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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,021 --> 00:00:06,021 DOWNLOADED FROM WWW.AWAFIM.TV 2 00:00:06,021 --> 00:00:08,421 [mournful choir music playing] 3 00:00:39,821 --> 00:00:41,260 {\an8}[buzzer sounds] 4 00:00:41,261 --> 00:00:43,500 {\an8}[busy chatter] 5 00:00:43,501 --> 00:00:44,581 {\an8}Oh. 6 00:00:48,741 --> 00:00:49,661 {\an8}[button beeps] 7 00:00:51,381 --> 00:00:52,541 {\an8}[man] Do you work here? 8 00:00:53,061 --> 00:00:55,461 {\an8}- Um, I'm a visitor. - [man] Right. 9 00:00:59,581 --> 00:01:02,221 {\an8}Right. Do you wanna just come through for a second? 10 00:01:03,541 --> 00:01:05,180 {\an8}[Briony] Sorry. I'm a bit late. 11 00:01:05,181 --> 00:01:09,060 {\an8}That's all right. I saw you coming up on the cameras. 12 00:01:09,061 --> 00:01:10,581 {\an8}He's being brought down. 13 00:01:11,501 --> 00:01:14,340 {\an8}Um, I heard he was involved in a violent incident. 14 00:01:14,341 --> 00:01:17,260 {\an8}- [clicks tongue] How'd you hear that? - It was reported up. 15 00:01:17,261 --> 00:01:20,340 {\an8}- That would be useful to see-- - Is that... relevant? 16 00:01:20,341 --> 00:01:21,981 {\an8}To what you'll assess? 17 00:01:22,981 --> 00:01:24,500 {\an8}I'd like to see it. 18 00:01:24,501 --> 00:01:28,461 {\an8}Okay. I'll, uh, fire up the megaport. 19 00:01:37,541 --> 00:01:39,541 Yeah, he's been pretty quiet. 20 00:01:40,741 --> 00:01:42,501 Don't know if that's relevant. 21 00:01:43,021 --> 00:01:47,661 If what I think and observe is relevant to what you assess. 22 00:01:48,301 --> 00:01:50,541 - [machine beeps] - [man] Here we go. 23 00:01:57,341 --> 00:02:00,020 - Yeah. It's just bruising and scratching. - [Briony] I read the report. 24 00:02:00,021 --> 00:02:02,581 - [man] Both blame the other. - [Briony] I know. I read the report. 25 00:02:05,461 --> 00:02:08,061 You're on... five visits? 26 00:02:08,821 --> 00:02:10,100 - Yes. - [man] Mm. 27 00:02:10,101 --> 00:02:11,981 Know what you're gonna say in the report? 28 00:02:12,621 --> 00:02:14,381 I wouldn't be here if I knew that. 29 00:02:15,021 --> 00:02:18,100 Well, the other one of you. He only needed three, so-- 30 00:02:18,101 --> 00:02:19,420 You can't say any more. 31 00:02:19,421 --> 00:02:22,260 It's important I don't know what the other psychologist says, 32 00:02:22,261 --> 00:02:23,741 does, or thinks. 33 00:02:28,341 --> 00:02:31,460 It's about making the right assessment, not the fastest. 34 00:02:31,461 --> 00:02:35,661 - [man] Sorry. I'm just being an idiot. - No, I did... That's just the way I work. 35 00:02:39,741 --> 00:02:42,540 Right. That's Jamie in place. 36 00:02:42,541 --> 00:02:43,781 I'll take you through. 37 00:02:44,701 --> 00:02:47,300 I need to get a hot chocolate from the machine. 38 00:02:47,301 --> 00:02:48,581 [man] I remember. 39 00:03:04,701 --> 00:03:06,701 [machine whirring] 40 00:03:30,061 --> 00:03:32,060 [boy screaming in distance] 41 00:03:32,061 --> 00:03:33,501 Get off me! 42 00:03:34,021 --> 00:03:36,541 No! You get off! 43 00:03:37,061 --> 00:03:39,701 Yeah, we've got a torture lab in the basement. 44 00:03:40,221 --> 00:03:42,461 Government approved. All very hush-hush. 45 00:03:42,981 --> 00:03:44,060 What are they? 46 00:03:44,061 --> 00:03:46,460 [Briony] He likes his hot chocolate with marshmallows on. 47 00:03:46,461 --> 00:03:49,540 You must mean business. Never done them before. 48 00:03:49,541 --> 00:03:52,501 - [alarm blaring] - That was, uh, Mark, I think. 49 00:03:53,341 --> 00:03:55,581 Radiator burns all over him, poor kid. 50 00:03:56,421 --> 00:03:59,061 I don't know what he did to get here, though. 51 00:03:59,861 --> 00:04:02,261 He's not famous like your Jamie. 52 00:04:02,941 --> 00:04:05,541 - Come on! - Two of us on the way now. 53 00:04:07,941 --> 00:04:09,381 Right. You know where I am. 54 00:04:14,941 --> 00:04:16,701 - You okay? - [Briony] Yes. 55 00:04:19,461 --> 00:04:21,261 - Hi, Jamie. - [Jamie] Hi. 56 00:04:22,181 --> 00:04:24,260 - You need us, we're here. - [Briony] Yes. 57 00:04:24,261 --> 00:04:26,180 - Same goes for you, Jamie. - [Jamie] Yeah. 58 00:04:26,181 --> 00:04:27,941 [guard] We'll be watching, okay? 59 00:04:31,581 --> 00:04:32,861 - [door closes] - [Jamie sniffles] 60 00:04:34,181 --> 00:04:35,220 Hot chocolate. 61 00:04:35,221 --> 00:04:36,740 Spri... Sprinkles? 62 00:04:36,741 --> 00:04:37,941 Lots of them. 63 00:04:39,301 --> 00:04:41,301 You remembered. Thank you. 64 00:04:41,821 --> 00:04:44,980 And I saved you half my sandwich in case you were hungry. 65 00:04:44,981 --> 00:04:46,061 What is it? 66 00:04:46,781 --> 00:04:48,021 [Briony] Cheese and pickle. 67 00:04:48,941 --> 00:04:50,380 No tomatoes? 68 00:04:50,381 --> 00:04:52,621 [Briony] Tomatoes don't go very well with pickle. 69 00:04:53,141 --> 00:04:54,261 No salad? 70 00:04:54,861 --> 00:04:56,501 Would I do that to you? 71 00:05:00,061 --> 00:05:02,620 There's no tomatoes. No salad. There's just cheese and pickle. 72 00:05:02,621 --> 00:05:06,140 - Do you want it? I'll save it for later. - No. I'll have it. 73 00:05:06,141 --> 00:05:09,941 Ah, I... I don't know about pickle, though, but... I'll have it. 74 00:05:11,181 --> 00:05:12,461 [sighs] 75 00:05:13,221 --> 00:05:15,580 - Did you make it? - Yes. 76 00:05:15,581 --> 00:05:18,541 - You make butties, do you? - What, you think that's weird? 77 00:05:19,061 --> 00:05:21,460 No. My mum makes 'em. 78 00:05:21,461 --> 00:05:23,341 Well, that makes two of us, then. 79 00:05:26,021 --> 00:05:26,980 This is nice. 80 00:05:26,981 --> 00:05:27,981 It's a bit hot. 81 00:05:28,541 --> 00:05:29,781 I don't mind hot. 82 00:05:33,341 --> 00:05:34,381 [sniffles] 83 00:05:35,781 --> 00:05:39,141 - You're looking better than last time. - What's that supposed to mean? 84 00:05:39,661 --> 00:05:41,621 You've just got some of your color back. 85 00:05:42,461 --> 00:05:45,060 - You sound like a granny. - [chuckles] Do I? 86 00:05:45,061 --> 00:05:47,741 "Oh, you got your color back. You can't have been that ill." 87 00:05:48,421 --> 00:05:50,581 - [Briony] That's a good voice. - No. 88 00:05:52,421 --> 00:05:54,181 [Briony] Do you see your grandparents much? 89 00:05:54,981 --> 00:05:58,101 - Well, not recently, no. - [Briony] No, I meant before all this. 90 00:05:58,981 --> 00:06:00,540 Yeah, a bit. 91 00:06:00,541 --> 00:06:03,900 My dad's side... my dad's mum and dad. My mum didn't get on with hers. 92 00:06:03,901 --> 00:06:05,701 [Briony] Yeah, we spoke about that. 93 00:06:06,541 --> 00:06:09,541 - So, what are your dad's parents like? - [clears throat] 94 00:06:10,581 --> 00:06:13,061 [sighs] I don't know. Like him. 95 00:06:13,581 --> 00:06:14,981 [Briony] Well, what does that mean? 96 00:06:16,461 --> 00:06:20,340 They like things as they like them. "No gravy. Such a shame." 97 00:06:20,341 --> 00:06:23,860 Or, "I like a slice with my dinner if you've got one in, Amanda." 98 00:06:23,861 --> 00:06:26,341 [chuckles] A slice... A slice of what? 99 00:06:26,861 --> 00:06:29,021 [scoffs] Bread. 100 00:06:29,581 --> 00:06:32,540 - You're posh, aren't ya? - No, I'm just not from where you're from. 101 00:06:32,541 --> 00:06:35,140 Well, what do you call bread if you don't call it a slice? 102 00:06:35,141 --> 00:06:36,501 Mm, bread? 103 00:06:37,581 --> 00:06:38,860 [both laugh] 104 00:06:38,861 --> 00:06:40,021 You're posh. 105 00:06:40,541 --> 00:06:42,460 If it makes you happy that I am, Jamie, then I am. 106 00:06:42,461 --> 00:06:45,540 Well, what do you call your grandad? Bet you call him "Grandpa." 107 00:06:45,541 --> 00:06:47,100 - I do not. - I bet you do. 108 00:06:47,101 --> 00:06:48,620 I call him "Pop-pop." 109 00:06:48,621 --> 00:06:49,701 What? 110 00:06:50,261 --> 00:06:51,260 Do ya? 111 00:06:51,261 --> 00:06:54,140 - Yes, I do. - Wow! [laughs] 112 00:06:54,141 --> 00:06:57,500 - Jesus. I've not heard that one before. - I don't know why. 113 00:06:57,501 --> 00:07:00,620 Okay. Maybe he asked me to call him that. I'm not sure. 114 00:07:00,621 --> 00:07:02,821 - God, you're really posh. - [sighs] 115 00:07:03,461 --> 00:07:04,661 [Jamie inhales sharply] 116 00:07:05,301 --> 00:07:06,901 Are you not gonna try the sandwich? 