1 00:00:04,435 --> 00:00:06,407 Happy. That's the word. 2 00:00:06,432 --> 00:00:08,198 Happy that you won the election? 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,006 Yes. And very grateful 4 00:00:11,031 --> 00:00:13,132 to all those who shared my vision. 5 00:00:13,134 --> 00:00:16,001 It's really... a shared victory. 6 00:00:16,003 --> 00:00:19,061 A victory that becomes less improbable 7 00:00:19,086 --> 00:00:21,064 when you see Alicia Florrick in action. 8 00:00:21,089 --> 00:00:23,890 What do I love the most about coming to my law firm? 9 00:00:23,915 --> 00:00:26,849 Well, that's easy. The camaraderie. 10 00:00:27,017 --> 00:00:29,446 If Alicia Florrick's a legal powerhouse, 11 00:00:29,471 --> 00:00:32,706 it's because she commands the respect of her colleagues. 12 00:00:32,778 --> 00:00:34,944 But it wasn't always so. 13 00:00:34,969 --> 00:00:38,719 St. Alicia came by way of an arduous journey. 14 00:00:38,744 --> 00:00:41,263 - Can we do better than that one? - Yeah, tell me when. 15 00:00:45,362 --> 00:00:46,896 There. No, back one. 16 00:00:47,133 --> 00:00:48,987 Move in on it slowly. 17 00:00:52,367 --> 00:00:56,451 St. Alicia came by way of an arduous journey. 18 00:00:56,476 --> 00:00:59,911 One that took her from stay-at-home mom to scandal 19 00:00:59,936 --> 00:01:01,635 to lowly associate. 20 00:01:01,660 --> 00:01:04,516 The scandal photo... can we keep her in color 21 00:01:04,541 --> 00:01:06,592 and make everything else black and white? 22 00:01:10,813 --> 00:01:12,781 Yeah, great. Now back to the interview. 23 00:01:14,267 --> 00:01:16,367 Mom to lowly associate, 24 00:01:16,392 --> 00:01:20,429 to founding partner of one of Chicago's largest firms. 25 00:01:20,454 --> 00:01:22,427 How will my administration differ 26 00:01:22,452 --> 00:01:24,443 from that of my husband's? 27 00:01:24,468 --> 00:01:28,179 Well, it's not... I can't... I... 28 00:01:28,231 --> 00:01:29,722 No, cut the stumble. 29 00:01:32,776 --> 00:01:34,813 Chicago's largest firms. 30 00:01:34,838 --> 00:01:36,164 The better question? 31 00:01:36,189 --> 00:01:39,757 How will my administration be different from my predecessor? 32 00:01:39,782 --> 00:01:42,116 We will be accountable to victims, 33 00:01:42,141 --> 00:01:43,904 worthy of the public's trust. 34 00:01:43,947 --> 00:01:45,367 I'm sorry, Petra. I need to get 35 00:01:45,392 --> 00:01:47,306 Mrs. Florrick on the phone with the governor just for a moment. 36 00:01:47,331 --> 00:01:49,131 Sure, Eli. Anything for you. 37 00:01:49,156 --> 00:01:51,265 Going great, though. Love what you're doing. 38 00:01:51,290 --> 00:01:52,524 Aw, thanks. 39 00:01:52,549 --> 00:01:53,811 There's no one on the phone. 40 00:01:53,836 --> 00:01:56,121 Just turn around and pretend you're having a conversation. 41 00:01:56,146 --> 00:01:57,293 It's about the hack. 42 00:01:57,318 --> 00:01:59,041 Are you sure the e-mails are safe? 43 00:01:59,066 --> 00:02:00,801 We're hearing that they might still come out. 44 00:02:00,826 --> 00:02:01,871 Hearing from whom? 45 00:02:01,896 --> 00:02:03,262 I heard Diane and Cary talking. 46 00:02:03,287 --> 00:02:04,621 - You want some crackers? - No. 47 00:02:04,646 --> 00:02:06,613 The hackers want an apology from the firm. 48 00:02:07,023 --> 00:02:08,855 Well, we already resolved it. 49 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,747 I mean, we can't publicly condone piracy. 50 00:02:10,774 --> 00:02:12,959 You don't have to. "We regret any implication 51 00:02:12,984 --> 00:02:15,466 that the blah-blah-blah shareware is not legitimate." You know. 52 00:02:15,491 --> 00:02:16,957 I have to consult my partners. 53 00:02:16,982 --> 00:02:18,528 Well, the deadline's at the end of the week, 54 00:02:18,553 --> 00:02:20,887 or the e-mails go wide, so consult fast. 55 00:02:21,281 --> 00:02:22,837 Thank you. 56 00:02:23,439 --> 00:02:24,811 Set? 57 00:02:24,836 --> 00:02:26,698 Yes, yes. Sorry about that. 58 00:02:26,723 --> 00:02:28,033 - No, no, no. - All set. 59 00:02:28,058 --> 00:02:30,124 I was thinking of using this stuff for the sit-down. 60 00:02:30,149 --> 00:02:32,406 It looks way better than the first time she sat down. 61 00:02:32,431 --> 00:02:33,697 I didn't... 62 00:02:34,215 --> 00:02:36,717 I didn't shake her hand that time. 63 00:02:40,922 --> 00:02:43,765 _ 64 00:02:44,827 --> 00:02:46,086 _ 65 00:02:49,343 --> 00:02:51,133 _ 66 00:02:51,158 --> 00:02:52,859 And we will be transparent. 67 00:02:52,884 --> 00:02:56,919 Accountable to victims, worthy of the public's trust. 68 00:02:58,780 --> 00:03:00,193 Where'd you get these? 69 00:03:00,218 --> 00:03:02,015 - An anonymous source. - They're hacked? 70 00:03:02,058 --> 00:03:04,925 Yes. Alicia Florrick's hacked e-mails from the past five years. 71 00:03:04,927 --> 00:03:05,960 You have to read them. 72 00:03:05,985 --> 00:03:07,851 - Thought this was a puff piece. - It was. 73 00:03:07,876 --> 00:03:09,970 People don't like when you tear down their heroes. 74 00:03:09,995 --> 00:03:11,394 Are you kidding? 75 00:03:11,419 --> 00:03:12,718 That's what they live for. 76 00:03:13,068 --> 00:03:14,868 I need independent corroboration. 77 00:03:14,870 --> 00:03:16,969 Talk to her firm, confirm they've been hacked. 78 00:03:16,994 --> 00:03:18,494 Yes, we did have an attack 79 00:03:18,519 --> 00:03:20,986 on our e-mail services, but we have since... 80 00:03:21,011 --> 00:03:22,600 Petra Moritz. 81 00:03:22,854 --> 00:03:25,564 But we have since repelled that attack. 82 00:03:25,987 --> 00:03:28,433 No, it's had absolutely no impact... 83 00:03:28,458 --> 00:03:30,539 Okay, Daddy just needs a minute, 84 00:03:30,564 --> 00:03:32,329 so I need you guys to sit quietly. 85 00:03:32,354 --> 00:03:33,754 Come on. Charlie, come on. 86 00:03:33,756 --> 00:03:36,161 Ms. Sharma, hello. Good to see you again. 87 00:03:36,186 --> 00:03:38,305 You, too, Mr. Wiley. What are you up to today? 88 00:03:38,330 --> 00:03:40,733 Oh, just, you know, the usual... making trouble. 89 00:03:41,839 --> 00:03:44,191 - See you later. - Bye. 90 00:03:44,216 --> 00:03:46,577 Yes, well, he's in with a client right now. 91 00:03:46,602 --> 00:03:50,070 Sure, I'd be happy to send you to voice mail if that's okay. 92 00:03:50,095 --> 00:03:52,185 That's no problem at all. 93 00:03:52,210 --> 00:03:54,903 Thank you very much. That'll be 10:00 tomorrow? 94 00:03:57,621 --> 00:04:00,221 Florrick, Agos and Lockhart. 95 00:04:06,887 --> 00:04:08,788 Hey, everything all right? 96 00:04:08,790 --> 00:04:11,687 Yes, I just have to meet this Mr. Dipple at his think tank. 97 00:04:11,712 --> 00:04:13,121 No, I mean in there. 98 00:04:13,146 --> 00:04:15,871 Oh, yes. Andrew Wiley. You know, the investigator? 99 00:04:15,896 --> 00:04:17,326 Yeah. What's he asking? 100 00:04:17,351 --> 00:04:18,950 He's working with Internal Affairs. 101 00:04:18,975 --> 00:04:21,894 Looking into Detective Prima and how he set up Cary. 102 00:04:21,919 --> 00:04:23,265 Brady Violation. 103 00:04:23,290 --> 00:04:25,244 Yeah, and how he entrapped Cary, too. 104 00:04:25,269 --> 00:04:27,435 Well, they're finding that harder to prove. 105 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,567 - Why is he talking to us? - They want to find out 106 00:04:30,592 --> 00:04:32,762 how we discovered that e-mail from Canada. 107 00:04:32,787 --> 00:04:34,308 The one that Prima deleted. 108 00:04:34,333 --> 00:04:36,166 They want to prosecute him for this. 109 00:04:36,191 --> 00:04:37,798 See you. 110 00:04:42,354 --> 00:04:44,723 - Hi. - Hey. 111 00:04:44,748 --> 00:04:45,817 Can I help you? 112 00:04:45,842 --> 00:04:49,068 Yeah, I need some legal advice. 113 00:04:49,729 --> 00:04:51,301 Okay. 114 00:04:51,326 --> 00:04:54,201 Hypothetically, a cop is going to prison 115 00:04:54,233 --> 00:04:55,601 for something that he didn't do. 116 00:04:55,626 --> 00:04:56,811 Someone else did it. 117 00:04:56,836 --> 00:05:00,011 But there's a lawyer who made misrepresentations 118 00:05:00,036 --> 00:05:02,471 based on... on, um... 119 00:05:02,496 --> 00:05:03,896 - I... - Just... 120 00:05:04,031 --> 00:05:06,398 Don't use names, and I'm fine. 121 00:05:07,010 --> 00:05:10,417 Look... Someone is guilty 122 00:05:10,442 --> 00:05:12,257 of faking evidence, 123 00:05:12,282 --> 00:05:15,061 but a lawyer who did not fake that evidence, 124 00:05:15,086 --> 00:05:16,936 and, in fact, thought it to be true, 125 00:05:16,961 --> 00:05:18,258 presented it in court. 126 00:05:18,283 --> 00:05:20,764 Now, is that lawyer in trouble? 127 00:05:20,789 --> 00:05:22,927 What, for using the faked evidence? 128 00:05:22,952 --> 00:05:25,043 Yeah. Even though she didn't know that it was fake? 129 00:05:25,068 --> 00:05:26,734 Yes. 130 00:05:26,867 --> 00:05:28,500 Ignorance is irrelevant. 131 00:05:28,525 --> 00:05:31,226 The lawyer could be disbarred or even go to prison. 132 00:05:33,223 --> 00:05:35,724 Okay, and... 133 00:05:36,539 --> 00:05:40,391 what if that person who faked the evidence swore 134 00:05:40,416 --> 00:05:41,772 to the lawyer's innocence? 135 00:05:41,797 --> 00:05:44,631 Doesn't matter. It's strict liability. 