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The following is an interpretation
of events based on..

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Baniszewski v. The State of Indiana, 1966.

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All testimonies comes
from court transcripts.

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I used to love the carnival.

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Daddy worked all the fairs
selling pretzel�s...

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and candy apple.

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Always looking for something better.

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Sometimes mama would follow him...

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sometimes he even take us.

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It was always a new adventure...

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with a whole new family,
every time.

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I figured Jennie and me, were...

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the luckiest girls in the world.
with a life like that.

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My favorite was the merry-go-round...

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Maybe I was a little
old for it, but...

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all those other rides
they scared me.

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The merry-go-round, just goes
round and round, and up and down.

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It don't go anywhere,
but I always felt save.

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That's me on the left.

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Sylvia.

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And that's my story.

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I'm a Prostitute and proud of it.

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Would you please state your name.

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Lester Likens.

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Are you married to Betty Likens?

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Yes.

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Did you and your wife ever separate?

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Yes.

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What period of time did that occur?

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The last week in June 1965.

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She was at Euclid street,
and I was in Lebanon, Indiana.

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Where were the children?

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Jennie Faye and Silvia Marie
was with her.

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Do you think,
we'll make new friends?

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Sure we will.

36
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Well, maybe there'll be
some cute boys this time.

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They're supposed to be cute.

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Come on girls, you don't
wanna be late now for church.

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Hey!

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Daddy?

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- Hey, Jennie.
- What're you doing here?

42
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Well, I missed you girls.

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Hi Betty, can I talk
to for a minute?

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You know, I've been talking
to a Horst and he says...

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that we could maybe play our own
band at the state-fair this year.

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Then maybe we could make
enough money to go on tour.

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I told Lester, that I
can't do it anymore...

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not with the girls.

49
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Maybe my mother will take them.

50
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I can't move them up there again.

51
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They haven't even had a chance
to make friends down here yet.

52
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Betty, maybe we wouldn't fight
as much, without the kids.

53
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Mama?

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You two, go on ahead and
catch the church bus home.

55
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I've gotta settle things
with your father.

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See what love the
father has given us...

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and we are called children of god.

58
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And so we are!

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But how does a child,
come on to his father?

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How does the father,
come on to the child?

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Christ said: I am the way.
The truth, the live and love.

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Come on to the father, but by me.

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Our families,
our fathers, our mothers.

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It is only through Christ,
that we find our father.

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And it's only through Christ,
that we find each other.

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Oh, that's a beautiful dress, Hope.

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Oh, thank you, Gertrude.

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And huh... I'm feeling much
better, with my new medicine...

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and... you know anybody, that
needs ironing to be done...

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I'd appreciate the work.

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I'll do that.

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Thank you.

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What happened to your leg?

74
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That's not nice, Shirley!

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That's alright, she's used to it.

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- So what is it?
- Polio.

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Polio?

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Does that hurt?

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Our mama is a sick too.

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All right girls!

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We gotta go.

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Can they come with us?

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You wanna come? We've got
some friends coming over...

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and you can meet our older sister.

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- Let's do.
- Sure!

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Guess who got stuck with
an extra shift at work?

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- Did you get paid?
- Mm'hm.

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Got a little extra for dinner.

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Here, take the baby.

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Where'd they come from?

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What's this?

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We invited them to stay and play.

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We'll be quiet.

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All right, make sure of it.

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I really like this song.

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What's your dad do?

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He is cop, they are divorced.

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Do you miss him any?

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Nah, I just miss his money.

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- But, Paula!
- Well, it's true.

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Maybe, if he's more
regular with his support...

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Mom wouldn't be so sick...

103
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and I wouldn't have to work so hard.

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Little Kenny's got a different daddy.

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- Who's little Kenny?
- The baby.

106
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But we ain't supposed
to talk about that.

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Auh!

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Finished!

109
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Wow! You should do this for a living.

110
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Yeah, if she was old enough.

111
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You want me to do yours?

112
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Oh, no, thanks.

113
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Yeah, she's the pretty one.

114
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Yeah, she's got nice hair.

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- I'm pretty too.
- The hell you are!

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Oh, let me see that brush.

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I tell you what?
Let's go get a coke.

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My boyfriend works over at the
liquor store, get him to buy a couple.

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Sure.

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You girls behave!

121
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We're goin' to groceries.

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Tell Andy, he owes me
for little Kenny!

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And don't be waistin'
time on that bag-boy.

124
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He ain't a bag-boy, Mama!

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Sort of wasted space.

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- She don't like my boyfriend.
- Yeah, I can see that.

127
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Hey, Johnny, quit it!

128
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Sorry, Mrs. Doyle.

129
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Hey!

130
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You weren't at church today.

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Coy and I headin' over there now.

132
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Yeah, you better be.

133
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Let's get outta here.

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That's my sister Stephanie,
she's big help around the house...

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when she ain't wasting time
with her boyfriend Coy.

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Oh, God.

137
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Hey, Paula.

138
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Mama was asking you for her money.

139
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I bet she was.

140
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Who's your friend?

141
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Sylvia, but she don't talk to trash.

142
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Excuse me.

143
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That's my mama's ex boyfriend.

144
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He's only 6 years older than me.

145
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Just like her mom.

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That's him.

147
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That's my Bradley.

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He's real cute.

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We got both to be real
careful about it.

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Why?

151
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Because he's married.

152
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I'm not even shittin' you, no!

153
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Paula!

154
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Don't tell me you never
had a boyfriend.

155
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Ah, well, there was this guy
in California, but...

156
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I guess it was nothing.

157
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Well, at least you did
more than just kiss, huh?

158
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Well, aren't you just so damn pure.

159
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Oh, come on.

160
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Let's go!

161
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<i>This is Pleiku,
250 miles north of Saigon.</i>

162
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<i>The Air Force Base,
that was threatened...</i>

163
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<i>by Communist Guerillas...</i>

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Marie!

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I need you to feed little Kenny.

166
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If I don't get this ironing to
Mrs. Duke by four, I wont get a tip.

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- We're all out of milk.
- Well, then get some.

168
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They wont give us no more
credit at the store.

169
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They will, if you take the baby.

170
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Hello!

171
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Oh, hi, I'm sorry.

172
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Huh, somebody said they
saw my girls here.

173
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You got no family here in Indy?

174
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Well, not that I could leave'm with.

175
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'Cause of them or you?

176
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A little of both.

177
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Hi, Mrs. Baniszewski,
is Shirley and Marie here?

178
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Upstairs.

179
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Shut the door!

180
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Looks like, you've got kids running
in and outta here, all day long.

181
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Why don't you leave Sylvia
and Jenny, here with me?

182
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No, I... I couldn't do that.

183
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I got six kids, two more
wont make a difference.

184
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Yeah, I guess that's true.

185
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<i>20 dollars a week and
you don't have to worry.</i>

186
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You'd be helping me out too.

187
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I could talk to
my wife about it.

188
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Something to consider.

189
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Ah-ha...

190
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So, you'd never met Gertrude
Baniszewski before that day?

191
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No, Sir.

192
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But, you were willing to leave your
children, with a complete stranger?

193
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Well, like I said, huh...

194
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we got to talking and...

195
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she openly admitted, that she
would take care of the children...

196
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and treat them like
they were her own.

197
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<i>Okay! Here is 20 now...</i>

198
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and huh... you'll have the next
payment in a week, Thursday.

199
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I'll need that money.

200
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You will have it.

201
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Johnny, bring the box upstairs!

202
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Okay, sweetheart,
that's real nice.

203
00:11:57,633 --> 00:11:59,593
I sure don't want you go.

204
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The circuit will be down and
done, at the end of September.

205
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That's only 2 months.

206
00:12:04,098 --> 00:12:07,476
And I promise, I will be back,
and get you girls then.

207
00:12:07,726 --> 00:12:11,188
Okay, kids.
Goodbye, Jenny, Cookie.

208
00:12:11,647 --> 00:12:13,440
- You be good!
- Okay.

209
00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,317
Bye-bye.

210
00:12:16,402 --> 00:12:17,778
Bye.

211
00:12:17,778 --> 00:12:19,822
Bye, girls.

212
00:12:20,864 --> 00:12:23,325
You girls make sure you get
everything you need.

213
00:12:23,325 --> 00:12:24,910
Thank you.

214
00:12:25,911 --> 00:12:27,413
Well, come on!

215
00:12:27,413 --> 00:12:29,415
We'll help you unpack.

216
00:12:34,294 --> 00:12:36,296
Wait, I'll help you.

217
00:12:55,983 --> 00:12:57,735
Nothing to be nervous about.

218
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Everyone's really nice here.
I promise.

219
00:13:00,446 --> 00:13:03,991
Hey, Paula, get your cherry
popped, this summer?

220
00:13:03,991 --> 00:13:06,827
You sure didn't, Teddy,
not with a face like that.

221
00:13:06,827 --> 00:13:08,704
Hey, come on Paula,
you know he's just playing.

222
00:13:08,704 --> 00:13:11,498
So, why don't you
play with yourselves?

223
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Coy is okay, but Teddy is
a goddamn delinquent.

224
00:13:14,126 --> 00:13:15,294
Paula!

225
00:13:15,294 --> 00:13:18,255
Those guys, they're always
messing with somebody.

226
00:13:18,255 --> 00:13:20,299
I'm sure, she will be okay.

227
00:13:20,299 --> 00:13:24,136
- You live with Paula and them?
- Yeah, for a bid, I guess.

228
00:13:24,136 --> 00:13:27,556
Yeah, I saw you the other day.

229
00:13:27,848 --> 00:13:30,017
I live right around the corner,
I'm Ricky Hobbs.

230
00:13:30,017 --> 00:13:31,352
Sylvia.

231
00:13:31,352 --> 00:13:33,354
Hey, there's a football game
this weekend...

232
00:13:33,354 --> 00:13:35,272
if you'd be interested in that at all.

233
00:13:35,272 --> 00:13:37,274
Oh, I don't like that much football.

234
00:13:37,274 --> 00:13:39,276
Sylvia, come on!

235
00:13:39,735 --> 00:13:41,528
Good bye!

236
00:13:45,324 --> 00:13:46,867
It's me!

237
00:13:46,867 --> 00:13:49,078
Hope, you brought my money.

238
00:13:49,078 --> 00:13:51,663
Nice to see you too.

239
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Came by to see my baby.

240
00:14:02,299 --> 00:14:03,717
Hi!

241
00:14:03,717 --> 00:14:05,427
Hey!

242
00:14:06,762 --> 00:14:08,430
Leave him!

243
00:14:08,430 --> 00:14:12,810
Well, I got my call-up papers.
I have to go to boot-camp soon.

244
00:14:15,521 --> 00:14:17,564
Put him back in.

245
00:14:19,817 --> 00:14:23,112
It took me all day to quiet him.

246
00:14:24,446 --> 00:14:27,366
- Not in front of the baby!
- Why? He don't care.

247
00:14:27,366 --> 00:14:29,326
I do!

248
00:14:32,329 --> 00:14:35,040
Listen, I'll be getting
a paycheck.

249
00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,501
So, you'll be getting
payments regularly.

250
00:14:39,837 --> 00:14:42,631
Who's gonna take care of you?

251
00:14:44,299 --> 00:14:47,136
Well, actually I was wondering...

252
00:14:47,136 --> 00:14:49,471
if I could borrow a few dollars...

253
00:14:49,471 --> 00:14:53,267
so I could visit my brother
in Lebanon, before I leave.

254
00:14:55,853 --> 00:14:58,981
If I had the money,
I'd give it to you.

255
00:14:58,981 --> 00:15:00,816
I saw your new boarders.

256
00:15:00,816 --> 00:15:02,693
Don't tell me, you're
doing that for charity.

257
00:15:02,693 --> 00:15:04,987
I had to take them in,
because of you.

