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Horror movies.

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Mutilation,
decapitation, torture.

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Does that sound entertaining?

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In the 80s, horror really
dove into this gritty,

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grimy, gross, horrific,
psychotic exploration

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of the chaotic maniac,

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the questionably
motivated murderer,

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the individual who
seemed to be after

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nothing but a blood lust as
punishment for promiscuity.

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Or materialism.

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Telling stories without
really worrying too much

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about justifying the
horror that these villains

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were imposing upon their victims

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was exploited in a
really wonderful way

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by the filmmakers of the 80s.

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I'm most interested in
fear, the emotion of fear.

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People pay to be scared,
and when you think about it,

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it's real ridiculous.

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Underneath all of
it were these cracks

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in the veneer.

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This place has a
way of making us think

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about the kind of future
our young people will have.

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Nationwide,
we found that minor cases

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of satanic activity
light up the map.

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It's 10 p.m.

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Do you know where
your children are?

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It's very much, for me,
the decade in which America

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tells stories about itself.

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There were hundreds and
hundreds of horror films

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produced in the 80s.

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The essence of sex and violence.

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It is the explosion

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of that video rental
market that fuels

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the modern horror films.

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There's something very
sexually attractive to horror.

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It's almost like
you're attracted to
the forbidden fruit.

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Kids get the movies

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from the horror section
of the video store.

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Most of the violent
movies are rated R,

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and aren't supposed to be seen

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unless you're 17 years old.

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My mom would have died

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if she knew some of the stuff

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I was bringing
home and watching.

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So many weird things
in the movies of the 80s.

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I was genuinely scared.

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Maybe my imagination
was too vivid.

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It is a bit weird, isn't it?

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Strange horror.

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We just wanted to say
things really fast and loud.

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You know?

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Everything was
kind of over the top,

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and we were at a party.

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The 80s were a proving ground

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for horror films to
be commercially viable

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as movies that also were not
intellectually unrespectable.

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We will not be showing
you extreme violence

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in these movies.

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We've picked scenes that
only suggest the violence.

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We want to inform
you, not offend you.

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It's just as well we're not
showing some of those scenes.

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I think people would
turn their sets off.

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Yes.

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I could watch 80s horror
movies on a loop forever.

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It's never enough.

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Thrill me.

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"Death Ship".

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Your holiday in hell.

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"Death Ship" is
about a bunch of people

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on a cruise liner that sinks,

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and the survivors get onto
this passing freighter

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that turns out to be
haunted by Nazi ghosts.

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It's like it's running itself.

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This old ship seems to
have a life of its own.

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The movie stars Richard
Crenna and George Kennedy.

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This is my ship,
and I am the captain.

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It was directed by Alvin Rakoff,

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who primarily was a TV director.

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And it was written by Jack Hill,

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who was friends with
Francis Ford Coppola.

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They actually went to
film school together.

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And then afterwards,
they went and worked

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for Roger Corman on a
movie called "The Terror".

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"Death Ship" was a very early
example of Canuxploitation,

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which was something created
by the Canadian government.

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There was a tax break that
allowed it to be easier

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for Canadian filmmakers
to make movies.

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Thanks to Canuxploitation,

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there were a lot more Canadian
horror films that were made,

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as long as they included
Canadian actors and crew.

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We commit her soul,

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and we commit her body

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to the deep!

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No!

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It's not a very bloody film,

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but it's a very disgusting film.

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It's blood!

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It's blood!

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Hold on!

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There's moments in the film

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where they discover
what the ship is.

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They're going
through the bowels,

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and they start opening drawers,

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and they're finding gold teeth,

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things that were leftover
from tortured prisoners.

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Still running.

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And it makes the
film a lot darker

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than you would initially think.

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Let's get the hell out of here!

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Go!

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Watching it now, it doesn't
have as great an impact

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as it would have back in 1980.

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It hit harder back then.

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Because that was so much
closer to the Holocaust.

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Something
terrifying has happened

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to the children.

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Pray you never meet them.

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So many of these movies
have these idyllic beginnings.

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It's like, look at this town,

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look at these beautiful little
white children on a bus.

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They're singing.

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They love their life,
it's great.

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There's a toxic
plant, there's a leak,

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and the leak is, like,
leaking into the ground.

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This yellow mist is coming
off of this toxic stuff.

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Then we cut to the kids.

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♪ Jolly, we love everybody

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And they all drive
through this yellow mist.

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So we know something
bad is going to happen.

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♪ Cheers to the bus
driver, the bus driver ♪

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The kids never come
home from school.

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They find the bus
abandoned by a cemetery.

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Convenient.

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I just found the school bus,

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about 100 yards from
the Ghoul place.

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Motor's still running,

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but no Fred, no kids.

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This idea of creepy
kids is very pervasive.

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It's universally scary,
because you don't want

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to fear your child.

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Daddy!

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You want to protect
your children.

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These evil kids are different,
because they smile at you,

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and they reach for you,

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and it's very hard
to not go to them.

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And when children will kill you,

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it's just terrifying.

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Particularly if they're,
like, void of a soul.

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Evil kids are always
gonna be scary.

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Whoa.

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Whatever did this
Billy, got Harry too.

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Then once it gets into the
suspense part of the film,

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I'm like, I know this music.

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Mommy!

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This is kind of
the same exact score

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as "Friday the 13th".

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It had a lot of

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without the ch-ch-ch, ah-ah-ah.

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The score of this movie
is by Harry Manfredini.

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Of course, "Friday the 13th"
came out in May of 1980,

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and "The Children"
came out in June.

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Oh my god!

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Daddy!

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Harry Manfredini's score
was more than the budget

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for the actual
filming of the movie.

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Well, you get some violins
and you make them scream.

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I had more money to spend.

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So, consequently it opens
up way more choices.

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There was a score by Jerry
Goldsmith called "Coma"

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where all the violins go

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like that, and I go
wow, that's cool.

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That's effective.

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And so I figured out
how I would do that.

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I'd be running from
the kids, though.

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I'll tell you that.

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I'll tell you that
and three quarters.

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I'd be like, nope.

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Joni!

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No!

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Kathy, don't!

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Don't get got

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by your child with an
inexplicable manicure.

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It is not your child.

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Little Billy has
left the building.

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He gone.

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"Prom Night"

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If you're not back by midnight,
you won't be coming home.

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Slashers, a lot of times,

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especially in 1980 as a
reaction to "Halloween",

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they weren't necessarily
going very deep emotionally.

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That real life
horror of prom night

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is what kind of sets it
apart from a lot of different

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slashers from that time.

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Kill!

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Kill!

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The setup is so vicious that
you really felt the atrocity

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of what happened.

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Six years later,
it's prom night,

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and somebody's gonna pay for
that little girl who died.

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As we go through the
high school experience,

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which everybody knows is
just a form of torture.

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Certain people try to
rectify that experience.

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All these people that had
been carrying this secret

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for so long, you can't
hide stuff like that.

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You just can't.

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Not for long.

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Not forever.

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It's been a long time.

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Tonight, it's my turn.

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The suspense is great.

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You know, the fact that
it's a backwards whodunit,

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because you know, we're
trying to figure out

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who's going to do
it, the whole time.

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How about a muffin?

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No, cookie.

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Like me better now?

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There's always red
herrings in the movie,

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but then, of course, the
killer starts picking them off,

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one by one, like at the prom.

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Kelly!

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You've got Jamie Lee
Curtis at her sassy best,

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and I love her.

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- I did it!
- Oh, shut up!

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She has this little 80s
cut, this little flip thing,

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which is everything that
I needed in my life.

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She is not Laurie
Strode in this thing.

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She's like a popular
girl this time.

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It's reminiscent of so
many other influences.

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"Carrie" is in there.

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"Saturday Night
Fever" is in there.

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♪ The feeling's right

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It's sort of this last
bastion of disco culture.

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♪ Tonight is the night

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Jamie Lee Curtis was
dancing her little booty off

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in this movie, and
I'm here for it.

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One of the fun things
about "Prom Night'"

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is that at the end,
the song that's playing

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is called "Love Me Til I Die".

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♪ Love me til I die

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♪ And keep me satisfied

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Don't necessarily expect
prom to be the best night

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of your lives, because a
lot of people could die.

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- No!
- Now!

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This one, along
with "Terror Train",

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these were the movies
that really solidified

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Jamie Lee Curtis
as a scream queen.

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The big moment
for me is the end,

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and the reaction from
Jamie Lee Curtis,

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because she knows
who's behind it all,

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and it's a real
traumatic moment.

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♪ Imagine something
deep inside ♪

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Watching severed heads
roll out on prom night

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is pretty fun.

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No!

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He knows you're alone

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And it's going to be
for the very last time.

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You know, sometimes
our dogs of the week

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are laughably bad.

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This one borders on being evil.

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Staten Island slasher.

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Love a regional slasher.

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This one you have
Caitlin O'Heaney

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playing a young bride-to-be

264
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who's being stalked
by a serial killer

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right before her wedding.

266
00:13:30,654 --> 00:13:31,907
And I like when a
slasher just tells you

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00:13:31,931 --> 00:13:33,389
who the killer is
at the beginning.

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Here's Ray.

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Ray.

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This is the killer.

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"He Knows You're Alone"
is a 1980s slasher

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directed by Armand Mastroianni.

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He, of course, went on to
direct other 80s entries,

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like "The Clairvoyant",
"The Supernaturals",

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and "Cameron's Closet".

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This one's a bit of an outlier

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because it's actually a
studio produced slasher.

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MGMUA did it.

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So it's got a little
higher production value.

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♪ It's the night again

281
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It's got your garden variety
slasher effects in there,

282
00:14:06,688 --> 00:14:08,826
but there's a memorable
head in a fish tank moment.

283
00:14:10,102 --> 00:14:11,527
Tom Hanks' first movie.

284
00:14:11,551 --> 00:14:13,355
America's favorite, Tom Hanks.

285
00:14:13,379 --> 00:14:16,078
I stretched out an extra
foot to make sure I'd trip you.

286
00:14:16,102 --> 00:14:17,769
Why'd you do that?

287
00:14:17,793 --> 00:14:19,182
Well, it seemed the
best way to meet you.

288
00:14:19,206 --> 00:14:21,941
Apparently, he was
supposed to die in the film,

289
00:14:21,965 --> 00:14:23,907
but they cut it
because of how great

290
00:14:23,931 --> 00:14:25,286
his performance was.

291
00:14:25,309 --> 00:14:27,423
Horror movies and
the roller coasters,

292
00:14:27,447 --> 00:14:28,941
and the House of Horror ride-

293
00:14:28,965 --> 00:14:30,527
I wanna go on that next!

294
00:14:30,551 --> 00:14:33,527
You can face death without
any real fear of dying.

295
00:14:33,551 --> 00:14:34,769
Everyone loves Tom Hanks.

296
00:14:34,793 --> 00:14:35,701
They're like, we
can't fucking kill

297
00:14:35,725 --> 00:14:37,734
this lovable, likable man.

298
00:14:37,758 --> 00:14:38,907
He's a darling.

299
00:14:38,931 --> 00:14:41,136
We're not gonna murder him.

300
00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,734
It came without warning,

301
00:14:56,758 --> 00:14:58,274
and now it's coming for you.

302
00:14:59,688 --> 00:15:01,493
"Without Warning" is from
the great Greydon Clark

303
00:15:01,517 --> 00:15:04,457
and it doesn't get nearly the
amount of praise it deserves.

304
00:15:04,481 --> 00:15:06,769
It's got an amazing
cast, with Jack Palance,

305
00:15:06,793 --> 00:15:09,562
and Martin Landau, who at
the time was mostly known

306
00:15:09,586 --> 00:15:12,907
for "Space: 1999" and
"Mission Impossible".

307
00:15:12,931 --> 00:15:15,630
And he's playing this
wild-haired conspiracy nut,

308
00:15:15,654 --> 00:15:17,596
who's the only one who
knows about the alien,

309
00:15:17,620 --> 00:15:18,769
and no one believes him.

310
00:15:18,793 --> 00:15:20,423
Look, I warned you!

311
00:15:20,447 --> 00:15:21,562
When they start eating on you,

312
00:15:21,586 --> 00:15:23,067
don't come to me for help,

313
00:15:24,136 --> 00:15:25,286
because you ain't getting any.

314
00:15:25,309 --> 00:15:26,664
You've got this gigantic alien

315
00:15:26,688 --> 00:15:28,724
who's on earth to hunt humans.

316
00:15:29,931 --> 00:15:32,975
It throws these little
parasitic alien frisbees

317
00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,344
that latch onto people.

318
00:15:37,724 --> 00:15:39,734
The movie was shot
by Dean Cundey,

319
00:15:39,758 --> 00:15:42,941
who is the award-winning
cinematographer of "The Thing",

320
00:15:42,965 --> 00:15:45,551
as well as numerous other
John Carpenter films.

321
00:15:47,447 --> 00:15:50,734
In 1987 during a press
tour, Arnold Schwarzenegger

322
00:15:50,758 --> 00:15:53,493
stated that the movie
"Without Warning"

323
00:15:53,517 --> 00:15:56,344
was a direct influence
on the movie "Predator".

324
00:15:57,758 --> 00:16:01,216
It's done really well, and it's
such a creepy-looking alien,

325
00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,182
when I saw it when I was little,

326
00:16:03,206 --> 00:16:05,562
it scared the hell out of me.

327
00:16:05,586 --> 00:16:07,078
And who's in the costume?

328
00:16:07,102 --> 00:16:09,793
Kevin Peter Hall, who was in
the costume of the Predator.

329
00:16:11,274 --> 00:16:13,975
The movie made its way to
a company called Filmways,

330
00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,320
who didn't want to release it.

331
00:16:15,344 --> 00:16:17,975
They actually wanted
to bury the film

332
00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,148
Greydon Clark had
to threaten to sue

333
00:16:20,172 --> 00:16:22,000
in order to get
the film released.

334
00:16:23,861 --> 00:16:26,320
Knowing this was the creative
spark for "Predator",

335
00:16:26,344 --> 00:16:27,871
you should absolutely
check it out,

336
00:16:27,895 --> 00:16:30,043
especially if you
love that film.

337
00:16:30,067 --> 00:16:32,344
You can see the influence
coming from here.

338
00:16:44,688 --> 00:16:46,975
By the time they believe in him,

339
00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,136
it will be too late.

340
00:16:50,067 --> 00:16:51,423
"The Boogeyman".

341
00:16:51,447 --> 00:16:52,562
Rated R.

342
00:16:52,586 --> 00:16:54,871
In classic slasher tradition,

343
00:16:54,895 --> 00:16:57,769
this movie starts with a
prologue with children,

344
00:16:57,793 --> 00:17:00,700
who are being
traumatized in some way.

345
00:17:00,724 --> 00:17:02,596
Its "Halloween"
DNA is very present

346
00:17:02,620 --> 00:17:03,528
out of the gate.

347
00:17:03,552 --> 00:17:05,561
With the music, and its POV,

348
00:17:05,586 --> 00:17:07,700
and sort of a voyeuristic thing,

349
00:17:07,723 --> 00:17:11,803
looking at folks engaged
in carnal frivolity.

350
00:17:11,826 --> 00:17:13,009
What are you lookin' at?

351
00:17:13,034 --> 00:17:14,182
They've walked in on their mom

352
00:17:14,205 --> 00:17:15,114
making out with a fella

353
00:17:15,137 --> 00:17:16,654
who then ties up the boy.

354
00:17:17,826 --> 00:17:19,769
The boy's sister,
she cuts him loose.

355
00:17:19,792 --> 00:17:22,344
The boy goes on to kill
the man who tied him up.

356
00:17:26,550 --> 00:17:28,309
And he gets trapped
in this mirror.

357
00:17:35,275 --> 00:17:38,355
He is suddenly a supernatural
presence in their lives.

358
00:17:38,378 --> 00:17:40,078
I know he's here.

359
00:17:40,103 --> 00:17:41,423
Who?

360
00:17:41,448 --> 00:17:44,423
When I broke the
mirror, I released him.

361
00:17:44,448 --> 00:17:45,906
Lacy, he's dead!

362
00:17:45,931 --> 00:17:47,250
There's a guy
sitting in the car,

363
00:17:47,275 --> 00:17:49,758
pricks him in the
neck with a knife.

364
00:17:52,481 --> 00:17:54,423
His girlfriend comes in
through the passenger side

365
00:17:54,448 --> 00:17:56,895
to, like, give him a kiss.

366
00:18:01,136 --> 00:18:02,906
So they're skewered together,

367
00:18:02,931 --> 00:18:05,596
and it's like a
double-death scene.

368
00:18:05,619 --> 00:18:08,078
I never seen a kiss this long.

369
00:18:08,103 --> 00:18:11,113
That was kind of
an amazing kill.

370
00:18:11,136 --> 00:18:13,872
It gets very bizarre,
only because it's like

371
00:18:13,895 --> 00:18:15,664
three different
things in one movie.

372
00:18:15,689 --> 00:18:18,492
Like they were just kind of
throwing everything at it

373
00:18:18,517 --> 00:18:20,172
to see what stuck.

374
00:18:25,275 --> 00:18:26,733
Let's just do all of it.

375
00:18:26,758 --> 00:18:29,733
Let's make it a weird
voyeuristic kinky slasher

376
00:18:29,758 --> 00:18:34,136
supernatural exorcism
cyborg demon thing.

377
00:18:37,517 --> 00:18:39,250
Get away!

378
00:18:39,275 --> 00:18:40,527
There's some unique stuff
happening behind the scenes

379
00:18:40,550 --> 00:18:41,733
on this one.

380
00:18:41,758 --> 00:18:43,872
Susanna Love, and Nicholas Love,

381
00:18:43,895 --> 00:18:45,492
actually brother and
sister in real life,

382
00:18:45,517 --> 00:18:46,733
playing siblings in the film.

383
00:18:46,758 --> 00:18:49,631
Moreover, Susanna is the
co-writer of the film,

384
00:18:49,654 --> 00:18:51,802
and married to her
writing partner

385
00:18:51,826 --> 00:18:54,458
and the director of
the film, Ulli Lommel.

386
00:18:54,481 --> 00:18:57,250
An incredibly
underrated director.

387
00:18:57,275 --> 00:18:59,862
He's imaginative,
he's different.

388
00:19:01,067 --> 00:19:03,423
"Boogeyman" was
a low budget film

389
00:19:03,448 --> 00:19:05,044
that was incredibly successful,

390
00:19:05,067 --> 00:19:08,826
and that's what really
put Lommel over the edge.

391
00:19:14,413 --> 00:19:15,837
The sequel is another
interesting one,

392
00:19:15,862 --> 00:19:18,113
because the "Boogeyman 2"
predates the "Scream" franchise

393
00:19:18,136 --> 00:19:21,596
in that in concerns a
Hollywood production

394
00:19:21,619 --> 00:19:24,596
trying to make a film about
the events of the first film.

395
00:19:24,619 --> 00:19:26,527
So it's very meta in that way,

396
00:19:26,550 --> 00:19:29,309
and meta before there was a
whole lot of meta going on.

397
00:19:30,517 --> 00:19:32,205
Boogeyman!

398
00:19:42,619 --> 00:19:44,319
"Christmas Evil".

399
00:19:44,344 --> 00:19:46,067
The night he dropped in.

400
00:19:47,309 --> 00:19:49,355
I just love horror
set at Christmas.

401
00:19:49,378 --> 00:19:51,586
And in the 80s,
there's tons of it.

402
00:19:54,586 --> 00:19:56,561
Christmas is a time
when things are

403
00:19:56,586 --> 00:19:59,078
supposed to be a certain way,

404
00:19:59,103 --> 00:20:01,976
and horror films are
all about subverting

405
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,527
what it is supposed to be.

406
00:20:03,550 --> 00:20:06,378
And so Christmas and horror
really go hand in hand.

407
00:20:10,136 --> 00:20:13,250
Brandon Maggart plays
a middle-aged man,

408
00:20:13,275 --> 00:20:14,733
doesn't have any friends,

409
00:20:14,758 --> 00:20:17,319
doesn't have a girlfriend,
or anything like that.

410
00:20:17,344 --> 00:20:19,250
Works at a toy factory,

411
00:20:19,275 --> 00:20:23,250
and he likes Christmas
a little bit too much

412
00:20:23,275 --> 00:20:27,078
to the point where he starts
to kill for Christmas.

413
00:20:27,103 --> 00:20:28,976
I have superlative taste.

414
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,000
Merry Christmas!

415
00:20:32,172 --> 00:20:34,458
"Christmas Evil" is a
movie that usually gets

416
00:20:34,481 --> 00:20:37,182
classified as a horror film,

417
00:20:37,205 --> 00:20:41,250
but it's really more of a
psychological character study

418
00:20:41,275 --> 00:20:43,147
similar to "Taxi
Driver", or something,

419
00:20:43,172 --> 00:20:45,631
where you're just
watching this lonely

420
00:20:45,654 --> 00:20:49,654
socially isolated guy
just start to crack.

421
00:20:53,723 --> 00:20:56,631
Lewis Jackson was
obsessed with Fassbender

422
00:20:56,654 --> 00:20:59,172
and German expressionism
at the time of making it.

423
00:21:00,067 --> 00:21:00,977
What are you saying?

424
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,275
I'm gonna play my tune now.

425
00:21:03,792 --> 00:21:04,596
Everybody'll dance.

426
00:21:04,619 --> 00:21:05,528
You'll see.

427
00:21:05,551 --> 00:21:07,561
And adding that art side to it

428
00:21:07,586 --> 00:21:10,147
I believe gives it the
more fantasy element,

429
00:21:10,172 --> 00:21:13,103
and Christmas is based
around magic and fantasy.

430
00:21:14,378 --> 00:21:16,250
The look of the film is great.

431
00:21:16,275 --> 00:21:19,448
Every scene of this
movie glows of Christmas.

432
00:21:20,448 --> 00:21:23,664
Merry Christmas everyone!

433
00:21:23,689 --> 00:21:26,182
The holidays are hard
for a lot of people.

434
00:21:26,205 --> 00:21:28,769
Even if you are
well-off, the holidays

435
00:21:28,792 --> 00:21:30,837
are a very stressful period.

436
00:21:30,862 --> 00:21:32,862
And "Christmas
Evil" captures that.

437
00:21:35,103 --> 00:21:36,010
Harry?

438
00:21:36,035 --> 00:21:37,837
Merry Christmas, Frank!

439
00:21:37,862 --> 00:21:40,596
It's so nightmarish and weird.

440
00:21:40,619 --> 00:21:43,078
You see him tug on his
beard and it doesn't move,

441
00:21:43,103 --> 00:21:44,664
like it becomes a part of him,

442
00:21:44,689 --> 00:21:48,413
like a horror version of Tim
Allen's "The Santa Claus".

443
00:21:50,413 --> 00:21:52,388
Are we seeing him
become Santa Claus,

444
00:21:52,413 --> 00:21:55,136
or is Harry seeing himself
become Santa Claus?

445
00:21:56,205 --> 00:21:59,769
Merry Christmas!

446
00:21:59,792 --> 00:22:02,217
It's a movie that
I think will surprise

447
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:03,941
a lot of people the
first time they watch it,

448
00:22:03,964 --> 00:22:05,319
especially the ending,

449
00:22:05,344 --> 00:22:07,689
because that comes out
of fucking nowhere.

450
00:22:09,103 --> 00:22:10,872
Are we seeing what we're seeing

451
00:22:10,895 --> 00:22:12,596
onscreen actually happening?

452
00:22:12,619 --> 00:22:15,034
Or is this how Harry
is dealing with it?

453
00:22:17,862 --> 00:22:19,837
"Christmas Evil" was
the title of the movie

454
00:22:19,862 --> 00:22:21,769
that the distributor
gave that Lewis Jackson

455
00:22:21,792 --> 00:22:24,388
did not approve of, and
actually didn't know

456
00:22:24,413 --> 00:22:25,906
that it was called
"Christmas Evil"

457
00:22:25,931 --> 00:22:28,250
until he saw the trade when
it was being re-released.

458
00:22:28,275 --> 00:22:30,113
But the film was called
"Better Watch Out".

459
00:22:30,136 --> 00:22:32,009
That's what he filmed
it as, and that's what

460
00:22:32,034 --> 00:22:33,941
he knew it as, and
he still to this day

461
00:22:33,964 --> 00:22:36,664
does not like the
name "Christmas Evil".

462
00:22:36,689 --> 00:22:38,976
♪ Merry Christmas

463
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,182
Fun fact.

464
00:22:40,205 --> 00:22:42,009
Brandon Maggart
would later go on

465
00:22:42,034 --> 00:22:45,527
to become singer Fiona
Apple's dad in real life,

466
00:22:45,550 --> 00:22:47,976
proving once again
that the apple

467
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,413
never falls far from
the Christmas tree.

468
00:22:58,034 --> 00:22:59,527
One of the big reasons
that horror films

469
00:22:59,550 --> 00:23:01,631
have remained so
popular is that it is

470
00:23:01,654 --> 00:23:04,044
a guaranteed way
to make some money.

471
00:23:04,067 --> 00:23:07,355
If you don't spend a hell
of a lot of money on it,

472
00:23:07,378 --> 00:23:08,803
there's gold in those hills.

473
00:23:08,826 --> 00:23:10,561
There are people out
there who are willing

474
00:23:10,586 --> 00:23:13,976
to take a chance on any
kind of horror movie.

475
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,803
And the video
revolution came along,

476
00:23:15,826 --> 00:23:17,664
and it changed everything.

477
00:23:17,689 --> 00:23:20,906
Now this is a video
tape recorder, or VTR,

478
00:23:20,931 --> 00:23:22,078
actually sometimes
they're called

479
00:23:22,103 --> 00:23:24,664
video cassette
recorders, or VCRs.

480
00:23:24,689 --> 00:23:27,906
The ability to play
a movie, or a show,

481
00:23:27,931 --> 00:23:30,664
an entertainment,
at whim, at will,

482
00:23:30,689 --> 00:23:34,000
that did not exist prior to
this home video revolution.

483
00:23:35,586 --> 00:23:37,700
That's the thing that
most people today,

484
00:23:37,723 --> 00:23:39,355
where everything's
accessible and fast,

485
00:23:39,378 --> 00:23:42,423
don't realize that
it was not like that.

486
00:23:42,448 --> 00:23:45,388
Now, some of the best
movies on television

487
00:23:45,413 --> 00:23:46,561
aren't on television.

488
00:23:46,586 --> 00:23:47,976
They're on SelectaVision.

489
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,906
Well, now it was instant
gratification time.

490
00:23:49,931 --> 00:23:51,182
400.

491
00:23:51,205 --> 00:23:52,423
Set it today.

492
00:23:52,448 --> 00:23:54,664
It was a whole world
opened up to people.

493
00:23:54,689 --> 00:23:56,217
Movies in the 50s
and 60s, I mean,

494
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,976
you hoped that a Hammer
film was gonna play

495
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,458
in your neighborhood,
because if it didn't,

496
00:23:59,481 --> 00:24:01,250
you weren't gonna
see it for five years

497
00:24:01,275 --> 00:24:02,388
until it went on television.

498
00:24:02,413 --> 00:24:04,286
You largely couldn't
see it at all,

499
00:24:04,309 --> 00:24:06,872
or if you could, you had
to see it chopped to pieces

500
00:24:06,895 --> 00:24:08,586
on the 4:30 movie.

501
00:24:13,344 --> 00:24:17,217
So when video appeared, it
was like this dam broke.

502
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,596
There was this new
distribution outlet

503
00:24:19,619 --> 00:24:22,423
for these films that were
able to be repackaged

504
00:24:22,448 --> 00:24:24,319
and given a whole
new lease of life,

505
00:24:24,344 --> 00:24:27,700
or films that had only come
out in their native country,

506
00:24:27,723 --> 00:24:29,664
then all of a sudden,
they had an outlet

507
00:24:29,689 --> 00:24:31,355
in other territories.

508
00:24:31,378 --> 00:24:33,448
"The Curse of the Devil".

509
00:24:35,067 --> 00:24:39,664
The video tape revolution
brought a new appreciation

510
00:24:39,689 --> 00:24:42,147
for some of my films,
especially "The Thing".

511
00:24:42,172 --> 00:24:46,319
What really began video, like
with the internet, was porn.

512
00:24:46,344 --> 00:24:47,287
What's it like to become

513
00:24:47,310 --> 00:24:48,976
one of football's cowgirls?

514
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,492
Debbie Does Dallas
has all the answers.

515
00:24:51,517 --> 00:24:54,561
I think the first
VHS I ever bought

516
00:24:54,586 --> 00:24:59,286
was a porn tape that cost,
like, $80 back in the 70s.

517
00:24:59,309 --> 00:25:01,837
How a lot of us consumed
media at that time,

518
00:25:01,862 --> 00:25:04,561
it impacted the way
people made movies.

519
00:25:04,586 --> 00:25:06,837
Especially the
beginning of the VHS,

520
00:25:06,862 --> 00:25:09,217
all the video
stores were private

521
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,803
they're just pop-ups.

522
00:25:10,826 --> 00:25:12,527
They had to buy product.

523
00:25:12,550 --> 00:25:17,550
So they would go out and buy
5000 VHS's for their store.

524
00:25:18,275 --> 00:25:18,942
What did they buy?

525
00:25:18,965 --> 00:25:20,355
Sex and horror.

526
00:25:20,378 --> 00:25:21,596
We cater to their demands.

527
00:25:21,619 --> 00:25:22,390
Whatever, they tell
us what they want,

528
00:25:22,413 --> 00:25:23,803
and we try to get it.

529
00:25:23,826 --> 00:25:25,423
And we have a large
horror section,

530
00:25:25,448 --> 00:25:27,837
and of course with real
heavy nude releases.

531
00:25:27,862 --> 00:25:29,733
We get a lot of films
called B movies.

532
00:25:29,758 --> 00:25:33,423
There's distributors who
were feeding that pipeline,

533
00:25:33,448 --> 00:25:36,000
and they needed somebody
to make the movies.

534
00:25:37,172 --> 00:25:40,009
Those movies, they
became products.

535
00:25:40,034 --> 00:25:42,136
They needed to fit
a certain mold.

536
00:25:43,344 --> 00:25:45,423
"Halloween" and
"Friday the 13th".

537
00:25:45,448 --> 00:25:47,976
These two films
dominated the box office,

538
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,976
and then they
dominated home video.

539
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,976
Once horror started
doing well on video,

540
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,067
that's when everybody
realized it very quickly.

541
00:25:57,481 --> 00:26:01,700
The 80s began the
period of crapola movies

542
00:26:01,723 --> 00:26:03,147
made straight for video,

543
00:26:03,172 --> 00:26:08,034
only to satisfy the
insatiable VHS market.

544
00:26:09,550 --> 00:26:12,355
It was just tons and
tons of new horror movies

545
00:26:12,378 --> 00:26:13,561
being made all the time,

546
00:26:13,586 --> 00:26:15,631
especially the super
low budget ones.

547
00:26:15,654 --> 00:26:17,976
I think everybody with
a camera and 10 bucks

548
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,034
made their own horror
movies back then.

549
00:26:21,619 --> 00:26:24,561
Companies, they were
also buying cheaper films

550
00:26:24,586 --> 00:26:28,182
that were independently
made to put in stores.

551
00:26:28,205 --> 00:26:30,344
And those were your
direct to video days.

552
00:26:31,895 --> 00:26:35,217
Shot on video brought
the price of making a film

553
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,664
down to $50,000, $40,000,
$30,000, and even less.

554
00:26:39,689 --> 00:26:42,250
You could make a movie on Monday

555
00:26:42,275 --> 00:26:44,664
and have it in the video
store by Wednesday.

556
00:26:44,689 --> 00:26:46,113
You didn't need a big studio.

557
00:26:46,136 --> 00:26:49,078
You didn't need to go begging
for someone to produce it.

558
00:26:49,103 --> 00:26:51,078
You could just make your project

559
00:26:51,103 --> 00:26:52,561
and put it out there on video,

560
00:26:52,586 --> 00:26:54,837
which I did many,
many, many times.

561
00:26:54,862 --> 00:26:56,976
Hello darling, and
welcome to another

562
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,319
fabulous Thriller Video.

563
00:26:59,344 --> 00:27:00,837
Thriller Video.

564
00:27:00,862 --> 00:27:02,527
We had a collection
of horror movies

565
00:27:02,550 --> 00:27:05,044
that were kind of
old and tired and bad

566
00:27:05,067 --> 00:27:06,527
that nobody wanted to see,

567
00:27:06,550 --> 00:27:08,906
so I did my wraparound
thing on them,

568
00:27:08,931 --> 00:27:10,631
and we released them to video,

569
00:27:10,654 --> 00:27:13,205
and they sold like hotcakes.

570
00:27:14,550 --> 00:27:17,700
Now this one's in kind
of a different vein,

571
00:27:17,723 --> 00:27:19,113
jugular vein, that is.

572
00:27:19,136 --> 00:27:21,527
There were more
distribution companies

573
00:27:21,550 --> 00:27:23,000
than you could count.

574
00:27:24,826 --> 00:27:26,906
Jack Valenti, the
head of the MPAA,

575
00:27:26,931 --> 00:27:29,492
was whining that video cassettes

576
00:27:29,517 --> 00:27:31,769
would destroy copyright law.

577
00:27:31,792 --> 00:27:34,802
The studios wouldn't
license their stuff.

578
00:27:34,826 --> 00:27:38,078
They saw video as
being a threat.

579
00:27:38,103 --> 00:27:41,078
So there was open field
for anybody who wanted

580
00:27:41,103 --> 00:27:43,250
to start a company.

581
00:27:43,275 --> 00:27:46,275
Charlie Band took
advantage of it the most.

582
00:27:47,586 --> 00:27:50,355
Charles Band was a
pioneer in this time,

583
00:27:50,378 --> 00:27:52,906
creating multiple labels,
putting these films

584
00:27:52,931 --> 00:27:54,103
in video stores.

585
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,078
This is a tough business,

586
00:27:57,103 --> 00:27:58,906
but every business
is challenging.

587
00:27:58,931 --> 00:28:01,654
It was rental that
made the thing explode

588
00:28:02,862 --> 00:28:04,286
Come to the warehouse,

589
00:28:04,309 --> 00:28:05,458
and rent the hit movies you
want when you want them.

590
00:28:05,481 --> 00:28:07,631
Around 1982 is
when the video stores

591
00:28:07,654 --> 00:28:10,664
started doing way, way better.

592
00:28:10,689 --> 00:28:15,319
By 1985 there was around
12,000 video stores

593
00:28:15,344 --> 00:28:16,906
in the United States.

594
00:28:16,931 --> 00:28:18,355
You can
now rent a video overnight,

595
00:28:18,378 --> 00:28:21,872
and hire these great
movies from only 99 cents.

596
00:28:21,895 --> 00:28:26,733
Close to the late 80s,
there was around 40,000 places

597
00:28:26,758 --> 00:28:29,631
that were renting tapes,
so this was a huge impact

598
00:28:29,654 --> 00:28:31,733
for the horror
genre, because people

599
00:28:31,758 --> 00:28:33,286
were renting horror films.

600
00:28:33,309 --> 00:28:36,802
Tapes around that
time weren't $5.

601
00:28:36,826 --> 00:28:38,388
They weren't $2.

602
00:28:38,413 --> 00:28:42,906
They were typically
49.95 up to $100.

603
00:28:42,931 --> 00:28:47,931
So if you had 40,000 stores
buying at least one tape,

604
00:28:49,067 --> 00:28:51,044
you were lining your
pockets full of money.

605
00:28:51,067 --> 00:28:53,136
And this was a million
dollar industry.

606
00:28:54,275 --> 00:28:56,941
And a lot of video
labels had either one

607
00:28:56,964 --> 00:28:59,733
to maybe 20 titles
in their catalog,

608
00:28:59,758 --> 00:29:01,009
but that's all they needed,

609
00:29:01,034 --> 00:29:02,976
because it was
millions of dollars

610
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,423
that they were making.

611
00:29:04,448 --> 00:29:06,527
And then they started
producing their own stuff,

612
00:29:06,550 --> 00:29:08,492
giving filmmakers $50,000,

613
00:29:08,517 --> 00:29:10,286
because they knew that they
were gonna make millions

614
00:29:10,309 --> 00:29:11,596
selling to video stores,

615
00:29:11,619 --> 00:29:13,826
so it just revolutionized
everything.

616
00:29:16,723 --> 00:29:20,113
Troma became a staple
of the home video market,

617
00:29:20,136 --> 00:29:23,182
because we had accumulated
about 60 movies.

618
00:29:23,205 --> 00:29:24,837
We wanted to own our movies,

619
00:29:24,862 --> 00:29:26,423
we wanted to own all the rights,

620
00:29:26,448 --> 00:29:30,596
and we wanted to have a
collection, have a library.

621
00:29:30,619 --> 00:29:34,689
The theory behind Troma
was to own your negatives.

622
00:29:35,895 --> 00:29:38,837
Lloyd Kaufman, Charlie
Band, and Roger Corman,

623
00:29:38,862 --> 00:29:41,388
they were businessmen,
but they were filmmakers.

624
00:29:41,413 --> 00:29:44,319
Those core three are
definitely a huge, huge reason

625
00:29:44,344 --> 00:29:49,344
why the direct to video horror
was so impactful and huge.

626
00:29:50,448 --> 00:29:51,631
As the 80s started winding down,

627
00:29:51,654 --> 00:29:54,596
like every business,
it starts monopolizing.

628
00:29:54,619 --> 00:29:58,631
By the 90s, you had
Blockbuster reading scripts

629
00:29:58,654 --> 00:30:01,182
to give so much shelf space.

630
00:30:01,205 --> 00:30:03,044
Any time there's
a new technology,

631
00:30:03,067 --> 00:30:05,631
the majors, the
oligopoly, the cartel,

632
00:30:05,654 --> 00:30:08,803
throws a monkey wrench into
it, tries to screw it up,

633
00:30:08,826 --> 00:30:10,906
and then they take it over,
which is what happened

634
00:30:10,931 --> 00:30:14,388
with video cassette, Blockbuster
put all the independents

635
00:30:14,413 --> 00:30:15,906
out of business.

636
00:30:15,931 --> 00:30:17,941
♪ Wow what a difference

637
00:30:17,964 --> 00:30:19,527
♪ Blockbuster video

638
00:30:19,550 --> 00:30:22,044
I've never seen 10,000
tapes in one store.

639
00:30:22,067 --> 00:30:24,423
We can really, really
thank the mom and pop stores

640
00:30:24,448 --> 00:30:28,113
out there, because they
carried the really interesting

641
00:30:28,136 --> 00:30:30,423
innovative films that were
out there during the 80s,

642
00:30:30,448 --> 00:30:33,078
films that someone like
Blockbuster wouldn't touch

643
00:30:33,103 --> 00:30:34,561
with a 10 foot pole.

644
00:30:34,586 --> 00:30:36,802
And Blockbuster sure didn't
have that little room

645
00:30:36,826 --> 00:30:39,689
with the fancy
movies back there.

646
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,388
Today you can go out and
make a movie for no money.

647
00:30:43,413 --> 00:30:46,355
I mean, the world has
changed dramatically.

648
00:30:46,378 --> 00:30:49,527
It's still in the story you
tell, if it's compelling,

649
00:30:49,550 --> 00:30:50,906
I mean, whatever the medium is,

650
00:30:50,931 --> 00:30:52,906
you need to be able
to tell a story,

651
00:30:52,931 --> 00:30:55,388
and put it together in
a format that people,

652
00:30:55,413 --> 00:30:57,941
whether they're gonna
rent or buy or download

653
00:30:57,964 --> 00:31:00,631
or view for free,
find entertaining.

654
00:31:00,654 --> 00:31:02,586
That part has not
changed at all.

655
00:31:18,895 --> 00:31:20,561
"Fear No Evil".

656
00:31:20,586 --> 00:31:23,286
It'll scare the
devil out of you.

657
00:31:23,309 --> 00:31:25,596
"Fear No Evil" is
thematically in the vein

658
00:31:25,619 --> 00:31:27,009
of a lot of these
films in the 1980s

659
00:31:27,034 --> 00:31:29,319
where it's like a guy
who gets picked on

660
00:31:29,344 --> 00:31:31,147
has been underestimated.

661
00:31:31,172 --> 00:31:32,492
Be careful who you pick on,

662
00:31:32,517 --> 00:31:34,550
because he might
be the Antichrist.

663
00:31:39,136 --> 00:31:42,286
"Fear No Evil" is
a hormonal overload.

664
00:31:42,309 --> 00:31:43,872
I mean, come on.

665
00:31:43,895 --> 00:31:45,250
High school's hard enough
without the inconvenience

666
00:31:45,275 --> 00:31:47,344
of demonic possession, right?

667
00:31:49,931 --> 00:31:51,527
"Fear No Evil" is like
if Damien from "The Omen"

668
00:31:51,550 --> 00:31:53,964
was in high school,
and was pretty gay.

669
00:31:56,826 --> 00:31:59,286
"Fear No Evil" was really
my coming of age story

670
00:31:59,309 --> 00:32:02,078
in a lot of ways, and
so all that angst,

671
00:32:02,103 --> 00:32:05,103
all of that confusion is
reflected in the film.

672
00:32:06,344 --> 00:32:07,769
There's this scene
in "Fear No Evil",

673
00:32:07,792 --> 00:32:10,700
it's a locker room scene, which
it's definitely the source

674
00:32:10,723 --> 00:32:12,561
of a lot of anxiety
for a lot of people.

675
00:32:12,586 --> 00:32:15,976
This scene is like,
ooh, very cringey.

676
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,941
Only the most
uncomfortable high school

677
00:32:17,964 --> 00:32:19,931
shower scene since "Carrie".

678
00:32:22,550 --> 00:32:23,388
Plug it up!

679
00:32:23,413 --> 00:32:24,413
Plug it up!

680
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,286
Tony goes in to kiss Andrew,

681
00:32:28,309 --> 00:32:31,492
and then Andrew uses
his special devil powers

682
00:32:31,517 --> 00:32:33,113
to make the kiss last longer.

683
00:32:33,136 --> 00:32:34,147
Like, that's his big revenge.

684
00:32:34,172 --> 00:32:36,000
It's like, make the bully gayer.

685
00:32:37,136 --> 00:32:39,906
It's Andrew who's
compelling this,

686
00:32:39,931 --> 00:32:43,448
but Tony's latent homosexuality,

687
00:32:45,172 --> 00:32:46,664
I mean, he hates women, right?

688
00:32:46,689 --> 00:32:48,388
This guy, this thug, Tony.

689
00:32:48,413 --> 00:32:49,976
He's a bully, you know?

690
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,631
Lots of these
bullies are, right?

691
00:32:51,654 --> 00:32:53,733
They can't face
their own sexuality,

692
00:32:53,758 --> 00:32:56,113
and so they take it out
on others in this manner.

693
00:32:56,136 --> 00:32:59,182
Look, if you don't keep your
mouth shut about this, right?

694
00:32:59,205 --> 00:33:00,733
Guess where that was shot?

695
00:33:00,758 --> 00:33:02,664
At my old junior high school.

696
00:33:02,689 --> 00:33:04,664
First day of the
shoot, what I do.

697
00:33:04,689 --> 00:33:07,596
We go in there, we shoot
this, the shower scene.

698
00:33:07,619 --> 00:33:10,423
Get in there with all these
naked guys in the shower,

699
00:33:10,448 --> 00:33:11,872
they're kissing.

700
00:33:11,895 --> 00:33:13,355
They didn't know anything
about it, of course,

701
00:33:13,378 --> 00:33:14,792
until the film was released.

702
00:33:15,931 --> 00:33:17,792
Come on, come on!

703
00:33:19,034 --> 00:33:20,596
I mean, it has a
nice gothic feel.

704
00:33:20,619 --> 00:33:25,034
I wanted it to have
a Hammer Horror feel.

705
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,700
The iconography.

706
00:33:29,723 --> 00:33:32,388
I mean it's so frightening.

707
00:33:32,413 --> 00:33:35,895
All the iconography
surrounding Catholicism.

708
00:33:39,792 --> 00:33:44,792
We raised, ultimately,
540,000 to make the picture.

709
00:33:45,964 --> 00:33:47,147
We had no money to
finish the film,

710
00:33:47,172 --> 00:33:50,044
and I was concerned
that if we got a bite

711
00:33:50,067 --> 00:33:53,250
from a distributor,
that that would be it.

712
00:33:53,275 --> 00:33:55,527
I'd lose control of the picture.

713
00:33:55,550 --> 00:33:56,664
Damn you!

714
00:33:56,689 --> 00:33:58,286
Avco Embassy.

715
00:33:58,309 --> 00:34:01,976
They were the boutique
low budget horror
distribution house.

716
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,664
They had control, total
control, over the final cut,

717
00:34:04,689 --> 00:34:06,631
but they made me make the edits

718
00:34:06,654 --> 00:34:09,112
with an editor that was
assigned to the picture,

719
00:34:09,137 --> 00:34:11,355
and it was horrendous,
because little by little

720
00:34:11,378 --> 00:34:14,655
I saw it restructured,
reorganized, chopped up.

721
00:34:16,068 --> 00:34:19,251
The picture that at best
works in fits and starts.

722
00:34:19,275 --> 00:34:21,802
But what really kills me
is I've read some things

723
00:34:21,827 --> 00:34:24,664
about it being
possibly homophobic.

724
00:34:24,688 --> 00:34:28,976
It's anything but
that, in my estimation.

725
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,413
I mean, it's a coming
of age story, right?

726
00:34:32,585 --> 00:34:34,596
The people that are
particularly inclined

727
00:34:34,619 --> 00:34:36,733
to love "Fear No Evil" are gay.

728
00:34:36,757 --> 00:34:39,940
They consider it campy
enough to have fun with,

729
00:34:39,965 --> 00:34:44,079
or it genuinely moves
them as to their own

730
00:34:44,103 --> 00:34:46,172
coming out struggles.

731
00:34:58,724 --> 00:35:01,492
Unlike "Jaws", where
you're not safe in the water,

732
00:35:01,516 --> 00:35:04,655
this one, you're not safe
if you're on the beach.

733
00:35:10,516 --> 00:35:11,425
"Blood Beach".

734
00:35:11,449 --> 00:35:12,940
The tagline says it all.

735
00:35:12,965 --> 00:35:15,976
Just when you thought it was
safe to go back in the water,

736
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,492
you can't get to it.

737
00:35:17,516 --> 00:35:18,871
It's great to see John Saxon

738
00:35:18,896 --> 00:35:20,251
from "A Nightmare
on Elm Street",

739
00:35:20,275 --> 00:35:22,768
and Burt Young, who's
Paulie from "Rocky",

740
00:35:22,793 --> 00:35:24,217
trying to solve this mystery.

741
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:26,043
He was foolish
enough to lie down

742
00:35:26,068 --> 00:35:27,940
on this particular beach.

743
00:35:27,965 --> 00:35:30,275
Never would've
happened in Chicago.

744
00:35:31,688 --> 00:35:32,940
Yeah, one more remark
like that out of your mouth,

745
00:35:32,965 --> 00:35:34,181
Chicago's where you're gonna be.

746
00:35:34,206 --> 00:35:36,630
It's a charming movie,
and it has a real moody,

747
00:35:36,655 --> 00:35:39,423
beachy feel, from
the opening credits

748
00:35:39,447 --> 00:35:43,757
with this lingering monster
POV vision under the pier.

749
00:35:45,206 --> 00:35:46,976
A $2 million union movie.

750
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,079
Jeffrey Bloom wrote
and directed it.

751
00:35:49,103 --> 00:35:50,724
The coolest guy of all time.

752
00:35:52,619 --> 00:35:54,976
The way our monster that
traveled through the sand,

753
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,043
we did this movie 10
years before "Tremors".

754
00:35:58,068 --> 00:35:59,802
Please help!

755
00:35:59,827 --> 00:36:00,965
Oh god!

756
00:36:04,585 --> 00:36:05,389
Oh god!

757
00:36:05,414 --> 00:36:06,630
What is happening?

758
00:36:06,655 --> 00:36:07,597
Help!

759
00:36:07,621 --> 00:36:08,838
That's me, and the effects guy

760
00:36:08,862 --> 00:36:11,596
yanking those people
under the sand.

761
00:36:11,619 --> 00:36:14,217
We got a tractor out
there on the beach

762
00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:16,492
by the Santa Monica Pier,

763
00:36:16,516 --> 00:36:19,251
and we dug a big pit,
and we built a big

764
00:36:19,275 --> 00:36:21,664
rubber membrane
with a slit in it,

765
00:36:21,688 --> 00:36:24,838
and he and I, down in the pit,

766
00:36:24,862 --> 00:36:28,355
and when they are acting,
and flailing around,

767
00:36:28,378 --> 00:36:30,423
they are kicking like crazy.

768
00:36:30,447 --> 00:36:32,596
And we are grabbing
onto them like crazy,

769
00:36:32,619 --> 00:36:35,940
yanking them under.

770
00:36:35,965 --> 00:36:37,378
Ah, it was so much fun.

771
00:36:45,206 --> 00:36:47,251
The monster didn't
turn out that great.

772
00:36:47,275 --> 00:36:50,079
The effects guy, bless
his heart, did his best.

773
00:36:50,103 --> 00:36:52,458
I know the director
was not happy with it.

774
00:36:52,481 --> 00:36:55,527
But, you know, like not
showing the shark in "Jaws",

775
00:36:55,550 --> 00:36:57,724
it worked to an advantage.

776
00:37:00,344 --> 00:37:03,838
We built all these sets
onstage at Culver City Studios,

777
00:37:03,862 --> 00:37:07,010
where this monster lived, and
it was all supposed to look

778
00:37:07,034 --> 00:37:08,527
like Santa Monica
Pier, and whatnot,

779
00:37:08,550 --> 00:37:10,043
but I brought
seaweed in my trunk

780
00:37:10,068 --> 00:37:12,112
and threw the seaweed
behind the stage.

781
00:37:12,137 --> 00:37:13,931
Begins to take on the shape,

782
00:37:15,516 --> 00:37:16,976
where it slept.

783
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,217
I think Smell-O-Vision is a
very important part of sets.

784
00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:21,355
You don't want it to
smell like latex paint.

785
00:37:21,378 --> 00:37:23,664
We want it to smell like
whatever it's supposed

786
00:37:23,688 --> 00:37:24,494
to smell like.

787
00:37:24,518 --> 00:37:25,793
It really helped.

788
00:37:27,034 --> 00:37:29,527
I ended up with the
monster on my ranch,

789
00:37:29,550 --> 00:37:32,320
where my nieces and nephews
played in it for years

790
00:37:32,344 --> 00:37:34,043
until it slowly withered away.

791
00:37:34,068 --> 00:37:36,527
I saved its head in
my monster collection.

792
00:37:36,550 --> 00:37:39,768
But that's the sorry end of
the "Blood Beach" monster.

793
00:37:39,793 --> 00:37:41,079
It's also one of
those lost movies.

794
00:37:41,103 --> 00:37:44,043
It came out on VHS,
and then that's it.

795
00:37:44,068 --> 00:37:47,010
It's legendary for
being caught in limbo,

796
00:37:47,034 --> 00:37:50,251
rights-wise, and
residual payment-wise.

797
00:37:50,275 --> 00:37:52,010
Jeffrey Bloom, the
director, told me,

798
00:37:52,034 --> 00:37:54,320
I don't think he's ever made
any money off the picture,

799
00:37:54,344 --> 00:37:56,355
and he wrote and directed it.

800
00:37:56,378 --> 00:37:58,976
It's really a
mishmash of problems.

801
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,389
I'd love to see that reissued,

802
00:38:00,413 --> 00:38:03,148
somehow, if somebody
could untangle the issues

803
00:38:03,172 --> 00:38:05,240
surrounding poor
old "Blood Beach".

804
00:38:15,378 --> 00:38:16,182
Oh, "The Hand".

805
00:38:16,206 --> 00:38:17,378
Oh my god.

806
00:38:19,793 --> 00:38:23,976
Michael Caine in "The Hand".

807
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,458
It could have been so not good,

808
00:38:25,481 --> 00:38:28,596
because it's about an artist
whose hand gets cut off,

809
00:38:28,619 --> 00:38:31,423
and the hand goes
around committing crimes

810
00:38:31,447 --> 00:38:35,768
that he's trying not to commit.

811
00:38:35,793 --> 00:38:37,688
The hand goes and does it.

812
00:38:43,896 --> 00:38:46,148
Oliver Stone, he had
gotten a lot of notice

813
00:38:46,172 --> 00:38:48,320
with "Midnight Express".

814
00:38:48,344 --> 00:38:53,344
And he thought "The Hand"
was gonna be a major movie.

815
00:38:56,206 --> 00:38:59,389
Made and released
by a major studio,

816
00:38:59,413 --> 00:39:02,112
but it had this really hopped up

817
00:39:02,137 --> 00:39:06,148
kind of exploitation tone to it

818
00:39:06,172 --> 00:39:08,838
that was very Corman.

819
00:39:08,862 --> 00:39:12,965
It just was really
intense and outrageous.

820
00:39:15,344 --> 00:39:18,355
I rented it as a kid
because I knew it dealt

821
00:39:18,378 --> 00:39:23,378
with comic books, and
like a phantom appendage.

822
00:39:24,793 --> 00:39:27,492
So there's this guy on the
verge of a nervous breakdown,

823
00:39:27,516 --> 00:39:30,940
I guess, and he is
a comic book artist,

824
00:39:30,965 --> 00:39:34,079
like a famous, established
comic book artist.

825
00:39:34,103 --> 00:39:36,217
His marriage is on the rocks.

826
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:37,838
There's this scene,

827
00:39:37,862 --> 00:39:39,976
as a kid, it was
really horrific.

828
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,871
It's Michael Caine, you know,
one of our greatest actors,

829
00:39:42,896 --> 00:39:44,793
squirting blood
all over the place.

830
00:39:48,655 --> 00:39:51,181
Anybody who messes
with Michael Caine

831
00:39:51,206 --> 00:39:52,240
gets the hand.

832
00:39:55,034 --> 00:39:57,010
Killing anybody that's
standing in the way

833
00:39:57,034 --> 00:39:58,034
of his mission.

834
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,688
Or is it?

835
00:40:05,965 --> 00:40:08,561
He doesn't know if he's insane,

836
00:40:08,585 --> 00:40:11,827
or there really is a
disembodied hand chasing him.

837
00:40:13,034 --> 00:40:14,871
Michael Caine's
a terrific actor,

838
00:40:14,896 --> 00:40:18,043
but he went through a
period where he never saw

839
00:40:18,068 --> 00:40:19,862
a paycheck he didn't like.

840
00:40:21,275 --> 00:40:22,976
They call it the Michael
Caine School of Acting,

841
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,275
you know, when you
get a role, take it.

842
00:40:28,378 --> 00:40:31,802
Even if the material
isn't good, he delivered.

843
00:40:31,827 --> 00:40:33,516
I think that at least you-

844
00:40:36,344 --> 00:40:37,344
I think.

845
00:40:38,827 --> 00:40:40,043
You should get out of here.

846
00:40:40,068 --> 00:40:43,320
And it always elevated
every movie he was in.

847
00:40:43,344 --> 00:40:46,458
It's from a book called
"The Lizard's Tail".

848
00:40:46,481 --> 00:40:49,010
We struggled for
many, many months

849
00:40:49,034 --> 00:40:53,217
playing with that idea of
what is the sound of the hand?

850
00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:54,733
Does it breathe?

851
00:40:54,757 --> 00:40:57,630
Is it just fingernail
sounds when it's crawling?

852
00:40:57,655 --> 00:40:59,423
Because whenever
the hand approached,

853
00:40:59,447 --> 00:41:01,940
we wanted to get into
that sound design moment

854
00:41:01,965 --> 00:41:04,320
of the universe, the
sound universe changes.

855
00:41:04,344 --> 00:41:07,217
And we brought in a
team of trained actors

856
00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:09,940
who would do group
vocalizations,

857
00:41:09,965 --> 00:41:14,181
but we had them do what
we called Fellini-esque

858
00:41:14,206 --> 00:41:17,976
vocalizations, so we did
weird breathing patterns,

859
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,550
and freeform screaming.

860
00:41:26,931 --> 00:41:29,103
It's really, really cool stuff.

861
00:41:33,481 --> 00:41:35,561
For a disembodied hand movie,
it's quite well-written.

862
00:41:35,585 --> 00:41:38,423
As I used to say in
marketing the movie,

863
00:41:38,447 --> 00:41:41,251
it's one of the best
disembodied hand movies ever.

864
00:41:41,275 --> 00:41:43,768
What happened to the hand?

865
00:41:43,793 --> 00:41:45,585
Oh, mommy went to look for it.

866
00:41:47,413 --> 00:41:48,413
But it ran away.

867
00:41:55,724 --> 00:41:57,355
"Bloody Birthday".

868
00:41:57,378 --> 00:41:59,871
A terrifying journey
into the bizarre.

869
00:41:59,896 --> 00:42:02,079
Will you get out alive?

870
00:42:02,103 --> 00:42:05,010
Three kids are born at
the same time in a hospital

871
00:42:05,034 --> 00:42:06,827
during an eclipse.

872
00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:10,148
It's a boy, Mrs. Taylor!

873
00:42:10,172 --> 00:42:12,940
And for some reason,
this has astrologically

874
00:42:12,965 --> 00:42:14,458
made them evil.

875
00:42:14,481 --> 00:42:17,965
When they get to be 10, they
sort of go on killing spree.

876
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:28,768
It plays on the fear
of how scary kids can be,

877
00:42:28,793 --> 00:42:31,423
especially if they
don't have the influence

878
00:42:31,447 --> 00:42:33,802
of discipline, and adults.

879
00:42:33,827 --> 00:42:36,561
Like that scene with the cake.

880
00:42:36,585 --> 00:42:38,010
That's terrifying.

881
00:42:38,034 --> 00:42:40,768
He's trying to make her think

882
00:42:40,793 --> 00:42:42,940
that he's poisoning the cake.

883
00:42:42,965 --> 00:42:45,137
The poison was just
sitting on the counter.

884
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:46,976
I was putting it away.

885
00:42:47,001 --> 00:42:48,251
You were not, you little liar!

886
00:42:48,275 --> 00:42:51,251
That scene is so messed up,

887
00:42:51,275 --> 00:42:54,286
because he knows what
he's doing as a child,

888
00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:58,217
and taking advantage of
his seemingly innocence

889
00:42:58,240 --> 00:42:59,965
for his own benefit.

890
00:43:04,034 --> 00:43:07,148
Debbie, she's a
horrible little child.

891
00:43:07,172 --> 00:43:08,389
I just love her as a villain.

892
00:43:08,413 --> 00:43:10,043
Can you and Timmy
come over to babysit?

893
00:43:10,068 --> 00:43:11,286
Sure.

894
00:43:11,309 --> 00:43:12,286
What time do you
want me to come over?

895
00:43:12,311 --> 00:43:13,768
11 o'clock.

896
00:43:13,793 --> 00:43:15,010
Okay.

897
00:43:15,034 --> 00:43:17,355
My little sister
is selling tickets

898
00:43:17,378 --> 00:43:21,699
to watch me, you
know, get naked.

899
00:43:21,724 --> 00:43:24,733
I was very young, it was
one of my first years

900
00:43:24,757 --> 00:43:26,148
as an actress.

901
00:43:26,172 --> 00:43:28,423
So many actresses, especially
at that time in the 80s,

902
00:43:28,447 --> 00:43:30,492
that they had some sort of film

903
00:43:30,516 --> 00:43:33,871
where they had to be naked or
topless or something, right?

904
00:43:33,896 --> 00:43:35,871
It wasn't that uncommon.

905
00:43:35,896 --> 00:43:37,940
So I thought, okay.

906
00:43:37,965 --> 00:43:42,389
I wasn't gonna, like, be
topless in the audition.

907
00:43:42,413 --> 00:43:45,389
So they said, well, we
need to see your boobs.

908
00:43:45,413 --> 00:43:46,733
And I'm like, why?

909
00:43:46,757 --> 00:43:47,666
And they go, because
what if you have

910
00:43:47,690 --> 00:43:48,699
a weird boob or something?

911
00:43:48,724 --> 00:43:50,148
So I took my top
off in the room,

912
00:43:50,172 --> 00:43:51,458
and I took a Polaroid.

913
00:43:51,481 --> 00:43:53,527
And then they let the
director look at it,

914
00:43:53,550 --> 00:43:54,931
and they gave it back to me.

915
00:43:56,619 --> 00:43:58,630
I don't know how
other girls are cast

916
00:43:58,655 --> 00:44:01,206
for topless things, but
that's what happened to me.

917
00:44:02,688 --> 00:44:05,976
And there's a little hole
between the closet and her room,

918
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,802
and I look in there, and
then they hit me in the eye

919
00:44:08,827 --> 00:44:11,172
with an arrow, and
that's how I die.

920
00:44:16,965 --> 00:44:18,907
They're dragging
my dead body around

921
00:44:18,931 --> 00:44:20,251
for a big portion of it.

922
00:44:20,275 --> 00:44:22,688
And that's depressing.

923
00:44:25,172 --> 00:44:26,492
And at first I
wouldn't talk about it,

924
00:44:26,516 --> 00:44:29,320
but then I thought,
really, who cares?

925
00:44:29,344 --> 00:44:30,838
Right?

926
00:44:30,862 --> 00:44:33,034
Even though honestly my
son doesn't know about it,

927
00:44:33,896 --> 00:44:34,838
and he's never seen it.

928
00:44:34,862 --> 00:44:36,492
So.

929
00:44:36,516 --> 00:44:37,699
Debbie?

930
00:44:37,724 --> 00:44:38,724
What's wrong, Debbie?

931
00:44:40,344 --> 00:44:42,940
"Bloody Birthday" wasn't
well-received at all

932
00:44:42,965 --> 00:44:45,630
when it came out,
because of the fact that

933
00:44:45,655 --> 00:44:47,148
these were evil kids.

934
00:44:47,172 --> 00:44:48,630
People would get so offended

935
00:44:48,655 --> 00:44:51,976
by all the sexual and violent
situations placed in it,

936
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,447
but the kids were actually
having a great time,

937
00:44:55,378 --> 00:44:56,286
and they thought
it was playtime,

938
00:44:56,311 --> 00:44:59,181
and that was comforting to know,

939
00:44:59,206 --> 00:45:01,148
because we wouldn't want
them to be traumatized

940
00:45:01,172 --> 00:45:02,492
at all by the experience.

941
00:45:02,516 --> 00:45:05,931
Does anybody know what
the word murder means?

942
00:45:13,827 --> 00:45:16,275
Pray you're not invited.

943
00:45:17,550 --> 00:45:20,768
If you get a great
image on the cover,

944
00:45:20,793 --> 00:45:21,976
that's half the battle.

945
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,423
And when you see that
guy with his mouth open,

946
00:45:23,447 --> 00:45:25,630
and the skewer, the
shish kabob is going in,

947
00:45:25,655 --> 00:45:27,112
like, I'm in.

948
00:45:27,137 --> 00:45:29,181
And Melissa Sue
Anderson, who is from

949
00:45:29,206 --> 00:45:30,619
Little House on the Prairie.

950
00:45:31,793 --> 00:45:35,664
This was gonna be her
big moment as an adult,

951
00:45:35,688 --> 00:45:39,481
playing a high school
girl in a slasher flick.

952
00:45:40,413 --> 00:45:42,010
This was more like the tail end

953
00:45:42,034 --> 00:45:44,355
of the holiday murder movies,

954
00:45:44,378 --> 00:45:46,320
so people were still
taking it seriously.

955
00:45:46,344 --> 00:45:48,655
They were like okay, we're
gonna ride this wave.

956
00:45:50,068 --> 00:45:51,733
This could be a massive hit,

957
00:45:51,757 --> 00:45:54,492
so let's really, really
go for it, you know?

958
00:45:54,516 --> 00:45:57,630
It's about this group of
kids at this elite school.

959
00:45:57,655 --> 00:45:59,596
The killer is one of
them, because every time

960
00:45:59,619 --> 00:46:01,976
someone gets killed,
it's like, oh it's you.

961
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,389
Virginia, who was kinda
new to this group,

962
00:46:04,413 --> 00:46:07,079
we slowly learn that
she has these holes

963
00:46:07,103 --> 00:46:08,010
in her memory.

964
00:46:08,034 --> 00:46:09,389
And today I remembered.

965
00:46:09,413 --> 00:46:10,630
Yes.

966
00:46:10,655 --> 00:46:13,251
And tomorrow, you
will remember more.

967
00:46:13,275 --> 00:46:14,079
Even the-

968
00:46:14,103 --> 00:46:15,286
Even the accident.

969
00:46:15,309 --> 00:46:16,940
Her friends are like,
they're disappearing

970
00:46:16,965 --> 00:46:18,585
more than dying.

971
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,010
So she has all this trauma
around her birthday,

972
00:46:22,034 --> 00:46:24,000
which should be a
moment of celebration.

973
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:26,802
Hi there.

974
00:46:26,827 --> 00:46:27,632
Rudy!

975
00:46:27,655 --> 00:46:28,838
Where have you been?

976
00:46:28,862 --> 00:46:30,871
Who's doing the killing?

977
00:46:30,896 --> 00:46:32,043
Is it her?

978
00:46:32,068 --> 00:46:33,413
Because she's messed up?

979
00:46:35,275 --> 00:46:36,148
Or is it not?

980
00:46:36,172 --> 00:46:37,664
Lighten up!

981
00:46:37,688 --> 00:46:39,320
You touch me again, I'm
gonna fucking kill you!

982
00:46:39,344 --> 00:46:41,079
And that's a very
real, tangible,

983
00:46:41,103 --> 00:46:46,103
real life fear, of having a
part of your whole memory gone.

984
00:46:47,481 --> 00:46:48,871
What happened
before the accident?

985
00:46:48,896 --> 00:46:51,458
You've got to try to remember.

986
00:46:51,481 --> 00:46:53,355
The kills are great.

987
00:46:53,378 --> 00:46:54,596
The gore is great.

988
00:46:54,619 --> 00:46:58,309
There's some very good
tense moments in it.

989
00:47:01,240 --> 00:47:02,871
One of the classic
kills from this movie.

990
00:47:02,896 --> 00:47:04,010
We have Greg.

991
00:47:04,034 --> 00:47:06,103
He's doing his weights,
he's very strong.

992
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,940
Okay, that's it.

993
00:47:08,965 --> 00:47:13,275
Holds the weight above
his penis, and drops it.

994
00:47:16,619 --> 00:47:17,527
Greg is dead.

995
00:47:17,552 --> 00:47:18,976
From a weight to the peen.

996
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,688
Yup.

997
00:47:22,068 --> 00:47:23,733
I panicked!

998
00:47:23,757 --> 00:47:26,112
I came here, god I
thought you'd help me!

999
00:47:26,137 --> 00:47:27,699
So the ending of
"Happy Birthday" to me

1000
00:47:27,724 --> 00:47:29,733
is what stuck with me

1001
00:47:29,757 --> 00:47:33,802
all my life, because it's crazy.

1002
00:47:33,827 --> 00:47:38,423
♪ Happy birthday to me

1003
00:47:38,447 --> 00:47:42,103
♪ Happy birthday to me

1004
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,079
Pray for day.

1005
00:47:50,103 --> 00:47:51,527
"Hell Night".

1006
00:47:51,550 --> 00:47:53,355
One of my favorite
things about "Hell Night'"

1007
00:47:53,378 --> 00:47:55,768
is just being able
to see Linda Blair

1008
00:47:55,793 --> 00:47:56,802
do something different.

1009
00:47:56,827 --> 00:47:58,344
Who's she?

1010
00:47:59,757 --> 00:48:01,423
Oh, that's one
of the new pledges.

1011
00:48:01,447 --> 00:48:02,389
They call her Marty.

1012
00:48:02,414 --> 00:48:03,664
And it feels almost like,

1013
00:48:03,688 --> 00:48:05,976
what if Regan survives
after "The Exorcist",

1014
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,827
and she decides
to go to college?

1015
00:48:09,206 --> 00:48:10,423
She's gonna go and
be in a sorority,

1016
00:48:10,447 --> 00:48:11,596
and she's gonna have
this normal life,

1017
00:48:11,619 --> 00:48:12,871
and she ends up
stuck in this mansion

1018
00:48:12,896 --> 00:48:15,561
where it's like a
weird, mutant offspring.

1019
00:48:15,585 --> 00:48:18,527
It feels really unusual
compared to a lot

1020
00:48:18,550 --> 00:48:21,664
of the other sort of teen
and 20-something centric

1021
00:48:21,688 --> 00:48:25,458
horror movies that were
coming out in the early 1980s.

1022
00:48:25,481 --> 00:48:27,802
In 1850, Virgil Garth
built this mansion

1023
00:48:27,827 --> 00:48:29,733
with the gold that was
pouring out of his mines.

1024
00:48:29,757 --> 00:48:31,596
So they introduce
this whole backstory

1025
00:48:31,619 --> 00:48:34,079
about Garth Manor, and this
guy who kills his family,

1026
00:48:34,103 --> 00:48:36,940
like he kills his wife,
and he has mutated kids.

1027
00:48:36,965 --> 00:48:39,148
And then Raymond
Garth got a rope

1028
00:48:39,172 --> 00:48:40,655
and hung himself to death.

1029
00:48:42,309 --> 00:48:43,871
And then he hangs himself,

1030
00:48:43,896 --> 00:48:46,079
but two of the kids are missing.

1031
00:48:46,103 --> 00:48:48,871
It was like okay, we're gonna
throw a couple sorority girls

1032
00:48:48,896 --> 00:48:51,251
and a couple fraternity
brothers in a house overnight

1033
00:48:51,275 --> 00:48:52,596
and see what happens.

1034
00:48:52,619 --> 00:48:54,000
We'll see you four a dawn.

1035
00:48:56,965 --> 00:48:58,043
Just about six hours.

1036
00:48:58,068 --> 00:48:59,871
You have Peter
Barton and Linda Blair,

1037
00:48:59,896 --> 00:49:01,320
and they're sort of hanging out,

1038
00:49:01,344 --> 00:49:03,619
and then you've got
promiscuous gal,

1039
00:49:04,481 --> 00:49:05,733
and then the stoner surfer dude,

1040
00:49:05,757 --> 00:49:07,458
and they're gonna get
together and have fun.

1041
00:49:07,481 --> 00:49:08,838
Hey!

1042
00:49:08,862 --> 00:49:11,389
And then it evolves
into this whole

1043
00:49:11,413 --> 00:49:15,103
elaborate gothic
nightmare for them.

1044
00:49:19,619 --> 00:49:23,079
Peter Barton, he actually
did get hurt during the film,

1045
00:49:23,103 --> 00:49:24,802
so there's a lot of the
movie where you see him

1046
00:49:24,827 --> 00:49:26,355
limping around, but
that was very real.

1047
00:49:26,378 --> 00:49:29,585
That wasn't because of what
happened to his character.

1048
00:49:31,206 --> 00:49:32,148
No!

1049
00:49:32,172 --> 00:49:33,251
They couldn't stop filming,

1050
00:49:33,275 --> 00:49:34,733
so they just had
to push forward,

1051
00:49:34,757 --> 00:49:37,838
and he basically had to
work through an ankle injury

1052
00:49:37,862 --> 00:49:39,103
for like half the movie.

1053
00:49:40,344 --> 00:49:41,251
It's got some issues,
but I think ultimately,

1054
00:49:41,275 --> 00:49:42,630
"Hell Night" really stands out

1055
00:49:42,655 --> 00:49:45,320
in comparison to a lot
of other horror movies

1056
00:49:45,344 --> 00:49:48,000
that were coming out
around the same time.

1057
00:49:59,481 --> 00:50:01,664
A gem I discovered on
cable back in the 80s,

1058
00:50:01,688 --> 00:50:03,527
and that I push on
people as often as I can

1059
00:50:03,550 --> 00:50:05,010
is "The Unseen".

1060
00:50:05,034 --> 00:50:06,630
The terror is unleashed.

1061
00:50:06,655 --> 00:50:07,871
No!

1062
00:50:07,896 --> 00:50:09,976
The horror is unequal.

1063
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,768
"The Unseen".

1064
00:50:11,793 --> 00:50:14,871
"The Unseen" is about
an all-woman news crew

1065
00:50:14,896 --> 00:50:17,561
who are covering a festival
in Solvang California.

