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Well, for the first time since Thailand,
we have all 16 survivors back together.

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We are live at CBS Studios in LA, and
we're going to spend the next hour

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to the bottom of a few things.

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First, though, guys, I've got to tell
you, I've done five of these now, and I

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still can't put any rhyme or reason to
what it takes to do well in this game.

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Richard Hatch wins by controlling the
game, our first winner. Tina Wesson wins

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in Australia, basically because people
respected her, I think.

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Ethan wins because he's likable.

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Last season in the Marquesas, Pesepia
wins by flying under the radar. And this

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season, you do everything but fly under
the radar, and you win. So I still don't

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have a clue. All I know is that starting
from my first impressions, I never,

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ever would have predicted how this thing
would have turned out. Having said all

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that, Brian, congratulations.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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I will say, though, watching you out
there, I don't know what other people

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think. I think you're one of the
smartest players to play this game. And

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thought out there was that.

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You know, if your tribe were a totem
pole, the thing I thought was great is

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were never at the head of that totem
pole. But you never took control, but

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were always in control of the game. Was
that your game plan?

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Well, positive affirmations on a daily
basis really helped. And also actually

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enjoying the sort of game that you were
playing. Because every day I had to wake

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up and remind myself, this is a game.
We're not out here. We're not at Club

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We're not having waitresses bringing us
down food. We're actually playing some

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sort of game. There's no mind games out
there, but just kind of reminding

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yourself what exactly you're doing out
there, the purpose for being out there,

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confirming. Got it. Having said that,
you barely won over a guy who

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literally, and Clay, I know this is
fresh and probably hard to be sitting

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right now, but you won by one vote over
a guy who badgered three people on the

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jury and still got three of the other
four votes. You had to be a little

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surprised that you squeaked this out.

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Well, I mean, Clay, he's a very tough
competitor. No, no, no.

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We're not doing this anymore.

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What I'm getting at, let me then go to
Clay. Maybe he'll give me an answer.

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Let's think about it. You know this is
going to be the jury, right?

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You've got seven people.

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Jake, you give a tongue lashing to
before you even get to tribal council.

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He gives you a chance to get out of it.
You hit him again.

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Ted, you sort of talk around his
question. You give him an answer, but

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say, you know what, I'm done. Helen, you
flat out say, I'm not going to say

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anything to Helen because nothing's
going to satisfy you.

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I'm just thinking, you played great to
get to this point, but why didn't you

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harder at that point at the end of the
show to get one of those votes? That's a

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$900 ,000 vote.

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Well, first of all, I thought, Jake, I
mean, we're from the same part of the

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country. I mean, we have arguments every
day over different things.

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And I thought, it's done with, it's
over.

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You know, it wasn't a big... It's
something we disagreed on. You know, it

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wasn't... You really thought he was just
going to say, oh, that old play. No,

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no. I didn't think he said just that old
thing, but I didn't know he'd hold it

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in his heart like that, I guess.

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But he did. I mean, we're... He's... You
get my point, right? Yes, I understand

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your point. You got all this way, and
then you just started cutting bridges

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and right.

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I didn't.

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I didn't think I was cutting a bridge
with Jake, I can tell you that. With

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I totally don't know where he'd come up
with me saying something racist. I'm

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still, to this day, confused about that.
We'll figure that out. Helen, she was

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so mad, it wouldn't matter how I'd
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I believe her mind was already made up.

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All right.

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Brian, you had alliances deep into the
show, basically with Ted and with Helen

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and with Clay. And it was pretty clear
in your interviews in the show that you

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were going to, if you got the
opportunity, take whoever you could with

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Whichever one would benefit you best.
Why in the end did you pick Clay?

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One word, paranoia.

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Paranoia of everyone else that they
could obviously beat me along the way.

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And the fact that Clay did make a few
mistakes and he allowed himself to allow

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his emotions to take over where he
didn't think before he acted.

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Meaning Clay had more enemies?

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Correct. Correct.

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Okay. Clay had more enemies.

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All right. And guys, let's do this like
we do at Tribal Council. Give me a

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direct answer, because we only got an
hour, so we don't have to talk about it.

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Because we talked about this. It was
your wise move. You didn't pick Jan, who

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you might have liked more or thought.

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Right. You picked Clay because
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Correct. Better move.

