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I think there is at least twice as much
than what was in the past,

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and, as we expected,
there is a new militancy

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in the gay movement
here today.

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To each their own.

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I have no prejudice,

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but when they come and move
with normal people,

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It's different.

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I'm surprised to see
so many women in the parade.

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After all, we already recognize
men, more or less.

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But seeing the women there

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there must be a lot
that we don't know.

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I have two beautiful children,
both boys,

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aged seven and nine.

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If they turn gay,
I will love them

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as much as I love them now.

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I think they're crazy.

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We have to fight
for what is right on Earth.

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And we are here, we want
help homosexuals live

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on the right path, on the way
which Christ commands, the way of the Bible.

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We have compassion,
We understand they have a problem.

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But we want them to be
cured,

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we don't want
let them live in sin.

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Gays are learning
who are oppressed doesn't matter

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what they work on
or their roles are in society.

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That as long as there are laws
against gays,

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They are against all gays.

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We represent the Pr�-Vida Group,

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We are against abortion.

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The group supported Anita Bryant,
so I agree.

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I'm against gay rights.

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As far as you can see,
this has been going on for a long time.

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But we noticed this year.

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No more gay country for us,
never again.

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The act discriminates
men in certain jobs.

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Just like a straight man
who can molest a child

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will be discriminated against
when taking care of my children.

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Gays rape children.

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Gays are at the port
picking up kids all the time.

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They need more than assuming
on gay pride day.

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This is a sign of gay power.

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We can very
if we unite.

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We have to do it more often.

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I think it's disgusting.

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If they want
live like this, it's okay,

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but why make me watch?

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How to gain rights

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It is through demonstrations,
and this is

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the best way to demonstrate.

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I'm 70 years old
and in my childhood

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I had never seen this.

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And thank God, I don't have
children this age

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that force me
seeing something like this.

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The reason we stay in the Church

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to protest against
anti-gay policies

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of the Archdiocese of New York.

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Gifts in defeat
of gay rights.

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We respect human rights,
but homosexuality

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It is condemned by Christ.

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It is an unnatural way of life.

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God loves the sinner,

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but hates
homosexuality.

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It's a disease and we believe
that there is also a divine position.

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Christ and religion exist.

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And if all the people,
of all ages,

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heterosexual or not,
know what God wants

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and how we should live.

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But they don't learn
in schools.

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Gay rights now!

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Gay rights now!

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Gay rights now!

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Do you mind talking?

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No, I came just because it was interesting,
human interest.

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I am supportive
with the gay movement.

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And that's all.

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It's fine.

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Interesting people.

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Are you having fun?

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Of course.

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Are you angry than
Has this happened to gays?

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Anger?

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Yes, anger.

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But I don't usually talk about it,
I would say.

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Now you have an opportunity.

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Are you gay?

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No.

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Is there any
curious about the subject?

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Yes, naturally.

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Do you think most people do?

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I think most people do.

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I have many gay friends.

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I think when any
group of people is oppressed,

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all people are oppressed.

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If any group loses its rights,
we all lost our rights.

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Now, as you can see
on the poster, I'm not gay

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and no one in my family is.

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But still,
It is a group that has every right

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to have your opinion,
your belief,

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their private lives
just like anyone else.

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And I'm very sure of that.

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Furthermore, I was touched
for the disgusting campaign

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that this woman
drove in Florida.

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She was with everyone
the disgusting ultra-right

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and the biggest freaks in the world there,

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and it was very retrograde
and reactionary.

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So, of course, just like
many people from San Francisco,

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I was very shocked
with the murder of that young man.

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That's why I came.

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I believe in human rights.

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Every mother has a child.

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She doesn't know
if the child

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will be homosexual
or heterosexual.

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She must never
repudiate this child.

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She must love her
since when did she give birth

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until the moment she,
or the child dies.

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And none of us
we can choose.

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We have grown to a certain stage
and someone,

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somewhere in our genes
there is something that decides

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even before our birth
what we will be.

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But I would say that just like God
decide if you will

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be a boy
or a girl, He decides

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if we will be
homosexuals or heterosexuals.

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We want to have rights.

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We'll make it.
I'm not going back to the closet.

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You know, it's like
the suicide.

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In truth.

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Does it kill you?

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Yes, it kills me.

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But it won't happen.

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We're going to get married and I don't know

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if I should
get married now.

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-Yes.
-Really?

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Has your life changed today?

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It changed my life.

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I don't know if I should get married

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because I don't know if I will have rights.

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And the reason why I believe
that whenever there is

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an attack on any
group in society,

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We must all be supportive.

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And it's a human rights issue,
not gay rights.

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And I feel that the environment
in our country today

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is retreating.

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There have been attacks, not just
to gays, but to women's rights,

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about abortion.

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This new legislation
with the Supreme Court

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in which poor women do not have
access to abortion

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while rich women do.

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Support gay friends
and everyone we know

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who are gay, who we personally
we share spaces in life

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and they are no different
of ourselves

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and they have the right
to equal rights.

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Are you lesbian?

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Yes.

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Would you rather have a child

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boy or girl?

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A girl.

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What would you think
if she was a lesbian?

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All good.

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It would be ok.

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How would you feel about
be here today with her?

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I feel really good about it.

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I would love her here.

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It's good energy
and she would be loving it.

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I'm here because I support
civil rights for all.

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I think this is something
that this country has struggled

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a long time ago,
and why do we miss it

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right now?

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Why did you come here today?

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For human rights.

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Are you lesbian?

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No.

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Are you lesbian?

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No.

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Why did you bring them?

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I believe in human rights.

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Do you know what they are about?
gay rights?

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No.

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Are you having fun here?

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Yes.

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Yes, walking around
You notice that there is...

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The proportion of men
for women,

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should be 20 to 1,
or 20 to 3, something like that,

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there are many more men around.

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And that's peculiar,
but that's ok.

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-Where are you from?
-Los Angeles, California.

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Are you gay?

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I'm not gay, I'm here
to see the protest

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and how gays act.

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What do you think
of the parade so far?

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I think it's a success.

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It will have a big impact
in the country.

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But in the wrong direction.

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Why does this happen?

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Because, for me,
these people are going

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in the wrong direction,
because they are not...

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they are not healthy.

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But I don't know
What do you mean by that?

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When sexual hormones
balance correctly,

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you are not gay.

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If your hormones
are balanced,

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you don't have
this type of development.

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But what does this
has to do

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with gay civil rights...

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That I admire.

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...where they want...

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They can do whatever they want
but understand

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that this is a genetic process
which is growing across the country

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and it is not a healthy process.

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Freedom, yes,
but being healthy is another thing.

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But if everyone is not free it means
that no one is, in a certain way,

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isn't it like that?

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I agree.
The concept is good.

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Rona Barrett made it very clear,

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they are entitled to a date.

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But if the country goes that way,
It will be a sad day.

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Gays don't want
that the country goes this way,

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they just want to be
themselves and...

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have rights like everyone else.

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I agree on one aspect.

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This has already been said.

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We are not saying
for everyone to become gay.

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Me neither.

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I'm here to observe and I say:
It's bad fashion for the country.

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We have rights.

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This is freedom
of the constitution.

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I agree with this 100%.

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Yes, I like it a lot
of the parade.

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There was a lot of space,

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and it didn't seem
that everyone was crowded together.

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I saw different types of people

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and there were all kinds of people:

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teachers,
nurses, and all kinds,

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which made me very proud.

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Yes, they stood up to say,

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what I believe,

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that you have to
come out of the closet.

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And you have to get up and fight,

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because they want to kill you
one way or another.

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And this way is much better
than the other,

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where are we just
hiding us

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and we don't know
who is an ally.

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So you know
who supports you,

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and who doesn't.

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But at least friends
are right there.

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I like that.

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I feel great
with the parade.

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In all the years I've been

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since the first birthday in NY,

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this one has
a wonderful balance

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between a certain seriousness,
but there is fun too.

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People are having fun.

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I came from Florida,
and I want to find out

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how much do people in California
they like orange juice.

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And of course...

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No sound.

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The poster says that, doesn't it?

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She's excited
to be here?

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I am.

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I was crying.

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I just stayed
very happy

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when you see how many people

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they were courageous and were not afraid
due to the immense amount

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of repressive things
that are publicizing in the media,

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and the headlines
that make people

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feel helpless.

265
00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,478
I'll say one thing,
If there is a balance here today,

266
00:11:32,540 --> 00:11:35,548
you can be sure that
the media will jump on it

267
00:11:35,610 --> 00:11:38,208
and enjoy it,
because it's amazing

268
00:11:38,270 --> 00:11:40,478
and that's what people
you'll want to see it.

269
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It will be on channel 2
and on channel 5,

270
00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,538
on channel 7,
and on channel 11.

271
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I speak for all children

272
00:11:46,180 --> 00:11:49,998
in the United States
and even my brother.

273
00:11:50,060 --> 00:11:52,728
We believe
equal rights for children.

274
00:11:52,790 --> 00:11:53,429
Very good.

275
00:11:53,491 --> 00:11:55,251
I think it should
have law too.

276
00:13:56,860 --> 00:13:58,338
I live in the countryside.

277
00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,108
But when I saw
the headlines

278
00:14:00,170 --> 00:14:02,008
in the newspaper,
I couldn't stay there.

279
00:14:02,070 --> 00:14:03,028
I had to come.

280
00:14:03,090 --> 00:14:04,608
This really scared me.

281
00:14:04,670 --> 00:14:05,698
I spoke to my mother.

282
00:14:05,707 --> 00:14:07,228
I asked if
voted in Miami,

283
00:14:07,290 --> 00:14:09,088
She said she didn't know.

284
00:14:09,150 --> 00:14:11,728
She doesn't like that my sister
sit on my lap.

285
00:14:11,790 --> 00:14:12,459
This irritates.

286
00:14:12,521 --> 00:14:14,668
I thought about stealing
your agenda with everyone

287
00:14:14,730 --> 00:14:17,138
the names of relatives
and friends

288
00:14:17,147 --> 00:14:19,087
and send cards:
"You know a gay man."

289
00:14:19,100 --> 00:14:20,687
When you hear a joke.

