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ALICE ROBERTS: The Aegean Sea and
its collection of beautiful islands
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are framed by the coastlines
of mainland Greece and Turkey.
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Millions of tourists of all
nationalities come here every year.
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3,000 years ago,
it was just as popular.
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The ports of the Aegean would
have been crammed with families,
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workers, soldiers and kings,
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travelling for trade and to fight.
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The cities of ancient Greece
were often at war with each other.
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I want to find out more about this
vast and complicated civilisation,
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to dig out the real stories
behind the myths.
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And I'm not just going
to the well-known tourist spots.
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Of course not.
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I'm headed off the beaten track.
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I'm Alice Roberts,
and I'm travelling hundreds of miles
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through what is now
Greece and Turkey,
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looking into the flowering
of classical civilisation,
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from ancient Greece to the Romans...
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Oh, my goodness!
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That's wonderful.
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..to discover
this region's vital role
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as the birthplace of Plato,
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Socrates and Alexander the Great,
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mythology, theatre and democracy.
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(SPEAKS GREEK)
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Taking the train is such
a brilliant way to explore a country.
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I love finding
quirky rural stations...
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..and then seeing
how the landscape gradually changes.
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(HORN HONKS)
(MAN SPEAKS GREEK)
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ALICE: I started my journey
in Thessaloniki,
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and from there,
I took the train
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to the historic
sites at Vergina
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and Delphi,
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home of the oracle
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and the temples of Apollo
and Athena.
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Today, I'm on a 90-minute
train journey
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from Livadia
to the Greek capital.
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Heading away from those lovely
mountains and the temple of Athena.
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But I'm now on my way
to the city that bears her name -
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Athens itself.
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Halfway to Athens, and Delphi
is very much still on my mind.
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It's such
a stunning mountainside city,
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with incredible examples
of precious ancient architecture
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and thousands of tourists.
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It's such a difficult balance
to strike,
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making these sites accessible to the
public while protecting the heritage.
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It's a hot topic in Greece
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and one I hope to discuss
with the Greek Minister of Culture.
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Arriving
into the metropolis of Athens
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and new renovation at the station
reminds you
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of the depth of history here.
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As they work
to build two new platforms,
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every scoop of earth
is monitored by archaeologists.
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Athens is an ancient city
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with a history dating back
thousands of years.
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It's had a huge influence
on Western civilisation
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in everything from art and science
to philosophy and politics.
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My first meeting, though, is some
distance away, in the Pentelic Hills,
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just 15 minutes from the city centre.
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These small mountains
are all part of the...Mount Penteli,
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which is the source of
the famous, famous Pentelic marble,
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the beautiful white marble
that was used to build the Parthenon
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on the Acropolis,
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and as you can see,
the quarries are still busy today.
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Alongside this road
is an archaeological site
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rarely visited by tourists.
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I'm heading
to the sanctuary of Dionysos,
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that dates to the 8th century BCE.
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I'm meeting Niki,
who's spent years researching here
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and has a fascinating theory about
the origins of theatre and democracy.
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Niki.
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Hello.
Hi.
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(SPEAKS GREEK)
(SPEAKS GREEK)
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Hello.
Tell me about this place, then.
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'Cause it's meant to be
the birthplace of theatre.
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NIKI: Yes, indeed.
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Uh, this is, uh,
the birthplace of, uh, Thespis.
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You may know of, uh,
the word 'thespian'.
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Uh, so, it comes from him.
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Thespis lived here.
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This is his home village.
Yeah.
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And, erm...
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..this village happened to have
a very important cult of Dionysos,
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the god of wine.
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So, Niki, where are we standing
right here, then?
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There's archaeology all around us.
Yes.
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So if you can notice,
there are these stone seats.
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This is, uh, certain,
that it was a small theatre.
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OK.
It's a local theatre.
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Well, so this is the stage here?
Yeah.
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We're standing on the stage?
More or less. Yes.
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Yeah.
More or less.
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So we have to think in terms
of, uh, small-scale activity,
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but of extreme importance,
because this is where it all began.
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Yeah, and is there...
there must be a settlement, then.
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There must be...
Yes, of course.
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There was a town around here?
Of course. There's a town.
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It's not...
it hasn't been excavated fully.
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Yeah.
Uh, only, erm...only this area.
