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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:15,382 --> 00:00:19,052 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING] 2 00:00:31,231 --> 00:00:33,001 MAN 1: For the first time in half a century, 3 00:00:33,033 --> 00:00:35,102 there will be a public hearing on UFOs. 4 00:00:35,135 --> 00:00:39,473 The House Intelligence are up to hear two senior Pentagon officials tomorrow, 5 00:00:39,507 --> 00:00:42,710 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING] 6 00:00:47,549 --> 00:00:51,719 MAN 2: If Congress can't get answers on something this simple from the Pentagon, 7 00:00:51,753 --> 00:00:55,757 how can we expect that Congress really knows what's going on with the Pentagon at all? 8 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,461 MAN 3: Federal lawmakers who have been briefed on the sightings say, 9 00:01:01,495 --> 00:01:04,264 "We're dealing with something quite different this time." 10 00:01:04,298 --> 00:01:07,936 And NASA Administrator Bill Nelson said it's something that the space agency 11 00:01:07,969 --> 00:01:11,539 is very serious about. 12 00:01:11,573 --> 00:01:15,643 MAN 4: Of course, there's another theory that this is adversary technology 13 00:01:15,677 --> 00:01:18,078 from Russia or China, for example. 14 00:01:18,111 --> 00:01:22,817 But, you know, the extraterrestrial hypothesis is out there, too. 15 00:01:22,850 --> 00:01:27,454 MAN 5: So they're generals in the military, and sometimes they refer to the endgame 16 00:01:27,487 --> 00:01:32,225 as far as the military strategy, obviously, this propulsion devices 17 00:01:32,259 --> 00:01:36,363 such as a tic tac has some heavy propulsion. 18 00:01:36,396 --> 00:01:41,168 How concerned are some of these guys in regard to this private corporation, 19 00:01:41,201 --> 00:01:44,005 possibly having this power? 20 00:01:44,038 --> 00:01:47,441 Well, it's come something in very meeting I've had since the 90s 21 00:01:47,474 --> 00:01:52,046 is that when people begin to look into this, whether you're admiral or general, 22 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,783 what's going to happen is that once you realize that there is an organization 23 00:01:55,817 --> 00:01:59,954 that have technologies that can do circles around the B-2 Stealth, 24 00:01:59,988 --> 00:02:03,591 then they immediately feel outgunned, and they are. 25 00:02:03,625 --> 00:02:06,661 Technologically, they absolutely are outgunned. 26 00:02:06,694 --> 00:02:11,431 So the question then becomes, you have to have a different strategy. 27 00:02:11,465 --> 00:02:15,402 Because you're not going to resolve this problem in a conventional, 28 00:02:15,435 --> 00:02:17,137 confrontational way. 29 00:02:17,170 --> 00:02:20,240 You're going to have to do things where you disclose the information. 30 00:02:20,273 --> 00:02:24,444 You get the people on your side, you use the rule of law. 31 00:02:24,478 --> 00:02:28,883 So the end game is that, unless there's enough pressure 32 00:02:28,916 --> 00:02:30,885 put on these guys that they capitulate. 33 00:02:30,918 --> 00:02:34,722 And they come clean. And we'll see. 34 00:02:34,756 --> 00:02:37,992 I mean, it's hard to know how that will all play out. 35 00:02:38,026 --> 00:02:39,894 On the other hand, they may hit the button 36 00:02:39,927 --> 00:02:42,697 for a false flag or some other event. 37 00:02:42,730 --> 00:02:45,133 This is what you don't know when you're dealing with people 38 00:02:45,165 --> 00:02:46,968 who are sociopaths and crazy people 39 00:02:47,001 --> 00:02:48,636 who have that much power. 40 00:02:48,670 --> 00:02:51,171 I call it the Doctor Strange Love Syndrome. 41 00:02:51,204 --> 00:02:53,608 You know, where they just get crazy. 42 00:02:53,641 --> 00:02:58,513 NEWSREADER: Washington, D. C. may remain divided by partisan animosity of those things, 43 00:02:58,546 --> 00:03:00,414 but something's apparently is to rise above politics 44 00:03:00,447 --> 00:03:03,084 and considering the national security implications, 45 00:03:03,117 --> 00:03:05,553 the House of Representatives voted unanimously 46 00:03:05,586 --> 00:03:07,287 to create a secure government system 47 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:08,956 for reporting UFOs. 48 00:03:08,990 --> 00:03:10,658 DR. GREER: People around the President, 49 00:03:10,692 --> 00:03:14,394 you know, may say, "Look, this is an inevitable situation." 50 00:03:14,428 --> 00:03:21,401 So, you know, we want to be on the right side of this and begin to cooperate openly, 51 00:03:21,435 --> 00:03:24,005 but, you know, that remains to be seen. 52 00:03:24,038 --> 00:03:29,043 I think that they're also intimidated by the power behind 53 00:03:29,077 --> 00:03:32,980 some of these beyond black projects 54 00:03:33,014 --> 00:03:35,215 that it's a frightening proposition. 55 00:03:35,248 --> 00:03:39,887 And, unfortunately, that's a real problem because, as I mentioned, 56 00:03:39,921 --> 00:03:43,223 intimidation is a big issue. 57 00:03:43,256 --> 00:03:44,826 MAN: There's been some official 58 00:03:44,859 --> 00:03:47,762 sort of channel being created here for these pilots 59 00:03:47,795 --> 00:03:50,064 who were witnessing all sorts of things to be able to come forward, 60 00:03:50,098 --> 00:03:52,232 discussing things without harming their own careers. 61 00:03:52,265 --> 00:03:53,868 Obviously, a major issue. 62 00:03:53,901 --> 00:04:00,742 One of my roles is to try to say, "Look, just stay the course. 63 00:04:00,775 --> 00:04:02,143 This is an intimidation." 64 00:04:02,176 --> 00:04:05,680 It's more of a mind trick. 65 00:04:05,713 --> 00:04:09,083 But a lot of these folks, they are, you know, 66 00:04:09,117 --> 00:04:10,752 they're going to be intimidated, 67 00:04:10,785 --> 00:04:12,220 and then they're gonna fall silent. 68 00:04:13,487 --> 00:04:15,623 I know that's happened to a number of Presidents 69 00:04:15,656 --> 00:04:19,560 and the ones where it hasn't happened, 70 00:04:19,594 --> 00:04:22,530 they were given just enough information 71 00:04:22,563 --> 00:04:28,736 to make them develop policies that run to the favor of these covert programs. 72 00:04:28,770 --> 00:04:33,674 I think that's what happened with Reagan, with SDI Star Wars. 73 00:04:33,708 --> 00:04:36,476 It's quite likely, I believe, that's what happened with Trump 74 00:04:36,511 --> 00:04:40,447 and Pence with the Space Force and some other things. 75 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:45,186 So. you know. Because remember, if you're the fox guarding the henhouse, 76 00:04:45,219 --> 00:04:49,157 you can walk into the Oval Office 77 00:04:49,190 --> 00:04:52,960 and present all kinds of frightening-looking stuff 78 00:04:52,994 --> 00:04:57,198 that would be convincing to someone who has come into the Oval Office 79 00:04:57,231 --> 00:04:59,967 as a peanut farmer like Carter, 80 00:05:00,001 --> 00:05:04,806 or a real estate developer like Trump or whatever, 81 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,406 you know, fill in the blank. 82 00:05:06,439 --> 00:05:08,810 Um, so they're very vulnerable. 83 00:05:08,843 --> 00:05:11,546 This is one of the big problems with this kind of secrecy. 84 00:05:11,579 --> 00:05:14,782 If there's corruption in the system, which there is, 85 00:05:14,816 --> 00:05:19,020 then the President and his inner circle that he appoints and brings in, 86 00:05:19,053 --> 00:05:25,960 are very vulnerable to either the information being partial, or false or completely withheld. 87 00:05:25,993 --> 00:05:33,134 And fixing that is a major investigation that's going to require those, 88 00:05:33,167 --> 00:05:36,771 like I said, subpoena power and the willing to go the distance. 89 00:05:36,804 --> 00:05:40,440 Once people are identified and places are identified and say, 90 00:05:40,473 --> 00:05:45,179 "Look, this is, you know, you are now going to be compelled 91 00:05:45,213 --> 00:05:47,782 to disclose this information." 92 00:05:47,815 --> 00:05:51,152 Now, even if that happens, then the question becomes 93 00:05:51,185 --> 00:05:53,087 whether it's out of Capitol Hill or the White House, 94 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,657 how much of that will make it out to the United States public? 95 00:05:58,993 --> 00:06:02,763 Yeah, I think one of the really big problems the public doesn't understand about this, 96 00:06:02,797 --> 00:06:07,034 and I've been dealing with this since '93, 97 00:06:07,068 --> 00:06:09,170 that we meet with a lot of these officials 98 00:06:09,203 --> 00:06:13,841 who are not read into these projects and they find out it's true. 99 00:06:14,508 --> 00:06:15,610 They are traumatized. 100 00:06:15,643 --> 00:06:17,545 I mean, it's traumatic. 101 00:06:17,578 --> 00:06:20,348 I think, for the public, it's like a conspiracy theory. 102 00:06:20,380 --> 00:06:22,216 It's entertaining. 103 00:06:22,250 --> 00:06:24,886 It's something to Google, it's something, you know, troll of the Internet. 104 00:06:24,919 --> 00:06:27,989 But if you're actually on Capitol Hill or the White House 105 00:06:28,022 --> 00:06:30,858 or the Pentagon or CIA or in a responsible position 106 00:06:30,892 --> 00:06:35,263 and you find out that there is an entire universe, 107 00:06:35,296 --> 00:06:36,998 a whole secret government program, 108 00:06:37,031 --> 00:06:39,033 that's massive. 109 00:06:39,066 --> 00:06:42,169 That you don't know about and you're not overseeing, even though you are required 110 00:06:42,203 --> 00:06:44,071 to oversee it. 111 00:06:44,105 --> 00:06:48,309 It's a shock, it's traumatic, and I have been very compassionate about that 112 00:06:48,342 --> 00:06:51,444 and working with folks since the '90s, and more recently, 113 00:06:52,013 --> 00:06:53,480 these guys who... 114 00:06:53,514 --> 00:06:56,951 I mean, you know, they've been special forces, 115 00:06:56,984 --> 00:07:00,554 and they've done all kinds of things all over the world, 116 00:07:00,588 --> 00:07:05,092 and they are genuinely traumatized by it. 117 00:07:05,126 --> 00:07:09,931 Because it is a sort of a mind-blowing situation. 118 00:07:09,964 --> 00:07:13,067 And for that reason, 119 00:07:13,100 --> 00:07:17,772 we know that when you start talking about the leaders 120 00:07:17,805 --> 00:07:21,075 who are elected, the constitutionally-appointed, elected leaders 121 00:07:21,108 --> 00:07:26,948 they're going to have to be brought up to speed in a graduated way. 122 00:07:26,981 --> 00:07:30,551 Now, it could be a year, but it isn't going to be in one meeting. 123 00:07:30,584 --> 00:07:33,888 You know, it might be in 20 briefings or something. 124 00:07:33,921 --> 00:07:36,657 And so what I recommended is that they set up a set of 125 00:07:36,691 --> 00:07:39,260 briefing modules to be put together, 126 00:07:39,293 --> 00:07:41,963 that go over the whole course of the history of this, 127 00:07:41,996 --> 00:07:45,465 but then all of the facilities and the operations, 128 00:07:45,498 --> 00:07:50,504 but then also all the technologies, starting with the basic ones, 129 00:07:50,538 --> 00:07:53,507 [CHUCKLES] how those things fly, to the more esoteric ones. 130 00:07:55,676 --> 00:07:58,412 Compartmented operations underneath the Pentagon, 131 00:07:58,446 --> 00:08:02,316 technology management office, for example, um, 132 00:08:02,350 --> 00:08:05,820 some of the folks that I've been dealing with who literally oversee 133 00:08:05,853 --> 00:08:09,290 all the agencies and all that black budget funding. 134 00:08:09,323 --> 00:08:12,793 They literally, when I mentioned these facilities, 135 00:08:12,827 --> 00:08:13,794 they've never heard of them. 136 00:08:13,828 --> 00:08:15,663 They don't know where they are. 137 00:08:15,696 --> 00:08:20,301 So I think that, you know, when you're talking about most of Washington, 138 00:08:20,334 --> 00:08:24,005 they are just now beginning to ask any questions. 139 00:08:24,038 --> 00:08:29,110 But, so, it's not like there's any great effort. 140 00:08:29,143 --> 00:08:33,848 Now, when someone begins to make these inquiries, then they have surveillance, 141 00:08:33,881 --> 00:08:38,019 they have Black Hawk helicopters over their house and all that kind of stuff. 142 00:08:38,052 --> 00:08:42,456 But, that's just recently begun. 143 00:08:42,490 --> 00:08:46,560 Over the years, though, whether it's a President or anyone else 144 00:08:46,594 --> 00:08:48,295 who pushes too far into this... 145 00:08:48,329 --> 00:08:52,633 I recently found out that a congressman I had briefed way back 146 00:08:52,666 --> 00:08:57,471 named Congressman Christopher Cox of Orange County, 147 00:08:57,506 --> 00:09:00,908 when I put the facilities list together for him 148 00:09:00,941 --> 00:09:04,478 that listed all the contractors and all this, 149 00:09:04,513 --> 00:09:09,984 he had two guys approach him and threaten him with death 150 00:09:10,017 --> 00:09:14,655 and his family with death if he were to talk about this any further 151 00:09:14,688 --> 00:09:16,390 or make any more inquiries. 152 00:09:16,424 --> 00:09:19,226 And he was on the Science and Technology Committee 153 00:09:19,260 --> 00:09:21,362 of the House of Representatives. 154 00:09:21,395 --> 00:09:23,798 So that kind of stuff does happen. 155 00:09:23,831 --> 00:09:26,934 Unfortunately, he didn't notify me of this. 156 00:09:26,967 --> 00:09:28,803 So, you know, it happened and then he backed off. 157 00:09:28,836 --> 00:09:31,105 And I think that's one of the real problems. 158 00:09:31,138 --> 00:09:33,641 I mean, there i lethal force threatened. 159 00:09:33,674 --> 00:09:36,343 There's all kinds of intimidation. 160 00:09:36,377 --> 00:09:39,914 I've had people break into my home. 161 00:09:39,947 --> 00:09:42,016 I have had people break into my condo here 162 00:09:42,049 --> 00:09:43,818 and just move things around 163 00:09:43,851 --> 00:09:46,020 to let them know we can get in here anytime we want. 164 00:09:46,053 --> 00:09:49,156 And I think for a lot of people who are elected officials, 165 00:09:49,190 --> 00:09:51,325 and they start running into this, 166 00:09:51,358 --> 00:09:54,261 they don't realize what kind of buzz saw is out there. 167 00:09:54,295 --> 00:09:57,731 You know, how serious these guys have been about keeping the secret. 168 00:09:57,765 --> 00:10:01,068 So, you know, a couple of days ago, 169 00:10:01,102 --> 00:10:04,171 I was on an encrypted messaging system 170 00:10:04,205 --> 00:10:08,008 with a top-secret guy who was wanting to come forward. 171 00:10:08,042 --> 00:10:12,680 And in real time, he was sending me video of Black Hawks that were circling his house 172 00:10:12,713 --> 00:10:16,283 out in the middle of nowhere, way out in the upper Midwest. 173 00:10:16,317 --> 00:10:19,620 So that really does happen. 174 00:10:19,653 --> 00:10:25,292 But, you know, most of those enforcement issues, 175 00:10:25,326 --> 00:10:27,895 you're not going to see it at the situation room 176 00:10:27,928 --> 00:10:32,099 in the White House or a skiff up on Capitol Hill. 177 00:10:32,133 --> 00:10:33,602 MAN: [ON RADIO] Eagle has landed. 178 00:10:33,634 --> 00:10:35,604 REPORTER: Tonight, NASA's accepting a mission that so far 179 00:10:35,636 --> 00:10:38,607 has proven harder than landing a man on the moon. 180 00:10:40,474 --> 00:10:42,276 INTERVIEWER: What's your thoughts like now 181 00:10:42,309 --> 00:10:45,246 NASA is getting into the game of UFO hunting? 182 00:10:45,279 --> 00:10:49,450 The release from NASA was that they are going to allocate $100,000 to look into this. 183 00:10:49,483 --> 00:10:51,152 Let me explain how... 184 00:10:51,185 --> 00:10:53,387 $100,000 will get you two paper clips. 185 00:10:53,854 --> 00:10:54,989 Maybe. 186 00:10:55,022 --> 00:10:57,758 So, again, I don't think anything serious 187 00:10:57,791 --> 00:11:00,394 is going to be done by NASA. 188 00:11:00,427 --> 00:11:07,134 My understanding is they're doing things to check off a box. 189 00:11:07,168 --> 00:11:10,104 But, there is an investigation that we can talk about 190 00:11:10,137 --> 00:11:13,542 that is very effective and it's working 191 00:11:13,575 --> 00:11:17,144 and that is really getting to the bottom of it, 192 00:11:17,178 --> 00:11:18,946 it is not at NASA. 193 00:11:18,979 --> 00:11:22,049 If you're seeing it in the media or on politico, or on the Internet. 194 00:11:22,082 --> 00:11:26,220 those are all things that they are just wanting to check boxes 195 00:11:26,253 --> 00:11:27,488 so that members of Congress 196 00:11:27,522 --> 00:11:29,190 feel like they're doing something. 197 00:11:29,223 --> 00:11:30,659 It's like, I grew up in the South, 198 00:11:30,691 --> 00:11:32,627 they say, "Look busy, Jesus is coming". 199 00:11:32,661 --> 00:11:36,330 There is this whole mindset of you just do busy work. 200 00:11:36,363 --> 00:11:39,500 So the Pentagon office, this NASA initiative, 201 00:11:40,334 --> 00:11:41,802 I would like to be proven wrong, 202 00:11:41,835 --> 00:11:44,371 and certainly if those guys invited me in 203 00:11:44,405 --> 00:11:48,275 to get actionable intelligence, detailed information 204 00:11:48,309 --> 00:11:51,845 I'd absolutely do it, but we'll see. 205 00:11:51,879 --> 00:11:55,115 I mean, you know, a broken clock is right twice a day, 206 00:11:55,149 --> 00:11:57,451 it's possible that they will actually do something, 207 00:11:57,484 --> 00:12:00,721 but they're not going to do anything with $100,000. 208 00:12:00,754 --> 00:12:04,526 Which is why in their release it said they were going to allocate. 209 00:12:05,459 --> 00:12:08,329 Is NASA being straight with us? 210 00:12:08,362 --> 00:12:10,431 -I don't know... -Apparently, they're getting 211 00:12:10,464 --> 00:12:12,199 into the UFO hunt right now, too, they say. 212 00:12:12,233 --> 00:12:16,538 They are. They are. The American public turns it up. 213 00:12:16,571 --> 00:12:18,072 Not only the Tim Burchetts of the world. 214 00:12:18,105 --> 00:12:19,473 I'm already there. 215 00:12:19,507 --> 00:12:21,809 I know we got to do something. We better find out. 216 00:12:21,842 --> 00:12:23,744 I think we need to find out. 217 00:12:23,777 --> 00:12:27,481 With this evidence coming in from NASA, 218 00:12:27,515 --> 00:12:30,851 for the years of third phase alone, we've been keeping a close eye on them. 219 00:12:30,884 --> 00:12:35,256 They're one of the most biggest archives of the UFO phenomenon that exist right now. 220 00:12:35,289 --> 00:12:38,392 -BURCHETT: Right. -We could tell NASA, "Go back to this date, 221 00:12:38,425 --> 00:12:41,596 go back to this ISS footage and let's start there". 222 00:12:41,630 --> 00:12:45,567 And again, we have hundreds of videos from NASA themselves 223 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,802 that they refused to explain to the public what they captured. 224 00:12:48,836 --> 00:12:52,006 How can we change the narrative of NASA 225 00:12:52,039 --> 00:12:54,775 to be a little bit more of straight answers 226 00:12:54,808 --> 00:12:56,377 instead of never a straight answer? 227 00:12:56,410 --> 00:12:58,613 We've got to get more people than me 228 00:12:58,647 --> 00:13:01,782 in Congress that are going to ask those tough questions. 229 00:13:01,815 --> 00:13:06,854 You know, we're talking about NASA and what NASA hasn't done all these years 230 00:13:06,887 --> 00:13:08,556 since the last time we were on the moon. 231 00:13:08,590 --> 00:13:10,858 You know, they want to go into the UFO studies. 232 00:13:10,891 --> 00:13:15,195 They have thousands of images that have been taken by the astronauts, 233 00:13:15,229 --> 00:13:17,031 either at the International Space Station, 234 00:13:17,064 --> 00:13:18,667 or on the shuttle, 235 00:13:18,700 --> 00:13:24,438 or even going back to Germany and Apollo. 236 00:13:24,471 --> 00:13:27,308 So, you know, for them to just get into it, 237 00:13:27,341 --> 00:13:29,243 you know, say they're getting into it now, 238 00:13:29,276 --> 00:13:32,747 why haven't they been investigating it since they were formed? 239 00:13:32,781 --> 00:13:34,616 That's their job. 240 00:13:34,649 --> 00:13:37,519 I think it's really exciting. It almost feels like opening a new book. 241 00:13:37,552 --> 00:13:40,921 MAN: NASA's, announcement, coming on the heels of a new office set-up at the Pentagon 242 00:13:40,954 --> 00:13:43,257 to investigate top secret encounters 243 00:13:43,290 --> 00:13:46,093 between pilots and unidentified aerial phenomenon. 244 00:13:46,126 --> 00:13:52,433 What you get is a double-speak, you never get a straight answer. 245 00:13:52,466 --> 00:13:56,003 NASA reports to us. We're their employer. 246 00:13:56,036 --> 00:13:57,505 They've lost credibility. 247 00:13:57,539 --> 00:13:59,674 We're falling by the wayside. 248 00:13:59,708 --> 00:14:02,811 And our federal government is failing us. 249 00:14:02,843 --> 00:14:04,244 MAN: As for what they are... 250 00:14:04,278 --> 00:14:06,614 So far, we've seen NASA say that there is no evidence 251 00:14:06,648 --> 00:14:08,248 that this is extraterrestrial life. 252 00:14:08,282 --> 00:14:12,554 But does that mean that it's not extraterrestrial life? 253 00:14:12,587 --> 00:14:14,021 I'm a scientist. 254 00:14:14,054 --> 00:14:16,791 And if somebody asked me, is this extraterrestrial life? 255 00:14:16,825 --> 00:14:19,761 Frankly, at this moment in time, the simple answer is the right one, 256 00:14:19,794 --> 00:14:21,563 which is, I don't know. 257 00:14:21,596 --> 00:14:23,464 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING] 258 00:14:28,570 --> 00:14:32,239 The fact that this office just said that they're only going 259 00:14:32,272 --> 00:14:36,578 to investigate UFOs that are not man-made. 260 00:14:37,512 --> 00:14:39,880 Right? What that tells you is that 261 00:14:41,115 --> 00:14:44,586 my message, your message, 262 00:14:44,619 --> 00:14:47,020 and message of many other people that we know, 263 00:14:47,054 --> 00:14:54,395 these tic tacs are actually man-made vehicles, devices. 