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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,860 Right then, the minefield that is pricing. 2 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,760 So whenever I mentor or educate photographers one 3 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,220 -to-one I can guarantee that without fail 4 00:00:25,220 --> 00:00:27,920 questions such as what should I charge, when 5 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,760 do I put my prices up or just 6 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,160 any general question geared around pricing will undoubtedly 7 00:00:33,160 --> 00:00:34,380 be high on their agenda. 8 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,660 And rightly so, it's a complex issue and 9 00:00:37,660 --> 00:00:39,100 when you work on your own it's really 10 00:00:39,100 --> 00:00:41,040 hard to know if you are doing the 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:41,520 right thing. 12 00:00:41,900 --> 00:00:43,940 There is a very fine balance between being 13 00:00:43,940 --> 00:00:47,700 underpriced but busy versus overpriced and struggling to 14 00:00:47,700 --> 00:00:47,900 book. 15 00:00:48,480 --> 00:00:49,500 So let's talk about it. 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,280 And the first thing to note here is 17 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,380 that I don't have all the answers for 18 00:00:54,380 --> 00:00:54,600 you. 19 00:00:55,340 --> 00:00:57,520 I'm not sure anyone ever has the perfect 20 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:58,020 solution. 21 00:00:58,640 --> 00:00:59,200 Do you know why? 22 00:00:59,900 --> 00:01:04,019 Because everyone has constantly changing circumstances and pricing 23 00:01:04,019 --> 00:01:05,500 is unique and personal to you. 24 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:07,440 I'm not here to tell you what you 25 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:08,000 should charge. 26 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,920 This is exclusive to you and factors such 27 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,320 as your location, your experience, your brand, your 28 00:01:14,320 --> 00:01:18,160 profile, your competition, they all feature and influence 29 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:18,760 the outcome. 30 00:01:20,020 --> 00:01:21,660 But what I do hope you take from 31 00:01:21,660 --> 00:01:23,900 this episode is a different mindset and approach 32 00:01:23,900 --> 00:01:27,320 to how you address your pricing strategy, how 33 00:01:27,320 --> 00:01:29,200 to price and when to increase. 34 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,700 I'm going to throw a few little curveballs 35 00:01:32,700 --> 00:01:35,140 at you and hopefully dispel a few myths 36 00:01:35,140 --> 00:01:37,600 around pricing and give you something to think 37 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:37,860 about. 38 00:01:38,700 --> 00:01:40,780 Before we do start talking about it, I'm 39 00:01:40,780 --> 00:01:41,840 not here to judge anyone. 40 00:01:42,380 --> 00:01:44,280 You ultimately have to balance getting the most 41 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,560 for what you do versus earning a living 42 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,320 to feed whatever lifestyle or need you want. 43 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,660 You might be the breadwinner in your family 44 00:01:51,660 --> 00:01:53,880 and therefore have the added pressure of needing 45 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:54,800 to make sales. 46 00:01:55,460 --> 00:01:57,180 Or this might be a side hustle for 47 00:01:57,180 --> 00:01:58,640 you, which means you can afford to take 48 00:01:58,640 --> 00:01:59,320 more risk. 49 00:02:00,220 --> 00:02:02,280 So let me start off by telling you 50 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,480 all that as of right now in early 51 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,560 2021, I still want to charge more. 52 00:02:08,100 --> 00:02:10,120 Even though I'm fully aware I charge a 53 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:10,800 considerable amount. 54 00:02:11,660 --> 00:02:13,700 I'm currently five to £6,000 per wedding, 55 00:02:13,780 --> 00:02:15,420 but I'd love to charge £10,000 a 56 00:02:15,420 --> 00:02:15,600 wedding. 57 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,400 That said, I can still remember being at 58 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,700 £1,200 and thinking, whoa, that's a lot 59 00:02:21,700 --> 00:02:22,040 of money. 60 00:02:22,980 --> 00:02:23,580 And it is. 61 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:25,960 If your business model is to stay local 62 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,760 and shoot 40 plus weddings a year, £1 63 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,300 ,200, £1,500 is brilliant. 64 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,420 Again, these are my experiences and my goal 65 00:02:33,420 --> 00:02:35,500 is to maximise what I charge per wedding 66 00:02:35,500 --> 00:02:37,360 in order to keep the volume low. 67 00:02:39,340 --> 00:02:40,920 First curveball coming up. 68 00:02:41,140 --> 00:02:41,500 Are you ready? 