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This was what we would call
basically a vicious murder.

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It looked like she was

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doing her best to get away
from whoever did this to her

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but didn't make it.

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Ty was loving and caring, and
she just wanted to help people.

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There was a lot of fear
that somebody

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may be targeting
lgbtq people.

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Tyler police
promptly dispatch

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officer Joshua smedley
to the scene,

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a vacant house in the northern
section of the city.

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Due to it being
a major accident

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and gunshots being fired,

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I tried to get there
as soon as possible,

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and I tried to be
as tactical as I could.

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I activated my body camera.

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Approached the vehicle
and noticed that it was

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in the dirt
off the curb

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right next to
a telephone pole.

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When I looked inside
the vehicle,

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the driver was motionless.

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Usually, when people
get into a major accident

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and they have a collision
with an object,

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they're gonna have more blood
coming from their nose,

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head, mouth area.

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But I noticed the blood was
coming from the shoulder,

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the wrists,

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and was pretty heavy on
the side of the victim,

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which seemed pretty strange.

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I noticed that these wounds
on the victim in

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the shoulder and the wrist
area appeared to be

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impact wounds from gunshots.

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That raised concerns
that this is

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not just gonna be
an accident.

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Emts are unable
to revive the woman

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and pronounce her dead.

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Officers also discover
the victim's cellphone still

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connected to the car stereo --
they collect it as evidence.

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There's no telling where

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this could've first occurred.

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Could be the suspect's riding
in the vehicle with the victim

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while shooting them
or are they chasing

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after them in
their own vehicle?

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There was only one thing
we knew for sure,

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and that's that
we had a homicide.

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Investigators
also discover that

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their victim is
a transgender woman.

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I spoke to family members.

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I spoke to friends.

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I spoke to
a lot of classmates

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and then also with some of
Ty's professors,

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and they all told me about
the kind of

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person Ty was, that Ty
was loving and caring,

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and she just wanted
to help people.

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She had gone back to school
specifically to be in

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the medical field to where
she could serve others.

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Back at the scene,

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officers tape off the area

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and begin their homicide
investigation.

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We found a passenger side
mirror on the ground.

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It appeared that the vehicle
had run into this brick mailbox.

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And we discovered evidence,

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shell casings 100 yards
to the west.

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With the huge crime scene,

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we knew we had quite a bit of
work ahead of US at that point.

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I then began to knock on
addresses nearby

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where the incident had
occurred in hopes of getting

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more leads to
the investigation.

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Not a lot of people
answered the door

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due to it being past 3 A.M.

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Bianca: I was hoping
that she had witnessed

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more of the accident,

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but all she saw
was the vehicle.

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She didn't see anyone.

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She didn't see anyone
inside the vehicle.

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So she ended up not having
any more leads to

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the investigation.

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Police in Tyler,
Texas, have just found

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the body of
24-year-old Ty Underwood...

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...shot to death in her car.

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She had been shot numerous
times, apparently four times

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from what looked like
outside of the vehicle.

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The suspect may have been
standing at the door

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or sitting in the car --
it looked like

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she was doing her best to get
away from whoever did this

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to her but didn't make it,
and she died in her car.

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We knew this was
what we would call basically

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a vicious murder.

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Around this time,
there was a lot of fear in

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the lgbtq community about
people being who they were.

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When you start talking to
family members or classmates,

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it stops becoming more of
an abstract concept

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and this is a real person
who had

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real family and real friends
who are in real pain.

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Back on the streets,

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the investigation continues.

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Investigators look
into Ty's background

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and come up with
her current address.

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Detectives Nathan Elliott
and Andy erbaugh head

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to the apartment
to speak with Ty's

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roommate, breonna.

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When we go contact anybody
in a murder investigation,

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we don't know
how they're involved,

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because they could be
the suspect.

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They could know
what happened.

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They could have information
that is valuable as evidence,

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so we don't

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want to give up too much
of our hand in this.

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She was touched emotionally
to the point of

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crying hysterically,

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almost to the point
of gagging.

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So at that point in time,

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we almost check her off as
somebody who's not involved.

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Ty and her friend
were living together,

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are best friends,

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and she knows pretty much
everything that Ty does.

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We were hoping that she could
provide some details about why

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Ty was out at that time
of night,

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especially when Ty was
supposed to be at school

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that morning.

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Detectives bring breonna

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to the station to talk further.

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To know that they're having
to live in this kind of fear,

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to know that they're even
scared to walk on the street,

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too scared that they might be
killed just for who they are,

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it just kind of lights
a fire under you,

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because obviously
you definitely

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don't want that to keep
happening and want to catch

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who did this, you know,
even more.

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While detectives work
to access Ty's phone,

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they continue to speak
with Ty's friends

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to learn more about
the people in her inner circle.

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We didn't know what Ty
needed the money for -- was it

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she was late on bills?

