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You want to know how to get people
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to trust you with their money?
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I'll tell you right now.
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You present it as an exclusive thing.
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Look, what can I tell you?
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It's a closed fund.
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An elite club for the chosen few.
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It's not a question of credentials.
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Right now, it's a closed fund.
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Of course, that's just the hook.
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Nothing on earth makes
people want something more
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than telling them they can't have it.
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You play hard to get.
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You make them sweat.
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And then...
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I'm gonna make an exception.
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And once they're in,
you make them feel safe.
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You give them consistent returns,
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around 10%, 12% a year, year after year.
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If anybody asks you,
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"how do you do this? What's your secret?"
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You say to them...
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That's proprietary.
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And if the questions keep coming...
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You don't like the way
I do it, come up here,
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I'll write you a check for all of it,
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and you're out of the fund.
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Now, the truth is, of course,
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that's the one thing you
can't afford to have...
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Money going out.
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As long as deposits outpace withdrawals,
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you can live like a king.
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It's a simple business plan.
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People give me their money,
and I make them richer than god.
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You might say I'm a magician.
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And as they say,
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a good magician never reveals his secrets.
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There's Andrew.
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There. She's down...
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Finally.
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Let's keep our fingers crossed
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that she sleeps at least an hour.
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Okay.
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You know, that kid of yours is incredible.
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You can tell she's,
like, out of this world.
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Uh-huh.
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So how long have you and
Bernie known each other?
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Oh, my gosh.
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I do not want to do the math, but...
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A long time ago.
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Well, I was 13 years old when
I... when I first saw Bernie.
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He was a 16-year-old lifeguard.
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Lifeguard?
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Mm. Didn't have a belly then.
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Yeah.
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- Oh! And I knew it.
- Now, now. Give the guy a break.
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I knew right away this
was the love of my life...
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The man who would take care of me forever.
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Yeah.
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Being 13, you know, doesn't...
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It's not as weird as it sounds now.
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Oh, it sounds weird. It
sounds a little perverted.
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Come on, now, Mark.
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Don't be silly. I didn't
even know what sex was.
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O-o-okay.
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Well, listen to me.
Neither did your father.
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Took him quite a long time to...
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- Mom! Oh, I don't want to know.
- Too long.
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I don't want to know. Eww.
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I'm gonna go to the restroom.
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Yeah, yeah.
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- Darling, have some more fruit.
- Mm.
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Give me your plate. Who wants more fruit?
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She's nice.
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She's nice, huh, Shana?
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- Yeah, but it's not serious, right?
- Thank you, thank you.
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Uh, it might
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- it's a little early to tell.
- Oh. Oh, honey.
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A... a wife? I don't think so.
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No, you know what? I like her, though.
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I really do. I really like her.
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But she's no Susan.
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You didn't like Susan
until we were divorced.
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Well, that's because I see less of her now.
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Unbelievable.
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- Actually, I've always liked her.
- Yeah, thanks.
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Aw. Pity.
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- Pity.
- Excuse me, Mark.
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Mm-hmm.
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- Thank you.
- Yeah?
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Bernie, it's Frank. Got
that thing I sent you?
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Yeah, the, uh... The King Arthur fund.
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Yeah. It might look
like some two-bit fund,
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but it's turning into a major problem.
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What am I looking at?
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The King Arthur idiot put
it right there in writing...
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Guaranteed 12% to 15% rate of return.
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Of course it got the SEC's attention.
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Guaranteed 15%?
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That would certainly get my attention.
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The problem is, Avellino and Bienes
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allowed this guy to invest,
and now we're exposed.
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You connected with them yet?
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They haven't gotten back to us yet.
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I've been trying all weekend.
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You know how this works, Bernie.
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The SEC ain't gonna stop
at Avellino and Bienes.
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They'll follow it right up the line to us.
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I want them in my office
at 7:30 Monday morning.
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You understand what I'm saying?
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- Okay?
- I hear you, Bernie.
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I'm not kidding.
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They've been living off the
fat of the land for 23 years.
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I'm not gonna have it end up on myoop***.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hear you, Bernie.
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- I'm on it.
- Okay.
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All right. Bye.
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I couldn't imagine.
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Quiet down, please.
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I would like to propose
a toast to my dad...
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Mm.
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... for kicking prostate
cancer where it counts...
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In the butt.
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Oh. That's my son.
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Of course, we're all so thrilled
that you've beaten this thing,
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but I'm pretty sure no one's
more relieved than Uncle Bernie,
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since we all know he has no idea
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how to turn on those computers
at the firm without your help.
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Yeah, that's actually true.
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That's a good point.
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First of all, first of all...
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Roger can't make it from
the east side of Manhattan
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to the west side without a map, okay?
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- Yeah, but, Dad, seriously...
- Bern... hey.
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Bernie speaking.
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Peter...
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We're thrilled that you're here.
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And we're thrilled that you're staying.
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You're the best father
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that Roger and Shana could possibly have.
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And you're the best brother,
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whose devotion and loyalty
is never questioned.
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- Cheers.
- Cheers.
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- Cheers.
- Cheers.
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- Cheers.
- Cheers.
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Oh!
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Beautiful toast.
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You're not going anywhere for a long time,
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and I know that.
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You got to rest.
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You got to relax.
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Remember that trip that you took to France?
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You went to Provence,
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and there was a villa... Bonne Chance?
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- Bonne Chance.
- Bonne Chance.
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- That's right.
- Okay.
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And you said it was like
heaven on earth, right?
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Yes. It was beautiful.
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Well, I, uh...
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I got you a little bit of heaven on earth.
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Seriously.
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I bought you that villa.
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You bought me that house?
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- Yeah.
- Oh, my god.
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Really, Bern?
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What?
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No, come on.
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No.
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You accept it because you deserve it, okay?
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You're crazy. You know that?
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Is everything all right?
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Yeah, you know, you...
You were on the phone
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much more than usual this weekend.
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I'm fine, I'm fine.
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- I just had to put out a fire.
- Mm. Mm.
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I've decided we're gonna do it.
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- Do what?
- The addition to the house.
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Okay? Okay.
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It's a... a great big
indoor-outdoor rec room
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right... right off of the living room.
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And the patio... you know,
it's just sitting there.
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Nobody's using it.
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Why do we have to build an addition?
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You want a bigger house.
We'll buy a bigger house.
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No, no, no. Unh-unh.
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No.
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I am never saying goodbye to this house.
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No, I love it.
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It's our first real splurge...
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From Roslyn Heights to Montauk.
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Yeah.
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There's no limit.
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Judy, Judy!
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Take this freaking call, will you?
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Trades that used to take a day and a half,
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now you can do in a millisecond.
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- New offices look terrific.
- Thank you.
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How long have you been here?
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About a year.
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Here's, uh, my two boys... Mark and Andrew.
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- Say hello to Nathan.
- Huh?
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They're growing up.
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And, uh, in here should be...
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Yes.
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Peter, my brother,
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and this is his daughter, Shana,
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who's our new in-house counsel.
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- Hi, there.
- How are you?
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Peter was the one who thought
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about all that computer
stuff long before I did.
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I was still using an abacus.
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That's amazing.
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- We have something for you.
- Yeah.
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I suppose there are two ways
now to look at this place...
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As a high-tech financial-services outfit
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that helped create Nasdaq,
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or, as I like to see it,
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a very closely knit family business.
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- You know how I look at you?
- How?
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As a guy who doubled my money in six years.
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That's for his college fund.
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Hello?
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Avellino and Bienes just landed at JFK.
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They're on their way.
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I'll be there in five.
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Nathan, got to cut it short.
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It's good seeing you again, Bernie.
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Good seeing you.
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Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities.
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I built this firm from nothing
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into one of the premier
market-making firms
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on Wall Street.
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What's market making?
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Don't worry. You don't need to know.
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It's not the sexiest
corner of the finance world,
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but it's 100% legit.
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The only thing is, it
doesn't have a thing to do
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with managing my investors' money.
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The exclusive fund with the
amazingly consistent returns?
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That's a whole other business
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that I run from down
here on the 17th floor.
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Nobody, but nobody, comes down
here without my permission.
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But it's not the kind of
thing you can do alone.
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Meet Annette Bongiorno.
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Bernie.
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When I hired her, she
looked like Elizabeth Taylor.
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Annette makes sure the
detailed account statements
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go out to our clients every month.
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Jodi Crupi.
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Oh, hey, Bernie.
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Annette's best friend's
cousin's lesbian girlfriend.
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Her one and only job... knowing
the daily balance of the fund.
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Finally, the man behind the wheel
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down here on the 17th floor.
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He walked in my door at age
19 with nothing but chutzpah.
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Now he's as essential as my right hand.
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Frank DiPascali.
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We got a problem, Bernie.
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00:10:34,512 --> 00:10:36,430
Well, let's get down to business.
263
00:10:36,514 --> 00:10:38,682
How much is in the Avellino
and Bienes account right now?
264
00:10:38,816 --> 00:10:42,068
Uh, about $400 million.
265
00:10:42,186 --> 00:10:43,687
About $400 million.
266
00:10:43,821 --> 00:10:45,355
I don't care about "about."
267
00:10:45,439 --> 00:10:46,990
I want to know exactly.
268
00:10:47,074 --> 00:10:49,242
Okay. Let me get Annette.
269
00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,077
Annette, get in here.
270
00:10:51,195 --> 00:10:52,746
Bring the Avellino and Bienes account.
271
00:10:52,863 --> 00:10:55,415
How about you get off your
butt and come get them?
272
00:10:55,533 --> 00:10:57,033
Hey, hey.
273
00:10:57,168 --> 00:10:59,419
Bring it in to Bernie, okay?
274
00:10:59,537 --> 00:11:00,670
I swear.
275
00:11:00,755 --> 00:11:03,089
She gets to be more of
a pain the ass every day.
276
00:11:03,207 --> 00:11:04,174
Watch out.
277
00:11:04,258 --> 00:11:05,425
She's the one who brought you in.
278
00:11:05,543 --> 00:11:07,377
Yeah, 17 years, two husbands,
279
00:11:07,511 --> 00:11:09,596
and about 1,500 eggplant parms ago.
280
00:11:11,215 --> 00:11:12,632
I'm sorry, Bernie.
281
00:11:12,717 --> 00:11:15,135
I didn't know I was talking
to anybody but Mussolini here.
282
00:11:15,219 --> 00:11:16,871
Annette, just give me
the accounts, will you?
283
00:11:16,872 --> 00:11:17,576
Yeah, the account.
284
00:11:17,579 --> 00:11:18,888
Jodi.
285
00:11:19,023 --> 00:11:22,142
$388,693,119.
286
00:11:22,226 --> 00:11:24,060
Total of cash accounts as
of 9:00 A.M. this morning.
287
00:11:24,195 --> 00:11:25,478
Excellent.
288
00:11:25,563 --> 00:11:26,779
Yeah, fine. Okay.
289
00:11:26,897 --> 00:11:28,698
- Thank you.
- No, thank you.
290
00:11:28,783 --> 00:11:30,150
Get out of here, will you?
291
00:11:30,234 --> 00:11:32,485
Go chase a car.
292
00:11:33,904 --> 00:11:37,373
Okay, so, we're only
about $14 million short.
293
00:11:37,458 --> 00:11:39,909
I mean, if worse came to worse
and we had to pay it all back...
294
00:11:39,994 --> 00:11:42,629
Well, we have to pay everybody
back to the last dime,
295
00:11:42,746 --> 00:11:45,465
or else we're gonna be
facing an SEC inquiry.
296
00:11:45,549 --> 00:11:47,634
Does Avellino and Bienes know that?
297
00:11:47,751 --> 00:11:49,552
In about an hour.
298
00:11:51,305 --> 00:11:54,257
Frank Avellino and Michael Bienes.
299
00:11:54,341 --> 00:11:56,693
These two suckers are under the illusion
300
00:11:56,794 --> 00:11:59,095
that their investors in my fund
301
00:11:59,179 --> 00:12:03,816
have a collective net worth
of... yep, that's right...
302
00:12:03,934 --> 00:12:06,836
$402 million...
303
00:12:06,937 --> 00:12:10,022
That I now have to repay in full.
304
00:12:10,107 --> 00:12:11,607
- There he is.
- Bernie.
305
00:12:11,692 --> 00:12:13,326
Hey. Hey.
306
00:12:13,444 --> 00:12:14,973
Bernie, you look great. You look great.
307
00:12:14,998 --> 00:12:15,685
Thanks a lot.
308
00:12:15,779 --> 00:12:16,779
- And the boys...
- Grown men!
309
00:12:16,914 --> 00:12:17,780
Oh. Yeah.
310
00:12:17,915 --> 00:12:19,365
Three grandkids now, am I right?
311
00:12:19,449 --> 00:12:20,783
Yeah, beautiful grandkids...
312
00:12:20,918 --> 00:12:23,169
- Beautiful.
- ... Beautiful kids, beautiful... wife.
313
00:12:23,253 --> 00:12:24,587
Shut up and sit down.
314
00:12:30,461 --> 00:12:31,994
It's over.
315
00:12:32,095 --> 00:12:33,629
What do you mean, "it's over"?
316
00:12:33,764 --> 00:12:34,897
I mean, it's over.
317
00:12:34,998 --> 00:12:36,632
I'm shutting you down.
318
00:12:36,683 --> 00:12:37,967
- Bernie.
- Come on.
319
00:12:38,101 --> 00:12:39,135
- Hear us out, Bernie.
- We never...
320
00:12:39,269 --> 00:12:40,636
How many millions of dollars
321
00:12:40,721 --> 00:12:43,556
have I made you guys over
the last 20 years, huh?
322
00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:44,807
Huh?
323
00:12:44,891 --> 00:12:46,442
You're buying art.
324
00:12:46,526 --> 00:12:47,777
You got a yacht.
325
00:12:47,861 --> 00:12:50,696
I understand you're actually
doing some philanthropy, right?
326
00:12:51,982 --> 00:12:56,152
So if I was you, the
question I would be asking is,
327
00:12:56,286 --> 00:13:00,489
how much is this
lifestyle worth to keep it?
328
00:13:06,963 --> 00:13:08,547
Now...
329
00:13:09,666 --> 00:13:11,667
... here's what you're gonna do.
330
00:13:11,802 --> 00:13:15,054
You're gonna do everything
my lawyer tells you to do.
331
00:13:15,172 --> 00:13:17,473
You're gonna pay any fines or penalties
332
00:13:17,507 --> 00:13:18,841
that are levied against you.
333
00:13:18,975 --> 00:13:22,344
And you're gonna tell your
partner, this King Arthur guy,
334
00:13:22,479 --> 00:13:23,729
that his little pamphlet
335
00:13:23,847 --> 00:13:26,265
put the two of you out of business, okay?
336
00:13:26,349 --> 00:13:27,266
Whatever you say, Bernie.
337
00:13:27,350 --> 00:13:28,434
Is that clear?
338
00:13:28,518 --> 00:13:30,819
Yeah, but, um...
339
00:13:30,904 --> 00:13:32,688
Just so you know, this King Arthur guy...
340
00:13:32,772 --> 00:13:34,023
- We told him the rules.
- We did.
341
00:13:34,157 --> 00:13:35,191
- He knew the rules.
- It wasn't us.
342
00:13:35,325 --> 00:13:37,943
You know, it may be exactly as you say.
343
00:13:38,028 --> 00:13:40,779
But here we are.
344
00:13:42,866 --> 00:13:45,951
Those for Ruth?
345
00:13:46,036 --> 00:13:46,952
Yeah.
346
00:13:47,037 --> 00:13:49,955
I'm gonna do you a favor.
347
00:13:51,758 --> 00:13:53,375
Ruth hates irises.
348
00:13:54,878 --> 00:13:56,929
So pick a secretary and give it to her.
349
00:13:57,047 --> 00:13:58,630
Get out, get out. Get out.
350
00:14:02,352 --> 00:14:05,103
Hey, Shana.
351
00:14:05,188 --> 00:14:06,972
Do you have any idea what
they're talking about in there?
352
00:14:07,056 --> 00:14:08,440
Who knows, Mark?
353
00:14:08,558 --> 00:14:10,526
Maybe they're picking horses.
354
00:14:15,198 --> 00:14:18,367
The problem is gonna be
getting another $400 million
355
00:14:18,451 --> 00:14:20,903
before another client
asks for a big redemption.
356
00:14:21,037 --> 00:14:22,871
Why not hit up one of the big fish?
357
00:14:22,956 --> 00:14:24,490
Carl? Or Picower?
