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MAN 1: For the first time in half a century,

there will be a public hearing on UFOs.

The House Intelligence are up to hear two senior Pentagon officials tomorrow,

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MAN 2: If Congress can't get answers on something this simple from the Pentagon,

how can we expect that Congress really knows what's going on with the Pentagon at all?

MAN 3: Federal lawmakers who have been briefed on the sightings say,

"We're dealing with something quite different this time."

And NASA Administrator Bill Nelson said it's something that the space agency

is very serious about.

MAN 4: Of course, there's another theory that this is adversary technology

from Russia or China, for example.

But, you know, the extraterrestrial hypothesis is out there, too.

MAN 5: So they're generals in the military, and sometimes they refer to the endgame

as far as the military strategy, obviously, this propulsion devices

such as a tic tac has some heavy propulsion.

How concerned are some of these guys in regard to this private corporation,

possibly having this power?

Well, it's come something in very meeting I've had since the 90s

is that when people begin to look into this, whether you're admiral or general,

what's going to happen is that once you realize that there is an organization

that have technologies that can do circles around the B-2 Stealth,

then they immediately feel outgunned, and they are.

Technologically, they absolutely are outgunned.

So the question then becomes, you have to have a different strategy.

Because you're not going to resolve this problem in a conventional,

confrontational way.

You're going to have to do things where you disclose the information.

You get the people on your side, you use the rule of law.

So the end game is that, unless there's enough pressure

put on these guys that they capitulate.

And they come clean. And we'll see.

I mean, it's hard to know how that will all play out.

On the other hand, they may hit the button

for a false flag or some other event.

This is what you don't know when you're dealing with people

who are sociopaths and crazy people

who have that much power.

I call it the Doctor Strange Love Syndrome.

You know, where they just get crazy.

NEWSREADER: Washington, D. C. may remain divided by partisan animosity of those things,

but something's apparently is to rise above politics

and considering the national security implications,

the House of Representatives voted unanimously

to create a secure government system

for reporting UFOs.

DR. GREER: People around the President,

you know, may say, "Look, this is an inevitable situation."

So, you know, we want to be on the right side of this and begin to cooperate openly,

but, you know, that remains to be seen.

I think that they're also intimidated by the power behind

some of these beyond black projects

that it's a frightening proposition.

And, unfortunately, that's a real problem because, as I mentioned,

intimidation is a big issue.

MAN: There's been some official

sort of channel being created here for these pilots

who were witnessing all sorts of things to be able to come forward,

discussing things without harming their own careers.

Obviously, a major issue.

One of my roles is to try to say, "Look, just stay the course.

This is an intimidation."

It's more of a mind trick.

But a lot of these folks, they are, you know,

they're going to be intimidated,

and then they're gonna fall silent.

I know that's happened to a number of Presidents

and the ones where it hasn't happened,

they were given just enough information

to make them develop policies that run to the favor of these covert programs.

I think that's what happened with Reagan, with SDI Star Wars.

It's quite likely, I believe, that's what happened with Trump

and Pence with the Space Force and some other things.

So. you know. Because remember, if you're the fox guarding the henhouse,

you can walk into the Oval Office

and present all kinds of frightening-looking stuff

that would be convincing to someone who has come into the Oval Office

as a peanut farmer like Carter,

or a real estate developer like Trump or whatever,

you know, fill in the blank.

Um, so they're very vulnerable.

This is one of the big problems with this kind of secrecy.

If there's corruption in the system, which there is,

then the President and his inner circle that he appoints and brings in,

are very vulnerable to either the information being partial, or false or completely withheld.

And fixing that is a major investigation that's going to require those,

like I said, subpoena power and the willing to go the distance.

Once people are identified and places are identified and say,

"Look, this is, you know, you are now going to be compelled

to disclose this information."

Now, even if that happens, then the question becomes

whether it's out of Capitol Hill or the White House,

how much of that will make it out to the United States public?

Yeah, I think one of the really big problems the public doesn't understand about this,

and I've been dealing with this since '93,

that we meet with a lot of these officials

who are not read into these projects and they find out it's true.

They are traumatized.

I mean, it's traumatic.

I think, for the public, it's like a conspiracy theory.

It's entertaining.

It's something to Google, it's something, you know, troll of the Internet.

But if you're actually on Capitol Hill or the White House

or the Pentagon or CIA or in a responsible position

and you find out that there is an entire universe,

a whole secret government program,

that's massive.

That you don't know about and you're not overseeing, even though you are required

to oversee it.

It's a shock, it's traumatic, and I have been very compassionate about that

and working with folks since the '90s, and more recently,

these guys who...

I mean, you know, they've been special forces,

and they've done all kinds of things all over the world,

and they are genuinely traumatized by it.

Because it is a sort of a mind-blowing situation.

And for that reason,

we know that when you start talking about the leaders

who are elected, the constitutionally-appointed, elected leaders

they're going to have to be brought up to speed in a graduated way.

Now, it could be a year, but it isn't going to be in one meeting.

You know, it might be in 20 briefings or something.

And so what I recommended is that they set up a set of

briefing modules to be put together,

that go over the whole course of the history of this,

but then all of the facilities and the operations,

but then also all the technologies, starting with the basic ones,

[CHUCKLES] how those things fly, to the more esoteric ones.

Compartmented operations underneath the Pentagon,

technology management office, for example, um,

some of the folks that I've been dealing with who literally oversee

all the agencies and all that black budget funding.

They literally, when I mentioned these facilities,

they've never heard of them.

They don't know where they are.

So I think that, you know, when you're talking about most of Washington,

they are just now beginning to ask any questions.

But, so, it's not like there's any great effort.

Now, when someone begins to make these inquiries, then they have surveillance,

they have Black Hawk helicopters over their house and all that kind of stuff.

But, that's just recently begun.

Over the years, though, whether it's a President or anyone else

who pushes too far into this...

I recently found out that a congressman I had briefed way back

named Congressman Christopher Cox of Orange County,

when I put the facilities list together for him

that listed all the contractors and all this,

he had two guys approach him and threaten him with death

and his family with death if he were to talk about this any further

or make any more inquiries.

And he was on the Science and Technology Committee

of the House of Representatives.

So that kind of stuff does happen.

Unfortunately, he didn't notify me of this.

So, you know, it happened and then he backed off.

And I think that's one of the real problems.

I mean, there i lethal force threatened.

There's all kinds of intimidation.

I've had people break into my home.

I have had people break into my condo here

and just move things around

to let them know we can get in here anytime we want.

And I think for a lot of people who are elected officials,

and they start running into this,

they don't realize what kind of buzz saw is out there.

You know, how serious these guys have been about keeping the secret.

So, you know, a couple of days ago,

I was on an encrypted messaging system

with a top-secret guy who was wanting to come forward.

And in real time, he was sending me video of Black Hawks that were circling his house

out in the middle of nowhere, way out in the upper Midwest.

So that really does happen.

But, you know, most of those enforcement issues,

you're not going to see it at the situation room

in the White House or a skiff up on Capitol Hill.

MAN: [ON RADIO] Eagle has landed.

REPORTER: Tonight, NASA's accepting a mission that so far

has proven harder than landing a man on the moon.

INTERVIEWER: What's your thoughts like now

NASA is getting into the game of UFO hunting?

The release from NASA was that they are going to allocate $100,000 to look into this.

Let me explain how...

$100,000 will get you two paper clips.

Maybe.

So, again, I don't think anything serious

is going to be done by NASA.

My understanding is they're doing things to check off a box.

But, there is an investigation that we can talk about

that is very effective and it's working

and that is really getting to the bottom of it,

it is not at NASA.

If you're seeing it in the media or on politico, or on the Internet.

those are all things that they are just wanting to check boxes

so that members of Congress

feel like they're doing something.

It's like, I grew up in the South,

they say, "Look busy, Jesus is coming".

There is this whole mindset of you just do busy work.

So the Pentagon office, this NASA initiative,

I would like to be proven wrong,

and certainly if those guys invited me in

to get actionable intelligence, detailed information

I'd absolutely do it, but we'll see.

I mean, you know, a broken clock is right twice a day,

it's possible that they will actually do something,

but they're not going to do anything with $100,000.

Which is why in their release it said they were going to allocate.

Is NASA being straight with us?

-I don't know... -Apparently, they're getting

into the UFO hunt right now, too, they say.

They are. They are. The American public turns it up.

Not only the Tim Burchetts of the world.

I'm already there.

I know we got to do something. We better find out.

I think we need to find out.

With this evidence coming in from NASA,

for the years of third phase alone, we've been keeping a close eye on them.

They're one of the most biggest archives of the UFO phenomenon that exist right now.

-BURCHETT: Right. -We could tell NASA, "Go back to this date,

go back to this ISS footage and let's start there".

And again, we have hundreds of videos from NASA themselves

that they refused to explain to the public what they captured.

How can we change the narrative of NASA

to be a little bit more of straight answers

instead of never a straight answer?

We've got to get more people than me

in Congress that are going to ask those tough questions.

You know, we're talking about NASA and what NASA hasn't done all these years

since the last time we were on the moon.

You know, they want to go into the UFO studies.

They have thousands of images that have been taken by the astronauts,

either at the International Space Station,

or on the shuttle,

or even going back to Germany and Apollo.

So, you know, for them to just get into it,

you know, say they're getting into it now,

why haven't they been investigating it since they were formed?

That's their job.

I think it's really exciting. It almost feels like opening a new book.

MAN: NASA's, announcement, coming on the heels of a new office set-up at the Pentagon

to investigate top secret encounters

between pilots and unidentified aerial phenomenon.

What you get is a double-speak, you never get a straight answer.

NASA reports to us. We're their employer.

They've lost credibility.

We're falling by the wayside.

And our federal government is failing us.

MAN: As for what they are...

So far, we've seen NASA say that there is no evidence

that this is extraterrestrial life.

But does that mean that it's not extraterrestrial life?

I'm a scientist.

And if somebody asked me, is this extraterrestrial life?

Frankly, at this moment in time, the simple answer is the right one,

which is, I don't know.

