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[suspenseful tune]
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[chopper whirring]
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[indistinct chatter on radio]
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[man 1] I remember that particular raid.
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We always believed from an early time
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that Mayo was, kind of,
the patriarch of Sinaloa.
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[indistinct chatter on radio]
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So we thought to get him would be a coup.
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They were delayed in doing it.
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Which always makes me nervous
because maybe somebody got to them.
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[indistinct chatter on radio]
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[man 1] The hour of the raid is great.
That's what everybody thinks about.
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It's... days and days
of monitoring and communications.
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We were hopeful that we would,
if not get him,
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we would get someone around him
who would lead us to him.
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[indistinct chatter on radio]
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It just didn't work out.
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Somewhere along the way there was a leak.
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[voice on radio, in Spanish]
Go on. Go upstairs.
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[in English] That's why Ismael Zambada
is still alive and free.
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Has never been arrested.
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Never.
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[indistinct chatter on radio, in Spanish]
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[ominous tune]
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This is a guy that's been... essentially
on the run for over 20 years.
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[sirens blaring]
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[in Spanish] "El Mayo" Zambada
is the mastermind
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of the drug business here in Mexico.
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[man wearing scarf, in Spanish]
He's more poisonous than a snake.
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[reporter, in Spanish] Mayo Zambada
controls the Sinaloa cartel.
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[reporter 2, in English] His cartel
is believed to be the number one supplier
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of heroin, cocaine, and marijuana
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into the US.
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[man] Mayo, he doesn't want to be seen...
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[gunfire]
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...as a fragile boss.
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[woman in Spanish] After 40 years
in the business of narcotrafficking
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the mysterious Ismael Zambada Garcia
"El Mayo"
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has never been captured.
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[reporter, in Spanish] Ismael "El Mayo"
Zambada for whom the United States offers
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a bounty of five million dollars.
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[in English] For the first time
in recent history,
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opioids killed more Americans
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than gun homicides.
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[female reporter] The opioid epidemic
is the deadliest drug overdose crisis
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in US history.
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[child wailing]
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[man] It's easy to get
and it's... easy to smuggle.
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It's a pretty scary epidemic.
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Because it takes so minimal of it...
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to kill you.
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If you make one wrong error, you're done.
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My name is David Lorino.
I was the agent that managed the group
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of investigating agents
that put the case together.
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This investigation started from...
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what we would consider the lowest levels
[scoffs] of narcotics business
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here on the West side of Chicago.
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[indistinct chatter]
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[Lorino] We were buying ounce quantities
of heroin
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from a gang banger on the corner
here in Chicago.
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[phone ringing]
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[Lorino]
We started intercepting his phone...
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[speaking Spanish on phone]
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[Lorino] ...which took us
to another guy...
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which took us up the food chain.
And the next thing you know...
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we're onto cartel members.
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Uh... and the guys that we're buying
the dope from on the corner
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it's coming from Chapo and from Mayo.
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That's when... now, we got real targets.
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[suspenseful tune]
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It's like a narcotics agent's dream
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to... to start buying ounces on a corner
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and end up with a cartel member.
You-- It just doesn't happen.
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[man] Mayo Zambada is a foe
that we've never dealt with before.
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He understood at an early age
the importance of maintaining a low key.
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That told me something important
about Mayo.
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He's somewhat of a business visionary.
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In that he's very strategic
in the way that he thinks.
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I'm Jack Riley.
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Retired from DEA.
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And I was part of the hunt
for El Chapo and Mayo.
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We brought every agency in. The police,
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FBI, DEA, ATF.
Secret Service was even there.
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The strike force's sole goal
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was to go after Sinaloa and its tentacles
to the Chicago street gangs.
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[Lorino] We were trying--
We wanted to get El Mayo on the phone
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to talk about lowering the price
or... about quantity
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so that we could verify that
that dope actually came from him.
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But we didn't have the...
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ability at the time to structure a call
with Mayo.
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[man] There is nothing on Mayo Zambada.
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There is no voice recording about... him.
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My name is Jesus Esquivel.
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I am a writer who has been investigating
narco traffic for several years.