358
00:14:24,574 --> 00:14:25,824
- No, no.
- Or Levy.
359
00:14:25,909 --> 00:14:27,576
I mean, those guys got
plenty more they could put in.
360
00:14:27,710 --> 00:14:29,628
Two decades, these
people have been with me,
361
00:14:29,746 --> 00:14:31,296
and they've been making straight money.
362
00:14:31,414 --> 00:14:32,581
Carl even longer.
363
00:14:32,665 --> 00:14:35,500
I ask for a handout from
them, and they lose confidence.
364
00:14:35,585 --> 00:14:37,419
No, no, no, no, no.
365
00:14:37,503 --> 00:14:38,670
Big fish.
366
00:14:38,755 --> 00:14:41,390
Big fish are out, and so are their friends.
367
00:14:41,474 --> 00:14:42,758
Well, that takes care
368
00:14:42,892 --> 00:14:45,510
of just about every Jewish
businessman in New York City.
369
00:14:45,595 --> 00:14:46,595
Okay.
370
00:14:46,729 --> 00:14:47,846
All right. Enough.
371
00:14:47,930 --> 00:14:49,097
Enough for today.
372
00:14:51,768 --> 00:14:53,268
You know, the SEC
373
00:14:53,403 --> 00:14:55,187
is still gonna want to
see records, you know?
374
00:14:55,271 --> 00:14:56,655
So give them some records.
375
00:14:56,773 --> 00:14:58,073
What, for 3,000 clients?
376
00:14:58,157 --> 00:14:59,691
Yeah. So?
377
00:14:59,776 --> 00:15:02,110
Some of those accounts
go back to the 1960s.
378
00:15:02,245 --> 00:15:03,528
Well, I guess you'll just have
379
00:15:03,613 --> 00:15:05,163
to earn your paycheck, won't you?
380
00:15:06,282 --> 00:15:07,866
Oh. Oh, yeah.
381
00:15:07,950 --> 00:15:09,785
Mm. Oh, yeah.
382
00:15:09,919 --> 00:15:10,952
Oh. Yeah.
383
00:15:11,003 --> 00:15:12,370
Oh. Where the arch is.
384
00:15:12,455 --> 00:15:13,538
Get... get... get in there.
385
00:15:13,623 --> 00:15:14,923
- You... mm!
- Aah!
386
00:15:15,007 --> 00:15:17,375
How's your back? You've
got a lot of tension.
387
00:15:17,460 --> 00:15:18,710
- Everywhere.
- Oh, wait.
388
00:15:18,794 --> 00:15:19,794
- Even up here.
- Stop!
389
00:15:19,879 --> 00:15:21,680
It's the business. It's the business.
390
00:15:21,797 --> 00:15:23,298
What, honey? What do you mean?
391
00:15:23,399 --> 00:15:25,100
We're not expanding.
392
00:15:25,201 --> 00:15:26,885
We've got to keep expanding.
393
00:15:26,969 --> 00:15:27,969
- Or else...
- Oh.
394
00:15:28,104 --> 00:15:30,105
Or else you're going
backwards. Yeah, I know.
395
00:15:30,189 --> 00:15:31,806
So, what do... what do
you want to do about it?
396
00:15:31,941 --> 00:15:33,892
I want to get bigger.
397
00:15:33,976 --> 00:15:35,477
I want to get bigger investors.
398
00:15:35,611 --> 00:15:37,312
I want more.
399
00:15:37,446 --> 00:15:39,447
You mean like that Jeremy Billings
400
00:15:39,532 --> 00:15:42,150
we met in Florida last year with his wife?
401
00:15:42,285 --> 00:15:43,485
- You remember?
- Who?
402
00:15:43,569 --> 00:15:45,186
His partner's Blake North.
403
00:15:45,287 --> 00:15:49,074
They've got this big,
very fancy hedge fund,
404
00:15:49,158 --> 00:15:51,459
and he's got five daughters.
405
00:15:51,544 --> 00:15:54,662
And if that isn't a kick,
they all look like models, too.
406
00:15:54,747 --> 00:15:56,548
Where did... how do you know all this?
407
00:15:56,665 --> 00:15:58,800
I can read.
408
00:16:00,169 --> 00:16:02,170
Look at this. Gorgeous, huh?
409
00:16:03,672 --> 00:16:04,923
Well...
410
00:16:05,007 --> 00:16:07,642
I doubt they have any Jewish friends.
411
00:16:07,726 --> 00:16:09,978
They look like a Polo ad, huh?
412
00:16:10,062 --> 00:16:12,480
Why... why don't you invite him to lunch?
413
00:16:12,565 --> 00:16:13,765
No.
414
00:16:13,883 --> 00:16:15,984
Why don't you invite her to lunch
415
00:16:16,068 --> 00:16:19,854
and tell her we don't
accept any new investors?
416
00:16:19,989 --> 00:16:23,241
You are a vice president
of the company, after all.
417
00:16:23,359 --> 00:16:24,492
All right.
418
00:16:24,576 --> 00:16:30,531
If you want me to earn my
salary, you insist, okay.
419
00:16:33,535 --> 00:16:35,587
Greenwich, Connecticut.
420
00:16:35,704 --> 00:16:37,088
Home of Blake North.
421
00:16:37,206 --> 00:16:40,792
If I could reel him in, the
money I needed to pay out
422
00:16:40,876 --> 00:16:42,343
would be pocket change.
423
00:16:42,428 --> 00:16:44,128
Legacy.
424
00:16:44,213 --> 00:16:45,713
Heritage. Tradition.
425
00:16:45,798 --> 00:16:47,715
Those were the big words in my family.
426
00:16:47,850 --> 00:16:49,801
So you can imagine the uproar
427
00:16:49,885 --> 00:16:53,521
when I off and married this
exotic "mujer from the barrio."
428
00:16:53,605 --> 00:16:56,307
He's wearing a pink jacket.
429
00:16:56,391 --> 00:16:57,942
Don't laugh.
430
00:16:58,060 --> 00:17:00,094
With his money, he can wear
whatever the hell he wants.
431
00:17:00,195 --> 00:17:02,196
I grew up in Rio, but went
to school in Switzerland.
432
00:17:02,281 --> 00:17:04,532
We sent all our girls there, too.
433
00:17:04,616 --> 00:17:06,701
All five of them? Right?
434
00:17:06,785 --> 00:17:07,902
- Oh, my god.
- Mm-hmm.
435
00:17:08,036 --> 00:17:10,705
I saw a picture of them in East End living.
436
00:17:10,789 --> 00:17:13,157
- So beautiful.
- Mm-hmm.
437
00:17:13,242 --> 00:17:13,845
- Yeah.
- Well, you must
438
00:17:13,870 --> 00:17:14,683
have had your hands full
439
00:17:14,743 --> 00:17:16,294
when they were teenagers, huh?
440
00:17:16,411 --> 00:17:18,212
Why do you think we
sent them to Switzerland?
441
00:17:20,415 --> 00:17:22,333
And where did your boys go for school?
442
00:17:22,417 --> 00:17:24,802
Well, for high school, Roslyn High,
443
00:17:24,886 --> 00:17:25,836
home of the Warriors.
444
00:17:27,255 --> 00:17:31,092
And then Mark went to
Michigan and Andy went to Penn.
445
00:17:31,226 --> 00:17:33,427
How about your girls? Where
did they go to college?
446
00:17:33,562 --> 00:17:35,322
- Oh...
- Honey, why don't you
447
00:17:35,347 --> 00:17:37,038
show Ruth the stables?
448
00:17:37,099 --> 00:17:40,101
They, uh, they were feeding
the Arabians there earlier.
449
00:17:40,185 --> 00:17:42,603
Magnificent creatures if
you've never seen them up close.
450
00:17:42,738 --> 00:17:45,906
I guess you know the code
for "time for business"...
451
00:17:45,991 --> 00:17:49,410
- Yes.
- ... As well as you do, I'm sure.
452
00:17:49,494 --> 00:17:51,362
Ah.
453
00:17:51,496 --> 00:17:53,948
This way.
454
00:17:54,082 --> 00:17:56,283
Okay.
455
00:17:56,418 --> 00:17:58,619
So, where did you send
your girls to college?
456
00:17:58,753 --> 00:18:02,957
Harvard, Brown...
457
00:18:03,041 --> 00:18:06,510
Princeton, Brown, Princeton.
458
00:18:14,135 --> 00:18:17,338
He's waiting for me to pitch him.
459
00:18:20,225 --> 00:18:22,643
I don't pitch.
460
00:18:24,646 --> 00:18:28,315
Right now, only one thing counts.
461
00:18:28,450 --> 00:18:31,618
Whoever talks first, loses.
462
00:18:39,494 --> 00:18:43,163
So, I'm glad our lawyers put us together.
463
00:18:48,412 --> 00:18:52,499
I remember now that Irving gave me $50,000
464
00:18:52,583 --> 00:18:56,052
at a time when that
was quite a bit of money
465
00:18:56,137 --> 00:18:58,154
for someone in his position.
466
00:18:58,255 --> 00:19:02,976
And it has reached a point,
absolutely and certainly,
467
00:19:03,094 --> 00:19:05,295
your granddaughter will
have no trouble at all
468
00:19:05,396 --> 00:19:08,264
in making tuition at
any school of her choice.
469
00:19:08,399 --> 00:19:11,317
So, what can I do for you?
470
00:19:11,435 --> 00:19:14,070
On the one hand, I would
really like to take the money
471
00:19:14,154 --> 00:19:15,855
and put it in a savings account,
472
00:19:15,940 --> 00:19:17,657
and on the other hand, I mean,
473
00:19:17,775 --> 00:19:20,777
Irving spoke so highly of
you, and... and he trusted you.
474
00:19:20,861 --> 00:19:23,613
Um, I'm going to write you a check
475
00:19:23,747 --> 00:19:26,449
for the complete amount of your account,
476
00:19:26,584 --> 00:19:31,287
and if you change your mind
and want to put it back with me,
477
00:19:31,422 --> 00:19:34,624
I will gladly accept it.
478
00:19:34,758 --> 00:19:38,294
Here is that check.
479
00:19:38,362 --> 00:19:40,096
Yeah, the check's no good.
480
00:19:40,197 --> 00:19:41,631
But look at her eyes.
481
00:19:41,732 --> 00:19:43,966
She trusts me.
482
00:19:49,523 --> 00:19:51,974
Well, Irving trusted you.
483
00:19:52,059 --> 00:19:56,612
Trust... the basis of any
long-term relationship.
484
00:19:56,713 --> 00:20:00,733
I had $3,000 in my bank
account on my wedding day... .
485
00:20:00,818 --> 00:20:03,202
Just the money I saved from summer jobs.
486
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:04,821
Now, there's no guarantees in life,
487
00:20:04,955 --> 00:20:06,706
but this is as close to
it as you're gonna get.
488
00:20:06,824 --> 00:20:07,824
It's money in your pocket,
489
00:20:07,958 --> 00:20:09,659
and I want to get you
in on the ground floor
490
00:20:09,743 --> 00:20:12,295
because this is a home-run deal, all right?
491
00:20:12,379 --> 00:20:14,664
The ball is sailing over the wall
492
00:20:14,798 --> 00:20:16,632
at Yankee Stadium as we speak,
493
00:20:16,717 --> 00:20:18,417
and I want to get you in
there before some schmuck...
494
00:20:18,502 --> 00:20:22,004
Dialing for dollars, pushing
penny stocks, I was doing fine.
495
00:20:22,089 --> 00:20:23,673
Now, look, I understand
why you'd be apprehensive.
496
00:20:23,757 --> 00:20:25,424
I get it.
497
00:20:25,509 --> 00:20:30,396
But it is 100 shares for $10.
498
00:20:30,514 --> 00:20:33,065
What do you have to lose?
499
00:20:33,183 --> 00:20:35,651
Okay, put me down for 100 shares, Bernie.
500
00:20:35,736 --> 00:20:37,069
I thought you'd see it my way.
501
00:20:37,187 --> 00:20:39,105
But it was my father-in-law, Saul...
502
00:20:39,189 --> 00:20:41,273
... who set the big balls in motion
503
00:20:41,358 --> 00:20:43,826
by believing in his new son-in-law enough
504
00:20:43,910 --> 00:20:46,028
to pitch to him his best clients.
505
00:20:46,113 --> 00:20:50,366
Bernie, I want you to meet Jerry Samuels.
506
00:20:50,450 --> 00:20:52,868
My son-in-law, Bernard L. Madoff.
507
00:20:52,953 --> 00:20:54,537
Jerry Samuels.
508
00:20:54,671 --> 00:20:56,088
Saul tells me you're
ready to make some money.
509
00:20:56,206 --> 00:20:57,289
Steven Hirsch.
510
00:20:57,374 --> 00:21:00,009
My son-in-law, Bernard L. Madoff.
511
00:21:00,093 --> 00:21:01,760
Steven Hirsch.
512
00:21:01,878 --> 00:21:02,928
It's a pleasure to meet you.
513
00:21:03,046 --> 00:21:04,213
Saul says you're ready to make some money.
514
00:21:04,347 --> 00:21:05,598
Samuel Scheinbaum.
515
00:21:05,715 --> 00:21:07,850
My son-in-law, Bernard L. Madoff.
516
00:21:07,884 --> 00:21:10,719
Samuel Scheinbaum. It's
a pleasure to meet you.
517
00:21:10,804 --> 00:21:12,271
Saul says you're ready to make some money.
518
00:21:12,389 --> 00:21:15,558
Within a year of Saul funneling me clients
519
00:21:15,642 --> 00:21:20,229
from his accounting business,
I was $25,000 in the black.
520
00:21:22,899 --> 00:21:25,534
Then it all fell off a cliff.
521
00:21:25,619 --> 00:21:29,455
The penny stocks I had
my clients in got killed.
522
00:21:32,075 --> 00:21:33,659
That's when it hit me.
523
00:21:33,743 --> 00:21:38,664
All I needed was someone to
cover my clients' losses...
524
00:21:38,748 --> 00:21:40,716
Someone whose cash I could use
525
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,218
and make it look like
they'd weathered the storm,
526
00:21:43,303 --> 00:21:45,254
like I'd kept them safe.
527
00:21:45,338 --> 00:21:47,723
It would take every
penny I earned to do it,
528
00:21:47,807 --> 00:21:50,175
but I could make them whole.
529
00:21:50,260 --> 00:21:52,094
You can call it cheating if you want,
530
00:21:52,228 --> 00:21:54,179
but are you really doing anything wrong
531
00:21:54,264 --> 00:21:58,317
if the Peter you're
robbing to pay Paul is you?
532
00:21:58,434 --> 00:22:00,519
$72... that's all I'd have left.
533
00:22:00,603 --> 00:22:04,356
But it was a small price to
pay for what I was buying...
534
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,076
Admiration, trust, respect.
535
00:22:08,161 --> 00:22:10,662
Sam. Bernie Madoff.
536
00:22:10,780 --> 00:22:12,281
Hey. Slow down, slow down, slow down.
537
00:22:12,415 --> 00:22:14,032
That ... That... that...
That's why I'm calling, Sam.
538
00:22:14,117 --> 00:22:15,450
You're okay.
539
00:22:15,585 --> 00:22:17,202
I saw this whole thing coming a week ago.
540
00:22:17,287 --> 00:22:19,121
I moved your entire
portfolio into treasuries.
541
00:22:19,255 --> 00:22:20,789
Everything is aces.
542
00:22:20,873 --> 00:22:21,924
Like I said...
543
00:22:22,008 --> 00:22:23,792
No.
544
00:22:23,876 --> 00:22:24,876
I'm not a genius.
545
00:22:24,961 --> 00:22:26,178
I just know how to ride the market.
546
00:22:26,295 --> 00:22:29,431
... the basis of any
long-term relationship.
547
00:22:35,388 --> 00:22:36,888
You promoted Frank.
548
00:22:36,973 --> 00:22:40,909
Yeah, to VP.
549
00:22:41,010 --> 00:22:42,577
So what?
550
00:22:42,678 --> 00:22:44,396
You won't let us in
the Investment business,
551
00:22:44,514 --> 00:22:45,781
and you promote Frank.
552
00:22:45,865 --> 00:22:48,316
I've worked here for seven years, Dad.
553
00:22:48,401 --> 00:22:49,651
I earned that promotion.
554
00:22:51,204 --> 00:22:54,990
You know, boychick, you remind me of me.
555
00:22:55,074 --> 00:22:56,124
I love you.
556
00:22:56,209 --> 00:22:59,527
Listen, Frank's been here 20 years.
