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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,390 --> 00:00:07,290 So today's lesson, we are going to be 2 00:00:07,290 --> 00:00:09,470 focusing on how to officially start your business. 3 00:00:09,610 --> 00:00:11,150 And this is great because this is bonus 4 00:00:11,150 --> 00:00:12,770 material for those who have purchased the course. 5 00:00:13,050 --> 00:00:14,650 So not only is it a more relaxed 6 00:00:14,650 --> 00:00:17,730 approach, it's definitely an approach for people who 7 00:00:17,730 --> 00:00:19,810 have drank the Kool-Aid at this point. 8 00:00:19,990 --> 00:00:21,510 So the questions that you ask are going 9 00:00:21,510 --> 00:00:22,390 to be fantastic. 10 00:00:22,530 --> 00:00:24,450 They're going to act as fodder for where 11 00:00:24,450 --> 00:00:26,090 we're moving in this direction. 12 00:00:26,530 --> 00:00:28,350 So over breakfast a few months ago, I 13 00:00:28,350 --> 00:00:31,509 asked JD, did I have a business plan? 14 00:00:32,030 --> 00:00:35,650 Because I couldn't really think, like, optimally, like, 15 00:00:35,770 --> 00:00:37,450 I have a tendency of looking back with 16 00:00:37,450 --> 00:00:39,490 rose-tinted glasses and being like, of course 17 00:00:39,490 --> 00:00:40,190 I did. 18 00:00:40,350 --> 00:00:42,490 But in my mind, I also probably could 19 00:00:42,490 --> 00:00:44,110 have attempted to run the Olympics and made 20 00:00:44,110 --> 00:00:45,810 it in my childhood because I look back 21 00:00:45,810 --> 00:00:47,570 and think, I was a really fast runner. 22 00:00:47,870 --> 00:00:49,310 No, that was not the case. 23 00:00:49,730 --> 00:00:52,950 But his certainty surprised me because he just 24 00:00:52,950 --> 00:00:55,330 simply said, yes, you did have a business 25 00:00:55,330 --> 00:00:55,530 plan. 26 00:00:56,070 --> 00:00:58,570 And his certainty surprised me because I still, 27 00:00:58,750 --> 00:01:00,110 even after he told me that I did, 28 00:01:00,170 --> 00:01:00,830 I felt unsure. 29 00:01:01,510 --> 00:01:03,569 A business plan, in my mind, was formal 30 00:01:03,569 --> 00:01:05,110 and legit, and I'm sure there was a 31 00:01:05,110 --> 00:01:06,090 certain way to do it. 32 00:01:06,530 --> 00:01:09,350 So one of the things I wanted to 33 00:01:09,350 --> 00:01:11,030 do, because I did not feel certain and 34 00:01:11,030 --> 00:01:12,570 I did not feel legit when I started, 35 00:01:13,070 --> 00:01:15,110 I wanted to just cross my references. 36 00:01:15,270 --> 00:01:17,430 So I did some research on Google and 37 00:01:17,430 --> 00:01:20,110 discovered that a business plan, as simply defined 38 00:01:20,110 --> 00:01:23,670 by Wikipedia, is a formal statement of business 39 00:01:23,670 --> 00:01:27,810 goals, two, a list of the reasons why 40 00:01:27,810 --> 00:01:31,470 they are attainable, and three, the plan for 41 00:01:31,470 --> 00:01:32,310 reaching those goals. 42 00:01:32,730 --> 00:01:35,170 So a business plan is a formal statement 43 00:01:35,170 --> 00:01:38,070 of goals, the reasons why you can do 44 00:01:38,070 --> 00:01:40,850 them, and the plan for reaching them. 45 00:01:41,730 --> 00:01:43,410 It was then, when I read this and 46 00:01:43,410 --> 00:01:45,470 I was at my laptop, I realized, hey, 47 00:01:45,550 --> 00:01:47,170 I truly did have a business plan. 48 00:01:47,550 --> 00:01:49,210 But it didn't come out in the way 49 00:01:49,210 --> 00:01:51,410 that you might think. 50 00:01:51,550 --> 00:01:53,130 I didn't sit down at this big oak 51 00:01:53,130 --> 00:01:55,150 mahogany desk with a little quill and tap 52 00:01:55,150 --> 00:01:57,090 my tongue and let me quill out all 53 00:01:57,090 --> 00:01:57,870 of my goals. 54 00:01:58,450 --> 00:02:00,430 I want to talk about how I created 55 00:02:00,430 --> 00:02:02,110 a plan for my first year of business, 56 00:02:02,570 --> 00:02:04,830 and here were a few things in that 57 00:02:04,830 --> 00:02:05,150 plan. 58 00:02:05,770 --> 00:02:07,190 So remember, we're going to talk about business 59 00:02:07,190 --> 00:02:09,229 goals, we're going to talk about the reasons 60 00:02:09,229 --> 00:02:11,210 why I think they're attainable, and the reasons 61 00:02:11,210 --> 00:02:13,530 why the plan for reaching those goals. 62 00:02:13,870 --> 00:02:15,950 So the first thing on my business plan, 63 00:02:16,010 --> 00:02:17,750 my first year business plan, was I wanted 64 00:02:17,750 --> 00:02:20,830 to second shoot or assist five to ten 65 00:02:20,830 --> 00:02:21,190 weddings. 66 00:02:21,790 --> 00:02:22,410 That was a goal. 67 00:02:22,570 --> 00:02:23,610 So I said, I want to second shoot 68 00:02:23,610 --> 00:02:24,210 five to ten weddings. 69 00:02:24,210 --> 00:02:27,570 Well, I ended up second shooting over 30, 70 00:02:27,950 --> 00:02:30,370 over 40 weddings, my first full year of 71 00:02:30,370 --> 00:02:30,730 business. 72 00:02:33,250 --> 00:02:36,390 I wanted to book one wedding that year. 73 00:02:36,810 --> 00:02:38,530 Well, it ended up being great because I 74 00:02:38,530 --> 00:02:41,490 ended up booking three, so I was trending 75 00:02:41,490 --> 00:02:41,970 pretty well. 76 00:02:42,610 --> 00:02:46,630 And I wanted to attend a photography workshop, 77 00:02:47,070 --> 00:02:49,930 and I ended up attending five. 78 00:02:50,490 --> 00:02:53,010 So my first year of business, to attend 79 00:02:53,010 --> 00:02:55,990 five photography workshops, one might wonder and question, 80 00:02:56,130 --> 00:02:58,250 well, how did you get the money to 81 00:02:58,250 --> 00:02:59,450 afford to go to those workshops? 82 00:02:59,870 --> 00:03:02,070 Well, because this is the pre-Creative Live 83 00:03:02,070 --> 00:03:03,210 days when they weren't free, you had to 84 00:03:03,210 --> 00:03:04,210 pay to actually go. 85 00:03:04,490 --> 00:03:05,770 Well, I paid to go to a few 86 00:03:05,770 --> 00:03:07,230 that I could afford, but then there were 87 00:03:07,230 --> 00:03:09,750 other photography workshops where photographers came into town 88 00:03:09,750 --> 00:03:11,590 and they were traveling, and so I emailed 89 00:03:11,590 --> 00:03:13,370 them in advance and I said, hey, I'm 90 00:03:13,370 --> 00:03:15,130 really connected in Los Angeles or in Orange 91 00:03:15,130 --> 00:03:15,490 County. 92 00:03:15,730 --> 00:03:17,110 If this is where you're having your workshop, 93 00:03:17,290 --> 00:03:18,230 how can I help you? 94 00:03:18,230 --> 00:03:20,030 How can I offer my service to you 95 00:03:20,030 --> 00:03:20,570 for free? 96 00:03:20,870 --> 00:03:22,490 And of course they took a free worker, 97 00:03:22,690 --> 00:03:24,210 and while I was setting up paper cups 98 00:03:24,210 --> 00:03:26,310 and running and grabbing Subway for lunch, I 99 00:03:26,310 --> 00:03:27,630 was still getting the workshop for free. 100 00:03:27,930 --> 00:03:28,890 Let's be real, right? 101 00:03:29,070 --> 00:03:30,230 So I'm all about the hustle. 102 00:03:30,730 --> 00:03:33,150 So let's talk about attainability. 103 00:03:33,550 --> 00:03:35,910 Why did I think that my goals, second 104 00:03:35,910 --> 00:03:38,530 shooting five to 10 weddings, booking one wedding, 105 00:03:38,950 --> 00:03:42,230 as well as going to workshops, why did 106 00:03:42,230 --> 00:03:43,110 I think they were attainable? 107 00:03:43,410 --> 00:03:44,310 Well, first things first. 108 00:03:44,310 --> 00:03:47,170 I second shot my very first wedding in 109 00:03:47,170 --> 00:03:48,670 April of 2006. 110 00:03:49,190 --> 00:03:51,230 I was an active participant in an online 111 00:03:51,230 --> 00:03:53,530 photography group, and there was a photographer who 112 00:03:53,530 --> 00:03:55,690 said, I'm shooting a wedding on my own 113 00:03:55,690 --> 00:03:56,530 for the first time. 114 00:03:56,770 --> 00:03:58,490 The client did not pay for a second 115 00:03:58,490 --> 00:04:00,710 shooter, but I'm a little bit uncomfortable doing 116 00:04:00,710 --> 00:04:01,250 it on my own. 117 00:04:01,450 --> 00:04:03,890 Would anybody be interested in joining me for 118 00:04:03,890 --> 00:04:04,270 free? 119 00:04:04,630 --> 00:04:05,830 Now, if you come for free, you get 120 00:04:05,830 --> 00:04:07,650 to use the images in your portfolio. 121 00:04:08,190 --> 00:04:10,270 Now, if somebody puts an opportunity out online, 122 00:04:10,710 --> 00:04:12,670 so many, hundreds of people threw their names 123 00:04:12,670 --> 00:04:13,270 in the hat. 124 00:04:13,270 --> 00:04:15,110 They were like, I want this, I want 125 00:04:15,110 --> 00:04:16,010 to do that, and I want to do 126 00:04:16,010 --> 00:04:16,329 this. 127 00:04:16,649 --> 00:04:18,130 Well, I took a risk. 128 00:04:18,410 --> 00:04:19,250 I made myself vulnerable. 129 00:04:19,390 --> 00:04:20,870 I said, I would love to second shoot 130 00:04:20,870 --> 00:04:21,670 with you. 131 00:04:21,930 --> 00:04:24,230 And would you believe that of all the 132 00:04:24,230 --> 00:04:25,710 names that all the people that had put 133 00:04:25,710 --> 00:04:27,330 out there, my name was chosen? 134 00:04:27,570 --> 00:04:29,330 And then we had a conversation after at 135 00:04:29,330 --> 00:04:29,630 the wedding. 136 00:04:29,710 --> 00:04:30,450 We had like a break. 137 00:04:30,750 --> 00:04:33,290 And I said, hey, Sean, how did you 138 00:04:33,290 --> 00:04:34,150 choose who was going to be your second 139 00:04:34,150 --> 00:04:34,330 shooter? 140 00:04:34,370 --> 00:04:36,090 Because one day, if I'm in the position 141 00:04:36,090 --> 00:04:38,490 to choose a second shooter, what would you 142 00:04:38,490 --> 00:04:39,230 suggest I do? 143 00:04:39,230 --> 00:04:42,430 And he said, well, of all the people 144 00:04:42,430 --> 00:04:44,850 who put their names in, I didn't recognize 145 00:04:44,850 --> 00:04:45,450 a lot of them. 146 00:04:45,890 --> 00:04:47,330 So these people were going and they were 147 00:04:47,330 --> 00:04:48,730 being a part of the group, but they 148 00:04:48,730 --> 00:04:50,430 weren't participating in the group. 149 00:04:50,710 --> 00:04:52,930 So they were essentially strangers to me. 150 00:04:53,230 --> 00:04:54,350 Why would I invite a stranger? 151 00:04:54,890 --> 00:04:56,670 And though we hadn't met in person, you 152 00:04:56,670 --> 00:04:59,310 were always offering something nice or helpful to 153 00:04:59,310 --> 00:04:59,610 somebody. 154 00:05:00,510 --> 00:05:02,150 And even though I was not technically sound, 155 00:05:02,250 --> 00:05:03,450 somebody could be like, can somebody talk to 156 00:05:03,450 --> 00:05:04,530 me about chromatic abrogation? 157 00:05:04,690 --> 00:05:05,650 And I would be like, what? 158 00:05:06,150 --> 00:05:07,390 I didn't know what the heck they were 159 00:05:07,390 --> 00:05:07,870 talking about. 160 00:05:07,870 --> 00:05:09,450 But when somebody said, this is how I'm 161 00:05:09,450 --> 00:05:11,170 feeling, I would just try to participate in 162 00:05:11,170 --> 00:05:13,170 the conversation in a way that I felt 163 00:05:13,170 --> 00:05:13,590 I could. 164 00:05:13,990 --> 00:05:15,290 And he said that that struck him as 165 00:05:15,290 --> 00:05:16,850 something as nice and that if I was 166 00:05:16,850 --> 00:05:18,690 nice on an online forum, well, then there's 167 00:05:18,690 --> 00:05:20,230 a probability of me being nice in person. 168 00:05:20,750 --> 00:05:23,190 I was like, hmm, I was chosen because 169 00:05:23,190 --> 00:05:24,690 I like to talk a lot online. 170 00:05:24,970 --> 00:05:25,290 Wow. 171 00:05:25,430 --> 00:05:25,670 OK. 172 00:05:26,730 --> 00:05:29,050 But he also said that for him, which 173 00:05:29,050 --> 00:05:31,630 is ancillary, which is awesome that he actually 174 00:05:31,630 --> 00:05:33,910 admitted it, but he had said that it 175 00:05:33,910 --> 00:05:35,730 was his first wedding and he did not 176 00:05:35,730 --> 00:05:37,530 want to work with somebody who was so 177 00:05:37,530 --> 00:05:40,050 far advanced that they would make him feel 178 00:05:40,050 --> 00:05:42,490 insecure or inferior as the lead photographer. 