1 00:00:02,491 --> 00:00:05,891 [ Groaning ] You've been a bad, bad cowboy. 2 00:00:05,958 --> 00:00:08,925 - Oh, beat me, Sheriff. - I'm gonna give you what you want. 3 00:00:08,991 --> 00:00:10,658 That's for sure. 4 00:00:10,725 --> 00:00:12,991 I've been an ornery cowboy, Sheriff. 5 00:00:13,058 --> 00:00:15,425 You have, and you're not gettin' away this time. 6 00:00:15,491 --> 00:00:18,191 [ Man ] Okay, let's stop here a second. 7 00:00:18,258 --> 00:00:20,991 Now, Mr. Goodwin, can you identify the woman on the screen? 8 00:00:21,058 --> 00:00:24,158 Yes, that's Sara. The defendant? 9 00:00:24,225 --> 00:00:26,425 Yes. Good. Now, the scene we're watching-- 10 00:00:26,491 --> 00:00:30,091 - so far it's entirely according to script? - Yes. 11 00:00:30,158 --> 00:00:32,525 Now, you were the director. You were pleased at this point? 12 00:00:32,591 --> 00:00:35,958 Yes. Okay. Let's keep going. 13 00:00:36,025 --> 00:00:39,691 Would you mind explaining to us what's goin' on here? 14 00:00:39,758 --> 00:00:41,991 Uh, besides the obvious, for those of us... 15 00:00:42,058 --> 00:00:44,491 who are not... hard-core aficionados. 16 00:00:44,558 --> 00:00:46,358 Uh, okay. 17 00:00:46,425 --> 00:00:49,658 This is a bondage scene, and, uh, 18 00:00:49,725 --> 00:00:52,925 she's putting on a choke dog collar. 19 00:00:52,991 --> 00:00:56,158 The collar is velvet-lined. 20 00:00:56,225 --> 00:01:00,258 She's now looping the leash part through a supporting slot on the canopy. 21 00:01:00,325 --> 00:01:02,391 She's using the canopy now... 22 00:01:02,458 --> 00:01:05,191 as a fulcrum as she lowers herself. 23 00:01:05,258 --> 00:01:09,825 - This looks painful. - Well, the ecstasy here is in the pain... 24 00:01:09,891 --> 00:01:12,091 and the constriction, usually. 25 00:01:12,158 --> 00:01:14,325 But here-- This is where-- 26 00:01:14,391 --> 00:01:16,491 Well, this is not scripted. 27 00:01:16,558 --> 00:01:18,991 Well, d-did you try and stop them? Did you yell cut? 28 00:01:19,058 --> 00:01:21,458 Well, no, because sometimes the actors take it further, 29 00:01:21,525 --> 00:01:24,325 and sometimes it works for the movie creatively. 30 00:01:24,391 --> 00:01:26,858 And besides, they were a husband-and-wife team, 31 00:01:26,925 --> 00:01:29,558 and they often choreographed their scenes on their own. 32 00:01:29,625 --> 00:01:32,191 When did you realize that things were out of control? 33 00:01:32,258 --> 00:01:36,658 - It was right about here. - Okay, let's just, uh-- we'll just listen. 34 00:01:36,725 --> 00:01:39,858 [ Director, On Film ] Pete? Wait. Hey. 35 00:01:39,925 --> 00:01:43,458 Peter. Wait a minute. Sara, he's not breathing. 36 00:01:43,525 --> 00:01:45,758 [ Man On TV ] What's going on? I don't know. What's wrong? 37 00:01:45,825 --> 00:01:47,725 Call a paramedic. 38 00:01:49,025 --> 00:01:52,758 Geez. I think he's dead. 39 00:01:52,825 --> 00:01:54,625 He's dead. 40 00:01:54,691 --> 00:01:57,058 Are you calling a paramedic? Let me hear from somebody! 41 00:01:57,125 --> 00:02:01,058 - [ Man ] Rick, call a paramedic, will ya? - [ Goodwin ] Pete? 42 00:02:01,125 --> 00:02:03,091 He's dead. 43 00:02:03,158 --> 00:02:06,325 [ Spectators Murmuring ] That wasn't supposed to happen. 44 00:02:06,391 --> 00:02:08,391 That wasn't supposed to happen. 45 00:02:22,791 --> 00:02:24,325 [ Line Ringing ] 46 00:02:31,491 --> 00:02:33,125 [ Cell Door Opens, Closes ] 47 00:02:39,091 --> 00:02:43,591 [ Sirens Wailing ] 48 00:02:57,757 --> 00:02:59,757 Well, we could still go manslaughter. 49 00:03:00,424 --> 00:03:02,257 I thought you said we didn't want that. 50 00:03:02,324 --> 00:03:04,991 We didn't want it charged because we were afraid the jury would opt for it. 51 00:03:05,057 --> 00:03:07,724 By going straight murder one, murder two, it puts a lot of pressure on them. 52 00:03:07,791 --> 00:03:10,624 We did that in the Gerald Braun trial last year and it worked. 53 00:03:10,691 --> 00:03:12,557 Didn't work for that nanny though. 54 00:03:12,624 --> 00:03:14,791 But it was an accident. I understand that, 55 00:03:14,857 --> 00:03:16,991 but obviously the director's gonna be coming out with more, 56 00:03:17,057 --> 00:03:19,457 'cause they didn't have to put him on the stand just to get the film into evidence. 57 00:03:19,524 --> 00:03:22,091 We figure he'll say you killed your husband intentionally. 58 00:03:22,157 --> 00:03:26,657 - He's wrong. - Yeah, Sara, see, the problem here is the film. 59 00:03:26,724 --> 00:03:31,424 You know, the jury just-- They were disgusted before the dog collar even came out. 60 00:03:31,491 --> 00:03:33,824 They are not my audience. 61 00:03:33,891 --> 00:03:36,591 Right, but they're the only audience that counts right now, 62 00:03:36,657 --> 00:03:38,724 and there's a chance that they could say, "Look who she is. 63 00:03:38,791 --> 00:03:40,691 Let's just, you know, throw her in jail." 64 00:03:40,757 --> 00:03:43,857 The character in that film is not me. 65 00:03:43,924 --> 00:03:46,424 Yes, I understand, but that is a tough argument to sell. 66 00:03:46,491 --> 00:03:49,857 You were... really doing it. 67 00:03:49,924 --> 00:03:52,624 We were making a film. 68 00:03:56,457 --> 00:03:58,524 I think I understand. 69 00:03:58,591 --> 00:04:01,291 Tough for the two of you not to judge me, so the jury-- 70 00:04:05,891 --> 00:04:08,924 So you think I should accept a deal? 71 00:04:08,991 --> 00:04:11,691 I think we should see what happens in the next couple of days. 72 00:04:11,757 --> 00:04:13,757 Maybe I can cross the director. Who knows? 73 00:04:13,824 --> 00:04:17,757 But, uh, yeah. You need to start thinking about a deal. 74 00:04:20,657 --> 00:04:23,557 I love a man who can cook. 75 00:04:23,624 --> 00:04:25,891 [ Man On TV ] It's my pleasure. I got a lot of her videos. 76 00:04:25,957 --> 00:04:30,124 You do? The early ones, before she went hard-core. 77 00:04:30,191 --> 00:04:32,191 [ Woman Giggling ] She's... good. 78 00:04:32,257 --> 00:04:35,324 It makes me so... 79 00:04:35,391 --> 00:04:37,691 hot. You think she killed him on purpose? 80 00:04:37,757 --> 00:04:40,124 Who knows? I was readin' they were having problems. 81 00:04:40,191 --> 00:04:43,991 Reading it where? In the porno trades? 82 00:04:44,057 --> 00:04:46,057 Internet. 83 00:04:46,124 --> 00:04:49,057 She really didn't want to be a porn star. She was kind of an innocent. 84 00:04:49,124 --> 00:04:52,024 I could pull it all up. It comes with good pictures. 85 00:04:52,091 --> 00:04:54,657 [ Sara On TV ] What's for dessert? [ TV Turns Off ] 86 00:04:54,724 --> 00:04:56,924 Please-- Don't stop on my account. 87 00:04:56,991 --> 00:04:59,257 What's up? Not us. 88 00:04:59,324 --> 00:05:01,291 I have some bad fiscal news. 89 00:05:03,657 --> 00:05:07,491 - What now? - Since Lindsay cut back on the drug dealers, 90 00:05:07,557 --> 00:05:10,557 we're bringing in about 32,000 less per month. 91 00:05:10,624 --> 00:05:14,557 And the murder one clients keep lining up. 92 00:05:14,624 --> 00:05:16,691 We're the hottest firm going if you killed somebody. 93 00:05:16,757 --> 00:05:18,724 The problem is, the homicide customers aren't paying. 94 00:05:21,491 --> 00:05:25,157 - Okay. - Bobby, you keep saying okay, 95 00:05:25,224 --> 00:05:28,057 and our plate keeps getting more filled with murder cases. 96 00:05:28,124 --> 00:05:30,391 - Now, we're going backwards. - Rebecca, I would love for somebody... 97 00:05:30,457 --> 00:05:32,491 to walk through that door and plunk down... 98 00:05:32,557 --> 00:05:35,357 a million dollar retainer on my desk, but until they do-- 99 00:05:35,424 --> 00:05:37,257 Fine. Fine. All I'm saying is, if somebody... 