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[percussion]

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- I MAINTAIN

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THAT MY BOSTON CELTICS

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WERE THE GREATEST TEAM
TO EVER PLAY BASKETBALL.

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COUPLE OF REASONS.
FIRST OF ALL,

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WE WON THE NBA CHAMPIONSHIP

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EIGHT STRAIGHT TIMES.

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AND TO START THAT STREAK,

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I HAD FOUR GUARDS,

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FOUR FORWARDS,
AND TWO CENTERS.

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ALL FOUR OF MY GUARDS
ARE IN THE HALL OF FAME.

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- WELL, YOU HAD A GREAT RUN,

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THERE'S NO QUESTION
ABOUT THAT,

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BUT NONE OF THOSE CELTICS TEAMS

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COULD HAVE BEATEN
THE CHICAGO BULLS IN '95-'96.

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- EXCUSE ME.
- YEAH.

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- THAT CHICAGO BULLS TEAM
THAT WAS VERY GOOD?

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- IT WAS EXCELLENT.
- THEY WERE VERY GOOD.

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- BEST OF ALL TIME.

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- WELL, I DON'T THINK SO.

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- REMEMBER, WE HAD
THE BEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME.

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- I COULD MATCH HIM.

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I COULD MATCH HIM.

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[laughter]

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- WELL, YOU PROBABLY
COULD HAVE MATCHED

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ANY MORTAL PLAYER.

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BUT YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT SUPERMAN HERE.

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I DON'T EVEN THINK
THE GREAT BILL RUSSELL

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COULD HAVE MATCHED
MICHAEL JORDAN.

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- OH, WRONG.

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[laughter]

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- YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN GUARDING
ONE OF OUR MEDIOCRE CENTERS.

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- IN THE PLAYOFFS--

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- THEY WERE VERY MEDIOCRE
BACK WHEN.

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- LET ME ASK YOU THIS, BILL.

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WHAT ARE YOU GUYS
TALKING ABOUT--

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THE GREATEST TEAM,
THE GREATEST PLAYER

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OR THE GREATEST--
GREATEST RECORDS?

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- NO, WE'RE TALKING
THE GREATEST TEAM.

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- THE TEAM
THAT HAS WON MORE GAMES

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THAN ANY OTHER TEAM
IN THE WORLD,

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THAT'S THE HARLEM GLOBETROTTERS.

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YOU CAN'T DENY THAT,

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BECAUSE, ALL OVER THE WORLD,

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IT INTRODUCED THE GAME
OF BASKETBALL REALLY

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TO THE WORLD
ABOVE AND BEYOND

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THE UNITED STATES.

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SO THERE'S NO OTHER TEAM
ANY GREATER

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THAN THE GLOBETROTTERS
HAVE BEEN

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AND THEY CONTINUE TO BE.

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- I USED TO LOVE TO WATCH
THE GLOBETROTTERS PLAY.

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I GREW UP IN A LITTLE TOWN
IN WEST VIRGINIA,

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AND YOU USED TO GO
TO CHARLESTON

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WHEN THEY CAME INTO TOWN.

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THEY WERE REALLY FUN
TO PLAY,

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BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE--

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THE COACH OF THE WASHINGTON
NATIONALS, RED KLOTZ,

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HE PROBABLY HAD THE WORST RECORD
THAT EVER IN THE HISTORY--

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[laughter]

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AND I WOULD SAY TO YOU
THAT MAYBE YOUR COMPETITION

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WASN'T AS GOOD.

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AND, BILL,
YOUR CELTIC TEAMS WERE GREAT,

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JERRY, MICHAEL JORDAN
IS AN INCREDIBLE PLAYER

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AND YOUR TEAM HAD A GREAT RUN,

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BUT MY CHOICE
FOR THE GREATEST LAKER TEAMS

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WERE THE '80-'85 TEAMS.

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I THINK THEY'RE THE GREATEST
TEAMS OF ALL TIME.

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THE EXPANSION DILUTED THE TALENT
IN BASKETBALL.

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BUT IF YOU LOOK
AT THIS LAKER TEAM,

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IT WAS AN ALL-STAR TEAM

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FROM ONE TO SEVEN.

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AND EVERY YEAR, IT SEEMED
LIKE WE WOULD COME ALONG

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AND HAVE--
BE ABLE TO ACQUIRE SOMEONE

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THAT WOULD MAKE US BETTER.

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YOU TALKED
ABOUT THE BULLS CENTER.

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WHAT DID THEY CALLED IT?
BY COMMITTEE?

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- THE THREE-HEADED MONSTER.

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- WELL, LISTEN,
THIS IS A ONE-HEADED MONSTER

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WOULD HAVE KILLED THREE OF THEM,
OKAY?

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- [laughs]

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- AND, JAMES WORTHY--

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SCOTTIE PIPPEN
WAS A GREAT DEFENDER.

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HE COULD NOT GUARD JAMES WORTHY.
THERE'S NO WAY.

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AND MAGIC JOHNSON,
HE WAS GONNA DO HIS THING.

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- SCOTTIE GUARDED MAGIC JOHNSON
PRETTY WELL.

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- WELL, HE DID IN THE PLAYOFF,
BUT THIS WAS

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WHEN MAGIC JOHNSON
WAS A LITTLE BIT OLDER

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AND DIDN'T HAVE THIS GENTLEMAN,
MR. JABBAR HERE, WITH HIM.

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BUT THOSE ARE THE GREATEST TEAMS
I'VE EVER SEEN.

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THEY COULD WIN ANY WAY,
JUST AS A BULLS TEAM,

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JUST AS A CELTICS TEAM.

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HEY, WAIT A MINUTE.
WAIT A MINUTE.

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- THEY WERE REALLY GOOD,
OKAY?

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- THEY WERE REALLY GOOD.

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AND YOU GUYS WERE GOOD TOO,

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BECAUSE I KNEW
YOU KICKED OUR ASSES

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ALL THE TIME.
- THEY WERE REALLY GOOD.

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THAT'S THE ONLY TEAM
THAT MADE ME NERVOUS.

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- HOW ARE YOU GONNA GUARD HIM?

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- LISTEN...
[laughter]

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- I WANT TO HEAR THIS ONE.

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YOU KNOW,
HE'S SITTING RIGHT HERE

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IN YOUR PRESENCE.
- OKAY.

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- I WANT TO SEE THIS ONE.

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- I WOULD WATCH HIM PLAY.

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THE THIRD TIME I PLAYED HIM,
I WOULD KNOW

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HOW TO GUARD HIM.

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- WELL, HE HAD
THE GREATEST SHOT

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EVER IN BASKETBALL.
- THE SKYHOOK?

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- NO, YOU COULD NOT BOTHER THAT.

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TRUST ME.
AS GREAT AS YOU WERE,

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AS GREAT AS YOU WERE--
AND, LISTEN,

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YOU WERE ONE
OF MY FAVORITE PEOPLE--

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- I WOULD NEVER BLOCK
OVER SIX OF THOSE A GAME.

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- OH, YOU WOULD--
[laughter]

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HOLD ON NOW.

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YOU WOULD NOT TOUCH THAT SHOT.

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YOU WOULD NOT TOUCH
THAT SHOT.

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THERE'S NO WAY.

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NO ONE BLOCKS HIS SHOT.

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- FORTUNATE FOR ME,

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I NEVER HAD TO PLAY HIM.

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- THANK GOD.

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[laughter]

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- IN SOME WAYS,
I DO AGREE WITH JERRY.

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YOU KNOW,
'CAUSE I'M TRUE BLUE LAKERS,

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AND WE HAD
SOME WONDERFUL TEAMS.

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BUT I WANT TO TELL YOU GUYS
ABOUT THE BEST TEAM

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YOU NEVER HEARD OF.

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* IT'S BASKETBALL SOUL

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* HARLEM, SON

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* SECOND TO NONE

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*

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* ON THE SHOULDERS
OF GIANTS *

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* COME ON

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* HARLEM, SON

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* SECOND TO NONE

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* COME ON

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*

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* SECOND TO NONE

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*

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* UPTOWN

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* SWINGING UP THE TOWN

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* COME ON

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* IT'S LIKE A JAZZ FORCE

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*

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* GET WRECKIN'

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[record needle scratching]

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* HIT ME

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*

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* UH

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* OUTSIDE THE STREET

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*

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* GOAL

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* WHAT?

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*

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* BASKETBALL SOUL

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* FEELING GOLD

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* LET'S GO

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* ON THE SHOULDERS
OF GIANTS *

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THE STORY OF THE GREATEST TEAM
YOU'VE NEVER HEARD OF.

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* COME ON

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*

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- TODAY WE CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE
SPORTS WITHOUT BLACK ATHLETES.

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NEARLY 79% OF PLAYERS

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WHO GIVE THE NBA
ITS ENORMOUS STAR POWER

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ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR.

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BUT IN THE EARLY DAYS
OF BASKETBALL,

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THE NUMBER OF BLACK PLAYERS
ALLOWED TO COMPETE

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FOR NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS
WAS ZERO.

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- * COME ON

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*

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- I FIND IT REALLY HARD
TO BELIEVE

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THAT NBA PLAYERS TODAY
ARE NOT AWARE OF THE FACT

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THAT THE NBA,
WHEN IT STARTED,

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WAS SEGREGATED.
[whistle blows]

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[cheers and applause]

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- THESE YOUNG GUYS THINK

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THEY MAKE $20 MILLION A YEAR

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'CAUSE THEY CAN PLAY.

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THEY WERE JUST BORN
AT THE RIGHT TIME.

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- WHEN I CAME UP,
THEY SAID YOU'RE GONNA BE

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THE FIRST BLACK GUY
IN THE BASKETBALL HALL OF FAME.

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I WAS IMMENSELY INSULTED.

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BECAUSE ALL THE PLAYERS
THAT PLAYED FOR THE RENS

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THAT I KNEW
AND KNEW OF,

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THEY JUST BRUSHED 'EM ASIDE.

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SO TO ME,
TO GO INTO A PLACE

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WHERE THEY HAD JUST BRUSHED
THESE GREAT PLAYERS ASIDE

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AND SAID,
"WELL, WE'LL ACCEPT YOU,"

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WELL, I WON'T ACCEPT YOU.

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- I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT

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FOR TODAY'S PLAYERS

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TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT WASN'T
ALWAYS LIKE THIS.

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- * WHOA, LORD

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* GIVE ME MORE TIME

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* TO PRAY

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- BLACKS WERE AT THE BOTTOM
OF THE SOCIAL LADDER.

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AND BEING FEWER IN NUMBER
THAN WHITES,

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THEY WERE ALSO ISOLATED

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THROUGHOUT A VAST,
MOSTLY WHITE COUNTRY.

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LYNCHING WAS STILL
A POPULAR METHOD OF STOPPING

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ANY NOTION OF INTEGRATION.

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OVER 2,500 BLACKS
HAD BEEN LYNCHED,

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MOSTLY IN SOUTHERN COMMUNITIES.

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- ONE OF MY FATHER'S FRIENDS

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WAS ACCUSED OF LOOKING
THE WRONG WAY

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AT A WHITE WOMAN.

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NOW, THE CULTURE OF THE SOUTH

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IN THAT PERIOD
WAS WHITE MEN HAD TO AVENGE

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THIS INSULTED WHITE WOMAN.

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SO THEY PICKED AT RANDOM

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ANY BLACK
TO MAKE AN EXAMPLE.

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AND THEY LYNCHED
MY FATHER'S GOOD FRIEND.

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THEY HAD A MASS CELEBRATION,

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WITH CHILDREN AND ALL,

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AND THEN THEY BURNED
HIS BODY

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AND SOLD THE BONES
OF THE BEAST.

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THAT WAS NOT UNUSUAL.

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- LYNCHINGS WERE HAPPENING,

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AND CHURCH BURNINGS
WERE GOING ON.

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WE REALLY HAD NOTHING.

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- EVERYTHING YOU DID
FROM DAWN TO DUSK,

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YOU HAD TO DEAL
WITH SOME ASPECT

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OF RACISM
AND INSTITUTIONALIZED BIGOTRY

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CONSTRICTING YOUR LIFE.

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- THERE IS A SAYING THAT,

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IF YOU'RE LIGHT,
YOU'RE ALL RIGHT,

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IF YOU'RE BROWN,
STICK AROUND,

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BUT IF YOU'RE BLACK,
GET BACK,

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GET BACK,
GET BACK.

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- BEFORE BLACK PEOPLE
COULD PROVE THEIR WORTH

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IN ANY ARENA,
INCLUDING SPORTS,

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THEY WOULD HAVE
TO FIND EACH OTHER,

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AND THEY DID IT HERE.

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- FROM GENERATIONS
OF POETS,

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THE FIRST TO THE LAST...

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- THAT'S RIGHT.
- HARLEM HAS INSURED

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HER FUTURE
FROM A GLORIOUS PAST.

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- WRITER WALLACE THURMAN
SAID, "THE SIGHT OF HARLEM

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GIVES ANY NEGRO A FEELING
OF GREAT SECURITY."

242
00:09:09,316 --> 00:09:10,751
IT WAS,
IF NOT HEAVEN,

243
00:09:10,818 --> 00:09:12,986
THEN PRETTY DARN CLOSE...

244
00:09:13,020 --> 00:09:15,322
FROM HAMILTON HEIGHTS
TO THE STRIVERS' ROW

245
00:09:15,355 --> 00:09:18,091
TO SUGAR HILL,
WHERE THE HARLEM DICTIES LIVED.

246
00:09:20,828 --> 00:09:22,362
- WELL, HERE WE ARE

247
00:09:22,429 --> 00:09:25,365
COMING TO THAT WORLD-FAMOUS
WHAT?

248
00:09:25,398 --> 00:09:27,100
SUGAR HILL.
- SUGAR HILL.

249
00:09:27,167 --> 00:09:28,702
SUGAR HILL.
- YUP.

250
00:09:28,769 --> 00:09:30,170
- OH, YEAH.

251
00:09:30,203 --> 00:09:33,607
- THIS WAS, LIKE, SOME PLACE
THAT PEOPLE CAME

252
00:09:33,674 --> 00:09:35,709
TO SHOW THAT THEY HAD MADE IT.

253
00:09:35,776 --> 00:09:39,046
- OH, YES, BUT, NO,
THIS WAS THE BLACK MIDDLE CLASS

254
00:09:39,079 --> 00:09:40,080
ACHIEVEMENT, ACCOMPLISHMENT,

255
00:09:40,113 --> 00:09:41,715
BLACK SOPHISTICATION,

256
00:09:41,782 --> 00:09:43,416
AND BLACK REFINEMENT.

257
00:09:43,450 --> 00:09:45,118
NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

258
00:09:45,185 --> 00:09:46,854
NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

259
00:09:51,091 --> 00:09:54,061
- HAVE YOU DUG THE SPILL
OF SUGAR HILL?

260
00:09:54,094 --> 00:09:56,930
CAST YOUR GIMS
ON THIS SEPIA THRILL:

261
00:09:56,964 --> 00:10:01,134
BROWN SUGAR LASS,
CARAMEL TREAT,

262
00:10:01,201 --> 00:10:04,204
HONEY-GOLD BABY
SWEET ENOUGH TO EAT.

263
00:10:04,271 --> 00:10:08,108
PEACH-SKINNED GIRL,
COFFEE AND CREAM,

264
00:10:08,141 --> 00:10:10,043
CHOCOLATE DARLING
OUT OF A DREAM.

265
00:10:10,077 --> 00:10:13,714
WALNUT TINTED,
COCOA BROWN,

266
00:10:13,747 --> 00:10:16,917
POMEGRANATE
PRIDE IN TOWN.

267
00:10:16,984 --> 00:10:21,822
RICH CREAM-COLORED,
PLUM-TINTED BLACK,

268
00:10:21,822 --> 00:10:24,658
FEMININE SWEETNESS
IS NOT HARLEM'S LACK.

269
00:10:24,725 --> 00:10:28,729
FROM THE GLOW OF THE QUINCE
TO THE BLUSH OF THE ROSE.

270
00:10:28,762 --> 00:10:33,400
PERSIMMON BRONZE,
CINNAMON TOES.

271
00:10:33,433 --> 00:10:39,106
GINGER, WINE-GOLD,
PLUM-BLUE, BLACKBERRY,

272
00:10:39,139 --> 00:10:41,809
ALL FROM THE SPECTRUM
HARLEM FOLKS VARY--

273
00:10:41,842 --> 00:10:45,445
SO IF YOU WANT TO KNOW
BEAUTY'S RAINBOW-SWEET THRILL,

274
00:10:45,512 --> 00:10:49,182
STROLL WITH ME DOWN LUSCIOUS,
HEY, DELICIOUS,

275
00:10:49,182 --> 00:10:52,686
HEY, FINE SUGAR HILL.

276
00:10:56,790 --> 00:11:00,027
- NEW YORK WAS NOT JUST

277
00:11:00,093 --> 00:11:02,029
A CITY LIKE ANY OTHER CITY.

278
00:11:02,095 --> 00:11:05,032
IT WAS THE MAJOR METROPOLIS

279
00:11:05,098 --> 00:11:07,968
OF THE COUNTRY.

280
00:11:08,035 --> 00:11:10,037
AND SO NOT ONLY DID YOU HAVE

281
00:11:10,037 --> 00:11:12,205
HUGE NUMBERS
OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS

282
00:11:12,272 --> 00:11:14,942
COMING NORTH AND SETTLING

283
00:11:15,008 --> 00:11:18,011
IN WHAT THEY HAD HEARD ABOUT
AS REALLY THE MECCA,

284
00:11:18,045 --> 00:11:19,512
THE HEAVEN,

285
00:11:19,546 --> 00:11:21,849
THAT WAS HARLEM...

286
00:11:21,882 --> 00:11:25,385
- I THINK OF AN AREA OF ALMOST
A UTOPIA OF BLACK AMERICA,

287
00:11:25,452 --> 00:11:27,187
YOU KNOW,
BACK WHERE, MAN,

288
00:11:27,220 --> 00:11:28,388
IF YOU CAN GET TO HARLEM,

289
00:11:28,488 --> 00:11:29,322
THERE ARE SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES,

290
00:11:29,356 --> 00:11:32,826
SO MANY THINGS
THAT YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH.

291
00:11:35,162 --> 00:11:37,497
AND FOR A RACE OF PEOPLE

292
00:11:37,564 --> 00:11:39,499
FOR SO LONG
WHO HAD BEEN OPPRESSED

293
00:11:39,532 --> 00:11:41,534
AND HELD DOWN
TO KNOW THAT THERE'S A PLACE

294
00:11:41,568 --> 00:11:43,536
WHERE WE CAN GO
TO HAVE THESE OUTLETS,

295
00:11:43,570 --> 00:11:48,842
TO SEE OTHER PEOPLE
OF COLOR SUCCEEDING...

296
00:11:48,876 --> 00:11:52,846
- IT DIDN'T SINK INTO ME
THE IMPORTANCE OF HARLEM

297
00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,215
AS A CENTER POINT
TO BLACK CULTURE

298
00:11:55,248 --> 00:11:57,517
TILL WAY LATER
AS A TEENAGER.

299
00:11:57,550 --> 00:11:59,419
AND YOU START LOOKING
AT BUILDINGS DIFFERENT,

300
00:11:59,486 --> 00:12:03,156
AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW,
OH, MAN, THIS IS A OLD BUILDING.

301
00:12:03,223 --> 00:12:06,894
THIS WHOLE TERRITORY WAS THE
CENTER OF THE BLACK UNIVERSE.

302
00:12:06,927 --> 00:12:10,330
- ARTISTIC EXPRESSION
WAS AT AN ALL-TIME HIGH.

303
00:12:10,397 --> 00:12:13,033
THERE WERE ALL KINDS OF ARTISTS
OUT THERE.

304
00:12:13,066 --> 00:12:14,267
THERE WERE ACTORS,
THERE WERE MUSICIANS,

305
00:12:14,334 --> 00:12:15,502
THERE WERE SINGERS.

306
00:12:15,568 --> 00:12:17,070
THERE WAS SCULPTORS,
PAINTERS,

307
00:12:17,104 --> 00:12:19,439
CHARLES GILPIN
WAS ON BROADWAY...

308
00:12:19,506 --> 00:12:21,241
THE PRECURSOR
TO WHO WE ARE NOW,

309
00:12:21,274 --> 00:12:23,210
ME AND DENZEL
AND ALL THOSE OTHER PEOPLE.

310
00:12:28,081 --> 00:12:29,549
- FOR WHITE AMERICANS,

311
00:12:29,582 --> 00:12:32,419
IT WAS HOLLYWOOD,

312
00:12:32,452 --> 00:12:35,255
AND FOR US, YOU KNOW,
TO MAKE IT,

313
00:12:35,288 --> 00:12:37,090
YOU HAD TO GET
TO HARLEM.

314
00:12:44,965 --> 00:12:46,466
- THE HARLEM RENAISSANCE

315
00:12:46,566 --> 00:12:48,368
WAS ONE
OF INTELLECTUAL BREAKTHROUGH,

316
00:12:48,401 --> 00:12:49,903
OF ARTISTIC BREAKTHROUGH,

317
00:12:49,970 --> 00:12:52,940
BUT ALSO ONE IN WHICH SPORTS
WAS CENTRAL.

318
00:12:52,973 --> 00:12:54,407
- YES.
- BECAUSE, SEE, THE HISTORY

319
00:12:54,441 --> 00:12:57,945
OF BLACK PEOPLE WAS SUCH
THAT, FOR 244 YEARS,

320
00:12:57,978 --> 00:13:00,313
ALL WE HAD WAS OUR VOICES
AND OUR BODIES.

321
00:13:00,380 --> 00:13:01,915
WE HAD NO LAND,
NO TERRITORY,

322
00:13:01,982 --> 00:13:03,984
WE HAD NO RIGHTS,
WE HAD NO LIBERTY.

323
00:13:03,984 --> 00:13:06,586
SO ALL OF OUR FREEDOM,
ALL OF OUR SELF-DETERMINATION

324
00:13:06,653 --> 00:13:09,156
WAS IN OUR VOICES,
IS ONE REASON WHY THE ANTHEM

325
00:13:09,156 --> 00:13:10,958
OF BLACK PEOPLE
IS LIFT EVERY VOICE.

326
00:13:10,991 --> 00:13:12,993
AND WE HAD OUR BODIES.

327
00:13:13,093 --> 00:13:15,929
SO WE COULD USE OUR BODIES
TO STYLIZE SPACE AND TIME--

328
00:13:15,996 --> 00:13:17,497
THE WAY WE WALK,
THE WAY WE TALK.

329
00:13:20,433 --> 00:13:22,135
- IT WAS TIME TO REDEFINE

330
00:13:22,169 --> 00:13:24,337
WHO WE ARE

331
00:13:24,404 --> 00:13:25,472
AS DESCENDANTS OF SLAVES

332
00:13:25,505 --> 00:13:27,340
STOLEN FROM MOTHER AFRICA.