136 00:05:46,068 --> 00:05:47,509 Okay. 137 00:05:49,126 --> 00:05:50,759 Anything else? 138 00:05:50,784 --> 00:05:53,514 No. That's enough. Thank you. 139 00:05:53,809 --> 00:05:55,321 Sure. 140 00:06:01,644 --> 00:06:03,344 Diane, 141 00:06:03,346 --> 00:06:06,006 you brave soul, welcome to the Plenary Institute. 142 00:06:06,031 --> 00:06:07,764 - How am I brave? - Liberal lawyer 143 00:06:07,766 --> 00:06:10,527 in this lion's den of conservatism? 144 00:06:10,552 --> 00:06:13,607 A lion's den is perfectly safe when you have God on your side. 145 00:06:13,632 --> 00:06:16,545 Ah, there she is, quoting the Bible. Diane, 146 00:06:16,570 --> 00:06:19,338 may I introduce Max Gauls, Cole-Harberts-Greyson? 147 00:06:19,363 --> 00:06:21,535 - Nice to meet you. - Justin Partridge of Simkins-Wilde. 148 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:22,960 - It's so good to meet you. - Diane, 149 00:06:22,985 --> 00:06:25,452 - have a seat right over here. - Okay. 150 00:06:25,477 --> 00:06:27,210 So, what am I doing? 151 00:06:27,235 --> 00:06:29,551 Aside from picking up your retainer check? 152 00:06:29,576 --> 00:06:31,276 I need a liberal viewpoint. 153 00:06:31,534 --> 00:06:32,867 On? 154 00:06:32,892 --> 00:06:34,324 Gay marriage. 155 00:06:34,349 --> 00:06:36,216 You're the devil's advocate. 156 00:06:36,241 --> 00:06:38,420 - In what way? - We're trying to decide 157 00:06:38,445 --> 00:06:40,652 whether to fund a case on gay marriage 158 00:06:40,677 --> 00:06:42,096 and religious accommodation. 159 00:06:42,121 --> 00:06:44,710 - And what is the case? - In May of 2014, 160 00:06:44,735 --> 00:06:46,970 Jane Armisen, a baker in California, 161 00:06:46,995 --> 00:06:48,998 was asked to bake a cake for a gay wedding. 162 00:06:51,263 --> 00:06:53,881 She refused, citing religious objections 163 00:06:53,906 --> 00:06:57,117 to supporting gay marriage, and was sued for discrimination. 164 00:06:57,142 --> 00:06:58,799 - She lost. - And you're wondering whether 165 00:06:58,824 --> 00:07:00,463 to take up this baker's appeal? 166 00:07:00,488 --> 00:07:03,055 - Yup. - No. 167 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,214 - Obviously. - Well, that's not surprising. 168 00:07:05,239 --> 00:07:07,972 Well, it's not because I'm a liberal. 169 00:07:07,997 --> 00:07:10,676 It's because... you won't win. 170 00:07:10,701 --> 00:07:12,301 I mean, this was a plain wedding cake? 171 00:07:12,326 --> 00:07:14,134 There was nothing about the cake itself 172 00:07:14,159 --> 00:07:16,258 that was offensive to the baker? 173 00:07:16,283 --> 00:07:18,456 That's correct. It's the fact it would have been used 174 00:07:18,481 --> 00:07:21,071 in a ceremony she believes dishonored her religious creed. 175 00:07:21,096 --> 00:07:22,153 But this baker 176 00:07:22,178 --> 00:07:25,134 advertises to the public that she makes these wedding cakes, 177 00:07:25,159 --> 00:07:26,562 and she will sell 178 00:07:26,587 --> 00:07:28,206 these wedding cakes to anyone, 179 00:07:28,231 --> 00:07:29,731 just not gay people. 180 00:07:30,342 --> 00:07:31,633 I'm sorry, 181 00:07:31,658 --> 00:07:33,838 - but that's not a strong case. - Well, the Constitution 182 00:07:33,863 --> 00:07:35,956 guarantees her the free exercise of religion. 183 00:07:35,981 --> 00:07:39,194 And California's Civil Rights Act forbids discrimination 184 00:07:39,219 --> 00:07:40,305 against LGBT people. 185 00:07:40,330 --> 00:07:42,549 So, we have two competing freedoms. 186 00:07:42,574 --> 00:07:45,978 Businesses are allowed to refuse service to anyone. 187 00:07:46,003 --> 00:07:48,453 With certain exceptions to that right. 188 00:07:48,478 --> 00:07:50,144 It cannot be based on race, 189 00:07:50,169 --> 00:07:52,925 color, religion or sexual orientation. 190 00:07:52,950 --> 00:07:55,667 - In some states, sexual orientation. - In many states. 191 00:07:55,692 --> 00:07:57,737 Well, but there are exceptions to the exceptions. 192 00:07:57,762 --> 00:07:59,061 What did Thomas Jefferson say? 193 00:07:59,086 --> 00:08:01,179 "Among the most inestimable 194 00:08:01,204 --> 00:08:03,651 "of our blessings is that of liberty 195 00:08:03,676 --> 00:08:05,331 "to worship our Creator 196 00:08:05,356 --> 00:08:07,777 in a way we think would be agreeable to Him." 197 00:08:07,802 --> 00:08:10,240 It's no different from conscientious objectors to war. 198 00:08:10,265 --> 00:08:11,568 I'm sorry to be blunt. 199 00:08:11,593 --> 00:08:13,564 I know you come to your opinions honestly. 200 00:08:13,589 --> 00:08:14,886 Well, it's not just my opinion. 201 00:08:14,911 --> 00:08:17,284 The Religious Freedom Restoration Act allows 202 00:08:17,309 --> 00:08:20,093 - exemptions in anti-discrimination laws. - Not in California. 203 00:08:20,118 --> 00:08:22,244 - California does not have one. - Well, let's say 204 00:08:22,269 --> 00:08:23,552 we're not in California. 205 00:08:23,577 --> 00:08:25,310 Let's say we're in Colorado. 206 00:08:26,905 --> 00:08:29,844 Okay, well, we're not in Colorado, but RFRA 207 00:08:29,869 --> 00:08:31,477 would not be your friend there, either. 208 00:08:31,502 --> 00:08:33,256 So, let's say it's in New Mexico. 209 00:08:33,281 --> 00:08:34,464 It doesn't matter. 210 00:08:34,489 --> 00:08:36,083 The baker's refusing 211 00:08:36,108 --> 00:08:37,449 to sell a wedding cake 212 00:08:37,474 --> 00:08:39,274 to a gay couple for who they are. 213 00:08:39,653 --> 00:08:41,662 That is the heart of discrimination. 214 00:08:41,687 --> 00:08:44,581 What if our baker won't sell a wedding cake to a gay couple, 215 00:08:44,606 --> 00:08:47,193 but he will sell them bear claws? 216 00:08:47,218 --> 00:08:48,533 - Cupcakes? - That's right. 217 00:08:48,558 --> 00:08:50,952 She isn't, in fact, refusing to serve homosexuals. 218 00:08:50,977 --> 00:08:52,643 She just won't do the one thing 219 00:08:52,668 --> 00:08:54,556 her religion says is a sin. 220 00:08:55,981 --> 00:08:57,067 Okay. 221 00:08:57,092 --> 00:08:58,440 That's a good point. 222 00:08:59,672 --> 00:09:02,668 Great. Let's take a little break. 223 00:09:02,931 --> 00:09:06,232 So, um, where is Diane Lockhart? 224 00:09:06,257 --> 00:09:07,312 I'm sorry? 225 00:09:07,337 --> 00:09:08,770 "That's a good point"? 226 00:09:09,069 --> 00:09:10,614 - It was a good point. - No, it wasn't. 227 00:09:10,639 --> 00:09:12,958 - You know it wasn't. - Well, you wanted me to help. 228 00:09:12,983 --> 00:09:14,219 No, I want you to fight. 229 00:09:14,244 --> 00:09:16,682 I want you to convince me this is a loser case. 230 00:09:16,707 --> 00:09:18,841 If you're worried about offending me, don't. 231 00:09:18,866 --> 00:09:20,932 I have a gay nephew, okay? 232 00:09:20,957 --> 00:09:23,758 Love my gay nephew, want him to be happy. 233 00:09:23,878 --> 00:09:27,113 I just don't happen to believe in gay marriage. You do. 234 00:09:27,138 --> 00:09:30,099 - Convince me I'm wrong. - Go for the jugular? 235 00:09:30,124 --> 00:09:32,492 Right there, ma'am. Right there. 236 00:09:32,517 --> 00:09:36,052 That's insane. Selling someone something they don't want is 237 00:09:36,077 --> 00:09:38,328 the same thing as refusing them service altogether. 238 00:09:38,353 --> 00:09:41,478 - No, it isn't. You can't even... - A vegetarian couple walks into a market, 239 00:09:41,503 --> 00:09:43,137 and you refuse to sell them vegetables. 240 00:09:43,162 --> 00:09:45,714 In fact, you'll sell them anything but vegetables. 241 00:09:45,739 --> 00:09:47,724 You are effectively denying them service. 242 00:09:47,749 --> 00:09:49,830 A gay couple wants to buy a wedding cake, 243 00:09:49,855 --> 00:09:51,902 and you refuse to sell them a wedding cake. 244 00:09:53,752 --> 00:09:56,291 The camaraderie, the relationships 245 00:09:56,316 --> 00:09:58,850 I've built here... it's what makes coming to work a joy. 246 00:09:58,875 --> 00:10:00,802 Relationships that have been built 247 00:10:00,827 --> 00:10:03,287 with some difficulty... apparently. 248 00:10:03,312 --> 00:10:04,678 Now cut to the e-mail. 249 00:10:04,743 --> 00:10:06,877 Float it in, Star Wars style. 250 00:10:09,885 --> 00:10:11,819 Alicia Florrick to a coworker: 251 00:10:11,844 --> 00:10:13,744 "It's all about money to them. 252 00:10:13,769 --> 00:10:16,103 The partners don't give a damn about us." 253 00:10:16,128 --> 00:10:17,459 Float in the second e-mail. 254 00:10:18,194 --> 00:10:20,512 "The partners don't give a damn about us." 255 00:10:20,819 --> 00:10:22,663 Two of her coworkers write: 256 00:10:22,688 --> 00:10:24,688 "Alicia is a perfect example 257 00:10:24,713 --> 00:10:26,655 of someone sleeping her way to the top." 258 00:10:26,680 --> 00:10:28,213 Now change the music. 259 00:10:30,428 --> 00:10:32,816 "It's all about money to them. 260 00:10:32,841 --> 00:10:35,253 The partners don't give a damn about us." 261 00:10:35,322 --> 00:10:37,295 Two of her coworkers write: 262 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,418 "Alicia is a perfect example 263 00:10:39,443 --> 00:10:41,748 of someone sleeping her way to the top." 264 00:10:42,551 --> 00:10:44,179 _ 265 00:10:44,179 --> 00:10:45,500 _ 266 00:10:47,256 --> 00:10:49,256 The Good Wife 6x18 Loser Edit 267 00:10:49,385 --> 00:10:52,652 Sync and corrections by Albanda www.Addic7ed.com 268 00:11:01,089 --> 00:11:02,909 Mrs. Florrick, I want to thank you 269 00:11:02,934 --> 00:11:05,165 for agreeing to sit down for a second interview. 