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(BREATHING HEAVILY)
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(CLAN KING)
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(DIGGING)
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(WIND HOWLING)
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(GRUNTING)
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(CRACKLING)
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We climb because it's fun
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and mainly it was fun.
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That's all we ever did.
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We were fairly anarchic
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and fairly irresponsible
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and we didn't give a damn
about anyone or anything else.
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We just wanted to climb
the world and it was brilliant fun.
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And...
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Every now and then
it went wildly wrong.
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And then it wasn't.
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JOE: When I went to Peru,
I was 25, Simon was 21.
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But we had done
a lot of climbing in the Alps.
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SIMON: To climb mountains
that have not been climbed before
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or a new route to the mountain
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which was what my climbing life
had been moving towards.
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JOE: A friend of ours who'd done
an amazing amount of climbing,
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in South America, had seen this face
in the mid '7.0s.
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I think he said
it would be a challenging day out.
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SIMON: It was the last big mountain face
in this range of mountains
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that haven't been climbed.
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There's a great unknown there.
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What's so compelling
is stepping into that unknown.
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SIMON: It was an isolated spot,
two days walk from a road
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and the mountains all around
seemed very big
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compared to the mountains
I'd seen in the Alps.
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We eventually reached a spot
on the approach to Siula Grande.
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You couldn't take
the donkeys further than this point.
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I guess it would be four or five miles
from the bottom of the mountains.
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We knew Siula Grande was
at the back but we didn't see it.
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We'd met this lad
called Richard Hawking, in Lima.
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He'd been travelling on his own,
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and I think we said,
"Why don't you join us on our trip?"
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I think he said he didn't know
anything about mountaineering.
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I didn't really know
what part of Peru I was in
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or quite what
I was letting myself in for.
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We wanted Richard because
when we were on the mountain,
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if he was at base camp,
he could look after our kit.
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I got to know Simon quite well.
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I don't know whether it was
because of his personality
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or whether it was because
he was more forgiving towards me,
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being a non-climber
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in that environment.
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But I found it very hard
to get to know Joe.
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JOE: I was much more ambitious
about doing it than Simon was.
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Siula Grande meant a lot.
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We knew a number of expeditions
had failed on it.
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If no one had tried
it wouldn't be the same.
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It was the fact that
people had tried and failed.
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So we knew it was hard.
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And my feeling was,
"Well, we'll just do it,
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"we're better than them."
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SIMON: Since the 197.0's
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people had been trying to climb
mountains in the greater ranges
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in what's called alpine style.
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And essentially alpine style means,
you pack your rucksack
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full of all your clothing,
food and climbing equipment
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and you start off from a base camp
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and try and climb the mountain
in a single push.
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You don't fix a line of ropes
up it beforehand,
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you don't have a set of camps
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that you stock
and come up and back down from.
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That's the purest style,
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and that's the style that Joe
and I had climbed Siula Grande.
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JOE: It's a very committing
way of climbing
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because you have no line of retreat.
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If something goes wrong
it can be very serious.
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There's no rescue in this,
no helicopter rescue,
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and there's no other people.
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There's no margin for error.
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If you get badly hurt,
you'll probably die.
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(WIND HOWLING)
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I hadn't seen it, from this angle
and it looked steep.
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I sort of thought...
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You know, "Christ, it's big."
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Looks harder than I thought,
than I expected.
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But I was excited.
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JOE: At the start, doing it,
it was brilliant.
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This is what we live for.
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(EXCLAIMING)
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I love the actual movement of climbing.
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It's when you're climbing well,
it just feels brilliant.
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It's like a combination
between ballet and gymnastics.
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It's that mixture of power and grace.
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SIMON: For me mountains are the most
beautiful places in the world.
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When I go into these places,
I feel an amazing sense of space
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and an amazing sense of freedom
when I get away
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from all of the clutter
that we have in our world.
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JOE: I think we surprised ourselves
at the speed
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we got up the ice field,
it was about 1,000 foot,
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and got up to a point where the ice
is running through rock bands
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and you got vertical cascades.
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And we started intricately climbing
through these.
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(SNIFFING)
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The fact that
you are tied to your partner,
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means that you put
an immense amount of trust
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in someone else's skill and ability.
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But at some point, I was thinking,
"God sakes, I'm gonna dead fall here".
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"God's sake, don't fall here. "
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The rope can be something
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that rather than save your life,
could kill you.
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If your mate falls off
and all his gear rips out,
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you're dead. You're gonna go with him.
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If you're gonna do that
sort of climbing, at some point
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you're gonna have to
rely wholly on your partner.
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JOE: We were very pleased
at the end of that first day,
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we had done a lot of climbing,
good climbing.
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We were very confident
at that point that we should make it.
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JOE: At that altitude,
you dehydrate enormously.
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You have to drink a lot of fluid,
four or five litres a day,
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and the only way to get it
is by melting snow.
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(SIZZLING)
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SIMON: Everything is so time consuming.
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To make a single brew
at that altitude takes a long time.
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You're perhaps looking at an hour.
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So perhaps we didn't brew up
as much as we should have done.
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But we didn't have an awful lot
of spare gas with us either.
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There's not a lot of risk
in our lives normally now.
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And to put an element of risk
back into it
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takes us out of the humdrum.
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In that sense
it makes you feel more alive.
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JOE: I've never been that high before
and it's very strenuous.
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Not only is it difficult and unstable,
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but your heart is going like nobody's
business because of the altitude.
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(WIND BLOWING FEROCIOUSLY)
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JOE: It had now got very cold indeed.
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We were up 20,000, 20,500 feet.
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It was windy and it started snowing
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and the whole face was pouring
with powder-snow avalanches.
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SIMON: The snow would
actually stick on your clothing.
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It would then freeze on you like
you're wearing a suit of armour.
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JOE: The last section on
the face was a few hundred feet
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of the most nightmarish climbing.
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Completely unstable powder snow,
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no anchors at any point.
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SIMON: It was physically
very, very tiring
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full body climbing really.
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JOE: It took us the best part of
five or six hours to climb 200 feet.
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SIMON: We carried on
way after it had got dark.
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JOE: I was getting extremely cold
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because I was just sitting still
while Simon was trying to climb.
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I was getting near hypothermic.
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You just knew that if you just
carried on regardless
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it was gonna go tits up.
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So we dug a snow cave.
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JOE: In the morning, in good weather,
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we actually saw
what we'd been trying to climb.
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It was this Andean nightmare
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of flutings of the finest powder
gorged out by snow falling down.
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Meringues and mushrooms
and cornices all over the place.
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We'd heard about these strange
powder snow conditions
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you get in the Andes
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and we'd never seen them before.
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I don't know the physics of it.
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Explains why powder snow
can stay on such steep slopes.
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In the Alps it would just slide off
if the slope is above 40 degrees.
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It is some of the most precarious,
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unnerving and dangerous climbing
I've ever done.
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We were actually scared
that we would get to an impasse
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where we couldn't climb any further up
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because we knew we wouldn't
be able to get back down.
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We were climbing ourselves into a trap.
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(GRUNTS)
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And we could see this 4,500-foot
drop that was waiting for us.
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(BREATHING HEAVILY)
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So it was a great relief
that by 2:00 in the afternoon
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we got onto the north ridge
and off the west face.
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And we vowed
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that we didn't want to
go near Andean flutings again.
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(HEAVY BREATHING)
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SIMON: We were pretty tired
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by the time we got up onto the ridge.
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JOE: I was knackered,
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and I remember thinking, "Sod
the summit, we've done the face,
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"I can't be bothered
to go all the way up there."
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And then we thought, " Hang on,
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"we have come all this way,
we might as well stand on the top."
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(GRUNTS)
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(BOTH BREATHING HEAVILY)
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(COUGHING)
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JOE: Long way down, isn't it?
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SIMON: Yeah.
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(BOTH LAUGHING)
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JOE: I don't particularly like summits
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because 80% of accidents
happen on descent.
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SIMON: We'd decided
before we climbed the face
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that we were going to
come down the north ridge
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down to a col between the Siula Grande
and another mountain called Yerupaja
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then we'd be able to abseil down
a smaller section of the face.
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JOE: Already the clouds were coming in
from East, big clouds.
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SIMON: We expected this ridge
to be quite an easy way to descend.
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We were hoping we'd be able to walk.
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It turned out to be very difficult.
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JOE: It was horrendous.
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Vertical on the west side,
with the cornices overhanging,
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and on the east side, steep flutings
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running down 3,000 feet below us.
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SIMON: It was a shock, really,
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and it was quite dangerous and
it all got a bit out of control.
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(WIND HOWLING)
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JOE: Within about half an hour
to an hour of leaving the summit
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we were lost.
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We were in a whiteout,
we couldn't see anything.
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Then we got a little break in the cloud
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and I saw the ridge so I started
climbing back up to it.
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I didn't know,
because of the side I was on,
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but it was actually an enormous cornice,
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an overhang of snow and ice,
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and I was walking over the top of it.
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(SCREAMING)
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I was left hanging, looking down,
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as all this snow and ice
then fell away from me
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down the west side of Siula Grande.
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I got back up on the ridge
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and I shouted down to Joe
that I'd found the ridge.
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I said, "I've found the ridge, Joe."
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JOE: We'd hoped to have
got down that day
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but by the time it got dark
we were still very high,
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still at 20,000 feet.
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And that night, as we made a brew,
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the gas ran out.
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SIMON: It was pretty obvious
the following morning
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that we'd descended
the worst part of the ridge.
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I was pretty confident
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that we'd get back down
to the base camp that day.
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I thought at that stage
it was pretty much in the bag,
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the whole climb.
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JOE: I was ahead of Simon
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and suddenly there was
this vertical wall
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bisecting the ridge.
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I had to get down
on my hands and knees,
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hammer my axes into the ice and
lower myself off the ice cliff
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When you hammer the axe in
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you listen to the sound it makes
and you look at it.
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I was hanging by both axes,
I took the hammer out
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and I wanted to place it
in the vertical wall.
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I swung and the pick went in,
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and it just made a...
244
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Just a strange sound.
245
00:22:54,461 --> 00:22:56,463
I thought, "Well, I'll take it out,
246
00:22:56,547 --> 00:22:57,589
"make a good placement."
247
00:22:57,673 --> 00:22:59,383
I just wanted to put bomber.
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00:22:59,466 --> 00:23:02,052
Dead solid axe placements in
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all the way down.
250
00:23:04,096 --> 00:23:07,015
And I was about to swing
at the ice again...
251
00:23:13,647 --> 00:23:15,607
(MOANING)
252
00:23:19,111 --> 00:23:20,571
(WHIMPERS)
253
00:23:21,947 --> 00:23:24,783
(SCREAMS IN PAIN)
254
00:23:25,284 --> 00:23:28,537
JOE: This pain just came
flooding down my thigh
255
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and my knee was
very, very, very painful.
256
00:23:33,458 --> 00:23:36,253
oh! oh, fuck, fuck, fuck!
257
00:23:37,254 --> 00:23:40,841
The impact drove my lower leg
258
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straight through my knee joint.
259
00:23:43,343 --> 00:23:45,304
(WHIMPERING)
260
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As the bone went into my femur,
261
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it split the tibial plateau
straight off and carried on up.
