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ERIN:
Okay, this is it.
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KATHY [over phone]:
We're broadcasting on WQTI,
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streaming on WQTI.org.
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The name of our live podcast
is Justice Denied.
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Our guest is Jeffrey Durning,
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distinguished heart surgeon,
philanthropist,
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and defendant in one of the most
sensational murder trials
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of the decade.
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Jeffrey, thanks
for joining us.
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JEFFREY: Thank you
for having me on, Kathy.
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Oh, please,
give me a break.
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You know they can't
hear you, right?
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KATHY: I must admit,
I feel a little strange
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talking to you.
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The last time we saw each other
was a year ago in the courtroom
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when I was prosecuting you
for killing your wife Beth.
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JEFFREY: I'm glad you had
the courage to re-examine
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the evidence and come to
a more honest conclusion,
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which is more than I can say
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for some of your
former colleagues.
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Yeah, well,
if he's so honest,
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how come you're
hiding from us,
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and telling your story on the
air instead of in a courtroom?
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The first trial ended
in a hung jury,
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so tell me, why do you think
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the Manhattan D.A.'s office
is coming after you again?
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Maybe because
you killed your wife
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and you dumped her body
from a plane over the Atlantic?
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JEFFREY: Obviously,
the office has had a series
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of high-profile disasters.
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They're looking for
a rich, white man's scalp
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to make up for them.
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Of course, now we have
my old friend
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Erin Reagan saying
she has new evidence,
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but like your wife's body,
no one has seen it.
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Police!
Come on, out of the way.
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Move! Get out of the way.
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Oh, it looks like
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we have some surprise
guests joining us.
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We're gonna take a break.
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[taps on glass]
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Where is he?
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Obviously not
on the premises.
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[car alarm blaring]
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Oh, my God,
I hate these things!
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Aren't they supposed to shut off
after three minutes?
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It's an older model; I guess
the guy didn't get the message
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he needed to get it fixed.
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Or that he needs to move
the car for street cleaning.
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How long has it been here?
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A couple days at least, right?
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Excuse me, ma'am!
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[car alarm continues blaring]
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You know whose car this is?
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Hey, handsome.
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What's it worth
to you?
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[chuckles]
Well...
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My tenant,
Harry Clark.
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I keep telling him
he needs a new car.
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I know he can afford it.
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Would you have
him come down?
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I would, if I'd seen him lately.
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Ma'am, do you notice that
smell inside your apartment?
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No.
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But my nose stopped working
years ago.
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Too much fun
in the '70s.
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You know what I'm saying.
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Come we come take a look?
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Sure. Come on in.
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Ugh.
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Ma'am, can you please
wait outside?
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[gags]
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[coughs]
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[groans]
Eddie, he's in here.
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Oh, he's ripe.
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[groans]
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[coughs]
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[groans]
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It's been a few days, huh?
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Oh.
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Poor Harry.
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Ma'am, I asked you
to wait outside.Aw.
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Is this Harry Clark, ma'am?
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Yeah.
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Although, come to think of it,
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I'm not sure
that's his realname.
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What do you mean?
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I never saw a bank check
with his name on it.
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Always paid the
rent in cash.
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And some of his mail came
with different names on it.
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Do you have a next of kin
we can contact?
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No. No one ever
visited him.
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Uh, Eddie, see if you can
find some Vicks.
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The smell's starting
to get to me.
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I may have some.Thank you, ma'am.
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We're all set, thank you.Oh.
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Well, if you need me
for anything, just call me.
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And, you, just call me.
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Okay.
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[exhales]
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Good to see you, Nick.
You're looking well.
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Thank you. You, too.
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Thanks for this.
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Yeah.
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How's the family?
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Good.
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Yours?Grown up and out.
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Your son, kind of a hothead,
whatever happened to him?
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Detective, first grade.Oh.
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And the other one,
going to Harvard?
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On the job as well,
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and my daughter Erin
works for the D.A.'s office.
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It's nice having
a family business, huh?
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It is.
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You know, Frank, when I heard
that you got your father's job,
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I was happy
to hear that.
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They gave it to the right man.
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Thank you.
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Tyrell Dawes,
come on in.
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Sit down.
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You know why you're here?
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My parole officer said
I should come by here,
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but I didn't have to by law.
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This is your Offender
Notification Forum.
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We hold them for people
who just got out of prison
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with a high risk
of going back.
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Come on, man, what do
you got, a crystal ball?
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You're a gang member
who just did three and a half
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for committing a robbery
with a handgun
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in New York City.
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[scoffs] Come on, man.
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What do you got, an extra
eight-by-ten for my moms?
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Turn it over.
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What's "15" mean?
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That's the number of years
you'll do
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if you commit another crime
with a gun.
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And that's a hard number;
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there won't be
any pleading it down.
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It's up to you, Tyrell.
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None of y'all know me.
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None of y'all know where
I been or where I'm going.
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Yeah, we do.
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You want to tell him
or should I?
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May I?
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I am here for
the same reason that you are,
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because the commissioner
asked me to be here,
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and because I just finished
a 20-year bid of my own
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in the state prison.
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I could still be in that prison.
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I killed someone
who threatened my family.
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Commissioner Reagan,
who at that time
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was Detective Reagan,
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he could've buried me.
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But he didn't.
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He gave me a fair shake.
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So...
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I'd listen to him.
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Man, is this real?
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Every word.
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[sighs]
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[exhales]
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[panting]
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Look at this.
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They're all $100 bills.
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There's got to be tens of
thousands of dollars in here.
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Eddie, I wouldn't be
touching that.
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"Dear Sandi, I am so sorry
about everything.
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Maybe the rest of this money
will help."
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What's he got
to be sorry for?
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Yeah, and who was he?
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♪
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[groaning]DANNY: What do we got?
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Four wounded.
One serious and likely to die.
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Shootout inside the diner.
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One of the rounds went
through the front window.
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The likely is
an Alex Kalamogdartis.
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Kala-what?
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I don't know,
it's Greek.
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Okay, what about
the other three vics?
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Two of them
were other customers,
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and the third was a 12-year-old
boy walking by outside
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with his family.
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Don't ask me
to pronounce his name.
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Okay, so we got a gang war at
a greasy spoon. Any witnesses?
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Well, no one's talking about
why it jumped off tonight.
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We do know this Alex
may have had a dispute
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with the management.
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Any actual witnesses
to the shooting?
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Not so much.
Hey, boss.
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Everyone's saying how it was
too dark to see anything.
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Too dark in a
brightly lit diner?
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Well, they've been
renting it out
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as pop-up nightclub
sometimes.
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The current owner
is over there,
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Stavros Constantine.
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Hey, Stavros.
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Hey! Want to tell us
what this is about?
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I mean, I have no idea.
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We've never had any trouble
on club nights before.
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Oh, well, can't imagine
people shooting your place up
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if all you're doing
is serving moussaka.
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Listen, I'm as confused
as you are, okay?
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One minute, I'm in the back
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making sure we got enough
champagne for bottle service,
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and the next,
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bang, bang, bang, it's all hell
is breaking loose.
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So you're trying
to tell us
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you don't know anything
about this Alex Kala-what?
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...mogdartis.
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Kalamogdartis.
Yeah, yeah, of course.
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Of course I know
Alex Kalamogdartis.
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It's like the Trojan War
with our families.
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What's that mean?
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He's been trying
to take over our diner.
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Mm-hmm.But he's been doing that
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to a lot of local businesses;
he's a thug.
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And you have no idea
who shot him.
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I'm afraid I-I can't help you.