270 00:11:05,190 --> 00:11:07,397 - Absolutely. - We just need clarification 271 00:11:07,422 --> 00:11:08,584 on a few things. 272 00:11:08,609 --> 00:11:10,209 Mrs. Florrick, you returned 273 00:11:10,234 --> 00:11:13,022 to the practice of law after 12 years... 274 00:11:13,047 --> 00:11:15,689 - Thirteen. - 13 years. Sorry. 275 00:11:15,916 --> 00:11:17,415 And you walk 276 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,075 into this law firm, full of old bulls 277 00:11:21,100 --> 00:11:24,083 - and young tigers. Were you nervous? - Very. 278 00:11:24,108 --> 00:11:28,012 And the only person you knew at all was Will Gardner. 279 00:11:28,037 --> 00:11:29,836 - Yes. - The two of you 280 00:11:29,861 --> 00:11:32,600 wound up becoming quite close, didn't you? 281 00:11:33,999 --> 00:11:35,541 Will was a terrific lawyer. 282 00:11:35,566 --> 00:11:37,633 He was smart, creative. 283 00:11:37,658 --> 00:11:39,491 Zealous in the best sense of the word. 284 00:11:39,516 --> 00:11:40,949 Maybe more importantly, 285 00:11:40,974 --> 00:11:43,608 a... a trusted friend? 286 00:11:45,252 --> 00:11:46,639 Yes. 287 00:11:46,664 --> 00:11:50,751 And after May 2010, perhaps even more so? 288 00:11:50,776 --> 00:11:53,101 Apologies. I just need to borrow Alicia for a moment. 289 00:11:53,126 --> 00:11:55,431 I forgot to get an answer on something time-sensitive. 290 00:11:57,181 --> 00:11:58,970 She has the e-mails. 291 00:11:58,995 --> 00:12:01,062 - Or the photos. - No, she said May 2010. 292 00:12:01,087 --> 00:12:03,235 - That's the e-mails. - What e-mails? What are we talking about? 293 00:12:03,260 --> 00:12:04,673 - How bad? - Give her your phone. 294 00:12:04,698 --> 00:12:06,279 I'm calling this off. 295 00:12:07,871 --> 00:12:10,639 You're saying that a Hindu or a Muslim can enter a bake shop... 296 00:12:10,641 --> 00:12:12,975 - No, that isn't comparable. - Yes, it is. 297 00:12:12,977 --> 00:12:14,309 They're both protected classes. 298 00:12:14,311 --> 00:12:16,937 A Hindu can enter a bake shop 299 00:12:16,962 --> 00:12:18,271 and be denied a wedding cake. 300 00:12:18,296 --> 00:12:20,448 No, no, because that is denial of a class of people. 301 00:12:20,473 --> 00:12:22,673 - Exactly. Like gays. - No, that is the 302 00:12:22,698 --> 00:12:25,766 - denial of an activity. Of the marriage. - Which is just 303 00:12:25,791 --> 00:12:28,632 - a pretext for discrimination. - What if it weren't a blank wedding cake? 304 00:12:28,657 --> 00:12:31,591 - Yes, but that's not what happened. - I know that. 305 00:12:31,616 --> 00:12:33,787 I'm trying to determine where religious freedom ends 306 00:12:33,812 --> 00:12:35,585 and antidiscrimination laws begin. 307 00:12:35,610 --> 00:12:38,014 What if Jane were asked to attach a figurine 308 00:12:38,039 --> 00:12:40,072 of two men holding hands? 309 00:12:40,152 --> 00:12:42,352 - Could she deny that service? - If she's offering 310 00:12:42,354 --> 00:12:44,583 the service of supplying figurines, 311 00:12:44,608 --> 00:12:46,508 then, no, she cannot deny that service. 312 00:12:46,533 --> 00:12:48,066 Well, what if she's asked to write on the cake 313 00:12:48,091 --> 00:12:49,781 "Congratulations, Roger and Carl"? 314 00:12:49,806 --> 00:12:51,527 Can she deny that because it's speech 315 00:12:51,552 --> 00:12:53,157 - she doesn't approve of? - Well, now we come around 316 00:12:53,198 --> 00:12:54,564 - to the free speech argument. - Well, 317 00:12:54,566 --> 00:12:56,133 you knew we were gonna end up there. 318 00:12:56,135 --> 00:12:57,400 Okay, well, here's the thing, 319 00:12:57,402 --> 00:12:58,855 it's not her speech. 320 00:12:59,152 --> 00:13:02,587 It's the speech of the person purchasing the service. 321 00:13:02,612 --> 00:13:04,178 I mean, imagine if she 322 00:13:04,203 --> 00:13:06,149 is a printer and a gay person 323 00:13:06,174 --> 00:13:07,780 comes in needing flyers. 324 00:13:07,805 --> 00:13:09,515 She cannot reject his business, 325 00:13:09,540 --> 00:13:11,841 even though the flyer may be advertising 326 00:13:11,866 --> 00:13:13,347 an LGBT meeting, 327 00:13:13,372 --> 00:13:16,095 because to reject him is to discriminate 328 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,213 - based on sexual preference. - Just as one 329 00:13:18,238 --> 00:13:20,705 - can't discriminate based on religion? - Exactly. 330 00:13:20,730 --> 00:13:24,997 So if a Christian walks into the cake shop and orders a cake 331 00:13:25,030 --> 00:13:27,130 that says "God sends gays to hell," 332 00:13:27,147 --> 00:13:29,276 does the baker have to write that on the wedding cake 333 00:13:29,301 --> 00:13:30,533 even if she doesn't approve of it? 334 00:13:30,535 --> 00:13:32,129 - No. - Because you find it offensive? 335 00:13:32,154 --> 00:13:37,057 No. Because the baker is not objecting to a religion 336 00:13:37,175 --> 00:13:39,026 but a point of view. 337 00:13:39,051 --> 00:13:40,954 - A hateful one at that. - But the purchaser 338 00:13:40,979 --> 00:13:43,684 finds it essential to his or her faith. I mean, 339 00:13:43,709 --> 00:13:45,220 isn't the Christian a protected class, 340 00:13:45,245 --> 00:13:46,844 with the same protection as gays? 341 00:13:53,004 --> 00:13:56,041 I'm sorry, there's been a slight hiccup 342 00:13:56,066 --> 00:13:57,098 in the investigation. 343 00:13:57,123 --> 00:13:58,523 What hiccup? 344 00:13:58,548 --> 00:14:00,867 Detective Prima deleted the e-mail 345 00:14:00,892 --> 00:14:03,376 from the Canadian authorities at 3:11 p.m. 346 00:14:03,401 --> 00:14:05,800 on August 28. That's the great thing 347 00:14:05,825 --> 00:14:07,269 about technology. You're never wondering, 348 00:14:07,294 --> 00:14:09,310 you know, when this or that happened. It's all right there 349 00:14:09,335 --> 00:14:11,402 - in black and white. - So, good. So, what's the problem? 350 00:14:11,427 --> 00:14:14,394 Timmy, Dora, less noise. Okay, here. 351 00:14:14,419 --> 00:14:16,937 Detective Prima was on the stand 352 00:14:17,108 --> 00:14:19,764 testifying in a burglary case 353 00:14:19,789 --> 00:14:23,291 from 2:38 p.m. to 5:30 p.m. on August 28, 354 00:14:23,316 --> 00:14:25,758 so, I mean, unless there's a mistake in the public record 355 00:14:25,783 --> 00:14:27,646 or in the e-mail metadata, 356 00:14:27,671 --> 00:14:29,549 - there is no possible way... - Ow! 357 00:14:29,574 --> 00:14:31,374 Hey, Dora, let go of Timmy's hair. 358 00:14:31,399 --> 00:14:32,916 There is no possible way 359 00:14:32,941 --> 00:14:35,620 - that Prima could have deleted the e-mail. - Okay, 360 00:14:35,645 --> 00:14:37,379 - so what's your theory? - Well, 361 00:14:37,404 --> 00:14:41,172 unfortunately, my theory involves ASA Geneva Pine, 362 00:14:41,197 --> 00:14:43,497 who was having an affair with Prima at the time. 363 00:14:43,666 --> 00:14:45,943 - You're kidding. - No. I mean, you know, 364 00:14:45,943 --> 00:14:47,053 she didn't tell anybody. 365 00:14:47,078 --> 00:14:48,769 You know. I mean, for... 366 00:14:48,794 --> 00:14:50,547 Sorry. 367 00:14:50,572 --> 00:14:53,862 Can you... For obvious reasons. Kids, Cheerios. 368 00:14:53,887 --> 00:14:55,550 You think she deleted the e-mail for Prima? 369 00:14:55,575 --> 00:14:57,421 Well, she was the only one in the department 370 00:14:57,446 --> 00:14:59,012 with access to his account. 371 00:14:59,078 --> 00:15:02,680 I was wondering if you guys had any other thoughts. 372 00:15:03,002 --> 00:15:06,278 Why would we have thoughts? 373 00:15:06,303 --> 00:15:07,536 I have no idea. 374 00:15:07,561 --> 00:15:08,697 Do you? 375 00:15:09,940 --> 00:15:11,326 No. 376 00:15:12,434 --> 00:15:14,362 Don't make me count to five. 377 00:15:14,387 --> 00:15:16,087 Will was a terrific lawyer. 378 00:15:16,112 --> 00:15:19,113 He was smart, creative. 379 00:15:19,209 --> 00:15:21,576 Zealous in the best sense of the word. 380 00:15:21,601 --> 00:15:23,632 June 2010. 381 00:15:23,787 --> 00:15:27,997 "Will, sometimes I worry this is wrong, you being my boss." 382 00:15:28,022 --> 00:15:29,662 Will to Alicia: 383 00:15:29,697 --> 00:15:32,364 "I know, but I can't get you out of my head. 384 00:15:32,364 --> 00:15:34,114 The touch of you, the taste." 385 00:15:34,139 --> 00:15:35,881 That's a long time to be on one image. 386 00:15:35,906 --> 00:15:38,504 Right. Cut to the scandal. 387 00:15:40,878 --> 00:15:43,278 Make her black and white, everything else in color. 388 00:15:45,119 --> 00:15:46,695 Alicia to Will: 389 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,165 "You were away at depos this week. All I could 390 00:15:49,190 --> 00:15:51,244 think about was your hands on me." 391 00:15:51,269 --> 00:15:53,044 "Sometimes this feels too dangerous." 392 00:15:53,069 --> 00:15:54,509 Editing. 393 00:15:55,890 --> 00:15:57,362 You'd better get out there. 394 00:15:57,387 --> 00:15:59,900 She is planning to use illegally obtained e-mails. 395 00:15:59,925 --> 00:16:01,581 - Not just use... - Broadcast. 