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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,400 In walks a man in his 70s, in clear agony, 4 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,480 something wrong with his arm. 5 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,640 He was in excruciating pain. 6 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,280 He was literally screaming out. 7 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,280 And there's blisters, there's areas that look like they're dying. 8 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,000 It was a race against time, trying to find out what had been injected. 9 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,080 They didn't know whether he was gonna live or die. 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,480 The infection is causing a state of sepsis. 11 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,760 He'd had a botched COVID jab. 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,320 RAPID BEEPING 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:46,600 LONG BEEP 14 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,680 SIREN WAILS 15 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,520 Just looked like a stranger attack. Premises were gonna get searched. 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,280 It was crazy, full of emergency services. 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,720 The police didn't really know what they were dealing with. 18 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,560 They find a cache of books and documents 19 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,760 about poisons and chemicals and murder. 20 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,920 He used the identity of a community nurse. 21 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,400 He's vanished. There's no sign of him. 22 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,040 What's the motive? 23 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:17,560 Who is this man? 24 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,960 Ingleby Barwick, it's a lovely place to live. 25 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,360 We live just on the golf course, so we've got nice views. 26 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,120 When I first moved here, it was a new build, 27 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,480 and there was a vicar first living next door. 28 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:44,720 We've got nice neighbours. 29 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,400 We have ex-footballers, we've doctors. 30 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,120 This is an area where wealthy, affluent, 31 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,440 middle-class professionals live. 32 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,720 It's very respectable. It's got a neighbourhood watch. 33 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,000 My husband was working away at the time, 34 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,480 and the next day, he rang me and asked why our house was on news. 35 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:10,280 So, obviously, it was a big thing, everyone was talking about it. 36 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:19,000 Murderers aren't always people that you think are gonna have that look. 37 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,240 You see it on TV and films, 38 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,160 and they're always portrayed as a monster. 39 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,480 But it's actually the people that you know, 40 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,720 and people that you're supposed to trust. 41 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,960 In Ingleby Barwick, neighbours know each other. 42 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,480 But little did they know 43 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,240 that behind the garage door of one of these houses, 44 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,120 there is an individual who's plotting to murder. 45 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,440 In November 2023, a man called Patrick O'Hara 46 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,480 received a letter from the NHS, telling him that he'd been selected 47 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,200 for a home visit by a community nurse, 48 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,040 and a COVID booster jab. 49 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:18,040 Patrick then received a second letter in January of 2024, 50 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,640 and that again reiterated the details of the appointment 51 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,680 for the injection to be delivered, 52 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,560 and had a QR code that took Patrick to a website 53 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,960 with a medical questionnaire that he could complete 54 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,640 ahead of the appointment. 55 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:37,280 And he was happy to have that home visit. 56 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:38,400 PHONE VIBRATES 57 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:39,600 And on Sunday, 58 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,680 Patrick receives a text message from the community nurse, 59 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,960 telling him that he'll be getting his home visit the next day. 60 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,640 The nurse knocked at the door, Patrick opened the door, 61 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,840 saw the nurse, saw it was someone in a mask, 62 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,400 had tinted spectacles, a hat, 63 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,000 a long coat, and gloves on. 64 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:16,480 The community nurse introduces himself as Raj Patel, 65 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,720 takes some blood samples. 66 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,960 And at that point, Patrick's partner, Jenny, 67 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,120 comes into the room, and asks the community nurse 68 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,160 if he wouldn't mind taking her blood pressure, which he does. 69 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,640 Patrick couldn't see the face of Raj Patel, 70 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:40,080 but his ID was a man with a clipped, neat moustache, 71 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,560 a beard, glasses, and a full head of hair. 72 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:48,320 The nurse was speaking in a broken English, Asian accent. 73 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,640 And then the community nurse tells Patrick 74 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,840 that he's eligible for his COVID booster jab, 75 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:00,800 and so offers his arm and gets the injection. 76 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,480 The jab was incredibly painful. Patrick yelled in pain. 77 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,080 He yelled, "Bloody hell!" 78 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,960 The nurse assured him this sort of thing happened. 79 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,400 But Patrick's starting to get a bit worried, 80 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,440 cos his arm is very sore. 81 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,360 He's a little bit worried about what's going on, 82 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:28,280 so he leaves the house to see where the nurse has gone. 83 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,920 And there's no sign of him. He's vanished. 84 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,200 Patrick was concerned about the pain in his arm, and as a result, 85 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,840 he attended the local hospital. 86 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:54,000 It was deemed to be likely to be side effects of a vaccination. 87 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,920 The doctors would've thought that's a bit unusual, 88 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:01,680 but it's not uncommon to react to an injection. 89 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,360 It's what we want the body to do, so that we can gain immunity 90 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,000 to that foreign thing. 91 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,560 And so, when it's a bit sore, we might be thinking, 92 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,720 "Oh, look, could there be an infection that was introduced? 93 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,920 "Possibly. Why not give him some antibiotics 94 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,360 "and just see if that helps settle things down?" 95 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,440 That should have been the end of the case. 96 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,680 The pain is really getting quite intense now. 97 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,560 There's some quite nasty blistering on his skin. 98 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,200 He's really worried, so, eventually, 99 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,920 he goes to the accident and emergency unit 100 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,480 at his local RVI hospital in Newcastle. 101 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,280 SIREN WAILS 102 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,920 When he comes back and the antibiotics haven't worked, 103 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:55,080 the pain is worse, and he's now got areas of skin 104 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,880 that are clearly dying or blistered, 105 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,320 then this is no longer a simple vaccine reaction. 106 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:02,800 Something else has gone on. 107 00:07:02,840 --> 00:07:04,760 If this was an infection, 108 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,960 then it hasn't been controlled by antibiotics, 109 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,720 it means that it's a severe infection. 110 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,560 If there's something else that's gone on to cause this tissue to die, 111 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,920 then he needs that dead tissue to be removed. 112 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,680 He's diagnosed with necrotising fasciitis, 113 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,680 which is basically, like, a flesh-eating condition. 114 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,040 Necrotising fasciitis is a deeper infection, 115 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,800 goes right down to the fascia which covers the muscle, 116 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,880 and it spreads quickly. 117 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:38,080 They have to keep cutting away the tissue to clear the infection. 118 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,440 But the incidents of necrotising fasciitis 119 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:45,240 in an otherwise fit and well person who's just had an injection 120 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:46,600 is vanishingly small. 121 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,520 It's not something we see. 122 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,880 I haven't seen any necrotising infections, 123 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:57,160 bad flesh-eating bugs, in anyone who's had a vaccination before. 124 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,920 And that's in 20 years of doing medicine. 125 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:07,040 So, all this time, Patrick's lying in intensive care, 126 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,400 not knowing what's caused this, 127 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,120 not knowing what the outcome's gonna be, 128 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,320 worried he's gonna die. 129 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,920 And of course, Jenny, who's been his partner for 20 years, 130 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:17,760 has no idea what's happening, 131 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,800 and she's looking at the possibility that he might die. 132 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,680 The doctors and nurses at the RVI were baffled by what happened. 133 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,960 When Patrick's on intensive care is likely when they realise, 134 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,880 "We need to feed back to the community nurse, 135 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,480 "we need to let the vaccine manufacturer know 136 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:40,680 "that something was wrong." 137 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,040 So, they'd have started digging. 138 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,840 They start to have a look at the letters that he'd received 139 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,400 about this appointment. 140 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:54,080 And very quickly, it becomes apparent that there is no Raj Patel 141 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,000 and there is no community nursing team, 142 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,600 and these letters that he'd received were actually fake. 143 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,680 And at that point, the police were contacted, 144 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:06,160 because it appeared that somebody had administered an injection 145 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,960 of an unknown substance into Patrick, 146 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,080 and caused him to be seriously unwell. 147 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,480 If this community nurse has injected Patrick 148 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,680 with a life-threatening poison, 149 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,640 could it be that he's going round the community, 150 00:09:19,680 --> 00:09:20,840 doing it to other people? 151 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,160 Is there a wider risk to the general public 152 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,960 with regards to this individual, or is it an isolated incident? 153 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,840 It's a very real prospect that the police have got to consider, 154 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,120 cos they just don't know who this person is. 155 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:33,680 Who is Raj Patel? 156 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,080 Patrick O'Hara, a man in his 70s, is lying in intensive care. 157 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:00,920 Er, he's in agony. 158 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,840 This was a guy who initially went in 159 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,760 saying he'd had a botched COVID jab. 160 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,000 It was a race against time 161 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,160 trying to find out what had been injected. 