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And you see the site also looks
kind of abandoned.
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ALICE: Legend has it
that Thespis invented theatre
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when he stepped away from a chorus of
dancers and singers to speak to them,
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and it somehow connected to the
Greek god Dionysos, the god of wine.
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NIKI: So you have to imagine
a group of revellers.
ALICE: Yep.
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Thespis jumped out of this little
crowd and addressed a question.
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And the group answered the
question.
Yeah.
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So this is a rudiment
of Greek theatre,
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the actor and the chorus.
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And the reason
why it is so important
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is because the actor
represents the individual...
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Yeah.
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..and the chorus
represents the collective.
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And it starts with a drunken dance.
A drunken dance. Absolutely.
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A drunken dance...
Yes.
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..gives birth to theatre.
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Yes.
This is brilliant.
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So...we shouldn't think of theatre
as secular, the way we do today.
Yeah.
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It was under the protection
of this very, very, uh,
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important god, Dionysos...
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Yeah, yeah.
..erm, who is a protector.
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That's all part
of the religious worship?
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Absolutely. Yes.
Yeah.
Yes, yes.
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ALICE: The site was first discovered
by a German archaeologist
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in the late 19th century
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and then excavated
by an American team.
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How do you know that Dionysos was...
was worshipped here?
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NIKI: Because right
where this big rectangular stone
is,
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we found
the archaic statue of Dionysos.
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And it's...it's...it's recognisable
as that particular god?
Yeah. Absolutely.
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Because he's holding,
uh, the kantharos, the drinking
cup.
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And, of course, there are, uh,
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always stylistic criteria to
recognise gods when you find the...
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ALICE: Yeah.
..statues...
ALICE: Yeah.
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..let alone the fact
that he's larger than...
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..than natural size, so...
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Yeah.
He's in the National Museum.
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I really recommend
that you visit him.
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So this is extraordinary.
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You've got a really wonderful
connection here between, uh...
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..between archaeology and history
AND mythology.
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Yes, yes.
It's all coming together.
Of course.
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ALICE: Niki has written extensively
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about the surprising link
between theatre and democracy.
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NIKI: When democracy was founded
a few years later,
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democracy, uh, utilised
this very important dialogue,
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between individuals
and collectives...
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Yeah.
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..as a f...a foundation
for tremendous intellectual growth
and political growth.
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And, um, what I found interesting,
looking at Hellenistic towns,
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actually, into...
into the Roman period,
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is that you have the...
the buildings, the architecture,
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kind of reflects that link,
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because you have
the buildings which are the...
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..uh, the odeon, or the bouleuterion,
like, where the town council sits,
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and it looks like a small theatre.
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Yes.
Yeah.
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I can show you this, erm,
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pillar here.
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It has been identified and read.
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Uh, it has letters here, as you
see.
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Uh...
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
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NIKI: Yes. Uh...
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ALICE: God, they're fairly subtle,
aren't they, underneath that lichen.
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Do we know how old this is?
Do you have any idea?
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NIKI: This, yes. Yes, yes, we do.
We know very well.
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It dates all the way from, uh,
the 4th century BCE.
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ALICE: OK.
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So you've got some letters on here.
Yes.
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What does this relate to? Is it...
is it readable? Is it legible?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was much more legible.
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They're the names of the sponsors.
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Oh, OK.
Yes.
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The patrons of the theatre...
Yeah, patrons.
..effectively.
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The patrons of the theatre here.
Held here.
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ALICE:
So the patrons get their names here.
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That's the important thing, isn't it?
NIKI: This is the important thing.
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You write it in stone.
You make sure everybody knows.
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Everybody knows.
Yeah.
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And then this gave you
a lot of, erm, social...
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Status.
..visibility...
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Yeah. Yeah.
..and status - exactly.
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ALICE: And then setting up a monument
to say, "I've done this."
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NIKI: Yes, yes, yes.
ALICE: Yeah.
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Does every village have a theatre?
We think so.
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This just happens to be
a very exceptional village,
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because it...it produced, uh...
uh, the...the birth of theatre.
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ALICE: So it means it becomes
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a really important central pillar
of Greek culture.
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NIKI: Absolutely. Yes. Yes.
ALICE: Yeah. Yeah.
