1 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:37,760 FEBRUARY 2019 2 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,040 I don't think getting knocked out of the German Cup 3 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,120 was a big blow to the group's morale. 4 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,560 I think Dortmund realized that if Marco Reus isn't available, 5 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,000 or if the first-choice goalie is injured, it gets difficult. 6 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,720 Unfortunately Marco will be out for a while. 7 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,200 The injury has turned out to be a torn muscle. 8 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,000 He won't be available for the next few matches. 9 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,520 We have an important match against Hoffenheim. 10 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,760 They've always been tough opposition for us. 11 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,560 Then we travel to Tottenham in the Champions League. 12 00:02:31,920 --> 00:02:34,600 It's a bitter loss for us to be without Marco, 13 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,960 not just because of his goals, but also because 14 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,840 of his presence on the pitch, he's always led the way. 15 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,840 He's someone who will still sprint in the last 10 minutes 16 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,080 and who is willing to work very defensively for the team as well. 17 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:53,400 It will be a big challenge for us to replace him in the next two games. 18 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,840 MATCHDAY 21 19 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,960 In the run-up, there were hints that Lucien wasn't feeling well. 20 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,040 Several players missed the cup match due to illness. 21 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,200 And it got really acute the day before the match, 22 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,560 when Lucien wasn't at training. 23 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,880 We met up at the hotel, but then we were informed 24 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,320 that Lucien was banned by the doctor 25 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,840 from taking part at the match due to the risk of infection. 26 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:40,120 We tried to respond as if Lucien was there. 27 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,920 When we got the rival team's lineup, we immediately called Lucien 28 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,120 to discuss what formation we could expect 29 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:53,280 and what information we should give our lads before the kick-off. 30 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,760 So we were reassured and didn't feel completely alone. 31 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,760 It was the first time that the manager wasn't there in the stadium. 32 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,240 You're always keyed up, but it's a different situation for everyone 33 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:18,480 on the bench and on the pitch when the manager isn't in the dugout. 34 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,040 Come on, Mario, on you go. 35 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:36,760 I wear the headset every game 36 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,000 and I'm always linked up to Serdar, the video analyst. 37 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,880 That game was special, as Serdar was on the phone with Lucien. 38 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,520 So we had the information that Lucien was giving to Serdar. 39 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,440 It wasn't total "Chinese Whispers", but basically 40 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,400 the information was passed on to me, 41 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,400 I passed it on to the bench through Manni, 42 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,520 and we tried to influence the game and find solutions. 43 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,920 Reus missed that match, after getting injured against Bremen, and no one knew 44 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:20,640 how Dortmund's attack would fare without the Bundesliga's current best player. 45 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,320 For quite a while we were of the opinion: very well. 46 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:36,760 It was a very good first half. We had lots of chances, we won the ball a lot 47 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,960 and made a very confident impression on me. 48 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:57,160 HALF TIME 49 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:25,080 I was responsible for the half-time analysis, and I showed 50 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,160 individual clips to the players. 51 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:32,120 With the lads who don't speak German, I do it all again in English. 52 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:36,640 There are two options. Either he attacks you or he does. 53 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:38,800 He usually comes up. 54 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,080 What we need now, if he's coming out of position... 55 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:47,080 If you're playing side by side here, offer one side. 56 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,800 Then we have to really run at Hübner or Bičakčić, 57 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,160 so they don't have lots of time to play the long ball. 58 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:55,560 Alright? 59 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,440 Both ways are possible. It works the way we always play it, 60 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,920 with our wide players pressing. That works. 61 00:07:04,280 --> 00:07:09,040 But then we must all move across. If we close down Schulz, who is here, 62 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,040 then everyone must move across. Or he'll play a through ball at once. 63 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,440 Then Rapha definitely has to go in as well. Okay? 64 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,160 We were very satisfied with the first half, 65 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,280 knowing that Hoffenheim is the most dangerous team in the second half, 66 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,000 statistically. 67 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,600 Especially in the first 15 minutes they're dangerous and score many goals. 68 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,520 We mentioned that at half time to alert the lads to that. 69 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:40,480 Abdou, from the 45th to the 60th minute they're good and score lots of goals. 70 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,440 They're going to come back out there, maybe with a new formation. 71 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,600 You'll have to watch out for that. 72 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,800 We wanted to extend our lead of course, 73 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:53,040 but unfortunately football doesn't always go to plan. 74 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,240 We want to get the third goal. Okay? 75 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,480 Got it? 76 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:05,000 Come on, defend well, defend well. Keep defending well. 77 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,320 In the first period, we were in the opponents' half, 78 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,400 and even if the scoreline was still to our advantage, 79 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,840 we were playing in our own half in the second period. 80 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,040 We were lucky a few times, 81 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,840 but then we started to counter. It was a different game. 82 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,680 I was still a little sick that day. I was watching at home with friends. 83 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:44,120 I was upbeat, even though we had gone out against Bremen a few days before. 84 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,760 But in football, you get phases or games 85 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,320 where you're over-confident and you think 86 00:08:50,680 --> 00:08:53,160 a few percent less will be enough. 87 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,960 Even after going 3-0 down, Hoffenheim kept on playing that day. 88 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,560 We had a chance to make it 4-0, which would have been game over. 89 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,720 Little, little mistakes. 3-1 was okay. 90 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,080 They accepted it at once. The players said, "It happens." 91 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,240 Going to 3-2, that was an obvious mistake. 92 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,000 The players were afraid, because it was 3-2. 93 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,640 The problem was that we had to win. 94 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:47,120 You forget to keep playing. You make mistakes, 95 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,840 beacuse you're no longer as focused on the game. 96 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,680 "What do we have to do?" 97 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:58,120 You think, "If they score a third goal, what then?" 98 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,480 You have to think differently. You have to defend calmly. 99 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,800 And then the third goal is completely unnecessary. 100 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:13,880 Not only against Hoffenheim. Sadly, we've conceded unnecessary goals. 101 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,720 Those are mistakes you can't afford at this level. 102 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,880 At our final training session yesterday, I felt there were many balls 103 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,840 that weren't defended well, especially from set pieces. 104 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,720 And unfortunately that was the case again today. 105 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,880 In general with crosses, the opponent got to the ball too often. 106 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,080 Every game throws up issues for us as coaches, 107 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,960 which we try to address in the time after. 108 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,040 And this is an issue we are addressing, 109 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,000 that we are working on even harder now. 110 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,400 As I said, offensive players like Jadon and... 111 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,320 and all the others did a good job. 112 00:11:05,680 --> 00:11:08,400 But attacking players also have to defend. 113 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,160 That wasn't good today. 