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[Phil] What's up, world?
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It's October 2nd.
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I'm currently
in Manhattan, New York.
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Tomorrow, I'm going to be
speaking to a grand jury
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about my former employment
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with Combs Enterprises.
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[Diddy] Hey, yo, Phil, can
you give me 20 Xanax, please?
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I need my Gucci bag up here.
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Hey, yo, Phil, can y'all come
straighten it up over here?
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Not looking luxurious.
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The mushroom.
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-Phil, I'mma need 10 Adderall.
-Phil, I need some Cialis.
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Hey, Phil, I need a Plan B.
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Hey, Phil, do we have
any more chocolates?
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'Cause she's going to need
a chocolate in a minute.
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[chuckles]
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This has all been
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a very psychological,
emotional
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roller coaster for me.
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I [bleep] all of them up.
I ain't gonna lie.
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[Phil] Kind of nerve-wracking.
It can be very scary.
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You cannot
[bleep] escape this.
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[Phil] We know
what this person is
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capable of doing.
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[Diddy] I'm not about to be
transparent for y'all
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or anybody.
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Anything I want
them people to know,
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I'mma let them know.
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You in the process of what
I'm allowing you to see.
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There's some dark places
y'all [bleep] don't wanna go.
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Stay where you're at.
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[roars]
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[Phil] It kind of does
follow you.
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It follows you everywhere.
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And I'm still dealing
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with the aftermath
of all this.
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[crew member] All right. Mic?
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[Phil] However, you know,
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all I can do is
speak my truth.
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Here I am.
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Stay tuned for more.
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[theme music playing]
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My name is Phil Pines.
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I was a senior
executive assistant
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for Mr. Combs,
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and I started
in December of 2019,
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and I ended in December 2021.
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For me, the reason I wanted
to tell my story was,
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you know, to make sure that...
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Sean Combs and people like him
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can't do these kind of things
to anybody else.
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[Mara] You've filed
a complaint against Sean Combs
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and Kristina Khorram,
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so we would just
like to discuss with you
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some of those
personal allegations.
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It's hard to come here
and sit down with you
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and talk about
these situations,
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because he was somebody
that I looked up to.
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He said, "What are
you doing here?"
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the first time he spoke to me.
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I said, "Mr. Combs, like,
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working for you is
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a dream of mine.
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I want to be here.
What are you talking about?"
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That was the truth.
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I wanted to work for him.
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And they always say, like...
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[clears throat] ...sometimes
when you meet your heroes,
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they let you down.
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[poignant music playing]
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[Phil] When I started
to work for Mr. Combs,
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it felt amazing.
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It felt like I was around one
of the most powerful people
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in the world, really.
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When it comes to culture,
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you know, he was
so influential
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on everybody.
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So it was just
exciting initially.
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Miami was like a playground
for Mr. Combs.
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He liked warm weather.
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The house was right there
on the bay in Star Island.
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I was a personal assistant,
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someone to staff the principal
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on a day-to-day basis,
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packing his bags,
rolling his calls,
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getting him prepped
for a meeting.
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And then there was
one particular night
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that he came up to me
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and gave me a long list
of items that he wanted
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and requested for his bedroom.
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And that was the night
that I understood
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kind of the excitement
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and what was going
to potentially be
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my responsibility
moving forward.
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Wild King Night was something
that got text messaged to me.
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I kind of started to...
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understand the context
of what that is,
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so then you could
kind of put it together
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and understand,
"Oh, I get it."
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Is the Wild King Night
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the same thing
as the Freak Off?
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Are these the same event
with different names?
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I didn't hear
of Freak-Offs until...
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you know, it came up
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in one of the first claims
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that was presented
to the public.
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I didn't hear of that term.
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So as far as you knew,
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those were always referred to
as Wild King Nights.
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Yeah, Wild King Nights.
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[Mara] Now, Diddy is
also known
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for these extravagant,
star-studded bashes.
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Were the Wild King Nights
happening
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at these big
star-studded events?
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I think there's a...
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a difference and a disparity
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between what people think
they were,
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meaning that there was
hundreds of people
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engaging in these activities.
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That wasn't my experience.
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How many people
would typically be there?
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It's a small batch of people.
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It's a very intimate group
of people.
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What would he require
for a Wild King Night?
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I mean, we usually had
a laundry list of items
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that included lights, alcohol,
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marijuana,
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ketamine, molly.
