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[JAYE] HAVE You EVER
BEEN THROUGH SOMETHING

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AND YOU DON'T KNOW
WHAT JUST HAPPENED,

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BUT YOU KNOW IT WAS
IMPORTANT TO GO THROUGH?

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THIS IS THAT JOURNEY FOR ME.

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<i>[NEWSCASTER] MISOGYNIST
RANTING wouu) BE AT HOME</i>

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IN THE FAR REACHING
INTERNET SUBCULTURE

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WIDELY DESCRIBED AS
THE MEN'S RIGHTS MOVEMENT--

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<i>A TOXIC DISTILLATION OF THE WORST
ASPECTS OF AMERICAN SEXISM.</i>

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<i>IT'S A UNIVERSE OF MESSAGE
BOARDS WHERE MEN GET TOGETHER</i>

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TO EXPRESS THEIR HATRED
TOWARDS WOMEN.

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<i>[MAN] WELL, 1 THOUGHT MEN
HAD ALL OF THE ADV ANT AGES</i>

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IN THE WORLD THESE DAYS?

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[MAN
THAT'S UTTER NONSENSE.

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MEN ARE ROUTINELY GROUND UP
IN A FAMILY COURT SYSTEM

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THAT IS MISANDRIST
AND BIASED AGAINST THEM.

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THEY ARE THE MAJORITY
OF THE HOMELESS.

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THEY ARE THE MAJORITY
OF SUICIDES.

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THEY ARE MAJORITY
OF THE DRUG ADDICTED.

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THEY ARE THE MAJORITY
OF THE UNEMPLOYED.

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THEY ARE MAJORITY
OF THE SCHOOL DROP OUTS.

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THEY ARE THE MAJORITY
OF THOSE IN PRISON--

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HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE
NOT THE CAUSE OF THESE PROBLEMS?

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<i>THERE'S A REASON THAT WOMEN LIVE
LONGER, MARK, LET ME TELL YOU.</i>

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IT IS BECAUSE
WE ARE STRONGER

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<i>AND WE ARE HAPPIER AT THE END
OF THE DAY THAN MOST MEN,</i>

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AND THAT IS FACTUAL
AND YOU KNOW IT.

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AND WHEN MEN ARE MARRIED
TO WOMEN WHO SCREAM LIKE YOU

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THEY JUST WANT
TO DIE SOONER.

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- I'M NOT SCREAMING.
- WHEN YOU HAVE...

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[NEWSCASTER]
A VOICE FOR MEN--

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AN ONLINE HUB
FOR MEN'S RIGHTS ACTIVISTS.

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THEY WERE FOUNDED BY A MAN
NAMED PAUL ELAM.

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<i>[MAN] IT'S A WEBSITE
CALLED “ A VOICE FOR MEN“</i>

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THAT'S RUN BY A MAN
NAMED PAUL ELAM--

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WHICH IS "MALE"
SPELLED BACKWARDS,

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BUT IT IS HIS
REAL NAME APPARENTLY.

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IT'S A GATHERING
OF WOMEN HATERS.

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THIS SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER
HAS CLASSIFIED THAT GROUP

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AND MEN'S RIGHTS GROUPS
AS HATE GROUPS.

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HE WROTE A PIECE

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DECLARING
THE MONTH OF OCTOBER

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TO BE
"BASH A VIOLENT BITCH" MONTH.

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"I MEAN, LITERALLY TO GRAB
THEM BY THE HAIR,

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AND SMACK THEIR FACE
AGAINST THE WALL," HE WROTE.

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[DRIVER]
HERE HE IS.

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YOU MAY BE WONDERING
WHY I'M SITTING IN A CAR

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<i>WITH NOTORIOUS MEN'S
RIGHTS ACTIVIST PAUL ELAM.</i>

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THAT'S A VALID QUESTION.

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AND TO ANSWER IT,

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I NEED TO START
AT THE BEGINNING--

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THE BEGINNING OF HOW
I BECAME A FEMINIST.

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<i>1 WAS A QUIET KID, PREFERRING
TO OBSERVE FROM AFAR.</i>

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MY MOM PUT ME
IN THEATER CLASSES

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WHEN I WAS EIGHT YEARS OLD
TO BREAK ME OUT OF MY SHELL,

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AND I LOVED IT,

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SO MUCH TO THE POINT
THAT I DECIDED

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TO MOVE TO HOLLYWOOD
WHEN I WAS 18 YEARS OLD

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TO BECOME AN ACTRESS.

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WHAT I WASN'T PREPARED FOR
WAS TO BE PIGEONHOLED

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AS THE BLONDE
WHO ALWAYS DIED.

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BILLY?

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[SCREAMING]

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GRANTED,
I HAD A GOOD SCREAM.

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BUT THE CHARACTERS I PLAYED

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WEREN'T ALONE
IN FEELING OBJECTIFIED.

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I WAS COMMONLY HARASSED
ON THE STREETS,

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HIT ON BY MARRIED PRODUCERS,

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TOLD BY PHOTOGRAPHERS
TO COME BACK

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WHEN I LOST 15 POUNDS
AND GOT A BOOB JOB,

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AND A PLETHORA OF OTHER
UNCOMFORTABLE EXPERIENCES,

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ALL WHILE STILL BEING
A TEENAGER.

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I STARTED TO REALIZE
MY ROLE IN THE WORLD

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SEEMED A LITTLE TOO SIMILAR TO THE
UNFORTUNATE ROLES I VVAS AUDITIONING FOR,

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AND IT WAS NOT
HOW I SAW MYSELF

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OR THE PERSON
THAT I WANTED TO BE.

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SO I QUIT ACTING
AND BOUGHT A VIDEO CAMERA

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TO TELL THE STORIES
I WANTED TO TELL,

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AND NOW I'VE BEEN MAKING
DOCUMENTARY FILMS SINCE 2008

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WHEN I WAS 21 YEARS OLD.

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<i>MOST OF MY WORK HAS BEEN ABOUT
WOMEN'S ISSUES AND SEXU ALITY.</i>

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I'VE COVERED
A RANGE OF TOPICS

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FROM THE PHENOMENON
OF PURITY BALLS,

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TO REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS,

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SINGLE MOTHERHOOD,

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AND LG BT RIGHTS.

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AFTER RELEASING MY FILM IN 2012
ABOUT MARRIAGE EQUALITY,

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I WAS AT A LOSS OF WHAT TOPIC
TO EXPLORE NEXT,

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AND THAT'S WHEN TWO HORRIFIC
STORIES BROKE THE NEWS.

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TWO STAR HIGH SCHOOL
FOOTBALL PLAYERS

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IN STEUBENVILLE, OHIO,

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<i>HAVE BEEN FOUND GUILTY OF RAPING
A WEST VIRGINIA TEENAGER.</i>

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THE VIDEO SHOWS THE FORMER
STEUBENVILLE STUDENT

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CALLOUSLY JOKING
ABOUT THE INCIDENT.

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THAT'S LIKE RAPE.
IT IS RAPE.

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- BRO.
- THEY RAPED HER.

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- BRO.
- THEY RAPED HER.

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- THIS IS THE FUNNIEST--
- THEY RAPED HER.

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OUTRAGE ACROSS INDIA
AS A 23-YEAR-OLD WOMAN,

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THE VICTIM OF ONE
OF THE MOST HORRIFIC RAPES

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INDIA HAS EVER HEARD OF.

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[NEVVSCASTER] A 90-MINUTE
HORROR FOR A 23-YEAR-OLD

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MEDICINE STUDENT ON THIS BUS.

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GANG RAPED AND BEATEN,

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HER FRIEND ASSAULTED
AND THROWN OUT OF THE BUS...

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EVERY DAY, EVERY VVOIVIAN IS
FACING VIOLENCE ON THE STREETS.

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PEOPLE ARE SCARED--

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[JAYE] I STARTED TO
RESEARCH THIS RAPE CULTURE.

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A WEBSITE CALLED
A VOICE FOR MEN POPPED UP.

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PAUL ELAM WROTE
ABOUT HOW WOMEN LONG

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TO LIVE OUT
THEIR RAPE FANTASIES,

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TO BE TAKEN BY A MAN
SHE'S NEVER SPOKEN TO,

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LET ALONE GIVEN CONSENT TO.

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AS 1 READ,
I WAS ASKING MYSELF,

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IS THIS THE RAPE APOLOGIST
THAT I'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT?

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THE VICTIM BLAMER
WHO PERPETUATES RAPE CULTURE?

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I CONTINUED TO READ
A VOICE FOR MEN'S WEBSITE,

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OFTEN STOPPING
AROUND THE HALF-WAY MARK

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IN EVERY ARTICLE,
BECAUSE I COULD ONLY READ

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SO MANY "BITCH,"
"FUCK," "FEMINAZI,"

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AND "RAPETARD"
WORDS PER MINUTE.

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BUT EVEN STILL,
I KEPT READING,

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AND THINKING,
AND READING SOME MORE.

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I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND
HOW THESE,

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WHAT I PERCEIVED TO BE
WOMEN HATERS,

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COULD HAVE
SO MANY FOLLOWERS.

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SO I DECIDED TO MEET
THESE MRAS...

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THE ONES LEADING
THE MOVEMENT,

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AND SOME OF THEIR
FOLLOWERS, TOO...

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AND THIS BEGINS MY JOURNEY

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DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE.

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[MAN ON P.A.]
THIS, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,

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IS AN HISTORIC MOMENT.

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NEVER BEFORE HAS THERE BEEN
A GATHERING OF THIS MAGNITUDE

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TO SUPPORT MEN'S
AND BOY'S ISSUES.

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WE HAVE GOT
SERIOUS PROBLEMS.

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I HAVE BEEN WORKING
IN THIS AREA,

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ADVOCATING
FOR THE RIGHTS OF...

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[CROWD SHOUTING]
MRA! GO AWAY!

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[MAN ON P.A.]
AND HERE WE GO.

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WHAT YOU'LL HEAR
IS THAT WE HATE WOMEN.

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YOU'LL HEAR THAT IT'S A BACKLASH
AGAINST WOMEN'S RIGHTS.

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YOU'LL HEAR THAT VVE'RE REGRESSIVES
THAT VVANT VVOIVIEN BACK IN THE KITCHEN

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AND MAKING SANDWICHES
AND BAREFOOT AND PREGNANT.

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YOU'RE JUST BITTER,
YOU'RE A LOSER,

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YOU'RE A WHINER,
YOU'RE UGLY,

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YOU'RE UNDESIRABLE,
YOU'RE LAZY.

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YOU'RE SCARY,
YOU MUST BE A RACIST,

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YOU MUST BE A MISOGYNIST.

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WHEN WE DO SPEAK OUT,

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WOMEN OFTEN DON'T WANT
TO HEAR WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY,

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AND SO THEN
WE'RE CALLED NAMES.

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WE'RE CALLED WHINERS.

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AND THIS IS THE VVAY PEOPLE VVHO DON'T
VVANT IVIEN TO TALK ABOUT ISSUES

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TRY TO SHUT US UP.

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[MAN ON BULLHORN]
UM, WE ALL KNOW THAT YOU GUYS

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ARE A FASCIST NAZI FRONT
GROUP OF WHITE SUPREMACISTS,

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NO OTHER WAY
TO OPENLY ORGANIZE

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OTHER THAN CALLING YOURSELVES
A MEN'S RIGHTS GROUP.

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[MAN]
YEAH!

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"WE'RE SOMEHOW DISEMPOWERED
BECAUSE WE'RE WHITE MEN."

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MAYBE IT'S JUST BECAUSE
YOU'RE PATHETIC.

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WE'RE HERE TO FIGHT
HOW MISOGYNISTIC ASSHOLES

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THINK THEY HAVE THE RIGHT
TO OPPRESS WOMEN.

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WHITE MEN ARE STARTING
TO FEEL MISPLACED

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BECAUSE WOMEN
ARE SHARING SPACE.

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IT'S DISGUSTING,
AND JUST GROW THE FUCK UP

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AND DON'T CONFUSE SUFFRAGE
WITH OPPRESSION.

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EVERYONE SUFFERS.
IT'S UNIVERSAL.

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I AM A MAN
AND I NEED FEMINISM.

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<i>[MEN CHANTING] WE'RE FEMINISTS'.
WE'RE FABULOUS'.!</i>

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WE'RE HERE! WE'RE QUEER!

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[MAN]
AND IT IS CRYSTAL CLEAR

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THAT THE PROBLEMS
FOR MEN AND BOYS ARE REAL.

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[CHANTING CONTINUES]

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I WOULD LIKE
TO TURN THE MICROPHONE

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OVER TO PAUL ELAM
OF A VOICE FOR MEN

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FOR SOME WORDS.

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[APPLAUSE]

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[MAN]
WHOO!

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THIS IS A HISTORIC DAY.

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I'VE NEVER SEEN
A GATHERING LIKE THIS

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OUT OF CONCERN FOR
THE GENERAL STATE OF AFFAIRS

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FOR MEN AND BOYS
IN THIS CULTURE.

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TRYING TO ARTICULATE
THE ENTIRE PLATFORM

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OF THE MEN'S RIGHTS MOVEMENT

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IS KINDA LIKE TRYING
TO UNDERSTAND A SNOW DRIFT

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ONE SNOWFLAKE AT A TIME.

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IT'S A VERY,
VERY COMPLICATED MATTER.

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JUST CONSIDER THIS,

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THAT 93°/o OF WORKPLACE
FATALITIES ARE MEN.

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FOUR OF FIVE SUICIDES
ARE MEN.

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MEN ARE DROPPING OUT
OF HIGHER EDUCATION

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AT VERY ALARMING RATES.

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WE'RE DOWN TO 38°/o NOW
OF COLLEGE STUDENTS ARE MEN,

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AND IT'S DROPPING RAPIDLY.

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MALE SUICIDE, MALE ABUSE,
MALE UNEMPLOYMENT,

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MALE HOMELESSNESS,
MALE FAILURE IN EDUCATION,

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MALE HEALTH ISSUES.

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YOU GOT THE PATERNITY
FRONT ISSUE,

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AND THE WRONGFUL
PATERNITY ISSUE,

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THE FALSE ALLEGATION ISSUE.

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MEN ARE SENTENCED
TO 63°/o MORE PRISON TIME

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FOR THE SAME CRIME AS WOMEN.

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THEY'RE LESS LIKELY
TO SEE A DOCTOR.

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THEY'RE LESS LIKELY
TO HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE.

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THE FAMILY COURT SYSTEM
TRULY IS BIASED AGAINST MEN.

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I MEAN, THERE'S JUST
NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

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IT'S REALLY THE PRO CHOICE
FOR WOMEN ONLY MOVEMENT,

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BECAUSE MEN-- THEY'RE DENYING
MEN ANY KIND OF CHOICE

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ONCE A CHILD IS CONCEIVED.

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HER BODY,
HER CHOICE, RIGHT?

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THINK ABOUT MEN.

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00:11:51,295 --> 00:11:54,047
HIS BODY, HIS CHOICE?
NOT SO MUCH.

214
00:11:54,256 --> 00:11:55,382
BECAUSE THE U.S. GOVERNMENT

215
00:11:55,591 --> 00:11:56,967
DOES NOT WANT
TO SEND YOU TO DIE.

216
00:11:57,176 --> 00:12:00,095
IT WOULD RATHER
SEND ME TO DIE.

217
00:12:00,304 --> 00:12:02,306
[ELAM] YOUNG IVIEN THAT
ARE FAILING TO LAUNCH.

218
00:12:02,514 --> 00:12:04,641
THEY'RE STAYING
IN THEIR HOMES OF ORIGIN

219
00:12:04,850 --> 00:12:07,394
FAR PAST THE TIME THAT
WE WOULD NORMALLY EXPECT THEM

220
00:12:07,603 --> 00:12:09,021
TO INDIVIDUATE
AND MOVE OUT

221
00:12:09,229 --> 00:12:10,856
AND GO LIVE THEIR LIVES.

222
00:12:11,064 --> 00:12:12,566
WE HAVE VIDEO GAME ADDICTION.

223
00:12:12,774 --> 00:12:13,984
WE HAVE PORNOGRAPHY ADDICTION.

224
00:12:14,193 --> 00:12:16,987
WE HAVE
THE ABUSE OF YOUNG BOYS

225
00:12:17,196 --> 00:12:19,281
WITH DRUGS LIKE RITALIN
TO MANAGE THEIR BEHAVIOR.

226
00:12:19,489 --> 00:12:20,782
[MAN]
ALMOST ALL VICTIMS

227
00:12:20,991 --> 00:12:23,368
OF AUTISM SPECTRUM DISORDERS
ARE BOYS.

228
00:12:23,577 --> 00:12:25,829
BOYS ARE MOST LIKELY
TO BE HOMELESS,

229
00:12:26,038 --> 00:12:27,456
MOST LIKELY TO GET CANCER,

230
00:12:27,664 --> 00:12:30,375
MOST LIKELY TO DIE YOUNG
OF EVERY MAJOR CAUSE,

231
00:12:30,584 --> 00:12:32,711
MOST LIKELY TO BE ARRESTED,
PROSECUTED,

232
00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,463
IMPRISONED,
AND EVEN EXECUTED

233
00:12:34,671 --> 00:12:36,048
WHILE BEING
COMPLETELY INNOCENT.

234
00:12:36,256 --> 00:12:38,508
IT DOESN'T MATTER
WHAT THEIR RACE IS.

235
00:12:38,717 --> 00:12:40,510
IT DOESN'T MATTER
WHAT THEIR ETHNICITY IS.

236
00:12:40,719 --> 00:12:42,429
IT DOESN'T MATTER
WHAT THEIR RELIGIOUS

237
00:12:42,638 --> 00:12:44,223
OR NON-RELIGIOUS VIEWS ARE.

238
00:12:44,431 --> 00:12:47,059
IT DOESN'T MATTER
IF THEY'RE GAY OR STRAIGHT.

239
00:12:47,267 --> 00:12:49,728
MEN AND BOYS ARE IN CRISIS

240
00:12:49,937 --> 00:12:52,231
AND THEY NEED YOUR HELP
AND THEY NEED YOUR SUPPORT

241
00:12:52,439 --> 00:12:55,234
BECAUSE THEY ARE
HUMAN BEINGS, TOO,

242
00:12:55,442 --> 00:12:58,278
AND YOU WILL NOT
SHAME ME OR ANYBODY HERE

243
00:12:58,487 --> 00:13:01,114
INTO SILENCE
ABOUT IT ANYMORE.

244
00:13:01,323 --> 00:13:03,242
[CHEERS]

245
00:13:05,619 --> 00:13:08,497
BUT IF YOU START
TO TALK ABOUT THOSE ISSUES

246
00:13:08,705 --> 00:13:11,458
AND ADDRESS THEM
IN TERMS OF HOW THEY AFFECT

247
00:13:11,667 --> 00:13:13,377
MEN AND BOYS AS A GROUP,

248
00:13:13,585 --> 00:13:16,213
PEOPLE GET HOSTILE ABOUT IT.

249
00:13:16,421 --> 00:13:20,133
THE IDEA IS THAT MEN
HAVE ALL THE RIGHTS.

250
00:13:20,342 --> 00:13:21,969
THEY'VE ALWAYS HAD THE POWER.

251
00:13:22,177 --> 00:13:24,263
BUT IF THAT'S TRUE,

252
00:13:24,471 --> 00:13:26,890
WHY CAN'T MEN
TALK ABOUT THEIR PROBLEMS?

253
00:13:27,099 --> 00:13:28,475
AND THAT'S WHAT REALLY GOT ME

254
00:13:28,684 --> 00:13:30,811
INTERESTED IN THIS
TO BEGIN WITH.

255
00:13:34,439 --> 00:13:37,859
[JAYE] SHORTLY AFTER I BEGAN
FILMING MEN'S RIGHTS ACTIVISTS,

256
00:13:38,068 --> 00:13:42,406
I REALIZED MY OWN VIEWS
WERE BEING CHALLENGED.

257
00:13:42,614 --> 00:13:45,826
I KEPT A VIDEO DIARY
THROUGHOUT FILMING,

258
00:13:46,034 --> 00:13:47,953
AND I'VE DECIDED TO SHARE

259
00:13:48,161 --> 00:13:51,039
SOME OF THOSE DIARIES
WITH YOU.

260
00:13:51,248 --> 00:13:54,459
I REALLY DO FEEL LIKE LEARNING
ABOUT THE MEN'S MOVEMENT

261
00:13:54,668 --> 00:13:56,295
AND THEIR SPECIFIC ISSUES,

262
00:13:56,503 --> 00:14:00,299
THE ISSUES
THAT THEY HAVE ISSUE WITH,

263
00:14:00,507 --> 00:14:03,885
IT'S HARD FOR ME
TO COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THEM

264
00:14:04,094 --> 00:14:06,888
AND...

265
00:14:07,097 --> 00:14:09,349
JUST AUTOMATICALLY
FEEL WELCOME

266
00:14:09,558 --> 00:14:11,059
IN THAT SPACE OF TALKING
ABOUT THESE ISSUES.

267
00:14:11,268 --> 00:14:12,811
BECAUSE AT LEAST
WITH FEMINISM,

268
00:14:13,020 --> 00:14:14,521
WHENEVER I HEARD
ABOUT THE ISSUES

269
00:14:14,730 --> 00:14:16,356
THAT FEMINISTS
WERE FIGHTING AGAINST,

270
00:14:16,565 --> 00:14:19,776
I ALWAYS FELT LIKE I HAD
SOMETHING TO DRAW FROM

271
00:14:19,985 --> 00:14:22,654
IN EXPERIENCE
TO BE ON BOARD WITH THAT.

272
00:14:22,863 --> 00:14:25,407
AND THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN
WHY I'VE BEEN DRAWN

273
00:14:25,615 --> 00:14:26,700
TO THE FEMINIST MOVEMENT,

274
00:14:26,908 --> 00:14:28,660
IS BECAUSE A LOT
OF WHAT THEY SPOKE ABOUT

275
00:14:28,869 --> 00:14:30,329
I HAD PERSONAL
EXPERIENCES WITH.

276
00:14:30,537 --> 00:14:31,747
AND WITH THE MEN'S MOVEMENT,

277
00:14:31,955 --> 00:14:34,207
I HAVE VERY LITTLE
PERSONAL EXPERIENCES

278
00:14:34,416 --> 00:14:35,959
WITH THE ISSUES
THAT THEY TALK ABOUT.

279
00:14:47,137 --> 00:14:51,600
<i>[MAN] A CAB DRIVER WHO IS
DRIVING A CAB 7O HOURS A WEEK</i>

280
00:14:51,808 --> 00:14:54,353
WAS NOT SAYING,
"I AM EARNING THIS MONEY

281
00:14:54,561 --> 00:14:56,605
TO HAVE POWER OVER MY WIFE."

282
00:14:56,813 --> 00:14:58,565
HE WAS EARNING THIS MONEY

283
00:14:58,774 --> 00:15:01,068
EVEN THOUGH IT TOOK POWER
AWAY FROM HIS LIFE.

284
00:15:01,276 --> 00:15:04,654
HE WAS DOING THAT SO HIS CHILD
WOULDN'T HAVE TO DRIVE THAT CAB.

285
00:15:09,159 --> 00:15:10,702
THE GARBAGE COLLECTOR
DOES NOT

286
00:15:10,911 --> 00:15:12,120
GET UP AT 3:00 OR 4:00
IN THE MORNING

287
00:15:12,329 --> 00:15:13,580
IN RAIN AND SLEET AND SNOW

288
00:15:13,789 --> 00:15:16,166
AND GET OUT
TO DO THE GARBAGE

289
00:15:16,375 --> 00:15:18,335
SO HE CAN HAVE MORE POWER
OVER HIS WIFE.

290
00:15:18,543 --> 00:15:20,921
THAT'S POWER HE'S LOSING
OVER HIS LIFE

291
00:15:21,129 --> 00:15:23,298
IN ORDER TO MAKE
HIS CONTRIBUTION,

292
00:15:23,507 --> 00:15:25,842
HIS SACRIFICE,
HIS WAY OF LOVING.

293
00:15:26,051 --> 00:15:30,180
AND THIS HAS BEEN TRANSLATED
INTO THE CULTURE OF

294
00:15:30,389 --> 00:15:32,599
"YOU MAKE MORE MONEY
THAN WOMEN DO,

295
00:15:32,808 --> 00:15:35,894
YOU MUST THEREFORE
HAVE MORE POWER."

296
00:15:36,103 --> 00:15:37,604
[REPORTER]
MEET WARREN FARRELL,

297
00:15:37,813 --> 00:15:38,980
BEST-SELLING AUTHOR

298
00:15:39,189 --> 00:15:41,566
AND SELF-STYLED
SOCIAL ANTHROPOLOGIST,

299
00:15:41,775 --> 00:15:46,947
<i>LEADING AN ASSAULT ON OUR
TRADITIONAL THINKING ABOUT MEN.</i>

300
00:15:47,155 --> 00:15:48,490
[MAN] I ASKED IVIY
GIRLFRIEND AT THE TIME

301
00:15:48,698 --> 00:15:50,575
TO BUY ME AS A GIFT,

302
00:15:50,784 --> 00:15:52,494
I THINK IT WAS FOR CHRISTMAS
OR MY BIRTHDAY,

303
00:15:52,661 --> 00:15:55,038
WARREN FARRELL'S BOOK
"THE MYTH OF MALE POWER,"

304
00:15:55,247 --> 00:15:59,042
WHICH SHE DID, AND IT JUST
CHANGED MY WHOLE LIFE.

305
00:15:59,251 --> 00:16:04,214
AND HIS PREMISE WAS WHILE WOMEN
ARE OFTEN SEEN AS SEX OBJECTS,

306
00:16:04,423 --> 00:16:08,218
MEN ARE OFTEN SEEN
AS SUCCESS OBJECTS.

307
00:16:08,427 --> 00:16:10,512
AND THIS RESONATED WITH ME.

308
00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,474
HE WROTE THIS BOOK THAT
QUESTIONED OUR NOTIONS OF POWER,

309
00:16:14,683 --> 00:16:17,102
OF WHO HAD POWER
AND WHERE IT WAS,

310
00:16:17,310 --> 00:16:19,855
AND IT QUESTIONED
THE ROLES OF MEN,

311
00:16:20,063 --> 00:16:22,441
BUT NOT THE WAY FEMINISTS

312
00:16:22,649 --> 00:16:25,652
HAD ALWAYS QUESTIONED
GENDER ROLES.

313
00:16:25,861 --> 00:16:28,113
EVERY SOCIETY THAT SURVIVED

314
00:16:28,321 --> 00:16:30,407
SURVIVED BASED ON
ITS ABILITY

315
00:16:30,615 --> 00:16:33,994
TO TRAIN ITS SONS
TO BE DISPOSABLE--

316
00:16:34,202 --> 00:16:37,038
DISPOSABLE IN WAR
AS WARRIORS,

317
00:16:37,247 --> 00:16:39,499
DISPOSABLE IN WORK
AS FIREFIGHTERS,

318
00:16:39,708 --> 00:16:44,045
AS WORKERS ON OIL RIGS
AND SO ON, COAL MINERS,

319
00:16:44,254 --> 00:16:46,715
AND INDIRECTLY, THEREFORE
DISPOSABLE AS DADS.

320
00:17:05,650 --> 00:17:07,527
WHAT HAPPENS IN MEN'S LIFE

321
00:17:07,736 --> 00:17:09,696
WHEN THEY'RE RAISED
THAT THEY'RE WORTHLESS

322
00:17:09,905 --> 00:17:11,156
UNLESS THEY'RE A PROVIDER,

323
00:17:11,364 --> 00:17:13,074
THAT THEY MUST WORK
EVEN IF THEY HAVE

324
00:17:13,283 --> 00:17:14,868
TO TAKE ON
EXTREMELY DANGEROUS WORK,

325
00:17:15,076 --> 00:17:18,246
THEY MUST GET THIS DONE
OR THEY'RE USELESS AS MEN?

326
00:17:18,455 --> 00:17:20,832
THAT IS VERY,
VERY POWERFUL STUFF.

327
00:17:21,082 --> 00:17:23,627
SEE, FEMINISM
DID SEE ACCURATELY

328
00:17:23,835 --> 00:17:25,921
THAT WE VALUE MALE WORK

329
00:17:26,087 --> 00:17:28,840
MORE THAN WE VALUE
FEMALE WORK.

330
00:17:29,049 --> 00:17:31,927
BUT THERE'S ALSO THE ISSUE

331
00:17:32,135 --> 00:17:34,012
THAT WE VALUE FEMALE LIFE

332
00:17:34,221 --> 00:17:35,805
MORE THAN WE VALUE
MALE LIFE.

333
00:18:03,041 --> 00:18:05,877
EVEN WHEN THAT PLANE
WENT DOWN IN NEW YORK CITY

334
00:18:06,086 --> 00:18:07,504
A FEW YEARS AGO AND,
YOU KNOW,

335
00:18:07,712 --> 00:18:09,005
THE PILOT WAS A HERO

336
00:18:09,214 --> 00:18:11,049
FOR THE WAY HE LANDED IT
AND SAVED EVERYBODY...

337
00:18:11,258 --> 00:18:13,802
<i>[REPORTER] WORD ARRIVED OVER
THE CITY-WIDE FIRE FREQUENCY</i>

338
00:18:14,010 --> 00:18:16,346
THAT A COMMERCIAL JET LINER
WAS IN THE WATER

339
00:18:16,555 --> 00:18:19,349
WITH 155 PEOPLE ON BOARD.

340
00:18:19,558 --> 00:18:21,351
THEN,
OVER THE NEXT FEW MINUTES,

341
00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,895
THE DOORS OPENED,
LIFE VESTS WERE INFLATED,

342
00:18:24,104 --> 00:18:26,147
AND, WOMEN
AND CHILDREN FIRST,

343
00:18:26,356 --> 00:18:27,983
EVERYONE GOT OFF THAT PLANE.

344
00:18:28,191 --> 00:18:29,693
THEY SAVED
ALL THE WOMEN FIRST.

345
00:18:29,901 --> 00:18:31,820
THAT'S STILL-- WHEN I WENT
ON A CRUISE, YOU KNOW,

346
00:18:32,028 --> 00:18:35,615
THERE'S STILL WOMEN INTO
THE LIFE BOATS FIRST.

347
00:18:35,824 --> 00:18:37,826
NOT BECAUSE YOU'RE A MAN

348
00:18:38,034 --> 00:18:41,788
SO YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SWIM
HALFWAY ACROSS THE OCEAN,

349
00:18:41,997 --> 00:18:44,124
BUT BECAUSE YOU'RE A MAN
YOU'RE EXPENDABLE.

350
00:18:46,918 --> 00:18:49,588
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT NOT JUST
THE GLASS CEILINGS,

351
00:18:49,796 --> 00:18:51,256
BUT ALSO THE GLASS CELLARS.

352
00:18:51,464 --> 00:18:53,341
AND, PAUL,
I THINK AS YOU WERE SAYING,

353
00:18:53,550 --> 00:18:55,802
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT MEN
JUST NOT ONLY AS HUMAN DOINGS,

354
00:18:56,011 --> 00:18:57,387
BUT ALSO AS HUMAN BEINGS.

355
00:18:57,596 --> 00:19:00,056
WHEN YOU SURVIVE BECAUSE
SOMEBODY ELSE IS WILLING TO DIE

356
00:19:00,265 --> 00:19:01,808
LIKE IN WAR,

357
00:19:02,017 --> 00:19:04,686
THEN THAT--
YOU'RE IMMUNE TO THE PAIN

358
00:19:04,894 --> 00:19:06,229
OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DYING

359
00:19:06,438 --> 00:19:08,023
BECAUSE YOU
HAVE AN INVESTMENT

360
00:19:08,231 --> 00:19:09,566
IN THEIR
BEING WILLING TO DIE.

361
00:19:09,774 --> 00:19:12,777
You SAY,
"1 WILL BUILD A STATUE.

362
00:19:12,986 --> 00:19:14,904
I WILL REMEMBER YOU
IN A HISTORY BOOK."

