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Where are we?

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{\an8}We always loved doing the
unexpected with Scott Lang.

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<i>He is arguably the character
that is the most underestimated.</i>

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<i>I think
back to making the first film,</i>

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<i>which was one of the titles
that, when we announced,</i>

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<i>people kind of looked at us
strangely, like, "Really, Ant-Man?</i>

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{\an8}"You're going to make a movie
about that? Are you kidding?"

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<i>We had no idea.</i>

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<i>"Is</i> Ant-Man <i>going to work? Are
people going to come see it?"</i>

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{\an8}We were fortunate that I think audiences
really latched on to Scott Lang,

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<i>and I think they did for
the same reasons I did.</i>

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Daddy!

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You can't just show up.

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<i>I wanna to be
a part of her life.</i>

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He is not a super
scientist or a billionaire.

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<i>He's just a regular guy who
sort of happened upon this suit</i>

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<i>and this technology and got sucked
into this insane Marvel Universe.</i>

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{\an8}When we first started with
<i>Ant-Man,</i> we were a palate cleanser.

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{\an8}Because we were always coming
after the kind of finale-big

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<i>Marvel story, the Avengers story
that was ripping people's hearts out.</i>

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<i>And ours were light and they
were fun and they were sweet.</i>

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But at one point, Ant-Man became the
key to saving a literal universe...

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What if we could enter
the Quantum Realm?

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<i>in</i> Avengers: Endgame.

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And that is not something I
think people would have predicted

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after his first appearance.

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<i>So carrying that
tradition, we thought,</i>

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<i>"What do we do with
another</i> Ant-Man <i>movie?"</i>

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<i>And that's really when we hit
upon, "Let's use this film</i>

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<i>"to kick off Phase Five."</i>

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The film that kicks
off Phase Five

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is <i>Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania.

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<i>One of the things
that was really exciting was</i>

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{\an8}knowing that what we were doing

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<i>was probably going to
surprise some people.</i>

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Like, "Wow. I can't believe
this is an <i>Ant-Man</i> movie."

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Cut it!

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Dad!

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<i>"Word of advice.</i>

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{\an8}"Look out for the little guy."

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<i>Ready? Kang walks in.</i>

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Ready.

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So you see him.

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And then... And
then, I blow it up.

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Camera is not going
to see Kang at all before.

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But we're gonna see Paul,

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we're gonna see Scott's
expression not knowing what it is.

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- He pushes her in.
- Oh.

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Then he gets blasted away.

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Then we reveal Kang.

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Oh!

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<i>I always knew it would be
great to build to a movie like this.</i>

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As a kid, I was a big Fantastic
Four fan and Avengers fan,

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and I remember stories

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where Doctor Doom would
shrink down and you'd realize,

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"Oh, there are whole
civilizations deep down there."

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<i>They're worlds within
worlds, and it's populated.</i>

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<i>And wouldn't it be great to be
able to get to that at some point?</i>

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From that were the early seeds
for what <i>Quantumania</i> could be.

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<i>This was all sort of
established in the second film...</i>

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Mom?

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<i>where Janet is
rescued from the Quantum Realm.</i>

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<i>We hint at what the
Quantum Realm could be,</i>

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<i>we hint that there's maybe more than
just a lifeless void down there.</i>

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<i>There's even some Easter eggs
if you go back and slow down</i>

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<i>the second film, where you see
what looks like subatomic cities.</i>

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It's me.

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<i>And she's wearing clothes,
that, "Where did these clothes come from?"</i>

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Somewhere in the
back of our mind,

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we knew if we ever were lucky
enough to get to a <i>Part 3,</i>

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<i>the seeds for that idea,</i>

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<i>the seeds for going from small
San Francisco crime movies</i>

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<i>to a sci-fi epic that has more in common
with</i> Lord of the Rings <i>or</i> Star Wars,

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<i>that was the starting
place for</i> Quantumania.

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<i>But we were very conscious of this
film feeling like its own thing.</i>

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<i>And we spent a year
concepting this film.</i>

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It's the longest run of concept time
that I've ever had on a film at Marvel.

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The way this hood is hanging
over, that's pretty cool there.

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Because you can just barely see the eyes,
so that then when there's the reveal...

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Before we release...

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One of my big influences on
this was just going through

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old '60s and '70s and '80s
science fiction paperbacks

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<i>and looking at the covers.</i>

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<i>And they were all about just
creating these whacked-out worlds.</i>

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<i>But also, I think you can't do a movie
like this without looking at Moebius.</i>

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<i>Things like</i> Flash Gordon.

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So literally, we had
everything on the table.

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{\an8}The best thing about

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{\an8}doing a sequel

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<i>is the opportunity to work with
the people you worked with before.</i>

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<i>So there's a familiarity.</i>

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<i>You don't have to go in like strangers
and kind of feel your way out.</i>

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When you're lucky enough to get to
tell a third film in your series,

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<i>it means that you've been together with
some of these cast members for years,</i>

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<i>and with that comes a lot of trust
about the kind of story you're telling.</i>

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It's anchored by
these amazing actors,

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<i>you know, and the choices we made
going back to that first film.</i>

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<i>And you look at actors like
Evangeline Lilly, Paul Rudd,</i>

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<i>Michael Douglas, and Michelle Pfeiffer,
who joined in the second film.</i>

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These are heavyweight talents.

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These are absolute
world-class actors,

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<i>which help sell the
craziness of this world.</i>

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- Show us!
- Show us!

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You're
going to love it.

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We'll see about that.

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<i>Scott Lang, he's
had a lot to digest.</i>

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<i>We start this film. The events
of</i> Endgame <i>have happened.</i>

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{\an8}And now, I think that, for
the first time in many years,

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{\an8}<i>Scott is able to take a
breath and kind of sit back</i>

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<i>and spend some time
with his daughter</i>

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and enjoy just being
present in his own life.

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But that doesn't last
that long, that peace.

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Dad!

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<i>Scott is
just a dad who realizes</i>

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that he's accidentally
brought his daughter

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{\an8}into this world with him now.

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<i>And now he sees, like, "Oh,
man, I can't really play this</i>

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<i>"as loose as I usually do.</i>

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<i>"I got to keep my
daughter safe."</i>

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<i>And so I really tried to
lean into the likeability</i>

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<i>and the everyman
charm of Paul Rudd.</i>

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On top of that, he can deliver any
joke and make it ten times better

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just by saying it.

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Hmm.

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It's like we're camping.
We love camping.

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We've
never been camping.

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But we've always
talked about it.

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He is just endlessly coming up with
different ways to come at a scene.

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You know, we work very
hard on the screenplay and,

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and get it where we want
it, and we shoot that.

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But we always mix it up and,
you know, nine times out of ten,

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Paul's going to figure out a better,
funnier way to tell that story.

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Your Nobel Prize is in the mail.

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It better be. I just
saved eight bucks.

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God, I admire you.

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Thank you.

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<i>It was really fun
to play Evangeline Lilly</i>

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<i>as, like, the
straight-edge, high status,</i>

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<i>highly capable, highly
efficient person.</i>

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She really surprised me with
her just dead-on deliveries.

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She's been, uh, really
great in this movie.

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No pizza in the Quantum Realm?

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No. No anything.

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You know, Mom, you can
talk about it. If you want.

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I'll be honest and tell you
it's been really difficult.

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Because I...

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Every time I revisit Hope, every
time I come back for a new film,

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<i>I realize I have
to reinvent her,</i>

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<i>I have to figure
out who she is now,</i>

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<i>what that looks like
and how to make sure</i>

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<i>that it doesn't look like a
completely different person,</i>

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like that there's a through
line that you still see Hope

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and you feel her.

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I think maybe a little
bit of a drift in, right?

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- There's a whole thing I can see.
- Yeah, there's a force field

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that goes all the way
around this thing, right?

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- Okay.
- So taking that in,

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a little bit of a, a move in,

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and then I'll cue you for, um...

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You've got to do something. That's
where you dig for the thing.

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I used to jokingly talk
about the first film,

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like she was just always in a bad
mood and kind of had attitude.

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Okay, we can try this and when
he fails, I'll do it myself.

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<i>But by the second film already,
I felt like I had to drop that,</i>

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because she was in
a much better place.

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<i>So, each film, I'm like, "Wait,
who is she and how do I play that?</i>

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<i>"And how do I make sure
that it's still Hope?"</i>

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And it's been a challenge, but
a challenge that I welcome.

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- Awesome.
- If only Cap could see you now.

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<i>In</i> Ant-Man and the Wasp,

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<i>Hope brought her mother
back from the Quantum Realm,</i>

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<i>and was very, very excited.</i>

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I think she might have
had little girl fantasies

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about what that
reunion would be like.

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Mommy and I will tell
each other everything.

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<i>We'll be best of friends.</i>

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I missed you so much.

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I missed you too, jellybean.

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What we don't see between
the last film and this one

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is that she wasn't so open.

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<i>She wasn't so intimate.
She wasn't so vulnerable.</i>

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Do not move.

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There was a closed-off part of
her that Hope couldn't reach

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<i>and it hurts.</i>

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<i>Hope and Janet, working through
the gaps in their relationship.</i>

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So, you've been studying
the Quantum Realm?

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- Mm-hmm.
- Why didn't you ask me about it?

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I tried, Mom.

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A lot.

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You never wanted
to talk about it.

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Michelle and I were really passionate
about that part of the story.

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<i>And we spent a lot of time
making that really honest.</i>

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<i>We didn't want it glossed over.</i>

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We didn't want their
tension to be cute.

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You said there was
nothing down here.

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Why didn't you
tell us about this?

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I will explain everything,
but right now...

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- I need you to trust me.
- Then make me trust you!

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I started to get really
excited about the movie

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<i>once we talked about Janet.</i>

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Janet, what
is he talking about?

