1
00:00:07,890 --> 00:00:12,890
Subtitles by explosiveskull
www.OpenSubtitles.org

2
00:00:14,942 --> 00:00:17,109
In California, the
worst measles outbreak

3
00:00:17,142 --> 00:00:18,908
in 15 years is spreading.

4
00:00:18,942 --> 00:00:21,875
The virus is roaring back
into the headlines tonight.

5
00:00:21,908 --> 00:00:24,042
An outbreak, somehow traced to...

6
00:00:24,075 --> 00:00:26,776
Someone who had probably
caught measles abroad visited

7
00:00:26,809 --> 00:00:29,109
Disneyland and may have sneezed.

8
00:00:29,142 --> 00:00:31,409
Measles on the
march in America.

9
00:00:31,442 --> 00:00:33,542
This outbreak is
showing no signs of letting

10
00:00:33,576 --> 00:00:36,142
up there are already more cases
this year than there were...

11
00:00:36,175 --> 00:00:37,376
The number tripled

12
00:00:37,409 --> 00:00:41,642
to 644 measles cases
reported in 27 states.

13
00:00:41,676 --> 00:00:42,843
I mean, is this all

14
00:00:42,875 --> 00:00:44,743
basically because of the
anti-vaccination movement?

15
00:00:44,776 --> 00:00:47,275
Because parents aren't
vaccinating their kids?

16
00:00:47,309 --> 00:00:49,042
Yeah, you know, I think so.

17
00:00:49,075 --> 00:00:51,109
A bill that would
ban exemptions

18
00:00:51,142 --> 00:00:53,175
from childhood vaccines
is advancing

19
00:00:53,209 --> 00:00:55,042
through the California
legislature.

20
00:00:55,075 --> 00:00:56,409
We are offering legislation

21
00:00:56,442 --> 00:00:58,309
that will abolish the
personal belief exemption.

22
00:00:58,342 --> 00:00:59,908
I think you're
starting to see why it is

23
00:00:59,942 --> 00:01:01,309
that mandates are so important.

24
00:01:01,342 --> 00:01:03,209
There has been some
inaccurate information

25
00:01:03,242 --> 00:01:06,109
circulating about
vaccines, mostly stemming

26
00:01:06,142 --> 00:01:08,942
from a British study
linking vaccines to autism.

27
00:01:08,975 --> 00:01:11,476
Still continued here,
the vaccine caused autism,

28
00:01:11,509 --> 00:01:13,008
even though that
has been debunked.

29
00:01:13,042 --> 00:01:15,409
Repeatedly and
thoroughly debunked.

30
00:01:15,442 --> 00:01:17,776
You may have heard
vaccination causes autism

31
00:01:17,809 --> 00:01:20,376
in one out of 110 children.

32
00:01:20,409 --> 00:01:21,175
Fuck that.

33
00:01:21,209 --> 00:01:22,175
Total bullshit.

34
00:01:22,209 --> 00:01:23,542
It doesn't.

35
00:01:23,576 --> 00:01:25,776
The bill requiring children
to be vaccinated has passed

36
00:01:25,809 --> 00:01:27,442
with bipartisan support.

37
00:01:27,476 --> 00:01:30,342
Every child must meet
immunization standards

38
00:01:30,376 --> 00:01:33,676
before joining public schools,
private schools and daycares.

39
00:01:33,709 --> 00:01:37,175
I would strongly encourage
everybody, look at the science,

40
00:01:37,209 --> 00:01:40,142
look at the facts, CDC, the
Center for Disease Control,

41
00:01:40,175 --> 00:01:42,075
can give you good information.

42
00:01:42,109 --> 00:01:43,642
Get your children vaccinated.

43
00:03:05,942 --> 00:03:07,008
Hello?

44
00:03:07,042 --> 00:03:09,209
I was sitting at
my desk where I teach

45
00:03:09,242 --> 00:03:10,609
at Simpson University.

46
00:03:10,642 --> 00:03:11,409
My phone rings.

47
00:03:11,442 --> 00:03:13,676
It's Dr. William Thompson.

48
00:03:13,709 --> 00:03:16,309
Brian, you and I don't
know each other very well.

49
00:03:16,342 --> 00:03:20,376
I don't know how this is
all going to play out.

50
00:03:20,409 --> 00:03:25,109
You have a son with autism,
and I have great shame now,

51
00:03:25,142 --> 00:03:28,376
when I meet families
with kids with autism.

52
00:03:28,409 --> 00:03:32,875
Because I have been
part of the problem.

53
00:03:34,075 --> 00:03:39,809
My son Steven was
born in February of 1998.

54
00:03:39,843 --> 00:03:42,042
Steve, what does the cow say?

55
00:03:42,075 --> 00:03:42,676
Moo.

56
00:03:42,709 --> 00:03:43,609
Tweet, tweet.

57
00:03:43,642 --> 00:03:45,242
Tweet!

58
00:03:45,275 --> 00:03:45,676
Doggie.

59
00:03:45,709 --> 00:03:47,442
Yeah.

60
00:03:47,476 --> 00:03:52,309
Two weeks after his 15 month
vaccines, he lost all language.

61
00:03:52,342 --> 00:03:54,676
He lost all eye contact.

62
00:03:54,709 --> 00:03:58,342
We pick him up and he
would just hang limp.

63
00:03:58,376 --> 00:04:01,275
This is a time where
CDC was just starting

64
00:04:01,309 --> 00:04:04,843
to do these studies on
vaccines and autism.

65
00:04:04,875 --> 00:04:08,409
As a scientist, I
have over 60 technical

66
00:04:08,442 --> 00:04:10,476
and scientific publications

67
00:04:10,509 --> 00:04:14,142
in major international
scientific journals,

68
00:04:14,175 --> 00:04:16,576
and I was contacting the CDC

69
00:04:16,609 --> 00:04:19,642
and was deeply critical
of their studies.

70
00:04:19,676 --> 00:04:22,676
And so the CDC decided that
the scientist who was going

71
00:04:22,709 --> 00:04:27,142
to interface with me at that
time was Dr. William Thompson.

72
00:04:27,175 --> 00:04:29,042
Because I was on his
back, because he didn't

73
00:04:29,075 --> 00:04:33,309
like what I was saying about the
statistics, I received a letter

74
00:04:33,342 --> 00:04:36,542
from a CDC attorney
in 2004 saying

75
00:04:36,576 --> 00:04:41,843
that I was no longer
permitted to contact the CDC.

76
00:04:41,875 --> 00:04:47,309
Fast forwarding to 2014,
Thompson said to me,

77
00:04:47,342 --> 00:04:53,275
"Brian if you listen to me, and
if you do what I tell you to do,

78
00:04:53,309 --> 00:04:56,676
I can guarantee you will be
able to access a treasure trove

79
00:04:56,709 --> 00:05:00,843
of data, and I would like to
guide you through these steps.

80
00:05:07,975 --> 00:05:12,042
So I wanted to be a resource,
I wanted to be valuable to you.

81
00:05:12,075 --> 00:05:15,875
I want you to have
someone in the system...

82
00:05:15,908 --> 00:05:20,509
For years, I had been trying

83
00:05:20,542 --> 00:05:23,409
to crack this edifice
of the CDC.

84
00:05:23,442 --> 00:05:28,609
And just getting little
glimpses of what was not right.

85
00:05:28,642 --> 00:05:32,676
The CDC has put the
research 10 years behind.

86
00:05:32,709 --> 00:05:36,975
Because the CDC has
not been transparent,

87
00:05:37,008 --> 00:05:41,275
we've missed 10 years of
research because the CDC

88
00:05:41,309 --> 00:05:47,875
is so paralyzed right now by
anything related to autism.

89
00:05:49,908 --> 00:05:53,075
I am a licensed
clinical psychologist

90
00:05:53,109 --> 00:05:55,709
and a board certified
behavior analyst.

91
00:05:55,743 --> 00:06:01,008
In 1978, I want to say the
prevalence of autism was

92
00:06:01,042 --> 00:06:04,042
about 1 in 15,000 children.

93
00:06:04,075 --> 00:06:06,075
It was a very rare disorder.

94
00:06:06,109 --> 00:06:09,175
I was working at
a clinic at UCLA,

95
00:06:09,209 --> 00:06:12,109
which was pretty much
the only known center

96
00:06:12,142 --> 00:06:14,975
for treating children with
autism, and we had maybe 6

97
00:06:15,008 --> 00:06:17,676
to 10 children we
were working with.

98
00:06:17,709 --> 00:06:21,942
Somewhere around the early 90s,
shortly after I opened card,

99
00:06:21,975 --> 00:06:27,109
the growth of autism has
been so high and so rapid

100
00:06:27,142 --> 00:06:30,609
that I've never felt like I
could ever catch up anymore.

101
00:06:30,642 --> 00:06:33,942
From an official
diagnostic perspective,

102
00:06:33,975 --> 00:06:36,442
the way that we define
autism, we were looking

103
00:06:36,476 --> 00:06:39,008
at deficits in two areas.

104
00:06:39,042 --> 00:06:41,476
The first is social
communication

105
00:06:41,509 --> 00:06:43,509
and social interaction.

106
00:06:43,542 --> 00:06:48,376
And in that area we require
three specific symptoms

107
00:06:48,409 --> 00:06:49,576
to be present.

108
00:06:49,609 --> 00:06:53,642
Symptoms such as no social
emotional reciprocity.

109
00:06:53,676 --> 00:06:56,175
No nonverbal communication.

110
00:06:56,209 --> 00:06:58,376
That means eye contact,
for instance.

111
00:06:58,409 --> 00:07:00,942
Or no development
of relationships.

112
00:07:00,975 --> 00:07:06,109
The second required area
of deficit is the presence

113
00:07:06,142 --> 00:07:10,376
of stereotypic repetitive
restricted behaviors.

114
00:07:10,409 --> 00:07:14,542
And these are things like
hand flapping, body rocking,

115
00:07:14,576 --> 00:07:18,642
insistence on routines
being the same.

116
00:07:18,676 --> 00:07:22,309
One of the new additions
is the presence

117
00:07:22,342 --> 00:07:24,975
of a sensory dysregulation.

118
00:07:25,008 --> 00:07:29,342
If a child has an inability
to sense things correctly,

119
00:07:29,376 --> 00:07:32,209
not necessarily hearing
things the way we do,

120
00:07:32,242 --> 00:07:36,642
that could be classified
as a symptom of autism.

121
00:07:38,442 --> 00:07:41,743
So you have five
symptoms, two in the area

122
00:07:41,776 --> 00:07:44,342
of repetitive behaviors,
and three in the area

123
00:07:44,376 --> 00:07:46,376
of social communication deficit,

124
00:07:46,409 --> 00:07:48,275
then you will get
a classification

125
00:07:48,309 --> 00:07:52,875
of what is called autism
spectrum disorder, ASD.

126
00:07:55,843 --> 00:07:58,275
We begin though, as
always, keeping them honest.

127
00:07:58,309 --> 00:07:59,975
Breaking news tonight,
just hours ago,

128
00:08:00,008 --> 00:08:02,075
the British Medical
Journal, the BMJ,

129
00:08:02,109 --> 00:08:05,075
did something extremely rare
for a scientific journal.

130
00:08:05,109 --> 00:08:08,542
It accused a researcher, Andrew
Wakefield, of outright fraud.

131
00:08:08,576 --> 00:08:11,609
I got a call on
the 19th of May 1995

132
00:08:11,642 --> 00:08:14,576
from a mother telling me
the story of her child,

133
00:08:14,609 --> 00:08:18,109
his regression into
autism following a vaccine,

134
00:08:18,142 --> 00:08:20,676
and I said "How can I help you?

135
00:08:20,709 --> 00:08:21,875
I know nothing about autism.

136
00:08:21,908 --> 00:08:24,175
You've come through
the wrong number."

137
00:08:24,209 --> 00:08:25,442
And she said, "No, doctor,

138
00:08:25,476 --> 00:08:28,209
my child has terrible
gastrointestinal issues,

139
00:08:28,242 --> 00:08:30,642
and no one will take
them seriously."

140
00:08:30,676 --> 00:08:33,442
I was an academic
gastroenterologist doing

141
00:08:33,476 --> 00:08:37,275
research with a particular
interest in Crohn's disease,

142
00:08:37,309 --> 00:08:40,342
ulcerative colitis,
inflammatory bowel disease.

143
00:08:40,376 --> 00:08:42,175
I knew nothing whatsoever
about autism.

144
00:08:42,209 --> 00:08:43,409
When I was at medical
school it was

145
00:08:43,442 --> 00:08:47,075
so rare we weren't
taught about it.

146
00:08:47,109 --> 00:08:50,075
We heard a succession of stories
which were very, very similar.

147
00:08:50,109 --> 00:08:52,709
Medicine is about
pattern recognition,

148
00:08:52,743 --> 00:08:55,442
and there was a clear
pattern emerging.

149
00:08:55,476 --> 00:08:57,975
So we decided, a group of us,

150
00:08:58,008 --> 00:09:02,309
including the world's leading
pediatric gastroenterologist

151
00:09:02,342 --> 00:09:05,109
at the time, led by
professor John Walker Smith,

152
00:09:05,142 --> 00:09:08,843
decided that these children
merited thorough investigation.

153
00:09:08,875 --> 00:09:11,175
Well Dr. Wakefield
has been shown

154
00:09:11,209 --> 00:09:15,008
to use absolutely fraudulent
data, created a fake paper,

155
00:09:15,042 --> 00:09:17,175
the journal allowed it to run.

156
00:09:17,209 --> 00:09:18,809
All the other studies were done,

157
00:09:18,843 --> 00:09:22,576
showed no connection whatsoever
again and again and again,

158
00:09:22,609 --> 00:09:26,875
so it's an absolute lie that
has killed thousands of kids.

159
00:09:26,908 --> 00:09:28,175
What we discovered
and reported

160
00:09:28,209 --> 00:09:31,275
for the first time was this
link between what appeared

161
00:09:31,309 --> 00:09:34,975
to be a novel type of
intestinal inflammation,

162
00:09:35,008 --> 00:09:36,342
and autistic regression

163
00:09:36,376 --> 00:09:39,576
in previously developmentally
normal children.

164
00:09:39,609 --> 00:09:42,908
And among those, the
majority had regressed

165
00:09:42,942 --> 00:09:46,776
into autism according to their
parents following the measles,

166
00:09:46,809 --> 00:09:48,975
mumps, rubella vaccine.

167
00:09:49,008 --> 00:09:51,576
It wasn't our place
to censor that story,

168
00:09:51,609 --> 00:09:54,142
because it may be
uncomfortable for public health.

169
00:09:54,175 --> 00:09:57,275
Our job was to report
that story accurately,

170
00:09:57,309 --> 00:10:00,075
in order that it might lead
to further investigation

171
00:10:00,109 --> 00:10:03,042
and the paper explicitly said,

172
00:10:03,075 --> 00:10:08,175
this paper does not prove an
association between MMR vaccine

173
00:10:08,209 --> 00:10:10,109
and the syndrome described.

174
00:10:10,142 --> 00:10:12,875
More work is needed
to resolve this issue.

175
00:10:12,908 --> 00:10:15,776
That was the conclusion
of the paper.

176
00:10:15,809 --> 00:10:17,743
As an investigative
medical journalist,

177
00:10:17,776 --> 00:10:19,709
I've spent the last 7
years working on one

178
00:10:19,743 --> 00:10:22,242
of the best medical
talk shows in the world.

179
00:10:22,275 --> 00:10:24,942
We know in medicine that
there have been many,

180
00:10:24,975 --> 00:10:28,008
many studies proving that
vaccines do not cause autism.

181
00:10:28,042 --> 00:10:31,709
But the problem I have always
had with that is that thousands

182
00:10:31,743 --> 00:10:35,509
and thousands of parents
all telling the same story.

183
00:10:35,542 --> 00:10:37,042
My child got a vaccine.

184
00:10:37,075 --> 00:10:38,609
Usually the MMR vaccine.

185
00:10:38,642 --> 00:10:41,075
And then that night
or the next day broke

186
00:10:41,109 --> 00:10:43,242
out in a fever
and then when they came

187
00:10:43,275 --> 00:10:45,409
out of the fever, lost speech
, lost the ability

188
00:10:45,442 --> 00:10:49,109
to walk, basically
regressed into what we know

189
00:10:49,142 --> 00:10:51,609
as autism, and never came back.

190
00:10:51,642 --> 00:10:54,809
Doctors used to be told to
listen to their patient.

191
00:10:54,843 --> 00:10:57,476
That was the cornerstone
of medicine as we know it.

192
00:10:57,509 --> 00:10:59,142
But something has
changed recently

193
00:10:59,175 --> 00:11:01,342
where the patient doesn't know
what they're talking about,

194
00:11:01,376 --> 00:11:04,109
and these parents, with their
story of their children,

195
00:11:04,142 --> 00:11:05,542
have just been written off

196
00:11:05,576 --> 00:11:07,409
as if they have no idea
what is really going

197
00:11:07,442 --> 00:11:08,175
on with their child.

198
00:11:08,209 --> 00:11:10,409
I have two kids.

199
00:11:10,442 --> 00:11:12,275
And anyone that has
children knows

200
00:11:12,309 --> 00:11:16,409
that when we first have
babies, we are overly sensitive

201
00:11:16,442 --> 00:11:20,242
to every little hiccup,
every cough, every sniffle.

202
00:11:20,275 --> 00:11:22,776
So to say that a
parent was just unaware

203
00:11:22,809 --> 00:11:24,809
that their child had issues,

204
00:11:24,843 --> 00:11:27,409
and suddenly they
realized one year later

205
00:11:27,442 --> 00:11:30,442
that oh they have autism,
that doesn't make sense to me.

206
00:11:30,476 --> 00:11:32,809
And so I wanted to look
into this story and find

207
00:11:32,843 --> 00:11:36,309
out what is this
disconnect between medicine,

208
00:11:36,342 --> 00:11:39,875
science, and real parents?

209
00:11:43,642 --> 00:11:45,142
I couldn't wait to be a mom.

210
00:11:45,175 --> 00:11:48,908
I remembered specifically,
before we even got married,

211
00:11:48,942 --> 00:11:51,843
talking about how important
children would be in our lives.