363
00:19:15,113 --> 00:19:16,990
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THAT
FROM ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE,

364
00:19:17,198 --> 00:19:18,742
THAT BUILDING OF THE STATUE

365
00:19:18,950 --> 00:19:19,993
OR REMEMBERING YOU
IN A HISTORY BOOK

366
00:19:20,201 --> 00:19:23,830
IS A BRIBE
TO BE WILLING TO DIE

367
00:19:24,039 --> 00:19:25,957
SO THAT I CAN LIVE.

368
00:19:29,753 --> 00:19:33,840
[VVARREN] BOTH SEXES IN THE
AREA VVHERE THEY ARE REJECTED

369
00:19:34,049 --> 00:19:37,469
TEND TO TURN WHAT REJECTS THEM
INTO AN OBJECT.

370
00:19:37,677 --> 00:19:40,513
SO THE AREA WHERE MEN--

371
00:19:40,722 --> 00:19:43,850
I'M WATCHING THIS,
UM, LECTURE

372
00:19:44,059 --> 00:19:47,020
THAT WARREN FARRELL'S
GIVING IN THE '90s.

373
00:19:47,228 --> 00:19:48,605
I SEE SOME WOMEN IN THE CROWD,

374
00:19:48,813 --> 00:19:50,815
AND A LOT OF THEM
HAVE THEIR HANDS FOLDED,

375
00:19:51,024 --> 00:19:54,819
AND THERE
IS A LITTLE BIT OF...

376
00:19:57,197 --> 00:20:00,200
UNCOMFORTABLENESS...

377
00:20:00,408 --> 00:20:01,993
BY BEING A WOMAN

378
00:20:02,202 --> 00:20:04,037
IN A CROWD OF PEOPLE

379
00:20:04,245 --> 00:20:08,458
WHILE THE SPEAKER'S TALKING
ABOUT HOW MEN ARE OPPRESSED

380
00:20:08,667 --> 00:20:11,586
AND WOMEN HAVE IT SO GREAT.

381
00:20:11,795 --> 00:20:17,258
IT KINDA PUTS YOU
ON THE DEFENSIVE, AS A WOMAN.

382
00:20:17,467 --> 00:20:20,679
AND UNDERSTANDING
THAT I FEEL THAT WAY

383
00:20:20,887 --> 00:20:22,764
MAKES ME WONDER

384
00:20:22,931 --> 00:20:27,435
ARE MEN HAVING
THEIR ARMS CROSSED

385
00:20:27,644 --> 00:20:29,437
LISTENING
TO A FEMINIST SPEAKER

386
00:20:29,604 --> 00:20:31,189
TALK ABOUT HOW MEN
HAVE ALL THE POWER

387
00:20:31,398 --> 00:20:33,441
AND WOMEN ARE OPPRESSED?

388
00:20:33,650 --> 00:20:37,070
ARE MEN FEELING LIKE,

389
00:20:37,278 --> 00:20:39,114
"WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

390
00:20:39,322 --> 00:20:43,284
I DON'T HAVE POWER,
AND WE HAVE IT PRETTY SHITTY

391
00:20:43,493 --> 00:20:45,036
ON THIS SIDE
OF THE GRASS, TOO"?

392
00:21:02,679 --> 00:21:04,639
[MEN]
WOMEN HOLD UP HALF THE SKY!

393
00:21:04,848 --> 00:21:06,641
WOMEN HOLD UP HALF THE SKY!

394
00:21:06,850 --> 00:21:08,810
WOMEN HOLD UP HALF THE SKY!

395
00:21:09,018 --> 00:21:10,311
WOMEN HOLD UP HALF THE SKY!

396
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,147
[WOMAN]
FUCK WARREN FARRELL!

397
00:21:12,355 --> 00:21:13,732
[MAN]
FUCK WARREN FARRELL!

398
00:21:13,940 --> 00:21:15,442
[ALL CHANTING]
FUCK WARREN FARRELL!

399
00:21:15,650 --> 00:21:17,152
FUCK WARREN FARRELL!

400
00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:18,737
FUCK WARREN FARRELL!

401
00:21:18,945 --> 00:21:20,488
FUCK WARREN FARRELL!

402
00:21:20,697 --> 00:21:22,073
FUCK WARREN FARRELL!

403
00:21:22,282 --> 00:21:24,743
[JAYE]
IN 2012, DR. WARREN FARRELL

404
00:21:24,951 --> 00:21:26,745
WAS SPEAKING ON BEHALF
OF MEN'S ISSUES

405
00:21:26,953 --> 00:21:29,914
AT THE UNIVERSITY
OF TORONTO IN CANADA.

406
00:21:32,292 --> 00:21:35,962
A FEMINIST GROUP
PROTESTED THE EVENT.

407
00:21:36,171 --> 00:21:37,547
<i>[W OMAN] ...BE FUCKING
ASHAMED OF YOURSELF.</i>

408
00:21:37,756 --> 00:21:41,342
YOU'RE FUCKING SCUM.
YOU ARE FUCKING SCUM.

409
00:21:41,551 --> 00:21:42,886
FUCKING RAPE APOLOGIST,

410
00:21:43,094 --> 00:21:46,931
INCEST-SUPPORTING,
WOMAN-HATING FUCKING SCUM.

411
00:21:51,102 --> 00:21:52,645
YOU'RE FUCKING SCUM.
YEAH, JUST ANOTHER--

412
00:21:57,525 --> 00:21:59,360
YOU KNOW WHAT, THOUGH?
WHY WOULD YOU PAY MONEY

413
00:21:59,569 --> 00:22:01,279
TO FUCKING SUPPORT
A FUCKING RAPE APOLOGIST

414
00:22:01,488 --> 00:22:02,906
IF YOU WEREN'T FUCKING ONE?

415
00:22:03,114 --> 00:22:04,616
[MAN]
I NEVER HEARD HIM SAYING...

416
00:22:04,824 --> 00:22:07,494
WELL, IT--
FUCKING SCUM!

417
00:22:10,079 --> 00:22:12,373
[CROVVD] VVHO DO YOU SERVE?
VVHO DO YOU PROTECT?

418
00:22:12,582 --> 00:22:15,168
WHO DO YOU SERVE?
WHO DO YOU PROTECT?

419
00:22:15,376 --> 00:22:17,253
NO! FUCK!
THEY'RE FUCKING SCUM!

420
00:22:17,462 --> 00:22:18,546
FUCK YOU!

421
00:22:19,964 --> 00:22:21,800
FUCK YOU!

422
00:22:22,008 --> 00:22:24,302
GET A REAL FUCKING JOB.

423
00:22:24,511 --> 00:22:26,387
GET OUT OF HERE.

424
00:22:26,596 --> 00:22:31,142
[ALL SHOUTING]

425
00:22:31,351 --> 00:22:36,022
[WHISTLE BLOWING]

426
00:22:36,231 --> 00:22:38,483
<i>[CROWD] THIS 1S WHAT MEN'S
RIGHTS LOOK LIKE'.!</i>

427
00:22:38,691 --> 00:22:40,944
THIS IS WHAT
MEN'S RIGHTS LOOK LIKE!

428
00:22:41,152 --> 00:22:43,488
THIS IS WHAT MEN'S RIGHTS
LOOK LIKE!

429
00:22:43,696 --> 00:22:46,282
THIS IS WHAT
MEN'S RIGHTS LOOK LIKE!

430
00:22:46,491 --> 00:22:48,910
THIS IS WHAT MEN'S RIGHTS
LOOK LIKE!

431
00:22:49,118 --> 00:22:51,663
THIS IS WHAT
MEN'S RIGHTS LOOK LIKE!

432
00:22:51,871 --> 00:22:54,374
THIS IS WHAT MEN'S RIGHTS
LOOK LIKE!

433
00:23:19,899 --> 00:23:22,068
[DOORBELL RINGS]

434
00:23:23,820 --> 00:23:26,197
- HI. HOW ARE YOU?
- WARREN, I'M CASSIE.

435
00:23:26,406 --> 00:23:28,867
<i>YOU' RE CASSIE? OH, FOR SOME
REASON 1 THOUGHT YOU WERE A MALE.</i>

436
00:23:29,075 --> 00:23:31,995
I'M JUST DELIGHTED
THAT YOU'RE A FEMALE.

437
00:23:32,203 --> 00:23:33,663
WELL, THANK YOU.

438
00:23:33,872 --> 00:23:35,456
VERY GLAD TO MEET YOU.
COME ON IN.

439
00:23:35,665 --> 00:23:37,667
- THANK YOU.
- THANK YOU.

440
00:23:37,876 --> 00:23:39,961
<i>[REPORTER] BUT FARRELL WASN'T
ALWAYS so ATTENTIVE To MEN.</i>

441
00:23:40,169 --> 00:23:44,465
IN FACT, FOR YEARS, HE FOCUSED ALMOST
EXCLUSIVELY ON VVOIVIEN'S ISSUES,

442
00:23:44,674 --> 00:23:46,050
RUBBING SHOULDERS
WITH FEMINIST LEADERS

443
00:23:46,259 --> 00:23:47,802
LIKE GLORIA STEINEM.

444
00:23:48,011 --> 00:23:50,013
AND HE'S STILL
A CARD-CARRYING MEMBER

445
00:23:50,221 --> 00:23:52,974
OF THE NATIONAL
ORGANIZATION FOR WOMEN.

446
00:23:53,141 --> 00:23:55,810
I BELIEVE
THAT WOMEN CANNOT HEAR

447
00:23:56,019 --> 00:23:58,021
WHAT MEN DO NOT SAY.

448
00:23:58,229 --> 00:24:00,523
[REPORTER] AND HE'S GOT A LOT
To SAY To BOTH MEN AND VVOMEN

449
00:24:00,732 --> 00:24:02,066
IN HIS PROVOCATIVE NEW BOOK,

450
00:24:02,275 --> 00:24:04,485
"THE MYTH OF MALE POWER."

451
00:24:04,694 --> 00:24:06,863
[WARREN] I WAS MAKING
A VERY SIGNIFICANT

452
00:24:07,071 --> 00:24:08,865
AMOUNT OF MONEY
SPEAKING AROUND THE WORLD

453
00:24:09,073 --> 00:24:11,326
ON BEHALF
OF WOMEN'S ISSUES ALONE.

454
00:24:11,492 --> 00:24:13,536
I WENT THROUGH A PERIOD
OF FORMING MEN'S GROUPS.

455
00:24:13,745 --> 00:24:15,371
AND THEN
WHEN I LISTENED TO THEM,

456
00:24:15,580 --> 00:24:17,498
I THOUGHT, "WELL, GEE,
THIS WILL BE REALLY HELPFUL

457
00:24:17,707 --> 00:24:19,751
TO PRESENT TO AUDIENCES
SO THAT THEY CAN UNDERSTAND

458
00:24:19,959 --> 00:24:21,711
NOT ONLY WOMEN'S SIDE,
BUT MEN'S SIDE, TOO,

459
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,047
'CAUSE I WAS REALLY TOTALLY
IN THE FEMINIST'S CAMP.

460
00:24:24,255 --> 00:24:27,342
AND IMMEDIATELY I SAW
MY STANDING OVATIONS DROP.

461
00:24:27,550 --> 00:24:29,093
I STARTED HEARING
THAT THERE WAS PEOPLE SAYING,

462
00:24:29,302 --> 00:24:32,555
"DON'T INVITE HIM THERE
TO SPEAK WITH US."

463
00:24:32,764 --> 00:24:34,223
AND PRETTY SOON I HAD,
YOU KNOW,

464
00:24:34,432 --> 00:24:37,393
VERY FEW COLLEGE AND UNIVERSITY
SPEAKING ENGAGEMENTS.

465
00:24:37,602 --> 00:24:39,854
HOW DID YOU ORIGINALLY
GET INVOLVED WITH FEMINISM?

466
00:24:40,063 --> 00:24:41,564
WHERE DID THAT ALL BEGIN?

467
00:24:41,773 --> 00:24:43,191
I WAS DOING MY DOCTORATE

468
00:24:43,399 --> 00:24:47,570
AT POLITICAL SCIENCE AT NYU
IN THE LATE '60s,

469
00:24:47,779 --> 00:24:49,614
AND THE WOMEN'S
MOVEMENT SURFACED.

470
00:24:59,999 --> 00:25:02,168
AND I STARTED TO SAY,

471
00:25:02,377 --> 00:25:05,004
"THIS IS THE MOST EXCITING
THING I'VE EVER HEARD."

472
00:25:05,213 --> 00:25:07,757
BECAUSE I'D HEARD
OF CIVIL RIGHTS, GAY RIGHTS,

473
00:25:07,966 --> 00:25:09,759
BUT SUDDENLY
WOMEN WERE SAYING,

474
00:25:09,968 --> 00:25:11,761
"I DON'T WANNA BE CONFINED
TO JUST BEING

475
00:25:11,970 --> 00:25:13,554
A HOMEMAKER, A SECRETARY."

476
00:25:13,763 --> 00:25:16,057
SO IT'S LIKE, "WHY SHOULDN'T
WOMEN BE ENCOURAGED

477
00:25:16,265 --> 00:25:17,892
TO DO EVERYTHING
THEY POSSIBLY CAN DO?"

478
00:25:18,101 --> 00:25:19,268
AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME,

479
00:25:19,477 --> 00:25:21,980
I SAW A LOT OF WOMEN
MARRYING MEN

480
00:25:22,188 --> 00:25:24,273
THAT THEY WEREN'T
COMPLETELY IN LOVE WITH,

481
00:25:24,482 --> 00:25:27,777
BUT THE MAN EARNED
A FAIR AMOUNT.

482
00:25:27,986 --> 00:25:30,405
SO I THOUGHT, THAT'S JUST
A FORM OF PROSTITUTION

483
00:25:30,613 --> 00:25:31,948
EXTENDED OVER A LIFETIME.

484
00:25:32,156 --> 00:25:33,992
HOW DEPRESSED
THAT MUST MAKE A WOMAN.

485
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,576
AND IT'S NOT GONNA
BE GOOD FOR A MAN EITHER.

486
00:25:35,785 --> 00:25:37,912
HE NEVER KNOWS WHETHER
HE'S LOVED FOR WHO HE IS

487
00:25:38,121 --> 00:25:39,288
OR LOVED FOR WHAT HE HAS.

488
00:25:39,497 --> 00:25:41,958
AND HE'S AFRAID
TO GIVE UP PRODUCING

489
00:25:42,166 --> 00:25:44,002
BECAUSE HE'S AFRAID
TO LOSE LOVE.

490
00:25:44,210 --> 00:25:46,045
AND SO WOMEN
WHO WERE SUCCESSFUL TO ME

491
00:25:46,254 --> 00:25:47,714
APPEARED TO BE WOMEN
WHO WOULD FREE MEN

492
00:25:47,922 --> 00:25:49,465
FROM HAVING TO BE ALL,
YOU KNOW,

493
00:25:49,674 --> 00:25:51,968
WRAPPED UP IN JUST
BEING THE ONLY BREAD WINNER,

494
00:25:52,176 --> 00:25:54,887
AND SUPPORTING ONE, TWO,
THREE, FOUR, FIVE PEOPLE.

495
00:25:55,096 --> 00:25:57,098
IT'S ONE THING
TO SUPPORT YOURSELF.

496
00:25:57,306 --> 00:25:59,058
WHEN YOU'RE SUPPORTING
FIVE PEOPLE,

497
00:25:59,267 --> 00:26:01,310
YOU DON'T HAVE THE FREEDOM
TO QUESTION YOUR BOSS,

498
00:26:01,519 --> 00:26:03,980
BECAUSE YOU'RE
SUPPORTING FIVE PEOPLE.

499
00:26:07,525 --> 00:26:09,068
[HAYWARD]
THE FIRST ISSUE OF FEMINISM

500
00:26:09,277 --> 00:26:12,488
WAS TO SAY,
"JUST BECAUSE I'M A WOMAN,

501
00:26:12,697 --> 00:26:15,616
MAYBE I DON'T WANNA SPEND
MY LIFE RAISING CHILDREN."

502
00:26:15,825 --> 00:26:19,078
YOU KNOW, "DON'T FORCE ME INTO
THAT ROLE AGAINST MY WILL."

503
00:26:19,287 --> 00:26:20,621
SO THEY LOOKED AT MEN
AND SAID,

504
00:26:20,830 --> 00:26:21,748
"WELL, YOU'RE NOT FORCED
TO RAISE CHILDREN.

505
00:26:21,956 --> 00:26:23,374
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE.

506
00:26:23,583 --> 00:26:24,834
BUT FOR MEN,
THE TRADITIONAL SEX ROLE

507
00:26:25,043 --> 00:26:26,252
WAS NOT RAISING CHILDREN.

508
00:26:26,461 --> 00:26:27,795
FOR us,
THE TRADITIONAL SEX ROLE

509
00:26:28,004 --> 00:26:30,048
WAS TO BE A PROVIDER,
A PROTECTOR,

510
00:26:30,256 --> 00:26:33,051
AND TO INITIATE RELATIONSHIPS.

511
00:26:33,259 --> 00:26:35,303
EACH OF US
HAS TRADITIONAL SEX ROLES.

512
00:26:35,511 --> 00:26:37,388
DON'T FORCE US TO CARRY OUT

513
00:26:37,597 --> 00:26:40,600
THOSE TRADITIONAL SEX ROLES.

514
00:26:40,808 --> 00:26:44,270
WE HAVE THE SAME RULES
SET UP FOR MEN

515
00:26:44,479 --> 00:26:46,647
THAT THEY'VE ALWAYS LIVED BY,

516
00:26:46,856 --> 00:26:49,692
THAT YOU NEED TO PROTECT
AND PROVIDE AT ANY COST.

517
00:26:49,901 --> 00:26:53,821
BUT WE'VE CHANGED EVERYTHING
WHERE IT CONCERNS WOMEN.

518
00:26:54,030 --> 00:26:55,448
THEY NOW HAVE ACCESS

519
00:26:55,656 --> 00:26:58,701
TO EVERYTHING MEN
HAVE ALWAYS HAD ACCESS TO--

520
00:26:58,910 --> 00:27:03,289
TO EDUCATION, TO WORK,
TO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO,

521
00:27:03,498 --> 00:27:07,460
BUT THEY'RE NOT THE ONES
DRIVING THE SEMIS

522
00:27:07,668 --> 00:27:10,880
AND THEY'RE NOT THE ONES
IN THE COAL MINES.

523
00:27:11,089 --> 00:27:13,508
YOU DON'T HEAR THE NATIONAL
ORGANIZATION FOR WOMEN

524
00:27:13,716 --> 00:27:17,887
COMPLAINING THAT THERE IS JUST
NOT ENOUGH FEMALE DITCH DIGGERS.

525
00:27:18,096 --> 00:27:20,807
IT IS STILL MEN
CARRYING THE LION'S SHARE

526
00:27:21,015 --> 00:27:25,311
FOR WHAT IT TAKES TO OPERATE
AND MAINTAIN THIS SOCIETY,

527
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,563
AND IT IS STILL
THE EXPECTATION

528
00:27:27,772 --> 00:27:29,565
THAT IF SOMEBODY'S
GONNA GO DOWN WITH THE SHIP,

529
00:27:29,774 --> 00:27:31,442
IT'S GONNA BE MEN.

530
00:27:38,908 --> 00:27:42,703
FLEXIBILITY IN ROLES IS WHERE
WE SHOULD BE ALL HEADED.

531
00:27:42,912 --> 00:27:45,790
ANY MEN'S RIGHTS ACTIVISTS
THAT I WOULD SUPPORT

532
00:27:45,998 --> 00:27:48,417
WOULD SUPPORT THE PORTIONS
OF THE WOMEN'S MOVEMENT

533
00:27:48,626 --> 00:27:51,587
THAT IS ENCOURAGING WOMEN

534
00:27:51,796 --> 00:27:54,257
TO HAVE MORE
FLEXIBILITY IN ROLES.

535
00:27:54,465 --> 00:27:56,759
SO WHERE DO
THE MEN'S MOVEMENT

536
00:27:56,968 --> 00:27:59,345
AND FEMINISM DISAGREE?

537
00:27:59,554 --> 00:28:02,431
WELL, ONLY ON
THE FUNDAMENTAL BELIEF

538
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,226
THAT THE WOMEN'S MOVEMENT

539
00:28:05,434 --> 00:28:07,979
SAYS MEN ARE THE OPPRESSORS,

540
00:28:08,187 --> 00:28:11,941
THAT THEY-- WE ARE INVOLVED
IN A PATRIARCHAL WORLD

541
00:28:12,150 --> 00:28:17,363
IN WHICH MEN INVENTED
THE RULES TO BENEFIT MEN

542
00:28:17,572 --> 00:28:19,949
AT THE EXPENSE OF WOMEN.

543
00:28:20,158 --> 00:28:23,035
[JAYE] BUT DON'T VVE
LIVE IN A PATRIARCHY,

544
00:28:23,244 --> 00:28:26,330
WHEN MOST
OF THE WORLD'S NATIONS

545
00:28:26,539 --> 00:28:29,500
STILL HAVE NEVER HAD
A FEMALE LEADER...

546
00:28:40,011 --> 00:28:42,388
AND LESS THAN 5°/o OF CEOS

547
00:28:42,597 --> 00:28:45,641
OF FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES
ARE WOMEN?

548
00:28:49,103 --> 00:28:52,148
YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS
IN A LARGER PERSPECTIVE.

549
00:28:52,356 --> 00:28:55,776
PATRIARCHY IS THE RESULT
OF GENDER ROLES

550
00:28:55,985 --> 00:28:57,862
AND NOT THE VICE VERSA.

551
00:29:02,325 --> 00:29:05,578
[HAYVVARD] TRADITIONALLY, women's
POVVER AND RESPONSIBILITY

552
00:29:05,786 --> 00:29:07,580
HAS BEEN IN
THE REPRODUCTIVE SPHERE,

553
00:29:07,788 --> 00:29:09,415
WHILE MEN'S POWER
AND RESPONSIBILITY

554
00:29:09,624 --> 00:29:11,959
WAS IN THE PRODUCTIVE SPHERE.

555
00:29:12,168 --> 00:29:14,587
YOU KNOVV, YOU HAVE TO REPRODUCE
TO CONTINUE THE SPECIES,

556
00:29:14,795 --> 00:29:16,881
AND YOU HAVE TO PRODUCE
TO FEED PEOPLE

557
00:29:17,089 --> 00:29:18,507
SO THAT THEY CAN REPRODUCE.

558
00:29:18,716 --> 00:29:20,426
SO, YOU KNOW,
IT'S LIKE THEY WORK TOGETHER.

559
00:29:29,977 --> 00:29:32,521
[FARRELL] AND MOST
CULTURES DIVVIED UP ROLES

560
00:29:32,730 --> 00:29:35,149
BECAUSE WOMEN WERE RESPONSIBLE
FOR CHILDBIRTH

561
00:29:35,358 --> 00:29:37,276
AND WERE MORE LIKELY
TO BREASTFEED.

562
00:29:37,485 --> 00:29:38,861
THEY'RE NOT MORE LIKELY TO--

563
00:29:39,070 --> 00:29:40,905
THEY DID THE BREASTFEEDING.

564
00:29:41,113 --> 00:29:44,158
THEY TENDED TO BE INVOLVED
IN THE ROLE OF RAISING CHILDREN.

565
00:29:44,367 --> 00:29:47,370
MEN TENDED TO BE INVOLVED
IN THE ROLE OF RAISING MONEY

566
00:29:47,578 --> 00:29:49,622
OR MAKING A KILLING
OF THE ANIMALS

567
00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:51,582
OR MAKING A KILLING
IN WALL STREET.

568
00:29:51,832 --> 00:29:55,253
BUT THOSE
WERE OUR OBLIGATIONS.

569
00:29:55,461 --> 00:29:57,421
SO THAT'S WHY INDUSTRY
WAS MALE DOMINATED

570
00:29:57,630 --> 00:29:59,048
AND GOVERNMENT
WAS MALE DOMINATED,

571
00:29:59,257 --> 00:30:00,925
'CAUSE THAT WAS OUR JOB.

572
00:30:01,133 --> 00:30:03,135
SO WHAT WE CALL PATRIARCHY

573
00:30:03,344 --> 00:30:07,181
IS MEN GIVING IN
TO THE EXPECTED ROLES

574
00:30:07,390 --> 00:30:08,641
THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED
TO GIVE IN TO,

575
00:30:08,849 --> 00:30:10,476
AND MANY OF THOSE ROLES
ARE VERY HARMFUL--

576
00:30:10,685 --> 00:30:14,230
WORKING EXCEPTIONALLY
LONG HOURS, DIFFICULT HOURS,

577
00:30:14,438 --> 00:30:17,066
DANGEROUS JOBS,
GETTING KILLED ON A JOB--

578
00:30:17,275 --> 00:30:20,361
EVEN POLITICS A LOT OF PEOPLE
DESCRIBE AS MASOCHISM.

579
00:30:22,446 --> 00:30:26,284
IMAGINE WHAT IT TAKES TO BE
A SUCCESSFUL POLITICIAN.

580
00:30:26,492 --> 00:30:29,495
IMAGINE HOW MUCH OF YOUR
PERSONAL LIFE THAT YOU GIVE UP,

581
00:30:29,704 --> 00:30:33,291
HOVV MUCH YOU VVORK, HOVV MUCH
PRIVACY THAT YOU SACRIFICE,

582
00:30:33,541 --> 00:30:35,876
HOW MUCH FREEDOM
IN YOUR DAY TO DAY LIFE

583
00:30:36,085 --> 00:30:37,503
THAT GOES OUT THE WINDOW.

584
00:30:37,712 --> 00:30:39,714
THERE ARE MORE MEN
WILLING TO DO THOSE THINGS

585
00:30:39,922 --> 00:30:41,716
THAN THERE ARE WOMEN.

586
00:30:41,882 --> 00:30:44,593
OH, I THINK WE GOT A PEN
FOR EVERYBODY.

587
00:30:44,802 --> 00:30:47,513
[ANGELUCCI] BUT ALSO, JUST
BECAUSE MEN ARE THE ONES,

588
00:30:47,722 --> 00:30:50,891
FOR INSTANCE,
WRITING THE LAWS IN GENERAL,

589
00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:54,145
DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE LAWS
ARE PROTECTING MEN.

590
00:30:54,353 --> 00:30:56,397
YOU HEAR ABOUT
PATRIARCHY, RIGHT?

591
00:30:56,605 --> 00:30:57,898
ALL THE EVILS OF THE WORLD
IS FROM PATRIARCHY.

592
00:30:58,107 --> 00:31:01,319
BUT WE'RE THE ONES DYING,
YOU KNOW?

593
00:31:01,527 --> 00:31:03,112
AND WE DIE FOR YOU GUYS,
YOU KNOW?

594
00:31:03,321 --> 00:31:06,324
TO PROTECT OUR FAMILIES,
OUR FRIENDS.

595
00:31:06,532 --> 00:31:09,118
IN EVERY SOCIETY
THAT'S EVER EXISTED,

596
00:31:09,327 --> 00:31:12,663
WOMEN HAVE HAD PRIVILEGE
AND PROTECTION THAT MEN DID NOT.

597
00:31:12,872 --> 00:31:17,335
FOR EXAMPLE, WE NEVER HEAR
ABOUT HOW MEN WERE EXCLUDED

598
00:31:17,543 --> 00:31:20,629
FROM THE FORCED LABOR
CONVENTION OF 1930.

599
00:31:20,838 --> 00:31:22,923
FOR YEARS,
THE FORCED LABOR CONVENTION

600
00:31:23,132 --> 00:31:26,510
WAS AN INTERNATIONAL TREATY
THAT BANNED SLAVERY,

601
00:31:26,719 --> 00:31:28,012
ENFORCED SERVITUDE,

602
00:31:28,220 --> 00:31:29,347
BUT IT MADE AN EXCEPTION

603
00:31:29,555 --> 00:31:33,100
FOR ABLE-BODIED MALES
AGES 18 TO 45.

604
00:31:34,852 --> 00:31:37,355
EVENTUALLY,
THEY GOT RID OF THAT,

605
00:31:37,563 --> 00:31:39,357
BUT THERE WAS STILL
AN EXEMPTION

606
00:31:39,565 --> 00:31:44,236
FOR PRISONERS AND MILITARY,
WHICH IS 90°/o MALE.

607
00:31:44,445 --> 00:31:48,949
STOP PRETENDING
THAT YOU'RE OPPRESSED

608
00:31:49,158 --> 00:31:51,744
AND MEN ARE YOUR OPPRESSORS.

609
00:31:51,911 --> 00:31:54,372
IT'S A LIE,
AND IT'S A HURTFUL LIE,

610
00:31:54,580 --> 00:31:56,916
AND IT'S A HATEFUL LIE,
AND IT'S WRONG.

611
00:32:15,768 --> 00:32:18,396
YOU TALK A LOT
ABOUT THE RED PILL

612
00:32:18,604 --> 00:32:20,856
IN A VOICE FOR MEN.
WHAT IS THE RED PILL?

613
00:32:21,065 --> 00:32:23,317
OH, IT'S SORT OF
A CULTURAL SLOGAN.

614
00:32:23,526 --> 00:32:26,237
IT COMES FROM THE MOVIE
"THE MATRIX"

615
00:32:26,445 --> 00:32:29,198
WHERE THE CHARACTER NEO
IS GIVEN THE CHOICE

616
00:32:29,407 --> 00:32:31,200
BETWEEN A RED PILL
AND A BLUE PILL.

617
00:32:31,409 --> 00:32:35,621
YOU TAKE THE RED PILL,
YOU STAY IN WONDERLAND

618
00:32:35,830 --> 00:32:38,416
AND I SHOW YOU HOW DEEP
THE RABBIT HOLE GOES.

619
00:32:38,666 --> 00:32:42,211
AND IF HE SWALLOWS
THE RED PILL,

620
00:32:42,420 --> 00:32:45,131
THE SCALES WILL BE PEELED BACK
FROM HIS EYES.

621
00:32:45,297 --> 00:32:49,135
HE WILL SEE EVERYTHING
THAT HE HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO SEE.

622
00:32:49,343 --> 00:32:51,887
AND IF HE TAKES THE BLUE PILL,
HE'LL JUST GO BACK TO SLEEP

623
00:32:52,096 --> 00:32:54,223
AND LIVE
IN HIS SORT OF UNAWARE,

624
00:32:54,432 --> 00:32:56,600
SEMI-COMATOSE STATE FOREVER,

625
00:32:56,809 --> 00:32:58,894
AND PROBABLY BE A LOT HAPPIER.

626
00:32:59,103 --> 00:33:00,771
IT'S A PRETTY APT ANALOGY.

627
00:33:00,980 --> 00:33:04,525
SO WHAT IS THE BLUE PILL
IN THIS WORLD?

628
00:33:04,733 --> 00:33:08,237
WELL, THE BLUE IS THE PARADIGM
THAT MOST PEOPLE LIVE BY,

629
00:33:08,446 --> 00:33:10,030
THAT MEN HAVE ALL THE POWER,

630
00:33:10,239 --> 00:33:12,241
THAT THEY'VE ALWAYS
HAD ALL THE POWER,

631
00:33:12,450 --> 00:33:15,035
THAT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
IS A PROBLEM

632
00:33:15,244 --> 00:33:17,663
THAT'S COMMITTED BY MEN
AGAINST WOMEN ONLY,

633
00:33:17,872 --> 00:33:19,373
THAT SEXUAL ASSAULTS
ARE ONLY COMMITTED

634
00:33:19,582 --> 00:33:21,667
BY MEN AGAINST WOMEN,

635
00:33:21,876 --> 00:33:23,461
THAT WOMEN
DON'T MAKE THE SAME MONEY

636
00:33:23,669 --> 00:33:26,088
FOR THE SAME WORK AS MEN.

637
00:33:26,297 --> 00:33:28,507
"TEACH MEN NOT TO RAPE.
ONLY MEN CAN STOP RAPE.