100 00:05:37,324 --> 00:05:40,357 walks through that door saying they killed somebody, get the money up front. 101 00:05:40,424 --> 00:05:42,491 Enough's enough. 102 00:05:44,257 --> 00:05:47,724 [ Man ] What was supposed to happen in scene 29, Mr. Goodwin? 103 00:05:47,791 --> 00:05:52,357 Well, as I said, this was a bondage number. 104 00:05:53,457 --> 00:05:55,924 The guy is bound, 105 00:05:55,991 --> 00:05:58,591 uh, and, uh, 106 00:05:58,657 --> 00:06:01,291 worked on by the woman playing the dominatrix. 107 00:06:01,357 --> 00:06:03,424 She was to-- to tie him up... 108 00:06:03,491 --> 00:06:05,557 and then bring him to an orgasm... 109 00:06:05,624 --> 00:06:09,124 by tightening a scarf around his neck... 110 00:06:09,191 --> 00:06:11,091 while-- while she, uh-- 111 00:06:11,157 --> 00:06:14,824 Yes. And, uh, had the defendant performed a scene like this before? 112 00:06:14,891 --> 00:06:17,491 Many times. By "many," you mean-- 113 00:06:18,691 --> 00:06:20,891 At least 30, maybe more. 114 00:06:20,957 --> 00:06:23,557 So the defendant was familiar with the act, 115 00:06:23,624 --> 00:06:26,824 and knew how to accomplish it safely? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. 116 00:06:26,891 --> 00:06:30,157 And they had a safety, uh, signal... 117 00:06:30,224 --> 00:06:32,291 if it got too uncomfortable for Peter. 118 00:06:32,357 --> 00:06:34,991 Safety signal? For her to stop choking him? 119 00:06:35,057 --> 00:06:37,757 Yes. And what was the signal? 120 00:06:37,824 --> 00:06:42,091 Uh, it was a visual. He would purse his lips up into a kiss. 121 00:06:42,157 --> 00:06:44,624 And did, uh, Mr. Katlin... 122 00:06:44,691 --> 00:06:47,324 give this safety signal during the scene in question? 123 00:06:47,391 --> 00:06:50,057 Well, no, he couldn't. I mean, she tied a kerchief over his mouth. 124 00:06:50,124 --> 00:06:54,091 Was the defendant's covering of his mouth part of the script? 125 00:06:54,157 --> 00:06:56,757 Uh, no. No. No, it wasn't. 126 00:06:58,424 --> 00:07:00,424 Mr. Goodwin, shooting this scene, 127 00:07:00,491 --> 00:07:02,591 you cut the first take, didn't you? 128 00:07:02,657 --> 00:07:05,091 I did. You didn't think it was erotic enough? 129 00:07:05,157 --> 00:07:08,191 - I knew he could do it better. - You wanted to heat things up a little, push it? 130 00:07:08,257 --> 00:07:10,624 Well, I didn't want her to kill him. I move to strike that. 131 00:07:10,691 --> 00:07:13,857 - Sustained. - Mr. Goodwin, 132 00:07:13,924 --> 00:07:16,757 these bondage setups-- are they for an American market? 133 00:07:16,824 --> 00:07:18,724 No, they go to Europe and Asia. Oh, really? 134 00:07:18,791 --> 00:07:21,624 And why is that? I don't know. 135 00:07:21,691 --> 00:07:24,224 Are you aware that the courts have successfully prosecuted this type of thing... 136 00:07:24,291 --> 00:07:26,824 because it's a high-risk sexual activity that if imitated could result in death? 137 00:07:26,891 --> 00:07:29,424 Did you know that? I've heard that, 138 00:07:29,491 --> 00:07:31,157 but none of my films have been prosecuted. 139 00:07:31,224 --> 00:07:34,191 - But this was high-risk, am I right? - Yes. 140 00:07:34,257 --> 00:07:37,557 So if done incorrectly, it could accidentally lead to asphyxiation. 141 00:07:37,624 --> 00:07:40,324 - You did know that? - We've done this many times. 142 00:07:40,391 --> 00:07:43,824 All right. This... stunt is called what? 143 00:07:43,891 --> 00:07:46,791 It's called seesaw. And the choking... 144 00:07:46,857 --> 00:07:50,557 is necessary for a proper take, is that correct? Yes. 145 00:07:50,624 --> 00:07:54,691 - So by choking him, Sara was just doing her job. - Well, she didn't stop. 146 00:07:54,757 --> 00:07:57,057 Mr. Goodwin, who yells cut during the filming of a scene? 147 00:07:57,124 --> 00:07:59,924 - The director. Me. - And you didn't yell cut, did you? 148 00:07:59,991 --> 00:08:02,057 We've already established that, Your Honor. Yes, I know that, 149 00:08:02,124 --> 00:08:05,457 but I want to make this very clear because it's an important point to the defense. 150 00:08:05,524 --> 00:08:08,024 You didn't yell cut, did you, sir? 151 00:08:08,091 --> 00:08:10,324 I did not yell cut. 152 00:08:10,391 --> 00:08:12,524 Thank you. 153 00:08:14,224 --> 00:08:16,791 [ Chattering ] 154 00:08:16,857 --> 00:08:20,124 [ Man ] Make sure you file it. [ Continues, Indistinct ] 155 00:08:20,191 --> 00:08:22,191 Excuse me. Are you Ms. Stone? Yes. 156 00:08:22,257 --> 00:08:24,157 I'm Ellenor Frutt, Sara Katlin's attorney. 157 00:08:24,224 --> 00:08:27,757 I don't wanna talk to you. I understand, and I'm very sorry for the loss of your brother. 158 00:08:27,824 --> 00:08:30,424 Yes. Try to cope. I just think that you should consult an attorney... 159 00:08:30,491 --> 00:08:32,891 before tomorrow's testimony. I beg your pardon? 160 00:08:32,957 --> 00:08:35,157 Ms. Stone, I don't mean to sound cold, 161 00:08:35,224 --> 00:08:38,057 but if you're gonna go in there and accuse Sara Katlin of killing your brother, 162 00:08:38,124 --> 00:08:40,624 you could expose yourself to some serious liability-- 163 00:08:40,691 --> 00:08:42,691 qualified immunity aside. 164 00:08:42,757 --> 00:08:45,624 Ah. You're worried about my legal exposure. 165 00:08:45,691 --> 00:08:48,624 How thoughtful. Why don't you just talk to your own attorney. 166 00:08:48,691 --> 00:08:51,157 You don't have to take my word for it. Oh, I won't. 167 00:08:51,224 --> 00:08:53,857 I'd love to stay, but just spending time with you like this, 168 00:08:53,924 --> 00:08:55,791 I feel the need to shower. 169 00:08:58,357 --> 00:09:01,091 Rebecca? 170 00:09:01,157 --> 00:09:03,724 Oh. God. 171 00:09:04,891 --> 00:09:07,391 - This is where you work? - What's wrong with it? 172 00:09:07,457 --> 00:09:09,891 Oh. Don't you guys make any money? 173 00:09:09,957 --> 00:09:12,657 We do, but since we don't pay our taxes, 174 00:09:12,724 --> 00:09:16,124 we don't wanna make the I.R.S. suspicious with fancy office space. 175 00:09:16,191 --> 00:09:19,157 Oh. You know how us criminal lawyer types are. 176 00:09:19,224 --> 00:09:22,157 Oh, yeah, I do-- which is why I'm here. 177 00:09:22,224 --> 00:09:26,657 The criminal lawyer type defending Luis Moreno has a suppression hearing scheduled. 178 00:09:26,724 --> 00:09:30,891 He's trying to kick your lineup I.D., and he could very well win. 179 00:09:30,957 --> 00:09:33,124 What? Well, in your statement at the scene... 180 00:09:33,191 --> 00:09:35,091 you said he was wearing a coat with some sort of hood. 181 00:09:35,157 --> 00:09:37,024 Yeah. He-He was. Yeah. 182 00:09:37,091 --> 00:09:39,724 Well, in the lineup he was wearing a hooded jacket, 183 00:09:39,791 --> 00:09:42,624 which could possibly make your I.D. tainted. 184 00:09:42,691 --> 00:09:44,757 What genius put a hood on him? 185 00:09:44,824 --> 00:09:47,557 The hood wasn't even up in the I.D., but they could possibly say-- 186 00:09:47,624 --> 00:09:50,357 Wait. What happens if they suppress my I.D.? 187 00:09:50,424 --> 00:09:52,391 He walks. You're the whole case. 188 00:09:52,457 --> 00:09:54,957 Now, look. I'd like you at the hearing. 189 00:09:55,024 --> 00:09:58,124 You're not gonna be testifying or anything, but I want the judge seeing your face. 190 00:09:58,191 --> 00:10:01,791 Anything to keep this human. I don't want this whole thing turning on the Constitution. 