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Man:
Children were molested here!
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And it's directly connected
to the football program.
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Man 2:
Joe Paterno did know
that Sandusky
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- was abusing boys
in the shower.
- No, he did not!
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Man 3:
I firmly believe,
in his mind,
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he did what
he thought was right.
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Man 4:
I think Joe Paterno's
getting thrown
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under the bus here
a little bit.
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Man 5: He is not
the Attorney General,
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he's the football coach.
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Man 7:
He was the Godfather!
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He was aware of what happened,
and allowed it to happen.
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Woman:
Joe! Where are you going?
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I'm going to the john.
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It's back here.
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It's right across the hall
from where we just were.
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Come on!
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Oh, yeah.
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I got turned around.
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Yeah, it's just
right over here
across the hall.
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Penn State!
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Penn State!
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Announcer: Eight inches
of winter's wrath expected,
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as Joe Paterno
seeks win number 409
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to surpass all
Division I football coaches.
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- Man: Take one.
- Man 2: Give me the stats
on Bolden and McGloin.
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Go to mascot.
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Commentator: Joe Paterno
up in the booth again today.
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That is certainly not
his preference.
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Announcer: Joe is coaching
from the press box today
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due to a hip injury sustained
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in practice
a couple weeks back.
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- Paterno: Guido.
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Bobby, no shots of Joe
in the booth.
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Man:
Look, look. Kay?
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- Busted.
- N-Number 31, please.
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- Give me the camera.
- Nope, nope. I'm deleting.
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Security:
No pictures of JoePa.
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Announcer:
As college football seems
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to change more rapidly
than ever,
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he remains the constant.
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JoePa. Penn state.
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At age 84, he is not
just still in the game,
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in many ways, he is the game.
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And with one more win,
another milestone.
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And there's the kick!
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Penn state offense
will take over
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on its own 35-yard line.
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Ready in blue?
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McGloin out of the shotgun,
heaving long...
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Commentator:
We asked Joe Paterno,
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"How do you get that message
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down to the sideline?"
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He writes it down,
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"If I call 41 power,
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I better see 41 power."
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All right. Split left,
drag 46 strong.
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Watch if they sub.
Check their angle
if they do.
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Catch 'em by surprise.
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Announcer:
And the snow continues to fall.
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Redd takes it on second down...
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and they get another Penn State
first down at the 25.
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Reporter: Here at Penn State,
we've still got 0-0,
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but the crowd could not
be more electric.
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Everybody here is wondering
if JoePa can deliver
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an historic 409th win
for the Nittany Lions.
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Announcer:
And the tailback---
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Bolden fumbles!
Illinois has got it.
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- Shit.
- A straight fumble
by the sophomore...
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Let's go, defense!
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Get that motherfucker
out of this game right now!
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Who the fuck was that?
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They want Bolden
out of the game.
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- No.
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Keep him in.
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Give me a shot of Bolden
on the sidelines.
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Announcer:
End of the first half,
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exactly where we started:
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Zero-zero.
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Stupid mother--
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- No.
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By the time I get
down with this gimp,
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halftime will be over.
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Coach is stayin' up here.
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Jay's comin' down.
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Woman: Jay Is on the move--
without his dad.
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Man:
Jay in the locker room?
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That's insane.
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- They hate him.
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Yeah,
he's a total doorknob.
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Why do you think
Joe won't retire?
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Oh, what? Like if they
wait long enough,
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he'll turn
into head coach material?
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You motherfuckers!
Hey, hey, listen to me!
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You think you can get
on the headset and talk
to me like that?!
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What are you guys,
a bunch of fucking--
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Back off!
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You were out there!
Show some respect!
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- Come on.
- Give me a break!
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Honey, you remember
Jerry Sandusky and Dottie.
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Good to see you.
How ya doin'?
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They need you back
on that line, Jerry.
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- We miss you.
- They're doin' okay.
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You still think
he's a pedophile?
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You know, nobody read
your article.
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Fuck you.
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It's been six months.
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That popcorn kernel didn't pop.
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Time to move on.
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That's just my opinion.
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Well, nobody's asking
for your opinion.
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We got a heads-up
from the attorney general's
office.
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They're charging Jerry
in the next few weeks.
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What, the business
with the shower?
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They have more
than one incident.
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What, with the same kid?
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Multiple incidents
with the same kid,
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and multiple kids.
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Oh, Jesus.
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All in our locker room?
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I don't know.
Look, evidently...
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you two might be named
in the indictment.
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What the fuck
you talkin' about?
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Cynthia says
they've got no case.
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She's gonna
get it thrown out.
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We just need
to ride it out.
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That's easy
for you to say,
Graham.
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I am in this
a hundred percent
with you.
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Oh, we're-- we're indicted
alongside an accused pedophile
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and you're say-- Ohh.
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Wow, I just hit
the motherlode.
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You're not
taking a fall, Gary.
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I will make sure
that doesn't happen.
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Hey, guys.
Can I get a quick hit?
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Of course.
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Ready one, take one.
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Reporter: I'm here
with Penn State University
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president Graham Spanier,
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vice president
of the university Gary Schultz,
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and Athletic Director
Tim Curley.
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You are looking
at a possible 409 wins
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for Penn State's own JoePa.
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How does that feel?
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Mara, we couldn't
be more excited.
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Ready one, take one!
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TV: If you want to get a sense
of how respected,
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how revered, Joe Paterno is
here at Penn State,
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look at this:
a monument they built to him
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calling him a coach,
an educator,
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and a humanitarian.
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- We are!
- Penn State!
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- We are!
- Penn State!
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- We are!
- Penn State!
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Quarterback:
And...hut!
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Announcer:
Scheelhaase to throw
to the end zone,
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touchdown!
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- 3:32 to go in the third.
- Aw, shit.
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It's Illinois
who strikes first.
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- Paterno on two. Standby, two.
- Tighter on Paterno.
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Slow push him, slow push him.
Ready, two? Take two.
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Announcer:
Third and goal.
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McGloin fumbles the football,
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picks it up again,
sacked at the 15.
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That is the sixth fumble
of the day by Penn State.
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Fourth and goal,
the kicking unit comes out.
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Fera's 30-yarder
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is...good!
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Penn State's on the board.
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It's seven-three.
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...on four.
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Scheelhaase is gonna run again
on third and twelve.
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This time Penn State's ready
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to force fourth down
for Illinois.
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Man:
Take one.
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Announcer:
3:05 to go.
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80 yards for
the Penn State offense.
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Nittany Lions need a touchdown.
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What's the story
with Moye?
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Fractured
metatarsal.
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Doctor says he can go
if it's an emergency.
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Well, this looks
like an emergency.
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You got Moye?
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Moye! Moye! Get Moye!
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Moye, let's go!
Come on, come on,
let's go.
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The team needs you.
Joe needs you. Go! Go!
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Announcer:
And McGloin,
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the junior quarterback
from Scranton.
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McGloin throws,
it's completed!
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And who makes the grab
but Derek Moye,
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coming back from a broken bone
in his left foot.
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Jay: Now we're in business.
They're gonna crowd the line,
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think we're gonna run--
let's go to Brown.
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Man: Take one.
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Ready, two...
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Announcer:
Right back to Justin Brown!
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First down, Penn State driving.
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All right,
we got a game here, folks.
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Everybody stay focused.
Let's do our jobs.
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- Fourth down and sixth.
- Let's go!
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Penn State needs to convert.
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McGloin heaves it
to the end zone for Moye--
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It is...
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incomplete! But there are
multiple flags on the play.
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Penn State's gonna
get another shot.
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- Man: Nice.
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- Time out, time out.
- Time out. Time out.
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- Time out. Time out.
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Man: All right, Coach.
What do you want to do?
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Heavy right,
25 counter.
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That's good.
Heavy right,
25 counter.
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- Come on, baby.
- Heavy right, 25 counter.
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All right. Heavy right,
25 counter. Let's go.
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Announcer: A minute-20 to go
in the fourth quarter,
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down by four,
Penn State needs
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to get into the end zone
for the first time today.
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McGloin handing off, Silas...
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He's in the end zone!
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Touchdown, Penn State!
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With a minute-eight to go,
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the Nittany Lions
are into the end zone,
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- an 80-yard touchdown drive.
- Yes! Yes!
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Penn State hoping
to close it out
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and give Joe Paterno
win number 409,
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making him the winningest coach
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in the history
of Division I football.
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Five seconds.
42-yarder to tie it.
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Announcer:
No good! Penn State wins!
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10-7.
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Win 409 for Joe Paterno
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as head coach at Penn State....
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- Sara Ganim.
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Holy fucking shit.
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Ganim: Criminal charges,
Gerald Sandusky.
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40 counts.
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Involuntary, deviant
sexual intercourse,
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person less
than 16 years of age.
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Indecent assault,
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person less
than 16 years of age.
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- Aggravated indecent assault--
- Person less than 13 years.
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Jesus Chri--
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What the fuck.
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W
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- Reload. Reload--
- I'm reloading.
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- I don't know.
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Give me a second.
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Every other site's working.
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They pulled it.
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Boy : Mike.
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Man:
Hey, man, are you home?
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- No, I'm on my way.
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She told me
I could take the car.
253
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- I didn't--
- No, it's fine. Listen,
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I need you
to pull over for a second.
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Can you do that?
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Man : Okay, look.
The charges against Jerry
went up online.
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They disappeared
like a minute later,
258
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which means
somebody probably
posted them by mistake,
259
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but a lot of people saw it,
so...
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It's happening now.
They're gonna arrest him.
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Probably tomorrow morning,
Sunday at the latest,
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and they're gonna have to post
the grand jury presentment
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when they're ready
to bring him in,
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so the whole story's
gonna be there.
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It's public.
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And I won't say your name.
267
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May use your initials, but...
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it's happening.
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Aaron?
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Hey, buddy. Hey.
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Woman: Hey, Joe.
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Paterno: Yeah.
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You wanna have dinner
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with Don and Shirley
on Sunday night?
275
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No.
276
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Come on, they want
to celebrate the win.
277
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Well, let 'em go celebrate
by themselves.
278
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So, no?
- Well, I...
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All right, let's see
how it plays out on Sunday.
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Well, I've got
a board meeting
in Philly.
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Maybe after a day by himself,
he'll want to be, you know--
282
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You asked me a question.
Don't ignore the answer.
283
00:13:19,827 --> 00:13:21,159
Oh, hang on one second, Sheryl.
284
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I got Scotty on the other line.
285
00:13:22,410 --> 00:13:24,243
Hey, Scotty.
I'm on the phone.
286
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- Scotty: Ma, I need
to talk to Dad.
- Okay.
287
00:13:27,368 --> 00:13:29,909
Uh, Joe, call Scotty
when I'm off.
288
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I'll call him when I finish
the practice script.
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Scotty,
he's gonna call you back
when he's finished
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with the practice scripts,
okay?
291
00:13:36,159 --> 00:13:38,076
No, no, no, no!
Ma, I gotta ta--
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- Yeah, Sheryl.
Special Olympics...
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Oh, no, it's a 5K.
294
00:13:43,118 --> 00:13:46,868
You gotta be kiddin' me.
295
00:13:46,868 --> 00:13:49,285
( starts car,
revs engine )
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Gamin:
We saw the charges,
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but was that one victim
or two victims?
298
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Okay, just tell me this:
299
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when's the guy
gonna get arrested?
300
00:14:01,577 --> 00:14:03,410
Isn't he considered
a flight risk?
301
00:14:03,410 --> 00:14:06,243
John says there may be
somebody else named
in the indictment.
302
00:14:06,243 --> 00:14:09,535
Jessie-- Jessie, is someone
other than Jerry Sandusky
303
00:14:09,535 --> 00:14:12,243
named in the indictment?
Jessie?
304
00:14:12,243 --> 00:14:14,660
Hey, it's Charlie Thompson
at The Patriot-News, for Bill.
305
00:14:14,660 --> 00:14:16,326
No, I can wait.
306
00:14:16,326 --> 00:14:17,743
Newhouse: Somebody needs
to call Graham Spanier!
307
00:14:17,743 --> 00:14:19,118
I'll do it.
308
00:14:19,118 --> 00:14:20,285
What'd he say about
your first article?
309
00:14:20,285 --> 00:14:21,909
Nothing.
Him and everybody else.
310
00:14:21,909 --> 00:14:23,909
Six months went by.
It was like I wrote
about a yard sale.
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Ask Spanier
if he thinks he's
gonna get fired.
312
00:14:25,868 --> 00:14:28,243
They're not gonna fire
the president of Penn State.
313
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Jerry hasn't worked there
in a decade.
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00:14:30,743 --> 00:14:33,118
Thompson:
Bill, when are we gonna see
this grand jury presentment?
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00:14:33,118 --> 00:14:35,743
You're either
charging the guy
or you're not.
316
00:14:35,743 --> 00:14:37,159
Newhouse: Sara...
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it's up.
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Woman: Aaron...
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I don't want you to read it.
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00:15:00,118 --> 00:15:01,577
Aaron.
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00:15:01,577 --> 00:15:03,410
Everything's on there.
322
00:15:03,410 --> 00:15:04,951
It's not gonna
change anything--
323
00:15:04,951 --> 00:15:08,118
You said I didn't
have to tell you.
324
00:15:08,118 --> 00:15:10,076
With the grand jury
and the cops...
325
00:15:10,076 --> 00:15:12,660
It's on the computer, Aaron.
326
00:15:12,660 --> 00:15:15,785
Your mother can't be
the only person in the country
not to read it.
327
00:15:22,868 --> 00:15:27,993
Newhouse: Looks like Victim One
was 11 when it started.
328
00:15:27,993 --> 00:15:32,201
Sandusky performed oral sex
on him more than 20 times.
329
00:15:32,201 --> 00:15:36,993
Sandusky also had Victim One
perform oral sex on him
one time.
330
00:15:36,993 --> 00:15:40,535
Jesus-- uh,
touched Victim One's penis
with his hands.
331
00:15:40,535 --> 00:15:43,201
Victim One did not want
to engage in sexual conduct
332
00:15:43,201 --> 00:15:45,243
with Sandusky,
knew it was wrong.
333
00:15:45,243 --> 00:15:46,868
And Victim Two?
334
00:15:46,868 --> 00:15:50,951
Uh... ten years old.
335
00:15:50,951 --> 00:15:53,201
Anal intercourse.
336
00:15:53,201 --> 00:15:55,076
- Shit.
337
00:15:57,827 --> 00:16:00,702
Dawn?
: Hi.
338
00:16:02,993 --> 00:16:04,868
Ganim:
I'm gonna be in your area
339
00:16:04,868 --> 00:16:06,201
in a couple hours.
340
00:16:06,201 --> 00:16:07,201
Should I stop by?
341
00:16:09,993 --> 00:16:11,785
I don't know.
342
00:16:11,785 --> 00:16:13,410
Okay, well,
how about I head that way,
343
00:16:13,410 --> 00:16:15,034
and then if it doesn't
feel right, you can just--
344
00:16:15,034 --> 00:16:16,951
you can send me back.
345
00:16:20,702 --> 00:16:22,243
Dawn?
346
00:16:27,201 --> 00:16:28,076
Dawn?
347
00:16:33,993 --> 00:16:35,660
Victim One's mom.
348
00:16:35,660 --> 00:16:37,076
Call me from the car.
349
00:16:37,076 --> 00:16:38,410
We'll finish the piece
while you drive.
350
00:16:40,285 --> 00:16:41,868
Ganim:
The indictment alleges
351
00:16:41,868 --> 00:16:43,702
that former Penn State coach
Jerry Sandusky
352
00:16:43,702 --> 00:16:47,243
used The Second Mile,
the charity he founded in 1977,
353
00:16:47,243 --> 00:16:49,493
- to get access to
and molest boys...
- Okay.
354
00:16:49,493 --> 00:16:52,577
many of whom were vulnerable
due to their social situations.
355
00:16:52,577 --> 00:16:53,951
Newhouse:
That's great.
356
00:16:53,951 --> 00:16:55,118
Ganim:
Many of the alleged incidents
357
00:16:55,118 --> 00:16:56,743
happened in the Lasch building,
358
00:16:56,743 --> 00:16:58,993
the football building
on Penn State campus.
359
00:16:58,993 --> 00:17:01,909
Man:
With football season
well underway now,
360
00:17:01,909 --> 00:17:04,577
for many fans,
it doesn't get any bigger
than Penn State.
361
00:17:04,577 --> 00:17:08,909
But the case against one of
that team's long-time coaches
is unfolding, and quickly.
362
00:17:08,909 --> 00:17:12,493
Charged with abusing
several boys at a program
he'd started,
363
00:17:12,493 --> 00:17:14,951
former coach Jerry Sandusky,
once heir apparent
364
00:17:14,951 --> 00:17:16,618
to the legendary Joe Paterno,
365
00:17:16,618 --> 00:17:19,410
is charged with sexually
abusing eight boys.
366
00:17:19,410 --> 00:17:21,660
And now two high-ranking
university officials,
367
00:17:21,660 --> 00:17:23,993
the athletic director
and a vice president,
368
00:17:23,993 --> 00:17:27,159
face charges in court, accused
of looking the other way
369
00:17:27,159 --> 00:17:29,618
after several mothers
came forward.
370
00:17:29,618 --> 00:17:31,410
One mother told reporter
Sara Ganim
371
00:17:31,410 --> 00:17:33,243
she feels betrayed
by Penn State,
372
00:17:33,243 --> 00:17:36,909
as details emerge
of what she sees as a cover-up,
373
00:17:36,909 --> 00:17:39,951
saying one of her sons
complained about Sandusky,
374
00:17:39,951 --> 00:17:41,326
but no one listened.
375
00:17:42,868 --> 00:17:45,577
"Penn State forever,
molder of men"--
376
00:17:45,577 --> 00:17:47,951
well, where
is that integrity now?
377
00:17:47,951 --> 00:17:49,618
Woman:
If these allegations are true,
378
00:17:49,618 --> 00:17:51,076
then this goes to the very top
379
00:17:51,076 --> 00:17:53,118
of the athletic department
at Penn State,
380
00:17:53,118 --> 00:17:55,326
and one would have
to think that there
381
00:17:55,326 --> 00:17:57,618
would have to be
some kind of housecleaning.
382
00:18:05,577 --> 00:18:08,285
Announcer:
They do go conservative--
is he gonna make it pay off?
383
00:18:08,285 --> 00:18:11,993
I can't-- I can't believe it,
ya know? And then on top of it,
384
00:18:11,993 --> 00:18:14,743
they-- they indicted
Tim and Gary too.
385
00:18:14,743 --> 00:18:16,076
- For what.
386
00:18:16,076 --> 00:18:18,368
For perjury, for lying
to the grand jury.
387
00:18:18,368 --> 00:18:20,326
For failing
to protect children.
388
00:18:20,326 --> 00:18:22,702
They testified in front
of the grand jury
just like you did, Dad.
389
00:18:22,702 --> 00:18:24,326
Scott:
You read it, right?
390
00:18:24,326 --> 00:18:25,951
You read the grand jury
presentment?
391
00:18:25,951 --> 00:18:29,034
No. They indict me?
392
00:18:30,993 --> 00:18:32,285
No.
393
00:18:32,285 --> 00:18:33,535
So?
394
00:18:33,535 --> 00:18:36,243
Wait, are you--
Okay.
