1 00:00:07,549 --> 00:00:13,180 ♪ ♪ 2 00:00:16,350 --> 00:00:18,560 (gunshots) 3 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,063 REPORTER: A wild shoot‐out on the streets of the Bronx. 4 00:00:21,063 --> 00:00:24,525 Tonight, a 51‐year‐old grandfather shot dead 5 00:00:24,525 --> 00:00:26,026 in broad daylight. 6 00:00:26,944 --> 00:00:29,363 VAN ZELLER: I've seen plenty of violence in my career, 7 00:00:29,363 --> 00:00:31,531 but a professional hit like this caught my attention. 8 00:00:34,409 --> 00:00:37,746 The killing was allegedly part of an ongoing turf war, 9 00:00:37,746 --> 00:00:41,708 but not between rival street gangs or mafia crime families. 10 00:00:42,501 --> 00:00:46,129 These men were from rival motorcycle clubs. 11 00:00:49,716 --> 00:00:52,469 KOZLOWSKI: That One Percenter patch is declaring 99% 12 00:00:52,469 --> 00:00:54,805 of everybody else are law‐abiding citizens, 13 00:00:54,805 --> 00:00:57,349 we are the 1% that are the criminals. 14 00:00:59,977 --> 00:01:02,104 They wear that as a badge of honor. 15 00:01:02,104 --> 00:01:06,108 STEWART: Some people might judge us for the symbols that we wear, 16 00:01:06,108 --> 00:01:08,235 but if that makes us outlaws, so be it. 17 00:01:10,612 --> 00:01:13,699 VAN ZELLER: These clubs are a contradiction on two wheels. 18 00:01:14,199 --> 00:01:16,994 Proudly and loudly public on American roads. 19 00:01:16,994 --> 00:01:19,121 Holy (bleep). 20 00:01:20,330 --> 00:01:22,874 And yet, notoriously secret 21 00:01:22,874 --> 00:01:25,502 about what membership truly entails. 22 00:01:25,752 --> 00:01:28,672 MAN: You live outside the law. 23 00:01:28,672 --> 00:01:30,090 There's just that 1% of guys 24 00:01:30,090 --> 00:01:32,050 that don't give a (bleep) about the law... 25 00:01:32,050 --> 00:01:33,510 About the (bleep) cops... 26 00:01:33,927 --> 00:01:35,512 None of that (bleep). 27 00:01:36,763 --> 00:01:38,724 VAN ZELLER: What's motivating the violence? 28 00:01:38,724 --> 00:01:40,559 Who's calling the shots? 29 00:01:41,435 --> 00:01:44,771 And what does it really mean to be in the 1%? 30 00:01:58,827 --> 00:02:02,414 (train approaching) 31 00:02:07,961 --> 00:02:09,296 VAN ZELLER: Within the biker world, 32 00:02:09,296 --> 00:02:11,381 certain motorcycle clubs have a reputation 33 00:02:11,381 --> 00:02:13,675 for violence and secrecy. 34 00:02:14,801 --> 00:02:17,137 The Vagos are one of those clubs. 35 00:02:18,138 --> 00:02:19,973 STEWART: Traditionally, our club has been 36 00:02:19,973 --> 00:02:22,017 one of the most tight‐lipped of them all. 37 00:02:22,267 --> 00:02:26,146 But I am a fan of opening people's eyes. 38 00:02:27,522 --> 00:02:29,775 VAN ZELLER: That's how I end up at this bar 39 00:02:30,025 --> 00:02:32,027 with the club's international president, 40 00:02:32,027 --> 00:02:33,528 a man they call... 41 00:02:33,528 --> 00:02:34,655 STEWART: There we go. 42 00:02:34,655 --> 00:02:36,156 VAN ZELLER: Bigfoot. 43 00:02:36,907 --> 00:02:39,868 STEWART: I started riding Harley Davidsons in my mid‐20s 44 00:02:39,868 --> 00:02:41,495 and it didn't take long to discover 45 00:02:41,495 --> 00:02:44,331 that these One Percenter clubs 46 00:02:44,331 --> 00:02:48,502 dictate the life and, I wanted to have a say. 47 00:02:48,502 --> 00:02:50,087 VAN ZELLER: The term "One Percenter" comes from the 48 00:02:50,087 --> 00:02:52,714 American Motorcycle Association 49 00:02:52,714 --> 00:02:56,301 which claims that 99% of bikers are law‐abiding citizens. 50 00:02:58,261 --> 00:03:01,348 The implication proudly embraced by certain clubs like the Vagos, 51 00:03:02,307 --> 00:03:05,560 is that the other 1% live by their own rules. 52 00:03:06,687 --> 00:03:08,980 STEWART: We say to the world we understand 53 00:03:08,980 --> 00:03:11,566 what American written law is, 54 00:03:11,566 --> 00:03:13,860 but we believe some of it to be horse (bleep). 55 00:03:14,861 --> 00:03:17,072 If you say something horrible to me, 56 00:03:17,072 --> 00:03:19,366 the law says I'm not allowed to punch you in the mouth for it. 57 00:03:19,366 --> 00:03:23,245 VAN ZELLER: Right. STEWART: We say we can. 58 00:03:23,245 --> 00:03:25,163 And we accept whatever punishment comes with that. 59 00:03:26,081 --> 00:03:27,541 And let me tell you this. 60 00:03:27,541 --> 00:03:30,127 We don't (bleep) hate cops. 61 00:03:30,127 --> 00:03:33,547 But what we, we don't like are the dirty portion of them, 62 00:03:33,547 --> 00:03:38,009 who like to stand before a group of mainstream media press, 63 00:03:38,009 --> 00:03:41,304 and then, they like to call us the Mafia on two wheels. 64 00:03:41,596 --> 00:03:42,639 VAN ZELLER: They call you gangs, right? 65 00:03:42,639 --> 00:03:44,266 STEWART: Yeah, gangs. 66 00:03:44,266 --> 00:03:45,350 VAN ZELLER: They don't call you clubs. They call you gangs. 67 00:03:45,350 --> 00:03:45,976 STEWART: They love to use that word. 68 00:03:45,976 --> 00:03:47,894 Gang, gang, gang. 69 00:03:48,228 --> 00:03:49,813 VAN ZELLER: Why is it that there's so much, um, 70 00:03:49,813 --> 00:03:52,941 animosity between different clubs? 71 00:03:53,442 --> 00:03:56,278 STEWART: I wouldn't say that there is. 72 00:03:56,278 --> 00:03:58,572 VAN ZELLER: So you guys are best friends with all the other clubs. 73 00:03:58,572 --> 00:03:59,990 STEWART: I wouldn't say that either. 74 00:03:59,990 --> 00:04:02,325 Our club motto is "We give what we get". 75 00:04:02,325 --> 00:04:03,994 VAN ZELLER: Uh‐hmm. 76 00:04:03,994 --> 00:04:05,996 STEWART: And sometimes it results in some really rough stuff. 77 00:04:05,996 --> 00:04:08,665 VAN ZELLER: What about murder? STEWART: What about it? 78 00:04:08,665 --> 00:04:10,959 VAN ZELLER: That you guys have been involved in murder. 79 00:04:10,959 --> 00:04:14,379 STEWART: Well, every once in a while, 80 00:04:14,379 --> 00:04:17,340 a melee between a couple of guys or a couple of clubs go at it. 81 00:04:17,340 --> 00:04:20,635 Maybe, maybe a guy dies. 82 00:04:21,678 --> 00:04:23,555 When we go into this life, 83 00:04:23,555 --> 00:04:25,640 we know that that is something that could happen. 84 00:04:26,475 --> 00:04:29,186 OFFICER: Members of the Vagos motorcycle gang were armed. 85 00:04:30,353 --> 00:04:32,522 VAN ZELLER: The Vagos have a bloody history. 86 00:04:32,522 --> 00:04:35,066 OFFICER: They are an immediate threat to the public safety. 87 00:04:35,066 --> 00:04:37,402 VAN ZELLER: But it's hard to get anyone to say 88 00:04:37,402 --> 00:04:39,154 what's behind the violence. 89 00:04:40,197 --> 00:04:42,115 One of the things that you hear all the time is that 90 00:04:42,115 --> 00:04:44,576 "Motorcycle clubs are involved in drug trafficking." 91 00:04:45,118 --> 00:04:46,578 STEWART: It's false. 92 00:04:46,578 --> 00:04:48,246 VAN ZELLER: And that's not something you've ever witnessed, 93 00:04:48,246 --> 00:04:49,915 or saw, or you do not condone that? 94 00:04:49,915 --> 00:04:53,043 STEWART: As far as the Vagos motorcycle club being 95 00:04:53,043 --> 00:04:59,132 some amazingly disorganized yet organized drug empire, 96 00:04:59,925 --> 00:05:01,051 forget about it. 97 00:05:01,051 --> 00:05:02,677 Not a chance. 98 00:05:02,677 --> 00:05:05,555 I mean, of course, I'm on film, I wouldn't say it if we were, 99 00:05:05,555 --> 00:05:07,599 but I mean, it's utterly ridiculous. 100 00:05:09,976 --> 00:05:12,646 I don't know what every single guy does for a living. 101 00:05:12,646 --> 00:05:14,940 I mean, I have no doubt that there might be a couple of guys 102 00:05:14,940 --> 00:05:16,858 that are up to no good. 103 00:05:16,858 --> 00:05:19,277 I don't judge my brothers, that's their business. 104 00:05:21,988 --> 00:05:24,032 VAN ZELLER: Bigfoot wants me to believe in 105 00:05:24,032 --> 00:05:26,701 what's called "The bad apple" defense. 106 00:05:26,701 --> 00:05:29,955 The idea that the entire club isn't criminal, 107 00:05:29,955 --> 00:05:31,957 just a few bad apples. 108 00:05:33,333 --> 00:05:35,961 I'm suspicious, but I just don't know enough to know 109 00:05:35,961 --> 00:05:37,671 if he's telling me the truth. 110 00:05:38,171 --> 00:05:40,757 I need to better understand these bikers. 111 00:05:40,757 --> 00:05:42,676 I need to go to Sturgis. 112 00:05:57,899 --> 00:06:03,947 (cheering) 113 00:06:08,451 --> 00:06:10,495 VAN ZELLER: For 10 days, every August, 114 00:06:10,495 --> 00:06:13,790 the tiny town of Sturgis, South Dakota gets a little rowdy. 