212
00:11:51,875 --> 00:11:55,442
I wanted a daughter
first, and I wanted a son,

213
00:11:55,476 --> 00:11:57,509
and we were planning on
having four children.

214
00:11:57,542 --> 00:11:59,908
We were going to be
the most perfect parents

215
00:11:59,942 --> 00:12:01,242
that we could be.

216
00:12:01,275 --> 00:12:06,609
Bella was born, and that
was a wonderful experience.

217
00:12:06,642 --> 00:12:09,109
Bella was just this
angelic, perfect child,

218
00:12:09,142 --> 00:12:11,776
she hit all her milestones.

219
00:12:11,809 --> 00:12:15,609
I got pregnant with
Billy quite quickly.

220
00:12:16,942 --> 00:12:18,642
Bella, say hello to Billy.

221
00:12:18,676 --> 00:12:19,942
Hello.

222
00:12:19,975 --> 00:12:21,908
We've now got a beautiful
girl and a beautiful boy,

223
00:12:21,942 --> 00:12:23,509
and life was just amazing.

224
00:12:23,542 --> 00:12:27,509
So at 2, 4 and 6 months, Billy
had his normal baby vaccines.

225
00:12:27,542 --> 00:12:30,376
A little bit sniffly,
chesty-coldy,

226
00:12:30,409 --> 00:12:32,409
after the last one, so me...

227
00:12:32,442 --> 00:12:35,376
in my perfect mother mode,
rushed to the doctor.

228
00:12:35,409 --> 00:12:36,209
You know, is he okay?

229
00:12:36,242 --> 00:12:37,209
Do I need to give him anything?

230
00:12:37,242 --> 00:12:39,109
Yes, you need to
give him antibiotics,

231
00:12:39,142 --> 00:12:42,442
just to make sure there is
not an infection in there.

232
00:12:42,476 --> 00:12:43,776
It didn't clear up.

233
00:12:43,809 --> 00:12:46,376
Brought him back to the doctor,
had even more antibiotics,

234
00:12:46,409 --> 00:12:47,908
let's just keep this
going in him.

235
00:12:47,942 --> 00:12:49,942
And I remember my
mother calling up,

236
00:12:49,975 --> 00:12:52,075
my mother is a homeopathic
hippie,

237
00:12:52,109 --> 00:12:53,109
and called up saying
what are you doing?

238
00:12:53,142 --> 00:12:55,309
In chucking those antibiotics

239
00:12:55,342 --> 00:12:57,042
down your son's throat...
for what?

240
00:12:57,075 --> 00:12:59,175
And I'm saying to her
mum, with all due respect,

241
00:12:59,209 --> 00:13:01,908
you're an artist, and they're
doctors, so they know best.

242
00:13:01,942 --> 00:13:05,843
He was due his MMR
vaccination at 12 months.

243
00:13:05,875 --> 00:13:09,676
So the morning, exactly to the
day, my friend, she said to me,

244
00:13:09,709 --> 00:13:11,975
"Listen, I've heard that
there may be a problem

245
00:13:12,008 --> 00:13:14,809
with this vaccine you're about
to take Billy in for, the MMR."

246
00:13:14,843 --> 00:13:16,409
I said "Are you crazy?

247
00:13:16,442 --> 00:13:18,409
What is the matter with you?

248
00:13:18,442 --> 00:13:20,576
If there was a problem with
the vaccination it would be

249
00:13:20,609 --> 00:13:22,275
headline news.

250
00:13:22,309 --> 00:13:23,676
The doctor would be calling me

251
00:13:23,709 --> 00:13:27,342
up saying do not bother coming
in, this is not a safe vaccine.

252
00:13:27,376 --> 00:13:28,676
None of that is happening.

253
00:13:28,709 --> 00:13:29,776
You're being negative.

254
00:13:29,809 --> 00:13:31,175
You're being careless,
and you're listening

255
00:13:31,209 --> 00:13:34,008
to what some rumor that
you heard somewhere,

256
00:13:34,042 --> 00:13:36,409
Billy could become deaf
if I don't take him

257
00:13:36,442 --> 00:13:38,942
in now and get him this MMR.

258
00:13:41,242 --> 00:13:43,676
You know, most of the
evidence linking measles

259
00:13:43,709 --> 00:13:46,576
with autism has kind of
settled down, and most doctors

260
00:13:46,609 --> 00:13:49,576
and scientists agree that it
probably isn't the major cause.

261
00:13:49,609 --> 00:13:52,576
I've been working in
pediatrics for almost 20 years.

262
00:13:52,609 --> 00:13:56,942
I think most pediatricians
view vaccines

263
00:13:56,975 --> 00:14:00,843
as they are the number one
thing they do for kids.

264
00:14:00,875 --> 00:14:03,709
Okay there we go.

265
00:14:03,743 --> 00:14:05,476
High-five.

266
00:14:05,509 --> 00:14:06,175
All right.

267
00:14:06,209 --> 00:14:07,442
That was really good.

268
00:14:07,476 --> 00:14:11,142
I'm young enough to not
remember the days of kids

269
00:14:11,175 --> 00:14:14,576
in an iron lung, because
they were battling polio.

270
00:14:14,609 --> 00:14:16,609
You know, polio has
essentially been eradicated

271
00:14:16,642 --> 00:14:17,776
from this country.

272
00:14:17,809 --> 00:14:21,109
In 98 the Wakefield
study had come out,

273
00:14:21,142 --> 00:14:22,542
my son had just been born.

274
00:14:22,576 --> 00:14:26,309
That study kind of pointed
a finger at the MMR.

275
00:14:26,342 --> 00:14:30,975
As a parent, I was scared
to give the MMR to my son,

276
00:14:31,008 --> 00:14:35,242
and as a matter of fact, we... I
didn't give it to him on time.

277
00:14:35,275 --> 00:14:36,476
Because I wanted to see.

278
00:14:36,509 --> 00:14:41,242
I wanted to see what
additional studies would show.

279
00:14:41,275 --> 00:14:43,609
And over time, additional
studies did show

280
00:14:43,642 --> 00:14:45,908
that no, it's safe.

281
00:14:45,942 --> 00:14:47,843
So he did get the vaccine.

282
00:14:47,908 --> 00:14:50,709
You know, if everybody
stopped vaccinating,

283
00:14:52,042 --> 00:14:55,676
we would be going
back to the dark ages.

284
00:15:06,242 --> 00:15:09,843
When a CDC scientist, who
had been there, at that time,

285
00:15:09,875 --> 00:15:14,776
17 years, tells you this
is how you access data,

286
00:15:14,809 --> 00:15:17,242
it didn't take me very
long to realize oh,

287
00:15:17,275 --> 00:15:19,242
I'd better do what he says.

288
00:15:19,275 --> 00:15:21,376
Because he knows what
he's talking about.

289
00:15:21,409 --> 00:15:22,843
I just want to
tell you one thing.

290
00:15:22,875 --> 00:15:26,042
Right now, I'm sitting at a
very pretty position in terms

291
00:15:26,075 --> 00:15:27,875
of providing you a
lot of information.

292
00:15:27,908 --> 00:15:30,676
He asked me what data sets
are you going to request?

293
00:15:30,709 --> 00:15:32,776
And I said, well I'm going
to request two of the studies

294
00:15:32,809 --> 00:15:34,476
that you've done on Thimerosal,

295
00:15:34,509 --> 00:15:37,642
the mercury-containing
preservative that is used

296
00:15:37,676 --> 00:15:39,142
in some of the vaccines.

297
00:15:39,175 --> 00:15:41,642
And he said well that's
fine, but I want you

298
00:15:41,676 --> 00:15:45,542
to request the MMR data set
first, and this is the study

299
00:15:45,576 --> 00:15:48,809
by Frank DeStefano and
his colleagues in 2004.

300
00:15:48,843 --> 00:15:51,908
It was the one study
where we could end

301
00:15:51,942 --> 00:15:55,809
up creating a mess while
the CDC tried to, you know,

302
00:15:55,843 --> 00:15:58,576
tried to sort out something
they couldn't understand.

303
00:15:58,609 --> 00:16:01,209
The day Billy got the
MMR was a living nightmare,

304
00:16:01,242 --> 00:16:03,442
worst day of my life,
to be honest with you.

305
00:16:03,476 --> 00:16:08,142
I came in and I saw him
lying in his cot, listless.

306
00:16:08,175 --> 00:16:11,743
He started this uncontrollable
shaking.

307
00:16:11,776 --> 00:16:13,409
Uncontrollable shaking.

308
00:16:13,442 --> 00:16:16,275
Imagine coming out
of a frozen pond.

309
00:16:16,309 --> 00:16:20,942
His eyes were doing this,
and he was shaking, like this.

310
00:16:20,975 --> 00:16:24,209
And I remember she grasped
him and held him really tight.

311
00:16:24,242 --> 00:16:25,409
To her chest.

312
00:16:25,442 --> 00:16:29,442
There's immediate fear
in Jon, and immediate,

313
00:16:29,476 --> 00:16:31,242
mommy this is not
going to happen,

314
00:16:31,275 --> 00:16:32,409
I don't know what
is wrong with you,

315
00:16:32,442 --> 00:16:34,376
but this is not going to happen.

316
00:16:34,409 --> 00:16:38,175
And we get to hospital, we rush
him in, doctors are coming in,

317
00:16:38,209 --> 00:16:42,008
looking at him, that's when
they said he's had a reaction,

318
00:16:42,042 --> 00:16:46,542
he's had a seizure, this
is normal, this is common,

319
00:16:46,576 --> 00:16:50,709
for many, many children
who have this vaccination,

320
00:16:50,743 --> 00:16:53,875
it's absolutely okay,
he's going to be fine.

321
00:16:53,908 --> 00:16:57,409
Nobody ever told me that there
would be any side effect to any

322
00:16:57,442 --> 00:17:00,175
of the vaccinations
my children had.

323
00:17:08,242 --> 00:17:09,809
Following his
febrile convulsion

324
00:17:09,843 --> 00:17:12,175
that he had the same
day of the MMR,

325
00:17:12,209 --> 00:17:14,609
we were told to take him home.

326
00:17:14,642 --> 00:17:16,509
He slept in the bed
with us for the night,

327
00:17:16,542 --> 00:17:18,409
he seemed just very,
very sleepy.

328
00:17:18,442 --> 00:17:21,709
In fact, he didn't
ever really wake

329
00:17:21,743 --> 00:17:24,175
up to the Billy that
we had before.

330
00:17:27,275 --> 00:17:30,576
For me, it became really
necessary to start looking

331
00:17:30,609 --> 00:17:34,843
at what types of medical
issues are these children

332
00:17:34,908 --> 00:17:36,042
going through?

333
00:17:36,075 --> 00:17:38,609
What are the other factors
that have affected them,

334
00:17:38,642 --> 00:17:40,476
that have brought
them to this level

335
00:17:40,509 --> 00:17:42,576
of symptomatology
that we call autism.

336
00:17:42,609 --> 00:17:44,776
This is now probably
the mid-90s.

337
00:17:44,809 --> 00:17:48,908
I came to notice that there
was A, a very high use

338
00:17:48,942 --> 00:17:52,209
of antibiotics amongst
these children, but B,

339
00:17:52,242 --> 00:17:55,843
what became pretty interesting
was seeing the number

340
00:17:55,875 --> 00:17:58,709
of families who were reporting

341
00:17:58,743 --> 00:18:02,142
that their child had
a regressive type

342
00:18:02,175 --> 00:18:06,209
of behavior occur right
after their vaccinations.

343
00:18:06,242 --> 00:18:09,476
A lot of these parents
were showing me footage

344
00:18:09,509 --> 00:18:14,942
of their children who had been
completely developing normally

345
00:18:14,975 --> 00:18:19,376
until 18 months, and then all
of a sudden, post-vaccination,

346
00:18:19,409 --> 00:18:22,509
developed incredible regression.

347
00:18:22,542 --> 00:18:26,576
Children who had speech anywhere
close to 50 to 100 words,

348
00:18:26,609 --> 00:18:29,109
and had completely lost
all of their words.

349
00:18:29,142 --> 00:18:32,509
Children who were extremely
attached and interactive

350
00:18:32,542 --> 00:18:35,843
with their parents had
suddenly become isolated,

351
00:18:35,875 --> 00:18:38,709
no longer responding
to their own name.

352
00:18:38,743 --> 00:18:42,209
This was all happening right
after their MMR vaccines.

353
00:18:53,542 --> 00:18:58,109
My oldest son, Ian, was born
normal, developing normally.

354
00:18:58,142 --> 00:19:00,875
He was this beautiful
boy, and we ended

355
00:19:00,908 --> 00:19:03,642
up at our 12-month visit,
which is his one year,

356
00:19:03,676 --> 00:19:06,342
then they gave him
multiple vaccines at once,

357
00:19:06,376 --> 00:19:10,242
and within 7 days,
he had a 104 fever,

358
00:19:10,275 --> 00:19:12,875
and a rash all over his body.

359
00:19:12,908 --> 00:19:18,175
He had previously been noted,
and in our videos, home videos,

360
00:19:18,209 --> 00:19:22,309
that he was walking, and
actually running at that point.

361
00:19:22,342 --> 00:19:25,676
Seven days after the vaccine, he
was no longer able to do that.

362
00:19:48,242 --> 00:19:49,275
He was falling down.

363
00:19:49,309 --> 00:19:52,409
He became a really
sick, sick little boy.

364
00:19:54,242 --> 00:19:57,476
So the question for those
of us investigating autism,

365
00:19:57,509 --> 00:20:01,908
is age of exposure to
MMR, a risk for autism.

366
00:20:01,942 --> 00:20:04,209
And in order to understand
why that might be,

367
00:20:04,242 --> 00:20:09,209
you have to understand something
of the history of MMR vaccine.

368
00:20:09,242 --> 00:20:13,342
In 1987, there was an MMR
vaccine that was being used

369
00:20:13,376 --> 00:20:15,609
in Canada, produced by
Smith-Kline-Beecham,

370
00:20:15,642 --> 00:20:18,809
and that vaccine
caused meningitis.

371
00:20:18,843 --> 00:20:20,142
It was recognized quickly,

372
00:20:20,175 --> 00:20:23,376
and that vaccine was
withdrawn in Canada.

373
00:20:23,409 --> 00:20:27,875
However, in the same month that
it was withdrawn in Ontario,

374
00:20:27,908 --> 00:20:32,109
it was licensed in the U.K.,
the name was simply changed

375
00:20:32,142 --> 00:20:35,642
from Trivirix, to Pluserix,
in the U.K. it was used

376
00:20:35,676 --> 00:20:38,709
for four years, and likewise,
caused meningitis and had

377
00:20:38,743 --> 00:20:39,975
to be rapidly withdrawn.

378
00:20:40,008 --> 00:20:41,342
There was a public outcry.

379
00:20:41,376 --> 00:20:44,609
There was an acute loss of
confidence by the public

380
00:20:44,642 --> 00:20:48,908
in vaccine policy makers,
and the vaccine should

381
00:20:48,942 --> 00:20:51,209
at that point have
been destroyed.

382
00:20:51,242 --> 00:20:52,409
It wasn't.

383
00:20:52,442 --> 00:20:55,008
It was then shipped to
developing countries

384
00:20:55,042 --> 00:20:59,209
like Brazil, where it was used
in a mass vaccination campaign,

385
00:20:59,242 --> 00:21:02,442
and there was an
epidemic of meningitis,

386
00:21:02,476 --> 00:21:05,008
which was entirely predictable.

387
00:21:05,042 --> 00:21:09,709
Now scientists studied that
epidemic, and what they found is

388
00:21:09,743 --> 00:21:14,509
that the risk for meningitis was
associated with age of exposure.

389
00:21:14,542 --> 00:21:17,743
The younger you got
the MMR vaccine,

390
00:21:17,776 --> 00:21:20,209
the greater the risk
for meningitis.

391
00:21:20,242 --> 00:21:22,843
For people like me
investigating autism,

392
00:21:22,875 --> 00:21:26,843
the question was is there
a similar risk in autism?

393
00:21:26,875 --> 00:21:31,875
Is age of exposure to MMR
a risk for autism just

394
00:21:31,908 --> 00:21:34,843
as it was for meningitis?

395
00:21:34,875 --> 00:21:40,109
We shared with the U.S. Congress
and the CDC the hypothesis.

396
00:21:40,142 --> 00:21:43,442
The story as told to us, and
which we have an obligation

397
00:21:43,476 --> 00:21:45,476
to report is that the majority

398
00:21:45,509 --> 00:21:49,776
of children regressed following
a period of normal development

399
00:21:49,809 --> 00:21:52,008
in the face of an
MMR vaccination.

400
00:21:52,042 --> 00:21:54,476
That does not mean it is
the cause of the disease.

401
00:21:54,509 --> 00:21:57,442
The Institute of Medicine
is a body of scientists

402
00:21:57,476 --> 00:22:01,175
and physicians that review the
available data on vaccine safety

403
00:22:01,209 --> 00:22:05,409
and then advise our government
on vaccine research policy.

404
00:22:05,442 --> 00:22:09,542
Well, because Andy Wakefield
had put forth this theory

405
00:22:09,576 --> 00:22:13,376
that the age at which you
receive the MMR may increase

406
00:22:13,409 --> 00:22:16,542
your risk of autism, the
IOM looked to the CDC

407
00:22:16,576 --> 00:22:17,776
to do that very study.

408
00:22:17,809 --> 00:22:19,975
It was a study about timing.

409
00:22:20,008 --> 00:22:24,008
Does the earlier you receive the
MMR vaccine increase the risk

410
00:22:24,042 --> 00:22:25,075
of autism?

411
00:22:25,109 --> 00:22:27,609
When we talk about
the MMR study,

412
00:22:27,642 --> 00:22:31,376
nobody had ever requested
those data,

413
00:22:31,409 --> 00:22:33,975
because it was a big
secret that you could do it.

414
00:22:34,008 --> 00:22:37,908
Thompson told me to email
such and such a person,

415
00:22:37,942 --> 00:22:41,576
and then on the inside,
I also found out that one

416
00:22:41,609 --> 00:22:43,743
of the people preparing
these data sets

417
00:22:43,776 --> 00:22:45,709
for me was Bill Thompson.