262
00:23:56,857 --> 00:23:59,359
(MOANING)
263
00:24:02,279 --> 00:24:05,907
It was quite wild, the pain.
I couldn't cope with it at first.
264
00:24:11,121 --> 00:24:12,789
I just breathed a lot
and it started to go.
265
00:24:12,873 --> 00:24:14,958
I can remember
looking across to the west
266
00:24:15,042 --> 00:24:17,794
and seeing that we were level
with the summit.
267
00:24:17,878 --> 00:24:20,881
I had a height gauge of where we were.
268
00:24:20,964 --> 00:24:24,134
And I just thought,
"I can't have broken my leg,
269
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"if I've broken my leg, I'm dead."
270
00:24:36,605 --> 00:24:39,900
(PANTING)
271
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Then the rope went slack.
272
00:24:49,910 --> 00:24:53,246
I knew that meant that Simon
was coming towards me.
273
00:25:07,761 --> 00:25:10,931
JOE: I couldn't feel
any bone under anything.
274
00:25:11,014 --> 00:25:13,600
I brought my hand up
and there was no blood on it,
275
00:25:13,684 --> 00:25:15,310
and the pain had gone down
a little bit,
276
00:25:15,394 --> 00:25:18,689
and I thought maybe
I was being a bit wet
277
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and I'd just torn a ligament
or something.
278
00:25:23,735 --> 00:25:25,821
(WHIMPERING)
279
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I tried to stand on it.
280
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(SCREAMS)
281
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I felt all the bone go,
all grating and everything,
282
00:25:34,204 --> 00:25:36,623
and I knew that it was broken then.
283
00:25:46,258 --> 00:25:48,927
SIMON: The look that he gave
to me sticks in my mind,
284
00:25:49,010 --> 00:25:52,723
this look of shock
and desperation and terror, really,
285
00:25:52,806 --> 00:25:55,642
lots of things in this single look.
286
00:25:58,478 --> 00:26:00,564
He said, "Are you okay?"
287
00:26:00,647 --> 00:26:03,942
And I think it did occur to me
to say, "Yeah, I'm fine,"
288
00:26:04,025 --> 00:26:05,527
and I thought, "That's stupid."
289
00:26:05,610 --> 00:26:08,905
I think I said,
" No, I've broken my leg."
290
00:26:08,989 --> 00:26:10,323
(EXCLAIMS)
291
00:26:11,408 --> 00:26:13,618
Immediately, I... Just doom, really.
292
00:26:13,702 --> 00:26:17,539
I thought, "oh, God, we're stuffed.
293
00:26:18,039 --> 00:26:19,124
"We're gonna be doing well
294
00:26:19,207 --> 00:26:21,835
"if either of us get out of this now. "
295
00:26:25,505 --> 00:26:28,925
It did come into my mind,
"If he slips off the mountain
296
00:26:29,009 --> 00:26:33,263
"then I can just clear off
and get myself down
297
00:26:33,346 --> 00:26:36,433
"and I won't have to
have all the hassle
298
00:26:36,516 --> 00:26:38,894
"of trying to deal with him
299
00:26:38,977 --> 00:26:41,354
"and with the situation we're in."
300
00:26:45,025 --> 00:26:47,986
He gave me painkillers which were
effectively headache tablets.
301
00:26:48,069 --> 00:26:52,407
And he didn't really
talk about anything.
302
00:26:53,700 --> 00:26:57,370
It was almost as if he knew...
He knew what this meant.
303
00:26:57,454 --> 00:26:58,914
He knew that...
304
00:27:00,665 --> 00:27:03,376
And I knew, that he was
going to have to leave me.
305
00:27:04,211 --> 00:27:06,963
He could've said something like,
"I'm gonna get some help, "
306
00:27:07,047 --> 00:27:09,299
and I'd have gone, " Right, yeah"
307
00:27:11,218 --> 00:27:13,345
because I knew there wasn't any help.
308
00:27:13,428 --> 00:27:16,139
It would've been an easy way
for him to say it.
309
00:27:16,973 --> 00:27:20,936
I didn't think we seriously thought
whether there was any choice.
310
00:27:30,862 --> 00:27:32,656
RICHARD: I couldn't put my finger on it,
311
00:27:32,739 --> 00:27:35,450
why I thought something had happened.
312
00:27:36,618 --> 00:27:41,665
And I started to think, "Is one
of them dead, or both of them?"
313
00:27:42,415 --> 00:27:44,167
Even if one of them's dead,
314
00:27:44,251 --> 00:27:45,836
not, "Which one do I want to be dead,"
315
00:27:45,919 --> 00:27:49,089
but, "If one comes back,
who do I want it to be?"
316
00:27:51,258 --> 00:27:53,510
It's kind of quite cold to say it
317
00:27:53,593 --> 00:27:56,304
but I guess I would rather
it had been Simon.
318
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,103
I thought, "oh, he's not leaving."
319
00:28:08,608 --> 00:28:10,026
SIMON: I'd calmed down a bit
320
00:28:10,110 --> 00:28:13,029
and managed to focus myself again
321
00:28:13,113 --> 00:28:15,699
to think about
how we were going to get...
322
00:28:15,782 --> 00:28:18,577
How I was going to get him
down the mountain.
323
00:28:20,495 --> 00:28:23,790
We discussed between us
what we were gonna have to do.
324
00:28:24,416 --> 00:28:27,377
JOE: We thought, "We've got two
ropes that are 150 feet long
325
00:28:27,460 --> 00:28:29,880
"and if we tie them together
we've got a 300-foot rope. "
326
00:28:32,173 --> 00:28:34,718
So I tied to one end
and Simon tied to the other.
327
00:28:34,801 --> 00:28:37,470
In theory, he could
lower me down 300 feet.
328
00:28:42,058 --> 00:28:44,561
SIMON: Couldn't really get
anchors to lower him from,
329
00:28:44,644 --> 00:28:48,106
but it didn't matter,
I cut a bucket in the snow
330
00:28:48,189 --> 00:28:50,108
and sat in that and braced myself
331
00:28:50,191 --> 00:28:53,945
JOE: And I sort of lay down
between his legs.
332
00:28:54,029 --> 00:28:55,280
okay, let's go.
333
00:28:55,363 --> 00:28:57,991
JOE: And Simon started lowering me.
334
00:29:01,745 --> 00:29:03,413
(GROANING)
335
00:29:03,496 --> 00:29:07,292
SIMON: I'd lower him
one rope length, 150 feet,
336
00:29:07,375 --> 00:29:10,003
and then the knot would come up
between the two ropes.
337
00:29:10,086 --> 00:29:13,298
Now the knots would not
go through the belay plates.
338
00:29:13,381 --> 00:29:14,925
JOE: So he would stop me,
339
00:29:15,008 --> 00:29:17,802
I would stand on my left leg,
my good leg,
340
00:29:17,886 --> 00:29:19,930
so that I could
get the weight off the rope.
341
00:29:20,013 --> 00:29:23,141
It gave him enough slack
to unclip the rope,
342
00:29:23,224 --> 00:29:25,769
thread the rope back through
the lowering device
343
00:29:25,852 --> 00:29:28,146
with a knot on the other side,
344
00:29:28,229 --> 00:29:32,067
clip it back to himself and
lower me the remaining 150 feet.
345
00:29:39,699 --> 00:29:42,202
SIMON: He'd make himself
reasonably secure
346
00:29:42,285 --> 00:29:44,287
and I'd down climb to join him,
347
00:29:44,371 --> 00:29:46,873
and we'd repeat the process again.
348
00:29:48,959 --> 00:29:50,752
(SCREAMING)
349
00:29:50,835 --> 00:29:52,712
JOE: Simon was trying to lower me fast
350
00:29:52,796 --> 00:29:56,299
and it meant that my foot kept
jabbing in and bending the knee.
351
00:29:56,383 --> 00:29:58,593
(SCREAMING)
352
00:29:58,677 --> 00:30:01,137
Excruciatingly painful.
353
00:30:01,221 --> 00:30:02,973
I can remember feeling angry with him
354
00:30:03,056 --> 00:30:06,017
because he was hurting me.
I was thinking, "Do it slower."
355
00:30:06,101 --> 00:30:08,645
I also knew that
he had to do it this fast,
356
00:30:08,728 --> 00:30:11,231
he hadn't got a choice.
357
00:30:12,107 --> 00:30:13,233
And he was very grim-faced.
358
00:30:13,316 --> 00:30:16,194
I remember looking at him, you know,
359
00:30:17,696 --> 00:30:20,198
wondering if he was pissed off
with the whole thing.
360
00:30:20,281 --> 00:30:22,409
(SCREAMING)
361
00:30:22,492 --> 00:30:26,287
SIMON: I couldn't take
too much notice, unfortunately,
362
00:30:26,371 --> 00:30:27,414
of these cries of pain
363
00:30:27,497 --> 00:30:31,126
because we'd got to go down.
364
00:30:36,256 --> 00:30:38,633
JOE: We would dig these holes
for him to sit in,
365
00:30:38,717 --> 00:30:39,884
in the powder snow,
366
00:30:39,968 --> 00:30:41,219
and they would last
367
00:30:41,302 --> 00:30:43,847
about the length of time
it took to lower me.
368
00:30:43,930 --> 00:30:46,725
They were crumbling around him,
369
00:30:46,808 --> 00:30:50,687
and he was lowering me on an
8.8 millimetre rope, that thick,
370
00:30:50,770 --> 00:30:53,481
with hands that were frozen.
371
00:30:53,565 --> 00:30:55,233
What he did was extraordinary.
372
00:30:55,316 --> 00:30:56,401
I've never heard of
373
00:30:56,484 --> 00:30:59,863
any single-handed
mountain rescue like that.
374
00:31:09,372 --> 00:31:11,416
(WIND HOWLING)
375
00:31:14,002 --> 00:31:15,795
We're now lowering in a full storm.
376
00:31:15,879 --> 00:31:17,630
I don't know
what the wind chill factor was,
377
00:31:17,714 --> 00:31:21,051
but it would be like minus 80
or something like that.
378
00:31:21,134 --> 00:31:23,511
I had lost a pint and a half
of blood into my leg,
379
00:31:23,595 --> 00:31:26,056
I was in shock and severely dehydrated.
380
00:31:27,474 --> 00:31:29,893
It was a point where
we should've dug a snow cave
381
00:31:29,976 --> 00:31:31,311
and taken shelter,
382
00:31:31,394 --> 00:31:33,813
got in our sleeping bags
and made a hot brew
383
00:31:33,897 --> 00:31:35,231
and rehydrated.
384
00:31:36,649 --> 00:31:38,777
We couldn't 'cause we'd run out of gas.
385
00:31:38,860 --> 00:31:41,029
And we just lost control at this point
386
00:31:41,112 --> 00:31:43,073
because we couldn't dig a snow cave
387
00:31:43,156 --> 00:31:46,367
and risk getting trapped
by a storm that didn't break.
388
00:32:43,591 --> 00:32:45,677
It was all starting to look up
in many ways at that point
389
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,012
because we were virtually down.
390
00:32:54,435 --> 00:32:56,604
And I started this lower thinking,
391
00:32:56,688 --> 00:33:00,275
"After this we'll have one more
and we'll be on the glacier. "
392
00:33:02,569 --> 00:33:05,405
Suddenly it all got hard
under my elbows, like icy,
393
00:33:05,488 --> 00:33:06,948
and it got steeper,
394
00:33:07,031 --> 00:33:09,450
it suddenly gets steeper.
