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Martina Navratilova - possibly the
greatest tennis player of all time.

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ALL SING

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Together, we revisited her hometown.

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Growing up in a communist country,
you, kind of, did whatever it took.

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Her earliest years are from an era
that no longer exists.

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Come on!

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In her youth, she was feisty.

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Defecting to America -
within four years, the world's best.

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She transformed herself and there
was a time no-one could beat her.

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Game, set and match,
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AND MASKELL:
And the dream has come true.

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A pioneer, an activist, an icon,

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but perhaps SHE has the best way
of describing herself.

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December 2014, New York City.

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In a life of many fresh starts,

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this is another.

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The calm before the storm.

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Mary's got the rings, right?

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I have them.

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SHE SIGHS

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She's a serve-volleyer, man.

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She just serve-volleys.
She knows herself.

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"Don't worry about the consequences.

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"Worry about that later."

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She's very well read.

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She has an incredible memory.

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She's good at maths,
she's good at languages.

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She's good at just about anything.

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what she tweets out, what she reads,

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who she advocates for.

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She's getting married
and I'm single.

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Go figure.

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SHE LAUGHS

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This is a friend of mine, Karen.

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Jeannie Ash.
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You must have met.

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At the age of 59,

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Miss Navratilova is about
to become Mrs Navratilova.

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It's her wedding day.

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She's marrying Julia Lemigova -

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a businesswoman, a former Miss USSR,

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I start thinking
in three languages and it's...

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It just sabotages me.

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You are an extraordinary
couple together -

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a radiant couple, may I add?

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Martina, thank you.

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For so many years - and I may add,
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you stood up and you spoke up,

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and we are
eternally grateful for that.

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Thank you.

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'She's been a great fighter
for people who are gay'

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and she's helped to crusade
for people... People's rights.

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especially when you're involved
in sport and music and whatever.

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Julia, I promise to love you,

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to cherish you,
in sickness and in health.

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No matter what, I will be there
for you and for our family.

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media another member of our family.

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LAUGHTER

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I can just imagine how many girls
growing up, knowing they were gay,

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must have thought,
"Thank God for her."

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What an incredible example.

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(..I thee wed.)

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By the powers vested in me
by the State of New York,

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I pronounce you married.

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You may embrace.

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JULIA CHUCKLES

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APPLAUSE

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CHEERING

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This is a wedding day
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Same-sex marriages
can take place in New York,

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but not everywhere in America.

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I got you. I got you.

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We wanted to do it
before the end of the year.

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Didn't want to wait,
but it wasn't legal in Florida,

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and it just made sense
logistically, emotionally.

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Julia, same thing for her -

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she had some special times
in New York City.

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It just made sense.

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She came up to me and said,
"Hello, I'm Martina."

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LAUGHTER

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And that was the beginning...

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of a beautiful friendship!

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Thank you to be
such a wonderful parent

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to my girls - and your girls now -

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and I love you so much.

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And this is the most special day
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APPLAUSE

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'Cos we've been together
for such a long time,

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'but I thought the kids felt more
secure within the relationship

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'that it's validated and equal.'

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For me,
I felt so much more secure,

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with my family any more,

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you cannot tell me I'm less than -
and it was huge.

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That impact was bigger
than I realised it would be.

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So, here we are, celebrating being
full-fledged members of society.

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a big difference for girls.

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To all those people that might have
a problem with same-sex marriage,

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I say look at our family.

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And I feel like most of my life
is right in this room,

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one way or the other. I just wish...

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I wish my parents
were here to see this,

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but I know they're watching
and so now we have a new family,

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so, thanks, everybody.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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'She's found her permanent
doubles partner in life -

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'as I'm sure is endlessly said'

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at every tennis player's wedding!

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But not mixed doubles, in her case.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Goodbye. Bye! Bye.

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All without a hitch, so to speak.

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We got hitched without a hitch!

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Mrs Navratilova.

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I can't believe it.

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So now Mom is a Mrs,

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You call me Martina.

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Martina was born in Czechoslovakia -

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a country now split into Slovakia,
and here, the Czech Republic.

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And it's to Prague
that I've come, to find out more.

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We're going back in time, to an age
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to days long before
I got to know her on tour.

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APPLAUSE

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Martina's parents divorced
when she was three.

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Her mother left Prague
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and they moved to a village
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Revnice.

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Martina, this is home, but this
is the centre of the village.

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Yes. This used to be cobblestoned,
so riding a bicycle was, you know,

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a bit of a precarious proposition.

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The pub was there.

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but now there's extra stores,
and some changed.

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And the famous dentist. That's the
window where he used to torture me.

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There was bad energy,

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because the dentist always
used to give me a hard time.

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I'm like, "I don't like candy.

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"I don't eat candy.
I don't chew gum."

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I wasn't doing
any of the bad things.

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And I still had bad teeth.

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On the tennis courts,
it's somebody else.

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Always, Father said, "Oh, you must
do things, don't lay on the sofa."

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She doesn't like to run. Imagine!

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When she stops playing
and at home, she is different.

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Sensitive, playful.

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That balance is still there,
you see.

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Not...

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Not fall in.

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But usually
there was no water in there.

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Ooh! There we go.
Somebody turned the fountain on.

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this was a childhood spent

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in post-Second World War
Czechoslovakia.

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Europe behind the Iron Curtain.

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Growing up in a communist country,

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you just, kind of,
did whatever it took.

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joke and you would go to jail.

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But, you know, the childhood,
up to when I left, at 18,

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I had a fantastic life here.

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In the summer, we swam in the river.

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In the winter, we skated on it.

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You know, climb people's fences and
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THEY LAUGH

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But you really couldn't buy fruit.
They were very expensive.

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They were more expensive per pound
or per kilo than the best meat.

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She was just
a little, bouncy, happy child,

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physical capabilities.

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I remember, I think
we went to the local river

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and suddenly this little girl
took a little pebble

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and she threw it as far
as we could and we said,

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"Wow. I mean,
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My uncle, who was
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he said, "Yeah,
she's an absolutely amazing kid.

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"I have never seen one like that."

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And I think they were
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He was saying, "She's going
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He really believed in her.

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My mum was a great athlete.

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I mean, she could have done
anything she wanted to.

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And she played volleyball,
she ran track, she was very fast.

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But she encouraged it in me,
and then, I'm like,

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"OK, world, here I come!"
And I was, like, ten.

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It's a lovely setting.

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And Karlstejn, which is a famous
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a big tourist attraction.

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That's King Charles.

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He built the castle
for his mistress.

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Oh, really?! Those were the days.

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THEY LAUGH

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on a real court.

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Then, this one was the first time
I put my feet together on the serve.

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I was right here. Our clubhouse
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I kissed my first boyfriend -
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In the clubhouse,
in the locker room.

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Whatever the attractions,

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it was here Martina first began
entering the record books.

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This is when I won
the Czech Championships

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I won the Junior Championship,
growing up.

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And even then, you're on tiptoes
trying to be taller.

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Yeah, I was just so short.

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And this was the women's part.

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Right. It still is women.

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So this is where I was snogging
with my boyfriend, right here.

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Right here.

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SUE LAUGHS

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And still the original locker doors.
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That's my sister.

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Oh! That's my sister's locker, yeah.
I was in the corner there.

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Do you come back here much?

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I come two, three times a year,
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and every time I come back
I hang out, yeah.