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Just a decision you had to make out
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Ted, where did, as Clay says.

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Seemed to take him by surprise. It took
me by surprise because it never came up

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anywhere in the show. All of a sudden
you make a comment about racism. Where

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that come from? Actually, it took me by
surprise also. But it came when Helen

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and I had a conversation after Helen was
voted off.

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And we got on the subject of racism. And
I asked, well, do you know whether Clay

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has made any racist comments?

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And she told me yes.

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And I respected Helen enough to really
take that to heart.

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And since then, I mean, that was
something dear to me. And I was pissed

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because of that.

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Is it fair to make a million -dollar
vote based on hearsay?

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You know, I don't know. I don't know. I
mean, I'll be honest with you. I don't

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know. But I know for me, hearing that
comment and hearing that it came from

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Clay, a person that I thought was
totally different there and beyond that,

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really surprised me. And I took it to
heart. So I didn't really base it on

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whether or not it was hearsay or not.

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Because, Helen, you're the one who
supplied the info, and yet you're also

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same person who was – on Brian's butt
for taking something based on hearsay.

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That's the only point I'm trying to get
at is that you guys get out of the game

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and then you start talking, and how do
you know Helen doesn't have a grudge

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against Clay? I mean, she could have,
but I trusted Helen enough, and events

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leading up to that of where she heard
the comment, I kind of believed her. So

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went with what my gut told me.

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And now the bigger question.

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You're down to five.

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Jake had told you guys, it's Brian and
Clay. They're going to win this thing.

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You've got to do something.

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What was it? Why couldn't you and Helen
and Jan take one of these guys out and

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break that power link?

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I mean, for me, it was I didn't trust
Jake at that time.

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And I didn't think that we could really
get Jan in. I didn't think she was

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emotionally stable enough for us to
really negotiate that deal with her

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going to tell Clay and Brian, hey, this
is what they're trying to do.

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Jan, what about that? You had some ups
and downs out there emotionally, but

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you aware that they were trying to form
a new threesome?

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I thought I could have been a swing
vote, and I thought they would approach

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and they never did. And, of course, I
could have approached them, but I

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Helen, you just turned around and
dropped your jaw on that.

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I did approach you.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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I begged.

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I begged.

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It was our chant.

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Jan, so you lose Ted.

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Okay, you lose Ted. Now you're down to
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Do you remember the time when Brian and
Clay stood above you in a very

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intimidating pose?

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Do you remember what Brian said to you?

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That we were going to vote Helen out.

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Yeah. Yes, I do remember. Now, what was
going through your head? Why was that a

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good move for you?

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I didn't know if I wanted to go that
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I should have approached Helen and said,
Helen, let's do a tie. But we had all

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kind of agreed on that earlier, so we
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for a tie. It was an error.

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Brian's comment to you was, Jan, you're
going to get third place, and that's

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pretty good.

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Third place is $15 ,000 more than
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first. So that's the question, I guess,
I'm wondering about.

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I guess, Helen, maybe the question is to
you. How frustrating is it? Because

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you're a lame duck at that point. You
don't have that extra person you're

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supposed to have to play with.

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It was so frustrating. I mean, I love
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I really do. But that was our chance. We
could have controlled the game. We

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could control the game. We could have
gone all the way. We could have done it.

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don't know.

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I screwed up. I'm sorry. No, that's...
You know, I mean... You didn't screw up

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anything. You can play the game any way
you want.

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But we did have a chance.

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Well, now, when you saw the show,
because it is tough out there. One thing

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don't think people who haven't gone
through it can appreciate what it is

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36, 37 days with no food, in the rain,
sleeping, all this stuff.

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Do you look back on that now and think,
wow, I wish I'd have made a different

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move? Yes, I do.

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But at that point, I really felt like I
was a functioning robot.

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You know, you're just working on.

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You have nothing left.

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And so I wasn't thinking clearly. And,
yes, I do wish I'd made moves or at

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gone to talk to her one -on -one or talk
to Ted and formed an alliance.

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Helen, what was it that made you trust
Brian in the first place?

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Brian had a similar work ethic to mine.

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So I know, you know, that's... You don't
know these people. And so one or two

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days into it, I sized up quickly who was
pulling the weight in the camp and who

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was pulling their fair share.

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And he made a comment to me one time.