117 00:07:07,701 --> 00:07:10,181 I'll have it later. It's just... the pickle. 118 00:07:11,381 --> 00:07:12,380 Hate it. 119 00:07:12,381 --> 00:07:13,621 You hate it? 120 00:07:14,341 --> 00:07:16,420 - Oh, I really messed up, then. - Yeah, you did. 121 00:07:16,421 --> 00:07:17,541 Okay. 122 00:07:19,701 --> 00:07:21,461 So, can we talk a bit about you? 123 00:07:22,101 --> 00:07:24,541 You see a lot of your dad in your grandad, do you? 124 00:07:25,501 --> 00:07:26,541 Yeah, I don't know. 125 00:07:27,301 --> 00:07:30,340 Is it just what they say, or how they do things? 126 00:07:30,341 --> 00:07:32,381 What's your dad and his dad like? 127 00:07:33,181 --> 00:07:34,181 Men. 128 00:07:35,421 --> 00:07:39,261 Okay. Well, would "masculine" be an okay word to use? 129 00:07:39,781 --> 00:07:41,181 [Jamie] You used it. 130 00:07:42,021 --> 00:07:45,701 When I hear the word "masculine," I think they can mend things. 131 00:07:46,341 --> 00:07:47,860 They like to make things. 132 00:07:47,861 --> 00:07:51,261 They like sports. They like going to the pub. 133 00:07:52,221 --> 00:07:53,261 [Jamie] Yeah. 134 00:07:53,861 --> 00:07:56,180 Not the pub, but, yeah. 135 00:07:56,181 --> 00:07:57,821 Your dad doesn't go to the pub? 136 00:07:58,381 --> 00:08:00,581 [Jamie clicks tongue] No, not... not really. 137 00:08:01,221 --> 00:08:02,661 Not as much as my pop-pop. 138 00:08:03,181 --> 00:08:06,021 - Not gonna let me forget that, are you? - [Jamie chuckles] No. 139 00:08:07,581 --> 00:08:09,821 So, your grandad's more of a pub man, is he? 140 00:08:10,821 --> 00:08:14,340 [Jamie] I dunno. He... He's not around that much anymore. 141 00:08:14,341 --> 00:08:15,301 How much? 142 00:08:17,621 --> 00:08:19,141 Every other Sunday, maybe. 143 00:08:19,781 --> 00:08:21,580 Sometimes in the week when they're both... 144 00:08:21,581 --> 00:08:25,021 Mum and Dad are both working, but that's more Granny. 145 00:08:26,261 --> 00:08:27,701 A bit more in the holidays. 146 00:08:28,261 --> 00:08:30,701 - We went to Tenerife with them once. - On holiday? 147 00:08:31,221 --> 00:08:33,461 No, banana picking. 148 00:08:33,981 --> 00:08:35,340 - [chuckles] - [scoffs] 149 00:08:35,341 --> 00:08:38,621 - Obviously it was on holiday. - Okay. [laughs] 150 00:08:39,141 --> 00:08:43,981 I don't think I've ever heard anyone use banana picking in a comeback. 151 00:08:44,501 --> 00:08:46,861 - [laughs, sighs] - [Jamie chuckles softly] 152 00:08:48,181 --> 00:08:52,100 I suppose the other thing I think about when I hear the word "masculine" 153 00:08:52,101 --> 00:08:53,860 would be the way that masculine men-- 154 00:08:53,861 --> 00:08:56,220 This started 'cause I said you sounded like a granny. 155 00:08:56,221 --> 00:08:58,101 - [Briony] What? - [sighs] 156 00:08:59,021 --> 00:09:01,341 This all started because I said you sounded like a granny. 157 00:09:01,861 --> 00:09:04,620 And now you're just going on about masculine stuff. 158 00:09:04,621 --> 00:09:05,780 [Briony] Yes. 159 00:09:05,781 --> 00:09:08,260 The first time you came, you had actual questions. 160 00:09:08,261 --> 00:09:11,221 "Is this right, Jamie? Do you know whether this is wrong, Jamie?" 161 00:09:11,741 --> 00:09:14,700 - Now you're just chatting shit. - I hope I'm not. 162 00:09:14,701 --> 00:09:17,220 Well, you are, because the first time you're all, 163 00:09:17,221 --> 00:09:20,420 "If an adult guinea pig eats one of its kids, is that normal or weird?" 164 00:09:20,421 --> 00:09:22,660 - And now you're, "What do you call bread?" - Come on. 165 00:09:22,661 --> 00:09:24,300 - I'm interested. - It feels like a trick. 166 00:09:24,301 --> 00:09:26,301 Trick? Trick into what? 167 00:09:27,781 --> 00:09:29,181 My dad's okay. 168 00:09:30,381 --> 00:09:31,381 All right? 169 00:09:32,461 --> 00:09:33,941 Okay. I know. 170 00:09:34,461 --> 00:09:35,981 Just talking about him. 171 00:09:36,861 --> 00:09:38,141 There isn't a need. 172 00:09:40,741 --> 00:09:44,261 Fine, if that's how you feel. But I'm not trying to trick you. 173 00:09:46,341 --> 00:09:47,780 [sighs] 174 00:09:47,781 --> 00:09:50,421 - And now I've pissed you off. - [Briony] No. 175 00:09:53,501 --> 00:09:56,580 Can I see your notes? What you've got written down about me? 176 00:09:56,581 --> 00:09:58,700 - Do you see me writing? - [Jamie] You must write stuff. 177 00:09:58,701 --> 00:09:59,980 Yes. 178 00:09:59,981 --> 00:10:02,741 [Jamie] Can I see what you wrote? What you've written? 179 00:10:03,261 --> 00:10:04,461 Of course you can't. 180 00:10:05,181 --> 00:10:08,500 - The lawyers have said you work for us. - That's not what they say, Jamie. 181 00:10:08,501 --> 00:10:11,381 And I know that because I asked them the last time you said that to me. 182 00:10:11,901 --> 00:10:13,221 [Jamie] You talk to them? 183 00:10:13,901 --> 00:10:16,620 I explained. I've been employed by your team, but I don't work for you. 184 00:10:16,621 --> 00:10:19,140 - [Jamie] What do you tell them? - I'm writing an independent-- 185 00:10:19,141 --> 00:10:23,781 - [Jamie] What do they say to you? - A presentence offense report. 186 00:10:24,301 --> 00:10:26,820 Which the judge will read to get an understanding of you 187 00:10:26,821 --> 00:10:29,300 and your understanding of the charges. Okay? 188 00:10:29,301 --> 00:10:30,581 [Jamie sighs] 189 00:10:31,941 --> 00:10:35,941 All I want to do is talk to you, Jamie, and have you talk to me. 190 00:10:38,261 --> 00:10:40,180 Yes, I've asked some straightforward questions. 191 00:10:40,181 --> 00:10:41,340 - But I think... - [yawns] 192 00:10:41,341 --> 00:10:42,661 [Briony] Am I boring you? 193 00:10:43,181 --> 00:10:44,821 - No. - [Briony] Okay. 194 00:10:49,781 --> 00:10:52,140 I think you, and everyone else for that matter, 195 00:10:52,141 --> 00:10:55,341 are far more complex than straightforward questions allow for. 196 00:10:56,701 --> 00:10:59,541 We had a good conversation last time. Can we try that again? 197 00:11:00,301 --> 00:11:01,660 What did we talk about last time? 198 00:11:01,661 --> 00:11:04,540 We spoke about your friends, your sister, your mum. We went-- 199 00:11:04,541 --> 00:11:06,980 - Can't remember saying anything about 'em. - Well, you did. 200 00:11:06,981 --> 00:11:10,500 How you feel about them. How Lisa's doing. What you think your mum thinks of you. 201 00:11:10,501 --> 00:11:13,821 - Now you wanna talk about my dad? - I want to talk about lots of things. 202 00:11:17,661 --> 00:11:18,700 [Jamie sighs] 203 00:11:18,701 --> 00:11:21,540 I could tell you questions that I wrote down to talk to you about today. 204 00:11:21,541 --> 00:11:22,781 If that helps. 205 00:11:23,621 --> 00:11:25,061 All right. Yeah. 206 00:11:26,301 --> 00:11:29,740 Okay. Well, I wanted to talk about the fight you had. 207 00:11:29,741 --> 00:11:32,660 - That was nothing. - I was interested why you got in a fight. 208 00:11:32,661 --> 00:11:34,701 - He hit me first. - Why? 209 00:11:35,781 --> 00:11:37,981 Because we've had beef over stuff. 210 00:11:38,501 --> 00:11:40,301 It doesn't matter. It wasn't a proper fight. 211 00:11:40,821 --> 00:11:42,580 - It's not that interesting? - It's not. 212 00:11:42,581 --> 00:11:44,420 Okay, let's move on. 213 00:11:44,421 --> 00:11:47,261 - What? I'm in charge now, am I? - Mm. Maybe. 214 00:11:50,941 --> 00:11:54,981 I also wrote down that I wanted to talk to you about what being a man feels like. 215 00:11:55,981 --> 00:11:57,861 You want a cock and balls, do ya? 216 00:11:59,501 --> 00:12:02,701 I'm interested in what being a man feels like for you. 217 00:12:03,581 --> 00:12:04,461 I dunno. 