115 00:06:21,339 --> 00:06:22,716 VAN ZELLER: That's what happens when the 116 00:06:22,716 --> 00:06:26,011 city of 7,000 people plays host to half a million. 117 00:06:26,803 --> 00:06:28,638 Most of them in leather. 118 00:06:31,725 --> 00:06:33,059 Who comes to Sturgis? 119 00:06:33,059 --> 00:06:36,354 MONTHEY: Everybody. It's all walks of lives. 120 00:06:36,354 --> 00:06:39,316 You have doctors and attorneys that are here. 121 00:06:39,316 --> 00:06:41,318 You have people that are homeless here 122 00:06:41,318 --> 00:06:43,111 and everybody in between. 123 00:06:45,697 --> 00:06:49,075 VAN ZELLER: But there's a darker side to the Sturgis motorcycle rally. 124 00:06:50,035 --> 00:06:51,953 That's why I'm here. 125 00:06:51,953 --> 00:06:55,832 And why Shane comes too, 14 years running. 126 00:06:55,832 --> 00:06:58,084 MONTHEY: I work for the local police department. 127 00:06:58,668 --> 00:07:01,463 VAN ZELLER: He's one of the more than 100 law enforcement agents 128 00:07:01,463 --> 00:07:04,090 brought in from other cities to patrol the event. 129 00:07:04,716 --> 00:07:07,218 Over the years, Sturgis has seen plenty of violence. 130 00:07:08,136 --> 00:07:09,846 MAN: It's really intense, man, they were going at it, 131 00:07:09,846 --> 00:07:11,348 the Mongols and the Hells Angels. 132 00:07:12,557 --> 00:07:14,392 MONTHEY: I've witnessed a shooting. 133 00:07:15,185 --> 00:07:19,064 I've witnessed a stabbing, and then just your basic assaults. 134 00:07:21,900 --> 00:07:23,735 VAN ZELLER: Shane says most of the trouble originates 135 00:07:23,735 --> 00:07:25,111 with One Percenters. 136 00:07:29,282 --> 00:07:31,201 MONTHEY: Laws don't apply to them. 137 00:07:31,201 --> 00:07:32,786 VAN ZELLER: So you don't think they're afraid 138 00:07:32,786 --> 00:07:34,120 of law enforcement at all? 139 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:35,121 MONTHEY: You know, if they want to do something, 140 00:07:35,121 --> 00:07:36,122 they're going to do it. 141 00:07:36,122 --> 00:07:37,374 VAN ZELLER: As a journalist, 142 00:07:37,374 --> 00:07:38,750 if I'm trying to get into these clubs 143 00:07:38,750 --> 00:07:40,418 and see how they operate, um, 144 00:07:40,418 --> 00:07:42,754 do you think that's an easy thing to do? 145 00:07:42,754 --> 00:07:45,048 MONTHEY: I would say no. 146 00:07:45,048 --> 00:07:46,633 I would say good luck. 147 00:07:48,093 --> 00:07:49,803 VAN ZELLER: I hit the streets of Sturgis, 148 00:07:49,803 --> 00:07:51,763 eager to find another way in. 149 00:07:53,014 --> 00:07:54,641 What's strange about this story, 150 00:07:54,641 --> 00:07:57,310 especially compared to other investigations I've done, 151 00:07:57,310 --> 00:07:59,688 is that these One Percenters aren't hard to find. 152 00:08:00,939 --> 00:08:03,441 They literally wear their allegiances on their backs. 153 00:08:04,734 --> 00:08:06,569 But that doesn't mean they want to talk. 154 00:08:08,780 --> 00:08:11,616 These One Percenter clubs are so secretive, 155 00:08:11,616 --> 00:08:13,702 that some of them don't even stay in Sturgis. 156 00:08:15,078 --> 00:08:17,038 They stay outside of town, 157 00:08:17,038 --> 00:08:20,750 at private campgrounds that apparently, get wild. 158 00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:26,464 Searching for an invite, 159 00:08:26,464 --> 00:08:29,634 I reach out to a biker turned radio host named "Hollywood." 160 00:08:30,343 --> 00:08:32,470 Who I hear is popular with the One Percenters. 161 00:08:33,263 --> 00:08:34,556 MACECARI: And welcome to this edition of 162 00:08:34,556 --> 00:08:36,391 Motorcycle Madhouse Radio. 163 00:08:36,391 --> 00:08:38,810 Thanks for joining us. 164 00:08:39,519 --> 00:08:41,396 (phone ringing) 165 00:08:41,396 --> 00:08:42,772 MACECERI (over phone): This is Hollywood. 166 00:08:42,772 --> 00:08:44,107 VAN ZELLER: Hi, Hollywood. 167 00:08:44,107 --> 00:08:45,316 It's Mariana. How are you doing? 168 00:08:45,316 --> 00:08:47,235 It's a long shot, but I asked if he can get me 169 00:08:47,235 --> 00:08:49,612 inside one of these campgrounds. 170 00:08:50,947 --> 00:08:53,533 To my surprise, he comes through. 171 00:08:54,367 --> 00:08:57,078 That's where I'm heading now, to meet a One Percenter club 172 00:08:57,078 --> 00:08:58,872 called the "Sons of Silence." 173 00:09:17,390 --> 00:09:19,225 VAN ZELLER: Why do you think they agreed to speak to us then? 174 00:09:28,902 --> 00:09:30,361 VAN ZELLER: So when I see the guard and the gate, 175 00:09:30,361 --> 00:09:32,572 I'll ask you guys to put the cameras down. 176 00:09:32,572 --> 00:09:34,991 Which I think is here actually, so cameras down. 177 00:09:34,991 --> 00:09:36,868 We're here. We're here. 178 00:09:37,577 --> 00:09:39,954 I have no idea what we're walking into. 179 00:09:42,248 --> 00:09:48,046 (motorcycle engine) 180 00:09:57,889 --> 00:10:00,642 Okay. So I hope this goes well. 181 00:10:08,399 --> 00:10:10,693 VAN ZELLER: There's a steady drumbeat of violence 182 00:10:10,693 --> 00:10:13,613 within biker culture. 183 00:10:13,613 --> 00:10:16,908 My quest to understand why has led me to the private campground 184 00:10:16,908 --> 00:10:21,037 of a One Percenter Club called the Sons of Silence. 185 00:10:23,456 --> 00:10:25,625 It's like something out of Mad Max. 186 00:10:27,043 --> 00:10:29,838 But our invite has come with some restrictions. 187 00:10:30,255 --> 00:10:32,715 We can "Watch but not engage". 188 00:10:40,682 --> 00:10:43,059 Oh my God. This is (bleep) crazy. 189 00:10:43,059 --> 00:10:45,103 What the (bleep)? 190 00:10:56,197 --> 00:10:58,241 No members can speak on camera 191 00:10:58,241 --> 00:11:01,536 without permission from the leaders. 192 00:11:02,245 --> 00:11:05,498 So I'm stuck, just looking at these men. 193 00:11:05,999 --> 00:11:10,587 (camera shutter) 194 00:11:10,587 --> 00:11:12,547 These faces. 195 00:11:14,841 --> 00:11:17,844 I find myself thinking about the faces of their brothers. 196 00:11:17,844 --> 00:11:20,305 The ones I've seen in mug shots. 197 00:11:21,264 --> 00:11:22,724 REPORTER: Federal authorities indicted members 198 00:11:22,724 --> 00:11:25,768 of the Sons of Silence motorcycle gang. 199 00:11:25,768 --> 00:11:29,606 OFFICIAL: An illegal narcotics trafficking organization. 200 00:11:29,606 --> 00:11:31,024 VAN ZELLER: In the 12 years, 201 00:11:31,024 --> 00:11:32,775 club members have been convicted of everything, 202 00:11:32,775 --> 00:11:35,445 from selling meth and cocaine, to sex trafficking, 203 00:11:36,362 --> 00:11:40,033 intimidation, extortion, assault, abduction, and murder. 204 00:11:42,368 --> 00:11:44,412 That rap sheet is front of mind 205 00:11:44,412 --> 00:11:46,956 as I tour the grounds campground with our minder, 206 00:11:46,956 --> 00:11:48,541 a biker named Cody, 207 00:11:49,125 --> 00:11:51,294 who wears an "Enforcer" patch. 208 00:11:51,294 --> 00:11:53,671 Do most members come? 209 00:11:53,671 --> 00:11:55,840 CODY: It's a mandatory run, so everybody comes. 210 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,175 VAN ZELLER: It's mandatory to come? 211 00:11:57,175 --> 00:11:58,968 Oh, I didn't know that. 212 00:11:58,968 --> 00:12:02,222 Apparently, I'm not the only one who's got rules to follow. 213 00:12:02,722 --> 00:12:04,682 What's this? 214 00:12:04,682 --> 00:12:06,601 CODY: Every chapter has a flag. 215 00:12:06,601 --> 00:12:07,810 And when they get here, 216 00:12:07,810 --> 00:12:10,063 they hang it on a flag and raise it up. 217 00:12:10,063 --> 00:12:11,898 VAN ZELLER: Huh. 218 00:12:12,190 --> 00:12:14,192 How many are supposed to be up here, do you know? 219 00:12:14,192 --> 00:12:15,944 CODY: I do. 220 00:12:15,944 --> 00:12:17,153 VAN ZELLER: You don't wanna tell me? 221 00:12:17,153 --> 00:12:19,072 Okay. 222 00:12:19,072 --> 00:12:21,491 CODY: That's where the silence part comes in. 223 00:12:27,455 --> 00:12:28,790 VAN ZELLER: How often is it that you have cameras 224 00:12:28,790 --> 00:12:30,124 filming these events? 225 00:12:30,124 --> 00:12:31,417 CODY: Never. 226 00:12:31,417 --> 00:12:33,628 Never at all. 227 00:12:38,716 --> 00:12:41,803 VAN ZELLER: Okay. BOAR: I'm game. VAN ZELLER: Yeah? 228 00:12:41,803 --> 00:12:43,429 BOAR: It's your show, let's go. 229 00:12:43,429 --> 00:12:45,390 VAN ZELLER: The only members we're allowed to interview 230 00:12:45,390 --> 00:12:47,475 are Cody and a man named Boar, 231 00:12:48,268 --> 00:12:50,186 who's been in the club nearly 50 years, 232 00:12:51,187 --> 00:12:53,898 but even our interview has strict rules attached. 