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<i>This is Janet's
history of violence coming back.</i>

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This is Michelle
Pfeiffer's <i>Unforgiven.</i>

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How many worlds will die

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if you get out?

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Not yours.

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<i>This is that movie
with a legendary movie star,</i>

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<i>and it's her past coming
back to destroy her family.</i>

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And Michelle brought so much
pathos and guilt to this character.

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I couldn't beat him.
He was too powerful.

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What did you do?

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<i>This is the first film
where I think we really get to know Janet.</i>

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{\an8}I do think she struggles with
feeling like an outsider.

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<i>It's interesting. On the previous film,
I just wasn't there for that long.</i>

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And, cut! Yeah. Great.

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<i>I think I sort
of maybe left the last one</i>

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<i>feeling still a little
bit of an outsider,</i>

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because my visit was so brief.

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Let's go home.

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But this one, we were really
in the trenches together

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for a very long time.

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<i>I even said to Michael one day,
I turned to him and I said,</i>

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<i>"I'm just so happy that I got
to know you on this film."</i>

224
00:11:23,165 --> 00:11:25,376
<i>It's watching and
learning from each other.</i>

225
00:11:25,459 --> 00:11:27,712
<i>And, you know,
Michael is hysterical,</i>

226
00:11:27,795 --> 00:11:29,463
<i>no matter what you
give him to say.</i>

227
00:11:29,839 --> 00:11:31,090
I love ants.

228
00:11:32,425 --> 00:11:34,051
I love ants.

229
00:11:35,886 --> 00:11:38,556
<i>There's just
a fun factor to it,</i>

230
00:11:38,639 --> 00:11:42,059
to get into this other world,
you know, the Quantum Realm.

231
00:11:42,143 --> 00:11:45,021
And "anything goes" is a trip.

232
00:11:47,898 --> 00:11:50,359
What I discovered about
Michael Douglas in these movies

233
00:11:50,443 --> 00:11:51,694
is how funny he is.

234
00:11:52,153 --> 00:11:53,362
You read my book?

235
00:11:54,155 --> 00:11:57,116
Every goddamn word.

236
00:11:58,409 --> 00:12:00,995
I think the general
audience thinks of Michael

237
00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,205
in, you know, sexy thrillers,

238
00:12:03,289 --> 00:12:06,834
<i>and his great commanding voice, and
he's an incredible dramatic actor.</i>

239
00:12:06,917 --> 00:12:09,462
<i>But his comedic
chops are fantastic.</i>

240
00:12:09,587 --> 00:12:11,297
She had some questions, okay?

241
00:12:11,380 --> 00:12:13,758
I can't help if people
are inspired by me.

242
00:12:13,841 --> 00:12:16,010
He really is Hollywood royalty.

243
00:12:16,093 --> 00:12:19,347
So to get him as Hank Pym in
that first movie was exciting.

244
00:12:19,889 --> 00:12:24,018
40 years ago, I created a formula
that altered atomic relative distance.

245
00:12:24,685 --> 00:12:25,686
What does that mean?

246
00:12:27,063 --> 00:12:29,065
I learned how to change
the distance between atoms.

247
00:12:29,148 --> 00:12:32,818
<i>And to build this character of
Hank, who is a mentor character to Scott.</i>

248
00:12:32,902 --> 00:12:34,820
<i>But he's kind of a
bent mentor, right?</i>

249
00:12:35,446 --> 00:12:38,824
Hank, I'm a thief. I'm a good
thief, but this is insane.

250
00:12:39,825 --> 00:12:42,453
There's some morally gray
areas, uh, about Hank,

251
00:12:42,536 --> 00:12:44,580
<i>and he can be a bit
of a curmudgeon.</i>

252
00:12:44,664 --> 00:12:47,583
But I love Michael's energy
in a big way in this movie.

253
00:12:47,667 --> 00:12:49,585
I would've just broken
you out with ants.

254
00:12:49,669 --> 00:12:52,230
All right, you know what? Family
meeting. Can we have a family meeting?

255
00:12:52,254 --> 00:12:53,374
Isn't that what we're doing?

256
00:12:53,422 --> 00:12:54,423
Yeah, I mean about this.

257
00:12:54,507 --> 00:12:56,592
About everybody being
so fine with this.

258
00:12:58,761 --> 00:12:59,762
Here we go.

259
00:13:04,058 --> 00:13:07,853
We had discussions about who the
villain of this movie was going to be,

260
00:13:07,937 --> 00:13:13,401
and we loved the idea of pitting
Ant-Man against a major Marvel villain.

261
00:13:13,859 --> 00:13:15,111
<i>You're an interesting man...</i>

262
00:13:18,906 --> 00:13:20,408
Scott Lang.

263
00:13:20,491 --> 00:13:22,118
<i>Kang the Conqueror came to mind</i>

264
00:13:22,243 --> 00:13:25,204
because I was a fan of Kang's
since I was a kid, in the comics.

265
00:13:32,586 --> 00:13:34,672
<i>That excited us,
to take the Avenger</i>

266
00:13:34,755 --> 00:13:37,633
who might be perceived as
certainly the tiniest Avenger,

267
00:13:37,717 --> 00:13:41,804
and putting him up against this
powerful, powerful multiversal villain.

268
00:13:48,185 --> 00:13:49,186
You're an Avenger?

269
00:13:53,149 --> 00:13:54,191
Have I killed you before?

270
00:13:55,693 --> 00:13:56,777
What?

271
00:13:57,653 --> 00:13:59,655
They all blur together
after a while.

272
00:14:00,406 --> 00:14:06,120
Audiences have seen a version of
this character in the series <i>Loki.</i>

273
00:14:08,205 --> 00:14:10,249
This is wild.

274
00:14:14,712 --> 00:14:15,838
He Who Remains.

275
00:14:16,505 --> 00:14:19,341
It's a very different character.
It's just a variation.

276
00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,304
<i>He Who Remains
is kind of squirrelly guy</i>

277
00:14:23,387 --> 00:14:25,222
<i>who hides away at
the end of time,</i>

278
00:14:25,347 --> 00:14:27,141
and this is the
guy he's afraid of.

279
00:14:30,144 --> 00:14:32,021
<i>This is Kang the Conqueror.</i>

280
00:14:36,567 --> 00:14:40,613
This is the version that every other
version of him is terrified of,

281
00:14:40,696 --> 00:14:44,700
<i>so terrified that they had to ambush him
and banish him down to the Quantum Realm.</i>

282
00:14:45,159 --> 00:14:46,327
What is this place?

283
00:14:54,627 --> 00:14:56,045
Once I get out of here,

284
00:14:58,380 --> 00:15:01,717
I can take any universe I want.

285
00:15:03,969 --> 00:15:09,016
{\an8}The <i>Ant-Man</i> franchise, within
the MCU, has a very clear ethos

286
00:15:09,099 --> 00:15:11,811
{\an8}has a very clear rhythm to it.

287
00:15:14,438 --> 00:15:18,108
I had the benefit of stepping into
a song that was already playing.

288
00:15:19,735 --> 00:15:22,988
<i>Today we conquer eternity.</i>

289
00:15:38,295 --> 00:15:41,757
<i>The Marvel movies, I think, are
at their best when you have a villain</i>

290
00:15:42,508 --> 00:15:45,094
<i>that is a really
compelling character.</i>

291
00:15:46,136 --> 00:15:48,514
A villain who has a
very clear agenda...

292
00:15:48,597 --> 00:15:50,015
Just be glad I need you.

293
00:15:50,099 --> 00:15:51,976
<i>A villain who
also has this side</i>

294
00:15:52,059 --> 00:15:56,272
that you kind of relate to their
point of view despite yourself.

295
00:15:56,355 --> 00:15:59,275
<i>We wanted Kang to really,
really embody that.</i>

296
00:16:01,110 --> 00:16:02,778
We're going to get out of here.

297
00:16:06,115 --> 00:16:07,384
<i>She's gonna
open the door...</i>

298
00:16:09,451 --> 00:16:10,611
<i>and you'll be there.</i>

299
00:16:11,871 --> 00:16:13,473
<i>When it
came to the costume,</i>

300
00:16:13,497 --> 00:16:16,166
<i>Kang is very much this
futuristic character.</i>

301
00:16:16,250 --> 00:16:19,628
{\an8}He's very foreign in a lot of ways
to our culture and to our world.

302
00:16:20,254 --> 00:16:23,799
So he has a very different,
very sleek, futuristic appeal.

303
00:16:23,883 --> 00:16:26,760
That's what conquerors do.

304
00:16:27,553 --> 00:16:30,055
They burn the broken world.

305
00:16:31,307 --> 00:16:34,268
And they make a new one.

306
00:16:34,351 --> 00:16:36,103
It's always a challenge
when you're bringing

307
00:16:36,186 --> 00:16:39,231
a Marvel Comics character
from a two-dimensional page

308
00:16:39,315 --> 00:16:42,234
into a living, breathing
person in a movie.

309
00:16:42,401 --> 00:16:44,904
<i>Because a lot of those designs,
almost all of them were,</i>

310
00:16:44,987 --> 00:16:46,780
<i>you know, originated
in the '60s.</i>

311
00:16:46,864 --> 00:16:49,992
<i>But we looked at all the panels and
we really embraced these things,</i>

312
00:16:50,075 --> 00:16:54,371
<i>and how can we do the sort of
21st-century version of that thing?</i>

313
00:16:54,830 --> 00:16:59,335
Taking visual cues from the comics
and, and making them feel real.

314
00:17:03,797 --> 00:17:05,507
<i>This was probably</i>

315
00:17:05,591 --> 00:17:07,551
<i>the most difficult costume
on the film to make.</i>

316
00:17:07,676 --> 00:17:13,057
<i>The concept was drawn in a way that
you couldn't tell what the fabric was,</i>

317
00:17:13,140 --> 00:17:16,727
{\an8}whether it's hard or soft,
so we had to experiment.