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We have mushrooms
on the top there.
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Was the code
to the safe "1234"?
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-Yeah.
-[chuckles]
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[Phil] Baby oil
and Astroglide were
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very important.
Candles, incense,
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Apple TVs, electronics,
computers, iPads.
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Obviously, there was
male libido supplements,
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stuff like that.
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Those requests started
to become more frequent.
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It started to occur
on a daily basis.
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There was a requirement.
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We had to keep
those things stocked.
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[Diddy speaking on recording]
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I would get a lot
of voice notes from Diddy.
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How often?
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Daily, hourly,
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every five minutes,
every five seconds.
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Would you ever be
asked to bring things to Diddy
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during a Wild King Night
while it was ongoing?
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Yeah, for sure.
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[Diddy speaking]
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What would you see
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when you would go
into the room?
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There wouldn't be
anything happening
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while you were walking
into the room.
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But there would be
people there?
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Yeah.
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What can you tell us about
who the guests were?
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A lot of times it was girls
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who were a little bit
under the radar
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that didn't have
a lot of influence.
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I think that speaks
to the type of...
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situations people were put in,
you know.
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A lot of times you have him
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with a younger female,
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and there's
a power dynamic there.
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A more impressionable girl is
easier to reel in,
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as opposed to somebody
who might be a celebrity,
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who not going to really do
too much of that
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or kind of give some pushback.
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How old when you say young?
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Twenties.
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So in terms
of the criminal charges
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that Diddy is facing,
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his team has said
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he didn't break any laws.
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These were
all consenting adults.
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The fact that he is facing
criminal charges for this
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shows that the government is
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sexist and puritanical
and uptight,
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and he was just partying.
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These were
all consenting adults.
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What do you make
of that argument?
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Was he just partying
like a rap star,
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or do you believe
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that there were laws
that were broken?
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Look, there's partying,
and then there's...
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partying.
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And in my experience,
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I wasn't in these rooms
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while these things
were happening.
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Consent is between
the people that are engaging,
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and I wasn't there
in these situations
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to understand that consent.
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There was guests that would
frequently come over
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and participate
in these intimate situations.
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Sometimes you would
see new faces.
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Sometimes you'd see
new faces come in
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and you wouldn't
see them again.
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[grave
instrumental music playing]
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[Phil] I remember a time
when Diddy told me to come up
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and grab one
of his guests' bags,
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take her down to the car
and drive her to her hotel.
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[car door closes]
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[Phil] I don't know
what took place.
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All I can say is
that when I brought her down
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to the car,
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she was shaky.
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Visibly shaken.
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Didn't look like
how she looked
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the night before.
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She said something
to the effect of,
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"I've never done
anything like this before."
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Did you ever see
Diddy get violent?
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Did you ever witness violence?
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I absolutely witnessed
violence, yes.
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[Phil] I remember a time
when I saw him assault
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one of his guests
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at his home in Florida.
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Things were getting
a little heated.
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They were being
very argumentative.
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He cursed at her.
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"I told you I was crazy!"
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Kicked her.
She fell to the ground.
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Kicked her again.
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He said,
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"Take off my hoodie."
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She took off the hoodie,
threw it at him.
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She was topless.
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And my quick thinking was
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like, I had
a little jacket on.
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Took it and covered her.
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Got her into the Uber,
and she went home.
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Did you ever see her again?
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I did.
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She was showered with gifts.
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My direct supervisor,
Kristina, was aware of what happened.
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And Kristina told me
to never speak about it again.
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Kristina was his
day-to-day manager.
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Eventually, she became
the chief of staff.
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Everybody at that level,
you know,
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kinda has a right-hand man
or a right-hand woman.
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Someone who could be trusted
with everything.
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From personal to business,
to good, to bad.
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Felt like a marriage.
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This is my soul sister
right here.
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-You know what I'm saying?
-You know, it was me, ma.
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So, we're gonna...
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we're gonna toast to you,
soul sister.
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A lot of times, delegation
would come from her.
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[notification chiming]
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[Mara] These are messages
you've provided
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where, according to you,
Kristina Khorram has said,
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"He's gonna need emergency
cleanup at the hotel."
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Why "emergency cleanup"?
What does that mean?
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That means that he destroyed
the hotel room.
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The longer he's there,
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the more intense
the cleanup is gonna be.
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[Diddy speaking on recording]
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That was, for me, probably one
of the hardest things to do.
