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>>DAVID WILCOCK: Welcome
to "Cosmic Disclosure."

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I'm your host, David Wilcock.

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And we're here with
Corey Goode, an insider

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who has a truly remarkablebreadth of information

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in a variety of highly
classified projects

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at the cosmic top
secret level and above.

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That's 35 levels above thesecrecy of the president

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of the United States.

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We've been talking
about intuitive training

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and how the programs
that Corey was

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a part of and other insiders whoI've spoken to were a part of,

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train you to become
more psychic,

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to have greater powers
and capabilities.

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And all of this
ultimately builds up

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to the rainbow body, a
very interesting subject

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from Tibetan Buddhist
meditative practice.

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So Corey, welcome
back to the show.

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>>COREY GOODE: Thank you.

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>>DAVID: So the
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seems to be the core ofwhere all this discussion is

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ultimately taking us.

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I've written about
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For those who don't alreadyknow, in case they're

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new to this, the rainbow
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of transmutation of the physicalbody at the time of death.

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And the core of
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to be to stay in a continualstate of meditation

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and have every thought
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Obviously, what you describedin the previous episode

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is very disturbing stuff.

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The kind of training
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of these guys in the program sawthemselves as like a Sith Lord?

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>>GOODE: Yeah.

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They see themselves as
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of the Force, Sith Lords.

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Very much of that mythos is apart of their belief system.

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>>DAVID: Without
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were they using the
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you can do to other
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to enhance thesecapabilities that they had?

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>>GOODE: Yes.

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>>DAVID: So you were describingpeople who could actually

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throw a ball of energy outof their hand and dent metal

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with it?

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>>GOODE: Right.

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>>DAVID: Is this just likea little ding on the metal?

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What are we talking about?

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>>GOODE: No.

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We're talking
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pushing in metal doors.

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>>DAVID: Wow.

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>>GOODE: If they were todo that to a human being,

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the human being
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>>DAVID: When I wastalking to Daniel before,

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he was describing two types ofpsychic, "teeps" and "teeks."

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"Teep" is TP or telepath.

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"Teek" is TK or telekinetic.

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Did they ever break it down
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that you were involved in?

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>>GOODE: People that hadtelekinetic abilities were

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moved into another program.

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>>DAVID: Daniel was told thatTKs were 1 out of 1,000 people.

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That they're a lot more
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could be trained just likea telepath could be trained.

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So did you experience
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that telekinetics could betrained to be more telekinetic?

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>>GOODE: Any of theseabilities can be enhanced.

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They can be enhanced
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They also give people chemicalinjections that somehow

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enhance these abilities.

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So yes, all of theseabilities can be enhanced.

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>>DAVID: Daniel also saidto me that they gave people

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a scale of psy ability.

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And you had the number-- you hadthe letter P and then a number.

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So a P1 would be-- I guess aP0 is like a typical person who

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has no real psychic
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who we would actually
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would still only be a P4.

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the people that got
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could get all the way
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which if you're a
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they would use
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able to pinch the carotidartery in somebody's neck

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and kill them by a blood
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Were you aware of
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being used for assassinationsand that kind of thing?

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Is that part of what
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>>GOODE: Yeah, they wereusing some of the abilities

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to train these youngpeople to be able to kill

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with telekinetic abilities.

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Now, this person, did he startthis training as an adult

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>>DAVID: Yeah.

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He was working at
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They had a peculiar
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where they would just havesomebody seemingly start up

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What do you think about ESP?

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What do you think
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And then if you
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and you say that you've hadyour experiences and things

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like this, then they say,well as it turns out,

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there's a program.

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And you can get paid extra.

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And it won't affect
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And you're going to be ablelearn a whole lot of really

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What do you think?

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You want to try it out?

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That's how they'd recruit you.

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>>GOODE: Well, the
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that one of the reasons theycreated the MILAB program is

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that children between
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and before they hit puberty,if they get these kids,

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especially-- they
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have these abilities
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and start these training
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they get much, much, muchmore enhanced abilities

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than when they try
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If you would take a
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talking about that's anadult that has been trained

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and is on this P scale,
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>>DAVID: I believe Daniel saidhe only ever got up to P7,

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and he was a telepath.

