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Hi, I'm Brian Thompson,
CEO of UnitedHealthcare.

He could have done a lot of
good in this world.

Talented, very bright.

I knew Brian.
Tragic.

[Kelly] And he was taken
way too soon.

[school principal]
Luigi Nicholas Mangione.

He was brilliant,
valedictorian, and well-liked.

[Joseph] He suffers
a life-changing injury

during a surfing accident.

[Casey] And it seems he has
an enemy in his crosshairs,

and it is
the insurance industry.

[Dan] And on the morning of
December 4th,

based on everything
we know from law enforcement,

it seems the paths of these
two former valedictorians

were about to cross.

Earlier this morning, members
of the Altoona Police Department

arrested Luigi Mangione

in the brazen, targeted murder
of Brian Thompson.

[protesters chanting]
Free Luigi! Free Luigi!

As soon as he was arrested,
Luigi Mangione

became a hero to many.

Young women are writing him
letters and throwing him kisses.

[court official]
Guilty or not guilty?

Not guilty.

[Dan] Of course,
the question now becomes,

who is Luigi Mangione?

[dramatic chord strike]

- [traffic noise]
- [clock ticking]

[Dan] At 6:45 in the morning,
there are not a lot of people

in Midtown,
so it leaves an opportunity

for someone to
spot someone pretty easily.

[Philip] Somebody that runs a
multibillion-dollar corporation

and no one's protecting him?

I think that is just
the biggest mistake I've seen

in the corporate
security world.

[single gunshot blasts]

Good morning, everyone.

In Midtown Manhattan,
early this morning,

50-year-old Brian Thompson,
the CEO of UnitedHealthcare,

was shot and killed in what
appears, at this early stage

of our investigation,
to be a brazen targeted attack.

[reporter] The flags outside
UnitedHealthcare in Minnetonka

are at half-staff today,
as the healthcare insurance

giant mourns the death
of one of their own.

[Kelly] I called them
the "Leave it to Beaver" family.

They were always walking in,
dressed-- dressed nicely,

good-looking family,
a family I envied and hoped

and idolized because
they were just wonderful people.

So outrageous that, you know,
a businessman would be

gunned down in the street.

I haven't seen
anything like that.

Was it a personal vendetta?
Would it be a mob hit?

Did he owe people money?

Once the news broke that
the killer had inscribed those

bullet shell casings with
a magic marker with words,

"delay, deny, depose,"

that really
narrowed down the motive.

They're the mantra of
the insurance industry

for how you make money.

Deny the claims, defend them,
depose anybody who tries to

continue their claim
against you.

So once we knew that,
it was clear this person

was a mission-oriented killer.

We want to begin with the
intense search for the gunman.

A gunman is still on the loose.

A shocking murder getting
national attention tonight.

We have upped the reward
up to $10,000 for information.

We had gotten to a point
where we felt that, um,

we needed the public's help,
and that's why we released

the photograph and the video.

We have him from the shooting
scene fleeing back uptown.

[Casey] We had him
in a taxi cab.

We also had
a clear vision of his face

at the hostel
where he was staying--
those two clear photos

of his face were what alerted
the customers and employees

at that McDonald's in
Altoona, Pennsylvania.

The minute that they
saw him in the corner

eating his hash browns,
they called police.

Earlier this morning in
Altoona, Pennsylvania,

members of
the Altoona Police Department

arrested Luigi Mangione,
a 26-year-old male.

We've recovered five
fingerprints that match

our suspect from the water
bottle that was recovered.

We have two fingerprints
from a energy bar wrapper.

The same fraudulent
New Jersey driver's license

that he presented as
identification at the hostel

was the same identification
that he presented

to the Altoona police officer
at that McDonald's.

[Casey] As Luigi Mangione
is being led into the courthouse

for his first appearance,
it's almost like his world

crumbles in front of us.

[man]
Luigi, did you do it?

He's shouting, and he's angry.

We, for the first time,
see raw emotion on his face.

[reporter]
Luigi Mangione.

- Luigi Mangione.
- Luigi Mangione.

Of course, the question is,
who is this guy?

[crew member] OK, whenever
you guys are ready-- OK.

We are on High Street,
which is the restaurant row

of Little Italy.

You leave Little Italy,

but Little Italy
never leaves you.

The Mangione family,
what more can I say?