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Mayo knows
if he's too much on the phone...
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could be his end.
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[dogs barking]
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[crickets chirping]
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[Esquivel] In the meetings with top, top,
top leadership of the cartel...
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what Mayo said?
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Nothing.
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When he wanted to give an order
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he called the guy, went outside,
and gave the order.
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Smart. He probably knew
that the DEA of the Mexican government
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or even people working with him
was taping the conversation.
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[cricket chirping intensifies]
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[ominous tune]
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[Esquivel] When the Sinaloa cartel
was in a real boom...
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the middle man,
the guy who makes the deals...
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was Chapo. Because he's a nice guy.
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[phone ringing]
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[man 1, in Spanish] My friend!
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[man 2, in Spanish]
What's up, how are you?
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[man 1, in Spanish] Good, good.
Nice talking to you. How''s your brothers?
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Look, there was a gob of evidence
against Chapo, okay, in this case.
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[man 3, in Spanish] If this telephone
falls into the hand of the government
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our security will be heavily jeopardized.
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The calls we got to Chapo...
were structured through an intermediary.
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[Chapo, in Spanish]
How much did they give you?
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[man 4, in Spanish] They gave me 20.
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[Chapo, Spanish] Alright then, I'll pick
the money up tomorrow. That's fine.
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[man 4, Spanish] Yes.
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Those tapes were a killer for him.
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The tape recordings of him talking
upon the cost and the price
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and the quantity... of that heroin deal.
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No matter what,
he could not make those tapes go away.
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[man] I think it-it really goes to...
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how powerful Mayo Zambada is
versus El Chapo.
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Mayo must be an extremely,
extremely intelligent man.
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Now, he must be 71, 72, and keep in mind,
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his narcotic trafficking
started in the early '80s.
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[Riley] It's going to be more difficult
than Chapo.
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He's very familiar with his surroundings
and doesn't go from there.
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So... we got to stay the hunt.
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We really do.
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[Esquivel] Mayo was a real ranchero
from La Sierra.
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The way he talks, the way he walks.
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The most luxurious car
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that has been driven by Mayo
was a Ford truck.
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He doesn't have to be driving a luxurious
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or a Lamborghini or a Ferrari
in La Sierra. No.
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He started working...
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-[gun clicks]
-...as a pisolero, sicario, a killer.
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Mayo is well known that when he's angry
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it's better for you to hide
wherever you can.
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[gunfire]
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[sirens wailing]
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[Esquivel] Everybody asks me:
"Are you afraid?"
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If they want you dead,
you're gonna be dead.
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Especially if you're a Mexican journalist.
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[indistinct chatter on radio in Spanish]
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[man wearing mask, in Spanish]
On this van, I shoot down anyone.
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Right in the head. I never miss.
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My name is Eladio.
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I am Eagle One. I follow every order.
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I am happy
to be part of the Sinaloa cartel.
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[ominous tune, intensifying]
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Mayo surrounded himself with,
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you know...
his own little army, if you will.
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[Esquivel] With the rings.
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Several rings before you get to top guy.
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That's why he delegates
too much authority in the sicarios.
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[indistinct radio chatter]
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[interviewer, in Spanish] Who's your boss?
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[Eladio, in Spanish] "El Senor Grande",
our master, gave us instructions
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on how to look after ourselves.
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We must never tell his name to anyone.
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There are many protocols
and we must follow them.
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[Esquivel, in English]
They called El Mayo "El Senor."
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You don't say his name.
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It is dangerous. That's evident.
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That's very incriminating for you.
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[man on radio, in Spanish]
There is a red Toyota.
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[indistinct, muffled speech]
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[indistinct voice over radio]
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[Eladio, in Spanish] We have to set
an information system.
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We have 150, 160 members.
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Some of us
are checking the cars...
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and inform us about their routes.
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We have people in the entrance.
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Others are in the midway point.
Some guys are on the hill.
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We also have people in the airport
checking flight logs, timetables
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and departures.
We get information everywhere.
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It has to be this way,
otherwise we may have surprises.
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[interviewer, Spanish]
You don't like surprises.
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[Eladio, Spanish]
No, it's too much responsibility.