638
00:33:28,674 --> 00:33:30,259
MEN COMMIT
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

639
00:33:30,468 --> 00:33:32,303
WE NEED TO STOP
VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN--"

640
00:33:32,511 --> 00:33:35,264
INSTEAD OF JUST
STOPPING VIOLENCE.

641
00:33:35,473 --> 00:33:37,183
THAT IS FEMINIST TRAINING.

642
00:33:40,478 --> 00:33:44,482
THE MRAS...

643
00:33:44,690 --> 00:33:46,942
SAY THAT WE LIVE
IN A BLUE-PILL WORLD

644
00:33:47,151 --> 00:33:49,737
WHERE WOMEN ARE VICTIMS,
MEN ARE PERPETRATORS,

645
00:33:49,945 --> 00:33:51,864
AND IT'S ALL A LIE

646
00:33:52,031 --> 00:33:54,909
AND THAT WE'RE BRAINWASHED
TO BELIEVE THIS,

647
00:33:55,117 --> 00:33:56,285
AND THAT IT'S NOT TRUE,

648
00:33:56,494 --> 00:33:57,703
AND THAT MEN ARE SLAVES
IN THIS WORLD

649
00:33:57,912 --> 00:34:01,290
AND WOMEN ARE--

650
00:34:01,499 --> 00:34:03,834
<i>1 DON'T THINK WOMEN ARE
NECESSARILY THE PUPPET MASTERS,</i>

651
00:34:04,043 --> 00:34:08,297
BUT I THINK THEY'RE
SAYING THAT WOMEN

652
00:34:08,506 --> 00:34:12,801
HAVE THE EASY WAY OUT
AND MEN ARE--

653
00:34:13,010 --> 00:34:15,137
THEY'RE GIVEN
MEDALS AND STATUES

654
00:34:15,346 --> 00:34:17,348
AND WRITTEN
IN THE HISTORY BOOKS

655
00:34:17,556 --> 00:34:21,435
TO JUSTIFY THEM DYING
AND BEING SLAVES TO WORK

656
00:34:21,644 --> 00:34:23,812
OR BEING, UH--

657
00:34:24,021 --> 00:34:27,066
BEING USED
TO PROGRESS SOCIETIES.

658
00:34:31,195 --> 00:34:32,613
[SIGHS]

659
00:34:32,821 --> 00:34:35,741
AND I'VE JUST--
I'VE BELIEVED FOR SO LONG

660
00:34:35,950 --> 00:34:39,328
THAT-- THAT I'M...

661
00:34:39,537 --> 00:34:42,289
AT A DISADVANTAGE
FOR BEING A WOMAN

662
00:34:42,498 --> 00:34:44,333
AND THAT I HAVE TO WORK
HARDER THAN EVERYONE ELSE

663
00:34:44,542 --> 00:34:47,753
AND I HAVE MORE TO OVERCOME
AND I HAVE MORE TO PROVE

664
00:34:47,962 --> 00:34:49,463
JUST BECAUSE OF MY GENDER.

665
00:34:49,672 --> 00:34:52,132
BUT THE MRAS ARE SAYING
THAT THIS IS ALL A LIE

666
00:34:52,341 --> 00:34:53,759
AND THAT GUYS
ARE ACTUALLY THE ONES

667
00:34:53,968 --> 00:34:58,180
THAT ARE DISADVANTAGED
AND DISCRIMINATED AGAINST.

668
00:35:02,226 --> 00:35:03,936
AND, ACTUALLY,
THE MORE 1 LEARN FROM THEM,

669
00:35:04,144 --> 00:35:07,189
THE MORE I THINK, "THANK GOD
I WASN'T BORN A GUY."

670
00:35:07,398 --> 00:35:10,150
BECAUSE I DON'T THINK

671
00:35:10,359 --> 00:35:15,364
THAT THE EXPECTATIONS
ON MEN...

672
00:35:15,573 --> 00:35:17,366
IS GOOD OR HEALTHY.

673
00:35:17,575 --> 00:35:19,451
I MEAN,
THEY HAVE so MUCH PRESSURE

674
00:35:19,660 --> 00:35:21,287
TO SUCCEED AND TO BE STRONG

675
00:35:21,495 --> 00:35:23,372
AND TO STAND UP
AND PROTECT OTHERS

676
00:35:23,581 --> 00:35:25,457
AND TO PUT THEIR LIVES
ON THE LINE.

677
00:35:28,544 --> 00:35:30,754
I DON'T THINK I WOULD WANT
THAT RESPONSIBILITY.

678
00:35:30,963 --> 00:35:35,050
BUT, YOU KNOW, 5O YEARS AGO,

679
00:35:35,259 --> 00:35:36,885
NO, I WOULDN'T HAVE
WANTED TO BE A WOMAN.

680
00:35:39,972 --> 00:35:42,975
BUT NOW, I MEAN,
MAYBE JUST 11"s RIGHT NOW

681
00:35:43,183 --> 00:35:44,393
THAT THE TIDES ARE CHANGING

682
00:35:44,602 --> 00:35:48,355
AND WOMEN ARE THE--

683
00:35:48,564 --> 00:35:50,941
HAVE THE BETTER DEAL.

684
00:35:51,150 --> 00:35:52,818
WELL, NO, I DON'T KNOW.

685
00:35:59,992 --> 00:36:01,410
AND THEN SOMETIMES I THINK

686
00:36:01,619 --> 00:36:05,831
THE MRAS ARE JUST DUPING ME

687
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,627
AND GIVING
SUCH A STRONG PITCH

688
00:36:09,835 --> 00:36:11,211
ABOUT WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN

689
00:36:11,420 --> 00:36:13,297
TO CONVINCE ME OF SOMETHING

690
00:36:13,505 --> 00:36:16,300
THAT'S ACTUALLY JUST
SOME OUT THERE THEORY

691
00:36:16,508 --> 00:36:17,843
THAT MEN
ARE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST

692
00:36:18,052 --> 00:36:20,346
AND WOMEN ARE--
HAVE THE ADVANTAGE.

693
00:36:25,142 --> 00:36:29,021
YES, THIS IS CASSIE JAYE.

694
00:36:29,229 --> 00:36:32,316
IT'S REGARDING A DOCUMENTARY
ABOUT THE MEN'S RIGHTS MOVEMENT,

695
00:36:32,524 --> 00:36:36,028
AND WE'RE LOOKING
FOR FEMINIST VOICES NOW

696
00:36:36,236 --> 00:36:37,154
TO SPEAK IN THE DOCUMENTARY.

697
00:36:51,752 --> 00:36:54,922
[TELEPHONE RINGS]

698
00:36:55,130 --> 00:36:56,840
FEMINIST MAJORITY.

699
00:36:57,049 --> 00:36:58,008
YEAH, HOLD ON
JUST ONE SECOND.

700
00:37:10,229 --> 00:37:11,647
[JAYE]
SO I REALIZED, "OKAY,

701
00:37:11,855 --> 00:37:13,399
I NEED TO BRING SOME
FEMINISTS INTO THE MIX...

702
00:37:13,607 --> 00:37:15,234
<i>- GOOD. - ...TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE HAVE THAT SIDE.“</i>

703
00:37:15,442 --> 00:37:16,485
GOOD.

704
00:37:16,694 --> 00:37:18,487
I WAS RESEARCHING
RAPE CULTURE,

705
00:37:18,696 --> 00:37:21,699
AND SO THAT'S HOW
I STUMBLED ACROSS A WEBSITE

706
00:37:21,907 --> 00:37:23,492
CALLED AVOICEFORMEN.COM.

707
00:37:23,701 --> 00:37:25,452
SO SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT
WE'VE ALREADY INTERVIEWED

708
00:37:25,619 --> 00:37:29,832
ON THE MRA SIDE IS PAUL ELAM
WITH A VOICE FOR MEN.

709
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,875
- YEAH.
- ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH HIM?

710
00:37:32,084 --> 00:37:33,544
OH, I'M FAMILIAR WITH HIM.
I'VE NEVER MET HIM.

711
00:37:33,752 --> 00:37:35,754
- YEAH.
- OBVIOUSLY, THEY'VE SPENT

712
00:37:35,963 --> 00:37:37,172
A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT
OF TIME AND ENERGY

713
00:37:37,381 --> 00:37:39,091
DENOUNCING ME, SO I FIGURED
I MIGHT AS WELL

714
00:37:39,299 --> 00:37:41,552
HAVE A LOOK AT WHAT THEY SAY.

715
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,722
YEAH, REALLY, THE MEN'S RIGHTS
MOVEMENT IS PART OF THE BACKLASH.

716
00:37:44,930 --> 00:37:47,433
- THE BACKLASH?
- TO FEMINISM.

717
00:37:47,641 --> 00:37:50,894
THE MEN'S RIGHTS MOVEMENT
REALLY GOT GOING

718
00:37:51,103 --> 00:37:53,105
AS WOMEN BEGAN TO MAKE GAINS,

719
00:37:53,313 --> 00:37:56,108
AND SOME MEN
HAVE FELT THREATENED

720
00:37:56,316 --> 00:38:00,612
BY THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT
HAVE BEEN OPENED UP TO WOMEN.

721
00:38:00,821 --> 00:38:01,989
AND I DON'T KNOW
IF IT'S BECAUSE

722
00:38:02,197 --> 00:38:04,324
SOME OF THEM FEEL THREATENED

723
00:38:04,533 --> 00:38:05,743
THAT THEY NOW HAVE TO COMPETE

724
00:38:05,951 --> 00:38:07,911
WITH A LOT MORE PEOPLE
FOR THEIR JOBS.

725
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,915
THEY NOW CAN'T
GET INTO THE BEST SCHOOLS

726
00:38:12,124 --> 00:38:14,877
IF A WOMAN OR A GIRL
HAS BETTER GRADES.

727
00:38:15,085 --> 00:38:16,545
THINK ABOUT IT.

728
00:38:16,754 --> 00:38:18,338
GRANDFATHER'S GENERATION
PROBABLY HAD IT

729
00:38:18,547 --> 00:38:20,340
PRETTY WELL, RIGHT?

730
00:38:20,549 --> 00:38:24,553
ALL OF HIS NEEDS,
HIS SHIRTS WERE IRONED,

731
00:38:24,762 --> 00:38:26,722
ALL OF THAT WAS ALWAYS
TAKEN CARE OF.

732
00:38:26,930 --> 00:38:28,182
WELL, YOU KNOW, GROW UP,

733
00:38:28,390 --> 00:38:30,768
REALIZE THE WORLD
HAS CHANGED.

734
00:38:30,976 --> 00:38:33,353
AND AS MUCH AS THE MRAS

735
00:38:33,562 --> 00:38:35,522
WOULD LIKE THINGS TO GO BACK
TO THE WAY THEY WERE

736
00:38:35,689 --> 00:38:38,484
AND USE THE ARGUMENT

737
00:38:38,692 --> 00:38:40,360
THAT WOMEN
HAVE AN ADVANTAGE NOW--

738
00:38:40,569 --> 00:38:42,154
[SCOFFS]

739
00:38:42,321 --> 00:38:44,490
NO PERSON
LOOKING AT THE DATA

740
00:38:44,698 --> 00:38:46,950
CAN POSSIBLY SAY WOMEN
HAVE AN ADVANTAGE.

741
00:38:47,159 --> 00:38:51,580
WE'RE JUST BEGINNING TO GET
A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD HERE.

742
00:38:51,789 --> 00:38:56,168
IT'S NOT TILTED IN OUR FAVOR,
I CAN TELL YOU THAT.

743
00:38:56,376 --> 00:38:58,587
AND THEY KNOW IT.
THEY KNOW IT.

744
00:38:58,796 --> 00:39:04,468
BUT IT'S THE CONSTANT
DISTORTION OF THE DATA,

745
00:39:04,676 --> 00:39:08,639
IT'S THE SPINNING
OF A SITUATION

746
00:39:08,847 --> 00:39:12,976
TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE WOMEN
ARE SOMEHOW GETTING AHEAD,

747
00:39:13,185 --> 00:39:15,771
GETTING AN ADVANTAGE
THEY DON'T DESERVE.

748
00:39:15,979 --> 00:39:20,067
UM, IT'S, UH--
IT'S PART OF THE BACKLASH.

749
00:39:20,275 --> 00:39:24,446
POLITICAL ORGANIZING COMES FROM
A FEELING OF VICTIMIZATION,

750
00:39:24,655 --> 00:39:27,199
<i>WHICH 1S WHY THE MEN'S RIGHTS
MOVEMENT MAKES THAT CLAIM</i>

751
00:39:27,366 --> 00:39:30,077
THAT MEN ARE THE VICTIMS
OF DISCRIMINATION.

752
00:39:30,285 --> 00:39:31,703
BUT IT DOESN'T
HAVE MUCH TRACTION

753
00:39:31,912 --> 00:39:35,541
BECAUSE YOU LOOK AROUND
AND IT'S HARD TO SEE IT.

754
00:39:35,749 --> 00:39:38,836
WE DON'T HAVE MOVEMENTS CALLED,
YOU KNOW, STRAIGHT LIBERATION.

755
00:39:39,044 --> 00:39:42,548
IS THE MEN'S-- THE QUESTION
I WOULD POSE RHETORICALLY IS

756
00:39:42,756 --> 00:39:47,427
IS THE MEN'S RIGHTS MOVEMENT
REALLY THE GENDERED VERSION

757
00:39:47,636 --> 00:39:49,346
OF THE WHITE
NATIONALIST MOVEMENT?

758
00:39:49,555 --> 00:39:52,432
BECAUSE THERE ARE PLENTY
OF WHITE PEOPLE

759
00:39:52,641 --> 00:39:54,268
WHO SAY THAT
THEY ARE THE VICTIMS

760
00:39:54,476 --> 00:39:56,353
OF REVERSE DISCRIMINATION.

761
00:39:56,562 --> 00:39:58,730
OF COURSE, IT'S NOT GONNA HAVE
VERY MUCH TRACTION.

762
00:39:58,939 --> 00:40:03,235
<i>YOU CAN'T REALLY ORGANIZE THE
PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPER ORDINATE.</i>

763
00:40:07,823 --> 00:40:09,908
[JAYE]
SO DO YOU THINK THAT MEN

764
00:40:10,117 --> 00:40:13,662
ARE BEING DISCRIMINATED
AGAINST IN ANY WAY?

765
00:40:13,871 --> 00:40:15,664
NOT UNDER THE LAW.

766
00:40:15,873 --> 00:40:18,667
MEN ARE NOT DISADVANTAGED
UNDER OUR LAWS

767
00:40:18,876 --> 00:40:22,754
OR IN THE BUSINESS WORLD.

768
00:40:22,963 --> 00:40:26,675
<i>AS A CLASS, MEN ARE NOT
UNDERREPRESENTED ON CORPORATE BOARDS</i>

769
00:40:26,884 --> 00:40:29,887
OR THE TOP OF THE FORTUNE
1,000 COMPANIES.

770
00:40:30,095 --> 00:40:32,681
IN THE CORPORATE WORLD,
IN THE BUSINESS WORLD,

771
00:40:32,890 --> 00:40:34,683
IN A LOT OF PARTS
OF ACADEMIA,

772
00:40:34,892 --> 00:40:37,269
IN THE MILITARY,
IN THE SPORTS WORLD,

773
00:40:37,436 --> 00:40:40,564
IT'S STILL PRETTY MUCH
A MALE-DOMINATED WORLD,

774
00:40:40,772 --> 00:40:41,982
WHERE A LOT OF THE PRIVILEGES

775
00:40:42,190 --> 00:40:44,651
AND POWER AND STATUS
ACCRUE TO MEN.

776
00:40:44,860 --> 00:40:49,281
MEN ARE ADVANTAGED OVER WOMEN,
NO QUESTION.

777
00:40:49,489 --> 00:40:52,534
NO ONE CAN--
NO ONE CAN DEBATE THAT.

778
00:40:52,743 --> 00:40:55,245
NOT WITH A SERIOUS--

779
00:40:55,454 --> 00:40:58,582
NOT IN ANY SERIOUSNESS.

780
00:41:08,300 --> 00:41:10,385
<i>[HAYW ARD] 1 WAS A MATH
MAJOR AS AN UNDERGRADUATE,</i>

781
00:41:10,594 --> 00:41:13,555
AND ONE OF THE FUNDAMENTAL
THINGS ABOUT GEOMETRY

782
00:41:13,764 --> 00:41:16,266
IS THE DISTANCE
FROM POINT "A" TO POINT "B"

783
00:41:16,475 --> 00:41:19,519
EQUALS THE DISTANCE
FROM POINT "B" TO POINT "A,"

784
00:41:19,728 --> 00:41:22,648
AND IF WOMEN
ARE SO DIFFERENT FROM MEN

785
00:41:22,856 --> 00:41:25,525
THAT MEN CAN'T UNDERSTAND
THE FEMALE EXPERIENCE,

786
00:41:25,734 --> 00:41:28,320
WE NEED TO LISTEN TO WOMEN
TO DESCRIBE IT,

787
00:41:28,528 --> 00:41:30,322
THEN THE MALE EXPERIENCE
IS SO DIFFERENT

788
00:41:30,530 --> 00:41:32,699
FROM THE FEMALE EXPERIENCE
THAT YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT.

789
00:41:32,908 --> 00:41:34,284
YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO US.

790
00:41:34,493 --> 00:41:36,328
YOU CAN'T REALLY COMPARE

791
00:41:36,536 --> 00:41:41,750
HOW MEN AND WOMEN
HAVE SUFFERED FROM SEXISM.

792
00:41:41,959 --> 00:41:44,795
THERE'S NO WAY TO QUANTIFY,

793
00:41:45,003 --> 00:41:48,173
YOU KNOW,
THAT KIND OF SUFFERING.

794
00:41:48,382 --> 00:41:52,719
<i>SO 1F A WOMAN SAYS, “WELL, 1
MISS 30°10 OF MY INCOME...</i>

795
00:41:57,891 --> 00:42:01,311
MORE THAN YOU MISS
SIX YEARS OF LIFE..."

796
00:42:04,815 --> 00:42:06,817
THERE'S NO WAY
TO QUANTIFY THAT.

797
00:42:07,025 --> 00:42:10,779
OR "I'VE LOST A JOB OPPORTUNITY
BECAUSE I'M A WOMAN."

798
00:42:10,988 --> 00:42:14,366
THERE'S NO WAY TO SAY,
"I'VE SUFFERED MORE THAN YOU"

799
00:42:14,574 --> 00:42:16,994
BECAUSE YOU'VE LOST A KID
BECAUSE YOU'RE A MAN.

800
00:42:17,202 --> 00:42:20,080
YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T--
BUT IT IS SERIOUS.

801
00:42:20,288 --> 00:42:23,709
AND AT LEAST IF--

802
00:42:23,917 --> 00:42:26,211
IF YOU'RE DENIED A JOB
BECAUSE YOU'RE A WOMAN,

803
00:42:26,420 --> 00:42:27,796
AT LEAST YOU CAN GO
TO ANOTHER COMPANY

804
00:42:28,005 --> 00:42:29,464
AND APPLY FOR A JOB,
YOU KNOW?

805
00:42:29,673 --> 00:42:31,383
BUT YOU CAN'T--
WHEN YOU LOSE YOUR KID,

806
00:42:31,591 --> 00:42:33,593
YOU CAN'T SAY, "OKAY, I'LL
GET CUSTODY OF THAT KID.

807
00:42:33,802 --> 00:42:35,595
I'LL TRY FOR THAT ONE."

808
00:42:35,804 --> 00:42:38,181
IT'S A TERRIBLE THING
THAT HAPPENS.

809
00:42:41,101 --> 00:42:43,854
THERE WAS A CASE--
THE SERPICO CASE.

810
00:42:47,190 --> 00:42:49,234
YOU MIGHT BE TOO YOUNG
TO KNOW THE MOVIE "SERPICO"

811
00:42:49,443 --> 00:42:50,819
- WITH AL PACINO.
- YEAH, I DON'T KNOW.

812
00:42:51,028 --> 00:42:53,071
IT WAS ABOUT A NEW YORK CITY
UNDERCOVER COP.

813
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:54,573
HE GETS SHOT AT THE END
OF THE MOVIE

814
00:42:54,781 --> 00:42:56,283
AND RETIRES
FROM THE POLICE FORCE.

815
00:42:56,491 --> 00:42:58,869
AND HE WAS A REAL MAN,
FRANK SERPICO.

816
00:42:59,077 --> 00:43:02,539
A WOMAN, AFTER THE MOVIE,
AFTER THIS WAS MADE,

817
00:43:02,748 --> 00:43:04,624
DECIDED SHE WANTED
TO BECOME A SINGLE MOTHER

818
00:43:04,833 --> 00:43:07,085
AND TRICKED HIM
INTO FATHERING A CHILD.

819
00:43:07,294 --> 00:43:08,837
AND THE COURT ACCEPTED THAT,

820
00:43:09,046 --> 00:43:11,256
BECAUSE SHE TOLD HER FRIENDS
SHE WAS GOING TO TRICK HIM

821
00:43:11,465 --> 00:43:12,841
AND THEY TESTIFIED,
AND THE COURT SAID,

822
00:43:13,050 --> 00:43:14,885
"YES, YOU WERE
TRICKED INTO IT,"

823
00:43:15,093 --> 00:43:19,139
AND STILL AWARDED HER OVER 90°/o
OF HIS POLICE PENSION.

824
00:43:19,306 --> 00:43:21,224
SO EVERYTHING THAT HE
GOES THROUGH IN THIS MOVIE,

825
00:43:21,433 --> 00:43:24,853
INCLUDING GETTING SHOT,
TO EARN HIS PENSION,

826
00:43:25,062 --> 00:43:28,857
SHE WON BY
SLEEPING WITH HIM ONE NIGHT.

827
00:43:29,066 --> 00:43:30,859
MY SON'S MOM WANTED
TO HAVE CHILDREN WITH ME

828
00:43:31,068 --> 00:43:32,652
AND I HAD ALWAYS REFUSED,

829
00:43:32,861 --> 00:43:34,863
YOU KNOW, SAYING,
"YOU HAVE THIS ANGER PROBLEM.

830
00:43:35,072 --> 00:43:36,406
YOU NEED TO GET COUNSELING.

831
00:43:36,615 --> 00:43:38,658
I'M NOT GONNA CONSIDER
HAVING CHILDREN WITH YOU

832
00:43:38,867 --> 00:43:40,494
UNTIL THAT'S DEALT WITH,"

833
00:43:40,702 --> 00:43:42,913
'CAUSE SHE WOULD LOSE
HER TEMPER ALMOST EVERY DAY,

834
00:43:43,121 --> 00:43:44,623
AND JUST USE
ANY WEAPON SHE COULD.

835
00:43:44,831 --> 00:43:47,375
AND, LIKE, A CHILD'S
THE PERFECT WEAPON,

836
00:43:47,584 --> 00:43:49,086
SO I WAS REALLY
DEFINITE ABOUT THAT.

837
00:43:49,294 --> 00:43:52,130
BUT SHE ALSO USED TO PROOFREAD
MY ARTICLES FOR ME.

838
00:43:52,339 --> 00:43:56,093
AND I WROTE AN ARTICLE
FOR "PLAYBOY" ABOUT SERPICO.

839
00:43:56,301 --> 00:43:59,096
AND WHEN SHE READ THAT,
SHE TOLD HER FRIEND

840
00:43:59,304 --> 00:44:01,681
SHE'S GONNA TRICK ME
INTO FATHERING THE CHILD.

841
00:44:01,890 --> 00:44:03,391
SHE DOESN'T NEED
MY PERMISSION.

842
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,604
AND SO THAT'S HOW MY SON
WAS CONCEIVED.

843
00:44:07,813 --> 00:44:11,108
THEN SHE SAID,
"IF YOU WANNA SEE YOUR SON,

844
00:44:11,316 --> 00:44:13,276
YOU HAVE TO STAY
IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH ME.

845
00:44:13,485 --> 00:44:14,986
BUT IF YOU BREAK UP WITH ME,

846
00:44:15,195 --> 00:44:17,489
I KNOW ALL THE THINGS
THAT A WOMAN CAN DO TO A MAN."

847
00:44:17,656 --> 00:44:20,700
YOU KNOVV, SHE READ ALL IVIY ARTICLES.
SHE SAVV IVIY TALK SHOVVS.

848
00:44:20,909 --> 00:44:22,494
<i>SHE SAID, "1 KNOW ALL THE
THINGS A WOMAN CAN DO TO A MAN,</i>

849
00:44:22,661 --> 00:44:23,995
AND I'LL DO 'EM TO YOU."

850
00:44:24,204 --> 00:44:26,623
SO, UM, THAT'S WHAT
I HAD TO DEAL WITH.

851
00:44:26,832 --> 00:44:29,084
EVERYTHING THAT I HAD BEEN
RAISING AWARENESS ABOUT

852
00:44:29,292 --> 00:44:31,753
FOR THE PREVIOUS 17 YEARS,

853
00:44:31,962 --> 00:44:35,715
SHE COMBINED INTO ONE THING
FOR ME TO LIVE THROUGH.

854
00:44:35,924 --> 00:44:37,676
IT'S REALLY IRONIC.

855
00:44:40,679 --> 00:44:43,515
FOR THE FIRST...

856
00:44:43,723 --> 00:44:46,768
FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS, I GUESS,

857
00:44:46,977 --> 00:44:50,188
VVE VVOULD SEE EACH OTHER FOUR
TIMES A DAY FOR EXCHANGES.

858
00:44:50,397 --> 00:44:52,107
ON AVERAGE,
EVERY SINGLE DAY

859
00:44:52,315 --> 00:44:54,442
I HAD TO DEAL
WITH SOME SCENE--

860
00:44:54,651 --> 00:44:57,362
A SCENE MEANING
SHE WOULD JUST NOT SHOW UP

861
00:44:57,571 --> 00:45:00,949
OR SHE WOULD HOLD THE KID OUT
AND THEN PULL HIM BACK

862
00:45:01,158 --> 00:45:02,367
AND HOLD HIM OUT
AND PULL HIM--

863
00:45:02,576 --> 00:45:03,535
AND JUST
KIND OF PLAY WITH ME.

864
00:45:03,743 --> 00:45:05,162
OR SHE'D LET ME HAVE THE KID

865
00:45:05,370 --> 00:45:06,371
AND THEN SHE'D STAND
IN FRONT OF THE CAR

866
00:45:06,580 --> 00:45:07,455
SO I COULDN'T MOVE.

867
00:45:15,338 --> 00:45:18,550
ANOTHER TIME, I SAW HER
HOLD HIM BY THE SHOULDERS

868
00:45:18,758 --> 00:45:20,760
AND SAY,
"DADDY IS A BAD MAN.

869
00:45:20,969 --> 00:45:22,929
DADDY IS A VERY BAD MAN."

870
00:45:25,307 --> 00:45:27,350
AND SO I HAD TO GO THROUGH
THIS LONG CUSTODY BATTLE,

871
00:45:27,559 --> 00:45:29,936
AND THE DECISIONS
THAT THEY WOULD MAKE,

872
00:45:30,145 --> 00:45:32,147
YOU WOULD JUST GO, "HOW--"

873
00:45:32,355 --> 00:45:34,482
THERE COULDN'T
BE ANY EXPLANATION.

874
00:45:34,691 --> 00:45:38,403
EITHER THEY'RE ABSOLUTE IDIOTS
OR IT'S BIASED.

875
00:45:38,612 --> 00:45:40,697
THERE'S JUST NO OTHER
EXPLANATION FOR IT.

876
00:45:42,949 --> 00:45:45,410
ONE OTHER THING,
HIS MOM IS OBESE

877
00:45:45,619 --> 00:45:49,456
AND WANTED HIM TO BE OBESE
FOR VARIOUS REASONS.

878
00:45:49,664 --> 00:45:51,791
ONE THING IS
SO HE WOULD IDENTIFY

879
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,836
MORE WITH HER SIDE
OF THE FAMILY THAN MINE,

880
00:45:55,045 --> 00:45:57,631
'CAUSE WE'RE ALL--
ALL THIN.

881
00:45:57,797 --> 00:46:01,009
ANOTHER WAS SO THAT HE WOULD
ENJOY BEING WITH HER MORE,

882
00:46:01,218 --> 00:46:04,137
'CAUSE WHEN HE WAS AT MY HOUSE,
HE HAD TO GET ACTIVITY,

883
00:46:04,346 --> 00:46:06,223
YOU KNOW, AND EAT
WELL-BALANCED MEALS,

884
00:46:06,431 --> 00:46:08,016
AND GET HIS SLEEP AND STUFF.

885
00:46:08,225 --> 00:46:10,227
AND AT HER HOUSE,
THEY WOULD BAKE BROWNIES

886
00:46:10,435 --> 00:46:12,479
AND STAY UP LATE
AND JUST WATCH TV.

887
00:46:12,687 --> 00:46:14,147
SO WHERE WOULD YOU--
IF YOU'RE A LITTLE KID,

888
00:46:14,356 --> 00:46:16,233
WHERE WOULD YOU
ENJOY BEING MORE?

889
00:46:16,441 --> 00:46:19,819
BUT HE SELF-REPORTED
TO THE MEDIATOR

890
00:46:20,028 --> 00:46:22,197
HOW UPSET HE WAS
ABOUT BEING OBESE,

891
00:46:22,405 --> 00:46:24,115
THAT THE WORST THING IN SCHOOL

892
00:46:24,324 --> 00:46:27,494
WAS WHEN KIDS CALLED HIM FATTY
AND HOW HE CRIED,

893
00:46:27,702 --> 00:46:30,038
AND HIS PHYSICIAN SAID THAT

894
00:46:30,247 --> 00:46:32,207
HE'S REALLY CONCERNED
MEDICALLY.

895
00:46:32,415 --> 00:46:34,042
AND THEN WHAT I DID,
HE WAS AT AN AGE

896
00:46:34,251 --> 00:46:37,045
WHERE HE WOULD IMITATE
THINGS THAT I WOULD DO.

897
00:46:37,254 --> 00:46:38,630
YOU KNOW,
I GAVE HIM A BROKEN SHAVER,

898
00:46:38,838 --> 00:46:40,840
SO WHEN I SHAVED,
HE WOULD PRETEND TO SHAVE.

899
00:46:41,049 --> 00:46:42,342
AND WHAT I DID WAS,

900
00:46:42,550 --> 00:46:44,052
I STARTED WEIGHING MYSELF
EVERY MORNING

901
00:46:44,261 --> 00:46:48,056
AND WRITING DOWN MY WEIGHT,
THE DATE AND MY WEIGHT,

902
00:46:48,265 --> 00:46:49,683
AND I TAUGHT HIM
HOW TO READ A SCALE.

903
00:46:49,891 --> 00:46:53,061
SO HE KEPT HIS OWN RECORDS.

904
00:46:53,270 --> 00:46:57,065
<i>SO I HAD SIX MONTHS WORTH OF
STATISTICS TO SHOW CONSISTENTLY</i>

905
00:46:57,274 --> 00:46:59,859
THAT EVERY TIME HE WAS WITH
HIS MOM FOR A FEW DAYS,

906
00:47:00,068 --> 00:47:02,279
HE'D COME BACK WEIGHING
THREE TO FOUR POUNDS MORE,

907
00:47:02,487 --> 00:47:04,864
AND THEN HE'D LOSE IT
WHILE HE WAS WITH ME.

908
00:47:05,073 --> 00:47:06,658
SO THEY HAD, YOU KNOW,

909
00:47:06,866 --> 00:47:08,827
HOW MUCH HE WAS UPSET
ABOUT THE PROBLEM,

910
00:47:09,035 --> 00:47:11,496
THEY HAD HIS PHYSICIAN
BEING UPSET ABOUT THE PROBLEM,

911
00:47:11,705 --> 00:47:13,665
AND THEY HAD THE PROOF
OF WHERE THE PROBLEM LAY.

912
00:47:13,873 --> 00:47:15,500
SO THE JUDGES' DECISION

913
00:47:15,709 --> 00:47:17,502
WAS, UM, THAT FATHER
SHOULD NO LONGER

914
00:47:17,711 --> 00:47:19,879
BE ALLOWED
TO WEIGH THE CHILD.