395
00:18:36,243 --> 00:18:39,285
I am going to print
this thing out
so you will read it.
396
00:18:39,285 --> 00:18:43,118
I got Nebraska
a week from today.
397
00:18:43,118 --> 00:18:46,868
They're seven-and-one,
just so you know.
398
00:18:49,368 --> 00:18:50,909
Spanier.
399
00:18:50,909 --> 00:18:53,159
Ohh. Put me
in the ground.
400
00:18:55,034 --> 00:18:56,034
Scott: Hey.
401
00:18:56,034 --> 00:18:57,909
Hey, Scott.
402
00:18:57,909 --> 00:18:59,451
Got something I want
to run by your dad.
403
00:18:59,451 --> 00:19:01,868
Yeah, come on in.
He's watching Nebraska.
404
00:19:03,493 --> 00:19:04,702
How do they look?
405
00:19:04,702 --> 00:19:05,702
Paterno:
Good is how they look.
406
00:19:07,326 --> 00:19:08,618
Northwestern's up by four,
407
00:19:08,618 --> 00:19:10,577
but they're not
gonna hold it.
408
00:19:15,660 --> 00:19:17,368
All right.
409
00:19:17,368 --> 00:19:20,285
"The allegations
about a former coach
are troubling,
410
00:19:20,285 --> 00:19:23,118
and it is appropriate
that they be investigated
thoroughly.
411
00:19:23,118 --> 00:19:25,451
With regard
to the other indictments,
412
00:19:25,451 --> 00:19:27,785
I wish to say that
Tim Curley and Gary Schultz
413
00:19:27,785 --> 00:19:29,827
have my unconditional support.
414
00:19:29,827 --> 00:19:31,577
I have complete confidence
in how they have handled
415
00:19:31,577 --> 00:19:35,410
the allegations
about a former
university employee.
416
00:19:35,410 --> 00:19:39,909
I am confident the record
will show that these charges
are groundless,
417
00:19:39,909 --> 00:19:43,702
and that they conducted
themselves professionally
and appropriately."
418
00:19:43,702 --> 00:19:47,909
Why do you say that...
about Gary and Tim?
419
00:19:49,243 --> 00:19:50,493
'Cause it's true.
420
00:19:50,493 --> 00:19:52,702
Grand jury doesn't think so.
421
00:19:52,702 --> 00:19:54,410
You think
that's right?
422
00:19:54,410 --> 00:19:56,410
Well, what do I know?
423
00:19:56,410 --> 00:19:57,660
But I wouldn't go stand
424
00:19:57,660 --> 00:20:00,159
in front of the bull
waving a flag.
425
00:20:00,159 --> 00:20:04,660
This school should look
like we give a hoot,
you know?
426
00:20:04,660 --> 00:20:06,368
We want everything
run down
427
00:20:06,368 --> 00:20:08,493
until we know
what actually happened.
428
00:20:08,493 --> 00:20:10,909
That's a huge slap in the face
to Gary and Tim.
429
00:20:10,909 --> 00:20:13,577
They were...
protecting the school.
430
00:20:13,577 --> 00:20:14,951
Do what you want.
431
00:20:14,951 --> 00:20:17,493
You're asking me,
I'm sayin'.
432
00:20:17,493 --> 00:20:19,034
I think it's
a stupid thing to say.
433
00:20:19,034 --> 00:20:22,451
Well, I'll look at it again.
434
00:20:24,993 --> 00:20:28,201
OK. You need anything,
give me a call.
435
00:20:30,076 --> 00:20:31,493
Hey.
436
00:20:31,493 --> 00:20:33,577
- Spanier: Hey, Jay.
437
00:20:33,577 --> 00:20:34,993
We're just bending
your dad's ear.
438
00:20:34,993 --> 00:20:37,577
Latet anguis in herba.
439
00:20:37,577 --> 00:20:39,285
What does that mean?
440
00:20:39,285 --> 00:20:41,243
It's Virgil.
It means you're
gonna be fine.
441
00:20:41,243 --> 00:20:44,868
Northwestern's up by four.
442
00:20:44,868 --> 00:20:46,451
- That's not gonna last.
- Yeah.
443
00:20:46,451 --> 00:20:48,326
Thanks for stopping by,
Graham.
444
00:20:48,326 --> 00:20:49,285
Spanier:
See you soon.
445
00:20:51,118 --> 00:20:52,868
Oh boy.
446
00:20:53,993 --> 00:20:55,076
What was that?
447
00:20:55,076 --> 00:20:57,493
Box of rocks.
448
00:20:57,493 --> 00:20:59,493
He wants to be
everybody's friend.
449
00:20:59,493 --> 00:21:01,451
He's gonna
get himself fired. Watch.
450
00:21:01,451 --> 00:21:03,702
Couldn't happen
to a nicer guy.
451
00:21:03,702 --> 00:21:06,909
There's peppers
and provolone on the stove.
Heat it up.
452
00:21:06,909 --> 00:21:10,159
- Yeah, I talked to Guido.
- Yeah.
453
00:21:10,159 --> 00:21:13,743
He thinks
this is gonna be more
than just a sports story.
454
00:21:13,743 --> 00:21:16,034
Scott: You think?
Did you read it?
455
00:21:16,034 --> 00:21:17,660
The presentment? No.
I just got here.
456
00:21:17,660 --> 00:21:18,827
Yeah.
What's the hurry?
457
00:21:18,827 --> 00:21:20,285
The guy only fucked
eight children.
458
00:21:20,285 --> 00:21:22,034
- Hey, hey.
459
00:21:22,034 --> 00:21:24,993
Just somebody
other than me has
to read this thing.
460
00:21:27,743 --> 00:21:30,743
Can you take this
someplace else, guys?!
461
00:21:30,743 --> 00:21:34,076
I'm trying to work here.
Anybody care?
462
00:21:34,076 --> 00:21:37,159
You got your own homes now,
ya know.
463
00:21:37,159 --> 00:21:40,868
Man: Well, what goes on in
major college sports programs
464
00:21:40,868 --> 00:21:42,618
are they become
little fiefdoms,
465
00:21:42,618 --> 00:21:44,702
and the college coach
becomes all-powerful,
466
00:21:44,702 --> 00:21:47,951
and Joe Paterno is like a god
on that campus.
467
00:21:47,951 --> 00:21:50,785
Man #2:
He's the leader. I understand
there's a university president,
468
00:21:50,785 --> 00:21:54,368
there's a athletic director,
but we know who's running
Penn State.
469
00:21:54,368 --> 00:21:55,535
It's JoePa.
470
00:21:55,535 --> 00:21:57,285
Phone: Mailbox. One.
471
00:21:57,285 --> 00:21:59,493
You have
one new message.
472
00:21:59,493 --> 00:22:03,827
Sara, it's Dawn.
Can we... I'm--I'm sorry.
473
00:22:03,827 --> 00:22:05,743
Let's do this tomorrow.
474
00:22:05,743 --> 00:22:10,951
We're pretty wrung out
over here. Aaron's, um...
475
00:22:10,951 --> 00:22:15,410
Why don't you come by
in the morning. Okay? Thanks.
476
00:22:15,410 --> 00:22:17,410
( "Scarlet Begonias"
by Grateful Dead playing )
477
00:22:23,909 --> 00:22:25,909
Hey! Did you
just get here?
478
00:22:25,909 --> 00:22:26,909
Yeah.
479
00:22:26,909 --> 00:22:29,368
Liam, Mindy. Sara.
She graduated.
480
00:22:29,368 --> 00:22:32,118
- She's gonna
crash here a few nights.
481
00:22:32,118 --> 00:22:33,410
She's the one that got
Sandusky arrested.
482
00:22:33,410 --> 00:22:34,993
You did?
483
00:22:34,993 --> 00:22:36,951
No. No, no.
I-- I didn't.
484
00:22:36,951 --> 00:22:39,201
He's fucking disgusting.
It's sick.
485
00:22:39,201 --> 00:22:43,243
Wait, she's, um,
she's the cub reporter, right?
486
00:22:43,243 --> 00:22:44,785
Does anybody
call you Cubby?
487
00:22:44,785 --> 00:22:47,034
Uh, no.
488
00:22:53,076 --> 00:22:57,451
Man: For 67-year-old
Jerry Sandusky, a jubilant
career at Penn State
489
00:22:57,451 --> 00:23:00,660
has dwindled to a perp walk
and prosecution.
490
00:23:00,660 --> 00:23:02,785
A Penn State graduate
team assistant
491
00:23:02,785 --> 00:23:06,451
allegedly witnessed
a 2002 rape by Sandusky,
492
00:23:06,451 --> 00:23:09,410
involving a ten-year-old boy
in a shower
493
00:23:09,410 --> 00:23:11,285
at Penn State's football
facility.
494
00:23:11,285 --> 00:23:13,451
The assistant told
Coach Paterno about it,
495
00:23:13,451 --> 00:23:17,285
and Paterno is said to have
told Athletic director
Tim Curley,
496
00:23:17,285 --> 00:23:20,618
and university official
Gary Schultz.
497
00:23:25,951 --> 00:23:27,493
Hi, I'm Sara Ganim,
498
00:23:27,493 --> 00:23:29,034
and I work
with the Harrisburg
Patriot-News.
499
00:23:29,034 --> 00:23:30,785
I was wondering
if I'd be able to ask--
500
00:23:30,785 --> 00:23:33,034
No. I'm not talking
to anybody. Thank you.
501
00:23:33,034 --> 00:23:34,493
You're Gary Schultz' assistant.
502
00:23:34,493 --> 00:23:36,993
- Get off the property!
503
00:23:36,993 --> 00:23:39,285
- OK. I just wanted to--
- Get off the property!
504
00:23:39,285 --> 00:23:41,618
- Okay, I'm getting off.
- Not fast enough!
505
00:23:41,618 --> 00:23:43,743
OK! Fuck.
506
00:23:43,743 --> 00:23:45,618
- Newhouse: Hey. So, uh,
507
00:23:45,618 --> 00:23:47,827
after two days
of complete and utter silence,
508
00:23:47,827 --> 00:23:50,493
the national news finally
noticed we published a story.
509
00:23:50,493 --> 00:23:51,993
You got time to talk to CNN?
510
00:23:51,993 --> 00:23:53,702
Yeah, I just
need a minute.
511
00:23:53,702 --> 00:23:56,201
I've got somebody
who's really... excited.
512
00:23:56,201 --> 00:24:00,243
Man: How dare you
to disturb my wife like that!
513
00:24:00,243 --> 00:24:02,577
Woman:
The Pennsylvania
attorney general
514
00:24:02,577 --> 00:24:04,368
says that coach Paterno
515
00:24:04,368 --> 00:24:07,076
is facing no criminal charges
because he followed the law
516
00:24:07,076 --> 00:24:10,493
by quickly telling what he knew
to his superiors.
517
00:24:10,493 --> 00:24:14,868
What she didn't say was if
he had a moral obligation
to do more.
518
00:24:14,868 --> 00:24:17,243
Scott: Steve Garban's
pretending he's not home.
519
00:24:17,243 --> 00:24:20,868
Mary: No one from the board
of trustees will answer
our call.
520
00:24:20,868 --> 00:24:22,535
Guido:
Mother of Christ.
521
00:24:22,535 --> 00:24:23,702
Put out a damn statement
522
00:24:23,702 --> 00:24:25,368
so we can be through
with this already.
523
00:24:25,368 --> 00:24:26,702
We should have
done it six months ago
524
00:24:26,702 --> 00:24:28,201
when it first
came out in the paper.
525
00:24:28,201 --> 00:24:29,951
People need
to hear from you.
526
00:24:29,951 --> 00:24:32,034
This is not
a smart move, Guido.
527
00:24:32,034 --> 00:24:35,159
- I'm not a judge, but...
- OK.
528
00:24:35,159 --> 00:24:37,909
It's-- there's a legal process
happening here.
529
00:24:37,909 --> 00:24:40,368
OK. All right.
A legal process
happening here.
530
00:24:40,368 --> 00:24:42,827
- So...
- 'K. Legal process.
531
00:24:50,243 --> 00:24:51,702
Oh, my God...
532
00:24:51,702 --> 00:24:54,326
Oh--
533
00:24:56,076 --> 00:24:56,909
Ma?
534
00:24:58,368 --> 00:25:00,660
Mary:
Mommy?
535
00:25:00,660 --> 00:25:01,577
What's wrong?
536
00:25:07,410 --> 00:25:10,076
- It's shocking,
if it's true...
537
00:25:10,076 --> 00:25:12,909
- We're deeply saddened...
538
00:25:12,909 --> 00:25:16,743
When I heard what I heard,
I reported it right way...
539
00:25:16,743 --> 00:25:18,618
- Uh...
540
00:25:18,618 --> 00:25:19,909
Tim and Gary.
541
00:25:19,909 --> 00:25:21,618
He did what he was
supposed to do.
542
00:25:21,618 --> 00:25:23,743
- Right. In 2001.
543
00:25:23,743 --> 00:25:27,410
544
I told the Grand Jury.
545
00:25:27,410 --> 00:25:30,034
Right, and you should say
what McQueary told you, right?
546
00:25:30,034 --> 00:25:32,909
Guido:
"An assistant coach
informed me that--"
547
00:25:32,909 --> 00:25:36,034
An assistant coach
informed me what?
548
00:25:36,034 --> 00:25:39,285
McQueary couldn't put his--
a sentence together.
549
00:25:39,285 --> 00:25:42,243
He couldn't catch his breath.
He was all over the place.
550
00:25:42,243 --> 00:25:46,451
So, he told you
that they were having sex?
551
00:25:46,451 --> 00:25:47,785
No, he didn't--
552
00:25:47,785 --> 00:25:49,827
He didn't know
what he saw. Come on.
553
00:25:49,827 --> 00:25:51,951
They were touching maybe.
Who knows?
554
00:25:51,951 --> 00:25:54,577
All I know is
what he saw upset him.
555
00:25:54,577 --> 00:25:55,868
That's-- That's-- That's--
556
00:25:55,868 --> 00:25:58,951
He -- He was--
He was, uh, rattled.
557
00:25:58,951 --> 00:26:00,577
Ya know? Something happened.
558
00:26:00,577 --> 00:26:03,827
But, so why does
the presentment
say anal rape?
559
00:26:06,410 --> 00:26:09,118
- It says anal sex.
- Oh, well, you're the lawyer.
560
00:26:09,118 --> 00:26:12,577
Mary: There's no such thing
as consensual anal
with a ten-year old....
561
00:26:18,034 --> 00:26:21,909
He was distraught!
He was, he was--
He didn't make sense!
562
00:26:21,909 --> 00:26:25,951
It was clear whatever
he was talking about
was inappropriate.
563
00:26:25,951 --> 00:26:27,159
I-- I got that.
564
00:26:27,159 --> 00:26:31,827
So, I called Tim,
and I called, uh, Gary.
565
00:26:31,827 --> 00:26:35,034
And, uh, and, uh--
and if it's true,
566
00:26:35,034 --> 00:26:38,868
I get everybody's upset.
We're upset.
567
00:26:38,868 --> 00:26:41,493
But meanwhile, you gotta--
you gotta let,
568
00:26:41,493 --> 00:26:44,076
uh, legal process unfold--
569
00:26:44,076 --> 00:26:46,410
Scott:
Dad, did you know
570
00:26:46,410 --> 00:26:50,118
anything else
about, uh, Jerry?
571
00:26:50,118 --> 00:26:52,326
What do you mean?
Why are you saying that?
572
00:26:52,326 --> 00:26:54,827
- I just told you.
- I don't know, but--
573
00:26:54,827 --> 00:26:57,076
- When you read it,
you can see
574
00:26:57,076 --> 00:26:58,827
the guy had a clear problem.
Ya know? Maybe--
575
00:26:58,827 --> 00:27:00,368
I didn't read the thing.
576
00:27:00,368 --> 00:27:03,034
You told me about the thing...
Scott,
577
00:27:03,034 --> 00:27:04,535
and then you told me again.
578
00:27:04,535 --> 00:27:06,660
- I know. I'm just saying--
- So I know.
579
00:27:06,660 --> 00:27:08,368
So, you're badgering me.
580
00:27:08,368 --> 00:27:09,868
You're badgering me,
I don't like it.
581
00:27:09,868 --> 00:27:11,451
I got a game to prepare for.
582
00:27:11,451 --> 00:27:14,076
That's what's important
to me now, Scott.
583
00:27:14,076 --> 00:27:15,410
Whatever these things are--
584
00:27:15,410 --> 00:27:18,034
People think
that you knew
about all of it.
585
00:27:18,034 --> 00:27:21,285
- But I don't care
what people think!
- 2001. 1998.
586
00:27:21,285 --> 00:27:23,410
"Well, JoePa runs the school.
How could he not know?"
587
00:27:23,410 --> 00:27:25,577
Well, I didn't know.
I don't know what they're
talking about.
588
00:27:25,577 --> 00:27:27,868
I didn't know--
What-- What am I,
omniscient here?
589
00:27:27,868 --> 00:27:29,993
Well, yeah, that's what
they think you are,
590
00:27:29,993 --> 00:27:31,785
- and they're writing stories.
591
00:27:31,785 --> 00:27:33,535
"There's something funny
about this Jerry guy."
592
00:27:33,535 --> 00:27:34,702
Nothing like that?
593
00:27:34,702 --> 00:27:36,076
What happened to you?
594
00:27:36,076 --> 00:27:38,535
You're telling me
about a rumor?
595
00:27:38,535 --> 00:27:39,827
A rumor?
596
00:27:39,827 --> 00:27:41,034
What's that?
597
00:27:41,034 --> 00:27:42,951
Is that why I sent you
to law school?
598
00:27:42,951 --> 00:27:45,410
Gossip like that,
what it does to people?
599
00:27:45,410 --> 00:27:49,076
You have any idea--
What about your Uncle George?
600
00:27:49,076 --> 00:27:51,827
Huh? How come he wasn't married.
601
00:27:51,827 --> 00:27:54,451
Everybody said,
"Something's wrong with him.
602
00:27:54,451 --> 00:27:56,785
Whatever this is,
I don't understand it.
603
00:27:58,827 --> 00:28:00,577
It's garbage!
604
00:28:00,577 --> 00:28:03,285
Jerry Sandusky.
What is he?
605
00:28:03,285 --> 00:28:08,451
I thought he was--
he was unfocused
and such a pain in the butt,
606
00:28:08,451 --> 00:28:12,243
but yes, uh, kids were--
607
00:28:12,243 --> 00:28:14,577
he had kids around all the time.
608
00:28:14,577 --> 00:28:18,410
These were hopeless,
helpless, lost causes.
609
00:28:18,410 --> 00:28:21,285
He started the biggest charity
in the history of this state.
610
00:28:21,285 --> 00:28:25,159
Every heavy hitter,
every high roller
donating every week,
611
00:28:25,159 --> 00:28:27,951
checks coming in by the dozens.
612
00:28:27,951 --> 00:28:29,785
I never saw anything like it.
613
00:28:29,785 --> 00:28:33,951
He's honored by the president
of the United States.
614
00:28:37,785 --> 00:28:39,285
I got a statement.
615
00:28:41,660 --> 00:28:47,702
Sue and I...
have devoted our whole lives
to helping young people.
616
00:28:47,702 --> 00:28:51,618
The fact that someone
we thought we knew
617
00:28:51,618 --> 00:28:54,785
might have harmed young people
like this,
618
00:28:54,785 --> 00:28:57,868
if it's true...