1066
00:50:17,585 --> 00:50:20,907
They screwed up, someone didn't
make a hotel reservation.

1067
00:50:20,931 --> 00:50:22,043
They have nowhere to stay.

1068
00:50:22,068 --> 00:50:24,112
They hit up this
museum where they find

1069
00:50:24,137 --> 00:50:28,010
the great Sydney Lassick, who
offers them a place to stay.

1070
00:50:28,034 --> 00:50:29,492
It's, it's not the Ritz,

1071
00:50:29,516 --> 00:50:32,079
but it'll run a close second.

1072
00:50:32,103 --> 00:50:32,942
Sure.

1073
00:50:32,965 --> 00:50:34,423
That's great.

1074
00:50:34,447 --> 00:50:35,389
The leader of this news
crew is Barbara Bach.

1075
00:50:35,414 --> 00:50:36,940
Of course, Mrs. Ringo Starr,

1076
00:50:36,965 --> 00:50:38,940
the Bond girl from
"The Spy Who Loved Me".

1077
00:50:38,965 --> 00:50:40,492
It's remarkable.

1078
00:50:40,516 --> 00:50:41,724
I'm impressed.

1079
00:50:42,550 --> 00:50:43,356
Scat.

1080
00:50:43,380 --> 00:50:44,940
Get off there, Ralph.

1081
00:50:44,965 --> 00:50:46,320
Sydney Lassick is one of
the great character actors

1082
00:50:46,344 --> 00:50:47,976
of the second half
of the 20th century.

1083
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,112
He was in "One Flew
Over the Cuckoo's Nest".

1084
00:50:50,137 --> 00:50:53,251
He was in "Alligator"
as the pet store owner.

1085
00:50:53,275 --> 00:50:54,492
He is off the chain.

1086
00:50:54,516 --> 00:50:55,527
He is just going
for it in this film.

1087
00:50:55,550 --> 00:50:57,481
Boo!

1088
00:51:00,275 --> 00:51:03,148
It's a delight to watch
him just chew the scenery.

1089
00:51:03,172 --> 00:51:05,724
Don't concern yourself
with that, Virginia.

1090
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,664
Just get the room ready.

1091
00:51:08,688 --> 00:51:10,010
The secret sauce of "The Unseen"

1092
00:51:10,034 --> 00:51:11,768
is that it's very,
very talented people

1093
00:51:11,793 --> 00:51:13,585
doing something
very, very unsavory.

1094
00:51:15,413 --> 00:51:18,802
Sydney Lassick's wife in
the film, Leila Goldoni,

1095
00:51:18,827 --> 00:51:21,561
and he have a couple
of very intense scenes

1096
00:51:21,585 --> 00:51:24,757
about a secret that they
have in their basement.

1097
00:51:26,172 --> 00:51:27,527
They could find out.

1098
00:51:27,550 --> 00:51:28,896
Don't worry, my dear.

1099
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,724
No one will ever find out.

1100
00:51:33,103 --> 00:51:35,630
Junior in the film is this
developmentally disabled

1101
00:51:35,655 --> 00:51:38,768
grown man wearing a diaper
living in the basement.

1102
00:51:38,793 --> 00:51:40,585
I see you've met Junior.

1103
00:51:41,931 --> 00:51:44,871
Played by Flounder
from "Animal House",

1104
00:51:44,896 --> 00:51:45,735
the late great Stephen Furst.

1105
00:51:45,759 --> 00:51:46,976
And you come to find out

1106
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,630
he's accidentally
killing these women

1107
00:51:48,655 --> 00:51:50,309
because he doesn't
know his own strength.

1108
00:51:54,550 --> 00:51:55,356
"The Unseen" is,
in a lot of ways,

1109
00:51:55,380 --> 00:51:56,802
not a defensible film.

1110
00:51:56,827 --> 00:51:58,664
Ingestion is not endorsement.

1111
00:51:58,688 --> 00:52:00,010
I enjoyed it despite
how wrong it is.

1112
00:52:00,034 --> 00:52:01,619
Boo!

1113
00:52:13,688 --> 00:52:15,976
"The Prowler" is a
stalk slasher plot

1114
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,251
with a group of kids getting
ready for a graduation party

1115
00:52:19,275 --> 00:52:21,112
and they're stalked and killed

1116
00:52:21,137 --> 00:52:23,871
by a mysterious
killer in a GI outfit,

1117
00:52:23,896 --> 00:52:25,206
in Cape May, New Jersey.

1118
00:52:29,585 --> 00:52:31,423
There's a little
historical thrill

1119
00:52:31,447 --> 00:52:33,217
to seeing Farley
Granger from "Rope"

1120
00:52:33,240 --> 00:52:34,664
and "Strangers on a Train"

1121
00:52:34,688 --> 00:52:37,423
in an 80s slasher,
as like the sheriff

1122
00:52:37,447 --> 00:52:38,871
with a mysterious past.

1123
00:52:38,896 --> 00:52:40,492
Just some deodorant.

1124
00:52:40,516 --> 00:52:43,664
No sweat.

1125
00:52:43,688 --> 00:52:44,907
Get it?

1126
00:52:44,931 --> 00:52:47,112
That keeps you on
the edge of your seat.

1127
00:52:47,137 --> 00:52:49,699
You're just like, oh
god, he's right there.

1128
00:52:49,724 --> 00:52:51,619
Oh god, ugh, you know?

1129
00:52:55,137 --> 00:52:56,596
It's Savini at his best, man.

1130
00:52:56,619 --> 00:52:59,516
The kills are fucking
crazy, the gore is nuts.

1131
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,516
Tom Savini did some of
his best work in the film.

1132
00:53:07,724 --> 00:53:09,043
That kill scene in
the swimming pool

1133
00:53:09,068 --> 00:53:10,976
goes on forever.

1134
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,862
It's unbearable to watch.

1135
00:53:20,413 --> 00:53:22,976
Also one of the first
exploding heads.

1136
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,079
I don't think it was the
first exploding head,

1137
00:53:25,103 --> 00:53:26,965
but it was one of them.

1138
00:53:28,896 --> 00:53:33,389
It was the first pairing
of Savini and Zito,

1139
00:53:33,413 --> 00:53:36,378
who then went on to do
"Friday the 13th" part four.

1140
00:53:37,724 --> 00:53:39,768
Zito, man, say what you want,

1141
00:53:39,793 --> 00:53:41,309
but he had a great eye for it.

1142
00:53:47,688 --> 00:53:50,286
Putting aside George Romero's
relationship with Savini,

1143
00:53:50,309 --> 00:53:52,664
no director films
Tom Savini's kills

1144
00:53:52,688 --> 00:53:54,355
better than Jo Zito.

1145
00:53:54,378 --> 00:53:56,217
And I think that that
is front and center

1146
00:53:56,240 --> 00:53:57,458
of "The Prowler".

1147
00:53:57,481 --> 00:53:58,733
Not only how Savini
has designed them,

1148
00:53:58,757 --> 00:54:00,423
but that the director
has listened to Savini

1149
00:54:00,447 --> 00:54:02,827
in terms of how to
present those things.

1150
00:54:04,413 --> 00:54:06,217
There's something so
perverse about riffing

1151
00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:07,699
on the "Psycho" shower scene,

1152
00:54:07,724 --> 00:54:09,148
but with a pitchfork.

1153
00:54:09,172 --> 00:54:11,492
It's bright lights,
nowhere to hide,

1154
00:54:11,516 --> 00:54:13,585
just in your face kills.

1155
00:54:17,068 --> 00:54:19,527
I was just following
what they needed to happen

1156
00:54:19,550 --> 00:54:20,802
in the film.

1157
00:54:20,827 --> 00:54:24,699
I wasn't concerned with
how they were shooting.

1158
00:54:24,724 --> 00:54:26,871
Joe Zito, we showed everything.

1159
00:54:26,896 --> 00:54:29,206
So there became an
appeal for that.

1160
00:54:30,481 --> 00:54:34,447
I rode that appeal in
the movies of the 80s.

1161
00:54:37,516 --> 00:54:39,251
For me, it's the guy with
the hand over the mouth

1162
00:54:39,275 --> 00:54:41,172
and he's getting the
bayonet in the head.

1163
00:54:43,344 --> 00:54:45,596
The way it's edited,
and the way it's timed,

1164
00:54:45,619 --> 00:54:46,976
and it's just
whites of the eyes.

1165
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,896
It's grizzly, and it
really, really works.

1166
00:54:52,655 --> 00:54:54,217
It's a magic trick, which
Savini's always said

1167
00:54:54,240 --> 00:54:55,458
his effects are magic tricks,

1168
00:54:55,481 --> 00:54:58,309
but that one is like, bang on.

1169
00:55:13,344 --> 00:55:16,148
Indonesia produced
an interesting horror
film in the 80s

1170
00:55:16,172 --> 00:55:18,423
called "Mystics in Bali".

1171
00:55:18,447 --> 00:55:21,561
I'm surprised that
a pretty girl like you

1172
00:55:21,585 --> 00:55:23,733
would be interested in
learning black magic.

1173
00:55:23,757 --> 00:55:25,251
Well, I'm just curious.

1174
00:55:25,275 --> 00:55:27,112
It seems like a
bit of a fever dream,

1175
00:55:27,137 --> 00:55:28,355
what happens in this film.

1176
00:55:28,378 --> 00:55:31,079
But essentially,
it's about a woman

1177
00:55:31,103 --> 00:55:34,423
who wants to learn more
about the mystical stuff

1178
00:55:34,447 --> 00:55:35,976
that happens in
Indonesian culture.

1179
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,275
You'll never forget this face.

1180
00:55:42,309 --> 00:55:44,286
And they're looking
around for this mystic,

1181
00:55:44,309 --> 00:55:47,458
and what they see instead
is a 50 foot tongue

1182
00:55:47,481 --> 00:55:49,871
coming out of the forest,
which is incredible.

1183
00:55:49,896 --> 00:55:51,423
It's like a snake-like tongue.

1184
00:55:51,447 --> 00:55:54,630
And what happens is this
tongue imprints words,

1185
00:55:54,655 --> 00:55:56,458
the name of the
creatures, on her thigh,

1186
00:55:56,481 --> 00:55:57,907
and then things go
from bad to worse

1187
00:55:57,931 --> 00:56:00,112
from that point, where
this woman manifests

1188
00:56:00,137 --> 00:56:03,896
into this creature, but
it's absolutely batshit.

1189
00:56:06,724 --> 00:56:09,043
I'm very interested in the
mythology of this creature,

1190
00:56:09,068 --> 00:56:10,699
which is very much
like a manananggal,

1191
00:56:10,724 --> 00:56:14,976
because you see that across
all different Asian cultures.

1192
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,355
So she has the ability to
split her body in half,

1193
00:56:18,378 --> 00:56:20,389
and the top half of her torso,

1194
00:56:20,413 --> 00:56:22,699
with all the entrails
hanging out, can fly around,

1195
00:56:22,724 --> 00:56:25,286
and jump on people and
kill them and eat them

1196
00:56:25,309 --> 00:56:28,148
while the bottom half kind
of scuttles around the floor.

1197
00:56:28,172 --> 00:56:30,664
One of the most
interesting scenes in this,

1198
00:56:30,688 --> 00:56:34,733
and kind of gross, is when
this disembodied torso

1199
00:56:34,757 --> 00:56:37,664
goes between the legs
of a pregnant woman,

1200
00:56:37,688 --> 00:56:39,181
and then basically
eats her unborn baby.

1201
00:56:39,206 --> 00:56:41,103
It is nuts.

1202
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,699
Then it goes up a
level of nuttiness,

1203
00:56:47,724 --> 00:56:49,768
they call up the good
version of this mystic,

1204
00:56:49,793 --> 00:56:54,492
and they have this big battle
using magic and animation,

1205
00:56:54,516 --> 00:56:56,516
and it's very interesting.

1206
00:57:00,827 --> 00:57:03,112
The ultimate theme
of "Mystics in Bali"

1207
00:57:03,137 --> 00:57:04,802
really is curiosity
kills the cat,

1208
00:57:04,827 --> 00:57:07,043
because this woman wants
to know information

1209
00:57:07,068 --> 00:57:09,389
that she has no right knowing.

1210
00:57:09,413 --> 00:57:12,976
This supernatural stuff
is way too powerful

1211
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,217
for a normal person, and I
don't know why she thought

1212
00:57:15,240 --> 00:57:18,079
that she could control
it, and harness it.

1213
00:57:18,103 --> 00:57:19,976
That particular
transgression ends up

1214
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,079
in the consequences
that befalls them

1215
00:57:22,103 --> 00:57:23,757
and everyone around them.

1216
00:57:36,275 --> 00:57:37,630
Now police have been skeptical

1217
00:57:37,655 --> 00:57:39,389
of investigating these acts,

1218
00:57:39,413 --> 00:57:41,389
just as we are in
reporting them,

1219
00:57:41,413 --> 00:57:42,389
but there's no
question that something

1220
00:57:42,414 --> 00:57:44,112
is going on out there.

1221
00:57:44,137 --> 00:57:45,940
When we think about the 1980s,

1222
00:57:45,965 --> 00:57:47,976
we think about the Reagan era,

1223
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:49,664
and a return to family values,

1224
00:57:49,688 --> 00:57:51,527
and there is
something in the air

1225
00:57:51,550 --> 00:57:53,389
about the way that
things should be.

1226
00:57:53,413 --> 00:57:56,010
There is sin and
evil in the world,

1227
00:57:56,034 --> 00:57:58,561
and we're enjoined by
scripture, and the lord Jesus

1228
00:57:58,585 --> 00:58:00,492
to oppose it with all our might.

1229
00:58:00,516 --> 00:58:03,802
Religious right somehow had
moved into the mainstream.

1230
00:58:03,827 --> 00:58:06,355
Demand those parties
and politicians

1231
00:58:06,378 --> 00:58:09,664
align themselves with the
eternal values in this book,

1232
00:58:09,688 --> 00:58:11,838
and America will be forever

1233
00:58:11,862 --> 00:58:13,827
the greatest nation
on this earth!

1234
00:58:15,034 --> 00:58:16,768
There was a lot of
stuff in the ether

1235
00:58:16,793 --> 00:58:20,699
as far as satanic cults
and the evangelicals.

1236
00:58:20,724 --> 00:58:23,561
Whether Satan exists
is a matter of belief,

1237
00:58:23,585 --> 00:58:25,561
but we are certain
that Satanism exists.

1238
00:58:25,585 --> 00:58:29,148
Their fears were sort
of in the zeitgeist.

1239
00:58:29,172 --> 00:58:30,344
Could it be?

1240
00:58:31,309 --> 00:58:33,481
Satan!

1241
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,561
Growing up in the 80s under
the veil of the satanic panic,

1242
00:58:37,585 --> 00:58:39,802
you know, we were all
convinced by the far right

1243
00:58:39,827 --> 00:58:43,010
that there were these
cultists out there,

1244
00:58:43,034 --> 00:58:46,976
meddling with the dark arts
to try and abduct us kids

1245
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,871
and suck us into their
covens to drink babies' blood

1246
00:58:50,896 --> 00:58:53,172
and perform witchcraft.

1247
00:58:54,757 --> 00:58:57,043
We were like, no, they're
just cool scary movies.

1248
00:58:57,068 --> 00:58:58,561
I'll do that when I grow up

1249
00:58:58,585 --> 00:59:00,699
and I have a house of my
own, thank you very much.

1250
00:59:00,724 --> 00:59:02,699
I dread going to
these kinds of movies.

1251
00:59:02,724 --> 00:59:05,181
It really has become
the most depressing part

1252
00:59:05,206 --> 00:59:06,561
of my job as a film critic.

1253
00:59:06,585 --> 00:59:08,733
And there we are,
in total agreement.

1254
00:59:08,757 --> 00:59:10,079
In the UK and here in the US,

1255
00:59:10,103 --> 00:59:12,181
the census definitely
clamped down

1256
00:59:12,206 --> 00:59:14,733
on what was allowed, what
was acceptable content.

1257
00:59:14,757 --> 00:59:16,079
Half of American households

1258
00:59:16,103 --> 00:59:18,320
now have video
cassette recorders,

1259
00:59:18,344 --> 00:59:20,389
and for many children,
they're a ticket

1260
00:59:20,413 --> 00:59:22,802
to R-rated gore that
the kids are too young

1261
00:59:22,827 --> 00:59:24,251
to see at the movies.

1262
00:59:24,275 --> 00:59:26,699
There were a lot of
city people running around

1263
00:59:26,724 --> 00:59:29,527
saying oh, we can't
have this stuff.

1264
00:59:29,550 --> 00:59:30,871
It's much too violent.

1265
00:59:30,896 --> 00:59:32,768
Well parents and psychologists
are very concerned.

1266
00:59:32,793 --> 00:59:35,664
I have very vivid memories
of the Video Nasty Panic.

1267
00:59:35,688 --> 00:59:39,043
I was probably nine
or 10 years old

1268
00:59:39,068 --> 00:59:41,389
when it started to hit the news

1269
00:59:41,413 --> 00:59:45,112
that this filth was
entering our homes,

1270
00:59:45,137 --> 00:59:49,181
and a lot of moral
do-gooders and church people

1271
00:59:49,206 --> 00:59:52,802
and politicians started to
talk about these movies,

1272
00:59:52,827 --> 00:59:56,699
saying that they were
dangerous for society,

1273
00:59:56,724 --> 00:59:59,043
because anyone seeing
them, it could cause them

1274
00:59:59,068 --> 01:00:02,630
to be scarred, and to go out
and inflict harm on society.

1275
01:00:02,655 --> 01:00:05,527
Even today, if one is
inclined to believe in Satanism,

1276
01:00:05,550 --> 01:00:08,251
it's a way to actually
see the devil,

1277
01:00:08,275 --> 01:00:09,492
and perhaps be inspired.

1278
01:00:09,516 --> 01:00:11,251
I think people
were really afraid

1279
01:00:11,275 --> 01:00:12,838
because they were told to be.

1280
01:00:12,862 --> 01:00:15,768
That was the beginning
off the cult of fear

1281
01:00:15,793 --> 01:00:16,735
in this country.

1282
01:00:16,759 --> 01:00:18,344
I don't believe in censorship.

1283
01:00:19,550 --> 01:00:22,940
But I do believe that
we parents and leaders

1284
01:00:22,965 --> 01:00:24,664
have a reason to be concerned.

1285
01:00:24,688 --> 01:00:28,976
It was such a simple
use of religious moralism

1286
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,413
that they cracked
down on us in the 80s,

1287
01:00:33,619 --> 01:00:38,112
and in doing so,
really resurrected

1288
01:00:38,137 --> 01:00:42,010
a lot of these archaic ideas
about religious fundamentalism

1289
01:00:42,034 --> 01:00:44,976
that are so easy to
use when you're trying

1290
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,010
to manipulate large
masses of people.

1291
01:00:48,034 --> 01:00:51,148
Sure, television should
present life the way it is.

1292
01:00:51,172 --> 01:00:55,286
You can't tell somebody
else they can't like it,

1293
01:00:55,309 --> 01:00:56,907
because you don't like it.

1294
01:00:56,931 --> 01:00:59,630
That kind of psychology
is so unhealthy.

1295
01:00:59,655 --> 01:01:03,286
We needed the movies
of 80s horror cinema

1296
01:01:03,309 --> 01:01:07,871
to release a little
of that pent up steam.

1297
01:01:07,896 --> 01:01:09,527
And finally, music.

1298
01:01:09,550 --> 01:01:12,112
Which is found here in the
neighborhood record store

1299
01:01:12,137 --> 01:01:14,768
under the category
of heavy metal music.

1300
01:01:14,793 --> 01:01:17,976
There's a link between
heavy metal and horror.

1301
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,112
They're like some
strange cousins.

1302
01:01:19,137 --> 01:01:20,458
They always have been.

1303
01:01:20,481 --> 01:01:23,871
♪ We're the dream warriors

1304
01:01:23,896 --> 01:01:25,664
In the "Nightmare
on Elm Street" films,

1305
01:01:25,688 --> 01:01:28,240
the Dokken soundtrack
is a classic.

1306
01:01:29,103 --> 01:01:31,112
The satanic message is clear,

1307
01:01:31,137 --> 01:01:33,492
both in the album covers,
and in the lyrics,

1308
01:01:33,516 --> 01:01:36,664
which are reaching
impressionable young minds.

1309
01:01:36,688 --> 01:01:38,148
It's question of
content and values,

1310
01:01:38,172 --> 01:01:41,355
and parents need to tune in
to their children's world.

1311
01:01:41,378 --> 01:01:44,251
Anytime there's any kind
of a new wave of music,

1312
01:01:44,275 --> 01:01:47,112
there's always somebody who's
gonna have a problem with it.

1313
01:01:47,137 --> 01:01:49,976
And the fact that
you had Ozzy Osborne

1314
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,492
supposedly biting off the heads
of bats onstage and stuff,

1315
01:01:53,516 --> 01:01:56,664
that certainly threw people
for a loop.

1316
01:01:56,688 --> 01:01:58,181
This is entertainment?

1317
01:01:58,206 --> 01:02:00,699
This is what our kids are
looking at for entertainment?

1318
01:02:00,724 --> 01:02:01,940
Yes.

1319
01:02:01,965 --> 01:02:03,492
So in the height
of satanic panic

1320
01:02:03,516 --> 01:02:06,389
as the most metal and
punk rock thing to do

1321
01:02:06,413 --> 01:02:08,699
from the film community,
is they did films

1322
01:02:08,724 --> 01:02:11,355
about rock and roll and Satan.

1323
01:02:11,378 --> 01:02:14,630
The times that
we were living in,

1324
01:02:14,655 --> 01:02:18,492
it was a perfect tapestry
for us to utilize

1325
01:02:18,516 --> 01:02:23,181
what was going on in the
world as far as politics

1326
01:02:23,206 --> 01:02:24,838
and us making movies.

1327
01:02:24,862 --> 01:02:26,976
♪ Get down tonight

1328
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:28,768
I was in school in the 80s,

1329
01:02:28,793 --> 01:02:32,251
and there was a concern
among the whole caucus

1330
01:02:32,275 --> 01:02:35,492
of evangelicals that
Dungeons and Dragons

1331
01:02:35,516 --> 01:02:37,768
was a satanic sort of thing.

1332
01:02:37,793 --> 01:02:41,137
A lot of people hear
the phrase my sweet Satan.

1333
01:02:44,275 --> 01:02:46,768
♪ My sweet Satan

1334
01:02:46,793 --> 01:02:48,148
My sweet Satan.

1335
01:02:48,172 --> 01:02:49,389
The lyrics playing
backwards and all that stuff.

1336
01:02:49,413 --> 01:02:51,907
It was kind of a hysteria,

1337
01:02:51,931 --> 01:02:55,976
which doesn't feel all
that unfamiliar anymore.

1338
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,079
It tells you how
to close the gate.

1339
01:02:58,103 --> 01:03:01,112
Parents just didn't know
it was the record companies

1340
01:03:01,137 --> 01:03:05,286
that were telling them that
if you spin records backwards,

1341
01:03:05,309 --> 01:03:06,827
you'll hear Satan.

1342
01:03:10,447 --> 01:03:15,251
Literally one of the best
ideas for record companies

1343
01:03:15,275 --> 01:03:18,079
to come up with in
the history of music

1344
01:03:18,103 --> 01:03:20,527
was getting stupid
people to believe that.

1345
01:03:20,550 --> 01:03:23,103
But they did conjure
up Sammi Curr.

1346
01:03:25,793 --> 01:03:28,217
All a part of the plan.

1347
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:29,458
All right.

1348
01:03:29,481 --> 01:03:31,907
In the 80s, we had
a big controversy

1349
01:03:31,931 --> 01:03:35,181
with the lyrics, and
parents being very concerned

1350
01:03:35,206 --> 01:03:36,976
about what their kids
were listening to

1351
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,976
in heavy metal with
the pentagrams.

1352
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,492
There were Senate hearings,
and Congressional hearings,

1353
01:03:42,516 --> 01:03:44,527
that kind of thing,
and a lot of the wives

1354
01:03:44,550 --> 01:03:46,768
of the politicians
took up this cause

1355
01:03:46,793 --> 01:03:49,355
against heavy metal music.

1356
01:03:49,378 --> 01:03:51,423
♪ Rock and roll

1357
01:03:51,447 --> 01:03:52,907
♪ Rocking

1358
01:03:52,931 --> 01:03:55,458
"Trick or Treat", there's
a scene where Sammi Curr

1359
01:03:55,481 --> 01:03:59,458
is testifying against what's
supposed to be the PMRC.

1360
01:03:59,481 --> 01:04:01,148
If you were a parent,

1361
01:04:01,172 --> 01:04:04,079
would you want your kid
growing up around rock music?

1362
01:04:04,103 --> 01:04:05,320
Rock musicians?

1363
01:04:05,344 --> 01:04:06,561
I mean, with that
kind of values?

1364
01:04:06,585 --> 01:04:07,527
And he basically tells
him to go get fucked.

1365
01:04:07,552 --> 01:04:09,389
You cannot legislate morality.

1366
01:04:09,413 --> 01:04:11,596
- The teenage daughter-
- We will bring you down!

1367
01:04:11,619 --> 01:04:14,492
And that's the way
I was with my heroes.

1368
01:04:14,516 --> 01:04:17,320
That's the way my
fans are with me

1369
01:04:17,344 --> 01:04:18,976
when I'm telling
the establishment

1370
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:20,757
to go fuck themselves, you know?

1371
01:04:21,931 --> 01:04:24,733
There will always be
a need for a platform

1372
01:04:24,757 --> 01:04:27,931
to give people hope in
a sea of hopelessness.

1373
01:04:28,862 --> 01:04:31,838
I carried an M16 and you,

1374
01:04:31,862 --> 01:04:36,043
you carry that,
that, that guitar!

1375
01:04:36,068 --> 01:04:38,251
What they came up with
was a warning system

1376
01:04:38,275 --> 01:04:39,527
on the albums.

1377
01:04:39,550 --> 01:04:41,561
They wanted to rate
them, like rated R,

1378
01:04:41,585 --> 01:04:42,802
and things like that,
but they ended up

1379
01:04:42,827 --> 01:04:44,976
with just sort of
a warning label.

1380
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:46,492
But the album sold
better when they had

1381
01:04:46,516 --> 01:04:47,757
the warning label on them.

1382
01:04:52,827 --> 01:04:54,148
♪ We're not gonna take it

1383
01:04:54,172 --> 01:04:56,976
To me, horror and the
discovery of horror,

1384
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,907
you start finding these voices
outside of the mainstream,

1385
01:05:00,931 --> 01:05:05,217
who are willing to push
a lot of boundaries

1386
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,907
and question a lot
of the establishment,

1387
01:05:08,931 --> 01:05:12,355
and scaring the crack
out of all the PTA moms

1388
01:05:12,378 --> 01:05:15,561
and school superintendents
and Cub Scout leaders

1389
01:05:15,585 --> 01:05:17,458
that were trying to
make sure we all fit

1390
01:05:17,481 --> 01:05:19,871
right into the mold
that they wanted us to.

1391
01:05:19,896 --> 01:05:20,896
God!

1392
01:05:22,103 --> 01:05:23,217
God is dead!

1393
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:24,320
- Hail Satan!
- Satan lives!

1394
01:05:25,550 --> 01:05:27,838
It's an ever-perpetual cycle

1395
01:05:27,862 --> 01:05:31,802
that the entire human experience
centers itself around,

1396
01:05:31,827 --> 01:05:33,664
that events are out of control.

1397
01:05:33,688 --> 01:05:37,181
There has to be something
that can set it right.

1398
01:05:37,206 --> 01:05:40,596
And there are many people
who will seize on anything.

1399
01:05:40,619 --> 01:05:42,389
They want a solution.

1400
01:05:42,413 --> 01:05:43,940
They want deliverance.

1401
01:05:43,965 --> 01:05:45,423
We fall for everything.

1402
01:05:45,447 --> 01:05:50,148
I recall that being the most
ridiculous waste of time.

1403
01:05:50,172 --> 01:05:52,596
It's been heading in that
direction for a long time.

1404
01:05:52,619 --> 01:05:55,492
Now we're totally
divided as a country.

1405
01:05:55,516 --> 01:05:57,827
And it's crap like
that that does it.

1406
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,355
"Butcher,
Baker, Nightmare Maker".

1407
01:06:13,378 --> 01:06:14,630
Rated R.

1408
01:06:14,655 --> 01:06:16,907
Starts Friday at a
theater near you.

1409
01:06:16,931 --> 01:06:19,148
"Butcher, Baker,
Nightmare Maker".

1410
01:06:19,172 --> 01:06:21,181
I mean, that's an
incredible title.

1411
01:06:21,206 --> 01:06:23,550
That movie should
have done really well.

1412
01:06:25,378 --> 01:06:27,043
"Butcher, Baker,
Nightmare Maker"

1413
01:06:27,068 --> 01:06:29,896
is another of the Video Nasties.

1414
01:06:35,585 --> 01:06:37,976
So this is the cover
that I saw on the shelf

1415
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,458
when I saw it in around 1983.

1416
01:06:40,481 --> 01:06:43,976
And it is Susan Tyrrell
covered in blood.

1417
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,802
The kind of thing that
I would have rented.

1418
01:06:45,827 --> 01:06:47,940
I'm gonna get that
scholarship if I can!

1419
01:06:47,965 --> 01:06:50,217
I'm going away to school,
and no one's gonna stop me!

1420
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:51,699
Not even you!

1421
01:06:51,724 --> 01:06:53,976
"Butcher, Baker, Nightmare
Maker" is about a kid

1422
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:55,940
who wants to go off to
college, and an aunt

1423
01:06:55,965 --> 01:06:56,976
who doesn't want him to.

1424
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,596
And the murder that she goes to

1425
01:06:59,619 --> 01:07:00,862
to keep him there.

1426
01:07:03,550 --> 01:07:05,286
Everybody's so obsessed
with the sex life

1427
01:07:05,309 --> 01:07:06,940
of a 17-year-old.

1428
01:07:06,965 --> 01:07:08,217
I was thinking, um,

1429
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,320
can I invite Julia over
for my birthday dinner?

1430
01:07:11,344 --> 01:07:12,940
Julia again?

1431
01:07:12,965 --> 01:07:14,389
Sounds serious.

1432
01:07:14,413 --> 01:07:17,079
That's probably the most
real life part of this movie,

1433
01:07:17,103 --> 01:07:19,251
is everybody trying to
figure out if this kid's gay.

1434
01:07:19,275 --> 01:07:21,458
Do you like girls, Ms. Roberts?

1435
01:07:21,481 --> 01:07:22,699
God, you're a pig.

1436
01:07:22,724 --> 01:07:23,940
"Butcher, Baker,
Nightmare Maker"

1437
01:07:23,965 --> 01:07:27,148
is about people
trying to out you.

1438
01:07:27,172 --> 01:07:28,181
So tell me.

1439
01:07:28,206 --> 01:07:29,320
Are you two making love?

1440
01:07:29,344 --> 01:07:31,596
I am not going to answer that.

1441
01:07:31,619 --> 01:07:34,527
The kind of twisted
perversity of the movie

1442
01:07:34,550 --> 01:07:37,103
is like really
interesting, I think.

1443
01:07:38,309 --> 01:07:41,619
It's cheesy, but
it's also queasy.

1444
01:07:43,034 --> 01:07:45,527
You're just kinda like,
is she trying to fuck him?

1445
01:07:45,550 --> 01:07:47,286
This is making me uncomfortable.

1446
01:07:47,309 --> 01:07:48,309
Ooh.

1447
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:51,423
You're so cute.

1448
01:07:51,447 --> 01:07:53,112
It dealt with incest.

1449
01:07:53,137 --> 01:07:56,251
It dealt with
repressed sexuality.

1450
01:07:56,275 --> 01:07:58,079
Homicidal tendencies.

1451
01:07:58,103 --> 01:08:00,630
I mean, this is like
Tennessee Williams pathos

1452
01:08:00,655 --> 01:08:03,112
that we're dealing with in
this really messed up film

1453
01:08:03,137 --> 01:08:04,423
where these people gave these

1454
01:08:04,447 --> 01:08:07,172
really disturbing performances.

1455
01:08:14,896 --> 01:08:16,940
Will Asher seemed like
an odd choice to me,

1456
01:08:16,965 --> 01:08:20,043
having come from being
creator of Bewitched,

1457
01:08:20,068 --> 01:08:22,595
and having directed I Love Lucy,

1458
01:08:22,619 --> 01:08:24,734
but he had a way with actors,

1459
01:08:24,757 --> 01:08:27,561
and he really brought in
some great performances

1460
01:08:27,586 --> 01:08:28,586
in that film.

1461
01:08:29,827 --> 01:08:31,619
♪ Billy's got a
girlfriend, Billy ♪

1462
01:08:32,448 --> 01:08:33,251
Billy, don't do that.

1463
01:08:33,274 --> 01:08:34,181
That's disgusting.

1464
01:08:34,206 --> 01:08:35,149
It's kind of a tour de force

1465
01:08:35,172 --> 01:08:36,975
mad over the top performance

1466
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:38,148
by Susan Tyrrell.

1467
01:08:38,171 --> 01:08:39,078
The only thing that's wrong

1468
01:08:39,103 --> 01:08:39,976
is that you are in my house.

1469
01:08:40,001 --> 01:08:41,907
Now get out of here!

1470
01:08:41,930 --> 01:08:42,872
Get out!

1471
01:08:42,895 --> 01:08:43,699
I just-

1472
01:08:43,724 --> 01:08:44,528
Get out of here!

1473
01:08:44,551 --> 01:08:46,216
I just want-

1474
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:47,769
Where is her Oscar
for "Butcher, Baker,
Nightmare Maker"?

1475
01:08:47,792 --> 01:08:49,586
Retroactively give it to her.

1476
01:08:53,481 --> 01:08:54,872
What do you think you're doing?

1477
01:08:54,895 --> 01:08:56,975
This performance is
like the performance

1478
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:58,940
of the 1980s.

1479
01:08:58,965 --> 01:09:00,412
A new girlfriend.

1480
01:09:02,412 --> 01:09:05,527
Susan Tyrrell is just
getting more and more crazy

1481
01:09:05,551 --> 01:09:06,940
as the movie goes on.

1482
01:09:06,965 --> 01:09:08,595
Just a pleasure to watch.

1483
01:09:08,619 --> 01:09:10,631
It also has Bill Paxton
in it, by the way,

1484
01:09:10,654 --> 01:09:12,975
who's kind of playing
a bully character,

1485
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:14,527
very similar to the
character he plays

1486
01:09:14,551 --> 01:09:16,078
in "Weird Science".

1487
01:09:16,103 --> 01:09:17,664
He was supposed to be
the lead originally

1488
01:09:17,689 --> 01:09:19,113
but they ended up
going with someone

1489
01:09:19,136 --> 01:09:20,734
who was then more famous.

1490
01:09:20,757 --> 01:09:22,664
Some of us think we're
better than others.

1491
01:09:22,689 --> 01:09:24,493
Some of us are
better than others.

1492
01:09:24,516 --> 01:09:28,286
Paxton was so gung ho at
the beginning of his career

1493
01:09:28,310 --> 01:09:31,286
that he would come
to the cutting room.

1494
01:09:31,310 --> 01:09:34,181
He was the guy who
really wanted to learn

1495
01:09:34,206 --> 01:09:36,527
about the whole
movie making process,

1496
01:09:36,551 --> 01:09:38,389
and he went on to have
such a great career,

1497
01:09:38,412 --> 01:09:41,319
and was gone way too soon.

1498
01:09:41,344 --> 01:09:45,769
I believe that
you and Phil Brody

1499
01:09:45,792 --> 01:09:48,043
were having a lovers quarrel.

1500
01:09:48,068 --> 01:09:50,734
It has these queer themes,
it plays on gay panic,

1501
01:09:50,757 --> 01:09:52,631
but in 1983 when
it's re-released

1502
01:09:52,654 --> 01:09:55,561
as Night Warning, it's
released into a world

1503
01:09:55,586 --> 01:09:58,423
that sees gay characters
a little bit differently.

1504
01:09:58,448 --> 01:10:01,493
Keep it limp like

1505
01:10:01,516 --> 01:10:03,181
AIDS, by 1983,

1506
01:10:03,206 --> 01:10:06,595
it was referred to as Gay
Plague, and Gay Cancer.

1507
01:10:06,619 --> 01:10:08,423
And that's what people
were afraid of at the time.

1508
01:10:08,448 --> 01:10:10,423
Do you know that homosexuals

1509
01:10:10,448 --> 01:10:12,457
are very, very sick?

1510
01:10:12,481 --> 01:10:13,837
Do you know that, Billy?

1511
01:10:13,862 --> 01:10:15,527
Coach Flanders is not sick!

1512
01:10:15,551 --> 01:10:16,975
I don't know if I'll
ever watch it again

1513
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,493
for the rest of my life,
but I'm glad I saw it

1514
01:10:19,516 --> 01:10:20,551
when I was a kid.

1515
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:23,802
Probably made me into the
weirdo that I am today.

1516
01:10:23,827 --> 01:10:24,827
I don't know.

1517
01:10:32,206 --> 01:10:33,493
"Parasite".

1518
01:10:33,516 --> 01:10:36,561
The first futuristic
monster movie in 3D.

1519
01:10:36,586 --> 01:10:41,551
"Parasite 3D" was
a Charlie Band movie.

1520
01:10:49,586 --> 01:10:52,457
And Stan Winston created
the Parasite effects for us.

1521
01:10:52,481 --> 01:10:53,551
Low budget.

1522
01:10:59,551 --> 01:11:00,769
We gotta do something.

1523
01:11:00,792 --> 01:11:03,481
Notable for Demi Moore
making her film debut.

1524
01:11:04,310 --> 01:11:05,412
Tell me where it is!

1525
01:11:06,448 --> 01:11:08,493
Go to hell!

1526
01:11:08,516 --> 01:11:13,457
It was set in a
post nuclear world,

1527
01:11:13,481 --> 01:11:18,181
and there's this character
who develops this parasite.

1528
01:11:18,206 --> 01:11:21,837
When it reproduces,
it will cast millions

1529
01:11:21,862 --> 01:11:24,734
of microscopic
spores into the air.

1530
01:11:24,757 --> 01:11:26,734
It grows over the
course of the film,

1531
01:11:26,757 --> 01:11:28,216
and it gets into people,

1532
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,699
and absorbs them from within,

1533
01:11:30,724 --> 01:11:32,319
and eventually it
turns into this

1534
01:11:32,344 --> 01:11:34,412
big toothy creature.

1535
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,975
Stan Winston, Stan
did my very first movie

1536
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,043
in the early 70s called
"Mansion of the Doom",

1537
01:11:45,068 --> 01:11:46,907
and later on did "Parasite".

1538
01:11:46,930 --> 01:11:48,664
And Stan became
super successful,

1539
01:11:48,689 --> 01:11:50,975
and I couldn't afford him,
even though we stayed close

1540
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:54,068
til almost the end of his
life, which was way too soon.

1541
01:11:55,619 --> 01:11:58,354
"Parasite" was one of the
first 3D movies in 20 years.

1542
01:11:58,378 --> 01:12:01,664
It did really well,
relative to a small movie.

1543
01:12:01,689 --> 01:12:04,286
I was hooked with
the gimmickry of 3D.

1544
01:12:04,310 --> 01:12:05,975
Why was that cool for a while?

1545
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:07,699
Well, 'cause it was
another dimension,

1546
01:12:07,724 --> 01:12:09,493
and it was something you
couldn't really see at home.

1547
01:12:09,516 --> 01:12:12,078
Unless there's trickery or
stuff that comes at you,

1548
01:12:12,103 --> 01:12:14,664
and you're having fun
with the three dimensions,

1549
01:12:14,689 --> 01:12:16,033
to me it's not worth it.

1550
01:12:19,171 --> 01:12:21,595
I remember it being
pretty schlocky,

1551
01:12:21,619 --> 01:12:23,872
but the parasite effects
were pretty cool,

1552
01:12:23,895 --> 01:12:25,757
and the 3D was pretty cool.

1553
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:36,286
In terms of pantheon of
Stan Winston projects,

1554
01:12:36,310 --> 01:12:40,689
it's not the one he's
most proud of.

1555
01:12:47,619 --> 01:12:49,078
"Madman".

1556
01:12:49,103 --> 01:12:50,412
There is no escape.

1557
01:12:53,895 --> 01:12:56,181
I really love "Madman".

1558
01:12:56,206 --> 01:12:58,837
He was a farmer
with this family,

1559
01:12:58,862 --> 01:13:00,423
wife and two children.

1560
01:13:00,448 --> 01:13:02,078
He was an evil man.

1561
01:13:02,103 --> 01:13:04,872
I have a "Madman"
poster on my wall.

1562
01:13:04,895 --> 01:13:06,493
He walked into his bedroom

1563
01:13:06,516 --> 01:13:10,457
with an ax in his hand and
chopped his sleeping wife.

1564
01:13:10,481 --> 01:13:12,251
It was kind of a
"Sleepaway Camp" movie,

1565
01:13:12,274 --> 01:13:15,078
that I think fell under
the radar a little bit.

1566
01:13:15,103 --> 01:13:18,043
His name is Mars.

1567
01:13:18,068 --> 01:13:19,068
Madman Mars.

1568
01:13:21,136 --> 01:13:23,664
Oh no, Madman Mars
is coming upon us

1569
01:13:23,689 --> 01:13:25,940
at the campsite, but
it was just like,

1570
01:13:25,965 --> 01:13:28,872
you loved it for the
feel, the energy,

1571
01:13:28,895 --> 01:13:30,319
the New York vibe.

1572
01:13:30,344 --> 01:13:31,252
You know, Betsy.

1573
01:13:31,275 --> 01:13:33,286
I don't have many women friends,

1574
01:13:33,310 --> 01:13:35,561
and I think you're one of them.

1575
01:13:35,586 --> 01:13:36,802
Oh, I am.

1576
01:13:36,827 --> 01:13:38,423
Hey, give me your
number in the city.

1577
01:13:38,448 --> 01:13:40,423
It's like, they're in the woods!

1578
01:13:40,448 --> 01:13:41,802
They're gonna get killed!

1579
01:13:41,827 --> 01:13:44,423
You just love that
the Madman was coming,

1580
01:13:44,448 --> 01:13:47,000
and you didn't know
who he was gonna kill.

1581
01:13:51,757 --> 01:13:53,837
We used to watch
it all the time.

1582
01:13:53,862 --> 01:13:55,319
My friends would laugh.

1583
01:13:55,344 --> 01:13:57,010
Most of them were
giggling, like ooh!

1584
01:13:57,033 --> 01:13:57,838
You know.

1585
01:13:57,863 --> 01:13:59,274
I couldn't even eat.

1586
01:14:00,206 --> 01:14:01,664
And the blood, and the effects.

1587
01:14:01,689 --> 01:14:04,827
It just all looked so
real to me, and scared me.

1588
01:14:08,965 --> 01:14:13,010
"Madman" always looked like
a big furry suit to me.

1589
01:14:13,033 --> 01:14:16,319
He was in a shadow, but
he looked kind of furry.

1590
01:14:16,344 --> 01:14:18,206
And I was like oh,
he's kinda cute.

1591
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:23,561
I'm friends with Gary Sales.

1592
01:14:23,586 --> 01:14:26,078
He was really taken by surprise

1593
01:14:26,103 --> 01:14:27,654
with the success of the film.

1594
01:14:29,033 --> 01:14:30,011
With a lot of the 80s films,

1595
01:14:30,034 --> 01:14:33,286
there were no real boundaries.

1596
01:14:33,310 --> 01:14:36,378
They were just done, like
let's push the envelope.

1597
01:14:40,827 --> 01:14:43,975
Let's have fun, not to
intentionally hurt anyone,

1598
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,078
but just because
we're batshit crazy,

1599
01:14:46,103 --> 01:14:47,595
and we're making a horror movie,

1600
01:14:47,619 --> 01:14:50,113
and I think movies like
"Madman" just went for it.

1601
01:14:50,136 --> 01:14:52,113
They were like,
let's just kind of,

1602
01:14:52,136 --> 01:14:53,595
you know, get a monster.

1603
01:14:53,619 --> 01:14:55,802
Have him running around
killing people, and woo-hoo!

1604
01:14:55,827 --> 01:15:00,000
And it's just simple,
but so fantastic.

1605
01:15:01,412 --> 01:15:04,206
It's like silly and
great, all tied into one.

1606
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:17,595
Fans of gothic horror

1607
01:15:17,619 --> 01:15:19,792
will not be disappointed.

1608
01:15:22,827 --> 01:15:25,837
Jackie Karen inherits
this rural estate,

1609
01:15:25,862 --> 01:15:27,389
and on the rural estate
is a retirement home

1610
01:15:27,412 --> 01:15:29,699
full of elderly patients,

1611
01:15:29,724 --> 01:15:31,930
and there are mysterious
deaths happening.

1612
01:15:34,412 --> 01:15:35,907
Bit of a murder
mystery, because someone

1613
01:15:35,930 --> 01:15:36,804
is committing these crimes,

1614
01:15:36,828 --> 01:15:38,010
and you're not sure who

1615
01:15:38,033 --> 01:15:40,103
among these cast of
characters it is.

1616
01:15:42,206 --> 01:15:43,389
Are there ghosts?

1617
01:15:43,412 --> 01:15:45,354
Are there supernatural
elements at play?

1618
01:15:45,378 --> 01:15:48,757
Because it feels like
you're in this dream.

1619
01:15:53,378 --> 01:15:56,274
It's kind of that moment
between asleep and awake.

1620
01:16:00,481 --> 01:16:03,206
Jackie discovers her mother's
childhood diary in the film.

1621
01:16:04,344 --> 01:16:07,010
Lights going on and off,

1622
01:16:07,033 --> 01:16:08,561
taps left running.

1623
01:16:08,586 --> 01:16:10,699
It comes to pass that
the things in the diary

1624
01:16:10,724 --> 01:16:13,078
start to happen to her
within the plot of the film,

1625
01:16:13,103 --> 01:16:15,113
which is all leading
up to this revelation

1626
01:16:15,136 --> 01:16:17,664
that her late aunt
might not be as late

1627
01:16:17,689 --> 01:16:19,769
as she was led to believe.

1628
01:16:19,792 --> 01:16:21,354
What's that?

1629
01:16:21,378 --> 01:16:22,448
Didn't die.

1630
01:16:23,516 --> 01:16:25,493
There are some
horrific images in this.

1631
01:16:25,516 --> 01:16:28,000
It's a man drowned
in the bathtub.

1632
01:16:31,757 --> 01:16:33,664
And he's just like bloated.

1633
01:16:33,689 --> 01:16:35,734
It's tragic, but
it's also very scary.

1634
01:16:35,757 --> 01:16:38,000
Something that just like
sticks in your mind.

1635
01:16:42,827 --> 01:16:44,181
"Next of Kin" was
written and directed

1636
01:16:44,206 --> 01:16:46,113
by Tony Williams.

1637
01:16:46,136 --> 01:16:49,113
In this film, you can
see a lot of horror DNA.

1638
01:16:49,136 --> 01:16:50,216
You can see some Clouzot,

1639
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:51,457
you see "Les
Diabolique" in there.

1640
01:16:51,481 --> 01:16:53,664
You can see some Fulci in there.

1641
01:16:53,689 --> 01:16:56,113
Any time somebody gets
it in the eyeballs.

1642
01:16:56,136 --> 01:16:57,689
Linda!

1643
01:17:01,619 --> 01:17:02,837
Oh, it's rest home horror,

1644
01:17:02,862 --> 01:17:04,664
which is very cool,
but it's very gothic,

1645
01:17:04,689 --> 01:17:07,010
and it's what we might call
today slow burn horror.

1646
01:17:07,033 --> 01:17:12,000
It's got that nice Australian
unhinged energy to it.

1647
01:17:18,619 --> 01:17:19,769
Australian horror from the 80s

1648
01:17:19,792 --> 01:17:20,975
doesn't get a lot of love,

1649
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,769
but when there's a
nice example of it,

1650
01:17:23,792 --> 01:17:25,965
like "Next of Kin",
it's fun to revisit.

1651
01:17:38,448 --> 01:17:40,527
"Amityville Horror",
big boogeyman story

1652
01:17:40,551 --> 01:17:42,010
on the east coast in the 70s.

1653
01:17:42,033 --> 01:17:46,181
True crime, kid shotguns his
parents, and his siblings,

1654
01:17:46,206 --> 01:17:49,010
and he claims demonic
possession was part of it.

1655
01:17:49,033 --> 01:17:51,286
It gets turned into a book.

1656
01:17:51,310 --> 01:17:52,769
It eventually gets
made into a movie

1657
01:17:52,792 --> 01:17:54,423
with James Brolin
and Margot Kidder.

1658
01:17:54,448 --> 01:17:57,940
To this day you see those
windows, "Amityville Horror".

1659
01:17:57,965 --> 01:17:59,493
Three years later,
they're making

1660
01:17:59,516 --> 01:18:01,251
"Amityville 2: The Possession",

1661
01:18:01,274 --> 01:18:05,043
which is essentially
the true story

1662
01:18:05,068 --> 01:18:07,344
of the kid killing his family.

1663
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,319
- "Amityville -The Possession".

1664
01:18:13,344 --> 01:18:15,216
"Amityville: The Possession".

1665
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:17,423
It has to do with possession,

1666
01:18:17,448 --> 01:18:19,274
but mainly it's about incest.

1667
01:18:20,378 --> 01:18:21,827
Take off your nightgown.

1668
01:18:22,862 --> 01:18:24,319
What?

1669
01:18:24,344 --> 01:18:26,769
This prequel is loosely
based on the DeFeo murders,

1670
01:18:26,792 --> 01:18:28,792
but the names have been changed.

1671
01:18:29,930 --> 01:18:31,078
Everything seems quite idyllic.

1672
01:18:31,103 --> 01:18:32,527
It's a nice little
lovely family,

1673
01:18:32,551 --> 01:18:33,664
until it's not.

1674
01:18:33,689 --> 01:18:35,113
The dad's a fucking asshole.

1675
01:18:35,136 --> 01:18:37,802
He's abusive to
everybody in the family.

1676
01:18:37,827 --> 01:18:39,078
- Think you're funny?
- What are you doing?

1677
01:18:39,103 --> 01:18:40,216
Huh?

1678
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:41,734
You can't hit him-

1679
01:18:41,757 --> 01:18:45,862
Burt Young is maybe the
scuzziest dad in horror.

1680
01:18:46,792 --> 01:18:48,654
Please, don't hit that child.

1681
01:18:50,136 --> 01:18:51,631
Listen, this isn't your
business, you hear that?

1682
01:18:51,654 --> 01:18:53,664
We've got a teenage son
and a teenage daughter.

1683
01:18:53,689 --> 01:18:57,181
They've got a real weird
dynamic right off the get-go,

1684
01:18:57,206 --> 01:18:59,699
and it's one of those things
where you're questioning,

1685
01:18:59,724 --> 01:19:01,148
is it supposed to be like that?

1686
01:19:01,171 --> 01:19:02,319
Maybe the actors
were just having

1687
01:19:02,344 --> 01:19:03,940
a little too much chemistry

1688
01:19:03,965 --> 01:19:05,310
for brother and sister.

1689
01:19:06,481 --> 01:19:08,423
Until the brother
gets possessed,

1690
01:19:08,448 --> 01:19:10,148
and then gets it
on with his sister,

1691
01:19:10,171 --> 01:19:12,181
who is not possessed,
so I don't really know

1692
01:19:12,206 --> 01:19:13,619
what her excuse was.

1693
01:19:15,448 --> 01:19:17,595
Playing the young
daughter is Diane Franklin

1694
01:19:17,619 --> 01:19:20,078
from "Last American
Virgin", "Better Off Dead",

1695
01:19:20,103 --> 01:19:22,734
real apple pie, America's
sweetheart type stuff.

1696
01:19:22,757 --> 01:19:25,181
And if you wanna watch her
have sex with her brother,

1697
01:19:25,206 --> 01:19:27,654
"Amityville II" is
the film for you.

1698
01:19:30,310 --> 01:19:31,769
This skin-crawling incest
that happens in the film

1699
01:19:31,792 --> 01:19:34,389
was actually cut down from
what was in the original cut,

1700
01:19:34,412 --> 01:19:36,078
and it was apparently
a lot more graphic.

1701
01:19:36,103 --> 01:19:37,595
"Amityville II: The Possession"

1702
01:19:37,619 --> 01:19:41,734
was directed by Italian
director, Damiano Damiani.

1703
01:19:41,757 --> 01:19:43,699
Written by Tommy Lee Wallace.

1704
01:19:43,724 --> 01:19:47,216
Best known for "Halloween
3: Season of the Witch".

1705
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:49,940
And he co-wrote this
with Dardano Sacchetti

1706
01:19:49,965 --> 01:19:53,000
who often worked
with Lucio Fulci.

1707
01:19:54,895 --> 01:19:57,975
This one actually does have
really wonderful effects.

1708
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,595
I mean, it's just
like 80s to the core.

1709
01:20:00,619 --> 01:20:02,113
Bladder effects,
like as the brother

1710
01:20:02,136 --> 01:20:04,837
is becoming more
and more possessed,

1711
01:20:04,862 --> 01:20:08,000
neck is just pulsing, or
his head will be pulsing.

1712
01:20:10,757 --> 01:20:14,251
My favorite moment in
"Amityville II: The Possession",

1713
01:20:14,274 --> 01:20:15,631
there's this part
where the camera

1714
01:20:15,654 --> 01:20:17,251
kind of goes overhead,
when he's like,

1715
01:20:17,274 --> 01:20:21,551
I guess the demon is
really going into his body.

1716
01:20:23,895 --> 01:20:26,286
"Amityville: The
Possession", and "Amityville"

1717
01:20:26,310 --> 01:20:30,940
the original first film are
two totally separate entities.

1718
01:20:30,965 --> 01:20:32,734
The tone is not the same.

1719
01:20:32,757 --> 01:20:35,699
The first one is just
straight up scary.

1720
01:20:35,724 --> 01:20:38,354
The second one has
kinds of all these weird

1721
01:20:38,378 --> 01:20:39,654
other tones in it.

1722
01:20:41,619 --> 01:20:43,010
You wanted it!

1723
01:20:43,033 --> 01:20:45,344
You feel very uncomfortable
for different reasons.

1724
01:20:46,274 --> 01:20:47,217
Look at them.

1725
01:20:47,242 --> 01:20:49,389
They're pathetic animals.

1726
01:20:49,412 --> 01:20:51,448
They'd be better off
if you killed them.

1727
01:20:52,654 --> 01:20:53,631
The second one is
just like fuck it,

1728
01:20:53,655 --> 01:20:54,872
let's go off the rails.

1729
01:20:54,895 --> 01:20:56,664
We're gonna loosely
use this title,

1730
01:20:56,689 --> 01:21:00,103
and then just go way off
into left field over here.

1731
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,389
And it's for that extra
bit of sickening material,

1732
01:21:06,412 --> 01:21:08,010
and there's lots of
it in this picture,

1733
01:21:08,033 --> 01:21:10,113
that's the reason that
"Amityville II: The Possession"

1734
01:21:10,136 --> 01:21:13,000
makes my list as one of the
worst films of the year.

1735
01:21:18,206 --> 01:21:21,551
That no one
would ever forget the girls

1736
01:21:23,654 --> 01:21:26,493
in "The House On Sorority Row".

1737
01:21:26,516 --> 01:21:31,319
That mystical world of the
sorority fraternity culture,

1738
01:21:31,344 --> 01:21:33,493
in the 80s, all films
were pointing us

1739
01:21:33,516 --> 01:21:34,734
towards that's
where you're going.

1740
01:21:34,757 --> 01:21:36,631
If it's not "Revenge
of the Nerds",

1741
01:21:36,654 --> 01:21:38,561
it's "The House
on Sorority Row".

1742
01:21:38,586 --> 01:21:39,458
I wanna thank you for helping me

1743
01:21:39,483 --> 01:21:41,654
become what I am today.

1744
01:21:42,586 --> 01:21:45,171
Wasted.

1745
01:21:46,481 --> 01:21:48,251
And then it's like,
what crazy debauchery

1746
01:21:48,274 --> 01:21:49,769
is gonna happen within the walls

1747
01:21:49,792 --> 01:21:51,148
of that sorority house?

1748
01:21:51,171 --> 01:21:52,802
And how will we be punished

1749
01:21:52,827 --> 01:21:55,103
for indulging in
that debauchery?

1750
01:21:59,654 --> 01:22:00,975
You filth!

1751
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,527
Evil house mother.

1752
01:22:03,551 --> 01:22:07,033
The house mother to
end all house mothers.

1753
01:22:07,965 --> 01:22:10,561
Is killed accidentally

1754
01:22:10,586 --> 01:22:13,423
by sorority girls,

1755
01:22:13,448 --> 01:22:16,344
and revenge ensues.

1756
01:22:20,930 --> 01:22:24,631
I got my start "House
on Sorority Row".

1757
01:22:24,654 --> 01:22:28,319
I'd just come out
of theater school.

1758
01:22:28,344 --> 01:22:30,595
I think we got paid $50 a day.

1759
01:22:30,619 --> 01:22:31,837
We worked really hard, you know.

1760
01:22:31,862 --> 01:22:34,274
We shot night for
night for weeks.

1761
01:22:35,895 --> 01:22:38,664
So we were like
zombies during the day.

1762
01:22:38,689 --> 01:22:40,769
The director, he
kept a firm hand

1763
01:22:40,792 --> 01:22:44,561
without ever being an
asshole, to be honest.

1764
01:22:44,586 --> 01:22:47,000
Which is saying a lot
for a first endeavor.

1765
01:22:51,206 --> 01:22:53,148
Everyone else is
wearing a cute frock,

1766
01:22:53,171 --> 01:22:55,837
and I'm wearing these
ugly beige pants

1767
01:22:55,862 --> 01:22:58,078
and this sweater, and
I had to run around

1768
01:22:58,103 --> 01:23:01,319
in that stupid outfit,
and put it on everyday.

1769
01:23:01,344 --> 01:23:04,113
And I did not feel
like I looked terrific.

1770
01:23:04,136 --> 01:23:05,136
She's alive.

1771
01:23:06,310 --> 01:23:07,975
We put her back in the pool,

1772
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:09,699
and she was still alive!

1773
01:23:09,724 --> 01:23:11,975
He also colored my hair brown,

1774
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:14,802
because of course, smart
good girls have brown hair.

1775
01:23:14,827 --> 01:23:18,664
Me being the good girl, the
one who stays in the house

1776
01:23:18,689 --> 01:23:21,010
while her friends are being
murdered left and right.

1777
01:23:21,033 --> 01:23:22,586
That always makes me giggle.

1778
01:23:28,103 --> 01:23:29,595
Would you not run away?

1779
01:23:29,619 --> 01:23:31,872
Are you gonna go roaming
around in this house

1780
01:23:31,895 --> 01:23:33,423
looking for clues?

1781
01:23:33,448 --> 01:23:37,000
But I was drugged, so I
do have that to defend me.

1782
01:23:38,103 --> 01:23:39,664
Just a mild sedative.

1783
01:23:39,689 --> 01:23:41,631
It definitely had a style

1784
01:23:41,654 --> 01:23:44,516
that a lot of low budget
films really don't have.

1785
01:23:50,654 --> 01:23:52,907
"The House on Sorority
Row" ended up being

1786
01:23:52,930 --> 01:23:54,734
one of those movies that became

1787
01:23:54,757 --> 01:23:56,586
a bit of a cult fan favorite.

1788
01:24:00,412 --> 01:24:03,561
As much as I like to say it's
all because it's great film,

1789
01:24:03,586 --> 01:24:05,940
I think some of it
is, you know, fun

1790
01:24:05,965 --> 01:24:08,043
in that it's a little
bit over the top,

1791
01:24:08,068 --> 01:24:11,344
and when you think that's part
of the appeal of the genre.

1792
01:24:14,412 --> 01:24:16,286
I never thought I'd
be talking about it.

1793
01:24:16,310 --> 01:24:17,664
You know, I'm 63.

1794
01:24:17,689 --> 01:24:21,148
I was 23.

1795
01:24:21,171 --> 01:24:24,113
Wow.

1796
01:24:24,136 --> 01:24:26,699
But I have no
regrets whatsoever.

1797
01:24:26,724 --> 01:24:28,000
It was fun.

1798
01:24:43,412 --> 01:24:46,251
As an actor watching films,

1799
01:24:46,274 --> 01:24:49,389
I certainly dial
into performances.

1800
01:24:49,412 --> 01:24:53,000
I sort of learned
my craft by doing.

1801
01:24:54,448 --> 01:24:55,872
I had taken dance lessons,

1802
01:24:55,895 --> 01:24:58,757
and so I started
out doing theater.

1803
01:25:01,310 --> 01:25:02,527
♪ Lady Godiva

1804
01:25:02,551 --> 01:25:05,527
The first television
project I did was Maude.

1805
01:25:05,551 --> 01:25:08,595
And it was a four camera sitcom

1806
01:25:08,619 --> 01:25:10,216
that we filmed like a play.

1807
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:12,216
So stop asking
who I was out with,

1808
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:13,319
what we had for dinner,

1809
01:25:13,344 --> 01:25:15,068
and did we go all the way.

1810
01:25:17,965 --> 01:25:21,975
And then my next
real film education

1811
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,493
came when I did
"Someone's Watching Me"

1812
01:25:24,516 --> 01:25:26,113
for John Carpenter.

1813
01:25:26,136 --> 01:25:29,975
I played, I believe,
the first lesbian woman

1814
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:31,216
in a television film.

1815
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:33,216
And he had written
a fantastic scene

1816
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:37,148
in which her
sexuality is revealed.

1817
01:25:37,171 --> 01:25:38,171
Who's he?

1818
01:25:40,171 --> 01:25:41,171
She.

1819
01:25:42,136 --> 01:25:43,769
And we did it, and
John came up to me

1820
01:25:43,792 --> 01:25:45,907
and he said that was
great, that was perfect.

1821
01:25:45,930 --> 01:25:47,043
Do less.

1822
01:25:47,068 --> 01:25:47,872
Don't worry.

1823
01:25:47,895 --> 01:25:48,895
You're not my type.

1824
01:25:49,757 --> 01:25:51,148
I'm not worried.

1825
01:25:51,171 --> 01:25:54,010
And it was the proverbial
light bulb going off.

1826
01:25:54,033 --> 01:25:56,148
Oh, because it's film,

1827
01:25:56,171 --> 01:25:58,078
because it's not theater.

1828
01:25:58,103 --> 01:25:59,493
Do less.

1829
01:25:59,516 --> 01:26:02,113
Now, especially something
like "Creepshow",

1830
01:26:02,136 --> 01:26:03,907
which was George Romero,

1831
01:26:03,930 --> 01:26:06,907
which was such an
outrageous character,

1832
01:26:06,930 --> 01:26:09,907
which was George saying
no, you can be bigger!

1833
01:26:09,930 --> 01:26:11,699
You can be bigger,
you can be bigger.

1834
01:26:11,724 --> 01:26:13,286
That was like, wait a
minute, wait a minute.

1835
01:26:13,310 --> 01:26:16,975
I just spent the last three
years learning to do less.

1836
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:20,010
I mean, where would you be
without me to take care of you?

1837
01:26:20,033 --> 01:26:23,527
The important thing about
approaching a character

1838
01:26:23,551 --> 01:26:26,527
like Billy in "Creepshow",
who everybody will watch

1839
01:26:26,551 --> 01:26:29,251
the movie and say oh,
she's just a bitch.

1840
01:26:29,274 --> 01:26:31,113
When was the last time
you got it up, Henry?

1841
01:26:31,136 --> 01:26:32,595
Huh?

1842
01:26:32,619 --> 01:26:34,493
When was the last time
you were a man in our bed?

1843
01:26:34,516 --> 01:26:36,493
She's the most horrible,
and she needed to be

1844
01:26:36,516 --> 01:26:39,595
so that everybody
would cheer when Henry

1845
01:26:39,619 --> 01:26:41,216
arranged for her demise.

1846
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:42,480
Don't you ever touch me again!

1847
01:26:48,103 --> 01:26:51,181
As an actor, you
don't play I'm a bitch.

1848
01:26:51,206 --> 01:26:54,493
You explore whatever
it is that made her

1849
01:26:54,516 --> 01:26:55,493
the way she was.

1850
01:26:55,518 --> 01:26:58,010
She's incredibly disappointed

1851
01:26:58,033 --> 01:27:00,113
in the way her life turned out.

1852
01:27:00,136 --> 01:27:02,457
Henry, goddammit!

1853
01:27:02,481 --> 01:27:03,975
How many times have I told you

1854
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:05,527
to lock the goddam door?

1855
01:27:05,551 --> 01:27:07,043
You have to
understand what it is

1856
01:27:07,068 --> 01:27:09,113
that drives the behavior.

1857
01:27:09,136 --> 01:27:11,216
At least Henry has
me to take care of him,

1858
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:12,493
don't you, dear?

1859
01:27:12,516 --> 01:27:13,975
I didn't see a lot
of films growing up,

1860
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:17,251
but I do remember something
called "Donovan's Brain".

1861
01:27:17,274 --> 01:27:19,907
I don't know that I had
ever seen a horror film

1862
01:27:19,930 --> 01:27:23,595
besides "Donovan's Brain",
until John invited me

1863
01:27:23,619 --> 01:27:26,206
to the screening of "Halloween".

1864
01:27:27,586 --> 01:27:31,010
I had just done The Tonight
Show earlier that day,

1865
01:27:31,033 --> 01:27:33,699
and announced on Johnny Carson

1866
01:27:33,724 --> 01:27:36,319
that John and I were engaged.

1867
01:27:36,344 --> 01:27:39,975
And then I went to the
screening of "Halloween".

1868
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,907
By the end of that film,
I suspect that he was

1869
01:27:42,930 --> 01:27:45,664
black and blue, because
I kept going, oh my god!

1870
01:27:45,689 --> 01:27:46,493
Oh my god!

1871
01:27:46,518 --> 01:27:48,078
I was like, oh, oh!

1872
01:27:48,103 --> 01:27:48,976
Oh my, oh!

1873
01:27:49,001 --> 01:27:51,389
You know?

1874
01:27:51,412 --> 01:27:54,068
It's the first horror
film I'd ever seen.

1875
01:27:55,206 --> 01:27:57,319
It was at that point
that Tom Atkins,

1876
01:27:57,344 --> 01:27:58,664
who is also at the screening,

1877
01:27:58,689 --> 01:28:00,907
leaned over to me and said Addy,

1878
01:28:00,930 --> 01:28:02,907
I'm not sure you
should marry this guy.

1879
01:28:02,930 --> 01:28:05,286
We cannot let
Adrienne marry this guy.

1880
01:28:05,310 --> 01:28:07,423
There's something
wrong with him.

1881
01:28:07,448 --> 01:28:09,251
He makes this kind of movie.

1882
01:28:09,274 --> 01:28:10,527
But she married him,

1883
01:28:10,551 --> 01:28:13,481
and they had a lovely
child together, Cody.

1884
01:28:14,310 --> 01:28:16,734
Well, stay up with me.

1885
01:28:16,757 --> 01:28:19,907
And I'll figure out some
way to keep you occupied.

1886
01:28:19,930 --> 01:28:23,769
When John first had me read
the script for "The Fog",

1887
01:28:23,792 --> 01:28:26,664
I was pretty involved
in social issues.

1888
01:28:26,689 --> 01:28:28,389
"Coming Home" was a huge hit,

1889
01:28:28,412 --> 01:28:31,734
and "The China Syndrome"
was a huge hit.

1890
01:28:31,757 --> 01:28:34,113
And I read it, and it was like,

1891
01:28:34,136 --> 01:28:37,310
uh, this is a horror film.

1892
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:43,148
This is not about
women's rights.

1893
01:28:43,171 --> 01:28:44,907
It's not about abortion.

1894
01:28:44,930 --> 01:28:47,251
But, I mean, I loved the
character and everything,

1895
01:28:47,274 --> 01:28:50,457
and of course, since,
it's one of the things

1896
01:28:50,481 --> 01:28:53,344
that I am most proud of doing.

1897
01:28:58,136 --> 01:29:01,354
The one piece of merchandise
that I really love,

1898
01:29:01,378 --> 01:29:03,595
"The Fog" action figure.

1899
01:29:03,619 --> 01:29:06,619
I think that's a marvelous
piece of merchandising.

1900
01:29:09,378 --> 01:29:10,907
None of us knew in the 80s

1901
01:29:10,930 --> 01:29:12,975
that the work we were doing,

1902
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:16,043
"Escape From New York", or
"The Fog", or "Creepshow',

1903
01:29:16,068 --> 01:29:20,862
would be as viable today.

1904
01:29:22,206 --> 01:29:24,689
The career of an
actor, when it works,

1905
01:29:25,586 --> 01:29:26,965
is a wonderful career.

1906
01:29:43,274 --> 01:29:44,423
"Xtro".

1907
01:29:44,448 --> 01:29:47,354
Some extraterrestrials
aren't friendly.

1908
01:29:47,378 --> 01:29:48,389
From New Line Cinema.

1909
01:29:48,412 --> 01:29:49,872
Rated R.

1910
01:29:49,895 --> 01:29:51,423
Roger begins with a
horror film called "Xtro".

1911
01:29:51,448 --> 01:29:52,907
That's X-T-R-O.

1912
01:29:52,930 --> 01:29:55,181
Remember that spelling,
remember that name.

1913
01:29:55,206 --> 01:29:58,975
So, "Xtro" is about an
alien that kills people,

1914
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:02,457
but it's also the cliche
of the disturbed kid

1915
01:30:02,481 --> 01:30:06,171
with the powers, and
evil clowns, too.

1916
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:13,757
It's kind of everything.

1917
01:30:16,551 --> 01:30:19,389
I'd say it's very confusing

1918
01:30:19,412 --> 01:30:21,907
slightly surrealistic movie,

1919
01:30:21,930 --> 01:30:24,551
and I'm not really
sure what it's about.

1920
01:30:25,792 --> 01:30:27,907
So a father gets
abducted by aliens.

1921
01:30:27,930 --> 01:30:30,286
The wife thinks that he
ran off with another woman.

1922
01:30:30,310 --> 01:30:32,310
The alien impregnates somebody.

1923
01:30:35,448 --> 01:30:39,078
Then the woman gives
birth to a human child,

1924
01:30:39,103 --> 01:30:40,975
and it turns out
to be the father,

1925
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:42,965
who's been abducted and reborn.

1926
01:30:44,136 --> 01:30:47,113
I'm told that it's
about abandonment.

1927
01:30:47,136 --> 01:30:50,319
Some very smart
critic told me that.

1928
01:30:50,344 --> 01:30:53,319
And I just hung onto that
word every since then.

1929
01:30:53,344 --> 01:30:55,975
I can't remember
a thing until today.

1930
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:57,527
I saw Tony in the streets, so-

1931
01:30:57,551 --> 01:30:59,043
You want to come home.

1932
01:30:59,068 --> 01:31:00,251
Like it was.

1933
01:31:00,274 --> 01:31:02,561
I think what makes
marketable film

1934
01:31:02,586 --> 01:31:04,412
of any kind is being unusual.

1935
01:31:05,586 --> 01:31:07,319
Bob Shaye, who's the
head of New Line,

1936
01:31:07,344 --> 01:31:08,975
and who started New Line,

1937
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:12,561
I think Bob Shaye wanted
to have his own "Phantasm".

1938
01:31:12,586 --> 01:31:14,113
We just wanted to shock people,

1939
01:31:14,136 --> 01:31:15,493
and make our little horror film,

1940
01:31:15,516 --> 01:31:17,595
and we wanted to have
good acting and so on,

1941
01:31:17,619 --> 01:31:19,734
so you've got this
rather uneasy business,

1942
01:31:19,757 --> 01:31:22,181
between all these little
Shakespearean actors,

1943
01:31:22,206 --> 01:31:25,354
and all this nonsense
that they've got to talk.

1944
01:31:25,378 --> 01:31:27,274
You'll be able to
do lots of things.

1945
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:29,631
Don't be frightened.

1946
01:31:29,654 --> 01:31:30,872
Use it when you need it.

1947
01:31:30,895 --> 01:31:32,113
The best part in "Xtro",

1948
01:31:32,136 --> 01:31:33,872
there's this creepy alien effect

1949
01:31:33,895 --> 01:31:35,699
where it's a person
doing one of those

1950
01:31:35,724 --> 01:31:37,319
backwards spider walks.