I've known the family
for at least 50 years.

They are, like, probably
one of the most respected,

if not the most, respected
family in the Italian community.

What a good-looking family.

I don't know about
this whole situation here.

It doesn't make sense.
There's something wrong here.

[Joe] They've got a big house
on the golf course.

[crew member]
All right, speeding.

I'm very close to
his mom's side.

They're from the same
neighborhood that we are.

Just, he looked
like a Mangione,

and bright
and cheerful and smiley,

and you knew
who he was right away.

Shook my head.

This can't be happening.

[Giovanna] They were generous
with their money.

They've given a lot
to churches,

more than one hospital,
GBMC, they would just do it

without expecting
anything back.

They are the epitome
of the American dream.

[Casey] He is born into
this life of privilege.

Going back through
his Reddit postings,

he seems to feel
a little bit guilty about it.

I remember one time as a young
child, playing with friends,

fantasizing, we each sketched
our ideal dream home.

Everyone else drew
intricate mansions.

I sketched the floor plan of
a small, square house.

They thought I was weird.

I thought their mansions
were full of lots of bullshit.

[Casey] Clearly, one of
the best clues

that we're going to
have about the psychology

and the background
of Luigi Mangione

is his social media.

I contracted Lyme
when I was 13

and started noticing mild
cognitive declines
when I was 15.

My symptoms
were very minor at first.

I was able to excel
in high school.

[Giovanna] He went to
high school at the Gilman

High School, and that is
a top-notch school.

And obviously he was brilliant.

[school principal]
Luigi Nicholas Mangione.

[Giovanna] And well-liked
and an honor student, valedictorian.

The class of 2016 is truly
defined by its inventive,

pioneering mentality that
accompanies a strong commitment

to Gilman tradition.

Throughout its time
here at Gilman,

the class of 2016 has been
coming up with new ideas

and challenging the world
around it.

To achieve what he did in such
a prestigious school that

he went to, it was a great
accomplishment, and I was,

we're all so proud of him.

We're all so proud of him.

As I conclude my speech,

I have to remember that
a valedictory, by definition,
is a farewell.

It's been an incredible
journey, and I simply

can't imagine the last few years
with any other group of guys.

Thank you.

- [clapping]
- [speaking indistinctly]

[Giovanna] And he also had
enough smarts

to get into
the University of Pennsylvania.

It's like, you don't,

you don't have to brag
when that happens.

It speaks for itself.

[actor as Luigi]
I'm an undergraduate,
pursuing a degree

in computer science,

and I'm very interested
in bioinformatics.

I knew he was headed toward,
like, the engineering.
He was good in math.

Both his parents
are so smart,

both college graduates.

[Casey] We know
from his writings

that even during college,

he still struggled
with maladies and pain

and sleeplessness.

[actor as Luigi]
Basically, I'm in bed
for eight hours every night,

and I wake up
feeling unrefreshed,

no matter how much
sleep I get.

But imagine that
in your early 20s,

no matter how much
money you have,

suddenly you're experiencing
a lapse in brain cognition.

He refers to a brain fog.

[actor as Luigi]
The symptoms worsened
exponentially last year

after my fraternity's
very tame hell week.

I simply wasn't able to recover
from a week of disturbed sleep.

It's absolutely brutal to have
such a life-halting issue,

especially since the issue
itself wears down the critical,

logical thinking mind you'd
usually use to tackle it.

I used to play chess daily
against my roommate.

I used it as a metric to see how
the brain fog was improving.

Eventually, I just stopped,

since I could never
remember any strategy.

He would use the same moves
against me, day after day,

and I just wouldn't
remember them.

The brain fog becomes
almost an obsession with

Luigi Mangione,
because it's something that

he can't overcome,
no matter how wealthy he is.

[actor as Luigi]
The people around you probably
won't understand your symptoms.

They certainly don't for me.

As each test
comes back negative,

the doctors won't have
a [bleep] clue what's going on.

[Giovanna] I don't know
what happened.

There was some type
of a change.

Something happened to his mind.

[woman on radio]
Person possibly shot
in front of the Hilton Hotel.

In criminology, we very often
conduct, after a horrific crime,

what we call a psychological,
or reverse, autopsy.

We try to reconstruct
the psychology of our suspect,

working backwards
so that we understand

the trajectory of events.

[Dorian] I met Luigi,
it was latter part of 2022.