557
00:22:59,629 --> 00:23:02,914
Seven years is barely out of the minors.
558
00:23:02,999 --> 00:23:05,000
The minors?
559
00:23:05,134 --> 00:23:08,053
I reorganized the workflow
between traders and management.
560
00:23:08,170 --> 00:23:10,922
Andy developed our entire
strategy for emerging markets.
561
00:23:11,007 --> 00:23:15,644
We manage hundreds of millions
of dollars every year here on 19.
562
00:23:15,728 --> 00:23:18,380
We're good at what we do, Dad.
563
00:23:18,481 --> 00:23:21,182
So...
564
00:23:21,317 --> 00:23:23,518
Look, why won't you just let us in?
565
00:23:23,652 --> 00:23:25,603
We can help with
investment management on 17
566
00:23:25,688 --> 00:23:27,405
just like we do with trading up here.
567
00:23:27,523 --> 00:23:31,359
Marky, I'll know when you're ready.
568
00:23:31,494 --> 00:23:35,113
I built this whole thing
by listening to my gut.
569
00:23:35,197 --> 00:23:38,032
So when my gut tells me you're
ready, you're in like Flynn.
570
00:23:38,167 --> 00:23:40,835
And until then, you've
got financial security,
571
00:23:40,936 --> 00:23:41,953
you're seasoned.
572
00:23:42,037 --> 00:23:43,371
Come on.
573
00:23:43,506 --> 00:23:45,256
A little Patience, pal.
574
00:23:45,341 --> 00:23:47,792
- Yeah, come on, Marky.
- Don't call me Marky.
575
00:23:52,097 --> 00:23:53,381
You know, just...
576
00:23:53,465 --> 00:23:55,049
Just so I'm clear,
577
00:23:55,134 --> 00:23:58,186
you're saying that Frank
is qualified and I'm not?
578
00:23:58,270 --> 00:23:59,637
Marky...
579
00:23:59,722 --> 00:24:02,056
Why don't you take it like this?
580
00:24:02,191 --> 00:24:05,660
If he screws up, I can fire him.
581
00:24:05,761 --> 00:24:08,646
If you screw up, I can't fire you.
582
00:24:08,731 --> 00:24:10,231
You're blood.
583
00:24:10,282 --> 00:24:15,036
So until I know, we do it my way.
584
00:24:15,137 --> 00:24:17,038
And now we're done.
585
00:24:17,122 --> 00:24:20,575
You know what you need to do, brother?
586
00:24:20,659 --> 00:24:25,079
You need to breathe, relax,
and trust Dad a little more.
587
00:24:25,164 --> 00:24:26,297
Okay?
588
00:24:26,415 --> 00:24:28,082
You're getting what you want.
589
00:24:28,217 --> 00:24:29,634
Just be a little more patient,
590
00:24:29,752 --> 00:24:32,970
and eventually, you
will be a very happy man.
591
00:24:33,088 --> 00:24:34,088
So just relax.
592
00:24:34,223 --> 00:24:36,891
But if you want to keep pushing him,
593
00:24:36,975 --> 00:24:38,726
he's just gonna fight you.
594
00:24:38,811 --> 00:24:40,812
I'm really glad we had this talk.
595
00:24:58,947 --> 00:25:01,282
Are you, uh...
596
00:25:01,366 --> 00:25:03,284
I mean, do you have your own passcard?
597
00:25:03,418 --> 00:25:04,535
Jodi...
598
00:25:04,620 --> 00:25:06,003
Don't be ridiculous.
599
00:25:15,380 --> 00:25:16,797
Um, Mark, is there something
that I can do for you?
600
00:25:16,932 --> 00:25:18,265
Jodi, I'm fine.
601
00:25:38,236 --> 00:25:40,454
Can I help you with something?
602
00:25:48,163 --> 00:25:50,464
Mark...
603
00:25:50,548 --> 00:25:51,665
Can I help you?
604
00:25:53,835 --> 00:25:56,170
No, you can't help me.
605
00:26:00,258 --> 00:26:02,476
I just wanted to say...
606
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,096
Congratulations, Frank.
607
00:26:08,483 --> 00:26:09,566
Thank you.
608
00:26:14,007 --> 00:26:15,257
The SEC is here?
609
00:26:15,341 --> 00:26:16,725
Now? Today?
610
00:26:16,843 --> 00:26:18,777
Don't worry, Frank. There's
nothing to worry about.
611
00:26:18,878 --> 00:26:20,262
I mean, you could have
at least told me, huh?
612
00:26:20,346 --> 00:26:21,847
The records... they
aren't even close to ready.
613
00:26:21,931 --> 00:26:22,979
Take a breath. Take a breath, Frank.
614
00:26:23,004 --> 00:26:23,739
I don't have signatures.
615
00:26:23,816 --> 00:26:26,068
I'm waiting for the files
to be... take a breath.
616
00:26:26,185 --> 00:26:29,321
We don't have to show
them any records today.
617
00:26:29,405 --> 00:26:32,441
All we got to do is make them believe
618
00:26:32,525 --> 00:26:35,277
that we're gonna make their lives easy.
619
00:26:35,361 --> 00:26:38,864
Now, very slowly,
620
00:26:38,948 --> 00:26:42,584
I want you to turn and look at them.
621
00:26:42,702 --> 00:26:44,453
Go ahead.
622
00:26:52,211 --> 00:26:53,795
Now, you're gonna tell me
623
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,215
that Frank DiPascali is afraid of that?
624
00:27:01,020 --> 00:27:02,387
It's the personal level
625
00:27:02,521 --> 00:27:04,823
that's the most embarrassing for me.
626
00:27:04,891 --> 00:27:06,358
30 years I've been doing business
627
00:27:06,459 --> 00:27:09,144
with Bienes and Avellino,
628
00:27:09,228 --> 00:27:12,647
and then to find out they're
selling securities improperly
629
00:27:12,732 --> 00:27:14,399
makes me feel like an idiot.
630
00:27:14,534 --> 00:27:16,067
I spoke to your boss.
631
00:27:16,202 --> 00:27:17,402
I already told him
632
00:27:17,486 --> 00:27:20,488
to just say the hows and
the wheres and the whens,
633
00:27:20,573 --> 00:27:22,574
and we'll make sure that all the investors
634
00:27:22,658 --> 00:27:24,075
have all their money back.
635
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,295
I can't even imagine how
terrible the anxiety is
636
00:27:27,380 --> 00:27:28,713
these people are feeling.
637
00:27:30,249 --> 00:27:32,917
So, what happens next?
638
00:27:33,052 --> 00:27:34,336
Brass tacks.
639
00:27:34,420 --> 00:27:37,088
Well, it's pretty simply, really.
640
00:27:37,173 --> 00:27:38,840
Basically, we just need the records
641
00:27:38,924 --> 00:27:40,725
from the Avellino and Bienes accounts
642
00:27:40,810 --> 00:27:43,812
dating back to when you started
doing business with them.
643
00:27:43,929 --> 00:27:45,897
30 years of fake documents?
644
00:27:45,981 --> 00:27:47,899
Frank could take care of it.
645
00:27:47,983 --> 00:27:50,602
And the SEC wasn't the real problem.
646
00:27:50,686 --> 00:27:52,570
The real problem was,
647
00:27:52,655 --> 00:27:55,406
how was I gonna replace that $400 million?
648
00:27:58,027 --> 00:28:00,695
When Carl Shapiro first put money with me,
649
00:28:00,779 --> 00:28:04,199
it was like king Solomon
himself had vouched for me.
650
00:28:04,283 --> 00:28:05,750
The money I needed...
651
00:28:05,834 --> 00:28:09,120
Carl could have written me a
check for that in his sleep.
652
00:28:09,255 --> 00:28:13,091
The thing is, the main reason
he put so much money with me
653
00:28:13,175 --> 00:28:16,928
over all those years is
that I never asked for it.
654
00:28:17,012 --> 00:28:18,129
Ozzie Kraus.
655
00:28:18,213 --> 00:28:20,515
We started out together
in the garment district.
656
00:28:20,633 --> 00:28:23,801
He said I was crazy to make
nice dresses out of cotton,
657
00:28:23,886 --> 00:28:25,136
that women wanted silk.
658
00:28:25,270 --> 00:28:27,889
I said, "well, working women
like nice dresses, too."
659
00:28:27,973 --> 00:28:29,440
That was 1946.
660
00:28:29,525 --> 00:28:32,060
By 1951, I made my first $10 million.
661
00:28:32,144 --> 00:28:34,645
- He was still selling suits.
- Mm.
662
00:28:36,699 --> 00:28:38,600
Looks like he's doing pretty good, though.
663
00:28:38,625 --> 00:28:39,258
Eh.
664
00:28:39,318 --> 00:28:40,985
Might be worth $15 million, $20 million,
665
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,987
but when you spread it
across all those years,
666
00:28:43,072 --> 00:28:44,789
it's not a hell of a lot of growth.
667
00:28:44,873 --> 00:28:47,708
He didn't have the drive like you do.
668
00:28:47,826 --> 00:28:48,960
Like I do.
669
00:28:49,044 --> 00:28:50,128
Millions?
670
00:28:50,212 --> 00:28:51,329
For Schleppers.
671
00:28:51,463 --> 00:28:53,798
You got to go for billions.
672
00:28:53,882 --> 00:28:56,667
You know, they say tennis
is the sport of kings,
673
00:28:56,752 --> 00:28:59,303
but golf is the sport of deal-making.
674
00:28:59,338 --> 00:29:01,889
I... That's... That's why I quit tennis.
675
00:29:02,007 --> 00:29:04,225
"The son I never had"...
676
00:29:04,343 --> 00:29:07,178
That's what Carl's been
calling me for 30 years.
677
00:29:07,262 --> 00:29:08,179
That's the only thing.
678
00:29:08,313 --> 00:29:09,513
See the Blumenthals over there?
679
00:29:09,648 --> 00:29:12,016
Talked my ear off all afternoon.
680
00:29:12,100 --> 00:29:13,818
"Can I please make an introduction?
681
00:29:13,902 --> 00:29:15,436
I'm just dying to get into Bernie's fund."
682
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,488
They're probably stalking you right now.
683
00:29:17,606 --> 00:29:20,524
His only daughter had
married a man named Bob Jaffe.
684
00:29:20,609 --> 00:29:23,778
All I'm saying is that
they're not the only members
685
00:29:23,862 --> 00:29:26,330
who would give their right
hand to get into the fund.
686
00:29:26,415 --> 00:29:29,867
You know, we come down here
to get away from business, Bob,
687
00:29:29,951 --> 00:29:31,585
not to drum it up.
688
00:29:31,703 --> 00:29:33,871
This is not a place to discuss business.
689
00:29:34,005 --> 00:29:35,089
It's in the club charter.
690
00:29:35,207 --> 00:29:37,675
We don't talk business here.
691
00:29:37,759 --> 00:29:38,876
Of course.
692
00:29:39,010 --> 00:29:42,096
That said, if you were to want to expand,
693
00:29:42,214 --> 00:29:44,682
I'd be more than willing to help.
694
00:29:44,766 --> 00:29:45,766
Eat.
695
00:29:45,884 --> 00:29:46,884
Uh-oh.
696
00:29:47,018 --> 00:29:48,636
You think letting Bob Jaffe
697
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,187
comb Palm Beach for clients
698
00:29:50,272 --> 00:29:52,223
will get you $400 million overnight?
699
00:29:52,307 --> 00:29:56,310
Well, maybe yes and maybe no, Frank, but...
700
00:29:56,394 --> 00:29:59,613
A few million here and a few million there,
701
00:29:59,731 --> 00:30:02,233
it can buy us some time, right?
702
00:30:04,903 --> 00:30:07,771
Hi, Bernie. Blake North.
703
00:30:07,872 --> 00:30:09,873
Listen, I've been doing
my best with Jeremy,
704
00:30:09,958 --> 00:30:12,993
but it's just... he still
feels he needs more to go on
705
00:30:13,078 --> 00:30:15,245
for us to consider coming on board.
706
00:30:15,330 --> 00:30:17,915
So if we can facilitate a meeting,
707
00:30:17,999 --> 00:30:22,419
I think it would go a long
way to settling his concerns.
708
00:30:22,504 --> 00:30:24,722
So, uh, give me a call.
709
00:30:28,893 --> 00:30:30,394
Hey.
710
00:30:30,478 --> 00:30:32,429
Hey!
711
00:30:34,816 --> 00:30:36,266
Hey!
712
00:30:41,940 --> 00:30:44,741
- Surprise!
- Surprise!
713
00:30:47,278 --> 00:30:49,079
Sweetheart.
714
00:30:52,584 --> 00:30:54,668
What is that?
715
00:30:54,786 --> 00:30:56,036
Chairman of Nasdaq.
716
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,170
What is that?
717
00:30:57,288 --> 00:30:59,506
- How could I be chairman?
- I never heard of...
718
00:30:59,624 --> 00:31:01,291
We found out yesterday. We
wanted to keep it a surprise.
719
00:31:01,376 --> 00:31:03,510
Maybe have a party. Got it all together.
720
00:31:03,628 --> 00:31:06,046
- Congratulations.
- Congratulations, Dad.
721
00:31:06,130 --> 00:31:08,098
- Oh, man.
- Confetti all over the place.
722
00:31:08,182 --> 00:31:09,266
This is great.
723
00:31:09,350 --> 00:31:10,934
I'm so proud of you, sweetheart.
724
00:31:11,019 --> 00:31:13,270
God, I always knew. I
knew this was your destiny.
725
00:31:13,354 --> 00:31:15,639
- Mm.
- Mm.
726
00:31:54,011 --> 00:31:56,896
From a back room in my
father-in-law's office
727
00:31:57,014 --> 00:31:58,899
to chairman of Nasdaq,
728
00:31:59,016 --> 00:32:02,769
the second-largest exchange in the world.
729
00:32:02,853 --> 00:32:05,188
A high watermark. You better believe it.
730
00:32:05,323 --> 00:32:07,490
A position like that?
731
00:32:07,575 --> 00:32:10,076
I'd never have to sell myself again.
732
00:32:10,161 --> 00:32:12,695
The title would do it for me.
733
00:32:13,664 --> 00:32:14,698
Yeah.
734
00:32:17,918 --> 00:32:20,003
- No, no. No.
- Bernie?
735
00:32:20,087 --> 00:32:21,421
I got to go.
736
00:32:21,505 --> 00:32:23,923
One more thing about closing a deal...
737
00:32:24,041 --> 00:32:26,509
Always save your best play for last.
738
00:32:26,594 --> 00:32:27,760
Well...
739
00:32:27,878 --> 00:32:30,380
Everything we've looked at looks good.
740
00:32:30,514 --> 00:32:34,217
But there's no mention in
here about the 2 in 20 split.
741
00:32:34,351 --> 00:32:37,554
There's no... no mention about
the management fee at all.
742
00:32:37,638 --> 00:32:39,556
That's right.
743
00:32:39,690 --> 00:32:41,724
Well, what do you mean, "that's right"?
744
00:32:41,859 --> 00:32:45,111
Even if you want to go 50-50,
it needs to be in writing.
745
00:32:45,229 --> 00:32:47,397
No. No.
746
00:32:47,481 --> 00:32:50,066
We're not gonna go 50-50.
747
00:32:52,786 --> 00:32:55,371
Well, then, uh, we need to go
back to the negotiating table,
748
00:32:55,472 --> 00:32:57,457
get the lawyers to draw
up entirely new contracts,
749
00:32:57,574 --> 00:32:58,908
start from scratch.
750
00:32:59,043 --> 00:33:02,245
You know, I don't think you
really want to do that, Jeremy.
751
00:33:03,414 --> 00:33:04,831
Oh, yeah?
752
00:33:04,915 --> 00:33:06,549
Tell me... why's that?
753
00:33:06,633 --> 00:33:09,452
Because we don't take any fees.
754
00:33:09,553 --> 00:33:11,888
We make our money on the trades.
755
00:33:11,972 --> 00:33:13,923
The management fees are all yours.
756
00:33:14,007 --> 00:33:15,892
I thought you understood that.
757
00:33:25,235 --> 00:33:28,104
So, uh...
758
00:33:28,188 --> 00:33:31,441
I suppose we should talk
about the initial buy-in.
759
00:33:31,575 --> 00:33:33,743
The gold standard in seduction...
760
00:33:33,827 --> 00:33:35,111
The moment your client
761
00:33:35,245 --> 00:33:38,414
starts to think he's the
one getting one over on you.
762
00:33:38,498 --> 00:33:41,000
- Did he really just...
- Yes.
