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I'm sitting in these rooms alone
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with people who have run
secret weapons programs,
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interrogated terrorists,
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protected closely-guarded
secrets as a profession,
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and all I can think about
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is getting them to
tell me something
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they don't want me to know.
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It's gonna take somebody at
the executive level to do it,
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or there's gonna be
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a incredible leak somewhere
that's somebody's conscience,
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and they don't end up, um,
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you know, committing
suicide by 12 bullet holes
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to the back of the
head kind of thing.
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The UFO reality can
no longer be denied.
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The secret has been
managed and guarded
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by a select few
for over 75 years.
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Advanced technology,
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biological and physical
materials have been recovered.
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They've been secretly studied
by compartmentalized factions
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within both government
and industry.
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These claims are not new.
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But you are about to
see undeniable evidence
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and previously
unpublished accounts
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that make this case
stronger than ever before.
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Somewhere between
fact and denial,
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you are about to discover
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an accidental truth.
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3-7-8-2-0-5-8-4.
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Knees up. Knees up.
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In 2017,
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the UFO subject exploded
into the mainstream.
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There's a whole fleet of
them. Look on the S.A.
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Whoa! Got him!
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The New York Times
broke a front page story
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about a shadowy government
program studying UFOs.
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October 2017.
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Leslie Kean, who's a
notable expert on UFOs
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she was invited to a very
private conference in Washington
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with Lue Elizondo and
some other people,
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Chris Mellon, to discuss UFOs.
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Lue Elizondo had just submitted
his resignation in October 2017,
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as the head of this very
secretive Pentagon UFO office.
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Program was established.
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It was initially called AAWSAP,
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Advanced Aerospace Weapon
System Applications Program,
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and very quickly that evolved,
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morphed into the more
common vernacular
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AATIP, Advanced Aerospace
Threat Identification Program.
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I was brought in
initially to come in
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to run the counterintelligence and
security piece for this effort in 2008.
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In 2010, I was asked by the former
director to run this program.
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The program was then
taken out of DIA
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and up to the OSD level,
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Office of Secretary of Defense.
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The Pentagon had this secret
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UFO monitoring agency
which nobody knew about.
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New York Times, Politico,
and followed by them,
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everyone else covering
the UFO subject
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suddenly, with seriousness,
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suddenly talking about
encounters by the U.S. Navy with
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objects that are supposed
to be impossible.
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The government is
investigating UFOs.
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Well, I almost crashed my car.
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Three cryptic
videos were released
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that claimed to
show unknown objects
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operating in military airspace
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while defying known
capabilities of flight
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and physics.
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There are more of them that
have not been released.
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These were only
snippets, by the way,
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and we knew that.
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But we were happy to get them.
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And they caused quite a stir.
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Lue Elizondo made the media
rounds with shocking statements.
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My personal belief is that
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there is very
compelling evidence that
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we may not be alone.
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Our cosmic neighborhood may
be a hell of a lot bigger.
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And by the way, we might,
might, have neighbors.
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That's a profound moment.
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At the 2018 symposium
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of The Mutual UFO Network,
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behind closed doors,
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he went beyond his public
statements to drop a bombshell.
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Sometimes people may
have associated you
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as being fringe or
being out there,
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and all along, you were right.
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One of the pilots who
engaged the craft,
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Commander David Fravor,
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chimed in with bold statements
inferring otherworldly origins
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of the mysterious phenomenon.
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I believe, as do the other
folks that were on the flight,
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that what we visually saw, that it
was something not from this world.
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You are talking to a pilot
who is looking at you
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with complete bewilderment as to
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looking to you for answers.
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They're asking you,
"Sir, what was this?"
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Congress is now looking at the
possibility of national security
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that the military is now owning
up to hours of videotapes
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taken by Navy pilots.
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There's been a sea change.
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Things are changing.
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People are more open
to the idea that,
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yeah, maybe we're not
alone in the universe.
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We were given an updated
phrase to describe it all.
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Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon.
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They're calling
them UAPs sometimes.
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Sometimes UFO, sometimes UAP.
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It's a kind of a rebranding
to a certain extent
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and a redefinition of
what the phenomenon is.
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A new group called To The Stars Academy
of Arts and Sciences was introduced.
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We are To The Stars Academy
of Arts and Science.
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A public benefit corporation.
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The group was co-founded
by rock star Tom DeLonge.
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I was working my
way through NASA,
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the Department of Defense,
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and various "other" agencies.
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Its members spoke out,
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hinting of
unprecedented openness
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and straight answers
about the topic.
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But who are these people really?
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Dr. Hal Puthoff, former
CIA operations officer.
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Jim Semivan, a 50-year veteran of NASA,
the CIA, and the National Security Agency.
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Steve Justice,
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former director of Lockheed
Martin Skunk Works.
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Christopher Mellon, former Undersecretary
of Defense for Intelligence.
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Lue Elizondo,
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fresh from a controversial
Pentagon resignation.
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Was anybody going to share anything
that brought us concrete answers?
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It was the first time I
really digested the enormity
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of the national security
implications of the UFO subject.
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The CIA and all these people
associated with Skunk Works
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and other intelligence agencies,
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you're not the right people
to come out with this.
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You're really not.
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Because you're the ones that have
been lying to us for 70 years.
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We haven't trusted these
individual agencies ever.
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In fact, they've always
teased our community.
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We are dealing with insiders.
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We are dealing with people
who have been in government,
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the military, the
intelligence community,
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have access to
classified information.
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But those people, all of them,
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will have to be very careful.
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For us to just go ahead and spew out
to satisfy the idle curiosity of a few,
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that's not our job.
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Our job is to protect
this nation from enemies,
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foreign and domestic.
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For what it's worth, I see
it that they were trying to
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make progress on this
within government,
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they took it as
far as they could,
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and then they realized that,
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really, the only way to
move it further forward
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was to leave government
and do it outside of that.
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Some believe that this new
roll-out of information
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was a cleverly
crafted set of events
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being orchestrated
by hidden hands.
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An evasive faction
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who has controlled this
information for years.
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I'm not a believer in
the conspiracy theory
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that this is some plot to leak it
to The New York Times and all that.
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I mean, too many elements came
together completely serendipitously.
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And, you know, looking back,
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you can, you know,
try to make a case
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that this was all orchestrated
and not at all true.
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I think that this was
definitely something
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that was organized,
thought out long-term.
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Again, I think some...
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I think they know, and they're
trying to get ahead of something.
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I think... I use the analogy of
a snowball at the top of a hill,
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and it starts out really small.
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And as it rolls down, it's
going to get bigger and bigger,
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and I think they're trying
to get ahead of that.
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You can't talk about this subject
with a government background
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without being the bad guy,
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in some people's minds eye.
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It just comes with
the territory.
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I refuse to discuss
anything classified.
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I've took an oath, which is,
by the way, a lifelong oath.
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As I've told people before,
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don't ask me because I'm
not going to tell you.
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Lue is in a tough spot,
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because he knows a
lot of things that...
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I mean, he still... He was...
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He came out of the
Intelligence community
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and he probably still,
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undoubtedly still has connections
to the Intelligence community.
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Well, you know, so he can't
say everything he knows
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and has been privy to.
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These people promoting this...
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agenda of UFO openness,
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not disclosure, but openness,
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they have enemies within
that establishment.
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So we're not talking
about a unified message.
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It's very uncomfortable.
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Especially if
you've lived a life
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where anonymity has
been your friend.
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We have every right
to know the truth.
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And it's... It's not okay that
they're holding that back.
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It is not a fun place to be.
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In fact, if I had
any opportunity
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for anybody else to stand
up and take my place...
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I would do it.
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There are a lot of people
that want this information out
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and there are a lot of people who
don't want this information out.
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The level of pushback that
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Harry Reid shared
with me on camera.
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When he tried to launch
this investigatory arm
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into creating AATIP,
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he said he got so much pushback
from the intelligence agencies,
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that they, like, tried
to destroy people.
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They really did not
want this to happen.
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After the initial media flurry,
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the Pentagon promised a report
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that might shed some
light on the subject.
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Do you expect to see real
answers in this report?
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What do you think?
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Look. Honestly, I
don't think so, Jake.
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The public only received
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a few pages of
inconclusive information.
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A more elaborate report was delivered
to Congress behind closed doors.
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Freedom of Information
Act requests,
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known as FOIA requests,
were submitted.
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The responses received
were heavily redacted.
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Three years later, three
and a half years later,
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no new evidence has come out.
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We've got no new videos.
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Nothing like that happened.
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Congressman Tim Burchett
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has become an outspoken
crusader against the secrecy.
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The American public deserves
to know. We need transparency.
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That's why nobody
trusts government.
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Nobody trusts either party
when it comes down to it.
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Instead of new answers,
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we've been given a
whitewashing of the past
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and further reinforcement
of a "New Narrative"
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created to fit the day.
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The New Narrative states that
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the UAP's not ours or
any foreign government's.
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They display characteristics
that defy explanation.
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"We are committed to
determining their nature,
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"and assessing any
potential threat."
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There was no official
government study of the topic
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after Project Blue
Book ended in 1969,
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until the AAWSAP
program started in 2004.
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By sort of extracting a
lot of the history out,
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they're able to
make it seem like,
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wow, this is a
real mystery here.
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So, I don't agree with that.
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I think their New Narrative,
I think they have this fear,
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you know, that it's a threat.
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And the word "threat" kind
of bothers me a little bit.
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But I understand that in order
to get government attention,
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they need to call it,
perhaps, a threat.
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So we have an ongoing
situation here.
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This is a defense issue.
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It's an air safety issue.
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It's a national security issue.
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It's a valid issue.
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There is something flying
around in our airspace
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and we don't know what it is or
we're not telling what it is.
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Eighteen months ago,
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if you had asked anyone in
government the official line on UFOs,
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you would have received
a standard response
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rather like this.
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"There is no current interest
or involvement in the subject.
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"Since the termination
of Blue Book in 1969,
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"nobody in government
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"is researching or
investigating this."
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You know, the
department writ large
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is clearly not interested
in UFOs whatsoever.
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This story leaves a
gap of over 35 years
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that the government
was supposedly
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not engaged in the
study of the phenomenon.
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The media was quick to
participate in the new story.
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Were they complicit in delivering
this new version of the facts?
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There is a risk of believing
the official narrative
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too quickly and
just reporting it.
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There's many steps to go and
it's going to take a while.
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And, you know, they still have
a totally compliant media,
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for the most part.
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I can tell you from my
knowledge of The New York Times.
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The New York Times is not afraid
to confront the government.
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Having been legal counsel
for The New York Times
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and for NBC News,
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the people on the board of
editors of those things,
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you know, feel themselves to have a certain
patriotic duty, as they perceive them,
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to not reveal anything
to the American public
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that the National Security State
people don't want revealed.
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So I don't want to be bound
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by what Danny Sheehan
said about his,
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you know, concepts of what
The Times prints and doesn't.
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This New Narrative has
become the official story.
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It was even stated as
fact by Andre Carson
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at the beginning of the first
congressional UFO hearings,
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in over 40 years.
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More than 50 years ago,
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the U.S. Government
ended Project Blue Book.
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An effort to catalog
and understand
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sightings of objects in the air
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that could not
otherwise be explained.
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For more than 20
years, that project
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had treated unidentified
anomalies in our airspace
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as a national security threat to
be monitored and investigated.
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In 2017, we learned for the first
time that the Department of Defense
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had quietly restarted
a similar organization,
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tracking what we now call
Unidentified Aerial Phenomena.
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We've heard all of this before.
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The New Narrative is really an
eerie echo of 70-year-old events.
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We can say that the recent
sightings are in no way connected
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with any secret development by
any agency of the United States.
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Aircraft, we call them aircraft,
are displaying characteristics
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that are not currently
within the U.S. inventory,
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nor in any foreign inventory
that we are aware of.
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Air Force interest
in this problem
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has been due to our
feeling of an obligation
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to identify and analyze,
to the best of our ability,
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anything in the air that
may have the possibility
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of threat or menace
to the United States.
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We know that our service
members have encountered
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Unidentified Aerial Phenomena.
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And because UAPs pose
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potential flight safety
and general security risk,
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we are committed to a focused
effort to determine their origins.
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However, there have been a certain
percentage of this volume of reports
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that have been made
by credible observers
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of relatively incredible things.
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It is this group of observations
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that we now are
attempting to resolve.
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There will be a recognized
concerted effort
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to figure this out.
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The old story was repeated almost
verbatim by the current players.
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We're still far
from the goal line,
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and there is a lot of positions
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that they could
take along the way
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that still will allow them
to maintain credibility
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and avoid culpability.
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The media and the
public want more.
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They want answers.
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I'm not sure that there are
going to be easy answers to this.
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They're trying to sweep anything
prior to 2004 under the carpet,
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but we won't let them
because we've got
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all the historical cases
and those can't go away.
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They're not only whitewashing
history, they're denying it.
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They're only acknowledging
the phenomenon back to 2004.
346
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The government has
a lot to answer for.
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Absolutely right.
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The history of the
subject has been replete
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with misinformation
and disinformation.
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It's just a complete cover up.
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What was going on in the time between
the closing of Project Blue Book
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and the beginning of the
officially announced UFO programs
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that we know about today?
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Why is it important?
355
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Because in those years,
is where the truth lies.
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A truth that many have gone to great
lengths to conceal, deny, and debunk.
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We start by taking a closer look
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at the period between
1947 and 2005.
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The existence of
official UFO research
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and programs by the U.S.
Government in this time frame
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has been staunchly denied.
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The facts challenge
that position.
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In the late 1940s, the world was
recovering from World War II.
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The military was reorganizing.
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In 1947, the Air Force
was being created
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as a standalone
branch of service.
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The Cold War and its strategic
questions were looming.
368
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But in the midst of all of this,
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the United States Army
created what they called
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the Interplanetary
Phenomenon Unit
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of the Scientific
and Technical branch.
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Why did they need that?
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Numerous FOIA request verified the
existence of this Army program.
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They state that
the unit disbanded
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and was folded into Project
Blue Book in the 50s.
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But the files of this group
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are not part of the official
Project Blue Book Collection.
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So where did they go?
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During that time, there was advanced
technology in the possession of Germany.
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Scientists were brought over after
the war to continue the work.
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Stories of UFOs and
crashes were abundant,
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including the famous
Roswell incident of 1947.
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The late astronaut
Dr. Edgar Mitchell
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was given secret information
about events of the time.
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In this never before seen video,
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he shares what he was told.
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Individuals at the Pentagon,
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had been attempting
to get into the system
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and find out about it,
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thus confirming
and had confirmed.
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That the Roswell
incident was real.
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They saw some of the material
from the crashed spacecraft.
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Some saw bodies from the beings
that were killed in that crash.
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There were some that
saw a live being.
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A live being had been taken away
and was in the system somewhere.
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So those were real life incidents
that were reported to me.
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Many believe in the formation
of a group called Majestic 12
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assembled by President Truman,
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to strategize about how
to handle the information
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00:20:23,691 --> 00:20:25,793
about these encounters and more.
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00:20:25,827 --> 00:20:28,029
Documents purport to
detail the creation
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00:20:28,062 --> 00:20:31,264
and deployment of this
group, but their authenticity
403
00:20:31,298 --> 00:20:33,601
is still a hotly debated topic.
404
00:20:33,634 --> 00:20:37,004
It makes sense, however, that
under such circumstances,
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00:20:37,038 --> 00:20:39,607
just such a group
would have been formed.
406
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They would have had
control of the subject
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and accountability
to a select few.
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If a decision was
made to enact secrecy,
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00:20:46,514 --> 00:20:48,816
this group would
have made it happen.
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00:20:50,985 --> 00:20:57,225
After years of UFO hysteria and
speculation between 1947 and 1952,
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the government finally said that they
were taking the subject seriously.
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Enter Project Blue Book,
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00:21:02,697 --> 00:21:03,965
a public program
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that was supposed to shed
light on the UFO subject.
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Paul Hynek, son of the late
J. Allen Hynek, shared this.
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My father was the chief
scientific consultant
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working alongside Air
Force counterparts.
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00:21:18,112 --> 00:21:22,049
And it became clear that the
role of Project Blue Book
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wasn't to look for the truth,
but was to manufacture answers
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and to tamp down hysteria.
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Somebody called it the Society for
the Explanation of the Uninvestigated.
422
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My father had to question
whether he should stay involved.
