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FORMERLY IN THE DROPOUT

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This is Erika Cheung
She starts today.

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Welcome to Theranos.

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Here.
Cover the camera on your computer with it.

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Why?

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So they don't see you.

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If Ian had testified,
would have done

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Theranos patents invalid.

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I need one

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with first-hand knowledge.

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<i>They must run all tests
on Siemens' appliances</i>

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<i>to circumvent the rules.</i>

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Would she let that happen?

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She is the director.
She knows what's going on.

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Do you run the tests
for the approval of Edison

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on Siemens appliances?

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You have no idea
what you are talking about.

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do you think
that Theranos is lying to the authorities?

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Yes, and therefore you must
start asking questions.

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No, I don't want to.

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I am ready for your questions.

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How is Theranos defrauding Walgreens?

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<i>Yes, hello.</i>

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John Carrey?
This is Tyler Schultz.

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<i>You founded the company 12 years ago.
Correct?</i>

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<i>Tell them how old you were.</i>

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<i>I was 19</i>

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So...

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No worries about the future,
we are in good hands.

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Miss Holmes!

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When I look back
on the vision of this excellent young woman,

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I think about
how on earth she as a 19 year old

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was able to convince some of
the leading professors in America...

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not to mention her parents
to invest all her school money

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by simply saying:
"I have an idea. I'm starting a company."

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HEROES

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Theranos' report on the patient,
which we received

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showed an abnormally high TSH figure.

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But the patient was already taking medicine
against overactive thyroid gland.

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Precise.
And Theranos' results

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indicated,
that the medicine did not work.

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Was Theranos right?

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The patient was pregnant.
By increasing the dose

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would the hormone level
in the thyroid gland become so high,

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that her pregnancy would be at risk.

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Do you want to be cited for it?

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You can swear at that.

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I have found a patient
who spent Thanksgiving in the ER,

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because Theranos' test
had erroneously shown

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a stroke.

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It cost thousands of dollars.
I have spoken to a cancer patient,

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who took a Theranos test and thought
she had cancer again

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You best!

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I have quotes from three doctors.
I have emails from Mark Roessler.

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Did he send them?

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No, not yet. But he will soon.
From what he says,

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They are quite burdensome.
I have Gardner

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and Gibbons for citation
and Tyler Shultz for background.

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Wait a moment.
Tyler who?

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The one who was
in the lab with Erika Cheung.

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He is George Shultz's grandson.

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By Shultz,
that his grandson is talking to us?

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No, then.
I have to make sure he doesn't.

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Hell yes.

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It smells good.

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- Can I have the biscuits?
- No.

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So we have to be thankful for,
that Elizabeth Holmes

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- did not rule the Soviet Union in the 80s.
- Yes.

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So you know
what I want to ask now.

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She won't talk to me, Judith.

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I am the only journalist in the United States
she does not give interviews.

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It doesn't matter. We have to

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could say that we have done everything
for a response from Theranos.

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- I have sent a list of questions.
- Okay.

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I'm a little worried about
that they will go after my sources.

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They have David Boies as their lawyer.

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Yeah, fuck it.
No matter what they throw at us,

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can we handle it.

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But call Mark Roessler and
make him rush those emails.

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FILE TRANSFER
COPIES 762 FILES TO USB DRIVE

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UNAUTHORIZED DOWNLOAD
SECURITY ALARM

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The Wall Street Journal<i>is on</i>
<i>an article about Theranos,</i>

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and i don't think
that there will be positive publicity.

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Here are some questions,
which they have sent

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and would like you to answer…

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as soon as possible...

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I've been trying to get hold of you.

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Mark is right
downloaded hundreds of emails

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to his personal hard drive
and is now on his way out of the house.

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- Mark?
- Yes.

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Where is Mark? Field!

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What will he do to him?
Sunny!

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Field!

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Mark, I'm suing the ass
out of your pants. Delete those emails.

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We have a non-disclosure agreement, Mark!

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- These questions are ridiculous.
- And sloppy.

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Yes, he is not skilled. I tried
to read his article on health insurance

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the other night. It was so bad.

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He should be more careful.

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These questions make it clear that
who his sources are.

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you know
who are his sources?

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- Yes, of course.
- We think so.

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We've narrowed it down.
Thank you, Peter.

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He has seen Rochelle Gibbons.

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Which we should sue for defamation.

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And some doctors and patients in Arizona,

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which violates
doctor-patient confidentiality.

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And the questions
about the conditions in the Normandy laboratory

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can only come from Erika.

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Yes, Erika Cheung,
Tyler Shultz, Mark Roessler.

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As everyone has
signed confidentiality agreements.

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Just.
And they are all young and disaffected.

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- Very dissatisfied.
- Everyone left us after disagreements.

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They expect
we answer these questions

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I, I, I...
This with that

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we have to answer some liars?
It's ridiculous.

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And all the legal aspects we have to…

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should we have a handle on now.

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Extremely serious legal consequences.

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Tyler has kind of violated
and shared our trade secrets.

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- Literally.
- Disclosing that kind of thing is not okay.

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We all sue.

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All?

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- We'll smash that piece of shit.
- Yes.

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Well, but I respect
integrity of journalism.

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I am a lawyer for the <i>New York Times.</i>

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But there are tools and tactics,
we can try to use

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to keep negative stories down.

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We can remind them

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the consequences of
breach their confidentiality agreements.

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Linda helps with that.

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And then we can doubt their credibility.

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“If they break
their confidentiality agreements,

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How then can we trust them?"

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Good, yes. Well.

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Hello my tiger...

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are you at home
I'm back.

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I have to tell you something.

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Come find me.