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They also said
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is that TPs and
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and yang between the consciousand the subconscious.

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is what they seemed
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>>GOODE: Well, you have both,but the other one's very weak.

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During a lot of the IE
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would happen with things
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and across the room when
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focused on-- especially whenthey were being enhanced

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technologically
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training and intuitive
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>>DAVID: One of things thatDanny was really impressed by

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was the sci-fi show "Babylon 5."

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And the author, J.
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featured this P
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One of the things
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was that some of the
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But that obviously is not true.

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>>GOODE: Yeah.

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of-- when you are
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you haven't formed all
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of what is possible,
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And therefore,
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is more malleable,
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is the trigger to
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to be able to do a lot morethings than someone that

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and has an established
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>>DAVID: Why do you think theserainbow body practices seem

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to require so much morework than them giving you

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injections and technological
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>>GOODE: It's always a shortcut.

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is a very long and
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The Blue Avians gave
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to become more loving, forgivingof ourselves and others,

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to stop the wheel ofkarma, and to focus daily

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on becoming more
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and to raise our consciousness,and to raise our vibrations.

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And that sounds real kindof hippie, kind of flowery,

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kind of easy to do.

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But I assure you that isan extremely difficult path

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When you can walk a veryshort and jagged negative path

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and get some very strongand interesting abilities,

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that is going to seem like amore interesting and doable

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>>DAVID: Why do youthink in Hollywood movies

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that it's always the
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have to just fight them basedon weapons and true grit

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>>GOODE: Well because in movies,who controls who makes movies?

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They want to promote thatgoing the path of hate

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That's the way to get rich.

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>>DAVID: Tibetans
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and I think people
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There were some very negativepractitioners in Tibet

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that are described
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like "The Teachings of theMasters of the Far East."

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One of the things it
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is some of these
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they would take a
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and charge it up with anincredible amount of hatred.

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And then apparently, if they dothat enough, the person would

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then want to pick up the knifeand actually kill themselves

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with it, stab
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of black magic to practicebecause almost invariably,

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>>GOODE: These are kindof universal natural laws

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If you're going to use
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then the laws of karma are goingto always catch up with you.

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It seems like we
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going to mention any namesof politicians-- these really

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evil, horrible people thatseem to always get away

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with everything, and go
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>>DAVID: But we
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think they're really
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>>GOODE: No.

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Even us that are tryingto walk the positive path,

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if we're not being challengedwith the yin and the yang,

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if we're not being challenged
by the dark, the more

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sinister side of the
coin, we're not really

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ever going to grow spiritually.

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We grow through adversity.

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That makes a lot of peopleangry when you say that.

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They say, you know what?

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Leave me alone.

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Leave me at peace.

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And I will sit in the lotusposition, and I will meditate,

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and I will grow.

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And I will ascend a lot quickerthan if you have me in a world

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to where all these negativethings are happening to me.

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And that is not the way
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>>DAVID: Veryinterestingly, the Tibetans

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say that the worst
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is to just sit, andmeditate, and be blissed out

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all the time.

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They warn that you
go into what they

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call the "Realm of
Conceptionless Gods,"

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and that it's a very
dangerous thing.

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One of the funny
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that if you are in asituation of extreme fear--

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fear for your life,
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is chasing you when you'rerunning-- that in that moment

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where you're running from thedogs, that's the closest you

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can get, in many ways,
to cosmic consciousness,

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to having a full breakingdown of the veil of who

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and what you really are.

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>>GOODE: Well, you're
never more in the moment

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and feel more alive than
when you're in danger.

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>>DAVID: Do you think thatthat's the basis of why they

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would put you in these
horrible simulations,

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was to try to evoke this
yearning of the soul

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to the higher self or toGod to preserve your life,

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to preserve--

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>>GOODE: Yeah, it's to have youfocus on being in the moment,

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to focus on
preservation of life,

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and to draw on the
inner energy and power

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that you have through
your consciousness that

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is built in to help youwith preservation of life.

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>>DAVID: What do you think isgoing on in these documented

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cases?