179 00:05:43,070 --> 00:05:46,210 And I was like, wow, that was pretty 180 00:05:46,210 --> 00:05:46,510 deep. 181 00:05:46,910 --> 00:05:48,870 So no matter where you are in your 182 00:05:48,870 --> 00:05:50,770 spectrum and whether or not you feel like 183 00:05:50,770 --> 00:05:52,030 you're in the shoes to actually go out 184 00:05:52,030 --> 00:05:53,570 and second shoot for somebody, you might be 185 00:05:53,570 --> 00:05:55,430 a really good fit for somebody who's looking 186 00:05:55,430 --> 00:05:56,910 for just the things you possess. 187 00:05:57,190 --> 00:05:58,910 So put yourself out in a personal capacity. 188 00:05:59,410 --> 00:06:06,210 Now, if, for instance, I lowered my second 189 00:06:06,210 --> 00:06:08,350 shooting fees, I could shoot more. 190 00:06:08,730 --> 00:06:10,150 So when I say lower, I started off 191 00:06:10,150 --> 00:06:10,710 doing it for free. 192 00:06:10,890 --> 00:06:12,470 You can't get any cheaper than that. 193 00:06:12,730 --> 00:06:14,450 But I did know that I would put 194 00:06:14,450 --> 00:06:16,130 the price that somebody would pay to hire 195 00:06:16,130 --> 00:06:17,270 me in their court. 196 00:06:17,630 --> 00:06:19,310 I did not say this is my hourly 197 00:06:19,310 --> 00:06:19,650 rate. 198 00:06:19,890 --> 00:06:21,170 I was just hungry. 199 00:06:21,890 --> 00:06:23,430 I wanted it bad. 200 00:06:23,430 --> 00:06:25,730 Now, if they were not going to allow 201 00:06:25,730 --> 00:06:27,610 me to use the images in my portfolio, 202 00:06:27,830 --> 00:06:31,130 however they allowed me to, you know, I 203 00:06:31,130 --> 00:06:32,290 had to wait six months or I couldn't 204 00:06:32,290 --> 00:06:33,670 blog them or I couldn't do this or 205 00:06:33,670 --> 00:06:33,890 couldn't do that. 206 00:06:33,930 --> 00:06:34,850 They would set those stipulations. 207 00:06:35,150 --> 00:06:36,370 But if I could still use them in 208 00:06:36,370 --> 00:06:38,870 some capacity, it didn't matter that I wasn't 209 00:06:38,870 --> 00:06:42,110 getting paid because that experience far superseded anything 210 00:06:42,110 --> 00:06:43,390 that I could be doing out on my 211 00:06:43,390 --> 00:06:43,670 own. 212 00:06:44,110 --> 00:06:45,970 Now as the business grew and as people 213 00:06:45,970 --> 00:06:48,770 became depending on me more, my rates went 214 00:06:48,770 --> 00:06:49,690 up naturally. 215 00:06:49,950 --> 00:06:51,070 I didn't have to ask for them. 216 00:06:51,170 --> 00:06:52,350 I didn't have to say, you know what? 217 00:06:52,350 --> 00:06:53,890 I'm $300 for the day. 218 00:06:54,150 --> 00:06:56,130 People were paying me to be there for 219 00:06:56,130 --> 00:06:57,070 $300 a day. 220 00:06:57,170 --> 00:06:58,090 Now this is Southern California. 221 00:06:58,270 --> 00:06:59,970 It might not be that rate in different 222 00:06:59,970 --> 00:07:00,730 parts of the area. 223 00:07:01,090 --> 00:07:03,070 I know second shooters who will get $500 224 00:07:03,070 --> 00:07:05,370 to $800 a day for second shooting a 225 00:07:05,370 --> 00:07:05,530 wedding. 226 00:07:05,730 --> 00:07:07,290 It depends where you are in the market 227 00:07:07,290 --> 00:07:07,750 that you're doing. 228 00:07:09,210 --> 00:07:12,030 So I believed that my, my goals were 229 00:07:12,030 --> 00:07:14,630 attainable because I believed that I could book 230 00:07:14,630 --> 00:07:17,650 one wedding based on the marketing that I 231 00:07:17,650 --> 00:07:21,050 was doing based on the networking and by 232 00:07:21,050 --> 00:07:23,270 networking I have explained in previous lessons. 233 00:07:23,390 --> 00:07:24,810 By the time you get to this lesson, 234 00:07:25,150 --> 00:07:26,670 you will know that I'm not very good 235 00:07:26,670 --> 00:07:29,030 at networking because I am socially awkward and 236 00:07:29,030 --> 00:07:29,830 I'm an introvert. 237 00:07:30,010 --> 00:07:31,670 So when I say networking, it was me 238 00:07:31,670 --> 00:07:34,850 just like peeling myself off the car chair, 239 00:07:35,210 --> 00:07:38,230 walking inside and finding the other single person 240 00:07:38,230 --> 00:07:39,530 by the fried food station. 241 00:07:40,250 --> 00:07:42,070 Well those people all hang together and we 242 00:07:42,070 --> 00:07:44,250 bonded over our commonality and love of food. 243 00:07:44,490 --> 00:07:46,450 We got to know each other and I 244 00:07:46,450 --> 00:07:49,090 think to myself, hey, we could potentially bounce 245 00:07:49,090 --> 00:07:50,470 referrals back and forth. 246 00:07:50,470 --> 00:07:52,570 So I believe that one wedding was in 247 00:07:52,570 --> 00:07:54,290 my future based on the marketing that I 248 00:07:54,290 --> 00:07:55,410 was doing, based on the networking that I 249 00:07:55,410 --> 00:07:57,170 was doing and let's just face it, based 250 00:07:57,170 --> 00:07:58,370 on all the praying that I was doing 251 00:07:58,370 --> 00:07:59,090 because I believe in miracles. 252 00:07:59,170 --> 00:08:00,230 My mom was healed from cancer. 253 00:08:00,790 --> 00:08:02,190 Surely God could give me a wedding. 254 00:08:02,450 --> 00:08:04,290 You might disagree, but that was my philosophy. 255 00:08:04,910 --> 00:08:08,270 Thirdly, I was, um, I believed that I 256 00:08:08,270 --> 00:08:10,550 can, the attainability of me going to a 257 00:08:10,550 --> 00:08:13,230 photography workshop was attainable because as I started 258 00:08:13,230 --> 00:08:16,230 second shooting other weddings, the $100, the 150 259 00:08:16,230 --> 00:08:18,510 was being put into a savings account, was 260 00:08:18,510 --> 00:08:20,110 being put into a savings account, was being 261 00:08:20,110 --> 00:08:21,830 put into a savings account so that when 262 00:08:21,830 --> 00:08:23,610 I actually had the money to invest in 263 00:08:23,610 --> 00:08:25,090 either a lens or going to a workshop, 264 00:08:25,430 --> 00:08:26,690 I was afforded that luxury. 265 00:08:27,050 --> 00:08:30,310 Anything that I need from shooting went directly 266 00:08:30,310 --> 00:08:31,190 into this bank account. 267 00:08:31,510 --> 00:08:33,330 Now you can read more about the details 268 00:08:33,330 --> 00:08:35,289 and how all the finite details worked out 269 00:08:35,289 --> 00:08:37,850 in Exposed Magazine, but this is just the 270 00:08:37,850 --> 00:08:39,870 loose outline of why I thought the goals 271 00:08:39,870 --> 00:08:40,429 were attainable. 272 00:08:41,610 --> 00:08:44,570 Now here is my plan for reaching those 273 00:08:44,570 --> 00:08:44,890 goals. 274 00:08:45,350 --> 00:08:47,790 First, I needed to participate more in the 275 00:08:47,790 --> 00:08:48,430 photo community. 276 00:08:48,430 --> 00:08:50,690 If I wanted to second shoot more, I 277 00:08:50,690 --> 00:08:52,170 needed to get my face out there more. 278 00:08:52,230 --> 00:08:53,750 And by face, I mean basically online. 279 00:08:53,950 --> 00:08:54,970 We live in a digital world. 280 00:08:55,210 --> 00:08:55,830 This is what we're doing. 281 00:08:56,070 --> 00:08:58,030 I worked part time so that on my 282 00:08:58,030 --> 00:08:59,550 lunch break and on my break and when 283 00:08:59,550 --> 00:09:01,130 things were really slow, I was just getting 284 00:09:01,130 --> 00:09:02,970 online, being like, what can I do? 285 00:09:03,070 --> 00:09:04,010 Who can I be talking with? 286 00:09:04,330 --> 00:09:05,530 Now, I want you to make friends. 287 00:09:05,830 --> 00:09:07,210 I want you to help others and I 288 00:09:07,210 --> 00:09:09,630 want you to create trust because just like 289 00:09:09,630 --> 00:09:11,890 Sean told me that first wedding, he simply 290 00:09:11,890 --> 00:09:13,890 trusted me based on the amount that I 291 00:09:13,890 --> 00:09:14,550 was participating. 292 00:09:14,950 --> 00:09:17,210 So if you go to photography groups and 293 00:09:17,210 --> 00:09:19,030 you're not saying anything, it means that you're 294 00:09:19,030 --> 00:09:20,630 just taking from the group and you're not 295 00:09:20,630 --> 00:09:21,570 replenishing the group. 296 00:09:22,590 --> 00:09:25,430 Secondly, another plan for me to book my 297 00:09:25,430 --> 00:09:27,890 weddings was that I planned to take any 298 00:09:27,890 --> 00:09:30,250 wedding if it came my way. 299 00:09:30,610 --> 00:09:32,570 So I did not let price get in 300 00:09:32,570 --> 00:09:32,870 the way. 301 00:09:33,030 --> 00:09:34,810 I did not let expectations get in the 302 00:09:34,810 --> 00:09:35,010 way. 303 00:09:35,390 --> 00:09:37,010 My goal when I set out was I 304 00:09:37,010 --> 00:09:38,630 want to get busy and I want to 305 00:09:38,630 --> 00:09:39,910 get busy fast. 306 00:09:40,270 --> 00:09:41,850 Now some people will say, oh, being away 307 00:09:41,850 --> 00:09:43,690 from my family or my children is valuable 308 00:09:43,690 --> 00:09:44,010 to me. 309 00:09:44,010 --> 00:09:45,530 I work a full-time job. 310 00:09:45,630 --> 00:09:46,090 I'm tired. 311 00:09:46,190 --> 00:09:47,670 So if I go out, then it really, 312 00:09:47,830 --> 00:09:49,130 I need to be around $3,000. 313 00:09:49,410 --> 00:09:50,790 If that is your goal, awesome. 314 00:09:50,890 --> 00:09:51,430 You rock your goal. 315 00:09:51,570 --> 00:09:52,970 For me, I was just like, I need 316 00:09:52,970 --> 00:09:53,230 a hustle. 317 00:09:53,530 --> 00:09:54,530 I want this to be my career. 318 00:09:54,730 --> 00:09:55,290 I'm hungry. 319 00:09:55,430 --> 00:09:56,150 I will do it for whatever. 320 00:09:56,270 --> 00:09:57,730 I will pay you to shoot your wedding. 321 00:09:58,210 --> 00:10:00,210 Not exactly, but you know, I was this 322 00:10:00,210 --> 00:10:00,690 close. 323 00:10:01,130 --> 00:10:02,790 Now, I worked part-time. 324 00:10:03,110 --> 00:10:04,410 So when it comes to actually my plan 325 00:10:04,410 --> 00:10:06,110 to actually get to workshops was that I 326 00:10:06,110 --> 00:10:06,690 worked part-time. 327 00:10:06,810 --> 00:10:09,970 I worked Monday, Wednesday, Friday and I was 328 00:10:09,970 --> 00:10:10,590 picking up shoots. 329 00:10:10,650 --> 00:10:11,970 I was picking up shoots and I would 330 00:10:11,970 --> 00:10:12,370 shoot anything. 331 00:10:12,370 --> 00:10:14,170 I would shoot portraits and I would shoot 332 00:10:14,170 --> 00:10:14,930 family shoots. 333 00:10:15,130 --> 00:10:17,370 I knew that portraits and family shoots were 334 00:10:17,370 --> 00:10:18,230 not my cup of tea. 335 00:10:18,510 --> 00:10:19,870 In fact, when I got to family shoots, 336 00:10:19,950 --> 00:10:22,570 I realized I'm really bad at these family 337 00:10:22,570 --> 00:10:22,910 shoots. 338 00:10:23,070 --> 00:10:25,630 So I necessarily should not be taking things 339 00:10:25,630 --> 00:10:26,610 that I wasn't so good at. 340 00:10:26,910 --> 00:10:28,810 So I took, if my memory serves me 341 00:10:28,810 --> 00:10:31,850 correctly, about 30, oh, excuse me, about three 342 00:10:31,850 --> 00:10:33,590 to four family sessions. 343 00:10:33,750 --> 00:10:35,390 Now what I did with that money, I 344 00:10:35,390 --> 00:10:36,790 applied it to my educational fund. 345 00:10:37,330 --> 00:10:38,210 I would get there and I'd be like, 346 00:10:38,270 --> 00:10:39,610 I don't want to do this family shoot, 347 00:10:39,750 --> 00:10:42,230 but I'm 50% closer to booking my 348 00:10:42,230 --> 00:10:43,890 retainer for a photography workshop. 349 00:10:44,210 --> 00:10:46,330 And when I thought in those contexts, I 350 00:10:46,330 --> 00:10:47,890 thought I can actually do this. 351 00:10:48,190 --> 00:10:49,710 Now these are just three examples of what 352 00:10:49,710 --> 00:10:50,950 my first year plan was. 353 00:10:51,130 --> 00:10:52,650 So this is my business plan, what my 354 00:10:52,650 --> 00:10:54,450 goals were, why they were attainable and my 355 00:10:54,450 --> 00:10:55,110 plans to get there. 