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The fact that this office just said that they're only going

to investigate UFOs that are not man-made.

Right? What that tells you is that

my message, your message,

and message of many other people that we know,

these tic tacs are actually man-made vehicles, devices.

That message has gotten back to them.

[CHUCKLES] It's gotten back to them, and so now they are

experiencing a lot of loss of traction.

MAN: And is this one of the phenomena that we can't explain?

I do not have an explanation for what this specific object is.

When I say we can't explain,

I mean exactly as you described there,

that there is a lot of information,

like the video that we showed, in which there's simply too little data

to create a reasonable explanation.

When I say unexplained, I mean everything from too little data

to simply the data that we have doesn't point us towards an explanation.

What I call Operation Fail Safe are all of these tic tacs,

all of these UAPs sometimes called UATs.

'T' is for threat, all right?

They're losing a lot of traction.

And the momentum that they had,

you know, I don't know, like six months ago

when this was all going to come out in congressional committee hearings,

and records and the NIDs,

was the National Intelligence Director

was going to answer a lot of questions, and release a lot of information.

All this stuff added up to basically nothing.

Added up to nothing.

And now they're realizing it.

So now they're trying to follow...

They're going to follow the same narrative

and the narrative is going to be,

"Hey, we have nothing to do with man-made UAPs.

We're not looking into that at all.

That's not even a factor in stuff we're doing."

And they're saying it expressly,

but in an indirect way,

all of these things that we're studying, that we're looking at,

they're all extraterrestrial.

They're all interdimensional also.

They're genuine alien vehicles, let's say.

They're not man-made, no matter what.

And I don't think that's really going to...

that's not really going to help them too much

in the long run,

because there've been so many people

that have been looking at these videos, been looking at these things,

we see no clues that lead us to the conclusion

that this is definitely extraterrestrial.

It looks man-made. It just does.

And that's going to be haunting them now.

Moving forward, from here forward.

And what they say gives it away. Gives it away.

They are very concerned about that.

Through our own ability to capture some of these UFO craft,

I believe that the U.S. Military

and maybe even other militaries and other countries

have captured a few of these and have been reverse-engineering UFOs

for quite some time.

I believe that the actual incident that happened in Roswell

was a UFO that was brought down by a scalar weapon.

We actually brought the UFO craft down.

They disoriented its control system and brought it down.

And so by doing this, we were able to capture that device and take it

to a top secret military base,

and start to try to figure out how to reverse-engineer it.

There have been people who have come out talking about the fact

that Velcro, fiber optics, and microchips all came from the reverse-engineering

from 1947 of the Roswell Craft.

I've talked to people that have handled material, that have stated that it is

something different.

That they can break it down pretty much into what it was.

But how it was layered and how it was attached,

without, you know, blending too much is still a mystery.

-And... -Is this crash retrieval? Is this crash retrieval?

I thought it was. They thought it was.

But there again,

you have to be real careful with that stuff because,

you know, you spend a million dollars chasing something and analyzing it,

and it's something that's been created in a lab.

And they're just trying to chase us down another long path.

When it comes to material that we have, e have no material.

We have detected no emanations within the UAP task force that is...

that would suggest it's anything non-terrestrial in origin.

So when I say unexplained,

I mean everything from too little data

to simply the data that we have doesn't point us towards an explanation.

But we'll go wherever the data takes us.

Again, we make no assumptions about what this is or isn't.

We are committed to understanding these,

and so we'll go wherever that data takes us.

Are we going to have more UFO Congress hearings coming up in the future here?

I doubt it.

[CHUCKLES]

You know, is there anything else that stood out to you?

Yes. I mean, at 51 minutes, you have Scott Bray, ONI, Office Naval Intelligence, say,

"When it comes to material that we have,

nothing would suggest non-terrestrial origin."

A number of these UAPs, you said, "We can't explain."

Again, in the service of sort of reducing speculation

and conspiracy theories, "We can't explain,"

can range from a visual observation that was distant on a foggy night,

we don't know what it is,

to we found an organic material that we can't identify, right?

Those are radically different worlds.

So, when you say we can't explain,

give the public a little bit better sense

of where on that spectrum of we can't explain we are.

Are we holding materials, organic or inorganic, that we don't know about?

Are we, you know, picking up emanations

that are something other than light or infrared

that could be deemed to be communications?

Give us a sense for what you mean when you say we can't explain.

Sure, when I say we can't explain,

I mean exactly as you described there,

that there is a lot of information,

like the video that we showed,

in which there's simply too little data.

BILLY: Well, recently, there were some congressional hearings

where they actually had active military basically testifying before Congress

that they had encounters with UFOs and UAPs.

They're call 'em UAPs now.

[CHUCKLES] And what's interesting is they even had 11 encounters

where they almost had an impact with these things, it almost crashed into them.

They've been caught on radar, they've been heavily tracked.

And, admittedly, by the Pentagon,

they are able to make maneuvers that we cannot even conceive of doing right now

with our current technology.

And so the reason why all the redaction is there

is because they don't want the public to know truly

how sophisticated these things really are,

and also to add a little tiny bit of questioning

as to whether they are ours or if they are UFOs.

In other words, they're claiming that these things exist,

but at the same time,

they're not officially really stating,

"Yes, these are alien craft from another world."

What they want to do is keep that question mark there.

By keeping the question mark,

they keep control of the narrative, and by controlling the narrative,

they control the money from the general population.

So, right now, we have the Space Force, which now is going to be allowed

to extract trillions of dollars into projects that they can now claim are to protect Earth

from these unknown, these UAPs.

And so it really is another driving force of creating revenue for the military,

because right now there's no more wars on the planet. There's nobody else to fight.

We brought "democracy to everybody,

and now we've turned everything into dust.

And now the only way we can make more money in military is to take the war to space.

It's the crash retrievals that are the Rosetta Stone

for solving the UFO cover-up

or the cosmic Watergate, as it's called.

Because it's the crash retrievals

that have all the evidence we need.

The bodies, the debris, the craft, the autopsies, the reports,

the eight-by-ten glossy black and whites, the gun camera footage.

It's all wrapped around the crash retrieval.

So if we can, as a group of ufologists,

get access to that debris,

the bodies, the craft, then we can change the world,

but it has to be handed over to the scientific community

as a united coalition so that they can third-party,

independently verify what we're looking at here.

Because, we could be looking at hoaxes,

we could be looking at red herrings off to the side.

These guys are very good at keeping secrets.

So we need a third-party independent source to verify this,

and then we can come up with.

Yeah. Well, you know, one of the most ridiculous parts of this NASA

getting into the UFO business.

Yeah. They made the statement that they are not going to...

Everything to do with man-made UFOs.

How in the heck do you know if it's man-made

unless you investigate it? Unless you have some good imagery?

So the fact that we don't have anything sharp,

we don't everything definitive,

of what, A UFO or a UAP?

It's a freaking flying saucer.

And for NASA to have all this stuff in their files already,

it makes no sense.

It's really an insult to those of us that have been digging.

Those of us, you know, who have spent

time and energy trying to track this stuff down,

and we're just getting nothing but double-talk from NASA.

They're not doing their job.

They're not producing products that we bought and paid for.

Let me ask you this.

This is kind of a new news that is been developing the language in Washington.

They have their new UFO office that they're setting up.

I guess it got, I don't know, some kind of budget.

It's pretty small, but they've made a statement

saying that they're not going to investigate man-made objects,

the man-made UFOs.

What does this tell you in regards to

the possibility that humans ourselves,

a private corporation, have cracked the code in propulsion,

and it just so happens that you may capture these on your instruments?

But what if these UFOs could be man-made

and now they're just kind of rolling that out,

that they don't want to investigate anything

that's man-made?

But, again, what if there is something that is out there, such as a tic tac,

that is man-made and you so happened to capture that on your instruments,

would you report that to the public?

No. I mean, if it looks like it's human-made, I'd be glad

to deliver it to Washington D.C. without analyzing it.

It is not of interest to me.

NASA or Galileo Project,

if they were to capture something in our solar system, like a craft approaching Earth,

would they be able to get that out to the public right away,

or would national security kick in?

Well, it depends on who's funding them and what kind of contract they have.

Again, I think it's going to have to be somebody who's going to have to leak it.

Somebody's gonna have to leak it.

-And just put it out... -And risk prosecution.

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DR. GREER: So, what everyone needs to know

is that there is now an official mechanism

for whistleblowers

and people who are under nondisclosure agreements,

to come forward.

And that law makes a pathway for people to come forward.

Now, the problem is, you know, politico and a lot of news organizations

have had stories about that.

But those folks, who are they going to contact?

So what I am saying...

I'm making an appeal here.

They should contact me at our website,

siriusdisclosure.com. S-I-R-I-U-S disclosure.com

There's a contact box just for witnesses,

military whistleblowers, and that will get passed on to me.

And then I can bring those people to the correct folks here in Washington

who are in charge of this investigation.

Because, most people would try to contact the Pentagon office.

That's not where anything is happening.

All right? Um...

So, the folks I'm working with are involved with intelligence and military

and those committees,

National Security Council, etc.

And they are the ones who actually are going the distance

and drilling the deepest on this.

And in the last year, since I've been providing

really specific intelligence

and introducing them to certain key people,

they've actually gotten dozens of people to come forward,

and there is actually a whistleblower suit proceeding, but it's been...

It is very classified, at this point.

So that's really big news.

Because, in my 32 years of working on this issue,

you know, having met with all kinds of folks

over the years,

it's only in the last six, eight months, maybe a year,

that this, what I just said, has been even a possibility.

No one has ever taken it this far before.

And the reason it happened is that there is a more clandestine group

that are on the right side of disclosing this,

that are doing it under the authority of the bill that was passed,

And, in fact, a couple of them actually helped write that bill.

So I think this is a really exciting development.

It's very good news.

Now... a footnote.

You know, the U.S. Government moves at the speed of molasses in winter,

And, you know, I caution people that it's a process

I think it's going to be a year or two,

but, you know, and the fact that I've been doing this for 32 years,

that's the speed of light.

