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NARRATOR: Tonight,
on the season two premiere
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ofThe Curse
of Civil War Gold...
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We're looking for $140 million
worth of gold.
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-There's something.
-That's it.
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That's where we're gonna
see the gold.
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"It was there that
the Confederate treasury
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was divided."
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-No way.
There's a lot of missing gold.
-Yeah.
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We're on our tiptoes wondering
what you're about to tell us.
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KEVIN: We sonared this big,
rectangular object.
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KEVIN: Well, Alex,
we're really excited
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to have you on board,
get this project going.
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Yeah, for sure. You know,
I'm excited to be here.
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I'm looking forward to it,
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and it sounds like
we got a lot of stuff to do.
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We're gonna start
where we left off.
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NARRATOR:
In Muskegon, Michigan,
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treasure hunter Kevin Dykstra,
his brother Al,
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and Alex Lagina, the son of
Oak Island treasure hunter
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Marty Lagina, are on their way
to Kevin's workshop.
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KEVIN: To have your dad
and you work with us,
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it's extremely exciting
to have that kind of support.
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The thing that's cool about this
is finding out
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that the big treasure hunt
that you guys have been on
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leads to my backyard
here in Michigan, you know.
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It's-it's unbelievable
is really what it is.
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-It's just unbelievable.
-I think so.
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Yep.
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I'm through the wall.
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NARRATOR:
For the past eight years...
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It's here. I'm touching
the train right now.
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...Kevin Dykstra has been
investigating the facts...
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Let's take that map over here.
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...behind a shocking
deathbed confession.
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The ability to keep the secret
was monumental.
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NARRATOR: Told more than
100 years ago,
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a lighthouse keeper
claimed he saw a boxcar
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containing some
$140 million in gold
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being deliberately pushed off
a ferry into Lake Michigan.
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According to Kevin's research,
it was during the arrest of
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Confederate President
Jefferson Davis,
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on the morning
of May 10th, 1865,
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that Lieutenant Colonel
Benjamin Pritchard,
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of the 4th Michigan Cavalry,
acting under orders
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from Colonel Robert H.G. Minty,
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confiscated six wagons filled
with gold, silver and jewels.
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He then buried it nearby,
where it stayed for five years
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before being secretly brought
by railroad
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to Muskegon, Michigan,
and into the waiting hands
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of lumber tycoon-turned-banker
Charles Hackley.
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It is Kevin's belief that
Charles Hackley was secretly
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shipping the stolen gold
out west to Utah,
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where it would be laundered
through his various
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mining operations.
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And you think you can
prove all this?
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-Yes, I do.
-Keep going.
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NARRATOR: Last year, Kevin
convinced fellow Michigander
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Marty Lagina to invest in his
search for the sunken boxcar.
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[metal detector beeping]
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Okay, then we come into
this area here...
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NARRATOR: And it was during
a dive operation
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in Lake Michigan...
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KEVIN:
Boom. Right there.
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...that Kevin and his team
captured video evidence
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that may prove that
Kevin's years of research
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were not in vain.
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You see what's
in the corner there?
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We have what we believe is
a gold bar.
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MARTY: Are you saying that
you didn't notice that
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-until you saw the video?
-Till we saw the video.
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MARTY: Well, I can tell you
one thing you can't do.
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-You can't quit.
-No, we're not gonna quit.
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I looked at the video
they took when diving,
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and there is, by gosh,
something that looks like a bar.
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So, based on that, my son Alex
has joined the team this year.
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That footage, it is
extremely intriguing.
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We got to do more investigation.
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I totally agree.
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MARTY: Because I can't
be there with Kevin,
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Alex is going to be
my eyes and ears.
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ALEX:
So, this is the workshop?
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This is the workshop.
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KEVIN: The fact that Marty was
convinced enough
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with the research
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to send his son
to work with us,
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that speaks volumes to me.
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Looking forward to
meeting everybody.
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Yeah, they're looking forward
to meeting you.
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KEVIN: I have children. I wouldn't just throw them into
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something that I didn't
fully believe in.
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-Hey, guys.
-Hey, there they are.
-Hey.
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Hi, guys.
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-Alex.
-I'm Alex. How are you?
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-Frederick Monroe.
-Very nice to meet you.
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There's such a huge need
in human beings, I think,
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to want to believe
fun stuff like this, you know.
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-I'm Brad Richards.
-Hey, Brad, nice to meet you.
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-Nice to meet you, too.
-Hey, Alex. Jeff.
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-Nice to meet you. Yeah.
-Hey, Jeff, nice to meet you.
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MARTY: I'm excited to see Kevin
and his team get back going...
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-Well, this is exciting.
-Yeah.
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...because if Kevin actually
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emerges from Lake Michigan
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even with a picture of a,
of a bar of gold
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stamped with
the Confederacy somehow,
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he will have changed our version
of conventional history.
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Where we left off last fall,
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the footage that we got--
or that Jeff got--
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was a godsend
to this whole project.
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-It is.
-Yeah.
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-Yeah.
-ALEX: Can we take a look again?
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Sure. I think
we got it right here.
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Okay, here we go.
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There it is right there.
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Just laying there,
waiting to be discovered.
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JEFF: What was so frustrating
about getting this footage
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when we did in the season,
was that it was so late,
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the weather just did not allow
us to go back and verify
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that that actually is
what it looks like.
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We need to be able to get back
down to that site again.
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Right. We have to see if that's
what you think it is.
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Yep.
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ALEX: It's quite clear
there's something there.
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Then you want to get eyes on it.
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And on that note,
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my dad managed to obtain
about a 40-foot boat.
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It's perfect for diving.
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Wow.
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-Nice.
-Wow.
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-Marty's really paying off.
-[laughter]
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-Seriously, we are so grateful.
-Absolutely.
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That's a really big deal,
and I appreciate that, too.
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FRED:
Well, gold gets people excited.
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-It does.
-[laughter]
-Yes.
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So, to be honest,
I think the diving part of it
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-is significant.
-Yep.
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It isn't like you can just go
to that point on a map,
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go down, and it's there.
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-Right.
-You can get
to that general area,
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but with the shifting sands
at the bottom of the lake,
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that-that could be
totally buried.
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It could look totally different.
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Now, one thing we got
to really think about is
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the legalities of what
we're doing here are huge.
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The state of Michigan says
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we can take photographs, and
lightly hand fanning is fine,
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as long as we don't disturb
and move any artifacts.
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And they did say
that if we use a probe,
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we can probe gently down
into the sand
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and see if we hit something.
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-Mm-hmm.
-But we're gonna step
into some troubled waters
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if we go too far, if we try
to touch it or move it.
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ALEX: Out on Oak Island,
it's been our approach
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that, working with
regulations especially,
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having somebody
who has the experience
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lends some credibility
to the state.
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So I have been able
to arrange for Dr. Mark Holley,
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who's, uh, Northwestern
Michigan College--
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he's an underwater
archaeologist-- to join us.
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-Oh.
-Mm.
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-That's good.
-Yeah.
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ALEX:
So, he can bring a sonar,
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various other
remote sensing equipment.
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So we've got tools, and we've
got a place to dive from.
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Perfect.
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There's more than just
the footage, though.
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You know, another reason
that I'm interested,
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another reason that we're
interested, is all the research
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-that led you to this point.
-Sure.
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What's the agenda this year
in terms of that?
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KEVIN:
Well, people are approaching us,
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reaching out to us.
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You've had some people
reach out to you
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with some pretty
interesting things.
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Yeah.
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So, the game plan is
we're gonna split up.
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Brad and Jeff are gonna head out
and follow some of those leads
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-that people have
approached us with.
-Great.