114 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,840 It ended up 3-3. They conceded three goals, 115 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,800 and they didn't really know what happened in the final 20 minutes. 116 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,840 Losing a 3-0 lead right after going out of the Cup against Bremen 117 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,200 was the second blow within a few days. That left a mark. 118 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,480 You can't watch TV 119 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,520 and see your team playing, and you're so... 120 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,360 But the doctor said I had to stay home, or else I might 121 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,960 infect everyone else. I didn't want that. 122 00:11:50,680 --> 00:11:53,120 You have to stay at home. It's very, very strange. 123 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,080 It's very hard. There are moments in life that are hard to describe. 124 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,720 Feeling emptiness, disappointment and frustration is very human, 125 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:13,160 because we all tried our hardest to beat Hoffenheim. 126 00:12:13,560 --> 00:12:15,360 It didn't work out. 127 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,240 And at that moment you feel terrible. 128 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:40,960 Tottenham have a track record that is a bit unsettling for Dortmund. 129 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,720 Last season in the Champions League under Peter Bosz 130 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,040 they had no chance against them, as they are a team 131 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,840 who know exactly how to hurt Dortmund. 132 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:58,000 They can switch extremely quickly and launch very quick counterattacks. 133 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,120 That isn't always easy for Borussia Dortmund to defend against. 134 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,280 REUS OUT FOR 10 MORE DAYS! 135 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,360 "NO LIMITS FOR US" Of the eight possible fixtures, 136 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,360 Tottenham was the second most difficult. Liverpool the most difficult. 137 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:24,040 But I still think that we don't have to hide from Tottenham Hotspur at all. 138 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,920 CEO Even if these prophecies surface, 139 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,440 that German football is doomed. 140 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,440 The odd end to the Hoffenheim match 141 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,160 made them lose their rhythm and their flow. 142 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,760 They traveled to Tottenham... 143 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:52,720 Of the Champions League duels between the Bundesliga and the Premier League 144 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,040 this was the most evenly-matched tie. 145 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,920 Given Bayern Munich's season, Liverpool looked like they were better. 146 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,760 With Man City versus Schalke there was no question. 147 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,040 But Tottenham versus Dortmund looked like a 50-50 match. 148 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:15,720 CHAMPIONS LEAGUE ROUND OF 16 - 1st LEG 149 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:29,080 When I went on to the pitch at the stadium yesterday, I was a bit queasy, 150 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,080 because the last time I was here, in 2013, 151 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,520 DIRECTOR OF CONTRACT PLAYER DEPARTMENT we lost the Champions League final. 152 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,560 And you can feel the tension rising. 153 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,400 Our football is often characterized by exhilarating offensive play. 154 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,040 We have incredible quality, but we mustn't forget to defend. 155 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,040 That was a bitter experience in the last two matches. 156 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:55,680 I think the lads are focused and know what's at stake, 157 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:00,560 because it's possible to ruin everything in two competitions within one week. 158 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:02,640 We don't want that to happen today. 159 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,440 When I watch at home, I sweat more than when I'm on the pitch, 160 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:43,880 because it affects me more, because I think about things more and see more, 161 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,560 and I get annoyed when things don't work out. 162 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:51,400 So the 2nd half was bitter, because we were evenly matched in the 1st half. 163 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,800 In the 2nd half we stopped playing football 164 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,040 and defending like we did in the 1st. 165 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:14,320 We made two mistakes in the 47th minute, which led to us going 1-0 down. 166 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,840 From there, the team 167 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,080 - and internationally maturity is more important than domestically - 168 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,040 couldn't shake it off and conceded more goals. 169 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:28,200 We've seen that before. It happened when we were champions in '11/12. 170 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,320 We went out in the group stage in both years. It's part of the learning curve. 171 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,000 With the goals they scored, 172 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:38,280 they played to their strengths, their physical presence on the pitch. 173 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,760 We didn't win a lot of one-on-one duels. 174 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,680 We knew they were dangerous in the center and at set pieces. 175 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,320 And that's how it was in the 2nd half. 176 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,640 I think we certainly have to work on that, 177 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,960 as it's not the first time we've conceded goals like that. 178 00:17:10,120 --> 00:17:12,200 In the end they fell apart. 179 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,920 You have to put it that way, if you ship two goals in the dying minutes, 180 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:21,280 losing 3-0 and robbing yourself of any chance in the return leg at home. 181 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,000 THE END OF CASUAL EASE 182 00:17:32,360 --> 00:17:35,240 DORTMUND HAMMERED AT WEMBLEY 183 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,640 A BITTER NIGHT IN LONDON 184 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:43,040 RED ALERT 185 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,080 TRUE LOVE. 186 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,440 Marco has a muscle tear in the rectus femoris. 187 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,640 We did an MRI scan today and we were hoping 188 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,120 we wouldn't find any fluid anymore 189 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,560 and that maybe it wasn't as bad as it looked at first. 190 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,400 But unfortunately that wasn't the case. 191 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,080 So we decided to approach the rehab less aggressively. 192 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,560 If it was the Champions League final, with six weeks off afterwards, 193 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,400 I'd definitely risk it. 194 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,120 There's no great reason not to, 195 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,880 but in one or two places there's still some fluid. 196 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,880 With an edema the risk is too great, both for me and the doctor, 197 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,320 that if I did play and in the 60th or 65th minute 198 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,040 I sprinted or took a shot, the tear would open up again. 199 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,320 Then I'd be back to square one, facing a three-week break. 200 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,640 So I've learned a bit from the past. 201 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,040 Knee to the chest, walk to the ball. 202 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,960 Then in three-step rhythm. 203 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,880 Cross over. There and back. 204 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,960 Over the last week, we've built up his running, 205 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,800 increasing the intensity and then we added in the ball. 206 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,800 Now it's a case of developing movement patterns, 207 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,280 bringing in changes of direction, slowly working up to sprints, 208 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,120 and getting him back into team training. 209 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,520 We have to start ball work late in the rehab, 210 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,560 because with the rectus, 211 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:25,920 shooting is what poses the risk. And unfortunately he has to shoot. 212 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,800 Skip with double contact. 213 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,800 We didn't win our most recent games, 214 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,760 which we're not used to, as the first half of the season went perfectly. 215 00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:40,480 We're in the same phase that Bayern had in the first half of the season. 216 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:46,000 We're not seeing games out and we're making mistakes that cost goals. 217 00:19:46,360 --> 00:19:48,800 Sideways, stabilize. 218 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,600 Three times per leg. Keep it short. 219 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:57,160 When I'm out injured and feel that I was in good form, 220 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,040 it's frustrating that I can't help the team now, 221 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,560 when they maybe need my input. 222 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,440 We have enough players who have certain quality. 223 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,560 This is the acid test. 224 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,960 If we want to succeed, we must step into the breach for each other. 