1 00:00:06,257 --> 00:00:11,007 ♪ 2 00:00:11,053 --> 00:00:15,103 ♪ 3 00:00:15,141 --> 00:00:16,681 ELIZABETH: When I look at those photographs, 4 00:00:16,726 --> 00:00:19,396 I just realize, what felt like a deep and meaningful 5 00:00:19,437 --> 00:00:22,567 relationship we had, just having fun; 6 00:00:22,606 --> 00:00:24,686 my daughter's in most of the pictures; 7 00:00:24,734 --> 00:00:28,704 um, it just... it felt very inclusive. 8 00:00:28,738 --> 00:00:31,158 And I think that's why I had such a difficult time 9 00:00:31,198 --> 00:00:35,238 ever letting go of... of him. 10 00:00:35,286 --> 00:00:39,246 It's so incompatible with the Ted that I knew. 11 00:00:39,290 --> 00:00:41,580 I just didn't think he could do these things. 12 00:00:43,419 --> 00:00:45,129 REPORTER: Theodore Robert Bundy, at age 28, 13 00:00:45,171 --> 00:00:46,881 a University of Utah law student... 14 00:00:46,922 --> 00:00:48,552 BUNDY: How you doin'? WOMAN: Good, how are you? 15 00:00:48,591 --> 00:00:50,221 REPORTER: At 30, a Colorado jail escapee 16 00:00:50,259 --> 00:00:52,799 and one of the FBI's ten most wanted men. 17 00:00:52,845 --> 00:00:56,015 BARBARA: Ted Bundy knew how to prey on women. 18 00:00:56,056 --> 00:00:58,266 ♪ 19 00:00:58,309 --> 00:01:01,809 BARBARA: He knew he was going to go after women 20 00:01:01,854 --> 00:01:05,364 for their good nature, their willingness to help out, 21 00:01:05,399 --> 00:01:09,029 their empathy, their belief that they should be nurturers, 22 00:01:09,069 --> 00:01:12,779 that they should be kind, and especially be kind to men. 23 00:01:13,949 --> 00:01:16,829 KATHY: My jaw was broken in three places. 24 00:01:16,869 --> 00:01:19,789 I had lacerations on my shoulder. 25 00:01:19,830 --> 00:01:21,420 KAREN: I had a broken jaw. 26 00:01:21,457 --> 00:01:23,707 Um, some of my teeth were knocked out. 27 00:01:23,751 --> 00:01:25,134 REPORTER: 3, 2, 1. 28 00:01:25,169 --> 00:01:27,459 Tonight, Ted Bundy and cameras in the courtroom... 29 00:01:27,505 --> 00:01:28,625 REPORTER: Ted Bundy... REPORTER: Ted Bundy... 30 00:01:28,672 --> 00:01:29,672 REPORTER: Ted Bundy... REPORTER: Ted Bundy... 31 00:01:29,715 --> 00:01:30,715 REPORTER: Ted Bundy... 32 00:01:30,758 --> 00:01:32,008 REPORTER: Theodore Robert Bundy... 33 00:01:32,051 --> 00:01:33,391 MAN: Smile, Ted. 34 00:01:33,427 --> 00:01:38,137 LAURA: The Ted Bundy story has been recycled 35 00:01:38,182 --> 00:01:40,732 over and over and over again. 36 00:01:40,768 --> 00:01:42,688 It makes for great entertainment. 37 00:01:42,728 --> 00:01:45,858 He's a fascinating, evil character. 38 00:01:45,898 --> 00:01:49,858 GINGER: It's a discounting of the stories of the women, 39 00:01:49,902 --> 00:01:53,412 in favour of the central hero 40 00:01:53,447 --> 00:01:56,827 being the most important character in the narrative. 41 00:01:56,867 --> 00:01:59,617 And that is the failure to look deeper 42 00:01:59,662 --> 00:02:04,632 and think harder about violence against women in our culture. 43 00:02:04,667 --> 00:02:06,287 WOMAN: [screams] 44 00:02:06,335 --> 00:02:09,205 PY: At that time, women were on the cusp 45 00:02:09,255 --> 00:02:11,335 of becoming independent. 46 00:02:11,382 --> 00:02:14,012 You're starting to feel like you can do anything, 47 00:02:14,051 --> 00:02:17,811 and all of a sudden, you get walloped. 48 00:02:17,847 --> 00:02:20,637 LAURA: I guess I feel like speaking about my sister now 49 00:02:20,683 --> 00:02:24,813 because women's lives are still secondary to men, 50 00:02:24,854 --> 00:02:26,774 and somewhat expendable. 51 00:02:26,814 --> 00:02:29,734 It's the only reason to really poke at it again, 52 00:02:29,775 --> 00:02:33,105 is to try to learn something, to rise above it. 53 00:02:33,153 --> 00:02:36,243 ♪ 54 00:02:36,282 --> 00:02:39,242 ♪ 55 00:02:39,285 --> 00:02:44,825 ELIZABETH: The story has been told many times by men. 56 00:02:44,874 --> 00:02:46,834 I want to tell the story because I think 57 00:02:46,876 --> 00:02:49,086 there are some lessons to be learned. 58 00:02:49,128 --> 00:02:51,548 Now's the time to talk about this. 59 00:02:51,589 --> 00:02:53,419 And all of... all of this. 60 00:02:53,465 --> 00:02:55,005 Not just bits and pieces of it, 61 00:02:55,050 --> 00:02:57,890 but my story from beginning to end. 62 00:02:57,928 --> 00:03:01,018 ♪ 63 00:03:01,056 --> 00:03:06,476 ♪ Poses, poses ♪ 64 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:12,150 ♪ That's all you are to me ♪ 65 00:03:12,192 --> 00:03:17,992 ♪ Roses, roses ♪ 66 00:03:18,032 --> 00:03:23,502 ♪ That's all you're offering me ♪ 67 00:03:29,335 --> 00:03:33,665 ♪ 68 00:03:33,714 --> 00:03:38,344 ♪ 69 00:03:38,385 --> 00:03:43,345 ♪ 70 00:03:43,390 --> 00:03:48,350 ♪ 71 00:03:48,395 --> 00:03:52,975 ♪ 72 00:03:53,025 --> 00:03:55,275 ♪ 73 00:03:55,319 --> 00:03:56,649 ELIZABETH: I've had so much to work through 74 00:03:56,695 --> 00:03:59,405 since all of this happened. 75 00:03:59,448 --> 00:04:01,488 There was shame; there was guilt; 76 00:04:01,533 --> 00:04:04,703 there was all kinds of things that I... 77 00:04:04,745 --> 00:04:07,075 I didn't feel really good about. 78 00:04:07,122 --> 00:04:10,922 ♪ 79 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,250 ELIZABETH: Even after he was arrested 80 00:04:12,294 --> 00:04:14,464 and he was in prison, 81 00:04:14,505 --> 00:04:16,255 he wrote me many, many letters 82 00:04:16,298 --> 00:04:18,258 where he talked about me and my daughter 83 00:04:18,300 --> 00:04:20,510 being the best thing that ever happened to him, 84 00:04:20,552 --> 00:04:24,472 and that's what he really missed by not being free. 85 00:04:24,515 --> 00:04:26,725 He missed our life together. 86 00:04:26,767 --> 00:04:29,477 ♪ 87 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,770 [exhales] 88 00:04:31,814 --> 00:04:36,904 ♪ 89 00:04:36,944 --> 00:04:38,824 ♪ 90 00:04:38,862 --> 00:04:41,162 Gosh, it's... 91 00:04:41,198 --> 00:04:43,278 ♪ 92 00:04:43,325 --> 00:04:44,945 Oh, my gosh. 93 00:04:44,994 --> 00:04:47,204 "I would not change places with any other man in the world. 94 00:04:47,287 --> 00:04:49,157 "I consider you a miracle in my life, 95 00:04:49,206 --> 00:04:51,706 "and in spite of the disaster we have suffered, 96 00:04:51,750 --> 00:04:53,210 "I would not, for a moment, 97 00:04:53,252 --> 00:04:56,092 "ever wish for another woman. 98 00:04:56,130 --> 00:04:58,970 "You are the most loving and lovely woman I have ever known. 99 00:04:59,008 --> 00:05:03,348 "You are in my mind constantly. 100 00:05:03,387 --> 00:05:05,137 "No words could express adequately 101 00:05:05,180 --> 00:05:06,680 "the dimensions of my feelings. 102 00:05:06,724 --> 00:05:10,194 "I shall love you forever and forever in my dreams. 103 00:05:10,227 --> 00:05:12,397 "I shall love you with every long-haired beauty I see. 104 00:05:12,438 --> 00:05:14,478 "I shall love you with every clear blue sky. 105 00:05:14,523 --> 00:05:17,443 "I will love you until my last breath. 106 00:05:17,484 --> 00:05:20,744 "No goodbyes, just I love you." 107 00:05:20,779 --> 00:05:22,239 [sighs] That one... 108 00:05:22,322 --> 00:05:24,832 That one still gets me. 109 00:05:24,867 --> 00:05:29,707 ♪ 110 00:05:29,747 --> 00:05:34,667 ♪ 111 00:05:34,710 --> 00:05:39,630 ♪ 112 00:05:39,673 --> 00:05:42,973 ♪ 113 00:05:43,010 --> 00:05:44,760 ELIZABETH: We came over I-90, 114 00:05:44,803 --> 00:05:46,353 which is through the mountains. 115 00:05:46,388 --> 00:05:48,718 It had been raining, and there was mist in the air 116 00:05:48,766 --> 00:05:51,306 that was hanging at the tops of the trees. 117 00:05:51,351 --> 00:05:53,441 And then we ended up on a floating bridge 118 00:05:53,479 --> 00:05:55,769 that went across Lake Washington. 119 00:05:55,814 --> 00:05:57,404 It was just beautiful. 120 00:05:57,441 --> 00:05:59,491 And it just knocked my socks off. 121 00:05:59,526 --> 00:06:01,316 I was so happy to be here. 122 00:06:01,361 --> 00:06:02,491 I thought, "This is it. 123 00:06:02,529 --> 00:06:05,869 "This is the place I want to be." 124 00:06:05,908 --> 00:06:07,528 So I was a single mom, 125 00:06:07,576 --> 00:06:11,746 and I was moving here from Utah with my daughter, Molly. 126 00:06:11,789 --> 00:06:14,289 ♪ 127 00:06:14,333 --> 00:06:16,423 ELIZABETH: I found a place on Capitol Hill, 128 00:06:16,460 --> 00:06:19,210 which was kind of run-down at the time. 129 00:06:19,254 --> 00:06:21,094 It was a one-bedroom apartment, 130 00:06:21,131 --> 00:06:23,801 so my daughter slept on the couch. 131 00:06:23,842 --> 00:06:25,432 But it was close to where my friend lived, 132 00:06:25,469 --> 00:06:28,009 so I felt comfortable about that. 133 00:06:28,055 --> 00:06:31,845 You know, there weren't a lot of options in the day. 134 00:06:31,892 --> 00:06:35,522 There was like teaching, nursing, secretarial work. 135 00:06:35,562 --> 00:06:37,362 I thought I would be really happy 136 00:06:37,397 --> 00:06:39,107 working at the University of Washington, 137 00:06:39,149 --> 00:06:41,859 and I knew I could be a good secretary. 