763
00:33:41,118 --> 00:33:43,252
- But why wouldn't he...
- Jeremy.
764
00:33:43,337 --> 00:33:44,954
The best thing that will ever happen to us
765
00:33:45,038 --> 00:33:47,456
in our whole lives just happened.
766
00:33:47,591 --> 00:33:49,675
Do you really want to ruin it?
767
00:33:49,793 --> 00:33:52,178
After that, you couldn't stop them
768
00:33:52,296 --> 00:33:54,547
from giving you their money if you tried.
769
00:33:54,631 --> 00:33:57,216
Once word got out that Bernie Madoff
770
00:33:57,300 --> 00:33:59,468
would deliver your hedge-fund returns
771
00:33:59,603 --> 00:34:02,505
without taking a penny
of fees for himself...
772
00:34:02,606 --> 00:34:05,307
My name is Rene-Thierry
Magon de la Villehuchet,
773
00:34:05,409 --> 00:34:07,977
and I have been looking
forward very much to this day.
774
00:34:08,111 --> 00:34:09,445
Thank you so much.
775
00:34:09,529 --> 00:34:12,732
And we will be in touch, and we will visit.
776
00:34:14,151 --> 00:34:15,868
- Thank you. Ah. Ah.
- Adieu.
777
00:34:15,986 --> 00:34:18,404
Greg Perkins. Great to meet you, Bernie.
778
00:34:24,294 --> 00:34:26,128
You're not gonna regret this.
779
00:34:26,213 --> 00:34:28,163
Neither am I.
780
00:34:29,549 --> 00:34:31,167
Vera Zweig.
781
00:34:31,251 --> 00:34:33,802
A great pleasure to meet you, Mr. Madoff.
782
00:34:35,255 --> 00:34:38,841
Excellent.
783
00:34:38,892 --> 00:34:40,259
Ja.
784
00:34:42,345 --> 00:34:48,434
$10,006,442,853.64.
785
00:34:48,518 --> 00:34:51,236
Total cash in hand as of
9:00 A.M. this morning.
786
00:34:53,773 --> 00:34:55,691
$10 billion.
787
00:34:57,777 --> 00:35:01,914
Not bad for a poor Jewish kid from Queens.
788
00:35:02,032 --> 00:35:03,165
Oh, come on.
789
00:35:11,448 --> 00:35:14,031
_
790
00:35:16,106 --> 00:35:17,022
Got a minute?
791
00:35:17,107 --> 00:35:18,357
No, I do not.
792
00:35:18,441 --> 00:35:19,859
You're a math guy.
793
00:35:19,943 --> 00:35:21,911
A math guy?
794
00:35:21,995 --> 00:35:23,345
How much of a math guy?
795
00:35:23,446 --> 00:35:28,918
I have a pretty thorough
grounding in calculus,
796
00:35:29,002 --> 00:35:31,837
from integral to differential,
797
00:35:31,955 --> 00:35:35,457
plus linear algebra and statistics...
798
00:35:35,592 --> 00:35:37,459
Both normal and non-normal.
799
00:35:37,594 --> 00:35:39,878
Yes, I suppose you
could call me a math guy.
800
00:35:39,963 --> 00:35:41,764
Take a look at this.
801
00:35:41,848 --> 00:35:44,016
- What is that?
- A prospectus.
802
00:35:44,134 --> 00:35:45,768
- Don't ask me where I got it.
- Where did you get it?
803
00:35:45,852 --> 00:35:47,353
Harry, have you ever
heard of Bernie Madoff?
804
00:35:47,470 --> 00:35:49,021
Private fund, right?
805
00:35:49,139 --> 00:35:51,473
Consistent returns year in, year out.
806
00:35:51,524 --> 00:35:53,058
We need to do what he's doing.
807
00:35:53,143 --> 00:35:54,109
I need you to reverse...
808
00:35:54,210 --> 00:35:55,894
Reverse-engineer his trading strategy.
809
00:35:55,979 --> 00:35:58,063
See if we get his results.
810
00:35:58,148 --> 00:35:59,648
That's right, Harry.
811
00:35:59,783 --> 00:36:01,233
And have a good night.
812
00:36:17,166 --> 00:36:20,719
You're holding in your
hands an exact replica
813
00:36:20,837 --> 00:36:24,840
of a 1965 Aston Martin Volante.
814
00:36:24,891 --> 00:36:26,642
Only 37 of them ever made.
815
00:36:26,726 --> 00:36:28,310
Two remain in the United States.
816
00:36:28,394 --> 00:36:29,394
Hmm. It's beautiful.
817
00:36:29,512 --> 00:36:31,063
Roger gave it to me for Father's Day.
818
00:36:31,180 --> 00:36:33,015
I'd been hoping for a big one.
819
00:36:34,183 --> 00:36:35,434
I was happy to have the model.
820
00:36:35,518 --> 00:36:36,685
Hey.
821
00:36:36,769 --> 00:36:38,220
I need you to sign some things.
822
00:36:40,189 --> 00:36:41,940
Hello, to you, too, Frank.
823
00:36:42,025 --> 00:36:43,108
It's not a good time.
824
00:36:43,192 --> 00:36:44,860
It'll just take you five minutes.
825
00:36:44,994 --> 00:36:46,161
Just a set of filings
826
00:36:46,262 --> 00:36:48,447
for some accounts that
didn't get processed right.
827
00:36:48,531 --> 00:36:50,198
Okay, Frank.
828
00:36:50,283 --> 00:36:51,616
I'll, uh...
829
00:36:51,701 --> 00:36:53,702
I'll look them over,
and I'll get back to you.
830
00:36:53,786 --> 00:36:54,920
There's no time for that.
831
00:36:55,038 --> 00:36:57,589
I just need your chief
compliance officer rubber stamp.
832
00:36:57,707 --> 00:37:00,175
He said he'll get back to you, Frank.
833
00:37:00,259 --> 00:37:02,010
So...
834
00:37:04,347 --> 00:37:06,298
Okay, Mark.
835
00:37:07,717 --> 00:37:10,635
Vroom, vroom.
836
00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:13,522
Very nice.
837
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,695
I was now moving in the
highest class of people.
838
00:37:20,780 --> 00:37:27,569
Like Elie Wiesel... holocaust
survivor, Nobel laureate.
839
00:37:27,653 --> 00:37:29,287
It is the twinge we feel
840
00:37:29,405 --> 00:37:32,240
when we go against our conscience.
841
00:37:32,325 --> 00:37:35,543
This is a gift given to most of us...
842
00:37:35,644 --> 00:37:37,412
The knowledge of wrong.
843
00:37:37,496 --> 00:37:40,882
And perhaps merely listening
to those feelings of guilt
844
00:37:40,966 --> 00:37:44,519
is the secret to living an ethical life.
845
00:37:44,620 --> 00:37:49,007
Perhaps, in the end, it's as easy as that.
846
00:37:54,430 --> 00:37:56,014
Thank you.
847
00:37:56,098 --> 00:37:58,566
For me, it's the market volatility
848
00:37:58,651 --> 00:38:00,351
that always scares me off.
849
00:38:00,436 --> 00:38:01,603
Well, of course.
850
00:38:01,737 --> 00:38:03,738
You don't know how the system works,
851
00:38:03,823 --> 00:38:06,157
and then you're going to entrust
everything you've worked for
852
00:38:06,275 --> 00:38:07,775
- to it?
- Exactly.
853
00:38:07,910 --> 00:38:09,244
I'll tell you the truth, Elie.
854
00:38:09,328 --> 00:38:11,412
The fact is that if you're
in the market for real,
855
00:38:11,447 --> 00:38:14,749
you don't have to look at it
on a daily basis, you know?
856
00:38:14,833 --> 00:38:16,584
It goes up 300, it goes down 300.
857
00:38:16,669 --> 00:38:17,669
It really doesn't matter.
858
00:38:17,786 --> 00:38:19,754
What you got to think about is,
859
00:38:19,838 --> 00:38:23,458
are you in, and do you trust the
general health of the markets?
860
00:38:23,542 --> 00:38:24,842
Then you'll be fine.
861
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:25,960
You're gonna do okay.
862
00:38:26,095 --> 00:38:28,012
It... it would certainly be an honor
863
00:38:28,130 --> 00:38:29,714
to help you in any way we could.
864
00:38:29,798 --> 00:38:31,299
Our whole family would be so honored.
865
00:38:31,433 --> 00:38:32,467
Absolutely.
866
00:38:32,601 --> 00:38:34,469
Elie Wiesel, virtuous humanitarian.
867
00:38:34,603 --> 00:38:37,055
Didn't stop me for a second
from taking his money.
868
00:38:37,139 --> 00:38:38,406
It's not as though I'm gonna sit here
869
00:38:38,474 --> 00:38:40,058
and tell you that you
can't live without me.
870
00:38:40,142 --> 00:38:42,810
You know, you've done very
well with the guy you're with,
871
00:38:42,945 --> 00:38:45,446
so maybe you just want to stay put.
872
00:38:46,648 --> 00:38:49,450
Well, imagine if I lost your money.
873
00:38:49,485 --> 00:38:51,235
I wouldn't be invited to any bar mitzvah
874
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,653
in the city of New York.
875
00:38:55,290 --> 00:38:57,158
You are Bernie Madoff.
876
00:38:57,292 --> 00:38:58,376
Yes, I am.
877
00:38:58,494 --> 00:39:00,578
Sheryl Weinstein.
878
00:39:00,662 --> 00:39:03,381
C.F.O. of Hadassah, the
Women's Organization.
879
00:39:03,498 --> 00:39:05,416
I am familiar with Hadassah.
880
00:39:05,500 --> 00:39:06,551
Good.
881
00:39:06,668 --> 00:39:08,386
Probably looks like I'm stalking you...
882
00:39:08,503 --> 00:39:11,005
Waiting for you outside
the bathroom like this.
883
00:39:11,139 --> 00:39:13,841
Well, actually, until you said that,
884
00:39:13,976 --> 00:39:15,009
I would have just thought
885
00:39:15,093 --> 00:39:17,144
that you were waiting for the bathroom.
886
00:39:17,229 --> 00:39:18,929
Damn.
887
00:39:19,014 --> 00:39:21,899
I just blew my own cover, right?
888
00:39:21,984 --> 00:39:23,517
Listen...
889
00:39:23,602 --> 00:39:25,936
I'm glad you have Hadassah as a client.
890
00:39:26,021 --> 00:39:29,740
I, uh... I know you don't
take on just anybody.
891
00:39:29,858 --> 00:39:33,244
But I would love a chance to
talk to you about our goals.
892
00:39:33,361 --> 00:39:35,529
Well, Sheryl, um...
893
00:39:35,614 --> 00:39:37,615
I have an idea about charities.
894
00:39:37,699 --> 00:39:40,000
It's not about the size.
895
00:39:40,085 --> 00:39:42,870
It's about the people behind them.
896
00:39:42,971 --> 00:39:45,539
So, uh...
897
00:39:45,674 --> 00:39:48,509
Why don't you call my office,
and we'll set something up?
898
00:39:50,879 --> 00:39:52,129
Oh, here you are.
899
00:39:52,214 --> 00:39:53,480
Ira's looking for you.
900
00:39:53,582 --> 00:39:58,385
He wants to introduce you to...
To some big cosmetics C.E.O.
901
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,021
Ruth, this is, uh... Sherry? Sheryl.
902
00:40:01,106 --> 00:40:02,439
Sheryl Weinstein.
903
00:40:02,524 --> 00:40:04,475
Sheryl Weinstein from Hadassah.
904
00:40:04,559 --> 00:40:05,859
Oh! Wonderful.
905
00:40:05,944 --> 00:40:09,029
You... you ladies do such good work.
906
00:40:09,114 --> 00:40:10,231
Thank you.
907
00:40:10,315 --> 00:40:12,233
Bern, back in the saddle.
908
00:40:12,317 --> 00:40:13,651
Yeah.
909
00:40:30,585 --> 00:40:33,253
Good evening, and welcome
910
00:40:33,388 --> 00:40:38,225
to the fourth annual Madoff
Family Foundation fund-raiser.
911
00:40:38,309 --> 00:40:42,930
As chairman of Nasdaq, I am
grateful for you to be here.
912
00:40:43,064 --> 00:40:44,932
Those of you who are here tonight
913
00:40:45,066 --> 00:40:47,935
know already that you are the recipients
914
00:40:48,019 --> 00:40:51,605
of an enormous, almost miraculous, growth
915
00:40:51,739 --> 00:40:53,106
in personal wealth.
916
00:40:53,241 --> 00:40:56,109
Technology and innovation have allowed us
917
00:40:56,244 --> 00:40:58,612
to receive an amount of wealth
918
00:40:58,696 --> 00:41:03,083
that our parents could not
possibly even have dreamt of.
919
00:41:04,002 --> 00:41:06,670
But there are still far too many
920
00:41:06,788 --> 00:41:10,457
who have not been the
recipients of such wealth.
921
00:41:10,591 --> 00:41:13,043
They have neither the
money nor the benefits
922
00:41:13,127 --> 00:41:14,878
that wealth can bring.
923
00:41:14,963 --> 00:41:17,097
So, why do we give?
924
00:41:17,181 --> 00:41:19,599
Because we believe in this system
925
00:41:19,684 --> 00:41:22,936
that is perfected by the act of giving.
926
00:41:23,021 --> 00:41:23,970
Why do we give?
927
00:41:24,105 --> 00:41:25,138
Do you know how he does it?
928
00:41:25,273 --> 00:41:26,523
You figured it out in one night?
929
00:41:26,641 --> 00:41:28,975
Because it feels good.
930
00:41:29,110 --> 00:41:30,977
Madoff. You want to know how he does it?
931
00:41:31,112 --> 00:41:31,778
Yes.
932
00:41:31,863 --> 00:41:33,280
Why do we give?
933
00:41:33,364 --> 00:41:34,281
He doesn't.
934
00:41:34,982 --> 00:41:37,117
Because we care.
935
00:41:37,201 --> 00:41:38,819
It's a fraud.
936
00:41:43,157 --> 00:41:45,659
There's a cancer gene in the Madoff line.
937
00:41:45,743 --> 00:41:47,878
Cousins, uncles, grandparents.
938
00:41:47,995 --> 00:41:50,747
Leukemia, lymphoma, sarcoma.
939
00:41:50,831 --> 00:41:55,085
A poisoned heirloom passed
down for generations.
940
00:41:55,169 --> 00:41:57,387
Maybe we could extend out further.
941
00:41:57,505 --> 00:41:59,506
You always hear that
growth is a good thing.
942
00:41:59,590 --> 00:42:00,840
As much as of... of a window.
943
00:42:00,975 --> 00:42:02,392
We'll see if we like it.
944
00:42:02,510 --> 00:42:04,928
It shows the world you don't
want to settle for good enough.
945
00:42:05,012 --> 00:42:08,148
How... how deep is this?
946
00:42:08,232 --> 00:42:10,233
- No? Yeah?
- Yeah.
947
00:42:10,351 --> 00:42:13,269
By the time Bush Jr.
was in the White House,
948
00:42:13,354 --> 00:42:15,355
I had taken my Investment business
949
00:42:15,489 --> 00:42:20,443
and turned it into a
business spanning the globe.
950
00:42:20,528 --> 00:42:23,113
So, is growth a good thing?
951
00:42:23,197 --> 00:42:24,531
Sure.
952
00:42:24,665 --> 00:42:26,616
Unless it's cancer.
953
00:42:26,700 --> 00:42:28,201
And then it can kill you.
954
00:42:36,677 --> 00:42:38,344
- Harry.
- Hey.
955
00:42:38,429 --> 00:42:40,296
I'm sorry. I got held up in Charlestown.
956
00:42:40,381 --> 00:42:41,297
How you doing?
957
00:42:41,382 --> 00:42:42,549
Thanks for coming, Ed.
958
00:42:42,633 --> 00:42:43,550
What's on your mind?
959
00:42:43,634 --> 00:42:44,717
Maryann...
960
00:42:44,802 --> 00:42:47,187
Could I get a, uh...
I'll have a draft, please.
961
00:42:47,271 --> 00:42:49,772
Maybe we should grab a booth in the back...
962
00:42:49,890 --> 00:42:51,107
Something a little more private.
963
00:42:51,225 --> 00:42:52,275
A booth?
964
00:42:52,393 --> 00:42:53,526
Harry, what is this... a date?
965
00:42:53,611 --> 00:42:55,395
Come on. We play softball together.
966
00:42:55,529 --> 00:42:57,063
I'm with the SEC, not the CIA.