191 00:10:02,924 --> 00:10:04,791 Fine. 192 00:10:06,824 --> 00:10:08,991 [ Door Shuts ] 193 00:10:09,057 --> 00:10:11,057 [ Sara On TV ] I'm feeling a little chill in here. 194 00:10:11,124 --> 00:10:14,491 [ Man ] Why don't you move closer? Where did you get this? 195 00:10:14,557 --> 00:10:17,824 Jimmy gave it to me. It's her early years. Soft porn. 196 00:10:17,891 --> 00:10:21,624 You know, I know I'm supposed to know this because I'm a lawyer, 197 00:10:21,691 --> 00:10:24,157 but why isn't this prostitution? 198 00:10:24,224 --> 00:10:26,191 It's sexual conduct for money. 199 00:10:26,257 --> 00:10:28,091 Well, legally it's not prostitution... 200 00:10:28,157 --> 00:10:31,091 because neither party is deriving pleasure from it. 201 00:10:31,157 --> 00:10:33,591 It's-- It's a job on both sides. 202 00:10:33,657 --> 00:10:37,657 - That's the distinction? - I didn't write the law. 203 00:10:37,724 --> 00:10:40,691 They both look like they're deriving pleasure to me. 204 00:10:40,757 --> 00:10:42,757 Well, that-- that's acting. 205 00:10:42,824 --> 00:10:46,657 They're just good actors. Oh, right. I forgot. 206 00:10:48,191 --> 00:10:50,157 [ Man ] Yeah. Mmm. 207 00:10:50,224 --> 00:10:53,324 Well, got a full day tomorrow. 208 00:10:53,391 --> 00:10:55,191 Otherwise I'd love to see how it ends. 209 00:10:55,257 --> 00:10:58,491 Yeah, my arson case resumes tomorrow. 210 00:10:58,557 --> 00:11:00,491 I'm sure they'll be calling the defendant. 211 00:11:00,557 --> 00:11:04,891 Well, I'm sure you'll cross him if they do. 212 00:11:04,957 --> 00:11:07,924 Yeah. What's your day like? 213 00:11:07,991 --> 00:11:10,457 Same old. 214 00:11:32,724 --> 00:11:34,791 [ Moans ] 215 00:11:42,157 --> 00:11:45,824 - Any ideas? - I was hoping you would tell me. 216 00:11:45,891 --> 00:11:49,291 - We're lousy on motive. - She hated him. Stood to inherit his money. 217 00:11:49,357 --> 00:11:51,224 She killed him. On 16 millimeter. 218 00:11:51,291 --> 00:11:54,091 But it was high-risk stuff. Can we chip it to involuntary manslaughter? 219 00:11:54,157 --> 00:11:57,757 [ Sighs ] No. Means says voluntary is as good as we're gonna get. 220 00:11:57,824 --> 00:12:00,157 - That offer expires tomorrow. - And if we go battered spouse syndrome? 221 00:12:00,224 --> 00:12:02,824 It's too late. And even if it isn't, we have to declare. 222 00:12:02,891 --> 00:12:05,824 Battered spouse means she had intent, which is different than accident. 223 00:12:07,791 --> 00:12:10,157 So we could go manslaughter. Voluntary. 224 00:12:10,224 --> 00:12:12,391 Battered spouse-- or stay with accident. 225 00:12:12,457 --> 00:12:15,191 I say we chuck battered spouse. How's that gonna look when she's into bondage? 226 00:12:15,257 --> 00:12:18,557 We either accept manslaughter or we go for it. What do you think? 227 00:12:19,591 --> 00:12:22,891 - [ Sighs ] Flip? - Right. 228 00:12:26,224 --> 00:12:28,991 Heads, manslaughter. Tails, we go for it. 229 00:12:31,357 --> 00:12:33,424 Tails. 230 00:12:33,491 --> 00:12:35,657 It's an accident. We go for it. 231 00:12:35,724 --> 00:12:38,024 This is why we get paid-- to make these decisions. 232 00:12:44,940 --> 00:12:47,640 [ Helen ] You're sucking my elbow again. 233 00:12:49,274 --> 00:12:52,574 You're always sucking my elbow. 234 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,374 It's supposed to be one of the erogenous zones. 235 00:12:56,607 --> 00:12:58,674 Isn't that what they say? 236 00:12:58,740 --> 00:13:01,074 Who? 237 00:13:01,140 --> 00:13:04,540 Women who read Cosmo. Mmm. 238 00:13:04,607 --> 00:13:06,540 Well, I've never read it. 239 00:13:06,607 --> 00:13:08,507 Huh. 240 00:13:11,540 --> 00:13:16,974 Mmm. In fact, the only time I've ever heard it, it was from Lindsay. 241 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,607 She likes to get her elbow sucked. 242 00:13:21,140 --> 00:13:24,340 I always just thought it was something with her. 243 00:13:33,074 --> 00:13:35,340 And the relationship between your brother and the defendant had gotten worse? 244 00:13:35,407 --> 00:13:37,474 [ Ellenor ] Objection. [ Judge ] Overruled. 245 00:13:37,540 --> 00:13:40,740 - What, exactly, did your brother tell you-- - Objection. 246 00:13:40,807 --> 00:13:44,640 Overruled. I'm allowing this testimony, Ms. Frutt. 247 00:13:44,707 --> 00:13:48,007 The court will take ample note of your vigorous objection. 248 00:13:48,074 --> 00:13:51,740 Let me rephrase it. Please describe your brother's relationship... 249 00:13:51,807 --> 00:13:54,907 with the defendant. I suppose it was like any marriage. 250 00:13:54,974 --> 00:13:57,207 They loved each other in the beginning. 251 00:13:57,274 --> 00:13:59,240 Wanted to kill each other in the end. 252 00:13:59,307 --> 00:14:01,940 Difference being, she went through with it. 253 00:14:02,007 --> 00:14:03,974 [ Together ] Objection! Sustained. 254 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,907 The jury will certainly disregard that. 255 00:14:06,974 --> 00:14:08,974 What indications did you have... 256 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,974 that their relationship had deteriorated? 257 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:16,240 Well, there was a lot of open hostility the last year or two. 258 00:14:16,307 --> 00:14:20,340 By open hostility you mean-- Fighting. Yelling. 259 00:14:20,407 --> 00:14:22,440 They were both verbally abusive to each other. 260 00:14:22,507 --> 00:14:24,740 - Sometimes they were physically at each other. - You saw this? 261 00:14:24,807 --> 00:14:28,574 Yes. What complicated things-- 262 00:14:30,307 --> 00:14:32,474 Their careers were sort of joined. 263 00:14:32,540 --> 00:14:35,040 Even if they divorced, they couldn't really leave one another. 264 00:14:35,107 --> 00:14:37,440 Mrs. Stone, did you ever hear the defendant... 265 00:14:37,507 --> 00:14:39,974 make any direct threats against your brother? 266 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,207 - Yes. - [ Ellenor ] Objection. 267 00:14:42,274 --> 00:14:44,440 - [ Judge ] Overruled. - And, uh, could you... 268 00:14:44,507 --> 00:14:47,107 describe these threats-- when they took place? 269 00:14:47,174 --> 00:14:50,474 The last one came about three days before his death. 270 00:14:50,540 --> 00:14:54,607 And what was that threat? She said she would kill him. 271 00:14:54,674 --> 00:14:57,407 And where did that threat take place? At their house. 272 00:14:57,474 --> 00:15:00,074 It was a family dinner sort of thing. 273 00:15:00,140 --> 00:15:03,474 They got into one of their customary arguments. 274 00:15:03,540 --> 00:15:05,907 - Objection. - Overruled. 275 00:15:05,974 --> 00:15:09,407 Suddenly they're screaming at each other, and then she said it-- 276 00:15:09,474 --> 00:15:11,274 she said she'd kill him. 277 00:15:11,340 --> 00:15:14,374 Did she say anything else? Yes. 278 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,240 She said she could do it during one of their sex scenes... 279 00:15:17,307 --> 00:15:19,540 and make it look like an accident. 280 00:15:19,607 --> 00:15:22,240 [ Spectators Murmuring ] 281 00:15:24,074 --> 00:15:25,974 It's unfair surprise. 282 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,240 It's willful, deliberate, and this case should be dismissed right now. 283 00:15:28,307 --> 00:15:30,207 Lindsay, you knew this witness was coming, There's nothing in her-- 284 00:15:30,274 --> 00:15:32,340 You knew that she'd be testifying. You've got to be kidding. 285 00:15:32,407 --> 00:15:34,874 Hold on here. Let me get a question in. 286 00:15:34,940 --> 00:15:36,707 What did you give them on this witness? 287 00:15:36,774 --> 00:15:39,340 That she would testify as to the hostile relationship. 