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Was she owed somebody
some money,

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where she's going to
meet somebody,

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to pay 'em the money?

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We didn't know if Ty was gonna

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go buy something from
an individual and got robbed.

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Once we learned
that Ty was dating

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somebody who went to Texas
college and played football,

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and from the roommate that
the name was Carlton,

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so now we had
a lead to follow.

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So our next step is
to go to Texas college,

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find out who Carlton is.

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Detectives travel
to Texas college,

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where a 21-year-old football
player named

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Carlton champion, Jr., is
brought in to talk.

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At this point,
it was suspicious that Carlton

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would delete the app,

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but this doesn't make him
a murderer.

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Champion:...

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Carlton was adamant,
stumbling over his words,

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that he hadn't
had sex with Ty --

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being a football player,

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being that now a trans woman
has been

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killed a few blocks
from the college.

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Word was getting out,
so I don't know if he didn't

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want to be associated with Ty

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where everybody else
would know it.

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Detectives press
Carlton about his movements

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that night after he returned
from Dallas.

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When we told Carlton that Ty
had been killed,

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Carlton was quick to say
that he had nothing to

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do with it, said that other
people could vouch for him.

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Just kept denying that he was
involved in any way.

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He really didn't
have any emotions,

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no emotion about somebody
being killed at all.

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Kind of raised
some red flags.

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The murder of
Ty Underwood

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has left the city
of Tyler, Texas,

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struggling for answers.

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Ty's death was
a really scary

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moment for people
in this community,

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and there was a lot of community
outrage about what had happened.

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Now detectives set
their sights on one suspect,

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Texas college football player,
Carlton champion, Jr.

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As detectives try to verify
Carlton's statements,

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they focus on another hopeful
source of information --

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Ty's locked cellphone.

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We knew that we needed to get
in the cellphone,

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but we didn't have
the pass code.

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We know that if you try
the wrong pass code on an iPhone

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too many times,
it's gonna lock the phone up.

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And luckily,
we typed in Ty's birthday,

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and it opened the phone.

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When we looked
in Ty's cellphone,

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we saw that Ty had been
texting another person.

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We tracked down
that phone number and saw

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that Ty have been texting
with another male at Tyler.

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Detectives give
the man, Dalton Howard, a call.

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He seemed very surprised that
a detective would be

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calling him to begin with,
and he said that

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he didn't know anybody
by the name of Tyrone.

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Not sure if Dalton
is telling the truth,

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detectives swan and Matthews
visit him at his home

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and press him about
the murder.

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...

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He seemed pretty convincing
that he had never met her,

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but as an investigator, I have
seen people who lie very well.

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When he told me that he was
willing to let US look

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at his phone or whatever,

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he certainly seemed willing
to help in some way.

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Then he tells US
that he deleted it,

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and suddenly we're thinking
okay, what does he have to hide?

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Detectives aren't convinced

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Dalton is telling the truth,

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so they return with him
to the station for

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further questioning.

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Any time somebody makes
absolute statements like that,

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I never do things that might
cause US to want to go down

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that path,

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but for somebody to tell US
that they never leave the house

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at night,

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especially when they are
texting somebody

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that closely before a crime

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certainly brings suspicion
upon him.

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Detectives hunting
Ty Underwood's killer

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in Tyler, Texas,

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have their eye on two suspects
that Ty met on social media.

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Now, the one they've been
questioning, Dalton Howard,

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has requested to
take a polygraph test.

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As the interview
progressed, he became much more

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uncomfortable
as I began to question him

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more and more about the timing
and also whether or not

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he ever met

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Ty, so we gave him
a polygraph,

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and at the conclusion of
that polygraph,

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we considered the fact
that he had not

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contacted or texted Ty
after the,

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last text, which was about
two hours before the death,

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and that,

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there was no plans to meet
Ty in those texts.

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I determined that he was
no longer a suspect.

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Detectives next
turn their attention

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back to the other man

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Ty had been communicating
with, Carlton champion Jr.

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When I started looking at
Ty's cellphone, I turned

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the airplane mode off,

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which a lot of times we turn it
on to preserve evidence.

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Then all of these messages
started coming through.

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Then going through all
the kik messages, I saw

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that Ty and Carlton were

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messaging back and forth
at two o'clock in the morning,

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just minutes
before Ty was shot.

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They're arguing back and forth,
and they end up

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agreeing to meet.

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Ty says she's coming
to the college.

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Carlton says,
"no meet me on 25th."

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And she says,
"I'm on my way."

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Detectives visit
Carlton at his dorm room

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as they ready
a search warrant.

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Now that we know he's lied,

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that's an advantage
to US as detectives,

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because now we have something
that we can

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interrogate him on.

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He pretty much was...

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Throwing it in our face.

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Like,
"how dare you ask me that?

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How dare you ask me
if I killed her?"

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Investigators
carry out their search.