[crew member] And mark.

My name's Dorian Wright,
and I am a yoga instructor

and a studio owner.

He was just like a normal,

happy-go-lucky
kind of 26-year-old guy.

I don't know what would
motivate someone like that,

you know,
to do something like that.

So, I created a co-living space
in Honolulu during COVID,

and he applied to be a member.

He was excited
to move to Hawaii.

He wanted to focus on
his health, and he was looking

to make new friends.

It's incomprehensible that
the person I knew

and was friends with
could assassinate somebody.

[Dorian] When I looked at Luigi,
I didn't see anything

out of the ordinary.

He was quite tall and very fit.

Every time
he walked in, yeah,

all the women
would look at him.

So, yeah, he was
a head-turner for the women,

and even one of our teachers
matched with him on Tinder.

[Joseph] It appears he suffers
a life-changing injury

during a surfing accident that
caused him a severe back injury,

and that's what may have
put him on this path.

[actor as Luigi] Started when
I first aggravated my spondy

one and a half years ago
after surfing.

Yeah, spondy is a bony defect
in the back part of the spine.

This piece of bone in the back
that's normally attached
to the spine

is not attached to the spine.

[actor as Luigi]
My back and hips locked up
after the accident,

and my whole lumbar/hips
have been out of whack since.

Bladder and genital pain for
the last year, on and off.

Luigi is typical of every
patient in my practice.

You're bounced around
the medical system,

nobody's telling you
what is going on.

The repeatedly dashing hope
induces depression.

[actor as Luigi]
It was completely devastating
as a young athletic person.

Seemingly, all I could read
on the internet was that

I was destined to
chronic pain and a desk job

for the rest of my life.

It was one of those interesting
injuries where, you know,

one day he could perhaps
be athletic and do something,

and then the next day just
immobile and stuck in bed.

I knew he had to go home,
back to the East Coast,

for a surgery.

[actor as Luigi]
I had surgery two weeks ago
because I had nerve issues.

He sent me some images of
his x-rays postsurgery there

that just make you cringe,

three-, four-inch screws
into somebody's spine.

[actor as Luigi]
Surgery was painful for
the first couple of days,

but I was shocked that by day
seven, I was on literally

zero pain meds.

Obviously will be awhile until
I get into rigorous activity,

but it was way less a big deal
than I had anticipated.

[Casey] In his
Reddit discussions

about his own back surgery,

someone else responds,

and immediately Luigi starts
to coach this person

on how to get
the surgery done.

[actor as Luigi]
Keep trying different surgeons.

Tell them you are
unable to work, do your job.

We live in
a capitalist society.

I found that the medical
industry responds to

these keywords far more
urgently than you describing
unbearable pain

and how it's impacting
your quality of life.

And this is the first time
in this back and forth about

the back surgery where
Luigi states in social media,

"We live in
a capitalistic society."

And it's a condemnation.

[suspenseful music builds]

[Casey] After his surgery,
Luigi seems to go on

a pilgrimage,
if you will, to Asia,

and enjoy and embrace
a persona of the backpacker.

[actor as Luigi]
In high school, I was fascinated

with the idea of
living out of a tin can.

Well, not living that way,

but being able to survive in
the wild using nothing more than

a survival kit small enough
to fit in an Altoids can.

And it's a good reminder that
we're able to go long periods

without needing many things.

[Casey] Remember, he has
always had every advantage,

but now he wants to see
how little he can live on.

[actor as Luigi]
I suppose I've always been
hyper obsessed with efficiency,

and I've never
been materialistic.

Those traits have persisted
into adulthood.

They are why
I became an engineer.

In early 2024, Luigi Mangione

pops up again, and this time
with a review on Goodreads

of the Ted Kaczynski manifesto.

[Dan] Ted Kaczynski
was known as the Unabomber,

who had created fear for years
by sending packages

that had bombs
in them to various people

that he thought were
part of the societal problem.

Luigi wrote a very
positive review

of the Kaczynski Manifesto.

[actor as Luigi]
It's easy to quickly
and thoughtless write this off

as the manifesto of a lunatic

in order to avoid facing some of
the uncomfortable problems
it identifies.

He was a violent individual,
rightfully imprisoned,

who maimed innocent people.

While these actions tend
to be characterized as those

of a crazy Luddite, however,
they are more accurately seen

as those of an extreme

political revolutionary.