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Can't or won't?
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Okay, well,
we're gonna assume
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that you don't have
a cabaret license
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for this little nightclub
of yours,
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so here's what we're gonna do.
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You're gonna get your hands
out of your pocket,
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and then you're gonna
take a ride with us.
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See if that jogs
your memory. Come on.
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[groans] So what?
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Now that the supervisors
have been and gone,
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we just have to sit here,
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safeguard the place until
the public administrator
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comes and starts to try to make
inventory of all this?
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Real-life police work, Eddie.
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It's not all
paperwork and donuts.
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[chuckles]
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You know, we turned over
a lot of money yesterday,
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and there's still
no next of kin.
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Some of this junk lying around
might be worth something.
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Bosses just want us
to keep an eye on it
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till things get settled.
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Yeah, well, hey, can we
open a window, please?
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The guy's gone,
but that stink is
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very much still here.
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You know,
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Harry must have been
hiding from something.
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Or someone.
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Sounds like he's been
locked up in this apartment
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the last 25 years.
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Hey, Jamie,
do you remember
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the New York
Benefactors' Trust robbery?
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1992, $21 million stolen.
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Yeah, biggest heist
in the city's history.
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Most of it never recovered.
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Keep finding all these clippings
that Harry kept about it.
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Jamie, you don't think...
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[sighs]
256
00:11:20,244 --> 00:11:22,769
Should we order first
or argue first?
257
00:11:22,812 --> 00:11:24,814
I'm happy to get
business out of the way.
258
00:11:24,858 --> 00:11:26,990
We have an arrest warrant
for Jeffrey Durning,
259
00:11:27,034 --> 00:11:28,557
and I want to know
where he is.
260
00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,341
What if I told you I don't know?
261
00:11:30,385 --> 00:11:31,821
Except that he's somewhere
in Europe.
262
00:11:31,865 --> 00:11:33,605
I wouldn't believe you.
263
00:11:33,649 --> 00:11:35,172
This isn't about me.
264
00:11:35,216 --> 00:11:37,000
It's about the facts
of the case.
265
00:11:37,044 --> 00:11:38,872
Right after the trial,
266
00:11:38,915 --> 00:11:43,877
I started hearing from witnesses
that Beth might still be alive.
267
00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,140
She was a very
unstable woman, Erin.
268
00:11:46,183 --> 00:11:48,055
We are going to retry this case.
269
00:11:48,098 --> 00:11:50,057
We just need him
back in custody.
270
00:11:50,100 --> 00:11:53,190
Obviously, you're worried
about losing this case
271
00:11:53,234 --> 00:11:55,279
in a court of public opinion
before it goes to trial.
272
00:11:55,323 --> 00:11:56,716
If you have new evidence,
273
00:11:56,759 --> 00:11:58,456
why don't you come on my show
to talk about it?
274
00:11:58,500 --> 00:12:01,068
How about this?
275
00:12:01,111 --> 00:12:03,766
I have you subpoenaed and
brought before the grand jury,
276
00:12:03,810 --> 00:12:05,899
and if you don't answer the
questions, I will ask the judge
277
00:12:05,942 --> 00:12:07,291
to hold you in contempt.
278
00:12:07,335 --> 00:12:08,640
You'll never win.
279
00:12:08,684 --> 00:12:09,859
Classic First Amendment case.
280
00:12:09,903 --> 00:12:12,209
But I don't have to
tell you that, do I?
281
00:12:13,341 --> 00:12:15,082
[sighs]
282
00:12:17,127 --> 00:12:18,738
Good luck, Erin.
283
00:12:18,781 --> 00:12:22,089
I guess I wasn't
all that hungry anyway.
284
00:12:22,132 --> 00:12:23,525
But maybe you are.
285
00:12:34,318 --> 00:12:36,320
[indistinct chatter,
phones ringing]
286
00:12:41,543 --> 00:12:44,198
You weren't 100% honest with us
last night, were you?
287
00:12:44,241 --> 00:12:46,200
What do you mean?
288
00:12:46,243 --> 00:12:47,331
I think you had more than
289
00:12:47,375 --> 00:12:49,420
breakfast, lunch and dinner
on the menu.
290
00:12:49,464 --> 00:12:50,726
Alex K is a known
drug dealer.
291
00:12:50,770 --> 00:12:52,206
He came to your place
with a beef.
292
00:12:52,249 --> 00:12:53,860
Now, you're trying
to tell me
293
00:12:53,903 --> 00:12:56,601
that if we bring the dogs in,
they're not gonna find anything?
294
00:12:56,645 --> 00:12:58,081
I'm no drug dealer.
295
00:12:58,125 --> 00:12:59,735
I run a family business.
296
00:12:59,779 --> 00:13:02,129
Okay, well, maybe you wouldn't
let him sell drugs in your club,
297
00:13:02,172 --> 00:13:03,783
and that's why he had a beef.
298
00:13:05,262 --> 00:13:07,134
Come on, help me
understand here.
299
00:13:07,177 --> 00:13:09,223
[knocking on door]
300
00:13:09,266 --> 00:13:10,267
[sighs]
301
00:13:13,096 --> 00:13:15,185
Finally got a couple
of witness statements
302
00:13:15,229 --> 00:13:18,101
and a photo from
a parking lot camera.
303
00:13:23,193 --> 00:13:25,282
[whispers]:
Good work.
304
00:13:26,893 --> 00:13:28,764
Hmm.What's up?
305
00:13:28,808 --> 00:13:32,115
You know, I'm thinking,
if you didn't fire the shots,
306
00:13:32,159 --> 00:13:34,291
then you definitely know
who did.
307
00:13:34,335 --> 00:13:35,336
Who's this?
308
00:13:38,426 --> 00:13:39,949
I don't know.
309
00:13:39,993 --> 00:13:41,385
You want to keep your business?
310
00:13:41,429 --> 00:13:42,560
You're gonna take another look
311
00:13:42,604 --> 00:13:44,258
and give me an honest answer
this time.
312
00:13:44,301 --> 00:13:46,303
Come on.
313
00:13:46,347 --> 00:13:48,305
Come on! Who is it?!
314
00:13:54,268 --> 00:13:56,444
It's my father.
315
00:14:02,406 --> 00:14:03,755
FRANK:
Nick Constantine
316
00:14:03,799 --> 00:14:06,019
is hardly a friend;
I arrested him once.
317
00:14:06,062 --> 00:14:07,020
Not just that.
318
00:14:07,063 --> 00:14:08,369
Your testimony at his trial...
319
00:14:08,412 --> 00:14:10,371
Was entirely truthful.
320
00:14:10,414 --> 00:14:11,328
And helpful to the defense.
321
00:14:11,372 --> 00:14:13,243
And now that
same person
322
00:14:13,287 --> 00:14:15,985
was present, arguably
with motive, at the scene
323
00:14:16,029 --> 00:14:17,378
of a shooting and
can't be found.
324
00:14:17,421 --> 00:14:18,596
Am I, in some way, suggesting
325
00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:19,946
we give him
a head start?No, boss.
326
00:14:19,989 --> 00:14:21,469
Then what's your point?
327
00:14:21,512 --> 00:14:23,950
That old media has
handed down the perception
328
00:14:23,993 --> 00:14:26,213
that you pulled punches
when you testified at his trial.
329
00:14:26,256 --> 00:14:28,432
And two days ago,
he was at your side
330
00:14:28,476 --> 00:14:30,217
at an
Offender's Notification Forum
331
00:14:30,260 --> 00:14:32,088
in the role of model ex-con.