915
00:47:20,088 --> 00:47:21,006
PROBLEM SOLVED.

916
00:47:25,135 --> 00:47:27,679
AFTER 14 YEARS,
MY BODY GAVE OUT.

917
00:47:27,887 --> 00:47:29,514
AND I GOT SICKER
THAN I'VE EVER BEEN.

918
00:47:29,723 --> 00:47:31,308
I REALIZED I'M GONNA DIE.

919
00:47:31,516 --> 00:47:32,684
THAT'S NOT
GONNA DO ANYBODY GOOD.

920
00:47:32,851 --> 00:47:34,102
I'VE GOTTA
GIVE UP THE FIGHT.

921
00:47:34,311 --> 00:47:35,520
SO I GAVE UP CUSTODY,

922
00:47:35,729 --> 00:47:37,814
AND SO I DON'T
SEE MY SON ANYMORE.

923
00:47:38,023 --> 00:47:40,108
HE HASN'T BEEN
IN MY HOUSE SINCE.

924
00:47:40,317 --> 00:47:42,110
- UM.
- I'M SO SORRY.

925
00:47:42,319 --> 00:47:44,404
SO I DID LOSE HIM.

926
00:47:44,571 --> 00:47:49,326
♪ JUST LIKE A DREAM

927
00:47:49,534 --> 00:47:51,328
[CHILD VOCALIZING]

928
00:47:51,536 --> 00:47:55,123
♪ YOU'RE LIKE A GUIDING LIGHT
SHINING IN THE NIGHT

929
00:47:55,332 --> 00:47:59,336
[JAYE] FRED CLAIMS THAT DURING
HIS 14-YEAR CUSTODY BATTLE,

930
00:47:59,544 --> 00:48:00,628
HE SPENT THE EQUIVALENT

931
00:48:00,837 --> 00:48:03,256
OF FIVE YEARS
OF HIS GROSS INCOME

932
00:48:03,465 --> 00:48:05,467
ON LEGAL FEES, MEDIATORS,

933
00:48:05,675 --> 00:48:07,635
AND CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENTS.

934
00:48:07,844 --> 00:48:09,554
[HAYVVARD] I VVAS REALLY
IN HIS LIFE A LoT LONGER

935
00:48:09,763 --> 00:48:11,931
THAN MOST FATHERS
WOULD HAVE BEEN.

936
00:48:12,140 --> 00:48:14,559
IT'S SOMETHING
MOST FATHERS CAN'T AFFORD.

937
00:48:14,768 --> 00:48:17,562
[CHILD BABBLING]

938
00:48:17,771 --> 00:48:23,151
♪ YOU ARE SO BEAUTIFUL

939
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:24,319
ITO ME

940
00:48:33,495 --> 00:48:35,372
WE GENERALLY KNOW
THAT FATHERS

941
00:48:35,580 --> 00:48:36,915
DON'T GET AS GOOD A DEAL
IN FAMILY COURT

942
00:48:37,123 --> 00:48:38,750
AND WE DON'T REALLY
COMPLAIN ABOUT IT

943
00:48:38,958 --> 00:48:40,168
UNTIL IT HAPPENS TO US,

944
00:48:40,377 --> 00:48:41,544
AND EVEN THEN,
A LOT OF MEN DON'T.

945
00:48:41,753 --> 00:48:43,380
MANY MEN'S RIGHTS ACTIVISTS

946
00:48:43,588 --> 00:48:45,548
COME INTO BEING
MEN'S RIGHTS ACTIVISTS

947
00:48:45,757 --> 00:48:47,425
AS A RESULT
OF GETTING A DIVORCE,

948
00:48:47,634 --> 00:48:49,177
WANTING TO BE EQUALLY
INVOLVED WITH THE CHILDREN,

949
00:48:49,386 --> 00:48:52,389
AND REALIZING THAT WOMEN
HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHILDREN

950
00:48:52,597 --> 00:48:55,600
AND MEN HAVE TO FIGHT
FOR CHILDREN.

951
00:48:55,809 --> 00:48:59,604
<i>[ELAN] WHEN YOUR FAMILY
COURTS RUN ON THE SUPPOSITION</i>

952
00:48:59,813 --> 00:49:03,900
THAT MOTHERS ARE MORE FIT
TO BE CUSTODIAL PARENTS

953
00:49:04,109 --> 00:49:06,986
AND THAT FATHERS ARE MORE FIT

954
00:49:07,195 --> 00:49:11,408
TO PROVIDE
A CHECK EVERY MONTH

955
00:49:11,616 --> 00:49:14,994
AND TO BECOME WHAT WE LIKE
TO CALL "UNCLE DADDY,"

956
00:49:15,203 --> 00:49:17,997
WHERE THEY VISIT--
VISIT THEIR CHILDREN,

957
00:49:18,206 --> 00:49:20,625
<i>TO ME, THAT'S ONE OF THE GREATEST
OBSCENITIES 1N THE WORLD,</i>

958
00:49:20,834 --> 00:49:23,336
THE IDEA OF VISITING
YOUR OWN CHILDREN,

959
00:49:23,545 --> 00:49:24,796
WHERE YOU GET TO SEE THEM

960
00:49:25,004 --> 00:49:26,840
FOR TWO HOURS
ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT,

961
00:49:27,048 --> 00:49:31,344
<i>AND YOU GET TO HAVE THEM FOR “X“
AMOUNT OF HOURS EVERY OTHER WEEKEND,</i>

962
00:49:31,553 --> 00:49:33,930
AND YOU HAVE NO SAY
IN HOW THEY'RE BROUGHT UP.

963
00:49:45,525 --> 00:49:46,734
YOU KNOW, I CAN'T TELL YOU

964
00:49:46,943 --> 00:49:49,863
HOW MANY MEN
HAVE BEEN IN THIS OFFICE,

965
00:49:50,071 --> 00:49:52,532
IN THAT CHAIR,

966
00:49:52,740 --> 00:49:56,453
IN TEARS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T
SEE THEIR KIDS.

967
00:50:11,634 --> 00:50:12,760
YEAH, AND SOME OF THIS STUFF

968
00:50:12,969 --> 00:50:15,305
ENDS UP IN HORRIFIC
CONSEQUENCES.

969
00:50:15,513 --> 00:50:18,766
LIKE THIS GENTLEMAN HERE,
THAT'S HIS LITTLE SON.

970
00:50:18,975 --> 00:50:20,685
THEY FOUND HIM DEAD--

971
00:50:20,894 --> 00:50:22,687
NOT THE SON,
BUT THE YOUNG MAN,

972
00:50:22,896 --> 00:50:26,274
IN THE DESERT
WITH A BULLET IN HIS HEAD

973
00:50:26,483 --> 00:50:28,693
THE DAY BEFORE
THE FAMILY COURT

974
00:50:28,902 --> 00:50:30,487
WHERE IT BECAME KNOWN

975
00:50:30,695 --> 00:50:33,490
THAT HE WAS GONNA GET TO SEE
HIS LITTLE GUY EVEN LESS.

976
00:50:35,617 --> 00:50:37,494
AND OF COURSE,
HE'D BE FALSELY ACCUSED

977
00:50:37,702 --> 00:50:39,287
ONE TIME AFTER ANOTHER
AFTER ANOTHER.

978
00:50:39,496 --> 00:50:41,080
IT HAD DESTROYED HIS LIFE.

979
00:50:41,289 --> 00:50:43,875
IT HAD BANKRUPT HIM,
DRIVEN HIM INTO DEBT.

980
00:50:44,083 --> 00:50:45,293
IT CAUSED HIM TO MISS WORK.

981
00:50:45,502 --> 00:50:47,295
HE WAS ABOUT READY
TO LOSE HIS JOB.

982
00:50:47,504 --> 00:50:48,505
HE WAS AT THE END OF HIS ROPE,

983
00:50:48,713 --> 00:50:52,342
SO HE JUST DECIDED TO END IT.

984
00:50:52,550 --> 00:50:55,720
THE UNFAIRNESS
IN THE FAMILY COURTS,

985
00:50:55,929 --> 00:50:57,305
THE UNFAIRNESS
IN THE WAY CHILD SUPPORT

986
00:50:57,514 --> 00:50:58,890
IS SO OFTEN STRUCTURED,

987
00:50:59,098 --> 00:51:00,642
IT'S COMMONPLACE,
AND IT'S EVERYWHERE,

988
00:51:00,850 --> 00:51:02,310
AND THE MORE YOU START
TO BECOME CONSCIOUS OF IT,

989
00:51:02,519 --> 00:51:04,020
THE MORE YOU REALIZE
THAT IT'S THERE.

990
00:51:09,692 --> 00:51:13,738
<i>[3 AYE] 1 STARTED TO RESEARCH
SOME FATHER'S RIGHTS ISSUES</i>

991
00:51:13,947 --> 00:51:18,117
AND CAME ACROSS
SOME HARROWING STORIES,

992
00:51:18,326 --> 00:51:20,578
LIKE THIS MAN
IN SOUTH CAROLINA

993
00:51:20,787 --> 00:51:23,331
WHO FOUND OUT HIS
ONLY DAUGHTER WAS ADOPTED AWAY

994
00:51:23,540 --> 00:51:26,918
BY THE MOTHER WITHOUT
HIS KNOWLEDGE OR CONSENT...

995
00:51:27,126 --> 00:51:28,169
[REPORTER]
HIS DAUGHTER WAS WITH

996
00:51:28,378 --> 00:51:30,547
AN ADOPTIVE FAMILY
IN CALIFORNIA,

997
00:51:30,755 --> 00:51:32,966
SO HE BEGAN HIS FIGHT
TO GET HIS DAUGHTER BACK.

998
00:51:33,132 --> 00:51:36,135
ADOPTION IS FOR CHILDREN
WITHOUT FAMILIES,

999
00:51:36,344 --> 00:51:39,764
NOT CHILDREN WITH A WILLING
AND CAPABLE FAMILY.

1000
00:51:39,973 --> 00:51:41,933
[JAYE]
AND THIS MAN IN COLORADO

1001
00:51:42,141 --> 00:51:44,561
WHO LOST HIS DAUGHTER
WHEN THE MOTHER LEFT THE STATE

1002
00:51:44,769 --> 00:51:46,354
TO GIVE BIRTH IN UTAH

1003
00:51:46,563 --> 00:51:49,315
WHERE HE WOULDN'T HAVE
LEGAL RIGHTS TO HIS CHILD.

1004
00:51:49,524 --> 00:51:51,359
HE FOUGHT FOR
FOUR YEARS IN COURT

1005
00:51:51,568 --> 00:51:55,363
AND FINALLY WON
VISITATION RIGHTS--

1006
00:51:55,572 --> 00:51:57,574
ONLY VISITATION.

1007
00:51:57,782 --> 00:52:00,159
[MAN] I CAN'T EXPLAIN THE
EMOTION, THE HAPPINESS-

1008
00:52:00,368 --> 00:52:03,705
THIS HARD FIGHT,
AND WHAT THIS MEANS TO ME...

1009
00:52:03,913 --> 00:52:06,833
[JAYE] AND THEN THERE'S
THIS HEARTBREAKING STORY.

1010
00:52:07,041 --> 00:52:09,794
[REPORTER] THE 20 YEAR OLD
FATHER NEVER LEFT HER SIDE

1011
00:52:10,003 --> 00:52:12,839
UNTIL HE VVAS FORCED TO GIVE HER
TO ADOPTIVE PARENTS THIS VVEEK

1012
00:52:13,047 --> 00:52:16,009
AFTER KAYLEE'S MOTHER DECIDED
TO PUT HER UP FOR ADOPTION.

1013
00:52:16,217 --> 00:52:17,969
IN ORDER TO KEEP KAYLEE,

1014
00:52:18,136 --> 00:52:21,180
COLBY NEEDED TO FILE PATERNITY
ACTION, AN AFFIDAVIT,

1015
00:52:21,389 --> 00:52:24,183
AND A COMMENCEMENT NOTICE
WITH UTAH'S VITAL RECORDS

1016
00:52:24,392 --> 00:52:25,810
A DAY BEFORE THE MOTHER SIGNED

1017
00:52:26,019 --> 00:52:28,187
THE ADOPTION PAPERS
RELINQUISHING HER RIGHTS.

1018
00:52:28,396 --> 00:52:31,608
<i>BUT 1N COLBY'S CASE, THE MOTHER
ONLY GAVE HIM A FEW HOURS NOTICE</i>

1019
00:52:31,816 --> 00:52:33,651
OF WHAT SHE WAS GOING TO DO.

1020
00:52:33,860 --> 00:52:36,446
I WOULD LIKE HER BACK.

1021
00:52:36,654 --> 00:52:37,905
MEN IN THE MEN'S MOVEMENT

1022
00:52:38,114 --> 00:52:41,618
ARE NOT UPSET
ABOUT HAVING TO BE FATHERS.

1023
00:52:41,826 --> 00:52:44,871
<i>THEY'RE UPSET BECAUSE THEY'RE
NOT ALLOWED TO BE FATHERS.</i>

1024
00:52:45,079 --> 00:52:48,416
THAT GUY...

1025
00:52:48,625 --> 00:52:50,627
BLOWS HIS HEAD OFF,
BLOWS HIS BRAINS OUT.

1026
00:52:50,835 --> 00:52:54,005
OUT OF FAMILY COURT?

1027
00:52:54,213 --> 00:52:56,382
<i>AND PEOPLE DON'T THINK THERE'S
SOMETHING WRONG WITH THAT?</i>

1028
00:52:58,384 --> 00:53:01,095
WE JUST OPEN THE DOORS
TOMORROW FOR BUSINESS AS USUAL

1029
00:53:01,304 --> 00:53:02,972
AND THAT'S OKAY?

1030
00:53:12,607 --> 00:53:14,233
[JAYE] I'VE ALVVAYS
THOUGHT OF FEMINISM

1031
00:53:14,442 --> 00:53:17,820
AS BEING THE FIGHT
FOR GENDER EQUALITY.

1032
00:53:18,029 --> 00:53:20,448
AND YET I'VE NEVER HEARD
ABOUT FATHER'S RIGHTS

1033
00:53:20,657 --> 00:53:23,284
AND THE INJUSTICES GOING ON
IN FAMILY COURT.

1034
00:53:25,036 --> 00:53:26,704
WHY IS THIS?

1035
00:53:26,913 --> 00:53:32,251
I DECIDED TO ASK GENDER STUDIES
PROFESSOR MICHAEL IVIESSNER.

1036
00:53:32,460 --> 00:53:35,880
WELL, I'LL JUST SAY,
I DON'T THINK 11"s--

1037
00:53:36,089 --> 00:53:37,882
I DON'T THINK THAT A LOT
OF THEIR ASSUMPTIONS

1038
00:53:38,091 --> 00:53:39,926
ARE CORRECT TO START WITH.

1039
00:53:40,134 --> 00:53:42,470
THERE'S NO DOUBT
THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME MEN

1040
00:53:42,679 --> 00:53:44,263
WHO GET JUST SCREWED

1041
00:53:44,472 --> 00:53:49,060
BY COURT DECISIONS
AND CUSTODY CASES.

1042
00:53:49,268 --> 00:53:53,272
BUT I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK
AT THE BROADER PATTERNS,

1043
00:53:53,481 --> 00:53:56,275
IT'S STILL THE CASE THAT

1044
00:53:56,484 --> 00:54:01,155
IN INTACT HETEROSEXUAL
FAMILIES WITH KIDS,

1045
00:54:01,364 --> 00:54:03,116
WOMEN ARE STILL DOING
THE VAST MAJORITY

1046
00:54:03,282 --> 00:54:05,785
OF THE HOUSEWORK
AND CHILD CARE,

1047
00:54:05,993 --> 00:54:08,788
AND THERE'S A LOT OF
SORT OF FATHER ABSENCE,

1048
00:54:08,996 --> 00:54:10,790
LACK OF PARTICIPATION
BY FATHERS,

1049
00:54:10,957 --> 00:54:15,503
SOME OF WHOM, I THINK,
AFTER DIVORCE HAPPENS,

1050
00:54:15,712 --> 00:54:19,090
END UP SUDDENLY WANTING

1051
00:54:19,298 --> 00:54:22,719
EQUALITY, YOU KNOW,
AS FATHERS

1052
00:54:22,927 --> 00:54:24,846
WHEN THEY HAVEN'T REALLY
BEEN PARTICIPATING EQUALLY

1053
00:54:25,054 --> 00:54:26,264
AS FATHERS BEFORE.

1054
00:54:26,472 --> 00:54:29,559
SO TO ME, IT ALWAYS
KIND OF SWINGS BACK

1055
00:54:29,767 --> 00:54:33,646
TO THE FEMINIST PERSPECTIVE
OF HOW WE NEED TO PUSH

1056
00:54:33,855 --> 00:54:35,940
FOR FULL EQUALITY
ACROSS THE BOARD,

1057
00:54:36,149 --> 00:54:39,110
INCLUDING BEFORE DIVORCES.

1058
00:54:39,318 --> 00:54:41,738
AND IF WE HAVE THAT,
THEN WE MIGHT EXPECT

1059
00:54:41,946 --> 00:54:44,657
MORE SYMMETRY
AFTER DIVORCES HAPPEN.

1060
00:54:49,203 --> 00:54:51,539
[JAYE] THE MORE I
RESEARCHED FATHER'S RIGHTS,

1061
00:54:51,748 --> 00:54:55,501
THE MORE I REALIZED HOW DEEP
THIS RABBIT HOLE GOES,

1062
00:54:55,710 --> 00:54:58,463
NOT ONLY IN
THE AMOUNT OF ISSUES,

1063
00:54:58,671 --> 00:55:00,131
BUT ALSO IN THE VAST ARRAY

1064
00:55:00,339 --> 00:55:03,676
OF PERSPECTIVES
ON THESE ISSUES.

1065
00:55:03,885 --> 00:55:05,970
I DECIDED TO CREATE
A FLOW CHART

1066
00:55:06,179 --> 00:55:09,098
OF WHAT I THOUGHT
FATHERS' OPTIONS MIGHT BE

1067
00:55:09,307 --> 00:55:11,976
FOLLOWING
A SURPRISE PREGNANCY.

1068
00:55:12,185 --> 00:55:14,353
I THEN PUT A GREEN LINE
FOR THE PATHS

1069
00:55:14,562 --> 00:55:16,981
THAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE
GOOD TURN-OUTS FOR THE FATHER.

1070
00:55:17,190 --> 00:55:18,566
AND I PUT RED LINES
FOR THE PATHS

1071
00:55:18,775 --> 00:55:21,986
THAT SEEMED TO NOT BE GOOD
FOR THE FATHER.

1072
00:55:22,195 --> 00:55:25,573
THEN I CREATED A FLOW CHART
FOR WOMEN'S OPTIONS

1073
00:55:25,782 --> 00:55:27,950
AND DID THE SAME
WITH GREEN AND RED LINES.

1074
00:55:31,162 --> 00:55:32,997
AND AS I STEPPED BACK,

1075
00:55:33,206 --> 00:55:36,167
I SAW ALL THE RED LINES
FOR THE WOMEN'S OPTIONS

1076
00:55:36,375 --> 00:55:37,960
IF SHE DOES NOT WANT
THE CHILD.

1077
00:55:40,338 --> 00:55:43,299
BUT SOMETHING DAWNED ON ME.

1078
00:55:43,508 --> 00:55:48,387
<i>OF EVERY PATH THE BIOLOGICAL
FATHER COULD GO DOWN,</i>

1079
00:55:48,596 --> 00:55:52,517
HE'S AT THE MERCY OF
THE WOMAN'S SOLE DISCRETION.

1080
00:55:52,725 --> 00:55:56,479
ALTHOUGH WOMEN HAVE
VERY DIFFICULT CHOICES TO MAKE,

1081
00:55:56,687 --> 00:56:00,608
SHE AT LEAST HAS THE CHOICE.

1082
00:56:00,817 --> 00:56:02,819
BUT FOR BIOLOGICAL FATHERS,

1083
00:56:03,027 --> 00:56:06,781
THEY HAVE NO SAY
OVER THEIR PARENTAL DESTINY.

1084
00:56:19,794 --> 00:56:21,337
THIS IS MY FRIEND DARRAH.

1085
00:56:21,546 --> 00:56:24,549
SHE'S EIGHT MONTHS PREGNANT
WITH HER FIRST CHILD

1086
00:56:24,757 --> 00:56:27,051
AND SHE'S
A LIFELONG FEMINIST.

1087
00:56:30,972 --> 00:56:34,225
IT SEEMS FROM WHAT I'VE READ,
THAT WOMEN SEEM TO HAVE

1088
00:56:34,433 --> 00:56:37,228
MORE REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS
THAN MEN DO.

1089
00:56:37,436 --> 00:56:39,647
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.
WE CARRY CHILDREN.

1090
00:56:39,856 --> 00:56:41,232
THEY'RE NEVER GONNA
CARRY CHILDREN.

1091
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:42,650
IT'S JUST
A DIFFERENT THING.

1092
00:56:42,859 --> 00:56:45,069
So, 1 GUESS,
AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE,

1093
00:56:45,278 --> 00:56:48,656
TAKE THE STEPS
TO PREVENT YOURSELF

1094
00:56:48,865 --> 00:56:50,616
BEING IN THAT SITUATION.

1095
00:56:50,825 --> 00:56:52,451
IT'S JUST, LIKE, I DON'T
KNOVV VVHAT TO SAY.

1096
00:56:52,660 --> 00:56:55,079
THERE'S NO--
THERE'S NOTHING--

1097
00:56:55,288 --> 00:56:57,415
A WOMAN HAS BEEN--

1098
00:56:57,623 --> 00:57:00,459
WOMEN HAVE BEEN BLAMED FOR,
AND STILL ARE,

1099
00:57:00,668 --> 00:57:04,255
FOR UNWANTED PREGNANCIES,

1100
00:57:04,463 --> 00:57:05,673
CHOOSING TO HAVE
AN ABORTION,

1101
00:57:05,882 --> 00:57:07,174
NOT CHOOSING
TO HAVE AN ABORTION,

1102
00:57:07,383 --> 00:57:09,260
CHOOSING TO PUT
THEIR CHILD UP FOR ADOPTION.

1103
00:57:09,468 --> 00:57:15,266
VVHEN THE BURDEN LIES ON A
SINGLE MOTHER IF THE MAN LEAVES,

1104
00:57:15,474 --> 00:57:18,686
SOCIETALLY, SHE'S LAM BASTED.

1105
00:57:18,895 --> 00:57:20,104
SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS

1106
00:57:20,313 --> 00:57:22,106
THAT WOMEN DEAL WITH
IN THAT REGARD

1107
00:57:22,315 --> 00:57:24,275
THAT MEN DON'T
ACTUALLY DEAL WITH.

1108
00:57:24,483 --> 00:57:26,903
SO I CAN HAVE COMPASSION
FOR THEIR SITUATION,

1109
00:57:27,111 --> 00:57:28,696
BUT I DON'T KNOW
THAT IT'S GONNA CHANGE

1110
00:57:28,905 --> 00:57:31,699
IN THE WAY THEY WANT IT TO,
BECAUSE IT'S BIOLOGY.

1111
00:57:31,908 --> 00:57:34,702
SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO
BE HAVING SEX

1112
00:57:34,911 --> 00:57:36,704
THAT COULD RESULT
IN PREGNANCY,

1113
00:57:36,913 --> 00:57:38,497
AND YOU HAVEN'T HAD
THIS CONVERSATION

1114
00:57:38,706 --> 00:57:40,499
WITH THE WOMAN THAT
YOU'RE HAVING SEX WITH,

1115
00:57:40,708 --> 00:57:42,335
YOU BETTER HAVE IT.
YOU BETTER HAVE IT FAST.

1116
00:57:42,543 --> 00:57:46,505
THAT'S WHEN THE MAN HAS
THE ABILITY TO MAKE DECISIONS--

1117
00:57:46,714 --> 00:57:50,509
EITHER NOT TO ENGAGE IN SEX
OR TO USE CONDOMS

1118
00:57:50,718 --> 00:57:52,929
AND TO USE OTHER FORMS
OF CONTRACEPTION.

1119
00:57:53,137 --> 00:57:55,514
THAT'S WHERE HIS ROLE
COMES IN.

1120
00:57:55,723 --> 00:57:57,350
ONCE HE'S IMPREGNATED HER,

1121
00:57:57,558 --> 00:58:00,937
SHE'S THE ONE NOW FACED
WITH CONTINUING A PREGNANCY,

1122
00:58:01,145 --> 00:58:04,941
FACED WITH THE HEALTH RISKS
THAT ACCOMPANY PREGNANCY.

1123
00:58:05,149 --> 00:58:08,319
SO... HIS RIGHTS HAVE TO

1124
00:58:08,486 --> 00:58:11,113
BE EXERCISED EARLY.

1125
00:58:11,322 --> 00:58:16,744
BUT ONCE SHE'S PREGNANT,
ALL DECISIONS MUST BE HERS.

1126
00:58:16,953 --> 00:58:21,499
BECAUSE ULTIMATELY,
SHE IS THE MOST IMPACTED.

1127
00:58:21,707 --> 00:58:23,334
THERE'S JUST NO QUESTION.

1128
00:58:23,501 --> 00:58:25,628
SHE ULTIMATELY HAS THE
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT CHILD.

1129
00:58:31,467 --> 00:58:32,593
SO BEFORE WE WERE MARRIED,

1130
00:58:32,802 --> 00:58:34,971
HE PROMISED ME
WE WOULD HAVE TWO KIDS,

1131
00:58:35,179 --> 00:58:36,806
AND NOW HE DOESN'T
WANT ANYMORE.

1132
00:58:37,014 --> 00:58:38,557
[CROWD]
AWW.

1133
00:58:38,766 --> 00:58:39,976
MY FRIENDS THINK
I SHOULD TRICK HIM

1134
00:58:40,184 --> 00:58:41,727
AND STOP TAKING
MY BIRTH CONTROL.

1135
00:58:41,894 --> 00:58:44,772
MEN HAVE NEVER BEEN
IN CONTROL OF OUR BODIES,

1136
00:58:44,981 --> 00:58:46,565
WE'RE THE ONES IN CONTROL.

1137
00:58:46,774 --> 00:58:48,317
CLAP IF YOU THINK
THAT SHE SHOULD TRICK HIM.

1138
00:58:50,736 --> 00:58:54,782
MY PEOPLE.
UP NEXT, EVERYBODY...

1139
00:58:54,991 --> 00:58:57,368
[JAYE] so IT SOUNDS LIKE
MEN'S REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS

1140
00:58:57,576 --> 00:59:01,372
ARE LIMITED TO THE CHOICE
OF WHETHER OR NOT TO HAVE SEX

1141
00:59:01,580 --> 00:59:04,792
<i>AND THE CHOICE OF WHETHER
OR NOT TO USE PROTECTION.</i>

1142
00:59:05,001 --> 00:59:07,795
BUT WHAT IF HE'S TRICKED
INTO FATHERHOOD?

1143
00:59:08,004 --> 00:59:12,383
OR WHAT IF HE'S NOT
EVEN THE FATHER?

1144
00:59:12,591 --> 00:59:15,011
WHAT DOES PATERNITY FRAUD
LOOK LIKE?

1145
00:59:15,219 --> 00:59:19,849
IT'S UGLY.
IT'S EXTRAORDINARY UGLY.

1146
00:59:20,057 --> 00:59:21,392
AND WE HAVE TO DISTINGUISH IT
BETWEEN PATERNITY FRAUD

1147
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,228
- AND WRONGFUL PATERNITY.
- WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?

1148
00:59:24,437 --> 00:59:27,690
WRONGFUL PATERNITY
CAN BE INNOCENT.

1149
00:59:27,898 --> 00:59:30,026
"OKAY, WE WENT TO A PARTY,
I HAD SEX WITH SIX GUYS.

1150
00:59:30,234 --> 00:59:32,069
I THINK IT WAS WHEN I WAS
HANGING OUT THE WINDOW

1151
00:59:32,278 --> 00:59:34,030
I GOT PREGNANT,
BUT I WASN'T SURE.

1152
00:59:34,238 --> 00:59:35,823
BUT YOU KNOW, IF ANYBODY
KNOWS THAT GUY'S NAME,

1153
00:59:36,032 --> 00:59:38,617
WOULD YOU PLEASE
HAVE HIM CALL ME?"

1154
00:59:38,826 --> 00:59:40,244
AND THEN SHE NAMES
ONE OF THE OTHER GUYS

1155
00:59:40,453 --> 00:59:42,997
AND HE DIDN'T HAVE
SEX WITH HER.

1156
00:59:43,205 --> 00:59:45,624
IT WASN'T MALICIOUS.
IT WASN'T INTENTIONAL.

1157
00:59:45,833 --> 00:59:47,626
SHE WASN'T TRYING
TO HARM ANYBODY.

1158
00:59:47,835 --> 00:59:50,463
SHE WAS JUST TRYING
TO FIGURE OUT WHO IT WAS.

1159
00:59:50,671 --> 00:59:53,340
WRONGFUL PATERNITY.

1160
00:59:53,549 --> 00:59:56,677
MORE OFTEN,
AND LESS FACETIOUSLY,

1161
00:59:56,886 --> 00:59:58,804
"OKAY, I'M MARRIED
AND I HAD AN AFFAIR."

1162
01:00:01,599 --> 01:00:03,851
OBVIOUSLY, HERE THERE'S
ALL SORTS OF PROBLEMS,

1163
01:00:04,060 --> 01:00:05,603
BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE VICTIMS

1164
01:00:05,811 --> 01:00:07,438
THAN THE PERSON WHO'S NAMED
AS DEAR OLD DAD

1165
01:00:07,646 --> 01:00:10,066
WHO MAY BE THE WRONG ONE.

1166
01:00:10,274 --> 01:00:11,650
THERE'S EVERYBODY
INVOLVED IN THE FAMILY,

1167
01:00:11,859 --> 01:00:14,278
LIKE THE SITUATION IN TEXAS

1168
01:00:14,487 --> 01:00:16,280
WHERE THE FAMILY HAD FIVE
LITTLE TOWHEAD KIDS--

1169
01:00:16,489 --> 01:00:18,657
ALL GUYS,
ALL LITTLE BLONDOS.

1170
01:00:18,866 --> 01:00:20,451
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN,

1171
01:00:20,659 --> 01:00:21,660
ONE DAY ONE OF THE LITTLE
BLONDO KIDS GETS IN TROUBLE,

1172
01:00:21,869 --> 01:00:23,454
HAS TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL.

1173
01:00:23,621 --> 01:00:25,498
THEY CAN'T GET AHOLD OF MOM.
THEY GET AHOLD OF DAD.

1174
01:00:25,706 --> 01:00:28,876
DAD RUSHES TO THE HOSPITAL,
NEEDS TO GIVE BLOOD.

1175
01:00:29,085 --> 01:00:30,169
WHOOPS.

1176
01:00:30,336 --> 01:00:32,296
CAN'T DO IT. WRONG BLOOD.

1177
01:00:32,505 --> 01:00:34,465
"WHAT?"

1178
01:00:34,673 --> 01:00:36,884
ALL THE KIDS LOOK ALIKE.

1179
01:00:37,093 --> 01:00:39,887
TURNS OUT IT WAS THE GUY
DOWN THE STREET.

1180
01:00:40,096 --> 01:00:42,306
- YOU'VE HEARD OF THIS CASE?
- IT'S A REAL CASE.

1181
01:00:42,515 --> 01:00:44,767
SO WHAT HAPPENS
TO THIS FAMILY?

1182
01:00:44,975 --> 01:00:49,897
CAN YOU FATHOM WHAT HAPPENS
TO THIS FAMILY?

1183
01:00:50,106 --> 01:00:51,899
HOW DO THINK THE KIDS FEEL
WHEN THEY FIND OUT

1184
01:00:52,108 --> 01:00:53,317
DEAR OLD DAD
ISN'T DEAR OLD DAD

1185
01:00:53,526 --> 01:00:54,485
AND IT'S THE GUY DOWN
THE STREET?

