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I received this in my e-mail on a Sunday morning.

I think the date was March 5th.

The e-mail had come in from our cell expert, Rick Green,

at 5 a.m. -- he had been up all night.

He saw this, what he calls an artifact,

which is the footprint on the cellphone of a Google search

conducted on Jennifer McCabe's phone.

It says January 29, 2022, at 2:27 and 40 seconds.

"How long to die in cold."

And if that search was deleted by the user,

you get a red "yes" flag in this column.

And this would indicate that it was deleted.

I'm on trial for my life right now.

They want you to believe that I killed John,

but their rush to prosecute me will bite them in the ass.

If Jen McCabe knew at 2:27 that John was about to be

or was placed in the cold,

that's highly incriminating.

[director] Yeah.

[suspenseful orchestral music playing]

[David] We kind of get at,

you know, what is the -- the million-dollar question here,

which is...

"Did the search happen at 2:27 a.m.?"

Jennifer McCabe's 2:27 a.m. Google search was really

bombshell information.

And so, very early on, we were hopeful that the media

would take the Karen Read story and run with it,

but they didn't.

So the coverage was essentially dead,

and it was not by our choice.

We would have preferred to have the media

shine a spotlight here.

Welcome to the live show, ladies and gentlemen.

I am your fearless host here.

They call me Uncle Turtleboy around these parts.

[Flint] Turtleboy, on his Twitter, calls himself

"an award-winning journalist."

I'm not sure where those awards come from,

but his real name is Aidan Kearney.

He was a history teacher in Worcester County,

and then left and became a blogger.

Joining us tonight, our special guest blogger,

social media personality, Aidan Kearney,

also known as Turtleboy.

The Karen Read case really started to blow up

when Turtleboy started shining a light on Karen's innocence.

What we know it to be is a cover-up.

It's outrageous, outrageous.

[Jon] I've been a big fan of Turtleboy for many years,

and me and Karen, we had some discussion about,

you know, possibly reaching out to him because we've seen him

uncover some massive scandals.

What really caught my attention was a court filing in April

about the Google search.

And every page I read further, my jaw just dropped.

[Kristina] That 2:27 Google search was one of those stories that

Turtleboy reported early on in this case that the people

who support Karen Read latched onto as evidence of a cover-up.

Court paperwork appears to show a link between murder suspect

Karen Read and the blogger known as Turtleboy.

According to the prosecution, the defense was selectively

leaking bits of information for Turtleboy

and sort of guiding him on the path of,

"Hey, this should be your next story,"

or, "Here's information for a new story."

[Sue] Defense attorneys have used the media

since the dawn of time to forward stories.

We wouldn't be in this business if we didn't get leaks and have

anonymous sources.

So it's definitely a media strategy.

[Karen] My lawyers told me we could share anything with Turtleboy,

as long as it was public, and not for me to do it

directly, to go through a third party.

And then I started to get nervous about who I was using

for a third party.

So I eventually just started sending things directly.

And then we started talking about the case and probably

once a day, almost every day, five, six days a week.

He drew a lot of eyeballs.

There wasn't a ton of attention on this case until he started

blogging about it and speaking about it.

I took up the cause of somebody arrested for murder.

[Paul] When he started posting all these stories,

I started watching all of them.

And I just kept getting more involved.

We started doing standouts.

We'd go stand out over overpass on the highway

and hold the sign.

And the idea was to get as many people to know about

the Karen Read case as possible.

[horn beeping]

It seems to me that there's no middle ground.

You're either pro-Karen Read

or you are pro-prosecution, pro-police.

It's gotten really vitriolic to the point that friends

and neighbors are no longer talking because of this case.

Turtleboy is the primary reason that there are people

out in front of that courthouse every single day right now.

-[horns beeping] -[protesters cheering]

[protesters] Free Karen Read!

[Jennifer C.] The problem is

he's crossed the boundary concerning

jury selection and tainting a jury pool.