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The house is too big. I can't.

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Here.

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I met Rupert Murdoch last night.
For that.

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Excuse me.

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You started.

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Rupert Murdoch has
invited me out to his farm tonight.

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You best,
i am so happy

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I'm going to Arizona tomorrow
to talk to the doctors.

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I don't care
whether Boies has a strategy.

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I want to talk to them face to face.

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End this slander.
Spend resources on it,

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cut the monster's legs one by one.
We can turn it around.

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I'm not here to scare you.

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I'm just asking you…

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whether your medical practice is dependent
of online reviews?

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It would harm your practice,
if the patients knew

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that you have shared confidential information
with a journalist.

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Not?

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But if you sign that document,

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will all that disappear.

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I always meant.
that we are here on Earth

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to make a difference in the world.

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So when I found out what I
felt that I was born to make..

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which is to help and try
to contribute to solving a problem

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- Hello.
<i>- I'm being shadowed, John.</i>

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Everywhere I go
someone watching me.

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Who is that?

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I don't know.
It is not free imagination.

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My house is not safe.
I'm in my car.

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I use the internet in my car.

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On a human level there is not
much else that matters.

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<i>Access to more information
will save lives?</i>

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<i>Yes, when...
When trying to save lives...</i>

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When it comes to someone,
when you love, you will do anything.

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<i>- I get a call...</i>
- Mark, Mark.

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by Sunny and their fucking lawyers.

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- They threaten me...
- I said

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- they would go after you.
<i>- ...with...</i>

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<i>...enormous compensation claims.</i>

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Is the scientific in it,
you do, ever been challenged?

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I hired a lawyer. A good lawyer.
But he discovered they have David Boies

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on their side,
and then he said to me,

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that I must immediately delete those e-mails.

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Don't delete those emails, Mark.
What you are doing is too important.

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I don't know.
I don't know if I can do this.

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Is there anyone
who have asked questions and said, for example,

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why doesn't she show us the whole thing
so we could feel more secure

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by the results.

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- The big pharmaceutical companies, yes.
- Let me understand,

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what they ask you.
and what is your answer to them?

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- I know it's scary.
- They can ruin me.

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But they didn't want to make it scary,
if they weren't scared themselves.

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And they are afraid because they know
that they are wrong and you are right.

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<i>- Your efforts will save lives.</i>
- Yes, yes, yes.

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Mark, you do this
to save human life.

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Yes, yes, yes.
You are right.

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<i>Do you send those e-mails?</i>

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Yes, yes.

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mark...

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<i>Mark?</i>

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ARE YOU SURE
YOU WANT TO DELETE ALL EMAILS?

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Field?

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<i>Sorry, John. I'm sorry.</i>

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Roessler's email is gone.
Most of the doctors from Arizona are gone.

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If they can persuade Tyler,
then I have no history at all.

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Then you must...

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talk on the phone with Tyler.

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I tried calling Tyler,
he doesn't take it.

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Then try again.

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I have tried again.

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Have you tried sending him?
a message, an email or flowers?

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I have tried everything.

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Then you just have to wait.

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Wait?

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Fat. Then I just wait.
That is a great help, Judith. Many thanks!

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Excuse me.

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- It's okay.
- Sorry.

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It's really taking a toll on me.

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I can see that.

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Just don't lose Tyler.

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Grandpa, what's going on?

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i don't know
why Elizabeth thinks…

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that it is me who has
talked to some journalist.

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Did you, Tyler?

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Because if you have
are you at risk of being sued.

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Just say it.
We are related to each other.

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Have you spoken to the journalist?

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No.

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- No.
- That's good.

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So therefore...

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you just have to sign
a new confidentiality agreement.

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What?

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Linda?

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Is anyone here?

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George, is there anyone upstairs?

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A lawyer from Theranos came along
the documents that you must sign.

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We were supposed to talk
you didn't say

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- I had to sign something.
- Linda?

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Linda?

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Okay, okay.

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This matter is more urgent,
than you understand.

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Hi Tyler. I have some documents here,
which you have to sign.

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Okay, this one is a police order.

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A police order?
Don't you think so?

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No, that's wrong.
Elizabeth said he should

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- sign a confidentiality agreement.
- It's a letter from Theranos,

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where it says that they mean
that you have defaulted

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- your confidentiality obligations.
- That's not what Elizabeth said,

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- that had to happen.
- They are preparing

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00:15:49,565 --> 00:15:51,543
- a lawsuit against you.
- Is it coming from Sunny?

250
00:15:51,567 --> 00:15:53,587
- I did not speak to the journalist.
- Do you want to write

251
00:15:53,611 --> 00:15:55,964
under a statement to that effect?
Do you want to put a name on

252
00:15:55,988 --> 00:15:57,716
those who have
spoke to the <i>Wall Street Journal?</i>

253
00:15:57,740 --> 00:15:59,508
My grandson doesn't gossip.

254
00:15:59,783 --> 00:16:01,760
George, let me take over from here.

255
00:16:01,785 --> 00:16:05,264
Don't talk about.
You come into the office. Now.

256
00:16:05,956 --> 00:16:09,560
Tyler, you stay here.
We will settle this with dignity.

257
00:16:10,377 --> 00:16:11,483
Sit down.

258
00:16:14,089 --> 00:16:15,983
You're not talking directly to Tyler.

259
00:16:16,926 --> 00:16:18,986
You are using me as an intermediary.

260
00:16:20,721 --> 00:16:22,156
Is it really necessary?

261
00:16:22,431 --> 00:16:26,035
That was good enough for Gorbachev.
And that's good enough for you.

262
00:16:34,234 --> 00:16:36,462
How are you?
Are you hungry?