You know, because, frankly, before right now,

when I've provided materials to the President

or to other members of the Congress...

I mean, back in the '90s and early 2000s, I briefed members

of the Senate Intelligence Committee

and chairmen of committees in the House,

no one wanted to pursue this.

And there wasn't a mechanism for them to,

that was a legal mechanism.

You know, because if they made an inquire

they'd be saying, you know, "It's none of your business.

You don't have a clearance."

Well, now there is a mechanism where it's actually mandated by law

that the Director of National Intelligence

and the government provide material

to these oversight committees of the Congress.

That's very different.

That's a whole new ball game, so that's really exciting.

And I think that's a door that is open now.

I don't predict how long that door will be open.

It could close like that.

I mean, so we want to move through that door

with as much information, whistleblowers, evidence.

The other thing is that our group separately,

the Disclosure Project in 1997 and '98,

declared these illegally-run classified projects,

a criminal organization.

And we stated that anybody who has information,

documents, materials, are free to speak.

To us and to the public.

That was a letter that is called Unless Otherwise Directed Letter.

UNOD.

And my military advisers said, "Look, this is how you have to do this."

So the way it's worded is: unless directed otherwise,

this is our assessment.

These projects are being run illegally.

Therefore, we can disclose any document, classified or not,

any testimony or material.

You know, mat was of parts,

um, without penalty of the law.

And from 1998, which I gave them a 60-day period to respond,

to now, no one has ever contradicted that assessment.

And in fact, the people now that I have been meeting with know

that what I said about that is 100% true.

That the projects that are being operating,

dealing with the UFO, UAP issue,

all that has been run

completely illegally without oversight.

And where the thuggery of threatening even officials,

as I mentioned, a member of Congress that I briefed,

being threatened with he and his family being killed.

So, that is the sort of thing that,

you now crossed the line.

You're outside the umbrella of the Constitution and the rule of law.

Therefore, they're playing naked, and that's what we've been saying.

But, what I said in '97 and '98,

which was the foundation of this first group of military whistleblowers

to come forward in 2001

with the Disclosure Project here in D.C.,

at the National Press Club.

That's now gotten to the point where it's enshrined in the law.

And so that's a really big development.

Because, before, it was a civilian

with no standing, making this statement.

And for a lot of military guys, they say,

"Well, that's probably legally true,

because we ran it past our constitutional attorneys.

But I'm still afraid."

Well, now I can say, now there's people to give you protection

and a mechanism.

So if we are ever going to get this resolved, here's the window.

Let's move through it.

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JAMES: You know, the commander of NORAD,

which is the North American Air Defense Command,

it's jointly managed by both Canadian and U.S. forces.

He said that, you know, there are systems

which are designed to thwart a Soviet attack or a Russian attack,

or now, a Chinese attack on our mainland.

So they haven't picked up anything

they consider extraterrestrial.

How do you know it's not an alien craft?

How do you know it's not something that the Lockheed Skunk Works created

or the Boeing McDonnell Douglas Phantom Works?

We don't know.

Recently, the commander of NORAD actually stated that they have no evidence of UFOs or aliens.

And he was kind of really being sarcastic.

They have a lot of evidence of you UFOs and aliens,

because information has been being released

and declassified for decades,

including the new...documents.

What he really is saying is, we have information about UAPs and UFOs,

but we don't want to share it with you,

and we're not going to actually openly claim

that these are actual alien craft or spacecraft that are not created by us,

because if we do that, and we're the ones in control

of protecting airspace over the world,

then we look like we're inadequate and we can't do our jobs.

So, that's why they do this.

They do this to give the citizens of the world

a false sense of protection or security

that they do have control and they can protect us,

when in actuality,

they cannot control these beings, whatsoever.

There is a little bit of a discrepancy here.

Because, how can you declassify something that you don't have access to?

So, if we go to the Senate and Armed Services Committee in Washington, D. C.

and we asked them to pull the files,

if they don't have access to it,

or if they're not read into the program, we're never going to get it.

So, that's this delicate line

that's being kind of crossed here.

Somehow, we need to get access to these programs,

but still keeping under the umbrella of national security.

And so, you can see the way this government is trying to play this.

They're trying to keep the secrets on one end,

but then on the other end,

we've got these congressional hearings

that are just...

They're almost throwaways.

They're really not doing anything.

They're not moving this field any further.

It's also been reported that there have been UAP observed

and interacting with

and flying over sensitive military facilities. Particular--

And not just ranges, but some facilities housing our strategic nuclear forces.

One such incident allegedly occurred

at Malmstrom Air Force Base,

in which ten of our nuclear ICBMs were rendered inoperable.

At the same time, a glowing red orb was observed overhead.

I'm not commenting on the accuracy of this, I'm simply

asking you whether you're aware of it

and whether you have any comment on the accuracy of that report.

MAN: Let me pass that to Mr. Bray,

he's been looking at UAPs the last three years.

That data is not within the holdings of the UAPs task force.

I know that our government

and the military hasn't been sitting on their hands on this situation,

because if it's a threat to national security,

if these unknowns can fly

over a military strategic missile facilities

like Francis E. Warren or Minot Air Force Base,

and, you know, they control,

virtually all of the Minuteman IIIs

that are in the upper-Midwest.

For them not to get excited

or have some of the best equipment, monitoring equipment, going

when these things have been shutting down

ballistic missile sites.

They're not interconnected.

That's, you know, they're separated,

because that's their protection.

And some craft, this number of years ago,

literally shut down over half of the silos in the missile complex.

Okay, but are you aware of the report?

That the data exists somewhere?

I have, uh, heard stories. I have not seen the official data on that.

So you just seen informal stories?

No official assessment that you've done or exists within DOD that you're aware of

regarding the Malmstrom incident?

All I can this is,

you know, what's within my cognizance,

the UAP task force, and we have not looked at that incident.

When he was saying that he had absolutely no knowledge

of unknown alien craft

overflying our military installations.

and affecting our nuclear triad,

the man should have been fired right there.

I mean, that's... that's gross incompetence.

If they're there representing the federal government

and we're going to take our best and brightest and we're going to investigate

unknown aerial phenomenon, also called UFOs,

and you have someone who has absolutely no idea

of some of the instances that is general public,

that I know about.

You know, people who just...

who aren't military historians or whatever have read about it.

It's been on the front pages.

It's been on the news.

Well, that's a pretty high-profile incident.

I don't claim to be an expert on this,

but that's out there in the ether.

You're the guys investigating it.

I mean, who else is doing it?

If something was officially brought to our attention, we would look at it.

There are many things that are out there in the ether

that aren't officially brought to our attention.

GALLAGHER: How would it have to be officially brought to...

I am bringing it to your attention.

This is pretty official.

So we go back and take a look at it,

but generally there is some

authoritative figure that says there is an incident that occurred.

We'd like you to look at this.

But in terms of just tracking what may be in the media,

that says that something occurred at this time at this place,

there's probably a lot of leads that we'd have to follow-up on.

I don't think we have resource to do that right now.

Well, I don't claim to be an authoritative figure,

but for what it's worth, I would like you to look into it.

If for another reason you could dismiss it

and say this is not worth wasting resources on.

I was listening to these witnesses.

I'm saying, "My gosh, if I was that stupid..."

That's the only word I could... That or incompetent.

I'm up there in front of the world talking about a subject matter

that everybody has an interest in, even if it's remote interest.

You know, when you say, "Hey, there's flying saucers out there."

"There's things that go bump at night."

Everybody sort of goes, "Oh, really?"

So, it's not something that it's a fly-by-night,

it's not something that doesn't spark anybody's interest,

but they have two people up there representing our government,

which are supposed to be the best and the brightest,

coming across as an absolute fool.

And they were coming across

like a couple of Jehovah Witnesses have come up

to your door and they weren't prepared to speak about the Almighty.

I mean, it was a joke.

It was a joke. It was a waste of time.

[DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING]

MAN: These documents include reports on the biological effects

of UFO sightings on humans,

something we haven't heard before.

The report describes 42 cases where humans sustained injuries

after alleged encounters "anomalous vehicles".

In some of the cases, humans, the Pentagon says, showed burn injuries

or other conditions related to electromagnetic radiation.

INTERVIEWER: What do you make of this...

these UAP encounters that caused brain trauma when you get in close proximity to it?

From Garry Nolan? Is this proper language?

Well, look, you know, a couple months ago,

there was a 1500-page release from the Department of Defense

of alleged contact cases with UFOs that resulted in all kinds of injuries.

And those cases were put together by a senior member of the covert programs

that have been staging fake events, false events,

named Dr. Kit Green.

He as fellow physician in Ohio, and we know that it was stated

that he had facilitated putting that together.

Where he talked about people had brain injuries

and burns and unwanted pregnancies.

Well, of course, this is now being, as I predicted.

As we move forward with actual disclosure,

secret government programs through their lackeys,

their operatives, are going to create a narrative.

MAN: Garry Nolan is definitely at the top of that list.

He's a Stanford professor.

Stanford PhD. He's an immunologist.

And he has, over the last decade or two,

spent a lot of time studying the harmful effects

that apparent encounters with UFOs have on the human brain.

Now, remember, every one of those cases they're presenting

were covert human projects

targeting civilians with these sort of injuries.

But this report comes from a shadowy Pentagon department

that was shut down in 2012.

And the ailments listed after these experiences,

as you say, the most common experience, by the way,

is abduction, radiation burns, paralysis,

brain damage, even sexual encounters.

Don't take my word for it.

Dr. Jacques Vallee, who has published a book in 1992,

stated point blank,

that he had a document from 1985,

a CIA official document,

explaining how they were "abducting"

people in South America,

making it look like an "alien encounter"

for its, and I'm quoting, psychological warfare value.

So what people have to understand is this is a 60, 70-year

sort of brainwashing plan.

So you get people like Nolan and others who appear in the media.

Those doors open for them, because they're going to tell the public

the false information that the secret keepers

want people to believe. Well, to what end?