395
00:33:09,534 --> 00:33:11,578
And I just was full of alarm.
396
00:33:11,661 --> 00:33:13,997
(SCREAMING)
397
00:33:14,747 --> 00:33:16,291
Simon, slow down!
398
00:33:16,374 --> 00:33:19,586
JOE: I was screaming at Simon
to stop as loud as I could
399
00:33:19,669 --> 00:33:21,921
and he just couldn't hear me.
400
00:33:23,131 --> 00:33:27,343
(SCREAMING)
401
00:33:29,053 --> 00:33:31,222
(GRUNTS)
402
00:33:33,975 --> 00:33:36,853
SIMON: I did notice that
more weight came onto the rope
403
00:33:37,896 --> 00:33:39,981
but didn't really think a lot about this
404
00:33:40,064 --> 00:33:44,402
and I just thought, "Well,
he's going over some steeper ground. "
405
00:33:44,485 --> 00:33:46,029
JOE: I'd looked down
406
00:33:46,112 --> 00:33:50,533
and I'd glimpsed that there was
a big drop underneath me.
407
00:33:50,617 --> 00:33:53,786
I was horrified
to discover what I'd gone over.
408
00:33:55,413 --> 00:33:57,790
I could clearly see a large crevasse
409
00:33:57,874 --> 00:34:01,669
directly under the cliff
about 80 feet below me.
410
00:34:04,964 --> 00:34:05,965
I was trying to get my axes
411
00:34:06,049 --> 00:34:09,219
to see if I could reach this wall.
412
00:34:09,302 --> 00:34:12,180
I think it was almost as
I started to try and do that
413
00:34:12,263 --> 00:34:15,099
I started being lowered again.
414
00:34:15,183 --> 00:34:16,726
And I was thinking,
"Christ, don't do it, "
415
00:34:16,809 --> 00:34:19,938
'cause I knew that
there wasn't enough rope
416
00:34:20,021 --> 00:34:21,564
to get me to the bottom.
417
00:34:21,648 --> 00:34:23,233
If I couldn't get
my weight off the rope
418
00:34:23,316 --> 00:34:25,068
he couldn't disconnect the rope
419
00:34:25,151 --> 00:34:28,780
and I knew all this and I was
screaming again not to lower me.
420
00:34:28,863 --> 00:34:32,575
I carried on lowering him
until I reached the knot
421
00:34:32,659 --> 00:34:33,993
then tugged at the rope,
422
00:34:34,077 --> 00:34:37,205
my signal to him
to take the weight off the rope.
423
00:34:40,041 --> 00:34:41,834
And nothing happened.
424
00:34:43,211 --> 00:34:45,797
And nothing continued to happen.
425
00:35:13,866 --> 00:35:15,952
JOE: I knew
that the only way out of this
426
00:35:16,035 --> 00:35:18,579
is if I could climb up the rope.
427
00:35:33,219 --> 00:35:35,972
I had two Prusik loops,
428
00:35:36,055 --> 00:35:38,349
thin cords of rope,
429
00:35:39,267 --> 00:35:42,478
and if you use a special
twisting knot on the rope
430
00:35:42,562 --> 00:35:44,522
you can slide it up the rope,
pull on it
431
00:35:44,605 --> 00:35:46,316
and the knot grips the rope.
432
00:35:46,399 --> 00:35:48,276
Clip a snap link to it and a swing to it
433
00:35:48,359 --> 00:35:49,485
and you can stand up.
434
00:35:49,569 --> 00:35:53,531
If you've got another one tied
above it, you slide that one up,
435
00:35:53,614 --> 00:35:56,159
stand in this loop that's now higher...
436
00:36:06,586 --> 00:36:08,713
I was trying to hold myself upright
437
00:36:08,796 --> 00:36:10,548
to keep the rope in place
438
00:36:10,631 --> 00:36:12,925
and then trying to
put this knot through itself
439
00:36:13,009 --> 00:36:15,553
And this fiddly bloody rope,
440
00:36:15,636 --> 00:36:17,764
it's hard to describe
how I couldn't do it
441
00:36:17,847 --> 00:36:20,350
because I just couldn't
feel my fingers at all.
442
00:36:20,433 --> 00:36:23,978
I'd be looking at it and trying
to push it in using my teeth
443
00:36:24,062 --> 00:36:26,647
and getting it round
and getting it round.
444
00:36:32,528 --> 00:36:34,864
SIMON: My hands were cold, my feet...
445
00:36:34,947 --> 00:36:36,866
I was very, very cold.
446
00:36:36,949 --> 00:36:40,453
And, of course,
you sat there, you don't warm up.
447
00:36:40,536 --> 00:36:44,374
It was a desperate position
made worse by the fact I'd no idea
448
00:36:44,457 --> 00:36:47,460
what Joe was doing
or what position he was in.
449
00:36:48,961 --> 00:36:53,257
I just couldn't figure out
why it was taking him so long
450
00:36:53,341 --> 00:36:55,009
to get his weight off the rope,
451
00:36:55,093 --> 00:36:57,720
there was no sensible
explanation for it.
452
00:36:57,804 --> 00:36:58,888
Joe!
453
00:37:04,310 --> 00:37:06,896
JOE: I got one on
and I clipped it to my chest
454
00:37:06,979 --> 00:37:09,065
because that would keep me upright.
455
00:37:09,148 --> 00:37:10,274
I tried to put the other one on
456
00:37:10,358 --> 00:37:12,902
and I was having
real trouble with my hands.
457
00:37:21,994 --> 00:37:25,373
And I dropped the bloody thing
and I watched it fall.
458
00:37:27,250 --> 00:37:29,752
I knew that I was stuffed then.
459
00:37:32,296 --> 00:37:34,882
I just thought,
"Well, I can't climb the rope. "
460
00:37:34,966 --> 00:37:37,760
This idea that you can climb
a rope hand over hand, you can't,
461
00:37:37,844 --> 00:37:40,430
especially if your hands are
frozen, you just can't do it.
462
00:37:50,189 --> 00:37:52,316
There's nothing I can do.
463
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,527
I felt completely helpless.
464
00:37:54,944 --> 00:37:56,779
And really angry.
465
00:38:08,374 --> 00:38:09,917
SIMON: There was nothing I could do.
466
00:38:10,001 --> 00:38:12,336
I couldn't get the weight off the rope,
467
00:38:12,420 --> 00:38:13,963
I was just there.
468
00:38:14,046 --> 00:38:16,924
This went on
for maybe an hour and a half
469
00:38:17,008 --> 00:38:20,344
during which time my position
became more and more desperate.
470
00:38:20,428 --> 00:38:22,763
I was struggling to maintain this seat.
471
00:38:22,847 --> 00:38:27,310
This sugary seat
that I was sat in, in the snow
472
00:38:27,393 --> 00:38:30,104
was gradually sliding away
from under me.
473
00:38:33,566 --> 00:38:37,028
So my position was just getting...
474
00:38:37,111 --> 00:38:39,238
It was getting desperate, really.
475
00:38:39,322 --> 00:38:40,573
Joe!
476
00:38:45,620 --> 00:38:48,581
JOE: I think, psychologically,
I was beaten.
477
00:38:50,041 --> 00:38:51,876
There was nothing I could do
478
00:38:51,959 --> 00:38:54,754
so I just hung on the rope
and waited to die.
479
00:38:57,215 --> 00:39:00,510
I think I would've died
pretty soon, actually.
480
00:39:00,593 --> 00:39:02,762
The wind chill was very low.
481
00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:10,269
(CRACKLING)
482
00:39:15,441 --> 00:39:18,069
SIMON: I was literally
going down the mountain
483
00:39:18,152 --> 00:39:20,238
in little jerky stages
484
00:39:20,321 --> 00:39:25,493
as this soft, sugary snow
collapsed away underneath me.
485
00:39:26,494 --> 00:39:28,037
JOE: I was expecting him to come off,
486
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,540
and I couldn't do anything about it.
487
00:39:30,623 --> 00:39:33,417
He was gonna fall about 300 feet.
488
00:39:33,501 --> 00:39:37,046
You know, 150 feet away from me,
he was gonna fall double that.
489
00:39:37,129 --> 00:39:38,756
He was gonna die.
490
00:39:41,133 --> 00:39:42,593
He really didn't know
491
00:39:42,677 --> 00:39:44,887
whether I was 10 foot off the
ground, one foot off the ground,
492
00:39:44,971 --> 00:39:46,430
he just didn't know.
493
00:39:46,514 --> 00:39:49,850
But he knew pretty certainly
that he was gonna die.
494
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,982
SIMON: Then I remembered
495
00:39:56,065 --> 00:39:59,652
that I'd got a penknife,
and it was in my rucksack.
496
00:40:01,362 --> 00:40:05,157
I took the decision
pretty quickly, really.
497
00:40:05,950 --> 00:40:08,160
To me, it just seemed
the right thing to do
498
00:40:08,244 --> 00:40:10,329
under the circumstances.
499
00:40:14,834 --> 00:40:17,128
Because there was no way
that I could've...
500
00:40:17,211 --> 00:40:19,338
I couldn't maintain where I was.
501
00:40:19,422 --> 00:40:23,676
Sooner or later, I was going
to be pulled from the mountain.
502
00:40:26,053 --> 00:40:27,471
I took the rucksack off
503
00:40:27,555 --> 00:40:29,473
and managed to unzip
the top pocket with one hand
504
00:40:29,557 --> 00:40:31,517
and get the penknife out.
505
00:40:49,702 --> 00:40:50,703
(EXCLAIMS)
506
00:41:01,464 --> 00:41:03,549
(GASPING)
507
00:41:08,846 --> 00:41:10,723
(WIND HOWLING)
508
00:41:28,199 --> 00:41:30,159
SIMON: It was an awful night.
509
00:41:30,242 --> 00:41:33,996
My mind was plagued with the thoughts
of what had happened to Joe.
510
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,749
It took a long time to warm myself up.
511
00:41:36,832 --> 00:41:41,337
Really, I didn't properly,
I guess. I had a very cold night.
512
00:41:46,759 --> 00:41:50,971
The overriding memory was
feeling desperately thirsty.
513
00:41:51,055 --> 00:41:52,306
To the point where I felt
514
00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:56,143
I could smell the water
in the snow around me.
515
00:41:56,227 --> 00:41:57,937
I felt that very strongly.
516
00:41:58,604 --> 00:42:00,731
It was quite a strange thing.
517
00:42:29,176 --> 00:42:31,762
(GASPS)
518
00:42:54,785 --> 00:42:57,329
JOE: I didn't know
what had happened.
519
00:42:57,413 --> 00:43:00,082
What I'd landed on wasn't flat,
it was sloped on each side
520
00:43:00,166 --> 00:43:02,626
and I was sliding in the dark.
521
00:43:08,340 --> 00:43:12,678
I think I must have fallen
about 150 feet in total.
522
00:43:12,928 --> 00:43:15,347
I was pretty surprised to be alive.
523
00:43:31,030 --> 00:43:33,783
The head torch beam
just went down and down
524
00:43:33,866 --> 00:43:36,535
and the darkness just ate it,
it was just gone.