263
00:16:36,946 --> 00:16:39,631
Charlotte,
can we get some crackers in here?

264
00:16:40,741 --> 00:16:42,330
Tell her not to sue me.

265
00:16:43,243 --> 00:16:46,055
- The lawsuit must be taken off the table.
- We can't do that.

266
00:16:46,163 --> 00:16:47,426
Then we don't sign.

267
00:16:47,831 --> 00:16:48,937
Is that an ultimatum?

268
00:16:53,379 --> 00:16:57,357
Good news. They agree not to
to file a case against you in the next two years.

269
00:16:57,424 --> 00:16:58,984
So in two years they're suing me?

270
00:16:59,093 --> 00:17:01,445
Damn it, George.
It's your grandson.

271
00:17:07,685 --> 00:17:10,662
Good. We agree not to sue.</i>

272
00:17:11,021 --> 00:17:12,123
And in writing.

273
00:17:12,147 --> 00:17:15,918
Yes, we write that together right away.
But then he signs?

274
00:17:16,026 --> 00:17:19,088
No, I'm not signing.

275
00:17:19,113 --> 00:17:21,883
- Such were the conditions.
- My conditions have changed.

276
00:17:21,907 --> 00:17:23,092
What?

277
00:17:24,118 --> 00:17:25,800
Because you have spoken to a journalist?

278
00:17:26,286 --> 00:17:29,306
Because if you have done it
and sign those documents

279
00:17:29,540 --> 00:17:31,183
- you commit perjury.
- Okay.

280
00:17:31,834 --> 00:17:32,940
What are you doing here?

281
00:17:33,002 --> 00:17:38,065
Tyler, I have modified the documents to
meet your requirements. Sign now.

282
00:17:44,888 --> 00:17:48,700
George, why don't you fax
the documents to your lawyer

283
00:17:48,809 --> 00:17:50,953
to hear
what he thinks Tyler should do.

284
00:18:17,296 --> 00:18:19,857
Tyler, your mom is on the phone.

285
00:18:21,717 --> 00:18:23,527
if you want
you can take it upstairs.

286
00:18:29,725 --> 00:18:31,965
Why did my mother call here?
Is everything okay?

287
00:18:36,356 --> 00:18:39,543
tyler i know
that you have spoken to the journalist.

288
00:18:41,820 --> 00:18:44,631
No, I haven't.

289
00:18:45,616 --> 00:18:48,927
- I don't have that...
- It's our lawyer on the phone.

290
00:18:52,539 --> 00:18:55,684
Tell him about your situation.
He can help you.

291
00:18:56,376 --> 00:18:57,482
I am...

292
00:19:17,523 --> 00:19:19,810
<i>My lawyer says,
that he should not sign.</i>

293
00:19:20,025 --> 00:19:23,630
Why? i mean
if he is telling the truth

294
00:19:23,654 --> 00:19:26,266
- he has no reason to...
- That was his recommendation.

295
00:19:26,990 --> 00:19:28,634
Now I must ask you to go.

296
00:19:29,368 --> 00:19:30,552
Tyler...

297
00:19:31,411 --> 00:19:33,431
you are becoming
buried in legal fees.

298
00:19:33,455 --> 00:19:38,143
Your parents stay
buried in legal fees.

299
00:19:38,168 --> 00:19:39,479
You are talking about my son.

300
00:19:39,503 --> 00:19:44,024
You can't afford it,
that is heading towards you.

301
00:19:44,925 --> 00:19:46,653
- Is it all worth it?
- Out with you.

302
00:19:48,178 --> 00:19:49,613
You hear from me.

303
00:20:07,781 --> 00:20:09,091
Would you...

304
00:20:11,201 --> 00:20:13,534
would you like
that you were related to Elizabeth

305
00:20:14,538 --> 00:20:15,644
instead of me?

306
00:20:16,123 --> 00:20:18,058
Stop feeling sorry for yourself?

307
00:20:18,584 --> 00:20:21,289
She lied to you about the documents,
I had to sign.

308
00:20:21,628 --> 00:20:25,315
She's lying. That's how she is.
Why can't you admit

309
00:20:25,424 --> 00:20:26,775
that you were wrong about her?

310
00:20:27,301 --> 00:20:29,945
Because you are a big man,
who never make mistakes

311
00:20:30,387 --> 00:20:31,493
and never be wrong?

312
00:20:34,892 --> 00:20:36,994
Have you spoken to the journalist?

313
00:20:44,193 --> 00:20:45,299
No.

314
00:20:50,449 --> 00:20:52,217
Then I choose to believe in you.

315
00:20:59,917 --> 00:21:03,353
We have a very big announcement.

316
00:21:03,629 --> 00:21:05,523
- Are you excited too?
- Walgreens is unhappy.

317
00:21:05,547 --> 00:21:08,943
Normandy is a disaster area.
We need new managers in the laboratories,

318
00:21:08,967 --> 00:21:10,073
new operational managers.

319
00:21:10,135 --> 00:21:12,779
Because you replaced Mark
with a skin specialist.

320
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,658
I don't want anyone
that causes problems.

321
00:21:15,682 --> 00:21:18,535
But we cannot put out fires
by igniting new ones.

322
00:21:18,685 --> 00:21:23,540
We must focus on the root of the problem.
What is the root of the problem?

323
00:21:24,608 --> 00:21:26,878
And she deserves to share
the legendary news

324
00:21:26,902 --> 00:21:28,379
- with you personally.
- What's the root?

325
00:21:28,403 --> 00:21:31,340
So without further ado
I present to you

326
00:21:31,365 --> 00:21:34,426
our fearless leader:
Elizabeth Holmes.