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We got up to pour the water that had
boiled, and we were pouring it into the

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containers. And he goes, H, I'll help
you. And I said, I got it. And he goes,

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no, no, no, I'll help you. And he got up
and he whispered in my ear, he said,

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because, you know, H, if we don't do it,
it's not going to get done.

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And it was nice to hear that somebody
was acknowledging that.

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You know, I was getting up every day and
doing everything, staying as busy as I

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could. And so was he.

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He was staying busy. Did your opinion of
him change after seeing the show? Yes,

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sir.

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Would you have changed your vote? Yes,
sir.

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Really? Yes, sir.

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Even for Clay, somebody that you seemed
to like less? That would have been

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tough.

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All right, let's recap the votes. These
are the votes we know. We saw Penny and

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Aaron voted for Clay.

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Ted and Helen voted for Brian. Here were
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And Jan and Jake both voted for Brian.

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So, Penny, what was it that made you
vote the way you did? Were you voting

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Clay or against Clay? Why'd you go with
Clay?

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I voted for Clay because I felt out of
Clay and Brian and my time out there

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them for 12 days that Clay really tried
to get to know me, and that was the

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question that I asked. I mean, he seemed
to care about me as a person and seemed

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pretty genuine about it.

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And, you know, we got along pretty well
and shared some stories, and I felt like

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we had a better connection than Brian
and I did.

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And you guys had a relationship where he
was trying to help you at a certain

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point with a vote.

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Right.

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There was a time when Clay and I
actually had a conversation about how

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the Chewy Gone members were wanting to
vote me out and some of them were

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to vote Jake out. And it would be in my
best interest to separate from Jake and

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show them that I could not have an
alliance with Jake in order to get to

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final four.

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And so I believed him.

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Clay, tell me that story. What happened
was you were setting Penny up, right?

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I wouldn't call it that. I would call it
putting somebody on the jury to vote

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for me.

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Because we were going to pick them off,
and Penny was definitely stronger. But,

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yes, I was putting her over there to
vote for me. Let me see if I got the

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right. This is what I figured out, I
think, after it was all over.

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You knew it was going to be Jake. You
knew it was going to be Penny.

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You knew you guys had enough votes for
Jake.

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So you go to Penny and you say it's
going to be Jake. Just separate yourself

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from him. You go to Brian and say,
listen, we got enough votes for Penny.

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throw one Jake's way. It'll screw up who
thinks the alliance.

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Meanwhile, telling Penny I'm voting for
Jake. So when she sees the votes after

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she's back home being voted out, she
says the only person who was honest with

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was. Right.

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I voted for who I said I was going to,
too. But I agree.

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I knew.

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She was going home. Penny, did you know
that until you saw it? No, I didn't.

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That's the rule.

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You're right.

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That's the rule. That's why you made it
to the final two. Okay, boy, it's going

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fast. Up next, some of the most
memorable moments of the season,

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one between Ted and Ganya that had
everybody talking.

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I got the feeling you're trying to get
with me. No, no.

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First of all, I don't need to get with
you. Second of all, I'm not even

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attracted to you.

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That's what crats show in every damn
thing.

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Any seat, dog?

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Woo! Mama.

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What's your name? Giddyup? Tarzan.

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I'm going. You do well.

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That's a big elephant.

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We're about 20 feet up.

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Not too high for me to jump. Me too.

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At all.

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Well, look at that.

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Well, this season was full of memorable
moments, but none of them raised more

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eyebrows or spawned more water cooler
talk than the incident with Ted and

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Gandhi. Here's the setup. We were still
early on. It was days four, five, and

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six. And this is a time in the show when
relationships are just starting to

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develop and people are beginning to
align themselves with others. And in the

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case of Ted and Gandhi, they were
forming a friendship. Here's a little

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of what they had going on.

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The longest I've ever been away from my
husband. And Ped brings that home to me.

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It's kind of like my husband's here with
me chilling. And that really made me

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feel good.

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And he's so good to hug.

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So, Gondia, at this point, things are
fine. You've got a new friend.

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Everything's all right.

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Yes.

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It was cool. We were chilling.

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Well, and you had said to me that you
even encouraged that with Ted, that it

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okay to be lovey -dovey because we're
friends and we're out here and that's

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okay. And we're both married. And, you
know, early in the game, you look for

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someone to be your homie, like someone
that's going to be down for you, that's

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not going to vote for you, you're not
going to vote for them. Early in the

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I felt that was important for me to
develop that. And it was very clear from

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there you guys were very familiar. You
had your hand and you were okay.