264 00:14:54,428 --> 00:14:56,865 That message has gotten back to them. 265 00:14:56,897 --> 00:15:00,334 [CHUCKLES] It's gotten back to them, and so now they are 266 00:15:00,367 --> 00:15:04,104 experiencing a lot of loss of traction. 267 00:15:04,138 --> 00:15:07,307 MAN: And is this one of the phenomena that we can't explain? 268 00:15:07,341 --> 00:15:13,347 I do not have an explanation for what this specific object is. 269 00:15:13,380 --> 00:15:15,015 When I say we can't explain, 270 00:15:15,048 --> 00:15:17,184 I mean exactly as you described there, 271 00:15:17,217 --> 00:15:19,086 that there is a lot of information, 272 00:15:19,119 --> 00:15:22,156 like the video that we showed, in which there's simply too little data 273 00:15:22,189 --> 00:15:25,058 to create a reasonable explanation. 274 00:15:25,092 --> 00:15:29,396 When I say unexplained, I mean everything from too little data 275 00:15:29,430 --> 00:15:34,134 to simply the data that we have doesn't point us towards an explanation. 276 00:15:34,168 --> 00:15:38,606 What I call Operation Fail Safe are all of these tic tacs, 277 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:43,444 all of these UAPs sometimes called UATs. 278 00:15:43,477 --> 00:15:46,046 'T' is for threat, all right? 279 00:15:46,079 --> 00:15:47,715 They're losing a lot of traction. 280 00:15:47,749 --> 00:15:50,250 And the momentum that they had, 281 00:15:50,284 --> 00:15:53,086 you know, I don't know, like six months ago 282 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,558 when this was all going to come out in congressional committee hearings, 283 00:15:56,591 --> 00:15:58,793 and records and the NIDs, 284 00:15:58,827 --> 00:16:01,763 was the National Intelligence Director 285 00:16:01,796 --> 00:16:05,132 was going to answer a lot of questions, and release a lot of information. 286 00:16:05,165 --> 00:16:08,903 All this stuff added up to basically nothing. 287 00:16:08,937 --> 00:16:10,404 Added up to nothing. 288 00:16:10,437 --> 00:16:12,139 And now they're realizing it. 289 00:16:12,172 --> 00:16:15,577 So now they're trying to follow... 290 00:16:15,610 --> 00:16:16,911 They're going to follow the same narrative 291 00:16:16,945 --> 00:16:18,412 and the narrative is going to be, 292 00:16:18,445 --> 00:16:23,751 "Hey, we have nothing to do with man-made UAPs. 293 00:16:23,785 --> 00:16:25,587 We're not looking into that at all. 294 00:16:25,620 --> 00:16:28,355 That's not even a factor in stuff we're doing." 295 00:16:28,388 --> 00:16:31,358 And they're saying it expressly, 296 00:16:31,391 --> 00:16:33,895 but in an indirect way, 297 00:16:33,928 --> 00:16:37,599 all of these things that we're studying, that we're looking at, 298 00:16:37,632 --> 00:16:40,167 they're all extraterrestrial. 299 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,605 They're all interdimensional also. 300 00:16:43,638 --> 00:16:48,776 They're genuine alien vehicles, let's say. 301 00:16:48,810 --> 00:16:52,947 They're not man-made, no matter what. 302 00:16:52,981 --> 00:16:56,049 And I don't think that's really going to... 303 00:16:56,083 --> 00:16:58,085 that's not really going to help them too much 304 00:16:58,118 --> 00:16:59,654 in the long run, 305 00:16:59,687 --> 00:17:03,257 because there've been so many people 306 00:17:03,290 --> 00:17:06,460 that have been looking at these videos, been looking at these things, 307 00:17:06,493 --> 00:17:10,899 we see no clues that lead us to the conclusion 308 00:17:10,932 --> 00:17:13,868 that this is definitely extraterrestrial. 309 00:17:15,035 --> 00:17:17,137 It looks man-made. It just does. 310 00:17:17,170 --> 00:17:19,674 And that's going to be haunting them now. 311 00:17:19,707 --> 00:17:21,876 Moving forward, from here forward. 312 00:17:21,910 --> 00:17:25,379 And what they say gives it away. Gives it away. 313 00:17:25,412 --> 00:17:27,314 They are very concerned about that. 314 00:17:27,347 --> 00:17:32,052 Through our own ability to capture some of these UFO craft, 315 00:17:32,085 --> 00:17:34,656 I believe that the U.S. Military 316 00:17:34,689 --> 00:17:38,091 and maybe even other militaries and other countries 317 00:17:38,125 --> 00:17:41,996 have captured a few of these and have been reverse-engineering UFOs 318 00:17:42,030 --> 00:17:43,565 for quite some time. 319 00:17:43,598 --> 00:17:46,199 I believe that the actual incident that happened in Roswell 320 00:17:46,233 --> 00:17:49,403 was a UFO that was brought down by a scalar weapon. 321 00:17:49,436 --> 00:17:52,339 We actually brought the UFO craft down. 322 00:17:52,372 --> 00:17:55,108 They disoriented its control system and brought it down. 323 00:17:55,142 --> 00:17:58,211 And so by doing this, we were able to capture that device and take it 324 00:17:58,245 --> 00:17:59,747 to a top secret military base, 325 00:17:59,781 --> 00:18:02,951 and start to try to figure out how to reverse-engineer it. 326 00:18:02,984 --> 00:18:05,787 There have been people who have come out talking about the fact 327 00:18:05,820 --> 00:18:11,759 that Velcro, fiber optics, and microchips all came from the reverse-engineering 328 00:18:11,793 --> 00:18:14,562 from 1947 of the Roswell Craft. 329 00:18:14,596 --> 00:18:20,100 I've talked to people that have handled material, that have stated that it is 330 00:18:20,133 --> 00:18:22,102 something different. 331 00:18:22,135 --> 00:18:28,543 That they can break it down pretty much into what it was. 332 00:18:28,576 --> 00:18:33,681 But how it was layered and how it was attached, 333 00:18:33,715 --> 00:18:39,152 without, you know, blending too much is still a mystery. 334 00:18:39,186 --> 00:18:41,756 -And... -Is this crash retrieval? Is this crash retrieval? 335 00:18:41,789 --> 00:18:44,124 I thought it was. They thought it was. 336 00:18:44,157 --> 00:18:46,126 But there again, 337 00:18:46,159 --> 00:18:49,129 you have to be real careful with that stuff because, 338 00:18:49,162 --> 00:18:53,935 you know, you spend a million dollars chasing something and analyzing it, 339 00:18:53,968 --> 00:18:56,904 and it's something that's been created in a lab. 340 00:18:56,938 --> 00:19:01,609 And they're just trying to chase us down another long path. 341 00:19:01,643 --> 00:19:05,278 When it comes to material that we have, e have no material. 342 00:19:05,312 --> 00:19:11,418 We have detected no emanations within the UAP task force that is... 343 00:19:11,451 --> 00:19:15,790 that would suggest it's anything non-terrestrial in origin. 344 00:19:15,823 --> 00:19:18,126 So when I say unexplained, 345 00:19:18,158 --> 00:19:21,294 I mean everything from too little data 346 00:19:21,328 --> 00:19:25,733 to simply the data that we have doesn't point us towards an explanation. 347 00:19:25,767 --> 00:19:27,602 But we'll go wherever the data takes us. 348 00:19:27,635 --> 00:19:30,138 Again, we make no assumptions about what this is or isn't. 349 00:19:30,170 --> 00:19:32,106 We are committed to understanding these, 350 00:19:32,140 --> 00:19:34,341 and so we'll go wherever that data takes us. 351 00:19:34,374 --> 00:19:38,478 Are we going to have more UFO Congress hearings coming up in the future here? 352 00:19:38,513 --> 00:19:39,947 I doubt it. 353 00:19:39,981 --> 00:19:41,348 [CHUCKLES] 354 00:19:41,381 --> 00:19:43,885 You know, is there anything else that stood out to you? 355 00:19:43,918 --> 00:19:50,290 Yes. I mean, at 51 minutes, you have Scott Bray, ONI, Office Naval Intelligence, say, 356 00:19:50,323 --> 00:19:53,027 "When it comes to material that we have, 357 00:19:53,061 --> 00:19:55,495 nothing would suggest non-terrestrial origin." 358 00:19:55,530 --> 00:19:59,801 A number of these UAPs, you said, "We can't explain." 359 00:19:59,834 --> 00:20:03,771 Again, in the service of sort of reducing speculation 360 00:20:03,805 --> 00:20:06,741 and conspiracy theories, "We can't explain," 361 00:20:06,774 --> 00:20:12,146 can range from a visual observation that was distant on a foggy night, 362 00:20:12,180 --> 00:20:14,448 we don't know what it is, 363 00:20:14,481 --> 00:20:17,952 to we found an organic material that we can't identify, right? 364 00:20:17,985 --> 00:20:20,320 Those are radically different worlds. 365 00:20:20,353 --> 00:20:23,024 So, when you say we can't explain, 366 00:20:23,057 --> 00:20:25,760 give the public a little bit better sense 367 00:20:25,793 --> 00:20:28,896 of where on that spectrum of we can't explain we are. 368 00:20:28,930 --> 00:20:33,067 Are we holding materials, organic or inorganic, that we don't know about? 369 00:20:33,101 --> 00:20:35,503 Are we, you know, picking up emanations 370 00:20:35,536 --> 00:20:38,106 that are something other than light or infrared 371 00:20:38,139 --> 00:20:40,041 that could be deemed to be communications? 372 00:20:40,074 --> 00:20:43,376 Give us a sense for what you mean when you say we can't explain. 373 00:20:43,410 --> 00:20:45,213 Sure, when I say we can't explain, 374 00:20:45,245 --> 00:20:47,314 I mean exactly as you described there, 375 00:20:47,347 --> 00:20:48,883 that there is a lot of information, 376 00:20:48,916 --> 00:20:50,484 like the video that we showed, 377 00:20:50,518 --> 00:20:52,687 in which there's simply too little data. 378 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,889 BILLY: Well, recently, there were some congressional hearings 379 00:20:54,922 --> 00:21:00,393 where they actually had active military basically testifying before Congress 380 00:21:00,427 --> 00:21:03,064 that they had encounters with UFOs and UAPs. 381 00:21:03,097 --> 00:21:04,766 They're call 'em UAPs now. 382 00:21:04,799 --> 00:21:07,835 [CHUCKLES] And what's interesting is they even had 11 encounters 383 00:21:07,869 --> 00:21:10,772 where they almost had an impact with these things, it almost crashed into them. 384 00:21:10,805 --> 00:21:13,174 They've been caught on radar, they've been heavily tracked. 385 00:21:13,207 --> 00:21:15,610 And, admittedly, by the Pentagon, 386 00:21:15,643 --> 00:21:19,847 they are able to make maneuvers that we cannot even conceive of doing right now 387 00:21:19,881 --> 00:21:21,182 with our current technology. 388 00:21:21,215 --> 00:21:23,918 And so the reason why all the redaction is there 389 00:21:23,951 --> 00:21:26,754 is because they don't want the public to know truly 390 00:21:26,788 --> 00:21:28,890 how sophisticated these things really are, 391 00:21:28,923 --> 00:21:32,093 and also to add a little tiny bit of questioning 392 00:21:32,126 --> 00:21:35,596 as to whether they are ours or if they are UFOs. 393 00:21:35,630 --> 00:21:37,532 In other words, they're claiming that these things exist, 394 00:21:37,565 --> 00:21:38,633 but at the same time, 395 00:21:38,666 --> 00:21:39,967 they're not officially really stating, 396 00:21:40,001 --> 00:21:42,069 "Yes, these are alien craft from another world." 397 00:21:42,103 --> 00:21:44,471 What they want to do is keep that question mark there. 398 00:21:44,505 --> 00:21:46,240 By keeping the question mark, 399 00:21:46,274 --> 00:21:49,076 they keep control of the narrative, and by controlling the narrative, 400 00:21:49,110 --> 00:21:51,946 they control the money from the general population. 401 00:21:51,979 --> 00:21:55,315 So, right now, we have the Space Force, which now is going to be allowed 402 00:21:55,348 --> 00:22:01,289 to extract trillions of dollars into projects that they can now claim are to protect Earth 403 00:22:01,321 --> 00:22:03,291 from these unknown, these UAPs. 404 00:22:03,323 --> 00:22:07,494 And so it really is another driving force of creating revenue for the military, 405 00:22:07,528 --> 00:22:11,132 because right now there's no more wars on the planet. There's nobody else to fight. 406 00:22:11,165 --> 00:22:13,868 We brought "democracy to everybody, 407 00:22:13,901 --> 00:22:15,970 and now we've turned everything into dust. 408 00:22:16,003 --> 00:22:21,309 And now the only way we can make more money in military is to take the war to space. 409 00:22:21,341 --> 00:22:25,279 It's the crash retrievals that are the Rosetta Stone 410 00:22:25,313 --> 00:22:28,249 for solving the UFO cover-up 411 00:22:28,282 --> 00:22:30,585 or the cosmic Watergate, as it's called. 412 00:22:30,618 --> 00:22:32,220 Because it's the crash retrievals 413 00:22:32,253 --> 00:22:34,055 that have all the evidence we need. 414 00:22:34,088 --> 00:22:38,526 The bodies, the debris, the craft, the autopsies, the reports, 415 00:22:38,559 --> 00:22:42,462 the eight-by-ten glossy black and whites, the gun camera footage. 416 00:22:42,495 --> 00:22:45,032 It's all wrapped around the crash retrieval. 417 00:22:45,066 --> 00:22:48,502 So if we can, as a group of ufologists, 418 00:22:48,536 --> 00:22:51,239 get access to that debris, 419 00:22:51,272 --> 00:22:54,141 the bodies, the craft, then we can change the world, 420 00:22:54,175 --> 00:22:56,744 but it has to be handed over to the scientific community 421 00:22:56,777 --> 00:23:00,314 as a united coalition so that they can third-party, 422 00:23:00,348 --> 00:23:03,383 independently verify what we're looking at here. 423 00:23:03,416 --> 00:23:05,519 Because, we could be looking at hoaxes, 424 00:23:05,553 --> 00:23:08,522 we could be looking at red herrings off to the side. 425 00:23:08,556 --> 00:23:10,825 These guys are very good at keeping secrets. 426 00:23:10,858 --> 00:23:15,296 So we need a third-party independent source to verify this, 427 00:23:15,329 --> 00:23:17,665 and then we can come up with. 428 00:23:17,698 --> 00:23:22,336 Yeah. Well, you know, one of the most ridiculous parts of this NASA 429 00:23:22,370 --> 00:23:25,072 getting into the UFO business. 430 00:23:25,106 --> 00:23:28,743 Yeah. They made the statement that they are not going to... 431 00:23:28,776 --> 00:23:31,411 Everything to do with man-made UFOs. 432 00:23:31,444 --> 00:23:33,514 How in the heck do you know if it's man-made 433 00:23:33,547 --> 00:23:37,318 unless you investigate it? Unless you have some good imagery? 434 00:23:37,351 --> 00:23:39,687 So the fact that we don't have anything sharp, 435 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,589 we don't everything definitive, 436 00:23:41,622 --> 00:23:44,058 of what, A UFO or a UAP? 437 00:23:44,091 --> 00:23:46,093 It's a freaking flying saucer. 438 00:23:48,529 --> 00:23:53,801 And for NASA to have all this stuff in their files already, 439 00:23:53,834 --> 00:23:55,903 it makes no sense. 440 00:23:55,937 --> 00:23:59,974 It's really an insult to those of us that have been digging. 441 00:24:00,007 --> 00:24:03,678 Those of us, you know, who have spent 442 00:24:03,711 --> 00:24:06,479 time and energy trying to track this stuff down, 443 00:24:06,514 --> 00:24:10,985 and we're just getting nothing but double-talk from NASA. 444 00:24:11,018 --> 00:24:12,687 They're not doing their job. 445 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,357 They're not producing products that we bought and paid for. 446 00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:18,458 Let me ask you this. 447 00:24:18,491 --> 00:24:22,196 This is kind of a new news that is been developing the language in Washington. 448 00:24:22,229 --> 00:24:25,766 They have their new UFO office that they're setting up. 449 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,869 I guess it got, I don't know, some kind of budget. 450 00:24:28,903 --> 00:24:31,405 It's pretty small, but they've made a statement 451 00:24:31,439 --> 00:24:34,976 saying that they're not going to investigate man-made objects, 452 00:24:35,009 --> 00:24:36,711 the man-made UFOs. 453 00:24:36,744 --> 00:24:39,880 What does this tell you in regards to 454 00:24:39,914 --> 00:24:43,851 the possibility that humans ourselves, 455 00:24:43,884 --> 00:24:47,521 a private corporation, have cracked the code in propulsion, 456 00:24:47,555 --> 00:24:51,525 and it just so happens that you may capture these on your instruments? 457 00:24:51,559 --> 00:24:55,830 But what if these UFOs could be man-made 458 00:24:55,863 --> 00:24:57,598 and now they're just kind of rolling that out, 459 00:24:57,631 --> 00:24:59,900 that they don't want to investigate anything 460 00:24:59,934 --> 00:25:01,969 that's man-made? 461 00:25:02,003 --> 00:25:05,740 But, again, what if there is something that is out there, such as a tic tac, 462 00:25:05,773 --> 00:25:09,677 that is man-made and you so happened to capture that on your instruments, 463 00:25:09,710 --> 00:25:13,347 would you report that to the public? 464 00:25:13,381 --> 00:25:16,650 No. I mean, if it looks like it's human-made, I'd be glad 465 00:25:16,684 --> 00:25:19,754 to deliver it to Washington D.C. without analyzing it. 466 00:25:19,787 --> 00:25:21,622 It is not of interest to me. 467 00:25:21,655 --> 00:25:24,091 NASA or Galileo Project, 468 00:25:24,125 --> 00:25:30,031 if they were to capture something in our solar system, like a craft approaching Earth, 469 00:25:30,064 --> 00:25:32,500 would they be able to get that out to the public right away, 470 00:25:32,533 --> 00:25:34,235 or would national security kick in? 471 00:25:36,570 --> 00:25:39,640 Well, it depends on who's funding them and what kind of contract they have. 472 00:25:39,673 --> 00:25:42,476 Again, I think it's going to have to be somebody who's going to have to leak it. 473 00:25:43,577 --> 00:25:45,046 Somebody's gonna have to leak it. 474 00:25:45,079 --> 00:25:47,948 -And just put it out... -And risk prosecution. 475 00:25:47,982 --> 00:25:49,083 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING] 476 00:25:54,355 --> 00:25:55,689 DR. GREER: So, what everyone needs to know 477 00:25:55,723 --> 00:25:58,159 is that there is now an official mechanism 478 00:25:58,192 --> 00:26:00,027 for whistleblowers 479 00:26:00,061 --> 00:26:02,863 and people who are under nondisclosure agreements, 480 00:26:03,564 --> 00:26:05,099 to come forward. 481 00:26:05,132 --> 00:26:10,838 And that law makes a pathway for people to come forward. 482 00:26:10,871 --> 00:26:14,408 Now, the problem is, you know, politico and a lot of news organizations 483 00:26:14,442 --> 00:26:15,976 have had stories about that. 484 00:26:16,010 --> 00:26:18,446 But those folks, who are they going to contact? 485 00:26:19,113 --> 00:26:20,381 So what I am saying... 486 00:26:20,414 --> 00:26:21,849 I'm making an appeal here. 487 00:26:23,784 --> 00:26:26,454 They should contact me at our website, 488 00:26:26,487 --> 00:26:30,858 siriusdisclosure.com. S-I-R-I-U-S disclosure.com 489 00:26:30,891 --> 00:26:34,128 There's a contact box just for witnesses, 490 00:26:34,161 --> 00:26:38,232 military whistleblowers, and that will get passed on to me. 491 00:26:38,265 --> 00:26:42,870 And then I can bring those people to the correct folks here in Washington 492 00:26:42,903 --> 00:26:46,140 who are in charge of this investigation. 493 00:26:46,173 --> 00:26:49,310 Because, most people would try to contact the Pentagon office. 494 00:26:49,343 --> 00:26:50,778 That's not where anything is happening. 495 00:26:51,278 --> 00:26:53,147 All right? Um... 496 00:26:53,180 --> 00:26:57,586 So, the folks I'm working with are involved with intelligence and military 497 00:26:57,618 --> 00:26:59,253 and those committees, 498 00:26:59,286 --> 00:27:01,556 National Security Council, etc. 499 00:27:01,590 --> 00:27:04,058 And they are the ones who actually are going the distance 500 00:27:04,091 --> 00:27:06,627 and drilling the deepest on this. 501 00:27:06,660 --> 00:27:10,131 And in the last year, since I've been providing 502 00:27:10,164 --> 00:27:13,367 really specific intelligence 503 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,803 and introducing them to certain key people, 504 00:27:15,836 --> 00:27:18,239 they've actually gotten dozens of people to come forward, 505 00:27:18,272 --> 00:27:22,143 and there is actually a whistleblower suit proceeding, but it's been... 506 00:27:22,176 --> 00:27:24,278 It is very classified, at this point. 507 00:27:24,311 --> 00:27:26,581 So that's really big news. 508 00:27:26,615 --> 00:27:30,017 Because, in my 32 years of working on this issue, 509 00:27:30,050 --> 00:27:33,320 you know, having met with all kinds of folks 510 00:27:33,354 --> 00:27:34,788 over the years, 511 00:27:34,822 --> 00:27:38,259 it's only in the last six, eight months, maybe a year, 512 00:27:38,292 --> 00:27:41,095 that this, what I just said, has been even a possibility. 513 00:27:41,128 --> 00:27:43,797 No one has ever taken it this far before. 514 00:27:43,831 --> 00:27:48,035 And the reason it happened is that there is a more clandestine group 515 00:27:48,068 --> 00:27:50,771 that are on the right side of disclosing this, 516 00:27:50,804 --> 00:27:54,341 that are doing it under the authority of the bill that was passed, 517 00:27:54,375 --> 00:27:58,312 And, in fact, a couple of them actually helped write that bill. 518 00:27:58,345 --> 00:28:01,348 So I think this is a really exciting development. 519 00:28:01,382 --> 00:28:02,683 It's very good news. 520 00:28:02,716 --> 00:28:05,620 Now... a footnote. 521 00:28:05,654 --> 00:28:10,791 You know, the U.S. Government moves at the speed of molasses in winter, 522 00:28:10,824 --> 00:28:15,530 And, you know, I caution people that it's a process 523 00:28:15,564 --> 00:28:17,932 I think it's going to be a year or two, 524 00:28:17,965 --> 00:28:23,037 but, you know, and the fact that I've been doing this for 32 years, 525 00:28:23,070 --> 00:28:24,972 that's the speed of light. 526 00:28:25,005 --> 00:28:29,443 You know, because, frankly, before right now, 527 00:28:29,476 --> 00:28:31,513 when I've provided materials to the President 528 00:28:31,546 --> 00:28:33,480 or to other members of the Congress... 529 00:28:33,515 --> 00:28:36,551 I mean, back in the '90s and early 2000s, I briefed members 530 00:28:36,585 --> 00:28:38,319 of the Senate Intelligence Committee 531 00:28:38,352 --> 00:28:41,021 and chairmen of committees in the House, 532 00:28:41,055 --> 00:28:42,691 no one wanted to pursue this. 533 00:28:42,723 --> 00:28:45,292 And there wasn't a mechanism for them to, 534 00:28:45,326 --> 00:28:47,361 that was a legal mechanism. 