318
00:17:16,810 --> 00:17:22,024
{\an8}I think this is the third version
of how we solved the problem.

319
00:17:22,107 --> 00:17:25,235
<i>What Peyton was really
keen on was the lines of this...</i>

320
00:17:25,319 --> 00:17:26,612
It was this line.

321
00:17:26,695 --> 00:17:28,030
- Yeah.
- Comic book accurate.

322
00:17:28,113 --> 00:17:32,242
{\an8}So he wanted the size of that collar.
He wanted these lines flowing down.

323
00:17:32,326 --> 00:17:35,955
{\an8}And although we had that, they had to
be broken up to allow for more movement.

324
00:17:38,874 --> 00:17:44,088
Starting out, they brought the
costume completely into the trailer.

325
00:17:45,047 --> 00:17:47,383
<i>And I did take a moment.</i>

326
00:17:48,842 --> 00:17:52,554
And then once I put it on,
I went, "Mmm, this is it."

327
00:17:52,638 --> 00:17:57,434
You know, like, there are very few moments
in my life where you go, "This is it."

328
00:18:01,689 --> 00:18:03,649
<i>There is a
energy within the suit.</i>

329
00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:05,734
<i>It makes you stand up straight.</i>

330
00:18:05,901 --> 00:18:07,381
You know, that's
just how it's built.

331
00:18:07,987 --> 00:18:11,907
There's mysticism about
it, you know. It's iconic.

332
00:18:14,994 --> 00:18:17,079
{\an8}I think one of the hardest
things in this film

333
00:18:17,162 --> 00:18:19,248
{\an8}from a design point of view
was to find that balance

334
00:18:19,331 --> 00:18:21,875
of a certain amount of
familiarity about things,

335
00:18:21,959 --> 00:18:24,920
<i>but not be exactly
what you think it is.</i>

336
00:18:25,045 --> 00:18:28,257
<i>One of the things that I
looked at quite early on were</i>

337
00:18:28,382 --> 00:18:31,427
<i>natural photography
and electron microscopy</i>

338
00:18:31,510 --> 00:18:33,554
<i>and just trying to find
colors and textures</i>

339
00:18:33,637 --> 00:18:36,640
to help take it from it
just being this sort of

340
00:18:36,724 --> 00:18:38,726
hard surface,
technological world

341
00:18:38,809 --> 00:18:41,353
<i>to having this slightly
more organic feeling to it.</i>

342
00:18:41,437 --> 00:18:43,731
<i>And that's quite a tricky
thing, to strike that balance.</i>

343
00:18:44,314 --> 00:18:47,026
I just started with some
initial sort of sketches,

344
00:18:47,109 --> 00:18:50,320
put together a bunch of reference
boards and materials for Peyton,

345
00:18:50,404 --> 00:18:52,322
just to create the
whole vibe of the world.

346
00:18:53,198 --> 00:18:54,616
Look up. Spin.

347
00:18:55,159 --> 00:18:57,327
It's coming in, it's
coming in, it's coming in.

348
00:18:57,411 --> 00:18:58,746
And, bang!

349
00:18:59,413 --> 00:19:01,165
Look at him. Pry him off.

350
00:19:03,584 --> 00:19:08,297
This world that they've
created was, um, pretty spectacular.

351
00:19:10,799 --> 00:19:14,636
<i>We worked with this
relatively new technology,</i>

352
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,306
<i>The Volume, where
they actually project,</i>

353
00:19:17,389 --> 00:19:20,893
<i>in 3D, all around
you on the stage.</i>

354
00:19:20,976 --> 00:19:24,396
<i>So you are really there and
you're not having to pretend.</i>

355
00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,982
This changes everything
we know about life,

356
00:19:27,441 --> 00:19:30,235
about evolution, our
place in the galaxy...

357
00:19:30,360 --> 00:19:31,612
Holy shit!

358
00:19:32,738 --> 00:19:33,947
That guy looks like broccoli.

359
00:19:37,367 --> 00:19:38,827
<i>When using The Volume,</i>

360
00:19:38,911 --> 00:19:42,122
from a design point of view,
you have to start early...

361
00:19:42,289 --> 00:19:44,541
All right, everybody.
We're gonna get started now.

362
00:19:44,625 --> 00:19:46,001
<i>to feed the process.</i>

363
00:19:46,085 --> 00:19:48,629
<i>It's a little bit like bringing
postproduction up front</i>

364
00:19:48,712 --> 00:19:53,050
and bringing preproduction, production
and postproduction all together.

365
00:19:53,133 --> 00:19:55,677
<i>So that you can actually,
in effect, shoot on it.</i>

366
00:19:55,886 --> 00:19:58,931
<i>Give us as much in camera as we
can, really make it feel real.</i>

367
00:19:59,515 --> 00:20:03,227
Not only that, we had these
incredibly imaginative,

368
00:20:03,310 --> 00:20:05,729
otherworldly characters,

369
00:20:05,813 --> 00:20:08,649
<i>and the costumes and
the makeup design.</i>

370
00:20:09,900 --> 00:20:11,902
<i>You really felt like
you were entering</i>

371
00:20:11,985 --> 00:20:17,741
<i>this sort of strange and
frightening and magical universe.</i>

372
00:20:20,077 --> 00:20:22,204
Once we get into our...

373
00:20:22,287 --> 00:20:24,623
Michael and Evangeline are here.

374
00:20:25,958 --> 00:20:27,668
Rock guy in the background.

375
00:20:27,751 --> 00:20:29,962
Right, guys? So I imagine
that we can use him here.

376
00:20:30,087 --> 00:20:32,881
You'll be able to get
him in the foreground,

377
00:20:32,965 --> 00:20:35,045
like floating pieces of rock
right in the foreground.

378
00:20:35,175 --> 00:20:36,385
This, I think would be great.

379
00:20:36,468 --> 00:20:40,430
{\an8}The biggest challenges on this
film is inventing every look

380
00:20:40,514 --> 00:20:42,057
{\an8}and every idea
from the ground up.

381
00:20:43,058 --> 00:20:44,977
<i>And at every angle,
we've asked ourselves,</i>

382
00:20:45,060 --> 00:20:46,663
<i>'What's the Quantum
Realm version of this?</i>

383
00:20:46,687 --> 00:20:48,564
<i>"What's the Quantum
Realm version of aliens?"</i>

384
00:20:48,772 --> 00:20:51,275
<i>We call them aliens because
that's the term we're used to,</i>

385
00:20:51,358 --> 00:20:52,678
<i>it's the shorthand
we're used to.</i>

386
00:20:52,734 --> 00:20:53,774
<i>But essentially, it's not.</i>

387
00:20:53,819 --> 00:20:55,946
<i>It's a whole different world
and a whole different way</i>

388
00:20:56,029 --> 00:20:58,574
of looking at species and life.

389
00:20:58,949 --> 00:21:00,760
<i>We
needed to go quite extreme.</i>

390
00:21:00,784 --> 00:21:03,162
<i>Nothing should be like
it is in our world.</i>

391
00:21:03,245 --> 00:21:06,456
{\an8}It should be an ephemeral
sort of universe.

392
00:21:13,964 --> 00:21:16,967
<i>We were getting
some very unusual designs.</i>

393
00:21:20,345 --> 00:21:23,807
<i>This guy is Pixel Man,
he was a great favorite.</i>

394
00:21:23,891 --> 00:21:25,684
<i>The idea of him is
that he looks like</i>

395
00:21:25,767 --> 00:21:28,520
a collection of pixels
floating in the space

396
00:21:28,604 --> 00:21:31,481
<i>that are kind of concentrated
and become the body of a human.</i>

397
00:21:31,815 --> 00:21:34,902
{\an8}We had a lovely guy
called Kintsugi Man.

398
00:21:37,571 --> 00:21:40,365
<i>This lovely gentleman here
actually was one of our stuntmen.</i>

399
00:21:40,490 --> 00:21:42,951
<i>So we knew he was going
to have to perform stunts.</i>

400
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,579
So I wanted a fairly
robust makeup.

401
00:21:45,662 --> 00:21:49,249
I mean, obviously, he couldn't
have anything as delicate as those.

402
00:21:49,333 --> 00:21:52,085
<i>We completely covered him,
and he had prosthetic pieces.</i>

403
00:21:52,169 --> 00:21:54,796
<i>You can see these
are all built up</i>

404
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,216
to give him this sort
of slightly broken look.

405
00:21:57,299 --> 00:22:00,260
We also had a lovely chap
we called Ribbon Man,

406
00:22:00,344 --> 00:22:03,305
because I wanted it to look
like his face was unraveling.

407
00:22:03,388 --> 00:22:06,642
So we drew, like, a
bandaged effect on his face.

408
00:22:06,725 --> 00:22:08,477
<i>And then we had these
ribbons coming off,</i>

409
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,271
<i>but we had the inside
of the ribbon dark blue,</i>

410
00:22:11,355 --> 00:22:13,041
<i>which, if you looked at
the back of his skull,</i>

411
00:22:13,065 --> 00:22:14,900
<i>looked like it was the
inside of his head.</i>

412
00:22:15,025 --> 00:22:18,320
Some of the things you really
couldn't physically make them.

413
00:22:18,403 --> 00:22:21,031
<i>To actually sculpt them with your
hands would be very difficult.</i>

414
00:22:21,156 --> 00:22:24,159
<i>So I just exploited 3D
printing like crazy.</i>

415
00:22:24,785 --> 00:22:30,123
<i>That was the first for me, to actually
do a 3D-printed mold and produce pieces</i>

416
00:22:30,207 --> 00:22:33,293
that were to merge
with the skin.