327
00:21:48,548 --> 00:21:51,026
We have herpes!

328
00:21:54,930 --> 00:22:01,995
Theranos! Theranos! Theranos...

329
00:22:18,578 --> 00:22:21,014
Congratulations on the state approval.

330
00:22:21,415 --> 00:22:24,518
It's going in the right direction.
How far are we with the article?

331
00:22:25,294 --> 00:22:26,520
Tyler didn't sign.

332
00:22:26,962 --> 00:22:28,830
It doesn't matter.
He is only a boy.

333
00:22:29,506 --> 00:22:32,192
And they have lost
more than half of their sources.

334
00:22:33,010 --> 00:22:36,696
Well. But we must
find the answers to those questions

335
00:22:36,722 --> 00:22:39,450
as the <i>Wall Street Journal </i> sent.
We must categorically

336
00:22:39,474 --> 00:22:41,034
deny the allegations.

337
00:22:48,650 --> 00:22:50,085
I won!

338
00:22:51,528 --> 00:22:53,338
By the way, I had an idea last night.

339
00:22:59,453 --> 00:23:01,805
A NEW ERA IN PREVENTION
HEALTH CARE BE NOTIFIED

340
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,640
What the hell!

341
00:23:12,966 --> 00:23:15,068
I know, Richard.
I'm looking at it.

342
00:23:15,177 --> 00:23:18,448
<i>In your own newspaper!</i>
She has written and published

343
00:23:18,472 --> 00:23:21,701
a round of bragging about herpes
in your own newspaper!

344
00:23:21,725 --> 00:23:25,203
She spits in your face!
How can this happen?

345
00:23:25,479 --> 00:23:28,416
It's a debate article, Richard.
News and debate are totally separate.

346
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,544
- They don't know what we are working on.
- Let me tell you how.

347
00:23:31,568 --> 00:23:35,714
Guess who the new investor in Theranos is?
Rupert Murdoch.

348
00:23:35,906 --> 00:23:40,218
Rupert fucking Murdoch.
The man who owns your newspaper.

349
00:23:40,369 --> 00:23:42,345
<i>I just discovered this this morning.</i>

350
00:23:43,497 --> 00:23:47,350
I am... Where do you say,
that information comes from?

351
00:23:47,417 --> 00:23:51,396
It comes from "you have to figure it out yourself."
That's where it comes from.

352
00:23:51,463 --> 00:23:53,648
125 million dollars,

353
00:23:53,673 --> 00:23:56,657
more than he ever had before
has invested in a technology company.

354
00:23:57,761 --> 00:23:59,154
Are you sure about that?

355
00:23:59,471 --> 00:24:01,948
Your story is dead.
He buries it.

356
00:24:01,973 --> 00:24:04,618
He buries it
to protect his investment.

357
00:24:04,851 --> 00:24:07,372
That is not necessarily true.
There are...

358
00:24:07,396 --> 00:24:10,540
The debate article! The debate article!

359
00:24:33,380 --> 00:24:35,691
The debate page has nothing to do with...

360
00:24:35,715 --> 00:24:37,862
Murdoch is right
invested 125 million dollars.

361
00:24:39,719 --> 00:24:40,825
At Theranos?

362
00:24:41,179 --> 00:24:42,322
No, in railways.

363
00:24:42,848 --> 00:24:43,954
Wow!

364
00:24:44,641 --> 00:24:46,602
He should have called you first then.

365
00:24:46,685 --> 00:24:48,912
We have to run that story now.

366
00:24:49,479 --> 00:24:51,040
- We can't do that.
- Why not!

367
00:24:51,064 --> 00:24:53,501
Because it is not ready.
You have lost half your sources,

368
00:24:53,525 --> 00:24:56,169
so we need more documentation.
We must wait.

369
00:24:56,361 --> 00:24:59,339
Judith, come on.

370
00:25:00,490 --> 00:25:01,676
Obama just appointed her

371
00:25:01,700 --> 00:25:04,302
to global ambassador for something or other.
The woman is

372
00:25:04,327 --> 00:25:07,849
4.5 billion worth of dollars.
They're about to win the hell out of it.

373
00:25:07,873 --> 00:25:11,893
- John. Every year in Sicily...
- Why are we talking about Italy?

374
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,480
No, we're talking about Sicily.
There is a custom called <i>La Mattanza.</i>

375
00:25:16,214 --> 00:25:17,320
Okay.

376
00:25:18,341 --> 00:25:21,903
The fishermen wade into the Mediterranean

377
00:25:22,762 --> 00:25:26,700
until the water reaches them to life.
They have clubs and spears in their hands,

378
00:25:27,434 --> 00:25:28,785
and then they stand there,

379
00:25:29,853 --> 00:25:32,664
very quiet, for hours...

380
00:25:34,149 --> 00:25:36,343
until the fish
begins to gather around them.

381
00:25:37,068 --> 00:25:40,213
Because the men stand so still

382
00:25:40,947 --> 00:25:44,467
and have waited so long,
the fish do not realize they are there.

383
00:25:44,493 --> 00:25:46,511
they think
that they are part of the landscape.

384
00:25:47,412 --> 00:25:51,725
But then... when enough fish are collected,

385
00:25:52,667 --> 00:25:56,896
is there anyone giving signs
and then... bang!

386
00:25:57,297 --> 00:25:59,065
Bang! Bang! Bang!

387
00:26:00,509 --> 00:26:02,569
Bang! Bang!

388
00:26:05,180 --> 00:26:06,406
There you can see.

389
00:26:07,224 --> 00:26:08,330
Living narrative.