619
00:28:57,868 --> 00:29:02,993
well, we were fooled...
along with a whole bunch
of professionals
620
00:29:02,993 --> 00:29:06,159
who are trained
in this kind of thing.
621
00:29:07,993 --> 00:29:09,368
And we're sorry.
622
00:29:12,660 --> 00:29:15,618
We are grieving...
623
00:29:15,618 --> 00:29:17,368
for all of them.
624
00:29:21,201 --> 00:29:24,368
We'll release that.
625
00:29:24,368 --> 00:29:26,285
That's the end of it.
626
00:29:26,285 --> 00:29:27,868
I have practice.
627
00:29:55,118 --> 00:29:56,577
Man:
Here to say a few words
628
00:29:56,577 --> 00:29:59,243
about our guest of honor
Jerry Sandusky
629
00:29:59,243 --> 00:30:00,827
is his long-time colleague,
630
00:30:00,827 --> 00:30:03,410
mentor and friend
of over 30 years,
631
00:30:03,410 --> 00:30:08,743
head coach of Penn State
Nittany Lions, Joe Paterno.
632
00:30:13,326 --> 00:30:14,868
Paterno:
Jerry and Dottie,
633
00:30:14,868 --> 00:30:17,535
they always had kids,
they adopted kids,
634
00:30:17,535 --> 00:30:19,076
they-- they fostered children--
635
00:30:19,076 --> 00:30:21,326
all the time,
everywhere I look,
636
00:30:21,326 --> 00:30:23,285
there was kids, kids--
kids kept appearing.
637
00:30:23,285 --> 00:30:25,201
I didn't know what
was goin' on.
638
00:30:25,201 --> 00:30:26,702
I said, "What are they doing?"
639
00:30:26,702 --> 00:30:29,410
I mean, I thought
they were their kids, right?
640
00:30:29,410 --> 00:30:31,909
Little did I know,
it turns out,
641
00:30:31,909 --> 00:30:35,201
Uh, Jerry started this,
uh, charity.
642
00:30:37,868 --> 00:30:42,076
This wonderful thing, ya know?
All these kids, uh--
643
00:30:42,076 --> 00:30:47,201
I had no idea. I had no idea...
644
00:30:47,201 --> 00:30:49,410
I had no idea.
645
00:30:49,410 --> 00:30:53,909
All these kids, all these kids,
all these kids...
646
00:30:53,909 --> 00:30:55,743
Hundreds, hundreds of children.
647
00:30:55,743 --> 00:30:58,493
-Thousands.
- Thousands!
648
00:30:58,493 --> 00:31:00,368
Thousands! Thousands!
649
00:31:00,368 --> 00:31:03,159
- That's awesome.
650
00:31:17,285 --> 00:31:21,451
Coach:
OK, so we'll start with Matt.
He's working out a little bit.
651
00:31:21,451 --> 00:31:23,577
Coach 2:
Watch his knee.
652
00:31:23,577 --> 00:31:24,785
You've gotta
be kiddin' me.
653
00:31:24,785 --> 00:31:26,285
These guys are
fucking animals.
654
00:31:26,285 --> 00:31:27,785
Coach 2: All right,
come on, guys.
655
00:31:27,785 --> 00:31:29,785
Closed practice.
Let's go outside, come on!
656
00:31:29,785 --> 00:31:32,743
JoePa's gonna give
his regularly scheduled
press conference tomorrow.
657
00:31:32,743 --> 00:31:34,368
Is this where
the locker room was
where the indicents took place?
658
00:31:34,368 --> 00:31:36,159
Could we just
get a couple shots--
659
00:31:36,159 --> 00:31:37,909
Good day to you, sir.
All right, come on.
660
00:31:37,909 --> 00:31:39,618
Outside. Outside, please.
661
00:31:39,618 --> 00:31:42,076
Tom, could we get a lockdown
on the last building, please?
662
00:31:44,326 --> 00:31:47,285
Man: I have no idea
why Mike McQueary is still
on this staff.
663
00:31:47,285 --> 00:31:49,493
He was a 28-year-old man,
664
00:31:49,493 --> 00:31:53,827
and he saw an older man
commit a sexual act
against a ten-year-old,
665
00:31:53,827 --> 00:31:55,368
and did nothing about it.
666
00:31:55,368 --> 00:31:56,785
He walked away,
and went home,
667
00:31:56,785 --> 00:31:58,493
and talked
to his dad about it.
668
00:31:58,493 --> 00:32:00,868
And then decided to see
Joe Paterno the next day.
669
00:32:00,868 --> 00:32:03,702
- All right, guys,
let's go! Ladder!
670
00:32:20,618 --> 00:32:22,410
- Shh!
671
00:32:22,410 --> 00:32:24,159
Are you Sara Ganim?
672
00:32:24,159 --> 00:32:27,326
I'm Hugh Lewison, with NBC.
Do you have a second?
673
00:32:27,326 --> 00:32:29,827
Oh, uh, I don't.
I'm sorry.
674
00:32:29,827 --> 00:32:32,410
I got, I got--
I got, uh, places to go.
675
00:32:32,410 --> 00:32:34,577
Just two seconds.
I just need a couple
of phone numbers.
676
00:32:34,577 --> 00:32:35,993
- Oh, yeah, no.
677
00:32:35,993 --> 00:32:37,285
I have a piece
that's got to run
678
00:32:37,285 --> 00:32:39,118
in, like, ten minutes,
679
00:32:39,118 --> 00:32:40,868
so I got to get
to my interview.
680
00:32:40,868 --> 00:32:42,827
Who are you
interviewing?
681
00:32:42,827 --> 00:32:45,326
Um, I'm sorry.
682
00:32:45,326 --> 00:32:47,326
Look, I just drove
four hours to find you.
683
00:32:47,326 --> 00:32:50,577
You're the only goddamn person
who's followed this thing.
684
00:32:50,577 --> 00:32:53,076
Can you tell me why I can't
find a police report from when
685
00:32:53,076 --> 00:32:56,451
McQueary reported
Sandusky in the shower
with the kid in 2001?
686
00:32:56,451 --> 00:32:58,868
I know, it's a real
head-scratcher.
687
00:32:58,868 --> 00:33:01,118
Do you have it?
You don't have to
show it to me.
688
00:33:01,118 --> 00:33:02,159
Just tell me if you've seen it.
689
00:33:02,159 --> 00:33:03,326
Read the article I wrote.
690
00:33:03,326 --> 00:33:04,909
There's no police report
from 2001.
691
00:33:04,909 --> 00:33:07,743
Man: But the indictment says
there was an investigation.
692
00:33:09,076 --> 00:33:13,118
No? Can you just nod
or shake your head?
693
00:33:13,118 --> 00:33:15,660
I'm being followed
by this guy from NBC.
694
00:33:15,660 --> 00:33:18,326
40 news organizations
want to interview you.
695
00:33:18,326 --> 00:33:20,785
- He's still following me.
696
00:33:20,785 --> 00:33:22,410
To interview the mom.
697
00:33:22,410 --> 00:33:24,618
You better lose him.
Keep him away from the mom.
698
00:33:24,618 --> 00:33:27,034
This is not
Starksy and Hutch, David.
699
00:33:27,034 --> 00:33:28,743
Go away!
700
00:33:34,577 --> 00:33:35,410
Thank you.
701
00:33:41,076 --> 00:33:42,577
- Oh, hey.
702
00:33:42,577 --> 00:33:44,618
- Yeah. Fine.
703
00:33:44,618 --> 00:33:46,410
They're, uh, gonna
bring me in today,
704
00:33:46,410 --> 00:33:47,618
but I don't think
they're gonna keep me.
705
00:33:47,618 --> 00:33:48,868
To jail?
706
00:33:48,868 --> 00:33:50,868
Oh, God, Gar.
707
00:33:50,868 --> 00:33:54,118
- Everything's
gonna be fine, Kim.
708
00:33:54,118 --> 00:33:57,034
Hey, uh, listen, Kim.
Could you do me a favor?
709
00:33:57,034 --> 00:33:58,243
Anything.
710
00:33:58,243 --> 00:33:59,785
Go into my office...
711
00:33:59,785 --> 00:34:00,618
OK.
712
00:34:01,909 --> 00:34:02,951
...to the desk.
713
00:34:02,951 --> 00:34:04,201
Yeah?
714
00:34:04,201 --> 00:34:05,827
Unlock the bottom drawer.
715
00:34:08,076 --> 00:34:09,201
Mm
716
00:34:09,201 --> 00:34:11,118
You see the transition file?
717
00:34:11,118 --> 00:34:12,868
Yep.
718
00:34:12,868 --> 00:34:15,118
Yeah, could you bring that
to the house?
719
00:34:15,118 --> 00:34:18,493
Of course. Anything else?
You want some food?
720
00:34:18,493 --> 00:34:20,201
No, no, no, no, no. I'm good.
721
00:34:20,201 --> 00:34:24,410
Okay, Gar. Call me
if there's anything at all.
722
00:34:24,410 --> 00:34:26,076
Yeah, yeah. Will do. Bye.
723
00:34:45,868 --> 00:34:49,702
No, no, no!
Don't hit yourself.
Hit him!
724
00:34:54,993 --> 00:34:55,993
Player: Set!
725
00:34:58,368 --> 00:35:01,493
- They're gonna move us.
726
00:35:01,493 --> 00:35:02,993
Dawn:
It's not safe.
727
00:35:02,993 --> 00:35:05,451
Since it came out,
people know who he is.
728
00:35:11,535 --> 00:35:13,201
Uh, you don't have to, uh--
729
00:35:13,201 --> 00:35:14,785
Aaron sleeps
on the couch
every night.
730
00:35:14,785 --> 00:35:17,827
Can't sleep in a bed
since Jerry's--
731
00:35:19,743 --> 00:35:22,076
Dawn: I don't know what
you need to ask anymore
732
00:35:22,076 --> 00:35:25,493
It's all on the thing online.
733
00:35:27,034 --> 00:35:30,201
He didn't want me
to read it, but...
734
00:35:36,326 --> 00:35:38,868
Ganim: Was there anything
that surprised you?
735
00:35:38,868 --> 00:35:41,034
I-- I didn't want her to know
the parts with, like--
736
00:35:41,034 --> 00:35:43,743
I was never in the room
when he told the whole thing.
737
00:35:43,743 --> 00:35:45,493
Not even at the grand juries.
738
00:35:45,493 --> 00:35:47,660
I wanted to.
739
00:35:47,660 --> 00:35:52,410
I mean...
it was so hard for him.
740
00:35:52,410 --> 00:35:54,034
He fainted, threw up--
741
00:35:54,034 --> 00:35:55,034
Mom.
742
00:35:55,034 --> 00:35:57,535
He says testifying was--
743
00:35:57,535 --> 00:35:58,743
Can I say?
744
00:36:01,535 --> 00:36:03,201
He says the grand jury
testimonies
745
00:36:03,201 --> 00:36:07,410
were the worst things
he's ever had to do
in his life.
746
00:36:07,410 --> 00:36:08,285
Other than...
747
00:36:18,702 --> 00:36:20,326
I am sorry you have
to talk about this again--
748
00:36:20,326 --> 00:36:21,909
It's bullshit, okay?
749
00:36:24,493 --> 00:36:26,702
Jerry's already out.
750
00:36:26,702 --> 00:36:29,993
The judge was a volunteer
at the Second Mile.
Sent him home.
751
00:36:29,993 --> 00:36:31,118
Unsecured bail.
752
00:36:34,660 --> 00:36:37,034
It's been three years.
753
00:36:37,034 --> 00:36:38,827
From the first day,
it's the same thing--
754
00:36:38,827 --> 00:36:41,285
- Shit. I'm sorry.
755
00:36:41,285 --> 00:36:45,285
Let me just try
and silence this thing.
756
00:36:45,285 --> 00:36:48,702
Um, what were you saying?
The, uh, first three--
757
00:36:48,702 --> 00:36:49,951
It's been three years?
758
00:36:54,159 --> 00:36:57,951
We reported it at the school
as soon as he said somethin'.
759
00:36:57,951 --> 00:37:01,618
We went to the principal,
Karen Probst.
760
00:37:01,618 --> 00:37:04,827
Write her name down.
Fucking bitch.
761
00:37:04,827 --> 00:37:09,618
You know what she said?
She told me, when I said,
762
00:37:09,618 --> 00:37:12,785
"Call the police,
that man touched my kid,"
763
00:37:12,785 --> 00:37:16,034
she said, "I think you should
go home and sleep on it,
764
00:37:16,034 --> 00:37:19,702
because I'm not sure this
is something you wanna do.
765
00:37:19,702 --> 00:37:22,660
You're very emotional."
766
00:37:22,660 --> 00:37:25,702
She put in
a cover-your-ass call
767
00:37:25,702 --> 00:37:28,993
to Child Services once
we were already there.
768
00:37:28,993 --> 00:37:30,660
If we hadn't raised hell,
769
00:37:30,660 --> 00:37:33,493
she would have pretended
the whole thing never happened.
770
00:37:33,493 --> 00:37:37,660
Oh, that Jerry--
he's got a heart of gold.
771
00:37:37,660 --> 00:37:41,034
Everybody loves him.
772
00:37:41,034 --> 00:37:43,368
He's not going to jail.
773
00:37:43,368 --> 00:37:45,285
I'm just gonna be another kid
on the front page
774
00:37:45,285 --> 00:37:47,993
in the newspaper
with a big "liar"
stamped across his head.
775
00:37:47,993 --> 00:37:51,660
Ganim: Look, I don't know how
this case is gonna turn out,
776
00:37:51,660 --> 00:37:53,868
but I can tell you
that right now
people look at you
777
00:37:53,868 --> 00:37:56,243
as the first person that's had
the courage to come forward
778
00:37:56,243 --> 00:37:59,868
and stand up to a really
intimidating public figure.
779
00:37:59,868 --> 00:38:02,201
And because
of what you did,
780
00:38:02,201 --> 00:38:04,743
now five other guys have had
the courage to come forward
781
00:38:04,743 --> 00:38:06,909
and do the same thing.
782
00:38:06,909 --> 00:38:10,201
There's no grand jury
investigation without you.
783
00:38:10,201 --> 00:38:12,076
You started this whole thing.
784
00:38:14,201 --> 00:38:15,577
And if you didn't
say anything,
785
00:38:15,577 --> 00:38:17,201
Jerry would still be
hanging out
786
00:38:17,201 --> 00:38:19,285
at Second Mile
with a bunch of kids,
787
00:38:19,285 --> 00:38:20,909
trying to pick his favorite.
788
00:38:31,368 --> 00:38:34,535
Bobby, go find Kate.
Go! She's at dance.
789
00:38:37,368 --> 00:38:38,577
That's Aaron's brother.
790
00:38:38,577 --> 00:38:40,243
He's ten.
791
00:38:40,243 --> 00:38:41,993
Yeah, that's how old
I was when--
792
00:38:54,076 --> 00:38:56,451
So, uh...
793
00:38:56,451 --> 00:38:59,326
just keep it
to football tomorrow...
794
00:38:59,326 --> 00:39:00,827
at the press conference.
795
00:39:00,827 --> 00:39:01,743
Yeah, I know.
796
00:39:04,909 --> 00:39:06,326
Did you read it?
797
00:39:06,326 --> 00:39:08,326
No, I didn't
read it yet, Jay.
798
00:39:08,326 --> 00:39:09,951
I didn't--
How am I gonna
read it?
799
00:39:11,243 --> 00:39:12,909
After Nebraska,
I haven't--
800
00:39:12,909 --> 00:39:14,410
I haven't
had the time.
801
00:39:16,076 --> 00:39:17,827
You know,
Scott gets worked up.
802
00:39:17,827 --> 00:39:19,702
Your mother gets worked up.
803
00:39:19,702 --> 00:39:23,076
That's not my job.
Understand?
804
00:39:23,076 --> 00:39:23,951
Or your job.
805
00:39:26,159 --> 00:39:28,118
We don't get worked up.
806
00:39:28,118 --> 00:39:31,618
You get hysterical
every time your team
gets attacked,
807
00:39:31,618 --> 00:39:33,326
that's a short career.
808
00:39:37,201 --> 00:39:39,951
Man:
Ya have to wonder right now
where Joe Paterno's head is.
809
00:39:39,951 --> 00:39:42,785
So much is swirling around him.
And, you know,
810
00:39:42,785 --> 00:39:44,368
maybe there's a little bit
of a disconnect,
811
00:39:44,368 --> 00:39:46,410
maybe he doesn't
fully understand
812
00:39:46,410 --> 00:39:47,951
the gravity of what's going on,
you know, he's talking
813
00:39:47,951 --> 00:39:49,951
about beating Nebraska
on Saturday.
814
00:39:51,076 --> 00:39:52,909
Man:
Good hit, good hit.
815
00:40:15,535 --> 00:40:17,785
Reporter:
Is coach Paterno
under investigation as well?
816
00:40:17,785 --> 00:40:21,285
No, he's not regarded
as a target at this point.
817
00:40:21,285 --> 00:40:22,618
But somebody needs to question
818
00:40:22,618 --> 00:40:25,118
what I believe
is the moral requirements
819
00:40:25,118 --> 00:40:26,868
for a human being that knows
820
00:40:26,868 --> 00:40:29,535
that sexual things
that are happening to a child.
821
00:40:29,535 --> 00:40:31,993
:
No whether you're
a football coach,
822
00:40:31,993 --> 00:40:33,451
or the university president,
823
00:40:33,451 --> 00:40:36,451
or the guy sweeping out
the building,
824
00:40:36,451 --> 00:40:40,660
I feel that you have
a moral obligation
to call us.
825
00:40:40,660 --> 00:40:42,827
Woman:
Commissioner, thank you
so much for being here.
826
00:40:42,827 --> 00:40:45,493
I know you spent 30 years
with the FBI,
827
00:40:45,493 --> 00:40:47,868
you say you have
never seen anything
828
00:40:47,868 --> 00:40:51,118
like the alleged sexual abuse
allegations in this case,
829
00:40:51,118 --> 00:40:56,577
and you say you want to know
why the police were not called.
830
00:40:56,577 --> 00:41:00,702
I don't want to criticize
Joe Paterno or anybody else.
831
00:41:00,702 --> 00:41:03,868
But any human being who has
this kind of information,
832
00:41:03,868 --> 00:41:07,243
or who has knowledge of child
sexual abuse, should call us--
833
00:41:07,243 --> 00:41:09,827
- Sue: Nobody wants to ask
834
00:41:09,827 --> 00:41:11,827
why Mike McQueary
didn't call the police.
835
00:41:11,827 --> 00:41:14,743
I mean, he was
the one who was there.
He's a grown man.
836
00:41:14,743 --> 00:41:16,577
He comes into my kitchen.
837
00:41:16,577 --> 00:41:19,118
Dad went
to who he thought
was the police.
838
00:41:19,118 --> 00:41:21,577
Ga-- Gary ran
the campus police.
839
00:41:21,577 --> 00:41:22,702
Right, Scotty?
840
00:41:22,702 --> 00:41:24,993
Gary also knew
about that thing in 1998
841
00:41:24,993 --> 00:41:25,993
and did nothing about it.
842
00:41:27,034 --> 00:41:29,285
Wait, what thing in 1998?