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James McDonald, one of
his colleagues, said,
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look, you're being played
a fool by the Air Force,
425
00:21:47,008 --> 00:21:48,609
and my father thought
a lot about it.
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He finally decided that
427
00:21:50,244 --> 00:21:53,981
having that front row center
seat to all these goings on
428
00:21:54,015 --> 00:21:56,784
and being able to influence
things, not control,
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00:21:56,818 --> 00:21:58,318
was worth the trouble.
430
00:21:58,351 --> 00:22:04,457
But it became increasingly
frustrating for him over time,
431
00:22:04,491 --> 00:22:08,062
as he saw that the Air Force
was not changing their colors.
432
00:22:10,698 --> 00:22:13,067
J. Allen Hynek was
openly frustrated
433
00:22:13,100 --> 00:22:15,069
by the fact he was
never given access
434
00:22:15,102 --> 00:22:18,739
to what he knew were compelling
events shrouded in secrecy.
435
00:22:18,773 --> 00:22:22,176
It haunted him until
his passing in 1986.
436
00:22:22,210 --> 00:22:26,013
Official Air Force statements regarding
the conclusion of Blue Book say,
437
00:22:26,047 --> 00:22:28,282
"Since the termination
of Project Blue Book,
438
00:22:28,316 --> 00:22:30,350
"nothing has occurred
that would support
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00:22:30,383 --> 00:22:34,021
"a resumption of UFO
investigations by the Air Force."
440
00:22:34,055 --> 00:22:37,225
But another four-year request
revealed a different story.
441
00:22:37,258 --> 00:22:40,695
A 1969 memo from General
Carroll Bolender,
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a senior director at Air Force
Research and Development,
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00:22:43,698 --> 00:22:46,334
stated, "After Blue
Book was dissolved,
444
00:22:46,366 --> 00:22:47,668
"that reports of 'UFOs'
445
00:22:47,702 --> 00:22:49,704
"would still continue
to be handled
446
00:22:49,737 --> 00:22:51,606
"through a standard
Air Force procedure
447
00:22:51,639 --> 00:22:53,140
"designed for this purpose.
448
00:22:53,174 --> 00:22:56,143
"Furthermore, reports of
unidentified flying objects
449
00:22:56,177 --> 00:22:59,146
"which could affect
national security were, are,
450
00:22:59,180 --> 00:23:01,448
"not part of the
Blue Book system."
451
00:23:01,481 --> 00:23:05,586
There was the creation of the Air
Intelligence Service squadrons,
452
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which were tasked
with going to any spot
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00:23:09,456 --> 00:23:11,225
in the continental
United States,
454
00:23:11,259 --> 00:23:15,863
within six hours and
picking up debris,
455
00:23:15,897 --> 00:23:21,769
fallen pilots, and also
containing information leak.
456
00:23:21,802 --> 00:23:24,437
And so many people think
that that would have been
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00:23:24,471 --> 00:23:28,408
the entity or the agency that
gave birth to the Men in Black.
458
00:23:28,441 --> 00:23:32,647
What seems to be clear is
that there was a bifurcation.
459
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,382
That Project Blue Book
may have started off
460
00:23:34,414 --> 00:23:35,716
as a serious
scientific endeavor,
461
00:23:35,750 --> 00:23:38,386
but as of 1953,
it no longer was,
462
00:23:38,418 --> 00:23:42,223
and there was most likely the Air
Intelligence Service squadrons
463
00:23:42,256 --> 00:23:43,824
that picked up the banner
464
00:23:43,858 --> 00:23:46,594
of going out and
trying to find saucers
465
00:23:46,627 --> 00:23:49,163
and then hand them off to people
466
00:23:49,196 --> 00:23:51,032
who would try to
reverse-engineer
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00:23:51,065 --> 00:23:52,934
the propulsion
systems, et cetera.
468
00:23:52,967 --> 00:23:54,769
General Arthur Exon
described to us
469
00:23:54,802 --> 00:23:56,404
when he was base commander
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00:23:56,436 --> 00:23:59,674
at Wright-Patterson
Air Force Base in 1964,
471
00:23:59,707 --> 00:24:02,343
that there would
be an ongoing joke
472
00:24:02,376 --> 00:24:05,413
that the Blue Book, you know,
a two-man team would fly off
473
00:24:05,445 --> 00:24:08,115
in a little single engine
plane in one direction,
474
00:24:08,149 --> 00:24:11,419
and then the actual project
would arrive from Washington
475
00:24:11,451 --> 00:24:14,922
on a commercial flight, they would
change back into their uniforms,
476
00:24:14,956 --> 00:24:19,393
and a team of 12-15 officers
would fly off in a jet
477
00:24:19,427 --> 00:24:22,897
to actually conduct
full-scale investigations.
478
00:24:25,266 --> 00:24:27,034
Project Blue Book
was headquartered
479
00:24:27,068 --> 00:24:29,036
at Wright-Patterson
Air Force Base,
480
00:24:29,070 --> 00:24:32,073
but some of the other,
more secret UFO programs
481
00:24:32,106 --> 00:24:34,141
seem to have been
located there, too.
482
00:24:34,175 --> 00:24:37,111
One of these is the
mysterious Blue Room,
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00:24:37,144 --> 00:24:41,282
an underground repository of
recovered technology and debris.
484
00:24:41,315 --> 00:24:45,286
This is the location, allegedly,
where they brought the bodies
485
00:24:45,319 --> 00:24:46,988
and the craft from
the Roswell crash
486
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and where all of the other
crash retrievals and bodies,
487
00:24:50,391 --> 00:24:53,561
kind of like they have a consortium
of where they keep all this.
488
00:24:53,594 --> 00:24:57,865
So you've got the bodies, you've got
the craft, you've got the debris,
489
00:24:57,898 --> 00:24:59,233
autopsy reports,
490
00:24:59,266 --> 00:25:02,470
the eight-by-ten glossy
black and white photographs,
491
00:25:02,503 --> 00:25:06,207
and the gun camera footage
is all supposed to be kept
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00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,210
at the Blue Room, some type
of an underground vault
493
00:25:09,243 --> 00:25:13,147
or Building 18 at
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.
494
00:25:13,180 --> 00:25:16,751
Senator Barry Goldwater
sought confirmation of this.
495
00:25:16,784 --> 00:25:18,786
At Wright-Patterson field,
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00:25:18,819 --> 00:25:21,489
if you could get
into certain places,
497
00:25:21,522 --> 00:25:23,290
you find out what the Air Force
498
00:25:23,324 --> 00:25:26,093
and the government
knows about UFOs.
499
00:25:26,127 --> 00:25:31,098
Reportedly, a spaceship landed
500
00:25:31,132 --> 00:25:35,036
and it was all hushed up,
quiet, and nobody ever...
501
00:25:35,069 --> 00:25:37,271
I've never heard
about much of it.
502
00:25:38,339 --> 00:25:42,777
I called Curtis LeMay,
and I said, "General,
503
00:25:42,810 --> 00:25:47,048
"I know we have a room
at Wright-Patterson,
504
00:25:47,081 --> 00:25:49,316
"where you put all
the secret stuff.
505
00:25:51,018 --> 00:25:52,253
"Could I go in there?"
506
00:25:53,220 --> 00:25:56,123
I've never heard him get mad,
507
00:25:56,157 --> 00:25:58,559
but he got madder
than hell at me.
508
00:25:58,592 --> 00:25:59,827
Cussed me out,
509
00:25:59,860 --> 00:26:02,730
said, "Don't ever ask
me that question."
510
00:26:02,763 --> 00:26:06,267
Supposedly, the contents of
the Blue Room were filmed.
511
00:26:06,300 --> 00:26:10,104
Exhaustive FOIA requests
finally revealed that this film
512
00:26:10,137 --> 00:26:13,040
did indeed exist,
but was destroyed.
513
00:26:15,409 --> 00:26:19,213
Nick Pope, a longtime ex-British
government pundit on the topic,
514
00:26:19,246 --> 00:26:22,483
denied official investigation
of the subject for years.
515
00:26:22,517 --> 00:26:23,684
Until he didn't.
516
00:26:23,717 --> 00:26:26,720
The more interesting UFO
sightings are being looked at,
517
00:26:26,754 --> 00:26:29,356
but not under the auspices
518
00:26:29,390 --> 00:26:32,760
of a formally constituted
UFO research program.
519
00:26:32,793 --> 00:26:36,664
We now know about a
government UFO program,
520
00:26:36,697 --> 00:26:42,636
but we might not know about
the government UFO program.
521
00:26:45,473 --> 00:26:47,208
Pope has told a story about
522
00:26:47,241 --> 00:26:49,710
a picture that hung on the
wall of his office for years
523
00:26:49,743 --> 00:26:51,112
until being removed.
524
00:26:51,145 --> 00:26:54,381
The Calvine incident
from the United Kingdom,
525
00:26:54,415 --> 00:26:57,418
is one of the most
intriguing sightings
526
00:26:57,451 --> 00:26:59,887
in the British
government's UFO files.
527
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,056
And for some years,
528
00:27:02,089 --> 00:27:06,293
when I was working in Ministry of
Defense main building on this issue,
529
00:27:06,327 --> 00:27:11,298
we had a blown-up,
poster-sized enlargement
530
00:27:11,332 --> 00:27:15,002
of one of the photos
that was taken.
531
00:27:15,035 --> 00:27:17,138
The story is that two hikers
532
00:27:17,171 --> 00:27:20,407
were out and they saw a
large diamond-shaped UFO.
533
00:27:20,441 --> 00:27:23,944
At one point, there was a
military jet in the background.
534
00:27:23,978 --> 00:27:27,148
And then the UFO
accelerated away.
535
00:27:27,181 --> 00:27:29,092
We had looked at them at
the Ministry of Defense.
536
00:27:29,116 --> 00:27:35,189
They'd been analyzed by various
intelligence community imagery analysts.
537
00:27:35,222 --> 00:27:37,024
It was literally a UFO.
538
00:27:37,057 --> 00:27:40,394
The Ministry of Defense
embarked on a campaign
539
00:27:40,427 --> 00:27:43,497
to declassify and
release its UFO files.
540
00:27:43,532 --> 00:27:47,234
Documents about the
Calvine incident emerged,
541
00:27:47,268 --> 00:27:50,704
but the full-size color photos,
542
00:27:50,738 --> 00:27:54,074
the negatives, the enlarged
image that was on my wall,
543
00:27:54,108 --> 00:27:55,976
gone. Disappeared.
544
00:27:56,010 --> 00:28:00,515
There was an effort to
see if the original photos
545
00:28:00,549 --> 00:28:05,953
might be in the hard copy file
held at the National Archives.
546
00:28:05,986 --> 00:28:08,523
And, apparently,
the hard copy file
547
00:28:08,557 --> 00:28:11,792
will be released in
about the year 2072.
548
00:28:14,161 --> 00:28:15,996
In an interesting
turn of events,
549
00:28:16,030 --> 00:28:18,132
just as we were
finishing this project,
550
00:28:18,165 --> 00:28:19,500
the picture appeared.
551
00:28:19,534 --> 00:28:22,836
This is the mysterious
Calvine UFO photograph.
552
00:28:22,870 --> 00:28:24,405
The facts around this photograph
553
00:28:24,438 --> 00:28:26,608
strongly suggest
an unknown group
554
00:28:26,641 --> 00:28:29,611
that was able to intercept
the release of this image
555
00:28:29,644 --> 00:28:30,945
and attempt to stop it.
556
00:28:30,978 --> 00:28:32,614
But who are they?
557
00:28:32,647 --> 00:28:34,815
Information in government,
558
00:28:34,848 --> 00:28:37,619
in particularly
intelligence information,
559
00:28:37,652 --> 00:28:42,890
it's highly classified,
deeply compartmentalized,
560
00:28:42,923 --> 00:28:44,559
everyone works in silos.
561
00:28:44,593 --> 00:28:47,494
The left hand often doesn't know
what the right hand's doing.
562
00:28:47,529 --> 00:28:50,297
We saw an example of
compartmentalization
563
00:28:50,331 --> 00:28:52,701
and the evasion of scrutiny
and straight answers
564
00:28:52,733 --> 00:28:55,570
during the recent
Senate hearings on UFOs.
565
00:28:55,604 --> 00:28:59,273
So you're not aware of anything in
between Project Blue Book and AATIP?
566
00:28:59,306 --> 00:29:01,342
Hasn't been brought
to my attention.
567
00:29:01,375 --> 00:29:04,646
That data is not within the
holdings of the UAP task force.
568
00:29:04,679 --> 00:29:06,256
There are many things that
are out there in the ether
569
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,958
that aren't officially
brought to our attention.
570
00:29:07,982 --> 00:29:10,050
How would it have to
be officially brought?
571
00:29:10,084 --> 00:29:11,852
I'm bringing it
to your attention.
572
00:29:11,885 --> 00:29:14,321
Probably a lot of leads that
we would have to follow up on.
573
00:29:14,355 --> 00:29:16,299
I don't think we have
resource to do that right now.
574
00:29:16,323 --> 00:29:18,468
All I can speak to is, you know,
what's within my cognizance,
575
00:29:18,492 --> 00:29:21,362
the UAP task force, and we have
not looked at that incident.
576
00:29:21,395 --> 00:29:23,073
And then, finally, are
you aware of a document
577
00:29:23,097 --> 00:29:24,633
that appeared around 2019,
578
00:29:24,666 --> 00:29:28,637
sometimes called the Admiral
Wilson Memo or E.W. Notes Memo?
579
00:29:28,670 --> 00:29:32,039
- I am... I am not...
- I'm not personally aware of that.
580
00:29:32,072 --> 00:29:35,644
These answers are made possible
by compartmentalization
581
00:29:35,677 --> 00:29:37,612
that aids in deniability.
582
00:29:37,646 --> 00:29:39,079
You can ask the questions,
583
00:29:39,113 --> 00:29:40,814
but who are you
going to ask them of?
584
00:29:40,848 --> 00:29:43,393
And you've got to make sure you're
asking the right people the questions,
585
00:29:43,417 --> 00:29:45,553
because that's another problem.
586
00:29:45,587 --> 00:29:47,555
You can ask questions
all day long.
587
00:29:49,923 --> 00:29:53,127
While we're at it, what
is the Wilson-Davis Memo
588
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,162
that Senator
Gallagher asked about?
589
00:29:55,195 --> 00:30:00,167
It's the leak of 15 pages
of notes by Dr. Eric Davis,
590
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,705
of a meeting he had in
2002 with a retired member
591
00:30:03,738 --> 00:30:06,708
of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,
Admiral Thomas R. Wilson.
592
00:30:06,741 --> 00:30:11,345
And the contents of these
notes are absolutely explosive.
593
00:30:11,378 --> 00:30:13,981
The Wilson-Davis Memo
was found in the files
594
00:30:14,014 --> 00:30:15,717
of the late Dr. Edgar Mitchell.
595
00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:18,352
It was the existence of a
reverse-engineering program
596
00:30:18,385 --> 00:30:21,623
to reverse-engineer
extraterrestrial technology.
597
00:30:21,656 --> 00:30:23,123
After he learned
about the existence
598
00:30:23,157 --> 00:30:26,994
of a deep classified program
to study ET technology.
599
00:30:27,027 --> 00:30:32,366
And the fact that he had genuine
legal regulatory oversight over this,
600
00:30:32,399 --> 00:30:34,703
how he was denied
access to this program.
601
00:30:34,736 --> 00:30:38,640
We'd retrieved a functioning
craft that was ET in nature.
602
00:30:38,673 --> 00:30:40,642
I mean, this is all
stated in there.
603
00:30:40,675 --> 00:30:43,578
And that there had been this
long reverse-engineering program.
604
00:30:43,611 --> 00:30:45,647
But it had gone into
a corporate company,
605
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,082
and the heads of the
Joint Chiefs of Staff
606
00:30:48,115 --> 00:30:49,551
have no business
looking into it.
607
00:30:49,584 --> 00:30:51,786
The memorable quote
on that note is,
608
00:30:51,820 --> 00:30:54,321
"Technology not of this Earth,
609
00:30:54,355 --> 00:30:57,659
"not made by man,
not by human hands."
610
00:30:57,692 --> 00:30:59,561
They said, "No,
you're not read in."
611
00:30:59,594 --> 00:31:02,863
Admiral Wilson denies the
authenticity of the story.