1951
01:31:37,344 --> 01:31:39,251
The prosthetic is
put on backwards,

1952
01:31:39,274 --> 01:31:41,171
so it looks very unsettling.

1953
01:31:42,757 --> 01:31:45,872
He's walking backwards
with his back to the ground

1954
01:31:45,895 --> 01:31:48,595
on all fours, but with
his stomach sticking up

1955
01:31:48,619 --> 01:31:52,457
to the sky, and the head of
the creature on backwards,

1956
01:31:52,481 --> 01:31:54,181
which was absolute
misery for him,

1957
01:31:54,206 --> 01:31:56,457
because it was cold,
and we were having him

1958
01:31:56,481 --> 01:31:58,724
walking through swamps,
and things like that.

1959
01:32:03,068 --> 01:32:04,975
A civilization develops
enough intelligence

1960
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:07,561
to come all the way to
Earth from another star,

1961
01:32:07,586 --> 01:32:08,940
and then they don't
have enough sense

1962
01:32:08,965 --> 01:32:10,251
to not stand in the
middle of the road

1963
01:32:10,274 --> 01:32:11,769
when a car is coming.

1964
01:32:11,792 --> 01:32:13,631
When it came to
this birth scene,

1965
01:32:13,654 --> 01:32:15,457
which, I think nobody understood

1966
01:32:15,481 --> 01:32:18,216
except me and the
special effects guys.

1967
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:20,010
We had to have a thing
with the false floor,

1968
01:32:20,033 --> 01:32:22,561
and all this sort of thing,
and trap doors, and whatnot.

1969
01:32:22,586 --> 01:32:24,769
We did a lot of it in one take.

1970
01:32:24,792 --> 01:32:27,010
As much of it as we
could in one take.

1971
01:32:27,033 --> 01:32:29,561
All sorts of nasty kind
of afterbirth stuff.

1972
01:32:29,586 --> 01:32:31,595
And then we had
the umbilical cord,

1973
01:32:31,619 --> 01:32:34,286
that we made out of
spaghetti, actually.

1974
01:32:34,310 --> 01:32:35,872
And he had to bite through that.

1975
01:32:35,895 --> 01:32:37,975
We were astonished we got it.

1976
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:39,907
No, I wasn't a bit worried
about it going too far.

1977
01:32:39,930 --> 01:32:42,310
I was worried about it
not going far enough.

1978
01:32:44,516 --> 01:32:47,837
Bob, god bless him, was
always more for having

1979
01:32:47,862 --> 01:32:49,734
more weird things going on.

1980
01:32:49,757 --> 01:32:51,664
He said hey, you gotta
have a panther in there,

1981
01:32:51,689 --> 01:32:52,699
jumping out at someone.

1982
01:32:52,724 --> 01:32:53,666
Something like that.

1983
01:32:53,689 --> 01:32:54,975
He wanted his panther.

1984
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:56,757
And he got it.

1985
01:33:02,516 --> 01:33:04,113
It's as if they're
so pretentious

1986
01:33:04,136 --> 01:33:05,354
that they're trying
to make some kind of

1987
01:33:05,378 --> 01:33:07,043
a philosophical statement.

1988
01:33:07,068 --> 01:33:07,940
It was garbage.

1989
01:33:07,965 --> 01:33:08,872
It was offensive.

1990
01:33:08,896 --> 01:33:10,181
Garbage is the operative word.

1991
01:33:10,206 --> 01:33:12,319
With little films like these,

1992
01:33:12,344 --> 01:33:14,769
the audience knows
it's a low budget film.

1993
01:33:14,792 --> 01:33:15,975
They know right away.

1994
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:18,010
They can sniff it
from the first frame.

1995
01:33:18,033 --> 01:33:20,516
And they tend to
be more forgiving.

1996
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:27,907
That was just at the
start of home video.

1997
01:33:27,930 --> 01:33:30,975
And I remember the first
week that we came out,

1998
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,561
we beat "Poltergeist",
if you can believe that,

1999
01:33:33,586 --> 01:33:35,792
in the VHS ratings.

2000
01:33:40,171 --> 01:33:43,078
It grew legs, and
it just ran off.

2001
01:33:43,103 --> 01:33:46,457
It absolutely killed in
the home video market.

2002
01:33:46,481 --> 01:33:47,792
Amazing.

2003
01:33:58,551 --> 01:34:00,010
"Curtains".

2004
01:34:00,033 --> 01:34:01,975
The ultimate nightmare.

2005
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:03,493
Canadian horror movie.

2006
01:34:03,516 --> 01:34:05,493
When you come from Canada,
you don't really realize

2007
01:34:05,516 --> 01:34:06,631
that the movies are from Canada.

2008
01:34:06,654 --> 01:34:07,907
Like Rush.

2009
01:34:07,930 --> 01:34:09,043
You don't think of it
as Canada's best band.

2010
01:34:09,068 --> 01:34:10,940
They're just a great band.

2011
01:34:10,965 --> 01:34:12,010
And what's the difference?

2012
01:34:12,033 --> 01:34:14,286
I mean, they're more friendly?

2013
01:34:14,310 --> 01:34:16,448
It kind of just blends in
with the American ones.

2014
01:34:18,895 --> 01:34:21,493
"Curtains" is about
a bunch of actresses

2015
01:34:21,516 --> 01:34:24,493
who go to a director's mansion
to audition for a role.

2016
01:34:24,516 --> 01:34:25,872
Red flag.

2017
01:34:25,895 --> 01:34:28,310
And there is a
killer on the loose.

2018
01:34:32,448 --> 01:34:35,389
And they're all also
competing for a part.

2019
01:34:35,412 --> 01:34:37,000
It gets messy.

2020
01:34:42,895 --> 01:34:45,631
An actress named Samantha
commits herself to a psych ward.

2021
01:34:45,654 --> 01:34:47,423
She's trying to,
like, be the part.

2022
01:34:47,448 --> 01:34:49,423
And then the director
fucking leaves her there

2023
01:34:49,448 --> 01:34:52,389
and goes to a mansion to
hang out with five other

2024
01:34:52,412 --> 01:34:54,010
younger, hotter actresses,

2025
01:34:54,033 --> 01:34:57,136
while a killer in a hag
mask goes after them.

2026
01:34:59,378 --> 01:35:01,734
It has these "What Ever
Happened to Baby Jane?" vibes,

2027
01:35:01,757 --> 01:35:03,699
just because there is that
element in the beginning

2028
01:35:03,724 --> 01:35:06,837
of the older actress who
gets left in a psych ward,

2029
01:35:06,862 --> 01:35:09,457
and has to escape
to get revenge.

2030
01:35:09,481 --> 01:35:11,310
What are you gonna do now?

2031
01:35:13,033 --> 01:35:14,561
What I love about the film

2032
01:35:14,586 --> 01:35:17,078
is it knows that Striker,
the director, is a creep.

2033
01:35:17,103 --> 01:35:18,103
Now seduce me.

2034
01:35:19,481 --> 01:35:20,481
No words.

2035
01:35:21,757 --> 01:35:23,078
You can make sounds if you like.

2036
01:35:23,103 --> 01:35:24,769
The horror in "Curtains" for me

2037
01:35:24,792 --> 01:35:28,457
is the way that Jonathan
Striker treats the women.

2038
01:35:28,481 --> 01:35:31,286
He forces two women
to seduce each other,

2039
01:35:31,310 --> 01:35:33,734
and she's topless,
and you can just tell

2040
01:35:33,757 --> 01:35:35,354
the women are not into it,

2041
01:35:35,378 --> 01:35:38,251
but they just do it because
it's requested of them.

2042
01:35:38,274 --> 01:35:41,975
He preys on them, ends
up sleeping with them.

2043
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:46,010
Almost like an allegory
on the industry.

2044
01:35:46,033 --> 01:35:49,975
And there's that great
scene in the frozen pond,

2045
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:53,595
where the one actress is
skating away from the killer

2046
01:35:53,619 --> 01:35:55,181
with this doll in her hand,

2047
01:35:55,206 --> 01:35:56,872
and the killer's got the mask on

2048
01:35:56,895 --> 01:36:00,033
with this side, like raises it,

2049
01:36:03,654 --> 01:36:06,423
Fucking insane, and
it's all in slow-mo,

2050
01:36:06,448 --> 01:36:09,136
and it's the weirdest
mask you've ever seen.

2051
01:36:10,654 --> 01:36:14,310
You don't know if
it's a woman or not.

2052
01:36:18,724 --> 01:36:20,181
It makes you fear the daylight,

2053
01:36:20,206 --> 01:36:23,286
and the emptiness in what
can happen when you're alone

2054
01:36:23,310 --> 01:36:25,769
in a seemingly safe space.

2055
01:36:25,792 --> 01:36:29,043
Originally, they wanted to
create a banshee creature,

2056
01:36:29,068 --> 01:36:31,103
but they didn't move
forward with it.

2057
01:36:33,448 --> 01:36:37,802
"Curtains" has a very
interesting kind of tone.

2058
01:36:37,827 --> 01:36:39,561
That's because it
was actually directed

2059
01:36:39,586 --> 01:36:41,043
by two different people.

2060
01:36:41,068 --> 01:36:44,837
It feels almost very slow,
and very mood building,

2061
01:36:44,862 --> 01:36:47,699
and then in some scenes,
it's very slash 'em up,

2062
01:36:47,724 --> 01:36:51,206
and darkly lit, that it feels
like an art house slasher.

2063
01:36:56,068 --> 01:36:58,181
"Curtains" is for
people who like dolls

2064
01:36:58,206 --> 01:37:00,802
and ice skating,
and old witch masks.

2065
01:37:00,827 --> 01:37:02,216
That has me written all over it.

2066
01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:03,586
So I'm sold.

2067
01:37:15,206 --> 01:37:16,734
"Hell of the Living Dead".

2068
01:37:16,757 --> 01:37:19,699
Also known as "Night
of the Zombies",

2069
01:37:19,724 --> 01:37:21,631
originally titled "Virus".

2070
01:37:21,654 --> 01:37:24,136
But known in England as
"Zombie Creeping Flesh".

2071
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:29,975
This is the VHS tape,
and a perfect example

2072
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:33,457
of the lurid artwork
that I would see

2073
01:37:33,481 --> 01:37:35,631
on the shelves of a video shop

2074
01:37:35,654 --> 01:37:37,481
and think that movie is for me.

2075
01:37:40,274 --> 01:37:41,837
There's a lab in
Papua New Guinea

2076
01:37:41,862 --> 01:37:44,561
that has a chemical that
accidentally gets released

2077
01:37:44,586 --> 01:37:47,516
that turns pretty much
everybody into zombies.

2078
01:37:49,586 --> 01:37:50,802
And you follow this
group of people

2079
01:37:50,827 --> 01:37:52,078
that travel around the globe

2080
01:37:52,103 --> 01:37:54,171
trying to stop this
grand conspiracy.

2081
01:37:55,103 --> 01:37:57,000
Or maybe you just get eaten.

2082
01:37:58,448 --> 01:38:00,448
This is an Italian film
that was dubbed in English.

2083
01:38:01,378 --> 01:38:02,975
It was directed by Bruno Mattei,

2084
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:05,043
under the pseudonym
Vincent Dawn.

2085
01:38:05,068 --> 01:38:06,354
If you're familiar
with his work,

2086
01:38:06,378 --> 01:38:08,907
you know the dubbing
is pretty terrible,

2087
01:38:08,930 --> 01:38:10,975
but that just adds to
the awesomeness of it.

2088
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:12,493
And we liked each other.

2089
01:38:12,516 --> 01:38:14,078
We'd be in the sack
together by now.

2090
01:38:14,103 --> 01:38:15,354
That's your opinion.

2091
01:38:15,378 --> 01:38:18,344
Bruno Mattei was the
copycat of Lucio Fulci.

2092
01:38:19,757 --> 01:38:22,319
"Hell of the Living Dead"
came about in the wake

2093
01:38:22,344 --> 01:38:24,631
of the success of
Fulci's "Zombie",

2094
01:38:24,654 --> 01:38:28,664
so essentially he was making
an Italian zombie movie

2095
01:38:28,689 --> 01:38:30,113
which was shot in Spain,

2096
01:38:30,136 --> 01:38:32,975
but using the tropes that
Fulci had come up with

2097
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:35,724
on the back of ripping
off George Romero.

2098
01:38:39,827 --> 01:38:43,561
Set to the scores of Goblin,

2099
01:38:43,586 --> 01:38:46,595
but none of the score was
actually scored for this movie.

2100
01:38:46,619 --> 01:38:49,286
They used the soundtrack
from "Contamination"

2101
01:38:49,310 --> 01:38:51,251
and "Dawn of the
Dead" by Goblin,

2102
01:38:51,274 --> 01:38:54,206
and scored this movie
with those scores.

2103
01:38:55,344 --> 01:38:56,149
Father.

2104
01:38:56,172 --> 01:38:57,493
Father.

2105
01:38:57,516 --> 01:38:58,619
What's wrong with you?

2106
01:39:02,033 --> 01:39:03,664
When the pandemic
hit really hard,

2107
01:39:03,689 --> 01:39:05,802
of course I couldn't
stop making movies.

2108
01:39:05,827 --> 01:39:08,493
The idea of "Corona Zombies"
was these ditzy girls,

2109
01:39:08,516 --> 01:39:12,010
they turn a movie on
that was the footage

2110
01:39:12,033 --> 01:39:13,872
from "Hell of the Living
Dead", with all this

2111
01:39:13,895 --> 01:39:15,631
very funny clever new dialogue.

2112
01:39:15,654 --> 01:39:17,389
We have
just received shocking video

2113
01:39:17,412 --> 01:39:20,354
of what is believed to be
ground zero of the virus.

2114
01:39:20,378 --> 01:39:22,792
It was much like
"What's Up Tiger Lily?"

2115
01:39:23,930 --> 01:39:26,907
Is that one of
the corona zombies?

2116
01:39:26,930 --> 01:39:28,148
Shh.

2117
01:39:28,171 --> 01:39:29,561
"Hell of the Living
Dead", it's very ahead

2118
01:39:29,586 --> 01:39:31,699
of its time, and it's
very much against

2119
01:39:31,724 --> 01:39:35,251
man infecting the
earth with pollution.

2120
01:39:35,274 --> 01:39:37,181
And that is what's
causing the outbreak.

2121
01:39:37,206 --> 01:39:41,286
But it's also full of
Fulci-esque rotting zombies

2122
01:39:41,310 --> 01:39:42,802
and gore and splatter,

2123
01:39:42,827 --> 01:39:44,010
and eyes being poked out,

2124
01:39:44,033 --> 01:39:46,000
and guts being poked out.

2125
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:50,113
This movie is entirely enjoyable

2126
01:39:50,136 --> 01:39:51,251
from beginning to end.

2127
01:39:51,274 --> 01:39:53,769
It was the first
example where I realized

2128
01:39:53,792 --> 01:39:56,240
that the Video Nasties
panic was nonsense.

2129
01:40:11,689 --> 01:40:13,068
Father help me.

2130
01:40:15,103 --> 01:40:17,699
"Possession" is a
film about a couple

2131
01:40:17,724 --> 01:40:20,975
whose marriage is
deteriorating fast.

2132
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:22,802
What do you expect of me?

2133
01:40:22,827 --> 01:40:24,000
Look what you're doing!

2134
01:40:26,792 --> 01:40:29,699
Mark and Anna, you
can see that they are

2135
01:40:29,724 --> 01:40:31,527
extremely unhappy
with each other.

2136
01:40:31,551 --> 01:40:33,251
They're screaming at each other.

2137
01:40:33,274 --> 01:40:36,344
Isabelle Adjani is incredible.

2138
01:40:41,103 --> 01:40:43,654
But especially in
the subway scene.

2139
01:40:48,378 --> 01:40:49,802
And it's so disturbing.

2140
01:40:49,827 --> 01:40:51,251
One of the most effective scenes

2141
01:40:51,274 --> 01:40:55,068
of showing somebody just
completely losing themselves.

2142
01:41:00,274 --> 01:41:02,527
Sam Neill as Mark in this film

2143
01:41:02,551 --> 01:41:04,757
is a very anxious character.

2144
01:41:08,619 --> 01:41:10,837
Cinematography
really communicates

2145
01:41:10,862 --> 01:41:12,561
his inner feelings.

2146
01:41:12,586 --> 01:41:14,940
He's also very
paranoid about Anna.

2147
01:41:14,965 --> 01:41:16,561
Their whole
relationship together

2148
01:41:16,586 --> 01:41:18,792
is extremely hard to watch.

2149
01:41:19,862 --> 01:41:21,240
You know what this is for?

2150
01:41:22,206 --> 01:41:23,631
The lies!

2151
01:41:23,654 --> 01:41:26,423
Then you have to add much more.

2152
01:41:26,448 --> 01:41:30,136
They're very codependent,
and very bad for each other.

2153
01:41:35,344 --> 01:41:37,975
The dramatic elements are
really what drives the movie,

2154
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:41,033
but then you have, it turns
into this creature feature.

2155
01:41:43,412 --> 01:41:44,355
My god.

2156
01:41:44,380 --> 01:41:46,378
He made love to me all night.

2157
01:41:47,862 --> 01:41:51,078
She actually in this movie
has sex with this monster,

2158
01:41:51,103 --> 01:41:52,907
which was created
by Carlo Rambaldi,

2159
01:41:52,930 --> 01:41:54,699
who most people
know is the person

2160
01:41:54,724 --> 01:41:57,171
who created E.T. for
Steven Spielberg.

2161
01:41:58,310 --> 01:41:59,802
I can't believe
that they talked her

2162
01:41:59,827 --> 01:42:01,181
into doing that entire scene.

2163
01:42:01,206 --> 01:42:04,412
And it looks so realistic.

2164
01:42:07,274 --> 01:42:11,319
"Possession" is the epitome
of relationship horror.

2165
01:42:11,344 --> 01:42:13,699
That feeling of how it
is to all out of love

2166
01:42:13,724 --> 01:42:15,251
with someone you care about.

2167
01:42:15,274 --> 01:42:19,010
Those moments of
desperation and loss

2168
01:42:19,033 --> 01:42:20,930
are so heartbreaking.

2169
01:42:23,965 --> 01:42:25,975
It's a lot to take in.

2170
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:28,837
It's waiting to see
who will die first.

2171
01:42:28,862 --> 01:42:31,769
That is a movie that
deserved all the Oscar love,

2172
01:42:31,792 --> 01:42:33,561
because it really
took a lot of risks,

2173
01:42:33,586 --> 01:42:35,930
but it did a lot of
profound things as well.

2174
01:42:51,895 --> 01:42:56,078
"Devil Fetus" was made by a
bunch of first time filmmakers

2175
01:42:56,103 --> 01:42:59,699
that got a hold of themselves
some iconic actors.

2176
01:42:59,724 --> 01:43:00,802
And it's crazy.

2177
01:43:00,827 --> 01:43:02,895
The special effects are insane.

2178
01:43:05,827 --> 01:43:07,802
A woman buys a vase.

2179
01:43:07,827 --> 01:43:09,792
The vase has a demon.

2180
01:43:12,895 --> 01:43:14,527
He crawls out, and
he has sex with her

2181
01:43:14,551 --> 01:43:15,734
and impregnates her.

2182
01:43:15,757 --> 01:43:18,561
And that's the
devil fetus title.

2183
01:43:18,586 --> 01:43:22,068
Everybody dies around
her in miraculous ways.

2184
01:43:24,412 --> 01:43:26,561
That antique shop has
a lot to answer for.

2185
01:43:26,586 --> 01:43:28,240
Like, I hope she
kept the receipt.

2186
01:43:29,171 --> 01:43:31,240
It's a very weird movie.

2187
01:43:36,827 --> 01:43:38,561
What is cool about it is
these special effects,

2188
01:43:38,586 --> 01:43:41,000
and it has so much 80s charm.

2189
01:43:46,930 --> 01:43:50,631
You have this animated
thunder and lightning

2190
01:43:50,654 --> 01:43:52,148
coming out of people's hands,

2191
01:43:52,171 --> 01:43:55,136
you have them flying across
things, and floating heads.

2192
01:43:59,551 --> 01:44:02,423
The martial arts in this
is incredible, actually.

2193
01:44:02,448 --> 01:44:04,516
That's one of the
biggest selling points.

2194
01:44:07,103 --> 01:44:08,286
There's all kinds
of things happening

2195
01:44:08,310 --> 01:44:10,481
in this movie that's
hard to explain.

2196
01:44:16,862 --> 01:44:18,664
To us it might seem
like a fever dream,

2197
01:44:18,689 --> 01:44:21,769
but to the people who were
involved in the culture,

2198
01:44:21,792 --> 01:44:24,240
they may know all of these
things from childhood.

2199
01:44:27,757 --> 01:44:29,595
Very few category
three films were cut,

2200
01:44:29,619 --> 01:44:30,965
and this one was.

2201
01:44:32,344 --> 01:44:34,181
It has to deal with
gore and the assault

2202
01:44:34,206 --> 01:44:36,251
that happens in the film.

2203
01:44:36,274 --> 01:44:38,319
Cat three goes to 11.

2204
01:44:38,344 --> 01:44:39,493
You know?

2205
01:44:39,516 --> 01:44:41,837
It's a little bit higher
than 10 and NC-17,

2206
01:44:41,862 --> 01:44:43,319
but it's not quite X.

2207
01:44:43,344 --> 01:44:46,000
Which, X-rated films were
rated Cat three as well.

2208
01:44:48,481 --> 01:44:49,699
You think the film's
going this way,

2209
01:44:49,724 --> 01:44:50,975
and then it goes in a
different direction.

2210
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:53,171
That's what's unique
about "Devil Fetus".

2211
01:44:58,481 --> 01:45:02,010
It has the most epic
last five minutes

2212
01:45:02,033 --> 01:45:04,136
of any movie you'll ever see.

2213
01:45:19,689 --> 01:45:21,319
"Eyes of Fire".

2214
01:45:21,344 --> 01:45:24,010
The secret is
sleeping in the trees.

2215
01:45:24,033 --> 01:45:25,148
"Eyes of Fire" is a weird one,

2216
01:45:25,171 --> 01:45:26,837
because it's set in the 1700s,

2217
01:45:26,862 --> 01:45:30,389
and it concerns a preacher
who is accused of adultery,

2218
01:45:30,412 --> 01:45:32,181
and is banished from town.

2219
01:45:32,206 --> 01:45:33,631
And he and his family
find themselves

2220
01:45:33,654 --> 01:45:37,216
in the woods beset by
spirits of Native Americans.

2221
01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:40,319
God damn them!

2222
01:45:40,344 --> 01:45:44,043
"Eyes of Fire" is an
American folk horror movie.

2223
01:45:44,068 --> 01:45:47,000
This valley is where
the lost blood gathers.

2224
01:45:48,481 --> 01:45:49,862
It's the home of the devil.

2225
01:45:51,068 --> 01:45:51,976
If you believe in it.

2226
01:45:52,001 --> 01:45:53,251
This film is entirely unique,

2227
01:45:53,274 --> 01:45:56,561
shot by a photographer
called Avery Crounse.

2228
01:45:56,586 --> 01:45:59,043
I don't believe he'd made
a feature film before this,

2229
01:45:59,068 --> 01:46:00,872
and he's only made
a couple since.

2230
01:46:00,895 --> 01:46:03,631
It is a very photogenic
folk horror movie

2231
01:46:03,654 --> 01:46:05,240
shot in the woods.

2232
01:46:10,654 --> 01:46:13,216
As opposed to the meat
and potato slasher stuff

2233
01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:15,802
of the 80s, there's a
lot of surreal imagery,

2234
01:46:15,827 --> 01:46:18,457
and surreal moments,
faces in trees,

2235
01:46:18,481 --> 01:46:20,907
just weird
hallucinogenic moments

2236
01:46:20,930 --> 01:46:23,078
that don't feel of a piece
with the 80s, necessarily,

2237
01:46:23,103 --> 01:46:25,136
which in itself
makes it exciting.

2238
01:46:29,310 --> 01:46:31,930
This is what makes it
really unique and stick out.

2239
01:46:38,895 --> 01:46:40,113
Folk horror is a
very broad subgenre,

2240
01:46:40,136 --> 01:46:42,769
but it had a real moment
in the 60s and 70s,

2241
01:46:42,792 --> 01:46:44,837
and was primarily
a British thing,

2242
01:46:44,862 --> 01:46:47,251
so the fact that you're
seeing a folk horror film,

2243
01:46:47,274 --> 01:46:50,113
A, in the 80s, and
B, set in America,

2244
01:46:50,136 --> 01:46:51,595
was a bit unusual.

2245
01:46:51,619 --> 01:46:54,975
It was independently
produced by Avery Crounse.

2246
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:56,389
He basically moved on.

2247
01:46:56,412 --> 01:46:59,344
He didn't particularly connect
with the film industry.

2248
01:47:00,586 --> 01:47:02,493
We went to great
effort to find him

2249
01:47:02,516 --> 01:47:04,113
so that we could
include "Eyes of Fire"

2250
01:47:04,136 --> 01:47:06,975
in our All the Haunts Be
Ours folk horror box set.

2251
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:09,423
He basically still
owned the movie.

2252
01:47:09,448 --> 01:47:12,043
He had the negative
in a storage unit,

2253
01:47:12,068 --> 01:47:14,493
and it had been sitting there
since the 80s, basically.

2254
01:47:14,516 --> 01:47:16,551
Had not been scanned since.

2255
01:47:17,724 --> 01:47:19,068
I can see again.

2256
01:47:21,136 --> 01:47:24,043
He sent it here so that
we could scan it here

2257
01:47:24,068 --> 01:47:27,216
at Severin office, and he
even had a previous version

2258
01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:29,457
called "Crying Blue
Sky", which was longer,

2259
01:47:29,481 --> 01:47:32,148
and we were able to scan that
and include that as well.

2260
01:47:32,171 --> 01:47:34,251
So the reason it had
been out of distribution

2261
01:47:34,274 --> 01:47:36,595
was just because he
was out of the business

2262
01:47:36,619 --> 01:47:39,448
and had not been
traceable since.

2263
01:47:42,171 --> 01:47:43,389
Don't worry, my child.

2264
01:47:43,412 --> 01:47:45,792
Luckily we were able to get it.

2265
01:47:59,516 --> 01:48:00,354
"Boarding House".

2266
01:48:00,378 --> 01:48:01,378
Rated R.

2267
01:48:02,551 --> 01:48:05,000
"Boarding House".

2268
01:48:11,033 --> 01:48:12,457
It was a movie
that didn't do well

2269
01:48:12,481 --> 01:48:15,527
that has gained a cult
following through the years.

2270
01:48:15,551 --> 01:48:19,148
John Wintergate, and
his wife Kalassu,

2271
01:48:19,171 --> 01:48:20,975
I believe they're
a little drunk,

2272
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:23,457
and they watched a
horror film at home,

2273
01:48:23,481 --> 01:48:25,113
and they both have the idea

2274
01:48:25,136 --> 01:48:27,068
of we can do that.

2275
01:48:31,274 --> 01:48:34,113
An interview John
Wintergate was watching

2276
01:48:34,136 --> 01:48:38,389
where George Lucas stated
that video is the future.

2277
01:48:38,412 --> 01:48:41,734
He got this idea it was easy
to make a movie on video.

2278
01:48:41,757 --> 01:48:44,010
You buy a video camera
for a few hundred dollars,

2279
01:48:44,033 --> 01:48:46,561
and you buy some blank
tapes, and you shoot a movie.

2280
01:48:46,586 --> 01:48:48,010
What is that?

2281
01:48:48,033 --> 01:48:48,872
It's apple juice.

2282
01:48:48,895 --> 01:48:49,804
Oh my god.

2283
01:48:49,828 --> 01:48:50,975
You didn't have to say that.

2284
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:52,664
They decided to
make a horror comedy.

2285
01:48:52,689 --> 01:48:56,206
They made the first big
shot on video movie.

2286
01:49:00,206 --> 01:49:01,354
But Wintergate and Kalassu

2287
01:49:01,378 --> 01:49:03,389
wrote, directed,
starred in this film,

2288
01:49:03,412 --> 01:49:04,769
did the music for it as well.

2289
01:49:04,792 --> 01:49:06,206
They were both musicians.

2290
01:49:08,378 --> 01:49:10,769
The husband and wife,
making something different.

2291
01:49:10,792 --> 01:49:12,423
When people watch the
movie, it's like wow,

2292
01:49:12,448 --> 01:49:13,631
this movie's crazy.

2293
01:49:13,654 --> 01:49:14,872
It's doing all these
sorts of things

2294
01:49:14,895 --> 01:49:15,804
that don't relate
to one another.

2295
01:49:15,828 --> 01:49:17,251
I'm preparing the Thorazine

2296
01:49:17,274 --> 01:49:19,423
for Mr. Ratchet's shock therapy.

2297
01:49:19,448 --> 01:49:20,907
Well, that's 'cause
it's heavily cut,

2298
01:49:20,930 --> 01:49:22,457
and that horror
comedy ended up being

2299
01:49:22,481 --> 01:49:24,043
two hours and 30 minutes long.

2300
01:49:24,068 --> 01:49:26,378
The distributors
did not like that.

2301
01:49:31,930 --> 01:49:33,975
They told to recut the
movie into what we got

2302
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:35,699
with "Boarding House",
which is an hour and a half

2303
01:49:35,724 --> 01:49:38,000
of a crazy, bizarre movie.

2304
01:49:40,344 --> 01:49:42,837
They cut out all the
comedy in the movie,

2305
01:49:42,862 --> 01:49:45,699
and tried to cut it as
a serious horror film.

2306
01:49:45,724 --> 01:49:48,631
I think that explains
a lot of the weirdness

2307
01:49:48,654 --> 01:49:49,802
in "Boarding House".

2308
01:49:49,827 --> 01:49:51,930
Watch.

2309
01:49:55,551 --> 01:49:58,664
This was the first,
and probably only,

2310
01:49:58,689 --> 01:50:00,631
wide release of a
shot on video movie

2311
01:50:00,654 --> 01:50:01,907
to screen and theaters,

2312
01:50:01,930 --> 01:50:03,907
because he blew up
35 millimeter prints,

2313
01:50:03,930 --> 01:50:06,171
which was very costly.

2314
01:50:09,586 --> 01:50:11,975
"Blood Cult" is
sometimes considered

2315
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:15,493
the first shot on video
film, but it is not.

2316
01:50:15,516 --> 01:50:18,769
"Blood Cult" was the
first shot on video movie

2317
01:50:18,792 --> 01:50:21,216
made for the video
market on home video.

2318
01:50:21,240 --> 01:50:22,664
"Blood Cult".

2319
01:50:22,689 --> 01:50:25,516
The first movie made especially
for the home video market.

2320
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:30,619
"Boarding House" paved
the way for shot on video.

2321
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:38,837
Filmmakers took notice that
you could buy a video camera,

2322
01:50:38,862 --> 01:50:41,561
or borrow your parents',
because they probably have one,

2323
01:50:41,586 --> 01:50:43,769
and then start shooting
movies with your friends.

2324
01:50:43,792 --> 01:50:46,595
That kick started the
shot on video boom.

2325
01:50:46,619 --> 01:50:48,734
You are trespassing.

2326
01:50:48,757 --> 01:50:53,654
This is my house!

2327
01:51:03,378 --> 01:51:04,940
Throughout the
80s, Asia were making

2328
01:51:04,965 --> 01:51:06,975
all of these horror films
that didn't really get

2329
01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:09,389
much seen across the world,

2330
01:51:09,412 --> 01:51:11,802
but they were producing
some incredible stuff,

2331
01:51:11,827 --> 01:51:13,344
from interesting places.

2332
01:51:16,551 --> 01:51:19,078
I grew up in a half
Asian household.

2333
01:51:19,103 --> 01:51:21,286
My mum is from Philippines.

2334
01:51:21,310 --> 01:51:24,595
She made sure I was
aware that monsters

2335
01:51:24,619 --> 01:51:27,206
and ghosts and
creatures are real.

2336
01:51:32,310 --> 01:51:35,481
Asian horror just really
gets under your skin.

2337
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:40,734
The first time I was exposed
to Asian horror movies

2338
01:51:40,757 --> 01:51:45,216
was when the whole boom came
with "The Ring", "Ju-on".

2339
01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:46,493
"The Grudge".

2340
01:51:46,516 --> 01:51:48,595
That opened a whole
new world for me.

2341
01:51:48,619 --> 01:51:52,206
I just thought, okay this is
the stuff of my nightmares.

2342
01:51:59,344 --> 01:52:04,113
I think that Japanese
people don't care as much

2343
01:52:04,136 --> 01:52:05,975
in the realism.

2344
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:08,286
It's more deep symbolism,

2345
01:52:08,310 --> 01:52:12,975
and much more thought
out inner mental things,

2346
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:15,965
rather than just the
coherent storytelling.

2347
01:52:16,965 --> 01:52:18,965
That is more important to me.

2348
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:24,423
Their points of
reference for what's scary

2349
01:52:24,448 --> 01:52:25,940
are often very different.

2350
01:52:25,965 --> 01:52:27,493
A lot of western horror,
there's a Judeo-Christian

2351
01:52:27,516 --> 01:52:29,516
sort of root to it.

2352
01:52:30,757 --> 01:52:33,699
And their fears and
their preoccupations,

2353
01:52:33,724 --> 01:52:36,010
and their boogeymen come
from a different place.

2354
01:52:36,033 --> 01:52:38,078
And it's exciting to see
that cultural difference,

2355
01:52:38,103 --> 01:52:40,493
exciting to see
what scares people

2356
01:52:40,516 --> 01:52:41,965
in a culture that's
not your own.

2357
01:52:43,792 --> 01:52:45,769
I was very attracted
to the Asian flow

2358
01:52:45,792 --> 01:52:50,493
of movies coming in that
are about dream scapes,

2359
01:52:50,516 --> 01:52:53,286
that are about ghosts,
anything like that,

2360
01:52:53,310 --> 01:52:56,493
that gets me off in a
way that is both scary

2361
01:52:56,516 --> 01:52:59,103
and not as uncomfortable
as seeing a lot of blood.

2362
01:53:01,689 --> 01:53:03,664
My favorite Japanese
horror movie from the 80s

2363
01:53:03,689 --> 01:53:07,527
by far is "Sweet Home"
because it's so, so, so nuts.

2364
01:53:07,551 --> 01:53:10,043
At the same time, Capcom
released a game version,

2365
01:53:10,068 --> 01:53:12,940
which is almost better
than the actual film.

2366
01:53:12,965 --> 01:53:16,354
It's also the influence for
"Resident Evil" as well.

2367
01:53:16,378 --> 01:53:18,527
"Resident Evil".

2368
01:53:18,551 --> 01:53:21,699
So Kiyoshi Kurosawa, he's
the director of "Sweet Home".

2369
01:53:21,724 --> 01:53:23,423
And he went on to
do some of the best

2370
01:53:23,448 --> 01:53:26,251
Japanese horror
movies of the late 90s

2371
01:53:26,274 --> 01:53:27,802
and early 2000s.

2372
01:53:27,827 --> 01:53:29,631
If it wasn't for
him leading the way

2373
01:53:29,654 --> 01:53:31,975
making Japanese movies that
could potentially appeal

2374
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:34,113
to a Western audience,
you wouldn't have had

2375
01:53:34,136 --> 01:53:36,103
this J-horror explosion.

2376
01:53:39,378 --> 01:53:40,664
When you mention
80s Asian horror,

2377
01:53:40,689 --> 01:53:42,975
a lot of people think
of "House" from Japan,

2378
01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:45,586
although that one's from 1977.

2379
01:53:49,344 --> 01:53:50,872
If you watch Japanese horror,

2380
01:53:50,895 --> 01:53:53,389
if you watch something
from Thailand,

2381
01:53:53,412 --> 01:53:55,043
if you watch something
from South Korea,

2382
01:53:55,068 --> 01:53:57,078
you're going to get a
different experience

2383
01:53:57,103 --> 01:53:58,354
from each of those.

2384
01:53:58,378 --> 01:54:00,561
South Korea's horror
movement that happened

2385
01:54:00,586 --> 01:54:04,136
just after J-horror explosion
has been incredible.

2386
01:54:07,171 --> 01:54:09,940
South Korea, Indonesia,
and the Philippines

2387
01:54:09,965 --> 01:54:12,631
kind of came into their
own regarding horror

2388
01:54:12,654 --> 01:54:14,216
a little bit later.

2389
01:54:14,240 --> 01:54:16,802
In terms of horror that's
commercially viable

2390
01:54:16,827 --> 01:54:18,310
in the Western world.

2391
01:54:21,619 --> 01:54:23,837
In the Philippines, there's
actually a lot of horror.

2392
01:54:23,862 --> 01:54:27,940
It's very sad that I can
not count on one hand

2393
01:54:27,965 --> 01:54:29,940
how many cross over to America.

2394
01:54:29,965 --> 01:54:32,148
One of the best
places for Asian horror,

2395
01:54:32,171 --> 01:54:34,862
especially out of
the 80s, was China.

2396
01:54:37,378 --> 01:54:39,975
A lot of it was based
on the mythology.

2397
01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:43,354
We see demons, vampires,
ghosts, poltergeists,

2398
01:54:43,378 --> 01:54:46,310
a lot of witches, a
lot of wizards as well.

2399
01:54:49,412 --> 01:54:51,493
Some movies you should
definitely check out

2400
01:54:51,516 --> 01:54:54,286
are "Kung Fu Zombie",
"Human Lanterns",

2401
01:54:54,310 --> 01:54:57,113
"Seeding of a Ghost",
and "Witch from Nepal"

2402
01:54:57,136 --> 01:54:58,757
with Chow Yun-Fat.

2403
01:55:03,171 --> 01:55:05,389
We know the Shaw
Brothers and Golden Harvest

2404
01:55:05,412 --> 01:55:08,457
as the purveyors of incredible
martial arts movies,

2405
01:55:08,481 --> 01:55:12,862
but they also dip their toe
in a lot of horror as well.

2406
01:55:16,930 --> 01:55:18,043
Asian horror cinema,

2407
01:55:18,068 --> 01:55:19,895
I like vampire movies for that.

2408
01:55:22,274 --> 01:55:26,274
Scary things that there is a
story of how they got scary.

2409
01:55:29,619 --> 01:55:30,907
The way they
present their monsters

2410
01:55:30,930 --> 01:55:33,286
is just so
fundamentally different

2411
01:55:33,310 --> 01:55:36,769
than how the Western
stereotype of a vampire

2412
01:55:36,792 --> 01:55:39,000
is just completely blown
up in an Asian film.

2413
01:55:40,448 --> 01:55:43,423
I'm completely obsessed
by the "Mr. Vampire" movies.

2414
01:55:43,448 --> 01:55:46,802
I'd never seen Jiangshi
vampires before.

2415
01:55:46,827 --> 01:55:50,113
I was mesmerized by
how comedic they were.

2416
01:55:50,136 --> 01:55:51,378
They hop.

2417
01:55:55,240 --> 01:55:56,631
When you watch "Mr. Vampire",

2418
01:55:56,654 --> 01:55:58,527
you see why people
are scared of them,

2419
01:55:58,551 --> 01:56:00,181
because they are relentless,

2420
01:56:00,206 --> 01:56:01,975
and you have to know
all of the tricks

2421
01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:03,000
in order to defeat them.

2422
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:08,586
"The Jitters" is
an unusual film.

2423
01:56:12,757 --> 01:56:15,389
Plus "The Jitters" was
directed by John Fasano

2424
01:56:15,412 --> 01:56:16,664
and not a Chinese guy.

2425
01:56:16,689 --> 01:56:18,457
There's a little bit
lost in translation.

2426
01:56:18,481 --> 01:56:20,837
It played fast and loose
with Chinese mythology

2427
01:56:20,862 --> 01:56:21,862
quite a lot.

2428
01:56:22,862 --> 01:56:25,802
Someone thought that
since they're so popular

2429
01:56:25,827 --> 01:56:28,423
over there, we'd make
an American version

2430
01:56:28,448 --> 01:56:31,619
of these movies, and
see how that does.

2431
01:56:32,448 --> 01:56:33,699
I got him!

2432
01:56:33,724 --> 01:56:35,148
I'm uncomfortable
with the movie now,

2433
01:56:35,171 --> 01:56:39,481
because there's a lot of
racial stereotypes in there,

2434
01:56:40,862 --> 01:56:43,078
at the time, I didn't
really think was a big deal,

2435
01:56:43,103 --> 01:56:44,412
but it is.

2436
01:56:51,240 --> 01:56:53,043
Understanding horror
explored through the lens

2437
01:56:53,068 --> 01:56:55,148
of other cultures, it's
an important thing,

2438
01:56:55,171 --> 01:56:56,699
and it's a cool thing.

2439
01:56:56,724 --> 01:56:58,493
Different cultures have
all these different kinds

2440
01:56:58,516 --> 01:57:00,769
of mythologies to draw from,

2441
01:57:00,792 --> 01:57:03,664
and there's just this
endless well of stories

2442
01:57:03,689 --> 01:57:04,930
that we can build upon.

2443
01:57:06,619 --> 01:57:09,423
When you're talking
about Asian horror now,

2444
01:57:09,448 --> 01:57:12,113
people are looking at it
from a broader perspective

2445
01:57:12,136 --> 01:57:15,319
because they've been able
to watch these movies.

2446
01:57:15,344 --> 01:57:18,734
Whereas in the 80s, a lot
of them were available,

2447
01:57:18,757 --> 01:57:22,551
but they just never really made
it outside of their markets.

2448
01:57:24,516 --> 01:57:26,148
Asian horror was
somewhat inaccessible

2449
01:57:26,171 --> 01:57:27,389
to a lot of us in the 80s.

2450
01:57:27,412 --> 01:57:28,837
Video stores didn't
carry a lot of it,

2451
01:57:28,862 --> 01:57:31,872
and it's only after J-horror
came up after the fact

2452
01:57:31,895 --> 01:57:34,010
that then suddenly we're
retroactively going back

2453
01:57:34,033 --> 01:57:35,837
into these catalogs and
finding these titles

2454
01:57:35,862 --> 01:57:38,516
that were not on our
radar in the 80s.

2455
01:57:41,136 --> 01:57:42,561
In a way that's kind of cool,

2456
01:57:42,586 --> 01:57:44,734
because then that's a
bucket of 80s horror

2457
01:57:44,757 --> 01:57:47,000
that we can go back
and look for now.

2458
01:58:00,895 --> 01:58:04,837
School was
hell, but vacation was murder.

2459
01:58:04,862 --> 01:58:05,862
"The Mutilator".

2460
01:58:06,654 --> 01:58:07,872
"The Mutilator".

2461
01:58:07,895 --> 01:58:09,802
It was originally
titled "Fall Break",

2462
01:58:09,827 --> 01:58:12,837
but the filmmakers apparently
felt "The Mutilator"

2463
01:58:12,862 --> 01:58:15,389
was a much more
user friendly title.

2464
01:58:15,412 --> 01:58:18,631
Four days of R
and R at the beach.

2465
01:58:18,654 --> 01:58:19,458
I'm in.

2466
01:58:19,483 --> 01:58:20,631
Sounds good to me.

2467
01:58:20,654 --> 01:58:22,389
I got a bad feeling about this.

2468
01:58:22,412 --> 01:58:23,907
College kids on
their fall break,

2469
01:58:23,930 --> 01:58:26,595
and they get picked
off one by one.

2470
01:58:26,619 --> 01:58:31,551
I'm coming to get you!

2471
01:58:33,827 --> 01:58:37,010
By different use of power tools,

2472
01:58:37,033 --> 01:58:39,103
and home repair tools.

2473
01:58:41,310 --> 01:58:43,631
One of the friends,
his dad hates him

2474
01:58:43,654 --> 01:58:46,103
because he blames him for
the death of his mother.

2475
01:58:49,689 --> 01:58:52,078
Just like this angry
dad who hates his son

2476
01:58:52,103 --> 01:58:54,757
and is gonna take it out
on him and his friends.

2477
01:59:00,516 --> 01:59:02,078
"The Mutilator" is
one of those that tries

2478
01:59:02,103 --> 01:59:04,975
to present as a comedy,
but isn't sure it wants

2479
01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:06,664
to be a comedy,
and you're not sure

2480
01:59:06,689 --> 01:59:08,940
if you're supposed to be
laughing at a lot of it.

2481
01:59:08,965 --> 01:59:10,734
Looks like the party's
over for this joker.

2482
01:59:10,757 --> 01:59:12,907
Oh.

2483
01:59:12,930 --> 01:59:14,078
Yeah.

2484
01:59:14,103 --> 01:59:15,769
My dad ran over him
with a ski boat.

2485
01:59:15,792 --> 01:59:17,493
It's dancing to the
beat of its own drum.

2486
01:59:17,516 --> 01:59:19,010
What's wrong with the water?

2487
01:59:19,033 --> 01:59:21,595
It looks like it's been
loaded down with chlorine.

2488
01:59:21,619 --> 01:59:23,354
Will that hurt you?

2489
01:59:23,378 --> 01:59:25,595
No, in fact it
probably prevents herpes.

2490
01:59:25,619 --> 01:59:28,286
The art for "The
Mutilator" has this tagline

2491
01:59:28,310 --> 01:59:33,310
that says by sword, by
pick, by ax, bye-bye.

2492
01:59:34,171 --> 01:59:36,286
Catchy title, catchy tagline,

2493
01:59:36,310 --> 01:59:38,103
and some eye-grabbing art.

2494
01:59:39,274 --> 01:59:42,010
The more extreme the
exploitation level is,

2495
01:59:42,033 --> 01:59:43,907
the more likely a teen
is gonna rent that.

2496
01:59:43,930 --> 01:59:45,586
And that's the idea.

2497
01:59:49,930 --> 01:59:51,043
And that's why we
love these movies

2498
01:59:51,068 --> 01:59:52,481
so much to this day.

2499
02:00:05,895 --> 02:00:08,286
My first film in America,

2500
02:00:08,310 --> 02:00:11,389
which is absolutely adored
doing, was "Maniac",

2501
02:00:11,412 --> 02:00:15,286
and I got to work with my
lovely Joe Spinell again,

2502
02:00:15,310 --> 02:00:18,586
who I first met in "Star Crash".

2503
02:00:21,551 --> 02:00:23,907
People connect with Joe Spinell.

2504
02:00:23,930 --> 02:00:26,412
He is a compelling
actor to watch.

2505
02:00:28,000 --> 02:00:29,457
I loved working with
Joe because he was

2506
02:00:29,481 --> 02:00:33,619
such a brilliant actor,
and a sweet, dear person.

2507
02:00:35,689 --> 02:00:38,907
"The Last Horror Film" is
about New York cab driver

2508
02:00:38,930 --> 02:00:41,561
who's obsessed with
Caroline Munroe,

2509
02:00:41,586 --> 02:00:43,907
and he follows her to
the Cannes Film Festival

2510
02:00:43,930 --> 02:00:46,724
where a serial killer
is on the loose.

2511
02:00:50,792 --> 02:00:52,527
It was called "The
Last Horror Film",

2512
02:00:52,551 --> 02:00:54,862
and then they called it
"Fanatic" after that.

2513
02:00:56,171 --> 02:00:59,113
This film was an unofficial
followup to "Maniac".

2514
02:00:59,136 --> 02:01:00,354
I got talent, ma!

2515
02:01:00,378 --> 02:01:01,907
I'm gonna be a great
director someday!

2516
02:01:01,930 --> 02:01:03,181
Don't yell at your mother!

2517
02:01:03,206 --> 02:01:04,975
It's great to see Joe Spinell

2518
02:01:05,000 --> 02:01:06,561
and Caroline Munroe together,

2519
02:01:06,586 --> 02:01:08,448
and I think the
pairing is fantastic.

2520
02:01:09,551 --> 02:01:10,595
Who is it?

2521
02:01:10,619 --> 02:01:11,802
We were an odd couple.

2522
02:01:11,827 --> 02:01:13,181
We were, weren't we?

2523
02:01:13,206 --> 02:01:15,216
Jana Bates is going to
star in my next movie.

2524
02:01:15,240 --> 02:01:16,149
It's all set.

2525
02:01:16,172 --> 02:01:17,561
I'm producing and directing.

2526
02:01:17,586 --> 02:01:19,769
Vinny, are you sure
you're making a movie?

2527
02:01:19,792 --> 02:01:21,802
He was wonderful in that film.

2528
02:01:21,827 --> 02:01:24,251
Very quirky, very quirky.

2529
02:01:24,274 --> 02:01:27,595
And my character, she
was spooked by Joe,

2530
02:01:27,619 --> 02:01:31,043
because Joe had an obsession
for this actress, Jana Bates.

2531
02:01:31,068 --> 02:01:33,043
Who are you?

2532
02:01:33,068 --> 02:01:34,286
Get out.

2533
02:01:34,310 --> 02:01:35,389
I thought we'd just have a drink

2534
02:01:35,412 --> 02:01:36,561
and talk about the film.

2535
02:01:36,586 --> 02:01:38,354
You'll be absolutely
perfect in it.

2536
02:01:38,378 --> 02:01:40,078
It was directed
by David Winters,

2537
02:01:40,103 --> 02:01:41,595
who was in "West Side Story",

2538
02:01:41,619 --> 02:01:43,802
and sure enough, they
just showed up in Cannes,

2539
02:01:43,827 --> 02:01:45,595
and started shooting this movie,

2540
02:01:45,619 --> 02:01:47,975
so there's a lot of
run and gun footage

2541
02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:50,113
of the Cannes Film Festival.

2542
02:01:50,136 --> 02:01:51,769
One of the first guerrilla films

2543
02:01:51,792 --> 02:01:53,354
to be made there, for sure.

2544
02:01:53,378 --> 02:01:56,907
And I had to run along
the crasette in a towel.

2545
02:01:56,930 --> 02:01:59,595
They were all lined
up, real people,

2546
02:01:59,619 --> 02:02:02,975
to see Jack Nicholson,
Leslie Caron,

2547
02:02:03,000 --> 02:02:04,734
go on the red carpet.

2548
02:02:04,757 --> 02:02:06,251
They said Caroline, you're
just gonna have to run

2549
02:02:06,274 --> 02:02:07,493
along the red carpet.

2550
02:02:07,516 --> 02:02:09,010
I said what, I've
got a towel on.

2551
02:02:09,033 --> 02:02:11,895
They said that's okay,
just do your own thing.

2552
02:02:14,000 --> 02:02:15,148
Please!

2553
02:02:15,171 --> 02:02:16,975
Hot damn, that's Jana Bates!

2554
02:02:17,000 --> 02:02:19,940
"The Last Horror Film"
is not as gory as "Maniac"

2555
02:02:19,965 --> 02:02:22,619
but it does have a good
amount of kills in it.

2556
02:02:25,481 --> 02:02:27,481
There's a lot of meta elements.

2557
02:02:28,895 --> 02:02:30,769
There's one bit where
Joe Spinell's in a cinema

2558
02:02:30,792 --> 02:02:32,872
watching a new horror movie,

2559
02:02:32,895 --> 02:02:34,493
and he actually is
eating his popcorn,

2560
02:02:34,516 --> 02:02:35,664
and starts throwing up

2561
02:02:35,689 --> 02:02:38,000
because it's too
gross, too disgusting.

2562
02:02:40,724 --> 02:02:42,181
It's questioning horror movies

2563
02:02:42,206 --> 02:02:44,493
because "Maniac" got
a lot of backlash

2564
02:02:44,516 --> 02:02:46,664
because of how
misogynistic it was.

2565
02:02:46,689 --> 02:02:49,734
Now tell us why you're
such a failure, Vinny.

2566
02:02:49,757 --> 02:02:51,216
I'm a genius.

2567
02:02:51,240 --> 02:02:53,113
Jana Bates is going
to star in my movie.

2568
02:02:53,136 --> 02:02:54,216
She loves me!

2569
02:02:54,240 --> 02:02:56,010
It's a very bizarre film.

2570
02:02:56,033 --> 02:02:58,631
So I would think
the ultimate theme

2571
02:02:58,654 --> 02:03:00,940
for "The Last Horror
Film" or "The Fanatic"

2572
02:03:00,965 --> 02:03:02,664
would have to be obsession.

2573
02:03:02,689 --> 02:03:03,493
Obsessive love.

2574
02:03:03,518 --> 02:03:04,769
He loved her.

2575
02:03:04,792 --> 02:03:07,561
Or he loved what he
saw of her onscreen.

2576
02:03:07,586 --> 02:03:09,286
But he didn't know her.

2577
02:03:09,310 --> 02:03:11,149
Could you move your
head a little to the right

2578
02:03:11,689 --> 02:03:12,862
in this space?

2579
02:03:14,792 --> 02:03:16,516
Perfect, just perfect.

2580
02:03:21,862 --> 02:03:23,043
I always think it's
really interesting

2581
02:03:23,068 --> 02:03:25,975
when the protagonist
of a horror film,

2582
02:03:26,000 --> 02:03:28,389
especially in this
period, is a guy,

2583
02:03:28,412 --> 02:03:30,699
because usually we
associate the 80s

2584
02:03:30,724 --> 02:03:35,136
as the time where final
girls came into full force.

2585
02:03:38,240 --> 02:03:40,078
"Mutant".

2586
02:03:40,103 --> 02:03:41,493
"Mutant", originally released

2587
02:03:41,516 --> 02:03:43,734
as "Night Shadows" theatrically.

2588
02:03:43,757 --> 02:03:46,734
It turned up on VHS as "Mutant".

2589
02:03:46,757 --> 02:03:50,043
The two very capable
leads are Wings Hauser

2590
02:03:50,068 --> 02:03:51,561
and Lee Montgomery.

2591
02:03:51,586 --> 02:03:54,216
Our car broke down and we
just need a place to stay.

2592
02:03:54,240 --> 02:03:56,148
We'll be gone first thing
in the morning, I promise.

2593
02:03:56,171 --> 02:03:58,423
They end up in a dead end town

2594
02:03:58,448 --> 02:04:00,619
because their car messed up.

2595
02:04:02,378 --> 02:04:03,699
They go to the local bar,

2596
02:04:03,724 --> 02:04:06,078
and instantly these
locals beat them up,

2597
02:04:06,103 --> 02:04:07,354
rough them up.

2598
02:04:07,378 --> 02:04:08,895
Oh no!

2599
02:04:10,378 --> 02:04:12,975
They end up being patched
up by the local doctor.

2600
02:04:13,000 --> 02:04:15,078
And they start to get
their first inklings

2601
02:04:15,103 --> 02:04:16,631
that something is
wrong in this town,

2602
02:04:16,654 --> 02:04:18,493
that people are going missing.

2603
02:04:18,516 --> 02:04:21,457
This is toxic waste
infecting a small community

2604
02:04:21,481 --> 02:04:24,136
and turning them into zombies.

2605
02:04:25,378 --> 02:04:26,907
This mutation somehow causes

2606
02:04:26,930 --> 02:04:28,516
an increasing need for blood.

2607
02:04:30,481 --> 02:04:32,010
Just so many zombies.

2608
02:04:32,033 --> 02:04:33,654
They're all over the place.

2609
02:04:37,412 --> 02:04:39,586
It was obviously
inspired by George Romero.

2610
02:04:42,344 --> 02:04:43,595
And you see this
in a lot of films,

2611
02:04:43,619 --> 02:04:44,802
like "Return of
the Living Dead",

2612
02:04:44,827 --> 02:04:46,319
and you see it in a
lot of the Troma films.

2613
02:04:46,344 --> 02:04:48,827
Toxic waste was a
big thing in the 80s.

2614
02:04:51,724 --> 02:04:53,975
I like my zombies to be serious.

2615
02:04:54,000 --> 02:04:56,043
They definitely got
the vibe of what made

2616
02:04:56,068 --> 02:04:57,654
those movies so much fun.

2617
02:04:59,412 --> 02:05:00,940
No!

2618
02:05:00,965 --> 02:05:02,286
The effects are kind of hokey,

2619
02:05:02,310 --> 02:05:04,527
because when these
zombies approach you,

2620
02:05:04,551 --> 02:05:06,802
and they touch you, which
ultimately turns you

2621
02:05:06,827 --> 02:05:10,010
into a zombie, all this
steam comes off you,

2622
02:05:10,033 --> 02:05:12,319
almost like they're
pressing a shirt,

2623
02:05:12,344 --> 02:05:14,033
like a big life sized iron.

2624
02:05:18,136 --> 02:05:19,457
Jack?

2625
02:05:19,481 --> 02:05:20,907
But there's one
real cool sequence

2626
02:05:20,930 --> 02:05:22,595
where you just know
there's gonna be a zombie.

2627
02:05:22,619 --> 02:05:23,837
You just know it.

2628
02:05:23,862 --> 02:05:25,907
And then she slowly
goes over to him,

2629
02:05:25,930 --> 02:05:28,206
slowly pulls out the covers.

2630
02:05:30,862 --> 02:05:34,240
These locals just inherently
hate other people.

2631
02:05:37,310 --> 02:05:39,907
Some secrets should
remain secret,

2632
02:05:39,930 --> 02:05:42,010
and the way you do
that is by keeping

2633
02:05:42,033 --> 02:05:44,033
all the outsiders away.

2634
02:05:59,689 --> 02:06:02,907
"The New York Ripper"
is a very violent giallo

2635
02:06:02,930 --> 02:06:05,664
made by Lucio Fulci
after he'd already made

2636
02:06:05,689 --> 02:06:07,286
"Zombie Flesh
Eaters", "The Beyond",

2637
02:06:07,310 --> 02:06:08,975
and "House by the Cemetery".

2638
02:06:09,000 --> 02:06:11,457
Fulci was kind of riding
high at this point

2639
02:06:11,481 --> 02:06:12,664
in his career.

2640
02:06:12,689 --> 02:06:14,975
"Zombie" was a huge
success internationally

2641
02:06:15,000 --> 02:06:17,872
by the standards of Italian
exploitation movies.

2642
02:06:17,895 --> 02:06:20,551
He went on and decided
to make a thriller.

2643
02:06:21,619 --> 02:06:23,792
About a ripper in New York.

2644
02:06:25,792 --> 02:06:28,527
During this time, a lot
of Italian filmmakers

2645
02:06:28,551 --> 02:06:32,664
would come to the US and
shoot establishing footage,

2646
02:06:32,689 --> 02:06:35,389
and that's all tied into
how Italian filmmakers

2647
02:06:35,412 --> 02:06:38,551
were trying to make their
films seem American.

2648
02:06:42,136 --> 02:06:44,664
The killer in the
film has a Donald Duck

2649
02:06:44,689 --> 02:06:46,699
kind of quacking voice.

2650
02:06:46,724 --> 02:06:48,181
Said he called back.

2651
02:06:48,206 --> 02:06:49,895
Sounded just like a duck.

2652
02:06:52,171 --> 02:06:53,389
Like a duck?

2653
02:06:53,412 --> 02:06:55,354
Which adds to the
element of the bizarre

2654
02:06:55,378 --> 02:06:58,181
of this movie, and I
think it shows Fulci's

2655
02:06:58,206 --> 02:07:00,136
sense of humor as well.

2656
02:07:03,068 --> 02:07:05,181
There's a fair amount
of sleaze in the movie

2657
02:07:05,206 --> 02:07:06,792
as well, and nudity.

2658
02:07:10,654 --> 02:07:13,251
There's a very famous
sequence in the film

2659
02:07:13,274 --> 02:07:15,181
where an actress
is tied to a bed,

2660
02:07:15,206 --> 02:07:17,181
and essentially
gets razor bladed

2661
02:07:17,206 --> 02:07:18,975
in the eye and in the nipple,

2662
02:07:19,000 --> 02:07:22,251
and it's extremely
graphic and close up,

2663
02:07:22,274 --> 02:07:24,457
but it has that ocular violence

2664
02:07:24,481 --> 02:07:26,216
that Fulci had
become famous for,

2665
02:07:26,240 --> 02:07:28,907
and he was trying
to outdo, it seems,

2666
02:07:28,930 --> 02:07:30,872
in every movie that he did.

2667
02:07:30,895 --> 02:07:32,699
It definitely pushed
the boundaries

2668
02:07:32,724 --> 02:07:34,389
of what was acceptable.

2669
02:07:34,412 --> 02:07:36,664
This film made sure
that in England,

2670
02:07:36,689 --> 02:07:38,148
if you were found with a copy,

2671
02:07:38,171 --> 02:07:39,631
you were definitely
having it seized,

2672
02:07:39,654 --> 02:07:41,378
and you would
probably be arrested.

2673
02:07:42,448 --> 02:07:43,425
Like a duck?

2674
02:07:43,448 --> 02:07:44,527
Quack, quack, quack.

2675
02:07:44,551 --> 02:07:45,792
Just like that.

2676
02:07:52,206 --> 02:07:53,586
"The Initiation".

2677
02:07:54,827 --> 02:07:56,216
The ceremony that
will never die,

2678
02:07:56,240 --> 02:07:58,699
as long as new blood is pledged.

2679
02:07:58,724 --> 02:08:00,975
I rented that movie
the very first time,

2680
02:08:01,000 --> 02:08:04,595
because I loved Daphne
Zuniga in "Spaceballs",

2681
02:08:04,619 --> 02:08:06,457
and it was right when
Melrose Place was hitting.

2682
02:08:06,481 --> 02:08:08,940
And we've got a
girl in a sorority,

2683
02:08:08,965 --> 02:08:11,274
she's being hazed.

2684
02:08:13,757 --> 02:08:16,181
Her character, Kelly, is
having these nightmares,

2685
02:08:16,206 --> 02:08:18,216
so she actually goes
through a sleep study

2686
02:08:18,240 --> 02:08:19,423
trying to figure out the reason

2687
02:08:19,448 --> 02:08:20,664
behind her nightmares.

2688
02:08:20,689 --> 02:08:22,734
It's fairly common for
the subconscious mind

2689
02:08:22,757 --> 02:08:25,493
to fictionalize certain
emotional states.

2690
02:08:25,516 --> 02:08:27,699
There's a woman
committing adultery

2691
02:08:27,724 --> 02:08:28,975
with another guy.

2692
02:08:29,000 --> 02:08:31,010
A little girl comes
in and catches them,

2693
02:08:31,033 --> 02:08:32,940
starts stabbing the
crap out of somebody,

2694
02:08:32,965 --> 02:08:34,802
and then the guy goes on fire,

2695
02:08:34,827 --> 02:08:37,078
and she can't
remember what happens.

2696
02:08:37,103 --> 02:08:38,802
I was in a coma
for three months,

2697
02:08:38,827 --> 02:08:40,664
and they kept me in this
private hospital in Chicago.

2698
02:08:40,689 --> 02:08:42,181
When I came out of
it, I had no memory.

2699
02:08:42,206 --> 02:08:44,457
Her father, who's
played by Clu Gulager,

2700
02:08:44,481 --> 02:08:46,872
owns this big shopping building,

2701
02:08:46,895 --> 02:08:49,561
and she's tasked
with breaking in

2702
02:08:49,586 --> 02:08:53,354
and stealing a night
porter's outfits.

2703
02:08:53,378 --> 02:08:56,206
Course, a lot of
bad things happen.

2704
02:09:02,412 --> 02:09:03,699
It is a movie that
takes a little time

2705
02:09:03,724 --> 02:09:05,699
to get going, but once
they get into that mall,

2706
02:09:05,724 --> 02:09:08,033
there's some really fun kills.

2707
02:09:12,378 --> 02:09:13,979
You're finding bodies
all over the place

2708
02:09:16,000 --> 02:09:18,792
The security guard is a bummer.

2709
02:09:23,206 --> 02:09:25,802
There's so many wacky out
there things in the 80s,

2710
02:09:25,827 --> 02:09:27,423
where I guess they
just tried things

2711
02:09:27,448 --> 02:09:28,965
more than we do now.

2712
02:09:30,103 --> 02:09:32,136
You know, it takes
some leaps and bounds.

2713
02:09:35,000 --> 02:09:37,734
Spoiler alert, there's
a twist at the end.

2714
02:09:37,757 --> 02:09:38,757
Peter!

2715
02:09:39,757 --> 02:09:41,527
And you're left
sitting there like,

2716
02:09:41,551 --> 02:09:43,930
wait, what is going on?

2717
02:09:45,792 --> 02:09:46,975
You have to rationalize
it to yourself

2718
02:09:47,000 --> 02:09:48,595
so that you can
move on and finish

2719
02:09:48,619 --> 02:09:49,837
the rest of the movie.

2720
02:09:49,862 --> 02:09:52,078
It's a total shock at the end.

2721
02:09:52,103 --> 02:09:53,423
I've never seen
anything like that

2722
02:09:53,448 --> 02:09:54,664
before in my life.

2723
02:09:54,689 --> 02:09:56,078
The more I think about
it, the more I think

2724
02:09:56,103 --> 02:09:57,895
they just wanted
to blow our minds.

2725
02:10:03,412 --> 02:10:05,792
Scared the shit out of them!

2726
02:10:11,448 --> 02:10:14,113
The only reason that they
would set horror movies

2727
02:10:14,136 --> 02:10:17,699
on holidays is that they
had no marketing budget.

2728
02:10:17,724 --> 02:10:21,354
So it was a way to get
attention from the press.

2729
02:10:21,378 --> 02:10:23,319
Most decisions made in the 80s

2730
02:10:23,344 --> 02:10:25,423
were strictly
financial decisions.

2731
02:10:25,448 --> 02:10:27,010
A present from the people

2732
02:10:27,033 --> 02:10:29,286
who brought you
"Friday the 13th"

2733
02:10:29,310 --> 02:10:32,344
now comes "Don't
Open Till Christmas".

2734
02:10:33,965 --> 02:10:36,561
"Don't Open Till
Christmas" is a real curio,

2735
02:10:36,586 --> 02:10:38,457
a slasher film set in the UK

2736
02:10:38,481 --> 02:10:41,078
about a killer who goes around

2737
02:10:41,103 --> 02:10:43,274
killing people in Santa suits.

2738
02:10:49,378 --> 02:10:50,975
It's almost like
Fulci directed this.

2739
02:10:51,000 --> 02:10:52,527
It's so grimy and slimy,

2740
02:10:52,551 --> 02:10:54,769
and as soon as you step
foot into an alley,

2741
02:10:54,792 --> 02:10:55,827
you're dead meat.

2742
02:10:59,171 --> 02:11:02,631
The reason for the serial
killer killing Santa Claus

2743
02:11:02,654 --> 02:11:06,216
is obviously some trauma
from when he was a kid.

2744
02:11:06,240 --> 02:11:08,699
And you see this in a
flashback streaked dream,

2745
02:11:08,724 --> 02:11:10,493
and he's just been,
for all these years,

2746
02:11:10,516 --> 02:11:13,654
hellbent on getting
revenge on Santa.

2747
02:11:14,895 --> 02:11:17,493
The department store,
you have this big, fat,

2748
02:11:17,516 --> 02:11:19,631
Santa Claus guy,
who's going around

2749
02:11:19,654 --> 02:11:21,699
and leering at all the girls.

2750
02:11:21,724 --> 02:11:22,631
And as soon as he
gets to the toilets,

2751
02:11:22,655 --> 02:11:24,103
you know what's gonna happen.

2752
02:11:25,516 --> 02:11:27,586
And it's just blood
squirting everywhere.

2753
02:11:32,654 --> 02:11:34,344
He gets his apt punishment.

2754
02:11:36,000 --> 02:11:37,769
Caroline Munroe turns
up in this film as well,

2755
02:11:37,792 --> 02:11:38,975
which was a surprise.

2756
02:11:39,000 --> 02:11:41,181
She's like a dancer in a club.

2757
02:11:41,206 --> 02:11:43,354
Man, that woman is beautiful.

2758
02:11:43,378 --> 02:11:46,033
If you blink, you're
gonna miss me in it.

2759
02:11:48,033 --> 02:11:49,734
George Dugdale, my husband,

2760
02:11:49,757 --> 02:11:52,975
he did the effects on
"Don't Open Till Christmas".

2761
02:11:53,000 --> 02:11:55,769
They got the Piccadilly
Theater in London.

2762
02:11:55,792 --> 02:11:57,940
I went in for about two hours,

2763
02:11:57,965 --> 02:12:00,907
on the thing, and I
wiggled about the stage,

2764
02:12:00,930 --> 02:12:02,837
and kind of sang
"Warrior of Love".

2765
02:12:02,862 --> 02:12:04,802
Basically, that's my bit in it.

2766
02:12:04,827 --> 02:12:07,148
♪ I'm the warrior of love

2767
02:12:07,171 --> 02:12:08,907
♪ Yes I am

2768
02:12:08,930 --> 02:12:10,975
Father Christmas appears,
and the trapdoor,

2769
02:12:11,000 --> 02:12:13,872
just as I'm mid-sing,
and so I react to him,

2770
02:12:13,895 --> 02:12:15,171
the Father Christmas dead.

2771
02:12:20,586 --> 02:12:22,802
Maybe they just needed
a bit of a filler.

2772
02:12:22,827 --> 02:12:25,286
Maybe they thought, oh we've
got five minutes to spare.

2773
02:12:25,310 --> 02:12:26,423
Bang her in.

2774
02:12:26,448 --> 02:12:28,136
♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah

2775
02:12:30,000 --> 02:12:30,942
A lot of Santas
die in this film,

2776
02:12:30,966 --> 02:12:32,975
so if you are into horror movies

2777
02:12:33,000 --> 02:12:35,802
for the festive body count,
then this is the one.

2778
02:12:35,827 --> 02:12:37,551
There's a party going on!

2779
02:12:39,000 --> 02:12:40,757
Look, there's
no party here, mate.

2780
02:12:48,930 --> 02:12:51,595
I wasn't allowed to
watch horror movies

2781
02:12:51,619 --> 02:12:56,216
or sci-fi movies when
I was little.

2782
02:12:56,240 --> 02:12:58,907
Because I was too sensitive.

2783
02:12:58,930 --> 02:13:01,975
I was older when I
saw "The Exorcist".

2784
02:13:02,000 --> 02:13:05,457
That was the most frightening
movie I've ever seen.

2785
02:13:05,481 --> 02:13:07,457
I felt it could really happen.

2786
02:13:07,481 --> 02:13:10,043
This study of the human psyche

2787
02:13:10,068 --> 02:13:13,837
has always been
prevalent in my work,

2788
02:13:13,862 --> 02:13:15,895
and in why I want to work.

2789
02:13:18,000 --> 02:13:20,802
My whole method
is the less I know

2790
02:13:20,827 --> 02:13:25,586
what's gonna happen, the more
alive in the moment I am.

2791
02:13:27,000 --> 02:13:30,699
The most memorable scene
in "The Hills Have Eyes"

2792
02:13:30,724 --> 02:13:34,389
with Wes was when I had to
work with the tarantula.

2793
02:13:34,412 --> 02:13:37,664
They assured me that
it couldn't hurt me.

2794
02:13:37,689 --> 02:13:42,113
Afterwards, I found out that
oh yeah, it could've.

2795
02:13:42,136 --> 02:13:44,181
And I said Wes, I'm scared.

2796
02:13:44,206 --> 02:13:46,802
And he said, will you trust me,

2797
02:13:46,827 --> 02:13:50,286
that I will make sure
that everything is handled

2798
02:13:50,310 --> 02:13:51,378
so that you're safe?

2799
02:13:53,654 --> 02:13:55,423
And that's just who Wes was.

2800
02:13:55,448 --> 02:13:56,448
You did.

2801
02:13:58,792 --> 02:14:02,734
To me, "The Howling" was
the battle of good and evil,

2802
02:14:02,757 --> 02:14:05,286
which goes on within all of us.

2803
02:14:05,310 --> 02:14:08,457
There was so much
in "The Howling"

2804
02:14:08,481 --> 02:14:13,481
that elevated that film,
because of Joe Dante.

2805
02:14:14,689 --> 02:14:16,872
Joe brings more of who
he is into his films,

2806
02:14:16,895 --> 02:14:20,216
because Joe is very funny.

2807
02:14:20,240 --> 02:14:23,734
And he always finds a way

2808
02:14:23,757 --> 02:14:25,631
to bring that humor,

2809
02:14:25,654 --> 02:14:27,595
even if it's dark humor,

2810
02:14:27,619 --> 02:14:29,757
into his projects.