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Being a history teacher,
the treasure for me
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is where this story originated,
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and I'm just really excited
to chase down other leads
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about where
the Confederate gold went,
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because there's more stories
about Civil War gold
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than just the part
at the bottom of Lake Michigan.
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-Really?
-So, yep, that's where the
research is heading right now,
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and I believe that
there's a lot more out there.
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-Keep following the money trail.
-[laughter]
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So I think we all kind of have
our marching orders
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-on what we need to do here.
-Yep.
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You ready to get in the water?
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-Mm-hmm.
-So am I.
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Let's get out there.
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Get that dive boat
over top of that gold.
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We'll-we'll get diving,
we'll see what's down there,
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and then see if we can find it.
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-Agreed.
-JEFF: Yeah, I agree.
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There's nothing
like treasure hunting.
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-[chuckles]
-I like this guy.
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[laughter]
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NARRATOR: One day after
their exciting meeting
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with Alex Lagina,
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Kevin Dykstra
and his brother Al
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arrive at the harbor
in Frankfort.
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-Gentlemen.
-MARK: Hey.
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NARRATOR: Joining them
is Frederick J. Monroe...
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-Good to meet you, sir.
-Kevin Dykstra.
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...as well as
underwater archaeologist
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Dr. Mark Holley.
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-Let's load up.
-Let's get this underway.
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NARRATOR:
In addition to teaching at
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Northwestern Michigan College,
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Dr. Mark Holley
has spent over 20 years
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studying and exploring
the Great Lakes.
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In 2007, he made headlines
after helping to discover
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a mysterious rock formation
some 40 feet deep
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in Lake Michigan's
Grand Traverse Bay.
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Whoa!
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FRED:
This is how it's done.
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KEVIN:
This is a big boat.
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This is nice.
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AL:
This will work.
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KEVIN:
To get this project underway
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and start diving
this year is huge.
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This is sweet.
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The new boat that
Marty and Alex provided
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is just perfect for what
we're doing right now.
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-Alex and Marty hooked us up
this time.
-Yes, they did.
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Look at the dive platform.
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KEVIN: The dive platform is
a lot easier to dive off from.
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This boat is the cat's meow.
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Oh, look at this.
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Wow, this is nice.
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AL:
Oh, man. Two bedrooms.
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KEVIN: Air-conditioned,
bathroom, kitchen.
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AL:
Everything.
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KEVIN:
Boy, those guys hooked us up.
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So we'll thank them by
putting gold in Marty's hands.
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-[laughs]: Yeah.
-How's that?
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That-That'd be a good thank you.
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We're as prepared
as we can possibly be
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for-for getting back
into the water.
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-We good to go?
-We are good.
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-All right.
-All set?
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-Yeah, we're all set.
-Okay.
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KEVIN:
All right, here we go.
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There's no going back.
We're only going forward.
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We know that gold is
down there, and we can't wait
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to get back down there
to see it.
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FRED: Let's follow
the money trail, gentlemen.
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[laughter]
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-AL: Let the games begin.
-KEVIN: Let the games begin.
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NARRATOR: Near the coast
of Frankfurt, Michigan,
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Kevin Dykstra, along with
members of his team
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and underwater archaeologist
Dr. Mark Holley,
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are searching the waters
of Lake Michigan
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for what they believe
to be the remains
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of a 19th century boxcar
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and more than $100 million worth of lost Confederate gold.
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KEVIN: You know,
we burned a lot of air up
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trying to locate this site.
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We've done a good job,
but it's taken longer
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-than it should have.
-Uh, yeah.
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MARK: You're gonna burn
a lot more air
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when you're working
in the water.
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So, here's what I think
you should do.
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I think we should go out
with a side-scan sonar sweep,
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GPS position exactly
where that target is,
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and then we have an ROV
we can put down on the site
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and film exactly
what's down there.
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-You've got an ROV?
-Yep.
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NARRATOR: An ROV,
or remotely operated vehicle,
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is a remote-controlled device,
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usually connected by
means of a cable,
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used for scanning or mapping
underwater areas.
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What we'll do is
we'll film everything
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that's down there
so we can put the divers
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exactly on the spot
that you think
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-you're going down on.
-I like that idea.
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We burned up so much air trying
to find it the last time.
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-It's much, much safer.
-Yeah.
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-I mean, we're looking for
$140 million worth of gold.
-Yeah.
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And if we could stay down there
an extra five minutes,
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-that could be huge.
-Oh, that's everything.
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NARRATOR: Last year,
Kevin, Al and the team
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located what they believed
to be a debris field.
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Using specialized
metal detectors,
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they obtained readings
which indicated
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the presence of precious metal
buried beneath layers
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of sand and algae.
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After checking their footage,
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they noticed something
strange and rectangular,
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something which looked
exactly like a bar of gold.
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We could be just
one or two dives away
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from seeing gold on the bottom
of Lake Michigan.
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We can't wait to get back
down there and confirm it.
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NARRATOR: With thick fog
blanketing the calm waters
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of Lake Michigan,
Dr. Mark Holley begins running
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side-scan sonar
to once again locate
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the underwater debris field.
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KEVIN: We're gonna be coming up
to it in a few hundred feet.
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-Is that it?
-That's not it.
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-There's a bunch
of debris around.
-Okay.
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KEVIN: It's not as easy as just
hitting a pinpoint,
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dropping an anchor
and going down to the site.
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It's very difficult
to get to the location
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and get back to the site
that's so far below you.
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NARRATOR: Although
Kevin Dykstra is relying
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on the same GPS coordinates
he obtained
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in the area last year,
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the conditions of
the lake bottom have changed
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due to strong currents
and increased algae growth.
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Just keep going
the way we're going.
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It should start
showing up here anytime.
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Well, there's something.
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AL: I know.
I was just looking at that.
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Couple big boulders.
That's us rocking.
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-KEVIN: Yeah, yeah.
-Mm-hmm.
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Oh, we got
a big debris field there.
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KEVIN: That's something; there's
a bunch of debris around.
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MARK:
Okay.
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NARRATOR:
A debris field?
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Could the team have once again
located the site
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where a possible fortune
in lost Civil War gold
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has laid hidden
for more than a century?
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KEVIN:
When we get back in the water,
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I'm gonna see
some familiar sites.
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When I see those sites
from last fall,
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I know that that gold
is right there.
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-There it is, right there.
Look at that.
-That's it?
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-That's it right there.
-You think that's it?
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-AL: That's a 90-degree angle
right there.
-MARK: Yeah.
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-That's the boxcar, right there.
-Okay.
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Oh, that's the car?
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KEVIN: But do you see
the size of that thing?
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MARK:
Yeah.
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NARRATOR:
A possible boxcar?
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Could it be the same one
that Kevin thought he saw
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during his search
in this area last year?
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Look at this stuff showing up.
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-Wow.
-Look at that.
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-Shoot, nice.
-[laughs]: Oh, my gosh.
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That is not natural.
That is man-made.
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There's no doubt about it.
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That to me looks like a boxcar.
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This is the perfect shot of it.
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You see the shadows
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-on the north side of it?
-MARK: Yep.
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-That give you an idea?
-Yep.
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And that's a large--
Look at how long that is.
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MARK:
Oh, yeah.
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NARRATOR: Could Kevin have found
the exact same location
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where he and his partners
photographed what they believe
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might have been
one of the missing bars
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of Confederate gold?
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-Okay. Let's mark it.
-Right there.
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-This is our reference point.
-MARK: Okay.
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Right there is where
we want to be.
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And then that point,
if we drop the ROV down there,
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-that's where
we're gonna see the gold.
-Okay.
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That's the kind of thing
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that makes me really excited.
[chuckles]
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NARRATOR:
Before they attempt to dive
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into the frigid waters
of Lake Michigan,
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Dr. Mark Holley will deploy
a remotely-operated,
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high-definition camera.