And he has, on megaphone,

said that that's his purpose.

[protesters] Free Karen Read! Free Karen Read!

[Brendan] The atmosphere around the courthouse

changed very quickly.

It was a single day where there were a number of folks standing

on the courthouse steps,

and they were booing Johnny's family

as they were walking into the courthouse, which at first,

I frankly had trouble processing, like,

"What -- what's -- why are they doing this?"

And then it became very clear that

we had underestimated the effectiveness of

the Free Karen Read PR campaign.

-[protesters booing] -[man] Give it up!

The reason that the community is so, it's so incendiary there,

is because they've been dealing with it for generations,

of what they consider to be sort of this, this --

this old-boys network of cops who just get away with it.

Everybody knows everybody, everybody's connected to everybody,

and that leads to problems.

That leads to corruption.

[Joseph] Massachusetts is not unique, and certainly there's been

a long and tortured history involving and including

police corruption,

lack of accountability for police officers,

police officers that have been caught planting evidence,

police officers that have been caught lying.

And I think a lot of people are saying, "That stops now."

-[protesters cheering] -[woman] Love you, Karen.

[Priscilla] We are just now weeks away from the high-profile murder trial

against Karen Read.

There will be a 200-foot buffer zone

around the courthouse in Dedham.

No one is allowed to wear clothing or have signs

in the courthouse that support one side or the other.

Starting next week, apparently, we can't have any gear

that says "Karen Read."

We basically are gonna have to put duct tape

over our mouth.

[Joseph] Judge Cannone doesn't want

any outside influences or distractions.

She's got to make sure the case is tried

within the four walls of that courtroom.

I can tell you from my experience with this community,

they are not gonna be muzzled.

[horn beeping]

[Paul] We were trying to figure out how we can get around that

buffer zone, and everyone said we should wear a certain color.

Karen Read said, "I love pink," or something of that sort,

and it snowballed from there.

Pink, because it's Karen's favorite color.

-[horn beeping] -[protesters cheering]

We love her.

Free Karen Read. Let freedom ring, woo!

[Karen] I wanted it to be something feminine that they wouldn't

confuse it with justice for John either, and think we're

pro-prosecution.

-[woman] Looking dapper, buddy. -I appreciate that.

Thank you. You guys look great in the pink.

I love it.

And I do like the color pink.

I don't wear it ever, but I like it.

So I just said, "Pink."

[protesters cheering via phone]

-[Alan] Is that live? -[Karen] Yeah.

Oh, actually,

I love the pink.

Love the pink.

[protesters cheering]

[reporter] Supporters of Karen Read were cheering

as she and her defense team arrived for day one

of the trial -- jury selection.

[Elizabeth] Honestly, we had no idea, going into this,

how many jurors we were gonna be able to find that could be fair and neutral.

Everyone's read the media about this.

There's a lot of people who know what's going on.

[reporter] Out of the 88 people in this first pool,

69 indicated they did know about it,

including 24 who said they've already formed an opinion

about Read's guilt or innocence.

[Karen] It's just bizarre.

I'm facing life in prison,

and now these strangers are gonna decide

how I live the rest of my life.

Arguably, I've said this many times, jury selection,

that's your trial.

[David] You will question the shoddy

and biased investigation that was done,

a faulty investigation that's led to Karen Read sitting here today.

We're working on our opening statement,

and we're all on edge right now.

Like, this is showtime.

And you will reasonably doubt their case because Karen Read

was framed and the evidence tends to show that.

[Alan] Immediately off the top of my head,

I don't ever want you or me or Liza or anybody else

to say "tends to prove" that she didn't do it. -[David] Yeah.

We're gonna [bleep] -- We're not trying this case

to a hanging jury.

We're trying this case to an acquittal.

-I did, I -- -Good.

I watched TV and like chilled out,

and then I got up at four and...

-[Alan] Got up at four? -And was like, ah!

[laughing]

-[Alan] Jesus Christ. -Big day.