396 00:16:01,606 --> 00:16:03,372 Which is so far beyond the pale, I can't believe Hey. 397 00:16:03,397 --> 00:16:04,863 - We're having this conversation. - I didn't hack 398 00:16:04,888 --> 00:16:06,593 her e-mails... I just received copies of them. 399 00:16:06,618 --> 00:16:08,874 - A distinction without a difference. - Well, no. The Supreme Court 400 00:16:08,899 --> 00:16:10,899 - has spoken to this. - Bartnicki v. Vopper. As long as we 401 00:16:10,924 --> 00:16:13,056 as we didn't steal the material, we have a First Amendment right 402 00:16:13,081 --> 00:16:15,264 - to publish it. - If it's a matter of public concern. 403 00:16:15,289 --> 00:16:17,690 - Mrs. Florrick is a public official now. - But that does not 404 00:16:17,715 --> 00:16:19,954 - strip her of her right to privacy. - Exactly. You use 405 00:16:19,979 --> 00:16:22,379 these private e-mails, sir, you and Petra, 406 00:16:22,404 --> 00:16:26,026 - you are, you know, blah-blah. - Co-conspirators. 407 00:16:26,051 --> 00:16:27,445 I'm sorry. You're wrong on the law. 408 00:16:27,470 --> 00:16:29,326 You can go after the hackers here but not us. 409 00:16:29,351 --> 00:16:31,121 There is a tort for the disclosure of private facts. 410 00:16:31,146 --> 00:16:32,916 - Well, then sue us after it airs. - Oh, 411 00:16:32,941 --> 00:16:35,575 come on, Charles. You made a speech 412 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,299 to the International Press Commission 413 00:16:37,324 --> 00:16:39,139 about the ethics of journalism. 414 00:16:39,164 --> 00:16:41,559 And now you're looking for cover to air this kind of, you know... 415 00:16:41,584 --> 00:16:44,441 Scurrilous, sexually charged innuendo, which, until today, 416 00:16:44,466 --> 00:16:46,103 was the stuff of tabloids and blogs. 417 00:16:46,128 --> 00:16:48,385 Which, it should be noted, is where you came from. 418 00:16:48,410 --> 00:16:51,044 Your righteous indignation is sweet, Eli, 419 00:16:51,219 --> 00:16:52,947 but you started this. 420 00:16:52,972 --> 00:16:55,840 - You created the myth of St. Alicia. - That is 421 00:16:55,865 --> 00:16:58,064 - absolutely not true. - You love to build people 422 00:16:58,089 --> 00:17:00,391 - up and then tear them down. - That is BS. 423 00:17:00,416 --> 00:17:02,483 The truth, which comes out in these e-mails... 424 00:17:02,508 --> 00:17:05,273 it puts the lie to all that. And the public has a right to know. 425 00:17:05,298 --> 00:17:06,788 You've really lost all perspective in this. 426 00:17:06,813 --> 00:17:08,201 - Petra. No, you really... - It's gross. 427 00:17:08,226 --> 00:17:09,492 You're gross. 428 00:17:09,517 --> 00:17:10,616 Thank you. 429 00:17:11,208 --> 00:17:13,614 - I'm gonna hold this piece until... - Charles. 430 00:17:13,639 --> 00:17:16,879 Until I can consider all sides. 431 00:17:16,904 --> 00:17:18,341 Ethically and otherwise. 432 00:17:20,603 --> 00:17:22,710 What are you gonna do? 433 00:17:25,976 --> 00:17:28,076 Who would be interested in this? 434 00:17:28,078 --> 00:17:30,078 TMZ or Gawker? 435 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,248 I don't know. Both. 436 00:17:34,384 --> 00:17:37,419 What about a... Say, a wedding planner? 437 00:17:37,421 --> 00:17:39,021 Hmm. 438 00:17:39,023 --> 00:17:41,189 It's First Amendment, it's personal services, 439 00:17:41,191 --> 00:17:44,292 it's religious freedom all rolled into one. Isn't it? 440 00:17:45,038 --> 00:17:49,022 Yes, you would arguably have a better case 441 00:17:49,047 --> 00:17:51,766 with a wedding planner because of the burden on her... 442 00:17:51,869 --> 00:17:54,069 her time commitment, her level of creativity, 443 00:17:54,071 --> 00:17:56,488 the list of her personal contacts. 444 00:17:56,740 --> 00:18:00,041 Yes, that would be a harder case for me to win. 445 00:18:00,043 --> 00:18:01,276 Great. 446 00:18:04,017 --> 00:18:05,550 Well, that was exhausting. 447 00:18:05,552 --> 00:18:07,018 But effective. 448 00:18:07,043 --> 00:18:09,746 I have decided not to fund the baker's appeal. 449 00:18:09,771 --> 00:18:11,461 Good. I think that's smart. 450 00:18:11,738 --> 00:18:14,772 Not just ideologically but practically. 451 00:18:14,797 --> 00:18:16,458 I think you'd lose. 452 00:18:25,572 --> 00:18:28,038 - Do you know what metadata is? - I do. 453 00:18:28,063 --> 00:18:30,142 Did you know it's possible to fake metadata? 454 00:18:30,167 --> 00:18:31,181 I didn't. 455 00:18:31,206 --> 00:18:33,306 Yeah, it's very difficult. You have 456 00:18:33,331 --> 00:18:34,916 to first hack into the computer, 457 00:18:34,941 --> 00:18:37,745 - then change the code... - I'm really not sure 458 00:18:37,770 --> 00:18:40,171 what it is that you need from me, Mr. Wiley. 459 00:18:40,982 --> 00:18:43,187 You used to work in the S.A.'s Office. 460 00:18:43,189 --> 00:18:45,423 I'm just wondering if you have any information 461 00:18:45,448 --> 00:18:47,980 that might be helpful to me or if you know 462 00:18:48,005 --> 00:18:50,205 of anyone here who might have faked the metadata. 463 00:18:51,430 --> 00:18:52,909 No. 464 00:18:53,199 --> 00:18:54,423 Sorry. 465 00:18:54,448 --> 00:18:57,287 Eli couldn't make it. Some blah-blah with the governor. 466 00:18:57,312 --> 00:18:59,146 Good. I don't have the energy to talk to Eli. 467 00:18:59,146 --> 00:19:00,546 What am I doing here? 468 00:19:00,571 --> 00:19:01,937 I wanted to give you a heads-up. 469 00:19:02,275 --> 00:19:03,938 You're kidding me. 470 00:19:03,963 --> 00:19:06,777 I got no choice. Gawker's starting to sniff around. 471 00:19:06,802 --> 00:19:09,025 It's just a matter of time before they dump everything online. 472 00:19:09,050 --> 00:19:11,857 - Don't do this. - I can't afford to get scooped. 473 00:19:12,418 --> 00:19:15,154 But you can afford to be a tool. 474 00:19:15,888 --> 00:19:17,262 That's good to know 475 00:19:17,287 --> 00:19:20,422 the next time I need a, you know... a tool. 476 00:19:22,737 --> 00:19:24,570 Hi. Alicia. 477 00:19:25,164 --> 00:19:26,637 Bit of a problem. 478 00:19:26,662 --> 00:19:29,065 From NPR News in Washington, 479 00:19:29,090 --> 00:19:31,481 I'm Lakshmi Singh. Another salvo 480 00:19:31,506 --> 00:19:33,202 in the ongoing cultural dispute 481 00:19:33,227 --> 00:19:35,020 over same-sex marriage in America, 482 00:19:35,045 --> 00:19:37,636 this time involving a gay couple in Idaho 483 00:19:37,661 --> 00:19:39,643 who were turned down by a wedding planner. 484 00:19:39,668 --> 00:19:41,787 Same-sex marriage is legal in Idaho, 485 00:19:41,814 --> 00:19:43,429 and the couple sued and won. 486 00:19:43,454 --> 00:19:46,609 But now prominent conservative activist Reese Dipple 487 00:19:46,634 --> 00:19:48,729 has agreed to fund the wedding planner's appeal. 488 00:20:00,912 --> 00:20:03,417 Do you have a dollar? 489 00:20:05,189 --> 00:20:07,016 Yeah. 490 00:20:07,041 --> 00:20:08,274 Why? 491 00:20:08,299 --> 00:20:09,698 'Cause I need it. 492 00:20:10,155 --> 00:20:11,788 Here you go. 493 00:20:12,411 --> 00:20:15,933 Okay. So I'm your lawyer now, Kalinda, 494 00:20:15,958 --> 00:20:18,658 and this dollar represents attorney-client privilege. 495 00:20:20,598 --> 00:20:22,045 Sure. 496 00:20:22,070 --> 00:20:25,772 You faked metadata, and Diane presented it in court 497 00:20:25,797 --> 00:20:27,481 to get Cary released, yes? 498 00:20:27,940 --> 00:20:29,158 Yeah. 499 00:20:29,183 --> 00:20:30,817 But Diane didn't know it was faked. 500 00:20:31,510 --> 00:20:32,517 Yeah. 501 00:20:32,945 --> 00:20:34,535 - Anything else? - Look, 502 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,991 after I faked the data, I had second thoughts about using it. 503 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,721 But Diane took it from my computer without my knowledge. 504 00:20:41,759 --> 00:20:44,626 I didn't realize until I got to court 505 00:20:44,651 --> 00:20:46,436 and saw her present it to the judge. 506 00:20:48,126 --> 00:20:49,643 Okay. 507 00:20:50,462 --> 00:20:52,604 Okay. You don't talk to anyone about this. 508 00:20:52,629 --> 00:20:53,929 Not Diane. Not Cary. 509 00:20:53,954 --> 00:20:55,778 And not Wiley. 510 00:20:56,281 --> 00:20:59,649 You just talk to me. Okay? 511 00:21:02,166 --> 00:21:04,368 Do you have any ideas? 512 00:21:05,576 --> 00:21:07,216 No. 513 00:21:09,112 --> 00:21:10,911 You used me. 514 00:21:11,912 --> 00:21:13,298 - What? - That wasn't 515 00:21:13,323 --> 00:21:14,908 a think tank exercise. 516 00:21:14,933 --> 00:21:17,970 You were trying to find a wedge issue against gay marriage. 517 00:21:17,995 --> 00:21:20,083 Of course I was. And I found it. 518 00:21:20,108 --> 00:21:21,407 - And you helped me. - Great. 519 00:21:21,432 --> 00:21:23,166 So I was your liberal guinea pig. 520 00:21:23,191 --> 00:21:24,623 Why is that a bad thing? 521 00:21:24,962 --> 00:21:26,429 If you think that gay marriage 522 00:21:26,431 --> 00:21:28,531 can withstand all legal assaults, 523 00:21:28,533 --> 00:21:31,077 you should rejoice in any chanceto defend it. 524 00:21:31,102 --> 00:21:33,571 So you're funding this wedding planner's appeal now? 525 00:21:33,596 --> 00:21:35,452 Yeah, I am. It's a stronger case. 526 00:21:36,441 --> 00:21:38,207 And you can help me. 527 00:21:38,601 --> 00:21:40,978 - I won't defend her. - You don't have to. 528 00:21:41,003 --> 00:21:43,303 I wouldn't ask you to be someone you're not. 529 00:21:43,681 --> 00:21:45,674 I want you to represent the plaintiff. 