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This will enable them to obtain
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a visual of
the mysterious object.
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KEVIN:
Once we put that mask on,
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we descend towards the bottom,
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we only have
a limited amount of time.
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And quite often, your time
is being used up searching.
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-Yeah, you're good?
-Okay.
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-How's that look?
-Thank you, guys.
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-Good?
-Yep.
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And let me grab it
right by the--
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-Right here. I got it. Yep.
-Yeah.
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-KEVIN: You good?
-Perfect. Got it.
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Ready?
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KEVIN:
Nice. All right.
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MARK:
Run it down to bottom.
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You're going straight down,
so you're doing good.
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KEVIN: I'm gonna bump it
forward a little bit.
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Oh.
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MARK:
You see bottom yet?
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-Um, just barely.
-You're fine.
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KEVIN:
The last time we were out,
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the visibility was very bad.
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But this time,
the visibility is very good
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and we stand a very good chance
of finding that location again.
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I'm gonna bring her down
a bit more.
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-What do you got there?
-We're coming up
to debris right now.
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-AL: That's-that's that frame!
-Whoa.
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-KEVIN: That's it. That's it.
-That's that frame
that we've seen.
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-We're on it right now.
-So what's this?
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-KEVIN: That's what I think
is the boxcar.
-AL: That-- Yeah.
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Look at that.
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MARK: You've got crossbeams
going across it.
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KEVIN:
This is definitely man-made.
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AL:
Absolutely, it is.
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KEVIN: You can see
the spacing on them.
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You can see what look like
rivets all along it.
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NARRATOR: Between the early 19th
to the mid 20th centuries,
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steel rivets
were the primary means
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of fastening
metal structures together
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in the railway industry,
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especially in
the construction of boxcars.
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All right, pull it up.
Let's get out the dive gear.
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We need to get
diving on this right now.
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-Yep.
-Okay, let's get in the water.
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-Excited.
-Let's grab our kit.
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KEVIN: We know that a boxcar
is approximately
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35 foot long and approximately
seven to eight feet wide.
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But we need to get down there
onto that target
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and see what
the exact size of that is
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to make sure that
it is either a boxcar
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or possibly something else.
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NARRATOR:
During the dive operation,
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Kevin and Mark will both
be equipped
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with high-definition cameras.
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Kevin's brother Al
will be operating
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an underwater metal detector
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capable of
discriminating between
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ferrous metals such as iron
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and non-ferrous metals
such as gold.
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Frederick J. Monroe,
a certified divemaster,
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will remain on the boat
with Captain Larry Ring,
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monitoring the divers'
oxygen levels
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and maintaining constant
radio communication with them.
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MARK:
Okay.
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You want some cold water
on your hair?
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[grunts]
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[panting]
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KEVIN:
Air's on?
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FRED:
Yes, air's on.
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00:18:35,375 --> 00:18:37,638
[sighs]
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NARRATOR:
Just as the team's
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dive operation
is getting underway,
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Kevin Dykstra's
brother Al indicates
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that something has gone
terribly wrong.
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KEVIN:
Are you okay?
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[coughing]
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Grab ahold.
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00:19:01,270 --> 00:19:02,619
Wait a minute.
Just grab ahold.
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00:19:02,663 --> 00:19:03,881
It's okay.
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00:19:05,927 --> 00:19:07,450
-[clears throat]
-[coughing]
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00:19:07,494 --> 00:19:08,886
Okay. You okay?
448
00:19:08,930 --> 00:19:10,323
-Yeah.
-Okay.
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00:19:10,366 --> 00:19:13,021
Yeah, you got too hot.
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I can tell that right now.
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KEVIN:
We're done.
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When Al was trying
to get into the water,
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he knew I was in the water
using up oxygen.
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So, with Al getting
into the water
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in such a hurry like he was,
he was overheating.
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I could tell he was sweating
really bad trying to get ready.
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How's your breathing?
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-It's-it's doing okay.
-Okay?
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Yeah.
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NARRATOR:
Among the many dangers
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that divers face, overheating is one of the most threatening.
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[groans]
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It can be caused
by a number of factors,
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such as thick wetsuits,
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which are designed
to keep divers warm
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while descending into deep,
frigidly cold waters.
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If worn too long out of water,
the suit can cause potentially
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deadly conditions,
such as heatstroke.
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MARK:
We got perfect conditions.
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We got plenty of time.
Let's go back, regroup,
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catch our breath,
and we'll try it again.
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AL:
Yeah. Sounds good.
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-Yeah?
-KEVIN: Yup. Let's go.
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KEVIN:
It's very disappointing.
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I know I'm right above
what I think is that boxcar,
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but I also know
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when we go to the boxcar,
we want it to be safe.
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We want it to be
under the right conditions.
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So, regroup, make it safe,
then we'll go down.
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We've waited eight years.
We may as well...
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I know.
You can wait another hour.
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AL:
Yup.
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NARRATOR:
While Kevin and the team
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wait to attempt another dive,
485
00:20:40,195 --> 00:20:44,373
some eight miles away,
in the town of Benzonia,
486
00:20:44,417 --> 00:20:46,462
team members Brad Richards
and Jeff Zehr
487
00:20:46,506 --> 00:20:50,597
arrive at the Benzie Area
Historical Museum.
488
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:51,946
-Well, here we are.
-Yeah.
489
00:20:51,989 --> 00:20:53,339
-This is
a cool-looking building.
-Yeah.
490
00:20:53,382 --> 00:20:55,297
It is home
to a large collection
491
00:20:55,341 --> 00:20:58,126
of nautical artifacts
and historical documents
492
00:20:58,169 --> 00:20:59,910
from Michigan's
northern region.
493
00:20:59,954 --> 00:21:01,651
BRAD:
You're gonna like Bob.
494
00:21:01,695 --> 00:21:03,349
-Super excited
about Civil War research.
-Yeah?
495
00:21:03,392 --> 00:21:05,699
-So, that's right up our alley.
-All right. Yeah.
496
00:21:05,742 --> 00:21:07,483
They have come here
to meet with someone
497
00:21:07,527 --> 00:21:09,659
who claims to have information
498
00:21:09,703 --> 00:21:12,358
that corroborates
Kevin Dykstra's theory
499
00:21:12,401 --> 00:21:15,012
about what occurred the morning of Jefferson Davis' arrest
500
00:21:15,056 --> 00:21:17,841
by Union soldiers in 1865.
501
00:21:17,885 --> 00:21:20,061
-Hey, Mr. Strawhorn.
-Hey there, Bob.
502
00:21:20,104 --> 00:21:21,715
-Yes, sir.
-In addition to being
503
00:21:21,758 --> 00:21:24,108
a Civil War historian,
Bob Strawhorn
504
00:21:24,152 --> 00:21:27,198
is the great-grandson
of a Confederate soldier.
505
00:21:27,242 --> 00:21:28,722
-Pleased to meet you.
-Well, I understand
506
00:21:28,765 --> 00:21:30,680
you've got a lot
to show us here today.
507
00:21:30,724 --> 00:21:34,336
Yeah, I do. And this is only
a small amount of what I've got.
508
00:21:34,380 --> 00:21:36,556
He has traveled some 450 miles
509
00:21:36,599 --> 00:21:38,775
from his home
in Ontario, Canada,
510
00:21:38,819 --> 00:21:40,995
in order to share
with Brad and Jeff
511
00:21:41,038 --> 00:21:44,694
what he believes to be
some important information.
512
00:21:44,738 --> 00:21:47,175
This collection of books
came down
513
00:21:47,218 --> 00:21:51,092
through a very prominent
Confederate family.
514
00:21:51,135 --> 00:21:53,877
Wound up being refugees
in London, Ontario.
515
00:21:53,921 --> 00:21:57,098
I don't know
their family history.
