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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:31,865 --> 00:00:35,076 Well, now, as we come towards the end of this evening on BBC 1 , 2 00:00:35,118 --> 00:00:38,329 Michael Fish takes a late look at the weather. 3 00:00:38,371 --> 00:00:39,748 Again, a good deal of cloud. 4 00:00:39,789 --> 00:00:42,334 A little rain from time to time for much of the day, 5 00:00:42,375 --> 00:00:45,754 but later on that rain is going to become ever more persistent 6 00:00:45,795 --> 00:00:47,339 and eventually, I think that rain 7 00:00:47,380 --> 00:00:49,758 will probably turn out to be fairly heavy. 8 00:00:52,677 --> 00:00:56,264 What you've seen in any documentary about any band, 9 00:00:56,306 --> 00:01:00,477 before or since, is how great and wonderful everything is. 10 00:01:00,518 --> 00:01:04,731 It's not the truth of it. It's hell, it's hard. 11 00:01:04,773 --> 00:01:09,736 It's horrible. It's enjoyable to a small degree 12 00:01:09,778 --> 00:01:12,280 but if you know what you're doing it for, 13 00:01:12,322 --> 00:01:14,074 you'll tolerate all that 14 00:01:14,115 --> 00:01:17,952 because the work, at the end of the day, is what matters. 15 00:01:17,952 --> 00:01:20,080 We managed to offend 16 00:01:20,121 --> 00:01:23,667 all the people we were fucking fed up with. 17 00:01:46,314 --> 00:01:50,610 The Labour Party, who'd promised so much after the war 18 00:01:50,652 --> 00:01:55,281 had done so little for the working class 19 00:01:55,323 --> 00:02:00,495 that the working class were confused about even themselves 20 00:02:00,537 --> 00:02:05,250 and didn't even understand what working class meant anymore. 21 00:02:05,291 --> 00:02:07,335 It was cold and miserable. 22 00:02:07,377 --> 00:02:10,088 No one had anyjobs. You couldn't get ajob. 23 00:02:10,130 --> 00:02:12,173 Everyone was on the dole. 24 00:02:13,216 --> 00:02:15,552 If you weren't born into money, 25 00:02:15,593 --> 00:02:18,013 then you might as well have kissed your fucking life goodbye, 26 00:02:18,054 --> 00:02:20,265 you weren't gonna amount to anything. 27 00:02:20,306 --> 00:02:22,892 The germ, the seed of the Sex Pistols 28 00:02:22,934 --> 00:02:25,687 generated from that. 29 00:02:31,526 --> 00:02:34,487 Now is the winter of our discontent 30 00:02:34,529 --> 00:02:40,076 made glorious summer -- by this sun of York. 31 00:02:47,167 --> 00:02:50,587 England was in a state of social upheaval. 32 00:02:50,628 --> 00:02:54,466 It was a very, very different time. 33 00:02:54,507 --> 00:02:56,885 Total social chaos. 34 00:02:56,885 --> 00:02:59,721 There was rioting all over the place. 35 00:02:59,763 --> 00:03:01,723 You have to join the picket line. 36 00:03:01,765 --> 00:03:04,726 There were strikes on every kind of amenity you could think of. 37 00:03:04,768 --> 00:03:06,853 Pound power. 38 00:03:06,895 --> 00:03:10,315 The TV channels would go on and off randomly. 39 00:03:11,649 --> 00:03:15,570 People were fed up with the old way. 40 00:03:15,612 --> 00:03:18,698 The old way was clearly not working. 41 00:03:21,409 --> 00:03:23,286 There's a little bit sticking up there. 42 00:03:23,328 --> 00:03:25,705 You can see it in the reflection. 43 00:03:25,747 --> 00:03:28,375 Ultra Bright gets you noticed. 44 00:03:32,003 --> 00:03:34,714 You're told at school, you're told at the job center, 45 00:03:34,756 --> 00:03:38,593 you're told by everyone that you don't stand a chance. 46 00:03:40,220 --> 00:03:44,140 And you should just accept your lot, and get on with it. 47 00:03:45,225 --> 00:03:47,686 That's where you're gonna get the social strife. 48 00:03:47,727 --> 00:03:50,647 Hate and war... and race hate. 49 00:03:59,406 --> 00:04:01,783 When you feel powerless... 50 00:04:01,825 --> 00:04:05,161 you will grab any power you can... 51 00:04:05,203 --> 00:04:08,581 to retain some kind of self-respect. 52 00:04:10,625 --> 00:04:12,919 Want something on how many people have been mugged? 53 00:04:12,961 --> 00:04:16,172 Don't lay your hand on me... I'll break your fucking jaw! 54 00:04:16,214 --> 00:04:19,759 That man is sad 'cause he's misinformed, 55 00:04:19,801 --> 00:04:22,345 and he's misled, and he's used. 56 00:04:22,387 --> 00:04:25,306 Yes -- I am a racialist. And why? 57 00:04:25,306 --> 00:04:27,350 Who's made me a racialist? 58 00:04:27,392 --> 00:04:30,270 This government -- the conservatives, 59 00:04:30,311 --> 00:04:33,648 and every stingy, stinking councillor 60 00:04:33,648 --> 00:04:36,276 who sticks up for the nigger. 61 00:04:36,317 --> 00:04:38,820 And I'll stand by my words, 62 00:04:38,862 --> 00:04:42,198 'cause I don't like these people, never will do! 63 00:04:44,034 --> 00:04:45,785 Words are my weapons. 64 00:04:45,827 --> 00:04:49,122 Violence is something I'm not very good at. 65 00:04:49,164 --> 00:04:52,125 I don't think you can explain how things happen, 66 00:04:52,167 --> 00:04:54,502 other than sometimes theyjust should, 67 00:04:54,544 --> 00:04:58,131 and the Sex Pistols should have happened, and did. 68 00:04:58,173 --> 00:05:00,467 We went out in the garden. 69 00:05:00,508 --> 00:05:02,344 Get off your arse! 70 00:05:17,859 --> 00:05:20,236 I was born in Queen Charlotte's Hospital 71 00:05:20,278 --> 00:05:23,239 on September 3rd, 1955... 72 00:05:23,281 --> 00:05:26,326 And I lived with my mother and my stepfather 73 00:05:26,368 --> 00:05:28,870 who I thought was my dad, in the basement 74 00:05:28,912 --> 00:05:30,372 in Shepherd's Bush. 75 00:05:30,413 --> 00:05:33,124 And I slept at the edge of their bed on a camp bed. 76 00:05:33,166 --> 00:05:36,336 My real dad, he bailed when I was two. 77 00:05:36,378 --> 00:05:40,590 His name was Don Jarvis. He was an amateur boxer. 78 00:05:40,632 --> 00:05:45,095 I definitely didn't feel wanted as a child. 79 00:05:46,554 --> 00:05:50,058 Well, I was born and raised around West London, 80 00:05:50,100 --> 00:05:52,686 the Shepherd's Bush and Hammersmith area. 81 00:05:52,727 --> 00:05:55,313 It was typically working class. 82 00:05:55,355 --> 00:05:59,609 I met Steve 'cause we lived around the corner from each other. 83 00:06:00,652 --> 00:06:03,071 I went to school near Paul and Steve, 84 00:06:03,113 --> 00:06:04,864 next to Wormwood Scrubs Prison. 85 00:06:04,906 --> 00:06:06,950 Me dad was a factory worker, 86 00:06:06,991 --> 00:06:09,911 and mum worked at a powder puff factory. 87 00:06:09,911 --> 00:06:12,872 If you were to look back at me as a school kid, 88 00:06:12,914 --> 00:06:15,542 you'd see a very shy, quiet, 89 00:06:15,583 --> 00:06:20,046 Iittle church mouse kind of character in North London. 90 00:06:21,548 --> 00:06:23,633 Irish immigrant parents. 91 00:06:23,675 --> 00:06:26,177 My mum taught me to read and write 92 00:06:26,219 --> 00:06:29,889 after meningitis, a serious illness I had at seven, 93 00:06:29,931 --> 00:06:32,559 when I was in a coma for a year. 94 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,646 When I came out of hospital, I was completely brain wiped... 95 00:06:36,688 --> 00:06:40,525 Old memories had been erased... Didn't remember anything at all. 96 00:06:40,567 --> 00:06:42,485 Just backwards in everything. 97 00:06:42,527 --> 00:06:44,738 It was like having to start all over again. 98 00:06:45,947 --> 00:06:47,407 # Pictures of Lily... # 99 00:06:47,449 --> 00:06:51,703 How does it get from the man to the egg? 100 00:06:51,745 --> 00:06:55,457 I actually got put back a year 'cause I was so stupid. 101 00:06:55,498 --> 00:06:58,335 And I would never pay any attention in class, 102 00:06:58,376 --> 00:07:00,253 I was just always daydreaming. 103 00:07:00,295 --> 00:07:02,756 Steve was quite wild at 1 0, 1 1 years old. 104 00:07:02,797 --> 00:07:05,508 I think he was always getting into trouble then. 105 00:07:05,550 --> 00:07:09,095 You should make sure that you've got the thing around the right way. 106 00:07:09,137 --> 00:07:13,183 On the other hand -- I got four fingers and a thumb. 107 00:07:13,224 --> 00:07:16,227 I question everything, I always have done. 108 00:07:16,269 --> 00:07:18,063 If we were doing Shakespeare, 109 00:07:18,104 --> 00:07:20,273 a teacher would give me a hard time, 110 00:07:20,315 --> 00:07:22,359 and he wouldn't tell me what I wanted to know. 111 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,569 I'd ask outright questions, 112 00:07:24,611 --> 00:07:26,488 and you're not supposed to do that. 113 00:07:26,488 --> 00:07:28,448 You're just supposed to accept, 114 00:07:28,490 --> 00:07:30,825 "lt's Shakespeare. It's great, you're not." 115 00:07:30,867 --> 00:07:32,327 That's not good enough for me. 116 00:07:34,537 --> 00:07:37,499 I would steal. I mean, that's all I knew how to do. 117 00:07:37,499 --> 00:07:41,544 I used to watch my parents steal at Tescos when I was six. 118 00:07:41,586 --> 00:07:43,588 And I was always getting in trouble. 119 00:07:43,630 --> 00:07:45,924 And so that's all there was -- music. 120 00:07:45,965 --> 00:07:49,344 # Flavors of the mountain streamline... # 121 00:07:49,386 --> 00:07:53,139 I was totally into music -- Roxy Music and Bowie. 122 00:07:53,181 --> 00:07:56,393 I thought that musicians fell from the sky at that point. 123 00:07:56,434 --> 00:07:58,645 I didn't think anyone could be a musician. 124 00:07:58,687 --> 00:08:03,566 # School's out forever! # 125 00:08:03,608 --> 00:08:07,987 I was very quiet at school up until about 14 or 1 5, 126 00:08:08,029 --> 00:08:10,156 when I decided I'd had enough. 127 00:08:10,198 --> 00:08:13,368 I knew we were being fobbed off... 128 00:08:13,410 --> 00:08:17,580 and basically given a shoddy third-rate version of reality. 129 00:08:17,622 --> 00:08:20,625 So you would not be capable of questioning your future, 130 00:08:20,667 --> 00:08:22,544 because you didn't have one. 131 00:08:28,591 --> 00:08:32,053 My mother loved Alice Cooper as much as I did. 132 00:08:32,053 --> 00:08:35,557 She had an extremely varied taste for everything 133 00:08:35,598 --> 00:08:38,935 from lrish folk music to T. Rex... 134 00:08:38,977 --> 00:08:41,187 To some early Bowie. 135 00:08:41,229 --> 00:08:44,024 Lots of the heavy metal that was around at the time, 136 00:08:44,065 --> 00:08:47,736 everything. Extremely Catholic taste. 137 00:08:47,777 --> 00:08:51,740 # I want all you skinheads to get up on your feet # 138 00:08:51,781 --> 00:08:55,243 # Put your braces together and your boots on your feet # 139 00:08:55,285 --> 00:08:58,455 There was a lot of black kids down Shepherd's Bush, 140 00:08:58,496 --> 00:09:00,540 and we used to go to their parties 141 00:09:00,582 --> 00:09:02,542 and listen to ska music. 142 00:09:02,584 --> 00:09:04,461 It sort of developed from there really, 143 00:09:04,502 --> 00:09:06,796 I think, our interest in music. 144 00:09:06,838 --> 00:09:09,674 I think it was Wally... the famous Wally Nightingale, 145 00:09:09,716 --> 00:09:11,885 who said, "Well, let's start a band." 146 00:09:11,926 --> 00:09:14,721 At the time, Wally said Steve would be the singer, 147 00:09:14,763 --> 00:09:17,223 and I would be on drums. 148 00:09:17,265 --> 00:09:20,560 Wally actually played guitar, and so it was up to each of us 149 00:09:20,602 --> 00:09:22,896 to go off and learn our instruments. 150 00:09:22,937 --> 00:09:25,065 We used to rehearse and rehearse, 151 00:09:25,106 --> 00:09:28,068 and just kind of like, fantasize, really. 152 00:09:28,777 --> 00:09:30,236 If I wanted to wear something 153 00:09:30,278 --> 00:09:32,197 that T. Rex was wearing the week before, 154 00:09:32,238 --> 00:09:34,199 I'd go down King's Road and fucking steal it. 155 00:09:35,575 --> 00:09:38,787 I always used to end up at "Let It Rock" which was owned 156 00:09:38,828 --> 00:09:41,748 by Malcolm McLaren and Vivienne Westwood. 157 00:09:41,790 --> 00:09:43,958 All the other shops we went in down King's Road, 158 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,294 you'd walk in and you'd get 1 0 poofs on you, 159 00:09:46,336 --> 00:09:48,213 asking you what you want, "Can I help you?" 160 00:09:48,254 --> 00:09:50,465 That's why we'd always end up at Vivienne's, 161 00:09:50,507 --> 00:09:52,258 because it was like a hang-out. 162 00:09:52,300 --> 00:09:54,219 I liked the clothes, they were different. 163 00:09:54,260 --> 00:09:57,055 It weren't all flares and kipper ties. 164 00:09:57,097 --> 00:09:59,766 It was Teddy Boy clothes. It was a lot more rebellious, 165 00:09:59,808 --> 00:10:02,602 and obviously I was drawn to that. 166 00:10:02,644 --> 00:10:04,604 The Teddy Boy thing, for me, 167 00:10:04,646 --> 00:10:07,065 was all about the idea of being a peacock, 168 00:10:07,107 --> 00:10:10,110 and standing out in the crowd, but at the same time 169 00:10:10,151 --> 00:10:13,363 feeling a sense that you are part of the dispossessed, 170 00:10:13,405 --> 00:10:16,533 which -- at the end of my art school term, 171 00:10:16,574 --> 00:10:18,618 I thought I could make a profit by. 172 00:10:19,703 --> 00:10:21,663 I became friends with Malcolm 173 00:10:21,705 --> 00:10:24,791 because he had a lot of contacts in music. 174 00:10:24,833 --> 00:10:26,459 He seemed to know everybody. 175 00:10:26,501 --> 00:10:28,670 He finds a way in with his blague, 176 00:10:28,712 --> 00:10:30,672 which is perfect for a manager. 177 00:10:31,506 --> 00:10:33,758 I walked up and down the King's Road 178 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,303 with complete anger and resentment. 179 00:10:38,555 --> 00:10:40,890 People were extremely absurd, 180 00:10:40,932 --> 00:10:44,894 and still stuck into flares and platform shoes 181 00:10:44,936 --> 00:10:47,605 and neatly coiffured longish hair, 182 00:10:47,647 --> 00:10:50,483 and pretending the world wasn't really happening. 183 00:10:50,525 --> 00:10:53,236 It was an escapism that I resented. 184 00:10:53,278 --> 00:10:55,238 There was also a garbage strike 185 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,699 going on for years and years and years, 186 00:10:57,699 --> 00:11:00,118 and there was trash piled 1 0 foot high. 187 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,579 They seem to have missed that. 188 00:11:02,620 --> 00:11:06,458 Wear the garbage bag, for God's sake -- 189 00:11:06,499 --> 00:11:09,544 and then you're dealing with it. 190 00:11:09,586 --> 00:11:12,047 And that's what I would be doing... 191 00:11:12,047 --> 00:11:15,425 I would wrap myself basically in trash. 192 00:11:15,467 --> 00:11:18,470 ...and that so lamely and unfashionable... 193 00:11:18,511 --> 00:11:21,890 that dogs bark at me as I halt by them. 194 00:11:21,931 --> 00:11:25,352 I've got news for you. Dogs bark at me. 195 00:11:27,145 --> 00:11:31,441 In a weird way, that whole persona of, say, "Richard Ill" 196 00:11:31,483 --> 00:11:34,486 helped when I joined the Sex Pistols. 197 00:11:34,527 --> 00:11:38,406 Deformed, hilarious, grotesque -- 198 00:11:38,406 --> 00:11:41,076 and the "Hunchback of Notre Dame" is in there, 199 00:11:41,117 --> 00:11:43,620 and just bizarre characters 200 00:11:43,661 --> 00:11:46,831 that somehow or other, through all of their deformities 201 00:11:46,873 --> 00:11:48,667 managed to achieve something. 202 00:11:48,708 --> 00:11:50,543 # ...Just for a short while # 203 00:11:50,585 --> 00:11:52,545 # She'll scratch in the sand # 204 00:11:52,587 --> 00:11:54,464 # Won't let go of his hand... # 205 00:11:54,506 --> 00:11:57,300 Steve was a kind of a kleptomaniac, really. 206 00:11:57,342 --> 00:11:59,886 I'm sure he would be diagnosed as that, you know, 207 00:11:59,928 --> 00:12:02,555 because he couldn't keep his hands in his pockets... 208 00:12:02,597 --> 00:12:04,933 which was quite handy, really. 209 00:12:04,974 --> 00:12:07,936 We'd always know a way in round the back of Hammersmith Odeon, 210 00:12:07,977 --> 00:12:09,938 being our local area. 211 00:12:11,064 --> 00:12:13,066 # The Jean Genie... # 212 00:12:13,108 --> 00:12:16,528 David Bowie was playing the Ziggy farewell thing, 213 00:12:16,569 --> 00:12:19,447 and while the roadies was asleep in the front row, 214 00:12:19,489 --> 00:12:22,867 he'd be going around on stage snipping all the microphones off. 215 00:12:22,909 --> 00:12:25,745 We had great guitars, amplifiers, 216 00:12:25,787 --> 00:12:29,416 great drum kits, PA system, everything, 217 00:12:29,457 --> 00:12:32,127 but, you know, we couldn't play it properly. 218 00:12:36,006 --> 00:12:38,758 To prevent myself from being beaten up 219 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,720 by what were Uxbridge Teddy Boys 220 00:12:41,761 --> 00:12:44,097 coming in, pilfering in the store, 221 00:12:44,139 --> 00:12:46,266 I decided to go down another route -- 222 00:12:46,307 --> 00:12:48,768 rubber and leather fetish wear. 223 00:12:48,810 --> 00:12:50,145 I felt that... 224 00:12:50,186 --> 00:12:54,065 that would look fun and exciting on the King's Road 225 00:12:54,107 --> 00:12:57,569 because it would have a similar effrontery 226 00:12:57,610 --> 00:13:01,990 that Teddy Boy clothes had, except it would be new. 227 00:13:02,032 --> 00:13:04,284 Malcolm's shop interested me 228 00:13:04,325 --> 00:13:07,245 because of the rubber wear. 229 00:13:09,539 --> 00:13:13,293 Fascinating that people can get themselves into such a predicament 230 00:13:13,335 --> 00:13:16,796 that the only way they can have sex is in a face mask 231 00:13:16,838 --> 00:13:19,341 and a rubber T-shirt. 232 00:13:20,759 --> 00:13:22,969 With a bollock weight. 