225 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,160 You have no other choice if another key player is out. 226 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,480 Take the ball and move freely a bit. 227 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,400 It would be unfair to the other players to say, 228 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,880 "The team's only half as good." The squad has too much quality for that. 229 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,440 But Marco Reus is something of a talisman for the team. 230 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,600 He's having an outstanding season, 231 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,720 he's doing what he does best from his favorite position, 232 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,800 and he's putting in a good performance in almost every game he plays. 233 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,920 There's a psychological effect when he's out, 234 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,520 which is the idea, "He's our most important player 235 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,320 and we struggle without him." 236 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,080 Dribble through the posts with the ball. 237 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,560 There was a big discussion in recent years 238 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,080 when Marco didn't join for a major tournament. 239 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,760 As the national team, Germany has a far bigger pool of outstanding players, 240 00:21:08,120 --> 00:21:11,640 and yet people still feel the German team really misses Marco Reus 241 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,480 at the World Cup or the European Championship. 242 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,880 When we have to do without Marco Reus, the impact on us is even greater 243 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,960 than on the national team. 244 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,520 Move freely. 245 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,120 Marco's availability is an issue for everyone. 246 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,280 People often ask how it's looking for him. 247 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,720 But at the end of the day, we have more than one player on the pitch. 248 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:41,280 The lads have to manage without Marco. But there is pressure on him. 249 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,600 Working with him, you notice he's very eager. 250 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:54,000 He's also cautious with some things. Then there's the pressure on him. 251 00:21:54,360 --> 00:21:58,480 He doesn't really let it show. He keeps a cool head with it. 252 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,040 I've often put pressure on myself 253 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,080 because I wanted to return from an injury 254 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,480 straight to the highest level to help the team. 255 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:17,280 There's media pressure, as everyone says we'll be fine once I'm back. 256 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,480 But it isn't that simple in soccer. 257 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,440 Borussia Dortmund is a traditional club in the Ruhrgebiet. 258 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:43,160 And there's no other region in Germany where football is followed 259 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:48,040 so intensely by people in the region, in the city, as in the Ruhrgebiet. 260 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,520 You have to understand that, 261 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,640 to make sense of the history of Borussia Dortmund. 262 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:58,000 There have always been upheavals, there have always been big dramas. 263 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,240 In the mid-1960s, the first economic crisis hit the Ruhrgebiet. 264 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:12,040 There was an ebb in the flow of big financial support 265 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,560 from the mines and steel works to the clubs in the area. 266 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,760 And football had changed radically with the launch of the Bundesliga. 267 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,760 In '69 we were playing to avoid relegation. 268 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:31,160 And sadly it got to the point 269 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,200 where the team was no longer able to compete at the highest level. 270 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,760 Borussia Dortmund went through 271 00:23:39,120 --> 00:23:40,920 the same upheavals as the region. 272 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,080 CEO And that forges a bond. 273 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,880 But then we suffered quite a big blow, 274 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,720 which was a severe test for me. We relegated in '72. 275 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:56,800 That wasn't part of the plan. I was 13 then, a child of the Bundesliga. 276 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,480 It was a tough time for me. 277 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,760 I was born and bred here. 278 00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:07,240 If you like football, you're automatically a Borussia fan. 279 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,320 In the League Two days I'd be there in the south stand, 280 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,360 with a scarf my grandmother had knitted. 281 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,640 The opposing teams were Barmbek-Uhlenhorst, 282 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,880 or Spielvereinigung Fürth, who still existed then. 283 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,000 It was a catastrophe, if I think about it, 284 00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:29,760 playing in League Two as a young man, 285 00:24:30,120 --> 00:24:33,320 traveling to the depths of the local region. 286 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,440 You went to Lüner SV, to Lüdenscheid, twice to Gütersloh... 287 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,760 You played Eintracht Gelsenkirchen. It really couldn't get any worse. 288 00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:46,080 But hey, you had to get through it. And we got laughed at everywhere. 289 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,000 "The Dortmund idiots, winners of the Cup Winners' Cup six years ago." 290 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:51,560 That's how it was. 291 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,480 I remember being there live, 292 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,960 in Nuremberg, June 17, 1976, 293 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,440 and June 23, we beat Nuremberg 3-2 in the return leg. 294 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,640 We were back in the Bundesliga. I was 17. 295 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,000 One of my happiest days. The world was in order again. 296 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,200 That time in League Two was basically the just reward, 297 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,240 because there were big changes, 298 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,160 when the whole direction of German football changed, 299 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,360 with the launch of the Bundesliga, that Dortmund totally missed. 300 00:25:54,720 --> 00:26:00,000 They were behind and needed a long time to catch up with those changes. 301 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:08,000 We always had big-name managers, also at that time. 302 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,440 Udo Lattek joined us in the '70s. 303 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,520 Guys, keep going! Without the ball. 304 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:18,520 Branco Zebec, a great connoisseur of football, who very sadly 305 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,360 didn't stay here for long because of his illness. 306 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,200 That could have come to something, as he taught quite a lot 307 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,880 to the players of the time, Burgsmüller, Abramczik, Klotz, Rüssmann. 308 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,040 But there was no great breakthrough then. 309 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,720 In addition, there were massive financial problems. 310 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,320 At the end of the '70s, Reinhard Rauball had to come in for the first time, 311 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:49,240 facing a very precarious situation and acting as a restructuring expert. 312 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:55,520 The headlines Borussia Dortmund were making then were generally negative. 313 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,640 Initially I learned the hard way. The club was rudderless for six months. 314 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:07,600 The head of the Dortmund Stadtsparkasse invited me to a lavish meal 315 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,680 and pitched the idea to me, asking me if I could imagine doing it. 316 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,160 Of course, I turned him down, 317 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:20,640 because I was 32, a lawyer here in Dortmund with a young family 318 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:26,400 and I had a different mid-term outlook on what I should and shouldn't do. 319 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,480 But then I made a crucial mistake and said, 320 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,000 "If you can't find anyone, you can come by." 321 00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:38,840 Once I'd gone, I think he raised his arms in the air and said, 322 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,840 "The search is over, we found someone. We just need to wait." 323 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,840 A deferential delay. And that's how it went. 324 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,600 Then in the '85/86 season we were in danger of being relegated. 325 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:59,160 It was only the genius of the "Cobra", of Jürgen Wegmann, 326 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,920 that saved Borussia Dortmund from being relegated again, 327 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,880 with an incredible equalizer in the dying moments 328 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,680 of the play-off match against Fortuna Köln. 329 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,680 We'd lost the first leg 2-0 in Cologne. 330 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:20,120 We were leading 2-1 in the second leg. That score would have meant relegation. 331 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:25,160 Then in the very last minute, or the very last second, 332 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,480 we scored the equalizer. Anderbrügge crossed the ball in, 333 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,840 and Jürgen Wegmann, the "Cobra", managed to score the goal we needed. 334 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,760 The roars here went on forever. 335 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,600 That meant there was a third match. 336 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:48,400 That was a decisive win, we won 8-0, and that meant we stayed in. 337 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,840 GERMAN CUP FINAL 1989 338 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,520 I think 1989 was a year of destiny. 