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Well, Plato, uh, was, uh,
uh, annoyed by that.
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He talked about theatrokratia. Huh?
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Like we say demokratia?
Yeah.
Democracy?
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It's like the overpowering, uh...
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..uh, theatre, uh...
you know...addiction.
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Being ruled by theatre.
Yes, yes!
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Yeah.
Yes, yes.
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Did he go to the theatre, though?
Uh...
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Do you think he...
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We don't know if he went, but,
uh...
Yeah.
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..he must have.
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Uh...
He sounds a bit miserable, Plato,
I always think.
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He is a little bit.
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Yes. Uh, detached.
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Yeah.
And too intellectual.
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I like...
(LAUGHS)
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..I pref...I prefer Aristotle.
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(LAUGHS)
I think he'd have been more fun.
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I would have liked to have met him.
Yes.
Yeah.
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It would be nice to meet
any of them.
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Yeah, it would, wouldn't it?
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I'd like to meet
some of the playwrights, though.
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Yes.
Aristophanes.
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Oh, my God.
He'd have been a laugh.
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NIKI: He would have been a...
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..a real treat to meet.
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ALICE: Yeah.
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It's a...it's a very quiet
archaeological site.
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NIKI: Very. Very much so, yes.
ALICE: Yeah.
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Uh...
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..it would be nice if, uh,
more people knew about it.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
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If, as you say, this really is
the birthplace of theatre.
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Yeah.
It's an important place.
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Very much so, yes.
Yeah. Yeah.
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Back in the city centre of Athens,
and I'm in the district of Plaka,
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famous for its narrow,
winding streets, bars and cafes.
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Plaka sits
in the shadow of the Acropolis,
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which dominates the skyline.
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It seems a bit strange
to find a street here
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named after
the English romantic poet Byron.
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But he was here, in Athens,
200 years ago,
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and he was a champion of Greek
independence from the Ottoman Empire.
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He was also very critical
of the British diplomat Lord Elgin
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about removing marble sculptures
from the Parthenon
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and taking them back to Britain.
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It's a controversy that rumbles on
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and that
I want to understand more about.
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Hello.
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Are you gonna come and lie on my bag?
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(SPEAKS GREEK)
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(MAN SPEAKS GREEK)
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Mmm.
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Tomorrow, I'm going to look
at some very ancient inscriptions,
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which hold clues
to Athens's power and wealth.
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But for now, I'm just going to enjoy
the evening light with my new friend
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and raise a glass to Dionysos.
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(CAT PURRS)
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ALICE: I'm in Athens, looking for
evidence of this city's ancient past.
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Today, Athens has a population
of just over 3 million,
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but it brings in
twice as many visitors.
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Some six and a half million tourists
come here each year.
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I want to discover
what lies behind its success.
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Five metres below street level,
ancient Athens reveals itself.
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In the 1990s,
engineers extending the metro
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came face-to-face with
the engineering of their ancestors.
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Getting water into and out
of the growing city was a challenge,
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and amongst these remains
of ancient Athenian buildings
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are stone channels,
including a very large one,
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dating to the 5th century,
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called the Great Drain.
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One of the reasons
we know so much about ancient Greece
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is because of their obsession
with writing things down.
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Public notices, new laws and, as
I saw at the sanctuary of Dionysos,
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lists of patrons who funded the arts
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were all written on stone
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and have lasted thousands of years.
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There's a whole museum dedicated
just to inscriptions on stone
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in the city centre
north of the Acropolis.
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I'm meeting
the museum director, Dimos,
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who has a team of people still
working on conserving and decoding
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many of these texts.
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Dimos.
DIMOS: Hi.
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Good morning.
(SPEAKS GREEK)
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Oh. It's very nice you speak Greek.
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(LAUGHS) A little bit.
A very tiny bit.
OK.
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And I can read it a little bit
as well.
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Yes. This is very good. (LAUGHS)
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And...and it is good here, isn't it,
because it's all about...
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Yes, it's...
..inscriptions...
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..all about inscriptions
and all about writing.
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It was founded in 1886.
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It's a...a museum that has,
uh, Greek inscriptions, mainly,
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from 8th century to modern times.
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ALICE: Yeah, yeah.
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How many inscriptions
have you got here?
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14,000.
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14,000 inscrip...
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Have you read them all?