233 00:12:54,607 --> 00:12:58,236 So I'm going to ask you the questions that we've agreed upon. 234 00:12:58,236 --> 00:12:59,570 BOAR: Uh‐hmm. 235 00:12:59,570 --> 00:13:01,364 VAN ZELLER: I'd say it's the first time that I have 236 00:13:01,364 --> 00:13:02,824 a list of questions in front of me 237 00:13:02,824 --> 00:13:04,450 because I usually like it to be more of a conversation. 238 00:13:04,450 --> 00:13:06,452 But we've agreed upon these questions 239 00:13:06,452 --> 00:13:08,997 and I believe you have answers in front of you. 240 00:13:08,997 --> 00:13:10,832 So, first question is, 241 00:13:10,832 --> 00:13:13,293 what attracts people to motorcycle clubs? 242 00:13:13,293 --> 00:13:15,461 BOAR: A lot of people are attracted here 243 00:13:15,461 --> 00:13:17,922 due to the freedom and the love of riding motorcycles. 244 00:13:18,423 --> 00:13:19,841 VAN ZELLER: Uh‐hmm. 245 00:13:19,841 --> 00:13:21,634 BOAR: The brotherhood and the sense of family 246 00:13:21,634 --> 00:13:25,513 and belonging to something bigger than yourself. 247 00:13:29,976 --> 00:13:31,894 VAN ZELLER: What makes this brotherhood different 248 00:13:31,894 --> 00:13:34,856 than just regular friends? 249 00:13:34,856 --> 00:13:37,317 BOAR: A lot of these guys we have in our club 250 00:13:37,317 --> 00:13:40,653 are veterans of every war you can think of. 251 00:13:42,405 --> 00:13:44,866 When I came, around 46 years ago, 252 00:13:44,866 --> 00:13:46,784 it was all Vietnam veterans. 253 00:13:47,243 --> 00:13:50,204 When they came home from what they ever did elsewhere, 254 00:13:50,204 --> 00:13:53,791 they were told just to go home and be happy you're home. 255 00:13:55,126 --> 00:13:57,128 VAN ZELLER: Many of these returning soldiers 256 00:13:57,128 --> 00:13:58,921 struggled to adjust, 257 00:13:58,921 --> 00:14:00,965 especially in the face of a protest movement 258 00:14:00,965 --> 00:14:03,342 that often blamed them for the failures 259 00:14:03,342 --> 00:14:05,386 and atrocities of the war. 260 00:14:05,887 --> 00:14:08,306 Seeking the camaraderie they'd known while serving, 261 00:14:08,306 --> 00:14:11,684 many were drawn to these civilian "Bands of brothers." 262 00:14:14,228 --> 00:14:16,397 MAN: This is freedom for me. 263 00:14:16,397 --> 00:14:18,691 What's real? It ain't plastic. 264 00:14:18,691 --> 00:14:20,693 Society's creepy. 265 00:14:20,693 --> 00:14:22,612 Mind (bleep). 266 00:14:27,325 --> 00:14:31,621 BOAR: Some of the veterans have had their fill of people. 267 00:14:32,163 --> 00:14:34,832 But here, they feel like they're at home. 268 00:14:34,832 --> 00:14:37,502 This is where everybody is accepted 269 00:14:37,502 --> 00:14:40,004 if this is where you want to be. 270 00:14:40,004 --> 00:14:42,632 And that's what this was all about. 271 00:14:43,424 --> 00:14:46,010 VAN ZELLER: The military's influence is telling, 272 00:14:46,010 --> 00:14:50,264 on the surface, the scene feels wild and freewheeling 273 00:14:50,264 --> 00:14:53,267 but there's a structure that lies beneath. 274 00:14:53,267 --> 00:14:55,353 The mandatory attendance. 275 00:14:55,353 --> 00:14:57,688 The flag displays. 276 00:14:57,688 --> 00:15:00,733 The organized competitions. 277 00:15:01,317 --> 00:15:03,986 They wear a different kind of uniform, 278 00:15:03,986 --> 00:15:06,656 but they are still trained to obey their leaders. 279 00:15:07,281 --> 00:15:10,034 BOAR: In our club, it takes at least a year 280 00:15:10,034 --> 00:15:12,411 to be a full patch holder. 281 00:15:12,411 --> 00:15:16,249 VAN ZELLER: Potential members must undergo a vetting process. 282 00:15:16,249 --> 00:15:17,917 "Prospects", as they're known, 283 00:15:17,917 --> 00:15:19,794 prove their commitment to the club 284 00:15:19,794 --> 00:15:22,213 by following members' orders. 285 00:15:22,213 --> 00:15:25,466 It's not hard to spot these prospects around camp. 286 00:15:25,466 --> 00:15:28,344 I see one tending the fire. 287 00:15:28,344 --> 00:15:30,138 Another one on his bike. 288 00:15:30,138 --> 00:15:32,473 They can only wear what's called the "Bottom rocker", 289 00:15:32,473 --> 00:15:34,308 ID'ing their chapter. 290 00:15:34,308 --> 00:15:37,770 Only once accepted do they become "Full patch" members 291 00:15:37,770 --> 00:15:40,815 and earn their "Colors", the club's logo. 292 00:15:42,525 --> 00:15:44,402 BOAR: If they're not satisfactory to what 293 00:15:44,402 --> 00:15:47,029 we're looking for, we get rid of them. 294 00:15:47,864 --> 00:15:49,532 VAN ZELLER: Can I ask you though, 295 00:15:49,532 --> 00:15:52,743 about the tattoos and the meanings of the tattoos and the patches? 296 00:15:52,743 --> 00:15:54,203 BOAR: Okay. 297 00:15:54,203 --> 00:15:57,290 VAN ZELLER: The "SS" which you know was the elite team 298 00:15:57,290 --> 00:15:59,125 of the Nazis, right? 299 00:15:59,125 --> 00:16:03,379 Or does the "SS" represent something else for you? 300 00:16:03,379 --> 00:16:07,008 CODY: For me, it does, but I'm not going to talk about it. 301 00:16:08,551 --> 00:16:12,305 VAN ZELLER: Cody may deny it, but charges of racism and sexism 302 00:16:12,305 --> 00:16:15,183 have dogged these One Percenter clubs through the years. 303 00:16:16,309 --> 00:16:20,354 BOAR: If you were a member, you'd understand some tattoos 304 00:16:20,354 --> 00:16:22,231 are to keep people away. 305 00:16:22,231 --> 00:16:23,691 VAN ZELLER: Uh‐hmm. 306 00:16:23,691 --> 00:16:26,861 BOAR: And don't ask, does that make sense? 307 00:16:26,861 --> 00:16:30,072 VAN ZELLER: Absolutely. I won't ask about the tattoos anymore then. 308 00:16:30,072 --> 00:16:31,574 BOAR: I didn't hear you. 309 00:16:31,574 --> 00:16:33,409 VAN ZELLER: I won't ask about the tattoos anymore then. 310 00:16:33,409 --> 00:16:34,660 BOAR: Thank you. 311 00:16:34,660 --> 00:16:36,996 VAN ZELLER: But I also won't stay on script. 312 00:16:36,996 --> 00:16:40,333 What exactly is an outlaw biker? What does that mean? 313 00:16:41,250 --> 00:16:43,586 BOAR: That one, I don't think is a good question. 314 00:16:46,088 --> 00:16:48,299 The police are the ones that have deemed us 315 00:16:48,299 --> 00:16:50,551 to be "Outlaws." 316 00:16:50,551 --> 00:16:53,221 This is who we are, what we are, and what we do. 317 00:16:53,679 --> 00:16:56,766 I think they're trying to portray us as something we, 318 00:16:56,766 --> 00:16:58,976 we're not. 319 00:16:59,727 --> 00:17:03,231 VAN ZELLER: And it's, it is working, because, you know, 320 00:17:03,231 --> 00:17:05,816 I've been to many places in my life, but yet, 321 00:17:05,816 --> 00:17:07,401 I was intimidated coming here. 322 00:17:07,401 --> 00:17:09,570 I wasn't sure what to expect. 323 00:17:09,570 --> 00:17:11,447 Is that something that you want to continue 324 00:17:11,447 --> 00:17:13,407 or is that something that you're hoping 325 00:17:13,407 --> 00:17:16,035 will change your image to the outside world? 326 00:17:16,035 --> 00:17:18,663 CODY: We don't give a (bleep) what people think about us. 327 00:17:19,664 --> 00:17:21,207 VAN ZELLER: Right. 328 00:17:21,207 --> 00:17:23,751 But you also don't want people to think that you are criminals. 329 00:17:23,751 --> 00:17:25,378 BOAR: We really don't care. 330 00:17:25,378 --> 00:17:28,756 We're not here to be anything to anybody. 331 00:17:29,966 --> 00:17:31,634 We're here for us. 332 00:17:33,219 --> 00:17:35,429 VAN ZELLER: Is it possible that these One Percenters 333 00:17:35,429 --> 00:17:37,932 just have an image problem? 334 00:17:37,932 --> 00:17:41,269 That they aren't really outlaws, just outcasts, 335 00:17:41,269 --> 00:17:43,354 wanting to be left alone? 336 00:17:44,063 --> 00:17:48,192 Unsure, I head back to LA, where I connect with a new source, 337 00:17:49,151 --> 00:17:51,487 a biker who says he's willing to open up 338 00:17:51,487 --> 00:17:54,323 about how these clubs really operate from the inside. 339 00:17:55,908 --> 00:17:58,286 KOZLOWSKI: That One Percenter patch that you see on my vest here. 340 00:17:58,286 --> 00:18:01,122 They wear that as a badge declaring, 341 00:18:01,122 --> 00:18:03,207 "Hey, we are a gang. 342 00:18:03,207 --> 00:18:05,543 We are a criminal organization." 343 00:18:05,543 --> 00:18:07,003 They know what it means. 344 00:18:07,003 --> 00:18:09,130 The culture knows what it means. 