69 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,820 Some people won't book you because you're too 70 00:02:45,820 --> 00:02:46,260 cheap. 71 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,460 There, I said it and I'm going to 72 00:02:48,460 --> 00:02:48,880 say it again. 73 00:02:49,180 --> 00:02:52,620 Some people won't book you because you're too 74 00:02:52,620 --> 00:02:53,220 cheap. 75 00:02:53,540 --> 00:02:54,440 Did you hear me? 76 00:02:55,180 --> 00:02:56,440 But the question is why? 77 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:57,980 Well, it's simple. 78 00:02:58,620 --> 00:02:59,100 Doubt. 79 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,640 Price can often be a reflection of your 80 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:02,920 skill, talent or demand. 81 00:03:03,420 --> 00:03:06,180 And if your rate doesn't match the consumer's 82 00:03:06,180 --> 00:03:09,540 perceived idea of value, you make them doubt 83 00:03:09,540 --> 00:03:11,980 you because they wonder what's the catch. 84 00:03:12,740 --> 00:03:13,740 And here's the thing. 85 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,620 We all hear from those consumers who can't 86 00:03:16,620 --> 00:03:18,660 afford us because they tell us, right? 87 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,520 Hey, Sam, we love your work, but I'm 88 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:22,860 sorry, you're a bit out of budget. 89 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,120 We found some other photographers who are £500 90 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:25,740 cheaper. 91 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:26,760 Is there anything you can do? 92 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,660 We've all had those emails, right? 93 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:32,720 But let's flip that on its head. 94 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,100 How many of us have had an email 95 00:03:35,100 --> 00:03:37,840 saying you're cheaper than everyone else we looked 96 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:38,100 at. 97 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:39,780 So we'd like to go ahead and book. 98 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,220 If people continually told you that, what would 99 00:03:44,220 --> 00:03:44,520 happen? 100 00:03:45,500 --> 00:03:47,140 You put your prices up, right? 101 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:48,140 Am I right? 102 00:03:48,340 --> 00:03:49,020 I hope I'm right. 103 00:03:49,980 --> 00:03:51,420 But you don't want to put your prices 104 00:03:51,420 --> 00:03:54,200 up because you're scared after Sally and Steve 105 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,620 emailed to ask you for discount. 106 00:03:57,980 --> 00:04:00,520 Do you see how those discount inquiry emails 107 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,460 can hold you back and create fear? 108 00:04:04,180 --> 00:04:06,500 It's also important to know we all have 109 00:04:06,500 --> 00:04:09,620 different ideas of what value should cost and 110 00:04:09,620 --> 00:04:10,740 value isn't a bargain. 111 00:04:11,060 --> 00:04:14,220 It's worth it's about whether you provide worth 112 00:04:14,220 --> 00:04:15,120 to your clients. 113 00:04:15,899 --> 00:04:18,440 And remember, if Range Rover didn't provide value 114 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,800 or worth, they wouldn't sell any cars for 115 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,560 £80,000 because everyone would just drive a 116 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,660 £25,000 Nissan Qashqai because it still does 117 00:04:26,660 --> 00:04:27,700 the same job, right? 118 00:04:28,340 --> 00:04:28,900 Wrong. 119 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:30,300 It doesn't. 120 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:32,620 Next curve ball. 121 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,460 There will always be people who can't afford 122 00:04:35,460 --> 00:04:35,680 you. 123 00:04:36,780 --> 00:04:39,240 As I've gone through my pricing journey, and 124 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,940 I've been through it charging £800, £1,200, 125 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,200 £2,500, £3,500 and so on. 126 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,980 I would always find myself thinking Mark and 127 00:04:49,980 --> 00:04:52,060 Lucy couldn't afford me if I go to 128 00:04:52,060 --> 00:04:52,620 that price. 129 00:04:53,020 --> 00:04:54,060 And that was a great wedding. 130 00:04:54,980 --> 00:04:56,040 But here's the thing I've learned. 131 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,540 As you close the door on that market 132 00:04:58,540 --> 00:05:00,780 and say goodbye to those who are unlikely 133 00:05:00,780 --> 00:05:03,120 to have budget for you, you open the 134 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,440 door to a new market, to new people 135 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:06,880 who can and do have budget. 