218 00:12:04,981 --> 00:12:06,821 It's too big a question, right? 219 00:12:07,381 --> 00:12:09,301 And the fight's too small a question. 220 00:12:09,821 --> 00:12:13,180 Which is why it's more useful for me to see where the conversation goes 221 00:12:13,181 --> 00:12:17,460 and steer it a bit into what you think of your dad and your grandad, for instance. 222 00:12:17,461 --> 00:12:19,180 The type of men you think they are. 223 00:12:19,181 --> 00:12:23,101 Rather than saying, "So, Jamie, what do you think being a man feels like?" 224 00:12:23,621 --> 00:12:24,860 [Jamie chuckles] 225 00:12:24,861 --> 00:12:27,500 "So, Jamie, what do you think being a man feels like?" 226 00:12:27,501 --> 00:12:28,861 It's not a trick. 227 00:12:31,901 --> 00:12:33,621 It's just a conversation. 228 00:12:37,421 --> 00:12:40,341 So, do you think it would be okay if we speak about your dad? 229 00:12:43,301 --> 00:12:46,780 Can I just see your notes? What you wrote, how you wrote it? 230 00:12:46,781 --> 00:12:47,701 Nope. 231 00:12:48,341 --> 00:12:49,861 You're not that in charge. 232 00:12:52,781 --> 00:12:54,501 Does your dad like his job? 233 00:12:55,261 --> 00:12:57,541 He fixes toilets. What do you think? 234 00:12:58,341 --> 00:12:59,261 He works hard. 235 00:12:59,781 --> 00:13:03,780 Long hours. You get the best money from emergency plumbing out of hours. 236 00:13:03,781 --> 00:13:04,861 Is he funny? 237 00:13:05,341 --> 00:13:06,420 Sometimes. 238 00:13:06,421 --> 00:13:07,381 Loving? 239 00:13:07,981 --> 00:13:09,981 - No, that's weird. - Angry? 240 00:13:10,821 --> 00:13:11,900 I suppose. 241 00:13:11,901 --> 00:13:13,341 How angry does he get? 242 00:13:13,821 --> 00:13:15,020 He's never hit me. 243 00:13:15,021 --> 00:13:16,421 Okay, go on. 244 00:13:17,141 --> 00:13:18,341 Go on what? 245 00:13:19,021 --> 00:13:21,580 - Is that what this is about? - Why do you call him angry? 246 00:13:21,581 --> 00:13:24,140 He just gets mad. We all do. 247 00:13:24,141 --> 00:13:27,821 Okay. That's okay. He's just angry in a normal way. 248 00:13:29,421 --> 00:13:35,181 Well, he's pulled a shed down once when he was in a proper rager, but... 249 00:13:35,781 --> 00:13:37,900 [clears throat] ...that's as bad as it gets. 250 00:13:37,901 --> 00:13:39,261 Were you frightened? 251 00:13:40,381 --> 00:13:43,781 No, I... I thought it was quite funny at the time. 252 00:13:44,301 --> 00:13:47,541 Lisa did too. Then Mum sent us upstairs. 253 00:13:49,221 --> 00:13:50,981 He's not like that most of the time. 254 00:13:51,861 --> 00:13:53,141 Hardly ever. 255 00:13:54,541 --> 00:13:56,341 What does he do when he's not working? 256 00:13:58,181 --> 00:13:59,940 It just feels like you're testing him. 257 00:13:59,941 --> 00:14:02,581 No, I'm just interested in your view of him. 258 00:14:03,341 --> 00:14:06,260 He's a big presence in your life. He was your appropriate adult. 259 00:14:06,261 --> 00:14:08,741 Yeah, 'cause... he doesn't judge. 260 00:14:09,581 --> 00:14:11,381 He... He's a kind person. 261 00:14:11,941 --> 00:14:13,141 That's good to know. 262 00:14:14,421 --> 00:14:16,621 So, what does he do when he's not working? 263 00:14:18,501 --> 00:14:20,981 He basically likes all sport. 264 00:14:21,781 --> 00:14:25,060 My mum always said if he'd watch lawn bowls, he'd make it fun. 265 00:14:25,061 --> 00:14:27,021 Would you watch lawn bowls with him? 266 00:14:27,541 --> 00:14:30,140 No, it's... it's not for me. 267 00:14:30,141 --> 00:14:31,461 Are you not into sport? 268 00:14:31,941 --> 00:14:33,501 - No. - None of it? 269 00:14:34,701 --> 00:14:39,501 Yeah, I'm... I'm not good at much, but... I'm really good at getting out of PE. 270 00:14:40,061 --> 00:14:41,341 How do you do that, then? 271 00:14:42,701 --> 00:14:45,501 Um, headaches. Hurt my leg. 272 00:14:46,021 --> 00:14:46,941 Funny tummy. 273 00:14:47,621 --> 00:14:51,020 [sighs] "Sir, I feel dizzy. Can I sit down?" That sort of thing. 274 00:14:51,021 --> 00:14:53,181 What did... does your dad make of that? 275 00:14:54,701 --> 00:14:56,261 He, um... He didn't... 276 00:14:57,021 --> 00:14:59,101 [clears throat] He doesn't... He doesn't know. 277 00:15:00,581 --> 00:15:04,181 He knew I wasn't sporty or anything like that. 278 00:15:05,901 --> 00:15:07,021 [sighs] 279 00:15:08,021 --> 00:15:10,701 I... I used to, uh... He used to take me to football. 280 00:15:11,461 --> 00:15:12,701 [clears throat] This... 281 00:15:13,901 --> 00:15:17,181 This football thing on... on Saturdays. 282 00:15:18,581 --> 00:15:19,781 And he'd, um... 283 00:15:22,221 --> 00:15:23,461 [sighs] 284 00:15:23,981 --> 00:15:26,101 He'd cheer me on and everything, but... 285 00:15:26,941 --> 00:15:28,261 [sighs] 286 00:15:29,781 --> 00:15:31,781 But when I... I'd fuck up, he'd just... 287 00:15:32,301 --> 00:15:33,541 [sighs] 288 00:15:38,221 --> 00:15:39,421 [exhales heavily] 289 00:15:45,021 --> 00:15:46,141 [sighs] 290 00:15:47,661 --> 00:15:49,581 He'd... He'd just look away. 291 00:15:51,861 --> 00:15:53,501 [Briony] Pretend he didn't see? 292 00:15:56,301 --> 00:15:57,821 Maybe, or... 293 00:15:58,341 --> 00:15:59,461 [clears throat] 294 00:16:00,021 --> 00:16:03,261 [sighs] Maybe he just didn't want me to see him looking... 295 00:16:03,781 --> 00:16:05,661 [sighs, hesitates] ...sorry. 296 00:16:06,341 --> 00:16:07,461 Sorry? 297 00:16:09,181 --> 00:16:10,381 I dunno. 298 00:16:11,501 --> 00:16:12,581 Ashamed. 299 00:16:16,741 --> 00:16:19,301 How did you feel when you saw that shame? 300 00:16:21,261 --> 00:16:23,781 - You're supposed to say he wasn't. - Am I? 301 00:16:24,301 --> 00:16:25,301 Yeah. 302 00:16:25,981 --> 00:16:28,580 You're supposed to say, "Oh, bet he wasn't ashamed." 303 00:16:28,581 --> 00:16:30,140 "Bet you just thought that, Jamie." 304 00:16:30,141 --> 00:16:34,020 Or, "Is that what you really think? He wouldn't be ashamed, not of his kid." 305 00:16:34,021 --> 00:16:37,260 - Have other people said that to you? - It's just the right thing to say. 306 00:16:37,261 --> 00:16:38,540 Isn't it lying? 307 00:16:38,541 --> 00:16:39,621 No. 308 00:16:40,141 --> 00:16:42,261 [sighs] I don't know. I don't like lying. 309 00:16:46,901 --> 00:16:47,901 [sighs] 310 00:16:51,581 --> 00:16:53,661 I wasn't into school sports either. 311 00:16:55,821 --> 00:16:59,261 Yeah, well, you were good at other stuff, though, weren't ya? 312 00:16:59,781 --> 00:17:01,061 Why do you think that? 313 00:17:02,781 --> 00:17:04,421 You look like you were, and you're... 314 00:17:04,941 --> 00:17:06,141 And you're clever, so... 315 00:17:06,621 --> 00:17:09,301 Did you not think you were very good at anything else? 316 00:17:10,901 --> 00:17:13,341 No. I... I didn't care I wasn't. 317 00:17:14,261 --> 00:17:16,181 It must be hard to feel that way. 318 00:17:16,701 --> 00:17:17,621 No. 319 00:17:18,941 --> 00:17:20,581 I think most people think like that. 320 00:17:21,101 --> 00:17:23,100 Most people think they're bad at everything? 321 00:17:23,101 --> 00:17:24,541 Most people are. 322 00:17:25,221 --> 00:17:26,821 Does your sister feel like that? 323 00:17:27,541 --> 00:17:28,461 No. 324 00:17:29,061 --> 00:17:30,141 Lisa's clever. 325 00:17:30,661 --> 00:17:31,821 Your dad? 326 00:17:33,541 --> 00:17:34,701 I don't know. 327 00:17:35,861 --> 00:17:37,221 My... My mum does, though. 328 00:17:37,741 --> 00:17:39,821 Your mum thinks she's bad at everything? 329 00:17:40,781 --> 00:17:42,541 She can cook a roast, but... 330 00:17:43,061 --> 00:17:44,741 I mean, you'd have to ask her. 331 00:17:46,661 --> 00:17:47,660 Have you met them yet? 332 00:17:47,661 --> 00:17:49,300 - Your family? - Yeah. 333 00:17:49,301 --> 00:17:51,501 I've... spoken to your dad on the phone. 334 00:17:52,021 --> 00:17:54,060 - Yeah? - Yes. As part of my assessment. 