258
00:15:04,987 --> 00:15:06,864
I ain't paying for
another man's kids.

259
00:15:06,864 --> 00:15:08,824
You ain't paying for no...

260
00:15:13,245 --> 00:15:15,497
I'm sorry, Gertie.

261
00:15:15,873 --> 00:15:17,875
I'm sorry.

262
00:15:25,841 --> 00:15:28,469
So, how was the
first day at school?

263
00:15:28,469 --> 00:15:31,096
Well, I made
a couple friends.

264
00:15:31,096 --> 00:15:34,850
See, we're not such bad people,
here on the Southside.

265
00:15:34,850 --> 00:15:37,853
Can you, pick up the kids
and bring'm home?

266
00:15:37,853 --> 00:15:39,480
There's something I have
to take care of.

267
00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:40,731
Yeah, is everything alright?

268
00:15:40,731 --> 00:15:43,525
Just tell mama, I picked up
an extra shift at work.

269
00:15:43,525 --> 00:15:45,319
Sure.

270
00:15:46,445 --> 00:15:49,823
You know, Paula is looking more
and more like you everyday.

271
00:15:50,699 --> 00:15:52,785
Lucky girl.

272
00:15:54,119 --> 00:15:56,622
Should watch her, though.

273
00:15:56,955 --> 00:15:59,875
She's been hanging out
with Bradley again.

274
00:16:00,668 --> 00:16:03,087
I hate to think, what'll happen.

275
00:16:03,087 --> 00:16:05,839
His wife's got a bad temper.

276
00:16:13,847 --> 00:16:16,767
You think, that I can
get that money?

277
00:16:21,271 --> 00:16:24,274
<i>There's a 20 in the top drawer.</i>

278
00:16:44,253 --> 00:16:46,422
Where do you live Mrs. Doyle?

279
00:16:46,422 --> 00:16:48,590
3848 East New York.

280
00:16:48,590 --> 00:16:50,968
You can almost reach out of
your dining room window...

281
00:16:50,968 --> 00:16:53,012
and touch Baniszewski's
kitchen, can't you?

282
00:16:53,012 --> 00:16:54,930
It's not that close.

283
00:16:54,930 --> 00:16:56,974
Because of the experience,
that you saw...

284
00:16:56,974 --> 00:16:59,268
Mrs. Baniszewski having there.

285
00:16:59,268 --> 00:17:02,479
Did you develop any bias, or
prejudice against her?

286
00:17:02,938 --> 00:17:05,315
No, I felt sorry for the lady.

287
00:17:05,315 --> 00:17:08,360
I felt she was a hard working
woman, with all them kids.

288
00:17:08,360 --> 00:17:12,072
Ever entertain any guilt feelings,
or animosity towards her?

289
00:17:12,614 --> 00:17:14,950
Oh, no, I can't judge her.

290
00:17:14,950 --> 00:17:17,119
I beg your pardon?

291
00:17:17,327 --> 00:17:19,913
I can't judge her.

292
00:17:22,041 --> 00:17:25,294
- Would you like to say prayer, Sylvia?
- Sure.

293
00:17:26,712 --> 00:17:28,881
Bless this food we eat,
and release...

294
00:17:28,881 --> 00:17:31,091
us from our sins, amen.

295
00:17:31,091 --> 00:17:33,093
Amen!

296
00:17:37,014 --> 00:17:39,641
Somebody get out there,
and feed that dog!

297
00:17:39,641 --> 00:17:41,643
Yeah, mama.

298
00:17:46,190 --> 00:17:47,816
Sorry, I'm late.

299
00:17:47,816 --> 00:17:49,735
Where you been?

300
00:17:50,027 --> 00:17:53,238
I took up the shift
for Ellen.

301
00:17:54,656 --> 00:17:57,034
I told you, I didn't want you
to see that boy anymore.

302
00:17:57,034 --> 00:17:59,036
- and I mean it.
- I didn't.

303
00:17:59,036 --> 00:18:01,538
Don't lie to me, Paula.

304
00:18:01,789 --> 00:18:04,792
What? Was he here?
Did Andy say something?

305
00:18:05,084 --> 00:18:07,294
- That's none of your business.
- Yeah, you just don't want...

306
00:18:07,294 --> 00:18:10,130
me to make the same
mistakes, you've made.

307
00:18:18,722 --> 00:18:21,392
I said, feed that dog!

308
00:18:25,479 --> 00:18:27,981
Johnny, feed the dog!

309
00:18:39,993 --> 00:18:42,329
What's wrong, Paula?

310
00:18:44,289 --> 00:18:47,126
I've got problems, Sylvia.

311
00:18:47,876 --> 00:18:50,379
Big problems.

312
00:18:53,632 --> 00:18:55,801
With Bradley?

313
00:19:00,597 --> 00:19:03,809
I went to the doctor, today.

314
00:19:05,853 --> 00:19:08,272
I'm pregnant.

315
00:19:14,403 --> 00:19:16,989
You know the guy is married,

316
00:19:16,989 --> 00:19:18,949
I know, he wouldn't want a baby.

317
00:19:18,949 --> 00:19:22,244
I don't know a
damn thing to do.

318
00:19:24,830 --> 00:19:27,458
Well, you... you gotta tell him.

319
00:19:27,708 --> 00:19:29,960
I can't.

320
00:19:30,461 --> 00:19:32,963
Well, I think you gotta.

321
00:19:34,673 --> 00:19:39,678
You gotta promise me, that you
wont say anything to anybody.

322
00:19:40,721 --> 00:19:45,309
Not a word, until I figure out
what I'm gonna do, okay?

323
00:19:47,061 --> 00:19:49,438
Yeah, I promise.

324
00:19:53,025 --> 00:19:55,361
It's gonna be okay.

325
00:20:58,173 --> 00:21:00,092
Mama?

326
00:21:06,432 --> 00:21:08,225
Mama!

327
00:21:18,861 --> 00:21:21,238
I want you all, upstairs!

328
00:21:22,614 --> 00:21:24,616
Come on.

329
00:21:25,242 --> 00:21:27,411
Except for you two!

330
00:21:29,121 --> 00:21:31,790
I want you down in the basement!

331
00:21:47,431 --> 00:21:50,351
Your daddy�s' check
didn't arrive today.

332
00:21:50,351 --> 00:21:52,728
Oh, it's probably just late.

333
00:21:53,062 --> 00:21:56,648
I know my Mama, she wouldn't
let him forget.

334
00:21:56,648 --> 00:21:58,525
You know what I think?

335
00:21:58,567 --> 00:22:03,364
I just took care of you two,
for two weeks... for nothing.

336
00:22:04,531 --> 00:22:07,242
I think your mama and daddy...

337
00:22:07,242 --> 00:22:09,620
left you here for good.

338
00:22:09,787 --> 00:22:11,663
They wouldn't do that.

339
00:22:11,663 --> 00:22:13,957
Keep your mouth shut!

340
00:22:19,254 --> 00:22:21,423
Lean over those.

341
00:22:22,049 --> 00:22:24,426
Go on, lean over.

342
00:22:40,317 --> 00:22:42,986
- No!
- Come on! Come on.

343
00:22:42,986 --> 00:22:45,322
- Oh, no!
- Get up!

344
00:22:45,322 --> 00:22:46,949
- Gertie!
- Come on!

345
00:22:46,949 --> 00:22:50,452
- No, let go of me!
- Let me get hers.

346
00:23:11,932 --> 00:23:13,892
Okay.

347
00:23:14,685 --> 00:23:16,520
Come on.

348
00:23:24,445 --> 00:23:26,488
Okay.

349
00:23:32,411 --> 00:23:35,080
I need that money.

350
00:23:52,931 --> 00:23:55,434
Come on, Jennie...

351
00:23:57,978 --> 00:24:02,066
It's not like, we never
had a spanking before.

352
00:24:03,984 --> 00:24:08,113
You know, that check's gonna
come tomorrow, I swear.

353
00:24:26,215 --> 00:24:28,550
- Johnny!
- What? Give me the thing back!

354
00:24:28,550 --> 00:24:29,718
Stop that!

355
00:24:29,718 --> 00:24:31,637
Stop, hurting me!

356
00:24:31,637 --> 00:24:34,306
I'm 15, I should be able to come.

357
00:24:34,306 --> 00:24:37,351
Well, somebody's gotta play
catch with the little ones.

358
00:24:38,060 --> 00:24:41,188
I wonder if Bradley
is gonna be there.

359
00:24:42,981 --> 00:24:45,234
<i>Freedom was in jeopardy...</i>

360
00:24:45,693 --> 00:24:48,987
<i>when the struggling
people had been brought...</i>

361
00:24:48,987 --> 00:24:53,117
<i>almost to their knees,
by aggression.</i>

362
00:24:53,367 --> 00:24:57,788
<i>When William Westmoreland,
was called to urgent duty.</i>

363
00:24:57,788 --> 00:25:00,708
<i>$20.00.
Pay to: Gertrude Baniszewski</i>

364
00:25:00,708 --> 00:25:03,127
<i>His mission was to deny
aggression, it's conquest.</i>

365
00:25:03,127 --> 00:25:05,587
Please give us a call.
Love, Mom and Dad.

366
00:25:05,587 --> 00:25:09,466
<i>It was a mission, simple
enough to stake.</i>

367
00:25:09,842 --> 00:25:12,678
<i>But to execute that mission...</i>

368
00:25:12,761 --> 00:25:15,305
<i>he had to fight the most
complex war...</i>

369
00:25:15,305 --> 00:25:17,099
<i>in all American history.</i>

370
00:25:17,099 --> 00:25:19,226
What're you gonna see tonight,
Stephanie?

371
00:25:19,226 --> 00:25:21,228
Well, they ain't gonna
show a movie, Marie.

372
00:25:21,228 --> 00:25:22,855
The only thing she'll be seeing...

373
00:25:22,855 --> 00:25:25,065
is Coys hand, while
she's pushing him away.

374
00:25:25,065 --> 00:25:26,942
I might not be pushing to hard.

375
00:25:26,942 --> 00:25:28,861
Yeah, yeah, princess Grace...

376
00:25:28,861 --> 00:25:30,779
you'd scream, if he
breads on your blouse.

377
00:25:30,779 --> 00:25:32,948
That's not true, Paula,
you know it.

378
00:25:32,948 --> 00:25:35,367
Don't give Sylvia
the wrong idea, now.

379
00:25:35,701 --> 00:25:38,203
Look, I shot his eye out.

380
00:25:38,245 --> 00:25:39,538
Why'd you do that?

381
00:25:39,538 --> 00:25:41,457
Johnny! Get outta here!

382
00:25:42,499 --> 00:25:43,709
You're dead!

383
00:25:43,709 --> 00:25:45,753
That's insane.

384
00:25:46,962 --> 00:25:49,673
Listen, God! This is crap!

385
00:25:49,673 --> 00:25:53,385
There is nothing ever to do,
in this shit-hole town.

386
00:25:53,385 --> 00:25:55,179
It ain't that bad, Teddy.

387
00:25:55,179 --> 00:25:57,014
Yeah, it is.

388
00:25:58,974 --> 00:26:00,768
Howdy!

389
00:26:04,855 --> 00:26:07,983
You know?
Don't know about you...

390
00:26:08,275 --> 00:26:10,569
but, I'm staying up,
all night, tonight.

391
00:26:10,569 --> 00:26:13,489
He's parents ain't
gonna like that.

392
00:26:13,489 --> 00:26:15,491
They don't give a shit.

393
00:26:15,491 --> 00:26:17,159
Do they?

394
00:26:17,659 --> 00:26:20,954
- You like it here?
- Yeah, it's really nice.

395
00:26:20,954 --> 00:26:22,915
He's here.

396
00:26:23,248 --> 00:26:24,958
I'll be right back.