It's unmistakable.

You have to say, okay, well, what did that?

I can conjecture or hypothesize about, you know,

is it the Russians?

Is it UFOs, or whatever?

But, the fact is, there is data that says

something is happening, and so we need to study it.

And that's what a scientist should do.

MAN: Of course, absolutely.

So, for some context, who were these people

who'd been injured?

Dr. Garry Nolan has recently come out and stated that people have had adverse effects

to UFOs or being in a location where UFOs recently were located.

Now, these effects seem to have affected their mind,

their skin, and some type of illness or sickness had fallen over them.

Kind of like radiation sickness or radiation poisoning.

When you look at this other guide that exists called

the Firefighters Disaster Guide, which is distributed

to all firefighters in the United States,

they actually have a section in this guide...

You can get this on Amazon.

...it talked about how to deal with disasters

dealing with UFOs,

and what some of the actual side effects are

[CHUCKLES] of coming in contact with UFOs.

They teach this to firefighters.

They say that people get sick, they get ill,

they have mental problems.

So all of a sudden, we see what Dr. Garry Nolan is talking about

isn't really a conspiracy, it's something that the firefighters in America,

which require to save lives, actually think really exists.

Could it be another program by the United States military,

where they test different types of technologies on their own citizens?

We know that they've done this over many, many decades,

we know that they tested chemicals and all different types of hallucinogenics

on their own military officers without even telling them.

They've actually even given soldiers different types of STDs and diseases to see how

they would play out.

You know, so this is something that we know is factual and actually happens.

Could there be another program where they are actually

impregnating women through some type of alternative technology?

We just don't know. All we can do is hypothesize.

All we can do is maybe speculate.

But there seems to be something strange going on

and I believe that the government knows exactly what it is.

They want to create, as Wernher von Braun stated,

an "alien threat" that doesn't exist

for the warmongers and the war profiteers

and the military industrial complex. Is very simple.

So this has been put in place since the '50s.

All you have to do is pull the CIA director Smith's memo

from 1953 and we have it.

Where he explains the psychological warfare value of the UFO subject.

So now that was almost 70 years ago, 69 years ago.

So, I think that this is something the public and the media

have to get educated on.

They're not going to get it through the UFO research community

or from the media, because most people have not done their homework

To find out what the counterintelligence operations are.

And by that I mean, the people who are embedded out there

concocting all kinds of frightening stuff

for its psychological warfare value, to create fear.

Well, I think there has been a realization

that this is a serious defense and national security issue,

and I think part of that has come from within Congress.

People like Marco Rubio, for example, have spoken out quite strongly on this.

But, the other thing is, we just got a lot more evidence

than was previously the case.

We always knew pilots saw these things.

Because if you create fear, you can control people.

Demagogues have done this forever.

And if you're going to have another enemy

bigger than another power like China or Russia,

and you want to unite the world around a military effort,

which is their agenda, long-term,

you have to create something bigger and badder

than the Russian bear or the Chinese panda or what have you.

This is what's been planned.

It's a 70-year plan, and we know it.

Carol Rosin and Wernher von Braun had seen that defense plan,

and it specifically outlines exactly what we're seeing now.

I would like to make the prediction right now, I absolutely believe this

with every fiber of my being, that within the next couple of months to 90 days,

there's going to be no more of these near-misses.

Near-misses are already considered a hostile action

in a military kind of milieu, it already is.

But what we are going to have is we're going to have

direct military action from these UAPs,

these tic tacs, which are of all shapes and sizes, by the way,

and we will have a huge hostile action

against an entire battleship or many airliners as well.

Airliners. And we're going to see huge consequences from that,

because they have to do it at this point,

because people are losing interest in the UAP situation.

They are seeing a fraud artist like Elizondo

and others that work with him as well.

And people are just not impressed that much by these tic tacs

and this 1950s videos that they're showing.

People just don't care.

So, they have to go into the desperate

if they want to keep this alive, and they have to,

because this is Operation Fail Safe,

it's going to be their final, final position of the cabal.

When everything else fails and they got nothing else,

they're going to have to go to fake alien invasion.

That's what we are facing, and that's what we're looking at,

and that is something that will absolutely happen.

What they are doing,

what the secret illegal, unconstitutional government is doing,

is getting both witting, knowing people who know

they're putting out false information

and a lot of unwitting people, naive people,

who will just take the bait.

And so most of the media does not have any real depth of research on the issue.

So, if they get something that gets released from the Pentagon,

like these 1500 pages of terrifying accounts,

they're not saying, "Who is doing this?"

What we know and have known since the early '90s,

and I've had it confirmed to me by dozens of operatives inside the system,

that these are actually people who are humans, doing these things

for their sort of brainwashing value.

Because, if you don't have another big enemy,

as one of my military advisers said back in the '90s,

God help us, if peace were to break out, we'd all be out of business.

So, you know, there is this sort of manipulative aspect to this, and that's what that's about.

So if you just keep that in mind when all these things are rolled out,

you're going to go, well,

[CLEARS THROAT] you know, is it real or is it false?

Obviously, I would say 90-plus percent

of everything that's going to come out is false,

and that's why people have to be very skeptical

and very thorough in their research.

Dr. Greer had talked about, and he wrote a white paper that discusses this.

If you've got a classified program, you've got a U-sat program,

unacknowledged special access program.

So from the very get go,

if this is contrary to the Constitution at the very beginning,

then the entire program goes against the law.

So, they're not bound to their national security deals,

because it's extra-constitutional from the very get go.

So, you can see the way Greer has played this.

It's very masterful. It's very genius.

So, not necessarily are all these people under this umbrella of secrecy.

If the entire program is extra-constitutional from the very beginning,

and so it's a very good play that we can capitalize on,

and it might be a wedge to get in there

so that some of these programs can be declassified.

-[INTERVIEWER SPEAKING] -Hmm.

Programs associated with the analysis of retrieve debris in 1952.

We have a very interesting source.

She passed away now, but she was present at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base,

where over 1,000, and I'm going to repeat, 1,000 artifacts

from multiple UFO crash retrievals

were, number one, photograph, bagged, tagged and catalogued,

and it's sitting in a warehouse at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base right now.

So, they cannot claim that they don't have physical evidence.

They've got the evidence.

It's just they don't have access to it

or the people below them are not read into the program.

DR. GREER: Remember, there are very, very advanced material sciences

and technologies from inhuman covert programs

that have been reverse-engineered.

So, whether it's a nano molecular material that's human

or something of extraterrestrial origin,

you really have to know what you're looking for.

I don't know who's possessing that material.

Um, I don't possess it.

I would know what to look for.

But, you know, it'd be impossible to know

without the provenance of the material.

But, then also, you know, getting down to the nano molecular level

of how it was made.

-You want to go right... -MAN: Right there, yeah?

INTERVIEWER: So, what about these politicians?

You know, there is a couple coming forward.

Is that positive thing that this...?

Yes, there are quite a few politicians.

I mean, this is how these bills were passed and the Congress coming forward,

you know, who are very interested in the issue,

and over the years I've met with many of them.

At a certain point, it creates, you know,

a pressure to look into this, that there's got to be something to it.

That doesn't mean that they have been briefed on what's actually going on,

because it takes a very long time to get to the bottom of this very deep hole,

black hole that they've created.

So, you know, when you're dealing with an illegally-run black project,

you know, you're dealing with people

that I've worked with for years who have clearances, you know, top secret black projects,

unacknowledged special access projects and they don't have access.

As you know, and as Dr. Greer has talked about,

the United States government does not build anything.

They source it out to contractors.

So, a lot of these times, these programs, whatever they build,

whatever they saw, whatever they reverse-engineered is outsourced

and it is proprietary.

So you can't throw a FOIA request at something that's proprietary,

because it is contractor base, so you can you can write

all the FOIA requests you want.

If it's a proprietary contractor program,

they won't release it.

And so, that's one thing we're up against.

The other thing we're up against is it doesn't matter what your rank is in the House

and the Senate.

Whatever you're in the Washington Beltway there,

if you're not cleared and read into these programs, you are not going to get access to it.

So when we have these congressional hearings

that we've been recently seeing, and they don't have

access to these to these programs.

So how are they going to filter that down to the general public?

They don't even have access to the program,

so it's going to take

a monumental crusade to...

I think we have to go beyond Washington D.C.

We have to go to the scientists, and we have to go to the witnesses

and engineers who worked on these programs and work it that way.

Well, you know, remember, the Pentagon office

is at this stage for a storefront,

like Project BLUE BOOK was in the '60s.

It's a very small operation.

The people in there have not been read in.

Um, they've probably been told what to say.

That's not where the real investigation is happening.

That's a different discussion.

But, they are there because it was mandated by law

that they be there.

And, you know,

of this statement that we're not going to investigate any of the man-made objects,

well, you've just eliminated 80 to 90 percent of all UFO sightings.

Now, a lot of our pilots, navy, jet and Air Force pilots,

what have you, who had these encounters,

because these objects simply go so much faster

and they maneuver at right angles in a way that no conventional aircraft can,

they all assume it's from outer space.

They are not read into

what Ben Rich of the Lockheed Skunk Works told us,

and the vast majority of these UAP, UFO objects

are, in fact, ours.

They're man-made, and they're not Chinese or Russian.

They're ours, American.

So I think this is sort of a big...

They're hoodwinking the Congress,

and they're actually deliberately

pulling their punch on disclosing the biggest part of the secret.

Now, I will say,

ten, 20 percent of things that have been seen are of extraterrestrial origin.

It's a minority.

The majority are actually ours,

but that's a bigger secret than the "alien" part.

Why? Because, and here is the linchpin of the secrecy,

to disclose to the public that those are ours

would also admit that we already have

the energy and propulsion systems

to replace all the oil and gas and coal

and nuclear power and wind and solar on the planet.

Why? The sensors.

The Pentagon has admitted, their infrared sensors of the tic tac

and these other objects.

There's no heat source,

there's no jets,

there's no rockets,

there's no nuclear device on-board creating energy,

because that would be a huge, as you know,

nuclear fission or fusion creates an enormous amount of heat.