2811
02:14:33,792 --> 02:14:37,802
"Cujo" was always about
what a mother would do

2812
02:14:37,827 --> 02:14:38,975
for her child.

2813
02:14:39,000 --> 02:14:41,699
It was never a
horror film to me.

2814
02:14:41,724 --> 02:14:45,802
It was a statement of
how far a mother would go

2815
02:14:45,827 --> 02:14:47,907
to keep her kid safe.

2816
02:14:47,930 --> 02:14:50,586
It's not a monster,
it's just a doggie.

2817
02:14:52,654 --> 02:14:54,319
I've heard from so many people,

2818
02:14:54,344 --> 02:14:56,664
I watched it when I was younger,

2819
02:14:56,689 --> 02:14:57,872
and it was a horror film.

2820
02:14:57,895 --> 02:15:00,216
I watch it now
after I have kids,

2821
02:15:00,240 --> 02:15:03,310
it's a whole different film.

2822
02:15:06,654 --> 02:15:09,251
My father was a
severe alcoholic.

2823
02:15:09,274 --> 02:15:14,043
So for most practical
purposes, I had a single mom.

2824
02:15:14,068 --> 02:15:15,975
And she was a strong mom.

2825
02:15:16,000 --> 02:15:19,769
And I had a strong grandma
that helped raise me.

2826
02:15:19,792 --> 02:15:23,940
So I had some really
good personal material

2827
02:15:23,965 --> 02:15:25,310
to call on.

2828
02:15:29,895 --> 02:15:32,664
There were nine dogs
that played Cujo.

2829
02:15:32,689 --> 02:15:35,975
Two black labs that
could fit in a dog suit

2830
02:15:36,000 --> 02:15:39,619
if we needed it, and a
stuntman in the dog suit.

2831
02:15:41,551 --> 02:15:44,354
The dogs were all
trained to go after toys,

2832
02:15:44,378 --> 02:15:47,975
and we had to tie their
tails down with fish wire,

2833
02:15:48,000 --> 02:15:50,619
because they were
having so much fun.

2834
02:15:52,930 --> 02:15:56,527
Stephen King is the
sweetest, kinda shy,

2835
02:15:56,551 --> 02:15:58,699
very gentle man.

2836
02:15:58,724 --> 02:16:00,457
When he came on
the set of "Cujo",

2837
02:16:00,481 --> 02:16:05,078
I went, where does it come from?

2838
02:16:05,103 --> 02:16:07,000
And he just started laughing.

2839
02:16:08,930 --> 02:16:13,930
After "E.T.", I was
plagued with mother parts.

2840
02:16:15,103 --> 02:16:16,769
It's not that I don't
want to play mothers,

2841
02:16:16,792 --> 02:16:19,802
I just want to play everything.

2842
02:16:19,827 --> 02:16:22,802
Dear god, I probably
have 800 roles

2843
02:16:22,827 --> 02:16:24,113
of every kind of mom.

2844
02:16:24,136 --> 02:16:27,354
Psycho mom, sweet
mom, drugged mom,

2845
02:16:27,378 --> 02:16:30,113
killer mom, hooker mom.

2846
02:16:30,136 --> 02:16:31,171
Everything!

2847
02:16:32,206 --> 02:16:33,011
No!

2848
02:16:33,034 --> 02:16:34,251
No!

2849
02:16:34,274 --> 02:16:38,896
No, no!

2850
02:16:40,274 --> 02:16:42,182
It was almost like poetry
to me, "Shadow Play".

2851
02:16:42,206 --> 02:16:45,724
And I wanted desperately to
work with Cloris Leachman.

2852
02:16:47,067 --> 02:16:52,067
I had to do that very
artsy dream nude scene,

2853
02:16:53,206 --> 02:16:54,765
and my husband was
not happy about that.

2854
02:16:55,965 --> 02:16:58,769
I don't think I've ever
told this story before.

2855
02:16:58,792 --> 02:17:00,206
He called me, and he said

2856
02:17:01,448 --> 02:17:03,424
if you do that scene tomorrow,

2857
02:17:03,448 --> 02:17:05,182
I think we're done.

2858
02:17:05,206 --> 02:17:09,527
I said Chris, don't make
me make that choice.

2859
02:17:09,550 --> 02:17:13,493
We got my therapist on
the phone at three a.m.

2860
02:17:13,516 --> 02:17:15,630
in the morning, and
we worked it out

2861
02:17:15,655 --> 02:17:18,700
that what was
really bothering him

2862
02:17:18,724 --> 02:17:21,906
was that he would have
to wait all those months

2863
02:17:21,931 --> 02:17:23,769
wondering what happened.

2864
02:17:23,792 --> 02:17:27,147
And if the director would
agree to show him the dailies,

2865
02:17:27,172 --> 02:17:28,354
he would be okay.

2866
02:17:28,379 --> 02:17:31,319
Now, this is pretty
funny coming from a guy

2867
02:17:31,343 --> 02:17:35,217
who had a huge naked love
scene in "The Howling",

2868
02:17:35,240 --> 02:17:37,871
and he expected me to
be just fine with it,

2869
02:17:37,896 --> 02:17:39,448
thank you very much.

2870
02:17:40,448 --> 02:17:41,595
But, you know.

2871
02:17:41,620 --> 02:17:45,343
That's a man for you.

2872
02:18:01,655 --> 02:18:02,976
Rubin Galindo Jr.

2873
02:18:03,000 --> 02:18:04,182
He's awesome!

2874
02:18:04,206 --> 02:18:06,871
Rubin has an amazing
lineup of movies,

2875
02:18:06,896 --> 02:18:09,137
and he really made
a stamp in the 80s.

2876
02:18:10,309 --> 02:18:14,274
Rubin,

2877
02:18:20,724 --> 02:18:23,595
The difference between
the Mexican horror films,

2878
02:18:23,620 --> 02:18:25,217
and international horror films,

2879
02:18:25,240 --> 02:18:29,286
we like to mix a little
bit of spirituality,

2880
02:18:29,309 --> 02:18:32,388
and to let some
things to the unknown.

2881
02:18:32,413 --> 02:18:35,137
We don't tend to try to explain.

2882
02:18:37,516 --> 02:18:39,871
My dad did Luchador films,

2883
02:18:39,896 --> 02:18:41,251
with monsters films.

2884
02:18:41,274 --> 02:18:43,665
"El Santo Contra Los
Asesinos De Ostros Mundos".

2885
02:18:43,689 --> 02:18:47,240
The saint against killers
from other worlds.

2886
02:18:50,309 --> 02:18:51,931
It's beautiful.

2887
02:18:57,000 --> 02:18:58,458
Michael Jackson's "Thriller".

2888
02:18:58,481 --> 02:19:00,388
That struck me hard,

2889
02:19:00,413 --> 02:19:03,112
and then one day,
my dad told me,

2890
02:19:03,137 --> 02:19:04,871
would you think it's a good idea

2891
02:19:04,896 --> 02:19:07,182
to make a film like Michael
Jackson's "Thriller"?

2892
02:19:07,206 --> 02:19:08,217
I said, yes!

2893
02:19:08,240 --> 02:19:09,424
It's a great idea!

2894
02:19:09,448 --> 02:19:10,585
I wanna do that!

2895
02:19:15,309 --> 02:19:16,561
It's a bunch of teenagers,

2896
02:19:16,585 --> 02:19:18,286
they wanna have
fun in Halloween.

2897
02:19:18,309 --> 02:19:20,976
They go to the morgue,
they steal a corpse,

2898
02:19:21,000 --> 02:19:24,481
and they pretend to
do a demonic ritual.

2899
02:19:26,861 --> 02:19:29,585
They woke up the
demon inside, Devlon,

2900
02:19:31,000 --> 02:19:32,792
who was a killer.

2901
02:19:40,481 --> 02:19:43,837
And all of the sudden,
Michael Jackson's "Thriller".

2902
02:19:43,861 --> 02:19:46,000
Pops out of the tombs.

2903
02:19:48,033 --> 02:19:51,734
I felt very compromised
with the budget.

2904
02:19:51,757 --> 02:19:53,689
I had a hard time.

2905
02:19:56,172 --> 02:19:57,976
The lousiest effect of all

2906
02:19:58,000 --> 02:20:00,630
is when the guy that
was taking a leak,

2907
02:20:00,655 --> 02:20:03,837
Alonso Garcia, finds
the girl lying all dead

2908
02:20:03,861 --> 02:20:05,217
with blood all over her,

2909
02:20:05,240 --> 02:20:08,251
and then there is a flying ax

2910
02:20:08,274 --> 02:20:09,896
that hits him in the face.

2911
02:20:11,067 --> 02:20:14,871
You could see that the
ax had a metal pole.

2912
02:20:14,896 --> 02:20:16,976
I wasn't looking
through the camera,

2913
02:20:17,000 --> 02:20:20,000
because I was playing the ax.

2914
02:20:21,585 --> 02:20:22,802
I think that's the charm.

2915
02:20:22,826 --> 02:20:25,493
It's kind of looking
at a kitsch art,

2916
02:20:25,516 --> 02:20:26,837
when you see a horror film

2917
02:20:26,861 --> 02:20:29,078
that was done with
such a low budget,

2918
02:20:29,102 --> 02:20:31,493
it's looking at like
an Ed Wood film.

2919
02:20:31,516 --> 02:20:33,182
The only guy that
believes in the film

2920
02:20:33,206 --> 02:20:36,343
is the director.

2921
02:20:46,240 --> 02:20:48,424
It's hard to say
what kind of influence

2922
02:20:48,448 --> 02:20:50,286
Stephen King had on movies,

2923
02:20:50,309 --> 02:20:52,906
because of so many
directors attempted

2924
02:20:52,931 --> 02:20:55,871
so many different kinds
of film, it's hard to say.

2925
02:20:55,896 --> 02:20:57,527
It depends on how
well done they are.

2926
02:20:57,550 --> 02:20:59,826
I know Stephen
King loves "Cujo".

2927
02:21:01,931 --> 02:21:05,000
Stephen King's "Cat's Eye".

2928
02:21:06,413 --> 02:21:08,493
Capitalizing on the
popularity of "Creepshow'",

2929
02:21:08,516 --> 02:21:10,354
and Stephen King in general,

2930
02:21:10,379 --> 02:21:11,976
the studios decided
they should make

2931
02:21:12,000 --> 02:21:13,941
another horror anthology,

2932
02:21:13,965 --> 02:21:16,769
and that's how we
got "Cat's Eye".

2933
02:21:16,792 --> 02:21:19,354
"Cat's Eye" is by Lewis Teague.

2934
02:21:19,379 --> 02:21:21,665
He'd done "Cujo" at the time.

2935
02:21:21,689 --> 02:21:24,251
It is also co-produced
by Milton Subotsky,

2936
02:21:24,274 --> 02:21:26,550
who was kind of the king
of anthology horror.

2937
02:21:27,965 --> 02:21:29,595
He's the guy who produced
Tales From the Crypt,

2938
02:21:29,620 --> 02:21:32,620
and Dr. Terror's House
of Horrors, and Asylum.

2939
02:21:33,757 --> 02:21:36,217
"Cat's Eye" is three stories,

2940
02:21:36,240 --> 02:21:37,906
two of which are taken
from Stephen King's

2941
02:21:37,931 --> 02:21:40,354
short story book, "Night Shift".

2942
02:21:40,379 --> 02:21:42,286
Watch for the "Cujo" and
"Christine" references

2943
02:21:42,309 --> 02:21:43,309
in the beginning.

2944
02:21:44,585 --> 02:21:46,734
The first segment is called
"Quitters Incorporated",

2945
02:21:46,757 --> 02:21:49,010
and it stars James Woods
as a guy who's trying

2946
02:21:49,033 --> 02:21:51,319
to quit smoking, and the
problem is what they do

2947
02:21:51,343 --> 02:21:55,137
to get you to quit smoking
is incredibly extreme.

2948
02:22:01,033 --> 02:22:03,010
The second segment
is "The Ledge".

2949
02:22:03,033 --> 02:22:04,493
This is about a rich guy played

2950
02:22:04,516 --> 02:22:05,561
by Kenneth McMillan,

2951
02:22:05,585 --> 02:22:07,078
who discovers that Robert Hayes

2952
02:22:07,102 --> 02:22:09,527
has been sleeping with his wife.

2953
02:22:09,550 --> 02:22:10,906
He tells him that if he makes it

2954
02:22:10,931 --> 02:22:13,388
all the way around the
building on this ledge,

2955
02:22:13,413 --> 02:22:15,837
that he can leave
and take his wife.

2956
02:22:15,861 --> 02:22:17,343
Boogie, boogie, boogie!

2957
02:22:19,137 --> 02:22:20,354
You bastard!

2958
02:22:20,379 --> 02:22:22,067
I just wanna keep
you on your toes!

2959
02:22:23,240 --> 02:22:24,458
The third story was more or less

2960
02:22:24,481 --> 02:22:26,319
how the whole thing came about.

2961
02:22:26,343 --> 02:22:29,493
Producer Dino De Laurentiis
contacted Stephen King

2962
02:22:29,516 --> 02:22:31,319
and told him he wanted
him to write a story

2963
02:22:31,343 --> 02:22:33,941
specifically for Drew Barrymore,

2964
02:22:33,965 --> 02:22:36,458
because they had just worked
together on "Firestarter".

2965
02:22:36,481 --> 02:22:38,976
He wrote the script
in less than 24 hours.

2966
02:22:39,000 --> 02:22:42,976
Help me!

2967
02:22:43,000 --> 02:22:45,976
The movie's tied together
with this cat, The General,

2968
02:22:46,000 --> 02:22:48,493
who's on his way to try
to protect Drew Barrymore

2969
02:22:48,516 --> 02:22:50,931
from a troll that's
living in her walls.

2970
02:22:55,826 --> 02:22:57,286
The troll's trying to
kill the little girl

2971
02:22:57,309 --> 02:22:59,655
by stealing her breath
while she sleeps.

2972
02:23:01,620 --> 02:23:03,665
Carlo Rambaldi
created the creature,

2973
02:23:03,689 --> 02:23:05,527
and it is very realistic.

2974
02:23:05,550 --> 02:23:08,769
The troll was a little
person in a suit.

2975
02:23:08,792 --> 02:23:11,630
They're doing puppetry, they're
doing forced perspective.

2976
02:23:11,655 --> 02:23:13,112
It's fantastic.

2977
02:23:13,137 --> 02:23:15,700
The movie actually is in the
Guinness Book of World Records

2978
02:23:15,724 --> 02:23:18,043
for making the
world's largest bed,

2979
02:23:18,067 --> 02:23:20,689
and the world's largest pillows.

2980
02:23:22,033 --> 02:23:23,976
I love how the record
player comes into play

2981
02:23:24,000 --> 02:23:25,700
with this segment.

2982
02:23:25,724 --> 02:23:27,309
Watch out!

2983
02:23:30,965 --> 02:23:32,458
Anthologies are
kinda hit or miss,

2984
02:23:32,481 --> 02:23:35,700
but with this, I think all
three segments are strong,

2985
02:23:35,724 --> 02:23:39,000
with the last one, "The
General", being the strongest.

2986
02:23:40,550 --> 02:23:43,286
Anytime you have a movie
where a cat is a hero,

2987
02:23:43,309 --> 02:23:44,689
I am in.

2988
02:23:59,206 --> 02:24:00,941
"Phenomena", from Dario Argento

2989
02:24:00,965 --> 02:24:04,493
is another sort of wildly
weird movie in itself.

2990
02:24:04,516 --> 02:24:05,976
When I first saw it,
I actually saw it

2991
02:24:06,000 --> 02:24:07,251
as "The Creepers" version.

2992
02:24:07,274 --> 02:24:09,388
There's actually three
versions of the film.

2993
02:24:09,413 --> 02:24:11,424
"Phenomena" follows
Jennifer Connelly,

2994
02:24:11,448 --> 02:24:13,734
who's a young student
studying abroad,

2995
02:24:13,757 --> 02:24:17,251
who basically has a
psychic connection

2996
02:24:17,274 --> 02:24:18,630
with bugs, of all things,

2997
02:24:18,655 --> 02:24:21,217
and she comes across
Donald Pleasant,

2998
02:24:21,240 --> 02:24:24,458
who's an entomologist
that works with bugs

2999
02:24:24,481 --> 02:24:26,941
in a means to help solve crimes.

3000
02:24:26,965 --> 02:24:29,734
It is just like, is Argento
kind of of woke up one day,

3001
02:24:29,757 --> 02:24:32,424
and was picking
motifs out of a hat,

3002
02:24:32,448 --> 02:24:33,871
and was like,
here's "Phenomena",

3003
02:24:33,896 --> 02:24:35,561
but yet somehow it all works,

3004
02:24:35,585 --> 02:24:37,182
and I think a lot
of credit is due

3005
02:24:37,206 --> 02:24:39,147
to Jennifer Connolly's
performance.

3006
02:24:39,172 --> 02:24:40,010
Don't touch it!

3007
02:24:40,033 --> 02:24:40,941
Stop yelling!

3008
02:24:40,965 --> 02:24:41,802
It's a bee!

3009
02:24:41,826 --> 02:24:42,631
I know.

3010
02:24:42,656 --> 02:24:44,630
It won't hurt me.

3011
02:24:44,655 --> 02:24:46,182
Insects never hurt me.

3012
02:24:46,206 --> 02:24:48,941
Donald Pleasant is
always a welcome addition

3013
02:24:48,965 --> 02:24:50,424
to any cast.

3014
02:24:50,448 --> 02:24:52,585
You're in a position to
do extraordinary things

3015
02:24:53,931 --> 02:24:55,354
with that gift of yours.

3016
02:24:55,379 --> 02:24:57,976
Daria Nicolodi, who had worked
so many times with Argento.

3017
02:24:58,000 --> 02:24:59,319
It's one of the first instances

3018
02:24:59,343 --> 02:25:01,837
I can remember her being
a villain in a movie.

3019
02:25:01,861 --> 02:25:04,067
And she's so great in it.

3020
02:25:08,689 --> 02:25:10,182
Inga is the chimpanzee,

3021
02:25:10,206 --> 02:25:13,354
who is the assistant to
McGreggor in the movie.

3022
02:25:13,379 --> 02:25:15,595
And she is a delight.

3023
02:25:15,620 --> 02:25:16,906
Early on in the
movie, there's a point

3024
02:25:16,931 --> 02:25:18,182
where she's playing
with a scalpel,

3025
02:25:18,206 --> 02:25:19,941
and he's like, Inga.

3026
02:25:19,965 --> 02:25:21,388
I don't want you ever,

3027
02:25:21,413 --> 02:25:24,689
I don't want you ever, ever
playing with this again.

3028
02:25:26,137 --> 02:25:28,217
That moment has a payoff
in the end that I won't ruin.

3029
02:25:28,240 --> 02:25:31,689
But Inga actually becomes your
favorite part of the movie.

3030
02:25:33,379 --> 02:25:34,941
The "Phenomena" soundtrack
is a lot of fun,

3031
02:25:34,965 --> 02:25:38,147
because it marries contemporary
music of that time,

3032
02:25:38,172 --> 02:25:39,871
especially heavy metal music,

3033
02:25:39,896 --> 02:25:43,413
with these traditional
score from Goblin.

3034
02:25:50,343 --> 02:25:52,217
It's really interesting
that it's specifically

3035
02:25:52,240 --> 02:25:56,527
in "Phenomena" that Argenta
would use heavy metal music

3036
02:25:56,550 --> 02:26:01,550
in these weird ways that
shouldn't work, and yet it does.

3037
02:26:02,757 --> 02:26:04,286
♪ The smell of
resigned leather ♪

3038
02:26:04,309 --> 02:26:06,319
♪ The sticky iron mask

3039
02:26:06,343 --> 02:26:07,561
♪ As you cut and thrust

3040
02:26:07,585 --> 02:26:08,802
♪ And parried at the fencing

3041
02:26:08,826 --> 02:26:10,665
Particularly during
the kill scenes.

3042
02:26:10,689 --> 02:26:12,493
It actually heightens
the tensions,

3043
02:26:12,516 --> 02:26:13,976
in those scenes in particular,

3044
02:26:14,000 --> 02:26:16,388
and makes them play in
a very different way

3045
02:26:16,413 --> 02:26:17,769
than I think you see
contemporary music

3046
02:26:17,792 --> 02:26:19,516
played in American horror.

3047
02:26:30,240 --> 02:26:31,700
What you love is the feeling

3048
02:26:31,724 --> 02:26:33,931
when you're stomping out life.

3049
02:26:35,137 --> 02:26:37,976
"The Doctor and the Devils".

3050
02:26:38,000 --> 02:26:39,388
"The Doctor and the Devils",

3051
02:26:39,413 --> 02:26:42,665
this is a classic British
gothic horror story.

3052
02:26:42,689 --> 02:26:45,286
Quite lavish, quite
beautiful to look at.

3053
02:26:45,309 --> 02:26:49,458
What now would they be
doing for a living, lovey?

3054
02:26:49,481 --> 02:26:51,043
Grave robbers.

3055
02:26:51,067 --> 02:26:52,769
It's definitely one
that seems to be missed

3056
02:26:52,792 --> 02:26:55,010
off a lot of lists of
best British horror films.

3057
02:26:55,033 --> 02:26:56,354
Before we disturbed his sleep.

3058
02:26:56,379 --> 02:26:58,630
It's crawling with maggots.

3059
02:26:58,655 --> 02:27:00,493
I need fresh subjects.

3060
02:27:00,516 --> 02:27:02,078
Specimens that I can teach with.

3061
02:27:02,102 --> 02:27:04,319
This is, in fact, a decent movie

3062
02:27:04,343 --> 02:27:06,630
with a great cast,
and a good story.

3063
02:27:06,655 --> 02:27:07,965
And I believe that that end

3064
02:27:08,896 --> 02:27:11,000
justifies any means.

3065
02:27:13,620 --> 02:27:17,147
And it stars some amazing
British actors and actresses.

3066
02:27:17,172 --> 02:27:19,182
Dr. Rock needs fresh bodies.

3067
02:27:19,206 --> 02:27:20,217
Could we pay them, sir?

3068
02:27:20,240 --> 02:27:21,665
Only half.

3069
02:27:21,689 --> 02:27:24,769
Julien Sands, Jonathan
Pryce, Stephen Rea and Twiggy.

3070
02:27:24,792 --> 02:27:27,595
It was amazing to see
Timothy Dalton in it.

3071
02:27:27,620 --> 02:27:29,931
We're scientists, not moralists.

3072
02:27:30,792 --> 02:27:32,493
I need bodies.

3073
02:27:32,516 --> 02:27:33,941
They're not called
Burke and Hare,

3074
02:27:33,965 --> 02:27:35,764
but they're kind of
analogs of Burke and Hare.

3075
02:27:36,343 --> 02:27:38,354
Quiet as death tonight.

3076
02:27:38,379 --> 02:27:39,595
Praise be the Lord.

3077
02:27:39,620 --> 02:27:40,871
For those that don't
know, Burke and Hare

3078
02:27:40,896 --> 02:27:43,424
is the story of
two grave robbers

3079
02:27:43,448 --> 02:27:44,769
who used to steal dead bodies.

3080
02:27:44,792 --> 02:27:46,010
And it's a true story.

3081
02:27:46,033 --> 02:27:48,010
Steal dead bodies and
sell them for profit.

3082
02:27:48,033 --> 02:27:49,527
And when the dead
bodies run out,

3083
02:27:49,550 --> 02:27:51,976
they start killing
actual alive people,

3084
02:27:52,000 --> 02:27:53,561
and selling them on.

3085
02:27:53,585 --> 02:27:56,000
Quite the benefactors, the dead.

3086
02:27:57,413 --> 02:27:59,906
Their story kind of spins
out on the head a little bit.

3087
02:27:59,931 --> 02:28:02,251
Put them out of their
misery, Mr. Fallon!

3088
02:28:02,274 --> 02:28:03,769
That's what the
major said to me.

3089
02:28:03,792 --> 02:28:05,837
Pryce, quite unhinged in
the characters he does play,

3090
02:28:05,861 --> 02:28:07,871
and he looks evil, as well.

3091
02:28:07,896 --> 02:28:08,896
Fresh, Broom.

3092
02:28:09,724 --> 02:28:11,033
Fresh as new moon here.

3093
02:28:12,379 --> 02:28:14,458
This film was directed
by Freddie Francis,

3094
02:28:14,481 --> 02:28:16,493
who you may know made his start

3095
02:28:16,516 --> 02:28:18,354
with Amicus and Hammer,

3096
02:28:18,379 --> 02:28:20,976
doing some great
gothic horror for them.

3097
02:28:21,000 --> 02:28:22,734
And this is kind of a
continuation of that.

3098
02:28:22,757 --> 02:28:24,700
And you can see a lot
of the things he learned

3099
02:28:24,724 --> 02:28:26,112
with Amicus and Hammer,

3100
02:28:26,137 --> 02:28:29,665
the kind of level of detail
in the period pieces,

3101
02:28:29,689 --> 02:28:31,941
in the architecture,
in the costumes.

3102
02:28:31,965 --> 02:28:33,388
And that kind of gothic horror,

3103
02:28:33,413 --> 02:28:36,286
where you don't necessarily
need to see the killing.

3104
02:28:36,309 --> 02:28:39,354
Fresh bodies, fresh
bodies, fresh bodies.

3105
02:28:39,379 --> 02:28:41,217
You may just see a
shadow on the wall,

3106
02:28:41,240 --> 02:28:43,458
or the aftermath, just
that beautiful girl's

3107
02:28:43,481 --> 02:28:44,481
blood on her mouth.

3108
02:28:46,274 --> 02:28:48,182
The ultimate message in
"The Doctor and the Devils"

3109
02:28:48,206 --> 02:28:50,458
is if you want something
done, do it yourself.

3110
02:28:50,481 --> 02:28:51,941
But it's really well-done,

3111
02:28:51,965 --> 02:28:54,043
and I was actually surprised
how well this holds up.

3112
02:28:54,067 --> 02:28:56,561
This city has a
heart of goodness.

3113
02:28:56,585 --> 02:28:59,033
And the bowels of squalor.

3114
02:29:04,620 --> 02:29:05,769
For a good time, call-

3115
02:29:05,792 --> 02:29:08,550
"Transylvania 6-5000".

3116
02:29:09,585 --> 02:29:11,354
Is good, huh?

3117
02:29:11,379 --> 02:29:14,769
"Transylvania 6-5000" is
an incredibly underrated

3118
02:29:14,792 --> 02:29:17,976
horror comedy, or should
I say comedy horror,

3119
02:29:18,000 --> 02:29:19,388
from the 80s.

3120
02:29:19,413 --> 02:29:22,286
It's got a lot of
really fun moments.

3121
02:29:22,309 --> 02:29:24,354
And the whole movie
just has this uplifting

3122
02:29:24,379 --> 02:29:26,493
jovial feeling to it.

3123
02:29:26,516 --> 02:29:27,700
Ah, Radu.

3124
02:29:27,724 --> 02:29:29,112
Yes, master?

3125
02:29:29,137 --> 02:29:30,458
Everybody involved
looks like they're having

3126
02:29:30,481 --> 02:29:31,871
an absolute blast.

3127
02:29:31,896 --> 02:29:35,010
You've got Ed Begley
Jr., Jeff Goldblum.

3128
02:29:35,033 --> 02:29:36,217
Every time I give you-

3129
02:29:36,240 --> 02:29:37,769
Two reporters
from a rag newspaper

3130
02:29:37,792 --> 02:29:40,630
are headed to Transylvania
to try to find Frankenstein.

3131
02:29:40,655 --> 02:29:43,700
So I'm counting on you guys
for a Frankenstein story.

3132
02:29:43,724 --> 02:29:45,802
I'm sorry, you're counting
on us for a what story?

3133
02:29:45,826 --> 02:29:47,837
My favorite part is
when they first arrive

3134
02:29:47,861 --> 02:29:51,527
in Transylvania, and they
ask a point blank question,

3135
02:29:51,550 --> 02:29:53,976
hey, where can we
find Frankenstein.

3136
02:29:54,000 --> 02:29:56,379
Frankenstein, you know
Frankenstein don't you?

3137
02:29:57,309 --> 02:29:58,079
Frankenstein?

3138
02:29:58,103 --> 02:29:59,112
Yes, the monster.

3139
02:29:59,137 --> 02:30:00,388
Ah.

3140
02:30:00,413 --> 02:30:01,734
Instead of just
laughing them off,

3141
02:30:01,757 --> 02:30:04,906
they drag it off
and humiliate them.

3142
02:30:04,931 --> 02:30:06,388
And then they get the
mayor to come out,

3143
02:30:06,413 --> 02:30:08,286
played by Jeffrey Jones,

3144
02:30:08,309 --> 02:30:10,527
and with the straightest
face possible,

3145
02:30:10,550 --> 02:30:14,724
says gentlemen, we're
in Transylvania.

3146
02:30:15,931 --> 02:30:18,274
Don't you want to
ask us about Dracula?

3147
02:30:19,757 --> 02:30:21,861
And then just
bursts out laughing.

3148
02:30:23,067 --> 02:30:23,977
I've got Godzilla
in the back room.

3149
02:30:24,001 --> 02:30:25,837
I like it, it's a good one.

3150
02:30:25,861 --> 02:30:27,172
How about the Blob?

3151
02:30:28,379 --> 02:30:29,734
It wouldn't be much
of a monster movie

3152
02:30:29,757 --> 02:30:32,665
without the monsters
actually showing up.

3153
02:30:32,689 --> 02:30:35,424
You got the mummy, a
Frankenstein monster,

3154
02:30:35,448 --> 02:30:38,147
a werewolf who looks
like Chewbacca.

3155
02:30:38,172 --> 02:30:39,837
Geena Davis as a vampire.

3156
02:30:39,861 --> 02:30:41,734
And then there's Kramer,
Michael Richards,

3157
02:30:41,757 --> 02:30:43,861
playing an Igor type.

3158
02:30:45,655 --> 02:30:46,734
Is good, huh?

3159
02:30:46,757 --> 02:30:47,871
Is funny!

3160
02:30:47,896 --> 02:30:49,493
Wearing funny goggles,

3161
02:30:49,516 --> 02:30:52,182
riding a mechanical
animal in a closet,

3162
02:30:52,206 --> 02:30:54,000
and slipping on banana peels.

3163
02:30:55,102 --> 02:30:57,319
Look, it's a
beautiful day today!

3164
02:30:57,343 --> 02:30:58,217
Whoa!

3165
02:30:58,240 --> 02:30:58,977
- Hey, hey!
- Oh!

3166
02:30:59,001 --> 02:31:00,527
Are you okay?

3167
02:31:00,550 --> 02:31:01,802
This one would make for
a wonderful double feature

3168
02:31:01,826 --> 02:31:03,388
with "Saturday the 14th".

3169
02:31:03,413 --> 02:31:06,067
They both have the same
kind of sophomoric humor.

3170
02:31:09,724 --> 02:31:11,448
And fun creature effects.

3171
02:31:28,896 --> 02:31:30,976
"Guinea Pig:
Devil's Experiment".

3172
02:31:31,000 --> 02:31:32,493
This is a found footage movie

3173
02:31:32,516 --> 02:31:34,286
in the faux documentary style.

3174
02:31:34,309 --> 02:31:37,078
It has title cards,
has an end card,

3175
02:31:37,102 --> 02:31:39,655
it's separated
into acts, almost.

3176
02:31:41,448 --> 02:31:44,217
It is about three guys
abusing this woman

3177
02:31:44,240 --> 02:31:47,724
in sequentially horrible ways.

3178
02:31:49,931 --> 02:31:52,630
And is absolutely gruesome.

3179
02:31:52,655 --> 02:31:54,769
And really effective,
because it's done in a way

3180
02:31:54,792 --> 02:31:57,734
where it does feel
the closest you'll see

3181
02:31:57,757 --> 02:31:59,458
to seeing a snuff movie.

3182
02:31:59,481 --> 02:32:01,976
It was made by Satoru Ogura,

3183
02:32:02,000 --> 02:32:03,976
who wrote and
directed it in 1985.

3184
02:32:04,000 --> 02:32:05,561
And the effects are inventive,

3185
02:32:05,585 --> 02:32:07,112
but it's not something
you can just sit down

3186
02:32:07,137 --> 02:32:08,871
with a packet of
crisps and eat it,

3187
02:32:08,896 --> 02:32:10,871
because you'll be
so grossed out.

3188
02:32:10,896 --> 02:32:12,458
It's a really interesting movie

3189
02:32:12,481 --> 02:32:15,286
that I wouldn't recommend
to too many people,

3190
02:32:15,309 --> 02:32:18,769
but I will say, the
sequels get more and more

3191
02:32:18,792 --> 02:32:20,319
and more interesting.

3192
02:32:20,343 --> 02:32:22,976
I am absolutely obsessed

3193
02:32:23,000 --> 02:32:25,493
by "Guinea Pig 5:
Mermaid in a Manhole".

3194
02:32:25,516 --> 02:32:27,837
That movie manages to
keep the grossness,

3195
02:32:27,861 --> 02:32:31,078
but add a really
heartfelt story in it.

3196
02:32:31,102 --> 02:32:33,871
In the first one, there was
absolutely no redemption

3197
02:32:33,896 --> 02:32:35,217
for these characters.

3198
02:32:35,240 --> 02:32:37,976
But in the later ones,
they give the characters

3199
02:32:38,000 --> 02:32:40,424
a little bit more
layers to them.

3200
02:32:40,448 --> 02:32:42,527
But they're still
doing the wrong things.

3201
02:32:42,550 --> 02:32:43,976
Women still end up dying,

3202
02:32:44,000 --> 02:32:46,251
people still end
up being tortured,

3203
02:32:46,274 --> 02:32:48,458
and even in my favorite
moment in "The Manhole",

3204
02:32:48,481 --> 02:32:49,941
he thinks he's doing
the right thing

3205
02:32:49,965 --> 02:32:52,112
by saving this
mermaid in the sewer,

3206
02:32:52,137 --> 02:32:54,769
but he is effectively
taken her out of her home,

3207
02:32:54,792 --> 02:32:57,102
and is slowly killing
her for the sake of art.

3208
02:32:58,516 --> 02:33:01,112
These "Guinea Pig" movies
are kind of notorious

3209
02:33:01,137 --> 02:33:03,527
as being the precursors
to torture porn.

3210
02:33:03,550 --> 02:33:05,689
Things like "Hostel",
things like that.

3211
02:33:10,724 --> 02:33:11,906
And I don't really
see that type of movie

3212
02:33:11,931 --> 02:33:14,595
coming back again,
because I think it was

3213
02:33:14,620 --> 02:33:18,217
really surrounding VHS,
and the ability to share

3214
02:33:18,240 --> 02:33:19,595
horrific images with people,

3215
02:33:19,620 --> 02:33:21,078
which you can do at
the touch of a button

3216
02:33:21,102 --> 02:33:22,527
with the internet now,

3217
02:33:22,550 --> 02:33:24,458
but back then, the feeling
of having something

3218
02:33:24,481 --> 02:33:27,251
that you shouldn't
have, a snuff movie,

3219
02:33:27,274 --> 02:33:29,769
and passing that around,
is really the reason

3220
02:33:29,792 --> 02:33:31,941
why there's so many
"Guinea Pig" movies,

3221
02:33:31,965 --> 02:33:34,286
and that's why also the
"Faces of Death" movies

3222
02:33:34,309 --> 02:33:36,757
in the western world
were so popular.

3223
02:33:50,033 --> 02:33:51,976
Spielberg once said to me

3224
02:33:52,000 --> 02:33:55,802
I would love to make a
really vicious horror movie.

3225
02:33:55,826 --> 02:33:59,354
You wouldn't believe some
of the dark ideas I have

3226
02:33:59,379 --> 02:34:02,595
that would probably
challenge Cronenberg

3227
02:34:02,620 --> 02:34:07,043
as far as going the
distance in shocking stuff.

3228
02:34:07,067 --> 02:34:09,700
But I can't do that
because of who I am.

3229
02:34:09,724 --> 02:34:11,976
That was when he was best known

3230
02:34:12,000 --> 02:34:13,527
for "E.T." and "Poltergeist",

3231
02:34:13,550 --> 02:34:15,561
and more family friendly stuff.

3232
02:34:15,585 --> 02:34:17,976
He felt that that
put him in a box

3233
02:34:18,000 --> 02:34:20,896
that didn't allow him to
go to the other distance.

3234
02:34:22,550 --> 02:34:25,078
The most impactful horror films

3235
02:34:25,102 --> 02:34:27,561
will always come from some guy

3236
02:34:27,585 --> 02:34:30,182
in the middle of nowhere
with a bunch of friends

3237
02:34:30,206 --> 02:34:32,976
who've made a movie,
and it's really cool,

3238
02:34:33,000 --> 02:34:35,000
and is a huge success.

3239
02:34:37,792 --> 02:34:41,251
As soon as you have
a committee involved

3240
02:34:41,274 --> 02:34:43,837
in making a horror
film, it never works.

3241
02:34:43,861 --> 02:34:45,286
It's not a committee.

3242
02:34:45,309 --> 02:34:47,448
It's a singular vision.

3243
02:34:49,000 --> 02:34:51,010
Too many bones.

3244
02:34:51,033 --> 02:34:53,976
When you have one person
with one clear vision,

3245
02:34:54,000 --> 02:34:55,561
that comes through
in the final product.

3246
02:34:55,585 --> 02:34:57,665
So it's an important thing
that there is a director

3247
02:34:57,689 --> 02:35:00,251
that sees it through
from start to finish.

3248
02:35:00,274 --> 02:35:02,182
The lower the budget,
the more creative

3249
02:35:02,206 --> 02:35:04,826
a filmmaker can get to
realize their vision.

3250
02:35:06,240 --> 02:35:08,906
You just have to keep
everything in perspective.

3251
02:35:08,931 --> 02:35:10,010
We're making movies.

3252
02:35:10,033 --> 02:35:11,527
We're doing what we love.

3253
02:35:11,550 --> 02:35:14,274
I said I think my
ears are gonna explode.

3254
02:35:17,655 --> 02:35:19,458
I think that's really
an important part

3255
02:35:19,481 --> 02:35:20,389
of being a filmmaker.

3256
02:35:20,414 --> 02:35:21,976
I wanted to affect something.

3257
02:35:22,000 --> 02:35:24,665
And that at the
tenacity of the finish.

3258
02:35:24,689 --> 02:35:25,871
That's the whole thing.

3259
02:35:25,896 --> 02:35:28,354
Most people quit when
things get rough.

3260
02:35:28,379 --> 02:35:30,700
And they always get rough.

3261
02:35:30,724 --> 02:35:34,043
Really the best directors
I've ever worked with,

3262
02:35:34,067 --> 02:35:36,424
they hire the right people.

3263
02:35:36,448 --> 02:35:38,965
And they trust their talent.

3264
02:35:40,274 --> 02:35:43,493
When I think about the
three great directors

3265
02:35:43,516 --> 02:35:46,217
that I've worked with,
the ones that come to mind

3266
02:35:46,240 --> 02:35:49,458
are John Carpenter, George
Romero, and Wes Craven.

3267
02:35:49,481 --> 02:35:51,147
They have a bunch
of things in common.

3268
02:35:51,172 --> 02:35:53,665
They all knew exactly
what they wanted.

3269
02:35:53,689 --> 02:35:56,976
And all three of them
kept a very calm,

3270
02:35:57,000 --> 02:36:01,802
very supportive set,
a very happy set.

3271
02:36:01,826 --> 02:36:04,388
Playing mind games,
that's not the way

3272
02:36:04,413 --> 02:36:06,424
those three men directed.

3273
02:36:06,448 --> 02:36:07,355
Cut.

3274
02:36:07,379 --> 02:36:08,561
Prints, thank you.

3275
02:36:08,585 --> 02:36:10,078
I would argue
that John Carpenter

3276
02:36:10,102 --> 02:36:11,630
was probably the most underrated

3277
02:36:11,655 --> 02:36:14,516
great American filmmaker ever.

3278
02:36:18,102 --> 02:36:20,286
And he's not probably
largely viewed that way

3279
02:36:20,309 --> 02:36:22,147
by people who should
view him that way.

3280
02:36:22,172 --> 02:36:23,769
He's certainly very
revered by most people

3281
02:36:23,792 --> 02:36:25,388
who like horror,
but he's much more

3282
02:36:25,413 --> 02:36:27,217
than a horror filmmaker.

3283
02:36:27,240 --> 02:36:29,043
Cronenberg, because
he was headier,

3284
02:36:29,067 --> 02:36:31,354
I think got more due,
and more acceptance

3285
02:36:31,379 --> 02:36:33,413
by the snobbier film community.

3286
02:36:35,413 --> 02:36:39,010
The relationship between
humanity and physicality

3287
02:36:39,033 --> 02:36:41,319
is something that
Cronenberg explores a lot,

3288
02:36:41,343 --> 02:36:44,976
whether it's "eXitenZ",
or "Rabid", or "Shivers".

3289
02:36:45,000 --> 02:36:46,182
"The Fly".

3290
02:36:46,206 --> 02:36:49,458
He regurgitates on
his food, it liquefies,

3291
02:36:49,481 --> 02:36:50,976
and then he sucks it back up.

3292
02:36:51,000 --> 02:36:53,000
It's a theme that he
would come back to a lot

3293
02:36:54,724 --> 02:36:55,965
Oh my god.

3294
02:36:58,067 --> 02:37:01,043
John Carpenter's biggest
influence on 1980s horror

3295
02:37:01,067 --> 02:37:03,802
was "Halloween" from 1978.

3296
02:37:03,826 --> 02:37:07,010
That really kicked
off the slasher boom.

3297
02:37:07,033 --> 02:37:10,000
And paved the way for
so many copycats after.

3298
02:37:15,102 --> 02:37:18,493
His legacy is that the
genre was taken seriously,

3299
02:37:18,516 --> 02:37:20,286
and he wanted to
give the audience,

3300
02:37:20,309 --> 02:37:23,043
not just a thrill, but
just show how movie making

3301
02:37:23,067 --> 02:37:24,274
can be an experience.

3302
02:37:25,757 --> 02:37:28,147
♪ Just the two of us

3303
02:37:28,172 --> 02:37:30,665
I didn't watch as
many horror films

3304
02:37:30,689 --> 02:37:32,837
as I should have during the 80s

3305
02:37:32,861 --> 02:37:34,319
because I was so busy.

3306
02:37:34,343 --> 02:37:38,112
But I remember a lot of the
movies I saw in the 70s,

3307
02:37:38,137 --> 02:37:41,700
"The Texas Chainsaw
Massacre" being a big one.

3308
02:37:41,724 --> 02:37:42,861
I loved that movie.

3309
02:37:44,413 --> 02:37:46,319
Tobe was a close friend.

3310
02:37:46,343 --> 02:37:48,595
Really upset by the
passing of Tobe.

3311
02:37:48,620 --> 02:37:50,769
A very sweet man.

3312
02:37:50,792 --> 02:37:53,319
Really wonderful guy.

3313
02:37:53,343 --> 02:37:56,837
He made the cinematic
experience for moviegoers

3314
02:37:56,861 --> 02:38:00,448
a lot more brutal I think
than they were used to.

3315
02:38:04,000 --> 02:38:06,319
The two greatest movies
that Tobe Hooper made,

3316
02:38:06,343 --> 02:38:08,665
"The Texas Chainsaw
Massacre", and "Poltergeist",

3317
02:38:08,689 --> 02:38:10,976
were both used against
him to say well,

3318
02:38:11,000 --> 02:38:13,871
he didn't direct one, and
the other one is crap.

3319
02:38:13,896 --> 02:38:16,388
And so he struggled
his whole life

3320
02:38:16,413 --> 02:38:19,343
to become more
accepted as a director.

3321
02:38:22,206 --> 02:38:25,286
I feel like every
movie Wes Craven makes

3322
02:38:25,309 --> 02:38:28,734
was like a statement
piece, was groundbreaking,

3323
02:38:28,757 --> 02:38:30,251
wasn't like oh,
here's a horror movie.

3324
02:38:30,274 --> 02:38:33,010
It was like, this
has changed the face

3325
02:38:33,033 --> 02:38:34,585
of what we're watching today.

3326
02:38:38,550 --> 02:38:40,734
He was making films
and having a blast.

3327
02:38:40,757 --> 02:38:45,251
He was very kind of, in the
New York intellectual scene.

3328
02:38:45,274 --> 02:38:47,871
Night and day different,

3329
02:38:47,896 --> 02:38:50,792
were Wes Craven's
movies and who he was.

3330
02:38:52,689 --> 02:38:54,734
George Romero,
for someone who made

3331
02:38:54,757 --> 02:38:59,424
such really creepy,
disturbing films,

3332
02:38:59,448 --> 02:39:01,251
he was such a bear.

3333
02:39:01,274 --> 02:39:05,516
Just a cuddly, sweet,
delightful presence.

3334
02:39:08,000 --> 02:39:09,527
My god.

3335
02:39:09,550 --> 02:39:12,837
George was a master, and he
was always ahead of his time.

3336
02:39:12,861 --> 02:39:15,424
That's what was so remarkable
about George's films.

3337
02:39:15,448 --> 02:39:18,550
They get better and
better with age.

3338
02:39:25,240 --> 02:39:28,976
Dario Argento, he was
consistently impressive

3339
02:39:29,000 --> 02:39:31,965
as a filmmaker, right up to
and including "Two Evil Eyes".

3340
02:39:34,826 --> 02:39:36,700
What's special about Dario

3341
02:39:36,724 --> 02:39:40,078
is his operatic
style of filmmaking.

3342
02:39:40,102 --> 02:39:42,137
He revels in murder.

3343
02:39:44,413 --> 02:39:47,388
He has a fetish for creating

3344
02:39:47,413 --> 02:39:50,309
these amazing murder set pieces.

3345
02:39:58,516 --> 02:40:00,527
Steward Gordon
was a provocateur.

3346
02:40:00,550 --> 02:40:04,620
He liked to make movies that
really provoked a reaction.

3347
02:40:07,448 --> 02:40:10,595
Stewart was the
king of the party.

3348
02:40:10,620 --> 02:40:15,620
He made sure that everything
was big and bold and body.

3349
02:40:19,516 --> 02:40:21,010
He has a different personality

3350
02:40:21,033 --> 02:40:22,595
with pretty much
every movie he does.

3351
02:40:22,620 --> 02:40:24,354
"Dagon" has a
different personality.

3352
02:40:24,379 --> 02:40:26,458
"Dolls" has a
different personality.

3353
02:40:26,481 --> 02:40:28,286
"Stuck" has a
different personality.

3354
02:40:28,309 --> 02:40:31,240
"Castle Freak", everything's
a little different.

3355
02:40:37,481 --> 02:40:39,906
Kathryn Bigelow,
in my estimation,

3356
02:40:39,931 --> 02:40:42,700
Mary Lambert, they broke
the mold a little bit.

3357
02:40:42,724 --> 02:40:44,388
They were very bold.

3358
02:40:44,413 --> 02:40:46,182
I think they knew they
were gonna be able

3359
02:40:46,206 --> 02:40:48,941
to find advocacy within
the studio system.

3360
02:40:48,965 --> 02:40:50,769
I think they had
that confidence.

3361
02:40:50,792 --> 02:40:54,206
And that confidence radiates
from those products.

3362
02:40:55,448 --> 02:40:59,078
Fasten your fucking seatbelt!

3363
02:40:59,102 --> 02:41:03,424
It was very, very
difficult for women directors

3364
02:41:03,448 --> 02:41:05,976
to either put together
a film themselves,

3365
02:41:06,000 --> 02:41:09,319
or to get a job
directing any film.

3366
02:41:09,343 --> 02:41:12,251
Well come on, baby!

3367
02:41:12,274 --> 02:41:13,700
Light my fire.

3368
02:41:13,724 --> 02:41:16,147
Now it's opened a lot more.

3369
02:41:16,172 --> 02:41:18,286
But we have a lot to
ground to make up.

3370
02:41:18,309 --> 02:41:19,906
It was bad.

3371
02:41:19,931 --> 02:41:22,010
We're not as far
along as we should be.

3372
02:41:22,033 --> 02:41:23,182
Let's just put it that way.

3373
02:41:23,206 --> 02:41:25,182
We have to get to a point

3374
02:41:25,206 --> 02:41:27,251
where women are not labeled

3375
02:41:27,274 --> 02:41:31,319
as female filmmaker, or like me,

3376
02:41:31,343 --> 02:41:34,112
Mexican-Canadian,
blah-blah-blah, filmmaker.

3377
02:41:34,137 --> 02:41:35,354
Like, you can have
all the labels.

3378
02:41:35,379 --> 02:41:37,665
My last name's
already long enough.

3379
02:41:37,689 --> 02:41:41,147
I just want us to be
recognized as a good filmmaker,

3380
02:41:41,172 --> 02:41:44,976
and it's taken all this
time to finally get here.

3381
02:41:45,000 --> 02:41:48,665
But it's our responsibility
as storytellers

3382
02:41:48,689 --> 02:41:51,976
to challenge audiences,
and to challenge studios

3383
02:41:52,000 --> 02:41:52,804
to accept that.

3384
02:41:52,827 --> 02:41:55,448
Welcome to our house!

3385
02:41:57,172 --> 02:41:58,620
Puta!

3386
02:41:59,550 --> 02:42:00,769
We'll keep working hard.

3387
02:42:00,792 --> 02:42:02,527
And we'll keep
challenging everybody

3388
02:42:02,550 --> 02:42:05,689
that watches our
movies to accept it.

3389
02:42:19,033 --> 02:42:20,871
The Puttermans
finally got themselves

3390
02:42:20,896 --> 02:42:24,655
a pet, but they never even had
a chance to give it a name.

3391
02:42:25,931 --> 02:42:27,112
"TerrorVision".

3392
02:42:27,137 --> 02:42:28,458
"TerrorVision" was one
of the movies we made

3393
02:42:28,481 --> 02:42:30,527
during those amazing
three years or so

3394
02:42:30,550 --> 02:42:33,217
at Empire Studios
in Rome, Italy.

3395
02:42:33,240 --> 02:42:35,802
That's when that, you know
you conceive something,

3396
02:42:35,826 --> 02:42:37,424
you have a great poster,

3397
02:42:37,448 --> 02:42:40,172
and then it morphs into
something entirely different.

3398
02:42:47,861 --> 02:42:49,078
It was originally gonna be
a straight up horror movie

3399
02:42:49,102 --> 02:42:50,906
that this monster
comes out of the TV

3400
02:42:50,931 --> 02:42:52,965
and eats the family.

3401
02:42:54,206 --> 02:42:57,550
But Ted had this kind of
strange dark humor, and-

3402
02:43:01,757 --> 02:43:02,665
Whoa!

3403
02:43:02,690 --> 02:43:03,906
I just kind of pondered

3404
02:43:03,931 --> 02:43:06,906
how to make a monster coming out

3405
02:43:06,931 --> 02:43:10,906
of a satellite dish, have some
kind of social commentary.

3406
02:43:10,931 --> 02:43:13,043
You must heed my warning!

3407
02:43:13,067 --> 02:43:15,561
Its appetite is insatiable!

3408
02:43:15,585 --> 02:43:17,941
Its curiosity is boundless!

3409
02:43:17,965 --> 02:43:21,424
I had to capture
this moment of the 80s

3410
02:43:21,448 --> 02:43:25,896
about the overwhelming
garbage of television.

3411
02:43:26,724 --> 02:43:29,458
Channel 69, Pops.

3412
02:43:29,481 --> 02:43:30,976
Stanley!

3413
02:43:31,000 --> 02:43:34,906
Man, it exploded into this
technicolor kind of wildness.

3414
02:43:34,931 --> 02:43:36,388
Look out!

3415
02:43:36,413 --> 02:43:38,906
To the film's credit,
or maybe its detriment,

3416
02:43:38,931 --> 02:43:41,493
I don't know, I made
these characters

3417
02:43:41,516 --> 02:43:43,700
that are sort of
really reprehensible.

3418
02:43:43,724 --> 02:43:45,274
My parents wanna meet you.

3419
02:43:46,516 --> 02:43:47,320
Oh, whoa.

3420
02:43:47,344 --> 02:43:49,010
What a drag.

3421
02:43:49,033 --> 02:43:51,906
I wanted our monster in
"TerrorVision", Hungry Beast,

3422
02:43:51,931 --> 02:43:54,620
to be a sympathetic character.

3423
02:43:56,757 --> 02:43:59,837
Well, he's just a pet
who really couldn't help

3424
02:43:59,861 --> 02:44:01,172
that he was hungry.

3425
02:44:02,861 --> 02:44:05,010
John Buechler and his crew

3426
02:44:05,033 --> 02:44:09,527
were kind of like the Charlie
go-to makeup effects people.

3427
02:44:09,550 --> 02:44:13,078
John just looked at me like
I was completely insane.

3428
02:44:13,102 --> 02:44:16,319
Once we found the basic design,

3429
02:44:16,343 --> 02:44:17,941
John threw himself into it

3430
02:44:17,965 --> 02:44:20,388
and created this character
that is just like

3431
02:44:20,413 --> 02:44:23,217
the most doofus-y
looking monster

3432
02:44:23,240 --> 02:44:24,941
that you could imagine.

3433
02:44:24,965 --> 02:44:26,078
No!

3434
02:44:26,102 --> 02:44:28,665
It was big and
heavy and hot inside,

3435
02:44:28,689 --> 02:44:31,182
and required five
or six puppeteers

3436
02:44:31,206 --> 02:44:33,354
just to make him work,

3437
02:44:33,379 --> 02:44:35,734
and shipping him over to Italy

3438
02:44:35,757 --> 02:44:39,240
must have been just
ridiculously expensive.

3439
02:44:41,137 --> 02:44:43,802
♪ TerrorVision

3440
02:44:43,826 --> 02:44:45,941
That main title theme
is just so perfect.

3441
02:44:45,965 --> 02:44:48,112
Sets the time
period of the movie,

3442
02:44:48,137 --> 02:44:50,078
sets the tone of the movie.

3443
02:44:50,102 --> 02:44:53,424
We talked to Frank Zappa
about doing the score.

3444
02:44:53,448 --> 02:44:55,527
Then I talked to The Cramps.

3445
02:44:55,550 --> 02:45:00,112
But The Fibonaccis, the
quirky quality of their music

3446
02:45:00,137 --> 02:45:03,172
was perfect for the
main title song.

3447
02:45:04,585 --> 02:45:06,802
♪ TerrorVision

3448
02:45:06,826 --> 02:45:09,251
My favorite sequence
of "TerrorVision"

3449
02:45:09,274 --> 02:45:13,010
is the creature is
sitting in the big hot tub

3450
02:45:13,033 --> 02:45:16,527
watching "Earth Versus
Flying Saucers" on TV,

3451
02:45:16,550 --> 02:45:19,561
and laughing uproariously
as flying saucers

3452
02:45:19,585 --> 02:45:21,896
smash into the monuments.

3453
02:45:25,931 --> 02:45:29,309
The kids come in
and try to kill it.

3454
02:45:32,861 --> 02:45:34,630
That little sequence
there, to me,

3455
02:45:34,655 --> 02:45:38,137
kind of captures the
chaos and the humor.

3456
02:45:41,274 --> 02:45:42,112
Sis!

3457
02:45:42,137 --> 02:45:43,137
Sis!

3458
02:45:45,000 --> 02:45:47,217
I was so pleased
that it came out

3459
02:45:47,240 --> 02:45:48,424
as well as it did.

3460
02:45:48,448 --> 02:45:50,112
And then when it went
into the theaters

3461
02:45:50,137 --> 02:45:51,837
for its one week run,

3462
02:45:51,861 --> 02:45:53,906
it was a fucking disaster.

3463
02:45:53,931 --> 02:45:55,217
Nobody came.

3464
02:45:55,240 --> 02:45:57,147
The reviews just hated it.

3465
02:45:57,172 --> 02:45:59,630
Man, this is the
dumbest movie I ever saw!

3466
02:45:59,655 --> 02:46:01,078
What a bunch of crud.

3467
02:46:01,102 --> 02:46:04,043
But over the years, it's
been really satisfying

3468
02:46:04,067 --> 02:46:06,182
to see how it became
kind of like a

3469
02:46:06,206 --> 02:46:08,043
let's get stoned
and watch this film,

3470
02:46:08,067 --> 02:46:11,837
and that's like kind of
what it was intended to be.

3471
02:46:11,861 --> 02:46:14,837
I'm really happy that it's
reached as many people

3472
02:46:14,861 --> 02:46:16,000
as it has.

3473
02:46:28,724 --> 02:46:30,665
In "Rats: Notte di
Terrore", which is

3474
02:46:30,689 --> 02:46:33,941
"Rats: Night of Terror",
ragtag band of survivors

3475
02:46:33,965 --> 02:46:37,493
after the last apocalypse are
searching for food and water

3476
02:46:37,516 --> 02:46:39,112
in a no man's land.

3477
02:46:39,137 --> 02:46:40,906
They would find
evolution has taken

3478
02:46:40,931 --> 02:46:42,655
a pretty nasty turn.

3479
02:46:48,379 --> 02:46:49,802
This is a really
low budget movie,

3480
02:46:49,826 --> 02:46:52,837
and it's the first
movie where I'm a lead.

3481
02:46:52,861 --> 02:46:54,458
It was only a gag.

3482
02:46:54,481 --> 02:46:55,941
Listen up.

3483
02:46:55,965 --> 02:46:57,734
Gags we don't need.

3484
02:46:57,757 --> 02:46:59,976
Any more and I'll blow
your fucking brains out.

3485
02:47:00,000 --> 02:47:01,217
Get it?

3486
02:47:01,240 --> 02:47:04,078
They actually had cast
my roommate at the time

3487
02:47:04,102 --> 02:47:05,354
to play my role.

3488
02:47:05,379 --> 02:47:07,561
Completely different
type, American girl.

3489
02:47:07,585 --> 02:47:08,941
She's got red hair.

3490
02:47:08,965 --> 02:47:10,424
Completely different girl.

3491
02:47:10,448 --> 02:47:12,826
The budget was so low, she
goes I'm not doing that.

3492
02:47:14,000 --> 02:47:15,896
Somehow I guess
they heard I would.

3493
02:47:22,033 --> 02:47:23,424
Oh my god!

3494
02:47:23,448 --> 02:47:24,458
I won't even tell you

3495
02:47:24,481 --> 02:47:25,493
what I got paid per week.

3496
02:47:25,516 --> 02:47:26,595
That's how low it was.

3497
02:47:26,620 --> 02:47:28,067
They were paying you by week.

3498
02:47:29,000 --> 02:47:31,010
Not Diana, no!

3499
02:47:31,033 --> 02:47:32,319
The script was in Italian.

3500
02:47:32,343 --> 02:47:34,182
But I did my role in English.

3501
02:47:34,206 --> 02:47:36,941
And then that movie,
everyone with the exception

3502
02:47:36,965 --> 02:47:38,769
of maybe two people,
could speak English.

3503
02:47:38,792 --> 02:47:41,458
And then everyone else
would be dubbed around it.

3504
02:47:41,481 --> 02:47:43,561
You made a bet with me
and you lost, Chocolate.

3505
02:47:43,585 --> 02:47:45,010
You know it.

3506
02:47:45,033 --> 02:47:46,561
Put it on my bill.

3507
02:47:46,585 --> 02:47:47,976
Tonight I don't feel like it.

3508
02:47:48,000 --> 02:47:50,700
Now here's a fun
thing about the set.

3509
02:47:50,724 --> 02:47:52,630
It's actually Sergio Leone's

3510
02:47:52,655 --> 02:47:55,286
old America from "One
Upon a Time in America".

3511
02:47:55,309 --> 02:47:58,043
All the saloons, and all
the stores they're going in.

3512
02:47:58,067 --> 02:47:59,354
It's the same set.

3513
02:47:59,379 --> 02:48:01,493
Mere weeks before,
De Niro was in town,

3514
02:48:01,516 --> 02:48:02,976
and he was everywhere.

3515
02:48:03,000 --> 02:48:03,941
You could see him anywhere,
and they were doing that.

3516
02:48:03,966 --> 02:48:05,251
And then we got to use the set.

3517
02:48:05,274 --> 02:48:07,837
Here's where my
four-legged friend came from.

3518
02:48:07,861 --> 02:48:09,078
Look.

3519
02:48:09,102 --> 02:48:10,527
There's a whole nest of
the sweet little things.

3520
02:48:10,550 --> 02:48:12,630
We don't have any
actual rats in the movie.

3521
02:48:12,655 --> 02:48:13,837
We have lab mice.

3522
02:48:13,861 --> 02:48:15,802
Because only lab mice
have the red eyes.

3523
02:48:15,826 --> 02:48:17,217
They dyed all of their hair.

3524
02:48:17,240 --> 02:48:18,941
It was a different
time, a different era.

3525
02:48:18,965 --> 02:48:21,458
I wouldn't say that all
of them were treated

3526
02:48:21,481 --> 02:48:22,802
the way we would do it now,

3527
02:48:22,826 --> 02:48:23,770
but we weren't going around

3528
02:48:23,793 --> 02:48:25,481
stomping on them, or anything.

3529
02:48:27,585 --> 02:48:29,769
And as you see the movie,
there's real no CGI.

3530
02:48:29,792 --> 02:48:31,734
You can tell we got rubber rats

3531
02:48:31,757 --> 02:48:33,274
on the roller, you know?

3532
02:48:35,309 --> 02:48:37,665
The movie was so low budget,

3533
02:48:37,689 --> 02:48:39,354
they recycled the dead ones

3534
02:48:39,379 --> 02:48:42,147
to throw on us in
the other scenes.

3535
02:48:42,172 --> 02:48:44,388
I've been on some
smelly sets before.

3536
02:48:44,413 --> 02:48:45,630
But you've never been on a set

3537
02:48:45,655 --> 02:48:47,734
that's been housing a
garbage can that big

3538
02:48:47,757 --> 02:48:49,137
of dead rats.

3539
02:48:50,309 --> 02:48:52,561
Suddenly they're
gassed, and they die.

3540
02:48:52,585 --> 02:48:55,286
And in the most feminine
faint in history,

3541
02:48:55,309 --> 02:48:58,240
I kind of faint like this.

3542
02:48:59,240 --> 02:49:00,871
It was a good beginning.

3543
02:49:00,896 --> 02:49:03,147
If you haven't seen
the movie before,

3544
02:49:03,172 --> 02:49:06,251
pay great attention
to the last scene.

3545
02:49:06,274 --> 02:49:08,941
And if you have seen
the movie before,

3546
02:49:08,965 --> 02:49:10,217
here's the hint.

3547
02:49:10,240 --> 02:49:12,286
That's a split scene.

3548
02:49:12,309 --> 02:49:14,000
And I played both characters.

3549
02:49:27,550 --> 02:49:32,147
The terror
starts the moment you stop

3550
02:49:32,172 --> 02:49:33,319
for "The Hitcher".

3551
02:49:33,343 --> 02:49:36,043
It's a straightforward thriller

3552
02:49:36,067 --> 02:49:38,481
that grips you
and never lets go.

3553
02:49:45,931 --> 02:49:48,527
Tobe Hooper used
to say horror films

3554
02:49:48,550 --> 02:49:49,976
are the new westerns.

3555
02:49:50,000 --> 02:49:54,251
Their mythology is all
about trying to reconcile

3556
02:49:54,274 --> 02:49:57,112
the evil within oneself,
the evil within a society,

3557
02:49:57,137 --> 02:49:58,665
the evil of a certain act,

3558
02:49:58,689 --> 02:50:01,493
with those who want
to correct it, fix it,

3559
02:50:01,516 --> 02:50:03,595
fight it, avenge it.

3560
02:50:03,620 --> 02:50:05,976
Don't you know who he is?

3561
02:50:06,000 --> 02:50:07,724
You got the wrong man, Lyle.

3562
02:50:09,137 --> 02:50:11,595
The monster in the film
is not a guy in a mask,

3563
02:50:11,620 --> 02:50:16,620
but he is exactly like Jason,
Leatherface, Michael Meyers.

3564
02:50:17,826 --> 02:50:20,319
He's simply hitching
a ride in the rain.

3565
02:50:20,343 --> 02:50:24,941
And this horrific story ensues.

3566
02:50:24,965 --> 02:50:27,527
You wanna know what
happens to an eyeball

3567
02:50:27,550 --> 02:50:28,896
when it gets punctured?

3568
02:50:30,240 --> 02:50:32,802
The movie truly only
has three characters,

3569
02:50:32,826 --> 02:50:34,561
and I love that economy.

3570
02:50:34,585 --> 02:50:37,217
It has C. Thomas Howell,
Jennifer Jason Leigh,

3571
02:50:37,240 --> 02:50:39,000
and Rutger Hauer.

3572
02:50:40,379 --> 02:50:42,354
He's one of the
scariest human beings

3573
02:50:42,379 --> 02:50:43,976
on the fucking planet.

3574
02:50:44,000 --> 02:50:46,561
His presence fills the screen.

3575
02:50:46,585 --> 02:50:47,724
That gun is empty.

3576
02:50:48,931 --> 02:50:49,931
Yeah?

3577
02:50:50,620 --> 02:50:51,494
Yeah.

3578
02:50:51,518 --> 02:50:52,734
Yeah?

3579
02:50:52,757 --> 02:50:55,217
It's a film about
being paranoid,

3580
02:50:55,240 --> 02:50:57,941
and knowing something
really bad is happening,

3581
02:50:57,965 --> 02:51:00,620
but nobody will believe you.

3582
02:51:01,448 --> 02:51:02,448
Jesus!

3583
02:51:03,826 --> 02:51:04,630
Oh my god.

3584
02:51:04,655 --> 02:51:05,458
He put that there!

3585
02:51:05,481 --> 02:51:06,481
He put that there!

3586
02:51:07,724 --> 02:51:10,078
To this day, when
I'm eating fries,

3587
02:51:10,102 --> 02:51:13,769
I always look at the
fry that I'm eating.

3588
02:51:13,792 --> 02:51:15,769
He's eating, and he gets
there, and it's a finger,

3589
02:51:15,792 --> 02:51:16,595
and you're like, fuck!

3590
02:51:16,620 --> 02:51:17,620
It's a finger!

3591
02:51:22,689 --> 02:51:24,424
They've got the
girlfriend connected,

3592
02:51:24,448 --> 02:51:26,516
chained up between
the two trucks.

3593
02:51:27,343 --> 02:51:28,527
Do something!

3594
02:51:28,550 --> 02:51:29,976
If we shoot him,
his foot is gonna come

3595
02:51:30,000 --> 02:51:32,286
off that clutch, and
that truck is gonna roll!

3596
02:51:32,309 --> 02:51:34,802
And he just looks
at C. Thomas Howell,

3597
02:51:34,826 --> 02:51:39,000
and there's that moment
of, is he gonna let her go?

3598
02:51:43,448 --> 02:51:44,871
TriStar released "The Hitcher",

3599
02:51:44,896 --> 02:51:47,112
and they were a little skittish
about the script stuff,

3600
02:51:47,137 --> 02:51:49,871
is because in 1984, the last
horror movie they released

3601
02:51:49,896 --> 02:51:51,147
was "Silent Night Deadly Night".

3602
02:51:51,172 --> 02:51:52,976
And that only had
a two week run,

3603
02:51:53,000 --> 02:51:54,976
and it was protested
out of theaters.

3604
02:51:55,000 --> 02:51:57,112
So taking a chance on a
movie like "The Hitcher",

3605
02:51:57,137 --> 02:51:58,424
they saw this script,
and they were like

3606
02:51:58,448 --> 02:52:00,137
remove the slasher elements.

3607
02:52:01,240 --> 02:52:02,240
Figure it out.

3608
02:52:03,274 --> 02:52:06,769
"The Hitcher" was in
that crossover period

3609
02:52:06,792 --> 02:52:08,424
where things were
starting to get

3610
02:52:08,448 --> 02:52:10,665
a little bit less splattery.

3611
02:52:10,689 --> 02:52:13,319
Style, that 80s video style,

3612
02:52:13,343 --> 02:52:15,976
was starting to
permeate thrillers.

3613
02:52:16,000 --> 02:52:17,319
Directed by Robert Harmon,

3614
02:52:17,343 --> 02:52:18,320
written by Eric Red,

3615
02:52:18,344 --> 02:52:19,561
who also wrote "Near Dark",

3616
02:52:19,585 --> 02:52:22,319
which is another
example of that stylized

3617
02:52:22,343 --> 02:52:23,424
horror movie making.

3618
02:52:23,448 --> 02:52:24,481
Where are you from?

3619
02:52:29,000 --> 02:52:30,182
Disneyland.

3620
02:52:30,206 --> 02:52:32,388
The late great Rutger Hauer.

3621
02:52:32,413 --> 02:52:34,665
I could do a
complete dissertation

3622
02:52:34,689 --> 02:52:38,413
on just how fucking
unappreciated he was.

3623
02:52:40,655 --> 02:52:42,700
No!

3624
02:52:42,724 --> 02:52:46,769
He could have been the head
of every horror family ever.

3625
02:52:46,792 --> 02:52:51,689
You useless waste.

3626
02:52:55,413 --> 02:52:57,481
So good.

3627
02:53:03,137 --> 02:53:05,561
Something fantastic in the 1980s

3628
02:53:05,585 --> 02:53:06,700
happened where they were like

3629
02:53:06,724 --> 02:53:08,976
"Gremlins",
"Critters", "Ghoulies".

3630
02:53:09,000 --> 02:53:11,906
There are tiny creatures,
they are going to take over,

3631
02:53:11,931 --> 02:53:13,000
and I'm into it.

3632
02:53:15,516 --> 02:53:16,757
"Critters".

3633
02:53:17,585 --> 02:53:18,734
They bite.

3634
02:53:18,757 --> 02:53:21,112
People kept trashing "Critters"

3635
02:53:21,137 --> 02:53:24,274
for being a bad cheap
imitation of "Gremlins".

3636
02:53:26,067 --> 02:53:28,078
They're not the same movie.

3637
02:53:28,102 --> 02:53:32,000
No, the critters are fucking
gonna eat you alive, man.

3638
02:53:37,931 --> 02:53:41,251
It's attitude with an
emphasis on the drama.

3639
02:53:41,274 --> 02:53:42,595
I didn't even do nothing.

3640
02:53:42,620 --> 02:53:45,561
Boy, you shot her
with a slingshot.

3641
02:53:45,585 --> 02:53:48,354
It's really just the way
Stephen Herek approached it,

3642
02:53:48,379 --> 02:53:49,734
and took it seriously.

3643
02:53:49,757 --> 02:53:51,424
We want the Krites.

3644
02:53:51,448 --> 02:53:52,630
Oh really?

3645
02:53:52,655 --> 02:53:55,458
Who are they, some new team?

3646
02:53:55,481 --> 02:53:57,837
It acts like a studio movie,

3647
02:53:57,861 --> 02:54:00,481
and it's a $2 million
little independent.

3648
02:54:02,931 --> 02:54:05,182
I love the little
country family,

3649
02:54:05,206 --> 02:54:08,137
completely innocent
of everything.

3650
02:54:14,689 --> 02:54:17,102
And boy, Dee Wallace
gives it her best.

3651
02:54:21,448 --> 02:54:23,343
Get out of my house!

3652
02:54:24,585 --> 02:54:26,343
We had so much
fun on "Critters".

3653
02:54:27,481 --> 02:54:30,043
I loved working
with Stephen Herek.

3654
02:54:30,067 --> 02:54:32,424
He was so easy to work with.

3655
02:54:32,448 --> 02:54:34,043
Always knew what he wanted.

3656
02:54:34,067 --> 02:54:35,630
And it was a tough shoot,

3657
02:54:35,655 --> 02:54:38,379
because we worked mostly nights.

3658
02:54:45,550 --> 02:54:47,424
The creature
designs in "Critters"

3659
02:54:47,448 --> 02:54:50,516
I remember thinking were
really funny when I was a kid.

3660
02:54:52,826 --> 02:54:57,826
Little creepy yet
adorable balls of spikiness,

3661
02:54:59,172 --> 02:55:01,354
and they have really
terrifying eyes and teeth,

3662
02:55:01,379 --> 02:55:03,965
but that's what
made them so fun.

3663
02:55:08,481 --> 02:55:11,078
The Chiodo brothers of
"Killer Klowns from Outer Space"

3664
02:55:11,102 --> 02:55:13,585
fame created the
Krites in "Critters".