339 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,360 Not only for Germany in general, but also particularly for Borussia Dortmund. 340 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,840 The German Cup victory, winning against Werder Bremen, 341 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,840 as the underdog, in the final in Berlin, 342 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,720 the very last cup final in a divided Berlin... 343 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,040 That was something very special. 344 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,800 Before the game, the Dortmund line-up 345 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,640 was still unclear, as Norbert Dickel, our established center forward, 346 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,440 had a long-standing knee injury. 347 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,800 It was a meniscus and cartilage injury. 348 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,880 In and of itself, not a dramatic injury. 349 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:57,680 But in the end it got so bad that I could never play properly again. 350 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:04,360 The doctors patched him up so that he could take to the field. 351 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,240 That was a stroke of luck for us, 352 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,040 as Nobby scored two goals that will be remembered for eternity. 353 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,080 Bremen had an excellent team and took the lead. Then with Nobby, 354 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,360 we turned the game around. 355 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,600 There were unbelievable eruptions of emotion, 356 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,600 because in 23 years, not much had happened in terms of Dortmund soccer. 357 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,720 Frank Mill's goal then made it 2-1. 358 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,360 And then came the most phenomenal goal of that final, 359 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,520 was when Frank Mill passed the ball from the right-hand side. 360 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,240 It looped across, and Nobby just leathered it 361 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,440 and the ball zipped into the net, making it 3-1, all but assuring victory. 362 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:11,440 GERMAN CUP WINNERS 1989 363 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,520 Everyone who was there 364 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,360 says that that title was a very important one, 365 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,760 perhaps the most emotional one that Dortmund ever won. 366 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,280 Although Dortmund won bigger titles before and since. 367 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,520 But many people say that, in terms of emotional significance 368 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,640 for the club and the fans, this was the most important one. 369 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,000 They were almost overrun. 370 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,800 The team flew back from Berlin 371 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,080 and received a message on the way, 372 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,760 "We don't know how many people are waiting for you. Brace yourselves." 373 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:06,320 And indeed there were mass celebrations, people were really partying. 374 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,840 I do see the cup win in '89 375 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,400 as a kind of initial spark 376 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,640 into a much more successful era for Borussia Dortmund. 377 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,160 MATCHDAY 22 378 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,400 The last few days have been hard for us. We had to shake it off. 379 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,240 But we did that well after the Tottenham game. 380 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,560 It took a while, but we analyzed it well. 381 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,440 If you have something to say to someone, you should say it. 382 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,040 If I have something to say to you, I'll say it to your face. 383 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,480 I won't talk behind your back, that's not good. 384 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,760 I prefer to be frank with people, 385 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,280 whether they like that or not. 386 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,800 That's not my problem. I'm that kind of person. 387 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,720 I sat down in the dressing room with Marco, Axel and Lukas Piszczek 388 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,240 and we said it was time to talk with the whole team, 389 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,160 tell them what a good chance we have this year. They must all realize that. 390 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,280 That we can pull ourselves together, because we know we can, 391 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,800 as we proved it in the first 18 matches. We have to keep going. 392 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:40,240 It was before the Nuremberg game. We told the team what we thought. 393 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,960 We tried to get it across in a positive way. 394 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,640 Just being negative doesn't help. Some players take that the wrong way. 395 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,280 So we tried to get it across in a positive way. 396 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,720 I think the team pretty much understood. 397 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,440 It's all quite co-operative. No one was acting the big shot. 398 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,880 We said, "Guys, we have to start performing on the pitch again." 399 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,680 It all begins with seriousness and respect. 400 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,360 We can't allow any delays anymore. We've had enough. 401 00:34:11,720 --> 00:34:14,440 GOALKEEPER We must focus on the task at hand. 402 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,520 I didn't come here to say, "I play in the Bundesliga, cool." 403 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,480 No, I came to this club to win titles. 404 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:51,360 We were unlucky not to win. Luck was on our side in the 1st half of the season. 405 00:34:51,720 --> 00:34:53,560 The goalkeeper did well. 406 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,240 Still, when I get scoring opportunities, it would be good if one went in. 407 00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:08,080 Playing away against the bottom team and not winning three points is bitter. 408 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,480 He created the situation really well. Mario was involved in the game, 409 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,000 always available up front. But yes... 410 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:22,440 We had no real punch. Now and then a bit overcomplicated up front. 411 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,080 It's hard from the outside. The game ended 10 minutes ago, 412 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,760 and we're all trying to find a solution. We may not find one tonight, but... 413 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,400 It still hurts a bit. 414 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,960 After the triple-setback of Bremen, Hoffenheim and Tottenham 415 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,520 they only took one point in Nuremberg. 416 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,440 And the way that game went, it was a fitting result. 417 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,760 They simply didn't get the ball in the opposition's goal. 418 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,360 It was obvious what Marco Reus can add, the way he splits defenses. 419 00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:07,680 It was a very gloomy February, basically, the way it turned out. 420 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,240 I was at the academy at Standard Liege, 421 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,600 and we were on the way to the academy. 422 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:36,200 You could see the stadium in the mirror, and I said, "I'll play there one day." 423 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,840 That was at the age of nine or ten. 424 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,640 It was a dream, but also my goal, even though I was so young. 425 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,520 But it's what I really wanted to do. 426 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,640 At 20 I was playing the Anderlecht vs. Standard Liege match. 427 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,520 That's the classic, like Bayern Munich against Dortmund, 428 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,320 or Schalke vs. Dortmund. A great rivalry. 429 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:06,040 There was contact in a duel and unfortunately I broke a player's leg. 430 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,960 Afterwards was the worst period of my career. 431 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,640 Especially regarding the media. It was hard for me and my family. I was young. 432 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:20,440 They tried to finish me off, to really hurt both me and my family. 433 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,240 From that moment on, I really became aware 434 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,720 of having to be careful with the media. 435 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:31,240 I thought about it a lot afterwards. Mentally I was then... 436 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,840 ten years ahead of other players, because it was really difficult. 437 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,840 I came here for the project, but also to be a team leader. 438 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,960 We have really talented young players, 439 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,240 but I think the club also needs someone with more experience 440 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,480 to support Marco, Mario, Piszczek and Schmelzer. 441 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,760 I think I've fulfilled my role well so far. 442 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,160 I always try to give all I can and to help the youngsters to progress. 443 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,760 Hello. - Hello. - So, how's it going? 444 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,640 Good, and you? - Good too, thank you. 445 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:16,360 We'll start today with our lesson. 