290
00:14:20,700 --> 00:14:25,228
They could stop me from seeing my
brothers and sisters, and tried in the past.

291
00:14:25,290 --> 00:14:26,968
Coming out of the closet everywhere.

292
00:14:27,030 --> 00:14:28,328
Work, home, everything.

293
00:14:28,390 --> 00:14:30,998
And it's the best feeling
that I've ever had in my life.

294
00:14:31,060 --> 00:14:32,968
By marching for gay rights,

295
00:14:33,030 --> 00:14:37,058
I see a strong connection between
third world oppression

296
00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,348
and the oppression of gays and the poor
in this country.

297
00:14:40,410 --> 00:14:42,588
I think we feel
the same thing.

298
00:14:42,650 --> 00:14:44,668
We're just watching.

299
00:14:44,730 --> 00:14:45,968
Will you march with them?

300
00:14:46,030 --> 00:14:47,868
No, I won't.

301
00:14:47,930 --> 00:14:50,458
Sorry.

302
00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,138
Monitoring is maintaining
people marching,

303
00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:55,468
we take care of the sides.

304
00:14:55,530 --> 00:14:59,758
Yes, we do all the funneling
right on Market Street.

305
00:14:59,820 --> 00:15:01,008
Just observing.

306
00:15:01,070 --> 00:15:03,488
I'm fighting
for my rights.

307
00:15:03,550 --> 00:15:04,688
I think it's beautiful.

308
00:15:04,750 --> 00:15:06,198
It's wonderful.

309
00:15:06,260 --> 00:15:08,278
There are heterosexual people,
children,

310
00:15:08,340 --> 00:15:10,758
families,
and we have a wonderful show

311
00:15:10,820 --> 00:15:12,308
of union
of the gay community.

312
00:15:12,370 --> 00:15:13,908
What are you doing
in summer,

313
00:15:13,970 --> 00:15:15,728
in San Francisco?

314
00:15:15,790 --> 00:15:17,528
There is no time
like the present

315
00:15:17,537 --> 00:15:19,238
to fight for human rights.

316
00:15:19,300 --> 00:15:21,538
Santa Claus for human rights?

317
00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,928
Santa Claus and children
for children's rights.

318
00:15:24,990 --> 00:15:27,158
And I think
the movement in the country

319
00:15:27,220 --> 00:15:29,818
to repress
children's sexuality

320
00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:34,298
I think this
must be fought.

321
00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,538
For this Christmas,
what do you want

322
00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:41,668
for children
of the world?

323
00:15:41,730 --> 00:15:43,908
Tolerance, and all that stuff.

324
00:15:43,970 --> 00:15:45,188
Thank you, Santa Claus.

325
00:15:45,250 --> 00:15:46,998
You're welcome.
Merry Christmas.

326
00:15:47,060 --> 00:15:49,728
Then I will be
gay consciousness

327
00:15:49,790 --> 00:15:51,468
of everyone in San Francisco today.

328
00:15:51,530 --> 00:15:52,778
Be the perfect idiot.

329
00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,138
The Parsifal.

330
00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:58,158
The resurrected prince, so that
have freedom when the day passes.

331
00:15:58,220 --> 00:15:59,448
Now the women

332
00:15:59,510 --> 00:16:01,688
and motorcycles
will start

333
00:16:01,750 --> 00:16:03,318
in front of women.

334
00:16:03,380 --> 00:16:04,688
There are two motorcycle clubs.

335
00:16:04,750 --> 00:16:07,838
Motorcycle Shoes
of the East Bay and the city

336
00:16:07,900 --> 00:16:10,680
they are both here
and we will lead the parade.

337
00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,378
I grew up in a small town
in northwestern Canada.

338
00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,728
And because of this place

339
00:18:18,790 --> 00:18:21,728
it was impossible to be gay and be happy.

340
00:18:21,790 --> 00:18:24,968
So I got married
and I had a family.

341
00:18:25,030 --> 00:18:26,648
And he was moderately happy.

342
00:18:26,710 --> 00:18:29,858
Nothing to excite me
for 15 and a half years.

343
00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,188
Did you have gay friends?

344
00:18:32,250 --> 00:18:33,888
I had it, but I didn't know it.

345
00:18:33,950 --> 00:18:34,859
Any lovers?

346
00:18:34,921 --> 00:18:37,818
No, only after I came out.

347
00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,998
And that was in 75.

348
00:18:40,060 --> 00:18:42,408
What led you to take over?

349
00:18:42,470 --> 00:18:45,208
I met a woman
and I talked to her

350
00:18:45,270 --> 00:18:48,068
and I was able to,
for the first time in my life,

351
00:18:48,130 --> 00:18:51,778
express my feelings
without them laughing

352
00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,808
or looked at me evilly.

353
00:18:53,870 --> 00:18:54,669
And I...

354
00:18:54,731 --> 00:18:55,948
Was he still in Kansas?

355
00:18:56,010 --> 00:18:59,108
No, it was in Alabama.
In Army Reserve training.

356
00:18:59,170 --> 00:19:00,568
Wow.

357
00:19:00,630 --> 00:19:04,698
And I have too
a brother who is gay.

358
00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,208
And that helped a lot because
I was able to talk to him.

359
00:19:08,270 --> 00:19:09,898
And I decided I couldn't

360
00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,748
stay sad
my whole life, so I came out.

361
00:19:12,810 --> 00:19:16,158
What made you
sadder?

362
00:19:16,220 --> 00:19:19,228
I think the lack
of total love.

363
00:19:19,290 --> 00:19:22,998
I loved my husband,
but I wasn't in love with him.

364
00:19:23,060 --> 00:19:27,038
And I don't think I've ever been
in love until I met her.

365
00:19:27,100 --> 00:19:29,658
When did you meet Charlotte?

366
00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,148
In 1975, in the same
year I came out.

367
00:19:32,210 --> 00:19:33,388
A few months later.

368
00:19:33,450 --> 00:19:35,478
And we are together
since then.

369
00:19:35,540 --> 00:19:36,179
Some time ago.

370
00:19:36,241 --> 00:19:37,888
How did you meet?

371
00:19:37,950 --> 00:19:40,578
At a bar in Wichita.

372
00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:41,418
In Wichita?

373
00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:42,419
Yes.

374
00:19:42,481 --> 00:19:45,218
I left the city I grew up in
and left my husband

375
00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,088
and moved to Wichita.

376
00:19:47,150 --> 00:19:50,338
How was it
being gay in Wichita?

377
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,558
More freedom than in Kansas,

378
00:19:52,620 --> 00:19:54,508
but still very repressed.

379
00:19:54,570 --> 00:19:55,439
It doesn't seem like it.

380
00:19:55,501 --> 00:19:56,968
No, it wasn't much.

381
00:19:57,030 --> 00:19:59,558
What if your boss
found out you were gay,

382
00:19:59,620 --> 00:20:00,848
lost his job.

383
00:20:00,910 --> 00:20:02,578
You lost your
for being gay?

384
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,748
Yes, I lost several
jobs for being gay.

385
00:20:04,810 --> 00:20:05,878
She lost jobs.

386
00:20:05,887 --> 00:20:07,028
I'll ask again.

387
00:20:07,090 --> 00:20:08,838
Already lost
the job because I'm gay?

388
00:20:08,900 --> 00:20:10,988
Yes, I lost several.

389
00:20:11,050 --> 00:20:13,728
If they don't come
and straight up say, "You're gay

390
00:20:13,790 --> 00:20:16,688
and we don't want you", they
They ask if I'm gay

391
00:20:16,750 --> 00:20:18,408
and I said yes
and they just

392
00:20:18,470 --> 00:20:20,438
made the work
unbearable

393
00:20:20,500 --> 00:20:21,718
for me to give up.

394
00:20:21,780 --> 00:20:22,418
How horrible.

395
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:23,329
Yes.

396
00:20:23,391 --> 00:20:27,088
And we decided that
we had to have more freedom

397
00:20:27,150 --> 00:20:30,618
to be ourselves
and we came to San Francisco.

398
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,958
They came together
to San Francisco?

399
00:20:33,020 --> 00:20:35,328
We sell everything
what we possess,

400
00:20:35,390 --> 00:20:40,088
we arrived with $18 in our
pocket and two suitcases.

401
00:20:40,150 --> 00:20:41,059
It's a lot of courage.

402
00:20:41,121 --> 00:20:42,258
Yes, it really was.

403
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:43,059
Are you gay?

404
00:20:43,121 --> 00:20:44,998
Of course.

405
00:20:45,060 --> 00:20:47,278
Depends on what you mean by gay.

406
00:20:47,340 --> 00:20:48,028
What's up?

407
00:20:48,090 --> 00:20:48,838
Are you gay?

408
00:20:48,900 --> 00:20:49,598
No.

409
00:20:49,660 --> 00:20:50,299
I don't know.

410
00:20:50,361 --> 00:20:52,448
I don't think I can
classify me.

411
00:20:52,510 --> 00:20:54,528
That's none of your business.

412
00:20:54,537 --> 00:20:56,358
Everyone is gay,
I'm heterosexual.

413
00:20:56,420 --> 00:20:57,458
In the same body.

414
00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,038
They are all men
and women in the same body.

415
00:21:00,100 --> 00:21:01,288
Am I gay?

416
00:21:01,350 --> 00:21:03,178
What do you mean
with the word gay?

417
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:04,478
What's in your head.

418
00:21:04,540 --> 00:21:05,728
Are you gay?

419
00:21:05,790 --> 00:21:06,648
Yes, I am.

420
00:21:06,710 --> 00:21:07,579
Are you gay?

421
00:21:07,641 --> 00:21:08,618
Yes.

422
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:09,318
Are you gay?

423
00:21:09,380 --> 00:21:10,018
Yes.

424
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:10,839
Are you gay?

425
00:21:10,901 --> 00:21:12,728
Yes, I am.

426
00:21:12,790 --> 00:21:13,428
You?

427
00:21:13,490 --> 00:21:14,128
Yes.

428
00:21:14,190 --> 00:21:14,828
Are you gay?

429
00:21:14,890 --> 00:21:15,528
Yes.

430
00:21:15,590 --> 00:21:16,229
Are you gay?

431
00:21:16,291 --> 00:21:17,958
Are you having fun?