162 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,200 And so, at that point, they call in the police, 163 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:16,720 er, and it becomes apparent 164 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,680 this is an attempt to take somebody's life. 165 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,440 Generally, when you're talking about murders and homicides, 166 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,120 the statistics say it's around about 80% of victims 167 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,320 have had some kind of contact with the person who've killed them 168 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:37,840 or attempted to kill them. 169 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,160 Whether that be a domestic environment or socially, 170 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,160 stranger murders are very unusual. 171 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:46,480 They very rarely take place. 172 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,080 They do happen, obviously, but it's rare. 173 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,760 Most people have some kind of relationship 174 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:53,240 with the person that's killed them, 175 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,320 whether that be a long-term relationship 176 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:56,880 or a very short interaction. 177 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,840 On face value, it was somebody called Raj Patel... 178 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,360 ..who is or is purporting to be a health care nurse 179 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,960 attending the address to deliver a vaccine. 180 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,000 Which, actually, was all false. 181 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:14,800 You have got two people, 182 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,280 two elderly people in their own home, 183 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:18,480 who have been attacked. 184 00:11:19,560 --> 00:11:21,280 Now, where do you start from? 185 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,280 Because when you deal with a murder in the street, 186 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,000 there's normally obvious signs of how it's happened. 187 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,920 The method, there's a scene, there's evidence. 188 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,320 But on this occasion, 189 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,760 a person has gone in, they've got gloves on, 190 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,760 they're completely covered up, so there's not going to be any DNA. 191 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,080 For all intents and purposes, for any one of us, 192 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:43,880 if we looked at these letters, 193 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,240 they would look as if they were genuine letters from the NHS. 194 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,360 They were established as forgeries. 195 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,240 As an investigator, you want to show, 196 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,640 one, the planning involved in forging them, 197 00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:56,040 but also you've got to prove that they are false. 198 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,000 And that means going to the hospital, 199 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,320 going to the NHS, 200 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,240 and evidencing the fact that it is false, 201 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,440 the fact that Raj Patel doesn't exist. 202 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,760 Is there somebody called Raj Patel in the hospital? 203 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,680 Is he using somebody else's name, or is it just a work of fiction? 204 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,000 The fact that everything within that letter is false, 205 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,520 and the only people that can give you that evidence are the NHS. 206 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:28,920 Patrick's lying in intensive care not knowing what's caused this, 207 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,760 not knowing what the outcome's gonna be, or if he's gonna die. 208 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,480 MARK BROWN: It wasn't a COVID booster, 209 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,160 but nobody had any idea of what it was. 210 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,680 Medical staff wanted to know. 211 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:45,400 It was obvious now Patrick O'Hara had been poisoned, 212 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:46,880 had been left for dead. 213 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,320 Jenny, his partner, has no idea what's happening. 214 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,520 After he was admitted to hospital, 215 00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:57,600 he had this pain in his arm where he had been injected. 216 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,560 And gradually, the tissue underneath the skin 217 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,600 became badly damaged and became infected, 218 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,200 and that created this condition called necrotising fasciitis. 219 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,040 You can lose the arm or you can die. It's really quite a dangerous thing. 220 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,880 It happens when you damage the skin, and bacteria inside the skin 221 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,280 start growing and start damaging the tissues under there. 222 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,800 And perhaps what happened when he injected the poison, 223 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,440 we presume under the skin, 224 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,920 was he created a locus where that damage could happen. 225 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,440 So whenever, as a doctor, 226 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,360 we find someone with necrotising fasciitis, 227 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,840 we'd urgently call a surgeon, ask for an assessment. 228 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,480 There'd be imaging happening, probably a CT scan or an MRI, 229 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:38,960 try and understand what's going on, 230 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,720 and the surgeon will try and remove the skin 231 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,960 as fast as possible to get on top of what's going on. 232 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,160 JOHN FITZPATRICK: In any investigation, 233 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,240 you start at the point of the crime 234 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,200 and work your way backwards a lot of the time. 235 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,680 And so it's like you are reversing what's happened in real time. 236 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,800 MARTIN EVANS: So, the police are desperate to identify 237 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:12,000 who this Raj Patel person is who's visited Patrick at home 238 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,880 and given him this injection. 239 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:18,120 Fortunately, Patrick lived in the centre of Newcastle, 240 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:19,600 St Thomas Street. 241 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,160 There was a wealth of CCTV in the case. 242 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,160 Both Premier Inn and Newcastle City Centre as a whole 243 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,520 have good coverage of CCTV cameras. 244 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,040 So they're able to see this very distinctive-looking character, 245 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:37,960 a person dressed in the long coat, the hat and the surgical mask, 246 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,720 walking on foot through the city centre. 247 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,600 Northumbria Police picked up Raj Patel 248 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,000 and followed him all the way through the street 249 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,920 and back to the Premier Inn. 250 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,120 JOHN FITZPATRICK: I think, when they started viewing 251 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,720 the footage within the Premier Inn, alarm bells was... started ringing. 252 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:01,120 When Northumbria Police examined the CCTV from the Premier Inn, 253 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,840 they were expecting to see Raj Patel, 254 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,680 a man of Indian descent. 255 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,000 They realised that he had checked in as John Chan, 256 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,200 and when they examined the CCTV, 257 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,680 they saw a man who looked of Chinese heritage. 258 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,440 They can see this chap who's checked in as John Chan 259 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,360 eating breakfast in the restaurant, going back to his room. 260 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:26,600 And then, a couple of hours later, 261 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,200 leaving his room dressed in the outfit 262 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,520 that we know that Raj Patel was wearing. 263 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,120 Police tracked John Chan through CCTV 264 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,840 and saw him going into the car park at the Premier Inn. 265 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,560 MARK BROWN: They found him and his white Toyota Yaris. 266 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,600 They thought they'd got the man. 267 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,880 Then they found out it had fake number plates. 268 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,080 They thought, "Who is this man?" 269 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,040 Patrick was being monitored on intensive care 270 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:08,200 with checks every hour, continuous monitoring. 271 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,520 They'd looked at his condition and seen that it was getting worse. 272 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,680 They made the decision to go back to theatre 273 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,280 to cut out more of the dead tissue 274 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,560 and make sure that his chances of survival were only increasing. 275 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,160 Doctors were trying to find out what had been injected into Patrick. 276 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:29,520 When you look at a poisoner, 277 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:34,080 the typical profile is somebody who wants to have insidious control, 278 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,360 and they want to dominate their victims. 279 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:37,960 They wanna watch them suffer, 280 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,840 but in quite a distant and cowardly manner. 281 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,760 But I have to say that Raj Patel 282 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,520 doesn't quite fit into this narrative 283 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,840 because he never intended to stick around. 284 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,040 You know, his plan was to give this injection and leave, 285 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,680 and distance himself as quickly as possible. 286 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:58,240 Medics are working round the clock to identify what this poison is. 287 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,480 There's some classic poisons, like arsenic. 288 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,520 Now, arsenic we use in medical therapy now. 289 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,360 So, people with cancer may receive arsenic 290 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,640 cos it's toxic and it helps kill the cancer. 291 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,800 But it was the classic poison, 292 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,880 the poisoner's poison of the 1700 and 1800s. 293 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,000 The classic poison you would kill someone with was always arsenic. 294 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,680 Thallium is, erm, is interesting. 295 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,520 It's a slow acting poison, really. 296 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,160 It destroys your bone marrow 297 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,240 but also damages your nerves and also makes you lose your hair. 298 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,400 So, classic of people have been exposed to thallium, 299 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,200 some days or weeks after the exposure, 300 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:32,640 you find they lose their hair, 301 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,800 they get pain in their fingertips from the nerve damage, 302 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,880 and they'll, early on, have problems with their gut. 303 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,200 Also, they might have diarrhoea, pain in their abdomen, 304 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,960 as the thallium is damaging the cells in the lining of the gut. 305 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,840 So, those are two very classic poisons. 306 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,200 But it wasn't any of these poisons. 307 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,080 From the outset, very unusual crime, 308 00:17:56,120 --> 00:17:59,600 somebody to be injected with what now appears to be 309 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,760 a potentially life-threatening poison. 310 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,200 What's the motive, and who's the person responsible? 311 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,280 JOHN FITZPATRICK: The investigators established 312 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,120 that the number plates on the car were false. 313 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,400 They were the same make of car, but not the model, 314 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,080 and so again, because he was in the car in the city centre, 315 00:18:16,120 --> 00:18:19,880 they were able to trace the car's movements on CCTV 316 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,560 and, er, ANPR. 317 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,600 Now, there's ANPR cameras, 318 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,360 that's automatic number plate recognition cameras, 319 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,840 on many main roads in Britain now. 320 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,040 So, they're able to track the route of the car, 321 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:37,280 and he heads south out of Newcastle, down towards the Teesside area, 322 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,480 which is about 40 miles away, 323 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,280 and eventually ends up in a very nice wealthy place 324 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,600 near Stockton called Ingleby Barwick. 