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And you were okay with that.

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Yeah. But at a certain point into the
night, this snuggle that you guys ended

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having that we just saw crossed into an
area that Gandhi wasn't as comfortable

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with. They wake up in the morning. This
is part of what went down.

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What was that?

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That's what crats show in every damn
day.

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When that event happened, I was waking
up.

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And for some crazy reason, I started
grinding Gondia. We talked about it, and

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said to Gondia, I am totally
apologizing. To me, I got the feeling

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trying to get with me. No. For real.
First of all, I don't need to get with

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I know you don't. Second of all, I'm not
even attracted to you.

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I am 150 to 200 % happy with the wife
that I have.

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the best lines 150 to 200 percent happy
well obviously a lot of other stuff went

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on in this time and there were some
upset feelings but what really ends up

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happening is that for the first time we
have an incident that impacts people

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outside of the game your spouses so ted
what happens when you walk in the door

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after being away you you got to tell
them actually before i even walked out

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the door as soon as i stepped off the
plane i informed my wife that You know,

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everything went fine except for this
particular incident.

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And I went into grave detail, told her
exactly what happened. And we worked

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through those emotions and we moved on.

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But you also said something interesting
to me, which is you worked through it

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and then the episode aired.

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Right. Absolutely.

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I mean, you can't really prepare for
what you actually see on television. So,

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mean, I did the best that I could do
verbally explaining what went on.

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Again, actually seeing it, it was more
of an embarrassment, and we worked

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through the embarrassment and the upset
and stuff like that.

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And you guys are okay?

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We're okay. Good. We're wonderful.

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Good.

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Ronda, you have two levels you're
playing at. One, you've got to come home

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tell your husband, hey, this is what
went down. And two, you've got to say,

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you're going to see some stuff that
looks like I was kind of encouraging it.

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-huh. Yeah.

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Very difficult. What did you say when
you got home?

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I just told my husband everything, but I
knew that when I told him what had went

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down, it would hurt him.

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That's the biggest thing I think that I
wish I could take back was hurting my

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husband and hurting Ted and his family
and his wife.

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You know, if I had a magic wand, I'd
take it all away, that whole incident.

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And that's the thing.

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Hurting my husband was, that was the
hardest part to deal with.

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And how is he with it now?

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Oh, we're cool.

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I love him.

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He's out there. He looks cool. That's my
soul man. That's my man.

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And, Ted, I know I spoke with your wife
just before this. You've got the baby.

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Everything's happy. So I'm glad that
they can understand, too, that it's a

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environment out there and things happen.

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All right. One of the other best moments
of this season, anyway, I thought,

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centered around an event that never
really happened. Here's the setup. In

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the other Survivor installments, we have
always merged the two tribes into one

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on day 17.

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So this group made the assumption that's
going to happen again.

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Day 17 rolls around, and I tell them,
okay, guys.

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The two tribes are going to be living
together on one beach. They assumed this

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meant they had merged. For Cheyenne,
this was great news because she didn't

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her old tribe, and now she can make
friends with her new tribe, and that's

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she started to do. And here's what she
found out when she discovered that her

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assumption about the merge was wrong.

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Erin, was it tough having two tribes
live together on the same beach?

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To be completely honest, no, not at all.
It's actually much better having both

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tribes live together. I never would have
expected our merge.

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It's gone as smoothly as it has.

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You said merch.

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Yes. I certainly didn't say anything to
give you that impression, did I?

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How many seconds

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before you knew you were dead?

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About .2.

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And Ken and Erin, this was a great time
for you. This was good news to you.

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Definitely. Why?

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Ken? Well, the simple fact is, we went
in here even to the same beach.

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We now had a trader, made it six votes
to four.

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She had to go. She knew she was going no
matter what. As soon as she made the

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trade, she was done.

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So when you announced that, it was like,
now you're really done and you're done

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now. I was like, I know you ain't got
nothing to do, but you ain't doing it

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here.

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All right. Well, a review of the best
moments of the season.

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would not be complete without a visit
from one of the most electric survivors

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we've ever had on the show. Rob, with
two Bs.

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You tasted it all in Thailand.