332
00:14:32,132 --> 00:14:33,916
I tell you what,
you manage the perception,
333
00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,265
I'll manage my department.
334
00:14:35,309 --> 00:14:37,354
Less than a month ago,
you came out strong
335
00:14:37,398 --> 00:14:38,790
against the mayor's
Fresh Start program.
336
00:14:38,834 --> 00:14:39,791
This isn't that.
337
00:14:39,835 --> 00:14:42,316
Not your call,
all due respect.
338
00:14:42,359 --> 00:14:43,883
You need to distance yourself
from the appearance
339
00:14:43,926 --> 00:14:45,797
that you've put your eggs
in the Nick Constantine basket.
340
00:14:45,841 --> 00:14:48,452
A man does a wrong thing
once in his life,
341
00:14:48,496 --> 00:14:50,019
in this case,
for the right reason.
342
00:14:50,063 --> 00:14:51,455
There is a part of me
343
00:14:51,499 --> 00:14:54,415
that believes that there can,
in fact, be a chance
344
00:14:54,458 --> 00:14:56,460
for a second act
in people's lives.
345
00:14:58,245 --> 00:14:59,681
Any idea where he's headed?
346
00:14:59,724 --> 00:15:02,423
We're tracking friends,
cell records and credit cards,
347
00:15:02,466 --> 00:15:03,815
but after 20 years,
348
00:15:03,859 --> 00:15:05,992
he doesn't have that much
of a network to plug into.
349
00:15:06,035 --> 00:15:07,515
Which means
he can't be that far.
350
00:15:07,558 --> 00:15:08,733
Let's make it clear
351
00:15:08,777 --> 00:15:10,344
that we're devoting
all our resources
352
00:15:10,387 --> 00:15:12,955
to hunting him down
and making sure he pays.
353
00:15:12,999 --> 00:15:14,826
In other words, grandstand
before all the facts are in.
354
00:15:16,176 --> 00:15:18,134
Is he even the prime suspect?
355
00:15:18,178 --> 00:15:21,007
Well, he's more than
a person of interest.
356
00:15:21,050 --> 00:15:23,705
Then let's just find him.
357
00:15:30,016 --> 00:15:33,541
Yeah. Yeah, thanks.
358
00:15:33,584 --> 00:15:35,412
Public administrator's
gonna be another day.
359
00:15:35,456 --> 00:15:36,979
They are backed up
and understaffed.
360
00:15:37,023 --> 00:15:39,808
Well, Jamie,
I just found more cash.
361
00:15:39,851 --> 00:15:41,331
Shouldn't we tell
362
00:15:41,375 --> 00:15:42,724
major case
this could all be connected
363
00:15:42,767 --> 00:15:44,117
to that bank robbery?
364
00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,466
I already put a call in.
365
00:15:45,509 --> 00:15:47,207
It's no longer
an active investigation.
366
00:15:47,250 --> 00:15:48,948
All the robbers
are either
367
00:15:48,991 --> 00:15:50,427
dead or in prison,
and the bank went under
368
00:15:50,471 --> 00:15:51,776
in the crash of '08.
369
00:15:51,820 --> 00:15:53,909
We got no reason to think
that Harry was involved
370
00:15:53,953 --> 00:15:55,215
other than the clippings.
371
00:15:55,258 --> 00:15:56,825
This cash could be legitimate.
372
00:15:56,868 --> 00:15:58,435
Well, then where did
all the money come from?
373
00:15:58,479 --> 00:15:59,871
Doesn't look like
this guy's had a job
374
00:15:59,915 --> 00:16:01,612
in a really long time.
375
00:16:01,656 --> 00:16:04,441
And why all this
dog stuff and no dog?
376
00:16:04,485 --> 00:16:07,444
Hey, we just walked in your
apartment, what would we find?
377
00:16:07,488 --> 00:16:09,316
Some laundry that
needs to be folded,
378
00:16:09,359 --> 00:16:12,145
couple unpaid bills, maybe
something in the DVD player
379
00:16:12,188 --> 00:16:13,537
I'd rather nobody find out.
380
00:16:13,581 --> 00:16:14,625
Really?
381
00:16:14,669 --> 00:16:16,497
The Little Mermaid.
382
00:16:16,540 --> 00:16:17,498
Oh.
383
00:16:17,541 --> 00:16:19,500
Jamie, I don't know.
384
00:16:19,543 --> 00:16:22,111
Part of me thinks this could be
an integrity test by IAB
385
00:16:22,155 --> 00:16:23,504
to see what we would
actually do.
386
00:16:23,547 --> 00:16:25,332
Do you know how crazy
that sounds?
387
00:16:25,375 --> 00:16:26,333
[scoffs]
388
00:16:26,376 --> 00:16:28,509
[knocking on door]
389
00:16:31,425 --> 00:16:32,861
Can I help you?
390
00:16:32,904 --> 00:16:34,994
Officer Jamie Reagan?
391
00:16:35,037 --> 00:16:38,301
You left
a message for me.
392
00:16:38,345 --> 00:16:39,433
About Harry Clark.
393
00:16:39,476 --> 00:16:41,087
I'm Sandi Harper.
394
00:16:41,130 --> 00:16:43,393
This is
my grandson, David.
395
00:16:43,437 --> 00:16:45,395
You knew him?
He was a friend?
396
00:16:45,439 --> 00:16:47,310
I knew him.
397
00:16:47,354 --> 00:16:50,922
I wouldn't say
he was a friend exactly.
398
00:16:50,966 --> 00:16:53,012
He just sent me money.
399
00:16:56,928 --> 00:16:59,366
Mindy, I don't know
what this is.
400
00:16:59,409 --> 00:17:01,846
You gave us a statement
that Jeffrey told you
401
00:17:01,890 --> 00:17:03,065
about killing his wife,
402
00:17:03,109 --> 00:17:04,588
and now you're just
trying to take it back?
403
00:17:06,199 --> 00:17:09,941
Jeffrey came to visit me
the other night.
404
00:17:09,985 --> 00:17:11,595
At my apartment.
405
00:17:11,639 --> 00:17:12,988
He's still in town?
406
00:17:13,032 --> 00:17:14,381
He heard that I was helping you
407
00:17:14,424 --> 00:17:16,992
and telling you the things
that he said about Beth
408
00:17:17,036 --> 00:17:18,385
and how she disappeared.
409
00:17:18,428 --> 00:17:20,300
Did he say
how he heard?
410
00:17:20,343 --> 00:17:23,520
It sounded like he had a source
that knew people at this office.
411
00:17:26,523 --> 00:17:29,439
He said that
I could disappear, too.
412
00:17:29,483 --> 00:17:30,658
Just like Beth.
413
00:17:30,701 --> 00:17:32,529
He directly threatened you?
414
00:17:32,573 --> 00:17:35,271
He made it clear
that it wouldn't be good for me.
415
00:17:35,315 --> 00:17:36,881
He called me
his little shark bait.
416
00:17:36,925 --> 00:17:38,492
Like it was a joke.
417
00:17:38,535 --> 00:17:40,798
And then he left.
418
00:17:40,842 --> 00:17:43,497
He thinks you guys
will never find him.
419
00:17:43,540 --> 00:17:47,327
I understand you're scared,
but we need your testimony.
420
00:17:47,370 --> 00:17:49,894
Otherwise, he's gonna go out
and do this to someone else.
421
00:17:49,938 --> 00:17:52,680
Seriously?
Like this is my fault?