418
00:22:45,743 --> 00:22:47,209
They don't really
want people to know

419
00:22:47,242 --> 00:22:49,642
that this data exists,
again, you know?

420
00:22:49,676 --> 00:22:52,142
I just can't believe we
actually got you that data.

421
00:22:52,175 --> 00:22:54,743
Thompson couldn't send
these documents directly

422
00:22:54,776 --> 00:22:58,175
to Brian Hooker, because
that would have been illegal.

423
00:22:58,209 --> 00:23:02,743
What Thompson identified was a
legal loophole that is referred

424
00:23:02,776 --> 00:23:05,109
to as a citizen's request.

425
00:23:05,142 --> 00:23:06,975
That allowed Thompson to deliver

426
00:23:07,008 --> 00:23:10,409
to Brian Hooker potentially
classified information

427
00:23:10,442 --> 00:23:12,175
in a legal way.

428
00:23:16,342 --> 00:23:17,542
You get checked in England,

429
00:23:17,576 --> 00:23:19,476
with your babies,
at certain times.

430
00:23:19,509 --> 00:23:20,875
Health, by health visitors.

431
00:23:20,908 --> 00:23:25,642
So nine months Billy
had his full blown check

432
00:23:25,676 --> 00:23:28,908
and there was no
parental concerns,

433
00:23:28,942 --> 00:23:30,908
baby laughing, babbling,
talking.

434
00:23:30,942 --> 00:23:34,542
So we passed that
with flying colors.

435
00:23:34,576 --> 00:23:38,209
Eighteen months is when they
next come in, and by this time,

436
00:23:38,242 --> 00:23:41,776
we know there is something
seriously wrong with Billy.

437
00:23:41,809 --> 00:23:44,743
Probably within
five or six days,

438
00:23:44,776 --> 00:23:47,975
the first signs really
was this vacancy.

439
00:23:48,008 --> 00:23:51,908
He wasn't the same smiley
little baby that he was before.

440
00:23:51,942 --> 00:23:54,609
He had a blank expression.

441
00:23:54,642 --> 00:23:57,342
Then the diarrhea kicked in.

442
00:23:57,376 --> 00:24:00,975
His tummy started to get
bigger and bigger, bloated.

443
00:24:01,008 --> 00:24:02,843
Rock hard bloated tummy.

444
00:24:02,875 --> 00:24:04,476
He would start to
walk on tiptoes.

445
00:24:04,509 --> 00:24:10,843
His hair fell out, and this
dreadful, high-pitched scream,

446
00:24:10,875 --> 00:24:13,676
sort of whiny scream
developed from him,

447
00:24:13,709 --> 00:24:15,676
and then came the head banging.

448
00:24:15,709 --> 00:24:17,743
The constant banging
against his crib.

449
00:24:17,776 --> 00:24:21,309
The constant banging against
the floor or a wall or anything

450
00:24:21,342 --> 00:24:23,709
that he could find
to bang his head on,

451
00:24:23,743 --> 00:24:25,908
he would thrash it,
and thrash it.

452
00:24:25,942 --> 00:24:28,809
Jon and I would lie in bed
at night just listening

453
00:24:28,843 --> 00:24:33,709
to this thud, thud,
thud,.

454
00:24:33,743 --> 00:24:35,075
Thud.

455
00:24:35,109 --> 00:24:37,676
There's nothing... now not
even noticing his sister he used

456
00:24:37,709 --> 00:24:39,042
to play with.

457
00:24:39,075 --> 00:24:42,309
Jon comes through the front
door after work, no recognition

458
00:24:42,342 --> 00:24:45,509
that we were his parents, or
that this child even belonged

459
00:24:45,542 --> 00:24:47,109
to us, nothing, nothing.

460
00:24:47,142 --> 00:24:48,442
Gone.

461
00:24:53,509 --> 00:24:58,242
I mean, that was the
time where, our boy changed

462
00:24:58,275 --> 00:25:07,309
from what he was, to a real
tragic, tragic case of a child

463
00:25:12,275 --> 00:25:19,209
who regressed into this autistic
state, and lost everything.

464
00:25:20,509 --> 00:25:22,642
Lost everything.

465
00:25:27,075 --> 00:25:30,743
The CDC, the way that
they do research studies is

466
00:25:30,776 --> 00:25:33,042
very reactionary.

467
00:25:33,075 --> 00:25:35,942
They look at something
that is creating the press,

468
00:25:35,975 --> 00:25:39,442
and creating a buzz, that could
actually lower vaccination

469
00:25:39,476 --> 00:25:41,509
rates, and that's
what they study.

470
00:25:41,542 --> 00:25:44,008
They don't study
vaccines proactively.

471
00:25:44,042 --> 00:25:48,109
So if Andy had never done
his original study and gotten

472
00:25:48,142 --> 00:25:49,809
that published in The Lancet,

473
00:25:49,843 --> 00:25:52,542
would have never
created the uproar

474
00:25:52,576 --> 00:25:54,809
that rightfully it
should have created,

475
00:25:54,843 --> 00:25:57,776
then the CDC would have
never studied this.

476
00:25:59,942 --> 00:26:02,209
The press conference for
The Lancet paper was called

477
00:26:02,242 --> 00:26:04,576
by the Dean of the medical
school, who was the Chairman

478
00:26:04,609 --> 00:26:07,175
of the Media Committee.

479
00:26:15,275 --> 00:26:18,809
I had done an
extensive research

480
00:26:18,843 --> 00:26:23,008
into measles vaccine safety
and MMR vaccine safety

481
00:26:23,042 --> 00:26:24,809
in the pre-licensing phase.

482
00:26:24,843 --> 00:26:28,142
In other words, what safety
studies had been done before

483
00:26:28,175 --> 00:26:31,642
these vaccines were put onto
the market and into children?

484
00:26:31,676 --> 00:26:35,942
The 250 page report
was compiled by me,

485
00:26:35,975 --> 00:26:39,576
showing that the vaccine
safety studies for MMR

486
00:26:39,609 --> 00:26:42,975
in particular, were lamentable.

487
00:26:43,008 --> 00:26:44,275
They were lamentable.

488
00:26:44,309 --> 00:26:47,075
Many, many assumptions have
been made about the safety

489
00:26:47,109 --> 00:26:49,843
of this vaccine, and
there had been problems

490
00:26:49,875 --> 00:26:52,743
which had been airbrushed.

491
00:26:52,776 --> 00:26:56,509
So I wrote to my
colleagues, and the Dean,

492
00:26:56,542 --> 00:26:59,875
and I said going forward there
are going to be questions

493
00:26:59,908 --> 00:27:02,008
about what parents
should do next.

494
00:27:02,042 --> 00:27:04,908
I cannot in due conscience
support continued use

495
00:27:04,942 --> 00:27:07,509
of the MMR vaccine,
having done this research.

496
00:27:07,542 --> 00:27:10,509
I said, I will continue to
vigorously support the use

497
00:27:10,542 --> 00:27:12,275
of the single vaccine.

498
00:27:12,309 --> 00:27:16,709
But can no longer support the
use of the triple MMR vaccine.

499
00:27:16,743 --> 00:27:18,442
So the dean, the chairman

500
00:27:18,476 --> 00:27:20,209
of that committee,
had three choices.

501
00:27:20,242 --> 00:27:24,109
He could have not had
a press conference.

502
00:27:24,142 --> 00:27:27,743
He could have banned me
from the press conference,

503
00:27:27,776 --> 00:27:31,743
or when the question came
up, as inevitably it would,

504
00:27:31,776 --> 00:27:35,042
what do parents do next about
vaccinating their children?

505
00:27:35,075 --> 00:27:36,743
He knew what my response
would be.

506
00:27:36,776 --> 00:27:40,142
He could deflect the
question to someone else.

507
00:27:40,175 --> 00:27:42,042
When the question
came up on the day,

508
00:27:42,075 --> 00:27:43,209
he directed it straight to me.

509
00:27:54,908 --> 00:27:58,175
All I recommended at
that press conference was

510
00:27:58,209 --> 00:28:02,175
that parents opt for the
use of the single vaccines.

511
00:28:02,209 --> 00:28:05,843
Single measles, single
mumps, single rubella,

512
00:28:05,875 --> 00:28:10,109
until the issue had been
resolved scientifically.

513
00:28:10,142 --> 00:28:13,042
What happened when I
made that recommendation,

514
00:28:13,075 --> 00:28:15,942
unilateral decisions were made
by the government in the U.K.

515
00:28:15,975 --> 00:28:20,209
to withdraw the importation
license for the single vaccines,

516
00:28:20,242 --> 00:28:23,409
Merck opting in the U.S.
to cease the production

517
00:28:23,442 --> 00:28:26,709
of the single vaccines,
giving parents no option.

518
00:28:26,743 --> 00:28:29,342
I said to a senior
representative to the Department

519
00:28:29,376 --> 00:28:32,709
of Health, why, if your
objective is to protect children

520
00:28:32,743 --> 00:28:34,776
against serious infectious
disease,

521
00:28:34,809 --> 00:28:38,442
why would you take away the
option of how parents do that?

522
00:28:38,476 --> 00:28:41,175
And she said "because if
we allow parents the choice

523
00:28:41,209 --> 00:28:45,342
of single vaccines, it would
destroy our MMR program."

524
00:28:45,376 --> 00:28:48,442
In other words, the concern
was for the protection

525
00:28:48,476 --> 00:28:52,075
of the program, over and above
the protection of children.

526
00:28:56,242 --> 00:28:58,776
No one's career
has ever been advanced

527
00:28:58,809 --> 00:29:02,908
in the medical industrial
complex by being outwardly

528
00:29:02,942 --> 00:29:05,975
and openly critical of
the vaccine industry.

529
00:29:06,008 --> 00:29:09,743
I'm Mark Blaxill, father
of a daughter diagnosed

530
00:29:09,776 --> 00:29:12,709
with autism back in 1998.

531
00:29:12,743 --> 00:29:15,709
I've written two books that have
come out of the autism movement,

532
00:29:15,743 --> 00:29:20,509
that have been projected into
autism advocacy ever since.

533
00:29:20,542 --> 00:29:22,242
Michaela was born typical.

534
00:29:22,275 --> 00:29:23,809
Everything was fine.

535
00:29:23,843 --> 00:29:26,209
She was developing normally
through her first birthday.

536
00:29:26,242 --> 00:29:30,342
We had vivid memories of,
you know, early language,

537
00:29:30,376 --> 00:29:32,242
joined attention, lots of play.

538
00:29:32,275 --> 00:29:35,042
She was adorable,
beautiful, cute.

539
00:29:35,075 --> 00:29:39,809
And then somewhere in the months
after she began to slip away,

540
00:29:39,843 --> 00:29:42,942
and she lost language,
and she began to retreat

541
00:29:42,975 --> 00:29:45,075
into a world of her own.

542
00:29:45,109 --> 00:29:50,442
And at 2 years, 9 months,
we got a formal diagnosis

543
00:29:50,476 --> 00:29:52,776
of a full syndrome autism.

544
00:29:52,809 --> 00:29:56,342
It was a hopeless,
pessimistic future

545
00:29:56,376 --> 00:29:57,709
that was laid out
in front of us.

546
00:29:57,743 --> 00:30:00,075
She was going to be disabled
for the rest of her life,

547
00:30:00,109 --> 00:30:04,409
likely to be non-vocal,
in an institution,

548
00:30:04,442 --> 00:30:09,242
and that the best thing we could
do was to accept the inevitable.

549
00:30:09,275 --> 00:30:13,409
Part of the story we heard
from the Harvard experts was

550
00:30:13,442 --> 00:30:17,042
that autism was genetic,
it was low

551
00:30:17,075 --> 00:30:19,509
and relatively constant
prevalence.

552
00:30:19,542 --> 00:30:21,642
The more I learned,
the more clear was

553
00:30:21,676 --> 00:30:25,008
that that whole orthodox
view was false.

554
00:30:25,042 --> 00:30:25,975
Completely false.

555
00:30:26,008 --> 00:30:28,209
Revolutions only
happen in science

556
00:30:28,242 --> 00:30:30,075
when there is an anomaly.

557
00:30:30,109 --> 00:30:33,075
An anomaly that the old
orthodoxy can't explain.

558
00:30:33,109 --> 00:30:34,576
With autism, the anomaly
was the explosion in cases,

559
00:30:34,609 --> 00:30:36,875
which meant that what people
were trying to describe

560
00:30:36,908 --> 00:30:40,242
as a genetic, neurologically
based condition couldn't

561
00:30:40,275 --> 00:30:41,509
be genetic.

562
00:30:41,542 --> 00:30:42,875
It could only be environmental.

563
00:30:42,908 --> 00:30:44,275
It could only be
some set of things

564
00:30:44,309 --> 00:30:46,109
that happened to children.

565
00:30:46,142 --> 00:30:50,642
And you had to ask the question
what might it have been?

566
00:30:54,309 --> 00:30:58,542
One of my personal training
clients was the Director

567
00:30:58,576 --> 00:31:02,309
of Programs for LWT
London Weekend Television.

568
00:31:02,342 --> 00:31:05,776
And this guy said why
don't you do a program,

569
00:31:05,809 --> 00:31:08,743
and people out there,
there may be someone

570
00:31:08,776 --> 00:31:10,142
out there with this condition.

571
00:31:10,175 --> 00:31:12,709
He said this is going to
be an unbelievable story.

572
00:31:12,743 --> 00:31:14,809
And we thought we've got
nothing to lose, right now,

573
00:31:14,843 --> 00:31:18,008
this child is either going to
kill himself because he's going

574
00:31:18,042 --> 00:31:20,843
to smash his head to pieces,
or we're going to go insane,

575
00:31:20,875 --> 00:31:22,809
because everybody
here is miserable.

576
00:31:22,843 --> 00:31:30,576
That program was aired, and
we received 250,000 email hits.

577
00:31:30,609 --> 00:31:32,509
Computers were
kind of new then,

578
00:31:32,542 --> 00:31:34,042
the whole internet
computer thing.

579
00:31:34,075 --> 00:31:35,442
Ours crashed.

580
00:31:35,476 --> 00:31:37,509
We set up a Billy website, you
know, just in case somebody...

581
00:31:37,542 --> 00:31:40,109
one person, might
be able to help us.

582
00:31:40,142 --> 00:31:42,908
Crashed. The television
station's computers crashed.

583
00:31:42,942 --> 00:31:46,409
They had never seen
anything like this before.

584
00:31:46,442 --> 00:31:50,776
The parents had exactly
the same story as us.

585
00:31:50,809 --> 00:31:54,442
Antibiotics, some with
chicken pox, a lot vaccine.

586
00:31:54,476 --> 00:31:57,642
Bang, the symptoms all the same.

587
00:31:57,676 --> 00:32:01,776
The diarrhea, the constipation,
the high-pitched scream,

588
00:32:01,809 --> 00:32:04,175
the banging of the head,
we've all lived through it.

589
00:32:04,209 --> 00:32:05,576
It was the same story.

590
00:32:05,609 --> 00:32:09,242
And it was Polly's idea to
put all of this stuff together

591
00:32:09,275 --> 00:32:12,809
in a magazine called
The Autism File.

592
00:32:12,843 --> 00:32:16,376
They all ask the questions,
and maybe someone can help.

593
00:32:16,409 --> 00:32:20,843
These questions from these
parents were not being answered

594
00:32:20,875 --> 00:32:23,975
by the doctors that
they went to see.

595
00:32:24,008 --> 00:32:26,576
They came to us out
of desperation,

596
00:32:26,609 --> 00:32:31,109
and we had 45,000
subscribers within four months.

597
00:32:34,676 --> 00:32:38,609
When I originally
got the MMR autism data,

598
00:32:38,642 --> 00:32:42,075
I came up with my own
analysis plan, and I stepped

599
00:32:42,109 --> 00:32:43,809
through logically

600
00:32:43,843 --> 00:32:47,376
and systematically how the data
should have been approached.

601
00:32:47,409 --> 00:32:52,109
I looked first of all
at males versus females.

602
00:32:52,142 --> 00:32:55,875
Then I looked at black
males, the relative risk

603
00:32:55,908 --> 00:33:00,142
of them receiving an autism
diagnosis was astronomical,

604
00:33:00,175 --> 00:33:02,709
and it was highly
statistically significant.

605
00:33:02,743 --> 00:33:06,442
I really had to scratch my
head and say I know nothing

606
00:33:06,476 --> 00:33:08,242
about the MMR vaccine.

607
00:33:08,275 --> 00:33:11,709
And so that's when I
originally called Andy.

608
00:33:11,743 --> 00:33:15,242
Wow, really?

609
00:33:15,275 --> 00:33:16,942
After everything
that had happened,

610
00:33:16,975 --> 00:33:18,875
everything that we
had all been through,

611
00:33:18,908 --> 00:33:22,975
everything the families had
suffered for the last 15 years,

612
00:33:23,008 --> 00:33:28,975
and the CDC had known all along
there was this MMR autism risk.

613
00:33:29,008 --> 00:33:32,309
As I started to divulge
more of the conversations,

614
00:33:32,342 --> 00:33:38,576
and I think it really hit him,
that this was a major crack

615
00:33:38,609 --> 00:33:41,008
in the wall of the CDC.

616
00:33:41,042 --> 00:33:44,542
The first thing that Thompson
did was to plot a graph.

617
00:33:44,576 --> 00:33:49,309
A graph of percentage of
children vaccinated against age

618
00:33:49,342 --> 00:33:51,809
at first MMR vaccination.

619
00:33:51,843 --> 00:33:55,075
The children with autism are
represented by the pink line.

620
00:33:55,109 --> 00:33:57,609
The children without
autism by the blue line.

621
00:33:57,642 --> 00:34:00,709
Now, if there's no link
between early MMR and autism,

622
00:34:00,743 --> 00:34:03,209
those two lines should
track together,

623
00:34:03,242 --> 00:34:04,676
whatever the age at first MMR.

624
00:34:04,709 --> 00:34:07,542
And they do track again.

625
00:34:07,576 --> 00:34:10,075
Until they get to 15
months, then they separate,

626
00:34:10,109 --> 00:34:13,908
then they continue to
separate thereafter.