390
00:26:08,892 --> 00:26:09,998
We are waiting.

391
00:26:12,395 --> 00:26:14,216
Until Boies answers my questions?

392
00:26:15,524 --> 00:26:17,083
Until we know
that we have them.

393
00:26:23,448 --> 00:26:24,966
- Yes.
- Go ahead.

394
00:26:53,144 --> 00:26:54,250
You best!

395
00:26:54,437 --> 00:26:55,414
I...

396
00:26:55,438 --> 00:26:58,329
Sorry, but your partner
let me in downstairs and I…

397
00:26:58,567 --> 00:27:00,335
What are you doing here?

398
00:27:01,278 --> 00:27:03,797
I uh... brought a lamp.

399
00:27:05,448 --> 00:27:06,633
Yes, you just have…

400
00:27:06,658 --> 00:27:10,011
You didn't answer my calls,
so I thought I'd drop by

401
00:27:10,036 --> 00:27:12,514
to say hello
and hand over a lamp.

402
00:27:12,747 --> 00:27:15,731
don't you remember what you said
that you were missing one for your room?

403
00:27:19,004 --> 00:27:20,648
How long have you had that knife?

404
00:27:20,672 --> 00:27:22,726
i don't know
it helps me to...

405
00:27:23,300 --> 00:27:24,703
It helps me sleep.

406
00:27:33,310 --> 00:27:36,996
When you were at Theranos,
Did you ever hear of Ian Gibbons?

407
00:27:39,357 --> 00:27:40,463
Perhaps.

408
00:27:43,737 --> 00:27:46,923
Carreyrou told me
that a chemist was employed.

409
00:27:49,743 --> 00:27:52,470
And that they laid him
under so much pressure that he…

410
00:27:54,998 --> 00:27:56,391
took his own life.

411
00:28:01,296 --> 00:28:03,398
I keep thinking about him.

412
00:28:07,177 --> 00:28:08,570
Yes, it is…

413
00:28:10,722 --> 00:28:11,865
It's bad right now.

414
00:28:14,225 --> 00:28:15,618
They are suing me.

415
00:28:17,479 --> 00:28:19,247
My grandfather doesn't talk to me anymore.

416
00:28:19,356 --> 00:28:22,709
They keep an eye on everything,
what i do

417
00:28:33,161 --> 00:28:35,388
At least now you have an ugly lamp.

418
00:29:03,316 --> 00:29:05,794
David, what are you doing here?

419
00:29:05,860 --> 00:29:07,003
I want to talk to you.

420
00:29:07,904 --> 00:29:09,547
Were you in the neighborhood?

421
00:29:09,572 --> 00:29:10,678
- Or...
- No.

422
00:29:12,617 --> 00:29:17,765
The article does not disappear.
It does not progress,

423
00:29:17,789 --> 00:29:22,101
but it doesn't disappear either,
and I don't make it disappear,

424
00:29:22,585 --> 00:29:24,229
until i know
what they have.

425
00:29:26,381 --> 00:29:27,982
it is now

426
00:29:28,466 --> 00:29:32,695
that you have to tell me everything
what you have hidden from me.

427
00:29:53,241 --> 00:29:54,717
You must be prepared.

428
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,762
I am prepared.
But on what?

429
00:29:58,163 --> 00:29:59,752
On Boies killing your story.

430
00:29:59,998 --> 00:30:01,517
- No.
- He called the meeting.

431
00:30:01,541 --> 00:30:03,060
He has proof
that revives it.

432
00:30:03,084 --> 00:30:06,271
Judith, the story holds.
I still have Dr. Betz in Arizona.

433
00:30:06,463 --> 00:30:10,192
I have the nurse, Carmen Washington,
I have the patient, I have Erica Cheung,

434
00:30:10,216 --> 00:30:13,528
Mark Roessler, Richard Fuisz,
Rochelle Gibbons, Phyllis Gardner.

435
00:30:13,553 --> 00:30:15,113
- For background.
- And Tyler.

436
00:30:15,221 --> 00:30:16,991
You haven't heard from Tyler.

437
00:30:17,015 --> 00:30:19,860
No, it also means,
that I don't know if he has regretted.

438
00:30:20,185 --> 00:30:23,371
Come now.
What happened to "stick the fish"?

439
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:28,209
Sometimes the fish can drag you
in court, and then you have to let them go.

440
00:30:29,819 --> 00:30:32,199
So repeat after me:
"You have to let the fish go."

441
00:30:34,282 --> 00:30:35,778
Sometimes the fish have to let go.

442
00:30:35,992 --> 00:30:40,346
Just.
Thank you for coming.

443
00:30:41,456 --> 00:30:44,267
It's John Carreyrou and Jay Conti.

444
00:30:44,375 --> 00:30:46,520
who is deputy chief attorney
for our parent company.

445
00:30:46,544 --> 00:30:47,650
Wait.

446
00:30:48,671 --> 00:30:50,940
Are we recording?
Is it an interrogation?

447
00:30:50,965 --> 00:30:52,461
No, it's just a recording.

448
00:30:52,675 --> 00:30:55,196
Wait a little.
Maybe we'll have a recording too.

449
00:30:55,220 --> 00:30:57,274
- What are you saying?
- Yes, why not? Sure.

450
00:30:57,347 --> 00:30:58,907
Okay, so…

451
00:30:59,891 --> 00:31:03,286
- Where is the app?
- There is Reporter Plus.

452
00:31:03,478 --> 00:31:06,664
- Should I download it?
- Yes, go to the App Store.

453
00:31:07,732 --> 00:31:09,543
- And how much does it cost.
- It's free.

454
00:31:09,567 --> 00:31:11,002
Okay, free.