422
00:17:54,116 --> 00:17:55,770
I tried to tell you people
about this before,
423
00:17:55,813 --> 00:17:56,858
and you wouldn't believe me.
424
00:17:56,901 --> 00:17:59,208
You tried to tell who?
425
00:17:59,252 --> 00:18:02,168
The prosecutor
who had this case before you.
426
00:18:02,211 --> 00:18:03,995
Kathy Elliott.
427
00:18:11,568 --> 00:18:13,657
DANNY: Traffic camera
last spotted Nick's car
428
00:18:13,701 --> 00:18:15,398
at this intersection.
429
00:18:17,008 --> 00:18:19,402
You see anything yet?
430
00:18:19,446 --> 00:18:21,187
BAEZ:
This is it.
431
00:18:21,230 --> 00:18:22,797
This is the car
Nick was driving.
432
00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:24,103
Of all the places
433
00:18:24,146 --> 00:18:25,626
he could be hiding out,
and he chooses a diner?
434
00:18:25,669 --> 00:18:27,149
Well, it makes sense.
435
00:18:27,193 --> 00:18:28,585
He's probably hungry,
doesn't have a lot of cash.
436
00:18:28,629 --> 00:18:29,804
Go with what you know.
437
00:18:29,847 --> 00:18:31,588
Like a married guy
who divorces his wife,
438
00:18:31,632 --> 00:18:33,547
then marries
the same kind of girl.
439
00:18:33,590 --> 00:18:35,070
Shouldn't we call it in
440
00:18:35,114 --> 00:18:36,506
and wait for backup?
No.
441
00:18:36,550 --> 00:18:38,595
We're not gonna let him
run out on the check this time.
442
00:18:38,639 --> 00:18:39,596
[sighs]
443
00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,598
[indistinct chatter]
444
00:18:54,481 --> 00:18:56,787
You go that way.
445
00:18:57,919 --> 00:19:00,269
Excuse me.
I need you to follow me.
446
00:19:00,313 --> 00:19:03,142
Nick Constantine.
447
00:19:04,273 --> 00:19:06,493
How the hell you been?
448
00:19:07,537 --> 00:19:08,930
Remind me.
449
00:19:08,973 --> 00:19:10,105
Danny Reagan.
450
00:19:11,237 --> 00:19:12,542
Think you know my old man.
451
00:19:12,586 --> 00:19:16,285
Right, Danny.
452
00:19:16,329 --> 00:19:17,504
The hothead.
453
00:19:17,547 --> 00:19:18,505
How you doing?
454
00:19:18,548 --> 00:19:20,507
Maybe we should talk outside.
455
00:19:20,550 --> 00:19:23,249
Why would I do that?
456
00:19:23,292 --> 00:19:25,164
Everybody out of the diner.
Let's go.
457
00:19:26,643 --> 00:19:27,905
Let's go. Come on. Come on.
458
00:19:40,657 --> 00:19:42,355
You know, Danny,
459
00:19:42,398 --> 00:19:44,052
at my age...
460
00:19:46,097 --> 00:19:48,535
...I'm not going back to prison.
461
00:19:48,578 --> 00:19:51,146
We can do this the hard way
if you want.
462
00:19:51,190 --> 00:19:52,756
But I think
you might've caused
463
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,106
enough pain
for your family already.
464
00:20:01,243 --> 00:20:05,552
If... ifI come with you,
465
00:20:05,595 --> 00:20:08,642
quietly...
466
00:20:08,685 --> 00:20:10,731
it's on one condition.
467
00:20:10,774 --> 00:20:12,428
I'm listening.
468
00:20:12,472 --> 00:20:15,823
I talk to Frank.
469
00:20:15,866 --> 00:20:17,825
Nobody else.
470
00:20:17,868 --> 00:20:19,435
Just Frank.
471
00:20:21,481 --> 00:20:23,222
I'll see what I could do.
472
00:20:36,104 --> 00:20:38,367
What's the old man doing?
473
00:20:38,411 --> 00:20:40,021
Talk to him.
474
00:20:52,120 --> 00:20:55,210
I got word your suspect
wanted to speak to me.
475
00:20:55,254 --> 00:20:57,081
Yeah, he asked.
476
00:20:57,125 --> 00:20:58,735
And I didn't say yes.
477
00:20:58,779 --> 00:21:00,694
Why not?
478
00:21:00,737 --> 00:21:03,131
I don't typically offer up
the commissioner's time
479
00:21:03,174 --> 00:21:04,524
as part of my deals.
480
00:21:04,567 --> 00:21:07,483
I'd like to make an exception
in this instance.
481
00:21:07,527 --> 00:21:09,833
Well, since when
do you come down here
482
00:21:09,877 --> 00:21:11,357
because a suspect asked you to?
483
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,751
Can't think of
the last time I did.
484
00:21:14,795 --> 00:21:17,014
Look,
485
00:21:17,058 --> 00:21:18,625
I know he's your collar,
486
00:21:18,668 --> 00:21:22,324
and you certainly don't
need my help, Detective.
487
00:21:22,368 --> 00:21:24,326
You're as good as I got, but...
488
00:21:26,850 --> 00:21:28,852
...he was my collar first.
489
00:21:31,855 --> 00:21:33,466
I have to know.
490
00:21:33,509 --> 00:21:36,120
Well, he's in the box.
491
00:21:36,164 --> 00:21:40,124
It might be better
if I talked to him in here.
492
00:21:41,865 --> 00:21:43,476
Okay.
493
00:21:43,519 --> 00:21:44,694
Thank you.
494
00:21:44,738 --> 00:21:47,175
By the way,
the gun we found on him
495
00:21:47,218 --> 00:21:49,308
does match the one
used in the murder.
496
00:21:55,749 --> 00:21:57,838
[door closes]
497
00:22:09,589 --> 00:22:12,983
The coffee at our diner used to
be the best coffee in the city.
498
00:22:13,027 --> 00:22:14,985
There's no
chain places,
499
00:22:15,029 --> 00:22:17,814
one supplier for all
of the diners in town.
500
00:22:17,858 --> 00:22:20,513
No special bean that
comes out of a cat's ass.
501
00:22:20,556 --> 00:22:23,211
I didn't come down here
to reminisce about coffee.
502
00:22:23,254 --> 00:22:24,908
Hmm.
503
00:22:24,952 --> 00:22:28,042
Alex Kalamogdartis.
504
00:22:28,085 --> 00:22:30,349
He was not
a nice young man, Frank.
505
00:22:30,392 --> 00:22:33,352
Well, he died this morning.
506
00:22:34,962 --> 00:22:36,442
And "not nice" is not grounds
507
00:22:36,485 --> 00:22:38,574
for a justifiable homicide,
Nick.
508
00:22:38,618 --> 00:22:40,054
Rotten apple from a rotten tree.
509
00:22:40,097 --> 00:22:42,796
Come on, the kid had a record
as long as the old man.
510
00:22:42,839 --> 00:22:44,232
I know that.
511
00:22:44,275 --> 00:22:45,407
Tell me what happened.
512
00:22:45,451 --> 00:22:46,887
I got nothing to tell.
513
00:22:46,930 --> 00:22:48,410
I'm at my family restaurant,
514
00:22:48,454 --> 00:22:50,151
celebrating my freedom.
515
00:22:50,194 --> 00:22:51,805
In walks the kid.
516
00:22:51,848 --> 00:22:53,415
Hot and bothered,
stirring up trouble.
517
00:22:53,459 --> 00:22:55,112
Just like his old man.
518
00:22:55,156 --> 00:22:57,158
Next thing I know,
bodies are falling.