446 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:22,000 Then we'll talk about your homework from last time. 447 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:29,040 Let's talk about our vocabulary first. Okay? Fine. 448 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,880 Did you learn yours, Axel? - A bit. - A bit. And Paco? 449 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,600 Also a bit. 450 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,000 Okay, good. 451 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,240 I've traveled a lot to different countries, different cultures. 452 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,560 I speak English, French, Spanish, Portuguese. Four languages. 453 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:53,480 Obviously, with Paco or Hakimi, who also speak Spanish, 454 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:58,920 when they don't know how to say things, I'm their "translator". 455 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,840 I'm there to help them. And obviously speaking several languages helps. 456 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,000 What's this? - Face? - Perfect. "Das Gesicht." 457 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:08,800 Forehead. 458 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,880 Forehead. - Right. This is the forehead. 459 00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:15,160 Your forehead. That's "die Stirn". Perfect. What's this? 460 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:21,120 The nose? - Nose. - Good. I'd like us to read out loud for a bit. 461 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,760 "Every morning she gets up early 462 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,280 and goes into the chicken coop." 463 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,160 "Hühnerstall." - Hühnerstall. 464 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,200 "She collects fresh eggs." 465 00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:40,840 German isn't easy. It's a question of just daring to speak it. 466 00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:44,720 Whether you're in the dressing room or shopping in town. 467 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,520 You have to dare and not be timid, even if you make mistakes. 468 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,920 It's normal to make mistakes when you learn a new language. 469 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:57,520 I'm sure I'll end up speaking good German, but I'll need a bit more time. 470 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:03,320 MATCHDAY 23 471 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,560 People forget we've only lost one match in the Bundesliga. 472 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,720 If you have three draws, and then lose the fourth match, 473 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,280 ASSISTANT COACH then you haven't won in four games. 474 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,760 If you have three draws, then win the fourth match, 475 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,120 then you're unbeaten in four games. 476 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,840 That's the public perception. So it's very, very important 477 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,920 that after a run of draws you end that run with a win. 478 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,600 The pressure before the Leverkusen game was huge. We knew we needed 3 points. 479 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,160 At home, you have to win. You can't lower your guard. 480 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,400 DIRECTOR OF CONTRACT PLAYER DEPARTMENT Leverkusen were having a good run. 481 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,560 They showed at the weekend how strong they can be. 482 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:59,080 We were poor for the first half hour. Leverkusen put pressure on us. 483 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,600 They ran us ragged, they pressed high. 484 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,480 We couldn't find our way into the game, 485 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,200 we weren't contesting the one-on-ones. 486 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,480 We lost our shape. There was a lot we didn't do well today. 487 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,720 We were lucky they didn't take the lead. We went 1-0 up at the right moment. 488 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:27,800 I don't score often. But scoring in front of the home fans is fantastic. 489 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,520 Incredible. I don't think I'll experience it often, so I relish it. 490 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:44,440 Leverkusen was one of the few games in the Bundesliga season 491 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,520 where we didn't have much possession. We chased the ball a lot. 492 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,800 We relied more on the counterattack. So it wasn't a typical match for us. 493 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:05,640 Then going 2-1 up. Jadon scored a good goal from a cross from Abdu. 494 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,040 But we didn't play with the conviction we would have liked. 495 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,320 It was a good moment to score our third. It was in an important phase. 496 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,880 I was very glad to score again, 497 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,680 especially since I missed a few chances in the last match. 498 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,680 That goal, where Tah was completely unmarked, 499 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,240 can't be allowed to happen. We'd practiced that in training. 500 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,560 But if you really assume 501 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,400 he can't take a direct shot, he'll cross it in... 502 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,080 Maybe we should set up the wall differently, 503 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,320 as our strongest guys in the air were in the wall. 504 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:07,320 It bugs us all. We must look at that. I was also involved in the mistake. 505 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:12,720 We practice that a lot, which is why we don't want that to happen. 506 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,200 I told the team at 3-2, "Keep playing the same way. 507 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,560 Sure, that wasn't good, but let's not lose our heads, we're still in front. 508 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:32,360 We have to see this out. We can't always score another goal." 509 00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:34,320 I think we did that well. 510 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,400 Roman helped us with a few good saves. 511 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,000 It's very important for our confidence that we won today. 512 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,320 When the final whistle went, that was very important. 513 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:58,000 So that's probably why everyone's celebrations were so euphoric today. 514 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,640 The bottom line is three extremely important points at this stage, 515 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:11,760 because it's heating up around us. Bayern won yesterday as well, 516 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,360 and so every win, every point is extremely important. 517 00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:17,960 But you have to get through phases like these. 518 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,640 But I'm still glad Marco will be at training again tomorrow. 519 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,960 Hopefully he can play on Friday, 520 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:30,280 and we'll have another weapon up front, that I hope can help us at the weekend. 521 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,760 Usually Markus tells me in advance what problems the player has. 522 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,440 Or the anthropometric data from Anke on how his weight has changed. 523 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:51,120 I often have muscle mass, blood test results, so I have some data in advance. 524 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,800 Then I always ask for documentation over three days, 525 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,520 where each meal and each snack is photographed. 526 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:03,240 I used to have people write it all down, but it's much simpler 527 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,920 to take a photo before each meal. Everyone usually has a phone on them. 528 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,400 And to add what it is and what they drink. 529 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,200 It's extremely important for us to know that, 530 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:18,480 because the players are banned from taking phones into the dining room. 531 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:24,080 If we get notification about it from you, 532 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,360 then we can protect that player. 533 00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:32,800 Otherwise if the manager sees him, he'll be punished. 534 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,200 We want to change the mindset. They must understand that some things 535 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,520 are not good for the group. 536 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,560 Phones at meals are disruptive. We want them to engage with each other, 537 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,640 to swap ideas. Discipline is important. 538 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,640 It's also been agreed with the manager 539 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,640 that we control things. 540 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,320 It's quite important for me to gauge the portion sizes. 541 00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,320 Sure, of course. One player talked to me about that. 542 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,400 We've introduced new rules, but if it concerns these matters... 543 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,760 Yes, of course. So we just have to know. 544 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,800 Sure, other players might take advantage of that. 545 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:16,600 If certain things aren't upheld, including with the medical work, 546 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:21,480 if a player is always looking at his phone and isn't paying attention, 547 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:26,000 then he'll be reprimanded by me accordingly. 548 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:31,200 I also pass that on to the treasurer of the team. 549 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:36,200 Then there's a financial penalty at least, which I think is appropriate 550 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:41,040 in addition to our well-meaning, objective efforts to convince players 551 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,960 that they have to focus on the job. 552 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,480 I do make sure that there's still a bit of discipline. 553 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:52,760 I wish you'd support that and not undermine it, 554 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:58,520 because you have the disciplinary power and unfortunately I don't. 555 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,880 To give them warnings or exclude them. 556 00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:05,960 You have to keeps things under control. I think we do. 557 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,760 There are always exceptions. Ultimately that's not important. 