525
00:43:38,746 --> 00:43:42,249
I felt very unnerved,
very, very vulnerable.
526
00:43:42,333 --> 00:43:46,378
If I'd landed two or three feet
further to the right,
527
00:43:46,462 --> 00:43:49,673
I would’ve just gone down
this huge hole.
528
00:43:50,508 --> 00:43:51,926
(GRUNTS)
529
00:43:52,676 --> 00:43:56,055
I got this ice screw in pretty quickly.
530
00:44:04,396 --> 00:44:07,983
And then looked around, thinking,
531
00:44:08,067 --> 00:44:12,947
"Jesus, it's gonna be nearly
impossible to get out of."
532
00:44:13,030 --> 00:44:14,573
(PANTING)
533
00:44:20,871 --> 00:44:23,290
My rope was going
all the way up 80 feet
534
00:44:23,374 --> 00:44:25,251
up to this small entry hole.
535
00:44:25,334 --> 00:44:28,587
And I thought,
"Simon's on the end of that. "
536
00:44:31,423 --> 00:44:33,843
But I... I just felt sure he was dead.
537
00:44:33,926 --> 00:44:35,261
And it didn't mean anything, really.
538
00:44:35,344 --> 00:44:37,471
I just thought,
"If I pull on this rope,
539
00:44:37,555 --> 00:44:39,181
"it'll come tight on his body."
540
00:44:39,265 --> 00:44:41,767
'Cause he would've flown off the cliff
541
00:44:41,851 --> 00:44:44,103
onto the down side of the crevasse
542
00:44:44,186 --> 00:44:46,939
and then, lying dead there
like a counterweight,
543
00:44:47,022 --> 00:44:50,943
the rope would've come back up
and then dropped into the crevasse.
544
00:44:51,026 --> 00:44:53,612
So I thought, "If I pull on this rope,
it'll come tight on his body."
545
00:45:10,129 --> 00:45:13,883
And it just kept coming
and kept coming and kept coming.
546
00:45:28,731 --> 00:45:32,318
As soon as I saw it,
I knew it had been cut.
547
00:45:40,993 --> 00:45:43,621
I thought, "You're gonna die in here. "
548
00:45:46,540 --> 00:45:52,129
I had a pleased feeling
that it meant Simon was alive.
549
00:45:54,465 --> 00:45:57,009
Simon!
550
00:45:59,386 --> 00:46:00,638
Simon!
551
00:46:00,721 --> 00:46:03,015
(WIND HOWLING)
552
00:46:09,021 --> 00:46:12,441
Looking at where I was,
it was an awful prospect.
553
00:46:13,359 --> 00:46:15,986
You know, you don't die of a broken leg.
554
00:46:16,070 --> 00:46:17,863
(GASPING)
555
00:46:27,289 --> 00:46:31,377
I think I did turn my head
torch off to save the batteries.
556
00:46:45,808 --> 00:46:48,727
It was dark, and it began to get to me.
557
00:46:58,862 --> 00:47:01,407
There is something about crevasses.
558
00:47:02,366 --> 00:47:04,994
They have a dread feel,
559
00:47:05,077 --> 00:47:07,079
not a place for the living.
560
00:47:14,378 --> 00:47:20,759
I could hear the ice cracking
and wind noises in the ice.
561
00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:24,847
I turned the light on again
562
00:47:24,930 --> 00:47:27,516
'cause I didn't like it in the dark.
563
00:47:28,350 --> 00:47:32,104
(BREATHING HEAVILY)
564
00:47:40,571 --> 00:47:43,323
I felt very, very alone.
565
00:47:45,617 --> 00:47:48,328
And I was very scared.
566
00:47:48,412 --> 00:47:50,372
(CRACKING)
567
00:47:50,456 --> 00:47:54,543
I was also...
I was 2 5, you know.
568
00:47:54,626 --> 00:47:56,086
I was fit.
569
00:47:56,628 --> 00:47:59,131
I was super ambitious. And...
570
00:47:59,923 --> 00:48:03,343
And this was the first trip we'd been
on, and I wanted to climb the world.
571
00:48:03,427 --> 00:48:05,429
And it just didn't seem...
572
00:48:05,888 --> 00:48:08,348
This hadn't been part of our game plan.
573
00:48:14,354 --> 00:48:16,315
It must have been quite late.
574
00:48:16,398 --> 00:48:21,320
I think that I pretty much was
thinking I wasn't gonna get out.
575
00:48:24,156 --> 00:48:25,407
(SCOFFS)
576
00:48:25,491 --> 00:48:28,118
Stupid. Stupid.
577
00:48:30,829 --> 00:48:32,498
Stupid.
578
00:48:33,082 --> 00:48:35,125
Stupid!
579
00:48:37,169 --> 00:48:39,004
Stupid!
580
00:48:41,006 --> 00:48:42,382
Stupid!
581
00:48:42,966 --> 00:48:44,843
Stupid!
582
00:48:46,345 --> 00:48:47,554
Stupid!
583
00:48:48,555 --> 00:48:49,848
(SOBS)
584
00:48:56,021 --> 00:48:57,856
Fuck!
585
00:48:58,148 --> 00:49:00,234
Fuck!
586
00:49:04,530 --> 00:49:05,948
Fuck!
587
00:49:06,031 --> 00:49:09,493
JOE: As a climber
you should always be in control.
588
00:49:09,576 --> 00:49:10,911
You have to be in control.
589
00:49:10,994 --> 00:49:14,623
So doing that could be seen as
a mark of failure. You've lost it.
590
00:49:14,706 --> 00:49:17,459
Fuck! Fuck! You cunt!
591
00:49:17,543 --> 00:49:21,004
You fucking, fucking...
You fucking cunt!
592
00:49:21,630 --> 00:49:23,257
You cunt!
593
00:49:23,799 --> 00:49:25,092
Cunt!
594
00:49:26,135 --> 00:49:28,428
(SOBS)
595
00:49:38,355 --> 00:49:41,358
It was just childish.
I just cried and cried.
596
00:49:41,441 --> 00:49:43,318
I thought...
597
00:49:44,403 --> 00:49:46,321
I thought I was...
598
00:49:46,905 --> 00:49:48,699
That I'd be tougher than that.
599
00:50:20,105 --> 00:50:23,567
It was getting lighter,
so it was 5:00 or 6:00.
600
00:50:25,152 --> 00:50:27,529
And I started screaming
Simon's name again.
601
00:50:27,613 --> 00:50:29,698
Simon!
602
00:50:34,494 --> 00:50:36,663
I got myself up,
603
00:50:36,747 --> 00:50:40,500
got dressed inside the snow hole
and packed everything away.
604
00:50:44,504 --> 00:50:46,798
There was just a horrible
feeling of dread.
605
00:50:46,882 --> 00:50:48,759
By this stage I strongly felt
606
00:50:48,842 --> 00:50:51,470
that Joe had been
killed the previous day
607
00:50:51,553 --> 00:50:53,597
and that now I was going to die
608
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:58,310
as some sort of, form of,
you know, retribution.
609
00:51:00,812 --> 00:51:04,900
But rather than just sit here
feeling sorry for myself,
610
00:51:04,983 --> 00:51:09,321
I'll get on with it
and I'll die on the way down.
611
00:51:13,158 --> 00:51:15,327
Very quickly
the ground dropped away steeply
612
00:51:15,410 --> 00:51:19,164
so I skirted around
this area of steeper ground.
613
00:51:26,672 --> 00:51:29,675
As I abseiled down, I could
see this overhanging ice cliff,
614
00:51:30,509 --> 00:51:32,427
which is what I had lowered him over
615
00:51:32,511 --> 00:51:35,180
so I knew that he'd have
been hanging in space,
616
00:51:35,264 --> 00:51:38,141
which is the reason he couldn't
get his weight off the rope.
617
00:51:41,436 --> 00:51:42,771
As I went down lower,
618
00:51:42,854 --> 00:51:45,732
I could see to my horror,
at the base of this ice cliff
619
00:51:45,816 --> 00:51:48,193
was an absolutely enormous crevasse.
620
00:51:50,153 --> 00:51:51,905
About 30 feet wide
621
00:51:51,989 --> 00:51:55,534
and just bottomless
from where I was looking at it.
622
00:52:01,581 --> 00:52:03,500
JOE: Simon!
623
00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:06,712
JOE: He would've been
up at first light, I thought.
624
00:52:06,795 --> 00:52:10,173
'Cause I was desperately thirsty,
and he would've been,
625
00:52:10,257 --> 00:52:13,385
and he would've wanted to
get down and get water.
626
00:52:14,344 --> 00:52:16,346
And he would've wanted to find me.
627
00:52:17,139 --> 00:52:20,684
Now, I did stop and pause
and I shouted into the crevasse.
628
00:52:20,767 --> 00:52:23,437
I yelled and yelled
and yelled, "Joe! Joe!"
629
00:52:25,063 --> 00:52:28,775
And I suppose again,
with the benefit of hindsight,
630
00:52:28,859 --> 00:52:30,944
after I'd got off the rope,
631
00:52:31,028 --> 00:52:34,239
I should've gone
and looked into the crevasse
632
00:52:34,323 --> 00:52:36,325
to see where he was.
633
00:52:36,408 --> 00:52:39,411
But to be quite honest,
634
00:52:39,494 --> 00:52:43,248
the thought didn't occur to me
at that time.
635
00:52:43,582 --> 00:52:46,043
I was just convinced he was dead.
636
00:52:51,089 --> 00:52:52,758
Simon!
637
00:52:54,217 --> 00:52:57,846
JOE: Absolutely convinced by 10:00,
totally convinced,
638
00:52:57,929 --> 00:52:59,890
that I was on my own,
639
00:53:00,223 --> 00:53:03,602
that no one was coming to get me.
640
00:53:08,940 --> 00:53:11,777
I was brought up
as a devout Catholic.
641
00:53:12,402 --> 00:53:15,197
I had long since
stopped believing in God.
642
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:19,034
I always wondered,
if things really hit the fan,
643
00:53:19,117 --> 00:53:23,872
whether I would, under pressure,
turn round and say a few Hail Marys
644
00:53:23,955 --> 00:53:26,416
and say, "Get me out of here."
645
00:53:27,459 --> 00:53:29,586
It never once occurred to me.
646
00:53:31,129 --> 00:53:33,382
It meant that I really don't believe.
647
00:53:33,715 --> 00:53:36,218
And I really do think
that when you die, you die.
648
00:53:36,301 --> 00:53:38,303
That's it. There's no afterlife.
649
00:53:38,387 --> 00:53:39,638
There's nothing.
650
00:53:45,644 --> 00:53:48,230
And I was thinking,
"Could I climb out of here?"
651
00:54:28,728 --> 00:54:30,272
(CRIES OUT IN PAIN)
652
00:54:34,276 --> 00:54:36,194
(SCREAMS)
653
00:54:36,278 --> 00:54:37,863
80 foot of overhanging ice?
654
00:54:37,946 --> 00:54:40,031
No way.
I couldn't do it with a good leg.
655
00:54:44,161 --> 00:54:46,496
RICHARD: I knew
that they were both dead.
656
00:54:46,580 --> 00:54:50,834
But I couldn't just
clear off and leave the camp.