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You don't hear about
them as much anymore,

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but it was prevalent
in the '70s.

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Like a mother whose childis trapped under a car,

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and she literally lifts thewhole car off the child.

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What do you think ishappening in a case like that?

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>>GOODE: Well, a lot of itpeople say is adrenaline.

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And they've done teststhat prove that adrenaline

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has something to do with it.

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But a lot of it is what I--they say mind over matter,

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but I say mind over
what's the matter.

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It's consciousness.

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And our consciousness
is extremely powerful.

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And more than likely
what's happening

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is our consciousness
in that moment,

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in that moment of
the now, is changing

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the physics or the matteraround you, changing

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the reality to where
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the outcome of the situation.

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>>DAVID: My space
program insider, Jacob,

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told me that those
people who documented

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those experiences were
often secretly abducted

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and then blank slated
and tested in secret.

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And that what they foundwas that these people had

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some kind of DNA
energetic overload,

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and it actually
damaged their DNA.

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And many of them would
die within a few years

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of doing something
like that because it

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seems to have messed up theirbiological mechanism somehow.

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>>GOODE: They spent allof their life force energy

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in one kind of blast.

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>>DAVID: So you would agree thatthat might be damaging to us

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at this level if we try to jamthat much voltage through all

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at once?

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>>GOODE: If we're
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evolved enough to be
able to handle it, yeah.

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>>DAVID: So is there away to positively generate

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that kind of
connection so that we

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can handle the voltage increasewithout it breaking us?

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>>GOODE: Well, yes.

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And we're having to do thatnow with the-- our solar system

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is entering into a highlycharged energetic part

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of the galaxy.

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And we're experiencing
high energy right now

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that is affecting the psycheof people all around us.

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It's obvious.

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>>DAVID: Well, it
seems like people

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are going through more stressin less time than ever before.

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Life is getting
increasingly difficult.

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>>GOODE: And time seems to becompressing and speeding up.

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And the people that are workingon becoming more service

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to others, raising theirvibrations and consciousness,

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opening their minds up tothis type of information,

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are going to be far moreprepared and able for this type

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of transition than thosewho are more service to self

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and exploiting other people.

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>>DAVID: The Germans,
you said, went to Tibet

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and grabbed scrolls
and people that

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knew how to read them,
which you said actually

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had blueprints to make
the manas, correct?

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>>GOODE: Mm-hmm.

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>>DAVID: So if they'reencountering these cultures

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where every thought issupposed to be a loving thought

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and that gives you magic
powers, how in the heck

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do they get a black magicspiritual philosophy out

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of this?

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I think some people mighthave trouble understanding how

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that could have happened.

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>>GOODE: Well, they broughttheir ideas and their beliefs

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and overlaid them onto
wherever they went.

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They constantly,
they corrupted what

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were even positive symbols,positive teachings and ideas,

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and twisted them and turnedthem into negative ideas,

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as we well know from the
history that we know.

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>>DAVID: So what do you think aCabal type of person's reaction

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is going to be when he hearsyou say be more loving,

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be more forgiving.

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>>GOODE: They're
going to cringe.

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They want us to be alwaysanxious, always fearful,

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and always at each
other's throats.

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They want us to be dividedagainst-- religions

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against religions,
races against races.

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As long as they can keepus at each other's throats,

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we're not at their throat.

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They divide and conquer us.

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>>DAVID: Were you personallyaware of social programs that

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were intended to foster thattype of condition in humanity?

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>>GOODE: I want to be careful
because they have used--

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they've co-opted and usedreligions that are based

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on this very love principlethat I'm talking about,

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this golden ruleprinciple-- do unto others

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as you would have
them do unto you.

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They've infiltrated a
lot of these religions,

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and twisted them, and
taken control of them,

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and started to use them
in hateful ways and ways

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to divide us.

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>>DAVID: Well, it
certainly seems

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that all the major
religions have

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been contaminated to varyingdegrees in that sense.

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I guess I'm also trying to findout-- there's people out there,

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or scholars that have lookedat something like feminism

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and said, well, Gloria Steinemwas financed by the Cabal,

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and women are now gettingup to be about 40 years old

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and realizing, wow, I'vespent my whole life chasing

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the things that men want.