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When you get there
and you see the wreckage,
260
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you see the stains,
you see the bodily fluids,
261
00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,065
you see the used condoms,
262
00:11:28,066 --> 00:11:31,999
you see the... the baby oil,
half-used Astroglide
263
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oozing down
the sides of the bottle,
264
00:11:33,767 --> 00:11:34,967
and you have to pick it up.
265
00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,699
Broken glass, urine, blood.
266
00:11:38,700 --> 00:11:43,766
It wasn't uncommon
for there to be stains...
267
00:11:43,767 --> 00:11:44,866
[notification chimes]
268
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[Phil] ...on furniture,
stains on sheets
269
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that we need to remove.
270
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[notification chiming]
271
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One can only imagine
what was actually happening.
272
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It's disgusting.
273
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You know, it's a little
triggering for me
274
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because the smell of baby oil
is something that, like...
275
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I don't ever wanna
have to smell again.
276
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[notification chiming]
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[Phil] I mean, kid you not,
278
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you could slip.
279
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'Cause there was baby oil
over the floor.
280
00:12:24,166 --> 00:12:27,165
There would be baby oil
surrounding the bathtub,
281
00:12:27,166 --> 00:12:29,834
and there would be
a bathtub full of water.
282
00:12:30,667 --> 00:12:33,233
And you would reach
down there to unplug...
283
00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,165
and you would feel
the baby oil was on the tub.
284
00:12:37,166 --> 00:12:39,766
You know, one of the things
that the feds have said in their case
285
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is that these events
were recorded.
286
00:12:42,767 --> 00:12:45,999
Did you ever see evidence
of video recordings?
287
00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,900
Yeah, it was on his devices.
288
00:12:49,500 --> 00:12:52,199
That were
his iPod, his laptop,
289
00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:53,799
even his personal phone.
290
00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,366
I had access
to all those things.
291
00:12:56,367 --> 00:12:59,233
I would see people
engaging in sexual activity.
292
00:12:59,234 --> 00:13:01,065
Did you ever see
293
00:13:01,066 --> 00:13:03,433
Diddy engaging
in sexual activity?
294
00:13:03,434 --> 00:13:05,766
[Phil] I wouldn't
see him engaging,
295
00:13:05,767 --> 00:13:08,099
but I would see him directing.
296
00:13:08,100 --> 00:13:12,099
He's usually the one filming,
from my experience.
297
00:13:12,100 --> 00:13:15,300
You were instructed
to "scrub" these things.
298
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Search history
from the Safari.
299
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You know, delete that.
300
00:13:20,667 --> 00:13:24,666
Delete any photos
and videos that might be on these devices.
301
00:13:24,667 --> 00:13:26,466
If any of his family members
see this,
302
00:13:26,467 --> 00:13:29,866
if any of his partners
or executives come over
303
00:13:29,867 --> 00:13:33,165
and wanna use the iPad
to present him a deck,
304
00:13:33,166 --> 00:13:34,666
they can't see
any of that stuff.
305
00:13:34,667 --> 00:13:36,899
And you can easily stumble
upon those kind of things
306
00:13:36,900 --> 00:13:38,590
when you're using
those devices.
307
00:13:38,867 --> 00:13:40,399
That was my job,
308
00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,300
is to shield
his private life...
309
00:13:44,100 --> 00:13:45,399
from the public.
310
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Did you ever feel
that you were enabling Diddy?
311
00:13:48,867 --> 00:13:51,757
Or did you ever feel complicit
or responsible in any way?
312
00:13:51,758 --> 00:13:54,466
[Phil] When you're working
for someone like that,
313
00:13:54,467 --> 00:13:58,265
you are trusting
their authority to be sound
314
00:13:58,266 --> 00:14:02,065
and capable
of making decisions.
315
00:14:02,066 --> 00:14:05,666
You know, moral compass
was obviously
316
00:14:05,667 --> 00:14:06,432
something I was questioning
317
00:14:06,433 --> 00:14:08,599
when I started
to experience him.
318
00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,566
It takes me back to that time,
and how I felt
319
00:14:11,567 --> 00:14:15,265
and how I looked
was very apparent
320
00:14:15,266 --> 00:14:18,999
that I was
physically not there.
321
00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,499
Very skinny.
322
00:14:20,500 --> 00:14:22,900
Uh, a lot of people
were asking me if I was sick.