432
00:21:18,020 --> 00:21:18,658
Are you gay?

433
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:19,648
Yes.

434
00:21:19,710 --> 00:21:20,559
Having fun?

435
00:21:20,621 --> 00:21:21,718
Without a doubt.

436
00:21:21,780 --> 00:21:23,488
You bet.

437
00:21:23,550 --> 00:21:25,198
Are you gay?

438
00:21:25,260 --> 00:21:27,658
Why not?

439
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:28,438
Are you gay?

440
00:21:28,500 --> 00:21:29,138
Yes.

441
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,128
Are you gay?

442
00:21:30,190 --> 00:21:31,119
Are you gay?

443
00:21:31,127 --> 00:21:32,488
I'm definitely gay.

444
00:21:32,550 --> 00:21:33,179
He is sure?

445
00:21:33,241 --> 00:21:35,648
I'm sure, I'm sure.

446
00:21:35,710 --> 00:21:37,138
Yes, I am.

447
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:38,119
Yes.

448
00:21:38,181 --> 00:21:39,608
Yes.

449
00:21:39,670 --> 00:21:40,978
Of course.

450
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,978
I consider myself
a bisexual person.

451
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,178
I am sexually affected
by men and women.

452
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,778
And I think I'm politically

453
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,418
compromised
with men and women.

454
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:54,178
Yes, I am.

455
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:54,869
Forever?

456
00:21:54,931 --> 00:21:56,808
Yes, forever.

457
00:21:56,870 --> 00:21:59,338
Well I'm very persuasive

458
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,218
and I don't think
popular myths should

459
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,908
be limited to one
particular point of view.

460
00:22:04,970 --> 00:22:06,338
Yes.

461
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:07,768
Yes.

462
00:22:07,830 --> 00:22:09,188
Yes, yes.

463
00:22:09,250 --> 00:22:10,618
Of course.

464
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,048
No.

465
00:22:12,110 --> 00:22:14,428
Are you sure?

466
00:22:14,490 --> 00:22:15,219
Yes.

467
00:22:15,281 --> 00:22:17,378
I am.

468
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:18,128
No.

469
00:22:18,190 --> 00:22:18,829
No.

470
00:22:18,891 --> 00:22:21,768
I could be, but I wasn't
an experience.

471
00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:24,798
I can't restrict myself
to just be gay.

472
00:22:24,860 --> 00:22:27,258
I'm not heterosexual either.

473
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,038
And I'm not really bi.

474
00:22:29,100 --> 00:22:31,078
I consider myself pansexual.

475
00:22:31,140 --> 00:22:31,898
Yes, I am.

476
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,248
Today I am more than gay.
Today I am in joy.

477
00:22:35,310 --> 00:22:36,229
Really.

478
00:22:36,291 --> 00:22:39,328
Yes, I have been homosexual
as far as I remember,

479
00:22:39,390 --> 00:22:44,578
that's a long way
because I'm almost 60 years old.

480
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,268
Have you been in San Francisco for a long time?

481
00:22:46,330 --> 00:22:51,028
Yes, I'm in San Francisco
since the Second World War.

482
00:22:51,090 --> 00:22:55,218
Something in particular
attracted you to this city?

483
00:22:55,227 --> 00:22:57,537
San Francisco
It has always been an open city

484
00:22:57,550 --> 00:23:01,808
to everyone who arrives,
This is the last frontier.

485
00:23:01,870 --> 00:23:03,508
And when I came out
to the Army,

486
00:23:03,570 --> 00:23:05,988
I decided it's here
where I belong.

487
00:23:06,050 --> 00:23:07,738
And I never regretted it.

488
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,778
It's a good place
for a gay person

489
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,908
and it's a good place
for everyone.

490
00:23:11,970 --> 00:23:14,648
What do you think about
What happens back there?

491
00:23:14,710 --> 00:23:15,888
I think it's wonderful.

492
00:23:15,950 --> 00:23:22,818
I think this is a show
of individuality and power

493
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,628
of the people we see
in other minority movements

494
00:23:26,690 --> 00:23:29,458
in the 50s and 60s.

495
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,458
And it's time now
for gays.

496
00:23:31,467 --> 00:23:34,227
How is this parade?
compared to the previous ones?

497
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,418
The parades have changed
over the years

498
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,598
like gay consciousness
changed.

499
00:23:40,660 --> 00:23:44,898
Parades came first
as a birthday celebration

500
00:23:44,907 --> 00:23:46,957
or a statement of celebration after

501
00:23:46,970 --> 00:23:49,418
the Stonewall demonstrations in NY

502
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,938
in 1969.

503
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,818
At that time, the police had
attacked several bars,

504
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,688
as they always attacked,
gay bars over the years.

505
00:23:59,750 --> 00:24:03,508
And suddenly there
were they fighting against

506
00:24:03,570 --> 00:24:05,328
what happened
with group of people

507
00:24:05,390 --> 00:24:09,228
who were at the bar
in Greenwich Village.

508
00:24:09,290 --> 00:24:12,478
The people who fought
were not organized,

509
00:24:12,540 --> 00:24:14,668
They were not leaders
from the gay community,

510
00:24:14,730 --> 00:24:16,728
they were just people from the bar.

511
00:24:16,790 --> 00:24:20,518
And many of them represented
the poorest people

512
00:24:20,580 --> 00:24:25,738
of gay life in New York. drag queens,
young people from the streets, the bar staff.

513
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,838
And because they fought
and because other people

514
00:24:28,900 --> 00:24:31,658
joined them,
the movement emerged.

515
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,568
A movement not to
we tolerate things more

516
00:24:34,630 --> 00:24:37,538
that we have been subjected
for many years.

517
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,378
And at that time,
became of national importance

518
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,868
recognize this event

519
00:24:44,930 --> 00:24:50,208
like some kind of annual parade.

520
00:24:50,270 --> 00:24:55,858
The first parades were
aimed at the liberation of gays.

521
00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:00,038
They were intended for the idea
to come out of the closet and into the street.

522
00:25:00,100 --> 00:25:03,038
And many people
joined the cause

523
00:25:03,100 --> 00:25:06,118
in a species
on a spontaneous personal basis.

524
00:25:06,180 --> 00:25:10,198
People gathered,
individuals, couples,

525
00:25:10,260 --> 00:25:12,798
people who wanted to come out.

526
00:25:12,860 --> 00:25:14,942
And so, participate in the parade

527
00:25:14,966 --> 00:25:17,048
became a way of
assume for many people.

528
00:25:17,110 --> 00:25:19,278
There were also organizations.

529
00:25:19,340 --> 00:25:21,388
The oldest
gay organizations

530
00:25:21,450 --> 00:25:22,928
marched in parades.

531
00:25:22,990 --> 00:25:24,588
Other gears?

532
00:25:24,650 --> 00:25:25,948
Yes.

533
00:25:26,010 --> 00:25:29,538
The first march
I remember participating

534
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,198
was the Mattachine Society.

535
00:25:31,260 --> 00:25:33,868
There were only four
women at that time.

536
00:25:33,930 --> 00:25:35,438
Four women? Wow!

537
00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:37,348
And the stipulations
for the march

538
00:25:37,410 --> 00:25:39,878
was that we shouldn't
look gay.

539
00:25:39,940 --> 00:25:42,778
Men should
wear suits

540
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,538
and women,
dresses and heels.

541
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,358
What was the spectators' reaction?
to this march?

542
00:25:47,420 --> 00:25:50,418
It was a mix
of hostility and indifference.

543
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,298
As the years passed,
have become

544
00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:57,118
celebrations, carnivals.

545
00:25:57,180 --> 00:26:02,128
So, in 1972 or 1973,
political statements

546
00:26:02,190 --> 00:26:04,298
started to be
less evident and there

547
00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:08,438
started to have more of a sense of,
We've already come out.

548
00:26:08,500 --> 00:26:12,928
We will not be invisible,
We will not be silent,

549
00:26:12,990 --> 00:26:15,550
and let's celebrate
that we assume.

550
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,668
We are here, on a Sunday
and it's just a parade for children to see

551
00:27:52,730 --> 00:27:55,078
more than anything,
to be quite honest.

552
00:27:55,140 --> 00:27:56,628
Can I ask something?

553
00:27:56,690 --> 00:27:58,658
If one of your children
talk to you one day

554
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,148
aged 15 or 16:
"Mom, I'm gay."

555
00:28:02,210 --> 00:28:03,488
What would you say to them?

556
00:28:03,550 --> 00:28:08,128
Honestly, it's a question
difficult to answer.

557
00:28:08,137 --> 00:28:10,558
It's as difficult as
if one of my daughters

558
00:28:10,620 --> 00:28:13,098
said, "Mom, I'm pregnant,"
at 15 or 16 years old.

559
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,528
I really don't know
what would I say.

560
00:28:16,537 --> 00:28:17,957
How do you feel
about gays?

561
00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:18,628
Are you...

562
00:28:18,690 --> 00:28:19,319
They are people.

563
00:28:19,381 --> 00:28:21,118
They are human, just like me.

564
00:28:21,180 --> 00:28:23,278
Do you know anyone gay?
Do you have friends?

565
00:28:23,340 --> 00:28:25,018
Yes, we stayed
with a guy yesterday,

566
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,238
we just arrived, 2 days ago
and as soon as we arrived

567
00:28:28,300 --> 00:28:30,438
he offered us
a place to stay.

568
00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:31,828
He took us out for coffee.

569
00:28:31,890 --> 00:28:32,599
It was great.

570
00:28:32,661 --> 00:28:34,108
Was he nice?

571
00:28:34,170 --> 00:28:36,958
Yes, he didn't try
force anything between us.

572
00:28:37,020 --> 00:28:38,328
That's his thing, beautiful.

573
00:28:38,390 --> 00:28:41,278
I've been to the penitentiary,
I know what this is about.

574
00:28:41,340 --> 00:28:44,218
Sometimes it's forced,
but most of the time it isn't.

575
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:45,818
People are people.

576
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:46,679
Where are you from?

577
00:28:46,741 --> 00:28:48,698
I'm from Denver, Colorado.

578
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,328
How are things there?
with gays?