967
00:42:57,147 --> 00:42:58,114
What's going on?
968
00:42:58,232 --> 00:43:00,566
You like baseball, right, Ed?
969
00:43:00,651 --> 00:43:02,902
Sure, yeah.
970
00:43:02,987 --> 00:43:06,990
What if I told you there was
a player in the major leagues
971
00:43:07,074 --> 00:43:09,909
who was batting .960?
972
00:43:10,044 --> 00:43:11,544
I'd want him on my team.
973
00:43:12,713 --> 00:43:13,713
That's right.
974
00:43:13,797 --> 00:43:14,881
I'd say he was cheating.
975
00:43:14,965 --> 00:43:16,582
Yeah.
976
00:43:18,285 --> 00:43:20,636
Have you ever heard of Bernard L. Madoff?
977
00:43:20,754 --> 00:43:22,004
Bernie Madoff?
978
00:43:22,089 --> 00:43:23,840
Yeah, sure. He's got a good reputation.
979
00:43:25,893 --> 00:43:27,310
I'll say he does.
980
00:43:27,427 --> 00:43:30,096
Bernard L. Madoff is batting .960.
981
00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:32,098
Come on, Harry. What are you talking about?
982
00:43:32,182 --> 00:43:33,399
In his investment fund,
983
00:43:33,484 --> 00:43:35,485
only 4% of his months are down months.
984
00:43:35,602 --> 00:43:37,687
If his performance statistics are true,
985
00:43:37,771 --> 00:43:38,938
he would have to buy more options
986
00:43:39,072 --> 00:43:42,108
on the Chicago Options
Exchange than actually exist.
987
00:43:42,242 --> 00:43:45,411
Now, I spoke to my options guy in Chicago.
988
00:43:45,495 --> 00:43:49,365
No one remembers ever doing a
trade with Bernard L. Madoff.
989
00:43:49,449 --> 00:43:50,533
What are you saying?
990
00:43:50,617 --> 00:43:52,952
Are you... you saying he's insider trading?
991
00:43:56,373 --> 00:43:58,213
I'm accusing him of running a Ponzi scheme.
992
00:43:59,009 --> 00:44:00,209
Bernie Madoff?
993
00:44:00,293 --> 00:44:03,262
The same guy that sat on the
Nasdaq chair for three years?
994
00:44:03,347 --> 00:44:04,964
- That's him.
- And you want to speak to my boss?
995
00:44:05,048 --> 00:44:06,298
I do.
996
00:44:06,383 --> 00:44:08,134
Ed, I've run the numbers on this.
997
00:44:08,268 --> 00:44:09,218
And you know me, Ed.
998
00:44:09,302 --> 00:44:11,137
I am precise.
999
00:44:11,271 --> 00:44:12,221
He's a fraud.
1000
00:44:12,305 --> 00:44:14,473
Madoff is a fraud. Capital "F."
1001
00:44:14,608 --> 00:44:16,142
You know what this
sounds like to me, Harry?
1002
00:44:16,276 --> 00:44:17,977
It sounds like you've got
some kind of personal issue
1003
00:44:18,061 --> 00:44:19,228
going on here.
1004
00:44:19,312 --> 00:44:21,814
I mean, you've got a guy
that's not playing by the rules,
1005
00:44:21,948 --> 00:44:23,816
and you want to get him off the field.
1006
00:44:23,900 --> 00:44:25,401
When this thing goes down,
1007
00:44:25,485 --> 00:44:28,320
people are going to be destroyed.
1008
00:44:28,405 --> 00:44:30,790
Lives are going to be
destroyed with this thing.
1009
00:44:30,874 --> 00:44:32,491
And not just rich people.
1010
00:44:32,576 --> 00:44:35,327
Little old ladies who
thought they were investing
1011
00:44:35,412 --> 00:44:36,829
in their future, their retirements.
1012
00:44:36,963 --> 00:44:37,963
They're gonna lose it.
1013
00:44:38,048 --> 00:44:39,298
Charities!
1014
00:44:39,382 --> 00:44:40,833
People who didn't even know
1015
00:44:40,967 --> 00:44:42,167
that they were investing in this guy...
1016
00:44:42,252 --> 00:44:43,385
they're gonna lose everything.
1017
00:44:43,503 --> 00:44:46,055
- You're sure?
- I am sure.
1018
00:44:47,924 --> 00:44:50,926
All right, if I can get you
a meeting with Grant Ward,
1019
00:44:51,011 --> 00:44:54,313
you got to make a very
clear, very convincing case,
1020
00:44:54,397 --> 00:44:56,098
- and it's got to be done very quickly.
- Yes.
1021
00:44:56,182 --> 00:44:57,399
- He's not a numbers guy.
- I know.
1022
00:44:57,517 --> 00:44:58,875
- So don't go in there with equations...
- Ed...
1023
00:44:58,935 --> 00:45:00,018
... and all kinds of theorems and...
1024
00:45:00,153 --> 00:45:01,603
Listen to me.
1025
00:45:01,688 --> 00:45:03,856
I can handle this.
1026
00:45:05,859 --> 00:45:08,160
So, I met someone.
1027
00:45:08,244 --> 00:45:09,445
Her name's Catherine.
1028
00:45:09,529 --> 00:45:11,663
How'd you manage that
without me as your wingman?
1029
00:45:11,748 --> 00:45:12,865
Yeah, don't be an ass.
1030
00:45:12,999 --> 00:45:14,450
I walked into her store.
1031
00:45:14,534 --> 00:45:17,369
She owns that fly-fishing
outfitters store downtown...
1032
00:45:17,504 --> 00:45:18,407
- urban angler.
- So, are you
1033
00:45:18,432 --> 00:45:19,478
serious about her or what?
1034
00:45:19,539 --> 00:45:21,540
Yeah. I think it's real.
1035
00:45:21,624 --> 00:45:24,426
And I was thinking about
inviting her to Shana's Wedding.
1036
00:45:24,544 --> 00:45:26,319
That's great, man. You
should do that. Yeah?
1037
00:45:26,379 --> 00:45:28,680
Just be ready. Mom's
gonna give her the look.
1038
00:45:28,765 --> 00:45:30,382
- Which look?
- You know the look.
1039
00:45:30,517 --> 00:45:32,434
- Oh, the look, the look.
- The look.
1040
00:45:32,552 --> 00:45:35,971
They're such paradoxes, Mom and Dad.
1041
00:45:36,055 --> 00:45:39,358
You know, one minute, they're
up in every aspect of our lives.
1042
00:45:39,442 --> 00:45:42,728
And the next, especially Dad...
1043
00:45:42,812 --> 00:45:45,647
They just freeze you out.
1044
00:45:45,732 --> 00:45:47,616
You see the new business card?
1045
00:45:47,734 --> 00:45:48,900
Yeah, that's pretty much the same
1046
00:45:48,985 --> 00:45:49,901
as the old ones, aren't they?
1047
00:45:50,036 --> 00:45:52,404
Yeah. Pretty much exactly the same.
1048
00:45:52,538 --> 00:45:53,872
And it pisses me off.
1049
00:45:53,956 --> 00:45:56,235
Pisses me off even more for Uncle Peter.
1050
00:45:56,260 --> 00:45:57,149
Mark, come on.
1051
00:45:57,243 --> 00:45:58,744
You got to let go of the
whole name-change thing.
1052
00:45:58,878 --> 00:46:00,162
Listen to me.
1053
00:46:00,246 --> 00:46:01,663
Dad's never gonna let it go.
1054
00:46:01,748 --> 00:46:02,914
Why won't he?
1055
00:46:03,049 --> 00:46:05,751
It should just be "Madoff
Investment Securities."
1056
00:46:05,885 --> 00:46:06,885
All he ever talks about is,
1057
00:46:06,969 --> 00:46:09,054
"Oh, we're just a small family business."
1058
00:46:09,138 --> 00:46:11,590
Make no mistake... it's the "Bernie Show."
1059
00:46:15,311 --> 00:46:16,978
Why don't you string one up for me?
1060
00:46:17,096 --> 00:46:20,265
You don't even like surf fishing.
1061
00:46:20,316 --> 00:46:22,934
Oh, my boys.
1062
00:46:23,069 --> 00:46:25,854
It's a beautiful day, a sunny beach.
1063
00:46:25,938 --> 00:46:28,023
It's not about the fish.
1064
00:46:34,013 --> 00:46:36,031
I know that I don't have the
administrative experience,
1065
00:46:36,115 --> 00:46:38,750
but I'm a hard worker and a quick learner.
1066
00:46:38,784 --> 00:46:40,869
I spent six years in retail.
1067
00:46:40,953 --> 00:46:42,587
I managed the fundraisers for the PTA...
1068
00:46:42,672 --> 00:46:46,391
When you were growing up, what
was it that you wanted to do?
1069
00:46:46,492 --> 00:46:47,759
I'm sorry.
1070
00:46:47,843 --> 00:46:48,960
I don't... I don't understand.
1071
00:46:49,095 --> 00:46:51,346
When you were growing up, you...
1072
00:46:51,464 --> 00:46:55,066
You didn't have the
ambition to be a secretary.
1073
00:46:55,134 --> 00:46:56,334
Did you?
1074
00:46:58,354 --> 00:46:59,938
Sounds like a trick question.
1075
00:47:00,022 --> 00:47:02,557
It isn't.
1076
00:47:02,641 --> 00:47:03,725
Okay.
1077
00:47:03,809 --> 00:47:07,312
I wanted to be a nurse.
1078
00:47:07,446 --> 00:47:08,613
You know, something useful. You know?
1079
00:47:08,697 --> 00:47:10,782
Something to help people.
1080
00:47:10,866 --> 00:47:12,734
But...
1081
00:47:12,818 --> 00:47:13,952
Life gets in the way.
1082
00:47:14,053 --> 00:47:16,905
I understand, I understand.
1083
00:47:16,989 --> 00:47:18,256
Now you got two kids.
1084
00:47:18,324 --> 00:47:22,710
So you're gonna get a job that pays well,
1085
00:47:22,828 --> 00:47:24,996
and you can support your children.
1086
00:47:26,966 --> 00:47:29,100
Yeah.
1087
00:47:29,201 --> 00:47:31,302
Yes, sir.
1088
00:47:33,088 --> 00:47:34,839
Eleanor...
1089
00:47:34,974 --> 00:47:37,925
I've run this company for 40 years,
1090
00:47:38,010 --> 00:47:41,179
and I have never hired anybody
1091
00:47:41,263 --> 00:47:44,148
who didn't answer that question honestly.
1092
00:47:47,519 --> 00:47:53,357
Now, the thing that I prize
more than anything is loyalty.
1093
00:47:53,492 --> 00:47:56,360
You won't meet a more loyal
person than me, Mr. Madoff.
1094
00:47:56,495 --> 00:47:59,163
If I hire you, Eleanor...
1095
00:47:59,264 --> 00:48:03,584
You have to be loyal to me.
1096
00:48:03,702 --> 00:48:05,753
Not the company.
1097
00:48:05,871 --> 00:48:09,707
To me.
1098
00:48:11,210 --> 00:48:13,094
You understand that?
1099
00:48:15,931 --> 00:48:17,882
Yes.
1100
00:48:18,016 --> 00:48:20,017
I do understand.
1101
00:48:22,721 --> 00:48:25,790
I know it's not a big deal to you.
1102
00:48:25,891 --> 00:48:28,192
We're just a client,
and not a very big one,
1103
00:48:28,226 --> 00:48:31,946
but it is a huge thing
for the organization.
1104
00:48:32,064 --> 00:48:35,066
So, what do you think?
1105
00:48:35,150 --> 00:48:36,500
Should we do it?
1106
00:48:36,568 --> 00:48:37,485
Do what?
1107
00:48:37,569 --> 00:48:38,736
- Order champagne?
- Oh.
1108
00:48:41,790 --> 00:48:44,158
Yes, of course, if you'd like some.
1109
00:48:44,242 --> 00:48:46,377
I don't... I don't drink, so...
1110
00:48:46,461 --> 00:48:47,495
Never?
1111
00:48:47,579 --> 00:48:48,746
Rarely.
1112
00:48:48,830 --> 00:48:53,167
Occasional glass of wine
with dinner, but, really, no.
1113
00:48:53,251 --> 00:48:55,169
Are you afraid you'll
spill all your secrets
1114
00:48:55,253 --> 00:48:56,187
if you get a little tipsy?
1115
00:48:58,256 --> 00:49:00,558
Or you'll lose control?
1116
00:49:00,642 --> 00:49:03,844
Well, we should have had
this meeting at my office,
1117
00:49:03,929 --> 00:49:08,098
but you insisted on... on having lunch.
1118
00:49:08,233 --> 00:49:09,600
Well...
1119
00:49:09,768 --> 00:49:13,270
We could have had lunch at
any restaurant in the city,
1120
00:49:13,405 --> 00:49:17,274
but you suggested a restaurant in a hotel.
1121
00:49:26,952 --> 00:49:28,953
Check, please.
1122
00:49:34,854 --> 00:49:37,886
_
1123
00:49:37,957 --> 00:49:40,541
So, plainly and simply put,
1124
00:49:40,659 --> 00:49:44,095
one OTC at-the-money put
would have a delta of 0.5,
1125
00:49:44,196 --> 00:49:47,415
meaning that any drop in the OEX
1126
00:49:47,499 --> 00:49:50,902
larger than a mere, oh, 1.1%...
1127
00:49:51,003 --> 00:49:53,304
Well, Madoff would have to buy options
1128
00:49:53,388 --> 00:49:55,973
with high enough gamma to
protect second derivatives
1129
00:49:56,058 --> 00:49:57,008
against a drop in the first,
1130
00:49:57,092 --> 00:49:59,677
which, as we all know, is absurd.
1131
00:50:00,913 --> 00:50:03,881
Now, let's talk about mega-tronic analysis
1132
00:50:03,982 --> 00:50:07,435
of financial consortiums,
which when compounded with...
1133
00:50:07,519 --> 00:50:09,820
Thank you, Mr. Markopolos.
1134
00:50:09,905 --> 00:50:13,824
I'll refer your findings
to the appropriate person.
1135
00:50:13,909 --> 00:50:17,445
Maybe they'll be able to
understand your theories.
1136
00:50:17,529 --> 00:50:19,280
- Thank you for your time, Grant.
- Ah.
1137
00:50:19,364 --> 00:50:20,364
It was great to see you.
1138
00:50:20,499 --> 00:50:21,866
Sorry to interrupt your schedule today.
1139
00:50:21,950 --> 00:50:24,085
I'm an army man, Mr. Ward.
1140
00:50:24,202 --> 00:50:25,870
Good to know.
1141
00:50:25,954 --> 00:50:27,288
I swore an oath
1142
00:50:27,372 --> 00:50:30,675
to protect this country
against all enemies,
1143
00:50:30,776 --> 00:50:32,510
foreign and domestic.
1144
00:50:32,611 --> 00:50:36,931
And Bernard Madoff is a domestic enemy.
1145
00:50:37,049 --> 00:50:39,550
This is about duty.
1146
00:50:42,888 --> 00:50:44,805
Thanks, Grant.
1147
00:50:44,890 --> 00:50:46,891
20,000 shares?
1148
00:50:49,060 --> 00:50:53,063
This is me putting my
whole life in your hands.
1149
00:50:55,233 --> 00:50:56,617
Take it.
1150
00:50:56,735 --> 00:50:58,869
Eleanor...
1151
00:50:58,954 --> 00:51:02,656
If the world ends, these
are the numbers I need.
1152
00:51:02,741 --> 00:51:05,376
I want you to make a copy of this book
1153
00:51:05,460 --> 00:51:07,044
and put it in your computer.
1154
00:51:07,128 --> 00:51:10,180
I want to have a separate
password for you and me.
1155
00:51:10,282 --> 00:51:13,083
Okay.
1156
00:51:13,168 --> 00:51:15,135
The Lowell Hotel called.
1157
00:51:15,253 --> 00:51:16,587
They want to confirm a reservation
1158
00:51:16,721 --> 00:51:18,055
for lunch and a room.
1159
00:51:18,089 --> 00:51:20,507
Yes. That's correct.
1160
00:51:23,728 --> 00:51:25,562
Well, then you're all set.
1161
00:51:25,647 --> 00:51:28,349
Mr. Ward, this is Harry Markopolos.
1162
00:51:28,433 --> 00:51:32,269
Um, I have run some additional numbers,
1163
00:51:32,404 --> 00:51:37,658
and I think you'll find
them very interesting.