333
00:13:27,407 --> 00:13:29,309
AND THIS IS HOW WE FIND OUT
WHO WE ARE--

334
00:13:29,342 --> 00:13:32,412
IN THE ART,
IN MUSIC,

335
00:13:32,479 --> 00:13:34,447
IN LITERATURE...

336
00:13:34,481 --> 00:13:36,416
IN SPORTS.

337
00:13:51,331 --> 00:13:55,168
- CARIBBEAN IMMIGRANTS
WERE AMONG THE FIRST TO ARRIVE.

338
00:13:55,202 --> 00:13:56,536
ONE WAS BOB DOUGLAS.

339
00:13:56,536 --> 00:13:58,605
A NATIVE
OF THE BRITISH WEST INDIES,

340
00:13:58,671 --> 00:14:02,642
SMILING BOB WAS ONLY 19
WHEN HE ARRIVED IN NEW YORK

341
00:14:02,675 --> 00:14:04,511
IN 1901.

342
00:14:04,544 --> 00:14:06,646
HE TOOK A JOB AS A DOORMAN,

343
00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,382
AND FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS,
HE WORKED 12 HOURS A DAY

344
00:14:09,449 --> 00:14:11,184
WAITING FOR HIS BIG BREAK.

345
00:14:11,218 --> 00:14:15,522
IN 1905, A COWORKER TOOK DOUGLAS
TO VISIT AN UPSTAIRS GYM

346
00:14:15,555 --> 00:14:18,391
ON 52ND STREET
AND 10TH AVENUE.

347
00:14:18,458 --> 00:14:21,161
- BOB DOUGLAS WAS INSPIRED
BY BASKETBALL

348
00:14:21,228 --> 00:14:24,164
BECAUSE, IN A BASKETBALL GAME,

349
00:14:24,197 --> 00:14:26,399
YOU CAN SEE
PEOPLE'S ATHLETIC ABILITY

350
00:14:26,466 --> 00:14:29,402
UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL.

351
00:14:29,469 --> 00:14:30,971
- WHEN BOB WALKED
INTO THAT GYM

352
00:14:31,004 --> 00:14:32,572
AND SAW
HIS FIRST BASKETBALL GAME,

353
00:14:32,639 --> 00:14:35,242
HE KNEW HE HAD FOUND
HIS PASSION.

354
00:14:35,308 --> 00:14:40,013
- WHEN IT'S PLAYED THE WAY
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PLAYED,

355
00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,315
BASKETBALL HAPPENS
IN THE AIR, FLYING,

356
00:14:42,349 --> 00:14:43,683
FLOATING,

357
00:14:43,750 --> 00:14:46,019
ELEVATED ABOVE THE FLOOR,

358
00:14:46,053 --> 00:14:48,655
LEVITATING THE WAY OPPRESSED
PEOPLES OF THIS EARTH

359
00:14:48,688 --> 00:14:53,226
IMAGINE THEMSELVES
IN THEIR DREAMS.

360
00:14:55,095 --> 00:14:56,429
NOW ALL HE NEEDED WAS A PLACE

361
00:14:56,429 --> 00:14:58,165
FOR HIS TEAM TO PLAY.

362
00:14:58,231 --> 00:15:00,067
AND HE FOUND IT
RIGHT HERE

363
00:15:00,100 --> 00:15:01,568
AT THIS RED BRICK BUILDING

364
00:15:01,601 --> 00:15:03,603
AT 138TH STREET
AND 7TH AVENUE,

365
00:15:03,670 --> 00:15:06,006
THE RENAISSANCE CASINO
AND BALLROOM.

366
00:15:08,208 --> 00:15:10,610
THE ONLY OBSTACLE
THAT HE HAD TO OVERCOME

367
00:15:10,677 --> 00:15:13,013
WAS TO CONVINCE
THE CASINO'S OWNER,

368
00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,248
FELLOW CARIBBEAN IMMIGRANT
HAL ROACH,

369
00:15:15,282 --> 00:15:16,716
THAT HAVING A BASKETBALL TEAM

370
00:15:16,783 --> 00:15:20,053
ON HIS DANCE FLOOR
WAS A GOOD IDEA.

371
00:15:20,087 --> 00:15:21,621
- HE FINALLY MADE THE DEAL
WITH ROACH,

372
00:15:21,688 --> 00:15:25,092
BUT HE HAD TO RENAME HIS TEAM
THE RENAISSANCE BIG FIVE

373
00:15:25,125 --> 00:15:27,027
TO HELP ADVERTISE THE REN.

374
00:15:27,094 --> 00:15:29,296
[swing music]

375
00:15:29,362 --> 00:15:31,464
- IF THE RENS WERE PLAYING
IN THE RENAISSANCE,

376
00:15:31,531 --> 00:15:35,302
THEN HE WAS THE MAN WHO DID
THE FIRST NAMING RIGHTS DEAL.

377
00:15:35,368 --> 00:15:37,437
- SOME OF TODAY'S BIGGEST
STADIUMS WERE INSPIRED

378
00:15:37,470 --> 00:15:41,241
BY THAT FIRST NAMING RIGHTS DEAL
THAT BOB DOUGLAS PUT TOGETHER.

379
00:15:41,308 --> 00:15:42,575
- SO MUCH GOES BACK TO THE RENS

380
00:15:42,609 --> 00:15:43,776
BECAUSE THEY WERE,
YOU KNOW,

381
00:15:43,810 --> 00:15:45,578
THEY WERE THE FOREFATHERS

382
00:15:45,612 --> 00:15:48,115
OF OUR ORGANIZED SPORT
IN MANY WAYS.

383
00:15:48,148 --> 00:15:49,716
- THE NEW YORK RENAISSANCE,

384
00:15:49,749 --> 00:15:51,751
THEY HAD A BLACK OWNER,
BOB DOUGLAS,

385
00:15:51,784 --> 00:15:54,421
THEY HAD A BLACK COACH,
AND THEY HAD BLACK PLAYERS.

386
00:15:54,454 --> 00:15:56,123
THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME
IN THE HISTORY.

387
00:15:56,156 --> 00:15:58,491
- AFRICAN-AMERICAN BALL PLAYERS
GROWING UP THINK

388
00:15:58,491 --> 00:16:00,493
THAT THERE WAS ALWAYS
AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM

389
00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,229
IN BASKETBALL,

390
00:16:02,295 --> 00:16:03,796
AND THAT'S NOT TRUE.

391
00:16:03,830 --> 00:16:06,566
BOB DOUGLAS
WAS REALLY AT THE HEART OF IT.

392
00:16:06,599 --> 00:16:08,301
IF NECESSITY IS THE MOTHER
OF INVENTION,

393
00:16:08,335 --> 00:16:09,669
HE HAD A LOT OF NECESSITY,

394
00:16:09,736 --> 00:16:11,571
AND HE INVENTED
A LOT OF THINGS.

395
00:16:11,638 --> 00:16:13,240
- THIS IS ONE OF THE IRONIES.

396
00:16:13,273 --> 00:16:14,607
THESE DAYS WE GOT
A LOT OF BLACK PEOPLE

397
00:16:14,641 --> 00:16:17,644
WITH BIG MONEY,
NO OWNERSHIP.

398
00:16:17,677 --> 00:16:21,348
- RIGHT.
- BIG CASH, NO CONTROL.

399
00:16:21,414 --> 00:16:23,316
MAKE BIG MONEY
IN ENTERTAINMENT,

400
00:16:23,350 --> 00:16:25,518
BUT WHO CAN GREEN-LIGHT
A FILM?

401
00:16:25,585 --> 00:16:27,754
MAKE BIG MONEY
IN THE RECORDING INDUSTRY,

402
00:16:27,820 --> 00:16:29,489
BUT WHO CONTROLS THE MASTER?

403
00:16:29,522 --> 00:16:31,591
YOU KNOW, I THINK BOB DOUGLAS,

404
00:16:31,658 --> 00:16:34,527
CARIBBEAN BROTHER,

405
00:16:34,594 --> 00:16:37,197
PIONEER,
PATH BLAZER,

406
00:16:37,264 --> 00:16:39,199
WHEN IT COMES TO OWNERSHIP,

407
00:16:39,266 --> 00:16:41,101
CONTROL,
AND ACHIEVEMENT.

408
00:16:41,168 --> 00:16:42,669
- THEY FIGURED OUT A VISION

409
00:16:42,702 --> 00:16:44,471
THAT WAS WORTH PURSUING,

410
00:16:44,537 --> 00:16:47,207
WHICH IS THE BEGINNING
OF ALL GREAT THINGS.

411
00:16:47,274 --> 00:16:49,309
AND THEN THE TENACITY
AND BUSINESS ACUMEN

412
00:16:49,376 --> 00:16:53,180
AND OTHER ATTRIBUTES
TO PURSUE IT SUCCESSFULLY.

413
00:16:53,213 --> 00:16:54,647
- HE HAD A TEAM,
HE BELIEVED IN IT,

414
00:16:54,681 --> 00:16:57,484
AND HE SHOWCASED 'EM.

415
00:16:59,486 --> 00:17:01,621
A LOT OF GUYS BUILD MONUMENTS
TO THEIR INGENUITY,

416
00:17:01,654 --> 00:17:03,223
AND THAT WAS HIS MONUMENT.

417
00:17:05,558 --> 00:17:08,128
- THE RENNIE WAS ALREADY KNOWN
FOR GREAT BANDS

418
00:17:08,161 --> 00:17:12,132
AND GREAT DANCING.

419
00:17:12,165 --> 00:17:14,134
NOW THEY PLACED BASKETS
AT EITHER END.

420
00:17:14,167 --> 00:17:15,735
- THIS WAS A DANCE FLOOR.
YOU SLID.

421
00:17:15,802 --> 00:17:16,536
AND WHEN THEY MOVED
THE BALL AROUND,

422
00:17:16,569 --> 00:17:18,238
IT WAS A SHOW.

423
00:17:18,305 --> 00:17:20,573
PEOPLE JUST
COULDN'T GET ENOUGH OF IT.

424
00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,142
- IT WAS SMALL FOR ME,

425
00:17:22,175 --> 00:17:24,344
BUT BECAUSE THEY PLAYED
SUCH A, YOU KNOW,

426
00:17:24,411 --> 00:17:25,845
A BEAUTIFUL STYLE
OF BASKETBALL,

427
00:17:25,878 --> 00:17:28,881
YOU WOULD ENTER
THE PLAYER MOVEMENT

428
00:17:28,915 --> 00:17:31,684
RATHER THAN THE SIZE
OF THE COURT.

429
00:17:31,718 --> 00:17:33,353
- YOU COULD SMELL THE ACTION.

430
00:17:33,386 --> 00:17:37,257
THEY SAY YOU COULD SMELL
THE SWEAT.

431
00:17:37,324 --> 00:17:38,558
TWO GUYS GOING
AGAINST EACH OTHER

432
00:17:38,591 --> 00:17:40,593
IN A CONFINED AREA.

433
00:17:40,660 --> 00:17:42,362
YOU'RE RIGHT ON TOP
OF THE ACTION.

434
00:17:42,429 --> 00:17:45,398
- THE TEAM,
WHEN THEY CAME OUT,

435
00:17:45,432 --> 00:17:48,901
IT WAS PANDEMONIUM
IN THE RENAISSANCE.

436
00:17:48,935 --> 00:17:52,439
TO SEE ALL THESE PEOPLE
IN THE BOX SEATS,

437
00:17:52,439 --> 00:17:56,776
THESE WOMEN AND MEN
ALL IN THEIR FINERIES,

438
00:17:56,876 --> 00:18:00,347
TO SEE THEM IDOLIZE
THESE GUYS...

439
00:18:05,452 --> 00:18:07,187
- THEY WERE LIKE GODS

440
00:18:07,254 --> 00:18:09,756
WHEN THEY COME AROUND
THE HARLEM COMMUNITY.

441
00:18:09,789 --> 00:18:12,292
AND EVERYBODY
WOULD KNOW

442
00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:13,693
THAT THEY WERE AROUND.

443
00:18:13,726 --> 00:18:15,762
EVERYBODY WANTED
TO MEET THE BALL PLAYERS.

444
00:18:15,795 --> 00:18:17,897
- THEY REPRESENTED HARLEM.

445
00:18:17,964 --> 00:18:20,433
SEE, WE WEREN'T KNOWN AS
AFRICAN-AMERICANS AT THAT TIME.

446
00:18:20,467 --> 00:18:23,603
WE WERE COLORED OR NEGROES

447
00:18:23,636 --> 00:18:24,637
AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME,

448
00:18:24,637 --> 00:18:26,239
SO THEY REPRESENTED US.

449
00:18:26,306 --> 00:18:28,808
- NO MATTER
WHERE YOU PLAYED

450
00:18:28,808 --> 00:18:31,878
OR WHAT YOU DID
OUT THERE,

451
00:18:31,944 --> 00:18:33,613
IF YOU WERE ON THE RENAISSANCE,

452
00:18:33,646 --> 00:18:36,216
YOU WERE
ON THE A-NUMBER-ONE TEAM.

453
00:18:41,288 --> 00:18:44,224
- AT THE END OF THE GAME,
ABOUT 11:00 P.M.,

454
00:18:44,257 --> 00:18:46,426
THE TWO PORTABLE BASKETS
AT EITHER END OF THE COURT

455
00:18:46,493 --> 00:18:49,262
AND THE WOODEN CHAIRS
FOR SPECTATORS WERE REMOVED.

456
00:18:49,296 --> 00:18:51,331
AND THEN THE ORCHESTRA
BEGAN TO PLAY.

457
00:18:51,398 --> 00:18:53,833
[swing music]

458
00:18:53,900 --> 00:18:55,902
- BOB DOUGLAS WOULD RUN ME
OUT OF HIS OFFICE

459
00:18:55,935 --> 00:18:58,305
AND TELL ME GO PLAY,

460
00:18:58,338 --> 00:19:00,307
AND THERE WOULD BE DANCING
BEFORE THE GAME

461
00:19:00,340 --> 00:19:02,175
AND ALSO AFTER THE GAME.

462
00:19:02,275 --> 00:19:04,577
- IT WAS FINGER-POPPING TIME,
YOU KNOW.

463
00:19:04,611 --> 00:19:07,747
- IT WAS A NIGHT OF BASKETBALL
AND JAZZ...

464
00:19:07,780 --> 00:19:10,350
ALL FOR 55 ADMISSION.

465
00:19:10,417 --> 00:19:11,918
WHICH I THOUGHT
WAS SO COOL

466
00:19:11,951 --> 00:19:13,686
BECAUSE IT JUST REPRESENTED
SUCH A CONFLUENCE

467
00:19:13,753 --> 00:19:15,288
OF BLACK CULTURE--

468
00:19:15,355 --> 00:19:18,858
THIS CONFLUENCE OF DANCE
AND ATHLETICISM--

469
00:19:18,925 --> 00:19:22,195
ALL OF IT RIGHT THERE
IN THAT ONE BUILDING.

470
00:19:31,371 --> 00:19:33,340
- I'VE SEEN THE PICTURES.

471
00:19:40,713 --> 00:19:44,617
I CANNOT BELIEVE
THE SHAMBLES...IN WAS IN.

472
00:19:44,684 --> 00:19:46,386
AND THAT SHOULD BE...

473
00:19:46,453 --> 00:19:48,455
THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN
A NATIONAL LANDMARK.

474
00:20:01,368 --> 00:20:03,370
THAT WAS REALLY HEARTBREAKING
TO ME.

475
00:20:05,338 --> 00:20:07,006
- I PASS
BY THE OLD RENAISSANCE BALLROOM

476
00:20:07,073 --> 00:20:08,808
EVERY SINGLE DAY.

477
00:20:08,841 --> 00:20:10,710
IN FACT, JUST THE OTHER DAY,
I WAS LOOKING AT IT.

478
00:20:10,743 --> 00:20:12,412
AND I JUST WANTED
TO VISUALI--

479
00:20:12,512 --> 00:20:17,717
MAN, I WONDER WHAT IT WAS
TO BE INSIDE THAT THING.

480
00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:19,586
- THE MEN
WHO WERE INSIDE THAT THING

481
00:20:19,652 --> 00:20:21,654
WERE HARLEM.

482
00:20:50,049 --> 00:20:54,854
- HARLEM DID NOT HAVE
A PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL TEAM.

483
00:20:54,887 --> 00:20:57,890
DID NOT HAVE
A PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL TEAM.

484
00:20:57,957 --> 00:21:00,527
BUT IT DID HAVE
A PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL TEAM.

485
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,296
NOT JUST ANY OLD PROFESSIONAL
BASKETBALL TEAM.

486
00:21:03,363 --> 00:21:04,797
- THEY WERE LEGENDARY.

487
00:21:04,864 --> 00:21:06,766
YOU'D HEAR ABOUT THEM
FROM THE OLD GUY.

488
00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:08,067
I WOULD SIT AROUND THE PARKS

489
00:21:08,134 --> 00:21:09,602
AND WATCH SOME OF THE TEAM,

490
00:21:09,636 --> 00:21:11,103
AND THE OLD GUY
WOULD ALWAYS SAY,

491
00:21:11,137 --> 00:21:12,805
"YEAH, BUT YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN
THEM RENS."

492
00:21:12,872 --> 00:21:15,742
- WHAT MADE THE RENS
SO INCREDIBLE?

493
00:21:15,808 --> 00:21:18,745
THOSE PLAYERS
CAME FROM THE HEART

494
00:21:18,778 --> 00:21:20,947
OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN CULTURE.

495
00:21:20,980 --> 00:21:23,816
AND NOT ONLY WERE THEY GREAT,

496
00:21:23,816 --> 00:21:25,618
YOU JUST HADN'T LIVED
UNTIL YOU'D BEEN

497
00:21:25,652 --> 00:21:27,987
IN NEW YORK CITY.

498
00:21:28,087 --> 00:21:29,622
IF YOU CAME FROM THE SOUTH,
IF YOU CAME FROM THE MIDWEST,

499
00:21:29,656 --> 00:21:31,624
YOU CAME FROM SOMEPLACE ELSE,

500
00:21:31,658 --> 00:21:33,593
UNTIL YOU'D SPENT TIME
ON THE STREETS OF NEW YORK

501
00:21:33,660 --> 00:21:35,428
AS AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN,
YOU HADN'T LIVED

502
00:21:35,462 --> 00:21:36,629
TILL YOU EXPERIENCED
AFRICAN-AMERICAN CULTURE

503
00:21:36,663 --> 00:21:38,431
IN NEW YORK.

504
00:21:38,498 --> 00:21:39,832
AND THE RENS KIND OF EMBODIED
THAT EXCELLENCE.

505
00:21:39,832 --> 00:21:41,401
- I'VE ALWAYS FELT
THAT HARLEM'S

506
00:21:41,468 --> 00:21:43,470
THE HEART AND SOUL
OF NEW YORK CITY.

507
00:21:43,503 --> 00:21:47,840
AND THESE CHARACTERS
WERE THE HEART AND SOUL

508
00:21:47,940 --> 00:21:50,610
OF BASKETBALL.

509
00:21:50,677 --> 00:21:53,012
- THERE ARE FIVE PEOPLE
ON THE COURT

510
00:21:53,079 --> 00:21:55,081
THAT KNOW HOW TO WORK TOGETHER

511
00:21:55,147 --> 00:21:59,118
AND KNOW HOW TO GET
SOMETHING DONE AS A GROUP.

512
00:21:59,151 --> 00:22:01,454
AND THEY HAVE A CERTAIN FLAIR
AND STYLE,

513
00:22:01,488 --> 00:22:03,823
WHICH WAS HARLEM.

514
00:22:03,856 --> 00:22:06,659
SO IT MADE PEOPLE
FROM HARLEM FEEL PROUD

515
00:22:06,693 --> 00:22:08,828
BECAUSE THE STYLE
OF THE RENS

516
00:22:08,861 --> 00:22:11,364
WAS THE STYLE OF HARLEM.

517
00:22:21,207 --> 00:22:23,976
- THEY WERE NOT ONLY
GREAT PEOPLE ON THE COURT,

518
00:22:24,010 --> 00:22:27,113
THEY WERE GREAT PEOPLE
OFF THE COURT.

519
00:22:27,146 --> 00:22:30,717
AND A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE
ADMIRED THEM.

520
00:22:30,783 --> 00:22:33,820
- WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE RENS
WEARING HARLEM LIKE A DARE,

521
00:22:33,886 --> 00:22:37,524
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT
YOU HAD A NO-NONSENSE APPROACH

522
00:22:37,557 --> 00:22:39,626
TO THE GAME, AND THEY PLAYED
VERY, VERY TOUGH,

523
00:22:39,659 --> 00:22:42,795
SUFFOCATING KIND OF DEFENSE.

524
00:22:42,829 --> 00:22:46,165
AND IT WAS DEFYING
THE OTHER TEAM TO FIGURE OUT

525
00:22:46,232 --> 00:22:47,834
A WAY TO BEAT THEM.

526
00:22:47,867 --> 00:22:49,869
BUT YOU HAD TO BEAT
ALL OF 'EM.

527
00:22:49,902 --> 00:22:55,174
- YOU DIDN'T HAVE A TREMENDOUS
ASSORTMENT OF SHOTS.

528
00:22:55,241 --> 00:22:57,910
SO I MEAN, BASICALLY,
YOU HAD THE LAY-UP,

529
00:22:57,977 --> 00:23:01,581
YOU HAD A SET SHOT,

530
00:23:01,648 --> 00:23:04,050
AND SO THEY WERE
VERY LOW-SCORING GAMES.

531
00:23:04,083 --> 00:23:06,686
I MEAN, IF YOU GOT
IN THE 30s,

532
00:23:06,753 --> 00:23:09,922
YOU KNOW, THAT WAS--
THAT WAS A MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENT.

533
00:23:09,989 --> 00:23:15,662
- BASKETBALL BEGAN
AS A VERY ROUGH GAME, ACTUALLY,

534
00:23:15,728 --> 00:23:19,866
WHERE DEFENDERS WOULD MAUL
OFFENSIVE PLAYERS.

535
00:23:19,899 --> 00:23:22,435
THE COACHES STARTED
TO DEVISE SYSTEMS

536
00:23:22,502 --> 00:23:26,005
TO KEEP THE BALL MOVING
AND AVOID THE DEFENSE.

537
00:23:26,072 --> 00:23:28,240
- THEY PLAYED TWO-HAND DRIBBLE.

538
00:23:28,274 --> 00:23:30,209
THIS IS UNHEARD OF,
YOU KNOW.

539
00:23:30,242 --> 00:23:32,078
IN OTHER WORDS,
YOU COULD GO LATERALLY

540
00:23:32,111 --> 00:23:33,546
AS MUCH AS YOU WANTED.

541
00:23:33,580 --> 00:23:35,081
YOU PUT THE BALL DOWN,
YOU COULD DRIBBLE...

542
00:23:35,114 --> 00:23:36,616
AND THE REST OF US
COULD READ NEWSPAPERS

543
00:23:36,616 --> 00:23:38,685
TILL YOU GOT TIRED.