530 00:21:45,984 --> 00:21:47,770 - Excuse me? - We're having 531 00:21:47,795 --> 00:21:51,376 a mock trial here this afternoon with the real wedding planner. 532 00:21:51,401 --> 00:21:53,668 I want you to sue her. Destroy her. 533 00:21:53,693 --> 00:21:55,222 See what damage you can do. 534 00:21:55,247 --> 00:21:57,414 - So you can improve your case? - Yeah. 535 00:21:57,785 --> 00:22:00,563 But also so you can destroy it. 536 00:22:03,133 --> 00:22:04,663 Who's my client? 537 00:22:04,688 --> 00:22:06,154 Couldn't find the real plaintiff. 538 00:22:06,179 --> 00:22:08,279 You'll have to work with a stand-in. 539 00:22:09,839 --> 00:22:11,295 Who's the judge? 540 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,179 Geoffrey Solomon. So nice to meet you. 541 00:22:14,204 --> 00:22:15,973 Such an honor, sir. Diane Lockhart. 542 00:22:15,998 --> 00:22:17,864 - I know. - Oh. 543 00:22:17,889 --> 00:22:19,877 I think I read your Harvard book three times. 544 00:22:19,902 --> 00:22:23,177 Really? That's more than all my ex-wives put together. 545 00:22:23,202 --> 00:22:25,703 R.D. 546 00:22:25,930 --> 00:22:29,283 You got to admit, I'm stacking the deck against myself here. 547 00:22:29,747 --> 00:22:32,548 Liberal judge, tough plaintiff's attorney. 548 00:22:32,573 --> 00:22:35,203 You lose, all your fault. 549 00:22:35,228 --> 00:22:36,456 Thanks. 550 00:22:37,283 --> 00:22:39,550 Okay, strategy session. 551 00:22:39,630 --> 00:22:42,197 - Two-pronged attack. - Oh, I love the two prongs. 552 00:22:42,222 --> 00:22:43,388 Even as a kid, we had two-pronged attacks. 553 00:22:43,413 --> 00:22:45,303 Marissa. Shh. 554 00:22:45,661 --> 00:22:47,394 We have to delay Petra, 555 00:22:47,419 --> 00:22:49,798 - even it's only by 24 hours. - How do we do that? 556 00:22:49,823 --> 00:22:52,530 Hello, Eli. What do you need? 557 00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:54,182 I just got off the phone with the Governor. 558 00:22:54,184 --> 00:22:55,888 He thinks he can help you fill out your story. 559 00:22:55,913 --> 00:22:57,346 Really? In what way? 560 00:22:57,371 --> 00:22:59,838 By offering you an on-screen interview. 561 00:23:02,692 --> 00:23:04,520 You know, this is such BS. 562 00:23:04,545 --> 00:23:06,191 - What? - You're just trying to delay me. 563 00:23:06,216 --> 00:23:08,016 Hey, if you don't want the interview, that's fine. 564 00:23:08,041 --> 00:23:09,473 When can he do it? 565 00:23:09,498 --> 00:23:11,231 There's a chance later tonight. 566 00:23:11,256 --> 00:23:12,489 What kind of chance? 567 00:23:12,514 --> 00:23:14,022 Mm, 60/40. 568 00:23:15,204 --> 00:23:17,277 No restrictions on questions? 569 00:23:17,302 --> 00:23:18,568 None. 570 00:23:18,593 --> 00:23:19,893 Okay. 571 00:23:19,918 --> 00:23:21,757 - Get back to me with the time. - Sure will. 572 00:23:22,980 --> 00:23:24,509 So you don't get back to her? 573 00:23:24,534 --> 00:23:26,383 Oh, you do. 11:30 tonight. 574 00:23:26,408 --> 00:23:28,408 Now prong two. 575 00:23:28,433 --> 00:23:30,900 We pre-spin the e-mails. 576 00:23:31,488 --> 00:23:32,903 What does that mean? 577 00:23:32,928 --> 00:23:34,294 We go to a friendly reporter. 578 00:23:34,319 --> 00:23:36,056 - And reporters who hate Petra. - We give them 579 00:23:36,081 --> 00:23:37,497 the chance to scoop her. If you don't want 580 00:23:37,522 --> 00:23:39,206 a story to be told, it's better to tell it yourself. 581 00:23:39,231 --> 00:23:41,916 - Well, how do we tell it ourselves? - What's the worst revelation 582 00:23:41,941 --> 00:23:43,096 and the worst e-mail? 583 00:23:43,121 --> 00:23:45,199 "Alicia, I can't get you out of my head. 584 00:23:45,224 --> 00:23:47,428 - The touch of you, the taste... " - Okay. Thanks. 585 00:23:47,453 --> 00:23:48,886 It's just flirtation. There was 586 00:23:48,911 --> 00:23:50,579 no affair, these are flirtatious e-mails. 587 00:23:50,604 --> 00:23:52,871 - Eli. - What? 588 00:23:53,066 --> 00:23:54,877 I think you and I should talk a little. 589 00:23:54,902 --> 00:23:56,985 Alicia, I know this is embarrassing for you, 590 00:23:57,010 --> 00:23:58,776 but we don't need to explain your life. 591 00:23:58,801 --> 00:24:00,854 All we need to explain are these e-mails, 592 00:24:00,879 --> 00:24:04,814 and these e-mails merely suggest an obsession... a flirtation. 593 00:24:04,839 --> 00:24:07,411 - That's gonna be embarrassing enough. - Are there any e-mails 594 00:24:07,457 --> 00:24:09,624 - that suggest an actual affair? - "Will, you were away 595 00:24:09,626 --> 00:24:10,692 "at depos this week. 596 00:24:10,717 --> 00:24:12,762 "All I could think about was your hands on me. 597 00:24:12,787 --> 00:24:14,764 Sometimes this feels too dangerous." 598 00:24:16,665 --> 00:24:18,559 Okay, still pretty embarrassing, 599 00:24:18,584 --> 00:24:20,991 but merely suggestive of an act... you didn't act on it. 600 00:24:21,016 --> 00:24:22,859 - This is just sexting. - And this was all happening 601 00:24:22,884 --> 00:24:24,217 while your husband was screwing around. 602 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,040 Yeah, I don't think we need to go too deep into that. 603 00:24:26,042 --> 00:24:28,063 - Why not? - She's right. 604 00:24:28,088 --> 00:24:29,584 Alicia was merely tempted 605 00:24:29,609 --> 00:24:31,549 because her husband moved out on her, 606 00:24:31,574 --> 00:24:33,266 - and blah-blah. - Okay, I don't think 607 00:24:33,266 --> 00:24:34,669 we need to tear down Peter 608 00:24:34,694 --> 00:24:36,806 - to build up Alicia. - It was an affair. 609 00:24:37,787 --> 00:24:40,329 I can't just say this stuff about Will, 610 00:24:40,354 --> 00:24:42,121 because it wasn't true. 611 00:24:42,649 --> 00:24:45,155 But no one would appreciate it more 612 00:24:45,180 --> 00:24:47,214 if you did than Will. 613 00:24:47,239 --> 00:24:49,139 He always knew what had to be said. 614 00:24:49,599 --> 00:24:52,066 I can't. I'm sorry. 615 00:24:52,814 --> 00:24:54,642 Now what? 616 00:24:55,586 --> 00:24:57,407 Get Peter to talk to her. 617 00:25:00,693 --> 00:25:02,861 I'm not prejudiced against gay people. 618 00:25:02,886 --> 00:25:04,919 I'm not prejudiced against anyone. 619 00:25:04,944 --> 00:25:09,001 But I believe the Bible is the word of God. Period. 620 00:25:09,026 --> 00:25:10,579 And it's nof mine to... 621 00:25:10,604 --> 00:25:12,946 ignore or change as I wish. 622 00:25:13,361 --> 00:25:16,395 Well, honestly, it would be easier to do that. 623 00:25:16,420 --> 00:25:17,753 I don't want to be 624 00:25:17,778 --> 00:25:19,425 in the position of turning down business. 625 00:25:19,450 --> 00:25:21,339 I'm a wedding planner. I need your business, 626 00:25:21,364 --> 00:25:22,863 sir... I'm... 627 00:25:23,265 --> 00:25:24,696 I'm supposed to... 628 00:25:24,721 --> 00:25:27,222 treat him like the actual guy who's suing me, right? 629 00:25:27,247 --> 00:25:28,579 That's right, Ms. Dahl. 630 00:25:28,604 --> 00:25:30,069 Treat this just like court. 631 00:25:30,094 --> 00:25:31,793 Treat me just like a judge. 632 00:25:32,107 --> 00:25:33,867 Look, I certainly 633 00:25:33,892 --> 00:25:36,823 don't want to be sued for sticking to my beliefs, 634 00:25:36,848 --> 00:25:39,161 - but they are what they are. - Thank you, Ms. Dahl. 635 00:25:39,186 --> 00:25:41,328 - Your witness. - So, Ms. Dahl, 636 00:25:41,353 --> 00:25:43,620 you've been a wedding planner for 12 years, 637 00:25:43,645 --> 00:25:44,855 - is that correct? - Yes. 638 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,813 And in all that time, you have never been approached 639 00:25:46,838 --> 00:25:49,675 - about doing a gay wedding before? - Never. Of course, 640 00:25:49,700 --> 00:25:53,435 there's a homosexual community in Pocatello, 641 00:25:53,460 --> 00:25:56,154 and my very favorite florist is gay. 642 00:25:56,179 --> 00:25:57,991 But you are aware that gay marriage 643 00:25:58,016 --> 00:26:01,347 has been legal in Idaho since October of 2014. 644 00:26:01,372 --> 00:26:02,773 I'm aware it's legal, yes. 645 00:26:02,798 --> 00:26:05,105 Abortion is legal, too. 646 00:26:05,374 --> 00:26:07,497 It doesn't mean I have to agree with it. 647 00:26:07,522 --> 00:26:08,802 But you have to follow the law. 648 00:26:08,827 --> 00:26:10,991 I'm not stopping anyone from getting married. 649 00:26:11,016 --> 00:26:13,472 I just don't want to be the one to plan their wedding. 650 00:26:13,497 --> 00:26:14,829 That's all. 651 00:26:15,168 --> 00:26:17,091 I'm helping two people 652 00:26:17,116 --> 00:26:19,750 seal their commitment to one another before the world 653 00:26:19,775 --> 00:26:21,274 and before God. 654 00:26:21,547 --> 00:26:24,315 I can't do that if I don't believe in it. 655 00:26:24,905 --> 00:26:26,406 Ms. Dahl... 656 00:26:26,431 --> 00:26:28,967 how many times did, um, Jesus 657 00:26:29,231 --> 00:26:31,703 - condemn homosexuality? - Objection. Relevance. 