1164
00:51:37,775 --> 00:51:40,944
If you could give me a call back
at your earliest convenience.
1165
00:51:41,029 --> 00:51:42,579
Thank you.
1166
00:51:46,117 --> 00:51:48,285
Hello.
1167
00:51:48,419 --> 00:51:50,120
Hi.
1168
00:51:50,255 --> 00:51:52,122
I'm Eleanor, Bernie's new secretary.
1169
00:51:52,257 --> 00:51:53,173
You must be Ruth.
1170
00:51:53,291 --> 00:51:55,792
I mean Mrs. Madoff.
1171
00:51:55,877 --> 00:51:56,793
It's nice to meet you.
1172
00:51:56,928 --> 00:51:58,212
Uh-huh. Nice to meet you, too.
1173
00:51:58,296 --> 00:52:00,430
So, where is he?
1174
00:52:00,515 --> 00:52:02,299
I just got back from
Florida with my sister.
1175
00:52:02,433 --> 00:52:03,600
He was supposed to have lunch with us.
1176
00:52:03,685 --> 00:52:04,885
He's not picking up his phone.
1177
00:52:04,969 --> 00:52:08,855
Um, Mr. Berman needed
him up at his offices.
1178
00:52:08,973 --> 00:52:11,775
He's gonna be in meetings all afternoon.
1179
00:52:11,859 --> 00:52:13,143
What's your name again?
1180
00:52:13,277 --> 00:52:14,444
Eleanor.
1181
00:52:14,529 --> 00:52:15,946
Eleanor Squillari.
1182
00:52:20,451 --> 00:52:21,985
Oh, good girl.
1183
00:52:23,488 --> 00:52:25,155
One of your other mistresses?
1184
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,457
My secretary.
1185
00:52:27,542 --> 00:52:29,626
Oh, come on. Tell me there are others.
1186
00:52:29,710 --> 00:52:30,627
Make me jealous.
1187
00:52:30,711 --> 00:52:32,245
Sorry, kid.
1188
00:52:32,330 --> 00:52:34,548
Only you.
1189
00:52:36,834 --> 00:52:40,170
Uh, hello, Mr. Ward.
This is Harry Markopolos.
1190
00:52:40,304 --> 00:52:42,973
I am checking with you again
1191
00:52:43,057 --> 00:52:47,260
regarding the Madoff
materials that I sent to you,
1192
00:52:47,345 --> 00:52:51,064
and, um, if you wouldn't
mind giving me a call back,
1193
00:52:51,182 --> 00:52:53,850
um, you can reach me through Ed Manion.
1194
00:52:53,985 --> 00:52:57,604
Do you know what I see
everywhere that I look, Ed?
1195
00:52:57,688 --> 00:52:59,406
I see red flags.
1196
00:52:59,523 --> 00:53:03,243
Red flag number one... why
aren't the commissions charged
1197
00:53:03,361 --> 00:53:04,778
fully disclosed to investors?
1198
00:53:04,862 --> 00:53:09,032
Red flag number two... why would
Madoff leave 4% on the table?
1199
00:53:09,166 --> 00:53:10,250
I'll tell you why.
1200
00:53:10,368 --> 00:53:11,618
It's a con. It's a scheme.
1201
00:53:11,702 --> 00:53:13,703
It's to lure them in.
It's to make them happy.
1202
00:53:13,838 --> 00:53:15,622
That's what that 4% is for.
1203
00:53:15,706 --> 00:53:17,207
Yes, hello, Mr. Ward.
1204
00:53:17,291 --> 00:53:18,708
This is Harry Markopolos
1205
00:53:18,793 --> 00:53:22,212
calling you once again
regarding the Madoff materials.
1206
00:53:22,346 --> 00:53:25,465
Red flag number 12... Madoff goes 100% cash
1207
00:53:25,549 --> 00:53:27,217
for every December 31st year-end.
1208
00:53:27,301 --> 00:53:29,769
See, that effectively
wipes the books clean.
1209
00:53:29,887 --> 00:53:32,355
Red flag number 31...
some guy in a strip mall
1210
00:53:32,439 --> 00:53:33,356
is his independent auditor
1211
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,141
verifying the accounting entries.
1212
00:53:35,226 --> 00:53:36,460
Now, you're... you're...
you're... you're...
1213
00:53:36,485 --> 00:53:37,334
you're forcing me to conclude
1214
00:53:37,394 --> 00:53:40,697
that you are simply unwilling
to take on anyone of real power,
1215
00:53:40,781 --> 00:53:44,117
or you're simply unable
to grasp the magnitude
1216
00:53:44,235 --> 00:53:46,035
of what it is that I've shown you,
1217
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:47,820
or you're just too lazy
to do anything about it.
1218
00:53:49,807 --> 00:53:51,124
This account, Shana?
1219
00:53:51,242 --> 00:53:52,125
Are you sure?
1220
00:53:52,243 --> 00:53:53,576
Yeah. Try this one.
1221
00:53:53,711 --> 00:53:55,211
Euros.
1222
00:53:55,312 --> 00:53:57,080
Pesos. Yen.
1223
00:53:57,214 --> 00:53:59,415
You set 'em up, and I'll knock 'em down.
1224
00:53:59,550 --> 00:54:00,800
Okay.
1225
00:54:07,391 --> 00:54:09,258
What's the matter?
1226
00:54:09,393 --> 00:54:12,562
It's okay, Bernie. Later. We'll talk.
1227
00:54:12,646 --> 00:54:13,563
No, no. No, no, no.
1228
00:54:13,647 --> 00:54:15,014
We'll talk... we'll talk now.
1229
00:54:15,099 --> 00:54:16,432
What?
1230
00:54:16,567 --> 00:54:17,934
R-Roger.
1231
00:54:18,068 --> 00:54:20,820
Oh.
1232
00:54:23,157 --> 00:54:25,158
- Does it work?
- Um... Yeah.
1233
00:54:25,275 --> 00:54:26,242
Hold on. Let me try one more thing.
1234
00:54:26,343 --> 00:54:28,027
Okay.
1235
00:54:28,112 --> 00:54:29,695
Let me just...
1236
00:54:29,780 --> 00:54:30,997
What's going on?
1237
00:54:31,081 --> 00:54:33,416
Hmm?
1238
00:54:35,502 --> 00:54:36,869
He told him.
1239
00:54:36,954 --> 00:54:38,671
Told him what?
1240
00:54:38,789 --> 00:54:41,707
Roger's sick.
1241
00:54:45,512 --> 00:54:47,380
What kind is it?
1242
00:54:47,464 --> 00:54:49,215
Leukemia.
1243
00:54:49,299 --> 00:54:51,133
The poisoned heirloom.
1244
00:54:51,218 --> 00:54:53,970
The Madoff family curse.
1245
00:55:03,814 --> 00:55:04,981
Yeah?
1246
00:55:05,115 --> 00:55:07,199
Is this Harry Mark-Opolos?
1247
00:55:08,368 --> 00:55:10,653
Marko-Polos.
1248
00:55:10,737 --> 00:55:11,787
Who is this?
1249
00:55:11,872 --> 00:55:13,406
Michael Ocrant.
1250
00:55:13,490 --> 00:55:15,374
I'm a financial reporter.
1251
00:55:15,492 --> 00:55:16,992
I heard that you've been digging around
1252
00:55:17,127 --> 00:55:18,661
in the workings of Madoff's fund
1253
00:55:18,745 --> 00:55:20,246
and have some concerns.
1254
00:55:20,330 --> 00:55:22,214
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Who... who... who is it?
1255
00:55:22,332 --> 00:55:23,833
Michael Ocrant.
1256
00:55:23,967 --> 00:55:26,168
I'm a financial-news reporter.
1257
00:55:29,172 --> 00:55:32,007
And if I look you up, I'll
find your credentials online?
1258
00:55:32,092 --> 00:55:35,177
Is a national press club
award good enough for you?
1259
00:55:35,262 --> 00:55:36,612
If I do go ahead and print this,
1260
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,230
the whole industry's gonna read it.
1261
00:55:38,348 --> 00:55:42,184
You can be sure the mainstream
press won't be far behind.
1262
00:55:42,285 --> 00:55:44,570
If I told you what I had on Madoff,
1263
00:55:44,688 --> 00:55:48,023
you wouldn't have the guts to print it.
1264
00:55:48,158 --> 00:55:50,025
Try me, Mr. Markopolos.
1265
00:55:54,412 --> 00:55:56,663
The Barron's article followed
that industry newsletter.
1266
00:55:56,781 --> 00:55:57,781
I know a lot of you have been buzzing
1267
00:55:57,865 --> 00:55:59,349
about the Barron's article.
1268
00:55:59,450 --> 00:56:02,753
First thing I want you to do is read it.
1269
00:56:02,837 --> 00:56:05,005
But read the whole article,
not just the headline...
1270
00:56:05,123 --> 00:56:08,008
Because once you do that, you're
gonna find out pretty quick
1271
00:56:08,126 --> 00:56:09,793
what they're actually saying
1272
00:56:09,877 --> 00:56:12,679
is that Dad's competitors are jealous
1273
00:56:12,797 --> 00:56:16,049
because he is outclassing them
and they can't figure out how.
1274
00:56:16,133 --> 00:56:18,385
Luckily, both reporters called me,
1275
00:56:18,469 --> 00:56:19,970
and I fed them a pack of lies.
1276
00:56:20,104 --> 00:56:23,223
All they ended up printing
was that I was secretive
1277
00:56:23,307 --> 00:56:24,608
and had some skeptics
1278
00:56:24,692 --> 00:56:26,860
questioning my consistent returns.
1279
00:56:26,978 --> 00:56:30,113
"One of the top three market
markers in Nasdaq stocks."
1280
00:56:30,197 --> 00:56:32,482
You put Mark in charge of damage control.
1281
00:56:32,567 --> 00:56:33,650
You sure he's up to it?
1282
00:56:33,784 --> 00:56:34,734
Sure he's up to it?
1283
00:56:34,819 --> 00:56:35,902
He's brilliant at it.
1284
00:56:35,987 --> 00:56:37,037
They love him up there.
1285
00:56:37,154 --> 00:56:39,239
And besides, he don't know squat.
1286
00:56:39,323 --> 00:56:41,124
It's you I'm more concerned about.
1287
00:56:41,158 --> 00:56:42,876
- Me?
- Yeah. You gonna be ready?
1288
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,411
- When have I not been?
- Look...
1289
00:56:44,495 --> 00:56:48,298
Every single one of our clients
is gonna read this article.
1290
00:56:48,382 --> 00:56:52,802
We can't afford another
SEC investigation, Frank.
1291
00:56:52,887 --> 00:56:54,754
Don't worry, Bernie.
1292
00:56:54,905 --> 00:56:56,423
I'll be ready.
1293
00:56:56,507 --> 00:56:57,891
What do you got?
1294
00:56:58,008 --> 00:57:01,594
I got ace-king.
1295
00:57:42,353 --> 00:57:44,554
My sister called me today.
1296
00:57:44,638 --> 00:57:45,772
Yeah?
1297
00:57:45,889 --> 00:57:48,725
She and Bob read that Barron's article,
1298
00:57:48,809 --> 00:57:52,028
and they had all kinds
of questions about how...
1299
00:57:52,112 --> 00:57:54,564
exactly how you handle their money.
1300
00:57:54,648 --> 00:57:55,898
And what did you tell them?
1301
00:57:55,983 --> 00:57:57,567
What... what do you think I told them?
1302
00:57:57,701 --> 00:57:59,285
I told them to call you.
1303
00:57:59,403 --> 00:58:02,572
What the hell do I know about it all?
1304
00:58:02,706 --> 00:58:04,207
What are you drinking?
1305
00:58:04,291 --> 00:58:06,409
This is the '89 Château Latour
1306
00:58:06,460 --> 00:58:08,494
that Carl gave us for our anniversary.
1307
00:58:08,579 --> 00:58:10,496
It's so delicious.
1308
00:58:10,581 --> 00:58:11,664
Get a glass.
1309
00:58:11,748 --> 00:58:13,716
He said that you should only wait 10 years
1310
00:58:13,801 --> 00:58:15,134
and then drink it.
1311
00:58:15,252 --> 00:58:16,969
So...
1312
00:58:17,087 --> 00:58:19,505
Is that what you really told them?
1313
00:58:19,590 --> 00:58:21,807
To... to call me?
1314
00:58:21,925 --> 00:58:23,092
No.
1315
00:58:23,176 --> 00:58:26,646
I told them that if they had
any doubts about my husband,
1316
00:58:26,763 --> 00:58:28,514
they... they should feel free
1317
00:58:28,599 --> 00:58:30,099
to take their money out of the fund
1318
00:58:30,183 --> 00:58:32,234
and go back to life before you came along
1319
00:58:32,319 --> 00:58:33,352
and made them rich...
1320
00:58:33,437 --> 00:58:37,239
richer than they ever dreamed possible.
1321
00:58:46,283 --> 00:58:48,617
You're the best.
1322
00:58:48,752 --> 00:58:50,169
No, you are.
1323
00:58:55,625 --> 00:58:57,259
Bernie, I'm sorry to impose again.
1324
00:58:57,344 --> 00:58:59,962
No, no, no, no. No apology necessary.
1325
00:59:00,096 --> 00:59:01,764
If I saw an article
like the one in Barron's,
1326
00:59:01,848 --> 00:59:03,182
I'd have questions, too.
1327
00:59:03,300 --> 00:59:06,535
You do know it's not us
who the need the assurance.
1328
00:59:06,636 --> 00:59:09,889
It's just a few squeaky-wheel clients...
1329
00:59:09,973 --> 00:59:11,307
You might think that the managers
1330
00:59:11,441 --> 00:59:13,142
of one of my biggest feeder funds
1331
00:59:13,276 --> 00:59:16,562
were here because the Barron's
article had people talking.
1332
00:59:16,646 --> 00:59:18,397
Of course, you certainly don't need us
1333
00:59:18,481 --> 00:59:20,482
to tell you how tricky clients can be.
1334
00:59:20,617 --> 00:59:21,951
Maybe it was the article.
1335
00:59:22,035 --> 00:59:25,037
Or maybe it was just the
little voices in their heads
1336
00:59:25,155 --> 00:59:28,791
worrying if my returns
were too good to be true.
1337
00:59:28,875 --> 00:59:31,543
But obviously we put a lot of stake
1338
00:59:31,661 --> 00:59:34,046
in our reputation for due diligence.
1339
00:59:34,164 --> 00:59:38,217
So we really appreciate you taking the time
1340
00:59:38,334 --> 00:59:41,303
to lay it all out for us.
1341
00:59:44,974 --> 00:59:47,426
This is Frank DiPascali,
1342
00:59:47,510 --> 00:59:51,346
the vice president of systems
and technology for our firm.
1343
00:59:52,348 --> 00:59:55,100
How was the traffic coming down 95?
1344
00:59:55,185 --> 00:59:57,236
- Not bad.
- Merritt was pretty clear.
1345
00:59:57,353 --> 01:00:01,023
Now, I assume the best place
to start is a walk-through
1346
01:00:01,107 --> 01:00:03,158
of how we execute trades on your behalf.
1347
01:00:03,243 --> 01:00:05,294
Translation... "I know
that you want some proof
1348
01:00:05,361 --> 01:00:09,448
that the trades listed in those
monthly statements are legit."
1349
01:00:09,532 --> 01:00:12,034
This software is our direct link
1350
01:00:12,118 --> 01:00:13,702
to the European options markets,
1351
01:00:13,836 --> 01:00:16,255
where we find most of our counterparties.
1352
01:00:16,372 --> 01:00:18,373
Now...
1353
01:00:18,508 --> 01:00:22,260
Let's buy a hedge option on...
1354
01:00:22,378 --> 01:00:24,379
I'll tell you what. You choose it.
1355
01:00:24,514 --> 01:00:26,848
AOL.
1356
01:00:35,892 --> 01:00:37,776
And there you go.
1357
01:00:37,894 --> 01:00:39,861
This is a call option from Germany.
1358
01:00:39,962 --> 01:00:41,480
And if we want a put...
1359
01:00:48,604 --> 01:00:49,955
Bingo.
1360
01:00:50,072 --> 01:00:52,240
This one's from London.
1361
01:00:52,325 --> 01:00:55,877
And there you have it. The
split strike is in place.
1362
01:00:55,962 --> 01:00:59,664
Now let's go over a few
more of your positions.
1363
01:00:59,749 --> 01:01:01,299
Oh, I don't know. I think that's, um...
1364
01:01:01,417 --> 01:01:03,752
that's probably sufficient, right?