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Now I want to have a child.

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It's too late.

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Do you think that they aredeliberately doing things

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like this to try to drive menand women apart, since that's

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the basis of the family?

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>>GOODE: Well,
they're constantly

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socially engineering.

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And to a degree, yes.

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To one degree, women wererepressed for so long.

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But to another degree,
they take movements

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like the women
wanting to be equal,

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and anything positive theysee, they move in, infiltrate,

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and twist.

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>>DAVID: Right.

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>>GOODE: So I see
the women's movement

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to become equal with men afterall the millennia of repression

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they had as a good thing.

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But there has beeninfiltration and twisting

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that has gone on that
has hurt the cause

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and has caused schisms
in our society.

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>>DAVID: You said
before that there

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are 22 genetic programsthat we've been run with,

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or consciousness alterations,
that kind of thing.

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Some of these do appear
to be engineering us

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to be more easily controlled.

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>>GOODE: Right.

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>>DAVID: Do you have
any specific examples?

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>>GOODE: Yeah.

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These are social programs.

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These are genetic programs.

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And these are
spiritual programs.

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These spiritual
programs also include

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some of them incarnating
as in human bodies.

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They're a part of thisgrand experiment as well.

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They're very much a partof this grand experiment.

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They're just not custodianscreating and manipulating

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these experiments.

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They're very much vested
in these experiments.

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But there's very much,
very strong evidence

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that I was shown in these smartglass pads that they created

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and manipulated our genes tocreate a god gene to where

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we have a genetic and--
a very genetically

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driven need to worship,
and follow a leader,

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and to worship a higher being.

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And this was done to make us alittle bit more controllable.

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There are these 22 programs.

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They're running paralleltogether, but some of them

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step on each other.

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Some of these programs wantus to become more spiritually

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enlightened and grow, andthen some of the programs want

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to keep us down and keep
us spiritually ignorant,

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and ignorant of ourco-creative consciousness--

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>>DAVID: Why would worshippinga higher being be a bad thing?

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Most people would think
that's a good thing.

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>>GOODE: It's a good thing.

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But it's a bad thingwhen these beings step in

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as that higher being
to be worshipped.

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They come in as trickster gods.

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And not only are these ETs doingit, but for a long, long time,

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a lot of these breakawayancient Earth civilizations

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have also been
coming to the surface

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and pretending to be gods.

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>>DAVID: Well, it seems withthe rainbow body training

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that you're not reallyworshipping a divine being.

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You are becoming awareness.

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All the stuff I've
read about it,

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says you recognize the
nature of existence

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as emptiness that is
aware and that you

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become that empty awareness.

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So that seems differentthan worshiping something.

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>>GOODE: It is.

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And one of the things
that I was told

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by these higher-densitybeings is that we are all one.

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And this goes
along-- something I

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used to say when
I was a child that

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would upset my parents,who were very conservative,

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especially my mom.

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I would say, I used to beyou, you used to be me.

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I used to be Grandpa.

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Grandpa used to be me.

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And they would say, that doesn'tmake any sense scientifically.

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In time, we're existing
all at the same time.

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How could you be me,
and I used to be you?

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And I would say,
time doesn't matter.

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Only the experience matters.

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And they were just like, what?

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What?

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You know?

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And I'm like six years
old, five years old,

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and I'm saying
these weird things.

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And as it turns
out, this is what

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these higher-density
beings were saying--

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that time is an illusion.

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We are all fragmented,
but we're all one.

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>>DAVID: Why do you thinkin the "Course in Miracles,"

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which seems similar to "The Lawof One," that one of their core

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teachings would beforgiveness collapses time?

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>>GOODE: I don't know.

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When I hear
forgiveness of yourself

499
00:29:29,332 --> 00:29:33,122
and forgiveness of othersstops the wheel of karma,

500
00:29:33,249 --> 00:29:39,779
that tells me that it--
in a cycle somehow.

501
00:29:39,908 --> 00:29:46,478
And time, to us, is
seen as cyclical.