455
00:31:13,363 --> 00:31:16,217
There it is.
Good, I have it. Do you have it?

456
00:31:16,241 --> 00:31:17,343
I have it.

457
00:31:17,367 --> 00:31:19,136
- I have it.
- Can we move on then?

458
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,846
Yes, yes, yes.
Of course, of course.

459
00:31:20,870 --> 00:31:24,265
Okay, you've sent us 80 questions,
and here we are

460
00:31:24,332 --> 00:31:27,686
to refute the false premise,
which is the basis of the questions.

461
00:31:27,710 --> 00:31:31,189
It is clear to us that
that one of your important sources

462
00:31:31,256 --> 00:31:33,692
is a young man named Tyler Shultz.

463
00:31:33,716 --> 00:31:36,320
We do not disclose our confidential sources,

464
00:31:36,344 --> 00:31:39,657
nor should you presume to know,
who they are. Can we move on?

465
00:31:39,681 --> 00:31:41,199
You are absolutely right, Judith.

466
00:31:41,850 --> 00:31:44,285
I'm not begging you
about revealing your sources.

467
00:31:44,477 --> 00:31:47,205
I respect journalists
and trying to protect you.

468
00:31:47,313 --> 00:31:49,707
There's just no story here.

469
00:31:49,941 --> 00:31:51,292
So answer my questions.

470
00:31:55,947 --> 00:31:58,299
John. Your name is John, right?

471
00:31:58,575 --> 00:31:59,681
I do, David.

472
00:32:00,785 --> 00:32:03,179
You're making a fool of yourself
by pressing it here.

473
00:32:03,705 --> 00:32:05,723
So you're the good cop, David.

474
00:32:07,041 --> 00:32:13,106
No, I'm just trying to find out
how we got here

475
00:32:13,214 --> 00:32:16,442
where <i>Wall Street Journal</i>
considering publishing a story,

476
00:32:16,676 --> 00:32:21,572
as per my knowledge
is wrong, misleading and unfair.

477
00:32:21,806 --> 00:32:23,700
And which will disclose information,

478
00:32:23,850 --> 00:32:28,663
protected by Theranos
as trade secrets.

479
00:32:29,856 --> 00:32:33,960
Do you really think
that all the recognition

480
00:32:34,027 --> 00:32:37,672
from academics and scientists
and healthcare environments,

481
00:32:37,780 --> 00:32:40,675
as Theranos' results have obtained,
is wrong?

482
00:32:40,825 --> 00:32:44,303
That all previously published articles
about Theranos,

483
00:32:44,412 --> 00:32:49,101
including in the <i>Wall Street Journal,</i>
is the result of misleading

484
00:32:49,125 --> 00:32:51,686
manipulation by the company.

485
00:32:52,629 --> 00:32:53,771
Wow!

486
00:32:54,672 --> 00:32:57,275
If that were true,
would it be a strong story.

487
00:32:57,467 --> 00:33:02,280
Why would you drop such a story?
Why should you check it completely?

488
00:33:03,181 --> 00:33:06,576
It would be history,
which can shape a career.

489
00:33:07,435 --> 00:33:09,662
The only problem is…

490
00:33:11,147 --> 00:33:12,540
that it is not true at all.

491
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,294
Then why don't you answer my questions?

492
00:33:29,374 --> 00:33:31,226
I just want to know
whether Theranos has…

493
00:33:31,250 --> 00:33:34,228
What about your behavior in Arizona?

494
00:33:34,379 --> 00:33:36,190
What you did down there with those doctors,

495
00:33:36,214 --> 00:33:39,193
was journalism for the morning papers.

496
00:33:39,217 --> 00:33:41,153
- Where is the good cop?
- The morning papers?

497
00:33:41,177 --> 00:33:43,529
You asked the doctors leading questions.

498
00:33:43,638 --> 00:33:44,907
Here is a leading question.

499
00:33:44,931 --> 00:33:47,617
If Theranos has new technology,
what is it then?

500
00:33:47,809 --> 00:33:50,286
Okay, so we will
give you the recipe for coke...

501
00:33:50,311 --> 00:33:52,414
- Nobody asks for that.
- ...to convince you that,

502
00:33:52,438 --> 00:33:54,333
- that there is no arsenic in it.
- It's absurd.

503
00:33:54,357 --> 00:33:55,463
Okay, now just answer.

504
00:33:56,025 --> 00:33:58,796
Using Theranos fingerstick samples
in their technology or not?

505
00:33:58,820 --> 00:34:00,422
It is a trade secret.

506
00:34:00,446 --> 00:34:01,507
A secret.

507
00:34:01,531 --> 00:34:03,399
How about this?
It's also easy enough.

508
00:34:03,574 --> 00:34:06,010
You use Siemens appliances
in your laboratory.

509
00:34:06,077 --> 00:34:09,388
- Yes, but only for comparisons.
- So you acknowledge that you have them?

510
00:34:09,580 --> 00:34:12,600
- For comparisons.
- You fence blindly.

511
00:34:12,625 --> 00:34:14,728
She said by way of comparison.
Go ahead.

512
00:34:14,752 --> 00:34:19,440
Explain some of them to me
the recent changes in language use

513
00:34:19,590 --> 00:34:21,235
- on the website.
- The language on the website!

514
00:34:21,259 --> 00:34:22,361
The sentence...

515
00:34:22,385 --> 00:34:25,863
“Many of our tests
requires only a few drops of blood."

516
00:34:25,930 --> 00:34:27,658
That sentence was recently deleted.

517
00:34:27,890 --> 00:34:29,525
It makes marketing accurate.