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He would not
admit to anything.

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He was just adamant that
he did not send those messages,

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and he did not know who did.

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So we did what we did
and served a search warrant

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and seized some of
his belongings.

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With the amount of
blood spatter

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that was sprayed
through the car,

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if he had been
in the car with her

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or even standing outside the car
when she was shot,

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there may be
biological evidence

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or blood evidence
on that shirt

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or on his pants
or especially on his shoes.

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But then investigators
find something revealing

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as they review the security
footage from Texas college.

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During the interviews
with Carlton,

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he continued to say
that he never

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left his dorm room past 9:30
or 10 the night before.

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We were able
to attain video from

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the surveillance cameras
of the dorm hall,

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which showed he left
the dorm about

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a little after two o'clock
that next morning

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and returned
about 20 minutes later,

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which would have gave him
enough time

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to kill Ty and run back
to his dorm.

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Given all that we had

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learned up until this point,
it was time to bring Carlton in.

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Tyler, Texas, police
have prime suspect,

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00:34:20,020 --> 00:34:22,720
Carlton champion, Jr.,
at the station,

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where they confront him
about his relationship with Ty.

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When I was
interviewing Carlton,

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he knew he was at the center
of our investigation

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at this point,
and for his attitude --

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to be smirking,
to want me to go

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buy him some food,
to be nonchalant, is not

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ordinarily how a suspect
or a person being interrogated

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00:35:54,050 --> 00:35:55,410
for a homicide acts.

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I could tell that Ty
wanted more in this relation,

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something Carlton did,

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00:36:23,340 --> 00:36:25,840
Ty was more emotionally
invested in the relationship.

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Ty tells Carlton
that she's not coming.

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00:36:29,050 --> 00:36:30,880
They're pretty much
through with,

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and then Ty messages

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a few hours later and says,
"no, I'm coming to pick you up."

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00:36:53,310 --> 00:36:55,570
We explained
everything we had --

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the messages,
the video, everything.

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00:36:58,450 --> 00:37:00,510
It didn't seem
to matter to Carlton.

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We gave Carlton every
opportunity to tell US,

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you know, his defense,

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what actually happened
in his words,

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and during
all the interviews,

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he wouldn't tell US
what happened.

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He'd just continued to say he
wasn't there, he didn't do it.

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Unfortunately,
without evidence to connect

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Carlton to the crime scene,

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detectives don't have enough
for an arrest

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until they receive word
back from the lab.

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There are some investigations

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when you have a lot of
evidence against somebody,

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sometimes people will
eventually say, "okay,

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I'm guilty."

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With Carlton champion,

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he just dug his heels
in the dirt and continued

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to say that he had
no involvement in

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the homicide of Ty
when clearly there was

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evidence against him.

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00:40:30,420 --> 00:40:32,160
I think Carlton
was threatened.

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00:40:32,260 --> 00:40:34,430
I think he didn't want
his football players

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00:40:34,530 --> 00:40:37,460
or his friends to know that he
was dating a transgender woman.

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00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:38,660
He didn't want that.

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00:40:40,430 --> 00:40:42,300
And so that's why
he killed her.

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00:40:53,210 --> 00:40:57,080
Based on the evidence,
Carlton champion, Jr., is

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charged with the first degree
murder of Ty Underwood.

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00:41:03,020 --> 00:41:07,760
Through the trial, Carlton
was still flippant and cold,

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and denying and denying it.

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Going so far as to
lash out in the courtroom,

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caught on news cameras.

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00:41:20,940 --> 00:41:22,610
I don't think that
sat well with the jury,

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and in the end, they convicted
him of murder and sentenced him

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to life in prison.

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00:41:35,620 --> 00:41:38,560
There was a vigil for Ty after
the murder, when everybody

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00:41:38,660 --> 00:41:41,360
began to learn more
about Ty as a person.

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00:41:41,430 --> 00:41:44,930
It brought together a large
cross section of the community.

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We had probably about
50 people

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00:41:47,670 --> 00:41:49,330
together from all over
the community,

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00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,540
family members, friends, coming
together to celebrate who Ty was

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00:41:53,670 --> 00:41:56,770
as a person and the fact that Ty
was going to get justice.

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00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,240
When Ty's death occurred,

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that also sparked a lot of
other conversations

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that weren't going to be had
in this community,

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00:42:04,450 --> 00:42:08,320
and lgbtq advocates
in the community

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00:42:08,420 --> 00:42:11,390
to take a harder stance,
to speak up.

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00:42:11,490 --> 00:42:13,190
They needed to demand
humanization

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in their own community,

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00:42:15,300 --> 00:42:18,760
and I don't think that
we would have the strong dynamic

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00:42:18,870 --> 00:42:20,870
base of lgbtq advocates

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00:42:20,970 --> 00:42:23,900
in this area had they not
taken that stance when

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Ty was murdered.