[Alan] There's no way that we could be more prepared.

[Karen] I'm emotionally prepared.

I'm not emotionally looking forward to it,

and I know I'm gonna have emotions

that I'm not completely expecting.

-[woman] We love you, Karen! -[man] Go get โ€˜em Karen!

[Karen] But I've steeled myself for it,

and these last two and a half years

have prepared me for it.

-[horn beeping] -[protesters cheering]

Free Karen Read! Free Karen Read!

[Karen] They say it's become a circus.

It's -- it's not about justice for John, it's all about the Karen Read case.

[protesters] Free Karen Read!

I mean, it's my life and my trial.

Lock her up!

But the Karen Read case is trying to get justice for John.

The case is about how he died.

I think a lot of people are gonna be, like,

shocked when they see the truth.

[bailiff] 22-117, the Commonwealth versus Karen Read.

[Adam] Good morning.

John O'Keefe grew up in Braintree.

He was 46 years old when he passed.

He was the son of

John O'Keefe Jr., and Margaret, or Peggy, O'Keefe.

Adam Lally has a reputation for being methodical

and hard-evidence focused, and not flashy at all.

And they had two children who were very young.

[Kristina] It is not a prosecutor's job to be flashy or interesting.

[Adam] They eventually cajoled another friend of theirs, Mr. Curt Roberts,

to come out to the bar and join them as well.

And there's some other people that are located within the bar,

including a Mr. James Sullivan, who we hear from, who was...

[Karen] I thought Adam Lally's opening statement was rambling.

"You'll hear from this person," and like incidental witnesses,

people who had a beer with us the night before and then left.

[Adam] You'll hear testimony from

Ms. Roberts, Ms. McCabe, firefighters,

and the responding Canton police officers.

I'm not an attorney, but you just threw literally

27 names.

Eventually, the defendant, while driving around, this will

come in as far as other testimony

and related testimony as well.

Thank you very much for your time.

[Judge Cannone] All right. Thank you, Mr. Lally.

Mr. Yannetti?

[David] Thank you, Your Honor. May it please the court,

Karen Read was framed.

Yeah!

[David] The car never struck John O'Keefe.

She did not cause his death,

and that means that somebody else did.

You will learn that at that address lived a well-known

and well-connected law enforcement family in Canton.

You will learn in short that the police did no

real investigation of this case, and you will question why.

-You tell โ€˜em, Yannetti! -[protesters cheering]

[Karen] I'd heard David's opening, he's rehearsed it,

but when you hear it in the courtroom,

and the cameras are rolling,

and my family's there, my friends are there,

and the jurors are there,

it feels like you're hearing it for the first time.

It really felt like I'd never heard it, and I'd just heard it

the night before.

We will stand before you again at the end of this trial

and ask that you find Karen Read not guilty.

-Good job, guys. -[protesters cheering]

Excellent job, David. You crushed the opening.

-David. -[Karen] David.

-[Alan] What an amateur. -[all laughing]

[Karen] David, I will iron your shirt every day.

[Alan] That was [bleep] phenomenal. I love it, I love it.

You really, really did an amazing job.

And the contrast between the Commonwealth

standing up and just rattling off 50 names... -[Karen] Rambling.

...that don't -- they've got no context for.

It was just name after name after name.

I know this case, and I couldn't keep up with the frickin' names.

[Karen] I was dreading opening statements.

I've been advised they will...

they will call you everything but -- but -- but human,

um, and, uh, it was -- it was a good day.

It was -- it was a really good day.

[Alan] Well, I got to say, if that's the opening salvo

by the prosecution... -Yeah.

[Alan] Womp, womp.

Like, wow.

[Judge Cannone] Your next witness, please, Mr. Lally.

[Adam] Yes, Your Honor. The Commonwealth calls

Jennifer McCabe to the stand.

Here was a woman who was involved

in John O'Keefe's last night out.