612
00:31:02,896 --> 00:31:05,567
Dr. Eric Davis plays
a significant role
613
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,901
in the programs we
are describing here,
614
00:31:07,935 --> 00:31:09,704
the history and the research.
615
00:31:09,738 --> 00:31:11,271
He said this,
616
00:31:11,305 --> 00:31:16,276
"I am not at liberty to confirm or
verify any aspect of those notes."
617
00:31:16,310 --> 00:31:18,646
These notes, in my view,
618
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,582
there's no question
about their authenticity.
619
00:31:23,417 --> 00:31:25,452
In a recent presentation
to Congress,
620
00:31:25,486 --> 00:31:28,021
MUFON, the Mutual UFO Network,
621
00:31:28,055 --> 00:31:32,426
presented a slide pointing out
nearly 20 government agencies
622
00:31:32,459 --> 00:31:36,063
that have some program
or study of UAP.
623
00:31:36,096 --> 00:31:37,498
There were many.
624
00:31:39,166 --> 00:31:40,668
In 1991,
625
00:31:40,702 --> 00:31:42,537
New York Times
writer Howard Blum
626
00:31:42,570 --> 00:31:44,539
released the book Out There.
627
00:31:44,572 --> 00:31:47,241
In it, he detailed
an actual group
628
00:31:47,274 --> 00:31:50,177
formed by the Pentagon to
investigate new evidence
629
00:31:50,210 --> 00:31:52,946
related to an
extraterrestrial presence.
630
00:31:52,980 --> 00:31:57,251
This group, referred to in the
book as the UFO Working Group,
631
00:31:57,284 --> 00:31:59,521
was led by a
shadowy army colonel
632
00:31:59,554 --> 00:32:02,524
referred to as Colonel Phillips.
633
00:32:02,557 --> 00:32:05,359
It is believed that the
mysterious Colonel Phillips
634
00:32:05,392 --> 00:32:09,798
represents a real colonel who
is even more of a mystery.
635
00:32:09,831 --> 00:32:14,268
Colonel John Alexander is a central
figure in much of this history.
636
00:32:14,301 --> 00:32:19,940
In 1985, he became the director of
advanced concepts at the U.S. Army Lab.
637
00:32:20,575 --> 00:32:21,576
In 2009,
638
00:32:21,609 --> 00:32:24,779
John Alexander spoke
at the UFOX Conference
639
00:32:24,813 --> 00:32:27,281
and was interviewed
behind the scenes.
640
00:32:27,314 --> 00:32:32,219
What I think needs to happen at
this time is not disclosure per se,
641
00:32:32,252 --> 00:32:33,798
because I don't think
there is much to disclose.
642
00:32:33,822 --> 00:32:38,058
What I think needs to happen
is we need to make it okay,
643
00:32:38,091 --> 00:32:41,563
permissible for
serious scientists
644
00:32:41,596 --> 00:32:44,097
who want to explore
these fields to do this.
645
00:32:44,131 --> 00:32:47,100
Unknown at the time of
this original interview,
646
00:32:47,134 --> 00:32:48,435
he had been running a program
647
00:32:48,469 --> 00:32:51,138
exactly like the kind
described in Blum's book.
648
00:32:51,171 --> 00:32:55,810
A bunch of military, aerospace
and government insiders
649
00:32:55,844 --> 00:32:59,112
started with the Advanced
Theoretical Physics Working Group.
650
00:32:59,146 --> 00:33:02,650
Now, there's even some evidence
that it existed prior to that.
651
00:33:02,684 --> 00:33:06,521
I ran a program
inside the government,
652
00:33:06,554 --> 00:33:09,691
I had all of the
services involved,
653
00:33:09,724 --> 00:33:13,160
I had many aspects of the
Intelligence community,
654
00:33:13,193 --> 00:33:15,630
I had aerospace engineers.
655
00:33:15,663 --> 00:33:18,766
It was at the top
secret SCI level,
656
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,368
so everybody had
the high clearances.
657
00:33:23,671 --> 00:33:26,240
They had this meeting
at BDM Corporation
658
00:33:26,273 --> 00:33:28,475
in a secure vault room and said,
659
00:33:28,510 --> 00:33:30,812
"We're forming up this group."
660
00:33:30,845 --> 00:33:32,714
And that was in 1985.
661
00:33:32,747 --> 00:33:34,047
The real name of the group
662
00:33:34,081 --> 00:33:37,184
was the Advanced Theoretical
Physics Working Group.
663
00:33:37,217 --> 00:33:39,219
The study topics included
664
00:33:39,253 --> 00:33:41,388
Advanced Detector Deployment,
665
00:33:41,421 --> 00:33:45,627
Established Communication,
New Materials,
666
00:33:45,660 --> 00:33:48,395
Develop a "Gravity
Interaction System",
667
00:33:48,428 --> 00:33:51,098
"Biological Controls
of Processes".
668
00:33:51,966 --> 00:33:54,002
We start by saying it's real.
669
00:33:54,034 --> 00:33:55,435
So let's be clear.
670
00:33:55,469 --> 00:33:57,037
UFOs are real,
671
00:33:57,070 --> 00:33:58,673
sensor systems picked them up.
672
00:34:01,543 --> 00:34:04,913
UFOs have been around, you know,
673
00:34:04,946 --> 00:34:07,649
since, again, the
beginning of time,
674
00:34:07,682 --> 00:34:10,919
or recorded history
as we know it.
675
00:34:10,952 --> 00:34:14,321
It is a global phenomenon.
676
00:34:16,223 --> 00:34:19,426
One of the things that will
come up in this, undoubtedly,
677
00:34:19,459 --> 00:34:21,128
is the BAASS study
678
00:34:21,161 --> 00:34:23,297
or the one that
Lue Elizondo said
679
00:34:23,330 --> 00:34:26,233
came out in The New York Times.
680
00:34:26,266 --> 00:34:27,501
We spent a lot of time
681
00:34:27,535 --> 00:34:28,903
in the analysis piece of this,
682
00:34:28,937 --> 00:34:31,973
getting experts
within the community,
683
00:34:32,006 --> 00:34:35,309
both the Department of Defense
and the Intelligence community.
684
00:34:35,342 --> 00:34:38,078
It basically followed
the same thing
685
00:34:38,111 --> 00:34:41,448
that I had done 30 years earlier
686
00:34:41,481 --> 00:34:45,587
and found, I think,
basically the same thing.
687
00:34:45,620 --> 00:34:47,321
What we're talking
about is something
688
00:34:47,354 --> 00:34:50,190
that is probably not
ours or adversarial.
689
00:34:50,223 --> 00:34:54,494
Something that we really just
don't know where it's from.
690
00:34:54,529 --> 00:34:56,439
And may have been frankly
here for quite a while.
691
00:34:56,463 --> 00:34:58,465
The things that they knew about
692
00:34:58,498 --> 00:35:02,102
the capabilities of
UFOs were being observed
693
00:35:02,135 --> 00:35:03,136
felt the same.
694
00:35:03,170 --> 00:35:06,774
Really fast, high speed
turns, anti-gravity.
695
00:35:06,808 --> 00:35:09,176
You know, things that
just can't happen.
696
00:35:11,646 --> 00:35:14,247
And first of all, every
sensorial system we have
697
00:35:14,281 --> 00:35:17,351
does pick up UFOs
from time to time.
698
00:35:17,384 --> 00:35:20,622
We have hard craft more
than a mile across,
699
00:35:20,655 --> 00:35:23,992
multi sensor. I mean,
absolutely real.
700
00:35:24,025 --> 00:35:27,629
And thousands and thousands
of variations in between.
701
00:35:27,662 --> 00:35:30,430
UAP observed and
interacting with
702
00:35:30,464 --> 00:35:32,366
and flying over sensitive
military facilities,
703
00:35:32,399 --> 00:35:33,801
and not just ranges,
704
00:35:33,835 --> 00:35:37,170
but some facilities housing
our strategic nuclear forces.
705
00:35:37,204 --> 00:35:39,439
One such incident
allegedly occurred
706
00:35:39,473 --> 00:35:41,876
at Malmstrom Air Force Base,
707
00:35:41,909 --> 00:35:44,679
in which ten of our nuclear
ICBMs were rendered inoperable.
708
00:35:44,712 --> 00:35:46,681
People do look at
some of these things.
709
00:35:46,714 --> 00:35:49,651
Particularly, the
incidents with F aded Giant
710
00:35:49,684 --> 00:35:53,121
that Bob Salas talks about
where you had missiles go down.
711
00:35:53,153 --> 00:35:54,589
Absolutely real.
712
00:35:54,622 --> 00:35:56,958
I have heard stories, I have
not seen the official data.
713
00:35:56,991 --> 00:35:58,926
No official assessment
714
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,864
that you've done or exist
within DOD that you're aware of
715
00:36:02,897 --> 00:36:04,699
regarding the
Malmstrom incident?
716
00:36:04,732 --> 00:36:06,010
We have not looked
at that incident.
717
00:36:06,034 --> 00:36:07,869
You're the guys
investigating it.
718
00:36:07,902 --> 00:36:09,403
I mean, who else is doing it?
719
00:36:09,436 --> 00:36:14,008
Studied the hell out of it and
end up with, "Have no idea."
720
00:36:16,944 --> 00:36:18,713
This stunning set of revelations
721
00:36:18,746 --> 00:36:21,649
places John Alexander in
the thick of the subject
722
00:36:21,683 --> 00:36:25,653
during the elusive
missing years in question.
723
00:36:25,687 --> 00:36:28,321
A request for information
on the military background
724
00:36:28,355 --> 00:36:32,325
of Colonel John Alexander
returned an absolute refusal
725
00:36:32,359 --> 00:36:34,394
by the Department
of Army personnel,
726
00:36:34,428 --> 00:36:38,265
to even acknowledge Colonel
Alexander's military record.
727
00:36:41,368 --> 00:36:43,104
After retiring from the Army,
728
00:36:43,137 --> 00:36:47,041
John Alexander worked at
Los Alamos National Labs.
729
00:36:47,075 --> 00:36:48,543
In 1995,
730
00:36:48,576 --> 00:36:52,580
Alexander took a position at a
new research group called NIDS.
731
00:36:52,613 --> 00:36:55,783
The National Institute
for Discovery Sciences.
732
00:36:55,817 --> 00:36:59,620
NIDS was founded by a Nevada
billionaire, Robert Bigelow.
733
00:36:59,654 --> 00:37:02,389
These individuals became
friends with Robert Bigelow,
734
00:37:02,422 --> 00:37:03,758
and they became
involved with him.
735
00:37:03,791 --> 00:37:06,627
Shortly after that,
another organization
736
00:37:06,661 --> 00:37:08,129
was formed called NIDS,
737
00:37:08,162 --> 00:37:10,598
National Institute
of Discovery Science.
738
00:37:10,631 --> 00:37:12,066
And Bigelow funded that,
739
00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:15,435
and it involved all these
same people and others.
740
00:37:15,469 --> 00:37:17,304
Shortly after forming NIDS,
741
00:37:17,337 --> 00:37:22,242
Robert Bigelow bought the famous
paranormal site known as Skinwalker Ranch.
742
00:37:22,275 --> 00:37:24,645
John Alexander was there.
743
00:37:24,679 --> 00:37:25,880
I was with Bob,
744
00:37:26,714 --> 00:37:28,049
Robert Bigelow who owned it.
745
00:37:28,082 --> 00:37:30,250
I was with Bob the day
he bought the ranch.
746
00:37:30,283 --> 00:37:32,486
Was the first one to,
747
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,655
you know, spend the night.
748
00:37:34,689 --> 00:37:37,024
We spent years looking at that.
749
00:37:37,058 --> 00:37:40,027
He would go on to
personally witness events
750
00:37:40,061 --> 00:37:42,196
that led him to
startling conclusions
751
00:37:42,230 --> 00:37:45,465
about the complexity of
unexplained phenomenon.
752
00:37:45,499 --> 00:37:48,736
There was no single phenomenon
that was happening at the ranch.
753
00:37:48,770 --> 00:37:52,673
The stories are so bizarre,
what you end up, though,
754
00:37:52,707 --> 00:37:56,077
with is something that
is terribly complex,
755
00:37:56,110 --> 00:37:59,080
maybe more complex
than we can imagine.
756
00:38:01,783 --> 00:38:04,051
It wasn't long before
strange reports
757
00:38:04,085 --> 00:38:06,020
of unusual activity at the ranch
758
00:38:06,053 --> 00:38:09,891
attracted the attention of the
Defense Intelligence Agency.
759
00:38:09,924 --> 00:38:11,526
You look at the guys involved,
760
00:38:11,559 --> 00:38:14,929
and some of them were, I mean,
we're talking PhD-level scientists.
761
00:38:14,962 --> 00:38:19,066
Robert Bigelow went on to form
Bigelow Advanced Aerospace Studies,
762
00:38:19,100 --> 00:38:22,103
BAASS, as the evolved
version of NIDs.
763
00:38:22,136 --> 00:38:26,607
He was quickly rewarded with a
Defense Intelligence Agency contract
764
00:38:26,641 --> 00:38:30,845
to study subjects closely
tied to the UAP phenomenon.
765
00:38:30,878 --> 00:38:33,313
According to the
original contract,
766
00:38:33,346 --> 00:38:35,149
some of these topics included,
767
00:38:35,183 --> 00:38:39,954
Lift, Propulsion,
Control, Power Generation,
768
00:38:39,987 --> 00:38:42,156
Spatial/Temporal Translation,
769
00:38:42,190 --> 00:38:45,593
Materials, Structural
Configuration,
770
00:38:45,626 --> 00:38:48,663
Signature Reduction,
Human Interface,
771
00:38:48,696 --> 00:38:51,933
Human Effects, and Armament.
772
00:38:51,966 --> 00:38:54,268
At one point, BAASS
brought on MUFON,
773
00:38:54,302 --> 00:38:55,870
the Mutual UFO Network,
774
00:38:55,903 --> 00:38:58,906
to help in the study of UFO
events around the world.
775
00:38:58,940 --> 00:39:01,709
Richard Lang ran the
program inside MUFON.
776
00:39:01,742 --> 00:39:03,544
When we put this
program together,
777
00:39:03,578 --> 00:39:05,345
basically what they were doing
778
00:39:05,378 --> 00:39:10,151
is they were paying MUFON
for data every month.
779
00:39:10,184 --> 00:39:12,086
At the time that we
put this all together,
780
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:14,856
we didn't know that the
DIA was funding this.
781
00:39:14,889 --> 00:39:17,390
I knew based on some of
the conversations I had
782
00:39:17,424 --> 00:39:21,394
that there was somebody funding
that, that wasn't Bigelow,
783
00:39:21,428 --> 00:39:22,597
but I didn't know who it was.
784
00:39:22,630 --> 00:39:24,866
I assumed it was some
government agency.
785
00:39:27,134 --> 00:39:29,436
The BAASS program
was called AAWSAP.
786
00:39:29,469 --> 00:39:33,774
It was the precursor program
to what we now know as AATIP.
787
00:39:33,808 --> 00:39:39,046
Lue Elizondo says he took over the
remains of the program in 2009.
788
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:44,185
So the initial focus of AATIP,
which was really AAWSAP,
789
00:39:44,218 --> 00:39:46,453
was very broad.
790
00:39:46,486 --> 00:39:50,992
So imagine trying to shoot
a fly with a shotgun, right?
791
00:39:51,959 --> 00:39:53,337
Chances are you
probably hit the fly,
792
00:39:53,361 --> 00:39:55,696
but chances are you're
going to hit a lot more.
793
00:39:55,730 --> 00:39:58,599
So we quickly realized that we
were getting a lot of information
794
00:39:58,633 --> 00:40:01,335
as a result of this
broad focus very quickly,
795
00:40:01,369 --> 00:40:03,680
and we frankly, just didn't have
the staff to deal with it all.
796
00:40:03,704 --> 00:40:06,140
So a decision was made early on
797
00:40:06,173 --> 00:40:09,810
to focus a program, the
program was renamed to AATIP,
798
00:40:09,844 --> 00:40:13,147
and really use, let's
say, instead of a shotgun,
799
00:40:13,180 --> 00:40:15,950
maybe we're going to use a
sniper rifle this time, right?
800
00:40:15,983 --> 00:40:19,987
So much more focused on what it
is we were trying to collect,
801
00:40:20,021 --> 00:40:24,725
and try to digest this
elephant, one bite at a time.