3665
02:55:15,033 --> 02:55:17,630
With "Critters" there is an
element where you are scared

3666
02:55:17,655 --> 02:55:19,319
because you don't know
what's gonna happen.

3667
02:55:19,343 --> 02:55:21,976
They just seem in
it to destroy things

3668
02:55:22,000 --> 02:55:23,067
and kill people.

3669
02:55:25,067 --> 02:55:27,700
They didn't have the
big critter finished.

3670
02:55:27,724 --> 02:55:30,665
That's why in that one
scene, you only see his eyes

3671
02:55:30,689 --> 02:55:32,757
coming up through the window.

3672
02:55:37,931 --> 02:55:40,630
It was hard to stay in the fear

3673
02:55:40,655 --> 02:55:42,354
and everything that we had to do

3674
02:55:42,379 --> 02:55:43,595
because it was pretty funny.

3675
02:55:43,620 --> 02:55:46,458
We would be ready to do
this hysterical scene,

3676
02:55:46,481 --> 02:55:49,043
and Stephen would go
okay, roll them in.

3677
02:55:49,067 --> 02:55:52,388
Just roll the little balls

3678
02:55:52,413 --> 02:55:54,379
across the set.

3679
02:55:58,067 --> 02:56:01,458
I did not have anything to do
with the Krite and E.T. scene.

3680
02:56:01,481 --> 02:56:02,700
Nothing.

3681
02:56:02,724 --> 02:56:04,769
And the fans that
are really fans

3682
02:56:04,792 --> 02:56:06,217
that are really knowledgeable,

3683
02:56:06,240 --> 02:56:08,941
they just get off on all
that stuff, and it's great.

3684
02:56:08,965 --> 02:56:11,769
I think it's wonderful
that directors

3685
02:56:11,792 --> 02:56:15,206
throw in all those
cross references.

3686
02:56:19,000 --> 02:56:19,907
A lot of people
make horror movies

3687
02:56:19,932 --> 02:56:21,976
just because it's the easiest,

3688
02:56:22,000 --> 02:56:24,078
or what they think
will be the easiest

3689
02:56:24,102 --> 02:56:27,561
stepping stone to a career
or a paycheck or something.

3690
02:56:27,585 --> 02:56:29,802
But there's a lot of love
and craft in that movie

3691
02:56:29,826 --> 02:56:31,550
that I really appreciate.

3692
02:56:44,585 --> 02:56:47,665
"Manhunter".

3693
02:56:47,689 --> 02:56:50,251
"Manhunter"'s based off
the novel "Red Dragon"

3694
02:56:50,274 --> 02:56:53,561
by Thomas Harris, who also
made "Silence of the Lambs",

3695
02:56:53,585 --> 02:56:55,630
and just like with
"Silence of the Lambs",

3696
02:56:55,655 --> 02:56:57,630
this is a movie that
critics have to refer to

3697
02:56:57,655 --> 02:56:59,665
as a thriller rather
than a horror movie

3698
02:56:59,689 --> 02:57:01,792
so they're allowed to like it.

3699
02:57:04,896 --> 02:57:07,319
The movie is about a killer
named the Tooth Fairy

3700
02:57:07,343 --> 02:57:08,665
who bites people's faces.

3701
02:57:08,689 --> 02:57:10,448
You can't call this
a horror movie?

3702
02:57:11,792 --> 02:57:12,792
Give a kiss.

3703
02:57:17,379 --> 02:57:19,734
William Peterson plays
a detective, Will Graham,

3704
02:57:19,757 --> 02:57:21,595
who's investigating
murders being committed

3705
02:57:21,620 --> 02:57:23,769
by this killer, who we
later learn is this guy

3706
02:57:23,792 --> 02:57:25,458
called Francis Dollarhyde,

3707
02:57:25,481 --> 02:57:27,871
and the reason the novel
was called "Red Dragon"

3708
02:57:27,896 --> 02:57:31,010
is because Dollarhyde
worships this painting

3709
02:57:31,033 --> 02:57:33,802
called the Red Dragon,
and identifies himself

3710
02:57:33,826 --> 02:57:35,147
as the Red Dragon.

3711
02:57:35,172 --> 02:57:36,941
You will lie awake in fear

3712
02:57:36,965 --> 02:57:39,112
of what the Red Dragon will do.

3713
02:57:39,137 --> 02:57:41,458
Francis Dollarhyde's
played by Tom Noonan

3714
02:57:41,481 --> 02:57:44,182
who also played Frankenstein
in "The Monster Squad",

3715
02:57:44,206 --> 02:57:47,976
and he's a very, very
effectively creepy villain.

3716
02:57:48,000 --> 02:57:49,665
He's up there with Buffalo Bill

3717
02:57:49,689 --> 02:57:51,976
from "Silence of the
Lambs", in my opinion.

3718
02:57:52,000 --> 02:57:53,734
Put the fucking
lotion in the basket!

3719
02:57:53,757 --> 02:57:56,147
As a testament to how
scary Tom Noonan is,

3720
02:57:56,172 --> 02:57:58,769
he can wear pantyhose
over half of his face

3721
02:57:58,792 --> 02:58:01,388
like he's Howie Mandel
trying to blow up a glove

3722
02:58:01,413 --> 02:58:03,493
with his nose, and
still be scary.

3723
02:58:03,516 --> 02:58:06,067
Well, here I am.

3724
02:58:08,240 --> 02:58:10,424
This was the very
first screen appearance

3725
02:58:10,448 --> 02:58:12,217
of Hannibal Lecktor,
except this time

3726
02:58:12,240 --> 02:58:15,689
he's played by Brian
Cox, not Anthony Hopkins.

3727
02:58:16,896 --> 02:58:19,976
And Cox as Lecktor
is a lot more subdued

3728
02:58:20,000 --> 02:58:22,665
than Anthony Hopkins,
but he still has

3729
02:58:22,689 --> 02:58:24,802
this quiet menace about him.

3730
02:58:24,826 --> 02:58:28,010
Would you like to leave
me your home phone number?

3731
02:58:28,033 --> 02:58:30,561
Even if he seems to
be cooperating with you,

3732
02:58:30,585 --> 02:58:32,147
he still never
really lets you know

3733
02:58:32,172 --> 02:58:33,941
what his true intentions are,

3734
02:58:33,965 --> 02:58:36,665
but you can be rest assured
that they're not good,

3735
02:58:36,689 --> 02:58:38,595
and he's smarter than you are.

3736
02:58:38,620 --> 02:58:39,528
I know that I'm
not smarter than you.

3737
02:58:39,551 --> 02:58:40,871
Then how did you catch me?

3738
02:58:40,896 --> 02:58:42,286
You had disadvantages.

3739
02:58:42,309 --> 02:58:43,561
What disadvantages?

3740
02:58:43,585 --> 02:58:44,700
You're insane.

3741
02:58:44,724 --> 02:58:46,217
At this point,
Michael Mann was famous

3742
02:58:46,240 --> 02:58:47,769
for the series Miami Vice,

3743
02:58:47,792 --> 02:58:49,976
and this movie uses
a lot of the same

3744
02:58:50,000 --> 02:58:53,274
color scheme, a lot of
the same use of music.

3745
02:58:57,033 --> 02:59:00,043
In a way, this could almost
be like a really scary

3746
02:59:00,067 --> 02:59:01,837
extended episode of Miami Vice,

3747
02:59:01,861 --> 02:59:03,837
and I think that kind of
ended up overshadowing

3748
02:59:03,861 --> 02:59:05,550
the movie a little bit.

3749
02:59:16,826 --> 02:59:21,010
Wes Craven, a very
groundbreaking filmmaker,

3750
02:59:21,033 --> 02:59:22,424
whenever his name was on a film,

3751
02:59:22,448 --> 02:59:24,906
I would always either go
and see it or rent it.

3752
02:59:24,931 --> 02:59:27,595
He definitely had a
shaky track record.

3753
02:59:27,620 --> 02:59:30,112
But it seemed like
he was always looking

3754
02:59:30,137 --> 02:59:32,413
to find something
that would catch on.

3755
02:59:33,931 --> 02:59:36,630
He was always doing these
very interesting stories

3756
02:59:36,655 --> 02:59:40,458
about how kids were
dealing with a lot

3757
02:59:40,481 --> 02:59:42,906
in terms of their family
dynamics, and things like that,

3758
02:59:42,931 --> 02:59:45,424
and we see that especially
in the movie "Deadly Friend".

3759
02:59:45,448 --> 02:59:47,620
"Deadly Friend".

3760
02:59:48,757 --> 02:59:52,424
She can't live without you.

3761
02:59:52,448 --> 02:59:56,802
"Deadly Friend" was adapted
from a story called "Friend".

3762
02:59:56,826 --> 02:59:58,837
They were trying to
make this love story.

3763
02:59:58,861 --> 03:00:00,354
A little bit of science
fiction element,

3764
03:00:00,379 --> 03:00:03,010
little bit of action,
little bit of horror.

3765
03:00:03,033 --> 03:00:04,251
We're pretty close approaching

3766
03:00:04,274 --> 03:00:05,976
the way a normal
human brain works.

3767
03:00:06,000 --> 03:00:07,837
"Deadly Friend" is
about a guy named Paul

3768
03:00:07,861 --> 03:00:09,286
who is a genius.

3769
03:00:09,309 --> 03:00:12,067
He's created this
robot friend named BB,

3770
03:00:13,481 --> 03:00:16,010
a robot with super strength
who thinks for himself,

3771
03:00:16,033 --> 03:00:18,734
and has emotions,
and feels things.

3772
03:00:18,757 --> 03:00:20,527
What could go wrong with
that kind of strength?

3773
03:00:20,550 --> 03:00:22,448
Well, turns out everything.

3774
03:00:23,413 --> 03:00:25,010
I'm side eyeing this robot here,

3775
03:00:25,033 --> 03:00:26,700
because that robot's a killer

3776
03:00:26,724 --> 03:00:29,413
just waiting for
an excuse to kill.

3777
03:00:30,655 --> 03:00:32,976
Sam was played by
Kristy Swanson,

3778
03:00:33,000 --> 03:00:35,240
who we love her as
the original Buffy.

3779
03:00:36,826 --> 03:00:38,424
Dad just will beat her,

3780
03:00:38,448 --> 03:00:40,274
which is terrible.

3781
03:00:41,826 --> 03:00:43,976
He yells at her, and then
throws her down the stairs.

3782
03:00:44,000 --> 03:00:45,700
You whiny little bitch!

3783
03:00:45,724 --> 03:00:46,724
Ow!

3784
03:00:49,620 --> 03:00:50,802
She dies.

3785
03:00:50,826 --> 03:00:53,010
Paul's like, I think
I can save her.

3786
03:00:53,033 --> 03:00:55,286
You're giving her a robot brain?

3787
03:00:55,309 --> 03:00:56,550
Giving her a computer.

3788
03:00:57,724 --> 03:00:59,217
It's a battery powered
self-contained computer.

3789
03:00:59,240 --> 03:01:02,043
So now he has a robot's brain

3790
03:01:02,067 --> 03:01:05,010
in a human girl's
body, but she's dead,

3791
03:01:05,033 --> 03:01:06,700
so he has to hide her, or
else she's walking around,

3792
03:01:06,724 --> 03:01:08,217
she's a zombie, right?

3793
03:01:08,240 --> 03:01:09,734
And then it all goes badly,
and I'm glad it goes badly,

3794
03:01:09,757 --> 03:01:11,388
because it would be weird
if it didn't go badly.

3795
03:01:11,413 --> 03:01:14,976
She sort of becomes
this very interesting

3796
03:01:15,000 --> 03:01:16,941
kind of totem, in a way.

3797
03:01:16,965 --> 03:01:19,354
How she's able to
right the wrongs

3798
03:01:19,379 --> 03:01:20,630
of the way that
she's been treated,

3799
03:01:20,655 --> 03:01:22,585
the way other people
have been treated.

3800
03:01:27,172 --> 03:01:28,769
Elvira, played by Ann Ramsey.

3801
03:01:28,792 --> 03:01:32,217
She's that gun-toting
get off my lawn

3802
03:01:32,240 --> 03:01:35,251
times 40 Karen that
you could meet, right?

3803
03:01:35,274 --> 03:01:36,630
Who's out there?

3804
03:01:36,655 --> 03:01:37,563
What are you doing?

3805
03:01:37,586 --> 03:01:39,734
It's just me, Ms. Parker!

3806
03:01:39,757 --> 03:01:41,010
What is that?

3807
03:01:41,033 --> 03:01:41,872
BB!

3808
03:01:41,897 --> 03:01:43,354
But we love her.

3809
03:01:43,379 --> 03:01:44,976
We love Ann Ramsey from
"Throw Mama From the Train",

3810
03:01:45,000 --> 03:01:46,286
and from "Goonies".

3811
03:01:46,309 --> 03:01:50,837
We love her in that mean
scary woman character.

3812
03:01:50,861 --> 03:01:52,585
Damn kids.

3813
03:01:53,481 --> 03:01:54,459
BB picks up the ball,

3814
03:01:54,483 --> 03:01:56,319
and throws it at Elvira's head,

3815
03:01:56,343 --> 03:01:58,448
and her whole head explodes.

3816
03:02:02,000 --> 03:02:05,665
The whole head goes

3817
03:02:05,689 --> 03:02:08,274
That's my favorite
kill of the movie.

3818
03:02:10,655 --> 03:02:11,871
When they had
the movie together,

3819
03:02:11,896 --> 03:02:14,010
a studio watched it,
and they said, no.

3820
03:02:14,033 --> 03:02:16,871
This needs more violence.

3821
03:02:16,896 --> 03:02:18,458
It needs to be gory.

3822
03:02:18,481 --> 03:02:20,837
Because they're under
contract with the studio,

3823
03:02:20,861 --> 03:02:23,319
they went back and
shot gore scenes.

3824
03:02:23,343 --> 03:02:25,458
Then they were told
it was too much.

3825
03:02:25,481 --> 03:02:27,043
They needed to be trimmed.

3826
03:02:27,067 --> 03:02:31,769
So the creativeness is
pulled back from Wes Craven.

3827
03:02:31,792 --> 03:02:33,976
Another movie where
everybody had fun.

3828
03:02:34,000 --> 03:02:35,620
But I don't think
Wes Craven did.

3829
03:02:51,379 --> 03:02:53,147
♪ Rock and roll

3830
03:02:53,172 --> 03:02:54,561
"Trick or Treat".

3831
03:02:54,585 --> 03:02:57,931
The ultimate rock
and roll horror movie.

3832
03:03:02,448 --> 03:03:05,802
The perfect mixture
of the mythos

3833
03:03:05,826 --> 03:03:09,078
behind the heavy metal
culture in the 80s.

3834
03:03:09,102 --> 03:03:13,286
Just a great misfit
in high school story,

3835
03:03:13,309 --> 03:03:15,700
which I totally related to.

3836
03:03:15,724 --> 03:03:16,837
All right, so "Trick or Treat".

3837
03:03:16,861 --> 03:03:19,458
You had Ozzy Osborne,
Gene Simmons,

3838
03:03:19,481 --> 03:03:21,286
and Skippy from Family Ties.

3839
03:03:21,309 --> 03:03:23,802
One of these things
is not like the other.

3840
03:03:23,826 --> 03:03:25,734
Rockstar Sammi Curr,

3841
03:03:25,757 --> 03:03:27,343
victim of a hotel fire.

3842
03:03:28,516 --> 03:03:30,527
Dead at age 38.

3843
03:03:30,550 --> 03:03:33,561
A rockstar dies, and then
this evil something or other

3844
03:03:33,585 --> 03:03:35,319
comes back as a rockstar.

3845
03:03:35,343 --> 03:03:37,837
I knew that "Trick or
Treat" was just candy.

3846
03:03:37,861 --> 03:03:40,561
It tastes sweet and
then it goes away.

3847
03:03:40,585 --> 03:03:42,976
It's a story of Ragman.

3848
03:03:43,000 --> 03:03:44,595
He is picked on, he's bullied

3849
03:03:44,620 --> 03:03:46,665
by pretty much everybody.

3850
03:03:46,689 --> 03:03:48,906
I wanna nail every
one of those bastards!

3851
03:03:48,931 --> 03:03:51,319
I don't know how,
I don't know when,

3852
03:03:51,343 --> 03:03:52,976
but I'm gonna nail them.

3853
03:03:53,000 --> 03:03:54,630
His hero is Sammi Curr,

3854
03:03:54,655 --> 03:03:58,700
who is demonic,
dark, in your face.

3855
03:03:58,724 --> 03:04:00,700
He ends up killing
himself in a ritual,

3856
03:04:00,724 --> 03:04:02,112
setting himself on fire.

3857
03:04:02,137 --> 03:04:06,976
His soul gets trapped
in the acetate demo

3858
03:04:07,000 --> 03:04:09,388
that Gene Simmons has.

3859
03:04:09,413 --> 03:04:10,700
This is very cool.

3860
03:04:10,724 --> 03:04:12,802
And then when you
play it backwards,

3861
03:04:12,826 --> 03:04:14,802
he comes back from the dead.

3862
03:04:14,826 --> 03:04:15,826
You.

3863
03:04:17,757 --> 03:04:20,286
Great cameos by Gene,

3864
03:04:20,309 --> 03:04:24,458
and then Ozzy as the Bible
thumping PMRC minister.

3865
03:04:24,481 --> 03:04:27,481
These evil people have
just got to be stopped.

3866
03:04:30,206 --> 03:04:33,033
And it's just so off the hook.

3867
03:04:35,343 --> 03:04:37,078
They were looking at a
lot of different rock stars

3868
03:04:37,102 --> 03:04:38,700
to play Sammi Curr.

3869
03:04:38,724 --> 03:04:39,861
Eddie.

3870
03:04:41,620 --> 03:04:42,871
We had a deal.

3871
03:04:42,896 --> 03:04:45,010
I didn't wanna be this
guy with leather studs.

3872
03:04:45,033 --> 03:04:47,665
I was much more
interested in the DJ.

3873
03:04:47,689 --> 03:04:50,458
It's party time, yeah!

3874
03:04:50,481 --> 03:04:51,734
This is the old
Nooser coming at ya

3875
03:04:51,757 --> 03:04:55,010
right here on this fine,
fine Rocktober morning.

3876
03:04:55,033 --> 03:04:56,595
It's the sweeping sensation,

3877
03:04:56,620 --> 03:04:59,319
like patterned
after Wolfman Jack,

3878
03:04:59,343 --> 03:05:00,976
who was a DJ at the time.

3879
03:05:01,000 --> 03:05:03,182
I just had two or three
weeks off between a tour,

3880
03:05:03,206 --> 03:05:05,078
and wound up doing it.

3881
03:05:05,102 --> 03:05:06,493
Eh, Ragman!

3882
03:05:06,516 --> 03:05:08,976
I remember I was so
excited to meet him.

3883
03:05:09,000 --> 03:05:11,595
I said to him, hey Gene Simmons,

3884
03:05:11,620 --> 03:05:13,010
can you do the thing
with the tongue?

3885
03:05:13,033 --> 03:05:15,976
And he said no, I only
do that for girls.

3886
03:05:16,000 --> 03:05:17,527
Tony Fields was genuinely scary

3887
03:05:17,550 --> 03:05:18,585
playing Sammi Curr.

3888
03:05:20,413 --> 03:05:21,630
Hiya, bud.

3889
03:05:21,655 --> 03:05:23,043
Boy, he got that
rockstar stuff down.

3890
03:05:23,067 --> 03:05:25,976
He could dance and sing
and move with the guitar

3891
03:05:26,000 --> 03:05:27,217
and jump off the stage,

3892
03:05:27,240 --> 03:05:29,147
and capable of so much,

3893
03:05:29,172 --> 03:05:31,206
and we lost him way too young.

3894
03:05:34,137 --> 03:05:37,217
The film script was
funnier and darker.

3895
03:05:37,240 --> 03:05:41,354
I think what we ended up with
was something in the middle.

3896
03:05:41,379 --> 03:05:43,493
Charlie Martin Smith was
directing for the first time,

3897
03:05:43,516 --> 03:05:45,319
"Trick or Treat", that
was his first time.

3898
03:05:45,343 --> 03:05:47,665
We had a kinship, a
nerd-like kinship,

3899
03:05:47,689 --> 03:05:50,354
that other directors
might not have picked me.

3900
03:05:50,379 --> 03:05:51,458
I have to be honest with you.

3901
03:05:51,481 --> 03:05:53,102
Keanu Reeves was up for it.

3902
03:05:57,655 --> 03:05:58,871
The gore is great,
the kills are great.

3903
03:05:58,896 --> 03:06:01,458
When he yanks the old
lady through the TV,

3904
03:06:01,481 --> 03:06:03,976
and she just immediately
turns to dust.

3905
03:06:04,000 --> 03:06:06,217
Uh, what the shit
just happened, dude?

3906
03:06:06,240 --> 03:06:08,000
This is insane.

3907
03:06:10,102 --> 03:06:11,769
We were blessed
to get Kevin Yagher

3908
03:06:11,792 --> 03:06:14,413
to do the special effects
and the makeup in the film.

3909
03:06:16,067 --> 03:06:17,941
It was the first time that
I had acted in a movie

3910
03:06:17,965 --> 03:06:20,931
with an imaginary monster, and
things happening, and stuff.

3911
03:06:22,724 --> 03:06:23,941
Oh.

3912
03:06:23,965 --> 03:06:28,550
Of course, the amazing
soundtrack by Fastway.

3913
03:06:29,309 --> 03:06:30,630
♪ Rock and roll

3914
03:06:30,655 --> 03:06:32,561
♪ Rockin' on a midnight

3915
03:06:32,585 --> 03:06:35,941
♪ Steal your soul

3916
03:06:35,965 --> 03:06:38,871
Just such a killer
collection of great tunes

3917
03:06:38,896 --> 03:06:40,802
that I still listen
to to this day.

3918
03:06:40,826 --> 03:06:41,700
♪ On a midnight

3919
03:06:41,725 --> 03:06:43,147
♪ Steal your soul

3920
03:06:43,172 --> 03:06:44,595
We were giddy, it was so good.

3921
03:06:44,620 --> 03:06:46,527
We were like, this is good.

3922
03:06:46,550 --> 03:06:48,286
If the film was successful
when it came out,

3923
03:06:48,309 --> 03:06:50,493
it wasn't successful enough
for them to do the sequel,

3924
03:06:50,516 --> 03:06:53,595
and I'm not still
living off of it.

3925
03:06:53,620 --> 03:06:56,319
If you think about all the
movies that are out there,

3926
03:06:56,343 --> 03:06:59,240
it's unimaginable that people
still care about this movie.

3927
03:07:01,965 --> 03:07:02,976
Un fucking real.

3928
03:07:03,000 --> 03:07:06,343
Heavy metal fans stayed true.

3929
03:07:16,689 --> 03:07:18,976
Marty Rantzen is still a dork,

3930
03:07:19,000 --> 03:07:20,802
but tonight he's getting even.

3931
03:07:20,826 --> 03:07:23,757
Vestron Pictures presents
"Slaughter High".

3932
03:07:25,620 --> 03:07:27,251
April fool's!

3933
03:07:27,274 --> 03:07:30,871
"Slaughter High" is about a kid

3934
03:07:30,896 --> 03:07:33,561
that gets bullied, and
years later at a reunion,

3935
03:07:33,585 --> 03:07:34,527
he comes back.

3936
03:07:34,550 --> 03:07:35,550
Starts killing.

3937
03:07:42,033 --> 03:07:43,734
It's a revenge film.

3938
03:07:43,757 --> 03:07:46,010
It's a horrible prank,
and a prank that went

3939
03:07:46,033 --> 03:07:48,010
horribly wrong for
everybody else.

3940
03:07:48,033 --> 03:07:49,217
I'm sorry, Marty.

3941
03:07:49,240 --> 03:07:50,724
We didn't mean to!

3942
03:07:52,343 --> 03:07:54,665
First of all, it was
called "April Fool's Day",

3943
03:07:54,689 --> 03:07:57,043
and of course, that's like the
American "April Fool's Day",

3944
03:07:57,067 --> 03:07:59,516
so we had to change the title.

3945
03:08:00,689 --> 03:08:02,251
It was meant to be
shot in the States,

3946
03:08:02,274 --> 03:08:05,527
and there was no budget, so
it was all shot in England.

3947
03:08:05,550 --> 03:08:06,941
Three directors.

3948
03:08:06,965 --> 03:08:08,630
George Dugdale, my husband.

3949
03:08:08,655 --> 03:08:11,700
Peter Mackenzie
Litten, and Mark Ezra.

3950
03:08:11,724 --> 03:08:13,906
They all took different roles.

3951
03:08:13,931 --> 03:08:15,906
Peter Litten did
the special effects,

3952
03:08:15,931 --> 03:08:18,689
so he'd step in and
do those scenes.

3953
03:08:21,000 --> 03:08:23,217
Mark was more the writer,
and George would be

3954
03:08:23,240 --> 03:08:25,595
very hands-on as the
physical director,

3955
03:08:25,620 --> 03:08:26,665
which worked really well.

3956
03:08:26,689 --> 03:08:28,112
Good friends.

3957
03:08:28,137 --> 03:08:30,137
I've never had that before,
but it was interesting.

3958
03:08:31,240 --> 03:08:32,769
Carol, my character.

3959
03:08:32,792 --> 03:08:33,871
Come on.

3960
03:08:33,896 --> 03:08:35,112
Come on.

3961
03:08:35,137 --> 03:08:36,595
She wasn't a very
nice person at all.

3962
03:08:36,620 --> 03:08:37,871
She was a bit of a tease,

3963
03:08:37,896 --> 03:08:40,319
and she thought she
was the bees knees.

3964
03:08:40,343 --> 03:08:41,941
And she was meant to
be an 18-year-old.

3965
03:08:41,965 --> 03:08:42,872
I'm sorry.

3966
03:08:42,897 --> 03:08:45,665
I was in my 30s at that point.

3967
03:08:45,689 --> 03:08:47,182
They were clever in the casting,

3968
03:08:47,206 --> 03:08:49,941
because they got people in
their late 20s and stuff,

3969
03:08:49,965 --> 03:08:51,527
so it didn't look
too out of place.

3970
03:08:51,550 --> 03:08:54,458
You filthy stinking
bastard, Marty!

3971
03:08:54,481 --> 03:08:56,388
What do you want from us?

3972
03:08:56,413 --> 03:08:58,286
There was a mix of Brit actors,

3973
03:08:58,309 --> 03:09:00,424
and then we had about
four, five Americans,

3974
03:09:00,448 --> 03:09:02,067
so that made it credible.

3975
03:09:03,792 --> 03:09:05,078
Simon Scuddamore.

3976
03:09:05,102 --> 03:09:07,286
Very intense, and he
did a brilliant job.

3977
03:09:07,309 --> 03:09:09,458
He made Marty
totally come to life.

3978
03:09:09,481 --> 03:09:11,000
It was wonderful.

3979
03:09:13,516 --> 03:09:14,769
How do you want it?

3980
03:09:14,792 --> 03:09:15,665
Please, stop!

3981
03:09:15,690 --> 03:09:17,078
No!

3982
03:09:17,102 --> 03:09:18,458
And what they did, I
don't know why they did it,

3983
03:09:18,481 --> 03:09:21,527
it was just like a
pack of hyenas, really.

3984
03:09:21,550 --> 03:09:23,458
The scene with
the bunsen burner.

3985
03:09:23,481 --> 03:09:25,620
They did such a
good job with that.

3986
03:09:29,102 --> 03:09:30,319
No CGI.

3987
03:09:30,343 --> 03:09:32,620
All practically done
in front of your eyes.

3988
03:09:35,172 --> 03:09:36,700
It all sets on fire.

3989
03:09:36,724 --> 03:09:38,112
I think it's a
fabulous sequence.

3990
03:09:38,137 --> 03:09:39,769
It's a kind of
tongue-in-cheek play

3991
03:09:39,792 --> 03:09:43,137
upon other films that
were maybe more serious.

3992
03:09:44,896 --> 03:09:47,861
Given the budget, I think
it stands up quite well.

3993
03:09:50,689 --> 03:09:52,976
People seem to like it,
especially in the States

3994
03:09:53,000 --> 03:09:53,804
when I go there.

3995
03:09:53,827 --> 03:09:55,182
They say, we love it.

3996
03:09:55,206 --> 03:09:57,078
I say, what do
you like about it?

3997
03:09:57,102 --> 03:10:00,931
They say it's so cheesy,
we just love it.

3998
03:10:05,000 --> 03:10:06,182
Maybe it is a bit cheesy,

3999
03:10:06,206 --> 03:10:08,078
but it's cheesy and fun,

4000
03:10:08,102 --> 03:10:10,217
and the effects were
really well done,

4001
03:10:10,240 --> 03:10:12,941
and hopefully the acting's okay.

4002
03:10:12,965 --> 03:10:14,172
Look, Manny.

4003
03:10:15,379 --> 03:10:18,802
The guy's weird, the
story's weird, and-

4004
03:10:18,826 --> 03:10:19,631
And what?

4005
03:10:19,656 --> 03:10:21,000
And you're weird.

4006
03:10:29,792 --> 03:10:32,630
"Class of Nuke 'Em High",
like all Troma movies,

4007
03:10:32,655 --> 03:10:36,458
was a movie ripped
from today's headlines.

4008
03:10:36,481 --> 03:10:39,493
There was a nuclear
power plant being built

4009
03:10:39,516 --> 03:10:42,388
about a quarter of a mile
away from the United States'

4010
03:10:42,413 --> 03:10:45,527
most populous city,
namely New York City.

4011
03:10:45,550 --> 03:10:47,043
And right next to where I lived,

4012
03:10:47,067 --> 03:10:50,217
so that gave me the idea
of let's talk about that.

4013
03:10:50,240 --> 03:10:52,458
But sir, if we could just
shut down for 48 hours-

4014
03:10:52,481 --> 03:10:53,769
Shut down?

4015
03:10:53,792 --> 03:10:55,010
They'll investigate us.

4016
03:10:55,033 --> 03:10:56,527
The EPA, the NRC.

4017
03:10:56,550 --> 03:10:59,837
"Class of Nuke 'Em High" is
like a Cuisinart of genres.

4018
03:10:59,861 --> 03:11:03,010
People really enjoyed the
mixture of humor and horror,

4019
03:11:03,033 --> 03:11:07,067
and social satire, and
politics, and violence.

4020
03:11:10,620 --> 03:11:11,734
It's an excellent film.

4021
03:11:11,757 --> 03:11:13,182
It's very entertaining.

4022
03:11:13,206 --> 03:11:16,630
It's got something to say
about pollution and radiation.

4023
03:11:16,655 --> 03:11:17,941
We have found no connection

4024
03:11:17,965 --> 03:11:19,976
between that unfortunate student

4025
03:11:20,000 --> 03:11:21,182
and this facility.

4026
03:11:21,206 --> 03:11:22,493
I almost killed
one of my kids in it.

4027
03:11:22,516 --> 03:11:23,906
That was kinda fun.

4028
03:11:23,931 --> 03:11:26,665
We had to have a motorcycle
run into a bake sale

4029
03:11:26,689 --> 03:11:28,976
with a lot of women with cakes,

4030
03:11:29,000 --> 03:11:31,286
and I put my wife and kid
right in the center of it,

4031
03:11:31,309 --> 03:11:33,931
so that if anybody got
hurt, you know, my fault.

4032
03:11:35,896 --> 03:11:38,561
Nothing happened, but
they came pretty close.

4033
03:11:38,585 --> 03:11:40,527
Well, the whole idea of
blowing up your school,

4034
03:11:40,550 --> 03:11:41,802
I always loved that.

4035
03:11:41,826 --> 03:11:43,251
And I think that was
one of the reasons

4036
03:11:43,274 --> 03:11:44,354
it was successful.

4037
03:11:44,379 --> 03:11:46,309
We literally destroyed a school.

4038
03:11:50,033 --> 03:11:51,700
Once it got into theaters,

4039
03:11:51,724 --> 03:11:53,561
we made over 100 prints.

4040
03:11:53,585 --> 03:11:56,458
A video cassette company called
Media Home Entertainment,

4041
03:11:56,481 --> 03:11:59,976
they sold over 500,000
video cassettes

4042
03:12:00,000 --> 03:12:02,724
around 200 bucks for
a video cassette.

4043
03:12:04,343 --> 03:12:05,595
You know, "Class
of Nuke 'Em High"

4044
03:12:05,620 --> 03:12:08,286
is still very popular with fans.

4045
03:12:08,309 --> 03:12:09,493
Nostalgic, too.

4046
03:12:09,516 --> 03:12:10,941
We've got all these young people

4047
03:12:10,965 --> 03:12:12,424
who are now in their 50s

4048
03:12:12,448 --> 03:12:14,493
who still like "Class
of Nuke 'Em High".

4049
03:12:14,516 --> 03:12:17,172
They want to see
the future, but now.

4050
03:12:19,240 --> 03:12:20,700
It's a good movie.

4051
03:12:20,724 --> 03:12:22,665
It's so good that there's
"Subhumanoid Meltdown:

4052
03:12:22,689 --> 03:12:24,112
"Class of Nuke 'Em High Part 2",

4053
03:12:24,137 --> 03:12:25,734
"The Good the Bad
and the Subhumanoid:

4054
03:12:25,757 --> 03:12:27,424
"Class of Nuke 'Em High Part 3".

4055
03:12:27,448 --> 03:12:28,941
There are five of them.

4056
03:12:28,965 --> 03:12:30,147
Tromaville High School will be

4057
03:12:30,172 --> 03:12:32,102
temporarily closed
for remodeling.

4058
03:12:33,067 --> 03:12:34,620
All right!

4059
03:12:41,861 --> 03:12:44,240
This is actually
based on a true story.

4060
03:12:45,240 --> 03:12:46,493
"The Zero Boys".

4061
03:12:46,516 --> 03:12:49,976
Dawn of a new breed of heroes.

4062
03:12:50,000 --> 03:12:52,319
This really did happen
upstate California.

4063
03:12:52,343 --> 03:12:54,976
There was a group of people
that would go paintballing,

4064
03:12:55,000 --> 03:12:57,379
and there was a maniac
that would kill them.

4065
03:13:00,792 --> 03:13:04,078
Somebody said I'm gonna write
a movie about this, and did.

4066
03:13:04,102 --> 03:13:05,837
In the movie, there's a
group, and they're called

4067
03:13:05,861 --> 03:13:09,010
the Zero Boys, because they
never, ever, ever, ever win.

4068
03:13:09,033 --> 03:13:10,871
But this one time, they won.

4069
03:13:10,896 --> 03:13:11,896
Do it.

4070
03:13:12,620 --> 03:13:14,769
The Zero Boys are the best!

4071
03:13:14,792 --> 03:13:16,286
Fucking assholes.

4072
03:13:16,309 --> 03:13:18,871
And they won my character.

4073
03:13:18,896 --> 03:13:21,595
And so she's very
unhappy about that.

4074
03:13:21,620 --> 03:13:24,837
I am so thrilled to
be with the champions.

4075
03:13:24,861 --> 03:13:26,043
Go on.

4076
03:13:26,067 --> 03:13:27,458
Show me what makes
the Zero Boys tick.

4077
03:13:27,481 --> 03:13:29,388
So they get up there,
and all of a sudden

4078
03:13:29,413 --> 03:13:30,389
something is wrong.

4079
03:13:30,414 --> 03:13:32,067
Jamie.

4080
03:13:37,102 --> 03:13:40,078
It was kind of more getting
into the torture thing,

4081
03:13:40,102 --> 03:13:42,102
like really kind
of sick and weird.

4082
03:13:44,655 --> 03:13:46,424
Directed by Nico Mastorakis,

4083
03:13:46,448 --> 03:13:51,010
who was this Greek guy who loved
action exploitation horror.

4084
03:13:51,033 --> 03:13:54,319
And Nico just delivers this
powerhouse of action movie

4085
03:13:54,343 --> 03:13:56,112
mixed with horror.

4086
03:13:56,137 --> 03:13:58,112
The running and the
hanging by our feet

4087
03:13:58,137 --> 03:13:59,665
and all that other
kind of stuff,

4088
03:13:59,689 --> 03:14:03,112
a lot of inventiveness with
weapons, and crossbows,

4089
03:14:03,137 --> 03:14:04,689
and things like that.

4090
03:14:06,206 --> 03:14:08,251
And this movie is
brilliantly photographed

4091
03:14:08,274 --> 03:14:09,769
by Steve Shaw.

4092
03:14:09,792 --> 03:14:11,734
Every shot of that movie
is almost like a painting,

4093
03:14:11,757 --> 03:14:14,700
especially when they're
out in the wilderness.

4094
03:14:14,724 --> 03:14:16,217
It was a lot of running
around in the woods,

4095
03:14:16,240 --> 03:14:17,458
that's for sure.

4096
03:14:17,481 --> 03:14:18,837
Everybody camped
together and went

4097
03:14:18,861 --> 03:14:20,700
we have a serious problem here.

4098
03:14:20,724 --> 03:14:21,871
What are we going to do?

4099
03:14:21,896 --> 03:14:23,976
And did it as a group.

4100
03:14:24,000 --> 03:14:26,182
You have to get engaged
with the characters,

4101
03:14:26,206 --> 03:14:28,527
and care about them,
or relate to them,

4102
03:14:28,550 --> 03:14:31,147
or have an opinion about them.

4103
03:14:31,172 --> 03:14:32,941
If you don't know
who these people are

4104
03:14:32,965 --> 03:14:35,319
on an intimate level,
then you don't care.

4105
03:14:35,343 --> 03:14:37,206
We wanna care.

4106
03:14:39,516 --> 03:14:41,112
My favorite kill
in "The Zero Boys",

4107
03:14:41,137 --> 03:14:43,251
he falls into this
pit of spikes,

4108
03:14:43,274 --> 03:14:44,861
and then you can't get out.

4109
03:14:48,620 --> 03:14:51,067
But it was a good kill.

4110
03:14:53,861 --> 03:14:55,802
Joe Estevez played the killer,

4111
03:14:55,826 --> 03:14:58,010
and he looks exactly
like Martin Sheen.

4112
03:14:58,033 --> 03:15:00,182
Probably scarier, because
he has more experience

4113
03:15:00,206 --> 03:15:02,240
doing these kinds of things.

4114
03:15:06,343 --> 03:15:08,700
It was Hans Zimmer's
first American score.

4115
03:15:08,724 --> 03:15:10,481
Frank Darabont was on the crew.

4116
03:15:12,206 --> 03:15:14,251
I remember he was
telling us all about

4117
03:15:14,274 --> 03:15:16,286
how he had a story
that he bought

4118
03:15:16,309 --> 03:15:18,078
from Stephen King for a dollar,

4119
03:15:18,102 --> 03:15:20,826
and it was "Shawshank
Redemption".

4120
03:15:23,102 --> 03:15:25,906
"The Zero Boys" is under the
radar because it always was.

4121
03:15:25,931 --> 03:15:27,871
It was always an
underground thing.

4122
03:15:27,896 --> 03:15:29,251
What's scary about
"The Zero Boys"

4123
03:15:29,274 --> 03:15:31,354
is you could be doing
something that you love to do,

4124
03:15:31,379 --> 03:15:32,724
and be in mortal danger.

4125
03:15:34,861 --> 03:15:36,861
There's no place safe.

4126
03:15:47,309 --> 03:15:50,871
My real name is George Tani.

4127
03:15:50,896 --> 03:15:53,010
Growing up, I was very impressed

4128
03:15:53,033 --> 03:15:55,112
with Ray Harry Haroldon movies.

4129
03:15:55,137 --> 03:15:57,388
"Jason and the Argonauts".

4130
03:15:57,413 --> 03:15:59,769
My dad took me to the theater.

4131
03:15:59,792 --> 03:16:02,734
He said it's gonna be fun,
it's gonna be a fighting movie.

4132
03:16:02,757 --> 03:16:04,043
It's like a skeleton, you
know, you're gonna like it.

4133
03:16:04,067 --> 03:16:06,286
And I said oh, that's great.

4134
03:16:06,309 --> 03:16:09,147
I have been watching
"Godzilla", and all those,

4135
03:16:09,172 --> 03:16:11,010
tojo and kaiju films.

4136
03:16:11,033 --> 03:16:13,516
When I saw "Howling".

4137
03:16:18,000 --> 03:16:22,665
The first time I saw the man
turned into the werewolf,

4138
03:16:22,689 --> 03:16:25,078
changing right in
front of my eye,

4139
03:16:25,102 --> 03:16:28,067
I was like, this is it.

4140
03:16:33,550 --> 03:16:36,527
And then you see more coming up

4141
03:16:36,550 --> 03:16:39,319
from Rick Baker, and Rob Bottin.

4142
03:16:39,343 --> 03:16:43,206
And then Dick Smith's
"Altered States".

4143
03:16:46,481 --> 03:16:50,871
The images of that
really made me decide

4144
03:16:50,896 --> 03:16:52,931
this is the way to go.

4145
03:16:58,000 --> 03:17:01,319
When I went to New
York studying in school

4146
03:17:01,343 --> 03:17:05,481
of visual arts, right in the
beginning of punk movement.

4147
03:17:06,413 --> 03:17:07,976
♪ God save the queen

4148
03:17:08,000 --> 03:17:10,010
I saw the art side of it.

4149
03:17:10,033 --> 03:17:13,251
Punk music really
gave me the art,

4150
03:17:13,274 --> 03:17:16,010
okay, we can do a
lot more on edge.

4151
03:17:16,033 --> 03:17:20,000
I can perform something
shocking to the people.

4152
03:17:21,826 --> 03:17:25,424
"Nightmare 4", my effect
was Debbie's roach,

4153
03:17:25,448 --> 03:17:26,941
the girl that hates
the cockroach,

4154
03:17:26,965 --> 03:17:28,424
and then she
becomes a cockroach,

4155
03:17:28,448 --> 03:17:32,217
and then crushed by Freddie.

4156
03:17:32,240 --> 03:17:36,630
That's like Kafka, you know?

4157
03:17:36,655 --> 03:17:39,319
And this is a surreal sequence.

4158
03:17:39,343 --> 03:17:41,182
The fake body, we take it off

4159
03:17:41,206 --> 03:17:43,112
so she can put her head out,

4160
03:17:43,137 --> 03:17:45,734
and fake arm, it breaks.

4161
03:17:45,757 --> 03:17:48,734
It's old trick, but the images,

4162
03:17:48,757 --> 03:17:51,896
and what happening,
really creep them out.

4163
03:17:52,792 --> 03:17:54,620
Everybody is like really, ugh!

4164
03:17:56,516 --> 03:17:57,976
That's gross!

4165
03:17:58,000 --> 03:18:00,620
I succeeded the illusion.

4166
03:18:01,620 --> 03:18:04,343
I'm very proud of that show.

4167
03:18:10,067 --> 03:18:11,251
It was Brian Yuzna.

4168
03:18:11,274 --> 03:18:13,976
We were really creating
the scene together.

4169
03:18:14,000 --> 03:18:16,217
Especially the
chanting sequence.

4170
03:18:16,240 --> 03:18:21,000
It's a real grotesque orgy.

4171
03:18:26,000 --> 03:18:27,493
I love Dali.

4172
03:18:27,516 --> 03:18:31,769
Dali is the one that
made me really into art.

4173
03:18:31,792 --> 03:18:34,734
My crew was all
inside, you know?

4174
03:18:34,757 --> 03:18:36,976
Inside of that creature.

4175
03:18:37,000 --> 03:18:38,182
They can move.

4176
03:18:38,206 --> 03:18:41,595
That's why you don't
have to have expensive

4177
03:18:41,620 --> 03:18:43,481
mechanical movement, you know?

4178
03:18:44,689 --> 03:18:47,102
And the people can
move organically.

4179
03:18:51,102 --> 03:18:54,561
I put in my 200, 300% on it.

4180
03:18:54,585 --> 03:18:58,217
So my sleeping time is
really maybe average

4181
03:18:58,240 --> 03:19:00,458
of two hours a
day, or something,

4182
03:19:00,481 --> 03:19:02,274
during the show.

4183
03:19:03,620 --> 03:19:05,700
There was not much
budget, so I just have to

4184
03:19:05,724 --> 03:19:08,493
sculpt everything
myself, pretty much.

4185
03:19:08,516 --> 03:19:10,102
And fast.

4186
03:19:14,379 --> 03:19:16,700
Making things for
"Bride of Re-Animator",

4187
03:19:16,724 --> 03:19:19,976
we didn't have enough
time to shoot everything

4188
03:19:20,000 --> 03:19:21,147
that we wanted to do.

4189
03:19:21,172 --> 03:19:23,354
It was very rushed.

4190
03:19:23,379 --> 03:19:26,251
Herbert West, he does
a bunch of experiments,

4191
03:19:26,274 --> 03:19:30,000
so I can do so many
different idea.

4192
03:19:34,826 --> 03:19:38,561
The design comes in as
outrageous as possible.

4193
03:19:38,585 --> 03:19:42,861
You stupid biped!

4194
03:19:44,137 --> 03:19:49,112
Vietnam veteran,
Noble Craig, is an actor

4195
03:19:49,137 --> 03:19:51,147
who is amputee.

4196
03:19:51,172 --> 03:19:54,595
I've been working with him
since "Poltergeist II".

4197
03:19:54,620 --> 03:19:58,147
The vomit creature,
crawl across the room,

4198
03:19:58,172 --> 03:20:00,516
that is Craig.

4199
03:20:05,343 --> 03:20:07,493
And then "Big Trouble
in Little China",

4200
03:20:07,516 --> 03:20:11,147
sewer creature, the creature
comes out from a tunnel,

4201
03:20:11,172 --> 03:20:13,595
eats the guy, and then
comes back, right?

4202
03:20:13,620 --> 03:20:15,182
That's it.

4203
03:20:15,206 --> 03:20:17,769
It took three months to make it.

4204
03:20:17,792 --> 03:20:20,906
That too, Noble
Craig is inside there

4205
03:20:20,931 --> 03:20:22,493
in special makeup effects.

4206
03:20:22,516 --> 03:20:26,527
I think that is one of
the evolutional happenings

4207
03:20:26,550 --> 03:20:29,595
happened in film industry.

4208
03:20:29,620 --> 03:20:34,620
When I was in Japan, first
I call myself Toshusi Mad,

4209
03:20:35,861 --> 03:20:37,595
and then I wanted
to have something

4210
03:20:37,620 --> 03:20:39,424
that is really crazy.

4211
03:20:39,448 --> 03:20:43,906
Mad is something that is
much more crazier than crazy,

4212
03:20:43,931 --> 03:20:45,595
I think, you know what I mean?

4213
03:20:45,620 --> 03:20:46,655
More power with it.

4214
03:20:47,861 --> 03:20:50,941
And then I remember
the blues singer

4215
03:20:50,965 --> 03:20:53,826
named Screaming Jay Hawkins.

4216
03:20:54,757 --> 03:20:59,112
If I use Screaming Mad George.

4217
03:20:59,137 --> 03:21:00,837
That sounds good.

4218
03:21:00,861 --> 03:21:04,067
Screaming Mad George
is my artist name.

4219
03:21:23,448 --> 03:21:26,078
"Witchboard".

4220
03:21:26,102 --> 03:21:28,251
"Witchboard" is the
reason I will not allow

4221
03:21:28,274 --> 03:21:30,665
a Ouija board in my
house to this day.

4222
03:21:30,689 --> 03:21:32,550
Don't come into my house
with a Ouija board.

4223
03:21:36,102 --> 03:21:37,734
All I ever wanted
to do was figure out

4224
03:21:37,757 --> 03:21:38,837
where I could get a Ouija board.

4225
03:21:38,861 --> 03:21:40,595
I wanna try this thing out.

4226
03:21:40,620 --> 03:21:41,620
Can you hear me?

4227
03:21:44,826 --> 03:21:48,493
That movie came out
right at the right time

4228
03:21:48,516 --> 03:21:49,689
for my puberty.

4229
03:21:50,861 --> 03:21:55,516
Tawny Kitaen, the
quintessential wow.

4230
03:21:56,689 --> 03:21:59,493
I had already seen her
in "Bachelor Party".

4231
03:21:59,516 --> 03:22:01,837
I'd seen her in all the
fucking Whitesnake videos

4232
03:22:01,861 --> 03:22:02,861
at that point.

4233
03:22:03,896 --> 03:22:06,354
♪ Well here I go
again on my own ♪

4234
03:22:06,379 --> 03:22:08,941
Doing flips on the cars,
and splits and things.

4235
03:22:08,965 --> 03:22:11,078
It was very impressive.

4236
03:22:11,102 --> 03:22:12,620
I'd really like to try this.

4237
03:22:16,240 --> 03:22:18,217
"Witchboard" is about somebody

4238
03:22:18,240 --> 03:22:21,424
who becomes obsessed
with the Ouija board.

4239
03:22:21,448 --> 03:22:23,769
David, do you remember me?

4240
03:22:23,792 --> 03:22:28,792
A Ouija board that then
opens the portal of hell

4241
03:22:29,379 --> 03:22:30,458
to a demon.

4242
03:22:30,481 --> 03:22:32,067
Ooh, that's a little spooky.

4243
03:22:32,965 --> 03:22:33,770
It's a little stupid.

4244
03:22:33,793 --> 03:22:35,424
It's a lot stupid.

4245
03:22:35,448 --> 03:22:38,871
The visceral horror and
gore that starts to happen

4246
03:22:38,896 --> 03:22:42,112
once the horror is
unleashed in "Witchboard".

4247
03:22:42,137 --> 03:22:43,976
It really scared
the crap out of me

4248
03:22:44,000 --> 03:22:45,448
in a really fun way.

4249
03:22:48,206 --> 03:22:49,527
It's the very first
film that we got

4250
03:22:49,550 --> 03:22:50,769
from Kevin Tenney.

4251
03:22:50,792 --> 03:22:53,700
This was a precursor to
"Night of the Demons".

4252
03:22:53,724 --> 03:22:55,700
He starts to frighten
and terrorize her,

4253
03:22:55,724 --> 03:22:57,976
gradually breaking
down her resistance.

4254
03:22:58,000 --> 03:23:00,630
And once that's done,
he's able to possess her.

4255
03:23:00,655 --> 03:23:03,595
The thing that Kevin
Tenney brought to the table

4256
03:23:03,620 --> 03:23:06,595
that set him apart from other
directors I've worked with

4257
03:23:06,620 --> 03:23:10,516
was his sense of humor and
his passion for horror.

4258
03:23:13,689 --> 03:23:15,319
Ouija board was copyrighted

4259
03:23:15,343 --> 03:23:17,493
so that he couldn't call
his movie "Ouija Board",

4260
03:23:17,516 --> 03:23:19,251
so he changed it
to "Witchboard".

4261
03:23:19,274 --> 03:23:21,976
It's pronounced
Ouija, not Ouij-i.

4262
03:23:22,000 --> 03:23:24,976
It comes from the French
and German words for yes.

4263
03:23:25,000 --> 03:23:26,251
Oui and ja.

4264
03:23:26,274 --> 03:23:27,802
Ouija.

4265
03:23:27,826 --> 03:23:30,182
It was great working with
the late great Tawny Kitaen.

4266
03:23:30,206 --> 03:23:31,941
You must be Linda.

4267
03:23:31,965 --> 03:23:33,527
She was fun to act with.

4268
03:23:33,550 --> 03:23:35,182
She had a little brown dog

4269
03:23:35,206 --> 03:23:37,147
that she brought on
the set all the time.

4270
03:23:37,172 --> 03:23:38,906
Jim, this is Zarabeth.

4271
03:23:38,931 --> 03:23:41,067
The best medium in
northern California.

4272
03:23:42,000 --> 03:23:44,043
When we did that seance scene,

4273
03:23:44,067 --> 03:23:45,769
every time they'd say action,

4274
03:23:45,792 --> 03:23:48,319
and I'd go like, whoo.

4275
03:23:48,343 --> 03:23:50,217
Pretend like the
boy was in my body.

4276
03:23:50,240 --> 03:23:52,769
I'd look over at her and
she'd be like, ,

4277
03:23:52,792 --> 03:23:56,251
she'd start laughing, and
then we all start laughing.

4278
03:23:56,274 --> 03:23:58,286
And nobody could ever
pull it together.

4279
03:23:58,309 --> 03:24:00,561
And I was like, I can't do this!

4280
03:24:00,585 --> 03:24:02,043
It was so goofy.

4281
03:24:02,067 --> 03:24:05,112
But with the scary music,
when we finally got a take,

4282
03:24:05,137 --> 03:24:07,527
it worked, you know
they put a weird effect

4283
03:24:07,550 --> 03:24:09,319
on my voice or
something like that.

4284
03:24:09,343 --> 03:24:11,172
She hurt me.

4285
03:24:12,448 --> 03:24:14,424
She won't talk to me anymore.

4286
03:24:14,448 --> 03:24:17,792
Zarabeth to me is definitely
a highlight of "Witchboard".

4287
03:24:19,033 --> 03:24:22,078
Just some more psychic humor.

4288
03:24:22,102 --> 03:24:23,906
Come on Brandy, let's
hit the musky dusk.

4289
03:24:23,931 --> 03:24:26,689
Her death is so gnarly, too.

4290
03:24:31,102 --> 03:24:33,388
They'd say action,
and then I'd get to

4291
03:24:33,413 --> 03:24:36,251
pretend like I land
on the sundial,

4292
03:24:36,274 --> 03:24:39,388
and I had got one of those
blood pills in my mouth,

4293
03:24:39,413 --> 03:24:43,343
and I did get to go like,

4294
03:24:44,861 --> 03:24:47,595
and like split out blood,

4295
03:24:47,620 --> 03:24:49,595
which I adored.

4296
03:24:49,620 --> 03:24:53,976
They had taped the top
of the sundial to my back

4297
03:24:54,000 --> 03:24:58,286
so I ran down the set,

4298
03:24:58,309 --> 03:25:00,871
pretending like I was a shark.

4299
03:25:00,896 --> 03:25:02,379
I see danger ahead.

4300
03:25:04,102 --> 03:25:05,112
For Linda?

4301
03:25:05,137 --> 03:25:06,493
For you.

4302
03:25:06,516 --> 03:25:07,734
If you miss my house.

4303
03:25:07,757 --> 03:25:12,137
On "Witchboard", I had
so much fun laughing.

4304
03:25:13,620 --> 03:25:17,595
It's coming up on the right!

4305
03:25:17,620 --> 03:25:18,976
A little more
psychic humor, huh?

4306
03:25:19,000 --> 03:25:22,379
With tears and
belly laughs everyday.

4307
03:25:27,448 --> 03:25:28,458
Tawny Kitaen.

4308
03:25:28,481 --> 03:25:30,802
When I saw that she died,

4309
03:25:30,826 --> 03:25:32,976
I felt loss, and sadness.

4310
03:25:33,000 --> 03:25:35,837
She was a blast, and
funny, and smart,

4311
03:25:35,861 --> 03:25:39,043
and lovely, and it's
weird for me to even think

4312
03:25:39,067 --> 03:25:40,319
that she's not around.

4313
03:25:40,343 --> 03:25:42,067
It's bizarre to me.

4314
03:25:47,896 --> 03:25:51,217
"Blood Rage", also
known as "Slasher",

4315
03:25:51,240 --> 03:25:54,078
and "Nightmare at Shadow Woods".

4316
03:25:54,102 --> 03:25:55,630
I mean it's like,
make up your minds,

4317
03:25:55,655 --> 03:25:56,655
will you people?

4318
03:25:58,102 --> 03:26:00,837
There's so few
Thanksgiving horror movies,

4319
03:26:00,861 --> 03:26:04,043
that I feel like this has
kind of had a resurgence

4320
03:26:04,067 --> 03:26:06,769
in recent years,
because everybody wants

4321
03:26:06,792 --> 03:26:09,413
a horror movie to
watch on the holidays.

4322
03:26:15,448 --> 03:26:18,516
Twin boys, one crazy, one not.

4323
03:26:19,413 --> 03:26:20,458
There's a mix-up.

4324
03:26:20,481 --> 03:26:22,217
One gets put in an asylum.

4325
03:26:22,240 --> 03:26:23,734
One's out loose.

4326
03:26:23,757 --> 03:26:24,837
Nobody in the movie knows.

4327
03:26:24,861 --> 03:26:27,043
Everyone in the audience knows.

4328
03:26:27,067 --> 03:26:28,251
Here's to the new family.

4329
03:26:28,274 --> 03:26:30,147
"Blood Rage" is about
a Thanksgiving meal

4330
03:26:30,172 --> 03:26:33,424
that just goes completely
awash in blood.

4331
03:26:33,448 --> 03:26:35,112
I'm not a fan of horror.

4332
03:26:35,137 --> 03:26:36,941
When I got "Blood
Rage", it was a new

4333
03:26:36,965 --> 03:26:38,826
genre for me completely.

4334
03:26:40,309 --> 03:26:43,286
I went to the video store, and
went to the horror section.

4335
03:26:43,309 --> 03:26:46,078
I literally had to go
and investigate it.

4336
03:26:46,102 --> 03:26:49,010
What, are you gonna try
and shoot me again, Todd?

4337
03:26:49,033 --> 03:26:51,319
It's twins.

4338
03:26:51,343 --> 03:26:52,252
You know?

4339
03:26:52,275 --> 03:26:53,734
So I'm going, are they kidding?

4340
03:26:53,757 --> 03:26:55,286
Do they know what they're
getting involved with?

4341
03:26:55,309 --> 03:26:57,802
That's a chore for most
people in any film,

4342
03:26:57,826 --> 03:26:59,689
let alone on a low budget.

4343
03:27:01,067 --> 03:27:04,043
I broke it down, Stanislavski,
building a character.

4344
03:27:04,067 --> 03:27:06,388
The psychopath, you know?

4345
03:27:06,413 --> 03:27:10,906
And then the other guy was
closer to what I usually played,

4346
03:27:10,931 --> 03:27:12,976
the sort of hate
yourself, low esteem,

4347
03:27:13,000 --> 03:27:14,458
I'd played a couple
of prisoners,

4348
03:27:14,481 --> 03:27:16,906
and stuff like that,
and mixed up kids.

4349
03:27:16,931 --> 03:27:17,931
Very intense.

4350
03:27:24,689 --> 03:27:25,976
"Blood Rage" operates in a world

4351
03:27:26,000 --> 03:27:30,458
where it's the family
Thanksgiving and murder.

4352
03:27:30,481 --> 03:27:31,630
Looks like you're
gonna get a chance

4353
03:27:31,655 --> 03:27:33,424
to meet the rest of the family.

4354
03:27:33,448 --> 03:27:35,724
My psychotic brother
just escaped.

4355
03:27:36,965 --> 03:27:38,527
It's the turkey
and killing people.

4356
03:27:38,550 --> 03:27:40,010
It's rich.

4357
03:27:40,033 --> 03:27:44,700
I'd say that this big
bird is ready for carving.

4358
03:27:44,724 --> 03:27:47,493
Why does this make me so crazy?

4359
03:27:47,516 --> 03:27:49,561
Time to eat, let's all sit down.

4360
03:27:49,585 --> 03:27:51,043
It's time for dinner.

4361
03:27:51,067 --> 03:27:52,757
Look what the cat brought in!

4362
03:27:59,448 --> 03:28:03,251
Louise Lasser gives
110% in that movie.

4363
03:28:03,274 --> 03:28:04,976
She's incredible.

4364
03:28:05,000 --> 03:28:07,976
She was, god bless
her, a force of nature.

4365
03:28:08,000 --> 03:28:10,424
Mary Hartman was
seminal TV, man.

4366
03:28:10,448 --> 03:28:12,112
That was hot stuff.

4367
03:28:12,137 --> 03:28:14,941
You know, murder with
no reason, or no motive,

4368
03:28:14,965 --> 03:28:17,182
I mean really senseless,
when you think about it.

4369
03:28:17,206 --> 03:28:19,561
Do you think this is too
spicy, or not spicy enough?

4370
03:28:19,585 --> 03:28:21,837
She set the tone
for "Nightmare Mom".

4371
03:28:21,861 --> 03:28:24,112
She creates the
world for the film

4372
03:28:24,137 --> 03:28:25,137
Oh please.

4373
03:28:27,826 --> 03:28:29,965
Please don't do this to me.

4374
03:28:31,343 --> 03:28:33,217
She had that
voice, she would just

4375
03:28:33,240 --> 03:28:35,941
get into these states.

4376
03:28:35,965 --> 03:28:38,010
She was transformed.

4377
03:28:38,033 --> 03:28:40,112
Come give mommy a kiss.

4378
03:28:40,137 --> 03:28:42,112
That scene around
the refrigerator?

4379
03:28:42,137 --> 03:28:43,354
I mean, come on.

4380
03:28:43,379 --> 03:28:45,871
This is a woman who's
freaking out over food.

4381
03:28:45,896 --> 03:28:48,043
And it's so over the top.

4382
03:28:48,067 --> 03:28:50,527
I've been calling
you and calling you!

4383
03:28:50,550 --> 03:28:53,286
Why didn't you answer the phone?

4384
03:28:53,309 --> 03:28:54,458
Todd's here!

4385
03:28:54,481 --> 03:28:56,078
And he's killing again!

4386
03:28:56,102 --> 03:28:57,079
She was bringing it.

4387
03:28:57,103 --> 03:28:58,837
She got an applause on the set,

4388
03:28:58,861 --> 03:29:01,000
and I've only been
around that a few times.

4389
03:29:05,000 --> 03:29:06,182
It's bananas.

4390
03:29:06,206 --> 03:29:08,871
It's a movie where
no one in the movie

4391
03:29:08,896 --> 03:29:11,182
is making the same movie as
anyone else in the movie.

4392
03:29:11,206 --> 03:29:13,458
They're all singing
in their own key,

4393
03:29:13,481 --> 03:29:14,906
and the movie's all
the better for it.

4394
03:29:14,931 --> 03:29:16,620
It's unhinged, it's delightful.

4395
03:29:22,655 --> 03:29:24,769
Shooting a melodrama
like "Blood Rage"

4396
03:29:24,792 --> 03:29:26,319
is a whole different thing.

4397
03:29:26,343 --> 03:29:28,388
You can tear up the furniture.

4398
03:29:28,413 --> 03:29:33,206
You can do crazy stuff you
just don't normally get to do.

4399
03:29:37,896 --> 03:29:39,182
It's horror, low budget horror.

4400
03:29:39,206 --> 03:29:40,906
But this had a building audience

4401
03:29:40,931 --> 03:29:42,700
and a genre that had legs.

4402
03:29:42,724 --> 03:29:43,837
It was like heavy metal, man.

4403
03:29:43,861 --> 03:29:45,792
This ain't going away.

4404
03:29:48,448 --> 03:29:49,078
This is gonna be a
decades long thing.

4405
03:29:49,102 --> 03:29:50,102
Get used to it.

4406
03:29:51,000 --> 03:29:52,620
It's not cranberry sauce, Artie.

4407
03:29:55,102 --> 03:29:57,102
It's not cranberry sauce.

4408
03:30:03,033 --> 03:30:06,724
They have opened "The Gate".

4409
03:30:07,620 --> 03:30:09,458
Pray it's not too late.

4410
03:30:09,481 --> 03:30:11,630
One of the greatest
things about "The Gate"

4411
03:30:11,655 --> 03:30:13,561
is that for a lot of
kids at that time,

4412
03:30:13,585 --> 03:30:16,388
it became their
gateway horror movie,

4413
03:30:16,413 --> 03:30:18,769
because it felt
like a kids movie

4414
03:30:18,792 --> 03:30:22,182
that didn't play by
the kids movies rules.

4415
03:30:22,206 --> 03:30:23,148
Already filled it in.

4416
03:30:23,173 --> 03:30:25,043
Whoa, whoa!

4417
03:30:25,067 --> 03:30:26,871
"The Gate" is
about a group of kids

4418
03:30:26,896 --> 03:30:28,527
that dig a hole
in their backyard,

4419
03:30:28,550 --> 03:30:30,757
and find demons.

4420
03:30:31,965 --> 03:30:33,010
Hi.

4421
03:30:33,033 --> 03:30:34,033
Hey.

4422
03:30:38,343 --> 03:30:40,010
It's a PG-13 horror film.

4423
03:30:40,033 --> 03:30:41,595
I always saw it as a film

4424
03:30:41,620 --> 03:30:43,595
that the whole
family could watch,

4425
03:30:43,620 --> 03:30:46,665
that adults could
be sort of nostalgic

4426
03:30:46,689 --> 03:30:49,976
about growing up, and kids
could find an adventure in it.

4427
03:30:50,000 --> 03:30:51,182
Sacrifices.

4428
03:30:51,206 --> 03:30:53,078
We had so much fun
making that movie,

4429
03:30:53,102 --> 03:30:54,906
even though it was
very difficult.

4430
03:30:54,931 --> 03:30:56,147
Money was short.

4431
03:30:56,172 --> 03:30:58,251
All those people put
their heart into it.

4432
03:30:58,274 --> 03:31:01,620
The actors, the writers,
the special effects people.

4433
03:31:06,240 --> 03:31:09,976
We were able to pull the
most out of everybody.

4434
03:31:10,000 --> 03:31:12,585
The album, backwards!

4435
03:31:13,861 --> 03:31:15,700
Tells you how to close the gate.

4436
03:31:15,724 --> 03:31:19,078
It's like the first heavy
metal horror movie for kids.

4437
03:31:19,102 --> 03:31:20,630
They got their
lyrics from this thing

4438
03:31:20,655 --> 03:31:21,724
called the Dark Book.

4439
03:31:22,655 --> 03:31:24,286
It's like the Bible for demons.

4440
03:31:24,309 --> 03:31:25,595
So you have somebody like Tibor,

4441
03:31:25,620 --> 03:31:27,561
who had a background working

4442
03:31:27,585 --> 03:31:29,319
in heavy metal music videos

4443
03:31:29,343 --> 03:31:32,043
coming in and being
able to infuse that

4444
03:31:32,067 --> 03:31:35,413
into this kids movie
is pretty astounding.

4445
03:31:37,585 --> 03:31:40,424
It's always much
scarier when horror

4446
03:31:40,448 --> 03:31:43,274
comes into the normal world.

4447
03:31:45,343 --> 03:31:47,354
Stephen Dorff was
just so cool to me

4448
03:31:47,379 --> 03:31:48,769
when I was a kid.

4449
03:31:48,792 --> 03:31:51,112
It seemed like something
that could happen to me.

4450
03:31:51,137 --> 03:31:52,561
I could look down in my backyard

4451
03:31:52,585 --> 03:31:54,388
and I was always sure
there was the potential

4452
03:31:54,413 --> 03:31:56,965
for a portal, monsters.

4453
03:32:02,481 --> 03:32:04,802
I always feel kids
can make great actors

4454
03:32:04,826 --> 03:32:08,010
if you can key into them,
you treat them like adults.

4455
03:32:08,033 --> 03:32:09,493
When they're in the
right frame of mind,

4456
03:32:09,516 --> 03:32:10,976
you can do amazing things,

4457
03:32:11,000 --> 03:32:12,871
and get very real performances.

4458
03:32:12,896 --> 03:32:14,354
We have to close the gate.

4459
03:32:14,379 --> 03:32:16,217
We have to go to the
hole and do it right.

4460
03:32:16,240 --> 03:32:18,665
You mean you guys were
serious about that demon stuff?

4461
03:32:18,689 --> 03:32:20,595
The main theme
of "The Gate" to me

4462
03:32:20,620 --> 03:32:24,734
is sibling relationships
and friendship

4463
03:32:24,757 --> 03:32:27,630
to overcome insurmountable odds.

4464
03:32:27,655 --> 03:32:29,172
You need your friends.

4465
03:32:32,826 --> 03:32:34,527
I think of all the
effects that they were

4466
03:32:34,550 --> 03:32:37,379
able to do in that
movie courtesy of
Randall William Cook.

4467
03:32:42,448 --> 03:32:43,700
I was already reading Fangoria

4468
03:32:43,724 --> 03:32:45,561
and I was into the
effect part of it,

4469
03:32:45,585 --> 03:32:47,837
like the technical part
of horror filmmaking.

4470
03:32:47,861 --> 03:32:50,734
I knew that we would have to
use an encyclopedia of effects.

4471
03:32:50,757 --> 03:32:53,147
There was no one solution
to all that stuff.

4472
03:32:53,172 --> 03:32:55,837
And thank goodness
that Randy was so good

4473
03:32:55,861 --> 03:32:57,861
at all of those things.

4474
03:33:01,792 --> 03:33:03,458
When the workman falls over
and breaks into the minions,

4475
03:33:03,481 --> 03:33:06,906
that to me is like a
seminal important moment

4476
03:33:06,931 --> 03:33:08,665
in the movie where you go wow.

4477
03:33:08,689 --> 03:33:10,516
Even I go wow.

4478
03:33:13,516 --> 03:33:16,941
But it is still cool as
hell to watch that sequence,

4479
03:33:16,965 --> 03:33:18,976
and I wish we got more movies

4480
03:33:19,000 --> 03:33:20,802
that tried to do stuff
like that more these days.

4481
03:33:20,826 --> 03:33:23,217
Like, I don't care if
it looks a little dated.

4482
03:33:23,240 --> 03:33:24,148
I don't.

4483
03:33:24,173 --> 03:33:25,413
Because it's still magic to me.

4484
03:33:26,689 --> 03:33:28,630
It's like a bespoke movie.

4485
03:33:28,655 --> 03:33:30,043
It's handmade.

4486
03:33:30,067 --> 03:33:31,630
It's kind of rough around
the edges that way.

4487
03:33:31,655 --> 03:33:33,595
That's what draws people to it.

4488
03:33:33,620 --> 03:33:35,620
They can see the love
that went into it.

4489
03:33:46,481 --> 03:33:48,354
"Rock 'n' Roll
Nightmare" is the story

4490
03:33:48,379 --> 03:33:52,561
of a band called The
Tritons, led by Thor,

4491
03:33:52,585 --> 03:33:56,700
who was a very popular
wrestler, rock and roller.

4492
03:33:56,724 --> 03:33:59,010
He was very popular
up in Canada.

4493
03:33:59,033 --> 03:34:03,251
So this band comes to
this tiny little farmhouse

4494
03:34:03,274 --> 03:34:05,112
on the outskirts of Toronto

4495
03:34:05,137 --> 03:34:07,837
to record their new album.

4496
03:34:07,861 --> 03:34:09,354
It's kind of like a vacation.

4497
03:34:09,379 --> 03:34:11,630
I like it.

4498
03:34:11,655 --> 03:34:12,458
You would.

4499
03:34:12,481 --> 03:34:13,287
Come on you two.

4500
03:34:13,310 --> 03:34:14,561
Don't start.

4501
03:34:14,585 --> 03:34:15,941
It turns out that
they are in a house

4502
03:34:15,965 --> 03:34:18,931
that had been possessed.

4503
03:34:21,965 --> 03:34:24,388
And one by one, they
start being killed off

4504
03:34:24,413 --> 03:34:25,931
by these demos.

4505
03:34:30,448 --> 03:34:31,493
Kind of this quirky movie

4506
03:34:31,516 --> 03:34:33,286
directed by John Fasano.

4507
03:34:33,309 --> 03:34:34,906
It's hard to call
these things demons.

4508
03:34:34,931 --> 03:34:35,965
They're puppets.

4509
03:34:37,550 --> 03:34:38,630
I can destroy and destruct-

4510
03:34:40,172 --> 03:34:43,976
Demons that are rejects
from Fraggle Rock.

4511
03:34:44,000 --> 03:34:46,871
We talked so much
about the glorious age

4512
03:34:46,896 --> 03:34:48,871
of practical effects of the 80s,

4513
03:34:48,896 --> 03:34:52,655
but sometimes, they
were not so glorious.

4514
03:34:58,102 --> 03:34:59,734
My favorite monster effect

4515
03:34:59,757 --> 03:35:02,595
in "Rock 'n' Roll Nightmare"
is one that I did.

4516
03:35:02,620 --> 03:35:03,931
The chicken monster.

4517
03:35:06,240 --> 03:35:08,424
That was a really fun
project to work on.

4518
03:35:08,448 --> 03:35:10,413
And then I got to puppeteer it.

4519
03:35:14,792 --> 03:35:17,112
Jon Thor is a sweetheart.

4520
03:35:17,137 --> 03:35:18,527
He's always so positive.

4521
03:35:18,550 --> 03:35:20,251
He was up for anything.