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It does not look good
to have your chief scolded.
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[indistinct chatter on radio]
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[interviewer, Spanish] How does
El Mayo always manage to escape?
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[Eladio, Spanish] He is at peace
with the community.
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That's essential.
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[church bell tolls]
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[Esquivel, in English] You ask
with the people, local people:
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"They... happy?"
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Because the economy's good,
the narcos are doing a lot of money.
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Everybody's fine.
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[man in ski mask, in Spanish]
This car will go tomorrow morning.
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This one goes directly
to the border.
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And the car will come back
here, loaded with money.
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[in English] Follow the money.
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[buzz]
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[motor revving]
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[tires screeching]
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[Riley] The Robin Hood theory
that Mayo is a hero...
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he's building soccer fields
and all those other things, churches...
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uh... that also is built into
his security plan, and his business plan.
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[church bells toll]
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[Riley] Because
it really makes the locals...
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voices, in terms of them seeing things
and reporting it up the road.
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[church bells pealing]
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[sirens blaring]
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It's difficult for any agency
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uh... to go after a guy as accomplished
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in organized crime as Mayo Zambada is.
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So, what we needed to do
was concentrate on the people around him.
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[phone ringing]
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[Riley] If we're... targeting Mayo,
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we're targeting everyone around him
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because they're usually least cautious
when they use phones.
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[phone ringing]
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[Riley] By doing that, we can build
a life pattern on Mayo.
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[upbeat tune]
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[man, in Spanish] My name is Victor
Gerardo Garay Cadena.
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I was in charge
of the Federal Police Anti-Drug Unit.
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In July 2008...
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an American agency representative
contacted me
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to give me information
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on a man called Rey Zambada
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and a house in the neighborhood
of Linda Vista.
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"El Rey" Zambada,
brother of Ismael Zambada Garcia
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was controlling the drug transport
in Mexico City Airport.
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I received the information
and he asked me for help.
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"Of course I'll check it," I said.
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So we were monitoring the place.
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We were certain that
something was happening in that house.
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On October 20, 2008
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there was a raid.
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[repeated gunfire]
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There was a huge shootout.
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He tried to escape.
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But we'd surrounded the house.
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Desperate, Reynaldo Zambada...
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calls the Chief Research Officer
of the Federal Police Anti-Drug Unit.
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He said to Rey Zambada,
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"Hey boss, what can I do for you?
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Don't worry. I'm coming to help you."
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As the shootout was getting closer
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"El Rey" Zambada called again
and told him,
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"What the hell is going on?
Why aren't you here?"
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He said, "Sir, I'm almost there.
Don't worry. I'm on my way."
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We found out that the head
of the police investigative unit
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was working for the Zambada brothers.
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[indistinct chatter]
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[sirens blaring]
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[man, in Spanish] "El Rey" Zambada
was caught. He was the main operator
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of Mayo's cartel.
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[Cadena, in Spanish]
Zambada was very well protected.
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Today, we understand why.
He was surrounded by policemen.
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Because he paid them.
As the saying goes, money talks.
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The police is state-funded,
but drug dealers pay more.
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So they obey their orders.
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They call them "boss", "chief", "sir".
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Throughout my career...
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in some areas I've been...
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I noticed half of the officers
were involved with them.
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[Riley, in English] It's part
of their terror strategy.
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Number one, we're going to try
to convince you... to come to work for us.
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And if that doesn't work
or you're hesitant,
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then we're gonna attempt to bribe you.
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And if we feel that you're that vital
to our operations,
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it could be hundreds of thousands
of dollars repeatedly.
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However, if you turn us down after that
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we're gonna put a round in your head.
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[suspenseful tune]
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They were trying to make a deal
with the DEA.
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Can you believe that?
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Mayos and Chapos making a deal
with the DEA. Well, it was real.
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So Mayo Zambada sent his son
to Mexico City to talk to the DEA.
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Vicente was essentially
doing logistics for... for Mayo.
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Mayo was prepping him to be...
his replacement.
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He would've been the guy that stepped up.
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And had something happened to Mayo,
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Vicente would've been
the guy in line.