802
00:40:24,759 --> 00:40:27,561
And so the focus of
AATIP was indeed...
803
00:40:27,595 --> 00:40:29,330
Was indeed the phenomenon.
804
00:40:30,998 --> 00:40:33,567
Again, the challenge
is, where do you start?
805
00:40:33,601 --> 00:40:36,337
We have got, and
we may well get,
806
00:40:36,871 --> 00:40:38,105
interesting information,
807
00:40:38,139 --> 00:40:39,707
but we may never get all of it.
808
00:40:39,740 --> 00:40:42,376
What I'm afraid happens,
too, is that somebody
809
00:40:42,410 --> 00:40:47,447
that has this knowledge,
passes away or goes on,
810
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,418
and then the new person
coming in doesn't quite
811
00:40:50,450 --> 00:40:52,219
grasp what's going on.
812
00:40:52,253 --> 00:40:56,290
One difficulty with getting
information from the military is,
813
00:40:56,324 --> 00:40:58,793
those who say don't know.
814
00:40:58,826 --> 00:41:01,461
Those who know don't say.
815
00:41:01,494 --> 00:41:03,774
In other words, when someone
says that they know everything
816
00:41:03,798 --> 00:41:08,102
about what's happening with the
military, then don't believe it.
817
00:41:08,135 --> 00:41:10,938
Because maybe there are
things that they don't know.
818
00:41:10,972 --> 00:41:14,474
So I think the mantra
here is "Beware".
819
00:41:14,508 --> 00:41:15,609
That is, be cautious.
820
00:41:15,643 --> 00:41:19,046
Don't believe everything
you hear from the military.
821
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,757
These private corporations
that are running
822
00:41:20,781 --> 00:41:23,117
the special access programs,
they are the Mafia.
823
00:41:24,185 --> 00:41:27,888
They don't want anything
examining what they do.
824
00:41:27,922 --> 00:41:29,790
They've got the future
in their possession.
825
00:41:29,824 --> 00:41:33,561
They've got the most exotic
technology and science imaginable,
826
00:41:33,594 --> 00:41:35,029
and they have it.
827
00:41:35,062 --> 00:41:37,765
Why would they possibly
want to share it?
828
00:41:37,798 --> 00:41:39,967
Anybody that does
know the truth,
829
00:41:40,001 --> 00:41:41,569
I don't know their name.
830
00:41:41,602 --> 00:41:43,070
You don't know their name.
831
00:41:43,104 --> 00:41:45,006
They are not in the
public right now.
832
00:41:45,039 --> 00:41:46,874
They are not
speaking to anybody.
833
00:41:46,907 --> 00:41:48,442
They're not on camera.
834
00:41:48,476 --> 00:41:49,610
You don't know them.
835
00:41:49,643 --> 00:41:51,946
And that's where the dark
programs, I think, come in.
836
00:41:51,979 --> 00:41:53,781
The Skunk Works and
things like that.
837
00:41:53,814 --> 00:41:58,219
It's where the government and big
business somehow are interlocked,
838
00:41:58,252 --> 00:42:02,256
that we don't know and
there's somebody knows.
839
00:42:02,289 --> 00:42:05,259
Somebody is getting that money
and it's going somewhere.
840
00:42:09,930 --> 00:42:12,533
When it came to
investigating UFO mystery,
841
00:42:12,566 --> 00:42:14,001
a lot of people used to say
842
00:42:14,035 --> 00:42:17,071
that all roads lead to
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.
843
00:42:17,104 --> 00:42:18,406
But in the last few years,
844
00:42:18,439 --> 00:42:21,075
and especially some of the
more controversial subjects,
845
00:42:21,108 --> 00:42:23,744
a lot of the roads
lead right here.
846
00:42:23,778 --> 00:42:26,080
Recently declassified documents
847
00:42:26,113 --> 00:42:28,883
now shed light on the
other aspects of BAASS
848
00:42:28,916 --> 00:42:31,252
and information that
may have originated
849
00:42:31,285 --> 00:42:33,754
from some of these
older programs.
850
00:42:33,788 --> 00:42:35,289
Since the early 1900s,
851
00:42:35,322 --> 00:42:38,125
there have been reports
of crashed UFOs.
852
00:42:38,159 --> 00:42:39,493
For over a century,
853
00:42:39,528 --> 00:42:42,396
hundreds of witnesses have
shared their accounts.
854
00:42:42,430 --> 00:42:46,000
There were 119 alleged
crash retrieval cases.
855
00:42:46,033 --> 00:42:48,169
All we need is one to be true,
856
00:42:48,202 --> 00:42:50,871
and it's disclosure right
there. All we need is one.
857
00:42:50,905 --> 00:42:53,941
So, some of the cases
that come to mind
858
00:42:53,974 --> 00:42:58,179
are certainly 1941, Cape
Girardeau, Missouri,
859
00:42:58,212 --> 00:43:00,114
where there were three
bodies recovered.
860
00:43:00,147 --> 00:43:01,849
The craft was recovered as well.
861
00:43:01,882 --> 00:43:05,186
It's alleged that the bodies
in the craft were stored,
862
00:43:05,219 --> 00:43:06,487
not at the Pentagon,
863
00:43:06,521 --> 00:43:08,923
because the Pentagon
didn't exist in '41,
864
00:43:08,956 --> 00:43:12,660
but in the basement of the Capitol
Building in Washington, D.C.
865
00:43:12,693 --> 00:43:14,895
So that's 1941, Cape Girardeau.
866
00:43:14,929 --> 00:43:16,931
Now, move fast
forward six years,
867
00:43:16,964 --> 00:43:19,433
you've got July 2nd, 1947.
868
00:43:19,467 --> 00:43:21,936
You've got the Roswell
Crash retrieval.
869
00:43:21,969 --> 00:43:23,871
There was a small
egg-shaped craft
870
00:43:23,904 --> 00:43:26,040
the size of a Volkswagen
with a dome on top.
871
00:43:26,073 --> 00:43:27,408
There were five
bodies recovered,
872
00:43:27,441 --> 00:43:29,443
one was still alive,
so that's Roswell.
873
00:43:29,477 --> 00:43:31,479
Move forward in 1953,
874
00:43:31,513 --> 00:43:33,314
you've got the Kingman.
875
00:43:33,347 --> 00:43:38,652
This is not the crash retrieval,
but it is a forced landing.
876
00:43:38,686 --> 00:43:40,555
There were four
beings associated
877
00:43:40,589 --> 00:43:43,257
with that particular
retrieval operation.
878
00:43:43,290 --> 00:43:46,595
They were all live, they
did establish contact.
879
00:43:46,627 --> 00:43:49,663
That craft was allegedly brought
to the remote test site in Nevada.
880
00:43:49,697 --> 00:43:54,301
Now, prior to that, we've got
the '48 Aztec crash retrieval.
881
00:43:54,335 --> 00:43:58,139
This was a 99.9 foot
diameter, disk-shaped craft,
882
00:43:58,172 --> 00:44:02,511
that had kind of a silver
outer exterior color.
883
00:44:02,544 --> 00:44:05,913
There were two bodies recovered
on the upper dome of the craft
884
00:44:05,946 --> 00:44:09,216
in the central part of the rim
of the craft. On the interior,
885
00:44:09,250 --> 00:44:12,753
there were another 14 bodies
for a grand total of 16 bodies.
886
00:44:12,786 --> 00:44:17,091
That craft was allegedly brought
back to Los Alamos, reassembled,
887
00:44:17,124 --> 00:44:21,563
and then the retrieval operation or
the reverse engineering operation
888
00:44:21,596 --> 00:44:22,963
began at that point.
889
00:44:22,997 --> 00:44:25,634
These are some of the
retrieval operations
890
00:44:25,666 --> 00:44:29,638
in cases that come to mind that,
if we could get one of these,
891
00:44:29,670 --> 00:44:34,509
the evidence for one of these, it would
push this field of ufology forward.
892
00:44:34,543 --> 00:44:38,145
There's a red line in this whole process
that you're not allowed to cross.
893
00:44:38,179 --> 00:44:41,315
And the red line is,
well, the conspiracy line.
894
00:44:41,348 --> 00:44:43,984
The red line is basically
crash retrievals,
895
00:44:44,018 --> 00:44:46,153
because if you acknowledge
896
00:44:46,187 --> 00:44:48,557
that there had been
retrievals of this technology,
897
00:44:49,123 --> 00:44:50,457
and bodies,
898
00:44:50,491 --> 00:44:53,961
there is no way to avoid
the obvious conclusion
899
00:44:53,994 --> 00:44:55,496
that this is a conspiracy.
900
00:44:55,530 --> 00:44:59,634
Areas of materials recovery to
the extent that they have been
901
00:44:59,668 --> 00:45:03,270
recovered in crashes,
are heavily classified,
902
00:45:03,304 --> 00:45:05,507
so we don't have access
to that material.
903
00:45:07,875 --> 00:45:10,844
We know about programs
that have existed to study
904
00:45:10,878 --> 00:45:14,448
and attempt to reverse
engineer this technology.
905
00:45:14,481 --> 00:45:17,718
The evidence has been
circumstantial at best.
906
00:45:17,751 --> 00:45:19,420
Until now.
907
00:45:19,453 --> 00:45:22,557
Included in the
2017 media flurry,
908
00:45:22,591 --> 00:45:25,694
was an additional story
by The New York Times.
909
00:45:25,726 --> 00:45:28,697
And they took the conversation
right to the edge,
910
00:45:28,729 --> 00:45:31,533
of crash retrievals.
Right to the precipice.
911
00:45:31,566 --> 00:45:33,834
If they took one more step,
they're going off that cliff
912
00:45:33,867 --> 00:45:36,437
and we're talking about
genuine UFO cash retrievals.
913
00:45:36,470 --> 00:45:38,583
What we do know, and what we
put in The New York Times,
914
00:45:38,607 --> 00:45:42,376
and I'm pretty proud of this because
it was as far as we could go,
915
00:45:42,409 --> 00:45:48,617
that was fully documented, was that
a congressional committee's staff
916
00:45:48,650 --> 00:45:55,557
were briefed on with slides
referring to material recovery.
917
00:45:55,590 --> 00:45:59,226
Apparent material recovery
from crashed UFOs...
918
00:45:59,994 --> 00:46:02,763
off-Earth, off-planet vehicles.
919
00:46:02,796 --> 00:46:05,667
They quoted Eric Davis,
they quoted Harry Reid,
920
00:46:05,700 --> 00:46:08,637
both very positively
921
00:46:08,670 --> 00:46:11,972
about UFO crash... Can you
imagine what that's like
922
00:46:12,006 --> 00:46:14,842
for The New York Times to talk
about UFO crash retrievals?
923
00:46:14,875 --> 00:46:17,211
Senator Harry Reid
was quoted as saying
924
00:46:17,244 --> 00:46:20,314
that materials recovered
from off-world craft
925
00:46:20,347 --> 00:46:22,983
were studied as part
of the AAWSAP Program.
926
00:46:23,017 --> 00:46:25,986
After the story broke,
Senator Reid strongly objected
927
00:46:26,020 --> 00:46:29,691
to some of the wording of the
story and demanded a retraction.
928
00:46:29,724 --> 00:46:31,892
The verbiage was
changed slightly,
929
00:46:31,925 --> 00:46:35,829
but The Times still sticks
by its original reporting.
930
00:46:35,863 --> 00:46:39,833
Stories in The New York Times were
fully documented, with named sources.
931
00:46:39,867 --> 00:46:43,237
We didn't put in information
that hid the origin.
932
00:46:43,270 --> 00:46:44,606
It was very transparent.
933
00:46:44,639 --> 00:46:46,273
We said where we
got the information,
934
00:46:46,307 --> 00:46:47,642
we had briefing slides.
935
00:46:47,676 --> 00:46:50,477
One was put into a story
that we wrote in The Times.
936
00:46:50,512 --> 00:46:53,847
We actually had the
slide, you know,
937
00:46:53,881 --> 00:46:58,285
copied and and pictured
in The New York Times.
938
00:46:58,319 --> 00:47:01,523
Dr Eric Davis again
made an appearance.
939
00:47:01,556 --> 00:47:04,793
This time, it was reported that
he delivered a presentation
940
00:47:04,825 --> 00:47:06,994
behind the closed
doors of Congress,
941
00:47:07,027 --> 00:47:10,130
acknowledging that some
materials were recovered
942
00:47:10,164 --> 00:47:12,466
from off-world craft.
943
00:47:12,499 --> 00:47:15,637
Dr. Davis is quoted
elsewhere as saying,
944
00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:18,673
"We have crash retrievals
and they've been analyzed.
945
00:47:18,707 --> 00:47:22,644
"The program was terminated for lack
of progress in reverse engineering."
946
00:47:23,578 --> 00:47:25,613
Because there is no
way at that point
947
00:47:25,647 --> 00:47:28,315
that you can pretend
there's something out there,
948
00:47:28,349 --> 00:47:30,918
but we don't know what they
are. Which has been a little
949
00:47:30,951 --> 00:47:33,722
pretend game that everyone's
been playing all this time.
950
00:47:33,755 --> 00:47:35,557
Elizondo plays that game
951
00:47:35,590 --> 00:47:36,725
'cause he has to.
952
00:47:36,758 --> 00:47:38,827
'Cause he knows how
far he's allowed to go.
953
00:47:38,859 --> 00:47:41,629
I'm not a whistleblower,
and as far as a leaker,
954
00:47:41,663 --> 00:47:44,140
I'll be damned if someone's going to
call me a leaker, because a leaker's
955
00:47:44,164 --> 00:47:45,710
somebody who takes
classified information
956
00:47:45,734 --> 00:47:48,369
and provides it in an
unauthorized manner
957
00:47:48,402 --> 00:47:50,638
for the purpose of disclosure.
958
00:47:50,672 --> 00:47:53,006
I've never done that,
and I never will do that.
959
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,610
Do you think the
U.S. Government has
960
00:47:55,643 --> 00:47:58,011
debris from a UFO
in its possession?
961
00:47:58,045 --> 00:48:01,816
Unfortunately, Tucker, I really
have to be careful of my NDA.
962
00:48:01,850 --> 00:48:04,418
I really can't go into a
lot more detail than that.
963
00:48:04,451 --> 00:48:07,856
- Okay.
- But simply put, yes.
964
00:48:10,324 --> 00:48:12,326
Chris Melon, former
undersecretary
965
00:48:12,359 --> 00:48:16,997
of Defense for Intelligence,
said in a Washington Post Op Ed,
966
00:48:17,030 --> 00:48:20,401
that the government had not
been studying the UFO topic,
967
00:48:20,434 --> 00:48:23,638
and because of his position,
he would know if it was.
968
00:48:23,671 --> 00:48:27,975
But when we pressed him on it,
he made a stunning statement.
969
00:48:28,008 --> 00:48:33,313
There's a bona fide issue
there, and I understand that...
970
00:48:33,347 --> 00:48:36,851
I was part of a process that
was supposedly reviewing
971
00:48:36,885 --> 00:48:40,120
all of the Defense Department
special access programs,
972
00:48:40,154 --> 00:48:44,559
and I'd also... People don't
generally understand this taxonomy,
973
00:48:44,592 --> 00:48:48,228
but there is a world of programs
within the Defense Department
974
00:48:48,262 --> 00:48:51,365
that is entirely separate and distinct
from the Intelligence community,
975
00:48:51,398 --> 00:48:53,568
and is not shared with the
Intelligence community.
976
00:48:53,601 --> 00:48:55,202
And to some extent, vice versa.
977
00:48:55,235 --> 00:48:58,372
In addition, there's a group of
programs at the Department of Energy,
978
00:48:58,405 --> 00:49:00,809
and again, those are
not generally shared.
979
00:49:00,842 --> 00:49:04,378
So, there's sort of three galaxies
which intersect to some degree
980
00:49:04,411 --> 00:49:06,881
of very tightly held programs.
981
00:49:06,915 --> 00:49:12,953
I was very deep on two of the
tree, had some access to the third.
982
00:49:12,986 --> 00:49:16,390
But as I've often said to people,
"You don't know, what you don't know."
983
00:49:16,423 --> 00:49:22,229
And you know, there is a possibility
that there is some very small...
984
00:49:22,262 --> 00:49:26,967
tightly held close hold group, for example,
that has some crash debris or something,
985
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,202
and was working that...