657
00:54:50,917 --> 00:54:53,795
For one thing,
I didn't know anything about them
658
00:54:53,879 --> 00:54:56,339
except for their first names,
Joe and Simon.
659
00:54:56,882 --> 00:55:00,385
I didn't know their family names.
I really knew nothing about them.
660
00:55:00,844 --> 00:55:04,556
And I had this bizarre idea that
if they'd fallen off the mountain,
661
00:55:04,973 --> 00:55:07,767
they would have just landed
at the bottom of it.
662
00:55:08,518 --> 00:55:11,396
And I thought perhaps that
from the bottom of the glacier,
663
00:55:11,563 --> 00:55:13,398
I'd be able to see them.
664
00:55:14,065 --> 00:55:18,570
And set off with the aim
of going as far as I could.
665
00:55:21,031 --> 00:55:23,825
SIMON: I started to go down
the glacier on my own.
666
00:55:24,284 --> 00:55:27,746
And at this stage, I was still certain
that I was going to die myself
667
00:55:29,623 --> 00:55:33,001
Crossing a glacier is very,
very dangerous on your own,
668
00:55:33,418 --> 00:55:37,255
because there are crevasses in the ice,
and the snow covers them.
669
00:55:38,965 --> 00:55:42,260
Fortunately, I managed to find
a faint outline of our tracks,
670
00:55:42,344 --> 00:55:44,095
from when we walked in.
671
00:55:45,597 --> 00:55:49,643
As it was only
when I got off the glacier
672
00:55:49,768 --> 00:55:54,189
I realised that I was gonna
get down and I was gonna get out of it,
673
00:55:54,272 --> 00:55:56,233
I was gonna live.
674
00:56:08,828 --> 00:56:13,792
JOE: I can't really describe
how scary the night had been.
675
00:56:18,421 --> 00:56:21,967
I thought,
"It'll be like that for days. "
676
00:56:25,136 --> 00:56:28,223
You've got to make decisions,
keep making decisions,
677
00:56:28,306 --> 00:56:31,309
even if they're wrong decisions,
you know.
678
00:56:33,103 --> 00:56:35,564
If you don't make decisions,
you're stuffed.
679
00:56:54,374 --> 00:56:56,334
JOE: Short of dying
on the ledge,
680
00:56:56,418 --> 00:57:01,464
my only chance was to lower
myself deeper into the crevasse.
681
00:57:03,883 --> 00:57:06,595
I didn't know
what I would find down there.
682
00:57:06,678 --> 00:57:11,224
I was just hoping
there might be some way out
683
00:57:11,308 --> 00:57:13,977
in the labyrinth of ice and snow.
684
00:57:16,688 --> 00:57:19,608
I really struggled
to make that decision.
685
00:57:19,691 --> 00:57:21,693
I was so scared of going deeper.
686
00:57:23,069 --> 00:57:25,071
(PANTING)
687
00:57:32,537 --> 00:57:34,873
The other option was just to sit there,
688
00:57:34,956 --> 00:57:37,292
blindly hoping
that somehow it might get better
689
00:57:37,375 --> 00:57:39,711
and I just knew
it wasn't going to get better.
690
00:57:51,473 --> 00:57:54,059
(PANTING)
691
00:58:08,740 --> 00:58:11,159
I didn't want to look down.
692
00:58:11,910 --> 00:58:16,247
I was horrified at the thought
it was just empty down there.
693
00:58:30,804 --> 00:58:32,806
(GRUNTS)
694
00:58:33,932 --> 00:58:36,601
I didn't put a knot
in the end of the rope.
695
00:58:36,935 --> 00:58:38,520
If there was nothing down there,
696
00:58:38,603 --> 00:58:40,522
I wouldn't be able to hold the rope
697
00:58:40,605 --> 00:58:43,566
and then I would fall,
it would be quick.
698
00:58:43,900 --> 00:58:44,901
Fuck!
699
00:59:05,797 --> 00:59:08,258
I thought, "Jesus, this is big. "
700
00:59:15,140 --> 00:59:17,475
(PANTING)
701
00:59:20,186 --> 00:59:25,191
By this stage, I was
completely physically done in,
702
00:59:25,275 --> 00:59:28,611
staggering back down these moraines,
still desperately thirsty.
703
00:59:30,864 --> 00:59:33,408
There were all these thoughts
swirling around in my mind,
704
00:59:33,491 --> 00:59:37,954
guilt, worry, thinking about how
on earth I'm gonna explain this
705
00:59:38,037 --> 00:59:41,833
to Joe's parents, my friends,
to Richard.
706
00:59:44,919 --> 00:59:46,504
The thought did cross my mind
707
00:59:46,588 --> 00:59:48,757
that maybe I could think up
a decent story
708
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,884
that would make me look better.
709
00:59:53,219 --> 00:59:56,181
And I did think about that
for quite a while.
710
01:00:04,022 --> 01:00:06,608
RICHARD: The only image
that sticks in my mind
711
01:00:06,691 --> 01:00:08,526
from all the time in Peru
712
01:00:09,194 --> 01:00:12,071
is seeing this figure.
713
01:00:12,530 --> 01:00:17,494
And it was fairly close
before I could see who it was.
714
01:00:20,663 --> 01:00:23,208
But he looked absolutely horrendous.
715
01:00:24,292 --> 01:00:26,252
You wouldn't recognise him.
716
01:00:30,340 --> 01:00:33,551
And I said, "Where’s Joe?"
717
01:00:34,135 --> 01:00:36,304
And he just said, "Joe's dead. "
718
01:00:37,013 --> 01:00:39,098
I told him the whole story.
719
01:00:39,182 --> 01:00:40,850
As we walked back to the camp
720
01:00:40,934 --> 01:00:45,313
I told him the whole story
of what had happened.
721
01:00:45,396 --> 01:00:50,693
He wasn't
in the slightest bit judgemental
722
01:00:50,777 --> 01:00:53,988
about me or what I'd done.
723
01:00:54,072 --> 01:00:56,241
He took it very well.
724
01:01:08,711 --> 01:01:10,380
(ICE SHATTERING)
725
01:01:12,632 --> 01:01:17,011
JOE: I must have
lowered myself about 80 feet
726
01:01:17,512 --> 01:01:21,099
from where the ice screw was
at the bridge.
727
01:01:25,103 --> 01:01:27,230
I was now in the base of..
728
01:01:27,313 --> 01:01:29,691
Seemed to be in the base of a crevasse
729
01:01:29,774 --> 01:01:31,568
that was shaped like a big hourglass.
730
01:01:31,651 --> 01:01:34,112
To the ceiling was about 160 feet.
731
01:01:35,113 --> 01:01:38,783
I think it's as big as
St. Paul's dome in scale.
732
01:01:41,995 --> 01:01:43,329
I remember looking down
733
01:01:43,413 --> 01:01:46,040
and there was solid snow,
734
01:01:46,124 --> 01:01:49,627
and I thought, "This is
the bottom of the crevasse. "
735
01:01:55,466 --> 01:02:00,471
About 50 feet away from me
there was a slope leading up.
736
01:02:01,055 --> 01:02:02,390
And right at the top,
737
01:02:02,473 --> 01:02:04,851
there was this sun
coming through this hole.
738
01:02:04,934 --> 01:02:06,561
And...
739
01:02:06,644 --> 01:02:10,690
It was shining, there was this
big beam of sunlight coming in.
740
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,946
This was the way out
I'd been looking for.
741
01:02:20,742 --> 01:02:23,745
I remember thinking,
"Whoa, I can climb that slope,
742
01:02:23,828 --> 01:02:25,955
"I bloody well will climb that slope.
743
01:02:27,123 --> 01:02:28,875
"I'll crawl across this flat floor, "
744
01:02:28,958 --> 01:02:31,753
and I started crawling across
on my stomach.
745
01:02:31,836 --> 01:02:33,880
(GRUNTING)
746
01:02:39,552 --> 01:02:41,429
(RUMBLING)
747
01:02:42,972 --> 01:02:46,225
Then I heard things
breaking away underneath me.
748
01:02:48,603 --> 01:02:51,856
I realised that
this wasn't a solid floor.
749
01:02:51,940 --> 01:02:54,400
It seemed to be hollow underneath.
750
01:02:56,694 --> 01:02:58,655
I was absolutely horrified.
751
01:03:02,533 --> 01:03:05,244
It was suddenly as if
I was on an eggshell.
752
01:03:08,289 --> 01:03:12,794
If I break through I'll never be
able to get across to this slope
753
01:03:12,877 --> 01:03:14,295
and that was my way out.
754
01:03:33,106 --> 01:03:36,776
I thought, "Right, I'm on it,
this is solid now. "
755
01:03:42,532 --> 01:03:45,118
I started to get my axes in and hop up.
756
01:03:49,414 --> 01:03:50,415
(GRUNTS)
757
01:03:50,498 --> 01:03:52,166
It was extremely painful.
758
01:03:52,250 --> 01:03:55,378
As your legs hopped up,
they both came down together.
759
01:03:58,423 --> 01:04:00,008
I'd try and get into a body position
760
01:04:00,091 --> 01:04:02,260
so my left foot went in first.
761
01:04:03,469 --> 01:04:06,180
But I inevitably
went onto my broken leg.
762
01:04:06,264 --> 01:04:07,932
(SCREAMS)
763
01:04:08,975 --> 01:04:12,353
I'd feel the displacement go,
the bone move.
764
01:04:12,437 --> 01:04:14,564
At every hop I'd nearly faint.
765
01:04:16,190 --> 01:04:18,943
It was just excruciatingly painful.
766
01:05:14,248 --> 01:05:17,293
JOE: And it was
a bright sunny day.
767
01:05:18,169 --> 01:05:20,797
Wow. The whole world
had just come back.
768
01:05:24,675 --> 01:05:28,179
I was lying on the snow, just laughing.
769
01:05:28,262 --> 01:05:30,431
(LAUGHS)
770
01:05:37,522 --> 01:05:40,483
That was the relief
of getting out of that place.
771
01:05:45,363 --> 01:05:47,740
(LAUGHING)
772
01:05:50,868 --> 01:05:52,245
(SIGHS)
773
01:06:16,185 --> 01:06:17,979
And I then looked at the glacier
774
01:06:18,062 --> 01:06:21,065
and I thought, "Well,
you haven't even started, mate,
775
01:06:21,149 --> 01:06:22,817
"it's miles, it's miles, "
776
01:06:22,900 --> 01:06:25,236
and on really bad ground.
777
01:06:45,089 --> 01:06:47,550
And I think I was contemplating
just sitting there,
778
01:06:47,633 --> 01:06:49,677
because I was coming at this
779
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:53,556
having done the most
serious climb of my life.
780
01:06:53,639 --> 01:06:55,975
If you come down safe
from a climb like that
781
01:06:56,058 --> 01:06:59,812
you'd be exhausted for days,
you'd just eat and drink and sleep.
782
01:07:01,439 --> 01:07:02,940
I'd just come out of that,
783
01:07:03,608 --> 01:07:06,360
I'd badly broken a leg,
784
01:07:06,444 --> 01:07:08,529
I was in great pain,
I was highly dehydrated,
785
01:07:08,613 --> 01:07:09,780
I had no food,
786
01:07:09,864 --> 01:07:12,366
and I was looking at trying to do that.