There are gonna be
some people who are gonna say,

"Why are you even
amplifying this guy's views?"

And from a law enforcement
perspective,

they're going to wanna know

as much as they can
about the alleged killer,

including why
he may have done it.

[actor as Luigi]
A take I found online
that I think is interesting,

"Peaceful protest
is outright ignored,

"economic protest isn't possible
in the current system,

"so how long until we recognize
that violence against those

"who lead us to destruction
is justified as self-defense?

"'Violence never solved
anything' is a statement uttered

by cowards and predators."

It will be just 10 months
from the time of that review

that he gets a gun
and allegedly takes action.

[Gurwinder] Luigi reached out
to me via email.

He was in Japan at the time,

and he said he was
a longtime fan of my work.

So one of...

the articles that most resonated
with Luigi was an article

that I'd written called

"Why Everything is
Becoming a Game,"

in order to
addict people to them.

And he had bought a $200
founding membership to my blog.

So, in May, we had
a video call.

I remember that
as soon as I saw him,

he gave me a big smile,
and he was very enthusiastic.

He described Japanese culture
as "peak NPC-ville."

NPC is a meme online, which
means non-player character.

And it's a term
that's been borrowed from

Dungeons & Dragons,
and it refers to

characters in fictional worlds

that are not controlled
by players,

but are controlled by

a computer program
or by the Dungeon Master.

He believed people
were increasingly living

automated lives.

It was a big concern of his.

I got the sense
that maybe he

felt the lack of
social connection himself,

that the people around him were

not on the same
wavelength as him.

I followed up March,
April, May, each month,

just a text message
checking in, saying,

"Hey, bro, how you doing?
What's going on?"

And didn't hear from him.

He didn't interact with any of
my writing after June the 10th.

So it was the last time
he was there.

He seems to have not interacted
with really anybody else.

He seemed to have just sort of

gone dark, mostly,
after that period.

[Casey] Six months,
no one had heard from him.

His friends,
his family, his parents.

[Giovanna]
He isolated himself,

and there was no one
there to guide him.

And then, you know,
your mind goes off.

[Casey] And in his valedictorian
speech, he thanks the parents.

Thank you for all
the time and love

you've put into our lives.

You've instilled values in us,
fed and clothed us,

and simply been there for us
every step of the way.

[Casey] So fast-forward
to the age of 25, 26,

he's not communicating
with his parents.

He's shut them out.

Perhaps, in his mind,
his family had become the enemy

because they were capitalists.

They were incredibly wealthy.

Cutting off communication with
his parents was the only way

to keep these magical ideas
in full float in his brain.

His parents would've
been a reality check.

[Joseph] The shooter's mother
had reported him missing

in San Francisco back on
November 18th of 2024.

In my view, the fact that even
his mother didn't know

where he was would seem
to indicate he really had made

a big decision to
prepare for this incident.

[actor as Luigi]
To the Feds, I'll keep this
short, because I do respect

what you do for our country.

And police say
he even laid out his plans

in a short letter to the Feds
and a spiral notebook,

both of which were found on him
at the time he was arrested.

[actor as Luigi]

[Dan] It's not necessarily easy
to know exactly where

a CEO will be
at a particular time.

The fact that this conference
was on the internet,

with the dates and the times,

allowed him to plot this

in exactly the way
that he had wanted.

[actor as Luigi]

Seemingly appreciating
that they are letting him know

exactly where
Brian Thompson's going to be.

[Kelly] When I first heard
the news, I was in disbelief.

It couldn't be
the same Brian Thompson.

It-- it just couldn't be.

I remember him
as a cute little kid.

I'm very good friends
with his mother, Pat.

It's a heartbreak.

We are fortunate enough
to know him so well

that the memories
we have of him are very joyful.

He was very talented,
very bright individual,

funny, had a sense of humor,

enjoyed life.

We have what's called
Watermelon Day,

our annual celebration,
where we serve free watermelon.

We have a parade
in the morning,

and his mom is-- was known
as the ticket lady,

so the Thompsons were
well-known for Watermelon Day.

[Dan] Brian Thompson
was also a valedictorian.

He was also an overachiever.

One of his classmates
and his best friend said,

"He's probably
the smartest kid in our class

and the smartest kid
I've ever known."