627
00:34:13,942 --> 00:34:16,275
This was their first indication

628
00:34:16,309 --> 00:34:19,342
that MMR vaccine
was causing autism.

629
00:34:19,376 --> 00:34:22,576
And that finding alone rocked
Thompson back on his heels.

630
00:34:22,609 --> 00:34:25,743
This was a huge
issue for Andy.

631
00:34:25,776 --> 00:34:28,776
So I said to Brian,
Brian are you recording

632
00:34:28,809 --> 00:34:30,275
these conversations?

633
00:34:30,309 --> 00:34:33,908
Recording phone conversations
was not really palatable to me.

634
00:34:33,942 --> 00:34:35,376
Almost seemed cruel.

635
00:34:35,409 --> 00:34:39,309
Whistle blowers can disappear
as easily as they came.

636
00:34:39,342 --> 00:34:42,209
They're like a fish on
a hook, and your job is

637
00:34:42,242 --> 00:34:44,109
to get them into the boat.

638
00:34:49,609 --> 00:34:52,342
Temple walked at 12
months, so he had been walking

639
00:34:52,376 --> 00:34:54,809
for an entire month
before we went

640
00:34:54,843 --> 00:34:57,743
in for the next set
of vaccinations.

641
00:34:57,776 --> 00:35:00,676
The minute we walked into
the pediatric office,

642
00:35:00,709 --> 00:35:05,175
Lou, his twin, she is
screaming her head off,

643
00:35:05,209 --> 00:35:07,409
I mean she knows
what's going on.

644
00:35:07,442 --> 00:35:09,476
She doesn't want the
doctor touching her.

645
00:35:09,509 --> 00:35:12,409
I look up, and there's she's
got the shots lined up,

646
00:35:12,442 --> 00:35:14,875
three for him, three for her.

647
00:35:14,908 --> 00:35:18,542
By the second shot, Lucinda
had flipped herself over,

648
00:35:18,576 --> 00:35:22,609
so I had to stop looking
at what I was doing,

649
00:35:22,642 --> 00:35:24,442
unstrap her, get her out.

650
00:35:24,476 --> 00:35:26,075
Well, the minute I get
her out and I calm her

651
00:35:26,109 --> 00:35:29,542
down a little bit, and I
look over, he's screaming,

652
00:35:29,576 --> 00:35:32,075
I look at the shots,
and I notice

653
00:35:32,109 --> 00:35:35,008
that one of hers was gone.

654
00:35:35,042 --> 00:35:36,776
There are only two
shots left for her.

655
00:35:36,809 --> 00:35:40,309
And I asked the nurse
practitioner, I said,

656
00:35:40,342 --> 00:35:41,743
what happened to
that other shot?

657
00:35:41,776 --> 00:35:45,275
She says "Oh, oh my
goodness, I gave it to him."

658
00:35:45,309 --> 00:35:47,175
I said which one was it?

659
00:35:47,209 --> 00:35:49,309
She said it was the other MMR.

660
00:35:49,342 --> 00:35:50,908
I said call the doctor.

661
00:35:50,942 --> 00:35:53,209
This baby is screaming
his head off.

662
00:35:53,242 --> 00:35:54,609
You've given him an extra shot.

663
00:35:54,642 --> 00:35:57,209
I don't know what the effect
of that is going to be.

664
00:35:57,242 --> 00:35:57,942
We're leaving.

665
00:35:57,975 --> 00:35:58,975
And I left.

666
00:35:59,008 --> 00:36:00,676
So she never got her shots.

667
00:36:00,709 --> 00:36:03,942
I go home, this baby
cried, cried, cried.

668
00:36:03,975 --> 00:36:06,275
I put him down on
his little blanket,

669
00:36:06,309 --> 00:36:08,376
he starts banging his
head on the floor,

670
00:36:08,409 --> 00:36:10,709
banging his head on the floor.

671
00:36:10,743 --> 00:36:16,209
The next morning, I go in
his room, and he's staring

672
00:36:16,242 --> 00:36:18,709
into space, and he's
looking around like this.

673
00:36:18,743 --> 00:36:24,109
As if, you know,
he's a bit paralyzed.

674
00:36:24,142 --> 00:36:27,142
Not the baby who was always
doing this every morning,

675
00:36:27,175 --> 00:36:29,642
smiling for me to
get him out of bed.

676
00:36:29,676 --> 00:36:34,676
And I pick him up,
and he does this.

677
00:36:34,709 --> 00:36:38,275
And I said, what has
happened to my baby?

678
00:36:38,309 --> 00:36:39,609
So I call the clinic.

679
00:36:39,642 --> 00:36:44,309
And I said I think my child
has had an adverse reaction

680
00:36:44,342 --> 00:36:46,809
to those shots yesterday.

681
00:36:46,843 --> 00:36:49,008
She says "No, no, no.

682
00:36:49,042 --> 00:36:51,642
I'm waiting for the
representative from Merck.

683
00:36:51,676 --> 00:36:53,576
I don't think it's
a reaction to that."

684
00:37:00,542 --> 00:37:03,576
Bill Thompson looked
at African Americans,

685
00:37:03,609 --> 00:37:07,242
he saw that those African
Americans that got the MMR

686
00:37:07,275 --> 00:37:10,975
on time were 2.64
times more likely

687
00:37:11,008 --> 00:37:14,709
to get an autism diagnosis
than those African Americans

688
00:37:14,743 --> 00:37:17,275
that receive the MMR
after three years of age.

689
00:37:17,309 --> 00:37:20,908
So what Bill is suggesting
is that among the blacks,

690
00:37:20,942 --> 00:37:24,442
the ones that were getting
vaccinated earlier were more

691
00:37:24,476 --> 00:37:25,942
likely to have autism.

692
00:37:25,975 --> 00:37:30,209
At that point, the group of
researchers that was working

693
00:37:30,242 --> 00:37:33,442
on this particular study they
were having weekly meetings.

694
00:37:33,476 --> 00:37:36,476
Coleen Boyle, who was the head

695
00:37:36,509 --> 00:37:39,409
of developmental
disabilities branch

696
00:37:39,442 --> 00:37:41,542
and Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop,

697
00:37:41,576 --> 00:37:44,008
who was one of Thompson's
direct supervisors.

698
00:37:44,042 --> 00:37:46,642
Frank DeStefano,
who was the head

699
00:37:46,676 --> 00:37:48,809
of the Immunization
Safety Office,

700
00:37:48,843 --> 00:37:53,042
and a post-doctoral research
associate named Tanya Bhasin.

701
00:37:53,075 --> 00:37:56,042
In that meeting, Thompson
brought up the fact

702
00:37:56,075 --> 00:38:01,042
that African Americans were
showing a highly statistically

703
00:38:01,075 --> 00:38:05,676
significant risk of autism
if they got the MMR on time.

704
00:38:05,709 --> 00:38:09,275
What is said in these
closed door meetings?

705
00:38:09,309 --> 00:38:12,476
I mean, do people say well
oh, this is unacceptable,

706
00:38:12,509 --> 00:38:15,676
or is it just do they always
say oh this can't be right?

707
00:38:15,709 --> 00:38:16,376
Or?

708
00:38:16,409 --> 00:38:17,609
I'm not going to lie.

709
00:38:17,642 --> 00:38:22,409
But I also don't want to
say things to you right now

710
00:38:22,442 --> 00:38:28,242
that aren't, that
aren't some written form.

711
00:38:28,275 --> 00:38:29,609
Right.

712
00:38:29,642 --> 00:38:35,175
The analysis regarding the
African Americans was the 8

713
00:38:35,209 --> 00:38:40,975
on the Richter scale earthquake
that just shook through the CDC.

714
00:38:41,008 --> 00:38:45,275
I take him to see the
pediatrician that I know.

715
00:38:45,309 --> 00:38:48,609
And she looks at me, she closes
the door, and she whispers.

716
00:38:48,642 --> 00:38:51,942
She says, "Sheila, I
believe he has autism."

717
00:38:51,975 --> 00:38:52,942
I said, "What?

718
00:38:52,975 --> 00:38:54,942
Like Rainman?"

719
00:38:54,975 --> 00:38:56,776
She says, "Something like that.

720
00:38:56,809 --> 00:38:59,309
I'm going to refer
y'all to a neurologist."

721
00:38:59,342 --> 00:39:02,642
And we go see the
neurologist the next week.

722
00:39:02,676 --> 00:39:07,509
He says he has every
classical symptom of autism.

723
00:39:07,542 --> 00:39:08,642
I do not believe this.

724
00:39:08,676 --> 00:39:09,776
I was angry.

725
00:39:09,809 --> 00:39:13,175
When he explained it
to me what autism is,

726
00:39:13,209 --> 00:39:14,776
he told me he was born that way.

727
00:39:14,809 --> 00:39:16,776
I said, no he wasn't.

728
00:39:16,809 --> 00:39:19,142
Clearly, there was a
very high risk of autism

729
00:39:19,175 --> 00:39:20,476
in African American children.

730
00:39:20,509 --> 00:39:21,776
Here's the thing.

731
00:39:21,809 --> 00:39:24,576
We know that autism is four
times more common in boys.

732
00:39:24,609 --> 00:39:26,442
And so to see that
effect mirrored

733
00:39:26,476 --> 00:39:29,875
in the African American children
was a compelling finding.

734
00:39:29,908 --> 00:39:33,908
When I looked at
African American males only,

735
00:39:33,942 --> 00:39:36,609
the relative risk was 3.36.

736
00:39:36,642 --> 00:39:38,275
It just blew my mind.

737
00:39:38,309 --> 00:39:42,576
And that's when I wanted to
call Bill Thompson on the phone.

738
00:39:42,609 --> 00:39:44,442
And his statement to me was "Oh!

739
00:39:44,476 --> 00:39:45,709
You found it."

740
00:39:45,743 --> 00:39:49,809
It appears in the final
publication is that race

741
00:39:49,843 --> 00:39:51,342
in general is downplayed.

742
00:39:51,376 --> 00:39:53,576
Of course it is!

743
00:40:06,142 --> 00:40:08,342
Temple's twin is amazing.

744
00:40:08,376 --> 00:40:11,642
She is fluent in
three languages.

745
00:40:11,676 --> 00:40:14,342
She speaks French like a native.

746
00:40:14,376 --> 00:40:17,242
She is an A student.

747
00:40:17,275 --> 00:40:20,309
She plays classical piano.

748
00:40:20,342 --> 00:40:24,509
With all of the guilt
that I feel from that day,

749
00:40:24,542 --> 00:40:28,342
one of the best decisions I
made for her was to walk out of

750
00:40:28,376 --> 00:40:30,642
that office without
her being vaccinated.

751
00:40:30,676 --> 00:40:34,908
At the end of this journey,
I don't want to be one

752
00:40:34,942 --> 00:40:37,409
of those mothers standing there
saying I wish, I would have,

753
00:40:37,442 --> 00:40:39,109
could have, should have done.

754
00:40:39,142 --> 00:40:44,175
I want to be able to say I
gave it everything that I had.

755
00:40:44,209 --> 00:40:45,743
I gave it my best shot.

756
00:40:45,776 --> 00:40:50,776
His twin is going into the
11th grade and for someone

757
00:40:50,809 --> 00:40:53,542
who still can't manage
to cross the street.

758
00:40:53,576 --> 00:40:56,476
Now, am I grateful he's here?

759
00:40:56,509 --> 00:41:00,109
You bet. I'm grateful
my son lived ,

760
00:41:00,142 --> 00:41:06,376
I was so naïve that he
would live a fulfilling life.

761
00:41:06,409 --> 00:41:11,209
He would end up being
a happy man.

762
00:41:11,242 --> 00:41:13,843
Having a family.

763
00:41:13,875 --> 00:41:15,509
My dreams for him.

764
00:41:15,542 --> 00:41:24,576
And every year that goes
by, the older my son gets,

765
00:41:25,542 --> 00:41:29,109
the further that
dream seems to be.

766
00:41:30,209 --> 00:41:33,309
All about vaccines!

767
00:41:33,342 --> 00:41:35,875
So what do vaccines do?

768
00:41:35,908 --> 00:41:37,875
Vaccines build up
your immune system

769
00:41:37,908 --> 00:41:39,809
and make you stronger
to fight off disease.

770
00:41:39,843 --> 00:41:41,609
Are vaccines safe?

771
00:41:41,642 --> 00:41:43,476
Yes. The studies
involving millions

772
00:41:43,509 --> 00:41:45,609
of children have
shown no connection

773
00:41:45,642 --> 00:41:47,342
between vaccines and autism.

774
00:41:47,376 --> 00:41:50,209
Stick to the schedule.

775
00:41:50,242 --> 00:41:53,242
The CDC's own vaccine
schedule, which we are required

776
00:41:53,275 --> 00:41:56,242
to adhere to as parents
in America recommends

777
00:41:56,275 --> 00:42:00,509
that our children get the
MMR between 12 and 18 months.

778
00:42:00,542 --> 00:42:03,042
But in this hidden
data, provided to us

779
00:42:03,075 --> 00:42:07,242
by William Thompson, it is clear
that for African Americans,

780
00:42:07,275 --> 00:42:09,442
this is actually the
most dangerous time

781
00:42:09,476 --> 00:42:10,975
to deliver the MMR.

782
00:42:11,008 --> 00:42:13,642
The CDC in my
opinion is one of the-

783
00:42:13,676 --> 00:42:15,376
where I go to if
I need information

784
00:42:15,409 --> 00:42:16,509
about an infectious disease.

785
00:42:16,542 --> 00:42:19,109
I probably either
go on their website,

786
00:42:19,142 --> 00:42:22,642
or open one of the
reference books every day.

787
00:42:22,676 --> 00:42:25,409
That building is filled
with a lot of scientists

788
00:42:25,442 --> 00:42:27,442
that are smarter than me.

789
00:42:37,509 --> 00:42:40,175
The analysis plan is one
of the most important parts

790
00:42:40,209 --> 00:42:41,908
of the scientific study.

791
00:42:41,942 --> 00:42:45,642
It's the laws or the rules by
which the scientist will adhere

792
00:42:45,676 --> 00:42:47,809
to while doing the study.

793
00:42:47,843 --> 00:42:50,209
And this analysis
plan is put together

794
00:42:50,242 --> 00:42:51,542
by the scientists themselves.

795
00:42:51,576 --> 00:42:53,609
Sometimes their superior's
way in.

796
00:42:53,642 --> 00:42:57,209
But once they've locked
that analysis plan.

797
00:42:57,242 --> 00:43:00,242
They said this is how we
are going to use the data.

798
00:43:00,275 --> 00:43:03,676
And you can't deviate
from that analysis plan,

799
00:43:03,709 --> 00:43:05,409
or you're at risk for fraud.

800
00:43:05,442 --> 00:43:06,809
Scientific fraud.

801
00:43:06,843 --> 00:43:09,275
Did they deviate from
the analysis plan

802
00:43:09,309 --> 00:43:12,042
after seeing something
they didn't like?

803
00:43:12,075 --> 00:43:15,342
If they did, we have
a real problem.

804
00:43:15,376 --> 00:43:18,908
Thompson not only
played a major role

805
00:43:18,942 --> 00:43:23,008
in developing the analysis
plan, he was the numbers guy.

806
00:43:23,042 --> 00:43:26,042
He was responsible for
collecting the data,

807
00:43:26,075 --> 00:43:28,875
analyzing the data, and
presenting the results,

808
00:43:28,908 --> 00:43:32,676
and by November 2001,
the results were in.

809
00:43:32,709 --> 00:43:36,542
Now with the MMR
autism one, the-

810
00:43:36,576 --> 00:43:42,409
we had an analysis plan that
we were supposed to execute,

811
00:43:42,442 --> 00:43:45,175
and it was written,
and you know,

812
00:43:45,209 --> 00:43:48,709
I'm going to be sharing
these draft analysis plans

813
00:43:48,743 --> 00:43:50,042
that we had.

814
00:43:50,075 --> 00:43:52,809
And you can see whether we
did what we were going to do.

815
00:43:52,843 --> 00:43:55,642
That analysis plan
had been agreed upon,

816
00:43:55,676 --> 00:43:59,609
not only by the co-authors,
but also by CDC superiors.

817
00:43:59,642 --> 00:44:02,209
In order to conceal the
effect of the MMR, what they had

818
00:44:02,242 --> 00:44:06,242
to do was reduce the number of
children in the study in order

819
00:44:06,275 --> 00:44:10,609
to reduce what is referred
to as the statistical power.

820
00:44:10,642 --> 00:44:14,509
That is, the ability of the
study to detect a difference

821
00:44:14,542 --> 00:44:16,309
if one genuinely exists.

822
00:44:16,342 --> 00:44:18,342
In the analysis plan,
they had agreed

823
00:44:18,376 --> 00:44:20,609
to use two sources
of information.

824
00:44:20,642 --> 00:44:22,676
The first was the
children's school records,

825
00:44:22,709 --> 00:44:24,809
and the second was the
children's Georgia birth

826
00:44:24,843 --> 00:44:26,109
certificate records.

827
00:44:26,142 --> 00:44:28,776
So while every child in the
study had a school record,

828
00:44:28,809 --> 00:44:30,042
only half of the children

829
00:44:30,075 --> 00:44:31,709
in the study had a Georgia
birth certificate record,

830
00:44:31,743 --> 00:44:34,809
because the other half had
been born in other states.

831
00:44:34,843 --> 00:44:36,843
So the analysis plan
was explicit.

832
00:44:36,875 --> 00:44:39,142
Information on a
child's race was to come

833
00:44:39,175 --> 00:44:41,008
from their school record.

834
00:44:41,042 --> 00:44:44,676
But when confronted by data
that revealed an increased risk

835
00:44:44,709 --> 00:44:47,609
of autism in African American
children, they deviated

836
00:44:47,642 --> 00:44:49,275
from their analysis plan.

837
00:44:49,309 --> 00:44:52,776
They chose to get the race data
not from the school record,

838
00:44:52,809 --> 00:44:54,975
but from the Georgia
birth certificate record.

839
00:44:55,008 --> 00:44:58,142
Instead of having 3,000
individuals in the study,

840
00:44:58,175 --> 00:45:01,209
it went down to about 1,800.