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[Esquivel] It was... in the hotel Sheraton
in Mexico City.
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A few meters actually
from the US Embassy.
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There were three DEA agents
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Loya-Castro, El Vicentillo's lawyer,
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and Vicentillo.
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[Riley] When...
wanted guys want to approach DEA?
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What we want to do is find out
if it's even worth it.
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And they need to understand
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if you're gonna tell us something,
you gotta tell us everything.
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And if we catch you lying, the deal's off.
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[Esquivel] They make a deal...
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to give the DEA information about...
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the whereabouts of the enemies
of "El Cartel de Sinaloa."
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Talk to the US government. And give them
information about your enemies.
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And they're gonna... keep you aside.
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To continue doing business.
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It happened, kind of, that way,
but it wasn't set up, if you will.
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If one bad guy wants to give up
another bad guy...
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That's what informants
do all along, right?
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If we can take information
from one bad guy
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and take another bad guy
out of business... is that a bad thing?
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[Esquivel] They spoke
for a couple of hours.
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They left the room.
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[sirens blaring]
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[Esquivel] And a few hours after that,
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"El Vicentillo" was arrested
by the Mexican military.
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The obvious question
and the obvious situation...
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that is drawn from that is,
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who gave information
to the Mexican military
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that el hijo de El "Mayo" Zambada
was in Mexico City?
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There is a dirty agreement
that we don't know the details.
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[in Spanish] The Secretary of National
Defense informs me that on the 18th
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the Army arrested
Vicente Zambada Niebla,
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aka "El Vicentillo"
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son of Ismael Zambada Garcia,
aka "El Mayo" Zambada.
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[in English]
He was arrested and extradited
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back into the United States.
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00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,760
[chopper whirring]
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[Lorino] I met Vicente
as he came off the airplane.
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I think he was shocked
that he got arrested.
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We transported him in a van
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00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,680
with state police escort...
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00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,160
from the airport directly into
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00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,120
the Metropolitan Correctional Center
here in Chicago.
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00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,200
[Riley] I remember
he was in a... a tracksuit.
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And he stuck his hand out to shake my hand
and I wasn't gonna shake his hand.
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00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,520
The first thing I wanted to do was ask,
"Where's your father?
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00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,760
What's his phone number? What's he drive?
Who's around him?" So we could go now.
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[scream echoing]
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I told him, just, you know:
"You gotta think about... your position.
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There's no getting out now."
335
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,920
The conditions they kept Vicente in
for two years...
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were literally draconian measures.
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Complete isolation.
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[Esquivel] No communication,
even with his wife.
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00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,840
He was... kind of, crazy.
340
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,960
He said, "I was so sick, I was...
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00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,720
you know, losing my mind in that cell."
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00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,200
So, he gave up.
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00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,760
He was ready. Vicente was ready...
to cooperate at that point.
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We told him, "You're gonna have to tell us
about your dad, and your dad's activities.
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00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,800
That's your only option
for probably ever seeing
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00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,600
the outside of a jail cell again."
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00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,400
[Lorino] I understand his... his dilemma.
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00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,840
For a lot of those guys, you know
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their immediate families
is a big deal to them.
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That's blood. You know,
that's a tough spot to be in.
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We finally went to, as an option,
to try and get past that hurdle...
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00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:09,360
was through some intermediaries,
if you will.
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00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,560
We were able to structure
a telephone call...
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00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,400
between him and his father.
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00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,840
Through a number of attorneys,
we got a cell phone number to Mayo.
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00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,440
[phone ringing]
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00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,280
Finally, in the middle of the night,
uh, Mayo calls.
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00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,680
[Esquivel] Around midnight,
the DEA agents...
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00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,480
opened his cell
and took "El Vicentillo" out...
360
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,400
and gave him a phone.
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[static]
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Who was in the line?
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00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:02,920
Mayo... Zambada.
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00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,720
[Lorino] That phone call was strictly
for the purpose
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00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,640
of him explaining to his dad,
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00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,880
"I don't really want to tell them...
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00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,560
but it's the only real shot I have."
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00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,240
Mayo told him:
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00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,760
"You do what you have to do, son...