535 00:28:47,394 --> 00:28:49,797 You know, because if they made an inquire 536 00:28:49,830 --> 00:28:51,566 they'd be saying, you know, "It's none of your business. 537 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,334 You don't have a clearance." 538 00:28:53,367 --> 00:28:57,071 Well, now there is a mechanism where it's actually mandated by law 539 00:28:57,104 --> 00:28:59,507 that the Director of National Intelligence 540 00:28:59,541 --> 00:29:01,875 and the government provide material 541 00:29:01,909 --> 00:29:04,646 to these oversight committees of the Congress. 542 00:29:04,679 --> 00:29:06,113 That's very different. 543 00:29:06,146 --> 00:29:09,517 That's a whole new ball game, so that's really exciting. 544 00:29:09,551 --> 00:29:12,853 And I think that's a door that is open now. 545 00:29:12,886 --> 00:29:14,855 I don't predict how long that door will be open. 546 00:29:14,888 --> 00:29:16,423 It could close like that. 547 00:29:16,457 --> 00:29:19,594 I mean, so we want to move through that door 548 00:29:19,628 --> 00:29:24,231 with as much information, whistleblowers, evidence. 549 00:29:24,265 --> 00:29:28,769 The other thing is that our group separately, 550 00:29:28,802 --> 00:29:32,540 the Disclosure Project in 1997 and '98, 551 00:29:32,574 --> 00:29:36,443 declared these illegally-run classified projects, 552 00:29:36,477 --> 00:29:39,079 a criminal organization. 553 00:29:39,113 --> 00:29:43,017 And we stated that anybody who has information, 554 00:29:43,050 --> 00:29:47,254 documents, materials, are free to speak. 555 00:29:48,022 --> 00:29:50,391 To us and to the public. 556 00:29:50,424 --> 00:29:55,429 That was a letter that is called Unless Otherwise Directed Letter. 557 00:29:55,462 --> 00:29:57,298 UNOD. 558 00:29:57,331 --> 00:29:59,601 And my military advisers said, "Look, this is how you have to do this." 559 00:29:59,634 --> 00:30:02,469 So the way it's worded is: unless directed otherwise, 560 00:30:02,504 --> 00:30:04,506 this is our assessment. 561 00:30:04,539 --> 00:30:06,407 These projects are being run illegally. 562 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,277 Therefore, we can disclose any document, classified or not, 563 00:30:10,311 --> 00:30:12,446 any testimony or material. 564 00:30:13,682 --> 00:30:16,083 You know, mat was of parts, 565 00:30:16,116 --> 00:30:19,453 um, without penalty of the law. 566 00:30:19,486 --> 00:30:25,459 And from 1998, which I gave them a 60-day period to respond, 567 00:30:25,492 --> 00:30:29,463 to now, no one has ever contradicted that assessment. 568 00:30:29,496 --> 00:30:32,734 And in fact, the people now that I have been meeting with know 569 00:30:32,767 --> 00:30:35,469 that what I said about that is 100% true. 570 00:30:35,503 --> 00:30:38,506 That the projects that are being operating, 571 00:30:38,540 --> 00:30:41,810 dealing with the UFO, UAP issue, 572 00:30:41,842 --> 00:30:43,410 all that has been run 573 00:30:43,444 --> 00:30:46,715 completely illegally without oversight. 574 00:30:46,748 --> 00:30:50,184 And where the thuggery of threatening even officials, 575 00:30:50,217 --> 00:30:52,986 as I mentioned, a member of Congress that I briefed, 576 00:30:53,020 --> 00:30:56,256 being threatened with he and his family being killed. 577 00:30:56,290 --> 00:30:59,159 So, that is the sort of thing that, 578 00:30:59,193 --> 00:31:01,195 you now crossed the line. 579 00:31:01,228 --> 00:31:05,065 You're outside the umbrella of the Constitution and the rule of law. 580 00:31:05,099 --> 00:31:08,570 Therefore, they're playing naked, and that's what we've been saying. 581 00:31:08,603 --> 00:31:12,674 But, what I said in '97 and '98, 582 00:31:12,707 --> 00:31:17,411 which was the foundation of this first group of military whistleblowers 583 00:31:17,444 --> 00:31:19,814 to come forward in 2001 584 00:31:19,848 --> 00:31:23,317 with the Disclosure Project here in D.C., 585 00:31:23,350 --> 00:31:24,885 at the National Press Club. 586 00:31:24,918 --> 00:31:29,657 That's now gotten to the point where it's enshrined in the law. 587 00:31:29,691 --> 00:31:31,793 And so that's a really big development. 588 00:31:31,826 --> 00:31:34,094 Because, before, it was a civilian 589 00:31:34,128 --> 00:31:37,064 with no standing, making this statement. 590 00:31:37,097 --> 00:31:39,133 And for a lot of military guys, they say, 591 00:31:39,166 --> 00:31:40,568 "Well, that's probably legally true, 592 00:31:40,602 --> 00:31:43,036 because we ran it past our constitutional attorneys. 593 00:31:43,904 --> 00:31:45,540 But I'm still afraid." 594 00:31:45,573 --> 00:31:48,777 Well, now I can say, now there's people to give you protection 595 00:31:49,410 --> 00:31:51,078 and a mechanism. 596 00:31:51,111 --> 00:31:53,914 So if we are ever going to get this resolved, here's the window. 597 00:31:53,947 --> 00:31:54,883 Let's move through it. 598 00:31:56,483 --> 00:31:57,985 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING] 599 00:32:06,393 --> 00:32:07,762 JAMES: You know, the commander of NORAD, 600 00:32:07,796 --> 00:32:10,964 which is the North American Air Defense Command, 601 00:32:10,998 --> 00:32:16,738 it's jointly managed by both Canadian and U.S. forces. 602 00:32:16,771 --> 00:32:20,941 He said that, you know, there are systems 603 00:32:20,974 --> 00:32:25,847 which are designed to thwart a Soviet attack or a Russian attack, 604 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,717 or now, a Chinese attack on our mainland. 605 00:32:29,751 --> 00:32:31,251 So they haven't picked up anything 606 00:32:31,285 --> 00:32:33,454 they consider extraterrestrial. 607 00:32:33,487 --> 00:32:35,389 How do you know it's not an alien craft? 608 00:32:35,422 --> 00:32:40,260 How do you know it's not something that the Lockheed Skunk Works created 609 00:32:40,294 --> 00:32:44,899 or the Boeing McDonnell Douglas Phantom Works? 610 00:32:44,933 --> 00:32:47,201 We don't know. 611 00:32:47,234 --> 00:32:52,306 Recently, the commander of NORAD actually stated that they have no evidence of UFOs or aliens. 612 00:32:52,339 --> 00:32:55,442 And he was kind of really being sarcastic. 613 00:32:55,476 --> 00:32:57,344 They have a lot of evidence of you UFOs and aliens, 614 00:32:57,377 --> 00:32:59,413 because information has been being released 615 00:32:59,446 --> 00:33:01,982 and declassified for decades, 616 00:33:02,015 --> 00:33:04,051 including the new...documents. 617 00:33:04,084 --> 00:33:08,021 What he really is saying is, we have information about UAPs and UFOs, 618 00:33:08,055 --> 00:33:09,423 but we don't want to share it with you, 619 00:33:09,456 --> 00:33:11,391 and we're not going to actually openly claim 620 00:33:11,425 --> 00:33:16,163 that these are actual alien craft or spacecraft that are not created by us, 621 00:33:16,196 --> 00:33:19,099 because if we do that, and we're the ones in control 622 00:33:19,132 --> 00:33:21,603 of protecting airspace over the world, 623 00:33:21,636 --> 00:33:24,471 then we look like we're inadequate and we can't do our jobs. 624 00:33:24,506 --> 00:33:25,707 So, that's why they do this. 625 00:33:25,740 --> 00:33:28,375 They do this to give the citizens of the world 626 00:33:28,408 --> 00:33:31,813 a false sense of protection or security 627 00:33:31,846 --> 00:33:33,848 that they do have control and they can protect us, 628 00:33:33,882 --> 00:33:35,148 when in actuality, 629 00:33:35,182 --> 00:33:37,619 they cannot control these beings, whatsoever. 630 00:33:37,652 --> 00:33:41,154 There is a little bit of a discrepancy here. 631 00:33:41,188 --> 00:33:45,660 Because, how can you declassify something that you don't have access to? 632 00:33:45,693 --> 00:33:50,430 So, if we go to the Senate and Armed Services Committee in Washington, D. C. 633 00:33:50,464 --> 00:33:52,667 and we asked them to pull the files, 634 00:33:52,700 --> 00:33:54,468 if they don't have access to it, 635 00:33:54,501 --> 00:33:57,137 or if they're not read into the program, we're never going to get it. 636 00:33:57,170 --> 00:34:00,575 So, that's this delicate line 637 00:34:00,608 --> 00:34:03,210 that's being kind of crossed here. 638 00:34:03,243 --> 00:34:06,146 Somehow, we need to get access to these programs, 639 00:34:06,179 --> 00:34:10,018 but still keeping under the umbrella of national security. 640 00:34:10,050 --> 00:34:13,555 And so, you can see the way this government is trying to play this. 641 00:34:13,588 --> 00:34:15,857 They're trying to keep the secrets on one end, 642 00:34:15,890 --> 00:34:17,157 but then on the other end, 643 00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:18,793 we've got these congressional hearings 644 00:34:18,826 --> 00:34:19,894 that are just... 645 00:34:20,728 --> 00:34:22,362 They're almost throwaways. 646 00:34:22,396 --> 00:34:24,532 They're really not doing anything. 647 00:34:24,566 --> 00:34:26,668 They're not moving this field any further. 648 00:34:26,701 --> 00:34:29,637 It's also been reported that there have been UAP observed 649 00:34:29,671 --> 00:34:31,238 and interacting with 650 00:34:31,271 --> 00:34:33,273 and flying over sensitive military facilities. Particular-- 651 00:34:33,307 --> 00:34:37,679 And not just ranges, but some facilities housing our strategic nuclear forces. 652 00:34:37,712 --> 00:34:39,881 One such incident allegedly occurred 653 00:34:39,914 --> 00:34:42,550 at Malmstrom Air Force Base, 654 00:34:42,584 --> 00:34:45,520 in which ten of our nuclear ICBMs were rendered inoperable. 655 00:34:45,553 --> 00:34:48,355 At the same time, a glowing red orb was observed overhead. 656 00:34:48,388 --> 00:34:50,725 I'm not commenting on the accuracy of this, I'm simply 657 00:34:50,758 --> 00:34:52,594 asking you whether you're aware of it 658 00:34:52,627 --> 00:34:54,862 and whether you have any comment on the accuracy of that report. 659 00:34:54,896 --> 00:34:56,163 MAN: Let me pass that to Mr. Bray, 660 00:34:56,196 --> 00:34:58,265 he's been looking at UAPs the last three years. 661 00:34:58,298 --> 00:35:01,936 That data is not within the holdings of the UAPs task force. 662 00:35:01,970 --> 00:35:05,573 I know that our government 663 00:35:05,607 --> 00:35:09,677 and the military hasn't been sitting on their hands on this situation, 664 00:35:09,711 --> 00:35:12,880 because if it's a threat to national security, 665 00:35:12,914 --> 00:35:15,315 if these unknowns can fly 666 00:35:15,349 --> 00:35:20,320 over a military strategic missile facilities 667 00:35:20,354 --> 00:35:24,224 like Francis E. Warren or Minot Air Force Base, 668 00:35:24,257 --> 00:35:26,460 and, you know, they control, 669 00:35:26,493 --> 00:35:28,930 virtually all of the Minuteman IIIs 670 00:35:28,963 --> 00:35:30,632 that are in the upper-Midwest. 671 00:35:31,933 --> 00:35:34,134 For them not to get excited 672 00:35:34,167 --> 00:35:37,071 or have some of the best equipment, monitoring equipment, going 673 00:35:37,105 --> 00:35:40,140 when these things have been shutting down 674 00:35:40,173 --> 00:35:42,110 ballistic missile sites. 675 00:35:42,142 --> 00:35:43,511 They're not interconnected. 676 00:35:43,544 --> 00:35:44,846 That's, you know, they're separated, 677 00:35:44,879 --> 00:35:47,381 because that's their protection. 678 00:35:48,650 --> 00:35:52,152 And some craft, this number of years ago, 679 00:35:52,185 --> 00:35:56,323 literally shut down over half of the silos in the missile complex. 680 00:35:57,859 --> 00:36:01,294 Okay, but are you aware of the report? 681 00:36:01,328 --> 00:36:04,498 That the data exists somewhere? 682 00:36:04,532 --> 00:36:08,970 I have, uh, heard stories. I have not seen the official data on that. 683 00:36:09,003 --> 00:36:11,072 So you just seen informal stories? 684 00:36:11,105 --> 00:36:16,944 No official assessment that you've done or exists within DOD that you're aware of 685 00:36:16,978 --> 00:36:18,680 regarding the Malmstrom incident? 686 00:36:20,148 --> 00:36:21,181 All I can this is, 687 00:36:21,214 --> 00:36:22,784 you know, what's within my cognizance, 688 00:36:22,817 --> 00:36:25,252 the UAP task force, and we have not looked at that incident. 689 00:36:25,285 --> 00:36:28,690 When he was saying that he had absolutely no knowledge 690 00:36:29,557 --> 00:36:32,426 of unknown alien craft 691 00:36:33,895 --> 00:36:36,798 overflying our military installations. 692 00:36:36,831 --> 00:36:40,333 and affecting our nuclear triad, 693 00:36:40,367 --> 00:36:42,704 the man should have been fired right there. 694 00:36:42,737 --> 00:36:45,940 I mean, that's... that's gross incompetence. 695 00:36:45,973 --> 00:36:48,810 If they're there representing the federal government 696 00:36:48,843 --> 00:36:52,847 and we're going to take our best and brightest and we're going to investigate 697 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,818 unknown aerial phenomenon, also called UFOs, 698 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,589 and you have someone who has absolutely no idea 699 00:37:03,057 --> 00:37:08,295 of some of the instances that is general public, 700 00:37:08,328 --> 00:37:10,198 that I know about. 701 00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:12,800 You know, people who just... 702 00:37:12,834 --> 00:37:16,170 who aren't military historians or whatever have read about it. 703 00:37:16,204 --> 00:37:17,404 It's been on the front pages. 704 00:37:17,437 --> 00:37:18,806 It's been on the news. 705 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,908 Well, that's a pretty high-profile incident. 706 00:37:20,942 --> 00:37:22,577 I don't claim to be an expert on this, 707 00:37:22,610 --> 00:37:25,278 but that's out there in the ether. 708 00:37:26,614 --> 00:37:28,549 You're the guys investigating it. 709 00:37:28,583 --> 00:37:30,484 I mean, who else is doing it? 710 00:37:30,518 --> 00:37:33,487 If something was officially brought to our attention, we would look at it. 711 00:37:33,521 --> 00:37:35,156 There are many things that are out there in the ether 712 00:37:35,189 --> 00:37:37,058 that aren't officially brought to our attention. 713 00:37:37,091 --> 00:37:38,893 GALLAGHER: How would it have to be officially brought to... 714 00:37:38,926 --> 00:37:40,027 I am bringing it to your attention. 715 00:37:40,762 --> 00:37:42,063 This is pretty official. 716 00:37:42,096 --> 00:37:43,631 So we go back and take a look at it, 717 00:37:43,664 --> 00:37:46,000 but generally there is some 718 00:37:46,033 --> 00:37:48,736 authoritative figure that says there is an incident that occurred. 719 00:37:48,770 --> 00:37:50,204 We'd like you to look at this. 720 00:37:50,238 --> 00:37:52,907 But in terms of just tracking what may be in the media, 721 00:37:52,940 --> 00:37:56,244 that says that something occurred at this time at this place, 722 00:37:56,276 --> 00:37:58,713 there's probably a lot of leads that we'd have to follow-up on. 723 00:37:58,746 --> 00:38:00,548 I don't think we have resource to do that right now. 724 00:38:00,581 --> 00:38:02,250 Well, I don't claim to be an authoritative figure, 725 00:38:02,282 --> 00:38:04,786 but for what it's worth, I would like you to look into it. 726 00:38:04,819 --> 00:38:06,554 If for another reason you could dismiss it 727 00:38:06,587 --> 00:38:09,489 and say this is not worth wasting resources on. 728 00:38:11,926 --> 00:38:13,561 I was listening to these witnesses. 729 00:38:13,594 --> 00:38:17,532 I'm saying, "My gosh, if I was that stupid..." 730 00:38:17,565 --> 00:38:21,736 That's the only word I could... That or incompetent. 731 00:38:21,769 --> 00:38:24,806 I'm up there in front of the world talking about a subject matter 732 00:38:24,839 --> 00:38:29,544 that everybody has an interest in, even if it's remote interest. 733 00:38:29,577 --> 00:38:31,712 You know, when you say, "Hey, there's flying saucers out there." 734 00:38:31,746 --> 00:38:32,947 "There's things that go bump at night." 735 00:38:32,980 --> 00:38:34,949 Everybody sort of goes, "Oh, really?" 736 00:38:34,982 --> 00:38:38,318 So, it's not something that it's a fly-by-night, 737 00:38:38,351 --> 00:38:41,722 it's not something that doesn't spark anybody's interest, 738 00:38:41,756 --> 00:38:45,458 but they have two people up there representing our government, 739 00:38:45,492 --> 00:38:48,696 which are supposed to be the best and the brightest, 740 00:38:50,798 --> 00:38:53,433 coming across as an absolute fool. 741 00:38:53,466 --> 00:38:55,002 And they were coming across 742 00:38:55,036 --> 00:38:56,904 like a couple of Jehovah Witnesses have come up 743 00:38:56,938 --> 00:39:00,473 to your door and they weren't prepared to speak about the Almighty. 744 00:39:01,175 --> 00:39:03,476 I mean, it was a joke. 745 00:39:03,511 --> 00:39:05,112 It was a joke. It was a waste of time. 746 00:39:05,146 --> 00:39:06,013 [DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING] 747 00:39:08,216 --> 00:39:12,520 MAN: These documents include reports on the biological effects 748 00:39:12,553 --> 00:39:14,421 of UFO sightings on humans, 749 00:39:14,454 --> 00:39:16,224 something we haven't heard before. 750 00:39:16,257 --> 00:39:21,028 The report describes 42 cases where humans sustained injuries 751 00:39:21,062 --> 00:39:24,765 after alleged encounters "anomalous vehicles". 752 00:39:24,799 --> 00:39:29,637 In some of the cases, humans, the Pentagon says, showed burn injuries 753 00:39:29,670 --> 00:39:33,440 or other conditions related to electromagnetic radiation. 754 00:39:33,473 --> 00:39:35,843 INTERVIEWER: What do you make of this... 755 00:39:35,877 --> 00:39:41,015 these UAP encounters that caused brain trauma when you get in close proximity to it? 756 00:39:41,048 --> 00:39:43,317 From Garry Nolan? Is this proper language? 757 00:39:44,484 --> 00:39:46,754 Well, look, you know, a couple months ago, 758 00:39:46,787 --> 00:39:51,559 there was a 1500-page release from the Department of Defense 759 00:39:51,592 --> 00:39:58,666 of alleged contact cases with UFOs that resulted in all kinds of injuries. 760 00:39:58,699 --> 00:40:05,806 And those cases were put together by a senior member of the covert programs 761 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,442 that have been staging fake events, false events, 762 00:40:09,476 --> 00:40:11,212 named Dr. Kit Green. 763 00:40:11,245 --> 00:40:17,551 He as fellow physician in Ohio, and we know that it was stated 764 00:40:17,585 --> 00:40:20,288 that he had facilitated putting that together. 765 00:40:20,321 --> 00:40:21,856 Where he talked about people had brain injuries 766 00:40:21,889 --> 00:40:24,292 and burns and unwanted pregnancies. 767 00:40:24,325 --> 00:40:28,095 Well, of course, this is now being, as I predicted. 768 00:40:28,129 --> 00:40:30,998 As we move forward with actual disclosure, 769 00:40:31,032 --> 00:40:34,434 secret government programs through their lackeys, 770 00:40:34,467 --> 00:40:37,271 their operatives, are going to create a narrative. 771 00:40:37,305 --> 00:40:39,439 MAN: Garry Nolan is definitely at the top of that list. 772 00:40:39,472 --> 00:40:41,842 He's a Stanford professor. 773 00:40:41,876 --> 00:40:44,211 Stanford PhD. He's an immunologist. 774 00:40:44,245 --> 00:40:48,015 And he has, over the last decade or two, 775 00:40:48,049 --> 00:40:51,519 spent a lot of time studying the harmful effects 776 00:40:51,552 --> 00:40:55,957 that apparent encounters with UFOs have on the human brain. 777 00:40:55,990 --> 00:40:59,226 Now, remember, every one of those cases they're presenting 778 00:40:59,260 --> 00:41:04,332 were covert human projects 779 00:41:04,365 --> 00:41:08,235 targeting civilians with these sort of injuries. 780 00:41:08,269 --> 00:41:12,239 But this report comes from a shadowy Pentagon department 781 00:41:12,273 --> 00:41:14,575 that was shut down in 2012. 782 00:41:14,608 --> 00:41:17,578 And the ailments listed after these experiences, 783 00:41:17,611 --> 00:41:20,114 as you say, the most common experience, by the way, 784 00:41:20,147 --> 00:41:24,085 is abduction, radiation burns, paralysis, 785 00:41:24,118 --> 00:41:27,288 brain damage, even sexual encounters. 786 00:41:28,823 --> 00:41:30,391 Don't take my word for it. 787 00:41:30,424 --> 00:41:35,196 Dr. Jacques Vallee, who has published a book in 1992, 788 00:41:35,229 --> 00:41:37,131 stated point blank, 789 00:41:37,164 --> 00:41:40,001 that he had a document from 1985, 790 00:41:40,034 --> 00:41:42,470 a CIA official document, 791 00:41:42,503 --> 00:41:45,339 explaining how they were "abducting" 792 00:41:45,373 --> 00:41:47,475 people in South America, 793 00:41:47,508 --> 00:41:50,311 making it look like an "alien encounter" 794 00:41:50,344 --> 00:41:55,116 for its, and I'm quoting, psychological warfare value. 795 00:41:55,149 --> 00:41:59,987 So what people have to understand is this is a 60, 70-year 796 00:42:01,088 --> 00:42:03,958 sort of brainwashing plan. 797 00:42:03,991 --> 00:42:09,263 So you get people like Nolan and others who appear in the media. 798 00:42:09,296 --> 00:42:12,800 Those doors open for them, because they're going to tell the public 799 00:42:12,833 --> 00:42:15,970 the false information that the secret keepers 800 00:42:16,003 --> 00:42:18,472 want people to believe. Well, to what end? 801 00:42:18,507 --> 00:42:19,974 It's unmistakable. 802 00:42:20,007 --> 00:42:22,543 You have to say, okay, well, what did that? 803 00:42:22,576 --> 00:42:25,946 I can conjecture or hypothesize about, you know, 804 00:42:25,980 --> 00:42:27,314 is it the Russians? 805 00:42:27,348 --> 00:42:30,217 Is it UFOs, or whatever? 806 00:42:30,251 --> 00:42:33,120 But, the fact is, there is data that says 807 00:42:33,154 --> 00:42:35,322 something is happening, and so we need to study it. 808 00:42:35,356 --> 00:42:36,957 And that's what a scientist should do. 809 00:42:36,991 --> 00:42:38,192 MAN: Of course, absolutely. 810 00:42:38,225 --> 00:42:41,128 So, for some context, who were these people 811 00:42:41,762 --> 00:42:43,864 who'd been injured? 812 00:42:43,898 --> 00:42:47,868 Dr. Garry Nolan has recently come out and stated that people have had adverse effects 813 00:42:47,902 --> 00:42:52,706 to UFOs or being in a location where UFOs recently were located. 