Went to University of Iowa,

did very well
in the business classes.

It's not easy,
coming from a small town.

I kind of knew
he was bound for great things.

[Dan] And ultimately
made his way

to becoming the CEO

of a major
healthcare division.

Hi, I'm Brian Thompson,
CEO of UnitedHealthcare.

[Wendell] Brian Thompson did
climb the corporate ladder

very successfully and relatively
quickly at United.

[crew member]
Wendell interview take one.
Mark.

[clapperboard claps]

[Wendell] I was in
the industry for 20 years,

and I'm not the industry's
favorite person.

I think as we look over
the long term of this

three-year period,
it's important.

Brian Thompson helped
that company, uh,

become very, very profitable
and to be a Wall Street darling

for much of his tenure.

[actor as Luigi]

[Joseph] We have no indication
that he was ever a client

of UnitedHealthcare,
but he does make mention

that it is the fifth-largest
corporation in America,

which that's possibly why he
targeted that-- that company.

[Wendell] Once a year,

the executives
go to New York City.

They stage this
half-day program.

It's kind of like
a dog and pony show

in which the executives
tell investors

this is what our plans are
for "profitable growth."

In the simplest sense,
we're helping to accelerate

the transition
from volume to value.

Just curious in terms of how
that drives your thinking...

That's a great question, Scott.
So maybe, Brian, if you
might like to start.

And Brian Thompson
was always very accomplished,

very well-spoken, very adept
at answering their questions.

Certainly, from this vantage
point, I feel very good about

the benefits that we've put
in the marketplace,

the pricing, et cetera.

So I feel really good about
where we're positioned.

[suspenseful music playing]

[Wendell] During the time that
Brian Thompson was CEO

of UnitedHealthcare,
a study of companies and their

denial rates showed
that UnitedHealthcare

was at the top, if not the top,
in terms of refusing or denying

coverage for treatments
that patients needed.

And it's an example of what
that company in particular

has been doing to satisfy

Wall Street's
profit expectations.

[reporter] More than
150 people protested

at UnitedHealthcare
headquarters today,

nearly a dozen
left in handcuffs.

[protesters chanting]

[reporter] The organizers want
United to stop denying claims.

I am a UnitedHealthcare Medicare
disadvantaged member.

[Yolanda] I needed a surgery
in January, a hysterectomy.

And roughly two days before
the scheduled surgery,

I received a denial
from UnitedHealthcare.

I was informed that the reason
for the denial was that

the surgery was perceived
as not medically necessary.

It was infuriating,
it was frustrating.

We're making it easier
for customers and consumers

to get the most
out of their benefits.

[Yolanda] And I was frankly
at a loss.

I didn't see a way forward.

My surgeon did fight
for me, though.

I was able to have it as
scheduled, but I did not know

until the day before.

United wouldn't do
what they did

if there were consequences
for their behavior.

We want the system to work
better for everyone.

[Wendell] The subtext of that,
of what he was saying, is that,

yeah, it would be great if you,
if they could figure out

how to make the system work
for all the stakeholders.

It's just simply not possible

because if you are making
the system work better

and more smoothly for people
enrolled in your health plans,

that means there's not
as much money left over

to reward shareholders.

[Dan] At the time, there were
reports that Brian Thompson

was under investigation
for possible insider trading.

He reportedly is one
of the executives,

and there's several that did
share sales two weeks

before it was revealed that
there was an antitrust

investigation launched by
the DOJ into the company.

[reporter] He and multiple other
UnitedHealth executives are

accused of offloading something
like 15 million shares of stock

before the probe was announced.

Of course, once that
investigation by the DOJ was

announced, the stock
then plummeted.

[actor as Luigi]

He refers to healthcare
companies as the mafioso.

He is clearly...

writing this for
public consumption.

[Casey] So Luigi Mangione seems
to go on a mission.

He has an enemy
in his crosshairs,

and it is
the insurance industry.

[Dan] And on the morning
of December 4th,

based on everything we know
from law enforcement,

it seems the paths of these
two former valedictorians

were about to cross.

[actor as Luigi] I do apologize
for any strife or traumas,

but it had to be done.

Frankly, these parasites
had it coming.

We know that when he first
arrived in New York City

at the end of November,
he visited that hotel.

He definitely was
casing the area.

The morning of the incident
itself, we know that he

was at the hotel an hour prior.