323
00:14:22,901 --> 00:14:25,466
I was just pushing myself
to the limit
324
00:14:25,467 --> 00:14:27,265
'cause that was
the expectation.
325
00:14:27,266 --> 00:14:28,766
I couldn't think for myself
326
00:14:28,767 --> 00:14:33,233
because everything
was about him and the job.
327
00:14:34,266 --> 00:14:36,533
How important
was loyalty to Diddy?
328
00:14:37,300 --> 00:14:38,350
Everything.
329
00:14:39,100 --> 00:14:41,099
I mean, you don't get
that close to him
330
00:14:41,100 --> 00:14:42,899
without earning his trust.
331
00:14:42,900 --> 00:14:44,699
Did he ever test you?
332
00:14:44,700 --> 00:14:46,870
Did he ever try
to make you prove yourself?
333
00:14:47,100 --> 00:14:48,400
[Phil] Yeah.
334
00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,130
It's something that
I'll never forget, actually.
335
00:14:52,667 --> 00:14:54,000
I think my life changed...
336
00:14:55,300 --> 00:14:56,800
a lot from that day.
337
00:14:57,667 --> 00:14:59,800
And I've never really
recovered from it.
338
00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,990
[Phil] This particular incident,
he had been drinking all day.
339
00:15:08,991 --> 00:15:12,899
The party and the group
of people got smaller
340
00:15:12,900 --> 00:15:14,366
and smaller and smaller.
341
00:15:14,367 --> 00:15:16,934
It got condensed down
to just a few people.
342
00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:18,566
And yeah, he...
343
00:15:18,567 --> 00:15:20,433
"Hey, set up
the vibe upstairs."
344
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The vibe is the lights,
the alcohol, the drugs,
345
00:15:25,567 --> 00:15:27,065
the things
that he likes to use
346
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when he's gonna party.
347
00:15:28,901 --> 00:15:30,265
That wasn't uncommon.
348
00:15:30,266 --> 00:15:32,256
I felt like this was
just a normal thing.
349
00:15:33,100 --> 00:15:35,300
But that turned very quickly.
350
00:15:38,266 --> 00:15:41,265
I took a shot with him,
with the... with the group.
351
00:15:41,266 --> 00:15:43,766
Which, again, wasn't uncommon.
It was rare,
352
00:15:43,767 --> 00:15:45,999
but it wasn't uncommon
for you to, you know,
353
00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,766
have a drink with him
every now and then.
354
00:15:47,767 --> 00:15:49,766
That was his way
of kind of, like,
355
00:15:49,767 --> 00:15:51,533
making sure
you felt comfortable.
356
00:15:52,767 --> 00:15:55,766
And then go back
to the office, sit there,
357
00:15:55,767 --> 00:15:57,966
get someone
to get into the room.
358
00:15:57,967 --> 00:16:00,165
"Come take a shot,"
take a shot.
359
00:16:00,166 --> 00:16:02,133
He's out of his mind
at this point.
360
00:16:02,134 --> 00:16:04,032
I mean, you could tell,
and this, again,
361
00:16:04,033 --> 00:16:07,000
he's in a rare form,
as we would call that, a rare form.
362
00:16:11,467 --> 00:16:13,700
-[exhales]
-It's okay. Take your time.
363
00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,510
I remember
hearing the words...
364
00:16:19,500 --> 00:16:21,900
"prove your loyalty
to me, king."
365
00:16:22,667 --> 00:16:24,500
He's grabbing me
by the shoulders.
366
00:16:24,501 --> 00:16:26,866
Kinda gave me
a quick massage,
367
00:16:26,867 --> 00:16:28,999
like a coach
would give a player
368
00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,810
that's about to enter
the game, and...
369
00:16:31,867 --> 00:16:33,400
handed me a condom.
370
00:16:34,867 --> 00:16:37,366
Pushed me to a girl
that was on the couch,
371
00:16:37,367 --> 00:16:38,500
a guest.
372
00:16:41,367 --> 00:16:42,700
[sighs]
373
00:16:43,700 --> 00:16:45,999
I froze before it took place.
374
00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,999
Didn't know what was
really happening.
375
00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,400
So in the moment,
it just felt like...
376
00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,399
"What? What... like,
this is... is this, uh...
377
00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,699
is this fun for him?
Is this a... a test?
378
00:16:58,700 --> 00:16:59,866
Is this for entertainment?
379
00:16:59,867 --> 00:17:01,866
Does he know
that he's actually doing this?