544
00:23:38,751 --> 00:23:40,587
- BUT THERE WAS ALSO A PUSH
TO SPEED UP THE GAME

545
00:23:40,620 --> 00:23:42,522
AND MAKE IT MORE ENTERTAINING.

546
00:23:42,589 --> 00:23:45,091
AND SO THE RENS,
WITH THEIR PASSING GAME,

547
00:23:45,124 --> 00:23:47,727
WERE ABLE TO SORT OF MOVE
A LITTLE QUICKER

548
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,597
AND PLAY A MORE FLUID STYLE
OF GAME.

549
00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:53,900
- YOU WEREN'T PLAYING
AGAINST ANY CLOCK.

550
00:23:53,933 --> 00:23:56,869
SO YOU COULD CONTROL THE BALL
AS MUCH AS YOU WANTED TO

551
00:23:56,903 --> 00:23:58,871
UNTIL SOMEBODY KNOCKS YOU DOWN,

552
00:23:58,905 --> 00:23:59,939
AND THEN YOU GOT THE MESSAGE,

553
00:23:59,972 --> 00:24:01,073
DON'T DO THIS ANYMORE.

554
00:24:01,140 --> 00:24:03,142
- YOUR FEET HAVE TO DANCE.

555
00:24:03,209 --> 00:24:05,812
YOU CAN'T PLAY BALL
IF YOU DON'T HAVE DANCING FEET.

556
00:24:05,878 --> 00:24:07,580
YOU HAVE BAD FEET,
YOU'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

557
00:24:07,647 --> 00:24:10,817
- THEY MOVED.
THEY WERE VERY QUICK,

558
00:24:10,883 --> 00:24:12,719
CUT SHARP,

559
00:24:12,785 --> 00:24:15,922
GOOD ELEVATION...

560
00:24:15,955 --> 00:24:18,290
BUT THEY PLAYED
VERY WELL TOGETHER.

561
00:24:18,324 --> 00:24:20,760
THE BALL WAS ALWAYS AHEAD
OF THE MAN.

562
00:24:20,793 --> 00:24:23,963
THAT'S A BIG THING
IN BASKETBALL.

563
00:24:23,996 --> 00:24:25,131
YOU DON'T CATCH IT BEHIND YOU.

564
00:24:25,164 --> 00:24:27,500
WHAT THEY DID
THEY DID WELL.

565
00:24:31,003 --> 00:24:34,006
- BACK THEN, FOR GUYS TO NOT PUT
THE BALL ON THE GROUND,

566
00:24:34,073 --> 00:24:35,642
THAT'S HARD TO DO.

567
00:24:35,675 --> 00:24:38,077
EVEN NOW THAT'S HARD TO DO,
TO MAKE FIVE PASSES

568
00:24:38,144 --> 00:24:39,746
WITHOUT THE BALL
HITTING THE GROUND

569
00:24:39,779 --> 00:24:41,614
AND PEOPLE
CUTTING THROUGH THE LANE

570
00:24:41,648 --> 00:24:42,815
WITHOUT THE BALL
HITTING THE GROUND.

571
00:24:42,849 --> 00:24:43,950
THAT'S TOUGH.

572
00:24:44,016 --> 00:24:45,985
- STYLE CHANGES.

573
00:24:46,018 --> 00:24:48,921
GREATNESS DOES NOT GO AWAY.

574
00:24:48,955 --> 00:24:51,991
I'VE OFTEN THOUGHT THAT
BASKETBALL IS THE PRETTIEST GAME

575
00:24:52,024 --> 00:24:53,660
TO WATCH WHEN THEIR PEOPLE
ARE COORDINATED.

576
00:24:53,693 --> 00:24:56,128
IF YOU WATCH FIVE PEOPLE

577
00:24:56,195 --> 00:24:57,930
WHO ARE COORDINATED MENTALLY,

578
00:24:57,964 --> 00:25:01,634
IT'S LIKE FIVE BRAINS
CONNECTED TO EACH OTHER.

579
00:25:06,806 --> 00:25:08,875
- A LOT OF THOSE PLAYERS

580
00:25:08,941 --> 00:25:10,042
WHO PLAYED DURING THAT ERA,

581
00:25:10,109 --> 00:25:12,278
WHEN THEY REFLECT
AND LOOK

582
00:25:12,344 --> 00:25:14,681
AT TODAY'S PLAYERS,
THEY'LL SAY,

583
00:25:14,714 --> 00:25:16,182
"OH, WE WEREN'T
AS GOOD AS THOSE PLAYERS,

584
00:25:16,215 --> 00:25:17,717
"BUT THERE'S ONE THING
WE COULD DO BETTER.

585
00:25:17,784 --> 00:25:19,619
"WE COULD REALLY PASS THE BALL.

586
00:25:19,652 --> 00:25:21,821
WE KEPT THAT BALL MOVING
LIKE IT WAS A HOT POTATO."

587
00:25:21,888 --> 00:25:23,189
- IF A GUY'S DRIBBLING
THE BASKETBALL,

588
00:25:23,222 --> 00:25:25,057
HE'S NOT CONTROLLING THE BALL.

589
00:25:25,057 --> 00:25:26,292
HE'S ABOUT TO LOSE THE BALL.

590
00:25:26,358 --> 00:25:28,027
GET IF OFF YOUR WRIST,
SUCKER.

591
00:25:28,060 --> 00:25:29,896
GET A BALL UP.

592
00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:34,166
- GET IT OFF YOUR WRIST.

593
00:25:34,233 --> 00:25:36,002
TREAT IT LIKE A HOT POTATO.

594
00:25:36,035 --> 00:25:37,570
MAKE IT HUM.

595
00:25:37,637 --> 00:25:39,205
GIVE AND GO.

596
00:25:39,238 --> 00:25:42,809
- WHEN A BALL IS MOVING,
YOU GOT TO WATCH EVERYBODY.

597
00:25:42,875 --> 00:25:45,344
BUT IF THE BALL AIN'T MOVING
AND THIS GUY DRIBBLING,

598
00:25:45,377 --> 00:25:47,313
THEY SAY,
"GET IT OFF YOUR WRIST."

599
00:25:47,346 --> 00:25:48,681
- STOP DRIBBLING.
PASS THE BALL.

600
00:25:48,748 --> 00:25:49,816
MOVE THE BALL.

601
00:25:49,849 --> 00:25:51,250
GET IT OFF YOUR WRIST.

602
00:25:51,317 --> 00:25:53,019
- IT WAS JUST A TEAM EFFORT.

603
00:25:53,085 --> 00:25:54,754
AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE
HAD DIFFERENT ROLES.

604
00:25:54,754 --> 00:25:59,558
IT WAS LIKE AN ORCHESTRATION.

605
00:26:08,935 --> 00:26:12,171
- MY VIEW OF THE GAME,
IN THAT ERA,

606
00:26:12,204 --> 00:26:14,907
THE PACE OF THE GAME
CHANGED RAPIDLY.

607
00:26:14,941 --> 00:26:17,276
THE RULES WERE ADOPTED
TO A GAME PLAYED MUCH SLOWER

608
00:26:17,343 --> 00:26:19,679
AND MUCH MORE METHODICAL.

609
00:26:19,712 --> 00:26:20,880
WHEN YOU CHANGE THE SPEED
OF THE GAME,

610
00:26:20,913 --> 00:26:22,849
YOU ELIMINATE A LOT OF PEOPLE
FROM IT.

611
00:26:22,882 --> 00:26:25,384
AND WHEN THE SPEED CHANGED,
THE RHYTHM CHANGED.

612
00:26:25,417 --> 00:26:28,087
AND THE NEED TO IMPROVISE
BECAME PARAMOUNT.

613
00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:32,058
AND AFRICAN-AMERICANS
PLAYED THE GAME, FREELANCED.

614
00:26:32,124 --> 00:26:34,794
- BASKETBALL IN NEW YORK
HAS BASICALLY

615
00:26:34,794 --> 00:26:37,797
BEEN VERY INDIVIDUALIZED.

616
00:26:37,864 --> 00:26:39,766
LIKE JAZZ--
THERE'S THAT CONNECTION.

617
00:26:39,799 --> 00:26:41,233
- IT'S LIKE ASKING
WHAT DOES A BLACK CHURCH

618
00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:42,802
MEAN TO HARLEM.

619
00:26:42,869 --> 00:26:44,637
THERE'S A CONNECTION THERE.

620
00:26:44,704 --> 00:26:47,373
- AS LONG AS YOU TALK ABOUT JAZZ
BEING PLAYED FREELANCE,

621
00:26:47,439 --> 00:26:50,777
AND THEY TRANSPORTED THE GAME
FROM A STRUCTURED GAME

622
00:26:50,810 --> 00:26:53,379
TO RECORDED NOTES
AND DIRECTIONS

623
00:26:53,412 --> 00:26:55,147
AND PLACES TO BE...

624
00:26:55,214 --> 00:26:58,150
[jazz music]

625
00:26:58,217 --> 00:26:59,786
*

626
00:26:59,819 --> 00:27:02,088
- MUSIC IS A PART OF CULTURE,

627
00:27:02,154 --> 00:27:04,223
AND CULTURE'S A GREAT THING
FOR HUMAN BEINGS

628
00:27:04,256 --> 00:27:06,659
TO HAVE AS A LANGUAGE,
LANGUAGE OPTION.

629
00:27:06,726 --> 00:27:09,128
SPORTS
IS A GREAT LANGUAGE OPTION TOO.

630
00:27:10,730 --> 00:27:14,100
- BEING OF THE MOMENT
DRAWS PARALLELS

631
00:27:14,166 --> 00:27:17,236
BETWEEN THE ARTISTIC SIDE

632
00:27:17,269 --> 00:27:19,305
AND THE ATHLETIC SIDE.

633
00:27:19,338 --> 00:27:23,009
- AND I THINK ALL THAT STAYS
INSIDE YOUR MIND AND YOUR BODY.

634
00:27:23,075 --> 00:27:24,911
AND I THINK
IT GIVES YOU RHYTHM.

635
00:27:24,944 --> 00:27:27,313
- THERE'S A THING WE HAVE
WITH THAT RHYTHM,

636
00:27:27,346 --> 00:27:29,315
WHICH ALL COMES DOWN
TO THE DRUM.

637
00:27:29,348 --> 00:27:32,184
*

638
00:27:32,251 --> 00:27:35,755
- JAZZ IS BASED ON IMPROVISING

639
00:27:35,822 --> 00:27:38,190
AND USING SYNCOPATION.

640
00:27:38,257 --> 00:27:39,692
EVERYTHING IS LAID OUT.

641
00:27:39,759 --> 00:27:40,993
YOU DRIBBLE THE BALL,
WE CAN SEE

642
00:27:41,027 --> 00:27:42,094
WHAT THE FORM OF IT IS.

643
00:27:42,161 --> 00:27:43,696
THE OBJECTIVE IS TO SHOOT.

644
00:27:48,534 --> 00:27:50,169
EACH POSITION
HAS A DIFFERENT ROLE.

645
00:27:50,202 --> 00:27:52,471
THE DRUMS POWER THE BAND.

646
00:27:52,504 --> 00:27:57,143
THAT WOULD BE LIKE THE POWER
FORWARD OF A BASKETBALL TEAM.

647
00:27:57,176 --> 00:27:59,311
THAT'S LIKE AN ENFORCER,
SOMEBODY WHO CAN BRING

648
00:27:59,345 --> 00:28:01,213
A LOT OF ENERGY
AND ENTHUSIASM

649
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,949
TO THE GAME.

650
00:28:10,022 --> 00:28:12,725
- THE RENS AT ONE TIME HAD
A PLAYER NAMED WEE WILLIE SMITH

651
00:28:12,792 --> 00:28:14,727
THAT HAD US SCARED TO DEATH,
I'LL SAY THAT.

652
00:28:14,794 --> 00:28:17,196
HE WAS ONLY I THINK
AROUND 6'6"

653
00:28:17,229 --> 00:28:18,731
WITH BEAUTIFUL...
[indistinct].

654
00:28:18,798 --> 00:28:21,400
- THE BASS IS THE BOTTOM
OF THE HARMONY.

655
00:28:21,467 --> 00:28:23,202
IT'S A PART
OF THE STRING ORCHESTRA.

656
00:28:23,235 --> 00:28:24,904
IT PLAYS IN THE RHYTHM SECTION,

657
00:28:25,004 --> 00:28:26,839
SO THAT WOULD BE LIKE
THE CENTER OF THE TEAM.

658
00:28:26,873 --> 00:28:29,341
EVERYTHING GOES
THROUGH THE BASS.

659
00:28:29,375 --> 00:28:31,811
THE BASS IS THE FOUNDATION.

660
00:28:31,844 --> 00:28:33,079
- AND THEY HAD LEATHER
BASKETBALLS,

661
00:28:33,145 --> 00:28:34,747
AS THEY WERE IN THOSE DAYS,

662
00:28:34,814 --> 00:28:36,315
IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT
TO HOLD THAT BALL,

663
00:28:36,348 --> 00:28:38,851
AND HIS HANDS WERE SO LARGE,

664
00:28:38,918 --> 00:28:41,253
IT WAS VERY SIMPLE
FOR HIM TO DO IT.

665
00:28:41,253 --> 00:28:44,423
- TARZAN COOPER
WAS A BRUTE OF A PLAYER.

666
00:28:44,523 --> 00:28:47,393
HE WAS A TREMENDOUS REBOUNDER.

667
00:28:47,426 --> 00:28:49,028
BUT ALL OF THAT WAS DONE

668
00:28:49,095 --> 00:28:51,397
STRICTLY ON SKILL
AND MUSCLE

669
00:28:51,430 --> 00:28:53,199
AND DETERMINATION.

670
00:28:53,232 --> 00:28:54,867
- AND GENERALLY, PIANO PLAYERS
ARE CONDUCTORS.

671
00:28:54,901 --> 00:28:56,235
THAT WOULD BE
LIKE THE POINT GUARD.

672
00:28:56,268 --> 00:28:58,104
PIANO PLAYERS ARE LIKE THAT
IN A BAND.

673
00:28:58,170 --> 00:28:59,939
YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE VIBE
OR SOMETHING THAT'S GOING ON,

674
00:29:00,006 --> 00:29:01,173
THE PIANO PLAYER
CAN START COMPING.

675
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,241
HE'S IN THE RHYTHM SECTION.

676
00:29:02,274 --> 00:29:03,442
WHEN YOU NEED POINTS,

677
00:29:03,442 --> 00:29:05,044
WHEN YOU NEED SOMETHING,

678
00:29:05,111 --> 00:29:06,245
HE'S THE MAN
THAT YOU CAN RELY ON.

679
00:29:06,278 --> 00:29:08,580
- FATS WAS A KIND OF ANCHOR.

680
00:29:08,614 --> 00:29:10,249
FATS JENKINS WAS NEVER LOST.

681
00:29:10,282 --> 00:29:12,785
HE WAS THE PASSER,
THE CONTROL GUY.

682
00:29:12,852 --> 00:29:16,455
HE DID THE PASSING
AND MORE OF A GUY

683
00:29:16,522 --> 00:29:18,390
THAT RAN THE TEAM,
SO TO SPEAK,

684
00:29:18,457 --> 00:29:20,026
LIKE YOU WOULD SAY
THE GUY THAT WOULD BE

685
00:29:20,059 --> 00:29:22,228
THE POINT GUARD TODAY.

686
00:29:24,897 --> 00:29:26,365
- YOU HAVE A STAR,
KIND OF SOLOIST ROLE,

687
00:29:26,398 --> 00:29:27,366
THAT'S LIKE THE PERSON
WHO'S GOING TO TAKE

688
00:29:27,399 --> 00:29:29,268
A MAJORITY OF THE SHOTS.

689
00:29:29,301 --> 00:29:32,805
THAT WOULD BE LIKE A MILES DAVIS
OR LIKE DIZZY GILLESPIE

690
00:29:32,905 --> 00:29:34,874
OR LIKE CHARLIE PARKER
IN HIS OWN BAND.

691
00:29:34,907 --> 00:29:36,242
HE'S GONNA DO ALL OF THE THINGS
THAT MAKE PEOPLE SAY,

692
00:29:36,275 --> 00:29:38,044
"OOH, MAN, DID YOU SEE THAT?"

693
00:29:38,077 --> 00:29:40,312
- WELL, HE WAS LIKE
A MICHAEL JORDAN OF HIS TIME.

694
00:29:40,379 --> 00:29:43,582
I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYBODY--

695
00:29:43,649 --> 00:29:46,585
ANYBODY ANYWHERE
IN ALL MY EXPERIENCE

696
00:29:46,618 --> 00:29:50,957
HANDLE A BALL
LIKE POP GATES.

697
00:29:50,990 --> 00:29:52,959
- IN THE JAZZ BAND,
EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE TO SOLO,

698
00:29:52,992 --> 00:29:54,994
SO SOMETIMES YOU HAVE BANDS
WHERE EVERYBODY'S THAT PERSON.

699
00:29:55,061 --> 00:29:57,263
AND BASKETBALL
IS ALSO LIKE THAT.

700
00:29:57,329 --> 00:29:58,898
SO YOU CAN ADJUST YOUR OFFENSE

701
00:29:58,931 --> 00:30:00,599
SO THAT YOUR GET-OFF MAN
ALWAYS CAN GET OFF.

702
00:30:00,666 --> 00:30:02,334
JAZZ BAND IS THAT WAY TOO.

703
00:30:02,401 --> 00:30:04,837
- ISAACS WAS UNBELIEVABLE.

704
00:30:04,904 --> 00:30:06,605
WHEN IT CAME
TO THE BALL CONTROL,

705
00:30:06,672 --> 00:30:10,309
HE SHINED OUT
IN EVERY GAME.

706
00:30:16,182 --> 00:30:18,350
- DOUGLAS'S STARTING FIVE
COULDN'T COMPETE

707
00:30:18,450 --> 00:30:20,119
FOR A TITLE
AGAINST WHITE TEAMS,

708
00:30:20,186 --> 00:30:22,188
BUT THEY COULD PLAY

709
00:30:22,188 --> 00:30:24,356
SO-CALLED EXHIBITION GAMES,
AND THEY DID,

710
00:30:24,456 --> 00:30:27,960
PLAYING FOUR TO FIVE GAMES
A WEEK EVERY WEEK.

711
00:30:27,994 --> 00:30:29,595
- YOU KNOW,
NOW WE, YOU KNOW,

712
00:30:29,628 --> 00:30:30,296
SORRY TO SAY,
WE COMPLAIN

713
00:30:30,329 --> 00:30:32,131
ABOUT PLAYING A BACK-TO-BACK,

714
00:30:32,164 --> 00:30:33,299
YOU KNOW, TWO GAMES.

715
00:30:33,332 --> 00:30:34,666
THEM GAMES PLAY EIGHT GAMES

716
00:30:34,700 --> 00:30:36,602
IN SEVEN DAYS.

717
00:30:36,635 --> 00:30:39,638
YOU REALLY
DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

718
00:30:39,705 --> 00:30:42,341
- BUT NO MATTER HOW GOOD
THE RENS WERE,

719
00:30:42,374 --> 00:30:44,110
THEY WERE JUST A COLORED TEAM

720
00:30:44,143 --> 00:30:46,145
WHO COULD NEVER COMPETE
FOR A CHAMPIONSHIP

721
00:30:46,212 --> 00:30:48,114
AGAINST THE BEST WHITE TEAMS,

722
00:30:48,147 --> 00:30:50,616
ESPECIALLY
NOT THE BEST WHITE TEAM OF ALL,

723
00:30:50,649 --> 00:30:53,552
THE ORIGINAL CELTICS.

724
00:30:56,555 --> 00:31:00,359
- THE ORIGINAL CELTICS
WERE THE NEW YORK YANKEES

725
00:31:00,392 --> 00:31:01,961
OF PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL.

726
00:31:01,994 --> 00:31:03,462
THEY SET THE STANDARD.

727
00:31:03,495 --> 00:31:05,364
- NAMES LIKE NAT HOLMAN

728
00:31:05,397 --> 00:31:07,033
AND DUTCH DEHNERT

729
00:31:07,066 --> 00:31:10,536
WERE ALREADY PART
OF BASKETBALL LEGEND.

730
00:31:10,569 --> 00:31:13,672
AS WAS 6'5" JOE LAPCHICK.

731
00:31:13,739 --> 00:31:15,241
- THE RENS
WERE THE UP-AND-COMING TEAM.

732
00:31:15,241 --> 00:31:17,243
THE ORIGINAL CELTICS
WERE THE ESTABLISHED TEAM.

733
00:31:17,343 --> 00:31:18,677
JOE LAPCHICK,
THEIR CENTER,

734
00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:20,479
WROTE QUITE FREQUENTLY

735
00:31:20,512 --> 00:31:22,514
ABOUT HOW THEY
WOULD ALL GET TOGETHER

736
00:31:22,581 --> 00:31:24,216
AND JUST SORT OF BRAINSTORM

737
00:31:24,250 --> 00:31:26,518
ABOUT HOW THEY COULD DEVELOP
UNIQUE PLAYS.

738
00:31:26,552 --> 00:31:28,520
- MY FATHER'S GOAL
IN LIFE

739
00:31:28,554 --> 00:31:30,222
AND EVERYTHING
ABOUT BASKETBALL

740
00:31:30,256 --> 00:31:31,657
WAS TO WIN BASKETBALL GAMES.

741
00:31:31,723 --> 00:31:33,492
HE COACHED TO WIN,
HE PLAYED TO WIN.

742
00:31:33,525 --> 00:31:35,527
HE WAS DETERMINED

743
00:31:35,594 --> 00:31:38,230
TO MOTIVATE HIS TEAMMATES
WHEN HE WAS A PLAYER

744
00:31:38,264 --> 00:31:40,066
AND HIS PLAYERS
WHEN HE WAS A COACH

745
00:31:40,099 --> 00:31:42,401
TO WANT TO ACHIEVE
THAT ULTIMATE GOAL

746
00:31:42,434 --> 00:31:44,070
BECAUSE HE LOVED THE CONCEPT
OF TEAMWORK.

747
00:31:49,341 --> 00:31:52,178
- SO THE ORIGINAL CELTICS
WERE A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TEAM

748
00:31:52,244 --> 00:31:55,014
IN THE DEVELOPMENT
OF BASKETBALL STRATEGY.

749
00:31:55,047 --> 00:31:56,682
- AND THAT STRATEGY WORKED.

750
00:31:56,715 --> 00:31:58,117
IN JUST ONE SEASON,

751
00:31:58,184 --> 00:32:01,220
THE CELTICS WON 94 OF 100 GAMES.

752
00:32:01,287 --> 00:32:03,122
- PLAYING AGAINST THE CELTICS--

753
00:32:03,189 --> 00:32:05,424
THAT WAS AN EDUCATION
PLAYING AGAINST THEM.

754
00:32:05,457 --> 00:32:06,959
WHEN I GOT TO THE RENS,
I SAID,

755
00:32:07,026 --> 00:32:09,628
"OOH, OH, OH, OH.

756
00:32:09,695 --> 00:32:12,198
"WE HAVE TO STOP
THIS MUSCLE BASKETBALL.