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00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,440
to help yourself and... help your family."
371
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:43,200
That was a big day.
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00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:49,280
[busy telephone tone]
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He led to probably hundreds of arrests.
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00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,280
[sirens wailing]
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00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,520
[Riley] Quite frankly, he showed us...
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00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,720
how they operate.
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00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,360
They forced him to betray Chapo.
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00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,320
That was the reason of that call.
379
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,720
To say,
"Papa, I don't have other option.
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00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,520
It's us... or him."
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00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:40,120
Will you sacrifice your son...
for your compadre?
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00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:41,640
No.
383
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,080
He was over.
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00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:51,920
Especially, if you call the attention
of international media, the governments.
385
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,520
For the narco-traffic business,
you have to be quiet.
386
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,800
Towards the end,
Chapo got a little stupid.
387
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,120
And he began to go places he shouldn't.
388
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,280
He began to do some public things.
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00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:22,480
I know, because we know from Vicente
that Mayo was very upset...
390
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,280
with the way that he was going,
because he was concerned
391
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,440
that Chapo was gonna lead to more heat
for the organization as itself.
392
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,520
Chapo became an international problem...
393
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,400
because his name was known
all over the world.
394
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:53,160
[Eladio, in Spanish] He felt
over-confident about his safety.
395
00:34:53,240 --> 00:34:56,200
This kind of person,
you can't say anything to them.
396
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,000
He let himself be seen
where he wasn't supposed to be seen.
397
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,360
-That's why he is in jail now.
-[banging on door]
398
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,120
[indistinct voices on radio]
399
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:11,880
[gunfire]
400
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,200
[rapid gunfire]
401
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,400
[Marine officers shouting indistinctly,
in Spanish]
402
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,720
[officer, in Spanish] Two here.
403
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,960
[Riley, in English]
He's coming off the plane,
404
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,000
and, uh, he's crying.
405
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,320
And I had that freeze framed,
and I got it in a frame now.
406
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,600
[interviewer] Did you meet Chapo?
407
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,760
No. Good thing, too. 'Cause I probably
would've dropped him.
408
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,280
I would've cold-cocked him right there.
409
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,640
[reporter, in Spanish]
Drug trafficker Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman
410
00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:59,960
was sentenced to spend
the rest of his life in prison.
411
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,600
[reporter 2, in French]
El Chapo will spend his life in prison.
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00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,720
[reporter 3, in English] "El Chapo" Guzman
was sentenced to life in prison.
413
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,680
[in Spanish] Breaking news.
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00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,400
Vicente Zambada Niebla, "El Vicentillo",
was sentenced in Chicago
415
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,200
to 15 years in prison
and five years of probation.
416
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,720
[Esquivel, in English] The sacrifice
was to be in jail for a period of...
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00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,400
fifteen, fourteen years?
418
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,320
And then: "Mi hijo, you're gonna be free."
419
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,160
And... under the custody
of the US government.
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00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:56,720
What an irony!
421
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,160
His father, the biggest
narco-trafficker ever, in Mexico
422
00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:06,000
and his oldest son, being protected
by the US government.
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00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,720
What about El Mayo?
424
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,280
Now that you have El Chapo, that's it?
425
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,200
Sinaloa disappears?
426
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:23,360
No.
427
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,720
[sirens blaring]
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00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:35,880
[reporter, in Spanish] A very violent day
in Culiacan, the capital of Sinaloa.
429
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,960
[sirens blaring]
430
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,640
The Mexican Army
and the Guardia Nacional...
431
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,400
were working on a tip
432
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,200
about the hideout of Ovidio Guzman Lopez,
433
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,960
one of Chapo's sons.
434
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,280
And they found him.
435
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,560
[indistinct conversations in Spanish]
436
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,800
[officer, in Spanish]
Get out, get out! Get out, Ovidio!
437
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,440
[men discussing indistinctly, in Spanish]
438
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,600
[officer, in Spanish] Calm down.
439
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,400
-[officer] Do you have weapons?
-[Ovidio] No, not anymore.
440
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,920
[Esquivel, in English]
Even when El Chapo is in jail forever,
441
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,160
his sons are under the protection
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00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:34,080
of his compadre,
Ismael "El Mayo" Zambada Garcia.