519
00:22:57,201 --> 00:22:58,594
Who fired the shots?
520
00:22:58,638 --> 00:23:00,466
I don't know;
it was dark, it was crowded,
521
00:23:00,509 --> 00:23:02,076
music was loud.
522
00:23:03,643 --> 00:23:04,861
Why do we have
523
00:23:04,905 --> 00:23:08,125
this picture of you
leaving with the gun?
524
00:23:08,169 --> 00:23:11,128
[exhales]
525
00:23:11,172 --> 00:23:12,478
I wasn't thinking, Frank.
526
00:23:12,521 --> 00:23:14,436
I panicked when I saw
the gun on the floor.
527
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,091
All I could think was
I got to get it out of here.
528
00:23:17,134 --> 00:23:20,355
You got a problem,
or does the problem have you?
529
00:23:21,791 --> 00:23:24,011
You trying to cover
for somebody?
530
00:23:24,054 --> 00:23:25,142
Not at all.
531
00:23:25,186 --> 00:23:26,970
Like, maybe you got used
to life inside,
532
00:23:27,014 --> 00:23:28,189
had it wired pretty good.
533
00:23:28,232 --> 00:23:29,364
You're dead wrong.
534
00:23:29,408 --> 00:23:30,931
I'm not covering for anybody.
535
00:23:30,974 --> 00:23:33,020
Right, and you have no idea
who the shooter was
536
00:23:33,063 --> 00:23:34,848
in your own restaurant,
with your own people around.
537
00:23:34,891 --> 00:23:36,284
Nobody saw nothing.
538
00:23:40,462 --> 00:23:42,638
Where was your boy
when this happened?
539
00:23:42,682 --> 00:23:44,118
In the back.
540
00:23:44,161 --> 00:23:46,555
Who with?I don't know.
541
00:23:46,599 --> 00:23:50,559
[sighs] I gave you the benefit
of the doubt once.
542
00:23:50,603 --> 00:23:52,343
You owe me the truth.
543
00:23:54,389 --> 00:23:57,958
I paid my debt
to the State of New York.
544
00:23:58,001 --> 00:24:00,003
20 years.
545
00:24:00,047 --> 00:24:03,790
I gave it 20 years of my life.
546
00:24:03,833 --> 00:24:06,445
I don't owe anybody
anything else.
547
00:24:06,488 --> 00:24:09,665
Not good enough.
548
00:24:09,709 --> 00:24:10,971
Start over.
549
00:24:13,060 --> 00:24:15,410
SANDI:
That's Harry.
550
00:24:15,454 --> 00:24:17,194
With my late
husband David.
551
00:24:17,238 --> 00:24:19,370
Two of them were
thick as thieves.
552
00:24:19,414 --> 00:24:22,852
Drinking and gambling every
night at the Old Bluff.
553
00:24:22,896 --> 00:24:24,854
Sandi, you said that you weren't
friends with Harry,
554
00:24:24,898 --> 00:24:26,987
but he kept sending you money.
555
00:24:27,030 --> 00:24:27,988
Why?
556
00:24:28,031 --> 00:24:28,945
Oh, I don't know.
557
00:24:28,989 --> 00:24:30,338
Maybe he felt sorry for me
558
00:24:30,381 --> 00:24:32,514
because I had to raise
my grandson on my own.
559
00:24:32,558 --> 00:24:35,125
The child has
special needs.
560
00:24:35,169 --> 00:24:36,692
He's smart.
561
00:24:36,736 --> 00:24:39,521
And he was doing well
in the program Isent him to.
562
00:24:39,565 --> 00:24:41,131
That school
they had him in?
563
00:24:41,175 --> 00:24:43,264
Full of screamers
and head bangers.
564
00:24:43,307 --> 00:24:45,484
How much was Harry sending?
565
00:24:45,527 --> 00:24:47,616
Are you gonna tell the IRS?
566
00:24:47,660 --> 00:24:49,096
No.
567
00:24:49,139 --> 00:24:51,925
Never more than ten grand.
568
00:24:51,968 --> 00:24:53,927
Every few months.
569
00:24:53,970 --> 00:24:56,059
Now the program says
David can't come back
570
00:24:56,103 --> 00:24:58,018
until I pay the next bill.
571
00:24:58,061 --> 00:25:00,107
Sandi, I hate to ask you this,
572
00:25:00,150 --> 00:25:03,066
but that's a lot of money for
a guy that didn't have a job.
573
00:25:04,459 --> 00:25:06,156
Do you know anything about
Harry's involvement
574
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,288
in the Benny Trust heist?
575
00:25:09,333 --> 00:25:10,944
That's where my husband worked.
576
00:25:10,987 --> 00:25:13,947
What did he do there?
577
00:25:13,990 --> 00:25:16,123
He was a guard.
578
00:25:16,166 --> 00:25:19,387
The guard who got killed
in the robbery?
579
00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:23,304
The bank got their money back
from the insurance,
580
00:25:23,347 --> 00:25:25,785
and then went under before
they paid our benefits
581
00:25:25,828 --> 00:25:27,351
like they promised.
582
00:25:27,395 --> 00:25:29,745
Harry was the only one
looking out for us.
583
00:25:29,789 --> 00:25:32,008
Did you ever ask
where he got the cash?
584
00:25:32,052 --> 00:25:33,270
No.
585
00:25:33,314 --> 00:25:35,708
But I knew something
was eating him inside.
586
00:25:35,751 --> 00:25:37,405
And they always said
587
00:25:37,448 --> 00:25:39,755
the robbers must have
had an inside tip.
588
00:25:39,799 --> 00:25:41,757
You think Harry was the conduit,
589
00:25:41,801 --> 00:25:43,716
because he was drinking buddies
with your husband?
590
00:25:43,759 --> 00:25:45,544
He sure acted guilty around me.
591
00:25:45,587 --> 00:25:47,154
You think he got
a cut afterward?
592
00:25:47,197 --> 00:25:49,199
I don't know.
593
00:25:49,243 --> 00:25:50,984
I needed the money.
594
00:25:51,027 --> 00:25:52,725
For my grandson.
595
00:25:54,117 --> 00:25:56,729
I guess you got
a judgment about that, huh?
596
00:25:56,772 --> 00:25:59,819
I don't know what to think.
597
00:25:59,862 --> 00:26:02,952
So what happens now?
598
00:26:07,043 --> 00:26:08,001
Hey, Reagan.
599
00:26:08,044 --> 00:26:10,307
What the hell
do you want?
600
00:26:10,351 --> 00:26:12,614
I heard you had
my father here.
601
00:26:12,658 --> 00:26:14,616
Yeah. Well, unless you got
something new to offer
602
00:26:14,660 --> 00:26:16,009
that you held
back on before,
603
00:26:16,052 --> 00:26:18,054
there's nothing you can
do to help him now.
604
00:26:18,098 --> 00:26:19,099
Wait.
605
00:26:20,883 --> 00:26:23,190
I think you're gonna
want to hear this.
606
00:26:23,233 --> 00:26:26,454
Okay.
607
00:26:26,497 --> 00:26:28,064
Come on.
608
00:26:38,292 --> 00:26:40,468
[metallic click]
609
00:26:40,511 --> 00:26:41,512
Whew.
610
00:26:45,908 --> 00:26:48,694
We're good to go?
611
00:26:48,737 --> 00:26:50,086
GPS is working.
612
00:26:50,130 --> 00:26:52,132
We good with the warrant?Just in time.