814 00:42:52,740 --> 00:42:55,743 Now, these effects seem to have affected their mind, 815 00:42:55,776 --> 00:42:59,914 their skin, and some type of illness or sickness had fallen over them. 816 00:42:59,947 --> 00:43:03,250 Kind of like radiation sickness or radiation poisoning. 817 00:43:03,284 --> 00:43:05,554 When you look at this other guide that exists called 818 00:43:05,586 --> 00:43:08,557 the Firefighters Disaster Guide, which is distributed 819 00:43:08,622 --> 00:43:10,391 to all firefighters in the United States, 820 00:43:10,424 --> 00:43:13,160 they actually have a section in this guide... 821 00:43:13,194 --> 00:43:15,029 You can get this on Amazon. 822 00:43:15,062 --> 00:43:17,698 ...it talked about how to deal with disasters 823 00:43:17,731 --> 00:43:19,333 dealing with UFOs, 824 00:43:19,366 --> 00:43:22,269 and what some of the actual side effects are 825 00:43:22,303 --> 00:43:24,573 [CHUCKLES] of coming in contact with UFOs. 826 00:43:24,605 --> 00:43:26,340 They teach this to firefighters. 827 00:43:26,373 --> 00:43:28,577 They say that people get sick, they get ill, 828 00:43:28,609 --> 00:43:30,911 they have mental problems. 829 00:43:30,945 --> 00:43:34,081 So all of a sudden, we see what Dr. Garry Nolan is talking about 830 00:43:34,115 --> 00:43:38,018 isn't really a conspiracy, it's something that the firefighters in America, 831 00:43:38,052 --> 00:43:42,656 which require to save lives, actually think really exists. 832 00:43:42,690 --> 00:43:45,126 Could it be another program by the United States military, 833 00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:48,629 where they test different types of technologies on their own citizens? 834 00:43:48,662 --> 00:43:51,932 We know that they've done this over many, many decades, 835 00:43:51,966 --> 00:43:55,402 we know that they tested chemicals and all different types of hallucinogenics 836 00:43:55,436 --> 00:43:58,239 on their own military officers without even telling them. 837 00:43:58,272 --> 00:44:03,310 They've actually even given soldiers different types of STDs and diseases to see how 838 00:44:03,344 --> 00:44:05,312 they would play out. 839 00:44:05,346 --> 00:44:08,816 You know, so this is something that we know is factual and actually happens. 840 00:44:08,849 --> 00:44:10,585 Could there be another program where they are actually 841 00:44:10,619 --> 00:44:13,721 impregnating women through some type of alternative technology? 842 00:44:13,754 --> 00:44:15,789 We just don't know. All we can do is hypothesize. 843 00:44:15,823 --> 00:44:17,658 All we can do is maybe speculate. 844 00:44:17,691 --> 00:44:20,427 But there seems to be something strange going on 845 00:44:20,461 --> 00:44:23,430 and I believe that the government knows exactly what it is. 846 00:44:23,464 --> 00:44:26,601 They want to create, as Wernher von Braun stated, 847 00:44:26,635 --> 00:44:29,604 an "alien threat" that doesn't exist 848 00:44:30,738 --> 00:44:33,608 for the warmongers and the war profiteers 849 00:44:33,642 --> 00:44:36,911 and the military industrial complex. Is very simple. 850 00:44:36,944 --> 00:44:40,481 So this has been put in place since the '50s. 851 00:44:40,515 --> 00:44:44,586 All you have to do is pull the CIA director Smith's memo 852 00:44:44,619 --> 00:44:47,922 from 1953 and we have it. 853 00:44:47,955 --> 00:44:53,628 Where he explains the psychological warfare value of the UFO subject. 854 00:44:53,662 --> 00:44:57,698 So now that was almost 70 years ago, 69 years ago. 855 00:44:57,731 --> 00:45:01,168 So, I think that this is something the public and the media 856 00:45:01,202 --> 00:45:03,103 have to get educated on. 857 00:45:03,137 --> 00:45:06,941 They're not going to get it through the UFO research community 858 00:45:06,974 --> 00:45:11,680 or from the media, because most people have not done their homework 859 00:45:11,712 --> 00:45:15,382 To find out what the counterintelligence operations are. 860 00:45:15,416 --> 00:45:18,620 And by that I mean, the people who are embedded out there 861 00:45:18,653 --> 00:45:21,822 concocting all kinds of frightening stuff 862 00:45:21,855 --> 00:45:25,159 for its psychological warfare value, to create fear. 863 00:45:25,192 --> 00:45:28,095 Well, I think there has been a realization 864 00:45:28,128 --> 00:45:31,131 that this is a serious defense and national security issue, 865 00:45:31,165 --> 00:45:34,735 and I think part of that has come from within Congress. 866 00:45:34,768 --> 00:45:39,240 People like Marco Rubio, for example, have spoken out quite strongly on this. 867 00:45:39,273 --> 00:45:42,843 But, the other thing is, we just got a lot more evidence 868 00:45:42,876 --> 00:45:44,345 than was previously the case. 869 00:45:44,378 --> 00:45:47,181 We always knew pilots saw these things. 870 00:45:47,214 --> 00:45:49,883 Because if you create fear, you can control people. 871 00:45:49,917 --> 00:45:52,086 Demagogues have done this forever. 872 00:45:52,119 --> 00:45:53,787 And if you're going to have another enemy 873 00:45:53,821 --> 00:45:57,358 bigger than another power like China or Russia, 874 00:45:57,391 --> 00:46:02,162 and you want to unite the world around a military effort, 875 00:46:02,196 --> 00:46:04,298 which is their agenda, long-term, 876 00:46:04,331 --> 00:46:07,434 you have to create something bigger and badder 877 00:46:07,468 --> 00:46:11,238 than the Russian bear or the Chinese panda or what have you. 878 00:46:11,272 --> 00:46:12,439 This is what's been planned. 879 00:46:12,473 --> 00:46:15,776 It's a 70-year plan, and we know it. 880 00:46:15,809 --> 00:46:19,547 Carol Rosin and Wernher von Braun had seen that defense plan, 881 00:46:19,581 --> 00:46:23,784 and it specifically outlines exactly what we're seeing now. 882 00:46:23,817 --> 00:46:28,389 I would like to make the prediction right now, I absolutely believe this 883 00:46:28,422 --> 00:46:33,595 with every fiber of my being, that within the next couple of months to 90 days, 884 00:46:35,563 --> 00:46:38,332 there's going to be no more of these near-misses. 885 00:46:38,365 --> 00:46:41,101 Near-misses are already considered a hostile action 886 00:46:41,135 --> 00:46:44,572 in a military kind of milieu, it already is. 887 00:46:44,606 --> 00:46:46,974 But what we are going to have is we're going to have 888 00:46:47,007 --> 00:46:50,477 direct military action from these UAPs, 889 00:46:50,512 --> 00:46:53,748 these tic tacs, which are of all shapes and sizes, by the way, 890 00:46:53,782 --> 00:46:57,184 and we will have a huge hostile action 891 00:46:57,217 --> 00:47:03,290 against an entire battleship or many airliners as well. 892 00:47:03,324 --> 00:47:07,762 Airliners. And we're going to see huge consequences from that, 893 00:47:07,796 --> 00:47:10,297 because they have to do it at this point, 894 00:47:10,331 --> 00:47:13,735 because people are losing interest in the UAP situation. 895 00:47:13,768 --> 00:47:17,438 They are seeing a fraud artist like Elizondo 896 00:47:17,471 --> 00:47:20,841 and others that work with him as well. 897 00:47:20,874 --> 00:47:25,479 And people are just not impressed that much by these tic tacs 898 00:47:25,513 --> 00:47:29,651 and this 1950s videos that they're showing. 899 00:47:29,684 --> 00:47:31,118 People just don't care. 900 00:47:31,151 --> 00:47:33,954 So, they have to go into the desperate 901 00:47:33,987 --> 00:47:36,758 if they want to keep this alive, and they have to, 902 00:47:36,791 --> 00:47:38,526 because this is Operation Fail Safe, 903 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,029 it's going to be their final, final position of the cabal. 904 00:47:42,062 --> 00:47:45,165 When everything else fails and they got nothing else, 905 00:47:45,199 --> 00:47:48,435 they're going to have to go to fake alien invasion. 906 00:47:48,469 --> 00:47:50,337 That's what we are facing, and that's what we're looking at, 907 00:47:50,371 --> 00:47:53,374 and that is something that will absolutely happen. 908 00:47:54,509 --> 00:47:56,110 What they are doing, 909 00:47:56,143 --> 00:48:00,114 what the secret illegal, unconstitutional government is doing, 910 00:48:00,147 --> 00:48:02,650 is getting both witting, knowing people who know 911 00:48:02,684 --> 00:48:04,451 they're putting out false information 912 00:48:04,485 --> 00:48:07,020 and a lot of unwitting people, naive people, 913 00:48:07,888 --> 00:48:10,558 who will just take the bait. 914 00:48:10,592 --> 00:48:15,329 And so most of the media does not have any real depth of research on the issue. 915 00:48:15,362 --> 00:48:17,766 So, if they get something that gets released from the Pentagon, 916 00:48:17,799 --> 00:48:22,169 like these 1500 pages of terrifying accounts, 917 00:48:22,202 --> 00:48:25,305 they're not saying, "Who is doing this?" 918 00:48:25,339 --> 00:48:28,610 What we know and have known since the early '90s, 919 00:48:28,643 --> 00:48:33,515 and I've had it confirmed to me by dozens of operatives inside the system, 920 00:48:33,548 --> 00:48:39,219 that these are actually people who are humans, doing these things 921 00:48:39,253 --> 00:48:44,291 for their sort of brainwashing value. 922 00:48:44,324 --> 00:48:49,531 Because, if you don't have another big enemy, 923 00:48:49,564 --> 00:48:52,065 as one of my military advisers said back in the '90s, 924 00:48:52,099 --> 00:48:55,804 God help us, if peace were to break out, we'd all be out of business. 925 00:48:55,837 --> 00:49:02,009 So, you know, there is this sort of manipulative aspect to this, and that's what that's about. 926 00:49:02,042 --> 00:49:05,680 So if you just keep that in mind when all these things are rolled out, 927 00:49:05,713 --> 00:49:07,114 you're going to go, well, 928 00:49:07,147 --> 00:49:09,450 [CLEARS THROAT] you know, is it real or is it false? 929 00:49:09,483 --> 00:49:12,052 Obviously, I would say 90-plus percent 930 00:49:12,085 --> 00:49:14,288 of everything that's going to come out is false, 931 00:49:14,321 --> 00:49:16,758 and that's why people have to be very skeptical 932 00:49:16,791 --> 00:49:20,762 and very thorough in their research. 933 00:49:20,795 --> 00:49:25,032 Dr. Greer had talked about, and he wrote a white paper that discusses this. 934 00:49:25,065 --> 00:49:28,068 If you've got a classified program, you've got a U-sat program, 935 00:49:28,101 --> 00:49:29,737 unacknowledged special access program. 936 00:49:29,771 --> 00:49:32,005 So from the very get go, 937 00:49:32,039 --> 00:49:37,545 if this is contrary to the Constitution at the very beginning, 938 00:49:37,579 --> 00:49:40,715 then the entire program goes against the law. 939 00:49:40,748 --> 00:49:44,117 So, they're not bound to their national security deals, 940 00:49:44,151 --> 00:49:46,955 because it's extra-constitutional from the very get go. 941 00:49:46,987 --> 00:49:49,557 So, you can see the way Greer has played this. 942 00:49:49,591 --> 00:49:52,092 It's very masterful. It's very genius. 943 00:49:52,125 --> 00:49:57,665 So, not necessarily are all these people under this umbrella of secrecy. 944 00:49:57,699 --> 00:50:01,669 If the entire program is extra-constitutional from the very beginning, 945 00:50:01,703 --> 00:50:04,506 and so it's a very good play that we can capitalize on, 946 00:50:04,539 --> 00:50:07,140 and it might be a wedge to get in there 947 00:50:07,174 --> 00:50:09,243 so that some of these programs can be declassified. 948 00:50:10,177 --> 00:50:12,747 -[INTERVIEWER SPEAKING] -Hmm. 949 00:50:12,780 --> 00:50:18,953 Programs associated with the analysis of retrieve debris in 1952. 950 00:50:18,987 --> 00:50:22,824 We have a very interesting source. 951 00:50:22,857 --> 00:50:26,728 She passed away now, but she was present at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, 952 00:50:26,761 --> 00:50:31,331 where over 1,000, and I'm going to repeat, 1,000 artifacts 953 00:50:31,365 --> 00:50:33,835 from multiple UFO crash retrievals 954 00:50:33,868 --> 00:50:37,972 were, number one, photograph, bagged, tagged and catalogued, 955 00:50:38,006 --> 00:50:41,174 and it's sitting in a warehouse at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base right now. 956 00:50:41,208 --> 00:50:44,646 So, they cannot claim that they don't have physical evidence. 957 00:50:44,679 --> 00:50:45,813 They've got the evidence. 958 00:50:45,847 --> 00:50:48,215 It's just they don't have access to it 959 00:50:48,248 --> 00:50:51,686 or the people below them are not read into the program. 960 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,355 DR. GREER: Remember, there are very, very advanced material sciences 961 00:50:55,389 --> 00:50:58,993 and technologies from inhuman covert programs 962 00:50:59,027 --> 00:51:01,461 that have been reverse-engineered. 963 00:51:01,495 --> 00:51:05,833 So, whether it's a nano molecular material that's human 964 00:51:05,867 --> 00:51:08,335 or something of extraterrestrial origin, 965 00:51:08,368 --> 00:51:10,905 you really have to know what you're looking for. 966 00:51:10,939 --> 00:51:14,609 I don't know who's possessing that material. 967 00:51:14,642 --> 00:51:16,143 Um, I don't possess it. 968 00:51:16,176 --> 00:51:17,645 I would know what to look for. 969 00:51:19,747 --> 00:51:23,417 But, you know, it'd be impossible to know 970 00:51:23,450 --> 00:51:25,653 without the provenance of the material. 971 00:51:25,687 --> 00:51:29,389 But, then also, you know, getting down to the nano molecular level 972 00:51:30,123 --> 00:51:31,059 of how it was made. 973 00:51:32,627 --> 00:51:34,361 -You want to go right... -MAN: Right there, yeah? 974 00:51:36,064 --> 00:51:38,398 INTERVIEWER: So, what about these politicians? 975 00:51:38,432 --> 00:51:40,300 You know, there is a couple coming forward. 976 00:51:41,368 --> 00:51:43,605 Is that positive thing that this...? 977 00:51:43,638 --> 00:51:45,940 Yes, there are quite a few politicians. 978 00:51:45,974 --> 00:51:50,277 I mean, this is how these bills were passed and the Congress coming forward, 979 00:51:50,310 --> 00:51:54,181 you know, who are very interested in the issue, 980 00:51:54,214 --> 00:51:56,751 and over the years I've met with many of them. 981 00:51:56,784 --> 00:51:58,953 At a certain point, it creates, you know, 982 00:51:58,987 --> 00:52:03,390 a pressure to look into this, that there's got to be something to it. 983 00:52:03,423 --> 00:52:07,862 That doesn't mean that they have been briefed on what's actually going on, 984 00:52:07,895 --> 00:52:13,568 because it takes a very long time to get to the bottom of this very deep hole, 985 00:52:13,601 --> 00:52:15,435 black hole that they've created. 986 00:52:15,469 --> 00:52:19,741 So, you know, when you're dealing with an illegally-run black project, 987 00:52:19,774 --> 00:52:22,476 you know, you're dealing with people 988 00:52:22,510 --> 00:52:27,715 that I've worked with for years who have clearances, you know, top secret black projects, 989 00:52:27,749 --> 00:52:30,450 unacknowledged special access projects and they don't have access. 990 00:52:30,484 --> 00:52:33,420 As you know, and as Dr. Greer has talked about, 991 00:52:33,453 --> 00:52:35,556 the United States government does not build anything. 992 00:52:35,590 --> 00:52:37,491 They source it out to contractors. 993 00:52:37,525 --> 00:52:42,063 So, a lot of these times, these programs, whatever they build, 994 00:52:42,096 --> 00:52:46,333 whatever they saw, whatever they reverse-engineered is outsourced 995 00:52:46,366 --> 00:52:48,402 and it is proprietary. 996 00:52:48,435 --> 00:52:52,239 So you can't throw a FOIA request at something that's proprietary, 997 00:52:52,272 --> 00:52:55,442 because it is contractor base, so you can you can write 998 00:52:55,475 --> 00:52:57,145 all the FOIA requests you want. 999 00:52:57,177 --> 00:52:59,981 If it's a proprietary contractor program, 1000 00:53:00,014 --> 00:53:01,149 they won't release it. 1001 00:53:01,181 --> 00:53:03,618 And so, that's one thing we're up against. 1002 00:53:03,651 --> 00:53:09,389 The other thing we're up against is it doesn't matter what your rank is in the House 1003 00:53:09,423 --> 00:53:10,825 and the Senate. 1004 00:53:10,858 --> 00:53:13,995 Whatever you're in the Washington Beltway there, 1005 00:53:14,028 --> 00:53:19,199 if you're not cleared and read into these programs, you are not going to get access to it. 1006 00:53:19,232 --> 00:53:21,669 So when we have these congressional hearings 1007 00:53:21,703 --> 00:53:24,872 that we've been recently seeing, and they don't have 1008 00:53:24,906 --> 00:53:26,507 access to these to these programs. 1009 00:53:26,541 --> 00:53:30,578 So how are they going to filter that down to the general public? 1010 00:53:30,611 --> 00:53:32,379 They don't even have access to the program, 1011 00:53:32,412 --> 00:53:35,215 so it's going to take 1012 00:53:35,248 --> 00:53:39,554 a monumental crusade to... 1013 00:53:39,587 --> 00:53:43,558 I think we have to go beyond Washington D.C. 1014 00:53:43,591 --> 00:53:48,096 We have to go to the scientists, and we have to go to the witnesses 1015 00:53:48,129 --> 00:53:52,133 and engineers who worked on these programs and work it that way. 1016 00:53:52,166 --> 00:53:54,736 Well, you know, remember, the Pentagon office 1017 00:53:54,769 --> 00:53:57,672 is at this stage for a storefront, 1018 00:53:57,705 --> 00:54:00,675 like Project BLUE BOOK was in the '60s. 1019 00:54:01,475 --> 00:54:03,144 It's a very small operation. 1020 00:54:03,177 --> 00:54:05,412 The people in there have not been read in. 1021 00:54:05,445 --> 00:54:09,884 Um, they've probably been told what to say. 1022 00:54:09,917 --> 00:54:11,986 That's not where the real investigation is happening. 1023 00:54:13,054 --> 00:54:15,123 That's a different discussion. 1024 00:54:15,156 --> 00:54:18,291 But, they are there because it was mandated by law 1025 00:54:18,325 --> 00:54:19,160 that they be there. 1026 00:54:19,927 --> 00:54:22,395 And, you know, 1027 00:54:22,429 --> 00:54:27,602 of this statement that we're not going to investigate any of the man-made objects, 1028 00:54:27,635 --> 00:54:31,606 well, you've just eliminated 80 to 90 percent of all UFO sightings. 1029 00:54:31,639 --> 00:54:36,010 Now, a lot of our pilots, navy, jet and Air Force pilots, 1030 00:54:36,043 --> 00:54:38,212 what have you, who had these encounters, 1031 00:54:38,246 --> 00:54:43,217 because these objects simply go so much faster 1032 00:54:43,251 --> 00:54:48,890 and they maneuver at right angles in a way that no conventional aircraft can, 1033 00:54:48,923 --> 00:54:51,025 they all assume it's from outer space. 1034 00:54:51,058 --> 00:54:52,727 They are not read into 1035 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,898 what Ben Rich of the Lockheed Skunk Works told us, 1036 00:54:56,931 --> 00:55:01,636 and the vast majority of these UAP, UFO objects 1037 00:55:01,669 --> 00:55:03,204 are, in fact, ours. 1038 00:55:03,237 --> 00:55:05,273 They're man-made, and they're not Chinese or Russian. 1039 00:55:05,305 --> 00:55:06,741 They're ours, American. 1040 00:55:06,774 --> 00:55:10,878 So I think this is sort of a big... 1041 00:55:10,912 --> 00:55:13,648 They're hoodwinking the Congress, 1042 00:55:13,681 --> 00:55:16,449 and they're actually deliberately 1043 00:55:16,483 --> 00:55:20,721 pulling their punch on disclosing the biggest part of the secret. 1044 00:55:20,755 --> 00:55:22,723 Now, I will say, 1045 00:55:22,757 --> 00:55:26,194 ten, 20 percent of things that have been seen are of extraterrestrial origin. 1046 00:55:26,227 --> 00:55:27,962 It's a minority. 1047 00:55:27,995 --> 00:55:31,199 The majority are actually ours, 1048 00:55:31,232 --> 00:55:35,136 but that's a bigger secret than the "alien" part. 1049 00:55:35,169 --> 00:55:39,507 Why? Because, and here is the linchpin of the secrecy, 1050 00:55:39,540 --> 00:55:42,610 to disclose to the public that those are ours 1051 00:55:43,811 --> 00:55:47,248 would also admit that we already have 1052 00:55:47,281 --> 00:55:50,017 the energy and propulsion systems 1053 00:55:50,051 --> 00:55:52,787 to replace all the oil and gas and coal 1054 00:55:52,820 --> 00:55:55,923 and nuclear power and wind and solar on the planet. 1055 00:55:56,524 --> 00:55:58,860 Why? The sensors. 1056 00:55:58,893 --> 00:56:02,462 The Pentagon has admitted, their infrared sensors of the tic tac 1057 00:56:02,495 --> 00:56:03,798 and these other objects. 1058 00:56:03,831 --> 00:56:05,032 There's no heat source, 1059 00:56:05,700 --> 00:56:06,868 there's no jets, 1060 00:56:06,901 --> 00:56:08,501 there's no rockets, 1061 00:56:08,536 --> 00:56:12,707 there's no nuclear device on-board creating energy, 1062 00:56:12,740 --> 00:56:14,675 because that would be a huge, as you know, 1063 00:56:14,709 --> 00:56:19,080 nuclear fission or fusion creates an enormous amount of heat. 1064 00:56:19,113 --> 00:56:22,250 Nothing. Well, how are they moving? 1065 00:56:22,283 --> 00:56:25,286 Well, they're using what's called... 1066 00:56:25,319 --> 00:56:28,656 They're using electromagnetic field propulsion. 1067 00:56:28,689 --> 00:56:30,858 Which are very high-voltage systems. 1068 00:56:30,892 --> 00:56:32,293 We understand how they work, 1069 00:56:32,326 --> 00:56:35,663 but for these covert programs 1070 00:56:35,696 --> 00:56:37,865 that have been run illegally and without oversight, 1071 00:56:38,699 --> 00:56:40,001 to admit that, 1072 00:56:40,034 --> 00:56:42,435 for any part of the U.S. Government to admit that, 1073 00:56:42,469 --> 00:56:45,840 it'd be a scandal 1,000 times bigger than Watergate 1074 00:56:45,873 --> 00:56:47,407 or Iran Contra 1075 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,677 or anything you can think of. 1076 00:56:49,710 --> 00:56:51,245 Because of what it would mean is, 1077 00:56:51,279 --> 00:56:53,848 all the deaths from our space program and shuttles 1078 00:56:53,881 --> 00:56:57,318 and Apollo missions, like my uncle worked on, 1079 00:56:57,351 --> 00:57:01,389 and all of the pollution and all the poverty in the world 1080 00:57:01,421 --> 00:57:04,692 and all of the environmental degradation has been unnecessary 1081 00:57:05,293 --> 00:57:07,728 since 1954. 