233 00:13:24,095 --> 00:13:27,599 How does it become that way? It becomes like that for you 234 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,436 because you just cannot face reality. 235 00:13:35,231 --> 00:13:37,067 Steve just came back one day, and said, 236 00:13:37,108 --> 00:13:38,943 "l found a bass player." I said, "Who's that?" 237 00:13:38,985 --> 00:13:41,821 He said, "This guy, Glen, who works in Malcolm's shop." 238 00:13:41,863 --> 00:13:44,532 Lo and behold, I started rehearsing with them. 239 00:13:44,574 --> 00:13:49,245 They had so much equipment that Steve had "assembled," shall we say? 240 00:13:49,287 --> 00:13:51,915 We were always pestering Malcolm to manage us, 241 00:13:51,956 --> 00:13:55,669 and he said he'd be interested if we got rid of Wally. 242 00:13:55,710 --> 00:13:58,129 He came down once, he said, "You shouldn't sing, 243 00:13:58,171 --> 00:14:00,840 you should play guitar. You should get a singer." 244 00:14:00,882 --> 00:14:03,718 We realized wally was gonna have to go. 245 00:14:05,220 --> 00:14:07,847 Alas, poor [ Wally ]... 246 00:14:07,889 --> 00:14:10,350 I knew him, Horatio. 247 00:14:10,392 --> 00:14:12,769 Round this time there was a group of guys 248 00:14:12,811 --> 00:14:14,896 who came from the north side of London, 249 00:14:14,938 --> 00:14:16,648 who used to come into the shop 250 00:14:16,690 --> 00:14:18,942 probably for the same reasons we did, 251 00:14:18,983 --> 00:14:20,443 you know, on a Saturday, whatever... 252 00:14:20,485 --> 00:14:23,405 there was the group of them, apparently all called "John." 253 00:14:23,446 --> 00:14:26,366 Steve and Paul never believed we were all called John... 254 00:14:26,408 --> 00:14:28,702 They could never take that. 255 00:14:28,743 --> 00:14:30,704 Sid's real name is John. 256 00:14:30,745 --> 00:14:32,455 Theyjust thought we were 257 00:14:32,497 --> 00:14:35,917 Iike a "Clockwork Orange" gang, you know -- "The Johns." 258 00:14:36,918 --> 00:14:40,213 I've no idea why they picked me out... 259 00:14:40,255 --> 00:14:44,259 other than they thought I looked well different from the pack. 260 00:14:45,301 --> 00:14:47,846 We arranged to meet John one night... 261 00:14:47,887 --> 00:14:49,764 in a pubjust down the road. 262 00:14:49,806 --> 00:14:53,101 We had a few pints, and then we came back to the shop. 263 00:14:54,144 --> 00:14:56,646 We gave the singer an audition 264 00:14:56,688 --> 00:14:59,983 in my shop, later on, after the pub had closed, 265 00:15:00,025 --> 00:15:02,110 for him to imitate, 266 00:15:02,152 --> 00:15:05,113 and for him to try to sing along 267 00:15:05,155 --> 00:15:08,158 with an Alice Cooper track on the jukebox 268 00:15:08,199 --> 00:15:10,869 called "Eighteen", which I adored. 269 00:15:10,910 --> 00:15:14,414 And he sung it like "The Hunchback of Notre Dame." 270 00:15:16,791 --> 00:15:19,044 # I'm eighteen # 271 00:15:19,085 --> 00:15:21,671 # And I don't know what I want # 272 00:15:21,713 --> 00:15:24,132 I always did view myself 273 00:15:24,174 --> 00:15:27,135 as one damn ugly fucker. 274 00:15:27,177 --> 00:15:30,889 I certainly weren't no belle of the ball. 275 00:15:30,930 --> 00:15:33,308 John just started... 276 00:15:33,308 --> 00:15:36,019 going into spasms in front of the jukebox, 277 00:15:36,061 --> 00:15:38,271 and singing, and doing his act, 278 00:15:38,313 --> 00:15:41,149 what later became what everyone knows and loves, you know. 279 00:15:42,233 --> 00:15:45,445 And I knew right away then that he was the singer. 280 00:15:45,487 --> 00:15:48,448 He was... gonna be the one, really. 281 00:15:49,449 --> 00:15:51,743 I personally wouldn't have got him in the band, 282 00:15:51,785 --> 00:15:53,661 even though he looked like a star. 283 00:15:53,661 --> 00:15:57,374 I thought he was a wanker for taking the piss, and he wasn't serious... 284 00:15:57,415 --> 00:15:59,793 But then, after speaking to him for a while, 285 00:15:59,834 --> 00:16:02,253 I realize that that was his own insecurity 286 00:16:02,295 --> 00:16:05,382 to take the piss because he wasn't really a singer. 287 00:16:07,342 --> 00:16:09,844 John was from a different world from me and Cookie. 288 00:16:09,844 --> 00:16:12,555 He's more of an intellectual, John. 289 00:16:13,765 --> 00:16:16,434 I knew what Steve was. 290 00:16:16,476 --> 00:16:20,647 I knew he had potential to be a great person. 291 00:16:20,689 --> 00:16:23,942 There's something in him that's genuine. 292 00:16:23,983 --> 00:16:28,655 I can see that there's a tragedy in him, just like in me. 293 00:16:28,697 --> 00:16:32,075 Deep down inside, they're wounded people. 294 00:16:32,117 --> 00:16:34,327 And then there's Glen... 295 00:16:34,369 --> 00:16:38,331 waffling on about nice things like the Beatles. 296 00:16:38,373 --> 00:16:42,252 We're the very first people to call each other cunts 297 00:16:42,293 --> 00:16:44,087 outright -- 298 00:16:44,129 --> 00:16:46,756 face on -- and know it. 299 00:16:46,798 --> 00:16:50,343 And we are. We all are... All in our way. 300 00:16:50,385 --> 00:16:52,512 You put all this together, and it... 301 00:16:52,554 --> 00:16:56,766 it makes for high drama, a bit like a Harold Pinter play. 302 00:16:56,808 --> 00:16:59,352 It shouldn't work, but it does. 303 00:17:24,085 --> 00:17:27,047 All our first rehearsals were a nightmare. 304 00:17:27,088 --> 00:17:29,591 I couldn't hold a damn note, 305 00:17:29,632 --> 00:17:33,261 Paul couldn't really keep time, I couldn't play guitar. 306 00:17:33,303 --> 00:17:37,140 I fucking hated it. It was just a fucking noise, 307 00:17:37,182 --> 00:17:40,602 but I just stuck in there, because that's all I had. 308 00:17:40,643 --> 00:17:42,854 # ...no lip, child # 309 00:17:42,896 --> 00:17:45,774 # And I mean what I say # 310 00:17:47,233 --> 00:17:49,736 # Don't give me no lip, child # 311 00:17:49,778 --> 00:17:52,697 # You'll be sorry one day # 312 00:17:52,739 --> 00:17:56,034 Oh, fuck, it's awful. I hate songs like that. 313 00:17:57,077 --> 00:17:59,954 Right from the start, we'd argue -- 314 00:17:59,954 --> 00:18:03,249 bitterly, bitterly, from day one rehearsal, 315 00:18:03,291 --> 00:18:05,377 pure, full-on row. 316 00:18:05,418 --> 00:18:07,629 It would be constantly, 317 00:18:07,671 --> 00:18:09,756 "You know, you've gotta learn to sing." 318 00:18:09,798 --> 00:18:11,925 And it's like, "Why?" 319 00:18:11,966 --> 00:18:14,636 "Says who? Who wrote the rules here?" 320 00:18:14,678 --> 00:18:19,015 But that's all right, you need that difference of character. 321 00:18:19,057 --> 00:18:21,726 I didn't think, if I could be a sculptor, 322 00:18:21,768 --> 00:18:24,270 I necessarily needed clay... 323 00:18:24,312 --> 00:18:28,274 I suddenly thought, "You can use people!" 324 00:18:28,316 --> 00:18:33,154 And it's people that I used, like an artist. 325 00:18:33,196 --> 00:18:35,949 I manipulated. 326 00:18:35,990 --> 00:18:40,495 So, creating something called the "Sex Pistols" 327 00:18:40,537 --> 00:18:44,582 was my painting, my sculpture, 328 00:18:44,624 --> 00:18:46,543 my little "Artful Dodgers." 329 00:18:46,584 --> 00:18:50,130 Humph -- you don't create me... 330 00:18:50,171 --> 00:18:52,215 I am me. 331 00:18:52,257 --> 00:18:54,217 There is a difference. 332 00:18:54,259 --> 00:18:58,179 Everyone on the planet knows Malcolm's full of shit. 333 00:18:58,221 --> 00:19:00,974 He's convinced people now that he's full of shit, 334 00:19:01,016 --> 00:19:04,227 by all the shit that he says, it gets worse and worse. 335 00:19:04,269 --> 00:19:06,938 And the idea of the name "Sex Pistols" 336 00:19:06,980 --> 00:19:11,359 was sexy young assassins. "Pistol" meaning a gun -- 337 00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:15,530 and then "pistol" meaning a kind of penis. 338 00:19:15,572 --> 00:19:19,409 There was never a relationship with the manager -- for me, 339 00:19:19,451 --> 00:19:22,579 other than he would always try to steal my ideas, 340 00:19:22,620 --> 00:19:24,664 and claim them to be his own. 341 00:19:24,706 --> 00:19:27,584 I had to accept that he was the manager 342 00:19:27,625 --> 00:19:31,379 because he was their manager before I joined the band. 343 00:19:31,421 --> 00:19:33,715 I think they're the same fucking star sign. 344 00:19:33,757 --> 00:19:35,967 They're the same kind of personality. 345 00:19:36,009 --> 00:19:37,886 They were always butting heads. 346 00:19:37,927 --> 00:19:40,722 It was definitely John who steered the ship 347 00:19:40,764 --> 00:19:42,432 into the way we looked. 348 00:19:42,474 --> 00:19:46,019 Torn, safety pin, zips all over the gaff, 349 00:19:46,061 --> 00:19:48,188 third rate tramp thing. 350 00:19:48,229 --> 00:19:51,358 That was poverty, really. Lack of money. 351 00:19:51,399 --> 00:19:53,693 The arse of your pants falls out, 352 00:19:53,735 --> 00:19:56,321 you just use safety pins. 353 00:19:56,363 --> 00:19:58,490 And I always used to call him "rotten," 354 00:19:58,531 --> 00:20:00,909 'cause his fucking teeth were like, dreadful, 355 00:20:00,909 --> 00:20:02,911 they looked like dog-ends, 356 00:20:02,911 --> 00:20:05,372 and -- itjust stuck. 357 00:20:05,413 --> 00:20:09,334 Steve always looked like a hairdresser on the high road. 358 00:20:09,417 --> 00:20:11,169 He had a perm, 359 00:20:11,211 --> 00:20:13,588 and unfortunately, it became permanent. 360 00:20:17,592 --> 00:20:20,261 I don't have any heroes. 361 00:20:20,303 --> 00:20:22,347 They're all useless. 362 00:20:22,389 --> 00:20:24,599 I mean, there's no bands around, is there? 363 00:20:24,641 --> 00:20:26,309 None. 364 00:20:26,351 --> 00:20:28,269 None that are accessible. 365 00:20:28,269 --> 00:20:30,730 It's Emerson, Lake and Palmer. 366 00:20:35,402 --> 00:20:37,570 All those super bands at that time -- 367 00:20:37,612 --> 00:20:41,825 Emerson, Lake and Palmer, Yes -- they were dinosaurs, 368 00:20:41,866 --> 00:20:45,245 They were dreadful, because they were fucking boring. 369 00:20:45,286 --> 00:20:49,249 Uriah Heep... Fucking, you know... Gong! 370 00:20:49,290 --> 00:20:53,169 I wanted the Sex Pistols to compete 371 00:20:53,211 --> 00:20:55,505 with the Bay City Rollers! 372 00:20:55,547 --> 00:20:59,759 Can you imagine Johnny Rotten singing "Shang-a-Lang"? 373 00:21:01,011 --> 00:21:03,263 # Shang-a-lang # 374 00:21:04,848 --> 00:21:06,766 # Shang-a-lang # 375 00:21:07,767 --> 00:21:09,936 # Shang-a-lang, shang-a-lang # 376 00:21:09,978 --> 00:21:11,771 Ugh-hh! 377 00:21:11,813 --> 00:21:15,066 Stradivarius -- was a terrible painter... 378 00:21:19,738 --> 00:21:22,407 and Rembrandt -- made rotten violins. 379 00:21:23,450 --> 00:21:25,744 I got interested in the arts, 380 00:21:25,785 --> 00:21:28,329 and ended up going to St. Martin's for a year. 381 00:21:28,371 --> 00:21:30,832 I walked in there and asked to see the social secretary, 382 00:21:30,874 --> 00:21:32,834 and this guy said, "Well, I am." 383 00:21:32,876 --> 00:21:35,128 And it was Sebastian Conran. 384 00:21:35,170 --> 00:21:37,088 And he said, "Well, what's the name of your band?" 385 00:21:37,130 --> 00:21:39,507 And I said, "The Sex Pistols," and Sebastian went -- 386 00:21:39,549 --> 00:21:43,136 "The Sex Pistols? Oh, we must have them." 387 00:21:44,346 --> 00:21:47,807 I remembered being just fucking terrified, 388 00:21:47,849 --> 00:21:50,810 and I had to take a Mandrax to calm down. 389 00:21:51,519 --> 00:21:53,146 Hello. 390 00:21:54,189 --> 00:21:56,608 Hello, I'm pissed again. 391 00:21:56,649 --> 00:21:59,652 I think I took two Mandrax. We went up there, 392 00:21:59,694 --> 00:22:02,697 and it was all these arty-farty fuckers in this one room. 393 00:22:02,697 --> 00:22:04,616 There was no stage, 394 00:22:04,657 --> 00:22:06,951 and there was another band called "Bazooka Joe" 395 00:22:06,993 --> 00:22:08,870 that Adam Ant was the bass player in, 396 00:22:08,870 --> 00:22:11,081 and we were all knocking the pints back -- 397 00:22:11,122 --> 00:22:14,084 and it was time to go on, and the Mandrax were kicking in, 398 00:22:14,125 --> 00:22:16,127 and we started playing... 399 00:22:17,003 --> 00:22:20,006 # ...you to know that I ain't your baby # 400 00:22:20,048 --> 00:22:22,967 # I want you to know I don't care # 401 00:22:28,431 --> 00:22:30,725 I remembered looking at John, and thinking, 402 00:22:30,767 --> 00:22:33,186 "This is fucking fantastic. I love this." 403 00:22:33,228 --> 00:22:35,271 It was like one of them magical moments. 404 00:22:35,313 --> 00:22:38,566 Everything in the universe fucking clicked. 405 00:22:38,608 --> 00:22:41,069 # What'cha gonna do about it... # 406 00:22:42,153 --> 00:22:45,865 Glen definitely wanted to be on "Top of the Pops." 407 00:22:47,075 --> 00:22:50,120 # I want you to know I don't care... # 408 00:22:50,161 --> 00:22:53,206 # I want you to know that I love you baby... # 409 00:22:53,248 --> 00:22:55,291 To me, that's really naff. 410 00:22:55,333 --> 00:22:58,670 It's saying, "l want you to know I don't care" 411 00:22:58,712 --> 00:23:01,297 Comes quite naturally. 412 00:23:01,339 --> 00:23:04,676 If I take other people's songs, I put a twist on them. 413 00:23:11,266 --> 00:23:14,019 Finally -- we're actually playing in a band, 414 00:23:14,060 --> 00:23:16,938 I ain't the singer, I'm comfortable playing the guitar -- 415 00:23:16,938 --> 00:23:18,940 mind you, I was fucked up -- 416 00:23:24,738 --> 00:23:27,323 and next thing I know, they've pulled the plug on us, 417 00:23:27,365 --> 00:23:29,659 and it was all over. We're just like out of it, 418 00:23:29,701 --> 00:23:32,662 and wandering around down Piccadilly Circus. 419 00:23:33,747 --> 00:23:36,499 I die of nerves before I go on stage, 420 00:23:36,541 --> 00:23:39,461 cause I don't know what I'm gonna do. 421 00:23:39,461 --> 00:23:43,006 And because of that, I'd have to just pull things out 422 00:23:43,048 --> 00:23:46,217 from deep down inside. 423 00:23:46,259 --> 00:23:50,764 Hello -- # 76 trombones to the hit parade # 424 00:23:52,807 --> 00:23:55,810 Look, there's Arthur Askey in there. 425 00:23:55,852 --> 00:23:58,938 There's Ken Dodd -- # We are the Daddymen... # 426 00:23:58,980 --> 00:24:01,399 # We come from Notty Ash # 427 00:24:01,441 --> 00:24:02,734 There's even... 428 00:24:02,776 --> 00:24:05,278 "There's nothing wrong with me." 429 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,364 - Do we know any... - Oi... 430 00:24:07,405 --> 00:24:10,408 Do we know any other fucking songs that we could do? 431 00:24:10,450 --> 00:24:13,870 What England didn't understand about the Sex Pistols 432 00:24:13,912 --> 00:24:16,539 is that we are music hall. 433 00:24:16,581 --> 00:24:18,708 Shall we do "Roadrunner"? 434 00:24:19,751 --> 00:24:22,796 I hate that. It's fucking awful. Stop it. 435 00:24:22,837 --> 00:24:25,465 Stop it, it's fucking awful! 436 00:24:28,093 --> 00:24:31,930 There was always a sense of piss take, and fun to it. 437 00:24:31,971 --> 00:24:35,016 Shout out what -- how it starts. What's the first line? 438 00:24:35,058 --> 00:24:38,645 There's a sense of comedy in the English, 439 00:24:38,687 --> 00:24:41,606 even in your grimmest moment. 440 00:24:41,648 --> 00:24:43,942 Right-- can you start at the beginning? 441 00:24:45,610 --> 00:24:47,028 I can't hear you, Paul. 442 00:24:47,070 --> 00:24:48,655 You laugh. 443 00:24:51,408 --> 00:24:53,326 Who wants a bunk-up? 444 00:24:54,661 --> 00:24:55,745 Who wants a bunk-up? 445 00:24:58,039 --> 00:24:59,708 Who wants a bunk-up? 446 00:24:59,749 --> 00:25:01,376 # With the radio on... # 447 00:25:01,418 --> 00:25:02,794 "...Deform'd, unfinish'd..." 448 00:25:02,836 --> 00:25:05,588 # Roadrunner, roadrunner... 449 00:25:07,382 --> 00:25:09,884 "Deform'd, unfinish'd..." 450 00:25:12,345 --> 00:25:14,681 Deform'd, unfinish'd... 451 00:25:16,266 --> 00:25:19,019 One week we'd be playing up in high Wycombe 452 00:25:19,060 --> 00:25:21,187 opening up for Screaming Lord Sutch, 453 00:25:21,229 --> 00:25:24,858 and I remember seeing some faces, guys with long hair. 454 00:25:24,899 --> 00:25:28,194 "When all other indications suggest..." 455 00:25:28,236 --> 00:25:30,488 When all other indications suggest... 456 00:25:30,530 --> 00:25:33,575 Then, a week later, we'd be playing at "The Nashville," 457 00:25:35,201 --> 00:25:37,871 ...that we're in for a dirty night. 458 00:25:39,247 --> 00:25:40,582 "...a dirty night." 459 00:25:40,623 --> 00:25:43,585 And I'd see the same people with their hair cut short, 460 00:25:43,626 --> 00:25:45,962 and wearing a ripped-up t-shirt. 461 00:25:47,005 --> 00:25:49,716 # Goin' a thousand miles an hour # 462 00:25:50,425 --> 00:25:53,845 Every gig you'd see a few more, and a few more, and a few more, 463 00:25:53,887 --> 00:25:56,181 people who just got converted. 464 00:26:01,644 --> 00:26:06,608 The Sex Pistols definitely created new environments. 465 00:26:09,069 --> 00:26:14,532 It was incredible good to see the audience being individual. 466 00:26:14,574 --> 00:26:17,369 # ...radio on... # 467 00:26:17,410 --> 00:26:19,746 # Roadrunner, roadrunner... # 468 00:26:19,788 --> 00:26:21,414 "Ain't nothing wrong with me." 469 00:26:21,456 --> 00:26:24,042 Oh, God, I don't know it. Fucking ridiculous. 470 00:26:24,084 --> 00:26:28,588 There was some absolutely stunning original people out there. 471 00:26:29,839 --> 00:26:31,591 "There's nothing wrong with me." 472 00:26:32,634 --> 00:26:34,427 Sioux cat woman... 