502
00:29:46,610 --> 00:29:51,310
So maybe there's
a parallel there.

503
00:29:51,441 --> 00:29:53,311
>>DAVID: We talked
about the idea

504
00:29:53,443 --> 00:29:56,973
that forgiveness collapsestime and in forgiveness

505
00:29:57,099 --> 00:29:59,449
lies the stopping of
the wheel of karma,

506
00:29:59,580 --> 00:30:01,020
are the same statement.

507
00:30:01,147 --> 00:30:02,017
>>GOODE: Oh.

508
00:30:02,148 --> 00:30:03,978
>>DAVID: That time is karma.

509
00:30:04,106 --> 00:30:06,326
That the experience of
duration, the experience

510
00:30:06,456 --> 00:30:12,546
of being in this universe, isin and of itself a participation

511
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,160
in a fragmented soul.

512
00:30:16,292 --> 00:30:20,212
And the more that you canforgive those around you,

513
00:30:20,340 --> 00:30:22,860
the more that your soul isreintegrating, hence stopping

514
00:30:22,995 --> 00:30:26,215
time, collapsing time,collapsing the wheel of karma.

515
00:30:26,346 --> 00:30:27,906
>>GOODE: Right.

516
00:30:28,043 --> 00:30:30,523
When you're forgiving others,you're forgiving yourself.

517
00:30:30,654 --> 00:30:35,144
And a lot of times, if
you've done something

518
00:30:35,268 --> 00:30:40,398
wrong to someone else,
the hardest thing to do

519
00:30:40,534 --> 00:30:42,584
is to forgive yourself.

520
00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:45,670
Forgiving yourself fordoing something horrible--

521
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:53,290
and trust me on this, Iknow-- is the most difficult

522
00:30:53,416 --> 00:30:54,936
of the equation.

523
00:30:55,070 --> 00:31:00,990
Forgiving others is a veryaltruistic and freeing thing

524
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,430
to do for yourself spiritually.

525
00:31:02,556 --> 00:31:08,296
When you forgive someone
else, spiritually, it's

526
00:31:08,431 --> 00:31:11,521
very freeing to you.

527
00:31:11,652 --> 00:31:17,352
But to be able to
forgive yourself,

528
00:31:17,484 --> 00:31:20,274
it's a very difficult
pill to swallow.

529
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:25,270
It's a very difficult thingto dig deeply into and shine

530
00:31:25,405 --> 00:31:26,965
a light on.

531
00:31:27,102 --> 00:31:32,462
>>DAVID: Did you encounterany information on your own

532
00:31:32,586 --> 00:31:36,016
in the program suggestingthat the rainbow body

533
00:31:36,155 --> 00:31:37,365
phenomenon is real?

534
00:31:37,504 --> 00:31:40,384
That this could happen
to a human being?

535
00:31:40,507 --> 00:31:44,077
That they could turn intosome kind of light being?

536
00:31:44,206 --> 00:31:49,296
>>GOODE: There wasinformation that I saw about

537
00:31:49,429 --> 00:31:53,259
that I didn't really pay muchattention to because it was not

538
00:31:53,389 --> 00:31:58,479
a part of what I was interestedin at the time about people

539
00:31:58,612 --> 00:32:01,662
in the East ascending.

540
00:32:01,789 --> 00:32:02,749
>>DAVID: That was in there?

541
00:32:02,877 --> 00:32:04,267
>>GOODE: That was in there.

542
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,360
But I really didn't paythat much attention to it

543
00:32:06,489 --> 00:32:08,059
at the time.

544
00:32:08,187 --> 00:32:12,317
Of course, my interests
have changed now.

545
00:32:12,452 --> 00:32:14,762
That's something I wouldpay a lot more attention to.

546
00:32:14,889 --> 00:32:20,369
But I do not remember readinganything about a rainbow body

547
00:32:20,503 --> 00:32:23,073
or seeing anything
about a rainbow body.

548
00:32:23,202 --> 00:32:25,772
>>DAVID: Did you ever encounterbeings that may be more

549
00:32:25,900 --> 00:32:31,470
like that kind of a state thanmore of a biological state?