325 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:50,960 And they're able to trace the car all the way back to a house, 326 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:55,200 and that house belongs to a man called Dr Thomas Kwan. 327 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:18,080 Northumbria Police, as part of their investigation, 328 00:19:18,120 --> 00:19:20,120 spoke to Patrick and to Jenny. 329 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,160 And one of the things that Jenny said 330 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:27,560 was that the nurse, Raj Patel, was the same height as her son. 331 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,440 And when they spoke to Patrick and said, 332 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,640 "Have you been having disagreements or disputes with anybody?" 333 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,400 Because they're trying to find out why. 334 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,080 Why was Patrick targeted? 335 00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:42,120 Patrick told them that he had had no disputes, 336 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:46,120 no disagreements, and wasn't in any sort of arguments with anyone. 337 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,400 The only thing that he could think of 338 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,000 was about a year ago there had been a disagreement, 339 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:53,600 and that was about money, 340 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,680 and that was with Jenny's son, Thomas Kwan. 341 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,280 So, the information from Thomas Kwan may have been given, er, 342 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:07,080 to police by Patrick, but that would only be a suspicion at the time. 343 00:20:07,120 --> 00:20:09,800 And so they would be developing that as a line of investigation, 344 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,680 but also you've gotta follow where the evidence takes you, 345 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,680 and by tracing the car in CCTV to the house of Thomas Kwan. 346 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,560 So, that suspicion that Patrick had given to the police officers 347 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,280 who had attended the hospital was kind of cemented. 348 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,280 The police went to the hotel and obtained the details 349 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:36,200 of the person who had... who had booked in, John Chan. 350 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,560 However, the bank card they'd used to pay 351 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,160 for the room was not in that name. 352 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,760 And when they did the financial inquiries regarding the bank card, 353 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,840 it's at that stage, they realised, 354 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,240 that the person was Thomas Kwan 355 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,880 or certainly that he had paid for the hotel room. 356 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,800 That bank card had also been used to pay for parking 357 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:01,320 for the car that had been driven to Newcastle on false number plates. 358 00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:05,400 And then when the police looked into Thomas Kwan's address, 359 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,440 they found that he owned a car, of the same make and model 360 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,400 that had travelled to Newcastle on the false plates. 361 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,280 And that led to Thomas Kwan being identified as a suspect. 362 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,920 Northumbria Police felt at that point 363 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,440 that they had enough to arrest Thomas Kwan. 364 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,120 So they attended his home address. 365 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,240 POLICE RADIO CHATTER 366 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,360 BANGING ON DOOR 367 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,880 OFFICER: Hello there, are you Dr Kwan? Yes. 368 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,160 Do you mind if we come in for a second, please? 369 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,000 Yes. Thank you. 370 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,880 It was 6:30 in the morning. 371 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,480 Police got to Kwan's house. 372 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,240 The time is now 06:30 hours, OK? 373 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,880 I'm arresting you for the offence 374 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,320 of the suspicion of the attempted murder. 375 00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:57,640 You don't have to say anything but it may harm your defence 376 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,160 if you do not mention when questioned 377 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,880 something you later rely on in court. 378 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,760 Anything you do say may be given as evidence. 379 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,400 His demeanour was very calm. 380 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,320 He didn't say anything. He was... He was calm. 381 00:22:08,360 --> 00:22:10,760 He wasn't shocked in any way. 382 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,600 You're now under arrest on suspicion of those offences, OK? 383 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,480 At the point the police contacted me, 384 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,720 they'd clearly identified a single suspect in Thomas Kwan. 385 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:25,760 They had a range of evidence which strongly suggested Thomas Kwan 386 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,480 as being the person responsible 387 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,960 for delivering the injection to Patrick. 388 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,120 The issue at that point 389 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,720 was nobody had any idea what was in that injection. 390 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,320 And from that it made it quite difficult at that point 391 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:43,080 to really try to understand 392 00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:47,680 what Thomas Kwan's intentions were in delivering that injection. 393 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,200 And that was the real challenge at that point in the case. 394 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,680 It was fairly clear that Thomas Kwan was the person responsible, 395 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,960 but exactly what he'd done and why 396 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,040 was the difficulty as far as I saw it. 397 00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:10,680 After Thomas Kwan's arrest and his interview, 398 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,960 he didn't cooperate, he didn't answer any questions. 399 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,200 It's not unusual for people to remain silent during the interview. 400 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,400 But it doesn't mean that we don't ask the questions. 401 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,080 And it can be frustrating for the person being interviewed, 402 00:23:22,120 --> 00:23:23,960 and it can be frustrating for the legal advisor 403 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,680 within the interview as well. 404 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,880 But the interviewing officers won't get frustrated 405 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,160 because they've got a job to do. 406 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,680 They've gotta ask every question that's relevant, 407 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,960 because what you don't want is you don't want him 408 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,120 sort of coming up with answers within court at a later date 409 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,160 to questions that you haven't asked. 410 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,960 It's not unusual when people are suspected of serious crimes 411 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,240 that they remain silent during police interviews. 412 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,960 Obviously, you don't wanna incriminate yourself 413 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,920 by saying something that will give the police the evidence 414 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,320 they need to charge you. 415 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,960 The fact that Patrick was so ill, you know, you would use that 416 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,920 as part of your strategy during an interview. 417 00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:03,760 You would pose questions with regards to, you know, 418 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,320 if you tell us what you injected him with, 419 00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:07,800 you might be able to help. 420 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,240 You've got to remember this is at the beginning of the investigation. 421 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,000 And so a lot of the evidence that would've been recovered 422 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,360 would probably be after those interviews as well, 423 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,480 once everything's been put together. 424 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,320 So him and his legal advisor would not know the full extent 425 00:24:22,360 --> 00:24:24,240 of the evidence against them at that point. 426 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:30,440 The fact that Thomas Kwan refused to participate in the investigation... 427 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,520 ..it does raise red flags, because if he was innocent 428 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,480 and if he was horrified that somebody had tried to kill 429 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,320 his mum's partner of 20 years, 430 00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:44,280 surely any normal person would've said, "I wasn't there. 431 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,760 "It wasn't me." And they would've denied it. 432 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,400 The fact that he said nothing, nothing at all, 433 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,800 would be quite concerning as an investigator. 434 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,680 By remaining silent, you're clearly not coming across 435 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,040 to the police as somebody who's got nothing to hide. 436 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,960 Thomas Kwan is an ordinary man. 437 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,040 He was born in Hong Kong, 438 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,600 and he came to the country when he was 13 439 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:16,880 and he went to boarding school. 440 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,200 And then studied medicine at Newcastle University. 441 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,040 His parents, I think, had divorced about 27 years before this incident. 442 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,760 My name is Angela, and Dr Kwan is one of my neighbours. 443 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,040 So, if I look out my window, I can see into the garden. 444 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,720 So we're all quite close. 445 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,280 I don't think he was very friendly with any of the neighbours. 446 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,520 They more or less kept themselves to themselves. 447 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,840 Just see them coming in and out sort of thing. 448 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,640 Never really saw him out playing with a child or anything. 449 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,240 It was all a bit strange. 450 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,840 My friend has had a couple of runs in with him. 451 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:01,840 So, her children, when they were young, 452 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,640 were playing football, the ball went over the garden, 453 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,960 and he tried to say the ball wasn't there, 454 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,560 but she caught him, stabbing it and throwing it in the bin. 455 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,800 And when the neighbour mentioned that, you know, 456 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,320 ooh, the press might like to hear about the local GP 457 00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:21,080 acting in such a way, he turned up at her house 458 00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:23,440 with some brand-new footballs and football kits. 459 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,480 So, is it relevant to the investigation? 460 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,320 Erm... probably not. 461 00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:29,160 Erm, it's interesting, 462 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,040 it's interesting that he cares about what people think about him. 463 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,320 When you look at Thomas Kwan, he's 53, 464 00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:37,320 he's got a lovely house and home and family. 465 00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:38,680 He would be one of the people 466 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,760 that you would least suspect of being a criminal 467 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,360 because there isn't really an obvious motivation. 468 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,160 I first had Dr Kwan as my GP 469 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,920 around seven years ago 470 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,280 when I first moved to Sunderland. 471 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:55,920 It was my first choice of practice 472 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,760 cos it was the closest to where I live. 473 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,480 He seemed all right at first. 474 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:07,040 His room was definitely more lavish than other standard GP rooms. 475 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,080 I mean, the room that we're in right now 476 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:12,640 is your normal standard - table, bed, what have you. 477 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,760 But his was very lavish. 