613
00:26:52,175 --> 00:26:53,612
Judge says,
"Kathy's her own worst enemy."
614
00:26:53,655 --> 00:26:55,570
If she wasn't pushing this--
615
00:26:55,614 --> 00:26:57,572
a live video interview
to drive up ratings--
616
00:26:57,616 --> 00:27:01,228
we wouldn't have probable cause
she was meeting with Jeffrey.
617
00:27:02,708 --> 00:27:04,579
There she is.
618
00:27:08,322 --> 00:27:10,193
Can't believe
she's doing this.
619
00:27:10,237 --> 00:27:13,283
She was one of the best trial
lawyers I ever worked with.
620
00:27:13,327 --> 00:27:16,373
One thing about Kathy,
she was always more about
621
00:27:16,417 --> 00:27:18,288
the attention
than the case.
622
00:27:19,725 --> 00:27:21,422
Let's go.
623
00:27:21,465 --> 00:27:23,163
Please, don't complain
about the driving today.
624
00:27:23,206 --> 00:27:24,207
[engine starts]
625
00:27:27,254 --> 00:27:29,256
No promises.
626
00:27:31,519 --> 00:27:34,435
My father's
the strongest man I know.
627
00:27:34,478 --> 00:27:36,393
I could never be like him.
628
00:27:36,437 --> 00:27:37,481
Okay.
629
00:27:37,525 --> 00:27:39,179
He did 20 years in state prison,
630
00:27:39,222 --> 00:27:40,484
and he never complained
about the food.
631
00:27:40,528 --> 00:27:42,312
After being in
the restaurant business.
632
00:27:44,140 --> 00:27:46,665
No, he...
633
00:27:46,708 --> 00:27:49,189
he deserves to have
his life back.
634
00:27:49,232 --> 00:27:50,538
He only just met
his granddaughter.
635
00:27:50,581 --> 00:27:54,063
I'm sure this is all
going someplace.
636
00:27:54,107 --> 00:27:56,196
When Alex Kalamogdartis
637
00:27:56,239 --> 00:27:58,241
came in the other night
and started threatening him,
638
00:27:58,285 --> 00:27:59,721
I couldn't take it.
639
00:27:59,765 --> 00:28:01,897
So you're saying you were
there during the argument.
640
00:28:01,941 --> 00:28:03,116
Yes, yes.
641
00:28:03,159 --> 00:28:04,378
I'm sorry that I lied before.
642
00:28:04,421 --> 00:28:06,206
Like I said,
I'm not as strong as Papa.
643
00:28:06,249 --> 00:28:08,382
Okay, we've moved past that.
644
00:28:08,425 --> 00:28:11,428
So you heard Alex threaten
your dad, then what did you do?
645
00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:15,476
I went, I went and I got
my cousin's gun
646
00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:16,738
from under the cash register.
647
00:28:16,782 --> 00:28:18,392
And then what?
648
00:28:18,435 --> 00:28:21,177
And then I just
started shooting.
649
00:28:23,223 --> 00:28:27,488
And shooting and shooting
and shooting and shooting!
650
00:28:28,576 --> 00:28:30,273
After it was done,
651
00:28:30,317 --> 00:28:33,146
Papa took the gun and told me
to keep my mouth shut.
652
00:28:34,190 --> 00:28:36,149
Okay.
I did it.
653
00:28:36,192 --> 00:28:37,541
Yeah.
654
00:28:37,585 --> 00:28:40,196
I'm gonna need you to
write that all down, okay?
655
00:28:45,245 --> 00:28:47,160
My father's still got
656
00:28:47,203 --> 00:28:49,205
a few good years left.
657
00:28:49,249 --> 00:28:52,992
I can't let him go back to
prison for something that I did.
658
00:29:00,086 --> 00:29:02,392
You want a lawyer?
659
00:29:02,436 --> 00:29:04,220
Now? Seriously?
660
00:29:04,264 --> 00:29:06,048
Yeah. It's my right.
I didn't shoot the kid.
661
00:29:06,092 --> 00:29:07,789
You got no right
to keep me here.
662
00:29:07,833 --> 00:29:08,834
You asked for me.
663
00:29:08,877 --> 00:29:10,749
And now you want a lawyer?
664
00:29:13,447 --> 00:29:15,710
It's done.
665
00:29:15,754 --> 00:29:16,885
He confessed.
666
00:29:31,508 --> 00:29:33,249
[sighs]
667
00:29:33,293 --> 00:29:34,555
Full statement?
668
00:29:34,598 --> 00:29:37,123
Signed, sealed and delivered.
669
00:29:37,166 --> 00:29:38,602
Good work.
670
00:29:38,646 --> 00:29:39,603
Stavros...
[speaks Greek]
671
00:29:39,647 --> 00:29:40,691
In English.
672
00:29:40,735 --> 00:29:42,998
Papa, I'm sorry.Don't do this.
673
00:29:43,042 --> 00:29:45,087
STAVROS: I already did.NICK: No, you didn't.
674
00:29:45,131 --> 00:29:46,610
I shot him, Papa.
675
00:29:46,654 --> 00:29:47,916
He didn't give
me a choice.
676
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,875
Take him down
to Central Booking.
677
00:29:49,918 --> 00:29:51,137
Yes, sir. Come on.Wait a minute.
678
00:29:51,180 --> 00:29:52,442
Wait a minute!
Wait a minute!
679
00:29:59,885 --> 00:30:01,887
[sighs]
680
00:30:05,978 --> 00:30:09,720
I don't think you're gonna
let him do this, Nick.
681
00:30:09,764 --> 00:30:14,029
You're not a perfect man,
but you love your family
682
00:30:14,073 --> 00:30:16,031
and you love your son.
683
00:30:22,211 --> 00:30:25,084
It's how
it had to be, Frank.
684
00:30:25,127 --> 00:30:29,697
Otherwise, those people
were never gonna let us be.
685
00:30:29,740 --> 00:30:31,873
Ready to make
a statement?
686
00:30:31,917 --> 00:30:34,833
Yes, I am.
687
00:30:39,359 --> 00:30:42,101
We got the cuffs
on the wrong man.
688
00:30:53,068 --> 00:30:55,157
♪
689
00:31:12,566 --> 00:31:14,350
Nice ride.
Smart.
690
00:31:14,394 --> 00:31:17,179
Jeffrey knew
we'd be looking for him
691
00:31:17,223 --> 00:31:19,703
at the airfields, so he's
all set to get away by land.
692
00:31:19,747 --> 00:31:22,793
Well, I guess looking back,
I could've seen the signs.
693
00:31:22,837 --> 00:31:25,361
Beth was always
a little flighty.
694
00:31:25,405 --> 00:31:27,494
That was part of the energy
that drew me to her.
695
00:31:27,537 --> 00:31:28,712
She started
disappearing for
696
00:31:28,756 --> 00:31:30,540
longer and longer
periods of time.
697
00:31:30,584 --> 00:31:32,586
And then one night,
she just didn't come back.
698
00:31:32,629 --> 00:31:33,761
[door opens]
699
00:31:34,631 --> 00:31:36,416
You two, sit down.
700
00:31:37,634 --> 00:31:39,027
And shut that off.
701
00:31:39,985 --> 00:31:42,335
On your feet, Doc.
Come on.
702
00:31:42,378 --> 00:31:45,207
Come on!
703
00:31:45,251 --> 00:31:47,209
Looks like this interview
is over, Kathy.
704
00:31:47,253 --> 00:31:49,298
Jeffrey Durning, we have
a warrant for your arrest.