843
00:41:29,285 --> 00:41:31,368
Scott:
There was another kid, Ma.
844
00:41:31,368 --> 00:41:33,868
In the shower,
in the Lasch building.
845
00:41:33,868 --> 00:41:36,201
That kid told his mom,
his mom called the cops.
846
00:41:36,201 --> 00:41:37,909
The cops got Jerry
over to the kid's house
847
00:41:37,909 --> 00:41:39,993
while they were
in the other room listening.
848
00:41:39,993 --> 00:41:42,702
W
849
00:41:42,702 --> 00:41:44,368
- Yes.
- Yeah.
850
00:41:44,368 --> 00:41:48,743
And the mom says,
"You can't do this
ever again with anyone,"
851
00:41:48,743 --> 00:41:52,909
and Jerry says,
"I can't promise that"
with the cops listening.
852
00:41:52,909 --> 00:41:54,951
And they don't arrest him.
They just say,
853
00:41:54,951 --> 00:41:56,660
"Don't shower
with little boys."
854
00:41:56,660 --> 00:41:57,702
That was the end of it.
855
00:41:57,702 --> 00:41:59,118
How was that the end of it?
856
00:41:59,118 --> 00:42:01,909
Because all they had
was showering and hugging.
857
00:42:01,909 --> 00:42:02,909
Not a crime.
858
00:42:02,909 --> 00:42:04,743
A hug goodbye?
859
00:42:04,743 --> 00:42:07,201
Mary:
No. Naked, wet hugging.
860
00:42:07,201 --> 00:42:08,993
Sue:
And that's not a crime?
861
00:42:08,993 --> 00:42:14,159
Because the DA,
for some ungodly reason,
decided that it wasn't.
862
00:42:14,159 --> 00:42:19,618
Well, why isn't anyone talking
about the DA's moral obligation?
863
00:42:19,618 --> 00:42:21,702
Did Gary tell you
about that one too?
864
00:42:21,702 --> 00:42:24,201
Guido:
Why do you think the police
commissioner is trying to say
865
00:42:24,201 --> 00:42:26,410
that Joe has got
a moral responsibility?
866
00:42:26,410 --> 00:42:27,743
It's because they missed it.
867
00:42:27,743 --> 00:42:30,118
You know what?
Everybody missed it.
Everybody!
868
00:42:30,118 --> 00:42:31,451
How come no one's talking
869
00:42:31,451 --> 00:42:33,285
about the frickin'
Second Mile, huh?
870
00:42:33,285 --> 00:42:34,951
Those idiots.
They were told
what happened,
871
00:42:34,951 --> 00:42:36,451
and nobody decided to say,
872
00:42:36,451 --> 00:42:37,868
"Hey, maybe we should
keep this guy away
873
00:42:37,868 --> 00:42:38,909
from the hundreds
of little boys
874
00:42:38,909 --> 00:42:39,951
we got running around"?
875
00:42:39,951 --> 00:42:41,577
What was Gary thinking?
876
00:42:41,577 --> 00:42:43,243
Listen to this.
877
00:42:43,243 --> 00:42:45,743
"Schultz, equivocating
on the definition of 'sexua''
878
00:42:45,743 --> 00:42:48,118
in the context
of Sandusky wrestling with
879
00:42:48,118 --> 00:42:50,410
and grabbing the genitals
of the boy--"
880
00:42:50,410 --> 00:42:54,326
I mean, who equivocates
on grabbing a kid's genitals.
881
00:42:54,326 --> 00:42:57,285
Okay, let's go.
Let me have that thing.
882
00:43:14,410 --> 00:43:16,368
- Oh, great. Thank you.
- Of course.
883
00:43:16,368 --> 00:43:17,660
Is there anything else
I can do?
884
00:43:17,660 --> 00:43:18,993
No. No, you better go.
885
00:43:18,993 --> 00:43:20,577
You don't want 'em
getting interested in you.
886
00:43:20,577 --> 00:43:24,909
Yeah, um, I grabbed
another file
in case you need it.
887
00:43:24,909 --> 00:43:27,285
Oh, great. Thanks.
888
00:43:27,285 --> 00:43:28,535
Okay.
889
00:44:14,159 --> 00:44:15,827
An hour shower?
890
00:44:15,827 --> 00:44:19,285
Same as what happened
three years ago in '98.
891
00:44:19,285 --> 00:44:22,702
Why does the man
still have keys
to the building?
892
00:44:22,702 --> 00:44:26,493
It's part
of his retirement deal.
893
00:44:26,493 --> 00:44:30,993
Just tell the man
he can't come in here
with little boys.
894
00:44:30,993 --> 00:44:33,076
Cops told him that
the first time it happened.
895
00:44:33,076 --> 00:44:35,201
Didn't seem to make
much of an impression.
896
00:44:35,201 --> 00:44:39,076
Sit down with the guy
and explain that,
897
00:44:39,076 --> 00:44:42,909
under no circumstances, can he
come into university facilities
898
00:44:42,909 --> 00:44:44,076
with a child.
899
00:44:44,076 --> 00:44:47,493
No workouts.
No goddamn showering.
900
00:44:47,493 --> 00:44:49,951
All right, so we--
we talk to the charity,
901
00:44:49,951 --> 00:44:53,743
we talk to Jerry,
and we call Child Welfare.
902
00:44:55,577 --> 00:44:57,868
And they will file it
with the police?
903
00:44:57,868 --> 00:44:59,368
Yeah.
904
00:45:02,326 --> 00:45:04,618
This is a fucking nightmare.
905
00:45:13,785 --> 00:45:15,451
Man:
Will the court officer now read
906
00:45:15,451 --> 00:45:18,785
the charges
against Gerald A. Sandusky?
907
00:45:18,785 --> 00:45:21,909
Woman:
Sandusky performed oral sex
on Victim One
908
00:45:21,909 --> 00:45:23,868
on a number of occasions,
909
00:45:23,868 --> 00:45:27,285
had Victim One perform
oral sex on him,
910
00:45:27,285 --> 00:45:30,451
gives Nike shoes,
ice hockey equipment...
911
00:45:30,451 --> 00:45:33,451
...overnight at his residence,
basement, bedroom,
912
00:45:33,451 --> 00:45:37,118
performed oral sex on him
more than 20 times.
913
00:45:37,118 --> 00:45:40,618
Victim Four.
Attend the pre-game banquet,
914
00:45:40,618 --> 00:45:43,285
sits with Sandusky
at the coach's table...
915
00:45:43,285 --> 00:45:45,451
hotel room...
the Alamo Bowl...
916
00:45:45,451 --> 00:45:49,159
...Inserts his erect penis
into Victim Four's mouth.
917
00:45:49,159 --> 00:45:52,159
Attempted to penetrate
Victim Four's anus
918
00:45:52,159 --> 00:45:53,909
both with a finger
and his penis.
919
00:46:02,827 --> 00:46:04,493
What is sodomy?
920
00:46:04,493 --> 00:46:05,951
Scott:
Oh, come on.
921
00:46:05,951 --> 00:46:08,993
Uh, Achilles,
and, uh, Patroclus?
922
00:46:10,493 --> 00:46:12,785
Nessus
and, uh, uh, Uralus.
923
00:46:12,785 --> 00:46:15,118
W-What does he know
about these perverted things?
924
00:46:30,201 --> 00:46:31,993
Joe's having
a press conference today,
925
00:46:31,993 --> 00:46:34,034
so if we could do this
as quick as possible,
926
00:46:34,034 --> 00:46:35,285
I'd like to get over there.
927
00:46:35,285 --> 00:46:38,451
Do you have a hairbrush
or a comb?
928
00:46:38,451 --> 00:46:40,909
- Uh, no. no.
929
00:46:40,909 --> 00:46:43,702
- Uh, no. No.
930
00:46:43,702 --> 00:46:45,827
Huge bag and you don't
have anything.
931
00:46:45,827 --> 00:46:46,909
- Okay.
932
00:46:46,909 --> 00:46:48,201
Um, what do we think
about this coat?
933
00:46:48,201 --> 00:46:49,702
I think it's gonna strobe.
934
00:46:49,702 --> 00:46:51,577
Yeah. Let's, uh,
let's take it off.
935
00:46:51,577 --> 00:46:53,159
- Mh-hmm.
936
00:46:53,159 --> 00:46:54,451
I've got,
like, a yellow...
937
00:46:54,451 --> 00:46:56,034
yellow shirt on I can wear.
938
00:46:56,034 --> 00:46:58,201
Oh...
939
00:46:58,201 --> 00:47:00,702
Uh, you know what?
Let's keep it on.
940
00:47:00,702 --> 00:47:04,034
- Mh-hmm. Mh-hmm. Button up.
941
00:47:04,034 --> 00:47:05,201
Button up.
942
00:47:05,201 --> 00:47:07,368
Yeah, it's gonna
help you.
943
00:47:07,368 --> 00:47:09,785
Man: Legendary head coach
Joe Paterno getting ready
944
00:47:09,785 --> 00:47:12,326
for what may be the toughest
press conference of his life
today.
945
00:47:12,326 --> 00:47:14,702
Man 2:
These will be his first
on-camera statements
946
00:47:14,702 --> 00:47:18,951
since this scandal broke,
and the stakes are incredibly
high for him.
947
00:47:18,951 --> 00:47:21,660
Guido: Okay, that statement
we put out the other day,
it had no impact.
948
00:47:21,660 --> 00:47:23,868
We do it today,
we do it head on,
949
00:47:23,868 --> 00:47:25,909
on camera, and then it's over.
950
00:47:25,909 --> 00:47:27,493
Joe:
All right, McQueary told me
951
00:47:27,493 --> 00:47:30,076
he saw something
inappropriate,
952
00:47:30,076 --> 00:47:33,159
so the next day I called Tim,
953
00:47:33,159 --> 00:47:34,577
- Wait, wait--
- and he came over.
954
00:47:34,577 --> 00:47:36,118
Scott:
You called him when?
955
00:47:36,118 --> 00:47:38,535
I called him the next day.
956
00:47:38,535 --> 00:47:40,909
It was Saturday. Oh,
it was Saturday, yeah.
957
00:47:40,909 --> 00:47:43,577
I got the call, I waited
till the weekend was over
958
00:47:43,577 --> 00:47:46,702
'cause I, you know,
I wasn't gonna ruin his weekend.
959
00:47:46,702 --> 00:47:49,285
- He's got kids.
- Don't say that.
960
00:47:49,285 --> 00:47:51,285
Scott asked a question.
961
00:47:51,285 --> 00:47:53,243
Well, do you
want me to lie?
962
00:47:53,243 --> 00:47:55,577
You can't say
that you heard
about child abuse,
963
00:47:55,577 --> 00:47:58,951
and then you waited
a couple days so you didn't
ruin someone's weekend.
964
00:47:58,951 --> 00:48:02,034
I mean, presumably the rape
ruined the child's weekend--
965
00:48:02,034 --> 00:48:03,827
- Mary Kay.
- But put it this way:
966
00:48:03,827 --> 00:48:05,743
You hear about someone
diddling my kids?
967
00:48:05,743 --> 00:48:07,326
Don't wait the weekend!
968
00:48:07,326 --> 00:48:10,577
She's right, she's right.
You can't say it, okay?
969
00:48:10,577 --> 00:48:12,451
- OK, this should be football.
970
00:48:12,451 --> 00:48:15,034
Right? It's a weekly
football press conference!
971
00:48:15,034 --> 00:48:17,118
I mean, what are we doing?
We're sittin' around--
972
00:48:17,118 --> 00:48:19,618
They're standing out there.
There's people--
973
00:48:19,618 --> 00:48:21,451
Everybody wants to know
what happened.
974
00:48:21,451 --> 00:48:23,076
That's right. You do it,
and then it's done.
975
00:48:23,076 --> 00:48:25,410
- Right.
- Okay. Sure.
976
00:48:25,410 --> 00:48:29,285
Did you call the police?
977
00:48:29,285 --> 00:48:32,201
But it is a press conference,
Scott. It's not a deposition.
978
00:48:32,201 --> 00:48:34,451
Scott: It's gonna be a lot
worse than a deposition, Dad,
this is the media.
979
00:48:34,451 --> 00:48:35,993
They got nothing
to eat but you.
980
00:48:35,993 --> 00:48:37,660
So the press is going
to ask you
981
00:48:37,660 --> 00:48:39,243
why didn't you
pick up the phone
yourself?
982
00:48:39,243 --> 00:48:43,243
Michael McQueary was a mess
when he talked to me.
983
00:48:43,243 --> 00:48:45,201
Mary Kay:
What did the kid say happened?
984
00:48:45,201 --> 00:48:49,660
I didn't talk to the kids.
I talked to McQueary.
985
00:48:49,660 --> 00:48:52,410
Wait, so--
So who talked
to the kid?
986
00:48:52,410 --> 00:48:53,660
Was it Gary?
987
00:48:53,660 --> 00:48:55,368
I don't know
who talked to the kid.
988
00:48:55,368 --> 00:48:56,660
I don't know.
Who knows?
989
00:48:56,660 --> 00:48:57,660
Was he okay?
990
00:48:57,660 --> 00:49:00,159
- The child.
991
00:49:00,159 --> 00:49:02,326
Guido: I don't think
the press is gonna get
into this, hon.
992
00:49:02,326 --> 00:49:04,201
No, I'm asking, Guido.
993
00:49:04,201 --> 00:49:07,201
I mean, the kid knows
what happened.
What did he say?
994
00:49:07,201 --> 00:49:09,785
Well, I think nobody talked
to the kid.
995
00:49:09,785 --> 00:49:11,285
They-- they didn't find the kid.
996
00:49:13,827 --> 00:49:16,034
I don't-- I don't
understand what the--
997
00:49:16,034 --> 00:49:17,993
How could they not
find the kid?
998
00:49:17,993 --> 00:49:19,660
They could
just ask Jerry.
999
00:49:19,660 --> 00:49:23,577
Well, they didn't look for him.
It was an oversight.
1000
00:49:23,577 --> 00:49:26,034
- Wow.
- Oversight.
1001
00:49:26,034 --> 00:49:30,410
So did you ask about the kid
and they just never followed up?
1002
00:49:33,243 --> 00:49:34,868
Guido:
Mary Kay.
1003
00:49:38,577 --> 00:49:40,326
Did you ask?
1004
00:49:42,868 --> 00:49:45,368
Man: This is more
than a football legacy.
1005
00:49:45,368 --> 00:49:50,076
This is about people,
and if we can't protect
our kids,
1006
00:49:50,076 --> 00:49:53,076
we, as a society, are pathetic.
1007
00:49:53,076 --> 00:49:55,243
- Gar. It's Kim.
- Hey.
1008
00:49:55,243 --> 00:49:57,451
- Yeah.
1009
00:49:57,451 --> 00:49:59,326
Good. You okay?
1010
00:49:59,326 --> 00:50:01,827
Uh, yeah, super.
Listen, Kim, I really--
1011
00:50:01,827 --> 00:50:03,243
I made a copy...
1012
00:50:03,243 --> 00:50:07,743
of the file...
in the envelope.
1013
00:50:07,743 --> 00:50:10,785
- Okay.
- I'm sorry.
1014
00:50:10,785 --> 00:50:11,785
It's okay.
1015
00:50:11,785 --> 00:50:13,577
It's habit, you know?
1016
00:50:13,577 --> 00:50:16,410
I don't take anything
from the file without a copy.
1017
00:50:16,410 --> 00:50:18,243
Yeah, of course. Of course.
1018
00:50:18,243 --> 00:50:22,909
Um...I gave you
the original, Gar.
1019
00:50:22,909 --> 00:50:24,660
I shouldn't have done that.
1020
00:50:24,660 --> 00:50:27,243
Oh, it's fine, Kim.
1021
00:50:27,243 --> 00:50:28,785
Look, I'll bring 'em back
in the morning.
1022
00:50:28,785 --> 00:50:31,951
No, they won't let you
in the building.
1023
00:50:31,951 --> 00:50:36,076
I'm concerned
about hiding evidence
1024
00:50:36,076 --> 00:50:38,118
if the originals are gone.
1025
00:50:38,118 --> 00:50:41,326
There's, like,
fingerprints and things.
1026
00:50:41,326 --> 00:50:44,159
They look into all that.
1027
00:50:44,159 --> 00:50:46,076
What if they ask me about it?
1028
00:50:48,451 --> 00:50:52,951
I don't know, Kim.
Just tell 'em the truth.
1029
00:50:52,951 --> 00:50:56,909
Okay. Okay.
1030
00:50:56,909 --> 00:50:58,410
Thanks.
1031
00:51:02,451 --> 00:51:07,577
Curley :
Look, I met with Joe.
We talked about it, and...
1032
00:51:07,577 --> 00:51:09,827
to go behind Jerry's back
to his own organization
1033
00:51:09,827 --> 00:51:11,618
and the Department
of Child Welfare
1034
00:51:11,618 --> 00:51:13,785
before we've even looked
at the guy face-to-face
1035
00:51:13,785 --> 00:51:16,618
and asked him what happened
1036
00:51:16,618 --> 00:51:20,118
seems...
I don't know, inhumane.
1037
00:51:20,118 --> 00:51:21,951
What happened
to calling Child Welfare?
1038
00:51:21,951 --> 00:51:23,785
And, uh, fucking Second Mile?
1039
00:51:23,785 --> 00:51:26,660
Look, we just gotta
ask the guy what happened.
1040
00:51:26,660 --> 00:51:29,785
I mean, maybe-- I don't know,
maybe it's a misunderstanding.
1041
00:51:29,785 --> 00:51:31,868
Graham agrees. Joe agrees.
1042
00:51:37,326 --> 00:51:38,702
Who's driving?
1043
00:51:38,702 --> 00:51:40,159
Jay: Uh, come in my car.
1044
00:51:40,159 --> 00:51:42,451
I'll drop you home
after practice.
1045
00:51:42,451 --> 00:51:44,201
Yeah, there's a couple
of reporters out there.
1046
00:51:44,201 --> 00:51:46,076
Keep em to the side
so we don't run anybody down.
1047
00:51:46,076 --> 00:51:47,493
- Yeah.
1048
00:51:47,493 --> 00:51:49,993
Why-- Why aren't they
at the press conference?
1049
00:51:49,993 --> 00:51:51,451
Probably wanna follow you there.
1050
00:51:51,451 --> 00:51:52,993
Hey, you can moon 'em
on the way.
1051
00:51:52,993 --> 00:51:54,827
Scott, that's not
appropriate right now.
1052
00:51:56,951 --> 00:51:58,743
Says who?
1053
00:51:58,743 --> 00:52:03,326
Guys, they don't want
to do it right now.
The press conference.
1054
00:52:03,326 --> 00:52:05,285
We got practice
in 40 minutes.
It's now or never.
1055
00:52:05,285 --> 00:52:07,410
Yeah, well,
they don't want
a press conference today.
1056
00:52:07,410 --> 00:52:09,535
It's cancelled.
1057
00:52:09,535 --> 00:52:12,243
Without my permission?
1058
00:52:12,243 --> 00:52:14,285
Guido: Yeah.
1059
00:52:14,285 --> 00:52:17,076
Man:
Due to the ongoing
legal circumstances
1060
00:52:17,076 --> 00:52:19,785
surrendered around the recent
allegations and charges,
1061
00:52:19,785 --> 00:52:22,034
we have determined
that today's press conference
1062
00:52:22,034 --> 00:52:24,326
cannot be held
and will not be rescheduled.