1186
01:00:54,693 --> 01:00:56,946
HOW DO YOU THINK DAD FEELS,

1187
01:00:57,154 --> 01:00:59,907
THAT THESE FIVE LITTLE BOYS
THAT HE STILL LOVES DEARLY,

1188
01:01:00,116 --> 01:01:01,700
WHEN HE FINDS OUT THEY'RE
NOT HIS BIO CHILDREN.

1189
01:01:01,909 --> 01:01:03,828
BUT HE CAN'T TEAR AWAY,
'CAUSE HE LOVES THEM.

1190
01:01:04,036 --> 01:01:06,122
HE'S DEVOTED
HIMSELF TO THESE--

1191
01:01:06,330 --> 01:01:08,290
HOW DO YOU THINK HE FEELS?

1192
01:01:08,499 --> 01:01:10,709
I MEAN, IT'S HORRIFIC.

1193
01:01:10,918 --> 01:01:13,129
HORRIFIC.

1194
01:01:13,337 --> 01:01:16,132
THAT'S NOT WRONGFUL.
THAT'S DELIBERATE.

1195
01:01:16,340 --> 01:01:18,342
- SO THAT'S PATERNITY FRAUD?
- THAT'S PATERNITY FRAUD.

1196
01:01:18,551 --> 01:01:20,553
SHE KNEW WHO THE FATHER WAS
AND LIED ABOUT IT.

1197
01:01:22,930 --> 01:01:24,765
PAUL WAS RIGHT WHEN HE SAID

1198
01:01:24,974 --> 01:01:27,351
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND
THE MEN'S RIGHTS MOVEMENT

1199
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,146
IS LIKE TRYING
TO UNDERSTAND A SNOWDRIFT

1200
01:01:30,354 --> 01:01:34,358
ONE SNOWFLAKE AT A TIME.

1201
01:01:34,567 --> 01:01:36,944
THERE ARE UNIQUE
FATHER'S RIGHTS ISSUES

1202
01:01:37,153 --> 01:01:40,531
THAT VARY BETWEEN
UNMARRIED, MARRIED,

1203
01:01:40,739 --> 01:01:43,325
AND DIVORCED DADS.

1204
01:01:43,534 --> 01:01:46,412
BUT THERE ARE ALSO
MEN'S RIGHT'S ISSUES

1205
01:01:46,620 --> 01:01:48,497
FOR NON-BIOLOGICAL FATHERS...

1206
01:01:51,917 --> 01:01:54,962
LIKE THIS MAN
WHO IS FACING JAIL TIME

1207
01:01:55,171 --> 01:01:56,964
FOR FAILURE
TO PAY CHILD SUPPORT

1208
01:01:57,173 --> 01:02:01,135
FOR A CHILD THAT DNA TESTS
PROVE ISN'T HIS.

1209
01:02:01,343 --> 01:02:03,679
CARNELL ALEXANDER STILL OWES

1210
01:02:03,888 --> 01:02:07,975
MORE THAN $30,000 TO THE STATE
FOR A CHILD THAT'S NOT HIS

1211
01:02:08,184 --> 01:02:10,186
BECAUSE THE MOM
WROTE HIS NAME DOWN

1212
01:02:10,394 --> 01:02:11,979
BECAUSE SHE NEEDED
TO NAME SOMEONE

1213
01:02:12,188 --> 01:02:13,898
IN ORDER TO GET
WELFARE BENEFITS.

1214
01:02:14,106 --> 01:02:16,192
I HAD TO PUT HIM DOWN
AS THE FATHER.

1215
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:17,776
THAT WAS THE ONLY WAY
I COULD GET ASSISTANCE.

1216
01:02:17,985 --> 01:02:21,405
I'M ALMOST HOMELESS.
I'M ALMOST IN JAIL.

1217
01:02:21,614 --> 01:02:23,073
I'M OUT OF WORK

1218
01:02:23,282 --> 01:02:25,284
MY MONEY IS BEING
THREATENED TO BE TAKEN.

1219
01:02:25,451 --> 01:02:27,453
<i>REPORTER} HE SAYS THE LAW
NEEDS TO BE CHANGED,</i>

1220
01:02:27,661 --> 01:02:30,206
SO WHEN THIS HAPPENS,
AS IT OFTEN DOES,

1221
01:02:30,414 --> 01:02:33,167
OTHER MEN DON'T BECOME
DAD BY DEFAULT.

1222
01:02:40,966 --> 01:02:43,552
<i>[ELAN] A LOT OF TIMES
PEOPLE WONDER ABOUT MRAS,</i>

1223
01:02:43,761 --> 01:02:46,222
"WHY ARE YOU GUYS SO ANGRY?"

1224
01:02:46,430 --> 01:02:49,058
AND MY ANSWER TO THAT IS,
"WHY AREN'T YOU?"

1225
01:02:49,266 --> 01:02:53,229
HOW CAN ANYBODY LOOK AT THIS
AND NOT BE ANGERED BY IT?

1226
01:02:53,437 --> 01:02:57,441
<i>AND THE ONLY ANSWER TO THAT I'VE
EVER BEEN ABLE TO COME UP WITH</i>

1227
01:02:57,650 --> 01:02:59,818
IS THAT PEOPLE AREN'T ANGRY

1228
01:03:00,027 --> 01:03:01,987
BECAUSE THEY DON'T SEE MEN
AS HUMAN BEINGS.

1229
01:03:16,627 --> 01:03:19,838
[JAYE] I CONTINUED
TRAVELING NORTH AMERICA,

1230
01:03:20,047 --> 01:03:24,176
MEETING MRAS
FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE,

1231
01:03:24,385 --> 01:03:26,262
HEARING THEIR
PERSONAL STORIES,

1232
01:03:26,470 --> 01:03:28,514
THEIR RED PILL MOMENTS.

1233
01:03:28,722 --> 01:03:30,516
I MET A YOUNG MAN
WHO WAS SEXUALLY ABUSED

1234
01:03:30,724 --> 01:03:32,059
WHEN HE WAS 16 YEARS OLD

1235
01:03:32,268 --> 01:03:34,019
WHILE LIVING
AT A RESIDENTIAL HOME

1236
01:03:34,228 --> 01:03:37,106
FOR PEOPLE WITH
DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES.

1237
01:03:37,314 --> 01:03:39,066
SHE WAS THE ONLY WOMAN
I'VE DONE ANYTHING EVER WITH,

1238
01:03:39,275 --> 01:03:42,152
PARTLY BECAUSE IT JUST
MESSED ME UP SO MUCH.

1239
01:03:42,361 --> 01:03:44,863
[JAYE]
SHE CONTINUES WORKING THERE.

1240
01:03:49,076 --> 01:03:51,287
SHE HIT ME IN THE FACE.

1241
01:03:51,495 --> 01:03:53,289
SHE ACTUALLY HIT ME
THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE,

1242
01:03:53,497 --> 01:03:55,249
CHASED ME
THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE.

1243
01:03:55,499 --> 01:03:58,252
WHEN I REPORTED MY DOMESTIC
ASSAULT TO POLICE OFFICERS,

1244
01:03:58,460 --> 01:04:03,215
I DID NOT AT ALL BRING UP THE FACT
THAT I VVAS SEXUALLY ASSAULTED.

1245
01:04:03,424 --> 01:04:05,092
BECAUSE IF HE WASN'T
GOING TO BELIEVE

1246
01:04:05,301 --> 01:04:07,511
THAT I WAS A VICTIM
OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE,

1247
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:09,096
THERE WAS NO WAY
HE WAS GONNA BELIEVE

1248
01:04:09,305 --> 01:04:11,557
THAT I WAS GONNA BE
A VICTIM OF SEXUAL ASSAULT.

1249
01:04:15,477 --> 01:04:18,314
[JAYE]
I MET THE HONEY BADGERS,

1250
01:04:18,522 --> 01:04:21,150
WOMEN WHO ARE
MEN'S RIGHTS ADVOCATES.

1251
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:27,531
AND THEN THERE
WAS A 15-YEAR-OLD BOY,

1252
01:04:27,740 --> 01:04:29,116
THERE WAS
A 35-YEAR-OLD WOMAN,

1253
01:04:29,325 --> 01:04:30,701
AND THEN LATER ON
SHE CAME OUT OF JAIL

1254
01:04:30,909 --> 01:04:34,330
AND SHE WAS ABLE
TO COLLECT CHILD SUPPORT

1255
01:04:34,538 --> 01:04:36,165
FROM THIS BOY THAT SHE RAPED.

1256
01:04:36,373 --> 01:04:37,708
YEAH.

1257
01:04:37,916 --> 01:04:39,251
AFTER GETTING OUT OF JAIL.

1258
01:04:39,460 --> 01:04:41,128
SO THERE'S LACK
OF FAIRNESS FOR MEN

1259
01:04:41,337 --> 01:04:43,130
IN THE COURT SYSTEMS.

1260
01:04:43,339 --> 01:04:45,924
WHEN POLICE OFFICERS SHOW UP
TO A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CASE

1261
01:04:46,133 --> 01:04:47,843
OFTEN MEN
WERE JUST TAKEN AWAY

1262
01:04:48,052 --> 01:04:50,137
WITHOUT ASKING
WHAT EVEN HAPPENED.

1263
01:04:50,346 --> 01:04:52,556
IT'S JUST PRESUMED
THAT MEN ARE THE CRIMINALS.

1264
01:04:55,142 --> 01:04:58,354
I WAS ASSAULTED SEVERAL TIMES,
AND I NEVER GOT ANY HELP.

1265
01:04:58,562 --> 01:05:01,023
I WENT TO THE POLICE STILL
BLEEDING A COUPLE OF TIMES,

1266
01:05:01,231 --> 01:05:04,735
AND ONE POLICE OFFICER SAID--

1267
01:05:04,943 --> 01:05:08,155
I'LL NEVER FORGET THIS,
HE SAID,

1268
01:05:08,364 --> 01:05:09,573
"IF SHE STARTS
HITTING YOU AGAIN,

1269
01:05:09,782 --> 01:05:10,949
YOU BETTER GET OUT
OF THERE FAST,

1270
01:05:11,158 --> 01:05:12,159
BECAUSE IF SHE JUST BREAKS

1271
01:05:12,368 --> 01:05:13,577
A FINGERNAIL
TRYING TO HIT YOU,

1272
01:05:13,786 --> 01:05:15,329
WE'LL ARREST YOU."

1273
01:05:15,537 --> 01:05:16,914
I MEAN, I CAN'T TELL YOU
AT THIS POINT

1274
01:05:17,122 --> 01:05:19,166
HOW MANY GUYS I'VE TALKED TO
WHO ARE LIKE,

1275
01:05:19,375 --> 01:05:20,376
"YEAH, YOU KNOW,
SHE STABBED ME

1276
01:05:20,584 --> 01:05:22,002
AND THEY PUT ME IN JAIL."

1277
01:05:22,211 --> 01:05:24,755
NOT ONLY ARE THERE
ENDLESS STUDIES

1278
01:05:24,963 --> 01:05:27,216
THAT SHOW WOMEN ARE
JUST AS VIOLENT AS MEN ARE,

1279
01:05:27,424 --> 01:05:30,177
WHEN I WOULD TALK ABOUT IT,
INVARIABLY,

1280
01:05:30,386 --> 01:05:32,930
MEN WOULD START COMING OUT OF
THE WOODWORK WITH STORIES...

1281
01:05:35,933 --> 01:05:37,393
STORIES THEY WERE
AFRAID TO TELL,

1282
01:05:37,601 --> 01:05:40,604
STORIES THAT THEY GOT
LAUGHED AT FOR,

1283
01:05:40,813 --> 01:05:43,148
STORIES THEY THEY
GOT BLAMED FOR.

1284
01:05:43,357 --> 01:05:47,403
IT'S HIDEOUS.

1285
01:05:47,611 --> 01:05:49,196
THIS IS NOT
FLATTERING TO MEN

1286
01:05:49,405 --> 01:05:50,989
TO TALK ABOUT
MEN'S VULNERABILITIES,

1287
01:05:51,198 --> 01:05:54,785
TO TALK ABOUT THE WAYS
THAT THEY ARE NOT STRONG

1288
01:05:54,993 --> 01:05:58,956
AND THAT THEY ARE,
WELL, WEAK.

1289
01:05:59,164 --> 01:06:01,625
AND TO BE HONEST ABOUT IT,
IT'S NOT FLATTERING.

1290
01:06:01,834 --> 01:06:05,003
A SOLUTION
FOR BOTH GENDERS

1291
01:06:05,212 --> 01:06:07,423
IS THAT WE NEED TO BE
ABLE TO RECOGNIZE

1292
01:06:07,631 --> 01:06:09,800
HOW MEN ARE VULNERABLE

1293
01:06:10,008 --> 01:06:11,009
AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE
TO RECOGNIZE

1294
01:06:11,218 --> 01:06:13,220
HOW WOMEN ARE ACTORS.

1295
01:06:13,429 --> 01:06:16,306
BECAUSE WE HAVE
A HUGE BLIND SPOT

1296
01:06:16,515 --> 01:06:18,600
ESPECIALLY WHEN WOMEN
DO BAD THINGS.

1297
01:06:23,981 --> 01:06:25,190
[ANGELUCCI]
MY BEST FRIEND

1298
01:06:25,399 --> 01:06:27,276
THAT I GREW UP WITH
SINCE KINDERGARTEN

1299
01:06:27,484 --> 01:06:30,237
WAS BEING PHYSICALLY ABUSED
BY HIS WIFE

1300
01:06:30,446 --> 01:06:33,824
WHO HE'D BEEN MARRIED TO
FOR 2O YEARS.

1301
01:06:33,991 --> 01:06:36,952
<i>SHE' LL BREAK GLASS AND
THROW 1T AT HIM, PUNCH HIM.</i>

1302
01:06:37,161 --> 01:06:39,246
I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN
SPONTANEOUSLY,

1303
01:06:39,455 --> 01:06:42,666
AND IT WAS FREQUENT.

1304
01:06:42,875 --> 01:06:43,959
AND HE'S BIGGER THAN HER,

1305
01:06:44,168 --> 01:06:46,670
BUT HE DIDN'T WANT
TO HIT HER.

1306
01:06:46,879 --> 01:06:48,046
AND HE DIDN'T WANT
THE CHILDREN--

1307
01:06:48,255 --> 01:06:49,673
THEY HAD
THREE MINOR CHILDREN,

1308
01:06:49,882 --> 01:06:52,843
HE DIDN'T WANT THEM
SEEING THIS AT ALL.

1309
01:06:53,051 --> 01:06:55,721
SO HE WOULD USUALLY
JUST GO OUTSIDE,

1310
01:06:55,929 --> 01:06:58,056
BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE
GLASS BREAKING

1311
01:06:58,265 --> 01:07:00,476
OR THINGS BEING SMASHED
OR YELLING,

1312
01:07:00,684 --> 01:07:02,478
AND HE KNEW
THAT THE NEIGHBORS

1313
01:07:02,686 --> 01:07:04,354
MIGHT THINK IT'S HIM.

1314
01:07:04,563 --> 01:07:06,148
SO HE WOULD GO OUTSIDE

1315
01:07:06,356 --> 01:07:09,359
SO THAT THE NEIGHBORS
COULD SEE WHAT'S HAPPENED.

1316
01:07:09,568 --> 01:07:11,487
EVENTUALLY, I SAID,
"LOOK, YOU'RE GONNA NEED--

1317
01:07:11,695 --> 01:07:13,280
YOU NEED PROFESSIONAL HELP,
AND SO DOES SHE.

1318
01:07:13,489 --> 01:07:15,365
MAYBE THE KIDS DO, TOO."

1319
01:07:15,574 --> 01:07:18,869
SO I CALLED A BUNCH OF
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHELTERS.

1320
01:07:19,036 --> 01:07:21,497
I JUST LOOKED AROUND ONLINE
AND I CALLED,

1321
01:07:21,705 --> 01:07:24,082
BUT EVERY PLACE
THAT I CALLED SAID,

1322
01:07:24,291 --> 01:07:25,876
"WE DON'T HELP MEN.

1323
01:07:26,084 --> 01:07:28,629
WE DON'T HELP MALE--
MEN AT ALL."

1324
01:07:28,837 --> 01:07:33,800
AND I STARTED BECOMING CURIOUS
ABOUT WHY THAT WAS,

1325
01:07:34,009 --> 01:07:37,429
'CAUSE I LEARNED THAT THESE
WERE STATE FUNDED SHELTERS.

1326
01:07:37,638 --> 01:07:41,099
AND I KNOW THAT MEN PAY
AT LEAST HALF OF THE TAXES

1327
01:07:41,308 --> 01:07:43,101
THAT FUND THESE SHELTERS
IF THEY'RE STATE FUNDED,

1328
01:07:43,310 --> 01:07:45,062
AND I JUST WAS WONDERING WHY.

1329
01:07:45,270 --> 01:07:48,440
BASICALLY, THERE WAS
NO PLACE TO TAKE HIM

1330
01:07:48,649 --> 01:07:50,108
AND IT JUST CONTINUED.

1331
01:07:50,317 --> 01:07:51,527
THE PROBLEM
JUST KEPT GOING.

1332
01:07:57,282 --> 01:07:58,742
[JAYE]
IN THE UNITED STATES,

1333
01:07:58,951 --> 01:08:03,747
THERE ARE OVER 2,000
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHELTERS.

1334
01:08:03,956 --> 01:08:06,667
ALL OF THEM SERVE
FEMALE VICTIMS,

1335
01:08:06,875 --> 01:08:11,421
AND NEARLY ALL OF THEM
TURN AWAY MALE VICTIMS.

1336
01:08:13,924 --> 01:08:17,135
IN FACT, AS OF 2016,

1337
01:08:17,344 --> 01:08:20,764
<i>THERE'S ONLY A SINGLE DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE SHELTER FOR MEN.</i>

1338
01:08:22,933 --> 01:08:25,352
MY INITIAL REACTION
WAS THAT THERE NEEDED TO BE

1339
01:08:25,561 --> 01:08:27,563
THOUSANDS MORE
WOMEN'S SHELTERS

1340
01:08:27,771 --> 01:08:31,024
BECAUSE THAT MANY MORE WOMEN
ARE BEING BATTERED.

1341
01:08:31,233 --> 01:08:33,277
BUT AS IT TURNS OUT,

1342
01:08:33,485 --> 01:08:37,364
ONE IN THREE WOMEN
AND ONE IN FOUR MEN

1343
01:08:37,573 --> 01:08:39,783
WILL BE VICTIMS
OF PHYSICAL VIOLENCE

1344
01:08:39,992 --> 01:08:42,786
BY AN INTIMATE PARTNER
IN THEIR LIFETIME.

1345
01:08:42,995 --> 01:08:46,540
SURE, THERE'S A SLIGHT
MAJORITY OF FEMALE VICTIMS,

1346
01:08:46,748 --> 01:08:50,419
BUT HOW CAN THAT EXCUSE
DENY MEN HELP?

1347
01:08:50,627 --> 01:08:53,338
COULDN'T THIS BE CONSIDERED
GENDER DISCRIMINATION?

1348
01:08:58,427 --> 01:08:59,970
THINK OF IT THIS WAY.

1349
01:09:00,178 --> 01:09:04,057
ROUGHLY 78°/o
OF ALL SUICIDES ARE MEN.

1350
01:09:04,266 --> 01:09:08,604
IF SUICIDE PREVENTION SERVICES
ONLY SERVED MEN,

1351
01:09:08,812 --> 01:09:12,816
VVOULDN'T VVE SEE THE GENDER
DISCRIMINATION IMMEDIATELY?

1352
01:09:13,025 --> 01:09:15,819
IF THERE ARE OVER 2,000
WOMEN'S SHELTERS

1353
01:09:16,028 --> 01:09:17,988
THAT TURN AWAY MEN,

1354
01:09:18,196 --> 01:09:20,616
AND ONLY ONE SHELTER FOR MEN,

1355
01:09:20,824 --> 01:09:23,910
OBVIOUSLY, THE RESOURCES
DON'T MATCH THE NEED.

1356
01:09:27,956 --> 01:09:31,418
HOW ARE YOU INVOLVED IN
THE MEN'S RIGHTS MOVEMENT?

1357
01:09:31,627 --> 01:09:32,669
WELL, FROM
THE VERY BEGINNING

1358
01:09:32,878 --> 01:09:34,212
WHEN I FIRST OPENED
THE REFUGE,

1359
01:09:34,421 --> 01:09:38,425
WHICH WAS IN 1971
IN CHISWICK IN LONDON,

1360
01:09:38,634 --> 01:09:40,844
ALMOST AS SOON
AS I TOOK THE WOMEN IN,

1361
01:09:41,053 --> 01:09:44,222
I GOT A HOUSE FOR MEN.

1362
01:09:44,431 --> 01:09:47,643
A VOICE FOR MEN'S
EDITOR AT LARGE ERIN PIZZEY

1363
01:09:47,851 --> 01:09:52,439
FOUNDED THE FIRST EVER
WOMEN'S SHELTER IN 1971,

1364
01:09:52,648 --> 01:09:55,651
AND SHE IS WIDELY REVERED
IN THE MEN'S RIGHTS COMMUNITY.

1365
01:09:59,404 --> 01:10:01,490
<i>[PIZZEY] 'CAUSE YOU SEE, WHAT
1 KNEW FROM THE BEGINNING,</i>

1366
01:10:01,698 --> 01:10:04,034
MOST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
IS CONSENSUAL.

1367
01:10:04,201 --> 01:10:05,243
BOTH ARE INVOLVED.

1368
01:10:05,452 --> 01:10:07,079
SOMETIMES ONE'S
THE PERPETRATOR,

1369
01:10:07,287 --> 01:10:09,998
THE OTHER PLAYS THE VICTIM,
THEN IT CROSSES OVER.

1370
01:10:10,207 --> 01:10:13,460
IT'S NOT AS THOUGH IT'S JUST
ALL MEN OR ALL WOMEN.

1371
01:10:13,669 --> 01:10:17,047
IT'S BOTH, AND OCCASIONALLY,
INNOCENT VICTIMS--

1372
01:10:17,255 --> 01:10:18,215
VERY INNOCENT.

1373
01:10:22,094 --> 01:10:24,888
<i>BATTERED CHILDREN GROW UP TO
BATTER, THAT'S WHAT T. LEARNED,</i>

1374
01:10:25,097 --> 01:10:27,015
WHETHER IT BE
A MAN OR A WOMAN.

1375
01:10:27,224 --> 01:10:28,892
AND I NOW KNOW
THAT IF A WOMAN COMES IN

1376
01:10:29,101 --> 01:10:32,020
WITH A HISTORY OF VIOLENCE
IN HER OWN CHILDHOOD,

1377
01:10:32,229 --> 01:10:34,690
CHANCES ARE, SHE VVILL BE
PROBABLY VIOLENT TO HER CHILDREN,

1378
01:10:34,898 --> 01:10:38,068
<i>AND SHE WILL WANT TO LIVE ON THIS
KNIFE EDGE OF CRISIS AND DANGER.</i>

1379
01:10:40,987 --> 01:10:42,197
I HAVEN'T BEEN
ALLOWED TO SPEAK.

1380
01:10:42,406 --> 01:10:44,491
- THAT'S THE DIFFICULTY.
- WHY IS THAT?

1381
01:10:44,700 --> 01:10:47,369
BECAUSE I'M COMPLETELY BARRED
FROM ALL CONFERENCES.

1382
01:10:47,577 --> 01:10:49,913
I'M NOT ALLOWED TO WALK UP
THE STEP OF MY OWN REFUGE.

1383
01:10:50,122 --> 01:10:51,248
I BOUGHT
THE BLOODY BUILDING.

1384
01:10:51,456 --> 01:10:53,291
BUT, NO, BECAUSE
THERE'S FEMINISTS--

1385
01:10:53,500 --> 01:10:55,502
THE WOMAN WHO RUNS IT
IS VERY HEAVILY FEMINIST.

1386
01:10:55,711 --> 01:10:57,170
SHE WON'T HAVE ANYTHING
TO DO WITH ME.

1387
01:10:57,379 --> 01:11:00,632
WHAT DID YOU SAY
THAT MADE THEM HATE YOU?

1388
01:11:00,841 --> 01:11:02,926
THAT WOMEN COULD BE
EQUALLY AS VIOLENT AS MEN--

1389
01:11:03,135 --> 01:11:04,219
THAT WAS FROM THE BEGINNING.

1390
01:11:13,478 --> 01:11:15,522
[JAYE]
ERIN PIZZEY SAYS THAT 62

1391
01:11:15,731 --> 01:11:19,109
OF THE FIRST 100 WOMEN
TO ENTER HER REFUGE

1392
01:11:19,276 --> 01:11:21,695
WERE JUST AS VIOLENT
AS THE MEN THEY LEFT,

1393
01:11:21,903 --> 01:11:23,530
AND VIOLENT TOWARDS
THEIR CHILDREN.

1394
01:11:37,919 --> 01:11:39,337
VERBALLY, AND...

1395
01:11:41,798 --> 01:11:42,799
...YOU KNOW, VERY EASILY,

1396
01:11:43,008 --> 01:11:44,176
AND I'VE HAD AN ARGUMENT...

1397
01:11:44,342 --> 01:11:45,844
[JAYE]
BUT THE FEMINISTS I'VE MET

1398
01:11:46,011 --> 01:11:48,305
HAVE AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT TAKE
ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

1399
01:11:56,062 --> 01:11:57,773
ON THE WHOLE ISSUE
OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE--

1400
01:11:57,981 --> 01:11:59,357
THAT'S JUST ANOTHER WORD,
REALLY.

1401
01:11:59,566 --> 01:12:01,985
IT'S A CLEAN-UP WORD
ABOUT WIFE BEATING,

1402
01:12:02,194 --> 01:12:03,195
'CAUSE THAT'S
REALLY WHAT IT IS.

1403
01:12:03,403 --> 01:12:05,071
OR "DATING VIOLENCE."

1404
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,574
AND IT'S NOT GIRLS
THAT ARE BEATING UP ON BOYS.

1405
01:12:07,783 --> 01:12:09,409
IT'S BOYS THAT ARE
BEATING UP ON GIRLS

1406
01:12:09,618 --> 01:12:12,162
AND USING VIOLENCE
TO INTIMIDATE AND TO CONTROL.

1407
01:12:12,370 --> 01:12:14,664
AND WE HAVE VERY FEW

1408
01:12:14,873 --> 01:12:16,792
WHAT'S CALLED
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHELTERS,

1409
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,586
WHICH ARE PLACES THAT WOMEN
CAN LEAVE THEIR HOME

1410
01:12:19,795 --> 01:12:22,005
WITH THEIR CHILDREN
AND GET A NEW START,

1411
01:12:22,214 --> 01:12:23,465
GET OUT OF THE VIOLENCE.

1412
01:12:23,673 --> 01:12:26,092
BUT THEY'RE NOT NEARLY
ENOUGH OF THEM.

1413
01:12:26,301 --> 01:12:29,095
WE NEED MORE FUNDING
AND MORE RESOURCES

1414
01:12:29,304 --> 01:12:34,392
BECAUSE IT IS
A TREMENDOUS DISADVANTAGE

1415
01:12:34,601 --> 01:12:35,560
FOR WOMEN AND GIRLS.

1416
01:12:47,572 --> 01:12:51,827
[JAYE] IN 2014,
THE coc RELEASED A REPORT

1417
01:12:52,035 --> 01:12:56,164
REVEALING THAT OVER
5.4 MILLION MEN

1418
01:12:56,373 --> 01:12:58,917
AND 4.7 MILLION WOMEN

1419
01:12:59,125 --> 01:13:02,087
HAD BEEN VICTIMS OF INTIMATE
PARTNER PHYSICAL VIOLENCE

1420
01:13:02,295 --> 01:13:04,548
WITHIN THE PREVIOUS
12 MONTHS.

1421
01:13:04,756 --> 01:13:06,132
BUT THEN WHY DOES THE MEDIA

1422
01:13:06,341 --> 01:13:09,052
PAINT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
AS A WOMEN'S ISSUE?

1423
01:13:09,261 --> 01:13:10,846
<i>REPORTER} THE WORLD
HEALTH ORGANIZATION SAYS</i>

1424
01:13:11,054 --> 01:13:13,640
ONE IN THREE WOMEN
ARE ABUSED BY THEIR PARTNER.

1425
01:13:13,849 --> 01:13:17,435
ONE IN THREE AMERICAN WOMEN
EXPERIENCES DOMESTIC VIOLENCE

1426
01:13:17,644 --> 01:13:19,312
OR STALKING
AT SOME POINT IN HER LIFE.

1427
01:13:19,521 --> 01:13:22,232
[JAYE] AND VVHEN IT VVAS
ADDRESSED AS A MEN'S ISSUE,

1428
01:13:22,440 --> 01:13:25,652
THE SPEAKER'S POINT
WAS THAT IT'S A MEN'S ISSUE

1429
01:13:25,861 --> 01:13:27,863
BECAUSE MEN ARE THE PROBLEM.

1430
01:13:28,071 --> 01:13:29,197
I'M GONNA SHARE WITH YOU

1431
01:13:29,406 --> 01:13:31,199
A PARADIGM SHIFTING
PERSPECTIVE

1432
01:13:31,408 --> 01:13:32,701
ON THE ISSUES
OF GENDER VIOLENCE.

1433
01:13:32,909 --> 01:13:34,244
I DON'T SEE THESE
AS WOMEN'S ISSUES

1434
01:13:34,411 --> 01:13:36,246
THAT SOME GOOD MEN
HELP OUT WITH.

1435
01:13:36,454 --> 01:13:38,290
IN FACT, I'M GONNA ARGUE
THAT THESE ARE MEN'S ISSUES.

1436
01:13:38,498 --> 01:13:40,667
WHY IS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
STILL A BIG PROBLEM

1437
01:13:40,876 --> 01:13:42,752
IN THE UNITED STATES
AND ALL OVER THE WORLD?

1438
01:13:42,961 --> 01:13:45,088
<i>WHAT'S GOING ON? WHY DO SO
MANY MEN ABUSE PHYSICALLY,</i>

1439
01:13:45,297 --> 01:13:47,257
EMOTIONALLY, VERBALLY,
AND IN OTHER WAYS,

1440
01:13:47,465 --> 01:13:48,884
THE WOMEN AND GIRLS,
AND THE MEN AND BOYS

1441
01:13:49,092 --> 01:13:50,093
THAT THEY CLAIM TO LOVE?

1442
01:13:50,302 --> 01:13:52,888
WHAT'S GOING ON WITH MEN?

1443
01:13:53,096 --> 01:13:58,476
LET'S GRANT EVERY SINGLE
EMPIRICAL CASE AS BEING TRUE.

1444
01:13:58,685 --> 01:14:00,604
YES, IT IS TRUE.
LET'S JUST SAY--

1445
01:14:00,812 --> 01:14:04,190
I MEAN, IT IS NOT TRUE,
BUT LET'S JUST ASSUME

1446
01:14:04,399 --> 01:14:08,278
THAT THERE IS GENDER SYMMETRY
IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE,

1447
01:14:08,486 --> 01:14:11,323
THAT WOMEN HIT MEN
AS MUCH AS MEN HIT WOMEN.

1448
01:14:11,531 --> 01:14:13,742
IF I WERE TO SAY THAT,
I WOULD SAY,

1449
01:14:13,950 --> 01:14:18,121
THEREFORE,
WE NEED BOATLOADS MORE FUNDING

1450
01:14:18,330 --> 01:14:20,248
FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE

1451
01:14:20,457 --> 01:14:23,168
TO DEVELOP SHELTERS
AND ADEQUATE INTERVENTIONS,

1452
01:14:23,376 --> 01:14:24,711
'CAUSE THERE'S
THIS HIDDEN EPIDEMIC

1453
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,714
OF MEN WHO ARE BEING
BEATEN UP BY WOMEN.

1454
01:14:27,923 --> 01:14:30,926
OR, I COULD SAY, AS
THE MEN'S RIGHTS MOVEMENT DO,

1455
01:14:31,134 --> 01:14:32,761
THEREFORE, WE SHOULDN'T
HAVE THESE SHELTERS

1456
01:14:32,969 --> 01:14:35,513
AND WE SHOULDN'T FUND THEM
BECAUSE THE WOMEN ARE ALL LYING.