757
00:32:12,264 --> 00:32:15,134
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO START
THE PLAYING UP HERE."

758
00:32:15,201 --> 00:32:19,571
I SAID, "OTHERWISE THE CELTICS
PLAY GIVE-AND-GO ALL NIGHT."

759
00:32:19,638 --> 00:32:22,274
- THERE WAS, YOU KNOW,

760
00:32:22,308 --> 00:32:24,076
DEFENSIVE MANEUVERS TO TRY

761
00:32:24,110 --> 00:32:26,112
TO GET THE BALL
AWAY FROM EACH OTHER.

762
00:32:26,145 --> 00:32:28,214
THERE WAS GREAT PASSING
ON BOTH TEAMS.

763
00:32:28,247 --> 00:32:30,716
THEY WERE BOTH QUICKER
THAN THE OTHER TEAMS.

764
00:32:30,749 --> 00:32:32,618
- THEY DIDN'T LIKE FOR YOU
TO RUN.

765
00:32:32,651 --> 00:32:34,620
AND I SAID, "NOW WE HAVE
TO RUN THESE FELLAS.

766
00:32:34,653 --> 00:32:35,587
"THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO RUN.

767
00:32:35,654 --> 00:32:37,289
WE HAVE TO RUN THEM."

768
00:32:37,323 --> 00:32:39,258
AND WE RAN 'EM
AND RAN 'EM.

769
00:32:39,291 --> 00:32:41,260
ON THE NIGHTS THAT WE
HAD GOOD SHOOTING NIGHTS,

770
00:32:41,293 --> 00:32:44,296
THEY WOULD SAY, "WHAT ARE YOU
TRYING TO DO, KILL THE GAME?"

771
00:32:44,330 --> 00:32:45,731
I SAID, "WE NEVER COMPLAIN

772
00:32:45,797 --> 00:32:47,133
WHEN YOU HAD
YOUR GOOD SHOOTING NIGHT."

773
00:32:47,166 --> 00:32:49,068
JUST HAD A NIGHT
WHERE EVERYTHING--

774
00:32:49,101 --> 00:32:50,602
IF YOU FELL ON YOUR HEAD
AND THREW IT UP,

775
00:32:50,669 --> 00:32:52,304
IT WOULD GO IN.

776
00:32:54,506 --> 00:32:56,008
- BOTH TEAMS INVENTED PLAYS

777
00:32:56,075 --> 00:32:58,410
AND WEREN'T GIVEN CREDIT
FOR CHANGING

778
00:32:58,444 --> 00:33:00,146
THE WAY THE GAME WAS PLAYED.

779
00:33:00,179 --> 00:33:01,747
I THINK EVEN THEN
THEY WERE BREAKING STEREOTYPES.

780
00:33:01,813 --> 00:33:03,515
AN ATHLETE SIMPLY ISN'T SOMEBODY

781
00:33:03,582 --> 00:33:05,017
WHO HAS A BODY
THAT CAN LET HIM DO SOMETHING

782
00:33:05,084 --> 00:33:07,353
BUT A MIND
THAT CAN LET HIM FIGURE OUT

783
00:33:07,419 --> 00:33:09,021
HOW TO DO THINGS BETTER.

784
00:33:09,088 --> 00:33:11,290
- ALONG THE WAY,
THE RENS AND THE CELTICS

785
00:33:11,357 --> 00:33:13,492
DID MANAGE TO PLAY
SOME EXHIBITION GAMES.

786
00:33:13,525 --> 00:33:14,826
AND THE RENS
WERE BEGINNING

787
00:33:14,860 --> 00:33:16,528
TO LOOK LIKE REAL CONTENDERS.

788
00:33:16,528 --> 00:33:17,796
- THEY LIKED TO DRINK.

789
00:33:17,863 --> 00:33:20,032
THEY DRANK BEER.
THEY DRANK TEQUILA.

790
00:33:20,099 --> 00:33:23,102
DUTCH DEHNERT, YOU KNOW,
HE POURED IT,

791
00:33:23,135 --> 00:33:25,037
AND HIS HAND
HAS NEVER LOST ITS TOUCH.

792
00:33:25,104 --> 00:33:27,273
SO THE FIRST THING YOU DID
ON THE FIRST JUMP-OFF,

793
00:33:27,339 --> 00:33:30,509
BAM, RIGHT IN HIS STOMACH.

794
00:33:30,542 --> 00:33:33,212
YOU HAD NO MORE PROBLEM WITH HIM
THE REST OF THE NIGHT, YOU KNOW.

795
00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:37,549
- IN THE RENS'
OWN 1928 AND 1929 SEASON,

796
00:33:37,616 --> 00:33:41,187
THEY WON 95 OF 107 GAMES.

797
00:33:41,220 --> 00:33:45,291
DOUGLAS'S HOPE WAS TO PIT
HIS RENS AGAINST THE CELTICS

798
00:33:45,357 --> 00:33:47,693
IN AN UNOFFICIAL,
HIGHLY PUBLICIZED,

799
00:33:47,726 --> 00:33:49,561
POST-CHAMPIONSHIP DUEL,

800
00:33:49,628 --> 00:33:51,463
A BEST-OF-THREE SERIES.

801
00:33:51,530 --> 00:33:54,466
EVEN THOUGH IT WOULDN'T COUNT
PROFESSIONALLY,

802
00:33:54,500 --> 00:33:56,702
A RENS WIN MEANT
THAT A LOCAL BLACK TEAM

803
00:33:56,735 --> 00:33:59,638
HAD BEATEN
THE REIGNING WORLD CHAMPIONS.

804
00:33:59,705 --> 00:34:03,375
BUT ON GAME DAY,
THE RENS JUST COULDN'T KEEP UP.

805
00:34:03,409 --> 00:34:05,411
IN GAME TWO, NAT HOLMAN,

806
00:34:05,477 --> 00:34:07,213
DUTCH DEHNERT,
JOE LAPCHICK,

807
00:34:07,246 --> 00:34:10,549
AND PETE BARRY LED THE TEAM
TO A 30-25 VICTORY

808
00:34:10,582 --> 00:34:12,651
OVER THE RENS.

809
00:34:12,718 --> 00:34:14,553
A FEW DAYS LATER,
THE CELTICS DEFEATED THE RENS

810
00:34:14,586 --> 00:34:16,588
A THIRD TIME,
26-23.

811
00:34:16,655 --> 00:34:17,823
[buzzer blares]

812
00:34:17,889 --> 00:34:20,092
ALL THE CHEERING
HAD COME TO NOTHING.

813
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:22,394
THE RENS,
THE HOPE OF HARLEM,

814
00:34:22,428 --> 00:34:25,664
HAD LOST.

815
00:34:25,731 --> 00:34:28,700
[bluesy music]

816
00:34:28,734 --> 00:34:33,071
*

817
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,584
THE RENS WEREN'T THE ONLY ONES
TO EXPERIENCE LOSS.

818
00:34:45,617 --> 00:34:47,519
BY THE LATE 1920s,

819
00:34:47,586 --> 00:34:50,422
THE COUNTRY ITSELF
WAS LOSING MOMENTUM.

820
00:34:50,456 --> 00:34:53,625
THERE WOULD BE BAD TIMES AHEAD.

821
00:35:02,734 --> 00:35:05,704
THE RENS PLAYED
ALMOST EVERY NIGHT OF THE WEEK

822
00:35:05,737 --> 00:35:07,539
JUST TO KEEP AFLOAT.

823
00:35:07,573 --> 00:35:10,276
THE RENAISSANCE CASINO
AND BALLROOM WAS NEARLY BANKRUPT

824
00:35:10,309 --> 00:35:11,910
DUE TO POOR MANAGEMENT.

825
00:35:11,977 --> 00:35:13,812
SO BOB DOUGLAS
DID TWO THINGS--

826
00:35:13,879 --> 00:35:16,415
HE TOOK OVER MANAGEMENT
OF THE RENNIE,

827
00:35:16,482 --> 00:35:18,650
AND THE RENS TOOK THEIR TALENT
ON THE ROAD.

828
00:35:20,986 --> 00:35:22,488
- IN THE EARLY DAYS
OF BASKETBALL,

829
00:35:22,554 --> 00:35:23,889
THERE WAS NO LEAGUE.

830
00:35:23,955 --> 00:35:25,457
LIKE, IT DIDN'T ORGANIZE ITSELF
THE WAY

831
00:35:25,491 --> 00:35:27,459
THAT FOOTBALL AND BASEBALL
WERE ORGANIZED.

832
00:35:27,493 --> 00:35:28,827
SO PEOPLE WERE BARNSTORMERS.

833
00:35:28,827 --> 00:35:30,396
THEY'D GET A GOOD TEAM TOGETHER,

834
00:35:30,462 --> 00:35:31,797
AND THERE'D BE
LIKE A STAR PLAYER,

835
00:35:31,830 --> 00:35:32,831
AND THEY WOULD GO
AND THEY WOULD PLAY

836
00:35:32,898 --> 00:35:33,932
OTHER PEOPLE'S GOOD TEAMS.

837
00:35:33,999 --> 00:35:35,767
- IT WAS A BARNSTORMING KIND
OF TEAM

838
00:35:35,801 --> 00:35:37,769
WHO WENT FROM TOWN TO TOWN

839
00:35:37,803 --> 00:35:39,438
AND COMMUNITY TO COMMUNITY

840
00:35:39,471 --> 00:35:41,973
TAKING ON WHOEVER
WOULD HAVE THE GUTS

841
00:35:42,007 --> 00:35:43,675
TO GET ON THE COURT
WITH THEM.

842
00:35:48,847 --> 00:35:52,618
- THE RENS DIDN'T TRAVEL
IN FULLY-CATERED CHARTER JETS

843
00:35:52,684 --> 00:35:53,952
EQUIPPED WITH SLEEPER SEATS

844
00:35:53,985 --> 00:35:57,656
TO ACCOMMODATE
SEVEN-FOOT PLAYERS.

845
00:35:57,689 --> 00:35:59,325
- YOU KNOW, NOW WE FLY
PRIVATE JETS.

846
00:35:59,358 --> 00:36:01,427
THE OWNERS HAVE
THEY OWN TEAM PLANES.

847
00:36:01,493 --> 00:36:03,829
YOU GOT CATERED FOOD,
YOU KNOW, ON THE PLANES.

848
00:36:03,862 --> 00:36:05,364
YOU GOT MEALS
WHEN YOU GET

849
00:36:05,464 --> 00:36:07,433
TO THE HOTELS,
MEALS BEFORE THE GAMES.

850
00:36:07,466 --> 00:36:08,834
BACK THEN,
YOU DIDN'T HAVE NONE OF THAT.

851
00:36:08,867 --> 00:36:10,836
YOU DIDN'T HAVE
NO PRIVATE PLANES.

852
00:36:10,869 --> 00:36:12,871
YOU DIDN'T HAVE NO CATERERS.
YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY OF THAT.

853
00:36:12,971 --> 00:36:15,674
- ALL THEY HAD
WAS THE BLUE GOOSE.

854
00:36:15,707 --> 00:36:17,376
[kaluga horn blasts]

855
00:36:17,443 --> 00:36:18,610
IT WAS MORE THAN A BUS.

856
00:36:18,677 --> 00:36:21,880
IT WAS A SANCTUARY.

857
00:36:21,947 --> 00:36:25,817
- SO WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT, LIKE, $37 A WEEK

858
00:36:25,884 --> 00:36:27,886
TO TRAVEL ALL OVER THE COUNTRY

859
00:36:27,886 --> 00:36:29,855
WHETHER IT WAS STORMING

860
00:36:29,888 --> 00:36:31,390
OR WHETHER IT WASN'T STORMING,

861
00:36:31,457 --> 00:36:34,326
UP NORTH, DOWN SOUTH,

862
00:36:34,393 --> 00:36:37,396
AND ALL THE THINGS YOU HAD
TO CONTEND WITH TRAVELING.

863
00:36:37,396 --> 00:36:38,897
WE'RE ALL RIDING AROUND.

864
00:36:38,964 --> 00:36:40,399
THERE'S ONLY EIGHT OF US.

865
00:36:40,466 --> 00:36:41,667
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE WAS,

866
00:36:41,733 --> 00:36:44,336
IF YOU HAD 150 MILES TO DO

867
00:36:44,370 --> 00:36:45,737
TO GO PLAY A GAME,

868
00:36:45,804 --> 00:36:47,673
YOU STILL HAD THAT 150
TO RIDE BACK

869
00:36:47,739 --> 00:36:49,341
IF YOU WANTED TO SLEEP.

870
00:36:49,375 --> 00:36:51,710
- THEY PLANNED
HOW THEY WERE GONNA LIVE

871
00:36:51,743 --> 00:36:53,645
AROUND THAT BUS
IN TERMS OF MEALS,

872
00:36:53,712 --> 00:36:55,347
IN TERMS OF ACCOMMODATIONS,

873
00:36:55,381 --> 00:36:57,483
BECAUSE THEY KNEW
THAT THERE WOULD BE

874
00:36:57,516 --> 00:36:59,017
A LOT OF PLACES
THAT THEY WERE GONNA TRAVEL TO

875
00:36:59,050 --> 00:37:01,052
THAT THEY WEREN'T GONNA BE
WELCOME.

876
00:37:01,086 --> 00:37:04,756
- AT A TIME
WHEN WE WERE CONSIDERED

877
00:37:04,823 --> 00:37:07,493
BY LAW INFERIOR,

878
00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:10,996
IT TOOK EFFORT TO SAY,
"I'M BLACK, AND I'M PROUD."

879
00:37:11,029 --> 00:37:13,765
IT TOOK EFFORT
TO KEEP CONVINCING YOURSELF

880
00:37:13,832 --> 00:37:16,702
AND OTHERS
THAT YOU WERE NOT INFERIOR,

881
00:37:16,768 --> 00:37:18,737
THAT YOU WERE WORTHY.

882
00:37:18,770 --> 00:37:22,708
- MANY TIMES, THEY WOULDN'T
BE ABLE TO GET INTO HOTELS.

883
00:37:22,741 --> 00:37:24,042
A LOT OF TIMES
THEY STAYED IN JAILS

884
00:37:24,075 --> 00:37:25,844
BECAUSE THAT WAS
THE SAFEST PLACE

885
00:37:25,877 --> 00:37:27,613
THEY COULD STAY.

886
00:37:27,679 --> 00:37:30,882
- THEY HAD TO ENDURE
JUST HARSH TREATMENT.

887
00:37:30,949 --> 00:37:35,454
THEY WERE NOT VIEWED UPON
AS EQUAL CITIZENS.

888
00:37:35,521 --> 00:37:37,856
- WHAT WOULD BE MY MINDSET

889
00:37:37,923 --> 00:37:41,427
IF I HAD TO PLAY
UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES?

890
00:37:41,460 --> 00:37:43,629
I COULD IMAGINE
I WOULD HAVE BEEN AFRAID,

891
00:37:43,629 --> 00:37:45,697
KNOWING THAT I WAS
UNDER THE MICROSCOPE

892
00:37:45,764 --> 00:37:47,599
AND KNOWING THAT I WAS HATED

893
00:37:47,633 --> 00:37:52,638
AND NOT UNDERSTANDING
WHY THERE WAS SO MUCH HATE.

894
00:37:52,704 --> 00:37:56,375
- IT WAS SOMETHING
THAT REALLY ENRAGED PEOPLE

895
00:37:56,442 --> 00:37:59,110
AND MADE THEM FEEL
THAT NOTHING EVER WOULD CHANGE.

896
00:37:59,144 --> 00:38:02,448
- I CAN'T IMAGINE
NOT BEING ABLE TO GO

897
00:38:02,481 --> 00:38:05,384
TO A CERTAIN HOTEL,
NOT BE ABLE TO SIT

898
00:38:05,417 --> 00:38:07,953
IN A CERTAIN SECTION
OF RESTAURANTS.

899
00:38:07,986 --> 00:38:10,422
- WHERE, AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT,
IF YOU WERE WALKING

900
00:38:10,489 --> 00:38:11,790
ON THE WRONG SIDE
OF THE STREET,

901
00:38:11,823 --> 00:38:13,459
IF YOU SAID THE WRONG THING,

902
00:38:13,492 --> 00:38:14,893
IF YOU LOOKED SOMEBODY
IN THE EYE

903
00:38:14,926 --> 00:38:15,961
WHEN YOU'RE SUPPOSED
TO LOOK DOWN--

904
00:38:15,994 --> 00:38:17,829
ANYTHING COULD TRIGGER SOMETHING

905
00:38:17,929 --> 00:38:19,731
THAT WOULD END
IN YOU GETTING ARRESTED

906
00:38:19,765 --> 00:38:21,467
OR GETTING KILLED
OR GETTING LYNCHED,

907
00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:24,002
AND THERE WAS VERY LITTLE
YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.

908
00:38:24,069 --> 00:38:26,905
- I WASN'T AN EARLY PIONEER,

909
00:38:26,938 --> 00:38:28,774
BUT I EXPERIENCED
IN THE '50s

910
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,843
AMD IN THE '60s,
AS A YOUNG ATHLETE,

911
00:38:31,843 --> 00:38:34,613
BEING CALLED THE "N" WORD,

912
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:35,847
YOU KNOW, BEING TAUNTED.

913
00:38:35,847 --> 00:38:38,016
A LOT OF THINGS
THAT GET DISCUSSED

914
00:38:38,083 --> 00:38:40,118
ALONG THE LINES
OF AMERICA'S HISTORY

915
00:38:40,185 --> 00:38:42,020
SOMETIMES FALLS ON DEAF EARS.

916
00:38:42,020 --> 00:38:44,423
THERE ARE SOME GUYS
WHO JUST DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT.

917
00:38:44,490 --> 00:38:48,126
- IMAGINE BARNSTORMING
IN THE SOUTH

918
00:38:48,159 --> 00:38:51,630
AND HAVING WHITE PEOPLE
PRICK YOU WITH HAT PINS,

919
00:38:51,663 --> 00:38:55,434
PUT LIT CIGARS OUT ON YOU,

920
00:38:55,467 --> 00:38:59,137
CALLING YOU NAMES,
THROWING BOTTLES AT YOU,

921
00:38:59,204 --> 00:39:04,009
AND STILL PLAYING
EXCELLENT BASKETBALL

922
00:39:04,042 --> 00:39:06,878
WITH CLASS.

923
00:39:06,878 --> 00:39:08,547
- THERE WERE OCCASIONS
WHEN THE RENS

924
00:39:08,614 --> 00:39:10,048
WOULD COME ON THE COURT
WITH KNIVES

925
00:39:10,115 --> 00:39:12,451
PACKED IN THEIR SOCKS
TO PROTECT THEMSELVES

926
00:39:12,484 --> 00:39:13,852
FROM FANS
WHO MIGHT STORM THE COURT.

927
00:39:13,885 --> 00:39:15,521
- ALL THIS HAPPENED
IN THE BACKDROP

928
00:39:15,554 --> 00:39:18,724
OF THE PLAYERS BEING FATIGUED,
BEING INSULTED,

929
00:39:18,824 --> 00:39:21,793
OFTENTIMES TRYING
TO FIND A BATHROOM TO GO TO,

930
00:39:21,827 --> 00:39:24,062
PLACES TO EAT,
AND THE RIGORS OF TRAVELING

931
00:39:24,129 --> 00:39:25,831
IN THE RURAL PART
OF THIS COUNTRY.

932
00:39:25,897 --> 00:39:30,201
- THEY HAD A PHILOSOPHY THAT,
IF THINGS TURNED NEGATIVE,

933
00:39:30,235 --> 00:39:32,471
THEY WOULD GO BACK-TO-BACK,

934
00:39:32,504 --> 00:39:33,972
AND THEY'D HAVE TO FIGHT
THEIR WAY OUT.

935
00:39:34,005 --> 00:39:36,408
- THE GREATEST FIGURES
WEREN'T JUST GREAT

936
00:39:36,475 --> 00:39:38,510
AT WHAT THEY DID
IN TERMS OF TALENT,

937
00:39:38,577 --> 00:39:40,579
BUT THEY EMBODIED DIGNITY

938
00:39:40,579 --> 00:39:42,814
IN THE FACE OF OPPRESSION,

939
00:39:42,881 --> 00:39:45,016
DIGNITY IN THE FACE
OF INDIGNITIES.

940
00:39:45,050 --> 00:39:46,852
- COMPETITION IS TOUGH ENOUGH.

941
00:39:46,885 --> 00:39:48,987
AND NOW YOU GOT
ALL THESE EXTERNAL FACTORS

942
00:39:49,020 --> 00:39:51,189
THAT YOU GOT TO DEAL WITH,

943
00:39:51,256 --> 00:39:52,691
WHICH MAKES IT
EVEN MORE DIFFICULT.

944
00:39:52,724 --> 00:39:55,026
- BUT THE GAME
OF BASKETBALL WAS SO COMPELLING

945
00:39:55,060 --> 00:39:57,496
THAT THE PLAYERS
WERE SO MOTIVATED

946
00:39:57,529 --> 00:39:58,597
THAT THEY DID IT,
AND THEY DID IT IN FASHION.

947
00:39:58,664 --> 00:40:00,499
[train whistle blows]

948
00:40:00,566 --> 00:40:03,034
- THEY HAD A GAME IN ATLANTA,

949
00:40:03,068 --> 00:40:04,936
AND JOHN GOT SICK,

950
00:40:05,003 --> 00:40:07,105
SO HE MISSED THE BLUE GOOSE,

951
00:40:07,172 --> 00:40:09,174
SO HE SAID
HE WOULD TAKE A TRAIN

952
00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:10,008
THE NEXT DAY
AND MEET UP WITH THE TEAM,

953
00:40:10,041 --> 00:40:12,578
SO HE GOES
TO THE TRAIN STATION,

954
00:40:12,611 --> 00:40:15,881
AND THEY HAVE A LINE
THAT SAYS, "WHITES THIS LINE,

955
00:40:15,947 --> 00:40:19,451
COLORED THIS LINE."

956
00:40:19,518 --> 00:40:21,520
SO JOHN, HE DOESN'T PAY
ANY ATTENTION.

957
00:40:21,553 --> 00:40:23,722
HE GOES IN THE WHITE LINE.

958
00:40:23,755 --> 00:40:26,257
- I SAID, "MAY I HAVE A TICKET
TO ATLANTA, GEORGIA?"

959
00:40:26,291 --> 00:40:28,126
PUT MY MONEY UP THERE,

960
00:40:28,193 --> 00:40:30,562
AND THE NEXT VOICE
I HEARD WAS,

961
00:40:30,629 --> 00:40:32,130
"WHAT IS IT YOU WANT, BOY?"

962
00:40:32,130 --> 00:40:34,199
I SAID, "DO I LOOK LIKE A BOY?

963
00:40:34,265 --> 00:40:36,602
I'M AN ADULT
JUST LIKE YOU."

964
00:40:36,635 --> 00:40:40,238
NEXT VOICE, "YOU MUST BE
FROM UP NORTH."