1063
00:52:24,326 --> 00:52:26,618
We will not have
any additional comments
on this matter.
1064
00:52:26,618 --> 00:52:28,993
Woman: Never?
It won't ever be rescheduled?
1065
00:52:28,993 --> 00:52:30,702
Man:
Don't you guys feel
you have an obligation
1066
00:52:30,702 --> 00:52:31,702
to talk about this?
1067
00:52:33,493 --> 00:52:34,827
"Crime & Punishment,"
new developments
1068
00:52:34,827 --> 00:52:36,660
in the child sex abuse scandal
that has rocked
1069
00:52:36,660 --> 00:52:38,243
Penn State's
legendary football program.
1070
00:52:38,243 --> 00:52:39,993
Today a regular
weekly news conference
1071
00:52:39,993 --> 00:52:42,243
with Penn State's head coach
Joe Paterno was canceled.
1072
00:52:42,243 --> 00:52:44,326
It would have been his first
since the scandal broke.
1073
00:52:44,326 --> 00:52:46,243
Reporters were waiting
when he left practice.
1074
00:52:46,243 --> 00:52:49,243
- Guys, you got good questions,
1075
00:52:49,243 --> 00:52:51,660
but I can't--
I can't answer them.
1076
00:52:51,660 --> 00:52:55,076
Sorry. I just can't do it.
1077
00:52:55,076 --> 00:52:56,827
Cooper:
So far, two top
university officials,
1078
00:52:56,827 --> 00:52:58,285
Timothy Curley
and Gary Schultz,
1079
00:52:58,285 --> 00:53:00,410
have been charged
with failing to report
1080
00:53:00,410 --> 00:53:03,577
allegations of abuse
that occurred on university
property.
1081
00:53:03,577 --> 00:53:05,993
Sara Ganim, a reporter
at The Patriot-News.
1082
00:53:05,993 --> 00:53:08,368
Sara, you spoke to two
of the moms of the victims
1083
00:53:08,368 --> 00:53:09,827
allegedly
sexually molested by Sandusky.
1084
00:53:09,827 --> 00:53:11,076
What did they tell you?
1085
00:53:11,076 --> 00:53:15,410
I mean, both of them
are extremely--
1086
00:53:15,410 --> 00:53:19,993
feeling extremely let down
and betrayed by Penn State,
1087
00:53:19,993 --> 00:53:23,201
and those feelings
are coming from the charges
1088
00:53:23,201 --> 00:53:25,618
levied against him,
Curley, and Gary Schultz,
1089
00:53:25,618 --> 00:53:29,785
and then, the, uh, moral
allegations basically--
1090
00:53:29,785 --> 00:53:31,868
- Uh, I hope you can hear me,
1091
00:53:31,868 --> 00:53:34,451
there's loud airplanes
flying above us--
1092
00:53:34,451 --> 00:53:37,577
--uh, against Joe Paterno
and Graham Spanier.
1093
00:53:37,577 --> 00:53:40,577
Um, and, uh, one mom
in particular,
1094
00:53:40,577 --> 00:53:43,660
her son came forward in 1998,
was not believed,
1095
00:53:43,660 --> 00:53:47,285
and, uh, they feel awful
that other children
1096
00:53:47,285 --> 00:53:49,577
were victimized because
her son was not believed.
1097
00:53:51,785 --> 00:53:54,868
Woman:
The university cancelled
Paterno's news conference
1098
00:53:54,868 --> 00:53:56,785
just minutes before
it was scheduled to begin,
1099
00:53:56,785 --> 00:53:59,535
and the school freely admits
that the reason is because
1100
00:53:59,535 --> 00:54:03,451
of the child rape scandal
marring Paterno's program.
1101
00:54:03,451 --> 00:54:07,660
Calls for Paterno's resignation
are really starting to pile up.
1102
00:54:07,660 --> 00:54:09,326
Guido: I think it's time
to call somebody.
1103
00:54:09,326 --> 00:54:10,785
We need tactical advice.
1104
00:54:10,785 --> 00:54:13,159
- Like a crisis guy.
1105
00:54:13,159 --> 00:54:15,868
I don't know.
- Let me Google it.
1106
00:54:15,868 --> 00:54:17,118
Jay:
You're Googling it?
1107
00:54:17,118 --> 00:54:18,535
- Yeah.
- Oh, that's great.
1108
00:54:18,535 --> 00:54:20,243
Jay:
We're a major university
1109
00:54:20,243 --> 00:54:22,243
in the middle of a very serious
public relations debacle,
1110
00:54:22,243 --> 00:54:23,909
and you're solving it on Google.
1111
00:54:23,909 --> 00:54:25,410
- Joe!
- Mary Kay: Is that
what I want,
1112
00:54:25,410 --> 00:54:27,034
though, a public
relations spin?
1113
00:54:27,034 --> 00:54:28,702
- Scott: PR's marketing.
- Sue: Joe!
1114
00:54:28,702 --> 00:54:30,743
We already got a marketing guy
sittin' right here.
1115
00:54:30,743 --> 00:54:32,285
- Give me your phone.
1116
00:54:32,285 --> 00:54:33,951
- No, I can do it.
- Give me your phone!
1117
00:54:33,951 --> 00:54:36,076
Tell me what to put in.
What, like, a crisis manager?
1118
00:54:36,076 --> 00:54:37,577
- That sounds about right!
- No, no, no.
1119
00:54:37,577 --> 00:54:39,368
Crisis management.
A crisis management firm.
1120
00:54:39,368 --> 00:54:41,368
- Okay, I'm good now.
1121
00:54:41,368 --> 00:54:44,076
Why aren't all these
reporters over at Jerry's?
1122
00:54:44,076 --> 00:54:45,660
I'm calling Frank.
He knows somebody
1123
00:54:45,660 --> 00:54:47,243
who deals
with this kind of thing.
1124
00:54:47,243 --> 00:54:48,368
The car guy?
1125
00:54:48,368 --> 00:54:49,618
You're giving me crap
for Google,
1126
00:54:49,618 --> 00:54:50,702
and you want advice
from Frank
1127
00:54:50,702 --> 00:54:52,368
at the car dealership?
1128
00:54:52,368 --> 00:54:54,159
Doesn't the school
have a crisis manager?
1129
00:54:54,159 --> 00:54:55,493
Does it look
like the school has a--
1130
00:54:57,201 --> 00:54:58,535
Sorry, Ma.
1131
00:54:58,535 --> 00:55:00,493
- Okay. McGinn and Company.
- Okay.
1132
00:55:00,493 --> 00:55:03,368
Dan McGinn. "Helping clients
solve their most perplexing
1133
00:55:03,368 --> 00:55:05,909
and important
reputation challenges."
1134
00:55:05,909 --> 00:55:08,034
Huh? What is he, like,
on a top ten list?
1135
00:55:08,034 --> 00:55:09,743
Yeah, he's on a top ten list.
1136
00:55:09,743 --> 00:55:12,076
- Yeah, call him.
1137
00:55:12,076 --> 00:55:14,368
Sure, why not?
1138
00:55:14,368 --> 00:55:16,410
Scott:
Ask for Dan McGinn.
1139
00:55:16,410 --> 00:55:18,660
Mary Kay:
Oh, hi, hi. May I speak with--
1140
00:55:18,660 --> 00:55:19,535
Scott: Dan McGinn.
1141
00:55:40,159 --> 00:55:43,034
Ha. You're walkin' weird,
man, you get Sandusky'd
last night?
1142
00:55:43,034 --> 00:55:45,702
Yeah, he sucked me off
and then we played Xbox.
1143
00:55:45,702 --> 00:55:47,827
- Boy 1: It's a lie.
1144
00:55:47,827 --> 00:55:50,909
- Some fuckin' piece
of trailer trash set him up.
1145
00:55:50,909 --> 00:55:53,451
Yeah. Kid probably tried
to blackmail him,
1146
00:55:53,451 --> 00:55:55,577
Jerry told him to fuck off,
and he's like,
1147
00:55:55,577 --> 00:55:57,535
"I'm gonna sue your ass
for $20 million
1148
00:55:57,535 --> 00:55:59,660
- for damage to my rectum."
1149
00:55:59,660 --> 00:56:01,243
Total fabrication.
1150
00:56:01,243 --> 00:56:04,368
It's somebody
from the track team.
1151
00:56:04,368 --> 00:56:05,743
Our track team?
1152
00:56:05,743 --> 00:56:06,868
Yeah.
1153
00:56:08,243 --> 00:56:09,827
Did you see about JoePa?
1154
00:56:09,827 --> 00:56:12,285
Of course I saw it, man.
1155
00:56:12,285 --> 00:56:14,159
I don't even want
to talk about that.
1156
00:56:20,201 --> 00:56:21,618
Hey. Yo, you the faggot?
1157
00:56:23,326 --> 00:56:25,493
- Hey. Hey.
- Get him, get him!
1158
00:56:28,951 --> 00:56:29,827
Go! Go!
1159
00:56:34,951 --> 00:56:36,660
No showers, huh?!
1160
00:56:36,660 --> 00:56:38,493
Showers?
1161
00:56:38,493 --> 00:56:40,660
Trash
1162
00:56:40,660 --> 00:56:44,785
I'm gonna beat your ass, kid.
You fucking faggot!
1163
00:56:57,827 --> 00:57:00,326
Man :
I'm happy to come down, Guido.
1164
00:57:00,326 --> 00:57:02,326
I've been watching
the coverage.
1165
00:57:02,326 --> 00:57:04,285
It sure looks like things
have begun to spin out.
1166
00:57:04,285 --> 00:57:07,285
Yeah. It's making this school
look like shit.
1167
00:57:07,285 --> 00:57:09,034
They have no idea
how to get in front of it.
1168
00:57:09,034 --> 00:57:10,909
I'm sorry, you lost me
for a second there.
1169
00:57:10,909 --> 00:57:13,034
Are you looking for advice
for Coach Paterno,
1170
00:57:13,034 --> 00:57:14,159
or for the university?
1171
00:57:14,159 --> 00:57:16,201
For both.
1172
00:57:16,201 --> 00:57:19,743
The thing is, if you hire me,
the issue is, sir,
1173
00:57:19,743 --> 00:57:22,326
I'm not sure you and Penn State
are two entities
1174
00:57:22,326 --> 00:57:25,034
with aligned interests
right now.
1175
00:57:25,034 --> 00:57:28,451
Well, I never
thought of it that way.
1176
00:57:28,451 --> 00:57:31,577
Scott:
The guy just represents you,
so you've gotta pay for it?
1177
00:57:31,577 --> 00:57:33,368
When it's over,
they'll reimburse me.
1178
00:57:33,368 --> 00:57:34,785
Yeah, the university's
reputation
1179
00:57:34,785 --> 00:57:36,493
is the board's
responsibility.
1180
00:57:36,493 --> 00:57:38,034
This is their crisis.
1181
00:57:38,034 --> 00:57:40,702
They need to hire
a crisis manager, not us.
1182
00:57:40,702 --> 00:57:42,577
- Yeah.
1183
00:57:42,577 --> 00:57:43,702
What the hell is that?
1184
00:58:01,326 --> 00:58:06,243
We're here for them.
You don't leave 'em hanging.
1185
00:58:06,243 --> 00:58:07,868
- No, no. Joe-- Joe!
1186
00:58:07,868 --> 00:58:10,868
100 reporters.
You can't march
out there.
1187
00:58:10,868 --> 00:58:12,159
I should go.
1188
00:58:12,159 --> 00:58:14,326
No, no, I'll do it.
I'll do it.
1189
00:58:18,410 --> 00:58:20,702
♪ Male student:
Joe Paterno ♪
1190
00:58:20,702 --> 00:58:22,827
- All: ♪ Joe... ♪
1191
00:58:22,827 --> 00:58:24,868
- This is their home.
- They expect us to camp.
1192
00:58:24,868 --> 00:58:27,243
- Step back, man!
1193
00:58:27,243 --> 00:58:29,618
- ♪ Joe Paterno ♪
1194
00:58:29,618 --> 00:58:31,743
- Hey, everybody.
Joe Paterno!
1195
00:58:31,743 --> 00:58:33,618
Hey, everybody.
Hey, hey! Thank you.
1196
00:58:33,618 --> 00:58:35,743
Thank you very much.
We really appreciate
all your support.
1197
00:58:35,743 --> 00:58:38,993
We really do.
Before you go back
to cheering,
1198
00:58:38,993 --> 00:58:41,410
I'll ask you to take a moment,
you know, and say a prayer for--
1199
00:58:41,410 --> 00:58:43,034
♪ Scott Paterno ♪
1200
00:58:43,034 --> 00:58:46,034
- ♪ Scott Paterno ♪
1201
00:58:46,034 --> 00:58:50,034
Okay, look, look, look.
Hey, however this works out--
1202
00:58:50,034 --> 00:58:53,201
- Guys, however this
works out,
1203
00:58:53,201 --> 00:58:56,868
this is a terrible story
involving a lot of kids, okay?
1204
00:58:56,868 --> 00:58:58,577
And they--
They need our support too!
1205
00:59:01,076 --> 00:59:02,618
Scott Paterno!
1206
00:59:02,618 --> 00:59:05,410
Scott: I appreciate it.
I really appreciate it.
1207
00:59:05,410 --> 00:59:08,118
Guys, if you could just
listen to me for one second!
1208
00:59:08,118 --> 00:59:11,702
That's great, guys. Guys--
I got three kids, okay?
1209
00:59:11,702 --> 00:59:12,951
This is a huge--
1210
00:59:12,951 --> 00:59:15,076
- All right, guys.
1211
00:59:15,076 --> 00:59:17,326
- Thank you.
1212
00:59:17,326 --> 00:59:19,201
♪ Scott Paterno ...♪
1213
00:59:19,201 --> 00:59:23,785
Male student:
- Scott, is Joe gonna...
speak up....
1214
00:59:25,034 --> 00:59:26,451
Wow. So effective.
1215
00:59:28,159 --> 00:59:29,285
Fuck you, Jay.
1216
00:59:29,285 --> 00:59:30,785
Oh, Scott.
For heaven's sakes.
1217
00:59:30,785 --> 00:59:32,118
You can't just shut 'em off.
1218
00:59:32,118 --> 00:59:33,326
Joe could.
1219
00:59:33,326 --> 00:59:34,909
Joe's not goin' out
there.
1220
00:59:40,285 --> 00:59:41,201
Call him.
1221
00:59:50,743 --> 00:59:54,076
Hi. Dan McGinn, please?
1222
00:59:54,076 --> 00:59:55,785
It's Mary Kay Paterno.
1223
00:59:57,326 --> 00:59:59,326
Liam:
We saw the CNN interview, Sara.
1224
00:59:59,326 --> 01:00:01,660
What kind of bullshit was that?
1225
01:00:01,660 --> 01:00:04,326
You know, football programs
make millions of dollars--
1226
01:00:04,326 --> 01:00:05,326
Billions.
1227
01:00:05,326 --> 01:00:06,326
They make billions
1228
01:00:06,326 --> 01:00:07,326
of dollars every year
1229
01:00:07,326 --> 01:00:08,660
off football players.
1230
01:00:08,660 --> 01:00:10,285
But JoePa was the only one
who ever said,
1231
01:00:10,285 --> 01:00:11,702
you know, these are scholars,
1232
01:00:11,702 --> 01:00:13,535
they're here to learn
how to become men.
1233
01:00:13,535 --> 01:00:16,326
That's the guy
you want to shit on?
1234
01:00:16,326 --> 01:00:17,827
Like it's his fault
that Jerry's a queen.
1235
01:00:17,827 --> 01:00:19,285
I have to believe
you know the difference
1236
01:00:19,285 --> 01:00:21,034
between a gay man
and a pedophile.
1237
01:00:21,034 --> 01:00:22,868
Are you calling me a faggot?
1238
01:00:22,868 --> 01:00:25,243
Whether or not you're a faggot
has nothing to do
1239
01:00:25,243 --> 01:00:27,076
with the act of a child abuser.
1240
01:00:27,076 --> 01:00:29,326
If you're friend calls me
a fuckin' faggot one more time,
1241
01:00:29,326 --> 01:00:31,201
I'm gonna lose my shit.
1242
01:00:31,201 --> 01:00:32,368
Who are you even talking to?
1243
01:00:32,368 --> 01:00:35,993
JoePa made an ethos
in this whole place.
1244
01:00:35,993 --> 01:00:38,909
Like, it fucking mattered
that you got an education
1245
01:00:38,909 --> 01:00:41,034
because you're about more
than just yourself.
1246
01:00:41,034 --> 01:00:43,577
You're a school,
and you fight
for something together.
1247
01:00:43,577 --> 01:00:44,868
Juliet: She went to the school.
1248
01:00:44,868 --> 01:00:46,660
Liam: Yeah
1249
01:00:46,660 --> 01:00:48,993
Whoo. On your way down,
think about getting up.
1250
01:00:48,993 --> 01:00:50,827
Don't be afraid to lose.
1251
01:00:50,827 --> 01:00:52,410
The team that makes
fewer mistakes wins.
1252
01:00:52,410 --> 01:00:54,076
Cut your hair, wear a tie--
1253
01:00:54,076 --> 01:00:56,951
- That's literally all JoePa.
- I think she knows that.
1254
01:00:56,951 --> 01:00:59,201
You know why you read Virgil
in the original?
1255
01:00:59,201 --> 01:01:02,702
To gain a nuanced understanding
of coded language.
1256
01:01:02,702 --> 01:01:05,577
So when one of your guys says
that something fishy went down,
1257
01:01:05,577 --> 01:01:07,326
in the locker room,
in the shower,
1258
01:01:07,326 --> 01:01:09,243
with a 10-year-old,
you get the fucking gist.
1259
01:01:09,243 --> 01:01:12,159
Liam: She makes money
by telling lies.
1260
01:01:12,159 --> 01:01:15,535
She doesn't have a good lie,
she doesn't get a good paycheck.
1261
01:01:15,535 --> 01:01:19,201
Well, it must not be
a good lie, 'cause it's
a tiny fuckin' paycheck.
1262
01:01:44,660 --> 01:01:45,743
What have I--
1263
01:01:51,827 --> 01:01:54,660
Liability problem.
What is that?
1264
01:01:57,118 --> 01:01:58,118
Ohh.
1265
01:02:10,618 --> 01:02:14,285
Newhouse:
Who could've stopped it,
and didn't?
1266
01:02:14,285 --> 01:02:19,076
Some it's just lying,
and some of it's people hearing
1267
01:02:19,076 --> 01:02:21,159
- and not believing it--
1268
01:02:22,785 --> 01:02:24,159
Is she gonna be
on the Davis call?
1269
01:02:25,618 --> 01:02:28,326
Yep.
1270
01:02:28,326 --> 01:02:30,159
We need to be on the phone
with Lanny Davis at four.
1271
01:02:30,159 --> 01:02:32,702
Bill Clinton's lawyer.
He's representing Penn State.
1272
01:02:32,702 --> 01:02:33,909
Holy shit.
1273
01:02:33,909 --> 01:02:35,326
He's gonna scream a lot,
1274
01:02:35,326 --> 01:02:37,368
and threaten to sue the paper
into the ground.
1275
01:02:37,368 --> 01:02:39,909
Can he do that?
1276
01:02:43,076 --> 01:02:48,118
The cops. Gary Schultz.