288 00:15:39,407 --> 00:15:41,607 She just testified as to direct threats. 289 00:15:41,674 --> 00:15:43,640 [ Judge ] Counsel. He withheld that. 290 00:15:43,707 --> 00:15:46,507 Do I have to give them a transcript? Oh, come on! 291 00:15:46,574 --> 00:15:48,940 [ All Shouting ] Hey! 292 00:15:50,340 --> 00:15:52,907 I have to say, Mr. Means, I don't like it. 293 00:15:52,974 --> 00:15:55,974 - Your Honor, I hope you don't-- - Ah, ah! Don't make it worse by insulting me. 294 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,107 You withheld that little nugget. 295 00:16:02,340 --> 00:16:05,307 [ Sighs ] All right, I'll give you extra time to prepare your cross, 296 00:16:05,374 --> 00:16:07,840 but I'm not dismissing. That is so prejudicial. 297 00:16:07,907 --> 00:16:10,974 - I am not dismissing. - At minimum, you should strike the testimony. 298 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,174 They heard the testimony. If I strike it, you can't really cross her on it. 299 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,474 That would be worse. Her testimony stands. 300 00:16:17,540 --> 00:16:20,707 One more stunt like that, and I set the defendant free. 301 00:16:20,774 --> 00:16:23,207 Yes, Your Honor. 302 00:16:26,674 --> 00:16:30,007 You've got to be kidding me. Yeah, that's me. I just love to kid. 303 00:16:30,074 --> 00:16:31,940 You sit on a threat like that? Material evidence? 304 00:16:32,007 --> 00:16:35,074 You knew the nature of the witness's testimony. Come on, Ed. That's not you. 305 00:16:35,140 --> 00:16:36,974 We've tried cases against each other before. 306 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,140 You've never pulled anything close to unfair surprise. What's going on? 307 00:16:41,907 --> 00:16:44,507 Ell, you try your case, I'll try mine. 308 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,274 She couldn't even describe the race of the shooter. 309 00:16:49,340 --> 00:16:51,940 She didn't describe any facial features, 310 00:16:52,007 --> 00:16:54,207 but she remembered a big hood. 311 00:16:54,274 --> 00:16:56,374 Then they put my client in a lineup wearing a hood. 312 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,107 We did not wardrobe the guy. He wore his own coat. There was no poss-- 313 00:16:59,174 --> 00:17:01,240 That makes no legal difference, and you know it. 314 00:17:01,307 --> 00:17:03,507 It makes a factual difference to the extent that you're saying... 315 00:17:03,574 --> 00:17:06,374 we orchestrated the lineup, which is impossible-- This lineup is not reliable. 316 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,740 - since we had no idea what the guy was-- - Hold on. Hold on. 317 00:17:09,807 --> 00:17:12,874 Uh, did she describe the hood in her earlier statement? 318 00:17:12,940 --> 00:17:15,607 No. And he wasn't the only one wearing a hood, so I don't see how-- 319 00:17:15,674 --> 00:17:18,707 There was one other, who the witness may not have even seen. 320 00:17:18,774 --> 00:17:20,640 You see, my client was number two. 321 00:17:20,707 --> 00:17:23,040 She made the I.D. when he stepped forward, 322 00:17:23,107 --> 00:17:25,207 before even looking at the other two. 323 00:17:25,274 --> 00:17:27,874 Which goes to the reliability of it. Oh, come on, Jean. 324 00:17:27,940 --> 00:17:31,240 All right, look. The I.D. stands. I'm not suppressing it. 325 00:17:31,307 --> 00:17:33,607 And do me a favor, Ms. Ward. 326 00:17:33,674 --> 00:17:36,507 Send a message to the jackass who let him walk the lineup with a hood. 327 00:17:36,574 --> 00:17:38,940 Yes, Your Honor. 328 00:17:39,007 --> 00:17:41,940 And I think it would be a good idea if the two of you got together. 329 00:17:42,007 --> 00:17:45,740 No offense, Ms. Washington, but the case looks like a big dog with a little bark. 330 00:17:45,807 --> 00:17:48,574 We're done. [ Gavel Raps ] 331 00:17:52,340 --> 00:17:54,174 [ Chattering ] 332 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,640 How do you not tell us? I didn't remember. 333 00:17:56,707 --> 00:17:58,507 You threatened to kill somebody, and you don't remember? 334 00:17:58,574 --> 00:18:01,707 We screamed anything and everything at each other that night. 335 00:18:01,774 --> 00:18:04,107 - You threatened to do it in a scene? - I don't know. 336 00:18:04,174 --> 00:18:06,507 Maybe I did, but that doesn't mean I'd actually do it. 337 00:18:06,574 --> 00:18:09,240 Well, given that you did do it, you can see how that might look. 338 00:18:09,307 --> 00:18:13,407 Ellenor, we screamed at each other a lot. We even hit each other. 339 00:18:13,474 --> 00:18:17,440 If I said what his sister said I said-- could be. 340 00:18:17,507 --> 00:18:20,207 But it was never while I was in a calm state. 341 00:18:20,274 --> 00:18:23,240 It was never like it was something I was actually considering. 342 00:18:23,307 --> 00:18:27,240 I didn't kill him on purpose. 343 00:18:29,974 --> 00:18:32,374 [ Chattering ] [ Elevator Bell Dings ] 344 00:18:33,540 --> 00:18:35,907 What now? I don't know. 345 00:18:35,974 --> 00:18:38,807 I'll cross the sister and maybe-- You gotta nail her, Ellenor. 346 00:18:38,874 --> 00:18:42,207 I know. Tic Tac? 347 00:18:44,607 --> 00:18:46,574 Was this the only time you ever heard... 348 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,407 - my client threaten your brother? - No. 349 00:18:48,474 --> 00:18:50,274 There were other threats before? Yes. 350 00:18:50,340 --> 00:18:53,040 - Threats to kill him? - Yes, as a matter of fact. 351 00:18:53,107 --> 00:18:55,174 How many times did you hear deadly threats like these? 352 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:56,940 I'm not sure. More than five? 353 00:18:57,007 --> 00:18:59,707 Probably not, but I heard some scream fests where they threatened each other... 354 00:18:59,774 --> 00:19:01,040 where she threatened to kill him. 355 00:19:01,107 --> 00:19:03,307 And did you ever report these threats to the police? 356 00:19:03,374 --> 00:19:05,474 - In hindsight-- - I'm not asking for hindsight, Ms. Stone. 357 00:19:05,540 --> 00:19:08,307 Did you ever report these threats to the police? 358 00:19:08,374 --> 00:19:11,407 - Again, the answer is yes or no. - No, I didn't. 359 00:19:11,474 --> 00:19:13,740 And you loved your brother, am I right? 360 00:19:13,807 --> 00:19:16,974 The fact that I didn't report the threats doesn't mean I didn't take them seriously. 361 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,107 - Now, that's a lie, isn't it? - Objection. 362 00:19:19,174 --> 00:19:22,774 - Sustained. - You regarded these threats seriously? 363 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:27,274 - Yes, I did. - She vows to kill your brother, somebody who you love, 364 00:19:27,340 --> 00:19:29,107 and you don't bother to notify the police? 365 00:19:29,174 --> 00:19:31,040 Now, which part of that is a lie-- 366 00:19:31,107 --> 00:19:32,807 - Objection. - the part about you took the threat seriously, 367 00:19:32,874 --> 00:19:34,774 - or the part about you loving your brother? - Objection. 368 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,874 Ms. Frutt. 369 00:19:38,607 --> 00:19:40,707 You never liked Sara Katlin, did you, Ms. Stone? 370 00:19:40,774 --> 00:19:42,974 I certainly didn't approve of her. 371 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,807 Is it your testimony to this jury that youdon't despise my client? 372 00:19:46,874 --> 00:19:49,307 We aren't friendly. You blamed my client... 