417
00:22:33,585 --> 00:22:35,939
There are moments when you are
reading the script, and you go,

418
00:22:35,963 --> 00:22:39,424
<i>"I just struggle to understand
what that is as a concept."</i>

419
00:22:40,259 --> 00:22:43,387
<i>And then you kind of get into it
and you start spitballing ideas,</i>

420
00:22:43,470 --> 00:22:45,055
<i>and artworking up stuff.</i>

421
00:22:45,138 --> 00:22:47,766
<i>And then it tends to
have a life of its own.</i>

422
00:22:48,684 --> 00:22:52,062
<i>Good example of that would be
the controls for Krylar's yacht.</i>

423
00:22:53,397 --> 00:22:55,649
Where are the controls?

424
00:22:55,732 --> 00:22:56,775
Those are the controls.

425
00:22:58,402 --> 00:22:59,444
What the hell?

426
00:23:03,448 --> 00:23:05,867
<i>Initially, it
was called a dielectric gel,</i>

427
00:23:06,410 --> 00:23:10,122
and it's used for waterproofing
electrical components.

428
00:23:10,330 --> 00:23:12,833
<i>It's a very sticky,
mucusy jelly,</i>

429
00:23:12,916 --> 00:23:15,460
and it's not really
of any use to us.

430
00:23:15,544 --> 00:23:17,838
But I started mixing it
with another material,

431
00:23:17,921 --> 00:23:21,925
<i>and I was able to harden it
and change the properties of it</i>

432
00:23:22,009 --> 00:23:24,177
<i>to make it much more
useful as a prosthetic.</i>

433
00:23:24,886 --> 00:23:26,513
And let's start that up!

434
00:23:26,596 --> 00:23:28,908
<i>Sometimes you just have
to take a risk and experiment,</i>

435
00:23:28,932 --> 00:23:30,767
and I think we got a
great physical result.

436
00:23:30,851 --> 00:23:34,021
And I've got to say, Michael Douglas
was an absolute professional.

437
00:23:40,360 --> 00:23:41,361
- Hello.
- Whoa!

438
00:23:41,528 --> 00:23:42,529
Hi. Hi.

439
00:23:42,612 --> 00:23:43,989
Did you drink the ooze?

440
00:23:45,741 --> 00:23:47,326
- Why can I understand you?
- Oh.

441
00:23:47,409 --> 00:23:48,493
Great. That's the ooze.

442
00:23:48,577 --> 00:23:50,787
Hey, everybody, It
worked! Ooze worked!

443
00:23:52,289 --> 00:23:56,960
Veb, he's just this blob with
these weird, creepy arms.

444
00:23:57,044 --> 00:23:59,046
Hi. I am Veb. You just drank me.

445
00:23:59,129 --> 00:24:00,130
I did... What?

446
00:24:00,255 --> 00:24:02,466
This is amazing,
because it's so weird.

447
00:24:02,591 --> 00:24:06,053
We knew we needed someone to inhabit
it in ways where would come to life,

448
00:24:06,136 --> 00:24:07,721
even though it's a
fully CG character.

449
00:24:07,804 --> 00:24:11,224
You wanted to feel personality
and feel the performance of that.

450
00:24:12,267 --> 00:24:14,186
I have holes.

451
00:24:14,269 --> 00:24:18,440
<i>Very early on, we hit upon
the idea of inviting David Dastmalchian</i>

452
00:24:18,523 --> 00:24:20,233
back to the <i>Ant-Man</i> franchise

453
00:24:20,317 --> 00:24:23,445
to play a completely different
character than he had played

454
00:24:23,528 --> 00:24:24,946
in the first two films.

455
00:24:25,030 --> 00:24:27,282
Oh, that's Kurt. He was
at Folsom for five years.

456
00:24:27,366 --> 00:24:28,742
He's a wizard on that laptop.

457
00:24:30,035 --> 00:24:31,995
- Nice meet you.
- Nice to meet you, too.

458
00:24:32,079 --> 00:24:35,123
{\an8}When Peyton told me about the role, I'd
never done anything like this before.

459
00:24:35,207 --> 00:24:37,542
{\an8}What would this look like?
How would they involve me?

460
00:24:37,626 --> 00:24:40,962
{\an8}Was I just going to get to go to a
booth at some point and give my voice?

461
00:24:41,046 --> 00:24:43,006
To me, what I wanted

462
00:24:43,090 --> 00:24:47,594
was the opportunity to,
like, be there on set.

463
00:24:47,677 --> 00:24:48,929
A big hole.

464
00:24:49,054 --> 00:24:50,430
How many holes do you have?

465
00:24:51,014 --> 00:24:52,492
I'm sorry. Is that
a personal question?

466
00:24:52,516 --> 00:24:53,809
I don't have any holes.

467
00:24:53,892 --> 00:24:57,312
<i>When I stepped
foot for the very first time</i>

468
00:24:57,396 --> 00:24:59,940
<i>on the set of the Quantum Realm,</i>

469
00:25:00,065 --> 00:25:05,445
it was like all my childhood dreams
of making movies coming to life.

470
00:25:05,529 --> 00:25:08,949
There was so much practical
set building happening there,

471
00:25:09,032 --> 00:25:11,535
and then all the
magnificent imagination.

472
00:25:11,618 --> 00:25:14,037
{\an8}We got to make sort of
like a Marvel <i>Wizard of Oz</i>

473
00:25:14,121 --> 00:25:18,250
{\an8}which I felt was, like,
"What an insane opportunity."

474
00:25:18,834 --> 00:25:20,127
You can read minds?

475
00:25:20,210 --> 00:25:23,463
Yeah, and I really
wish I couldn't.

476
00:25:23,547 --> 00:25:26,299
Everyone is disgusting.

477
00:25:27,467 --> 00:25:29,886
- Could you please stop thinking that?
- Sorry.

478
00:25:29,970 --> 00:25:34,391
<i>I had so much fun because I got
to write a corner of the Marvel Universe</i>

479
00:25:34,975 --> 00:25:36,768
that basically felt
like fresh territory.

480
00:25:36,852 --> 00:25:39,938
You guys will take off
your hoods... You let go of him,

481
00:25:40,021 --> 00:25:42,858
take off your hoods, and
reveal that you're fuzzy,

482
00:25:42,941 --> 00:25:44,359
cute little owl creatures.

483
00:25:44,443 --> 00:25:47,154
<i>We got to populate
it with so many creatures,</i>

484
00:25:47,237 --> 00:25:50,949
<i>and they built subcultures
and they built languages.</i>

485
00:25:53,535 --> 00:25:54,786
<i>It's just incredible.</i>

486
00:25:54,870 --> 00:25:58,498
<i>Every second you see on camera
had so much thought behind it,</i>

487
00:25:58,748 --> 00:26:01,388
whereas I'm sitting here on camera
and I was like, "Well, you know,

488
00:26:01,418 --> 00:26:02,919
"there's a broccoli
guy, He's drunk.

489
00:26:03,003 --> 00:26:04,588
"He speaks the
broccoli language."

490
00:26:05,714 --> 00:26:07,674
So, what's your story then?

491
00:26:08,216 --> 00:26:09,509
Move.

492
00:26:10,051 --> 00:26:11,553
It's time. Follow me.

493
00:26:12,721 --> 00:26:15,015
<i>We just tried
to make this as heightened</i>

494
00:26:15,098 --> 00:26:17,976
<i>and as colorful and as
vibrant as possible.</i>

495
00:26:18,059 --> 00:26:21,313
At the same time, you had no rules, but
you also had to make your own rules.

496
00:26:21,396 --> 00:26:25,066
And luckily, those rules could be, you
know, whatever you wanted them to be.

497
00:26:27,944 --> 00:26:29,446
Step out,
please. Glasses on.

498
00:26:31,239 --> 00:26:32,741
{\an8}Yes! Yes!

499
00:26:32,824 --> 00:26:34,576
{\an8}All right, and back it up.

500
00:26:35,911 --> 00:26:38,205
{\an8}- What do we do with our hands?
- Back it up.

501
00:26:38,288 --> 00:26:39,728
{\an8}- Superhero stuff.
- Superhero stuff.

502
00:26:39,831 --> 00:26:41,500
{\an8}Oh, look at that!
She's a natural.

503
00:26:41,625 --> 00:26:43,545
{\an8}One of our philosophies
that we've always applied

504
00:26:43,627 --> 00:26:46,755
<i>is to just go back to character
and to root it in character.</i>

505
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:51,843
And the science fiction and
the world building is fun.

506
00:26:51,927 --> 00:26:53,386
Dad!

507
00:26:57,682 --> 00:26:59,267
But, ultimately,
it's window dressing

508
00:26:59,351 --> 00:27:02,354
to this story about a father
and his daughter reconnecting.

509
00:27:03,271 --> 00:27:04,731
Dad!

510
00:27:05,315 --> 00:27:09,486
<i>As far as having Kathryn
now play Cassie as a young adult,</i>

511
00:27:09,569 --> 00:27:11,571
it was great because it's life.

512
00:27:11,655 --> 00:27:14,115
It's much different dealing
with a 6-year-old...

513
00:27:14,199 --> 00:27:17,452
Mommy's so happy you're here,
she choked on her drink.

514
00:27:17,536 --> 00:27:20,872
<i>than it is
somebody who's 18.</i>

515
00:27:20,956 --> 00:27:22,749
Cassie. What happened?

516
00:27:23,667 --> 00:27:24,876
Jail stuff.

517
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,381
And so, I think the thing that
was fun was watching Kathryn

518
00:27:29,464 --> 00:27:31,925
<i>kind of take on Cassie</i>

519
00:27:32,551 --> 00:27:37,597
<i>and play a character who wants to
find her own way, discover who she is,</i>

520
00:27:37,681 --> 00:27:40,976
<i>and maybe butt heads with
her dad a little bit.</i>

521
00:27:41,059 --> 00:27:43,562
Okay. I have a suit.