473 00:26:34,469 --> 00:26:37,931 That woman required a lot of skill, style and bravery... 474 00:26:39,766 --> 00:26:41,893 to look like a cat. 475 00:26:51,569 --> 00:26:53,571 There was a couple of years there 476 00:26:53,613 --> 00:26:55,448 where it was stunning. 477 00:26:55,490 --> 00:27:00,203 People that had no self-respect suddenly started to view themselves 478 00:27:00,245 --> 00:27:03,456 as beautiful in not being beautiful. 479 00:27:03,498 --> 00:27:06,626 Women started to appreciate themselves 480 00:27:06,668 --> 00:27:09,087 as not second class citizens. 481 00:27:09,129 --> 00:27:11,756 Punk made that clear. 482 00:27:14,426 --> 00:27:16,720 I've always talked to the audience 483 00:27:16,761 --> 00:27:19,222 in a one-to-one way after gigs. 484 00:27:19,264 --> 00:27:21,975 "Where do you live? What's life like for you?" 485 00:27:22,017 --> 00:27:24,477 Absolute basics. 486 00:27:25,395 --> 00:27:27,814 # She put her bicycle # 487 00:27:27,856 --> 00:27:30,150 # under a tree # 488 00:27:30,191 --> 00:27:33,611 # I think that girl took a fancy to me... # 489 00:27:33,653 --> 00:27:35,655 But it was fun, I guess, talking to them. 490 00:27:35,697 --> 00:27:38,575 Actually, I didn't give a fuck about talking about the band, 491 00:27:38,616 --> 00:27:41,202 I just wanted to get me dick sucked, really. 492 00:27:41,244 --> 00:27:43,997 That was always the first thing on my mind. 493 00:27:44,039 --> 00:27:47,167 I wasn't interested in talking about politics after the show, 494 00:27:47,208 --> 00:27:50,545 I didn't even know who the fucking Prime Minister was at the time. 495 00:27:50,587 --> 00:27:53,381 # Let's have a ride on your bike # 496 00:27:53,423 --> 00:27:56,134 I pretty much just wanted to have a bunk-up, 497 00:27:56,176 --> 00:27:58,845 Iike any good teenager does. 498 00:27:59,721 --> 00:28:03,767 # I was born with a plastic spoon in my mouth... # 499 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,695 # You didn't look me in the eye # 500 00:28:15,737 --> 00:28:19,407 # Crocodile tears are what you cry # 501 00:28:23,536 --> 00:28:25,413 "Substitute" I liked... 502 00:28:25,455 --> 00:28:28,750 but I only liked certain phrases in it. 503 00:28:28,792 --> 00:28:30,752 So I'd twist them about. 504 00:28:30,752 --> 00:28:34,005 # You're so fat, I see right through... # 505 00:28:35,590 --> 00:28:39,886 "Oh, no you can't do that, it's a classic," 506 00:28:39,928 --> 00:28:41,638 says Glen. 507 00:28:45,016 --> 00:28:46,726 Fuck off! 508 00:28:53,483 --> 00:28:56,194 I think when we started writing our own stuff... 509 00:28:56,236 --> 00:28:58,822 is when it got more interesting. 510 00:28:59,781 --> 00:29:03,702 Because that's when it became our own musical force. 511 00:29:05,995 --> 00:29:09,416 Glen was coming up with most of the ideas for songs, 512 00:29:09,457 --> 00:29:11,584 and John would just be sitting in the corner, 513 00:29:11,626 --> 00:29:13,503 scribbling his lyrics out, there and then, 514 00:29:13,545 --> 00:29:15,005 while we were playing along to it. 515 00:29:15,046 --> 00:29:17,090 We had something, we had a spirit. 516 00:29:17,132 --> 00:29:19,467 But what we didn't have, we didn't have a way 517 00:29:19,509 --> 00:29:21,594 of putting that into words... 518 00:29:21,636 --> 00:29:23,263 which is what John had. 519 00:29:23,304 --> 00:29:27,642 The first line I wrote, was "l am an antichrist," 520 00:29:27,684 --> 00:29:31,771 and I couldn't think of a damn thing that rhymed with it, 521 00:29:31,813 --> 00:29:35,608 and "anarchist" just fitted really nicely. 522 00:29:36,401 --> 00:29:38,570 The only thing I didn't like about "Anarchy" 523 00:29:38,611 --> 00:29:40,613 was the dreadful rhyme -- 524 00:29:40,655 --> 00:29:43,742 "antichrist -- anarchist," it used to always make me wince. 525 00:29:46,327 --> 00:29:49,330 Oh, some decent fucking music at last! 526 00:29:54,919 --> 00:29:56,880 # Right... # 527 00:29:56,921 --> 00:29:58,798 # Now # 528 00:30:04,220 --> 00:30:07,682 # I am an antichrist # 529 00:30:07,724 --> 00:30:11,311 # I am an anarchist # 530 00:30:11,353 --> 00:30:15,065 # Don't know what I want, but I know how to get it # 531 00:30:15,106 --> 00:30:18,568 # I wanna destroy passerby # 532 00:30:18,610 --> 00:30:21,821 # 'Cause l... # 533 00:30:21,863 --> 00:30:24,574 # Wanna be... # 534 00:30:25,825 --> 00:30:27,410 # Anarchy # 535 00:30:27,452 --> 00:30:29,496 This band wasn't about making people happy, 536 00:30:29,537 --> 00:30:31,414 it was attack -- 537 00:30:31,456 --> 00:30:33,541 attack, attack, attack. 538 00:30:34,167 --> 00:30:37,379 # Anarchy for the UK # 539 00:30:37,420 --> 00:30:41,299 # It's coming sometime maybe # 540 00:30:41,341 --> 00:30:45,011 # I give a wrong time, stop a traffic line # 541 00:30:45,053 --> 00:30:48,640 # Your future dream is a shopping scheme # 542 00:30:48,682 --> 00:30:51,601 # 'Cause l... # 543 00:30:51,643 --> 00:30:54,104 # I wanna be... # 544 00:30:55,563 --> 00:30:58,358 # Anarchy # 545 00:31:06,366 --> 00:31:10,036 Sid, he was the total Pistols fan, really. 546 00:31:10,078 --> 00:31:12,539 I fucking loved that band. 547 00:31:12,580 --> 00:31:15,000 Along with a couple of other kids that knew John, 548 00:31:15,041 --> 00:31:18,795 I think I was about the biggest fan they ever had. 549 00:31:23,925 --> 00:31:27,846 # How many ways to get what you want # 550 00:31:27,887 --> 00:31:31,141 # I use the best I use the rest... # 551 00:31:31,182 --> 00:31:33,893 Rotten was like, incredible. 552 00:31:33,935 --> 00:31:36,438 Just like unbelievable. 553 00:31:36,438 --> 00:31:39,524 And Steve was fucking great as well. 554 00:31:39,566 --> 00:31:42,027 Glen was a cunt, as always. 555 00:31:42,068 --> 00:31:45,572 # Wanna be... # 556 00:31:45,613 --> 00:31:47,991 # Anarchy # 557 00:31:48,033 --> 00:31:51,202 What made the Sex Pistols different was John Rotten, 558 00:31:51,244 --> 00:31:54,122 'cause he was a total anti-star. 559 00:31:54,122 --> 00:31:56,791 He didn't like wiggle his bum or shake his hips, 560 00:31:56,833 --> 00:32:00,086 he did robot dances, and just fucked around, 561 00:32:00,128 --> 00:32:02,213 and took the piss out of everybody 562 00:32:02,255 --> 00:32:05,175 in a real nasty, snidy way. 563 00:32:09,137 --> 00:32:12,682 # ls this the MPLA # 564 00:32:12,724 --> 00:32:16,728 # Or is this the UDA # 565 00:32:16,770 --> 00:32:20,315 # Or is this the IRA # 566 00:32:20,357 --> 00:32:24,194 # I thought it was the UK... # 567 00:32:27,322 --> 00:32:30,825 The Bromley Contingent all the front row lot, 568 00:32:30,867 --> 00:32:33,119 they all ended up in bands, 569 00:32:33,161 --> 00:32:36,664 hence you got the punk movement. 570 00:32:41,878 --> 00:32:45,173 # I am an antichrist # 571 00:32:45,215 --> 00:32:48,301 # I am an anarchist # 572 00:32:48,343 --> 00:32:51,513 To see us playing like, just three chords 573 00:32:51,554 --> 00:32:54,265 gave the message that anybody could do this. 574 00:32:54,307 --> 00:32:56,601 Which was great -- all these other bands started -- 575 00:32:56,643 --> 00:32:59,062 I enjoyed watching the Clash, I enjoyed the Damned. 576 00:32:59,104 --> 00:33:02,023 Itjust happened so quick, and it was so exciting, 577 00:33:02,023 --> 00:33:05,902 you'd think, "Wow, there's really a movement starting here." 578 00:33:11,032 --> 00:33:13,034 One chick came down one night 579 00:33:13,034 --> 00:33:16,454 wearing a polka dot see-through mac -- 580 00:33:16,496 --> 00:33:18,665 and nothing else. 581 00:33:18,707 --> 00:33:23,003 I actually saw one tourist stagger as she came into the club. 582 00:33:23,044 --> 00:33:25,588 He was so amazed by her appearance. 583 00:33:29,801 --> 00:33:31,970 Sid was amazing, because he was 584 00:33:32,012 --> 00:33:34,347 a stand out character in the crowd, 585 00:33:34,389 --> 00:33:35,932 because he wasn't in the band then. 586 00:33:35,974 --> 00:33:37,809 He invented the pogo all by himself. 587 00:33:37,851 --> 00:33:40,311 He'd just sort ofjump on the shoulders of some people 588 00:33:40,353 --> 00:33:42,022 to get a better look. 589 00:33:42,063 --> 00:33:44,733 In the end he just started jumping up and down anyway. 590 00:33:44,774 --> 00:33:47,861 Yeah, I started it 'cause I hated the Bromley Contingent, 591 00:33:47,902 --> 00:33:49,946 and I invented a dance that would involve 592 00:33:49,988 --> 00:33:53,700 being able to knock them all over the fucking "1 00 Club," 593 00:33:53,742 --> 00:33:56,369 so I just used to throw myself about. 594 00:33:56,411 --> 00:33:59,080 Leap up like horizontal, and sideways, 595 00:33:59,122 --> 00:34:00,874 just like boing... 596 00:34:00,915 --> 00:34:02,751 Boing, boing, boing. 597 00:34:02,792 --> 00:34:06,087 You'd like land on them, and smash them into the floor. 598 00:34:07,088 --> 00:34:08,673 Yeah... 599 00:34:08,715 --> 00:34:10,842 My name is Nick Kent. 600 00:34:10,884 --> 00:34:12,886 I'm a... 601 00:34:12,927 --> 00:34:16,431 A once-renowned journalist for "The New Musical Express." 602 00:34:16,473 --> 00:34:18,808 Well, Sid, as he was known then, 603 00:34:18,850 --> 00:34:23,021 who I'd encountered once before, I'd not actually met him -- 604 00:34:23,063 --> 00:34:25,940 was obviously under the influence 605 00:34:25,940 --> 00:34:28,401 of some sort of amphetamines 606 00:34:28,443 --> 00:34:32,781 or extreme adrenaline propulsing stimulants. 607 00:34:32,822 --> 00:34:35,325 Sid Vicious was looking for a fight. 608 00:34:35,367 --> 00:34:37,827 Just fucking watch out, pal, all right? 609 00:34:37,869 --> 00:34:41,373 Or otherwise I'll fucking slice you open. 610 00:34:41,414 --> 00:34:44,084 He hit me over the head a few times with a chain, 611 00:34:44,125 --> 00:34:46,503 which didn't require any stitches, fortunately. 612 00:34:46,544 --> 00:34:49,255 I sort of wandered upstairs in a complete... 613 00:34:49,297 --> 00:34:52,801 Iather of blood and confusion. 614 00:34:52,842 --> 00:34:57,263 I truly admire their attitude, 615 00:34:57,305 --> 00:35:00,433 I thought it was... very brave. 616 00:35:00,475 --> 00:35:04,229 Immediately before this attack occurred, 617 00:35:04,270 --> 00:35:07,899 John Rotten was deep in discussion with Sid. 618 00:35:07,941 --> 00:35:12,904 I figure that John was -- "Johnny" -- as he's known, 619 00:35:12,946 --> 00:35:15,782 was setting me up, 'cause this is all true. 620 00:35:15,824 --> 00:35:18,785 In fact, Sid got the name "Vicious" from that fight. 621 00:35:18,827 --> 00:35:22,205 John Rotten christened him "Vicious" from that fight. 622 00:35:22,247 --> 00:35:25,000 Said he, falling against the door. 623 00:35:25,041 --> 00:35:28,545 Sid Vicious got the name after my pet hamster, 624 00:35:28,586 --> 00:35:31,047 that bit him one day... 625 00:35:31,089 --> 00:35:33,633 when he was trying to be sweet to it. 626 00:35:33,675 --> 00:35:37,721 And its name was Sid, and he really liked that. 627 00:35:38,763 --> 00:35:41,474 "Your Sid was vicious." 628 00:35:41,516 --> 00:35:44,853 The group were doing a very private, I think, secret show, 629 00:35:44,894 --> 00:35:47,105 at "The Screen on the Green," lslington. 630 00:35:48,356 --> 00:35:51,317 I went along with a couple of our A&R people, 631 00:35:51,359 --> 00:35:53,361 and Chris Wright, the chairman. 632 00:35:54,362 --> 00:35:57,282 Knocked on the door, somebody opened the door, and said, "Fuck off!" 633 00:35:59,868 --> 00:36:01,619 Well we weren't gonna be dissuaded, 634 00:36:01,661 --> 00:36:05,040 so we sort of tapped on the door again and said, "We're invited." 635 00:36:05,081 --> 00:36:07,459 And a head popped 'round again, and said, "Fuck Off!" 636 00:36:09,961 --> 00:36:11,921 They were a particularly ugly band. 637 00:36:11,963 --> 00:36:15,425 # We're so pretty, oh, so pretty # 638 00:36:17,093 --> 00:36:19,012 # We're vacant # 639 00:36:19,054 --> 00:36:22,640 # We're so pretty, oh, so pretty # 640 00:36:24,309 --> 00:36:25,894 # Vacant # 641 00:36:25,935 --> 00:36:29,189 # Don't ask us to attend 'cause we're not all there # 642 00:36:29,230 --> 00:36:32,067 # Don't pretend, 'cause I don't care # 643 00:36:32,108 --> 00:36:35,070 And there was only a little bit of a scuffle, nothing much. 644 00:36:41,659 --> 00:36:43,828 I've known musicians to defend themselves 645 00:36:43,870 --> 00:36:46,081 if the thing goes onto the stage, 646 00:36:46,122 --> 00:36:48,208 But I've never seen musicians drop their instruments 647 00:36:48,249 --> 00:36:50,835 And sort of dive in at a small scrap 648 00:36:50,877 --> 00:36:53,380 And extend it, and forget about the music. 649 00:36:53,421 --> 00:36:55,507 And I found that a bit much. 650 00:36:59,052 --> 00:37:01,846 I went back two or three times after that, 651 00:37:01,888 --> 00:37:04,057 just to make sure that... you know, they were as bad 652 00:37:04,099 --> 00:37:05,892 as I thought they were the first time. 653 00:37:08,144 --> 00:37:10,939 # ...and we don't care! # 654 00:37:12,607 --> 00:37:14,526 Ever! 655 00:37:14,567 --> 00:37:18,405 Why all the infamous language? 656 00:37:18,446 --> 00:37:20,615 "lnfamous language"? You're joking. 657 00:37:20,657 --> 00:37:23,743 I speak nothing but the fucking English language. 658 00:37:23,785 --> 00:37:27,664 And if that's "lnfamous," Then, huh-huh-huh, tough titters. 659 00:37:28,206 --> 00:37:31,126 Basically, the Pistols' attitude to the press 660 00:37:31,126 --> 00:37:33,503 was one of completely like "Fuck you," you know? 661 00:37:33,545 --> 00:37:36,381 I mean, just absolutely "Fuck you." 662 00:37:36,423 --> 00:37:40,093 Which was great -- I mean, it was the perfect antidote 663 00:37:40,135 --> 00:37:44,806 to all the 99% of other stupid rock groups 664 00:37:44,848 --> 00:37:47,559 who like, licked the arse of the press, 665 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,353 and, I mean, it worked perfectly for them. 666 00:37:50,395 --> 00:37:52,564 Mostjournalists are masochists. 667 00:37:52,605 --> 00:37:54,899 They're just toss pots, most of them. 668 00:37:54,941 --> 00:37:58,737 Don't accept the old order. Get rid of it. 669 00:38:03,324 --> 00:38:05,910 We've been there for five years or more, 670 00:38:05,952 --> 00:38:09,122 just waiting for this to happen, and now it's happened. 671 00:38:09,164 --> 00:38:11,624 It had to, it was the only thing that could happen. 672 00:38:11,666 --> 00:38:13,835 It was the only thing that didn't come from the industry -- 673 00:38:13,877 --> 00:38:17,380 it came from the kids themselves. Something had to come from the kids. 674 00:38:23,011 --> 00:38:25,263 # Come on and join us # 675 00:38:25,305 --> 00:38:27,724 # We're the young nation # 676 00:38:27,766 --> 00:38:30,226 # Come on and join us # 677 00:38:30,268 --> 00:38:32,479 # Nationwide... # 678 00:38:37,525 --> 00:38:39,152 # Right... # 679 00:38:39,194 --> 00:38:41,071 # Now # 680 00:38:46,910 --> 00:38:50,288 # I am an antichrist # 681 00:38:50,330 --> 00:38:53,917 # I am an anarchist... # 682 00:38:53,958 --> 00:38:56,544 This group are leaders of a whole new teenage cult 683 00:38:56,586 --> 00:38:58,838 that seems to be on the way to being as big 684 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,840 as mods and rockers were in the '60s. 685 00:39:00,882 --> 00:39:04,427 The cult is called "punk," the music, "punk rock." 686 00:39:04,469 --> 00:39:08,473 Basic rock music -- raw, outrageous and crude, 687 00:39:08,515 --> 00:39:11,184 Iike their fan magazine, "Sniffing Glue." 688 00:39:11,226 --> 00:39:13,186 I think our music is very honest. 689 00:39:13,228 --> 00:39:17,816 It's the most honest thing that's been happening in the last 1 5 years. 690 00:39:17,857 --> 00:39:19,150 Nothing to beat it. 691 00:39:19,192 --> 00:39:22,070 Finding places to play is becoming harder, 692 00:39:22,112 --> 00:39:25,573 thanks to the reputation punks are getting as troublemakers, 693 00:39:25,615 --> 00:39:28,868 and the Sex Pistols themselves even had to hire a strip club 694 00:39:28,910 --> 00:39:32,455 to get their music heard. Nowhere else would take them. 695 00:39:37,919 --> 00:39:39,421 # Anarchy # 696 00:39:39,462 --> 00:39:40,672 From the street. 697 00:39:45,301 --> 00:39:47,971 I find the Pistols very believable, 698 00:39:48,013 --> 00:39:51,307 I find it's all related to violence... 699 00:39:51,349 --> 00:39:53,643 in the mind, not in the body. 700 00:39:57,230 --> 00:39:59,482 Malcolm began to get a little bit serious about it, 701 00:39:59,524 --> 00:40:02,485 and he brought in a lawyer by the name of Fisher... 702 00:40:02,527 --> 00:40:07,032 That dreadful lawyer whose name I refuse to speak -- 703 00:40:07,073 --> 00:40:08,700 There was... 704 00:40:08,742 --> 00:40:11,661 basically an auction between Polydor and EMl. 705 00:40:11,703 --> 00:40:14,414 We came up with a contract which gave the Pistols 706 00:40:14,456 --> 00:40:17,751 total creative control. 707 00:40:19,127 --> 00:40:21,338 Malcolm decided to go with EMl. 708 00:40:26,051 --> 00:40:28,053 I went into the A&R department, I said, 709 00:40:28,094 --> 00:40:29,804 "Who are these crazy guys?" 710 00:40:29,846 --> 00:40:31,973 They said, "lt's the Sex Pistols, we just signed them. 711 00:40:32,015 --> 00:40:33,183 They're tremendous." 712 00:40:33,224 --> 00:40:35,560 And my first actual plug for them was, after all this, 713 00:40:35,602 --> 00:40:38,438 was by phoning up the "Today" program. 714 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,273 They phoned back, said, "Yes... 715 00:40:40,315 --> 00:40:43,276 We'd like to use the Sex Pistols," you know, 716 00:40:43,318 --> 00:40:46,196 "Will that be okay?" I said, "l'm sure it'll be all right." 