373 00:19:49,374 --> 00:19:51,740 for a lot of your brother's emotional problems, didn't you? 374 00:19:51,807 --> 00:19:54,340 My brother went through a lot of stuff. I suppose you could say-- 375 00:19:54,407 --> 00:19:56,307 I am not asking for you to give us an analysis. 376 00:19:56,374 --> 00:19:58,907 Did you blame my client in front of others... 377 00:19:58,974 --> 00:20:00,974 for a lot of your brother's emotional problems? 378 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:02,907 - Yes or no. - Yes. 379 00:20:02,974 --> 00:20:06,074 And have you spoken to your brother's probate attorney since his death? 380 00:20:06,140 --> 00:20:09,374 -Objection. -Offered to impeach. This woman has motive to accuse my client. 381 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,207 - Objection. Move to strike, Your Honor. - Overruled. 382 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,407 In your brother's will, if he should die suddenly, 383 00:20:16,474 --> 00:20:19,074 who would inherit his money? His wife. Her. 384 00:20:19,140 --> 00:20:21,207 And, if you know, 385 00:20:21,274 --> 00:20:24,607 should his wife be held responsible for his death, 386 00:20:24,674 --> 00:20:28,140 - who would inherit it then? - It would go to his next of kin. 387 00:20:28,207 --> 00:20:30,140 Does he have any parents? No. 388 00:20:30,207 --> 00:20:31,940 Any brothers or sisters? One. 389 00:20:32,007 --> 00:20:33,707 You? Yes. 390 00:20:33,774 --> 00:20:36,107 So if this woman is convicted of killing your brother, 391 00:20:36,174 --> 00:20:38,274 all the money would go to you? 392 00:20:38,340 --> 00:20:40,674 I believe so. You believe so? 393 00:20:40,740 --> 00:20:43,974 -And how much money are we talking about? -A few hundred thousand dollars. 394 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,440 [ Spectators Murmuring ] Thank you. 395 00:20:46,507 --> 00:20:49,240 That'll be all. 396 00:20:49,307 --> 00:20:53,607 Oh! Um, I actually have one more question. 397 00:20:55,807 --> 00:20:58,607 Has anybody else ever threatened your brother's life before? 398 00:20:58,674 --> 00:21:02,740 Yes, once. A man he partnered with in some real estate deals. 399 00:21:02,807 --> 00:21:06,307 - He threatened your brother's life? - Yes, over some dispute. 400 00:21:06,374 --> 00:21:08,840 - And you heard the threat? - Yes. 401 00:21:08,907 --> 00:21:11,740 And what did you do then? 402 00:21:11,807 --> 00:21:14,607 I reported it to the police. 403 00:21:14,674 --> 00:21:17,340 Ah. Thank you. 404 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,940 [ Wind Whistling ] ♪ [ Jukebox: Blues ] 405 00:21:26,007 --> 00:21:28,040 So you've got a chance? 406 00:21:28,107 --> 00:21:30,507 I don't know. Ellenor was good. 407 00:21:30,574 --> 00:21:32,607 You think we should have jumped at manslaughter, don't you? 408 00:21:32,674 --> 00:21:36,374 Mmm, it's hard to say, really. Have you ever slept with Bobby? 409 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,840 - What? - Well, the guy keeps sucking my elbow, 410 00:21:39,907 --> 00:21:42,374 like it's supposed to make me hot. 411 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,707 You're the only woman I know who ever liked her elbow sucked, so I-- 412 00:21:45,774 --> 00:21:49,774 [ Laughing ] What? 413 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,740 I might have told him that I liked it, 414 00:21:51,807 --> 00:21:54,574 but I wasn't speaking for womankind. 415 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,340 He-- Suckles it, like it should give milk. 416 00:22:01,007 --> 00:22:02,907 Lindsay, be straight with me. 417 00:22:02,974 --> 00:22:04,974 Did you and he ever-- 418 00:22:09,940 --> 00:22:12,007 Oh, my God. 419 00:22:12,074 --> 00:22:14,840 It happened before you, Helen-- way before. 420 00:22:14,907 --> 00:22:19,407 I-It was just a brief... thing. 421 00:22:19,474 --> 00:22:21,707 Why didn't you tell me? 422 00:22:21,774 --> 00:22:24,440 Because I knew you were on the chase-- which I supported. 423 00:22:24,507 --> 00:22:26,307 And I know you and your sense of loyalty. 424 00:22:26,374 --> 00:22:30,374 If you even thought I shared a glass of punch with him, you never would have gone near. 425 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,074 How long ago? 426 00:22:36,140 --> 00:22:40,040 Long, long. July. 427 00:22:41,507 --> 00:22:43,774 It just happened, Helen. 428 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,840 There was no need for you to ever know, 429 00:22:45,907 --> 00:22:49,507 but you asked me so straight out, 430 00:22:49,574 --> 00:22:51,807 I don't wanna lie. 431 00:22:51,874 --> 00:22:53,940 Should I have? 432 00:22:55,674 --> 00:22:58,340 No. 433 00:23:02,307 --> 00:23:04,207 [ Sighs ] 434 00:23:08,136 --> 00:23:11,736 You told her? Bobby, she asked me flat out. I had to. 435 00:23:11,803 --> 00:23:14,136 Past tense. It's okay. What was her reaction? 436 00:23:14,203 --> 00:23:17,536 She's okay with it. You know, it happened before her. 437 00:23:17,603 --> 00:23:20,570 She's a big girl. But stop sucking her elbows. 438 00:23:20,636 --> 00:23:22,570 Hey, Lindsay, are you ready? Yeah. Let's go. 439 00:23:22,636 --> 00:23:24,670 [ Ellenor ] Right. 440 00:23:30,736 --> 00:23:32,903 You... suck her elbows? 441 00:23:36,236 --> 00:23:38,570 Yes, I knew the risk. 442 00:23:38,636 --> 00:23:40,570 That was the main point for the-- 443 00:23:40,636 --> 00:23:42,903 The choking. Yes. 444 00:23:42,970 --> 00:23:45,270 Sara, you don't deny threatening your husband? 445 00:23:45,336 --> 00:23:48,270 No. We fought a lot. 446 00:23:48,336 --> 00:23:50,670 We sometimes got violent. 447 00:23:50,736 --> 00:23:53,003 Maybe I did threaten him. 448 00:23:53,070 --> 00:23:56,503 I know that there were many times that I wished he was dead. 449 00:23:56,570 --> 00:23:59,203 Why? Why? 450 00:23:59,270 --> 00:24:03,036 It was a volatile relationship. I felt controlled by him, 451 00:24:03,103 --> 00:24:05,370 abused by him-- 452 00:24:05,436 --> 00:24:09,903 Mostly verbally, sometimes physically. 453 00:24:09,970 --> 00:24:12,703 I wanted to get out of the pornography industry. 454 00:24:12,770 --> 00:24:15,536 I blamed him for not letting me. 455 00:24:15,603 --> 00:24:17,803 Did you love your husband? 456 00:24:20,270 --> 00:24:23,036 I suppose I did. 457 00:24:23,103 --> 00:24:26,536 But I certainly hated him much more than I loved him. 458 00:24:27,836 --> 00:24:29,936 So you-- You hated him? 459 00:24:30,003 --> 00:24:31,836 Very much. 460 00:24:32,870 --> 00:24:36,003 Sara, did you kill your husband? 461 00:24:36,070 --> 00:24:39,570 No. It was an accident. 462 00:24:39,636 --> 00:24:41,803 Are you glad that he's dead? 463 00:24:43,403 --> 00:24:45,570 Are you glad that he's dead? 464 00:24:45,636 --> 00:24:48,536 Well, I'm certainly not glad... 465 00:24:48,603 --> 00:24:51,536 for all the problems that it's caused me, but... 466 00:24:52,436 --> 00:24:54,603 otherwise, uh, 467 00:24:54,670 --> 00:24:58,003 yeah, I guess maybe a little. 468 00:24:59,603 --> 00:25:03,670 [ Spectators Murmuring ] 469 00:25:05,703 --> 00:25:08,170 Whatever you do, you can't blame Lindsay. 470 00:25:08,236 --> 00:25:10,070 She wanted to tell you earlier. 471 00:25:10,136 --> 00:25:12,003 It was while all that stuff happened with Isikoff and me... 472 00:25:12,070 --> 00:25:14,036 betraying you over the warrant business-- 473 00:25:14,103 --> 00:25:17,936 and I convinced her to hold off, timing-wise. 474 00:25:18,970 --> 00:25:21,903 Helen, it-it's nothing that affects us. 475 00:25:21,970 --> 00:25:24,036 It's just one of those pieces of history that, 476 00:25:24,103 --> 00:25:27,536 under the circumstances, are better left untold. 