579
00:28:51,390 --> 00:28:53,858
They are more hypocritical there.

580
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,838
They are harassed all the time,
which is not right.

581
00:28:56,900 --> 00:28:59,528
I saw a guy from work.
I see him every day

582
00:28:59,590 --> 00:29:01,388
Now I understand what his problem is.

583
00:29:01,450 --> 00:29:02,918
He is also gay.

584
00:29:02,980 --> 00:29:05,010
I am really happy.

585
00:29:24,050 --> 00:29:26,418
You never went to bed
with men?

586
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:27,119
No.

587
00:29:27,181 --> 00:29:28,748
You live in the city

588
00:29:28,810 --> 00:29:29,568
long ago?

589
00:29:29,630 --> 00:29:30,269
Yes.

590
00:29:30,331 --> 00:29:32,358
You never
Have you been approached by men?

591
00:29:32,420 --> 00:29:33,498
Of course, definitely.

592
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,488
What do you tell them?

593
00:29:35,550 --> 00:29:38,038
I'm not
ready for that yet.

594
00:29:38,100 --> 00:29:40,258
27 years and still not ready?

595
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,128
No, I'm not ready yet.

596
00:29:42,190 --> 00:29:45,280
But I don't have
nothing against that.

597
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,698
Get rid of this nuisance.

598
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:17,398
You know.

599
00:30:17,460 --> 00:30:18,129
What inconvenience?

600
00:30:18,191 --> 00:30:20,548
To hide from your parents,
of your family,

601
00:30:20,610 --> 00:30:21,728
of your friends.

602
00:30:21,790 --> 00:30:22,619
These things.

603
00:30:22,681 --> 00:30:26,138
I think we all should
start with: "Yes, I'm gay, so what?"

604
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:26,839
You know.

605
00:30:26,901 --> 00:30:28,728
And you have been able
to do this?

606
00:30:28,790 --> 00:30:29,429
For your life?

607
00:30:29,491 --> 00:30:30,918
Yes, almost always.

608
00:30:30,980 --> 00:30:33,470
I slip eventually,
we all do it.

609
00:31:05,630 --> 00:31:08,038
We are your children!

610
00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:09,570
We are your children!

611
00:31:18,500 --> 00:31:19,938
I get angry when I see gays

612
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,908
not getting together
and hiding.

613
00:31:22,970 --> 00:31:24,128
Fighting each other

614
00:31:24,190 --> 00:31:25,129
when organizing.

615
00:31:25,191 --> 00:31:27,279
-Do you think it's happening today?
-No.

616
00:31:27,341 --> 00:31:30,298
I think this
cause a lot of solidarity

617
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,568
with gays.

618
00:31:31,630 --> 00:31:34,068
And it will help
many heterosexual people

619
00:31:34,130 --> 00:31:37,078
to see that not everyone is closeted,
and we are here.

620
00:31:37,140 --> 00:31:38,468
We are part of the community

621
00:31:38,530 --> 00:31:39,898
in all aspects.

622
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,398
We can't just wait

623
00:31:41,460 --> 00:31:42,658
that they accept us.

624
00:31:42,667 --> 00:31:44,367
We make it clear that we are here.

625
00:31:44,380 --> 00:31:46,248
And we are not going to change.

626
00:31:46,310 --> 00:31:48,728
How long ago did you come out?

627
00:31:48,790 --> 00:31:50,728
A few years ago.

628
00:31:50,790 --> 00:31:55,458
At 33, finally,
I met an old friend

629
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,168
and spent time with her
and didn't understand what it was

630
00:31:58,230 --> 00:31:59,788
these new feelings.

631
00:31:59,850 --> 00:32:01,558
Suddenly he said:
"My God,

632
00:32:01,620 --> 00:32:04,298
I think I'm attracted
sexually for her."

633
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,558
So I thought
how I felt about it.

634
00:32:06,620 --> 00:32:08,138
I thought for a while and concluded.

635
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,798
I feel fantastic like this.

636
00:32:09,860 --> 00:32:11,128
I think I'll try.

637
00:32:11,190 --> 00:32:14,158
And I was scared to death
but being the type of woman

638
00:32:14,220 --> 00:32:17,118
who she was, it was an experience
wonderful for me

639
00:32:17,180 --> 00:32:19,528
and opened me up to a whole new life.

640
00:32:19,590 --> 00:32:23,908
In fact, it gave me life
because I had no idea that this

641
00:32:23,970 --> 00:32:27,068
existed in experience
of someone's life.

642
00:32:27,130 --> 00:32:28,848
I say love, affection.

643
00:32:28,910 --> 00:32:33,448
I contacted...
For the first time in my life,

644
00:32:33,510 --> 00:32:38,218
I got in touch with...
A band behind me.

645
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,638
And I got in touch
with my femininity

646
00:32:40,700 --> 00:32:42,658
that I really
I didn't know.

647
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,618
I was androgynous
most of my life.

648
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,098
I was married
for 4 years,

649
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,468
I had an affair for four years.

650
00:32:49,530 --> 00:32:50,399
But...

651
00:32:50,461 --> 00:32:52,548
Have you had relationships with women

652
00:32:52,610 --> 00:32:53,758
before getting married?

653
00:32:53,820 --> 00:32:55,098
I didn't have any

654
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,198
I never thought
the idea of having relationships with women.

655
00:32:58,260 --> 00:33:00,238
I thought it was
great for others

656
00:33:00,300 --> 00:33:02,408
but I never thought
that applied to me.

657
00:33:02,470 --> 00:33:05,968
And when I came across this old woman
friend from 8 years ago

658
00:33:06,030 --> 00:33:08,518
and this happened,
I said, "Oh my God!"

659
00:33:08,580 --> 00:33:10,568
I didn't understand what happened.

660
00:33:10,630 --> 00:33:14,078
But I think being from the South,
of a small community,

661
00:33:14,140 --> 00:33:15,878
I didn't even know
what it was like to be gay,

662
00:33:15,940 --> 00:33:18,898
so I didn't have
validation for feelings

663
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,338
that I could have had,
like passions

664
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,908
by the gym teacher
these things.

665
00:33:23,970 --> 00:33:25,628
I had no idea.

666
00:33:25,690 --> 00:33:27,798
Your family
Do you know you're gay?

667
00:33:27,860 --> 00:33:28,789
I would say no.

668
00:33:28,851 --> 00:33:31,198
I never spoke
with them about it.

669
00:33:31,260 --> 00:33:32,898
they think me
strange, different,

670
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,348
but I don't think they see me

671
00:33:34,410 --> 00:33:39,048
as homosexual or lesbian
or even gay.

672
00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:40,548
This parade was a reaction,

673
00:33:40,610 --> 00:33:43,298
but he is bigger
than any other reaction.

674
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,368
So many people saying
thank God

675
00:33:45,430 --> 00:33:46,828
happened, and we got together.

676
00:33:46,890 --> 00:33:48,258
The parade is bigger than that.

677
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,118
I think the sum is much greater
than all its parts.

678
00:33:52,180 --> 00:33:53,798
And it's something that you can't predict.

679
00:33:53,860 --> 00:33:55,898
The feeling I have today,

680
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,398
It's incredibly powerful.

681
00:33:58,460 --> 00:34:00,228
And this is something new for me.

682
00:34:00,237 --> 00:34:02,007
I didn't feel that
in peace marches,

683
00:34:02,020 --> 00:34:04,758
and maybe because
They were not openly gay.

684
00:34:04,820 --> 00:34:07,508
Because I wanted
see for myself

685
00:34:07,570 --> 00:34:12,458
the city of San Francisco
show our nation and the world

686
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,268
that we are not
so ignorant and fanatic

687
00:34:15,330 --> 00:34:17,168
as they are elsewhere.

688
00:34:17,230 --> 00:34:21,288
We both agree
we have never seen such a large crowd

689
00:34:21,350 --> 00:34:25,248
and we feel such good vibes.

690
00:34:25,310 --> 00:34:27,238
I think I like it, I had fun.

691
00:34:27,300 --> 00:34:29,588
And I think
gays must have

692
00:34:29,650 --> 00:34:31,228
freedom for you.

693
00:34:31,290 --> 00:34:32,158
Where are you from?

694
00:34:32,220 --> 00:34:32,858
Philippines.

695
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:33,589
Philippines?

696
00:34:33,651 --> 00:34:35,088
Yes, but I'm in favor of them.

697
00:34:35,150 --> 00:34:35,788
Yes.

698
00:34:35,850 --> 00:34:36,489
Yes.

699
00:34:36,551 --> 00:34:38,098
Thank you.

700
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,099
Yes.

701
00:34:39,161 --> 00:34:41,928
A 50 year old gay man,
spent 30 days

702
00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:45,078
in jail
for nothing other than being gay.

703
00:34:45,140 --> 00:34:48,178
So, when you see this parade,
I want to cry.

704
00:34:48,240 --> 00:34:49,398
It's beautiful.

705
00:34:49,460 --> 00:34:52,018
It's fantastic
see our children free.

706
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,728
It's beautiful.

707
00:34:53,790 --> 00:34:54,429
Right.

708
00:34:54,437 --> 00:34:57,597
Thank God they came out,
they won't need psychiatrists.

709
00:37:18,610 --> 00:37:21,538
Separation from the church
and the State is not a new idea

710
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,938
but many people
they would like to forget her.

711
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,508
Big churches,
maybe not the members,

712
00:37:26,570 --> 00:37:30,268
but the churches, of course,
they always have very repressive ideas

713
00:37:30,330 --> 00:37:33,418
war, burning witches,

714
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,468
the Crusades,
the Spanish Inquisition.

715
00:37:36,530 --> 00:37:40,648
The Bible makes it very clear
that sex of any and all types

716
00:37:40,710 --> 00:37:44,098
It's part of the specific
purpose of procreation

717
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,568
It is amoral, decadent,
and degrading.

718
00:37:46,630 --> 00:37:49,528
And so, morally,
there is no difference

719
00:37:49,590 --> 00:37:52,328
between two guys
having sex or two women

720
00:37:52,390 --> 00:37:56,758
heterosexual sex using any
type of birth control.

721
00:37:56,820 --> 00:37:59,618
In short, casual sex
It is degrading and decadent,

722
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,078
weak, childish
and unproductive.