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Me personally?
Yeah.
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Not all.
Not all? (LAUGHS)
Not all.
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I know most of them, but...
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Yeah.
..I have not read them all.
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Do you hope to read them all?
Yes, of course.
Yeah?
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I have some years, you know...
Yeah, yeah.
..in front of me.
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So I have to read some inscriptions
that I have not read yet.
Yeah.
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So these inscriptions relate to
lots of different things.
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Some of them are decrees or...
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Decrees.
..uh, laws carved in stone.
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Some of them are...
Decrees. Laws.
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Uh...catalogues,
what we call catalogues, that
are...
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..uh, usually,
they catalogued many things.
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And they had, uh, many things
from the...
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..sacred place, from the temples.
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And I presume
that they're put up in...
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..uh, public places where...
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Yes, of course.
..where people can read them.
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Uh, Acropolis. Usually on
Acropolis.
Yeah.
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On Acropolis, it was fine,
it was written...
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(SPEAKS GREEK)
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"Put them on Acropolis."
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ALICE: Because when you look
at these inscriptions,
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there are no gaps between the words.
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DIMOS: Yes, of course.
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The way they were writing
had no gaps.
Yeah.
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I find it very difficult,
because I can read the letters.
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I studied ancient Greek.
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But when they're all just...
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..in a string,
I find it really difficult.
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OK.
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You...with the years...
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..you are used.
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You just get used to it?
You used and you read them.
Yeah.
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It's...it's not...if...even if you
come here and you stay one month,
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after one month,
you are going to read them...
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Yeah.
..easily.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So, what should I look out for
as I'm wandering round?
What?
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From there, that...
they are the earliest inscriptions.
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And afterwards,
you have to go back there from
here.
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That there.
OK.
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I mean...
I'll go and explore.
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Thank you very much.
You're welcome.
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ALICE: There are four large galleries
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containing inscriptions
on smaller and larger stones
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and back rooms, where
the researchers decode the texts
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and carefully catalogue each item.
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I'm looking, though, for
the oldest piece in the collection.
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This is one of the smallest fragments
in the museum,
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but definitely not to be missed,
'cause it's also the oldest,
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dating back to the 8th century BCE.
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So this is
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incredibly early Greek writing.
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I can make out a kappa there
and an alpha.
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What they're doing
is they're taking a written language
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that already existed,
the Phoenician language,
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the language of...of trade
around the eastern Mediterranean,
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and they're adapting it to
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the language that they're speaking.
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They're adapting it to
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that Greek spoken language,
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using those Phoenician letters,
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but also adding in new ones,
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because Phoenician didn't have
any vowels.
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And so the creation
of the Greek alphabet also involves
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vowel sounds as well as consonants.
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8th century.
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I mean, that's mind-blowing.
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We're seeing the origins
of the Greek alphabet here,
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and it really caught on.
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There's something amazing about
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still being able
to read these words today.
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But some inscriptions
are harder to decode than others.
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And these earlier ones look like
they're back-to-front.
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It's mirror writing.
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This is from the 7th century BCE,
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and it's read from right to left.
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So this is a gravestone for...
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..Keramos.
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And then in this inscription
of the 5th century,
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the direction of the writing
changes every line.
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So you can just see that
we're going this way, left to right,
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then we're going right to left
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then left to right.
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And this style is called
boustrophedon,
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because it's like
cattle pulling a plough
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and turning at the ends of the field.
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Tall stone slabs
covered in inscriptions
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were erected in public spaces.
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They're called stelae.
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They'd inform the citizens
of new laws, treaties
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or record financial dealings,
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a bit like a newsletter.
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So this is the stela that relates
to the first Athenian League.
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And this is when
the city-states came together
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in an alliance against the Persians.
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And Athens was
at the heart of that alliance.
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And what Athens was doing was
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asking for money
from the other city-states.
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So it was asking for a tribute.
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And what we've got here, then,
are all of these tributes recorded.
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So it is the kind of accounts
that go with this Athenian League,
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with this alliance.
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And what we've got here are numbers,
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a little bit like numbers in...
in Latin,
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but instead here
we've got Greek letters, so...
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..each one of these represents
a hekaton, so that's actually 400.
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So it's basically saying
how much each...
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..city should be paying to Athens.