965
00:40:40,271 --> 00:40:42,207
I SAID, "YES,
I'M FROM UP NORTH."

966
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:45,076
HE SAID, "WELL, BY GOD, WE DO
THINGS DIFFERENTLY DOWN HERE."

967
00:40:45,110 --> 00:40:46,945
NEW YORK'S TALKING AGAIN.

968
00:40:46,978 --> 00:40:48,714
"WELL, BY GOD,
YOU OUGHT TO CHANGE."

969
00:40:48,747 --> 00:40:50,582
- SO HE GOES OUT THE DOOR,

970
00:40:50,649 --> 00:40:53,752
HE GOES OVER
TO WHERE IT SAYS, "COLORED,"

971
00:40:53,785 --> 00:40:55,153
HE GOES OVER TO THE COUNTER,

972
00:40:55,220 --> 00:40:57,088
AND THE SAME GUY
JUST SHIFTS OVER

973
00:40:57,155 --> 00:41:00,258
AND SAYS, "CAN I HELP YOU?"
AND JOHN READ HIM THE RIOT ACT.

974
00:41:00,291 --> 00:41:01,827
BUT HE GOT HIS TICKET.

975
00:41:07,065 --> 00:41:10,235
- ONE OF THE THINGS
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT,

976
00:41:10,268 --> 00:41:11,937
THE WHITE SUPREMACY,

977
00:41:12,003 --> 00:41:14,606
A LOT OF PEOPLE
WOULD TRY TO ENFORCE IT

978
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,775
IN THE GAMES
THAT THE RENS PLAYED.

979
00:41:16,808 --> 00:41:20,612
SO THEY ENDED UP
WHERE THEY SAW THEMSELVES

980
00:41:20,646 --> 00:41:23,148
AS JUST ONE LITTLE UNIT
AGAINST THE WORLD.

981
00:41:23,181 --> 00:41:25,116
THE REFEREES
AND TIMEKEEPERS

982
00:41:25,150 --> 00:41:26,652
IN THE GAMES
THAT THEY PLAYED

983
00:41:26,685 --> 00:41:28,520
WOULD HAVE LOVED
TO SEE THEM LOSE.

984
00:41:28,587 --> 00:41:31,256
AND THAT WAS
JUST ONE MORE OBSTACLE

985
00:41:31,289 --> 00:41:32,791
FOR THEM TO OVERCOME.

986
00:41:36,995 --> 00:41:39,130
- WHEN WE WENT OUT
ON THE FLOOR,

987
00:41:39,164 --> 00:41:42,300
WE BELIEVED THAT WE
WERE PLAYING, NOT FIVE GUYS,

988
00:41:42,333 --> 00:41:46,104
BUT SEVEN--
THE REFEREE AND THE TIMEKEEPER.

989
00:41:46,137 --> 00:41:48,640
SO WE HAD TO PLAY HARDER

990
00:41:48,674 --> 00:41:50,709
AND STAY FURTHER IN FRONT.

991
00:41:50,776 --> 00:41:53,612
- IT WAS A WHITE GAME.

992
00:41:53,679 --> 00:41:55,213
WHEN YOU PLAY
AGAINST WHITE BALL CLUBS,

993
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,115
WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO
IN THAT ERA?

994
00:41:57,148 --> 00:41:58,617
DO YOU THINK THAT THEY'RE
GONNA JUST PLAY BASKETBALL?

995
00:41:58,650 --> 00:42:00,151
THEY WANT TO KILL YOU.

996
00:42:00,218 --> 00:42:01,987
YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO,
YOU KNOW, HARM YOU A LITTLE BIT

997
00:42:02,020 --> 00:42:05,056
IF THEY CAN.

998
00:42:05,123 --> 00:42:08,627
- THE RENS OFTEN PLAYED
TWO OR THREE GAMES A DAY,

999
00:42:08,694 --> 00:42:13,832
130 GAMES
AND 38,000 MILES PER SEASON.

1000
00:42:13,865 --> 00:42:16,902
AND TO SAY THEY DOMINATED
IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT.

1001
00:42:16,968 --> 00:42:18,837
IN JUST ONE YEAR,

1002
00:42:18,904 --> 00:42:22,641
THE '32-'33 SEASON,
THEY WON 88 GAMES IN A ROW,

1003
00:42:22,674 --> 00:42:25,977
WHICH INCLUDED GAMES
AGAINST THE ORIGINAL CELTICS.

1004
00:42:26,011 --> 00:42:28,179
- GROWING UP, ALL
OF THE SPORTS WRITERS WOULD SAY,

1005
00:42:28,246 --> 00:42:30,015
"OH, YOUR DAD PLAYED
FOR THE GREATEST TEAM

1006
00:42:30,048 --> 00:42:32,017
OF ALL TIME,"
AND EVERY SINGLE TIME

1007
00:42:32,050 --> 00:42:33,985
THAT MY FATHER HEARD THAT,
HE WOULD PULL ME ASIDE

1008
00:42:34,019 --> 00:42:36,354
AND SAY, "I DIDN'T PLAY FOR
THE GREATEST TEAM OF ALL TIME.

1009
00:42:36,387 --> 00:42:39,057
WE HAD A TEAM THAT COULD BEAT US
EVEN ALL THE TIME, THE RENS."

1010
00:42:39,090 --> 00:42:42,027
- AND AS THEY ENCOUNTERED
EACH OTHER AGAIN AND AGAIN,

1011
00:42:42,093 --> 00:42:43,862
THE RENS
AND THE ORIGINAL CELTICS

1012
00:42:43,895 --> 00:42:45,731
BECAME FRIENDS.

1013
00:42:45,764 --> 00:42:48,233
BUT THEY KEPT THE RIVALRY GOING
TO SELL TICKETS

1014
00:42:48,266 --> 00:42:51,937
SINCE BLACK VERSUS WHITE GAMES
OUTSOLD BLACK ON BLACK

1015
00:42:51,937 --> 00:42:54,272
AND WHITE ON WHITE
BY A LONG SHOT.

1016
00:42:54,372 --> 00:42:56,374
- THEY BEGAN TO UNDERSTAND

1017
00:42:56,407 --> 00:42:58,710
ABOUT THE LIVES
OF EACH OTHER

1018
00:42:58,744 --> 00:43:00,211
AND THE DIFFERENCES
IN THEIR LIVES.

1019
00:43:00,245 --> 00:43:01,747
I KNOW FROM MY FATHER,

1020
00:43:01,780 --> 00:43:04,115
HE FELT THAT HE BEGAN
TO UNDERSTAND

1021
00:43:04,115 --> 00:43:05,751
WHAT RACISM REALLY MEANT

1022
00:43:05,784 --> 00:43:08,754
BY WATCHING THE EFFECTS
OF RACISM ON THE RENS.

1023
00:43:08,787 --> 00:43:10,255
THREE TIMES
THEY LEFT TOWN IN TANDEM,

1024
00:43:10,288 --> 00:43:12,724
AND THE CELTICS PULLED UP

1025
00:43:12,791 --> 00:43:14,292
IN THEIR STUTZ BEARCATS
BEHIND THE RENS' BUS

1026
00:43:14,292 --> 00:43:16,127
TO SEE THE OWNER
OF THE GAS STATION

1027
00:43:16,194 --> 00:43:18,764
COME OUT WITH A RIFLE,
CHASING AWAY THE RENS

1028
00:43:18,797 --> 00:43:20,799
FROM HIS GAS STATION
BECAUSE HE WASN'T ABOUT

1029
00:43:20,866 --> 00:43:22,868
TO SERVE THIS GROUP
OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN PLAYERS

1030
00:43:22,934 --> 00:43:24,970
FROM HIS LILY-WHITE PUMPS.

1031
00:43:25,036 --> 00:43:26,772
IN FIVE OF THE GAMES THAT THEY
PLAYED AGAINST EACH OTHER,

1032
00:43:26,805 --> 00:43:28,406
THERE WERE ACTUALLY RACE RIOTS
THAT TOOK PLACE

1033
00:43:28,473 --> 00:43:30,275
DURING THE GAMES,
ANGRY FANS STORMING THE COURTS

1034
00:43:30,308 --> 00:43:32,077
'CAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT
TO SEE BLACK PLAYERS

1035
00:43:32,110 --> 00:43:35,413
AND WHITE PLAYERS MIXING
ON THE SAME--IN THE SAME ARENA.

1036
00:43:35,446 --> 00:43:37,783
- THE FANS IN SOME OF THE PLACES

1037
00:43:37,816 --> 00:43:39,751
WE WENT TO,
THEY WERE RIDICULOUS.

1038
00:43:39,818 --> 00:43:41,787
I'D RUN BY,
AND THEY'D TAKE AN UMBRELLA,

1039
00:43:41,820 --> 00:43:44,389
THE HANDLE
WOULD HOOK IN YOUR LEG,

1040
00:43:44,422 --> 00:43:46,391
AND YOU'D GO SLIDING
ALONG THE FLOOR.

1041
00:43:46,424 --> 00:43:48,927
- WITH DOUGLAS MANAGING
THE RENNIE,

1042
00:43:48,994 --> 00:43:52,798
ERIC ILLIDGE BECAME THE RENS'
FINANCIAL MANAGER.

1043
00:43:52,831 --> 00:43:55,433
- ON THE ROAD, MR. DOUGLAS,
HE LEFT EVERYTHING

1044
00:43:55,466 --> 00:43:57,402
UP TO ONE PERSON,
ERIC ILLIDGE.

1045
00:43:57,435 --> 00:43:58,804
HE WAS THE ROAD MANAGER.

1046
00:43:58,837 --> 00:44:01,006
- HE WAS THE GUY--
HIS SOLE JOB

1047
00:44:01,106 --> 00:44:02,908
WAS TO GET THE MONEY.

1048
00:44:02,941 --> 00:44:06,845
- SOMETIMES SHYSTER PROMOTERS
WOULD WANT TO GET OUT

1049
00:44:06,912 --> 00:44:10,081
WITH ALL THE MONEY
AND LEAVE THE RENS HIGH AND DRY.

1050
00:44:10,115 --> 00:44:12,984
- THE OWNERS WOULD CONSISTENTLY
TRY TO GIVE THE RENS CHECKS,

1051
00:44:13,018 --> 00:44:14,786
EVEN THOUGH
IT WAS A CASH GUARANTEE,

1052
00:44:14,853 --> 00:44:17,455
IF THERE WASN'T
ENOUGH CASH AROUND MAYBE,

1053
00:44:17,488 --> 00:44:19,324
AND GIVE THE CELTICS
THE CASH.

1054
00:44:19,357 --> 00:44:20,992
- THE GUY WHO BOOKED THE GAME
COMES UP

1055
00:44:21,026 --> 00:44:23,461
AND SAYS, "COACH LAPCHICK,
HERE'S YOUR PAYMENT,"

1056
00:44:23,494 --> 00:44:28,333
AND GAVE HIM $500 IN CASH.

1057
00:44:28,366 --> 00:44:31,169
HERE COMES BOB DOUGLAS,
HE GIVES HIM A CHECK.

1058
00:44:31,202 --> 00:44:33,304
- AND MY FATHER KNEW
OR ASSUMED

1059
00:44:33,338 --> 00:44:34,873
WHAT THE OUTCOME WOULD BE

1060
00:44:34,940 --> 00:44:36,174
WAS THAT THE RENS
WOULD NEVER GET PAID.

1061
00:44:36,207 --> 00:44:37,475
- HE SAID, "NO, NO,
WAIT A MINUTE.

1062
00:44:37,542 --> 00:44:39,878
"GIVE BOB THE CASH.

1063
00:44:39,878 --> 00:44:42,447
I CAN ALWAYS CASH MY CHECK."

1064
00:44:42,513 --> 00:44:44,816
ASIDE FROM BASKETBALL,

1065
00:44:44,850 --> 00:44:46,317
THAT SHOWS THE HUMANITY,

1066
00:44:46,351 --> 00:44:50,021
THE CARE,
BUT THE WAY THINGS WERE.

1067
00:44:50,055 --> 00:44:52,858
- TODAY, SEEING BLACK
AND WHITE PLAYERS

1068
00:44:52,891 --> 00:44:56,361
ON A COURT IS A GIVEN.

1069
00:44:56,394 --> 00:44:59,230
AND EVEN PUBLIC DISPLAYS
OF AFFECTION

1070
00:44:59,230 --> 00:45:01,900
BETWEEN BLACK AND WHITE PLAYERS
ARE COMMONPLACE.

1071
00:45:05,470 --> 00:45:08,907
BUT BACK THEN,
IT WAS SHOCKING.

1072
00:45:08,974 --> 00:45:12,744
- IN LOUISVILLE,
MY DAD WENT ON THE COURT

1073
00:45:12,811 --> 00:45:15,180
AND WENT UP TO TARZAN COOPER
AND KISSED HIM ON THE CHEEK,

1074
00:45:15,246 --> 00:45:16,514
AND, WHEN THEY GOT BACK
TO THE HOTEL

1075
00:45:16,547 --> 00:45:18,416
THAT THE CELTICS
WERE STAYING AT,

1076
00:45:18,483 --> 00:45:20,385
THEY FOUND OUT THAT THEY HAD
BEEN EVICTED FROM THE HOTEL

1077
00:45:20,418 --> 00:45:22,253
AND THAT THE GAME THE NEXT NIGHT
HAD BEEN CANCELED.

1078
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,756
- WHEN WE GOT READY TO LEAVE,

1079
00:45:24,823 --> 00:45:29,094
THEY HAD TO BACK A PADDY WAGON
UP FLAT UP AGAINST THE DOOR.

1080
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:30,996
"BRING YOUR CLOTHES WITH YOU.

1081
00:45:31,062 --> 00:45:32,230
"DON'T BOTHER TO GET DRESSED.

1082
00:45:32,263 --> 00:45:33,498
"JUST BRING YOUR CLOTHES
WITH YOU

1083
00:45:33,564 --> 00:45:35,200
AND GET IN THE PADDY WAGON."

1084
00:45:35,233 --> 00:45:36,367
GOOD THING WE LEFT OUR BUS,

1085
00:45:36,401 --> 00:45:39,070
LIKE, THREE BLOCKS AWAY.

1086
00:45:41,106 --> 00:45:44,776
- ERIC ILLIDGE CARRIED A PISTOL
EVERYWHERE HE WENT.

1087
00:45:44,843 --> 00:45:50,215
HE SAID WE WERE NOT GOING
TO LET ANYONE

1088
00:45:50,281 --> 00:45:54,886
PREVENT US FROM MAKING A LIVING.

1089
00:45:59,124 --> 00:46:04,029
- I MEAN, THE BACKDROP IS THAT
TO BE BLACK IN AMERICA

1090
00:46:04,062 --> 00:46:07,565
FOR 350 YEARS
WAS TO TRY TO PRESERVE

1091
00:46:07,632 --> 00:46:09,801
YOUR SANITY, DIGNITY,
AND INTEGRITY

1092
00:46:09,868 --> 00:46:14,239
IN THE FACE OF BEING TERRORIZED,
TRAUMATIZED,

1093
00:46:14,305 --> 00:46:16,107
AND STIGMATIZED.

1094
00:46:16,141 --> 00:46:19,377
AND NO OTHER PEOPLE'S
HAD TO DEAL WITH TERROR

1095
00:46:19,410 --> 00:46:21,246
ON THE PLANTATION,

1096
00:46:21,312 --> 00:46:23,081
TERROR HANGING FROM THE TREES,

1097
00:46:23,114 --> 00:46:26,051
TRAUMATIZED BECAUSE,
EARLY ON,

1098
00:46:26,084 --> 00:46:27,318
YOU'RE TOLD YOU'RE LESS
BEAUTIFUL, YOU'RE LESS MORE,

1099
00:46:27,385 --> 00:46:28,920
YOU'RE LESS INTELLIGENT.

1100
00:46:28,987 --> 00:46:31,990
AND THEN STIGMATIZED--
KEEP TRACK OF 'EM.

1101
00:46:32,057 --> 00:46:35,160
YOU GOT THAT BADGE
OF BLACKNESS, YOU SEE.

1102
00:46:46,404 --> 00:46:48,473
- THEN JOE LOUIS CAME ALONG.

1103
00:46:48,506 --> 00:46:50,842
MY LORD.

1104
00:46:54,112 --> 00:46:55,947
AND WHAT IT MEANT
IN A LITTLE VILLAGE

1105
00:46:56,014 --> 00:46:59,417
IN ARKANSAS
AT MY GRANDMOTHER'S STORE...

1106
00:46:59,450 --> 00:47:02,287
WHEN ALL THE BLACKS
SAT AROUND THE STORE

1107
00:47:02,353 --> 00:47:04,589
AND MADE LUNCHES,
CHEESE SANDWICHES.

1108
00:47:04,622 --> 00:47:06,457
THEN THE RADIO WOULD COME ON.

1109
00:47:06,524 --> 00:47:09,094
- THE DETROIT BROWN BOMBER.

1110
00:47:09,127 --> 00:47:10,461
- AND THIS VOICE WOULD SAY,

1111
00:47:10,528 --> 00:47:14,499
"AND NOW JOE LOUIS..."
[muttering]

1112
00:47:14,532 --> 00:47:17,035
AND, I MEAN, HE WAS
FIGHTING SCHMELING.

1113
00:47:17,102 --> 00:47:20,438
- ALWAYS A GREAT CREDIT
TO HIS CHOSEN PROFESSION

1114
00:47:20,505 --> 00:47:23,341
AND THE RACE
HE REPRESENTS,

1115
00:47:23,374 --> 00:47:26,544
THE HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION
OF THE WORLD,

1116
00:47:26,644 --> 00:47:28,013
JOE LOUIS.

1117
00:47:28,046 --> 00:47:30,115
- AND SCHMELING JUST HIT HIM--

1118
00:47:30,181 --> 00:47:31,182
OH, THE PEOPLE WOULD GROAN.

1119
00:47:31,216 --> 00:47:33,118
GROAN.

1120
00:47:33,184 --> 00:47:34,886
IT WAS OUR PEOPLE FALLING.

1121
00:47:34,953 --> 00:47:37,055
IT WAS BACK IN SLAVERY.

1122
00:47:37,122 --> 00:47:39,457
IT WAS THE END OF EVERYTHING.

1123
00:47:39,490 --> 00:47:41,960
AND THEN HE SAID,

1124
00:47:41,993 --> 00:47:43,494
"LOUIS IS UP,
"AND HE'S HIT HIM.

1125
00:47:43,561 --> 00:47:44,996
"HE'S HIT HIM WITH A LEFT.

1126
00:47:45,030 --> 00:47:46,397
"AND THERE HE IS
WITH A RIGHT.

1127
00:47:46,464 --> 00:47:47,899
"AND HE'S--
AND HE'S GOING DOWN,

1128
00:47:47,966 --> 00:47:49,400
"LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
HE'S GOING DOWN.

1129
00:47:49,467 --> 00:47:52,537
AND HERE IT IS.
ONE, TWO..."

1130
00:47:52,570 --> 00:47:54,472
AND ALL THE PEOPLE SHOUTED.

1131
00:47:54,539 --> 00:47:58,409
- FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT...

1132
00:47:58,476 --> 00:48:00,311
- AND HE HELD UP HIS HAND

1133
00:48:00,345 --> 00:48:02,513
AND HE SAID,
"LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,

1134
00:48:02,580 --> 00:48:06,484
THE CHAMPION OF THE WORLD."

1135
00:48:06,517 --> 00:48:08,186
[cheers and applause]

1136
00:48:08,253 --> 00:48:09,687
"CHAMPINE."
- JOE LOUIS!

1137
00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:11,990
- JOE LOUIS!

1138
00:48:12,023 --> 00:48:13,992
AND THE PEOPLE CRIED,

1139
00:48:14,025 --> 00:48:16,694
AND I CAN CRY NOW.

1140
00:48:16,761 --> 00:48:20,398
AND PEOPLE WHO LIVED
TOO FAR AWAY

1141
00:48:20,431 --> 00:48:22,500
STAYED, SLEPT.

1142
00:48:22,533 --> 00:48:24,235
WE MADE PALLETS FOR THEM

1143
00:48:24,269 --> 00:48:25,937
ON THE PORCH

1144
00:48:26,004 --> 00:48:28,006
AND INSIDE THE STORE.

1145
00:48:28,039 --> 00:48:30,575
BECAUSE IT WAS DANGEROUS
FOR ANY BLACK MAN

1146
00:48:30,608 --> 00:48:33,611
TO BE ON A DIRT ROAD

1147
00:48:33,678 --> 00:48:36,447
ON A NIGHT WHEN JOE LOUIS
HAD JUST PROVED

1148
00:48:36,514 --> 00:48:41,119
WE WERE THE STRONGEST PEOPLE
IN THE WORLD.

1149
00:48:41,186 --> 00:48:46,357
[cheers and applause]

1150
00:48:46,424 --> 00:48:48,459
- THE STRONGEST PEOPLE
IN THE WORLD

1151
00:48:48,526 --> 00:48:50,561
STILL HAD TO MAKE A LIVING,

1152
00:48:50,628 --> 00:48:54,099
EVEN IN RACIST STATES
LIKE INDIANA.

1153
00:48:54,132 --> 00:48:56,467
- YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TALKED
ABOUT ALABAMA

1154
00:48:56,534 --> 00:48:59,070
AND THE SOUTH
AND THE LYNCHINGS.

1155
00:48:59,137 --> 00:49:01,139
I DON'T THINK
ANYTHING COULD HAVE TOPPED

1156
00:49:01,139 --> 00:49:03,141
THE STATE OF INDIANA

1157
00:49:03,208 --> 00:49:05,543
'CAUSE IT WAS THE BIRTH
OF THE KU KLUX KLAN.

1158
00:49:05,576 --> 00:49:06,744
BUT THE RENS PLAYED THERE.

1159
00:49:06,777 --> 00:49:08,113
THEY PLAYED THERE A LOT.

1160
00:49:08,146 --> 00:49:09,447
- THERE, THEY WERE DESTINED

1161
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,249
TO MEET A COMPETITOR

1162
00:49:11,282 --> 00:49:13,618
WHO WOULD EVENTUALLY
BECOME KNOWN SIMPLY AS COACH,

1163
00:49:13,651 --> 00:49:15,653
THE LEGENDARY JOHN WOODEN.

1164
00:49:15,720 --> 00:49:17,555
- MY COLLEGE COACH
JOHN WOODEN

1165
00:49:17,588 --> 00:49:19,657
PLAYED AGAINST THE RENS OFTEN

1166
00:49:19,724 --> 00:49:21,659
WHEN THEY BARNSTORMED
IN THE MIDWEST.

1167
00:49:21,726 --> 00:49:24,429
AND HE WILL TELL YOU

1168
00:49:24,495 --> 00:49:26,731
THAT THEY WERE THE BEST TEAM
THAT HE EVER SAW PLAY.

1169
00:49:26,764 --> 00:49:29,667
- WHEN WE GOT TO PLAY 'EM,
IT WAS REALLY A TREAT.