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By the time she was 14,

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Martina was too good
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and so began her travels in tennis.

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First stop, not so very far away -

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Here she met
the Czech star of the day,

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the 1973 Wimbledon champion,
Jan Codes.

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As the number one in Czech,

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there was many people around here,
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watching my practice, and so on.

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come to me and says,

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"Hey, Jan, Martina is going to
play on court for practice -

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"I like that you look at
how she's playing." And I said,

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"Mirek, she shouldn't
come to the net that often.

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prepare the approach much better."

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And he said, "Don't worry about it.

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"I think it's very good
that she comes to the net,

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"because she will have something
what the other girls never have.

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"Every girl can play
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"but if she learn
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"she's going to be extraordinary."

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And later it become true!

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I would hit for an hour

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and then we'd take the tram
back to the train station

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I could, literally, hear the train
coming and I'd start running

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and I could still catch it.

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Going back and forth by tram,

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train, and on the back
of the family motorbike,

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these were days of innocence
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August, 1968. The Soviet
response to the reform programme

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of Alexander Dubcek's government.

266
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Do you regard your country
as having been invaded this morning?

267
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It was an invasion, yes.

268
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Where do you think Mr Dubcek is?

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He's still in office.

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The Prague Spring was over.

271
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There was a picture in there
with the girl that I was with

272
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when the Russian tanks came.

273
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I was in Pilsen,
playing a junior tournament.

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Friday we were supposed
to go play tennis.

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And Friday morning,
her father called us and said -

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at eight in the morning - he says,
"Don't go outside, there's tanks."

278
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So, of course, we went outside,

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everywhere, the roads were torn up,

280
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there was tanks everywhere,
scouring the countryside.

281
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The Russians move around
like strangers from another world,

282
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patrolling the streets
by day and night

283
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even deeper into Czechoslovak soil.

284
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The Czechoslovaks watch
their expansion grimly

285
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and react with the only workable
attitude in this unreal situation.

286
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An attitude of silent defiance.

287
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There was just an amazing sadness
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288
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because, under Dubcek,
we were feeling that, you know,

289
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we might...not have capitalism,

290
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but not communism, either -

291
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just kind of...we could breathe,

292
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we could travel, we could
start your own business.

293
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more freedoms - personal freedoms.

294
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And that was quashed.

295
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The change was coming from the top,
but they didn't like it,

296
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so they sent
600,000 soldiers, with tanks.

297
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The army was told
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298
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because we knew they had no chance.

299
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I think we can relate to one another
because of the past that we had.

300
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In my case, growing up
in a war-torn country,

301
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people would stand in line to get
a piece of bread or just, you know,

302
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303
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they would live on it for weeks,

304
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so it's not kind of experience that
you wish for anybody to go through,

305
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but I'm sure that
Martina would agree

306
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that those experiences
have helped us to get tougher

307
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308
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It's hard, you know,
to understand what it was like,

309
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coming from a communist country,
of how difficult it is to get out.

310
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Well, that was the tricky bit.

311
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Yeah. Again, if I didn't
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312
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I wouldn't have gotten the visa
to get out of the country, so you...

313
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Was that added motivation, in a way?

314
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Yes, absolutely.

315
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I knew this was a way out,
for me, of the country.

316
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It might be thought
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to be born in a totalitarian state.

318
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But where she was born
and how she was born

319
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and her sexual identity

320
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gave her some of this
extraordinary internal energy

321
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to fight, fight, fight.

322
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<font color="
that away from her -

323
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if exactly the same
genetic package that is Martina

324
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had been born 30 years later

325
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and grown up
after the Velvet Revolution

326
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in what would then be
the Czech Republic -

327
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<font color="
in her tennis game?

328
00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:54,200
What really helped the travel
plans - Martina's escape plans -

329
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was being national champion
at the age of 17

330
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and leading Czechoslovakia
to victory in the Federation Cup.

331
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the international team event,

332
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you couldn't stay put
behind the Iron Curtain.

333
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You had to travel,

334
00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,840
and Martina found herself travelling
back and forth to America.

335
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It just felt so luxurious

336
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and easy and free.

337
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<font color="
was very much craved here.

338
00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:27,640
And we would listen to ABBA
and Diana Ross and Neil Diamond,

339
00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,080
Elton John, of course.

340
00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:30,960
So, you brought a bit of that back.

341
00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,480
And brought tapes, cassettes.

342
00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,360
She goes, "I want to be number one
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343
00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,000
"I can become number one in
the world is if I live over here,

344
00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,040
"train over here
and have the freedom

345
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"to train the way that I want to

346
00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,520
"and make the choices
that I want to."

347
00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,200
<font color="

348
00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,720
and there was a picture
of the Empire State Building,

349
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and I was telling my roommate,

350
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"I'm going there next year.

351
00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,680
"I'm going to be in New York."

352
00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,240
So, I was the bee's knees,

353
00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,320
cos I was going to get out of
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354
00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,360
It was something special
in our country -

355
00:17:04,360 --> 00:17:06,120
communist country -

356
00:17:06,120 --> 00:17:09,000
it was like to travel
to the moon now.

357
00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,040


358
00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,240

singing falsetto 'bout

359
00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,200
<font color="
everywhere and...

360
00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,280
Well, I think it was
a culture shock for her

361
00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:21,840
when she came over to America,

362
00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,760
and she was like
a kid in a candy store.

363
00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,240


364
00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,960


365
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366
00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:37,080
and you could tell right away she
was going to be, like, number one,

367
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if she put her mind to it.

368
00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:39,960
At the beginning,

369
00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,800
when she first got to America,

370
00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,640
all she did was eat and have fun

371
00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,600
and tried to be more American
<font color="

372
00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,960
She was eating pancakes
and hamburgers

373
00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,000
and her diet was a bit off.

374
00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:55,200
But she had NO luxuries in Prague,
Czechoslovakia,

375
00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,160
and she went wild for a little bit.

376
00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,080


377
00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,200


378
00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,200
<font color="
it was well documented.

379
00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,040
You put on quite a few pounds?

380
00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,560
I put on so much weight
the first two weeks,

381
00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,680
I had to buy shorts in Dallas.

382
00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,080
The second week on tour,
I had to buy me a new pair of shorts

383
00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,520
<font color="
into my normal clothes.

384
00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,760
So when Olga Morozova saw me
the third tournament, she...

385
00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,920
First she didn't say anything.
She just went...

386
00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,680
This is what she did to me,
instead of saying hello -

387
00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,080
<font color="

388
00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,000
Great. I thought I just looked
more feminine, you know?

389
00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,240
Because all my muscles
were disappearing.

390
00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,720
I had little female curves

391
00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,000
and, you know,
I'd have two hamburgers for lunch

392
00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,000
<font color="

393
00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,440
Breakfast, I would have
eggs AND bacon AND pancakes

394
00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:48,760
AND cereal.

395
00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,200
I never had cereal growing up,

396
00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,200
never had pancakes growing up,
so I just got heavy.

397
00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,160
I put on 20 pounds in two weeks.

398
00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,120
That's hard to do
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399
00:18:58,120 --> 00:18:59,480
Living the good life

400
00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,880
was hardly going to please
the regime back home.

401
00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,840
To compete in the major tournaments

402
00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,120
in the summer of 1975,
she'd need a new visa.

403
00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,320
Her father come to me and says,
"Jan, you know,

404
00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:18,360
<font color="
Martina to go to the US Open.