As of right now,
we think he acted alone.

[actor as Luigi]

[Joseph] He had over $5,000
worth of cash on him
in $100 bills.

He paid everything in cash.

[actor as Luigi]

[Casey] CAD, which is
computer aided design software,

to get a 3D ghost gun printed.

[Joseph]
It's a semi-automatic pistol.

It had a suppressor on it that
was also built on a 3D printer.

Every time he fired,
the gun would jam.

So he would have to clear
the malfunction to shoot again.

The recovered shell casings
that we had at the scene

matched that gun.

[actor as Luigi]

He also discusses the contrast
on whether or not using a bomb

to make his statement or to
just kill the CEO by himself.

He states that if he used
a bomb, that potentially

he might hurt
some innocent people,

and that would
take away from his message.

[actor as Luigi]

[Casey]
Rosenthal is a New York Times
writer who has written

extensively about the maladies
of the insurance industry.

Michael Moore, the very famous

documentary maker,
with his documentary "Sicko."

The intent is to
maximize profits.

[man] You denied
more people health care.

You got a bonus.

When you don't
spend money on somebody,

it's a savings to the company.

[actor as Luigi]
It's not an issue of awareness
at this point,

but clearly,
power games at play.

Evidently, I am
the first to face it

with such brutal honesty.

[Casey] There seems to be
a tremendous amount

of narcissism going on
with Luigi Mangione.

You know, here I am.

I am so smart.
I did this for a reason.

It had to be done, and I am
the only person smart enough

and brave enough to do it.

[Dan] I think some people
forget how...

cold-blooded this was.

This is a guy who was
shot in the back.

One might've expected this
accused murderer wanted to say

something to Brian Thompson
before killing him, you know,

"You dirty rat, you-- you know,
you're responsible

for the deaths of millions,"
et cetera.

But he didn't do that.

[Philip]
It's the lone wolf theory.

That's what we fear
the most is the lone wolf,

where he doesn't
tell anybody what he's doing.

He travels by himself,
he keeps a very low profile.

And he tracks down his prey
and does his thing.

[broadcaster] Luigi Mangione,
the man accused of killing

UnitedHealthcare CEO
Brian Thompson,

is now in New York City

after waiving extradition
from Pennsylvania.

Several police officers and even

the mayor of New York,
Eric Adams,

accompanied Mangione.

[Eric]
We're seeing the radicalization
of our young people.

We're seeing our young people
believing that the answer to

a problem is by using violence,

and I think it is
the wrong way to go.

[broadcaster] Mangione is facing
several charges,

including first-degree murder
and furtherance of terrorism

and unlawful possession
of a ghost gun.

[court official]
Charging the crime of murder
in the first degree

and other related charges.

How do you plead
to this indictment, sir,

guilty or not guilty?

[Casey]
He leans into the microphone
to say the words clearly.

Not guilty.

"Not guilty"-- with
a level of confidence.

Just... he's unperturbed
by the whole process.

Like, "This is beneath me,

"I'm sorry, yes,
I have to show up,

"and I have to
go through all of this.

"But time will tell.

You will see this
was necessary."

I'm very concerned about

my client's right
to a fair trial in this case.

He's being prejudiced

by some statements
that are being made

by government officials.

He's a young man,

and he is being treated like
a human Ping-Pong ball,

like some sort of
political fodder,

like some sort of spectacle.

He was on display for everyone
to see in the biggest staged

perp walk I've ever seen
in my career.

It was absolutely unnecessary.

This has to stop, and we're
gonna fight these charges,

whether it's in
the state or federal,

to the fullest extent.

Thank you, Your Honor.

[Dan] It sure seems to me
his defense is not going to be,

"I didn't do it."

He could try insanity,

but I don't think
he's going to.

I think he would refuse.

That would undermine
his entire cause.

But as a practical matter,
the defense is likely gonna

focus all on jury selection,
trying to find people who will

sympathize or at
least understand

why Luigi Mangione
allegedly did what he did.

[protesters chanting]
Free Luigi. Free Luigi.

[reporter] Well, reaction to
Thompson's death has been swift

from people across
the state and the country.

I knew Brian, um...

tragic.

Brian was a wonderful person
with a big heart

and who lived life
to the fullest.

Our hearts are broken,
and we are completely

devastated by this news.

He touched so many lives.