841
00:45:01,242 --> 00:45:06,142
The relative risk went
down from 2.64 to 1.8,

842
00:45:06,175 --> 00:45:07,942
but more importantly,

843
00:45:07,975 --> 00:45:11,642
that relative risk was no longer
statistically significant.

844
00:45:11,676 --> 00:45:14,409
And I'll ask you to step
forward to receive your prize

845
00:45:14,442 --> 00:45:16,576
from the hands of His
Majesty, the King.

846
00:45:22,142 --> 00:45:25,109
I am Luc Montangier, M.D.

847
00:46:24,875 --> 00:46:27,509
Shortly after Julie
Gerberding became head

848
00:46:27,542 --> 00:46:28,642
of the CDC,

849
00:46:28,676 --> 00:46:30,942
I began to communicate with her

850
00:46:30,975 --> 00:46:33,042
and ask her to come
to my office.

851
00:46:33,075 --> 00:46:37,242
There didn't seem to be
objective research going on.

852
00:46:37,275 --> 00:46:42,576
There was the CDC trying
to promote vaccination

853
00:46:42,609 --> 00:46:45,642
for children, and then
they were doing the safety

854
00:46:45,676 --> 00:46:47,109
research themselves.

855
00:46:47,142 --> 00:46:50,342
In CDC's judgment,
the best public policy is

856
00:46:50,376 --> 00:46:53,309
to continue vaccination
unchanged,

857
00:46:53,342 --> 00:46:56,942
while aggressively working
to try to identify causes

858
00:46:56,975 --> 00:46:59,042
of developmental disabilities.

859
00:46:59,075 --> 00:47:02,908
The CDC, I just thought,
was institutionally conflicted.

860
00:47:02,942 --> 00:47:05,275
The CDC can't take
money directly from pharma,

861
00:47:05,309 --> 00:47:06,908
but they can set
up a foundation,

862
00:47:06,942 --> 00:47:09,642
and the foundation
can attract donations

863
00:47:09,676 --> 00:47:11,676
from commercial interests,
and does.

864
00:47:11,709 --> 00:47:15,442
Merck, Glaxo-Smith-Kline,
now Pfizer, Sanofi Aventis,

865
00:47:15,476 --> 00:47:19,209
have huge, multi-billion
dollar vaccine businesses.

866
00:47:19,242 --> 00:47:20,609
They're profitable.

867
00:47:20,642 --> 00:47:24,309
They promote them because some
of these new high-tech vaccines,

868
00:47:24,342 --> 00:47:27,809
that are patented, that are
high priced, get protected

869
00:47:27,843 --> 00:47:31,609
by this little cocoon of
regulatory capture in HHS.

870
00:47:31,642 --> 00:47:36,743
And are guaranteed
multi-billion dollar franchises.

871
00:47:36,776 --> 00:47:40,142
When I was working at Merck,
I was a sales rep for Vioxx.

872
00:47:40,175 --> 00:47:42,609
The whole scandal started
when it was discovered

873
00:47:42,642 --> 00:47:46,509
that Merck had manipulated
data and covered up the fact

874
00:47:46,542 --> 00:47:49,576
that Vioxx actually caused twice
the amount of heart attacks

875
00:47:49,609 --> 00:47:51,542
and strokes than the placebo.

876
00:47:51,576 --> 00:47:53,576
What I learned from
that experience,

877
00:47:53,609 --> 00:47:54,676
just because things are

878
00:47:54,709 --> 00:47:57,809
on the market does not
mean they are safe.

879
00:48:00,442 --> 00:48:02,843
I think we get into a
very dangerous territory

880
00:48:02,875 --> 00:48:04,242
with vaccinations.

881
00:48:04,275 --> 00:48:07,409
If a drug company gets just one
vaccine added to the schedule,

882
00:48:07,442 --> 00:48:11,209
they can make upwards of
$30 billion in one year.

883
00:48:11,242 --> 00:48:12,609
It's no secret.

884
00:48:12,642 --> 00:48:14,776
I think they've published their
intention, which is they want

885
00:48:14,809 --> 00:48:17,008
to create an environment

886
00:48:17,042 --> 00:48:20,175
of constant vaccination
from cradle to grave.

887
00:48:20,209 --> 00:48:23,476
They want infant vaccines
they expanded flu shots,

888
00:48:23,509 --> 00:48:28,042
DTAP boosters, Gardasil
shots, meningococcal shots,

889
00:48:28,075 --> 00:48:31,376
they want adult vaccines, you
know, they want you and me

890
00:48:31,409 --> 00:48:35,008
to come in and get a
constant barrage of shots,

891
00:48:35,042 --> 00:48:37,376
and then they want
vaccines for the elderly.

892
00:48:37,409 --> 00:48:39,875
We have highly
profitable product,

893
00:48:39,908 --> 00:48:42,542
because the safety
testing isn't as rigorous

894
00:48:42,576 --> 00:48:44,309
as a normal pharmaceutical drug.

895
00:48:44,342 --> 00:48:46,209
The gold standard
is double blind,

896
00:48:46,242 --> 00:48:48,942
placebo-based long-term study.

897
00:48:48,975 --> 00:48:52,709
And that just isn't
done with vaccines,

898
00:48:52,743 --> 00:48:54,942
because they're classified
in a different way

899
00:48:54,975 --> 00:48:57,743
as a public health measure,
and they haven't been tested

900
00:48:57,776 --> 00:49:01,676
in combination with other
vaccines, yet doctors give six

901
00:49:01,709 --> 00:49:03,908
to nine doses per visit.

902
00:49:03,942 --> 00:49:05,042
It's insane.

903
00:49:05,075 --> 00:49:08,409
If a pharmaceutical drug
was tested like this,

904
00:49:08,442 --> 00:49:09,743
it wouldn't be on the market.

905
00:49:09,776 --> 00:49:11,175
But because it's a vaccine,

906
00:49:11,209 --> 00:49:14,743
and the safety testing
is less rigorous,

907
00:49:14,776 --> 00:49:17,008
our children are
being experimented on.

908
00:49:17,042 --> 00:49:18,576
I don't like to
look at autism

909
00:49:18,609 --> 00:49:20,042
from a behavioral perspective.

910
00:49:20,075 --> 00:49:23,875
I look at it more from what
causes it in each child.

911
00:49:23,908 --> 00:49:27,809
When I want to define autism, I
have to say it's the inability

912
00:49:27,843 --> 00:49:29,975
to detoxify the way
you're supposed to,

913
00:49:30,008 --> 00:49:32,843
at the rate you're supposed
to, and it all has to do

914
00:49:32,875 --> 00:49:34,542
with this toxic overload.

915
00:49:34,576 --> 00:49:36,942
These children are
not detoxifying

916
00:49:36,975 --> 00:49:38,409
from the vaccinations.

917
00:49:38,442 --> 00:49:42,942
Same thing with GMO products,
the pesticides in our food.

918
00:49:42,975 --> 00:49:47,142
If I can prevent the child from
being exposed to more toxins,

919
00:49:47,175 --> 00:49:49,609
then when I'm teaching
the child,

920
00:49:49,642 --> 00:49:51,342
at least the child
is getting better,

921
00:49:51,376 --> 00:49:54,008
and not continuously
getting worse.

922
00:49:54,042 --> 00:49:55,142
Without a doubt,
what's happened

923
00:49:55,175 --> 00:49:56,843
to Billy has changed his life.

924
00:50:00,875 --> 00:50:01,776
I did it!

925
00:50:01,809 --> 00:50:03,242
There you go,
you got a strike!

926
00:50:03,275 --> 00:50:06,476
What I have on my hands
now a 19-year-old man,

927
00:50:06,509 --> 00:50:09,509
he's 6 foot 2, he is volatile.

928
00:50:09,542 --> 00:50:12,776
On good days, Billy is
as brilliant as an angel.

929
00:50:12,809 --> 00:50:15,676
On bad days the slightest thing
can trigger him, and he's scary.

930
00:50:15,709 --> 00:50:18,975
I'm going to go downstairs
and get daddy right now.

931
00:50:19,008 --> 00:50:20,309
No, you need to
stay up here, okay?

932
00:50:20,342 --> 00:50:23,442
I'm going to kill
daddy right now!

933
00:50:23,476 --> 00:50:24,776
Bill, listen to me.

934
00:50:24,809 --> 00:50:27,908
I'm going to stay up here,
we're going to calm down okay?

935
00:50:29,209 --> 00:50:30,743
The reason they become
aggressive, and dangerous

936
00:50:30,776 --> 00:50:35,642
in some cases, is because they
have no ability to communicate.

937
00:50:35,676 --> 00:50:41,409
Because mummy asked Kent,
but Kent bring the sweet corn,

938
00:50:41,442 --> 00:50:44,242
then bring in the chickens here.

939
00:50:44,275 --> 00:50:46,075
Here, this is your fault, mummy.

940
00:50:46,109 --> 00:50:49,242
If you're not able to
express your needs, your wants,

941
00:50:49,275 --> 00:50:52,609
your desires, your happiness
and sadness and so on,

942
00:50:52,642 --> 00:50:53,809
you would become aggressive.

943
00:50:53,843 --> 00:50:57,843
That's often when we see
the worst part of autism.

944
00:51:04,175 --> 00:51:07,309
We have to occupy his room
and use his video player,

945
00:51:07,342 --> 00:51:10,776
and of course, that is a
massive intrusion in his space,

946
00:51:10,809 --> 00:51:13,875
and he got very upset.

947
00:51:13,908 --> 00:51:17,242
Where else in this
house can we play a video?

948
00:51:17,275 --> 00:51:22,209
Remember? Listen, Bill
reduce the stress level.

949
00:51:22,242 --> 00:51:23,642
No! Don't hurt Daddy.

950
00:51:23,676 --> 00:51:26,175
Out there, there's millions
of me's, there's millions

951
00:51:26,209 --> 00:51:28,942
of Polly Tommey's with
vaccine damaged children.

952
00:51:28,975 --> 00:51:32,309
I'm telling you this,
because I do not want you

953
00:51:32,342 --> 00:51:34,042
to live the life that I've led.

954
00:51:34,075 --> 00:51:35,908
I don't want you to
go through the pain.

955
00:51:35,942 --> 00:51:38,709
I do not want to see you
suffer, or your family suffer.

956
00:51:38,743 --> 00:51:39,809
That is why I'm telling you.

957
00:51:39,843 --> 00:51:41,709
I've no other reason
to tell you about it.

958
00:51:41,743 --> 00:51:44,709
It's not my concern, my
kid's already damaged.

959
00:51:52,975 --> 00:51:55,376
I am a senior research
scientist here at MIT,

960
00:51:55,409 --> 00:51:56,442
in the computer science

961
00:51:56,476 --> 00:51:58,542
and artificial intelligence
laboratory.

962
00:51:58,576 --> 00:52:01,709
I have a Bachelor's
degree in biology from MIT,

963
00:52:01,743 --> 00:52:05,175
and I have MSEE and PhD
degrees, also from MIT

964
00:52:05,209 --> 00:52:08,275
in electrical engineering
and computer science.

965
00:52:08,309 --> 00:52:10,843
I became interested in
autism a long time ago

966
00:52:10,875 --> 00:52:13,942
when my best friend at the time
had a son who was diagnosed

967
00:52:13,975 --> 00:52:17,409
with autism following
a DPT shot.

968
00:52:17,442 --> 00:52:20,275
He had a high fever after the
shot, seizures a week later,

969
00:52:20,309 --> 00:52:23,075
and was later diagnosed
with autism.

970
00:52:23,109 --> 00:52:25,776
We have to accept the
fact that autism is new.

971
00:52:25,809 --> 00:52:28,875
That before 1930,
the rate of autism

972
00:52:28,908 --> 00:52:30,942
in the world was
effectively zero.

973
00:52:30,975 --> 00:52:33,975
And then for a long
time it was 1 in 10,000.

974
00:52:34,008 --> 00:52:36,843
I got interested in
studying autism eight years ago

975
00:52:36,908 --> 00:52:39,709
when I saw the numbers go
up, and I was quite alarmed,

976
00:52:39,743 --> 00:52:42,743
because I could see that the
trend was exponential growth.

977
00:52:42,776 --> 00:52:45,242
And exponential growth
is extremely scary.

978
00:52:45,275 --> 00:52:48,942
Since really the
mid-to late 80s,

979
00:52:48,975 --> 00:52:51,175
we've gone from this
low-prevalence environment

980
00:52:51,209 --> 00:52:55,409
to a rate of increase where
the trend is still vertical.

981
00:52:55,442 --> 00:52:58,109
We have not seen a
flattening in trend.

982
00:52:58,142 --> 00:53:00,342
Every couple of years,
the CDC provides a number

983
00:53:00,376 --> 00:53:03,442
of what percentage of kids
are diagnosed with autism.

984
00:53:03,476 --> 00:53:06,242
And you've got the dots going
all the way back to 1975.

985
00:53:06,275 --> 00:53:09,809
You draw the line, it is a
perfect exponential curve.

986
00:53:09,843 --> 00:53:13,843
If we assume that things are
going to continue as they have,

987
00:53:13,875 --> 00:53:17,442
for the past 30 years, into
the future, we can predict

988
00:53:17,476 --> 00:53:22,109
that by 2032, 80% of
the boys born will end

989
00:53:22,142 --> 00:53:24,175
up on the autism spectrum.

990
00:53:24,209 --> 00:53:26,309
Half the children,
80% of the boys.

991
00:53:46,908 --> 00:53:48,875
If you think the
vaccine is only a problem

992
00:53:48,908 --> 00:53:51,809
for African American kids
like me, you're wrong.

993
00:53:51,843 --> 00:53:54,042
There's an even
bigger problem.

994
00:53:54,075 --> 00:53:58,743
One that puts all kids at risk,
and it's called isolated autism.

995
00:54:06,275 --> 00:54:08,676
When the CDC researchers
set out to do this study,

996
00:54:08,709 --> 00:54:10,709
they asked themselves
the question

997
00:54:10,743 --> 00:54:13,509
if early MMR vaccine
causes autism,

998
00:54:13,542 --> 00:54:18,542
in which children would we be
most likely to find this effect?

999
00:54:18,576 --> 00:54:23,342
Their answer is children with
no developmental concerns

1000
00:54:23,376 --> 00:54:24,576
for the first year of life.

1001
00:54:24,609 --> 00:54:26,942
Children who were
perfectly healthy

1002
00:54:26,975 --> 00:54:30,942
until they received
their MMR vaccine.

1003
00:54:30,975 --> 00:54:33,843
They called this
group isolated autism.

1004
00:54:33,875 --> 00:54:39,042
Now, this does not refer to
an isolated cause of autism,

1005
00:54:39,075 --> 00:54:41,242
or an isolated group
with autism.

1006
00:54:41,275 --> 00:54:43,542
They isolated autism out,

1007
00:54:43,576 --> 00:54:48,242
so children who had no
co-morbid conditions apart

1008
00:54:48,275 --> 00:54:49,975
from their autism.

1009
00:54:50,008 --> 00:54:52,442
No cerebral palsy.

1010
00:54:52,476 --> 00:54:54,042
No mental retardation.

1011
00:54:54,075 --> 00:54:55,776
No visual or hearing impairment.

1012
00:54:55,809 --> 00:55:00,376
No epilepsy, and
no birth defects.

1013
00:55:00,409 --> 00:55:04,142
This risk group includes
essentially every healthy child

1014
00:55:04,175 --> 00:55:05,609
in the world.

1015
00:55:06,875 --> 00:55:09,275
I'm a single father.

1016
00:55:09,309 --> 00:55:14,342
Raising a 15-year-old
severely autistic,

1017
00:55:14,376 --> 00:55:17,509
non-verbal teenaged daughter.

1018
00:55:17,542 --> 00:55:20,342
When she was 15 months old, she
received a round of vaccines

1019
00:55:20,376 --> 00:55:23,676
which included the MMR and DTAP.

1020
00:55:23,709 --> 00:55:25,175
She developed a high fever,

1021
00:55:25,209 --> 00:55:28,342
the fever broke,
she lost everything.

1022
00:55:28,376 --> 00:55:30,209
My daughter was six
weeks old when I took her

1023
00:55:30,242 --> 00:55:32,075
in for her vaccination.

1024
00:55:32,109 --> 00:55:35,409
Two hours later, she had a five
minute seizure, and two hours

1025
00:55:35,442 --> 00:55:37,843
after that, she had
another five minute seizure.

1026
00:55:37,875 --> 00:55:39,109
Mama's here.

1027
00:55:39,142 --> 00:55:40,743
Come on. Come on.

1028
00:55:40,776 --> 00:55:41,843
Come on, you're okay.

1029
00:55:41,875 --> 00:55:42,776
You're okay.

1030
00:55:42,809 --> 00:55:43,942
Come on baby.

1031
00:55:43,975 --> 00:55:45,743
Come on babe, you can do it.

1032
00:55:45,776 --> 00:55:46,309
Come on babe.

1033
00:55:46,342 --> 00:55:47,776
Come on out.

1034
00:55:47,809 --> 00:55:49,843
Come on. Come on baby.

1035
00:55:49,875 --> 00:55:51,476
Come on, keep breathing.

1036
00:55:51,509 --> 00:55:54,008
Come on, come on... The
vaccination gave her severe

1037
00:55:54,042 --> 00:55:56,642
brain damage, and she had
seizures every day for the rest

1038
00:55:56,676 --> 00:55:59,942
of her life until she died
in my arms at the age of 15.

1039
00:55:59,975 --> 00:56:02,908
There is no good reason to
choose not to get a vaccine.

1040
00:56:02,942 --> 00:56:06,576
He got his MMR,
and he got his DTP,

1041
00:56:06,609 --> 00:56:08,709
and within days,
he stopped talking.

1042
00:56:08,743 --> 00:56:10,875
Projectile vomiting,
convulsions.

1043
00:56:10,908 --> 00:56:12,309
He went blind
in his left eye.

1044
00:56:12,342 --> 00:56:18,075
Vaccines took our healthy,
happy baby and made him unwell.

1045
00:56:18,109 --> 00:56:19,843
She lost all acquired speech.