522
00:27:44,104 --> 00:27:45,438
Yeah, I noticed.

523
00:27:46,523 --> 00:27:50,193
Oh, man. When I read the
script for the first time,

524
00:27:50,277 --> 00:27:53,446
<i>the thing I was the most stoked
on was Cassie's character.</i>

525
00:27:57,117 --> 00:27:58,577
Yeah. One more.

526
00:27:58,660 --> 00:28:00,662
- Look there.
- Okay.

527
00:28:00,745 --> 00:28:02,789
For about, I don't know,

528
00:28:03,373 --> 00:28:06,001
five years now,

529
00:28:06,084 --> 00:28:11,548
<i>I've been pestering Marvel Studios
about their female characters.</i>

530
00:28:11,631 --> 00:28:15,218
<i>Saying, like, "We're
all very competent.</i>

531
00:28:15,385 --> 00:28:17,137
<i>"We're all very kickass.</i>

532
00:28:17,220 --> 00:28:19,431
<i>"We're all very serious,</i>

533
00:28:20,015 --> 00:28:22,434
<i>"very responsible
women who make sure</i>

534
00:28:22,517 --> 00:28:25,770
"that we keep the boys in line
and we do everything perfectly.

535
00:28:26,563 --> 00:28:29,024
"And when I look around
at the women in my life,

536
00:28:29,107 --> 00:28:32,152
"there are so many other
colors to the female

537
00:28:32,235 --> 00:28:34,654
<i>"that I would like to
see in your movies."</i>

538
00:28:34,738 --> 00:28:38,325
{\an8}<i>And then I read the script
and Cassie is just...</i>

539
00:28:38,450 --> 00:28:41,828
<i>She's like, zany and brazen</i>

540
00:28:41,911 --> 00:28:48,084
<i>and kind of, like, irresponsible
in a fantastically, um, pure way.</i>

541
00:28:48,168 --> 00:28:49,836
<i>And Kathryn killed it.</i>

542
00:28:52,172 --> 00:28:53,590
Please
let this work.

543
00:28:58,261 --> 00:29:00,513
Yeah!

544
00:29:01,890 --> 00:29:03,058
It worked!

545
00:29:03,808 --> 00:29:04,809
Look at me.

546
00:29:06,561 --> 00:29:07,854
I'm such a dick.

547
00:29:07,937 --> 00:29:10,148
It's never too late
to stop being a dick.

548
00:29:10,231 --> 00:29:11,274
Okay?

549
00:29:11,358 --> 00:29:15,070
<i>Audiences who have a
relationship with young Cassie,</i>

550
00:29:15,153 --> 00:29:17,906
<i>Abby Ryder Fortson, who played her
in the first two</i> Ant-Man <i>movies.</i>

551
00:29:17,989 --> 00:29:20,200
I feel like they want to know

552
00:29:20,283 --> 00:29:22,786
that the daughter of Scott
Lang grows up to be funny.

553
00:29:22,869 --> 00:29:26,831
<i>And grows up to be a bright, optimistic
person in the way that Scott Lang is.</i>

554
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,085
<i>That was really, really
crucial for this movie.</i>

555
00:29:30,168 --> 00:29:33,838
<i>And I'd seen Kathryn in a screen test
that she had done for another Marvel role.</i>

556
00:29:34,923 --> 00:29:36,758
{\an8}- Director Fury sent you.
- Wow. Who?

557
00:29:36,841 --> 00:29:38,259
{\an8}He knows where I live.

558
00:29:38,593 --> 00:29:39,761
{\an8}- Oh. Oh.
- Fury.

559
00:29:40,220 --> 00:29:41,221
You mean Mr. Good Eye.

560
00:29:41,346 --> 00:29:42,657
- No.
- Yeah, he loved you.

561
00:29:42,681 --> 00:29:45,183
Like I said, I was on
a rooftop at Third...

562
00:29:45,266 --> 00:29:47,060
There's more
cookies. Oh, my God.

563
00:29:47,143 --> 00:29:49,813
It's like, wow, she has this
brightness to her. She's funny.

564
00:29:50,438 --> 00:29:53,400
<i>She has this youthful
optimism about her.</i>

565
00:29:53,483 --> 00:29:54,651
<i>And she has the physicality.</i>

566
00:29:54,734 --> 00:29:57,112
<i>She's an athlete. So I
really wanted someone</i>

567
00:29:57,195 --> 00:30:00,824
<i>who could do all the physical
demands that that role required.</i>

568
00:30:00,907 --> 00:30:02,742
<i>And Kathryn was just terrific.</i>

569
00:30:03,118 --> 00:30:04,998
<i>For a lot of the movie,
our heroes are split up.</i>

570
00:30:05,078 --> 00:30:07,288
And Scott and Cassie are
on one side of the story.

571
00:30:07,372 --> 00:30:10,667
<i>So I needed someone who could
really, really hang with Scott</i>

572
00:30:10,750 --> 00:30:12,870
<i>because it was important for
the dynamic of the movie.</i>

573
00:30:12,919 --> 00:30:16,214
<i>So I needed an actor in
the role to play Cassie</i>

574
00:30:16,297 --> 00:30:18,800
<i>who could really
spar with Paul Rudd.</i>

575
00:30:19,259 --> 00:30:20,760
This is not our fight.

576
00:30:20,844 --> 00:30:23,888
Just 'cause it's not happening to
you doesn't mean it's not happening.

577
00:30:24,806 --> 00:30:26,683
She's disappointed in you.

578
00:30:26,891 --> 00:30:29,227
- I got that. Yeah. Thank you.
- You're welcome.

579
00:30:29,310 --> 00:30:32,105
{\an8}Paul is the best.

580
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:33,481
{\an8}He was so welcoming.

581
00:30:33,565 --> 00:30:34,607
Boom!

582
00:30:36,693 --> 00:30:37,944
Cut it.

583
00:30:38,027 --> 00:30:39,320
That was too close.

584
00:30:39,404 --> 00:30:43,575
And he told me not to hold back.
Like, on our second day of shooting,

585
00:30:43,658 --> 00:30:45,118
<i>I was just trying
to be invisible.</i>

586
00:30:45,201 --> 00:30:46,202
Back up.

587
00:30:46,286 --> 00:30:48,121
<i>I was like,
"Okay, just don't mess up</i>

588
00:30:48,204 --> 00:30:50,004
<i>- "and then, like, you'll be okay."</i>
- Back up.

589
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,877
- Get back!
- Oh! Oh!

590
00:30:56,755 --> 00:30:58,256
<i>And we had this scene</i>

591
00:30:58,339 --> 00:31:00,925
<i>with Michelle and Michael
and Hope and everybody.</i>

592
00:31:01,009 --> 00:31:03,470
And Peyton was like,
"Okay, now do one for fun."

593
00:31:03,553 --> 00:31:06,264
<i>And I was like, "Okay."
So I started improvising.</i>

594
00:31:06,347 --> 00:31:08,308
<i>And I did,
like, whatever I wanted.</i>

595
00:31:08,433 --> 00:31:10,810
<i>And then afterwards, Paul was
like, "You've got to do that."</i>

596
00:31:10,894 --> 00:31:12,979
<i>He's like, "You don't
want to finish this movie</i>

597
00:31:13,062 --> 00:31:15,106
<i>"and feel like you
held anything back."</i>

598
00:31:15,190 --> 00:31:18,419
<i>He's like, "'Cause that's the worst thing.
And the truth is, You just have to kind of</i>

599
00:31:18,443 --> 00:31:20,612
<i>"throw it all down,
do everything you got</i>

600
00:31:20,695 --> 00:31:22,375
<i>"and just make sure
you didn't hold back."</i>

601
00:31:22,405 --> 00:31:24,449
And so that's what I
took away from Paul,

602
00:31:24,532 --> 00:31:27,076
and I'll take that on
forever, to every project.

603
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,369
That was nice.

604
00:31:31,331 --> 00:31:35,668
<i>The first time I tried
on my Cassie superhero costume</i>

605
00:31:35,752 --> 00:31:37,504
was when it really felt real.

606
00:31:38,129 --> 00:31:40,673
<i>I'll never forget it, because
it fit pretty perfect.</i>

607
00:31:41,633 --> 00:31:44,677
It's a distinct suit.
No other hero has that. Boom!

608
00:31:45,887 --> 00:31:48,932
- No other hero has what?
- No, we were just talking about...

609
00:31:49,015 --> 00:31:53,311
<i>Cassie's suit is very
much inspired by the ant suit,</i>

610
00:31:53,394 --> 00:31:55,438
although Scott doesn't
know it exists.

611
00:31:55,814 --> 00:31:57,690
You have a suit?
Wait, you have a suit?

612
00:31:57,774 --> 00:32:00,443
<i>So she's kind of
taken references from that</i>

613
00:32:00,527 --> 00:32:02,195
<i>and had help making this.</i>

614
00:32:02,278 --> 00:32:03,988
<i>So it's a bit of a
surprise in the film.</i>

615
00:32:04,072 --> 00:32:06,491
<i>The purple is obviously
from the comic book.</i>

616
00:32:06,616 --> 00:32:11,204
<i>And the fun thing in this is
that she's wearing Converse.</i>

617
00:32:11,621 --> 00:32:13,790
- I like where we ended up, man.
- Good job.

618
00:32:14,499 --> 00:32:16,626
Because, as well
as doing Cassie,

619
00:32:16,709 --> 00:32:19,295
we're also working
on Ant-Man and Wasp.