516
00:21:57,141 --> 00:21:59,622
Whoever sold the books
to the antique dealer
517
00:21:59,666 --> 00:22:02,712
that I got them from
wanted to remain anonymous.
518
00:22:02,756 --> 00:22:04,410
-Oh.
-Okay.
-Yeah.
519
00:22:04,453 --> 00:22:06,716
Well, what are all these books?
520
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,023
Well, they started in 1893,
521
00:22:09,066 --> 00:22:11,982
printing a magazine called
the Confederate Veteran.
522
00:22:12,026 --> 00:22:15,856
NARRATOR:
Published from 1893 to 1932,
523
00:22:15,899 --> 00:22:19,468
theConfederate Veteran
was a periodical composed
524
00:22:19,512 --> 00:22:22,123
of personal testimonies
and letters
525
00:22:22,166 --> 00:22:24,168
written by
former Confederate soldiers
526
00:22:24,212 --> 00:22:27,041
recounting the events
of the Civil War,
527
00:22:27,084 --> 00:22:31,437
accounts that often differed
from the official war records.
528
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,136
So, Bob, did you find
anything in here about
529
00:22:35,179 --> 00:22:37,312
-the capture of Jefferson Davis?
-Mm-hmm.
530
00:22:37,356 --> 00:22:40,446
Is there anything you have that
might be in reference to gold?
531
00:22:40,489 --> 00:22:42,796
Here I have a letter...
532
00:22:42,839 --> 00:22:45,886
Bob has located
a firsthand account
533
00:22:45,929 --> 00:22:48,192
of Jefferson Davis' arrest
534
00:22:48,236 --> 00:22:51,718
written by Confederate veteran
Captain Andrew Sea
535
00:22:51,761 --> 00:22:55,417
from the November 1913 issue.
536
00:22:55,461 --> 00:22:57,811
"General Dibrell's
537
00:22:57,854 --> 00:23:00,379
"command finally reached
Charlotte, North Carolina,
538
00:23:00,422 --> 00:23:04,339
"and was ordered to escort
President Davis and Cabinet.
539
00:23:04,383 --> 00:23:09,083
"We had with our command
Mr. Davis and his wife.
540
00:23:09,126 --> 00:23:13,130
"We also had the Confederate
treasury in nail kegs,
541
00:23:13,174 --> 00:23:15,394
-"ammunition boxes,
etcetera..."
-Yeah. Mm-hmm.
542
00:23:15,437 --> 00:23:18,353
"...hauled in wagons."
543
00:23:18,397 --> 00:23:19,789
This is awesome.
544
00:23:19,833 --> 00:23:21,225
This is a primary account
545
00:23:21,269 --> 00:23:23,402
from a soldier,
a Confederate soldier,
546
00:23:23,445 --> 00:23:25,012
-with gold and silver,
who was there.
-Who was there.
547
00:23:25,055 --> 00:23:26,143
Oh, yeah.
548
00:23:28,189 --> 00:23:30,583
NARRATOR:
For more than 150 years,
549
00:23:30,626 --> 00:23:33,455
historians have long denied
numerous claims
550
00:23:33,499 --> 00:23:35,979
that Jefferson Davis
was in possession
551
00:23:36,023 --> 00:23:38,895
of millions of dollars
in gold and silver
552
00:23:38,939 --> 00:23:42,116
when he was arrested in 1865.
553
00:23:42,159 --> 00:23:44,640
But does this firsthand account
554
00:23:44,684 --> 00:23:47,382
buried in the pages
of theConfederate Veteran
555
00:23:47,426 --> 00:23:50,733
undermine
this widely held assertion?
556
00:23:50,777 --> 00:23:53,432
I believe the evidence
that Bob Strawhorn gave us
557
00:23:53,475 --> 00:23:55,869
really verifies Kevin's theory.
558
00:23:55,912 --> 00:23:59,394
Here we have
corroborating evidence
559
00:23:59,438 --> 00:24:03,267
about gold and silver traveling with Jefferson Davis.
560
00:24:03,311 --> 00:24:06,227
Well, and even when Kevin
first started telling us
561
00:24:06,270 --> 00:24:08,621
the story in the beginning,
he talked about kegs
562
00:24:08,664 --> 00:24:12,973
and ammo boxes being used
in order to-to transport this.
563
00:24:13,016 --> 00:24:15,845
Yeah, I mean, primary document
564
00:24:15,889 --> 00:24:18,326
-showing gold and silver...
-Mm.
565
00:24:18,369 --> 00:24:20,154
...in powder kegs
and ammo boxes.
566
00:24:20,197 --> 00:24:21,808
-Doesn't get any better
than that.
-Hang on.
567
00:24:21,851 --> 00:24:23,287
There's one more thing.
568
00:24:23,331 --> 00:24:26,073
What's that?
569
00:24:26,116 --> 00:24:29,119
Here I have a letter
written in by
570
00:24:29,163 --> 00:24:32,949
a John T. Moore
from Washington, D.C.,
571
00:24:32,993 --> 00:24:36,953
and he's telling about
his experiences in the war.
572
00:24:36,997 --> 00:24:40,653
"They returned with
President Davis to Charlotte.
573
00:24:40,696 --> 00:24:44,483
"The next day... some member
of the Cabinet told us
574
00:24:44,526 --> 00:24:48,487
"we could all consider ourselves honorably discharged,
575
00:24:48,530 --> 00:24:51,533
"but if any of us wished
to accompany President Davis
576
00:24:51,577 --> 00:24:54,884
"to Mexico we could do so.
577
00:24:54,928 --> 00:24:57,452
"So I fell in line
to seek refuge in Mexico.
578
00:24:57,496 --> 00:25:00,281
"The next day we crossed
the Savannah River,
579
00:25:00,324 --> 00:25:03,023
"arriving at Washington,
Georgia.
580
00:25:03,066 --> 00:25:05,242
"It was there that
the Confederate treasury
581
00:25:05,286 --> 00:25:06,896
was divided."
582
00:25:06,940 --> 00:25:09,682
-Wow.
-Oh, yeah.
583
00:25:09,725 --> 00:25:11,422
[Brad laughs]
584
00:25:11,466 --> 00:25:13,555
NARRATOR:
For Brad Richards,
585
00:25:13,599 --> 00:25:14,600
this firsthand account
586
00:25:14,643 --> 00:25:15,818
from Confederate veteran
587
00:25:15,862 --> 00:25:17,690
John T. Moore
588
00:25:17,733 --> 00:25:19,039
is hugely significant.
589
00:25:19,082 --> 00:25:21,171
Not only does it validate
590
00:25:21,215 --> 00:25:23,217
Kevin's theory
that Jefferson Davis
591
00:25:23,260 --> 00:25:26,394
was fleeing with gold
from the Confederate treasury,
592
00:25:26,437 --> 00:25:30,137
but also that
Davis' intended destination
593
00:25:30,180 --> 00:25:32,052
was very likely Mexico,
594
00:25:32,095 --> 00:25:34,881
further proof
that Davis was planning to use
595
00:25:34,924 --> 00:25:37,361
what remained of the treasury
to set up
596
00:25:37,405 --> 00:25:40,277
a new slave-based nation
under the leadership
597
00:25:40,321 --> 00:25:42,192
of members of the KGC,
598
00:25:42,236 --> 00:25:45,456
or the Knights
of the Golden Circle.
599
00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:47,633
-Can I interrupt you
for one quick second?
-Mm.
600
00:25:47,676 --> 00:25:48,982
Mm-hmm.
601
00:25:49,025 --> 00:25:50,200
So, those six wagons
that were Davis,
602
00:25:50,244 --> 00:25:51,680
that wasn't the only bit
of gold.
603
00:25:51,724 --> 00:25:53,334
That's correct.