138 00:06:41,902 --> 00:06:43,902 [sound of fountains] 139 00:06:45,405 --> 00:06:47,235 ELIZABETH: The first interview I went out on, 140 00:06:47,282 --> 00:06:48,622 they hired me right away, 141 00:06:48,659 --> 00:06:50,619 and I thought, "Oh, this is great." 142 00:06:50,661 --> 00:06:51,871 And it just felt like I'm... 143 00:06:51,912 --> 00:06:53,662 gonna have this big adventure. 144 00:06:53,705 --> 00:06:56,125 ♪ 145 00:06:56,166 --> 00:06:57,666 ELIZABETH: My daughter, she was just three 146 00:06:57,709 --> 00:06:59,419 when I went to work. 147 00:06:59,461 --> 00:07:01,461 I found a good daycare for her, 148 00:07:01,505 --> 00:07:05,125 but it was hard for me to drop her off in the morning, 149 00:07:05,175 --> 00:07:07,425 so they'd let me bring my daughter to work, 150 00:07:07,469 --> 00:07:10,679 and she enjoyed it as much as I enjoyed having her there. 151 00:07:10,722 --> 00:07:13,272 ♪ 152 00:07:13,308 --> 00:07:15,978 ROBERT: When I was first introduced to Liz, 153 00:07:16,019 --> 00:07:17,979 I just couldn't believe it. 154 00:07:18,021 --> 00:07:20,941 She just looked so young and... 155 00:07:20,983 --> 00:07:22,863 and so vulnerable. 156 00:07:22,901 --> 00:07:25,201 The look on her face, it was like, 157 00:07:25,237 --> 00:07:29,117 "Oh my God, I finally got a job at the U." 158 00:07:29,158 --> 00:07:31,698 She just looked like she was so wide-eyed 159 00:07:31,743 --> 00:07:34,753 and hadn't been very many places. 160 00:07:34,788 --> 00:07:38,038 ♪ 161 00:07:38,083 --> 00:07:39,543 ELIZABETH: Growing up in Utah, 162 00:07:39,585 --> 00:07:43,205 I was the youngest out of four kids. 163 00:07:43,255 --> 00:07:46,925 Not that I was ever that good at going to Mormon church, 164 00:07:46,967 --> 00:07:49,217 but it was the culture in Utah. 165 00:07:49,261 --> 00:07:50,801 All your neighbours are Mormon. 166 00:07:50,846 --> 00:07:51,926 Everything that goes on down there 167 00:07:51,972 --> 00:07:54,852 has got influenced by the LDS church. 168 00:07:54,892 --> 00:07:58,732 The wife is there to support the husband in his important work, 169 00:07:58,770 --> 00:08:01,860 and so the most important job for a woman 170 00:08:01,899 --> 00:08:04,229 is to be a good wife and a good mother. 171 00:08:04,276 --> 00:08:05,486 MORMON WOMAN: In the Relief Society, 172 00:08:05,527 --> 00:08:07,447 we learn how to become better wives and mothers, 173 00:08:07,487 --> 00:08:09,357 and receive religious instruction 174 00:08:09,406 --> 00:08:11,156 in this worldwide organization. 175 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:12,450 [baby laughs] 176 00:08:12,492 --> 00:08:13,702 MORMON WOMAN: I feel that Mormon women 177 00:08:13,744 --> 00:08:16,714 have always been liberated. 178 00:08:16,747 --> 00:08:18,707 NEIGHBOUR: Hi, Jeanette. JEANETTE: Won't you come in? 179 00:08:18,749 --> 00:08:21,839 ♪ 180 00:08:21,877 --> 00:08:23,167 ELIZABETH: I often looked at my parents' marriage, 181 00:08:23,212 --> 00:08:25,052 and I thought, "That's just not for me," 182 00:08:25,088 --> 00:08:27,168 because my dad was the one that went out 183 00:08:27,216 --> 00:08:29,796 and made the living and brought in the money, 184 00:08:29,843 --> 00:08:32,013 and my mom took care of the home. 185 00:08:32,054 --> 00:08:35,144 And even though I was really wanting a family, 186 00:08:35,182 --> 00:08:40,602 I didn't see myself as having to... ask for money. 187 00:08:41,939 --> 00:08:46,899 And so it felt like there was really not a place for me. 188 00:08:46,944 --> 00:08:50,414 I mean, I just felt like I stuck out like a sore thumb. 189 00:08:50,447 --> 00:08:54,157 ♪ 190 00:08:54,201 --> 00:08:56,411 ELIZABETH: Since an early age I've been shy, 191 00:08:56,453 --> 00:08:59,503 so it's been a lifetime of struggle. 192 00:08:59,539 --> 00:09:01,289 When I meet new people or I'm in a situation 193 00:09:01,333 --> 00:09:05,093 that I've not been in before, I just get so tongue-tied, 194 00:09:05,128 --> 00:09:10,928 and really wishing that I could just crawl into a hole. 195 00:09:10,968 --> 00:09:14,808 I think it had a lot to do with self esteem. 196 00:09:14,846 --> 00:09:15,886 I just grew up thinking, 197 00:09:15,931 --> 00:09:17,221 "There's something wrong with me. 198 00:09:17,266 --> 00:09:19,136 "I don't know what it is." 199 00:09:19,184 --> 00:09:22,234 ♪ 200 00:09:22,271 --> 00:09:24,981 ELIZABETH: In college, I went through sorority rush, 201 00:09:25,023 --> 00:09:27,323 and at the end of that, I... I didn't get a bid, 202 00:09:27,359 --> 00:09:29,529 as they call it, and I got dropped. 203 00:09:29,569 --> 00:09:32,409 And even though I didn't think I wanted to be in a sorority, 204 00:09:32,447 --> 00:09:36,027 it was still devastating because it felt like rejection. 205 00:09:36,076 --> 00:09:38,116 And that's when I realized that if I drank, 206 00:09:38,161 --> 00:09:41,711 that I was just way more fun. 207 00:09:41,748 --> 00:09:43,958 So I just felt smarter, prettier, 208 00:09:44,001 --> 00:09:45,961 more charming, funnier. 209 00:09:46,003 --> 00:09:48,133 So drinking was a big problem, 210 00:09:48,171 --> 00:09:50,471 and it did nothing to help me become 211 00:09:50,507 --> 00:09:52,837 the person that I was hoping to become. 212 00:09:52,884 --> 00:09:56,644 ♪ 213 00:09:56,680 --> 00:09:57,930 ELIZABETH: I did get married and had a baby 214 00:09:57,973 --> 00:09:59,933 while I was still in college. 215 00:09:59,975 --> 00:10:01,685 My husband was very immature. 216 00:10:01,727 --> 00:10:04,727 He was a year younger than me and partying a lot. 217 00:10:04,771 --> 00:10:07,191 The marriage just didn't survive. 218 00:10:07,232 --> 00:10:10,322 ♪ 219 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:11,860 ELIZABETH: I really wanted to get married again 220 00:10:11,903 --> 00:10:13,363 and have more children. 221 00:10:13,405 --> 00:10:15,865 I thought that Seattle would be the place 222 00:10:15,907 --> 00:10:17,527 where I would really settle down, 223 00:10:17,576 --> 00:10:20,196 and I was just gonna work there until I found Mr. Right. 224 00:10:20,245 --> 00:10:22,865 [indistinct voices] 225 00:10:22,914 --> 00:10:26,134 ♪ 226 00:10:26,168 --> 00:10:28,838 ELIZABETH: When I first walked onto campus, 227 00:10:28,879 --> 00:10:31,719 I saw that there was this huge demonstration, 228 00:10:31,757 --> 00:10:34,047 and I saw all these police cars go by, 229 00:10:34,092 --> 00:10:36,892 and they were full of police in riot gear. 230 00:10:36,928 --> 00:10:38,928 I had no idea what was going on. 231 00:10:38,972 --> 00:10:40,642 And all of a sudden a big cheer went up, 232 00:10:40,682 --> 00:10:43,772 and these people had pushed a bulldozer into this pit 233 00:10:43,810 --> 00:10:46,150 that had been dug for a new building. 234 00:10:46,188 --> 00:10:48,818 [people cheering] 235 00:10:48,857 --> 00:10:52,107 ELIZABETH: And there were cops coming in riot gear 236 00:10:52,152 --> 00:10:54,572 by the carful, and I just stood on the sidewalk 237 00:10:54,613 --> 00:10:55,863 and watched it all, 238 00:10:55,906 --> 00:10:58,236 because I'd never seen anything like that in Utah. 239 00:10:58,283 --> 00:11:02,123 [people chanting] 240 00:11:02,162 --> 00:11:03,712 KNUTE: The University of Washington was a hotbed 241 00:11:03,747 --> 00:11:05,997 of anti-war movement. 242 00:11:06,041 --> 00:11:07,291 There were campus radicals; 243 00:11:07,334 --> 00:11:10,134 there was bombings; there were riots. 244 00:11:10,170 --> 00:11:13,720 And young women were showing more independence, 245 00:11:13,757 --> 00:11:15,377 trying new things. 246 00:11:15,425 --> 00:11:17,795 ♪ 247 00:11:17,844 --> 00:11:19,224 BARBARA: I was an undergraduate 248 00:11:19,262 --> 00:11:21,392 at the University of Washington. 249 00:11:21,431 --> 00:11:23,811 I was involved in the anti-war movement. 250 00:11:23,850 --> 00:11:26,310 I was involved in all sorts of left-wing, 251 00:11:26,353 --> 00:11:29,233 progressive politics, so for me, 252 00:11:29,272 --> 00:11:32,862 the political life at the university was just wonderful. 253 00:11:32,901 --> 00:11:34,691 It was a lot of fun. 254 00:11:34,736 --> 00:11:36,446 PROTESTORS: Two, four, six, eight! 255 00:11:36,488 --> 00:11:38,738 Separate the church and state! 256 00:11:38,782 --> 00:11:40,242 SPEAKER: Women have a fundamental right 257 00:11:40,283 --> 00:11:43,413 to control their own bodies and to control their own lives. 258 00:11:43,453 --> 00:11:44,963 [crowd cheering] 259 00:11:44,996 --> 00:11:46,326 PY: I came here in '69 260 00:11:46,373 --> 00:11:49,423 not knowing what I was getting into. 261 00:11:49,459 --> 00:11:52,589 We were making connections that we hadn't made before. 262 00:11:52,629 --> 00:11:54,509 We were working together. 263 00:11:54,548 --> 00:11:57,178 It was a time of discovery. 264 00:11:57,217 --> 00:12:01,097 You know, the world seemed like a new place. 