345 00:18:09,130 --> 00:18:12,049 But they're not going to say that. 346 00:18:12,049 --> 00:18:14,927 They're going to call themselves a club, we're a motorcycle club, 347 00:18:14,927 --> 00:18:16,429 "We just like to do what we do 348 00:18:16,429 --> 00:18:18,055 because it's the freedom of the riding." 349 00:18:18,055 --> 00:18:20,182 They're going to distance themselves 350 00:18:20,182 --> 00:18:22,602 from any opportunity to say that they're an actual gang. 351 00:18:22,602 --> 00:18:25,438 VAN ZELLER: How many clubs did you infiltrate? 352 00:18:25,438 --> 00:18:27,064 KOZLOWSKI: Personally, I've infiltrated 353 00:18:27,064 --> 00:18:28,858 three separate motorcycle gangs. 354 00:18:28,858 --> 00:18:31,986 And each one of them becoming a full‐patch member in all three. 355 00:18:32,778 --> 00:18:34,864 VAN ZELLER: In all three, you became a full‐patch member? 356 00:18:34,864 --> 00:18:36,324 KOZLOWSKI: Yes. 357 00:18:36,324 --> 00:18:38,284 VAN ZELLER: That's right. This dude is a federal agent 358 00:18:38,284 --> 00:18:40,494 and within law enforcement circles, 359 00:18:40,494 --> 00:18:42,538 a legend. 360 00:18:42,538 --> 00:18:44,457 His name is Darrin Kozlowski. 361 00:18:44,457 --> 00:18:45,833 Better known as "Koz." 362 00:18:47,168 --> 00:18:51,047 KOZLOWSKI: Between 1997 and 2008, 363 00:18:51,047 --> 00:18:52,798 I was undercover full time 364 00:18:52,798 --> 00:18:55,384 for approximately six of those eleven years 365 00:18:55,384 --> 00:18:57,219 in those three gangs. 366 00:18:58,679 --> 00:19:00,306 VAN ZELLER: Koz explains that these clubs 367 00:19:00,306 --> 00:19:02,391 had sold the public a story, 368 00:19:02,391 --> 00:19:07,355 the same story that the Sons of Silence and Bigfoot 369 00:19:07,355 --> 00:19:08,856 tried to sell me. 370 00:19:10,024 --> 00:19:14,278 But the reality is much dirtier and, he's lived it. 371 00:19:22,453 --> 00:19:26,791 ♪ ♪ 372 00:19:26,791 --> 00:19:29,251 KOZLOWSKI: As undercovers, we are thinking the worst. 373 00:19:29,251 --> 00:19:32,338 People have been killed even being suspected 374 00:19:32,338 --> 00:19:35,132 of being informants or snitches for these kinds of gangs. 375 00:19:36,050 --> 00:19:37,718 And there's been murders from people even thinking 376 00:19:37,718 --> 00:19:40,221 that they were informants, and they even weren't. 377 00:19:40,221 --> 00:19:41,472 VAN ZELLER: Uh‐hmm. 378 00:19:41,472 --> 00:19:45,017 Darren Kozlowski lived with that fear for years 379 00:19:45,017 --> 00:19:47,353 as an undercover agent with the ATF, 380 00:19:47,353 --> 00:19:49,438 the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, 381 00:19:49,438 --> 00:19:51,982 he infiltrated three of the most notorious 382 00:19:51,982 --> 00:19:54,026 One Percenter motorcycle clubs. 383 00:19:54,485 --> 00:19:57,071 The Vagos, Warlocks, and Mongols. 384 00:19:58,155 --> 00:20:00,574 KOZLOWSKI: They'll make money from any means necessary. 385 00:20:00,574 --> 00:20:03,285 They're opportunists, so if it's the drug game, weapons, 386 00:20:03,285 --> 00:20:06,330 if it's prostitution, they'll find a way to do it. 387 00:20:07,456 --> 00:20:09,750 And on top of that, you'll have the other events 388 00:20:09,750 --> 00:20:10,835 that come along with it. 389 00:20:10,835 --> 00:20:12,878 The violence, the fighting, the stabbings, 390 00:20:12,878 --> 00:20:15,339 the territorial disputes, the murders. 391 00:20:16,257 --> 00:20:18,259 VAN ZELLER: Koz explains that the brotherhood 392 00:20:18,259 --> 00:20:20,010 these clubs talk about is real 393 00:20:20,010 --> 00:20:22,888 and it's also what makes them effective as criminal gangs. 394 00:20:23,889 --> 00:20:26,851 KOZLOWSKI: It gives them that means to conduct their business 395 00:20:26,851 --> 00:20:29,812 with that level of trust. 396 00:20:29,812 --> 00:20:32,648 That separates them a little bit differently from everybody else. 397 00:20:32,648 --> 00:20:35,443 And then when they're getting some heat from another rival gang, 398 00:20:35,443 --> 00:20:37,403 yeah, they can make a phone call to LA 399 00:20:37,403 --> 00:20:40,740 and LA is going to send 100 dudes to that area 400 00:20:40,740 --> 00:20:43,659 and that's going to be followed with intimidation, 401 00:20:43,659 --> 00:20:46,746 going into bars, acts of violence, stabbings, beatings, 402 00:20:46,746 --> 00:20:49,665 whatever it may be to establish themselves of the, 403 00:20:49,665 --> 00:20:50,958 to a point of dominance 404 00:20:51,625 --> 00:20:53,043 that we're not here to be (bleep) with. 405 00:20:55,296 --> 00:20:57,548 VAN ZELLER: Koz tells me the Bronx killing was the result 406 00:20:57,548 --> 00:20:59,133 of a classic turf rivalry. 407 00:21:00,384 --> 00:21:02,428 The Pagans were unhappy that the Hells Angels 408 00:21:02,428 --> 00:21:05,723 had moved their clubhouse into the Bronx. 409 00:21:05,723 --> 00:21:09,101 The beef escalated and the Pagan leader was gunned down. 410 00:21:10,394 --> 00:21:11,937 KOZLOWSKI: Because in their culture, 411 00:21:11,937 --> 00:21:15,733 that patch means so much, that gang means so much to them, 412 00:21:15,733 --> 00:21:18,152 that's what they live and die over. 413 00:21:21,447 --> 00:21:23,991 VAN ZELLER: Weeks later, Koz tips me off 414 00:21:23,991 --> 00:21:25,951 to a One Percenter's funeral. 415 00:21:26,702 --> 00:21:29,747 A member of the Mongols Motorcycle Club has died 416 00:21:29,747 --> 00:21:32,082 and his brothers are gathering for a tradition 417 00:21:32,082 --> 00:21:33,709 called "The Last Ride". 418 00:21:38,005 --> 00:21:40,257 Wow, you can see all the bikes already up there. 419 00:21:40,257 --> 00:21:42,009 CICCONE: Yeah, wait until you see the procession. 420 00:21:42,009 --> 00:21:43,886 There's, there will be 400 or 500 bikes. 421 00:21:43,886 --> 00:21:45,805 VAN ZELLER: Yeah? 422 00:21:45,805 --> 00:21:47,473 CICCONE: It's even impressive for us and we've been working it forever. 423 00:21:47,473 --> 00:21:49,016 VAN ZELLER: But there's something else that makes 424 00:21:49,016 --> 00:21:52,812 this funeral different, it's being monitored by the feds. 425 00:21:53,437 --> 00:21:54,563 CICCONE: They know that we're out here. 426 00:21:54,563 --> 00:21:55,815 VAN ZELLER: Yeah. 427 00:21:55,815 --> 00:21:57,233 CICCONE: This isn't like a covert stealthy thing. 428 00:21:57,233 --> 00:21:59,276 That, you know, creates a perception in their mind 429 00:21:59,276 --> 00:22:01,821 that we're still working them. 430 00:22:01,821 --> 00:22:03,697 And waiting for them to slip up. 431 00:22:05,616 --> 00:22:07,326 VAN ZELLER: Special agent John Ciccone 432 00:22:07,326 --> 00:22:10,412 leads ATF's investigations into One Percenter clubs 433 00:22:10,412 --> 00:22:12,540 in Southern California. 434 00:22:12,540 --> 00:22:14,458 During Koz's years undercover, 435 00:22:14,458 --> 00:22:16,961 he considered Ciccone his guardian angel. 436 00:22:16,961 --> 00:22:18,295 CICCONE: So what's gonna happen is, 437 00:22:18,295 --> 00:22:20,172 you're gonna have your road captains, right? 438 00:22:20,172 --> 00:22:21,882 Which are these guys. 439 00:22:21,882 --> 00:22:27,763 And their job is to block off intersections as this thing proceeds, 440 00:22:28,264 --> 00:22:31,392 so it keeps the whole pack together. 441 00:22:31,392 --> 00:22:33,060 VAN ZELLER: Are they allowed to do this, to block the roads? 442 00:22:33,060 --> 00:22:34,520 CICCONE: No, but who's gonna stop them. 443 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,063 You're not going to get yourself in the middle of all that, 444 00:22:36,063 --> 00:22:39,400 just because they run a red light, you know what I mean? 445 00:22:41,902 --> 00:22:44,613 CICCONE: There's a lot of 'em, man. 446 00:22:45,072 --> 00:22:46,866 VAN ZELLER: The bikers fall into formation, again, 447 00:22:46,866 --> 00:22:49,285 I sense the military's influence. 448 00:22:49,827 --> 00:22:52,371 The Last Ride is a show of respect, 449 00:22:52,371 --> 00:22:56,709 but it's also a very public display of force. 450 00:22:59,211 --> 00:23:01,338 Oh, wow, so that's the hearse right here. 451 00:23:01,338 --> 00:23:03,924 CICCONE: Yup, and then you got one guy protecting it. 452 00:23:03,924 --> 00:23:05,384 One rider. 453 00:23:05,384 --> 00:23:08,095 VAN ZELLER: And then it's just a sea of bikes behind. 454 00:23:12,016 --> 00:23:13,309 Wow, they're looking at us. 455 00:23:13,309 --> 00:23:15,561 CICCONE: Yeah, it's going to get dicey. 456 00:23:16,103 --> 00:23:18,272 VAN ZELLER: Holy (bleep). 457 00:23:18,272 --> 00:23:21,400 I mean, the whole car is shaking. 