356 00:10:55,390 --> 00:10:57,330 Now what I want to talk about is 357 00:10:57,330 --> 00:10:58,690 that I just didn't have hope. 358 00:10:59,690 --> 00:11:01,390 I just didn't have a loose plan. 359 00:11:01,790 --> 00:11:03,910 I had a goals, an action plan and 360 00:11:03,910 --> 00:11:05,190 a deadline to make these happen. 361 00:11:06,310 --> 00:11:08,290 So now that you know what was outlined 362 00:11:08,290 --> 00:11:09,930 for my business, I want to talk about 363 00:11:09,930 --> 00:11:11,790 the logistics and how we made it happen. 364 00:11:12,050 --> 00:11:14,390 Because so often, photographers start a business and 365 00:11:14,390 --> 00:11:16,910 they're like, weee, and without doing all the 366 00:11:16,910 --> 00:11:18,570 technical, formal stuff to go on behind. 367 00:11:18,770 --> 00:11:20,210 And so then you get so deep into 368 00:11:20,210 --> 00:11:20,610 your business. 369 00:11:20,730 --> 00:11:22,450 Here's a common thing that I see often, 370 00:11:22,710 --> 00:11:25,670 is that photographers will charge prices and for 371 00:11:25,670 --> 00:11:28,250 some reason they omit to charge tax. 372 00:11:28,990 --> 00:11:31,030 So a photographer who had just started his 373 00:11:31,030 --> 00:11:32,550 business, I was talking to him, I think 374 00:11:32,550 --> 00:11:34,630 they're a wonderful, amazing couple, this was a 375 00:11:34,630 --> 00:11:36,910 few years ago, and then they got slammed 376 00:11:36,910 --> 00:11:41,130 with a $27,000 tax, it wasn't tax 377 00:11:41,130 --> 00:11:42,610 evasion, they were just like, oh, we didn't 378 00:11:42,610 --> 00:11:44,110 know for the past couple years we actually 379 00:11:44,110 --> 00:11:45,530 had to pay taxes on this income. 380 00:11:46,010 --> 00:11:46,970 And they had to go into a payment 381 00:11:46,970 --> 00:11:49,650 plan and it was such a jarring shock 382 00:11:49,650 --> 00:11:50,010 for them. 383 00:11:50,270 --> 00:11:51,730 And I can't help but think, had we 384 00:11:51,730 --> 00:11:54,870 prepared ourselves to know what was going on, 385 00:11:54,950 --> 00:11:57,210 we could have avoided a very, very tough 386 00:11:57,210 --> 00:11:57,510 decision. 387 00:11:57,610 --> 00:11:58,430 It was a hard time. 388 00:11:58,750 --> 00:12:00,110 Nobody wants to get smacked with a bill 389 00:12:00,110 --> 00:12:00,410 like that. 390 00:12:00,550 --> 00:12:03,030 So here is how things went down for 391 00:12:03,030 --> 00:12:03,310 me. 392 00:12:03,310 --> 00:12:05,350 So you might be well-oiled machine, you're 393 00:12:05,350 --> 00:12:06,890 well on your way, but for those of 394 00:12:06,890 --> 00:12:08,370 us who are kind of like starting in 395 00:12:08,370 --> 00:12:10,390 the beginning or want to go back and 396 00:12:10,390 --> 00:12:11,870 make sure that all our T's are crossed 397 00:12:11,870 --> 00:12:13,170 and our I's are dotted, this is the 398 00:12:13,170 --> 00:12:13,670 brief outline. 399 00:12:14,430 --> 00:12:14,890 Oh, excuse me. 400 00:12:16,110 --> 00:12:19,250 In March of 2006, I went to the 401 00:12:19,250 --> 00:12:22,410 Los Angeles County Registrar's Recorder's Office and I 402 00:12:22,410 --> 00:12:25,050 filed for a DBA, Doing Business As. 403 00:12:25,430 --> 00:12:28,010 Now, I didn't know what kind of, I 404 00:12:28,010 --> 00:12:28,970 just simply went in, I was like, I 405 00:12:28,970 --> 00:12:30,210 need a DBA, and I wasn't sure if 406 00:12:30,210 --> 00:12:32,030 I should be a sole proprietor or an 407 00:12:32,030 --> 00:12:32,330 LLC. 408 00:12:32,330 --> 00:12:34,930 So I filed to be a partnership because 409 00:12:34,930 --> 00:12:36,270 I just assumed, oh, me and JD are 410 00:12:36,270 --> 00:12:37,150 partners, duh. 411 00:12:37,730 --> 00:12:39,610 I mean, this is how little I actually 412 00:12:39,610 --> 00:12:39,990 knew about it. 413 00:12:40,050 --> 00:12:42,150 So I filed for a sole proprietor partnership. 414 00:12:42,730 --> 00:12:44,510 And this could be risky because people can 415 00:12:44,510 --> 00:12:47,990 come after your personal assets in case there's 416 00:12:47,990 --> 00:12:49,350 a direct discrepancy in the way that the 417 00:12:49,350 --> 00:12:50,110 business is handled. 418 00:12:50,710 --> 00:12:53,290 Now, I have talked to my accountant since 419 00:12:53,290 --> 00:12:56,510 then, and I still remain a sole proprietor 420 00:12:56,510 --> 00:12:59,210 partnership, but I have taken out a much 421 00:12:59,210 --> 00:13:01,630 higher personal insurance policy. 422 00:13:01,970 --> 00:13:03,410 Because he said it didn't make sense for 423 00:13:03,410 --> 00:13:04,830 my business to go into the form of 424 00:13:04,830 --> 00:13:06,230 an LLC because it would cost more money 425 00:13:06,230 --> 00:13:07,610 to change, and it wasn't going to be 426 00:13:07,610 --> 00:13:09,190 any tax benefits. 427 00:13:09,630 --> 00:13:10,830 So in light of that, I've taken out 428 00:13:10,830 --> 00:13:13,090 a personal insurance policy that goes up to 429 00:13:13,090 --> 00:13:13,550 X amount. 430 00:13:13,570 --> 00:13:14,470 I don't want to tell you because people 431 00:13:14,470 --> 00:13:15,470 are like, I'm going to sue that girl. 432 00:13:16,370 --> 00:13:18,270 So that's kind of where we've decided, and 433 00:13:18,270 --> 00:13:19,770 I have approached it from both a legal 434 00:13:19,770 --> 00:13:21,530 and an accounting perspective, and it works for 435 00:13:21,530 --> 00:13:21,670 me. 436 00:13:23,150 --> 00:13:24,950 So after that, that same month in March 437 00:13:24,950 --> 00:13:27,210 of 2006, I filed for my DBA, and 438 00:13:27,210 --> 00:13:29,130 they made me require to put in that 439 00:13:29,130 --> 00:13:30,910 my business had started in a local newspaper. 440 00:13:31,470 --> 00:13:32,110 Totally random. 441 00:13:32,330 --> 00:13:33,290 I still don't know if that's a thing, 442 00:13:33,490 --> 00:13:34,490 but I had to do that. 443 00:13:34,910 --> 00:13:37,230 In April of 2006, I applied for my 444 00:13:37,230 --> 00:13:38,550 first business credit card. 445 00:13:38,830 --> 00:13:40,550 Now, at the time, I wasn't really making 446 00:13:40,550 --> 00:13:42,210 money, but I sure as heck was spending 447 00:13:42,210 --> 00:13:42,530 money. 448 00:13:42,830 --> 00:13:44,550 So I looked and checked out what business 449 00:13:44,550 --> 00:13:46,270 credit cards were going to be advantageous. 450 00:13:46,630 --> 00:13:48,290 JDA at the time were not traveling as 451 00:13:48,290 --> 00:13:50,030 much as we wanted to, but we dreamed. 452 00:13:50,270 --> 00:13:52,290 We dreamed of traveling, so in faith, we 453 00:13:52,290 --> 00:13:54,010 got out a credit card for every dollar 454 00:13:54,010 --> 00:13:55,550 it equals a point, and then the points 455 00:13:55,550 --> 00:13:57,230 can parlay into travel. 456 00:13:57,230 --> 00:13:58,450 And so that's what we had decided to 457 00:13:58,450 --> 00:13:58,650 do. 458 00:13:58,950 --> 00:14:01,250 Now, everything went on that business card that 459 00:14:01,250 --> 00:14:02,350 was business-related. 460 00:14:02,710 --> 00:14:05,770 So we were renting lenses first, and then 461 00:14:05,770 --> 00:14:07,690 when we could afford lenses, we were buying 462 00:14:07,690 --> 00:14:09,190 the lenses on the credit card. 463 00:14:09,230 --> 00:14:11,770 We were paying for websites and blogs and 464 00:14:11,770 --> 00:14:13,430 computers and tax services. 465 00:14:13,730 --> 00:14:15,170 We were paying to buy Photoshop. 466 00:14:15,330 --> 00:14:16,590 We were paying to buy, at the time, 467 00:14:16,630 --> 00:14:18,870 as Bridget has now transitioned to Lightroom. 468 00:14:19,030 --> 00:14:20,870 So all of those expenses had to go 469 00:14:20,870 --> 00:14:22,270 on that single card so that I could 470 00:14:22,270 --> 00:14:22,770 track them. 471 00:14:22,950 --> 00:14:24,430 I never wanted to use my personal card 472 00:14:24,430 --> 00:14:26,550 for business expenses or use my business card 473 00:14:26,550 --> 00:14:27,430 for personal expenses. 474 00:14:28,190 --> 00:14:32,010 Now, in May of 2006, I scored my 475 00:14:32,010 --> 00:14:33,110 first second shooting opportunity. 476 00:14:33,410 --> 00:14:34,650 You guys know how that went down. 477 00:14:35,450 --> 00:14:37,150 Now, I knew that even though I didn't 478 00:14:37,150 --> 00:14:38,730 get paid for that gig, there was a 479 00:14:38,730 --> 00:14:40,330 possibility for me to get paid for future 480 00:14:40,330 --> 00:14:41,650 gigs, so I needed to get my ducks 481 00:14:41,650 --> 00:14:41,910 in a row. 482 00:14:42,210 --> 00:14:44,670 I filed for a business checking and savings 483 00:14:44,670 --> 00:14:47,830 account that was separate from my personal checking 484 00:14:47,830 --> 00:14:48,910 and savings account. 485 00:14:49,370 --> 00:14:51,270 All the money that I made, all, like 486 00:14:51,270 --> 00:14:53,850 I was like Diamond Jim, all, like the 487 00:14:53,850 --> 00:14:55,370 couple hundred bucks I made my first year, 488 00:14:55,750 --> 00:14:58,590 went into that business checking account. 489 00:14:58,890 --> 00:15:01,390 I needed a clear, clear, clear, clear outline 490 00:15:01,390 --> 00:15:02,630 of what I was making and what I 491 00:15:02,630 --> 00:15:03,050 was spending. 492 00:15:03,990 --> 00:15:07,850 So in June through September of 2006, I 493 00:15:07,850 --> 00:15:10,350 second shot weddings for almost every weekend, and 494 00:15:10,350 --> 00:15:12,670 I was second shooting weddings multiple weekends. 495 00:15:13,010 --> 00:15:14,510 So like I said, I started off getting 496 00:15:14,510 --> 00:15:17,350 paid like nothing, and then $100 and $150, 497 00:15:17,670 --> 00:15:19,170 and slowly worked my way up to be 498 00:15:19,170 --> 00:15:21,410 in between $150 and $300 range. 499 00:15:21,410 --> 00:15:23,590 All of that money went into my business 500 00:15:23,590 --> 00:15:25,570 account, and I was also picking up small 501 00:15:25,570 --> 00:15:28,690 side gigs, family shoots, portrait sessions, that money 502 00:15:28,690 --> 00:15:29,890 went into those business accounts. 503 00:15:30,350 --> 00:15:33,270 In October of 2006, I shot my first 504 00:15:33,270 --> 00:15:35,230 wedding, and then I got my first official 505 00:15:35,230 --> 00:15:36,550 payment of $1,500. 506 00:15:37,290 --> 00:15:39,310 Now, she had originally told me that her 507 00:15:39,310 --> 00:15:41,450 budget was $1,000, and I said, great, 508 00:15:41,730 --> 00:15:43,330 well you can have everything you want, which 509 00:15:43,330 --> 00:15:46,010 was 10 hours of shooting, an engagement session, 510 00:15:46,450 --> 00:15:48,150 and she wanted the disc of digital negatives, 511 00:15:48,270 --> 00:15:49,250 but I said that that was going to 512 00:15:49,250 --> 00:15:50,470 be an additional $500. 513 00:15:51,170 --> 00:15:53,530 Well, after some deliberation, she agreed. 514 00:15:53,830 --> 00:15:55,490 So my very first wedding I booked, I 515 00:15:55,490 --> 00:15:58,090 booked for $1,500, and that money went 516 00:15:58,090 --> 00:15:59,530 into my bank account, and you might think, 517 00:15:59,810 --> 00:16:01,710 woohoo, that's great, except for the fact that 518 00:16:01,710 --> 00:16:03,190 I had to rent all of my gear. 519 00:16:03,610 --> 00:16:05,270 In addition to renting all of my gear, 520 00:16:05,510 --> 00:16:07,130 I had JD come along to shoot the 521 00:16:07,130 --> 00:16:08,770 wedding with me, and we rented all of 522 00:16:08,770 --> 00:16:09,290 his gear. 523 00:16:09,630 --> 00:16:11,350 So basically, we shot that first wedding for 524 00:16:11,350 --> 00:16:13,990 about 14 cents, and that's okay, it was 525 00:16:13,990 --> 00:16:16,170 my wedding, and boy did we leverage the 526 00:16:16,170 --> 00:16:17,470 heck out of that in regards to marketing, 527 00:16:17,590 --> 00:16:20,010 and we'll talk about that in another marketing 528 00:16:20,010 --> 00:16:20,430 lesson. 