477 00:25:29,370 --> 00:25:31,236 And it's over? Yes. 478 00:25:31,303 --> 00:25:33,903 It's over. 479 00:25:34,936 --> 00:25:37,536 There's nothing going on between you now? 480 00:25:38,803 --> 00:25:40,670 No. 481 00:25:45,536 --> 00:25:49,503 Well, then you certainly knew it was possible for him to die in this stunt. 482 00:25:49,570 --> 00:25:52,003 [ Sara ] Well, I knew it was dangerous, yes. 483 00:25:52,070 --> 00:25:55,336 So dangerous you had a safety signal for him to tell you to stop? 484 00:25:55,403 --> 00:25:58,036 Yes. But he couldn't give you that signal, could he? 485 00:25:58,103 --> 00:26:01,370 Because his mouth was covered, wasn't it, Ms. Katlin? 486 00:26:01,436 --> 00:26:03,336 Yes. 487 00:26:03,403 --> 00:26:06,836 Now, where in the script did it call for you to put a kerchief over his mouth? 488 00:26:06,903 --> 00:26:08,936 It didn't. 489 00:26:09,003 --> 00:26:14,203 You ever tie a kerchief around your husband's mouth before? 490 00:26:14,270 --> 00:26:16,370 No. 491 00:26:16,436 --> 00:26:19,970 So this would be a... big coincidence? 492 00:26:20,036 --> 00:26:23,170 Time he dies just happens to be the one time you covered his mouth? 493 00:26:23,236 --> 00:26:26,336 - Objection. - Sustained. 494 00:26:26,403 --> 00:26:28,870 Now, Ms. Katlin, you were very honest... 495 00:26:28,936 --> 00:26:31,536 in admitting that you hated your husband. 496 00:26:31,603 --> 00:26:35,836 You were also honest in admitting that you wished him dead on occasion. 497 00:26:35,903 --> 00:26:38,703 In the spirit of that unflinching honesty, 498 00:26:38,770 --> 00:26:41,236 wasn't it just a little reckless for you to cover his mouth with that kerchief? 499 00:26:41,303 --> 00:26:44,503 - [ Ellenor ] Objection. - Overruled. 500 00:26:44,570 --> 00:26:47,670 Ms. Katlin? 501 00:26:47,736 --> 00:26:49,703 Potentially deadly stunt. 502 00:26:49,770 --> 00:26:52,170 The only safety net is his mouth. 503 00:26:52,236 --> 00:26:56,270 The only way he can save himself, you took away. 504 00:26:56,336 --> 00:26:58,470 Wasn't that just a little reckless? 505 00:26:59,436 --> 00:27:01,703 I suppose so. 506 00:27:01,770 --> 00:27:04,770 And, Ms. Katlin, again, honestly, 507 00:27:04,836 --> 00:27:07,803 when you did something this reckless in a stunt... 508 00:27:07,870 --> 00:27:10,903 that was so high-risk to begin with, 509 00:27:10,970 --> 00:27:14,036 didn't you increase the chances that something could go wrong? 510 00:27:14,103 --> 00:27:17,536 Yes, but I didn't mean for it to go wrong. 511 00:27:17,603 --> 00:27:21,270 Yes, but you did increase the chances for something to go wrong, didn't you? 512 00:27:21,336 --> 00:27:24,870 - Yes. - You increased the chances he would die, didn't you? 513 00:27:24,936 --> 00:27:28,770 I guess I did. But I didn't mean for him to die. 514 00:27:28,836 --> 00:27:32,770 A deadly stunt. You hated him. You wished him dead. 515 00:27:32,836 --> 00:27:35,003 You increased the chances of his death. 516 00:27:35,070 --> 00:27:38,636 He dies. You admit you're glad he's dead. 517 00:27:38,703 --> 00:27:42,170 You knowingly put him at extreme, extreme risk, 518 00:27:42,236 --> 00:27:44,270 didn't you? I don't know. 519 00:27:44,336 --> 00:27:46,336 You don't know? 520 00:27:46,403 --> 00:27:51,536 So then it might be possible that on some unconscious level you did mean for him to die? 521 00:27:51,603 --> 00:27:53,970 Isn't that possible? 522 00:27:54,036 --> 00:27:56,870 I don't know. I-I-- I don't know. 523 00:27:56,936 --> 00:28:00,303 I-- I think you do, Ms. Katlin. 524 00:28:00,370 --> 00:28:02,470 I think you do. 525 00:28:12,036 --> 00:28:15,736 You told me to tell the truth. You told us it was an accident. 526 00:28:15,803 --> 00:28:17,903 It was. 527 00:28:17,970 --> 00:28:20,270 But those questions he asked-- I just told the truth. 528 00:28:20,336 --> 00:28:22,370 You said tell the truth, and I did. 529 00:28:22,436 --> 00:28:24,503 What happened? 530 00:28:24,570 --> 00:28:26,636 What happened is, they've got you on murder two. 531 00:28:28,870 --> 00:28:31,770 Why? Because they don't need specific intent for murder two. 532 00:28:31,836 --> 00:28:34,703 All they need is extreme recklessness, 533 00:28:34,770 --> 00:28:37,203 and you just gave it to them. 534 00:28:37,270 --> 00:28:40,436 [ Sara ] I don't understand. If you were reckless, 535 00:28:40,503 --> 00:28:43,470 with the knowledge of the potential consequences, then that's enough. 536 00:28:43,536 --> 00:28:47,470 It's not murder one, but it's murder two. 537 00:28:48,936 --> 00:28:51,803 And, uh, what's the penalty for that? 538 00:28:51,870 --> 00:28:53,936 Life. 539 00:28:56,236 --> 00:28:57,903 - [ Rebecca ] Manslaughter? - It's a conviction. 540 00:28:57,970 --> 00:29:00,170 He shot and killed a guy in cold blood. 541 00:29:00,236 --> 00:29:02,503 Manslaughter, he gets out in five years or maybe less. 542 00:29:02,570 --> 00:29:05,103 Rebecca, I have no intention of making a deal, 543 00:29:05,170 --> 00:29:07,470 but before I reject it, I have to be sure you'll hold up. 544 00:29:07,536 --> 00:29:12,136 I'll hold up. You're the entire case. If you wobble even slightly-- 545 00:29:12,203 --> 00:29:14,170 Don't worry about me. 546 00:29:14,236 --> 00:29:16,203 Now, he's the one. I saw it. 547 00:29:16,270 --> 00:29:18,170 Please, don't worry about me. 548 00:29:18,236 --> 00:29:20,670 Okay. 549 00:29:20,736 --> 00:29:22,870 [ Elevator Bell Dings ] 550 00:29:22,936 --> 00:29:25,236 We didn't prepare her, Ellenor. 551 00:29:25,303 --> 00:29:27,503 She's looking at a life sentence because we didn't do our jobs. 552 00:29:27,570 --> 00:29:30,336 No. I didn't do my job. Isn't that what you mean? I'm not laying it on you. 553 00:29:30,403 --> 00:29:33,003 Yeah, but it is on me. I'm the one who prepped her. It was my responsibility-- 554 00:29:33,070 --> 00:29:35,036 Then put her back up there. Try to rehabilitate. 555 00:29:35,103 --> 00:29:37,503 What good is that gonna do? She said it under oath. 556 00:29:37,570 --> 00:29:40,570 Her version of recklessness isn't the same as legal recklessness. 557 00:29:40,636 --> 00:29:42,736 She has no foundation to give legal conclusions. 558 00:29:42,803 --> 00:29:44,770 She hasn't admitted anything legally. 559 00:29:44,836 --> 00:29:46,803 You think the jury's gonna make that distinction? 560 00:29:46,870 --> 00:29:49,703 You have to make that distinction in your closing, otherwise-- 561 00:29:49,770 --> 00:29:51,836 We phoned it in, Ellenor. 562 00:29:51,903 --> 00:29:53,936 We did what everybody else did. She's just a porno hooker. 563 00:29:54,003 --> 00:29:57,536 What's really at stake? Court-appointed-- We were sloppy. 564 00:29:57,603 --> 00:30:00,236 Because of that, she's looking at a life sentence. 565 00:30:02,636 --> 00:30:04,936 [ Chattering ] 566 00:30:06,536 --> 00:30:08,936 Voluntary. Two years. Credit for time served. 567 00:30:09,003 --> 00:30:12,070 Too late. Murder two. We got it, we'll keep it. You may not have it. 568 00:30:12,136 --> 00:30:14,536 We still have grounds on appeal-- that unfair surprise. 569 00:30:14,603 --> 00:30:18,670 My office doesn't care about the appeal right now, Ell. They want the verdict. 570 00:30:18,736 --> 00:30:21,836 All right, Ed. Come on, tell me. What's up? 571 00:30:21,903 --> 00:30:24,536 Do I need to? 572 00:30:26,203 --> 00:30:28,203 How many murder trials you guys win lately? 573 00:30:28,270 --> 00:30:31,203 The upcoming profile in Boston magazine-- 574 00:30:31,270 --> 00:30:34,303 You don't think there's an awareness about that in my office? 