He says he told Spanier,
Spanier said he didn't.
1277
01:02:48,118 --> 01:02:49,702
What's the likelihood
Schultz knew
1278
01:02:49,702 --> 01:02:51,743
and didn't tell
Tim Curley and JoePa?
1279
01:02:51,743 --> 01:02:53,243
Nobody take a shit
around there
1280
01:02:53,243 --> 01:02:55,326
without asking JoePa
for tactical advice, so--
1281
01:02:55,326 --> 01:02:56,326
But he says no.
1282
01:02:57,493 --> 01:02:59,326
The kid he raped
at the Alamo Bowl?
1283
01:02:59,326 --> 01:03:01,827
That was '99,
but I don't think
he told anybody...
1284
01:03:01,827 --> 01:03:04,368
- before the investigation.
1285
01:03:04,368 --> 01:03:08,577
A janitor sees Jerry
pin a boy to a wall, blow him,
1286
01:03:08,577 --> 01:03:11,951
but only tells another janitor
who's scared shitless of Joe,
1287
01:03:11,951 --> 01:03:14,159
thinks he's gonna get fired,
so no report.
1288
01:03:14,159 --> 01:03:15,159
2001?
1289
01:03:15,159 --> 01:03:16,451
Well, 2001, everybody knew,
1290
01:03:16,451 --> 01:03:17,660
but they called it nothing.
1291
01:03:17,660 --> 01:03:19,118
Horsing around
in a locker room.
1292
01:03:19,118 --> 01:03:20,410
Who
1293
01:03:20,410 --> 01:03:23,702
Spanier said he heard
it was conduct
1294
01:03:23,702 --> 01:03:26,326
that made somebody
uncomfortable. McQueary.
1295
01:03:26,326 --> 01:03:28,034
Wait, that's
what McQueary told him?
1296
01:03:28,034 --> 01:03:29,201
No, he never talked to McQueary.
1297
01:03:29,201 --> 01:03:30,243
Who met with McQueary?
1298
01:03:30,243 --> 01:03:31,618
Paterno, Schultz, Curley.
1299
01:03:31,618 --> 01:03:33,034
How do they describe it?
1300
01:03:33,034 --> 01:03:35,285
They described it as
"inappropriate conduct,
1301
01:03:35,285 --> 01:03:37,034
horsing around,
not that serious."
1302
01:03:37,034 --> 01:03:38,535
And what about JoePa?
1303
01:03:38,535 --> 01:03:41,743
He said that McQueary saw
something of a sexual nature.
1304
01:03:43,243 --> 01:03:44,951
What does Joe consider sexual?
1305
01:03:44,951 --> 01:03:46,285
I don't know.
1306
01:03:46,285 --> 01:03:47,951
What did McQueary say?
1307
01:03:47,951 --> 01:03:49,201
McQueary said what he saw.
1308
01:03:49,201 --> 01:03:50,451
The kid against the wall,
Jerry behind him,
1309
01:03:50,451 --> 01:03:51,743
rhythmic sounds.
1310
01:03:51,743 --> 01:03:53,159
Anal rape.
1311
01:03:53,159 --> 01:03:55,243
Probably, but I don't know
if he said those words.
1312
01:03:55,243 --> 01:03:58,201
He was trying
to communicate anal rape,
not snapping towels.
1313
01:03:58,201 --> 01:03:59,743
Well, I know that--
I just don't know
1314
01:03:59,743 --> 01:04:01,410
if we're on solid ground
to say that.
1315
01:04:01,410 --> 01:04:03,076
I don't know if he said
that to Joe.
1316
01:04:03,076 --> 01:04:04,702
Are we having
a role reversal here?
1317
01:04:04,702 --> 01:04:06,827
You choose your words,
you choose your reality.
1318
01:04:06,827 --> 01:04:09,201
How many people used words
that allowed other people
1319
01:04:09,201 --> 01:04:11,535
to understand crimes
against children
1320
01:04:11,535 --> 01:04:14,076
as what knuckleheads
do in locker rooms?
1321
01:04:14,076 --> 01:04:15,410
We're in this, too.
1322
01:04:15,410 --> 01:04:16,660
You're first article's
the reason
1323
01:04:16,660 --> 01:04:17,951
a bunch of these victims
came forward.
1324
01:04:17,951 --> 01:04:19,535
There's no case
without that.
1325
01:04:19,535 --> 01:04:20,577
You think I don't wanna use
1326
01:04:20,577 --> 01:04:22,076
the strongest possible language?
1327
01:04:22,076 --> 01:04:23,577
But when Bill Clinton's
lawyer calls you--
1328
01:04:23,577 --> 01:04:24,535
I'll deal with that.
1329
01:04:31,201 --> 01:04:33,785
Scott: He is the soul
of the university.
1330
01:04:33,785 --> 01:04:35,451
Anybody in this town
will tell you that.
1331
01:04:35,451 --> 01:04:39,577
Sue: We built the library,
and he quintupled the endowment.
1332
01:04:39,577 --> 01:04:42,410
- Mary Kay: $2 billion.
- This was a cow college.
1333
01:04:42,410 --> 01:04:44,909
Sue: They wanted a school
with a good football team.
1334
01:04:44,909 --> 01:04:46,577
But Joe always said
that they should be
1335
01:04:46,577 --> 01:04:48,660
a world-class
academic institution.
1336
01:04:48,660 --> 01:04:50,451
It's not a farm team
for the NFL.
1337
01:04:50,451 --> 01:04:52,785
Scott: It's a, uh--
it's a philosophy.
1338
01:04:52,785 --> 01:04:53,951
Mary Kay:
Like the dorms.
1339
01:04:53,951 --> 01:04:55,034
Would not allow...
1340
01:04:55,034 --> 01:04:57,577
an athletic dormitory...
1341
01:05:08,076 --> 01:05:11,243
Show him the "Why I hate
Jerry Sandusky" memo.
1342
01:05:12,702 --> 01:05:15,034
I don't know...
1343
01:05:15,034 --> 01:05:16,159
what this is.
1344
01:05:20,285 --> 01:05:21,326
What do you think?
1345
01:05:26,993 --> 01:05:30,951
Scott: If there was
a reason to fire Jerry,
he would have found it.
1346
01:05:30,951 --> 01:05:34,660
Okay, stop talking
about me like I'm dead, please.
1347
01:05:34,660 --> 01:05:37,827
I'm here.
The press is here.
1348
01:05:37,827 --> 01:05:40,034
Kids are shouting on the lawn.
1349
01:05:40,034 --> 01:05:43,368
Everybody wants to know
what I have to say.
1350
01:05:43,368 --> 01:05:45,118
So, it's time to say it.
1351
01:05:46,868 --> 01:05:49,493
And what exactly
do you want them to know?
1352
01:05:49,493 --> 01:05:53,410
Uh, a tragedy happened.
1353
01:05:53,410 --> 01:05:56,827
I did exactly
what I was supposed to do
1354
01:05:56,827 --> 01:05:58,577
as soon as I knew.
1355
01:05:58,577 --> 01:06:00,243
End of story.
1356
01:06:00,243 --> 01:06:04,243
Did other people know?
I don't know.
1357
01:06:04,243 --> 01:06:06,577
Did I know about rumors?
1358
01:06:06,577 --> 01:06:08,326
Who remembers?
1359
01:06:08,326 --> 01:06:10,493
I don't know
what I had for breakfast.
1360
01:06:12,243 --> 01:06:14,034
Sir, uh--
1361
01:06:14,034 --> 01:06:19,159
Point is, it's time to focus
on helping the university,
1362
01:06:19,159 --> 01:06:22,493
not talking about Joe Paterno.
1363
01:06:22,493 --> 01:06:24,827
It's-- What do--
1364
01:06:24,827 --> 01:06:28,493
It's got nothing
to do with me, truly.
1365
01:06:28,493 --> 01:06:31,034
What does it have to do with me?
1366
01:06:31,034 --> 01:06:33,493
McGinn: Coach, I have
so much respect
for you.
1367
01:06:34,951 --> 01:06:36,743
I followed your career
for a long time.
1368
01:06:36,743 --> 01:06:39,618
That's why I took the case.
1369
01:06:39,618 --> 01:06:41,577
This is the bad part
of my job.
1370
01:06:45,118 --> 01:06:46,743
You need to step down.
1371
01:06:48,159 --> 01:06:50,076
- You need to retire...
- Scott: Whoa.
1372
01:06:50,076 --> 01:06:52,660
and announce it
right away.
1373
01:06:52,660 --> 01:06:56,034
Scott: Okay, wait, wait--
Hold on--
1374
01:06:56,034 --> 01:06:59,076
I want to know, from you,
1375
01:06:59,076 --> 01:07:01,868
what not to say to the press.
1376
01:07:01,868 --> 01:07:03,909
That's why you're here.
1377
01:07:03,909 --> 01:07:06,577
I don't need career advice.
1378
01:07:06,577 --> 01:07:08,118
Scott: Dan,
we asked you to craft
1379
01:07:08,118 --> 01:07:09,660
a message
for the press.
That's it.
1380
01:07:09,660 --> 01:07:11,577
This isn't
about what he--
1381
01:07:11,577 --> 01:07:15,993
No. He can't go
out there.
1382
01:07:15,993 --> 01:07:17,909
He's used to being
the emperor holding forth
1383
01:07:17,909 --> 01:07:21,243
in front of a press corps
that just watched him win.
1384
01:07:21,243 --> 01:07:23,368
You're not disciplined enough
to go before the press.
1385
01:07:23,368 --> 01:07:25,034
- That's not true.
- Sue: Hey, he talks
in front of the press
1386
01:07:25,034 --> 01:07:26,785
every day, Mr. McGinn.
1387
01:07:26,785 --> 01:07:28,743
Ma'am, "What I had
for breakfast"
is what people say
1388
01:07:28,743 --> 01:07:30,868
when they're worried
that they do know,
1389
01:07:30,868 --> 01:07:35,577
and they're old enough
to think that they'll
get away with it.
1390
01:07:35,577 --> 01:07:37,951
I started saying it
to my wife when I turned 40.
1391
01:07:40,159 --> 01:07:42,660
You need to resign
before somebody does it
for you.
1392
01:07:45,868 --> 01:07:47,785
You've had
a great career.
1393
01:07:47,785 --> 01:07:49,410
Spanier: I'm gonna
recommend to the board
1394
01:07:49,410 --> 01:07:51,827
that 2005 be your last season.
1395
01:07:54,618 --> 01:07:57,618
McGinn:
How old are you, sir?
1396
01:07:57,618 --> 01:08:00,201
Sue: He's 84.
1397
01:08:00,201 --> 01:08:01,618
Paterno:
I may be 77,
1398
01:08:01,618 --> 01:08:03,951
- but I'm not old.
- Joe.
1399
01:08:03,951 --> 01:08:06,660
I've raised millions of dollars
for this university.
1400
01:08:06,660 --> 01:08:09,827
I graduate 85% of my players.
1401
01:08:09,827 --> 01:08:13,951
You wanna fire me...
1402
01:08:13,951 --> 01:08:15,660
try it.
1403
01:08:18,159 --> 01:08:20,618
McGinn:
Folks...
1404
01:08:20,618 --> 01:08:22,326
the question of whether...
1405
01:08:22,326 --> 01:08:25,326
Coach Paterno will retire
or be fired
1406
01:08:25,326 --> 01:08:27,827
is a big part of the public
narrative right now.
1407
01:08:27,827 --> 01:08:30,368
I want you all
to think about that.
1408
01:08:30,368 --> 01:08:33,326
( indistinct voices
in background )
1409
01:08:39,118 --> 01:08:40,368
You've had a great career.
1410
01:08:44,034 --> 01:08:47,201
Coach? A great career.
1411
01:08:56,243 --> 01:08:58,827
Man:
I'm very disappointed in JoePa.
1412
01:08:58,827 --> 01:09:01,827
To be honest with ya,
I've looked up to him
my whole life.
1413
01:09:01,827 --> 01:09:05,535
Why would he stick up
for a frickin' pedophile?
1414
01:09:05,535 --> 01:09:09,368
Why would this happen?
Help me with this.
1415
01:09:15,368 --> 01:09:17,034
Man:
Let's go, let's go, lets go!
1416
01:09:20,451 --> 01:09:25,285
Paterno:
Did I see a reverse throwback
to the quarterback?
1417
01:09:25,285 --> 01:09:27,909
Bone Right over 42.
Pitch reverse pass.
1418
01:09:29,535 --> 01:09:33,660
Well, don't practice it
unless you're gonna use it.
1419
01:09:33,660 --> 01:09:35,577
We'll use it.
1420
01:09:35,577 --> 01:09:36,410
Yeah.
1421
01:09:40,451 --> 01:09:41,451
So...
1422
01:09:43,993 --> 01:09:45,951
Uh, look, guys, uh...
1423
01:09:47,618 --> 01:09:49,535
Th-- This thing, uh...
1424
01:09:49,535 --> 01:09:52,410
is-- is-- is-- gotten, um...
1425
01:09:53,660 --> 01:09:55,951
you know, out of hand. So...
1426
01:09:57,909 --> 01:10:01,243
I-- I planned to, uh,
1427
01:10:01,243 --> 01:10:04,577
pack it in,
end of they year, anyway.
1428
01:10:04,577 --> 01:10:06,827
So...
1429
01:10:11,909 --> 01:10:13,868
Guido:
I am absolutely devastated
1430
01:10:13,868 --> 01:10:16,118
by the developments
in this case.
1431
01:10:16,118 --> 01:10:19,618
I grieve for the children
and their families,
1432
01:10:19,618 --> 01:10:22,285
and I pray
for their comfort
and relief.
1433
01:10:22,285 --> 01:10:25,451
I have come to work every day
for the last 61 years
1434
01:10:25,451 --> 01:10:27,410
with one clear goal in mind:
1435
01:10:27,410 --> 01:10:30,118
to serve the best interests
of this university
1436
01:10:30,118 --> 01:10:34,827
and the young men who have been
entrusted to my care.
1437
01:10:34,827 --> 01:10:37,577
I have the same goal today.
1438
01:10:37,577 --> 01:10:40,118
That's why I've decided
to announce my retirement,
1439
01:10:40,118 --> 01:10:43,535
effective at the end
of this season.
1440
01:10:43,535 --> 01:10:46,410
I love you all, guys,
I really do.
1441
01:10:46,410 --> 01:10:48,951
I want you to know
that we're gonna play
1442
01:10:48,951 --> 01:10:51,451
the rest of the season
together, awright?
1443
01:10:51,451 --> 01:10:53,368
That's the deal.
1444
01:10:53,368 --> 01:10:54,951
That's the new deal.
1445
01:10:54,951 --> 01:10:58,159
There's still a lot
of football to play.
1446
01:10:58,159 --> 01:11:02,827
A lot of interesting things
can happen to all of you.
1447
01:11:02,827 --> 01:11:08,535
I want that for you.
So, I want you to focus on that.
1448
01:11:08,535 --> 01:11:11,909
'Cause that's all
there really is, what we do.
1449
01:11:11,909 --> 01:11:15,076
The rest of this
is just something--
1450
01:11:15,076 --> 01:11:17,993
I mean, what happened
this last week...
1451
01:11:19,535 --> 01:11:20,993
is just--
1452
01:11:23,993 --> 01:11:28,118
It's not your fault.
You had nothin' to do with it.
1453
01:11:29,743 --> 01:11:33,243
But it--
It makes me feel bad...
1454
01:11:33,243 --> 01:11:36,577
that you, uh,
had to put up with it.
1455
01:11:38,993 --> 01:11:42,410
We'll always be
Penn State football players.
1456
01:11:42,410 --> 01:11:44,368
- All: Yes, sir.
- Yep.
1457
01:11:44,368 --> 01:11:49,243
Always, till the day we die...
1458
01:11:52,243 --> 01:11:56,410
Paterno:
I wish I could've
done more for those kids.
1459
01:11:56,410 --> 01:11:58,326
Can't say that.
1460
01:11:58,326 --> 01:12:00,201
It's an admission of guilt.
1461
01:12:02,368 --> 01:12:05,743
Well, is there any human person
looking at this
1462
01:12:05,743 --> 01:12:09,118
doesn't wish they could've
done something more?
1463
01:12:09,118 --> 01:12:11,034
You're gonna be misquoted.
1464
01:12:13,243 --> 01:12:14,785
I'm gonna be gone.
1465
01:12:27,243 --> 01:12:28,702
- Hi.
- Hi.
1466
01:12:28,702 --> 01:12:30,618
I'm so sorry.
Aaron tried to call me,
1467
01:12:30,618 --> 01:12:32,243
and I-- I was right--
1468
01:12:32,243 --> 01:12:38,243
I-- I know. There was, um,
a problem at school, and--
1469
01:12:38,243 --> 01:12:40,743
We're not talking
to any other reporters.
1470
01:12:40,743 --> 01:12:46,743
They all want to, but...
we said no to everyone but you.
1471
01:12:46,743 --> 01:12:48,451
You get that, right?
1472
01:12:48,451 --> 01:12:49,909
I-- I know. I know,
1473
01:12:49,909 --> 01:12:53,285
and I cannot tell you
how much I appreciate that.
1474
01:12:53,285 --> 01:12:57,410
Do you wanna talk to Mike,
Aaron's psychologist?
1475
01:12:57,410 --> 01:12:59,951
I mean, yeah.
That would be great.
1476
01:12:59,951 --> 01:13:01,577
Would Aaron be okay with that?
1477
01:13:01,577 --> 01:13:03,118
I'm driving down there tonight
1478
01:13:03,118 --> 01:13:05,951
and I could meet
with him tomorrow.
1479
01:13:05,951 --> 01:13:09,618
Dawn:
Yeah. Aaron says it's okay.
1480
01:13:09,618 --> 01:13:13,410
Woman:
Penn State football coach
Joe Paterno will retire,
1481
01:13:13,410 --> 01:13:16,118
but tonight
everyone is taking sides
on what he asked
1482
01:13:16,118 --> 01:13:19,410
in return to coach
four more games.
1483
01:13:19,410 --> 01:13:21,285
The poll conducted
on ESPN suggested
1484
01:13:21,285 --> 01:13:23,868
that 61% of the people
out there
1485
01:13:23,868 --> 01:13:26,118
think he should be allowed
that opportunity.
1486
01:13:26,118 --> 01:13:28,285
If you ask people
who are not sports fans,
1487
01:13:28,285 --> 01:13:30,660
you might get
a very different result.
1488
01:13:31,785 --> 01:13:32,660
Sue: Joe?
1489
01:13:33,909 --> 01:13:36,702
- Come on, Joe.
- Yeah.
1490
01:13:36,702 --> 01:13:38,743
Come on, hon.
Let's go to bed.
1491
01:13:38,743 --> 01:13:40,660
- I, uh--
1492
01:13:40,660 --> 01:13:42,285
Yes, I'm still home.
1493
01:13:42,285 --> 01:13:44,201
Yeah, that's enough work
for one day.
1494
01:13:44,201 --> 01:13:46,201
Come on, let's go.
1495
01:13:48,159 --> 01:13:52,076
I think--
hip is acting up again.
1496
01:13:53,951 --> 01:13:57,243
- Oh, man.
- Oh, yeah. I'll give you a rub.
1497
01:13:57,243 --> 01:13:59,993
They say that's the--
that's the good--
1498
01:13:59,993 --> 01:14:02,034
the best operation
you can get.