986
00:49:28,235 --> 00:49:30,971
The rest of the department,
and even we didn't know about
987
00:49:31,004 --> 00:49:33,775
at the Special Access
Program Oversight Committee.
988
00:49:35,743 --> 00:49:39,213
So now there are reports
of perhaps debris.
989
00:49:39,246 --> 00:49:42,349
Debris left over from UFOs.
990
00:49:42,382 --> 00:49:45,319
Even with thinly veiled
admissions from those in the know,
991
00:49:45,352 --> 00:49:49,824
and evidence pointing to corporations
having received materials to study,
992
00:49:49,858 --> 00:49:53,026
details about any of
these physical materials
993
00:49:53,060 --> 00:49:54,896
have been unverifiable.
994
00:49:54,929 --> 00:49:56,931
Recently, that changed.
995
00:50:01,401 --> 00:50:05,740
UFO investigator Anthony
Regalia finally received a reply
996
00:50:05,773 --> 00:50:09,644
to a Freedom of Information Act
request that he filed back in 2017,
997
00:50:09,677 --> 00:50:15,650
pertaining to "Physical debris recovered
by personnel of the Department of Defense
998
00:50:15,683 --> 00:50:19,019
"as residue, flotsam,
shot-off material
999
00:50:19,052 --> 00:50:22,590
"or crashed UAP, or
unidentified flying objects."
1000
00:50:22,624 --> 00:50:25,292
After two years of
going back and forth,
1001
00:50:25,325 --> 00:50:27,361
and Ragalia's
threat of lawsuits,
1002
00:50:27,394 --> 00:50:30,430
the DIA admitted
that it had documents
1003
00:50:30,464 --> 00:50:33,902
responsive to the request
on recovered debris,
1004
00:50:33,935 --> 00:50:38,405
and its analysis and a program
under which it was administered.
1005
00:50:38,438 --> 00:50:43,545
Included in the FOIA release, are reports
about a variety of advanced materials.
1006
00:50:43,578 --> 00:50:47,281
The reports speculated about
how they may be created,
1007
00:50:47,314 --> 00:50:49,316
and what they may be capable of.
1008
00:50:49,349 --> 00:50:52,620
One is a well-known
alloy, called Nitinol.
1009
00:50:52,654 --> 00:50:56,891
It's a shapeable, memory
retaining titanium alloy.
1010
00:50:56,925 --> 00:51:01,996
Nitinol enjoys wide use today
in a variety of applications.
1011
00:51:02,030 --> 00:51:05,567
But its capabilities bare
similarity to the many accounts
1012
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,202
about the so called
Roswell memory metal.
1013
00:51:09,236 --> 00:51:10,872
Hey, is it from a crash?
1014
00:51:12,472 --> 00:51:13,517
How do you know about that?
1015
00:51:13,541 --> 00:51:14,752
We heard about it on the radio.
1016
00:51:14,776 --> 00:51:16,109
Everybody's talking about it.
1017
00:51:20,147 --> 00:51:21,147
Abracadabra.
1018
00:51:24,151 --> 00:51:26,320
How'd it do that?
1019
00:51:26,353 --> 00:51:30,157
The origins of Nitinol help
make a case for stories
1020
00:51:30,190 --> 00:51:31,960
of extraterrestrial technology
1021
00:51:31,993 --> 00:51:35,095
being recovered and delivered
to science and industry.
1022
00:51:35,128 --> 00:51:40,535
It was supposedly invented in a
naval weapons research lab in 1959.
1023
00:51:40,568 --> 00:51:44,371
But its origins have been traced
back even further, to a corporation
1024
00:51:44,404 --> 00:51:47,008
called Battelle
Memorial Institute.
1025
00:51:47,041 --> 00:51:49,010
Since the late 1940s,
1026
00:51:49,043 --> 00:51:52,513
Battelle maintained a contract
to analyze metal samples
1027
00:51:52,547 --> 00:51:55,750
provided by Wright
Patterson Air Force Base.
1028
00:51:55,783 --> 00:52:00,521
Another is a class of materials
called metallic glass.
1029
00:52:04,324 --> 00:52:06,628
Transparent aluminum?
1030
00:52:06,661 --> 00:52:09,262
That's the ticket, laddie.
1031
00:52:09,296 --> 00:52:12,634
The material described in the
Star Trek film Voyage Home
1032
00:52:12,667 --> 00:52:16,504
in 1986 actually exists.
1033
00:52:16,537 --> 00:52:18,706
We find upon further research,
1034
00:52:18,740 --> 00:52:21,876
that the original patents for
this type of metallic glass
1035
00:52:21,909 --> 00:52:24,846
was initially
applied for in 1981
1036
00:52:24,879 --> 00:52:27,447
by the Raytheon Corporation.
1037
00:52:27,481 --> 00:52:30,450
These guys in the
Lockheed and TRW,
1038
00:52:30,484 --> 00:52:32,954
and McDonnell Douglas or Boeing,
1039
00:52:33,788 --> 00:52:36,924
General Electric, Raytheon...
1040
00:52:38,358 --> 00:52:42,830
Look, there's no way they're going
to voluntarily let this happen.
1041
00:52:45,332 --> 00:52:46,601
There's more.
1042
00:52:46,634 --> 00:52:49,771
We now enter the stunning
world of meta materials.
1043
00:52:49,804 --> 00:52:54,341
In this recording, from an interview
Lue Elizondo gave to the MUFON journal.
1044
00:52:54,374 --> 00:52:58,478
He discusses the finer points
of the materials claims.
1045
00:52:58,513 --> 00:53:02,650
So, it was never about
unidentified metal alloys.
1046
00:53:02,684 --> 00:53:04,786
Any second year metal
artist will tell you
1047
00:53:04,819 --> 00:53:07,187
elements are elements,
and we can figure it out.
1048
00:53:07,220 --> 00:53:11,425
What was actually discussed
was certain meta materials
1049
00:53:11,458 --> 00:53:18,533
in which they're isotopic ratios at
the molecular level are so unique,
1050
00:53:18,566 --> 00:53:22,770
and so precise, based
on the complexity
1051
00:53:22,804 --> 00:53:26,974
that the origins of those
materials remain unknown.
1052
00:53:27,008 --> 00:53:30,377
If we do encounter
extraterrestrial materials,
1053
00:53:30,410 --> 00:53:33,915
they would have isotopic ratios
that are not found on the earth
1054
00:53:33,948 --> 00:53:36,450
because of their
exposure to cosmic rays,
1055
00:53:36,483 --> 00:53:40,188
different kinds of manufacturer
they would differ from us.
1056
00:53:40,220 --> 00:53:46,194
And so that's one way to analyze the fact
that these are, in fact extraterrestrial,
1057
00:53:46,226 --> 00:53:48,896
because they have
different isotopic ratios.
1058
00:53:51,766 --> 00:53:55,103
There are more space age
materials described in the reports
1059
00:53:55,136 --> 00:53:57,905
that the Defense Intelligence
Agency acknowledges.
1060
00:53:57,939 --> 00:54:01,008
One type may be used
to slow down light.
1061
00:54:01,042 --> 00:54:03,778
And even bring light to
a complete standstill.
1062
00:54:03,811 --> 00:54:09,684
Another may induce invisibility by
manipulating refraction, reflectivity,
1063
00:54:09,717 --> 00:54:11,886
and increasing light absorption.
1064
00:54:11,919 --> 00:54:15,255
Meta materials allow
you to, in principle,
1065
00:54:15,288 --> 00:54:20,027
make objects invisible. In
principle, allow you to stop light.
1066
00:54:20,061 --> 00:54:22,163
In principle, allow
you to magnify things
1067
00:54:22,196 --> 00:54:25,166
beyond what we can do with
present day technology.
1068
00:54:25,199 --> 00:54:27,969
We can do that in
the microwave range.
1069
00:54:28,002 --> 00:54:31,572
We have not yet done it in
the optical frequencies.
1070
00:54:31,606 --> 00:54:34,575
Another has the interesting
ability to compress
1071
00:54:34,609 --> 00:54:36,511
electromagnetic energy.
1072
00:54:36,544 --> 00:54:38,880
Things that we would
consider impossible
1073
00:54:38,913 --> 00:54:40,882
would become child's play
1074
00:54:40,915 --> 00:54:46,554
if you have a technology that is
centuries more advanced than us.
1075
00:54:46,587 --> 00:54:50,258
Still another exhibits a
particular tunable resonance,
1076
00:54:50,323 --> 00:54:53,326
which was likely determined
during fabrication.
1077
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,664
You see, if these objects
come from a civilization
1078
00:54:56,697 --> 00:55:00,001
more advanced than ours,
they have mastered the art
1079
00:55:00,034 --> 00:55:03,604
of manipulating
individual atoms.
1080
00:55:03,638 --> 00:55:07,208
The reports on these materials
have something in common.
1081
00:55:07,241 --> 00:55:10,278
They all talk about what
the materials might do,
1082
00:55:10,310 --> 00:55:12,312
and their possible uses.
1083
00:55:12,345 --> 00:55:14,615
This seems to be an
indirect confirmation
1084
00:55:14,649 --> 00:55:18,451
that we didn't create them, and
we're not sure what they do.
1085
00:55:20,988 --> 00:55:24,859
And they have to be
analyzed on several levels.
1086
00:55:24,892 --> 00:55:27,695
First, they have to be
analyzed spectroscopically.
1087
00:55:27,728 --> 00:55:29,964
So we know what they're made of.
1088
00:55:29,997 --> 00:55:34,501
So let's say that there
is... There are materials
1089
00:55:34,535 --> 00:55:37,138
that some other
civilization has created
1090
00:55:37,171 --> 00:55:40,407
and that they have
atomic grade printing
1091
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,977
that we don't have today,
1092
00:55:43,010 --> 00:55:46,981
the only way to understand it is
to de-assemble it atom by atom.
1093
00:55:47,014 --> 00:55:50,618
Dr. Gary Nolan is a scientist
at Stanford University.
1094
00:55:50,651 --> 00:55:54,822
He publicly stated that a new
technique for mass spectrometry,
1095
00:55:54,856 --> 00:55:57,258
that he developed
attracted the attention
1096
00:55:57,291 --> 00:56:00,261
of those in possession
of UFO materials.
1097
00:56:00,294 --> 00:56:03,064
Well, there is one technology
1098
00:56:03,097 --> 00:56:06,499
that's in my lab called
Secondary Ion Mass Spec,
1099
00:56:06,534 --> 00:56:11,404
and we developed a company around
it and the technology for using it
1100
00:56:11,438 --> 00:56:15,776
to read biopsy material
from patients, right?
1101
00:56:15,810 --> 00:56:19,213
And we had a way of
labeling the biopsies
1102
00:56:19,247 --> 00:56:25,586
with metal tags delivered via antibodies,
and that would light up the tissue
1103
00:56:25,620 --> 00:56:29,857
in a way that would tell you something
about the distribution of those proteins
1104
00:56:29,891 --> 00:56:32,526
in cancer cells and
immune system cells.
1105
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,263
That's a very successful
technology that's worked very well.
1106
00:56:35,296 --> 00:56:39,634
It turns out that it was
tuned to look at metals...
1107
00:56:39,667 --> 00:56:42,036
right, because we were
using the metal tags
1108
00:56:42,069 --> 00:56:47,074
and so when in discussions
with Jacques and others,
1109
00:56:47,108 --> 00:56:49,243
that they said they had
these pieces of metal.
1110
00:56:49,277 --> 00:56:51,545
Well, I have an instrument
that's perfectly tuned
1111
00:56:51,579 --> 00:56:53,480
to look at metals,
so let's do it.
1112
00:56:53,514 --> 00:56:57,852
But what that stuff consisted of
and why they think it's off-planet,
1113
00:56:57,885 --> 00:57:00,288
and, you know, what the
testing showed about
1114
00:57:00,321 --> 00:57:04,992
the possibility that nothing
like that could appear on Earth.
1115
00:57:05,026 --> 00:57:07,862
That's all stuff we were
not able to get access to.
1116
00:57:07,895 --> 00:57:09,096
We don't know.
1117
00:57:09,130 --> 00:57:10,965
Upon release of
the FOIA request,
1118
00:57:10,998 --> 00:57:15,603
there was evidence of internal commotion
inside the DIA and the Pentagon.
1119
00:57:15,636 --> 00:57:17,138
You know, the powers that be...
1120
00:57:17,171 --> 00:57:18,572
I mean, there are such people.
1121
00:57:18,606 --> 00:57:20,207
I think they realized
1122
00:57:20,241 --> 00:57:22,019
"All right. You just went, you went
actually, as far as you can go,
1123
00:57:22,043 --> 00:57:23,553
"and in fact, you
went a little too far.
1124
00:57:23,577 --> 00:57:25,179
"We're going to dial it back."
1125
00:57:25,212 --> 00:57:27,949
Susan Gough, a
Pentagon spokesperson,
1126
00:57:27,982 --> 00:57:29,650
said that although she was aware
1127
00:57:29,684 --> 00:57:33,955
of the social media chatter, the
information provided by the DIA
1128
00:57:33,988 --> 00:57:37,725
actually relates in some way
to an advanced weapons program
1129
00:57:37,758 --> 00:57:39,492
and not UFO items.
1130
00:57:39,527 --> 00:57:41,171
But if you start with
different assumptions
1131
00:57:41,195 --> 00:57:43,064
about how something
might operate,
1132
00:57:43,097 --> 00:57:46,734
you can come up with
things that another
1133
00:57:46,767 --> 00:57:51,906
equally advanced civilization, America,
let's say, or Western civilization,
1134
00:57:51,939 --> 00:57:53,841
doesn't understand how it works.
1135
00:57:53,874 --> 00:57:56,777
But that doesn't mean
it came from E.T.
1136
00:57:56,811 --> 00:57:59,847
But I suspect that
Freedom of Information Act
1137
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:01,680
is talking about something
a little different.
1138
00:58:04,652 --> 00:58:07,688
Some of the main players
in the material story
1139
00:58:07,722 --> 00:58:12,526
were making new statements that
changed previously reported facts.
1140
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:13,361
Right. This is a counter...
1141
00:58:13,394 --> 00:58:15,329
This is The Empire Strikes Back.
1142
00:58:15,363 --> 00:58:18,933
This is what we're seeing. You're
seeing the major establishment,
1143
00:58:18,966 --> 00:58:21,068
which was on the back
foot for over three years
1144
00:58:21,102 --> 00:58:24,071
because of the offensive
of the UFO faction.
1145
00:58:24,105 --> 00:58:26,941
They were on retreat. They've
gathered their resources.
1146
00:58:26,974 --> 00:58:28,976
They're like, you know,
"We don't really want...
1147
00:58:29,010 --> 00:58:31,512
"We can't go any farther
than we've gone."
1148
00:58:31,545 --> 00:58:34,181
Harry Reid walked it back as
far as with The New York Times
1149
00:58:34,215 --> 00:58:39,086
about Lockheed having artifacts
and so, they get these phone calls.
1150
00:58:40,021 --> 00:58:41,789
I mean, why else...
1151
00:58:41,822 --> 00:58:44,825
You know, catch yourself
after the fact and go,
1152
00:58:44,859 --> 00:58:45,726
"I should have never said that."
1153
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:46,961
And there's a pattern here.
1154
00:58:46,994 --> 00:58:52,867
It always pertains
to physical evidence.
1155
00:58:52,900 --> 00:58:54,602
And in our New York Times story,
1156
00:58:54,635 --> 00:58:57,438
we said that a hangar was built
1157
00:58:58,606 --> 00:59:03,677
to contain materials, okay.
1158
00:59:03,711 --> 00:59:08,082
We didn't say that materials were
obtained and put in the hangar.
1159
00:59:08,115 --> 00:59:10,519
You did an interview
with Jesse Michaels.
1160
00:59:10,551 --> 00:59:14,121
- In that interview, you laid out some of the materials.
- Mmm-hmm.
1161
00:59:14,155 --> 00:59:16,490
Very excitingly,
we have parts...
1162
00:59:16,525 --> 00:59:19,727
Okay, the parts were a little
anti-climactic and small,
1163
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,030
but he claims to have much
bigger parts that we can't see
1164
00:59:23,064 --> 00:59:25,399
due to national
security sensitivities.