1365
01:01:07,390 --> 01:01:08,757
What about the DTC?
1366
01:01:08,891 --> 01:01:10,325
The Depository Trust Company.
1367
01:01:10,426 --> 01:01:13,428
Aka the DTC.
1368
01:01:13,512 --> 01:01:14,930
This is the clearinghouse
1369
01:01:15,064 --> 01:01:18,600
that actually holds the
stocks that traders trade.
1370
01:01:18,734 --> 01:01:22,237
Problem is, if you're not
actually buying a single stock
1371
01:01:22,321 --> 01:01:23,371
for your investors...
1372
01:01:23,472 --> 01:01:25,323
If you're just taking their money
1373
01:01:25,441 --> 01:01:28,209
and putting it into your own
chase Manhattan bank account,
1374
01:01:28,344 --> 01:01:32,080
your DTC is the one place
that it would show up
1375
01:01:32,164 --> 01:01:33,865
like an elephant at a tea party.
1376
01:01:33,949 --> 01:01:36,835
Sure.
1377
01:01:36,952 --> 01:01:41,206
Jut give me a SEC, and I'll
pull up the feed to DTC.
1378
01:01:52,334 --> 01:01:55,136
And there you go.
1379
01:01:55,271 --> 01:01:56,888
Frank, you beautiful man.
1380
01:01:56,972 --> 01:02:00,808
You created an entire fake DTC portal.
1381
01:02:00,893 --> 01:02:04,445
Well I guess that's a wrap.
1382
01:02:04,530 --> 01:02:05,813
- Thank you, Bernie.
- Thanks.
1383
01:02:05,948 --> 01:02:07,865
- Frank, nice to meet you.
- You too.
1384
01:02:07,983 --> 01:02:09,067
- Thanks.
- Thanks.
1385
01:02:09,151 --> 01:02:10,618
- Nice job.
- Thanks.
1386
01:02:15,958 --> 01:02:18,459
You want to know what the best thing is?
1387
01:02:18,544 --> 01:02:21,879
My DTC portal looks more
real than the real one.
1388
01:02:24,216 --> 01:02:25,299
This...
1389
01:02:25,384 --> 01:02:26,584
This is a Rembrandt.
1390
01:02:31,994 --> 01:02:33,912
New York...
1391
01:02:33,996 --> 01:02:36,848
Didn't find it actionable?
1392
01:02:36,949 --> 01:02:39,167
How can that be?
1393
01:02:39,285 --> 01:02:41,119
It's right there in Barron's!
1394
01:02:41,254 --> 01:02:42,621
Are they not able to read?
1395
01:02:42,705 --> 01:02:44,289
Harry, you... you got to understand.
1396
01:02:44,373 --> 01:02:47,342
The SEC only has 180 investigative agents.
1397
01:02:47,460 --> 01:02:50,095
We're supposed to police $12.7 trillion
1398
01:02:50,179 --> 01:02:51,796
trading hands on Wall Street every year.
1399
01:02:51,931 --> 01:02:53,157
- Yes.
- I mean, i... it's not a
1400
01:02:53,182 --> 01:02:54,456
vast conspiracy, Harry.
1401
01:02:54,517 --> 01:02:56,077
- We're just outgunned.
- This...
1402
01:02:56,102 --> 01:02:57,960
this is Bernard Madoff...
1403
01:02:58,020 --> 01:03:02,574
Who manages $18 billion to $24 billion.
1404
01:03:02,675 --> 01:03:06,945
Until this article, 175 of
your 180 enforcement agents
1405
01:03:07,029 --> 01:03:08,146
have never heard of him.
1406
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,816
That is not outgunned, Ed.
1407
01:03:12,985 --> 01:03:14,953
That is simply inept.
1408
01:03:16,071 --> 01:03:17,455
You want to see action on this?
1409
01:03:17,540 --> 01:03:19,491
Your only hope is to get Meaghan Cheung
1410
01:03:19,625 --> 01:03:22,911
of the SEC in New York to
sit up and pay attention.
1411
01:03:22,995 --> 01:03:24,796
And the only way you can do that, Harry,
1412
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,664
is to avoid shooting yourself in the foot
1413
01:03:26,749 --> 01:03:28,833
with all that quantitative analysis.
1414
01:03:28,968 --> 01:03:30,084
I mean, you got to make it simple.
1415
01:03:30,169 --> 01:03:31,336
You got to make it so simple
1416
01:03:31,420 --> 01:03:34,672
that a second-grader can understand it.
1417
01:03:38,010 --> 01:03:39,677
Hey, Bernie, you got a sec?
1418
01:03:39,812 --> 01:03:41,262
Mm-hmm.
1419
01:03:41,347 --> 01:03:43,181
Well, I just noticed that my paycheck
1420
01:03:43,315 --> 01:03:45,350
was 25% bigger this pay period.
1421
01:03:45,484 --> 01:03:48,236
And you wanted me to knock it down?
1422
01:03:48,354 --> 01:03:49,921
No, of course not. I just...
1423
01:03:50,022 --> 01:03:52,523
I just thought maybe there
was some kind of mistake.
1424
01:03:52,658 --> 01:03:54,409
Well, it was a mistake.
1425
01:03:54,526 --> 01:03:57,495
I realized that you
are raising two children
1426
01:03:57,596 --> 01:03:59,197
and I wasn't paying you enough.
1427
01:03:59,331 --> 01:04:01,282
So it was my mistake.
1428
01:04:01,366 --> 01:04:03,367
Thank you.
1429
01:04:03,452 --> 01:04:04,535
Thank you very much.
1430
01:04:04,670 --> 01:04:05,870
You're welcome.
1431
01:04:05,954 --> 01:04:07,038
I want you to know how proud I am
1432
01:04:07,172 --> 01:04:10,107
to work here for someone as kind as you.
1433
01:04:10,209 --> 01:04:11,542
Thank you.
1434
01:04:13,345 --> 01:04:15,463
Eleanor, could you do me a favor?
1435
01:04:15,547 --> 01:04:17,298
Would you mind, um...
1436
01:04:17,382 --> 01:04:21,519
Saying all those nice
things about me again?
1437
01:04:23,805 --> 01:04:26,224
All right.
1438
01:04:26,358 --> 01:04:29,360
I just want you to know how proud I am
1439
01:04:29,444 --> 01:04:33,698
to work for someone so kind, so generous,
1440
01:04:33,782 --> 01:04:36,200
so sweet...
1441
01:04:36,285 --> 01:04:37,568
So handsome...
1442
01:04:38,704 --> 01:04:40,121
... and so funny.
1443
01:04:42,574 --> 01:04:43,991
So, thank you.
1444
01:04:44,076 --> 01:04:46,077
"I am the original source
1445
01:04:46,161 --> 01:04:47,795
for the information presented here
1446
01:04:47,913 --> 01:04:49,964
and having first presented my rationale
1447
01:04:50,082 --> 01:04:51,415
both verbally and in writing
1448
01:04:51,550 --> 01:04:54,885
to the SEC's Boston office in May 1999.
1449
01:04:54,970 --> 01:04:56,837
There are two possible scenarios
1450
01:04:56,922 --> 01:04:59,523
that involve fraud by Madoff Securities.
1451
01:04:59,624 --> 01:05:01,258
Scenario 1, unlikely...
1452
01:05:01,393 --> 01:05:03,894
Bernard Madoff is earning
those returns by front running,
1453
01:05:03,995 --> 01:05:06,097
buying in ahead of his own clients.
1454
01:05:06,181 --> 01:05:08,399
Scenario 2, highly likely...
1455
01:05:08,483 --> 01:05:12,653
Madoff Securities is the
world's largest Ponzi scheme."
1456
01:05:12,771 --> 01:05:15,489
_
1457
01:05:15,607 --> 01:05:16,657
Harry Markopolos.
1458
01:05:16,775 --> 01:05:18,609
I had a 10:15 with Meaghan Cheung.
1459
01:05:18,743 --> 01:05:19,743
Okay.
1460
01:05:19,778 --> 01:05:22,413
I'll let her know you're here.
1461
01:05:22,497 --> 01:05:23,664
I'll...
1462
01:05:51,810 --> 01:05:53,477
Meaghan Cheung's office.
1463
01:05:53,611 --> 01:05:55,028
Yes, ma'am.
1464
01:05:55,146 --> 01:05:56,980
I'll let him know.
1465
01:05:57,115 --> 01:05:58,448
Mr. Mark-Opolos?
1466
01:05:58,533 --> 01:06:00,984
- Marko-Polos. Thank you.
- I'm sorry.
1467
01:06:01,069 --> 01:06:02,152
Mrs. Cheung just called to say
1468
01:06:02,237 --> 01:06:03,620
that she won't be back in this afternoon.
1469
01:06:03,705 --> 01:06:06,457
She'll have to cancel your meeting.
1470
01:06:08,660 --> 01:06:11,328
Is there a message I could leave for her?
1471
01:06:17,168 --> 01:06:18,835
Just make sure she gets that.
1472
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,265
Hey. Bernie. I'm just finishing up here.
1473
01:06:32,350 --> 01:06:34,101
I'm getting ready to take
the boat down to the shore.
1474
01:06:34,185 --> 01:06:37,020
You're gonna have to
cancel your vacation, Frank.
1475
01:06:37,105 --> 01:06:39,022
We're getting audited.
1476
01:06:45,612 --> 01:06:48,331
When the SEC audits you,
they don't call you in.
1477
01:06:48,415 --> 01:06:50,416
They come to you.
1478
01:06:52,870 --> 01:06:55,538
They set up shop inside your firm.
1479
01:06:55,672 --> 01:06:57,673
For weeks. For months.
1480
01:06:57,758 --> 01:07:00,593
As long as they want.
1481
01:07:00,711 --> 01:07:02,778
Are those chairs comfortable?
1482
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:04,046
They are.
1483
01:07:04,181 --> 01:07:06,132
They look... they don't
look very comfortable.
1484
01:07:06,216 --> 01:07:10,052
We have other, uh,
ergonomically correct chairs.
1485
01:07:11,438 --> 01:07:14,190
Could we bring in those...
those other chairs?
1486
01:07:14,274 --> 01:07:15,441
One second.
1487
01:07:18,061 --> 01:07:20,062
So, my plan was simple...
1488
01:07:20,197 --> 01:07:22,148
keep them isolated...
1489
01:07:22,232 --> 01:07:25,318
Keep them captive.
1490
01:07:25,402 --> 01:07:28,821
Let Frank bury them in fake paperwork.
1491
01:07:28,905 --> 01:07:30,740
I'm sorry.
1492
01:07:30,791 --> 01:07:31,991
I... I thought they were bringing in
1493
01:07:32,075 --> 01:07:33,326
something to eat for you guys.
1494
01:07:33,410 --> 01:07:35,544
Make the captivity pleasant.
1495
01:07:35,629 --> 01:07:37,129
These are great, by the way.
1496
01:07:37,247 --> 01:07:39,548
They're the only doughnut I ever eat.
1497
01:07:40,584 --> 01:07:42,585
There you go. Here's some coffee.
1498
01:07:42,719 --> 01:07:44,136
I don't mean to put you
out. Do you have any cream?
1499
01:07:44,254 --> 01:07:48,224
Yeah. Could we have some
cream, please, with the coffee?
1500
01:07:48,308 --> 01:07:50,092
- It's a not huge deal.
- No, no, no.
1501
01:07:50,227 --> 01:07:51,977
And when they least expect it,
1502
01:07:52,095 --> 01:07:55,931
mix in a little good,
old-fashioned bullying.
1503
01:07:56,900 --> 01:07:59,485
How long are you people
gonna be here, huh?!
1504
01:08:01,104 --> 01:08:03,656
I need the room!
1505
01:08:04,991 --> 01:08:07,943
But that's all just cover
for the key ingredient...
1506
01:08:08,028 --> 01:08:09,245
misdirection.
1507
01:08:09,329 --> 01:08:10,779
Hey.
1508
01:08:10,864 --> 01:08:13,916
You find any of that
insider-trading stuff?
1509
01:08:21,091 --> 01:08:22,258
Ah. Hey, Eleanor.
1510
01:08:22,342 --> 01:08:23,959
I'm gonna need that 1991 filing.
1511
01:08:24,044 --> 01:08:25,094
Sure thing.
1512
01:08:25,178 --> 01:08:26,628
Thank you.
1513
01:08:27,797 --> 01:08:28,847
Hey, Bernie.
1514
01:08:28,965 --> 01:08:30,466
They're asking for the 1991 filing.
1515
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:31,517
What should I send her?
1516
01:08:31,634 --> 01:08:33,635
I'll take it.
1517
01:08:35,855 --> 01:08:37,222
Frank.
1518
01:08:40,026 --> 01:08:41,110
All right. How they looking?
1519
01:08:41,194 --> 01:08:42,644
I think that looks really good.
1520
01:08:42,729 --> 01:08:43,862
Are you stupid, Jodi?
1521
01:08:43,980 --> 01:08:45,197
They're supposed to look 15 years old.
1522
01:08:45,315 --> 01:08:46,281
What's the matter with you?
1523
01:08:46,366 --> 01:08:47,399
Danny!
1524
01:08:50,487 --> 01:08:52,488
Come on, come on, come on.
1525
01:08:57,210 --> 01:08:58,744
That's the way you do it.
1526
01:09:02,999 --> 01:09:05,384
Get a little bit of this on here.
1527
01:09:05,502 --> 01:09:07,336
Okay.
1528
01:09:07,470 --> 01:09:09,338
All right, put it in the
box for everything up on 19.
1529
01:09:09,472 --> 01:09:11,340
And make sure that Eleanor sees it.
1530
01:09:11,424 --> 01:09:12,474
Yeah, absolutely.
1531
01:09:19,515 --> 01:09:21,683
Well, looks like all of it.
1532
01:09:21,818 --> 01:09:23,185
That should do it for us.
1533
01:09:23,269 --> 01:09:24,236
Well...
1534
01:09:24,353 --> 01:09:26,021
It's about damn time, too.
1535
01:09:26,105 --> 01:09:27,906
That's all right.
1536
01:09:28,024 --> 01:09:29,074
You three are okay.
1537
01:09:29,192 --> 01:09:31,193
You just got crappy jobs.
1538
01:09:31,327 --> 01:09:33,695
Why, thank you very much.
1539
01:09:33,830 --> 01:09:35,580
Well, uh, once we turn everything in,
1540
01:09:35,698 --> 01:09:37,365
the higher-ups will be in
touch about an interview,
1541
01:09:37,500 --> 01:09:38,917
and that will be that.
1542
01:09:39,035 --> 01:09:40,535
Interview with?
1543
01:09:40,620 --> 01:09:43,171
With... oh. With our boss, David Green.
1544
01:09:43,256 --> 01:09:44,623
It's pretty much just a formality.
1545
01:09:44,707 --> 01:09:47,926
Okay. Well, anything they need.
1546
01:09:48,044 --> 01:09:49,844
- All right.
- Get back to your crappy lives.
1547
01:09:49,929 --> 01:09:51,179
Why, thank you.
1548
01:09:51,264 --> 01:09:52,646
- Take care.
- And if you do
1549
01:09:52,671 --> 01:09:54,456
need anything, I'll be here.
1550
01:09:57,887 --> 01:09:59,854
_
1551
01:09:59,939 --> 01:10:01,389
A formality.
1552
01:10:01,524 --> 01:10:06,361
That's what Agent Jamison
had called the SEC interview.
1553
01:10:06,445 --> 01:10:07,612
No.
1554
01:10:07,730 --> 01:10:08,897
This was more than that.
1555
01:10:08,981 --> 01:10:11,066
They were asking all kinds of questions.
1556
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,234
Was... was this common
practice at that time?
1557
01:10:13,286 --> 01:10:15,954
Ones that I hadn't anticipated.
1558
01:10:16,072 --> 01:10:19,791
This was gonna be more
than just a formality.
1559
01:10:19,909 --> 01:10:23,878
The SEC wasn't gonna let this
investigation go so easily.
1560
01:10:23,963 --> 01:10:27,132
I know that I am guilty.
1561
01:10:27,249 --> 01:10:30,885
And I broke the law.
1562
01:10:30,970 --> 01:10:34,956
And I never registered
as an investment adviser.
1563
01:10:35,057 --> 01:10:37,459
Why don't we do what I came to do today
1564
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,011
and finally register as
an investment adviser,
1565
01:10:40,095 --> 01:10:43,681
and you can name the
penalties, and I will pay them?
1566
01:10:43,766 --> 01:10:45,850
This was a chance to close the deal.