620
00:32:19,379 --> 00:32:21,923
<i>We're working on all
the other characters.</i>

621
00:32:22,006 --> 00:32:23,967
<i>They have to come
along together.</i>

622
00:32:24,050 --> 00:32:27,554
I think if you were doing one,
from a sewing perspective,

623
00:32:27,637 --> 00:32:30,306
it's probably about two weeks'
sewing, but that doesn't include

624
00:32:30,390 --> 00:32:33,476
<i>the backpack and the helmets,
all their extra bits and pieces.</i>

625
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,939
<i>Even though we had a long time to
prep, there was a change in the concept</i>

626
00:32:38,022 --> 00:32:40,650
<i>of what the suits
were during prep.</i>

627
00:32:40,733 --> 00:32:44,153
<i>So originally they were meant
to be Quantum Realm suits,</i>

628
00:32:44,237 --> 00:32:45,947
<i>and then that changed.</i>

629
00:32:46,030 --> 00:32:50,034
We almost had to start again, so
they became less of a kind of team,

630
00:32:50,118 --> 00:32:51,911
and slightly more individual.

631
00:33:02,463 --> 00:33:03,590
<i>For this movie,</i>

632
00:33:03,673 --> 00:33:06,467
<i>we needed a character who sort
of had this backstory with Janet</i>

633
00:33:06,551 --> 00:33:09,888
<i>and it was a role that needed
someone who had a real presence.</i>

634
00:33:10,513 --> 00:33:12,765
Um... And we thought
of Bill Murray.

635
00:33:15,852 --> 00:33:17,812
Janet Van Dyne?

636
00:33:17,896 --> 00:33:19,731
I thought you were dead.

637
00:33:20,398 --> 00:33:22,275
Been a long time, Krylar.

638
00:33:22,358 --> 00:33:25,778
Officially, Lord Krylar now.

639
00:33:25,862 --> 00:33:27,864
I fought like hell against that.

640
00:33:27,947 --> 00:33:31,242
{\an8}I was intrigued by the idea of
putting Bill Murray in a Marvel movie.

641
00:33:31,784 --> 00:33:34,621
<i>I was obviously a fan of his
movies growing up in the '80s</i>

642
00:33:34,704 --> 00:33:36,664
<i>and watching him on</i>
Saturday Night Live.

643
00:33:36,748 --> 00:33:39,334
But I also knew that,
<i>pre-Saturday Night Live,</i>

644
00:33:39,417 --> 00:33:44,672
Bill Murray had played the Human Torch
in the <i>Fantastic Four</i> radio show in 1975,

645
00:33:44,756 --> 00:33:46,036
and I listened to that as a kid.

646
00:33:46,090 --> 00:33:47,175
So we talked about that.

647
00:33:52,180 --> 00:33:54,140
<i>Bill came on set
the first couple weeks.</i>

648
00:33:54,223 --> 00:33:57,810
He was giving just these micro
notes on joke construction.

649
00:33:57,936 --> 00:34:00,813
"Switch that word with that word
and maybe take a pause right there."

650
00:34:00,897 --> 00:34:03,691
<i>And you're like, "Bill Murray
knows what he's talking about."</i>

651
00:34:04,567 --> 00:34:06,861
We never wanted anyone to
guess who he was playing.

652
00:34:06,945 --> 00:34:10,114
The Internet is full of all these rumors,
and no one knows who is going to be.

653
00:34:10,198 --> 00:34:13,493
We chose someone they would
literally never guess.

654
00:34:16,496 --> 00:34:20,416
<i>We tried to find the deepest
cut Marvel character we could</i>

655
00:34:20,500 --> 00:34:24,420
<i>and we found this random character
from a random</i> Hulk <i>comic book</i>

656
00:34:24,504 --> 00:34:26,965
<i>in the Quantum Realm
called Lord Krylar.</i>

657
00:34:29,676 --> 00:34:32,345
{\an8}For the costume, you know, I
talked with Stephen and Peyton

658
00:34:32,428 --> 00:34:34,889
<i>about, "Who is he? Do you
want him more military?</i>

659
00:34:34,973 --> 00:34:36,599
<i>"Do you want him more civilian?</i>

660
00:34:36,683 --> 00:34:39,477
"Can we get away with a suit, or
do you want him more bizarre?"

661
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,147
And I think that, um, vis dev went
through a whole load of things

662
00:34:43,356 --> 00:34:46,526
<i>of it being very, very like,
Quantum and weird and fashiony</i>

663
00:34:46,609 --> 00:34:49,529
<i>and strange textures and stuff,</i>

664
00:34:49,654 --> 00:34:52,448
<i>and that became too theatrical.</i>

665
00:34:52,532 --> 00:34:56,244
So we came up with this blue and
cream and gold combo.

666
00:34:56,911 --> 00:34:59,497
Uh, and just tried to
have a bit of fun with it

667
00:34:59,580 --> 00:35:03,042
rather than, um, getting into too
many kind of crazy patterns and stuff.

668
00:35:03,126 --> 00:35:05,962
<i>Bill brings a lot to the table,
and what you don't want to do is</i>

669
00:35:06,045 --> 00:35:09,132
<i>swamp that with a
confusing, complicated look.</i>

670
00:35:09,215 --> 00:35:11,843
<i>In the end, we pulled it all
back and we get one of these guys</i>

671
00:35:11,926 --> 00:35:14,470
that's in the French Riviera,
that has their yacht,

672
00:35:14,554 --> 00:35:17,849
<i>and just added little Quantum
elements like weird bits of beading,</i>

673
00:35:17,932 --> 00:35:19,809
<i>and strange lines
running across the body.</i>

674
00:35:19,892 --> 00:35:24,689
So there's some continuity of shapes with
Will's designs for all the environments.

675
00:35:25,314 --> 00:35:27,150
{\an8}When Peyton came to
me in the first place

676
00:35:27,233 --> 00:35:29,527
{\an8}and we started talking
about this whole project

677
00:35:30,069 --> 00:35:35,158
<i>and the idea of the Quantum Realm
being this vast worlds within worlds,</i>

678
00:35:35,241 --> 00:35:37,452
<i>he wanted it to feel
like it was huge.</i>

679
00:35:39,746 --> 00:35:43,124
<i>I'm really happy with how
Janet's homestead turned out,</i>

680
00:35:43,207 --> 00:35:46,294
<i>because it's very much
in my initial sketches</i>

681
00:35:46,377 --> 00:35:49,547
<i>and playing with ideas to Peyton,
this idea of subatomic particles</i>

682
00:35:49,630 --> 00:35:53,301
<i>and that maybe the abode that she
lived in was such a tiny particle,</i>

683
00:35:53,384 --> 00:35:59,849
and it crashed down through various
Quanta and landed on a plain and had died,

684
00:35:59,932 --> 00:36:02,101
and its energy had
dissipated over time.

685
00:36:02,185 --> 00:36:04,729
And that became this kind
of cave-like structure.

686
00:36:04,854 --> 00:36:07,023
That was realized
in quite a nice way.

687
00:36:10,777 --> 00:36:12,457
This is the exterior
of Janet's homestead,

688
00:36:12,528 --> 00:36:14,572
and what we wanted to do
here, we were talking about

689
00:36:14,655 --> 00:36:17,700
from early on, was almost to
have it like a prairie land,

690
00:36:17,784 --> 00:36:21,662
like an old Western, like an old-timer
who was seeing out their days.

691
00:36:21,788 --> 00:36:23,915
<i>And this set was meant
to echo that, really,</i>

692
00:36:23,998 --> 00:36:26,876
<i>the idea of some weird
Quantum prairie land</i>

693
00:36:26,959 --> 00:36:28,711
with these strange
Quantum plants,

694
00:36:28,795 --> 00:36:31,881
and this would be
developed by VFX

695
00:36:31,964 --> 00:36:35,051
<i>and extended into much bigger,
greater rolling plains.</i>

696
00:36:42,725 --> 00:36:46,270
These rock walls, again, with the
idea of Quantum energy down here,

697
00:36:46,395 --> 00:36:49,565
that somehow the Quantum energy had
solidified and created these patterns.

698
00:36:49,649 --> 00:36:52,026
And again, when we pull
out into the wider shots,

699
00:36:52,110 --> 00:36:55,780
<i>we're going to have these patterns
running through the landscape,</i>

700
00:36:55,863 --> 00:36:57,698
<i>as well as the actual crops.</i>

701
00:37:08,668 --> 00:37:11,546
Something again that was strongly
pushed throughout this whole show

702
00:37:11,629 --> 00:37:13,798
is trying to create really
interesting compositions.

703
00:37:13,881 --> 00:37:16,926
<i>This idea of the sphere
and concentric spheres,</i>

704
00:37:17,343 --> 00:37:18,695
<i>and here we have
Janet's homestead,</i>

705
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,514
<i>which is a series of
concentric spheres in itself.</i>

706
00:37:21,597 --> 00:37:27,103
<i>And in many ways, this room is a
precursor to Kang's Celestium as well.</i>

707
00:37:27,186 --> 00:37:31,524
Those little design ideas that
were developed out from this idea

708
00:37:31,607 --> 00:37:32,984
into the Celestium itself.

709
00:37:34,694 --> 00:37:35,820
Whoa!

710
00:37:36,404 --> 00:37:38,614
We are on the Richard
Attenborough Stage at Pinewood,

711
00:37:38,698 --> 00:37:42,410
and this is Kang's Celestium
with his Time Sphere.

712
00:37:42,493 --> 00:37:45,746
<i>It's something that I really wanted
to keep as part of Kang's language,</i>

713
00:37:45,830 --> 00:37:48,499
<i>was this circular
or spherical motif.</i>

714
00:37:49,167 --> 00:37:51,043
<i>I looked at a lot
of Japanese Kintsugi</i>

715
00:37:51,127 --> 00:37:53,838
<i>in the way that you have those
sort of cracks through rocks,</i>

716
00:37:53,921 --> 00:37:56,924
<i>and you can seal it up
and re-perfect things.</i>

717
00:37:57,008 --> 00:38:01,053
<i>Which is kind of what Kang is doing,
destroying stuff and then rebuilding it</i>

718
00:38:01,137 --> 00:38:02,638
<i>in a fashion that he sees fit.</i>

719
00:38:05,766 --> 00:38:08,561
I built an empire
down here, Janet.