529 00:16:20,870 --> 00:16:23,690 Now, in December of 2006, when it came 530 00:16:23,690 --> 00:16:26,050 time for me to file taxes, I had 531 00:16:26,050 --> 00:16:27,690 booked that first wedding in 2006, I had 532 00:16:27,690 --> 00:16:29,310 booked two other weddings for a total of 533 00:16:29,310 --> 00:16:29,850 three weddings. 534 00:16:30,250 --> 00:16:32,990 So in 2006, I second shot somewhere around 535 00:16:32,990 --> 00:16:35,190 30 to 40 weddings, I picked up a 536 00:16:35,190 --> 00:16:37,750 couple family shoots, a couple portrait sessions, and 537 00:16:37,750 --> 00:16:38,690 I booked three weddings. 538 00:16:39,170 --> 00:16:40,910 Well, it was time for me to file 539 00:16:40,910 --> 00:16:42,670 taxes, and then what I did is I 540 00:16:42,670 --> 00:16:45,070 filed for an EIN number. 541 00:16:45,070 --> 00:16:46,890 I did not want to use my social 542 00:16:46,890 --> 00:16:48,730 security number when it came to filing for 543 00:16:48,730 --> 00:16:50,190 business things. 544 00:16:50,290 --> 00:16:51,790 If you go to Google, you type in 545 00:16:51,790 --> 00:16:54,590 EIN, it'll take you to the federal government 546 00:16:54,590 --> 00:16:56,830 website, and you can file for the EIN 547 00:16:56,830 --> 00:16:57,690 instantaneously. 548 00:16:57,930 --> 00:16:59,190 That is what I put in all my 549 00:16:59,190 --> 00:17:01,090 documents when I fill out W-9s, and 550 00:17:01,090 --> 00:17:03,310 that is stuff that's related directly to my 551 00:17:03,310 --> 00:17:03,589 business. 552 00:17:04,170 --> 00:17:06,589 Now that year, if you could imagine, I 553 00:17:06,589 --> 00:17:09,170 had booked weddings, I'd done a couple shoots, 554 00:17:09,930 --> 00:17:11,329 but I also bought gear. 555 00:17:11,770 --> 00:17:13,910 So I didn't end up profiting that year. 556 00:17:13,910 --> 00:17:15,369 That year, we took a loss for the 557 00:17:15,369 --> 00:17:17,130 business, but it was an educated loss. 558 00:17:17,569 --> 00:17:20,270 And furthermore, we didn't get into debt for 559 00:17:20,270 --> 00:17:23,530 buying things we couldn't afford, because making an 560 00:17:23,530 --> 00:17:25,390 investment for your business is really scary, and 561 00:17:25,390 --> 00:17:26,730 it's absolutely terrifying. 562 00:17:27,109 --> 00:17:30,690 So I only really know how to talk 563 00:17:30,690 --> 00:17:32,290 about investments in regards to my business, and 564 00:17:32,290 --> 00:17:33,730 I have a very cautious approach. 565 00:17:34,210 --> 00:17:36,630 I know that my cautious approach stems from 566 00:17:36,630 --> 00:17:38,690 the fact that I grew up very poor. 567 00:17:38,990 --> 00:17:41,110 I saw my parents lose not one, but 568 00:17:41,110 --> 00:17:41,890 two homes. 569 00:17:42,290 --> 00:17:44,110 We had had things given to us and 570 00:17:44,110 --> 00:17:44,970 donated to us. 571 00:17:45,230 --> 00:17:46,850 We rode the bus as our formal, and 572 00:17:46,850 --> 00:17:48,370 I mean, well, here when you say in 573 00:17:48,370 --> 00:17:49,790 Seattle, you rode the bus, it's like, yeah, 574 00:17:49,870 --> 00:17:50,130 and? 575 00:17:50,450 --> 00:17:52,370 Okay, in LA, when you ride the bus, 576 00:17:52,470 --> 00:17:55,410 it's a clear distinction of like a socioeconomic 577 00:17:55,410 --> 00:17:55,830 status. 578 00:17:55,990 --> 00:17:57,110 It is not like we're trying to be 579 00:17:57,110 --> 00:17:57,370 green. 580 00:17:57,530 --> 00:17:58,770 It is literally, that is what you can 581 00:17:58,770 --> 00:17:59,070 afford. 582 00:17:59,810 --> 00:18:01,230 So we did all of that. 583 00:18:01,290 --> 00:18:02,270 So then when it comes time to make 584 00:18:02,270 --> 00:18:04,670 investments in my business, I'm extraordinarily cautious. 585 00:18:05,250 --> 00:18:08,210 I would only buy things that I could 586 00:18:08,210 --> 00:18:08,530 afford. 587 00:18:09,010 --> 00:18:11,270 Now, I am not saying that there is 588 00:18:11,270 --> 00:18:13,770 a photographer who shouldn't take out a business 589 00:18:13,770 --> 00:18:16,190 loan to start and pursue his or her 590 00:18:16,190 --> 00:18:16,490 dreams. 591 00:18:17,010 --> 00:18:19,190 I am just saying that I would be 592 00:18:19,190 --> 00:18:24,530 very, very cautious because how hard do you 593 00:18:24,530 --> 00:18:26,710 have to work to break even on taking 594 00:18:26,710 --> 00:18:28,310 out a $15,000 loan? 595 00:18:28,610 --> 00:18:29,970 Do you think in your first year of 596 00:18:29,970 --> 00:18:32,250 business, you will profit $15,000? 597 00:18:33,110 --> 00:18:34,330 For those of you guys who have been 598 00:18:34,330 --> 00:18:36,270 experienced, we're all shaking our heads no. 599 00:18:36,270 --> 00:18:38,530 The first year, you're not profiting $15,000. 600 00:18:38,790 --> 00:18:40,110 So you're going to be paying interest. 601 00:18:40,230 --> 00:18:41,550 So you're not really paying $15,000 on 602 00:18:41,550 --> 00:18:41,750 that loan. 603 00:18:41,950 --> 00:18:44,170 You're going to be paying $17,000, $18 604 00:18:44,170 --> 00:18:46,470 ,000 to start a business without doing it 605 00:18:46,470 --> 00:18:46,710 right. 606 00:18:46,930 --> 00:18:48,190 And I think that in this industry, and 607 00:18:48,190 --> 00:18:50,610 I should say not right, doing it smart. 608 00:18:51,130 --> 00:18:53,350 There's amazing websites where you can rent lenses 609 00:18:53,350 --> 00:18:54,990 and they are delivered to your doorstep. 610 00:18:55,330 --> 00:18:56,210 They're for larger cities. 611 00:18:56,330 --> 00:18:57,570 There are camera stores that you can walk 612 00:18:57,570 --> 00:18:58,650 in and you get a three-day rental 613 00:18:58,650 --> 00:19:00,290 for $25 to $55. 614 00:19:00,790 --> 00:19:02,850 That is exactly how we started. 615 00:19:03,290 --> 00:19:05,990 You can rent a 50-millimeter 1.4 616 00:19:05,990 --> 00:19:07,690 for about $18 or $20. 617 00:19:08,350 --> 00:19:10,610 Now you can rent a 70-200 for 618 00:19:10,610 --> 00:19:12,650 somewhere in the ballpark of $60 to $75 619 00:19:12,650 --> 00:19:14,010 depending on where you live. 620 00:19:14,410 --> 00:19:17,850 That $75 is so much better than spending 621 00:19:17,850 --> 00:19:20,650 $1,500 to buy the lens on credit. 622 00:19:21,450 --> 00:19:24,050 Now, we're going to move into how I 623 00:19:24,050 --> 00:19:24,870 invested for my business. 624 00:19:25,270 --> 00:19:27,210 So now we've walked out to how to 625 00:19:27,210 --> 00:19:28,190 start a business and most of you in 626 00:19:28,190 --> 00:19:29,550 this room, I'm guessing, are at that point. 627 00:19:29,750 --> 00:19:30,850 But then it comes to, well, how do 628 00:19:30,850 --> 00:19:32,010 I invest back into it? 629 00:19:32,010 --> 00:19:33,490 Once I get the momentum, do I go 630 00:19:33,490 --> 00:19:34,450 out and buy all my gear? 631 00:19:34,650 --> 00:19:35,910 This is exactly how it happened. 632 00:19:36,150 --> 00:19:37,630 Now, I have mentioned that we started with 633 00:19:37,630 --> 00:19:39,990 very little, but here's an abbreviated version of 634 00:19:39,990 --> 00:19:40,610 how it happened. 635 00:19:40,890 --> 00:19:44,950 In January of 2006, well, okay, really, I 636 00:19:44,950 --> 00:19:48,670 received my camera December 25th, 2005. 637 00:19:49,010 --> 00:19:50,770 It was a Christmas gift in 2005. 638 00:19:51,210 --> 00:19:53,550 But me just being weird and awkward me, 639 00:19:53,630 --> 00:19:55,290 I was like, no, no, I can't open 640 00:19:55,290 --> 00:19:57,570 the box to the camera until January 1st, 641 00:19:57,630 --> 00:19:59,590 2006 because I'm all about new beginnings. 642 00:19:59,590 --> 00:20:01,090 I'm all about fresh starts. 643 00:20:01,270 --> 00:20:04,230 And 2005 was just not that great of 644 00:20:04,230 --> 00:20:05,390 a year, but 2006 is going to be 645 00:20:05,390 --> 00:20:05,950 my year. 646 00:20:06,290 --> 00:20:09,670 So I opened my camera, Canon 20D, on 647 00:20:09,670 --> 00:20:10,570 January 1st, 2006. 648 00:20:10,850 --> 00:20:12,110 So that's when I say that is when 649 00:20:12,110 --> 00:20:14,050 my business, I was in business. 650 00:20:14,270 --> 00:20:15,630 Not so technically, but technically. 651 00:20:16,430 --> 00:20:19,870 March 2006, I had had my camera and 652 00:20:19,870 --> 00:20:21,870 the kit lens for about three months and 653 00:20:21,870 --> 00:20:23,790 then I realized this kit lens is just 654 00:20:23,790 --> 00:20:24,670 not going to cut it. 655 00:20:24,670 --> 00:20:27,790 So we had invested, we had, I probably, 656 00:20:28,350 --> 00:20:29,790 we had a little bit of money after 657 00:20:29,790 --> 00:20:30,230 our wedding. 658 00:20:30,390 --> 00:20:31,290 And we had a little bit of money 659 00:20:31,290 --> 00:20:33,850 because I was on scholarship at UCLA Law 660 00:20:33,850 --> 00:20:34,050 School. 661 00:20:34,370 --> 00:20:35,930 And so I had taken the scholarships and 662 00:20:35,930 --> 00:20:37,230 that's what we survived off of. 663 00:20:37,290 --> 00:20:38,670 And so I just thought, I'm going to 664 00:20:38,670 --> 00:20:40,130 be paying back these scholarships anyway. 665 00:20:40,330 --> 00:20:42,330 I'm going to use this money and bought 666 00:20:42,330 --> 00:20:45,510 a Canon 24-70 2.8 IS. 667 00:20:46,010 --> 00:20:47,870 And that was the lens that I used 668 00:20:47,870 --> 00:20:48,650 the most. 669 00:20:48,910 --> 00:20:51,030 It was a pivotal foundational lens in my 670 00:20:51,030 --> 00:20:51,430 business. 671 00:20:52,490 --> 00:20:56,290 April 2006, I assisted a photographer for the 672 00:20:56,290 --> 00:20:59,090 first time and I rented the 70-200. 673 00:20:59,390 --> 00:21:01,190 So I went to that first second shooting 674 00:21:01,190 --> 00:21:03,970 gig with two lenses, the 24-70 and 675 00:21:03,970 --> 00:21:04,830 the 70-200. 676 00:21:05,070 --> 00:21:07,750 So my range was 24-200. 677 00:21:08,810 --> 00:21:10,370 At the core of it, you can shoot 678 00:21:10,370 --> 00:21:12,890 an entire wedding and get an entire scope 679 00:21:12,890 --> 00:21:14,130 of the day and be proud of your 680 00:21:14,130 --> 00:21:15,470 portfolio with two lenses. 681 00:21:15,670 --> 00:21:16,850 Now, I am not saying that's what you 682 00:21:16,850 --> 00:21:18,510 should do, but that is what I did. 683 00:21:18,510 --> 00:21:21,250 It is possible and we rocked that setup 684 00:21:21,250 --> 00:21:22,690 for a long time. 685 00:21:23,630 --> 00:21:25,050 I also rented a flash. 686 00:21:25,530 --> 00:21:25,750 Sorry. 687 00:21:26,130 --> 00:21:28,030 So I rented the 70-200 and a 688 00:21:28,030 --> 00:21:29,210 flash because I did not have one. 689 00:21:30,350 --> 00:21:33,790 In May through July, I assisted other photographers 690 00:21:33,790 --> 00:21:34,670 and I shot their weddings. 691 00:21:35,170 --> 00:21:36,970 And by the payments that I received from 692 00:21:36,970 --> 00:21:38,810 them, I saved up to buy the 70 693 00:21:38,810 --> 00:21:39,450 -200. 694 00:21:40,670 --> 00:21:42,990 I also bought the Canon 550 EX. 695 00:21:43,610 --> 00:21:45,710 I actually first and foremost went because y 696 00:21:45,710 --> 00:21:46,970 'all know by this point in time, I 697 00:21:46,970 --> 00:21:48,550 have issues with money and I can be 698 00:21:48,550 --> 00:21:49,210 very cheap. 699 00:21:49,370 --> 00:21:51,170 I bought the 480 and the guy at 700 00:21:51,170 --> 00:21:52,930 the store was just like, you should really 701 00:21:52,930 --> 00:21:53,690 invest in the 550. 702 00:21:53,870 --> 00:21:54,930 It's going to be worth the extra money. 703 00:21:55,030 --> 00:21:56,990 And I said, no, no, I'm fine. 704 00:21:57,190 --> 00:21:58,470 After the first wedding that I shot it, 705 00:21:58,530 --> 00:22:00,090 I was like, oh, I made the worst 706 00:22:00,090 --> 00:22:00,430 decision. 