Nothing. Well, how are they moving?

Well, they're using what's called...

They're using electromagnetic field propulsion.

Which are very high-voltage systems.

We understand how they work,

but for these covert programs

that have been run illegally and without oversight,

to admit that,

for any part of the U.S. Government to admit that,

it'd be a scandal 1,000 times bigger than Watergate

or Iran Contra

or anything you can think of.

Because of what it would mean is,

all the deaths from our space program and shuttles

and Apollo missions, like my uncle worked on,

and all of the pollution and all the poverty in the world

and all of the environmental degradation has been unnecessary

since 1954.

So for the past 68 years,

we have not needed rockets, jets,

gas engines, or any of it.

Now, that statement is, I know,

some people say, an outrageous statement.

But, it can be proven.

I mean, there's plenty of documentation

of even aerospace journals back in the early '50s

before they mastered "gravity control"

talk about this.

So, the reason this office has probably been told, I mean...

They're sort of just mouthpieces saying what they're told to say

by someone,

that we are not going to look into the things that are made by humans.

It's because the ones that are human are most of them.

So then they don't look into them.

And number two, to disclose their existence

would be the pull the curtain back

on the crown jewel of the secrecy.

The reason for the secrecy.

Because it's all about macroeconomic and geopolitical control.

And if you bring out technologies that allows every home, office,

manufacturing plant, village in Africa,

to have its own energy source

without a transmission line and burning expensive fuel,

oil, gas, coal,

you've just changed the whole geopolitical macroeconomic system.

The power equilibrium of the world is gonna shift

away from a handful of global oligarchs,

to we, the people.

[CHUCKLES]

I view this coming out properly as a sort of the next American Revolution.

Bloodless, we hope, that has to happen.

It is a revolution. It's a revolution in thought,

it's a revolution in energy, technology, science, energy propulsion,

and, most importantly, how society would be structured.

Because, the evolution of fascism

was actually powerful industrial private interests

colluding with and controlling government and using government.

That's the root of fascism.

But, that's what this is.

What Eisenhower called the military industrial complex.

He was using a different term for the old 1900s, early 20th century fascism.

So the Antifa people and the anti-fascist people

need to understand what fascism actually is.

And that's what's going on here.

Because that's... those interests,

financial, corporate, what have you,

they're the tail wagging the dog of the U.S. Government.

And, like I said, 99-plus percent of the U.S. Government,

even the people I've worked with

who managed the black budget,

and oversee the three-letter agencies,

NSA, NRO, CIA,

they're been denied access to these projects.

And, yet, here we have all the evidence and proof for it.

So, I think this is a constitutional crisis so that we need the renewal

of the rule of law and the Constitution.

It's a civilizational crisis because of what's happened to the biosphere.

But, it's also a humanitarian crisis.

Three billion, with a 'B', people.

Three billion people don't have any way to cook their food.

They don't have electricity or gas.

In 2020. 2022.

This came out in The Economist last year.

Well, I think that in that situation,

what a huge humanitarian crisis when all that poverty

as well as the damage to the environment, could have been fixed before I was born.

You know, I was born in 1955.

We mastered gravity control and these energy systems

in October of 1954.

How do I know this?

The top scientist at the Naval Research Labs,

Richard Fauch, was in "the vault"

not far from here,

and saw the document that stated that

and had the proof of it.

Now, he didn't take it out,

of course, you're not allowed to,

but very reliable person.

I mean, he was the senior scientist at

the largest Department of Defense lab in the world

here in Washington, and they were research lab.

And routinely had briefings with the Vice President and admirals

and generals and stuff all the time, so he was very high clearance.

So, I think that this is a real crisis.

And everyone thinks the crisis is coming from outer space.

Here is the technique.

You set up a diversion.

"You look out here.

There's a threat from outer space."

Meanwhile, what it really is, these old curmudgeons

and these elite global money people

are like The Wizard of Oz

behind the curtain, pulling all the levers.

And just creating this whole insane narrative,

and they're very good at doing this.

They're very good at doing this.

So, I think this is why the public has to be very questioning

the reason disclosure...

When I say disclosure, I coined the term

in the '90s and early 2000s,

as the father of disclosure movement.

It's been hijacked by people who call any false revelation,

disclosure.

So there is 100 disclosure efforts out there now.

And I say what most of them are just putting out,

there is an echo chamber of parroting

the narrative in the script being written

by these black projects,

these illegal black projects.

So I'm a big skeptic. I always have been.

I mean, if you take 99 percent of what's presented on this subject

that you go to any conference or Internet search or what have you,

I go, "That's false. That's false. That's false. That's false."

And can be provably so. But no one's listening.

Because it's more exciting to get all, you know,

worked up about a threat from outer space.

It makes for excitement. The juices get flowing.

Because humans love to have someone to hate, right?

We've had some of the pilots and the intelligence people talking about them.

And now we learn that this is an ongoing situation and it's not just UFOs.

There's frankly, they've been looking at other things which sound like

they come straight out of an X-Files script.

And the demagogues running these information warfare programs

and psychological warfare programs,

they know human nature.

They know how they can trigger people into fear,

but also into sort of, let's unite people around an enemy.

Short of a couple of little green men landing on the South Lawn

of the North Lawn of the White House

and saying hi to the press corps there,

or landing at the next Super Bowl

and dropping in,

what is the bridge between these videos.

And we know that whatever this thing is, it is not human.

They want a new enemy.

They've been wanting to build up a new enemy.

The Pentagon office.

A lot of the folks I know in this city

absolutely realize that that office is sort of a window dressing

to comply with the congressional bill that was passed

mandating that the director of national intelligence and the Pentagon

report to the Congress this issue.

But, a true investigation absolutely is not writ large.

I'm on the record here, and I'm in a position to say this authoritatively.

It's going to happen from that office.

[SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING]

I think what's going to have to happen with UFO,

we're going to have somebody on the inside who is going to have to leak it.

Is going to have to leak some stuff.

-Photographs... -Would that be in danger with breaking NDAs?

-Yeah, absolutely. -They're getting... It's illegal.

They risk going to jail.

But, what if they're revealing is an illegal operation?

Therefore, it'd be covering something that's illegal.

So, there wouldn't be any...

You're trust the crooks to give you a fair trial?

If you're a whistleblower, I don't know if there's a benefit to come forward,

unless you're thinking big picture here, because they had to sign

multiple nondisclosure agreements,

so they are still bound under all that.

But, again, if we go back to this extra-constitutional concept,

if it was a rogue concept from the very beginning

and went against the Constitution,

then they are technically not under the umbrella of that law.

And so, that's kind of the thing that we are fighting here.

I don't think the whistleblowers are going to come forward

until they feel completely safe to do so.

So, it will have to come down from the very top

that all of those rulings and restrictions have been completely rescinded.

Then we might have an influx of more whistleblowers.

[INTERVIEWER SPEAKING]

I don't think any whistleblowers would be compensated,

but I'm also sure that a lot of them are dying to tell their story.

Because the clock is ticking, and as Stanton Friedman

had talked about so many times,

we are racing the undertaker

and at this time, at this late in the game,

really, the undertaker has won.

Because this is 60, 70...

We are now at the 75th anniversary of Roswell.

And how far are we in ufology?

I mean, we've made some progress,

but we still don't have access to the bodies,

we still don't have access to the debris,

we still don't have access to the gun camera footage,

which we know they have and it's a fact.

So, what do we need to do?

We have got to get to this evidence.

We can't have any more CE1s anymore.

That's really completely useless.

We need to get to the physical evidence and then we'll be moving forward.

Just a couple weeks ago,

I am directly knowledgeable about the fact

that our Air Force sometimes engages kinetically,

which means fires upon what we know to be UFOs.

Some of these people have stated that they

have regular encounters with these crafts.

Regular encounters.

Are we engaging them with the firepower?

Are we shooting at them?

No, we're not.

Corbell was saying that

we actually have been firing upon these UAPs

as of a month or so ago, as of a while ago,

and that we've been engaging them

in that military aggressive stance.

And Congressman Tim actually said the opposite.

He said, "No, there is no way

that we would fire upon these UAPs

just for the sheer technological superiority

of these vehicles."

I mean, can you imagine

getting one of these vehicles really pissed at you

if you're just in a conventional jet propulsion engine plane?

You know, it wouldn't be good. It just wouldn't be good.

And I think the people who give the call,

the green light, red light, to go ahead and shoot,

I think they know that. They know that.

And they feel that dissuasion.

They feel that they shouldn't shoot at these things,

because it would turn out real bad.

[SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING]

MAN: So if the President of the United States wanted to hire SEAL Team Six

or a Special Force operation to bust down the walls at Area 51,

our private corporation, would that be possible?

I don't really think it's going to happen quite that way.

In terms of, you know, them busting into places and bringing things out.

It's going to be a negotiated situation by using leverage.

Now, what does the legal constitutional government of the United States have

that these organizations don't have?

The rule of law,

the Constitution, prosecutorial powers, and subpoena powers.

So at a certain point,

once I have been given enough specific information

that they have gotten into and seen that this is real,

it then becomes a matter of political and social will

to bring these projects to heel

and put them on a leash

so that they are overseen appropriately

by we, the people, and our people's representatives.

So, that is really how that's going to happen.

You know, someone recommended when Obama got inaugurated,

that I recommend that he go in with tactical nuclear weapons

into some of these facilities.

And I said, "This is the craziest thing I ever heard of."

I said, "No, I'm not going to recommend that."

But, it wouldn't work anyway,

because they would just self-destruct all those assets.

So they have things in place to do that.

So it has to be done very smart.

You know, now there has to be a serious, um... threat,

not a violent threat, of consequences.

Because, ultimately, if a group organization,

corporation, stays on that path,

they're actually committing treason

and treason can be prosecuted

up to and including execution, federally.

So, once you establish that that's what's going on,

which we have,

then it's about using that power.

And as I've said,

I've said to them many times in the last few months,

you're either going to make the U.S. government relevant on this issue or not.