335 00:17:54,061 --> 00:17:55,260 How is he? 336 00:17:55,261 --> 00:17:58,380 He's okay. He's sad you're here. I can't say more than that. 337 00:17:58,381 --> 00:17:59,621 [Jamie sighs] 338 00:18:02,421 --> 00:18:03,701 [exhales] 339 00:18:05,181 --> 00:18:06,620 Well, it... it's wrong... 340 00:18:06,621 --> 00:18:07,580 [sighs] 341 00:18:07,581 --> 00:18:08,701 ...that I'm in here. 342 00:18:12,341 --> 00:18:14,261 [sighs] Can I ask you a question? 343 00:18:14,901 --> 00:18:15,981 Of course you can. 344 00:18:17,061 --> 00:18:20,660 - Can you get me out of this place? - I'm afraid I'm of no use to you there. 345 00:18:20,661 --> 00:18:23,300 Why couldn't they put me in a proper prison? 346 00:18:23,301 --> 00:18:25,940 - A better facility wasn't available. - Putting me in a madhouse? 347 00:18:25,941 --> 00:18:28,461 - It's a secure training center. - Training? 348 00:18:29,061 --> 00:18:31,140 [hesitates] What are they training us for? 349 00:18:31,141 --> 00:18:33,180 The other boys just scream all the time. 350 00:18:33,181 --> 00:18:36,020 They rock backwards and forwards, and they shout at Coronation Street. 351 00:18:36,021 --> 00:18:37,620 All the way through Corrie. 352 00:18:37,621 --> 00:18:41,100 One kid goes nuts every time he sees Steve McDonald. It's mad in here. 353 00:18:41,101 --> 00:18:44,500 - [Briony] This was the best place for you. - Ryan gets to stay home until his trial. 354 00:18:44,501 --> 00:18:46,580 [Briony] Ryan isn't accused of such a serious crime. 355 00:18:46,581 --> 00:18:49,300 Accused. It's all accused. 356 00:18:49,301 --> 00:18:52,340 If I did it, if I hurt her, then I'd get it, but I didn't, so-- 357 00:18:52,341 --> 00:18:56,100 - [Briony] As far as I understand it-- - Am I getting moved for the trial? 358 00:18:56,101 --> 00:18:57,540 Nothing has been decided yet. 359 00:18:57,541 --> 00:19:00,020 Do you know where it's gonna be? London or local? 360 00:19:00,021 --> 00:19:03,180 You need to sit down, Jamie. If you don't sit down, I have-- 361 00:19:03,181 --> 00:19:05,340 You don't know, or you just won't tell me? 362 00:19:05,341 --> 00:19:07,740 Nothing's been decided yet. You need to sit down! 363 00:19:07,741 --> 00:19:08,660 I don't want to sit! 364 00:19:08,661 --> 00:19:10,780 If you don't sit, I have to stop this discussion. 365 00:19:10,781 --> 00:19:12,740 - Maybe I want you to! - Do you? 366 00:19:12,741 --> 00:19:15,940 It'd piss you off. You'd have to go home and then come back again. 367 00:19:15,941 --> 00:19:17,620 Jamie, if you do not sit-- 368 00:19:17,621 --> 00:19:20,020 I don't fucking wanna sit down! 369 00:19:20,021 --> 00:19:23,140 You do not tell me when to sit down! 370 00:19:23,141 --> 00:19:25,540 You do not control what I fucking... 371 00:19:25,541 --> 00:19:27,900 Look at me now! [panting] 372 00:19:27,901 --> 00:19:30,860 You do not control what I do in my life! 373 00:19:30,861 --> 00:19:33,060 Get that in that fucking little head of yours! 374 00:19:33,061 --> 00:19:34,340 [door opens] 375 00:19:34,341 --> 00:19:35,580 [Jamie] Fucking hell! 376 00:19:35,581 --> 00:19:37,101 [guard] Is everything okay? 377 00:19:38,661 --> 00:19:40,180 [Jamie sighs] 378 00:19:40,181 --> 00:19:41,540 [grunts] 379 00:19:41,541 --> 00:19:43,221 - There isn't a problem. - Fuck. 380 00:19:44,941 --> 00:19:45,861 Jamie. 381 00:19:46,781 --> 00:19:47,980 [inhales sharply] 382 00:19:47,981 --> 00:19:50,541 I shouted. I'm sorry. 383 00:19:52,501 --> 00:19:53,860 - Do you want him taken out? - No. 384 00:19:53,861 --> 00:19:56,461 I'll get a cup of tea, though, if that's okay. 385 00:19:58,221 --> 00:20:00,101 Can I have another hot chocolate, please? 386 00:20:01,581 --> 00:20:03,180 - Sure. - [Jamie] You don't have to. 387 00:20:03,181 --> 00:20:04,220 Sure. 388 00:20:04,221 --> 00:20:07,901 - [somber, oppressive music rises] - [indistinct shouting in distance] 389 00:20:26,341 --> 00:20:27,501 [exhales sharply] 390 00:20:29,741 --> 00:20:31,061 [huffs] 391 00:20:33,861 --> 00:20:35,101 [sighs] 392 00:20:42,981 --> 00:20:44,461 [man] Causing trouble, is he? 393 00:20:45,781 --> 00:20:46,901 [sighs] 394 00:20:50,221 --> 00:20:51,901 Uh, could I look in the room? 395 00:20:52,421 --> 00:20:54,660 - There's no audio. - That's fine. Can I look? 396 00:20:54,661 --> 00:20:58,780 Of course. Mi casa is your casa. Or whatever they say. [chuckles] 397 00:20:58,781 --> 00:21:00,461 [excited chatter nearby] 398 00:21:04,701 --> 00:21:06,221 - [man] After you. - Thank you. 399 00:21:21,021 --> 00:21:22,141 What are you seeing? 400 00:21:24,181 --> 00:21:28,141 I mean, what is it you're looking for? Is it body language stuff? 401 00:21:30,621 --> 00:21:32,821 It's just, I'm reading a book on that at the moment. 402 00:21:36,901 --> 00:21:38,701 My sister gave it to me. 403 00:21:41,221 --> 00:21:42,141 You see, 404 00:21:43,901 --> 00:21:44,861 people hide. 405 00:21:45,901 --> 00:21:51,181 I know I don't need to tell you this, but... they hide so much. 406 00:21:53,061 --> 00:21:56,181 Maybe they tell the truth with their bodies, you know? 407 00:21:57,501 --> 00:21:59,341 - Faces-- - [curtly] Yes, maybe. 408 00:22:03,301 --> 00:22:04,701 I couldn't do what you do. 409 00:22:05,221 --> 00:22:07,101 I'm sure I couldn't do what you do. 410 00:22:07,621 --> 00:22:09,101 Do you want to job swap? 411 00:22:09,781 --> 00:22:10,941 What's your hours? 412 00:22:11,461 --> 00:22:13,420 What's your wages? [chuckles] 413 00:22:13,421 --> 00:22:17,461 - What's your holiday allowance? - No. I like my job most of the time. 414 00:22:18,661 --> 00:22:21,541 Well... I hate mine. 415 00:22:23,021 --> 00:22:25,021 So you're probably best off. 416 00:22:27,501 --> 00:22:28,381 Right. 417 00:22:29,101 --> 00:22:30,301 That's all I needed. 418 00:22:30,821 --> 00:22:31,661 Dib dib dib. 419 00:22:32,541 --> 00:22:34,221 - Pleased to help. - Thank you. 420 00:22:35,141 --> 00:22:36,101 Thanks. 421 00:22:42,101 --> 00:22:43,461 [exhales deeply] 422 00:22:44,221 --> 00:22:45,221 [clears throat] 423 00:22:49,461 --> 00:22:50,821 [exhales sharply] 424 00:22:52,021 --> 00:22:53,900 [guard] Would you be comfortable with me staying? 425 00:22:53,901 --> 00:22:56,020 No, I wouldn't like that at all. 426 00:22:56,021 --> 00:23:00,780 Right, Jamie. I'm not a police officer. I'm not here to elicit a confession. 427 00:23:00,781 --> 00:23:05,020 I'm just here to understand. I know you think I'm trying to trick you. 428 00:23:05,021 --> 00:23:06,860 I said... I said that ages ago. 429 00:23:06,861 --> 00:23:10,501 I am just here to get an understanding of your understanding. 430 00:23:13,181 --> 00:23:15,061 [sighs] And I understand 431 00:23:16,101 --> 00:23:19,021 that you need to have an understanding of my understanding. 432 00:23:20,741 --> 00:23:21,901 Go on. 433 00:23:22,861 --> 00:23:23,981 Ask your questions. 434 00:23:24,741 --> 00:23:26,301 [sighs] I'm better now. 435 00:23:28,181 --> 00:23:29,341 [exhales] 436 00:23:31,141 --> 00:23:32,661 Okay. Uh... 437 00:23:36,461 --> 00:23:41,860 Well, I suppose the other thing I think of in relation to the word "masculinity" 438 00:23:41,861 --> 00:23:45,021 would be how masculine men feel about women. 439 00:23:46,261 --> 00:23:48,621 - We're back on that, are we? - Yes. Is that okay? 440 00:23:49,941 --> 00:23:51,541 [sighs] Uh, yeah. 441 00:23:52,621 --> 00:23:55,741 You need to have an understanding of my understanding of women. 442 00:23:56,221 --> 00:23:58,220 - I forgot your hot chocolate. - It's fine. 443 00:23:58,221 --> 00:24:01,301 - I'll get it. - No, just... sit down, please. 444 00:24:01,821 --> 00:24:02,941 [sighs] 445 00:24:03,901 --> 00:24:05,780 It's fine. I don't deserve it. 446 00:24:05,781 --> 00:24:06,981 I shouted. 447 00:24:09,101 --> 00:24:11,701 Ask your questions about men, women, whatever. 448 00:24:13,701 --> 00:24:16,341 Well, you must have views on men and women. 