265 00:12:01,138 --> 00:12:02,888 PROTESTORS: [chanting] 266 00:12:02,931 --> 00:12:04,311 NEWSWOMAN: This is a search for equality 267 00:12:04,349 --> 00:12:07,849 of opportunity, not the wish to be just like men. 268 00:12:07,894 --> 00:12:10,694 It is a desire for more options, for choice, 269 00:12:10,730 --> 00:12:12,900 for a shattering of stereotypes, 270 00:12:12,941 --> 00:12:15,361 for women to choose more freely the kinds of lives 271 00:12:15,402 --> 00:12:17,032 that they want to live. 272 00:12:17,070 --> 00:12:19,870 BROWN: Sex and the Single Girl does state the fact 273 00:12:19,906 --> 00:12:22,866 that single women do have sex lives occasionally, 274 00:12:22,909 --> 00:12:25,699 and it isn't the end of the world when they have them. 275 00:12:25,745 --> 00:12:28,785 The girl simply is not ruined, in my opinion, 276 00:12:28,832 --> 00:12:31,882 if she has had an affair before she gets married. 277 00:12:31,918 --> 00:12:33,958 ELIZABETH: It was a liberating time. 278 00:12:34,004 --> 00:12:36,724 It opened all these choices to us. 279 00:12:36,756 --> 00:12:38,836 And we were in control of our own fertility, 280 00:12:38,884 --> 00:12:40,304 our own bodies. 281 00:12:40,343 --> 00:12:42,723 It was a revolutionary change. 282 00:12:42,762 --> 00:12:44,562 CHISHOLM: What we need is to thrust new people 283 00:12:44,598 --> 00:12:47,478 into the limelight and to show the range and breadth 284 00:12:47,517 --> 00:12:50,307 of talent among women all over this nation. 285 00:12:50,353 --> 00:12:51,863 [applause] 286 00:12:51,897 --> 00:12:54,107 WOMAN: We are a delegation! 287 00:12:54,149 --> 00:12:56,439 We are women and we are allowed in this door. 288 00:12:56,485 --> 00:12:57,735 WOMAN: Yes! 289 00:12:57,777 --> 00:12:59,107 WOMAN: We're trying to point out what it feels like 290 00:12:59,154 --> 00:13:01,574 to be whistled at, put down constantly sexually, 291 00:13:01,615 --> 00:13:03,025 every time we walk down the street. 292 00:13:03,074 --> 00:13:04,954 We'd like people to understand what it feels like to have 293 00:13:04,993 --> 00:13:06,753 someone go [kissing sound] all the time. 294 00:13:06,786 --> 00:13:08,326 MAN: Yay! 295 00:13:08,371 --> 00:13:09,711 WOMAN: We're supposed to dig it 296 00:13:09,748 --> 00:13:11,918 because we're supposed to dig that we're sexual objects, 297 00:13:11,958 --> 00:13:14,208 and we don't want to be sexual objects anymore. 298 00:13:14,252 --> 00:13:15,962 WOMAN: I don't want to be treated that way. 299 00:13:16,004 --> 00:13:19,134 I want to have the rights to be a human being. 300 00:13:19,174 --> 00:13:21,474 MAN: You ain't got the guts enough to do it. 301 00:13:21,510 --> 00:13:23,640 PY: Men who were growing up in the times 302 00:13:23,678 --> 00:13:25,928 when women were subservient, 303 00:13:25,972 --> 00:13:30,062 and came of age when women were moving past that, 304 00:13:30,101 --> 00:13:34,731 I believe it triggered some very strong feelings in them, 305 00:13:34,773 --> 00:13:37,533 and in some of them, it was rage. 306 00:13:37,567 --> 00:13:41,397 ♪ 307 00:13:41,446 --> 00:13:42,606 ELIZABETH: My friend and I decided 308 00:13:42,656 --> 00:13:44,236 that we were gonna go out. 309 00:13:44,282 --> 00:13:47,542 It was my first night that I went out dancing in Seattle. 310 00:13:47,577 --> 00:13:49,697 We found a babysitter for my daughter, 311 00:13:49,746 --> 00:13:51,996 and we went to a tavern in the U District 312 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,500 called the Sandpiper. 313 00:13:54,543 --> 00:13:58,343 I noticed just a really good-looking man. 314 00:13:58,380 --> 00:14:00,340 He was sitting at the table by himself, 315 00:14:00,382 --> 00:14:03,092 and he said his name: it was Ted. 316 00:14:03,134 --> 00:14:06,104 ♪ 317 00:14:06,137 --> 00:14:09,017 ELIZABETH: I was flattered when he asked me to dance. 318 00:14:09,057 --> 00:14:11,597 I really had my eye on him all night, basically. 319 00:14:11,643 --> 00:14:14,313 We did dance, and then that was the end of it, 320 00:14:14,354 --> 00:14:16,404 so I was thinking maybe he was gonna ask me again, 321 00:14:16,439 --> 00:14:17,689 but he didn't. 322 00:14:17,732 --> 00:14:20,362 And I went over and started talking to him. 323 00:14:20,402 --> 00:14:24,162 As a single mom, I never wanted to be bringing men home, 324 00:14:24,197 --> 00:14:26,487 but I was too drunk to drive, really, 325 00:14:26,533 --> 00:14:28,743 and I said, "So, will you spend the night here?" 326 00:14:28,785 --> 00:14:29,865 And he said, "Yes." 327 00:14:29,911 --> 00:14:31,331 So I just laid down on the top of my bed 328 00:14:31,371 --> 00:14:34,041 without changing my clothes or anything, 329 00:14:34,082 --> 00:14:36,792 but he didn't try to kiss me or do any of that. 330 00:14:36,835 --> 00:14:40,375 ♪ 331 00:14:40,422 --> 00:14:41,672 ELIZABETH: When I got up in the morning, 332 00:14:41,715 --> 00:14:44,005 he had gotten Molly up, 333 00:14:44,050 --> 00:14:47,260 and he was fixing breakfast for both of us. 334 00:14:47,304 --> 00:14:50,104 So it just was like, "Oh, my gosh." 335 00:14:50,140 --> 00:14:53,230 It just took my breath away, basically. 336 00:14:53,268 --> 00:14:57,268 ♪ 337 00:14:57,314 --> 00:14:59,154 ROBERT: I was kidding her when she come in; 338 00:14:59,190 --> 00:15:00,980 I said, "What are you grinning about? 339 00:15:01,026 --> 00:15:02,686 "You look so happy." 340 00:15:02,736 --> 00:15:05,026 She said, "I met a guy last night, 341 00:15:05,071 --> 00:15:09,621 "and oh, what a handsome looking dude he was." 342 00:15:09,659 --> 00:15:12,159 [laughs] I says, "Oh, really?" 343 00:15:12,203 --> 00:15:16,833 And she was telling me all about the manly jawline he had, 344 00:15:16,875 --> 00:15:19,705 and how well-dressed he was. 345 00:15:19,753 --> 00:15:22,213 And I said, "Well, what happened?" 346 00:15:22,255 --> 00:15:24,965 She says, "You know, I went over 347 00:15:25,008 --> 00:15:27,258 "and I danced with him," 348 00:15:27,302 --> 00:15:32,022 and she said, "You can't believe the enjoyment 349 00:15:32,057 --> 00:15:37,017 "and the exhilaration of meeting somebody who reflected to me 350 00:15:37,062 --> 00:15:39,272 "how I was feeling about him." 351 00:15:39,314 --> 00:15:41,234 This is the way she went on and on. 352 00:15:41,274 --> 00:15:43,284 And I said, "What is this guy's name?" 353 00:15:43,318 --> 00:15:45,238 And she said, "Ted Bundy." 354 00:15:45,278 --> 00:15:47,988 ♪ 355 00:15:51,743 --> 00:15:53,543 ELIZABETH: I have not had that with anyone else, 356 00:15:53,578 --> 00:15:57,578 where I just right off the bat felt connected to someone. 357 00:15:57,624 --> 00:16:00,884 It just felt like two pieces of a puzzle 358 00:16:00,919 --> 00:16:03,129 coming together. It just fit. 359 00:16:03,171 --> 00:16:06,171 And it was really quite spectacular. 360 00:16:06,216 --> 00:16:08,586 ♪ 361 00:16:08,635 --> 00:16:10,175 ELIZABETH: I thought he was very funny, 362 00:16:10,220 --> 00:16:14,390 and he seemed very mature, and he seemed polished. 363 00:16:14,432 --> 00:16:17,142 And he told me that he was a law student, 364 00:16:17,185 --> 00:16:19,515 so I thought, 365 00:16:19,562 --> 00:16:22,482 "As a lawyer, he's certainly going to make a nice living 366 00:16:22,524 --> 00:16:25,614 "and have these wonderful things that he wants." 367 00:16:25,652 --> 00:16:27,072 And since I was new to Seattle, 368 00:16:27,112 --> 00:16:30,032 he could hardly wait to show me his favourite restaurants. 369 00:16:30,073 --> 00:16:33,243 He had a favourite Asian rug store that we went to 370 00:16:33,284 --> 00:16:34,664 and looked at all the Asian rugs. 371 00:16:34,703 --> 00:16:36,873 And just things that I... 372 00:16:36,913 --> 00:16:39,543 I thought were just endearing. 373 00:16:39,582 --> 00:16:42,922 ♪ 374 00:16:42,961 --> 00:16:44,001 ELIZABETH: My daughter had a lot of friends 375 00:16:44,045 --> 00:16:45,295 in our neighbourhood, 376 00:16:45,338 --> 00:16:47,338 and so Ted was really fun with them; 377 00:16:47,382 --> 00:16:48,722 he'd play with them. 378 00:16:48,758 --> 00:16:50,928 He'd get a hose and they'd all get their little umbrellas 379 00:16:50,969 --> 00:16:52,349 and they'd be in their swimming suits, 380 00:16:52,387 --> 00:16:54,347 and he'd make rain for them on the lawn. 381 00:16:54,389 --> 00:16:57,269 And of course, the kids loved it. 382 00:16:57,308 --> 00:17:00,268 He taught my daughter how to ride her bike. 383 00:17:00,311 --> 00:17:02,941 She just really took to that. 384 00:17:06,609 --> 00:17:08,949 MOLLY: Much like it is with everybody's dad 385 00:17:08,987 --> 00:17:10,657 teaching them to ride a bike, 386 00:17:10,697 --> 00:17:12,487 he ran along. 387 00:17:12,532 --> 00:17:14,332 Well, actually, let me start at this. 388 00:17:14,367 --> 00:17:17,577 He did not like it that I had training wheels on my bike, 389 00:17:17,620 --> 00:17:21,040 and so he took these wheels off my bike, 390 00:17:21,082 --> 00:17:23,132 and he would hold onto the back of it 391 00:17:23,168 --> 00:17:27,168 and run down the alleyway with me. 392 00:17:27,213 --> 00:17:29,383 And I would try to steer, 393 00:17:29,424 --> 00:17:32,304 and all of a sudden he said something, 394 00:17:32,343 --> 00:17:34,643 and he was way at the other end of the alley, 395 00:17:34,679 --> 00:17:37,349 and I realized I'm riding this bike by myself, 396 00:17:37,390 --> 00:17:40,810 so I crashed into someone's garage promptly. 