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And you can see some
of the names of cities around here.
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They're all arranged
geographically, look,
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so we've got
cities around the Hellespont.
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Hellespontios.
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And they were all listed here,
like Neandreia.
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And then every few years,
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Athens has a reassessment
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and decides that everybody
should be paying them a bit more tax.
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Dimos says I can go in here,
into the research lab.
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It says "No entrance, no photos."
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I'm going in anyway.
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Oh, that's lovely.
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A little grave marker,
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with somebody's name on it, look.
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"Zosime Heraklionos..."
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So "Zosime, daughter of Heraklion..."
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"..Apamaetis..."
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"..from Apamea".
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And these two hands are praying,
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so hands raised
in invocation or prayer.
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That's lovely.
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Politics, ancient lives, deaths.
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They're all here.
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And they'll be here
long after I've gone.
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The centre of Athens has three huge
hills, completely uninhabited today.
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The most famous is the Acropolis.
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But I'm heading
to a neighbouring hill.
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And here,
I'm on the edge of the old city.
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This is part of
the ancient fortifications of Athens.
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There was a...
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..an enormous long wall,
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and then this is the remains of
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one of the gates into the city -
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in fact,
one of the towers at the gates.
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It had two towers, or dipylon.
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Look at the city!
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It's like a vast sea,
lapping up against these islands.
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The Acropolis is, of course, the most
famous landmark in Athens, but...
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..I think in some ways,
this hill is even more important.
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It's called the Pnyx.
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Seems to come from a word that means
"tightly packed together", because
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throngs of people
would gather up here,
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and this was where
the Athenian assembly met.
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This is the beginning
of the world's first democracy.
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Thousands of people could fit
into this semi-natural hollow,
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and the speaker, whoever it was
that was going to address the crowd,
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would step onto that platform there,
called the bema.
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And a really important principle was
that everybody had the right
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to speak to the assembly.
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Although when I say everybody,
it was every citizen,
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and not everybody was a citizen,
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so if you were a slave,
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you were not going to be able
to speak to the assembly,
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and also, you had to be a man,
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but apart from that, it is
the beginnings of democracy. (LAUGHS)
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Tomorrow,
I have a very important meeting
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with a minister
in the Greek government.
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I want to talk about the challenges
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of protecting
ancient Greek archaeology,
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the effects of tourism,
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and hopefully the Parthenon marbles,
that ended up in London.
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I love the way
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that people come out at night and sit
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on these little rocky islands
that poke up above the city.
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There's a few people up here,
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but there's loads of people on
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the Areopagus rock over there.
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That's a favourite spot.
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And it gets even more spectacular
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as the sun goes down
and they light up the Acropolis.
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The Acropolis,
literally the "high city",
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still dominates Athens.
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Its crowning glory is the Parthenon,
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the temple dedicated
to Athena herself.
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There are other monuments
up there too,
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all dating to the 5th century BCE.
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The Parthenon
looks remarkably intact,
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but it's been reconstructed.
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It was damaged by earthquakes
in antiquity,
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and in the 17th century, it was used
as a gunpowder store by the Ottomans
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and was blown up
by Venetian artillery.
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In the 19th century,
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the British ambassador Lord Elgin
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claimed to have made a deal
with the Turks
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allowing him to take
marble sculptures from the site,
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which he did,
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and they ended up a long way from
the Parthenon, in the British Museum.
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The debate about their return
has been rumbling on ever since.
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ALICE: I'm in Athens,
and I have an important meeting.
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I've got to be at the Minister
of Culture's office at 12 sharp.
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To get to the
ministerial Department of Culture,
489
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,680
I'm walking through
the National Gardens,
490
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,440
a calm and peaceful short cut
through the city centre.
491
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,960
It wasn't always
open to the public like this, though.
492
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,840
It was the Royal Gardens originally
493
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,840
and reserved for the exclusive use
of the Royal Family.
494
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,520
The park ends at Hadrian's Gate,
also known as the Arch of Hadrian,
495
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,960
a classic example of Roman Athens.
496
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:52,960
(SHUTTER CLICKS)
497
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,560
But now, time is tight,
498
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,520
and I want to look smart
for my meeting.
499
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,720
So, I've got an appointment
to see Dr Lina Mendoni,
500
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:05,840
who is an archaeologist
501
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,840
with a special expertise
in ancient inscriptions.