658 00:26:32,133 --> 00:26:36,669 She's claiming religion is the basis of her refusal, Counselor. 659 00:26:36,671 --> 00:26:39,572 I fail to see how the specifics of that religion 660 00:26:39,574 --> 00:26:41,076 could not be relevant. 661 00:26:41,101 --> 00:26:42,433 Um, Jesus 662 00:26:42,458 --> 00:26:43,881 never condemned 663 00:26:43,906 --> 00:26:45,558 - homosexuality. - And how many times 664 00:26:45,583 --> 00:26:47,660 - did Jesus condemn divorce? - Three times. 665 00:26:47,685 --> 00:26:51,086 Four times... if you count Matthew and Mark's account 666 00:26:51,111 --> 00:26:52,761 - of the same incident. - Thank you. 667 00:26:52,786 --> 00:26:55,668 So you've never planned a wedding... 668 00:26:55,788 --> 00:26:58,488 for a couple that had previously been married? 669 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,139 Um... I haven't asked. 670 00:27:02,164 --> 00:27:04,503 - I guess I have. - Well, in fact, 671 00:27:04,528 --> 00:27:05,961 you have planned... 672 00:27:05,986 --> 00:27:09,023 two weddings in the last year alone 673 00:27:09,048 --> 00:27:10,814 where one or both 674 00:27:10,839 --> 00:27:12,492 of the couple had previously been married. 675 00:27:12,517 --> 00:27:14,422 - That sounds right. - So your religious 676 00:27:14,422 --> 00:27:16,853 objection is selective, at best. 677 00:27:16,878 --> 00:27:18,511 - Wouldn't you say? - Objection. Argumentative. 678 00:27:18,513 --> 00:27:21,147 - Sustained. - No more questions. 679 00:27:23,167 --> 00:27:24,868 Let's talk. 680 00:27:25,386 --> 00:27:27,024 You have no choice. 681 00:27:27,049 --> 00:27:28,324 I'm not gonna lie, 682 00:27:28,349 --> 00:27:29,586 especially not for a reporter. 683 00:27:29,611 --> 00:27:31,714 You have to control the narrative. 684 00:27:32,994 --> 00:27:35,961 To keep me from looking like the slutty wife. 685 00:27:35,986 --> 00:27:37,653 Yeah. 686 00:27:38,034 --> 00:27:40,168 - It'll kill you. - And you. 687 00:27:40,193 --> 00:27:41,525 You'll be the cuckold. 688 00:27:41,550 --> 00:27:43,477 If you don't control the narrative. 689 00:27:44,672 --> 00:27:48,062 It's kind of odd that we're discussing this so calmly. 690 00:27:48,087 --> 00:27:50,125 I'm hoping it's maturity. 691 00:27:50,776 --> 00:27:52,855 Really? Is that what it looks like? 692 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,507 Talking calmly. 693 00:27:54,847 --> 00:27:56,306 Not yelling. 694 00:27:56,517 --> 00:27:58,718 Making sense. Yeah. 695 00:28:01,269 --> 00:28:03,704 Have we come through the other side? 696 00:28:03,706 --> 00:28:05,172 What other side? 697 00:28:05,174 --> 00:28:06,506 Of anger. 698 00:28:06,508 --> 00:28:08,876 Jealousy. Disgust. 699 00:28:08,878 --> 00:28:10,677 Did I disgust you? 700 00:28:10,679 --> 00:28:11,990 For a while. 701 00:28:13,515 --> 00:28:16,350 Actually, it's kind of nice sitting here, drinking together. 702 00:28:16,352 --> 00:28:18,919 It's like watching two other people drink. 703 00:28:18,921 --> 00:28:21,191 And what do those two other people do? 704 00:28:21,216 --> 00:28:23,283 They used to be married. 705 00:28:23,308 --> 00:28:25,141 They like each other. 706 00:28:25,294 --> 00:28:28,628 They forgot that they're supposed to hate each other. 707 00:28:29,090 --> 00:28:30,697 Mm. 708 00:28:36,070 --> 00:28:38,138 Oh, it's not gonna happen. 709 00:28:38,140 --> 00:28:39,706 - What? - Sex. 710 00:28:39,708 --> 00:28:41,741 - I didn't say a word. - You don't have to. 711 00:28:41,743 --> 00:28:43,363 I can see the look on your face. 712 00:28:43,388 --> 00:28:44,988 I've known you a long time. 713 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,347 A long... long time. 714 00:28:47,349 --> 00:28:49,749 Oh, my God! 715 00:28:49,751 --> 00:28:52,275 You're like an 18-year-old. Everything's about 716 00:28:52,300 --> 00:28:54,020 - where you can stick it. - No. 717 00:28:54,022 --> 00:28:55,755 Listen... 718 00:28:55,757 --> 00:28:58,458 I know you think I've been a dog, Alicia, 719 00:28:58,460 --> 00:29:01,114 and I know you think I've been a bad husband, but... 720 00:29:02,116 --> 00:29:05,098 I've never been as bad as you've wanted me to be. 721 00:29:07,816 --> 00:29:09,636 That's probably true. 722 00:29:09,885 --> 00:29:11,608 And I loved you. 723 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,140 I still love you. 724 00:29:16,777 --> 00:29:19,112 I don't know, Peter. 725 00:29:20,180 --> 00:29:23,049 "Love" is a word that is so exhausted. 726 00:29:23,051 --> 00:29:25,551 I wish it meant something to me. 727 00:29:29,289 --> 00:29:31,324 Can I just leave it tonight 728 00:29:31,326 --> 00:29:34,393 that I like sitting, drinking with you here? 729 00:29:36,898 --> 00:29:37,930 Sure. 730 00:29:43,434 --> 00:29:46,103 Mr. Andersen, may I call you Nils? 731 00:29:46,816 --> 00:29:50,176 You're my client's husband, is that correct? 732 00:29:50,178 --> 00:29:52,878 For the purposes of these proceedings, yes, I am. 733 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,014 We understand you're playing a part here, 734 00:29:55,016 --> 00:29:57,675 - Mr... - My real name's Todd. 735 00:29:57,700 --> 00:30:00,167 Fine. Just answer Ms. Lockhart's questions 736 00:30:00,221 --> 00:30:02,054 as though you were actually Nils Andersen. 737 00:30:02,056 --> 00:30:03,456 Go ahead. 738 00:30:03,458 --> 00:30:05,192 So you're Mr. Taylor's husband? 739 00:30:05,217 --> 00:30:07,309 I am. We were married in January. 740 00:30:07,428 --> 00:30:09,829 Mm. I'd like you to talk about the day 741 00:30:09,831 --> 00:30:11,697 you were turned away by Ms. Dahl... 742 00:30:11,699 --> 00:30:13,725 - for being gay. - Objection. 743 00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:16,817 Misstates facts. Ms. Dahl didn't turn them away for being gay. 744 00:30:16,842 --> 00:30:19,241 She simply did not want to participate in their wedding. 745 00:30:19,266 --> 00:30:20,719 Sustained. But barely. 746 00:30:20,775 --> 00:30:23,275 Mr. Andersen, please tell us 747 00:30:23,277 --> 00:30:25,515 how it felt to be turned away. 748 00:30:25,980 --> 00:30:27,715 It felt like crap. 749 00:30:27,949 --> 00:30:29,982 - Frankly. - And was this the first time 750 00:30:29,984 --> 00:30:31,984 you'd been turned away from a business 751 00:30:31,986 --> 00:30:34,030 because of someone's religious objections? 752 00:30:34,055 --> 00:30:36,260 No. Happens a lot. 753 00:30:36,285 --> 00:30:38,328 And so then why sue Ms. Dahl 754 00:30:38,459 --> 00:30:40,092 and not anyone else? 755 00:30:40,094 --> 00:30:43,215 I guess it was the straw that broke the camel's back. 756 00:30:43,931 --> 00:30:46,398 Sometimes that's the way it feels, you know? 757 00:30:47,116 --> 00:30:48,834 You feel like a second-class citizen, 758 00:30:48,836 --> 00:30:50,602 and especially in a town like Pocatello, 759 00:30:50,604 --> 00:30:52,853 - 'cause it's so small. - In a town that small, 760 00:30:52,878 --> 00:30:54,744 was it easy to find another wedding planner? 761 00:30:54,808 --> 00:30:56,508 No. There are only three. 762 00:30:56,510 --> 00:30:58,977 Maybe-maybe five or six, if you count nearby towns. 763 00:30:58,979 --> 00:31:01,258 - They were all booked. - And if Ms. Dahl 764 00:31:01,283 --> 00:31:02,923 had simply told you she was booked? 765 00:31:03,083 --> 00:31:04,549 I would have understood. 766 00:31:04,551 --> 00:31:06,518 I guess that would have been a lie, 767 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,153 but it would have hurt less. 768 00:31:08,155 --> 00:31:10,322 - It would have been better than the truth. - Do you feel 769 00:31:10,324 --> 00:31:12,211 that you have suffered economic harm 770 00:31:12,236 --> 00:31:14,066 due to Ms. Dahl's turning you away? 771 00:31:14,094 --> 00:31:16,695 Yes. We had to go all the way to Boise 772 00:31:16,697 --> 00:31:17,963 to find a wedding planner. 773 00:31:17,965 --> 00:31:19,130 That's 200 miles. 774 00:31:19,132 --> 00:31:20,532 We had to make that drive 775 00:31:20,534 --> 00:31:21,733 - four times. - Your Honor? 776 00:31:21,735 --> 00:31:23,516 Could I request a... 777 00:31:23,541 --> 00:31:25,494 a brief recess before we cross? 778 00:31:25,519 --> 00:31:26,685 Well, of course. 779 00:31:33,579 --> 00:31:35,146 How dare you? 780 00:31:35,148 --> 00:31:37,816 - I'm sorry? - You cast my nephew 781 00:31:37,818 --> 00:31:39,451 - as the lover? - Yes, I did. 782 00:31:39,453 --> 00:31:41,086 You said go for the jugular. 783 00:31:41,088 --> 00:31:42,887 Hey, Uncle Reese. 784 00:31:43,689 --> 00:31:45,356 Hi, buddy. 785 00:31:45,997 --> 00:31:47,959 Will you follow me, please? 786 00:31:51,405 --> 00:31:52,463 Hey. 787 00:31:53,605 --> 00:31:56,301 How did you know how to change the metadata? 788 00:31:56,705 --> 00:31:58,503 I had a friend show me. 789 00:31:58,505 --> 00:32:00,171 But you did it alone? 790 00:32:00,173 --> 00:32:02,106 Yeah, but he knew I was doing it. 791 00:32:02,108 --> 00:32:04,809 - And nobody else knew anything about it? - Just him. 792 00:32:05,855 --> 00:32:07,545 Do I need to contain this? 793 00:32:08,380 --> 00:32:10,348 That's an understatement. 