1046
00:56:19,875 --> 00:56:22,542
He lost his speech,
he lost his eye contact,

1047
00:56:22,576 --> 00:56:24,008
like the flick of a switch.

1048
00:56:24,042 --> 00:56:25,609
If vaccines were unsafe,

1049
00:56:25,642 --> 00:56:27,209
I think this would
be an interesting

1050
00:56:27,242 --> 00:56:28,409
and reasonable discussion.

1051
00:56:28,442 --> 00:56:31,209
Obviously some minority
get hurt by this stuff.

1052
00:56:31,242 --> 00:56:33,908
I don't understand why
this is controversial.

1053
00:56:33,942 --> 00:56:35,342
Vaccines are safe.

1054
00:56:35,376 --> 00:56:36,642
Get vaccinated.

1055
00:56:36,676 --> 00:56:38,042
It's like, you know what?

1056
00:56:38,075 --> 00:56:41,743
Shut the fuck up and let me take
every vaccine that Merck wants

1057
00:56:41,776 --> 00:56:42,975
to shove down my throat.

1058
00:56:43,008 --> 00:56:45,576
Autism is not a
side effect of vaccine,

1059
00:56:45,609 --> 00:56:46,676
or to say it another way,

1060
00:56:46,709 --> 00:56:49,042
because some people
don't hear this well,

1061
00:56:49,075 --> 00:56:51,642
vaccines do not cause autism.

1062
00:56:51,676 --> 00:56:52,776
Hear this well.

1063
00:56:52,809 --> 00:56:53,809
Hear this well.

1064
00:56:53,843 --> 00:56:54,709
Please hear this well.

1065
00:56:54,743 --> 00:56:55,743
Here this well.

1066
00:56:55,776 --> 00:56:58,676
Vaccines can and
do cause autism.

1067
00:56:58,709 --> 00:57:00,008
My granddaughter Lilly...

1068
00:57:00,042 --> 00:57:00,843
My daughter...

1069
00:57:00,875 --> 00:57:02,409
My son was fully vaccinated.

1070
00:57:02,442 --> 00:57:03,576
My son, Jackson.

1071
00:57:03,609 --> 00:57:05,809
I had a healthy,
typically developing boy.

1072
00:57:05,843 --> 00:57:07,843
Please, hear this well.

1073
00:57:07,875 --> 00:57:09,609
Vaccines cause autism.

1074
00:57:09,642 --> 00:57:13,442
One day, everyone will
know the truth about vaccines.

1075
00:57:13,476 --> 00:57:15,709
Hear this well.

1076
00:57:20,175 --> 00:57:23,075
I honestly think the most
interesting results are the

1077
00:57:23,109 --> 00:57:25,342
elevated ones, for the isolated,

1078
00:57:25,376 --> 00:57:28,542
ones that don't have other
co-morbid conditions.

1079
00:57:28,576 --> 00:57:31,442
The effect is where you
think it would happen.

1080
00:57:31,476 --> 00:57:36,175
In isolated autism, he saw
a very, very strong effect,

1081
00:57:36,209 --> 00:57:39,376
specific to those kids
that got the MMR on time.

1082
00:57:39,409 --> 00:57:42,642
When Bill Thompson
ran those numbers,

1083
00:57:42,676 --> 00:57:44,975
he saw an astronomical effect.

1084
00:57:45,008 --> 00:57:46,743
Some of the numbers
were actually...

1085
00:57:46,776 --> 00:57:52,376
the relative risks were as
high as 7 or 8 times higher

1086
00:57:52,409 --> 00:57:54,809
with these kids that
were diagnosed

1087
00:57:54,843 --> 00:57:58,975
with just isolated
autism, no other diagnosis,

1088
00:57:59,008 --> 00:58:00,942
versus those controls.

1089
00:58:00,975 --> 00:58:05,376
Isolated autism is confusing,
because it sounds small,

1090
00:58:05,409 --> 00:58:07,542
but it really is a big problem.

1091
00:58:07,576 --> 00:58:12,442
Because all healthy children no
matter what race, are at risk.

1092
00:58:12,476 --> 00:58:16,376
For example, my sister is 18
months old, and she is supposed

1093
00:58:16,409 --> 00:58:18,642
to get her MMR shot right now.

1094
00:58:18,676 --> 00:58:22,843
But if she does, she is seven
times more likely to get autism

1095
00:58:22,875 --> 00:58:27,576
than if my parents wait
until after 3 years old.

1096
00:58:27,609 --> 00:58:30,942
So I hope my parents
don't do it.

1097
00:58:30,975 --> 00:58:33,476
Here's what's really scary.

1098
00:58:33,509 --> 00:58:36,008
When we look at isolated
autism, we see that there is

1099
00:58:36,042 --> 00:58:40,342
up to a seven-fold increase
in the incidence of autism

1100
00:58:40,376 --> 00:58:43,008
between those that receive
the vaccine between 12

1101
00:58:43,042 --> 00:58:46,342
and 18 months, versus those
that got it after 3 years old.

1102
00:58:46,376 --> 00:58:48,175
But let's be perfectly clear.

1103
00:58:48,209 --> 00:58:52,908
Every child in the study had
received the MMR vaccine.

1104
00:58:52,942 --> 00:58:56,075
What would the numbers be
if you compared children

1105
00:58:56,109 --> 00:58:59,509
who got the vaccine between 12
and 18 months versus children

1106
00:58:59,542 --> 00:59:02,442
that never got the
vaccine at all.

1107
00:59:02,476 --> 00:59:06,743
This is often referred to
as the vax vs. unvax study.

1108
00:59:06,776 --> 00:59:10,075
CDC refuses to do this study.

1109
00:59:10,109 --> 00:59:12,843
Even though every drug
that we take has been

1110
00:59:12,875 --> 00:59:14,476
through this exact study.

1111
00:59:14,509 --> 00:59:17,275
There is a group who take the
drug, then they compare it

1112
00:59:17,309 --> 00:59:18,908
with a group who do
not take the drug,

1113
00:59:18,942 --> 00:59:21,743
and they see there are more
side effects and complications

1114
00:59:21,776 --> 00:59:23,908
with the group that
takes the drug.

1115
00:59:23,942 --> 00:59:27,875
So why does the CDC refuse to
do the vax vs. unvax study?

1116
00:59:27,908 --> 00:59:32,476
Probably because when we look
at the results of this study,

1117
00:59:32,509 --> 00:59:36,509
we realize that the risk would
be astronomical, and is likely

1118
00:59:36,542 --> 00:59:39,942
to be one of the major reasons
we're seeing this skyrocketing

1119
00:59:39,975 --> 00:59:43,576
increase of autism, worldwide.

1120
00:59:46,042 --> 00:59:49,776
Just like the African
American children,

1121
00:59:49,809 --> 00:59:54,242
they went into the room, and
they sliced and diced the data,

1122
00:59:54,275 --> 00:59:56,209
in an effort to get
rid of that effect.

1123
00:59:56,242 --> 00:59:59,676
This is Coleen Boyle's
meeting notes, how they planned

1124
00:59:59,709 --> 01:00:02,908
to present the data by these
age groups, that after the fact,

1125
01:00:02,942 --> 01:00:05,275
when the data she
writes reformats.

1126
01:00:05,309 --> 01:00:09,509
And then she puts
in new age groups.

1127
01:00:09,542 --> 01:00:14,409
Even this failed to
achieve the desired effect,

1128
01:00:14,442 --> 01:00:17,309
since in the end, they simply
omitted the relevant findings

1129
01:00:17,342 --> 01:00:19,576
from the paper altogether.

1130
01:00:19,609 --> 01:00:22,175
I was just looking at
that, I'm like, oh my god,

1131
01:00:22,209 --> 01:00:26,209
I cannot believe
we did what we did.

1132
01:00:26,242 --> 01:00:28,042
But we did.

1133
01:00:28,075 --> 01:00:28,743
Yeah.

1134
01:00:28,776 --> 01:00:30,275
So it's all there.

1135
01:00:30,309 --> 01:00:31,676
It's all there.

1136
01:00:31,709 --> 01:00:34,743
And you in the health field,
you who run our health agencies

1137
01:00:34,776 --> 01:00:39,342
in this country are sitting here
today, you have an obligation

1138
01:00:39,376 --> 01:00:42,309
to these kids that you just
saw there, to make sure

1139
01:00:42,342 --> 01:00:45,776
that these studies are
complete, thorough,

1140
01:00:45,809 --> 01:00:49,142
so that everybody knows
that we have all the facts,

1141
01:00:49,175 --> 01:00:50,776
and you don't have that.

1142
01:00:50,809 --> 01:00:52,709
One of the things
we did because this was

1143
01:00:52,743 --> 01:00:56,709
such an important topic was
to have them be sworn in.

1144
01:00:56,743 --> 01:00:58,409
So they were under oath.

1145
01:00:58,442 --> 01:01:02,008
And if they were doctoring
the results of a study,

1146
01:01:02,042 --> 01:01:05,743
and they did it deliberately,
they committed a felony.

1147
01:01:05,776 --> 01:01:08,175
It used to be 1 in 10,000.

1148
01:01:08,209 --> 01:01:13,542
And now it's 1 in more than
250 kids that are being damaged

1149
01:01:13,576 --> 01:01:16,209
in this country,
that are autistic.

1150
01:01:17,242 --> 01:01:19,075
Now those kids are
going to grow up.

1151
01:01:19,109 --> 01:01:20,908
They aren't going to die.

1152
01:01:20,942 --> 01:01:22,542
It's not like a lot of diseases

1153
01:01:22,576 --> 01:01:25,242
where they get infected,
and they drop dead.

1154
01:01:25,275 --> 01:01:27,809
They're going to live
to be 50, 60 years old.

1155
01:01:27,843 --> 01:01:30,908
Now, who do you think is
going to take care of them?

1156
01:01:31,975 --> 01:01:33,309
It's going to be us.

1157
01:01:33,342 --> 01:01:33,875
All of us.

1158
01:01:33,908 --> 01:01:34,843
The taxpayers.

1159
01:01:34,875 --> 01:01:36,275
And it's going to cost, I think

1160
01:01:36,309 --> 01:01:40,442
as you said Ms. Maloney,
trillions of dollars.

1161
01:01:40,476 --> 01:01:42,975
So we can't let the
pharmaceutical companies

1162
01:01:43,008 --> 01:01:46,242
and our government cover
this mess up today,

1163
01:01:46,275 --> 01:01:49,476
because it ain't
going to go away.

1164
01:01:49,509 --> 01:01:52,975
And it's going to cost the
taxpayers trillions more

1165
01:01:53,008 --> 01:01:54,776
if we wait around on it.

1166
01:01:54,809 --> 01:01:58,743
And or our FDA and HHS and the
health agencies to continue

1167
01:01:58,776 --> 01:02:01,908
to hide behind this façade
that there have been studies

1168
01:02:01,942 --> 01:02:06,109
that conclusively prove
otherwise, it's just wrong too.

1169
01:02:06,142 --> 01:02:09,075
So the CDC wasn't just doing
the study inside of a bubble.

1170
01:02:09,109 --> 01:02:11,142
In fact, it was the
exact opposite.

1171
01:02:11,175 --> 01:02:12,542
They were under fire.

1172
01:02:12,576 --> 01:02:14,476
You had Congressman
Dan Burton in front

1173
01:02:14,509 --> 01:02:17,609
of the Congress demanding
answers about mercury

1174
01:02:17,642 --> 01:02:20,242
and the MMR, and
vaccine studies,

1175
01:02:20,275 --> 01:02:21,942
and the connection to autism.

1176
01:02:21,975 --> 01:02:24,175
Dave Weldon, Congressman
from Florida,

1177
01:02:24,209 --> 01:02:25,676
is reaching out to
Julie Gerberding

1178
01:02:25,709 --> 01:02:26,908
with serious complaints

1179
01:02:26,942 --> 01:02:29,743
on how he thinks this entire
issue has been handled.

1180
01:02:29,776 --> 01:02:33,442
On top of that, the Department
of Justice is requesting files

1181
01:02:33,476 --> 01:02:36,743
and data from the CBC because
of a previous study called the

1182
01:02:36,776 --> 01:02:39,776
Verstraeton study, that
had so may anomalies,

1183
01:02:39,809 --> 01:02:42,209
it looked like scientific
fraud was taking place.

1184
01:02:42,242 --> 01:02:43,776
So they were suspicious.

1185
01:02:43,809 --> 01:02:47,709
So then you look at the emails
that Thompson provided to us,

1186
01:02:47,743 --> 01:02:50,843
and you see that he is reaching
out to his line manager,

1187
01:02:50,875 --> 01:02:55,409
Dr. Melinda Wharton, throwing up
red flags, saying "I first spoke

1188
01:02:55,442 --> 01:02:59,042
with you in September of 2002
regarding the sensitive results

1189
01:02:59,075 --> 01:03:03,109
we have been struggling with
in the MMR autism study."

1190
01:03:03,142 --> 01:03:06,609
How do you struggle
with scientific results?

1191
01:03:06,642 --> 01:03:08,409
I mean, facts are facts.

1192
01:03:08,442 --> 01:03:10,809
Data are data.

1193
01:03:10,843 --> 01:03:12,109
That doesn't make any sense.

1194
01:03:12,142 --> 01:03:14,843
So you've got Dan Burton
breathing down their necks.

1195
01:03:14,875 --> 01:03:17,642
The Department of Justice
is requesting files,

1196
01:03:17,676 --> 01:03:22,142
and William Thompson finds out
that Coleen Boyle has brought

1197
01:03:22,175 --> 01:03:26,743
in a lawyer to help her decide
what materials are too sensitive

1198
01:03:26,776 --> 01:03:29,209
to provide to the
Department of Justice.

1199
01:03:29,242 --> 01:03:32,843
This obviously freaks William
Thompson out, because later

1200
01:03:32,875 --> 01:03:35,242
in the email to Wharton, he says

1201
01:03:35,275 --> 01:03:38,376
"I will be hiring my
own personal attorney."

1202
01:03:38,409 --> 01:03:40,942
And it's extremely unfortunate
that we need to be concerned

1203
01:03:40,975 --> 01:03:44,642
that our own legal rights are
covered when participating

1204
01:03:44,676 --> 01:03:46,209
in a study such as this.

1205
01:03:46,242 --> 01:03:48,743
I mean, what's going on here?

1206
01:03:48,776 --> 01:03:52,776
We have government
scientists, lawyering up,

1207
01:03:52,809 --> 01:03:55,542
over a children's safety study.

1208
01:03:55,576 --> 01:03:59,275
Clearly this does not sit
well at all with Dr. Thompson.

1209
01:03:59,309 --> 01:04:00,942
Because at the end
of this email,

1210
01:04:00,975 --> 01:04:04,175
he makes what looks
to be a clear threat.

1211
01:04:04,209 --> 01:04:06,442
"My level of concern
has also caused me

1212
01:04:06,476 --> 01:04:09,776
to seriously consider
removing myself as an author

1213
01:04:09,809 --> 01:04:11,609
on the draft manuscript."

1214
01:04:11,642 --> 01:04:13,908
So then a few days later,
Thompson writes directly

1215
01:04:13,942 --> 01:04:16,743
to Dr. Walter Orenstein, head

1216
01:04:16,776 --> 01:04:19,242
of The National Immunization
Program,

1217
01:04:19,275 --> 01:04:23,175
saying "I am not interested in
taking all of the political heat

1218
01:04:23,209 --> 01:04:26,109
that will go along
with that study."

1219
01:04:26,142 --> 01:04:30,743
Thompson has gone all the way
to the top of his department.

1220
01:04:30,776 --> 01:04:35,609
I mean, we don't ever get a
response from Walter Orenstein,

1221
01:04:35,642 --> 01:04:40,008
but Thompson is very clear
on what happened next.

1222
01:04:43,376 --> 01:04:46,175
The higher ups wanted
to do certain things,

1223
01:04:46,209 --> 01:04:47,642
and I went along with it.

1224
01:04:47,676 --> 01:04:51,908
In terms of chain of command,
I was number four out of five.

1225
01:04:51,942 --> 01:04:54,908
Dr. Thompson talked about
destruction of documents,

1226
01:04:54,942 --> 01:04:58,609
and that in Fall of
2002, there was a meeting

1227
01:04:58,642 --> 01:04:59,942
with the trash can rolled in,

1228
01:04:59,975 --> 01:05:02,576
and they selected
documents to be destroyed.

1229
01:05:02,609 --> 01:05:05,642
I led all the analyses
with the DeStefano thing,

1230
01:05:05,676 --> 01:05:08,942
literally everyone else got
rid of all their documents,

1231
01:05:08,975 --> 01:05:11,109
so the only documents
that exist right now

1232
01:05:11,142 --> 01:05:12,542
from that study are mine.

1233
01:05:12,576 --> 01:05:15,275
These documents were
no doubt federal records.

1234
01:05:15,309 --> 01:05:16,908
They were very important
documents,

1235
01:05:16,942 --> 01:05:19,042
because they showed a
very strong statistically

1236
01:05:19,075 --> 01:05:20,275
significant effect.

1237
01:05:20,309 --> 01:05:22,209
He felt that quite
rightly it would be illegal

1238
01:05:22,242 --> 01:05:24,008
to destroy those documents.

1239
01:05:24,042 --> 01:05:27,275
And so in his office, he kept
not only the hard copies,

1240
01:05:27,309 --> 01:05:30,476
but the computerized
files for that study.

1241
01:05:30,509 --> 01:05:34,875
There was a dramatically
different result presented

1242
01:05:34,908 --> 01:05:39,576
before and after the time
frame that Thompson alleged

1243
01:05:39,609 --> 01:05:41,609
that these data were destroyed.

1244
01:05:41,642 --> 01:05:46,142
If I never had the
documents before October 2002,

1245
01:05:46,175 --> 01:05:49,075
there would be nothing
that would show

1246
01:05:49,109 --> 01:05:51,676
that they actually had
the results in hand,

1247
01:05:51,709 --> 01:05:54,209
and they decided to
destroy those results.

1248
01:05:54,242 --> 01:05:58,342
I filed a formal complaint to
the Office of Research Integrity

1249
01:05:58,376 --> 01:06:00,709
and the Department of
Health and Human Services.