405
00:19:18,360 --> 00:19:20,880
"Could you help?"

406
00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,640
I went to the Minister of Sports,
you know, and I said,

407
00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,840
"You cannot do this.

408
00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,560
"And if you stop her for now, what
is going to happen in the future?"

409
00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,600
<font color="
to go play the Italian -

410
00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,560
"Oh, no, we're not
going to give you the visas,

411
00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,200
"because you're too Americanised."

412
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,640
And then, I thought I cannot be
in this limbo forever.

413
00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,080
And so, that's why I left. So...

414
00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,200
<font color="
Or was it...? My dad.

415
00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,000
My dad knew that
I was probably going to stay

416
00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,000
and he said, "Don't tell Mum."

417
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,360
Wow. "If you go, don't come back."

418
00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:56,120
But did he encourage you
<font color="

419
00:19:56,120 --> 00:19:58,840
Oh, he just said, you know,

420
00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,440
"That's the only choice you have,
if you really want to play."

421
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,280
So, I didn't tell Mum.

422
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,160
She was calling from the United
States and I told her on the phone,

423
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,760
"Don't come back. Even if they will
<font color="

424
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,880
Because they would put her
to prison, of course.

425
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,960
She was already
a famous tennis player

426
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:25,440
and those who tried to defect,
or defected, they always got prison.

427
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,200
That was a bold, brave move.

428
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:28,800
<font color="
I could have done that.

429
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,280
I know I couldn't have done that -

430
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:34,280
to be distanced from my family,
and she...

431
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,520
I remember asking her,
"What about your family?"

432
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,720
She goes, "I don't know
when I'll ever see them."

433
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,280
<font color="
in the semis at the US Open,

434
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:43,560
the next day I went to

435
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,720
the Immigration
and Naturalization Service,

436
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,480
and the next morning
it was in the paper already.

437
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:49,920
They told me not to say anything,

438
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,080
but the next morning
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439
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,280
that a famous
tennis player defected.

440
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,040
In the communist country,
when somebody left the country,

441
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,960
or somebody of your family

442
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,880
was politically active
against communists,

443
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,360
so the rest of the family
<font color="

444
00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:07,360
Kids couldn't go to school,

445
00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:09,400
or people lost their jobs,

446
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,720
they lost their house,

447
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,880
so people didn't talk to us.

448
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,920
They didn't want to be friends with
us any more because Martina was bad,

449
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,280
like they wrote very badly
<font color="

450
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,320
that she left the country and...

451
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:24,880
I left the country,

452
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,600
because I had some problems
with the director of the school,

453
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,120
who actually told me
that she is ashamed for the nation,

454
00:21:32,120 --> 00:21:34,520
that there is no place for me
<font color="

455
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,320
and show me the door and say,
"There you go."

456
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,360
When people ask me,
"What are your regrets?"

457
00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:42,080
I said I regret
that I had to do that.

458
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,440
That I had to leave my family.

459
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,080
I had to leave my,
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460
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,520
and leave everything behind.

461
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,480
It was like she died.

462
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,240
It was so sad, you can't imagine it.

463
00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:00,680
I admire her courage,
because she was number one, OK,

464
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,520
she had money after that,

465
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:07,120
but to be alone,
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466
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,760
I was a little bit scared for her,
because I knew she was immature.

467
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,400
She was 18-year-old kid and she...

468
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,160
I was wondering whether
she'll be able to handle it,

469
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,400
and that was one thing -
she was able to find good people

470
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,120
<font color="

471
00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:27,560
Professional tennis in the 1970s

472
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,320
was in the throes
of a capitalist makeover.

473
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,680
Players were forming
their own tours,

474
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,640
pushing against the old order.

475
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,720
They were pushing themselves

476
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,920
and Martina soon spotted
<font color="

477
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,320
I think when we went down
to the practice courts,

478
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,920
with the likes of Harry Hopman
and the Australians that, you know,

479
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,720
I think Martina recognised that...

480
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,120
why we were winning.

481
00:22:53,120 --> 00:22:55,240
It was because we were fitter.

482
00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,440
<font color="
was getting through the matches,

483
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,000
but as she climbed up the ladder

484
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,800
and got into
the quarterfinals and semifinals

485
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,560
and then winning some matches,

486
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:12,080
that gives you the experience
and the determination to say,

487
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:16,240
<font color="
and I'm here to win."

488
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,480
MUSIC: Popcorn by Hot Butter

489
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,640
Chris Evert was an early friend
and doubles partner.

490
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,480
CHEERING

491
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,600
Together,
they won Wimbledon in 1976.

492
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,680
A Grand Slam title,
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493
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,920
at the French Open the year before.

494
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,440
In singles, the friend was a rival.

495
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,360
The core and the essence
of Martina hasn't changed.

496
00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:45,080
She is calmer, I think.

497
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,960
As she gets older, she bloss...
I think we're both late bloomers.

498
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,280
<font color="

499
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,040
when you're in such an intense,
competitive environment,

500
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,720
it's not conducive to growing,
necessarily, as a person.

501
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,480
Martina's breakthrough moment

502
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,560
came in the Wimbledon final of 1978.

503
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,880
She would become champion
<font color="

504
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,480
for the first time.

505
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,880
I'd turned 16
during that championship

506
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,520
and I just remember the joy

507
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,720
of her winning her first major.

508
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,840
Who knew that it would be
the first of 18?

509
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,760
I was happy that, even though
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510
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,640
that I stayed
to watch her defeat Chrissy,

511
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,080
live and in person,

512
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,680
because in such an early part
of MY playing career,

513
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,000
it was important to see
that kind of match in person.

514
00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:43,040
Yeah!

515
00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:43,040
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516
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,760
That's it. She's won it.

517
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,240
If we wanted to see her on the TV,

518
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,480
we had to go to Pilsen,
close to the border to the West,

519
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,520
and we had some friends
and they showed German TV.

520
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,560
So we could see her
playing on the TV.

521
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,400
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522
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,440
They would show
until I started winning

523
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,880
and then they wouldn't show it.

524
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,800
That's how people knew
I was in the finals -

525
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,320
when they didn't show the final.

526
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,000
When I lost early,
then they showed the final.

527
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,960
<font color="
about the tournament

528
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,080
and then, kind of,
ignore my half of the draw.

529
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,840
And when I got to the finals,
they stopped talking about it.

530
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,480
That's how people
knew I was winning,

531
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,080
when there was nothing in the paper.

532
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,320
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533
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,360
and we were very nervous,
it was terrible.

534
00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:28,560
Mamma had to take a cognac.

535
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,480
Father, a little brandy.

536
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,880
You know. And after a match, "Hah!"

537
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,560
Mrs Jana Navratilova
hadn't seen her daughter

538
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,280
since she defected
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539
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,600
But today, she was able
to watch her daughter

540
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,240
as she played her opening match
on the Centre Court,

541
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,440
in defence of the title
she won last year.

542
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,240
Permission was finally granted,

543
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,240
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544
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,240
the Prime Minister
of Czechoslovakia.

545
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,480
It's like long-lost daughter
or son coming from war, almost.

546
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,760
At some point, we didn't even know

547
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,200
if we would ever
see each other again,

548
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,040
<font color="
so quickly, that we really didn't...

549
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,560
Neither one of us
was really hoping to get it done,

550
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,520
but when it finally happened,
it was just very thrilling,

551
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,400
you know,
you can't really describe it.