4522
03:35:20,274 --> 03:35:22,941
♪ You get me any day

4523
03:35:22,965 --> 03:35:24,147
♪ Energy

4524
03:35:24,172 --> 03:35:26,906
It was November,
and we had that wind

4525
03:35:26,931 --> 03:35:28,665
coming off of Lake Ontario,

4526
03:35:28,689 --> 03:35:30,941
hitting you like a brick wall.

4527
03:35:30,965 --> 03:35:32,595
This house that we
were shooting in,

4528
03:35:32,620 --> 03:35:35,700
which had no electricity,
had no hot water,

4529
03:35:35,724 --> 03:35:38,976
and they're in a shower,
buck naked in this shower,

4530
03:35:39,000 --> 03:35:41,630
freezing to death.

4531
03:35:41,655 --> 03:35:44,354
I mean, that water was ice cold.

4532
03:35:44,379 --> 03:35:47,516
But the ending is
not to be missed.

4533
03:35:50,757 --> 03:35:53,941
I walked onto set, and
I saw Jon standing there

4534
03:35:53,965 --> 03:35:57,630
in this little gold
speedo, and codpiece,

4535
03:35:57,655 --> 03:36:00,182
and this gold lame cape.

4536
03:36:00,206 --> 03:36:01,458
And at one point, I looked over,

4537
03:36:01,481 --> 03:36:03,802
and I could see his
cape was starting

4538
03:36:03,826 --> 03:36:05,941
to spark and catch fire.

4539
03:36:05,965 --> 03:36:07,458
Oh my god, that would have been

4540
03:36:07,481 --> 03:36:10,413
just the icing on
the cake for sure.

4541
03:36:12,620 --> 03:36:14,871
Of course, you gotta love
the big devil at the end.

4542
03:36:14,896 --> 03:36:17,000
It was a disaster.

4543
03:36:18,137 --> 03:36:19,388
Nice effect, Randy.

4544
03:36:19,413 --> 03:36:21,043
It weighed 50 pounds at least.

4545
03:36:21,067 --> 03:36:23,043
And it was so unwieldy.

4546
03:36:23,067 --> 03:36:24,861
It was just a mess.

4547
03:36:26,000 --> 03:36:27,561
But of course that's
the scene that everybody

4548
03:36:27,585 --> 03:36:30,665
loves the most in that movie,
because it's so outrageous.

4549
03:36:30,689 --> 03:36:32,826
Like you have to see
this to believe it.

4550
03:36:46,206 --> 03:36:48,424
"Jaws" follows in a
line of horror films

4551
03:36:48,448 --> 03:36:51,585
where nature is out to kill you.

4552
03:36:54,000 --> 03:36:57,319
"Jaws: The Revenge".

4553
03:36:57,343 --> 03:37:00,182
It's just the idea
that meeting a shark

4554
03:37:00,206 --> 03:37:01,837
face to face in the water

4555
03:37:01,861 --> 03:37:05,792
is more likely than finding
Jason Voorhees in the water.

4556
03:37:07,240 --> 03:37:08,976
The Jaws sequels were
never like the first movie,

4557
03:37:09,000 --> 03:37:10,837
and so anytime they
sequelize something,

4558
03:37:10,861 --> 03:37:12,976
it was like, oh god,
what are they gonna do?

4559
03:37:13,000 --> 03:37:15,769
Lorraine Gary,
who once again stars

4560
03:37:15,792 --> 03:37:18,112
as Chief Brody's
wife, now a widow,

4561
03:37:18,137 --> 03:37:20,286
she travels to the Bahamas,

4562
03:37:20,309 --> 03:37:22,078
and what do you know?

4563
03:37:22,102 --> 03:37:25,206
That goddam shark
is still after her.

4564
03:37:33,516 --> 03:37:36,147
And she's convinced
that the shark

4565
03:37:36,172 --> 03:37:38,147
is following her family,

4566
03:37:38,172 --> 03:37:41,043
and she seems to have
some telepathic link

4567
03:37:41,067 --> 03:37:42,585
with the shark.

4568
03:37:45,931 --> 03:37:48,620
It's such a far cry from
Spielberg's original.

4569
03:37:50,481 --> 03:37:53,286
Just like the idea of a
shark being a slasher movie

4570
03:37:53,309 --> 03:37:56,424
villain that's gonna
follow these people

4571
03:37:56,448 --> 03:37:59,769
from Amity Island
to the Bahamas.

4572
03:37:59,792 --> 03:38:02,527
It has a grudge against
the Brody family.

4573
03:38:02,550 --> 03:38:04,802
It's just absolutely ridiculous.

4574
03:38:04,826 --> 03:38:06,458
- Their family-
- What shark is this?

4575
03:38:06,481 --> 03:38:07,769
A friend of the other shark.

4576
03:38:07,792 --> 03:38:09,010
Is this like a cousin, a nephew?

4577
03:38:09,033 --> 03:38:09,977
You got it.

4578
03:38:10,001 --> 03:38:11,043
They just

4579
03:38:11,067 --> 03:38:12,906
put that movie
together, really quick.

4580
03:38:12,931 --> 03:38:14,837
They cast all of us
before they even made

4581
03:38:14,861 --> 03:38:17,112
the arrangements with
the special effects guys.

4582
03:38:17,137 --> 03:38:19,354
They kind of did them
almost at the last minute,

4583
03:38:19,379 --> 03:38:20,769
and they were like,
wait a minute.

4584
03:38:20,792 --> 03:38:23,561
We can't do this, what
you wrote in the script.

4585
03:38:23,585 --> 03:38:25,286
We can do something like this,

4586
03:38:25,309 --> 03:38:26,976
but we can't do that.

4587
03:38:27,000 --> 03:38:29,354
So they had to
rewrite the scripts.

4588
03:38:29,379 --> 03:38:30,837
I got a script that I thought

4589
03:38:30,861 --> 03:38:32,147
oh, this is a pretty
good script, you know?

4590
03:38:32,172 --> 03:38:33,665
I believe it, I play this guy.

4591
03:38:33,689 --> 03:38:35,217
Everything this guy
does makes sense.

4592
03:38:35,240 --> 03:38:36,665
This is not gonna be stupid.

4593
03:38:36,689 --> 03:38:38,112
It's gonna be great.

4594
03:38:38,137 --> 03:38:39,837
About three days before
we started shooting,

4595
03:38:39,861 --> 03:38:41,458
I get a new script

4596
03:38:41,481 --> 03:38:43,665
that accommodates all
the technical stuff

4597
03:38:43,689 --> 03:38:45,837
that can be done.

4598
03:38:45,861 --> 03:38:48,493
For me, was like, oh god.

4599
03:38:48,516 --> 03:38:50,458
I couldn't make sense of it,

4600
03:38:50,481 --> 03:38:52,240
so I was pissed
off all the time.

4601
03:38:53,655 --> 03:38:56,286
We were like that, you just
try not to make it unbelievable

4602
03:38:56,309 --> 03:38:58,309
and it's hard.

4603
03:39:03,448 --> 03:39:06,240
I didn't know sharks
sound like that.

4604
03:39:08,172 --> 03:39:09,448
Jesus Christ!

4605
03:39:12,655 --> 03:39:14,802
What's great about
it is Christmas.

4606
03:39:14,826 --> 03:39:16,354
Who saw that coming?

4607
03:39:16,379 --> 03:39:19,665
Like, "Jaws 4: The
Revenge", Christmas Jaws.

4608
03:39:19,689 --> 03:39:21,665
♪ The first noel

4609
03:39:21,689 --> 03:39:23,354
♪ The angels

4610
03:39:23,379 --> 03:39:24,976
We blew through
most of the acting

4611
03:39:25,000 --> 03:39:27,493
in three weeks in that movie.

4612
03:39:27,516 --> 03:39:29,458
I was on that movie
for five months.

4613
03:39:29,481 --> 03:39:32,527
So there was a lot of
sitting out in the ocean.

4614
03:39:32,550 --> 03:39:35,734
We spent months
sitting doing nothing

4615
03:39:35,757 --> 03:39:37,240
because the shark didn't work.

4616
03:39:38,413 --> 03:39:39,595
We were shooting this one scene,

4617
03:39:39,620 --> 03:39:41,769
and it was in a little,
little tiny rowboat.

4618
03:39:41,792 --> 03:39:43,251
The whole boat goes down.

4619
03:39:43,274 --> 03:39:45,906
The battery pack that
powers the camera

4620
03:39:45,931 --> 03:39:48,871
is encased in plastic,
but it might leak.

4621
03:39:48,896 --> 03:39:51,976
So as soon as that
becomes submerged,

4622
03:39:52,000 --> 03:39:54,976
this hand grabs me by the shirt

4623
03:39:55,000 --> 03:39:57,182
with one hand, yanks
me out of the boat.

4624
03:39:57,206 --> 03:39:58,113
It was Michael Caine.

4625
03:39:58,138 --> 03:40:00,354
Get the fuck out of that boat!

4626
03:40:00,379 --> 03:40:01,734
I mean, I don't know that I
would have been electrocuted,

4627
03:40:01,757 --> 03:40:03,527
but that's what he was thinking.

4628
03:40:03,550 --> 03:40:05,319
So he just acted like that.

4629
03:40:05,343 --> 03:40:07,078
Hang onto your socks, lads.

4630
03:40:07,102 --> 03:40:09,757
Michael Caine saved my life.

4631
03:40:10,965 --> 03:40:14,861
Oh shit!

4632
03:40:22,516 --> 03:40:24,424
Even if you kill them,

4633
03:40:24,448 --> 03:40:26,837
they're still deadly.

4634
03:40:26,861 --> 03:40:27,861
"Creepozoids".

4635
03:40:28,655 --> 03:40:29,665
"Creepozoids".

4636
03:40:29,689 --> 03:40:31,802
Fun movie, little TNA

4637
03:40:31,826 --> 03:40:33,941
with a wonderful
director, David DeCoteau,

4638
03:40:33,965 --> 03:40:36,516
who remains one of
my closest friends.

4639
03:40:41,379 --> 03:40:46,274
"Creepozoids" is a very,
very, very low budget alien.

4640
03:40:49,309 --> 03:40:51,734
It was really fun,
because we did it in,

4641
03:40:51,757 --> 03:40:54,976
which then, was really
quick, seven days.

4642
03:40:55,000 --> 03:40:57,458
This place may not have all
the comforts of civilization.

4643
03:40:57,481 --> 03:40:59,388
Civilization doesn't
have all the comforts

4644
03:40:59,413 --> 03:41:01,595
of civilization anymore.

4645
03:41:01,620 --> 03:41:02,528
That's just my point.

4646
03:41:02,551 --> 03:41:05,147
There's this horrible thing

4647
03:41:05,172 --> 03:41:07,941
out after us that was
not from this earth,

4648
03:41:07,965 --> 03:41:10,102
and it's killing us one by one.

4649
03:41:17,965 --> 03:41:21,354
When you are doing
low budget things,

4650
03:41:21,379 --> 03:41:24,217
the monsters are
usually very fragile.

4651
03:41:24,240 --> 03:41:26,976
You had to be very
careful of these monsters.

4652
03:41:27,000 --> 03:41:30,630
So you're battling,
but holding back too,

4653
03:41:30,655 --> 03:41:32,448
because you could break them.

4654
03:41:37,448 --> 03:41:39,217
My mom came to set,

4655
03:41:39,240 --> 03:41:41,493
and both of us are
afraid of rats.

4656
03:41:41,516 --> 03:41:42,595
So what do they have?

4657
03:41:42,620 --> 03:41:45,379
These huge rats.

4658
03:41:52,757 --> 03:41:54,630
It didn't look bad,
that baby mutant,

4659
03:41:54,655 --> 03:41:56,689
but it was kind of silly.

4660
03:41:59,689 --> 03:42:03,043
It was a fun adventure,
because that was the first time

4661
03:42:03,067 --> 03:42:06,871
I really got to fight,
and be like, no makeup,

4662
03:42:06,896 --> 03:42:08,516
and a soldier.

4663
03:42:10,000 --> 03:42:14,043
I did, in "Creepozoids",
hae to battle a stuntperson,

4664
03:42:14,067 --> 03:42:16,493
which was interesting,
because they go all out

4665
03:42:16,516 --> 03:42:18,043
I'm like oh, I'm
gonna get killed.

4666
03:42:18,067 --> 03:42:19,585
I'm gonna get hurt.

4667
03:42:22,481 --> 03:42:25,010
Linnea and I go
back to a movie I made

4668
03:42:25,033 --> 03:42:26,906
1000 years before that,
which is hard to believe,

4669
03:42:26,931 --> 03:42:28,976
called "Fairytales",
and before that,

4670
03:42:29,000 --> 03:42:31,112
a movie called "Auditions".

4671
03:42:31,137 --> 03:42:32,388
It became apparent that most

4672
03:42:32,413 --> 03:42:34,976
of the female applicants
were non-professionals.

4673
03:42:35,000 --> 03:42:37,319
The whole idea was
they would come in,

4674
03:42:37,343 --> 03:42:39,976
sign a release, get
paid I think $10,

4675
03:42:40,000 --> 03:42:42,354
because we made it clear
that their audition

4676
03:42:42,379 --> 03:42:44,043
was gonna be used in the movie.

4677
03:42:44,067 --> 03:42:45,700
And the girls had to
take their tops off,

4678
03:42:45,724 --> 03:42:47,837
because they had
to be kind of sexy

4679
03:42:47,861 --> 03:42:49,217
fairy godmother, Cinderella.

4680
03:42:49,240 --> 03:42:50,906
I forget the story.

4681
03:42:50,931 --> 03:42:52,700
Many years later,
suddenly she's back

4682
03:42:52,724 --> 03:42:55,078
as a more mature
still very young woman

4683
03:42:55,102 --> 03:42:57,112
in the lead of "Creepozoids".

4684
03:42:57,137 --> 03:42:59,561
When I did "Creepozoids",
this one girl

4685
03:42:59,585 --> 03:43:02,112
would not do a topless scene.

4686
03:43:02,137 --> 03:43:03,595
She was such a prude, I thought.

4687
03:43:03,620 --> 03:43:06,147
And she was doing all
this backstory on herself,

4688
03:43:06,172 --> 03:43:08,493
like who is my mother,
who is my father.

4689
03:43:08,516 --> 03:43:11,493
On a $60,000 film.

4690
03:43:11,516 --> 03:43:13,251
But she went on to big things.

4691
03:43:13,274 --> 03:43:15,217
She became a porn star.

4692
03:43:15,240 --> 03:43:17,147
And I was like, wait a minute.

4693
03:43:17,172 --> 03:43:18,319
You wouldn't take off your top.

4694
03:43:18,343 --> 03:43:19,802
Now you're a porn star.

4695
03:43:19,826 --> 03:43:22,757
Let's not turn this into
a slumber party, okay?

4696
03:43:40,067 --> 03:43:42,182
"Zombie Nightmare" is
the story of a young man

4697
03:43:42,206 --> 03:43:45,217
who is murdered,
run over with a car

4698
03:43:45,240 --> 03:43:47,343
by these bunch of teenagers.

4699
03:43:50,481 --> 03:43:53,286
His mother goes
to a voodoo woman

4700
03:43:53,309 --> 03:43:54,734
to bring him back to life

4701
03:43:54,757 --> 03:43:57,595
to take revenge on these kids,

4702
03:43:57,620 --> 03:43:59,000
these spoiled brats.

4703
03:44:00,379 --> 03:44:01,355
See look, I told you.

4704
03:44:01,379 --> 03:44:02,585
There's nobody here.

4705
03:44:06,724 --> 03:44:09,871
At the same time,
there are two detectives

4706
03:44:09,896 --> 03:44:11,424
working to try to figure out

4707
03:44:11,448 --> 03:44:13,388
who's killing these kids.

4708
03:44:13,413 --> 03:44:15,319
Let's not have any
more high school kids

4709
03:44:15,343 --> 03:44:16,665
turn up dead.

4710
03:44:16,689 --> 03:44:17,871
Understand?

4711
03:44:17,896 --> 03:44:21,010
The script was
actually much better

4712
03:44:21,033 --> 03:44:24,941
than the final film, that
John Fasano wrote, by the way.

4713
03:44:24,965 --> 03:44:27,976
It was about racial
tensions, also.

4714
03:44:28,000 --> 03:44:28,907
Pretty young thing
has just walked

4715
03:44:28,932 --> 03:44:30,354
into the wrong neighborhood.

4716
03:44:30,379 --> 03:44:32,388
I do believe you're
right, Mr. Barnes.

4717
03:44:32,413 --> 03:44:33,595
Hey, don't be so uptight-

4718
03:44:33,620 --> 03:44:35,802
I went to Montreal
with Adam West.

4719
03:44:35,826 --> 03:44:37,147
It was surreal.

4720
03:44:37,172 --> 03:44:38,837
It was like, I
can't believe this.

4721
03:44:38,861 --> 03:44:41,527
I'm acting in a monster movie

4722
03:44:41,550 --> 03:44:43,354
with my childhood hero.

4723
03:44:43,379 --> 03:44:44,379
Come on, Frank.

4724
03:44:45,379 --> 03:44:46,826
I'll buy you a drink.

4725
03:44:47,757 --> 03:44:49,976
Jon Thor, he actually replaced

4726
03:44:50,000 --> 03:44:53,354
the original zombie actor
in "Zombie Nightmare".

4727
03:44:53,379 --> 03:44:56,976
We actually filmed the
end of the movie first

4728
03:44:57,000 --> 03:45:00,665
so the zombie was still played
by Peewee, the stuntman.

4729
03:45:00,689 --> 03:45:02,792
And he's big guy.

4730
03:45:07,792 --> 03:45:11,354
I'm the young detective,
and I arrive at this garage,

4731
03:45:11,379 --> 03:45:13,561
and I get there
just in time to see

4732
03:45:13,585 --> 03:45:15,769
the zombie kill Tia Carrere.

4733
03:45:15,792 --> 03:45:17,147
Right?

4734
03:45:17,172 --> 03:45:17,977
Police!

4735
03:45:18,001 --> 03:45:19,274
Hands in the air!

4736
03:45:21,550 --> 03:45:24,147
He knocks the gun aside,

4737
03:45:24,172 --> 03:45:25,388
and picks me up by the throat,

4738
03:45:25,413 --> 03:45:27,516
and then throws me onto a car.

4739
03:45:30,240 --> 03:45:31,595
It's my first movie.

4740
03:45:31,620 --> 03:45:32,871
I'm fighting a monster.

4741
03:45:32,896 --> 03:45:34,931
This is what I wanted
my whole life, right?

4742
03:45:36,274 --> 03:45:38,493
Mystery Science Theater
discovering "Zombie Nightmare"

4743
03:45:38,516 --> 03:45:42,595
definitely saved that movie
from disappearing forever.

4744
03:45:42,620 --> 03:45:44,388
It's called "Zombie Nightmare",

4745
03:45:44,413 --> 03:45:47,206
and it stars Adam West and...

4746
03:45:49,516 --> 03:45:52,217
There's a scene when one
of the zombie characters

4747
03:45:52,240 --> 03:45:54,182
is essentially dying.

4748
03:45:54,206 --> 03:45:56,700
His mouth is open, and
his eyes have sunken back,

4749
03:45:56,724 --> 03:45:59,906
and there's all of this
mist coming out of him.

4750
03:45:59,931 --> 03:46:01,769
At the time I thought, oh wow.

4751
03:46:01,792 --> 03:46:03,493
That really looks good.

4752
03:46:03,516 --> 03:46:06,837
Maybe this is gonna be good.

4753
03:46:06,861 --> 03:46:10,112
I had hope, anyway.

4754
03:46:10,137 --> 03:46:10,977
Kill me!

4755
03:46:11,001 --> 03:46:12,286
Kill me, Frank!

4756
03:46:12,309 --> 03:46:13,516
Frank!

4757
03:46:24,033 --> 03:46:26,319
"The Video Dead".

4758
03:46:26,343 --> 03:46:29,665
I love "Video Dead", because
it does something different

4759
03:46:29,689 --> 03:46:31,379
with the zombie genre.

4760
03:46:34,689 --> 03:46:38,734
We're given this weird
nightmarish suburbia,

4761
03:46:38,757 --> 03:46:41,112
where these zombies
are killing people,

4762
03:46:41,137 --> 03:46:44,319
but they all have a story.

4763
03:46:44,343 --> 03:46:45,561
They try to live.

4764
03:46:45,585 --> 03:46:47,000
Like, they try to adapt.

4765
03:46:50,379 --> 03:46:52,906
You have this haunted
TV that gets delivered.

4766
03:46:52,931 --> 03:46:54,458
And initially it
goes to a writer

4767
03:46:54,481 --> 03:46:55,630
in the opening of the film,

4768
03:46:55,655 --> 03:46:57,251
who's played by
Michael St. Michaels,

4769
03:46:57,274 --> 03:46:58,665
who would eventually
go on to become

4770
03:46:58,689 --> 03:46:59,965
the Greasy Strangler.

4771
03:47:01,343 --> 03:47:05,182
The TV somehow is a portal
for this zombie movie,

4772
03:47:05,206 --> 03:47:08,240
but also real zombies as well.

4773
03:47:09,826 --> 03:47:12,078
That's the first movie
I've ever died twice in,

4774
03:47:12,102 --> 03:47:13,481
and one time I killed me.

4775
03:47:14,896 --> 03:47:17,906
When I shot it, I was the
first 20 minutes of the film.

4776
03:47:17,931 --> 03:47:19,769
The distributor
didn't want that,

4777
03:47:19,792 --> 03:47:22,424
so they took out a
bunch of my scenes.

4778
03:47:22,448 --> 03:47:24,734
The hardest thing I
did in "The Video Dead"

4779
03:47:24,757 --> 03:47:26,078
was being dead.

4780
03:47:26,102 --> 03:47:27,906
That scene where
they open the door.

4781
03:47:27,931 --> 03:47:29,802
We had to do that
two or three times

4782
03:47:29,826 --> 03:47:32,448
because I could
not stop shivering.

4783
03:47:33,343 --> 03:47:34,561
Holy shit!

4784
03:47:34,585 --> 03:47:35,630
A few days later,
they called me up

4785
03:47:35,655 --> 03:47:37,217
and said would I be interested

4786
03:47:37,240 --> 03:47:39,734
in being in the movie some more?

4787
03:47:39,757 --> 03:47:42,286
I came back as Jack the Zombie.

4788
03:47:42,309 --> 03:47:46,112
The actor who originally played
Jack the Zombie had died.

4789
03:47:46,137 --> 03:47:47,769
I don't know how or why,

4790
03:47:47,792 --> 03:47:49,251
so they had a vacancy, and I was

4791
03:47:49,274 --> 03:47:52,000
the right height and weight.

4792
03:47:54,757 --> 03:47:57,043
All those zombies
had personality.

4793
03:47:57,067 --> 03:47:59,424
They weren't just eating brains

4794
03:47:59,448 --> 03:48:01,906
for the sake of eating brains.

4795
03:48:01,931 --> 03:48:03,043
They were going places.

4796
03:48:03,067 --> 03:48:04,206
They were doing things.

4797
03:48:07,481 --> 03:48:09,217
Those are some of the
best zombies we have

4798
03:48:09,240 --> 03:48:11,182
of the entire 1980s decade.

4799
03:48:11,206 --> 03:48:14,655
The bride zombie, she's doing
all these domestic things.

4800
03:48:18,481 --> 03:48:22,527
And then you have the rockabilly
Flock of Seagulls zombie,

4801
03:48:22,550 --> 03:48:25,516
who's kind of like the
ladies man of the zombies.

4802
03:48:30,655 --> 03:48:34,424
My favorite scene is when
I'm the way too cool zombie.

4803
03:48:34,448 --> 03:48:38,734
Yes, I like you, you know?

4804
03:48:38,757 --> 03:48:41,481
I could tell I really
creeped her out.

4805
03:48:43,240 --> 03:48:45,700
I really enjoyed working
with Robert Scott.

4806
03:48:45,724 --> 03:48:47,561
He really didn't
want anybody to know

4807
03:48:47,585 --> 03:48:51,448
that that film had
only cost $35,000.

4808
03:48:52,620 --> 03:48:54,802
It was shot on video,
transferred to film,

4809
03:48:54,826 --> 03:48:58,481
and then transferred back
to video again.

4810
03:49:02,792 --> 03:49:05,217
It was generating a nice
amount of money here and there,

4811
03:49:05,240 --> 03:49:08,595
prior to Avco Embassy
going bankrupt.

4812
03:49:08,620 --> 03:49:11,240
People were impressed
that I was in it.

4813
03:49:12,481 --> 03:49:14,078
I didn't have to pay
for video rentals

4814
03:49:14,102 --> 03:49:15,689
in a couple video stores.

4815
03:49:17,102 --> 03:49:19,424
This bar I hung out
at kept me drunk

4816
03:49:19,448 --> 03:49:21,286
for about six months,
because I brought in

4817
03:49:21,309 --> 03:49:24,896
a copy of the thing and showed
it at the bar.

4818
03:49:30,861 --> 03:49:31,941
People look at that
film, and they wonder

4819
03:49:31,965 --> 03:49:33,458
whatever happened to that guy.

4820
03:49:33,481 --> 03:49:36,792
And now they get their answer
in "The Greasy Strangler".

4821
03:49:50,033 --> 03:49:52,147
"Slumber Party Massacre II".

4822
03:49:52,172 --> 03:49:54,976
If you go, don't go all the way.

4823
03:49:55,000 --> 03:49:56,769
Oh god, anybody got any tranqs?

4824
03:49:56,792 --> 03:49:59,527
A lot of us straight boys

4825
03:49:59,550 --> 03:50:02,561
used to wonder in deep thought

4826
03:50:02,585 --> 03:50:04,493
about what must be going on

4827
03:50:04,516 --> 03:50:06,516
when girls are having
a slumber party.

4828
03:50:07,448 --> 03:50:09,424
You look like a big chicken.

4829
03:50:09,448 --> 03:50:10,665
Bawk, bawk, bawk!

4830
03:50:10,689 --> 03:50:12,286
I love the "Slumber
Party Massacre" series.

4831
03:50:12,309 --> 03:50:14,251
They're all written
and directed by women,

4832
03:50:14,274 --> 03:50:16,896
and that shows in the
content of the film.

4833
03:50:24,585 --> 03:50:26,217
One of the cool things about
"Slumber Party Massacre 1"

4834
03:50:26,240 --> 03:50:28,769
is that it's really
satirizing the slasher genre

4835
03:50:28,792 --> 03:50:30,458
at a time when the
conversation around

4836
03:50:30,481 --> 03:50:33,182
whether or not slasher
films were feminist.

4837
03:50:33,206 --> 03:50:36,067
But "Slumber Party Massacre 2"
takes that and runs with it.

4838
03:50:36,931 --> 03:50:37,907
Come on baby!

4839
03:50:37,932 --> 03:50:39,413
We gonna rock and roll!

4840
03:50:41,240 --> 03:50:45,112
"Slumber Party Massacre
2" is actually a meta film.

4841
03:50:45,137 --> 03:50:48,630
A comment on those
kinds of slasher movies,

4842
03:50:48,655 --> 03:50:51,343
at the same time that it is one.

4843
03:50:56,102 --> 03:50:58,251
Plus, it's a musical.

4844
03:50:58,274 --> 03:51:00,976
♪ I love to jam
it to the floor ♪

4845
03:51:01,000 --> 03:51:02,734
♪ Let its wild parts roar

4846
03:51:02,757 --> 03:51:05,424
I was working for Roger Corman,

4847
03:51:05,448 --> 03:51:09,010
and I said Roger, I'd really
like to direct something,

4848
03:51:09,033 --> 03:51:11,458
and he said, okay.

4849
03:51:11,481 --> 03:51:14,388
I have something you
can direct immediately.

4850
03:51:14,413 --> 03:51:17,802
He said "Slumber
Party Massacre II".

4851
03:51:17,826 --> 03:51:21,689
We have to make it, because
I've sold all the rights to it.

4852
03:51:23,172 --> 03:51:24,595
"Slumber Party Massacre
II" is about some girls

4853
03:51:24,620 --> 03:51:27,837
who get away for a slumber
party at a cottage,

4854
03:51:27,861 --> 03:51:32,217
and it's interrupted by a
musical icon serial killer,

4855
03:51:32,240 --> 03:51:33,802
who is going to
sing and kill them

4856
03:51:33,826 --> 03:51:36,000
with his crazy guitar.

4857
03:51:37,240 --> 03:51:38,871
Yoo-hoo!

4858
03:51:38,896 --> 03:51:40,217
I'm home!

4859
03:51:40,240 --> 03:51:41,769
What could be more evil

4860
03:51:41,792 --> 03:51:45,000
than a weaponized
electric guitar?

4861
03:51:47,413 --> 03:51:49,274
To drill poor innocent
victims' heads in?

4862
03:51:51,585 --> 03:51:54,182
I couldn't think of
anything that represented

4863
03:51:54,206 --> 03:51:57,424
the phallic nature of rock music

4864
03:51:57,448 --> 03:52:01,067
any better than a guitar
that had a drill on the end.

4865
03:52:02,309 --> 03:52:04,561
Atanas Ilitch plays
the driller killer.

4866
03:52:04,585 --> 03:52:08,630
And this is Atanas
Ilitch's only album.

4867
03:52:08,655 --> 03:52:12,757
If you look, he's holding
a cat on the back.

4868
03:52:15,481 --> 03:52:19,182
He was full of lots
of enthusiasm and ideas,

4869
03:52:19,206 --> 03:52:21,700
and I didn't have
a choreographer,

4870
03:52:21,724 --> 03:52:26,354
so he and I had to make up his
"Let's Buzz" dance together,

4871
03:52:26,379 --> 03:52:27,976
and the chorus was

4872
03:52:28,000 --> 03:52:29,941
♪ Let's buzz

4873
03:52:29,965 --> 03:52:30,976
He's out there.

4874
03:52:31,000 --> 03:52:32,458
♪ Let's buzz

4875
03:52:32,481 --> 03:52:34,792
It was a sexy song.

4876
03:52:35,965 --> 03:52:38,837
My favorite two things
is the dead chicken

4877
03:52:38,861 --> 03:52:40,976
that jumps out of
the refrigerator

4878
03:52:41,000 --> 03:52:43,802
onto Crystal Bernard's chest,

4879
03:52:43,826 --> 03:52:47,516
and spews weird liquid
out of its cut neck.

4880
03:52:51,655 --> 03:52:54,078
The other one is
they're driving away,

4881
03:52:54,102 --> 03:52:57,354
and the Driller Killer, of
course, is in the backseat,

4882
03:52:57,379 --> 03:53:02,033
and he drills the kid who's
driving through the seat.

4883
03:53:06,757 --> 03:53:11,043
It sold a tremendous
amount of video cassettes

4884
03:53:11,067 --> 03:53:14,010
which was what Roger wanted
to sell at that point.

4885
03:53:14,033 --> 03:53:16,769
He said it made over $6 million

4886
03:53:16,792 --> 03:53:20,734
on a $390,000 budget.

4887
03:53:20,757 --> 03:53:23,769
It actually got
banned in the UK.

4888
03:53:23,792 --> 03:53:25,871
They wrote a letter to Roger

4889
03:53:25,896 --> 03:53:29,319
saying you can't show
this film in the UK

4890
03:53:29,343 --> 03:53:33,976
because it's a particularly
virulent combination

4891
03:53:34,000 --> 03:53:36,172
of sex and violence.

4892
03:53:40,792 --> 03:53:42,319
I wish I had a copy
of that letter.

4893
03:53:42,343 --> 03:53:45,527
They sounded extremely offended.

4894
03:53:45,550 --> 03:53:47,976
The way she broken my heart,

4895
03:53:48,000 --> 03:53:50,112
it made me cry,

4896
03:53:50,137 --> 03:53:53,379
so don't you know
she had to die.

4897
03:53:59,931 --> 03:54:02,561
The 80s, like any
other film decade,

4898
03:54:02,585 --> 03:54:04,286
was about transition.

4899
03:54:04,309 --> 03:54:06,561
I think that there was forward
motion in a lot of fronts,

4900
03:54:06,585 --> 03:54:08,458
and there was backward
motion in a lot of fronts.

4901
03:54:08,481 --> 03:54:10,286
Move lady, or I'm gonna blow off

4902
03:54:10,309 --> 03:54:11,734
your old man's 'acho bizeezhiis!

4903
03:54:11,757 --> 03:54:14,043
The 80s was before we were PC.

4904
03:54:14,067 --> 03:54:17,010
Gay people, black
people, Asian people,

4905
03:54:17,033 --> 03:54:19,595
in the 80s movies were
always the butt of the joke.

4906
03:54:19,620 --> 03:54:20,906
And we just dealt with it.

4907
03:54:20,931 --> 03:54:22,424
We were just used to it.

4908
03:54:22,448 --> 03:54:26,424
Urban stereotypes of black
people, Asian stereotypes.

4909
03:54:26,448 --> 03:54:28,112
And yes, they were harmful,

4910
03:54:28,137 --> 03:54:30,286
but we weren't as aware
that they were harmful,

4911
03:54:30,309 --> 03:54:33,413
because we just had not
awakened ourselves yet.

4912
03:54:39,379 --> 03:54:40,906
No!

4913
03:54:40,931 --> 03:54:42,871
I think stereotypes are
stereotypes for a reason,

4914
03:54:42,896 --> 03:54:45,010
because there's a
lot of truth in them.

4915
03:54:45,033 --> 03:54:47,837
But I also think that the
80s is more complicated

4916
03:54:47,861 --> 03:54:50,354
and messier than
just a reductive,

4917
03:54:50,379 --> 03:54:52,516
the black guy dies first rule.

4918
03:54:58,309 --> 03:55:01,147
I look back at Romero,
"Night of the Living Dead",

4919
03:55:01,172 --> 03:55:02,837
a black leading man.

4920
03:55:02,861 --> 03:55:05,286
Very bold move on his part.

4921
03:55:05,309 --> 03:55:08,010
He wasn't there as a
symbol of a black man.

4922
03:55:08,033 --> 03:55:10,102
He was there just as a man.

4923
03:55:12,206 --> 03:55:14,424
What people don't give
Romero enough credit for

4924
03:55:14,448 --> 03:55:17,217
is that in his zombie
trilogy, Romero's always

4925
03:55:17,240 --> 03:55:19,147
putting the underdog
at the front.

4926
03:55:19,172 --> 03:55:20,319
Get out of the way, bitch,

4927
03:55:20,343 --> 03:55:21,863
or I'll go right
through you with this.

4928
03:55:24,585 --> 03:55:27,388
We're getting to
make this a habit, man.

4929
03:55:27,413 --> 03:55:29,595
"Night of the Comet",
we had a Mexican man

4930
03:55:29,620 --> 03:55:32,734
as the male lead, which,
because it's Los Angeles,

4931
03:55:32,757 --> 03:55:34,527
we didn't think
anything of that,

4932
03:55:34,550 --> 03:55:36,931
but everybody else
was like, whoa!

4933
03:55:38,000 --> 03:55:38,941
Jeez!

4934
03:55:38,965 --> 03:55:40,084
There goes the neighborhood!

4935
03:55:41,172 --> 03:55:45,931
In those days, it was
defiant to cast a Latino.

4936
03:55:48,274 --> 03:55:50,286
I would be very happy
when I would watch

4937
03:55:50,309 --> 03:55:53,630
a horror movie
back then, and see

4938
03:55:53,655 --> 03:55:56,965
the kind of diversity
that did show up.

4939
03:56:00,000 --> 03:56:01,182
Want one?

4940
03:56:01,206 --> 03:56:03,354
Because representation
is such a new idea,

4941
03:56:03,379 --> 03:56:05,906
because sometimes you don't
know what you don't have,

4942
03:56:05,931 --> 03:56:07,286
until you start to get it,

4943
03:56:07,309 --> 03:56:08,388
and then you're like, oh.

4944
03:56:08,413 --> 03:56:09,792
We didn't have this before.

4945
03:56:11,000 --> 03:56:12,251
Oh, look at that face.

4946
03:56:12,274 --> 03:56:13,620
Okay do the other one.

4947
03:56:15,689 --> 03:56:18,458
I'm from a Filipino family,

4948
03:56:18,481 --> 03:56:22,286
and our culture was never
represented.

4949
03:56:22,309 --> 03:56:25,976
Unfortunately, even
today, we're very limited.

4950
03:56:26,000 --> 03:56:29,043
Looking back on the way
casting was in the 80s,

4951
03:56:29,067 --> 03:56:32,802
I know it can be easy
to be upset at the past,

4952
03:56:32,826 --> 03:56:35,354
but it was of its time,

4953
03:56:35,379 --> 03:56:37,481
and it was kind of rough.

4954
03:56:39,274 --> 03:56:40,078
No!

4955
03:56:40,102 --> 03:56:41,102
No!

4956
03:56:42,481 --> 03:56:44,458
In the rare instances
where you do see yourself

4957
03:56:44,481 --> 03:56:46,769
represented onscreen, or
something that is even

4958
03:56:46,792 --> 03:56:49,871
closely akin to you, and
it's shown in a negative way,

4959
03:56:49,896 --> 03:56:52,251
or there's violence being
done to this person,

4960
03:56:52,274 --> 03:56:53,655
it weighs on you.

4961
03:56:55,413 --> 03:56:58,941
I feel like we can
learn from our mistakes,

4962
03:56:58,965 --> 03:57:01,388
but not beat
ourselves up about it,

4963
03:57:01,413 --> 03:57:05,206
and not feel like we
have to change the edit.

4964
03:57:08,861 --> 03:57:10,147
I don't think we
need to throw away

4965
03:57:10,172 --> 03:57:12,217
representation
that isn't perfect,

4966
03:57:12,240 --> 03:57:15,424
and in the 1980s,
representation was not perfect.

4967
03:57:15,448 --> 03:57:19,078
It's important to remember
what the social context is

4968
03:57:19,102 --> 03:57:20,319
when something's made.

4969
03:57:20,343 --> 03:57:21,941
We should be talking
about our history.

4970
03:57:21,965 --> 03:57:25,010
There's a reason why
this isn't okay now,

4971
03:57:25,033 --> 03:57:27,112
and was happening then.

4972
03:57:27,137 --> 03:57:30,424
Context, context, context
is what's important

4973
03:57:30,448 --> 03:57:31,700
when it comes to these films.

4974
03:57:31,724 --> 03:57:33,734
Doesn't it bother
you that he's a fag?

4975
03:57:33,757 --> 03:57:34,941
Come on-

4976
03:57:34,965 --> 03:57:36,527
Tell me, Billy.

4977
03:57:36,550 --> 03:57:37,802
Are you a fag?

4978
03:57:37,826 --> 03:57:40,147
We need to talk about
more than just the word.

4979
03:57:40,172 --> 03:57:42,665
We need to talk about what
the word was doing there,

4980
03:57:42,689 --> 03:57:44,286
and who put it on that page.

4981
03:57:44,309 --> 03:57:46,630
Every filmmaker,
their upbringing

4982
03:57:46,655 --> 03:57:49,251
influences their storytelling.

4983
03:57:49,274 --> 03:57:51,388
With that in mind, I began
to make my own films,

4984
03:57:51,413 --> 03:57:53,493
and I began to
write my own films,

4985
03:57:53,516 --> 03:57:55,388
and I began to
create opportunity,

4986
03:57:55,413 --> 03:57:58,043
not only for myself,
but for everyone else.

4987
03:57:58,067 --> 03:57:59,665
What do you make of it, Mark?

4988
03:57:59,689 --> 03:58:00,941
Beats me, Chief.

4989
03:58:00,965 --> 03:58:02,734
Seems like the work of
pathological weirdos.

4990
03:58:02,757 --> 03:58:06,379
Representation being
a double-edged sword.

4991
03:58:07,861 --> 03:58:09,043
I'm really getting scared.

4992
03:58:09,067 --> 03:58:10,561
I can't take back
any movies I did,

4993
03:58:10,585 --> 03:58:12,010
and I don't want to.

4994
03:58:12,033 --> 03:58:15,424
I represent as far as
I can what I look like

4995
03:58:15,448 --> 03:58:17,286
in the group of
people I come from,

4996
03:58:17,309 --> 03:58:19,527
but I never pretended,
and I don't say

4997
03:58:19,550 --> 03:58:21,527
I'm speaking for everybody.

4998
03:58:21,550 --> 03:58:23,147
I just have my little lane,

4999
03:58:23,172 --> 03:58:24,595
and I try to stick to my lane.

5000
03:58:24,620 --> 03:58:26,493
When you look at
horror of the late 1970s,

5001
03:58:26,516 --> 03:58:28,388
early 1980s, we start to see

5002
03:58:28,413 --> 03:58:30,388
actual queer
representation trickle in.

5003
03:58:30,413 --> 03:58:33,595
We see gay guys kicking
ass in films like "Siege",

5004
03:58:33,620 --> 03:58:35,448
and "Savage Weekend".

5005
03:58:39,379 --> 03:58:42,319
That was getting way
more normalized in the 70s,

5006
03:58:42,343 --> 03:58:44,217
and then when AIDS hit,
they all got shoved

5007
03:58:44,240 --> 03:58:45,734
back in the closet pretty hard.

5008
03:58:45,757 --> 03:58:48,561
Suddenly, there is very
much no longer an interest

5009
03:58:48,585 --> 03:58:51,527
in having queer characters
normalized in those films.

5010
03:58:51,550 --> 03:58:52,941
It was a big
elephant in the room,

5011
03:58:52,965 --> 03:58:54,286
and I think a lot
of horror filmmakers

5012
03:58:54,309 --> 03:58:56,182
didn't want to bother
navigating that.

5013
03:58:56,206 --> 03:58:59,043
It's part of the
evolutionary process of horror.

5014
03:58:59,067 --> 03:59:02,665
For me, like it was such
an educational process

5015
03:59:02,689 --> 03:59:05,976
to be able to go
back and look at how

5016
03:59:06,000 --> 03:59:07,906
we've changed, and
how our dialogue,

5017
03:59:07,931 --> 03:59:11,137
and how our discussion of
these movies has changed.

5018
03:59:14,448 --> 03:59:15,550
Oh god, she's a boy.

5019
03:59:17,067 --> 03:59:19,319
It's hard to compare the 1980s

5020
03:59:19,343 --> 03:59:22,182
and representation in horror
to what we have today.

5021
03:59:22,206 --> 03:59:24,976
Because what we have is
a conversation happening

5022
03:59:25,000 --> 03:59:28,240
that's asking for what we
want our future to look like.

5023
03:59:30,620 --> 03:59:33,286
I look at everything
that happens in the past

5024
03:59:33,309 --> 03:59:36,343
as opportunities to do much,
much better in the future.

5025
03:59:38,000 --> 03:59:40,769
It was once said to me that
representation is a journey,

5026
03:59:40,792 --> 03:59:42,286
not a destination.

5027
03:59:42,309 --> 03:59:44,561
So to me, representation
in the 80s

5028
03:59:44,585 --> 03:59:46,319
is a work in progress.

5029
03:59:46,343 --> 03:59:48,941
Representation now is
a work in progress.

5030
03:59:48,965 --> 03:59:50,837
There's forward movement, and
there's backward movement,

5031
03:59:50,861 --> 03:59:53,871
but you can't snapshot it
and say this is what it was.

5032
03:59:53,896 --> 03:59:55,595
Because I think it's
a more complicated

5033
03:59:55,620 --> 03:59:57,000
messier picture than that.

5034
04:00:10,240 --> 04:00:13,000
"Return of
the Living Dead: Part II".

5035
04:00:14,172 --> 04:00:17,010
Just when you thought
it was safe to be dead.

5036
04:00:17,033 --> 04:00:19,561
I love a good zany horror movie.

5037
04:00:19,585 --> 04:00:21,871
Zombie content right
now is very serious.

5038
04:00:21,896 --> 04:00:24,458
It's all about
society and humanity,

5039
04:00:24,481 --> 04:00:25,976
and what does humanity mean.

5040
04:00:26,000 --> 04:00:27,665
This movie, it's
fun to watch zombies

5041
04:00:27,689 --> 04:00:30,448
just be ridiculous.

5042
04:00:34,206 --> 04:00:35,011
"Return of the
Living Dead: Part 1"

5043
04:00:35,034 --> 04:00:36,871
is truly a dark comedy.

5044
04:00:36,896 --> 04:00:38,424
You're laughing
at the situations

5045
04:00:38,448 --> 04:00:40,251
the kids get themselves into,

5046
04:00:40,274 --> 04:00:43,481
and "Part II" kind of
went for the jokes.

5047
04:00:48,000 --> 04:00:50,182
It's less of a sequel,
and more just kind of

5048
04:00:50,206 --> 04:00:52,319
a goofier remake
of the first one.

5049
04:00:52,343 --> 04:00:54,734
"Return of the Living
Dead II" shows that

5050
04:00:54,757 --> 04:00:56,769
even if you die in
the first movie,

5051
04:00:56,792 --> 04:00:58,861
you can still come
back for the sequel.

5052
04:01:02,000 --> 04:01:03,871
Not bad.

5053
04:01:03,896 --> 04:01:05,976
Nice bit of rump
in her time, huh?

5054
04:01:06,000 --> 04:01:08,837
James Karen and Tom
Matthews from the first movie

5055
04:01:08,861 --> 04:01:10,217
come back for this one.

5056
04:01:10,240 --> 04:01:12,665
They're kind of
filling the same role,

5057
04:01:12,689 --> 04:01:15,217
and basically have the
same arc as the first one,

5058
04:01:15,240 --> 04:01:19,043
so they sort of are playing
the same characters.

5059
04:01:19,067 --> 04:01:21,217
We've been here before!

5060
04:01:21,240 --> 04:01:24,147
It's like a dream,
this whole thing!

5061
04:01:24,172 --> 04:01:25,172
You, me!

5062
04:01:26,379 --> 04:01:27,700
"Return of the Living Dead"
was a huge hit in Japan,

5063
04:01:27,724 --> 04:01:29,665
and they said if you
can have Jimmy Karen

5064
04:01:29,689 --> 04:01:31,458
and Tom Matthews come
back, we'd give you

5065
04:01:31,481 --> 04:01:32,700
a little bit more money.

5066
04:01:32,724 --> 04:01:34,561
So that's how Jimmy
and I got involved

5067
04:01:34,585 --> 04:01:37,240
back in it again, was
because of the Japanese.

5068
04:01:41,102 --> 04:01:43,251
Jimmy Karen, lot of
people on the East Coast

5069
04:01:43,274 --> 04:01:44,871
call him the Pathmark man.

5070
04:01:44,896 --> 04:01:47,251
March rolls in with
hundreds of price reductions

5071
04:01:47,274 --> 04:01:48,700
in this new Pathmark circular.

5072
04:01:48,724 --> 04:01:50,941
So he would give weekly
specials every week

5073
04:01:50,965 --> 04:01:52,286
for 30 years.

5074
04:01:52,309 --> 04:01:54,319
24 hours a day, you'll save

5075
04:01:54,343 --> 04:01:56,458
with one stop
shopping at Pathmark.

5076
04:01:56,481 --> 04:01:58,251
He was so infectious on the set.

5077
04:01:58,274 --> 04:01:59,931
Raised everybody's game up.

5078
04:02:04,792 --> 04:02:07,354
You laugh at the situations
we get ourselves into.

5079
04:02:07,379 --> 04:02:10,700
You can't believe the
shit that's going on.

5080
04:02:10,724 --> 04:02:12,286
Are you fucking kidding?

5081
04:02:12,309 --> 04:02:13,665
That's insane.

5082
04:02:13,689 --> 04:02:15,147
That's what you're
responding to.

5083
04:02:15,172 --> 04:02:16,976
We're acting it for real, man.

5084
04:02:17,000 --> 04:02:18,147
It's the dead!

5085
04:02:18,172 --> 04:02:18,977
They've come back to life!

5086
04:02:19,001 --> 04:02:20,010
The dead?

5087
04:02:20,033 --> 04:02:20,872
Dead, dead what?

5088
04:02:20,897 --> 04:02:21,976
People!

5089
04:02:22,000 --> 04:02:23,251
We need your car!

5090
04:02:23,274 --> 04:02:24,561
Well it sounds to me
like you need a hearse.

5091
04:02:24,585 --> 04:02:26,319
I had an issue with Jimmy Karen

5092
04:02:26,343 --> 04:02:27,837
eating brains, actually,

5093
04:02:27,861 --> 04:02:29,561
because the director wanted
me to eat frickin' brains,

5094
04:02:29,585 --> 04:02:33,251
and I was like, that was just
so over the line, I thought.

5095
04:02:33,274 --> 04:02:36,286
I got really upset
about that on the set.

5096
04:02:36,309 --> 04:02:38,309
I had issues with
him, Ken Wiederhorn.

5097
04:02:42,792 --> 04:02:45,251
It's like he lost a bet
and had to do the movie.

5098
04:02:45,274 --> 04:02:47,286
Hemdale made him do
it to do other movies

5099
04:02:47,309 --> 04:02:48,837
that he wanted to do.

5100
04:02:48,861 --> 04:02:53,861
It's a sad story of Ken
Wiederhorn and his career.

5101
04:02:55,033 --> 04:02:57,078
He came right out of the
gate with "Shock Waves",

5102
04:02:57,102 --> 04:02:58,595
he had "Dark Tower"
that he wrote

5103
04:02:58,620 --> 04:03:00,388
that was completely butchered.

5104
04:03:00,413 --> 04:03:03,319
"Meatballs II" was never
a "Meatballs" movie.

5105
04:03:03,343 --> 04:03:04,769
It was a movie that he made,

5106
04:03:04,792 --> 04:03:06,976
and the company was
like, we need a sequel.

5107
04:03:07,000 --> 04:03:07,907
And they retitled it.

5108
04:03:07,932 --> 04:03:09,182
And this happens again.

5109
04:03:09,206 --> 04:03:11,147
I mean, Ken has the script,

5110
04:03:11,172 --> 04:03:13,217
and it's not really
a zombie comedy,

5111
04:03:13,240 --> 04:03:15,896
but they want to make a
"Return of the Living Dead II".

5112
04:03:21,000 --> 04:03:22,871
He just really wasn't interested

5113
04:03:22,896 --> 04:03:24,516
in doing the movie,
but he did it

5114
04:03:26,861 --> 04:03:27,861
Oh, fuck this!

5115
04:03:32,343 --> 04:03:34,802
The strengths of "Part II"
that people really enjoy,

5116
04:03:34,826 --> 04:03:38,010
I think the fact that the
main character was a kid,

5117
04:03:38,033 --> 04:03:42,102
so they have an emotional
connection to the movie.

5118
04:03:43,965 --> 04:03:44,965
Brains!

5119
04:03:45,757 --> 04:03:47,010
I've never heard anyone say

5120
04:03:47,033 --> 04:03:48,976
that they've hated "Part II",

5121
04:03:49,000 --> 04:03:51,906
except for me.

5122
04:03:51,931 --> 04:03:54,033
This is big fucking trouble!

5123
04:03:56,033 --> 04:03:57,757
I've changed my mind since then.

5124
04:04:12,274 --> 04:04:15,458
You've got
to give the devil his due!

5125
04:04:15,481 --> 04:04:16,976
"Sorority Babes".

5126
04:04:17,000 --> 04:04:19,319
"Sorority Babes in the
Slimeball Bowl-O-Rama"

5127
04:04:19,343 --> 04:04:22,665
is about these kids
that think, okay,

5128
04:04:22,689 --> 04:04:26,527
we're gonna break into a
mall, in the bowling alley,

5129
04:04:26,550 --> 04:04:28,734
and steal a trophy.

5130
04:04:28,757 --> 04:04:30,458
Come on, man!

5131
04:04:30,481 --> 04:04:31,287
I'm working on it.

5132
04:04:31,310 --> 04:04:33,067
Will you cool your jets?

5133
04:04:35,343 --> 04:04:36,837
Things turn out really bad,

5134
04:04:36,861 --> 04:04:39,147
because they awaken this imp.

5135
04:04:39,172 --> 04:04:40,802
Such a sour face!

5136
04:04:40,826 --> 04:04:42,837
Stop it, you little prick!

5137
04:04:42,861 --> 04:04:45,319
Very funny imp,
but very menacing,

5138
04:04:45,343 --> 04:04:47,206
and does bad things.

5139
04:04:48,655 --> 04:04:49,631
Have a nice trip!

5140
04:04:49,656 --> 04:04:51,217
See you next fall!

5141
04:04:51,240 --> 04:04:53,665
I crack me up!

5142
04:04:53,689 --> 04:04:55,976
It's that story
of the monkey's paw.

5143
04:04:56,000 --> 04:04:57,493
Be careful what you wish for.

5144
04:04:57,516 --> 04:04:58,389
Gold!

5145
04:04:58,414 --> 04:04:59,458
Lots of it!

5146
04:04:59,481 --> 04:05:01,388
Then gold it is!

5147
04:05:01,413 --> 04:05:02,595
This isn't gold!

5148
04:05:02,620 --> 04:05:03,871
These people make these wishes,

5149
04:05:03,896 --> 04:05:06,906
and they go so bad,
it's not even funny.

5150
04:05:06,931 --> 04:05:09,595
Oh perfect form!

5151
04:05:09,620 --> 04:05:10,906
Lovely form!

5152
04:05:10,931 --> 04:05:13,941
Now I come along, and
my name is Spider in it,

5153
04:05:13,965 --> 04:05:16,550
and I save the day.

5154
04:05:20,861 --> 04:05:23,182
When I got the script,
it wasn't called

5155
04:05:23,206 --> 04:05:25,251
"Sorority Babes in the
Slimeball Bowl O' Rama",

5156
04:05:25,274 --> 04:05:26,493
it was called "The Imp".

5157
04:05:26,516 --> 04:05:28,802
We had no idea what
the imp would be like.

5158
04:05:28,826 --> 04:05:30,251
We didn't know what
it would sound like,

5159
04:05:30,274 --> 04:05:31,561
we didn't know what
it would look like,

5160
04:05:31,585 --> 04:05:33,078
because no one was there.

5161
04:05:33,102 --> 04:05:35,561
We just had to pretend we
were looking at something.

5162
04:05:35,585 --> 04:05:37,769
We had no idea it
would be a funny voice.

5163
04:05:37,792 --> 04:05:39,630
Uncle Imp is gonna get ya!

5164
04:05:39,655 --> 04:05:40,826
Fun, fun, fun!

5165
04:05:42,033 --> 04:05:44,078
Dukey Flyswatter was in a band

5166
04:05:44,102 --> 04:05:45,665
called The Haunted Garage.

5167
04:05:45,689 --> 04:05:49,043
He was a great guy and
everything, to work with.

5168
04:05:49,067 --> 04:05:52,033
No, that's his real name.

5169
04:05:53,240 --> 04:05:54,493
I don't know what
his real name is.

5170
04:05:54,516 --> 04:05:57,527
It's probably Howard,
or something like that.

5171
04:05:57,550 --> 04:06:00,931
Would I lie to you?

5172
04:06:06,896 --> 04:06:09,458
"The Serpent and the Rainbow".

5173
04:06:09,481 --> 04:06:12,388
When I think of the movies
that Wes Craven created

5174
04:06:12,413 --> 04:06:15,976
that really moved me and
challenged me as a viewer,

5175
04:06:16,000 --> 04:06:18,802
"Serpent and the Rainbow"
is definitely at the top

5176
04:06:18,826 --> 04:06:20,033
of that list.

5177
04:06:23,620 --> 04:06:25,112
I love "The Serpent
and the Rainbow".

5178
04:06:25,137 --> 04:06:28,976
They have this dust that you
can put into people's faces

5179
04:06:29,000 --> 04:06:30,493
and they become a zombie.

5180
04:06:30,516 --> 04:06:34,413
So you could bury them,
they could come alive again.

5181
04:06:35,620 --> 04:06:38,976
It is Wes Craven's
take on the zombie film.

5182
04:06:39,000 --> 04:06:41,388
Everybody was kind
of trying to chase

5183
04:06:41,413 --> 04:06:44,343
what George Romero did with
"Night of the Living Dead".

5184
04:06:45,481 --> 04:06:46,976
It wasn't until "Night
of the Living Dead"

5185
04:06:47,000 --> 04:06:50,251
that people even started
talking about ghouls as zombies.

5186
04:06:50,274 --> 04:06:51,630
Zombies were Caribbean.

5187
04:06:51,655 --> 04:06:53,769
Zombies were in "I
Walked With a Zombie",

5188
04:06:53,792 --> 04:06:55,078
you know, "White Zombie".

5189
04:06:55,102 --> 04:06:56,700
That was kind of zombies.

5190
04:06:56,724 --> 04:07:00,388
But now, zombie
became synonymous with
living dead people.

5191
04:07:00,413 --> 04:07:03,319
The whole meaning of
the word got screwed up.

5192
04:07:03,343 --> 04:07:05,630
Wes Craven is inviting us

5193
04:07:05,655 --> 04:07:08,458
to learn the history
of these monsters

5194
04:07:08,481 --> 04:07:10,147
that we're fascinated with.

5195
04:07:10,172 --> 04:07:12,147
This comes from him
being an academic.

5196
04:07:12,172 --> 04:07:15,837
He goes back to the
root of the zombie,

5197
04:07:15,861 --> 04:07:17,976
and he goes back to
Haitian folklore.

5198
04:07:18,000 --> 04:07:21,976
It's very much about the
idea of wealthy white people

5199
04:07:22,000 --> 04:07:24,595
trying to steal
cultural heritage

5200
04:07:24,620 --> 04:07:26,147
away from Haitians.

5201
04:07:26,172 --> 04:07:27,424
Now, if you don't
like the word zombie,

5202
04:07:27,448 --> 04:07:28,871
you can choose another word,

5203
04:07:28,896 --> 04:07:30,527
but the fact is,
somebody brought him

5204
04:07:30,550 --> 04:07:32,217
back from the grave,
and I want to know

5205
04:07:32,240 --> 04:07:33,595
how they did it.

5206
04:07:33,620 --> 04:07:35,871
They send Bill
Pullman's character there

5207
04:07:35,896 --> 04:07:38,112
to find out what is the secret

5208
04:07:38,137 --> 04:07:40,251
to immortality, essentially.

5209
04:07:40,274 --> 04:07:44,217
He thinks that he
understands these rituals,

5210
04:07:44,240 --> 04:07:46,251
and that he is above them,
he is a man of science,

5211
04:07:46,274 --> 04:07:47,906
but then he discovers
that he doesn't really

5212
04:07:47,931 --> 04:07:49,112
know it at all.

5213
04:07:49,137 --> 04:07:52,802
Whatever happens,
death is not the end.

5214
04:07:52,826 --> 04:07:55,354
Wes Craven is a
great, great director,

5215
04:07:55,379 --> 04:07:57,343
and comes up with great ideas.

5216
04:08:01,724 --> 04:08:03,251
Really fantastic
effects in that movie.

5217
04:08:03,274 --> 04:08:05,319
Some of the camera tricks
that they're able to do,

5218
04:08:05,343 --> 04:08:07,354
especially in the
sequences with the coffin,

5219
04:08:07,379 --> 04:08:09,000
when it fills with blood.

5220
04:08:11,206 --> 04:08:12,413
It's just phenomenal.

5221
04:08:14,000 --> 04:08:16,388
The dream sequence
with the zombie bride,

5222
04:08:16,413 --> 04:08:18,757
a snake comes out of her skull.

5223
04:08:19,965 --> 04:08:22,147
I mean, that is
incredible imagery.

5224
04:08:22,172 --> 04:08:24,240
You dreamt of me
and of the grave.

5225
04:08:25,689 --> 04:08:27,147
I know because I was there.

5226
04:08:27,172 --> 04:08:31,724
Zakes Mokae in that movie
is absolutely terrifying.

5227
04:08:34,172 --> 04:08:36,354
Bill Pullman really,
he had to put up

5228
04:08:36,379 --> 04:08:38,458
with a lot for that movie.

5229
04:08:38,481 --> 04:08:41,837
I want to hear you scream.

5230
04:08:41,861 --> 04:08:44,837
Where he's basically
in a chair, nude,

5231
04:08:44,861 --> 04:08:47,724
and a nine inch nail
that changes a lot.

5232
04:08:54,309 --> 04:08:56,802
You see it once, you're never
gonna forget that moment.

5233
04:08:56,826 --> 04:08:58,033
And get out!

5234
04:08:59,274 --> 04:09:01,769
"The Serpent and the
Rainbow" feels the most

5235
04:09:01,792 --> 04:09:04,424
like who Wes Craven
was as a person to me,

5236
04:09:04,448 --> 04:09:08,043
because he is
interrogating the way

5237
04:09:08,067 --> 04:09:11,976
that our society functions,
and our fear of death,

5238
04:09:12,000 --> 04:09:14,527
because I think
ultimately, a fear of death

5239
04:09:14,550 --> 04:09:18,033
in this film is a fear of
losing power and influence.

5240
04:09:19,102 --> 04:09:23,630
He has always reinvented horror

5241
04:09:23,655 --> 04:09:28,217
as a means to teach us
either about ourselves,

5242
04:09:28,240 --> 04:09:32,286
broader society, or about
the sins of America,

5243
04:09:32,309 --> 04:09:36,379
the way we extort other
cultures for our own gain.

5244
04:09:38,481 --> 04:09:40,976
Don't let them bury me.

5245
04:09:41,000 --> 04:09:42,413
I'm not dead!

5246
04:09:49,033 --> 04:09:52,286
When I really think
about all of my memories

5247
04:09:52,309 --> 04:09:54,147
on the set of "Sleepaway Camp",

5248
04:09:54,172 --> 04:09:56,182
we were just one big family.

5249
04:09:56,206 --> 04:09:58,665
One of the most magical
times of my life.

5250
04:09:58,689 --> 04:10:03,655
I was a 13-year-old
making this fun movie.

5251
04:10:06,000 --> 04:10:08,147
Spoiler alert, I mean
the first penis I saw

5252
04:10:08,172 --> 04:10:09,700
was my own penis, you know?

5253
04:10:09,724 --> 04:10:13,343
It was like, this was a
movie like none other.

5254
04:10:18,033 --> 04:10:21,112
Once you find out
what the ending is,

5255
04:10:21,137 --> 04:10:24,630
you start to understand
the deeper meaning.

5256
04:10:24,655 --> 04:10:26,078
And there's a lot going on.

5257
04:10:26,102 --> 04:10:30,112
Your gender identification,
your sexual orientation.

5258
04:10:30,137 --> 04:10:31,871
It was never intended to have

5259
04:10:31,896 --> 04:10:34,837
any kind of negative connotation

5260
04:10:34,861 --> 04:10:37,976
on any aspect of life.

5261
04:10:38,000 --> 04:10:39,343
Goodnight, campers.

5262
04:10:40,585 --> 04:10:42,319
"Sleepaway Camp 2".

5263
04:10:42,343 --> 04:10:45,388
Michael Simpson called
about portraying Angela

5264
04:10:45,413 --> 04:10:47,182
possibly in Parts 2 and 3.

5265
04:10:47,206 --> 04:10:48,527
It was the late 80s.

5266
04:10:48,550 --> 04:10:49,976
We were seeing more comedy.

5267
04:10:50,000 --> 04:10:53,896
And I just didn't take very
well to that character.

5268
04:10:55,757 --> 04:10:56,837
Wake up, everybody!

5269
04:10:56,861 --> 04:10:58,182
Breakfast in half an hour!

5270
04:10:58,206 --> 04:10:59,354
I put it on hold.

5271
04:10:59,379 --> 04:11:01,448
I'm young, let me go to school.

5272
04:11:03,172 --> 04:11:05,976
Robert Hiltzik made this
movie, and it was great.

5273
04:11:06,000 --> 04:11:08,319
So when Robert wrote the sequel,

5274
04:11:08,343 --> 04:11:12,112
he continued that dark
movie that was made,

5275
04:11:12,137 --> 04:11:14,217
and the producers
were like, nah.

5276
04:11:14,240 --> 04:11:16,734
We want to really
play into Angela.

5277
04:11:16,757 --> 04:11:19,112
Fritz Gordon is actually
Michael Hitchcock,

5278
04:11:19,137 --> 04:11:20,493
who wrote Glee.

5279
04:11:20,516 --> 04:11:22,769
He was brought in to
write the horror comedy.

5280
04:11:22,792 --> 04:11:24,458
There's lots of good kids.

5281
04:11:24,481 --> 04:11:26,493
We just have to
weed out the bad.

5282
04:11:26,516 --> 04:11:28,078
But it's mainly one liners,

5283
04:11:28,102 --> 04:11:29,941
and just kind of
Pamela Springsteen

5284
04:11:29,965 --> 04:11:31,941
taking this Angela character,

5285
04:11:31,965 --> 04:11:35,424
and just amplifying it so much.

5286
04:11:35,448 --> 04:11:37,343
Say no to drugs.

5287
04:11:41,172 --> 04:11:43,837
She brought so much energy.

5288
04:11:43,861 --> 04:11:46,251
That was an Angela that was fun.

5289
04:11:46,274 --> 04:11:47,448
You talk too much.

5290
04:11:50,620 --> 04:11:54,424
Also, them playing with
the transgender character,

5291
04:11:54,448 --> 04:11:59,078
fully a woman, has completely
undergone everything.

5292
04:11:59,102 --> 04:12:00,769
A surgery and all.

5293
04:12:00,792 --> 04:12:03,665
You're Angela Baker,
the angel of death!

5294
04:12:03,689 --> 04:12:05,319
They should have
called you Peter!

5295
04:12:05,343 --> 04:12:07,630
My name is Angela Johnson.

5296
04:12:07,655 --> 04:12:09,354
A Bruce Springsteen sister.

5297
04:12:09,379 --> 04:12:10,665
She kept it secret.

5298
04:12:10,689 --> 04:12:11,665
She wanted to be an actress,

5299
04:12:11,690 --> 04:12:12,906
but I guess it wasn't for her.

5300
04:12:12,931 --> 04:12:14,826
She ended up doing
photography instead.

5301
04:12:16,067 --> 04:12:19,043
Some of Bruce
Springsteen's album covers

5302
04:12:19,067 --> 04:12:22,630
is Pamela Springsteen's
photographs.

5303
04:12:22,655 --> 04:12:24,561
I was once a camper myself.

5304
04:12:24,585 --> 04:12:26,458
She's the boss' sister.

5305
04:12:26,481 --> 04:12:28,206
She was born cool.

5306
04:12:30,102 --> 04:12:32,458
Angela is killing
because she's bullied.

5307
04:12:32,481 --> 04:12:34,941
She's weeding out
all the bad kids,

5308
04:12:34,965 --> 04:12:36,319
and she's on top of it,

5309
04:12:36,343 --> 04:12:38,700
and she doesn't care
what anyone thinks.

5310
04:12:38,724 --> 04:12:40,000
Please, don't!

5311
04:12:42,620 --> 04:12:43,802
Sorry!

5312
04:12:43,826 --> 04:12:45,976
Once I start a task,
I always finish.

5313
04:12:46,000 --> 04:12:48,147
It has some kind
of cruel deaths,

5314
04:12:48,172 --> 04:12:50,826
like shoving somebody
down a Porta Potty.

5315
04:12:51,655 --> 04:12:52,655
What's down there?

5316
04:12:54,274 --> 04:12:55,906
The leeches
attached to her face,

5317
04:12:55,931 --> 04:12:58,217
she's obviously covered
in poop and pee,

5318
04:12:58,240 --> 04:12:59,837
and it's just like, ugh.

5319
04:12:59,861 --> 04:13:02,286
What a horrible way to die.

5320
04:13:02,309 --> 04:13:03,941
I love that outhouse scene.

5321
04:13:03,965 --> 04:13:05,724
That was disgusting!

5322
04:13:07,620 --> 04:13:09,665
It's a perfect,
perfect, perfect blend

5323
04:13:09,689 --> 04:13:11,665
of horror and comedy.

5324
04:13:11,689 --> 04:13:12,976
A lot of people say
"Part 2" 's my favorite,

5325
04:13:13,000 --> 04:13:14,620
and I think that's fantastic.

5326
04:13:17,240 --> 04:13:20,251
I do wish I had
played those roles.

5327
04:13:20,274 --> 04:13:21,527
I do.

5328
04:13:21,550 --> 04:13:23,319
I always say I have
no regrets in life.

5329
04:13:23,343 --> 04:13:24,148
None.

5330
04:13:24,173 --> 04:13:26,182
But I do regret that.

5331
04:13:26,206 --> 04:13:28,137
Even if you're
sad, you gotta eat.

5332
04:13:29,274 --> 04:13:30,906
Isn't that right, Leah?

5333
04:13:30,931 --> 04:13:32,802
Just would have been super cool

5334
04:13:32,826 --> 04:13:35,802
to feel like I had done
the entire franchise.

5335
04:13:35,826 --> 04:13:37,906
I think the series
is empowering.

5336
04:13:37,931 --> 04:13:39,734
I've watched it over 40 years

5337
04:13:39,757 --> 04:13:41,906
grow into this, you know,

5338
04:13:41,931 --> 04:13:44,043
it has a life of its own.

5339
04:13:44,067 --> 04:13:46,665
"Sleepaway Camp" is
so interesting to me.

5340
04:13:46,689 --> 04:13:48,906
I still have so many questions.

5341
04:13:48,931 --> 04:13:50,757
I'm completely cured.

5342
04:13:52,550 --> 04:13:55,240
If I wasn't, they
wouldn't have let me out.

5343
04:14:04,861 --> 04:14:07,112
"Don't Panic" really
feels like it was

5344
04:14:07,137 --> 04:14:09,112
made by a fan for fans.

5345
04:14:09,137 --> 04:14:09,976
One!

5346
04:14:10,000 --> 04:14:11,000
Two!

5347
04:14:12,172 --> 04:14:13,724
Three!

5348
04:14:18,274 --> 04:14:21,734
This 17-year-old boy has a party

5349
04:14:21,757 --> 04:14:24,630
where his friends surprise
him with the Ouija board.

5350
04:14:24,655 --> 04:14:27,665
And if you thought this movie
was about the Ouija board,

5351
04:14:27,689 --> 04:14:29,137
oh you thought wrong.

5352
04:14:34,792 --> 04:14:37,595
In Spanish, "Don't
Panic" was called

5353
04:14:37,620 --> 04:14:41,665
"Dimensiones Ocultas", which
means occult dimensions.

5354
04:14:41,689 --> 04:14:45,043
At that time, the only way
was to shoot in English,

5355
04:14:45,067 --> 04:14:47,240
sell it in the
international markets.

5356
04:14:48,896 --> 04:14:53,251
We tried to hire actors
that were English fluent,

5357
04:14:53,274 --> 04:14:55,240
and that had an
international look.

5358
04:15:00,274 --> 04:15:02,078
Let's look at the
character Michael.

5359
04:15:02,102 --> 04:15:03,769
That's what I call a pullet.

5360
04:15:03,792 --> 04:15:06,251
You have a perm on your mullet.

5361
04:15:06,274 --> 04:15:10,837
And you're wearing dinosaur
pajamas at 17 years old.

5362
04:15:10,861 --> 04:15:11,665
They're after me.

5363
04:15:11,689 --> 04:15:12,563
They're gonna get me.

5364
04:15:12,586 --> 04:15:13,941
Don't worry, baby.

5365
04:15:13,965 --> 04:15:15,620
I won't let anybody hurt you.

5366
04:15:16,757 --> 04:15:19,458
I always get questions
about those pajamas.

5367
04:15:19,481 --> 04:15:21,941
They seem to be the
most memorable aspect

5368
04:15:21,965 --> 04:15:24,251
of "Don't Panic".

5369
04:15:24,274 --> 04:15:25,700
Michael.

5370
04:15:25,724 --> 04:15:28,354
This time you have to stop him.

5371
04:15:28,379 --> 04:15:29,976
Don't fail.

5372
04:15:30,000 --> 04:15:31,424
What the fuck?

5373
04:15:31,448 --> 04:15:35,630
It almost felt like a
medically induced dream fever.

5374
04:15:35,655 --> 04:15:37,481
It was just so out there.

5375
04:15:38,481 --> 04:15:39,481
Hurry!

5376
04:15:42,620 --> 04:15:45,424
Do you believe in Satan?

5377
04:15:45,448 --> 04:15:47,802
Roberto Palazuelos is playing

5378
04:15:47,826 --> 04:15:50,837
the character of
a tough bully guy.