717 00:40:46,237 --> 00:40:49,657 They slung us in the green room, with a fridge, 718 00:40:49,699 --> 00:40:51,409 and I remember downing 719 00:40:51,451 --> 00:40:53,787 about fucking four bottles of "Blue Nun," 720 00:40:53,828 --> 00:40:56,915 and I was fucking just -- having a good old time, 721 00:40:56,956 --> 00:41:00,210 pissed at this point, by the time we went out there. 722 00:41:00,251 --> 00:41:02,003 And that's all I remember. 723 00:41:02,045 --> 00:41:06,216 They are "punk rockers." the new craze, they tell me. 724 00:41:06,257 --> 00:41:07,759 They are heroes -- 725 00:41:07,801 --> 00:41:10,970 not the nice, clean, Rolling Stones. 726 00:41:11,012 --> 00:41:13,973 They are as drunk as I am. They are clean by comparison, 727 00:41:14,015 --> 00:41:17,185 they are a group called "the Sex Pistols," 728 00:41:17,227 --> 00:41:20,605 I am told that that group... 729 00:41:20,647 --> 00:41:23,942 have received £40,000 from a record company. 730 00:41:23,983 --> 00:41:26,361 Doesn't that seem to be slightly opposed 731 00:41:26,403 --> 00:41:29,364 to their anti-materialistic view of life? 732 00:41:29,406 --> 00:41:31,491 - No, the more, the merrier. - Really? 733 00:41:31,533 --> 00:41:33,201 - Oh, yeah. - Tell me more about it. 734 00:41:33,243 --> 00:41:34,536 We've fucking spent it. 735 00:41:34,577 --> 00:41:37,288 - I don't know. Have you? - Yeah, it's all gone. 736 00:41:37,330 --> 00:41:40,417 No one even heard that one, 'cause he was drunk himself, 737 00:41:40,458 --> 00:41:42,335 and he wasn't paying attention when he asked, 738 00:41:42,377 --> 00:41:45,630 "What did you do with the money?" and I said, "We fucking spent it." 739 00:41:45,672 --> 00:41:48,174 - Tell me more about it. - We've fucking spent it. 740 00:41:48,216 --> 00:41:51,011 - I don't know. Have you? - Yeah, it's all gone. 741 00:41:51,052 --> 00:41:53,179 - Really? - Down the boozer. 742 00:41:53,221 --> 00:41:54,848 Really? Good Lord! 743 00:41:54,889 --> 00:41:56,808 Now, I want to know one thing: 744 00:41:56,850 --> 00:41:59,978 Beethoven, Mozart, Bach and Brahms have all died... 745 00:42:00,020 --> 00:42:03,189 - They're all heroes of ours. - Really? What were you saying? 746 00:42:03,231 --> 00:42:05,025 - They're wonderful people. - Are they? 747 00:42:05,066 --> 00:42:08,111 - Yes, they really turn us on. - But they're dead. 748 00:42:08,153 --> 00:42:10,488 Suppose they turn other people on? 749 00:42:10,530 --> 00:42:12,365 That's just their tough shit. 750 00:42:12,407 --> 00:42:15,869 Rotten, he slipped up and said "shit" under his breath. 751 00:42:15,910 --> 00:42:18,538 - It's what? - Nothing, a rude word. 752 00:42:18,580 --> 00:42:20,707 - Next question. - No, no... 753 00:42:20,749 --> 00:42:22,709 What was the rude word? 754 00:42:22,751 --> 00:42:25,378 - Shit. - Was it really? Good heavens. 755 00:42:25,420 --> 00:42:28,298 - You frighten me to death. - All right, so you play games... 756 00:42:28,340 --> 00:42:31,468 He's like your dad, ain't he, this geezer? 757 00:42:31,509 --> 00:42:32,677 Or your granddad. 758 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,763 Are you worried, or are you just enjoying yourself? 759 00:42:34,804 --> 00:42:36,514 - Enjoying myself. - Are you? 760 00:42:36,556 --> 00:42:38,016 That's what I thought. 761 00:42:38,058 --> 00:42:40,352 - I always wanted to meet you. - Did you really? 762 00:42:40,393 --> 00:42:43,313 Siouxsie, she was just being coy with him, 763 00:42:43,355 --> 00:42:45,273 And he said, "Oh, maybe we'll meet after?" 764 00:42:45,315 --> 00:42:47,400 We'll meet afterwards, shall we? 765 00:42:47,442 --> 00:42:50,987 You dirty sod. You dirty old man. 766 00:42:51,029 --> 00:42:53,281 Steve completely understood 767 00:42:53,323 --> 00:42:55,867 that he was talking to a drunk 768 00:42:55,909 --> 00:42:58,286 as you would a drunk in a pub, 769 00:42:58,328 --> 00:43:00,580 and he just topped him. 770 00:43:03,333 --> 00:43:05,293 Go on, you've got another five seconds, 771 00:43:05,335 --> 00:43:07,712 - say something outrageous. - You dirty bastard. 772 00:43:07,754 --> 00:43:09,714 I just remember this fucking cunt 773 00:43:09,798 --> 00:43:12,592 just started provoking us, and we coated him off. 774 00:43:12,634 --> 00:43:14,719 - Go on -- again. - You dirty fucker. 775 00:43:14,761 --> 00:43:17,597 - What a clever boy. - What a fucking rotter. 776 00:43:17,639 --> 00:43:21,017 That's it for tonight. The other rocker, Eamonn, 777 00:43:21,059 --> 00:43:23,561 and I'm saying nothing else about him, will be back tomorrow. 778 00:43:23,645 --> 00:43:25,855 I'll be seeing you soon. I hope I'm not seeing you again. 779 00:43:25,897 --> 00:43:27,315 From me, though, goodnight. 780 00:43:27,315 --> 00:43:29,651 McLaren was there. He was terrified. 781 00:43:29,693 --> 00:43:31,486 He was shitting himself. 782 00:43:31,528 --> 00:43:33,613 He was death-white, you know, going 783 00:43:33,655 --> 00:43:36,032 "We'd fucking better get out of here, quick!" 784 00:43:36,074 --> 00:43:38,827 But the very next day, it was all his big idea. 785 00:43:41,705 --> 00:43:45,625 It was perfect stand-up comedy. It was Arthur Askey. 786 00:43:46,668 --> 00:43:49,879 # Well, I don't mind the things that you say # 787 00:43:49,921 --> 00:43:53,341 # I don't even mind goin' out of my way # 788 00:43:53,341 --> 00:43:56,845 # I try and do these things for you # 789 00:43:56,886 --> 00:44:00,640 # Why should I do it? I'm always untrue # 790 00:44:04,352 --> 00:44:07,355 That's all, a four letter word done everything. 791 00:44:09,607 --> 00:44:12,318 # Goin' outta my head # 792 00:44:13,903 --> 00:44:15,572 I loved it... 793 00:44:15,613 --> 00:44:19,701 I fucking loved it. It was like finally, I've arrived. 794 00:44:19,743 --> 00:44:22,662 Let the circus begin. 795 00:44:24,914 --> 00:44:28,376 # The bog is no place to see your face... # 796 00:44:28,418 --> 00:44:30,337 The committee have decided, 797 00:44:30,378 --> 00:44:32,672 that in fairness to the public of Derby, 798 00:44:32,714 --> 00:44:36,384 the Sex Pistols will not perform here tonight, 799 00:44:36,426 --> 00:44:39,679 but we are quite agreeable that the three other groups 800 00:44:39,721 --> 00:44:42,932 that have already been booked will go on. 801 00:44:44,142 --> 00:44:46,644 For the last 1 2 months, punk rock has become 802 00:44:46,728 --> 00:44:49,189 almost a battle cry in British society. 803 00:44:49,230 --> 00:44:51,941 For many people, it's a bigger threat to our way of life 804 00:44:51,983 --> 00:44:54,611 than Russian Communism or hyper-inflation, 805 00:44:54,652 --> 00:44:58,573 and it generates more popular excitement than either of those. 806 00:44:58,573 --> 00:45:01,076 We hope tonight, by this protest 807 00:45:01,117 --> 00:45:04,829 to make Wales know, and to let the people of this town know, 808 00:45:04,871 --> 00:45:08,583 that we do protest and it is by no fault of ours, 809 00:45:08,625 --> 00:45:10,919 that this thing has come to Caerphilly. 810 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,963 When your local council didn't ban the punk rock concert, 811 00:45:14,005 --> 00:45:16,591 you actually went down there and tried to stop it yourself? 812 00:45:16,633 --> 00:45:18,760 No, we never went to stop it at any time. 813 00:45:18,802 --> 00:45:20,929 We went there with a very positive Gospel message. 814 00:45:20,970 --> 00:45:23,723 We have done everything humanly possible 815 00:45:23,765 --> 00:45:25,725 to ban this thing and to stop it. 816 00:45:25,767 --> 00:45:27,769 Sir, can I ask you why you're here tonight? 817 00:45:27,811 --> 00:45:31,773 Because I am... recognized as a Christian. 818 00:45:31,815 --> 00:45:35,443 If I thought one of mine was in there, I'd go drag them out. 819 00:45:35,485 --> 00:45:38,822 They're outside, freezing. We're in here, we're all right. 820 00:45:42,117 --> 00:45:44,411 This one's about Harold Wilson -- 821 00:45:44,452 --> 00:45:47,080 It's called "Liar." 822 00:45:47,122 --> 00:45:48,873 # You lie, lie, lie, lie lie... # 823 00:45:48,915 --> 00:45:54,337 # Sleep in heavenly peace # 824 00:45:54,379 --> 00:45:56,840 # Should have realized... # 825 00:45:58,299 --> 00:46:00,969 On the "Anarchy" tour we was actually followed 826 00:46:01,011 --> 00:46:03,763 everywhere across the country, from gig to gig, 827 00:46:03,805 --> 00:46:07,434 and we had to turn up to show willingness to play, 828 00:46:07,475 --> 00:46:09,519 so presumably we would get the money, 829 00:46:09,561 --> 00:46:12,230 although it looked pound to a penny that they wasn't gonna let us play. 830 00:46:14,774 --> 00:46:17,944 Mr. Stabler, you can't watch punk concerts in Newcastle either? 831 00:46:17,986 --> 00:46:21,448 The decision was made when we discovered it was mere children 832 00:46:21,489 --> 00:46:23,867 that would be watching the performance. 833 00:46:23,908 --> 00:46:27,245 The average adult will go see a strip show, or a blue film. 834 00:46:27,287 --> 00:46:31,041 Banned in this town, and being banned in that town. 835 00:46:31,082 --> 00:46:34,044 And it really wasn't about us playing any more, 836 00:46:34,085 --> 00:46:37,088 it was about this controversy that we were like, 837 00:46:37,130 --> 00:46:39,841 throwing up on stage, and spitting. 838 00:46:41,176 --> 00:46:43,636 And I remember going across the Pennines, 839 00:46:43,678 --> 00:46:46,222 being followed by a fleet of press people, 840 00:46:46,264 --> 00:46:49,267 and we went to stop to get coffee and a sandwich, 841 00:46:49,351 --> 00:46:51,644 and we could hear what these press people were saying. 842 00:46:51,686 --> 00:46:53,229 One press guy said to the other, 843 00:46:53,271 --> 00:46:54,731 "Did you get anything?" and the other one said, 844 00:46:54,773 --> 00:46:57,317 "l got two 'fucks' and a 'shit' from Johnny Rotten." 845 00:46:57,359 --> 00:47:00,403 Can I now turn to Bernard Brook-Partridge in London... 846 00:47:00,445 --> 00:47:04,240 Most of these groups would be vastly improved by sudden death. 847 00:47:04,282 --> 00:47:06,951 The worst, currently, are the Sex Pistols. 848 00:47:06,993 --> 00:47:09,412 They are the antithesis of humankind... 849 00:47:10,455 --> 00:47:12,457 And the whole world would be vastly improved 850 00:47:12,499 --> 00:47:14,417 by their total and utter non-existence. 851 00:47:14,459 --> 00:47:16,836 # You're a liar # 852 00:47:18,588 --> 00:47:21,049 # Lie, lie, lie, lie... # 853 00:47:21,966 --> 00:47:25,011 The day Johnny Rotten goes back on the words he writes in his songs, 854 00:47:25,053 --> 00:47:27,222 is the day he dies. I know that for a fact. 855 00:47:27,263 --> 00:47:29,683 I think people did feel that this was... 856 00:47:29,724 --> 00:47:31,768 this was a sort of a downhill thing, 857 00:47:31,810 --> 00:47:35,021 and was a monster in our presence, and actually would, 858 00:47:35,063 --> 00:47:38,316 cause problems of image for the record industry. 859 00:47:39,359 --> 00:47:41,820 At that point, someone at EMI took the decision 860 00:47:41,861 --> 00:47:44,698 that they no longer wished to have the act on the label. 861 00:47:47,742 --> 00:47:49,703 This is about EMl. 862 00:47:51,663 --> 00:47:54,916 They're major labels with major attitudes, 863 00:47:54,958 --> 00:47:59,045 and they want everything to be fake and easily manipulative. 864 00:47:59,087 --> 00:48:02,257 And you can't be having that with people like us. 865 00:48:02,298 --> 00:48:05,844 - Let's call it chaos! - Itjust doesn't happen. 866 00:48:05,885 --> 00:48:09,222 # An unlimited supply # 867 00:48:09,264 --> 00:48:11,891 # And there is no reason why # 868 00:48:11,933 --> 00:48:14,269 They told us that they were unable 869 00:48:14,310 --> 00:48:16,521 to continue to promote the act -- 870 00:48:16,563 --> 00:48:18,398 and would we kindly leave. 871 00:48:19,941 --> 00:48:21,651 # E-M-l # 872 00:48:21,693 --> 00:48:23,528 "Let's call it chaos!" 873 00:48:23,570 --> 00:48:25,238 # E-M-l # 874 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:26,906 "Let's call it chaos!" 875 00:48:26,948 --> 00:48:28,742 # E-M-l # 876 00:48:28,783 --> 00:48:30,452 "Let's call it chaos!" 877 00:48:34,205 --> 00:48:35,623 Ouch. 878 00:48:35,665 --> 00:48:39,127 # ...With an unlimited supply # 879 00:48:39,127 --> 00:48:42,839 # That was the only reason # 880 00:48:42,881 --> 00:48:46,634 # We all had to say goodbye # 881 00:48:46,676 --> 00:48:50,430 # Unlimited supply -- E-M-l # 882 00:48:50,472 --> 00:48:53,892 # There is no reason why -- E-M-l # 883 00:48:53,933 --> 00:48:56,019 # Unlimited supply # 884 00:48:56,061 --> 00:48:57,437 # E-M-l # 885 00:48:57,479 --> 00:48:59,397 # Hello, EMI # 886 00:48:59,439 --> 00:49:02,025 # Good -- bye! # 887 00:49:03,485 --> 00:49:07,405 It started with John and Glen falling out, really. 888 00:49:07,489 --> 00:49:09,449 Over what, I don't really know, 889 00:49:09,491 --> 00:49:11,618 just a clash of personalities, et cetera. 890 00:49:11,659 --> 00:49:13,953 When you talk like an arsehole... 891 00:49:13,995 --> 00:49:16,998 and look like an arsehole, you're an arsehole. 892 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,293 There was obviously a big problem between me and John. 893 00:49:20,335 --> 00:49:22,921 I felt that once John got his face in the papers, 894 00:49:22,962 --> 00:49:25,173 he'd become a different person -- 895 00:49:25,215 --> 00:49:26,925 which I didn't particularly like. 896 00:49:26,966 --> 00:49:30,595 When we went to Holland, my last gig with them was at the Paradiso. 897 00:49:30,637 --> 00:49:33,056 I felt everybody was on my case. 898 00:49:33,098 --> 00:49:36,267 He was always complaining that we were too outrageous, 899 00:49:36,309 --> 00:49:39,479 and it's a funny thing, but he was always washing himself. 900 00:49:39,521 --> 00:49:41,523 Whenever we'd get into a hotel, 901 00:49:41,564 --> 00:49:44,651 he'd be washing his fucking feet in the sink. 902 00:49:44,693 --> 00:49:46,695 Me and Steve were like that, I suppose, 903 00:49:46,736 --> 00:49:48,697 and John always felt on the outside. 904 00:49:48,738 --> 00:49:51,324 He thought by bringing Sid in, he would have someone there, 905 00:49:51,366 --> 00:49:53,201 Iike a partner, you know? 906 00:49:53,243 --> 00:49:54,994 Someone a bit closer to him. 907 00:49:56,830 --> 00:49:58,456 I'd heard that they'd been rehearsing with Sid. 908 00:49:58,498 --> 00:50:00,667 Nobody had the courtesy to tell me. 909 00:50:06,214 --> 00:50:09,217 # I've seen you in the mirror when the story began # 910 00:50:09,259 --> 00:50:12,220 # And I fell in love with you I love your mortal sin... # 911 00:50:12,262 --> 00:50:14,514 It had become like a cartoon strip band, 912 00:50:14,556 --> 00:50:17,559 as opposed to a rock and roll band that actually plays 913 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,227 and does something for real. 914 00:50:19,269 --> 00:50:21,479 # I got no emotions for anybody else # 915 00:50:21,521 --> 00:50:24,274 # You better understand I'm in love with myself # 916 00:50:24,899 --> 00:50:28,069 Glen had reached a point where he decided 917 00:50:28,111 --> 00:50:31,698 that the band's direction was absolutely alien 918 00:50:31,740 --> 00:50:34,367 to anything he wanted to be associated with. 919 00:50:34,409 --> 00:50:36,119 That's absolute bollocks. 920 00:50:36,161 --> 00:50:39,205 I think one of Malcolm's games was, sort of divide and conquer. 921 00:50:39,247 --> 00:50:41,416 Malcolm had told John I'd said a lot of stuff 922 00:50:41,458 --> 00:50:43,543 which I hadn't said, and Malcolm had told me 923 00:50:43,585 --> 00:50:46,212 John had said a lot of stuff that he hadn't said. 924 00:50:47,297 --> 00:50:50,050 I respect him. I always did. 925 00:50:50,091 --> 00:50:52,093 He taught them to play. 926 00:50:52,093 --> 00:50:54,721 I kind of regretted him leaving... 927 00:50:54,763 --> 00:50:57,724 because Sid couldn't play a fucking note. 928 00:50:57,766 --> 00:51:00,894 # ...see his picture hanging on your wall # 929 00:51:06,107 --> 00:51:09,361 I feel guilty about Sid, 930 00:51:09,402 --> 00:51:14,074 because I wish I could have told him more... 931 00:51:14,115 --> 00:51:16,368 about what to expect. 932 00:51:18,244 --> 00:51:21,206 Well... I was getting my own group together, 933 00:51:21,289 --> 00:51:23,208 "The Flowers of Romance," 934 00:51:23,249 --> 00:51:25,835 and Rotten asked me if I wanted to join the -- 935 00:51:25,877 --> 00:51:27,837 there was this big hoo-ha, and Malcolm said, 936 00:51:27,879 --> 00:51:30,256 "lt's all a big secret, man," you know... 937 00:51:30,298 --> 00:51:33,051 "Come down to this pub at such and such and that," 938 00:51:33,093 --> 00:51:35,470 and I thought they were gonna do me over 939 00:51:35,512 --> 00:51:38,848 'cause I didn't turn up to one of Rotten's parties or something. 940 00:51:38,890 --> 00:51:41,601 He gets touchy over things like that. 941 00:51:41,643 --> 00:51:44,062 And... I went down there and he said, 942 00:51:44,104 --> 00:51:45,939 "Do you wanna play bass for the Sex Pistols?" 943 00:52:00,745 --> 00:52:03,790 # Turn the page and it's the scoop of the century # 944 00:52:03,832 --> 00:52:07,335 # Don't wanna be I seven I've had enough of this # 945 00:52:07,377 --> 00:52:10,755 # This is brainwash and this is a clue # 946 00:52:10,797 --> 00:52:14,134 # To the stars who fooled you # 947 00:52:15,510 --> 00:52:17,178 Sid was my mate. 948 00:52:17,220 --> 00:52:19,222 Very, very close mate. 949 00:52:19,264 --> 00:52:21,141 He'd just -- Iaugh at everything. 