723
00:38:02,140 --> 00:38:05,558
You can use the Bible
to defend any position,

724
00:38:05,620 --> 00:38:10,578
if you only take a small part
or an excerpt from it.

725
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,898
And the Bible says that
sin is paid for with death.

726
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,118
Man was not destined
to enjoy your senses.

727
00:38:17,180 --> 00:38:19,898
For Christianity, once again,
It's hard to say,

728
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,718
may be offensive,
but Christianity often

729
00:38:22,780 --> 00:38:26,158
is against people,
It is against pleasure.

730
00:38:26,220 --> 00:38:28,588
And I don't think that
is necessarily

731
00:38:28,650 --> 00:38:31,228
what the teachers intended.

732
00:38:31,290 --> 00:38:35,078
And even if it was,
not necessarily my teachers.

733
00:38:35,140 --> 00:38:39,278
God loves homosexuals
just as he loves everyone else.

734
00:38:39,340 --> 00:38:43,338
He just wants them to turn to Him
and put an end to sin.

735
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,298
This country has a constitution
which is the primary law.

736
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,788
Not the Bible, not the Quran,
not someone's idea

737
00:38:50,850 --> 00:38:52,688
what is good
and what is bad.

738
00:38:52,750 --> 00:38:54,928
I feel like many
of these people,

739
00:38:54,990 --> 00:38:58,588
If they had a good preacher,
if they had someone to tell them

740
00:38:58,650 --> 00:39:01,308
about the way of Jesus
that it would help them.

741
00:39:01,370 --> 00:39:04,378
I feel like it's not
as difficult as it seems.

742
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,119
It's in the Constitution.
Religious freedom.

743
00:39:07,181 --> 00:39:08,758
And there is no
religious freedom

744
00:39:08,820 --> 00:39:10,798
whether there is religion in the law.

745
00:39:10,860 --> 00:39:12,338
Simply impossible.

746
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,688
It's more or less
about religion and how it is

747
00:39:15,750 --> 00:39:19,028
used to hurt people
instead

748
00:39:19,090 --> 00:39:22,108
of its supposed purpose.

749
00:39:22,170 --> 00:39:24,218
At least,
most teachers

750
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,528
respect Christ
and everyone else,

751
00:39:27,590 --> 00:39:32,108
keep religion
outside the laws.

752
00:39:32,170 --> 00:39:34,388
And the law I refer to
It's the Constitution.

753
00:39:34,450 --> 00:39:37,048
It's not the Bible, the Qur'an
or anything else,

754
00:39:37,110 --> 00:39:38,418
It's the Constitution.

755
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,700
We have the right
to our own room.

756
00:39:43,370 --> 00:39:49,538
And we have the right not to be
forced to accept religious ideas

757
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,748
of other people
about our personal lives.

758
00:39:53,810 --> 00:39:56,508
I think religion
get into things

759
00:39:56,570 --> 00:39:57,858
like murder.

760
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,218
We all agree
that we don't want that.

761
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,838
But certainly
there are differences here.

762
00:40:03,900 --> 00:40:07,688
And religion has no
place in Congress

763
00:40:07,750 --> 00:40:12,628
or at city hall
or anything like that.

764
00:40:12,690 --> 00:40:15,838
Are you saying you want
the separation of church and state?

765
00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:17,239
Definitely.

766
00:40:17,301 --> 00:40:19,618
We were promised this
a long time ago.

767
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,588
And I hope that finally
let us achieve it.

768
00:40:22,650 --> 00:40:26,058
Maybe what's going on
We've reached the limit.

769
00:40:26,067 --> 00:40:29,227
For a long time, we didn't even have
the right not to have children.

770
00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:34,138
There were laws in many states
about contraception.

771
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,288
It wasn't even
your right because

772
00:40:36,350 --> 00:40:38,118
for certain powerful churches

773
00:40:38,180 --> 00:40:41,128
who decided it was
wrong in their eyes

774
00:40:41,190 --> 00:40:43,308
and they needed to stop it from happening.

775
00:40:43,370 --> 00:40:46,478
But sometimes
preach against a certain group

776
00:40:46,540 --> 00:40:49,248
of people incites
violence against them?

777
00:40:49,257 --> 00:40:51,307
There are people
with a violent nature,

778
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,098
like, in this case,
killing this one man

779
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,968
the other day
that will be very wrong.

780
00:40:57,030 --> 00:41:00,588
Worse than sin
from the other person, whatever it was.

781
00:41:00,650 --> 00:41:04,268
A week ago, I was coming down
the street and there were three

782
00:41:04,330 --> 00:41:08,668
children who passed by me
and one of them hit me on the arm

783
00:41:08,730 --> 00:41:10,088
and called me a fagot.

784
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:10,949
You know.

785
00:41:11,011 --> 00:41:14,868
And with that kind of hostility
runs wildly.

786
00:41:14,930 --> 00:41:17,948
What was your reaction
to this incident?

787
00:41:18,010 --> 00:41:19,228
I was very upset.

788
00:41:19,290 --> 00:41:20,798
I felt hurt.

789
00:41:20,860 --> 00:41:22,818
But I was also angry.

790
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,478
Last week I got on a bus
a day with a friend of mine

791
00:41:26,540 --> 00:41:29,448
and I went to sit
and there was

792
00:41:29,510 --> 00:41:33,058
about four teenagers
at the back of the bus.

793
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,638
And they started calling us
of queers and offending us,

794
00:41:37,700 --> 00:41:41,138
and I was paralyzed because

795
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,478
I was between fear and anger.

796
00:41:45,540 --> 00:41:49,758
I went through the same
at the Rua Castor market,

797
00:41:49,820 --> 00:41:54,348
which should be the center
of the gay community, in a way.

798
00:41:54,410 --> 00:41:58,698
And if that happens there,
certainly

799
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,888
happen anywhere else
in this world.

800
00:42:01,950 --> 00:42:05,468
On days like this,
we feel very united

801
00:42:05,530 --> 00:42:08,078
and we feel
safe and secure.

802
00:42:08,140 --> 00:42:13,578
However, I feel that there is
a threat.

803
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,918
I understood what you said,
at some point

804
00:42:16,980 --> 00:42:19,518
that you were married?

805
00:42:19,580 --> 00:42:20,219
Is it true?

806
00:42:20,281 --> 00:42:23,288
Yes, I was married.
For five years.

807
00:42:23,350 --> 00:42:24,450
I have two daughters.

808
00:42:27,250 --> 00:42:30,188
They know I'm gay

809
00:42:30,250 --> 00:42:33,528
and accept
this situation.

810
00:42:33,590 --> 00:42:36,580
And I hope they continue like this.

811
00:42:48,530 --> 00:42:51,112
I'm on the committee
defense of Jean Gillian

812
00:42:51,136 --> 00:42:53,718
and we are
familiarizing yourself with the case.

813
00:42:53,780 --> 00:42:57,818
And we sell food to raise money
funds for legal fees.

814
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,428
Tell a little
about the case of Jean Gillian.

815
00:43:00,490 --> 00:43:02,668
Jean Gillian is mother
and Oakland lesbian,

816
00:43:02,730 --> 00:43:06,808
and her husband recently
took his children away.

817
00:43:06,870 --> 00:43:10,838
She had a trial
and the appeal has already been made,

818
00:43:10,900 --> 00:43:15,148
and the judge dismissed both
summarily without reading it

819
00:43:15,210 --> 00:43:18,158
and placed gag orders
in any case.

820
00:43:18,220 --> 00:43:20,818
So the appeal now goes
to the Supreme Court.

821
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,298
We are trying to help you
to get $12,000 for the defense.

822
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,478
How much money did you make today?

823
00:43:26,540 --> 00:43:27,858
More than $1,000.

824
00:43:27,867 --> 00:43:30,377
We represent women
who couldn't

825
00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:32,388
be here because
there are millions

826
00:43:32,450 --> 00:43:35,438
of lesbian women
locked in the house

827
00:43:35,500 --> 00:43:38,628
in dependent relationships
with men,

828
00:43:38,637 --> 00:43:40,348
as they are financially dependent.

829
00:43:40,410 --> 00:43:44,258
And so, they can't leave
for a parade like this.

830
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,888
Do you think there are many lesbian mothers

831
00:43:46,950 --> 00:43:49,878
afraid to come out
because they can lose their children?

832
00:43:49,940 --> 00:43:50,579
For sure.

833
00:43:50,641 --> 00:43:53,478
This whole campaign
from "save our children"

834
00:43:53,540 --> 00:43:56,498
are a real attack
To lesbian women

835
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,648
and to lesbian mothers,
a real attempt

836
00:43:58,710 --> 00:44:01,768
to push us
home and force us to choose

837
00:44:01,830 --> 00:44:04,498
between being lesbian
and have children.

838
00:44:04,507 --> 00:44:06,107
What do you think of the word "shoe"?

839
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,258
I don't like it.

840
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,348
Walking around
I heard some women

841
00:44:09,410 --> 00:44:11,828
say:
"Hey, nice shoes."

842
00:44:11,890 --> 00:44:13,038
I don't like the word.

843
00:44:13,100 --> 00:44:14,698
I'm not going to answer that.

844
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:15,579
I'm a woman.

845
00:44:15,641 --> 00:44:17,548
What do you think
from the word "shoe"?

846
00:44:17,610 --> 00:44:20,088
I like shoes.

847
00:44:20,150 --> 00:44:21,888
I'm a dyke.

848
00:44:21,950 --> 00:44:23,058
AND...

849
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,468
Do you think people
Do you use this word in a negative way?

850
00:44:26,530 --> 00:44:27,428
I don't think so.

851
00:44:27,490 --> 00:44:28,128
Do you think so?

852
00:44:28,190 --> 00:44:29,190
No, I like it.

853
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:33,588
-Are you having fun?
-Yes.

854
00:44:33,650 --> 00:44:34,328
Good parade?

855
00:44:34,390 --> 00:44:35,029
Yes.

856
00:44:35,091 --> 00:44:37,698
-Good parade?
-A very good parade.

857
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:38,659
Very good.

858
00:44:38,721 --> 00:44:40,368
Very good.