5379
04:15:50,861 --> 04:15:54,043
He goes inside the car,
sticks his head out

5380
04:15:54,067 --> 04:15:55,585
from the window.

5381
04:15:58,413 --> 04:16:01,078
What Screaming Mad
George did for us,

5382
04:16:01,102 --> 04:16:03,286
he made a piece of prosthetic,

5383
04:16:03,309 --> 04:16:06,802
like a retractable
knife inside the mouth.

5384
04:16:06,826 --> 04:16:08,871
And then when he
opened his mouth,

5385
04:16:08,896 --> 04:16:10,630
you could see the blade pop,

5386
04:16:10,655 --> 04:16:12,424
and the blood come
out of the mouth.

5387
04:16:12,448 --> 04:16:14,413
I think it was a very good kill.

5388
04:16:18,413 --> 04:16:20,665
It really became a success

5389
04:16:20,689 --> 04:16:22,700
when video came out.

5390
04:16:22,724 --> 04:16:25,078
And then we started
getting requests

5391
04:16:25,102 --> 04:16:26,493
from all the world.

5392
04:16:26,516 --> 04:16:31,137
We sold it in United Kingdom,
Japan, China, Germany.

5393
04:16:32,000 --> 04:16:32,907
I've gotta save Christie!

5394
04:16:32,932 --> 04:16:34,102
Please listen to me!

5395
04:16:36,965 --> 04:16:40,941
It scared the shit out
of the audience.

5396
04:16:40,965 --> 04:16:44,043
You want to play games?

5397
04:16:44,067 --> 04:16:45,067
Good.

5398
04:16:46,000 --> 04:16:47,033
I like games.

5399
04:16:54,033 --> 04:16:56,309
Say your prayers.

5400
04:16:58,620 --> 04:17:00,217
"Lady in White".

5401
04:17:00,240 --> 04:17:03,561
"Lady in White" is a
particularly strong example

5402
04:17:03,585 --> 04:17:04,976
of gateway horror.

5403
04:17:05,000 --> 04:17:08,043
That was one of the scariest
movies I saw as a kid,

5404
04:17:08,067 --> 04:17:11,424
because it's dealing with
very, very dark material,

5405
04:17:11,448 --> 04:17:13,906
and it's stuff that could
happen in real life.

5406
04:17:13,931 --> 04:17:16,871
The titular lady in
white is a ghost,

5407
04:17:16,896 --> 04:17:19,286
but what this movie
is really about

5408
04:17:19,309 --> 04:17:21,655
is a child killer.

5409
04:17:23,585 --> 04:17:25,976
It was seven years
between "Fear No Evil"

5410
04:17:26,000 --> 04:17:27,837
and "Lady in White"
before I got back

5411
04:17:27,861 --> 04:17:29,078
behind the camera again.

5412
04:17:29,102 --> 04:17:30,837
It was a remarkable experience,

5413
04:17:30,861 --> 04:17:34,043
such a far cry from
"Fear No Evil".

5414
04:17:34,067 --> 04:17:35,976
What I wanted to do this time

5415
04:17:36,000 --> 04:17:37,700
was really try to make something

5416
04:17:37,724 --> 04:17:40,388
that was personal on an
autobiographical level.

5417
04:17:40,413 --> 04:17:43,595
A beautiful story
about what it was like

5418
04:17:43,620 --> 04:17:44,871
growing up in that era,

5419
04:17:44,896 --> 04:17:48,769
and combine it with
this ghost story,

5420
04:17:48,792 --> 04:17:50,527
that drives it thematically,

5421
04:17:50,550 --> 04:17:53,379
and perhaps more
so commercially.

5422
04:17:59,309 --> 04:18:01,906
It's like the most
cinematic version of Halloween

5423
04:18:01,931 --> 04:18:03,043
that you can have.

5424
04:18:03,067 --> 04:18:04,527
It smells like Halloween,

5425
04:18:04,550 --> 04:18:07,871
like you watch that movie,
and it tastes like candy corn.

5426
04:18:07,896 --> 04:18:09,182
The seasonal feel.

5427
04:18:09,206 --> 04:18:10,734
We began during the fall,

5428
04:18:10,757 --> 04:18:13,354
and the moved into
the winter months.

5429
04:18:13,379 --> 04:18:16,147
I wanted a contrast
between the darkness

5430
04:18:16,172 --> 04:18:18,561
that was going to
happen in the film,

5431
04:18:18,585 --> 04:18:21,689
and these beautiful
bucolic moments.

5432
04:18:23,620 --> 04:18:24,871
Hey!

5433
04:18:24,896 --> 04:18:27,010
The first image
that came to mind

5434
04:18:27,033 --> 04:18:29,871
for "Lady in White" was
this image of Frankie

5435
04:18:29,896 --> 04:18:32,102
being locked in the cloakroom.

5436
04:18:34,379 --> 04:18:36,769
Comforted
by their ancient voices,

5437
04:18:36,792 --> 04:18:38,734
and I began to dream.

5438
04:18:38,757 --> 04:18:41,458
Lukas Haas plays
Frankie in this.

5439
04:18:41,481 --> 04:18:42,595
I'd seen him in "Witness",

5440
04:18:42,620 --> 04:18:43,976
I'd seen him in "Testament",

5441
04:18:44,000 --> 04:18:46,067
and I knew that this
kid was extraordinary.

5442
04:18:47,274 --> 04:18:51,493
He had an innate ability
to express his feelings.

5443
04:18:51,516 --> 04:18:53,630
That's what acting's all about.

5444
04:18:53,655 --> 04:18:57,424
Mom used to say sometimes
when someone dies violent,

5445
04:18:57,448 --> 04:18:58,802
they can't rest in peace.

5446
04:18:58,826 --> 04:19:01,251
The story is as much
about a time and place

5447
04:19:01,274 --> 04:19:03,251
as anything else.

5448
04:19:03,274 --> 04:19:04,976
A key character is a black man

5449
04:19:05,000 --> 04:19:07,700
who gets caught in the
madness of what's happening,

5450
04:19:07,724 --> 04:19:09,976
what's going on in that town.

5451
04:19:10,000 --> 04:19:12,424
Dealing with issues of race,

5452
04:19:12,448 --> 04:19:14,078
particular as it
relates to the lady,

5453
04:19:14,102 --> 04:19:16,078
what was going on in that era,

5454
04:19:16,102 --> 04:19:18,769
and being truthful as
to how people spoke,

5455
04:19:18,792 --> 04:19:21,010
how they reacted, how they dealt

5456
04:19:21,033 --> 04:19:22,976
with each other between races.

5457
04:19:23,000 --> 04:19:25,010
I wanted nothing but the truth.

5458
04:19:25,033 --> 04:19:27,286
Harold Williams is
a perfect scapegoat.

5459
04:19:27,309 --> 04:19:28,309
He's black.

5460
04:19:29,585 --> 04:19:32,424
When it comes to pure
cinematic drive and force,

5461
04:19:32,448 --> 04:19:34,826
I think the climax
works beautifully.

5462
04:19:36,413 --> 04:19:38,043
I think that theme of loss

5463
04:19:38,067 --> 04:19:39,286
and coming to terms with loss

5464
04:19:39,309 --> 04:19:42,251
and dealing with
loss is universal.

5465
04:19:42,274 --> 04:19:45,182
My mommy's lost
and I can't find her.

5466
04:19:45,206 --> 04:19:47,388
The "Lady in White",
it fucked me up.

5467
04:19:47,413 --> 04:19:50,182
Seeing it as a kid, in a
way that it just becomes

5468
04:19:50,206 --> 04:19:52,906
like embedded in you,
and become a core memory.

5469
04:19:52,931 --> 04:19:55,251
10-year-old
Melissa N. Montgomery

5470
04:19:55,274 --> 04:19:58,182
was the first victim believed
to have been murdered.

5471
04:19:58,206 --> 04:20:00,319
I'm glad that people
are still discovering

5472
04:20:00,343 --> 04:20:01,343
"Lady in White".

5473
04:20:06,240 --> 04:20:08,251
It continues to remain
somewhat hidden.

5474
04:20:08,274 --> 04:20:09,595
It's fun for me.

5475
04:20:09,620 --> 04:20:11,354
I already told him.

5476
04:20:11,379 --> 04:20:14,000
Her mother is the lady in white.

5477
04:20:23,240 --> 04:20:24,769
I'm awake!

5478
04:20:24,792 --> 04:20:26,286
"Dream Demon".

5479
04:20:26,309 --> 04:20:27,458
"Dream Demon".

5480
04:20:27,481 --> 04:20:29,561
The movie was
about the fine line

5481
04:20:29,585 --> 04:20:31,906
between dreams and reality.

5482
04:20:31,931 --> 04:20:34,837
I think I'm awake, and
then I keep waking up.

5483
04:20:34,861 --> 04:20:36,043
This is crazy.

5484
04:20:36,067 --> 04:20:37,319
You better call that
doctor friend of yours.

5485
04:20:37,343 --> 04:20:39,493
My character was
like a punk rock chick

5486
04:20:39,516 --> 04:20:42,182
connected to this English girl.

5487
04:20:42,206 --> 04:20:43,493
Wake up, Diana!

5488
04:20:43,516 --> 04:20:44,388
Come on!

5489
04:20:44,413 --> 04:20:45,183
Wake up!

5490
04:20:45,207 --> 04:20:46,769
Diana, please!

5491
04:20:46,792 --> 04:20:49,734
Ultimately we realized
that through our dreams

5492
04:20:49,757 --> 04:20:52,802
and in our ability to
crawl into our dreams,

5493
04:20:52,826 --> 04:20:55,585
I think that we
ended up bonding.

5494
04:20:56,481 --> 04:20:57,287
Cheers.

5495
04:20:57,310 --> 04:20:58,424
Now wake up!

5496
04:20:58,448 --> 04:21:00,286
Come on, wake up!

5497
04:21:00,309 --> 04:21:01,148
Wake up!

5498
04:21:01,173 --> 04:21:02,388
Stop!

5499
04:21:02,413 --> 04:21:03,871
I loved working
with Gemma Redgrave.

5500
04:21:03,896 --> 04:21:05,413
She was like my best friend.

5501
04:21:06,516 --> 04:21:07,906
No that's, no that's,
that's very good.

5502
04:21:07,931 --> 04:21:09,757
That's really very good.

5503
04:21:10,931 --> 04:21:13,769
Timothy Spall and Jimmy Nail.

5504
04:21:13,792 --> 04:21:15,700
I remember having
good laughs with them.

5505
04:21:15,724 --> 04:21:17,147
Hey come on, leave her alone.

5506
04:21:17,172 --> 04:21:18,871
What do you think
she is, dog meat?

5507
04:21:18,896 --> 04:21:19,770
Piss off, darling.

5508
04:21:19,793 --> 04:21:20,941
We're the press!

5509
04:21:20,965 --> 04:21:22,724
Oh yeah, well
print this, dickhead!

5510
04:21:23,550 --> 04:21:24,550
It was an adventure,

5511
04:21:25,689 --> 04:21:29,172
some groundbreaking
special effects.

5512
04:21:31,413 --> 04:21:33,837
All of these art director types

5513
04:21:33,861 --> 04:21:36,424
that got to really stretch
out their creativity

5514
04:21:36,448 --> 04:21:39,965
and just be as
gross as possible.

5515
04:21:42,516 --> 04:21:44,286
So I'd be like, huh.

5516
04:21:44,309 --> 04:21:47,206
She's crawling
through slime today.

5517
04:21:51,000 --> 04:21:52,871
The script was peculiar.

5518
04:21:52,896 --> 04:21:54,458
They had so many rewrites,

5519
04:21:54,481 --> 04:21:56,757
and the director
was kind of a nut.

5520
04:21:58,172 --> 04:22:00,424
They wanted me to stand in front

5521
04:22:00,448 --> 04:22:02,769
of these six foot flames.

5522
04:22:02,792 --> 04:22:05,700
It's hot, right?

5523
04:22:05,724 --> 04:22:07,734
The director was like
okay, you're gonna come in

5524
04:22:07,757 --> 04:22:09,734
in front of that
flame, and I'm like,

5525
04:22:09,757 --> 04:22:12,561
how about this, fuck
no I'm not gonna stand

5526
04:22:12,585 --> 04:22:14,871
in front of, and then
he got really mad at me,

5527
04:22:14,896 --> 04:22:16,665
and I was like, I'm not
standing in front of that.

5528
04:22:16,689 --> 04:22:17,769
That is dangerous.

5529
04:22:17,792 --> 04:22:18,871
Forget you.

5530
04:22:18,896 --> 04:22:20,319
You stand in front of it.

5531
04:22:20,343 --> 04:22:21,561
He's like, all right fine!

5532
04:22:21,585 --> 04:22:23,251
He stands in front of it,

5533
04:22:23,274 --> 04:22:25,757
and he singes the
back of his hair.

5534
04:22:28,965 --> 04:22:31,802
I have not worked with
Harley Cokeliss since.

5535
04:22:31,826 --> 04:22:35,757
I don't think I was his
favorite actress.

5536
04:22:37,379 --> 04:22:38,493
Diana!

5537
04:22:38,516 --> 04:22:39,941
The most challenging aspect

5538
04:22:39,965 --> 04:22:41,251
of working on horror films,

5539
04:22:41,274 --> 04:22:43,561
it's me screaming and crying.

5540
04:22:43,585 --> 04:22:48,516
It's me bringing to life my
own personal freaking fear,

5541
04:22:49,965 --> 04:22:51,595
so I guess bringing your
own reality to the screen

5542
04:22:51,620 --> 04:22:53,493
is the trickiest bit.

5543
04:22:53,516 --> 04:22:54,906
But what a blast.

5544
04:22:54,931 --> 04:22:56,112
I'll do it any day of the week.

5545
04:22:56,137 --> 04:22:57,424
Pay me.

5546
04:22:57,448 --> 04:22:58,550
Where's my mark?

5547
04:23:03,585 --> 04:23:04,837
Anybody who thinks
it's a good idea

5548
04:23:04,861 --> 04:23:06,871
to get shaved by a monkey

5549
04:23:06,896 --> 04:23:10,769
needs to reassess
their life plan.

5550
04:23:10,792 --> 04:23:11,976
You're not gonna hurt me.

5551
04:23:12,000 --> 04:23:12,977
I'm part of you.

5552
04:23:13,001 --> 04:23:14,802
"Monkey Shines".

5553
04:23:14,826 --> 04:23:16,941
A leap into terror.

5554
04:23:16,965 --> 04:23:20,112
"Monkey Shines"
is about a mind meld

5555
04:23:20,137 --> 04:23:24,043
between a man, who
suffered a horrible injury,

5556
04:23:24,067 --> 04:23:27,286
and this monkey.

5557
04:23:27,309 --> 04:23:29,010
You're giving me a monkey?

5558
04:23:29,033 --> 04:23:30,700
How am I supposed to
take care of it, Jeff?

5559
04:23:30,724 --> 04:23:32,595
The idea is that it's
gonna take care of you.

5560
04:23:32,620 --> 04:23:34,976
He ends up becoming telepathic

5561
04:23:35,000 --> 04:23:37,424
with this monkey, and
the monkey ends up

5562
04:23:37,448 --> 04:23:39,286
becoming kind of
jealous of the people

5563
04:23:39,309 --> 04:23:41,700
that are close to our main dude.

5564
04:23:41,724 --> 04:23:42,965
Allan-

5565
04:23:46,481 --> 04:23:48,078
And the monkey starts to enact

5566
04:23:48,102 --> 04:23:51,976
a lot of the rage that the
quadriplegic is experiencing,

5567
04:23:52,000 --> 04:23:54,655
and people start to be killed.

5568
04:23:59,448 --> 04:24:01,837
It sounds all very far-fetched,

5569
04:24:01,861 --> 04:24:03,734
but the way that
Romero handles it

5570
04:24:03,757 --> 04:24:06,388
is completely expert,
and a perfect example

5571
04:24:06,413 --> 04:24:08,700
of what a great
filmmaker Romero was,

5572
04:24:08,724 --> 04:24:11,274
even out of the zone of zombies.

5573
04:24:12,620 --> 04:24:14,043
Yeah, yeah.

5574
04:24:14,067 --> 04:24:15,493
I made up a formulation
based on human memory cells.

5575
04:24:15,516 --> 04:24:16,976
I've been injecting
one of my monkeys.

5576
04:24:17,000 --> 04:24:18,976
George sets the tone.

5577
04:24:19,000 --> 04:24:20,286
Come on, give it right here.

5578
04:24:20,309 --> 04:24:21,413
Now, now.

5579
04:24:22,343 --> 04:24:23,252
- Thank you.
- Good girl.

5580
04:24:23,275 --> 04:24:25,000
It was a fun set to be on.

5581
04:24:26,448 --> 04:24:27,665
Jason Beghe.

5582
04:24:27,689 --> 04:24:29,147
I liked Jason a lot.

5583
04:24:29,172 --> 04:24:30,941
He was a very intense guy.

5584
04:24:30,965 --> 04:24:32,078
Don't.

5585
04:24:32,102 --> 04:24:32,941
Do not.

5586
04:24:32,966 --> 04:24:34,206
Don't do it!

5587
04:24:35,379 --> 04:24:36,630
Goddam you, you-

5588
04:24:36,655 --> 04:24:38,424
I think it was a lot
more pressure for him.

5589
04:24:38,448 --> 04:24:41,379
He was carrying
that film, really.

5590
04:24:45,000 --> 04:24:46,112
I love monkeys!

5591
04:24:46,137 --> 04:24:47,665
Monkeys are awesome!

5592
04:24:47,689 --> 04:24:49,976
Well, not so much.

5593
04:24:50,000 --> 04:24:52,655
Kind of scary, really.

5594
04:24:53,861 --> 04:24:56,182
I really wanted to
love the monkeys,

5595
04:24:56,206 --> 04:24:57,941
but truthfully, I
had to really fake

5596
04:24:57,965 --> 04:24:59,354
not being scared.

5597
04:24:59,379 --> 04:25:01,010
Hey, company's here.

5598
04:25:01,033 --> 04:25:01,941
Come on.

5599
04:25:01,966 --> 04:25:03,458
They're very strong.

5600
04:25:03,481 --> 04:25:06,595
In the pivotal scene,
monkey's trying to drug me

5601
04:25:06,620 --> 04:25:09,010
with this hypodermic needle.

5602
04:25:09,033 --> 04:25:11,792
I had to wrestle
with the monkey.

5603
04:25:12,724 --> 04:25:14,182
And a lot of that was a puppet.

5604
04:25:14,206 --> 04:25:16,527
But there was one short time

5605
04:25:16,550 --> 04:25:18,458
where I was actually holding on

5606
04:25:18,481 --> 04:25:19,388
to a real monkey.

5607
04:25:19,413 --> 04:25:20,413
Ella, no!

5608
04:25:24,620 --> 04:25:26,493
I can't say I had a lot
of affection for them.

5609
04:25:26,516 --> 04:25:27,896
But I faked it really well.

5610
04:25:29,172 --> 04:25:30,941
And we had that love scene

5611
04:25:30,965 --> 04:25:33,837
that was one of the
more challenging scenes

5612
04:25:33,861 --> 04:25:35,137
I've ever had to do.

5613
04:25:36,274 --> 04:25:38,906
As a young boy,
watching that sequence

5614
04:25:38,931 --> 04:25:41,802
and wondering about how this guy

5615
04:25:41,826 --> 04:25:44,769
was going to have an
encounter with this woman

5616
04:25:44,792 --> 04:25:45,976
that we knew he liked,

5617
04:25:46,000 --> 04:25:48,147
and the way that happened,

5618
04:25:48,172 --> 04:25:49,976
the harness thing for his bed,

5619
04:25:50,000 --> 04:25:54,976
and this monkey's watching,
like getting angry.

5620
04:25:55,000 --> 04:25:57,067
That movie's messed up, man.

5621
04:25:58,379 --> 04:25:59,493
We were in it together,

5622
04:25:59,516 --> 04:26:00,941
and we got through it.

5623
04:26:00,965 --> 04:26:02,458
I do believe we
drank a little bit

5624
04:26:02,481 --> 04:26:05,458
of champagne during it to relax,

5625
04:26:05,481 --> 04:26:10,319
because it's so hard, these
intimate scenes, you know?

5626
04:26:10,343 --> 04:26:11,792
With a crew.

5627
04:26:13,724 --> 04:26:16,458
It's a scene I'm
actually pretty proud of.

5628
04:26:16,481 --> 04:26:18,182
"Monkey Shines"
is George Romero's

5629
04:26:18,206 --> 04:26:19,665
first studio movie.

5630
04:26:19,689 --> 04:26:22,286
The movie was taken
away from him and recut,

5631
04:26:22,309 --> 04:26:24,826
after he added things
that they asked for.

5632
04:26:26,481 --> 04:26:28,388
The original ending
was much darker,

5633
04:26:28,413 --> 04:26:30,112
and they hated that.

5634
04:26:30,137 --> 04:26:33,286
I wish we could see
George's original vision.

5635
04:26:33,309 --> 04:26:35,700
It's what happens when
you work for a studio.

5636
04:26:35,724 --> 04:26:37,010
The movie's not yours.

5637
04:26:37,033 --> 04:26:40,078
Even if it wasn't
appreciated at the time,

5638
04:26:40,102 --> 04:26:42,630
I think anybody who
appreciates George

5639
04:26:42,655 --> 04:26:45,286
is gonna take another
look at any of his work.

5640
04:26:45,309 --> 04:26:47,000
It's an interesting story.

5641
04:26:48,379 --> 04:26:50,837
It has survived better
than I would have thought

5642
04:26:50,861 --> 04:26:53,000
at the time, that's for sure.

5643
04:27:01,689 --> 04:27:02,976
"Black Roses".

5644
04:27:03,000 --> 04:27:06,976
The hottest band
this side of hell.

5645
04:27:07,000 --> 04:27:08,976
A big heavy metal band is coming

5646
04:27:09,000 --> 04:27:10,802
to do a series of concerts,

5647
04:27:10,826 --> 04:27:13,976
and the parents in the town
are very much against it,

5648
04:27:14,000 --> 04:27:16,620
because you know, rock and
roll leads to the devil.

5649
04:27:17,757 --> 04:27:20,217
The fact that we had
Julie Adams in the movie

5650
04:27:20,240 --> 04:27:22,319
was a thrill for all
of us monster kids,

5651
04:27:22,343 --> 04:27:25,319
because she was in "The
Creature from the Black Lagoon".

5652
04:27:25,343 --> 04:27:28,286
Their satanic music
and subversive lyrics

5653
04:27:28,309 --> 04:27:31,802
threaten to undermine the
very fabric of our society.

5654
04:27:31,826 --> 04:27:33,251
John Fasano.

5655
04:27:33,274 --> 04:27:35,448
We did four movies
in four years.

5656
04:27:36,861 --> 04:27:40,319
John and I had known each
other since elementary school.

5657
04:27:40,343 --> 04:27:42,010
And so now, here
comes the biggest thing

5658
04:27:42,033 --> 04:27:45,286
to hit Mill Basin ever,
and they try to stop it?

5659
04:27:45,309 --> 04:27:46,906
You call that good?

5660
04:27:46,931 --> 04:27:51,010
When the investors saw
the first cut of the film,

5661
04:27:51,033 --> 04:27:53,527
they were like,
it's a little short.

5662
04:27:53,550 --> 04:27:56,792
It needs more monsters,
and more boobs.

5663
04:27:58,516 --> 04:28:01,630
So we shot these
additional sequences.

5664
04:28:01,655 --> 04:28:05,206
I did do some special
effects for the reshoot.

5665
04:28:06,481 --> 04:28:09,700
John wanted her hand
to be starting to look

5666
04:28:09,724 --> 04:28:14,724
like it was changing, so
I sculpted an appliance.

5667
04:28:16,137 --> 04:28:18,319
She's there, and she's sort of
caressing herself like this,

5668
04:28:18,343 --> 04:28:22,172
and I'm just going like,
nobody's looking at that hand.

5669
04:28:26,861 --> 04:28:29,516
Mike Maddi designed
this creature.

5670
04:28:34,033 --> 04:28:35,734
It was like bald, and
had these huge fangs,

5671
04:28:35,757 --> 04:28:39,102
and these long, sinewy
arms, and talons.

5672
04:28:40,585 --> 04:28:44,516
And it took five of us
to work that puppet.

5673
04:28:48,172 --> 04:28:49,595
It's definitely a major leap

5674
04:28:49,620 --> 04:28:52,078
from "Rock 'n' Roll Nightmare"
in terms of the effects.

5675
04:28:52,102 --> 04:28:54,965
The record starts bubbling up.

5676
04:28:57,033 --> 04:28:58,561
What the fuck?

5677
04:28:58,585 --> 04:29:02,000
And then it becomes this
creature that attacks him.

5678
04:29:06,689 --> 04:29:09,078
Probably the best
effect in the movie,

5679
04:29:09,102 --> 04:29:13,734
listening to metal, and metal
inviting in this monster.

5680
04:29:13,757 --> 04:29:16,896
It's clearly playing
on satanic panic.

5681
04:29:21,102 --> 04:29:23,665
Maybe the parents in
the PTA have a point,

5682
04:29:23,689 --> 04:29:25,941
and this is Satan music.

5683
04:29:25,965 --> 04:29:27,137
So that's kind of funny.

5684
04:29:28,137 --> 04:29:29,137
Let's make blood city!

5685
04:29:33,033 --> 04:29:35,388
"Black Roses", yeah the
band actually are from hell.

5686
04:29:35,413 --> 04:29:37,010
What do you know?

5687
04:29:37,033 --> 04:29:38,274
We are the Black Roses.

5688
04:29:39,655 --> 04:29:42,078
The flowers of evil!

5689
04:29:42,102 --> 04:29:44,000
You have been chosen.

5690
04:29:52,896 --> 04:29:54,112
"The Brain".

5691
04:29:54,137 --> 04:29:55,319
What I love about that title

5692
04:29:55,343 --> 04:29:57,388
is that nobody
would second guess

5693
04:29:57,413 --> 04:29:59,217
that a movie called "The Brain"

5694
04:29:59,240 --> 04:30:02,102
is about a brain
that kills people.

5695
04:30:08,792 --> 04:30:12,251
The plot revolves around
this evil scientist

5696
04:30:12,274 --> 04:30:14,388
played by David Gale,
who you might remember

5697
04:30:14,413 --> 04:30:17,147
as the professor
in "Re-Animator".

5698
04:30:17,172 --> 04:30:18,172
I will be famous!

5699
04:30:21,896 --> 04:30:25,527
He runs this TV show
that brainwashes people,

5700
04:30:25,550 --> 04:30:27,561
and gains control of their minds

5701
04:30:27,585 --> 04:30:29,976
with the help of this
weird brain monster,

5702
04:30:30,000 --> 04:30:32,493
and then there's this
rebel high school student,

5703
04:30:32,516 --> 04:30:35,147
who's the only one who
can resist the brain's

5704
04:30:35,172 --> 04:30:37,861
mind controlling power,
and save the day.

5705
04:30:39,481 --> 04:30:40,700
You can go now.

5706
04:30:40,724 --> 04:30:42,010
What the hell happened to me?

5707
04:30:42,033 --> 04:30:44,837
But not without some
horrific hallucinations.

5708
04:30:44,861 --> 04:30:47,010
The protagonist,
he's driving the car,

5709
04:30:47,033 --> 04:30:50,424
and the brain is sort
of taking over his mind.

5710
04:30:50,448 --> 04:30:51,976
I mean, could you imagine that?

5711
04:30:52,000 --> 04:30:53,182
If you're driving a car,

5712
04:30:53,206 --> 04:30:55,309
and then you just see
a video wipe transition

5713
04:30:56,240 --> 04:30:57,724
turn into a brain?

5714
04:30:58,585 --> 04:31:00,000
Holy shit.

5715
04:31:05,792 --> 04:31:07,251
Look at that brain.

5716
04:31:07,274 --> 04:31:08,976
You can't tell how
it moves around.

5717
04:31:09,000 --> 04:31:10,906
All you see is
this enormous face

5718
04:31:10,931 --> 04:31:12,826
coming after people.

5719
04:31:15,343 --> 04:31:18,724
It's kind of scary, but
it's also really funny.

5720
04:31:24,000 --> 04:31:25,217
That's food for thought.

5721
04:31:25,240 --> 04:31:26,837
I mean, you just
look at that thing,

5722
04:31:26,861 --> 04:31:28,689
and you gotta love it.

5723
04:31:30,000 --> 04:31:32,319
So there's this toy and
a cartoon in the 80s

5724
04:31:32,343 --> 04:31:33,941
called Madballs.

5725
04:31:33,965 --> 04:31:35,493
Madballs, Madballs!

5726
04:31:35,516 --> 04:31:37,424
Gross for one, gross for all!

5727
04:31:37,448 --> 04:31:39,043
We play with a Madball!

5728
04:31:39,067 --> 04:31:40,354
They're gross!

5729
04:31:40,379 --> 04:31:41,320
That's what the
brain looks like.

5730
04:31:41,344 --> 04:31:43,965
It's a giant Madball attacking.

5731
04:31:56,620 --> 04:31:59,217
I worked in Madrid
on a wonderful film

5732
04:31:59,240 --> 04:32:00,734
called "Howl of the Devil".

5733
04:32:00,757 --> 04:32:01,976
I love Spain.

5734
04:32:02,000 --> 04:32:03,078
I've done quite a
bit of work in Spain

5735
04:32:03,102 --> 04:32:05,585
with Sinbad, and various things.

5736
04:32:10,000 --> 04:32:12,665
Paul Naschy, both
directing and as an actor

5737
04:32:12,689 --> 04:32:13,596
in his own right.

5738
04:32:13,620 --> 04:32:15,826
He had such presence on camera.

5739
04:32:23,724 --> 04:32:26,931
Menacing presence, but
he was very charismatic.

5740
04:32:34,826 --> 04:32:36,388
And I'd be speaking
English to him,

5741
04:32:36,413 --> 04:32:38,931
and in post, they'd dub him.

5742
04:32:43,965 --> 04:32:45,871
The plot basically was this man,

5743
04:32:45,896 --> 04:32:48,493
by day, he was quite
normal, head of the house,

5744
04:32:48,516 --> 04:32:50,906
and he had his
lovely son, Sergio.

5745
04:32:50,931 --> 04:32:52,906
And I was the maid
that came to clean up,

5746
04:32:52,931 --> 04:32:55,319
and look after the
son, basically.

5747
04:32:55,343 --> 04:32:57,319
But then by night,
he would change

5748
04:32:57,343 --> 04:32:59,493
into these wonderful characters.

5749
04:32:59,516 --> 04:33:03,217
He became Frankenstein,
he became the wolf man.

5750
04:33:03,240 --> 04:33:05,275
These very strange characters.

5751
04:33:12,723 --> 04:33:14,700
Some of the sequences
we had to do

5752
04:33:14,723 --> 04:33:17,319
the man with a
great big chainsaw

5753
04:33:17,344 --> 04:33:19,182
that came running after us.

5754
04:33:19,205 --> 04:33:22,516
No!

5755
04:33:23,931 --> 04:33:25,148
Carmen.

5756
04:33:25,171 --> 04:33:26,802
I liked her, because
she was very proud.

5757
04:33:26,827 --> 04:33:28,734
Quite a holy Catholic lady.

5758
04:33:28,758 --> 04:33:30,871
And then the priest,
who was a lovely

5759
04:33:30,896 --> 04:33:32,448
sweet, sweet actor.

5760
04:33:35,448 --> 04:33:38,067
Was trying to molest
her, to attack her.

5761
04:33:39,585 --> 04:33:41,251
It was quite an emotional
scene, actually, for me.

5762
04:33:41,275 --> 04:33:43,251
And for him, because
he was so upset.

5763
04:33:43,275 --> 04:33:45,044
He spoke English, he
said I'm so sorry,

5764
04:33:45,067 --> 04:33:46,562
he says, so sorry.

5765
04:33:46,585 --> 04:33:48,862
Paul want me to do this,
and I don't want to do it.

5766
04:33:50,000 --> 04:33:51,631
I said, we'll make it
look as good as we can,

5767
04:33:51,654 --> 04:33:54,423
but I might push you
and punch you a bit.

5768
04:33:54,448 --> 04:33:55,388
He said, that's okay.

5769
04:33:55,413 --> 04:33:56,218
He said, I don't mind.

5770
04:33:56,241 --> 04:33:57,769
You do what you do.

5771
04:33:57,793 --> 04:33:59,182
So then we went for it,

5772
04:33:59,205 --> 04:34:02,033
and I managed to get
away from him, basically.

5773
04:34:07,379 --> 04:34:09,871
It felt like one of
my better scenes,

5774
04:34:09,896 --> 04:34:13,079
because she was in a really
state of distress before it,

5775
04:34:13,102 --> 04:34:15,079
and this exacerbated it,

5776
04:34:15,102 --> 04:34:17,067
made it far worse for her.

5777
04:34:21,827 --> 04:34:24,837
Paul was, to me, the
king of Spanish cinema.

5778
04:34:24,862 --> 04:34:25,838
He absolutely was.

5779
04:34:25,863 --> 04:34:27,827
People loved him.

5780
04:34:42,241 --> 04:34:43,734
When we talk about genre,
and we try to put things

5781
04:34:43,758 --> 04:34:46,286
in boxes, one of the ways
we got in trouble very early

5782
04:34:46,310 --> 04:34:49,275
was we conflated a
setting with a feeling.

5783
04:34:50,241 --> 04:34:51,871
Horror is an emotion.

5784
04:34:51,896 --> 04:34:54,251
So you can have a
horror in space.

5785
04:34:54,275 --> 04:34:55,631
You can horror in the old west.

5786
04:34:55,654 --> 04:34:56,906
You can have horror in a comedy.

5787
04:34:56,931 --> 04:35:00,275
It looked like this!

5788
04:35:01,516 --> 04:35:03,526
Horror is about a
feeling that you evoke

5789
04:35:03,550 --> 04:35:04,940
in your audience.

5790
04:35:04,965 --> 04:35:05,965
Lollipops!

5791
04:35:07,862 --> 04:35:11,079
And all free today!

5792
04:35:11,102 --> 04:35:13,079
Horror is a more flexible genre

5793
04:35:13,102 --> 04:35:16,044
than people realize, and
oftentimes it can be found

5794
04:35:16,067 --> 04:35:19,079
hiding within other
genres, nested in there,

5795
04:35:19,102 --> 04:35:21,241
waiting to strike at any moment.

5796
04:35:23,379 --> 04:35:25,148
Fear is always there.

5797
04:35:25,171 --> 04:35:27,700
It's just one decision,
or one thought,

5798
04:35:27,723 --> 04:35:30,769
or one perspective away from
being right in your face.

5799
04:35:30,793 --> 04:35:33,171
Any movie could suddenly
become a horror movie.

5800
04:35:35,275 --> 04:35:36,423
You're dead.

5801
04:35:36,448 --> 04:35:38,217
Horror is catching
you off guard,

5802
04:35:38,241 --> 04:35:40,631
and taking you off
your axis somewhat.

5803
04:35:40,654 --> 04:35:41,654
No!

5804
04:35:48,310 --> 04:35:49,596
The horror has been
a part of our lives,

5805
04:35:49,619 --> 04:35:50,837
new just didn't know it.

5806
04:35:50,862 --> 04:35:52,871
It was dressed up
in fairy tales.

5807
04:35:52,896 --> 04:35:54,286
But it's always
been a part of us,

5808
04:35:54,310 --> 04:35:56,562
because fear and darkness

5809
04:35:56,585 --> 04:35:58,079
is always a part of your life.

5810
04:35:58,102 --> 04:35:59,102
It's part of life.

5811
04:36:00,033 --> 04:36:01,734
Disney goes very dark.

5812
04:36:01,758 --> 04:36:03,631
"Pinocchio", for instance.

5813
04:36:03,654 --> 04:36:05,275
The Pleasure Island scene.

5814
04:36:06,516 --> 04:36:08,906
Bad little boys doing
bad little things,

5815
04:36:08,931 --> 04:36:11,492
smoking cigars, gambling,

5816
04:36:11,516 --> 04:36:13,354
until they turn into donkeys,

5817
04:36:13,379 --> 04:36:14,837
because it's a cautionary tale.

5818
04:36:14,862 --> 04:36:17,492
They're doing the shit they're
not supposed to be doing,

5819
04:36:17,516 --> 04:36:19,136
and they just
start transforming.

5820
04:36:20,241 --> 04:36:21,585
What do I do?

5821
04:36:22,481 --> 04:36:23,526
"Willy Wonka".

5822
04:36:23,550 --> 04:36:25,700
Not a horror movie, per se.

5823
04:36:25,723 --> 04:36:27,388
Does it have horror elements?

5824
04:36:27,413 --> 04:36:29,492
Abso-fucking-lutely.

5825
04:36:29,516 --> 04:36:31,975
Round the world and home again!

5826
04:36:32,000 --> 04:36:33,871
That's the sailor's way!

5827
04:36:33,896 --> 04:36:36,871
The horrific
nightmare boat sequence,

5828
04:36:36,896 --> 04:36:38,596
where he's just staring deadpan,

5829
04:36:38,619 --> 04:36:41,009
and starts singing
that weird song.

5830
04:36:41,033 --> 04:36:44,009
♪ There's no earthly
way of knowing ♪

5831
04:36:44,033 --> 04:36:45,457
He's singing.

5832
04:36:45,481 --> 04:36:47,423
And there's like,
these horrible projection

5833
04:36:47,448 --> 04:36:48,793
that are happening.

5834
04:36:50,862 --> 04:36:53,044
As a child, I was sitting
there watching this

5835
04:36:53,067 --> 04:36:55,286
thinking what the
fuck is happening?

5836
04:36:55,310 --> 04:36:56,734
Now I am gonna be sick!

5837
04:36:56,758 --> 04:36:58,354
Never mind the fact
that these children

5838
04:36:58,379 --> 04:37:00,457
are just getting
offed, one by one.

5839
04:37:00,481 --> 04:37:02,379
It's kind of like
a slasher movie.

5840
04:37:03,205 --> 04:37:04,631
She was a bad egg.

5841
04:37:04,654 --> 04:37:07,562
I seem to find horror
in every film I see

5842
04:37:07,585 --> 04:37:09,481
at some point.

5843
04:37:10,827 --> 04:37:13,354
Any time you're writing
interesting characters,

5844
04:37:13,379 --> 04:37:14,734
they're gonna have a dark side,

5845
04:37:14,758 --> 04:37:17,492
and so if you get some
people with problems,

5846
04:37:17,516 --> 04:37:19,802
and issues, and
anger, and stuff,

5847
04:37:19,827 --> 04:37:22,388
then you have a
dangerous situation,

5848
04:37:22,413 --> 04:37:24,516
and that's scary.

5849
04:37:26,241 --> 04:37:28,044
We might not call
"Blue Velvet" horror,

5850
04:37:28,067 --> 04:37:30,113
but I do know it was
covered in Fangoria.

5851
04:37:30,136 --> 04:37:31,906
David Lynch is bouncing
in and out of horror

5852
04:37:31,931 --> 04:37:33,388
throughout all of his films,

5853
04:37:33,413 --> 04:37:35,182
and I think horror fans,

5854
04:37:35,205 --> 04:37:36,596
our antenna perked up.

5855
04:37:36,619 --> 04:37:39,009
It delivers horror
probably more effectively

5856
04:37:39,033 --> 04:37:41,596
than half the movies sitting
in the horror section

5857
04:37:41,619 --> 04:37:42,688
at the video store.

5858
04:37:44,688 --> 04:37:45,906
The severed ear moment.

5859
04:37:45,931 --> 04:37:47,044
The camera moves in.

5860
04:37:47,067 --> 04:37:47,976
There's ants on it.

5861
04:37:48,001 --> 04:37:49,906
It's incredibly graphic.

5862
04:37:49,931 --> 04:37:51,481
That's a pure horror moment.

5863
04:37:53,965 --> 04:37:55,665
Don't you fucking look at me!

5864
04:37:55,688 --> 04:37:58,492
Frank Booth is one of
the great horror villains.

5865
04:37:58,516 --> 04:38:01,457
He was terrifying, because
he was unpredictable.

5866
04:38:01,481 --> 04:38:04,113
He was a madman,
and it felt unsafe

5867
04:38:04,136 --> 04:38:06,354
in a way that by, say, 1986,

5868
04:38:06,379 --> 04:38:08,136
a lot of our movie
slashers didn't.

5869
04:38:09,344 --> 04:38:11,457
Does horror even
need to be scary?

5870
04:38:11,481 --> 04:38:13,734
It just has to disturb
you in some kind of way.

5871
04:38:13,758 --> 04:38:14,975
What's cool about the 1980s

5872
04:38:15,000 --> 04:38:17,286
is horror was so
big, that it actually

5873
04:38:17,310 --> 04:38:19,516
infiltrated other genres.

5874
04:38:20,448 --> 04:38:22,871
Ow!

5875
04:38:22,896 --> 04:38:24,217
I'm glad to see
you finally made it

5876
04:38:24,241 --> 04:38:25,906
to the suburbs, bitch!

5877
04:38:25,931 --> 04:38:28,388
My first horror
film, "Return to Oz".

5878
04:38:28,413 --> 04:38:30,562
It's like mombie
taking her heads off,

5879
04:38:30,585 --> 04:38:32,000
screaming, the wheelers.

5880
04:38:34,205 --> 04:38:35,423
Come here!

5881
04:38:35,448 --> 04:38:37,319
It can be a character,

5882
04:38:37,344 --> 04:38:39,665
like one person in that
film brings the horror.

5883
04:38:39,688 --> 04:38:41,654
The judge in "Roger
Rabbit", right?

5884
04:38:42,585 --> 04:38:44,079
When I killed your brother,

5885
04:38:44,102 --> 04:38:46,102
I talked just like this!

5886
04:38:49,067 --> 04:38:51,182
"Indiana Jones and
the Temple of Doom",

5887
04:38:51,205 --> 04:38:55,286
looking as a human hand
plunged into the chest

5888
04:38:55,310 --> 04:38:58,113
of a sacrificial victim,
and the beating heart

5889
04:38:58,136 --> 04:38:59,354
was ripped out.

5890
04:38:59,379 --> 04:39:02,906
This horrifying
ritual really held

5891
04:39:02,931 --> 04:39:04,550
all the elements of horror.

5892
04:39:09,344 --> 04:39:11,113
A movie that scared
the crap out of me

5893
04:39:11,136 --> 04:39:13,793
when I was little was "The Wiz".

5894
04:39:18,688 --> 04:39:20,837
My favorite movie of all
time was "Wizard of Oz",

5895
04:39:20,862 --> 04:39:22,251
which is also pretty scary.

5896
04:39:22,275 --> 04:39:23,286
You know, you get to
those winged monkeys,

5897
04:39:23,310 --> 04:39:25,033
and it's like, terror.

5898
04:39:27,758 --> 04:39:28,665
Help, help!

5899
04:39:28,688 --> 04:39:29,688
Help!

5900
04:39:30,862 --> 04:39:33,148
"The Dark Crystal",
"The Black Cauldron",

5901
04:39:33,171 --> 04:39:35,286
like animation, horror.

5902
04:39:35,310 --> 04:39:36,734
The field.

5903
04:39:36,758 --> 04:39:38,758
It's covered with blood.

5904
04:39:42,862 --> 04:39:44,906
These movies have
elements of horror,

5905
04:39:44,931 --> 04:39:46,413
and that's what we grew up on.

5906
04:39:48,585 --> 04:39:51,700
The psyche can do crazy
things to you, as well.

5907
04:39:51,723 --> 04:39:53,148
Your thoughts can
turn dark on you,

5908
04:39:53,171 --> 04:39:55,526
and that's also scary,
and a person that you know

5909
04:39:55,550 --> 04:39:57,837
can change on you,
and that's scary.

5910
04:39:57,862 --> 04:39:59,251
Aging is scary.

5911
04:39:59,275 --> 04:40:00,734
Dreams are scary.

5912
04:40:00,758 --> 04:40:01,632
The dark is scary.

5913
04:40:01,655 --> 04:40:03,388
There's dark everyday.

5914
04:40:03,413 --> 04:40:06,182
It's gonna get dark everyday.

5915
04:40:06,205 --> 04:40:07,585
It's gonna get scary.

5916
04:40:08,654 --> 04:40:09,458
Wait!

5917
04:40:09,483 --> 04:40:10,492
Ow!

5918
04:40:10,516 --> 04:40:14,769
Get away!

5919
04:40:14,793 --> 04:40:16,000
Horror is everywhere.

5920
04:40:17,102 --> 04:40:18,102
It's everywhere.

5921
04:40:30,688 --> 04:40:33,940
"Things" a horrifying sensation

5922
04:40:33,965 --> 04:40:36,837
that'll rip apart your soul.

5923
04:40:36,862 --> 04:40:39,700
A lot of people know
that Canadian horror movies

5924
04:40:39,723 --> 04:40:41,700
are Canadian just because
they're in English,

5925
04:40:41,723 --> 04:40:44,148
so they get lumped in
with American ones,

5926
04:40:44,171 --> 04:40:45,354
but don't be fooled.

5927
04:40:45,379 --> 04:40:46,837
Just because Canadians
have a reputation

5928
04:40:46,862 --> 04:40:49,079
for being polite doesn't
mean our horror movies are.

5929
04:40:49,102 --> 04:40:51,457
Canada actually made a
lot of slasher movies

5930
04:40:51,481 --> 04:40:52,906
in the 80s, which
is appropriate,

5931
04:40:52,931 --> 04:40:54,354
because we helped
start the genre

5932
04:40:54,379 --> 04:40:57,136
with the original "Black
Christmas" back in the 70s.

5933
04:40:58,688 --> 04:41:00,481
Why should America
have all the fun?

5934
04:41:01,654 --> 04:41:03,837
In addition to all those
great slasher movies,

5935
04:41:03,862 --> 04:41:06,802
Canada was also responsible
for making this movie

5936
04:41:06,827 --> 04:41:08,906
called "Things",
which has been called

5937
04:41:08,931 --> 04:41:11,171
one of the worst
movies ever made.

5938
04:41:16,205 --> 04:41:17,492
Oh no!

5939
04:41:17,516 --> 04:41:18,837
What did I do?

5940
04:41:18,862 --> 04:41:21,423
These two idiots sit
around and drink beer

5941
04:41:21,448 --> 04:41:23,769
for a little bit, and
then all of a sudden,

5942
04:41:23,793 --> 04:41:26,793
these weird ant thingies
invade their home.

5943
04:41:30,033 --> 04:41:31,734
Oh my god!

5944
04:41:31,758 --> 04:41:32,758
Susan!

5945
04:41:33,619 --> 04:41:35,700
It's not a horror comedy,

5946
04:41:35,723 --> 04:41:37,975
but I'd be hard pressed
to find something funnier,

5947
04:41:38,000 --> 04:41:39,862
because it's fucking terrible.

5948
04:41:46,516 --> 04:41:49,975
The whole thing has a very
home movie quality to it.

5949
04:41:50,000 --> 04:41:52,354
Everything looks homemade,
like the little ants

5950
04:41:52,379 --> 04:41:54,596
looks like they're made
out of paper mache,

5951
04:41:54,619 --> 04:41:56,906
the blood looks like
they mixed food coloring

5952
04:41:56,931 --> 04:41:58,148
and corn syrup.

5953
04:41:58,171 --> 04:42:00,665
Mm, that's human
blood, all right.

5954
04:42:00,688 --> 04:42:03,286
"Things" might just
be the most Canadian

5955
04:42:03,310 --> 04:42:05,148
movie ever made, and
I don't just mean

5956
04:42:05,171 --> 04:42:06,906
most Canadian horror movie,

5957
04:42:06,931 --> 04:42:10,423
I mean the most
Canadian movie, period.

5958
04:42:10,448 --> 04:42:11,448
Oh thanks, man.

5959
04:42:12,205 --> 04:42:13,388
You can practically smell

5960
04:42:13,413 --> 04:42:15,354
the half empty Molson bottles,

5961
04:42:15,379 --> 04:42:17,562
watching this movie.

5962
04:42:17,585 --> 04:42:21,182
Blood is just dripping
like maple syrup!

5963
04:42:21,205 --> 04:42:22,734
The big selling
point for "Things"

5964
04:42:22,758 --> 04:42:25,596
is that Ginger Lynn is in
it, the famous porn star.

5965
04:42:25,619 --> 04:42:27,286
But when you see the
movie, she's not doing

5966
04:42:27,310 --> 04:42:29,319
anything porn related.

5967
04:42:29,344 --> 04:42:31,492
She's like a newscaster
for, I don't know,

5968
04:42:31,516 --> 04:42:33,423
30 seconds at the
beginning of the movie.

5969
04:42:33,448 --> 04:42:34,975
They probably took
whatever budget they had

5970
04:42:35,000 --> 04:42:36,734
and gave her half of it,

5971
04:42:36,758 --> 04:42:38,550
so what, two grand maybe.

5972
04:42:40,585 --> 04:42:42,734
At the end of the
movie, they start killing

5973
04:42:42,758 --> 04:42:44,665
these weird ant things
with a chainsaw,

5974
04:42:44,688 --> 04:42:46,492
and spraying fake
blood everywhere.

5975
04:42:46,516 --> 04:42:47,802
I really hope the
guys who made it

5976
04:42:47,827 --> 04:42:49,906
got their damage deposit
back on the place

5977
04:42:49,931 --> 04:42:51,241
they were staying.

5978
04:42:53,275 --> 04:42:54,252
But now that everyone seems

5979
04:42:54,276 --> 04:42:56,354
to be talking about it again,

5980
04:42:56,379 --> 04:43:01,379
do I dare subject myself to
the ridiculosity of "Things"?

5981
04:43:02,550 --> 04:43:04,241
I'll be okay!

5982
04:43:14,136 --> 04:43:16,769
The situation in
Venice is now critical.

5983
04:43:16,793 --> 04:43:19,286
A giant toxic cloud has
settled over the city,

5984
04:43:19,310 --> 04:43:21,562
and is slowly destroying
every form of life.

5985
04:43:21,585 --> 04:43:23,769
I'm in an infamous movie

5986
04:43:23,793 --> 04:43:25,700
that has several
different titles.

5987
04:43:25,723 --> 04:43:28,009
"Shocking Dark",
AKA "Terminator",

5988
04:43:28,033 --> 04:43:29,585
or da-da-da-da-da.

5989
04:43:31,000 --> 04:43:34,354
The movie originally was
called "Shocking Magenta".

5990
04:43:34,379 --> 04:43:35,596
How are you gonna
translate that?

5991
04:43:35,619 --> 04:43:37,113
That doesn't work
in any language.

5992
04:43:37,136 --> 04:43:38,217
That's not the only name

5993
04:43:38,241 --> 04:43:39,769
it's called "Contaminator".

5994
04:43:39,793 --> 04:43:42,217
"The Killers of Venice Beach".

5995
04:43:42,241 --> 04:43:44,631
It has lots of names,
and that has something

5996
04:43:44,654 --> 04:43:45,940
to do with distribution.

5997
04:43:45,965 --> 04:43:48,975
Venice before the year 2000.

5998
04:43:49,000 --> 04:43:51,596
"Shocking Dark" is a
movie where the filmmakers

5999
04:43:51,619 --> 04:43:55,009
attempt to warn
people of the hazards

6000
04:43:55,033 --> 04:43:57,182
of industrial pollution.

6001
04:43:57,205 --> 04:43:59,931
Fear fighting
against the unknown.

6002
04:44:00,862 --> 04:44:02,009
Hurry!

6003
04:44:02,033 --> 04:44:04,009
They're coming, they're coming!

6004
04:44:04,033 --> 04:44:06,251
My character in "Shocking Dark"

6005
04:44:06,275 --> 04:44:07,975
is Lieutenant Koster,

6006
04:44:08,000 --> 04:44:11,148
and I'm telling all
these guys what to do.

6007
04:44:11,171 --> 04:44:13,217
All right, you bunch of pussies!

6008
04:44:13,241 --> 04:44:16,217
I'm back, and I'm kicking ass!

6009
04:44:16,241 --> 04:44:18,734
And I'm not politically
correct about it,

6010
04:44:18,758 --> 04:44:21,009
and I don't care,
but it's because

6011
04:44:21,033 --> 04:44:22,457
they're my guys.

6012
04:44:22,481 --> 04:44:23,389
Careful, baby.

6013
04:44:23,414 --> 04:44:24,871
That thing just might go off!

6014
04:44:24,896 --> 04:44:27,354
They're sending us into
the depths of Venice.

6015
04:44:27,379 --> 04:44:30,009
My impression is
they're gonna find out

6016
04:44:30,033 --> 04:44:33,148
it's a creature
from another planet.

6017
04:44:33,171 --> 04:44:35,631
I can't say that
was exactly the plot

6018
04:44:35,654 --> 04:44:37,862
when I started the movie.

6019
04:44:38,827 --> 04:44:40,448
And they're waiting for you!

6020
04:44:42,723 --> 04:44:43,632
Who are they?

6021
04:44:43,655 --> 04:44:44,837
What are you talking about?

6022
04:44:44,862 --> 04:44:46,906
It's a sandwich
that didn't even have

6023
04:44:46,931 --> 04:44:48,044
a whole loaf of bread.

6024
04:44:48,067 --> 04:44:50,251
So it starts out pumpernickel,

6025
04:44:50,275 --> 04:44:52,251
and then it ends up a brioche,

6026
04:44:52,275 --> 04:44:54,286
and then it's a slice of pizza.

6027
04:44:54,310 --> 04:44:56,793
Can't you smell
that stink of shit?

6028
04:44:59,688 --> 04:45:00,906
The creatures in
"Shocking Dark".

6029
04:45:00,931 --> 04:45:03,354
I have been told
they remind people

6030
04:45:03,379 --> 04:45:05,319
of the creature from "Alien",

6031
04:45:05,344 --> 04:45:07,079
but when I was in the movie,

6032
04:45:07,102 --> 04:45:08,562
and as the movie was told to me,

6033
04:45:08,585 --> 04:45:10,319
by the director, Bruno Mattei,

6034
04:45:10,344 --> 04:45:12,354
he intended it to be more

6035
04:45:12,379 --> 04:45:14,654
of "The Creature From
the Black Lagoon".

6036
04:45:18,516 --> 04:45:20,769
We're chemically dumping in
the waters around Venice,

6037
04:45:20,793 --> 04:45:24,596
so originally the
concept was this thing,

6038
04:45:24,619 --> 04:45:25,975
maybe it got radiated,

6039
04:45:26,000 --> 04:45:28,171
because that's what they
were kind of thinking.

6040
04:45:29,516 --> 04:45:31,275
Something wraps around my neck.

6041
04:45:34,827 --> 04:45:36,079
Go back and watch carefully.

6042
04:45:36,102 --> 04:45:37,802
So this hand is going oh, oh,

6043
04:45:37,827 --> 04:45:39,906
and this hand from
below is wrapping around

6044
04:45:39,931 --> 04:45:42,319
my own neck, and
I'm going like that.

6045
04:45:42,344 --> 04:45:43,975
So every time
somebody says to me

6046
04:45:44,000 --> 04:45:46,492
it's a ripoff of "Alien"
and "Terminator",

6047
04:45:46,516 --> 04:45:48,906
I go not if you're
holding the rubber mask

6048
04:45:48,931 --> 04:45:50,379
with your own hand

6049
04:45:54,413 --> 04:45:56,113
"Shocking Dark" is
such a shameless ripoff

6050
04:45:56,136 --> 04:45:57,940
of so many other things
that it was legally not

6051
04:45:57,965 --> 04:46:00,688
able to be released in
the States for many years.

6052
04:46:03,688 --> 04:46:05,562
This is the end of the line.

6053
04:46:05,585 --> 04:46:07,009
You look at movies by guys

6054
04:46:07,033 --> 04:46:08,286
like Bruno Mattei,
and you think it was

6055
04:46:08,310 --> 04:46:10,700
probably a pretty
good party onset.

6056
04:46:10,723 --> 04:46:12,388
End of the line.

6057
04:46:12,413 --> 04:46:13,700
Maybe as long as the
filmmakers are having

6058
04:46:13,723 --> 04:46:15,148
a great time, you
hope it bleeds through

6059
04:46:15,171 --> 04:46:16,688
to the screen.

6060
04:46:22,413 --> 04:46:25,871
Bruno Mattei was by
no means kidding himself

6061
04:46:25,896 --> 04:46:28,388
of where he was in
the film industry.

6062
04:46:28,413 --> 04:46:30,275
And he's in on the joke.

6063
04:46:36,344 --> 04:46:38,319
I worked on two movies with him,

6064
04:46:38,344 --> 04:46:40,526
and he was always
up against a budget,

6065
04:46:40,550 --> 04:46:42,388
and he never took it badly,

6066
04:46:42,413 --> 04:46:44,631
he was never in a bad mood,

6067
04:46:44,654 --> 04:46:46,044
and he was a lot of fun.

6068
04:46:46,067 --> 04:46:46,907
I miss him.

6069
04:46:46,932 --> 04:46:48,205
I miss him a great deal.

6070
04:46:54,102 --> 04:46:57,769
A new film
by Alejandro Jodorowsky.

6071
04:46:57,793 --> 04:46:59,310
"Santa Sangre".

6072
04:47:01,448 --> 04:47:05,354
"Santa Sangre" is a
Felini-esque kind of nightmare

6073
04:47:05,379 --> 04:47:09,286
from the perverted mind
of Alejandro Jodorowsky.

6074
04:47:09,310 --> 04:47:12,079
It's just saturated with blood,

6075
04:47:12,102 --> 04:47:16,700
circus carnage, crazy
cults, skin, surrealism,

6076
04:47:16,723 --> 04:47:19,000
and enough symbolism to
send you to a shrink.

6077
04:47:24,723 --> 04:47:26,009
Now you're a man.

6078
04:47:26,033 --> 04:47:28,940
It is an absolute masterpiece.

6079
04:47:28,965 --> 04:47:32,665
Jodorowsky, he was approached
by Dario Argento's brother,

6080
04:47:32,688 --> 04:47:34,700
Claudio, to make a movie.

6081
04:47:34,723 --> 04:47:36,596
It was essentially,
I need you to make

6082
04:47:36,619 --> 04:47:39,665
a Dario Argento movie, but
by Alejandro Jodorowsky.

6083
04:47:39,688 --> 04:47:42,802
Well, he ended up
taking it way further

6084
04:47:42,827 --> 04:47:43,975
into the direction
of Jodorowsky,

6085
04:47:44,000 --> 04:47:46,241
and making something
entirely unique.

6086
04:47:48,344 --> 04:47:50,665
Sure, it's painted
in a horror movie,

6087
04:47:50,688 --> 04:47:52,354
but it's a coming of age story

6088
04:47:52,379 --> 04:47:56,275
about a boy growing up in
a circus freak setting,

6089
04:47:57,481 --> 04:47:59,700
that really shows the
streets of Mexico City

6090
04:47:59,723 --> 04:48:01,217
in a different light.

6091
04:48:01,241 --> 04:48:03,113
There's something so special
about all these characters,

6092
04:48:03,136 --> 04:48:05,562
being in makeup, being
in their costumes,

6093
04:48:05,585 --> 04:48:08,182
and that's how they are
every day of their lives,

6094
04:48:08,205 --> 04:48:10,492
and actually also
something very sad

6095
04:48:10,516 --> 04:48:11,965
about that, too.

6096
04:48:18,310 --> 04:48:20,217
That that is the identity
of these characters.

6097
04:48:20,241 --> 04:48:22,871
That is the way that
people see them as,

6098
04:48:22,896 --> 04:48:26,654
as clowns, as
performers, as freaks.

6099
04:48:28,481 --> 04:48:30,113
It just shows such a truth,

6100
04:48:30,136 --> 04:48:32,492
not just in Mexico,
but it shows a truth

6101
04:48:32,516 --> 04:48:34,481
of how easy we are judgmental.

6102
04:48:36,862 --> 04:48:38,906
There's so many
scenes in that film

6103
04:48:38,931 --> 04:48:41,148
I did not expect to
continue to escalate,

6104
04:48:41,171 --> 04:48:42,837
to go oh my god!

6105
04:48:42,862 --> 04:48:43,666
Oh my god!

6106
04:48:43,689 --> 04:48:45,241
Ugh!

6107
04:48:46,481 --> 04:48:48,217
The dad, the owner
of this circus,

6108
04:48:48,241 --> 04:48:50,975
just has an affair,
spoiler alert,

6109
04:48:51,000 --> 04:48:53,113
cuts this woman's arms off,

6110
04:48:53,136 --> 04:48:54,769
and it's like what the!

6111
04:48:54,793 --> 04:48:56,758
It's insane!

6112
04:48:58,758 --> 04:49:00,492
The wonderful
character of Conchita,

6113
04:49:00,516 --> 04:49:02,217
and you just see how her arms

6114
04:49:02,241 --> 04:49:03,734
get completely cut off,

6115
04:49:03,758 --> 04:49:05,526
blood pouring out of her arms,

6116
04:49:05,550 --> 04:49:08,413
and how she's just
looking at the sky, at us.

6117
04:49:10,550 --> 04:49:12,044
The one-two punch
of attacking them

6118
04:49:12,067 --> 04:49:14,148
during sex and
throwing acid on them,

6119
04:49:14,171 --> 04:49:16,975
and then getting both
of her arms chopped off,

6120
04:49:17,000 --> 04:49:19,182
with beautiful
Simon Boswell music

6121
04:49:19,205 --> 04:49:20,149
playing in the background.

6122
04:49:20,172 --> 04:49:22,319
That's hard to equal in cinema,

6123
04:49:22,344 --> 04:49:24,033
let alone in this movie.

6124
04:49:28,965 --> 04:49:29,975
And from that point on,

6125
04:49:30,000 --> 04:49:32,526
to see our main character

6126
04:49:32,550 --> 04:49:36,423
trying to find acceptance,
love, and freedom

6127
04:49:36,448 --> 04:49:40,319
of his own demons,
how he now is trapped

6128
04:49:40,344 --> 04:49:42,596
to be his own mother's arms,

6129
04:49:42,619 --> 04:49:44,871
speaks to such a sadness,

6130
04:49:44,896 --> 04:49:47,079
and such a truth
of manipulation.

6131
04:49:47,102 --> 04:49:49,448
It just completely
breaks my heart,

6132
04:49:50,413 --> 04:49:52,275
and grosses me out

6133
04:49:56,862 --> 04:49:58,388
"Santa Sangre" was
not afraid to talk

6134
04:49:58,413 --> 04:50:00,700
about the problems of machismo,

6135
04:50:00,723 --> 04:50:04,734
the class system, and just
the difference in cultures

6136
04:50:04,758 --> 04:50:06,940
with the Americanos
and the Mexicans,

6137
04:50:06,965 --> 04:50:08,148
and all from the point of view

6138
04:50:08,171 --> 04:50:09,423
of an innocent child.

6139
04:50:09,448 --> 04:50:11,631
That corruption,
that manipulation,

6140
04:50:11,654 --> 04:50:14,700
how sex and violence can
really, really change

6141
04:50:14,723 --> 04:50:18,379
a child's life, that
movie is true horror.

6142
04:50:36,793 --> 04:50:38,631
For "Fright Night",
I had no sense

6143
04:50:38,654 --> 04:50:40,217
of what is was going to become.

6144
04:50:40,241 --> 04:50:42,631
I thought it was a fun movie,

6145
04:50:42,654 --> 04:50:43,940
it was creative,
and it was gonna be

6146
04:50:43,965 --> 04:50:46,423
a little bitty horror
movie for that summer.

6147
04:50:46,448 --> 04:50:49,837
Really special experience, and
the longer I'm away from it,

6148
04:50:49,862 --> 04:50:52,379
the more I realize that.

6149
04:50:53,619 --> 04:50:54,837
"Fright Night 2".

6150
04:50:54,862 --> 04:50:56,275
♪ Take me baby

6151
04:50:59,000 --> 04:51:00,802
"Fright Night 2",
Tommy Lee Wallace

6152
04:51:00,827 --> 04:51:02,182
did a terrific job.

6153
04:51:02,205 --> 04:51:03,631
I wasn't available.

6154
04:51:03,654 --> 04:51:06,596
Instead I did "Fatal Beauty"
with Whoopi Goldberg.

6155
04:51:06,619 --> 04:51:08,550
I should have done
"Fright Night 2".

6156
04:51:10,136 --> 04:51:11,802
Johnny.

6157
04:51:11,827 --> 04:51:13,354
Peter.

6158
04:51:13,379 --> 04:51:14,413
It's happening again.

6159
04:51:16,067 --> 04:51:19,113
"Fright Night 2" was
really more about the modern

6160
04:51:19,136 --> 04:51:20,975
80s age, when people
were really starting

6161
04:51:21,000 --> 04:51:25,665
to experiment and to be curious
about cultures and people.

6162
04:51:25,688 --> 04:51:29,379
I give you the new host
of Fright Night, Regine!

6163
04:51:31,793 --> 04:51:33,286
From Regine's point of view,

6164
04:51:33,310 --> 04:51:37,067
my only brother, the love
of my life, was murdered.

6165
04:51:40,136 --> 04:51:42,550
And I am 2000 years old.

6166
04:51:43,413 --> 04:51:44,413
Uh, come in.

6167
04:51:45,136 --> 04:51:46,044
Thanks.

6168
04:51:46,068 --> 04:51:48,769
I find Charlie Brewster,

6169
04:51:48,793 --> 04:51:52,585
and I play with him like a
cat playing with a mouse.

6170
04:51:54,000 --> 04:51:58,286
Julie as Regine was breaking
the glass ceiling in a way.

6171
04:51:58,310 --> 04:51:59,413
This is not a dream.

6172
04:52:01,862 --> 04:52:05,631
"Fright Night Part 2"
is a lot about inverting

6173
04:52:05,654 --> 04:52:08,940
the sexual and
gender stereotypes

6174
04:52:08,965 --> 04:52:12,802
that had traditionally been
part of the vampire genre.

6175
04:52:12,827 --> 04:52:15,492
She was taking ownership
of lust and power

6176
04:52:15,516 --> 04:52:18,871
and hunger and
all of that stuff,

6177
04:52:18,896 --> 04:52:20,758
and she feminized it.

6178
04:52:25,241 --> 04:52:29,769
I think Regine is empowering
for women in general,

6179
04:52:29,793 --> 04:52:31,837
and for Latinas.

6180
04:52:31,862 --> 04:52:36,862
There's an eroticism that is
beyond gender identification.

6181
04:52:38,275 --> 04:52:42,585
Regine Dandridge, it was very
open to love and sensuality.

6182
04:52:47,793 --> 04:52:52,009
She's not just a stark,
startling character.

6183
04:52:52,033 --> 04:52:56,379
She's cushy, and
warm, and you know.

6184
04:52:58,033 --> 04:53:00,310
Is it hot in here?

6185
04:53:04,205 --> 04:53:06,079
You'll have to get
closer than that.

6186
04:53:06,102 --> 04:53:10,286
Peter Vincent was Roddy
McDowall's love letter

6187
04:53:10,310 --> 04:53:13,596
to the vampire
hunters of the past.

6188
04:53:13,619 --> 04:53:15,550
Peter Cushing, Vincent Price.

6189
04:53:17,379 --> 04:53:18,734
Roddy was a photographer,

6190
04:53:18,758 --> 04:53:20,769
so he was always
taking pictures.

6191
04:53:20,793 --> 04:53:23,354
He was into documenting stuff.

6192
04:53:23,379 --> 04:53:27,148
Encyclopedia of movie history.

6193
04:53:27,171 --> 04:53:29,975
He knew where the
bodies were buried.

6194
04:53:30,000 --> 04:53:34,079
I kill vampires.

6195
04:53:34,102 --> 04:53:35,492
It was a different movie,

6196
04:53:35,516 --> 04:53:37,802
it was like an army
of ghouls and vampires

6197
04:53:37,827 --> 04:53:40,931
and creatures that we
were up against this time.

6198
04:53:42,688 --> 04:53:44,975
Russel Clark played Belle,

6199
04:53:45,000 --> 04:53:47,344
a wraith-like vampire
on roller skates.

6200
04:53:49,241 --> 04:53:52,044
Those three characters,
Jonathan Gries,

6201
04:53:52,067 --> 04:53:54,286
Brian Thompson, and Russel,

6202
04:53:54,310 --> 04:53:57,562
they're all so
distinctive and unique

6203
04:53:57,585 --> 04:54:00,413
in the characters that
they came up with.

6204
04:54:02,585 --> 04:54:05,448
I have an entourage
of fabulous men.

6205
04:54:08,516 --> 04:54:11,769
Russel Clarke, he had
choreographed Michael Jackson,

6206
04:54:11,793 --> 04:54:15,148
and Brian Thompson
came up with the naming

6207
04:54:15,171 --> 04:54:19,241
all of these bugs with
their Latin names.

6208
04:54:26,000 --> 04:54:29,448
There's just a scholarliness
to this foursome.

6209
04:54:31,171 --> 04:54:33,000
Are you thirsty, Charlie?

6210
04:54:34,448 --> 04:54:37,526
Once I started
transitioning into a vampire,

6211
04:54:37,550 --> 04:54:39,457
I enjoyed getting to fang up

6212
04:54:39,481 --> 04:54:42,113
and get pasty, and
all that stuff.

6213
04:54:42,136 --> 04:54:44,113
I had my Christmas
cards that year

6214
04:54:44,136 --> 04:54:49,136
were me in a vampire, sort
of holiday vampire theme.

6215
04:54:50,793 --> 04:54:52,906
"Fright Night 2"
resonates with people,

6216
04:54:52,931 --> 04:54:54,286
there's something
for everyone in it.

6217
04:54:54,310 --> 04:54:56,871
And everyone's kind of
represented, especially today.

6218
04:54:56,896 --> 04:54:59,275
You notice if someone's
not represented now.

6219
04:55:00,413 --> 04:55:02,700
It shocked people that somebody

6220
04:55:02,723 --> 04:55:05,182
would break the rules
as much as we did,

6221
04:55:05,205 --> 04:55:08,286
even though it made more
money at the box office

6222
04:55:08,310 --> 04:55:11,182
than anything else that
opened that weekend,

6223
04:55:11,205 --> 04:55:14,148
I think the whole distribution
went into a tailspin,

6224
04:55:14,171 --> 04:55:17,079
and then you could
hardly find it on VHS,

6225
04:55:17,102 --> 04:55:19,009
but people have unearthed it,

6226
04:55:19,033 --> 04:55:20,769
literally dug it
up from the grave,

6227
04:55:20,793 --> 04:55:22,631
so I'm very grateful
to the people

6228
04:55:22,654 --> 04:55:25,481
who've done that, because
Regine was really fun.

6229
04:55:26,413 --> 04:55:28,448
Welcome to Fright Night.

6230
04:55:34,241 --> 04:55:35,871
I have such a specific memory

6231
04:55:35,896 --> 04:55:39,906
of begging my dad to take
me to see "Relentless"

6232
04:55:39,931 --> 04:55:41,354
when I was too young to see it.

6233
04:55:41,379 --> 04:55:42,631
I was probably 12.

6234
04:55:42,654 --> 04:55:45,251
Judd Nelson is Buck Taylor.

6235
04:55:45,275 --> 04:55:48,136
And Buck Taylor is "Relentless".

6236
04:55:49,827 --> 04:55:52,734
This was a Hollywood
maniac slasher,

6237
04:55:52,758 --> 04:55:55,000
so it was a well-produced film.

6238
04:56:00,896 --> 04:56:04,009
Cops chasing a serial
killer in Los Angeles.

6239
04:56:04,033 --> 04:56:05,734
Well, who the fuck killed him?

6240
04:56:05,758 --> 04:56:06,562
Well how the fuck do I know?

6241
04:56:06,585 --> 04:56:07,562
It's my first day.

6242
04:56:07,586 --> 04:56:09,596
Judd Nelson is the product

6243
04:56:09,619 --> 04:56:12,631
of an abusive relationship
with his father,

6244
04:56:12,654 --> 04:56:17,596
who was a police officer, who
he both feared and idolized,

6245
04:56:17,619 --> 04:56:20,286
when he couldn't live
up to his father's ideal

6246
04:56:20,310 --> 04:56:22,388
to also become a police officer,

6247
04:56:22,413 --> 04:56:26,079
he decides he's going to
go out and kill people

6248
04:56:26,102 --> 04:56:27,827
with his father's name.