794 00:32:17,037 --> 00:32:18,537 Whoa. 795 00:32:19,150 --> 00:32:20,716 Where are you off to? 796 00:32:20,741 --> 00:32:22,867 Have you seen Howell? I thought he was still here. 797 00:32:22,892 --> 00:32:24,207 - Who? - Howell... 798 00:32:24,207 --> 00:32:25,502 The guy who works on the computer. 799 00:32:25,527 --> 00:32:28,027 Oh, yeah. Wiley pulled him out for something. 800 00:32:28,052 --> 00:32:29,841 They're in the conference room together. 801 00:32:39,550 --> 00:32:42,760 Did you not believe me when I told you I loved my nephew? 802 00:32:42,785 --> 00:32:44,919 No, I did. That's why I approached him. 803 00:32:44,921 --> 00:32:47,452 I'm not paying you to stage a family therapy session. 804 00:32:47,477 --> 00:32:49,343 I'm not paying you to use my relative. 805 00:32:49,345 --> 00:32:51,344 I didn't use him... he wanted to participate. 806 00:32:51,369 --> 00:32:53,857 - I'm paying you to act professionally... - You told me to go for the jugular. 807 00:32:53,859 --> 00:32:55,592 You told me to get personal. 808 00:32:55,594 --> 00:32:57,828 This is more than personal; this is an insult, Diane. 809 00:32:57,830 --> 00:33:00,600 I'm sorry, sir, but if you want to decide on gay marriage, 810 00:33:00,625 --> 00:33:02,325 you have to see who you're impacting, 811 00:33:02,350 --> 00:33:04,116 and it can't be an actor. 812 00:33:06,428 --> 00:33:08,596 So finish what you started. 813 00:33:09,855 --> 00:33:12,990 Me, my, mo, may. 814 00:33:12,992 --> 00:33:15,453 May. May, there we go. 815 00:33:15,478 --> 00:33:16,911 Very friendly reporter, 816 00:33:16,913 --> 00:33:18,928 dumb as an ox. 817 00:33:18,953 --> 00:33:21,159 Just keep your answers to single syllables 818 00:33:21,184 --> 00:33:22,717 and you should be fine. 819 00:33:24,421 --> 00:33:27,030 - Mrs. Florrick, hello. - Mr. Willoughby, 820 00:33:27,055 --> 00:33:29,289 I was thrilled when Josh told me you said yes. 821 00:33:29,314 --> 00:33:32,282 I was, too. I voted for you, ma'am. 822 00:33:32,429 --> 00:33:35,446 - Unless I shouldn't say that. - Oh, well, I won't tell anyone. 823 00:33:36,852 --> 00:33:38,519 Good. I like secrets 824 00:33:38,544 --> 00:33:40,244 and things of that elk. 825 00:33:40,956 --> 00:33:42,757 - Ilk? - No, elk. 826 00:33:42,782 --> 00:33:44,215 Things of that elk. 827 00:33:45,641 --> 00:33:46,792 Well... 828 00:33:46,817 --> 00:33:48,516 shall we get started? 829 00:33:48,541 --> 00:33:50,808 Were Alicia and Mr. Gardner close? 830 00:33:50,833 --> 00:33:52,533 - Absolutely. - Interesting that you're 831 00:33:52,558 --> 00:33:54,901 calling her Alicia and him Mr. Gardner. 832 00:33:54,926 --> 00:33:57,125 Are you trying to manufacture some distance 833 00:33:57,150 --> 00:33:59,718 - between them, Eli? - No, Kim, 834 00:33:59,743 --> 00:34:02,189 I'm trying to give you a sense of the reality. 835 00:34:02,214 --> 00:34:05,346 Ah. So you did have a relationship 836 00:34:05,371 --> 00:34:06,783 with Mr. Gardner? 837 00:34:06,808 --> 00:34:10,410 Well, it depends on how you define "relationship." 838 00:34:11,620 --> 00:34:14,901 - As in relating to other people. - This is about 839 00:34:14,937 --> 00:34:17,084 - Petra Moritz? Seriously? - No, it's not 840 00:34:17,109 --> 00:34:18,969 about Petra per se. It's about 841 00:34:18,994 --> 00:34:21,628 a journalistic culture that increasingly kicks sand 842 00:34:21,653 --> 00:34:23,814 - over ethical boundaries... - Petra has these e-mails? 843 00:34:23,839 --> 00:34:26,473 Yes. Of course, Petra wants to go with this story tomorrow, 844 00:34:26,498 --> 00:34:28,754 so if you wanted to scoop her, 845 00:34:29,385 --> 00:34:31,351 you'd have to get something out tonight. 846 00:34:31,353 --> 00:34:33,120 So... 847 00:34:33,122 --> 00:34:35,263 if there was nothing going on 848 00:34:35,288 --> 00:34:36,909 between you and your boss, 849 00:34:36,934 --> 00:34:39,055 how do you explain these e-mails? 850 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,113 I'm embarrassed to admit it, 851 00:34:41,138 --> 00:34:44,936 but it was... a flirtation. 852 00:34:45,134 --> 00:34:47,603 An innocent one, but a wrong one. 853 00:34:47,628 --> 00:34:50,508 I was having difficulties with my husband 854 00:34:50,533 --> 00:34:52,562 at that point, and 855 00:34:52,941 --> 00:34:54,444 I was carried away. 856 00:34:54,469 --> 00:34:56,508 I wish that I hadn't, 857 00:34:56,533 --> 00:34:59,016 but I'm deeply embarrassed. 858 00:34:59,748 --> 00:35:01,348 But were you having difficulties 859 00:35:01,350 --> 00:35:03,617 with your husband at that point? 860 00:35:08,791 --> 00:35:11,760 Yes, that's right, I was... 861 00:35:12,048 --> 00:35:13,899 having difficulties. 862 00:35:13,996 --> 00:35:16,048 And were you embarrassed? 863 00:35:17,576 --> 00:35:19,744 And I was embarrassed. 864 00:35:19,919 --> 00:35:23,120 Um... I hate to admit it. 865 00:35:24,498 --> 00:35:27,742 Let's talk about your relationship with Mr. Gardner. 866 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,567 - Hey. - What's going on? 867 00:35:32,592 --> 00:35:33,858 What did Wiley ask you? 868 00:35:33,860 --> 00:35:36,627 He asked about the metadata, but I lied 869 00:35:36,629 --> 00:35:38,529 - for you. - Howell, I told you to tell the truth. 870 00:35:38,531 --> 00:35:40,464 Don't worry, he believed me. I told him we stumbled 871 00:35:40,466 --> 00:35:42,666 on the metadata while I was fixing tickets for you 872 00:35:42,668 --> 00:35:44,219 in the Chicago PD traffic system. 873 00:35:44,244 --> 00:35:46,027 - What? - Speeding tickets. 874 00:35:46,027 --> 00:35:49,707 It's something I actually do. I told him I fixed two tickets for you. 875 00:35:49,709 --> 00:35:52,685 You had four, but I fixed two to keep up appearances. 876 00:35:52,710 --> 00:35:54,745 Howell, I don't have four speeding tickets. 877 00:35:54,770 --> 00:35:56,393 - I... I don't even have two. - I will 878 00:35:56,418 --> 00:35:58,719 make it look like you do. Don't worry so much. 879 00:35:58,744 --> 00:36:00,273 Okay, look... 880 00:36:00,298 --> 00:36:02,441 just tell me everything that you said, okay? 881 00:36:02,441 --> 00:36:03,441 All right. 882 00:36:03,466 --> 00:36:06,414 Mr. Andersen. Aren't you and your husband just picking 883 00:36:06,439 --> 00:36:08,007 - a fight here? - Objection, badgering, 884 00:36:08,032 --> 00:36:09,960 - inflammatory. - Try it again, Mr. Partridge. 885 00:36:09,985 --> 00:36:11,790 Did you have an ulterior motive 886 00:36:11,815 --> 00:36:13,348 in bringing suit against Ms. Dahl? 887 00:36:13,635 --> 00:36:15,607 Did I have an ulterior motive? 888 00:36:15,632 --> 00:36:16,787 I guess what I'm asking is, 889 00:36:16,812 --> 00:36:18,786 were you really so offended by what she did 890 00:36:18,811 --> 00:36:20,797 - or did you see this as a test case? - Objection. 891 00:36:20,822 --> 00:36:22,585 It's a fair question, Counselor. 892 00:36:22,610 --> 00:36:24,592 - A test? - A case that would allow 893 00:36:24,617 --> 00:36:26,250 you to change the law in your favor. 894 00:36:26,275 --> 00:36:27,474 Isn't that, in fact, why you 895 00:36:27,499 --> 00:36:28,717 - brought this case? - No. 896 00:36:29,224 --> 00:36:31,258 I'm in love. 897 00:36:31,447 --> 00:36:33,004 That's the only reason I'm doing 898 00:36:33,029 --> 00:36:34,229 any of this, by the way. 899 00:36:34,254 --> 00:36:35,739 I'm in love. 900 00:36:38,372 --> 00:36:39,545 Nothing further. 901 00:36:39,570 --> 00:36:41,403 I have something further. 902 00:36:41,922 --> 00:36:43,210 Why doesn't anyone ever 903 00:36:43,235 --> 00:36:44,734 ask me what I believe? 904 00:36:44,759 --> 00:36:47,158 They take it for granted I'm not a Christian, but 905 00:36:47,183 --> 00:36:50,884 I am. I believe in God, too. 906 00:36:52,432 --> 00:36:54,132 Am I proud of my wife? 907 00:36:54,430 --> 00:36:56,530 More than you can imagine, Petra. 908 00:36:56,555 --> 00:36:59,407 Winning an election in Chicago is... 909 00:36:59,432 --> 00:37:00,946 difficult. 910 00:37:00,971 --> 00:37:02,870 But winning an election in Chicago 911 00:37:02,895 --> 00:37:04,940 with your integrity still intact... 912 00:37:05,219 --> 00:37:06,924 Well, that's practically a miracle. 913 00:37:06,949 --> 00:37:09,516 - And Alicia Florrick has kept hers? - Always. 914 00:37:11,885 --> 00:37:14,313 Governor, was your wife sleeping with her boss, 915 00:37:14,338 --> 00:37:15,637 Will Gardner? 916 00:37:15,736 --> 00:37:17,477 Oh, well, I... 917 00:37:17,502 --> 00:37:19,536 I can't answer that question. 918 00:37:19,729 --> 00:37:21,803 Because you don't want to? 919 00:37:21,828 --> 00:37:25,162 No, no. Because I can't confirm what you're asking. 920 00:37:25,187 --> 00:37:27,074 Just like, listen, I can't confirm 921 00:37:27,099 --> 00:37:29,099 that she was ever at a Neil Young concert. 922 00:37:29,124 --> 00:37:31,699 I can only confirm what my wife has told me, 923 00:37:31,724 --> 00:37:33,898 which is she did not have an affair 924 00:37:33,923 --> 00:37:36,924 - with Mr. Gardner. - Governor, we have copies of e-mails 925 00:37:36,949 --> 00:37:38,882 between your wife and Mr. Gardner. 