1165
00:59:25,433 --> 00:59:28,402
But then when you did
the interview with Lex,
1166
00:59:28,436 --> 00:59:32,173
you said that she had materials
just from, like, Jacques Vilet
1167
00:59:32,206 --> 00:59:33,874
which obviously
wouldn't be classified,
1168
00:59:33,908 --> 00:59:36,511
and from TTSA, which
wouldn't be classified.
1169
00:59:36,545 --> 00:59:41,449
There's two classes of materials
that I've been given by people,
1170
00:59:41,482 --> 00:59:43,884
and they're not given by, like,
the government or anything.
1171
00:59:43,918 --> 00:59:46,020
So have you studied
classified materials,
1172
00:59:46,053 --> 00:59:47,197
but you just don't have them?
1173
00:59:47,221 --> 00:59:48,789
I just shouldn't
say anything more.
1174
00:59:48,823 --> 00:59:50,000
You shouldn't say
anything about that.
1175
00:59:50,024 --> 00:59:51,459
Okay, all right.
1176
00:59:51,492 --> 00:59:53,203
You can put that on there. I
just can't say anything more.
1177
00:59:53,227 --> 00:59:54,462
Right. No, that's fine.
1178
00:59:54,495 --> 00:59:57,264
It might have been an
accidental truth moment.
1179
01:00:01,735 --> 01:00:06,707
FOIA responses are based on
reacting to very specific wording.
1180
01:00:06,740 --> 01:00:10,411
The FOIA response from the
DIA specifically refers
1181
01:00:10,444 --> 01:00:14,882
to recovered materials from UFOs
being studied at Bigelow Aerospace.
1182
01:00:14,915 --> 01:00:20,087
This is official confirmation that
these studies indeed occurred.
1183
01:00:20,121 --> 01:00:21,922
Bigelow Aerospace is massive.
1184
01:00:21,956 --> 01:00:25,059
It's surrounded on most sides
by these gigantic vacant lots.
1185
01:00:25,092 --> 01:00:29,163
It's surrounded by multiple layers
of fencing, including barbed wire,
1186
01:00:29,196 --> 01:00:33,100
video surveillance, 24-hour
security guards everywhere.
1187
01:00:33,134 --> 01:00:35,269
This place is a fortress.
1188
01:00:35,302 --> 01:00:40,542
Multiple reports also seemed to confirm
the presence of materials at the facility.
1189
01:00:40,575 --> 01:00:44,211
But after the release of the
documents, the story changed.
1190
01:00:44,245 --> 01:00:48,349
For years, one of the secret
studies was carried out by BAASS,
1191
01:00:48,382 --> 01:00:51,919
a Las Vegas operation hidden
within Bigelow Aerospace.
1192
01:00:51,952 --> 01:00:55,189
Documents first reported by
the I-Team show that BAASS
1193
01:00:55,222 --> 01:00:58,959
landed a contract with the
DIA, and one of the objectives
1194
01:00:58,993 --> 01:01:01,596
was to study so
called meta materials.
1195
01:01:01,630 --> 01:01:03,898
Multiple sources
have confirmed to us
1196
01:01:03,931 --> 01:01:07,401
there was a weird piece of
something at the Bigelow plant.
1197
01:01:07,434 --> 01:01:11,772
New York Times reported that
you modified your facility here
1198
01:01:11,805 --> 01:01:15,142
in order to house some
material from somewhere else.
1199
01:01:15,709 --> 01:01:16,709
Did you ever have it?
1200
01:01:18,078 --> 01:01:20,080
- Never had any.
- Did you ever see it?
1201
01:01:20,681 --> 01:01:22,917
Um...
1202
01:01:22,950 --> 01:01:26,987
But... I... you
know, do you see...
1203
01:01:27,021 --> 01:01:28,155
Do you see...
1204
01:01:30,858 --> 01:01:36,030
It's the old Raiders of the
Lost Ark warehouse scene.
1205
01:01:36,063 --> 01:01:37,698
"We've got our top
people working on it."
1206
01:01:37,731 --> 01:01:39,700
"Who are your top people?"
"Oh, they're top."
1207
01:01:39,733 --> 01:01:43,837
In March 2022, the Defense
Intelligence Agency
1208
01:01:43,871 --> 01:01:47,308
responded to another FOIA
request that demanded information
1209
01:01:47,341 --> 01:01:50,411
about the work of AATIP
and its previous versions.
1210
01:01:50,444 --> 01:01:55,416
The result was 1500 pages that
included 38 independent papers
1211
01:01:55,449 --> 01:01:57,985
about potential
advanced technology.
1212
01:01:58,018 --> 01:02:02,156
The authors of some of these
reports, are many of the same people
1213
01:02:02,189 --> 01:02:05,025
that have been involved
in secret UFO programs
1214
01:02:05,059 --> 01:02:07,328
all the way back
to the late 1960s.
1215
01:02:07,361 --> 01:02:12,667
These reports came in the form of
defense intelligence reference documents.
1216
01:02:12,701 --> 01:02:15,436
Some of the technologies
that were explored
1217
01:02:15,469 --> 01:02:18,439
include advanced
nuclear propulsion,
1218
01:02:18,472 --> 01:02:21,509
for manned deep space missions.
1219
01:02:21,543 --> 01:02:24,278
Aneutronic Fusion Propulsion,
1220
01:02:24,311 --> 01:02:28,182
Pulsed High-Power
Microwave Technology,
1221
01:02:28,215 --> 01:02:31,686
Antigravity for
Aerospace Applications.
1222
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:35,222
I think when talking about
extraterrestrial civilizations,
1223
01:02:35,256 --> 01:02:37,958
we have to be open to the
fact that their technology
1224
01:02:37,992 --> 01:02:42,229
is thousands of years more
advanced than our technology.
1225
01:02:42,263 --> 01:02:45,533
But then the question is,
is it possible that we,
1226
01:02:45,567 --> 01:02:51,038
that we humans can also partake of
some of these advanced technologies?
1227
01:02:51,071 --> 01:02:54,942
Space-Communication Implications
of Quantum Entanglement
1228
01:02:54,975 --> 01:03:01,015
and Nonlocality, High-Frequency
Gravitational Wave Communications.
1229
01:03:01,048 --> 01:03:03,851
I take two objects,
1230
01:03:03,884 --> 01:03:07,321
two particles that are
quantumly entangled,
1231
01:03:07,354 --> 01:03:10,759
and if I do something to
this one, this one responds.
1232
01:03:10,791 --> 01:03:14,261
And if you separate
those two by a foot...
1233
01:03:14,295 --> 01:03:16,531
when I do something here,
something happens here.
1234
01:03:16,564 --> 01:03:17,974
But something even
more magical happens
1235
01:03:17,998 --> 01:03:20,934
that when I take these objects,
and I put them one here
1236
01:03:20,968 --> 01:03:23,672
and one at the farthest end
of the visible universe,
1237
01:03:23,705 --> 01:03:26,840
that direction, 13.5
billion light years,
1238
01:03:26,874 --> 01:03:28,075
and I take the other particle,
1239
01:03:28,108 --> 01:03:32,614
I put it in that direction,
13.5 billion light years away,
1240
01:03:32,647 --> 01:03:34,415
when I do this,
1241
01:03:34,448 --> 01:03:37,885
this one responds
instantaneously.
1242
01:03:37,918 --> 01:03:42,557
- Traversable Wormholes, -
Stargates and Negative Energy.
1243
01:03:42,590 --> 01:03:46,026
Special relativity says you
cannot break the light barrier.
1244
01:03:46,060 --> 01:03:49,531
But special relativity
has a loophole.
1245
01:03:49,564 --> 01:03:52,066
The loophole is
general relativity,
1246
01:03:52,099 --> 01:03:53,668
the theory of gravity,
1247
01:03:53,702 --> 01:03:57,338
whereby you can bend time
and space into a pretzel
1248
01:03:57,371 --> 01:04:00,174
if you have enough
matter and energy.
1249
01:04:00,207 --> 01:04:06,080
An energy which we won't have, perhaps
for another 100,000 to one million years.
1250
01:04:06,113 --> 01:04:08,349
So it's not for us.
1251
01:04:08,382 --> 01:04:11,251
Perhaps for an
extraterrestrial civilization,
1252
01:04:11,285 --> 01:04:13,287
but it's not for us.
1253
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,523
Warp Drive, Dark Energy
1254
01:04:15,557 --> 01:04:18,292
and the manipulation
of extra dimensions.
1255
01:04:18,325 --> 01:04:23,732
We have to be open to the possibility
that there are other dimensions,
1256
01:04:23,765 --> 01:04:25,199
and shortcuts.
1257
01:04:25,232 --> 01:04:29,036
Perhaps shortcuts between
different universes.
1258
01:04:29,069 --> 01:04:30,371
Now, of course, moving through
1259
01:04:30,404 --> 01:04:33,240
these higher dimensions,
would require a technology
1260
01:04:33,273 --> 01:04:36,143
much more advanced
than anything we have.
1261
01:04:36,176 --> 01:04:40,414
Concepts for extracting energy
from the quantum vacuum.
1262
01:04:40,447 --> 01:04:42,751
You would have to be a
very advanced civilization
1263
01:04:42,784 --> 01:04:46,554
to get net usable
energy from nothing.
1264
01:04:46,588 --> 01:04:48,790
In other words, it's not for us.
1265
01:04:48,823 --> 01:04:52,694
That doesn't mean an advanced
civilization can't do it.
1266
01:04:52,727 --> 01:04:56,096
Quantum computing, and
utilizing organic molecules
1267
01:04:56,130 --> 01:04:58,633
in automation technology.
1268
01:04:58,666 --> 01:05:02,302
Technological approaches to
controlling external devices,
1269
01:05:02,336 --> 01:05:04,938
in the absence of limb
operated interfaces.
1270
01:05:04,972 --> 01:05:09,476
Our most advanced understanding
of the brain comes from BCI,
1271
01:05:09,511 --> 01:05:12,212
Brain Computer Interface.
1272
01:05:12,246 --> 01:05:15,949
We can take a chip, put it
on the surface of the brain,
1273
01:05:15,983 --> 01:05:19,019
have that chip connected
to a laptop computer
1274
01:05:19,052 --> 01:05:23,625
that then analyzes the impulses
of the brain and deciphers it,
1275
01:05:23,658 --> 01:05:26,694
and then uses it to
control something.
1276
01:05:26,728 --> 01:05:29,731
And so you can imagine
what we can do today
1277
01:05:29,764 --> 01:05:33,066
and then extrapolate
to the future.
1278
01:05:33,100 --> 01:05:36,704
Aerospace applications
of programmable matter.
1279
01:05:36,738 --> 01:05:40,575
If you could design
something, atom by atom,
1280
01:05:40,608 --> 01:05:44,011
and position things
atom by atom,
1281
01:05:44,044 --> 01:05:47,582
then there's a lot more we
could do with material science
1282
01:05:47,615 --> 01:05:49,450
than we can do today.
1283
01:05:49,483 --> 01:05:54,656
Ultra capacitors as energy
and power storage devices.
1284
01:05:54,689 --> 01:05:57,759
Role of superconductors
in gravity research.
1285
01:05:57,792 --> 01:06:04,231
Most of what we create today,
in even the superconductor areas
1286
01:06:04,264 --> 01:06:07,034
is basically recipes.
1287
01:06:07,067 --> 01:06:08,770
They are not designs.
1288
01:06:08,803 --> 01:06:12,907
Many of these technologies are
beyond the realm of current science.
1289
01:06:12,941 --> 01:06:15,142
These technologies are discussed
1290
01:06:15,175 --> 01:06:19,046
as if someone knows that
they are entirely possible,
1291
01:06:19,079 --> 01:06:22,249
even in some stage of
successful development.
1292
01:06:22,282 --> 01:06:25,854
I will tell you unequivocally
if a man like Robert Bigelow
1293
01:06:25,887 --> 01:06:29,591
were to ask you, to come on
board and to do something,
1294
01:06:29,624 --> 01:06:35,395
man, I would do it in
the blink of an eye.
1295
01:06:35,429 --> 01:06:37,397
It would be almost reflexive.
1296
01:06:37,431 --> 01:06:39,199
When do we start? Let's go.
1297
01:06:39,233 --> 01:06:41,468
He's a good man, and
he's also a patriot.
1298
01:06:41,502 --> 01:06:43,771
Machinery really does exist.
1299
01:06:45,038 --> 01:06:46,975
Does exist.
1300
01:06:47,007 --> 01:06:53,113
That the problem has been the
inability to back engineer
1301
01:06:53,146 --> 01:06:57,919
and I kind of think that some...
1302
01:06:57,952 --> 01:07:01,455
Some things require a
weightless environment.
1303
01:07:10,732 --> 01:07:12,432
It is generally accepted
1304
01:07:12,466 --> 01:07:15,502
that the New Narrative
broke in late 2017.
1305
01:07:15,537 --> 01:07:19,774
It was actually Robert Bigelow,
who made spellbinding revelations
1306
01:07:19,807 --> 01:07:24,044
before anybody knew that he was
involved in government contracts
1307
01:07:24,077 --> 01:07:25,613
to study UFOs.
1308
01:07:29,316 --> 01:07:30,852
Do you believe in aliens?
1309
01:07:30,885 --> 01:07:33,721
I am absolutely convinced.
That's all there is to it.
1310
01:07:33,755 --> 01:07:36,724
Do you also believe that
UFOs have come to Earth?
1311
01:07:36,758 --> 01:07:40,327
There has been, and is an existing
presence an E.T. presence.
1312
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,540
You have the interview that
Robert Bigelow did on 60 Minutes.
1313
01:07:42,564 --> 01:07:45,399
Really, an amazing interview.
1314
01:07:45,432 --> 01:07:49,904
This is one of the most
knowledgeable people on this planet,
1315
01:07:49,938 --> 01:07:52,205
in my view, on the
subject of UFOs,
1316
01:07:52,239 --> 01:07:55,409
He's also a billionaire, and he's also
got a lot of influence in this world.
1317
01:07:55,442 --> 01:07:58,046
And here he is saying,
aliens are real
1318
01:07:58,078 --> 01:08:00,414
and indeed they are
actually walking among us.
1319
01:08:00,447 --> 01:08:03,017
His unshakable statement
regarding the reality
1320
01:08:03,051 --> 01:08:05,419
of an extraterrestrial presence,
1321
01:08:05,452 --> 01:08:07,989
drew some media reaction.
1322
01:08:08,022 --> 01:08:10,525
Its significance
did not become clear
1323
01:08:10,558 --> 01:08:13,093
until the story of
Bigelow Aerospace
1324
01:08:13,126 --> 01:08:16,631
and its role in AATIP
began to unfold.
1325
01:08:16,664 --> 01:08:21,435
The New York Times came out with a couple
of articles essentially downplaying any E.T.
1326
01:08:21,468 --> 01:08:23,103
component of these sightings,
1327
01:08:23,136 --> 01:08:27,075
but also playing down the fact
that they may be Russian or Chinese
1328
01:08:27,107 --> 01:08:34,749
and also playing down the fact that these
are advanced U.S. classified prototypes.
1329
01:08:34,782 --> 01:08:36,392
If they're going to play
all of those things down,
1330
01:08:36,416 --> 01:08:41,321
then I would ask, what gets played
up? Because there is nothing left.
1331
01:08:41,355 --> 01:08:44,157
Confronted with the challenge
of weaving Robert Bigelow's
1332
01:08:44,191 --> 01:08:45,693
informed beliefs
1333
01:08:45,727 --> 01:08:48,096
into the story Chris
Mellon had revealed,
1334
01:08:48,128 --> 01:08:51,264
-Mellon said this,
-There aren't many people
1335
01:08:51,298 --> 01:08:55,737
associated with the
establishment who are so bold
1336
01:08:55,770 --> 01:08:59,974
and willing to make
statements like that.
1337
01:09:00,008 --> 01:09:05,079
Many of the Navy pilots themselves
who've engaged these crafts
1338
01:09:05,113 --> 01:09:09,249
go there because they can't conceive
of any other explanation, frankly.
1339
01:09:09,282 --> 01:09:12,854
When Lue Elizondo was asked
about Bigelow statements,
1340
01:09:12,887 --> 01:09:15,990
his response corroborated
Bigelow's position.
1341
01:09:16,024 --> 01:09:18,993
He has his own space
stations in space.
1342
01:09:19,027 --> 01:09:20,227
People say "What do you mean?"