449 00:24:17,461 --> 00:24:19,141 How does your dad treat your mum? 450 00:24:20,741 --> 00:24:23,461 - Are you trying to get at my dad again? - No, not get at him. 451 00:24:24,301 --> 00:24:25,740 Dad's actually nice to Mum. 452 00:24:25,741 --> 00:24:27,300 You did say he tore down a shed. 453 00:24:27,301 --> 00:24:30,380 Yeah, he just gets angry with himself, but he's never hit her. 454 00:24:30,381 --> 00:24:32,061 Does he speak to other women? 455 00:24:32,581 --> 00:24:34,500 - What? - Is he friendly with other women? 456 00:24:34,501 --> 00:24:37,180 What? No. He loves my mum. 457 00:24:37,181 --> 00:24:39,861 No, I'm asking whether any of his friends are women. 458 00:24:40,461 --> 00:24:43,460 No, his mates are his mates. 459 00:24:43,461 --> 00:24:44,581 And they're men? 460 00:24:45,141 --> 00:24:46,900 Is that wrong? What does that mean? 461 00:24:46,901 --> 00:24:49,021 No. No, that's not wrong. 462 00:24:50,741 --> 00:24:52,540 I thought we'd done talking about my dad. 463 00:24:52,541 --> 00:24:55,181 - Jamie, I'm just trying to understand-- - Understand. 464 00:24:55,701 --> 00:24:58,741 I know, but... none of this is nothing to do with him. 465 00:24:59,621 --> 00:25:01,620 - [sighs] - Okay, that's fine. 466 00:25:01,621 --> 00:25:04,701 - Do you have any mates who are women? - No. 467 00:25:06,021 --> 00:25:08,341 Like your dad, your mates are male? 468 00:25:09,541 --> 00:25:13,500 [sighs] The other shrink asks more normal questions, you know? 469 00:25:13,501 --> 00:25:15,100 - Okay. - Wanna know what he asks? 470 00:25:15,101 --> 00:25:17,340 - I can't know. - [scoffs] I'm just saying. 471 00:25:17,341 --> 00:25:20,300 I can't know, Jamie. My conclusions have to be independent. 472 00:25:20,301 --> 00:25:22,421 All right, okay. I won't say anything. 473 00:25:23,781 --> 00:25:25,621 What do you think about women? 474 00:25:26,701 --> 00:25:27,700 I like them. 475 00:25:27,701 --> 00:25:30,501 But you're not, like you say, particularly friends with them? 476 00:25:31,021 --> 00:25:32,140 I'm not a twat, though. 477 00:25:32,141 --> 00:25:35,141 - Are you attracted to women? - Yeah, I'm not gay. 478 00:25:35,701 --> 00:25:38,300 We've established you don't have a girlfriend. 479 00:25:38,301 --> 00:25:40,620 - Yeah. - But I don't think I asked before. 480 00:25:40,621 --> 00:25:42,260 Would you like a girlfriend? 481 00:25:42,261 --> 00:25:43,541 Yeah, who doesn't? 482 00:25:44,061 --> 00:25:46,460 If you had a girlfriend, what would you do with her? 483 00:25:46,461 --> 00:25:47,980 [hesitates] What does that mean? 484 00:25:47,981 --> 00:25:51,661 Well, would you take her out? If you did, where would you take her? 485 00:25:54,421 --> 00:25:55,701 [sighs] The cinema. 486 00:25:57,021 --> 00:25:58,541 To see what kind of film? 487 00:26:01,621 --> 00:26:02,461 A horror. 488 00:26:03,621 --> 00:26:04,821 Fifteen certificate? 489 00:26:05,701 --> 00:26:09,181 Mm. Yeah, they're pretty slack. You can get in. 490 00:26:10,061 --> 00:26:11,901 And after the cinema, would you 491 00:26:12,661 --> 00:26:14,860 take her for a walk, take her straight home? 492 00:26:14,861 --> 00:26:15,901 No. 493 00:26:16,621 --> 00:26:17,901 Not straight home. 494 00:26:19,261 --> 00:26:20,621 Would you want to kiss her? 495 00:26:21,581 --> 00:26:25,621 - Are you allowed to ask these questions? - What, you don't discuss this in PSHE? 496 00:26:26,221 --> 00:26:27,141 [Jamie sighs] 497 00:26:28,061 --> 00:26:29,700 What do you think is the normal amount 498 00:26:29,701 --> 00:26:33,181 someone your age would do sexually with a girl or boy? 499 00:26:34,301 --> 00:26:37,301 - I told you, I'm not gay. - I wasn't suggesting that you were. 500 00:26:38,581 --> 00:26:41,261 - You really want me to answer? - Yes, if you can. 501 00:26:42,661 --> 00:26:45,341 I don't know. Touching. Kissing. 502 00:26:45,861 --> 00:26:47,660 Well, what do you mean by touching? 503 00:26:47,661 --> 00:26:48,861 [clears throat] 504 00:26:49,821 --> 00:26:51,661 Touching her... Touching her bits. 505 00:26:52,181 --> 00:26:53,420 Her chest? 506 00:26:53,421 --> 00:26:55,261 - Yeah. - Her backside? 507 00:26:55,861 --> 00:26:57,301 - Yeah. - Her vulva? 508 00:26:58,141 --> 00:26:59,221 Her vagina? 509 00:26:59,821 --> 00:27:01,101 I don't know, maybe. 510 00:27:01,621 --> 00:27:03,301 - Probably not? - Maybe. 511 00:27:03,821 --> 00:27:05,020 [sighs] 512 00:27:05,021 --> 00:27:07,220 Are you sure you're allowed to ask these questions? 513 00:27:07,221 --> 00:27:11,580 So, you think it's normal for a 13-year-old heterosexual boy 514 00:27:11,581 --> 00:27:15,061 to have engaged in touching of a girl's chest and her backside? 515 00:27:16,381 --> 00:27:18,061 Above or below clothes? 516 00:27:18,701 --> 00:27:21,581 [sighs] Below... maybe. 517 00:27:22,101 --> 00:27:24,221 Above, mostly. 518 00:27:26,421 --> 00:27:29,381 I've actually done all that. Kissing and touching. 519 00:27:30,301 --> 00:27:31,381 Okay. 520 00:27:32,861 --> 00:27:35,620 And I've had two girls show me their tits. Chest. 521 00:27:35,621 --> 00:27:37,821 It's okay. You don't have to use my language. 522 00:27:38,621 --> 00:27:40,061 And I touched them, so... 523 00:27:41,981 --> 00:27:42,821 Okay. 524 00:27:45,301 --> 00:27:48,141 And one of them touched my, uh... my... my knob 525 00:27:48,661 --> 00:27:49,941 through my trousers. 526 00:27:51,261 --> 00:27:52,101 Okay. 527 00:27:54,021 --> 00:27:55,540 And I think she liked it. 528 00:27:55,541 --> 00:27:56,621 And you liked it? 529 00:27:57,381 --> 00:27:58,221 Of course. 530 00:28:00,701 --> 00:28:01,861 [sighs] 531 00:28:04,141 --> 00:28:05,221 Not really. 532 00:28:06,141 --> 00:28:07,580 You didn't like it? 533 00:28:07,581 --> 00:28:08,741 [exhales] 534 00:28:10,581 --> 00:28:11,741 [sighs] I dunno. 535 00:28:14,181 --> 00:28:16,741 There's no right or wrong answer in this room, Jamie. 536 00:28:17,261 --> 00:28:20,421 You do know that. It's just your best attempt at the truth. 537 00:28:24,221 --> 00:28:26,021 [sighs] Yeah. 538 00:28:27,101 --> 00:28:28,821 That... That didn't happen. 539 00:28:30,381 --> 00:28:33,861 - You weren't touched on your trousers? - No, I wasn't. 540 00:28:35,301 --> 00:28:37,980 And did two girls go topless with you? 541 00:28:37,981 --> 00:28:38,901 No, but... 542 00:28:39,781 --> 00:28:43,700 - [clears throat] I've seen photos, though. - You've seen porn photos? 543 00:28:43,701 --> 00:28:45,781 No, not porn. 544 00:28:46,421 --> 00:28:47,941 Everyone sees porn. 545 00:28:48,541 --> 00:28:51,581 Just these two girls in my year that I knew. Well, know. 546 00:28:54,221 --> 00:28:56,941 You saw photos of two girls in your year topless? 547 00:28:57,461 --> 00:28:58,461 Yeah. 548 00:28:59,301 --> 00:29:01,461 Would they be happy you saw those photos? 549 00:29:01,981 --> 00:29:03,301 Everyone else did. 550 00:29:09,941 --> 00:29:12,021 Was Katie one of those two girls? 551 00:29:14,741 --> 00:29:15,581 What? 552 00:29:16,261 --> 00:29:18,300 - How do you know that? - How did it feel-- 553 00:29:18,301 --> 00:29:21,260 - No. How did you guess that? - I didn't guess it. I asked it. 554 00:29:21,261 --> 00:29:23,460 And now I'd like to know what it felt like to see that. 555 00:29:23,461 --> 00:29:26,701 - You're asking whether I got a hard-on? - I'm asking how it felt. 556 00:29:27,861 --> 00:29:31,020 [scoffs] I... I liked it. Are we allowed to talk like this? 557 00:29:31,021 --> 00:29:34,260 How does it make you feel, looking at naked pictures of people? 558 00:29:34,261 --> 00:29:35,180 How do you think? 559 00:29:35,181 --> 00:29:36,700 How does it make you feel, 560 00:29:36,701 --> 00:29:39,101 looking at naked pictures of people you know? 561 00:29:39,621 --> 00:29:40,781 I dunno. Good. 562 00:29:41,381 --> 00:29:42,220 Powerful? 563 00:29:42,221 --> 00:29:44,221 - Do you feel like it gives you a power? - No. 564 00:29:44,701 --> 00:29:45,901 It's just weird. 565 00:29:46,861 --> 00:29:47,980 [sighs] 566 00:29:47,981 --> 00:29:49,741 Were you attracted to Katie? 