397 00:17:40,852 --> 00:17:44,942 ♪ 398 00:17:44,981 --> 00:17:46,521 MOLLY: I remember meeting him. 399 00:17:46,566 --> 00:17:50,316 The first night when he came home with my mom 400 00:17:50,361 --> 00:17:51,491 to our house, 401 00:17:51,529 --> 00:17:54,369 and he read me my favourite book, 402 00:17:54,407 --> 00:17:56,577 which I had memorized. 403 00:17:56,618 --> 00:18:00,618 It was called, "Teddy Bear from Bumpkin Hollow." 404 00:18:00,663 --> 00:18:02,833 He would read a line and he would say, "Freddy Bear," 405 00:18:02,874 --> 00:18:05,544 and I'd say, "Not Freddy Bear, Teddy Bear," 406 00:18:05,585 --> 00:18:07,495 and he would just make it ridiculous, 407 00:18:07,545 --> 00:18:09,005 and I would laugh. 408 00:18:09,047 --> 00:18:11,467 And I thought he was delightful. 409 00:18:11,508 --> 00:18:14,508 ♪ 410 00:18:14,552 --> 00:18:16,352 MOLLY: If you look at any of these pictures, 411 00:18:16,387 --> 00:18:19,807 he's swinging me in circles, head first to the ground. 412 00:18:19,849 --> 00:18:24,599 And he was always throwing me, hanging me upside down. 413 00:18:24,646 --> 00:18:27,016 And I trusted him a hundred percent. 414 00:18:27,065 --> 00:18:30,815 I mean, he gave you his entire self. 415 00:18:30,860 --> 00:18:32,780 And, you know, for a kid, that's everything, 416 00:18:32,821 --> 00:18:37,701 for somebody to pay exquisite attention to your experiences, 417 00:18:37,742 --> 00:18:39,292 what you're looking for. 418 00:18:39,327 --> 00:18:42,117 And, I mean, I could see he lit my mom up 419 00:18:42,163 --> 00:18:44,173 like a woman in love, 420 00:18:44,207 --> 00:18:45,997 and that just made sense. 421 00:18:46,042 --> 00:18:47,672 We were like a family. 422 00:18:47,710 --> 00:18:49,880 That's what I remember. 423 00:18:49,921 --> 00:18:53,011 ♪ 424 00:18:53,049 --> 00:18:54,379 ELIZABETH: Well, he did seem to just 425 00:18:54,425 --> 00:18:56,465 settle right in to our family. 426 00:18:56,511 --> 00:18:58,511 It was like everything that I'd ever wanted, 427 00:18:58,555 --> 00:19:00,385 so I was hooked. 428 00:19:00,431 --> 00:19:02,431 ♪ 429 00:19:02,475 --> 00:19:06,595 ROBERT: That continuous happiness just radiated in her. 430 00:19:06,646 --> 00:19:11,606 And it was such a sweet story to watch love grow 431 00:19:11,651 --> 00:19:14,401 and be so intense and so complete. 432 00:19:14,445 --> 00:19:18,775 She swore that it was like going to heaven. 433 00:19:18,825 --> 00:19:21,615 ELIZABETH: I felt good in the relationship 434 00:19:21,661 --> 00:19:23,041 and I felt loved. 435 00:19:23,079 --> 00:19:25,289 I just didn't have any doubts. 436 00:19:25,331 --> 00:19:28,291 Ted and my dad had a bond that was really different 437 00:19:28,334 --> 00:19:30,004 than my relationship with my dad, 438 00:19:30,044 --> 00:19:34,974 but they'd just talk about football and politics, and... 439 00:19:35,008 --> 00:19:37,338 just have a good time together. 440 00:19:37,385 --> 00:19:38,885 And pretty soon he was asking if he could 441 00:19:38,928 --> 00:19:41,758 bring his little brother Richard along 442 00:19:41,806 --> 00:19:44,636 on certain outings that we were going on. 443 00:19:44,684 --> 00:19:46,024 ♪ 444 00:19:46,060 --> 00:19:47,480 RICHARD: My name is Rich Bundy, 445 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,980 and I was Ted Bundy's little brother. 446 00:19:51,024 --> 00:19:56,244 ♪ 447 00:19:56,279 --> 00:19:58,239 RICHARD: We were more than just brothers. 448 00:19:58,281 --> 00:20:00,411 You know, we were close friends. 449 00:20:00,450 --> 00:20:02,370 You know, I really looked forward 450 00:20:02,410 --> 00:20:04,790 to spending time with him, which I did a lot of. 451 00:20:04,829 --> 00:20:07,919 I'd spend weekends with him, and... 452 00:20:07,957 --> 00:20:09,287 summer vacations from school, 453 00:20:09,334 --> 00:20:12,464 I'd go live with him for most of the summer vacation. 454 00:20:12,503 --> 00:20:15,053 He was living in Seattle and he'd have me come up there, 455 00:20:15,089 --> 00:20:18,089 spend the weekend, a couple times a month. 456 00:20:18,134 --> 00:20:21,394 You know, we'd go over and pick up Liz and Molly 457 00:20:21,429 --> 00:20:23,679 and get the raft out, and it would just be-- 458 00:20:23,723 --> 00:20:26,063 seemed like a really healthy, "Okay, I got the basket. 459 00:20:26,100 --> 00:20:27,520 "Okay, doodly-doo," you know? 460 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:28,980 "Here we go." 461 00:20:29,020 --> 00:20:30,900 Like... 462 00:20:30,939 --> 00:20:32,689 the Wally and the Beaver, you know? 463 00:20:32,732 --> 00:20:35,532 That's an analogy some people won't understand, but... 464 00:20:35,568 --> 00:20:37,448 Uh, we were very close. 465 00:20:37,487 --> 00:20:38,737 INTERVIEWER: You loved him. 466 00:20:38,780 --> 00:20:40,070 RICHARD: I did love him. 467 00:20:40,114 --> 00:20:42,084 ♪ 468 00:20:42,116 --> 00:20:44,036 ELIZABETH: Ted just adored Richard. 469 00:20:44,077 --> 00:20:47,867 Always wanted to take him places and do things with him. 470 00:20:47,914 --> 00:20:49,584 We would frequently go, 471 00:20:49,624 --> 00:20:53,384 me and Ted and Molly and Richard, 472 00:20:53,419 --> 00:20:56,049 and we'd go and raft down certain rivers, 473 00:20:56,089 --> 00:21:00,009 and so it was a lot of fun, and we did a lot of rafting. 474 00:21:00,051 --> 00:21:01,971 I know that Richard looked up to him, 475 00:21:02,011 --> 00:21:05,261 and kind of held him in awe. 476 00:21:05,306 --> 00:21:06,556 RICHARD: You know, the kind of thing 477 00:21:06,599 --> 00:21:08,769 a boy of 12 years old just automatically thinks, like, 478 00:21:08,810 --> 00:21:12,060 "Oh, hey, that person's really awesome, 479 00:21:12,105 --> 00:21:13,265 "got it together. 480 00:21:13,314 --> 00:21:15,984 "I'm gonna follow what they say." 481 00:21:16,025 --> 00:21:18,815 It's like he could do no wrong. 482 00:21:18,861 --> 00:21:21,071 So... 483 00:21:22,448 --> 00:21:24,078 Yeah. 484 00:21:24,117 --> 00:21:27,197 ♪ 485 00:21:27,245 --> 00:21:31,455 ♪ 486 00:21:31,499 --> 00:21:36,089 ♪ 487 00:21:36,129 --> 00:21:38,509 ♪ 488 00:21:38,548 --> 00:21:41,928 JOEL: I was an instructor at University of Washington, 489 00:21:41,968 --> 00:21:46,308 teaching undergraduate abnormal psychology. 490 00:21:46,347 --> 00:21:48,097 A big thing on campus at the time 491 00:21:48,141 --> 00:21:50,391 was eliminating grades. 492 00:21:50,435 --> 00:21:53,475 And somebody spoke up and said, 493 00:21:53,521 --> 00:21:55,191 "Well, we ought to assign our own grades. 494 00:21:55,231 --> 00:21:57,781 "If I think I deserve a B, I'll work toward a B, 495 00:21:57,817 --> 00:21:59,607 "and that's what I'll get." 496 00:21:59,652 --> 00:22:02,282 And pretty soon, everybody's going, "Yeah." 497 00:22:02,321 --> 00:22:04,781 It felt like the class was about to spin out of control 498 00:22:04,824 --> 00:22:09,044 until this voice from about three quarters of the way back 499 00:22:09,078 --> 00:22:12,918 spoke up and said, "No. 500 00:22:12,957 --> 00:22:15,327 "Things need to be done properly. 501 00:22:15,376 --> 00:22:19,126 "There needs to be evaluation of our accomplishments, 502 00:22:19,172 --> 00:22:23,512 "and there needs to be order." 503 00:22:23,551 --> 00:22:25,221 And so I... you know, 504 00:22:25,261 --> 00:22:28,101 I looked up, and here's this fellow 505 00:22:28,139 --> 00:22:30,559 dressed, tweed sport coat, 506 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,020 button-down dress shirt, penny loafers, 507 00:22:34,062 --> 00:22:37,652 amid this sea of the unwashed, unshaven hippies. 508 00:22:37,690 --> 00:22:41,190 That was my introduction to Ted Bundy. 509 00:22:41,235 --> 00:22:44,065 ♪ 510 00:22:44,113 --> 00:22:45,783 JOEL: I thought he was being kind, 511 00:22:45,823 --> 00:22:51,503 I thought he was a person of some character. 512 00:22:51,537 --> 00:22:53,917 And I felt a sense of relief 513 00:22:53,956 --> 00:22:55,666 because a few moments earlier, 514 00:22:55,708 --> 00:22:57,248 I felt beleaguered. 515 00:22:57,293 --> 00:23:00,253 He seemed like a very likeable guy. 516 00:23:00,296 --> 00:23:03,796 ♪ 517 00:23:03,841 --> 00:23:05,471 DONNA: I was working at a place called 518 00:23:05,510 --> 00:23:07,470 Law and Justice Planning Office. 519 00:23:07,512 --> 00:23:10,262 And one of the things we were to do was to improve 520 00:23:10,306 --> 00:23:12,556 crime prevention in the city of Seattle. 521 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,020 The whole rape issue was important at that time, 522 00:23:15,061 --> 00:23:18,651 and I was lucky enough to do a study on rape 523 00:23:18,689 --> 00:23:22,149 based on reported rapes in Seattle 524 00:23:22,193 --> 00:23:25,533 in the previous several years. 525 00:23:25,571 --> 00:23:28,531 I received a telephone call from my mentor 526 00:23:28,574 --> 00:23:30,544 at the University of Washington, 527 00:23:30,576 --> 00:23:34,536 and she called to say that she had a student, 528 00:23:34,580 --> 00:23:37,290 and his name was Ted Bundy. 