550
00:32:31,601 --> 00:32:38,521
>>GOODE: Other than thesphere beings, I have not.

551
00:32:38,652 --> 00:32:40,742
>>DAVID: Is it possible,
though, that we

552
00:32:40,871 --> 00:32:42,871
could go through
a transformation

553
00:32:43,004 --> 00:32:46,834
at this time, where
our abilities would

554
00:32:46,965 --> 00:32:50,835
have a rather sudden and
dramatic improvement?

555
00:32:50,969 --> 00:32:54,929
>>GOODE: I believe
that once we become

556
00:32:55,060 --> 00:32:59,460
a transitionalcivilization, transitioning

557
00:32:59,586 --> 00:33:04,196
into fourth density,
depending on each of us,

558
00:33:04,330 --> 00:33:08,940
where we are in our walk,we will begin to waken.

559
00:33:09,074 --> 00:33:13,304
Abilities will begin
to awaken in us.

560
00:33:13,426 --> 00:33:19,036
And those who are more advancedwill have higher abilities.

561
00:33:19,171 --> 00:33:20,781
Those who are
lower advanced will

562
00:33:20,911 --> 00:33:29,661
witness those with higherability, more advanced people,

563
00:33:29,790 --> 00:33:31,440
develop higher abilities.

564
00:33:31,574 --> 00:33:35,714
And that will boost them becausethey'll know what's possible.

565
00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:40,059
But I haven't seen
any hard evidence

566
00:33:40,192 --> 00:33:45,282
on how that will occur, ifit will be a sudden change

567
00:33:45,414 --> 00:33:48,984
or a gradual change.

568
00:33:49,114 --> 00:33:51,864
But personally,
I feel it's going

569
00:33:51,986 --> 00:33:56,946
to depend on each individual'spersonal development

570
00:33:57,078 --> 00:33:58,428
and where they
are in their path.

571
00:33:58,558 --> 00:34:00,038
>>DAVID: Well, it's
really interesting

572
00:34:00,168 --> 00:34:03,298
that before these Tibetanmonks would actually

573
00:34:03,432 --> 00:34:06,962
reach rainbow body,
they were already

574
00:34:07,088 --> 00:34:10,608
able to do things like therunning, where they would

575
00:34:10,744 --> 00:34:15,794
run and step one foot at atime and shoot 30 feet high,

576
00:34:15,923 --> 00:34:19,803
200, 300 feet through the air.

577
00:34:19,927 --> 00:34:22,317
That's calledlung-gom-pa-- or lung-gom

578
00:34:22,451 --> 00:34:23,541
was the actual exercise.

579
00:34:23,670 --> 00:34:26,020
Lung-gom-pa is a
person who can do that.

580
00:34:26,151 --> 00:34:27,891
They'd be able to push
their hand into a rock

581
00:34:28,022 --> 00:34:30,072
and make a handprint orpush their foot into a stone

582
00:34:30,198 --> 00:34:32,368
and make a footprint.

583
00:34:32,505 --> 00:34:35,375
So this suggests that evenbefore rainbow body is

584
00:34:35,508 --> 00:34:40,468
attained, that a much granderability to control our reality

585
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,210
and to impact physical
matter is taking place.

586
00:34:44,343 --> 00:34:47,823
>>GOODE: And that's probablywhere most people will

587
00:34:47,955 --> 00:34:54,785
go before they come anywhereclose to being rainbow bodies,

588
00:34:54,918 --> 00:34:55,958
in my opinion.

589
00:34:56,094 --> 00:34:57,054
>>DAVID: All right.

590
00:34:57,182 --> 00:34:58,662
Well, that's all
the time we have

591
00:34:58,792 --> 00:35:01,582
for in this episode of "CosmicDisclosure," because you

592
00:35:01,708 --> 00:35:03,488
need to know the truth.

593
00:35:03,623 --> 00:35:06,103
We have much more
fascinating information

594
00:35:06,234 --> 00:35:08,854
coming your way next time here.

595
00:35:08,976 --> 00:35:10,626
I'm your host, David Wilcock.

596
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,810
And I thank you for watching.