567 00:29:52,461 --> 00:29:53,661 She wasn't my type. 568 00:29:54,501 --> 00:29:55,581 So you weren't? 569 00:29:56,421 --> 00:29:57,380 [sighs] 570 00:29:57,381 --> 00:29:59,220 She was quite... [sighs] 571 00:29:59,221 --> 00:30:01,021 ...no offense, but flat, you know? 572 00:30:02,621 --> 00:30:03,461 Right. 573 00:30:04,181 --> 00:30:07,621 Well, everyone else said it... who saw it. That's not just me. 574 00:30:08,341 --> 00:30:09,580 [clears throat] 575 00:30:09,581 --> 00:30:13,501 The picture got passed around the school. Snapchat, you know. 576 00:30:14,981 --> 00:30:16,141 It was just her... 577 00:30:16,661 --> 00:30:18,341 [hesitates] ...top half. 578 00:30:19,021 --> 00:30:20,581 Not, uh, anything else. 579 00:30:21,861 --> 00:30:24,021 She sent it to Fidget, and then he sent it on. 580 00:30:24,541 --> 00:30:26,621 Why did she send it to Fidget? 581 00:30:27,461 --> 00:30:28,981 I dunno. She fancied him. 582 00:30:29,541 --> 00:30:31,341 So she was trying to attract him? 583 00:30:32,061 --> 00:30:34,021 [sighs] I think he asked her. 584 00:30:34,541 --> 00:30:36,621 He's not gonna get any more pictures, though, is he? 585 00:30:37,261 --> 00:30:38,860 No. She's dead. 586 00:30:38,861 --> 00:30:40,941 [tense silence] 587 00:30:42,781 --> 00:30:44,580 [Jamie breathing shakily] 588 00:30:44,581 --> 00:30:46,100 No, I... 589 00:30:46,101 --> 00:30:47,701 I didn't mean from her. 590 00:30:49,541 --> 00:30:51,021 I meant from other girls. 591 00:30:52,061 --> 00:30:53,300 No one'll send him pictures 592 00:30:53,301 --> 00:30:57,100 because he wasn't careful with the one he got. [sighs] 593 00:30:57,101 --> 00:30:58,340 The twat. 594 00:30:58,341 --> 00:31:01,220 So you think he should have collected more pictures from more girls 595 00:31:01,221 --> 00:31:03,261 before he shared them with other boys? 596 00:31:05,181 --> 00:31:07,701 [sighs] Yeah. I dunno. 597 00:31:09,861 --> 00:31:10,901 [exhales] 598 00:31:18,101 --> 00:31:20,421 Why... Why did you say "She's dead" like that? 599 00:31:21,621 --> 00:31:22,901 Because she is. 600 00:31:27,461 --> 00:31:28,741 [Jamie sighs] 601 00:31:33,101 --> 00:31:35,660 Jamie, I asked whether you were attracted to women. 602 00:31:35,661 --> 00:31:37,821 Do you think women are attracted to you? 603 00:31:40,581 --> 00:31:41,900 What sort of question's that? 604 00:31:41,901 --> 00:31:45,301 Well, what do you think? Do you think girls are attracted to you? 605 00:31:47,221 --> 00:31:48,181 No. 606 00:31:49,781 --> 00:31:50,861 Of course not. 607 00:31:51,901 --> 00:31:53,141 Why, "of course not"? 608 00:31:56,061 --> 00:31:58,741 Because I'm... I... I'm ugly. 609 00:31:59,661 --> 00:32:00,741 [sighs] 610 00:32:01,261 --> 00:32:02,861 How does that make you feel? 611 00:32:04,861 --> 00:32:07,780 - Aren't you supposed to say I'm not ugly? - What I think isn't important. 612 00:32:07,781 --> 00:32:09,780 You don't say the things normal people say. 613 00:32:09,781 --> 00:32:11,500 How would you feel if I did? 614 00:32:11,501 --> 00:32:13,740 I don't know why you don't say things normal people say. 615 00:32:13,741 --> 00:32:16,740 I should have contradicted you when you said your dad was ashamed, 616 00:32:16,741 --> 00:32:20,700 and you think I should contradict you now when you tell me you think yourself ugly? 617 00:32:20,701 --> 00:32:22,661 [sighs] I dunno. 618 00:32:23,421 --> 00:32:26,541 I'm interested in the fact that you think you're ugly, Jamie. 619 00:32:28,341 --> 00:32:29,340 Yeah, I'm... 620 00:32:29,341 --> 00:32:30,820 [sighs deeply] 621 00:32:30,821 --> 00:32:31,820 I'm fascinating. 622 00:32:31,821 --> 00:32:32,940 I'm interested in it 623 00:32:32,941 --> 00:32:37,021 because what you think is more important to me than what is true, okay? 624 00:32:40,861 --> 00:32:43,461 So, how do you feel about being ugly? 625 00:32:45,741 --> 00:32:47,141 Well, how would you feel? 626 00:32:48,421 --> 00:32:49,541 You don't know. 627 00:32:50,381 --> 00:32:53,220 - You're not. You're dead pretty. - This isn't about me, Jamie. 628 00:32:53,221 --> 00:32:56,620 - You don't think you're pretty? - I'm not the interesting person. 629 00:32:56,621 --> 00:32:58,780 You don't think you're pretty? You do think I'm ugly? 630 00:32:58,781 --> 00:33:02,380 I haven't passed judgement on either of those things. For very good reason. 631 00:33:02,381 --> 00:33:04,620 - "For very good reason." - I want to understand you. 632 00:33:04,621 --> 00:33:07,420 To understand my understanding of my understanding of my understanding. 633 00:33:07,421 --> 00:33:08,340 Yes. 634 00:33:08,341 --> 00:33:09,740 [sighs] 635 00:33:09,741 --> 00:33:11,700 - The other bloke is much more easy. - Okay. 636 00:33:11,701 --> 00:33:13,780 Him checking whether I understand was much easier. 637 00:33:13,781 --> 00:33:16,741 - Whether I understand what I did. - They need two opinions for a reason. 638 00:33:17,261 --> 00:33:20,140 Look, no, fuck off! I didn't fucking say that! 639 00:33:20,141 --> 00:33:21,940 You're fucking putting words in me mouth! 640 00:33:21,941 --> 00:33:25,420 - It's a fucking trap in here! You are... - [guard] Hey! Jamie! [knocks] 641 00:33:25,421 --> 00:33:27,501 [Jamie panting] 642 00:33:36,821 --> 00:33:37,821 What was that? 643 00:33:39,021 --> 00:33:39,861 Hey? 644 00:33:40,381 --> 00:33:41,941 What the fuck was that? 645 00:33:43,661 --> 00:33:46,261 Signaling him away like a fucking queen, yeah? 646 00:33:59,461 --> 00:34:03,341 [calmly] I need you to sit down. 647 00:34:10,981 --> 00:34:12,181 [shouts] 648 00:34:16,901 --> 00:34:18,381 [chair clatters] 649 00:34:19,221 --> 00:34:20,381 Fuck. 650 00:34:21,501 --> 00:34:22,661 [under breath] Fuck. 651 00:34:24,461 --> 00:34:25,301 Fuck. 652 00:34:27,861 --> 00:34:29,141 [groans] 653 00:34:29,661 --> 00:34:30,781 Fuck's sake. 654 00:34:32,341 --> 00:34:34,541 - Are you going to sit down? - Fuck off! 655 00:34:37,541 --> 00:34:38,941 For fuck's sake. 656 00:34:40,021 --> 00:34:42,901 [under breath] Fuck. Fuck. 657 00:34:44,341 --> 00:34:45,940 [groans] 658 00:34:45,941 --> 00:34:48,021 [breathing nervously] 659 00:34:53,781 --> 00:34:54,741 Are you done? 660 00:34:56,941 --> 00:34:58,141 [sighs] 661 00:35:03,421 --> 00:35:04,301 Fine. 662 00:35:07,861 --> 00:35:09,341 I will fucking sit down. 663 00:35:12,781 --> 00:35:13,701 You happy now? 664 00:35:17,621 --> 00:35:18,461 Hey? 665 00:35:22,261 --> 00:35:23,781 Well, are you going now? 666 00:35:25,941 --> 00:35:26,981 Are you going? 667 00:35:28,181 --> 00:35:29,421 Would you like me to? 668 00:35:30,861 --> 00:35:32,341 It's not up to me, is it? 669 00:35:33,741 --> 00:35:35,781 If you want me to go, Jamie, I can go. 670 00:35:56,501 --> 00:36:01,661 You said in one of our previous sessions that you had friends, Tommy and Ryan. 671 00:36:03,221 --> 00:36:05,581 But that you wouldn't consider yourself popular. 672 00:36:08,421 --> 00:36:09,941 [sighs] Yeah. 673 00:36:10,541 --> 00:36:13,341 You said you were bullied. The three of you were bullied. 674 00:36:14,021 --> 00:36:15,980 People like you love talking about bullying. 675 00:36:15,981 --> 00:36:17,860 You said Tommy was called Round Pounds 676 00:36:17,861 --> 00:36:20,300 because his mum did her shopping at Poundland. 677 00:36:20,301 --> 00:36:21,780 Yeah, but she doesn't. 678 00:36:21,781 --> 00:36:23,340 And Ryan was called dumb. 679 00:36:23,341 --> 00:36:24,661 Ryan is dumb. 680 00:36:25,581 --> 00:36:26,780 That one was sort of true. 681 00:36:26,781 --> 00:36:29,820 - The three of you felt ostracized. - Big words coming out now. 682 00:36:29,821 --> 00:36:32,020 You said sometimes this would get physical. 683 00:36:32,021 --> 00:36:34,300 People would spit on you from classroom windows. 684 00:36:34,301 --> 00:36:36,181 You'd be tripped up and pushed. 