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Rob had some of the most immature
moments, I think, to probably one of the

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beautiful epiphanies. It was the total
survivor experience. Take a look at some

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of the ugly, because maybe it was ugly.

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Don't get too cute in that attack zone,
guys.

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No, no, no!

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That last time, he came at me and I put
my hands out and pushed him in.

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He's a weak little whiny punk.

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Backwoods hick.

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Did you hear him?

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Screaming at me, dude. I wanted to spit
in his face.

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So terrible.

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Rob.

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When you see that...

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When you see that now, what's your
reaction?

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Oh, man, completely embarrassed.

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I mean, there's times in my life I've
acted immature, but I've never been in

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front of 2 million people, or 20 million
people, excuse me. It was pretty

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hardcore to watch it amongst my family
and have everybody be like, were you

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choking that guy?

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And then afterwards, going on and on.

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Megan's face is acting like a doorknob.
Well, you redeemed yourself, though,

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because by the end, it seemed to me you
really had come full circle and at least

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had one moment of clarity. And it sort
of culminated with this fireside chat

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where Rob talked about his new outlook
on life. It's very nice.

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I'm starting to think about things, man.

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Life is so important right now to me.

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And family, you guys, is the most
important thing in life.

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The people you love, people who love you
just as much.

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That's what this is about.

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You guys do not understand. I didn't
have a relationship with my dad for 21

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years of my life.

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And now I miss him more than I miss
anyone. And I want to go home and tell

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how much I love him. I tell you what,
you're a good man. I like it.

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Amen, bro.

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Ross.

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Is that...

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Last thing, I mean, did it really have
an impact or did you get home and go

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to the old Rob? No, most definitely. I
had a huge impact on my life.

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I definitely got home and told my dad
how much I loved him. And I continue to

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this day.

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Really? For sure.

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And did you not have that relationship
beforehand?

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It was, we were butt and head a lot. You
know, there was a lot of conflict

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between the two of us.

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Both strong personalities.

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I'm kind of a jerk sometimes.

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I think you probably, it looks like you
grew up out there. Yeah, it was a lot of

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maturity involved in going on Survivor.
I think I grew up pretty much. All

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right. Up next, we're going to look at
judging a book by its cover. We do this

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all the time when we are casting new
Survivors, and sometimes even we get

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fooled.

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Hi, I'm Stephanie Dillon. I'm here to
tell you a little bit about myself.

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Too bad that woman never showed up.

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First, we're going to go to Clay's
hometown in Monroe, Louisiana.

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They're at a hotel restaurant.

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Some of the people showed up. They moved
from the ballroom to the holodome. And,

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Clay, all I know is I hope you weren't
counting on that million to pay for it.

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We'll be right back.

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unusual aspect of Survivor is that when
the game starts, everybody has a blank

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slate. All any of these guys know about
the others is what they can physically

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see in the attitude that they give off,
so you start to make assessments and

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judgments based on very little
information.

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We did the same thing this season with
Stephanie, who came into us, you know,

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you're strong, athletic, you're a
firefighter, but what you told us and

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believed when you came in the room was
that you were going to be a barrel of

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fun. See if you remember this audition
tape you showed us.

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Hi, I'm Stephanie Dillon. I'm here to
tell you a little bit about myself.

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Now look at you. You've got the drama
going on.

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You're funny here. Sense of humor.

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And then Stephanie.

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All right, let's get your ending here.

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You don't take me to be on your ex
-survivor.

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And you can kiss my fish.

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00:25:07,290 --> 00:25:08,950
Stephanie. Oh, my God.

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My question is obvious. Where was this
girl when the show was going on?

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Obviously, my body didn't handle food,
not eating very well. I mean, seriously,

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that's the first time I've ever been
limited physically in my life. I mean,

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kicked my butt because that is me, and I
disappointed so many people.

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You know, family, friends, the people
that chose me for one of those 16 slots.

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You know, so it's been really hard for
me to deal with it. I could not bring

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Stephanie Deal in everyday life to
Thailand.

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It was very, very hard.

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Did you take anything away from that
experience?

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You know, I really did. First off, I
made great friends that, you know,

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friendships that will last me a
lifetime.

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But you personally?

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Yeah. I never thought about having kids
before.