502
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,760
She also happens to be
the Minister for Culture.
503
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,480
I want to talk to her
about inscriptions,
504
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,360
but I'm also wondering
505
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,920
if she'll answer a question
about some very particular marbles.
506
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,040
As with all politicians,
time is very precious.
507
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,120
The Minister has two meetings today
with her Turkish counterpart,
508
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,600
so I'm very grateful
that she has managed
509
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,160
to squeeze me in.
510
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,520
We have just a few minutes
to get our cameras in place
511
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,840
and then it's on.
512
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,640
Dr Mendoni, I wanted to ask you
about inscriptions.
513
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,600
That is your particular passion,
your particular expertise.
514
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,080
Uh, so...uh...uh,
515
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,200
what...what is the importance of...
of inscriptions
516
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,440
to understanding
ancient Greek culture?
517
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,400
I mean, uh, uh, I think that's
what's incredible, is...is...is...
518
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,720
..being able to read the words
that were written in antiquity.
519
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,000
It's like somebody in the past
talking to you.
520
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,840
(SPEAKS GREEK) Exactly.
521
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,960
Yeah. Yeah.
Exactly.
522
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,680
I thought it was interesting
at Delphi, the...
523
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,280
..the importance
of protecting that landscape,
524
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,120
so that you do feel like you're
stepping back in time, actually.
525
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,640
And an important part of your...
your job now is...
526
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,680
..is looking at
how you can achieve that balance of
527
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,120
making these sites
accessible to the public
528
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,880
but protecting the archaeology.
529
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,920
That must be a huge challenge.
530
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,440
Yeah. So new policies
are making a difference.
531
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,640
And...yeah.
532
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,840
I would like to ask you
one final question.
533
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,520
And you can say that you don't want
to answer it if you don't want to.
534
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,120
In your lifetime,
would you like to see
535
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,040
the marbles come back from Britain
to the Parthenon?
536
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,080
Hmm. (LAUGHS)
537
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,080
Uh...
538
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,280
What would it mean to Greece
to have those marbles back?
539
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,400
Absolutely.
540
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,320
I don't know
why it seems so complicated.
541
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,760
To me, it is very straightforward.
542
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,520
They should be back here, in Athens.
543
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,640
Yeah. Yeah.
544
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,800
Amazing. Thank you.
You're very welcome.
545
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,360
ALICE: The Minister dashed off
to her next meeting.
546
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,600
The impression I have is
547
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,840
that she's a politician
who likes to get things done.
548
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,000
I've just two hours left in Athens
before I'm back on the train
549
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,360
for my next destination.
550
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,800
Ancient Athens
was a cosmopolitan city
551
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,400
where people from
different regions and cultures mixed.
552
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,800
I'm on my way to a museum dedicated
to the history of one community
553
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,880
that thrived here 2,000 years ago.
554
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:08,320
Along the avenue down to the metro
is an arts-and-crafts market.
555
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,400
I'm suddenly surrounded
by characters from ancient Greece.
556
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,400
And here is the legendary Theseus,
557
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,000
the man who went to Crete
to slay the minotaur
558
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,000
and who's credited
with founding Athens.
559
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,680
There's no evidence for any of that,
of course, but it's a good story.
560
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,880
As well as the bronze statue,
561
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,680
he has his very own metro station.
562
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:43,840
Thissio station is just a couple
of stops from my next destination.
563
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,400
I'm going to see a new exhibition
that reveals the fascinating story
564
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,800
of the Jews in ancient Greece.
565
00:36:55,640 --> 00:37:00,080
A 5-minute walk
brings me to the Jewish Museum.
566
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,680
(BUZZING)
567
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,640
It was founded in 1977
568
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:14,200
to house thousands of artefacts from
Jewish communities across Greece,
569
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:19,680
stretching back from the modern era
through the Middle Ages to antiquity.
570
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,960
And here's one object that captures
a century's worth of history.
571
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,000
There's a great story of recycling
right here.
572
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:35,000
This piece of stone has had
at least three cultural lives,
573
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,840
if I can describe it in that way.
574
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,720
It was...most recently,
before it ended up in this museum,
575
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:45,640
part of a Venetian fort at Chalcis.