787
01:07:12,450 --> 01:07:15,453
There's just no way
you're physically gonna do that.
788
01:07:16,829 --> 01:07:18,206
Then it occurred to me
789
01:07:18,289 --> 01:07:22,168
that maybe I should
set definite targets.
790
01:07:24,128 --> 01:07:26,756
I started to look at things and think,
791
01:07:26,839 --> 01:07:30,051
"Right, if I can get to that crevasse
over there in 20 minutes,
792
01:07:30,134 --> 01:07:31,969
"that's what I'm gonna do. "
793
01:07:33,638 --> 01:07:38,100
If I got there in 18 minutes,
I was hysterically happy about it
794
01:07:38,184 --> 01:07:40,603
and if I got there in 22 or 24 minutes,
795
01:07:40,686 --> 01:07:42,647
I was upset
almost to the point of tears.
796
01:07:42,730 --> 01:07:44,440
And it became obsessive.
797
01:07:48,653 --> 01:07:50,363
I don't know why I did it.
798
01:07:50,446 --> 01:07:52,406
I think I knew the big picture
799
01:07:52,490 --> 01:07:54,909
of what was happening to me
and what I had to do
800
01:07:54,992 --> 01:07:57,203
was so big I couldn't deal with it.
801
01:08:41,455 --> 01:08:44,583
I stayed on Simon's tracks,
and they were weaving around,
802
01:08:44,667 --> 01:08:47,420
over humps and past
obvious crevasses and stuff
803
01:08:47,503 --> 01:08:51,090
I thought, "Unless I come to
a hole with his body at the bottom,
804
01:08:51,173 --> 01:08:52,883
"these tracks will lead me
805
01:08:52,967 --> 01:08:55,720
"through the minefield of crevasses. "
806
01:09:04,812 --> 01:09:07,273
You've got these huge
mountains around you,
807
01:09:07,356 --> 01:09:09,400
you know, big mountain walls,
808
01:09:10,318 --> 01:09:13,404
and they do make you feel
small and vulnerable
809
01:09:13,487 --> 01:09:17,491
and you wonder whether there's
some sort of malign presence
810
01:09:17,575 --> 01:09:19,660
that's out to get you.
811
01:09:31,422 --> 01:09:34,508
It was like somebody
was just teasing an ant
812
01:09:34,592 --> 01:09:36,677
and putting something
in its way all the time
813
01:09:36,761 --> 01:09:38,763
and was eventually gonna stand on it.
814
01:09:41,140 --> 01:09:43,476
(WIND WHISTLING)
815
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:44,203
I could see that
Simon's tracks were filling in.
816
01:10:44,995 --> 01:10:48,040
They were my lifeline off the glacier.
817
01:10:48,499 --> 01:10:49,583
(GROANS)
818
01:10:49,667 --> 01:10:52,086
And I started to get very desperate.
819
01:11:08,769 --> 01:11:10,604
I carried on crawling in the dark,
820
01:11:10,688 --> 01:11:13,774
which is a stupid thing to do unroped
on a glacier, but I was frightened
821
01:11:13,858 --> 01:11:16,819
and I was just trying
to see Simon's tracks.
822
01:11:39,884 --> 01:11:43,053
In the morning,
it was a bright sunny day.
823
01:11:43,137 --> 01:11:45,097
All the tracks had gone.
824
01:11:53,731 --> 01:11:56,358
And I started quite early.
825
01:11:56,442 --> 01:11:58,319
And every now and then
I had to stand up on one leg
826
01:11:58,402 --> 01:12:00,488
and look around to try and see the way
827
01:12:00,571 --> 01:12:04,575
and then sit down again
and shuffle along.
828
01:12:16,504 --> 01:12:18,214
(GRUNTING)
829
01:12:34,355 --> 01:12:37,858
There was one very horrendously
crevassed bit right near the edge
830
01:12:37,942 --> 01:12:41,111
and I ended up
in a maze of them.
831
01:13:07,972 --> 01:13:11,308
I suddenly came to a point
where I could see ice running down
832
01:13:11,392 --> 01:13:13,394
and then I could see rocks.
833
01:13:17,815 --> 01:13:20,150
(SCREAMS)
834
01:13:24,738 --> 01:13:29,535
RICHARD: It was probably me
that brought up the subject of leaving,
835
01:13:29,618 --> 01:13:31,787
partly 'cause I was
worried about Simon.
836
01:13:31,870 --> 01:13:34,957
I just felt it was best
to get as far away as possible
837
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,001
from where it had happened.
838
01:13:39,753 --> 01:13:42,339
SIMON: I didn't want
to leave immediately,
839
01:13:42,423 --> 01:13:48,095
I felt I needed a day or two
just to collect my thoughts
840
01:13:48,178 --> 01:13:50,764
and to regain some strength, really.
841
01:13:57,605 --> 01:14:01,400
I spent a long time washing myself.
842
01:14:05,863 --> 01:14:08,907
That felt sort of quite good,
to wash my hair
843
01:14:08,991 --> 01:14:12,870
and to wash my face,
to have a shave, to sort of..
844
01:14:13,579 --> 01:14:15,664
Get the...
845
01:14:16,874 --> 01:14:21,045
Get the remnants of the mountain
out of my system, really.
846
01:14:54,078 --> 01:14:55,996
JOE: I was desperately thirsty,
847
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:57,956
because it doesn't matter
how much snow you eat,
848
01:14:58,040 --> 01:14:59,792
you can't get enough
water into your system.
849
01:15:02,002 --> 01:15:05,089
And I saw the rocks, I knew
how big these boulders would be
850
01:15:05,172 --> 01:15:06,423
and how far it was,
851
01:15:06,590 --> 01:15:10,594
and that was the first time I really
thought about whether I could...
852
01:15:10,678 --> 01:15:12,471
Could get the distance.
853
01:15:18,268 --> 01:15:19,937
I got rid of all my gear.
854
01:15:35,953 --> 01:15:38,372
I knew that I couldn't
crawl over these rocks,
855
01:15:38,455 --> 01:15:39,957
they were just too big and jumbled
856
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,793
and the only way to do it
was to try and hop.
857
01:15:45,087 --> 01:15:47,297
So I knew I was gonna fall a lot.
858
01:15:47,381 --> 01:15:48,382
(GRUNTS)
859
01:16:00,436 --> 01:16:01,437
(GRUNTS)
860
01:16:09,611 --> 01:16:11,155
(GROANS)
861
01:16:23,542 --> 01:16:24,710
(SCREAMS)
862
01:16:41,226 --> 01:16:42,227
(WHIMPERS)
863
01:16:42,811 --> 01:16:43,812
(SHOUTS)
864
01:16:45,063 --> 01:16:47,065
I'd fall on virtually every hop,
865
01:16:47,149 --> 01:16:49,735
and it's like having
your leg broken every time.
866
01:16:49,818 --> 01:16:53,363
I remember looking back
at where I'd come from
867
01:16:53,447 --> 01:16:56,283
and it was 25 yards,
and it had taken ages,
868
01:16:56,366 --> 01:16:58,535
and the pain just to get that 25yards.
869
01:17:01,747 --> 01:17:03,874
(SCREAMS)
870
01:17:11,590 --> 01:17:14,384
I can be insanely stubborn,
871
01:17:14,968 --> 01:17:18,847
and I do like to have things my way,
872
01:17:18,931 --> 01:17:23,644
and things were seriously not
going my way over these days.
873
01:17:29,817 --> 01:17:31,401
I'd look at a rock and I'd go,
874
01:17:31,485 --> 01:17:34,530
"Right. Get there in 20 minutes."
875
01:17:35,155 --> 01:17:39,117
once I decided I was going to
get that distance in 20 minutes,
876
01:17:39,201 --> 01:17:40,911
I bloody well was gonna do it.
877
01:17:41,703 --> 01:17:43,413
(GRUNTS)
878
01:17:44,540 --> 01:17:45,707
And it would help me,
879
01:17:45,791 --> 01:17:48,752
because I'd get halfway through
the distance and I'd be in such pain,
880
01:17:49,086 --> 01:17:52,631
I just couldn't bear the thought
of getting up and falling on it again.
881
01:17:53,090 --> 01:17:55,175
But I'd look
at the target and I'd think,
882
01:17:55,259 --> 01:17:56,844
"I've gotta get there."
883
01:18:07,396 --> 01:18:09,690
And I'd think, "I'll just
lie here a bit longer here. "
884
01:18:09,773 --> 01:18:12,943
"No, you've gotta get there!
You've only got ten minutes left. "
885
01:18:16,446 --> 01:18:20,868
It seemed like there was
a very cold, pragmatic part of me
886
01:18:20,951 --> 01:18:23,579
that was saying,
"You have to do this, this and this
887
01:18:23,662 --> 01:18:25,747
"if you're gonna get there."
888
01:18:41,805 --> 01:18:44,433
"Come on, keep moving, keep moving. "
889
01:18:51,815 --> 01:18:53,859
"Right, get up and do it again. "
890
01:19:00,824 --> 01:19:02,576
It was quite insistent
891
01:19:03,744 --> 01:19:05,454
and quite clear.
892
01:19:05,579 --> 01:19:09,416
It was almost like a voice,
or a separate part of me,
893
01:19:09,499 --> 01:19:11,668
telling me to do something.
894
01:19:14,463 --> 01:19:16,590
Very uncaring,
895
01:19:17,090 --> 01:19:18,926
no sympathy, no...
896
01:19:19,009 --> 01:19:22,095
No acknowledgement of the fact
that I might be tired
897
01:19:22,179 --> 01:19:26,350
or hurt or anything like that.
It was very, very odd.
898
01:19:35,025 --> 01:19:35,984
(GRUNTS)
899
01:19:36,068 --> 01:19:41,239
So part of me kept saying,
"Keep moving, stop resting. "
900
01:19:41,323 --> 01:19:43,784
And the other part of me,
my mind anyway,
901
01:19:43,867 --> 01:19:47,454
just was, like, looking around
and absorbing things.
902
01:19:47,537 --> 01:19:51,333
And as the hours went and certainly
as the day started to go,
903
01:19:51,416 --> 01:19:53,585
it became weirder and weirder.
904
01:20:42,843 --> 01:20:46,471
I was very, very, very thirsty,
very dehydrated.
905
01:20:50,767 --> 01:20:54,104
The agonising thing is,
all these boulders, these moraines,
906
01:20:54,187 --> 01:20:56,314
are on top of the glacier
907
01:20:56,398 --> 01:20:59,693
and you could hear water
running all the time.
908
01:20:59,776 --> 01:21:02,279
(WATER DRIPPING)
909
01:21:08,618 --> 01:21:10,579
I'd fall over and I'd hear water
910
01:21:10,662 --> 01:21:13,040
and I'd start digging around
searching for it.
911
01:21:13,749 --> 01:21:15,751
(WATER TRICKLING)
912
01:21:36,897 --> 01:21:39,274
Couldn't find it, couldn't get it.
913
01:21:39,357 --> 01:21:42,736
And it was driving me mad,
to be able to hear water.