397
00:26:24,958 --> 00:26:26,919
Maybe you shouldn't.

398
00:26:33,258 --> 00:26:34,802
Hey!

399
00:26:34,885 --> 00:26:36,178
Ricky.

400
00:26:36,178 --> 00:26:38,347
You shouldn't sneak
up on girls like that.

401
00:26:38,347 --> 00:26:39,973
I'm sorry.

402
00:26:39,973 --> 00:26:43,352
Hey, the nursery is
around the corner.

403
00:26:43,352 --> 00:26:46,063
You might wanna get back,
before they miss you.

404
00:26:46,063 --> 00:26:47,648
I brought some favors.

405
00:26:47,648 --> 00:26:49,525
Give me some of that!

406
00:26:53,696 --> 00:26:55,197
What're you doing here?

407
00:26:55,197 --> 00:26:58,075
- I wanted to see you.
- We already talked about this.

408
00:26:58,867 --> 00:27:02,496
I just be right back.

409
00:27:03,622 --> 00:27:05,165
Good!

410
00:27:05,165 --> 00:27:07,793
I already told you, my wife is
back from her cousins house.

411
00:27:07,793 --> 00:27:09,795
So that's it. Okay?

412
00:27:10,045 --> 00:27:13,924
Now, be a good girl,
and go play with your friends.

413
00:27:15,843 --> 00:27:18,595
You know, my Mama's
been calling you trash.

414
00:27:18,595 --> 00:27:20,639
I'm starting to believe her.

415
00:27:21,306 --> 00:27:24,935
You should listen to your
mother, Paula, she knows best.

416
00:27:24,935 --> 00:27:27,062
You know, you don't mean that.

417
00:27:27,062 --> 00:27:28,230
Lay off me!

418
00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:29,523
Get off me!

419
00:27:29,523 --> 00:27:31,525
- No!
- Just a kiss.

420
00:27:31,942 --> 00:27:35,154
- Is this what you want, huh?
- Stop it! Stop!

421
00:27:35,154 --> 00:27:37,281
- Hey! Stop!
- Get the hell outta here!

422
00:27:37,281 --> 00:27:39,241
It's private fool, no invitation.

423
00:27:39,575 --> 00:27:41,243
She is pregnant!

424
00:27:48,125 --> 00:27:52,087
Don't try to pull that shit on me!
You know, it ain't true.

425
00:27:52,796 --> 00:27:54,757
There ain't no way.

426
00:27:56,675 --> 00:27:58,886
Stay away.

427
00:28:00,596 --> 00:28:02,639
Paula, I'm so sorry.
I just wanted to...

428
00:28:02,639 --> 00:28:06,602
- You're gonna pay for this!
- I... Paula, I just...

429
00:28:11,065 --> 00:28:13,025
Is everything okay?

430
00:28:13,025 --> 00:28:15,527
Would you quit following me!

431
00:28:27,414 --> 00:28:29,083
Paula?

432
00:28:30,584 --> 00:28:32,294
Honey, you're crying!

433
00:28:32,294 --> 00:28:34,588
- Mom!
- What's wrong?

434
00:28:35,506 --> 00:28:38,300
I ain't talking to him anymore.

435
00:28:38,300 --> 00:28:43,097
Oh, that's a good girl,
that's a good girl, yes.

436
00:28:44,473 --> 00:28:47,226
You know, we're gonna find
you a good man, Honey.

437
00:28:47,226 --> 00:28:50,062
Not like Andy, or your daddy.

438
00:28:51,146 --> 00:28:53,732
But Sylvia said...

439
00:28:54,066 --> 00:28:55,901
What?

440
00:28:59,238 --> 00:29:03,158
She telling horrible lies,
about me.

441
00:29:06,245 --> 00:29:08,664
What kind of lies?

442
00:29:13,585 --> 00:29:17,089
She's telling everyone,
that I'm a slut.

443
00:29:19,967 --> 00:29:22,011
You should have seen those
boys when they heard...

444
00:29:22,011 --> 00:29:24,722
that I was a slut.

445
00:29:25,597 --> 00:29:28,017
Sylvia said that?.

446
00:29:36,066 --> 00:29:38,277
Don't worry, Baby.

447
00:29:39,278 --> 00:29:41,572
Don't worry.

448
00:29:47,536 --> 00:29:52,082
Did you ever hear Sylvia, use
any vanity or vulgar language?

449
00:29:52,082 --> 00:29:53,250
No, Sir.

450
00:29:53,250 --> 00:29:57,921
Do you know how often Sylvia went
to Sunday school or church?

451
00:29:57,921 --> 00:29:59,673
She'd go every time we went.

452
00:29:59,673 --> 00:30:02,301
- Does Sylvia have a bible?
- yes.

453
00:30:02,301 --> 00:30:04,845
Did she dress up nice and clean?

454
00:30:04,845 --> 00:30:06,347
Yes, Sir.

455
00:30:06,347 --> 00:30:10,934
As Mathew said:
"Enter by the narrow gate".

456
00:30:11,185 --> 00:30:14,229
For the gate is wide and
the way is easy...

457
00:30:14,229 --> 00:30:16,940
that leads to destruction...

458
00:30:16,940 --> 00:30:20,694
and those who enter by it,
are many.

459
00:30:22,029 --> 00:30:26,116
When the gate is narrow
and the way is hard...

460
00:30:26,116 --> 00:30:28,285
that leads to life...

461
00:30:28,285 --> 00:30:32,623
and those who find it, are few.

462
00:30:49,264 --> 00:30:52,017
Jennie, come sit with me!

463
00:31:12,246 --> 00:31:15,374
We gotta go upstairs and change.

464
00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:19,253
I want you all down here.

465
00:31:19,503 --> 00:31:21,672
Family-meeting.

466
00:31:23,882 --> 00:31:26,301
It's a lesson for all of you.

467
00:31:42,484 --> 00:31:45,237
You need to apologize to Paula.

468
00:31:52,244 --> 00:31:53,412
But Gertie, I... I don't know...

469
00:31:53,412 --> 00:31:55,706
I want you to apologize.

470
00:31:55,706 --> 00:31:57,875
What she'd done, mama?

471
00:31:58,167 --> 00:32:01,295
She's been spreading lies
about your sister.

472
00:32:01,295 --> 00:32:03,047
I...

473
00:32:10,179 --> 00:32:12,139
I'm sorry.

474
00:32:13,474 --> 00:32:17,269
Paula, you have the right,
to get even.

475
00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:19,396
What you wanna do?

476
00:32:19,980 --> 00:32:22,232
I want you to punish her, mama.

477
00:32:24,777 --> 00:32:26,862
You have to learn to fight
your own battles, baby.

478
00:32:26,862 --> 00:32:29,323
- Get over there.
- Johnny, grab her arms.

479
00:32:29,907 --> 00:32:31,533
I said I was sorry.

480
00:32:31,533 --> 00:32:33,410
I don't care what you said.

481
00:32:36,121 --> 00:32:38,957
Go on, she's got it coming.

482
00:32:45,214 --> 00:32:46,715
Let her go!

483
00:32:47,466 --> 00:32:49,677
I'm sure, she
can defend herself.

484
00:32:57,059 --> 00:32:58,936
I am not.

485
00:32:58,936 --> 00:33:00,646
I will not.

486
00:33:00,646 --> 00:33:03,107
- I am not.
- She is not!

487
00:33:05,192 --> 00:33:07,111
Damn it!

488
00:33:07,611 --> 00:33:09,822
Enough, that's okay!

489
00:33:12,658 --> 00:33:13,826
Get up.

490
00:33:13,826 --> 00:33:15,577
Get up! Get up!

491
00:33:19,331 --> 00:33:21,542
She's learned her lesson.

492
00:33:21,875 --> 00:33:24,753
That's what happens
when you tell lies.

493
00:33:25,963 --> 00:33:27,840
Go on!

494
00:33:38,392 --> 00:33:40,352
You too, get!

495
00:34:03,334 --> 00:34:05,627
Are you awake?

496
00:34:11,258 --> 00:34:13,385
You're okay?

497
00:34:16,513 --> 00:34:19,350
Did you say your prayers yet?

498
00:34:22,019 --> 00:34:24,855
How about mamas favorite psalm?

499
00:34:31,236 --> 00:34:35,324
Turn on to me, and be
gracious to me, dear lord.

500
00:34:35,991 --> 00:34:39,370
for I am lonely and affected.

501
00:34:39,370 --> 00:34:42,206
Release the chalice of my heart...

502
00:34:42,206 --> 00:34:45,793
and bring me out
of my distresses!

503
00:34:47,544 --> 00:34:50,839
Consider how many are my foes...

504
00:34:51,256 --> 00:34:52,424
Thank you.

505
00:34:52,424 --> 00:34:55,427
I will put my fate in thee...

506
00:34:57,137 --> 00:35:00,599
make my life in to a better me.

507
00:35:01,558 --> 00:35:04,687
I will not think of the shame.

508
00:35:05,521 --> 00:35:08,315
I take refuge in thee!

509
00:35:10,776 --> 00:35:14,738
and take thee in greatness be sure.

510
00:35:18,033 --> 00:35:20,703
Amen.

511
00:35:38,178 --> 00:35:40,681
- I hear, your sister's pregnant.
- I see you.

512
00:35:40,681 --> 00:35:44,184
- Who's the guy?
- You know, that's not funny.

513
00:35:44,768 --> 00:35:47,187
I didn't say it.

514
00:35:48,355 --> 00:35:50,774
A lotta people are talking.

515
00:36:14,631 --> 00:36:16,759
Why aren't you in school?

516
00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:29,855
You, huh... doing okay?

517
00:36:31,607 --> 00:36:32,816
Yeah.

518
00:36:32,816 --> 00:36:35,235
It's, huh... Sylvia, right?

519
00:36:35,361 --> 00:36:37,154
Yeah.

520
00:36:38,197 --> 00:36:40,282
Eric.

521
00:36:40,324 --> 00:36:42,576
I, huh... I've
seen you at church.

522
00:36:42,576 --> 00:36:44,787
Yeah, that's me.

523
00:36:45,287 --> 00:36:47,831
You're going to the, huh...
pick-nick, next Saturday?

524
00:36:49,124 --> 00:36:51,335
Well, huh... I hope so.

525
00:36:51,335 --> 00:36:52,503
Okay.

526
00:36:52,503 --> 00:36:54,338
Maybe I'll see you there.

527
00:36:59,134 --> 00:37:01,011
Huh... I'm gonna go.

528
00:37:01,261 --> 00:37:03,180
Okay.

529
00:37:06,475 --> 00:37:09,687
Why was Mama so upset
about the other day?

530
00:37:09,687 --> 00:37:11,230
You haven't heard?

531
00:37:11,230 --> 00:37:13,565
I told everyone,
that Paula was a slut.

532
00:37:13,565 --> 00:37:16,110
That's not true, is it?

533
00:37:17,486 --> 00:37:20,864
There's some worse rumors
going around, about her.

534
00:37:24,159 --> 00:37:26,662
Do you think, she's pregnant?

535
00:37:26,662 --> 00:37:30,082
- What do you think?
- Yeah, she's real easy.

536
00:37:40,509 --> 00:37:42,428
Thanks.

537
00:37:43,637 --> 00:37:45,973
How's your mama?

538
00:37:46,432 --> 00:37:48,308
Okay.

539
00:37:48,642 --> 00:37:51,061
She still in the hospital?

540
00:37:51,061 --> 00:37:52,980
Yeah.

541
00:37:58,277 --> 00:38:00,612
Who's taking care of you?

542
00:38:03,282 --> 00:38:05,367
I am.

543
00:38:07,661 --> 00:38:10,539
Oh, you don't have a girlfriend?

544
00:38:12,374 --> 00:38:14,001
I don't know.