950 00:52:22,225 --> 00:52:25,729 Genius in that way, and his name was John. 951 00:52:31,151 --> 00:52:34,320 # I got you in the camera, I got you in my camera # 952 00:52:34,362 --> 00:52:37,866 # A second of your life ruined for life # 953 00:52:37,907 --> 00:52:40,744 We'd do lots of mad things together, me and Sid. 954 00:52:40,785 --> 00:52:42,996 We used to busk too, for money... 955 00:52:44,039 --> 00:52:46,374 Me with a violin, Sid with a tambourine, 956 00:52:46,416 --> 00:52:49,836 maybe a broken guitar, doing Alice Cooper songs. 957 00:52:49,878 --> 00:52:51,880 "l Love the Dead" was our favorite. 958 00:52:51,921 --> 00:52:53,923 That would get us the most money. 959 00:52:53,965 --> 00:52:56,217 "Just please shut up." 960 00:52:56,259 --> 00:52:58,345 "Here -- take the money, go somewhere else." 961 00:53:04,017 --> 00:53:07,270 Why dost thou spit -- at me? 962 00:53:10,231 --> 00:53:14,194 The best time of the band of all was when Sid firstjoined, 963 00:53:14,235 --> 00:53:17,739 and he was really determined to learn the bass 964 00:53:17,781 --> 00:53:19,366 and fit in and be part of the band. 965 00:53:19,407 --> 00:53:21,659 He definitely looked great, Sid... 966 00:53:21,701 --> 00:53:24,329 Yeah, he definitely was a face. A real laugh. 967 00:53:24,371 --> 00:53:26,706 He used to take the piss out of Rotten. 968 00:53:26,748 --> 00:53:28,875 All I did was cash in on the fact 969 00:53:28,917 --> 00:53:31,836 that I'm good-looking, and I have a good figure, 970 00:53:31,878 --> 00:53:33,838 and girls like me. 971 00:53:33,922 --> 00:53:37,676 What do they want, a fucking angel in flares and an anorak? 972 00:53:37,717 --> 00:53:39,928 'Cause if they want that... 973 00:53:39,969 --> 00:53:42,555 that ain't me, baby. 974 00:53:45,141 --> 00:53:47,310 Found myself in this rather curious little shop, 975 00:53:47,352 --> 00:53:49,771 in the company of Johnny Rotten, Sid Vicious, 976 00:53:49,813 --> 00:53:52,524 and other assorted Sex Pistols. 977 00:53:52,565 --> 00:53:53,900 Hello, Mr. Nimmo. 978 00:54:00,865 --> 00:54:03,034 And the last they heard, a donkey had him cornered 979 00:54:03,076 --> 00:54:04,661 up a back alley in Fulham. 980 00:54:07,831 --> 00:54:10,667 After EMI dumped the Sex Pistols, 981 00:54:10,709 --> 00:54:12,585 A&M Records picked them up, 982 00:54:12,627 --> 00:54:14,921 and staged a contract signing ceremony 983 00:54:14,963 --> 00:54:16,923 in front of Buckingham Palace. 984 00:54:16,965 --> 00:54:19,884 Malcolm was honest in one respect... 985 00:54:19,926 --> 00:54:23,722 That he always said he had no control over us. 986 00:54:23,763 --> 00:54:25,390 And he didn't. 987 00:54:25,432 --> 00:54:28,893 And a bloody good punch-up, in a limo, 988 00:54:28,935 --> 00:54:33,398 before a signing was not really unusual. 989 00:54:34,482 --> 00:54:36,735 It was a good fight, too. 990 00:54:36,776 --> 00:54:38,778 "No, you're the biggest cunt," 991 00:54:38,820 --> 00:54:40,822 "No, you're the worst cunt," 992 00:54:40,822 --> 00:54:43,366 "No, you're the cunt," et cetera, et cetera. 993 00:54:43,408 --> 00:54:46,286 There was only one cunt I wanted to smack, 994 00:54:46,327 --> 00:54:49,080 and that was Malcolm. Then the door opened, 995 00:54:49,122 --> 00:54:51,124 and then we had to do the signing. 996 00:54:52,167 --> 00:54:54,085 At this point, the Sex Pistols, 997 00:54:54,127 --> 00:54:57,297 despite having been fired, were not exactly suffering. 998 00:54:57,339 --> 00:54:59,466 Here they were, signing a new contract 999 00:54:59,507 --> 00:55:01,259 that could make them a lot of money, 1000 00:55:01,301 --> 00:55:04,262 and they already had a song to record for A&M 1001 00:55:04,346 --> 00:55:06,473 in honor of the Queen's jubilee. 1002 00:55:06,514 --> 00:55:09,642 Sid's father was a Grenadier guard. 1003 00:55:09,684 --> 00:55:13,730 Imagine that -- Sid signing a very, very expensive contract, 1004 00:55:13,772 --> 00:55:17,901 while his old man's on guard inside the fence. 1005 00:55:17,942 --> 00:55:20,195 It was genius. 1006 00:55:22,197 --> 00:55:25,617 According to the story, after this happy signing ceremony, 1007 00:55:25,700 --> 00:55:28,995 everyone went back to the A&M offices to celebrate. 1008 00:55:30,205 --> 00:55:33,041 The four Sex Pistols apparently overcelebrated, 1009 00:55:33,083 --> 00:55:35,168 and lived up to their public image 1010 00:55:35,210 --> 00:55:37,462 of thorough obnoxiousness. 1011 00:55:37,504 --> 00:55:38,838 - How are you doing? - Get away. 1012 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,674 When we got to A&M records, 1013 00:55:40,715 --> 00:55:42,926 total bedlam broke out there as well. 1014 00:55:42,967 --> 00:55:44,719 I can't remember what happened, 1015 00:55:44,761 --> 00:55:46,638 but the secretaries were terrified, 1016 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,807 and Sid's foot was bleeding. 1017 00:55:48,848 --> 00:55:52,227 I had a black eye, Malcolm was running around, 1018 00:55:52,268 --> 00:55:54,979 Steve was flirting with all the secretaries, 1019 00:55:55,021 --> 00:55:57,982 and then we got in the car, then went to the studio, 1020 00:55:58,024 --> 00:56:00,485 where we were recording "God Save the Queen" with Chris Thomas, 1021 00:56:00,527 --> 00:56:03,697 and there's this school next door, and all the kids come running out 1022 00:56:03,738 --> 00:56:06,116 'cause we were there. And they called the police as well. 1023 00:56:06,157 --> 00:56:07,992 It was just total mad day. 1024 00:56:08,034 --> 00:56:10,036 The next day we woke up, Malcolm said, 1025 00:56:10,078 --> 00:56:12,414 "Well, A&M have fired you." 1026 00:56:14,124 --> 00:56:16,376 The anti-establishment Sex Pistols 1027 00:56:16,418 --> 00:56:18,461 called in the establishment press 1028 00:56:18,503 --> 00:56:20,380 to protest what had happened to them. 1029 00:56:20,422 --> 00:56:23,508 We feel that we're like some contagious disease. 1030 00:56:23,550 --> 00:56:25,260 When you walk in and out of a company, 1031 00:56:25,301 --> 00:56:27,345 and the guyjust gives you -- "Look... Take this money 1032 00:56:27,429 --> 00:56:29,347 and don't come back." 1033 00:56:29,389 --> 00:56:31,599 What are you supposed to think about that? 1034 00:56:31,641 --> 00:56:33,018 Have you had the money? 1035 00:56:33,059 --> 00:56:35,729 Yes, they gave us the check last night. 1036 00:56:35,770 --> 00:56:38,398 Makes it very clear where their heads are at... 1037 00:56:39,274 --> 00:56:40,108 Nowhere. 1038 00:56:40,150 --> 00:56:43,236 We weren't the nice boys they thought we were. 1039 00:56:43,278 --> 00:56:45,321 We aren't nice boys. 1040 00:56:45,363 --> 00:56:48,158 We were fucking nasty little bastards. 1041 00:56:49,909 --> 00:56:51,453 And we still are. 1042 00:56:52,620 --> 00:56:54,122 Virgin Records signed them, 1043 00:56:54,164 --> 00:56:55,707 and Johnny Rotten got to record 1044 00:56:55,790 --> 00:56:58,001 his Queen's jubilee memorial song -- 1045 00:56:58,043 --> 00:56:59,919 "God Save the Queen." 1046 00:57:01,463 --> 00:57:03,506 You don't write "God Save the Queen" 1047 00:57:03,548 --> 00:57:06,259 because you hate the English race. 1048 00:57:06,301 --> 00:57:09,304 You write a song like that because you love them, 1049 00:57:09,346 --> 00:57:12,807 and you're fed up with them being mistreated. 1050 00:57:32,702 --> 00:57:35,622 # God save the Queen # 1051 00:57:35,663 --> 00:57:37,707 # The fascist regime # 1052 00:57:39,417 --> 00:57:41,628 # They made you a moron # 1053 00:57:42,796 --> 00:57:44,964 # Potential H-bomb # 1054 00:57:45,965 --> 00:57:47,634 # God save the Queen # 1055 00:57:49,094 --> 00:57:51,304 # She ain't no human being # 1056 00:57:52,681 --> 00:57:54,724 # There is no future # 1057 00:57:56,017 --> 00:57:59,354 # ln England's dreamin' # 1058 00:57:59,396 --> 00:58:02,482 # Don't be told what you want # 1059 00:58:02,524 --> 00:58:05,985 # Don't be told what you need # 1060 00:58:06,027 --> 00:58:09,406 # There's no future, no future # 1061 00:58:09,447 --> 00:58:12,617 # No future for you # 1062 00:58:12,659 --> 00:58:14,536 # God save the Queen # 1063 00:58:16,079 --> 00:58:18,123 # We mean it, man # 1064 00:58:19,249 --> 00:58:21,418 # We love our Queen # 1065 00:58:22,711 --> 00:58:24,421 # God saves # 1066 00:58:26,381 --> 00:58:28,299 # God save the Queen # 1067 00:58:29,551 --> 00:58:31,511 # 'Cause tourists are money # 1068 00:58:33,013 --> 00:58:34,889 # Our figurehead... # 1069 00:58:37,392 --> 00:58:40,103 Shall I be plain? I wish the bastards dead. 1070 00:58:40,145 --> 00:58:42,022 # Oh, God save history # 1071 00:58:43,148 --> 00:58:45,025 # God save the mad parade # 1072 00:58:46,484 --> 00:58:49,821 # Oh, Lord God have mercy # 1073 00:58:49,863 --> 00:58:52,866 # All crimes are paid # 1074 00:58:52,907 --> 00:58:56,453 # When there's no future how can there be sin # 1075 00:58:56,494 --> 00:58:59,873 # We're the flowers in your dustbin # 1076 00:58:59,914 --> 00:59:03,251 # We're the poison in your human machine # 1077 00:59:03,293 --> 00:59:06,671 # We're the future -- your future # 1078 00:59:06,713 --> 00:59:08,673 # God save the Queen # 1079 00:59:09,841 --> 00:59:11,926 # We mean it, man # 1080 00:59:13,345 --> 00:59:15,513 # We love our Queen # 1081 00:59:16,556 --> 00:59:18,475 # God saves # 1082 00:59:26,941 --> 00:59:29,527 I really don't think what he was singing about was outrageous. 1083 00:59:29,569 --> 00:59:32,364 He's not saying "Let's kill her," or "Let's fuck her." 1084 00:59:32,405 --> 00:59:34,908 He was pointing out what the truth was. 1085 00:59:35,784 --> 00:59:37,285 # God save the Queen # 1086 00:59:38,870 --> 00:59:40,872 # We mean it, man # 1087 00:59:42,457 --> 00:59:44,292 # There is no future # 1088 00:59:45,377 --> 00:59:47,796 # ln England's dreaming # 1089 00:59:49,381 --> 00:59:52,676 # No future # 1090 00:59:52,717 --> 00:59:55,762 # No future # 1091 00:59:55,804 --> 01:00:00,183 # No future for you # 1092 01:00:02,769 --> 01:00:06,231 # No future # 1093 01:00:06,314 --> 01:00:09,567 # No future # 1094 01:00:09,609 --> 01:00:14,781 # No future for me # 1095 01:00:14,823 --> 01:00:16,491 Chop off his head, man. 1096 01:00:16,533 --> 01:00:19,994 # No future # 1097 01:00:19,994 --> 01:00:23,331 # No future # 1098 01:00:23,373 --> 01:00:28,253 # No future for you # 1099 01:00:28,294 --> 01:00:30,463 # No future # 1100 01:00:30,505 --> 01:00:33,383 # No future for you # 1101 01:00:40,807 --> 01:00:43,476 It alienated the entire country. 1102 01:00:43,518 --> 01:00:46,604 If they'd have hung us at traitor's gate, 1103 01:00:46,646 --> 01:00:49,941 it would have been applauded by 56 million. 1104 01:00:53,862 --> 01:00:57,240 You can't beat that, man. That's National Gallery status. 1105 01:00:59,117 --> 01:01:01,578 It's raining silver in "The Sun" this week. 1106 01:01:03,038 --> 01:01:04,914 "God Save the Queen" 1107 01:01:04,956 --> 01:01:08,168 was the alternative national anthem. 1108 01:01:09,878 --> 01:01:12,172 What we offered to England... 1109 01:01:12,213 --> 01:01:13,340 was... 1110 01:01:15,508 --> 01:01:18,219 a pivotal point. We were the maypole 1111 01:01:18,261 --> 01:01:20,472 that they danced around. 1112 01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:26,770 # Go away, I hate you, hate you, hate you # 1113 01:01:26,811 --> 01:01:30,607 # Go away, I hate you, far across the sea # 1114 01:01:35,945 --> 01:01:38,907 Where better to celebrate the release of "God Save the Queen" 1115 01:01:38,948 --> 01:01:41,076 than down the Thames, and start playing 1116 01:01:41,117 --> 01:01:42,410 outside the Houses of Parliament? 1117 01:01:42,452 --> 01:01:46,289 "God Save the Queen," and "Anarchy in the UK" on Jubilee Day. 1118 01:01:48,833 --> 01:01:51,127 I just wanted out of the country -- 1119 01:01:51,169 --> 01:01:53,254 and there was no way out. 1120 01:01:56,341 --> 01:01:58,718 Ever get the feeling you've been trapped? 1121 01:02:00,303 --> 01:02:02,263 This is obscene, the whole thing. 1122 01:02:03,556 --> 01:02:05,016 All of this, it's bullshit. 1123 01:02:06,518 --> 01:02:09,020 Well, I've had enough of your bullshit. 1124 01:02:09,729 --> 01:02:11,898 I'm too cold now. I'm going back downstairs. 1125 01:02:13,108 --> 01:02:15,735 I loved it. I was getting my 20 quid a week, 1126 01:02:15,777 --> 01:02:17,487 thinking everything was great. 1127 01:02:17,529 --> 01:02:20,031 I didn't wanna fucking deal with the business side of it, 1128 01:02:20,073 --> 01:02:21,783 I didn't really question it. 1129 01:02:21,825 --> 01:02:24,369 I was McLaren's friend before the band, 1130 01:02:24,452 --> 01:02:26,996 so I trusted McLaren like a friend. 1131 01:02:42,178 --> 01:02:45,432 # Too many problems why am I here # 1132 01:02:45,473 --> 01:02:48,768 # Don't need to be me 'cause you're all too clear # 1133 01:02:48,810 --> 01:02:52,397 # I can see there's something wrong with you # 1134 01:02:52,439 --> 01:02:55,483 # But what do you expect me to do? # 1135 01:02:55,525 --> 01:02:58,987 # At least I gotta know what I wanna be # 1136 01:02:58,987 --> 01:03:02,574 # Don't come to me if you need pity # 1137 01:03:02,615 --> 01:03:06,119 # Are you lonely you got no one # 1138 01:03:06,161 --> 01:03:09,539 # You get your body in suspension # 1139 01:03:09,581 --> 01:03:11,958 # That's no problem # 1140 01:03:13,126 --> 01:03:15,378 # Problems # 1141 01:03:16,629 --> 01:03:21,134 # Problems the problem is you # 1142 01:03:21,176 --> 01:03:23,762 The reason we're here is because it's the Sex Pistols. 1143 01:03:23,803 --> 01:03:26,222 If it wasn't the Sex Pistols there'd be no interest in this, 1144 01:03:26,264 --> 01:03:27,891 in this... boat tonight. 1145 01:03:27,932 --> 01:03:31,394 Look, we've got Richard Branson looking like "Catweazel." 1146 01:03:34,064 --> 01:03:36,816 # They know a doctor gonna take you away # 1147 01:03:36,858 --> 01:03:40,362 # They take you away and throw away the key # 1148 01:03:40,403 --> 01:03:43,406 # They don't want you and they don't want me # 1149 01:03:43,448 --> 01:03:46,701 # You got a problem... # 1150 01:03:48,244 --> 01:03:49,871 What happened to Malcolm? 1151 01:03:51,706 --> 01:03:54,584 # Problems, problems # 1152 01:03:54,626 --> 01:03:57,337 # Problems, problems # 1153 01:03:57,379 --> 01:03:59,255 # Problems, problems... # 1154 01:04:04,552 --> 01:04:07,222 # Problems... problems... # 1155 01:04:10,850 --> 01:04:13,019 # Problems... problems. # 1156 01:04:16,064 --> 01:04:19,067 We declared war on england... 1157 01:04:19,109 --> 01:04:22,320 without meaning to. 1158 01:04:22,362 --> 01:04:25,156 At eight, the Muppets' "Halfway Down the Stairs," 1159 01:04:25,198 --> 01:04:27,742 at seven, the Alessi Brothers and "O, Lori," 1160 01:04:27,784 --> 01:04:30,245 at number six, Emerson, Lake and Palmer 1161 01:04:30,286 --> 01:04:32,247 and "Fanfare for the Common Man," 1162 01:04:32,288 --> 01:04:34,457 at five, The Electric Light Orchestra, "Phone Line," 1163 01:04:34,499 --> 01:04:36,543 four -- Stranglers and "Peaches," 1164 01:04:36,584 --> 01:04:38,336 three -- Queen, "Lover Boy," 1165 01:04:38,378 --> 01:04:40,797 and two, Eagles, "Hotel California," 1166 01:04:40,839 --> 01:04:43,341 the Sex Pistols' current record "God Save the Queen" 1167 01:04:43,383 --> 01:04:45,552 is at number one in the Capital Hit Line today. 1168 01:04:45,593 --> 01:04:48,763 But the IBA, which administers the broadcasting act 1169 01:04:48,805 --> 01:04:51,808 has advised us that particularly at this time, 1170 01:04:51,850 --> 01:04:54,227 this record is likely to cause offense 1171 01:04:54,269 --> 01:04:56,021 to a number of our listeners, 1172 01:04:56,062 --> 01:04:58,898 and have asked us not to play it in our normal programming. 1173 01:04:58,940 --> 01:05:01,401 "God Save the Queen" was never number one. 1174 01:05:01,443 --> 01:05:04,029 There was no number one that week. 1175 01:05:06,573 --> 01:05:09,075 Whatever we were saying and doing 1176 01:05:09,117 --> 01:05:12,871 really hit a nerve, a raw nerve. 1177 01:05:12,912 --> 01:05:15,081 It was fucked up. 1178 01:05:15,123 --> 01:05:17,709 I still had to bunk on the subways, 1179 01:05:17,751 --> 01:05:19,544 couldn't afford a cab, 1180 01:05:19,586 --> 01:05:23,465 and all of that the management didn't want to deal with. 1181 01:05:23,506 --> 01:05:26,259 Completely from there on in, 1182 01:05:26,301 --> 01:05:28,428 walking around the streets of London 1183 01:05:28,470 --> 01:05:30,638 on my own, was impossible. 1184 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,641 I would be attacked on sight. 1185 01:05:34,267 --> 01:05:37,854 You felt like a werewolf being, like hounded. 1186 01:05:40,482 --> 01:05:43,860 Constantly in fear of your life, really. 1187 01:05:46,571 --> 01:05:48,782 "God Save the Queen", eh, John? 1188 01:05:57,123 --> 01:06:00,752 I got a machete blade ripped down this leg, 1189 01:06:00,794 --> 01:06:04,255 and the blade stuck in my kneecap... 1190 01:06:04,339 --> 01:06:06,549 and they couldn't pull it out, 1191 01:06:06,591 --> 01:06:08,968 so I had to like, walk off with that. 1192 01:06:09,010 --> 01:06:12,639 I got a stiletto blade through my wrist here, 1193 01:06:12,681 --> 01:06:17,102 Iucky not to have had one of my eyes gouged out, 1194 01:06:17,185 --> 01:06:19,854 'cause a bottle was shoved in here. 1195 01:06:19,896 --> 01:06:21,314 Got to the hospital... 