1567
01:10:45,935 --> 01:10:49,437
Throw the SEC the crumb they
could use to claim victory.
1568
01:10:49,522 --> 01:10:51,739
Surrender a meaningless battle,
1569
01:10:51,824 --> 01:10:53,608
and they forget all about the war.
1570
01:10:53,692 --> 01:10:55,276
Well, that's a... a great relief
1571
01:10:55,361 --> 01:10:56,578
to hear, Mr. Madoff.
1572
01:10:56,662 --> 01:10:58,613
I think we can wrap this
up pretty quickly, then,
1573
01:10:58,697 --> 01:11:00,448
unless anybody has anything else.
1574
01:11:00,499 --> 01:11:04,669
Oh, just one little housekeeping
item we never got around to.
1575
01:11:04,787 --> 01:11:06,454
Yes, yes. Go ahead, Tom.
1576
01:11:06,555 --> 01:11:08,706
Your DTC account number?
1577
01:11:08,791 --> 01:11:10,458
Crap!
1578
01:11:10,460 --> 01:11:12,527
Frank's fake computer programs
1579
01:11:12,628 --> 01:11:15,430
could fool the hedge
funds, but not the SEC.
1580
01:11:15,514 --> 01:11:18,833
They could just call up
DTC and ask for a statement,
1581
01:11:18,934 --> 01:11:20,852
and if I made up a fake account number,
1582
01:11:20,969 --> 01:11:22,520
they'd find out the moment they called.
1583
01:11:22,638 --> 01:11:25,106
My DTC account. Yes, of course.
1584
01:11:25,190 --> 01:11:27,058
Um...
1585
01:11:27,142 --> 01:11:29,944
I, uh
1586
01:11:30,028 --> 01:11:32,230
That's not something I
carry around in my head.
1587
01:11:32,314 --> 01:11:34,532
Uh, DTC.
1588
01:11:34,650 --> 01:11:37,485
6594.
1589
01:11:39,321 --> 01:11:41,322
And with those four numbers,
1590
01:11:41,406 --> 01:11:43,457
I'd given them the doomsday code.
1591
01:11:43,542 --> 01:11:45,376
One call. Okay.
1592
01:11:45,494 --> 01:11:48,329
And I am dead.
1593
01:11:48,413 --> 01:11:49,547
Thank you.
1594
01:11:52,984 --> 01:11:55,285
40 years of keeping the music playing,
1595
01:11:55,370 --> 01:11:59,322
and on Monday morning, the
SEC was gonna call the DTC
1596
01:11:59,407 --> 01:12:02,125
and discover there wasn't a single stock
1597
01:12:02,210 --> 01:12:04,995
for a single investor
in the Madoff account.
1598
01:12:05,129 --> 01:12:07,464
Bern, coffee.
1599
01:12:07,548 --> 01:12:08,915
Bernie?
1600
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:10,333
Hey, Bern!
1601
01:12:11,636 --> 01:12:13,770
You change your name and forget to tell me?
1602
01:12:14,839 --> 01:12:18,642
Every day, I waited for the ax to fall.
1603
01:12:22,346 --> 01:12:25,815
Two days, three days, four days, five days.
1604
01:12:25,900 --> 01:12:28,235
A full week since the SEC
1605
01:12:28,352 --> 01:12:32,239
had asked for my DTC account number.
1606
01:12:32,356 --> 01:12:33,607
What's the matter?
1607
01:12:33,691 --> 01:12:36,359
Nothing.
1608
01:12:36,494 --> 01:12:38,328
Nothing.
1609
01:12:41,198 --> 01:12:44,668
Were they preparing to arrest
me in full view of the world?
1610
01:12:44,752 --> 01:12:46,036
Show up at the office
1611
01:12:46,170 --> 01:12:48,872
and make me do the perp
walk in front of the cameras?
1612
01:12:49,006 --> 01:12:51,541
Where the hell were they?
1613
01:12:53,210 --> 01:12:54,377
Hey, Dad. You have a minute?
1614
01:12:57,214 --> 01:13:00,216
So, I, uh...
1615
01:13:00,351 --> 01:13:02,886
I wanted to tell you
this first because, um...
1616
01:13:03,020 --> 01:13:07,123
Because I'm not exactly sure
how... how Mom's gonna react.
1617
01:13:07,224 --> 01:13:08,758
Okay.
1618
01:13:08,859 --> 01:13:10,560
I'm gonna ask Steph to marry me.
1619
01:13:13,063 --> 01:13:15,615
Don't... don't rush to say
"Mazel Tov" or anything.
1620
01:13:15,733 --> 01:13:17,233
No.
1621
01:13:17,318 --> 01:13:18,701
Oh, Mark. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
1622
01:13:18,786 --> 01:13:20,370
My head was... I'm really sorry.
1623
01:13:20,454 --> 01:13:22,572
Um, she's a fabulous girl.
1624
01:13:22,706 --> 01:13:24,324
She is. Yeah. Really.
1625
01:13:24,408 --> 01:13:26,009
It's gonna be great to have her finally
1626
01:13:26,076 --> 01:13:27,660
as part of the family.
1627
01:13:27,745 --> 01:13:28,745
Absolutely.
1628
01:13:28,879 --> 01:13:32,215
And I will welcome her with open arms.
1629
01:13:32,299 --> 01:13:34,300
Great.
1630
01:13:35,969 --> 01:13:37,503
Look, while I have you here,
1631
01:13:37,588 --> 01:13:39,589
can we talk business for a minute?
1632
01:13:39,723 --> 01:13:41,341
Yeah. What's on your mind?
1633
01:13:53,904 --> 01:13:57,573
Look.
1634
01:13:57,658 --> 01:13:59,776
You built this.
1635
01:13:59,910 --> 01:14:02,195
No one disputes that.
1636
01:14:02,279 --> 01:14:06,165
It's your hard work and
stature that made this place.
1637
01:14:06,283 --> 01:14:07,867
But?
1638
01:14:07,951 --> 01:14:10,336
But we all run it together now.
1639
01:14:10,454 --> 01:14:12,338
As a family.
1640
01:14:12,456 --> 01:14:16,008
Now, you're not gonna involve me and Andy
1641
01:14:16,126 --> 01:14:18,344
in the money-management side of things.
1642
01:14:18,462 --> 01:14:19,545
- Yet, yet.
- That's fine.
1643
01:14:19,630 --> 01:14:22,181
But uncle Peter and Andy and I...
1644
01:14:22,299 --> 01:14:24,600
we run the other half of the business.
1645
01:14:24,685 --> 01:14:27,937
Your point being?
1646
01:14:28,021 --> 01:14:30,940
I think we should change the name.
1647
01:14:31,041 --> 01:14:33,192
It should be Madoff Investment Securities.
1648
01:14:33,310 --> 01:14:35,561
Wait.
1649
01:14:35,646 --> 01:14:39,148
You want me to take my name
off the company that I built?
1650
01:14:39,282 --> 01:14:41,367
No. I want you to include ours.
1651
01:14:41,485 --> 01:14:43,619
Where did you get this? Huh?
1652
01:14:43,703 --> 01:14:45,287
- From her? Huh?
- Are you kidding?
1653
01:14:45,372 --> 01:14:47,490
I just want to know. I
think... are you kidding?
1654
01:14:47,574 --> 01:14:49,074
Because you better get a strong pre-nup.
1655
01:14:49,159 --> 01:14:50,910
Go to hell, you son of a bitch!
1656
01:14:52,662 --> 01:14:53,579
You will never,
1657
01:14:53,663 --> 01:14:56,415
ever be old enough
1658
01:14:56,500 --> 01:14:58,134
to say "Go to hell" to your father.
1659
01:14:58,218 --> 01:15:01,086
Never.
1660
01:15:02,973 --> 01:15:06,675
Do you have any idea of
the weight that I carry
1661
01:15:06,810 --> 01:15:08,844
to keep all of this afloat, huh?
1662
01:15:08,929 --> 01:15:10,763
Did... did it ever occur to you
1663
01:15:10,847 --> 01:15:12,514
that... that... that what I'm doing here
1664
01:15:12,649 --> 01:15:13,732
is... is to protect you?
1665
01:15:13,817 --> 01:15:15,434
I don't need you to protect me.
1666
01:15:15,518 --> 01:15:18,070
I need you to let me be my own man.
1667
01:15:18,188 --> 01:15:20,439
In time, you'll understand!
1668
01:15:28,915 --> 01:15:31,467
In time...
1669
01:15:31,568 --> 01:15:33,869
You'll understand.
1670
01:16:21,084 --> 01:16:23,719
Hey.
1671
01:16:23,803 --> 01:16:24,836
Sweetheart.
1672
01:16:24,921 --> 01:16:27,422
What? What's going on?
1673
01:16:29,759 --> 01:16:31,176
What is it?
1674
01:16:37,934 --> 01:16:39,518
You're sick, aren't you?
1675
01:16:39,602 --> 01:16:42,237
- Mantle cell lymphoma.
- Oh!
1676
01:16:42,321 --> 01:16:43,488
- It's okay.
- No.
1677
01:16:43,606 --> 01:16:44,906
I... I feel completely fine.
1678
01:16:44,991 --> 01:16:46,691
- What does that mean?
- It's in the blood.
1679
01:16:46,776 --> 01:16:48,743
- Oh, god.
- But we caught it early,
1680
01:16:48,778 --> 01:16:50,278
so I'm better off than most.
1681
01:16:50,363 --> 01:16:51,746
What are the survival rates?
1682
01:16:51,831 --> 01:16:53,198
- Oh, you would have to ask...
- Oh.
1683
01:16:53,282 --> 01:16:53,999
Oh, stop it!
1684
01:16:55,918 --> 01:16:57,786
It's 50-50, roughly.
1685
01:16:57,870 --> 01:16:59,921
There hasn't been much research on it.
1686
01:17:00,006 --> 01:17:01,256
Well, we can change that.
1687
01:17:01,340 --> 01:17:03,291
Every hospital,
1688
01:17:03,426 --> 01:17:07,295
every organization, every study...
1689
01:17:07,380 --> 01:17:09,214
I'll fund that.
1690
01:17:21,644 --> 01:17:23,561
Ruth.
1691
01:17:23,646 --> 01:17:25,313
Ruth...
1692
01:17:25,448 --> 01:17:27,699
I need you to pull it together.
1693
01:17:27,817 --> 01:17:29,734
- Oh, you do, do you?
- Yes.
1694
01:17:29,819 --> 01:17:30,952
And why is that?
1695
01:17:31,037 --> 01:17:32,537
You don't want to be happy, okay.
1696
01:17:32,655 --> 01:17:34,456
But at least, for crying out loud,
1697
01:17:34,540 --> 01:17:36,408
put on a good face, will you?
1698
01:17:36,492 --> 01:17:37,659
What we're going through with Andy...
1699
01:17:37,793 --> 01:17:39,160
what I'm going through...
1700
01:17:39,245 --> 01:17:41,496
I'm entitled to take a day off
1701
01:17:41,580 --> 01:17:43,915
from the bubbly socialite crap.
1702
01:17:43,999 --> 01:17:45,800
You know, this is not about Andy.
1703
01:17:45,885 --> 01:17:48,470
This is Shana's wedding night.
1704
01:17:48,554 --> 01:17:50,805
And Andy's getting the best
treatment money can buy.
1705
01:17:50,890 --> 01:17:51,839
Money?!
1706
01:17:51,924 --> 01:17:54,342
You can't throw money at this!
1707
01:17:54,477 --> 01:17:57,178
What he needs is his
father's love for a change,
1708
01:17:57,313 --> 01:17:58,847
not his checkbook.
1709
01:17:58,981 --> 01:18:02,066
It's his turn to be
the center of attention.
1710
01:18:02,151 --> 01:18:03,935
You know, this is your guilt.
1711
01:18:04,019 --> 01:18:05,186
It isn't mine.
1712
01:18:05,271 --> 01:18:07,322
I treat both my boys equally.
1713
01:18:07,406 --> 01:18:09,274
How dare you?
1714
01:18:09,358 --> 01:18:11,192
You think that it's... it's Mark
1715
01:18:11,276 --> 01:18:12,694
that's taken all my attention?
1716
01:18:12,778 --> 01:18:13,861
Neither of the boys
1717
01:18:13,946 --> 01:18:16,281
have taken half as much out of me as you!
1718
01:18:16,365 --> 01:18:19,701
I'm just telling you...
1719
01:18:19,835 --> 01:18:21,786
you better go easy on the open bar tonight.
1720
01:18:21,870 --> 01:18:24,038
Yeah, yeah, well, I'll just do damn well
1721
01:18:24,173 --> 01:18:27,675
whatever I please, okay?
1722
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:31,212
♪ Hava nagila ♪
1723
01:18:31,346 --> 01:18:33,631
♪ hava nagila ♪
1724
01:18:33,715 --> 01:18:37,518
♪ hava nagila ve-nis'mecha ♪
1725
01:18:37,603 --> 01:18:39,187
♪ hava nagila ♪
1726
01:18:39,271 --> 01:18:41,389
♪ hava nagila ♪
1727
01:18:41,490 --> 01:18:43,691
Shana's wedding was gonna be strange
1728
01:18:43,792 --> 01:18:45,276
no matter how you cut it.
1729
01:18:45,394 --> 01:18:46,694
- Father of the bride...
- I'm so proud of you.
1730
01:18:46,778 --> 01:18:48,646
... too consumed with care of his sick son.
1731
01:18:48,730 --> 01:18:51,949
Not just today, but on all days.
1732
01:18:52,067 --> 01:18:56,454
Mark parading around a fiancée
who looked like a Barbie doll.
1733
01:18:56,572 --> 01:18:59,206
Andrew with this brand-new shiksa goddess,
1734
01:18:59,241 --> 01:19:01,242
acting like cancer was the best thing
1735
01:19:01,326 --> 01:19:03,077
that ever happened to him.
1736
01:19:03,212 --> 01:19:04,829
And then there was Ruth...
1737
01:19:04,913 --> 01:19:07,665
furious with the world
about Andrew's cancer
1738
01:19:07,749 --> 01:19:09,667
and taking it out on me.
1739
01:19:09,751 --> 01:19:14,055
Like I said, Shana's wedding
was already gonna be strange.
1740
01:19:14,139 --> 01:19:17,558
But when you factor in
who she was marrying...
1741
01:19:17,643 --> 01:19:20,194
one of the very same SEC lawyers
1742
01:19:20,295 --> 01:19:24,181
who'd been involved
with investigating me...
1743
01:19:24,266 --> 01:19:26,934
it was like welcoming the executioners
1744
01:19:27,018 --> 01:19:30,521
with the ax over my head
as guests in my home.
1745
01:19:30,605 --> 01:19:32,239
♪ Hava nagila ♪
1746
01:19:32,324 --> 01:19:34,658
♪ hava nagila ♪
1747
01:19:34,776 --> 01:19:38,362
♪ hava nagila ve-nis'mecha ♪
1748
01:19:38,446 --> 01:19:40,114
♪ hava nagila ♪
1749
01:19:40,248 --> 01:19:41,115
♪ hava nagila ♪
1750
01:19:41,249 --> 01:19:42,700
And that's when it hit me.
1751
01:19:42,784 --> 01:19:46,921
This was the moment the
SEC had been waiting for.
1752
01:19:47,005 --> 01:19:49,673
The most dramatic and humiliating moment
1753
01:19:49,791 --> 01:19:53,928
they could choose to take me down...
1754
01:19:54,012 --> 01:19:56,297
at my own niece's wedding.
1755
01:19:56,431 --> 01:19:58,299
♪ Hava neranena venis'mecha ♪
1756
01:19:58,383 --> 01:20:01,719
♪ uru, uru, uru achim ♪
1757
01:20:01,803 --> 01:20:03,387
♪ uru achim belev same'ach ♪
1758
01:20:03,471 --> 01:20:04,938
♪ uru achim belev same'ach ♪
1759
01:20:05,023 --> 01:20:06,690
♪ uru achim belev same'ach ♪
1760
01:20:06,808 --> 01:20:08,475
♪ uru achim belev same'ach ♪
1761
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:10,611
♪ uru achim ♪
1762
01:20:10,695 --> 01:20:12,146
Mr. Madoff?
1763
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:14,231
- Mr. Madoff.
- Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
1764
01:20:14,316 --> 01:20:15,983
- David Green.
- Yeah.
1765
01:20:16,067 --> 01:20:18,819
The SEC lawyer.
1766
01:20:18,953 --> 01:20:20,653
So, how's life?
1767
01:21:22,562 --> 01:21:26,798
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