604
00:25:53,377 --> 00:25:55,031
-[laughs]
-Well.
605
00:25:55,075 --> 00:25:56,772
Mm-hmm.
606
00:26:00,384 --> 00:26:02,735
BOB: "It was there
that the Confederate treasury
607
00:26:02,778 --> 00:26:04,301
was divided."
608
00:26:04,345 --> 00:26:07,043
NARRATOR:
In Benzonia, Michigan,
609
00:26:07,087 --> 00:26:09,480
Civil War historian
Bob Strawhorn
610
00:26:09,524 --> 00:26:11,308
has just revealed
a stunning letter
611
00:26:11,352 --> 00:26:14,877
to Brad Richards and Jeff Zehr, a letter
612
00:26:14,921 --> 00:26:18,620
containing eyewitness testimony from a Confederate soldier
613
00:26:18,664 --> 00:26:21,667
which claimed that,
at the end of the Civil War,
614
00:26:21,710 --> 00:26:23,930
the Southern treasury
was not only much larger
615
00:26:23,973 --> 00:26:25,932
than previously reported
616
00:26:25,975 --> 00:26:29,283
but, in addition to the gold
taken by Jefferson Davis,
617
00:26:29,326 --> 00:26:33,853
another large portion of it had been taken by someone else.
618
00:26:33,896 --> 00:26:36,507
"After the division
619
00:26:36,551 --> 00:26:39,510
"a lieutenant was ordered
to select five men
620
00:26:39,554 --> 00:26:41,948
"and take three wagons
loaded with bullion
621
00:26:41,991 --> 00:26:45,429
and deliver it to the Georgia state authorities."
622
00:26:45,473 --> 00:26:46,648
-Oh, my gosh!
-[chuckles]
623
00:26:46,692 --> 00:26:48,868
BRAD:
Primary document
624
00:26:48,911 --> 00:26:50,957
showing gold and silver
625
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,741
being moved at this time.
626
00:26:52,785 --> 00:26:54,221
Oh, yeah.
627
00:26:54,264 --> 00:26:56,963
Now, what happened
to the bullion?
628
00:26:57,006 --> 00:26:58,529
To all that gold.
629
00:26:58,573 --> 00:27:00,096
Yeah.
630
00:27:00,140 --> 00:27:02,142
-Mm-hmm.
-BRAD: I can believe
631
00:27:02,185 --> 00:27:04,840
that there are
so many different caches of gold
632
00:27:04,884 --> 00:27:06,886
moving about the country
at this time
633
00:27:06,929 --> 00:27:08,757
that was not recorded
in the history books.
634
00:27:08,801 --> 00:27:10,890
So I think that
Kevin's original theory
635
00:27:10,933 --> 00:27:12,805
is being validated
on a grand scale.
636
00:27:12,848 --> 00:27:14,154
But I also think
637
00:27:14,197 --> 00:27:15,721
this story is exploding
638
00:27:15,764 --> 00:27:17,723
way past the original story.
639
00:27:17,766 --> 00:27:19,594
This is a compelling piece
of evidence
640
00:27:19,638 --> 00:27:21,204
that the "official document"
that's quoted
641
00:27:21,248 --> 00:27:24,120
-by the college professors...
-Mm-hmm.
642
00:27:24,164 --> 00:27:26,253
-...and the historians...
-Mm-hmm. Yeah, right.
643
00:27:27,558 --> 00:27:28,821
...wasn't what happened.
644
00:27:28,864 --> 00:27:30,736
-Mm-mm.
-Well done, Bob.
645
00:27:30,779 --> 00:27:33,260
BRAD:
The three wagons going west,
646
00:27:33,303 --> 00:27:35,262
in addition to the six that we
647
00:27:35,305 --> 00:27:37,220
already knew about,
it just makes you wonder:
648
00:27:37,264 --> 00:27:39,048
where did all
this gold and silver go?
649
00:27:39,092 --> 00:27:41,268
There was a lot more
gold and silver out there
650
00:27:41,311 --> 00:27:42,748
than just these
original six wagons
651
00:27:42,791 --> 00:27:44,706
that were traveling
with Jefferson Davis.
652
00:27:44,750 --> 00:27:46,665
Well, Bob, thank you so much
for meeting with us.
653
00:27:46,708 --> 00:27:47,927
Thank you, sir.
654
00:27:47,970 --> 00:27:49,450
Yeah, much appreciated.
655
00:27:49,493 --> 00:27:51,539
BOB:
My pleasure.
656
00:27:54,629 --> 00:27:57,458
NARRATOR: Back on the waters
of Lake Michigan,
657
00:27:57,501 --> 00:27:59,765
just outside of Frankfort,
658
00:27:59,808 --> 00:28:02,855
Kevin Dykstra, his brother Al
659
00:28:02,898 --> 00:28:06,293
and underwater archaeologist
Dr. Mark Holley are now ready
660
00:28:06,336 --> 00:28:09,296
to once again attempt a dive,
in an effort to confirm
661
00:28:09,339 --> 00:28:12,647
if they have found
the legendary boxcar
662
00:28:12,691 --> 00:28:15,563
reported to contain
some $140 million
663
00:28:15,606 --> 00:28:17,696
in lost Civil War gold.
664
00:28:17,739 --> 00:28:19,088
Clear.
665
00:28:25,268 --> 00:28:27,227
KEVIN [over radio]:
All right, I'm descending.
666
00:28:29,882 --> 00:28:31,927
AL:
The visibility is great.
667
00:28:31,971 --> 00:28:33,799
Typically, the visibility
in Lake Michigan, I'd say,
668
00:28:33,842 --> 00:28:36,932
on average is, you know, if
you get 25 feet, you're lucky.
669
00:28:36,976 --> 00:28:39,152
If you get 75 feet,
670
00:28:39,195 --> 00:28:40,719
that never happens.
671
00:28:40,762 --> 00:28:44,026
So to have 75-foot visibility
672
00:28:44,070 --> 00:28:46,507
cuts our search time
down to nothing.
673
00:28:46,550 --> 00:28:48,683
Everything looks calm. Is it?
674
00:28:48,727 --> 00:28:50,641
AL:
Not bad.
675
00:28:50,685 --> 00:28:52,905
NARRATOR: Within minutes
of entering the water,
676
00:28:52,948 --> 00:28:55,646
Kevin, Al and Mark see
the structure.
677
00:29:06,005 --> 00:29:09,704
KEVIN: What I'm looking at
is something unlike
678
00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:11,532
any other shipwrecks
that we've found.
679
00:29:11,575 --> 00:29:13,708
It does not look like
a shipwreck at all.
680
00:29:13,752 --> 00:29:16,580
Doesn't look like
any portion of a ship.
681
00:29:16,624 --> 00:29:19,453
Heavy wooden timbers
that I would expect to see
682
00:29:19,496 --> 00:29:21,803
in a railcar, very prevalent.
683
00:29:31,770 --> 00:29:35,382
KEVIN: I would not expect to see
a full standing boxcar
684
00:29:35,425 --> 00:29:38,254
at the bottom of the lake
after this many years.
685
00:29:38,298 --> 00:29:41,301
I would expect to see
basically what we see.
686
00:29:41,344 --> 00:29:42,911
The walls are gone.
687
00:29:42,955 --> 00:29:44,913
The roof is gone.
688
00:29:44,957 --> 00:29:47,742
What we're seeing down here
is what I believe to be
689
00:29:47,786 --> 00:29:49,831
the floor structure
of the boxcar.
690
00:30:16,379 --> 00:30:18,642
NARRATOR: Could the structure
that Kevin and the team
691
00:30:18,686 --> 00:30:21,863
have found be the remains
of the elusive boxcar?