1196 01:06:21,356 --> 01:06:23,983 first thing they do is call the police. 1197 01:06:24,025 --> 01:06:29,489 And I get arrested for "suspicion of causing an affray." 1198 01:06:29,531 --> 01:06:32,409 And the telephone call from the editor... 1199 01:06:32,450 --> 01:06:36,162 who would say, "Malcolm, we'll print anything, 1200 01:06:36,204 --> 01:06:38,373 'cause you sell more papers 1201 01:06:38,415 --> 01:06:40,667 than we ever did on Armistice Day." 1202 01:06:40,959 --> 01:06:44,212 It's 7:00 on Wednesday, the 1 7th of August. 1203 01:06:44,254 --> 01:06:47,298 Elvis Presley, at one time known to millions 1204 01:06:47,340 --> 01:06:49,009 as "The King of Rock and Roll," 1205 01:06:49,050 --> 01:06:51,428 has died suddenly at the age of 42. 1206 01:06:51,469 --> 01:06:53,680 The king of rock and roll died yesterday. 1207 01:06:53,722 --> 01:06:56,558 He was found face down on a bathroom floor. 1208 01:06:56,599 --> 01:06:58,351 There had been numerous reports 1209 01:06:58,393 --> 01:07:00,603 that Presley was a heavy drug user. 1210 01:07:00,645 --> 01:07:02,355 All that time when Malcolm was saying, 1211 01:07:02,397 --> 01:07:05,191 "We can't get gigs in the UK," we could have played abroad. 1212 01:07:05,233 --> 01:07:07,861 We could have fucking done that, couldn't we, Julien? 1213 01:07:07,902 --> 01:07:11,990 Who needs the fucking UK? It's a load offucking shit. 1214 01:07:13,825 --> 01:07:16,786 Got a lot of wax in my ears today. 1215 01:07:17,328 --> 01:07:19,873 So we were left doing nothing. I was just sitting there, 1216 01:07:19,914 --> 01:07:22,542 with -- Iike, we didn't even fucking rehearse, 1217 01:07:22,584 --> 01:07:25,045 nobody wanted to fucking rehearse or do anything. 1218 01:07:25,086 --> 01:07:28,548 So, like, you know -- it's a logical conclusion, 1219 01:07:28,590 --> 01:07:30,800 d'you know what I mean? Boredom... 1220 01:07:30,842 --> 01:07:35,513 And, like, I'm that way inclined so what do I turn to? 1221 01:07:35,555 --> 01:07:38,183 No, I couldn't take them off. 1222 01:07:38,475 --> 01:07:41,394 My nose is broken, I'm keeping them on. 1223 01:07:41,436 --> 01:07:44,856 And she showed up with Sid, and I was thinking, 1224 01:07:44,939 --> 01:07:48,735 "Who the fuck is this cunt? This is an 'orrible person." 1225 01:07:48,777 --> 01:07:50,737 It was like, the weirdest thing... 1226 01:07:50,779 --> 01:07:53,990 I'd never felt such a negative energy from someone. 1227 01:07:54,032 --> 01:07:56,659 There was just a dark cloud... 1228 01:07:56,701 --> 01:07:59,454 Over this bird, and I fucking hated her. 1229 01:07:59,496 --> 01:08:02,040 The first time I came across Nancy, 1230 01:08:02,123 --> 01:08:04,501 I think Steve was shagging her in the toilet. 1231 01:08:04,542 --> 01:08:06,920 I didn't like her. 1232 01:08:06,961 --> 01:08:10,090 Nancy was a hooker... 1233 01:08:10,131 --> 01:08:14,344 That was on the coattails of the "New York Dolls." 1234 01:08:16,096 --> 01:08:19,474 And I actually introduced her to Sid. 1235 01:08:19,516 --> 01:08:21,768 Shame on me. 1236 01:08:23,228 --> 01:08:26,606 In New York I was dancing without any clothes on. 1237 01:08:26,648 --> 01:08:29,109 I used to go down to the guys and dance in front of them, 1238 01:08:29,150 --> 01:08:31,027 and then get tips off them, 1239 01:08:31,069 --> 01:08:32,862 and you'd do a little hand job, you know, 1240 01:08:32,904 --> 01:08:35,407 for... ten bucks, or they wanted to fuck. 1241 01:08:36,825 --> 01:08:38,785 I just -- you know... 1242 01:08:39,994 --> 01:08:42,580 did it, you know, I just -- 1243 01:08:42,622 --> 01:08:44,332 there wasn't really anything to it, 1244 01:08:44,374 --> 01:08:47,043 I just give good blowjobs. 1245 01:08:49,587 --> 01:08:51,923 "lt'll rip your balls off." 1246 01:08:51,965 --> 01:08:54,426 I read the first Sex Pistols review, 1247 01:08:54,467 --> 01:08:56,928 which was shit, and I said, "l gotta get over there." 1248 01:08:57,012 --> 01:08:59,806 I wanted to see something exciting. 1249 01:09:00,390 --> 01:09:05,311 Nancy, as his heroin dealer/ girlfriend... 1250 01:09:05,353 --> 01:09:10,233 Was pumping him up with gear every chance she could get. 1251 01:09:10,275 --> 01:09:12,777 He didn't like me 'cause I was ajunkie. 1252 01:09:12,819 --> 01:09:15,947 He tried to keep me and Sid apart for months, 1253 01:09:15,989 --> 01:09:17,824 months, months. 1254 01:09:17,866 --> 01:09:20,827 Everyone knows when a bird starts poking her nose 1255 01:09:20,869 --> 01:09:23,621 into a rock and roll band, that it's suicidal. 1256 01:09:23,663 --> 01:09:26,082 'Cause that's when he really started getting fucked up, 1257 01:09:26,124 --> 01:09:28,084 and not caring about playing. 1258 01:09:28,126 --> 01:09:29,878 And I didn't want anything to do with her. 1259 01:09:29,919 --> 01:09:31,880 We did everything to get rid of Nancy 1260 01:09:31,921 --> 01:09:34,090 that was physically possible. 1261 01:09:34,132 --> 01:09:36,134 I even dangled her 1262 01:09:36,217 --> 01:09:39,429 out of a window one night, by her ankles. 1263 01:09:39,471 --> 01:09:42,140 And the rest of the band hated me... 1264 01:09:42,182 --> 01:09:44,517 'cause I was with the New York Dolls -- 1265 01:09:44,559 --> 01:09:46,644 Johnny and Jerry, and they were junkies. 1266 01:09:46,686 --> 01:09:48,355 # Fix # 1267 01:09:48,396 --> 01:09:50,732 # My baby... # 1268 01:09:56,738 --> 01:09:59,074 They definitely brought a lot of heroin around, too. 1269 01:09:59,115 --> 01:10:02,327 And I know Sid was totally into Johnny Thunders. 1270 01:10:02,369 --> 01:10:04,454 I like the New York Dolls, 1271 01:10:04,496 --> 01:10:08,166 'cause they were nasty and mean, and they wore makeup, 1272 01:10:08,208 --> 01:10:09,834 and they didn't give a shit. 1273 01:10:09,876 --> 01:10:12,128 And they played godawful rock and roll. 1274 01:10:12,170 --> 01:10:14,881 And they had good names, and good hairdos. 1275 01:10:14,923 --> 01:10:17,258 It definitely had a big effect on me. 1276 01:10:17,300 --> 01:10:19,219 I thought he was the coolest thing ever -- 1277 01:10:19,260 --> 01:10:20,970 Thunders, at that time. 1278 01:10:21,012 --> 01:10:23,014 I started stealing some of his stances, 1279 01:10:23,098 --> 01:10:25,266 and his looks, and, you know, his moves on stage. 1280 01:10:25,308 --> 01:10:27,852 I look back at it now, and I'm embarrassed 1281 01:10:27,936 --> 01:10:30,397 at how much I fucking was trying to copy him. 1282 01:10:30,438 --> 01:10:33,066 I didn't need to do that. I had my own thing already. 1283 01:10:33,108 --> 01:10:35,735 My invention to the Sex Pistols 1284 01:10:35,777 --> 01:10:37,570 was the hanky on the head. 1285 01:10:38,488 --> 01:10:41,574 It was kind offunny, actually, when I used to see fans doing it, 1286 01:10:41,616 --> 01:10:44,119 I thought, "Oh, look, they're doing something I invented." 1287 01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,204 Cunt, shit, bollocks. 1288 01:10:46,246 --> 01:10:48,164 Bill Grundy's a poof! 1289 01:10:48,206 --> 01:10:50,959 Because I've made my self-esteem rise an inch. 1290 01:10:52,377 --> 01:10:55,588 Leatherjackets came with the heroin. 1291 01:10:55,630 --> 01:10:59,759 Vampirish goth look came with the heroin. 1292 01:10:59,801 --> 01:11:02,095 This ruined Sid... 1293 01:11:02,137 --> 01:11:04,514 Here, want one of these? 1294 01:11:04,556 --> 01:11:07,434 Because he was a complete gullible fashion victim. 1295 01:11:08,309 --> 01:11:11,896 Sid went straight into the worst kind of rock and roll idiot 1296 01:11:11,938 --> 01:11:14,441 you could ever hope to have a nightmare about. 1297 01:11:15,984 --> 01:11:18,570 He didn't get that what we were doing was -- 1298 01:11:18,611 --> 01:11:20,989 Who wants some safety pins? 1299 01:11:21,031 --> 01:11:23,199 Our culture, our life. 1300 01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:26,745 Who else wants something? 1301 01:11:26,828 --> 01:11:29,330 Come on if you want something, you cunts! 1302 01:11:31,541 --> 01:11:35,211 Alls I can tell you is yes, I can take on England, 1303 01:11:35,253 --> 01:11:38,256 but I couldn't take on one heroin addict. 1304 01:11:38,340 --> 01:11:41,051 Oh, look, Sid. 1305 01:11:44,387 --> 01:11:47,223 At a time where we should have been the tightest, 1306 01:11:47,265 --> 01:11:49,642 it couldn't be looser. 1307 01:11:56,107 --> 01:11:59,444 # There's no point in asking, you'll get no reply # 1308 01:11:59,486 --> 01:12:02,947 # Oh, just remember I don't decide # 1309 01:12:03,031 --> 01:12:06,201 # I got no reason, it's all too much # 1310 01:12:06,242 --> 01:12:09,037 # You'll always find us # 1311 01:12:11,081 --> 01:12:13,166 # Out to lunch # 1312 01:12:15,168 --> 01:12:18,421 # We're so pretty, oh, so pretty # 1313 01:12:19,714 --> 01:12:21,758 # We're vacant # 1314 01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,010 It's a pity in a way. All these rich kids... 1315 01:12:24,052 --> 01:12:27,389 Becoming punks. I find that revolting. 1316 01:12:27,430 --> 01:12:29,182 It's like an army now, 1317 01:12:29,224 --> 01:12:32,435 a faction -- chic. 1318 01:12:32,477 --> 01:12:34,437 I'm not chic. 1319 01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,940 I could never be chic. 1320 01:12:36,981 --> 01:12:39,150 I was in it from its inception. 1321 01:12:39,192 --> 01:12:42,570 # There's no point in asking, you'll get no reply # 1322 01:12:42,612 --> 01:12:46,157 # Just remember I don't decide # 1323 01:12:46,241 --> 01:12:47,409 The punks ruined it... 1324 01:12:47,450 --> 01:12:51,871 They adopted a uniform image in attitude, 1325 01:12:51,913 --> 01:12:55,834 and the whole thing was about being yourself. 1326 01:12:58,211 --> 01:13:01,715 # We're so pretty, oh, so pretty... # 1327 01:13:01,756 --> 01:13:04,676 # Ah... vacant # 1328 01:13:05,301 --> 01:13:09,055 The cliche punk look which became the postcard punk 1329 01:13:09,097 --> 01:13:12,017 with a Mohican, and all black, with spiky hair and all that. 1330 01:13:12,058 --> 01:13:13,977 It was never like that to start with. 1331 01:13:14,019 --> 01:13:16,146 They didn't have the money 1332 01:13:16,187 --> 01:13:18,106 to go out and buy a 50 quid leatherjacket 1333 01:13:18,148 --> 01:13:21,067 it was very much a do-it-yourself kind of thing, you know? 1334 01:13:22,235 --> 01:13:24,404 # ...and we don't care # 1335 01:13:26,656 --> 01:13:28,825 And all those garbage, trashy bands -- 1336 01:13:28,867 --> 01:13:31,411 basically all saying, "Yeah, we're a punk band," 1337 01:13:31,453 --> 01:13:36,124 wrecked it outright. It became acceptable -- 1338 01:13:36,166 --> 01:13:38,710 absorbed back into the system. 1339 01:13:38,752 --> 01:13:40,795 The shitstem. 1340 01:13:43,965 --> 01:13:46,426 # We're pretty... # 1341 01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:48,345 # Pretty vacant # 1342 01:13:48,386 --> 01:13:49,304 I'm a punk! 1343 01:13:49,346 --> 01:13:52,015 # And we don't care! # 1344 01:13:56,603 --> 01:13:58,563 Mummy, mummy, come quick! 1345 01:13:59,856 --> 01:14:01,483 They've killed Bambi! 1346 01:14:03,234 --> 01:14:05,695 "Who killed Bambi" was Malcolm's idea. 1347 01:14:05,737 --> 01:14:09,115 We were musicians. We didn't want to make a film. 1348 01:14:10,367 --> 01:14:13,328 Malcolm was very good at spending other people's money. 1349 01:14:13,370 --> 01:14:15,663 But there was a load being put into the film 1350 01:14:15,705 --> 01:14:18,458 from the band's royalties, which we didn't know about. 1351 01:14:21,461 --> 01:14:24,381 I rememberjust turning up to do a scene... 1352 01:14:24,422 --> 01:14:26,633 there was this guy there, I thought, "Oh, he looks familiar..." 1353 01:14:26,675 --> 01:14:29,302 Do you know the way to Hindley Airfield, mate? 1354 01:14:29,344 --> 01:14:31,137 And I said, "l know you from somewhere," 1355 01:14:31,179 --> 01:14:32,847 and it was Sting. 1356 01:14:32,889 --> 01:14:35,892 It was his motion picture debut, I believe. 1357 01:14:35,934 --> 01:14:38,603 So it's flying lessons you're after, is it? 1358 01:14:39,854 --> 01:14:44,401 Well, you've come to the right place, Sex Pistol. 1359 01:14:44,442 --> 01:14:46,569 Be advised, drummer boy... 1360 01:14:46,611 --> 01:14:50,281 We're the sensational new Blow Waves, 1361 01:14:50,323 --> 01:14:52,659 and we know how to sell more records 1362 01:14:52,701 --> 01:14:54,828 than Malcolm McLaren. 1363 01:14:54,869 --> 01:14:56,996 And I knew that it was just trash, 1364 01:14:57,038 --> 01:15:00,417 rubbishing the whole point and purpose. 1365 01:15:00,458 --> 01:15:02,961 We believe in rock and roll, 1366 01:15:03,003 --> 01:15:05,755 and we don't need you, Sex Pistol. 1367 01:15:05,797 --> 01:15:07,799 The record companies know 1368 01:15:07,841 --> 01:15:09,718 that our music means more to them 1369 01:15:09,759 --> 01:15:12,178 than your sick anarchy ever did. 1370 01:15:12,220 --> 01:15:14,014 Get out of my car, you cunts! 1371 01:15:14,055 --> 01:15:16,141 He used to really get the hump, McLaren, 1372 01:15:16,182 --> 01:15:18,018 when we started asking for money, 1373 01:15:18,059 --> 01:15:19,728 so I stopped asking for it. 1374 01:15:19,769 --> 01:15:22,272 We never had our own lawyer, which is insanity. 1375 01:15:22,313 --> 01:15:25,817 That's the closest thing to being in one of these boy bands -- 1376 01:15:25,900 --> 01:15:28,194 is that they all get reamed, 1377 01:15:28,236 --> 01:15:31,322 and we were getting reamed in that department. 1378 01:15:31,364 --> 01:15:34,451 How can you be a Sex Pistol with no money? 1379 01:15:34,492 --> 01:15:37,912 You ring the office, you get zero response, 1380 01:15:37,954 --> 01:15:40,999 your checks weren't paid, 1381 01:15:41,041 --> 01:15:45,378 no rent, no earnings, a complete disaster. 1382 01:15:45,420 --> 01:15:49,883 It was wonderful. "God Save the Queen"! 1383 01:15:49,924 --> 01:15:52,552 It was a monkey's tea party. 1384 01:15:52,594 --> 01:15:55,055 What the fuck was the manager doing? 1385 01:15:55,096 --> 01:15:58,516 The one that claimed that he was manipulating everything -- 1386 01:15:58,558 --> 01:16:01,019 manipulated nothing. 1387 01:16:01,061 --> 01:16:03,563 He was clueless at that point. 1388 01:16:03,605 --> 01:16:05,940 Once we said, "We're fucking leaving the group 1389 01:16:05,982 --> 01:16:09,402 unless you fucking get us some gigs, you stupid little cunt," 1390 01:16:09,444 --> 01:16:11,780 he got something together the next day. 1391 01:16:11,821 --> 01:16:13,948 Well, he could have done that all the time. 1392 01:16:13,990 --> 01:16:17,869 "Spots" was a good one -- Sex Pistols on tour. 1393 01:16:17,911 --> 01:16:20,497 But I thought it was dreadful that we had to, like, 1394 01:16:20,538 --> 01:16:23,917 not be ourselves, and go under secret monikers. 1395 01:16:23,958 --> 01:16:27,128 I'm a Sex Pistol, and that's it. 1396 01:16:33,009 --> 01:16:35,679 And we just did these secret gigs in the small clubs, 1397 01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:38,932 and it was just packed with fans who'd never seen us. 1398 01:16:38,973 --> 01:16:40,684 And they were like the best shows, man. 1399 01:16:40,725 --> 01:16:42,602 They were fucking great. 1400 01:16:49,776 --> 01:16:52,779 # A cheap holiday in other people's misery # 1401 01:16:59,077 --> 01:17:02,163 # I don't want a holiday in the sun # 1402 01:17:02,205 --> 01:17:05,417 # I wanna go to the new Belsen # 1403 01:17:05,458 --> 01:17:08,545 # I wanna see some history # 1404 01:17:08,586 --> 01:17:11,548 # 'Cause now I got a reasonable economy # 1405 01:17:11,589 --> 01:17:14,968 # Now I got a reason, now I got a reason # 1406 01:17:15,010 --> 01:17:18,346 # Now I got a reason, and I'm still waiting # 1407 01:17:18,388 --> 01:17:21,474 # Now I got a reason, now I got a reason # 1408 01:17:21,516 --> 01:17:23,977 # To be waiting # 1409 01:17:23,977 --> 01:17:26,438 # The berlin wall # 1410 01:17:34,404 --> 01:17:38,700 I thought "Holidays in the Sun" was our crowning glory. 1411 01:17:41,369 --> 01:17:44,789 # Sensurround sound in a two-inch wall # 1412 01:17:44,831 --> 01:17:48,168 # I was waiting for the communist call # 1413 01:17:48,209 --> 01:17:51,629 # I didn't ask for sunshine and I got World War Ill # 1414 01:17:51,671 --> 01:17:55,383 # I'm looking over the wall and they're looking at me # 1415 01:17:55,425 --> 01:17:58,178 # Now I got a reason, now I got a reason # 1416 01:17:58,219 --> 01:18:01,598 # Now I got a reason, and I'm still waiting # 1417 01:18:01,639 --> 01:18:04,893 # Now I got a reason, now I got a reason # 1418 01:18:04,934 --> 01:18:06,978 # To be waiting # 1419 01:18:07,020 --> 01:18:09,314 # The Berlin Wall # 1420 01:18:22,577 --> 01:18:25,705 Huddersfield, I remember very fondly. 1421 01:18:25,747 --> 01:18:28,500 Two concerts, a matinee, 1422 01:18:28,541 --> 01:18:31,878 with children throwing pies at me, 1423 01:18:31,878 --> 01:18:36,007 and later on that night, striking union members. 1424 01:18:36,049 --> 01:18:38,510 It was heaven. 1425 01:18:38,551 --> 01:18:41,221 He wants dad back at work, 1426 01:18:41,262 --> 01:18:44,224 which I think is a very good idea, indeed. 1427 01:18:44,265 --> 01:18:46,184 It was like our Christmas party, really. 1428 01:18:46,226 --> 01:18:48,478 I remember everyone being really relaxed that day. 1429 01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:50,689 Everyone was getting on really well, 1430 01:18:50,730 --> 01:18:52,774 and everyone was in such a great mood. 1431 01:18:52,816 --> 01:18:55,026 'Cause it was a benefit for the kids 1432 01:18:55,068 --> 01:18:57,487 offiremen who were on strike around that time, 1433 01:18:57,529 --> 01:18:59,656 and who'd been on strike for a long time. 1434 01:18:59,698 --> 01:19:01,950 And I've written to Santa Claus today, 1435 01:19:01,991 --> 01:19:04,160 and I have got you a skateboard. 