Someone who was out drinking

with Karen Read and John O'Keefe.

And then the person who had invited them back

to 34 Fairview Road for an after party.

[bailiff] Do you solemnly swear for the court and the jury [indistinct],

the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

-[Jennifer M.] I do. -[bailiff] Thank you, you may take the stand.

[Alan] I think it's pretty clear that Jen McCabe is gonna be

a central witness for us.

She was one of the women that was in the house that night,

and she's the woman that Google searched

"how long to die in the cold."

I think a major turning point in the Karen Read trial is when

Jennifer McCabe took the stand.

That's when we went to, you know,

"Wow, these are the heavy hitters."

[Karen] Jen McCabe was at the crime scene,

and something happened.

John was -- John was murdered.

So, Jen McCabe, it's me or her.

Either I'm going down, Jen, or you are.

[Adam] How would you describe your relationship with John O'Keefe?

He was my friend. I loved John.

He was an amazing guy.

[Elizabeth] Karen and John initially started their night on the 28th

at C.F. McCarthy's.

They got drinks with friends.

Everyone was in good spirits, by all accounts.

They eventually decide to meet up with some additional people

at the Waterfall Bar and Grill.

At the Waterfall that night are all of the McCabes and Alberts.

You have Brian Albert, a Boston police officer,

Nicole Albert, Julie Albert, Chris Albert, Jennifer McCabe,

Matt McCabe, and Brian Higgins, a federal ATF agent.

They're all drinking together at this watering hole.

[Adam] With respect to Miss Read,

did you speak to her at the bar? -Yes.

[Adam] Do you recall what, if anything, the two of you spoke about?

[Jennifer M.] Karen had shared a little bit of frustration that morning,

and then we just talked about how, you know,

challenging it is with kids.

You know, she mentioned that that's kind of all they ever fight about.

And I said, "Yeah, well, welcome to parenthood."

But again,

it was just, you know, girlfriend to girlfriend

kind of venting.

Karen and John enter the bar.

There's not a single person there who says that they were

in anything but a good mood.

You can see their interactions that evening.

They're hugging each other. They're getting along.

[Adam] Now, you left the Waterfall sometime around midnight.

-Is that correct? -Yes.

[Elizabeth] Jennifer McCabe invited John and Karen

to come back to her brother-in-law Brian Albert's house

for some additional drinks.

So after the Waterfall,

Karen and John drive to go to the Albert residence.

They've never been there before.

The Alberts are people that they know, sort of in passing,

but they've never socialized at their home before.

When Karen and John show up at the Albert residence,

Jennifer McCabe is already in the house, and she looked out

the front door and initially observed Karen's vehicle

parked in the street, in the roadway,

in front of the Albert residence.

[Adam] So when you went over to the storm door and looked out,

what, if anything, did you see?

I saw a dark SUV.

So at that point, I text him, "Here?!"

"Pull behind me" at 12:31.

[Adam] And at any point in time, did John and O'Keefe respond to your text message?

[Jennifer M.] No.

And then a few minutes later, at 12:40, when I say "Hello,"

I cannot be certain whether they were still out front

or if they had left.

[Adam] And what was your thought as far as where John was or where

John had gone at that point?

At that point, I thought maybe,

uh, they decided not to come in.

Maybe they got into an argument.

[Adam] Did you think much of it at that point?

No.

[Adam] At some point, you left the residence at Fairview.

You went home around what time?

Roughly 1:30, 1:45.

[Karen] After I -- I left 34 Fairview,

I was angry at John.

So I'm calling while I'm driving,

and he didn't answer.

When I got to John's, I kept calling him.

You know, I'm -- I'm drinking, I'm swearing.

It's -- it's horrible.

I became convinced he's sleeping with someone.

And there were multiple women in the neighborhood of Fairview

that John had been with.

[Adam] And from your analysis of that phone, we were able to

determine approximately how many calls occurred

from the defendant's phone to Mr. O'Keefe's phone

from the time period shortly after 12:30 a.m.

to the time period shortly after 6:00 a.m.?