692
00:30:33,788 --> 00:30:36,443
KEVIN: I wanted to just get down to that object
693
00:30:36,486 --> 00:30:39,054
and clear all that stuff away
and see what this is.
694
00:30:39,098 --> 00:30:41,883
But I have Dr. Holley with me,
and he cautioned me.
695
00:30:41,927 --> 00:30:47,019
You can't touch anything.
696
00:30:47,062 --> 00:30:48,803
KEVIN:
So I have Al
697
00:30:48,847 --> 00:30:50,370
with the metal detector,
698
00:30:50,413 --> 00:30:53,068
and he's going
alongside of this object.
699
00:30:53,112 --> 00:30:56,332
My thoughts are: If that's
the floor of the boxcar,
700
00:30:56,376 --> 00:30:58,726
whatever containers
held the gold
701
00:30:58,769 --> 00:31:02,295
have probably long been smashed or long rotted away.
702
00:31:02,338 --> 00:31:04,558
So the gold
could be laying anywhere,
703
00:31:04,601 --> 00:31:06,995
but there's a high likelihood
that it's buried
704
00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:09,389
in the sand, and we
might not be able to see it.
705
00:31:11,347 --> 00:31:13,045
[beeping]
706
00:31:15,612 --> 00:31:19,007
it.
707
00:31:19,051 --> 00:31:21,314
NARRATOR: ...Kevin Dykstra's
younger brother, Al,
708
00:31:21,357 --> 00:31:23,316
has just detected the presence
709
00:31:23,359 --> 00:31:25,753
of possible precious metal
beneath the lake bed
710
00:31:25,796 --> 00:31:29,365
next to an object that could be part of a boxcar
711
00:31:29,409 --> 00:31:33,239
believed to contain a fortune
in stolen Civil War gold.
712
00:31:39,549 --> 00:31:41,421
NARRATOR: Although the team
is not permitted
713
00:31:41,464 --> 00:31:43,249
to dig on the lake bottom,
714
00:31:43,292 --> 00:31:46,165
underwater archaeologist
Dr. Mark Holley
715
00:31:46,208 --> 00:31:49,298
is able to fan the sand away
in order to see
716
00:31:49,342 --> 00:31:51,474
if something of importance
might lie buried
717
00:31:51,518 --> 00:31:53,476
just beneath the surface.
718
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,957
Ferrous or nonferrous hit?
719
00:31:56,001 --> 00:32:00,701
It's making the metal detector
go nuts.
720
00:32:00,744 --> 00:32:02,181
AL:
A metal detector doesn't lie.
721
00:32:02,224 --> 00:32:03,791
I was getting
non-ferrous hits there,
722
00:32:03,834 --> 00:32:05,880
but whatever is there is deeper
723
00:32:05,924 --> 00:32:08,013
than what we can
get to by hand-fanning.
724
00:32:08,056 --> 00:32:10,580
That's where the frustration
lies for all of us.
725
00:32:10,624 --> 00:32:14,062
NARRATOR: Despite the
possibility of precious metals
726
00:32:14,106 --> 00:32:16,935
lying just beneath the surface
of the lake bottom,
727
00:32:16,978 --> 00:32:20,199
Kevin and the team will need
more compelling evidence,
728
00:32:20,242 --> 00:32:23,115
like pictures or video,
in order to apply
729
00:32:23,158 --> 00:32:27,206
for the permits necessary to legally dig down and confirm
730
00:32:27,249 --> 00:32:29,730
if they have actually made
an important discovery.
731
00:32:29,773 --> 00:32:32,298
KEVIN: So I'm trying
to hold the camera
732
00:32:32,341 --> 00:32:34,865
and get as much data as I can,
733
00:32:34,909 --> 00:32:37,651
but really, I'm looking
all around the outside
734
00:32:37,694 --> 00:32:39,870
just to see if I can see
a gold bar.
735
00:32:39,914 --> 00:32:42,003
Give me a pressure check.
736
00:32:42,047 --> 00:32:44,701
500 pounds or less,
it's time to come up.
737
00:32:48,270 --> 00:32:52,927
All right, guys,
I think this is our time.
738
00:32:52,971 --> 00:32:55,625
NARRATOR: With their
air supply running low,
739
00:32:55,669 --> 00:32:58,019
Kevin, Al and Mark
must now end
740
00:32:58,063 --> 00:33:00,065
their dive operation.
741
00:33:00,108 --> 00:33:01,762
KEVIN:
As we made our ascent back up,
742
00:33:01,805 --> 00:33:03,938
I wanted to somehow
talk to Alex and Marty
743
00:33:03,982 --> 00:33:05,766
from the bottom
of the lake and say,
744
00:33:05,809 --> 00:33:07,463
"You guys aren't gonna
believe what we found."
745
00:33:07,507 --> 00:33:09,770
NARRATOR: For Kevin Dykstra and his team,
746
00:33:09,813 --> 00:33:12,468
they may be
one major step closer
747
00:33:12,512 --> 00:33:15,254
to making a life-changing
discovery:
748
00:33:15,297 --> 00:33:17,821
a fortune in missing
Confederate gold.
749
00:33:19,867 --> 00:33:21,303
I think it's a boxcar.
750
00:33:21,347 --> 00:33:23,784
I do, too. I have no doubt
in my mind.
751
00:33:23,827 --> 00:33:25,133
Part of it, like it got
sheared in half.
752
00:33:25,177 --> 00:33:26,830
Absolutely.
753
00:33:26,874 --> 00:33:28,789
Those timbers were so big
and I seen the needle
754
00:33:28,832 --> 00:33:30,182
on your metal detector
going off.
755
00:33:30,225 --> 00:33:32,532
-It was going crazy.
-I know it.
756
00:33:32,575 --> 00:33:35,796
Those huge timbers, I think
the frame was just below it.
757
00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:37,754
Did you see the platform
underneath it?
758
00:33:37,798 --> 00:33:39,626
Yeah! Yeah, that's what I mean.
The frame was just under it.
759
00:33:39,669 --> 00:33:41,715
Yup.
760
00:33:41,758 --> 00:33:44,674
I think that boxcar had really
deteriorated over the years.
761
00:33:44,718 --> 00:33:47,895
So, the gold
could be laying anywhere,
762
00:33:47,938 --> 00:33:50,898
but there's a high likelihood
that it's buried in the sand.
763
00:33:50,941 --> 00:33:52,204
What'd you think?
764
00:33:52,247 --> 00:33:53,988
I've never seen
anything like that.
765
00:33:54,032 --> 00:33:55,598
I have no idea what it is.
766
00:33:55,642 --> 00:33:58,471
-Have you dove
on a boxcar before?
-No.
767
00:33:58,514 --> 00:34:00,081
Those were some mammoth timbers
down there, weren't they?
768
00:34:00,125 --> 00:34:01,561
Yeah.
769
00:34:01,604 --> 00:34:03,650
They were about
that thick, okay?
770
00:34:03,693 --> 00:34:05,130
-It's two layers of timbers...
-KEVIN: Yeah.
771
00:34:05,173 --> 00:34:06,827
-...across each other.
-AL: Plus the bottom.
772
00:34:06,870 --> 00:34:09,699
And then there's six big beams
that go across it.
773
00:34:09,743 --> 00:34:13,529
It measures 16 foot by 15 foot,
so it's almost a rectangle.
774
00:34:13,573 --> 00:34:16,445
KEVIN: I feel like we're leaving
no stone unturned
775
00:34:16,489 --> 00:34:19,318
when it comes
to trying to document,
776
00:34:19,361 --> 00:34:21,450
as best we can, what this is.
777
00:34:21,494 --> 00:34:25,019
Is it in fact a boxcar?
Could it be something else?
778
00:34:25,063 --> 00:34:27,282
With Doc Holley's measurements,
779
00:34:27,326 --> 00:34:29,415
we're gonna have
the best chance we have
780
00:34:29,458 --> 00:34:31,069
to figure out what this is.