478 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,560 He'd had really big curtains 479 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,120 and a massive, like, pelmet at top of his window 480 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,400 and the draped curtains. 481 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,520 A huge oak table instead of your normal table 482 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:27,720 that doctors would have. 483 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,800 He had ornaments and things like that, 484 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,840 which kind of also made me think he likes finer things in life. 485 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,480 So, he was obviously concerned about his image. 486 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,320 He was concerned about his image as a doctor, 487 00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:43,640 but then he was a GP and he was a well established GP in the area, 488 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,440 so it would be obvious that he's concerned 489 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:46,960 about what people think of him. 490 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,120 At first, my initial appointment was, 491 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,720 he was friendly, he was chatty, welcomed us to the surgery. 492 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,120 You know, nothing out of the ordinary. 493 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,000 Had a nice chat with him about any other health issues I had. 494 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,600 But that changed from my second visit 495 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,640 of him not speaking at all. 496 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,560 I say "at all", probably you'd get a "hello" 497 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,880 or a "how are you?" when you got into the room. 498 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,280 But after that he would just sit and type on his computer. 499 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,680 He wouldn't look at you or speak or anything. 500 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,640 And it was very daunting. 501 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,920 And that was obviously a big change from the first... 502 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,240 from the first appointment. 503 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,360 That was a huge change. 504 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,320 And it was just a bit, hm, that's a bit strange, bit odd, 505 00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:32,120 a bit peculiar to experience. 506 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,480 He's a professional. 507 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:35,680 He has to engage with people 508 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,680 because he has to find out what's wrong with them. 509 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,560 He has to diagnose them with stuff, 510 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,840 but then he has to do his work as well. 511 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,480 So that just could be the way he works as a doctor. 512 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:50,160 Very much Jekyll and Hyde type of scenario. 513 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,520 And it carried on like that from every appointment I had with him. 514 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,440 He opened the door for me and walking past him... 515 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,560 was, I don't want to say intimidating... 516 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,200 ..but there was something 517 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,800 that you could just feel that wasn't right. 518 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,120 You know when you walk past somebody and you just go, 519 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,480 "Oh, no, they're not nice." 520 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,120 You just don't feel comfortable walking past 'em. 521 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,680 It was like that. I just didn't feel right. 522 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,880 And I just thought, "I've gotta trust my gut. 523 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,240 "I need to see somebody else." 524 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,080 I ended up not feeling safe 525 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,960 because I didn't feel like he was listening to us properly. 526 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,680 And I just didn't feel right with him. 527 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,040 So, as a forensic psychiatrist, 528 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,120 I deal with a lot of criminal cases 529 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,560 and what really stands out to me 530 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,360 and what really makes this case unique is the offender profile. 531 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,080 So, you've got somebody who's well respected, a doctor, 532 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,440 a GP, that's the first thing. 533 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:52,560 Secondly, the method that he chose of poisoning is exceptionally rare. 534 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,480 But also the audacity and the risk-taking that he did, 535 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:56,960 the boldness of what he did, 536 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,040 going in disguise to see his own mother 537 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,280 and his mother's partner. 538 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,720 Thomas Kwan had had breakfast at the Premier Inn, 539 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,960 he'd sat there for 20 minutes, he'd enjoyed his breakfast, 540 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,200 he didn't appear to be stressed, 541 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,520 worried about anything that he was about to do. 542 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,280 And then he put on his disguise and became Raj Patel. 543 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:29,760 That, to me, demonstrates a real lack of empathy about caring, 544 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,960 and about the awful task... 545 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,960 the awful thing that he was about to do. 546 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,120 He just seemed to be so relaxed about it. 547 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,840 Externally, he looked calm, 548 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,920 but you never really know what somebody's feeling internally. 549 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,800 But it does feel like he's emotionally detached. 550 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,120 It feels like he's committed to his actions. 551 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,160 This doesn't strike me as somebody who's ambivalent, who's panicking, 552 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,040 who's trying to decide whether he wants to go through this or not. 553 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,880 It feels like he's already made his decision. 554 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,880 After Thomas Kwan injected Patrick 555 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:05,000 with what he believed was going to be a lethal poison, 556 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,320 he then gently saunters off 557 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,080 and walks into a Greggs, where he gets something to eat. 558 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,360 Now that's somebody who's really relaxed 559 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,520 and really at peace with himself. 560 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,920 They'd be emotionally aroused. 561 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,640 There's probably a lot of adrenaline going through their body. 562 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,360 They wouldn't be hungry. 563 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,000 So the very fact that Kwan could do this after, 564 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,240 from what he thinks he's just killed his mother's partner, 565 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,880 to me, shows a level of emotional detachment and calmness. 566 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,320 It seems like he's comfortable with what he's just done. 567 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,240 I think it's fair to say that most people in this situation 568 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,480 would be, you know, frightened. 569 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,760 Of course, this lack of fear is one of the key features of psychopathy. 570 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,120 But having said that, 571 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,720 I don't think I could definitively say that Kwan was a psychopath 572 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,040 because we don't know enough about the other core features 573 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,480 like manipulation, being very, very charming. 574 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,000 And also, psychopaths are like this 575 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,240 in all their actions throughout all of their lives, 576 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,240 not just on one particular event. 577 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,320 One big question in this case which everybody has asked is, 578 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,280 how come Patrick O'Hara or Jenny Leung 579 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,000 didn't recognise that it was Thomas Kwan? 580 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,400 Jenny didn't recognise that it was her son. 581 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:26,040 Patrick O'Hara didn't recognise that it was his partner's son. 582 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,120 This was somebody they knew. 583 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,640 So, how good was Thomas Kwan's disguise? 584 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,160 Clearly very good. 585 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,160 Why wouldn't his mother and Patrick recognise him? 586 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,000 But if you think of the context of the crime, 587 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,240 and how it was planned and how it was put together, 588 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,320 you know, the letters that were sent, 589 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,000 they looked original, they looked genuine. 590 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,840 If you think of the text that was sent the night before, 591 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,840 and if you think of the context at that time, 592 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,200 that people were getting COVID boosters... 593 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,880 So why would they think it? Why would they be suspicious? 594 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,200 The audacity of Kwan's actions. 595 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,240 You know, he put on this disguise, 596 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,720 he put on some make-up to darken his skin, 597 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,200 to change his identity, 598 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,160 but he went to his own mother's house 599 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,120 and he interacted with his mother's partner. 600 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,680 They'd been together for 20 years. 601 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,560 So obviously they were very familiar. 602 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,960 So just the boldness that it takes 603 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,480 to try and pull something like this, 604 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,680 and the naivety of all. 605 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,440 From my own experiences, it's really unusual 606 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,920 for people to go to such lengths to disguise who they are 607 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,840 and to, you know, change their name, their identity, 608 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,600 not just once, but twice, to use the identity of Raj Patel, 609 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,760 and then to use the identity of John Chan. 610 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,800 And coupled with the letters, 611 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,880 the false letters that Thomas Kwan wrote, 612 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,440 it's really unusual to go to that length. 613 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,360 And it wasn't just as if he planned all this the day before. 614 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,640 Patrick, of course, is still in the hospital 615 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,960 with a serious health condition, 616 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,080 And medics are battling to save his arm, save his life. 617 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,720 The problem is they don't know what they're dealing with. 618 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,360 They don't know what this poison is. 619 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,320 And, of course, the one person who does know what the poison is 620 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:06,760 is the person who administered it. 621 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,800 And that is the suspect, Thomas Kwan. 622 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,520 POLICE OFFICER: Dr Kwan? Dr Kwan? Hello. 623 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,960 You don't have to say anything but it may harm your defence 624 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,480 if you don't mention when questioned 625 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,320 something which you later rely on in court. 626 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,920 He was just the average doctor. 627 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,120 You know, I trusted him. I put my life in his hands. 628 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,080 I don't understand how he's done something like this. 629 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,280 I received contact later that same day 630 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,920 to explain that when they'd searched Thomas Kwan's house, 631 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,720 they had had to stop the search. 632 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,040 After Thomas Kwan's arrest, and his interview, 633 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,320 although he didn't cooperate and he didn't answer any questions, 634 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,120 one of the things that he did say to police officers 635 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,520 was to be careful about going into the garage. 636 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,960 Specialist search teams were called into the address 637 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,480 so that they could safely examine what was in the house. 