545
00:38:14,001 --> 00:38:16,295
- You don't know?
- No, I don't.

546
00:38:16,295 --> 00:38:18,630
And, huh... does she know?

547
00:38:22,593 --> 00:38:24,219
You wanna a sip?

548
00:38:24,219 --> 00:38:26,513
I ain't old enough.

549
00:38:28,932 --> 00:38:31,143
You ain't old enough
to smoke, either...

550
00:38:31,143 --> 00:38:33,604
and that's not stopping you.

551
00:38:38,484 --> 00:38:40,444
Jennie?

552
00:38:41,028 --> 00:38:44,114
I think, we should call mom and dad.

553
00:38:44,490 --> 00:38:46,700
How we're supposed to do that?

554
00:38:46,700 --> 00:38:49,828
Here, I found this in the trash.

555
00:38:56,043 --> 00:38:59,797
So, huh... how long's Sylvia
gonna be staying here?

556
00:39:00,381 --> 00:39:03,342
You got a crush on Sylvia?

557
00:39:10,724 --> 00:39:13,060
She is pretty.

558
00:39:14,645 --> 00:39:16,689
When I was in high-school...

559
00:39:16,689 --> 00:39:20,901
I was popular with the boys
too then, they all chased me.

560
00:39:22,945 --> 00:39:25,322
I believe you.

561
00:39:25,781 --> 00:39:27,574
Thank you.

562
00:39:28,826 --> 00:39:31,412
Oh, are you warm.

563
00:39:37,543 --> 00:39:40,295
What're you doing home
from school so early?

564
00:39:40,295 --> 00:39:43,257
I'm not feeling real good.

565
00:39:44,008 --> 00:39:45,801
Paula?

566
00:39:46,343 --> 00:39:48,512
You better go.

567
00:39:49,972 --> 00:39:52,057
Alright, you first.

568
00:39:52,057 --> 00:39:53,225
<i>Hello?</i>

569
00:39:53,225 --> 00:39:55,602
<i>- Mama?
- Oh, Honey!</i>

570
00:39:55,602 --> 00:39:57,604
I was afraid, you didn't
get our letter.

571
00:39:57,604 --> 00:39:59,857
Oh, mama, we miss you so much.

572
00:39:59,857 --> 00:40:01,567
<i>Oh, I miss you too, Honey.</i>

573
00:40:01,567 --> 00:40:03,777
I'm gonna pick you up in 2 weeks.

574
00:40:03,777 --> 00:40:06,363
So, how is everything going there?

575
00:40:07,614 --> 00:40:10,534
Oh, Gertrude's awful strict, mama.

576
00:40:10,534 --> 00:40:12,661
<i>We got in a whole
lotta trouble.</i>

577
00:40:12,661 --> 00:40:14,455
<i>What do you mean?
Did she punish you?</i>

578
00:40:14,455 --> 00:40:16,540
What's goin' on? These girls
been getting in trouble again?

579
00:40:16,540 --> 00:40:18,208
<i>- Let me talk to'm.
- She got mad...</i>

580
00:40:18,208 --> 00:40:19,626
because your check's late.

581
00:40:19,626 --> 00:40:20,836
Our check was late?

582
00:40:20,836 --> 00:40:22,296
<i>No, it wasn't.</i>

583
00:40:22,296 --> 00:40:24,089
<i>Let me talk to her.</i>

584
00:40:24,089 --> 00:40:25,632
Oh, we gotta go.

585
00:40:25,758 --> 00:40:27,134
<i>Sylvia?</i>

586
00:40:27,134 --> 00:40:28,677
<i>Sylvia!</i>

587
00:40:30,554 --> 00:40:32,598
They're coming, mama.

588
00:40:42,024 --> 00:40:44,860
Calling your boyfriend, Sylvia?

589
00:40:44,943 --> 00:40:46,403
No.

590
00:40:46,403 --> 00:40:48,364
Nobody special.

591
00:40:48,364 --> 00:40:50,699
We miss our parents.

592
00:40:51,658 --> 00:40:53,744
Thank you, Jennie.

593
00:40:54,036 --> 00:40:56,580
Where'd you get the money to
make a long-distance call?

594
00:40:56,580 --> 00:41:00,417
I was picking up empty bottles
at the Park, and traded'm in.

595
00:41:00,417 --> 00:41:03,337
Honest, that's all she did.

596
00:41:18,602 --> 00:41:20,312
What she's gonna do?

597
00:41:20,312 --> 00:41:23,232
<i>What she always does, when
she catches you stealin'.</i>

598
00:41:24,191 --> 00:41:27,027
Are you gonna lie to me again?

599
00:41:27,027 --> 00:41:30,155
- No, Gertie, I...
- You gonna steal is this household?

600
00:41:30,155 --> 00:41:32,741
I didn't steal from you, Gertie.

601
00:41:32,741 --> 00:41:35,744
What you'd... call your parents,
and warn them, that...

602
00:41:35,744 --> 00:41:37,746
Gertie doesn't treat you right?

603
00:41:37,746 --> 00:41:39,623
No, ma'am.

604
00:41:40,874 --> 00:41:42,418
Alright.

605
00:41:45,004 --> 00:41:46,088
I'm sorry!

606
00:41:46,296 --> 00:41:47,798
I'm sorry!

607
00:41:54,430 --> 00:41:58,058
Okay, okay, that's a good girl,
that's a good girl.

608
00:42:02,688 --> 00:42:05,357
You wanna put some ice on that.

609
00:42:14,324 --> 00:42:17,828
Now, I think you stated, Marie,
that your sister Paula...

610
00:42:17,828 --> 00:42:21,832
you'd volunteered, that Paula
was jealous of Sylvia.

611
00:42:21,832 --> 00:42:25,252
Every time she looked at her,
her eyes looked like she hated her.

612
00:42:25,252 --> 00:42:28,255
Do you know, what the
word jealous means?

613
00:42:28,547 --> 00:42:30,841
Angry at someone.

614
00:42:30,841 --> 00:42:32,926
Can you assign a reason...

615
00:42:32,926 --> 00:42:37,556
to, why Paula might shoot Sylvia,
those angry, jealous glances?

616
00:42:39,266 --> 00:42:41,727
I guess, because Sylvia thought...

617
00:42:41,727 --> 00:42:44,897
she was so much more important,
than Paula was.

618
00:42:44,897 --> 00:42:47,649
Do you remember a time, when you
went to Bethany Baptist church...

619
00:42:47,649 --> 00:42:50,652
and had little sandwiches
and something to drink?

620
00:42:55,657 --> 00:42:59,161
I haven't seen you eat
up in a few weeks.

621
00:42:59,161 --> 00:43:03,040
Oh, I'm sorry, Mrs. Orbach,
I've I had to work.

622
00:43:03,082 --> 00:43:05,334
What's with your arm, Paula?

623
00:43:06,168 --> 00:43:09,171
I lost my temper, with Sylvia.

624
00:43:09,463 --> 00:43:11,965
So, what'd you mean,
what happened?

625
00:43:14,259 --> 00:43:17,638
She's been doing some real
terrible things.

626
00:43:17,638 --> 00:43:19,556
I had to be real strict with her.

627
00:43:22,518 --> 00:43:24,853
Come on, its Ok.
It's Ok, come on.

628
00:43:25,270 --> 00:43:27,147
Don't take too much.

629
00:43:28,607 --> 00:43:30,317
Hey, what're you doing here?

630
00:43:30,317 --> 00:43:32,111
Came out, for the free food.

631
00:43:32,111 --> 00:43:34,029
And the women.

632
00:43:34,405 --> 00:43:37,074
I hope you don't want
any money, because...

633
00:43:37,074 --> 00:43:40,202
- So, John Senior has...
- I'm not here for money.

634
00:43:40,202 --> 00:43:41,995
Bradley send me.

635
00:43:41,995 --> 00:43:43,997
About Paula.

636
00:43:45,999 --> 00:43:49,461
- Did you say hi to the baby yet?
- Ah-ah.

637
00:43:52,256 --> 00:43:55,676
- Look, about yesterday...
- It's fine, it's fine.

638
00:43:55,676 --> 00:43:57,219
- Sylvia, I'm really...
- It's alright, don't worry about it.

639
00:43:57,219 --> 00:43:59,972
Mama, be back by the
end of this week.

640
00:44:08,188 --> 00:44:09,732
Hey.

641
00:44:10,190 --> 00:44:11,692
Hi.

642
00:44:12,526 --> 00:44:15,529
A couple of my friends, are eating
over there, you wanna join us?

643
00:44:16,238 --> 00:44:18,574
- Sure.
- Okay.

644
00:44:19,283 --> 00:44:21,076
Sylvia!

645
00:44:21,076 --> 00:44:23,829
- Just one second.
- No problem.

646
00:44:25,998 --> 00:44:30,127
Ricky, remember what I said
the other day about Paula?

647
00:44:30,169 --> 00:44:32,254
Did you say something?

648
00:44:32,338 --> 00:44:34,173
No.

649
00:44:34,340 --> 00:44:35,883
Because people are talking...

650
00:44:35,883 --> 00:44:38,135
and Stephanie and
Paula, are blaming me.

651
00:44:38,135 --> 00:44:40,929
No, no, I wouldn't do
something like that.

652
00:44:42,014 --> 00:44:43,849
I better go.

653
00:44:49,229 --> 00:44:51,982
I understand she's pregnant?

654
00:44:52,107 --> 00:44:53,942
He says, he's willing to
pay for the abortion.

655
00:44:53,942 --> 00:44:56,320
Be quiet, keep your
voice down, please!

656
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,532
If Paula's willing to go through
with it, anything to keep it quiet.

657
00:45:00,532 --> 00:45:02,284
Here.

658
00:45:05,537 --> 00:45:08,749
There's not gonna be an abortion,
because she's not pregnant.

659
00:45:08,749 --> 00:45:10,209
He didn't even know about it.

660
00:45:10,209 --> 00:45:12,461
But, Sylvia is the one saying it.

661
00:45:13,545 --> 00:45:18,384
That girl's been nothing but trouble
since she came in to my house.

662
00:45:18,634 --> 00:45:22,429
If anyone is pregnant,
she is, I'll bet she is.

663
00:45:26,308 --> 00:45:28,143
I gotta go.

664
00:45:28,894 --> 00:45:30,437
Bye, Kenny.

665
00:45:30,813 --> 00:45:32,731
Bye.

666
00:45:34,900 --> 00:45:36,777
He'll be back, baby.

667
00:45:36,777 --> 00:45:38,404
Hey!

668
00:45:41,156 --> 00:45:44,618
Coming over to hang out
with the grown-ups?

669
00:45:50,499 --> 00:45:53,085
I've got some advice for you.

670
00:45:53,293 --> 00:45:56,088
I wouldn't come between
Gertie and her kids,

671
00:45:56,088 --> 00:45:58,173
She won't like it much.

672
00:45:58,173 --> 00:45:59,758
Alright.

673
00:46:06,015 --> 00:46:07,558
You okay, Gertie?

674
00:46:09,435 --> 00:46:11,854
Yeah, I'm fine.

675
00:46:13,689 --> 00:46:17,568
A bunch of us, gonna cruise the
circle, you wanna come with?

676
00:46:18,485 --> 00:46:22,114
Sure, I probably should
ask Gertie first.

677
00:46:22,740 --> 00:46:24,742
You sure?

678
00:46:26,118 --> 00:46:28,704
Come on, let's get outta here!

679
00:46:34,793 --> 00:46:37,421
Looks like Sylvia's going
off with them boys.

680
00:46:37,421 --> 00:46:40,341
You sound surprised,
Ricky Hobbs.

681
00:46:40,341 --> 00:46:42,760
You shouldn't be.

682
00:46:44,345 --> 00:46:46,513
Let me do that!