781
00:34:32,592 --> 00:34:34,289
You guys see
any gold down there?
782
00:34:34,333 --> 00:34:37,423
You got a big hit on that
little round item there.
783
00:34:37,466 --> 00:34:39,338
I don't know,
I don't know what that is
784
00:34:39,381 --> 00:34:41,905
'cause it was-- there was
so many zebra mussels on it.
785
00:34:44,517 --> 00:34:46,823
If you guys are interested
in investigating that,
786
00:34:46,867 --> 00:34:49,391
rather than spending a lot
of diver time on the bottom
787
00:34:49,435 --> 00:34:51,915
measuring everything up
and drawing it, we can bring in
788
00:34:51,959 --> 00:34:53,874
the sector scan sonar,
789
00:34:53,917 --> 00:34:57,486
which will give us a really high
definition sonar picture of it
790
00:34:57,530 --> 00:34:59,836
and fully document that part
of your site for you.
791
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:01,708
-That sounds like a plan.
-Sounds good.
792
00:35:01,751 --> 00:35:04,406
NARRATOR:
Unlike more conventional
793
00:35:04,450 --> 00:35:08,149
side-scanning sonar,
a sector scanning sonar device
794
00:35:08,193 --> 00:35:10,151
can be rigged to a tripod
795
00:35:10,195 --> 00:35:12,414
and literally stand
on the lake bottom
796
00:35:12,458 --> 00:35:15,330
generating a three-dimensional
map of the environment
797
00:35:15,374 --> 00:35:17,637
and any near-surface
buried objects
798
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,118
not visible to the naked eye.
799
00:35:20,161 --> 00:35:23,773
Data from the device may help
Kevin and his team
800
00:35:23,817 --> 00:35:26,515
not only acquire a permit
to dig at this site,
801
00:35:26,559 --> 00:35:29,214
but also help them
locate the debris field
802
00:35:29,257 --> 00:35:31,694
where Kevin obtained
possible video evidence
803
00:35:31,738 --> 00:35:34,784
of a gold bar last year.
804
00:35:34,828 --> 00:35:37,570
As far as what we do next,
I think that sector scan
805
00:35:37,613 --> 00:35:39,441
is probably the best idea
that we have.
806
00:35:39,485 --> 00:35:40,834
I think we need
to meet back at my shop
807
00:35:40,877 --> 00:35:42,618
and go over all this stuff.
808
00:35:42,662 --> 00:35:44,316
-That sound like a plan?
-That sounds like a good plan.
809
00:35:44,359 --> 00:35:46,579
Yeah, it's a good one.
810
00:35:46,622 --> 00:35:48,972
KEVIN: I know Marty's gonna want
to know what we found here.
811
00:35:52,367 --> 00:35:54,978
[laptop ringing]
812
00:35:56,850 --> 00:35:58,025
NARRATOR:
The next day...
813
00:35:58,068 --> 00:35:59,200
-Hey, guys.
-Hello.
814
00:35:59,244 --> 00:36:00,506
How are you guys doing?
815
00:36:00,549 --> 00:36:02,203
NARRATOR:
...Kevin Dykstra and his team
816
00:36:02,247 --> 00:36:03,987
have gathered in the workshop
817
00:36:04,031 --> 00:36:07,382
to update Marty and Alex
Lagina, via video conference,
818
00:36:07,426 --> 00:36:09,602
on their potential
breakthrough discovery
819
00:36:09,645 --> 00:36:11,995
at the bottom of Lake Michigan.
820
00:36:12,039 --> 00:36:14,433
Well, we're eager.
We're on our tiptoes
821
00:36:14,476 --> 00:36:16,522
wondering what you're
about to tell us.
822
00:36:16,565 --> 00:36:18,306
Well, I don't hardly know
where to start.
823
00:36:18,350 --> 00:36:20,656
KEVIN: So, get this,
we're heading out to the site
824
00:36:20,700 --> 00:36:23,093
where we believe
that we found a gold bar,
825
00:36:23,137 --> 00:36:25,008
and as we're heading out there,
826
00:36:25,052 --> 00:36:28,969
we sonar this big rectangular
object on the sea bottom.
827
00:36:29,012 --> 00:36:32,451
We were able to put the ROV
in the water
828
00:36:32,494 --> 00:36:35,410
and this big massive frame
showed up.
829
00:36:35,454 --> 00:36:37,891
This thing was made to carry
a lot of weight.
830
00:36:37,934 --> 00:36:40,067
Is that what you sent me
a photo of, Kevin?
831
00:36:40,110 --> 00:36:41,460
This one here,
just to make sure?
832
00:36:41,503 --> 00:36:43,505
Yup, yup. That's it.
833
00:36:43,549 --> 00:36:46,334
Al got some real heavy hits
on the metal detector,
834
00:36:46,378 --> 00:36:49,642
um, showing that there was
significant metal
835
00:36:49,685 --> 00:36:51,774
on this object down there.
836
00:36:51,818 --> 00:36:53,298
This thing sticking up,
837
00:36:53,341 --> 00:36:55,735
isn't just a frame,
like a bed frame then,
838
00:36:55,778 --> 00:36:57,432
it goes down into the sand?
839
00:36:57,476 --> 00:37:00,043
KEVIN:
We believe it does, Marty,
840
00:37:00,087 --> 00:37:03,046
but according to Dr. Holley,
we couldn't move any sand,
841
00:37:03,090 --> 00:37:04,526
we couldn't do anything.
842
00:37:04,570 --> 00:37:07,355
How far from the bar we thought
was a gold bar that,
843
00:37:07,399 --> 00:37:10,010
you know, jangled us
in our chairs last year?
844
00:37:10,053 --> 00:37:12,708
How far away is this from that?
845
00:37:12,752 --> 00:37:15,058
We're talking just
a couple of hundred feet.
846
00:37:15,102 --> 00:37:17,844
In a lake that's as large
as Lake Michigan,
847
00:37:17,887 --> 00:37:20,455
a couple hundred feet
is, like, right next to it.
848
00:37:20,499 --> 00:37:22,805
Oh, I agree. A couple hundred
feet is spot on.
849
00:37:22,849 --> 00:37:24,764
I mean, you know, when it...
once it hit the water,
850
00:37:24,807 --> 00:37:26,244
it would kind of
have disintegrated,
851
00:37:26,287 --> 00:37:27,897
probably, over time.
852
00:37:27,941 --> 00:37:30,944
I think if that's a boxcar,
853
00:37:30,987 --> 00:37:32,946
then you've probably found
your boxcar.
854
00:37:32,989 --> 00:37:34,817
Yeah, I would agree.
855
00:37:36,341 --> 00:37:38,821
MARTY:
If there's one word
856
00:37:38,865 --> 00:37:40,736
that eventually
produces success,
857
00:37:40,780 --> 00:37:42,129
it's perseverance.
858
00:37:42,172 --> 00:37:43,913
That's what he needs to do
at this time,
859
00:37:43,957 --> 00:37:46,089
-and it won't be hard
for Kevin...
-This is great.
860
00:37:46,133 --> 00:37:48,527
...because he's got
that innate drive.
861
00:37:48,570 --> 00:37:50,833
If he pulls a gold brick off
of Lake Michigan
862
00:37:50,877 --> 00:37:53,140
with a Confederate stamp on it,
863
00:37:53,183 --> 00:37:55,795
he has already
rewritten history.
864
00:37:55,838 --> 00:37:58,319
You know, Marty, um,
a big part of this story
865
00:37:58,363 --> 00:38:00,539
has been the historical research
866
00:38:00,582 --> 00:38:02,149
to where this gold
in Lake Michigan
867
00:38:02,192 --> 00:38:04,107
-would have come from.