There was over 50. I think it was 53 or 55.

[Karen] Eventually, I fell asleep on the couch at John's house

from about 1:30 a.m. to 4:30.

And I woke up, and the reason I slept on the couch was

to know when he came in.

And I knew when I woke up on the couch, he hadn't come in.

I called him again, and he didn't answer.

My voice is shaking.

I started calling all his friends,

and nobody had heard from him, nobody had seen him.

And then I called Jen McCabe at 4:53.

And I said, "I'm looking -- looking for John."

She proceeds to scream my name multiple times.

And she tells me that John didn't come home,

they got into a fight, and that she left him at the Waterfall.

And I say, "Karen, we saw you outside of my sister's."

[Adam] And what was her response?

She told me that she didn't remember going there.

And then she started yelling, um,

"Jen, Jen."

And then she was saying, "Did I hit him?

Could I have hit him?"

[Adam] And this is while you're still in your home and you're in

your bed, correct? -[Jennifer M.] Correct.

And then she proceeded to say that she had

a cracked taillight.

For some reason, that morning,

it's going through Karen Read's head at this point

that something bad has happened to John O'Keefe.

The prosecution would be arguing, like,

"Why would she know something's wrong with John O'Keefe,

if she's innocent?"

[Brendan] Karen made dozens of calls that morning, not one to 911.

If one of those calls went to 911,

Johnny might still be alive.

It's upsetting to think that's true.

So Jen says, "You're hysterical,

come pick me up, and I'll go look for John with you."

And I'm simultaneously calling Kerry Roberts.

Kerry wasn't at the bar or at Fairview, but she was a friend

of John's and had known John for a long time

and communicated with him all the time.

[Kerry] Karen called me at five o'clock in the morning.

I answered the phone and she said, "John's dead.

Kerry, Kerry, Kerry."

And then she hung up.

I -- I may have said to Kerry, "I'm worried he's dead,"

or something, but I didn't say unequivocally

in a declarative statement, "Kerry, John's dead."

And if I had killed him, why would I be saying that?

It doesn't make any sense.

[Kerry] Finally, she called me back again.

And she said, "I'm afraid John might be dead.

"He might have gotten hit by a plow.

"He did not come home last night.

I think something happened."

And I said, "Kerry, I'm pulling into Jen McCabe's.

Just come over here. Let's all hop in one car."

Kerry was telling her to shut up,

that we needed to just go back to John's

and we'll drive in one car, and let's go to John's.

Maybe he's there, and he's passed out,

and you didn't see him.

So we go back to John's.

Now, this is an hour after I first called Jen McCabe.

I called her at 4:53. It's 5:45.

And we're back where I just spent the night.

[Kerry] Karen did point it out at one point in the driveway.

She said, "My taillight, look at my taillight."

And I looked at it, and I said, "You told me you don't remember

anything from last night."

She said, "Do you think I hit him? Do you think I hit him?"

I said, "No, I don't think you hit him."

I think you probably hit something.

But let's just go in the house and look for him.

And we go all through the house, and I'm just

running around -- we're all running around the house.

And eventually, I said, "Jen, we have to go back to 34 Fairview."

He's not any of these places.

After that, the three of us got in the car,

and we drove to Fairview.

Karen is in between us,

like from the back, kind of pushing up in between

Kerry and myself.

And she's just screaming,

"Kerry! Kerry!"

Her name over and over, my name over and over,

and repeating certain phrases. "Could I have hit him?

Did I hit him?"

Kerry is yelling at her to shut up, to sit back,

to buckle up, to look for John.

And as soon as we -- we approached the property,

he's right [bleep] there.

He's -- he's right on the edge of the property, and I said,

"There he is."

And both women said, "Where?"

I said, "He's right there. Stop the car."

[Adam] At the time that she's saying this,

were you able to see anything outside of the vehicle?