707 00:22:00,850 --> 00:22:02,350 Went back, bought the 550. 708 00:22:03,710 --> 00:22:06,690 I wasted money because I was cheap the 709 00:22:06,690 --> 00:22:07,670 first time around. 710 00:22:08,030 --> 00:22:09,030 So what does this teach you? 711 00:22:09,130 --> 00:22:10,130 You get what you pay for. 712 00:22:10,270 --> 00:22:12,090 If you can't afford it, save up for 713 00:22:12,090 --> 00:22:12,270 it. 714 00:22:12,390 --> 00:22:14,210 It really, really makes a big difference. 715 00:22:15,230 --> 00:22:19,250 So in August of 2006, I second shot 716 00:22:19,250 --> 00:22:21,290 two weddings for a photographer friend and she 717 00:22:21,290 --> 00:22:22,910 said she couldn't pay me, but I could 718 00:22:22,910 --> 00:22:24,130 use the images in my portfolio. 719 00:22:24,390 --> 00:22:25,630 And I said, great, I'm done. 720 00:22:25,750 --> 00:22:27,190 But what she did was she had an 721 00:22:27,190 --> 00:22:30,290 extra Canon 50mm 1.4 and she gave 722 00:22:30,290 --> 00:22:30,650 it to me. 723 00:22:30,990 --> 00:22:31,770 So that was my payment. 724 00:22:32,230 --> 00:22:33,550 I was like, okay, I would definitely shoot 725 00:22:33,550 --> 00:22:37,670 two weddings for a 50mm 1.4. Then 726 00:22:37,670 --> 00:22:43,410 what we did in the second lens that 727 00:22:43,410 --> 00:22:45,550 I bought on my own was the 16 728 00:22:45,550 --> 00:22:46,170 -35. 729 00:22:47,290 --> 00:22:49,790 This lens is so wide. 730 00:22:49,910 --> 00:22:50,930 And some of you guys are like, why 731 00:22:50,930 --> 00:22:51,770 would you get that lens? 732 00:22:52,030 --> 00:22:52,710 I don't know. 733 00:22:52,930 --> 00:22:54,870 I saw the cool kid photographers were using 734 00:22:54,870 --> 00:22:55,090 it. 735 00:22:55,310 --> 00:22:55,950 I really did. 736 00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:58,030 I based my entire judgment on that lens 737 00:22:58,030 --> 00:22:59,770 based on, you know what, all the cool 738 00:22:59,770 --> 00:23:01,410 people that I follow are using wide lenses. 739 00:23:01,570 --> 00:23:03,230 It did not reflect my style, but that 740 00:23:03,230 --> 00:23:04,610 was a mistake on my own, which is 741 00:23:04,610 --> 00:23:07,390 why we started off this course with how 742 00:23:07,390 --> 00:23:08,590 to define your photographic style. 743 00:23:08,830 --> 00:23:10,350 It should be a ellipse so you don't 744 00:23:10,350 --> 00:23:12,570 spend money on lenses you won't use, like 745 00:23:12,570 --> 00:23:12,790 me. 746 00:23:13,850 --> 00:23:15,970 Now, at this point in time, I saved 747 00:23:15,970 --> 00:23:17,090 it to buy the 16-35. 748 00:23:17,430 --> 00:23:20,410 So in September of 2006, I opened my 749 00:23:20,410 --> 00:23:21,690 camera in January 2006. 750 00:23:22,090 --> 00:23:25,110 In September, nine months later, I have four 751 00:23:25,110 --> 00:23:25,410 lenses. 752 00:23:25,910 --> 00:23:27,950 I have the 24-70. 753 00:23:28,530 --> 00:23:31,550 I have the 70-200. 754 00:23:32,070 --> 00:23:34,030 I have the 50-millimeter that was given 755 00:23:34,030 --> 00:23:34,410 to me. 756 00:23:34,670 --> 00:23:38,570 And we bought the 16-35, in addition 757 00:23:38,570 --> 00:23:40,670 to two sets of flash, one that was 758 00:23:40,670 --> 00:23:41,530 really only working. 759 00:23:42,170 --> 00:23:46,450 In late September of 2006, early October, we 760 00:23:46,450 --> 00:23:47,290 booked our first wedding. 761 00:23:48,070 --> 00:23:50,050 And I asked JD to come along with 762 00:23:50,050 --> 00:23:52,830 me and we rented the lenses that he 763 00:23:52,830 --> 00:23:53,110 needed. 764 00:23:53,190 --> 00:23:54,750 Because by this time, I was shooting with 765 00:23:54,750 --> 00:23:55,290 the four lenses. 766 00:23:55,430 --> 00:23:56,410 I was more than covered. 767 00:23:56,630 --> 00:23:57,270 I had flash. 768 00:23:57,410 --> 00:23:58,170 I was more than covered. 769 00:23:58,290 --> 00:23:59,950 But now we had to rent everything for 770 00:23:59,950 --> 00:24:00,190 JD. 771 00:24:00,190 --> 00:24:02,330 So you're seeing kind of what the pattern 772 00:24:02,330 --> 00:24:02,610 happened. 773 00:24:02,710 --> 00:24:03,890 I did not go and get three or 774 00:24:03,890 --> 00:24:04,690 four lenses all at once. 775 00:24:04,810 --> 00:24:06,330 I only bought what I could afford. 776 00:24:07,830 --> 00:24:10,490 So, I think that's what this boils down 777 00:24:10,490 --> 00:24:12,450 to, is not to buy what you can't 778 00:24:12,450 --> 00:24:12,650 afford. 779 00:24:12,870 --> 00:24:14,910 We profited very little from our first wedding. 780 00:24:15,090 --> 00:24:16,390 But we set up a savings account. 781 00:24:16,970 --> 00:24:19,270 Now, the money that we made from the 782 00:24:19,270 --> 00:24:21,890 first three weddings, we used any sort of 783 00:24:21,890 --> 00:24:23,550 profit to put towards buying a computer. 784 00:24:23,930 --> 00:24:25,850 So my first setup, because a lot of 785 00:24:25,850 --> 00:24:27,130 times photographers will start a business and they 786 00:24:27,130 --> 00:24:28,810 say, I need a full, legit setup. 787 00:24:29,110 --> 00:24:29,870 I need this. 788 00:24:29,950 --> 00:24:30,570 I need the RAM. 789 00:24:30,670 --> 00:24:31,670 I need X, Y, and Z. 790 00:24:31,850 --> 00:24:34,870 I started off with a 12-inch MacBook 791 00:24:34,870 --> 00:24:37,030 that I used for work. 792 00:24:37,090 --> 00:24:38,070 And then I would plug in a hard 793 00:24:38,070 --> 00:24:38,350 drive. 794 00:24:38,650 --> 00:24:39,670 And I didn't have a mouse. 795 00:24:39,710 --> 00:24:40,410 I had a trackpad. 796 00:24:40,510 --> 00:24:42,270 So I edited all my photos on a 797 00:24:42,270 --> 00:24:42,730 trackpad. 798 00:24:42,890 --> 00:24:44,470 And I didn't know how to use Lightroom. 799 00:24:44,550 --> 00:24:46,690 So I opened up each photo in Photoshop 800 00:24:46,690 --> 00:24:48,690 and edited on a trackpad. 801 00:24:48,750 --> 00:24:50,370 And the first wedding that my clients got 802 00:24:50,370 --> 00:24:52,950 had about 900 or 1,000 images. 803 00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:57,150 And that's what I edited, one by one. 804 00:24:57,710 --> 00:24:58,690 I didn't know any better. 805 00:24:58,850 --> 00:25:00,010 And I was like, is this what everybody 806 00:25:00,010 --> 00:25:00,350 does? 807 00:25:00,430 --> 00:25:01,330 This sucks. 808 00:25:02,030 --> 00:25:03,670 And then my life changed when I found 809 00:25:03,670 --> 00:25:04,450 batch processing. 810 00:25:04,550 --> 00:25:05,950 And then my life changed when I found 811 00:25:05,950 --> 00:25:06,950 out that I can outsource that. 812 00:25:07,010 --> 00:25:08,170 But that was how it worked. 813 00:25:08,470 --> 00:25:09,530 So first we went to lenses. 814 00:25:09,790 --> 00:25:11,350 Then we went to basic gear set up 815 00:25:11,350 --> 00:25:11,990 for computers. 816 00:25:14,030 --> 00:25:15,670 Now, I think it's important not to get 817 00:25:15,670 --> 00:25:17,830 caught up to wanting to say you want 818 00:25:17,830 --> 00:25:19,230 to use the nicest gear. 819 00:25:19,670 --> 00:25:20,290 There's an illusion. 820 00:25:20,410 --> 00:25:21,190 We would go to weddings. 821 00:25:21,710 --> 00:25:23,830 And I was shooting with the Canon 20D. 822 00:25:23,930 --> 00:25:24,890 And there would be a photographer there with 823 00:25:24,890 --> 00:25:25,490 a 5D. 824 00:25:26,390 --> 00:25:28,230 He would kind of be like, oh, how 825 00:25:28,230 --> 00:25:28,970 sweet. 826 00:25:30,070 --> 00:25:31,150 And I was just like, I felt like 827 00:25:31,150 --> 00:25:31,750 saying, you know what? 828 00:25:32,050 --> 00:25:32,870 You're shooting in auto. 829 00:25:33,630 --> 00:25:36,010 You know, me shooting manual with my Canon 830 00:25:36,010 --> 00:25:38,690 20D will be far superior than you shooting 831 00:25:38,690 --> 00:25:39,890 auto in your 5D. 832 00:25:39,950 --> 00:25:40,930 And whether or not that was the truth, 833 00:25:40,990 --> 00:25:41,450 I don't know. 834 00:25:41,510 --> 00:25:42,830 But that was the thing I told myself. 835 00:25:43,470 --> 00:25:45,830 I think it comes down to photographers jumping 836 00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:46,850 off into the deep end. 837 00:25:47,490 --> 00:25:48,710 And then they use a credit card. 838 00:25:48,770 --> 00:25:50,090 And then they hope that things work. 839 00:25:50,090 --> 00:25:52,890 But I can't help to really emphasize the 840 00:25:52,890 --> 00:25:54,550 importance of making smart decisions. 841 00:25:55,170 --> 00:25:57,630 Because smarter decisions aren't always the coolest decisions. 842 00:25:57,890 --> 00:26:01,350 But understanding there's a complex relationship between starting 843 00:26:01,350 --> 00:26:02,890 a business and being a photographer. 844 00:26:03,610 --> 00:26:05,790 If push came to shove, I could absolutely 845 00:26:05,790 --> 00:26:09,730 shoot a wedding with a 24-70 and 846 00:26:09,730 --> 00:26:11,730 with a 7200. 847 00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:13,450 That is what I started with. 848 00:26:13,710 --> 00:26:15,170 I could still shoot a wedding just to 849 00:26:15,170 --> 00:26:15,550 that day. 850 00:26:15,890 --> 00:26:17,330 Take time to understand what your style is 851 00:26:17,330 --> 00:26:17,950 and then own it. 852 00:26:17,950 --> 00:26:19,930 Don't feel under the gun. 853 00:26:20,270 --> 00:26:21,150 Rent until you can afford. 854 00:26:22,470 --> 00:26:24,830 Now, it was very emotional to kind of 855 00:26:24,830 --> 00:26:27,590 be buying things and not really seeing a 856 00:26:27,590 --> 00:26:27,850 return. 857 00:26:28,210 --> 00:26:31,330 And that was the hardest part about starting 858 00:26:31,330 --> 00:26:32,930 a business and feeling like you go slowly. 859 00:26:33,150 --> 00:26:34,190 I want to read an email that I 860 00:26:34,190 --> 00:26:35,590 got from a girl. 861 00:26:36,690 --> 00:26:38,270 And I wondered if... 862 00:26:38,270 --> 00:26:39,910 I know I've been in her position. 863 00:26:40,290 --> 00:26:41,190 So I wonder if there's some of you 864 00:26:41,190 --> 00:26:42,270 guys might feel the same way. 865 00:26:42,890 --> 00:26:44,530 Dear Jasmine, I've been frustrated lately. 866 00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:45,930 I'm not booking clients. 867 00:26:45,930 --> 00:26:48,150 I get so many inquiries but no bookings. 868 00:26:48,410 --> 00:26:49,810 I second shoot and I assist a lot. 869 00:26:50,170 --> 00:26:52,050 I feel like maybe being socially awkward as 870 00:26:52,050 --> 00:26:54,310 I am is hurting me during my consultations. 871 00:26:54,670 --> 00:26:56,610 I've gone and reduced my pricing and I 872 00:26:56,610 --> 00:26:57,870 try to get busy but nothing. 873 00:26:58,310 --> 00:26:59,890 I'm slowly losing faith that I will ever 874 00:26:59,890 --> 00:27:00,650 become successful. 875 00:27:01,090 --> 00:27:02,850 I don't plan to give up but something 876 00:27:02,850 --> 00:27:04,070 has got to give. 877 00:27:04,330 --> 00:27:07,090 I've tried offering complimentary sessions for portfolio building, 878 00:27:07,450 --> 00:27:09,430 passing my business card out and having friends 879 00:27:09,430 --> 00:27:10,530 and family model for me. 880 00:27:10,650 --> 00:27:11,950 I don't know what else I can do 881 00:27:11,950 --> 00:27:13,790 to gain more experience. 882 00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:16,690 Photographers around here only want to hire experienced 883 00:27:16,690 --> 00:27:17,850 second shooters and assistants. 884 00:27:18,310 --> 00:27:20,370 But how do you get experience that they're 885 00:27:20,370 --> 00:27:20,950 looking for? 886 00:27:21,270 --> 00:27:22,150 I feel like I'm whining. 887 00:27:22,490 --> 00:27:23,190 I guess I am. 888 00:27:23,390 --> 00:27:24,630 I'm just so darn frustrated. 