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Those 15 days that I spent. And even
more importantly, what I'm getting at is

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what you told me earlier, which I
thought was interesting, that you'll

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ever let yourself down again like that.
No, I won't. I'll never let myself down.

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And I know now that I want children.

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So it was a wonderful experience for me.

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There's so much more to the game than
money. And I'm a person that never

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about money anyway.

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Erin, we're talking about overcoming
stereotypes in one sense and judging a

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by its cover and things like that.

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This has to happen to you all the time.

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I mean, we've got some tape, in fact, of
you from the show. You were the

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survivor hot chick this season, for
sure.

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And did you know going into this game
that you were going to have to this kind

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of stuff here, that you were going to
have to overcome a perception that

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would be making?

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I figured that I was.

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Basically, I had to go in and prove to
everyone that I was a hard worker and

444
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,540
that I wasn't just a girl with the big
boobs that was going to slide by on

445
00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:42,900
And in fact.

446
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,720
You started covering up early on, didn't
you? After day four, I believe, I no

447
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,680
longer wore my bikini top. I only wore
my sports bra because I was afraid that

448
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,940
wearing my top was going to work against
me in the game.

449
00:26:55,180 --> 00:26:58,820
Proud of how you did? Do you think you
broke that stereotype? I think I did

450
00:26:58,820 --> 00:26:59,739
break the stereotype.

451
00:26:59,740 --> 00:27:03,660
I made it a lot further than I think
anyone ever expected me to. I worked

452
00:27:03,660 --> 00:27:07,920
hard, and in the end, people look at me
as a well -liked player, someone that

453
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,320
worked really hard, not the...

454
00:27:09,740 --> 00:27:10,760
Hot chick with a big boo.

455
00:27:11,300 --> 00:27:12,420
Or maybe both.

456
00:27:13,140 --> 00:27:14,140
Jed.

457
00:27:16,740 --> 00:27:23,080
Jed, I think it's fair to say, even in
respect to Ken and Rob and Big Ted and

458
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,700
Brian, you were one of the strongest, if
not the strongest out there, very

459
00:27:26,700 --> 00:27:30,880
competitive, and you were playing full
tilt boogie, and yet you're an instant

460
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,900
outcast. Just as we're going to this
break, tell me what happened out there,

461
00:27:34,900 --> 00:27:36,920
did you learn anything from how the
tribe treated you?

462
00:27:37,310 --> 00:27:38,310
I learned a lot.

463
00:27:38,770 --> 00:27:43,930
Basically, it's like in life. When you
join a new group, all of a sudden you've

464
00:27:43,930 --> 00:27:46,890
got to fly below the radar or you're a
target.

465
00:27:47,150 --> 00:27:51,610
And so what I did is I didn't fly as low
as everyone else on my tribe, which was

466
00:27:51,610 --> 00:27:52,610
a pretty low radar.

467
00:27:53,290 --> 00:27:55,390
So sticking out like a sore thumb a
little bit.

468
00:27:56,090 --> 00:28:01,430
Yeah, basically I let myself show in
competitions and joined up with other

469
00:28:01,430 --> 00:28:04,130
athletic people that weren't flying
below the radar. I don't know if you

470
00:28:04,130 --> 00:28:08,090
this, but just as we go to break,
Sheehan, how badly did you guys want to

471
00:28:08,090 --> 00:28:11,210
rid of Jed? We wanted to get rid of him
so badly that we threw the challenge.

472
00:28:11,490 --> 00:28:12,469
The pyramid challenge.

473
00:28:12,470 --> 00:28:13,470
Yep. Did you know that?

474
00:28:13,930 --> 00:28:18,890
Well, I kind of figured it out when Ken
was sitting out, and I wasn't going to

475
00:28:18,890 --> 00:28:19,569
give up, though.

476
00:28:19,570 --> 00:28:20,970
Okay. All right.

477
00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:24,540
Boy, this is moving so fast. We've got
to go again. Coming up next, we're going

478
00:28:24,540 --> 00:28:28,560
to show you where Survivor's going next.
But first, some of Jan's colleagues are

479
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,320
in Tampa, Florida. Where else would they
be? They're at a pub.

480
00:28:31,660 --> 00:28:32,660
Take a look.

481
00:29:21,870 --> 00:29:23,730
and it's a good thing. Yes, yes.