1499
01:14:02,034 --> 01:14:03,201
A rub?
1500
01:14:03,201 --> 01:14:05,827
No, a hip op--
replacement, yeah.
1501
01:14:05,827 --> 01:14:07,326
- You're not there yet.
1502
01:14:09,118 --> 01:14:10,785
I don't know.
1503
01:14:10,785 --> 01:14:12,285
I'll get--
I'll get it.
1504
01:14:12,285 --> 01:14:14,034
Okay.
1505
01:14:14,034 --> 01:14:16,326
- I don't know.
1506
01:14:17,868 --> 01:14:19,451
- Hey, Joe.
1507
01:14:19,451 --> 01:14:21,660
- Hey, Frank.
- Sorry to come here so late.
1508
01:14:21,660 --> 01:14:24,577
- That's all right.
- This is for you.
1509
01:14:26,743 --> 01:14:29,868
They'd, uh--
they'd like you
to call him.
1510
01:14:29,868 --> 01:14:31,868
Call him?
1511
01:14:31,868 --> 01:14:34,493
Oh. Yeah, thank you.
1512
01:14:39,660 --> 01:14:43,034
Well, the board
of trustees is holding
an emergency meeting
1513
01:14:43,034 --> 01:14:45,410
and there's a lot
of speculation here
on the future
1514
01:14:45,410 --> 01:14:47,368
of university president
Graham Spanier.
1515
01:14:47,368 --> 01:14:50,243
Will he resign?
1516
01:14:50,243 --> 01:14:53,368
Will the board ask him
to step down?
1517
01:15:01,951 --> 01:15:04,118
Yeah, it's Joe Paterno.
1518
01:15:13,118 --> 01:15:14,201
What?
1519
01:15:15,743 --> 01:15:16,743
They fired me.
1520
01:15:18,702 --> 01:15:19,785
What?
1521
01:15:19,785 --> 01:15:22,285
Yeah,
effective immediately.
1522
01:15:24,368 --> 01:15:25,660
- Joe.
- Yeah.
1523
01:15:25,660 --> 01:15:27,909
Joe, give me
that phone.
1524
01:15:27,909 --> 01:15:29,034
Let me have
that phone.
1525
01:15:38,201 --> 01:15:42,785
After 61 years,
he deserved better.
1526
01:15:58,577 --> 01:16:01,201
Man: ...the indictment
of Jerry Sandusky,
1527
01:16:01,201 --> 01:16:02,743
the board...
1528
01:16:02,743 --> 01:16:04,535
Newhouse :
Hey, listen.
1529
01:16:04,535 --> 01:16:06,618
Man on TV: ...Penn State's board
of trustees, tonight,
1530
01:16:06,618 --> 01:16:11,410
decided that it is
in the best interests
of the university
1531
01:16:11,410 --> 01:16:13,993
to have a change
in leadership to deal
1532
01:16:13,993 --> 01:16:18,118
with the difficult issues
that we are facing.
1533
01:16:18,118 --> 01:16:21,118
The board of trustees
and Graham Spanier
have decided that,
1534
01:16:21,118 --> 01:16:27,034
effective immediately,
Dr. Spanier is no longer
president of the university.
1535
01:16:28,868 --> 01:16:31,785
In addition,
Joe Paterno is no longer
1536
01:16:31,785 --> 01:16:33,493
the head football coach.
1537
01:16:33,493 --> 01:16:34,993
What?
1538
01:16:42,326 --> 01:16:44,285
Man:
Take that motherfucker down!
1539
01:16:44,285 --> 01:16:46,159
Joe Paterno is Penn State!
1540
01:16:58,243 --> 01:17:00,577
They fired him
with a phone call.
1541
01:17:00,577 --> 01:17:03,577
After 45 years, You know,
who the hell does that?
1542
01:17:06,201 --> 01:17:07,827
Student: He didn't give a shit
about winning.
1543
01:17:07,827 --> 01:17:09,535
Student 2:
He fuckin' won anyway.
1544
01:17:09,535 --> 01:17:11,201
It's a motherfuckin'
travesty.
1545
01:17:11,201 --> 01:17:12,660
Get off his fuckin' lawn.
1546
01:17:12,660 --> 01:17:16,118
Students chanting:
We want Joe! We want Joe!
1547
01:17:16,118 --> 01:17:20,118
We want Joe!
We want Joe! We want Joe!
1548
01:17:28,326 --> 01:17:30,326
Joe Paterno!
1549
01:17:30,326 --> 01:17:32,410
You're great, you guys.
1550
01:17:32,410 --> 01:17:37,368
You guys are great.
And-- And let me tell you this:
1551
01:17:37,368 --> 01:17:41,868
You know what I say, guys--
you know, I mean girls too--
1552
01:17:41,868 --> 01:17:45,410
- We love you, Joe!
1553
01:17:45,410 --> 01:17:50,993
Listen. You gotta-- You gotta--
You gotta study now, all right?
1554
01:17:52,785 --> 01:17:57,201
You gotta get
a good night's sleep
so you can study.
1555
01:17:57,201 --> 01:17:58,702
We still got things to do.
1556
01:18:01,577 --> 01:18:04,326
I'm out of it now, maybe,
1557
01:18:04,326 --> 01:18:06,076
that phone call put me
out of it,
1558
01:18:06,076 --> 01:18:08,909
but we're gonna go
from here, okay?
1559
01:18:08,909 --> 01:18:10,993
We're gonna go from here.
1560
01:18:10,993 --> 01:18:13,577
You know, because things
have ways--
1561
01:18:13,577 --> 01:18:14,909
they have ways of working out.
1562
01:18:14,909 --> 01:18:17,159
We want Joe! One more day!
1563
01:18:17,159 --> 01:18:19,243
We don't know
what's gonna happen ever.
1564
01:18:19,243 --> 01:18:20,868
Right? And the same with you.
1565
01:18:20,868 --> 01:18:22,410
So, take care
of yourselves.
1566
01:18:22,410 --> 01:18:23,868
It's important you do that.
1567
01:18:23,868 --> 01:18:27,702
Right? All right.
You're gonna be fine.
1568
01:18:27,702 --> 01:18:31,076
- Oh-- Oh, yeah. Yeah.
1569
01:18:31,076 --> 01:18:33,868
Good luck to you all,
but listen to me
just a second.
1570
01:18:33,868 --> 01:18:35,410
I thank you for coming.
1571
01:18:35,410 --> 01:18:40,618
Pray a little bit for the--
for those victims, okay?
1572
01:18:40,618 --> 01:18:42,451
We'll do that. Okay.
1573
01:18:42,451 --> 01:18:45,034
- Joe! Joe!
- We love you!
1574
01:18:45,034 --> 01:18:46,909
We are Penn State!
We are Penn State!
1575
01:18:46,909 --> 01:18:48,368
That's right!
1576
01:18:49,909 --> 01:18:51,785
We are Penn State!
1577
01:19:04,785 --> 01:19:07,993
We want Joe! We want Joe!
We want Joe!
1578
01:19:09,993 --> 01:19:12,410
Excuse me!
Can I ask you any questions?!
1579
01:19:12,410 --> 01:19:15,827
All:
We want Joe! We want Joe!
We want Joe!
1580
01:19:15,827 --> 01:19:18,076
What did you think
about happened to JoePa?
1581
01:19:18,076 --> 01:19:20,951
Kids got abused
and he didn't
tell the police.
1582
01:19:20,951 --> 01:19:22,201
You go to jail
for that.
1583
01:19:22,201 --> 01:19:23,951
- Let's go!
- Can I, can I--
1584
01:19:23,951 --> 01:19:25,660
Can I maybe quote you
on that?
1585
01:19:25,660 --> 01:19:28,493
No! I don't want
to get fucking killed
in my bed!
1586
01:19:43,034 --> 01:19:45,577
Young man:
The vice president
of the school
1587
01:19:45,577 --> 01:19:47,577
knew about it in 1998.
1588
01:19:47,577 --> 01:19:48,993
Heard about it twice.
1589
01:19:48,993 --> 01:19:51,577
You hear it twice
and you don't hang the guy,
1590
01:19:51,577 --> 01:19:52,743
you're just an hole.
1591
01:19:52,743 --> 01:19:55,076
Joe heard about it in 2001.
1592
01:19:55,076 --> 01:19:57,702
He reported it immediately.
1593
01:19:57,702 --> 01:20:00,868
But we're definitely
telling Second Mile,
right?
1594
01:20:00,868 --> 01:20:02,702
Curley:
Uh, yeah.
1595
01:20:02,702 --> 01:20:04,535
And-- and the Child Welfare
thing,
1596
01:20:04,535 --> 01:20:07,243
we're just playing it by ear,
and Graham's okay with that?
1597
01:20:07,243 --> 01:20:11,660
Well, Graham says the only
downside is if Jerry doesn't
get it and this happens again.
1598
01:20:11,660 --> 01:20:15,285
Then we're vulnerable
for not having reported it.
1599
01:20:15,285 --> 01:20:17,368
But we can deal with that
down the road.
1600
01:20:17,368 --> 01:20:18,993
Joe's fine with that.
1601
01:20:18,993 --> 01:20:20,702
- Yeah.
1602
01:20:20,702 --> 01:20:22,535
But he doesn't know
about the last time,
1603
01:20:22,535 --> 01:20:24,118
the thing from '98.
1604
01:20:24,118 --> 01:20:26,034
Yeah, of course he knows.
1605
01:20:26,034 --> 01:20:27,034
I sat down with him
when it happened.
1606
01:20:27,034 --> 01:20:28,618
He was all over me about it.
1607
01:20:28,618 --> 01:20:30,076
You sat down with him
1608
01:20:30,076 --> 01:20:31,410
when it happened?
1609
01:20:31,410 --> 01:20:33,076
He wanted
constant updates.
1610
01:20:33,076 --> 01:20:35,076
You ever keep Paterno
waiting on anything?
1611
01:20:35,076 --> 01:20:36,410
He's like a woodpecker.
1612
01:20:36,410 --> 01:20:37,451
We want Joe!
1613
01:20:37,451 --> 01:20:39,493
We want Joe! We want Joe!
1614
01:20:41,702 --> 01:20:44,909
Schultz: Tim, if Joe knows
this is the second incident--
1615
01:20:44,909 --> 01:20:46,577
And you're sure?
1616
01:20:46,577 --> 01:20:48,159
Curley: Look, I've--
I've got emails
1617
01:20:48,159 --> 01:20:50,577
up one side
and down the other. Yes.
1618
01:20:50,577 --> 01:20:53,201
I don't know.
1619
01:20:53,201 --> 01:20:56,743
Gary. If we need to report it,
we'll report it.
1620
01:20:56,743 --> 01:20:58,577
But we start with sitting down
1621
01:20:58,577 --> 01:21:01,034
and talking to Jerry
like a person.
1622
01:21:01,034 --> 01:21:02,326
Joe's fine with that.
1623
01:21:02,326 --> 01:21:06,827
- Yeah. Yeah, fine.
1624
01:21:06,827 --> 01:21:09,577
Sit tight, and this is
gonna get taken care of.
1625
01:21:18,493 --> 01:21:19,785
Man 1:
What do they do first?
1626
01:21:19,785 --> 01:21:21,993
They protect themselves first,
1627
01:21:21,993 --> 01:21:23,577
try to sweep it under the rug.
1628
01:21:23,577 --> 01:21:24,909
That's one thing
the Catholic Church
1629
01:21:24,909 --> 01:21:26,285
and Penn State have in common.
1630
01:21:26,285 --> 01:21:27,451
Man 2:
Joe's not the one who should be
1631
01:21:27,451 --> 01:21:29,159
taking the fall for this.
1632
01:21:29,159 --> 01:21:31,118
It's fuckin' Jerry.
Get the fuck off JoePa.
1633
01:21:31,118 --> 01:21:32,785
Man 3: It's the media
who singled out Joe Paterno.
1634
01:21:32,785 --> 01:21:34,785
They made him look
like a fuckin' villain!
1635
01:21:34,785 --> 01:21:38,493
You call him a legend,
then treat him like a legend.
1636
01:21:38,493 --> 01:21:40,285
Man 4:
Here's a man that was told
1637
01:21:40,285 --> 01:21:43,785
that a ten-year-old boy
was being sodomized
1638
01:21:43,785 --> 01:21:47,159
in his backyard,
and did nothing about it.
1639
01:21:47,159 --> 01:21:49,451
Woman: He has done so much
for this university,
1640
01:21:49,451 --> 01:21:51,034
and within the past four days,
1641
01:21:51,034 --> 01:21:52,785
everything we knew
of Joe Paterno
1642
01:21:52,785 --> 01:21:55,326
has been ripped away from us--
1643
01:21:55,326 --> 01:21:57,702
Man 4: And rightfully so!
He's as much of an animal
as the guy that did the act.
1644
01:21:57,702 --> 01:22:00,827
Man 5: Are you kidding me?
How stupid do you have to be
1645
01:22:00,827 --> 01:22:03,827
to go ahead and protest
over taking down
1646
01:22:03,827 --> 01:22:05,660
a ring of child abusers?!
1647
01:22:05,660 --> 01:22:07,159
Are you serious?!
1648
01:22:07,159 --> 01:22:08,660
Man 6:
Two years ago, we had no idea
1649
01:22:08,660 --> 01:22:09,909
and it was
a great football program.
1650
01:22:09,909 --> 01:22:11,493
Man 7:
Yeah, a few years ago,
1651
01:22:11,493 --> 01:22:13,410
you had several kids
getting raped.
1652
01:22:13,410 --> 01:22:14,993
Man 8: You guys have been
brainwashed by that school.
1653
01:22:14,993 --> 01:22:16,535
It's nothing but a cult--
1654
01:22:16,535 --> 01:22:19,451
Man 9: This has football
written all over it!
1655
01:22:19,451 --> 01:22:21,034
Man 10: He did exactly
the right thing.
1656
01:22:21,034 --> 01:22:22,535
If he had done any more,
1657
01:22:22,535 --> 01:22:24,785
he would have been criticized
for that...
1658
01:22:27,326 --> 01:22:30,159
Fuck the media!
1659
01:22:30,159 --> 01:22:32,410
Fuck the media!
1660
01:22:32,410 --> 01:22:34,951
Fuck the media!
1661
01:22:34,951 --> 01:22:37,410
Fuck the media!
1662
01:22:37,410 --> 01:22:39,410
Fuck the media!
1663
01:22:39,410 --> 01:22:41,076
Fuck the media!
1664
01:22:41,076 --> 01:22:43,285
We want Joe! We want Joe!
1665
01:22:43,285 --> 01:22:45,535
We want Joe!
We want Joe!
1666
01:22:45,535 --> 01:22:47,702
We want Joe! We want Joe!
1667
01:22:55,618 --> 01:22:58,660
Man:
Good morning to you.
It was really a wild night.
1668
01:22:58,660 --> 01:23:02,368
It all started after students
here learned that
Joe Paterno had been fired.
1669
01:23:02,368 --> 01:23:04,076
Man 2:
I think it was a witch hunt,
1670
01:23:04,076 --> 01:23:05,493
and everybody
got what they wanted.
1671
01:23:05,493 --> 01:23:07,243
Woman:
Back in 1998,
1672
01:23:07,243 --> 01:23:09,535
this should've
and could've stopped.
1673
01:23:09,535 --> 01:23:11,660
Man 3: It almost makes
Paterno look like a fraud
1674
01:23:11,660 --> 01:23:13,618
for everything
he always stood for.
1675
01:23:13,618 --> 01:23:15,368
Woman: And that's what he
has now opened himself up for
1676
01:23:15,368 --> 01:23:18,451
because he always
had the moral superiority.
1677
01:23:18,451 --> 01:23:19,618
Man:
Right.
1678
01:23:21,368 --> 01:23:24,159
Hey guys, guys,
can you just back off the car?
1679
01:23:24,159 --> 01:23:26,076
Jay, one question:
Was your father fired
1680
01:23:26,076 --> 01:23:28,410
because he didn't
tell the grand jury
everything he knew?
1681
01:23:28,410 --> 01:23:31,076
No, I don't-- we don't
have an answer for--
1682
01:23:31,076 --> 01:23:33,660
- Woman: ...Victim Six
in your locker room...
- Yes, OK, take--
1683
01:23:33,660 --> 01:23:35,410
Guys. Guys!
Will you,
1684
01:23:35,410 --> 01:23:36,827
out of respect
for the children--
1685
01:23:36,827 --> 01:23:38,118
That's why we're here:
the kids.
1686
01:23:38,118 --> 01:23:39,201
No, I--
1687
01:23:39,201 --> 01:23:40,493
All right,
your kids.
1688
01:23:40,493 --> 01:23:43,285
Sorry. Didn't see
them there. Sorry.
1689
01:23:43,285 --> 01:23:44,451
Thanks, man.
1690
01:23:46,785 --> 01:23:48,743
Okay. Okay, guys. Come on.
1691
01:23:48,743 --> 01:23:52,243
Just go straight up to see
Grandpa, all right? Come on.
1692
01:23:56,368 --> 01:23:58,368
Just go straight up.
Straight up.
1693
01:24:02,993 --> 01:24:04,451
Jay:
I'm gonna get canned.
1694
01:24:04,451 --> 01:24:07,410
Bradley wants me
to come talk to him.
1695
01:24:07,410 --> 01:24:10,951
I don't think
they're gonna fire you.
1696
01:24:10,951 --> 01:24:12,785
Why?
1697
01:24:12,785 --> 01:24:15,493
It's a witch hunt.
1698
01:24:15,493 --> 01:24:19,827
If they go for you,
there's no reason
they won't go for me.
1699
01:24:22,034 --> 01:24:25,285
The board of trustees wants
to make this all about us.
1700
01:24:25,285 --> 01:24:27,785
And football.
'Cause if they don't,
1701
01:24:27,785 --> 01:24:29,577
it'd have to be
about Second Mile,
1702
01:24:29,577 --> 01:24:30,827
where the guy
actually worked.
1703
01:24:34,201 --> 01:24:36,493
So who's gonna be
left holding the bag
1704
01:24:36,493 --> 01:24:38,326
if they can't blame it on us?
1705
01:24:40,410 --> 01:24:42,201
Oh, I don't know, ya know?
1706
01:24:46,577 --> 01:24:50,159
Dad, what exactly
did you...say?
1707
01:24:51,660 --> 01:24:53,951
McQueary came to me,
1708
01:24:53,951 --> 01:24:57,034
and he told me what he told me.
1709
01:24:57,034 --> 01:25:02,159
First time I ever
heard anything...like this.
1710
01:25:02,159 --> 01:25:04,618
So...
1711
01:25:04,618 --> 01:25:07,493
I knew I couldn't
handle it, so I went--
1712
01:25:09,493 --> 01:25:11,076
I mean, what am I gonna do?
1713
01:25:11,076 --> 01:25:15,493
Go runnin' with some things
I
1714
01:25:17,118 --> 01:25:19,702
So I went to Tim...
1715
01:25:19,702 --> 01:25:21,368
and Gary.
1716
01:25:21,368 --> 01:25:24,285
Why them?
1717
01:25:24,285 --> 01:25:28,201
I didn't see it, Jay.
1718
01:25:28,201 --> 01:25:31,034
I didn't see it.