552
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,440
<font color="
you last saw her in the flesh.

553
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,320
Four and a half.
How has she changed?

554
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,120
She is now very... Skinny. ..skinny.

555
00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:26,120
And for me, is very, very beautiful.

556
00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:29,600
Mrs Navratilova,
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557
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,080
Having eaten on arrival in America,

558
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,920
Martina was now
burning up the calories.

559
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,240
This was a new regime

560
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,640
of mental strength and fitness.

561
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,240
By the late '70s, early '80s,

562
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,200
we were ready to talk about
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563
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,680
and weights and all that -
and with her physique,

564
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:52,760
she was just perfect
to really push the game forward.

565
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,320
Just getting more information
about nutrition

566
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,120
and how to cross-train more,
Martina was amazing.

567
00:26:58,120 --> 00:27:00,480
<font color="
want to lift weights

568
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:01,760
at least once, to maintain.

569
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,080


570
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,360
This was taking the women's game

571
00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:10,000
into a new dimension -
a new domination.

572
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,200
Even amongst the best
sportsmen and women,

573
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,640
<font color="
who can come back year after year

574
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,360
to take the top prizes
again and again.

575
00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:21,240
I guess I started
the fitness craze, you know,

576
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,120
in that I started working out
off the court.

577
00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:26,040
I didn't just do
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578
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,400
I did other sports.

579
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,720
And so, I guess
I was the pioneer in that,

580
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,280
while everything got more
technical and technological.

581
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,840


582
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,960
By the mid-1980s,
she was totally dominant...

583
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,760
<font color="
Grand Slam singles titles.

584
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,760
Do you have any advice to young
people watching Record Breakers,

585
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,000
who would like to be
the best in the world?

586
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,880
First of all, do your best.

587
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,000
That's number...
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588
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,400
You know, you can't slouch off

589
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,440
and expect for things
to fall into your lap -

590
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,640
you have to give it
your best effort.

591
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,040
I agree with her there.

592
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,800
She's right on the money.
And, boy, was she fit!

593
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,920
<font color="
the transition generation,

594
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,600
from amateur to
professional tennis - we had both.

595
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,760
And then, the second generation
is your Chris and Martina and Sue.

596
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,200
The first generation was so lucky
to have the second generation.

597
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,840
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598
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,440
Martina and Chris had the greatest
rivalry in the sport, ever.

599
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,920
If they had been men,
they would talk about it constantly.

600
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,240
Martina and Chris
were that exceptional.

601
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,280
At their peak, they met
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602
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,640
Former doubles partners,

603
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,080
locked into an individual rivalry

604
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,120
that spanned more than a decade.

605
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,040
I appreciated her for what
she did for women's tennis

606
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,320
and what she did for my game,

607
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,800
which was to lift the level -

608
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,800
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I think, to have as a rival.

609
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,840
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

610
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,960
We were lucky we had
those two players.

611
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,520
They made a huge difference.

612
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,720
If we didn't have them, I don't know
if we still would have a WTA tour.

613
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,040
<font color="
to be friends and then they aren't,

614
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,440
because Chris cannot be friends
when you're competing.

615
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,960
She told me that
when I was a player.

616
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,120
She said,
"Billie, I can't be your friend.

617
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,320
"Can we wait until
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618
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,600
That's it. She's won it. Game,
set and match, Miss Navratilova.

619
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,240
1979,
four years after her defection,

620
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,520
she was able to win Wimbledon
in front of her mother.

621
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,640
Sometimes, it seemed SHE
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622
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:46,160
I was asked somewhere to list
my heroes and I included Martina.

623
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,480
And one of the reasons was simply

624
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,640
the joy and excitement
she gave me in tennis -

625
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,120
a new kind of thrill -

626
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,320
and also knowing that
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627
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,080
didn't want her to win.

628
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,680
APPLAUSE

629
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,200
Of course, when you're playing
against a crowd favourite

630
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,720
that has the majority
of the support in the stadium,

631
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,000
you have to accept that
as a reality and a fact.

632
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,040
<font color="

633
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:20,720
those are the opportunities for you
to grow your character strengths.

634
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:27,320
I'm sure that those kind of
experiences also made her tougher.

635
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,280
That's it.

636
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,480
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

637
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,280
You know, I think
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638
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,720
is that specific point that
we were so different, you know?

639
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,800
And even at a young age,
I was American,

640
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,480
she was from a communist country.

641
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,960
Quiet, please, ladies and gentlemen.

642
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,720
Very emotional on the court
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643
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,040
and she was a serve-volleyer,
aggressive,

644
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,720
and I was a baseliner.

645
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,560
And so she brought
her set of fans to the matches

646
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,800
and I brought
my set of fans to the matches

647
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,480
and, you know, that's why
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648
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,000
because of the contrast.

649
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,400
It's out, that's it.

650
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,080
Game, set and championship,
Miss Navratilova.

651
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,760
We were very opposite, but deep down

652
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,760
there is a sense of compassion
when the other one lost.

653
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,760
<font color="
we could just shake off

654
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,120
any sort of competitiveness,
jealousy,

655
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,920
negative feeling that we had,

656
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,360
and we could just totally appreciate
each other as just human beings,

657
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,760
not only as tennis players.

658
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,600
<font color="
at 31 years old,

659
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,320
you're still winning these types
of awards. I think it's great.

660
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,560
Are you going to retire soon
or let us have a chance?

661
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,160
Well, first you have to retire.

662
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,600
You're older than I am,
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663
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:52,720
At least a year.

664
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,400
They always got along better
than people think.

665
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,160
Roller-coaster - but, look now,
they're great friends.

666
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,320
Since you haven't won
too many awards this year,

667
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,120
<font color="

668
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,280
in the world -
Wimbledon and the US Open -

669
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,480
I'd like to present
this BBC Television

670
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,920
Overseas Sports Personality Award
to you.

671
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,720
I think it's very merited.

672
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,760
From one personality to another,
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673
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,280
We went back to Czechoslovakia
when she was an American citizen,

674
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,200
and I witnessed that whole scene,
which was incredible.

675
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,640
The media were there in force for

676
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,280
a homecoming that was being
stoically ignored by the Czech
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677
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,160
Some journalists carried photographs

678
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,360
to make sure they'd recognise
the world's number one tennis player

679
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,000
when she appeared
from the customs hall.

680
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,000
It was the first time that
Navratilova had seen her family

681
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,280
<font color="

682
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,160
But what she might have hoped
would be a touching moment

683
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,440
became a scramble to force her way
through the arrivals lounge

684
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,520
at Prague Airport.

685
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:45,800
She was a non-person,

686
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,520
meaning the American team
led by Chris Evert,

687
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,160
<font color="

688
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,920
but there's no mention
of Martina at all

689
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,280
in any sort of newspaper, etc.

690
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,800
We go out and the American team
is introduced

691
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,720
and I looked in the corner
of my eye over at the balcony,

692
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,320
<font color="

693
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:03,720
the government officials -

694
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,680
and they just sat in their chair
and didn't respond -

695
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,440
didn't clap, didn't stand up.

696
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,320
They just were, you know, poker
face and just looking at the scene.

697
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,280
The fans LOVE her.

698
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,320
<font color="

699
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,960
then Jana Novotna
and Hana Mandlikova

700
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,200
and, you know, Helena Sukova,

701
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,200
who were the Czechoslovakian team.