136 00:05:07,500 --> 00:05:09,900 But also it's important to recognise the shift 137 00:05:09,900 --> 00:05:11,340 in balance when you do begin to charge 138 00:05:11,340 --> 00:05:11,640 more. 139 00:05:12,420 --> 00:05:14,140 A higher rate doesn't just mean you shoot 140 00:05:14,140 --> 00:05:14,480 less. 141 00:05:15,060 --> 00:05:16,440 It also means you can give more to 142 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,480 those clients who do book you, providing a 143 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:19,180 better service. 144 00:05:19,840 --> 00:05:21,380 And as it frees up time in your 145 00:05:21,380 --> 00:05:24,020 schedule, because you're shooting 30 weddings instead of 146 00:05:24,020 --> 00:05:26,840 55, you can give your business the TLC 147 00:05:26,840 --> 00:05:27,460 it needs. 148 00:05:27,700 --> 00:05:29,620 You have more time to focus on marketing 149 00:05:29,620 --> 00:05:32,000 and social media, which in turn increases your 150 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,560 brand awareness, which in turn leads to more 151 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:35,200 inquiries. 152 00:05:36,280 --> 00:05:38,500 And at every single price point, there will 153 00:05:38,500 --> 00:05:40,800 always be different levels of affordability. 154 00:05:41,660 --> 00:05:43,140 And what I mean by that is that 155 00:05:43,140 --> 00:05:44,880 you can be charging £2,000 a wedding, 156 00:05:45,220 --> 00:05:46,920 and some people who book you will have 157 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,860 absolutely maxed themselves out to book you because 158 00:05:49,860 --> 00:05:50,700 they love your work. 159 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,200 But equally, there will be some couples who 160 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,580 book you to whom £2,000 isn't a 161 00:05:55,580 --> 00:05:56,300 great sum of money. 162 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,520 Just to reinforce this idea, let's go shopping, 163 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:00,900 shall we? 164 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,940 Okay, Net-A-Porter, let's see what you've 165 00:06:06,940 --> 00:06:07,200 got. 166 00:06:08,820 --> 00:06:11,820 Okay, let's go and shop. 167 00:06:11,900 --> 00:06:12,960 Let's say something completely random. 168 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:14,440 Let's do jewellery. 169 00:06:14,580 --> 00:06:15,320 Let's do earrings. 170 00:06:15,820 --> 00:06:16,200 Okay. 171 00:06:16,940 --> 00:06:17,160 Right. 172 00:06:17,220 --> 00:06:17,380 Okay. 173 00:06:17,460 --> 00:06:18,640 So there's a few there. 174 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,860 Not cheap for an earring, a few quid. 175 00:06:21,260 --> 00:06:23,400 £75, £110, £400. 176 00:06:23,820 --> 00:06:24,060 Okay. 177 00:06:24,580 --> 00:06:27,900 Let's change the filter to price high low. 178 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,100 Hold on a second. 179 00:06:32,340 --> 00:06:34,740 What the, shut the front door. 180 00:06:35,940 --> 00:06:36,900 Is this for real? 181 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:38,480 Wait. 182 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:39,220 Right. 183 00:06:39,380 --> 00:06:39,600 Okay. 184 00:06:44,300 --> 00:06:46,240 Sweet baby Jesus and the orphans. 185 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:47,180 Whoo. 186 00:06:48,300 --> 00:06:49,460 Look at that. 187 00:06:49,860 --> 00:06:50,340 Right. 188 00:06:50,580 --> 00:06:52,460 You may be wondering why I've chosen to 189 00:06:52,460 --> 00:06:53,020 show you this. 190 00:06:53,540 --> 00:06:55,260 What do earrings on Net-A-Porter have 191 00:06:55,260 --> 00:06:56,560 to do with wedding photography, Sam? 192 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:58,720 What course have I signed up to here? 193 00:06:58,760 --> 00:06:59,520 I can hear you cry. 194 00:07:00,020 --> 00:07:02,260 Well, for me, it gives perspective. 195 00:07:02,660 --> 00:07:05,300 If that doesn't make you feel like you 196 00:07:05,300 --> 00:07:07,180 can charge a little bit more and you're 197 00:07:07,180 --> 00:07:09,100 worthy of that higher rate, I don't know 198 00:07:09,100 --> 00:07:09,460 what will. 199 00:07:11,060 --> 00:07:12,320 It's all about mindset. 200 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,280 And something I've been trying to work on 201 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,460 over the past year or so has been 202 00:07:16,460 --> 00:07:18,600 my conditioning towards wealth and money. 203 00:07:19,300 --> 00:07:21,140 And I'm trying to recognise that I do 204 00:07:21,140 --> 00:07:23,600 deserve to charge what I do, that I 205 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:24,140 am worthy. 206 00:07:25,060 --> 00:07:27,580 Because if you were to stereotype photographers, I 207 00:07:27,580 --> 00:07:29,080 think it would be pretty fair to say 208 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,000 that on the whole, we come from a 209 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,380 working to middle class background. 