1082 00:57:08,896 --> 00:57:12,233 So for the past 68 years, 1083 00:57:12,266 --> 00:57:15,236 we have not needed rockets, jets, 1084 00:57:15,269 --> 00:57:17,470 gas engines, or any of it. 1085 00:57:17,505 --> 00:57:20,473 Now, that statement is, I know, 1086 00:57:20,508 --> 00:57:22,777 some people say, an outrageous statement. 1087 00:57:22,810 --> 00:57:24,512 But, it can be proven. 1088 00:57:24,545 --> 00:57:27,748 I mean, there's plenty of documentation 1089 00:57:27,782 --> 00:57:31,652 of even aerospace journals back in the early '50s 1090 00:57:31,686 --> 00:57:34,922 before they mastered "gravity control" 1091 00:57:34,956 --> 00:57:36,557 talk about this. 1092 00:57:36,590 --> 00:57:40,561 So, the reason this office has probably been told, I mean... 1093 00:57:40,594 --> 00:57:43,331 They're sort of just mouthpieces saying what they're told to say 1094 00:57:43,364 --> 00:57:45,299 by someone, 1095 00:57:45,333 --> 00:57:48,936 that we are not going to look into the things that are made by humans. 1096 00:57:48,970 --> 00:57:52,740 It's because the ones that are human are most of them. 1097 00:57:52,773 --> 00:57:54,442 So then they don't look into them. 1098 00:57:54,474 --> 00:57:57,878 And number two, to disclose their existence 1099 00:57:57,912 --> 00:58:00,514 would be the pull the curtain back 1100 00:58:00,548 --> 00:58:04,218 on the crown jewel of the secrecy. 1101 00:58:04,251 --> 00:58:06,454 The reason for the secrecy. 1102 00:58:06,486 --> 00:58:10,691 Because it's all about macroeconomic and geopolitical control. 1103 00:58:10,725 --> 00:58:15,663 And if you bring out technologies that allows every home, office, 1104 00:58:15,696 --> 00:58:18,966 manufacturing plant, village in Africa, 1105 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,302 to have its own energy source 1106 00:58:21,335 --> 00:58:24,338 without a transmission line and burning expensive fuel, 1107 00:58:25,172 --> 00:58:27,842 oil, gas, coal, 1108 00:58:27,875 --> 00:58:32,279 you've just changed the whole geopolitical macroeconomic system. 1109 00:58:32,313 --> 00:58:36,650 The power equilibrium of the world is gonna shift 1110 00:58:36,684 --> 00:58:39,687 away from a handful of global oligarchs, 1111 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,522 to we, the people. 1112 00:58:41,555 --> 00:58:43,524 [CHUCKLES] 1113 00:58:43,557 --> 00:58:48,162 I view this coming out properly as a sort of the next American Revolution. 1114 00:58:48,195 --> 00:58:51,565 Bloodless, we hope, that has to happen. 1115 00:58:51,599 --> 00:58:54,468 It is a revolution. It's a revolution in thought, 1116 00:58:54,502 --> 00:58:58,507 it's a revolution in energy, technology, science, energy propulsion, 1117 00:58:58,539 --> 00:59:02,343 and, most importantly, how society would be structured. 1118 00:59:02,376 --> 00:59:07,348 Because, the evolution of fascism 1119 00:59:07,381 --> 00:59:10,951 was actually powerful industrial private interests 1120 00:59:10,985 --> 00:59:14,688 colluding with and controlling government and using government. 1121 00:59:14,722 --> 00:59:16,957 That's the root of fascism. 1122 00:59:16,991 --> 00:59:18,659 But, that's what this is. 1123 00:59:18,692 --> 00:59:21,495 What Eisenhower called the military industrial complex. 1124 00:59:21,530 --> 00:59:28,502 He was using a different term for the old 1900s, early 20th century fascism. 1125 00:59:28,537 --> 00:59:31,739 So the Antifa people and the anti-fascist people 1126 00:59:31,772 --> 00:59:34,842 need to understand what fascism actually is. 1127 00:59:34,875 --> 00:59:37,546 And that's what's going on here. 1128 00:59:37,578 --> 00:59:40,714 Because that's... those interests, 1129 00:59:40,748 --> 00:59:44,218 financial, corporate, what have you, 1130 00:59:44,251 --> 00:59:47,855 they're the tail wagging the dog of the U.S. Government. 1131 00:59:47,888 --> 00:59:52,393 And, like I said, 99-plus percent of the U.S. Government, 1132 00:59:52,426 --> 00:59:54,529 even the people I've worked with 1133 00:59:54,563 --> 00:59:56,931 who managed the black budget, 1134 00:59:56,964 --> 00:59:59,300 and oversee the three-letter agencies, 1135 00:59:59,333 --> 01:00:02,537 NSA, NRO, CIA, 1136 01:00:02,571 --> 01:00:05,139 they're been denied access to these projects. 1137 01:00:05,172 --> 01:00:07,675 And, yet, here we have all the evidence and proof for it. 1138 01:00:07,708 --> 01:00:12,514 So, I think this is a constitutional crisis so that we need the renewal 1139 01:00:12,547 --> 01:00:14,915 of the rule of law and the Constitution. 1140 01:00:14,949 --> 01:00:20,221 It's a civilizational crisis because of what's happened to the biosphere. 1141 01:00:20,254 --> 01:00:23,157 But, it's also a humanitarian crisis. 1142 01:00:23,190 --> 01:00:27,261 Three billion, with a 'B', people. 1143 01:00:27,294 --> 01:00:30,698 Three billion people don't have any way to cook their food. 1144 01:00:30,731 --> 01:00:32,433 They don't have electricity or gas. 1145 01:00:33,801 --> 01:00:35,604 In 2020. 2022. 1146 01:00:35,636 --> 01:00:37,905 This came out in The Economist last year. 1147 01:00:37,938 --> 01:00:41,275 Well, I think that in that situation, 1148 01:00:41,308 --> 01:00:45,179 what a huge humanitarian crisis when all that poverty 1149 01:00:45,212 --> 01:00:48,315 as well as the damage to the environment, could have been fixed before I was born. 1150 01:00:49,283 --> 01:00:50,918 You know, I was born in 1955. 1151 01:00:50,951 --> 01:00:54,421 We mastered gravity control and these energy systems 1152 01:00:54,455 --> 01:00:56,591 in October of 1954. 1153 01:00:57,424 --> 01:00:58,726 How do I know this? 1154 01:00:58,759 --> 01:01:01,795 The top scientist at the Naval Research Labs, 1155 01:01:01,829 --> 01:01:03,964 Richard Fauch, was in "the vault" 1156 01:01:04,665 --> 01:01:06,066 not far from here, 1157 01:01:06,100 --> 01:01:08,369 and saw the document that stated that 1158 01:01:08,402 --> 01:01:09,571 and had the proof of it. 1159 01:01:10,539 --> 01:01:11,640 Now, he didn't take it out, 1160 01:01:11,672 --> 01:01:13,174 of course, you're not allowed to, 1161 01:01:13,207 --> 01:01:15,009 but very reliable person. 1162 01:01:15,042 --> 01:01:17,011 I mean, he was the senior scientist at 1163 01:01:17,044 --> 01:01:19,648 the largest Department of Defense lab in the world 1164 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:23,350 here in Washington, and they were research lab. 1165 01:01:23,384 --> 01:01:27,054 And routinely had briefings with the Vice President and admirals 1166 01:01:27,087 --> 01:01:30,324 and generals and stuff all the time, so he was very high clearance. 1167 01:01:30,357 --> 01:01:33,694 So, I think that this is a real crisis. 1168 01:01:33,727 --> 01:01:36,764 And everyone thinks the crisis is coming from outer space. 1169 01:01:36,797 --> 01:01:39,166 Here is the technique. 1170 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:40,602 You set up a diversion. 1171 01:01:40,635 --> 01:01:41,802 "You look out here. 1172 01:01:41,835 --> 01:01:43,337 There's a threat from outer space." 1173 01:01:43,370 --> 01:01:47,007 Meanwhile, what it really is, these old curmudgeons 1174 01:01:47,041 --> 01:01:50,010 and these elite global money people 1175 01:01:50,044 --> 01:01:52,012 are like The Wizard of Oz 1176 01:01:52,046 --> 01:01:55,316 behind the curtain, pulling all the levers. 1177 01:01:55,349 --> 01:02:00,154 And just creating this whole insane narrative, 1178 01:02:00,187 --> 01:02:03,824 and they're very good at doing this. 1179 01:02:03,857 --> 01:02:06,293 They're very good at doing this. 1180 01:02:06,327 --> 01:02:09,863 So, I think this is why the public has to be very questioning 1181 01:02:11,031 --> 01:02:13,200 the reason disclosure... 1182 01:02:13,234 --> 01:02:16,237 When I say disclosure, I coined the term 1183 01:02:16,270 --> 01:02:18,138 in the '90s and early 2000s, 1184 01:02:18,172 --> 01:02:20,140 as the father of disclosure movement. 1185 01:02:20,174 --> 01:02:24,546 It's been hijacked by people who call any false revelation, 1186 01:02:25,279 --> 01:02:26,715 disclosure. 1187 01:02:26,747 --> 01:02:29,850 So there is 100 disclosure efforts out there now. 1188 01:02:29,883 --> 01:02:32,219 And I say what most of them are just putting out, 1189 01:02:32,253 --> 01:02:34,855 there is an echo chamber of parroting 1190 01:02:34,888 --> 01:02:37,224 the narrative in the script being written 1191 01:02:37,258 --> 01:02:38,693 by these black projects, 1192 01:02:38,727 --> 01:02:40,494 these illegal black projects. 1193 01:02:40,528 --> 01:02:43,364 So I'm a big skeptic. I always have been. 1194 01:02:43,397 --> 01:02:47,434 I mean, if you take 99 percent of what's presented on this subject 1195 01:02:47,468 --> 01:02:51,205 that you go to any conference or Internet search or what have you, 1196 01:02:51,238 --> 01:02:55,409 I go, "That's false. That's false. That's false. That's false." 1197 01:02:55,442 --> 01:02:57,679 And can be provably so. But no one's listening. 1198 01:02:57,712 --> 01:03:00,848 Because it's more exciting to get all, you know, 1199 01:03:00,881 --> 01:03:03,183 worked up about a threat from outer space. 1200 01:03:03,217 --> 01:03:05,754 It makes for excitement. The juices get flowing. 1201 01:03:05,786 --> 01:03:08,055 Because humans love to have someone to hate, right? 1202 01:03:08,088 --> 01:03:12,126 We've had some of the pilots and the intelligence people talking about them. 1203 01:03:12,159 --> 01:03:16,864 And now we learn that this is an ongoing situation and it's not just UFOs. 1204 01:03:16,897 --> 01:03:19,768 There's frankly, they've been looking at other things which sound like 1205 01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,737 they come straight out of an X-Files script. 1206 01:03:22,771 --> 01:03:26,874 And the demagogues running these information warfare programs 1207 01:03:26,907 --> 01:03:28,643 and psychological warfare programs, 1208 01:03:28,677 --> 01:03:29,977 they know human nature. 1209 01:03:30,010 --> 01:03:33,113 They know how they can trigger people into fear, 1210 01:03:33,147 --> 01:03:36,383 but also into sort of, let's unite people around an enemy. 1211 01:03:36,417 --> 01:03:42,156 Short of a couple of little green men landing on the South Lawn 1212 01:03:42,189 --> 01:03:43,424 of the North Lawn of the White House 1213 01:03:43,457 --> 01:03:45,225 and saying hi to the press corps there, 1214 01:03:45,259 --> 01:03:47,995 or landing at the next Super Bowl 1215 01:03:48,028 --> 01:03:49,731 and dropping in, 1216 01:03:49,764 --> 01:03:54,468 what is the bridge between these videos. 1217 01:03:54,501 --> 01:03:59,741 And we know that whatever this thing is, it is not human. 1218 01:03:59,774 --> 01:04:00,941 They want a new enemy. 1219 01:04:00,974 --> 01:04:02,976 They've been wanting to build up a new enemy. 1220 01:04:03,010 --> 01:04:04,244 The Pentagon office. 1221 01:04:04,278 --> 01:04:06,480 A lot of the folks I know in this city 1222 01:04:06,514 --> 01:04:11,018 absolutely realize that that office is sort of a window dressing 1223 01:04:11,051 --> 01:04:14,922 to comply with the congressional bill that was passed 1224 01:04:14,955 --> 01:04:18,727 mandating that the director of national intelligence and the Pentagon 1225 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,663 report to the Congress this issue. 1226 01:04:21,696 --> 01:04:26,668 But, a true investigation absolutely is not writ large. 1227 01:04:26,701 --> 01:04:30,904 I'm on the record here, and I'm in a position to say this authoritatively. 1228 01:04:30,938 --> 01:04:32,540 It's going to happen from that office. 1229 01:04:32,574 --> 01:04:33,440 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING] 1230 01:04:37,545 --> 01:04:39,614 I think what's going to have to happen with UFO, 1231 01:04:39,647 --> 01:04:43,016 we're going to have somebody on the inside who is going to have to leak it. 1232 01:04:43,050 --> 01:04:46,253 Is going to have to leak some stuff. 1233 01:04:46,286 --> 01:04:51,693 -Photographs... -Would that be in danger with breaking NDAs? 1234 01:04:51,726 --> 01:04:54,194 -Yeah, absolutely. -They're getting... It's illegal. 1235 01:04:54,228 --> 01:04:55,663 They risk going to jail. 1236 01:04:55,697 --> 01:04:59,768 But, what if they're revealing is an illegal operation? 1237 01:04:59,801 --> 01:05:04,004 Therefore, it'd be covering something that's illegal. 1238 01:05:04,037 --> 01:05:05,673 So, there wouldn't be any... 1239 01:05:05,707 --> 01:05:08,275 You're trust the crooks to give you a fair trial? 1240 01:05:08,308 --> 01:05:12,346 If you're a whistleblower, I don't know if there's a benefit to come forward, 1241 01:05:12,379 --> 01:05:15,884 unless you're thinking big picture here, because they had to sign 1242 01:05:15,916 --> 01:05:18,352 multiple nondisclosure agreements, 1243 01:05:18,385 --> 01:05:20,921 so they are still bound under all that. 1244 01:05:20,954 --> 01:05:24,826 But, again, if we go back to this extra-constitutional concept, 1245 01:05:24,859 --> 01:05:28,162 if it was a rogue concept from the very beginning 1246 01:05:28,195 --> 01:05:29,898 and went against the Constitution, 1247 01:05:29,930 --> 01:05:33,735 then they are technically not under the umbrella of that law. 1248 01:05:33,768 --> 01:05:36,236 And so, that's kind of the thing that we are fighting here. 1249 01:05:36,270 --> 01:05:38,873 I don't think the whistleblowers are going to come forward 1250 01:05:38,907 --> 01:05:41,375 until they feel completely safe to do so. 1251 01:05:41,408 --> 01:05:44,011 So, it will have to come down from the very top 1252 01:05:44,044 --> 01:05:48,850 that all of those rulings and restrictions have been completely rescinded. 1253 01:05:48,883 --> 01:05:52,854 Then we might have an influx of more whistleblowers. 1254 01:05:52,887 --> 01:05:56,223 [INTERVIEWER SPEAKING] 1255 01:05:56,256 --> 01:05:58,893 I don't think any whistleblowers would be compensated, 1256 01:05:58,927 --> 01:06:02,730 but I'm also sure that a lot of them are dying to tell their story. 1257 01:06:02,764 --> 01:06:05,365 Because the clock is ticking, and as Stanton Friedman 1258 01:06:05,399 --> 01:06:07,000 had talked about so many times, 1259 01:06:07,034 --> 01:06:09,102 we are racing the undertaker 1260 01:06:09,136 --> 01:06:12,372 and at this time, at this late in the game, 1261 01:06:12,406 --> 01:06:14,776 really, the undertaker has won. 1262 01:06:14,809 --> 01:06:16,544 Because this is 60, 70... 1263 01:06:16,578 --> 01:06:19,112 We are now at the 75th anniversary of Roswell. 1264 01:06:19,146 --> 01:06:20,981 And how far are we in ufology? 1265 01:06:21,014 --> 01:06:22,449 I mean, we've made some progress, 1266 01:06:22,483 --> 01:06:24,953 but we still don't have access to the bodies, 1267 01:06:24,985 --> 01:06:27,154 we still don't have access to the debris, 1268 01:06:27,187 --> 01:06:29,524 we still don't have access to the gun camera footage, 1269 01:06:29,557 --> 01:06:33,293 which we know they have and it's a fact. 1270 01:06:33,327 --> 01:06:35,864 So, what do we need to do? 1271 01:06:35,897 --> 01:06:38,432 We have got to get to this evidence. 1272 01:06:38,465 --> 01:06:41,201 We can't have any more CE1s anymore. 1273 01:06:41,235 --> 01:06:43,036 That's really completely useless. 1274 01:06:43,070 --> 01:06:46,106 We need to get to the physical evidence and then we'll be moving forward. 1275 01:06:47,174 --> 01:06:48,676 Just a couple weeks ago, 1276 01:06:48,710 --> 01:06:51,445 I am directly knowledgeable about the fact 1277 01:06:51,478 --> 01:06:54,816 that our Air Force sometimes engages kinetically, 1278 01:06:54,849 --> 01:06:58,620 which means fires upon what we know to be UFOs. 1279 01:06:58,653 --> 01:07:00,822 Some of these people have stated that they 1280 01:07:00,855 --> 01:07:04,959 have regular encounters with these crafts. 1281 01:07:04,993 --> 01:07:06,426 Regular encounters. 1282 01:07:06,460 --> 01:07:08,963 Are we engaging them with the firepower? 1283 01:07:08,997 --> 01:07:10,497 Are we shooting at them? 1284 01:07:10,532 --> 01:07:11,599 No, we're not. 1285 01:07:11,633 --> 01:07:13,200 Corbell was saying that 1286 01:07:13,233 --> 01:07:16,303 we actually have been firing upon these UAPs 1287 01:07:16,336 --> 01:07:19,841 as of a month or so ago, as of a while ago, 1288 01:07:19,874 --> 01:07:21,743 and that we've been engaging them 1289 01:07:21,776 --> 01:07:24,979 in that military aggressive stance. 1290 01:07:25,013 --> 01:07:30,652 And Congressman Tim actually said the opposite. 1291 01:07:30,685 --> 01:07:32,554 He said, "No, there is no way 1292 01:07:32,587 --> 01:07:35,489 that we would fire upon these UAPs 1293 01:07:35,523 --> 01:07:39,527 just for the sheer technological superiority 1294 01:07:39,561 --> 01:07:40,828 of these vehicles." 1295 01:07:40,862 --> 01:07:42,797 I mean, can you imagine 1296 01:07:42,830 --> 01:07:46,568 getting one of these vehicles really pissed at you 1297 01:07:46,601 --> 01:07:52,540 if you're just in a conventional jet propulsion engine plane? 1298 01:07:52,574 --> 01:07:55,510 You know, it wouldn't be good. It just wouldn't be good. 1299 01:07:55,543 --> 01:07:58,078 And I think the people who give the call, 1300 01:07:58,111 --> 01:08:01,481 the green light, red light, to go ahead and shoot, 1301 01:08:01,516 --> 01:08:03,685 I think they know that. They know that. 1302 01:08:03,718 --> 01:08:06,320 And they feel that dissuasion. 1303 01:08:06,353 --> 01:08:09,089 They feel that they shouldn't shoot at these things, 1304 01:08:09,122 --> 01:08:10,558 because it would turn out real bad. 1305 01:08:12,392 --> 01:08:14,227 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING] 1306 01:08:18,231 --> 01:08:22,369 MAN: So if the President of the United States wanted to hire SEAL Team Six 1307 01:08:22,402 --> 01:08:26,608 or a Special Force operation to bust down the walls at Area 51, 1308 01:08:26,641 --> 01:08:30,110 our private corporation, would that be possible? 1309 01:08:30,143 --> 01:08:32,479 I don't really think it's going to happen quite that way. 1310 01:08:34,882 --> 01:08:39,053 In terms of, you know, them busting into places and bringing things out. 1311 01:08:39,087 --> 01:08:42,690 It's going to be a negotiated situation by using leverage. 1312 01:08:42,724 --> 01:08:48,029 Now, what does the legal constitutional government of the United States have 1313 01:08:48,062 --> 01:08:51,099 that these organizations don't have? 1314 01:08:51,131 --> 01:08:52,734 The rule of law, 1315 01:08:52,767 --> 01:08:57,905 the Constitution, prosecutorial powers, and subpoena powers. 1316 01:08:57,939 --> 01:08:59,406 So at a certain point, 1317 01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,910 once I have been given enough specific information 1318 01:09:02,944 --> 01:09:06,848 that they have gotten into and seen that this is real, 1319 01:09:06,881 --> 01:09:10,618 it then becomes a matter of political and social will 1320 01:09:10,652 --> 01:09:13,821 to bring these projects to heel 1321 01:09:13,855 --> 01:09:16,156 and put them on a leash 1322 01:09:16,189 --> 01:09:18,325 so that they are overseen appropriately 1323 01:09:18,358 --> 01:09:21,294 by we, the people, and our people's representatives. 1324 01:09:21,328 --> 01:09:25,566 So, that is really how that's going to happen. 1325 01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:27,902 You know, someone recommended when Obama got inaugurated, 1326 01:09:27,935 --> 01:09:31,139 that I recommend that he go in with tactical nuclear weapons 1327 01:09:31,171 --> 01:09:33,041 into some of these facilities. 1328 01:09:33,074 --> 01:09:35,275 And I said, "This is the craziest thing I ever heard of." 1329 01:09:35,308 --> 01:09:37,477 I said, "No, I'm not going to recommend that." 1330 01:09:37,512 --> 01:09:38,946 But, it wouldn't work anyway, 1331 01:09:38,980 --> 01:09:41,683 because they would just self-destruct all those assets. 1332 01:09:41,716 --> 01:09:44,085 So they have things in place to do that. 1333 01:09:44,118 --> 01:09:46,888 So it has to be done very smart. 1334 01:09:46,921 --> 01:09:52,426 You know, now there has to be a serious, um... threat, 1335 01:09:52,459 --> 01:09:54,862 not a violent threat, of consequences. 1336 01:09:54,896 --> 01:09:57,932 Because, ultimately, if a group organization, 1337 01:09:57,965 --> 01:10:00,702 corporation, stays on that path, 1338 01:10:00,735 --> 01:10:03,370 they're actually committing treason 1339 01:10:03,403 --> 01:10:06,306 and treason can be prosecuted 1340 01:10:06,339 --> 01:10:08,843 up to and including execution, federally. 1341 01:10:08,876 --> 01:10:11,913 So, once you establish that that's what's going on, 1342 01:10:12,547 --> 01:10:13,981 which we have, 1343 01:10:14,015 --> 01:10:16,617 then it's about using that power. 1344 01:10:16,651 --> 01:10:18,019 And as I've said, 1345 01:10:18,052 --> 01:10:20,988 I've said to them many times in the last few months, 1346 01:10:21,022 --> 01:10:25,526 you're either going to make the U.S. government relevant on this issue or not. 1347 01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:27,461 And that's... I don't control that. 1348 01:10:27,494 --> 01:10:31,298 But, all I can do is advise this is the approach you should be taking. 1349 01:10:31,331 --> 01:10:33,000 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING] 1350 01:10:43,878 --> 01:10:48,583 [INTERVIEWER SPEAKING] 1351 01:10:52,352 --> 01:10:54,421 DR. GREER: No, I don't worry about that. No. There was a time I did. 1352 01:10:56,524 --> 01:11:00,561 But you know, there are other ways to do that, obviously. 1353 01:11:00,595 --> 01:11:04,565 Even if your cell phone is off, um, totally off, 1354 01:11:04,599 --> 01:11:06,968 they're tracking and monitoring. 1355 01:11:07,001 --> 01:11:09,570 All my email is continuously monitored. 