529 00:23:39,043 --> 00:23:41,923 DONNA: He had applied to law school, 530 00:23:41,963 --> 00:23:46,133 but his grades for his first two years in college 531 00:23:46,175 --> 00:23:48,005 were very poor. 532 00:23:48,052 --> 00:23:51,392 So his plan was to meet people in the system 533 00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:54,270 and have recommendations to take with him 534 00:23:54,308 --> 00:23:57,648 on his next round of applications for law school. 535 00:23:57,687 --> 00:24:01,727 He was so impressive that he was hired 536 00:24:01,774 --> 00:24:05,284 for a brand-new project, this crime prevention project. 537 00:24:05,319 --> 00:24:07,449 ♪ 538 00:24:07,488 --> 00:24:11,658 DONNA: He was to be working with some prominent lawyers 539 00:24:11,701 --> 00:24:13,541 and some businessmen and other people 540 00:24:13,578 --> 00:24:16,038 who were interested in preventing crime. 541 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,710 The head of the Commission at that time 542 00:24:17,748 --> 00:24:20,878 was Professor Ezra Stotland from the university, 543 00:24:20,918 --> 00:24:26,298 and Ezra was so charmed by him 544 00:24:26,340 --> 00:24:29,640 that he had him to dinner at his home many times, 545 00:24:29,677 --> 00:24:34,017 and told me that his 16-year-old daughter 546 00:24:34,056 --> 00:24:38,556 also thought that Ted was just special. 547 00:24:38,603 --> 00:24:41,273 And Ezra said, "You know, I secretly hoped 548 00:24:41,314 --> 00:24:44,574 "that my daughter would marry someone just like him." 549 00:24:44,609 --> 00:24:46,399 JOEL: If I were the father of a young woman 550 00:24:46,444 --> 00:24:49,574 and this young man came to the door 551 00:24:49,614 --> 00:24:51,914 to take my daughter to the prom, 552 00:24:51,949 --> 00:24:55,619 I would think, "I know she'll be safe with him." 553 00:24:55,661 --> 00:24:59,421 Because he really did come across as a Prince Charming. 554 00:25:00,458 --> 00:25:01,748 DONNA: And he was so smooth. 555 00:25:01,792 --> 00:25:03,172 He could attract you. 556 00:25:03,211 --> 00:25:05,251 He could pull you right into his space. 557 00:25:05,296 --> 00:25:06,666 He had a way about him. 558 00:25:06,714 --> 00:25:09,094 He talked very quietly and very softly. 559 00:25:09,133 --> 00:25:12,723 You had to lean forward to hear him, and it... 560 00:25:12,762 --> 00:25:15,312 and it closed the space between the two of you, 561 00:25:15,348 --> 00:25:17,768 and you were in his space, essentially. 562 00:25:17,808 --> 00:25:22,018 ♪ 563 00:25:22,063 --> 00:25:24,693 ♪ 564 00:25:24,732 --> 00:25:26,732 ELIZABETH: He was very interested in politics. 565 00:25:26,776 --> 00:25:28,526 And he liked hanging out with people 566 00:25:28,569 --> 00:25:31,199 that were part of the Republican party. 567 00:25:31,239 --> 00:25:34,239 EVANS: This nation demands new leadership. 568 00:25:34,283 --> 00:25:37,413 This is the Republican hour. 569 00:25:37,453 --> 00:25:39,713 [applause] 570 00:25:39,747 --> 00:25:43,327 KNUTE: Ted Bundy worked for the very popular 571 00:25:43,376 --> 00:25:46,046 pro-environment Republican governor that we had, 572 00:25:46,087 --> 00:25:47,297 Dan Evans. 573 00:25:47,338 --> 00:25:48,838 AD: Who's making sure California won't get 574 00:25:48,881 --> 00:25:51,131 one drop of Washington water? 575 00:25:51,175 --> 00:25:53,795 [slurping sound] Governor Dan Evans. 576 00:25:53,844 --> 00:25:55,724 Who got the state's freeway construction 577 00:25:55,763 --> 00:25:57,563 back on schedule? 578 00:25:57,598 --> 00:25:59,678 Governor Dan Evans. [car honks] 579 00:25:59,725 --> 00:26:02,645 ♪ 580 00:26:02,687 --> 00:26:05,897 ELIZABETH: Dan Evans had just been elected as governor, 581 00:26:05,940 --> 00:26:08,480 and so we got this invite to the Governor's Ball. 582 00:26:08,526 --> 00:26:10,816 But I was very insecure. 583 00:26:10,861 --> 00:26:14,951 Didn't feel like I fit the mould of a politician's girlfriend. 584 00:26:14,991 --> 00:26:16,951 Ted, on the other hand, he seemed so comfortable 585 00:26:16,993 --> 00:26:18,583 in social settings. 586 00:26:18,619 --> 00:26:21,789 ♪ 587 00:26:21,831 --> 00:26:22,921 ELIZABETH: No matter where he went, 588 00:26:22,957 --> 00:26:24,327 he could fit in easily. 589 00:26:24,375 --> 00:26:27,705 He could talk to almost anybody about anything. 590 00:26:27,753 --> 00:26:30,423 I mean, it was just astounding. 591 00:26:30,464 --> 00:26:35,434 ♪ 592 00:26:35,469 --> 00:26:38,889 ♪ 593 00:26:39,974 --> 00:26:42,734 MOLLY: He had the gift for dealing with all people. 594 00:26:42,768 --> 00:26:47,358 He was really rather gifted at seeing 595 00:26:47,398 --> 00:26:51,068 what you might need him to be, and being that. 596 00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:52,610 Looking back on it, you know, 597 00:26:52,653 --> 00:26:56,243 I feel like he was an impressive person. 598 00:26:56,282 --> 00:26:58,412 ♪ 599 00:26:58,451 --> 00:27:00,831 MOLLY: We felt lucky he picked us, 600 00:27:00,870 --> 00:27:04,040 and we felt kind of like the country cousins, you know? 601 00:27:04,081 --> 00:27:07,541 And he was more sophisticated than we were. 602 00:27:07,585 --> 00:27:10,295 ♪ 603 00:27:10,338 --> 00:27:11,588 MOLLY: What it looked like 604 00:27:11,630 --> 00:27:15,220 is that he was a step above ourselves. 605 00:27:15,259 --> 00:27:18,299 We kind of started to see 606 00:27:18,346 --> 00:27:21,346 the kind of... choices he would want, 607 00:27:21,390 --> 00:27:23,930 like in our clothes and things. 608 00:27:23,976 --> 00:27:25,346 I remember that. 609 00:27:25,394 --> 00:27:28,944 It was conservative, upper-crusty things. 610 00:27:28,981 --> 00:27:31,361 He wanted me to wear a dress. 611 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,610 It was not really so much about evaluating him. 612 00:27:35,654 --> 00:27:38,574 Clearly he was magnificent in all ways. 613 00:27:38,616 --> 00:27:41,406 And so we should just, you know, 614 00:27:41,452 --> 00:27:46,372 aspire to rise to his level of... 615 00:27:46,415 --> 00:27:48,665 of polish. 616 00:27:48,709 --> 00:27:51,799 ♪ 617 00:27:51,837 --> 00:27:53,207 STEVEN: He wanted to dress well. 618 00:27:53,255 --> 00:27:56,085 He wanted to be seen with the right kind of people. 619 00:27:56,133 --> 00:27:58,843 He saw that as his way forward. 620 00:27:58,886 --> 00:28:01,216 And how many Republican-- you know, young Republicans, 621 00:28:01,263 --> 00:28:03,273 were there in-- at the University of Washington? 622 00:28:03,307 --> 00:28:04,557 Not so many. 623 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,100 I mean, he was a Republican at the time that Nixon 624 00:28:06,143 --> 00:28:08,773 was the face of the party. 625 00:28:08,813 --> 00:28:12,823 ♪ 626 00:28:12,858 --> 00:28:14,818 NIXON: I don't promise that we can eradicate poverty 627 00:28:14,860 --> 00:28:16,240 and end discrimination, 628 00:28:16,278 --> 00:28:17,908 and eliminate all danger of war 629 00:28:17,947 --> 00:28:20,237 in the space of four, or even eight years, 630 00:28:20,282 --> 00:28:22,542 but I do promise action, 631 00:28:22,576 --> 00:28:24,196 a new policy for peace abroad, 632 00:28:24,245 --> 00:28:25,995 a new policy for peace and progress 633 00:28:26,038 --> 00:28:28,708 and justice at home. [applause] 634 00:28:28,749 --> 00:28:32,089 ♪ 635 00:28:32,128 --> 00:28:34,918 ANCHORMAN: At first it was called the Watergate Caper. 636 00:28:34,964 --> 00:28:37,264 Five men apparently caught in the act 637 00:28:37,299 --> 00:28:39,049 of burglarizing and bugging 638 00:28:39,093 --> 00:28:42,103 Democratic headquarters in Washington. 639 00:28:42,138 --> 00:28:44,598 KNUTE: Watergate was the big national story. 640 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,140 It gained momentum. 641 00:28:46,183 --> 00:28:48,643 Everybody was following every development, 642 00:28:48,686 --> 00:28:50,146 every hearing. 643 00:28:50,187 --> 00:28:51,397 REPORTER: Donald Segretti. 644 00:28:51,439 --> 00:28:54,319 Reports in major newspapers say White House aides 645 00:28:54,358 --> 00:28:57,188 recruited Segretti for secret intelligence work 646 00:28:57,236 --> 00:29:00,696 and dirty tricks against the Democrats. 647 00:29:00,739 --> 00:29:03,199 DONNA: There was someone named Donald Segretti, 648 00:29:03,242 --> 00:29:07,122 who was a dirty trickster in the Nixon campaign. 649 00:29:07,163 --> 00:29:10,833 These Republican tricksters were calling prostitutes 650 00:29:10,875 --> 00:29:12,455 and ordering them up 651 00:29:12,501 --> 00:29:15,631 for delegates at the Democratic Convention. 652 00:29:15,671 --> 00:29:19,381 It made it look like the Democrats had called up 653 00:29:19,425 --> 00:29:22,795 to get all of these prostitutes involved. 