859
00:44:40,430 --> 00:44:41,069
Are you gay?

860
00:44:41,131 --> 00:44:44,208
No, but I fight
for your rights.

861
00:44:44,270 --> 00:44:46,068
For rights.

862
00:44:46,130 --> 00:44:47,278
Are you having fun?

863
00:44:47,340 --> 00:44:47,978
Very!

864
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,040
A beer?

865
00:44:51,380 --> 00:44:52,279
Nothing like this.

866
00:44:52,341 --> 00:44:53,428
Are you from here?

867
00:44:53,490 --> 00:44:54,268
Yes sir.

868
00:44:54,330 --> 00:44:55,208
Are you gay?

869
00:44:55,270 --> 00:44:55,908
Of course.

870
00:44:55,917 --> 00:44:57,308
-Having fun?
-Yes sir.

871
00:44:57,370 --> 00:45:00,008
-Have you been living here for a long time?
-50 years.

872
00:45:00,070 --> 00:45:02,788
-Have things changed in that time?
-Very!

873
00:45:02,850 --> 00:45:03,709
For the better?

874
00:45:03,771 --> 00:45:04,968
For the better.

875
00:45:05,030 --> 00:45:05,669
It got better.

876
00:45:05,731 --> 00:45:07,438
What do you think
from today's parade?

877
00:45:07,500 --> 00:45:08,498
It's incredible.

878
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,588
Nowhere else but here
there must be something like that.

879
00:45:11,650 --> 00:45:14,398
It's simply fantastic.

880
00:45:14,460 --> 00:45:17,368
I'm proud of everyone here,
and I wish more people

881
00:45:17,430 --> 00:45:21,208
come see the big
feeling that is circulating.

882
00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:22,568
How were you?

883
00:45:22,630 --> 00:45:24,228
It was at the Castro theater.

884
00:45:24,290 --> 00:45:26,688
We were watching a movie
and we saw each other

885
00:45:26,750 --> 00:45:28,348
and just, you know.

886
00:45:28,410 --> 00:45:29,958
The second time,
we were

887
00:45:30,020 --> 00:45:32,628
sitting together
and it ended up happening.

888
00:45:32,690 --> 00:45:36,518
If I love someone, I don't want to say
"I love you, but I can't

889
00:45:36,580 --> 00:45:40,348
touch you", because the feelings
are also very important.

890
00:45:40,410 --> 00:45:42,958
We are very sensitive,
all of us.

891
00:45:43,020 --> 00:45:44,218
What brought you here?

892
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:49,148
Frictions between the family
in Kansas and here I stay

893
00:45:49,210 --> 00:45:52,028
more relaxed.

894
00:45:52,090 --> 00:45:57,098
Found problems
for being gay there?

895
00:45:57,107 --> 00:45:59,137
We cannot demonstrate
feelings,

896
00:45:59,150 --> 00:46:02,568
or tag you
and crucify you.

897
00:46:02,630 --> 00:46:05,398
They just
They don't like it there.

898
00:46:05,460 --> 00:46:09,458
I believe that people should be
able to relate to people

899
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,388
and communicate with people
and not draw borders

900
00:46:12,450 --> 00:46:15,748
by someone
be a man or a woman.

901
00:46:15,810 --> 00:46:18,868
Why we are here
for life, for freedom,

902
00:46:18,930 --> 00:46:20,638
and the pursuit of happiness.

903
00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:21,629
That's what I want.

904
00:46:21,691 --> 00:46:24,448
Do you think you will
stay in San Francisco?

905
00:46:24,510 --> 00:46:26,938
Yes, we live
in San Francisco.

906
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,500
I hope for a long time.

907
00:48:45,267 --> 00:48:46,149
That's the story.

908
00:48:46,157 --> 00:48:48,937
A woman fell in love with me
when I was 18.

909
00:48:48,950 --> 00:48:52,958
But actually I didn't come out
until I was 21, almost 22.

910
00:48:53,020 --> 00:48:55,668
I think because I
I became very interested,

911
00:48:55,730 --> 00:49:00,658
I was very curious
in having sexual relations with women.

912
00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:02,448
Especially women

913
00:49:02,510 --> 00:49:05,348
are within the dichotomy
of man and woman

914
00:49:05,410 --> 00:49:08,528
and that was even harder
because I knew what I wanted

915
00:49:08,590 --> 00:49:10,038
but it was on the west coast

916
00:49:10,047 --> 00:49:12,127
I was stuck on the east coast,
at the time.

917
00:49:12,140 --> 00:49:13,478
At first I was curious

918
00:49:13,540 --> 00:49:14,958
So I got scared.

919
00:49:15,020 --> 00:49:16,778
I lived in Los Angeles,
at the time,

920
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,038
I didn't know anyone.

921
00:49:18,100 --> 00:49:19,868
I didn't know any gay people.

922
00:49:19,930 --> 00:49:22,318
And I was very scared
about me being gay,

923
00:49:22,380 --> 00:49:24,358
as if I didn't see
a future in it.

924
00:49:24,420 --> 00:49:26,828
When I came out
and everything exploded

925
00:49:26,890 --> 00:49:28,798
I had to find my reasons

926
00:49:28,860 --> 00:49:31,198
and California means
a lot for me.

927
00:49:31,260 --> 00:49:32,888
So I don't know.

928
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:35,718
I was very curious
besides finding it interesting,

929
00:49:35,780 --> 00:49:38,768
That's why I once asked:
"Ann tell me how it is

930
00:49:38,830 --> 00:49:40,058
have sex with a woman."

931
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,658
And she said:
"I can't,

932
00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:44,018
I can't say what that's like.

933
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,828
You have to figure it out."

934
00:49:45,890 --> 00:49:47,128
And I'm like...

935
00:49:47,190 --> 00:49:51,908
That was three lovers later, and
now my lover, due to the economy,

936
00:49:51,970 --> 00:49:54,518
is working
in Bakersfield in the summer.

937
00:49:54,580 --> 00:49:57,908
A few weeks later,
my friend and her lover

938
00:49:57,970 --> 00:49:59,588
They asked me to have sex.

939
00:49:59,650 --> 00:50:03,178
And I was married
with a man at the time.

940
00:50:03,240 --> 00:50:06,098
It's difficult because
they are in positions

941
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,218
and my resignations
have to do with this.

942
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,988
Being gay for me
a situation of political power.

943
00:50:12,050 --> 00:50:13,858
I don't know how
talk about it.

944
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,568
I think it's like loving.

945
00:50:16,630 --> 00:50:18,508
The woman with whom
I relate

946
00:50:18,570 --> 00:50:22,460
I don't know why I love her,
but I love her.

947
00:52:29,050 --> 00:52:32,868
I came out because
I'm proud to be gay

948
00:52:32,930 --> 00:52:34,688
and I want you to know that.

949
00:52:34,750 --> 00:52:36,418
And I thought the more...

950
00:52:36,427 --> 00:52:38,018
I knew there would be a lot of people.

951
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,728
There's no way we can see
so many gay people

952
00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:43,468
together in any
another time of year,

953
00:52:43,530 --> 00:52:45,668
and it's such a free thing.

954
00:52:45,730 --> 00:52:48,448
Because usually
you walk around,

955
00:52:48,510 --> 00:52:50,438
you might be gay,
but no one knows

956
00:52:50,500 --> 00:52:52,058
and if they know
you assume

957
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:53,388
who hate you for it.

958
00:52:53,450 --> 00:52:56,278
And here you can walk around
and they love you for it,

959
00:52:56,340 --> 00:52:57,728
and you can love them too.

960
00:52:57,790 --> 00:53:00,168
There are straight people here
defending gay rights

961
00:53:00,230 --> 00:53:02,108
and many are friends,
in a way.

962
00:53:02,170 --> 00:53:04,458
You know,
they are not afraid.

963
00:53:04,467 --> 00:53:06,957
In a way, they're not so afraid
as for gays

964
00:53:06,970 --> 00:53:08,148
because they don't understand.

965
00:53:08,210 --> 00:53:10,178
I see this is the first time I

966
00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:12,548
I'm with so many men,
and I'm not afraid,

967
00:53:12,610 --> 00:53:13,828
and I'm not harassed.

968
00:53:13,890 --> 00:53:16,898
And being able to be on the streets
with so many people

969
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,178
and not be afraid of them
physically or mentally,

970
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:23,018
this never happened to me

971
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,218
in my life except
with lesbians

972
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:26,698
But they were women, right?

973
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,068
This is the real world,

974
00:53:28,130 --> 00:53:31,128
the real world,
and not have to be separated

975
00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:34,518
and be able to be yourself.

976
00:53:34,580 --> 00:53:35,580
You can't win.

977
00:53:39,670 --> 00:53:41,438
Straight guys who don't care about gays

978
00:53:41,500 --> 00:53:43,728
but they want
that are not flashy,

979
00:53:43,790 --> 00:53:46,578
you know people
with great courage.

980
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,688
Sometimes I don't believe
in the things I see and hear.

981
00:53:49,750 --> 00:53:53,298
Did you meet the woman who shocked
by two women kissing

982
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,568
and in the same breath he tells you
that she is pregnant?

983
00:53:56,630 --> 00:53:58,888
But gays
They should not be flashy.

984
00:53:58,950 --> 00:54:00,918
Or straight guys next to you at the movies

985
00:54:00,980 --> 00:54:03,788
and you don't hear the dialogue
because of the noise,

986
00:54:03,797 --> 00:54:05,727
but gays shouldn't be flashy.

987
00:54:05,740 --> 00:54:08,578
And the woman in the office
lunch hour passes

988
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,728
talking about
your new bikinis

989
00:54:10,790 --> 00:54:13,238
and how much your husband
likes them, but the gays

990
00:54:13,300 --> 00:54:14,638
They should not be flashy.

991
00:54:14,700 --> 00:54:17,258
Or the popular girl in class
talking non stop

992
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,258
and you are paralyzed
with the camping trip

993
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,418
that she did with her musician boyfriend.

994
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,478
But gays shouldn't be flashy.

995
00:54:24,540 --> 00:54:26,198
In every public bathroom,

996
00:54:26,260 --> 00:54:29,278
through the walls there
John loves Mary, Janice

997
00:54:29,340 --> 00:54:31,868
loves Richard,
Pepe loves Dolores, etc.,

998
00:54:31,877 --> 00:54:33,647
but gays shouldn't be flashy.