685 00:36:40,221 --> 00:36:41,820 [sighs] Yeah. 686 00:36:41,821 --> 00:36:46,660 - You were called names, physically abused. - No. I was just tripped up and spat on. 687 00:36:46,661 --> 00:36:49,541 My question, Jamie, is why do you have an Instagram account? 688 00:36:50,061 --> 00:36:50,901 What? 689 00:36:51,581 --> 00:36:53,181 - I... I need one. - Why? 690 00:36:53,941 --> 00:36:55,941 To look at other people's accounts. 691 00:36:56,581 --> 00:36:58,101 You can't if you haven't got one. 692 00:36:58,821 --> 00:37:03,301 Right. And you follow lots of women on Instagram. Models. 693 00:37:04,101 --> 00:37:04,941 Yeah. 694 00:37:06,061 --> 00:37:08,420 You don't need to put photos up, though. Why do you? 695 00:37:08,421 --> 00:37:10,541 Put photos up of yourself, I mean? 696 00:37:11,501 --> 00:37:13,541 I dunno. Am I not allowed? 697 00:37:14,381 --> 00:37:15,221 Yeah. 698 00:37:16,341 --> 00:37:20,580 Is it to prove bullies wrong by showing the fun you have with Tommy and Ryan? 699 00:37:20,581 --> 00:37:21,580 What? No. 700 00:37:21,581 --> 00:37:23,580 To show the fun you have with your family? 701 00:37:23,581 --> 00:37:25,581 No way I'm putting anything up of them. 702 00:37:26,341 --> 00:37:28,820 If you've seen that, it's because my sister tagged me. 703 00:37:28,821 --> 00:37:31,620 Because you think someone might like one of your photos? 704 00:37:31,621 --> 00:37:34,660 You might get into a conversation, make a new friend, meet a girl? 705 00:37:34,661 --> 00:37:36,701 What? No. What you on about? 706 00:37:38,581 --> 00:37:39,741 [sighs] 707 00:37:42,101 --> 00:37:46,461 Katie commented on your photos on a number of different occasions. 708 00:37:47,661 --> 00:37:48,581 Uh, yeah. 709 00:37:53,861 --> 00:37:56,221 [hesitates] What are you doing? 710 00:38:02,941 --> 00:38:05,061 - What... What's this? - Budge up. 711 00:38:09,101 --> 00:38:10,821 She wrote this. 712 00:38:12,141 --> 00:38:15,380 No. Are... Are you allowed to ask these questions? 713 00:38:15,381 --> 00:38:17,900 - Has Dillon passed these questions fit? - Yes. 714 00:38:17,901 --> 00:38:19,541 [sighs, clears throat] 715 00:38:21,061 --> 00:38:24,021 He has. I'm allowed to ask about intimacies, Jamie. 716 00:38:25,021 --> 00:38:28,140 But if this makes you uncomfortable or you have any questions, 717 00:38:28,141 --> 00:38:31,381 there are people in this facility that can help you. Okay? 718 00:38:33,661 --> 00:38:34,861 [Jamie sighs] 719 00:38:37,381 --> 00:38:39,701 Katie wrote this on your Facebook feed. 720 00:38:40,621 --> 00:38:41,701 Facebook? 721 00:38:43,061 --> 00:38:44,261 Instagram. 722 00:38:45,981 --> 00:38:47,101 Are you all right? 723 00:38:48,101 --> 00:38:49,301 You look a bit red. 724 00:38:49,821 --> 00:38:51,581 Did I scare you when I shouted? 725 00:38:53,541 --> 00:38:56,301 - She wrote this on your Instagram. - I mean, I'm only 13. 726 00:38:56,981 --> 00:38:58,821 I don't think I look that scary. 727 00:39:03,861 --> 00:39:06,781 - Could you tell me what these emojis are? - How embarrassing is that? 728 00:39:07,741 --> 00:39:09,781 Getting scared of a 13-year-old. 729 00:39:11,221 --> 00:39:12,301 Wow. 730 00:39:13,621 --> 00:39:15,581 What do these emojis mean, Jamie? 731 00:39:20,981 --> 00:39:23,901 What do the kidney beans mean? They're kidney beans, right? 732 00:39:26,981 --> 00:39:30,581 She's pretending like I'm part of one of those truth groups. 733 00:39:31,541 --> 00:39:32,741 What truth groups? 734 00:39:34,461 --> 00:39:37,821 The ones that say that women don't want us and don't care. 735 00:39:39,221 --> 00:39:41,260 - Are you part of those? - No. 736 00:39:41,261 --> 00:39:42,820 But you know what they say? 737 00:39:42,821 --> 00:39:45,461 Yeah, 'cause everyone kept on going on about it. 738 00:39:45,981 --> 00:39:49,421 Incel stuff. So I had a look, but I didn't like it. 739 00:39:51,381 --> 00:39:54,981 And was you being an incel what she was saying with all of these? 740 00:39:57,101 --> 00:39:57,941 Yeah. 741 00:39:58,821 --> 00:40:00,261 Could you explain them all? 742 00:40:01,781 --> 00:40:03,221 [sighs] 743 00:40:05,901 --> 00:40:07,581 [huffs] 744 00:40:09,381 --> 00:40:13,060 Uh... want love, won't get it. 745 00:40:13,061 --> 00:40:14,421 [clears throat] 746 00:40:15,061 --> 00:40:16,660 My throat's killing. 747 00:40:16,661 --> 00:40:19,420 Uh, red pill, exploding. 748 00:40:19,421 --> 00:40:21,621 [clears throat] That's the same as the red pill. 749 00:40:22,581 --> 00:40:24,501 And then that's an 80-20 thing. 750 00:40:25,701 --> 00:40:27,021 What's an 80-20 thing? 751 00:40:29,021 --> 00:40:33,061 Where 80% of women are attracted to 20% of men. 752 00:40:34,741 --> 00:40:37,741 [clears throat] But I do think they're right about that, though. 753 00:40:41,741 --> 00:40:44,501 And lots of people liked her comments quite a lot. 754 00:40:46,141 --> 00:40:48,621 Yeah, they thought it was funny. 755 00:40:50,061 --> 00:40:52,101 You must have found that quite cruel. 756 00:40:54,341 --> 00:40:55,540 I suppose. 757 00:40:55,541 --> 00:40:57,501 Did she do this to anyone else? 758 00:40:58,021 --> 00:41:00,221 - No. - Well, why did she do it to you? 759 00:41:03,741 --> 00:41:05,861 Because... Because I'm ugly. 760 00:41:06,781 --> 00:41:10,741 - You think that's why she did it to you? - Well, I'm the ugliest, I suppose, so... 761 00:41:12,341 --> 00:41:13,861 Did you ever call her on it? 762 00:41:14,381 --> 00:41:15,981 - Yeah. - What did you say? 763 00:41:17,861 --> 00:41:21,260 I don't know. "I'm not what you say I am," or... 764 00:41:21,261 --> 00:41:22,661 And what did she say? 765 00:41:23,941 --> 00:41:24,981 [sighs] 766 00:41:26,581 --> 00:41:27,541 She just... 767 00:41:28,381 --> 00:41:32,341 She just smiled and said, "Okay," and walked away. 768 00:41:33,741 --> 00:41:35,500 And you never thought to tell anyone? 769 00:41:35,501 --> 00:41:38,180 - It's a bit late for that now. - That just must have hurt. 770 00:41:38,181 --> 00:41:39,341 I didn't kill her. 771 00:41:40,621 --> 00:41:44,380 You think I did because you've seen the video. You can't trust videos anymore. 772 00:41:44,381 --> 00:41:45,620 It's all fake news. 773 00:41:45,621 --> 00:41:47,781 - I'm not here to judge. - I didn't kill her. 774 00:41:48,381 --> 00:41:50,580 She was a bitch. Even you can see that. 775 00:41:50,581 --> 00:41:52,701 I should've killed her, but I didn't. I just... 776 00:41:53,221 --> 00:41:54,700 [clears throat] 777 00:41:54,701 --> 00:41:55,741 All... All I did... 778 00:41:56,261 --> 00:41:57,381 [sighs] 779 00:41:59,261 --> 00:42:00,501 All I did was... 780 00:42:02,261 --> 00:42:03,381 [sighs] 781 00:42:04,741 --> 00:42:05,861 [scoffs] 782 00:42:06,421 --> 00:42:07,620 Look at ya. 783 00:42:07,621 --> 00:42:10,301 All hopeful, like I'm gonna say something important. 784 00:42:11,101 --> 00:42:13,101 [scoffs, sighs] 785 00:42:15,701 --> 00:42:16,581 All I did... 786 00:42:18,341 --> 00:42:21,021 I did ask her out... after the photo. 787 00:42:21,981 --> 00:42:24,381 I went round and said I was sorry that they'd done that to her. 788 00:42:24,901 --> 00:42:27,101 Showing everyone her tits. Her chest. 789 00:42:27,781 --> 00:42:30,061 And I wanted to know if she'd come to the fair with me. 790 00:42:31,501 --> 00:42:35,821 You know, I just thought she might be weak, or that... 791 00:42:36,341 --> 00:42:38,261 I just thought she might be weak, so... 792 00:42:39,501 --> 00:42:40,500 [sighs] 793 00:42:40,501 --> 00:42:43,260 'Cause everyone was calling her slag, 794 00:42:43,261 --> 00:42:45,260 you know, or flat or whatever, 795 00:42:45,261 --> 00:42:47,781 so I thought when she was, like, that, weak, 796 00:42:48,461 --> 00:42:50,861 she might... she might like me. 797 00:42:51,781 --> 00:42:52,861 [sighs] 798 00:42:53,461 --> 00:42:55,540 It's clever, don't you think? 799 00:42:55,541 --> 00:42:58,101 To ask her out when everyone else didn't like her? 800 00:42:59,021 --> 00:43:01,380 Well, I went round and said I was sorry and everything. 