705
00:31:50,517 --> 00:31:51,822
Wait, this is all wrong.
706
00:31:51,866 --> 00:31:54,260
We also have a warrant
for yourarrest.
707
00:31:54,303 --> 00:31:55,652
For what?
708
00:31:55,696 --> 00:31:56,740
Hindering prosecution.
709
00:31:56,784 --> 00:31:58,525
You lied to us
about where he was,
710
00:31:58,568 --> 00:32:00,179
and you're assisting a fugitive.
711
00:32:00,222 --> 00:32:01,484
Wait.
712
00:32:01,528 --> 00:32:03,356
There's something
you need to see
713
00:32:03,399 --> 00:32:05,184
that changes this whole case.
714
00:32:05,227 --> 00:32:06,446
Oh, really?
715
00:32:08,448 --> 00:32:09,492
This...
716
00:32:09,536 --> 00:32:11,494
was taken in Caracas
717
00:32:11,538 --> 00:32:13,409
two days ago
by a friend of Beth's.
718
00:32:14,628 --> 00:32:16,630
She's still alive.
719
00:32:23,593 --> 00:32:24,855
[groans]
Hey.
720
00:32:24,899 --> 00:32:27,293
Hey. Put the brisket
in the fridge.
721
00:32:27,336 --> 00:32:29,469
I got us a bottle of wine;
we're in business.
722
00:32:29,512 --> 00:32:30,600
Grandpa,
723
00:32:30,644 --> 00:32:32,951
do you remember
the Benny Trust heist?
724
00:32:32,994 --> 00:32:34,517
Oh, sure I do.
725
00:32:34,561 --> 00:32:35,997
Happened when I was PC.
726
00:32:36,041 --> 00:32:37,999
We always heard that
it was an inside job,
727
00:32:38,043 --> 00:32:39,522
but we could
never prove it.
728
00:32:39,566 --> 00:32:41,742
Most of the thieves
killed each other
729
00:32:41,785 --> 00:32:43,874
before they could
spend the money. Why?
730
00:32:43,918 --> 00:32:45,964
Just a hypothetical,
but what if I told you
731
00:32:46,007 --> 00:32:48,444
that I found
some of the money?
732
00:32:48,488 --> 00:32:49,924
I'd say forget
the brisket,
733
00:32:49,968 --> 00:32:52,753
you're taking us to Peter
Luger's for family dinner.
734
00:32:52,796 --> 00:32:54,102
[chuckles]
735
00:32:56,104 --> 00:32:58,933
Seriously, it's a closed case,
isn't it?
736
00:32:58,977 --> 00:33:03,024
No, the term is "not an
active investigation."
737
00:33:03,068 --> 00:33:04,504
Big difference.
738
00:33:06,767 --> 00:33:08,725
Let's just say
a couple of partners
739
00:33:08,769 --> 00:33:11,554
stumble on a bundle of cash
in a dead man's apartment.
740
00:33:11,598 --> 00:33:14,296
Well, if they take
it for themselves,
741
00:33:14,340 --> 00:33:18,518
they're out of a job and
maybe on their way to prison.
742
00:33:18,561 --> 00:33:21,434
Let's just say though that
they've made all the right calls
743
00:33:21,477 --> 00:33:23,218
and turns out
nobody's looking for that money,
744
00:33:23,262 --> 00:33:25,568
but it's clear
that the dead guy
745
00:33:25,612 --> 00:33:28,267
wanted to leave it to somebody
who really needed it.
746
00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:30,356
He died without
leaving a will?
747
00:33:30,399 --> 00:33:31,966
Yeah.
748
00:33:32,010 --> 00:33:34,273
Well, then it goes to
the public administrator.
749
00:33:34,316 --> 00:33:36,797
What if they just
don't find all of it?
750
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,410
Well, then these partners
have an interesting dilemma.
751
00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:47,329
A few years before the heist,
752
00:33:47,373 --> 00:33:49,766
I was up in the Bronx
for the Big Blackout.
753
00:33:51,551 --> 00:33:53,292
The looting was insane.
754
00:33:53,335 --> 00:33:56,077
We were locking up people
left, right and center.
755
00:33:56,121 --> 00:33:59,733
Someone had broken
the front window
756
00:33:59,776 --> 00:34:03,867
of a store that charged
the most ridiculous prices.
757
00:34:03,911 --> 00:34:08,133
I saw a lady my age,
with three little kids,
758
00:34:08,176 --> 00:34:10,700
carrying out a bag
full of diapers and groceries.
759
00:34:12,441 --> 00:34:15,531
I looked her
straight in the eye...
760
00:34:15,575 --> 00:34:17,142
and I let her go.
761
00:34:17,185 --> 00:34:20,493
I made a
judgment call.
762
00:34:20,536 --> 00:34:24,279
Every good cop's
got to be able to make one.
763
00:34:24,323 --> 00:34:27,326
Not that we're talking about
anything real here.
764
00:34:36,204 --> 00:34:37,597
[video game beeping quietly]
765
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:38,946
You sure this is okay?
766
00:34:38,989 --> 00:34:41,253
The public administrators
are already done.
767
00:34:41,296 --> 00:34:42,906
You're the closest thing
to a family friend.
768
00:34:42,950 --> 00:34:44,908
We're just giving you
a chance to pick out
769
00:34:44,952 --> 00:34:47,128
some clothes for Harry,
for the funeral.
770
00:34:47,172 --> 00:34:50,349
No one else is coming?
771
00:34:50,392 --> 00:34:52,394
He had no will,
no heirs.
772
00:34:52,438 --> 00:34:54,614
Just the letter to you.
773
00:34:54,657 --> 00:34:55,963
So, we'll give
you an hour.
774
00:34:56,006 --> 00:34:57,791
Whatever you leave behind
goes to the landlady
775
00:34:57,834 --> 00:35:00,185
or the-the
clean-out company.
776
00:35:01,229 --> 00:35:02,883
Just...
777
00:35:02,926 --> 00:35:06,234
make sure you look everywhere--
the cupboards, the closets...
778
00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:10,325
...under the bed.
779
00:35:23,730 --> 00:35:25,471
I'm still not
sure about this.
780
00:35:25,514 --> 00:35:27,037
Public administrators
got most of the cash
781
00:35:27,081 --> 00:35:28,343
that was just lying around.
782
00:35:28,387 --> 00:35:29,344
We both know there's more.
783
00:35:29,388 --> 00:35:31,564
And no one's looking for it.
784
00:35:31,607 --> 00:35:33,348
Sandi needs that money
to keep her grandson
785
00:35:33,392 --> 00:35:34,567
in that special school.
786
00:35:34,610 --> 00:35:37,570
Just doesn't feel right.
787
00:35:37,613 --> 00:35:39,920
What if someone starts
asking questions later?
788
00:35:39,963 --> 00:35:44,142
Guess you'll have to decide
if you're gonna rat me out.
789
00:35:50,931 --> 00:35:55,153
I can't believe you had me
arrested on felony charges.
790
00:35:55,196 --> 00:35:56,763
Well, you knew
where Jeffrey Durning was
791
00:35:56,806 --> 00:35:59,418
and you chose to mislead us
and protect him.
792
00:35:59,461 --> 00:36:01,420
The flaw in
your argument
793
00:36:01,463 --> 00:36:03,030
is that there is
no underlying crime.
794
00:36:03,073 --> 00:36:04,553
Really?
795
00:36:04,597 --> 00:36:06,338
I've given you proof.
796
00:36:06,381 --> 00:36:08,862
You mean that picture
from Venezuela?