458 00:23:22,943 --> 00:23:24,028 Did you see that? 459 00:23:24,028 --> 00:23:25,696 He flipped a middle finger at us. 460 00:23:25,696 --> 00:23:27,364 CICCONE: Yeah. 461 00:23:31,702 --> 00:23:32,870 VAN ZELLER: I'm truly. 462 00:23:32,870 --> 00:23:36,457 Like my body just need a rest right now. 463 00:23:36,457 --> 00:23:38,584 So intense. 464 00:23:40,169 --> 00:23:41,712 CICCONE: I've primarily worked the Mongols, 465 00:23:41,712 --> 00:23:43,297 so I know the most about them. 466 00:23:43,297 --> 00:23:48,302 They want to instill fear and intimidation wherever they go. 467 00:23:48,302 --> 00:23:51,180 I consider them one of the most violent out there. 468 00:23:51,889 --> 00:23:53,933 VAN ZELLER: Over the years, ATF's work has led 469 00:23:53,933 --> 00:23:56,143 to several major takedowns. 470 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:57,853 O'BRIEN: Homicides, narcotics, 471 00:23:57,853 --> 00:24:00,147 some extremely violent individuals 472 00:24:00,147 --> 00:24:02,066 who were taken off the street today. 473 00:24:02,483 --> 00:24:04,193 REPORTER: Speaking before a treasure trove 474 00:24:04,193 --> 00:24:06,028 of seized assets form the gang, 475 00:24:06,028 --> 00:24:08,113 the US attorney announced a major sweep 476 00:24:08,113 --> 00:24:10,449 and takedown of the Mongols. 477 00:24:10,449 --> 00:24:12,451 He called them a violent criminal enterprise. 478 00:24:13,702 --> 00:24:14,870 CICCONE: We convicted the gang. 479 00:24:15,371 --> 00:24:18,165 We had four agents that were members for three years. 480 00:24:18,832 --> 00:24:21,251 I mean, they went through the process, hang around, 481 00:24:21,251 --> 00:24:24,171 prospecting, and then full‐patch membership for that time period. 482 00:24:24,171 --> 00:24:27,383 But, you know, the protocols were broken down to them. 483 00:24:27,383 --> 00:24:30,636 You know, if you see a Hells Angel, shoot on sight. 484 00:24:35,099 --> 00:24:38,811 The Mongols have killed three Hells Angels in the last month. 485 00:24:39,061 --> 00:24:40,104 VAN ZELLER: No way. 486 00:24:40,104 --> 00:24:42,064 CICCONE: There was a shooting here, 487 00:24:42,064 --> 00:24:44,191 and then Denver was a murder, Indiana a murder, 488 00:24:44,191 --> 00:24:46,819 Cleveland, Ohio a murder. 489 00:24:46,819 --> 00:24:48,654 VAN ZELLER: So there's a huge fight going on between the two? 490 00:24:48,654 --> 00:24:52,032 CICCONE: Yeah, it's been that way since the '70s. 491 00:24:56,203 --> 00:24:59,581 VAN ZELLER: Agent Ciccone shows me the video of a massive brawl 492 00:24:59,581 --> 00:25:01,667 inside a Nevada casino. 493 00:25:04,837 --> 00:25:08,257 Two Hells Angels died from gunshots and a Mongol was 494 00:25:08,257 --> 00:25:09,675 stabbed to death. 495 00:25:11,844 --> 00:25:13,804 (gunshots) 496 00:25:13,804 --> 00:25:16,473 CICCONE: 3,000 innocent civilians in that casino. 497 00:25:16,473 --> 00:25:19,685 They didn't give a (bleep) and the Hells Angels didn't give a (bleep). 498 00:25:19,685 --> 00:25:21,562 They came in and got it on. They got it on. 499 00:25:22,354 --> 00:25:24,440 Because they're, that's what gang members do. 500 00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:29,111 VAN ZELLER: Ciccone explains how the clubs encourage these rivalries. 501 00:25:29,111 --> 00:25:31,196 CICCONE: If you confront another rival gang member, 502 00:25:31,196 --> 00:25:32,948 you get a Respect Few, Fear None patch. 503 00:25:32,948 --> 00:25:34,992 You know, it's a badge of honor. 504 00:25:34,992 --> 00:25:37,995 If you're involved in a shooting or a murder, 505 00:25:37,995 --> 00:25:40,330 you get a skull and crossbones patch. 506 00:25:41,874 --> 00:25:44,626 So they're promoting the violence 507 00:25:44,626 --> 00:25:46,545 and rewarding the violence. 508 00:25:46,545 --> 00:25:48,255 VAN ZELLER: Giving them patches. 509 00:25:48,505 --> 00:25:50,007 Of course. 510 00:25:50,007 --> 00:25:52,968 It's been right there in front of my face the whole time. 511 00:25:53,969 --> 00:25:55,763 Stitched into the leather, 512 00:25:55,763 --> 00:25:58,849 coded language that speaks to what these clubs value. 513 00:25:59,767 --> 00:26:01,852 CICCONE: You could put all the fluff around the Harleys and all that, 514 00:26:01,852 --> 00:26:04,605 but it's a gang, we all know what comes with that. 515 00:26:05,898 --> 00:26:09,610 Violence, drug trafficking, firearms trafficking, assaults, 516 00:26:10,277 --> 00:26:12,237 murders, shootings. 517 00:26:12,237 --> 00:26:14,323 And they operate just like a street gang. 518 00:26:14,323 --> 00:26:16,825 They just ride bikes. 519 00:26:21,205 --> 00:26:24,208 We got some information that a group of Mongols 520 00:26:24,208 --> 00:26:26,752 is at a restaurant over here in Monrovia. 521 00:26:27,544 --> 00:26:30,297 So, we're just kind of go see what they're up to. 522 00:26:30,297 --> 00:26:32,299 And then we'll see if we can make contact with them. 523 00:26:32,758 --> 00:26:34,218 VAN ZELLER: So by contact, do you mean just, like, 524 00:26:34,218 --> 00:26:35,302 try to talk to a few of them? 525 00:26:35,302 --> 00:26:36,887 Like see what happens? 526 00:26:36,887 --> 00:26:38,680 CICCONE: Yeah, we'll just pull up 527 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,182 and kind of sit there with my windows down 528 00:26:40,182 --> 00:26:42,476 and see if I can stir up anything. 529 00:26:42,476 --> 00:26:44,436 VAN ZELLER: You just love stirring up (bleep). 530 00:26:44,436 --> 00:26:46,230 CICCONE: Oh, yeah. 531 00:26:49,316 --> 00:26:52,444 VAN ZELLER: Is it just this, this Mexican restaurant? 532 00:26:53,445 --> 00:26:54,488 Oh, yeah. 533 00:26:54,488 --> 00:26:56,573 CICCONE: Some bikes. 534 00:26:57,533 --> 00:27:00,202 So, there's definitely some members here. 535 00:27:00,202 --> 00:27:03,205 VAN ZELLER: So they leave their helmets on the, on their bikes. 536 00:27:03,205 --> 00:27:05,290 They're not afraid that somebody will steal them? 537 00:27:05,290 --> 00:27:07,084 CICCONE: No one's going to steal them. 538 00:27:07,084 --> 00:27:09,044 That will not happen. 539 00:27:09,878 --> 00:27:11,839 VAN ZELLER: With no planning and no back up, 540 00:27:11,839 --> 00:27:13,549 Agent Ciccone is about to roll up 541 00:27:13,549 --> 00:27:18,011 on one of the most feared motorcycle clubs on the planet. 542 00:27:18,011 --> 00:27:21,306 And the Mongols all know he's a federal agent. 543 00:27:22,391 --> 00:27:26,228 CICCONE: Yeah, this looks like the, uh, where they're at. 544 00:27:26,228 --> 00:27:29,356 VAN ZELLER: Oh my God. 545 00:27:29,857 --> 00:27:31,942 Is this a good idea? 546 00:27:35,487 --> 00:27:38,073 CICCONE: What's going on? 547 00:27:44,454 --> 00:27:48,959 VAN ZELLER: The Mongol's motto is "Respect few, fear none." 548 00:27:50,878 --> 00:27:52,754 The ATF has called them the most violent 549 00:27:52,754 --> 00:27:55,340 motorcycle club in the country. 550 00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:59,052 And yet, Agent John Ciccone has decided it's a good idea 551 00:27:59,052 --> 00:28:00,721 to crash their post‐funeral lunch. 552 00:28:01,305 --> 00:28:02,890 CICCONE: What's going on? 553 00:28:07,019 --> 00:28:08,061 CICCONE: Sure, man. 554 00:28:08,061 --> 00:28:09,938 LITTLE DAVE: Hold on. 555 00:28:09,938 --> 00:28:12,524 CICCONE: I thought that was you, I'm, like, I had to do a double take, man. 556 00:28:13,025 --> 00:28:16,111 VAN ZELLER: When Agent Ciccone invited me along for this ride, 557 00:28:16,111 --> 00:28:19,740 I didn't anticipate a friendly chat with the infamous Mongols. 558 00:28:20,824 --> 00:28:22,326 CICCONE: What's happening, dude? 559 00:28:22,326 --> 00:28:24,036 LITTLE DAVE: Yeah, I didn't know you were with the wife? 560 00:28:24,036 --> 00:28:25,454 CICCONE: Not this time, man. 561 00:28:25,454 --> 00:28:27,205 LITTLE DAVE: Oh, damn. What are you guys filming? 562 00:28:27,205 --> 00:28:28,415 CICCONE: What's up, man? 563 00:28:28,415 --> 00:28:29,917 VAN ZELLER: And this isn't just any Mongol, 564 00:28:29,917 --> 00:28:31,335 it's one of the top leaders of the club. 565 00:28:31,335 --> 00:28:33,003 CICCONE: How did the funeral go? 566 00:28:33,003 --> 00:28:34,671 You guys make your run and all that? 567 00:28:34,671 --> 00:28:36,006 LITTLE DAVE: Yeah. CICCONE: How was it? 568 00:28:36,006 --> 00:28:37,424 LITTLE DAVE: We've seen you on the freeway. 