518
00:34:32,812 --> 00:34:33,918
Accurate?

519
00:34:34,814 --> 00:34:37,500
Would you then describe
the language before as inaccurate?

520
00:34:37,567 --> 00:34:38,673
Well...

521
00:34:39,027 --> 00:34:41,714
We would like to acknowledge,
that not every blood test

522
00:34:41,738 --> 00:34:46,884
is tested on the company's own technology,
but they are in transition.

523
00:34:46,993 --> 00:34:49,929
It is a transition process, a journey.

524
00:34:51,330 --> 00:34:52,436
A journey?

525
00:34:55,585 --> 00:34:56,691
A journey.

526
00:34:58,546 --> 00:35:00,106
Well. This meeting is over.

527
00:35:00,173 --> 00:35:03,276
After all, it only lasted four hours...

528
00:35:17,315 --> 00:35:18,666
You best! Gentle sky.

529
00:35:19,942 --> 00:35:22,087
They admitted
to use other people's analysis tools.

530
00:35:22,111 --> 00:35:24,048
- They did.
- After months of saying

531
00:35:24,072 --> 00:35:25,966
- that they do not use other people's.
- They did.

532
00:35:25,990 --> 00:35:27,341
Well done, Judith.

533
00:35:27,742 --> 00:35:29,635
- Is it...?
- Bang!

534
00:35:39,212 --> 00:35:41,522
Elizabeth, they bring the story.

535
00:35:42,006 --> 00:35:43,566
When will it come on?

536
00:35:44,133 --> 00:35:46,235
I don't know. Soon.

537
00:35:47,261 --> 00:35:48,322
I have spoken to Rupert

538
00:35:48,346 --> 00:35:50,364
and asked him to kill the story. But...

539
00:35:50,431 --> 00:35:52,158
Did you ask Rupert Murdoch

540
00:35:53,309 --> 00:35:55,913
about killing
a <i>Wall Street Journal</i> story for you?

541
00:35:55,937 --> 00:35:58,748
Of course.
He said his hands are tied.

542
00:35:59,357 --> 00:36:02,877
I don't understand why he doesn't
just making a phone call.

543
00:36:03,444 --> 00:36:04,754
How bad will it be?

544
00:36:05,905 --> 00:36:07,215
We can handle it.

545
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,598
George, I want to know
that I have your support.

546
00:36:18,167 --> 00:36:19,393
I have heard...

547
00:36:21,379 --> 00:36:22,521
that you become a member

548
00:36:22,547 --> 00:36:26,651
by the Board of Trustees of Harvard Medical School.

549
00:36:27,176 --> 00:36:30,321
Congratulations. You must be delighted.

550
00:36:31,806 --> 00:36:34,451
Now there is someone who dropped out
of the university, on the board

551
00:36:34,475 --> 00:36:39,705
at Harvard Medical School.
Harvard's support for our company

552
00:36:39,772 --> 00:36:42,709
means much more than a journalist,
who do not understand it.

553
00:36:42,733 --> 00:36:43,839
Elizabeth...

554
00:36:45,653 --> 00:36:47,505
I have worked for two presidents,

555
00:36:49,282 --> 00:36:53,844
Nixon and Reagan,
who made bad decisions.

556
00:36:55,913 --> 00:37:00,017
Nixon to a greater extent.
But Reagan…

557
00:37:01,836 --> 00:37:05,022
was implicated in the Iran-Contra scandal,

558
00:37:06,549 --> 00:37:08,442
and it damaged his reputation.

559
00:37:09,135 --> 00:37:10,820
He was a big man.

560
00:37:13,097 --> 00:37:15,533
But he began
to listen to the wrong ones.

561
00:37:16,434 --> 00:37:19,954
It's easy to make that mistake
to listen to the wrong ones.

562
00:37:21,939 --> 00:37:23,666
If mistakes have been made,

563
00:37:25,610 --> 00:37:27,504
maybe it's time to consider

564
00:37:27,528 --> 00:37:30,131
whether you surround yourself with the right people.

565
00:37:33,951 --> 00:37:35,803
Whether Sunny is the right person.

566
00:37:43,753 --> 00:37:46,397
Honey, how was George?

567
00:37:51,886 --> 00:37:53,904
I said:
"How was George?"

568
00:37:55,306 --> 00:37:57,492
I'm going to dinner
with the Harvard board tonight,

569
00:37:57,516 --> 00:37:59,161
- and must...
- I have laid out your clothes.

570
00:37:59,185 --> 00:38:00,996
I don't want to wear what you chose.

571
00:38:01,020 --> 00:38:02,580
Now just put it on.

572
00:38:11,405 --> 00:38:14,050
I have no fucking idea
what the hell should i do

573
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:15,844
i don't know
when it comes out.

574
00:38:15,868 --> 00:38:17,224
i don't know
what it says.

575
00:38:18,454 --> 00:38:20,097
You should have protected me.

576
00:38:20,623 --> 00:38:23,476
Okay, there you can see.

577
00:38:24,919 --> 00:38:26,740
george said
I was to blame.

578
00:38:28,214 --> 00:38:30,566
Is this what you want to do:
Blame me?

579
00:38:30,591 --> 00:38:33,277
No, of course not.

580
00:38:35,429 --> 00:38:36,989
I have to catch the private plane.

581
00:38:43,521 --> 00:38:45,623
Because I know everything
what you know.

582
00:38:46,565 --> 00:38:47,833
What?

583
00:38:49,777 --> 00:38:51,754
You were also the recipient of all those emails.

584
00:39:01,747 --> 00:39:03,057
But I'm the director...

585
00:39:04,834 --> 00:39:07,228
and I don't always read all my emails.