683
00:46:49,099 --> 00:46:51,560
You can try, Patty.

684
00:46:55,105 --> 00:46:58,025
You sure you can't come,
to the Drive-in with us?

685
00:46:59,276 --> 00:47:02,780
No, I'm... I'm late as it is.

686
00:47:03,697 --> 00:47:05,199
Let's go!

687
00:47:08,660 --> 00:47:11,538
Well, I guess, I'll see you
next Sunday then.

688
00:47:24,677 --> 00:47:26,804
Shut that door.

689
00:47:39,274 --> 00:47:42,861
I dought, I thought you a lesson.

690
00:47:47,157 --> 00:47:49,910
I don't understand.

691
00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:54,540
Apparently, you've been telling
more lies about my daughter.

692
00:47:56,834 --> 00:47:59,128
I haven't told any lies.

693
00:48:03,757 --> 00:48:06,844
- And then you flirt with, Andy.
- I didn't.

694
00:48:07,094 --> 00:48:09,596
I saw you!

695
00:48:14,601 --> 00:48:19,982
No matter what you want,
you just... you just take it.

696
00:48:20,858 --> 00:48:24,945
No, Gertie, we were just talking.

697
00:48:26,488 --> 00:48:28,699
That's all.

698
00:48:34,204 --> 00:48:35,956
Who's in charge here?

699
00:48:35,956 --> 00:48:37,583
You are, mama.

700
00:48:37,583 --> 00:48:39,668
That's right, Baby.

701
00:48:49,219 --> 00:48:53,182
Paula, told me about those
boys in California.

702
00:48:53,599 --> 00:48:57,728
Ricky, did Sylvia tell you, about
all those boys in California?

703
00:48:59,355 --> 00:49:01,398
No.

704
00:49:03,108 --> 00:49:04,735
Well' if you won't listen to me...

705
00:49:04,735 --> 00:49:06,987
maybe I can get you to
listen to your sister.

706
00:49:07,237 --> 00:49:10,574
Keep her from making
those mistakes.

707
00:49:10,574 --> 00:49:12,076
Jennie...

708
00:49:12,201 --> 00:49:15,120
do you wanna be like your sister?

709
00:49:17,873 --> 00:49:19,500
No, ma'am.

710
00:49:21,251 --> 00:49:23,462
That's a good girl.

711
00:49:56,662 --> 00:49:59,415
Patty, then what did
Mrs. Baniszewski do?

712
00:49:59,415 --> 00:50:01,375
She handed her a bottle...

713
00:50:01,375 --> 00:50:03,836
and told her to pull all her skirt.

714
00:50:03,836 --> 00:50:05,713
And then?

715
00:50:05,754 --> 00:50:09,591
And then, she said
to put it up her.

716
00:50:11,593 --> 00:50:15,764
Did Sylvia say anything, when
Mrs. Baniszewski ask her to do this?

717
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,767
All she said was...

718
00:50:18,767 --> 00:50:20,477
I can't.

719
00:50:20,477 --> 00:50:22,646
What did Mrs. Baniszewski say?

720
00:50:22,646 --> 00:50:23,814
She said...

721
00:50:23,814 --> 00:50:26,066
Come on, you can do
better than that!

722
00:50:26,066 --> 00:50:28,277
And what did Sylvia do?

723
00:50:28,444 --> 00:50:30,863
What Gertie told her to.

724
00:50:32,531 --> 00:50:34,783
What the hell is going on?

725
00:50:35,284 --> 00:50:37,286
Somebody, clean up the mess!

726
00:50:37,286 --> 00:50:39,204
Sylvia, get upstairs!

727
00:50:39,204 --> 00:50:41,206
Coy, get her up there!

728
00:50:44,918 --> 00:50:46,086
Wait!

729
00:50:46,086 --> 00:50:49,214
I will not have her in the
same room with my daughter's.

730
00:50:49,214 --> 00:50:50,799
Take her to the basement!

731
00:50:50,799 --> 00:50:52,760
Please, I'm sorry, I'm sorry!

732
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,430
- Open the door, Johnny!
- I'm sorry, Gertie! I'm sorry!

733
00:50:56,889 --> 00:50:59,183
Get her outta here!

734
00:50:59,308 --> 00:51:01,727
No! Noooo...

735
00:51:01,727 --> 00:51:04,605
It's best to stay
out of there, I think?

736
00:51:05,064 --> 00:51:08,817
Don't worry, Jennie,
Mama's just teaching her.

737
00:51:08,817 --> 00:51:12,696
- She won't go down.
- I don't care! Just push her!

738
00:52:11,046 --> 00:52:12,923
Hey, Marie!

739
00:52:45,581 --> 00:52:47,458
Sylvia.

740
00:52:48,375 --> 00:52:50,294
Sylvia.

741
00:52:55,299 --> 00:52:57,676
I'm sorry, Sylvia.

742
00:52:59,178 --> 00:53:01,055
But, I'm to scared.

743
00:53:02,014 --> 00:53:05,642
I've tried talking,
with Gertie, but...

744
00:53:09,313 --> 00:53:14,068
She... she said,
you can have your bible.

745
00:53:17,529 --> 00:53:19,281
Jennie.

746
00:53:19,782 --> 00:53:22,326
Mama wants you upstairs.

747
00:53:22,368 --> 00:53:24,536
Family-meeting.

748
00:53:26,288 --> 00:53:28,499
I'll do what I can.

749
00:53:29,792 --> 00:53:31,835
She said now.

750
00:53:54,358 --> 00:53:56,402
Stop hitting me!

751
00:53:56,402 --> 00:53:58,195
Give me that!

752
00:53:58,654 --> 00:54:01,615
Johnny, get me my medicine, please.

753
00:54:02,783 --> 00:54:06,912
Oh, this area here,
it's not good for my health.

754
00:54:07,371 --> 00:54:09,123
Maybe we can move.

755
00:54:09,123 --> 00:54:11,208
Where would we move to, Shirley?

756
00:54:11,208 --> 00:54:12,960
I don't know.

757
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,087
I don't wanna move.

758
00:54:20,884 --> 00:54:23,846
I had a call with
your parents today.

759
00:54:23,846 --> 00:54:25,806
Are they coming for us?

760
00:54:25,806 --> 00:54:28,058
Well, they picked up the
Florida Labor Day circuit...

761
00:54:28,058 --> 00:54:31,562
so, they wont be here for you,
until the end of November, now.

762
00:54:32,354 --> 00:54:34,857
Their checks are coming
in regular, though.

763
00:54:34,857 --> 00:54:37,651
My ironing slowed down...

764
00:54:37,651 --> 00:54:39,319
quite a bit.

765
00:54:39,319 --> 00:54:42,865
So, we all have to work
together, as a family.

766
00:54:42,865 --> 00:54:46,785
Maybe, I can eat over at Coy's
house, mama, if that'll help.

767
00:54:46,785 --> 00:54:48,078
Coy?

768
00:54:48,078 --> 00:54:49,705
Mama, wont mind.

769
00:54:49,705 --> 00:54:51,707
She likes Stephanie a lot.

770
00:54:51,707 --> 00:54:53,584
Thank you.

771
00:54:55,878 --> 00:54:57,838
Paula...

772
00:54:58,464 --> 00:55:01,842
Baby, you gonna have to take
up more shift's at work.

773
00:55:01,842 --> 00:55:04,261
Maybe quit Tech for a while.

774
00:55:05,846 --> 00:55:08,390
What about Stephanie?

775
00:55:08,474 --> 00:55:11,477
- Why she have to go to school?
- Because she's smarter than you.

776
00:55:11,477 --> 00:55:13,896
- Shut up, Johnny!
- I'm smarter than you!

777
00:55:13,896 --> 00:55:15,898
- I'm smarter than the both of you!
- Give me my Teddy!

778
00:55:15,898 --> 00:55:17,066
Stop it!

779
00:55:17,066 --> 00:55:18,400
Stop it!

780
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,402
You all, stop it!

781
00:55:22,988 --> 00:55:25,866
That's another thing we have
to work on around here.

782
00:55:25,866 --> 00:55:29,203
We all have to learn
to get along better.

783
00:55:30,204 --> 00:55:34,625
How long is Sylvia,
down in the basement?

784
00:55:37,002 --> 00:55:40,130
Until she learns her lesson.

785
00:55:42,508 --> 00:55:44,093
Mama...

786
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:49,223
She needs to be punished, Paula.

787
00:55:52,309 --> 00:55:54,144
Yes, Mama.

788
00:55:56,605 --> 00:55:59,233
Now, if anybody asks...

789
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,654
Sylvia... had to go to juvenile.

790
00:56:08,867 --> 00:56:10,869
You got that, Jennie?

791
00:56:17,710 --> 00:56:19,712
Okay.

792
00:56:20,504 --> 00:56:22,339
That's it.

793
00:56:48,282 --> 00:56:50,367
Are you sleeping?

794
00:56:56,582 --> 00:56:58,667
You okay?

795
00:57:02,046 --> 00:57:04,048
Yes.

796
00:57:05,507 --> 00:57:08,177
It's only gonna be for a little while.

797
00:57:19,772 --> 00:57:23,442
Did you ever hear or see, Sylvia,
talk back to any of those people...

798
00:57:23,442 --> 00:57:25,194
when these things were
being done to her?

799
00:57:25,194 --> 00:57:26,779
No, I never.

800
00:57:26,779 --> 00:57:29,865
When it first started did
she say anything then?

801
00:57:29,865 --> 00:57:33,827
No, except she would say,
I'm sorry, or something like that,

802
00:57:33,827 --> 00:57:36,372
as if she did something wrong, but...

803
00:57:36,580 --> 00:57:39,291
she never did anything wrong.

804
00:57:39,750 --> 00:57:44,588
Did you yourself, on any of these
occasions, do anything to Sylvia?

805
00:57:44,755 --> 00:57:47,299
I just did what I was told.

806
00:57:50,386 --> 00:57:52,763
Now then, in the month of
September did you see she was an influx

807
00:57:52,763 --> 00:57:55,015
anyone else, do anything to Sylvia?

808
00:58:37,766 --> 00:58:40,144
See, I told you so.

809
00:58:43,981 --> 00:58:45,232
Damn.

810
00:58:45,232 --> 00:58:46,442
What'd she do?

811
00:58:46,442 --> 00:58:47,609
She was real bad.

812
00:58:47,609 --> 00:58:48,777
She's dirty.

813
00:58:48,777 --> 00:58:50,696
Mama said, she was a slut.

814
00:58:53,699 --> 00:58:54,867
Johnny!

815
00:58:54,867 --> 00:58:56,118
Don't worry about it.

816
00:58:56,118 --> 00:58:58,203
She's used to it.

817
00:58:59,538 --> 00:59:01,498
Watch this!

818
00:59:08,172 --> 00:59:09,340
Neat, huh?

819
00:59:09,340 --> 00:59:10,883
You just burn her like that?

820
00:59:10,883 --> 00:59:12,718
Yeah, you can too.

821
00:59:12,718 --> 00:59:14,386
- I don't want to.
- What? You're chicken?.

822
00:59:14,386 --> 00:59:15,554
It's OK.

823
00:59:15,554 --> 00:59:17,848
Mama, said you can.

824
00:59:47,169 --> 00:59:51,590
Did you see Sally, take cigarettes,
and actually burn Sylvia with them?

825
00:59:51,590 --> 00:59:53,884
- Yes.
- How many times?

826
00:59:53,884 --> 00:59:56,303
She would do it, every
time she came over.

827
00:59:57,346 --> 00:59:59,223
How many times did that happened?

828
00:59:59,264 --> 01:00:01,058
Every day.

829
01:00:01,141 --> 01:00:03,977
Did you go to 3850 East New York St...

830
01:00:04,019 --> 01:00:06,188
during the months of
September and October?