1436 01:19:04,202 --> 01:19:06,413 Lot of love in the house, 1437 01:19:06,454 --> 01:19:09,624 and Sid was great that day. 1438 01:19:09,666 --> 01:19:13,545 Everything about it was just wonderful. 1439 01:19:15,296 --> 01:19:19,300 Okay, gang, this party is given to you absolutely free 1440 01:19:19,342 --> 01:19:22,220 and at the expense of the Sex Pistols, 1441 01:19:22,262 --> 01:19:24,139 so let's have a big cheer for the Sex Pistols. 1442 01:19:24,180 --> 01:19:25,515 Come on, let's hear you! 1443 01:19:42,824 --> 01:19:45,744 # She was a girl from Birmingham # 1444 01:19:45,785 --> 01:19:48,830 # She just had an abortion # 1445 01:19:48,872 --> 01:19:52,125 # She was a case of insanity # 1446 01:19:52,125 --> 01:19:55,378 # Her name was pauline, she lived in a tree # 1447 01:19:55,420 --> 01:19:58,381 # She was a no one who killed her baby # 1448 01:19:58,423 --> 01:20:01,676 # She sent her letter from the country # 1449 01:20:01,718 --> 01:20:04,429 # She was an animal # 1450 01:20:04,471 --> 01:20:07,515 # She was a bloody disgrace # 1451 01:20:07,557 --> 01:20:10,310 # Body # 1452 01:20:10,310 --> 01:20:12,771 # I'm not an animal # 1453 01:20:14,189 --> 01:20:17,067 # Body # 1454 01:20:17,108 --> 01:20:19,069 # I'm not an animal # 1455 01:20:20,445 --> 01:20:22,906 It's not a question of an Ml5 blacklist, 1456 01:20:22,947 --> 01:20:25,700 there are certain groups whom we do not regard with favor, 1457 01:20:25,742 --> 01:20:28,286 and whom I personally will do everything I can 1458 01:20:28,328 --> 01:20:30,663 within the law to prevent ever coming to London again. 1459 01:20:30,705 --> 01:20:33,667 # Fuck this and fuck that # 1460 01:20:33,708 --> 01:20:37,045 # Fuck it all and fuck the fucking brat # 1461 01:20:37,087 --> 01:20:40,340 # She don't want a baby who looks like that # 1462 01:20:40,382 --> 01:20:43,551 # I don't want a baby who looks like that # 1463 01:20:43,593 --> 01:20:46,054 # Body # 1464 01:20:46,096 --> 01:20:48,139 # I'm not an animal # 1465 01:20:50,016 --> 01:20:52,977 # Body # 1466 01:20:53,019 --> 01:20:54,854 # An unborn kid # 1467 01:20:56,356 --> 01:20:58,149 # An animal # 1468 01:20:59,401 --> 01:21:01,528 # I'm not an animal # 1469 01:21:02,779 --> 01:21:04,823 # I'm not an animal, an animal # 1470 01:21:04,864 --> 01:21:07,450 # I'm not an animal I ain't no animal # 1471 01:21:09,202 --> 01:21:10,954 # I'm not a body # 1472 01:21:12,455 --> 01:21:15,208 # I'm not an animal, an animal # 1473 01:21:15,250 --> 01:21:17,752 # I ain't no an animal I'm not an animal # 1474 01:21:17,794 --> 01:21:19,587 # I'm not an animal... # 1475 01:21:19,629 --> 01:21:21,548 # Mommy! # 1476 01:21:29,931 --> 01:21:32,350 I think that was our last gig in England. 1477 01:21:33,727 --> 01:21:35,687 - Who's this? - Sex Pistols. 1478 01:21:35,729 --> 01:21:37,022 Sid Vicious? 1479 01:21:37,063 --> 01:21:38,398 Yes. 1480 01:21:38,440 --> 01:21:41,234 This is Rodney Bingenheimer from "Rodney on the Roq" show. 1481 01:21:41,234 --> 01:21:44,362 Oh, hi, man. No future. 1482 01:21:44,404 --> 01:21:47,157 Is Johnny Rotten there? 1483 01:21:47,198 --> 01:21:50,035 - Yeah. - Hey, how are you doing? 1484 01:21:50,076 --> 01:21:51,953 I'm doing all right. 1485 01:21:51,995 --> 01:21:54,748 You'll be coming to America soon, won't you? 1486 01:21:54,789 --> 01:21:57,208 Get work, move to California. 1487 01:21:57,250 --> 01:22:00,086 - Come to California - It's the best. 1488 01:22:00,086 --> 01:22:02,213 Oh, I don't know... 1489 01:22:02,255 --> 01:22:04,799 Can you get egg and chips? 1490 01:22:04,841 --> 01:22:07,344 You can do anything you want here, man. 1491 01:22:09,220 --> 01:22:11,681 No one is repressed in L.A. 1492 01:22:11,723 --> 01:22:15,226 Oh, yes you are. Mentally repressed, dear. 1493 01:22:15,268 --> 01:22:17,979 Right -- that's true. 1494 01:22:20,815 --> 01:22:23,318 This week on Don Kirshner's Rock Concert... 1495 01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:25,153 The incredible Kansas... 1496 01:22:25,195 --> 01:22:27,781 Family Funk from the Sylvers... 1497 01:22:27,822 --> 01:22:31,201 The outrageousness of the Sex Pistols. 1498 01:22:31,242 --> 01:22:34,037 Some slick dealing from Ricky Jay, 1499 01:22:34,079 --> 01:22:37,040 and funnyman Robert Aguayo. 1500 01:22:38,500 --> 01:22:40,460 We had trouble getting our visas 1501 01:22:40,460 --> 01:22:42,754 'cause we had criminal records, all of us. 1502 01:22:42,796 --> 01:22:45,298 They strip-searched us at the airport, 1503 01:22:45,340 --> 01:22:49,094 and thank god Sid was the first one they strip-searched, 1504 01:22:49,135 --> 01:22:52,764 'Cause as soon as they've seen his underwear... 1505 01:22:52,806 --> 01:22:54,933 That was it, we were safe. 1506 01:22:54,974 --> 01:22:58,812 They had no wish to play 1507 01:22:58,853 --> 01:23:01,606 with the rest of our willies after that point. 1508 01:23:01,898 --> 01:23:03,441 Across the globe 1509 01:23:03,483 --> 01:23:07,112 they achieved a notoriety in 19 languages. 1510 01:23:07,153 --> 01:23:11,116 In the city, voted "Young businessmen of the year" 1511 01:23:11,157 --> 01:23:12,951 by the lnvestors' Review. 1512 01:23:12,992 --> 01:23:15,745 On Fleet Street, they sold more papers 1513 01:23:15,787 --> 01:23:17,664 than the Armistice. 1514 01:23:17,706 --> 01:23:20,125 They didn't care about the music -- 1515 01:23:20,166 --> 01:23:22,711 they were purely into chaos. 1516 01:23:22,752 --> 01:23:24,879 Security was tight for the arrival 1517 01:23:24,921 --> 01:23:28,633 of the infamous punk rock group known as the Sex Pistols, 1518 01:23:28,675 --> 01:23:31,344 that naughty bunch of counter-culture radicals. 1519 01:23:31,386 --> 01:23:33,346 Warner records had warned 1520 01:23:33,388 --> 01:23:36,016 that the group might attack members of the American Press, 1521 01:23:36,057 --> 01:23:37,934 but when Steve Jones, Paul Cook, 1522 01:23:37,976 --> 01:23:40,520 Johnny Rotten, and Sid Vicious arrived, 1523 01:23:40,562 --> 01:23:42,856 this is what they had to say... 1524 01:23:45,108 --> 01:23:46,526 Nothing. 1525 01:23:46,985 --> 01:23:48,862 Well, coming to America... 1526 01:23:48,903 --> 01:23:51,448 was definitely a strange experience. 1527 01:23:51,489 --> 01:23:54,451 Ow-ww! Fucking kick me in the fucking balls? 1528 01:23:54,492 --> 01:23:56,161 We had, like, these bodyguards... 1529 01:23:56,202 --> 01:23:57,829 With walkie-talkies, and that... 1530 01:23:57,871 --> 01:24:01,124 Continually followed by, like, FBI 1531 01:24:01,166 --> 01:24:04,461 and fucking CIA, and 50 journalists. 1532 01:24:04,502 --> 01:24:06,463 It was kinda scary. 1533 01:24:06,504 --> 01:24:09,716 And here they are -- at least two of them -- 1534 01:24:09,716 --> 01:24:11,676 in a hotel room in Atlanta, 1535 01:24:11,718 --> 01:24:14,429 waiting for the other two to do a promised interview. 1536 01:24:14,471 --> 01:24:16,222 But they're in a strange mood... 1537 01:24:16,264 --> 01:24:19,684 Flaky -- demanding they be paid ten bucks 1538 01:24:19,726 --> 01:24:23,063 before they'll do any "bleep-bleep" interview. 1539 01:24:23,104 --> 01:24:25,273 Denied that, they stomp off. 1540 01:24:25,315 --> 01:24:27,567 "Bleep," they say. 1541 01:24:28,735 --> 01:24:31,780 When the four young men left, their spit was on the carpet, 1542 01:24:31,821 --> 01:24:33,365 their butts on the floor. 1543 01:24:33,406 --> 01:24:35,950 The dregs of an afternoon's beer and booze, 1544 01:24:35,992 --> 01:24:39,329 and a couple of empty boxes of Clearasil. 1545 01:24:39,371 --> 01:24:43,333 They left the hotel to go to a sex devices store, 1546 01:24:43,375 --> 01:24:46,711 and then to their first concert in America. 1547 01:24:51,257 --> 01:24:55,136 We didn't come from America, we didn't understand America, 1548 01:24:55,178 --> 01:24:57,597 so how the fuck could they understand us? 1549 01:24:57,597 --> 01:25:00,100 Okay, all you cowboys. 1550 01:25:00,141 --> 01:25:01,726 You faggots! 1551 01:25:01,768 --> 01:25:06,439 And I said, "You fucking motherfucking faggot cowboys." 1552 01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:09,776 They were throwing a rain of bottles and beer cans, 1553 01:25:09,818 --> 01:25:12,237 and pigs' noses, and fuck knows what. 1554 01:25:12,278 --> 01:25:14,239 Anarchy in... 1555 01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:16,616 I got a full can of beer smashed right on my lip. 1556 01:25:16,616 --> 01:25:17,992 The U-S of A. 1557 01:25:18,034 --> 01:25:20,995 Fucking big fat lip with blood dripping down it. 1558 01:25:21,037 --> 01:25:23,456 The gigs were pretty frightening, 1559 01:25:23,456 --> 01:25:26,167 'cause of all the publicity that had preceded us. 1560 01:25:26,209 --> 01:25:28,461 People were coming there just to see this freak show. 1561 01:25:28,503 --> 01:25:30,714 They thought we were gonna be sick on stage, 1562 01:25:30,755 --> 01:25:32,966 crap on stage, beat each other up, 1563 01:25:32,966 --> 01:25:35,510 kill each other -- well, it was partly true. 1564 01:25:36,594 --> 01:25:39,139 # I am an antichrist # 1565 01:25:39,180 --> 01:25:42,475 # I am an anarchist... # 1566 01:25:43,476 --> 01:25:45,478 Then Sid started beating himself, 1567 01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:49,899 cutting himself on stage, and totally being out to lunch. 1568 01:25:49,941 --> 01:25:52,152 # l... # 1569 01:25:52,193 --> 01:25:54,904 # Wanna be # 1570 01:25:54,946 --> 01:25:57,449 Birds were better looking in America, that's for sure. 1571 01:25:57,490 --> 01:25:59,325 I really enjoyed that part of it, 1572 01:25:59,325 --> 01:26:00,702 and they knew how to suck dick. 1573 01:26:00,744 --> 01:26:02,954 They learn at an early age here. 1574 01:26:04,122 --> 01:26:06,666 Sid loved the Pistols -- 1575 01:26:06,708 --> 01:26:08,668 as a fan... 1576 01:26:08,710 --> 01:26:12,547 but being on stage with us, he couldn't cope. 1577 01:26:12,589 --> 01:26:14,507 He wasn't being himself anymore, 1578 01:26:14,507 --> 01:26:16,551 he was trying to be Johnny Rotten... 1579 01:26:16,593 --> 01:26:18,720 with the drugs. 1580 01:26:18,762 --> 01:26:21,806 And that showed, I think, to my mind, very bad. 1581 01:26:25,101 --> 01:26:28,146 The fucking Texas patrolmen took me... 1582 01:26:28,229 --> 01:26:30,523 and threw me out the door. 1583 01:26:30,523 --> 01:26:32,233 And they have the authority 'cause they have a badge, 1584 01:26:32,275 --> 01:26:34,069 and they have a fucking billy club and a gun. 1585 01:26:38,114 --> 01:26:40,825 Malcolm, he liked the idea of Sid being outrageous, 1586 01:26:40,867 --> 01:26:43,453 however much it fucked things up for the band. 1587 01:26:43,495 --> 01:26:46,539 I think he encouraged him. I remember Sid saying once... 1588 01:26:46,581 --> 01:26:49,042 "He could never be outrageous enough." 1589 01:26:49,042 --> 01:26:51,002 And Malcolm's going, "Yes, yes, I agree." 1590 01:26:51,044 --> 01:26:53,338 "You can go mad, go all the way." 1591 01:26:54,714 --> 01:26:57,342 It says to me that I should do what I wanna do, you know? 1592 01:26:57,384 --> 01:26:59,636 And just fuck everybody else. 1593 01:26:59,678 --> 01:27:01,971 Just fuck everybody else, you know? Just fuck 'em. 1594 01:27:05,058 --> 01:27:06,976 They moved me, they made me shake 1595 01:27:07,018 --> 01:27:08,853 more than I've ever shook before, 1596 01:27:08,895 --> 01:27:11,106 and that's what... what makes them the best. 1597 01:27:15,902 --> 01:27:17,570 I think I heard one time that they... 1598 01:27:17,612 --> 01:27:18,905 urinated on the audience one time. 1599 01:27:18,905 --> 01:27:20,615 Why, I don't know. Itjust sounds goofy. 1600 01:27:20,657 --> 01:27:22,992 - Get outta here! - What are they saying? 1601 01:27:23,034 --> 01:27:24,828 Get outta here! 1602 01:27:24,869 --> 01:27:27,497 It's better than homework. 1603 01:27:27,539 --> 01:27:29,666 Get the fuck outta here! 1604 01:27:32,127 --> 01:27:34,004 You faggot fucker! 1605 01:27:37,048 --> 01:27:40,927 Yeah, the guy fucking tried to climb up on stage 1606 01:27:40,927 --> 01:27:42,846 and fucking attack me, 1607 01:27:42,887 --> 01:27:46,182 so I smashed his fucking brains in with my guitar. 1608 01:27:46,224 --> 01:27:48,601 He knew that I meant physical harm, 1609 01:27:48,643 --> 01:27:50,937 and I have to say I was ugly about it. 1610 01:27:50,979 --> 01:27:53,606 But he came out and hit us over the head with the bass. 1611 01:27:53,648 --> 01:27:55,442 They were great. 1612 01:27:55,483 --> 01:27:58,194 If I could only make out the words, they'd be greater. 1613 01:27:58,236 --> 01:28:00,655 That was my first time in America. 1614 01:28:00,697 --> 01:28:04,617 Sid would sit next to me, and we'd look out the window, 1615 01:28:04,659 --> 01:28:08,913 and we'd stare at that endless scenery, 1616 01:28:08,955 --> 01:28:11,708 and imagine John Wayne and the indians. 1617 01:28:11,750 --> 01:28:15,211 You wouldn't sleep. You wouldn't want to, 1618 01:28:15,253 --> 01:28:18,381 because it was so first time. 1619 01:28:27,265 --> 01:28:31,978 Steve and paul flew around America with Malcolm. 1620 01:28:31,978 --> 01:28:34,064 Steven, what kind of badge you got? 1621 01:28:34,105 --> 01:28:36,107 I don't know. Safety department. 1622 01:28:36,149 --> 01:28:37,984 Safety department. That's very good. 1623 01:28:38,026 --> 01:28:39,986 Say goodbye. Say goodbye. 1624 01:28:40,028 --> 01:28:42,322 They didn't want to be on the tour bus, 1625 01:28:42,364 --> 01:28:47,369 'cause they were "really bored with that reggae, man." 1626 01:28:48,536 --> 01:28:50,955 Steve and Paul are a pair of sheep. 1627 01:28:52,207 --> 01:28:54,793 They do what Malcolm says. 1628 01:28:54,834 --> 01:28:57,128 Sid was just looking for smack, 1629 01:28:57,170 --> 01:29:00,006 and being an idiot. Rotten got into his ego... 1630 01:29:00,048 --> 01:29:03,134 itjust got really depressing, really quick. 1631 01:29:03,176 --> 01:29:06,012 But the point is, Sid's my mate, 1632 01:29:06,054 --> 01:29:08,640 and I don't want him to be ajunkie. 1633 01:29:08,682 --> 01:29:10,975 This is why we traveled on the bus, 1634 01:29:11,017 --> 01:29:13,728 this is why Sid was to stick with me, 1635 01:29:13,770 --> 01:29:15,522 and like, the others just didn't understand. 1636 01:29:15,563 --> 01:29:18,733 They thought, "Oh, you can handle it, man." 1637 01:29:18,775 --> 01:29:20,944 But, like, dope sickness isn't like that. 1638 01:29:20,985 --> 01:29:23,196 It's not something that you can just blow away. 1639 01:29:23,238 --> 01:29:26,116 It's the worst sickness you could ever imagine. 1640 01:29:26,157 --> 01:29:29,661 He was far too young for that shit, 1641 01:29:29,703 --> 01:29:33,206 and un-american for that shit. 1642 01:29:33,248 --> 01:29:36,793 I can drink, and I can drink a druggie 1643 01:29:36,835 --> 01:29:38,878 out of being a druggie. 1644 01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:41,881 And I will do that for my friends, 1645 01:29:41,923 --> 01:29:44,759 every time, any time. 1646 01:29:44,801 --> 01:29:47,595 You can't get comfortable, and you sweat... 1647 01:29:47,637 --> 01:29:50,807 and you're boiling hot and you pour with sweat. 1648 01:29:50,849 --> 01:29:53,101 And your nose dribbles and... 1649 01:29:53,143 --> 01:29:55,395 and all of a sudden you get the colds, 1650 01:29:55,395 --> 01:29:57,564 and the sweat turns to fucking ice on you, 1651 01:29:57,605 --> 01:29:59,607 and you put ajumper on. 1652 01:29:59,649 --> 01:30:01,693 Then you're boiling hot again, and you take it off, and, like, 1653 01:30:01,735 --> 01:30:04,612 you get cold again and, like, you just can't win. 1654 01:30:04,654 --> 01:30:07,073 And you lie down, and that's not comfortable, 1655 01:30:07,073 --> 01:30:09,242 you sit up, that's not comfortable. It drives you insane. 1656 01:30:09,284 --> 01:30:11,578 I despise Sid for it, 1657 01:30:11,578 --> 01:30:16,249 and I'll despise anyone for messing with it ever since. 1658 01:30:16,291 --> 01:30:22,589 It is the only drug that really cancels out all creativity. 1659 01:30:22,630 --> 01:30:25,091 It is about self-pity. 1660 01:30:25,091 --> 01:30:29,596 It is the lowest, worst form of life. 1661 01:30:31,765 --> 01:30:33,933 Well, he wasn't even playing at the end. 1662 01:30:33,975 --> 01:30:36,061 You know, he could barely play it anyway. 1663 01:30:36,102 --> 01:30:37,771 Half the time he wasn't even plugged in. 1664 01:30:37,771 --> 01:30:39,439 It was like ajoke. It was like... 1665 01:30:39,481 --> 01:30:41,149 "What the fuck am I up here for? 1666 01:30:41,191 --> 01:30:44,694 What am I doing with this fucking, like, kind of circus?" 1667 01:30:44,736 --> 01:30:46,446 I just didn't want any part of it. 1668 01:30:46,488 --> 01:30:49,240 In the end, like, I was the only one 1669 01:30:49,282 --> 01:30:51,034 who had any anarchy left in me. 1670 01:30:51,076 --> 01:30:53,411 The rest of the band, they couldn't fucking take it. 1671 01:30:53,453 --> 01:30:57,665 And then we got to, like... Like I said, San Francisco, 1672 01:30:57,707 --> 01:31:00,627 and Malcolm's in town, 1673 01:31:00,627 --> 01:31:02,462 and Sid goes off with Malcolm, 1674 01:31:02,462 --> 01:31:05,924 suddenly Sid comes back smacked up. 1675 01:31:07,801 --> 01:31:09,636 Winterland -- the final countdown. 