569 00:28:37,424 --> 00:28:38,967 CICCONE: I was on the freeway, man. 570 00:28:38,967 --> 00:28:40,427 LITTLE DAVE: Yeah. 571 00:28:40,427 --> 00:28:41,803 CICCONE: Just stay off the freeways next weekend, man, 572 00:28:41,803 --> 00:28:43,931 because, because Castiglione is getting buried in, 573 00:28:43,931 --> 00:28:45,515 the Hells Angels in San Diego. 574 00:28:45,515 --> 00:28:47,017 LITTLE DAVE: Oh, yeah. 575 00:28:47,017 --> 00:28:48,185 CICCONE: He was like a 50 year member, man. 576 00:28:48,185 --> 00:28:49,478 LITTLE DAVE: Oh (bleep). CICCONE: So. 577 00:28:49,478 --> 00:28:50,938 MAN: Next weekend? CICCONE: Next weekend. 578 00:28:50,938 --> 00:28:52,397 LITTLE DAVE: I heard they buried three other dudes, like, 579 00:28:52,397 --> 00:28:53,523 in the last month. 580 00:28:53,523 --> 00:28:54,441 I don't know why, but that's what I hear. 581 00:28:54,441 --> 00:28:55,525 That's the real. 582 00:28:55,525 --> 00:28:57,361 CICCONE: No comment, man. 583 00:28:57,361 --> 00:28:59,071 LITTLE DAVE: Yeah, 3‐0. CICCONE: No comment, man. LITTLE DAVE: 3‐0. 584 00:28:59,071 --> 00:29:00,238 The score's 3‐0. 585 00:29:00,238 --> 00:29:02,032 CICCONE: No comment, man. 586 00:29:02,324 --> 00:29:04,493 VAN ZELLER: Did you catch that score line? 587 00:29:04,493 --> 00:29:06,662 3‐0. 588 00:29:06,662 --> 00:29:09,373 Presumably meaning three Hells Angels dead, 589 00:29:09,373 --> 00:29:10,958 zero Mongols killed. 590 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,585 REPORTER: Investigators say multiple people 591 00:29:13,585 --> 00:29:15,671 riding motorcycles were involved in a shooting. 592 00:29:16,088 --> 00:29:18,215 REPORTER 2: Police are saying a person was stabbed to death. 593 00:29:18,215 --> 00:29:20,676 REPORTER 3: Initial details painted the fatal confrontation 594 00:29:20,676 --> 00:29:23,971 between the rival gangs is an argument that escalated. 595 00:29:25,555 --> 00:29:27,432 CICCONE: All right. I'll let you guys go, man. 596 00:29:27,432 --> 00:29:29,393 VAN ZELLER: Wait, wait, wait. Can I ask a question since we're at this? 597 00:29:29,393 --> 00:29:30,560 So we're with National Geographic. 598 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,145 MAN: Oh, I thought that was your wife! 599 00:29:32,145 --> 00:29:33,855 CICCONE: That's the National Geographic, man. 600 00:29:33,855 --> 00:29:35,565 CICCONE: You don't see all this camera. 601 00:29:35,565 --> 00:29:37,067 LITTLE DAVE: Dude, I watch everything. 602 00:29:37,067 --> 00:29:38,485 VAN ZELLER: Can, can we come hang out with you guys one day? 603 00:29:38,485 --> 00:29:39,736 LITTLE DAVE: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 604 00:29:39,736 --> 00:29:41,238 VAN ZELLER: He's saying no. He's saying yes. 605 00:29:41,238 --> 00:29:42,739 I'm Mariana, by the way. 606 00:29:42,739 --> 00:29:44,741 Hi, how are you? So how do I contact you? 607 00:29:44,741 --> 00:29:46,576 LITTLE DAVE: Oh, my number. Take down my number. 608 00:29:46,576 --> 00:29:47,995 CICCONE: Geez. 609 00:29:47,995 --> 00:29:49,621 LITTLE DAVE: (bleep). Don't record the number. 610 00:29:49,621 --> 00:29:51,206 VAN ZELLER: So I'm Mariana. I'll call you. 611 00:29:51,206 --> 00:29:52,666 LITTLE DAVE: All right. Cool. 612 00:29:52,666 --> 00:29:53,792 VAN ZELLER: And then I'm hoping we can hang out with you. 613 00:29:53,792 --> 00:29:54,960 LITTLE DAVE: We'll talk, we'll talk, yeah, 614 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,003 I can't promise anything, but we'll talk. 615 00:29:56,003 --> 00:29:57,379 VAN ZELLER: Okay. CICCONE: Later. 616 00:29:57,379 --> 00:29:59,172 VAN ZELLER:Thanks, guys. Have a margarita for us. 617 00:29:59,172 --> 00:30:01,299 Oh, my God. That was insane. 618 00:30:01,299 --> 00:30:02,884 CICCONE: There you go, man. 619 00:30:02,884 --> 00:30:04,136 See? 620 00:30:04,136 --> 00:30:05,512 What kind of hookup you guys got here today? 621 00:30:05,512 --> 00:30:06,805 VAN ZELLER: But that was definitely (bleep). 622 00:30:06,805 --> 00:30:08,348 CICCONE: Yeah, the guy in the white shirt. 623 00:30:08,348 --> 00:30:09,850 VAN ZELLER: And he immediately obviously knew who you were. 624 00:30:09,850 --> 00:30:11,893 And he jumped off his chair and came. 625 00:30:11,893 --> 00:30:13,687 CICCONE: You have to understand that we have 626 00:30:13,687 --> 00:30:15,564 an open communication, him and I. 627 00:30:15,564 --> 00:30:17,399 It's a respect thing. 628 00:30:17,399 --> 00:30:19,443 That's all I can really explain it. 629 00:30:20,527 --> 00:30:22,946 I've worked these guys since '97. 630 00:30:22,946 --> 00:30:27,242 We don't harass them or disrespect them, but we, 631 00:30:27,242 --> 00:30:30,078 we work them and we put the criminals in jail. 632 00:30:30,537 --> 00:30:32,414 Especially with (bleep), he's the national president, 633 00:30:32,414 --> 00:30:33,707 you know, everything is under his watch. 634 00:30:33,707 --> 00:30:35,709 He doesn't want to go to prison. 635 00:30:35,709 --> 00:30:37,836 But then there's times when he comes more involved 636 00:30:37,836 --> 00:30:39,880 with being the national president as, you know, 637 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,548 giving out those awards and those patches 638 00:30:41,548 --> 00:30:42,966 when people do stuff. 639 00:30:42,966 --> 00:30:44,134 VAN ZELLER: Uh‐hmm. 640 00:30:44,134 --> 00:30:45,594 CICCONE: You know, he's behind that. 641 00:30:45,594 --> 00:30:47,846 VAN ZELLER: So there's absolutely no doubt in your mind 642 00:30:47,846 --> 00:30:49,389 that they perform illegal activities, 643 00:30:49,389 --> 00:30:50,515 that they are criminals? 644 00:30:50,515 --> 00:30:52,142 CICCONE: Oh, yeah. It's who they are. 645 00:30:52,142 --> 00:30:54,478 Not all of them commit crimes every day 646 00:30:54,478 --> 00:30:56,104 or have criminal histories, 647 00:30:56,104 --> 00:31:00,442 but they have protocols that everybody has to adhere to. 648 00:31:01,151 --> 00:31:04,196 You're forced into their criminal element 649 00:31:04,196 --> 00:31:05,864 when you become a member. 650 00:31:06,490 --> 00:31:08,450 And all they have to do is just act right 651 00:31:08,450 --> 00:31:10,952 and we would leave them alone, you know. 652 00:31:10,952 --> 00:31:12,954 But as long as they're going to keep shooting and killing people, 653 00:31:12,954 --> 00:31:14,998 then we're going to be around. 654 00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:19,878 VAN ZELLER: I want to know what role these leaders actually play. 655 00:31:19,878 --> 00:31:23,173 And if these clubs are criminal enterprises hiding in plain sight, 656 00:31:23,673 --> 00:31:25,675 then what's bringing in the money. 657 00:31:25,675 --> 00:31:28,178 KOZLOWSKI: I would say the drugs make the most money for them. 658 00:31:28,178 --> 00:31:30,972 VAN ZELLER: Koz tells me something that I didn't know before, 659 00:31:30,972 --> 00:31:34,601 that the drugs they famously transport are supplied 660 00:31:34,601 --> 00:31:37,104 and controlled by the Mexican cartels. 661 00:31:38,438 --> 00:31:41,858 So if the cartels have such a network here in the US already established, 662 00:31:41,858 --> 00:31:45,237 why work with the clubs to transport those drugs? 663 00:31:45,237 --> 00:31:46,571 What's in it for them? 664 00:31:47,072 --> 00:31:48,740 KOZLOWSKI: I think it's just going to come down 665 00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:50,158 to pure business. 666 00:31:50,158 --> 00:31:52,869 If you have a gang that can move X amount of weight 667 00:31:52,869 --> 00:31:54,955 and you have a trusted member 668 00:31:54,955 --> 00:31:57,916 who can deliver from that connection, 669 00:31:59,209 --> 00:32:01,711 you now have a whole another network of people 670 00:32:01,711 --> 00:32:03,296 to distribute to. 671 00:32:03,296 --> 00:32:04,589 You expand that territory. 672 00:32:04,589 --> 00:32:06,550 You've reached another group 673 00:32:06,550 --> 00:32:09,219 that has that crossover connection with cartel types. 674 00:32:09,469 --> 00:32:10,971 VAN ZELLER: Uh‐hmm. 675 00:32:12,931 --> 00:32:15,392 This isn't about a few bad apples. 676 00:32:15,392 --> 00:32:18,019 This is pure business. 677 00:32:18,019 --> 00:32:20,438 To see the criminal side of these One Percenters, 678 00:32:20,438 --> 00:32:22,399 I've got to follow the money. 679 00:32:23,650 --> 00:32:25,527 Hi. How are you doing? 680 00:32:28,655 --> 00:32:30,615 VAN ZELLER: And find the connection between the clubs 681 00:32:30,615 --> 00:32:32,617 and the cartels. 