1343
01:09:20,260 --> 01:09:24,264
Yeah, he has his own,
right now, in space.
1344
01:09:24,297 --> 01:09:27,334
I mean, I don't know who else
has done that, and by the way,
1345
01:09:27,367 --> 01:09:31,773
he's done it for a long time,
so give the guy some credit.
1346
01:09:31,806 --> 01:09:33,608
He knows what he's
talking about.
1347
01:09:35,810 --> 01:09:39,814
They have stated flatly
"They're not one of ours."
1348
01:09:39,847 --> 01:09:42,917
Then the question
is, whose are they?
1349
01:09:42,950 --> 01:09:45,352
All of the people involved
in the current narrative
1350
01:09:45,385 --> 01:09:47,121
are deliberately stopping short
1351
01:09:47,155 --> 01:09:52,259
of identifying the phenomenon as
originating from extraterrestrials.
1352
01:09:52,292 --> 01:09:56,664
We have all these tales going
back centuries, millennia,
1353
01:09:56,698 --> 01:09:59,934
about visitations
and strange beings.
1354
01:09:59,967 --> 01:10:04,404
Maybe it's a record of visits
from alien civilizations.
1355
01:10:04,438 --> 01:10:08,810
You can't rule out the fact that, yeah,
maybe we have been visited in the past.
1356
01:10:08,843 --> 01:10:10,178
You can't rule it out.
1357
01:10:10,210 --> 01:10:14,048
So you say one by one,
they're not natural phenomena.
1358
01:10:15,449 --> 01:10:16,851
They're not weather balloons.
1359
01:10:16,884 --> 01:10:18,119
They're not U.S. technology.
1360
01:10:18,152 --> 01:10:19,987
They're not Russian.
They're not Chinese.
1361
01:10:20,922 --> 01:10:22,489
They're not optical illusions.
1362
01:10:22,523 --> 01:10:26,094
They're not mental illness on the
part of the people who report them.
1363
01:10:26,127 --> 01:10:28,796
Because these are our most
highly trained experts
1364
01:10:28,830 --> 01:10:30,841
who are reporting these things,
and they've been caught on,
1365
01:10:30,865 --> 01:10:35,703
as I said, Navy instrumentation.
So what are you left with?
1366
01:10:35,737 --> 01:10:37,270
Well, no one is going there.
1367
01:10:37,304 --> 01:10:40,307
Our view is, let's follow
the trail wherever it leads.
1368
01:10:40,340 --> 01:10:41,241
Let's get the data,
1369
01:10:41,274 --> 01:10:43,276
the best evidence possible.
1370
01:10:43,310 --> 01:10:46,981
There's probably more than
one phenomenon at work here.
1371
01:10:47,014 --> 01:10:49,684
They refused to
say the "A" word.
1372
01:10:50,383 --> 01:10:53,054
Alien. Why?
1373
01:10:53,087 --> 01:10:56,758
You know, assuming that these
things are all of alien origin...
1374
01:10:58,826 --> 01:11:01,863
for a variety reasons, in
part because people shut down
1375
01:11:01,896 --> 01:11:07,101
and it impedes our progress
and some of the allies
1376
01:11:07,135 --> 01:11:09,604
and people that we
need to bring to bear,
1377
01:11:09,637 --> 01:11:12,472
who are sort of now
getting on board,
1378
01:11:12,507 --> 01:11:16,944
wouldn't do so if we started with
the premise that these are aliens.
1379
01:11:16,978 --> 01:11:19,647
I think the word
alien is a little...
1380
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,282
People are afraid
of the word alien.
1381
01:11:22,315 --> 01:11:25,686
You know, E.T,
extraterrestrial, non-humans.
1382
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,689
I've always concerned about
1383
01:11:28,723 --> 01:11:33,928
getting ahead of our
headlights, frankly,
1384
01:11:33,961 --> 01:11:36,296
and leaping to conclusions.
1385
01:11:36,329 --> 01:11:39,200
For me, it's more of
the thrill of the hunt.
1386
01:11:39,233 --> 01:11:42,270
It's trying to figure
out the unknowns
1387
01:11:42,302 --> 01:11:46,774
because once they are known,
they are no longer a mystery.
1388
01:11:46,808 --> 01:11:48,943
What it is, no
one's admitted yet.
1389
01:11:48,976 --> 01:11:51,212
And you've got plenty
of video evidence
1390
01:11:51,245 --> 01:11:56,349
of Lue and Chris not admitting
it because they can't say it.
1391
01:11:56,383 --> 01:11:58,920
But they've said it in
as many ways as you can.
1392
01:11:58,953 --> 01:12:02,156
Just anybody bright
enough to listen,
1393
01:12:02,190 --> 01:12:05,092
will, as you say, understand
the accidental truth.
1394
01:12:13,201 --> 01:12:19,472
During the interview in 2018, Lue
Elizondo gave us an accidental truth.
1395
01:12:19,507 --> 01:12:22,710
So, you've spoken about
some of the technologies
1396
01:12:22,743 --> 01:12:25,313
that are being studied as
a spin off the research
1397
01:12:25,345 --> 01:12:26,948
you did at AATIP.
1398
01:12:26,981 --> 01:12:32,086
Things like bending space-time, and
Einstein type possibilities that may unfold.
1399
01:12:32,119 --> 01:12:34,989
Is there an interdimensional
element to any of this
1400
01:12:35,022 --> 01:12:37,825
that you guys maybe explored?
1401
01:12:38,826 --> 01:12:40,628
Other dimensions may
absolutely exist.
1402
01:12:40,661 --> 01:12:42,997
You look at String
Theory, look at M Theory,
1403
01:12:43,030 --> 01:12:45,533
dimensions are all around us.
1404
01:12:45,566 --> 01:12:50,771
So I think you have to cast a wide
net when you're looking at this.
1405
01:12:50,805 --> 01:12:53,250
And that's why I've said before,
whether they're from outer space,
1406
01:12:53,274 --> 01:12:54,909
inner space or the
space in between,
1407
01:12:54,942 --> 01:12:58,179
we just don't know, and we
need to collect more data.
1408
01:12:58,212 --> 01:13:00,882
Is it possible?
Absolutely, it's possible.
1409
01:13:00,915 --> 01:13:03,684
Is it possible that they're
from the Pleiades? Sure.
1410
01:13:03,718 --> 01:13:04,995
Is it possible that
they're from...
1411
01:13:05,019 --> 01:13:06,988
They've been here all along
and they're from here,
1412
01:13:07,021 --> 01:13:10,423
they're just resonating
at a different vibration?
1413
01:13:10,457 --> 01:13:12,226
Sure.
1414
01:13:12,260 --> 01:13:15,529
It seems like the only
question that is answered
1415
01:13:15,563 --> 01:13:17,265
in the ones you just posed,
1416
01:13:17,298 --> 01:13:21,269
is that whether or not,
there is an actual "They."
1417
01:13:21,802 --> 01:13:23,871
That's a great question.
1418
01:13:23,905 --> 01:13:25,438
I don't know if I
can answer that.
1419
01:13:27,875 --> 01:13:31,312
A few seem willing to officially
pronounce the phenomenon
1420
01:13:31,345 --> 01:13:34,248
as originating from
extraterrestrials.
1421
01:13:34,282 --> 01:13:36,317
There is a
willingness to concede
1422
01:13:36,350 --> 01:13:39,419
that there might be
extraterrestrial involvement.
1423
01:13:39,452 --> 01:13:41,421
You know, what's here
is probably just an A.I.
1424
01:13:41,454 --> 01:13:45,993
I mean, why spend all your
time on one little planet
1425
01:13:46,027 --> 01:13:48,663
out in a dust speck at
the edge of the galaxy?
1426
01:13:48,696 --> 01:13:50,497
You send your robots.
1427
01:13:50,531 --> 01:13:54,101
The question is, what's
our definition of life?
1428
01:13:54,135 --> 01:13:57,738
I think life may
exist, may exist,
1429
01:13:57,772 --> 01:14:02,076
and I'll caveat that,
in all sorts of forms.
1430
01:14:02,109 --> 01:14:03,844
I don't think it's
necessarily going to be
1431
01:14:03,878 --> 01:14:08,916
something that we might recognize or
even initially even classify as life.
1432
01:14:08,950 --> 01:14:11,218
Because we don't have a
full understanding of it.
1433
01:14:11,252 --> 01:14:13,187
There is a growing consensus
1434
01:14:13,220 --> 01:14:15,756
that the extraterrestrial
hypothesis
1435
01:14:15,790 --> 01:14:17,858
doesn't answer all
of the questions.
1436
01:14:17,892 --> 01:14:22,363
There are multiple phenomena at work,
that cannot be explained completely
1437
01:14:22,396 --> 01:14:24,565
without looking at
other possibilities.
1438
01:14:24,598 --> 01:14:27,635
Maybe there's a whole range of
different phenomena at play here.
1439
01:14:27,668 --> 01:14:33,708
In fact, I think, given the differences
in what's been reported by people,
1440
01:14:33,741 --> 01:14:38,913
that's quite likely that there are many
different parallel strands to this.
1441
01:14:38,946 --> 01:14:42,516
But whatever is involved,
and as I say, I don't know,
1442
01:14:42,550 --> 01:14:48,723
I think it does raise important defense,
national security and air safety issues.
1443
01:14:48,756 --> 01:14:53,728
The E.T. hypothesis, for instance,
is a logical starting point.
1444
01:14:53,761 --> 01:14:55,529
If not from here, from where?
1445
01:14:55,563 --> 01:14:59,499
Until you start talking about,
well, what do you mean, where?
1446
01:14:59,533 --> 01:15:05,306
We think that an object is solid and
can only be one place at the same time.
1447
01:15:05,339 --> 01:15:09,810
But in quantum mechanics, electrons
can be two places at the same time.
1448
01:15:09,844 --> 01:15:11,479
In fact, they can
be many places,
1449
01:15:11,512 --> 01:15:14,515
and this is called
the multiverse idea.
1450
01:15:14,548 --> 01:15:19,020
The idea that we exist with
other universes simultaneously.
1451
01:15:19,553 --> 01:15:20,588
Well, wait a minute.
1452
01:15:20,621 --> 01:15:24,091
We're talking about
multi-dimensional realities.
1453
01:15:24,125 --> 01:15:26,027
But doesn't really
matter how far you go
1454
01:15:26,060 --> 01:15:28,362
in a three-dimensional
space and distance,
1455
01:15:28,396 --> 01:15:32,099
that there are shortcuts,
and those shortcuts exist
1456
01:15:33,300 --> 01:15:35,202
as part of the natural universe.
1457
01:15:35,236 --> 01:15:37,538
So that is a real world
example where we know
1458
01:15:38,806 --> 01:15:40,608
other dimensions may
absolutely exist.
1459
01:15:40,641 --> 01:15:46,881
Whether it's extraterrestrial or
interdimensional, to me, is irrelevant
1460
01:15:46,914 --> 01:15:49,550
because whatever
it is, clearly has
1461
01:15:49,583 --> 01:15:53,154
the ability to manipulate
dimensionality.
1462
01:15:53,187 --> 01:15:58,459
These things can jump in
and out, appear, disappear.
1463
01:15:58,492 --> 01:16:02,196
And so, for all intents
and purposes, it's both.
1464
01:16:02,229 --> 01:16:07,668
In August of 2022, Dr. Hal Puthoff
released a paper in which he explored
1465
01:16:07,701 --> 01:16:10,404
other options for
what may be at work.
1466
01:16:10,438 --> 01:16:14,543
He presented concepts such
as ultra-terrestrial beings.
1467
01:16:14,575 --> 01:16:18,813
The concept that there could be
another intelligent race living with us
1468
01:16:18,846 --> 01:16:21,115
inside the Earth or under water.
1469
01:16:21,148 --> 01:16:23,984
A civilization with
advanced technology,
1470
01:16:24,018 --> 01:16:26,854
that has been here,
long before us.
1471
01:16:26,887 --> 01:16:28,656
Time travelers.
1472
01:16:28,689 --> 01:16:32,693
While mainstream science debates
the feasibility of time travel,
1473
01:16:32,726 --> 01:16:35,129
it still remains a possibility.
1474
01:16:35,162 --> 01:16:38,833
Some people say that the
aliens don't come from Mars,
1475
01:16:38,866 --> 01:16:40,868
they don't come
from a distant star.
1476
01:16:40,901 --> 01:16:43,337
They come from a different time.
1477
01:16:43,370 --> 01:16:45,773
Well, I'm open to
all sorts of ideas,
1478
01:16:45,806 --> 01:16:47,741
as long as they are testable.
1479
01:16:47,775 --> 01:16:53,280
Our notion of time and
space is flawed, seriously.
1480
01:16:53,314 --> 01:16:56,183
And you're entering issues where
1481
01:16:56,217 --> 01:16:58,853
there is no time and
there is no space.
1482
01:16:58,886 --> 01:17:01,255
You've got man-made craft.
1483
01:17:01,288 --> 01:17:04,325
You've got possible
extraterrestrial.
1484
01:17:04,358 --> 01:17:06,026
You've got interdimensional.
1485
01:17:06,060 --> 01:17:07,529
You've got...
1486
01:17:07,562 --> 01:17:10,331
Hmm. A pre-existing
high tech civilization
1487
01:17:10,364 --> 01:17:12,309
that could have been on this
planet for thousands of years.
1488
01:17:12,333 --> 01:17:13,934
And when you wrap
this all together,
1489
01:17:13,968 --> 01:17:17,404
you can see how confusing it is
because a lot of these things merge.
1490
01:17:19,340 --> 01:17:22,143
Some of the phenomena
seemed to point
1491
01:17:22,176 --> 01:17:25,547
to a direct interaction,
with consciousness.
1492
01:17:25,580 --> 01:17:30,885
Well, the consciousness is
interacting in all aspects of it.
1493
01:17:30,918 --> 01:17:32,653
And to take it a step farther,
1494
01:17:32,686 --> 01:17:36,090
going to Max Planck,
suggests that maybe
1495
01:17:36,123 --> 01:17:40,861
the physical evolved
from consciousness,
1496
01:17:40,895 --> 01:17:42,796
as opposed to the
other way around.
1497
01:17:49,937 --> 01:17:52,541
As part of developing
new understandings,
1498
01:17:52,574 --> 01:17:56,443
it's hard to ignore the so-called
experience or phenomenon.
1499
01:17:56,477 --> 01:17:59,146
A significant percentage
of the population
1500
01:17:59,180 --> 01:18:02,517
report having encounters
with non-human beings.
1501
01:18:02,551 --> 01:18:06,521
These encounters range from
enlightening to terrifying,
1502
01:18:06,555 --> 01:18:12,159
Many, many, many people have had
some very strange experiences.
1503
01:18:12,193 --> 01:18:17,064
Either seeing UFOs, and not just
at night while they were dreaming.
1504
01:18:17,097 --> 01:18:19,668
These are not nightmares.
1505
01:18:19,700 --> 01:18:24,371
These are often described as
more real than everyday reality.
1506
01:18:24,405 --> 01:18:27,408
The people who describe
it, these people are solid.
1507
01:18:27,441 --> 01:18:29,376
They come from
all walks of life.
1508
01:18:29,410 --> 01:18:32,947
Ralph Blumenthal wrote a book about the
late Harvard psychologist John Mack,
1509
01:18:32,980 --> 01:18:34,848
called The Believer.
1510
01:18:34,882 --> 01:18:37,351
Mack was one of the
first members of academia
1511
01:18:37,384 --> 01:18:40,754
to acknowledge the validity of
the experience or phenomenon.
1512
01:18:40,788 --> 01:18:44,358
John Mack investigated these stories
of people who said that this and this
1513
01:18:44,391 --> 01:18:48,229
happened to them, and at
least Mack, as a psychiatrist,
1514
01:18:48,262 --> 01:18:52,199
was able to evaluate
their stories to the...
1515
01:18:52,233 --> 01:18:56,804
Couldn't prove that this happened or
didn't happen, but at least could say that
1516
01:18:56,837 --> 01:19:00,941
these people were solid people
and were not mentally ill.
1517
01:19:02,510 --> 01:19:06,146
We interface with
whatever this is.
1518
01:19:06,180 --> 01:19:08,449
Contactees, abductees.
1519
01:19:08,482 --> 01:19:12,219
I think we can create some
of the phenomenon itself.