702
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,960
It was a delightful surprise,

703
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,240
let's put it that way,

704
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,640
for everybody who went over there
<font color="

705
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:33,680
The public embrace of Martina
returning back to her homeland,

706
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,000
returning as one of the great
champions of the sport of tennis -

707
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,560
seeing the public embrace
was incredible.

708
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,800
Welcomed - back home and in America,

709
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,400
<font color="
defected to join her.

710
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,640
Finally, acceptance of her

711
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,080
and acceptance BY her
of her own feelings.

712
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,600
I really didn't figure it out

713
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,120
until I had my first relationship
with a woman.

714
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,800
When it did happen, I'm like,
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715
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,960
You know, because
I've had these crushes,

716
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,200
but I didn't recognise them

717
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,480
as anything but just crushes
on adults, you know?

718
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,440
I had crushes on men, as well.

719
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,800
But they were definitely
stronger on women.

720
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,320
<font color="

721
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,480
"We think that you're living
as a man and a woman" -

722
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,800
with this woman that I was with,
and I always said, if they ask me,

723
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,120
I will tell them,
so that's exactly what happened.

724
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,600
You know, five years
<font color="

725
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,520
they asked, and I said, yes,

726
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,640
and then all hell,
kind of, broke loose, but...

727
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,160
You know, Dad said some things
that he wished that he hadn't said,

728
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,240
but he didn't know.

729
00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:32,840
Again, people really
<font color="

730
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,840
We never stopped talking or
anything, but there was a tension,

731
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,640
and then my dad,
he educated himself,

732
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,080
he read some books, and he says,

733
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,680
"You know, I realise now it had
nothing to do with you or me.

734
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,600
<font color="
who you are and it's OK.

735
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,040
"I just want you to be happy."

736
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,560
And that's all you want from your
parents - and this is 30 years ago.

737
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,720
You talk about
your family coming over.

738
00:34:51,720 --> 00:34:53,560
Did you buy them a separate house,

739
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,600
<font color="
to protect them from finding out?

740
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,120
Well, no.

741
00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,640
I needed the space on my own,

742
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,640
even if I had been
married with a man,

743
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,280
I still would have wanted
that separate house, you know.

744
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,480
I'm an adult now and, you know,
<font color="

745
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,920
I mean, they live,
like, three houses down.

746
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,960
So, at the end, it was all
only about me being happy,

747
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,520
and - does the person I'm with
treat me well?

748
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,400
But her private life
<font color="

749
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,520
There were televised lawsuits.

750
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,440
Breaking up was hard enough,

751
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,600
but this was suffering
in the glare of exposure.

752
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,520
The emotional toll was obvious,

753
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,600
the financial cost
revealed for all to see.

754
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,240
<font color="

755
00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:37,520
the costs of being openly gay.

756
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,320
I knew it would cost me
on many levels.

757
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,080
What I didn't realise is how much it
would cost me in fan support.

758
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,040
That was a very negative thing,

759
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,800
from the fans' standpoint, I mean.

760
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,960
<font color="
Yes, crowd reaction.

761
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,760
Letters, crowd reaction,
response to when I was...

762
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,480
When I would come on the court.

763
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,560
When I started winning,
it really... Being gay and winning,

764
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,280
I think it was too threatening,
<font color="

765
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,440
It was OK to be gay
as long as I was losing,

766
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,160
but when I started dominating,

767
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,240
somehow I had
an "unfair advantage".

768
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:12,480
I don't know how!

769
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,280
Financially,
it would have cost you a lot.

770
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,200
<font color="
but I didn't get any new deals,

771
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,600
let's put it that way.

772
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,480
I had my shoes, rackets
and clothing contracts always

773
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,600
and then, when I started winning,
the money was better.

774
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,600
But did I ever get paid as much
<font color="

775
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,120
I doubt it. And I certainly
didn't get any outside deals

776
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,320
for, you know, Wheaties.

777
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,400
All right, here we go,
it's nice and quiet.

778
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,880
Let's roll sound, roll camera,

779
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,440
set and action.

780
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,960
<font color="
yourself more than anyone else.

781
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,960
And cut. That was beautiful.
All right. I'm cutting there.

782
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,840
Was it breathy enough? That was
breathy enough, that was good.

783
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,560
'The good thing for Martina,
<font color="

784
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,680
is she was able to keep playing.

785
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,600
Here we go. We are set.

786
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,480
By doing that, the LGBT community

787
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,600
had a champion
who was still playing,

788
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:04,680
which was thrilled.

789
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,240
You know, she's one of our -
<font color="

790
00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:10,000
It comes from her passion.
As a player, she was passionate

791
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,160
and she still is,
and that comes from within.

792
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,160
I mean, two people I can think of
are Billie Jean and Martina

793
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:16,440
that have that passion.

794
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,280
<font color="

795
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,480
more passionate - because
of a few humanitarian things,

796
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:22,760
as well as tennis.

797
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,000
She voices her opinion,
even if it's controversial,

798
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,440
even if it goes against
the norm or the grain,

799
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,520
<font color="

800
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,920
but I think better to be that way
than never to say anything.

801
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,040
Like me!

802
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,880
Hello. I'm Martina Navratilova.

803
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,560
Former number one in the world.

804
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,960
Come and have a chat with me
about conquering the world.

805
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:50,160
<font color="

806
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,280
I think that was great. That was
perfect. That was it. Yeah? Yeah.

807
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,320
'She's very good company.
She has a very dry sense of humour

808
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,200
'and her eyes hold you.

809
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,120
'I sat next to her at Wimbledon
<font color="

810
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,480
she very kindly invited me
to stand in for her wife,

811
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,080
so I was her temporary wife.

812
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,200
She's the kind of person -
a bit like Bob Dylan -

813
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,520
that you just don't want
to get in their bad books.

814
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,120
<font color="
a look of, "Who are you?"

815
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,080
She's got real presence.

816
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,040
I think she loves the sport

817
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,800
because, even a couple of years ago,

818
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:26,080
I saw her on the tournaments
and practising a lot.

819
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,240
I think that's been
<font color="

820
00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:32,000
is the great sport of tennis,

821
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,080
but she certainly
is ageing gracefully

822
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,160
and, you know, now to see her

823
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,880
in a marriage partnership
with Julia,

824
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,880
it's just another amazing stage
of this incredible woman.

825
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,520
<font color="

826
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,440
I guess warm people
attract warm people.

827
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:52,840
Well, she's Russian.

828
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,880
Who knew that a Czech and a Russian
would get along this well?

829
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,000
It didn't go so well
back in the '60s, but here we are,

830
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,160
and for many reasons,
<font color="

831
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,800
the impossibility of even thinking
that you will get married,

832
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,880
you know, growing up as a gay woman.

833
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,120
And Julia, we meet and she has kids

834
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,680
and we just become a family,

835
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,840
and everybody's happy
that we're happy, so it's great.

836
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,840
<font color="

837
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:21,080
behind one of the most successful
partnerships in professional tennis.

838
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,160
I always said, while we played,

839
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,680
one of the reasons
why our partnership lasted so long

840
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,040
is we actually did not spend
that much time together

841
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,480
<font color="

842
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:34,840
So when we were together,

843
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,960
it was really pretty fresh and fun.

844
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,600
From July 1983 to June 1985,

845
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,200
Martina and Pam
won every Grand Slam doubles.