I saw nothing.

So I looked over, and I didn't see anything.

And I looked at Jen, and I said, "She's crazy."

And I unlocked the door, and I sat back and watched.

And she ran over to a mound of snow.

They pull up to 34 Fairview, and Jen McCabe says that Karen

just darted out of the car, like before it even stopped.

It was like, "Oh, there's John." You know?

Somehow, in this dark, we're still in the dark,

in -- in a blizzard,

Karen is able to spot John's body and run to him.

Karen beelined from the car

to jump onto what Kerry described as a hump in the snow,

by the time they got over there.

But from the car, Kerry testified,

you could not see anything eight feet off the street.

So that was the moment for me, the first question I had was,

"How did Karen know where the body was?"

I ran over to him, and John is perfectly still.

His mouth is open a little bit.

He's got cuts and blood on his face.

And he's just wearing the thin clothes he had on

the night before.

And he had a piece of glass

like perched on his nose, like just wedged like

a splinter would be.

And I just -- just

pulled it, and as soon as I pulled it,

it just gushed blood down his face.

And he had, um,

his eyes were purple, but this eye was split,

and it was dripping blood from a cut down his face.

And I did try to do mouth-to-mouth resuscitation.

I don't even know if I was doing it right, but

when I pinched his nose and breathed into his mouth,

I could hear gurgling.

And my first thought was, "He left drunk,

he fell, and he's asphyxiating on his vomit."

I said, "Kerry, roll him over, roll him over.'"

And she said, "No, don't roll him over. He could've -- he --"

What she was implying was he could have like

a broken neck or something.

So we're screaming at each other,

and then she says, "Shut the [bleep] up, Karen. Shut the [bleep] up.

Leave him the way he is."

And it continued where I felt like,

what is wrong with everyone?

Why are you screaming at me like this?

And where's Jen?

Karen's screaming, "Is he dead? Is he dead?"

And I was trying to be calm and get help there

for John as fast as possible.

[phone line ringing]

So the first responders arrived.

And I'm screaming and crying. I said, "It's my boyfriend.

"I left him, and he never came home.

Is -- is he dead?"

He's [bleep] dead, he's [bleep] freezing.

[Officer Lank] We have a Boston police officer that was just found in the snow

here, and does have some trauma to his head.

Not sure if he's been in a fight or whatever.

[Karen] I mean, I was like a chicken. You can see me on the video.

Like, I was yelling anything and everything, and I was

really confused.

And a few minutes after that, the EMTs come, and they put him

on a stretcher, and they get him in the ambulance.

[Adam] As he's being taken off the ground, what, if anything,

did you observe in that area?

[Kerry] His phone was under him, and it was grass.

[Adam] So everything else is covered in snow,

and when he's lifted off the ground, underneath his body,

is that where the grass is? -Yes.

[Jennifer M.] More officers began to arrive.

Miss Read just continued to run around screaming.

One EMT had asked,

you know, his name, his age, things like that,

um, if she knew what happened.

Ms. Read stated that she hit him.

-[Adam] That's something that she said once or more than once? -Three times.

"I hit him, I hit him, I hit him."

[Flint] In the first week of trial, one of the central ideas about

Karen Read's guilt or innocence

came up in multiple testimonies.

These first responders, the people who were there,

several of them testified that Karen Read said things

to the effect of, "I hit him, I hit him, I hit him."

Like that she was taking some kind of responsibility.

As I was ventilating, I was able to ask,

"Did anybody see anything? Did anybody -- what happened?"

And there was one individual that replied several times,

"I hit him, I hit him."

"I hit him, I hit him.

Oh, my god, I hit him."

She said, "I hit him."

She repeated it, and there was a police officer who was

in that vicinity, kind of with us, who replied,

"You what?" She repeated it one more time.

Earlier, it was, "Could I, did I?"

When she spoke to the paramedic,

it was crystal clear, "I hit him."