1719
01:25:31,034 --> 01:25:35,159
Tim and Gary are all right,
I mean, they--
1720
01:25:35,159 --> 01:25:37,868
Ya know? Capable people.
1721
01:25:41,493 --> 01:25:44,535
You know, the best thing
about this job...
1722
01:25:45,993 --> 01:25:49,702
is the young people
you get to work with.
1723
01:25:53,159 --> 01:25:57,909
You see 'em come up
as young kids... and mature.
1724
01:26:00,535 --> 01:26:03,827
See 'em grow up...
1725
01:26:03,827 --> 01:26:07,201
overcome some adversity,
1726
01:26:07,201 --> 01:26:09,743
have some success.
1727
01:26:11,034 --> 01:26:13,577
They turn out
to be good people.
1728
01:26:15,410 --> 01:26:17,993
They come back and say,
1729
01:26:17,993 --> 01:26:20,743
"Hey, Coach.
1730
01:26:20,743 --> 01:26:24,285
It was so great...
1731
01:26:24,285 --> 01:26:26,951
being a Penn State
football player."
1732
01:26:29,951 --> 01:26:31,201
Yeah.
1733
01:26:33,410 --> 01:26:35,618
My name...
1734
01:26:37,660 --> 01:26:41,577
I spent my whole life
trying to make that name
mean something.
1735
01:26:43,201 --> 01:26:44,868
And it's gone now.
1736
01:26:57,827 --> 01:27:00,410
Man:
Aaron came forward
three years ago,
1737
01:27:00,410 --> 01:27:03,368
in this office,
after his school told him
not to report it
1738
01:27:03,368 --> 01:27:06,159
because Jerry Sandusky
had a heart of gold.
1739
01:27:06,159 --> 01:27:07,785
We contacted the police
that day,
1740
01:27:07,785 --> 01:27:09,785
and usually cases like this
it takes a week,
1741
01:27:09,785 --> 01:27:11,159
maybe a month, to get an arrest.
1742
01:27:11,159 --> 01:27:14,159
This took three years...
of waiting,
1743
01:27:14,159 --> 01:27:16,451
of a scared boy
telling a horror story,
1744
01:27:16,451 --> 01:27:20,076
to me, to a trooper,
to two other troopers,
1745
01:27:20,076 --> 01:27:22,451
to two other new troopers,
a grand jury,
1746
01:27:22,451 --> 01:27:24,827
then a second grand jury,
and a third.
1747
01:27:24,827 --> 01:27:26,451
Still no arrest.
1748
01:27:26,451 --> 01:27:29,159
He suffered from panic attacks,
1749
01:27:29,159 --> 01:27:31,368
insomnia, conversion syndrome.
1750
01:27:31,368 --> 01:27:33,076
I don't recall how often
1751
01:27:33,076 --> 01:27:36,743
or how many times
he tried to kill himself.
1752
01:27:36,743 --> 01:27:39,868
Attorney generals
have looked him in the eye--
1753
01:27:39,868 --> 01:27:41,326
in the eye--
1754
01:27:41,326 --> 01:27:45,368
"and said, "We're gonna
arrest this monster next week."
1755
01:27:45,368 --> 01:27:47,201
Then more months
would go by,
1756
01:27:47,201 --> 01:27:48,827
and then more months
would go by.
1757
01:27:49,951 --> 01:27:51,618
Three years he stuck with this
1758
01:27:51,618 --> 01:27:54,743
because he didn't wanna see
another kid get hurt.
1759
01:27:54,743 --> 01:27:57,285
What do you think
about the Paterno situation?
1760
01:27:57,285 --> 01:28:01,118
I honestly don't know
why anybody's talking
about Joe Paterno.
1761
01:28:01,118 --> 01:28:03,993
Somebody six months
from retirement failed
to see the big picture
1762
01:28:03,993 --> 01:28:06,159
and didn't
vigorously protect children?
1763
01:28:06,159 --> 01:28:08,785
Of course you goddamn fire him.
1764
01:28:08,785 --> 01:28:12,993
It's spectacularly unworthy
of conversation. I'm sorry.
1765
01:28:12,993 --> 01:28:16,034
A crime against
children happened--
1766
01:28:16,034 --> 01:28:19,535
why the heck is anyone
talking about Joe Paterno?
1767
01:28:19,535 --> 01:28:23,451
Man:
Coaches on the same staff
for 32 years...
1768
01:28:23,451 --> 01:28:28,243
Man 2: Coaching staffs
spend so much time together
in a room,
1769
01:28:28,243 --> 01:28:31,535
in the dark, with the film on,
and talkin', and--
1770
01:28:31,535 --> 01:28:33,410
these guys are all close.
1771
01:28:36,451 --> 01:28:38,368
He's not going
to prop his feet up.
1772
01:28:38,368 --> 01:28:42,493
He's gonna go help young people
in a program that he started...
1773
01:28:42,493 --> 01:28:44,909
What's this?
1774
01:28:44,909 --> 01:28:46,827
Alamo Bowl.
1775
01:28:47,909 --> 01:28:49,451
When was it?
1776
01:28:49,451 --> 01:28:51,535
Everybody wants dates.
I don't know.
1777
01:28:53,368 --> 01:28:57,410
Before he retired.
'99, maybe.
1778
01:28:57,410 --> 01:29:01,660
Which one is, um,
New Orleans?
1779
01:29:04,118 --> 01:29:05,577
Sugar bowl.
1780
01:29:05,577 --> 01:29:08,118
That was in the '70's
a couple times.
1781
01:29:08,118 --> 01:29:10,618
Yeah.
1782
01:29:10,618 --> 01:29:12,243
He went in the pool
with the kids
1783
01:29:12,243 --> 01:29:15,577
at the bowl games
in New Orleans and Miami.
1784
01:29:15,577 --> 01:29:18,951
Jerry did?
- Yeah.
1785
01:29:18,951 --> 01:29:21,743
Well, you didn't like
to go in the pool, remember?
1786
01:29:23,993 --> 01:29:26,868
I mean, you were working,
on a towel,
1787
01:29:26,868 --> 01:29:29,660
and, uh, I went in with them.
1788
01:29:29,660 --> 01:29:32,451
But I don't throw the kids up
in the air. The dads do that.
1789
01:29:33,577 --> 01:29:36,285
And they-- they scream.
1790
01:29:36,285 --> 01:29:38,285
They just love that.
1791
01:29:38,285 --> 01:29:42,118
What
1792
01:29:42,118 --> 01:29:45,951
Yeah. I-- I didn't do that
with our kids. Jerry did.
1793
01:29:48,285 --> 01:29:50,034
What are you saying?
1794
01:29:50,034 --> 01:29:51,702
I'm saying
you couldn't have known.
1795
01:29:51,702 --> 01:29:55,159
Otherwise you wouldn't have
let them go in the pool, right?
1796
01:30:05,577 --> 01:30:08,159
I had a job to do.
1797
01:30:11,702 --> 01:30:15,118
I was working.
1798
01:30:15,118 --> 01:30:18,660
I wasn't focused
on the goddamn pool.
1799
01:30:35,243 --> 01:30:37,660
Announcer:
For decades, Penn State
1800
01:30:37,660 --> 01:30:41,368
represented what was best
about college athletics.
1801
01:30:41,368 --> 01:30:43,159
For the past week,
it has reflected
1802
01:30:43,159 --> 01:30:45,951
what is often worst
about human beings.
1803
01:30:45,951 --> 01:30:50,618
And today,
for the first time
since late 1965,
1804
01:30:50,618 --> 01:30:52,660
Joe Paterno
will not be the head coach,
1805
01:30:52,660 --> 01:30:55,285
and those in Beaver Stadium
hope that they can aid,
1806
01:30:55,285 --> 01:30:58,451
in some small way,
in the healing process.
1807
01:30:58,451 --> 01:31:00,285
Penn State and Nebraska.
1808
01:31:00,285 --> 01:31:02,743
From University Park,
Dave Pasch will have the call.
1809
01:31:05,868 --> 01:31:09,118
And the Nebraska
and Penn State players,
1810
01:31:09,118 --> 01:31:12,868
currently sharing
the sentiments of many
around the nation,
1811
01:31:12,868 --> 01:31:15,535
gathering in prayer...
1812
01:31:15,535 --> 01:31:17,743
for the victims
of these aberrations
1813
01:31:17,743 --> 01:31:20,702
to show their solidarity
and support.
1814
01:31:22,618 --> 01:31:27,326
And obviously,
an emotional day
for many reasons.
1815
01:31:27,326 --> 01:31:29,034
A lot of Joe Paterno fans.
1816
01:31:29,034 --> 01:31:31,743
Paterno was to pass
Amos Alonzo Stagg today
1817
01:31:31,743 --> 01:31:34,410
for most games coached
in Division I.
1818
01:31:34,410 --> 01:31:37,118
Commentator:
It's been a week nobody
could've imagined here, Dave,
1819
01:31:37,118 --> 01:31:38,743
at the state college,
1820
01:31:38,743 --> 01:31:41,577
the reach and scope
of all that has happened...
1821
01:31:47,743 --> 01:31:49,410
Penn State!
1822
01:31:50,577 --> 01:31:52,243
Penn State!
1823
01:31:54,118 --> 01:31:55,743
Penn State!
1824
01:31:57,577 --> 01:32:00,243
Penn State!
1825
01:32:00,243 --> 01:32:03,577
Announcer: It's been
such an emotional week
for the Paterno family,
1826
01:32:03,577 --> 01:32:05,951
and this morning
Jay Paterno went by early
1827
01:32:05,951 --> 01:32:08,243
to see his parents,
Joe and Sue.
1828
01:32:08,243 --> 01:32:11,034
Fearful that he might
not be able to contain
the emotions,
1829
01:32:11,034 --> 01:32:13,159
he wrote a letter,
but he asked that his parents
1830
01:32:13,159 --> 01:32:15,785
not read that letter
while he was there
at the house.
1831
01:32:15,785 --> 01:32:19,618
"Wait to read it later,
after I leave, Dad"
is what he told Joe.
1832
01:32:19,618 --> 01:32:21,618
A letter to be read, basically
giving him the message
1833
01:32:21,618 --> 01:32:24,493
of what he means to him,
what this day means to him.
1834
01:32:26,076 --> 01:32:27,493
Martinez keeping,
1835
01:32:27,493 --> 01:32:29,159
and then pitching it
the last second,
1836
01:32:29,159 --> 01:32:33,410
and Burkehead is in--
touchdown, Nebraska!
1837
01:32:33,410 --> 01:32:37,993
And Nebraska has opened up
a 17-0 lead.
1838
01:32:39,785 --> 01:32:41,285
We hear in the background
1839
01:32:41,285 --> 01:32:43,868
chants from the student section
for JoePa...
1840
01:32:43,868 --> 01:32:46,368
Female commentator:
The Paternos must be
a letter-writing family.
1841
01:32:46,368 --> 01:32:48,118
Matt McGloin told me
that Joe Paterno
1842
01:32:48,118 --> 01:32:49,951
sent a letter to the players,
a short note,
1843
01:32:49,951 --> 01:32:52,243
and in that letter it said
that he was heartbroken,
1844
01:32:52,243 --> 01:32:54,159
sorry he couldn't be with them,
1845
01:32:54,159 --> 01:32:57,660
but he wanted them to focus
on this game and not on him.
1846
01:32:57,660 --> 01:32:58,951
Dave?
1847
01:32:58,951 --> 01:33:01,493
Pasch:
And McGloin fumbled the ball!
1848
01:33:06,118 --> 01:33:09,368
( broadcast continues,
indistinct )
1849
01:33:19,827 --> 01:33:22,159
...touchdown!
1850
01:33:22,159 --> 01:33:24,118
Two scores in five minutes
1851
01:33:24,118 --> 01:33:27,159
and Penn State is back within
three, with the football.
1852
01:33:27,159 --> 01:33:29,618
...there's always Joe Paterno
on what to do here,
1853
01:33:29,618 --> 01:33:31,326
whether to go
on fourth-and-one.
1854
01:33:31,326 --> 01:33:34,660
Penn State down three.
1855
01:33:34,660 --> 01:33:37,909
If McGloin gets the play off,
this'll be the final play.
1856
01:33:37,909 --> 01:33:40,285
McGloin running around...
1857
01:33:41,868 --> 01:33:44,868
...and it's incomplete.
Nebraska wins!
1858
01:33:56,076 --> 01:33:57,743
- Roll for me, Charlie.
- Right.
1859
01:33:59,201 --> 01:34:00,535
Oh!
1860
01:34:00,535 --> 01:34:04,451
The D came out in nickel,
stacked the strong side.
1861
01:34:04,451 --> 01:34:06,868
The O-line got no push.
1862
01:34:09,368 --> 01:34:10,201
What is that?
1863
01:34:11,868 --> 01:34:12,743
Hey, Dad?
1864
01:34:14,034 --> 01:34:16,743
Listen, I talked
to Merrick.
1865
01:34:16,743 --> 01:34:17,868
The Big Ten wants to...
1866
01:34:19,451 --> 01:34:21,535
...change the name
on the trophy.
1867
01:34:21,535 --> 01:34:22,535
Scott:
What?
1868
01:34:22,535 --> 01:34:24,368
The Stagg
1869
01:34:24,368 --> 01:34:25,660
What the hell
they gonna call it?
1870
01:34:25,660 --> 01:34:27,285
Jay:
I don't know.
1871
01:34:27,285 --> 01:34:29,909
I think we call Jim Delany
and-- and talk him down.
1872
01:34:29,909 --> 01:34:31,785
- It's a panic move.
- No, no--
1873
01:34:31,785 --> 01:34:33,702
- Dan McGinn should call.
- Yeah, you're right.
1874
01:34:33,702 --> 01:34:35,285
They're not gonna
announce till Monday.
1875
01:34:35,285 --> 01:34:37,076
If we get to Delany today,
then it'll be fine.
1876
01:34:37,076 --> 01:34:39,535
- Stop.
- No, this is not where we stop.
1877
01:34:39,535 --> 01:34:41,909
This is where we fight.
This is where it starts.
1878
01:34:41,909 --> 01:34:44,076
- We're in the fight
of our lives for this...
- Stop.
1879
01:34:44,076 --> 01:34:45,743
Stop!!!
1880
01:34:49,118 --> 01:34:52,076
No more. No more...
1881
01:35:17,285 --> 01:35:20,159
Sue :
He went in the pool
with the kids at bowl games.
1882
01:35:21,660 --> 01:35:24,451
Paterno:
Our kids?
1883
01:35:24,451 --> 01:35:26,451
Sue:
You couldn't have known.
1884
01:35:26,451 --> 01:35:29,159
Otherwise you wouldn't have
let them go in the pool.
1885
01:35:32,034 --> 01:35:33,951
Paterno:
I was working.
1886
01:35:33,951 --> 01:35:39,451
I wasn't focused
on the goddamn pool.
1887
01:35:39,451 --> 01:35:42,159
Sue: Joe!
1888
01:35:42,159 --> 01:35:44,451
Joe, get in the pool.
Go play with Jay!
1889
01:35:44,451 --> 01:35:47,785
Dad, come get in the pool.
Come here, Dad.
1890
01:35:47,785 --> 01:35:52,326
Joe, get in the pool!
Go play with Jay.
1891
01:35:52,326 --> 01:35:53,951
Jay:
Dad. Come here, Dad.
1892
01:35:53,951 --> 01:35:55,827
- Sue: Joe!
1893
01:35:57,660 --> 01:36:00,535
- Jay: Come here, Dad!
- Sue: Joe!
1894
01:36:42,535 --> 01:36:44,909
Aah! Oh my-- Aah--
1895
01:36:44,909 --> 01:36:46,493
Paterno:
Aah!
1896
01:36:55,285 --> 01:36:59,535
Man:
It's a small-cell carcinoma
in the left lung,
1897
01:36:59,535 --> 01:37:02,743
and it looks like
it's metastasized, which--
1898
01:37:02,743 --> 01:37:04,993
It's not what we want to see.
1899
01:37:04,993 --> 01:37:07,326
And we're gonna go at it
with all we've got.
1900
01:37:07,326 --> 01:37:08,785
That means chemotherapy,
1901
01:37:08,785 --> 01:37:11,410
and then, of course,
with radiation.
1902
01:37:11,410 --> 01:37:14,660
But given the bronchitis
you've got now,
1903
01:37:14,660 --> 01:37:17,785
your broken pelvis,
and your age...
1904
01:37:44,243 --> 01:37:46,118
- Just leave me alone.
- Get the fuck out of here!
1905
01:37:46,118 --> 01:37:48,285
- This is wrong.
- You're wrong, pal.
1906
01:37:48,285 --> 01:37:49,785
Everybody's got
an opinion.
1907
01:37:49,785 --> 01:37:50,951
What makes
yours special, huh?
1908
01:37:50,951 --> 01:37:52,368
Get out of here.
1909
01:37:52,368 --> 01:37:54,076
Man:
Get the fuck out of here.
1910
01:38:08,493 --> 01:38:09,951
Sara Ganim.
1911
01:38:11,951 --> 01:38:13,285
Hello?
1912
01:38:13,285 --> 01:38:14,702
Man: Hi.
1913
01:38:14,702 --> 01:38:17,159
H
1914
01:38:17,159 --> 01:38:20,410
Um, do I have to say right now?
1915
01:38:20,410 --> 01:38:23,118
Uh, n
1916
01:38:23,118 --> 01:38:25,285
Whatever's comfortable.
1917
01:38:25,285 --> 01:38:29,326
Um, m-my lawyer said
I should call you. I--
1918
01:38:29,326 --> 01:38:30,951
I grew up in State College.
1919
01:38:30,951 --> 01:38:32,743
Okay.
1920
01:38:32,743 --> 01:38:35,743
Jerry Sandusky...
1921
01:38:35,743 --> 01:38:39,326
Yeah. Um...
1922
01:38:39,326 --> 01:38:40,868
there are a lot
of people who have--
1923
01:38:40,868 --> 01:38:43,951
have gone through this.
I'm sure you know that.
1924
01:38:43,951 --> 01:38:45,702
Yeah.
1925
01:38:45,702 --> 01:38:49,326
Um, have you--
have you talked
to anyone about this?
1926
01:38:49,326 --> 01:38:53,993
Well, the lawyer and...
I talked to Joe.
1927
01:38:55,326 --> 01:38:58,660
Joe... J
1928
01:38:58,660 --> 01:39:01,660
We-- We didn't really
talk about it.
1929
01:39:01,660 --> 01:39:05,285
He said that Jerry's,
um, a good man,
1930
01:39:05,285 --> 01:39:07,660
and I shouldn't talk that way
about a good man.
1931
01:39:09,702 --> 01:39:11,993
That was pretty much it.
1932
01:39:11,993 --> 01:39:12,993
Okay.
1933
01:39:17,159 --> 01:39:20,076
And, um, do you, uh--
1934
01:39:20,076 --> 01:39:22,410
Do you remember
when exactly it was
that this--
1935
01:39:22,410 --> 01:39:25,201
that this all took place?
1936
01:39:25,201 --> 01:39:28,868
Yeah. It was in summer.
1937
01:39:28,868 --> 01:39:31,034
In 1976.
1938
01:39:31,034 --> 01:39:32,076
Uh--
1939
01:39:33,410 --> 01:39:37,034
Uh, I'm sorry.
You said...1976?
1939
01:39:38,305 --> 01:39:44,676
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