720
00:38:11,189 --> 00:38:12,607
And I'm taking it with me.

721
00:38:13,566 --> 00:38:17,195
<i>Again, I really wanted to
create very kind of graphic moments</i>

722
00:38:17,278 --> 00:38:20,656
<i>in terms of composition and
try to give Bill Pope, our DP,</i>

723
00:38:20,740 --> 00:38:23,826
<i>an environment in which we
could actually frame up Kang</i>

724
00:38:23,910 --> 00:38:26,510
<i>and it almost looked like panels
from comic book or graphic novel.</i>

725
00:38:32,168 --> 00:38:34,170
Ready... Three,
two, one, action!

726
00:38:34,253 --> 00:38:36,339
- Katy.
- And, bang!

727
00:38:36,422 --> 00:38:37,590
Go, Steve.

728
00:38:37,673 --> 00:38:40,551
Here he comes. And, bang!

729
00:38:40,635 --> 00:38:42,553
<i>I loved the
idea of building</i>

730
00:38:42,637 --> 00:38:46,557
<i>a sort of barbarian type warrior
character for this movie.</i>

731
00:38:46,641 --> 00:38:49,685
That felt like something that
we really hadn't seen so much.

732
00:38:49,769 --> 00:38:52,104
<i>You see a little in</i> Thor,
<i>you know, with Valkyrie,</i>

733
00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:54,565
but somebody who
really felt like

734
00:38:54,649 --> 00:38:57,818
straight out of a Robert E.
Howard, you know, pulp novel.

735
00:38:58,152 --> 00:39:00,321
<i>I had worked with Katy
O'Brian on</i> The Mandalorian

736
00:39:00,404 --> 00:39:01,697
<i>and I thought she was terrific.</i>

737
00:39:01,781 --> 00:39:05,368
She's a bodybuilder and
a fighter, and for real.

738
00:39:06,744 --> 00:39:10,414
She's got great presence, and we
needed someone that was strong

739
00:39:10,498 --> 00:39:14,752
<i>and could embody that aspect of a
leader, but also the wisdom of a leader.</i>

740
00:39:14,835 --> 00:39:18,130
<i>And Katy makes great
impact in that role.</i>

741
00:39:18,714 --> 00:39:22,510
{\an8}With Jentorra, I really liked the
idea that it was a revolutionary.

742
00:39:22,593 --> 00:39:24,762
{\an8}It was something different.
It was someone who was

743
00:39:24,845 --> 00:39:26,031
<i>fighting for the greater good,</i>

744
00:39:26,055 --> 00:39:29,183
as opposed to maybe
suppressing the greater good.

745
00:39:32,561 --> 00:39:36,649
<i>I want people to see, you know, a
strong female role in a positive light.</i>

746
00:39:36,732 --> 00:39:39,235
Because this is like a dream
role in a lot of ways.

747
00:39:39,318 --> 00:39:40,945
What are you doing here?

748
00:39:41,028 --> 00:39:42,238
I'm rescuing you.

749
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:44,240
How?

750
00:39:44,323 --> 00:39:48,911
When it came to the costume, I was so
glad that Sammy, the costume designer,

751
00:39:48,995 --> 00:39:51,515
called me and she was like, "Hey,
have you seen the costume yet?

752
00:39:51,622 --> 00:39:53,822
"Have you seen what we're
pitching?" And I'm like, "No."

753
00:39:53,874 --> 00:39:56,127
She's like, "Okay, I thought
you might want to know

754
00:39:57,211 --> 00:39:58,379
"you're pretty exposed."

755
00:39:58,462 --> 00:40:01,090
And I was like, "Okay, I'll
go to the gym. Thank you."

756
00:40:02,174 --> 00:40:04,927
Jentorra, we were
looking more at a kind of

757
00:40:05,011 --> 00:40:08,097
growth, bone architecture.

758
00:40:08,180 --> 00:40:10,349
And seeing what we
could do with her armor,

759
00:40:10,433 --> 00:40:14,729
<i>to make it more like she's found
a skeleton of a tiny creature</i>

760
00:40:14,812 --> 00:40:16,147
<i>and used that.</i>

761
00:40:16,230 --> 00:40:21,027
He built his citadel on
the bones of our people.

762
00:40:21,110 --> 00:40:23,821
<i>They were trying
to connect it to the world,</i>

763
00:40:23,946 --> 00:40:28,200
because our people, they're very
much of the world, of the Earth,

764
00:40:28,284 --> 00:40:29,410
of the Quantum Realm.

765
00:40:29,493 --> 00:40:32,413
So, the blue color that we
have kind of meshes in with

766
00:40:32,538 --> 00:40:34,498
<i>things that you might
find in our environment.</i>

767
00:40:35,708 --> 00:40:39,045
Once we added the hair, makeup,
everything, it just clicks.

768
00:40:39,128 --> 00:40:40,814
You know who you are
and who your people are

769
00:40:40,838 --> 00:40:41,839
and where you're going.

770
00:40:49,472 --> 00:40:51,849
<i>Welcome back to the
Quantum Realm, Scott.</i>

771
00:40:52,975 --> 00:40:55,311
<i>I've been waiting a
long time for this.</i>

772
00:40:56,354 --> 00:40:58,356
<i>M.O.D.O.K.
was always a character</i>

773
00:40:58,439 --> 00:41:00,524
<i>that we wanted to
get into the MCU</i>

774
00:41:00,608 --> 00:41:02,068
somehow, somewhere.

775
00:41:02,651 --> 00:41:05,613
A mechanized organism
designed only for killing.

776
00:41:06,822 --> 00:41:08,282
Now I get it. It's an acronym.

777
00:41:10,242 --> 00:41:11,535
Actually, that's M.O.D.O.F.K.

778
00:41:11,660 --> 00:41:15,456
<i>Such an odd design,
a little bit off-putting,</i>

779
00:41:15,623 --> 00:41:17,291
but really great and memorable.

780
00:41:22,129 --> 00:41:25,132
<i>And we thought, like, does
Kang need a henchman in this movie?</i>

781
00:41:25,216 --> 00:41:26,568
<i>And we talked about
all these things.</i>

782
00:41:26,592 --> 00:41:29,053
<i>And M.O.D.O.K., if
there's ever a context</i>

783
00:41:29,178 --> 00:41:31,764
<i>for M.O.D.O.K. to succeed
in live action in the MCU,</i>

784
00:41:31,847 --> 00:41:33,127
<i>it feels like the Quantum Realm.</i>

785
00:41:33,808 --> 00:41:34,975
<i>And it hit me</i>

786
00:41:35,810 --> 00:41:38,813
like the loudest bell I've ever
heard. Like, "Wait a second."

787
00:41:39,522 --> 00:41:44,235
<i>"What if we have Darren
Cross become M.O.D.O.K.?"</i>

788
00:41:44,318 --> 00:41:45,319
<i>Hi, Hank.</i>

789
00:41:48,823 --> 00:41:49,824
Darren?

790
00:41:49,990 --> 00:41:54,495
There we go. All right, we're
set. And three, two, one, action!

791
00:41:57,123 --> 00:42:00,418
{\an8}When we originally shot <i>Ant-Man,</i>
Darren is, like, arrested

792
00:42:00,501 --> 00:42:02,670
{\an8}<i>at the end in his super suit.</i>

793
00:42:02,753 --> 00:42:03,897
<i>And I was like, "Okay, great."</i>

794
00:42:03,921 --> 00:42:05,548
Here we go. And, action!

795
00:42:05,631 --> 00:42:09,218
Then we went back for reshoots
and nobody told me anything.

796
00:42:09,301 --> 00:42:12,638
And I was looking at the sides,
and this is, you know, uh...

797
00:42:13,639 --> 00:42:17,935
Darren becomes like a tiny
little ball of red goo.

798
00:42:19,186 --> 00:42:21,313
<i>I was like, "Oh, can't
really come back from that."</i>

799
00:42:21,397 --> 00:42:23,357
And then there was
another iteration

800
00:42:23,441 --> 00:42:27,945
where he just sort of shrinks
infinitely into a little dot.

801
00:42:30,281 --> 00:42:33,492
And I said, "Okay, that's
survivable in this world."

802
00:42:33,576 --> 00:42:35,637
<i>But clearly he
would have been hurt very bad.</i>

803
00:42:35,661 --> 00:42:37,663
<i>He would've been disfigured
by this accident.</i>

804
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,642
<i>So we started thinking about that,
and we started to think that maybe</i>

805
00:42:40,666 --> 00:42:42,626
<i>there's an origin story
in there for M.O.D.O.K.</i>

806
00:42:42,751 --> 00:42:44,378
<i>That was exciting to us.</i>

807
00:42:44,545 --> 00:42:47,923
And I remember the day
that we called Corey,

808
00:42:48,591 --> 00:42:51,260
because Corey Stoll,
you may not know this,

809
00:42:51,343 --> 00:42:53,762
<i>a massive comics
nerd growing up,</i>

810
00:42:53,846 --> 00:42:57,475
<i>knew who M.O.D.O.K. was, loved the
idea, and really, really embraced it.</i>

811
00:42:58,309 --> 00:42:59,977
I was like, "Yes, I'm in."

812
00:43:00,060 --> 00:43:01,228
Action!

813
00:43:01,896 --> 00:43:04,106
Welcome back to the
Quantum Realm, Scott.

814
00:43:05,149 --> 00:43:08,194
I've been waiting a
long time for this.

815
00:43:08,277 --> 00:43:09,862
Darren?