999
00:54:33,660 --> 00:54:35,818
Or will you
to an amusement park

1000
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,128
in the tunnel of love
and there are photos of straight men

1001
00:54:38,190 --> 00:54:40,758
on the facade and couples smiling
that come and go,

1002
00:54:40,767 --> 00:54:42,568
but gays shouldn't be flashy.

1003
00:54:42,630 --> 00:54:44,698
The fact is
flashy heterosexuals

1004
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,278
are everywhere,
supermarkets,

1005
00:54:47,340 --> 00:54:51,258
cinemas, at work, at church,
in books, on television every day

1006
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,148
and night, everywhere,
even in gay bars.

1007
00:54:54,210 --> 00:54:58,138
And they want men and women
gays hide in closets.

1008
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:02,958
Therefore, heterosexuals, I say: "I
I hide, if you also hide.

1009
00:55:03,020 --> 00:55:05,218
But I'm polite, so
go first."

1010
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,218
At the moment I work
as an early childhood educator

1011
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,518
for the Family Transcultural Center
here in San Francisco.

1012
00:55:11,580 --> 00:55:15,408
And I work with children from
2, 3 and 4 years as a teacher.

1013
00:55:15,470 --> 00:55:19,158
And they know
since I came out

1014
00:55:19,220 --> 00:55:22,428
and maybe since when
I became aware of being gay,

1015
00:55:22,490 --> 00:55:25,468
that was an assumption
for my desire

1016
00:55:25,530 --> 00:55:27,458
of doing ballet as a child.

1017
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,288
My mom's best friend said

1018
00:55:29,350 --> 00:55:34,378
that I was queer,
So I couldn't do ballet.

1019
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,648
I wanted,
I regret not having done it,

1020
00:55:36,657 --> 00:55:38,018
It would be good preparation.

1021
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,608
I simply love it.

1022
00:55:40,670 --> 00:55:42,378
I love being
with children

1023
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,398
and I love sharing
my love with small children.

1024
00:55:45,460 --> 00:55:47,608
Seeing them run
and jump and grow.

1025
00:55:47,670 --> 00:55:50,158
It's a joy,
lots of joy.

1026
00:55:50,220 --> 00:55:53,848
I'm from San Diego,
and with the exception of friends

1027
00:55:53,910 --> 00:55:56,498
what I did when I arrived,
most of my friends

1028
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,498
They're gays from San Diego.

1029
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:03,858
And we managed very well
for this reason

1030
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,738
because it wasn't possible there.

1031
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,478
We didn't give as much as possible
to be comfortably gay,

1032
00:56:09,540 --> 00:56:12,788
be where we are
and be gay and stay there.

1033
00:56:12,850 --> 00:56:13,489
And we left.

1034
00:56:13,551 --> 00:56:16,078
Here is the place
to do this.

1035
00:56:16,140 --> 00:56:18,678
Living in San Francisco has been,

1036
00:56:18,740 --> 00:56:21,338
a true miracle for that.

1037
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,358
I had problems with a teacher

1038
00:56:23,420 --> 00:56:25,568
secondary education in
Rochester, New York.

1039
00:56:25,630 --> 00:56:28,698
This is one of the reasons
that led me to come here.

1040
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,228
I taught at secondary school
for five years,

1041
00:56:31,290 --> 00:56:33,838
He was an art teacher
in upstate New York.

1042
00:56:33,900 --> 00:56:37,658
It wasn't assumed and I felt
very dissatisfied with myself.

1043
00:56:37,720 --> 00:56:39,608
And then I came
visit San Francisco,

1044
00:56:39,670 --> 00:56:43,468
and I saw everyone loving each other
and I saw so much openness

1045
00:56:43,530 --> 00:56:44,938
and I had to be here.

1046
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,678
I think it's because I'm gay,
I was never straight,

1047
00:56:48,740 --> 00:56:50,548
so I don't know
how would I feel

1048
00:56:50,610 --> 00:56:53,208
about it
if I were heterosexual.

1049
00:56:53,270 --> 00:56:54,668
I have great relationships

1050
00:56:54,730 --> 00:56:56,078
with parents too.

1051
00:56:56,140 --> 00:56:57,768
For the first time in my life,

1052
00:56:57,830 --> 00:57:02,528
Can I live as an openly gay man?
and I can be totally myself.

1053
00:57:02,590 --> 00:57:04,338
I can flaunt it whenever I want

1054
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,788
I can be so conservative
as much as you want.

1055
00:57:06,850 --> 00:57:08,758
Well, the story is this.

1056
00:57:08,820 --> 00:57:12,498
When I was 4 years old, I used
put legos in my socks

1057
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,998
because I always wanted
wear high heels.

1058
00:57:15,060 --> 00:57:17,898
And I used to do that
in secret.

1059
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:22,288
I came to San Francisco
and found out it wasn't a problem

1060
00:57:22,350 --> 00:57:25,578
And I wear my stiletto heels
on days like today

1061
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,908
because I always wanted
wear high heels.

1062
00:57:27,970 --> 00:57:29,868
I think everything is fine.

1063
00:57:29,930 --> 00:57:33,138
It's perfectly acceptable
wear high heels.

1064
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:34,668
I am judged from time to time,

1065
00:57:34,730 --> 00:57:36,538
But I can handle it, I hope.

1066
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:40,218
My feeling is that drag queens,
are degrading to women.

1067
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,468
And I don't pretend
understand what motivates

1068
00:57:42,530 --> 00:57:45,608
men to do this,
but I know that the whole society mocks

1069
00:57:45,670 --> 00:57:49,358
of women, at the same time as
pushes them into that role.

1070
00:57:49,420 --> 00:57:52,288
And I think there are still women
across the country,

1071
00:57:52,350 --> 00:57:56,048
and in the world, suffering
to try to be that stereotype.

1072
00:57:56,110 --> 00:57:58,908
And are taught
which is what they should be.

1073
00:57:58,970 --> 00:58:01,638
And see the men
excited about it, knowing

1074
00:58:01,700 --> 00:58:04,018
who do not go through the oppression of this.

1075
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:05,328
They're just having fun.

1076
00:58:05,390 --> 00:58:08,298
They can take
the dress and makeup

1077
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:09,548
and get rid of that role.

1078
00:58:09,610 --> 00:58:12,928
So, for me, it's a question
very, very heavy.

1079
00:58:12,990 --> 00:58:14,238
I love that.

1080
00:58:14,300 --> 00:58:16,088
I made a decision
a long time ago

1081
00:58:16,097 --> 00:58:18,017
to do nothing
that doesn't do me any good.

1082
00:58:18,030 --> 00:58:20,238
And enjoy
and have fun.

1083
00:58:20,300 --> 00:58:22,358
It's the only thing
that is worth doing.

1084
00:58:22,420 --> 00:58:23,958
I don't have time

1085
00:58:24,020 --> 00:58:26,428
to deal with drag queens

1086
00:58:26,490 --> 00:58:29,110
because I find it offensive.

1087
00:58:31,567 --> 00:58:34,458
drag is a tool
which is used to express who you are,

1088
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,238
and in terms of clothes.

1089
00:58:36,300 --> 00:58:38,598
Some wear leather,
some wear feathers,

1090
00:58:38,660 --> 00:58:41,588
some wear sequins,
some wear Levi's.

1091
00:58:41,650 --> 00:58:42,299
It's all drag.

1092
00:58:42,361 --> 00:58:44,788
They are tools to say
who you are.

1093
00:58:44,850 --> 00:58:49,028
I like the absurd.
I like punk rock and crazy stuff.

1094
00:58:49,090 --> 00:58:51,288
I'm a punk rock freak.

1095
00:58:51,350 --> 00:58:54,338
But the drag is a little
offensive to me.

1096
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,128
And I think when
you're having fun,

1097
00:58:57,190 --> 00:59:01,568
people relate to it,
even if it's not their style.

1098
00:59:01,630 --> 00:59:06,298
When I see men dressed
as Anita Bryant

1099
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,758
and, what do
almost always

1100
00:59:09,820 --> 00:59:11,698
offensively,
because there is no

1101
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,518
description for femininity
in my mind.

1102
00:59:14,527 --> 00:59:15,808
It's beyond stereotypes.

1103
00:59:15,870 --> 00:59:17,078
Or do they love
or hate.

1104
00:59:17,140 --> 00:59:19,998
In the same way they love,
they hate without reason.

1105
00:59:20,060 --> 00:59:22,608
But it's just a focusing device.

1106
00:59:22,670 --> 00:59:25,528
It's like a magnifying glass
this just makes it clear,

1107
00:59:25,590 --> 00:59:27,888
makes it bigger in your eyes.

1108
00:59:27,950 --> 00:59:31,148
And I still relate to hope
in the same way

1109
00:59:31,210 --> 00:59:33,048
What would it be like if I didn't wear feathers?

1110
00:59:33,110 --> 00:59:34,110
and makeup.

1111
00:59:36,210 --> 00:59:37,618
There's comedy in that.

1112
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,088
I talked to a guy
last sunday

1113
00:59:40,150 --> 00:59:41,628
and it's just a way to laugh.

1114
00:59:41,690 --> 00:59:43,558
Yes, because it's fun,
but also

1115
00:59:43,620 --> 00:59:45,508
there is politics behind it.

1116
00:59:45,570 --> 00:59:48,138
I feel like a victim of sexism.

1117
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:52,118
And I think to understand
in which I am a victim,

1118
00:59:52,180 --> 00:59:54,468
I have to understand
what sex is about,

1119
00:59:54,530 --> 00:59:58,058
both as a homosexual,
when it comes to women,

1120
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,558
sex in terms of clothes
they use and things like that.

1121
01:00:01,620 --> 01:00:05,788
It helps me feel
androgynous or hermaphrodite.

1122
01:00:05,850 --> 01:00:08,878
It makes me feel
as a complete person

1123
01:00:08,940 --> 01:00:10,288
instead of half a person.

1124
01:00:10,350 --> 01:00:14,848
Just as I am part of all humanity
instead of just half of it.