I just want people
to know that this

was a young boy who worked
hard to be successful.

He could have done
a lot of good in this world,

and he was taken way too soon.

[somber music playing]

[Dan] But Brian Thompson
became completely

forgotten as a person.

He became the representative
for the healthcare industry

that deserved to die.

Luigi Mangione dropped--

[audience cheering]

Yeah.

Luigi Mangione got
a stunning amount of support.

Luigi Mangione, the suspect

in the shooting of the CEO
of UnitedHealthcare,

who's become the hottest
cold-blooded killer in America.

I'm not sure what
this says about us.

Luigi Mangione was being
treated as some sort of hero.

[radio caller] From what
I know now, I'd say, yes, he is.

- [Dan] Seriously?
- [radio caller] We'll see what
the end outcome is.

- [Dan] You really think as a--
- [radio caller] Absolutely.

[Dan] He's accused of murder,
and he's a hero.

[radio caller] Absolutely.

[Dan] I host a call-in radio
show, and when I talked about

the fact that it is abhorrent

that people are trying
to defend him,

almost every caller

called in to yell at me.

[radio caller] Well, what
I got is, I guess you guys

just missed the real news

and the fact that there's
tens of thousands of people

that are dying every year
because of this damn greed.

- [Dan] So that justifies--
- [radio caller] It's gonna
happen even more.

And I guarantee you won't find

a unanimous jury
to convict this guy-- why?

Because he doesn't
[bleep] deserve it.

I think it is shameful

to somehow blame
Brian Thompson

for his own murder.

And that is what a lot of
people are doing.

♪ CEOs come and go
and one just went ♪

♪ The ingredients you gotta
bake the cake you get, but ♪

People wanted somebody
to scapegoat.

They found it in Brian Thompson,
because he was the CEO

of the largest health
insurance company in the US.

♪ There ain't no you
in UnitedHealth ♪

♪ There ain't no me
in the company ♪

[Gurwinder] And so they
naturally saw a young man

like Luigi, who's a very
handsome guy.

He's very charismatic.

He allegedly committed his
crime in a very spectacular way,

so of course there were
gonna be people who would

see him as a folk hero.

♪ Hey there Luigi
you put bullets into Brian ♪

It was immediately clear to me
why someone might have wanted

to kill this guy.

The December 4th legal
committee wanted to give

a voice to all the people
and the anger that they felt.

One $20 donor writes,

"NYPD officer here, we're
rooting for you behind
the scenes."

And then he goes on to describe
a loved one who passed away

after insurance claims
were denied.

One doctor
who donated says, quote,

"I applaud Luigi for his
courage, heart, and passion."

A nurse who donated $100 calls
Luigi "a soldier of the people.

If anyone deserves
a badge of honor, it is you."

I don't think it's possible
to be the CEO

of a for-profit
health insurance company

and not have
blood on your hands.

[Yolanda] I understand
the cord that was struck.

Just hearing the difficulties
that others had...

prompted me to share.

The part about me not
feeling sad is thinking about

the role

and the position
and what that did.

I know that the CEO is not
the person who looks at,

you know, individual claims,
and yet there's policy there

that had significant
consequences for the lives

of thousands of people
and their families.

[Casey] Sometimes we talk about
the "Robin Hood" syndrome,

This is off the charts.

[protesters chanting]
Free Luigi. Free Luigi.

[Casey] People are donating
to his defense fund,

even though he doesn't
need any extra money.

Young women
are writing him letters

and throwing him kisses.

♪ Taking a chance
'cause I like you a lot ♪

♪ So I'll give it a shot
give it all that I got ♪

♪ La-dee-da-dee-da
la-dee-da-dee-dee suddenly ♪

[Giovanna] They're trying
to make him a hero.

No one is a hero
that has to use this kind of

means to get a point across.

[Gurwinder] The thing is, is
people aren't talking about

the US healthcare system.

People are talking about Luigi.

He's become a meme.
People are focusing on Luigi.

Although he had this hatred
of posturing, it does feel like

an act of posturing.

By killing,
allegedly, again,

by allegedly killing
Brian Thompson,

he's not going to fix

the healthcare system
in the US.

It's just not gonna happen.

[Gurwinder] I think
he was intelligent,

and he was somebody who
genuinely wanted to help people.

And so it's just a great waste.

Nothing good has come of this.

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