576
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,560
But you can see there's writing
on it, and that writing is in Hebrew.
577
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,000
So before it was part of the fort,
it was a tombstone,
578
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:59,640
and it was a tombstone of, obviously,
a Jewish person in the 16th century.
579
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:05,240
Before that, though, it was part of
a bit of ancient Greek architecture.
580
00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:09,400
It's an Ionic capital
from the top of a column.
581
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,160
So it's interesting
to see this Jewish reuse of
582
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,040
this earlier
ancient Greek bit of stonework.
583
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,960
But I know there are much older
inscriptions in this museum
584
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:30,000
which evidence Jews in Greece
going back more than 2,000 years ago.
585
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,600
Occupying what seems to be
an old townhouse,
586
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:42,680
the museum has four floors arranged
around an octagonal staircase.
587
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,640
The collection here consists
of ritual objects
588
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,960
from synagogues from all over Greece.
589
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,120
There are also personal items,
rare books
590
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,000
and a collection of beautiful
textiles from the Ottoman period.
591
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:04,600
But it's the new exhibition on the
very top floor that I've come to see.
592
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,840
I'm meeting the museum's director,
593
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,320
Zanet.
594
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:10,360
Zanet.
Hi.
595
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,160
Hello. Nice to meet you.
It's good to see you.
596
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,120
Really good to see you.
I found an inscription downstairs,
597
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,240
But it dated to the 16th century.
Yes.
598
00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:19,040
Yes, yes.
Which is a bit late for me.
Yes, quite.
599
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,400
ALICE: This gallery
is dedicated to inscriptions,
600
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,000
but this time, Jewish inscriptions.
601
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,600
These artefacts have been collected
from mainland Greece and the islands
602
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,320
and span
different periods of antiquity.
603
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,720
This is a Hebrew inscription
dating from 1611...
OK.
604
00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:43,520
..from the castled city of Mystras,
605
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,720
where there was a
strong and vibrant Jewish
community.
606
00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:48,800
ALICE: Yeah.
607
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,600
So, here we are moving
to the 5th century, Common Era,
608
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,200
and this is a fragment
from the Agora of Athens.
609
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,720
That's a menorah, isn't it?
Yes, it's a menorah.
Yeah.
610
00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:02,000
ZANET: And a lulav. You see
part of a lulav here to the right.
611
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,480
ALICE: What's a lulav?
612
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:04,720
It's a bunch of plants...
Yeah.
613
00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:08,920
..a bouquet of plants, that's used,
uh, for the, uh, holiday of
Sukkoth.
614
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,880
And the menorah is the..
Tabernacles.
..is that typical Jewish candle?
615
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,520
Typical. Yes. Typical.
Yeah. Yeah.
616
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,240
And do you think
they were Greek-speaking?
617
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:17,560
Are we talking
about people who were...
618
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,280
..who were, you know, part
of that wider Hellenistic culture?
619
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,120
We know they were Greek-speaking.
Yeah.
620
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,000
They had already been Hellenised
621
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,400
by coming into contact
with the Greek language of the
time.
622
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,920
And they were speaking, um, Greek,
Hellenistic Greek, among themselves
623
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,240
in their everyday life.
624
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:35,320
Um, it...it was
something like English today.
Mmm.
625
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,040
If you wanted to be part
of a social milieu
626
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,560
and, uh, participate,
you know, in...in socials
627
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,280
and in, uh, business,
628
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,120
um, you had to speak Greek
at that time, like you do now.
629
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,000
You have to speak English.
Yeah, yeah.
630
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,040
So they're...they're speaking Greek
on a day-to-day basis...
Yes.
631
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,960
..but speaking Hebrew
in the synagogue?
632
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,760
Exactly. And worshipping in Hebrew.
Yeah. Yeah.
633
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,400
ZANET: This is very special.
634
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,160
This is the oldest inscription
in this exhibition
635
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,440
but also the oldest
archaeological evidence
636
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,800
of the presence of, uh, Jews
in...on Greek soil.
637
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,000
Really?
Yep.
638
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,000
And when does that date to?
639
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,640
ZANET: It dates from
the end of the 4th,
640
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,640
uh, to the first half of the 3rd
century, Before Common Era,
which...
641
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,440
BCE.
BCE. That's right.