[Karen] I remember everything. I said, "Could I have hit him?

Did I hit him?"

And I'm not as clear as I would be if I hadn't been drinking.

I mean, I had drank so, and that led me to question like,

"Could -- could I have hit him? Did I run over his foot

or hit him in the knee? Did I incapacitate him?"

[Flint] Without a doubt, alcohol consumption

played some role in the events of January 29th, 2022.

Adam Lally provided a count of each drink that Karen Read

had that night.

[Adam] 8:58 p.m. is when the defendant receives drink number one.

9:57 p.m., drink number five. 10.29 p.m., drink number seven.

10.54 p.m., defendant and Mr. O'Keefe arrive at the Waterfall,

during the course of which, on an hour that they're there,

the defendant receives drinks number eight

and drinks number nine.

So the first two drinks I had at McCarthy's

was a vodka soda with a shot.

So that was, I mean, they were doubles,

which technically are two drinks.

So those two, the drink and then a shot,

they're counting as four.

Three drinks are ordered for me at C.F. McCarthy's,

that I don't drink.

So someone buys me a double, and I'm holding it,

but I'm just talking the whole time, I never drink it.

And then they buy a round of shots,

and I pour that into the drink.

So that one drink has three.

So I had, um,

five and a shot over three hours.

So that's six.

[Kristina] Everyone out that night was drinking extensively,

including John O'Keefe.

And to have this trial where all of these people who were

there that night are testifying to things that

they specifically remember, given the amount of alcohol

that it seems they had been drinking,

it's just hard to believe that memories were that clear.

[Alan] Can we pivot to the, "I hit him, I hit him, I hit him?"

I wanna know exactly where she says she was

when she heard that. Because I think that's --

Two or three minutes before this.

[Alan] Yeah.

[Alan] One of the big themes, um,

throughout our examination of every one of the officers

on scene, and the firefighters is this supposed statement,

"I hit him,"

that they're now turning into some sort of an admission

that -- that she did this.

So this has to be the point at which, and Jen's on her left,

you're on her right, right there.

So if we stop here,

directly across from her is a CPD officer, right?

She didn't know his name, name happens to be Saraf.

At any point when you were at that location,

did you hear my client repeating the phrase,

"I hit him, I hit him, I hit him, I hit him"?

She said, um...

"I hit him"? No, I didn't hear that part.

I think the prosecution believes that Karen telling one

or multiple people, "I hit him, I hit him, I hit him,"

is a big piece of evidence in their case.

But at the same time, you saw how closely

the defense team picked apart

every person who claimed to have heard Karen say,

"I hit him."

[Alan] Did you see any place in that video where

you engaged my client and said, "How'd you get here?

What happened?"

She said, "I hit him."

And you said, "How'd you hit him?"

All the stuff that you testified earlier to.

I didn't see that in the video, no.

[Alan] So it's fair to say that your memory is a little bit faulty

as it pertains to that time frame.

-Absolutely. -[Alan] OK.

Can you point to that portion of your report where

you indicate that my client said the words, "I hit him"?

It doesn't say that.

Given what we know,

not a single individual wrote that statement down.

That statement doesn't appear on any of the tapes.

What does appear is, "Is he dead? Is he dead?"

Another statement that appears is, "My boyfriend!

I left him and he never came home."

[Alan] You can hear that.

Nowhere, do you hear "I hit him" or any iteration thereof.

If she actually said that, and someone heard that

statement at the scene, she would never go anywhere.

She would have been arrested on the spot.

It's kind of to the point that I even wondered,

"Did I even say the word 'hit' at all?"

I've -- I've just been told it from the beginning,

and I know it -- I thought it, like, could I be responsible?

Because I don't know what the hell happened.

So, yeah, if anything, I said, "Could I have?"

Because I have -- I did question that in the early innings.

-[Alan] Of course. -But now, I'm like, "Jesus, did I ever even say 'hit'?"