638 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,760 I don't think police could quite believe what they found 639 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,360 when they went into the garage. 640 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,240 It was around early evening 641 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,400 and I got a call to say, "Terry, you need to get to Ingleby Barwick, 642 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,280 "there's something happened in this street." 643 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,280 So, we arrived at the street. 644 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,040 It was crazy, full of emergency services. 645 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,400 I work on my own, I'm a one-man band, and I get out 646 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,320 and I... I start taking photographs and filming whatever's happening. 647 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,400 So, in this quiet place of Ingleby Barwick, 648 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,800 residents suddenly see police officers turning up 649 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,840 in blue, sort of, chemical protective suits 650 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,120 and going into the house 651 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,640 of a person they think is a respectable, upstanding citizen. 652 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,560 Everyone was looking out the window. We'd all taken pictures. 653 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,400 It was exciting, 654 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,680 but we were actually getting more and more scared 655 00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:14,480 the more the night was going on 656 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,360 and more tents were popping up and things like that. 657 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:23,640 So, we started knocking on doors, knocking on neighbours' doors. 658 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,440 Some would speak, some wouldn't, 659 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,120 but none of them knew what was going on. 660 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,320 Gossip would've been flying around 661 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,800 and, very likely, the police weren't telling them much at that stage. 662 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,000 Cos in reality, the police 663 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,240 didn't really know what they were dealing with either. 664 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,480 My initial suspicions were that it was some type of fire 665 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,200 or there'd been a fire and I'd missed it, 666 00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:47,800 because the amount of fire engines and firemen on scene... 667 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,520 The neighbours were concerned. 668 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,520 They were asking us, you know, try and find out what's happened. 669 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,640 People look out for each other here. 670 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,520 There is a neighbourhood watch, 671 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,280 and obviously all the gardens, you can see what everybody's doing. 672 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,480 My neighbour rang me and said, 673 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,960 "You need to come over here and see what's going on." 674 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,520 They were putting big lights up, tents were popping up. 675 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:19,320 We knew it was a doctor, we knew something bad had gone on. 676 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,880 We actually thought he'd been killing people 677 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,720 and there was bodies in the garden, as the tents were coming up. 678 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,080 They were coming out of the house with boxes, 679 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,960 and there was just bright lights flashing everywhere. 680 00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:35,400 When police conducted the home search, 681 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,040 they would cordon off an area, 682 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,360 and they'll tell people to either stay in their homes 683 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,440 or get out of their homes, depending on the severity. 684 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,720 But that would lead to speculation. 685 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,320 That would lead to people looking out their windows, 686 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,320 that would lead to people posting things on social media. 687 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,040 So, there is a fine line 688 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,840 between an investigation and sharing information. 689 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,160 We were looking out on one of her son's bedrooms. 690 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,080 Then when Terry the snapper were let in, 691 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,560 he was getting some photographs from another bedroom view 692 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,800 that other people couldn't get hold of. 693 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,600 When we're talking about a search of a premises, 694 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:14,960 you have to have a strategy. 695 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,240 "Is there anything forensically within that premises 696 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,480 "that we need to recover?" 697 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,440 "What are we looking for?" 698 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,200 "If we find items, how are we gonna preserve that evidence?" 699 00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:26,360 And there'd be a digital forensic strategy as well 700 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:30,120 with regards to any digital devices like laptops or iPads. 701 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,800 We'd seen that they were getting changed into PPE. 702 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,120 Not just normal PPE. 703 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,680 I've arrived at jobs before and I've seen PPE 704 00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:42,480 and, you know, suits that they have to wear for different incidents. 705 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,240 This was, like, you know... 706 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,240 They looked as if they were gonna get ready to go into space. 707 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,640 It was as if there was, like, some explosive in the house 708 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,280 and they didn't know, or they weren't aware of what it was, 709 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,160 as to how careful they were going, you know? 710 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,600 I mean, they're carrying trays in the house, 711 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,520 and bringing trays out, things on the trays 712 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,280 and placing them very carefully and it was... 713 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,240 You know, it's like nothing I've ever seen. 714 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,360 The officers who attended 715 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,520 found the false number plates that had been used on the car 716 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:16,720 to travel to Newcastle. 717 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,280 It was quite clear by that stage 718 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,760 that we could establish that Thomas Kwan 719 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,720 was the individual who delivered the injection into Patrick's arm. 720 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:29,200 The question was, what it was that had been used in the injection, 721 00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:32,480 but also whether there was any motive for doing so. 722 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,600 Kwan's house looked ordinary. 723 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,240 It looked spotless. It was clean. 724 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:39,680 It was just a normal house. 725 00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:41,760 But as they move through the house, 726 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,520 they found something far more sinister. 727 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:49,320 Upon finding what appeared to be harmful chemicals 728 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,320 and documents relating to poisons, 729 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,000 those officers then had to stop, leave the address. 730 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,480 Police, they've obviously had this comment from Kwan 731 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,000 about being careful about the garage. 732 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,680 and it's clear quite early on 733 00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:06,120 that he has got a big stockpile of chemicals. 734 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,120 Specialist search teams then had to be called in 735 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,360 in order to conduct that search safely, 736 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,880 given the nature of the poisons that were being recovered. 737 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,720 Patrick laid in intensive care for five days. 738 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,080 The doctors that were treating him were racing against time 739 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:30,120 to try and identify the substance that had been injected into him. 740 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,040 If the police are thinking about poison being present in a house, 741 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:35,520 they'd be careful when they walk in. 742 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,440 They're gonna take precautions. Those precautions are standard. 743 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,320 Don't wanna blunder in and knock things over 744 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,000 and not understand what's going on in the house. 745 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,600 From a poisoning perspective, there's another element as well. 746 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,600 You don't want to touch things which are poisons. 747 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,120 You don't want to knock bottles over, 748 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,440 you don't want to release gases. 749 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,120 There's lots of things you don't really want to do around a poison. 750 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,760 Therefore, going in slowly and carefully, fully protected, 751 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,200 is a very sensible approach. 752 00:40:57,240 --> 00:41:00,680 When they went into the house, they found a number of different poisons. 753 00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:04,200 And those poisons included arsenic and thallium, 754 00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:05,680 and sulphuric acid. 755 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,880 Sulphuric acid is a very strong acid, 756 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,960 which will cause damage in direct effect. 757 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,400 If you inject it into yourself, 758 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,680 or you spill it on yourself, or you swallow it, 759 00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:17,840 you really get terrible damage in the skin 760 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,440 or the lining of your gut as well. 761 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,080 Liquid mercury in itself is not particularly toxic. 762 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,200 It's quite hard to get into your body. 763 00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:25,960 The disaster time of mercury 764 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,120 is when you get a big dose into your body through inhaling it. 765 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,960 Cyanide is present in lots of chemical reactions. 766 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,080 You find it in school chemistry departments. 767 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,880 You find it in industry. It's a mitochondrial poison. 768 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,960 So this is a mitochondria, the energy parts of your cells. 769 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,840 Our cells work because this part of the cell 770 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,280 is producing lots of energy. 771 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,400 If the mitochondria stop working, it's very toxic. 772 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:51,680 You'd get ill quite quickly. 773 00:41:51,720 --> 00:41:54,680 And they found the components to make ricin. 774 00:41:56,240 --> 00:41:59,560 We worked with the police to find an expert 775 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:04,240 who could comment upon both Patrick's injuries, 776 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,080 but also the substances that had been recovered 777 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:08,800 from Thomas Kwan's address. 778 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,880 And whether any of those substances 779 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,080 were likely to have caused Patrick's injuries. 780 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,520 The Chief Medical Officer 781 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,960 at the Defence Science Technology Laboratory 782 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,160 was able to tell us that ricin was unlikely 783 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,840 to have been the substance that was injected into Patrick. 784 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:31,680 Police searched and scoured through this garage full of chemicals, 785 00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:34,000 and they found iodomethane. 786 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:39,160 Of all the substances that had been found in Thomas Kwan's address, 787 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:43,240 iodomethane was the most likely candidate 788 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,640 as the substance that had been used against Patrick. 789 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,720 This was a real breakthrough. It was a eureka moment. 790 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:59,240 Tellingly, the police had also recovered an empty syringe 791 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,400 in a grip-seal plastic food bag 792 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,400 that was labelled with the chemical formula for iodomethane. 