1520
01:19:12,253 --> 01:19:16,423
So I do believe that there are
certain individuals on this planet
1521
01:19:16,457 --> 01:19:20,427
who are more in tune,
are more intuitive,
1522
01:19:20,461 --> 01:19:23,732
are more in touch
with the unseen world
1523
01:19:23,764 --> 01:19:25,266
than the seen world.
1524
01:19:25,299 --> 01:19:28,335
Some of us are able
to pierce the veil
1525
01:19:28,369 --> 01:19:31,272
and connect with whatever
is going on out there.
1526
01:19:33,575 --> 01:19:36,277
Stunning new research
by Dr Gary Nolan,
1527
01:19:36,310 --> 01:19:38,946
has revealed a trait
in the human brain
1528
01:19:38,979 --> 01:19:41,982
that may make some people
more prone to abilities,
1529
01:19:42,016 --> 01:19:45,553
such as heightened
intuition, psychic abilities,
1530
01:19:45,587 --> 01:19:50,157
and possibly an ability to
communicate in undeveloped manners,
1531
01:19:50,190 --> 01:19:51,458
such as telepathy.
1532
01:19:51,492 --> 01:19:55,630
We had MRIs of claimed
remote viewers,
1533
01:19:56,230 --> 01:19:58,633
high-end remote viewers,
1534
01:19:58,667 --> 01:20:03,370
and this area of their brain
lit up like a Christmas tree.
1535
01:20:03,404 --> 01:20:07,441
The condition has been observed
in so-called "Experiencers."
1536
01:20:07,474 --> 01:20:10,844
Nolan has detected increased
activity and development
1537
01:20:10,878 --> 01:20:13,814
in a region of the brain
called the basal ganglia.
1538
01:20:13,847 --> 01:20:16,183
The thing that got
me really intrigued
1539
01:20:16,216 --> 01:20:20,921
was that we did have
MRIs from experiencers,
1540
01:20:20,954 --> 01:20:24,925
but these were high functioning
individuals that we happened to notice
1541
01:20:24,958 --> 01:20:29,963
that an area of their
brain, had a density in it
1542
01:20:29,997 --> 01:20:33,009
that we first thought was damaged because
we were studying damage at the moment.
1543
01:20:33,033 --> 01:20:37,071
But then we realized, this is not
damaged. This is living tissue.
1544
01:20:37,104 --> 01:20:39,808
And that became sort
of a side discovery.
1545
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:43,243
You're left then with,
frankly, what was
1546
01:20:43,277 --> 01:20:45,979
an even less uniform
group of individuals
1547
01:20:46,013 --> 01:20:51,885
with such varied interactions.
Things that we're talking to them,
1548
01:20:51,919 --> 01:20:55,557
things that they had gotten close
to and had been damaged and harmed.
1549
01:20:55,590 --> 01:20:58,492
And there were a couple of people
in that group who were harmed.
1550
01:20:58,526 --> 01:21:00,928
But of the remaining
individuals,
1551
01:21:00,961 --> 01:21:04,198
I would say that the majority
of them were not harmed.
1552
01:21:04,231 --> 01:21:09,571
This area of the brain, that we
came to the conclusion at the time
1553
01:21:09,604 --> 01:21:11,405
was probably involved
in intuition,
1554
01:21:11,438 --> 01:21:13,775
when we actually looked into it,
1555
01:21:13,808 --> 01:21:15,677
and then looked
into the literature,
1556
01:21:15,710 --> 01:21:17,320
believe it or not,
people were finding that
1557
01:21:17,344 --> 01:21:19,046
it had something to
do with intuition.
1558
01:21:19,980 --> 01:21:22,116
And that's the basal ganglia.
1559
01:21:22,149 --> 01:21:24,719
This area, the caudate putamen,
1560
01:21:24,753 --> 01:21:27,988
which is, you know, by
many neurophysiologist
1561
01:21:28,021 --> 01:21:29,456
called the brain
within the brain.
1562
01:21:29,490 --> 01:21:31,593
What Dr. Nolan has discovered
1563
01:21:31,626 --> 01:21:34,662
may represent a leap
in human evolution
1564
01:21:34,696 --> 01:21:38,031
or even a new variation
of Homo sapien.
1565
01:21:38,065 --> 01:21:43,605
You have to ask the question
"What kind of information
1566
01:21:43,638 --> 01:21:48,976
"is being perceived and how
is it being translated into,
1567
01:21:49,009 --> 01:21:52,479
"let's say, traditional
neuro-physiologic pathways?"
1568
01:21:53,313 --> 01:21:56,350
We don't understand...
1569
01:21:56,383 --> 01:21:59,219
space time the way we'd
like to pretend we do.
1570
01:21:59,253 --> 01:22:05,794
And so, who is to say that there is
not some kind of information transfer
1571
01:22:05,827 --> 01:22:08,696
that we just don't
necessarily yet appreciate,
1572
01:22:08,730 --> 01:22:11,566
but evolution has found
a way to latch onto.
1573
01:22:18,540 --> 01:22:21,241
The people that
we've met since 2017
1574
01:22:21,275 --> 01:22:23,043
seemed to have some
genuine interest
1575
01:22:23,076 --> 01:22:27,014
in helping to make humanity
more aware of these realities.
1576
01:22:27,047 --> 01:22:30,951
Chris Mellon continues to
work quietly behind the scenes
1577
01:22:30,984 --> 01:22:34,288
to bring about an effective
means of disclosure.
1578
01:22:34,321 --> 01:22:36,891
Very much changing
within the government,
1579
01:22:36,925 --> 01:22:40,060
on the Hill and the
executive branch,
1580
01:22:40,093 --> 01:22:42,664
as well as you can see
with the media lately.
1581
01:22:42,697 --> 01:22:44,866
It's becoming respectable
and legitimate,
1582
01:22:44,899 --> 01:22:48,502
and that's so crucial to engaging
more minds and more energy,
1583
01:22:48,536 --> 01:22:50,638
and more resources to getting
to the bottom of this.
1584
01:22:50,672 --> 01:22:52,439
Lue Elizondo seems to have put
1585
01:22:52,473 --> 01:22:54,609
everything on the line
since going public.
1586
01:22:54,642 --> 01:22:58,045
So if there's an issue where the government
is doing something we don't want to
1587
01:22:58,078 --> 01:23:00,682
then it's up to us as a
people to change that.
1588
01:23:00,715 --> 01:23:03,551
But it doesn't have to be
an adversarial relationship.
1589
01:23:03,585 --> 01:23:07,454
I think where we go wrong is that people
often times look at the government, they say,
1590
01:23:07,488 --> 01:23:09,423
"Oh, the government's bad,
the government's bad."
1591
01:23:09,456 --> 01:23:13,227
His role in AATIP has been challenged
by the Defense Intelligence Agency.
1592
01:23:13,260 --> 01:23:15,996
Lue fought back by hiring
one of the most effective
1593
01:23:16,029 --> 01:23:19,767
and well known civil rights attorneys
in the field, Danny Sheehan.
1594
01:23:19,801 --> 01:23:25,138
I was contacted by Lue Elizondo
and asked to represent him
1595
01:23:25,172 --> 01:23:27,040
because he was upset
1596
01:23:27,074 --> 01:23:29,209
about the fact that the Pentagon
1597
01:23:29,243 --> 01:23:32,212
even after the
publication of this
1598
01:23:32,246 --> 01:23:35,349
on December 16th
and 17th of 2017,
1599
01:23:35,382 --> 01:23:40,522
there were officials inside the Pentagon
issuing completely false statements,
1600
01:23:40,555 --> 01:23:42,991
still, saying, "Yeah,
there's no such thing
1601
01:23:43,023 --> 01:23:46,460
"as the Advanced Aerospace
Identification Program."
1602
01:23:46,493 --> 01:23:49,296
Together, they approached
the Inspector General
1603
01:23:49,329 --> 01:23:51,064
of the Defense
Intelligence Agency
1604
01:23:51,098 --> 01:23:55,335
to reverse the Pentagon's failure
to acknowledge Elizondo's position.
1605
01:23:55,369 --> 01:24:00,374
When Elizondo started, talking
about this phenomenon publicly,
1606
01:24:00,407 --> 01:24:04,579
you can see the Pentagon had
tremendous pushback against him.
1607
01:24:05,145 --> 01:24:06,113
They lied.
1608
01:24:06,146 --> 01:24:08,382
They said "No, he didn't
run such a program."
1609
01:24:08,415 --> 01:24:09,584
That was a lie.
1610
01:24:09,617 --> 01:24:11,653
They said AATIP had
nothing to do with UFOs.
1611
01:24:11,686 --> 01:24:13,922
- That was a lie.
- We were trying at the same time,
1612
01:24:13,955 --> 01:24:16,958
trying to determine
what Lue can say
1613
01:24:16,991 --> 01:24:20,093
in light of his security
clearances, you know, publicly.
1614
01:24:20,127 --> 01:24:24,832
Not long ago, Elizondo
supposedly said to his attorney
1615
01:24:24,866 --> 01:24:27,001
that he had seen a flying
saucer in a hanger.
1616
01:24:27,035 --> 01:24:32,072
That gets out and the
stuff hits the fan.
1617
01:24:32,105 --> 01:24:34,809
And, you know, Lue had
to walk that back too.
1618
01:24:34,842 --> 01:24:37,011
What did he do? He
said, "Well, you know,
1619
01:24:37,045 --> 01:24:39,514
"I went to a hangar
that was designed
1620
01:24:39,547 --> 01:24:42,817
"to accommodate exotic materials,
but I didn't see anything there.
1621
01:24:42,850 --> 01:24:46,821
"I never saw any intact craft."
He was like, very lawyerly
1622
01:24:46,854 --> 01:24:49,557
in how he said what he
did because he had to.
1623
01:24:49,591 --> 01:24:53,828
I guess I'm just genetically
pre-disposed to not trusting government
1624
01:24:53,861 --> 01:24:56,864
and seeing it now,
too, it's just a joke.
1625
01:24:56,898 --> 01:24:57,898
It really is.
1626
01:24:59,701 --> 01:25:02,770
MUFON, The Mutual UFO Network
1627
01:25:02,804 --> 01:25:06,975
is the largest and oldest UFO
organization in the world.
1628
01:25:07,008 --> 01:25:10,678
After over 50 years, MUFON
is stronger than ever.
1629
01:25:11,746 --> 01:25:14,515
I'm Ron James. It's
March 11th 2022.
1630
01:25:14,549 --> 01:25:16,050
I'm here in front
of the White House.
1631
01:25:16,084 --> 01:25:19,419
It's been a historic week for
the UFO community and for MUFON,
1632
01:25:19,453 --> 01:25:20,788
the Mutual UFO Network.
1633
01:25:20,822 --> 01:25:23,390
We have actually been taking
meetings all week long
1634
01:25:23,423 --> 01:25:27,662
with key members and staff of the House
and Senate intelligence committees
1635
01:25:27,695 --> 01:25:29,530
regarding the UAP phenomenon.
1636
01:25:29,564 --> 01:25:32,100
We've been here for three
days now, four days,
1637
01:25:32,132 --> 01:25:35,937
and have met with about
10 different officials,
1638
01:25:35,970 --> 01:25:41,576
congressmen, representatives
staff and senators,
1639
01:25:41,609 --> 01:25:44,746
and we've really had
a tremendous welcome.
1640
01:25:44,779 --> 01:25:47,882
Thousands of people
over 100 years or more,
1641
01:25:47,915 --> 01:25:51,786
have challenged the official
deception around the UFO topic.
1642
01:25:51,819 --> 01:25:54,287
They have been
ridiculed and debunked.
1643
01:25:54,321 --> 01:25:56,958
Today, they are beginning
to be vindicated,
1644
01:25:56,991 --> 01:25:59,493
but still have not
accomplished their goal.
1645
01:25:59,527 --> 01:26:02,396
A total end to the UFO cover-up.
1646
01:26:02,429 --> 01:26:05,800
There is no way to inform the
American people writ large,
1647
01:26:05,833 --> 01:26:09,137
all 500 million of us, and
ensure that information
1648
01:26:09,169 --> 01:26:11,606
is not going to get into the
hands of a foreign adversary.
1649
01:26:11,639 --> 01:26:14,108
Maybe it's that there
are some elements
1650
01:26:14,142 --> 01:26:17,244
of the technology that
has to be kept under wraps
1651
01:26:17,277 --> 01:26:21,582
or kept to a limited
number of people because
1652
01:26:21,616 --> 01:26:23,851
if you cross the wires,
bad things happen.
1653
01:26:23,885 --> 01:26:28,056
This is a version of disclosure.
1654
01:26:28,089 --> 01:26:29,891
But is it going to
be the real truth?
1655
01:26:29,924 --> 01:26:31,959
And, I mean, I don't care
1656
01:26:31,993 --> 01:26:33,995
about anything except
what the actual truth is.
1657
01:26:34,028 --> 01:26:35,730
So, we'll see if
they can get there.
1658
01:26:35,763 --> 01:26:38,498
They could say, for
example, down the road,
1659
01:26:38,533 --> 01:26:43,071
"Well, actually, yeah. We have
had a few reports down the road,
1660
01:26:43,104 --> 01:26:45,640
"over the years, but we
kept it quiet because,
1661
01:26:45,673 --> 01:26:48,241
"honestly, we needed
to avoid public panic."
1662
01:26:48,275 --> 01:26:49,544
They'll say that.
1663
01:26:49,577 --> 01:26:54,314
At a societal level, I believe
that we are completely ready
1664
01:26:54,347 --> 01:26:57,484
to incorporate this new reality,
1665
01:26:57,518 --> 01:27:02,023
and if the President
were to go on
1666
01:27:02,056 --> 01:27:05,526
the evening news today and
say, "My fellow Americans,
1667
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:07,071
"people of the world,
we're not alone,"
1668
01:27:07,095 --> 01:27:11,331
I think the reaction
would be sorta two-fold.
1669
01:27:11,364 --> 01:27:14,102
Obviously, there would
be a huge interest in it,
1670
01:27:14,135 --> 01:27:17,538
but actually there wouldn't
be panic in the streets.
1671
01:27:17,572 --> 01:27:21,109
So to be part of that journey,
1672
01:27:21,142 --> 01:27:25,847
to uncover and to show links
to this advanced civilization,
1673
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:29,784
that would be a great honor,
because as a scientist,
1674
01:27:29,817 --> 01:27:32,053
you go where the data takes you.
1675
01:27:32,086 --> 01:27:35,857
And sometimes the data takes you
to places that are uncomfortable.
1676
01:27:35,890 --> 01:27:38,358
But, hey, that's the
way the cookie crumbles.
1677
01:27:38,391 --> 01:27:40,528
Yeah, I just... You know,
I'm going to get hit on it.
1678
01:27:40,561 --> 01:27:43,531
They told me. They said, "Man, Burchett
you need to cool this stuff out
1679
01:27:43,564 --> 01:27:49,402
"because it's gonna hurt us
at the polls." But we'll see.
1680
01:27:51,806 --> 01:27:54,909
We've shown that even today
there is a narrative at work
1681
01:27:54,942 --> 01:28:00,047
that has been created to manipulate
public perception about the UFO topic.
1682
01:28:00,081 --> 01:28:02,683
We are not alone
in the universe.
1683
01:28:02,717 --> 01:28:06,353
There are those who have struggled
to keep this truth a secret.
1684
01:28:06,386 --> 01:28:10,024
But the proof of the deception
serves its own purpose
1685
01:28:10,057 --> 01:28:12,760
and tells us much
more than ever before.
1686
01:28:12,794 --> 01:28:15,196
I have good news
and I have bad news.
1687
01:28:15,229 --> 01:28:19,167
And the good news is the government's
been telling you the truth.
1688
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:22,837
The bad news is the government's
been telling you the truth.
1689
01:28:22,870 --> 01:28:23,981
I mean, just look at Roswell.
1690
01:28:24,005 --> 01:28:25,873
There are no 509th bomb
group members left.
1691
01:28:25,907 --> 01:28:27,275
They're all dead.
1692
01:28:27,307 --> 01:28:30,511
So according to the government,
it's cover up complete.
1693
01:28:30,545 --> 01:28:32,914
All right, then what did I
see out there in that field?
1694
01:28:33,413 --> 01:28:34,816
Oh, that...
1695
01:28:36,984 --> 01:28:39,020
Why, that was a weather balloon.