1676 01:31:09,678 --> 01:31:12,722 It wasn't a rock and roll party. 1677 01:31:12,764 --> 01:31:14,641 It was more like a dying horse 1678 01:31:14,683 --> 01:31:17,227 that needed putting out of its misery. 1679 01:31:18,269 --> 01:31:20,647 But Malcolm saw it more as a media circus. 1680 01:31:20,689 --> 01:31:22,941 He didn't realize what a great band we were. 1681 01:31:22,982 --> 01:31:25,485 This is KSAM in San Francisco, 1682 01:31:25,527 --> 01:31:28,488 with the Sex Pistols, live from Winterland. 1683 01:31:29,989 --> 01:31:33,326 Throughout the show, people were hurling things at them. 1684 01:31:33,326 --> 01:31:36,079 From all over -- from above, from the sides, 1685 01:31:36,121 --> 01:31:38,123 from right down below -- and there were people 1686 01:31:38,164 --> 01:31:40,792 jumping up on stage and being carried off. 1687 01:31:40,834 --> 01:31:42,460 The stage is... 1688 01:31:42,502 --> 01:31:44,337 Here they come. 1689 01:31:46,589 --> 01:31:50,343 It's not really impossible in San Francisco 1690 01:31:50,343 --> 01:31:53,471 to have monitors that work. 1691 01:31:53,513 --> 01:31:54,889 ...is it? 1692 01:31:54,931 --> 01:31:57,851 Is it impossible to have a sound check? 1693 01:31:57,892 --> 01:31:59,477 No. 1694 01:31:59,519 --> 01:32:01,813 Here's the encore of the Sex Pistols. 1695 01:32:03,023 --> 01:32:06,151 Malcolm would set it up to look ridiculous. 1696 01:32:06,192 --> 01:32:07,861 We were all cheated -- 1697 01:32:07,902 --> 01:32:11,406 audience... and lead singer alike. 1698 01:32:13,074 --> 01:32:15,618 You'll get one number and one number only, 1699 01:32:15,660 --> 01:32:17,620 'cause I'm a lazy bastard. 1700 01:32:17,662 --> 01:32:20,915 You have to understand, they stayed in a very nice hotel. 1701 01:32:20,957 --> 01:32:22,792 This is "no fun." 1702 01:32:22,834 --> 01:32:26,755 Me and Sid were not allowed in that very nice hotel. 1703 01:32:26,796 --> 01:32:30,967 We had to stay with the road crew in a motel. 1704 01:32:31,009 --> 01:32:35,388 The sheer lack of respect... for Malcolm -- 1705 01:32:35,388 --> 01:32:37,891 and him not returning a call -- 1706 01:32:37,891 --> 01:32:40,101 that was it for me. 1707 01:32:43,688 --> 01:32:45,899 It wasn't connived at all. 1708 01:32:45,899 --> 01:32:47,609 We got to our hotel and booked in. 1709 01:32:47,650 --> 01:32:50,111 I wasn't aware that he didn't get a room there. 1710 01:32:50,153 --> 01:32:52,364 So he ended up staying somewhere else. 1711 01:32:54,532 --> 01:32:57,952 # No fun, my babe # 1712 01:32:57,994 --> 01:33:00,246 # No fun # 1713 01:33:00,246 --> 01:33:02,874 Malcolm was fucking with me. 1714 01:33:02,916 --> 01:33:07,295 I had no credit card, and no money, no ticket. 1715 01:33:08,630 --> 01:33:10,215 He was trying to wreck 1716 01:33:10,256 --> 01:33:13,593 the very thing that made the Sex Pistols great, 1717 01:33:13,635 --> 01:33:16,179 and he managed to achieve it that night. 1718 01:33:16,221 --> 01:33:19,224 # ...fun to be alone # 1719 01:33:19,265 --> 01:33:21,601 # ln love # 1720 01:33:21,601 --> 01:33:24,437 # With nobody else # 1721 01:33:25,855 --> 01:33:27,816 John came over, and we tried to have 1722 01:33:27,857 --> 01:33:30,068 a "clear the air" talk, and we said to him, 1723 01:33:30,110 --> 01:33:32,320 "l don't wanna carry on, really much longer 1724 01:33:32,362 --> 01:33:35,073 the way this is going. It's, like, just totally pointless. 1725 01:33:35,115 --> 01:33:36,950 Someone's gonna get killed, you know?" 1726 01:33:36,950 --> 01:33:39,452 John said he thought the problem was Malcolm, 1727 01:33:39,452 --> 01:33:42,080 and we should get rid of Malcolm and carry on, 1728 01:33:42,122 --> 01:33:44,082 and try and work it out that way. 1729 01:33:44,124 --> 01:33:47,335 # Fun to be alone # 1730 01:33:47,377 --> 01:33:51,006 # Walkin' by myself # 1731 01:33:51,047 --> 01:33:54,259 # Fun to be alone # 1732 01:33:54,300 --> 01:33:56,720 # ln love # 1733 01:33:56,761 --> 01:33:59,431 # With nobody else # 1734 01:33:59,472 --> 01:34:00,932 I didn't really hang out with John. 1735 01:34:00,974 --> 01:34:03,768 He was always draining to me. Took up a lot of energy. 1736 01:34:03,810 --> 01:34:07,731 Malcolm I got along with, so I kinda went on to McLaren's side. 1737 01:34:07,772 --> 01:34:09,649 Another thing I regret. 1738 01:34:09,691 --> 01:34:12,152 # Maybe call somebody on the telephone # 1739 01:34:12,152 --> 01:34:14,904 # Well come on, my babe # 1740 01:34:14,946 --> 01:34:17,073 # Come on # 1741 01:34:20,660 --> 01:34:23,246 I'd have dropped Sid in a second 1742 01:34:23,288 --> 01:34:25,707 at that particular point for the band, 1743 01:34:25,749 --> 01:34:27,876 because I knew he was fucking up. 1744 01:34:27,917 --> 01:34:29,336 # No fun... # 1745 01:34:29,336 --> 01:34:30,670 That's a load of cobblers. 1746 01:34:30,670 --> 01:34:32,964 I was just playing bass, and going crazy, 1747 01:34:33,006 --> 01:34:34,966 and leaping up and down. And he thought I was trying 1748 01:34:35,008 --> 01:34:39,012 to take over his position as the "New Johnny Rotten." 1749 01:34:39,054 --> 01:34:40,722 # No fun # 1750 01:34:42,766 --> 01:34:43,892 # No fun # 1751 01:34:43,933 --> 01:34:46,061 I don't wanna be ajunkie for the rest of my life. 1752 01:34:46,102 --> 01:34:48,605 I don't wanna be ajunkie at all. 1753 01:34:53,276 --> 01:34:56,196 I knew the second Sid would smack himself up again 1754 01:34:56,237 --> 01:34:58,490 that was the end. 1755 01:35:00,408 --> 01:35:03,453 # No -- no fun # 1756 01:35:03,495 --> 01:35:05,705 # No fun # 1757 01:35:05,705 --> 01:35:09,084 # Alone -- no fun # 1758 01:35:09,125 --> 01:35:10,377 # By myself, it's no fun... # 1759 01:35:10,377 --> 01:35:12,504 I was the one who said "l've had enough." 1760 01:35:12,545 --> 01:35:13,963 I couldn't handle it any more. 1761 01:35:14,005 --> 01:35:17,008 I didn't want nothing to do with Rotten and Vicious. 1762 01:35:18,051 --> 01:35:21,054 Oh, bollocks, why should I carry on? 1763 01:35:21,096 --> 01:35:24,307 I regret saying that I wanted out, and leaving. 1764 01:35:24,349 --> 01:35:26,559 I regret it, I really do. 1765 01:35:26,601 --> 01:35:30,271 And I apologized to John that I fucking bailed. 1766 01:35:30,313 --> 01:35:32,524 # No fun # 1767 01:35:32,565 --> 01:35:36,027 We might have continued if we'd have got rid of Malcolm. 1768 01:35:37,070 --> 01:35:39,364 # No fun... # 1769 01:35:39,406 --> 01:35:41,366 But that's just the way I felt. 1770 01:35:41,408 --> 01:35:44,160 And I couldn't get away from my feelings at the time. 1771 01:35:46,788 --> 01:35:48,873 I knew it had to end. 1772 01:35:48,915 --> 01:35:50,917 I didn't think it would end... 1773 01:35:50,959 --> 01:35:54,796 with them being total wanker cowards. 1774 01:35:57,966 --> 01:36:01,094 Steve and Paul fannied out on me. 1775 01:36:03,805 --> 01:36:06,891 The last show was the worst show I think we've ever played. 1776 01:36:06,933 --> 01:36:09,394 It was just like, this ain't going nowhere. 1777 01:36:09,436 --> 01:36:12,647 This ain't going anywhere, it's fucking over. 1778 01:36:14,149 --> 01:36:16,568 Cookie agreed, and we just fucked off. 1779 01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:27,078 The night the group split up, 1780 01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:29,789 Vicious was pulled off a plane at Kennedy Airport, 1781 01:36:29,831 --> 01:36:32,167 the victim of a drug overdose. 1782 01:36:33,126 --> 01:36:35,837 Despite all the hassles, what was it that you thought 1783 01:36:35,879 --> 01:36:37,797 the Pistols were really trying to do? 1784 01:36:37,839 --> 01:36:40,508 Was itjust like really kick the establishment up the arse? 1785 01:36:42,302 --> 01:36:43,970 Sid? 1786 01:36:44,012 --> 01:36:48,141 Sid, he's not interviewing me. Please try and wake up. 1787 01:36:48,183 --> 01:36:50,185 Ow-ww! 1788 01:36:52,437 --> 01:36:55,106 Sid, damn you! 1789 01:36:56,983 --> 01:36:58,818 Fuck. 1790 01:37:01,946 --> 01:37:04,449 Everybody was for Sid -- I mean, Sid was like... 1791 01:37:04,491 --> 01:37:06,701 I don't know if you saw any of the gigs, 1792 01:37:06,743 --> 01:37:09,662 but Sid was like, really shining out. 1793 01:37:09,662 --> 01:37:12,499 And John was being like, nothing. 1794 01:37:14,668 --> 01:37:17,545 The only people... the only two people that I can think of... 1795 01:37:17,587 --> 01:37:20,590 that I would like to play with... 1796 01:37:27,138 --> 01:37:29,182 Sid...? 1797 01:37:29,224 --> 01:37:31,059 Oh, my God... 1798 01:37:31,101 --> 01:37:35,939 I feel nothing but grief, sorrow and sadness for Sid. 1799 01:37:35,980 --> 01:37:37,816 To the point, like, 1800 01:37:37,857 --> 01:37:40,110 if I really like, talk about it, 1801 01:37:40,151 --> 01:37:42,320 I just fucking burst out in tears. 1802 01:37:42,362 --> 01:37:44,823 He was someone I really cared for. 1803 01:37:44,864 --> 01:37:48,284 You see? He's one of the Johns. 1804 01:37:48,326 --> 01:37:51,371 I care about every single one of the Johns. 1805 01:37:51,413 --> 01:37:53,998 The gang of Johns should have been the band. 1806 01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:57,043 - Wake up, Sid. - Yeah, okay. I'm waking up. 1807 01:37:57,085 --> 01:37:58,795 Now what's the next question? 1808 01:37:58,837 --> 01:38:01,381 I can't be more honest than that. 1809 01:38:01,423 --> 01:38:04,092 Don't drop it on me again. 1810 01:38:28,867 --> 01:38:32,078 Well, the room was... very bloody. 1811 01:38:32,078 --> 01:38:34,914 There was blood on the sheets, and blood on the mattress 1812 01:38:34,914 --> 01:38:37,667 there was tracks of blood leading into the bathroom, 1813 01:38:37,709 --> 01:38:41,379 where the body of the female was found lying under the sink. 1814 01:38:41,421 --> 01:38:43,757 She was stabbed in the stomach. 1815 01:38:50,263 --> 01:38:52,640 The whole thing lasted no more than three minutes, 1816 01:38:52,682 --> 01:38:55,060 and out they went. Vicious made no attempt 1817 01:38:55,101 --> 01:38:57,437 to duck the cameras waiting outside the courtroom, 1818 01:38:57,479 --> 01:39:00,690 but he refused to respond to any of the reporters' questions, 1819 01:39:00,732 --> 01:39:03,193 and shoved persistent microphones out of his path. 1820 01:39:03,234 --> 01:39:06,988 The grand jury will decide whether or not to indict Vicious for murder. 1821 01:39:07,030 --> 01:39:10,784 If indicted, the case moves to the Supreme Court for further action. 1822 01:39:10,825 --> 01:39:12,911 Vicious was ordered to Ryker's lsland. 1823 01:39:12,952 --> 01:39:15,288 If convicted of the stabbing death of Miss Spungen, 1824 01:39:15,330 --> 01:39:17,999 Vicious faces 1 5 years to life in prison. 1825 01:39:18,041 --> 01:39:20,585 # No fun... # 1826 01:39:20,627 --> 01:39:23,630 Are you having fun at the moment? 1827 01:39:23,630 --> 01:39:25,340 Are you kidding? 1828 01:39:25,382 --> 01:39:28,134 No, I'm not having fun at all. 1829 01:39:30,929 --> 01:39:33,014 Where would you like to be? 1830 01:39:34,307 --> 01:39:36,309 Under the ground. 1831 01:39:37,686 --> 01:39:39,396 Are you serious? 1832 01:39:39,437 --> 01:39:41,147 Oh, yeah. 1833 01:39:54,077 --> 01:39:56,746 I've lost my friend. 1834 01:39:56,788 --> 01:40:00,458 I couldn't have changed it. I was too young. 1835 01:40:00,500 --> 01:40:03,044 God, I wish I was smarter. 1836 01:40:03,086 --> 01:40:06,172 You can look back on it, and go, 1837 01:40:06,214 --> 01:40:09,092 "l could have done something." 1838 01:40:09,134 --> 01:40:12,220 He died, for fuck's sake. 1839 01:40:14,889 --> 01:40:19,269 Theyjust turned it into making money. 1840 01:40:19,310 --> 01:40:21,688 "Ha, ha, ha, ha..." 1841 01:40:21,730 --> 01:40:24,566 How hilarious for them. 1842 01:40:24,607 --> 01:40:26,443 Fucking cheek. 1843 01:40:26,484 --> 01:40:30,030 I'll hate them forever for doing that. 1844 01:40:35,535 --> 01:40:39,956 You can't get more evil than that. Can you, Julien? You know? 1845 01:40:42,584 --> 01:40:44,919 No respect. 1846 01:40:44,961 --> 01:40:47,756 Vicious... poor sod. 1847 01:40:53,887 --> 01:40:56,264 # No fun... # 1848 01:40:57,557 --> 01:40:59,601 # No fun! # 1849 01:40:59,642 --> 01:41:03,104 # No fun -- no fun # 1850 01:41:03,146 --> 01:41:05,648 # No fun... # 1851 01:41:07,942 --> 01:41:11,321 # No fun -- my babe # 1852 01:41:11,363 --> 01:41:13,573 # No fun # 1853 01:41:15,367 --> 01:41:18,745 # Fun to be alone # 1854 01:41:18,745 --> 01:41:22,290 # Walkin' by myself # 1855 01:41:22,332 --> 01:41:25,377 # Fun to be alone # 1856 01:41:25,418 --> 01:41:27,420 # ln love... # 1857 01:41:28,421 --> 01:41:31,883 And I said, "You fucking motherfucking faggot cowboys, 1858 01:41:31,925 --> 01:41:34,761 you can throw any fucking thing in the world at us, 1859 01:41:34,761 --> 01:41:36,805 and you won't get us off this stage." 1860 01:41:36,846 --> 01:41:39,891 # Maybe goin' out maybe stay at home # 1861 01:41:39,933 --> 01:41:42,852 # Maybe call somebody on the telephone # 1862 01:41:42,894 --> 01:41:45,105 # Come on # 1863 01:41:45,146 --> 01:41:47,232 # No fun # 1864 01:41:54,155 --> 01:41:56,574 We gave it fucking 200 percent 1865 01:41:56,616 --> 01:41:58,868 for, like two years, and that was it. 1866 01:41:58,910 --> 01:42:00,412 I think we run out of steam. 1867 01:42:00,453 --> 01:42:02,539 You dirty fucker. 1868 01:42:02,580 --> 01:42:04,290 I loved being a Sex Pistol. 1869 01:42:04,332 --> 01:42:06,710 I'll always be a Sex Pistol. 1870 01:42:06,751 --> 01:42:08,837 But at least, you know, when I die 1871 01:42:08,878 --> 01:42:10,880 at least I can say I've done something. 1872 01:42:10,922 --> 01:42:12,632 # No fun... # 1873 01:42:12,674 --> 01:42:15,927 Press the self-destruct button, and start again. 1874 01:42:15,969 --> 01:42:17,679 Which is what it was all about. 1875 01:42:21,433 --> 01:42:23,143 # No fun... # 1876 01:42:23,143 --> 01:42:27,814 So creating something called the Sex Pistols 1877 01:42:27,856 --> 01:42:31,151 was my painting, my sculpture, 1878 01:42:31,151 --> 01:42:34,029 my little artful dodgers. 1879 01:42:35,155 --> 01:42:37,824 Are you still waffling, Malcolm? 1880 01:42:39,159 --> 01:42:40,869 The Sex Pistols ended 1881 01:42:40,910 --> 01:42:44,664 at exactly the right time for all the wrong reasons, 1882 01:42:44,664 --> 01:42:48,001 but the wrong reasons were continued, 1883 01:42:48,043 --> 01:42:51,546 and people continued to perpetrate lies -- 1884 01:42:51,588 --> 01:42:53,381 about a reality. 1885 01:42:59,429 --> 01:43:00,972 Ah, ha, ha... 1886 01:43:01,014 --> 01:43:03,850 Ever get the feeling you've been cheated? 1887 01:43:03,850 --> 01:43:05,685 Goodnight. 1888 01:43:13,109 --> 01:43:15,070 We did what we had to do... 1889 01:43:15,111 --> 01:43:17,238 and that's why we didn't survive. 1890 01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:20,492 Only the fakes survive. 1891 01:43:20,533 --> 01:43:23,578 All I want is for future generations 1892 01:43:23,620 --> 01:43:26,623 to just go, "Fuck it, I've had enough, 1893 01:43:26,664 --> 01:43:28,708 here's the truth." 1894 01:43:30,794 --> 01:43:33,213 Infamy, infamy! 1895 01:43:33,213 --> 01:43:35,548 They've all got it in for me. 1896 01:43:52,816 --> 01:43:57,278 # I'm on a submarine mission for you, baby # 1897 01:43:57,320 --> 01:44:01,574 # I feel the way you were goin' # 1898 01:44:01,574 --> 01:44:05,328 # Picked you up on my TV screen # 1899 01:44:05,370 --> 01:44:09,249 # Feel your undercurrent flowing # 1900 01:44:09,249 --> 01:44:12,502 # Submission # 1901 01:44:12,544 --> 01:44:16,339 # Goin' down, down draggin' me down # 1902 01:44:16,381 --> 01:44:20,635 # Submission # 1903 01:44:20,677 --> 01:44:24,514 # I can't tell ya what I've found # 1904 01:44:28,518 --> 01:44:32,439 # You've got me pretty deep, baby # 1905 01:44:32,439 --> 01:44:36,443 # I can't figure out your watery love # 1906 01:44:36,484 --> 01:44:40,321 # I gotta solve your mystery # 1907 01:44:40,363 --> 01:44:43,992 # You're sitting it out in heaven above # 1908 01:44:44,034 --> 01:44:47,996 # Submission # 1909 01:44:48,038 --> 01:44:51,791 # Goin' down, down draggin' me down # 1910 01:44:51,833 --> 01:44:55,837 # Submission # 1911 01:44:55,879 --> 01:45:00,550 # I can't tell ya what I've found # 1912 01:45:04,679 --> 01:45:07,223 # The mystery # 1913 01:45:08,975 --> 01:45:11,603 # Under the water # 1914 01:45:14,647 --> 01:45:17,817 # ln the sea # 1915 01:45:37,962 --> 01:45:41,841 # Submission # 1916 01:45:41,883 --> 01:45:45,845 # Goin' down, down draggin' me down # 1917 01:45:45,887 --> 01:45:49,516 # Submission # 1918 01:45:49,557 --> 01:45:53,687 I wanna drown... # I can't tell ya what I've found # 1919 01:45:59,150 --> 01:46:02,278 # ln the water # 1920 01:46:04,948 --> 01:46:08,118 # ln the sea # 1921 01:46:16,751 --> 01:46:21,381 # A submarine mission for you, baby # 1922 01:46:21,423 --> 01:46:25,135 # Feel the way you were goin' # 1923 01:46:25,176 --> 01:46:29,222 # Picked you up on my TV screen # 1924 01:46:29,264 --> 01:46:32,851 # Feel your undercurrent flowing # 1925 01:46:32,892 --> 01:46:36,521 # Submission # 1926 01:46:36,563 --> 01:46:40,650 # I'm goin down, down draggin' me down # 1927 01:46:40,692 --> 01:46:44,654 # Submission # 1928 01:46:44,696 --> 01:46:48,867 # I can't tell ya what I've found # 1929 01:46:59,753 --> 01:47:05,842 # Sub - miss - ion # 1930 01:47:11,598 --> 01:47:16,311 # Sub - miss - ion # 1931 01:47:19,356 --> 01:47:24,652 # Sub - miss - ion # 140915

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