482
00:29:24,570 --> 00:29:28,350
Survivor Thailand is over, but a new
survivor adventure is about to begin in

483
00:29:28,350 --> 00:29:32,690
February. 16 new survivors will be
abandoned in one of the most mysterious

484
00:29:32,690 --> 00:29:34,610
places on Earth. Take a look.

485
00:29:40,270 --> 00:29:45,950
It is the largest rainforest on Earth.
It is responsible for 15 % of the

486
00:29:45,950 --> 00:29:50,930
oxygen. And it is without question one
of the most mysterious places on the

487
00:29:50,930 --> 00:29:53,500
planet. It is the Amazon.

488
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,260
Spanning two and a half million square
miles, the Amazon is home to more

489
00:30:01,260 --> 00:30:06,100
varieties of fish, plant life, and birds
than anywhere else in the world. Some

490
00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:09,260
of the most beautiful and unique animals
thrive in this rainforest.

491
00:30:09,620 --> 00:30:12,860
The pink dolphin, the tapir, and the
sloth.

492
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,980
Push deeper into this impenetrable
jungle and you'll find some of the most

493
00:30:16,980 --> 00:30:18,460
dangerous animals as well.

494
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:24,330
Caiman crocodiles, piranhas, and the
world's most feared snake, the anaconda.

495
00:30:25,990 --> 00:30:30,750
Soon, 16 strangers will be abandoned in
this oppressive and harsh environment.

496
00:30:31,450 --> 00:30:35,650
Torrential thunderstorms will rock this
jungle, and scorching temperatures will

497
00:30:35,650 --> 00:30:37,450
test our survivors like never before.

498
00:30:37,710 --> 00:30:41,970
And this time, the game will have a
twist unlike anything you've ever seen.

499
00:30:42,890 --> 00:30:46,550
How will these 16 strangers survive in
this environment?

500
00:30:46,890 --> 00:30:50,310
And the bigger question, how will they
survive each other?

501
00:30:50,890 --> 00:30:52,610
It is the ultimate challenge.

502
00:30:53,330 --> 00:30:59,550
Outwit, outplay, outlast, until only one
remains and emerges as the sole

503
00:30:59,550 --> 00:31:00,550
survivor.

504
00:31:07,610 --> 00:31:10,070
This is going to be very cool, but
that's later.

505
00:31:10,570 --> 00:31:14,090
Guys, we're running out of time tonight,
but there's just three things that I

506
00:31:14,090 --> 00:31:16,990
quickly wanted to ask you about, and
they'll just be short answers, but

507
00:31:16,990 --> 00:31:18,130
so many good stories. Jake.

508
00:31:18,620 --> 00:31:22,000
The best moments, I think, one of the
best moments is the loved one visit.

509
00:31:22,460 --> 00:31:26,820
And when Jenny came out there, and I
talked to you about it afterwards, and

510
00:31:26,820 --> 00:31:29,900
told me a great story about how that was
the best moment and the worst moment at

511
00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:33,860
the same time. Oh, my gosh. Five to one
against me. I'm down. I'm hungry. I'm

512
00:31:33,860 --> 00:31:38,080
tired. She walks out. I'm on the highest
of high planes, just totally.

513
00:31:38,300 --> 00:31:39,420
She eats the bugs.

514
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:45,740
And then she walks off without, you
know, and I'm at the lowest of lows in

515
00:31:45,740 --> 00:31:47,560
world. Two days later.

516
00:31:48,030 --> 00:31:49,030
There she is again.

517
00:31:49,210 --> 00:31:53,870
And at that time, I am totally
convinced, because she ate all those

518
00:31:54,030 --> 00:31:55,430
that I can whip Ted.

519
00:31:55,690 --> 00:31:58,590
I can do anything, man. I'm ready for
the challenge.

520
00:31:58,850 --> 00:32:01,870
And you said, hey, they're still here.

521
00:32:02,090 --> 00:32:07,090
She walks back out, and what do I do? I
just melt right into mush, man.

522
00:32:07,650 --> 00:32:11,230
You know, it's about love. That's what
it's about.

523
00:32:11,510 --> 00:32:12,510
Thanks for sharing that.

524
00:32:13,050 --> 00:32:15,390
Tanya, hard transition here.

525
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,020
You had a tough first few days out there
as part of the show.

526
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,740
You had a much, much tougher end to the
show.