1457
01:14:35,722 --> 01:14:40,727
VVELL, IT SEEMS TO IVIE, THAT IF YOU
REALLY BELIEVE IN GENDER SYMMETRY,

1458
01:14:40,936 --> 01:14:43,146
YOU'RE NOT QUESTIONING
THE NUMBER OF WOMEN.

1459
01:14:43,355 --> 01:14:44,731
YOU'RE JUST SAYING
THE NUMBER OF MEN IS--

1460
01:14:44,940 --> 01:14:46,733
YOU WOULD WANT TO JOIN
WITH WOMEN

1461
01:14:46,942 --> 01:14:48,735
WHO ARE ANTIVIOLENCE

1462
01:14:48,944 --> 01:14:51,738
TO SAY WE HAVE
A REAL PROBLEM HERE.

1463
01:14:51,947 --> 01:14:53,949
IT'S NOT EVEN
A GENDER PROBLEM.

1464
01:14:54,157 --> 01:14:56,326
<i>IT'S A PROBLEM OF WOMEN HITTING
MEN AND MEN HITTING WOMEN.</i>

1465
01:14:56,534 --> 01:14:59,955
<i>WE'VE GOTTA GET BOATLOADS MORE FUNDING.
LET'S WORK TOGETHER.</i>

1466
01:15:00,163 --> 01:15:02,123
THAT SEEMS THE LOGICAL
RESPONSE TO THIS.

1467
01:15:02,332 --> 01:15:04,876
BUT INSTEAD THEY'RE SAYING,
IT'S LIKE A ZERO SUM GAME.

1468
01:15:05,085 --> 01:15:09,464
IF WE FUND THE WOMEN,
THEN WE'RE GONNA IGNORE THE MEN.

1469
01:15:09,673 --> 01:15:12,175
<i>WELL, WE'RE NOT-- WE'RE NOT
GONNA IGNORE THE WOMEN,</i>

1470
01:15:12,384 --> 01:15:15,679
'CAUSE VVE ALL AGREE THAT THE
LEVELS ARE AS HIGH AS VVE SAY.

1471
01:15:18,723 --> 01:15:21,351
[JAYE] BUT IT DOES SOUND
LIKE A ZERO SUIVI GAME

1472
01:15:21,559 --> 01:15:23,979
WHEN ONLY WOMEN
ARE RECEIVING SERVICES

1473
01:15:24,187 --> 01:15:28,358
IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
SITUATIONS.

1474
01:15:28,566 --> 01:15:30,568
AND OF ALL THE MEN'S RIGHTS
ACTIVISTS I'VE MET,

1475
01:15:30,777 --> 01:15:33,989
NONE OF THEM QUESTION
THE NUMBER OF FEMALE VICTIMS.

1476
01:15:34,197 --> 01:15:35,991
BUT THEY ARE CALLING ATTENTION
TO THE HIGH NUMBER

1477
01:15:36,199 --> 01:15:38,159
OF MALE VICTIMS
THAT ARE BEING DISMISSED.

1478
01:15:40,745 --> 01:15:42,747
SO WHY AREN'T
MEN'S RIGHTS ACTIVISTS

1479
01:15:42,956 --> 01:15:44,958
AND FEMINISTS
WORKING TOGETHER?

1480
01:15:47,752 --> 01:15:51,589
<i>MICHAEL KIMMEL BRIEFLY SAID
SOMETHING THAT MADE ME WONDER.</i>

1481
01:15:51,798 --> 01:15:55,218
HE SAID IT WOULD NO LONGER
BE A GENDER PROBLEM

1482
01:15:55,427 --> 01:15:58,346
IF BOTH MEN AND WOMEN WERE
EQUALLY VICTIMS

1483
01:15:58,555 --> 01:16:01,224
OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

1484
01:16:01,433 --> 01:16:03,393
IS THAT WHY THE NUMBER
OF MALE VICTIMS

1485
01:16:03,601 --> 01:16:05,228
ARE NEVER ADDRESSED?

1486
01:16:08,565 --> 01:16:11,484
TO ME, IT'S BEEN FRAUD
FOR ALL THESE YEARS.

1487
01:16:11,693 --> 01:16:15,822
VVHY IS IT VVE HAVE THIS ENORMOUSLY
POVVERFUL FEMINIST MOVEMENT

1488
01:16:16,031 --> 01:16:18,408
AND VIRTUALLY
NOTHING FOR MEN?

1489
01:16:18,616 --> 01:16:21,036
ORIGINALLY,
IT WAS CAPITALISM

1490
01:16:21,244 --> 01:16:23,997
WAS THE BIG ENEMY
IN THE '60s AND '70s.

1491
01:16:24,205 --> 01:16:29,044
AND IT VVAS THE RADICAL FEMINISTS IN
AMERICA THAT MOVED THE GOAL POST.

1492
01:16:29,252 --> 01:16:31,629
THEY SAID, NO, IT'S NO LONGER
CAPITALISM IS THE ENEMY.

1493
01:16:31,838 --> 01:16:35,258
THE ENEMY IS PATRIARCHY...
OR MEN.

1494
01:16:39,804 --> 01:16:42,474
AND THAT'S HOW
THE WOMEN'S MOVEMENT BEGAN,

1495
01:16:42,682 --> 01:16:45,018
AND IT WAS
ENORMOUSLY SUCCESSFUL.

1496
01:16:48,021 --> 01:16:51,066
THE NEW MOOD IN THE REFUGES

1497
01:16:51,274 --> 01:16:53,443
VVAS GONNA BE THAT NO MAN
COULD VVORK IN REFUGES,

1498
01:16:53,651 --> 01:16:54,736
AND CAN'T TODAY.

1499
01:16:54,944 --> 01:16:56,321
THEY CAN'T SIT ON
THE BOARDS.

1500
01:16:56,529 --> 01:16:57,864
AND BOYS OVER 9,

1501
01:16:58,073 --> 01:17:00,533
OR POSSIBLY 12,
CAN'T so INTO REFUGES.

1502
01:17:00,742 --> 01:17:02,285
YOU CALL THEM SHELTERS.

1503
01:17:02,494 --> 01:17:04,287
THEIR MOTHERS HAVE TO MAKE
OTHER ARRANGEMENTS FOR THEM,

1504
01:17:04,496 --> 01:17:07,248
WHICH I FIND SHOCKING.

1505
01:17:07,457 --> 01:17:11,002
AND IT RING-FENCED MONEY.

1506
01:17:11,211 --> 01:17:13,713
I THINK THAT
THAT PARTICULAR TIME

1507
01:17:13,922 --> 01:17:15,882
WHEN THE FEMINIST MOVEMENT
WERE DESPERATE FOR FUNDING

1508
01:17:16,091 --> 01:17:19,469
'CAUSE THEY'D RUN OUT
OF PUBLICITY--

1509
01:17:19,636 --> 01:17:20,970
THEY WERE DESPERATE
FOR FUNDING

1510
01:17:21,179 --> 01:17:23,473
AND THEY NEEDED
A JUST CAUSE.

1511
01:17:23,681 --> 01:17:26,518
AND, UNFORTUNATELY,
IT FELL INTO THEIR LAPS.

1512
01:17:26,726 --> 01:17:28,686
IT'S AN ENORMOUS INDUSTRY.

1513
01:17:28,895 --> 01:17:31,189
1 MEAN,
"VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN,"

1514
01:17:31,356 --> 01:17:32,690
THEY GET SOMETHING LIKE--

1515
01:17:32,899 --> 01:17:34,901
WELL, IT'S A BILLION
AND OVER A YEAR.

1516
01:17:35,110 --> 01:17:36,319
HMM.

1517
01:17:36,528 --> 01:17:38,905
AND AN AWFUL LOT OF THAT
GOES ON, REALLY,

1518
01:17:39,114 --> 01:17:40,698
SUPPOSEDLY
REHABILITATING MEN,

1519
01:17:40,907 --> 01:17:42,325
BUT ESSENTIALLY PUNISHING THEM

1520
01:17:42,534 --> 01:17:45,912
WITH SOMETHING THAT'S CALLED
THE DULUTH MODEL.

1521
01:17:46,121 --> 01:17:48,289
DULUTH POWER AND CONTROL.
WELL, YOU GUYS KNOW ABOUT THAT?

1522
01:17:48,498 --> 01:17:51,334
-[JAYE] NO.
- I'LL GIVE YOU A COPY.

1523
01:17:51,543 --> 01:17:54,504
IN 1977, I THINK, A BUNCH OF CRAZY
VVOIVIEN UP IN DULUTH, MINNESOTA,

1524
01:17:54,671 --> 01:17:56,923
FIGURED OUT THEY HAD THE
SOLUTION TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE

1525
01:17:57,132 --> 01:17:59,134
AND IT WAS ALL
ABOUT PATRIARCHY

1526
01:17:59,342 --> 01:18:01,511
AND ALL ABOUT MEN.

1527
01:18:01,719 --> 01:18:04,139
IT'S THE DULUTH POWER
AND CONTROL WHEEL,

1528
01:18:04,347 --> 01:18:07,725
'CAUSE MEN ARE ALL ABOUT
POWER AND CONTROL.

1529
01:18:07,934 --> 01:18:09,394
OF COURSE, NOT YOU LADIES.

1530
01:18:09,602 --> 01:18:11,146
YOU GUYS, YOU DON'T
CONTROL ANYTHING.

1531
01:18:11,354 --> 01:18:12,772
YOU HAVE NO POWER.

1532
01:18:12,981 --> 01:18:14,357
YOU'RE JUST SWEET
AND INNOCENT LITTLE THINGS.

1533
01:18:14,566 --> 01:18:17,152
OKAY, SO THIS POWER
AND CONTROL WHEEL

1534
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:19,195
IS DIVIDED UP
IN ALL THESE THINGS,

1535
01:18:19,404 --> 01:18:20,947
YOU KNOVV, ABOUT VVHO DOES
THIS AND VVHO DOES THAT,

1536
01:18:21,156 --> 01:18:23,116
AND BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
AND OF COURSE, IT'S ALL MEN.

1537
01:18:41,342 --> 01:18:44,179
<i>THE ENTIRE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
INDUSTRY WAS FOUNDED ON THAT.</i>

1538
01:18:44,387 --> 01:18:45,430
I THINK IT'S STILL 37

1539
01:18:45,638 --> 01:18:46,973
OR 32 STATES
IN THE UNITED STATES

1540
01:18:47,182 --> 01:18:49,392
THAT BY LAW THEY HAVE TO USE
THE DULUTH MODEL

1541
01:18:49,601 --> 01:18:51,311
FOR BATTER
INTERVENTION PROGRAM.

1542
01:18:51,519 --> 01:18:54,189
IT'S ALL SHAME,
BLAME, AND GUILT DRIVEN.

1543
01:18:54,397 --> 01:18:55,565
IF YOU'RE A MAN
AND YOU WALK IN,

1544
01:18:55,773 --> 01:18:57,400
YOU MUST ADMIT
YOU DID IT UP FRONT

1545
01:18:57,609 --> 01:18:58,985
OR YOU'RE IN DENIAL.

1546
01:18:59,194 --> 01:19:00,862
THERE'S NO DEBATE.
THERE'S NO DISCUSSION.

1547
01:19:01,070 --> 01:19:03,281
THERE'S NO POSSIBILITY THAT
YOU COULD BE FALSELY ACCUSED,

1548
01:19:03,489 --> 01:19:05,491
THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM
COULD'VE MADE A MISTAKE.

1549
01:19:05,700 --> 01:19:07,785
NONE WHATSOEVER.
YOU ARE IN A STATE OF DENIAL,

1550
01:19:07,994 --> 01:19:10,205
AND YOU WILL COMPLETE
THAT COURSE

1551
01:19:10,413 --> 01:19:12,540
OR YOU'RE GONNA
GO TO JAIL.

1552
01:19:12,749 --> 01:19:15,585
YOU WILL BE REENGINEERED.

1553
01:19:15,793 --> 01:19:18,171
[JAYE]
THAT'S FRIGHTENING.

1554
01:19:18,379 --> 01:19:20,006
- FRIGHTENING?
- YES, THAT'S FRIGHTENING.

1555
01:19:20,215 --> 01:19:21,507
I THINK IT'S TERRIFYING.

1556
01:19:23,718 --> 01:19:26,512
ABSOLUTELY TERRIFYING.

1557
01:19:28,223 --> 01:19:29,599
ALL I HAD TO DO,
I HAD A SIMPLE CHOICE.

1558
01:19:29,807 --> 01:19:31,226
I COULD JUST SAY,

1559
01:19:31,434 --> 01:19:34,229
"YES, YOU'RE RIGHT.
MEN ARE THE ENEMY."

1560
01:19:34,437 --> 01:19:36,022
NO PROBLEM.
BUT I COULDN'T.

1561
01:19:36,231 --> 01:19:37,774
I ABSOLUTELY COULDN'T.

1562
01:19:43,404 --> 01:19:45,448
[SIGHS]

1563
01:19:45,657 --> 01:19:49,035
JUST GETTING OVERWHELMED,

1564
01:19:49,244 --> 01:19:51,037
BECAUSE...

1565
01:19:54,791 --> 01:19:57,835
I DON'T KNOW...

1566
01:19:58,044 --> 01:20:01,256
WHERE I'M HEADED
WITH WHAT I BELIEVE,

1567
01:20:01,464 --> 01:20:03,466
AND WHAT IS RIGHT
AND WHAT IS WRONG,

1568
01:20:03,675 --> 01:20:06,219
AND WHO IS WRONG
AND WHO IS RIGHT AND...

1569
01:20:17,021 --> 01:20:18,356
THE TRUTH IS SOMEWHERE
IN THE MIDDLE

1570
01:20:18,564 --> 01:20:22,277
AND THAT'S WHY
I'M FEELING FRUSTRATED,

1571
01:20:22,485 --> 01:20:26,489
BECAUSE...

1572
01:20:26,698 --> 01:20:28,032
I DON'T KNOW
WHERE THE TRUTH IS,

1573
01:20:28,199 --> 01:20:29,993
AND I DON'T KNOW...

1574
01:20:36,666 --> 01:20:38,668
WHEN I DECIDED TO MAKE A FILM

1575
01:20:38,876 --> 01:20:41,504
ON THE MEN'S RIGHTS MOVEMENT,

1576
01:20:41,713 --> 01:20:43,506
I NEVER ANTICIPATED

1577
01:20:43,715 --> 01:20:46,676
QUESTIONING
MY FEMINIST VIEWS.

1578
01:20:46,884 --> 01:20:48,970
BUT THE MORE MRAS I MET,

1579
01:20:49,178 --> 01:20:50,888
THE MORE I FELT COMPELLED

1580
01:20:51,097 --> 01:20:54,309
TO REMIND MYSELF
WHY I WAS A FEMINIST.

1581
01:20:57,854 --> 01:21:01,482
I SIGNED UP
FOR A WOMEN'S GROUP.

1582
01:21:01,691 --> 01:21:05,111
<i>WELCOME TO OUR “WOMEN, OWN
YOUR POWER“ WORKSHOP.</i>

1583
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:10,658
<i>ONLY FOUR PERCENT OF THE FORTUNE
50D COMPANIES ARE LED BY WOMEN.</i>

1584
01:21:10,867 --> 01:21:14,704
WOMEN ONLY HOLD ABOUT 14°/o

1585
01:21:14,871 --> 01:21:17,081
OF CORPORATE
EXECUTIVE POSITIONS

1586
01:21:17,290 --> 01:21:22,337
AND LESS THAN 20°/o OF
OUR GOVERNMENTAL POSITIONS.

1587
01:21:22,545 --> 01:21:24,589
[JAYE] I MADE VIDEO
DIARIES COMPLAINING

1588
01:21:24,797 --> 01:21:26,549
ABOUT HOW I HAD
TO CHANGE WHAT I WORE

1589
01:21:26,758 --> 01:21:28,051
TO WALK ALONE AT NIGHT,

1590
01:21:28,217 --> 01:21:32,096
HOW MUCH TIME IT TOOK ME
TO GET READY FOR WORK,

1591
01:21:32,305 --> 01:21:34,766
ALL THE HOUSEKEEPING
THAT WAS ON MY SHOULDERS.

1592
01:21:34,932 --> 01:21:36,726
IN COMPARISON
TO OTHER GENDER ISSUES,

1593
01:21:36,934 --> 01:21:38,811
THESE VIDEOS SEEM TRIVIAL,

1594
01:21:39,020 --> 01:21:41,939
BUT I MADE THEM NONETHELESS.

1595
01:21:42,148 --> 01:21:45,109
I ATTENDED
WOMEN'S RIGHTS RALLIES.

1596
01:21:45,318 --> 01:21:46,486
[WOMAN ON P.A.]
NO TO VIOLENCE.

1597
01:21:46,694 --> 01:21:48,488
THAT'S WHAT
WE ARE HERE FOR,

1598
01:21:48,696 --> 01:21:51,866
TO SAY NO MORE
TO VIOLENCE IN ANY FORM,

1599
01:21:52,075 --> 01:21:54,369
ESPECIALLY AGAINST WOMEN
AND GIRLS.

1600
01:21:54,577 --> 01:21:55,953
[CHEERING]

1601
01:21:59,082 --> 01:22:01,167
I REPEATED
WOMEN'S ISSUES IN MY HEAD

1602
01:22:01,376 --> 01:22:03,294
LIKE A BROKEN RECORD--

1603
01:22:03,503 --> 01:22:04,921
FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION,

1604
01:22:05,129 --> 01:22:06,839
SEX TRAFFICKING,
REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS,

1605
01:22:07,048 --> 01:22:09,217
MATERNITY LEAVE,

1606
01:22:09,425 --> 01:22:12,637
AND SOCIAL MEDIA HELPED
REMIND ME OF WOMEN'S ISSUES.

1607
01:22:12,845 --> 01:22:17,183
WE HAVE FOUGHT FOR EVERYBODY'S
ELSE'S EQUAL RIGHTS.

1608
01:22:17,392 --> 01:22:22,146
<i>IT'S OUR TIME TO HAVE WAGE
EQUALITY ONCE AND FOR ALL,</i>

1609
01:22:22,355 --> 01:22:24,190
AND EQUAL RIGHTS FOR WOMEN

1610
01:22:24,399 --> 01:22:26,150
IN THE UNITED STATES
OF AMERICA.

1611
01:22:28,152 --> 01:22:31,614
WE ARE STRUGGLING
FOR A UNITING WORD.

1612
01:22:31,823 --> 01:22:33,408
BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS

1613
01:22:33,616 --> 01:22:37,203
THAT WE HAVE
A UNITING MOVEMENT.

1614
01:22:37,412 --> 01:22:39,038
IT IS CALLED "HE FOR SHE."

1615
01:22:48,798 --> 01:22:52,635
WHENEVER I HEAR
THE MRAs' POINT OF VIEW

1616
01:22:52,844 --> 01:22:54,637
ABOUT HOW DIFFICULT
IT IS FOR THEM,

1617
01:22:54,846 --> 01:22:57,265
I IMMEDIATELY GO TO,

1618
01:22:57,473 --> 01:23:00,184
WELL, WHAT ABOUT US?
WHAT IS LIKE FOR US?

1619
01:23:00,393 --> 01:23:01,811
AND THEN I GET
ON THE DEFENSIVE

1620
01:23:02,019 --> 01:23:03,771
AND WANT TO MAKE SURE

1621
01:23:03,980 --> 01:23:07,817
THAT WOMEN'S STRUGGLES
ARE ALSO HEARD.

1622
01:23:08,025 --> 01:23:11,237
AND I DON'T KNOW
IF THAT'S NECESSARY,

1623
01:23:11,446 --> 01:23:13,698
BECAUSE THE MRAS
ARE SAYING THAT

1624
01:23:13,906 --> 01:23:18,244
THE FEMINIST PERSPECTIVE
IS THE MAINSTREAM PERSPECTIVE.

1625
01:23:18,453 --> 01:23:20,413
BUT EVEN WHEN I HEAR
THEIR ISSUES,

1626
01:23:20,621 --> 01:23:21,998
I STILL WANT TO SPEAK UP
FOR THE WOMEN

1627
01:23:22,206 --> 01:23:24,667
BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE--
I DON'T KNOW.

1628
01:23:24,876 --> 01:23:27,003
I FEEL LIKE TALKING
ABOUT ONE GENDER'S ISSUES

1629
01:23:27,211 --> 01:23:28,671
NOW NEGLECTS THE OTHER,

1630
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:30,715
AND I GUESS THAT'S WHAT
MRAS HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH

1631
01:23:30,923 --> 01:23:32,258
IS ALWAYS HEARING
ABOUT WOMEN'S ISSUES

1632
01:23:32,467 --> 01:23:34,093
AND FEELING LIKE
THEIR ISSUES ARE NEGLECTED.

1633
01:23:34,302 --> 01:23:36,471
<i>BUT WHENEVER 1 HEAR THEM
TALK ABOUT MEN'S ISSUES,</i>

1634
01:23:36,679 --> 01:23:38,681
I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO
STAND UP FOR WOMEN AND SAY,

1635
01:23:38,890 --> 01:23:39,682
"THIS IS WHAT
WE'RE DEALING WITH,

1636
01:23:39,891 --> 01:23:42,268
AN EQUAL OPPOSITE."

1637
01:23:42,477 --> 01:23:43,227
[SIGHS]

1638
01:23:46,647 --> 01:23:48,858
<i>1 MET WITH MEN'S RIGHTS
ACTIVIST KAREN STRAUGHAN</i>

1639
01:23:49,066 --> 01:23:52,028
LATE ONE NIGHT
IN A NOISY BAR.

1640
01:23:52,236 --> 01:23:55,031
SHE BECAME WELL KNOWN
FOR HER YOUTUBE VIDEOS

1641
01:23:55,239 --> 01:23:56,866
TALKING ABOUT
MALE DISPOSABILITY

1642
01:23:57,074 --> 01:23:59,285
AND OTHER
MEN'S RIGHTS ISSUES,

1643
01:23:59,494 --> 01:24:02,038
AND SHE'S A HONEY BADGER.

1644
01:24:02,246 --> 01:24:03,331
PART OF WHAT I DO,

1645
01:24:03,539 --> 01:24:04,665
WHAT I RESEARCH,
AND WHAT I THINK ABOUT

1646
01:24:04,874 --> 01:24:08,085
IS THE REASON PSYCHOLOGICALLY

1647
01:24:08,294 --> 01:24:10,838
WHY FEMINISM SEEMS TO BE

1648
01:24:11,047 --> 01:24:14,091
SUCH A COMFORTABLE
WARM BLANKET EMOTIONALLY

1649
01:24:14,300 --> 01:24:17,803
FOR SO MANY PEOPLE,
MEN AND WOMEN ALIKE.

1650
01:24:18,012 --> 01:24:22,892
AND IT'S SO COMFORTABLE

1651
01:24:23,100 --> 01:24:26,103
THAT IT WILL MAKE THEM
NOT SEE THINGS

1652
01:24:26,312 --> 01:24:27,813
THAT ARE RIGHT IN FRONT
OF THEIR FACE.

1653
01:24:28,022 --> 01:24:30,107
LOOK AT BOKO HARAM.

1654
01:24:30,316 --> 01:24:33,528
[REPORTER] HUNDREDS 0F YOUNG
GIRLS FAST ASLEEP IN THEIR BEDS

1655
01:24:33,736 --> 01:24:35,988
ARE AWAKENED
BY THE SOUND OF GUNFIRE.

1656
01:24:36,197 --> 01:24:38,115
ARMED ATTACKERS HAVE STORMED
THEIR BOARDING SCHOOL

1657
01:24:38,324 --> 01:24:40,701
AND SET FIRE TO DOZENS
OF BUILDINGS.

1658
01:24:40,910 --> 01:24:44,705
<i>NEARLY 300 OF THEM ARE DRAGGED FROM
THEIR DORM, LOADED ON TO TRUCKS,</i>

1659
01:24:44,914 --> 01:24:46,999
AND CARRIED AWAY
DEEP INTO THE FOREST.

1660
01:24:47,208 --> 01:24:49,126
<i>Mevoanaa} ...FROM NEW YORK
TO LONDON RALLIED YESTERDAY</i>

1661
01:24:49,335 --> 01:24:53,631
DEMANDING THAT THE TERRORIST GROUP
BOKO HARAIVI BRING BACK OUR GIRLS.

1662
01:24:53,839 --> 01:24:56,175
IT JUST GETS
TO THE CORE OF YOU.

1663
01:24:56,384 --> 01:24:58,261
THIS UNCONSCIONABLE ACT

1664
01:24:58,427 --> 01:25:00,680
WAS COMMITTED
BY A TERRORIST GROUP

1665
01:25:00,888 --> 01:25:03,808
DETERMINED TO KEEP THESE GIRLS
FROM GETTING AN EDUCATION.

1666
01:25:04,016 --> 01:25:08,771
AND WHAT HAPPENED IN NIGERIA
WAS NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT.

1667
01:25:08,980 --> 01:25:11,983
IT IS A STORY
WE SEE EVERY DAY,

1668
01:25:12,191 --> 01:25:14,569
AS GIRLS AROUND THE WORLD
RISK THEIR LIVES

1669
01:25:14,777 --> 01:25:16,946
TO PURSUE THEIR AMBITIONS.

1670
01:25:17,154 --> 01:25:19,824
I MEAN, YOU MUST HAVE HEARD
ABOUT ALL OF THAT, RIGHT?

1671
01:25:20,032 --> 01:25:23,953
THAT'S BEING SPUN AS A
FUNDAMENTALIST ISLAMIC GROUP

1672
01:25:24,161 --> 01:25:27,540
THAT IS SO DETERMINED
TO BE MISOGYNISTIC

1673
01:25:27,748 --> 01:25:28,958
AND OPPRESS GIRLS

1674
01:25:29,166 --> 01:25:31,252
THAT THEY WANT TO
DENY GIRLS AN EDUCATION.

1675
01:25:31,460 --> 01:25:34,797
BUT THEY ARE NOT AGAINST
GIRLS BEING EDUCATED.

1676
01:25:35,006 --> 01:25:40,303
<i>THEY'RE AGAINST ANYBODY GETTING A
WESTERN SECULAR OR CHRISTIAN EDUCATION.</i>

1677
01:25:40,511 --> 01:25:42,847
THE INITIAL ATTACKS,
AND THERE WERE SEVERAL OF THEM,

1678
01:25:43,055 --> 01:25:45,600
THERE WAS ONE-- THERE WERE
OVER A HUNDRED MEN KILLED

1679
01:25:45,808 --> 01:25:47,727
AND ONE WOMAN KILLED.

1680
01:25:47,935 --> 01:25:51,731
AND THE VICTIMS WERE
DESCRIBED AS "PEOPLE," RIGHT?

1681
01:25:51,939 --> 01:25:53,566
OR "VILLAGERS."

1682
01:25:53,774 --> 01:25:57,820
AND IN THE PREVIOUS ATTACKS
ON THE SCHOOLS,

1683
01:25:58,029 --> 01:26:00,406
THEY ACTUALLY LET
THE GIRLS GO.

1684
01:26:00,615 --> 01:26:03,409
THEY SEPARATED OUT
THE BOYS AND THE GIRLS

1685
01:26:03,618 --> 01:26:06,203
AND THEY LET THE GIRLS GO,
AND THEY TOLD THEM,

1686
01:26:06,412 --> 01:26:09,582
"GO HOME, GET MARRIED,

1687
01:26:09,790 --> 01:26:11,792
RENOUNCE YOUR SINS,

1688
01:26:12,001 --> 01:26:15,630
AND LIVE A RIGHTEOUS LIFE
UNDER ALLAH," RIGHT?

1689
01:26:15,838 --> 01:26:18,633
AND THEN THEY BURNED
THE BOYS ALIVE.

1690
01:26:18,841 --> 01:26:21,427
THERE WAS LITERALLY
NO OUTRAGE.

1691
01:26:21,636 --> 01:26:23,471
IT WAS BARELY REPORTED ON.

1692
01:26:23,679 --> 01:26:25,848
IT VVAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS, THERE
VVAS NO OPINION PIECES ON IT,

1693
01:26:26,057 --> 01:26:27,433
NO NOTHING, RIGHT?

1694
01:26:27,642 --> 01:26:30,436
UNTIL THE GIRLS
WERE KIDNAPPED.

1695
01:26:30,645 --> 01:26:31,854
AND LOOK AT IT THIS WAY,

1696
01:26:32,063 --> 01:26:34,023
BECAUSE WE PLAYED RIGHT
INTO THEIR HANDS.

1697
01:26:34,231 --> 01:26:36,442
BECAUSE THEY
WANT ATTENTION, RIGHT?

1698
01:26:36,651 --> 01:26:40,237
AND THEY VVEREN'T GETTING ANY
ATTENTION FROM THE VVESTERN MEDIA

1699
01:26:40,446 --> 01:26:42,365
WHEN THEY WERE
JUST SLAUGHTERING BOYS.

1700
01:26:42,573 --> 01:26:44,450
- YEAH.
- RIGHT?

1701
01:26:44,659 --> 01:26:46,118
THEY WANT ATTENTION.

1702
01:26:46,327 --> 01:26:48,245
AND WHAT DO THEY DO?
THEY KIDNAP GIRLS

1703
01:26:48,454 --> 01:26:51,207
AND SELL THEM INTO
MARRIAGE OR SLAVERY, RIGHT?

1704
01:26:51,415 --> 01:26:54,251
AND EVERYBODY-- THE U.N.,

1705
01:26:54,460 --> 01:26:56,796
MICHELLE OBAMA, BARACK OBAMA,

1706
01:26:57,004 --> 01:27:00,466
THE U.K. GOVERNMENT, THE CANADIAN
FEDERAL MINISTER OF DEFENSE,

1707
01:27:00,675 --> 01:27:03,469
THEY'RE ALL PROMISING AID
AND HELP AND EQUIPMENT

1708
01:27:03,678 --> 01:27:07,056
AND PERSONNEL TO HELP FIND THESE
GIRLS AND BRING THEM BACK,

1709
01:27:07,264 --> 01:27:08,808
BECAUSE THIS IS SUCH
AN OUTRAGE,

1710
01:27:09,016 --> 01:27:11,310
AND, "OH, MY GOODNESS,
SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE."

1711
01:27:11,519 --> 01:27:15,314
WELL, MAYBE IF,
LIKE, LAST YEAR,

1712
01:27:15,523 --> 01:27:17,483
MAYBE IF WE DID
SOMETHING THEN,

1713
01:27:17,692 --> 01:27:22,863
<i>ALL OF THESE GIRLS WOULD BE SAFE
1N THEIR DORMS RIGHT NOW, RIGHT?</i>

1714
01:27:23,072 --> 01:27:24,365
BUT WE DIDN'T.

1715
01:27:24,573 --> 01:27:26,701
AND THE REASON WHY
THEY KIDNAPPED THOSE GIRLS

1716
01:27:26,909 --> 01:27:28,661
IS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T
DO ANYTHING.

1717
01:27:28,869 --> 01:27:32,873
WE DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION,
AND THEY WANT ATTENTION.

1718
01:27:33,082 --> 01:27:35,918
AND THEY KNOW THAT
ATTACKING GIRLS OR WOMEN

1719
01:27:36,127 --> 01:27:38,713
IS GONNA GET THEM ATTENTION.

1720
01:27:38,921 --> 01:27:42,591
<i>WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? START A
CAMPAIGN, “BRING BACK OUR BOYS“?</i>

1721
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:46,929
OH, WAIT, THEY'RE DEAD.
NEVER MIND, RIGHT?

1722
01:27:47,138 --> 01:27:50,307
THE MEN--
THE PEOPLE IN BOKO HARAM,

1723
01:27:50,516 --> 01:27:52,685
THEY'RE CHIVALROUS.