797
00:36:08,905 --> 00:36:11,560
It kind of blows the whole case
out of the water, Anthony,
798
00:36:11,604 --> 00:36:13,214
doesn't it?One little problem.
799
00:36:13,258 --> 00:36:15,825
I just got off the phone
with the guy in the photo.
800
00:36:15,869 --> 00:36:17,827
He's five-foot-six.
801
00:36:17,871 --> 00:36:19,612
Beth was five-foot-ten.
802
00:36:19,655 --> 00:36:22,658
And in the photo,
she's looking up at him.
803
00:36:24,269 --> 00:36:26,271
How's a woman
who's four inches taller
804
00:36:26,314 --> 00:36:27,968
appearing shorter?
805
00:36:32,102 --> 00:36:33,626
Obviously, it
would be tough.
806
00:36:33,669 --> 00:36:35,584
I'd say.
807
00:36:35,628 --> 00:36:36,846
Doesn't mean I'm wrong
about everything.
808
00:36:36,890 --> 00:36:38,674
You're just trying
to neutralize me
809
00:36:38,718 --> 00:36:40,459
because you're afraid
the former prosecutor
810
00:36:40,502 --> 00:36:42,548
is gonna make Jeffrey's defense
a slam dunk.
811
00:36:42,591 --> 00:36:45,246
What about all the witnesses
Jeffrey intimidated?
812
00:36:45,290 --> 00:36:47,248
Their stories didn't hold up.
813
00:36:47,292 --> 00:36:49,816
Then why did Jeffrey go to
Mindy's apartment the other day
814
00:36:49,859 --> 00:36:50,904
and threaten her?
815
00:36:54,995 --> 00:36:57,519
He's worried the truth
will come out.
816
00:36:59,565 --> 00:37:01,741
I had no idea he'd done this.
817
00:37:01,784 --> 00:37:05,179
You let your ego get ahead
of the facts in this case,
818
00:37:05,223 --> 00:37:08,008
and you've been poisoning
the jury pool with your podcast.
819
00:37:08,051 --> 00:37:10,402
I thought I had a subject
who was innocent.
820
00:37:10,445 --> 00:37:11,794
Is it safe to say
821
00:37:11,838 --> 00:37:13,709
that you could've
handled things differently?
822
00:37:16,756 --> 00:37:19,672
I'll give you what I have
on Jeffrey from my files.
823
00:37:27,984 --> 00:37:30,073
Bless us, oh Lord,
in these thy gifts,
824
00:37:30,117 --> 00:37:32,206
which we are about to
receive from thy bounty
825
00:37:32,250 --> 00:37:34,034
through Christ our Lord. Amen.
826
00:37:34,077 --> 00:37:35,427
ALL:
Amen.
827
00:37:35,470 --> 00:37:37,037
Ah, the prodigal son.
828
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,865
Better late than never.
829
00:37:38,908 --> 00:37:40,127
What took you?
830
00:37:40,170 --> 00:37:41,607
I texted Erin I was
running a little behind.
831
00:37:41,650 --> 00:37:42,608
He did.
832
00:37:42,651 --> 00:37:44,523
Where were you?
833
00:37:44,566 --> 00:37:45,741
Uh, funeral.
834
00:37:45,785 --> 00:37:47,134
Whose?
835
00:37:47,177 --> 00:37:48,309
Just a guy.
836
00:37:48,353 --> 00:37:50,093
You know him well?
837
00:37:50,137 --> 00:37:51,225
Uh, no.
838
00:37:51,269 --> 00:37:52,922
Actually didn't know him at all.
839
00:37:52,966 --> 00:37:54,272
Turns out, nobody really did.
840
00:37:54,315 --> 00:37:55,925
What's that mean?
841
00:37:55,969 --> 00:37:57,492
Means he barely
came out of his house
842
00:37:57,536 --> 00:37:59,929
or spoke to anyone for 25 years,
and passed away
843
00:37:59,973 --> 00:38:01,540
without anyone really wondering
where he went.
844
00:38:01,583 --> 00:38:03,324
That may be one of the saddest
things I've ever heard.
845
00:38:03,368 --> 00:38:04,717
How deep did you dig?
846
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,240
Didn't really dig, actually.
847
00:38:06,284 --> 00:38:08,895
Just a few days sitting with
his stuff and waiting for
848
00:38:08,938 --> 00:38:10,723
the public
administrators to show.
849
00:38:10,766 --> 00:38:13,116
Did he have something to hide,
something he was hiding from?
850
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,509
No record.
851
00:38:14,553 --> 00:38:16,816
At least not under
any of the names that we had.
852
00:38:16,859 --> 00:38:18,818
Well, maybe he never got caught;
couldn't forgive himself.
853
00:38:18,861 --> 00:38:20,428
LINDA:
Any more of this,
854
00:38:20,472 --> 00:38:22,778
and I'm gonna have to go
back to church
855
00:38:22,822 --> 00:38:24,563
and pray for his poor soul.Right?
856
00:38:24,606 --> 00:38:25,999
So you actually
went to the funeral
857
00:38:26,042 --> 00:38:27,305
for someone you never met?
858
00:38:28,393 --> 00:38:29,742
Yeah.
859
00:38:29,785 --> 00:38:31,961
Ever done that before?
860
00:38:32,005 --> 00:38:33,833
Nope. Just felt like I should.
861
00:38:33,876 --> 00:38:34,877
That's it?
862
00:38:38,490 --> 00:38:41,014
Yeah, kind of hard to explain.
863
00:38:41,057 --> 00:38:43,016
At least for me it is.
864
00:38:45,148 --> 00:38:47,412
Wow, you give this family
half an opportunity,
865
00:38:47,455 --> 00:38:49,979
and the questions
just don't stop.
866
00:38:50,023 --> 00:38:51,546
Sorry I
brought it up.
867
00:38:52,591 --> 00:38:55,768
Nicky, boys,
868
00:38:55,811 --> 00:38:58,510
you hear a lot of harsh stories
at this table.
869
00:38:58,553 --> 00:38:59,946
I don't think
they're harsh.
870
00:38:59,989 --> 00:39:01,339
Cool, maybe.
871
00:39:01,382 --> 00:39:02,731
Okay, ear of the beholder.
872
00:39:02,775 --> 00:39:05,604
But if there's one thing
you need to take away
873
00:39:05,647 --> 00:39:08,215
from this table, I hope
it's that you don't have to be
874
00:39:08,258 --> 00:39:10,870
Jamie's age, or
Danny's or Erin's
875
00:39:10,913 --> 00:39:12,915
or mine or Pop's
for that matter,
876
00:39:12,959 --> 00:39:16,354
to learn to show some grace
where it's needed.
877
00:39:16,397 --> 00:39:19,400
To save some grace
for strangers even,
878
00:39:19,444 --> 00:39:22,838
who find themselves
without family or friends.
879
00:39:22,882 --> 00:39:26,364
Or whatever reason
got them there.
880
00:39:27,452 --> 00:39:29,279
Will do.
Me, too.
881
00:39:29,323 --> 00:39:30,846
I'll try.
882
00:39:32,021 --> 00:39:35,808
I'd like to think
the reward is in the attempt.
883
00:39:35,851 --> 00:39:37,462
Well, the good news is,
884
00:39:37,505 --> 00:39:39,942
none of us is ever
gonna end up alone.
885
00:39:41,379 --> 00:39:44,860
Not while another one
of us is still standing.
886
00:39:46,514 --> 00:39:48,081
And again, amen.
887
00:39:55,088 --> 00:39:56,698
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