527
00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:24,360
Guys, it's 36, 37 days.

528
00:32:24,740 --> 00:32:28,220
Tanya's out of the game, but she's still
on the island, and you get some very

529
00:32:28,220 --> 00:32:29,220
sad news.

530
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,080
And I just wanted to check in with you
about it. Tell us what happened.

531
00:32:32,740 --> 00:32:36,820
Well, actually, it'll be very emotional
to talk about that. I actually got a

532
00:32:36,820 --> 00:32:39,880
call from my mother that my father had
died.

533
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,560
And the upside to that story that you
told me, and I thought was so

534
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:52,120
was that you had a goodbye party when
you were leaving to come do Survivor.

535
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,340
you guys had some family business that
hadn't been resolved.

536
00:32:54,700 --> 00:32:58,020
And tell us what happened when you had
the goodbye party before you left.

537
00:32:58,580 --> 00:33:01,420
Well, what had happened, like my parents
had gotten divorced when I was a

538
00:33:01,420 --> 00:33:07,700
freshman in high school. So about like
10 years ago, my sister and my dad kind

539
00:33:07,700 --> 00:33:10,860
of had conflict with it and just hadn't
spoken in 10 years.

540
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,980
So when I got selected for the show, My
sister and them throw me a going -away

541
00:33:14,980 --> 00:33:17,100
party, and I was so shocked that she
invited my dad.

542
00:33:17,620 --> 00:33:22,080
So had I not been selected for Survivor,
they would have never talked. So it was

543
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,300
like even though I lost, I was a winner,
you know, before I even left.

544
00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:33,560
We've got a little bit more to do. We're
going to take a break, and we'll be

545
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:34,560
right back.

546
00:34:07,530 --> 00:34:08,949
We didn't get a lot of time to talk.

547
00:34:09,210 --> 00:34:14,010
Without question, the most capable,
strongest, biggest threat person ever

548
00:34:14,010 --> 00:34:14,828
out first.

549
00:34:14,830 --> 00:34:17,830
And I just want to, I know that if you
got another shot at this, you'd do a lot

550
00:34:17,830 --> 00:34:18,870
better. You doing okay, though?

551
00:34:19,230 --> 00:34:22,429
Absolutely. You know, I think I just
left the wrong impression. I wanted to

552
00:34:22,429 --> 00:34:25,850
leave the impression I'm working hard
and I'll do anything to help the tribe.

553
00:34:25,929 --> 00:34:28,650
And I think the impression that I left
was I was a little too aggressive and

554
00:34:28,650 --> 00:34:29,650
that was a threat early on.

555
00:34:29,969 --> 00:34:33,190
Well, thanks for being here. Guys,
everybody here, thank you very much.

556
00:34:33,710 --> 00:34:35,429
Here's a couple of bits of information.

557
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:40,860
If you're a fan of the show, immediately
following tonight's broadcast, you can

558
00:34:40,860 --> 00:34:45,580
go to eBay .com and auction. There's all
kinds of items there. All of their

559
00:34:45,580 --> 00:34:49,580
torches are there. The urn with all the
votes back here is going to be up for

560
00:34:49,580 --> 00:34:53,520
bid. So if you want to do that, it
benefits the Elizabeth Glazer Pediatric

561
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,000
Foundation. It is a great cause.

562
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,060
Also, so that's eBay .com.

563
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,920
Also, we're looking for people for
Survivor 7. So go to CBS .com on that.

564
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,860
let me give you a tip. It's a little
cryptic.

565
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,680
Study John Nash's.

566
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,820
non -cooperative game -playing theory.
All the answers to Survivor are there.

567
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,000
So for you fanatics, get on the
Internet.

568
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,800
All right, tomorrow morning on the early
show, we're going to be giving this man

569
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,840
right here, Brian, a million bucks. Let
me say, very well -deserved.

570
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:20,920
Congratulations.

571
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,660
We had a good time out there. Thanks for
doing this tonight, and thanks for

572
00:35:31,660 --> 00:35:34,440
rushing through it with me. I know it
went a lot quicker than we thought it

573
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:35,098
going to be.

574
00:35:35,100 --> 00:35:38,980
That's it. We're back on in February
with Survivor the Amazon.

575
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,260
Thank you for staying with us tonight,
and we'll see you soon.

576
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:43,520
So long, guys.