914
01:21:44,112 --> 01:21:45,697
(MOANS)
915
01:21:47,115 --> 01:21:49,034
(WATER FLOWING)
916
01:22:08,095 --> 01:22:12,557
RICHARD: I was worried
about Simon, about his health,
917
01:22:12,641 --> 01:22:16,144
because his fingertips were
still quite bad from frostbite.
918
01:22:16,228 --> 01:22:19,815
And I just felt it wasn't
a place to be lingering in.
919
01:22:21,191 --> 01:22:24,611
We just started getting ready
to leave in the morning.
920
01:22:32,244 --> 01:22:34,788
JOE: I did eventually
collapse amid the rocks
921
01:22:34,871 --> 01:22:36,623
and I didn't sleep very well.
922
01:22:36,706 --> 01:22:39,584
My leg was very painful, it was agony.
923
01:22:40,836 --> 01:22:43,380
It was the first night,
I think, it hadn't stormed.
924
01:22:43,463 --> 01:22:45,882
It didn't snow on me and didn't rain
925
01:22:46,633 --> 01:22:49,261
and I could see the stars.
I can remember lying on my back
926
01:22:49,344 --> 01:22:52,806
for what seemed endless periods of time,
927
01:22:52,889 --> 01:22:54,349
staring at the stars.
928
01:22:57,227 --> 01:22:59,437
At one point I had this weird sensation
929
01:22:59,521 --> 01:23:03,483
that I'd lain there conscious
for centuries, for lifetimes,
930
01:23:03,567 --> 01:23:05,402
becoming part of the rocks
931
01:23:05,485 --> 01:23:08,572
and part of where I was
never gonna move from.
932
01:23:30,802 --> 01:23:33,513
The sun came up
and it started to warm me.
933
01:23:33,847 --> 01:23:37,184
And I thought it would be
so nice to just lie there,
934
01:23:37,267 --> 01:23:39,519
don't move and then it won't hurt,
935
01:23:39,603 --> 01:23:43,648
and Christ, I got so,
so close to doing that.
936
01:23:50,697 --> 01:23:53,283
I genuinely believed that
I wouldn't make the distance
937
01:23:53,366 --> 01:23:55,785
and I also believed
that I was going to die.
938
01:23:55,869 --> 01:23:59,122
And I sort of acknowledged it
in a very matter-of-fact way.
939
01:24:03,335 --> 01:24:05,545
And it seemed very irrational
to keep on crawling
940
01:24:05,629 --> 01:24:08,632
if you didn't think
it was gonna be of any good.
941
01:24:08,965 --> 01:24:09,966
(GROANS)
942
01:24:11,384 --> 01:24:13,553
I think that it was that loneliness,
943
01:24:13,637 --> 01:24:16,097
that sense of being abandoned.
944
01:24:16,181 --> 01:24:18,141
It was there all the time.
945
01:24:22,354 --> 01:24:25,565
I didn't crawl because
I thought I would survive,
946
01:24:25,649 --> 01:24:29,069
I think I... I wanted to...
947
01:24:29,152 --> 01:24:31,821
To be with somebody when I died.
948
01:24:58,556 --> 01:25:00,684
SIMON: It was probably
just a symbolic act
949
01:25:00,767 --> 01:25:02,936
to say goodbye to him, really,
950
01:25:03,019 --> 01:25:07,232
in my own mind,
you know, by doing that.
951
01:25:40,140 --> 01:25:42,976
(SLURPING)
952
01:26:02,829 --> 01:26:04,539
(COUGHING)
953
01:26:13,506 --> 01:26:16,259
I drank litres and litres of it.
954
01:26:17,594 --> 01:26:19,512
(COUGHING)
955
01:26:20,388 --> 01:26:23,016
It was just like putting fuel in,
956
01:26:23,099 --> 01:26:26,603
I could feel myself
immediately getting stronger.
957
01:26:35,612 --> 01:26:37,655
(GASPS)
958
01:26:39,324 --> 01:26:40,325
(GROANS)
959
01:27:14,692 --> 01:27:16,361
(GAGS)
960
01:27:16,694 --> 01:27:18,196
(SPITS)
961
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:21,491
(GRUNTS)
962
01:27:34,504 --> 01:27:35,922
I kept wetting myself
963
01:27:36,005 --> 01:27:40,427
and I can remember quite liking
the sensation, the warmth of it.
964
01:27:46,516 --> 01:27:51,646
It was just a slow, steady reduction.
965
01:27:52,021 --> 01:27:55,525
Not just physically,
physically it was very obvious,
966
01:27:55,608 --> 01:27:57,986
but you, everything, yourself
967
01:27:58,069 --> 01:28:01,614
I felt left with nothing, really.
968
01:28:01,698 --> 01:28:03,324
I didn't care anymore.
969
01:28:05,326 --> 01:28:07,454
You didn't have any dignity,
970
01:28:07,537 --> 01:28:11,332
you didn't care whether you were
brave or weak or anything,
971
01:28:11,416 --> 01:28:15,462
you just became almost nothing,
it was strange.
972
01:28:25,388 --> 01:28:28,516
I was still doing
these test 20-minute things,
973
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:30,768
get here, get there.
974
01:28:31,394 --> 01:28:33,563
And then I saw these footprints.
975
01:28:36,566 --> 01:28:39,861
And I got convinced
that it was Simon and Richard.
976
01:28:40,236 --> 01:28:43,364
They were up above me
and they were just following on.
977
01:28:43,448 --> 01:28:46,451
And I carried on crawling down,
978
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:51,247
utterly convinced that they were
wandering along behind me.
979
01:28:52,832 --> 01:28:54,584
And I can remember thinking,
980
01:28:54,667 --> 01:28:57,504
"That's really stupid,
they would come and help you. "
981
01:28:58,421 --> 01:29:01,299
And I think I persuaded myself
that they were just following on
982
01:29:01,382 --> 01:29:03,301
because they didn't want to embarrass me
983
01:29:03,384 --> 01:29:05,553
because I’d peed myself
and I was crying.
984
01:29:08,264 --> 01:29:11,142
I don't know how long it lasted,
maybe about an hour.
985
01:29:13,978 --> 01:29:15,188
I totally believed it,
986
01:29:15,271 --> 01:29:18,191
and then suddenly
it was like popping a bubble.
987
01:29:21,611 --> 01:29:23,947
And I realised that they weren't there
988
01:29:24,614 --> 01:29:26,658
and I felt utterly shattered.
989
01:29:39,629 --> 01:29:43,132
JOE: It was about 4:00
when I reached the lake.
990
01:29:45,718 --> 01:29:48,304
I knew that at the far end of it
991
01:29:48,388 --> 01:29:51,224
there was a moraine dam,
and from the top of that moraine dam,
992
01:29:51,975 --> 01:29:54,394
I would be able to look down
into the valley
993
01:29:54,477 --> 01:29:55,770
where the base camp was.
994
01:29:55,853 --> 01:29:58,439
In fact, I would be able
to see the tents.
995
01:29:59,607 --> 01:30:02,986
It was the first time I thought,
"I'm gonna make it.
996
01:30:03,111 --> 01:30:07,198
"I can make the distance,
I can actually make the distance."
997
01:30:08,575 --> 01:30:10,368
Almost as soon as I thought it,
998
01:30:10,451 --> 01:30:12,745
the next thought
that popped into my head was,
999
01:30:12,829 --> 01:30:15,290
"Well, will there be anyone there?"
1000
01:30:16,833 --> 01:30:21,129
I thought, "Christ, this is
the fourth day since I saw Simon."
1001
01:30:22,380 --> 01:30:23,756
And...
1002
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:25,341
As I worked it out,
1003
01:30:25,425 --> 01:30:28,928
I thought, "Why on earth
would they be there?"
1004
01:30:31,389 --> 01:30:32,974
I knew it got dark at 6:00,
1005
01:30:33,057 --> 01:30:35,018
and I thought, "I've got to get there, "
1006
01:30:35,101 --> 01:30:38,187
and I was trying to do it
as fast as possible.
1007
01:30:44,444 --> 01:30:49,282
The rest of that afternoon
I was plagued by this dreadful feeling
1008
01:30:49,365 --> 01:30:51,034
that they would've gone.
1009
01:30:54,537 --> 01:30:58,708
I hadn't paid attention to what
was happening with the weather.
1010
01:30:58,791 --> 01:31:02,295
Between leaving at 4:00 and getting
to the top of the moraine at about 6:00,
1011
01:31:02,378 --> 01:31:05,048
the weather had changed.
1012
01:31:05,381 --> 01:31:09,260
So when I looked down into
the valley, it was just full of clouds.
1013
01:31:11,054 --> 01:31:13,056
JOE: Simon!
1014
01:31:14,349 --> 01:31:16,142
I listened intently,
1015
01:31:16,225 --> 01:31:20,146
hoping to hear a whistle or
an answer, a cry back or something.
1016
01:31:20,688 --> 01:31:22,398
I didn't hear anything at all.
1017
01:31:27,153 --> 01:31:30,198
(WEEPING QUIETLY)
1018
01:31:30,823 --> 01:31:33,868
I spent a long time sat there
1019
01:31:33,951 --> 01:31:35,286
crying, really, not sure what to do,
1020
01:31:35,370 --> 01:31:38,289
and I thought about
getting in my sleeping bag.
1021
01:31:40,208 --> 01:31:43,628
For some reason it just seemed
a bit of a pathetic way to end things,
1022
01:31:43,711 --> 01:31:45,380
just in a sleeping bag.
1023
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:50,176
I thought, "Well, might as well
just keep going.
1024
01:31:50,259 --> 01:31:53,304
"You'll end it down there somewhere. "
1025
01:31:54,055 --> 01:31:57,433
(MUTTERS INDISTINCTLY)
1026
01:31:57,558 --> 01:31:59,477
(LAUGHS)
1027
01:32:03,481 --> 01:32:06,359
JOE: I don't know entirely what happened
1028
01:32:06,442 --> 01:32:08,277
for the rest of that night.
1029
01:32:10,113 --> 01:32:11,155
Yes.
1030
01:32:11,364 --> 01:32:16,119
I stopped looking at the watch,
and everything just started to go apart.
1031
01:32:31,050 --> 01:32:33,636
(INDISTINCT WHISPERING)
1032
01:32:35,888 --> 01:32:38,933
And I think I just got lost
1033
01:32:39,016 --> 01:32:42,186
and I didn't know
what I was doing any more.
1034
01:32:45,106 --> 01:32:48,943
I don't remember thinking of anyone or
1035
01:32:49,819 --> 01:32:53,698
anybody I loved or anything like that.
1036
01:32:53,906 --> 01:32:55,366
(GROANS)
1037
01:32:56,909 --> 01:33:00,413
I did have one time when I'd got
a song going through my head
1038
01:33:00,496 --> 01:33:03,416
and it was by a band called Boney M.
1039
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:06,961
I don't really like Boney M's music.
1040
01:33:08,129 --> 01:33:10,423
♪ Brown girl in the ring
1041
01:33:13,342 --> 01:33:15,052
♪ In the ring...
1042
01:33:15,136 --> 01:33:17,263
♪ She looks like a sugar in a plum
1043
01:33:17,346 --> 01:33:18,723
♪ Plum plum
1044
01:33:18,806 --> 01:33:21,100
♪ Show me your motion
1045
01:33:21,726 --> 01:33:23,478
What is that?