1170
00:49:29,734 --> 00:49:34,239
BUTLER FIELDHOUSE,
WHICH SEATED MAYBE 18,000,

1171
00:49:34,272 --> 00:49:35,673
THEY'D BE TURNING 'EM AWAY.

1172
00:49:35,740 --> 00:49:38,676
- HIS PRESS WAS PART
OF WHAT HE HAD LEARNED

1173
00:49:38,743 --> 00:49:41,079
PLAYING AGAINST THE RENS.

1174
00:49:41,112 --> 00:49:44,782
PRESSURE DEFENSE
AND NOT GIVING ANYBODY A CHANCE

1175
00:49:44,849 --> 00:49:48,819
TO--TO FREELY ROAM
AROUND THE COURT.

1176
00:49:48,853 --> 00:49:51,522
- MOST OF THE TIMES
WE PLAYED THE RENS,

1177
00:49:51,589 --> 00:49:54,159
YOU COULD SAY
THAT THEY'RE GONNA BEAT US.

1178
00:49:54,192 --> 00:49:56,427
BUT IT'LL ONLY BE
BY TWO OR THREE POINTS.

1179
00:49:56,494 --> 00:49:59,297
- I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT INCREDIBLE CROWDS

1180
00:49:59,330 --> 00:50:03,168
TO SEE
THIS BLACK BASKETBALL TEAM

1181
00:50:03,201 --> 00:50:06,504
THAT WAS NOT ACCEPTED
IN HOTELS AND RESTAURANTS,

1182
00:50:06,537 --> 00:50:09,207
PROBABLY IN THE TOWNS
THEY WERE PLAYING IN,

1183
00:50:09,307 --> 00:50:12,477
AND YET EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD
THE EXCELLENCE.

1184
00:50:12,543 --> 00:50:15,546
EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD

1185
00:50:15,546 --> 00:50:18,649
HOW SMOOTH THEY WERE.

1186
00:50:18,716 --> 00:50:20,818
- WHILE THE RENS CONTINUED
TO PERFECT

1187
00:50:20,851 --> 00:50:23,054
THEIR AGGRESSIVE GAME
AND ATTITUDE,

1188
00:50:23,121 --> 00:50:25,523
THERE WAS ANOTHER BLACK TEAM
THAT HAD FOUND

1189
00:50:25,556 --> 00:50:27,125
A WHOLE DIFFERENT WAY TO PLAY.

1190
00:50:27,192 --> 00:50:28,793
- COMING TO YOU FROM
THE COTTON CLUB IN HARLEM...

1191
00:50:28,826 --> 00:50:31,462
- THEY REFLECTED
ANOTHER HARLEM.

1192
00:50:31,496 --> 00:50:34,065
[upbeat jazz music]

1193
00:50:34,132 --> 00:50:36,134
ONE THAT CATERED
TO A WHITE AUDIENCE,

1194
00:50:36,167 --> 00:50:39,737
PRESENTING A MORE AGREEABLE
IMAGE OF BLACKS.

1195
00:50:39,804 --> 00:50:46,644
*

1196
00:50:46,711 --> 00:50:49,214
- WHITE BROTHERS AND SISTERS
COME UPTOWN

1197
00:50:49,247 --> 00:50:53,151
AND SEE BLACK PEOPLE
AS EXOTIC, AS PRIMITIVE,

1198
00:50:53,184 --> 00:50:56,521
AS PUTTING ON A SHOW
FOR THEM

1199
00:50:56,587 --> 00:51:00,225
AND NOT DIGGING DEEP INTO THE
RICH HUMANITY OF BLACK PEOPLE.

1200
00:51:00,258 --> 00:51:02,560
SO BLACK PEOPLE
ON THE ONE HAND

1201
00:51:02,593 --> 00:51:04,895
CELEBRATING OUR HUMANITY,

1202
00:51:04,929 --> 00:51:06,764
MOST OF THE WHITE BROTHERS
AND SISTERS

1203
00:51:06,764 --> 00:51:09,334
ON THE OTHER
WANTING BLACK PEOPLE

1204
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:10,601
TO BE ALMOST MINSTREL-LIKE,

1205
00:51:10,668 --> 00:51:12,603
WANTING BLACK PEOPLE
TO TITILLATE

1206
00:51:12,670 --> 00:51:15,240
AND STIMULATE THEM,
WANTING BLACK PEOPLE

1207
00:51:15,273 --> 00:51:17,875
TO TAKE THEM CLOSER TO NATURE
BECAUSE, OF COURSE,

1208
00:51:17,942 --> 00:51:19,877
PART OF RACISM,
PART OF THE LEGACY

1209
00:51:19,910 --> 00:51:21,379
OF WHITE SUPREMACY
IS THIS NOTION

1210
00:51:21,412 --> 00:51:23,248
THAT BLACK PEOPLE
ARE CLOSER TO NATURE

1211
00:51:23,281 --> 00:51:25,583
AND FAR REMOVED
FROM INTELLIGENCE.

1212
00:51:25,616 --> 00:51:29,454
- THE GLOBETROTTERS PRESENTED
A MORE DOCILE,

1213
00:51:29,554 --> 00:51:32,223
LESS THREATENING IMAGE
OF THE BLACK PLAYER

1214
00:51:32,290 --> 00:51:33,624
THAN THE RENS DID,

1215
00:51:33,624 --> 00:51:36,594
INCORPORATING TRICKS
AND COMIC ROUTINES

1216
00:51:36,627 --> 00:51:38,229
INTO THEIR ACT.

1217
00:51:38,296 --> 00:51:40,598
EVEN THEIR NAME,
THE HARLEM GLOBETROTTERS,

1218
00:51:40,631 --> 00:51:42,767
WAS NOT QUITE REAL,

1219
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,604
IN THAT THEY DIDN'T TROT
THE GLOBE OR COME FROM HARLEM.

1220
00:51:46,637 --> 00:51:47,905
THEY WERE FROM CHICAGO.

1221
00:51:47,938 --> 00:51:50,375
BUT THEIR OWNER ABE SAPERSTEIN

1222
00:51:50,408 --> 00:51:52,310
WANTED TO MAKE SURE
EVERYONE KNEW

1223
00:51:52,377 --> 00:51:53,544
THEY WERE BLACK.

1224
00:51:53,578 --> 00:51:55,146
- WHEN I WAS A KID,
I THOUGHT

1225
00:51:55,213 --> 00:51:57,215
THE GLOBETROTTERS
WERE FROM HARLEM.

1226
00:51:57,248 --> 00:51:58,749
I DIDN'T KNOW
THAT THEY WERE FROM CHICAGO.

1227
00:51:58,816 --> 00:52:01,586
I WAS A PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE
BEFORE I REALIZED

1228
00:52:01,619 --> 00:52:04,589
THAT THE GLOBETROTTERS
WERE FROM ILLINOIS.

1229
00:52:04,622 --> 00:52:06,291
- ABE KNEW THAT,
WHEN HE WENT INTO THE TOWNS,

1230
00:52:06,324 --> 00:52:08,659
THE SMALL TOWNS
LIKE WATERLOO, IOWA,

1231
00:52:08,726 --> 00:52:11,596
OR SOMEPLACE,
THAT HE HAD TO PREANNOUNCE

1232
00:52:11,662 --> 00:52:14,499
THE TEAM COMING IN
WAS AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN TEAM.

1233
00:52:14,565 --> 00:52:15,766
AND THE WAY HE DID THAT

1234
00:52:15,833 --> 00:52:17,668
WITHOUT A LOT OF FANFARE

1235
00:52:17,735 --> 00:52:20,438
WAS PUT THE NAME--ATTACH HARLEM
TO THE FRONT OF THE NAME.

1236
00:52:20,505 --> 00:52:21,772
AND WHEN THEY'D SHOW UP
IN A CITY,

1237
00:52:21,806 --> 00:52:23,308
PEOPLE EXPECTED TO SEE A TROUPE

1238
00:52:23,341 --> 00:52:25,443
OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN ENTERTAINERS
COME IN.

1239
00:52:25,510 --> 00:52:27,478
NO ONE WAS SHOCKED.

1240
00:52:27,512 --> 00:52:29,614
THE ONLY THING THEY WERE SHOCKED
ABOUT WAS HOW GOOD THEY WERE.

1241
00:52:29,647 --> 00:52:31,249
BUT HE WOULD SOFTEN THAT A BIT

1242
00:52:31,282 --> 00:52:32,917
BY PUTTING ON
THE ENTERTAINMENT PIECE.

1243
00:52:32,950 --> 00:52:36,954
- AND THEIR COACHES TOO
HAD WILDLY DIFFERENT STYLES.

1244
00:52:37,021 --> 00:52:40,258
THE BLACK PRESS WAS MOSTLY
IN SMILIN' BOB'S CAMP,

1245
00:52:40,291 --> 00:52:42,493
CALLING HIM THE FATHER
OF BLACK BASKETBALL

1246
00:52:42,527 --> 00:52:44,495
OR THE CAGER KING,

1247
00:52:44,529 --> 00:52:47,798
WHILE ABE WAS CALLED SQUAT,
PUDGY,

1248
00:52:47,865 --> 00:52:50,768
ROLY-POLY,
OR EVEN THE BOWLING BALL.

1249
00:52:50,801 --> 00:52:53,971
AND SMILING BOB'S PLAYERS
LOVED HIM.

1250
00:52:54,038 --> 00:52:55,873
- HE WAS A TRULY HONEST MAN.

1251
00:52:55,940 --> 00:52:57,442
HE WAS NOT A POLITICIAN.

1252
00:52:57,475 --> 00:53:00,311
- HE WAS A MAN
OF HIGH INTEGRITY,

1253
00:53:00,378 --> 00:53:02,380
A MAN WHO WAS VERY, VERY SMART.

1254
00:53:02,447 --> 00:53:06,517
HE KNEW BUSINESS
LIKE THE BACK OF HIS HAND,

1255
00:53:06,551 --> 00:53:08,519
AND HIS WORD
WAS HIS BOND.

1256
00:53:08,553 --> 00:53:10,288
- AND THEY WERE VERY PROUD
IN NEW YORK

1257
00:53:10,355 --> 00:53:12,357
AND BALTIMORE
AND BOSTON

1258
00:53:12,390 --> 00:53:15,493
TO SAY I'M PART
OF BOB DOUGLAS'S ORGANIZATION.

1259
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,695
HE WAS A MAN
THAT PEOPLE IDOLIZED

1260
00:53:17,728 --> 00:53:19,464
AND LOOKED UP TO
AS AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN

1261
00:53:19,497 --> 00:53:21,499
WHO HAD DONE WELL,
BUT ALSO A VERY LOYAL LEADER.

1262
00:53:21,532 --> 00:53:23,901
I THINK HIS LEADERSHIP
CANNOT BE OVERLOOKED.

1263
00:53:23,968 --> 00:53:25,970
- ABE'S PLAYERS,
ON THE OTHER HAND,

1264
00:53:26,036 --> 00:53:27,905
WEREN'T AS KIND.

1265
00:53:27,972 --> 00:53:30,875
- ABE SAPERSTEIN
IS ABOUT THE MONEY

1266
00:53:30,908 --> 00:53:32,810
AND HE'S ABOUT KEEPING YOU
IN YOUR PLACE.

1267
00:53:32,877 --> 00:53:34,044
HE WAS GOD.

1268
00:53:34,078 --> 00:53:35,913
- HERE'S THE DIFFERENCE.

1269
00:53:35,913 --> 00:53:37,915
IF YOU'RE ON A TEAM
THAT'S A TOP TEAM

1270
00:53:38,015 --> 00:53:41,386
AND YOU'RE LIKE THE YANKEES,
YOU'RE GONNA GO FIRST CLASS,

1271
00:53:41,419 --> 00:53:43,020
YOU'RE GONNA BE A BETTER TEAM,
RIGHT?

1272
00:53:43,087 --> 00:53:45,055
ABE WASN'T LIKE THAT.

1273
00:53:45,089 --> 00:53:47,725
THEY WERE UNDERPAID.

1274
00:53:47,758 --> 00:53:49,394
THEY WEREN'T TREATED RIGHT.

1275
00:53:49,427 --> 00:53:51,028
- HE'D NEVER GIVE HIS WORD,
YOU KNOW.

1276
00:53:51,061 --> 00:53:54,365
HE WANTED TO KEEP YOU HUMBLE.

1277
00:53:54,399 --> 00:53:58,403
I NEVER CALLED HIM
MR. SAPERSTEIN OR SKIP.

1278
00:53:58,436 --> 00:54:00,338
THE MANAGERS AND THE COACHES,

1279
00:54:00,371 --> 00:54:01,872
THEY WERE ALL SCARED OF ABE.

1280
00:54:01,939 --> 00:54:03,874
THEY WANTED THEIR JOB.

1281
00:54:03,908 --> 00:54:05,410
I CALLED HIM ABE.

1282
00:54:05,443 --> 00:54:07,011
- ABE REPRESENTED TO ME

1283
00:54:07,077 --> 00:54:10,781
A PERSON WHO, "A",
WAS AN OPPORTUNIST,

1284
00:54:10,848 --> 00:54:13,384
AND "B",
WAS INDIFFERENT

1285
00:54:13,451 --> 00:54:15,620
TO THE ISSUE OF RACE
WHEN IT CAME TO MARKETING

1286
00:54:15,620 --> 00:54:16,954
AND PROMOTION.

1287
00:54:17,054 --> 00:54:20,057
HE ALSO WAS A PERSON
OF GREAT VISION.

1288
00:54:20,124 --> 00:54:23,628
AND I TOLD THE STORY
THAT ABE ONCE TOLD ME

1289
00:54:23,628 --> 00:54:25,696
THAT THE GAME OF BASKETBALL

1290
00:54:25,763 --> 00:54:27,598
WAS A BLACK MAN'S GAME.

1291
00:54:27,632 --> 00:54:29,434
HE BELIEVED THE DISENFRANCHISED
TOOK THIS GAME UP

1292
00:54:29,467 --> 00:54:31,569
BECAUSE IT WAS EASY TO PLAY,

1293
00:54:31,602 --> 00:54:33,604
THE ECONOMICS WERE THERE,

1294
00:54:33,638 --> 00:54:36,307
AND IT WAS A GAME THAT YOU
COULD ADOPT TO YOUR LIFESTYLE.

1295
00:54:40,978 --> 00:54:43,314
- THE GLOBETROTTERS WERE WINNING

1296
00:54:43,381 --> 00:54:46,717
AN IMPRESSIVE 90%
OF THEIR GAMES.

1297
00:54:46,751 --> 00:54:49,787
- THEY WOULD PUT THEIR SHOW ON
IF YOU WERE BEING DEFEATED,

1298
00:54:49,820 --> 00:54:50,888
BUT IF YOU WERE CLOSE TO THEM,

1299
00:54:50,955 --> 00:54:52,790
THEY WOULDN'T PUT THEIR SHOW ON.

1300
00:54:52,823 --> 00:54:53,924
THEY'D PLAY
THEIR STRAIGHT BASKETBALL.

1301
00:54:53,991 --> 00:54:55,793
- BUT THEY WERE STILL CONSIDERED

1302
00:54:55,826 --> 00:54:57,495
A NOVELTY ACT.

1303
00:54:57,495 --> 00:55:00,331
- THEY WERE A FIRST-RATE,
WORLD-CLASS TEAM,

1304
00:55:00,431 --> 00:55:02,900
BUT I THINK THEIR WILLINGNESS
TO CATER

1305
00:55:02,933 --> 00:55:06,904
TO NEGATIVE STEREOTYPES
WAS UNFORTUNATE.

1306
00:55:06,937 --> 00:55:10,475
- THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEBODY
ON THE PLANTATION

1307
00:55:10,508 --> 00:55:12,910
WHO'S SENT UP TO THE BIG HOUSE.

1308
00:55:12,977 --> 00:55:14,779
THEY GIVE HIM THAT BANJO

1309
00:55:14,812 --> 00:55:17,482
OR DO A JIG,

1310
00:55:17,515 --> 00:55:21,786
AND...THIS IS SOMETHING
THAT I'VE HAD TO STRUGGLE WITH,

1311
00:55:21,852 --> 00:55:23,654
BECAUSE THERE'S A DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN SOMEONE--

1312
00:55:23,688 --> 00:55:25,790
PEOPLE LAUGHING WITH YOU

1313
00:55:25,823 --> 00:55:28,526
AND PEOPLE LAUGHING AT YOU.

1314
00:55:28,593 --> 00:55:30,461
- NOW THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN
IN THE STREET WOULD SAY,

1315
00:55:30,528 --> 00:55:32,497
"WE LIKE THE GLOBETROTTERS.
THEY'RE A LOT OF FUN,

1316
00:55:32,530 --> 00:55:33,998
"BUT THAT'S A WHITE PERSON'S
ORGANIZATION AND SHILL,

1317
00:55:34,031 --> 00:55:35,700
A WHITE LEADER AND ALL."

1318
00:55:35,700 --> 00:55:38,469
THEY MAY ALSO BE OFFENDED
BY THE ENTERTAINMENT ASPECT,

1319
00:55:38,536 --> 00:55:40,438
THE FACT THAT THEY WERE REMINDED

1320
00:55:40,471 --> 00:55:41,972
OF THE MINSTREL SHOWS
OF STEPIN FETCHIT

1321
00:55:42,039 --> 00:55:43,708
AND THAT KIND OF STUFF...

1322
00:55:43,708 --> 00:55:47,812
WHERE THE RENS WERE PORTRAYED
AS HARDCORE WARRIORS.

1323
00:55:47,878 --> 00:55:48,879
HARDCORE WARRIORS.

1324
00:55:48,946 --> 00:55:50,481
- DOUGLAS USED THE TERM,

1325
00:55:50,548 --> 00:55:51,849
PARTICULARLY IN THE LATER YEARS,

1326
00:55:51,882 --> 00:55:53,384
THEY WERE NOT
BURLESQUE BASKETBALL.

1327
00:55:53,451 --> 00:55:55,620
HE WOULDN'T GO THE ROUTE
OF SAPERSTEIN

1328
00:55:55,686 --> 00:55:59,056
AND THE GLOBETROTTERS
AS JUST AN ENTERTAINMENT ASPECT.

1329
00:55:59,123 --> 00:56:00,625
IT HAD TO BE BASKETBALL.

1330
00:56:00,691 --> 00:56:04,529
- THE GLOBETROTTERS
CARRIED THE BURDEN

1331
00:56:04,562 --> 00:56:07,732
OF TRYING TO EMULATE
THE RENS

1332
00:56:07,832 --> 00:56:10,134
IN LIFESTYLE
AND IN REPUTATION

1333
00:56:10,167 --> 00:56:13,137
AS WELL AS TRYING TO ENTERTAIN

1334
00:56:13,170 --> 00:56:15,172
AND MAKE THEMSELVES
NON-THREATENING TO WHITES.

1335
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,576
BOB DOUGLAS DIDN'T CARE
ABOUT THAT.

1336
00:56:18,576 --> 00:56:20,811
BOB DOUGLAS'S TEAM
WAS ON THE COURT TO PLAY

1337
00:56:20,878 --> 00:56:21,812
AND TO WIN.

1338
00:56:21,846 --> 00:56:23,581
AND WIN THEIR WAY.

1339
00:56:23,648 --> 00:56:27,017
- IN PUBLIC, SAPERSTEIN
WOULD CHALLENGE THE RENS

1340
00:56:27,084 --> 00:56:29,186
TO COMPETE
AGAINST HIS GLOBETROTTERS.

1341
00:56:29,219 --> 00:56:30,988
AND DOUGLAS AND HIS TEAM
SAID THEY WERE READY.

1342
00:56:31,021 --> 00:56:32,923
BUT BEHIND SCENES,

1343
00:56:32,990 --> 00:56:35,493
SAPERSTEIN
DIDN'T FOLLOW THROUGH.

1344
00:56:35,526 --> 00:56:38,195
THE BOTTOM LINE WAS THE RENS
AND THE GLOBETROTTERS

1345
00:56:38,228 --> 00:56:40,865
HAD COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STYLES.

1346
00:56:40,898 --> 00:56:45,870
IN 1939, SAPERSTEIN MADE
THIS BOLD PUBLIC STATEMENT--

1347
00:56:45,903 --> 00:56:48,873
- "I'VE BEEN CHALLENGING
THE RENAISSANCE BIG FIVE

1348
00:56:48,906 --> 00:56:50,908
"FOR FOUR YEARS.
FOUR YEARS!

1349
00:56:50,941 --> 00:56:53,243
"THEY ARE TERRIFIED
TO PLAY US

1350
00:56:53,277 --> 00:56:57,848
BECAUSE WE ARE
THE STRONGER TEAM."

1351
00:56:57,882 --> 00:56:59,717
- ROAD MANAGER ERIC ILLIDGE

1352
00:56:59,784 --> 00:57:01,251
BLEW A FUSE.

1353
00:57:01,285 --> 00:57:03,621
"AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED,"
HE SAID,

1354
00:57:03,688 --> 00:57:06,123
"THE GLOBETROTTERS ARE NOTHING
BUT CLOWNS OF THE COURT.

1355
00:57:06,190 --> 00:57:08,025
"WE WILL PLAY
THE HARLEM GLOBETROTTERS

1356
00:57:08,058 --> 00:57:10,127
ANYTIME, ANYWHERE."

1357
00:57:10,194 --> 00:57:13,764
EVEN THE PRESS WANTED
THIS PRETEND RIVALRY SETTLED.

1358
00:57:26,977 --> 00:57:28,946
ABE SAPERSTEIN NEVER DID ANSWER.

1359
00:57:28,979 --> 00:57:31,248
BUT HE AND SMILING BOB DOUGLAS

1360
00:57:31,315 --> 00:57:34,251
WERE TO HAVE THEIR SHOWDOWN
AFTER ALL,

1361
00:57:34,284 --> 00:57:36,921
THOUGH NOT IN THE WAY THAT
ANYONE COULD HAVE PREDICTED

1362
00:57:36,954 --> 00:57:39,289
IN THEIR WILDEST DREAMS.

1363
00:57:39,323 --> 00:57:41,926
OUT OF THE BLUE,
AN INVITATION ARRIVED

1364
00:57:41,959 --> 00:57:43,728
TO THE FIRST-EVER

1365
00:57:43,761 --> 00:57:46,597
INTEGRATED WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP
OF BASKETBALL.

1366
00:57:46,664 --> 00:57:49,133
ONLY TWO BLACK TEAMS
WERE INVITED TO CHICAGO

1367
00:57:49,166 --> 00:57:50,267
TO PARTICIPATE.

1368
00:57:50,300 --> 00:57:52,269
ONE WAS THE RENS.

1369
00:57:52,302 --> 00:57:54,805
THE OTHER,
THE GLOBETROTTERS.

1370
00:57:54,839 --> 00:57:56,807
- ABE WANTED TO BE THOUGHT OF,
AS HIS PLAYERS DID,

1371
00:57:56,841 --> 00:57:58,843
AS BEING THE GREATEST
BASKETBALL TEAM IN THE COUNTRY.