654 00:29:22,845 --> 00:29:26,385 At the same time, Ted came to visit me one day. 655 00:29:26,432 --> 00:29:29,562 He'd been working in this gubernatorial campaign, 656 00:29:29,602 --> 00:29:32,612 and he was standing in my office, 657 00:29:32,646 --> 00:29:35,226 and I remember him telling me about this, 658 00:29:35,274 --> 00:29:38,534 that he had been helping this candidate 659 00:29:38,569 --> 00:29:40,359 in the governor's race, 660 00:29:40,404 --> 00:29:45,454 and that he had been involved in following around the opponent 661 00:29:45,493 --> 00:29:49,463 and wearing wigs and false moustache and other things. 662 00:29:49,497 --> 00:29:50,537 BUNDY: It's hard for me to believe 663 00:29:50,581 --> 00:29:51,831 that what I did is newsworthy, 664 00:29:51,874 --> 00:29:54,084 and my part in the campaign was so insignificant, 665 00:29:54,126 --> 00:29:57,206 I'm embarrassed that I should be getting this publicity from it. 666 00:29:57,254 --> 00:29:59,594 Really embarrassed. [laughs] 667 00:29:59,632 --> 00:30:01,382 DONNA: And I remember saying to him, 668 00:30:01,425 --> 00:30:04,215 "Are you getting your lead from Donald Segretti?" 669 00:30:04,261 --> 00:30:05,601 And I can remember he laughed. 670 00:30:05,638 --> 00:30:08,348 He was sort of relishing telling us about that 671 00:30:08,390 --> 00:30:10,600 and about wearing different wigs 672 00:30:10,643 --> 00:30:12,233 and having to appear differently 673 00:30:12,269 --> 00:30:14,229 in different contexts, 674 00:30:14,271 --> 00:30:15,811 and that nobody ever put it together; 675 00:30:15,856 --> 00:30:19,316 nobody ever saw him as the same person. 676 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,860 ♪ 677 00:30:21,904 --> 00:30:26,034 DONNA: He was like a chameleon. 678 00:30:26,075 --> 00:30:28,655 In addition to that, he stole all these things 679 00:30:28,702 --> 00:30:31,622 from the political headquarters that he was working in. 680 00:30:31,664 --> 00:30:34,214 He stole a typewriter; he stole a printer; 681 00:30:34,250 --> 00:30:36,210 he stole paper; he stole-- 682 00:30:36,252 --> 00:30:38,422 everything he could get his hands on, he stole. 683 00:30:38,462 --> 00:30:41,132 I was very put off by what he was doing, 684 00:30:41,173 --> 00:30:45,183 and... I remember thinking, 685 00:30:45,219 --> 00:30:47,429 "I think I'm done with this guy." 686 00:30:47,471 --> 00:30:50,931 ♪ 687 00:30:50,975 --> 00:30:53,475 ♪ 688 00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:55,059 ELIZABETH: I didn't really know much about 689 00:30:55,104 --> 00:30:57,944 the political part of his life, 690 00:30:57,982 --> 00:31:01,532 but as long as I'd known Ted, he was stealing things. 691 00:31:01,569 --> 00:31:04,529 And he would get all dressed up in his good clothes, and... 692 00:31:04,572 --> 00:31:06,032 which, he looked so handsome, you know, 693 00:31:06,073 --> 00:31:07,243 suit and tie, and... 694 00:31:07,283 --> 00:31:09,373 he told me that there's a tunnel under Northgate, 695 00:31:09,410 --> 00:31:11,290 which is a big mall here. 696 00:31:11,328 --> 00:31:13,288 And that he would park in the tunnel 697 00:31:13,330 --> 00:31:16,000 under the Bon Marche, at the time. 698 00:31:16,041 --> 00:31:17,791 And he'd just go get what he wanted from the store 699 00:31:17,835 --> 00:31:20,665 and take it out to the loading dock, to the car, 700 00:31:20,713 --> 00:31:24,343 and he was proud of how brazen he could be 701 00:31:24,383 --> 00:31:26,303 and get away with it. 702 00:31:26,343 --> 00:31:30,723 So I'm running that through my de-coder to think, 703 00:31:30,764 --> 00:31:32,684 "Oh, this is the way we live now, 704 00:31:32,725 --> 00:31:35,555 "is we take things if they're there." 705 00:31:35,603 --> 00:31:39,113 On a campus, everybody's stealing the textbooks. 706 00:31:39,148 --> 00:31:42,028 I had read a book by Abbie Hoffman 707 00:31:42,067 --> 00:31:44,987 that was titled, "Steal This Book." 708 00:31:45,029 --> 00:31:46,319 And so I just thought, 709 00:31:46,363 --> 00:31:49,743 well, I was way behind the curve as far as being cool. 710 00:31:49,783 --> 00:31:51,993 ♪ 711 00:31:52,036 --> 00:31:54,906 ELIZABETH: I did confront him about it eventually, 712 00:31:54,955 --> 00:31:57,245 and I would tell him that I thought it was just so foolish, 713 00:31:57,291 --> 00:31:59,171 because he wanted to make his living as an attorney 714 00:31:59,209 --> 00:32:00,539 or as a politician, 715 00:32:00,586 --> 00:32:03,796 and this was not gonna serve him well if he got caught. 716 00:32:03,839 --> 00:32:06,969 And his idea was that he'd never get caught. 717 00:32:07,009 --> 00:32:11,759 ♪ 718 00:32:11,805 --> 00:32:14,305 JANE: By 1973, the women's movement 719 00:32:14,350 --> 00:32:16,230 was making serious gains. 720 00:32:16,268 --> 00:32:20,438 I mean, we had attained rights to autonomy over our bodies, 721 00:32:20,481 --> 00:32:23,941 including the autonomy to be able to have an abortion. 722 00:32:23,984 --> 00:32:27,994 ♪ 723 00:32:28,030 --> 00:32:31,240 ♪ 724 00:32:31,283 --> 00:32:34,413 JANE: Women felt free to date whom they choose, 725 00:32:34,453 --> 00:32:38,463 to found their own women's liberation clubs on campus. 726 00:32:38,499 --> 00:32:39,999 We started getting the inception of things 727 00:32:40,042 --> 00:32:43,342 like Women's Studies, even, on those college campuses. 728 00:32:43,379 --> 00:32:45,509 And that gave us hope 729 00:32:45,547 --> 00:32:48,087 that the world was really opening up for us. 730 00:32:48,133 --> 00:32:52,353 ♪ 731 00:32:52,388 --> 00:32:56,228 ♪ 732 00:32:56,266 --> 00:32:59,346 JOANNE: I was in Arizona, at the time, 733 00:32:59,395 --> 00:33:02,475 and I was interested in the northwest, 734 00:33:02,523 --> 00:33:06,243 and I saw a picture of the Space Needle in a magazine. 735 00:33:06,276 --> 00:33:09,906 My adventurous spirit drove me to investigate the school, 736 00:33:09,947 --> 00:33:12,527 and I decided to go. 737 00:33:12,574 --> 00:33:17,544 ♪ 738 00:33:17,579 --> 00:33:21,539 JOANNE: I think part of me was drawn to the political activism, 739 00:33:21,583 --> 00:33:25,463 the social justice kinds of causes that I heard about. 740 00:33:25,504 --> 00:33:28,974 I was certainly very interested in racial equity 741 00:33:29,007 --> 00:33:30,427 and knowing more about that, 742 00:33:30,467 --> 00:33:32,467 and being in a more diverse environment. 743 00:33:32,511 --> 00:33:36,061 ♪ 744 00:33:36,098 --> 00:33:38,388 PHYLLIS: I loved the University of Washington. 745 00:33:38,434 --> 00:33:43,114 I came from a very small town, and everything was possible. 746 00:33:43,147 --> 00:33:46,107 I mean, by 1973, that fall, 747 00:33:46,150 --> 00:33:49,610 it wasn't our goal to meet some man from a fraternity 748 00:33:49,653 --> 00:33:51,163 and get married; it wasn't like that. 749 00:33:51,196 --> 00:33:53,986 I mean, truly, everything was possible. 750 00:33:54,032 --> 00:33:56,662 In fact, when we went through rush, Bobby Riggs, 751 00:33:56,702 --> 00:33:59,202 he had said that women belonged in the kitchen, 752 00:33:59,246 --> 00:34:00,906 and they belonged in the bedroom, 753 00:34:00,956 --> 00:34:03,166 and they belonged, you know, holding babies. 754 00:34:03,208 --> 00:34:04,918 BOBBY: The male is king, the male is supreme. 755 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,210 Girls play a nice game of tennis, for girls. 756 00:34:07,254 --> 00:34:08,594 ♪ 757 00:34:08,630 --> 00:34:10,170 REPORTER: It's sometimes difficult to remember 758 00:34:10,215 --> 00:34:12,835 that all this is about a tennis game. 759 00:34:12,885 --> 00:34:14,925 For days, the two stayed away from each other, 760 00:34:14,970 --> 00:34:16,890 away from confrontation. 761 00:34:16,930 --> 00:34:19,140 But finally, like boxers at a weigh-in, 762 00:34:19,183 --> 00:34:23,193 they met for the pre-game eyeball-to-eyeball challenge. 763 00:34:23,228 --> 00:34:25,058 In between tennis hustles, 764 00:34:25,105 --> 00:34:27,065 Riggs hustles pretty blondes. 765 00:34:27,107 --> 00:34:28,777 BOBBY: She says you're gonna scrape me off the court 766 00:34:28,817 --> 00:34:30,817 at the AstroDome, and I claim it's gonna be her 767 00:34:30,861 --> 00:34:31,991 they're gonna scrape off. 768 00:34:32,029 --> 00:34:33,659 And it is gonna be the battle of the sexes. 769 00:34:33,697 --> 00:34:37,197 Don't anybody let you tell you it's any different. 770 00:34:37,242 --> 00:34:40,872 PHYLLIS: But she's strong, she's a very good athlete, 771 00:34:40,913 --> 00:34:43,713 and she smoked him. 772 00:34:43,749 --> 00:34:45,629 PHYLLIS: It was a very big deal. 773 00:34:45,667 --> 00:34:47,497 [crowd cheering] 774 00:34:47,544 --> 00:34:49,304 PHYLLIS: It brought women together, 775 00:34:49,338 --> 00:34:52,508 and that gets reflected culturally. 776 00:34:52,549 --> 00:34:54,799 [theme music] 777 00:34:54,843 --> 00:34:57,263 BARBARA: The Mary Tyler Moore show was a very important show 778 00:34:57,304 --> 00:34:59,354 that resonated with women. 779 00:34:59,389 --> 00:35:03,559 THEME: ♪ How will you make it on your own? ♪ 780 00:35:03,602 --> 00:35:06,942 BARBARA: It handled an unmarried woman's life 781 00:35:06,980 --> 00:35:08,900 who moved to the big city 782 00:35:08,941 --> 00:35:11,611 to become a successful career woman. 