816
00:43:09,945 --> 00:43:12,031
You're looking at
a man set free.

817
00:43:12,990 --> 00:43:16,869
I've created so much more here
than you could possibly imagine.

818
00:43:16,952 --> 00:43:18,162
And cut it!

819
00:43:18,245 --> 00:43:21,373
That's the fulfillment of a
dream. I didn't know I had.

820
00:43:22,291 --> 00:43:23,709
Nowhere left to run.

821
00:43:23,792 --> 00:43:25,336
I would have never thought

822
00:43:25,419 --> 00:43:28,881
that that's a character that
I'd get to play or want to play.

823
00:43:28,964 --> 00:43:31,342
I'm the
ultimate weapon!

824
00:43:31,967 --> 00:43:35,554
<i>It's just so
ridiculous and so broad.</i>

825
00:43:35,638 --> 00:43:38,682
<i>But, I mean, it all
makes so much sense.</i>

826
00:43:38,807 --> 00:43:40,392
<i>I think the audience
doesn't even know</i>

827
00:43:40,476 --> 00:43:43,020
that they're waiting for this
resolution to my character.

828
00:43:43,229 --> 00:43:44,873
I bet you thought you'd
seen the last of me.

829
00:43:44,897 --> 00:43:46,607
Just now noticing the baby legs.

830
00:43:47,525 --> 00:43:48,692
They're not baby legs.

831
00:43:49,068 --> 00:43:50,194
You think you're so smart.

832
00:43:52,029 --> 00:43:55,199
Scott Lang, the man who
took everything from me.

833
00:43:56,116 --> 00:43:57,743
Who stole my whole life.

834
00:43:57,826 --> 00:44:02,248
<i>And the filming
technique they were using...</i>

835
00:44:02,331 --> 00:44:05,543
<i>It could go one way, It
could be like a real pain,</i>

836
00:44:05,626 --> 00:44:08,629
<i>with dots on your face
and you have this camera</i>

837
00:44:08,796 --> 00:44:10,716
<i>and you don't know what
you're going to look like</i>

838
00:44:10,756 --> 00:44:14,343
<i>and it was so
incredibly satisfying.</i>

839
00:44:14,426 --> 00:44:19,181
It's, in some ways, I feel
like the ideal way to act.

840
00:44:19,265 --> 00:44:22,977
Because you're not waiting
for any technology,

841
00:44:23,060 --> 00:44:26,814
<i>even though the whole performance
is so based on technology.</i>

842
00:44:26,897 --> 00:44:28,649
<i>You're not waiting for
lights, for camera.</i>

843
00:44:28,732 --> 00:44:29,942
<i>You're not waiting for sound.</i>

844
00:44:30,025 --> 00:44:31,944
You're not waiting for
hair and makeup even.

845
00:44:32,987 --> 00:44:37,700
You know, you're just... It was
just me and the rest of the cast

846
00:44:37,783 --> 00:44:39,952
<i>in this open space.</i>

847
00:44:40,035 --> 00:44:42,621
<i>It felt like a really
cool play rehearsal,</i>

848
00:44:42,705 --> 00:44:45,874
{\an8}<i>except that all this
rehearsal is being captured</i>

849
00:44:46,083 --> 00:44:50,004
{\an8}as data that can be turned
into this performance.

850
00:44:51,130 --> 00:44:54,174
You always were a brother to me.

851
00:44:56,635 --> 00:44:57,636
I was?

852
00:45:05,394 --> 00:45:06,729
I was.

853
00:45:06,812 --> 00:45:08,814
And at least I died

854
00:45:10,107 --> 00:45:11,317
an Avenger.

855
00:45:14,862 --> 00:45:15,988
Yeah.

856
00:45:16,947 --> 00:45:18,574
- You did.
- Yeah. No, it's...

857
00:45:18,657 --> 00:45:20,177
You're in.

858
00:45:21,619 --> 00:45:24,246
We really liked
making an <i>Ant-Man</i> film

859
00:45:24,330 --> 00:45:27,916
as important, as integral
to the MCU going forward

860
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,501
<i>as any other film.</i>

861
00:45:30,961 --> 00:45:33,565
I think that's an important
beat. As you step out of that thing

862
00:45:33,589 --> 00:45:35,341
and land here, that
looking to her,

863
00:45:35,424 --> 00:45:38,260
you know, taking your time with
that before you then turn to this...

864
00:45:38,344 --> 00:45:39,720
- I do?
- Yeah.

865
00:45:39,887 --> 00:45:41,698
<i>It's teeing up
Kang in a very big way.</i>

866
00:45:41,722 --> 00:45:46,977
<i>It's teeing up the future of this
very fearsome, very formidable foe</i>

867
00:45:47,061 --> 00:45:48,354
<i>within the MCU.</i>

868
00:45:50,898 --> 00:45:53,942
<i>It's going to help show us
where the MCU is going next.</i>

869
00:45:56,278 --> 00:46:01,367
But I love that we're getting to make
a trilogy out of <i>Ant-Man.</i>

870
00:46:01,825 --> 00:46:02,868
And, shrink!

871
00:46:06,497 --> 00:46:08,666
Yeah, back to one. Let's try
one more right away, guys.

872
00:46:08,749 --> 00:46:09,750
That's great.

873
00:46:10,501 --> 00:46:12,795
<i>The fact that
not only he gets a trilogy,</i>

874
00:46:13,128 --> 00:46:15,128
<i>but that Peyton will have
directed all three films,</i>

875
00:46:15,172 --> 00:46:19,009
<i>that Peyton has seen the trilogy
home is so exciting to me.</i>

876
00:46:20,552 --> 00:46:24,682
<i>I've loved working
with Peyton. I feel lucky</i>

877
00:46:24,765 --> 00:46:27,351
that I've had someone like him

878
00:46:27,434 --> 00:46:30,437
to kind of guide me.

879
00:46:36,944 --> 00:46:39,029
Shockwave that comes
out

880
00:46:39,113 --> 00:46:41,407
and just take you
out of frame there.

881
00:46:41,490 --> 00:46:44,410
We'll do a separate shot of a second
thing which is like...

882
00:46:44,493 --> 00:46:46,286
Coming from that port.

883
00:46:47,162 --> 00:46:50,582
<i>To be able to do
the kind of superhero action</i>

884
00:46:50,666 --> 00:46:53,043
<i>and the heart and the humor...</i>

885
00:46:53,669 --> 00:46:55,003
<i>He just gets it.</i>

886
00:46:55,087 --> 00:46:57,631
{\an8}This is, uh, a day
one of, uh, <i>Ant-Man.</i>

887
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,279
I want to thank you
all for being here.

888
00:47:03,303 --> 00:47:06,014
I'm so psyched about this movie.
We're going to have a great shoot.

889
00:47:06,098 --> 00:47:08,726
I know a lot of you have been
waiting a very long time to shoot.

890
00:47:08,851 --> 00:47:10,269
And today's the
day. Let's do it.

891
00:47:10,394 --> 00:47:11,895
- Thank you so much.
- Yeah!

892
00:47:16,734 --> 00:47:18,736
<i>I grew up with</i>
Superman: The Movie

893
00:47:18,819 --> 00:47:21,280
and <i>Star Wars</i> and <i>Raiders</i>
and all those things.

894
00:47:21,363 --> 00:47:23,866
<i>And I'd always wanted
to do a movie like that.</i>

895
00:47:23,949 --> 00:47:25,909
<i>So, for me, it was
really gratifying</i>

896
00:47:25,993 --> 00:47:29,747
<i>because we were able to just
paint on this really large canvas.</i>

897
00:47:29,830 --> 00:47:31,665
- Okay.
- Boom! So you know what to do.

898
00:47:31,749 --> 00:47:34,418
<i>Scott Lang has been
really important in my life,</i>

899
00:47:34,501 --> 00:47:37,421
and it really has been an
amazing group of people

900
00:47:37,504 --> 00:47:40,466
<i>I've gotten to spend a
good chunk of time with.</i>

901
00:47:40,549 --> 00:47:44,011
<i>Even in</i> Civil War, <i>I think I had
that scene where we're on the tarmac</i>

902
00:47:44,094 --> 00:47:46,847
<i>and I'm meeting Captain
America for the first time,</i>

903
00:47:46,930 --> 00:47:48,390
<i>and some of the other Avengers.</i>

904
00:47:48,474 --> 00:47:49,850
<i>The whole thing was surreal,</i>

905
00:47:49,933 --> 00:47:52,245
<i>and I felt a little bit like the
character that I was playing.</i>

906
00:47:52,269 --> 00:47:53,604
I still feel that.

907
00:47:53,687 --> 00:47:56,148
<i>I can't believe I'm,
I'm on this team.</i>

908
00:47:56,732 --> 00:47:58,442
<i>I've treasured
it. I really have.</i>

909
00:48:06,950 --> 00:48:08,952
{\an8}I know before we ever
started shooting this thing,

910
00:48:09,036 --> 00:48:10,913
{\an8}I'd tell people, you
know, I'm going to...

911
00:48:10,996 --> 00:48:12,790
"What are you working
on?" I'd say, <i>"Ant-Man"</i>

912
00:48:12,956 --> 00:48:14,333
<i>"Ant-Man?</i> What's <i>Ant-Man?"</i>

913
00:48:14,458 --> 00:48:16,251
"It's a Marvel movie."

914
00:48:17,294 --> 00:48:20,547
<i>"Ant-Man?"</i> Because not many
people know the character.

915
00:48:20,631 --> 00:48:23,258
And they'd say, "What
are your powers?"

916
00:48:23,342 --> 00:48:24,885
I'd say, "Well, I can shrink."

917
00:48:25,594 --> 00:48:27,179
They'd say, "Okay."

918
00:48:27,262 --> 00:48:30,057
"But I can also talk to ants."