1250
01:06:00,743 --> 01:06:03,975
I heard back not long after
the complaint was filed,

1251
01:06:04,008 --> 01:06:07,942
and the letter basically
stated that every co-author,

1252
01:06:07,975 --> 01:06:11,542
except for Dr. Thompson,
denied that any

1253
01:06:11,576 --> 01:06:13,376
such meeting was scheduled,

1254
01:06:13,409 --> 01:06:17,342
they denied that any material
was destroyed or thrown away.

1255
01:06:17,376 --> 01:06:19,743
They were calling
Dr. Thompson a liar.

1256
01:06:19,776 --> 01:06:21,809
It was their word against his.

1257
01:06:21,843 --> 01:06:25,075
Dr. Thompson predicted
that this would happen.

1258
01:06:25,109 --> 01:06:27,709
There are things I
haven't even shared with you

1259
01:06:27,743 --> 01:06:32,908
because I can't prove it, and
that's what I struggle with.

1260
01:06:32,942 --> 01:06:35,609
I don't want to share things
with you that I can't prove.

1261
01:06:35,642 --> 01:06:41,576
That there aren't hard records
of, because I am worried

1262
01:06:41,609 --> 01:06:44,175
that the other four
people will collude

1263
01:06:44,209 --> 01:06:46,209
and say no that's not true.

1264
01:06:46,242 --> 01:06:49,409
Dr. Thompson provided
meeting notes to me

1265
01:06:49,442 --> 01:06:52,809
for precisely the time where
the co-authors are claiming

1266
01:06:52,843 --> 01:06:55,476
that no meeting took place.

1267
01:06:55,509 --> 01:06:58,642
That's what I keep seeing
again and again and again.

1268
01:06:58,676 --> 01:07:04,509
Where these senior people just
do completely unethical vile

1269
01:07:04,542 --> 01:07:06,609
things, and no one
holds them accountable.

1270
01:07:06,642 --> 01:07:07,676
So look.

1271
01:07:07,709 --> 01:07:09,843
Once you have the data,
a scientific study

1272
01:07:09,875 --> 01:07:12,743
like this is a relatively
simple process.

1273
01:07:12,776 --> 01:07:15,209
You just run the data,
you get the results,

1274
01:07:15,242 --> 01:07:17,776
and then you publish
those results in a paper.

1275
01:07:17,809 --> 01:07:19,275
In their own analysis plan,

1276
01:07:19,309 --> 01:07:22,109
this study was only
supposed to take six months.

1277
01:07:22,142 --> 01:07:25,942
From May 2001 to December 2001.

1278
01:07:25,975 --> 01:07:28,442
So if they weren't
destroying data,

1279
01:07:28,476 --> 01:07:32,709
why did this study end
up taking four years?

1280
01:07:32,743 --> 01:07:34,242
The question everybody needs

1281
01:07:34,275 --> 01:07:37,809
to be asking the CDC is
what the heck happened

1282
01:07:37,843 --> 01:07:43,809
between October 2002
and February of 2004?

1283
01:07:43,843 --> 01:07:46,509
The reason you don't see
anything else circulating

1284
01:07:46,542 --> 01:07:48,709
on this study, it
was five of us,

1285
01:07:48,743 --> 01:07:51,609
behind closed doors,
for two years.

1286
01:07:51,642 --> 01:07:52,875
Wow.

1287
01:07:54,109 --> 01:07:57,309
So after two years of secret
meetings behind closed doors,

1288
01:07:57,342 --> 01:08:01,142
DeStefano emerges with the
final draft of the MMR study,

1289
01:08:01,175 --> 01:08:04,676
and they're going to present it
to the Institute of Medicine.

1290
01:08:04,709 --> 01:08:10,609
People on the IOM move from
industry, government, academia,

1291
01:08:10,642 --> 01:08:13,942
government, industry,
and they bounce around.

1292
01:08:13,975 --> 01:08:16,309
It's all the same people,

1293
01:08:16,342 --> 01:08:19,776
and there wasn't a really
good policeman in all of this,

1294
01:08:19,809 --> 01:08:23,075
to really make sure that the
vaccine safety studies are done

1295
01:08:23,109 --> 01:08:26,075
properly and that
they're done objectively.

1296
01:08:26,109 --> 01:08:27,376
It just didn't seem to me

1297
01:08:27,409 --> 01:08:31,409
like we were running a
system that was credible.

1298
01:08:31,442 --> 01:08:34,242
I had written to Julie
Gerberding, and I asked her

1299
01:08:34,275 --> 01:08:38,008
to postpone the February 9th
Institute of Medicine meeting.

1300
01:08:38,042 --> 01:08:40,809
This report, the Institute
of Medicine Report I wanted

1301
01:08:40,843 --> 01:08:46,309
to postpone because my concern
that this was not an exercise

1302
01:08:46,342 --> 01:08:48,242
in discovering the truth,

1303
01:08:48,275 --> 01:08:51,075
but was instead a meeting
being driven by a desire

1304
01:08:51,109 --> 01:08:53,376
to short-circuit
important research

1305
01:08:53,409 --> 01:08:56,175
and draw premature conclusions.

1306
01:08:56,209 --> 01:08:58,642
The problem is, William
Thompson being the lead

1307
01:08:58,676 --> 01:09:03,109
scientist, he is going to have
to present their findings.

1308
01:09:03,142 --> 01:09:04,875
And he's not happy about it.

1309
01:09:04,908 --> 01:09:08,376
In fact, he's so upset, that
he goes above the lead author,

1310
01:09:08,409 --> 01:09:11,376
DeStefano, above
Walter Orenstein,

1311
01:09:11,409 --> 01:09:15,209
all the way to the Head of
the CDC, Dr. Julie Gerberding.

1312
01:09:15,242 --> 01:09:17,509
And in an email he says,

1313
01:09:29,743 --> 01:09:32,942
basically saying "I'm not
going to continue this lie.

1314
01:09:32,975 --> 01:09:36,776
If you put me up there, I'm
going to tell the truth."

1315
01:09:36,809 --> 01:09:40,975
Thompson was originally
scheduled to provide a briefing,

1316
01:09:41,008 --> 01:09:44,242
because he basically
told Director Gerberding

1317
01:09:44,275 --> 01:09:48,275
that he would have to say that
there is a causal association.

1318
01:09:48,309 --> 01:09:51,942
He was switched at the last
minute with Frank DeStefano,

1319
01:09:51,975 --> 01:09:55,042
who was able to report
to the IOM falsely

1320
01:09:55,075 --> 01:09:56,709
that we have found
no association

1321
01:09:56,743 --> 01:09:59,476
between MMR and autism.

1322
01:09:59,509 --> 01:10:01,975
The IOM was the
point of no return.

1323
01:10:02,008 --> 01:10:04,476
And so deprived of the truth,

1324
01:10:04,509 --> 01:10:07,809
the IOM declared
MMR vaccine safe.

1325
01:10:07,843 --> 01:10:12,376
It was a rush to judgment,
to shut the door, permanently

1326
01:10:12,409 --> 01:10:16,509
and completely, on
the MMR autism link.

1327
01:10:16,542 --> 01:10:19,875
It is absolutely appalling
that much of what I said turned

1328
01:10:19,908 --> 01:10:22,242
out exactly to be true.

1329
01:10:22,275 --> 01:10:25,709
They were trying to
short-circuit the research.

1330
01:10:25,743 --> 01:10:28,676
It's the lowest, you know,
the lowest point in my career,

1331
01:10:28,709 --> 01:10:30,476
that I went along
with that paper.

1332
01:10:30,509 --> 01:10:33,975
After their brilliant work
on the MMR study, DeStefano

1333
01:10:34,008 --> 01:10:36,743
and his team received an
award from the Department

1334
01:10:36,776 --> 01:10:38,676
of Health and Human Services.

1335
01:10:38,709 --> 01:10:40,709
And then several years later,

1336
01:10:40,743 --> 01:10:43,942
Dr. Julie Gerberding
received an award of her own.

1337
01:10:43,975 --> 01:10:49,342
A high paid job as head of
the vaccine division at Merck.

1338
01:10:49,376 --> 01:10:53,843
Clearly, Merck appreciated the
work she had done investigating

1339
01:10:53,875 --> 01:10:55,576
their vaccine.

1340
01:10:59,576 --> 01:11:06,075
Just to let you know, I wrote
a paper on my results on MMR.

1341
01:11:06,109 --> 01:11:07,342
Yes?

1342
01:11:07,376 --> 01:11:11,042
And it will include
something that I got from you.

1343
01:11:11,075 --> 01:11:13,975
Brian was about to
publish a paper using data

1344
01:11:14,008 --> 01:11:16,576
that could only have come
from an inside source

1345
01:11:16,609 --> 01:11:18,609
in the CDC, a whistle-blower.

1346
01:11:18,642 --> 01:11:20,008
And from that point forward,

1347
01:11:20,042 --> 01:11:22,209
William Thompson
was a marked man.

1348
01:11:22,242 --> 01:11:26,809
Andy approached
me and said it's time

1349
01:11:26,843 --> 01:11:29,476
to publicize the
CDC whistle-blower.

1350
01:11:29,509 --> 01:11:30,776
Ironically 12 years later,

1351
01:11:30,809 --> 01:11:35,008
while Thompson is bearing
his soul to Brian Hooker,

1352
01:11:35,042 --> 01:11:38,776
in front of Congress Coleen
Boyle is just peddling the same

1353
01:11:38,809 --> 01:11:40,843
old CDC fraud.

1354
01:11:40,875 --> 01:11:42,743
But this time, it's
to a new player.

1355
01:11:42,776 --> 01:11:45,843
And that is Congressman
Bill Posey from Florida.

1356
01:11:45,875 --> 01:11:48,109
I wonder if the
CDC has conducted

1357
01:11:48,142 --> 01:11:51,843
or facilitated a study
comparing vaccinated children

1358
01:11:51,875 --> 01:11:53,309
with unvaccinated children yet?

1359
01:11:53,342 --> 01:11:54,609
Have you done that?

1360
01:11:54,642 --> 01:11:57,008
We have actually done a
number of studies looking

1361
01:11:57,042 --> 01:12:01,809
at the relationship between
Thiomerisol vaccines and autism,

1362
01:12:01,843 --> 01:12:03,576
and other developmental
disabilities.

1363
01:12:03,609 --> 01:12:06,776
The lies from the
CDC were still the same.

1364
01:12:06,809 --> 01:12:10,175
The difference now is
we had William Thompson.

1365
01:12:10,209 --> 01:12:13,908
Vaccines and their components
did not increase the risk

1366
01:12:13,942 --> 01:12:15,309
for autism.

1367
01:12:15,342 --> 01:12:18,908
But my time is very limited
here, so clearly, definitely,

1368
01:12:18,942 --> 01:12:24,809
unequivocally, you have studied
vaccinated versus unvaccinated?

1369
01:12:24,843 --> 01:12:27,175
We have not studied
vaccinated

1370
01:12:27,209 --> 01:12:29,275
versus unvaccinated, as you...

1371
01:12:29,309 --> 01:12:30,476
Never mind, that
is just not there,

1372
01:12:30,509 --> 01:12:31,875
that is the meaning
of my question.

1373
01:12:31,908 --> 01:12:33,476
You've wasted two
minutes of my time.

1374
01:12:33,509 --> 01:12:36,309
Brian had also
submitted a related paper

1375
01:12:36,342 --> 01:12:38,309
to a journal called
Nature Neuroscience.

1376
01:12:38,342 --> 01:12:40,942
And in that paper, he
had specifically referred

1377
01:12:40,975 --> 01:12:43,042
to an unnamed source at the CDC.

1378
01:12:43,075 --> 01:12:46,476
And my worst fears were
realized, when a journalist

1379
01:12:46,509 --> 01:12:49,309
from Nature Neuroscience
contacted the CDC,

1380
01:12:49,342 --> 01:12:51,975
contacted Walter
Orenstein, the message went

1381
01:12:52,008 --> 01:12:56,109
on to Frank DeStefano, who sent
it out to the co-authors saying,

1382
01:12:56,142 --> 01:12:57,242
"Keep your heads down.

1383
01:12:57,275 --> 01:13:00,008
This may be coming your way."

1384
01:13:00,042 --> 01:13:02,908
The fear was all of a
sudden we'd be dredging a river

1385
01:13:02,942 --> 01:13:04,275
for Bill Thompson.

1386
01:13:04,309 --> 01:13:07,242
So I said to him, Brian,
we've got to do three things.

1387
01:13:07,275 --> 01:13:10,542
We have got to get Thompson
a whistle-blower lawyer.

1388
01:13:10,576 --> 01:13:14,142
We have got to make sure that
his documents are with Posey,

1389
01:13:14,175 --> 01:13:16,975
and we've got to
reveal his name.

1390
01:13:17,008 --> 01:13:22,008
Whistle-blowers are in danger
only as long as the only people

1391
01:13:22,042 --> 01:13:25,509
who know their identity
are their enemies.

1392
01:13:28,509 --> 01:13:31,142
Do vaccines cause autism?

1393
01:13:31,175 --> 01:13:32,843
In the last 30 years,

1394
01:13:32,875 --> 01:13:36,109
the childhood vaccine
schedule has tripled,

1395
01:13:36,142 --> 01:13:39,275
while the U.S. autism
rate has skyrocketed

1396
01:13:39,309 --> 01:13:43,142
from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 50.

1397
01:13:43,175 --> 01:13:47,809
Dozens of published research
papers show that yes, vaccines

1398
01:13:47,843 --> 01:13:50,175
and autism are linked.

1399
01:13:50,209 --> 01:13:51,609
Yet, the debate rages on,

1400
01:13:51,642 --> 01:13:55,642
in part because of a 1986
National Childhood Vaccine

1401
01:13:55,676 --> 01:13:58,809
Injury Act, passed by
Congress, as the result

1402
01:13:58,843 --> 01:14:00,908
of pharmaceutical lobbying.

1403
01:14:00,942 --> 01:14:03,875
It shields drug companies
from liability for injuries

1404
01:14:03,908 --> 01:14:07,809
and deaths caused by the
vaccines they manufacture.

1405
01:14:07,843 --> 01:14:10,843
Vaccines that the federal
government admits are

1406
01:14:10,875 --> 01:14:13,209
unavoidably unsafe.

1407
01:14:13,242 --> 01:14:16,042
Instead of suing the
pharmaceutical company directly,

1408
01:14:16,075 --> 01:14:18,908
parents are forced to petition
the Department of Health

1409
01:14:18,942 --> 01:14:20,008
and Human Services,

1410
01:14:20,042 --> 01:14:23,209
and if federal officials
oppose compensation,

1411
01:14:23,242 --> 01:14:26,242
the case is argued
before a special master

1412
01:14:26,275 --> 01:14:28,242
in the U.S. Claims Court.

1413
01:14:28,275 --> 01:14:31,342
Many refer to this
as vaccine court.

1414
01:14:31,376 --> 01:14:33,542
Here are some shocking facts

1415
01:14:33,576 --> 01:14:36,376
about the so-called
vaccine court.

1416
01:14:36,409 --> 01:14:39,476
Pharmaceutical companies
do not have to participate

1417
01:14:39,509 --> 01:14:41,576
in the proceedings at all.

1418
01:14:41,609 --> 01:14:45,476
Taxpayers pay for all damages.

1419
01:14:45,509 --> 01:14:48,975
The U.S. Department of Justice
acts as a government's lawyer,

1420
01:14:49,008 --> 01:14:52,609
with taxpayers footing the
bill for their defense.

1421
01:14:56,509 --> 01:14:59,409
Beginning in 2002, there
were already thousands

1422
01:14:59,442 --> 01:15:03,342
of cases accumulating
in vaccine court,

1423
01:15:03,376 --> 01:15:06,309
and the average compensation
for an autistic child is

1424
01:15:06,342 --> 01:15:10,509
in the range of $5 million
dollars, so just do the math.

1425
01:15:10,542 --> 01:15:13,109
The government was facing
several hundred billion,

1426
01:15:13,142 --> 01:15:15,609
possibly a trillion
dollars in liability

1427
01:15:15,642 --> 01:15:17,743
as the autism epidemic grew.

1428
01:15:17,776 --> 01:15:22,809
They had to develop a fraudulent
study that would exonerate MMR

1429
01:15:22,843 --> 01:15:26,309
to deliberately defeat the
cases in vaccine court,

1430
01:15:26,342 --> 01:15:27,875
to avoid paying the
trillion dollars.

1431
01:15:27,908 --> 01:15:32,542
So the thousands of autism
petitioners were denied their

1432
01:15:32,576 --> 01:15:35,975
fair day in court by a corrupt

1433
01:15:36,008 --> 01:15:38,676
and deliberate obstruction
of justice.

1434
01:15:38,709 --> 01:15:44,275
It's one of the most unethical
medical decisions of all time,

1435
01:15:44,309 --> 01:15:45,875
because it was made
with knowledge

1436
01:15:45,908 --> 01:15:50,008
to sacrifice these
children as a direct affront

1437
01:15:50,042 --> 01:15:53,509
to the Congressional Mandate
that they all be compensated.

1438
01:16:06,509 --> 01:16:08,342
In the fall of last
year, I got a call

1439
01:16:08,376 --> 01:16:11,743
from an inside source, who
told me that in two weeks,

1440
01:16:11,776 --> 01:16:14,809
there's going to be a whistle
blower from the CDC who is going

1441
01:16:14,843 --> 01:16:18,075
to come out and say that
the CDC had committed fraud

1442
01:16:18,109 --> 01:16:20,975
on the MMR study
and that they knew

1443
01:16:21,008 --> 01:16:24,476
that vaccines were
actually causing autism.

1444
01:16:24,509 --> 01:16:27,075
I mean, that's a huge story.

1445
01:16:27,109 --> 01:16:29,709
Unfortunately it was a story
I would not be able to tell

1446
01:16:29,743 --> 01:16:32,509
on a medical talk show, because
a lot of our funding was coming

1447
01:16:32,542 --> 01:16:33,843
from the pharmaceutical
industry,

1448
01:16:33,875 --> 01:16:36,309
and we were also very
good friends with the CDC,

1449
01:16:36,342 --> 01:16:39,676
who had appeared on
our show many times.