1046
01:33:23,561 --> 01:33:25,563
(LAUGHS)
1047
01:33:28,608 --> 01:33:30,443
♪ Show me your motion
1048
01:33:32,153 --> 01:33:35,490
♪ She looks like a sugar in a plum
1049
01:33:35,865 --> 01:33:38,451
♪ Brown girl in the ring
1050
01:33:39,952 --> 01:33:43,122
♪ There's a brown girl in the ring
1051
01:33:45,541 --> 01:33:47,543
♪ Brown girl in the ring
1052
01:33:49,545 --> 01:33:52,965
♪ She looks like a sugar in a plum
1053
01:33:53,049 --> 01:33:54,300
♪ Plum plum
1054
01:33:54,884 --> 01:33:56,969
♪ Show me your motion
1055
01:33:59,889 --> 01:34:03,017
♪ Come on, show me your motion
1056
01:34:05,394 --> 01:34:07,688
♪ Show me your motion
1057
01:34:07,772 --> 01:34:11,859
And it just went on
and on and on for hours.
1058
01:34:11,943 --> 01:34:13,694
♪ She looks like a sugar in a plum
1059
01:34:13,778 --> 01:34:15,822
I found it very upsetting
1060
01:34:15,905 --> 01:34:17,615
because I wanted to try
and get it out of my head
1061
01:34:17,698 --> 01:34:19,867
and I wanted to think of other things.
1062
01:34:19,951 --> 01:34:21,577
♪ There's a brown girl in the ring
1063
01:34:21,661 --> 01:34:24,205
(DISTORTED SONG CONTINUES)
1064
01:34:27,875 --> 01:34:29,836
I can remember thinking,
1065
01:34:30,962 --> 01:34:33,172
" Bloody hell,
I'm going to die to Boney M."
1066
01:34:33,256 --> 01:34:34,882
(GRUNTS)
1067
01:34:34,966 --> 01:34:36,926
♪ Show me your motion
1068
01:34:38,928 --> 01:34:42,014
♪ Come on, show me your motion ♪
1069
01:34:47,979 --> 01:34:49,355
I remember sometimes,
1070
01:34:49,438 --> 01:34:52,400
not waking up,
I think I was awake all the time,
1071
01:34:52,483 --> 01:34:55,111
but coming to. It was like waking up,
1072
01:34:55,194 --> 01:34:58,573
and finding myself sitting there.
1073
01:34:58,823 --> 01:35:00,867
I didn't know where I was.
1074
01:35:02,243 --> 01:35:05,746
It was pitch black and snowing
and I'd think I was back on the glacier
1075
01:35:05,830 --> 01:35:09,166
or in a pub car park
and I'd been beaten up again.
1076
01:35:09,250 --> 01:35:11,294
Then I’d just drift off again.
1077
01:35:17,174 --> 01:35:19,051
(GRUNTS)
1078
01:35:24,807 --> 01:35:26,976
I remember smelling something.
1079
01:35:27,852 --> 01:35:28,978
(COUGHS)
1080
01:35:29,145 --> 01:35:32,106
It was a really strong smell.
1081
01:35:32,189 --> 01:35:36,527
It acted like a smelling salt,
sort of cut through all this delirium.
1082
01:35:40,031 --> 01:35:42,742
And I couldn't understand what it meant.
1083
01:35:42,825 --> 01:35:45,745
It took me ages to try
and work out what it meant.
1084
01:35:46,412 --> 01:35:48,664
I thought it was me.
1085
01:35:49,832 --> 01:35:52,084
Very slowly I worked it out.
1086
01:35:52,168 --> 01:35:57,256
I thought, "I've crawled through
the latrine area of our campsite."
1087
01:35:58,758 --> 01:36:02,178
I realised then
that I was close to the tents.
1088
01:36:08,851 --> 01:36:11,354
Simon!
1089
01:36:13,189 --> 01:36:16,150
As I was shouting it,
I thought, "This is it.
1090
01:36:16,233 --> 01:36:20,237
"This is as far as this game goes. "
1091
01:36:22,657 --> 01:36:25,368
"I'm not capable of going any further. "
1092
01:36:29,872 --> 01:36:31,582
Simon!
1093
01:36:31,666 --> 01:36:34,585
I made the mistake of
having a little bit of hope
1094
01:36:34,669 --> 01:36:36,462
that they'd still be there.
1095
01:36:37,505 --> 01:36:41,133
When I shouted and they weren't there,
1096
01:36:41,217 --> 01:36:43,052
I sort of knew I was dead then.
1097
01:36:43,219 --> 01:36:45,054
(SOBBING)
1098
01:36:58,234 --> 01:37:01,570
That moment when
no one answered the call...
1099
01:37:01,988 --> 01:37:03,322
Simon.
1100
01:37:09,870 --> 01:37:11,622
It was...
1101
01:37:12,748 --> 01:37:15,835
It was... I lost something.
1102
01:37:20,297 --> 01:37:22,550
I lost me.
1103
01:37:27,013 --> 01:37:29,432
I woke up, not knowing why,
1104
01:37:30,391 --> 01:37:33,728
and was aware of
this strange atmosphere.
1105
01:37:33,811 --> 01:37:37,314
I could hear the wind howling
outside the tent
1106
01:37:37,398 --> 01:37:41,819
and started hearing something.
1107
01:37:44,447 --> 01:37:46,615
It did slowly dawn on me
1108
01:37:46,699 --> 01:37:49,368
that, really, the only thing it could be
1109
01:37:49,452 --> 01:37:52,246
would be Joe outside, shouting.
1110
01:37:53,205 --> 01:37:55,875
But that was completely impossible
1111
01:37:55,958 --> 01:37:57,710
because he was dead
1112
01:37:57,793 --> 01:38:00,588
and he'd died three or four days ago.
1113
01:38:02,131 --> 01:38:04,258
And then heard it again,
1114
01:38:04,341 --> 01:38:06,469
much sharper.
1115
01:38:06,969 --> 01:38:11,140
And it really sounded like
somebody shouting, "Simon ".
1116
01:38:15,978 --> 01:38:17,855
I kind of got in a panic
1117
01:38:17,938 --> 01:38:21,233
that first it couldn't be
Joe because Joe's dead,
1118
01:38:22,234 --> 01:38:25,780
and then, if he is out there,
1119
01:38:25,863 --> 01:38:30,034
it's gonna be this horrible thing,
it can't be a human being
1120
01:38:30,117 --> 01:38:34,580
because no human being
can possibly go through that
1121
01:38:34,663 --> 01:38:36,415
and be outside the tent.
1122
01:38:41,420 --> 01:38:45,841
I was just laying there,
really not knowing what to do.
1123
01:38:46,383 --> 01:38:48,803
And then Simon woke up.
1124
01:38:48,886 --> 01:38:53,682
"Simon," you know, it was quite
clearly a shout of my name.
1125
01:38:53,766 --> 01:38:57,019
I knew it was Joe, actually.
I knew immediately.
1126
01:38:59,355 --> 01:39:06,028
JOE: I was looking around and
then I saw this thing, floating.
1127
01:39:07,905 --> 01:39:10,491
of course, Simon exploded into action.
1128
01:39:14,370 --> 01:39:16,539
JOE: Suddenly, I heard voices.
1129
01:39:17,331 --> 01:39:19,041
SIMON: Joe?
1130
01:39:19,208 --> 01:39:20,543
Is that you?
1131
01:39:20,626 --> 01:39:22,837
RICHARD: I was holding back,
1132
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:26,966
because I didn't really feel
it was a human being out there.
1133
01:39:31,220 --> 01:39:32,721
JOE: Simon.
1134
01:39:41,730 --> 01:39:45,317
We went back up the stream bed
from where these cries had come,
1135
01:39:45,401 --> 01:39:49,655
about maybe 200-300 yards
outside the camp
1136
01:39:49,738 --> 01:39:50,906
and there was Joe.
1137
01:39:54,702 --> 01:39:56,704
- Simon.
-oh, fuck. oh, fuck.
1138
01:39:57,121 --> 01:40:01,417
I couldn't completely believe it
until I actually saw him.
1139
01:40:01,500 --> 01:40:04,378
But then it was still a little
difficult to believe that
1140
01:40:04,461 --> 01:40:08,090
because of the eerie night
and the fact of the state he was in.
1141
01:40:08,215 --> 01:40:09,175
Simon.
1142
01:40:09,258 --> 01:40:11,302
SIMON: Absolutely awful state.
1143
01:40:11,385 --> 01:40:15,139
It was almost like
he was a ghostlike figure.
1144
01:40:15,222 --> 01:40:19,185
It was like I had to pinch myself almost
1145
01:40:19,268 --> 01:40:21,770
to believe this was true,
1146
01:40:21,854 --> 01:40:24,231
that this was really happening.
1147
01:40:24,690 --> 01:40:26,525
- Help me.
-oh, fuck, Joe.
1148
01:40:26,609 --> 01:40:30,696
Shh. You okay? Shh, shh. oh, fuck.
1149
01:40:30,779 --> 01:40:32,948
Simon was...
1150
01:40:33,908 --> 01:40:36,035
He was swearing a lot.
1151
01:40:36,118 --> 01:40:37,453
Swearing a lot.
1152
01:40:37,620 --> 01:40:39,288
Fucking hell.
1153
01:40:39,496 --> 01:40:41,373
Richard! Lift him!
1154
01:40:41,457 --> 01:40:44,376
Richard, hold him,
you stupid bastard! Lift him!
1155
01:40:44,460 --> 01:40:46,253
Okay, Joe. Shh.
1156
01:40:46,337 --> 01:40:50,007
JOE: I remember Simon
grabbing my shoulders
1157
01:40:50,758 --> 01:40:52,635
and holding me.
1158
01:40:52,718 --> 01:40:54,678
SIMON: Lift his legs.
1159
01:40:55,054 --> 01:40:56,513
JOE: I remember that.
1160
01:40:57,806 --> 01:40:59,391
That feeling of being held.
1161
01:40:59,475 --> 01:41:03,979
okay, okay. Shh, I got you.
Shush, you're safe.
1162
01:41:25,167 --> 01:41:27,086
He thanked me
1163
01:41:28,337 --> 01:41:32,132
for trying to get him down the mountain,
1164
01:41:32,216 --> 01:41:35,010
for all that I'd done up to the point
1165
01:41:36,845 --> 01:41:41,433
where I'd cut the rope,
you know, and he said...
1166
01:41:41,517 --> 01:41:44,770
And he said to me,
"I'd have done the same."
1167
01:41:47,189 --> 01:41:50,651
Those were the first words
he uttered to me.
1168
01:41:58,867 --> 01:42:01,203
(QUIET SOBBING)
1169
01:42:01,787 --> 01:42:04,331
RICHARD: And I remember,
before we'd done anything to him,
1170
01:42:04,415 --> 01:42:08,043
before we'd even closed the door,
he said, "Where are my trousers?"
1171
01:42:08,544 --> 01:42:11,630
We had to explain
that we'd burnt his trousers,
1172
01:42:11,714 --> 01:42:14,675
which made him quite angry.
1173
01:42:14,758 --> 01:42:18,929
I think that kind of brought me
back into life to some extent,
1174
01:42:19,013 --> 01:42:22,016
realising it was
the same old Joe back again.