846
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,920
In total, they were
undefeated in 109 matches.

847
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,160
<font color="

848
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,440
I believe, in life -
in their business life,

849
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,280
in their personal life -
she was my lucky break.

850
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,320
There were others,
but mostly WITH Pam,

851
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,600
Martina won more doubles titles
than singles.

852
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:10,840
<font color="

853
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,840
"You're going to be
the greatest player ever."

854
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,960
I always thought she was the best
singles, doubles and mixed player

855
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,760
ever to have lived,
up to this time.

856
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,760
I think Serena might do better,

857
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,720
<font color="
to play doubles and mixed,

858
00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:25,800
like our generations.

859
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,680
Well, it's tough, no, because in
terms of timings and the schedule,

860
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,480
it's difficult
to play mixed and doubles,

861
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,880
because to adjust
<font color="

862
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,600
if you have to compete
in three different tournaments, no,

863
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,480
so it's amazing
all the things that she did

864
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,840
and she is one of
the most important stars

865
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,320
in the world of tennis
for a long time.

866
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,760
<font color="

867
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,800
the best singles, doubles and
mixed player to have ever lived.

868
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,840
She's such
an all-around great athlete.

869
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,360
This year's Lifetime Achievement
winner is Martina Navratilova.

870
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:04,680
In 2003, she equalled Billie Jean
<font color="

871
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,080
20.

872
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,880
Each one has its own story.

873
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,080
When I was playing with Martina
at Wimbledon in 2003 in the summer,

874
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,000
and as I jumped up for a smash,
the lights went out.

875
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,160
But it wasn't really
the lights went out,

876
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,200
<font color="
in broad daylight,

877
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,320
but it was I lost my vision.

878
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,720
And I had the presence of mind

879
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:24,000
to cover my head with my hands
to protect myself,

880
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,880
and I came down
like a ton of bricks.

881
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,160
And when Martina came to me
<font color="

882
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,440
she realised
I was burning up with fever.

883
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,520
Well, I did not want to tell her
that I was playing with 104.3 fever,

884
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:35,720
I did not want to tell her

885
00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:38,040
that I had this
thumping headache for 48 hours

886
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,920
<font color="

887
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,240
because I knew
she wouldn't let me play.

888
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:44,920
So, I persevered through it
and we won Wimbledon.

889
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,200
But the next morning,

890
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,480
I went back to Florida and I was
diagnosed with a tumour in my head

891
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,120
<font color="
it wasn't something permanent.

892
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,520
I think you'll be surprised

893
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,680
to see the person
walking out here with the trophy.

894
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,880
You don't know he's here,

895
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,880
but he wanted to be
a part of your celebration -

896
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,280
<font color="
Leander Paes. Are you kidding?!

897
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,480
APPLAUSE

898
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,360
'I'm very emotional about Martina.'

899
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,760
'Martina is just someone

900
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,440
'that's not
just a champion of tennis,

901
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,520
'but she's a champion of life.

902
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:20,160
<font color="
my 9pm phone call was always her.'

903
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,000
I just feel that I'm a blessed man

904
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,760
to have Martina
as one of my best friends.

905
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,880
I think you'll be back next year,
won't you?

906
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,880
I'll definitely be here, whether I'm
<font color="

907
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:30,920
Thank you. Thank you.

908
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,360
Well done to Leander Paes
and Martina Navratilova!

909
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,080
She would play on.

910
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,440
Three years after this,
she'd win her last major title -

911
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,840
the mixed doubles at the US Open,

912
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,160
<font color="

913
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,840
Martina - more appreciated
with each passing year,

914
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,600
with each passing tear.

915
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:56,120
At home in America, at home here
on the green grass of Wimbledon,

916
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,880
and in the homeland she so
dramatically left as a teenager.

917
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,840
<font color="

918
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,240
America and, since 2008,

919
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:07,960
the Czech Republic.

920
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,280
So, she can easily relive
her Prague childhood -

921
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,560
every last bit of it.

922
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,040
At least you can trust your dentist.

923
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:17,120
I hope so!

924
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,240
Severely testing family love,

925
00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:24,240
<font color="
her younger sister, Jana.

926
00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:26,280
She's laughing.

927
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,280
She's a sadist.

928
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:29,960
She's really going to enjoy this.

929
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,040
What was I thinking?

930
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,600
WHIRRING

931
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,600
Ah!

932
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,280
JANA LAUGHS
No, no, no, no. That's not funny.

933
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,000
<font color="
eating - she loves to eat.'

934
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,840
She's always very happy when I
cook for her and I always ask her,

935
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,560
"What do you want? What should
I make for you when you come?"

936
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,800
And she says,
"Oh, do you have something sweet?

937
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,760
<font color="
it's a crepe she like.

938
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,560
And then she relax and is happy.

939
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,440
LAUGHTER

940
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,320
We're going to go for lunch now.

941
00:43:58,320 --> 00:43:59,760
Test the teeth out.

942
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,800
See you later. Bye.

943
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:12,000
Her hometown has changed
over the years, but not much.

944
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,840
<font color="
yet, it's home.

945
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,560
And somewhere,
she can share a cake or two

946
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,760
with the girl
she first sat beside in school.

947
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,160
And their family lived in there?
Yeah, they never moved.

948
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:28,880
I mean, that was their house.

949
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,800
<font color="
not moved to the States for a year,

950
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,400
we would still be in that house.

951
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,440
Instead of, you know,
where my sister is now.

952
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:36,960
Was that sad for your parents,

953
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,520
to come back and not
go back into their house? Yeah.

954
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,040
<font color="

955
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,080
because it was not just
a matter of...emotions,

956
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,960
but it was a matter
of inconvenience,

957
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,280
because it was difficult
to find a house

958
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,360
and they wanted
to live in this town.

959
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,000
<font color="

960
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,920
"We found a place",
so I sent him $50,000,

961
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,880
they bought the house
and that was that.

962
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,320
But they were just lucky that
they were able to even get it.

963
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,400
So, this building was...

964
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:05,000
<font color="
this building here. What's Sokol?

965
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:10,280
Sokol, he was the guy that started
these clubs for exercise.

966
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,400
And fitness has always been
a major part of your life.

967
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,040
Raising two kids in America,

968
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,800
<font color="
there's so many...

969
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,480
Yes. Julia was always
very strict with the kids,

970
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,440
you know, very natural,
healthy lifestyle.

971
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,440
TRANSLATION:

972
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,960
Could you hear her chewing?
Yes, I could hear her chewing.

973
00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:37,120
<font color="
bought them chewing gum.

974
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,880
I never buy them chewing gum.
I didn't buy them chewing gum.

975
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:44,400
Do I need to be the police
and check everything you do?

976
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,440
We don't allow you to use...
It was in the candy.

977
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,800
<font color="

978
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,840
In the States
it's a little more difficult,

979
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,560
because there is just
so much junk food out there,

980
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,880
but we prepare their lunches

981
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,520
and they get a soft drink

982
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,280
<font color="

983
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,440
So, we restrict them,
but they like it

984
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,080
because they realise that
it's better for them as well.

985
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,760
Especially the older one, you know -

986
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,600
she's 14 now, so she has
to be careful with her skin,

987
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,400
<font color="
but they're good kids.

988
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,760
They're easy. And they're
at the Chris Evert Academy.

989
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,240
And right now, they're both
at Chris Evert's Academy.