1372
00:57:58,843 --> 00:58:00,277
BUT THERE WAS ALWAYS
THE QUESTION,

1373
00:58:00,344 --> 00:58:01,646
ARE YOU BETTER THAN THE RENS?

1374
00:58:01,679 --> 00:58:03,013
HE REALLY RESENTED THAT.

1375
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:04,582
THE SECOND THING HE RESENTED

1376
00:58:04,615 --> 00:58:06,651
WAS THE FACT
THAT AFRICAN-AMERICANS

1377
00:58:06,684 --> 00:58:09,520
OVERWHELMINGLY
HAD ADOPTED THE RENS

1378
00:58:09,587 --> 00:58:10,788
AS THEIR FAVORITE
BASKETBALL TEAM.

1379
00:58:10,855 --> 00:58:12,690
EVEN IN CHICAGO.

1380
00:58:16,961 --> 00:58:20,164
- THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST TIME
BOTH BLACK AND WHITE TEAMS

1381
00:58:20,197 --> 00:58:24,535
WOULD COMPETE FOR THE TITLE
WORLD'S BEST BASKETBALL TEAM.

1382
00:58:24,635 --> 00:58:27,037
THE RENS DIDN'T HAVE TO PLAY
THE OPENING ROUND,

1383
00:58:27,104 --> 00:58:29,807
WHICH MEANT THE GLOBETROTTERS
WOULD HAVE TO WIN TWO GAMES

1384
00:58:29,874 --> 00:58:32,677
ON SUNDAY FOR THEIR ONE SHOT
AT THE RENS.

1385
00:58:32,710 --> 00:58:35,045
SOMETIMES A GAME
IS JUST A GAME.

1386
00:58:35,112 --> 00:58:37,948
BUT SOMETIMES,
SUCH AS THIS TIME,

1387
00:58:38,015 --> 00:58:40,184
IT WAS SO MUCH MORE.

1388
00:58:40,217 --> 00:58:42,553
- THERE WAS A BUZZ

1389
00:58:42,620 --> 00:58:44,221
ABOUT THE PLAYERS
WHO WERE ON THE RENS,

1390
00:58:44,288 --> 00:58:46,190
AND THEY KNEW
THERE WAS AN EMERGING TEAM

1391
00:58:46,223 --> 00:58:48,626
CALLED THE GLOBETROTTERS THAT
PEOPLE HAD TAKEN FOR GRANTED

1392
00:58:48,693 --> 00:58:50,360
AS BEING JUST ENTERTAINERS,
CLOWNS.

1393
00:58:50,394 --> 00:58:53,698
THEY KNEW THAT THERE
WAS DISCUSSION GOING ON,

1394
00:58:53,731 --> 00:58:55,232
THERE WAS MONEY ON THE TABLE,

1395
00:58:55,232 --> 00:58:56,300
SIDE BETS
LIKE YOU'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE,

1396
00:58:56,366 --> 00:58:59,036
HAPPENING AROUND CHICAGO
AND NEW YORK

1397
00:58:59,069 --> 00:59:01,138
ABOUT THESE TWO TEAMS.

1398
00:59:01,205 --> 00:59:04,141
MOST THOUGHT, FRANKLY,

1399
00:59:04,174 --> 00:59:06,844
THAT THE RENS WERE
HEAD AND SHOULDER BETTER.

1400
00:59:06,911 --> 00:59:09,046
AND I THINK ABE AND HIS PLAYERS

1401
00:59:09,079 --> 00:59:11,381
PROBABLY THOUGHT

1402
00:59:11,415 --> 00:59:13,317
THE WORLD WAS WRONG,

1403
00:59:13,350 --> 00:59:14,919
THAT THEY COULD BEAT
THE RENS EASILY.

1404
00:59:14,985 --> 00:59:17,021
THE WORLD KNEW AT THAT MOMENT
THEY WERE SEEING

1405
00:59:17,087 --> 00:59:19,156
THE TWO BEST BASKETBALL TEAMS
IN THE WORLD COMPETE.

1406
00:59:19,189 --> 00:59:22,026
- AMERICA'S BASKETBALL PLAYERS
GATHER IN CHICAGO TO PRY THE LID

1407
00:59:22,092 --> 00:59:23,728
OFF THE FIRST WORLD'S
CHAMPIONSHIP

1408
00:59:23,761 --> 00:59:24,762
FOR PROFESSIONAL TOSSERS.

1409
00:59:24,762 --> 00:59:26,263
- IT WAS THE BIGGEST ARENA

1410
00:59:26,330 --> 00:59:28,265
THE GAME OF BASKETBALL
HAD EVER SEEN.

1411
00:59:28,332 --> 00:59:32,002
8,000 FANS CROWDED
THE STADIUM.

1412
00:59:32,036 --> 00:59:35,740
FINALLY, AFTER ALL THE YEARS OF
PUBLICLY TAUNTING EACH OTHER,

1413
00:59:35,773 --> 00:59:38,943
THE RENS AND GLOBETROTTERS
WERE FACE-TO-FACE.

1414
00:59:39,009 --> 00:59:41,779
- IT WAS A THRILLING GAME
TO SEE

1415
00:59:41,846 --> 00:59:46,250
TWO BLACK TEAMS
PLAYING AGAINST ONE ANOTHER,

1416
00:59:46,283 --> 00:59:49,019
BOTH OF THEM,
IN OUR OPINION,

1417
00:59:49,086 --> 00:59:52,389
IN OUR TEENAGE OPINION,
BEING CAPABLE

1418
00:59:52,422 --> 00:59:54,258
OF BEATING ANY OTHER TEAM.

1419
00:59:54,291 --> 00:59:56,426
- EVERYBODY SEEMS TO THINK
THAT THEY WERE PUT

1420
00:59:56,460 --> 00:59:57,795
IN THE SAME BRACKET
SO THERE COULDN'T BE

1421
00:59:57,795 --> 00:59:59,363
TWO BLACK TEAMS
IN THE FINALS.

1422
00:59:59,429 --> 01:00:01,131
- SO THEY HAD TO EARN THAT--

1423
01:00:01,198 --> 01:00:02,800
THAT KIND OF LIKE COMING
TOGETHER, RIGHT?

1424
01:00:02,867 --> 01:00:04,869
- RIGHT.
AND THEY HAD TO FIGURE OUT

1425
01:00:04,935 --> 01:00:06,236
WHICH WAS THE BEST BLACK TEAM.

1426
01:00:06,270 --> 01:00:07,805
- WOW.

1427
01:00:07,872 --> 01:00:09,640
- THAT WAS GONNA
GET A CHANCE

1428
01:00:09,707 --> 01:00:11,208
TO GO AGAINST
THE BEST WHITE TEAM.

1429
01:00:11,241 --> 01:00:13,944
- AND I CAN SEE
FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE

1430
01:00:13,978 --> 01:00:15,946
SITTING AROUND THE TABLE
SAYING, "WE GOT TO MAKE SURE

1431
01:00:15,980 --> 01:00:18,382
THE FINALS DOES NOT END UP
WITH TWO BLACK TEAMS."

1432
01:00:18,448 --> 01:00:20,951
- NOW I THINK
WHITE AMERICANS

1433
01:00:20,985 --> 01:00:23,821
ACKNOWLEDGE
THE TREMENDOUS CONTRIBUTIONS

1434
01:00:23,821 --> 01:00:25,923
THAT BLACK ATHLETES
HAVE PLAYED IN SPORTS.

1435
01:00:25,990 --> 01:00:28,826
WE ACKNOWLEDGE
THEIR INCREDIBLE SKILLS.

1436
01:00:28,826 --> 01:00:30,294
BACK IN THE '30s
AND '40s,

1437
01:00:30,327 --> 01:00:32,129
WE WEREN'T ACKNOWLEDGING
ANYTHING.

1438
01:00:32,162 --> 01:00:34,298
WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP US
AS THE BEST IN EVERYTHING,

1439
01:00:34,331 --> 01:00:35,766
MEANING PEOPLE WHO LOOK LIKE ME.

1440
01:00:35,833 --> 01:00:37,267
[whistle blows]

1441
01:00:37,301 --> 01:00:39,804
- THE REF CALLED THE TEAMS
TO CENTER COURT.

1442
01:00:39,837 --> 01:00:41,305
THE BALL WENT UP,

1443
01:00:41,338 --> 01:00:43,841
AND EVERYONE SCRAMBLED.

1444
01:00:43,908 --> 01:00:45,743
- FIRST THREE QUARTERS,

1445
01:00:45,776 --> 01:00:47,277
THE 'TROTTERS COULDN'T DO
ANYTHING RIGHT.

1446
01:00:47,344 --> 01:00:51,816
THE RENS GO OFF
TO AN 11-2 POINT LEAD.

1447
01:00:51,849 --> 01:00:54,151
SO, YOU KNOW,
YOU'RE NINE POINTS AHEAD

1448
01:00:54,184 --> 01:00:56,353
WHEN THERE'S NO LIMIT
ON HOW LONG

1449
01:00:56,420 --> 01:00:57,855
YOU CAN HOLD THE BALL
AND NO SHOT CLOCK.

1450
01:00:57,922 --> 01:00:59,456
IT'S ALMOST INSURMOUNTABLE.

1451
01:00:59,523 --> 01:01:01,358
ALL OF A SUDDEN,
IN THE LAST QUARTER,

1452
01:01:01,358 --> 01:01:03,928
THINGS START TO CHANGE.

1453
01:01:03,994 --> 01:01:05,996
THE GLOBETROTTERS START HITTING
SOME SHOTS.

1454
01:01:06,030 --> 01:01:07,965
AND THE RENS' LEAD SHRINKS,

1455
01:01:08,032 --> 01:01:09,366
SHRINKS.

1456
01:01:09,366 --> 01:01:10,968
IT'S DOWN TO FOUR POINTS.

1457
01:01:11,035 --> 01:01:12,703
IT'S DOWN TO TWO POINTS,

1458
01:01:12,770 --> 01:01:14,705
BUT IT'S UNDER TWO MINUTES
TO PLAY.

1459
01:01:14,772 --> 01:01:16,807
THE RENS ARE HOLDING
ONTO THE BALL.

1460
01:01:16,874 --> 01:01:18,508
AND THEY'RE JUST PLAYING
KEEP-AWAY.

1461
01:01:18,542 --> 01:01:20,044
THEY GOT FOUR GUYS
IN THE CORNERS,

1462
01:01:20,044 --> 01:01:21,712
TARZAN COOPER
IN THE CENTER.

1463
01:01:21,812 --> 01:01:23,848
EVENTUALLY, THE GUY GUARDING

1464
01:01:23,881 --> 01:01:25,315
TARZAN COOPER,
WHO IS THE CENTER,

1465
01:01:25,382 --> 01:01:28,218
GETS BETWEEN HIM
AND THE BALL.

1466
01:01:28,218 --> 01:01:29,987
THERE'S NOBODY,
AT THAT POINT,

1467
01:01:30,054 --> 01:01:31,989
BETWEEN TARZAN
AND THE BASKET.

1468
01:01:32,022 --> 01:01:33,824
AND THE GUY'S PAYING ATTENTION
TO WHAT'S GOING ON

1469
01:01:33,858 --> 01:01:36,026
WITH THE BALL AND NOT KEEPING
AN EYE ON TARZAN COOPER.

1470
01:01:36,060 --> 01:01:38,162
TARZAN COOPER
RECOGNIZES THIS,

1471
01:01:38,228 --> 01:01:39,830
HIS TEAMMATE SEES HIM,
FEEDS HIM A PASS,

1472
01:01:39,864 --> 01:01:41,331
HE'S UNDER THE BASKET ALL ALONE,

1473
01:01:41,365 --> 01:01:43,033
HITS THE LAY-UP,

1474
01:01:43,067 --> 01:01:44,401
THE RENS ARE AHEAD
BY FOUR POINTS,

1475
01:01:44,501 --> 01:01:46,203
THERE'S LESS
THAN 20 SECONDS TO GO.

1476
01:01:46,236 --> 01:01:49,406
IT'S A WRAP.
GAME'S OVER.

1477
01:01:49,506 --> 01:01:51,742
- IF YOU COULD GO 30,000 FEET UP

1478
01:01:51,809 --> 01:01:54,244
AND LOOK AT THE WORLD
AS IT EVOLVES,

1479
01:01:54,311 --> 01:01:56,180
THAT WAS THE BEGINNING
OF THE EVOLUTION

1480
01:01:56,246 --> 01:02:00,350
OF A MAJOR, MAJOR CULTURAL
IMPACT, THE GAME OF BASKETBALL.

1481
01:02:00,384 --> 01:02:02,753
TO THINK
THAT TWO AFRICAN-AMERICAN TEAMS

1482
01:02:02,820 --> 01:02:04,521
WERE INSTRUMENTAL
IN THAT EVOLUTION

1483
01:02:04,588 --> 01:02:06,256
TAKING PLACE.

1484
01:02:06,323 --> 01:02:08,926
NOW, NO OTHER ATHLETE CAN SAY

1485
01:02:08,993 --> 01:02:11,228
THAT THEY STARTED
THAT KIND OF CULTURAL

1486
01:02:11,261 --> 01:02:13,864
AND ECONOMIC REVOLUTION
ON THE FRONT END.

1487
01:02:13,931 --> 01:02:15,565
AND THOSE TWO TEAMS REALLY,

1488
01:02:15,599 --> 01:02:17,101
BECAUSE OF WHERE BASKETBALL
IS TODAY,

1489
01:02:17,101 --> 01:02:18,335
WERE ON THE FRONT END
OF THAT.

1490
01:02:18,402 --> 01:02:19,904
THEY CHANGED THE GAME.

1491
01:02:19,937 --> 01:02:21,538
THEY CHANGED
HOW THE WORLD SAW THE GAME.

1492
01:02:21,605 --> 01:02:23,841
THEY MADE IT A GAME
FOR THE MASSES.

1493
01:02:23,874 --> 01:02:27,044
- BUT THERE WAS STILL
ONE GAME TO GO.

1494
01:02:27,077 --> 01:02:30,080
ON MARCH 28, 1939,

1495
01:02:30,114 --> 01:02:32,783
A GROUP OF YOUNG BLACK MEN
FROM HARLEM

1496
01:02:32,883 --> 01:02:35,052
STOOD
ON THE POLISHED WOODEN FLOOR

1497
01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:37,287
FACING A GROUP
OF YOUNG WHITE MEN

1498
01:02:37,287 --> 01:02:39,957
IN THE FINAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME
OF THE FIRST-EVER

1499
01:02:40,057 --> 01:02:42,192
WORLD PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL
TOURNAMENT.

1500
01:02:42,226 --> 01:02:44,895
- OH, THE ATMOSPHERE
WAS UNBELIEVABLE.

1501
01:02:44,929 --> 01:02:48,899
20,000 PEOPLE THERE
IN THE STANDS.

1502
01:02:48,933 --> 01:02:53,237
IT WAS BUILT UP
TO A BIG CRESCENDO.

1503
01:02:53,270 --> 01:02:56,606
THE OFFICIALS
WERE TWO TOP-NOTCH OFFICIALS.

1504
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,409
AT THAT TIME,
IT WAS TWO OFFICIALS.

1505
01:02:59,443 --> 01:03:01,578
AND YOU KNEW IT WAS GONNA BE
A FANTASTIC GAME.

1506
01:03:01,611 --> 01:03:03,613
- OSHKOSH ALL-STARS PLAYED
AGAINST THE NEW YORK RENS

1507
01:03:03,647 --> 01:03:06,383
33 TIMES,
AND 17 OF THOSE TIMES

1508
01:03:06,416 --> 01:03:08,318
ALL-STARS WON.

1509
01:03:08,385 --> 01:03:11,956
SO IN THE MINDS OF EVERY PLAYER
ON THE RENS,

1510
01:03:11,989 --> 01:03:14,124
THAT WAS PROBABLY
THE TOP TEAM TO BEAT.

1511
01:03:14,158 --> 01:03:16,927
AND THERE'S NO QUESTION
ABOUT IT

1512
01:03:16,994 --> 01:03:21,165
FOR OSHKOSH THAT THE RENS
WERE EQUALLY AS COMPETITIVE

1513
01:03:21,231 --> 01:03:23,067
AND A CHALLENGING TEAM TO PLAY.

1514
01:03:23,133 --> 01:03:25,302
- IN '37, THE RENS
HAD BEEN REJECTED

1515
01:03:25,335 --> 01:03:27,137
BY THE NATIONAL
BASKETBALL LEAGUE.

1516
01:03:27,171 --> 01:03:31,241
BOB DOUGLAS'S TEAM HAD BEEN
DENIED FOR 16 LONG YEARS.

1517
01:03:31,275 --> 01:03:33,443
DOUGLAS SAID,
"IF WE LOSE NOW,

1518
01:03:33,477 --> 01:03:37,147
WHO KNOWS WHEN WE WILL EVER GET
THIS OPPORTUNITY AGAIN?"

1519
01:03:37,181 --> 01:03:39,116
- SO THE RENS
JUMP OUT TO A LEAD,

1520
01:03:39,183 --> 01:03:41,651
AND THEY JUST KEPT RUNNING
THE FAST BREAK.

1521
01:03:41,685 --> 01:03:44,354
THEY HAD BOTH OF THEIR BIG MEN,

1522
01:03:44,354 --> 01:03:47,191
TARZAN COOPER
AND WEE WILLIE SMITH,

1523
01:03:47,291 --> 01:03:49,126
THEY FOULED OUT OF THE GAME.
- MM.

1524
01:03:49,159 --> 01:03:51,996
- BUT THEY HAD SO MUCH SPEED
ON THE COURT

1525
01:03:52,029 --> 01:03:54,164
AND THEIR PASSING GAME
WAS SO EFFECTIVE

1526
01:03:54,198 --> 01:03:56,266
THAT OSHKOSH REALLY
COULDN'T KEEP UP WITH THEM.

1527
01:03:56,300 --> 01:03:58,302
- OSHKOSH, WE PLAYED THEM
OFTEN ENOUGH,

1528
01:03:58,368 --> 01:04:00,437
BUT THEY WERE ALSO BIG,

1529
01:04:00,470 --> 01:04:01,939
BUT THEY COULDN'T JUMP
WITH US,

1530
01:04:01,972 --> 01:04:03,473
AND THAT WAS
THE UNFORTUNATE PART ABOUT IT.

1531
01:04:03,540 --> 01:04:05,475
AND THEY COULDN'T PASS WITH US.

1532
01:04:05,509 --> 01:04:07,177
BUT THEY WOULD ROLL YOU OVER

1533
01:04:07,211 --> 01:04:09,213
IF YOU GOT IN THEIR WAY,
YOU KNOW.

1534
01:04:09,279 --> 01:04:11,348
SO WE MADE SURE
THAT WE'D PASS AND GO THROUGH

1535
01:04:11,381 --> 01:04:12,883
OR PASS AND GO AWAY,

1536
01:04:12,950 --> 01:04:15,319
AND THEN KEEP THE BALL
OFF THE FLOOR

1537
01:04:15,385 --> 01:04:18,055
BECAUSE THEN THEY WOULDN'T...

1538
01:04:18,055 --> 01:04:19,523
AND EVERYBODY'D BE
ON THE FLY PATTERN,

1539
01:04:19,556 --> 01:04:21,491
AND BASICALLY THAT WAS IT.

1540
01:04:21,558 --> 01:04:24,962
- THE RENS ARE THE WONDER TEAM
ON [indistinct] HARDWOODS.

1541
01:04:24,995 --> 01:04:27,364
THE CLUB THAT GOT ITS NAME
BY ACCIDENT 16 YEARS AGO

1542
01:04:27,397 --> 01:04:30,634
NOW RANKS AS BEST
IN U.S. BASKETBALL.

1543
01:04:30,700 --> 01:04:33,670
- AT THAT POINT,
WHEN THE RENS WIN

1544
01:04:33,703 --> 01:04:36,173
THE FIRST PROFESSIONAL
CHAMPIONSHIP OF BASKETBALL

1545
01:04:36,206 --> 01:04:38,642
THAT IS OPEN TO ALL TEAMS...
- RIGHT.

1546
01:04:38,675 --> 01:04:41,678
- THE WHITE PRESS DECIDES
THAT THEY'RE GONNA IGNORE THAT.

1547
01:04:41,711 --> 01:04:43,580
THEY'RE GONNA ACT LIKE
IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

1548
01:04:43,647 --> 01:04:45,315
- WOW.

1549
01:04:45,349 --> 01:04:47,417
SO, WHAT, IT WAS
A SMALL FOOTNOTE IN THE BACK

1550
01:04:47,484 --> 01:04:48,685
OF THE SPORTS PAGES?

1551
01:04:48,752 --> 01:04:51,021
- IF IT GOT ON THERE
AT ALL.

1552
01:04:51,055 --> 01:04:52,556
BUT IN BLACK AMERICA,

1553
01:04:52,589 --> 01:04:54,491
BLACK AMERICANS UNDERSTOOD
WHAT HAD HAPPENED.

1554
01:04:54,524 --> 01:04:56,526
- AS HISTORY HAS BEEN WRITTEN
AND REWRITTEN

1555
01:04:56,593 --> 01:04:58,662
BY PEOPLE
OTHER THAN AFRICAN-AMERICANS,

1556
01:04:58,695 --> 01:05:02,366
I THINK THAT YOU DON'T GET
A SENSE OF THE GLORY.

1557
01:05:02,399 --> 01:05:04,501
YOU DON'T GET A SENSE
OF THE POWER.

1558
01:05:04,534 --> 01:05:05,702
YOU DON'T GET A SENSE
OF THE MAJESTY.

1559
01:05:05,735 --> 01:05:06,937
- 37-23.

1560
01:05:07,004 --> 01:05:09,439
- THAT GAME EXEMPLIFIES,
I THINK,

1561
01:05:09,506 --> 01:05:11,441
THE POWER
AND THE MAJESTY OF THE RENS.

1562
01:05:11,508 --> 01:05:13,410
IT SAYS EVERYTHING
ABOUT THE RENS.

1563
01:05:13,443 --> 01:05:15,112
- THERE WERE RESERVATIONS

1564
01:05:15,179 --> 01:05:17,014
OF WHETHER THE RENS WOULD BE
GOOD ENOUGH TO PLAY

1565
01:05:17,081 --> 01:05:19,083
AGAINST THE GREAT WHITE
BALL PLAYERS.

1566
01:05:19,116 --> 01:05:21,718
THEY WEREN'T DISCIPLINED ENOUGH
WHEN THE CHIPS WERE DOWN.

1567
01:05:21,751 --> 01:05:23,720
DID THEY GET A WAKEUP CALL
IN 1939

1568
01:05:23,753 --> 01:05:25,956
LIKE THEY'D NEVER HAD BEFORE.

1569
01:05:26,023 --> 01:05:27,224
- IT WOULD HAVE BEEN
THE EQUIVALENT

1570
01:05:27,291 --> 01:05:31,561
OF THE BLACK YANKEES
BEATING THE YANKEES

1571
01:05:31,595 --> 01:05:34,398
FOR A WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP.