831
01:00:06,230 --> 01:00:07,731
Yes, Sir.

832
01:00:07,773 --> 01:00:09,692
We go most days after school.

833
01:00:09,733 --> 01:00:12,986
And did you see Sylvia Likens,
in the basement of that house?

834
01:00:13,028 --> 01:00:14,488
Yes, Sir.

835
01:00:14,530 --> 01:00:16,573
Did you do anything
at all to help her?

836
01:00:16,615 --> 01:00:17,783
No, Sir.

837
01:00:17,825 --> 01:00:20,744
What were the other children,
be doing around the house?

838
01:00:21,161 --> 01:00:22,663
Playing around.

839
01:00:22,913 --> 01:00:25,124
Did you ever tell some of the other
kids that they should come over...

840
01:00:25,124 --> 01:00:28,127
to the house, because everyone
was having fun with Sylvia?

841
01:00:28,168 --> 01:00:30,587
I just thought,
we were punishing her.

842
01:00:30,629 --> 01:00:34,383
Where was John standing,
when he was washing her down.

843
01:00:34,383 --> 01:00:35,551
Right in front of her.

844
01:00:35,551 --> 01:00:37,511
What part of her body
was he spraying?

845
01:00:37,511 --> 01:00:39,805
- All over.
- Who's hose was he using?

846
01:00:39,805 --> 01:00:41,640
It was my hose, Sir.

847
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:45,019
Sally, did you ever see some of the
other neighborhood kids, hurt Sylvia?

848
01:00:45,019 --> 01:00:46,562
Yes.

849
01:00:47,521 --> 01:00:50,691
Did you tell anybody,
you saw anything?

850
01:00:51,191 --> 01:00:53,360
Not really.

851
01:00:54,153 --> 01:00:58,407
So, you told no one, what was happening
at the Baniszewski's house?

852
01:00:59,158 --> 01:01:00,826
Well, I told my father...

853
01:01:00,826 --> 01:01:03,912
Gertrude gave Sylvia,
an awful whipping.

854
01:01:03,912 --> 01:01:06,457
But, he just told me, I shouldn't
do whatever she did...

855
01:01:06,457 --> 01:01:09,168
or I get the same.

856
01:01:10,127 --> 01:01:11,920
Shirley, was your mother
ever present...

857
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,465
while some of the other people
were doing these things, to Sylvia?

858
01:01:14,465 --> 01:01:16,216
Yes, she was.

859
01:01:16,216 --> 01:01:18,218
How many times?

860
01:01:18,844 --> 01:01:21,180
She was there, just
about all the time.

861
01:01:21,180 --> 01:01:25,434
And what did she say when people
were doing these things, to Sylvia?

862
01:01:26,268 --> 01:01:27,811
Nothing.

863
01:01:34,109 --> 01:01:37,154
Did anyone order you, to hit Sylvia?

864
01:01:37,571 --> 01:01:39,156
No, Sir.

865
01:01:39,156 --> 01:01:41,867
- Or, tie her up?
- No, Sir.

866
01:01:41,867 --> 01:01:43,744
- Or, wash her down?
- No, Sir.

867
01:01:43,744 --> 01:01:45,829
Then, why did you do it, Teddy?

868
01:01:46,538 --> 01:01:48,332
I don't no, Sir.

869
01:01:48,499 --> 01:01:50,501
I don't no, Sir.

870
01:01:50,709 --> 01:01:52,795
I don't no, Sir.

871
01:02:00,344 --> 01:02:02,262
You two, go upstairs.

872
01:02:02,262 --> 01:02:04,056
Yes, Mama.

873
01:02:24,326 --> 01:02:27,746
Paula Baniszewski.
Pregnancy test, Urinalysis.

874
01:02:35,546 --> 01:02:37,548
Who is it?

875
01:02:39,508 --> 01:02:41,635
You got any cigarettes?

876
01:03:00,362 --> 01:03:03,157
Hear anything from Sylvia?

877
01:03:05,325 --> 01:03:07,911
You really like her, don't you?

878
01:03:08,787 --> 01:03:11,707
She's not good for you, Honey.

879
01:03:13,876 --> 01:03:16,462
You know, when she's gonna be back?

880
01:03:18,172 --> 01:03:23,302
Ricky, I told you, she wont
have anything to do with you.

881
01:03:23,635 --> 01:03:26,597
She's to busy with other boys.

882
01:03:27,431 --> 01:03:30,642
That's why I had to
send her to juve.

883
01:03:31,894 --> 01:03:33,520
Hand me that!

884
01:03:37,107 --> 01:03:39,068
- Get!
- Alright, I'll go.

885
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:46,867
Here's your money.

886
01:03:47,117 --> 01:03:49,078
Thank you, baby.

887
01:03:49,078 --> 01:03:50,621
Paula...

888
01:03:52,081 --> 01:03:56,585
Honey! You are a good daughter,
I'm so proud of you.

889
01:03:57,378 --> 01:04:01,924
It don't matter what people say,
you'd be holdin' your head up high.

890
01:04:02,966 --> 01:04:05,386
We're gettin' through this.

891
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,264
What about Sylvia?

892
01:04:13,394 --> 01:04:15,396
Look...

893
01:04:15,646 --> 01:04:18,023
I've been praying...

894
01:04:19,024 --> 01:04:21,151
and I think, maybe it's time
to forgive her.

895
01:04:21,151 --> 01:04:23,987
I think, she's learned her lesson.

896
01:04:24,113 --> 01:04:27,491
Their are things in life,
we have to do...

897
01:04:27,491 --> 01:04:29,993
whate'er we like it or not.

898
01:04:31,328 --> 01:04:34,581
Well, I don't want any part of it.

899
01:04:36,041 --> 01:04:37,876
Paula.

900
01:04:39,336 --> 01:04:41,338
Paula?

901
01:04:41,338 --> 01:04:44,591
Come down here and talk to me!

902
01:05:08,866 --> 01:05:12,327
Hey, Sylvia? I'm not
gonna hurt you, okay?

903
01:05:12,327 --> 01:05:14,872
I'm not gonna hurt you.

904
01:05:29,094 --> 01:05:32,723
I know what it's like
to be sick, Sylvia.

905
01:05:45,110 --> 01:05:48,322
I've been sick for so long, too.

906
01:05:50,449 --> 01:05:52,826
I can't...

907
01:05:52,910 --> 01:05:56,747
discipline my kids,
the way that I should.

908
01:06:00,042 --> 01:06:03,379
I'm punishing you I known, but...

909
01:06:03,462 --> 01:06:05,422
sometimes, when I take medicine...

910
01:06:05,422 --> 01:06:08,509
it's like, if I don't
know what I'm doing.

911
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,810
And I care for you, so much.

912
01:06:24,817 --> 01:06:27,486
With Paula, the thing is...

913
01:06:28,987 --> 01:06:31,990
Paula is a lot like me.

914
01:06:34,159 --> 01:06:38,455
I had her, when I was,
just about your age.

915
01:06:43,460 --> 01:06:47,297
And then along came, Stephanie...

916
01:06:49,216 --> 01:06:51,927
and then all the others.

917
01:06:55,347 --> 01:06:56,724
And...

918
01:06:56,724 --> 01:06:59,768
then John left.

919
01:07:07,484 --> 01:07:10,320
And here I am, just huh...

920
01:07:13,032 --> 01:07:16,869
doing everything I can,
to keep my Family together.

921
01:07:18,370 --> 01:07:21,665
I want something better for Paula.

922
01:07:26,378 --> 01:07:29,214
There has to be something better.

923
01:07:41,852 --> 01:07:45,564
And I need to protect my children.

924
01:07:48,692 --> 01:07:51,528
Do you understand that?

925
01:07:52,154 --> 01:07:54,365
These kids...

926
01:07:54,990 --> 01:07:57,493
they're all I've got.

927
01:08:16,804 --> 01:08:18,764
Thank you, Sylvia.

928
01:08:22,601 --> 01:08:24,186
Thank you.

929
01:08:24,186 --> 01:08:27,189
Thank you, for understanding, okay?

930
01:08:27,189 --> 01:08:28,732
Thank you.

931
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:42,287
Oh, lord.

932
01:08:42,788 --> 01:08:44,581
Okay.

933
01:08:48,711 --> 01:08:50,754
Hello, Reverend.

934
01:08:54,550 --> 01:08:56,093
I've been meaning to
come by and visit...

935
01:08:56,093 --> 01:08:58,554
but, when Paula came to the
church and talk to me...

936
01:08:58,554 --> 01:09:00,431
it just pushed me a little.

937
01:09:00,431 --> 01:09:03,892
Now, what's that girl
been bothering you with?

938
01:09:06,311 --> 01:09:10,190
Well, she's concerned about you
and the whole house.

939
01:09:10,190 --> 01:09:14,319
And, huh... there's something else.

940
01:09:14,528 --> 01:09:17,281
I think, Paula may be pregnant.

941
01:09:17,406 --> 01:09:20,534
Now, I'm prepared to offer
what support I can...

942
01:09:20,534 --> 01:09:22,578
but, I can't speak for
the entire congregation.

943
01:09:22,578 --> 01:09:24,246
Reverend, I'm sorry, thank you...

944
01:09:24,246 --> 01:09:28,584
but, it's a vicious lie and rumor...

945
01:09:28,584 --> 01:09:30,586
spread by that Likens' girl.

946
01:09:30,586 --> 01:09:31,754
Gertrude...

947
01:09:31,754 --> 01:09:33,672
Paula, talked to me herself.

948
01:09:33,672 --> 01:09:35,132
Well, Reverend,
I don't understand that.

949
01:09:35,132 --> 01:09:36,967
I'll try to get to the bottom
of that with Paula...

950
01:09:36,967 --> 01:09:40,596
but Sylvia has been a very bad
influence on her...

951
01:09:40,596 --> 01:09:42,765
since she came in to my house.

952
01:09:42,765 --> 01:09:44,600
And I have...

953
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,144
I just can not
discipline that girl.

954
01:09:47,144 --> 01:09:49,646
<i>Well, she did mention,
Sylvia is around...</i>

955
01:09:49,646 --> 01:09:52,066
but wasn't clear, she said
there were some problems...

956
01:09:52,066 --> 01:09:54,610
and I haven't seen Sylvia,
in church in weeks...

957
01:09:54,610 --> 01:09:57,446
so I thought, I just should
sit down and talk with her.

958
01:09:57,613 --> 01:10:00,657
I'm afraid, I had to
send her to juvenile.

959
01:10:00,908 --> 01:10:04,328
I just could not handle that girl.

960
01:10:04,328 --> 01:10:05,954
I caught her stealing from me...

961
01:10:05,954 --> 01:10:07,414
Have you spoken with
her parents about this?

962
01:10:07,414 --> 01:10:09,875
I tried, I, huh... I wrote
them, I've called...

963
01:10:09,875 --> 01:10:12,294
I haven't gotten a responds.

964
01:10:12,294 --> 01:10:14,004
Honestly, now I can understand...

965
01:10:14,004 --> 01:10:16,131
why they just dropped
her with me.

966
01:10:16,131 --> 01:10:17,508
I see.

967
01:10:17,508 --> 01:10:19,176
I just can go by the
juvenile center...

968
01:10:19,176 --> 01:10:21,345
and speak to Sylvia myself.

969
01:10:21,345 --> 01:10:23,305
I'll try to arrange that.

970
01:10:23,305 --> 01:10:25,516
- Hi, uncle Bill.
- Hello, Reverend.

971
01:10:25,516 --> 01:10:27,518
Hey, kids.

972
01:10:27,559 --> 01:10:30,479
Why don't you take
little Kenny, please!

973
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,856
We can continue this
discussion later.

974
01:10:32,856 --> 01:10:34,942
Thank you, Reverend.