783 00:35:11,652 --> 00:35:13,492 So it had a great sense of freedom. 784 00:35:13,529 --> 00:35:14,569 I'm on my own. 785 00:35:14,613 --> 00:35:16,953 I've got a little bit of responsibility. 786 00:35:16,990 --> 00:35:22,620 THEME: ♪ You might just make it after all! ♪ 787 00:35:24,456 --> 00:35:27,416 GINGER: If you look at all of those popular 788 00:35:27,459 --> 00:35:30,169 television shows in the 1970s, 789 00:35:30,212 --> 00:35:33,132 these are all women who had the ability 790 00:35:33,173 --> 00:35:36,013 to take themselves somewhere else. 791 00:35:36,051 --> 00:35:38,221 Being mobile was an important part 792 00:35:38,262 --> 00:35:41,182 of their being independent women, 793 00:35:41,223 --> 00:35:44,273 and this was a big change in the culture. 794 00:35:44,309 --> 00:35:47,899 And this, of course, is the time that the murders begin. 795 00:35:47,938 --> 00:35:53,028 ♪ 796 00:35:53,068 --> 00:35:57,528 ♪ 797 00:35:57,573 --> 00:35:59,123 ♪ 798 00:35:59,157 --> 00:36:01,697 KAREN: My name is Karen Epley. 799 00:36:01,743 --> 00:36:03,793 On January 4th, 1974, 800 00:36:03,829 --> 00:36:08,329 I was attacked and left for dead. 801 00:36:08,375 --> 00:36:09,455 INTERVIEWER: This is the first time 802 00:36:09,501 --> 00:36:11,041 you've ever spoken about this. 803 00:36:11,086 --> 00:36:14,296 You are, I believe, Ted Bundy's first victim. 804 00:36:14,339 --> 00:36:17,469 KAREN: I... I believe so, yes. 805 00:36:17,509 --> 00:36:22,099 And one of the only that survived. 806 00:36:22,139 --> 00:36:24,139 I was living in the U District, 807 00:36:24,182 --> 00:36:26,142 studying political science. 808 00:36:26,184 --> 00:36:28,734 He came into my home, 809 00:36:28,770 --> 00:36:31,610 took a bed frame off of my bed, 810 00:36:31,648 --> 00:36:34,148 and smashed my skull. 811 00:36:34,192 --> 00:36:40,162 Then he used probably the same bed frame, 812 00:36:40,198 --> 00:36:44,408 smashed it into my vagina, and into my bladder. 813 00:36:44,453 --> 00:36:50,423 My bladder was totally split, so... uh... 814 00:36:50,459 --> 00:36:52,959 It was horrible. 815 00:36:53,003 --> 00:36:57,883 ♪ 816 00:36:57,925 --> 00:37:01,345 ♪ 817 00:37:01,386 --> 00:37:04,466 ♪ 818 00:37:04,514 --> 00:37:07,984 INTERVIEWER: And you stayed that way in bed 819 00:37:08,018 --> 00:37:10,098 without anybody knowing you'd been attacked, 820 00:37:10,145 --> 00:37:11,475 for hours. 821 00:37:11,521 --> 00:37:15,781 KAREN: Right. It was... 822 00:37:15,817 --> 00:37:20,027 18 hours, 20 hours. 823 00:37:20,072 --> 00:37:23,782 My roommate Bob thought I was still sleeping. 824 00:37:23,825 --> 00:37:27,495 Later on he went down and checked me again, 825 00:37:27,537 --> 00:37:29,327 and there he found the blood, 826 00:37:29,373 --> 00:37:33,213 and it was just horrible for him to find me that way. 827 00:37:33,251 --> 00:37:38,721 And next thing I remember, was waking up in the hospital 828 00:37:38,757 --> 00:37:41,797 and I thought, "Uh-oh, this is really bad. 829 00:37:41,843 --> 00:37:43,513 "This is really bad." 830 00:37:43,553 --> 00:37:45,103 And so I asked my father. 831 00:37:45,138 --> 00:37:47,268 I said, "Dad, what happened?" 832 00:37:47,307 --> 00:37:51,267 And he said, "Well, you had a little bump in your head." 833 00:37:51,311 --> 00:37:55,111 ♪ 834 00:37:55,148 --> 00:37:58,988 ♪ 835 00:37:59,027 --> 00:38:01,697 KAREN: I was permanently brain-damaged. 836 00:38:01,738 --> 00:38:04,198 And he'd say, you know, "That's a desk, or a chair." 837 00:38:04,241 --> 00:38:05,621 "Can you say those words?" 838 00:38:05,659 --> 00:38:09,039 And I just couldn't get them out of my mouth. 839 00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:11,919 I've lost 50 percent of my hearing, 840 00:38:11,957 --> 00:38:14,917 40 percent of my vision. 841 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,510 I have a terrible ringing and roaring in my ears, 842 00:38:19,548 --> 00:38:21,468 just constant. 843 00:38:21,508 --> 00:38:24,588 I had epileptic fits. 844 00:38:24,636 --> 00:38:27,926 Luckily I was able to overcome those. 845 00:38:27,973 --> 00:38:30,853 INTERVIEWER: Why have you lived under the radar for so long? 846 00:38:30,892 --> 00:38:33,602 KAREN: Well, I... I wanted to keep quiet. 847 00:38:33,645 --> 00:38:39,565 I wanted to have my own life and privacy. 848 00:38:39,609 --> 00:38:42,279 Women like us, 849 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,610 women that have been attacked, 850 00:38:43,655 --> 00:38:44,735 women that have been raped, 851 00:38:44,781 --> 00:38:47,831 women that are... survivors, 852 00:38:47,868 --> 00:38:50,198 they keep their secrets to themselves. 853 00:38:50,245 --> 00:38:51,995 I don't know why. 854 00:38:52,039 --> 00:38:55,709 We're taught to just get on with it, so... 855 00:38:55,751 --> 00:38:59,881 ♪ 856 00:38:59,921 --> 00:39:04,181 ♪ 857 00:39:04,217 --> 00:39:07,717 ♪ 858 00:39:07,763 --> 00:39:09,643 REPORTER: Lynda lived here in this green house 859 00:39:09,681 --> 00:39:11,101 in the university district, 860 00:39:11,141 --> 00:39:13,851 along with five other university students. 861 00:39:13,894 --> 00:39:16,024 She was last seen here Thursday evening, 862 00:39:16,063 --> 00:39:17,983 about 12 o'clock. 863 00:39:18,023 --> 00:39:21,113 JOANNE: Lynda was one of the first people I met. 864 00:39:21,151 --> 00:39:23,741 Certainly the first person I spent any time with. 865 00:39:23,779 --> 00:39:26,159 And I can't explain the welcome embrace 866 00:39:26,198 --> 00:39:28,118 that I received from her. 867 00:39:28,158 --> 00:39:30,078 I think we both knew within a day or two 868 00:39:30,118 --> 00:39:32,908 that we were going to be very dear friends, 869 00:39:32,954 --> 00:39:36,174 and we were together all the time 870 00:39:36,208 --> 00:39:37,958 and excited about the world and life. 871 00:39:38,001 --> 00:39:41,001 We had late-night conversations all of the time 872 00:39:41,046 --> 00:39:44,256 about what we wanted to be, what we wanted to do. 873 00:39:44,299 --> 00:39:46,639 She was just vibrant. 874 00:39:46,676 --> 00:39:48,926 Just... 875 00:39:48,970 --> 00:39:52,100 There's not a room she walked into that didn't light up. 876 00:39:52,140 --> 00:39:55,140 She was beautiful. She was beautiful. 877 00:39:55,185 --> 00:40:00,145 ♪ 878 00:40:00,190 --> 00:40:02,440 KAREN: It was Lynda's week to cook. 879 00:40:02,484 --> 00:40:04,034 And so Friday night, she planned to have 880 00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:05,569 her parents over for dinner 881 00:40:05,612 --> 00:40:07,952 and we were all supposed to be there. 882 00:40:07,989 --> 00:40:10,119 JOANNE: That night, she wanted to do something extra special, 883 00:40:10,158 --> 00:40:11,988 so I told her I would help her with the meal, 884 00:40:12,035 --> 00:40:14,195 and so we were planning it together. 885 00:40:14,246 --> 00:40:18,626 I had a bedroom on the main level by the kitchen, 886 00:40:18,667 --> 00:40:21,127 and she stopped in so that we could discuss 887 00:40:21,169 --> 00:40:24,419 everything we were going to do the next evening 888 00:40:24,464 --> 00:40:25,514 for dinner. 889 00:40:25,549 --> 00:40:27,049 And she was very chipper and cheerful, 890 00:40:27,092 --> 00:40:28,802 and she said, "Okay, I'm going down to sleep," 891 00:40:28,844 --> 00:40:31,104 because she had to get up early. 892 00:40:31,138 --> 00:40:35,018 KAREN: I came home, ran up the steps into the house, 893 00:40:35,058 --> 00:40:37,188 and somebody was walking up the street. 894 00:40:37,227 --> 00:40:39,307 I didn't look; I just sort of went in 895 00:40:39,354 --> 00:40:40,694 and locked the front door. 896 00:40:40,730 --> 00:40:42,360 Our upper two roommates, Ginger and Monica, 897 00:40:42,399 --> 00:40:44,609 were upstairs asleep. 898 00:40:44,651 --> 00:40:48,111 Joanne had a bedroom off the kitchen on the main floor. 899 00:40:48,155 --> 00:40:49,775 Lynda and I shared the basement 900 00:40:49,823 --> 00:40:51,783 and my window faced the back of the house. 901 00:40:51,825 --> 00:40:54,695 And then her window faced the other side of the house. 902 00:40:54,744 --> 00:40:57,874 So I came in, and I stayed up probably about a half hour, 903 00:40:57,914 --> 00:40:59,214 or 20 minutes, 904 00:40:59,249 --> 00:41:03,879 and talked with Joanne in the kitchen. 905 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,050 And then I went down to bed. 906 00:41:06,089 --> 00:41:09,089 And when I went down to bed, I locked the side door. 907 00:41:09,134 --> 00:41:10,844 You'd go down four steps. 908 00:41:10,886 --> 00:41:14,136 ♪ 909 00:41:14,181 --> 00:41:15,471 KAREN: When I got up in the morning, 910 00:41:15,515 --> 00:41:17,845 the alarm was going and it wasn't being shut off, 911 00:41:17,893 --> 00:41:19,273 and it went on, and it went on, 912 00:41:19,311 --> 00:41:20,481 and on and on. 913 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,360 So I went in and shut it off 914 00:41:22,397 --> 00:41:24,017 and her bed was made perfect. 