1572
01:05:34,431 --> 01:05:36,566
AND IT'S IN '39, OKAY?

1573
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:40,204
SO IT'S AHEAD

1574
01:05:40,237 --> 01:05:42,739
OF JACKIE ROBINSON
BREAKING INTO THE LEAGUE.

1575
01:05:42,772 --> 01:05:45,109
AND IT'S A TEAM AGAINST A TEAM.

1576
01:05:45,142 --> 01:05:51,148
IT'S NOT AN INDIVIDUAL
GETTING ON A WHITE TEAM.

1577
01:05:51,215 --> 01:05:52,582
- BLACK AMERICANS
KNEW WHAT HAD HAPPENED.

1578
01:05:52,649 --> 01:05:55,752
THEY TOOK A LOT OF PRIDE IN IT.

1579
01:05:55,785 --> 01:06:01,458
AND, AT THAT POINT,
THAT WAS ANOTHER SERIOUS

1580
01:06:01,491 --> 01:06:07,497
MILESTONE IN BLACK AMERICANS
ACHIEVING EQUALITY.

1581
01:06:07,597 --> 01:06:10,234
- IT'S AN ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY.

1582
01:06:10,267 --> 01:06:12,136
EVERYONE THINKS IT'S EASY
TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP.

1583
01:06:12,169 --> 01:06:14,138
IT'S NOT.
IT TAKES AN UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNT

1584
01:06:14,171 --> 01:06:16,506
OF GOOD FORTUNE,
THE RIGHT BALANCE--

1585
01:06:16,573 --> 01:06:18,442
AND PEOPLE SAY YOU MAKE
YOUR OWN BALANCE.

1586
01:06:18,508 --> 01:06:22,512
THAT'S NOT TRUE.
IT'S JUST NOT TRUE.

1587
01:06:22,579 --> 01:06:24,414
IT'S A PRIDEFUL THING.

1588
01:06:24,481 --> 01:06:26,616
YOU WANT TO BE A CHAMPION.

1589
01:06:26,650 --> 01:06:28,152
- SMILING BOB DOUGLAS

1590
01:06:28,185 --> 01:06:31,421
ARRANGED A DINNER
FOR HIS TEAM.

1591
01:06:31,488 --> 01:06:33,490
- HE GAVE THEM
THEIR CHAMPIONSHIP JACKETS.

1592
01:06:33,523 --> 01:06:35,359
THEY DIDN'T HAVE RINGS
IN THOSE DAYS.

1593
01:06:35,425 --> 01:06:38,362
AND ON THE JACKET, IT SAID,
"WORLD'S COLORED CHAMPIONS."

1594
01:06:38,428 --> 01:06:43,433
'CAUSE BOB DOUGLAS HAD HAD
COLORED PUT ON THE JACKETS

1595
01:06:43,500 --> 01:06:45,669
JUST BECAUSE HE WAS STILL
DEALING WITH THE OLD FRAME

1596
01:06:45,702 --> 01:06:48,038
OF REFERENCE.
- RIGHT.

1597
01:06:48,105 --> 01:06:49,506
- BUT SOMETHING DIFFERENT
HAD HAPPENED.

1598
01:06:49,539 --> 01:06:51,141
YOU KNOW, THEY BEAT
THE BEST OF THE BEST.

1599
01:06:51,208 --> 01:06:53,177
THEY BEAT THE BEST
OF ALL THE BASKETBALL TEAMS

1600
01:06:53,210 --> 01:06:54,844
IN THE COUNTRY.

1601
01:06:54,878 --> 01:06:56,780
IT WASN'T JUST BLACK TEAMS
THAT THEY HAD BEATEN.

1602
01:06:56,813 --> 01:06:59,816
SO THEY ACTUALLY WERE
THE WORLD'S CHAMPS.

1603
01:06:59,883 --> 01:07:03,453
- I WENT INTO HIS OFFICE,
I SAID, "HI, MR. DOUGLAS.

1604
01:07:03,487 --> 01:07:05,722
MAY I BORROW A RAZORBLADE?"

1605
01:07:05,789 --> 01:07:08,792
AND EVERY THREAD
THAT SAID COLORED,

1606
01:07:08,825 --> 01:07:11,528
I CUT IT,
TOOK THE COLORED OFF,

1607
01:07:11,561 --> 01:07:13,130
AND THREW IT ON THE FLOOR.

1608
01:07:13,197 --> 01:07:14,664
"IT SAYS WORLD CHAMPION,"
I SAID,

1609
01:07:14,698 --> 01:07:16,633
"BECAUSE THIS IS WHO WE ARE.

1610
01:07:16,666 --> 01:07:19,569
"AND IT CAN'T BE
ANY WORLD COLORED CHAMPION

1611
01:07:19,636 --> 01:07:21,238
BLAH BLAH BLAH."

1612
01:07:21,305 --> 01:07:22,706
I SAID, "NO, NO, NO.
WE CUT IT OFF."

1613
01:07:22,739 --> 01:07:23,807
EVERYBODY LOOKED AT ME
AND SAID...

1614
01:07:23,873 --> 01:07:25,542
EVEN DOUGLAS CAME OUT.

1615
01:07:25,575 --> 01:07:26,743
HE SAID,
"YOU RUINED THE JACKET."

1616
01:07:26,743 --> 01:07:28,145
I SAID, "NO, I MADE IT REAL."

1617
01:07:28,212 --> 01:07:30,880
- I JUST THINK
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL WAY

1618
01:07:30,914 --> 01:07:33,417
OF SAYING,
"I'M A CHAMPION...

1619
01:07:33,483 --> 01:07:36,153
"NO MATTER WHAT.
NO MATTER THE COLOR OF MY SKIN.

1620
01:07:36,220 --> 01:07:37,687
"I PERFORMED.
I DID THE JOB.

1621
01:07:37,721 --> 01:07:39,723
I DID THE DUTY."

1622
01:07:39,756 --> 01:07:41,691
AND I THINK
IT WAS A STRONG STATEMENT

1623
01:07:41,725 --> 01:07:44,428
DURING A TIME
WHERE WE HAD COLORED FOUNTAINS

1624
01:07:44,494 --> 01:07:46,163
AND WHITE FOUNTAINS.

1625
01:07:46,230 --> 01:07:47,731
IT WAS ALMOST COMPATIBLE

1626
01:07:47,764 --> 01:07:49,599
TO THE JANE PITTMAN STORY

1627
01:07:49,666 --> 01:07:51,601
WHEN SHE HAD TO DRINK

1628
01:07:51,668 --> 01:07:52,702
FROM THE WHITE FOUNTAIN.

1629
01:07:52,769 --> 01:07:54,438
THERE WAS NO COLOR.

1630
01:07:54,438 --> 01:07:56,240
IT WAS JUST WATER
COMING OUT OF THERE.

1631
01:07:56,273 --> 01:08:00,410
[cheers and applause]

1632
01:08:00,444 --> 01:08:02,846
- IT IS IN SOME WAYS URGENT

1633
01:08:02,912 --> 01:08:06,116
FOR NBA PLAYERS
TO UNDERSTAND

1634
01:08:06,183 --> 01:08:08,718
HOW THE GAME HAS DEVELOPED AND
HOW THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM

1635
01:08:08,785 --> 01:08:11,588
HAVE DEVELOPED.

1636
01:08:11,621 --> 01:08:15,459
- WE WERE THE STRONGEST PEOPLE
IN THE WORLD.

1637
01:08:15,525 --> 01:08:18,428
- TO COME AS FAR
AS IT HAS COME

1638
01:08:18,462 --> 01:08:21,298
IS ACTUALLY A TRIBUTE
AND A TESTAMENT

1639
01:08:21,365 --> 01:08:23,600
TO THE GAME OF BASKETBALL,
THE SPORT OF BASKETBALL.

1640
01:08:23,633 --> 01:08:26,770
- OUR BLACK ATHLETES,
YEARS AGO,

1641
01:08:26,803 --> 01:08:28,472
THEY NEVER GOT THE CREDIT
THEY DESERVED,

1642
01:08:28,538 --> 01:08:30,140
NEVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY.

1643
01:08:30,207 --> 01:08:32,442
AND I'M SURE
THE HISTORY OF BASKETBALL

1644
01:08:32,476 --> 01:08:35,645
COULD BE REVISED

1645
01:08:35,712 --> 01:08:37,881
IF SOME OF THOSE YOUNG MEN
HAD AN OPPORTUNITY

1646
01:08:37,947 --> 01:08:40,150
TO PLAY AT THE LEVEL
THAT THE PLAYERS PLAY TODAY.

1647
01:08:41,951 --> 01:08:43,787
- THE MORE ATHLETES UNDERSTOOD

1648
01:08:43,820 --> 01:08:45,755
THE STORIES OF THE RENS,

1649
01:08:45,789 --> 01:08:48,758
THE STORIES OF THE PEOPLE
THAT CREATED

1650
01:08:48,792 --> 01:08:50,660
THE PATH THAT THEY'RE ON,

1651
01:08:50,727 --> 01:08:52,929
IT WOULD MAKE THEM,
"A", MORE RESPONSIBLE

1652
01:08:52,996 --> 01:08:54,598
AND CONSCIENTIOUS,

1653
01:08:54,631 --> 01:08:55,732
BECAUSE THEY WOULD UNDERSTAND

1654
01:08:55,765 --> 01:08:57,767
WHAT WAS INVESTED IN THEM,

1655
01:08:57,801 --> 01:08:59,236
AND IT WOULD MAKE THEM

1656
01:08:59,269 --> 01:09:02,272
ALSO NOT COWER SO EASILY
TO CHALLENGES.

1657
01:09:02,306 --> 01:09:04,808
- THE RENS ARE KIND OF LOST
TO HISTORY,

1658
01:09:04,841 --> 01:09:06,176
UNLESS YOU READ ABOUT IT.

1659
01:09:06,276 --> 01:09:07,477
AND WE'RE IN A CULTURE

1660
01:09:07,511 --> 01:09:09,413
WHERE PEOPLE READ
LESS AND LESS.

1661
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,349
IF IT ISN'T ON THE TUBE,
THEN IT'S LARGELY FORGOTTEN.

1662
01:09:12,416 --> 01:09:14,351
- WE'RE ALL VERY FORTUNATE

1663
01:09:14,418 --> 01:09:16,620
AND BLESSED
TO PLAY THIS GAME

1664
01:09:16,686 --> 01:09:19,189
AND TO LIVE
THE KIND OF LIFESTYLE

1665
01:09:19,256 --> 01:09:21,858
AND HAVE THE KIND OF SECURITY
FINANCIALLY THAT WE HAVE.

1666
01:09:21,925 --> 01:09:23,527
THE HARLEM RENS,
WHO DID NOT HAVE THAT

1667
01:09:23,593 --> 01:09:25,695
AND WHO SORT OF PAVED
THE WAY...

1668
01:09:25,762 --> 01:09:27,464
AND I THINK
WITH THE WAY

1669
01:09:27,531 --> 01:09:29,366
THEY WERE ABLE TO PLAY,
THE INNOVATION

1670
01:09:29,433 --> 01:09:30,700
THAT THEY BROUGHT
TO THE TABLE,

1671
01:09:30,767 --> 01:09:32,302
THE PROFESSIONALISM,

1672
01:09:32,369 --> 01:09:33,837
I THINK HELPED OPEN DOORS.

1673
01:09:36,306 --> 01:09:38,208
- THE RENS
DIDN'T FARE MUCH BETTER

1674
01:09:38,275 --> 01:09:39,476
THAN THE RENAISSANCE CASINO.

1675
01:09:39,543 --> 01:09:41,678
WHILE THE GLOBETROTTERS
WENT ON

1676
01:09:41,711 --> 01:09:43,680
TO BECOME ONE OF THE MOST
POPULAR TEAMS

1677
01:09:43,713 --> 01:09:47,384
IN THE WORLD TODAY,
THE RENS FADED FROM VIEW.

1678
01:09:49,553 --> 01:09:54,023
WEE WILLIE SMITH
BECAME A SCHOOL JANITOR.

1679
01:09:54,057 --> 01:09:56,460
TARZAN COOPER,
WHO HAD SUNK THE WINNING SHOT,

1680
01:09:56,493 --> 01:09:59,863
TOOK UP HOUSE PAINTING AS HIS
ONLY MEANS TO EARN A LIVING.

1681
01:09:59,896 --> 01:10:02,732
ROBERT "SMILING BOB" DOUGLAS,

1682
01:10:02,799 --> 01:10:04,401
WHO DIED IN 1979,

1683
01:10:04,468 --> 01:10:07,471
WAS INDUCTED
INTO THE BASKETBALL HALL OF FAME

1684
01:10:07,537 --> 01:10:09,406
IN 1972.

1685
01:10:09,473 --> 01:10:11,541
HE WAS
THE FIRST BLACK INDIVIDUAL

1686
01:10:11,575 --> 01:10:13,543
TO BE INDUCTED.

1687
01:10:13,577 --> 01:10:15,845
- MY DAD AND BOBBY DOUGLAS WENT

1688
01:10:15,912 --> 01:10:18,382
TO THE PREDECESSOR
OF THE NBA

1689
01:10:18,415 --> 01:10:20,684
TO TRY AND GET THE RENS ADMITTED
AS A TEAM.

1690
01:10:20,717 --> 01:10:23,353
AND THEY MADE A PRESENTATION
TO THE BOARD OF GOVERNORS

1691
01:10:23,387 --> 01:10:25,522
OF--I THINK
IT WAS CALLED THE B.A.A.

1692
01:10:25,555 --> 01:10:27,524
AND THEY WERE PRETTY SURE

1693
01:10:27,557 --> 01:10:30,394
THAT THEY HAD A GOOD SHOT
AT GETTING THE RENS IN.

1694
01:10:30,427 --> 01:10:33,397
NED IRISH WAS THE OWNER
OF THE KNICKS AT THE TIME,

1695
01:10:33,430 --> 01:10:34,564
AND HE CAME BACK OUT

1696
01:10:34,598 --> 01:10:36,400
AND TOLD MY FATHER
AND BOBBY

1697
01:10:36,433 --> 01:10:38,902
THAT THEY DECIDED
NOT TO ADMIT THE RENS.

1698
01:10:38,935 --> 01:10:40,737
AND MY DAD TOLD BOBBY DOUGLAS

1699
01:10:40,770 --> 01:10:43,273
THAT HE WAS GONNA RESIGN
AS THE COACH OF THE KNICKS,

1700
01:10:43,340 --> 01:10:44,508
THAT HE DIDN'T WANT
TO BE IN A LEAGUE

1701
01:10:44,574 --> 01:10:46,843
THAT WOULD MAKE A DECISION
LIKE THIS.

1702
01:10:46,876 --> 01:10:49,779
AND BOBBY DOUGLAS INSISTED THAT,
"YOU NEED TO STAY THERE, JOE.

1703
01:10:49,846 --> 01:10:51,348
"SOMEDAY YOU'RE GONNA HAVE
AN OPPORTUNITY

1704
01:10:51,415 --> 01:10:53,450
TO DO SOMETHING IMPORTANT
IN THIS LEAGUE."

1705
01:10:53,517 --> 01:10:54,884
AND OF COURSE HE DID STAY

1706
01:10:54,951 --> 01:10:57,387
AND THREE YEARS LATER
SIGNED CLIFTON.

1707
01:10:59,523 --> 01:11:03,026
- SWEETWATER CLIFTON
GOING ALL THE WAY.

1708
01:11:03,092 --> 01:11:05,395
- GUYS LIKE
SWEETWATER CLIFTON,

1709
01:11:05,429 --> 01:11:07,397
ALL THE OLDER GUYS,
WE COULDN'T THANK THEM,

1710
01:11:07,431 --> 01:11:09,466
YOU KNOW, ENOUGH
FOR WHAT THEY DID.

1711
01:11:09,533 --> 01:11:11,735
- AND FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS,

1712
01:11:11,801 --> 01:11:14,371
JOHN "BOY WONDER" ISAACS

1713
01:11:14,404 --> 01:11:16,806
SPENT HIS LAST 30 YEARS
COACHING KIDS' BASKETBALL

1714
01:11:16,873 --> 01:11:20,877
AT THE BOYS and GIRLS CLUB
IN THE BRONX.

1715
01:11:20,910 --> 01:11:22,712
- FIRST OF ALL,
I DON'T CARE

1716
01:11:22,746 --> 01:11:25,081
HOW BIG OR HOW SMALL
YOU ARE--

1717
01:11:25,114 --> 01:11:28,652
YOU SHOULD BE ABLE
TO HANDLE THE BALL.

1718
01:11:28,718 --> 01:11:31,054
SECONDLY,

1719
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,623
YOU SHOULD BE ABLE
TO BE AN ADEQUATE PASSER.

1720
01:11:33,657 --> 01:11:34,958
OH, YES,

1721
01:11:34,991 --> 01:11:37,661
YOU DO HAVE TO PLAY DEFENSE.

1722
01:11:37,727 --> 01:11:40,830
HE WAS NOMINATED FOR INCLUSION
INTO THE HALL OF FAME

1723
01:11:40,897 --> 01:11:42,732
BUT NEVER INDUCTED.

1724
01:11:42,766 --> 01:11:47,404
JOHN ISAACS DIED
ON JANUARY 26, 2009.

1725
01:11:47,437 --> 01:11:49,406
HE NEVER SAW
THE COVETED INDUCTION

1726
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:52,442
OR THIS DOCUMENTARY
HONORING THE RENS.

1727
01:11:52,476 --> 01:11:55,512
- WHEN YOU THINK
OF WHAT THEY ACCOMPLISHED,

1728
01:11:55,579 --> 01:11:57,681
THE FACT THAT,
AT THE END,

1729
01:11:57,747 --> 01:12:00,784
THEY WIN 2,318 GAMES

1730
01:12:00,850 --> 01:12:03,953
AND THEY ONLY LOSE 381...

1731
01:12:03,987 --> 01:12:05,855
- THEY WERE DESTINED
TO BE GREAT ATHLETES,

1732
01:12:05,922 --> 01:12:07,691
AND GREAT BALL PLAYERS
IS WHAT THEY WERE.

1733
01:12:07,757 --> 01:12:10,093
THE FACT THAT THEY GOT MONEY
MADE IT REALLY NICE.

1734
01:12:10,159 --> 01:12:12,996
IT BECAME AN ASPIRATION
FOR OTHERS.

1735
01:12:13,029 --> 01:12:16,466
BUT THE ORIGINAL GUYS WOULD
HAVE BEEN THERE FOR NOTHING.

1736
01:12:16,500 --> 01:12:17,967
IT WAS ABOUT THE GAME.

1737
01:12:18,001 --> 01:12:19,703
THEY REALLY LOVED THE GAME.

1738
01:12:26,610 --> 01:12:29,379
Captioning by CaptionMax
www.captionmax.com

1739
01:12:41,658 --> 01:12:44,628
[jazz music]

1740
01:12:44,661 --> 01:12:52,469
*

1741
01:13:00,243 --> 01:13:01,911
- * PEOPLE GATHER AROUND

1742
01:13:01,978 --> 01:13:04,147
* WE'LL BE STOMPING
INTO YOUR TOWN *

1743
01:13:04,213 --> 01:13:05,715
* ON THE SHOULDERS
OF GIANTS *

1744
01:13:05,749 --> 01:13:09,018
[continues singing]

1745
01:13:09,052 --> 01:13:11,521
- * OH YEAH

1746
01:13:11,555 --> 01:13:15,592
*

1747
01:13:15,659 --> 01:13:18,428
[scatting]

1748
01:13:18,495 --> 01:13:20,530
* WE'RE STOMP STOMP
STOMPING *

1749
01:13:20,597 --> 01:13:22,499
* STOMPING IN YOUR TOWN,
TOWN *

1750
01:13:22,532 --> 01:13:23,867
* PEOPLE JUST GATHER
AROUND *

1751
01:13:23,933 --> 01:13:25,669
* ROUND
ON THE SHOULDERS OF GIANTS *

1752
01:13:25,702 --> 01:13:27,871
* AND WE GOTTA ALLOW
HERBIE HANCOCK PLAYING *

1753
01:13:27,904 --> 01:13:30,874
[jazzy music]

1754
01:13:30,907 --> 01:13:38,915
*

1755
01:13:43,620 --> 01:13:46,089
[scatting]

1756
01:13:46,122 --> 01:13:47,957
- * YEAH

1757
01:13:47,957 --> 01:13:50,226
- * JAZZ, HIP-HOP, BE-BOP
RHYTHM AND BLUES *

1758
01:13:50,293 --> 01:13:52,529
* OOZES ON HIS HORN
SO EFFORTLESS *

1759
01:13:52,562 --> 01:13:54,898
* WITH NO EFFORT,
IT'S QUITE SIMPLE *

1760
01:13:54,931 --> 01:13:57,534
* ANY TUNE OR RHYTHM,
THIS GIFT WAS GIVEN *

1761
01:13:57,567 --> 01:13:59,736
* HANDED DOWN
FROM HARMONIOUS MONKS *

1762
01:13:59,769 --> 01:14:02,071
* MILES AND CHARLIE,
THELONIOUS MONK *

1763
01:14:02,105 --> 01:14:03,973
* COLTRANE
WILL MAKE YOU DIZZY *

1764
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:05,709
* THE LIPS
OF LOUIS AND BILLIE *

1765
01:14:05,775 --> 01:14:07,811
* MAKE A HOLIDAY
FOR MISSISSIPPI *

1766
01:14:07,877 --> 01:14:10,547
* NEW ORLEANS,
LET'S CELEBRATE THE CITY *

1767
01:14:10,614 --> 01:14:12,949
* TOAST TO THE GREAT
SIMONE AND BLAKEY *

1768
01:14:12,982 --> 01:14:15,652
* JONES FOR THE JUKE JOINT
WORDS ABOUT OUR TECHNIQUE *

1769
01:14:15,719 --> 01:14:17,587
* TAKIN' OFF LIKE NOW

1770
01:14:17,654 --> 01:14:19,623
*

1771
01:14:19,656 --> 01:14:21,825
YOU KNOW THAT SONG.
- I KNOW THAT SONG.

1772
01:14:21,825 --> 01:14:23,727
- YOU KNOW THAT SONG.

1773
01:14:23,793 --> 01:14:26,763
[scatting]

1774
01:14:26,796 --> 01:14:34,771
*

1775
01:14:34,804 --> 01:14:36,606
- * YEAH...AH

1776
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:44,614
*

1777
01:14:55,091 --> 01:14:57,627
* YEAH

1778
01:14:57,694 --> 01:14:59,963
* YEAH

1779
01:14:59,996 --> 01:15:01,998
* YEAH

1780
01:15:02,031 --> 01:15:03,967
* WILL.I.AM IN THE HOUSE

1781
01:15:04,033 --> 01:15:08,772
* YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH
- [scatting]

1782
01:15:08,805 --> 01:15:12,275
[scatting]
- * YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH

1783
01:15:12,275 --> 01:15:14,611
- [scatting]
- * YEAH