443
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,480
[in Spanish] The federal authorities
have found
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00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,320
one or two sons
of Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman.
445
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,040
This triggered a violent reaction
from the Sinaloa cartel.
446
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,760
[gunshots]
447
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,840
[Esquivel, in English]
The sicarios, pistoleros or killers...
448
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,920
started to intimidate...
449
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,120
the society of... Culiacan.
450
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,880
And it was all this crazy stuff.
451
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:09,120
[rapid gunfire]
452
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:26,040
-[heavy gunfire]
-[people shouting indistinctly, Spanish]
453
00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:40,320
[voice 1 on radio, in Spanish]
What do you say, boss?
454
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,520
[voice 2, in Spanish]
What did "El Senor" tell you?
455
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,640
[in English] When they refer to "El Senor"
456
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,320
he's talking about... Mayo Zambada.
457
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,280
Nothing moves in Sinaloa without the order
458
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,160
or permission of Ismael "El Mayo" Zambada.
459
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,960
He was in charge.
He was giving the orders.
460
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,800
[voice 3 on radio, in Spanish] Go ahead!
Our man has been captured,
461
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,400
the other commandant said to go ahead.
462
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,320
[voice 4 on radio, in Spanish]
Let's kidnap families,
463
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,160
and until they don't free him,
we will not release them.
464
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,000
[gunfire]
465
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,920
[voice 5 on radio, in Spanish]
Cool down, bro. Cool down, all is good.
466
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,200
We are negotiating.
467
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,400
[Esquivel, in English]
The Mexican government
468
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,080
was so intimidated.
469
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,360
That's when they sent the orders
to let Chapo's son go.
470
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,640
The message sent to the Sinaloa cartel...
471
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,120
by that action is:
"You guys are untouchable.
472
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,640
You are the owners of the State.
This is your home."
473
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,600
[indistinct chatter]
474
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:50,800
[in Spanish] The arrest of a criminal
475
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,560
is not worth
476
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:58,000
human lives.
477
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,120
[policeman, in Spanish]
We arrived here at 2 a.m.
478
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,840
Later, we started to notice
479
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,240
the smell that comes
from this kind of labs.
480
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,920
They produced nearly a ton a day.
481
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,040
Methamphetamine.
482
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,320
[interviewer, in Spanish]
Arresting Mayo Zambada is a priority?
483
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,520
[in Spanish] Our priority is to guarantee
the people's safety.
484
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,360
Arresting him is not our priority.
Do we arrest him because it's priority?
485
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,640
No, it isn't our priority.
486
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,320
[man over mic, in Spanish]
We've finished with the strategy
487
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,640
of operations
488
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,960
to arrest drug lords.
489
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,200
We've wasted a lot of time doing that
490
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:30,760
and it didn't work.
491
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:32,880
There is no war.
492
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,360
It's official: "The war is over."
493
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:39,880
We want peace.
494
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:42,360
We'll achieve peace.
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00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,280
[Esquivel, in English]
The reason that he wants...
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00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,600
peace with the narcos...
497
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,120
is the insecurity in Mexico.
498
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,880
Now Mexicans, we are used to... the death.
499
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:09,280
And it's too sad.
500
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,640
We don't get surprised
if we saw people dead on the streets...
501
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,480
or hanging from a bridge.
It's normal for us.
502
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,080
It's not normal for any society.
503
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:25,560
[church bells pealing]
504
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,600
[prayers in Spanish]
505
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:34,680
-[prayers in Spanish continue]
-[woman weeping]
506
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,800
[in English] We still think... Mayo may be
the number one bad guy in the world.
507
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:53,360
[chanting, in Spanish]
508
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,480
[in English] We gotta keep the pressure up
on all angles...
509
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,720
and not let this thing go...
510
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,120
you know, in the moth balls
for another ten years.
511
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,440
[man on radio, in Spanish]
512
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:16,120
[Eladio, in Spanish] Empires never end.
Empires never fall, never crumble.
513
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,680
If one falls another takes his place.
514
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,360
Stronger and steadier.