1724
01:27:52,893 --> 01:27:54,520
IF THOSE GIRLS WERE BOYS,

1725
01:27:54,729 --> 01:27:56,313
THEY WOULDN'T BE
GETTING EDUCATION,

1726
01:27:56,522 --> 01:27:58,858
THEY'D BE DEAD.

1727
01:27:59,066 --> 01:28:00,317
THEY WOULDN'T BE SOLD
INTO SLAVERY

1728
01:28:00,526 --> 01:28:04,321
WITH THE HOPE OF ESCAPE.
THEY'D BE DEAD.

1729
01:28:04,530 --> 01:28:05,906
[REPORTER]
BOKO HARAM HAS BEEN FIGHTING

1730
01:28:06,115 --> 01:28:09,910
FOR ISLAMIC RULE
IN NIGERIA SINCE 2002.

1731
01:28:10,119 --> 01:28:12,288
ITS MEMBERS HAVE KILLED
HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE.

1732
01:28:12,496 --> 01:28:17,293
["STUDY WAR"
BY MOBY PLAYING]

1733
01:28:25,926 --> 01:28:27,553
♪ FINALLY, BROTHER,
AFTER A WHILE...

1734
01:28:27,762 --> 01:28:29,138
AT LEAST 69 DEAD,

1735
01:28:29,346 --> 01:28:31,766
ALTHOUGH SOME REPORTS PUT
THE NUMBER AT ABOUT 150

1736
01:28:31,974 --> 01:28:34,685
AND SCORES MORE INJURED.

1737
01:28:34,894 --> 01:28:39,148
♪ FOR THAT DAY WHEN WE SHALL
LAY DOWN OUR BURDEN

1738
01:28:39,356 --> 01:28:44,153
♪ AND STUDY WAR NO MORE

1739
01:28:44,361 --> 01:28:48,783
♪ FINALLY, BROTHER,
AFTER A WHILE

1740
01:28:48,991 --> 01:28:52,787
♪ THE BATTLE WILL BE OVER

1741
01:28:52,995 --> 01:28:57,583
♪ FOR THAT DAY WHEN WE SHALL
LAY DOWN OUR BURDEN

1742
01:28:57,792 --> 01:29:02,379
♪ AND STUDY WAR NO MORE

1743
01:29:02,588 --> 01:29:07,009
♪ FINALLY, BROTHER,
AFTER A WHILE

1744
01:29:07,218 --> 01:29:11,180
♪ THE BATTLE WILL BE OVER

1745
01:29:11,388 --> 01:29:15,810
♪ FOR THAT DAY WHEN WE SHALL
LAY DOWN OUR BURDEN

1746
01:29:16,018 --> 01:29:20,606
♪ AND STUDY WAR NO MORE

1747
01:29:20,815 --> 01:29:25,194
♪ FINALLY, BROTHER,
AFTER A WHILE

1748
01:29:25,361 --> 01:29:29,406
♪ THE BATTLE WILL BE OVER

1749
01:29:29,615 --> 01:29:34,036
♪ FOR THAT DAY WHEN WE SHALL
LAY DOWN OUR BURDEN

1750
01:29:34,245 --> 01:29:38,833
♪ AND STUDY WAR NO MORE

1751
01:29:39,041 --> 01:29:43,629
♪ FINALLY, BROTHER,
AFTER A WHILE

1752
01:29:43,838 --> 01:29:47,633
♪ THE BATTLE WILL BE OVER

1753
01:29:47,842 --> 01:29:52,221
♪ FOR THAT DAY WHEN WE SHOULD
LAY DOWN OUR BURDEN

1754
01:29:52,429 --> 01:29:55,808
♪ AND STUDY WAR NO MORE

1755
01:29:59,562 --> 01:30:02,064
ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS
THE MEN'S MOVEMENT IS DOING

1756
01:30:02,273 --> 01:30:06,235
IS BEING ABLE TO SAY
MEN NEED COMPASSION

1757
01:30:06,443 --> 01:30:09,363
AND MEN DESERVE COMPASSION.

1758
01:30:09,572 --> 01:30:11,657
AND TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN,

1759
01:30:11,866 --> 01:30:14,201
I'M NOT EXPECTING IT
IN MY LIFETIME.

1760
01:30:16,036 --> 01:30:18,372
IT'S AN OCEAN
OF PAIN OUT THERE.

1761
01:30:18,581 --> 01:30:21,876
THIS STUFF
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

1762
01:30:22,084 --> 01:30:25,921
HAS BEEN GOING ON
FOR SO LONG,

1763
01:30:26,130 --> 01:30:30,885
AND NOBODY LISTENS,
NOBODY CARES.

1764
01:30:31,093 --> 01:30:36,473
<i>IT'S ONE THING WHEN YOU LOOK
AT WHAT HAPPENS TO WOMEN</i>

1765
01:30:36,682 --> 01:30:39,560
AND YOU FEEL NORMAL
HEALTHY OUTRAGE ABOUT IT,

1766
01:30:39,768 --> 01:30:41,437
AND THAT SHOULD HAPPEN.

1767
01:30:41,645 --> 01:30:42,897
BUT WHEN YOU CAN LOOK AT
WHAT'S HAPPENING

1768
01:30:43,105 --> 01:30:44,607
IN OUR COURTS TO MEN,

1769
01:30:44,815 --> 01:30:46,901
IN OUR MEDICAL
ESTABLISHMENT TO MEN,

1770
01:30:47,109 --> 01:30:48,903
IN OUR SCHOOLS TO MEN,

1771
01:30:49,111 --> 01:30:51,947
AND YET WE REMAIN
SO CEREBRAL ABOUT ALL OF IT,

1772
01:30:52,114 --> 01:30:55,910
YES, WELL, THAT IS CERTAINLY
SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

1773
01:30:56,118 --> 01:30:59,038
IF IT WERE HAPPENING
TO ANY OTHER GROUP,

1774
01:30:59,246 --> 01:31:02,207
WE WOULD BE HAVING PROTESTS
FROM COAST TO COAST.

1775
01:31:02,416 --> 01:31:05,419
AND THE FACT IS THAT
IT IS HAPPENING TO MEN

1776
01:31:05,628 --> 01:31:07,922
EVERY DAY RIGHT
IN FRONT OF OUR EYES,

1777
01:31:08,130 --> 01:31:11,300
AND PEOPLE VVILL GET ANGRY AT YOU
IF YOU TRY TO TALK ABOUT IT.

1778
01:31:11,508 --> 01:31:14,136
THAT'S HOW DEEP
THE PREJUDICE RUNS.

1779
01:31:14,345 --> 01:31:15,888
♪ NO MORE

1780
01:31:18,098 --> 01:31:20,643
[JAYE]
BUT THERE HAVE BEEN PROTESTS,

1781
01:31:20,851 --> 01:31:24,521
<i>NOT WITH THE INTENTION OF
SHINING LIGHT ON MEN'S ISSUES,</i>

1782
01:31:24,730 --> 01:31:26,941
BUT RATHER WITH
THE GOAL OF SILENCING

1783
01:31:27,149 --> 01:31:30,736
ANY DISCUSSION
OF MEN'S ISSUES.

1784
01:31:30,945 --> 01:31:32,529
LIKE AT OTTAWA UNIVERSITY,

1785
01:31:32,738 --> 01:31:35,574
WHEN PROFESSOR JANICE FLAMENGO
ATTEMPTED TO GIVE A LECTURE

1786
01:31:35,783 --> 01:31:38,786
THAT QUESTIONED
THE FEMINIST NARRATIVE.

1787
01:31:38,994 --> 01:31:40,329
[MAN]
WE'LL TAKE A MOMENT

1788
01:31:40,496 --> 01:31:44,792
UNTIL WE ENFORCE
SOME DECORUM IN THE ROOM.

1789
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:46,961
SO YOU THINK
THIS IS A VICTORY?

1790
01:31:47,169 --> 01:31:48,545
<i>[MAN] WHAT ARE YOU
SO FRIGHTENED OF...</i>

1791
01:31:48,754 --> 01:31:50,339
YEAH, WHY ARE YOU
SO FRIGHTENED

1792
01:31:50,506 --> 01:31:53,759
OF HEARING AN OPINION
DIFFERENT FROM YOUR OWN?

1793
01:31:53,968 --> 01:31:56,011
<i>[JAYE] THEN THERE WAS THE FIRST
INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE</i>

1794
01:31:56,220 --> 01:31:59,306
ON MEN'S ISSUES IN MICHIGAN,

1795
01:31:59,515 --> 01:32:01,850
WHERE EVEN "MS. MAGAZINE"
URGED ITS READERS

1796
01:32:02,059 --> 01:32:05,229
TO PROTEST THE CONFERENCE
IN HOPES OF SHUTTING IT DOWN.

1797
01:32:18,951 --> 01:32:21,370
BUT PERHAPS THE MOST
WELL KNOWN PROTEST

1798
01:32:21,578 --> 01:32:23,455
OF A PRO MEN'S RIGHTS EVENT

1799
01:32:23,664 --> 01:32:27,876
HAPPENED IN APRIL, 2013,
AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TORONTO,

1800
01:32:28,085 --> 01:32:30,212
WHEN THE CANADIAN
ASSOCIATION FOR EQUALITY

1801
01:32:30,421 --> 01:32:32,589
HOSTED A DISCUSSION TITLED

1802
01:32:32,798 --> 01:32:37,011
"FROM MISOGYNY AND MISANDRY
TO INTERSEXUAL DIALOGUE."

1803
01:32:37,219 --> 01:32:41,390
[CROWD CHANTING AND CLAPPING]

1804
01:32:45,561 --> 01:32:47,771
[WHISTLE BLOWS,
CHANTING CONTINUES]

1805
01:32:51,984 --> 01:32:54,028
[MAN]
FUCK THE PATRIARCHY!

1806
01:32:54,236 --> 01:32:56,613
[CROWD CHEERS]

1807
01:32:56,822 --> 01:32:58,824
[WOMAN]
WOMEN HOLD UP HALF THE SKY!

1808
01:32:59,033 --> 01:33:00,826
[CROWD CHANTING]

1809
01:33:01,035 --> 01:33:03,037
WOMEN HOLD UP HALF THE SKY!

1810
01:33:03,245 --> 01:33:04,788
[CROWD CHANTING]

1811
01:33:04,997 --> 01:33:06,707
WOMEN HOLD UP HALF THE SKY!

1812
01:33:06,915 --> 01:33:09,043
[CROWD CHANTING]

1813
01:33:09,251 --> 01:33:11,837
- WOMEN HOLD UP HALF THE SKY!
-[FIRE ALARM RINGS]

1814
01:33:12,046 --> 01:33:13,630
[CHEERING]

1815
01:33:13,839 --> 01:33:16,467
[JAYE] A FEMINIST GROUP
PROTESTING THE EVENT

1816
01:33:16,675 --> 01:33:18,260
ILLEGALLY PULLED
THE FIRE ALARM

1817
01:33:18,469 --> 01:33:20,721
AND SUCCESSFULLY
SHUT DOWN THE EVENT.

1818
01:33:31,023 --> 01:33:34,860
OKAY, LET'S GO.
WE GOT A FIRE ALARM!

1819
01:33:35,069 --> 01:33:36,695
[JAYE]
ONCE OUTSIDE THE LECTURE HALL,

1820
01:33:36,904 --> 01:33:39,364
FEMINIST PROTESTERS
AND MEN'S RIGHTS ACTIVISTS

1821
01:33:39,573 --> 01:33:42,451
GOT TO SPEAK FACE TO FACE.

1822
01:33:42,659 --> 01:33:44,661
SO, NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER ONE!

1823
01:33:44,870 --> 01:33:47,873
SHUT THE FUCK UP
FOR A SECOND.

1824
01:33:48,082 --> 01:33:51,043
<i>FEMINISTS DO NOT WANT YOU TO
LOSE CUSTODY OF YOUR CHILDREN.</i>

1825
01:33:51,251 --> 01:33:53,962
THE ASSUMPTION THAT WOMEN
ARE NATURALLY BETTER CAREGIVERS

1826
01:33:54,171 --> 01:33:56,757
IS PART OF PATRIARCHY.

1827
01:33:56,965 --> 01:33:58,467
FEMINISTS DO NOT LIKE
COMMERCIALS

1828
01:33:58,675 --> 01:34:00,594
IN WHICH BUMBLING DADS
MESS UP THE LAUNDRY

1829
01:34:00,803 --> 01:34:03,347
AND COMPETENT WIVES HAVE
TO BUSTLE IN AND FIX IT.

1830
01:34:03,555 --> 01:34:07,935
THE ASSUMPTION THAT WOMEN--
THIS IS A LIST

1831
01:34:08,143 --> 01:34:09,978
OF THE THINGS
THAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARD.

1832
01:34:10,187 --> 01:34:11,897
NOW IF YOU WOULD
SHUT THE FUCK UP

1833
01:34:12,106 --> 01:34:13,899
FOR THE 50th BILLIONTH TIME--

1834
01:34:14,108 --> 01:34:15,317
THESE ARE THINGS
WE AGREE ON, ACTUALLY.

1835
01:34:15,526 --> 01:34:17,903
THESE ARE THINGS
THAT WE'RE AGREEING ON,

1836
01:34:18,112 --> 01:34:21,323
<i>AND THESE ARE THINGS YOU'VE ALL
GOT SKEWED FUCKING VIEWS ON.</i>

1837
01:34:21,532 --> 01:34:24,326
<i>YOU THINK THAT FEMINISTS ARE TRYING
TO TAKE AWAY YOUR FUCKING RIGHTS,</i>

1838
01:34:24,535 --> 01:34:26,703
BUT AS A MATTER OF FACT,
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO

1839
01:34:26,912 --> 01:34:28,872
<i>1S WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO WORK ON THE
SAME THINGS THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON,</i>

1840
01:34:29,081 --> 01:34:30,624
EXCEPT THE FACT
THAT YOU'RE SO--

1841
01:34:30,833 --> 01:34:32,334
YOU'RE JUST TOO BUSY
HATING WOMEN...

1842
01:34:32,543 --> 01:34:34,461
YOU'RE A FUCKING HATE GROUP.

1843
01:34:34,670 --> 01:34:36,088
<i>YOU CAN'T SEE WE'RE TRYING TO
WORK ON THOSE SAME SITUATIONS.</i>

1844
01:34:36,296 --> 01:34:38,966
ARE YOU CONFLATING FEMINISM,
WHICH IS AN IDEOLOGY,

1845
01:34:39,174 --> 01:34:41,885
WITH WOMEN, WHICH IS
A DEMOGRAPHIC OF SOCIETY?

1846
01:34:42,094 --> 01:34:43,262
OKAY, MISTER
DERAILING FOR DUMMIES.

1847
01:34:43,470 --> 01:34:44,930
SO, REALLY, YOUR HATRED
IS FOR FEMINISTS.

1848
01:34:45,139 --> 01:34:47,808
- YOU'RE STILL A HATE GROUP.
- AN IDEOLOGY, YES.

1849
01:34:48,016 --> 01:34:49,434
I HATE ALSO HATE
A LOT OF OTHER "ISMS".

1850
01:34:49,643 --> 01:34:51,436
- SO YOU ADMIT, THOUGH.
- RACISM, SEXISM.

1851
01:34:51,645 --> 01:34:53,147
OH, BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT.

1852
01:34:53,355 --> 01:34:55,357
BULLSHIT, YOU HATE SEXISM,
BUT YOU'RE AN MRA.

1853
01:34:55,566 --> 01:34:57,943
OKAY, NO. POINT TAKEN.
WE-- LIKE, WE WIN.

1854
01:34:58,152 --> 01:34:59,528
YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVEN'T READ
OUR LITERATURE.

1855
01:34:59,736 --> 01:35:01,238
SORRY. OKAY!

1856
01:35:01,446 --> 01:35:03,532
YOU DON'T ACTUALLY WORK
ON ANYTHING.

1857
01:35:03,740 --> 01:35:05,534
YOU'RE CREATING ANY CHANGE
IN THE FUCKING WORLD.

1858
01:35:05,701 --> 01:35:06,952
YOUR WEBSITE,
YOUR FUCKING WEBSITE,

1859
01:35:07,161 --> 01:35:08,579
THE HATE WEBSITE
AGAINST FEMINISTS--

1860
01:35:08,787 --> 01:35:09,830
YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY
CREATING ANY CHANGE.

1861
01:35:10,038 --> 01:35:12,541
FEMINISTS DO NOT WANT YOU

1862
01:35:12,749 --> 01:35:14,168
TO HAVE TO MAKE
ALIMONY PAYMENTS.

1863
01:35:14,376 --> 01:35:16,503
ALIMONY IS SET UP
TO COMBAT THE FACT

1864
01:35:16,712 --> 01:35:18,172
THAT WOMEN HAVE BEEN
HISTORICALLY EXPECTED

1865
01:35:18,380 --> 01:35:21,175
TO PRIORITIZE DOMESTIC DUTIES
OVER PROFESSIONAL GOALS,

1866
01:35:21,383 --> 01:35:22,968
THUS MINIMIZING
THEIR EARNING POTENTIAL

1867
01:35:23,177 --> 01:35:24,553
IF THEIR TRADITIONAL
MARRIAGES END.

1868
01:35:24,761 --> 01:35:26,597
I'M RIGHT HERE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO YELL.

1869
01:35:26,805 --> 01:35:28,974
I'M READING, FUCKFACE.

1870
01:35:29,183 --> 01:35:30,809
- IT'S FOR THE FUCKING CAMERA.
- I'M TRYING TO FUCKING--

1871
01:35:31,018 --> 01:35:33,187
I'M LETTING EVERYONE ELSE
HEAR IT, OKAY?

1872
01:35:33,395 --> 01:35:35,647
IT'S NOT JUST FOR YOU,
MISTER ENTITLED.

1873
01:35:35,856 --> 01:35:38,192
THE ASSUMPTION
THAT WIVES SHOULD...

1874
01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:40,611
WHY DO YOU THINK
THE MEN'S RIGHTS MOVEMENT

1875
01:35:40,777 --> 01:35:42,905
IS AT ODDS WITH FEMINISM?

1876
01:35:43,113 --> 01:35:46,450
WHAT HAS CREATED THAT CLASH,
THAT WAR BETWEEN EACH OTHER?

1877
01:35:46,658 --> 01:35:50,787
WELL, ONE, FEMINISM
HAS SPENT THE LAST 5O YEARS

1878
01:35:50,954 --> 01:35:54,124
<i>DEMONIZING MEN, WHICH 1S
SORT OF ONE OF THE PROBLEMS.</i>

1879
01:35:54,333 --> 01:35:56,793
FEMINIST SCHOLARS
HAVE CHARACTERIZED MEN

1880
01:35:57,002 --> 01:35:59,296
AS INHERENTLY VIOLENT,
INHERENTLY BAD,

1881
01:35:59,504 --> 01:36:02,132
INHERENTLY PREDATORY,
INHERENTLY OPPRESSIVE.

1882
01:36:02,341 --> 01:36:05,761
THEY HAVE POSTULATED THAT
MASCULINITY IS A DISEASE.

1883
01:36:05,969 --> 01:36:09,306
FEMINISTS AREN'T
THE ONLY PROBLEM.

1884
01:36:09,514 --> 01:36:11,516
THE PROBLEMS DIDN'T START
WITH FEMINISM.

1885
01:36:11,725 --> 01:36:13,810
SO WHEN I START
CRITICIZING FEMINISM,

1886
01:36:14,019 --> 01:36:19,233
<i>1 WANT YOU TO KNOW YOU'RE
JUST PART OF THE PROBLEM.</i>

1887
01:36:19,441 --> 01:36:20,859
THEY'RE JUST PART
OF THE PROBLEM.

1888
01:36:21,068 --> 01:36:23,820
YOU CALLING MEN OPPRESSORS

1889
01:36:24,029 --> 01:36:27,449
AND WOMEN OPPRESSED
DEMONIZES MEN,

1890
01:36:27,658 --> 01:36:30,619
AND I BELIEVE DIMINISHES
WOMEN AT THE SAME TIME.

1891
01:36:30,786 --> 01:36:32,663
IT'S A WAY OF TELLING MEN
TO SHUT UP.

1892
01:36:32,871 --> 01:36:34,081
IT'S A WAY OF TELLING MEN

1893
01:36:34,289 --> 01:36:35,791
THAT THEIR EXPERIENCES
DON'T MATTER.

1894
01:36:35,999 --> 01:36:37,960
YOU TELL A MAN
HE'S PRIVILEGED,

1895
01:36:38,168 --> 01:36:40,337
THEREFORE, ANYTHING
HE'S GONE THROUGH

1896
01:36:40,545 --> 01:36:42,464
OR ANYTHING HE HAS TO SAY
DOESN'T MATTER.

1897
01:36:42,673 --> 01:36:44,258
HIS LIVED EXPERIENCES
DON'T MATTER

1898
01:36:44,466 --> 01:36:45,676
BECAUSE HE'S PRIVILEGED.

1899
01:36:49,638 --> 01:36:52,516
<i>SO HOW OLD WERE YOU WHEN YOU STARTED
CALLING YOURSELF A FEMINIST?</i>

1900
01:36:52,724 --> 01:36:54,851
OR HOW MANY YEARS AGO?

1901
01:36:55,060 --> 01:36:59,064
IT VVAS PROBABLY, ABOUT THREE
YEARS AGC, I GUESS YOU CAN SAY.

1902
01:36:59,273 --> 01:37:01,775
I'M RELATIVELY NEW, YEAH.

1903
01:37:01,984 --> 01:37:04,278
BUT I'M PRETTY LOUD, SO...

1904
01:37:04,486 --> 01:37:07,447
SILENCE ONLY HELPS THE
OPPRESSOR, NOT THE OPPRESSED.

1905
01:37:07,656 --> 01:37:09,283
[JAYE] A LOT OF IVIRAS
SAY THAT FEMINISM

1906
01:37:09,491 --> 01:37:11,493
DOESN'T FIGHT
FOR THE RIGHTS OF MEN.

1907
01:37:11,702 --> 01:37:13,078
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THAT?

1908
01:37:13,287 --> 01:37:15,247
CRY ME A RIVER, REALLY,

1909
01:37:15,455 --> 01:37:17,624
BECAUSE FEMINISM
IS A MOVEMENT

1910
01:37:17,833 --> 01:37:19,960
ABOUT THE DISCREPANCIES

1911
01:37:20,168 --> 01:37:23,714
WHEN IT COMES
TO WOMEN'S EQUALITY.

1912
01:37:23,922 --> 01:37:26,800
BECAUSE WE'RE NOT UP.
WE'RE STILL NOT THERE YET.

1913
01:37:27,009 --> 01:37:30,304
YOU KNOVV, DON'T EVEN
START VVITH THAT VVHOLE

1914
01:37:30,512 --> 01:37:32,097
"OH, BUT YOU DON'T THINK
ABOUT THE MEN'S ISSUE."

1915
01:37:32,306 --> 01:37:33,765
WELL, THEN YOU KNOW WHAT?

1916
01:37:33,974 --> 01:37:36,101
START YOUR OVVN GODDAMN
MOVEMENT, VVHICH THEY HAVE,

1917
01:37:36,310 --> 01:37:39,396
BUT MAYBE MAKE IT A LITTLE
MORE ABOUT LEGITIMATE ISSUES

1918
01:37:39,604 --> 01:37:41,690
LIKE CUSTODY AND ALIMONY

1919
01:37:41,898 --> 01:37:43,900
AND THINGS THAT
YOU THINK ARE UNEQUAL,

1920
01:37:44,109 --> 01:37:45,986
WHICH ALL STEM
FROM PATRIARCHY,

1921
01:37:46,194 --> 01:37:48,030
NOT FROM, "OH, MY GOD,

1922
01:37:48,238 --> 01:37:50,699
FEMINISTS ARE TRYING
TO TAKE AWAY OUR KIDS."

1923
01:37:50,866 --> 01:37:52,534
NO, DIPSHIT.

1924
01:37:52,743 --> 01:37:54,202
THAT'S NOT WHAT
WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

1925
01:37:54,411 --> 01:37:55,746
WE'RE NOT TRYING
TO DO THAT.

1926
01:37:55,912 --> 01:37:58,790
I MEAN, IF THEY LOOK
AT THE ROOT CAUSES OF WHY,

1927
01:37:58,999 --> 01:38:04,546
FOR EXAMPLE, WOMEN GET CUSTODY
MORE OFTEN THAN MEN DO,

1928
01:38:04,755 --> 01:38:06,465
WOMEN ARE SUPPOSED TO
BE THE MOTHERS.

1929
01:38:06,673 --> 01:38:08,800
THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE
THE NATURAL BORN CAREGIVERS.

1930
01:38:09,009 --> 01:38:11,553
SO, OBVIOUSLY, DUH,
YOU HAS A VAGINA,

1931
01:38:11,762 --> 01:38:14,723
SO, OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE GONNA BE
ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THE KIDDIES.

1932
01:38:14,931 --> 01:38:16,350
THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT IS.

1933
01:38:16,558 --> 01:38:18,935
IT ALL STEMS FROM
SEXISM AGAINST WOMEN.

1934
01:38:19,144 --> 01:38:24,358
IT'S JUST, THE OPPRESSION
DIALECTIC NEEDS TO GO.

1935
01:38:24,566 --> 01:38:28,153
IT'S SO HARD
TO CONVINCE PEOPLE

1936
01:38:28,362 --> 01:38:30,864
TO LOOK AT MEN'S RIGHTS
ACTIVISM AND SUPPORT IT

1937
01:38:31,073 --> 01:38:35,118
WITHOUT FIRST ALLOWING THEM
TO AT LEAST ESCAPE

1938
01:38:35,327 --> 01:38:39,915
THE STRANGLEHOLD THAT
FEMINISM HAS ON THEIR MINDS.

1939
01:38:40,123 --> 01:38:43,668
I DO BELIEVE IT IS DOGMA.
IT'S ZEALOTRY.

1940
01:38:43,877 --> 01:38:46,922
THERE ARE GOOD PEOPLE
IN THE FEMINIST MOVEMENT.

1941
01:38:48,757 --> 01:38:50,592
UM...

1942
01:38:50,801 --> 01:38:51,843
THERE ARE NOT GOOD PEOPLE

1943
01:38:52,052 --> 01:38:53,553
IN THE RADICAL
FEMINIST MOVEMENT.

1944
01:38:55,555 --> 01:38:58,975
UM...

1945
01:38:59,184 --> 01:39:01,395
THAT SYSTEM
IS BASED ON HATE,

1946
01:39:01,603 --> 01:39:03,605
AND HATE-- IN MY OPINION,

1947
01:39:03,814 --> 01:39:05,982
HATE'S THE MOST DESTRUCTIVE
FORCE IN THE WORLD.

1948
01:39:06,191 --> 01:39:08,527
THEY'RE SO QUICK TO CALL US

1949
01:39:08,735 --> 01:39:10,779
MAN-HATERS OR MISANDRISTS.

1950
01:39:10,946 --> 01:39:13,198
MISANDRY FOR LIFE.
NO. [LAUGHS]

1951
01:39:13,407 --> 01:39:14,616
THEY'RE SO QUICK TO SAY THAT,

1952
01:39:14,825 --> 01:39:16,493
WHEN ALL WE'RE DOING
IS TALKING ABOUT

1953
01:39:16,701 --> 01:39:18,954
PATRIARCHAL SOCIETIES
AND STRUCTURES

1954
01:39:19,162 --> 01:39:22,374
THAT WE WANT TO DISMANTLE.

1955
01:39:22,624 --> 01:39:24,626
NOTHING AGAINST MEN
IN PARTICULAR,

1956
01:39:24,835 --> 01:39:27,003
BUT JUST SAYING, HEY, THIS IS
THE SYSTEM THAT VVE LIVE IN

1957
01:39:27,212 --> 01:39:28,797
AND THIS PUTS MEN
ABOVE WOMEN.

1958
01:39:29,005 --> 01:39:30,799
AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY
THEIR FAULT,

1959
01:39:30,966 --> 01:39:33,009
BUT, HEY, RECOGNIZE
WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE

1960
01:39:33,218 --> 01:39:35,220
AND LET'S WORK TOGETHER
TO DISMANTLE IT.

1961
01:39:35,429 --> 01:39:39,224
THE OMNIPOTENT,
EVER-PRESENT PATRIARCHY,

1962
01:39:39,433 --> 01:39:42,811
THE INVISIBLE FORCE
THAT DIRECTS

1963
01:39:43,019 --> 01:39:45,272
ALL OF OUR LIVES, RIGHT?

1964
01:39:45,480 --> 01:39:49,025
AND CAUSES ALL OPPRESSION
AND ALL SUFFERING, RIGHT?

1965
01:39:49,234 --> 01:39:51,528
OUR DEVIL.

1966
01:39:51,736 --> 01:39:56,366
AND THE BEAUTIFUL,
WONDERFUL FORCE FOR JUSTICE--

1967
01:39:56,575 --> 01:39:59,035
FEMINISM, THE WAY.

1968
01:39:59,244 --> 01:40:01,538
IT'S THE WAY.

1969
01:40:01,746 --> 01:40:05,083
IT SOUNDS LIKE RELIGION.
IT SOUNDS LIKE RELIGION.

1970
01:40:08,420 --> 01:40:09,671
AND, OH, MY GOODNESS,

1971
01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:12,591
FOR A MOMENT THAT'S ONLY
ABOUT EQUALITY

1972
01:40:12,799 --> 01:40:14,259
AND ISN'T BLAMING OF MEN,

1973
01:40:14,468 --> 01:40:17,053
THEY NAMED THE FORCE
FOR EVIL AFTER MEN

1974
01:40:17,262 --> 01:40:19,389
AND THE FORCE FOR JUSTICE
AFTER WOMEN.

1975
01:40:19,598 --> 01:40:23,226
[CROWD CHATTER INCREASES]

1976
01:40:48,043 --> 01:40:51,046
[CHATTER CONTINUES]

1977
01:41:07,687 --> 01:41:09,898
THEY'RE REALLY ANGRY,
AND THEY'RE ANGRY AT WOMEN,

1978
01:41:10,106 --> 01:41:12,192
THEY'RE ANGRY
AT FEMINIST WOMEN.

1979
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:16,112
YES, MEN HAVE GOTTEN
A CRAPPY DEAL,

1980
01:41:16,321 --> 01:41:19,407
BUT IT'S NOT THE FAULT
OF WOMEN OR GAY PEOPLE.

1981
01:41:19,616 --> 01:41:23,119
VVHEN FEMINISM SAYS THAT THEY
HAVE NO PART IN ANY OF THIS,

1982
01:41:23,328 --> 01:41:26,081
I THINK THEY'RE NOT
BEING HONEST ABOUT IT.

1983
01:41:26,289 --> 01:41:28,333
I DON'T BLAME FEMINISM
FOR ALL OF IT,

1984
01:41:28,542 --> 01:41:30,544
BUT I THINK THEY'VE HAD
A ROLE IN IT.

1985
01:41:30,752 --> 01:41:32,921
THEY'VE WRITTEN LAWS
THAT DISCRIMINATE AGAINST MEN.

1986
01:41:33,129 --> 01:41:35,131
THEY'VE FOUGHT
TO PROTECT THOSE LAWS,

1987
01:41:35,340 --> 01:41:37,551
PARTICULARLY
IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AREAS.

1988
01:41:37,759 --> 01:41:40,929
AND FOR MANY, MANY YEARS,
SECOND WAVE FEMINISM

1989
01:41:41,096 --> 01:41:42,556
WOULD GO THROUGH
THE STATUTES

1990
01:41:42,764 --> 01:41:44,933
AND CHANGE EVERYTHING
THAT WAS GENDER SPECIFIC

1991
01:41:45,141 --> 01:41:46,643
TO SOMETHING GENDER NEUTRAL

1992
01:41:46,851 --> 01:41:48,562
UNLESS IT WAS SOMETHING
THAT BENEFITED WOMEN,

1993
01:41:48,770 --> 01:41:50,146
LIKE THE DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE LAWS.

1994
01:41:50,355 --> 01:41:52,232
THEY DIDN'T CHANGE THOSE.