801 00:43:01,381 --> 00:43:03,141 That Fidget was a wanker. 802 00:43:03,741 --> 00:43:06,221 And I said I'd take her to the fair if she liked. 803 00:43:06,981 --> 00:43:10,981 Her weakness made her more gettable, was your theory? 804 00:43:12,861 --> 00:43:14,021 Mm-hmm. Yeah. 805 00:43:16,981 --> 00:43:18,981 I thought you said you didn't like her. 806 00:43:19,581 --> 00:43:23,861 Uh, she's flat. That's a fact. But I didn't mind that. That's okay. 807 00:43:25,661 --> 00:43:27,901 I wore my best tracksuit I could find, and... 808 00:43:28,821 --> 00:43:30,100 [sighs] 809 00:43:30,101 --> 00:43:33,060 I don't even know why I'm telling you all this, but I just said, 810 00:43:33,061 --> 00:43:34,780 "You wanna come to the fair?" 811 00:43:34,781 --> 00:43:36,101 And what did she say? 812 00:43:38,821 --> 00:43:39,941 [sighs] 813 00:43:40,541 --> 00:43:41,541 She just... 814 00:43:43,181 --> 00:43:45,941 She just laughed and said, "Oh, I'm not that desperate." 815 00:43:47,421 --> 00:43:49,741 And the emoji messages came after that? 816 00:43:51,781 --> 00:43:52,741 Uh, yeah. 817 00:43:53,261 --> 00:43:57,220 She was, let's say, attacking you for presuming you could ask her out? 818 00:43:57,221 --> 00:43:59,461 - Your words. - You think they're unfair? 819 00:44:00,021 --> 00:44:03,621 [hesitates] You think she's a bitch, right? 820 00:44:04,141 --> 00:44:05,181 Doing all that. 821 00:44:05,861 --> 00:44:07,821 You think she's a bullying bitch. 822 00:44:08,541 --> 00:44:09,581 [sighs] 823 00:44:11,061 --> 00:44:13,540 She was a bullying bitch, right? 824 00:44:13,541 --> 00:44:16,020 But that's the thing, you see? 825 00:44:16,021 --> 00:44:18,221 That night, I didn't touch her. 826 00:44:19,981 --> 00:44:21,981 I could've touched her, but I didn't. I just... 827 00:44:22,501 --> 00:44:25,581 I had a knife. She was scared. But I didn't do that. 828 00:44:27,581 --> 00:44:31,741 I could have touched any part of her body. I really wanted to, but I didn't. I just... 829 00:44:34,341 --> 00:44:36,021 Most boys would've touched her. 830 00:44:40,381 --> 00:44:41,741 So that makes me better. 831 00:44:46,261 --> 00:44:47,461 [softly] Don't you think? 832 00:45:03,181 --> 00:45:05,181 [rain pattering on roof] 833 00:45:21,501 --> 00:45:22,781 [sighs] 834 00:45:24,661 --> 00:45:26,980 I didn't... I didn't mean any of that. I'm just tired. 835 00:45:26,981 --> 00:45:30,620 I'm talking too much. I'm tired. I'm just... [sighs] 836 00:45:30,621 --> 00:45:33,061 I'm so, so tired. 837 00:45:35,541 --> 00:45:36,900 [sighs] I didn't kill her. 838 00:45:36,901 --> 00:45:39,301 Jamie, do you understand what death is? 839 00:45:40,141 --> 00:45:42,461 - What? - Do you understand what death is? 840 00:45:43,541 --> 00:45:44,540 Yeah. 841 00:45:44,541 --> 00:45:47,100 You understand that Katie's gone and she can't come back? 842 00:45:47,101 --> 00:45:48,301 I didn't do it. 843 00:45:48,821 --> 00:45:50,860 That whatever claims you make as to her character-- 844 00:45:50,861 --> 00:45:54,221 - I didn't mean she was a bitch. - Whatever claims you make, she's gone. 845 00:45:55,301 --> 00:45:56,540 That whoever did kill her, 846 00:45:56,541 --> 00:45:59,261 they extinguished the possibility of her future life. 847 00:46:03,061 --> 00:46:05,020 I didn't mean to be mean about her. She just did-- 848 00:46:05,021 --> 00:46:08,381 - Jamie, listen. Do you understand? - She just didn't like me. 849 00:46:10,181 --> 00:46:12,061 Yeah, I'm not dumb. 850 00:46:13,581 --> 00:46:16,421 - Do you understand that murder is a crime? - Yeah. 851 00:46:17,061 --> 00:46:20,340 You understand that if you're found guilty, you'll be held in detention? 852 00:46:20,341 --> 00:46:23,261 - Who doesn't know that? - Understand who will make the decision? 853 00:46:24,141 --> 00:46:26,381 - Judge. Jury. - Okay. 854 00:46:33,741 --> 00:46:35,661 Jamie, this is our last session. 855 00:46:36,981 --> 00:46:37,820 What? 856 00:46:37,821 --> 00:46:39,860 - What I would encourage you to-- - No. Why? 857 00:46:39,861 --> 00:46:42,740 Take advantage of any mental health services that are offered. 858 00:46:42,741 --> 00:46:44,700 - No. Why? - I think you'll benefit. 859 00:46:44,701 --> 00:46:47,140 - No, I won't. - Well, that's just what I think. 860 00:46:47,141 --> 00:46:49,660 And then you come back. You see me? 861 00:46:49,661 --> 00:46:51,861 Unfortunately, I'm needed elsewhere. 862 00:46:53,501 --> 00:46:57,460 - It's just fucking done, is it? All of it? - I hope you take what I said seriously. 863 00:46:57,461 --> 00:47:00,620 - Thanks for your time. I'll ask Frank-- - Thanks for my time? 864 00:47:00,621 --> 00:47:04,300 - Frank! I'm grateful that you've spoken-- - You think I'm being honest? 865 00:47:04,301 --> 00:47:07,420 - Are you gonna tell the judge? - I think you've spoken with honesty. 866 00:47:07,421 --> 00:47:09,620 But all I'm advising the judge on is your understanding. 867 00:47:09,621 --> 00:47:12,781 My understanding, yes. [sighs] 868 00:47:14,621 --> 00:47:16,740 - It doesn't seem like a proper goodbye. - [Briony] It is. 869 00:47:16,741 --> 00:47:18,900 - It doesn't seem like one. - [Frank] That's enough. 870 00:47:18,901 --> 00:47:20,380 No, we haven't finished. 871 00:47:20,381 --> 00:47:22,660 - We have. Thank you, Frank. - No, no! [sighs] 872 00:47:22,661 --> 00:47:24,181 Can I ask you something? 873 00:47:24,901 --> 00:47:25,821 Yes. 874 00:47:26,981 --> 00:47:27,981 [sighs] 875 00:47:28,781 --> 00:47:31,181 [hesitates] Do you like me? 876 00:47:42,101 --> 00:47:45,300 - I was here as a professional, Jamie. - Don't you think like that, then? 877 00:47:45,301 --> 00:47:48,340 - My job was to assess you. - Because I like you. 878 00:47:48,341 --> 00:47:50,860 Not like that. Not fancying you. Just as a person. 879 00:47:50,861 --> 00:47:53,700 - [guard] Okay, son, come on. - No, don't you even like me a bit? 880 00:47:53,701 --> 00:47:55,581 What did you think about me, then? 881 00:47:56,181 --> 00:47:58,700 - Decide, come on! - [Briony] This was really useful. 882 00:47:58,701 --> 00:48:00,980 Don't you go fucking telling them what I did! 883 00:48:00,981 --> 00:48:02,540 - Don't you dare! - Whoa, come on. 884 00:48:02,541 --> 00:48:05,820 Don't you go fucking... Get the fuck off me! Don't you dare! 885 00:48:05,821 --> 00:48:07,140 - Hey! - Fuck! 886 00:48:07,141 --> 00:48:09,860 - Come on. Jamie, man, please. - Don't you even like me a bit? 887 00:48:09,861 --> 00:48:11,020 Okay? Jamie, come on. 888 00:48:11,021 --> 00:48:13,100 - What did you think about me, then? - Okay. 889 00:48:13,101 --> 00:48:14,821 Just tell my dad I'm all right! 890 00:48:15,501 --> 00:48:18,220 - Tell him that I'm okay! - [guard] Jamie, you're hurting yourself. 891 00:48:18,221 --> 00:48:20,540 - [Jamie] Tell him that I'm all right! - [guard] Calm down. 892 00:48:20,541 --> 00:48:21,860 [Jamie] Tell him I'm all right! 893 00:48:21,861 --> 00:48:24,700 - Tell him I'm okay, please! - [guard shouting] 894 00:48:24,701 --> 00:48:27,461 [whimpers, exhales shakily] 895 00:48:36,221 --> 00:48:37,661 [sighs deeply] 896 00:48:43,461 --> 00:48:46,501 [takes a slow, deep breath] 897 00:48:49,421 --> 00:48:51,421 [crying softly] 898 00:48:57,501 --> 00:48:59,501 [breath grows steady] 899 00:49:28,941 --> 00:49:30,061 [sniffles] 900 00:49:36,261 --> 00:49:37,900 [groans] 901 00:49:37,901 --> 00:49:39,421 Oh God. 902 00:49:40,781 --> 00:49:41,941 [huffs] 903 00:49:47,181 --> 00:49:49,261 [sighs, sniffles] 904 00:49:54,901 --> 00:49:57,021 [somber instrumental music playing] 905 00:50:04,741 --> 00:50:06,741 [rain pattering loudly] 906 00:50:15,701 --> 00:50:19,581 [somber music continues] 907 00:50:19,581 --> 00:50:24,581 DOWNLOADED FROM WWW.AWAFIM.TV 908 00:50:19,581 --> 00:50:29,581 For latest movies and series with subtitles Visit WWW.AWAFIM.TV Today 64471

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