1356 01:11:09,604 --> 01:11:12,907 Anything important it gets to me gets diverted, as you've seen. 1357 01:11:12,940 --> 01:11:18,445 This is happening now to some of the folks in the investigation here in D.C. 1358 01:11:18,478 --> 01:11:20,982 And I said this is just to be expected. 1359 01:11:21,015 --> 01:11:24,384 You're not going to, you know, be able to get around that. 1360 01:11:24,417 --> 01:11:28,523 But it's, you know. Look, you know, 1361 01:11:28,556 --> 01:11:31,559 when you look at way back in 1950, 1362 01:11:31,592 --> 01:11:33,528 the Wilbur Smith documentary said 1363 01:11:33,561 --> 01:11:36,030 "this is the most classified project in the history of the United States, 1364 01:11:36,063 --> 01:11:39,499 exceeding the development of a hydrogen bomb," right? 1365 01:11:39,534 --> 01:11:42,236 We hadn't detonated a hydrogen bomb yet. 1366 01:11:42,270 --> 01:11:46,207 And it is, to this day, still in that level. 1367 01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:50,443 Except, they went deep black beyond constitutional oversight 1368 01:11:50,477 --> 01:11:54,414 between 1945 and 1955. 1369 01:11:54,447 --> 01:11:58,085 That was the decade, by the way, where the whole thing went off the rails. 1370 01:11:58,119 --> 01:12:01,722 But, the technologies and the capabilities they have, 1371 01:12:01,756 --> 01:12:05,660 even people who are read into National Security Agency, CIA, 1372 01:12:05,693 --> 01:12:11,999 and the National Reconnaissance Office of Technology and Satellites, 1373 01:12:12,033 --> 01:12:15,903 they're not read into the means that this organization has, 1374 01:12:15,937 --> 01:12:18,039 this covert secret government group, 1375 01:12:18,072 --> 01:12:20,141 and that's why they're always shocked, 1376 01:12:20,174 --> 01:12:22,009 because they think they're using encryption 1377 01:12:22,043 --> 01:12:23,811 and everything's known instantly. 1378 01:12:23,845 --> 01:12:25,880 They think they are, you know, in a skiff, 1379 01:12:25,913 --> 01:12:28,516 and everything that's done in there is known instantly. 1380 01:12:29,116 --> 01:12:30,218 And I warn people. 1381 01:12:30,251 --> 01:12:33,287 I started warning people that in 1993, 1382 01:12:33,321 --> 01:12:35,656 when the man who set up my meeting with the CI director 1383 01:12:35,690 --> 01:12:38,793 wanted me to be going to phone booths, talking in code 1384 01:12:38,826 --> 01:12:39,660 [CHUCKLES] 1385 01:12:40,493 --> 01:12:41,762 so nobody would know. 1386 01:12:41,796 --> 01:12:43,430 And I said, "John, this is not going to work." 1387 01:12:43,463 --> 01:12:46,000 Because, even by '93 I'd been read into 1388 01:12:46,033 --> 01:12:47,969 what the technologies were 1389 01:12:48,002 --> 01:12:52,773 that can go totally around conventional signals intelligence. 1390 01:12:52,807 --> 01:12:54,876 So, anyway. 1391 01:12:54,909 --> 01:12:57,511 You know, you just arrived, so I'm very patient with it, 1392 01:12:57,545 --> 01:12:59,714 because I understand the SEC ops 1393 01:12:59,747 --> 01:13:04,518 security ops that people have to do to comply with their regulations. 1394 01:13:04,552 --> 01:13:06,354 Those are employed in the government. 1395 01:13:06,386 --> 01:13:09,156 I, on the other hand, have never been in the government and never... 1396 01:13:09,190 --> 01:13:11,692 I paid a few million dollars in taxes, 1397 01:13:11,726 --> 01:13:13,527 but I've never gotten an Indian Head nickel. 1398 01:13:13,561 --> 01:13:15,630 But, um... 1399 01:13:15,663 --> 01:13:19,300 But, that's something I just understand, 1400 01:13:20,868 --> 01:13:23,871 because that's the way, you know, their world works. 1401 01:13:23,905 --> 01:13:27,875 But, I just tell them, "Don't expect it to keep you from being tracked 1402 01:13:27,909 --> 01:13:29,377 and monitored in real time." 1403 01:13:29,409 --> 01:13:31,779 I mean, after all, I mean, except for the names 1404 01:13:31,812 --> 01:13:32,980 and personal confidences I keep, 1405 01:13:33,014 --> 01:13:34,515 which I'm very strict about. 1406 01:13:36,183 --> 01:13:37,251 You know, you figure... 1407 01:13:39,153 --> 01:13:42,723 I'm not going to keep a secret from any of these guys. 1408 01:13:42,757 --> 01:13:44,491 As Ben Rich said, 1409 01:13:44,525 --> 01:13:46,827 "There are no private conversations anywhere on the planet." 1410 01:13:46,861 --> 01:13:48,396 That was one of the things Ben Rich said 1411 01:13:49,063 --> 01:13:50,865 in that lecture. 1412 01:13:50,898 --> 01:13:52,533 And that's true, by the way. 1413 01:13:54,602 --> 01:13:58,239 So, you know, once you realize that, then why waste the time? 1414 01:13:58,272 --> 01:14:00,908 I tell people strategically, if you do a lot of, 1415 01:14:00,942 --> 01:14:03,177 you know, spy versus spy weirdness, 1416 01:14:03,210 --> 01:14:05,179 trying to be so paranoid, 1417 01:14:05,212 --> 01:14:08,182 then all you're doing is slowing yourself and your team down. 1418 01:14:08,215 --> 01:14:10,551 But, you're not slowing down your adversaries here, 1419 01:14:10,584 --> 01:14:13,955 the people, you know, the criminal organization doing this. 1420 01:14:13,988 --> 01:14:17,692 Because, they got technologies that are many generations ahead 1421 01:14:17,725 --> 01:14:21,362 of what even folks who are managing the black budget know about. 1422 01:14:21,395 --> 01:14:24,165 So, you know, at a certain point 1423 01:14:24,198 --> 01:14:26,567 once you realize that, it's very liberating. 1424 01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,703 Why? Because you don't have to keep a secret. 1425 01:14:28,736 --> 01:14:30,237 You just, you know, like I said, 1426 01:14:30,271 --> 01:14:32,440 the only thing when I'm talking to people, 1427 01:14:32,472 --> 01:14:36,711 is that if I have, you know, a colonel or some operative 1428 01:14:36,744 --> 01:14:39,714 out of Area 51 contact me 1429 01:14:39,747 --> 01:14:42,482 and wants their name to be kept strictly quiet, 1430 01:14:43,384 --> 01:14:44,885 I keep their confidence. 1431 01:14:44,919 --> 01:14:48,089 You know, but other than that, the information, 1432 01:14:48,122 --> 01:14:50,725 and it's sort of like the Chatham House rules 1433 01:14:50,758 --> 01:14:52,360 in London, the think tank, 1434 01:14:52,393 --> 01:14:54,195 I went to a secret meeting once, 1435 01:14:54,228 --> 01:14:56,297 and they invoked the Chatham House rules. 1436 01:14:56,330 --> 01:14:58,065 And what that is, 1437 01:14:58,099 --> 01:15:01,035 it means that you can share anything you hear at the meeting, 1438 01:15:01,068 --> 01:15:04,271 but you can't cite who said it. 1439 01:15:04,305 --> 01:15:07,008 You can't disclose who the source was. 1440 01:15:07,041 --> 01:15:11,746 So, I was there as the keynote talking about these technologies and this issue 1441 01:15:11,779 --> 01:15:15,583 to a whole group of elites on an island off the coast of Australia. 1442 01:15:15,616 --> 01:15:19,820 There's about 120 global elites there. 1443 01:15:19,854 --> 01:15:25,593 But, the reality is more than 90 percent of all the men and a few women that come to me, 1444 01:15:25,626 --> 01:15:29,463 they're not wanting to have their identities known in the public. 1445 01:15:29,497 --> 01:15:32,666 They may be happy to let their identities be known to the folks 1446 01:15:32,700 --> 01:15:35,569 that I'm providing materials to here in Washington, 1447 01:15:35,603 --> 01:15:38,939 but not to the general public. 1448 01:15:40,374 --> 01:15:43,277 So I go, "Okay, that means that's your requirement." 1449 01:15:43,310 --> 01:15:45,980 So I think there is, you know, a whole ethics around this, 1450 01:15:46,013 --> 01:15:49,150 which is also very old-fashioned, some would say. 1451 01:15:49,183 --> 01:15:51,652 But, you know, being trained as a doctor, 1452 01:15:51,685 --> 01:15:53,988 you know, it's like doctor-patient privilege. 1453 01:15:54,021 --> 01:15:56,857 And they know I'm going to be very strict about that. 1454 01:15:58,993 --> 01:16:02,797 One of the problems you run into when you're dealing with an area 1455 01:16:02,830 --> 01:16:06,767 where you absolutely need and require a security clearance, 1456 01:16:06,801 --> 01:16:10,638 and you send signed a nondisclosure agreement. 1457 01:16:10,671 --> 01:16:14,008 What are the ramifications if you decide to go public? 1458 01:16:14,041 --> 01:16:15,876 You know Bob Lazar did it. 1459 01:16:15,910 --> 01:16:19,146 He decided that it was worth the risk. 1460 01:16:19,180 --> 01:16:22,450 Because he felt that his life was in danger. 1461 01:16:22,483 --> 01:16:25,986 And that may be, you know, the... 1462 01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:28,089 the catalyst that... 1463 01:16:29,824 --> 01:16:31,959 makes someone else decide, 1464 01:16:31,992 --> 01:16:33,427 "I'm going to do what's right. 1465 01:16:33,461 --> 01:16:36,330 I'm going to go public on what I know, what I've seen." 1466 01:16:37,398 --> 01:16:39,266 And that has to happen. 1467 01:16:39,300 --> 01:16:43,170 There's got to be legislation put forward. 1468 01:16:43,204 --> 01:16:45,840 I don't think it's going to happen with this President. 1469 01:16:46,575 --> 01:16:47,875 Maybe his replacement. 1470 01:16:50,444 --> 01:16:53,515 But it has to be done because this information has to get out. 1471 01:16:55,416 --> 01:16:59,220 If we are being visited by 1472 01:16:59,253 --> 01:17:02,591 interdimensional beings from wherever, 1473 01:17:03,525 --> 01:17:04,959 we should know about it. 1474 01:17:04,992 --> 01:17:08,496 I mean, if you don't know who your adversary is, 1475 01:17:08,530 --> 01:17:12,333 if you don't know who the enemy of the people are, you know, 1476 01:17:12,366 --> 01:17:13,934 besides the federal government, 1477 01:17:15,903 --> 01:17:18,205 you know, you're putting yourself in a disadvantage. 1478 01:17:18,239 --> 01:17:19,874 And I'm talking about the world in general, 1479 01:17:19,907 --> 01:17:21,408 not just individuals. 1480 01:17:22,209 --> 01:17:24,044 And I want to know. 1481 01:17:24,078 --> 01:17:26,280 And I've been criticized for asking, 1482 01:17:26,313 --> 01:17:28,649 demanding answers from my government. 1483 01:17:30,317 --> 01:17:32,052 But, it is my government, 1484 01:17:32,086 --> 01:17:35,890 and it's for the people, by the people. 1485 01:17:35,923 --> 01:17:41,795 You know, there are people in some of these organizations feel that, you know, 1486 01:17:41,829 --> 01:17:43,397 they are God Almighty. 1487 01:17:43,430 --> 01:17:45,600 They have, you know, they have all the information 1488 01:17:45,634 --> 01:17:49,470 and we can control your destiny by what we know, 1489 01:17:49,503 --> 01:17:51,672 and we're not going to share that information with you. 1490 01:17:52,473 --> 01:17:54,074 And to me, that's baloney. 1491 01:17:54,108 --> 01:17:56,443 That's, you know, that's un-American, and that's just wrong. 1492 01:17:56,477 --> 01:17:57,778 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING] 1493 01:17:59,980 --> 01:18:01,282 Well, this is a big question. 1494 01:18:01,315 --> 01:18:03,484 It's like, if we can make this happen, 1495 01:18:03,518 --> 01:18:07,488 an actual, honest disclosure of this subject would include 1496 01:18:07,522 --> 01:18:10,124 not only the fact that we're not alone in the universe 1497 01:18:10,157 --> 01:18:12,293 and that we need a diplomatic effort 1498 01:18:13,494 --> 01:18:15,896 to reach out to these civilizations, 1499 01:18:15,930 --> 01:18:18,766 but the 70 years of research and development 1500 01:18:18,799 --> 01:18:23,270 of astonishing technologies that would transform the world, 1501 01:18:23,304 --> 01:18:26,173 those would begin to come out 1502 01:18:26,207 --> 01:18:30,311 and the world in ten, 20, 30, 40 years from now, 1503 01:18:30,344 --> 01:18:32,313 won't even look like this planet. 1504 01:18:32,346 --> 01:18:35,249 I mean, every aspect of our civilization 1505 01:18:35,282 --> 01:18:38,252 will just be raised to a much higher level 1506 01:18:38,285 --> 01:18:40,321 of prosperity, abundance. 1507 01:18:42,056 --> 01:18:43,958 Free, clean energy. 1508 01:18:43,991 --> 01:18:48,329 Transport, eventually, will be above ground. 1509 01:18:48,362 --> 01:18:50,464 So, it's a very exciting world. 1510 01:18:50,497 --> 01:18:53,400 And, you know, once you get to the point where civilization 1511 01:18:53,434 --> 01:18:55,135 has that kind of abundance 1512 01:18:55,970 --> 01:18:59,373 and social justice, 1513 01:18:59,406 --> 01:19:01,710 then you can actually begin talking about having peace. 1514 01:19:02,677 --> 01:19:04,044 Globally. 1515 01:19:04,078 --> 01:19:08,516 And so the whole world can take this big leap forward, 1516 01:19:08,550 --> 01:19:10,484 a quantum movement forward. 1517 01:19:10,518 --> 01:19:12,721 But, it's not going to happen 1518 01:19:12,753 --> 01:19:15,289 unless we change what we're doing. 1519 01:19:15,322 --> 01:19:17,891 You know, this is why I left my medical career, 1520 01:19:17,925 --> 01:19:19,426 because the implications of this... 1521 01:19:20,562 --> 01:19:22,564 is the difference between us 1522 01:19:22,597 --> 01:19:24,498 heading in the direction we are now, 1523 01:19:24,532 --> 01:19:27,868 which is an extinction-level civilization, 1524 01:19:27,901 --> 01:19:30,371 versus one that's going to take off to the stars 1525 01:19:30,404 --> 01:19:31,472 and go forever. 1526 01:19:31,506 --> 01:19:32,339 It's beautiful. 1527 01:19:33,440 --> 01:19:35,876 So, that's the consequences. 1528 01:19:35,909 --> 01:19:38,946 This happened, unfortunately, to the Trump administration. 1529 01:19:38,979 --> 01:19:42,717 I was trying to intervene when they were being approached by people 1530 01:19:42,751 --> 01:19:46,053 who were going into the White House 1531 01:19:46,086 --> 01:19:51,325 with briefing dossiers filled with these terrifying accounts, 1532 01:19:51,358 --> 01:19:54,862 so that they could convince the President and the Vice President 1533 01:19:54,895 --> 01:19:56,864 that there was an "alien threat". 1534 01:19:56,897 --> 01:19:58,866 And, unfortunately, they were so convinced, 1535 01:19:58,899 --> 01:20:01,536 and subsequently we got something called the Space Force, 1536 01:20:01,569 --> 01:20:03,837 which has various purposes. 1537 01:20:03,871 --> 01:20:07,374 But, part of it is to be kicked into gear, 1538 01:20:07,408 --> 01:20:10,244 once they disclose, falsely, there 1539 01:20:10,277 --> 01:20:12,580 being a threat from outer space. 1540 01:20:12,614 --> 01:20:14,081 So, this is something that is, you know, 1541 01:20:14,114 --> 01:20:15,684 people say, "Oh, it's a conspiracy theory." 1542 01:20:15,717 --> 01:20:17,951 I said, "No. There are conspiracies that are facts." 1543 01:20:19,119 --> 01:20:20,487 There is something called the Mafia. 1544 01:20:21,422 --> 01:20:23,792 There are criminal conspiracies. 1545 01:20:23,824 --> 01:20:25,859 The people running these projects 1546 01:20:25,893 --> 01:20:31,031 are the largest conspiracy of criminals in the history 1547 01:20:31,065 --> 01:20:32,734 of the world. Bar none. 1548 01:20:32,767 --> 01:20:34,636 There's nothing that comes close. 1549 01:20:34,669 --> 01:20:36,771 Now, I can prove that in a court of law. 1550 01:20:36,805 --> 01:20:38,872 What I just said can be proven. 1551 01:20:38,906 --> 01:20:41,375 But, we hope it doesn't get to that. 1552 01:20:41,408 --> 01:20:44,244 What we hope is that the truth can come out. 1553 01:20:44,278 --> 01:20:47,314 The problem is, we are very much the underdog 1554 01:20:47,348 --> 01:20:49,718 in trying to educate the public on this 1555 01:20:49,751 --> 01:20:52,152 in a way that's objective and factual, 1556 01:20:52,186 --> 01:20:54,789 and that could lead to a positive outcome. 1557 01:20:54,823 --> 01:20:57,057 You know, what good is it to go from 1558 01:20:57,091 --> 01:21:00,027 geopolitical tensions over China and Taiwan, 1559 01:21:00,060 --> 01:21:01,796 and Russia and Ukraine, 1560 01:21:01,830 --> 01:21:05,700 and then expand those global tensions to an interplanetary level? 1561 01:21:05,734 --> 01:21:10,971 Well, this is not going forward for our civilization and our species for humans. 1562 01:21:11,004 --> 01:21:13,107 So, this is the big challenge. 1563 01:21:13,140 --> 01:21:15,109 It's a battle for the minds and hearts 1564 01:21:15,142 --> 01:21:16,745 of the people of the world. 1565 01:21:16,778 --> 01:21:19,581 This is really what... It's not an evidential issue now. 1566 01:21:19,614 --> 01:21:22,182 I mean, even the government has said, that's real. 1567 01:21:22,216 --> 01:21:23,718 The UFOs are real. 1568 01:21:23,752 --> 01:21:27,287 UAPs, whatever the nom of the day is, 1569 01:21:27,321 --> 01:21:30,891 you know, that the name of the hour is. 1570 01:21:30,924 --> 01:21:34,094 You notice they keep changing the name to bigger and bigger fake names. 1571 01:21:34,729 --> 01:21:36,798 But, in reality, 1572 01:21:36,831 --> 01:21:39,466 this is exactly what I had predicted 1573 01:21:39,500 --> 01:21:42,169 back in the '90s when I saw the plan 1574 01:21:42,202 --> 01:21:43,538 for what was going on 1575 01:21:43,571 --> 01:21:45,939 and had people inside the system say, 1576 01:21:45,973 --> 01:21:48,510 "This is what we're doing and this is how we're doing it." 1577 01:21:49,811 --> 01:21:53,648 Now, this has the big disadvantage of the truth 1578 01:21:53,681 --> 01:21:56,751 being much more unbelievable 1579 01:21:57,585 --> 01:21:59,453 than the fiction. 1580 01:21:59,486 --> 01:22:01,856 The fiction everyone thinks is going on, 1581 01:22:01,890 --> 01:22:07,261 like this blinkered professor who was this guy, Garry Nolan, 1582 01:22:07,294 --> 01:22:11,064 who I sort of introduced to this subject some years ago. 1583 01:22:11,098 --> 01:22:14,836 People like that just take the bait, hook, line, and sinker. 1584 01:22:14,869 --> 01:22:17,204 But, they don't have the depth and breadth of contacts 1585 01:22:17,237 --> 01:22:19,607 to verify anything they're talking about. 1586 01:22:19,641 --> 01:22:20,875 They'll just get a case. 1587 01:22:20,909 --> 01:22:22,376 "Oh, This happened to this person." 1588 01:22:23,243 --> 01:22:24,378 They don't ask the question. 1589 01:22:25,412 --> 01:22:26,514 How did it happen? 1590 01:22:26,548 --> 01:22:27,682 Who did it? 1591 01:22:27,715 --> 01:22:29,584 Why might it have been done? 1592 01:22:29,617 --> 01:22:31,385 Well, it wasn't "aliens". 1593 01:22:31,418 --> 01:22:34,556 And I believe that they have done this successfully a few more times. 1594 01:22:34,589 --> 01:22:37,592 And have possibly been reverse-engineering these things for decades. 1595 01:22:37,625 --> 01:22:39,026 And right now, 1596 01:22:39,059 --> 01:22:41,863 they're so advanced they have something called a TR3B, 1597 01:22:41,896 --> 01:22:45,032 which is the most widely-seen UFO right now, 1598 01:22:45,065 --> 01:22:46,835 which actually is not alien. 1599 01:22:46,868 --> 01:22:48,402 It's actually ours. 1600 01:22:48,435 --> 01:22:51,739 And these TR3Bs are triangular-shaped crafts 1601 01:22:51,773 --> 01:22:53,908 with a rotating ring at the bottom. 1602 01:22:53,942 --> 01:22:57,077 And these things are capable of anti-gravity, flying silent, 1603 01:22:57,110 --> 01:23:00,481 moving at incredible speeds, they create an anti-gravity bubble, 1604 01:23:00,515 --> 01:23:04,552 which allows the pilot to not feel the G-forces like a normal flight pilot would, 1605 01:23:04,586 --> 01:23:07,722 a fighter pilot would, in a different kind of plane. 1606 01:23:07,755 --> 01:23:10,190 And so some of these things are creating 1607 01:23:10,224 --> 01:23:11,893 different types of side effects, 1608 01:23:11,926 --> 01:23:13,427 different levels of radiation, 1609 01:23:13,460 --> 01:23:15,329 and other types of exotic energies 1610 01:23:15,362 --> 01:23:17,130 that are being emitted from these things. 1611 01:23:17,164 --> 01:23:19,534 Specifically, the fact that it seems to be 1612 01:23:19,567 --> 01:23:23,504 running off of some type of electrified mercury vortex. 1613 01:23:23,538 --> 01:23:27,609 Which means, if that gets out or if that leaks or drips, 1614 01:23:27,642 --> 01:23:30,678 or comes in contact with anybody, any skin, any human being 1615 01:23:30,712 --> 01:23:34,047 or any biological material, it's going to permanently damage it. 1616 01:23:34,081 --> 01:23:38,285 So, it could be that some of these UFOs, UAPs are actually ours, 1617 01:23:38,318 --> 01:23:41,021 and there's bad side effects to this technology 1618 01:23:41,054 --> 01:23:43,525 as we begin to learn how to develop it and actually perfect it. 1619 01:23:44,324 --> 01:23:45,527 A classic case. 1620 01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,228 One of the most famous cases. Cash-Landrum. 1621 01:23:49,631 --> 01:23:51,331 So, there's a case to illustrate... 1622 01:23:53,133 --> 01:23:54,034 uncontested. 1623 01:23:55,269 --> 01:23:57,639 These women were outside Houston, 1624 01:23:57,672 --> 01:24:03,243 and there was a extraterrestrial vehicle that we had captured, 1625 01:24:03,277 --> 01:24:05,947 that we were test flying and we could not get 1626 01:24:05,980 --> 01:24:07,815 the energy system to run properly, 1627 01:24:07,849 --> 01:24:10,150 so we put, stupidly, 1628 01:24:10,183 --> 01:24:13,487 a portable nuclear reactor on the thing for energy, 1629 01:24:13,521 --> 01:24:16,256 like some of the space satellites 1630 01:24:16,290 --> 01:24:18,158 and some other objects we put up. 1631 01:24:18,191 --> 01:24:21,596 But this is flying over U. S. territory. 1632 01:24:21,629 --> 01:24:23,565 They had a malfunction on it. 1633 01:24:24,498 --> 01:24:26,466 And we know this because 1634 01:24:26,500 --> 01:24:30,170 an Air Force Office of Special Investigations official, 1635 01:24:30,203 --> 01:24:33,541 who was the principal investigator of this accident, 1636 01:24:33,575 --> 01:24:36,476 has testified on camera for us about this. 1637 01:24:36,511 --> 01:24:40,048 But, as it was flying along and it had this malfunction, 1638 01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:43,017 it started spewing radioactive material on people. 1639 01:24:43,051 --> 01:24:47,822 Now, of course, the nuts in the UFO conspiracy theories, 1640 01:24:47,855 --> 01:24:50,058 now this is the conspiracy theory, 1641 01:24:50,090 --> 01:24:52,192 We're going, "Oh, my God, the aliens are radiating people 1642 01:24:52,225 --> 01:24:53,861 and killing, injuring people." 