889 00:27:24,950 --> 00:27:26,250 I want to share the beauty I see 890 00:27:26,250 --> 00:27:26,650 in the world. 891 00:27:26,790 --> 00:27:27,710 I just need a chance. 892 00:27:28,170 --> 00:27:29,770 Sincerely, not ready to give up. 893 00:27:31,370 --> 00:27:32,870 Have you ever felt that way? 894 00:27:33,770 --> 00:27:34,510 I have. 895 00:27:34,830 --> 00:27:36,130 Like I read it and I was like, 896 00:27:36,290 --> 00:27:37,230 I feel you. 897 00:27:37,510 --> 00:27:40,470 Because momentum is the hardest thing to get 898 00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:42,130 when you are starting a business. 899 00:27:42,130 --> 00:27:44,570 Because once you have momentum, even the tiny 900 00:27:44,570 --> 00:27:46,630 bit, you can find ways to leverage it. 901 00:27:46,950 --> 00:27:48,130 But I read this and my heart went 902 00:27:48,130 --> 00:27:49,570 out to her because I'm just like, I 903 00:27:49,570 --> 00:27:50,310 feel you. 904 00:27:50,570 --> 00:27:52,170 I will tell you some of the things 905 00:27:52,170 --> 00:27:53,330 that I did or my suggestions. 906 00:27:53,870 --> 00:27:55,630 Dear ready not to give up, I'm sorry 907 00:27:55,630 --> 00:27:57,510 you're so darn frustrated but I want to 908 00:27:57,510 --> 00:27:59,050 crawl through the computer and shake you. 909 00:27:59,470 --> 00:28:01,490 You're talented and you're hungry for more so 910 00:28:01,490 --> 00:28:02,290 stop whining. 911 00:28:02,770 --> 00:28:03,670 Does that sound mean? 912 00:28:04,110 --> 00:28:05,050 Yes, likely. 913 00:28:05,390 --> 00:28:07,450 But life is good even when it feels 914 00:28:07,450 --> 00:28:08,170 like it isn't. 915 00:28:08,570 --> 00:28:10,290 The worst part is that life feels like 916 00:28:10,290 --> 00:28:11,310 it's moving too slowly. 917 00:28:11,310 --> 00:28:12,950 I get it, totally. 918 00:28:13,410 --> 00:28:14,670 When I first started my business, I felt 919 00:28:14,670 --> 00:28:16,670 like I was getting shoots at a snail's 920 00:28:16,670 --> 00:28:16,970 pace. 921 00:28:17,230 --> 00:28:19,110 But in retrospect, I just needed more time 922 00:28:19,110 --> 00:28:20,910 to research and practice my photo skills. 923 00:28:21,290 --> 00:28:23,030 And no, you can never get enough of 924 00:28:23,030 --> 00:28:23,250 that. 925 00:28:23,710 --> 00:28:25,050 So then I went on and then I 926 00:28:25,050 --> 00:28:26,670 explained what I'm going to get into now. 927 00:28:26,910 --> 00:28:28,370 I went on and I continued what I 928 00:28:28,370 --> 00:28:28,930 think she should do. 929 00:28:29,030 --> 00:28:31,850 First, she needs to ask the second photographer 930 00:28:31,850 --> 00:28:34,310 she has shot with for feedback and a 931 00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:35,450 critique of her work. 932 00:28:35,910 --> 00:28:38,010 She will never, most photographers, if you are 933 00:28:38,010 --> 00:28:41,670 a first photographer, there's very, it's unlikely that 934 00:28:41,670 --> 00:28:42,490 you're going to turn to your second shooter 935 00:28:42,490 --> 00:28:43,470 and be like, so let me tell you 936 00:28:43,470 --> 00:28:44,930 a few things you can improve on. 937 00:28:45,250 --> 00:28:48,130 We as first photographers will only say those 938 00:28:48,130 --> 00:28:49,510 things if we are given the permission to 939 00:28:49,510 --> 00:28:51,430 speak to other people in that way, or 940 00:28:51,430 --> 00:28:52,090 at least I am. 941 00:28:52,170 --> 00:28:53,610 I'm too uncomfortable to be like, let me 942 00:28:53,610 --> 00:28:54,950 give you some unsolicited advice. 943 00:28:55,210 --> 00:28:56,010 That's just not really me. 944 00:28:56,210 --> 00:28:57,450 You ask me for advice and I will 945 00:28:57,450 --> 00:28:58,910 definitely tell you and be honest with it. 946 00:28:59,170 --> 00:29:01,310 It might be uncomfortable to hear, but the 947 00:29:01,310 --> 00:29:02,790 only way you will get better as a 948 00:29:02,790 --> 00:29:04,390 second shooter and as a first shooter is 949 00:29:04,390 --> 00:29:05,750 if you have somebody speak into your life 950 00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:06,790 in a way that may or may not 951 00:29:06,790 --> 00:29:07,050 hurt. 952 00:29:07,750 --> 00:29:09,910 Next, I told her to join a photography 953 00:29:09,910 --> 00:29:12,130 group because by her getting into a photography 954 00:29:12,130 --> 00:29:13,550 group, one, it makes her feel less alone. 955 00:29:13,970 --> 00:29:15,450 Two, she could put her work out for 956 00:29:15,450 --> 00:29:15,970 a critique. 957 00:29:16,650 --> 00:29:18,450 These are the things that are so wildly 958 00:29:18,450 --> 00:29:18,950 uncomfortable. 959 00:29:19,110 --> 00:29:20,550 Just the notion of putting out my work 960 00:29:20,550 --> 00:29:22,470 to have people, actually, this is totally off 961 00:29:22,470 --> 00:29:22,730 my notes. 962 00:29:23,270 --> 00:29:26,050 There was this contest of sorts and somebody, 963 00:29:26,450 --> 00:29:28,030 and the guy, he contacted me and he 964 00:29:28,030 --> 00:29:29,610 said, can you judge this contest? 965 00:29:29,690 --> 00:29:31,490 And I said, no, I don't judge contests. 966 00:29:31,570 --> 00:29:32,810 And he's like, you just pick a few 967 00:29:32,810 --> 00:29:34,390 of your favorites and then people vote on 968 00:29:34,390 --> 00:29:34,630 those. 969 00:29:34,670 --> 00:29:35,810 And I said, okay, let me try it 970 00:29:35,810 --> 00:29:35,930 out. 971 00:29:35,930 --> 00:29:37,130 And he said, if you have to be 972 00:29:37,130 --> 00:29:39,330 a judge, you must submit three photos so 973 00:29:39,330 --> 00:29:40,490 that you can create a profile. 974 00:29:40,650 --> 00:29:41,430 And I said, okay, fine. 975 00:29:41,590 --> 00:29:42,690 So I submitted these three photos. 976 00:29:42,930 --> 00:29:46,810 I didn't know that the audience was voting 977 00:29:46,810 --> 00:29:47,530 on my photos. 978 00:29:48,490 --> 00:29:49,470 I didn't get it. 979 00:29:49,690 --> 00:29:50,770 I was just like, oh my God, instead 980 00:29:50,770 --> 00:29:52,570 of getting these emails and it's just like, 981 00:29:53,030 --> 00:29:54,910 your photo was passed, or this photo, it 982 00:29:54,910 --> 00:29:57,230 was like some European organization and you can 983 00:29:57,230 --> 00:29:58,930 choose one or two photos. 984 00:29:59,570 --> 00:30:01,330 And my photos just never got picked. 985 00:30:01,490 --> 00:30:03,090 How embarrassing that I'm a judge and ain't 986 00:30:03,090 --> 00:30:03,990 nobody choosing my photos. 987 00:30:03,990 --> 00:30:06,850 And then I thought to myself, it's all 988 00:30:06,850 --> 00:30:07,150 good. 989 00:30:08,170 --> 00:30:09,610 It is all good. 990 00:30:09,870 --> 00:30:10,130 Why? 991 00:30:10,290 --> 00:30:12,590 Because there are differences between getting a critique 992 00:30:12,590 --> 00:30:13,910 and getting criticism. 993 00:30:14,590 --> 00:30:17,490 I don't care about winning contesses, contesses, contest, 994 00:30:17,550 --> 00:30:18,490 contest, contesses. 995 00:30:19,050 --> 00:30:21,690 I don't care about winning contests. 996 00:30:22,430 --> 00:30:24,270 I don't care about awards. 997 00:30:24,610 --> 00:30:25,770 Yes, they're nice. 998 00:30:26,130 --> 00:30:28,110 Yes, I would never turn it away, but 999 00:30:28,110 --> 00:30:29,510 award don't pay the bills. 1000 00:30:30,470 --> 00:30:31,590 You don't like my work? 1001 00:30:32,030 --> 00:30:32,790 That's fine. 1002 00:30:32,790 --> 00:30:34,130 There are brides who do. 1003 00:30:34,650 --> 00:30:36,570 And if we can change that perspective, we 1004 00:30:36,570 --> 00:30:38,330 care less about what other people have to 1005 00:30:38,330 --> 00:30:38,650 say. 1006 00:30:39,190 --> 00:30:41,110 Now, once you have heard from your peers, 1007 00:30:41,230 --> 00:30:42,570 either the people you have second shot with 1008 00:30:42,570 --> 00:30:44,850 or the people within those photography groups, what 1009 00:30:44,850 --> 00:30:46,370 I want you to do is you'll have 1010 00:30:46,370 --> 00:30:48,830 to outline distinct ways for you to grow. 1011 00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:50,370 So if somebody says, you know what, your 1012 00:30:50,370 --> 00:30:52,190 green casts are a little too strong. 1013 00:30:52,510 --> 00:30:55,230 Or maybe your focal point is not where 1014 00:30:55,230 --> 00:30:56,850 it should be in this collection of images. 1015 00:30:57,130 --> 00:30:58,890 Or maybe it just seems like things are 1016 00:30:58,890 --> 00:31:00,450 underexposed or that they're grainy. 1017 00:31:00,550 --> 00:31:00,990 Does it hurt? 1018 00:31:00,990 --> 00:31:03,710 Yes, but if they're offering insight, now you 1019 00:31:03,710 --> 00:31:05,750 know I maybe shouldn't shoot with so much 1020 00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:06,090 ISO. 1021 00:31:06,390 --> 00:31:08,030 I may need to navigate how to shoot 1022 00:31:08,030 --> 00:31:08,470 backlit. 1023 00:31:08,670 --> 00:31:10,290 Maybe I need to kick back on like 1024 00:31:10,290 --> 00:31:12,070 that color tonality for my green tones. 1025 00:31:12,370 --> 00:31:14,030 Whatever it is, you now have a path. 1026 00:31:14,450 --> 00:31:16,150 Now, one thing that I want to clarify 1027 00:31:16,150 --> 00:31:19,430 distinctively is that there is a difference between 1028 00:31:19,430 --> 00:31:22,030 getting a critique and getting criticized. 1029 00:31:22,850 --> 00:31:23,990 And here is the difference. 1030 00:31:24,450 --> 00:31:26,370 A critique should be helpful. 1031 00:31:27,030 --> 00:31:29,130 It should be an educational opportunity. 1032 00:31:30,050 --> 00:31:33,330 When people criticize, they are trying to tear 1033 00:31:33,330 --> 00:31:33,890 you down. 1034 00:31:34,770 --> 00:31:37,350 When you put your work out, you must 1035 00:31:37,350 --> 00:31:39,370 be able to, to the best of your 1036 00:31:39,370 --> 00:31:42,470 ability, see what is the critique and what 1037 00:31:42,470 --> 00:31:42,950 is criticism. 1038 00:31:45,050 --> 00:31:47,210 Because when I think about people who criticize, 1039 00:31:47,410 --> 00:31:49,330 I say that they, they shout from the 1040 00:31:49,330 --> 00:31:49,870 sidelines. 1041 00:31:50,310 --> 00:31:51,210 And when I say that people shout from 1042 00:31:51,210 --> 00:31:52,670 the sidelines, it means that they're tucked behind 1043 00:31:52,670 --> 00:31:53,290 their computers. 1044 00:31:53,730 --> 00:31:55,570 And when people are tucked behind their computers, 1045 00:31:55,870 --> 00:31:57,150 boy, are they brave. 1046 00:31:57,670 --> 00:31:59,590 Oh, they can say whatever they want. 1047 00:31:59,650 --> 00:32:01,830 In fact, there was one particular person, I 1048 00:32:01,830 --> 00:32:03,290 said this over lunch a couple days ago 1049 00:32:03,290 --> 00:32:04,310 to a few students. 1050 00:32:04,970 --> 00:32:07,170 There was a photographer who was talking so 1051 00:32:07,170 --> 00:32:08,250 much trash about me. 1052 00:32:08,390 --> 00:32:09,790 I mean, ugly, dirty stuff. 1053 00:32:09,850 --> 00:32:12,130 Like this man must not have a life 1054 00:32:12,130 --> 00:32:14,630 at all based on the things that he 1055 00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:15,290 was talking about. 1056 00:32:16,650 --> 00:32:18,990 I'm in Las Vegas for a photography conference. 1057 00:32:19,910 --> 00:32:22,130 I'm in the elevator, the door's open. 1058 00:32:22,830 --> 00:32:24,890 I see the badge and I'm like, oh, 1059 00:32:25,330 --> 00:32:25,930 that's you. 1060 00:32:25,930 --> 00:32:29,030 And he walks in and he turns and 1061 00:32:29,030 --> 00:32:29,570 he just waits. 1062 00:32:30,350 --> 00:32:31,030 And he just waits. 1063 00:32:31,370 --> 00:32:32,310 I was like, months. 1064 00:32:33,050 --> 00:32:35,410 Months, homie, you're talking trash and you're standing 1065 00:32:35,410 --> 00:32:36,570 two feet from me and you ain't gonna 1066 00:32:36,570 --> 00:32:37,050 say a thing? 