558 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,520 What's important is that you don't have any lapses on the pitch. 559 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,840 That has to be sanctioned, and there are rules about that. 560 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,440 If everyone does what they want, it doesn't work. 561 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,120 But there's a saying, 562 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,400 "At Barcelona, training starts when Messi is on the pitch." And... 563 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,120 that says quite a lot. 564 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,920 Let's go through the players, as we've always done. 565 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,640 We have two-hour morning meetings, before work really starts here. 566 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,840 We get together, once a week in a big group, 567 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,880 when the athletic and rehab departments also attend. 568 00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:48,600 The plan was for him to join in today and to do a full session tomorrow. 569 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,400 Yes. We have to make sure that he also gets 570 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,800 some treatment once or twice this week. 571 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,960 We had to decide at the weekend if Marco can play against Leverkusen. 572 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:04,920 It was touch and go. We've planned for it. There was a lot of pressure. 573 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,880 I wanted to make a final check. 574 00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:13,640 We'll still be able to adjust things today, but tomorrow... 575 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,120 he'll have to be at full capacity. 576 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,640 The main aim for us 577 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,160 as professionals in top-level sport, is always 578 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,160 to make the most aggressive plan 579 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,640 to get a player back on the pitch 580 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,800 as quickly as possible, but also fit, healthy and able to perform. 581 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,000 Sometimes you lack a single day. 582 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:42,320 I have to take the responsibility to protect a player from further injury, 583 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,040 and from being sidelined for even longer, 584 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:50,320 to protect him with factual arguments. Also to protect the player from himself. 585 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,040 Bend forwards now. 586 00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,320 And back up again. Right knee to your stomach. 587 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,160 Okay, and down again. Over to one side. 588 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,960 To the other side. Okay. 589 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,120 Now lie on your back. 590 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:14,320 Everyone is always asking and is eager for him to return. 591 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,840 But this must always hinge on 592 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,120 a rational decision, not an emotional decision. 593 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,600 Marco doesn't always see the rational part of it. 594 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,640 He's more emotional about it and wants to be on the team, on the pitch. 595 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,200 In this case the risk wasn't acceptable. 596 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,920 Move over a little to your left. 597 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,280 Relax a bit. Now push against that. And now the other side. 598 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,040 Okay, good. Now one more time. 599 00:49:51,720 --> 00:49:54,880 You can't feel anything? No difference? - No. - Okay, good. 600 00:49:55,240 --> 00:49:56,120 Up. 601 00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,880 Of course there's friction. And discussion. But it's good, because 602 00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:03,560 we're all working hard to get the player fit again as soon as possible. 603 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,800 But, as we saw, Marco needed a few more days. 604 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,400 So the doctor is under pressure. He's medically responsible, 605 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,040 he's in charge of the processes. 606 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,320 Ultimately we have to decide together with the manager 607 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,320 whether to take the risk for a specific match, 608 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,920 and maybe to go beyond the limit. It's a fine line. 609 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,360 This challenge will always exist in top-level sport. 610 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:34,080 I know how he works. He knows how I react to various situations or injuries, 611 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,600 and to what he does or doesn't say. 612 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,400 TEAM CAPTAIN So that's all well-established. 613 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:43,320 But I hope there isn't much more to come. 614 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:52,160 Good. I can't see anything now. No fluid. 615 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,600 Luckily the ultrasound picture showed normal findings. 616 00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,360 Normal muscle structures, no scar tissue, 617 00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:04,320 and no fluid. The visual findings are one part, 618 00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,640 but functionality is more of a deciding factor. 619 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:12,560 What has he achieved in rehab? The rehab department will verify that. 620 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,200 The rehab coach was there, too. Yes, and then... 621 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,720 we all confer and give the go-ahead. 622 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:21,480 Okay, I'm satisfied. 623 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,920 All clear, then? - You've got the all-clear. But please, 624 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,960 as you usually do, keep an eye on it. 625 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:33,560 But with all hard shots... I'll discuss it with the manager. 626 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:38,120 All shots and diagonal passes across the whole pitch... 627 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,920 You should be a bit more careful with that, 628 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:48,160 but you can take part in training and do a full session tomorrow. 629 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,200 Okay? - Yes. Thanks. 630 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,880 I feel fantastic. It's always great after an injury, 631 00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:58,840 whether it's a muscle injury or a different kind of injury, 632 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:03,560 when the doctor says everything is okay and you're cleared for training. 633 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,480 Go for it. Ciao. 634 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,960 We know that ultimately we can only produce a real top performance 635 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,240 SPORTING DIRECTOR when Marco is also on the pitch. 636 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,680 That makes him so valuable for us. We hope that he 637 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,960 stays injury-free. I'm sure he'll be back in peak condition soon. 638 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,080 He makes the others better too. They like playing with him. 639 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,320 He gives them confidence when he's on the pitch. 640 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:28,880 We need that. 641 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,160 In 1992 we were runners-up in the league. 642 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,960 No one saw us as contenders. I didn't see us as contenders either. 643 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,120 I remember talking to a well-known manager, 644 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,240 who I was dealing with, and he said to me, 645 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:59,880 "German champions from the Ruhrgebiet? That will not be possible." 646 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,680 Michael Meier did a good job in the initial phase. 647 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,800 He made some good transfers. 648 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,760 But I think the most important staff decision 649 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,960 that Michael Meier and Gerd Niebaum made was in the manager sector, 650 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,920 namely the signing of Ottmar Hitzfeld. 651 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,360 I was very taken aback by the mentality in the Ruhrgebiet. 652 00:53:25,720 --> 00:53:28,320 I came from Zurich, where I lived, 653 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,080 and people there aren't as open, as direct. 654 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:35,120 People there don't say, "You look awful today, what's wrong with you?" 655 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,800 I remember in the first few days, there was an old lady at a newspaper stand, 656 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,200 and she said, "Aren't you our manager"? 657 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:47,800 She said "our" manager. There you see how the public 658 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,000 identifies with Borussia Dortmund. 659 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,720 And I felt at home straight away. 660 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,400 Dr. Niebaum had an ambitious vision. 661 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,760 He said, "We are a sleeping giant, 662 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:07,000 and we can achieve much more than in the last few years. 663 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:11,880 We just have to invest. We have to become Number 1 in Germany." 664 00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:14,200 He said that back then. 665 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:19,360 It was very bold. And he was totally convinced we could succeed. 666 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,280 Dortmund risked it. Meier and Niebaum 667 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,880 first of all signed Stefan Reuter, 668 00:54:30,240 --> 00:54:33,400 then later they also signed Matthias Sammer, 669 00:54:34,720 --> 00:54:37,320 they bought Andreas Möller, they bought Jürgen Kohler... 