1450
01:16:39,709 --> 01:16:44,242
But I knew that once this
story broke, two weeks later,

1451
01:16:44,275 --> 01:16:46,609
that the mainstream news
media would pick it up.

1452
01:16:46,642 --> 01:16:47,776
Fox would be on it.

1453
01:16:47,809 --> 01:16:49,209
CNN would be on it.

1454
01:16:49,242 --> 01:16:52,609
MSNBC, and we're talking about
the biggest medical story

1455
01:16:52,642 --> 01:16:54,743
in the last decade
or two at least.

1456
01:16:54,776 --> 01:16:57,008
So that two weeks came.

1457
01:16:57,042 --> 01:16:59,843
I saw the video that was
posted by Andrew Wakefield

1458
01:16:59,875 --> 01:17:01,809
and Brian Hooker,
and I heard the words

1459
01:17:01,843 --> 01:17:04,542
of William Thompson
and his confession.

1460
01:17:04,576 --> 01:17:09,476
Oh my god, I cannot
believe we did what we did.

1461
01:17:09,509 --> 01:17:11,542
But we did.

1462
01:17:11,576 --> 01:17:12,376
It's all there.

1463
01:17:12,409 --> 01:17:13,743
It's all there.

1464
01:17:13,776 --> 01:17:18,509
And I watched the Blogosphere
go crazy, tweets, Facebook,

1465
01:17:18,542 --> 01:17:21,442
social media, everybody
talking about it.

1466
01:17:21,476 --> 01:17:26,476
But not one mainstream media
source went anywhere near

1467
01:17:26,509 --> 01:17:27,476
the story.

1468
01:17:27,509 --> 01:17:29,542
In fact, on CNN someone
put the story

1469
01:17:29,576 --> 01:17:33,576
up on iReport, and
CNN took it down.

1470
01:17:33,609 --> 01:17:37,908
And at that moment, I
realized wait a minute.

1471
01:17:37,942 --> 01:17:40,743
Not only is my medical
talk show being produced

1472
01:17:40,776 --> 01:17:45,809
by the pharmaceutical
industry, all of television is.

1473
01:17:45,843 --> 01:17:47,875
We were never going
to get this story.

1474
01:17:47,908 --> 01:17:53,175
But we certainly
did get a story.

1475
01:17:53,209 --> 01:17:55,376
A highly contagious
measles outbreak.

1476
01:17:55,409 --> 01:17:56,342
Major outbreak.

1477
01:17:56,376 --> 01:17:57,342
Measles outbreaks.

1478
01:17:57,376 --> 01:17:59,442
Measles on the
march in America.

1479
01:17:59,476 --> 01:18:01,676
This outbreak is showing
no signs of letting up.

1480
01:18:01,709 --> 01:18:03,975
But in 2014, the
number tripled,

1481
01:18:04,008 --> 01:18:08,609
to 644 measles cases
reported in 27 states.

1482
01:18:08,642 --> 01:18:13,809
It's really amazing to
consider the number of cases

1483
01:18:13,843 --> 01:18:16,476
of autism every year,
and to contrast

1484
01:18:16,509 --> 01:18:21,209
that to let's say the number of
children who acquired measles

1485
01:18:21,242 --> 01:18:22,709
by going to Disneyland.

1486
01:18:22,743 --> 01:18:27,476
It's a tiny number of
children who acquired measles,

1487
01:18:27,509 --> 01:18:31,576
and it's a vast number of
children who are being diagnosed

1488
01:18:31,609 --> 01:18:33,676
with autism every day.

1489
01:18:35,342 --> 01:18:38,175
We don't know
what causes autism.

1490
01:18:38,209 --> 01:18:39,275
I mean, that's fair to say.

1491
01:18:39,309 --> 01:18:40,476
We are not sure

1492
01:18:40,509 --> 01:18:42,409
in the scientific
community what causes autism,

1493
01:18:42,442 --> 01:18:45,109
but we know that
vaccines do not.

1494
01:18:45,142 --> 01:18:47,743
Now, I'm not saying that
Sanjay Gupta is a bad guy.

1495
01:18:47,776 --> 01:18:51,476
In fact, I think that he
tries to do a lot of good.

1496
01:18:51,509 --> 01:18:53,875
Just like many doctors do.

1497
01:18:53,908 --> 01:18:56,776
But if they're being lied
to by the scientific body

1498
01:18:56,809 --> 01:18:59,476
that provides them
with their information,

1499
01:18:59,509 --> 01:19:01,309
what happens to all of us?

1500
01:19:01,342 --> 01:19:07,042
What happens if a good doctor
sees the same data that I saw?

1501
01:19:07,075 --> 01:19:09,175
So you're a scientist,
basically.

1502
01:19:09,209 --> 01:19:10,975
So you're studying this.

1503
01:19:11,008 --> 01:19:13,875
And you feel 100% confident,
you even said you have kids,

1504
01:19:13,908 --> 01:19:15,409
so you're a family person.

1505
01:19:15,442 --> 01:19:16,175
Yes.

1506
01:19:16,209 --> 01:19:17,109
You would feel very...

1507
01:19:17,142 --> 01:19:18,275
How long have
you been a doctor,

1508
01:19:18,309 --> 01:19:20,309
and sort of what is
your area of specialty?

1509
01:19:20,342 --> 01:19:23,109
Sure, I've been a
family medical physician

1510
01:19:23,142 --> 01:19:25,275
for over 10 years now,
in treating families,

1511
01:19:25,309 --> 01:19:26,875
everyone from newborns
all the way

1512
01:19:26,908 --> 01:19:30,042
up to my oldest patient is 96.

1513
01:19:30,075 --> 01:19:33,075
So do you administer
vaccines as part of that?

1514
01:19:33,109 --> 01:19:34,975
Yes I do administer vaccines.

1515
01:19:35,008 --> 01:19:37,975
In our clinic, we follow
the CDC recommendations,

1516
01:19:38,008 --> 01:19:41,509
and we give that
information to our patients,

1517
01:19:41,542 --> 01:19:43,642
and we give them a schedule of
when their children are going

1518
01:19:43,676 --> 01:19:46,376
to need to be vaccinated,
and so on and so forth.

1519
01:19:46,409 --> 01:19:48,309
There's something
I want to show you.

1520
01:19:48,342 --> 01:19:51,609
This is the formal complaint
about what they've been given

1521
01:19:51,642 --> 01:19:54,275
by William Thompson,
as well the CDC.

1522
01:19:54,309 --> 01:19:56,642
Okay? There's all sorts
of reference materials

1523
01:19:56,676 --> 01:19:57,776
in here and things like that.

1524
01:19:57,809 --> 01:20:01,875
I'm just going to give
you time to look at it,

1525
01:20:01,908 --> 01:20:04,142
study it as long
as you want, okay?

1526
01:20:04,175 --> 01:20:06,509
When you feel like you have
a grasp of it, you are going

1527
01:20:06,542 --> 01:20:07,776
to know, it's going
to take some time,

1528
01:20:07,809 --> 01:20:08,908
appreciate you taking the time.

1529
01:20:08,942 --> 01:20:09,476
All right.

1530
01:20:09,509 --> 01:20:09,908
All right?

1531
01:20:09,942 --> 01:20:11,042
Okay.

1532
01:20:13,109 --> 01:20:17,242
So I have sent you what
William Thompson has said is the

1533
01:20:17,275 --> 01:20:18,942
fraud at the CDC.

1534
01:20:18,975 --> 01:20:21,442
All of that data
that was missing.

1535
01:20:21,476 --> 01:20:25,309
Did you get a chance
to really look it over?

1536
01:20:25,342 --> 01:20:27,743
It's really unbelievable.

1537
01:20:27,776 --> 01:20:33,309
How blatantly the data
was switched around.

1538
01:20:33,342 --> 01:20:36,309
It made me question whether
or not this organization

1539
01:20:36,342 --> 01:20:39,709
that has been mandating
how I practice medicine

1540
01:20:39,743 --> 01:20:43,075
for the past 10 years, if
they're lying about this,

1541
01:20:43,109 --> 01:20:46,142
they're leaving data out
about this particular study...

1542
01:20:46,175 --> 01:20:50,476
what else am I being
lied to about?

1543
01:20:51,875 --> 01:20:53,642
I'm still trying
to digest it.

1544
01:20:53,676 --> 01:20:57,908
Because this study,
which was used to kind

1545
01:20:57,942 --> 01:21:02,942
of give the definitive answer
to us pediatricians, that oh,

1546
01:21:02,975 --> 01:21:06,342
the MMR is not related
to autism,

1547
01:21:06,376 --> 01:21:07,042
I kind of feel

1548
01:21:07,075 --> 01:21:08,743
like I've been lied to.

1549
01:21:08,776 --> 01:21:11,376
When they set out to do the
study, they wanted to look

1550
01:21:11,409 --> 01:21:15,008
at the data, and interpret the
data, but then there is a piece

1551
01:21:15,042 --> 01:21:18,242
of data that they
chose to ignore.

1552
01:21:18,275 --> 01:21:22,576
The data they excluded was
really, really significant.

1553
01:21:22,609 --> 01:21:23,209
Think about it.

1554
01:21:23,242 --> 01:21:24,609
It is a big deal.

1555
01:21:24,642 --> 01:21:29,376
It is a big deal for a physician
to have to deal with the fact

1556
01:21:29,409 --> 01:21:32,376
that for the past 10, 20 years,

1557
01:21:32,409 --> 01:21:36,476
we've been potentially
destroying the brains

1558
01:21:36,509 --> 01:21:37,576
of children.

1559
01:21:37,609 --> 01:21:38,975
Everything I've been
telling my patients

1560
01:21:39,008 --> 01:21:45,975
for the last 10 years has been
based on a lie and a cover up.

1561
01:21:46,008 --> 01:21:47,209
Parents making decisions

1562
01:21:47,242 --> 01:21:49,175
about their children's
health deserve

1563
01:21:49,209 --> 01:21:51,875
to have the best
information available to them.

1564
01:21:51,908 --> 01:21:54,242
They should be able to
count on federal agencies

1565
01:21:54,275 --> 01:21:56,843
to tell them the truth.

1566
01:21:56,875 --> 01:21:58,875
Once Brian and I had
outed Bill Thompson,

1567
01:21:58,908 --> 01:22:01,509
he got himself a whistle-blower
lawyer, he provided all

1568
01:22:01,542 --> 01:22:03,908
of his documents on the
fraudulent CDC study

1569
01:22:03,942 --> 01:22:07,042
to Congressman Posey, who
then went before the Congress.

1570
01:22:07,075 --> 01:22:09,875
Considering the nature of
the whistle blower's documents,

1571
01:22:09,908 --> 01:22:13,309
as well as the involvement
of the CDC, a hearing

1572
01:22:13,342 --> 01:22:16,743
and a thorough investigation
is warranted.

1573
01:22:16,776 --> 01:22:21,975
So I ask Mr. Speaker, I
beg, I implore my colleagues

1574
01:22:22,008 --> 01:22:24,542
on the Appropriations
Committees to please,

1575
01:22:24,576 --> 01:22:25,908
please take such action.

1576
01:22:25,942 --> 01:22:28,509
Thank you Mr. Speaker,
I yield back.

1577
01:22:28,542 --> 01:22:29,843
It's now been 7 months

1578
01:22:29,875 --> 01:22:32,743
since Congressman Bill
Posey urged the Congress

1579
01:22:32,776 --> 01:22:36,809
to subpoena Bill Thompson,
and they have done nothing.

1580
01:22:36,843 --> 01:22:40,275
Bill Thompson wants to
be subpoenaed by Congress.

1581
01:22:40,309 --> 01:22:43,709
As a CDC employee from
the federal government,

1582
01:22:43,743 --> 01:22:46,609
he cannot speak voluntarily

1583
01:22:46,642 --> 01:22:48,409
because of the threat
of jail time.

1584
01:22:48,442 --> 01:22:52,809
Absolutely, William Thompson
needs to go before Congress.

1585
01:22:52,843 --> 01:22:54,975
He needs to go before
the whole nation.

1586
01:22:55,008 --> 01:22:58,342
Everybody needs to see
what he has to say.

1587
01:22:58,376 --> 01:23:00,509
He needs to be
deposed in front

1588
01:23:00,542 --> 01:23:01,809
of a committee in Congress.

1589
01:23:01,843 --> 01:23:05,709
And Julie Gerberding has to
be brought in and deposed.

1590
01:23:05,743 --> 01:23:09,142
Because this is a very, very,
very disturbing revelation.

1591
01:23:09,175 --> 01:23:12,042
For this researcher to come
forward and be saying now

1592
01:23:12,075 --> 01:23:16,109
that they were indeed
deliberately concealing critical

1593
01:23:16,142 --> 01:23:19,509
information about
an MMR autism link...

1594
01:23:19,542 --> 01:23:22,409
horrible, horrible development.

1595
01:23:22,442 --> 01:23:25,109
Deviation from
an analysis plan.

1596
01:23:25,142 --> 01:23:27,676
Omission of crucial data.

1597
01:23:27,709 --> 01:23:29,809
Destruction of documents.

1598
01:23:29,843 --> 01:23:32,309
Obstruction of justice.

1599
01:23:32,342 --> 01:23:34,275
Misleading the Congress.

1600
01:23:34,309 --> 01:23:37,743
Grievous harm to
innocent children.

1601
01:23:37,776 --> 01:23:40,542
This has to be investigated.

1602
01:23:40,576 --> 01:23:41,843
You and I are in agreement.

1603
01:23:41,875 --> 01:23:44,342
Vaccine safety should
not be in the CDC.

1604
01:23:44,376 --> 01:23:45,175
Absolutely.

1605
01:23:45,209 --> 01:23:46,843
You would end up with an agency

1606
01:23:46,875 --> 01:23:49,776
like the National
Transportation Safety Board.

1607
01:23:49,809 --> 01:23:52,709
The next thing they need
to do is somebody needs

1608
01:23:52,743 --> 01:23:55,342
to reintroduce the
Weldon-Maloney Bill.

1609
01:23:55,376 --> 01:23:57,942
It needs to be very, very
quickly enacted, and you need

1610
01:23:57,975 --> 01:24:01,476
to take all of the vaccine
safety responsibilities

1611
01:24:01,509 --> 01:24:02,676
out of the CDC.

1612
01:24:02,709 --> 01:24:06,908
These children have
been maimed by the actions

1613
01:24:06,942 --> 01:24:09,309
of Coleen Boyle,
Frank DeStefano,

1614
01:24:09,342 --> 01:24:12,509
Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop,
and Tanya Bhasin.

1615
01:24:12,542 --> 01:24:16,409
My son has been debilitated
for 17 years.

1616
01:24:16,442 --> 01:24:20,075
I think jail time is too
good for these individuals

1617
01:24:20,109 --> 01:24:22,275
who have perpetrated such fraud.

1618
01:24:22,309 --> 01:24:27,008
The notion of vaccinating
children, protecting children

1619
01:24:27,042 --> 01:24:31,109
against serious infectious
disease with vaccines

1620
01:24:31,142 --> 01:24:36,008
that are safe and
effective is laudable.

1621
01:24:36,042 --> 01:24:39,075
You hear about measles
outbreaks in Disneyland,

1622
01:24:39,109 --> 01:24:41,409
and then they try
and sell you MMR.

1623
01:24:41,442 --> 01:24:45,175
We didn't see autism being
reported as a consequence

1624
01:24:45,209 --> 01:24:48,309
of the single vaccine,
only of the triple vaccine.

1625
01:24:48,342 --> 01:24:50,576
So my feeling is that we need

1626
01:24:50,609 --> 01:24:54,042
to review vaccination
policy across the board.

1627
01:24:54,075 --> 01:24:55,609
But in the first instance,

1628
01:24:55,642 --> 01:24:59,809
I do believe we can make
the problem far less

1629
01:24:59,843 --> 01:25:02,442
if we separate those vaccines

1630
01:25:02,476 --> 01:25:06,843
out into their single
measles, mumps and rubella.

1631
01:25:06,875 --> 01:25:08,743
I just cannot
imagine what it will be

1632
01:25:08,776 --> 01:25:10,875
like if we really
do face a future

1633
01:25:10,908 --> 01:25:14,309
in which half the children born
end up on the autism spectrum.

1634
01:25:14,342 --> 01:25:16,642
I mean, it will be so
disruptive of the school system.

1635
01:25:16,676 --> 01:25:18,843
There will be so little
money to be able to spend

1636
01:25:18,875 --> 01:25:21,476
on the normal children to
help them to bring them

1637
01:25:21,509 --> 01:25:22,975
up and to educate them.

1638
01:25:23,008 --> 01:25:25,875
We're just going to have
extremely sick children.

1639
01:25:25,908 --> 01:25:30,442
And parents that will be so
distracted by the challenge

1640
01:25:30,476 --> 01:25:33,709
of bringing up these
children that are so sick

1641
01:25:33,743 --> 01:25:36,642
that our society will not be
able to focus on anything else.

1642
01:25:36,676 --> 01:25:38,875
The implications of
that for our country,

1643
01:25:38,908 --> 01:25:40,542
for our competitiveness
as a nation,

1644
01:25:40,576 --> 01:25:43,008
for our economy, are massive.

1645
01:25:43,042 --> 01:25:45,743
They must know, and
they do know,

1646
01:25:45,776 --> 01:25:48,342
that there is a national
emergency.

1647
01:25:48,376 --> 01:25:50,709
I mean this is going to
be a complete catastrophe

1648
01:25:50,743 --> 01:25:52,509
if we just let it happen.

1649
01:25:55,042 --> 01:25:59,409
What will you say the next
time a mother sitting there

1650
01:25:59,442 --> 01:26:04,075
with her baby in her
hands says Dr. Rachel,

1651
01:26:04,109 --> 01:26:06,142
is the MMR vaccine safe?

1652
01:26:06,175 --> 01:26:09,342
Hm... I'm going to tell her.

1653
01:26:09,376 --> 01:26:13,309
I'm going to say, you know,
honestly I'm not going

1654
01:26:13,342 --> 01:26:17,042
to give the MMR vaccine to
my babies, and here's why.

1655
01:27:28,203 --> 01:27:33,203
Subtitles by explosiveskull
www.OpenSubtitles.org