793 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,840 So, putting together this report and the recovery of that syringe 794 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,080 with that chemical symbol on it 795 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,000 meant that we could safely infer 796 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:20,480 that the chemical that had been used against Patrick was iodomethane. 797 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,960 They find a cache of books and documents about poisons 798 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,960 and chemicals and murder. 799 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,720 They find that he's got a book 800 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,160 from the National Police Centre For Excellence 801 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,160 on murder investigations. 802 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,600 They look at his computer, 803 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,880 they find a huge number of searches being carried out 804 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,640 about how to kill people with poisons. 805 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,760 They find a terrorist handbook. 806 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:52,600 They find a book which is called the Mujahideen Poison Handbook, 807 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,160 which is how to kill people with certain chemicals. 808 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,080 I was impressed about the number of poisons he had 809 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,280 and the variety and the kind of potency of the poisons. 810 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,800 These chemicals are not things you can buy very easily. 811 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,240 In January 2023, he set up a shell company. 812 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,920 He used the address of his surgery where he worked legitimately. 813 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,600 And through that shell company, he was able to buy poisons. 814 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,200 He purported to be a researcher 815 00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:24,280 and that he needed those poisons for his research. 816 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:27,880 In the garage, the photographs indicate 817 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,320 there was a lot of stuff in there 818 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,000 which must have made it quite difficult 819 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,880 to go around preparing poisons. 820 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,600 May have been the reason why he decided 821 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:35,960 not to go down the ricin route 822 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,320 because you would want to have a very clean, careful environment 823 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:40,520 to do work with ricin. 824 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:41,800 Perhaps with cyanide as well. 825 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,640 Perhaps going for something like iodomethane or sulfuric acid, 826 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,240 cos it's neat and in a bottle, can just be drawn out with a syringe. 827 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,840 Iodomethane, it's a really uncommon poison. 828 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,920 There's not a large amount of information about it. 829 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,400 We don't have much experience of it. 830 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,160 I can assure you, if you come to hospital, 831 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,240 nobody's thinking about this as a potential poison 832 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:01,520 you might have been exposed to. 833 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,920 So turning up the hospital, having had this injected into you 834 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,600 is so left field. 835 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,440 Even a toxicologist, someone like myself 836 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,960 who thinks day in, day out, of all the poisons out there, 837 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,160 I'm not gonna be thinking of this poison. 838 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,840 It was apparent that he'd been doing some research online. 839 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,440 There was some material found on computers and telephones 840 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,760 that showed Thomas Kwan had been conducting extensive research 841 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,240 into how to produce ricin, 842 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,440 how much of it would be used to kill somebody. 843 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,240 We know he'd been trying to manufacture ricin. 844 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,040 But of course, the problem with ricin 845 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,640 is to administer it, you put yourself at risk as well. 846 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,440 And clearly he didn't want to do that. 847 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,640 So perhaps iodomethane was the perfect chemical in his mind, 848 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,160 because he could administer it without risk to himself, 849 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,080 and it would make it extremely difficult 850 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,880 for the medics treating Patrick to know what they were dealing with. 851 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,240 If you look at the compound, it's a very simple compound. 852 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,720 It's simply a methane, which is a single carbon, 853 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,600 three hydrogen ions, and an iodide. 854 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,520 It's about as small a molecule as you can imagine. 855 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,960 So if I was going to take a blood sample from a patient 856 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,040 and look for a poison, generally, we are looking for multiple things. 857 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,440 We're not looking for this at all. 858 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,280 So unless there's a particular reason to go looking for it, 859 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:14,920 again, you wouldn't detect it. 860 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,840 So he's come across a poison which is quite hard to detect. 861 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,360 If it's just in a routine thing - 862 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,600 you're doing a postmortem or a sample you sent to a lab 863 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,120 saying, "This person's had a poison, can you find anything?" - 864 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,560 they're probably gonna say "No, there's nothing in there." 865 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,560 There have been a few cases in literature. 866 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,320 The majority of the cases are industrial accidents 867 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,360 when people have either inhaled it 868 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,200 because it's been released in the factory, 869 00:46:35,240 --> 00:46:38,120 or their PPE, their overalls have leaked, 870 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,320 and actually there's been exposure through the skin, 871 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,880 they've absorbed it through the skin, and become quite unwell. 872 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,880 The likelihood is that he chose iodomethane 873 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,240 because it was such an unusual chemical to use. 874 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:55,280 It's something that medics have got no experience of treating, really. 875 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,080 So, by using that chemical, he made the likelihood 876 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,680 that he would succeed in his plan to kill Patrick even more likely. 877 00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:06,360 The chain of events started by Thomas Kwan would've led to death. 878 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,400 Patrick may not have survived this 879 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,760 if the surgeons hadn't made the right decisions, which they did. 880 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,480 They took them to theatre. 881 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,880 They would've been cutting away tissue 882 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,880 until the point that it would be bleeding. 883 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,600 Cos bleeding tissue is healthy tissue. 884 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,120 The problem is, there's a balance 885 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,680 between cutting away enough to clear all the infection - 886 00:47:27,720 --> 00:47:29,960 which they did, and they had to do - 887 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,640 versus cutting away a little bit too much, 888 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:36,680 which will leave an even greater level of disability later. 889 00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:38,840 How dangerous is this poison? 890 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,440 Not many humans have been exposed to it, 891 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,720 so we don't really have very good information. 892 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,440 But Patrick did badly because he got necrotising fasciitis, 893 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,960 which is a complication of how it was given to him 894 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,520 rather than the actual poison itself. 895 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,880 Even with all of the expertise being applied, 896 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,160 Patrick still could have died. 897 00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:00,280 Thankfully, Patrick survived. 898 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,640 Policewoman came into the streets knocking on everyone's doors, 899 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,440 telling us not to leave the house, 900 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,520 to keep the doors shut, and all the windows shut. 901 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,200 Cos obviously he had, 902 00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:20,080 supposed to have had a very dangerous ricin poison 903 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:21,480 in the garage. 904 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,680 So we were all quite upset, actually, 905 00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:28,920 because we felt that he'd put us into danger. 906 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,040 One of the aspects of this case 907 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:35,560 is the danger that he caused to himself, but also to others. 908 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,840 He was concocting all sorts of poisons and lotions in his own home, 909 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,400 in the garage. 910 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,320 He's a father. He's got a wife. 911 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,440 Any one of them could have gone into that garage unsuspectingly 912 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,080 and touched a poison 913 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,840 or hurt themselves or others through that. 914 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,720 My husband was working away at the time, 915 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:57,200 and the next day, he rang me and asked why our house was on news. 916 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:03,160 The news of his arrest was everywhere. It was huge. 917 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,760 I think a lot of people were just shocked, cos they seen him a lot, 918 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,360 they had a lot of patients at that surgery. 919 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,960 Then when it come out about attempted murder, 920 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,520 that's when it really kicked off in the town. 921 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,560 When I'd found out that this guy tried to kill his mother's partner 922 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,000 and, you know, inject him with something to kill him, 923 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,840 you don't think about a doctor doing something like that. 924 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,800 You know, they're supposed to be trusted professionals. 925 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,880 So it's, erm... It was quite shocking. 926 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,640 This was a GP who'd disguised himself 927 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,560 to give a fake COVID jab to somebody he knew, 928 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,920 somebody who was his mother's partner, 929 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,440 knowing that it wasn't a COVID jab, it was poison. 930 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,120 GPs are incredibly trusted people. 931 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,560 You trust your life with 'em. 932 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,040 It would've been really difficult for his patients to realise 933 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,960 that they were being treated by a man who was willing to murder. 934 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,640 As investigators, we follow the evidence. 935 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,200 Is this a targeted attack on an individual? 936 00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:26,560 And if it is a targeted attack on an individual, why? 937 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:27,720 What is the motive? 938 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:32,320 Patrick O'Hara was a 71-year-old guy who's leading a normal life. 939 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,240 Why would he be targeted in such a way? 940 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,000 Because the perpetrator of the crime 941 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,360 left so many bits of evidence for the investigators to follow, 942 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,200 I would imagine fairly quickly they put the story together. 943 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,320 The police were able to gather evidence 944 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,400 that showed there'd been a long-running dispute 945 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,760 between Thomas Kwan and his mother, Jenny. 946 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,920 It dates back almost 30 years, when his parents got divorced, 947 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,720 and he had accused his mother 948 00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:01,280 of withdrawing a million pounds from his father's bank account 949 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:02,440 and then divorcing him. 950 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,720 And there was clearly a belief 951 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,520 that he had not got what he was entitled to. 952 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,240 And I think that was at the heart of the issue 953 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,240 that he had with his mother over money. 