670 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,640 This method, where you say, "We'll attack now", 671 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,040 with means that Bayern Munich also use, 672 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,040 certainly went some way towards 673 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:51,440 redressing the balance of power in the Bundesliga somewhat. 674 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:56,680 MATCHDAY 34, 1994/95 675 00:54:57,720 --> 00:55:01,520 In '94/95, in the first half of the season, 676 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,880 we'd taken a big lead in the table and then 677 00:55:05,240 --> 00:55:07,520 in the second half we had bad luck with injuries. 678 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:12,080 We were favorites and our lead evaporated. 679 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,040 And we didn't have any strikers left. 680 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,240 Luckily we had good, young players like Lars Ricken. 681 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:32,400 They then had to pull the chestnuts out of the fire. 682 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:37,280 We beat Hamburg on the final matchday. 683 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,360 We'd succeeded, but it wasn't in our hands. 684 00:55:41,720 --> 00:55:43,720 How were Bremen doing in Munich? 685 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,400 Everyone had one ear to their radio. 686 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:55,000 Then a whole stand leapt up, because Bayern had scored 687 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,360 against our rivals, Bremen, and it spread like wildfire. 688 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:10,160 When the final whistle blew, it was unbelievable. 689 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,200 I've seldom had an explosion like that in my brain. An adrenaline rush. 690 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,040 The way you jump up and run on to the pitch, 691 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,680 with 50,000 people storming the pitch. 692 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,200 Those were scenes of unparalleled rapture. 693 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:31,520 It took 32 years for Borussia Dortmund to win the trophy again. 694 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:36,760 There were so many people crying that afternoon in the Westfalen Stadium, 695 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,160 I don't think I've ever seen so many in all my life. 696 00:56:47,720 --> 00:56:52,240 I've never experienced it since. The joy of the fans, 697 00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,960 the victory parade through the city... 698 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,600 I think there were 500,000 people out on the streets. 699 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,560 It was unimaginable. I've never experienced anything like it. 700 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,640 Not even at Bayern Munich. 701 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,920 When Bayern become champions, then okay, they're the champions. 702 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:12,880 But there's never that euphoria. Dortmund is unique. 703 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:31,440 Then we went on a big parade on a truck through Dortmund, around Borsigplatz. 704 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,400 And when you looked in people's faces from the truck, 705 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:40,760 those were moments of joy that you yourself were also feeling. 706 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,400 It was an incredible liberation. And the fact that the people 707 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,200 who were lining the route in Dortmund 708 00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:54,200 suddenly said "thank you"... 709 00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:55,400 That... 710 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,960 Yes, you get all emotional. 711 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:12,000 It was a golden age. That was the period when 712 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:16,800 Dortmund won the greatest title that it's ever won in the club's history. 713 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:24,560 CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FINAL 1997 714 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,640 We were very focused on the way to Munich, 715 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:32,680 but we were also shadowed by dark clouds in the media, 716 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:37,400 who were spreading something about Borussia Dortmund like a bad omen, 717 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,000 saying this would be a journey... 718 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,640 to the team's own funeral. 719 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:51,480 We had a difficult team, and some players with airs and graces, 720 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:56,080 like Paulo Sousa, who always wanted a special role. 721 00:58:56,440 --> 00:59:00,560 Warming up, he would often run laps in the opposite direction. 722 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,240 The first two or three laps, on principle. 723 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:09,600 I tolerated a lot, whatever I could account for, 724 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,720 but perhaps I should have clamped down more. 725 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:20,760 He came to my 40th birthday party, And I said to him, 726 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,360 "Glad you came. And Ottmar, unfortunately 727 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:28,040 some of your gray hair is because of me. I'm sorry." 728 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,640 He was always a gentleman, even then. But he did also say 729 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:46,240 words to the effect, "Sure, it wasn't always easy. But we fought to win." 730 00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:48,560 Chappi! 731 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:56,040 It was a difficult relationship. But I knew Matthias was crucial for the team. 732 00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:00,080 He has a good character and he's obssessed. 733 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:04,160 And I had to help him a little to be rational. 734 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,600 Dortmund were clearly the underdogs. 735 01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:22,040 Juventus were considered the crème de la crème of European football, 736 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,600 with a star-studded team. 737 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,760 But from the start of the match, Borussia Dortmund found their rhythm 738 01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,280 and were suddenly in full flow. 739 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,480 We went 2-0 up through Kalle Riedle. 740 01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,160 Then Del Piero pulled it back to 2-1, 741 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,080 and I knew it would be tight. 742 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,040 It was clear Juve would put us under pressure. 743 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,120 I knew I had to do something. 744 01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:51,480 As I was warming up, I kept looking over to Hitzfeld thinking, 745 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:53,240 "When will you bring me on?" 746 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:58,120 I was almost annoyed that no one had seen how far Peruzzi 747 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,120 went off his line all the time. 748 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,760 I was thinking, that when I went on, 749 01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,320 wherever I was, I'd shoot for goal. 750 01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:11,800 Okay, for it to have happened like that, I couldn't have anticipated that. 751 01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,360 Möller, Ricken... Ricken. 752 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,160 Chip it now... Yes! 753 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,400 Five seconds on the pitch! Five seconds! 754 01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:24,960 Lars Ricken! 755 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:40,440 CHAMPIONS LEAGUE WINNERS 1997 756 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:48,040 I was aware of the situation at Borussia Dortmund from meetings with the board. 757 01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:53,040 Michael Meier was very reserved, but the vice-president, Ernst Breer, 758 01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:57,400 he said, "Ottmar, we're not doing that great. 759 01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:01,760 We're going to have to aim lower 760 01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:05,680 and turn the clock back, or else we face ruin." 761 01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:11,600 I already knew the financial situation here was extremely precarious. 762 01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:18,320 The problem with top-level staff and international players 763 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:23,000 is that they don't come cheap. It costs a lot of money. 764 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:27,400 The rights and wrongs are for others to decide. I wouldn't have done it. 765 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:32,920 I thought it would be fatal to operate so close to the edge of the abyss. 766 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,080 And I now know what came of it as a result, 767 01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:41,120 because in 2004 I saw it in black and white, 768 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,960 spelling out the situation. 769 01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:49,320 I'm a manager, and as a manager I was happy 770 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,080 that I got the best players, 771 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,280 and I can't reproach the president 772 01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,800 for signing the best Italian and German players. 773 01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,960 I benefitted from it, even if the club suffered because of it, 774 01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,240 for overextending itself financially. 775 01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,760 While I was a manager, I could never imagine 776 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:13,920 that Borussia Dortmund could become insolvent. 777 01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:20,760 MATCHDAY 24 778 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:28,920 Borussia Dortmund is in my heart and will never go away, 779 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:33,080 because I'm a person who is grateful for what he has received. 