1995
01:41:52,440 --> 01:41:54,568
OTHER TYPES OF AREAS,
LIKE FATHERS IN PRISON,

1996
01:41:54,776 --> 01:41:57,571
THERE ARE STATUTES THAT SPECIFICALLY
GIVE MOTHERS CERTAIN BENEFITS

1997
01:41:57,779 --> 01:42:00,156
THAT FATHERS IN PRISON
DON'T HAVE.

1998
01:42:00,365 --> 01:42:01,575
AND I CHALLENGED THAT
AS WELL, LEGALLY,

1999
01:42:01,783 --> 01:42:03,076
BUT WE DIDN'T WIN
ON THAT ONE.

2000
01:42:03,285 --> 01:42:05,036
WHEN I WANTED TO GET
A COMMISSION ON MEN

2001
01:42:05,245 --> 01:42:06,830
LIKE THE COUNTY HAS
A COMMISSION ON WOMEN,

2002
01:42:07,038 --> 01:42:10,166
THE FEMINISTS FOUGHT THAT
TOOTH AND NAIL.

2003
01:42:10,375 --> 01:42:13,962
WHEN PROP 209 WAS BEFORE
THE CALIFORNIA VOTERS,

2004
01:42:14,170 --> 01:42:16,089
WHICH WAS TO END
AFFIRMATIVE ACTION,

2005
01:42:16,298 --> 01:42:20,594
EVERY FEMINIST
ORGANIZATION OPPOSED IT.

2006
01:42:20,802 --> 01:42:22,846
EVERY TIME
MEN'S RIGHTS GROUPS

2007
01:42:23,054 --> 01:42:25,599
TRY TO PASS
JOINT CUSTODY LEGISLATION,

2008
01:42:25,807 --> 01:42:27,601
FEMINIST GROUPS FIGHT THEM.

2009
01:42:27,809 --> 01:42:30,061
THEY FOUGHT US
ON PATERNITY FRAUD.

2010
01:42:30,270 --> 01:42:33,148
THE BIGGEST OPPOSITION
THAT I HAVE FACED

2011
01:42:33,356 --> 01:42:35,984
HAS BEEN FROM THE RADICAL
FEMINISTS THAT SAID,

2012
01:42:36,151 --> 01:42:38,403
"WE DON'T WANT TRUTH
TO BE THE STANDARD."

2013
01:42:38,612 --> 01:42:41,197
BECAUSE IF WE DID,
THEY WOULDN'T OPPOSE

2014
01:42:41,406 --> 01:42:43,408
AUTOMATIC
DNA TESTING AT BIRTH.

2015
01:42:43,617 --> 01:42:46,202
AND IN COUNTRIES
LIKE FRANCE,

2016
01:42:46,411 --> 01:42:50,332
THEY'RE SAYING, "WELL,
DNA SHOULD MEAN 'DO NOT ASK,"'

2017
01:42:50,540 --> 01:42:54,002
'CAUSE IT'S NOW ILLEGAL
TO EVEN GET A TEST.

2018
01:42:54,210 --> 01:42:58,089
AND IF YOU GET A TEST WITHOUT
THE MOTHER'S PERMISSION,

2019
01:42:58,298 --> 01:42:59,924
YOU WILL BE
CRIMINALLY PROSECUTED.

2020
01:43:03,178 --> 01:43:06,556
[ANGELUCCI] IN SVVEDEN, THEY
TRIED To CREATE A MAN TAX.

2021
01:43:06,765 --> 01:43:09,225
IN INDIA, THE MEN'S RIGHTS
MOVEMENT IS TRYING TO GET

2022
01:43:09,434 --> 01:43:12,854
THE RAPE LAWS
TO INCLUDE MALE VICTIMS,

2023
01:43:13,063 --> 01:43:16,441
AND THE FEMINIST GROUPS
APPARENTLY ARE FIGHTING THAT.

2024
01:43:16,650 --> 01:43:18,860
I'M NOT SAYING
ALL FEMINISTS ARE THIS WAY.

2025
01:43:19,069 --> 01:43:23,448
BUT I THINK THE ONES WHO
ARE AFFECTING PUBLIC POLICY,

2026
01:43:23,657 --> 01:43:26,534
WHO HAVE THE LOBBYING POWER,
I THINK THEY ARE.

2027
01:43:26,743 --> 01:43:28,662
IF YOU JUST LOOK
AT THEIR ACTIONS,

2028
01:43:28,870 --> 01:43:30,622
THEY DON'T WANT
EQUALITY FOR WOMEN.

2029
01:43:30,830 --> 01:43:34,459
THEY WANT SPECIAL PRIVILEGES
FOR WOMEN AND GIRLS.

2030
01:43:34,668 --> 01:43:37,462
AND EVEN THOUGH THEY KNOW
IN A LOT OF AREAS

2031
01:43:37,671 --> 01:43:41,091
MEN DO NOT HAVE EQUALITY,
THEY ARE SILENT.

2032
01:43:43,218 --> 01:43:44,427
THE COMMANDER
OF THE MARINE CORPS

2033
01:43:44,636 --> 01:43:46,054
SAID THAT HE THINKS,
AND I QUOTE,

2034
01:43:46,221 --> 01:43:48,682
<i>“ ALL ELIGIBLE AND
QUALIFIED MEN AND WOMEN</i>

2035
01:43:48,890 --> 01:43:49,933
SHOULD REGISTER
FOR THE DRAFT,"

2036
01:43:50,141 --> 01:43:51,476
TALKING ABOUT
SELECTIVE SERVICE.

2037
01:43:51,685 --> 01:43:53,603
DO YOU THINK WOMEN
SHOULD ALSO HAVE TO REGISTER

2038
01:43:53,812 --> 01:43:55,397
FOR SELECTIVE SERVICE
LIKE MEN?

2039
01:43:55,605 --> 01:43:59,275
I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHETHER
I THINK IT'S NECESSARY

2040
01:43:59,484 --> 01:44:05,240
TO GO AS FAR AS OUR MILITARY
OFFICERS ARE RECOMMENDING.

2041
01:44:05,448 --> 01:44:09,577
THE IDEA OF HAVING
EVERYBODY REGISTER

2042
01:44:09,786 --> 01:44:11,162
CONCERNS ME A LITTLE BIT,

2043
01:44:11,371 --> 01:44:13,039
UNLESS WE HAVE
A BETTER IDEA

2044
01:44:13,248 --> 01:44:14,666
OF WHERE THAT'S
GONNA COME OUT.

2045
01:44:14,874 --> 01:44:16,501
WHERE I WANT PEOPLE
TO REGISTER,

2046
01:44:16,710 --> 01:44:19,421
I WANT EVERY YOUNG PERSON
TO REGISTER AT THE AGE OF 18

2047
01:44:19,587 --> 01:44:21,172
TO BE ABLE TO VOTE
AUTOMATICALLY.

2048
01:44:21,381 --> 01:44:23,508
- AND I THINK IF...
-[APPLAUSE]

2049
01:44:28,638 --> 01:44:30,098
WHAT'S THE MOTIVATION?

2050
01:44:30,306 --> 01:44:31,933
PEOPLE DON'T ASK,
WHAT'S THE MOTIVATION?

2051
01:44:32,142 --> 01:44:33,101
DO WE NEED
A MEN'S RIGHTS MOMENT?

2052
01:44:33,309 --> 01:44:36,104
NO. WE NEED COMMON SENSE.

2053
01:44:36,271 --> 01:44:38,523
BUT IF THERE'S GONNA BE
THIS WOMAN'S MOVEMENT

2054
01:44:38,732 --> 01:44:41,943
AND THIS IS THE MOVEMENT THAT'S
GONNA DO ALL THESE THINGS,

2055
01:44:42,152 --> 01:44:43,945
THEN MAYBE WE NEED
A COUNTERBALANCE,

2056
01:44:44,154 --> 01:44:45,947
SOMETHING CALLED
A MEN'S RIGHTS MOVEMENT,

2057
01:44:46,156 --> 01:44:48,116
OR MEN'S MOVEMENT.

2058
01:44:48,324 --> 01:44:50,118
I HATE TO SEE
EITHER ONE OF THEM.

2059
01:44:50,326 --> 01:44:52,912
I THINK IT'S A SHAME.
I THINK IT'S DESTRUCTIVE.

2060
01:45:01,296 --> 01:45:05,341
[JAYE] I'M HEARING VVHAT THE MEN'S
RIGHTS ACTIVISTS ARE SAYING.

2061
01:45:05,550 --> 01:45:07,051
AND I'M FINDING THE SOURCES

2062
01:45:07,260 --> 01:45:09,137
TO SUPPORT
WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.

2063
01:45:09,345 --> 01:45:11,765
MEN ARE JUST AS LIKELY
TO BE VICTIMS

2064
01:45:11,973 --> 01:45:15,143
OF INTIMATE PARTNER
PHYSICAL VIOLENCE.

2065
01:45:15,351 --> 01:45:19,397
MEN HAVE LITTLE TO NO CONTROL
OVER THEIR PARENTAL DESTINY,

2066
01:45:19,606 --> 01:45:22,066
ESPECIALLY WHEN HE'S TRICKED
INTO FATHERHOOD

2067
01:45:22,275 --> 01:45:23,568
OR HE'S RAISING A CHILD

2068
01:45:23,777 --> 01:45:27,155
THAT HE LATER FINDS OUT
ISN'T HIS.

2069
01:45:27,363 --> 01:45:29,574
THE SENTENCING DISPARITY
BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN

2070
01:45:29,783 --> 01:45:32,994
IS SIX TIMES LARGER
THAN THE SENTENCING DISPARITY

2071
01:45:33,203 --> 01:45:36,039
BETWEEN BLACKS AND WHITES.

2072
01:45:36,247 --> 01:45:38,374
SO WHILE A BLACK MAN
MAY BE SENTENCED

2073
01:45:38,583 --> 01:45:40,376
TO TEN PERCENT
MORE PRISON TIME

2074
01:45:40,585 --> 01:45:43,588
FOR THE SAME CRIME
AS A WHITE MAN,

2075
01:45:43,797 --> 01:45:48,009
A MAN IS SENTENCED
TO OVER 60°/o MORE PRISON TIME

2076
01:45:48,218 --> 01:45:51,054
THAN A WOMAN ARRESTED
FOR THE SAME CRIME.

2077
01:45:52,764 --> 01:45:55,391
BOYS ARE FALLING BEHIND
IN EDUCATION.

2078
01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:57,811
THEY ARE ENROLLING
AT LOWER RATES

2079
01:45:58,019 --> 01:46:01,397
AND EARNING
LESS COLLEGE DEGREES.

2080
01:46:01,606 --> 01:46:04,108
AND WHILE NOT ALL MRAS
AGREE ON THE ISSUE

2081
01:46:04,317 --> 01:46:06,402
OF INFANT MALE CIRCUMCISION,

2082
01:46:06,611 --> 01:46:11,199
MOST MRAS DO BELIEVE IT IS
A HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION.

2083
01:46:11,366 --> 01:46:14,702
I SPENT MONTHS LEARNING ABOUT
INFANT MALE CIRCUMCISION,

2084
01:46:14,911 --> 01:46:17,455
BUT IT ONLY TOOK ME
WATCHING A FIVE-MINUTE

2085
01:46:17,664 --> 01:46:20,708
MEDICAL TRAINING VIDEO
TO CONVINCE ME

2086
01:46:20,917 --> 01:46:24,003
THIS IS A BARBARIC PRACTICE
THAT NEEDS TO STOP.

2087
01:46:24,212 --> 01:46:27,048
OKAY, SO FIRST THING,
MAKE SURE HE'S WELL RESTRAINED.

2088
01:46:27,257 --> 01:46:30,426
SO THE FORESKIN. OKAY?

2089
01:46:30,635 --> 01:46:33,638
AND WE REPEAT THE PROCESS WITH
JUST ONE END ON AND CLAMP.

2090
01:46:33,847 --> 01:46:35,515
ANYTHING THAT GETS CLAMPED
GETS CUT.

2091
01:46:35,723 --> 01:46:37,225
<i>[REPORTER] ALL THAT WAS
LEFT, A PARTIAL PENIS</i>

2092
01:46:37,433 --> 01:46:39,143
AND HIS TINY TESTICLES.

2093
01:46:39,352 --> 01:46:43,064
RHODES SAYS ASHTON URINATES
THROUGH A HOLE IN HIS PENIS.

2094
01:46:43,273 --> 01:46:45,650
SHE SAYS SHE CAN'T IMAGINE NOVV
VVHAT SHE'LL SAY TO HER SON

2095
01:46:45,859 --> 01:46:46,860
WHEN HE'S OLD ENOUGH
TO UNDERSTAND

2096
01:46:47,068 --> 01:46:48,152
WHAT'S HAPPENED TO HIM.

2097
01:46:48,361 --> 01:46:50,071
HOW COULD YOU EXPLAIN IT
TO YOUR CHILD

2098
01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:51,531
THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A PENIS

2099
01:46:51,739 --> 01:46:54,325
OR YOU MIGHT NEVER BE
ABLE TO HAVE KIDS?

2100
01:47:03,251 --> 01:47:05,461
[JAYE]
YES, MEN ARE THE MAJORITY

2101
01:47:05,670 --> 01:47:08,590
OF WORKPLACE DEATHS
AND INJURIES,

2102
01:47:08,798 --> 01:47:13,469
WAR DEATHS, SUICIDES.

2103
01:47:13,678 --> 01:47:15,638
THEY HAVE A SHORTER
LIFE EXPECTANCY.

2104
01:47:18,224 --> 01:47:19,475
WARREN FARRELL
MAKES THE ARGUMENT

2105
01:47:19,684 --> 01:47:21,269
THAT PROSTATE CANCER
AND BREAST CANCER

2106
01:47:21,436 --> 01:47:24,272
MORTALITY RATES ARE SIMILAR,

2107
01:47:24,480 --> 01:47:26,482
BUT FUNDING
DISPROPORTIONATELY SUPPORTS

2108
01:47:26,691 --> 01:47:28,902
BREAST CANCER RESEARCH
AND AWARENESS

2109
01:47:29,110 --> 01:47:30,653
OVER PROSTATE CANCER.

2110
01:47:34,282 --> 01:47:38,703
THE RED PILL IS ABOUT
LOOKING AT THESE ISSUES

2111
01:47:38,912 --> 01:47:41,664
IN AN HONEST WAY,
EVEN WHEN IT'S UNCOMFORTABLE.

2112
01:47:41,873 --> 01:47:44,042
AND THESE THINGS
ARE UNCOMFORTABLE.

2113
01:47:44,250 --> 01:47:49,088
BUT WITHOUT THE WILLINGNESS

2114
01:47:49,297 --> 01:47:51,507
TO SET ASIDE THE PROGRAMMING

2115
01:47:51,716 --> 01:47:54,510
<i>AND TO SET ASIDE THE FALSE
BELIEFS ABOUT WHAT POWER 1S</i>

2116
01:47:54,719 --> 01:47:57,597
AND WHAT WOMEN ARE
AND WHO WOMEN ARE--

2117
01:47:57,805 --> 01:48:02,560
PART OF VVHAT VVE DO IS A PRETTY
SERIOUS CRITIQUE OF BOTH SEXES.

2118
01:48:02,769 --> 01:48:04,020
IT'S BRUTAL.

2119
01:48:04,228 --> 01:48:06,022
BUT CRITIQUING THE SEXES

2120
01:48:06,230 --> 01:48:08,316
IS A REAL VALUABLE THING.

2121
01:48:08,524 --> 01:48:11,152
FEMINISTS DON'T WANT YOU
TO DO IT, THOUGH,

2122
01:48:11,361 --> 01:48:12,946
UNLESS YOU'RE PORTRAYING
WOMEN AS THE VICTIM

2123
01:48:13,154 --> 01:48:15,239
AND MEN AS PERPETRATOR.

2124
01:48:15,448 --> 01:48:17,533
THE RED PILL IS
ABOUT UNDERSTANDING

2125
01:48:17,742 --> 01:48:19,744
MEN AND WOMEN LIKE
EVERYTHING ELSE IN LIFE.

2126
01:48:19,953 --> 01:48:21,287
IT'S A MIXED BAG.

2127
01:48:21,454 --> 01:48:22,997
YOU'VE GOT VICTIMS
AND PERPETRATORS

2128
01:48:23,164 --> 01:48:24,499
ON BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE.

2129
01:48:24,707 --> 01:48:26,960
AND THAT'S ALL.
IT'S REAL SIMPLE.

2130
01:48:27,168 --> 01:48:28,378
IT'S JUST NOT EASY.

2131
01:48:32,507 --> 01:48:35,385
HMM.

2132
01:48:35,593 --> 01:48:38,680
I-- I THINK I AGREE
WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID.

2133
01:48:38,888 --> 01:48:42,976
BUT THERE'S-- THERE'S STILL
SOME KIND OF UNSETTLING DOUBT,

2134
01:48:43,184 --> 01:48:46,771
AND I DON'T KNOW
WHERE THAT'S COMING FROM.

2135
01:48:46,980 --> 01:48:49,148
[JAYE]
I'M RECOGNIZING ALL OF THESE

2136
01:48:49,357 --> 01:48:52,026
VERY SERIOUS
MEN'S RIGHTS ISSUES.

2137
01:48:52,235 --> 01:48:54,946
BUT WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND

2138
01:48:55,154 --> 01:48:57,573
IS HOW I COULD BE AGREEING

2139
01:48:57,782 --> 01:49:01,202
WITH MEN'S RIGHTS ACTIVISTS.

2140
01:49:01,411 --> 01:49:03,663
IS THIS THE SAME
MISOGYNIST HATE GROUP

2141
01:49:03,871 --> 01:49:07,750
I ORIGINALLY
DISCOVERED ONLINE?

2142
01:49:07,959 --> 01:49:09,210
<i>[REPORTER] THE SOUTHERN
POVERTY LAW CENTER</i>

2143
01:49:09,419 --> 01:49:10,795
HAS CLASSIFIED THAT GROUP

2144
01:49:11,004 --> 01:49:13,297
AND MEN'S RIGHTS GROUPS
AS HATE GROUPS.

2145
01:49:13,506 --> 01:49:16,384
<i>[JAYE] 1 LOOKED INTO WHAT 1
WAS HEARING FROM FEMINISTS</i>

2146
01:49:16,551 --> 01:49:19,929
AND THE MASS MEDIA ABOUT
THE MEN'S RIGHTS MOVEMENT.

2147
01:49:20,138 --> 01:49:21,597
I'VE READ A LOT
AND I'VE HEARD A LOT

2148
01:49:21,806 --> 01:49:23,599
THAT THE MEN'S RIGHTS MOVEMENT

2149
01:49:23,808 --> 01:49:25,393
HAS BEEN LABELED A HATE GROUP

2150
01:49:25,601 --> 01:49:27,603
BY THE SOUTHERN POVERTY
LAW CENTER.

2151
01:49:27,812 --> 01:49:29,814
- IS THAT CORRECT?
- YEAH, THAT'S NOT QUITE TRUE.

2152
01:49:30,023 --> 01:49:31,816
NO, THEY GOT IT WRONG. NO.

2153
01:49:32,025 --> 01:49:33,860
THIS WAS SOMEHOW WRITTEN UP

2154
01:49:34,068 --> 01:49:36,446
ON SOME KIND OF
ANTI-MEN'S RIGHTS WEBSITES

2155
01:49:36,612 --> 01:49:39,032
AS US HAVING LISTED THEM
AS HATE GROUPS AND SO ON.

2156
01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:40,241
THAT WE DIDN'T DO.

2157
01:49:47,749 --> 01:49:52,045
[MAN]
HE WROTE A PIECE

2158
01:49:52,253 --> 01:49:55,048
DECLARING THE MONTH
OF OCTOBER TO BE

2159
01:49:55,256 --> 01:49:57,842
"BASH A VIOLENT BITCH MONTH."

2160
01:49:58,051 --> 01:49:59,844
[MAN

2161
01:50:00,053 --> 01:50:02,305
[REPORTER] "I MEAN, LITERALLY
To GRAB THEM BY THE HAIR

2162
01:50:02,513 --> 01:50:05,183
AND SMACK THEIR FACE
AGAINST THE WALL," HE WROTE.

2163
01:50:09,020 --> 01:50:11,272
[JAYE] I THEN DISCOVERED
THAT PAUL ELAM'S FAMOUS

2164
01:50:11,481 --> 01:50:14,609
"BASH A VIOLENT BITCH" ARTICLE
WAS WRITTEN IN RESPONSE

2165
01:50:14,817 --> 01:50:17,028
TO THIS ARTICLE
BY JEZEBEL CALLED...

2166
01:50:21,908 --> 01:50:24,077
THE ARTICLE CITED
A STUDY THAT REVEALED

2167
01:50:24,285 --> 01:50:27,038
70°/o OF NON-RECIPROCATED
VIOLENCE

2168
01:50:27,246 --> 01:50:29,165
WAS PERPETUATED BY WOMEN.

2169
01:50:29,373 --> 01:50:31,084
THE AUTHOR THEN
WENT ON TO SAY

2170
01:50:31,292 --> 01:50:34,087
THAT SHE CONDUCTED AN
INFORMAL SURVEY AT THE OFFICE

2171
01:50:34,295 --> 01:50:35,880
AND THE GIST OF HER FINDINGS

2172
01:50:36,089 --> 01:50:39,759
WAS THAT MANY WOMEN HAD
PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED THEIR MAN,

2173
01:50:39,967 --> 01:50:43,304
AND IT WAS INTERPRETED
AS EITHER BEING FUNNY

2174
01:50:43,513 --> 01:50:46,808
OR HE WAS ASKING FOR IT.

2175
01:50:47,016 --> 01:50:48,684
I COULDN'T HELP
BUT SEE THE HYPOCRISY

2176
01:50:48,893 --> 01:50:52,897
IN A MAJOR FEMINIST WEBSITE
MAKING LIGHT OF ABUSING MEN,

2177
01:50:53,106 --> 01:50:55,483
AND MRAS STINGING BACK

2178
01:50:55,691 --> 01:50:58,569
ONLY TO HAVE THE MEDIA
PAINT THEM AS THE ABUSERS.

2179
01:52:00,923 --> 01:52:05,720
[SNICKERING]

2180
01:52:16,731 --> 01:52:20,776
<i>AFTER MY YEAR OF FILMING MEN'S
RIGHTS ACTIVISTS AND FEMINISTS</i>

2181
01:52:20,985 --> 01:52:22,570
MY DESCENT
INTO THE RABBIT HOLE

2182
01:52:22,778 --> 01:52:25,990
WAS NOT SLOWING DOWN.

2183
01:52:26,199 --> 01:52:27,491
MY EDUCATION
ON GENDER POLITICS

2184
01:52:27,700 --> 01:52:30,953
WAS REALLY JUST BEGINNING.

2185
01:52:31,162 --> 01:52:33,915
I LEARNED ABOUT OTHER SECTORS
OF THE ONLINE MANOSPHERE,

2186
01:52:34,123 --> 01:52:37,001
LIKE MGTOW,
"MEN GOING THEIR OWN WAY,"

2187
01:52:37,210 --> 01:52:40,588
AND FORUM ON REDDIT
CALLED "THE RED PILL,"

2188
01:52:40,796 --> 01:52:42,215
WHICH IS SEPARATE FROM
THE MEN'S RIGHTS COMMUNITY,

2189
01:52:42,423 --> 01:52:46,219
AND THEY DO NOT SEE
EYE TO EYE.

2190
01:52:46,427 --> 01:52:48,429
I'M TOLD AN EASY WAY
TO REMEMBER THE DIFFERENCE

2191
01:52:48,638 --> 01:52:52,808
IS THAT WHILE MRAS WANT
TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM

2192
01:52:53,017 --> 01:52:56,646
<i>REDD1T'S “THE RED PILL“ WANT TO
TAKE ADV ANT AGE OF THE SYSTEM,</i>

2193
01:52:56,812 --> 01:52:58,981
AND MGTOW WANT
TO LEAVE THE SYSTEM.

2194
01:53:01,400 --> 01:53:03,903
THERE ARE SO MANY
PERSPECTIVES ON GENDER,

2195
01:53:04,111 --> 01:53:07,114
AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE
ALL WORTHY OF LISTENING TO.

2196
01:53:07,323 --> 01:53:11,452
HOWEVER, THE CONVERSATION
IS BEING SILENCED.

2197
01:53:11,661 --> 01:53:13,996
FOR A SOCIETY TO ACCEPT
ANYTHING SAID

2198
01:53:14,205 --> 01:53:15,998
ON BEHALF OF WOMEN'S RIGHTS

2199
01:53:16,207 --> 01:53:19,460
AND THEN TO SHAME ANY
DIALOGUE ABOUT MEN'S RIGHTS

2200
01:53:19,669 --> 01:53:23,256
AND CALL IT HATE SPEECH
IS PRECISELY THE PROBLEM.

2201
01:53:23,464 --> 01:53:25,466
<i>[CROWD] THIS 1S WHAT MEN'S
RIGHTS LOOK LIKE'.!</i>

2202
01:53:25,675 --> 01:53:27,260
[JAYE]
I DON'T KNOW WHERE I'M HEADED,

2203
01:53:27,468 --> 01:53:30,638
BUT I KNOW WHAT I LEFT BEHIND.

2204
01:53:30,846 --> 01:53:33,057
I NO LONGER CALL MYSELF
A FEMINIST.

2205
01:53:33,266 --> 01:53:37,603
[MUSIC PLAYING]

2206
01:53:40,815 --> 01:53:43,234
[VOCALIZING]

2207
01:53:53,828 --> 01:53:56,998
[VOCALIZING]

2208
01:54:06,257 --> 01:54:07,425
♪ JUST THINK ABOUT IT

2209
01:54:07,633 --> 01:54:09,093
♪ PUT ON SOME BORROWED KICKS

2210
01:54:09,302 --> 01:54:10,886
♪ HANG ALL YOUR NOTIONS UP

2211
01:54:11,095 --> 01:54:12,513
♪ IT'S NEVER WHAT IT IS

2212
01:54:12,722 --> 01:54:14,348
♪ WISDOM IS ASKING WHY

2213
01:54:14,557 --> 01:54:16,100
♪ THERE IS ANOTHER SIDE

2214
01:54:16,309 --> 01:54:17,893
♪ DOWN WHERE
THE RABBIT LIVES

2215
01:54:18,102 --> 01:54:19,520
♪ MY WORLD WILL
BLOW YOUR MIND

2216
01:54:19,729 --> 01:54:21,522
♪ JUST HAVE A LOOK AT IT

2217
01:54:21,731 --> 01:54:23,524
♪ THINK, THINK ABOUT IT

2218
01:54:23,733 --> 01:54:25,109
♪ JUST THINK ABOUT IT

2219
01:54:25,318 --> 01:54:26,902
♪ THINK, THINK ABOUT IT

2220
01:54:27,111 --> 01:54:28,529
♪ JUST THINK ABOUT IT

2221
01:54:28,738 --> 01:54:30,323
♪ THINK, THINK ABOUT IT

2222
01:54:30,531 --> 01:54:31,907
♪ JUST THINK ABOUT IT

2223
01:54:32,116 --> 01:54:33,784
♪ THINK, THINK ABOUT IT

2224
01:54:33,993 --> 01:54:35,328
♪ JUST THINK ABOUT IT

2225
01:54:35,536 --> 01:54:38,622
[VOCALIZING]

2226
01:54:48,090 --> 01:54:50,092
♪ JUST THINK ABOUT IT

2227
01:54:56,307 --> 01:54:57,933
♪ DON'T GOTTA
CHANGE YOUR MIND

2228
01:54:58,142 --> 01:54:59,560
♪ JUST TRY TO OPEN IT

2229
01:54:59,769 --> 01:55:01,354
♪ I'LL LET YOU USE MY EYES

2230
01:55:01,562 --> 01:55:02,938
♪ SEE WHAT I'M DEALING WITH

2231
01:55:03,147 --> 01:55:05,149
♪ PEOPLE WITH
DIFFERENT STORIES

2232
01:55:05,358 --> 01:55:08,569
♪ DIVIDED BY
DIFFERENT CATEGORIES

2233
01:55:08,778 --> 01:55:10,154
♪ AND REASONS WHY

2234
01:55:10,363 --> 01:55:12,156
♪ THE SMART SPEAK

2235
01:55:12,365 --> 01:55:14,158
♪ THE WISE, THEY LISTEN

2236
01:55:14,367 --> 01:55:15,701
♪ THE WISE, THEY LISTEN

2237
01:55:15,910 --> 01:55:17,119
♪ JUST THINK ABOUT IT

2238
01:55:17,328 --> 01:55:18,996
♪ THINK, THINK ABOUT IT

2239
01:55:19,205 --> 01:55:20,581
♪ JUST THINK ABOUT IT

2240
01:55:20,790 --> 01:55:22,583
♪ THINK, THINK ABOUT IT

2241
01:55:22,792 --> 01:55:24,126
♪ JUST THINK ABOUT IT

2242
01:55:24,335 --> 01:55:25,878
♪ THINK, THINK ABOUT IT

2243
01:55:26,087 --> 01:55:27,630
♪ JUST THINK ABOUT IT

2244
01:55:27,838 --> 01:55:29,382
♪ THINK, THINK ABOUT IT

2245
01:55:29,590 --> 01:55:30,966
♪ JUST THINK ABOUT IT

2246
01:55:31,175 --> 01:55:34,345
[VOCALIZING]

2247
01:55:36,764 --> 01:55:37,932
♪ JUST THINK ABOUT IT

2248
01:55:43,562 --> 01:55:45,147
♪ JUST THINK ABOUT IT

2249
01:56:27,189 --> 01:56:28,816
♪ THINK ABOUT IT

2250
01:56:29,024 --> 01:56:30,651
♪ THINK ABOUT IT

2251
01:56:30,860 --> 01:56:33,654
♪ THINK ABOUT IT

2252
01:56:33,863 --> 01:56:35,656
♪ THINK, THINK ABOUT IT

2253
01:56:35,865 --> 01:56:37,241
♪ JUST THINK ABOUT IT

2254
01:56:37,450 --> 01:56:39,118
♪ THINK, THINK ABOUT IT

2255
01:56:39,326 --> 01:56:40,661
♪ JUST THINK ABOUT IT

2256
01:56:40,870 --> 01:56:42,580
♪ THINK, THINK ABOUT IT

2257
01:56:42,788 --> 01:56:43,998
♪ JUST THINK ABOUT IT

2258
01:56:44,206 --> 01:56:46,125
♪ THINK, THINK ABOUT IT

2259
01:56:46,333 --> 01:56:47,668
♪ JUST THINK ABOUT IT

2260
01:56:47,877 --> 01:56:51,046
♪ THINK, THINK ABOUT IT

2261
01:56:51,255 --> 01:56:52,673
♪ THINK, THINK ABOUT IT

2262
01:56:52,882 --> 01:56:54,467
♪ YOU GOTTA THINK ABOUT IT

2263
01:56:54,675 --> 01:56:57,845
♪ THINK, THINK ABOUT IT

2264
01:56:58,053 --> 01:56:59,680
♪ THINK, THINK ABOUT IT

2265
01:56:59,889 --> 01:57:01,474
♪ COME ON AND THINK ABOUT IT

2266
01:57:01,682 --> 01:57:04,852
[VOCALIZING]

2267
01:57:05,060 --> 01:57:06,479
♪ THERE IS ANOTHER SIDE

2268
01:57:06,687 --> 01:57:08,439
♪ DOWN WHERE
THE RABBIT LIVES

2269
01:57:11,859 --> 01:57:13,486
♪ I'LL LET YOU USE MY EYES

2270
01:57:13,694 --> 01:57:15,237
♪ SEE WHAT I'M DEALING WITH

2271
01:57:19,033 --> 01:57:20,868
♪ THINK, THINK ABOUT IT

2272
01:57:21,076 --> 01:57:22,411
♪ JUST THINK ABOUT IT

2273
01:57:25,831 --> 01:57:27,708
♪ THINK, THINK ABOUT IT

2274
01:57:27,917 --> 01:57:30,044
♪ JUST THINK ABOUT IT