954 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,280 The relationship between Kwan and his mother, 955 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,560 to me, it seems very conditional, very transactional. 956 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,040 He felt slighted by his mother. 957 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,960 And money was one thing that he could argue about. 958 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,360 He, himself, was wealthy. 959 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,080 He was trying to buy a house for two million pounds. 960 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,000 Cos let's not forget, this is a man in his 50s. 961 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,520 He's an established doctor. 962 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,560 But he seems to still view his mother 963 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,240 as a potential source of income. 964 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,720 In Chinese culture, the eldest son inherits the estate. 965 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,960 Kwan was clearly furious 966 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:52,320 when his younger brother inherited his father's estate. 967 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,800 Thomas' mother had put in her will 968 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,920 the fact that Patrick could live in the house after she died, 969 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,320 and therefore, he had some kind of ownership of that house. 970 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,080 He saw Patrick as the villain. 971 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,800 He was entitled to inherit his mother's estate. 972 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,880 This perceived injustice festered for years 973 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,280 and led to Kwan writing to his mother, 974 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,960 insisting that she make him executor of her estate. 975 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,280 His mother's property in Newcastle 976 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,280 was worth a little bit more than £200,000. 977 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,360 It wasn't life-changing sums. 978 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,680 And I think it was more about his belief 979 00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:32,680 that he had a right to the inheritance, 980 00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:35,200 rather than the amount itself. 981 00:52:35,240 --> 00:52:36,760 He felt slighted in the fact 982 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,680 that Patrick had got access to the will, 983 00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:45,360 and that also that the siblings would probably get an equal share. 984 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:49,760 So I think Kwan thought that he was entitled to something 985 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,920 as the eldest son, from the estate, 986 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:56,880 and there is a sense that he wasn't getting what he deserved. 987 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,800 In one letter he wrote to his mother, he'd said, 988 00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,680 "I should get the majority of your will." 989 00:53:03,720 --> 00:53:06,360 Erm, "I'm the one that you love most." 990 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,160 In November 2022, things reached a boiling point 991 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:14,280 and Kwan went to his mother's house in Newcastle, 992 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:15,520 forced his way in, 993 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,400 began shouting and becoming aggressive 994 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,360 and demanding answers. 995 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,000 It got so heated that Patrick and Jenny did call the police, 996 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,480 who arrived and asked whether they wanted to press charges. 997 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,000 Jenny decided that she didn't 998 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,360 because she was worried about her son's career. 999 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,200 I think this shows that, in certain circumstances, 1000 00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:39,840 if his buttons are pushed, 1001 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,600 Kwan is somebody who can be quite explosive, quite volatile. 1002 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,240 And according to him, there's a bit of bitterness and resentment 1003 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,560 because she hadn't showed him enough love growing up. 1004 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,840 It's hard to know where the truth actually lies. 1005 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:57,480 It clearly established a motive for Thomas Kwan. 1006 00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,160 And this was useful for us as a prosecution team 1007 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,280 because it set out why he would seek to kill Patrick. 1008 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,800 I do think that the main motivation behind Kwan's actions 1009 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,000 are simply greed. 1010 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,440 He wanted more money, even though he was quite wealthy. 1011 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,840 And this sense of entitlement. He deserved this money. 1012 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,080 But I also think, to a degree, there was an element 1013 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,680 of him wanting to seek some sort of retribution or revenge 1014 00:54:19,720 --> 00:54:20,720 to his mother 1015 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,160 because there had been some recent bad blood between them, 1016 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:24,760 they had fallen out. 1017 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,400 And it feels like he's doing something personal to her 1018 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:28,920 by attacking her partner. 1019 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,840 The amount of planning that Thomas Kwan did 1020 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,920 dated back a long, long time. 1021 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,440 In 2020, he gave his mum a laptop. 1022 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,960 It was installed with spyware so that he could actually watch them. 1023 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,120 It was like a covert camera in their home, 1024 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,560 and he could also monitor their emails 1025 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,600 and their financial transactions. 1026 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,800 And then you go to November 2023, 1027 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,760 which is when he first sent the very first NHS letter 1028 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,840 asking, or suggesting, a COVID injection. 1029 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:06,520 Then in December 2023, he cleared his diary for January. 1030 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,240 DR DAS: And in January 2024, 1031 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,080 Kwan started researching poisons like ricin. 1032 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:16,400 So, it really feels like he was... His plan was crystallising. 1033 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,960 We know that before he went to Patrick's home 1034 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,000 to carry out the attempted murder, 1035 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,440 he carried out a reconnaissance mission. 1036 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,920 So, he and his wife, and his young son, 1037 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:32,400 checked into the Premier hotel in Newcastle. 1038 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,680 He no doubt gave his family some excuses 1039 00:55:35,720 --> 00:55:38,320 as to why they were gonna spend the night in Newcastle. 1040 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,120 But he could check out his route. 1041 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:44,280 And then, the day before he injected Patrick, 1042 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,560 he sent a text reminder 1043 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,400 posing as Raj Patel, the community nurse. 1044 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,840 And to do that, he ordered an anonymous sim, 1045 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,960 because, obviously, had he sent a text message from his own phone, 1046 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,840 Patrick would've immediately realised what was going on. 1047 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,480 During the police investigation, 1048 00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:09,520 Northumbria Police did actually uncover two other methods 1049 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,600 that Thomas Kwan must have considered 1050 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,560 in administrating this poison to Patrick. 1051 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,000 They found letters. 1052 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,200 One letter was supposed to be from a gentlemen's wine club, 1053 00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:23,920 and another letter was to provide free meals and free drinks 1054 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:25,200 to Patrick. 1055 00:56:25,240 --> 00:56:28,400 Obviously, Thomas Kwan was actually considering 1056 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,680 whether or not to lace the wine or lace the food 1057 00:56:31,720 --> 00:56:33,960 that he was going to provide to Patrick. 1058 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:38,080 If he sent wine or he sent food that was laced, 1059 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:39,960 Patrick may not have eaten it. 1060 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,520 Jenny could have eaten it, or they could've given it away. 1061 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,360 You know, there's no guarantee that Patrick's going to eat it. 1062 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,280 And if he is going to eat it, when is he going to eat it? 1063 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,520 Because Thomas Kwan wanted the money straightaway. 1064 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:53,840 He never sent those letters, 1065 00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:58,160 so he obviously decided that, under the guise of the COVID injection, 1066 00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,240 he could probably do a better, more lethal job. 1067 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,480 As a forensic psychiatrist, part of my role as an expert witness 1068 00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:06,680 is to give evidence 1069 00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:10,120 to decide if a defendant is in control of their actions. 1070 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:11,960 If they have criminal culpability. 1071 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,320 For example, if it's related to mental illness. 1072 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,040 And looking at this case, I can say unequivocally 1073 00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,000 Thomas Kwan was definitely in control of his actions, 1074 00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:21,640 and I think his pre-planning, 1075 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,480 and putting in all this time and effort, proves that beyond doubt. 1076 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,040 You have kind of a juxtaposition between him committing a crime 1077 00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:31,760 but not being a criminal. 1078 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:36,120 And so, whilst the planning was detailed and extensive, 1079 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:40,200 it was also a little bit amateurish in terms of criminality. 1080 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,720 A little naive in relation to sort of leaving a trail of breadcrumbs 1081 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,800 for the police to follow in the end, which he did. 1082 00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,800 When Thomas Kwan was spoken to, 1083 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,800 there was a real lack of remorse shown throughout. 1084 00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:58,720 After he gave Patrick the injection, he quite casually went to Greggs. 1085 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,080 He casually drove home. 1086 00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:02,760 He's never apologised, 1087 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:07,120 never shown any sign of weakness or regret at what he's done. 1088 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,560 You know, even after arrest and being remanded in prison 1089 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,320 and facing a trial for attempted murder, 1090 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,680 he wrote to his wife and mentioned the fact 1091 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:21,120 that Patrick may seek compensation for his injuries. 1092 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,880 And the tone of that letter and the contents of that letter 1093 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:26,480 was quite arrogant 1094 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:31,000 with regards to, you know, "one old man's compensation 1095 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,440 "for ruining three people's lives", along those lines. 1096 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,000 From that letter, 1097 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,480 he seems to be portraying himself as the victim, 1098 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:46,760 himself and his family, as being the victims of this old man, 1099 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,240 who is Patrick, rather than the other way round. 1100 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,080 Patrick nearly died. 1101 00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,920 The lack of remorse, the lack of acknowledgement 1102 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,880 about the level and the gravity of what he'd done, 1103 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,520 it is unusual with regards to... 1104 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,200 You know, we have to bear in mind that he was a doctor, 1105 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,480 and he wasn't a seasoned criminal. 1106 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:09,960 Having that level of arrogance and entitlement, 1107 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,640 I would say, in his circumstances, very unusual. 