1067 00:32:37,730 --> 00:32:38,830 Talk a big game. 1068 00:32:39,290 --> 00:32:41,630 Go behind the glow of your computer. 1069 00:32:42,410 --> 00:32:43,830 See how good that does for you. 1070 00:32:44,550 --> 00:32:46,070 Because I'm right here and you won't say 1071 00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:46,370 anything. 1072 00:32:46,970 --> 00:32:48,910 So be brave on the opposite side of 1073 00:32:48,910 --> 00:32:49,310 the coast. 1074 00:32:49,730 --> 00:32:51,690 I know you, I smell you, I'm no 1075 00:32:51,690 --> 00:32:52,310 longer intimidated. 1076 00:32:52,630 --> 00:32:53,870 If you have a problem with me, you 1077 00:32:53,870 --> 00:32:54,530 email me. 1078 00:32:54,530 --> 00:32:55,690 If you have a problem with me, you 1079 00:32:55,690 --> 00:32:56,590 say something in the elevator. 1080 00:32:56,890 --> 00:32:58,010 And if you will not say something to 1081 00:32:58,010 --> 00:32:59,330 my face, if you will not give me 1082 00:32:59,330 --> 00:33:01,650 the courtesy to send me an email, I 1083 00:33:01,650 --> 00:33:02,130 ain't got time. 1084 00:33:02,630 --> 00:33:03,250 I ain't got time. 1085 00:33:03,510 --> 00:33:05,710 Because when we know what these people do, 1086 00:33:06,470 --> 00:33:08,870 they have too much time, they have endless 1087 00:33:08,870 --> 00:33:09,290 opinions. 1088 00:33:09,850 --> 00:33:12,150 You know these people are present because when 1089 00:33:12,150 --> 00:33:14,570 they criticize a photographer, all they do is 1090 00:33:14,570 --> 00:33:15,330 tear them down. 1091 00:33:15,750 --> 00:33:18,830 And as any creative can attest, that developing 1092 00:33:18,830 --> 00:33:19,770 a craft is hard. 1093 00:33:20,170 --> 00:33:21,510 If you're a painter and you have to 1094 00:33:21,510 --> 00:33:22,990 paint a picture, that is hard. 1095 00:33:22,990 --> 00:33:24,130 If you're a writer and you have to 1096 00:33:24,130 --> 00:33:25,290 write a book, that is hard. 1097 00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:26,670 If you're a photographer and you're trying to 1098 00:33:26,670 --> 00:33:28,130 learn how to take a photograph, it's hard. 1099 00:33:28,290 --> 00:33:30,090 And it's time consuming and it's frustrating. 1100 00:33:30,510 --> 00:33:32,170 So when you put your work out online, 1101 00:33:32,430 --> 00:33:34,770 you hold your breath and you hope that 1102 00:33:34,770 --> 00:33:35,750 people are nice to you. 1103 00:33:36,090 --> 00:33:37,530 And I hate to break it to you, 1104 00:33:37,750 --> 00:33:40,250 but the chances are they probably will not 1105 00:33:40,250 --> 00:33:41,030 be nice. 1106 00:33:41,490 --> 00:33:41,770 Why? 1107 00:33:42,450 --> 00:33:43,830 Why aren't people nice? 1108 00:33:44,010 --> 00:33:44,950 Well the answer changes. 1109 00:33:45,370 --> 00:33:47,290 But it boils down to the negative climate 1110 00:33:47,290 --> 00:33:48,710 in the photographic industry. 1111 00:33:49,070 --> 00:33:53,110 Because those who do are different from those 1112 00:33:53,110 --> 00:33:54,750 who merely think about doing. 1113 00:33:55,390 --> 00:33:57,810 The people who just think about doing, well 1114 00:33:57,810 --> 00:33:58,430 they have opinions. 1115 00:33:59,550 --> 00:34:01,970 Those who think about doing, they insist they 1116 00:34:01,970 --> 00:34:02,610 can do it better. 1117 00:34:03,110 --> 00:34:04,270 They would have done it differently. 1118 00:34:04,690 --> 00:34:06,130 They would have used off-camera flash. 1119 00:34:06,350 --> 00:34:07,650 They would have left room for cropping. 1120 00:34:07,909 --> 00:34:09,670 They might have photoshopped the sky back in. 1121 00:34:10,170 --> 00:34:13,429 Could have, would have, should have, but they 1122 00:34:13,429 --> 00:34:14,570 didn't, right? 1123 00:34:14,790 --> 00:34:17,110 Because those who do, those who do, well 1124 00:34:17,110 --> 00:34:17,949 they make mistakes. 1125 00:34:18,670 --> 00:34:22,370 They trip, they overexpose, they underexpose, they fall 1126 00:34:22,370 --> 00:34:24,610 flat on their faces, they clip highlights, they 1127 00:34:24,610 --> 00:34:26,429 crop out toes, they blow out the sky, 1128 00:34:26,590 --> 00:34:29,050 but they embrace their missteps and they know 1129 00:34:29,050 --> 00:34:30,750 that it's making them better. 1130 00:34:31,550 --> 00:34:34,290 To fail publicly and grow is far better 1131 00:34:34,290 --> 00:34:36,710 than staying in a point of stagnation doing 1132 00:34:36,710 --> 00:34:37,210 nothing. 1133 00:34:37,670 --> 00:34:41,030 So basically those people who do get better. 1134 00:34:41,469 --> 00:34:43,469 So what I'm saying is if you're afraid 1135 00:34:43,469 --> 00:34:46,210 of failing and you're doing, you're getting better. 1136 00:34:47,110 --> 00:34:49,230 For those of you who are doing, be 1137 00:34:49,230 --> 00:34:49,670 great. 1138 00:34:50,270 --> 00:34:53,010 Stand strong in the negative choppy waters of 1139 00:34:53,010 --> 00:34:54,370 criticism within the industry. 1140 00:34:55,010 --> 00:34:57,230 Trust that your mistakes are stepping stones to 1141 00:34:57,230 --> 00:34:59,750 your dreams and continue to learn from the 1142 00:34:59,750 --> 00:35:01,950 past and extend yourself grace when you realize 1143 00:35:01,950 --> 00:35:04,070 I'm not really where I want to be. 1144 00:35:04,570 --> 00:35:06,910 Because those who do move confidently in the 1145 00:35:06,910 --> 00:35:09,190 directions of their dreams and those who simply 1146 00:35:09,190 --> 00:35:12,610 don't watch as life passes them by in 1147 00:35:12,610 --> 00:35:14,530 mere hopes that life will change and get 1148 00:35:14,530 --> 00:35:16,910 better for them when it won't because they 1149 00:35:16,910 --> 00:35:18,450 do not have the hunger and the desire 1150 00:35:18,450 --> 00:35:18,950 to do. 1151 00:35:19,730 --> 00:35:21,910 So as you do, go confidently and I 1152 00:35:21,910 --> 00:35:22,930 wish you guys the best. 1153 00:35:23,790 --> 00:35:26,710 Having said that, are there questions in regards 1154 00:35:26,710 --> 00:35:28,550 to starting a business or things that you 1155 00:35:28,550 --> 00:35:30,990 might have navigated and tried to figure out? 1156 00:35:31,150 --> 00:35:31,970 Am I doing this right? 1157 00:35:32,150 --> 00:35:33,610 So we're gonna get a mic to Tara 1158 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,660 and then if there's another person with a 1159 00:35:37,660 --> 00:35:39,200 question, we'll get the mic, we'll go back 1160 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,800 there and then we'll bring the mic back 1161 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,000 up here and bring it right up here. 1162 00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:42,920 Okay. 1163 00:35:43,620 --> 00:35:45,380 So this might be really nitty gritty, but 1164 00:35:45,380 --> 00:35:48,880 I wanted to know how you decided how 1165 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,720 much to pay yourself once you started making 1166 00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:51,180 more money? 1167 00:35:51,340 --> 00:35:51,800 Great question. 1168 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,660 Like how frequently and how are you saving? 1169 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:55,780 Great, great, great, great, great. 1170 00:35:56,100 --> 00:35:57,980 Okay, so because you guys know the history, 1171 00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,680 my history is I'm very conservative. 1172 00:36:00,100 --> 00:36:01,300 I only afford what I can buy. 1173 00:36:01,620 --> 00:36:03,140 I grew up very, very, very poor. 1174 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,680 So we have learned, J.D. says, you 1175 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:06,780 shouldn't say the word poor. 1176 00:36:07,020 --> 00:36:08,540 You should say economically disadvantaged. 1177 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,720 I was like, baby, my parents were so 1178 00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:12,200 poor we couldn't even afford the O.R. 1179 00:36:12,220 --> 00:36:12,940 We were just poor. 1180 00:36:13,060 --> 00:36:14,980 Like, it's okay, it is what it is. 1181 00:36:14,980 --> 00:36:15,580 You know what? 1182 00:36:15,660 --> 00:36:16,200 And guess what? 1183 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,560 Nothing tastes as good as government-issued cheese. 1184 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,860 I'm just telling you, it melts in a 1185 00:36:21,860 --> 00:36:23,040 way that it's just like sheer oil. 1186 00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:24,560 So people can clown on whatever they want. 1187 00:36:24,580 --> 00:36:25,400 It's like, I grew up good. 1188 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:26,360 I'm fine with it. 1189 00:36:26,420 --> 00:36:27,040 I'm fine with it. 1190 00:36:27,540 --> 00:36:31,420 So because of that, here's how it worked. 1191 00:36:31,820 --> 00:36:33,920 So I shot my very first wedding in 1192 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,620 October of 2006. 1193 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,980 And then in 2007, we booked 38 weddings. 1194 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,320 But the way that it usually works is 1195 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,140 that you get a retainer. 1196 00:36:44,140 --> 00:36:45,760 Now, a difference between a retainer and a 1197 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:46,060 deposit. 1198 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,940 Do not call what you get paid a 1199 00:36:47,940 --> 00:36:49,940 deposit because a deposit in legalese is fully 1200 00:36:49,940 --> 00:36:50,460 refundable. 1201 00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:51,680 A retainer is not. 1202 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,240 So I would receive retainers, and I require 1203 00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:55,920 a 50% retainer in advance. 1204 00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,160 So in about April of 2007, it was 1205 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,620 then when I realized I could forecast how 1206 00:37:02,620 --> 00:37:03,820 many weddings I had for the year. 1207 00:37:03,980 --> 00:37:05,800 I knew how much money I had and 1208 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:06,880 how much money was coming. 1209 00:37:07,220 --> 00:37:09,100 All I needed to do was make sure 1210 00:37:09,100 --> 00:37:11,640 that I can cover the exact same amount 1211 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,500 of money that I was getting paid for 1212 00:37:13,500 --> 00:37:14,580 my part-time job. 1213 00:37:15,620 --> 00:37:17,580 That was how I figured, if I can 1214 00:37:17,580 --> 00:37:19,040 save for this year, and then the risk 1215 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,200 became, well, I don't know if I'm gonna 1216 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,680 hang in for 2008, but I'm gonna take 1217 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,220 a risk, a cognizant, calculated risk. 1218 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,560 The money that I had booked by April, 1219 00:37:28,660 --> 00:37:31,160 I had indicated I can continue paying myself 1220 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,400 the same amount, still renting my gear, still 1221 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,580 paying my bills with this amount of money, 1222 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:37,400 and it was very little. 