780 01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,440 When Borussia Dortmund play, I suffer with them. 781 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,120 I follow them more intensely than I do anyone else. 782 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:44,600 Whether they'll become German champions now is also in the balance, 783 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,760 having led by nine points. It's a very difficult situation for the team. 784 01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:52,400 But you have to take a 9-point lead in the first place 785 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,800 and play a great season. If you had said a year ago 786 01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:59,640 that Dortmund would be in first place for a long time, 787 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:03,320 everyone would have been pleased. You have to acknowledge that. 788 01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:08,120 And the football that Lucien Favre has them play is spectacular. 789 01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,800 He puts his faith in young players, he favors fast attacks, 790 01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,840 quick counterattacks, and he thrills the fans in the stadium. 791 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:22,520 To this day, I'm still dressed in black and yellow. 792 01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:33,160 The air up here is very thin and it doesn't forgive 793 01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,480 any negligence, any negligence at all. 794 01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,520 I said that I am not sure 795 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,920 whether Hakimi or Zagadou know, if little Sancho knows 796 01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:50,280 that the one-on-one duels, where Dortmund haven't looked good lately, 797 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,880 will be the deciding factor today. I don't just mean up front, 798 01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,920 but at the back as well. You have to be up for it. 799 01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,680 The natural reaction to that was, 800 01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:04,480 "Is that allowed? He's an external consultant for Dortmund!" 801 01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:08,960 And we Germans tend to like strict lines. 802 01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:13,840 So, either I'm a pundit or I'm a club staff member. 803 01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:18,400 If you have two roles, many people have a problem with that. 804 01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,080 I think it's good that he dared to do it. 805 01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:37,400 I misjudged the ball's trajectory. I thought I'd get it, but I lost it. 806 01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:41,640 He won the ball, crossed it in, goal. That was it. 807 01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:49,080 I think that as a team in general, 808 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,760 we weren't 100 % aware of what lay ahead of us, 809 01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,960 that for Augsburg it was a battle for survival, 810 01:05:56,320 --> 01:06:00,760 and they were using the right tactics. To borrow an analogy from rowing, 811 01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,600 the eight, or the eleven, rowed with a stroke rate 50, 812 01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,200 while we doing 47 or 48. 813 01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:12,480 We only raised our stroke rate when we realized it was really tight. 814 01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,680 When Augsburg play Dortmund, they give everything. 815 01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,880 You see eleven dogs of war fighting for every ball, 816 01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,120 and against Augsburg it was a real battle. 817 01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:32,480 We made mistakes. So did I. We gifted them the goals. 818 01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:36,840 They were waiting for stray passes from us, so they could counter. 819 01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:40,400 Their tactics worked better than ours. 820 01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:48,800 The interesting thing is that the very players who this season 821 01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:53,720 impressed with such apparent freshness and carefreeness, 822 01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:58,840 like Hakimi or Zagadou, who has made a great improvement this year, 823 01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:03,040 that they suddenly started making bad mistakes. 824 01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:06,360 The kinds of mistake where you say, "For God's sake, 825 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:11,520 how on earth can that happen in an important Bundesliga match?" 826 01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:17,000 But it showed, despite all their talent, just how young they are. 827 01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,280 There was a lack of aggressiveness in the duels. 828 01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:26,600 It wasn't only the two mistakes, 829 01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,440 it was the whole thing. If you watch the Augsburg match, 830 01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:32,560 we didn't have that mentality... 831 01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:38,000 Where you fight for every ball, go for the second ball, be aggressive, press. 832 01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:43,120 And yet these are the same players. What changed was the mentality. 833 01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,920 That was an unnecessary defeat, 834 01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,720 because overall we dominated the match like never before. 835 01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:08,360 We had 75 % of possession. 836 01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,120 We had our scoring opportunities, 837 01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,040 and unfortunately we didn't take those chances. 838 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,880 And unfortunately we conceded unnecessary goals, 839 01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,920 because we made unbelievable mistakes. 840 01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:26,480 We created a lot of scoring opportunities in the last few matches, 841 01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:30,160 but didn't convert them. We have to be more clinical in front of goal, 842 01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:33,920 and score first, because then the games will be easier for us. 843 01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:39,360 Lack of clinical finishing? I think Kobel made some great saves today. 844 01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:43,760 But it just wasn't enough for a team at the top of the Bundesliga. 845 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:46,360 Roman was right in saying 846 01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:52,040 that it was unworthy of the team at the top of the table. It can't happen again. 847 01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:56,400 To be honest, I don't see it that negatively, because... 848 01:08:56,760 --> 01:09:02,480 You have to recognize that we dominated the match. We had more possession. 849 01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,320 Before the program we were wondering 850 01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:10,280 if all the players were aware of what awaited them here. 851 01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:14,640 Hakimi didn't know what he was in for. Sancho, Zagadou... 852 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,840 It's not that Dortmund had no desire. But one team fought for survival, 853 01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,640 and the other would have liked to win the match. 854 01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:24,840 One thing is clear. If you don't identify the causes, 855 01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,120 in the end you'll wonder why you're a goal or a point short 856 01:09:28,480 --> 01:09:32,040 of the title or of being champions. That's the big difference. 857 01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:36,040 It's open to discussion if Matthias, with his association with us, 858 01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:39,520 can really say that. I didn't find it too bad, 859 01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,080 because he didn't insult anyone personally. 860 01:09:42,440 --> 01:09:45,160 And he only expressed what we all saw. 861 01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,560 And I think that during the match 862 01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:53,480 he was very emotionally involved and that he blurted it all out. 863 01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:57,840 It's also enthralling for the Eurosport audience to witness that. 864 01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,160 But what he said was factually quite right. 865 01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:05,080 Once again, many, many young players playing. 866 01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:07,280 Zagadou is 19... 867 01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,680 You can't blame him for that. 868 01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:15,160 But Hakimi too went in a bit... Akanji hurls himself in... 869 01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,600 I'm only saying that maybe 0.1 % was lacking, 870 01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,720 but sometimes that's the difference. That's how it is. 871 01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,160 Matthias often causes a stir 872 01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:28,280 just because of his personality. 873 01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:32,760 I think it's prudent for us to take it in a relaxed and objective way. 874 01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:34,840 Because at that moment, 875 01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:39,040 I see him in the role of a TV pundit and by extension as a journalist, 876 01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:41,600 where he has to say what he sees. 877 01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:47,320 And in this case, I agree with many of the points that he made. 878 01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:53,360 What's ugly is that it gets so blown out of proportion in the media 879 01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:57,160 that you're no longer discussing the content, but only 880 01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,120 whether he can say that, 881 01:10:59,480 --> 01:11:03,040 and whether it conflicts with his links to Borussia Dortmund. 882 01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:08,080 That's too highly charged for me. It almost prevents objective discussion. 883 01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:14,680 The content of my observations before the match 884 01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:18,080 EXTERNAL CONSULTANT consisted solely in the statement 885 01:11:18,440 --> 01:11:22,800 that I wasn't sure if the young Borussia Dortmund players in particular 886 01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:27,200 knew what was awaiting them, because the result depended on it, 887 01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,280 and possibly the championship. 888 01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:50,760 EPISODE THREE FROM 08.30.2019 ON PRIME VIDEO 889 01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:13,400 Afterwards, he plays here. 890 01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:25,480 No balls, man! We're playing like little children!