1108 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,080 He denied the charges of attempted murder, 1109 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,720 and kept on denying them until the court case, 1110 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,560 and the trial opened. 1111 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,520 Kwan went to trial at Newcastle Crown Court 1112 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,120 in October 2024, 1113 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,600 where Kwan denied the charges of attempted murder. 1114 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,440 The barristers were present at court, 1115 00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,800 witnesses had been arranged to attend, 1116 00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:57,720 and the trial began. 1117 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,320 Thomas Kwan was in the dock, and the prosecution barrister 1118 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,160 delivered his opening speech to the jury, 1119 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,560 describing to them the evidence they were likely to hear, 1120 01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:10,880 and what the prosecution's case was about what had happened to Patrick. 1121 01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,280 From the outset, Kwan had denied the charges. 1122 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,440 When he was first arrested, his legal team 1123 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,520 said he would vehemently contest the charges 1124 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,800 and deny attempted murder. 1125 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,000 There was a lot of evidence against Kwan. 1126 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:30,760 There was the CCTV showing him leaving the scene of the crime. 1127 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,520 There was all the material found at his home. 1128 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:38,480 There was the copies of the letters that he'd sent to Patrick. 1129 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,880 There was the books about poison. There were the chemicals. 1130 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,520 So the weight of evidence against him was extremely strong. 1131 01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:49,680 I think sometimes when defendants get into court 1132 01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:53,040 and the reality of a trial hits them, 1133 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,840 er, they can sometimes have a change of heart. 1134 01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,000 We didn't get very far into the trial 1135 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,840 when Thomas Kwan indicated that he wished to change his plea, 1136 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,920 and on the seventh of October, 1137 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:09,080 he asked to have the indictment put to him again, 1138 01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:12,400 and he entered a guilty plea to the charge of attempted murder. 1139 01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,960 At that point, the prosecution's role changes, 1140 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,400 and our job is then to present the case to the judge 1141 01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,480 so that they can make a determination 1142 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,840 as to what the appropriate sentence was. 1143 01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:31,360 The prosecution was clear 1144 01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,360 that what had driven this crime was greed, 1145 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,480 and greed for the sake of greed. 1146 01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,960 An extraordinarily audacious crime. 1147 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:46,160 We needed to make clear to the judge the level of planning in this case, 1148 01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:49,320 the number of steps that Thomas Kwan had taken 1149 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,280 to disguise what had happened. 1150 01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,800 It was also important to highlight to the judge 1151 01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:59,160 that this was an attempt to murder Patrick for financial gain. 1152 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:05,320 Thomas Kwan's ultimate aim was to remove Patrick as an obstacle 1153 01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:09,400 to his perceived right to his inheritance from his mother, 1154 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:14,400 and the law recognises that murdering someone for financial gain 1155 01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:18,880 is a particularly serious offense. 1156 01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,640 Another important factor was the location of the offense. 1157 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,120 The offense was committed in Patrick's own home, 1158 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,680 and we should all have the right to feel safe in our own home. 1159 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:35,400 Patrick was in court surrounded by family members. 1160 01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,240 The impact on him was extraordinary. 1161 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:43,800 So, not only the physical scars, which were really quite bad... 1162 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,280 I mean, he had part of his arm removed. 1163 01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:50,600 He lived with the scars and the pain for the rest of his life. 1164 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,800 But also the emotional scars. 1165 01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,920 Hearing Patrick's victim impact statement in court 1166 01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,480 was incredibly moving for everybody in court, I think. 1167 01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:03,520 He talked about how his life would never be the same again. 1168 01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,320 He talked about the psychological damage 1169 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:07,680 which had been caused to him. 1170 01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:09,400 And everybody just listened. 1171 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:14,520 He described himself as being like a shell of his former self. 1172 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:16,760 His confidence has gone. 1173 01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,480 His relationship with Jenny sadly broke up. 1174 01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:23,520 It's hard to overstate the impact 1175 01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,440 that this attempted murder had on him, 1176 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,320 and will have for the rest of his life. 1177 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,320 During the sentencing, Kwan was very calm. 1178 01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,880 In fact, he was calm throughout the whole court proceedings. 1179 01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:46,280 The judge jailed him for 31 years and five months 1180 01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:50,960 and told him, "You won't be out of jail until you're in your 70s." 1181 01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,440 The judge reflected in her comments that Thomas Kwan, 1182 01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:57,760 it wasn't just about the money for him, 1183 01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:01,160 it was about the money to which he felt entitled, 1184 01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,960 and that he was prepared to kill to get that money. 1185 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,440 We were waiting on the afternoon for his sentencing. 1186 01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:11,960 I wouldn't think I'd have a neighbour 1187 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,000 that was capable of planning murder on somebody, 1188 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:16,360 especially a doctor. 1189 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:20,880 He did all of this stuff, you know, to harm his mother's partner, 1190 01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,280 and it just doesn't make sense. 1191 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,200 We're quite shocked he got 31 years, 1192 01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,440 but then, when you think he was a doctor, 1193 01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:33,600 and the long planning that he's done, for murder, 1194 01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:35,760 that's why he got so long. 1195 01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:42,040 The outcome of this case was the culmination of months of hard work 1196 01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,360 between the Crown Prosecution Service 1197 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:45,880 and Northumbria Police. 1198 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:49,200 And I'm pleased that we were able to deliver justice for Patrick. 1199 01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:52,640 Obviously, this year has been horrendous 1200 01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,960 and I would hope it would never happen to anybody else. 1201 01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,280 And at the moment, I'm still recovering, 1202 01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:02,560 especially from the post trauma - that was really bad - 1203 01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:07,800 and er... I'm just, er, seeing a psychologist and everything else 1204 01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,120 to try to get through all this trauma. 1205 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,480 In 31 years, he might be really old, 1206 01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:19,600 but still get out and have a little bit of a life left, if he's lucky. 1207 01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,920 Thomas Kwan was a medical doctor, people trusted him, 1208 01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:29,080 and he has abused that trust 1209 01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:32,000 and undermined the trust that we all have 1210 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,480 in our doctors, nurses, medical staff. 1211 01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,440 And the fact that he used the identity 1212 01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,800 of Raj Patel, a community nurse, 1213 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,600 chipped away at that trust and confidence. 1214 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:45,000 And I do feel that that has had a part to play in his sentencing 1215 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:48,760 because he used his medical prowess, his knowledge, 1216 01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,640 he used all of the information that he had to hand 1217 01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,000 to commit his crimes. 1218 01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,840 So his background and his knowledge 1219 01:05:55,880 --> 01:06:00,200 were part and parcel of the way that he was able to plan, 1220 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,360 and the way that he was able to actually commit this crime. 1221 01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:08,440 I've covered many, many big stories, nationally and locally. 1222 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:13,400 Dr Kwan is gonna be one of them that I'll never forget. 1223 01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:14,920 You know, the lengths that he went to 1224 01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:19,160 to try and get away with what he did is unimaginable. 1225 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,880 So, following the sentencing, his wife spoke to the media, 1226 01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:36,400 and she gave what was quite an extraordinary statement, really. 1227 01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,520 "I can't find a man to compare to Tom. 1228 01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:40,520 "In his heart, he is very, very good. 1229 01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,440 "I don't blame him, I love him, trust him, 1230 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,760 "and will be here for him until the end. 1231 01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:47,840 "I'm going to be buried alongside him. 1232 01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,760 "Our son goes with me to prison to see Tom. 1233 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,840 "I tell him everything and I hope he will understand his dad." 1234 01:06:55,760 --> 01:07:01,360 She said, "He felt very lonely and helpless all his life. 1235 01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,600 "He was looking for his mother's love and never found it. 1236 01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:09,120 "He always believed that she loved others more than her own child." 1237 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:13,200 I'm not sure she necessarily believes 1238 01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:19,120 that he's innocent of what he ultimately admitted to, 1239 01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,240 but I think she thinks, like he does, 1240 01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:24,560 that this was his mother's fault. 1241 01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:29,960 She vows to stand by him. Only time will tell if she does. 1242 01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:35,080 A question that I ask myself is, had Kwan not been caught, 1243 01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:37,520 could he have gone on to kill somebody else? 1244 01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,280 I don't think he's capable of extreme violence, 1245 01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,080 so I don't think he's physically dangerous, 1246 01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:45,440 but absolutely, I think he lacks the moral boundaries, the empathy, 1247 01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,680 which would allow him to do something clandestine and secret 1248 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:50,400 like poisoning. 1249 01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,880 How could someone who had gone through medical school, 1250 01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,280 who'd spent all that time working as a GP, 1251 01:07:56,320 --> 01:08:00,880 flip, and go from being one of the guys helping people 1252 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,440 to someone trying to harm someone? 1253 01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:09,760 There's no case in my career in the CPS that's comparable to this. 1254 01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,600 The lengths Thomas Kwan went to to commit this offence 1255 01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:17,320 and to try and hide his offending were unparalleled. 1256 01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,880 Donning a disguise such that he fooled his own mother 1257 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,400 as to who it was who was in her address, 1258 01:08:23,440 --> 01:08:25,040 is something I've not seen before, 1259 01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,160 and I very much doubt I'll see it again. 101713

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