642
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,440
ALICE: So we're talking, you know,
round the time of Aristotle,
643
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:23,880
around the time
of Alexander the Great.
644
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,280
Yeah.
Yep.
645
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,160
That's incredible.
646
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,920
It was found, erm, at the, uh,
temple of Amphiaraos,
647
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,160
in a small town called Oropus,
about
an hour and a half from Athens.
648
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,760
Yeah.
Um, it's a manumission inscription.
649
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,800
Quite rare. Yes.
OK. So...so freeing a slave?
650
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,720
Yes. It concerns freeing a slave.
651
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:48,080
And the text tells us very de...
in great detail,
652
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,960
because it's actually
a legally binding text,
653
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:56,600
that, uh, the, uh, man,
Moschos, son of Moschion, the Jew,
654
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,400
uh, will be liberated
by his master, Phrenenis,
655
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,640
a year after
this inscription is put up
656
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,760
at the wall of the temple
where it was found.
657
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,240
Yeah. Yeah.
So a year after that,
he must be liberated.
658
00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:10,520
ALICE: So this legal document
written in stone...
ZANET: Exactly.
659
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,160
..is the...is the first...
is the first inscription
660
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,080
that we have
relating to a Jewish person.
661
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,280
Show me...show me
where the word is that says...
662
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,080
It's right here.
..that he's a Jew.
663
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,320
ZANET: "Moschos, Moschionos..."
ALICE: Yes.
664
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:25,920
ZANET: Meaning "son of Moschion".
ALICE: Yeah.
665
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,840
"..Ioudaios."
ALICE: "Ioudaios." I can see that.
666
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,320
ZANET: "The Jew".
ALICE: Yeah.
ZANET: Right.
667
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:30,760
That's incredible.
668
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,920
So based on what we know
from the historical documents
669
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,960
and then this amazing new work
on the epigraphy, the inscriptions,
670
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,400
do you think there were...
there were Jews, there were...
671
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,520
..there were Jewish communities,
in...in most Greek cities?
672
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:43,680
Yes, if we...
673
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,680
..especially if we speak about, uh,
the...time in the long term...
674
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,800
Mmm.
And we're talking about 2,500
years.
675
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,520
So it is the long term.
Mmm.
676
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,200
..um, yes, absolutely.
677
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,200
They settled
in Greek cities and islands, um,
678
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,120
and, uh, traded there
and made lives for themselves,
679
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:00,840
professions they took up,
680
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,080
all the way from Crete
right to the north.
681
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,920
Yeah.
Um...maybe not in every city.
682
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,080
But in most cities, yes.
Yeah.
683
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,040
That's beautiful.
Thank you very much.
684
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,200
My time in Athens has come to an end.
685
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:29,520
I'm back at the station to catch
the train away from the capital.
686
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,400
I've seen amazing archaeology here,
687
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:40,720
including inscriptions revealing
the political power of ancient Athens
688
00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:45,160
and the presence of
Jewish communities in Greek cities.
689
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:51,800
And I learned how
theatre and democracy emerged here.
690
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,960
I've caught the train
heading westwards out of Athens,
691
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:00,040
and you quite quickly get out
of the city and into the countryside.
692
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,240
Lovely hills
dotted with olives and cypress trees.
693
00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:07,920
And I'm going to be crossing across
a very narrow isthmus
694
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,680
which connects to the Peloponnese.
695
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:15,320
I'm heading for another ancient city,
the city of Corinth,
696
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,720
and I've found an ancient philosopher
to be my guide,
697
00:44:19,720 --> 00:44:22,280
a man called Socrates.
698
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,960
Next time, I come face-to-face
with the Greek gods...
699
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,160
That's incredible, isn't it?
WOMAN: Yes.
700
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,800
..meet the workers
piecing together the past...
701
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:41,800
Are you getting near the end?
702
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,240
Oh! No.
(LAUGHS) Oh! No.
703
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:45,920
(LAUGHS)
704
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,520
..I take to the seas...
705
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:48,560
OK.
706
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,960
I'm in charge now.
707
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,000
..and meet the archaeologist
708
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,400
with the keys to the city...
709
00:44:59,240 --> 00:45:01,800
Oh! It's lovely.
710
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,720
..searching for more evidence
of ancient Greek civilisation.
711
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,920
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