And that's... I don't control that.

But, all I can do is advise this is the approach you should be taking.

[SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING]

[INTERVIEWER SPEAKING]

DR. GREER: No, I don't worry about that. No. There was a time I did.

But you know, there are other ways to do that, obviously.

Even if your cell phone is off, um, totally off,

they're tracking and monitoring.

All my email is continuously monitored.

Anything important it gets to me gets diverted, as you've seen.

This is happening now to some of the folks in the investigation here in D.C.

And I said this is just to be expected.

You're not going to, you know, be able to get around that.

But it's, you know. Look, you know,

when you look at way back in 1950,

the Wilbur Smith documentary said

"this is the most classified project in the history of the United States,

exceeding the development of a hydrogen bomb," right?

We hadn't detonated a hydrogen bomb yet.

And it is, to this day, still in that level.

Except, they went deep black beyond constitutional oversight

between 1945 and 1955.

That was the decade, by the way, where the whole thing went off the rails.

But, the technologies and the capabilities they have,

even people who are read into National Security Agency, CIA,

and the National Reconnaissance Office of Technology and Satellites,

they're not read into the means that this organization has,

this covert secret government group,

and that's why they're always shocked,

because they think they're using encryption

and everything's known instantly.

They think they are, you know, in a skiff,

and everything that's done in there is known instantly.

And I warn people.

I started warning people that in 1993,

when the man who set up my meeting with the CI director

wanted me to be going to phone booths, talking in code

[CHUCKLES]

so nobody would know.

And I said, "John, this is not going to work."

Because, even by '93 I'd been read into

what the technologies were

that can go totally around conventional signals intelligence.

So, anyway.

You know, you just arrived, so I'm very patient with it,

because I understand the SEC ops

security ops that people have to do to comply with their regulations.

Those are employed in the government.

I, on the other hand, have never been in the government and never...

I paid a few million dollars in taxes,

but I've never gotten an Indian Head nickel.

But, um...

But, that's something I just understand,

because that's the way, you know, their world works.

But, I just tell them, "Don't expect it to keep you from being tracked

and monitored in real time."

I mean, after all, I mean, except for the names

and personal confidences I keep,

which I'm very strict about.

You know, you figure...

I'm not going to keep a secret from any of these guys.

As Ben Rich said,

"There are no private conversations anywhere on the planet."

That was one of the things Ben Rich said

in that lecture.

And that's true, by the way.

So, you know, once you realize that, then why waste the time?

I tell people strategically, if you do a lot of,

you know, spy versus spy weirdness,

trying to be so paranoid,

then all you're doing is slowing yourself and your team down.

But, you're not slowing down your adversaries here,

the people, you know, the criminal organization doing this.

Because, they got technologies that are many generations ahead

of what even folks who are managing the black budget know about.

So, you know, at a certain point

once you realize that, it's very liberating.

Why? Because you don't have to keep a secret.

You just, you know, like I said,

the only thing when I'm talking to people,

is that if I have, you know, a colonel or some operative

out of Area 51 contact me

and wants their name to be kept strictly quiet,

I keep their confidence.

You know, but other than that, the information,

and it's sort of like the Chatham House rules

in London, the think tank,

I went to a secret meeting once,

and they invoked the Chatham House rules.

And what that is,

it means that you can share anything you hear at the meeting,

but you can't cite who said it.

You can't disclose who the source was.

So, I was there as the keynote talking about these technologies and this issue

to a whole group of elites on an island off the coast of Australia.

There's about 120 global elites there.

But, the reality is more than 90 percent of all the men and a few women that come to me,

they're not wanting to have their identities known in the public.

They may be happy to let their identities be known to the folks

that I'm providing materials to here in Washington,

but not to the general public.

So I go, "Okay, that means that's your requirement."

So I think there is, you know, a whole ethics around this,

which is also very old-fashioned, some would say.

But, you know, being trained as a doctor,

you know, it's like doctor-patient privilege.

And they know I'm going to be very strict about that.

One of the problems you run into when you're dealing with an area

where you absolutely need and require a security clearance,

and you send signed a nondisclosure agreement.

What are the ramifications if you decide to go public?

You know Bob Lazar did it.

He decided that it was worth the risk.

Because he felt that his life was in danger.

And that may be, you know, the...

the catalyst that...

makes someone else decide,

"I'm going to do what's right.

I'm going to go public on what I know, what I've seen."

And that has to happen.

There's got to be legislation put forward.

I don't think it's going to happen with this President.

Maybe his replacement.

But it has to be done because this information has to get out.

If we are being visited by

interdimensional beings from wherever,

we should know about it.

I mean, if you don't know who your adversary is,

if you don't know who the enemy of the people are, you know,

besides the federal government,

you know, you're putting yourself in a disadvantage.

And I'm talking about the world in general,

not just individuals.

And I want to know.

And I've been criticized for asking,

demanding answers from my government.

But, it is my government,

and it's for the people, by the people.

You know, there are people in some of these organizations feel that, you know,

they are God Almighty.

They have, you know, they have all the information

and we can control your destiny by what we know,

and we're not going to share that information with you.

And to me, that's baloney.

That's, you know, that's un-American, and that's just wrong.

[SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING]

Well, this is a big question.

It's like, if we can make this happen,

an actual, honest disclosure of this subject would include

not only the fact that we're not alone in the universe

and that we need a diplomatic effort

to reach out to these civilizations,

but the 70 years of research and development

of astonishing technologies that would transform the world,

those would begin to come out

and the world in ten, 20, 30, 40 years from now,

won't even look like this planet.

I mean, every aspect of our civilization

will just be raised to a much higher level

of prosperity, abundance.

Free, clean energy.

Transport, eventually, will be above ground.

So, it's a very exciting world.

And, you know, once you get to the point where civilization

has that kind of abundance

and social justice,

then you can actually begin talking about having peace.

Globally.

And so the whole world can take this big leap forward,

a quantum movement forward.

But, it's not going to happen

unless we change what we're doing.

You know, this is why I left my medical career,

because the implications of this...

is the difference between us

heading in the direction we are now,

which is an extinction-level civilization,

versus one that's going to take off to the stars

and go forever.

It's beautiful.

So, that's the consequences.

This happened, unfortunately, to the Trump administration.

I was trying to intervene when they were being approached by people

who were going into the White House

with briefing dossiers filled with these terrifying accounts,

so that they could convince the President and the Vice President

that there was an "alien threat".

And, unfortunately, they were so convinced,

and subsequently we got something called the Space Force,

which has various purposes.

But, part of it is to be kicked into gear,

once they disclose, falsely, there

being a threat from outer space.

So, this is something that is, you know,

people say, "Oh, it's a conspiracy theory."

I said, "No. There are conspiracies that are facts."

There is something called the Mafia.

There are criminal conspiracies.

The people running these projects

are the largest conspiracy of criminals in the history

of the world. Bar none.

There's nothing that comes close.

Now, I can prove that in a court of law.

What I just said can be proven.

But, we hope it doesn't get to that.

What we hope is that the truth can come out.

The problem is, we are very much the underdog

in trying to educate the public on this

in a way that's objective and factual,

and that could lead to a positive outcome.

You know, what good is it to go from

geopolitical tensions over China and Taiwan,

and Russia and Ukraine,

and then expand those global tensions to an interplanetary level?

Well, this is not going forward for our civilization and our species for humans.

So, this is the big challenge.

It's a battle for the minds and hearts

of the people of the world.

This is really what... It's not an evidential issue now.

I mean, even the government has said, that's real.

The UFOs are real.

UAPs, whatever the nom of the day is,

you know, that the name of the hour is.

You notice they keep changing the name to bigger and bigger fake names.

But, in reality,

this is exactly what I had predicted

back in the '90s when I saw the plan

for what was going on

and had people inside the system say,

"This is what we're doing and this is how we're doing it."

Now, this has the big disadvantage of the truth

being much more unbelievable

than the fiction.

The fiction everyone thinks is going on,

like this blinkered professor who was this guy, Garry Nolan,

who I sort of introduced to this subject some years ago.

People like that just take the bait, hook, line, and sinker.

But, they don't have the depth and breadth of contacts

to verify anything they're talking about.

They'll just get a case.

"Oh, This happened to this person."

They don't ask the question.

How did it happen?

Who did it?

Why might it have been done?

Well, it wasn't "aliens".

And I believe that they have done this successfully a few more times.

And have possibly been reverse-engineering these things for decades.

And right now,

they're so advanced they have something called a TR3B,

which is the most widely-seen UFO right now,

which actually is not alien.

It's actually ours.

And these TR3Bs are triangular-shaped crafts

with a rotating ring at the bottom.

And these things are capable of anti-gravity, flying silent,

moving at incredible speeds, they create an anti-gravity bubble,

which allows the pilot to not feel the G-forces like a normal flight pilot would,

a fighter pilot would, in a different kind of plane.

And so some of these things are creating

different types of side effects,

different levels of radiation,

and other types of exotic energies

that are being emitted from these things.

Specifically, the fact that it seems to be

running off of some type of electrified mercury vortex.

Which means, if that gets out or if that leaks or drips,

or comes in contact with anybody, any skin, any human being

or any biological material, it's going to permanently damage it.

So, it could be that some of these UFOs, UAPs are actually ours,

and there's bad side effects to this technology

as we begin to learn how to develop it and actually perfect it.

A classic case.

One of the most famous cases. Cash-Landrum.

So, there's a case to illustrate...

uncontested.

These women were outside Houston,

and there was a extraterrestrial vehicle that we had captured,

that we were test flying and we could not get

the energy system to run properly,

so we put, stupidly,

a portable nuclear reactor on the thing for energy,

like some of the space satellites

and some other objects we put up.

But this is flying over U. S. territory.

They had a malfunction on it.

And we know this because

an Air Force Office of Special Investigations official,

who was the principal investigator of this accident,

has testified on camera for us about this.

But, as it was flying along and it had this malfunction,

it started spewing radioactive material on people.