990
00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:21,360
Go figure! How funny is that?

991
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,760
Do you have to get a pass
<font color="

992
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,760
Chris gives me a really good deal.
So, life is funny.

993
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,280
How would you feel if one
of them wanted to play tennis?

994
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,440
I'd love it. I mean, I'm
certainly not pushing them into it,

995
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,960
but if they want it
<font color="

996
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,600
When you think about what
you had to go through as a kid now,

997
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,080
and how lucky, you know, they are

998
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:40,880
in just being able
to go to the Academy.

999
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,000
It's different.

1000
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,280
Well, yeah, life is complicated

1001
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,920
<font color="
in different ways,

1002
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,640
but, yeah, I had a great life here,
you know?

1003
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,440
OK, so I only had
one pair of tennis shoes

1004
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:53,880
and I only had two pairs of pants

1005
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,400
but, you know,
like I said, I was never hungry,

1006
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,200
<font color="

1007
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,120
A breast cancer scare in 2010

1008
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,720
motivated Martina
to campaign and encourage women

1009
00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:08,640
to have regular check-ups.

1010
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,720
Mine was four years in between
and I didn't realise it at the time.

1011
00:47:12,720 --> 00:47:14,320
I just, kind of, put it off.

1012
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:15,840
<font color="

1013
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,240
and I'm like, I'll do it,
you know, next spring,

1014
00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:20,480
and then the next thing
you know, you're in Australia

1015
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:21,920
and you still haven't done it.

1016
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,360
And so, it might have not
turned into anything.

1017
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:29,200
It was DCIS,
<font color="

1018
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,960
It can spread
and it's risky, obviously,

1019
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,600
and it was terrifying.

1020
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,560
Well, when I heard she had cancer,

1021
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,800
it was a tough one for me,
because I lost a sister to cancer,

1022
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,520
I lost my first husband to cancer
<font color="

1023
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,600
So, when it happened,

1024
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,000
we didn't speak about it
all that much.

1025
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,080
I didn't offer to be
that close support

1026
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,440
and I did it, basically,
because, you know,

1027
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,000
I haven't had the most
<font color="

1028
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,640
But she's, sort of, a close...

1029
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:04,960
You know, she's an example
of a close friend that I can say,

1030
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,720
"Hey, I have somebody really
close to me that is positive,

1031
00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:08,880
"has a positive result."

1032
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:13,240
It's life. And it's...

1033
00:48:13,240 --> 00:48:15,960
<font color="
Martina thinks like this.

1034
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,880
She doesn't think it's a pity
for her or something, you know.

1035
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,760
She's going on and doing things,

1036
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,240
so she doesn't think,
"Oh, I am sick."

1037
00:48:25,240 --> 00:48:27,000
I don't think so.

1038
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,400
I knew the diagnosis of the illness,

1039
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,920
<font color="

1040
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,800
and I knew that she will recover,

1041
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,120
so I knew it, so to say.

1042
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,720
So I was happy
when everything was over, yeah.

1043
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:45,080
'It's just in God's hands and
the surgeon, and fate or whatever.'

1044
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,320
You just, kind of, hope and,
<font color="

1045
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:49,600
SHE KNOCKS ON TABLE

1046
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,840
Yeah. And it's an important
lesson that we all...

1047
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,000
That we've all learned
from that. Absolutely.

1048
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,600
You decided you wanted to
talk about it, confront it,

1049
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,520
<font color="

1050
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,400
Well, again, it's like being
in the closet about something.

1051
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,320
So when I first knew what I had,

1052
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,440
and I had to have surgery,
I didn't talk about it -

1053
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,520
I thought,
"I don't want to go public!"

1054
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,240
<font color="
more about what happened to me,

1055
00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:14,600
why I had it, what I had,

1056
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,480
how important it was
to get those yearly check-ups,

1057
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,200
I'm like, "I can't keep this quiet."

1058
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,360
I, kind of, felt that
I had a duty to speak out,

1059
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,160
<font color="
to have that yearly check-up.

1060
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,440
'She's incredibly hard-working.

1061
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,880
'When we were doing one
of our early French Opens,

1062
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,360
'we were fully prepared
to fill in for her

1063
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,400
'whatever she needed, of course.

1064
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,560
<font color="
I'm going to work."'

1065
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,880
She would do her treatment
in the morning

1066
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,520
before coming to the tournament,

1067
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,080
then broadcast the tournament

1068
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,520
and then go out and practise,

1069
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,560
because she was going to play in
<font color="

1070
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:47,800
and won it.

1071
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,480
She has the world's biggest heart

1072
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,480
and she has - ironically -
very little, if any, ego.

1073
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:55,640
It's remarkable.

1074
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,480
She's not a tough gal,
by any stretch.

1075
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,240
She's got a very dry
<font color="

1076
00:49:59,240 --> 00:50:02,520
and she's also fearless
and adventurous.

1077
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,120
So, Julia Lemigova...

1078
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,880
No, it's not happening.

1079
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,160
..please marry me.

1080
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:08,960
Please marry me.

1081
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,840
I don't care how times
you've won on that court,

1082
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,280
<font color="
in effect, live,

1083
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,240
in front of millions of people,

1084
00:50:17,240 --> 00:50:20,280
it is a great reflection
of who Martina is.

1085
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:21,800
Yes. You say yes?

1086
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,120
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

1087
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:28,960


1088
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,360


1089
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,360
<font color="

1090
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,800

to change the weather

1091
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,280


1092
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,040


1093
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,000
When you see her
in action on the court

1094
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,840
and then you see her
in action off the court,

1095
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:48,160
<font color="
and sticking up for people

1096
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,960
and trying to change the world,
it brings a smile to your face.

1097
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,080
I can't tell you
how much that means

1098
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,880
to me and to millions
of other people.

1099
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,240


1100
00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:00,040
<font color="
can't compare eras,

1101
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,640
because if Steffi
was growing up now,

1102
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,200
she would have a different
backhand and different strokes,

1103
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:05,600
I would have different strokes.

1104
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,240
I think that Steffi's slice
would have given everybody...

1105
00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:11,680
<font color="
and I like low-bouncing balls.

1106
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,480
I think the... Who doesn't?

1107
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,640
LAUGHTER

1108
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,680
I thought you liked 'em high!

1109
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,560
Anyway, be that as it may...

1110
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,880
I'm actually playing doubles with
her, which is quite frightening

1111
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,480
<font color="

1112
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,480
and she insists
that I get up to the net,

1113
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,200
so she's terrifying to play with.

1114
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:31,400
You're playing alongside

1115
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,880
probably the greatest female
tennis player of all time

1116
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:38,320
and, you know...it's one thing
<font color="

1117
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,880
but it's another thing having to
perform with that kind of greatness.

1118
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,320
Team Elton John
taking on Team Billie Jean King.

1119
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,040
CHEERING

1120
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,800
The fact that she's still playing
pretty damn good

1121
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,320
<font color="

1122
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,440
is quite remarkable.

1123
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,000
You know, I've had the luck

1124
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,680
to have watched her up close,

1125
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,080
to have seen
her many victories at Wimbledon

1126
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,680
and throughout the world,
and just be astonished

1127
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,200
that the fact she loves
<font color="

1128
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,640
I love people who keep going
and have the passion,

1129
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,360
and I still feel the same -

1130
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,240
I'll be 69 next birthday,
but I have as much enthusiasm now

1131
00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:19,320
as I did when I was 20,

1132
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,640
and I think you could
say the same of Martina.