1125
01:00:14,910 --> 01:00:17,068
In radical and oppressive societies

1126
01:00:17,130 --> 01:00:19,068
and fashionable societies.

1127
01:00:19,130 --> 01:00:20,958
Are taught
to dress alike.

1128
01:00:20,967 --> 01:00:23,348
They are forced to dress alike,
and act alike.

1129
01:00:23,410 --> 01:00:27,428
to live in opposition
to your internal needs,

1130
01:00:27,490 --> 01:00:30,128
your inner desires,
your own promotion.

1131
01:00:30,190 --> 01:00:31,029
And it's easier.

1132
01:00:31,091 --> 01:00:33,708
It's easier to control
when you don't have a relationship

1133
01:00:33,770 --> 01:00:35,098
on an individual level

1134
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,088
and relates
like an image.

1135
01:00:37,150 --> 01:00:40,298
I am an individual human being
and I want to express that.

1136
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,458
I want to express
my truth.

1137
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:43,678
Everyone is different.

1138
01:00:43,740 --> 01:00:46,768
And they need to express
your differences

1139
01:00:46,830 --> 01:00:49,988
so as not to fall into a queue
and start taking orders

1140
01:00:50,050 --> 01:00:55,798
and not question
what the superiors say

1141
01:00:55,860 --> 01:00:57,978
and they tell you to do it.

1142
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,788
And when everyone
look the same, then you

1143
01:01:00,850 --> 01:01:03,168
assumes that everyone is
just like you,

1144
01:01:03,230 --> 01:01:05,308
so you can take
your freedoms

1145
01:01:05,370 --> 01:01:08,428
and don't see that people
are at different times.

1146
01:01:08,490 --> 01:01:11,578
When we see the mass
in company statements

1147
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,778
totalitarian societies where you see
many people like today

1148
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:18,498
you don't have the notion of an individual,

1149
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,568
don't you see that they are
real people there,

1150
01:01:20,630 --> 01:01:23,498
you only see flocks of sheep.

1151
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,528
The basis of racism
and sexism

1152
01:01:26,590 --> 01:01:29,278
 � see people,
not as individuals,

1153
01:01:29,340 --> 01:01:31,408
but how
part of the group.

1154
01:01:31,470 --> 01:01:35,598
See them as stereotypes,
a queer

1155
01:01:35,660 --> 01:01:38,048
or a black
or a dirty old man.

1156
01:01:38,110 --> 01:01:41,548
You start not to think
in people as individuals.

1157
01:01:41,610 --> 01:01:43,508
They dress alike,
they talk the same

1158
01:01:43,570 --> 01:01:45,078
they raise their hands together.

1159
01:01:45,140 --> 01:01:46,558
When they are themselves,

1160
01:01:46,620 --> 01:01:49,268
you see that it exists
all this diversity.

1161
01:01:49,330 --> 01:01:52,318
See all these people today,
Just give us an idea

1162
01:01:52,380 --> 01:01:54,718
trustworthy
that kind of thing

1163
01:01:54,780 --> 01:01:56,488
never happen� 
again

1164
01:01:56,550 --> 01:01:59,018
because there is a spectrum
of people around.

1165
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:02,898
And some of us won't let
May this happen again.

1166
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:06,538
I notice a lot of people
using pink triangles today.

1167
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:10,348
The pink triangle began to be used
in recent years

1168
01:02:10,410 --> 01:02:14,198
as an identification
of gay individuals,

1169
01:02:14,260 --> 01:02:17,268
who were arrested by Nazis
in Germany, and forced

1170
01:02:17,330 --> 01:02:21,138
using a pink triangle
meaning his homosexuality.

1171
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:26,038
The sad fact of gay history
during that time

1172
01:02:26,100 --> 01:02:29,358
is that very few people,
at the time or even now,

1173
01:02:29,420 --> 01:02:33,288
do you realize how many hundreds
of thousands of gay individuals

1174
01:02:33,350 --> 01:02:37,118
were thrown
in concentration camps,

1175
01:02:37,180 --> 01:02:42,068
and killed, summarily executed
or worked to death.

1176
01:02:42,130 --> 01:02:44,718
The homosexual population in Germany

1177
01:02:44,780 --> 01:02:49,238
was one of the first populations
which was subjected to genocide.

1178
01:02:49,300 --> 01:02:51,808
In fact, some
of extermination methods

1179
01:02:51,870 --> 01:02:55,598
which were used later,
had been first

1180
01:02:55,660 --> 01:02:58,188
experienced in gay individuals.

1181
01:02:58,250 --> 01:03:01,398
Gays must learn
with its own story.

1182
01:03:01,407 --> 01:03:02,957
Many use the pink triangle

1183
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,888
and probably have some idea

1184
01:03:05,950 --> 01:03:10,260
how horrible the story is
of this triangle.

1185
01:03:55,170 --> 01:03:57,098
Gay rights now!

1186
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:58,598
Gay rights now!

1187
01:03:58,660 --> 01:04:00,160
Gay rights now!

1188
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,598
If you could invite a gay
of any period

1189
01:04:17,607 --> 01:04:19,787
of history,
Who would you like to see here today?

1190
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:23,248
I can't say
a person I would like.

1191
01:04:23,310 --> 01:04:27,088
I can think of many people
that I wanted them to be here.

1192
01:04:27,150 --> 01:04:27,789
I would love.

1193
01:04:27,851 --> 01:04:31,028
I think I would like to see
Alexander the Great,

1194
01:04:31,090 --> 01:04:34,238
when reading the "Persian Boy",
I think it would be a history lesson

1195
01:04:34,300 --> 01:04:36,608
see the men
parading in the street

1196
01:04:36,670 --> 01:04:39,848
with the sunlight
shining on his armor.

1197
01:04:39,910 --> 01:04:44,190
I wish all the Amazons
were here rocking the parade.

1198
01:04:47,460 --> 01:04:49,038
Herman Melville.

1199
01:04:49,100 --> 01:04:51,970
Jesus Christ, I'm sure
that he was gay.

1200
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:59,708
Any man who has not had women,
and we know that he had no women,

1201
01:04:59,770 --> 01:05:00,669
It's in the Bible.

1202
01:05:00,731 --> 01:05:05,348
There never was any man like that.
I think he was probably gay.

1203
01:05:05,410 --> 01:05:07,088
I think he would love the parade.

1204
01:05:07,150 --> 01:05:08,648
He would like the parade.

1205
01:05:08,710 --> 01:05:11,968
He would see that many people
they dress like him.

1206
01:05:12,030 --> 01:05:15,210
I wish Sappho was here
and all her friends.

1207
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:23,188
I think James Baldwin,
if he is gay.

1208
01:05:23,250 --> 01:05:26,938
I wish Diana, the huntress
was here.

1209
01:05:26,967 --> 01:05:28,788
Probably Buster Crabbe, you know?

1210
01:05:28,850 --> 01:05:30,948
Nowadays, he could make movies.

1211
01:05:31,010 --> 01:05:33,848
At that time, they fired him

1212
01:05:33,910 --> 01:05:35,518
for being gay.

1213
01:05:35,580 --> 01:05:36,638
Bessie Smith.

1214
01:05:36,700 --> 01:05:39,988
I think Andr� Gide

1215
01:05:40,050 --> 01:05:43,618
He's the man I thought about,
while I walked.

1216
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,558
When I studied,
Andr� Gide, the great writer

1217
01:05:46,620 --> 01:05:49,218
French, was an inspiration and model

1218
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,558
because he took over
his homosexuality

1219
01:05:51,620 --> 01:05:53,248
but he had to fight for it.

1220
01:05:53,310 --> 01:05:55,298
He would have liked to take to the streets.

1221
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:59,078
He was a man of the streets
just as he was a man of letters.

1222
01:05:59,140 --> 01:06:03,368
Today's show with everyone
the thousands and thousands

1223
01:06:03,430 --> 01:06:06,028
and thousands of people
on the streets of San Francisco

1224
01:06:06,090 --> 01:06:08,718
and in other large cities,

1225
01:06:08,780 --> 01:06:11,698
It is a statement
for everyone

1226
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:15,278
that there are gays,
that there is a gay life,

1227
01:06:15,340 --> 01:06:18,858
a gay community
for the young

1228
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:22,888
somewhere feeling
very alone.

1229
01:06:22,950 --> 01:06:27,038
This type of statement
take away this terrible feeling

1230
01:06:27,100 --> 01:06:29,428
of isolation and solidity.

1231
01:06:29,490 --> 01:06:32,168
We had an expression:
"One way or another,

1232
01:06:32,230 --> 01:06:34,128
It's not street clothes",
that is, one should not

1233
01:06:34,190 --> 01:06:36,188
go to the street
without having

1234
01:06:36,250 --> 01:06:38,478
something identified you
as a gay person.

1235
01:06:38,540 --> 01:06:39,988
And if you want to hide

1236
01:06:40,050 --> 01:06:43,848
If you're trying to keep
a job or live in a community

1237
01:06:43,910 --> 01:06:45,748
where you don't want them to know
who is gay.

1238
01:06:45,757 --> 01:06:47,627
There are people
that you can't talk.

1239
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,228
But these people,
we always knew,

1240
01:06:50,290 --> 01:06:51,518
serve a purpose.

1241
01:06:51,580 --> 01:06:54,688
They put us in a place
to hide.

1242
01:06:54,750 --> 01:06:57,848
And therefore it is very important
in today's gay parade

1243
01:06:57,910 --> 01:07:01,008
that there are individuals who are flashy,
which are obvious,

1244
01:07:01,070 --> 01:07:02,978
which are outrageous.

1245
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:04,638
Because they were always there.

1246
01:07:04,700 --> 01:07:06,718
The drag queens,
the effeminate ones,

1247
01:07:06,780 --> 01:07:10,828
people who, through their behavior,
They say, "I'm so gay,

1248
01:07:10,890 --> 01:07:13,138
that I can't cover up."

1249
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,228
And we all
we can stand aside

1250
01:07:15,290 --> 01:07:16,848
and let the world think

1251
01:07:16,910 --> 01:07:18,808
That's what it's like to be gay.

1252
01:07:18,870 --> 01:07:22,970
Today, we come together
and we held hands.