915 00:41:24,065 --> 00:41:26,435 I mean, like she had never slept in it. 916 00:41:26,484 --> 00:41:29,324 And then the phone rang as I was getting ready to leave, 917 00:41:29,362 --> 00:41:31,362 and it was the radio station. 918 00:41:31,406 --> 00:41:34,776 She did ski reports on the radio to earn a little money 919 00:41:34,826 --> 00:41:37,036 in the mornings, and they were asking where Lynda was. 920 00:41:37,078 --> 00:41:38,158 And I said, "I don't know. 921 00:41:38,205 --> 00:41:40,825 "She doesn't appear to have slept here." 922 00:41:40,874 --> 00:41:42,254 Her jeans were gone, 923 00:41:42,292 --> 00:41:43,792 her shoes were gone, 924 00:41:43,835 --> 00:41:46,165 but the door was unlocked. 925 00:41:46,213 --> 00:41:49,843 The side door, that I had locked on my way down. 926 00:41:49,883 --> 00:41:51,433 It didn't make sense. 927 00:41:51,468 --> 00:41:53,928 REPORTER: Lynda read the ski reports on her job. 928 00:41:53,970 --> 00:41:56,720 According to a roommate, her alarm went off on time, 929 00:41:56,765 --> 00:41:59,095 Friday morning, at 5:30. 930 00:41:59,142 --> 00:42:02,102 But her roommate says Lynda wasn't in her room 931 00:42:02,145 --> 00:42:05,315 and she never showed up for work. 932 00:42:05,357 --> 00:42:07,977 REPORTER: Is she prone to leave the house at night? 933 00:42:08,026 --> 00:42:09,276 JOANNE: Uh, no. 934 00:42:09,319 --> 00:42:11,529 She has been known to take walks now and then, 935 00:42:11,571 --> 00:42:15,121 but only when someone is with her. 936 00:42:15,158 --> 00:42:17,908 JOANNE: What I remember is having to be very insistent 937 00:42:17,953 --> 00:42:20,213 that something was wrong. 938 00:42:20,247 --> 00:42:21,497 That the police were, 939 00:42:21,539 --> 00:42:23,629 "Well, maybe she took off with a boyfriend," 940 00:42:23,667 --> 00:42:27,247 or "Maybe she's having an abortion," 941 00:42:27,295 --> 00:42:28,415 I think they said, 942 00:42:28,463 --> 00:42:31,013 which just absolutely made me crazy, 943 00:42:31,049 --> 00:42:34,389 because I knew that was not true. 944 00:42:34,427 --> 00:42:37,347 At some point, another officer came, 945 00:42:37,389 --> 00:42:40,349 and he wanted to see where her room was. 946 00:42:40,392 --> 00:42:42,852 So we went down there and he looked around, 947 00:42:42,894 --> 00:42:45,614 and her room was completely in order. 948 00:42:45,647 --> 00:42:50,187 And he pulled the bedsheet back and we saw the blood, 949 00:42:50,235 --> 00:42:52,315 so I said, "Well, maybe she had a nose bleed." 950 00:42:52,362 --> 00:42:56,122 You just want to go to a rational place. 951 00:42:56,157 --> 00:42:59,287 But it was too much blood. 952 00:42:59,327 --> 00:43:01,077 So then he looked in the closet 953 00:43:01,121 --> 00:43:05,331 and he pulled out a nightgown that had blood on it as well. 954 00:43:05,375 --> 00:43:08,245 Um, so then of course, it flashes through your mind 955 00:43:08,295 --> 00:43:13,675 that someone must have dressed her and made the bed, 956 00:43:13,717 --> 00:43:17,427 and was in the room for a while. 957 00:43:17,470 --> 00:43:22,810 And we just didn't have any real, deep sense yet 958 00:43:22,851 --> 00:43:26,691 of the horror of it. 959 00:43:26,730 --> 00:43:30,230 ♪ 960 00:43:30,275 --> 00:43:34,275 ♪ 961 00:43:34,321 --> 00:43:36,531 ♪ 962 00:43:36,573 --> 00:43:39,913 LAURA: My sister was the person who would sort of 963 00:43:39,951 --> 00:43:43,461 walk into a room and light it up. 964 00:43:43,496 --> 00:43:48,166 She was an entertainer, a performer. 965 00:43:48,209 --> 00:43:51,959 Beautiful, you know, young woman. 966 00:43:52,005 --> 00:43:55,925 ♪ 967 00:43:55,967 --> 00:43:57,387 LAURA: She was my older sister. 968 00:43:57,427 --> 00:43:58,677 She was a mentor. 969 00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:01,310 She was someone I looked up to. 970 00:44:01,348 --> 00:44:03,478 We did a lot of vacations together. 971 00:44:03,516 --> 00:44:05,636 We would go to the ocean. 972 00:44:05,685 --> 00:44:08,555 My parents had a small boat 973 00:44:08,605 --> 00:44:10,935 that the five of us and our dog would go out on, 974 00:44:10,982 --> 00:44:13,652 and she taught me to water-ski, 975 00:44:13,693 --> 00:44:17,323 and she would sing all the time. 976 00:44:17,364 --> 00:44:19,574 Walk around the house singing. 977 00:44:19,616 --> 00:44:21,736 And when she would sing a song, 978 00:44:21,785 --> 00:44:26,115 it wasn't like she... she'd just sing it once. 979 00:44:26,164 --> 00:44:28,544 You'd hear it over and over and over again. 980 00:44:28,583 --> 00:44:30,213 She's in the bathroom getting ready. 981 00:44:30,251 --> 00:44:31,631 She's walking down the hall. 982 00:44:31,669 --> 00:44:34,919 She's setting the table. 983 00:44:34,964 --> 00:44:40,974 ♪ 984 00:44:41,012 --> 00:44:46,942 ♪ 985 00:44:46,976 --> 00:44:51,306 ♪ 986 00:44:51,356 --> 00:44:54,566 ♪ 987 00:44:54,609 --> 00:44:59,909 ♪ 988 00:44:59,948 --> 00:45:03,908 ♪ 989 00:45:03,952 --> 00:45:06,542 ♪ 990 00:45:06,579 --> 00:45:10,459 LAURA: You know, she was... 991 00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:13,420 She was the star. 992 00:45:13,461 --> 00:45:15,551 ♪ 993 00:45:15,588 --> 00:45:19,718 ♪ 994 00:45:19,759 --> 00:45:23,009 ♪ 995 00:45:23,054 --> 00:45:25,974 ♪ 996 00:45:26,015 --> 00:45:29,725 [geese calling] 997 00:45:29,769 --> 00:45:32,769 ELIZABETH: It was early in 1974 when Ted started 998 00:45:32,814 --> 00:45:35,194 acting differently towards me, 999 00:45:35,233 --> 00:45:37,283 where we weren't spending as much time together 1000 00:45:37,318 --> 00:45:39,858 as we had been. 1001 00:45:39,904 --> 00:45:41,414 And he'd just like drop out of my life 1002 00:45:41,448 --> 00:45:43,578 for three days or whatever, 1003 00:45:43,616 --> 00:45:46,076 and God, I'd go back over our last conversation like, 1004 00:45:46,119 --> 00:45:49,039 "What did I say? What did I do?" 1005 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,000 This was a pattern that always made me feel like I was... 1006 00:45:53,042 --> 00:45:54,342 a shrew. 1007 00:45:54,377 --> 00:45:58,007 When we'd have a conflict, I would be really upset 1008 00:45:58,047 --> 00:45:59,547 and raising my voice, 1009 00:45:59,591 --> 00:46:02,681 and he would just get calmer and calmer. 1010 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,889 And it was just... 1011 00:46:04,929 --> 00:46:07,349 It was crazy-making. 1012 00:46:07,390 --> 00:46:09,020 MOLLY: He and my mom were not as close 1013 00:46:09,058 --> 00:46:10,228 as they had been. 1014 00:46:10,268 --> 00:46:12,648 They didn't spend as much time as they had spent. 1015 00:46:12,687 --> 00:46:14,857 He didn't come over for a really long time 1016 00:46:14,898 --> 00:46:18,398 and I thought he might not come back at all, and I... 1017 00:46:18,443 --> 00:46:21,453 I was concerned that he wasn't gonna come back at all. 1018 00:46:21,488 --> 00:46:23,908 ♪ 1019 00:46:23,948 --> 00:46:25,908 MOLLY: My mom was worried all the time, 1020 00:46:25,950 --> 00:46:31,250 and she was drinking more at that time. 1021 00:46:31,289 --> 00:46:34,459 She felt that maybe he was seeing someone else, 1022 00:46:34,501 --> 00:46:37,801 and I do remember hearing those conversations. 1023 00:46:37,837 --> 00:46:41,837 I didn't understand what was happening there, at all. 1024 00:46:41,883 --> 00:46:43,893 But I knew it wasn't like it had been. 1025 00:46:43,927 --> 00:46:46,007 ♪ 1026 00:46:46,054 --> 00:46:47,354 ELIZABETH: What I knew of 1027 00:46:47,388 --> 00:46:49,808 was men that cheat on their partners, 1028 00:46:49,849 --> 00:46:51,939 and so that's what I thought was going on. 1029 00:46:51,976 --> 00:46:55,096 That I'd become boring, that I was predictable, 1030 00:46:55,146 --> 00:46:57,476 and that I needed to be somebody else. 1031 00:46:57,524 --> 00:46:58,904 Then he'd pop back in 1032 00:46:58,942 --> 00:47:00,822 and it was like nothing ever happened. 1033 00:47:00,860 --> 00:47:02,780 ♪ 1034 00:47:02,820 --> 00:47:04,280 ELIZABETH: One day when I came home 1035 00:47:04,322 --> 00:47:05,822 and I found him inside my apartment, 1036 00:47:05,865 --> 00:47:07,325 which he didn't have a key, 1037 00:47:07,367 --> 00:47:10,037 so he had the landlord let him in... 1038 00:47:10,078 --> 00:47:12,408 He was really upset when I got home. 1039 00:47:12,455 --> 00:47:15,875 He laid down with his head on my lap and just sobbed. 1040 00:47:15,917 --> 00:47:19,457 He told me that he had to tell me something 1041 00:47:19,504 --> 00:47:20,844 that was important 1042 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,550 and that I would probably be shocked about. 1043 00:47:23,591 --> 00:47:24,841 But of course, I had no idea 1044 00:47:24,884 --> 00:47:27,354 what he was really fighting against within himself. 1045 00:47:27,387 --> 00:47:31,847 ♪ 1046 00:47:31,891 --> 00:47:36,311 ♪ 1047 00:47:36,354 --> 00:47:40,024 ♪ 1048 00:47:40,066 --> 00:47:44,196 ♪ 1049 00:47:44,237 --> 00:47:48,617 ♪ 1050 00:47:48,658 --> 00:47:52,538 ♪ 1051 00:47:52,579 --> 00:47:55,829 ♪ 1052 00:47:55,873 --> 00:47:57,673 ♪