-Right.
868
00:38:04,151 --> 00:38:05,674
And so Jeff and I
were actually able to meet
869
00:38:05,718 --> 00:38:07,981
with an old Canadian guy
named Bob Strawhorn,
870
00:38:08,024 --> 00:38:10,723
and, believe it or not,
871
00:38:10,766 --> 00:38:14,117
we've got firsthand testimony
from Confederate soldiers.
872
00:38:14,161 --> 00:38:15,684
So let me pull these up.
873
00:38:18,078 --> 00:38:21,081
So, this first one here
is from a Confederate veteran
874
00:38:21,124 --> 00:38:22,822
that was traveling
with Jefferson Davis
875
00:38:22,865 --> 00:38:25,738
at Washington, Georgia.
876
00:38:25,781 --> 00:38:28,393
Three wagons head
a different direction,
877
00:38:28,436 --> 00:38:30,308
full of gold.
878
00:38:30,351 --> 00:38:33,833
It says,
"Five men took three wagons
879
00:38:33,876 --> 00:38:35,225
loaded with bullion."
880
00:38:35,269 --> 00:38:36,836
-Wow.
-BRAD: Off they went.
881
00:38:36,879 --> 00:38:38,577
Where'd they go?
882
00:38:38,620 --> 00:38:40,970
It wasn't just the six wagons
full of the gold
883
00:38:41,014 --> 00:38:43,103
that was traveling
with Jefferson Davis.
884
00:38:43,146 --> 00:38:44,931
There was multiple caches
of gold
885
00:38:44,974 --> 00:38:47,629
being moved quickly away
from the northern troops.
886
00:38:47,673 --> 00:38:49,675
-AL: And all
in different directions?
-BRAD: Yeah.
887
00:38:49,718 --> 00:38:51,416
Going in different directions.
888
00:38:51,459 --> 00:38:52,765
You guys are all starting
to sound like my brother.
889
00:38:52,808 --> 00:38:55,115
[laughter]
890
00:38:55,158 --> 00:38:57,857
KEVIN: I think
Jefferson Davis was carrying
891
00:38:57,900 --> 00:39:00,076
a portion of the gold,
but I think other people
892
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,991
were carrying gold, as well.
893
00:39:02,035 --> 00:39:04,211
But they split it off,
and I think they did that
894
00:39:04,254 --> 00:39:07,432
to kind of hedge their chances
of success
895
00:39:07,475 --> 00:39:09,259
with getting this gold further
to the South.
896
00:39:09,303 --> 00:39:11,871
Are you gonna be able to come up
897
00:39:11,914 --> 00:39:13,481
-on this next dive next week?
-ALEX: I want to be there.
898
00:39:13,525 --> 00:39:15,657
I'd like him to be there.
I'dlike to be there,
899
00:39:15,701 --> 00:39:17,093
but I don't think
I'm gonna be able to.
900
00:39:17,137 --> 00:39:19,574
In the meantime, get out there
901
00:39:19,618 --> 00:39:20,880
and verify it, go on that dive,
902
00:39:20,923 --> 00:39:22,751
and let's see what happens.
903
00:39:22,795 --> 00:39:25,014
Hopefully we get enough data
to go to the state of Michigan
904
00:39:25,058 --> 00:39:26,451
and ask for a salvage permit.
905
00:39:26,494 --> 00:39:29,497
Well, we'll work
towards that happening.
906
00:39:29,541 --> 00:39:31,412
-Good deal.
-KEVIN: All right. Thanks, guys.
-See you guys soon.
907
00:39:31,456 --> 00:39:33,153
MARTY:
Bye.
908
00:39:33,196 --> 00:39:34,763
Let's get back at it.
909
00:39:34,807 --> 00:39:36,374
-All right.
-Yeah. Let's go.
910
00:39:36,417 --> 00:39:39,289
NARRATOR: For Kevin Dykstra and his team,
911
00:39:39,333 --> 00:39:41,291
the potential discovery
912
00:39:41,335 --> 00:39:44,164
of a boxcar
is not just exciting,
913
00:39:44,207 --> 00:39:46,166
but if they can find
what they believe
914
00:39:46,209 --> 00:39:49,822
to be its lost cargo
of stolen Civil War gold,
915
00:39:49,865 --> 00:39:52,085
they may soon be
on the threshold
916
00:39:52,128 --> 00:39:54,827
of rewriting American history.
917
00:39:54,870 --> 00:39:57,307
But as their search widens
918
00:39:57,351 --> 00:39:59,309
to include more gold
919
00:39:59,353 --> 00:40:00,920
than they ever
thought possible,
920
00:40:00,963 --> 00:40:04,010
what else will they discover?
921
00:40:04,053 --> 00:40:08,362
Perhaps evidence
of an even bigger conspiracy?
922
00:40:08,406 --> 00:40:10,582
One that involved
923
00:40:10,625 --> 00:40:12,932
not only the theft
of millions in gold,
924
00:40:12,975 --> 00:40:16,370
but the creation
of a new government
925
00:40:16,414 --> 00:40:20,287
and a bloody plot
that would claim the life
926
00:40:20,330 --> 00:40:23,333
of a beloved
American president?
927
00:40:27,294 --> 00:40:30,645
This season on
The Curse of Civil War Gold...
928
00:40:30,689 --> 00:40:32,560
KEVIN:
This thing is a lot bigger
929
00:40:32,604 --> 00:40:34,170
-than what I
originally thought.
-What is that?
930
00:40:34,214 --> 00:40:36,129
KEVIN:
We've just begun the search.
931
00:40:36,172 --> 00:40:37,609
-We found something.
-KEVIN: There was gold
932
00:40:37,652 --> 00:40:39,480
in many different places
during the time
933
00:40:39,524 --> 00:40:40,873
of Jefferson Davis's capture.
934
00:40:40,916 --> 00:40:43,571
-Look at all this.
-Wow, look at them all.
935
00:40:43,615 --> 00:40:45,355
Wow. That is gold.
936
00:40:45,399 --> 00:40:48,010
So, just how big
is this conspiracy?
937
00:40:48,054 --> 00:40:49,751
MAN: The Knights
of the Golden Circle
938
00:40:49,795 --> 00:40:52,406
was the most powerful,
subversive organization ever.
939
00:40:52,450 --> 00:40:55,017
They wanted to take the power
from New York.
940
00:40:55,061 --> 00:40:56,889
MAN 2: This was orchestrated
much higher up.
941
00:40:56,932 --> 00:40:59,326
John Wilkes Booth was not killed
at the barn.
942
00:40:59,369 --> 00:41:01,720
He was killed by Jesse James.
943
00:41:01,763 --> 00:41:04,331
-Whoa.
-Oh, wow.
-KEVIN: That's a compass.
944
00:41:04,374 --> 00:41:06,072
-The all-seeing eye.
-That could be a vault
down there.
945
00:41:06,115 --> 00:41:08,509
MAN: They gave me a key
to the vault,
946
00:41:08,553 --> 00:41:09,684
and that's when
they pulled the bags up.
947
00:41:09,728 --> 00:41:11,773
-Bags of what?
-Gold.
948
00:41:11,817 --> 00:41:13,383
There's treasure underneath the Pritchard house.
949
00:41:13,427 --> 00:41:15,037
-That's it.
-[laughs] It's a coin!
950
00:41:15,081 --> 00:41:16,299
KEVIN:
We could be an inch away
951
00:41:16,343 --> 00:41:18,476
from millions of dollars' worth of gold.
952
00:41:20,652 --> 00:41:22,871
-No way!
-Unbelievable!
953
00:41:22,915 --> 00:41:24,307
That actually knocks
my socks off.
954
00:41:24,351 --> 00:41:26,745
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