682 00:32:32,617 --> 00:32:34,411 And what about, is there, do you have any connections outside of California? 683 00:32:37,789 --> 00:32:40,000 VAN ZELLER: Over the years, I've made underworld contacts. 684 00:32:43,461 --> 00:32:44,754 VAN ZELLER: On both sides of the border. 685 00:32:51,011 --> 00:32:52,137 VAN ZELLER: I've networked. 686 00:32:55,140 --> 00:32:56,183 VAN ZELLER: I've built trust. 687 00:33:00,145 --> 00:33:04,107 VAN ZELLER: And in moments like this, I know who can open doors. 688 00:33:14,784 --> 00:33:16,620 VAN ZELLER: We just got the call? 689 00:33:16,620 --> 00:33:18,830 FIXER (over phone): Yes, he finally, uh, told us where to meet. 690 00:33:18,830 --> 00:33:20,457 It's a place where they feel safe. 691 00:33:20,457 --> 00:33:23,210 It'll be a place where we can sit and talk and negotiate. 692 00:33:25,003 --> 00:33:27,714 They know your name, they're expecting your call. 693 00:33:27,714 --> 00:33:31,801 They'll send a pin of where, uh, we're supposed to meet them 694 00:33:32,802 --> 00:33:34,721 VAN ZELLER: Finally, after weeks of hustling, 695 00:33:34,721 --> 00:33:38,225 a cartel contact agrees to connect me to a One Percenter 696 00:33:38,225 --> 00:33:39,768 who transports narcotics. 697 00:33:42,437 --> 00:33:44,940 Let's make sure we're not being followed. 698 00:33:48,109 --> 00:33:49,527 Okay. I'd say cameras down, guys. 699 00:33:49,527 --> 00:33:51,071 Down on cameras. 700 00:33:51,071 --> 00:33:54,282 It's more important than that we not spook them right now then. 701 00:33:55,951 --> 00:33:57,869 FIXER (over phone): There's a bit of a complication. 702 00:33:57,869 --> 00:34:00,497 They don't want us to bring our cars. 703 00:34:00,747 --> 00:34:02,874 They want us to jump into their cars. 704 00:34:04,501 --> 00:34:06,044 VAN ZELLER: Yeah. I don't think that's a good idea at all. 705 00:34:06,044 --> 00:34:08,004 I don't, I don't feel comfortable jumping in the car 706 00:34:08,004 --> 00:34:09,506 with somebody that we don't know 707 00:34:09,506 --> 00:34:11,883 and where they're taking us and all that. 708 00:34:11,883 --> 00:34:13,969 I don't think that's a good idea. 709 00:34:17,931 --> 00:34:20,016 They should be around here somewhere. 710 00:34:20,016 --> 00:34:22,978 MAN: If you get any updates, Rob, call... 711 00:34:22,978 --> 00:34:24,562 VAN ZELLER: Uh, can we not talk on the, 712 00:34:24,562 --> 00:34:26,398 can we not put the walkie‐talkies up 713 00:34:26,398 --> 00:34:28,149 when we're talking, guys. 714 00:34:28,149 --> 00:34:30,402 It's, like, if you want to scream undercover cops, 715 00:34:30,402 --> 00:34:32,237 that's it. 716 00:34:33,363 --> 00:34:35,365 I'm obviously paranoid at this point. 717 00:34:39,911 --> 00:34:41,705 Is this them? 718 00:34:43,331 --> 00:34:45,125 Okay, so that's them, guys. 719 00:34:45,125 --> 00:34:47,002 Leave the car running. 720 00:34:47,002 --> 00:34:48,336 Wish me luck. 721 00:34:59,347 --> 00:35:01,474 Hi. How are you doing? Mariana. 722 00:35:09,441 --> 00:35:11,776 DRIVER: Okay, I'm going to need you to put all the phones in the bag, 723 00:35:11,776 --> 00:35:13,278 turn them off, and leave them on the car. 724 00:35:13,278 --> 00:35:14,696 VAN ZELLER: And leave them in the other car? 725 00:35:14,696 --> 00:35:15,947 DRIVER: Yes. 726 00:35:15,947 --> 00:35:16,990 VAN ZELLER: So we can't take phones with us? 727 00:35:16,990 --> 00:35:18,116 DRIVER: No. 728 00:35:18,116 --> 00:35:19,159 VAN ZELLER: Can I take mine at least? 729 00:35:19,159 --> 00:35:20,452 DRIVER: No. 730 00:35:20,452 --> 00:35:22,829 VAN ZELLER: I can shut it off? DRIVER: Ah, no. 731 00:35:27,334 --> 00:35:29,210 VAN ZELLER: So a little bit of a problem is that they don't want 732 00:35:29,210 --> 00:35:31,421 any of us to take our phones. 733 00:35:31,838 --> 00:35:34,424 So they've asked that we keep our phones here, 734 00:35:34,424 --> 00:35:36,134 which makes me a little nervous. 735 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,471 That's not a situation like to be in at all. 736 00:35:39,471 --> 00:35:40,805 Everybody's phones. 737 00:35:40,805 --> 00:35:42,724 Are you okay? 738 00:35:43,350 --> 00:35:45,393 Okay. Thanks, guys. 739 00:35:49,689 --> 00:35:53,360 I'm in a car with a man I'm told is a cartel operative, 740 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,070 who I presumed is armed. 741 00:35:56,029 --> 00:35:58,114 He's taking me to meet a One Percenter, 742 00:35:58,114 --> 00:36:00,241 but I don't know where we're going 743 00:36:00,241 --> 00:36:03,036 or what we'll learn when we get there. 744 00:36:07,707 --> 00:36:10,377 So you're not actually the person we're going to be talking to, right? 745 00:36:10,377 --> 00:36:13,171 MAN: No. VAN ZELLER: Somebody else? MAN: Yeah. Someone else. 746 00:36:14,923 --> 00:36:17,175 Here's our buddy right here, to the right. 747 00:36:17,175 --> 00:36:19,260 VAN ZELLER: This is him? MAN: Yeah. VAN ZELLER: Oh, wow. 748 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,471 So he was waiting here for us the whole time? 749 00:36:21,471 --> 00:36:22,889 MAN: Yeah. 750 00:36:22,889 --> 00:36:25,225 VAN ZELLER: This is apparently the biker in question, 751 00:36:25,225 --> 00:36:27,602 and he's clearly been tracking our movements. 752 00:36:28,186 --> 00:36:30,230 So do you work with the cartel? 753 00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:32,023 MAN: I'm not going to say nothing. 754 00:36:32,023 --> 00:36:33,817 VAN ZELLER: Sorry, as a journalist, 755 00:36:33,817 --> 00:36:35,026 I start asking questions immediately. 756 00:36:35,026 --> 00:36:36,486 MAN: Yeah. 757 00:36:50,375 --> 00:36:52,001 VAN ZELLER: Oh, it's sort of a ranch house. Yeah? 758 00:36:52,001 --> 00:36:54,379 MAN: Yes. One of many. 759 00:36:55,839 --> 00:36:57,215 VAN ZELLER: One of many you guys have around here? 760 00:36:57,215 --> 00:36:59,259 MAN: Yes. 761 00:37:00,510 --> 00:37:02,470 VAN ZELLER: Good. Okay. 762 00:37:03,763 --> 00:37:06,975 We arrived at a normal‐looking ranch house on a bit of land. 763 00:37:06,975 --> 00:37:09,227 As I get out of the car, 764 00:37:09,227 --> 00:37:12,105 I'm met by a masked man with a semi‐automatic rifle. 765 00:37:13,106 --> 00:37:15,275 He directs me around the back of the house 766 00:37:15,275 --> 00:37:17,235 and that's where I find our biker. 767 00:37:17,819 --> 00:37:20,780 For his safety, we're covering his face and changing his voice. 768 00:37:21,614 --> 00:37:22,824 PANCHO: All right. 769 00:37:22,824 --> 00:37:24,075 VAN ZELLER: Okay. 770 00:37:24,075 --> 00:37:25,535 Were you undecided about talking to us? 771 00:37:25,535 --> 00:37:26,911 PANCHO: I was, yeah. 772 00:37:26,911 --> 00:37:29,289 I don't really trust nobody. 773 00:37:29,289 --> 00:37:31,499 VAN ZELLER: Did you check our work or did you check me out 774 00:37:31,499 --> 00:37:32,667 to make sure that I wasn't police? 775 00:37:32,667 --> 00:37:33,835 PANCHO: Oh, yeah. 776 00:37:33,835 --> 00:37:35,420 All you guys. 777 00:37:35,420 --> 00:37:37,338 VAN ZELLER: You did, all of us? PANCHO: Yes. There's a network. 778 00:37:37,338 --> 00:37:39,507 VAN ZELLER: Of bikers? PANCHO: Yes. 779 00:37:39,507 --> 00:37:43,386 Trust me, any information that we need from anybody is there. 780 00:37:44,429 --> 00:37:46,556 VAN ZELLER: Can I ask you what club you belong to? 781 00:37:46,556 --> 00:37:49,225 PANCHO: You could ask me all day, but I'm not going to say. 782 00:37:50,268 --> 00:37:53,062 VAN ZELLER: But it's, would you say that it's a well‐known one? 783 00:37:53,062 --> 00:37:55,356 PANCHO: Oh, yeah. It's a well‐known one. Yeah. 784 00:37:55,356 --> 00:37:58,026 VAN ZELLER: I, I was told that you were part of the (bleep)? 785 00:37:58,026 --> 00:37:59,861 PANCHO: Again, I don't want to say. 786 00:37:59,861 --> 00:38:01,446 You know, I can't expose myself 787 00:38:01,446 --> 00:38:04,115 because this is a serious business. 788 00:38:04,991 --> 00:38:06,743 VAN ZELLER: What would happen if they found out 789 00:38:06,743 --> 00:38:08,870 that you were talking to me? 790 00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:11,122 PANCHO: I would probably get killed. 791 00:38:11,873 --> 00:38:14,793 All these (bleep), they, they'll hurt you, 792 00:38:14,793 --> 00:38:16,503 they'll hurt you when they have to. 793 00:38:17,128 --> 00:38:18,838 VAN ZELLER: They or you? 794 00:38:18,838 --> 00:38:20,840 PANCHO: Everybody. 