210 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,180 Most people in the arts do. 211 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:35,260 I certainly do. 212 00:07:35,820 --> 00:07:37,940 My parents worked for the council and NHS. 213 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:39,460 We never struggled financially. 214 00:07:39,860 --> 00:07:42,620 But we certainly were never spoiled with wealth. 215 00:07:43,260 --> 00:07:45,360 It's a world I never really knew existed. 216 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:46,660 I was never aware of. 217 00:07:47,180 --> 00:07:48,340 But people do have wealth. 218 00:07:48,740 --> 00:07:49,880 That world does exist. 219 00:07:51,740 --> 00:07:53,840 And your branding is there to help you 220 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,580 justify your rate to that world if you 221 00:07:56,580 --> 00:07:57,120 want it to. 222 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,340 It should provide confidence to the consumer through 223 00:08:00,340 --> 00:08:03,520 your work, through your identity, through your website, 224 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,120 that you are worthy of what you charge. 225 00:08:06,780 --> 00:08:08,880 Try and see your branding as an opportunity 226 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,260 to reinforce your value and worth. 227 00:08:12,580 --> 00:08:15,020 And whilst we're on confidence, you have to 228 00:08:15,020 --> 00:08:16,760 believe that you are worthy to receive a 229 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:17,260 higher rate. 230 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,140 If you don't believe in yourself, how can 231 00:08:20,140 --> 00:08:20,620 a consumer? 232 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,760 Because your rate is really a reflection of 233 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,920 your development and skill as a photographer. 234 00:08:26,540 --> 00:08:28,220 Which leads me on to my final question. 235 00:08:29,060 --> 00:08:30,060 And it's a big question. 236 00:08:30,140 --> 00:08:31,020 I get asked this a lot. 237 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:32,960 When do I put my prices up? 238 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:35,419 And for me, the answer is simple. 239 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,100 When your demand exceeds your availability. 240 00:08:39,159 --> 00:08:41,200 You need to focus on being busy first, 241 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,000 building your business and brand awareness up before 242 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,560 you can start to increase your rate. 243 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,220 But if your rate is a reflection of 244 00:08:48,220 --> 00:08:50,760 your skill and development, and you aren't continually 245 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,220 turning work away, you need to work on 246 00:08:53,220 --> 00:08:54,880 your development before anything else. 247 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,340 One pitfall to be wary of is booking 248 00:08:58,340 --> 00:09:00,300 yourself up for key dates too far out, 249 00:09:00,860 --> 00:09:02,960 and not recognising that your work and brand 250 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,280 will have improved and grown by the time 251 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:06,200 that date comes around. 252 00:09:07,220 --> 00:09:09,200 I know enough photographers who have fully booked 253 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,140 themselves out far too early. 254 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,260 And you can easily be in a position 255 00:09:13,260 --> 00:09:14,940 where you're shooting a wedding for 800 pounds 256 00:09:14,940 --> 00:09:17,160 one day, because they booked you three years 257 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,420 ago, and you've since turned away 12 other 258 00:09:19,420 --> 00:09:20,400 enquiries for that date. 259 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,020 Then the following weekend, you're shooting one for 260 00:09:23,020 --> 00:09:25,060 two and a half thousand pounds, and they 261 00:09:25,060 --> 00:09:26,140 booked you six months out. 262 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,040 You will resent the 800 pound booking. 263 00:09:30,620 --> 00:09:32,520 And my final thought for you to finish 264 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,180 on when it comes to your pricing journey. 265 00:09:34,980 --> 00:09:36,900 Don't forget you need to experience life as 266 00:09:36,900 --> 00:09:37,060 well. 267 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,520 I'm not here to tell you how many 268 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,200 you should shoot or what you should charge. 269 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,040 But don't give yourself away. 270 00:09:43,780 --> 00:09:44,600 Don't sell your soul. 271 00:09:45,180 --> 00:09:45,780 Take breaks. 272 00:09:46,420 --> 00:09:48,720 You deserve to live, travel and experience just 273 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,180 like the couples you're documenting are. 18324

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