926 00:37:38,907 --> 00:37:40,673 Which I'm sure you'd love to take 927 00:37:40,698 --> 00:37:42,460 as evidence of a scandalous 928 00:37:42,485 --> 00:37:46,044 office romance. But as my wife told the reporter 929 00:37:46,069 --> 00:37:48,201 Ted Willoughby, they are simply an artifact 930 00:37:48,226 --> 00:37:50,915 of a flirtation, not of an affair. 931 00:37:52,368 --> 00:37:53,769 I'm sorry, what? 932 00:37:53,794 --> 00:37:55,755 As she told the reporter Ted Willoughby 933 00:37:55,780 --> 00:37:58,426 of Channel 8 just a few hours ago, 934 00:37:58,451 --> 00:38:01,093 those e-mails were part of an unfortunate 935 00:38:01,118 --> 00:38:02,837 flirtation. That's it. 936 00:38:02,862 --> 00:38:04,161 Well, surely the... 937 00:38:04,186 --> 00:38:07,767 the language in these e-mails 938 00:38:07,792 --> 00:38:11,769 is not everyday talk between a superior and 939 00:38:11,794 --> 00:38:13,455 - subordinate. - Well, that's a picture 940 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,402 you seem intent on painting. I guess what my chief of staff 941 00:38:16,427 --> 00:38:18,046 Eli Gold said to Kim Masters 942 00:38:18,071 --> 00:38:19,545 in their interview is true. 943 00:38:19,570 --> 00:38:21,837 - You're out to get her. - No, I... 944 00:38:23,025 --> 00:38:25,113 I am just trying to reveal the truth, 945 00:38:25,138 --> 00:38:26,599 - Governor, and... - Look, Petra, 946 00:38:26,693 --> 00:38:29,960 you've been trying to nail Alicia for the last three years. 947 00:38:29,985 --> 00:38:32,705 - Governor... - You have a grudge against her. You do. 948 00:38:32,730 --> 00:38:34,654 I mean, if you look at any of your interviews with her... 949 00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:35,886 Okay, thank you, thank you. 950 00:38:35,911 --> 00:38:37,489 I think we have what we need here. 951 00:38:37,514 --> 00:38:41,067 - Okay. We're good? - Yes, and thank you for... coming down. 952 00:38:41,092 --> 00:38:42,417 Oh, no, thank you. 953 00:38:42,442 --> 00:38:44,109 I think that went well. 954 00:38:44,134 --> 00:38:46,034 Hey, thank you. Good to see you. 955 00:38:46,059 --> 00:38:47,367 Okay, thank you. 956 00:38:57,822 --> 00:38:59,627 Speeding tickets? How many? 957 00:38:59,652 --> 00:39:01,492 Four. 958 00:39:01,494 --> 00:39:03,979 There were four, but he only 959 00:39:04,004 --> 00:39:06,054 fixed two for me... I paid for the other two. 960 00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:07,423 Just to keep it kosher? 961 00:39:07,448 --> 00:39:08,580 Yeah. 962 00:39:08,868 --> 00:39:10,168 Where'd you get 'em? 963 00:39:10,436 --> 00:39:12,374 Two in the Loop 964 00:39:12,399 --> 00:39:15,088 and one on the way back from Springfield. 965 00:39:15,113 --> 00:39:17,046 The other on the South Side. 966 00:39:17,071 --> 00:39:18,370 That's exactly what Howell said. 967 00:39:18,577 --> 00:39:20,214 Almost word for word. 968 00:39:20,494 --> 00:39:22,089 I got to go. 969 00:39:22,114 --> 00:39:23,881 There's a puppet show at the library. 970 00:39:24,183 --> 00:39:26,516 One last thing, Kalinda. 971 00:39:27,636 --> 00:39:29,215 You're caught. 972 00:39:29,892 --> 00:39:31,718 You faked the metadata. 973 00:39:34,143 --> 00:39:35,972 The longer it takes for you to admit it, 974 00:39:35,997 --> 00:39:37,730 the worse it's gonna be for you and Diane. 975 00:39:37,755 --> 00:39:39,586 So, I mean, I hate to say this, 976 00:39:40,113 --> 00:39:42,547 'cause I like you, but... 977 00:39:42,690 --> 00:39:44,890 if I were you, I'd come clean. 978 00:39:44,915 --> 00:39:46,201 Come on. 979 00:39:51,269 --> 00:39:53,238 Well, you've given this old 980 00:39:53,263 --> 00:39:56,064 con law professor a lot to think about. 981 00:39:56,619 --> 00:39:58,086 On the one hand, people 982 00:39:58,088 --> 00:40:00,021 have the right to their religious views, 983 00:40:00,023 --> 00:40:01,690 and they cannot and should not 984 00:40:01,692 --> 00:40:03,992 be barred from the marketplace because of them. 985 00:40:03,994 --> 00:40:06,127 On the other hand, every citizen has the right 986 00:40:06,129 --> 00:40:07,595 not to be discriminated against 987 00:40:07,597 --> 00:40:09,097 on the basis of their race, 988 00:40:09,099 --> 00:40:10,765 their color, their nationality, 989 00:40:10,767 --> 00:40:13,334 and yes, their sexual orientation. 990 00:40:13,336 --> 00:40:15,227 Well, given all that, 991 00:40:15,572 --> 00:40:18,406 my task is difficult but clear: 992 00:40:18,408 --> 00:40:20,174 I must weigh whether or not 993 00:40:20,176 --> 00:40:21,809 a religious accommodation 994 00:40:21,811 --> 00:40:23,578 would frustrate the core purpose 995 00:40:23,580 --> 00:40:25,580 of antidiscrimination law. 996 00:40:25,582 --> 00:40:27,424 And in this case... 997 00:40:27,556 --> 00:40:29,250 I find that it would. 998 00:40:29,252 --> 00:40:31,452 Accordingly, I must rule 999 00:40:31,454 --> 00:40:33,087 in favor of the plaintiffs, 1000 00:40:33,089 --> 00:40:36,457 Mr. Taylor and Mr. Andersen. 1001 00:40:37,826 --> 00:40:39,855 Very well done. 1002 00:40:47,069 --> 00:40:50,471 Diane. Can I ask you something? 1003 00:40:51,393 --> 00:40:53,441 What do you think would happen 1004 00:40:53,443 --> 00:40:56,077 if every case were adjudicated 1005 00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:58,512 by someone with a family member 1006 00:40:58,514 --> 00:41:01,749 or loved one who'd be affected by the decision? 1007 00:41:01,751 --> 00:41:04,085 Ultimately, perhaps every case is. 1008 00:41:04,087 --> 00:41:06,153 But isn't the law supposed to be impersonal? 1009 00:41:06,155 --> 00:41:09,056 In the sense that it should be the same for everyone? 1010 00:41:09,058 --> 00:41:11,025 You know, otherwise we're in China, 1011 00:41:11,027 --> 00:41:13,160 right? Everything's determined by who you know. 1012 00:41:13,162 --> 00:41:15,362 The law is supposed to be fair. 1013 00:41:15,364 --> 00:41:17,484 Not impersonal. 1014 00:41:17,834 --> 00:41:19,300 In fact, I would argue 1015 00:41:19,302 --> 00:41:21,902 that the law is always personal. 1016 00:41:21,904 --> 00:41:24,171 It has to see the human side, too. 1017 00:41:24,173 --> 00:41:26,106 Or else it's meaningless. 1018 00:41:29,746 --> 00:41:31,111 Hmm. 1019 00:41:31,113 --> 00:41:34,048 You're gonna fund this defense anyway, aren't you? 1020 00:41:34,050 --> 00:41:36,083 The wedding planner? 1021 00:41:36,085 --> 00:41:37,303 Yes. 1022 00:41:37,328 --> 00:41:38,723 Why? 1023 00:41:40,322 --> 00:41:43,290 Three years ago, Barack Obama 1024 00:41:43,292 --> 00:41:44,992 was against gay marriage. 1025 00:41:44,994 --> 00:41:47,628 So was Bill Clinton. So was Hillary. 1026 00:41:47,630 --> 00:41:50,631 You know, basically every Democratic icon 1027 00:41:50,633 --> 00:41:52,833 was lined up against gay marriage. 1028 00:41:52,835 --> 00:41:55,769 Now they're not. You know? 1029 00:41:55,771 --> 00:41:59,206 Because it's politically expedient for them not to be. 1030 00:41:59,208 --> 00:42:01,808 Who knows what they're gonna be for or against 1031 00:42:01,810 --> 00:42:03,810 in another three years, right? 1032 00:42:03,812 --> 00:42:08,382 I like people who stand by their opinions. 1033 00:42:08,384 --> 00:42:10,754 I like people who stand by their beliefs. 1034 00:42:11,286 --> 00:42:13,186 And I think 1035 00:42:13,188 --> 00:42:15,155 a religious accommodation 1036 00:42:15,157 --> 00:42:17,791 must be made for people who do that. 1037 00:42:17,793 --> 00:42:20,393 You know? It's the right thing to do. 1038 00:42:21,996 --> 00:42:23,663 And as we've discussed, 1039 00:42:23,665 --> 00:42:27,166 you're a highly educated, very confident woman, 1040 00:42:27,191 --> 00:42:28,845 but you walk into this 1041 00:42:28,870 --> 00:42:31,237 law firm, full of old bulls 1042 00:42:31,262 --> 00:42:33,603 and young tigers. Were you nervous? 1043 00:42:33,628 --> 00:42:34,918 Oh, very. 1044 00:42:34,943 --> 00:42:37,398 - That's nice. Very human. - Just wait. 1045 00:42:37,423 --> 00:42:38,938 During our time together, 1046 00:42:38,963 --> 00:42:41,078 Mrs. Florrick talked about what she had learned 1047 00:42:41,103 --> 00:42:43,094 as an attorney. About the importance 1048 00:42:43,119 --> 00:42:45,773 of being smart, creative, zealous. 1049 00:42:45,798 --> 00:42:47,421 But the question surfacing 1050 00:42:47,446 --> 00:42:49,968 was 1051 00:42:49,993 --> 00:42:52,718 Alicia Florrick the candidate too creative, 1052 00:42:52,743 --> 00:42:55,404 too zealous, in her pursuit of the state's attorney's office? 1053 00:42:55,452 --> 00:42:57,920 - What is she talking about? - I have no idea. 1054 00:42:57,945 --> 00:43:00,547 I recently spoke with a Chicago election monitor, 1055 00:43:00,572 --> 00:43:03,640 and serious accusations are being made 1056 00:43:03,665 --> 00:43:06,042 that the voting machines in some wards 1057 00:43:06,067 --> 00:43:08,738 registered votes for Frank Prady 1058 00:43:08,763 --> 00:43:10,863 as votes for Alicia Florrick. 1059 00:43:10,888 --> 00:43:12,751 - Mother of... - And that may have 1060 00:43:12,776 --> 00:43:13,968 - been the difference - What? 1061 00:43:13,968 --> 00:43:15,647 - in the state's attorney race. - Oh. 1062 00:43:15,672 --> 00:43:18,011 - We are all in trouble now. - Was the election stolen? 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