586
00:39:14,927 --> 00:39:16,445
I love you my tiger.

587
00:39:19,307 --> 00:39:20,699
I miss you already.

588
00:39:22,768 --> 00:39:23,874
I miss you too.

589
00:39:28,524 --> 00:39:29,741
CALL FROM RICHARD FUISZ

590
00:39:36,449 --> 00:39:37,384
Richard...

591
00:39:37,408 --> 00:39:39,468
<i>They have killed it. It is dead.</i>

592
00:39:40,703 --> 00:39:42,012
You joked in the spinach.

593
00:39:43,122 --> 00:39:44,349
I knew it.

594
00:39:44,373 --> 00:39:48,811
You got cocky and ruined it.
I'll try with some others.

595
00:39:50,338 --> 00:39:51,356
It's too late.

596
00:39:51,380 --> 00:39:53,899
Is it?
I guess that's what you think.

597
00:39:54,633 --> 00:39:56,735
Don't talk about it, mate.
Don't talk about.

598
00:39:56,886 --> 00:39:59,447
It's coming on tonight mate.

599
00:40:00,973 --> 00:40:02,658
Tonight? What?

600
00:40:03,893 --> 00:40:04,999
<i>Really?</i>

601
00:40:06,145 --> 00:40:09,248
Yes, that's good!

602
00:40:10,149 --> 00:40:12,376
That's good.
You got it done.

603
00:40:13,527 --> 00:40:14,633
Well, thanks anyway.

604
00:40:15,154 --> 00:40:18,603
Should I thank you? I served
it for you on a silver platter.

605
00:40:19,867 --> 00:40:23,180
I hope you can go out tonight.
Have a drink, celebrate with the family.

606
00:40:23,204 --> 00:40:25,764
With my family. Well.

607
00:40:27,124 --> 00:40:29,478
Well then... goodbye.

608
00:40:29,502 --> 00:40:31,928
If something is wrong,
then I'll call you.

609
00:40:32,546 --> 00:40:34,565
I expect so,
that you do. good night

610
00:40:37,635 --> 00:40:41,363
Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!

611
00:40:46,769 --> 00:40:48,662
Well! Yes!

612
00:40:55,945 --> 00:41:00,090
Good, it's done.

613
00:41:14,922 --> 00:41:17,024
Hi, may I ask for a glass of water?

614
00:41:20,010 --> 00:41:21,445
A whiskey with ice.

615
00:41:28,018 --> 00:41:30,329
Phyllis, I saw
that you were also on the board.

616
00:41:30,646 --> 00:41:32,581
I do,
and so do you now.

617
00:41:32,731 --> 00:41:36,126
I am so honored
to be asked to advise

618
00:41:36,193 --> 00:41:38,379
the Dean of Health Sciences
about strategies.

619
00:41:38,779 --> 00:41:39,885
It is an honor.

620
00:41:40,281 --> 00:41:42,592
It's good to see you.

621
00:41:42,616 --> 00:41:44,903
I look forward to
the article in the <i>Wall Street Journal.</i>

622
00:41:45,077 --> 00:41:46,512
Yes, I've heard of it.

623
00:41:46,912 --> 00:41:49,181
i think
that many will be interested in it.

624
00:41:50,166 --> 00:41:52,227
And when it turns into a scandal,

625
00:41:52,251 --> 00:41:54,688
because it will be a scandal,
what do you think is going to happen

626
00:41:54,712 --> 00:41:57,982
for all the other women,
that will start companies.

627
00:41:59,216 --> 00:42:00,484
Who do they go to?

628
00:42:01,802 --> 00:42:03,445
Who will trust them?

629
00:42:04,847 --> 00:42:06,436
Because it's not just about you.

630
00:42:08,476 --> 00:42:10,202
It's never just about you.

631
00:42:12,271 --> 00:42:14,749
- Good to see you, Phyllis.
- Don't call me Phyllis.

632
00:42:14,773 --> 00:42:17,106
I'm not Phyllis to you,
but Dr. Gardner.

633
00:42:40,508 --> 00:42:43,110
CHRISTIAN: HAVE YOU READ IT?
SUNNY: ARE YOU OK?

634
00:42:53,687 --> 00:42:55,456
<i>Yesterday I realized something...</i>

635
00:42:56,941 --> 00:42:58,334
That's what happens.

636
00:42:59,568 --> 00:43:02,422
That's what happens
when working to change things.

637
00:43:02,446 --> 00:43:04,257
THE THERANOS COMET
IN TECHNOLOGICAL PROBLEMS

638
00:43:04,281 --> 00:43:06,592
<i>First they think you're crazy,
then they fight you,</i>

639
00:43:07,409 --> 00:43:09,386
<i>and then you can suddenly change the world.</i>

640
00:43:09,995 --> 00:43:13,444
You have probably already seen the article,
that have been published about our company

641
00:43:14,041 --> 00:43:15,893
in the <i>Wall Street Journal.</i>

642
00:43:16,043 --> 00:43:20,189
<i>The man who wrote it, John Carreyrou,
is a hateful person.</i>

643
00:43:20,422 --> 00:43:22,650
He is a sad man.

644
00:43:23,509 --> 00:43:25,152
But we are a team,

645
00:43:26,470 --> 00:43:28,113
and we will fight

646
00:43:28,597 --> 00:43:33,661
for every tiny detail.

647
00:43:38,941 --> 00:43:45,130
Fuck you, Carreyrou! Fuck you, Carreyrou!
Fuck you, Carreyrou! Fuck you, Carreyrou!

648
00:44:58,103 --> 00:45:00,164
Texts by: Mads Frese