Now, of course, the nuts in the UFO conspiracy theories,

now this is the conspiracy theory,

We're going, "Oh, my God, the aliens are radiating people

and killing, injuring people."

This is just what you just saw had on Fox News.

Well, actually, it was four humans

piloting and older extraterrestrial vehicle

that humans had put on a small nuclear reactor

that malfunctioned, and was totally

a human covert black project,

military mishap.

And those women who were... they were hospitalized and badly injured

with radiation illness.

But, they could not sue the government because when they tried,

the government just said, "We don't know anything about this."

But, the people who said we don't know anything about it, didn't.

Because, again, there are two governments.

There is the government of we, the people,

and as Senator Inouye, from Hawaii, said,

"There's a secret government with its own Air Force, its own Navy,

its own funding mechanism, that's above the law and free from the law itself."

I'm paraphrasing, but it's very close to the quote.

Well, when you have that situation,

an innocent civilian harmed

by one of these illegal black projects. Deep black.

Those guys are going to have to,

you know, they're going to deny

any involvement, because they're black.

They're not acknowledged this existing.

So, when someone goes through a FOIA request

or the main government,

the main government, literally, when they say,

"We don't know. anything about this," they know nothing about it.

So, this is one of the big problems.

It's like it's two parallel universes

between the secret government and the mainstream legal constitutional government.

This Cash-Landrum case is one of hundreds and hundreds like that.

All over the world, not just U.S.

I mean that CI document from 1985

states explicitly, it was a psychological warfare operation

staging alien abductions,

with, you know, poor villagers in Brazil and Argentina.

So, I am recommending that that document be subpoenaed

from the people who I know hold it.

I know three people who hold that document,

who will not release it.

I think they're afraid of being killed.

But, that's really what the agenda is,

and it's not hard to do.

Moreover, there have been enough number of accidents

that have been like the test flying or malfunction

of a manmade anti-gravity alien reproduction vehicle,

whatever you want to call them.

Where they will then make it look like it was some alien unknown UFO, UAP thing.

Because it's a great cover story.

It's a great cover story for all kinds of accidents.

You just sort of blame it on the aliens, right?

So this is very easy to do when people don't have enough knowledge.

So, knowledge is power.

And If you have a government, here and abroad, other governments

who don't have this knowledge,

they are powerless over the folks who do,

and who can do circles around them,

not only technologically, but in terms of staging things.

So, this is the big vulnerability

I started warning about in the '90s.

Like, when I was briefing the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency,

General Hughes, that was the whole subject matter.

Which is why he didn't know how vulnerable he was,

how vulnerable the Pentagon was,

because everyone thinks that the "government" is hiding UFOs.

I said, "Most of the people in the government know nothing about this issue.

This is why I am here a lot and meeting with folks."

The bigger issue is, why don't they know?

And who does know? And what's the architecture of that secrecy?

Because in my mind,

that is the biggest security threat to the United States

and the world happening in the last 50 years.

More than the Cold War, more than China.

And it's not an alien national security threat.

It's from within.

And there's a great quote about how the worst enemies or the treasonous people

from within.

So now, luckily, there are a lot of people now here in Washington,

in high places who have concluded, as I did,

back 30 years ago

that this group conducting these programs

are in fact the breakaway, treasonous people.

And if they do not come clean, they need to be treated that way.

If the world was able to see exactly what was going on behind the veil

with these black budget top secret projects,

these secret space programs that do exist

that are being run out of private corporations,

they'd be blown away.

First and foremost, the reason why they're using private corporations

is because then they can avoid the Freedom of Information Act,

because with that FOIA, they can actually then release all the information

to the public, even if it's redacted.

But through private corporations,

now they can hide everything.

They can cover everything up.

And what happens behind the scenes

is advanced technology that's 300 years ahead

of what the general population is at right now.

So, whatever you can think of has already happened.

Whatever you can possibly even conceive, already exists.

That's how far advanced they are.

But, by keeping these things locked up in the black budget programs

and using them for top secret military projects,

the general population is only going to get this information one slight trickle at a time.

When you're talking about the USAID programs,

the unacknowledged special access programs,

there are other programs where

as Dr. Greer had mentioned before,

that if if you're working on those type programs and the President asks you

for specific details, regarding that program,

your mandatory reply is to be,

"Mr. President, no such project exists."

So in that way,

they are able to compartmentalize different programs,

different projects, different locations.

We kind of talked about where these crash retrievals are kept.

There's multiple repositories around the country

where these debris, bodies, craft,

are allegedly being stored.

Examples would be Wright-Patterson Air Force Base,

Langley Air Force Base, Virginia. Homestead Air Force Base, Florida,

MacDill Air Force Base, Florida.

All allegedly locations where debris and bodies are being kept.

INTERVIEWER: What kind of projects?

Do you have an example?

Okay. I've got an example for you.

A specific example.

Timeframe is 1952, and the primary eyewitness is working at the Pentagon.

She goes down to a lower level and I don't know how this actually went down,

but she accidentally bumped into a room

that she wasn't supposed to go inside.

So you can picture this this dark, musty, dingy room.

It's very poorly lit and there's some boxes off to the side.

She kind of goes into this room.

She kind of makes about a 180 degrees.

And what does she see

kind of sitting off to the side?

About a three-foot tall "pickled alien in a glass jar".

And within like ten seconds,

she feels this very firm hand on her shoulder,

and it was an MP.

Again, this is 1952 at the lower level of the Pentagon,

and this MP says, "You are not supposed to be here."

He got her out of there immediately.

And you can see here,

so very concerned look on her face.

But, she did see a pickle alien in a glass jar

at the underground facility at the Pentagon in 1952.

So, if this woman's testimony is true,

and we have no reason to believe that it's not,

they do have the physical evidence that we need

as a coalition of ufologists to move this field forward.

This is what happens when you have 70 years of illegal,

corrupt, beyond black projects,

and you have generations of people

who have been in government.

Some, you know, for 30, 40 years

who have no idea what's been going on beneath the surface.

I mean, to the point that

some of these folks who are at that level of oversight,

an oversight of the intelligence community and the black budget of the United States,

they didn't know that there were DUMBS,

Deep Underground Military Bases.

They didn't know there were connectors

between, say, Edwards Air Force Base and that facility

and the Nellis Range, so called Area 51.

I had to dredge up the actual blueprints of the machine

that built them

and told them about which corporations like Bechtel Corporation and others

that ran and built those with

a beyond black budget authorization.

So, all of this gets to be very complicated, including the money.

[CHUCKLES]

So, you know, one of the first questions was,

how is this being funded?

I said, "Well, several mechanisms." One...

those States say the B-2 stealth bomber

cost two billion dollars a copy.

Actually probably cost more like $100 million, $150 million.

The rest is diverted into a black project

that they don't know about and have not approved.

Now, that is, in fact, embezzlement

of U.S. federal taxpayer dollars.

The other issue is

corporations that have gotten spinoffs

of these technologies that have been studied since the '40s and '50s.

The reverse-engineering of

extraterrestrial-advanced systems,

who then have it pass on some of that information

to a corporate public entity

that can then sell you a fiber optic system

or a night vision system

or an advanced integrated circuit and things of this sort.

So, that creates a profit center

for subsidiaries of these corporations.

And, of course, the darkest is the illegal running of both arms and drugs

by some elements, the darkest elements of these covert groups

And that is not an urban myth.

That is real.

And I had two men,

one was a senior executive SAIC,

Science Applications International Corporation,

and the other one was a former congressman

who is a bit of a consigliere

for George H. W. Bush Sr.

And they both... I met with them here in Crystal City,

near the Pentagon, at the congressman's condo.

And they explained to me how there was an army of 8,000 men

that were running drugs illegally,

that were undercover of military

covert secret projects

and that this was destroying things.

I mean, it's an absolutely destruction of our planet.

I will tell you, Director Deutch,

as a former Los Angeles police narcotics detective,

that the agency has dealt drugs throughout this country

-for a long time. -[ALL CHEERING AND CLAPPING]

Director Deutch, I will refer you to three specific agency operations

known as Amadeus, Pegasus and Watch Tower.

I have Watch Tower documents heavily redacted by the agency.

I was personally exposed to CIA operations and recruited by CIA personnel who attempted

to recruit me in the late '70s,

to become involved in protecting agency drug operations in this country.

I have been trying to get this out for 18 years and I have the evidence.

So, we had this long discussion

about the rot and the danger of this kind of secrecy,

because if no one's controlling them, or watching them,

all kinds of things can happen, and that's what has happened.

So, this is now...

Now, let's talk about what this is really about.

It's really about the renewal of democracy,

because everyone says,

"We're in a free country and a democracy."

But, how free and how democratic can it be,

if the most important technologies,

the most important discoveries,

are kept from the media and the public and our policymakers?

I remember Jimmy Carter

demanded to know about this and the outgoing CI director.

And we have this from people who were involved at the time,

told the incoming President, "We're not going to tell you anything."

So there are... This happened.

Bill Clinton explicitly made inquiries

and was denied information.

So, you know, I'm not speculating when I say that when you do that,

this is why in a court of law,

you can prove that these projects

are being run illegally and unconstitutionally.

That's, you know, that's a matter of fact.

And that's happened to Presidents since Eisenhower.

I remember Eisenhower lost control of these projects in the late '50s,

And that's when these entire operations just sort of

got big enough and powerful enough

to sort of go off on their own

and would disclose what they wanted to the President.

So, I think that's why it takes

someone who's willing to issue,

you know, subpoenas and investigate and get to the bottom of it,

which is happening now.

The question is, how far are they going to able to go before they get sat down?

All this boils down to one word: courage.

You know, if you have the courage to do it, fine.

If you don't, then you're irrelevant, you know?

And that's why when, after I briefed Clinton's CI director,

his friend came down to my house and said,

"Well, they're convinced that President will end up like Jack Kennedy."

I thought it was a joke.

And he said, "No." I said, "Well, he's the President and I'm not."

So, if you want to be the President

or if you want to be a member of the Senate or House,

you have an obligation and a responsibility.