1223 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,100 I think the best thing was me to 1224 00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:41,280 have the most simple job. 1225 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,940 I will be honest, and I got paid 1226 00:37:42,940 --> 00:37:46,640 about $2,000 to $2,300 a month 1227 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:47,740 because I work part-time. 1228 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,100 If I can take that amount from my 1229 00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:52,640 business checking and putting into my personal and 1230 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,240 not go shopping and not veer off, that's 1231 00:37:55,240 --> 00:37:55,700 what I did. 1232 00:37:55,980 --> 00:37:58,720 Now, as the business progressed, I was then 1233 00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:00,840 able to give myself a raise here and 1234 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:01,660 there, here and there. 1235 00:38:01,820 --> 00:38:03,880 So every three weddings I booked, I raised 1236 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:04,880 my prices $300. 1237 00:38:05,540 --> 00:38:07,080 And so at the end of the year, 1238 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,180 when I saw our profitability, I might give 1239 00:38:09,180 --> 00:38:10,080 myself a bonus. 1240 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,200 Be like, it's Christmas time in the city, 1241 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:13,860 you know? 1242 00:38:13,980 --> 00:38:15,000 Like, I was going to go do something 1243 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:15,940 nice for myself, or we were going to 1244 00:38:15,940 --> 00:38:16,500 go on vacation. 1245 00:38:16,820 --> 00:38:18,340 But that was the strongest point. 1246 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,640 And now, what I pay myself is actually 1247 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:20,900 silly. 1248 00:38:21,380 --> 00:38:23,060 Technically, on paper, what I pay myself, I 1249 00:38:23,060 --> 00:38:24,080 could make more at Starbucks. 1250 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,280 And I'm okay with that because my bank 1251 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,160 account, I'm a saver. 1252 00:38:27,780 --> 00:38:28,360 That's what I do. 1253 00:38:28,540 --> 00:38:31,220 I don't need a big profitable personal account. 1254 00:38:31,380 --> 00:38:32,180 I need to pay my bills. 1255 00:38:32,620 --> 00:38:33,780 I need to have a little time for 1256 00:38:33,780 --> 00:38:37,380 going to movies, doing pleasurable things, shopping, put 1257 00:38:37,380 --> 00:38:37,960 a little bit in there. 1258 00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:40,480 And other than that, everything else. 1259 00:38:40,900 --> 00:38:42,180 So it's a personal thing. 1260 00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:43,460 In order to figure out how much you 1261 00:38:43,460 --> 00:38:44,500 need to pay yourself, you just need to 1262 00:38:44,500 --> 00:38:45,840 create a baseline, and then you need a 1263 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:46,380 state of the baseline. 1264 00:38:46,660 --> 00:38:47,780 And budgets really suck. 1265 00:38:47,940 --> 00:38:49,480 But they're really, really good for entrepreneurs the 1266 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:50,440 first two years of business. 1267 00:38:50,980 --> 00:38:52,660 Cool, we're going to go back to there. 1268 00:38:52,780 --> 00:38:52,980 Yes? 1269 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:54,700 Hi, sorry, I'm Jen. 1270 00:38:55,060 --> 00:38:55,280 Hi. 1271 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,440 So second shooters, I guess I'm kind of 1272 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,760 a snob, mostly because it's uncharted territory for 1273 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,120 me as a, I guess, lead photographer. 1274 00:39:05,700 --> 00:39:08,040 How do I find someone, because I've been 1275 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:12,240 searching, how do I find someone who shares 1276 00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:15,000 the same views as me as a photographer, 1277 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,620 but yet make them kind of feel special? 1278 00:39:17,860 --> 00:39:18,720 But anyways, sorry. 1279 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,320 Second shooter, how can I find one that 1280 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,800 will match my style and me as a 1281 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,320 person and mesh with the bride and groom? 1282 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:27,160 Great. 1283 00:39:27,540 --> 00:39:31,040 Well, I'm going to venture to say that 1284 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,320 I do not choose a second shooter. 1285 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:33,380 If I was, and this is a function 1286 00:39:33,380 --> 00:39:34,800 of the assumption, I have second shot with 1287 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,640 other photographers when JD was not available, or 1288 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,020 at the time where he was my third 1289 00:39:39,020 --> 00:39:40,420 shooter and I would hire a second shooter, 1290 00:39:40,620 --> 00:39:42,180 because we did that for a while. 1291 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:44,100 So two things. 1292 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,460 I never am concerned if my second shooter 1293 00:39:47,460 --> 00:39:48,820 gets along with my bride and groom, because 1294 00:39:48,820 --> 00:39:50,200 quite honestly, I don't want my second shooter 1295 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:50,920 talking to the bride and groom. 1296 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:52,300 I make that very clear. 1297 00:39:52,820 --> 00:39:55,300 Like, this is our show, and I need 1298 00:39:55,300 --> 00:39:56,500 to be in control of our bride and 1299 00:39:56,500 --> 00:39:58,160 groom the entirety of the time. 1300 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,200 So once that's the case, I then think 1301 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,160 to myself, finding a second shooter is like 1302 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,180 online dating. 1303 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:05,960 You need to try a few before you 1304 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:06,920 find the one. 1305 00:40:07,420 --> 00:40:09,080 But in order for you to expedite that 1306 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,420 process, what I would challenge you to do 1307 00:40:10,420 --> 00:40:12,260 is to put more of yourself online. 1308 00:40:12,380 --> 00:40:13,580 I want you to write more about yourself 1309 00:40:13,580 --> 00:40:14,020 in your blog. 1310 00:40:14,260 --> 00:40:16,320 I want you to update Facebook, Twitter, Instagram 1311 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,660 from your perspective, your point of view, because 1312 00:40:18,660 --> 00:40:19,980 you can't say, like, why don't these people 1313 00:40:19,980 --> 00:40:20,360 know me? 1314 00:40:20,500 --> 00:40:21,640 Well, they don't know you because you're not 1315 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:22,640 putting yourself out there. 1316 00:40:23,020 --> 00:40:23,900 That's going to be the main thing. 1317 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,080 The more you put yourself out there, the 1318 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,300 more you're going to attract the type of 1319 00:40:26,300 --> 00:40:27,060 second shooter that you want. 1320 00:40:27,300 --> 00:40:28,180 It's going to take some time. 1321 00:40:28,420 --> 00:40:29,440 Give yourself grace and a little bit of 1322 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,880 patience, but it's definitely worth getting a network 1323 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,980 of two or three other second shooters that 1324 00:40:33,980 --> 00:40:35,360 you can call on in a pinch. 1325 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,240 I want to do one last question if 1326 00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:39,500 there is the mic that I passed. 1327 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,080 I think that there was, did you have 1328 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:41,300 a question? 1329 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,060 I think the mic was going here. 1330 00:40:43,180 --> 00:40:43,940 So, Tara, we're going to pass the mic 1331 00:40:43,940 --> 00:40:44,140 here. 1332 00:40:47,860 --> 00:40:48,220 Hi. 1333 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,340 So, is there an advantage to getting an 1334 00:40:52,340 --> 00:40:54,900 EIN rather than using your social security? 1335 00:40:55,140 --> 00:40:56,320 No, there is not. 1336 00:40:56,420 --> 00:40:59,320 It is technically the same, but I'm just 1337 00:40:59,320 --> 00:40:59,580 weird. 1338 00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:02,160 I also don't like to put my thumbprints 1339 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,500 anywhere that they don't have to be. 1340 00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:05,500 This is like, you know, my one semester 1341 00:41:05,500 --> 00:41:06,760 in law school, boy, did it teach me 1342 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:07,000 a lot. 1343 00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:08,520 No, I just, like, at the gym, they 1344 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,060 gave you the option to use your card 1345 00:41:10,060 --> 00:41:11,320 or, like, scan your thumb. 1346 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:12,920 I was like, oh, no, I don't want 1347 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:13,400 to scan my thumb. 1348 00:41:13,660 --> 00:41:15,240 Like, where are these thumbprints going to go? 1349 00:41:15,420 --> 00:41:16,080 Where are we going to, you know? 1350 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,200 It's like, I'm that person. 1351 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,020 So, for me, I really wanted to have 1352 00:41:19,020 --> 00:41:20,920 a clear distinction between my social security and 1353 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:21,320 my EIN. 1354 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,260 The EIN is indicative of just solely, which 1355 00:41:24,260 --> 00:41:26,660 isn't an issue so much now, but before 1356 00:41:26,660 --> 00:41:28,980 where I had a job and that income 1357 00:41:28,980 --> 00:41:31,180 was filed under my social security number, and 1358 00:41:31,180 --> 00:41:32,720 then I had started my business, and I 1359 00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:33,980 really wanted a clear distinction. 1360 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,280 But thank you guys so much. 1361 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,220 Encourage others as they build business and feel 1362 00:41:38,220 --> 00:41:39,720 free to share information out online. 1363 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,700 What you know can definitely help others. 1364 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:42,260 Thank you. 92928

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