380
00:17:01,867 --> 00:17:03,233
Is he that gone?"
381
00:17:05,867 --> 00:17:07,233
I didn't know what to do.
382
00:17:09,500 --> 00:17:12,566
She gave me the consent,
you know, like, "Yeah."
383
00:17:12,567 --> 00:17:14,000
Nodded in her head.
384
00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,900
And I performed
for a little bit.
385
00:17:19,367 --> 00:17:21,165
And then I ran out of there
386
00:17:21,166 --> 00:17:23,456
as soon as I didn't see him
in my sight anymore.
387
00:17:27,767 --> 00:17:29,300
Why didn't you just say no?
388
00:17:29,457 --> 00:17:34,666
No one knows
what it feels like to be in that situation
389
00:17:34,667 --> 00:17:36,966
until you're in
that situation.
390
00:17:36,967 --> 00:17:42,366
I heard about
previous employees getting physically assaulted.
391
00:17:42,367 --> 00:17:44,499
I saw how angry
and upset he could get
392
00:17:44,500 --> 00:17:46,634
from the most simplest thing.
393
00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,700
And I just thought
to myself...
394
00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:55,233
"If I don't do this,
I don't know what's gonna happen."
395
00:17:56,266 --> 00:17:57,999
Phil, was that the only time
396
00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,366
that he forced you
to cross the line?
397
00:18:00,367 --> 00:18:05,000
Yeah, when it came
to engaging in that type of activity, yeah.
398
00:18:06,500 --> 00:18:10,566
I had a great sense of remorse
following that situation
399
00:18:10,567 --> 00:18:12,033
right from the jump.
400
00:18:13,166 --> 00:18:16,165
I wanted to tell somebody,
401
00:18:16,166 --> 00:18:18,133
but there was
so much at stake.
402
00:18:19,500 --> 00:18:21,265
I knew if I had said anything,
403
00:18:21,266 --> 00:18:24,500
that a kind of bomb
would just explode.
404
00:18:28,100 --> 00:18:29,900
I hid that from everybody.
405
00:18:32,166 --> 00:18:34,516
Including my significant
other and my family...
406
00:18:35,367 --> 00:18:36,800
other employees.
407
00:18:42,758 --> 00:18:46,299
I come from
a Christian background.
408
00:18:46,300 --> 00:18:48,033
I lean on
those morals heavily.
409
00:18:58,166 --> 00:18:59,233
Sorry.
410
00:19:01,066 --> 00:19:03,033
He got me.
He got me.
411
00:19:07,300 --> 00:19:08,766
It was a circus.
412
00:19:08,767 --> 00:19:10,233
He did whatever he wanted.
413
00:19:11,100 --> 00:19:12,834
And we were just
at his disposal.
414
00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,866
-Power to the people.
-[man] Uh-huh.
415
00:19:15,867 --> 00:19:17,165
Say it, "Power
to the people."
416
00:19:17,166 --> 00:19:18,734
[all] Power the people.
417
00:19:19,767 --> 00:19:21,466
[Phil] He's a predator.
418
00:19:21,467 --> 00:19:25,466
And I mean that
in a sexually charged way.
419
00:19:25,467 --> 00:19:29,099
I mean that
a manipulation way.
420
00:19:29,100 --> 00:19:31,566
Let's give it up
for ourselves.
421
00:19:31,567 --> 00:19:32,966
[Phil]
He has an innate ability
422
00:19:32,967 --> 00:19:34,799
to make you feel comfortable
423
00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,299
and to make you
do things for him
424
00:19:36,300 --> 00:19:37,834
that you would never do.
425
00:19:39,367 --> 00:19:42,100
When the lights go off
and the red lights go on...
426
00:19:42,700 --> 00:19:44,165
he seemed different.
427
00:19:44,166 --> 00:19:46,533
His dark presence, heavy.
428
00:19:47,667 --> 00:19:49,666
And that was my experience.
429
00:19:49,667 --> 00:19:50,999
That was
everybody's experience
430
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,500
who... who knew him...
431
00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,700
beyond the lights and cameras.
432
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,366
I'm hoping my story
and my truth
433
00:20:00,367 --> 00:20:03,099
can help others
get to the light.
434
00:20:03,100 --> 00:20:06,700
'Cause it's dark around him.
435
00:20:06,701 --> 00:20:08,616
It's very dark.
436
00:20:08,617 --> 00:20:13,167
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