1643 01:24:53,895 --> 01:24:56,965 This is just what you just saw had on Fox News. 1644 01:24:56,998 --> 01:25:00,267 Well, actually, it was four humans 1645 01:25:00,300 --> 01:25:05,073 piloting and older extraterrestrial vehicle 1646 01:25:05,105 --> 01:25:09,677 that humans had put on a small nuclear reactor 1647 01:25:09,711 --> 01:25:12,145 that malfunctioned, and was totally 1648 01:25:12,179 --> 01:25:15,315 a human covert black project, 1649 01:25:15,349 --> 01:25:17,217 military mishap. 1650 01:25:17,250 --> 01:25:20,855 And those women who were... they were hospitalized and badly injured 1651 01:25:21,789 --> 01:25:24,391 with radiation illness. 1652 01:25:24,424 --> 01:25:28,563 But, they could not sue the government because when they tried, 1653 01:25:28,596 --> 01:25:32,634 the government just said, "We don't know anything about this." 1654 01:25:32,667 --> 01:25:35,803 But, the people who said we don't know anything about it, didn't. 1655 01:25:35,837 --> 01:25:37,905 Because, again, there are two governments. 1656 01:25:37,939 --> 01:25:39,507 There is the government of we, the people, 1657 01:25:39,540 --> 01:25:41,843 and as Senator Inouye, from Hawaii, said, 1658 01:25:41,876 --> 01:25:45,780 "There's a secret government with its own Air Force, its own Navy, 1659 01:25:45,813 --> 01:25:50,150 its own funding mechanism, that's above the law and free from the law itself." 1660 01:25:50,183 --> 01:25:53,521 I'm paraphrasing, but it's very close to the quote. 1661 01:25:53,554 --> 01:25:56,891 Well, when you have that situation, 1662 01:25:56,924 --> 01:25:59,159 an innocent civilian harmed 1663 01:25:59,192 --> 01:26:03,196 by one of these illegal black projects. Deep black. 1664 01:26:04,065 --> 01:26:07,935 Those guys are going to have to, 1665 01:26:08,836 --> 01:26:10,404 you know, they're going to deny 1666 01:26:10,437 --> 01:26:11,906 any involvement, because they're black. 1667 01:26:11,939 --> 01:26:13,908 They're not acknowledged this existing. 1668 01:26:13,941 --> 01:26:16,611 So, when someone goes through a FOIA request 1669 01:26:16,644 --> 01:26:18,012 or the main government, 1670 01:26:18,046 --> 01:26:20,748 the main government, literally, when they say, 1671 01:26:20,782 --> 01:26:24,552 "We don't know. anything about this," they know nothing about it. 1672 01:26:24,585 --> 01:26:26,788 So, this is one of the big problems. 1673 01:26:26,821 --> 01:26:29,657 It's like it's two parallel universes 1674 01:26:29,691 --> 01:26:36,597 between the secret government and the mainstream legal constitutional government. 1675 01:26:36,631 --> 01:26:41,135 This Cash-Landrum case is one of hundreds and hundreds like that. 1676 01:26:41,169 --> 01:26:43,071 All over the world, not just U.S. 1677 01:26:43,104 --> 01:26:46,140 I mean that CI document from 1985 1678 01:26:46,174 --> 01:26:51,145 states explicitly, it was a psychological warfare operation 1679 01:26:51,179 --> 01:26:53,413 staging alien abductions, 1680 01:26:53,447 --> 01:26:58,485 with, you know, poor villagers in Brazil and Argentina. 1681 01:26:58,519 --> 01:27:02,757 So, I am recommending that that document be subpoenaed 1682 01:27:02,790 --> 01:27:04,391 from the people who I know hold it. 1683 01:27:04,424 --> 01:27:06,594 I know three people who hold that document, 1684 01:27:06,627 --> 01:27:07,795 who will not release it. 1685 01:27:07,829 --> 01:27:10,031 I think they're afraid of being killed. 1686 01:27:10,064 --> 01:27:12,432 But, that's really what the agenda is, 1687 01:27:12,466 --> 01:27:14,736 and it's not hard to do. 1688 01:27:14,769 --> 01:27:18,773 Moreover, there have been enough number of accidents 1689 01:27:18,806 --> 01:27:22,810 that have been like the test flying or malfunction 1690 01:27:22,844 --> 01:27:28,315 of a manmade anti-gravity alien reproduction vehicle, 1691 01:27:28,348 --> 01:27:30,383 whatever you want to call them. 1692 01:27:30,417 --> 01:27:35,422 Where they will then make it look like it was some alien unknown UFO, UAP thing. 1693 01:27:35,455 --> 01:27:36,891 Because it's a great cover story. 1694 01:27:36,924 --> 01:27:40,128 It's a great cover story for all kinds of accidents. 1695 01:27:40,161 --> 01:27:45,432 You just sort of blame it on the aliens, right? 1696 01:27:45,465 --> 01:27:49,937 So this is very easy to do when people don't have enough knowledge. 1697 01:27:50,671 --> 01:27:53,241 So, knowledge is power. 1698 01:27:53,273 --> 01:27:57,111 And If you have a government, here and abroad, other governments 1699 01:27:57,145 --> 01:27:58,846 who don't have this knowledge, 1700 01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:01,549 they are powerless over the folks who do, 1701 01:28:01,582 --> 01:28:03,785 and who can do circles around them, 1702 01:28:03,818 --> 01:28:07,855 not only technologically, but in terms of staging things. 1703 01:28:07,889 --> 01:28:09,724 So, this is the big vulnerability 1704 01:28:09,757 --> 01:28:11,559 I started warning about in the '90s. 1705 01:28:11,592 --> 01:28:15,229 Like, when I was briefing the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, 1706 01:28:15,263 --> 01:28:18,166 General Hughes, that was the whole subject matter. 1707 01:28:18,199 --> 01:28:21,102 Which is why he didn't know how vulnerable he was, 1708 01:28:21,135 --> 01:28:23,204 how vulnerable the Pentagon was, 1709 01:28:23,237 --> 01:28:27,742 because everyone thinks that the "government" is hiding UFOs. 1710 01:28:27,775 --> 01:28:32,547 I said, "Most of the people in the government know nothing about this issue. 1711 01:28:32,580 --> 01:28:35,683 This is why I am here a lot and meeting with folks." 1712 01:28:35,716 --> 01:28:38,085 The bigger issue is, why don't they know? 1713 01:28:38,119 --> 01:28:42,489 And who does know? And what's the architecture of that secrecy? 1714 01:28:43,224 --> 01:28:44,725 Because in my mind, 1715 01:28:44,759 --> 01:28:49,096 that is the biggest security threat to the United States 1716 01:28:49,130 --> 01:28:52,266 and the world happening in the last 50 years. 1717 01:28:52,300 --> 01:28:54,902 More than the Cold War, more than China. 1718 01:28:54,936 --> 01:28:58,105 And it's not an alien national security threat. 1719 01:28:58,139 --> 01:29:00,141 It's from within. 1720 01:29:00,174 --> 01:29:05,513 And there's a great quote about how the worst enemies or the treasonous people 1721 01:29:05,546 --> 01:29:07,248 from within. 1722 01:29:07,281 --> 01:29:10,218 So now, luckily, there are a lot of people now here in Washington, 1723 01:29:10,251 --> 01:29:13,254 in high places who have concluded, as I did, 1724 01:29:13,287 --> 01:29:14,956 back 30 years ago 1725 01:29:14,989 --> 01:29:17,258 that this group conducting these programs 1726 01:29:17,291 --> 01:29:21,095 are in fact the breakaway, treasonous people. 1727 01:29:21,128 --> 01:29:24,765 And if they do not come clean, they need to be treated that way. 1728 01:29:24,799 --> 01:29:28,401 If the world was able to see exactly what was going on behind the veil 1729 01:29:28,435 --> 01:29:31,539 with these black budget top secret projects, 1730 01:29:31,572 --> 01:29:33,473 these secret space programs that do exist 1731 01:29:33,507 --> 01:29:35,776 that are being run out of private corporations, 1732 01:29:35,810 --> 01:29:37,612 they'd be blown away. 1733 01:29:37,645 --> 01:29:39,847 First and foremost, the reason why they're using private corporations 1734 01:29:39,881 --> 01:29:43,117 is because then they can avoid the Freedom of Information Act, 1735 01:29:43,150 --> 01:29:47,321 because with that FOIA, they can actually then release all the information 1736 01:29:47,355 --> 01:29:48,990 to the public, even if it's redacted. 1737 01:29:49,023 --> 01:29:51,259 But through private corporations, 1738 01:29:51,292 --> 01:29:52,459 now they can hide everything. 1739 01:29:52,492 --> 01:29:54,262 They can cover everything up. 1740 01:29:54,295 --> 01:29:55,963 And what happens behind the scenes 1741 01:29:55,997 --> 01:29:59,667 is advanced technology that's 300 years ahead 1742 01:29:59,700 --> 01:30:01,636 of what the general population is at right now. 1743 01:30:01,669 --> 01:30:03,971 So, whatever you can think of has already happened. 1744 01:30:04,005 --> 01:30:07,808 Whatever you can possibly even conceive, already exists. 1745 01:30:07,842 --> 01:30:09,543 That's how far advanced they are. 1746 01:30:09,577 --> 01:30:12,179 But, by keeping these things locked up in the black budget programs 1747 01:30:12,213 --> 01:30:14,982 and using them for top secret military projects, 1748 01:30:15,016 --> 01:30:19,253 the general population is only going to get this information one slight trickle at a time. 1749 01:30:19,287 --> 01:30:21,289 When you're talking about the USAID programs, 1750 01:30:21,322 --> 01:30:24,058 the unacknowledged special access programs, 1751 01:30:24,091 --> 01:30:26,160 there are other programs where 1752 01:30:26,193 --> 01:30:28,062 as Dr. Greer had mentioned before, 1753 01:30:28,095 --> 01:30:31,632 that if if you're working on those type programs and the President asks you 1754 01:30:31,666 --> 01:30:34,568 for specific details, regarding that program, 1755 01:30:34,602 --> 01:30:36,304 your mandatory reply is to be, 1756 01:30:36,337 --> 01:30:38,739 "Mr. President, no such project exists." 1757 01:30:38,773 --> 01:30:40,942 So in that way, 1758 01:30:40,975 --> 01:30:44,412 they are able to compartmentalize different programs, 1759 01:30:44,444 --> 01:30:47,214 different projects, different locations. 1760 01:30:47,248 --> 01:30:51,218 We kind of talked about where these crash retrievals are kept. 1761 01:30:51,252 --> 01:30:54,855 There's multiple repositories around the country 1762 01:30:54,889 --> 01:30:57,825 where these debris, bodies, craft, 1763 01:30:57,858 --> 01:30:59,260 are allegedly being stored. 1764 01:30:59,293 --> 01:31:02,096 Examples would be Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, 1765 01:31:02,129 --> 01:31:05,766 Langley Air Force Base, Virginia. Homestead Air Force Base, Florida, 1766 01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:07,535 MacDill Air Force Base, Florida. 1767 01:31:07,568 --> 01:31:12,540 All allegedly locations where debris and bodies are being kept. 1768 01:31:12,573 --> 01:31:14,008 INTERVIEWER: What kind of projects? 1769 01:31:14,041 --> 01:31:15,276 Do you have an example? 1770 01:31:15,309 --> 01:31:17,278 Okay. I've got an example for you. 1771 01:31:17,311 --> 01:31:19,513 A specific example. 1772 01:31:19,547 --> 01:31:25,453 Timeframe is 1952, and the primary eyewitness is working at the Pentagon. 1773 01:31:25,485 --> 01:31:30,391 She goes down to a lower level and I don't know how this actually went down, 1774 01:31:30,424 --> 01:31:33,561 but she accidentally bumped into a room 1775 01:31:33,594 --> 01:31:35,563 that she wasn't supposed to go inside. 1776 01:31:35,596 --> 01:31:39,499 So you can picture this this dark, musty, dingy room. 1777 01:31:39,533 --> 01:31:43,771 It's very poorly lit and there's some boxes off to the side. 1778 01:31:43,804 --> 01:31:45,906 She kind of goes into this room. 1779 01:31:45,940 --> 01:31:48,275 She kind of makes about a 180 degrees. 1780 01:31:48,309 --> 01:31:49,810 And what does she see 1781 01:31:49,844 --> 01:31:51,979 kind of sitting off to the side? 1782 01:31:52,013 --> 01:31:57,151 About a three-foot tall "pickled alien in a glass jar". 1783 01:31:57,184 --> 01:31:59,286 And within like ten seconds, 1784 01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:03,324 she feels this very firm hand on her shoulder, 1785 01:32:03,357 --> 01:32:04,759 and it was an MP. 1786 01:32:04,792 --> 01:32:07,928 Again, this is 1952 at the lower level of the Pentagon, 1787 01:32:07,962 --> 01:32:11,265 and this MP says, "You are not supposed to be here." 1788 01:32:11,298 --> 01:32:13,134 He got her out of there immediately. 1789 01:32:13,167 --> 01:32:14,468 And you can see here, 1790 01:32:14,502 --> 01:32:17,705 so very concerned look on her face. 1791 01:32:17,738 --> 01:32:22,476 But, she did see a pickle alien in a glass jar 1792 01:32:22,511 --> 01:32:25,579 at the underground facility at the Pentagon in 1952. 1793 01:32:25,613 --> 01:32:28,315 So, if this woman's testimony is true, 1794 01:32:28,349 --> 01:32:30,284 and we have no reason to believe that it's not, 1795 01:32:30,317 --> 01:32:33,854 they do have the physical evidence that we need 1796 01:32:33,888 --> 01:32:37,858 as a coalition of ufologists to move this field forward. 1797 01:32:37,892 --> 01:32:41,729 This is what happens when you have 70 years of illegal, 1798 01:32:41,762 --> 01:32:44,799 corrupt, beyond black projects, 1799 01:32:44,832 --> 01:32:47,701 and you have generations of people 1800 01:32:48,502 --> 01:32:49,804 who have been in government. 1801 01:32:49,837 --> 01:32:52,673 Some, you know, for 30, 40 years 1802 01:32:52,706 --> 01:32:56,577 who have no idea what's been going on beneath the surface. 1803 01:32:57,978 --> 01:33:00,147 I mean, to the point that 1804 01:33:00,181 --> 01:33:04,785 some of these folks who are at that level of oversight, 1805 01:33:04,819 --> 01:33:08,856 an oversight of the intelligence community and the black budget of the United States, 1806 01:33:08,889 --> 01:33:11,560 they didn't know that there were DUMBS, 1807 01:33:11,592 --> 01:33:13,227 Deep Underground Military Bases. 1808 01:33:13,260 --> 01:33:15,229 They didn't know there were connectors 1809 01:33:15,262 --> 01:33:18,866 between, say, Edwards Air Force Base and that facility 1810 01:33:18,899 --> 01:33:21,469 and the Nellis Range, so called Area 51. 1811 01:33:21,502 --> 01:33:25,706 I had to dredge up the actual blueprints of the machine 1812 01:33:25,739 --> 01:33:27,708 that built them 1813 01:33:27,741 --> 01:33:32,146 and told them about which corporations like Bechtel Corporation and others 1814 01:33:32,179 --> 01:33:34,849 that ran and built those with 1815 01:33:34,882 --> 01:33:37,985 a beyond black budget authorization. 1816 01:33:38,018 --> 01:33:41,523 So, all of this gets to be very complicated, including the money. 1817 01:33:41,556 --> 01:33:42,790 [CHUCKLES] 1818 01:33:42,823 --> 01:33:44,692 So, you know, one of the first questions was, 1819 01:33:44,725 --> 01:33:46,794 how is this being funded? 1820 01:33:46,827 --> 01:33:49,296 I said, "Well, several mechanisms." One... 1821 01:33:50,731 --> 01:33:52,500 those States say the B-2 stealth bomber 1822 01:33:52,534 --> 01:33:54,869 cost two billion dollars a copy. 1823 01:33:54,902 --> 01:33:58,540 Actually probably cost more like $100 million, $150 million. 1824 01:33:58,573 --> 01:34:01,610 The rest is diverted into a black project 1825 01:34:01,642 --> 01:34:03,410 that they don't know about and have not approved. 1826 01:34:03,444 --> 01:34:05,880 Now, that is, in fact, embezzlement 1827 01:34:05,913 --> 01:34:08,082 of U.S. federal taxpayer dollars. 1828 01:34:09,783 --> 01:34:12,219 The other issue is 1829 01:34:12,253 --> 01:34:15,122 corporations that have gotten spinoffs 1830 01:34:15,156 --> 01:34:18,959 of these technologies that have been studied since the '40s and '50s. 1831 01:34:18,993 --> 01:34:20,294 The reverse-engineering of 1832 01:34:20,327 --> 01:34:22,329 extraterrestrial-advanced systems, 1833 01:34:22,363 --> 01:34:26,066 who then have it pass on some of that information 1834 01:34:26,100 --> 01:34:29,170 to a corporate public entity 1835 01:34:29,203 --> 01:34:32,574 that can then sell you a fiber optic system 1836 01:34:32,607 --> 01:34:34,375 or a night vision system 1837 01:34:34,408 --> 01:34:37,912 or an advanced integrated circuit and things of this sort. 1838 01:34:37,945 --> 01:34:40,814 So, that creates a profit center 1839 01:34:40,848 --> 01:34:43,717 for subsidiaries of these corporations. 1840 01:34:43,751 --> 01:34:49,990 And, of course, the darkest is the illegal running of both arms and drugs 1841 01:34:50,024 --> 01:34:53,928 by some elements, the darkest elements of these covert groups 1842 01:34:53,961 --> 01:34:55,564 And that is not an urban myth. 1843 01:34:55,597 --> 01:34:56,531 That is real. 1844 01:34:56,565 --> 01:34:59,099 And I had two men, 1845 01:34:59,133 --> 01:35:02,269 one was a senior executive SAIC, 1846 01:35:02,303 --> 01:35:05,973 Science Applications International Corporation, 1847 01:35:06,006 --> 01:35:08,677 and the other one was a former congressman 1848 01:35:08,709 --> 01:35:10,911 who is a bit of a consigliere 1849 01:35:11,712 --> 01:35:15,517 for George H. W. Bush Sr. 1850 01:35:15,550 --> 01:35:20,154 And they both... I met with them here in Crystal City, 1851 01:35:20,187 --> 01:35:23,824 near the Pentagon, at the congressman's condo. 1852 01:35:23,857 --> 01:35:28,295 And they explained to me how there was an army of 8,000 men 1853 01:35:28,329 --> 01:35:31,465 that were running drugs illegally, 1854 01:35:31,498 --> 01:35:34,034 that were undercover of military 1855 01:35:34,068 --> 01:35:36,337 covert secret projects 1856 01:35:36,370 --> 01:35:38,339 and that this was destroying things. 1857 01:35:38,372 --> 01:35:40,874 I mean, it's an absolutely destruction of our planet. 1858 01:35:40,908 --> 01:35:42,309 I will tell you, Director Deutch, 1859 01:35:42,343 --> 01:35:44,679 as a former Los Angeles police narcotics detective, 1860 01:35:44,713 --> 01:35:47,147 that the agency has dealt drugs throughout this country 1861 01:35:47,181 --> 01:35:49,383 -for a long time. -[ALL CHEERING AND CLAPPING] 1862 01:35:49,416 --> 01:35:53,254 Director Deutch, I will refer you to three specific agency operations 1863 01:35:53,287 --> 01:35:56,824 known as Amadeus, Pegasus and Watch Tower. 1864 01:35:56,857 --> 01:36:00,729 I have Watch Tower documents heavily redacted by the agency. 1865 01:36:00,761 --> 01:36:05,567 I was personally exposed to CIA operations and recruited by CIA personnel who attempted 1866 01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:07,736 to recruit me in the late '70s, 1867 01:36:07,768 --> 01:36:12,006 to become involved in protecting agency drug operations in this country. 1868 01:36:12,039 --> 01:36:15,142 I have been trying to get this out for 18 years and I have the evidence. 1869 01:36:15,175 --> 01:36:17,077 So, we had this long discussion 1870 01:36:17,111 --> 01:36:20,981 about the rot and the danger of this kind of secrecy, 1871 01:36:21,015 --> 01:36:24,918 because if no one's controlling them, or watching them, 1872 01:36:24,952 --> 01:36:28,723 all kinds of things can happen, and that's what has happened. 1873 01:36:28,757 --> 01:36:30,324 So, this is now... 1874 01:36:30,357 --> 01:36:32,293 Now, let's talk about what this is really about. 1875 01:36:34,028 --> 01:36:37,766 It's really about the renewal of democracy, 1876 01:36:37,798 --> 01:36:39,433 because everyone says, 1877 01:36:39,466 --> 01:36:42,303 "We're in a free country and a democracy." 1878 01:36:42,336 --> 01:36:45,839 But, how free and how democratic can it be, 1879 01:36:45,873 --> 01:36:48,142 if the most important technologies, 1880 01:36:48,175 --> 01:36:50,077 the most important discoveries, 1881 01:36:50,110 --> 01:36:53,480 are kept from the media and the public and our policymakers? 1882 01:36:58,319 --> 01:37:00,888 I remember Jimmy Carter 1883 01:37:00,921 --> 01:37:03,991 demanded to know about this and the outgoing CI director. 1884 01:37:04,024 --> 01:37:07,595 And we have this from people who were involved at the time, 1885 01:37:07,629 --> 01:37:11,432 told the incoming President, "We're not going to tell you anything." 1886 01:37:12,399 --> 01:37:15,770 So there are... This happened. 1887 01:37:15,804 --> 01:37:18,138 Bill Clinton explicitly made inquiries 1888 01:37:18,172 --> 01:37:20,441 and was denied information. 1889 01:37:20,474 --> 01:37:24,579 So, you know, I'm not speculating when I say that when you do that, 1890 01:37:24,612 --> 01:37:26,246 this is why in a court of law, 1891 01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:27,948 you can prove that these projects 1892 01:37:27,981 --> 01:37:30,819 are being run illegally and unconstitutionally. 1893 01:37:30,851 --> 01:37:33,887 That's, you know, that's a matter of fact. 1894 01:37:33,921 --> 01:37:37,491 And that's happened to Presidents since Eisenhower. 1895 01:37:37,525 --> 01:37:42,797 I remember Eisenhower lost control of these projects in the late '50s, 1896 01:37:42,831 --> 01:37:46,801 And that's when these entire operations just sort of 1897 01:37:46,835 --> 01:37:49,571 got big enough and powerful enough 1898 01:37:49,604 --> 01:37:51,271 to sort of go off on their own 1899 01:37:51,305 --> 01:37:56,009 and would disclose what they wanted to the President. 1900 01:37:56,043 --> 01:37:59,714 So, I think that's why it takes 1901 01:37:59,748 --> 01:38:03,016 someone who's willing to issue, 1902 01:38:03,050 --> 01:38:06,755 you know, subpoenas and investigate and get to the bottom of it, 1903 01:38:06,788 --> 01:38:08,790 which is happening now. 1904 01:38:08,823 --> 01:38:11,125 The question is, how far are they going to able to go before they get sat down? 1905 01:38:11,158 --> 01:38:14,361 All this boils down to one word: courage. 1906 01:38:14,395 --> 01:38:16,531 You know, if you have the courage to do it, fine. 1907 01:38:16,564 --> 01:38:18,867 If you don't, then you're irrelevant, you know? 1908 01:38:18,899 --> 01:38:21,636 And that's why when, after I briefed Clinton's CI director, 1909 01:38:21,669 --> 01:38:24,304 his friend came down to my house and said, 1910 01:38:24,338 --> 01:38:27,307 "Well, they're convinced that President will end up like Jack Kennedy." 1911 01:38:27,341 --> 01:38:29,410 I thought it was a joke. 1912 01:38:29,443 --> 01:38:32,514 And he said, "No." I said, "Well, he's the President and I'm not." 1913 01:38:32,547 --> 01:38:34,181 So, if you want to be the President 1914 01:38:34,214 --> 01:38:36,950 or if you want to be a member of the Senate or House, 1915 01:38:36,984 --> 01:38:39,554 you have an obligation and a responsibility. 