Now, if you want to shirk it, you can't complain about the fact

that this is an out of control black project.

So, you either have to, you know, step up to the plate,

or get off, you know, move out of the way.

But, for decades, people have not been willing to do either.

They're just too intimidated,

because of the threats and bribes

and all that kind of stuff.

I mean, you know, I've had so many of my colleagues that I started working with

who've gotten threats or buy-offs,

and then were subsequently corrupted.

So, I think that's one of the real problems

in a city like this, where you spread enough money around you twist enough arms,

you get what you want.

So, I always say the indispensable currency in all this to me isn't money.

It's the courage to do it.

And if you don't have the courage to do it,

then you just made yourself, whether you're the President

or you're the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee

or whoever, you've made yourself irrelevant.

So, being relevant, on something like this means

having the courage to go the distance.

So, there's something there. We just don't know what it is.

Do you think it could possibly be Russia or another foreign adversary?

That's what we need to find out.

Because if there is an adversary with that kind of technology,

then we definitely need to be very, very careful.

How much they know?

I don't know. I know I've been dealing with some people in Russia

who are very informed on the subject.

I don't know to what extent Putin

or Xi in China are involved or briefed on it.

I just don't have anyone at that level in those governments.

Here, I do.

But, in the United States and Great Britain and other countries.

So, that's a big question mark.

Interestingly, there are members of the Senate

who have been questioned whether these UAPs

are from China, which they're not.

But, I think that's...

One of the problems is that during even the Cold War,

there were events with UFOs that were mistaken as a possible

incoming threat from the Soviet Union,

and something like that is dangerous.

So, I think this is another reason why

the extreme secrecy on this issue

is a danger to operational tactical decisions

that are being made at the Pentagon or CIA or wherever.

Because, most of those guys don't know what these objects are.

So, something could happen.

They think, oh, that's coming from China or Russia or whatever.

And it isn't.

Either it could be man-made UFO or it could be an extraterrestrial one.

So not having that in your algorithm,

not having that in your list of things,

maybe it's this, maybe it's that, maybe it's this.

That is really dangerous.

And I think this is a big problem that doesn't get talked about in the media.

There is a threat to the national security that's very severe, related to UFOs.

But, it's not that the UFOs from outer space are a threat,

the human secrecy is a threat.

And that's what the first director of the CIA

wrote to The New York Times in a letter.

And we have the letter, Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter

where he said the secrecy around UFOs is a threat

to the national security.

This is 1960 or '61.

So, you know, don't take my opinion.

Take the opinion of the very first Director of the CIA.

[SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING]

There was a statement the five felons

from Lue Elizondo in contact with this lure as well,

and they were talking back and forth.

And these statements were leaked out to everyone,

and they really showed what Lue Elizondo is really all about.

I mean, there are actually accusations

of the Fellon-5 saying that all these people,

John Greenwald of the Black Vault,

Thirdphaseofmoon, and Dr. Greer...

[LAUGHS] Dr. Greer.

...and a couple of others.

You know, I know these people.

And for anyone to say that they are

charlatans or they're criminals,

or they have a criminal record,

it's ludicrous.

It's ludicrous.

Anyone who has talked with any of these, anybody was talked with

John Greenwald, with Dr. Greer, with Thirdphaseofmoon,

I mean, knows that these are people who are

utterly dedicated,

utterly dedicated to their purpose,

which is to bring the truth to people.

Bring real things to people that people can actually use.

And that's what Dr. Greer has dedicated his life to.

That's what John Greenwald...

John Greenwald is just a super intellect.

He's got just a huge intellect.

I mean, he's not a person who has

any iota of criminality about him at all.

And Thirdphaseofmoons.

I mean, they're just guys who just care about bringing the truth

in an area that has so much fakery in it.

So much fakery.

Which brings me back to Lue Elizondo.

Lue Elizondo is just using

standard techniques of a CIA contractor,

that's what they teach them.

They teach them to envelope whoever the enemy is,

whoever is speaking out against you,

you're supposed to wrap them up with false accusations,

counter claims,

and the more scurrilous and baseless

the accusations are, the better.

Because, you're trying to create outrage.

You're trying to show people that they can't mess with you.

Greenstreet, Greenwald, and Thirdphaseofmoon and yourself, The Fellon-5.

[LAUGHS]

Yes, I like this.

That people who are the mouthpieces

for an unconstitutional, rogue, criminal organization

calls people who are actually the truth tellers, the felons.

You know, and I've been called that for years.

You know, back in the '90s there were a group of these guys

who basically said I'm a traitor to my country.

When in reality, these people are creating high crimes,

misdemeanors and treason by deceiving the public,

lying to the President, lying to the Congress,

taking hundreds of billions of dollars,

trillions over the years

and putting them into unapproved projects

that the Congress doesn't know they're spending the money on,

and we can prove that also.

But, of course, people like that are always going to accuse other people

of what they themselves are guilty of.

Just remember that.

And, you know, one of the things that just irks the hell out of me

is when we're in a relatively small community.

You know, those of us that investigate and look into the unexplained.

And there are people out there

that are getting an awful lot of media coverage that aren't,

you know, they aren't doing themselves or other areas of interests any good.

When you're, uh...

When you're slamming people for being unprofessional,

you're slamming people for being incompetent.

I mean, again it's the people who are, you know,

the people are saying that are, you know,

the three or four talking heads that you see all the time.

I mean, it's Lue. It's...

Jeremy.

It's Nick and few others, and it's...

They keep going to the same ones.

They're not coming up with any answers.

Yet they feel it's their duty to trash people like the Cousin brothers

who go out and they get the news, you know, they're the first ones there.

Why should you be jealous of that?

JOHN: Just the fact that he would just scurrilously

make accusations like this.

The release of these emails really show what kind of person Elizondo is,

and that's why anyone going forward from here,

anyone who associates with him, in the ufology community or anywhere else,

they're just taking their own life into their hands

by associating with this guy,

because he will turn on them at any moment. Any moment.

Just like he did with these five people,

who he actually has had contacts with in the past,

and just he [SNAPS FINGERS] turned on a dime because that's his training.

I'm telling you, that's what it is.

He's trained to do this and he'll continue to do this

as long as he's around.

They do a flip, you know.

So, the only way they know how to handle it

is they accuse other people what they themselves are doing.

[INTERVIEWER SPEAKING]

What?

MAN: When he calls us, I've never had... were not felons.

Are you a felon?

-Have you ever had... -I've never had a felony.

Of course not.

I mean, you couldn't have a medical license

[CHUCKLES] for one thing, which I have.

But anyway, you know, this is just...

This is the typical what happens is, the people, the whistleblowers,

always get attacked by very powerful interests

that are being exposed for their criminal activities.

And that's a really typical response from people who know they're wrong.

It's doing a disservice to all of us,

not just the ones that they are bad mouthing,

but to the entire industry.

And if you come across as a bunch of crybabies

and say, "Well, so and so is an ass and so and so is incompetent,

and so and so doesn't know what the hell he's doing."

It also reflects on you.

I mean, in today's world, all you see nowadays

are people slamming other people, and it's not right.

Unfortunately, you know, you just have to...

If you're doing this kind of work, which I've been doing for 30 years now,

you just take it as a given that you're going to have these sort of attacks

hurled at you, you know, all kinds of defamation and accusations.

And I don't think...

You know, I tell people, you just have to get battle-hardened

if you're taking on the most powerful group

of criminal, monied people in the world,

and this is what this is.

I mean, you know, there's no question that

the group that's keeping this stuff secret,

they have the most power, the greatest technologies,

the most influence of any group in the world.

Certainly more than 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue up here.

I sure hope to hell, you know, before my time is up,

that we get full disclosure.

That Dr. Greer and his soldiers,

all the, you know, all the men and women

that support his effort and all the, you know,

the fans and dedicated people that support the effort of the Cousin brothers

and Michael Schratt and others that are just...

We're just trying to find information.

We're just trying to do what...

what any human being would do.

You know, I'm curious to who are these people?

And I'm hoping before... before I start pushing up weeds,

I'm hoping that there's an answer.

I'm hoping there's full disclosure.

And they tell us, "Okay, this is where we came from,

this is where we're going, this is how they got here,

this is what it means to civilization and humanity in general."

And I'm hoping that day comes while I'm still here.

Now, I am fearful I'm going to live to be 105,

and I keep having recurring dreams that I am still around in 2050...

and hopefully something will happen by then.

Hopefully, something will happen before the end of the year.

[INTERVIEWER SPEAKING]

Pardon?

[INTERVIEWER SPEAKING]

And if not? Uh,

I'm going to come back and I'm going to haunt all you bastards

that wouldn't release the information.

If my mom can do it...

She was born on Halloween and you know, she had an incredible spirit.

And I have some of that same spirit in me.

If there isn't disclosure when my day comes,

I'm going to come back and I will be one haunting son of a bitch.

And I'm going to make life miserable for everybody that denied us access

and full disclosure.

The entire field of ufology has this strange,

self-protection automatic system built into it.

Because it's so crazy.

It's so outlandish.

It's just so odd-ball-sounding, bodies and aliens and craft and debris

and a big cover up.

And it's been lasting for 75 years

and we have nothing to prove.

So you can see it's got this self-protection,

fail-safe mechanism built into it.

The story is so crazy,

the government really doesn't have to do too much

to keep their secrets, because it's so outlandish.

We're the ones, you know, keeping the cover-up alive,

because we're talking about these stories and so, you can see how it's easy

for the government to keep this secret, because the story is so crazy.

Without that physical evidence,

we'll always be in this zone of mockery and belittling.

And the giggle factor is still alive.

Even after all these congressional hearings,

what we need to pierce through

is the Leonard Stringfield crash retrieval case's

actual physical evidence.

Then we got something.

So it's easy to trigger the fear,

and people are gonna assume it's from outer space,

it's a threat. "Oh, my God, I'm so scared."

So, it would be nothing at this point.

After 70 years of this kind of planning,

brainwashing, disinformation,

to have one singular event happen.

It could be a fairly minor event.

That'd be it.

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