575 00:30:34,370 --> 00:30:38,736 And with these cops getting killed by your heroin clients, after Bobby tipped 'em off-- 576 00:30:40,703 --> 00:30:43,936 Off the record? Yeah. You and me. 577 00:30:44,003 --> 00:30:47,936 The D.A.'s office has a slight agenda against your firm. 578 00:30:48,003 --> 00:30:51,170 Every client you represent has the added disadvantage... 579 00:30:51,236 --> 00:30:54,070 that from our side, we'll be trying a little harder. 580 00:30:56,036 --> 00:30:58,103 Does Helen Gamble know about this? 581 00:30:58,170 --> 00:31:01,370 It's not an official policy, but any D.A. who pulls one of your cases, 582 00:31:01,436 --> 00:31:05,503 he or she gets a little visit-- a personal visit-- from Scott Hamburg. 583 00:31:05,570 --> 00:31:08,436 [ Groans ] No favors, no deals. 584 00:31:08,503 --> 00:31:10,403 This sucks! Yes, it does. 585 00:31:10,470 --> 00:31:12,570 But I gotta tell ya, Ell-- from where I sit, 586 00:31:12,636 --> 00:31:14,536 your girl knew what she was doin'. 587 00:31:14,603 --> 00:31:18,136 She took care of a situation. I have no problem puttin' her away. 588 00:31:18,203 --> 00:31:20,936 Forever? Forever. 589 00:31:33,369 --> 00:31:35,269 She'll get over it. 590 00:31:35,336 --> 00:31:37,336 Who? Nothing. 591 00:31:37,403 --> 00:31:39,269 Hey, are you ready? Yeah. 592 00:31:39,336 --> 00:31:41,436 Uh, one second. 593 00:31:46,603 --> 00:31:49,436 Do you want her to get over it, Lindsay? Excuse me? 594 00:31:49,503 --> 00:31:51,369 You say you're for Helen and me, 595 00:31:51,436 --> 00:31:54,436 - but ever since we got together I've been pickin' up-- - Pickin' up what? 596 00:31:55,836 --> 00:31:57,636 Why did you tell her? 597 00:31:58,703 --> 00:32:01,636 [ Laughs ] What are you accusing me of? 598 00:32:01,703 --> 00:32:05,069 I'm not accusing you of anything. I'm just wondering if-- 599 00:32:05,136 --> 00:32:09,136 Well, you're wondering wrong. She's one of my best friends. 600 00:32:09,203 --> 00:32:12,803 I just chose not to lie to her. There was no other motive than that. 601 00:32:15,769 --> 00:32:18,436 Fine. 602 00:32:18,503 --> 00:32:20,936 Fine. 603 00:32:21,003 --> 00:32:23,169 [ Sighs ] I have to get to court. 604 00:32:32,536 --> 00:32:35,136 So the manslaughter deal, that's off? 605 00:32:35,203 --> 00:32:37,703 Well, you could say that. 606 00:32:37,769 --> 00:32:41,069 Sara, you basically gave 'em murder two on the stand. 607 00:32:41,136 --> 00:32:44,369 I'm gonna give it my best shot, but right now, 608 00:32:44,436 --> 00:32:46,369 beating murder one could be the best we could do. 609 00:32:47,903 --> 00:32:49,769 Well, maybe it's right. 610 00:32:49,836 --> 00:32:54,769 - I beg your pardon? - Maybe I did mean to kill him. 611 00:32:54,836 --> 00:32:58,669 I thought all night about those questions he asked me-- the district attorney? 612 00:32:58,736 --> 00:33:02,669 It's all true. I knew it was dangerous, covering his mouth. 613 00:33:02,736 --> 00:33:07,703 I wanted him dead. What if, maybe, part of me did do it on purpose, Ellenor? 614 00:33:07,769 --> 00:33:10,436 I'm not sure that I didn't. 615 00:33:12,136 --> 00:33:14,836 Okay, you know what? We're not gonna argue that. Let's go. 616 00:33:18,803 --> 00:33:20,636 You got any ideas? 617 00:33:20,703 --> 00:33:22,703 Well, don't recall her to the stand. 618 00:33:22,769 --> 00:33:25,003 She suddenly wonders whether she did it on purpose or not? 619 00:33:25,069 --> 00:33:27,636 She takes that whole "truth, so help you God" part a little too seriously. 620 00:33:27,703 --> 00:33:29,769 Should probably keep her out of the room. 621 00:33:29,836 --> 00:33:32,969 Maybe I'll take another stab at a plea. You know, I'll see if the-- 622 00:33:33,036 --> 00:33:36,503 What? What you just said. 623 00:33:36,569 --> 00:33:38,669 Now she wonders whether she did it on purpose or not... 624 00:33:38,736 --> 00:33:41,536 and that whole "so help you God" part"-- that's it. 625 00:33:41,603 --> 00:33:44,136 That's what? That's our closing. 626 00:33:44,203 --> 00:33:46,336 What are you talking about? 627 00:33:46,403 --> 00:33:48,403 Well, could it be true? Could it be? 628 00:33:48,469 --> 00:33:52,203 All I can say is, I've never gotten any mandate. 629 00:33:52,269 --> 00:33:54,236 But you haven't had any cases against us. 630 00:33:54,303 --> 00:33:56,203 They know you're sleeping with me. 631 00:33:56,269 --> 00:33:58,303 Bobby, let's face it. 632 00:34:00,569 --> 00:34:03,003 Your firm has pissed this office off. 633 00:34:03,069 --> 00:34:05,336 That Joey Heric case made you a target. 634 00:34:05,403 --> 00:34:08,003 And when those police officers got killed-- 635 00:34:08,069 --> 00:34:11,436 For me, as far as my office goes, 636 00:34:11,503 --> 00:34:13,469 I'm sleeping with the enemy. 637 00:34:13,536 --> 00:34:16,036 The day I stop winning my cases, I'm gone. 638 00:34:16,103 --> 00:34:19,203 Because of me? Because of you. 639 00:34:22,503 --> 00:34:24,669 Little common sense here, folks. 640 00:34:24,736 --> 00:34:26,636 She wanted him dead. 641 00:34:26,703 --> 00:34:30,569 She stood to inherit everything if he died. 642 00:34:30,636 --> 00:34:34,269 She threatened to kill him in a dangerous sex scene. 643 00:34:34,336 --> 00:34:36,636 These aren't just things we put into evidence. 644 00:34:36,703 --> 00:34:39,136 These are things she flat-out admits. 645 00:34:39,203 --> 00:34:41,603 Sara Katlin told you all this. 646 00:34:41,669 --> 00:34:43,603 You don't wanna believe me? Believe her. 647 00:34:43,669 --> 00:34:46,436 Of course she intended to kill him. 648 00:34:46,503 --> 00:34:49,669 And even if you should somehow want to resist that conclusion, 649 00:34:49,736 --> 00:34:53,936 you simply cannot escape her guilt for murder in the second degree. 650 00:34:54,003 --> 00:34:56,703 For murder two, all she need have... 651 00:34:56,769 --> 00:35:02,269 is an awareness of an unjustifiably high risk to human life... 652 00:35:02,336 --> 00:35:04,769 and she basically admitted that too, didn't she? 653 00:35:04,836 --> 00:35:07,236 Ladies and gentlemen, 654 00:35:07,303 --> 00:35:09,203 if you don't wanna believe me, 655 00:35:09,269 --> 00:35:11,303 please, believe her. 656 00:35:20,436 --> 00:35:23,403 Well, it would be easy to dismiss her, wouldn't it? 657 00:35:23,469 --> 00:35:26,669 Porno queen-- We all saw what she does for a living. 658 00:35:26,736 --> 00:35:29,703 And whatever character traits you want to attach to her, 659 00:35:29,769 --> 00:35:32,536 integrity really isn't the first one that comes to mind. 660 00:35:32,603 --> 00:35:35,569 Not that this is at all relevant, 661 00:35:35,636 --> 00:35:39,269 but when I watched the footage, I was disgusted. 662 00:35:39,336 --> 00:35:42,169 But every defendant gets his or her day in court, 663 00:35:42,236 --> 00:35:45,603 and as her lawyer it is my job to present her side of the story. 664 00:35:45,669 --> 00:35:51,236 And since we came in today armed only with her word, well-- 665 00:35:51,303 --> 00:35:54,269 What could her word be worth? 666 00:35:54,336 --> 00:35:57,003 Turns out, quite a bit. 667 00:35:57,069 --> 00:35:58,969 So much so that the prosecutor... 668 00:35:59,036 --> 00:36:02,569 just stood before you and asked you to believe her. 669 00:36:03,703 --> 00:36:05,536 Believe her. 670 00:36:05,603 --> 00:36:07,603 And the reason he made that argument... 671 00:36:07,669 --> 00:36:10,403 is because of all the things that jumped out during this trial, 672 00:36:10,469 --> 00:36:14,069 the most conspicuous was her truthfulness. 673 00:36:14,136 --> 00:36:16,003 She didn't hide a damn thing. 