1916 01:38:39,587 --> 01:38:42,923 Now, if you want to shirk it, you can't complain about the fact 1917 01:38:42,956 --> 01:38:45,660 that this is an out of control black project. 1918 01:38:45,693 --> 01:38:50,063 So, you either have to, you know, step up to the plate, 1919 01:38:50,097 --> 01:38:53,635 or get off, you know, move out of the way. 1920 01:38:53,668 --> 01:38:56,437 But, for decades, people have not been willing to do either. 1921 01:38:56,470 --> 01:38:58,773 They're just too intimidated, 1922 01:38:58,807 --> 01:39:01,308 because of the threats and bribes 1923 01:39:01,341 --> 01:39:03,310 and all that kind of stuff. 1924 01:39:03,343 --> 01:39:06,413 I mean, you know, I've had so many of my colleagues that I started working with 1925 01:39:06,447 --> 01:39:08,982 who've gotten threats or buy-offs, 1926 01:39:09,016 --> 01:39:11,251 and then were subsequently corrupted. 1927 01:39:11,285 --> 01:39:14,154 So, I think that's one of the real problems 1928 01:39:14,188 --> 01:39:18,325 in a city like this, where you spread enough money around you twist enough arms, 1929 01:39:18,358 --> 01:39:20,194 you get what you want. 1930 01:39:20,227 --> 01:39:25,533 So, I always say the indispensable currency in all this to me isn't money. 1931 01:39:25,567 --> 01:39:27,735 It's the courage to do it. 1932 01:39:27,769 --> 01:39:29,236 And if you don't have the courage to do it, 1933 01:39:29,269 --> 01:39:31,739 then you just made yourself, whether you're the President 1934 01:39:31,773 --> 01:39:34,174 or you're the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee 1935 01:39:34,208 --> 01:39:37,277 or whoever, you've made yourself irrelevant. 1936 01:39:37,311 --> 01:39:40,414 So, being relevant, on something like this means 1937 01:39:40,447 --> 01:39:42,617 having the courage to go the distance. 1938 01:39:42,650 --> 01:39:46,921 So, there's something there. We just don't know what it is. 1939 01:39:46,955 --> 01:39:51,526 Do you think it could possibly be Russia or another foreign adversary? 1940 01:39:51,559 --> 01:39:53,561 That's what we need to find out. 1941 01:39:53,595 --> 01:39:58,432 Because if there is an adversary with that kind of technology, 1942 01:39:58,465 --> 01:40:03,905 then we definitely need to be very, very careful. 1943 01:40:03,938 --> 01:40:05,740 How much they know? 1944 01:40:05,773 --> 01:40:08,977 I don't know. I know I've been dealing with some people in Russia 1945 01:40:09,009 --> 01:40:11,411 who are very informed on the subject. 1946 01:40:11,445 --> 01:40:13,915 I don't know to what extent Putin 1947 01:40:13,948 --> 01:40:19,386 or Xi in China are involved or briefed on it. 1948 01:40:19,419 --> 01:40:24,324 I just don't have anyone at that level in those governments. 1949 01:40:24,358 --> 01:40:25,994 Here, I do. 1950 01:40:26,026 --> 01:40:30,632 But, in the United States and Great Britain and other countries. 1951 01:40:30,665 --> 01:40:32,199 So, that's a big question mark. 1952 01:40:33,500 --> 01:40:35,603 Interestingly, there are members of the Senate 1953 01:40:35,637 --> 01:40:37,939 who have been questioned whether these UAPs 1954 01:40:37,972 --> 01:40:40,642 are from China, which they're not. 1955 01:40:41,709 --> 01:40:43,745 But, I think that's... 1956 01:40:43,778 --> 01:40:48,148 One of the problems is that during even the Cold War, 1957 01:40:48,181 --> 01:40:52,654 there were events with UFOs that were mistaken as a possible 1958 01:40:52,687 --> 01:40:55,990 incoming threat from the Soviet Union, 1959 01:40:56,024 --> 01:41:00,460 and something like that is dangerous. 1960 01:41:00,494 --> 01:41:03,665 So, I think this is another reason why 1961 01:41:03,698 --> 01:41:06,000 the extreme secrecy on this issue 1962 01:41:06,034 --> 01:41:11,039 is a danger to operational tactical decisions 1963 01:41:11,071 --> 01:41:14,943 that are being made at the Pentagon or CIA or wherever. 1964 01:41:14,976 --> 01:41:18,178 Because, most of those guys don't know what these objects are. 1965 01:41:18,211 --> 01:41:19,847 So, something could happen. 1966 01:41:19,881 --> 01:41:21,983 They think, oh, that's coming from China or Russia or whatever. 1967 01:41:22,016 --> 01:41:23,818 And it isn't. 1968 01:41:23,851 --> 01:41:28,523 Either it could be man-made UFO or it could be an extraterrestrial one. 1969 01:41:28,556 --> 01:41:31,124 So not having that in your algorithm, 1970 01:41:31,158 --> 01:41:33,327 not having that in your list of things, 1971 01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:36,030 maybe it's this, maybe it's that, maybe it's this. 1972 01:41:36,064 --> 01:41:38,131 That is really dangerous. 1973 01:41:38,165 --> 01:41:42,904 And I think this is a big problem that doesn't get talked about in the media. 1974 01:41:42,937 --> 01:41:48,076 There is a threat to the national security that's very severe, related to UFOs. 1975 01:41:48,108 --> 01:41:51,512 But, it's not that the UFOs from outer space are a threat, 1976 01:41:51,546 --> 01:41:55,115 the human secrecy is a threat. 1977 01:41:55,148 --> 01:41:57,585 And that's what the first director of the CIA 1978 01:41:57,619 --> 01:41:59,687 wrote to The New York Times in a letter. 1979 01:41:59,721 --> 01:42:02,757 And we have the letter, Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter 1980 01:42:02,790 --> 01:42:07,194 where he said the secrecy around UFOs is a threat 1981 01:42:07,227 --> 01:42:09,030 to the national security. 1982 01:42:09,063 --> 01:42:11,164 This is 1960 or '61. 1983 01:42:11,198 --> 01:42:14,167 So, you know, don't take my opinion. 1984 01:42:14,201 --> 01:42:17,538 Take the opinion of the very first Director of the CIA. 1985 01:42:17,572 --> 01:42:19,073 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING] 1986 01:42:25,613 --> 01:42:28,248 There was a statement the five felons 1987 01:42:28,281 --> 01:42:32,086 from Lue Elizondo in contact with this lure as well, 1988 01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:34,221 and they were talking back and forth. 1989 01:42:34,254 --> 01:42:37,725 And these statements were leaked out to everyone, 1990 01:42:37,759 --> 01:42:42,530 and they really showed what Lue Elizondo is really all about. 1991 01:42:42,563 --> 01:42:45,767 I mean, there are actually accusations 1992 01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:50,437 of the Fellon-5 saying that all these people, 1993 01:42:50,470 --> 01:42:53,473 John Greenwald of the Black Vault, 1994 01:42:53,508 --> 01:42:57,145 Thirdphaseofmoon, and Dr. Greer... 1995 01:42:57,177 --> 01:42:58,880 [LAUGHS] Dr. Greer. 1996 01:42:58,913 --> 01:43:01,883 ...and a couple of others. 1997 01:43:01,916 --> 01:43:05,119 You know, I know these people. 1998 01:43:05,153 --> 01:43:08,122 And for anyone to say that they are 1999 01:43:08,156 --> 01:43:10,992 charlatans or they're criminals, 2000 01:43:11,025 --> 01:43:12,060 or they have a criminal record, 2001 01:43:13,260 --> 01:43:14,696 it's ludicrous. 2002 01:43:14,729 --> 01:43:16,496 It's ludicrous. 2003 01:43:16,531 --> 01:43:19,299 Anyone who has talked with any of these, anybody was talked with 2004 01:43:19,332 --> 01:43:22,870 John Greenwald, with Dr. Greer, with Thirdphaseofmoon, 2005 01:43:22,904 --> 01:43:25,606 I mean, knows that these are people who are 2006 01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:27,608 utterly dedicated, 2007 01:43:27,642 --> 01:43:29,644 utterly dedicated to their purpose, 2008 01:43:29,677 --> 01:43:31,378 which is to bring the truth to people. 2009 01:43:31,411 --> 01:43:35,149 Bring real things to people that people can actually use. 2010 01:43:35,183 --> 01:43:37,919 And that's what Dr. Greer has dedicated his life to. 2011 01:43:37,952 --> 01:43:40,353 That's what John Greenwald... 2012 01:43:40,387 --> 01:43:44,559 John Greenwald is just a super intellect. 2013 01:43:44,592 --> 01:43:46,794 He's got just a huge intellect. 2014 01:43:46,828 --> 01:43:49,296 I mean, he's not a person who has 2015 01:43:49,329 --> 01:43:53,366 any iota of criminality about him at all. 2016 01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:55,036 And Thirdphaseofmoons. 2017 01:43:55,069 --> 01:44:00,541 I mean, they're just guys who just care about bringing the truth 2018 01:44:00,575 --> 01:44:03,745 in an area that has so much fakery in it. 2019 01:44:03,778 --> 01:44:05,012 So much fakery. 2020 01:44:05,046 --> 01:44:06,948 Which brings me back to Lue Elizondo. 2021 01:44:07,815 --> 01:44:09,817 Lue Elizondo is just using 2022 01:44:09,851 --> 01:44:13,154 standard techniques of a CIA contractor, 2023 01:44:13,187 --> 01:44:14,889 that's what they teach them. 2024 01:44:14,922 --> 01:44:18,860 They teach them to envelope whoever the enemy is, 2025 01:44:18,893 --> 01:44:21,829 whoever is speaking out against you, 2026 01:44:21,863 --> 01:44:25,533 you're supposed to wrap them up with false accusations, 2027 01:44:26,100 --> 01:44:27,334 counter claims, 2028 01:44:27,367 --> 01:44:32,206 and the more scurrilous and baseless 2029 01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:34,341 the accusations are, the better. 2030 01:44:34,374 --> 01:44:36,476 Because, you're trying to create outrage. 2031 01:44:36,511 --> 01:44:39,914 You're trying to show people that they can't mess with you. 2032 01:44:39,947 --> 01:44:43,551 Greenstreet, Greenwald, and Thirdphaseofmoon and yourself, The Fellon-5. 2033 01:44:43,584 --> 01:44:45,153 [LAUGHS] 2034 01:44:45,186 --> 01:44:46,286 Yes, I like this. 2035 01:44:48,122 --> 01:44:50,490 That people who are the mouthpieces 2036 01:44:50,525 --> 01:44:54,862 for an unconstitutional, rogue, criminal organization 2037 01:44:54,896 --> 01:44:59,901 calls people who are actually the truth tellers, the felons. 2038 01:44:59,934 --> 01:45:02,302 You know, and I've been called that for years. 2039 01:45:02,335 --> 01:45:04,371 You know, back in the '90s there were a group of these guys 2040 01:45:04,404 --> 01:45:08,408 who basically said I'm a traitor to my country. 2041 01:45:08,441 --> 01:45:11,078 When in reality, these people are creating high crimes, 2042 01:45:11,112 --> 01:45:15,082 misdemeanors and treason by deceiving the public, 2043 01:45:15,116 --> 01:45:18,052 lying to the President, lying to the Congress, 2044 01:45:18,085 --> 01:45:20,521 taking hundreds of billions of dollars, 2045 01:45:20,555 --> 01:45:22,156 trillions over the years 2046 01:45:22,190 --> 01:45:26,093 and putting them into unapproved projects 2047 01:45:26,127 --> 01:45:28,428 that the Congress doesn't know they're spending the money on, 2048 01:45:28,461 --> 01:45:30,665 and we can prove that also. 2049 01:45:30,698 --> 01:45:33,835 But, of course, people like that are always going to accuse other people 2050 01:45:33,868 --> 01:45:36,137 of what they themselves are guilty of. 2051 01:45:36,170 --> 01:45:37,839 Just remember that. 2052 01:45:37,872 --> 01:45:39,974 And, you know, one of the things that just irks the hell out of me 2053 01:45:40,007 --> 01:45:43,044 is when we're in a relatively small community. 2054 01:45:43,077 --> 01:45:48,583 You know, those of us that investigate and look into the unexplained. 2055 01:45:49,817 --> 01:45:51,652 And there are people out there 2056 01:45:51,686 --> 01:45:56,356 that are getting an awful lot of media coverage that aren't, 2057 01:45:56,389 --> 01:46:01,596 you know, they aren't doing themselves or other areas of interests any good. 2058 01:46:01,629 --> 01:46:05,266 When you're, uh... 2059 01:46:05,299 --> 01:46:07,969 When you're slamming people for being unprofessional, 2060 01:46:08,002 --> 01:46:11,339 you're slamming people for being incompetent. 2061 01:46:11,371 --> 01:46:14,642 I mean, again it's the people who are, you know, 2062 01:46:14,675 --> 01:46:17,410 the people are saying that are, you know, 2063 01:46:17,444 --> 01:46:21,549 the three or four talking heads that you see all the time. 2064 01:46:21,582 --> 01:46:24,619 I mean, it's Lue. It's... 2065 01:46:26,287 --> 01:46:27,188 Jeremy. 2066 01:46:28,522 --> 01:46:31,458 It's Nick and few others, and it's... 2067 01:46:31,491 --> 01:46:33,160 They keep going to the same ones. 2068 01:46:33,194 --> 01:46:35,363 They're not coming up with any answers. 2069 01:46:35,395 --> 01:46:41,702 Yet they feel it's their duty to trash people like the Cousin brothers 2070 01:46:41,736 --> 01:46:47,108 who go out and they get the news, you know, they're the first ones there. 2071 01:46:47,141 --> 01:46:51,444 Why should you be jealous of that? 2072 01:46:51,478 --> 01:46:55,516 JOHN: Just the fact that he would just scurrilously 2073 01:46:55,549 --> 01:46:58,219 make accusations like this. 2074 01:46:58,252 --> 01:47:03,157 The release of these emails really show what kind of person Elizondo is, 2075 01:47:03,190 --> 01:47:06,493 and that's why anyone going forward from here, 2076 01:47:06,527 --> 01:47:11,132 anyone who associates with him, in the ufology community or anywhere else, 2077 01:47:11,165 --> 01:47:14,068 they're just taking their own life into their hands 2078 01:47:14,101 --> 01:47:16,237 by associating with this guy, 2079 01:47:16,270 --> 01:47:20,574 because he will turn on them at any moment. Any moment. 2080 01:47:20,608 --> 01:47:22,743 Just like he did with these five people, 2081 01:47:22,777 --> 01:47:26,681 who he actually has had contacts with in the past, 2082 01:47:26,714 --> 01:47:31,719 and just he [SNAPS FINGERS] turned on a dime because that's his training. 2083 01:47:31,752 --> 01:47:33,521 I'm telling you, that's what it is. 2084 01:47:33,554 --> 01:47:36,791 He's trained to do this and he'll continue to do this 2085 01:47:36,824 --> 01:47:38,326 as long as he's around. 2086 01:47:38,359 --> 01:47:40,661 They do a flip, you know. 2087 01:47:40,695 --> 01:47:42,863 So, the only way they know how to handle it 2088 01:47:42,897 --> 01:47:46,434 is they accuse other people what they themselves are doing. 2089 01:47:47,635 --> 01:47:48,736 [INTERVIEWER SPEAKING] 2090 01:47:49,437 --> 01:47:50,905 What? 2091 01:47:50,938 --> 01:47:52,373 MAN: When he calls us, I've never had... were not felons. 2092 01:47:52,406 --> 01:47:53,674 Are you a felon? 2093 01:47:53,708 --> 01:47:55,276 -Have you ever had... -I've never had a felony. 2094 01:47:55,309 --> 01:47:56,444 Of course not. 2095 01:47:56,476 --> 01:47:57,812 I mean, you couldn't have a medical license 2096 01:47:57,845 --> 01:48:00,881 [CHUCKLES] for one thing, which I have. 2097 01:48:00,915 --> 01:48:02,783 But anyway, you know, this is just... 2098 01:48:02,817 --> 01:48:07,421 This is the typical what happens is, the people, the whistleblowers, 2099 01:48:07,455 --> 01:48:11,225 always get attacked by very powerful interests 2100 01:48:11,258 --> 01:48:16,430 that are being exposed for their criminal activities. 2101 01:48:16,464 --> 01:48:22,036 And that's a really typical response from people who know they're wrong. 2102 01:48:22,069 --> 01:48:25,072 It's doing a disservice to all of us, 2103 01:48:25,106 --> 01:48:28,509 not just the ones that they are bad mouthing, 2104 01:48:28,542 --> 01:48:30,544 but to the entire industry. 2105 01:48:30,578 --> 01:48:32,780 And if you come across as a bunch of crybabies 2106 01:48:32,813 --> 01:48:36,450 and say, "Well, so and so is an ass and so and so is incompetent, 2107 01:48:36,484 --> 01:48:39,053 and so and so doesn't know what the hell he's doing." 2108 01:48:39,086 --> 01:48:40,955 It also reflects on you. 2109 01:48:42,623 --> 01:48:47,495 I mean, in today's world, all you see nowadays 2110 01:48:47,528 --> 01:48:51,399 are people slamming other people, and it's not right. 2111 01:48:51,432 --> 01:48:54,802 Unfortunately, you know, you just have to... 2112 01:48:54,835 --> 01:48:58,773 If you're doing this kind of work, which I've been doing for 30 years now, 2113 01:48:58,806 --> 01:49:02,843 you just take it as a given that you're going to have these sort of attacks 2114 01:49:02,877 --> 01:49:07,181 hurled at you, you know, all kinds of defamation and accusations. 2115 01:49:07,214 --> 01:49:08,783 And I don't think... 2116 01:49:08,816 --> 01:49:11,819 You know, I tell people, you just have to get battle-hardened 2117 01:49:11,852 --> 01:49:14,255 if you're taking on the most powerful group 2118 01:49:14,288 --> 01:49:18,359 of criminal, monied people in the world, 2119 01:49:18,392 --> 01:49:19,493 and this is what this is. 2120 01:49:19,528 --> 01:49:21,195 I mean, you know, there's no question that 2121 01:49:21,228 --> 01:49:23,664 the group that's keeping this stuff secret, 2122 01:49:23,697 --> 01:49:27,068 they have the most power, the greatest technologies, 2123 01:49:27,101 --> 01:49:29,804 the most influence of any group in the world. 2124 01:49:29,837 --> 01:49:34,208 Certainly more than 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue up here. 2125 01:49:34,241 --> 01:49:37,244 I sure hope to hell, you know, before my time is up, 2126 01:49:37,278 --> 01:49:39,447 that we get full disclosure. 2127 01:49:39,480 --> 01:49:41,849 That Dr. Greer and his soldiers, 2128 01:49:41,882 --> 01:49:44,685 all the, you know, all the men and women 2129 01:49:44,718 --> 01:49:49,056 that support his effort and all the, you know, 2130 01:49:49,090 --> 01:49:53,562 the fans and dedicated people that support the effort of the Cousin brothers 2131 01:49:53,594 --> 01:49:57,431 and Michael Schratt and others that are just... 2132 01:49:57,465 --> 01:49:59,534 We're just trying to find information. 2133 01:49:59,568 --> 01:50:01,836 We're just trying to do what... 2134 01:50:03,938 --> 01:50:07,108 what any human being would do. 2135 01:50:07,141 --> 01:50:10,377 You know, I'm curious to who are these people? 2136 01:50:10,411 --> 01:50:14,081 And I'm hoping before... before I start pushing up weeds, 2137 01:50:16,150 --> 01:50:17,552 I'm hoping that there's an answer. 2138 01:50:17,586 --> 01:50:19,521 I'm hoping there's full disclosure. 2139 01:50:19,554 --> 01:50:24,225 And they tell us, "Okay, this is where we came from, 2140 01:50:24,258 --> 01:50:28,129 this is where we're going, this is how they got here, 2141 01:50:28,162 --> 01:50:32,133 this is what it means to civilization and humanity in general." 2142 01:50:32,166 --> 01:50:37,271 And I'm hoping that day comes while I'm still here. 2143 01:50:37,304 --> 01:50:40,941 Now, I am fearful I'm going to live to be 105, 2144 01:50:40,975 --> 01:50:46,280 and I keep having recurring dreams that I am still around in 2050... 2145 01:50:47,948 --> 01:50:50,284 and hopefully something will happen by then. 2146 01:50:50,317 --> 01:50:52,920 Hopefully, something will happen before the end of the year. 2147 01:50:52,953 --> 01:50:54,188 [INTERVIEWER SPEAKING] 2148 01:50:54,221 --> 01:50:55,256 Pardon? 2149 01:50:55,289 --> 01:50:56,625 [INTERVIEWER SPEAKING] 2150 01:50:56,657 --> 01:50:59,093 And if not? Uh, 2151 01:50:59,126 --> 01:51:01,495 I'm going to come back and I'm going to haunt all you bastards 2152 01:51:01,530 --> 01:51:03,164 that wouldn't release the information. 2153 01:51:03,864 --> 01:51:05,634 If my mom can do it... 2154 01:51:05,666 --> 01:51:10,437 She was born on Halloween and you know, she had an incredible spirit. 2155 01:51:10,471 --> 01:51:12,574 And I have some of that same spirit in me. 2156 01:51:14,808 --> 01:51:18,812 If there isn't disclosure when my day comes, 2157 01:51:18,846 --> 01:51:21,650 I'm going to come back and I will be one haunting son of a bitch. 2158 01:51:21,682 --> 01:51:28,088 And I'm going to make life miserable for everybody that denied us access 2159 01:51:28,122 --> 01:51:29,323 and full disclosure. 2160 01:51:31,091 --> 01:51:35,630 The entire field of ufology has this strange, 2161 01:51:35,664 --> 01:51:39,500 self-protection automatic system built into it. 2162 01:51:39,534 --> 01:51:40,935 Because it's so crazy. 2163 01:51:40,968 --> 01:51:42,770 It's so outlandish. 2164 01:51:42,803 --> 01:51:47,274 It's just so odd-ball-sounding, bodies and aliens and craft and debris 2165 01:51:47,308 --> 01:51:48,342 and a big cover up. 2166 01:51:48,375 --> 01:51:50,778 And it's been lasting for 75 years 2167 01:51:50,811 --> 01:51:52,479 and we have nothing to prove. 2168 01:51:52,514 --> 01:51:55,617 So you can see it's got this self-protection, 2169 01:51:55,650 --> 01:51:58,285 fail-safe mechanism built into it. 2170 01:51:58,319 --> 01:52:00,487 The story is so crazy, 2171 01:52:00,522 --> 01:52:03,991 the government really doesn't have to do too much 2172 01:52:04,024 --> 01:52:06,628 to keep their secrets, because it's so outlandish. 2173 01:52:06,661 --> 01:52:11,365 We're the ones, you know, keeping the cover-up alive, 2174 01:52:11,398 --> 01:52:15,836 because we're talking about these stories and so, you can see how it's easy 2175 01:52:15,869 --> 01:52:19,006 for the government to keep this secret, because the story is so crazy. 2176 01:52:19,039 --> 01:52:21,175 Without that physical evidence, 2177 01:52:21,208 --> 01:52:27,314 we'll always be in this zone of mockery and belittling. 2178 01:52:27,348 --> 01:52:30,317 And the giggle factor is still alive. 2179 01:52:30,351 --> 01:52:32,419 Even after all these congressional hearings, 2180 01:52:32,453 --> 01:52:35,189 what we need to pierce through 2181 01:52:35,222 --> 01:52:39,026 is the Leonard Stringfield crash retrieval case's 2182 01:52:39,059 --> 01:52:41,362 actual physical evidence. 2183 01:52:41,395 --> 01:52:42,963 Then we got something. 2184 01:52:42,997 --> 01:52:45,634 So it's easy to trigger the fear, 2185 01:52:45,667 --> 01:52:47,901 and people are gonna assume it's from outer space, 2186 01:52:47,935 --> 01:52:49,870 it's a threat. "Oh, my God, I'm so scared." 2187 01:52:49,903 --> 01:52:51,772 So, it would be nothing at this point. 2188 01:52:51,805 --> 01:52:54,441 After 70 years of this kind of planning, 2189 01:52:55,276 --> 01:52:58,445 brainwashing, disinformation, 2190 01:52:58,479 --> 01:53:01,248 to have one singular event happen. 2191 01:53:01,282 --> 01:53:03,585 It could be a fairly minor event. 2192 01:53:04,519 --> 01:53:05,419 That'd be it. 2193 01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:06,954 [DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING] 194668

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