[Karen] At the scene, I called my mom, my dad, my brother,

and my best friend.

And no one was answering, so I texted.

I texted, "John is dead." And my dad called me back.

And I said, "Dad, I don't want to live.

I just want to die right now."

[William] She was in an emotional state and shock is the only way

I would describe it, and I just sense,

you know, that she was at risk of hurting herself.

[Karen] Now that we have the dash cam videos, I can -- I can hear

one of the Canton police officers say,

"Let's -- let's section her."

Section 12 is a psychiatric hold that you think the person could

harm themselves.

I'm admitted to the hospital, and I'm in the ER,

an extension of the ER, but John's body is just about

two doors away from me.

A couple hours later, my father comes to get me

out of the hospital.

I was met by one of the attendants, one of

the medical attendants, and said, my daughter was,

you know, continuing to ask, "Is John O'Keefe, is he OK?

Is he dead, what -- what -- you know, what's the status?"

And that medical attendant said, "We haven't told her.

"Would you like us to tell her? Would you like to tell her?

Or would you like us all to go in and tell her?"

I said, "No, I'm her father, I'll do it."

She was on the edge of the bed, and when I told her,

I held her, and she slithered off the bed into my arms to the floor.

[Karen] He just said, "He's gone, he's gone."

[Nathan] She lost it for a little bit, and then within a pretty short

period of time, she said, "Dad, what are we gonna do?

What's the plan?"

She doesn't get lost in the -- in the loss.

She finds a way out of it.

[Karen] By the time I finally get out of the hospital, right before

noon, I said, "Dad, I want to go see the kids."

And we left and drove to John's.

And John's parents, his brother,

his father, and his niece were there, and then his nephew got

dropped off from a friend's house.

And I hugged his dad and his niece.

I greeted his brother and his mother.

And I knew they had identified the body.

I watched them go in there.

And I said to his brother, Paul,

I said, "Paul, what did he look like?

What happened?"

And he said, "My brother looked like he went

five rounds with Tyson."

And his mother leans over the kitchen island and says to me,

"I think he looks like he got hit by a car.

He looks like he got hit by a car."

I'm like, "Wait a minute, were you both looking at the same body?"

After a couple of minutes, Paul,

his cellphone rang, and he left the room.

The way he looked at Karen when he came back in that room,

it was like time stopped.

Oxygen left the room at that point.

And there was some serious looks of guilt thrown at Karen

and subsequently at my father and I.

I could read the room, and I was not wanted there.

And I looked at my dad, I said, "I gotta get out of here."

Like, they think I did this.

[Brendan] The folks that cared most and loved Johnny

are all following the evidence.

Her behavior, in conjunction with the hard evidence,

in conjunction with the circumstantial evidence

presented at trial, points in one direction.

And that is that Karen Read killed Johnny.

[Karen] They say that I'm a drunk, vengeful girlfriend,

scorned lover.

But I'm innocent.

I'm being set up,

and these witnesses,

they're all lying.

I just can't wait to get our shot at these guys.

It's gonna be the game-changer.

[protesters cheering]

[protesters chanting]

This is supposed to be justice for John O'Keefe

and it has completely become the Karen Read Show.

They're going to try to slut her up.

Just a slutty girl that's a drunk.

The defendant kissed me.

Texts were being read about an affair.

It felt like the walls were closing in.

Karen Read had a car that had a damaged tail light.

Pieces were found at 34 Fairview.

Astonished faces from the jurors. They were shocked.

All it would take is for one rogue to drop it and say

"Guys, we've got something over here."

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That's wht you wrote, correct?

Correct.

When you made that first pass did you see a body?

No.

If there was no body there at 2:30 in the morning,

the case is over.

The buzz is that today will be judgement day.

You may now deliberate your verdict.

Nothing points to anybody other than Karen.

I'm either going to be free again...

[crowd chanting] Free Karen Read!

or I'll be alone and in prison.

[protesters chanting] ...for John!

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