674 00:36:16,069 --> 00:36:19,636 She got up on that witness chair, and to her own detriment, 675 00:36:19,703 --> 00:36:22,536 she told the truth. 676 00:36:22,603 --> 00:36:25,636 Admitted she hated her husband. Admitted she wanted him dead. 677 00:36:25,703 --> 00:36:29,436 Even admitted that she was glad when he died. 678 00:36:31,069 --> 00:36:35,936 Now, nobody-- not me, not him, 679 00:36:36,003 --> 00:36:38,036 and I suspect, not even you-- 680 00:36:38,103 --> 00:36:41,536 ever expected that much truth from her. 681 00:36:43,036 --> 00:36:44,903 But what did she say... 682 00:36:44,969 --> 00:36:48,636 when asked whether or not she intended to kill her husband? 683 00:36:48,703 --> 00:36:51,503 She said no. 684 00:36:51,569 --> 00:36:54,403 And when asked was she so reckless... 685 00:36:54,469 --> 00:36:56,903 that she should have foreseen that he might die, 686 00:36:56,969 --> 00:36:59,436 she did not admit that. 687 00:36:59,503 --> 00:37:01,636 She said, "I don't know." 688 00:37:01,703 --> 00:37:04,736 That was honest. 689 00:37:04,803 --> 00:37:07,403 She didn't know. 690 00:37:07,469 --> 00:37:09,636 That is reasonable doubt, ladies and gentlemen. 691 00:37:09,703 --> 00:37:11,569 She didn't know. 692 00:37:12,969 --> 00:37:16,903 And her doubt... is also your doubt, 693 00:37:16,969 --> 00:37:19,869 if you take her at her word. 694 00:37:19,936 --> 00:37:23,336 So I'm gonna ask you to go back into that room, and I am gonna... 695 00:37:23,403 --> 00:37:25,269 make the same request that he just made. 696 00:37:25,336 --> 00:37:27,703 If you don't believe me, 697 00:37:28,803 --> 00:37:30,869 please... 698 00:37:30,936 --> 00:37:33,169 believe her. 699 00:37:35,969 --> 00:37:38,003 Thank you. 700 00:37:38,069 --> 00:37:40,569 [ Spectators Murmuring ] 701 00:37:46,136 --> 00:37:49,936 How long have they been out? Six hours now. 702 00:37:50,003 --> 00:37:52,736 - They'll suspend at 7:00 and then resume tomorrow. - You still got a shot? 703 00:37:52,803 --> 00:37:55,436 Ellenor was strong. Can I talk to you a second? 704 00:38:05,836 --> 00:38:09,203 I've been thinking about your little... accusation. 705 00:38:09,269 --> 00:38:11,469 [ Groans ] I'm sorry about that. 706 00:38:12,903 --> 00:38:14,636 It may be true. 707 00:38:16,536 --> 00:38:20,003 I didn't tell her about us with any motive to break you up, 708 00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:22,103 and I do think you make a great couple. 709 00:38:24,436 --> 00:38:27,469 But I'd be lying if I said I didn't miss you. 710 00:38:30,169 --> 00:38:32,269 Well, is it-- 711 00:38:33,969 --> 00:38:36,703 I-Is this... gonna be a problem? 712 00:38:38,203 --> 00:38:40,336 I don't think so. 713 00:38:41,236 --> 00:38:43,436 I hope not. 714 00:38:44,736 --> 00:38:47,136 I miss the sex. 715 00:38:47,203 --> 00:38:50,103 I miss being held by you. 716 00:38:51,136 --> 00:38:53,869 I miss you. 717 00:39:01,736 --> 00:39:03,969 - [ Door Opens ] - Hey, Lindsay-- Jury's back. 718 00:39:04,036 --> 00:39:05,869 - Already? - Yeah. Let's go. 719 00:39:08,703 --> 00:39:10,703 Jury's back. 720 00:39:10,769 --> 00:39:13,303 I heard. 721 00:39:15,203 --> 00:39:17,303 See you. 722 00:39:18,303 --> 00:39:21,369 See ya. [ Door Opens, Closes ] 723 00:39:22,369 --> 00:39:26,203 [ Spectators Murmuring ] 724 00:39:51,803 --> 00:39:53,836 Madam Foreperson, 725 00:39:54,269 --> 00:39:56,869 the jury has reached its unanimous verdict? 726 00:39:56,936 --> 00:39:58,369 We have, Your Honor. 727 00:40:02,103 --> 00:40:04,036 What say you, Madam Foreperson? 728 00:40:04,103 --> 00:40:07,236 Commonwealth versus Katlin. 729 00:40:07,303 --> 00:40:10,336 On the charge of murder in the first degree, 730 00:40:10,403 --> 00:40:14,803 we find the defendant, Sara Katlin, not guilty. 731 00:40:14,869 --> 00:40:16,836 [ Gasps ] 732 00:40:16,903 --> 00:40:19,669 On the charge of murder in the second degree, 733 00:40:19,736 --> 00:40:22,903 we find the defendant, Sara Katlin, 734 00:40:22,969 --> 00:40:25,169 not guilty. 735 00:40:25,236 --> 00:40:28,369 [ Sobbing ] Thank you. 736 00:40:28,436 --> 00:40:31,303 [ Ellenor ] Sara, they believed you. 737 00:40:51,103 --> 00:40:53,169 [ Door Opens ] [ Footsteps ] 738 00:40:57,936 --> 00:41:01,869 What are you doin'? Just sitting. What are you doing? 739 00:41:01,936 --> 00:41:03,969 I actually had a date tonight. 740 00:41:04,036 --> 00:41:06,136 I just came by to pick up my case. 741 00:41:06,203 --> 00:41:08,069 How'd it go? Terrible. 742 00:41:08,136 --> 00:41:10,969 - She asked me what I did for a living. - And you told? 743 00:41:11,036 --> 00:41:13,103 [ Laughs ] [ Chuckling ] 744 00:41:14,003 --> 00:41:16,636 [ Groans ] So-- 745 00:41:16,703 --> 00:41:18,636 [ Groans ] 746 00:41:20,236 --> 00:41:22,336 What's goin' on? 747 00:41:23,636 --> 00:41:26,603 I think I've been here too long already. Uh-oh. 748 00:41:26,669 --> 00:41:29,069 We had a client who was innocent. 749 00:41:29,136 --> 00:41:31,069 Well, at least more innocent than guilty. 750 00:41:31,136 --> 00:41:33,669 And we were completely unprepared for it. 751 00:41:33,736 --> 00:41:36,669 I looked at her like an alien. Innocent-- What's that? 752 00:41:36,736 --> 00:41:38,803 And it almost cost her. 753 00:41:40,836 --> 00:41:43,269 Have you ever had an innocent one, Eugene? Hmm. 754 00:41:43,336 --> 00:41:45,903 I'd have to check. [ Chuckles ] 755 00:41:45,969 --> 00:41:49,336 But it's like Bobby says-- Every once in a great, great while, 756 00:41:49,403 --> 00:41:51,469 you get one, and that's why we do this. 757 00:41:51,536 --> 00:41:54,369 Remember? I guess. I don't know. 758 00:41:54,436 --> 00:41:58,469 I'm afraid if I do this too long I'll lose complete perspective. 759 00:41:58,536 --> 00:42:01,569 It's better since I dropped the drug dealers, but still. 760 00:42:03,169 --> 00:42:05,569 Did you know I've slept with Bobby? 761 00:42:06,836 --> 00:42:10,036 Could you repeat that last part? It was a while back. 762 00:42:10,103 --> 00:42:13,136 That's just between us-- your little party favor for walking in here tonight. 763 00:42:13,203 --> 00:42:16,269 Oh. I just wonder, have I lost perspective? 764 00:42:16,336 --> 00:42:18,369 Did sleeping with him make me lose perspective? 765 00:42:18,436 --> 00:42:21,903 Was I meant to be a criminal lawyer, or was I just meant to sleep with one? 766 00:42:21,969 --> 00:42:24,736 I knew everything I was and wanted to be when I graduated from law school. 767 00:42:24,803 --> 00:42:27,136 I really did. And now-- [ Chuckles ] 768 00:42:27,203 --> 00:42:29,236 I know nothing. 769 00:42:29,303 --> 00:42:34,103 Okay. And, uh, what you don't know-- 770 00:42:34,169 --> 00:42:36,269 uh, it's about Bobby? 771 00:42:36,336 --> 00:42:39,069 Not so much Bobby. I mean, I-- 772 00:42:39,136 --> 00:42:41,269 I know what that was... or wasn't. 773 00:42:41,336 --> 00:42:44,903 It's more about... everything. 774 00:42:44,969 --> 00:42:48,769 I feel like, being in this kind of work, I don't know who I am anymore... 775 00:42:48,836 --> 00:42:50,869 when it comes to everything. 776 00:42:50,936 --> 00:42:53,303 Oh. Welcome to the club. 777 00:42:55,103 --> 00:42:57,169 [ Laughs ] That's it? 778 00:42:57,236 --> 00:42:59,169 That-- That's your wisdom? [ Chuckling ] 779 00:42:59,236 --> 00:43:01,136 "Welcome to the club"? 780 00:43:01,203 --> 00:43:05,336 Lindsay, in our line of work, it isn't too good to be ponderous. 781 00:43:05,403 --> 00:43:08,169 You got an innocent client off today. 782 00:43:08,236 --> 00:43:10,869 Enjoy it. Savor it, even. 783 00:43:41,569 --> 00:43:43,469 [ Woman ] You stinker!