975
01:10:39,947 --> 01:10:42,366
I'll see you on Sunday then.

976
01:10:42,366 --> 01:10:45,411
<i>I'm excepting you in my
office before the end of the week.</i>

977
01:10:45,411 --> 01:10:47,830
We need to talk about this.

978
01:10:48,038 --> 01:10:49,498
Sure, Reverend.

979
01:10:49,498 --> 01:10:51,417
Okay, Gertrude.

980
01:11:00,926 --> 01:11:03,095
Don't you have any sense?

981
01:11:05,556 --> 01:11:09,101
- I'm doing this for you!
- Let go off me!

982
01:11:15,983 --> 01:11:18,861
I want everybody in the basement!

983
01:11:24,700 --> 01:11:26,368
You know why you're here.

984
01:11:26,368 --> 01:11:28,287
Sylvia!

985
01:11:35,961 --> 01:11:38,881
Ricky, she came back.

986
01:11:39,131 --> 01:11:41,800
She came back from juvenile...

987
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,219
then she started trouble again.

988
01:11:44,303 --> 01:11:45,804
Stop it!

989
01:11:47,765 --> 01:11:49,183
Johnny, hold her!

990
01:11:49,183 --> 01:11:50,726
No, please! Please!

991
01:11:50,726 --> 01:11:52,269
Hold her still!

992
01:11:52,269 --> 01:11:54,646
Sylvia, if you keep moving,
it'll only be messy.

993
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:57,107
Light that!

994
01:11:57,107 --> 01:12:00,319
No! No! No!

995
01:12:00,319 --> 01:12:02,404
No! No! No!

996
01:12:02,738 --> 01:12:05,157
Please! Please! Please!

997
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:07,201
- Stop it!
- Is this alright, Mama?

998
01:12:07,201 --> 01:12:09,661
Make sure it's hot.

999
01:12:10,996 --> 01:12:13,290
- I'm sorry! I'm sorry!
- You Liar!

1000
01:12:13,290 --> 01:12:15,501
- No! No!
- Hey!

1001
01:12:15,626 --> 01:12:18,420
Please no! Please!

1002
01:12:20,214 --> 01:12:23,133
You branded my daughter.

1003
01:12:24,093 --> 01:12:26,970
Now, I'm gonna brand you.

1004
01:12:35,229 --> 01:12:37,022
Ricky!

1005
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:40,109
Come here! Finish it!

1006
01:12:42,111 --> 01:12:44,029
Gertie, I can't.

1007
01:12:44,363 --> 01:12:49,952
Ricky, she was with every boy,
but you.

1008
01:12:49,952 --> 01:12:52,287
You can't let her
get away with this.

1009
01:12:54,790 --> 01:12:56,917
Please, help me, Ricky.

1010
01:12:56,917 --> 01:12:58,794
Please! Please!

1011
01:12:58,961 --> 01:13:01,046
Good boy.

1012
01:13:02,089 --> 01:13:04,174
Ricky!

1013
01:13:08,012 --> 01:13:09,847
What does it say?

1014
01:13:10,389 --> 01:13:13,225
It says: "I'm a Prostitute...

1015
01:13:14,143 --> 01:13:15,853
and proud of it".

1016
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,986
NO! NO! Stop it! NO!

1017
01:13:38,292 --> 01:13:40,294
Sylvia.

1018
01:13:42,087 --> 01:13:44,465
You've gotta get outta here.

1019
01:13:44,923 --> 01:13:46,759
You gotta leave.

1020
01:13:46,759 --> 01:13:48,969
You gotta get away
from here, come!

1021
01:13:55,976 --> 01:13:58,270
Oh, I can't...

1022
01:14:03,567 --> 01:14:05,361
Shh...

1023
01:15:06,672 --> 01:15:08,173
Mama?

1024
01:15:10,342 --> 01:15:12,553
- You gotta get outta here!
- I don't no where to go.

1025
01:15:12,553 --> 01:15:14,346
You go find your parents.

1026
01:15:14,346 --> 01:15:15,514
And Jennie?

1027
01:15:15,514 --> 01:15:17,307
Jennie can take care of herself,
don't worry about her.

1028
01:15:17,307 --> 01:15:18,809
Paula?

1029
01:15:19,143 --> 01:15:20,477
No! No!

1030
01:15:20,477 --> 01:15:22,271
Go! Just go!

1031
01:15:22,271 --> 01:15:24,064
What're doing?

1032
01:15:24,231 --> 01:15:26,608
- Just let me go!
- Mama, stop!

1033
01:15:26,608 --> 01:15:28,861
- Stop it!
- What's going on?

1034
01:15:28,861 --> 01:15:31,196
Let's go in the house.

1035
01:15:46,003 --> 01:15:47,671
Sylvia!

1036
01:15:47,963 --> 01:15:50,924
Please, please don't hurt me!

1037
01:15:50,924 --> 01:15:52,676
No, no, no, no,
I'm not gonna hurt.

1038
01:15:52,676 --> 01:15:54,636
I swear to God.
I promise, I promise.

1039
01:15:54,636 --> 01:15:55,888
Look, I'm sorry.

1040
01:15:55,888 --> 01:15:57,973
I didn't know, what the hell
I was doing, alright?

1041
01:15:57,973 --> 01:16:00,142
But, you gotta believe me, please!

1042
01:16:00,142 --> 01:16:01,852
Please!

1043
01:16:02,519 --> 01:16:03,896
You wanna get outta here?

1044
01:16:03,896 --> 01:16:05,939
You wanna go? Let's go.

1045
01:16:05,939 --> 01:16:07,316
Come on.

1046
01:16:07,316 --> 01:16:09,276
Come on now, you're alright.

1047
01:16:14,073 --> 01:16:15,783
Where're we going?

1048
01:16:15,783 --> 01:16:17,618
I don't know.

1049
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:21,580
Police? You wanna go to the Police?
We can tell'm everything.

1050
01:16:21,705 --> 01:16:23,457
I just wanna go to my mom.

1051
01:16:23,457 --> 01:16:25,209
Where's your mama?

1052
01:16:25,709 --> 01:16:27,961
I think, she's in Portage.

1053
01:16:27,961 --> 01:16:30,130
We're going to Portage.

1054
01:16:31,674 --> 01:16:33,175
Damn it!

1055
01:16:40,432 --> 01:16:42,518
- Ricky?
- Oh my God!

1056
01:16:42,518 --> 01:16:44,395
We're going! We're going!

1057
01:17:08,669 --> 01:17:10,671
I'll come with you.

1058
01:17:11,088 --> 01:17:13,465
No, you gotta get back.

1059
01:17:16,135 --> 01:17:20,305
You gotta get back to Jennie, and
make sure nothing happens to her.

1060
01:17:23,017 --> 01:17:25,686
I wont let her out of my site.

1061
01:17:26,937 --> 01:17:28,897
Thank you, Ricky.

1062
01:18:13,067 --> 01:18:14,568
Daddy?

1063
01:18:16,487 --> 01:18:18,322
Cookie?

1064
01:18:18,572 --> 01:18:20,032
What're you doing here?

1065
01:18:20,032 --> 01:18:21,742
Dad!

1066
01:18:22,159 --> 01:18:25,204
Oh, my...
What happened to you?

1067
01:18:34,630 --> 01:18:36,674
Oh, my God.

1068
01:18:37,758 --> 01:18:39,760
Oh, my God.

1069
01:18:44,139 --> 01:18:46,225
They did this to you?

1070
01:18:49,853 --> 01:18:52,481
I'm so... so sorry.

1071
01:18:52,898 --> 01:18:55,484
I'm just so sorry,
I left you there.

1072
01:18:55,484 --> 01:18:57,152
We spoke to Jennie,
on the phone last week.

1073
01:18:57,152 --> 01:18:58,821
She said everything was fine.

1074
01:18:58,821 --> 01:19:01,323
She's scared of her.

1075
01:19:01,573 --> 01:19:03,534
We gotta go back.

1076
01:19:06,245 --> 01:19:08,622
Let's just talk in the car.

1077
01:19:08,789 --> 01:19:11,917
Everything�s gonna be
taking care of, Cookie.

1078
01:19:12,084 --> 01:19:14,336
You're with your family now.

1079
01:19:14,753 --> 01:19:18,590
Oh, Honey.
Mama's here now.

1080
01:19:24,346 --> 01:19:27,766
Hey, Honey! We're here.

1081
01:19:41,572 --> 01:19:43,574
You stay here, Cookie.

1082
01:19:43,574 --> 01:19:45,576
No, huh...

1083
01:19:47,453 --> 01:19:50,080
I gotta do this.

1084
01:19:51,999 --> 01:19:54,335
I'm just gonna go in.

1085
01:20:25,866 --> 01:20:28,410
She's not breathing, mama.

1086
01:20:28,410 --> 01:20:31,455
She'll wake up, okay?
Don't worry, son.

1087
01:20:31,455 --> 01:20:33,499
Wake up, please!

1088
01:20:33,665 --> 01:20:35,000
Stephanie?

1089
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,461
- She's not breathing!
- She's faking it.

1090
01:20:37,461 --> 01:20:40,214
Somebody, please do something!
Because she's not breathing!

1091
01:20:40,214 --> 01:20:42,800
- She's faking it.
- Johnny, bring that water?

1092
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,386
- Bring me some water, baby.
- Give me it!

1093
01:20:45,386 --> 01:20:46,637
She okay?

1094
01:20:46,637 --> 01:20:48,389
Please, somebody,
she's not breathing!

1095
01:20:48,389 --> 01:20:51,225
Liar, liar, liar, liar...

1096
01:20:51,225 --> 01:20:53,185
Mama, she's not faking it!

1097
01:20:53,185 --> 01:20:56,188
She came to my house,
and just told lies.

1098
01:20:56,188 --> 01:20:58,190
Stephanie, what's wrong?

1099
01:20:58,190 --> 01:21:00,025
Mama, we gotta do something!

1100
01:21:00,025 --> 01:21:02,986
Sweetie, mama, she's...

1101
01:21:03,654 --> 01:21:05,948
Please, Sylvia, please breath.

1102
01:21:05,948 --> 01:21:07,991
Sylvia?

1103
01:21:12,788 --> 01:21:15,207
Shirley, she'll be okay,
she'll be okay.

1104
01:21:15,207 --> 01:21:17,710
Somebody's gotta do something!
She's not breathing!

1105
01:21:17,710 --> 01:21:20,963
Shut up, Stephanie! She's lyin'!

1106
01:21:21,296 --> 01:21:23,382
She just lays there.

1107
01:21:23,382 --> 01:21:24,675
Oh, my god.

1108
01:21:24,675 --> 01:21:26,593
Ricky, do something!

1109
01:21:26,969 --> 01:21:28,637
Look out!

1110
01:21:28,971 --> 01:21:30,931
Here, try this.

1111
01:21:30,931 --> 01:21:32,641
Sylvia! Wake up!

1112
01:21:32,641 --> 01:21:34,059
- Come on, breath!
- Paula...

1113
01:21:34,059 --> 01:21:37,146
you go get Andy, baby,
he'll know what to do, okay?

1114
01:21:37,146 --> 01:21:38,856
Wake up, Sylvia!

1115
01:21:38,856 --> 01:21:40,858
She'll be okay,
she's just faking it.

1116
01:21:40,858 --> 01:21:42,484
Please, Sylvia, breath.

1117
01:21:42,484 --> 01:21:44,028
She's cold.

1118
01:21:44,028 --> 01:21:45,738
Somebody better call the police!

1119
01:21:45,738 --> 01:21:47,656
Don't call the police.

1120
01:21:47,656 --> 01:21:49,491
Just go!

1121
01:21:50,534 --> 01:21:52,828
She's not dying!

1122
01:21:52,828 --> 01:21:54,663
I'll go get more water,
colder this time!