795 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,884 Every last one of them. 796 00:38:22,884 --> 00:38:24,886 VAN ZELLER: Do you carry a gun with you? 797 00:38:24,886 --> 00:38:26,679 PANCHO: All the time. 798 00:38:26,679 --> 00:38:28,723 VAN ZELLER: Do you have it right now? 799 00:38:29,974 --> 00:38:34,437 So you still don't trust me? 800 00:38:35,438 --> 00:38:37,148 PANCHO: I don't trust nobody. 801 00:38:37,148 --> 00:38:38,525 VAN ZELLER: Why did you agree to do this interview? 802 00:38:38,525 --> 00:38:40,151 And I'm going give you the gun back. 803 00:38:40,151 --> 00:38:42,862 PANCHO: 'Cause I don't give a (bleep) about nothing. 804 00:38:44,072 --> 00:38:45,406 VAN ZELLER: So what, what would you say then 805 00:38:45,406 --> 00:38:48,034 is the major business of the club that you're, 806 00:38:48,034 --> 00:38:49,786 that you belong to? 807 00:38:49,786 --> 00:38:51,621 PANCHO: Narcotics. 808 00:38:51,621 --> 00:38:54,082 VAN ZELLER: Finally, after months of trying, 809 00:38:54,082 --> 00:38:56,334 I find a biker who's willing to talk about 810 00:38:56,334 --> 00:38:58,378 what no one other One Percenter would, 811 00:38:59,128 --> 00:39:02,507 the criminal side of motorcycle clubs. 812 00:39:11,683 --> 00:39:14,394 ♪ ♪ 813 00:39:14,394 --> 00:39:16,187 VAN ZELLER: What, what drugs are we talking about? 814 00:39:16,187 --> 00:39:21,234 PANCHO: Oh, it's everything from weed, cocaine, glass, heroin. 815 00:39:22,026 --> 00:39:24,487 You name it, we do it all. 816 00:39:25,488 --> 00:39:29,033 There's a bunch of, bunch of guys that just love to ride 817 00:39:29,033 --> 00:39:31,202 and want to be part of the club. 818 00:39:31,202 --> 00:39:35,456 And there's others like myself that love to get money 819 00:39:35,456 --> 00:39:37,250 and love that life. 820 00:39:37,250 --> 00:39:38,626 And that's what we do. 821 00:39:39,127 --> 00:39:41,045 VAN ZELLER: How much money do you make? 822 00:39:41,045 --> 00:39:42,881 PANCHO: A lot. 823 00:39:43,256 --> 00:39:46,134 VAN ZELLER: I push for details about their operation and how they 824 00:39:46,134 --> 00:39:50,555 work with the Mexican cartels. 825 00:39:50,555 --> 00:39:52,765 So, it's sort of a working farm here? 826 00:39:52,765 --> 00:39:56,185 DAMIEN: Yes. This is where we started. 827 00:39:59,814 --> 00:40:02,734 VAN ZELLER: The property is both a marijuana grow and a stash house 828 00:40:02,734 --> 00:40:05,028 for whatever else might pass through. 829 00:40:06,362 --> 00:40:09,574 This man oversees the operation for his cartel bosses, 830 00:40:09,574 --> 00:40:11,117 south of the border. 831 00:40:11,492 --> 00:40:13,870 These are getting ready to be harvested? 832 00:40:13,870 --> 00:40:17,916 DAMIEN: Yes. Three more weeks. VAN ZELLER: Three more weeks? DAMIEN: Yes. 833 00:40:19,167 --> 00:40:20,835 VAN ZELLER: So, you work with these guys a lot? 834 00:40:20,835 --> 00:40:22,462 PANCHO: I do, yeah. 835 00:40:22,462 --> 00:40:24,464 Myself and my people. 836 00:40:25,173 --> 00:40:27,926 VAN ZELLER: They do the production side and you guys do the transporting? 837 00:40:27,926 --> 00:40:29,719 PANCHO: Yeah. 838 00:40:32,263 --> 00:40:34,557 DAMIEN: This is where we pack it, where we trim it, 839 00:40:37,310 --> 00:40:38,770 where we weigh it. 840 00:40:38,770 --> 00:40:40,730 VAN ZELLER: Wow, the smell is super, super strong here. 841 00:40:40,730 --> 00:40:42,523 So this is the flower that's been harvested already? 842 00:40:42,523 --> 00:40:45,485 DAMIEN: Correct. VAN ZELLER: Trimmed? DAMIEN: Yes. 843 00:40:46,110 --> 00:40:49,030 VAN ZELLER: Ooh, it smells good. 844 00:40:49,822 --> 00:40:51,532 I don't think most people know that you guys 845 00:40:51,532 --> 00:40:53,117 are running an operation like this. 846 00:40:53,117 --> 00:40:55,787 Just right here, out in Southern California. 847 00:40:55,787 --> 00:40:57,872 DAMIEN: This is just us, but there's a lot more. 848 00:41:01,209 --> 00:41:04,420 PANCHO: I've got a network of guys that get the merchandise 849 00:41:04,420 --> 00:41:09,008 from these gentlemen and we distribute it throughout the US. 850 00:41:11,177 --> 00:41:13,596 VAN ZELLER: Where do these drugs go to usually? 851 00:41:13,596 --> 00:41:15,306 DAMIEN: Most of it goes on the street. 852 00:41:15,306 --> 00:41:17,600 A lot of it goes to the different states. 853 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,602 The further, the more expensive it is. 854 00:41:20,770 --> 00:41:22,939 PANCHO: There's plugs everywhere. 855 00:41:24,357 --> 00:41:26,734 VAN ZELLER: Why do you guys like to work with the bikers? 856 00:41:26,734 --> 00:41:28,903 DAMIEN: Like, they're not afraid of the cops, you know? 857 00:41:28,903 --> 00:41:31,155 They're ruthless pretty much. 858 00:41:31,572 --> 00:41:33,908 VAN ZELLER: Yes, even the Mexican cartels 859 00:41:33,908 --> 00:41:36,577 think One Percenters are ruthless. 860 00:41:36,577 --> 00:41:39,122 Does the club leaders know that you do this 861 00:41:39,122 --> 00:41:40,498 and that the members of the club do this? 862 00:41:40,498 --> 00:41:41,708 PANCHO: Yes. 863 00:41:41,708 --> 00:41:42,750 VAN ZELLER: Do they make a cut out of it? 864 00:41:42,750 --> 00:41:44,043 PANCHO: Of course, yeah. 865 00:41:44,043 --> 00:41:45,211 VAN ZELLER: Do they make good money? 866 00:41:45,211 --> 00:41:47,547 PANCHO: Everybody eats. 867 00:41:48,214 --> 00:41:51,259 There's shot callers and there's people underneath. 868 00:41:51,843 --> 00:41:55,471 They move other people, and so on, and so on. 869 00:41:56,597 --> 00:41:59,183 That's how you take care of your family and live the good life. 870 00:42:00,059 --> 00:42:03,104 Even if it's in this, doing this dirty (bleep). 871 00:42:05,815 --> 00:42:07,608 VAN ZELLER: It does make sense, 872 00:42:07,608 --> 00:42:10,570 what better business partners for Mexican narco traffickers 873 00:42:10,570 --> 00:42:14,907 than loyal, tight‐lipped, road trip‐loving American outlaws 874 00:42:16,409 --> 00:42:19,245 with local chapters crisscrossing a country 875 00:42:19,245 --> 00:42:24,167 that spends nearly $150 billion a year on illegal drugs? 876 00:42:25,752 --> 00:42:27,587 (gunshots) 877 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,923 I'm not saying every One Percenter is involved, 878 00:42:30,923 --> 00:42:33,468 but wherever serious cash is being made, 879 00:42:33,468 --> 00:42:35,470 serious trouble follows. 880 00:42:35,928 --> 00:42:37,972 Why is there so much hatred between clubs? 881 00:42:37,972 --> 00:42:40,975 PANCHO: It's, it goes deep. It goes deep. 882 00:42:40,975 --> 00:42:43,102 VAN ZELLER: Is it a territory thing? 883 00:42:43,102 --> 00:42:45,605 I mean, the fact that you're, assuming that you're controlling 884 00:42:45,605 --> 00:42:47,815 the trafficking happening in this area. 885 00:42:47,815 --> 00:42:49,942 PANCHO: It's all about territory. 886 00:42:49,942 --> 00:42:51,819 That's all it is. 887 00:42:51,819 --> 00:42:54,030 You got to stick with your brothers. 888 00:42:54,322 --> 00:42:56,449 And if they say, "Let's go to war," 889 00:42:56,449 --> 00:42:58,659 we're going to go to war. 890 00:42:59,035 --> 00:43:00,661 VAN ZELLER: To go to war, 891 00:43:00,661 --> 00:43:01,954 meaning you'd have to kill other people, you would do that? 892 00:43:01,954 --> 00:43:04,582 PANCHO: Whatever it takes. 893 00:43:10,546 --> 00:43:12,590 KOZLOWSKI: A lot of organizations in the criminal world 894 00:43:12,590 --> 00:43:16,010 don't advertise in the open who they are. 895 00:43:16,761 --> 00:43:18,596 Motorcycle gangs do. 896 00:43:18,596 --> 00:43:23,101 Even a part of me felt empowered when I got fully patched. 897 00:43:23,101 --> 00:43:26,771 You get that sense that you have power. 898 00:43:29,524 --> 00:43:33,569 VAN ZELLER: Most outlaws I've met live in the shadows, 899 00:43:33,569 --> 00:43:35,738 but not these guys. 900 00:43:36,781 --> 00:43:39,534 They're bold enough to tell us exactly who they are. 901 00:43:41,285 --> 00:43:44,497 VAN ZELLER: And dare us to do something about it. 902 00:43:45,373 --> 00:43:48,084 PANCHO: It's just dangerous (bleep). 903 00:43:48,084 --> 00:43:50,128 You could die at any given time. 904 00:43:50,128 --> 00:43:52,004 For any given reason. 905 00:43:52,839 --> 00:43:54,632 VAN ZELLER: Do you think you'll continue doing it? 906 00:43:54,632 --> 00:43:57,593 PANCHO: I've been doing it (bleep) my life. 907 00:43:57,593 --> 00:44:00,346 I'll do it until I'm laid in the casket. 908 00:44:01,848 --> 00:44:06,269 (engines revving) 909 00:44:06,644 --> 00:44:08,271 Captioned by Cotter Media Group.