1133
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,680
<font color="
and talks to ordinary people,

1134
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,440
I think she has
a good effect on them.

1135
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,960


1136
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,800


1137
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,120
From Vegas to Cambridge,

1138
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,800
from bright lights to light blues,

1139
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,840
<font color="
the oldest version of the game...

1140
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:48,840
..real tennis.

1141
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,600
She is about to become

1142
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,520
an Honorary Fellow
of a Cambridge college.

1143
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,960
The college
is called Lucy Cavendish.

1144
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,120
This is very different
<font color="

1145
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,000
as a young tennis player
in Czechoslovakia.

1146
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,520
Game. 2-0.

1147
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,800
She's like an absolute legend.

1148
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,160
I know.

1149
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,200
Oh! My family are
going to be so jealous.

1150
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,360
I told my sisters -
<font color="

1151
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,320
"What? How is this even possible?"

1152
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,640
So it's a different bounce
to what you're used to.

1153
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:24,480
I think it's really good

1154
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,920
to have someone like that
promoting women's sport.

1155
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,920
I think it's something that's
<font color="

1156
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,040
and to have someone
like her come along,

1157
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,120
it's just obviously
really encouraging.

1158
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,120
I think that will only
spur people on

1159
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,360
to go and achieve
even more excellence.

1160
00:53:39,720 --> 00:53:42,000
<font color="

1161
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,520
You know, when I was 12,
I did very well in school.

1162
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,120
You know, I was a straight-A student
until ninth grade

1163
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,240
and then, when I went to
high school, I started travelling

1164
00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:56,160
and then the grades - Bs -

1165
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,360
<font color="
travelling, I, you know,

1166
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,160
I had Cs, even,
which was unheard of for me,

1167
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,080
but...I was on the road so much.

1168
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,200
Hello. Oh, goodness.

1169
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,200
Welcome. Would you like
to come over here?

1170
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:10,680
<font color="

1171
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,640
Welcome, everybody. We're here
today to mark the occasion

1172
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,160
of Martina Navratilova becoming
an Honorary Fellow of our college.

1173
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,520
As it turned out, because when I was
in the final year of high school,

1174
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,640
<font color="
were during Wimbledon.

1175
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,480
I didn't go, and then I left
the country, then I defected,

1176
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,440
so I never graduated
from high school.

1177
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:33,760
Martina has said that the key thing
is for women to set no limits.

1178
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,520
<font color="
for women in sport

1179
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,880
and a motivational speaker
about women in leadership.

1180
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,440
Her tennis has
delighted and inspired

1181
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,040
generations of tennis fans

1182
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,280
and she can still be seen playing
at Wimbledon to this day

1183
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:51,360
<font color="
as she approaches her 60th birthday.

1184
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,320
LAUGHTER

1185
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,440
I, Martina Navratilova,

1186
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,320
elected an Honorary Fellow
of Lucy Cavendish College,

1187
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:02,560
accept the purpose of this college,
its statutes, ordinances...

1188
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,960
<font color="
this fellowship...'

1189
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,960
you know,
only women that have, like,

1190
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,160
brilliant academic careers
have that -

1191
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:12,840
that's pretty cool.

1192
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,600
Pretty cool. I'm very humbled.

1193
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:16,800
Martina Navratilova,

1194
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,400
<font color="
of Lucy Cavendish College,

1195
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,400
I welcome you as an honorary
fellow of the College.

1196
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,840
Thank you very much. Very nice
to have you here, Martina.

1197
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,520
Now... And I also promise to always
<font color="

1198
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,640
LAUGHTER

1199
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,240
I was planning on graduating

1200
00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:34,640
and becoming either
an architect or an engineer,

1201
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:38,400
building something, and play tennis
as long as I possibly could.

1202
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,120
I'm the fellow of mathematics.

1203
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,800
<font color="
Shona Wilson, biological scientist.

1204
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,560
I had a Plan A, which was school -

1205
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,720
Plan B was tennis, but then
the Plan B, kind of, took over.

1206
00:55:47,720 --> 00:55:49,240
I'm Jenny Gibson,

1207
00:55:49,240 --> 00:55:53,000
university lecturer
in psychology and education.

1208
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,920
<font color="

1209
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,160
LAUGHTER

1210
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,920
I usually just sign my first name,
so I have to practise my last name.

1211
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,960
LAUGHTER

1212
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,680
She herself would make
an intriguing subject.

1213
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,880
Rushing - always rushing -

1214
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,040
<font color="

1215
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,520
You've got two minutes
to get these photos.

1216
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,760
Oh, really? No pressure, then.

1217
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,720
A little bit closer
for the two of you, I think.

1218
00:56:18,720 --> 00:56:22,440
We've already been looking like
we're getting married, haven't we?

1219
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,160
<font color="

1220
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,080
That's lovely.

1221
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,040
That was great. Brilliant.

1222
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:29,680
Thank you so much.

1223
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:33,560
'You always find something to fight
for that you feel strongly about.

1224
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,240
'I've been fighting
on many different fronts -

1225
00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:39,440
<font color="
for animals, for the environment -

1226
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,360
'old people, as well.

1227
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,200
'People that basically can't
help themselves - and, of course,'

1228
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,000
gay and lesbian rights,

1229
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,280
women's rights, I mean,
we still have a long way to go.

1230
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,480
<font color="
nothing to fight for are white men.

1231
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,160
Straight white men.
They are all set.

1232
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,880
But if you're outside of that,

1233
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,160
you're an outsider.

1234
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,520
And there is a mountain to climb -

1235
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,560
it just depends on
<font color="

1236
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,560
but there's a mountain to climb.

1237
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:10,200
'I do it in my time,
in my pace, at my level.'

1238
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,280
You know, I hope that it makes a
difference somewhere, on some level.

1239
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,280
There's always a fight.

1240
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,280
It's an appalling cliche

1241
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:21,840
<font color="

1242
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,480
but if anyone was going to have
Sinatra's My Way sung

1243
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,920
at some lifetime-achievement award,

1244
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,800
it should be Martina.
She really did do things her way.

1245
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,280
Great. Go on.
Let's get into the boat.

1246
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,320
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1247
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,280
I think she's really
enjoying being a mom.

1248
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,960
I think she's just having more
experiences outside the tennis court

1249
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,960
that have made her just fuller,
more of a full person.

1250
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,040
OK. Push her out. Ah!

1251
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,080
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to go for a swim in this.

1252
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,320
'She's the greatest tennis player
that ever lived.

1253
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:57,920
'You know, she's an inspiration.'

1254
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,280
And if I was an inspiration to her,
she's certainly been one to me.

1255
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:09,840
I think she taught all of us

1256
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,120
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in our own skin.

1257
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,960
Maybe SHE wasn't
as comfortable but, you know what,

1258
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,360
she made us feel like she was.

1259
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,400
She showed a human dimension
that was simply marvellous -

1260
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,840
to be so brilliant
without being robotic.

1261
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,600
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so athletic

1262
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,480
and so wonderfully joyous
when she won.

1263
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,760
And she gave sport everything,
and it is a richer sport.

1264
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,520
And I think she enriches
everything she touches.

1265
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,480
Thank you, girls. I passed the test?

1266
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,200
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to come for the next one?

1267
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,320
LAUGHTER

1268
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,320
I might do that.