1123
01:21:54,663 --> 01:21:57,374
Babies', come here...

1124
01:21:59,710 --> 01:22:01,962
She's lying, baby, She's just...

1125
01:22:01,962 --> 01:22:04,631
Mama, she's not faking it!

1126
01:22:13,724 --> 01:22:15,225
I need the police!

1127
01:22:15,225 --> 01:22:17,895
<i>Yeah, there maybe a
death girl in a house.</i>

1128
01:22:26,028 --> 01:22:27,654
She's dead.

1129
01:22:27,905 --> 01:22:29,865
Jesus Christ, Gertie.

1130
01:22:39,291 --> 01:22:41,043
What's the problem?

1131
01:22:41,043 --> 01:22:44,088
Get me out of here,
I'll tell you everything.

1132
01:22:48,926 --> 01:22:51,261
Jennie, did you ever see...

1133
01:22:51,261 --> 01:22:54,515
Sylvia do anything,
to Mrs. Baniszewski?

1134
01:22:56,058 --> 01:22:59,436
No. I didn't see anything.

1135
01:23:00,020 --> 01:23:03,065
Did you ever see her
do anything, to Paula?

1136
01:23:03,065 --> 01:23:04,983
No.

1137
01:23:05,609 --> 01:23:08,779
Did you ever see her do anything,
to Johnny Baniszewski?

1138
01:23:08,779 --> 01:23:10,656
No.

1139
01:23:13,325 --> 01:23:18,747
Jennie, you saw your
sister being hit...

1140
01:23:19,373 --> 01:23:21,458
beaten, struck.

1141
01:23:21,458 --> 01:23:24,545
Why did you not call the police?

1142
01:23:24,670 --> 01:23:28,882
Well, huh... Gertie dreaded me,
that if I told anybody...

1143
01:23:28,882 --> 01:23:31,552
I'd get the same treatment,
than Sylvia was getting.

1144
01:23:32,386 --> 01:23:35,514
You could have told anyone,
up and down on the street.

1145
01:23:36,015 --> 01:23:40,436
I was scared, and I guess,
I just...

1146
01:23:40,686 --> 01:23:44,732
did what she told me to do.
I wish, I hadn't.

1147
01:23:49,528 --> 01:23:52,031
Did you ever see Sylvia cry?

1148
01:23:58,829 --> 01:24:01,623
They said, she didn't
have any feelings...

1149
01:24:01,623 --> 01:24:04,376
but... I knew better.

1150
01:24:06,045 --> 01:24:09,506
I've seen her cry before.

1151
01:24:10,341 --> 01:24:14,803
I imagine, the reason
that she didn't cry, was...

1152
01:24:14,803 --> 01:24:18,182
because she didn't
have enough water.

1153
01:24:20,434 --> 01:24:23,520
<i>The trial lasted 24 days.</i>

1154
01:24:23,604 --> 01:24:26,815
Gertrude was the last
one to take the stand.

1155
01:24:26,815 --> 01:24:32,446
What was your physical condition
in July and August of last year?

1156
01:24:34,865 --> 01:24:37,493
Pretty run down, physically.

1157
01:24:38,077 --> 01:24:40,579
Pretty upset, mentally and emotionally.

1158
01:24:40,579 --> 01:24:42,664
What do you mean?

1159
01:24:43,707 --> 01:24:47,503
If you got as many children...

1160
01:24:47,711 --> 01:24:52,216
around your home,
all the time, as I do...

1161
01:24:52,216 --> 01:24:54,468
arguing and carrying on...

1162
01:24:54,468 --> 01:24:57,888
you'd be pretty upset,
mentally and emotionally too.

1163
01:24:57,888 --> 01:25:00,140
What medicine did you take?

1164
01:25:00,140 --> 01:25:03,936
Phenobarbital Sulfate,
and Coricidin.

1165
01:25:03,936 --> 01:25:06,897
I was trying to take
care of myself...

1166
01:25:06,897 --> 01:25:10,067
because I could not
afford to go to a doctor.

1167
01:25:10,317 --> 01:25:14,697
<i>Well, then, getting to
the 1st, week of September.</i>

1168
01:25:14,697 --> 01:25:17,825
Was there any change in your
physical condition...

1169
01:25:17,825 --> 01:25:20,244
or in the condition of that house?

1170
01:25:23,706 --> 01:25:25,624
No, Sir.

1171
01:25:25,874 --> 01:25:27,626
<i>What about the 3rd. week
of September...</i>

1172
01:25:27,626 --> 01:25:29,128
do you remember that?

1173
01:25:29,128 --> 01:25:32,172
You mean anything specific that
might happened in September?

1174
01:25:32,172 --> 01:25:34,508
Yes, anything specific.

1175
01:25:34,508 --> 01:25:36,468
The kids were fighting a lot.

1176
01:25:36,468 --> 01:25:39,138
The kids were fighting a lot?

1177
01:25:39,555 --> 01:25:42,433
My children and the
neighbor children...

1178
01:25:42,474 --> 01:25:45,185
were coming in,
and fight things over it.

1179
01:25:45,185 --> 01:25:49,815
My children fighting with other
children, so on and so fort.

1180
01:25:49,857 --> 01:25:52,484
What did you do,
when that was happening?

1181
01:25:54,236 --> 01:25:57,364
I did not see this, fighting then.

1182
01:25:57,573 --> 01:26:00,743
I was barely able to stay up at all.

1183
01:26:00,784 --> 01:26:04,288
I did not even feel
like getting up.

1184
01:26:04,955 --> 01:26:07,875
Did you have any knowledge,
of any mistreatment...

1185
01:26:07,875 --> 01:26:09,877
going on with Sylvia?

1186
01:26:11,503 --> 01:26:13,630
No, Sir.

1187
01:26:13,672 --> 01:26:18,761
Did you commit any indignity,
making marks on that girls body?

1188
01:26:19,553 --> 01:26:21,722
No, Sir.

1189
01:26:21,764 --> 01:26:24,558
Do you know, how those
wounds, got on her body?

1190
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:26,226
No, Sir.

1191
01:26:26,226 --> 01:26:29,521
You're telling the Jury,
you don't know who did it?

1192
01:26:31,398 --> 01:26:33,650
No.

1193
01:26:35,319 --> 01:26:37,863
Did you hear the testimony of Jennie?

1194
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:39,990
Yes, I did.

1195
01:26:39,990 --> 01:26:42,493
Did you hear, some of
your children state...

1196
01:26:42,493 --> 01:26:46,455
that before Sylvia died,
you started branding this girl?

1197
01:26:48,624 --> 01:26:50,417
Yes, I heard that.

1198
01:26:50,501 --> 01:26:52,419
Did they all lie?

1199
01:26:59,176 --> 01:27:01,428
That is right.

1200
01:27:01,428 --> 01:27:04,723
The fact is you're lying, isn't it?

1201
01:27:05,224 --> 01:27:07,601
No, Sir.

1202
01:27:10,270 --> 01:27:12,773
Did you hear John Baniszewski state...

1203
01:27:12,773 --> 01:27:17,152
that you burned her,
with matches and cigarettes?

1204
01:27:18,737 --> 01:27:20,823
Yes, I heard that statement.

1205
01:27:20,823 --> 01:27:23,325
Did he tell the truth?

1206
01:27:27,746 --> 01:27:30,499
He was not telling the truth.

1207
01:27:30,499 --> 01:27:32,668
No.

1208
01:27:34,586 --> 01:27:37,464
You're saying, you did not do it?

1209
01:27:38,382 --> 01:27:39,800
That's right.

1210
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:41,510
You were in bed,
a great deal of the time...

1211
01:27:41,510 --> 01:27:44,430
when the children were doing things,
you did not know, they were doing.

1212
01:27:44,430 --> 01:27:47,099
I imagine they were doing
a great deal of things...

1213
01:27:47,099 --> 01:27:48,475
that I did not know.

1214
01:27:48,475 --> 01:27:50,728
Why did Johnny lie?

1215
01:27:52,563 --> 01:27:55,733
I imagine, he is a pretty
scared little boy.

1216
01:27:55,733 --> 01:27:57,568
Are you scared?

1217
01:27:59,695 --> 01:28:03,949
I've been scared by a lot
of things, for a long time.

1218
01:28:04,742 --> 01:28:08,287
She sacrificed me,
to protect her children...

1219
01:28:08,287 --> 01:28:11,915
and sacrificed them,
to protect herself.

1220
01:28:33,854 --> 01:28:36,231
Will the accused, please rise!

1221
01:28:48,577 --> 01:28:51,914
We, the Jury, find
Gertrude Baniszewski...

1222
01:28:51,914 --> 01:28:54,166
guilty of 1st. degree murder...

1223
01:28:54,166 --> 01:28:57,002
sentencing her to life in prison.

1224
01:29:06,053 --> 01:29:08,555
The case got a lot of attention...

1225
01:29:09,890 --> 01:29:12,726
it even made Time Magazine.

1226
01:29:18,440 --> 01:29:20,025
And most people started talking...

1227
01:29:20,025 --> 01:29:22,861
about things, they used to ignore.

1228
01:29:24,071 --> 01:29:25,322
Thank you.

1229
01:29:25,322 --> 01:29:27,700
The others, were tried later.

1230
01:29:27,700 --> 01:29:29,743
Paula was found guilty
as an accomplice...

1231
01:29:29,743 --> 01:29:31,912
and served a couple of years.

1232
01:29:31,912 --> 01:29:35,582
She had that Baby,
and named it, Gertrude.

1233
01:29:35,749 --> 01:29:38,127
Johnny was convicted too.

1234
01:29:38,127 --> 01:29:39,628
He was the youngest inmate...

1235
01:29:39,628 --> 01:29:42,840
in the history, of the
Indiana State Reformatory.

1236
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,342
He would later become
a real Minister.

1237
01:29:45,342 --> 01:29:47,553
one way of telling
the story, I guess.

1238
01:29:47,886 --> 01:29:50,389
Ricky Hobbs, was found
guilty of man-slaughter...

1239
01:29:50,389 --> 01:29:53,642
he served time at the reformatory.

1240
01:29:53,642 --> 01:29:57,938
<i>He died at age 21,
of lung cancer.</i>

1241
01:29:58,856 --> 01:30:01,692
Coy, also served a couple of years...

1242
01:30:01,817 --> 01:30:03,652
He went on with a life of crime...

1243
01:30:03,652 --> 01:30:06,321
after he got released from prison.

1244
01:30:06,655 --> 01:30:10,159
I don't know, what happened,
to any of the rest of them.

1245
01:30:10,909 --> 01:30:12,870
Mom und Dad, went back on Tour...

1246
01:30:12,870 --> 01:30:16,373
<i>and left Jennie, with the
District Attorney and his Family.</i>

1247
01:30:16,373 --> 01:30:18,959
They helped her get back on her feet.

1248
01:30:21,879 --> 01:30:25,299
<i>Gertrude served 20 years
of her life sentence.</i>

1249
01:30:25,299 --> 01:30:29,094
She was released on parole in 1985.

1250
01:30:29,845 --> 01:30:33,015
Before she died 5 years later...

1251
01:30:33,015 --> 01:30:36,894
she took responsibility, for
everything that had happened.

1252
01:30:51,033 --> 01:30:53,327
I'm so sorry.

1253
01:31:04,004 --> 01:31:05,964
And me?

1254
01:31:07,508 --> 01:31:10,511
I returned to the carnival.

1255
01:31:10,928 --> 01:31:14,056
The only place, I always felt save.

1256
01:31:16,975 --> 01:31:19,561
Reverend Bill, used to say:

1257
01:31:19,561 --> 01:31:23,482
"For every situation,
God always has a plan".

1258
01:31:25,734 --> 01:31:30,239
I guess, I'm still trying
to figure out, what that plan was.