6249
04:56:30,344 --> 04:56:32,906
Leo Rossi and Robert Loggia,

6250
04:56:32,931 --> 04:56:34,700
they are investigating it.

6251
04:56:34,723 --> 04:56:35,975
Read this.

6252
04:56:36,000 --> 04:56:37,562
No clues, no nothing.

6253
04:56:37,585 --> 04:56:38,975
What is it?

6254
04:56:39,000 --> 04:56:40,388
The asshole left it.

6255
04:56:40,413 --> 04:56:42,492
John had seen "Maniac",
and really liked it,

6256
04:56:42,516 --> 04:56:45,310
and came aboard wanting
to play the role.

6257
04:56:47,654 --> 04:56:49,319
For me stylistically,

6258
04:56:49,344 --> 04:56:53,344
it was my Dario Argento
film in daylight.

6259
04:56:55,827 --> 04:56:57,837
What really messed me
up too with that film

6260
04:56:57,862 --> 04:56:59,148
is there's a pretty brutal

6261
04:56:59,171 --> 04:57:02,550
piano wire
strangulation sequence.

6262
04:57:06,033 --> 04:57:08,457
It was intense for
me to watch as a kid.

6263
04:57:08,481 --> 04:57:09,481
Isn't that better?

6264
04:57:11,205 --> 04:57:13,148
I like the scene
where Judd is running

6265
04:57:13,171 --> 04:57:14,182
on the rooftop.

6266
04:57:14,205 --> 04:57:15,319
We did a little trick there.

6267
04:57:15,344 --> 04:57:16,871
We used a Louma crane,

6268
04:57:16,896 --> 04:57:18,423
and when he's
hidden, the stunt guy

6269
04:57:18,448 --> 04:57:19,871
comes out the other end,

6270
04:57:19,896 --> 04:57:23,000
and we tried to make it
as seamless as possible.

6271
04:57:24,241 --> 04:57:27,423
There was a moment that
was cut from the script

6272
04:57:27,448 --> 04:57:29,837
that I really wish I had shot.

6273
04:57:29,862 --> 04:57:33,251
The scene that I had stolen
from a Japanese movie

6274
04:57:33,275 --> 04:57:35,319
called "Vengeance is Mine".

6275
04:57:35,344 --> 04:57:38,217
Coming down the street
was a patrol car,

6276
04:57:38,241 --> 04:57:40,044
and Judd looks
down at his hands,

6277
04:57:40,067 --> 04:57:41,526
and there's blood on his hands,

6278
04:57:41,550 --> 04:57:44,388
so he goes in the bushes,
and pees on his hands

6279
04:57:44,413 --> 04:57:46,033
to wash the blood off of them.

6280
04:57:47,862 --> 04:57:49,044
And I thought, wow.

6281
04:57:49,067 --> 04:57:51,217
That would really say a
lot about a character.

6282
04:57:51,241 --> 04:57:52,457
It might have been
a bit too much

6283
04:57:52,481 --> 04:57:54,241
for mainstream audience.

6284
04:57:58,000 --> 04:57:59,871
It's all right.

6285
04:57:59,896 --> 04:58:01,802
I had a great time
with Judd Nelson.

6286
04:58:01,827 --> 04:58:03,354
Always joking around.

6287
04:58:03,379 --> 04:58:05,631
All the actors, all sweethearts.

6288
04:58:05,654 --> 04:58:08,079
It was a wonderful
experience on that film.

6289
04:58:08,102 --> 04:58:09,562
Yo brothers, what's up?

6290
04:58:09,585 --> 04:58:10,975
I had no interference.

6291
04:58:11,000 --> 04:58:13,319
Everything that's in
"Relentless" is mine,

6292
04:58:13,344 --> 04:58:14,975
for better or worse,
it was the way

6293
04:58:15,000 --> 04:58:17,148
I made the film, and
I'm quite proud of it.

6294
04:58:17,171 --> 04:58:18,596
I think it came out okay.

6295
04:58:18,619 --> 04:58:19,619
Please.

6296
04:58:20,827 --> 04:58:21,827
Don't hurt my son.

6297
04:58:23,723 --> 04:58:25,148
But it feels dated to me.

6298
04:58:25,171 --> 04:58:28,319
First is "Maniac Cop",
which was made before that

6299
04:58:28,344 --> 04:58:30,009
doesn't feel dated to me.

6300
04:58:30,033 --> 04:58:31,413
Go figure.

6301
04:58:32,413 --> 04:58:33,413
Oh my god!

6302
04:58:43,654 --> 04:58:45,344
William Hickey as

6303
04:58:46,965 --> 04:58:48,734
"The Puppet Master".

6304
04:58:48,758 --> 04:58:52,837
One of my favorite franchises
is "The Puppet Master".

6305
04:58:52,862 --> 04:58:55,423
And the first one was
just so perfect to me.

6306
04:58:55,448 --> 04:58:57,457
And now they have 80 of them.

6307
04:58:57,481 --> 04:58:58,827
Every single one, I want.

6308
04:59:00,585 --> 04:59:03,631
It had Blade, Tunneler, Jester,

6309
04:59:03,654 --> 04:59:07,113
with his weird face
stuff, and Leech Girl,

6310
04:59:07,136 --> 04:59:10,654
and lots, and lots, and
lots of creepy ass puppets.

6311
04:59:12,033 --> 04:59:14,286
I have all those
puppets as action figures.

6312
04:59:14,310 --> 04:59:16,562
They're some of my favorite
collectibles to this day.

6313
04:59:16,585 --> 04:59:19,758
I just wanted to see the
puppets fucking kill people.

6314
04:59:24,688 --> 04:59:28,182
You pair that with just
this weird fucking story

6315
04:59:28,205 --> 04:59:31,802
about an undead dude who
just wanted to get his,

6316
04:59:31,827 --> 04:59:35,734
gets his rivals together to
kill them off one by one.

6317
04:59:35,758 --> 04:59:38,423
And using the old techniques
of the old Puppet Master,

6318
04:59:38,448 --> 04:59:40,871
I brought myself back to life.

6319
04:59:40,896 --> 04:59:41,804
Why?

6320
04:59:41,828 --> 04:59:43,802
I want to live forever.

6321
04:59:43,827 --> 04:59:46,516
That is a piece of art
that came to life as a movie.

6322
04:59:50,136 --> 04:59:51,871
Yeah, I'm a stop motion freak.

6323
04:59:51,896 --> 04:59:54,217
Dave Allen helped shape
shift those characters

6324
04:59:54,241 --> 04:59:56,700
into what they are
now, and gave them some

6325
04:59:56,723 --> 04:59:59,793
historical context, because
it takes place in the 40s.

6326
05:00:01,136 --> 05:00:04,009
And next thing you know,
we morph into a script,

6327
05:00:04,033 --> 05:00:06,723
and David Schmoeller did a
great job with the script.

6328
05:00:12,241 --> 05:00:14,975
Charlie Band, he would give
me a lot of creative freedom.

6329
05:00:15,000 --> 05:00:17,665
It's real easy to
write these things.

6330
05:00:17,688 --> 05:00:19,837
You hope that this
is gonna work.

6331
05:00:19,862 --> 05:00:21,354
It goes from effect to effect.

6332
05:00:21,379 --> 05:00:22,769
I mean, some of them work great,

6333
05:00:22,793 --> 05:00:25,619
and some of them are
really stretches, you know.

6334
05:00:30,344 --> 05:00:31,802
You fucker!

6335
05:00:31,827 --> 05:00:33,596
I thought I could create magic,

6336
05:00:33,619 --> 05:00:36,585
and these really great
things would happen.

6337
05:00:38,793 --> 05:00:40,319
These little dolls,
they would find

6338
05:00:40,344 --> 05:00:44,906
all these sadistic ways
to murder human beings.

6339
05:00:44,931 --> 05:00:48,700
It was diabolical.

6340
05:00:48,723 --> 05:00:51,526
Leech Woman, Lord
she looks so cute

6341
05:00:51,550 --> 05:00:53,631
and pretty but then

6342
05:00:53,654 --> 05:00:55,802
and this nasty ass leech,

6343
05:00:55,827 --> 05:00:57,793
and it's just, no, why?

6344
05:01:01,619 --> 05:01:03,550
We actually used leeches.

6345
05:01:06,033 --> 05:01:08,734
The puppet with the
tiniest little head,

6346
05:01:08,758 --> 05:01:13,000
and massive baby hands, just
beating the crap out of people.

6347
05:01:16,102 --> 05:01:18,871
You're taking inanimate objects

6348
05:01:18,896 --> 05:01:21,585
and turning them
into real things.

6349
05:01:28,758 --> 05:01:30,148
We would talk about
it, and he would go off

6350
05:01:30,171 --> 05:01:33,631
and execute whatever
I needed to have

6351
05:01:33,654 --> 05:01:35,457
these puppets doing.

6352
05:01:35,481 --> 05:01:37,113
There would always
be some surprise

6353
05:01:37,136 --> 05:01:40,113
that was better than
what we had talked about.

6354
05:01:40,136 --> 05:01:43,457
Low budget filmmaking
is an art in itself.

6355
05:01:43,481 --> 05:01:45,148
It's such a crapshoot.

6356
05:01:45,171 --> 05:01:46,734
What's happening, Alice?

6357
05:01:46,758 --> 05:01:49,388
You're making
movies for no money,

6358
05:01:49,413 --> 05:01:53,310
and then you're expecting
a studio to pick it up.

6359
05:01:56,896 --> 05:01:59,079
The fact that
Paramount released it

6360
05:01:59,102 --> 05:02:01,079
gave it a lot of cache.

6361
05:02:01,102 --> 05:02:04,009
Gave it a lot of credibility.

6362
05:02:04,033 --> 05:02:06,758
What the hell
are you looking at?

6363
05:02:10,067 --> 05:02:12,802
The original idea
of these characters

6364
05:02:12,827 --> 05:02:14,631
that all start off a
little differently,

6365
05:02:14,654 --> 05:02:17,619
helped my business, my
life, and my creativity.

6366
05:02:20,448 --> 05:02:22,148
We're about to shoot
our 13th Puppet Master

6367
05:02:22,171 --> 05:02:23,827
32 years later.

6368
05:02:29,896 --> 05:02:31,631
"The Black Cat".

6369
05:02:31,654 --> 05:02:33,965
The last word in terror.

6370
05:02:36,344 --> 05:02:38,871
"The Black Cat", Luigi Cozzi,

6371
05:02:38,896 --> 05:02:42,550
or Lewis Coates, as
he's known in America.

6372
05:02:43,758 --> 05:02:44,758
Black Cat, 1A, take one.

6373
05:02:45,688 --> 05:02:47,079
My lovely Luigi, who directed

6374
05:02:47,102 --> 05:02:50,700
and kind of created
"Stellar Star Star Crash".

6375
05:02:50,723 --> 05:02:51,940
It was his baby.

6376
05:02:51,965 --> 05:02:54,319
He wanted to do this
one for quite some time.

6377
05:02:54,344 --> 05:02:57,148
Well, we've already got
the storyline blocked out,

6378
05:02:57,171 --> 05:02:58,700
but before we get down to
writing the screenplay,

6379
05:02:58,723 --> 05:03:01,596
we'd like some pointers
about reincarnation.

6380
05:03:01,619 --> 05:03:03,700
I read the script, and I
thought yeah, it's interesting.

6381
05:03:03,723 --> 05:03:04,527
It's different.

6382
05:03:04,551 --> 05:03:06,044
Don't use that name.

6383
05:03:06,067 --> 05:03:07,319
Change it at once.

6384
05:03:07,344 --> 05:03:08,388
What name, Levana?

6385
05:03:08,413 --> 05:03:09,631
Yes.

6386
05:03:09,654 --> 05:03:11,205
Don't take the risk
of summoning her.

6387
05:03:12,379 --> 05:03:14,871
Dario Argento had a hand in it.

6388
05:03:14,896 --> 05:03:18,319
Dario Argento
directed it, "Suspiria",

6389
05:03:18,344 --> 05:03:20,837
and I must admit, it
was very, very good.

6390
05:03:20,862 --> 05:03:23,044
Luigi worked very
closely with Dario.

6391
05:03:23,067 --> 05:03:24,596
It was shot in Italy.

6392
05:03:24,619 --> 05:03:27,423
Not a lot of plot, but
beautiful to look at.

6393
05:03:27,448 --> 05:03:29,940
Great performances
from the actors.

6394
05:03:29,965 --> 05:03:31,182
They were all European.

6395
05:03:31,205 --> 05:03:33,665
I think I was the only
English person in it.

6396
05:03:33,688 --> 05:03:37,148
We had a wonderful prince
called Urbano Barberini

6397
05:03:37,171 --> 05:03:39,319
who was in it, and then
you had Florence Guerin,

6398
05:03:39,344 --> 05:03:41,182
who was wonderful in the film.

6399
05:03:41,205 --> 05:03:42,758
She was fantastic.

6400
05:03:46,654 --> 05:03:49,182
You can never leave!

6401
05:03:49,205 --> 05:03:51,286
You'll never be
Levana the witch!

6402
05:03:51,310 --> 05:03:52,492
Never, never!

6403
05:03:52,516 --> 05:03:56,000
She was an actress,
I was an actress.

6404
05:03:59,000 --> 05:03:59,941
Cut.

6405
05:03:59,966 --> 05:04:01,388
Florence was the nice one.

6406
05:04:01,413 --> 05:04:04,044
I was just a bitch, I would
say, really, basically.

6407
05:04:04,067 --> 05:04:05,286
Sorry.

6408
05:04:05,310 --> 05:04:06,723
So I have your
permission to, uh,

6409
05:04:08,448 --> 05:04:09,619
put it to him?

6410
05:04:12,136 --> 05:04:12,941
But it was good
character for me.

6411
05:04:12,966 --> 05:04:14,113
I liked it.

6412
05:04:14,136 --> 05:04:16,665
Quite dark, and she was
all out for herself.

6413
05:04:16,688 --> 05:04:19,423
Everything was
about her, really.

6414
05:04:19,448 --> 05:04:22,492
She was very jealous of
Florence and the husband.

6415
05:04:22,516 --> 05:04:24,275
Why in god's name did you do it?

6416
05:04:25,862 --> 05:04:28,526
The same reason I took
Mark away from you, Anne.

6417
05:04:28,550 --> 05:04:29,975
For Levana.

6418
05:04:30,000 --> 05:04:31,837
My character was capable
of anything, really.

6419
05:04:31,862 --> 05:04:33,631
I liked that concept.

6420
05:04:33,654 --> 05:04:34,837
What is your command?

6421
05:04:34,862 --> 05:04:36,688
I ordered you to stop Anne.

6422
05:04:37,654 --> 05:04:39,526
It rolled along nicely.

6423
05:04:39,550 --> 05:04:41,251
Maybe not the best dialogue.

6424
05:04:41,275 --> 05:04:44,000
And you know
what you must do with it.

6425
05:04:45,171 --> 05:04:47,079
The baby's in the other room.

6426
05:04:47,102 --> 05:04:48,492
Some of the scenes
were quite heavy

6427
05:04:48,516 --> 05:04:49,700
with the special effects.

6428
05:04:49,723 --> 05:04:51,241
Very bloody.

6429
05:04:53,344 --> 05:04:54,827
It is a bit weird, isn't it?

6430
05:04:56,965 --> 05:04:58,423
They're quite gruesome effects.

6431
05:04:58,448 --> 05:05:01,000
Looking back on it, they
were really, really good.

6432
05:05:13,171 --> 05:05:15,009
The Spanish title
for "Grave Robbers"

6433
05:05:15,033 --> 05:05:16,862
is "Ladrones De Tumbas".

6434
05:05:18,585 --> 05:05:20,665
There's a lot of
satanic rituals,

6435
05:05:20,688 --> 05:05:22,758
and a lot of killings.

6436
05:05:25,000 --> 05:05:28,769
A guy is persecuted
by the Inquisition,

6437
05:05:28,793 --> 05:05:31,906
and he's tortured, and murdered,

6438
05:05:31,931 --> 05:05:35,000
and he promises to
return for vengeance.

6439
05:05:43,000 --> 05:05:46,354
Our main characters, they
go to the cemeteries,

6440
05:05:46,379 --> 05:05:49,044
dig up the graves,
extract the bodies,

6441
05:05:49,067 --> 05:05:51,940
look for gold and
valuable things,

6442
05:05:51,965 --> 05:05:54,827
and they sell them
in the black market.

6443
05:05:56,723 --> 05:05:59,526
They go through a
tunnel into the dungeons

6444
05:05:59,550 --> 05:06:01,102
of this old hacienda.

6445
05:06:03,310 --> 05:06:05,241
And strange things
start happening.

6446
05:06:13,379 --> 05:06:15,319
By the time we shot
"Grave Robbers",

6447
05:06:15,344 --> 05:06:18,562
I was a big expert
in prosthetics

6448
05:06:18,585 --> 05:06:20,975
and special effects,
cinematography.

6449
05:06:21,000 --> 05:06:22,654
I had learned a lot.

6450
05:06:25,827 --> 05:06:26,940
We didn't shoot it in English.

6451
05:06:26,965 --> 05:06:28,837
We shot it in Spanish.

6452
05:06:28,862 --> 05:06:30,906
We shot that film
in Valle de Bravo.

6453
05:06:30,931 --> 05:06:33,734
It's about an hour and
a half from Mexico City.

6454
05:06:33,758 --> 05:06:34,769
It's in the mountains.

6455
05:06:34,793 --> 05:06:36,965
There's woods all over.

6456
05:06:41,171 --> 05:06:43,688
One girl is kidnapped.

6457
05:06:45,102 --> 05:06:48,734
And the policemen go
inside the dungeons,

6458
05:06:48,758 --> 05:06:52,182
and he finds his daughter
tied up to the floor.

6459
05:06:52,205 --> 05:06:53,423
The demon walks in

6460
05:06:53,448 --> 05:06:56,067
and they engage in a fight.

6461
05:07:00,205 --> 05:07:02,769
When our hero comes in
and saves the policeman

6462
05:07:02,793 --> 05:07:04,631
and saves the girl.

6463
05:07:04,654 --> 05:07:06,585
That's a memorable scene.

6464
05:07:10,344 --> 05:07:14,562
It had known actors for
the domestic market.

6465
05:07:14,585 --> 05:07:16,940
It was aimed for
the right target,

6466
05:07:16,965 --> 05:07:19,526
and it was a very big
success in Mexico,

6467
05:07:19,550 --> 05:07:22,562
and then a big success
when the video clubs

6468
05:07:22,585 --> 05:07:23,896
started renting it out.

6469
05:07:25,723 --> 05:07:26,906
No!

6470
05:07:26,931 --> 05:07:30,631
I wasn't aware
how this film became

6471
05:07:30,654 --> 05:07:33,492
part of the cult
1980s horror films,

6472
05:07:33,516 --> 05:07:35,975
because my career has gone on.

6473
05:07:36,000 --> 05:07:38,562
I'm mostly known
in Mexico for being

6474
05:07:38,585 --> 05:07:41,241
a reality show producer.

6475
05:07:42,448 --> 05:07:44,562
I'm proud of them
because they were done

6476
05:07:44,585 --> 05:07:46,457
with no money, with no time,

6477
05:07:46,481 --> 05:07:48,688
with no technical resources.

6478
05:07:49,619 --> 05:07:51,562
I was in the process of learning

6479
05:07:51,585 --> 05:07:53,734
how to become a filmmaker.

6480
05:07:53,758 --> 05:07:56,793
We were just kids having fun.

6481
05:08:08,136 --> 05:08:11,148
I have no idea why
people romanticize films

6482
05:08:11,171 --> 05:08:13,837
simply because they
were made in the 80s.

6483
05:08:13,862 --> 05:08:15,079
Hi.

6484
05:08:15,102 --> 05:08:17,562
But because they
were made in the 80s,

6485
05:08:17,585 --> 05:08:20,171
they develop a cult reputation.

6486
05:08:23,136 --> 05:08:25,769
I'm really thrilled
that audiences now

6487
05:08:25,793 --> 05:08:27,457
really appreciate this stuff,

6488
05:08:27,481 --> 05:08:29,769
that back in the 80s,
people were just like,

6489
05:08:29,793 --> 05:08:31,631
nah, you know, whatever.

6490
05:08:31,654 --> 05:08:33,871
Now there's a whole
new renaissance,

6491
05:08:33,896 --> 05:08:36,596
if you will, and people are
really getting into them,

6492
05:08:36,619 --> 05:08:38,388
and really loving
them, and giving them

6493
05:08:38,413 --> 05:08:40,526
the kudos that they deserve.

6494
05:08:40,550 --> 05:08:42,526
They have a life today
that's not the same

6495
05:08:42,550 --> 05:08:43,940
as their life in the 80s,

6496
05:08:43,965 --> 05:08:46,388
but let's get real
about, you know

6497
05:08:46,413 --> 05:08:49,000
Orson Welles didn't
make any of these films.

6498
05:08:50,379 --> 05:08:52,182
We need to reframe
the way that we look

6499
05:08:52,205 --> 05:08:54,481
at good and bad movies.

6500
05:08:56,136 --> 05:08:57,906
Bad movies can be enjoyable.

6501
05:08:57,931 --> 05:08:59,700
You can find a different
way to look at it.

6502
05:08:59,723 --> 05:09:02,033
I mean, no one's setting
out to make a bad movie.

6503
05:09:05,275 --> 05:09:07,457
It doesn't really
matter how great

6504
05:09:07,481 --> 05:09:09,596
or not great these movies were,

6505
05:09:09,619 --> 05:09:11,009
it's important to remember

6506
05:09:11,033 --> 05:09:14,837
how the cast, the
crew, the producers,

6507
05:09:14,862 --> 05:09:17,596
the director, put all
their love and energy

6508
05:09:17,619 --> 05:09:20,526
and money into
these various films,

6509
05:09:20,550 --> 05:09:22,940
and really made them
into something unique

6510
05:09:22,965 --> 05:09:24,862
that there was an audience for.

6511
05:09:26,241 --> 05:09:27,906
I think it's
important for us to keep

6512
05:09:27,931 --> 05:09:29,975
these films in conversation.

6513
05:09:30,000 --> 05:09:31,492
Especially the ones
that people think

6514
05:09:31,516 --> 05:09:34,526
maybe are not so great, because
there's the obvious ones,

6515
05:09:34,550 --> 05:09:36,457
like "The Shining", "The Thing".

6516
05:09:36,481 --> 05:09:39,734
Those extend beyond
horror audiences.

6517
05:09:39,758 --> 05:09:40,906
But then there's kind of like,

6518
05:09:40,931 --> 05:09:43,009
we have these in danger
of being forgotten

6519
05:09:43,033 --> 05:09:45,492
or going extinct gems.

6520
05:09:45,516 --> 05:09:47,871
As we move from
this media format

6521
05:09:47,896 --> 05:09:49,354
to this media format,

6522
05:09:49,379 --> 05:09:50,975
there's things that kind of
get pushed to the wayside,

6523
05:09:51,000 --> 05:09:52,492
and we're leaving them behind.

6524
05:09:52,516 --> 05:09:54,217
Hide the body, and come back,

6525
05:09:54,241 --> 05:09:55,837
and clean up the blood.

6526
05:09:55,862 --> 05:09:58,492
People should champion
anything that they enjoy,

6527
05:09:58,516 --> 05:10:01,102
because that's how
you keep things alive.

6528
05:10:04,033 --> 05:10:05,217
Streaming is great.

6529
05:10:05,241 --> 05:10:07,802
I love that it makes
things easily accessible

6530
05:10:07,827 --> 05:10:10,769
to the masses, but
also it doesn't compare

6531
05:10:10,793 --> 05:10:13,700
to browsing and
picking something up

6532
05:10:13,723 --> 05:10:16,044
and feeling it, smelling it,

6533
05:10:16,067 --> 05:10:17,388
holding it in your hands

6534
05:10:17,413 --> 05:10:19,585
is a special kind of experience.

6535
05:10:22,793 --> 05:10:26,182
Home video and cable
meant that movies

6536
05:10:26,205 --> 05:10:29,700
didn't go away, and
that meant that movies

6537
05:10:29,723 --> 05:10:32,113
found their audience.

6538
05:10:32,136 --> 05:10:33,769
And then word of mouth kicks in.

6539
05:10:33,793 --> 05:10:37,837
And to no small extent,
creates horror fandom,

6540
05:10:37,862 --> 05:10:40,457
which has become this tidal wave

6541
05:10:40,481 --> 05:10:45,217
over the 30, 40 years since
that technology arrived.

6542
05:10:45,241 --> 05:10:48,044
Of course it's not ideal
to see a movie on tape

6543
05:10:48,067 --> 05:10:49,871
as opposed to seeing
it on the big screen,

6544
05:10:49,896 --> 05:10:51,457
but as we see that
the way that the world

6545
05:10:51,481 --> 05:10:54,769
has currently gone, many
more people see movies

6546
05:10:54,793 --> 05:10:56,354
on their devices
than they ever see

6547
05:10:56,379 --> 05:10:58,148
on a theater screen,
and the trade off

6548
05:10:58,171 --> 05:11:00,251
is it isn't gonna be seen

6549
05:11:00,275 --> 05:11:01,700
by very many people
in the theater.

6550
05:11:01,723 --> 05:11:03,413
It's mostly gonna
be seen at home.

6551
05:11:04,550 --> 05:11:07,562
Today, there's a kind
of casualness to it.

6552
05:11:07,585 --> 05:11:09,734
I'm still a child of the cinema.

6553
05:11:09,758 --> 05:11:12,769
I'm not crazy about
people being introduced

6554
05:11:12,793 --> 05:11:14,136
to horror through digital.

6555
05:11:15,344 --> 05:11:17,009
The upside is that
the screens are better,

6556
05:11:17,033 --> 05:11:18,906
they're bigger, the
sound is better.

6557
05:11:18,931 --> 05:11:20,423
People are very
serious about the way

6558
05:11:20,448 --> 05:11:21,734
they present their films,

6559
05:11:21,758 --> 05:11:24,217
and so it's a
theater-like experience,

6560
05:11:24,241 --> 05:11:25,734
but it's not a
theater experience,

6561
05:11:25,758 --> 05:11:27,526
because a theater
experience is with a large

6562
05:11:27,550 --> 05:11:30,148
audience of people,
who make the difference

6563
05:11:30,171 --> 05:11:32,862
between what you're watching,
and what you're experiencing.

6564
05:11:34,136 --> 05:11:36,492
An experienced horror
film with a big audience

6565
05:11:36,516 --> 05:11:39,079
that's enjoying it is
completely different

6566
05:11:39,102 --> 05:11:42,526
and more fun experience
than watching it

6567
05:11:42,550 --> 05:11:43,871
at home with two friends.

6568
05:11:43,896 --> 05:11:45,217
That's just night and day.

6569
05:11:45,241 --> 05:11:47,319
Part of the problem
is our technology

6570
05:11:47,344 --> 05:11:48,769
is so magnificent now.

6571
05:11:48,793 --> 05:11:52,009
People think anything
old is clunky.

6572
05:11:52,033 --> 05:11:53,769
This desire just to see the new,

6573
05:11:53,793 --> 05:11:56,251
the new, the new, the
next, the next, the next,

6574
05:11:56,275 --> 05:11:59,044
sometimes prevents us
from taking some time

6575
05:11:59,067 --> 05:12:01,009
out of our very busy lives

6576
05:12:01,033 --> 05:12:03,562
and realizing that
there's some great stuff

6577
05:12:03,585 --> 05:12:05,275
from the past.

6578
05:12:08,136 --> 05:12:11,596
Maybe the movie itself
isn't necessarily great,

6579
05:12:11,619 --> 05:12:13,665
but it's the experience
of watching it

6580
05:12:13,688 --> 05:12:15,596
that makes it great,
and then 20 years later,

6581
05:12:15,619 --> 05:12:18,182
you're telling people, no you
have to watch "Motel Hell".

6582
05:12:18,205 --> 05:12:20,481
This is one of the
greatest movies ever made.

6583
05:12:23,448 --> 05:12:24,940
They hold it near
and dear to their heart

6584
05:12:24,965 --> 05:12:27,906
because they've seen it with
their father who's passed,

6585
05:12:27,931 --> 05:12:30,286
or cousin made them
watch it to scare them,

6586
05:12:30,310 --> 05:12:31,975
or whatever,
however they saw it.

6587
05:12:32,000 --> 05:12:34,000
It holds good
memories for people.

6588
05:12:35,654 --> 05:12:37,079
Horror is personal.

6589
05:12:37,102 --> 05:12:40,044
We can all agree on
a good horror film.

6590
05:12:40,067 --> 05:12:41,423
It's like, ah "Psycho".

6591
05:12:41,448 --> 05:12:44,148
But nobody's defending
"Psycho" to the death.

6592
05:12:44,171 --> 05:12:47,217
I think we have it all wrong
when we talk about horror.

6593
05:12:47,241 --> 05:12:49,906
We're like, this is
good, or this is bad.

6594
05:12:49,931 --> 05:12:51,423
No.

6595
05:12:51,448 --> 05:12:53,802
Something is entertaining
or it's not entertaining,

6596
05:12:53,827 --> 05:12:57,079
and by putting everything
on a good and bad dichotomy,

6597
05:12:57,102 --> 05:12:59,182
we ruin our experience
of being able

6598
05:12:59,205 --> 05:13:03,044
to talk about a movie,
like "Sleepaway Camp II",

6599
05:13:03,067 --> 05:13:05,044
that's just like a
fucking good time.

6600
05:13:05,067 --> 05:13:07,354
"Sleepaway Camp II" doesn't
have to be high art,

6601
05:13:07,379 --> 05:13:09,217
to be a social satire.

6602
05:13:09,241 --> 05:13:12,079
Howdy partner!

6603
05:13:12,102 --> 05:13:13,286
I actually think
that you can find

6604
05:13:13,310 --> 05:13:14,906
more in our culture and history

6605
05:13:14,931 --> 05:13:16,906
and even just social context

6606
05:13:16,931 --> 05:13:19,217
in films that are labeled trash.

6607
05:13:19,241 --> 05:13:21,079
There's more there to
actually pick from,

6608
05:13:21,102 --> 05:13:24,044
and shine a light on
who we were as people.

6609
05:13:24,067 --> 05:13:25,562
Like, a popcorn film?

6610
05:13:25,585 --> 05:13:29,723
That's loaded with identity,
and society, and culture.

6611
05:13:31,171 --> 05:13:33,354
I'm way more interested in
the history I'm gonna get

6612
05:13:33,379 --> 05:13:35,388
from a movie that
people cast aside

6613
05:13:35,413 --> 05:13:36,665
than the history I'm gonna get

6614
05:13:36,688 --> 05:13:38,965
and what I learn in
a film school class.

6615
05:13:41,619 --> 05:13:46,286
Let's not get insanely
academic about these films.

6616
05:13:46,310 --> 05:13:48,354
The people who watch
these movies in the 80s

6617
05:13:48,379 --> 05:13:50,734
weren't watching them from
an ironic point of view.

6618
05:13:50,758 --> 05:13:53,182
They were watching them because
they enjoyed the mayhem.

6619
05:13:53,205 --> 05:13:55,665
The people who watch
those same movies today

6620
05:13:55,688 --> 05:13:58,182
are watching them from
an academic standpoint,

6621
05:13:58,205 --> 05:14:01,388
as though they're analyzing
every little detail

6622
05:14:01,413 --> 05:14:02,457
of the film.

6623
05:14:02,481 --> 05:14:03,975
These films were made by guys

6624
05:14:04,000 --> 05:14:06,217
who wanted to make a fast buck.

6625
05:14:06,241 --> 05:14:07,975
These films were made for money.

6626
05:14:08,000 --> 05:14:11,182
They were not concerned with
trying to impress anybody.

6627
05:14:11,205 --> 05:14:15,009
They were concerned with the
largest audience possible.

6628
05:14:15,033 --> 05:14:17,516
They were filmmakers, but
they were also businessmen.

6629
05:14:19,896 --> 05:14:22,896
These aren't big
extravagant productions.

6630
05:14:26,205 --> 05:14:28,009
You crazy bastard.

6631
05:14:28,033 --> 05:14:30,079
Horror lets you be creative.

6632
05:14:30,102 --> 05:14:31,802
You can go outside the box.

6633
05:14:31,827 --> 05:14:33,596
You can go outside the scope.

6634
05:14:33,619 --> 05:14:36,079
Horror, it can look
cheesy and bad,

6635
05:14:36,102 --> 05:14:37,481
and it's fun.

6636
05:14:40,654 --> 05:14:43,354
We love to be scared,

6637
05:14:43,379 --> 05:14:47,275
and we love to think
we're in peril.

6638
05:14:48,793 --> 05:14:53,793
And we love to be at
odds with each other.

6639
05:14:54,965 --> 05:14:58,802
Movies are so powerful,
because it reminds us

6640
05:14:58,827 --> 05:15:01,734
of a simpler, more
innocent time.

6641
05:15:01,758 --> 05:15:03,665
And that's where
we all want to be.

6642
05:15:03,688 --> 05:15:06,113
God knows in this day and age.

6643
05:15:06,136 --> 05:15:07,827
That's where we all want to be.

6644
05:16:38,448 --> 05:16:40,700
So, before watching
"In Search of Darkness",

6645
05:16:40,723 --> 05:16:41,940
I was definitely
one of those guys

6646
05:16:41,965 --> 05:16:44,182
who was like, yeah
man, I know 80s horror.

6647
05:16:44,205 --> 05:16:46,079
Freddie and Jason!

6648
05:16:46,102 --> 05:16:47,940
Sweet!

6649
05:16:47,965 --> 05:16:49,631
And then I watched "In
Search of Darkness",

6650
05:16:49,654 --> 05:16:52,079
and I realized,
you naive bastard,

6651
05:16:52,102 --> 05:16:54,940
you know nothing
about 80s horror.

6652
05:16:54,965 --> 05:16:57,113
So now I actually know things,

6653
05:16:57,136 --> 05:16:59,251
and like, how had
I lived my life

6654
05:16:59,275 --> 05:17:01,251
and missed "Sleepaway Camp"?

6655
05:17:01,275 --> 05:17:03,113
That is a fantastic movie.

6656
05:17:03,136 --> 05:17:05,758
So thank you for awakening me.

6657
05:17:08,619 --> 05:17:10,286
80s horror is
very important to me

6658
05:17:10,310 --> 05:17:12,251
as I grew up in the early 80s,

6659
05:17:12,275 --> 05:17:13,940
and horror was embedded
in our culture.

6660
05:17:13,965 --> 05:17:15,734
It was in our toys,
in our cartoons.

6661
05:17:15,758 --> 05:17:16,906
It was everywhere.

6662
05:17:16,931 --> 05:17:18,940
We used to draw
monsters in art class,

6663
05:17:18,965 --> 05:17:20,009
like the Monster Squad,

6664
05:17:20,033 --> 05:17:21,423
and that was
acceptable back then.

6665
05:17:21,448 --> 05:17:23,526
You wouldn't get locked
up for stuff like that.

6666
05:17:23,550 --> 05:17:25,388
I miss going into a video store

6667
05:17:25,413 --> 05:17:27,665
and grabbing a random VHS

6668
05:17:27,688 --> 05:17:29,217
and saying hey, this
box art, it looks good.

6669
05:17:29,241 --> 05:17:30,975
Is it a curse, or is it great?

6670
05:17:31,000 --> 05:17:32,319
You never know.

6671
05:17:32,344 --> 05:17:33,596
And you watch it
with your friends

6672
05:17:33,619 --> 05:17:34,975
in the middle of the
night, enjoying it,

6673
05:17:35,000 --> 05:17:37,102
and it brings you back
to a simpler time.

6674
05:17:40,550 --> 05:17:41,802
80s horror is so important to me

6675
05:17:41,827 --> 05:17:43,665
because it's an
escape from reality.

6676
05:17:43,688 --> 05:17:45,492
Takes me back to a simpler time.

6677
05:17:45,516 --> 05:17:46,906
Gives me that nostalgia.

6678
05:17:46,931 --> 05:17:48,388
And these documentaries,

6679
05:17:48,413 --> 05:17:50,526
they help nail the fact home

6680
05:17:50,550 --> 05:17:52,975
that horror can
be a cathartic way

6681
05:17:53,000 --> 05:17:55,423
to deal with fear and
all the BS this world

6682
05:17:55,448 --> 05:17:56,665
has to throw at us.

6683
05:17:56,688 --> 05:17:58,526
80s horror, and all
horror in general,

6684
05:17:58,550 --> 05:17:59,769
and I love that.

6685
05:17:59,793 --> 05:18:01,562
These documentaries
are amazing for that.

6686
05:18:01,585 --> 05:18:02,700
Favorite movie of all time?

6687
05:18:02,723 --> 05:18:04,940
"Silver Bullet", 1985.

6688
05:18:04,965 --> 05:18:07,734
It is incredible.

6689
05:18:07,758 --> 05:18:08,758
Rock on.

6690
05:18:11,793 --> 05:18:12,975
Hey.

6691
05:18:13,000 --> 05:18:14,871
I just wanted to say
thank you so, so much

6692
05:18:14,896 --> 05:18:17,906
to everybody involved with
"In Search of Darkness".

6693
05:18:17,931 --> 05:18:19,802
It's been absolutely fantastic.

6694
05:18:19,827 --> 05:18:21,319
I've really, really enjoyed.

6695
05:18:21,344 --> 05:18:23,906
It's flooded back
memories of going down

6696
05:18:23,931 --> 05:18:26,009
the video shop, the video store,

6697
05:18:26,033 --> 05:18:28,871
in the 80s, looking at
the best horror films

6698
05:18:28,896 --> 05:18:30,217
that were released.

6699
05:18:30,241 --> 05:18:31,423
Absolutely fantastic.

6700
05:18:31,448 --> 05:18:33,044
And it's also introduced me

6701
05:18:33,067 --> 05:18:35,871
to some of the
classics that I missed,

6702
05:18:35,896 --> 05:18:38,448
down the video shop, going
back all those years.

6703
05:18:42,827 --> 05:18:45,423
80s horror happened to coincide

6704
05:18:45,448 --> 05:18:48,769
with the VHS era,
and in my opinion,

6705
05:18:48,793 --> 05:18:50,596
the 80s horror was
the prime attraction

6706
05:18:50,619 --> 05:18:51,975
of the VHS.

6707
05:18:52,000 --> 05:18:53,457
I mean, look at that.

6708
05:18:53,481 --> 05:18:56,033
How could you walk by that
and not want to rent it?

6709
05:18:59,413 --> 05:19:00,665
Oh, hi.

6710
05:19:00,688 --> 05:19:01,906
I'm AJ Danna.

6711
05:19:01,931 --> 05:19:04,492
I played Tapehead at
"Slashback Video".

6712
05:19:04,516 --> 05:19:06,113
The "In Search of
Darkness" trilogy

6713
05:19:06,136 --> 05:19:08,526
has meant so much to
dust off these old

6714
05:19:08,550 --> 05:19:11,526
classic horror tapes, and
make sure each and every

6715
05:19:11,550 --> 05:19:15,319
actor and filmmaker involved
in these movie making gems

6716
05:19:15,344 --> 05:19:17,526
did not pour their
blood, sweat, and tears

6717
05:19:17,550 --> 05:19:20,000
into movies in vain.

6718
05:19:21,067 --> 05:19:22,241
So anyways, thanks.

6719
05:19:25,550 --> 05:19:27,423
I decided to back the "In
Search of Darkness" series

6720
05:19:27,448 --> 05:19:29,906
for the tireless people
behind Creator BC,

6721
05:19:29,931 --> 05:19:31,975
because you learn something
interesting and significant

6722
05:19:32,000 --> 05:19:34,044
about the films from the
people who worked on the films

6723
05:19:34,067 --> 05:19:36,067
that you can't
find anywhere else.

6724
05:19:38,448 --> 05:19:40,734
To me, horror movies
were a safe haven

6725
05:19:40,758 --> 05:19:41,975
growing up in the 80s.

6726
05:19:42,000 --> 05:19:44,423
I spent so many hours
in the video store

6727
05:19:44,448 --> 05:19:46,665
browsing for titles to watch.

6728
05:19:46,688 --> 05:19:49,492
When "In Search of
Darkness: Part One" ended,

6729
05:19:49,516 --> 05:19:52,492
the covers shown up with a key,

6730
05:19:52,516 --> 05:19:56,286
and a dark room, the
TV, the characters.

6731
05:19:56,310 --> 05:19:59,000
It was like I was that same boy.

6732
05:20:00,171 --> 05:20:03,388
This documentary has
been a door to go back

6733
05:20:03,413 --> 05:20:04,723
and complete that journey.

6734
05:20:07,067 --> 05:20:08,769
80s horror movies
are important to me

6735
05:20:08,793 --> 05:20:10,492
because I was raised
the right way,

6736
05:20:10,516 --> 05:20:11,734
and grew up watching them

6737
05:20:11,758 --> 05:20:13,319
ever since I was
a wee little one,

6738
05:20:13,344 --> 05:20:15,182
despite not growing
up in that generation.

6739
05:20:15,205 --> 05:20:17,354
But it was cool people
from that generation

6740
05:20:17,379 --> 05:20:19,079
who showed me those
movies, and gave us

6741
05:20:19,102 --> 05:20:20,388
something to bond over.

6742
05:20:20,413 --> 05:20:22,354
But my favorite
horror movie has to be

6743
05:20:22,379 --> 05:20:23,596
John Carpenter's "The Thing".

6744
05:20:23,619 --> 05:20:25,769
The most amazing
practical effects

6745
05:20:25,793 --> 05:20:27,769
to the gore, and
of course starring

6746
05:20:27,793 --> 05:20:30,596
the absolute hunks Kurt
Russel and Keith David,

6747
05:20:30,619 --> 05:20:31,975
what is there not to love?

6748
05:20:32,000 --> 05:20:33,388
So 80s horror rules,

6749
05:20:33,413 --> 05:20:35,009
and thanks to "In
Search of Darkness"

6750
05:20:35,033 --> 05:20:36,379
for bringing it all back.

6751
05:20:38,516 --> 05:20:42,423
You know, growing up as a
kid with not many friends,

6752
05:20:42,448 --> 05:20:44,965
actually I had none
until I was 10.

6753
05:20:46,344 --> 05:20:49,286
Single father, worked
nights, and slept all day.

6754
05:20:49,310 --> 05:20:51,769
Horror movies were my go-to,

6755
05:20:51,793 --> 05:20:54,251
and the monsters
were my friends,

6756
05:20:54,275 --> 05:20:56,079
and it was just awesome.

6757
05:20:56,102 --> 05:20:59,044
With the "In Search
of Darkness" trilogy,

6758
05:20:59,067 --> 05:21:02,457
I got to relive that
past as a child,

6759
05:21:02,481 --> 05:21:06,344
and it just, it's perfect.

6760
05:21:11,171 --> 05:21:12,251
80s horror was the best.

6761
05:21:12,275 --> 05:21:13,562
It was imagination.

6762
05:21:13,585 --> 05:21:14,802
It was entertainment.

6763
05:21:14,827 --> 05:21:16,802
It was fun, it was
gory, it was crazy,

6764
05:21:16,827 --> 05:21:17,632
it was the best.

6765
05:21:17,655 --> 05:21:19,067
80 horror rules!

6766
05:21:22,000 --> 05:21:24,148
I'm Matt Weinhold,
and I love 80s horror

6767
05:21:24,171 --> 05:21:27,217
because it's scary,
sexy, innovative,

6768
05:21:27,241 --> 05:21:30,837
indecent, unapologetic, and fun!

6769
05:21:30,862 --> 05:21:33,067
It's the punk rock of horror!

6770
05:21:39,688 --> 05:21:42,044
Having been a
teenager in the 1980s,

6771
05:21:42,067 --> 05:21:44,700
I was able to experience
most of these films

6772
05:21:44,723 --> 05:21:46,388
in a theatrical setting.

6773
05:21:46,413 --> 05:21:49,423
The 80s gave us the
best of John Landis,

6774
05:21:49,448 --> 05:21:52,354
and John Carpenter,
and David Cronenberg,

6775
05:21:52,379 --> 05:21:54,596
and we got to see the
birth of franchises

6776
05:21:54,619 --> 05:21:56,871
of "Friday the 13th" and
"Nightmare on Elm Street",

6777
05:21:56,896 --> 05:21:58,802
and "Poltergeist", "Evil Dead",

6778
05:21:58,827 --> 05:22:01,286
and what "In Search of
Darkness" has allowed me to do

6779
05:22:01,310 --> 05:22:04,802
is revisit those memories,
and love these films

6780
05:22:04,827 --> 05:22:05,862
all over again.

6781
05:22:08,793 --> 05:22:12,079
In the 1980s, we
gazed into the abyss,

6782
05:22:12,102 --> 05:22:13,596
and we smiled,

6783
05:22:13,619 --> 05:22:16,665
because it was filled with
visceral practical effects,

6784
05:22:16,688 --> 05:22:19,562
intrepid heroes, garish demons,

6785
05:22:19,585 --> 05:22:22,354
and synth-laden
nightmare schemes.

6786
05:22:22,379 --> 05:22:24,217
Thanks to "In
Search of Darkness",

6787
05:22:24,241 --> 05:22:28,379
the abyss can finally gaze
back at us, and smile.

6788
05:22:32,827 --> 05:22:34,286
My love of 80s horror films

6789
05:22:34,310 --> 05:22:36,700
started back when
I was 11 years old.

6790
05:22:36,723 --> 05:22:38,423
I stayed up one night
and watched "A Nightmare"

6791
05:22:38,448 --> 05:22:40,148
"on Elm Street" with my mum.

6792
05:22:40,171 --> 05:22:41,940
Halfway through the
film, I got so scared

6793
05:22:41,965 --> 05:22:45,044
that I went up to bed,
and five minutes later,

6794
05:22:45,067 --> 05:22:46,596
I was back downstairs
watching the rest

6795
05:22:46,619 --> 05:22:48,079
of the film with her.

6796
05:22:48,102 --> 05:22:50,827
That's where it started, and
it's never stopped since.

6797
05:22:53,481 --> 05:22:56,319
Watching "In Search of
Darkness" documentaries

6798
05:22:56,344 --> 05:22:59,413
takes me back to the best
part of my childhood,

6799
05:23:00,862 --> 05:23:04,700
and also knowing that I'm
watching these documentaries

6800
05:23:04,723 --> 05:23:07,286
with a community of people

6801
05:23:07,310 --> 05:23:10,769
that also share my
love of 80s horror,

6802
05:23:10,793 --> 05:23:12,758
it is the best feeling.

6803
05:23:15,136 --> 05:23:19,700
The immense popularity
of these movies

6804
05:23:19,723 --> 05:23:22,837
showed so many of
us that we were part

6805
05:23:22,862 --> 05:23:27,700
of a global community,
and so in a way,

6806
05:23:27,723 --> 05:23:29,871
the darkness became
a place of comfort,

6807
05:23:29,896 --> 05:23:33,723
because we knew
we weren't alone.

6808
05:23:36,171 --> 05:23:39,423
In a sense, it's more
like it's our story,

6809
05:23:39,448 --> 05:23:41,286
and what these
movies mean to us,

6810
05:23:41,310 --> 05:23:43,931
and I can't thank these
documentaries enough for that.

6811
05:23:46,379 --> 05:23:48,665
Everything about
it is so beautiful.

6812
05:23:48,688 --> 05:23:51,113
It's one of the
best times of horror

6813
05:23:51,136 --> 05:23:54,310
and it makes me feel
better about me and myself.

6814
05:23:58,862 --> 05:24:01,113
There's something
for everyone in there,

6815
05:24:01,136 --> 05:24:04,388
whether you like
slashers, comedies,

6816
05:24:04,413 --> 05:24:07,769
my personal favorite
horror movie from the 1980s

6817
05:24:07,793 --> 05:24:09,700
is "Killer Klowns
from Outer Space".

6818
05:24:09,723 --> 05:24:11,286
I saw that movie the first time

6819
05:24:11,310 --> 05:24:14,975
when I was maybe 10 years old,

6820
05:24:15,000 --> 05:24:17,596
and that's one of the
movies that made me

6821
05:24:17,619 --> 05:24:20,182
fall in love with horror,
and the reason I'm as big

6822
05:24:20,205 --> 05:24:22,067
of a horror fan as I am today.

6823
05:24:24,896 --> 05:24:26,975
When I wanted to
get into horror,

6824
05:24:27,000 --> 05:24:30,217
and I was too scared
to watch it by myself,

6825
05:24:30,241 --> 05:24:33,354
my friends would sit with
me in my dark basement,

6826
05:24:33,379 --> 05:24:36,906
and we would watch 80s
horror movies together.

6827
05:24:36,931 --> 05:24:39,009
And we started
with the classics,

6828
05:24:39,033 --> 05:24:42,975
and slowly moved our way out
to totally obscure titles,

6829
05:24:43,000 --> 05:24:47,769
but for me, those were really
special times in my life.

6830
05:24:47,793 --> 05:24:50,596
And it really made horror,
especially 80s horror,

6831
05:24:50,619 --> 05:24:53,619
something that brought
people together in my life.

6832
05:24:56,241 --> 05:24:58,940
80s horror movies really
had a style of their own

6833
05:24:58,965 --> 05:25:00,562
that make this
particular decade of work

6834
05:25:00,585 --> 05:25:02,975
always so unique
to look back on.

6835
05:25:03,000 --> 05:25:05,009
It was also a decade where
it felt like special effects

6836
05:25:05,033 --> 05:25:07,596
were perfected in such a way,
you could almost smell them

6837
05:25:07,619 --> 05:25:10,251
through your screen,
something like "The Thing",

6838
05:25:10,275 --> 05:25:12,009
and speaking of "The
Thing", you could have

6839
05:25:12,033 --> 05:25:14,319
hard horror subject like that,

6840
05:25:14,344 --> 05:25:16,354
but you could have also
sillier stuff like "Vamp",

6841
05:25:16,379 --> 05:25:18,665
which makes this particular
decade always so fun

6842
05:25:18,688 --> 05:25:21,148
to go back and
discover new gems,

6843
05:25:21,171 --> 05:25:23,457
and I really am glad that
these documentaries exist

6844
05:25:23,481 --> 05:25:24,931
to highlight all of that.

6845
05:25:27,275 --> 05:25:30,665
Best thing about 80s horror
were the comedy movies,

6846
05:25:30,688 --> 05:25:33,837
like "The Burbs",
and "Gremlins 2",

6847
05:25:33,862 --> 05:25:35,837
"House", "House 2",
the "Ghostbusters",

6848
05:25:35,862 --> 05:25:37,975
all those movies made
it so much easier

6849
05:25:38,000 --> 05:25:40,802
as a kid to then turn
around and be able to watch

6850
05:25:40,827 --> 05:25:43,251
movies with this
scary bastard in it,

6851
05:25:43,275 --> 05:25:45,619
and scare the shit out of
you when you're a little kid.

6852
05:25:47,688 --> 05:25:49,492
John Carpenter, Wes
Craven, Tobe Hooper,

6853
05:25:49,516 --> 05:25:51,837
Tom Holland, Peter
Jackson, Sam Raimi,

6854
05:25:51,862 --> 05:25:53,562
Stewart Gordon, Don Coscarelli.

6855
05:25:53,585 --> 05:25:55,526
I just need an
indestructible boogeyman

6856
05:25:55,550 --> 05:25:57,526
carving up annoying teenagers.

6857
05:25:57,550 --> 05:25:58,802
I don't need to know how or why.

6858
05:25:58,827 --> 05:26:00,319
It just has to show
up every few years,

6859
05:26:00,344 --> 05:26:02,113
and do it again
in creative ways.

6860
05:26:02,136 --> 05:26:03,975
Give me a monster
with sharp teeth,

6861
05:26:04,000 --> 05:26:05,286
and gooey tentacles.

6862
05:26:05,310 --> 05:26:06,940
What I don't want
is found footage,

6863
05:26:06,965 --> 05:26:08,596
and shaky cam and
possessed dolls,

6864
05:26:08,619 --> 05:26:11,286
and cheesy ghosts, and
spare me all the CGI blood.

6865
05:26:11,310 --> 05:26:13,388
I want Tom Savini,
Screaming Mad George.

6866
05:26:13,413 --> 05:26:15,550
I want a Kurtzman
Nicotero hamburger.

6867
05:26:19,102 --> 05:26:19,907
Hey guys.

6868
05:26:19,932 --> 05:26:21,319
My name is Jason.

6869
05:26:21,344 --> 05:26:22,700
And no surprise, my
favorite horror franchise

6870
05:26:22,723 --> 05:26:24,802
of all time is
"Friday the 13th".

6871
05:26:24,827 --> 05:26:27,388
I did a book report on
Part 3 in grade six.

6872
05:26:27,413 --> 05:26:29,596
Yes, I was in grade six
watching these movies,

6873
05:26:29,619 --> 05:26:31,136
and I absolutely loved them.

6874
05:26:32,688 --> 05:26:35,492
I think the 80s is
absolutely the greatest decade

6875
05:26:35,516 --> 05:26:37,906
of horror films, and
I grew up in the 90s.

6876
05:26:37,931 --> 05:26:40,044
There were so many great
horror films made back then.

6877
05:26:40,067 --> 05:26:42,665
I can't even decide
which one's my favorite.

6878
05:26:42,688 --> 05:26:44,526
I also think "In Search of
Darkness" is the greatest

6879
05:26:44,550 --> 05:26:46,700
documentary ever made.

6880
05:26:46,723 --> 05:26:48,113
It introduced me to
several horror films

6881
05:26:48,136 --> 05:26:50,457
I had never heard of,
including "Sleepaway Camp",

6882
05:26:50,481 --> 05:26:52,044
"Fade to Black", "Motel Hell",

6883
05:26:52,067 --> 05:26:53,286
"American Werewolf in London",

6884
05:26:53,310 --> 05:26:55,700
"Society", "Scanners",
"The Changeling",

6885
05:26:55,723 --> 05:26:57,975
"The Ghost Story",
and so many more.

6886
05:26:58,000 --> 05:26:59,286
I don't think there
will ever be anything

6887
05:26:59,310 --> 05:27:01,171
like 80s horror ever again

6888
05:27:03,481 --> 05:27:04,975
Hello, everyone.

6889
05:27:05,000 --> 05:27:07,009
What I've enjoyed most about
the "In Search of Darkness"

6890
05:27:07,033 --> 05:27:09,388
documentary series
would have to be

6891
05:27:09,413 --> 05:27:12,388
the behind the scenes
information about the movies

6892
05:27:12,413 --> 05:27:16,975
I know and love, but also,
and probably more importantly,

6893
05:27:17,000 --> 05:27:19,631
the vast amount of hidden gems

6894
05:27:19,654 --> 05:27:21,319
it has introduced me to.

6895
05:27:21,344 --> 05:27:24,354
It is mind-blowing how many
entertaining horror movies

6896
05:27:24,379 --> 05:27:25,940
there are from that decade.

6897
05:27:25,965 --> 05:27:26,965
So thank you.

6898
05:27:28,723 --> 05:27:30,251
One of my favorite
1980s horror movies

6899
05:27:30,275 --> 05:27:32,113
would have to be
"Night of the Demons".

6900
05:27:32,136 --> 05:27:33,802
Reason being, I was pretty young

6901
05:27:33,827 --> 05:27:35,148
when the movie first came out.

6902
05:27:35,171 --> 05:27:36,734
My older sister
introduced me to the film

6903
05:27:36,758 --> 05:27:38,286
because she wanted to scare me.

6904
05:27:38,310 --> 05:27:39,769
It scared me pretty good.

6905
05:27:39,793 --> 05:27:41,769
I remember having a hard time
going to sleep that night,

6906
05:27:41,793 --> 05:27:44,000
scared that the monster
was gonna get me.

6907
05:27:45,448 --> 05:27:48,044
So I have a lot of nostalgic
feelings about the movie.

6908
05:27:48,067 --> 05:27:49,550
That's why I like it so much.

6909
05:27:51,723 --> 05:27:54,975
My first and absolute
favorite 80s horror movie

6910
05:27:55,000 --> 05:27:56,665
is "American Werewolf in London"

6911
05:27:56,688 --> 05:27:58,526
by John Landis.

6912
05:27:58,550 --> 05:28:01,562
Watching that movie sent
me down a rabbit hole

6913
05:28:01,585 --> 05:28:04,631
of 80s horror movies that
I'd never seen before,

6914
05:28:04,654 --> 05:28:06,457
and through that
movie, I got introduced

6915
05:28:06,481 --> 05:28:08,136
to "In Search of Darkness",

6916
05:28:09,550 --> 05:28:12,354
and ever since, things
have never been the same,

6917
05:28:12,379 --> 05:28:14,631
and it's been an
amazing journey.

6918
05:28:14,654 --> 05:28:15,862
I thank you for it.

6919
05:28:18,654 --> 05:28:21,182
80s horror is incredibly
important to me.

6920
05:28:21,205 --> 05:28:23,182
Horror slashed its
way into my life

6921
05:28:23,205 --> 05:28:24,423
when I was a kid.

6922
05:28:24,448 --> 05:28:26,354
Myself and my buddies
would stay up all night

6923
05:28:26,379 --> 05:28:28,526
watching horror movies,
from horror icons

6924
05:28:28,550 --> 05:28:30,526
like Freddie, to "Killer
Klowns from Outer Space".

6925
05:28:30,550 --> 05:28:32,526
The greatest times of my life

6926
05:28:32,550 --> 05:28:33,975
is due to the horror genre.

6927
05:28:34,000 --> 05:28:36,665
80s horror strapped
me into my adult life

6928
05:28:36,688 --> 05:28:39,251
where I now collect
80s horror memorabilia,

6929
05:28:39,275 --> 05:28:41,526
plus I'm always on the
hunt for 80s horror

6930
05:28:41,550 --> 05:28:42,975
that I'm yet to discover.

6931
05:28:43,000 --> 05:28:45,388
I have an insatiable
thirst for blood in film.

6932
05:28:45,413 --> 05:28:47,113
Tom Savini's work in the genre

6933
05:28:47,136 --> 05:28:48,802
has my jaw dropped to the floor.

6934
05:28:48,827 --> 05:28:50,975
The realism of his
work is something

6935
05:28:51,000 --> 05:28:53,423
that's gonna be admired
long after I'm gone.

6936
05:28:53,448 --> 05:28:56,423
For me, he sets the bar for
practical effects within horror.

6937
05:28:56,448 --> 05:28:58,286
I love "In Search of
Darkness", as it's

6938
05:28:58,310 --> 05:29:01,113
a time capsule of
horror, for us, the fans.

6939
05:29:01,136 --> 05:29:03,562
"In Search of Darkness"
is also a love letter

6940
05:29:03,585 --> 05:29:05,388
to everyone that
holds a special place

6941
05:29:05,413 --> 05:29:06,723
in their heart for horror.

6942
05:29:08,448 --> 05:29:10,837
I love how they use
all practical effects,

6943
05:29:10,862 --> 05:29:13,113
for these, all the
blood and guts,

6944
05:29:13,136 --> 05:29:15,526
all the rubber monsters
that they used,

6945
05:29:15,550 --> 05:29:17,802
all the costume work
is all hand made,

6946
05:29:17,827 --> 05:29:19,526
and all practically done.

6947
05:29:19,550 --> 05:29:21,136
It makes it look great.

6948
05:29:23,171 --> 05:29:26,044
The 80s was an era of DIY.

6949
05:29:26,067 --> 05:29:28,079
If you didn't have a
passion for your craft,

6950
05:29:28,102 --> 05:29:31,009
or you didn't want
your story to be told,

6951
05:29:31,033 --> 05:29:33,837
it simply wouldn't
make it out there.

6952
05:29:33,862 --> 05:29:36,009
This is what showed in
the films growing up,

6953
05:29:36,033 --> 05:29:37,802
which was hard.

6954
05:29:37,827 --> 05:29:40,354
It's difficult to
articulate this feeling.

6955
05:29:40,379 --> 05:29:42,769
However, every fan or
person contributing

6956
05:29:42,793 --> 05:29:46,079
to this series, will have
moments which resonated

6957
05:29:46,102 --> 05:29:48,688
and impacted into
their adult life.

6958
05:29:51,550 --> 05:29:53,113
What I love most about the 80s,

6959
05:29:53,136 --> 05:29:55,388
especially 80s horror movies,

6960
05:29:55,413 --> 05:29:58,113
is just how ridiculous
the concepts are,

6961
05:29:58,136 --> 05:30:00,793
and just how well
they're executed.

6962
05:30:02,758 --> 05:30:05,975
"In Search of Darkness"
meant a lot to me

6963
05:30:06,000 --> 05:30:09,388
because it introduced
me to a whole field,

6964
05:30:09,413 --> 05:30:11,079
a whole group of people,

6965
05:30:11,102 --> 05:30:14,562
that are so dedicated,
and so motivated,

6966
05:30:14,585 --> 05:30:17,700
on trying to find a
lot of 80s horror films

6967
05:30:17,723 --> 05:30:20,906
that not a lot of younger
horror film fans even heard of.

6968
05:30:20,931 --> 05:30:23,182
Sometimes y'all have
heard of "Halloween"

6969
05:30:23,205 --> 05:30:26,079
or "Friday the 13th", or
"Nightmare on Elm Street",

6970
05:30:26,102 --> 05:30:27,975
but it's these
small classic films

6971
05:30:28,000 --> 05:30:29,837
that really hold
deep to my heart,

6972
05:30:29,862 --> 05:30:31,182
knowing that a lot of
people have seen it

6973
05:30:31,205 --> 05:30:32,769
really brings joy to me.

6974
05:30:32,793 --> 05:30:34,379
That's why it meant a lot to me.

6975
05:30:38,033 --> 05:30:39,286
Hey, I'm Twisted Todd.

6976
05:30:39,310 --> 05:30:40,769
I'm a big fan of
80s horror films,

6977
05:30:40,793 --> 05:30:42,665
mainly because as a kid
growing up in the 80s,

6978
05:30:42,688 --> 05:30:43,871
didn't get to watch a
lot of horror movies,

6979
05:30:43,896 --> 05:30:45,769
but my parents
rented a lot of them,

6980
05:30:45,793 --> 05:30:47,044
and I got to hear
them from my bedroom,

6981
05:30:47,067 --> 05:30:48,354
which fed my curiosity,

6982
05:30:48,379 --> 05:30:49,871
so about the time I
was in middle school

6983
05:30:49,896 --> 05:30:52,044
in the late 80s, finally
got to watch horror films,

6984
05:30:52,067 --> 05:30:53,700
fell in love with
the slasher genre,

6985
05:30:53,723 --> 05:30:55,388
love films like "Creepshow",

6986
05:30:55,413 --> 05:30:57,217
and then later on
in my college days,

6987
05:30:57,241 --> 05:31:00,388
I really fell in love
with the cinematic genius

6988
05:31:00,413 --> 05:31:02,009
of directors like
John Carpenter,

6989
05:31:02,033 --> 05:31:03,251
and of course Sam Raimi,

6990
05:31:03,275 --> 05:31:05,000
because I'm a huge
"Evil Dead" fan.

6991
05:31:07,102 --> 05:31:09,562
I grew up mesmerized
by horror movies,

6992
05:31:09,585 --> 05:31:11,871
primarily throughout the 80s.

6993
05:31:11,896 --> 05:31:13,940
They were such an important part

6994
05:31:13,965 --> 05:31:15,940
of many of my formative years,

6995
05:31:15,965 --> 05:31:19,423
and contribute to so many
of my young memories.

6996
05:31:19,448 --> 05:31:21,665
I've since come to
embrace and enjoy

6997
05:31:21,688 --> 05:31:23,769
all cinema, having
learned so much more

6998
05:31:23,793 --> 05:31:26,354
about all genres over the years,

6999
05:31:26,379 --> 05:31:28,241
but you never forget
your first love.

7000
05:31:30,413 --> 05:31:31,631
Horror films of the 80s

7001
05:31:31,654 --> 05:31:34,734
were so imaginative,
and so ambitious,

7002
05:31:34,758 --> 05:31:37,217
but they pull it off,
and there's a real

7003
05:31:37,241 --> 05:31:38,871
charm to them, a levity
that we didn't have

7004
05:31:38,896 --> 05:31:41,217
in the 70s, when
everything was very real,

7005
05:31:41,241 --> 05:31:42,975
and very gritty,
and then we lost it

7006
05:31:43,000 --> 05:31:44,319
somewhere in the 90s,

7007
05:31:44,344 --> 05:31:46,217
and then things
got very cynical.

7008
05:31:46,241 --> 05:31:48,113
But there's a fun
factor to the 80s,

7009
05:31:48,136 --> 05:31:51,113
and it's no surprise
that it takes a project

7010
05:31:51,136 --> 05:31:53,492
three, four plus
hour documentaries

7011
05:31:53,516 --> 05:31:55,481
to really do that
decade justice.

7012
05:31:57,481 --> 05:31:59,044
Growing up in the
80s, horror movies

7013
05:31:59,067 --> 05:32:00,492
were a big part of my life.

7014
05:32:00,516 --> 05:32:02,148
Thanks to a video rentals shop,

7015
05:32:02,171 --> 05:32:03,562
I was able to watch
as many as I want

7016
05:32:03,585 --> 05:32:06,596
when I wanted without
issue on my edge,

7017
05:32:06,619 --> 05:32:07,975
that helped me get through
the trauma of school,

7018
05:32:08,000 --> 05:32:09,769
and everything
that came with it,

7019
05:32:09,793 --> 05:32:11,975
and this is why I'm
passionate about them,

7020
05:32:12,000 --> 05:32:14,217
and in particular,
"Nightmare on Elm Street"

7021
05:32:14,241 --> 05:32:16,413
is one I'm really
passionate about.

7022
05:32:20,481 --> 05:32:23,596
80s horror movies were a
big part of my childhood,

7023
05:32:23,619 --> 05:32:25,665
having grown up in the 80s,

7024
05:32:25,688 --> 05:32:27,665
I watched them all.

7025
05:32:27,688 --> 05:32:30,940
My favorite 80s horror
movie of all time

7026
05:32:30,965 --> 05:32:33,148
is "A Nightmare on Elm Street".

7027
05:32:33,171 --> 05:32:36,734
It was the first horror
movie I ever saw,

7028
05:32:36,758 --> 05:32:40,217
and it planted the seed
for my love of horror.

7029
05:32:40,241 --> 05:32:42,457
These "Search for
Darkness" documentaries

7030
05:32:42,481 --> 05:32:45,562
have been nostalgic,
and brought back

7031
05:32:45,585 --> 05:32:49,379
all those happy memories
of visiting video stores.

7032
05:32:51,481 --> 05:32:52,940
I was born in 1980,

7033
05:32:52,965 --> 05:32:54,526
so being a child of the 80s,

7034
05:32:54,550 --> 05:32:55,906
some of my best memories

7035
05:32:55,931 --> 05:32:56,838
were hanging out with my mom

7036
05:32:56,863 --> 05:32:58,354
on a Friday or Saturday night,

7037
05:32:58,379 --> 05:33:00,113
going down to the
local video store,

7038
05:33:00,136 --> 05:33:03,492
getting some 80s
horror on VHS tape,

7039
05:33:03,516 --> 05:33:04,700
and just making those memories

7040
05:33:04,723 --> 05:33:06,423
and being scared, laughing,

7041
05:33:06,448 --> 05:33:08,319
and getting all cringed up.

7042
05:33:08,344 --> 05:33:10,286
And the "In Search
of Darkness" series

7043
05:33:10,310 --> 05:33:12,526
has brought those
memories back to me,

7044
05:33:12,550 --> 05:33:14,769
and helped me discover
all the horror films

7045
05:33:14,793 --> 05:33:16,113
I never knew existed!

7046
05:33:16,136 --> 05:33:17,136
Thank you for that.

7047
05:33:19,793 --> 05:33:20,975
Hi there.

7048
05:33:21,000 --> 05:33:22,700
I love watching horror
movie documentaries

7049
05:33:22,723 --> 05:33:24,251
and anything regarding horror,

7050
05:33:24,275 --> 05:33:25,906
but one series I really love

7051
05:33:25,931 --> 05:33:28,423
is the "In Search
of Darkness" series.

7052
05:33:28,448 --> 05:33:30,319
I love how all these
people just show

7053
05:33:30,344 --> 05:33:32,319
how much they love and
care for these movies,

7054
05:33:32,344 --> 05:33:34,665
especially for the movies
I've never even heard before,

7055
05:33:34,688 --> 05:33:37,286
and I love this series,
because it shows me

7056
05:33:37,310 --> 05:33:38,562
all different kinds of horror

7057
05:33:38,585 --> 05:33:40,596
that I haven't
even heard before,

7058
05:33:40,619 --> 05:33:42,975
or even seen, or
anything like that.

7059
05:33:43,000 --> 05:33:44,802
So I'm sad that it's ending,

7060
05:33:44,827 --> 05:33:47,481
but hey, gotta end
sometimes, right?

7061
05:33:49,965 --> 05:33:51,286
I think most horror
fans would agree

7062
05:33:51,310 --> 05:33:53,319
that the absolute
best decade for horror

7063
05:33:53,344 --> 05:33:54,492
was the 1980s.

7064
05:33:54,516 --> 05:33:55,906
We got the best of the best,

7065
05:33:55,931 --> 05:33:57,182
the worst of the worst,

7066
05:33:57,205 --> 05:33:58,319
the best of the worst,

7067
05:33:58,344 --> 05:33:59,769
and everything in between.

7068
05:33:59,793 --> 05:34:00,975
I can't even pick a favorite,

7069
05:34:01,000 --> 05:34:02,769
because there's far too
many to choose from,

7070
05:34:02,793 --> 05:34:04,631
but having something like
the "In Search of Darkness"

7071
05:34:04,654 --> 05:34:07,526
trilogy has been an
absolute dream come true.

7072
05:34:07,550 --> 05:34:09,871
Getting to sit there for
hours and hours on end,

7073
05:34:09,896 --> 05:34:11,631
and watch my favorite filmmakers

7074
05:34:11,654 --> 05:34:13,734
talk about my favorite
films has been great,

7075
05:34:13,758 --> 05:34:16,009
but it's also been great
to be able to discover

7076
05:34:16,033 --> 05:34:18,654
new movies that I may not
have even heard of before.

7077
05:34:20,931 --> 05:34:23,251
"Evil Dead II", "Re-Animator",

7078
05:34:23,275 --> 05:34:25,734
"The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2",

7079
05:34:25,758 --> 05:34:29,665
all of these great horror films,

7080
05:34:29,688 --> 05:34:33,654
with comedic timing,
comedy inserted into it,

7081
05:34:34,793 --> 05:34:36,975
really affect me, shape me,

7082
05:34:37,000 --> 05:34:41,734
to such a degree that
today I write about horror

7083
05:34:41,758 --> 05:34:45,000
and horror comedy for
Pace Magazine and Vulture.

7084
05:34:50,275 --> 05:34:53,526
80s horror for me
signifies complete nostalgia.

7085
05:34:53,550 --> 05:34:55,492
I clearly remember
being a young boy

7086
05:34:55,516 --> 05:34:58,286
and seeing these wonderful
and iconic 80s posters,

7087
05:34:58,310 --> 05:35:01,526
and being simultaneously
scared and intrigued.

7088
05:35:01,550 --> 05:35:04,388
But now as an academic
that writes about horror,

7089
05:35:04,413 --> 05:35:06,148
documentaries like "In
Search of Darkness"

7090
05:35:06,171 --> 05:35:08,492
are highly important as
they raise the profile

7091
05:35:08,516 --> 05:35:10,148
of horrors in that form.

7092
05:35:10,171 --> 05:35:12,734
These films are not
only fun and super cool,

7093
05:35:12,758 --> 05:35:15,665
but they are significant
cultural products,

7094
05:35:15,688 --> 05:35:18,516
well-deserving of academic
analysis and study.

7095
05:35:21,000 --> 05:35:24,837
The 80s was a time when
the horror genre exploded.

7096
05:35:24,862 --> 05:35:27,492
Big name horror icons
like Jason, Freddie,

7097
05:35:27,516 --> 05:35:30,388
Chuckie, Pinhead, all got
their start in the 80s.

7098
05:35:30,413 --> 05:35:32,940
And being a late 90s
kid, these were names

7099
05:35:32,965 --> 05:35:35,975
that I grew up knowing to fear.

7100
05:35:36,000 --> 05:35:37,734
My girlfriend and I searched out

7101
05:35:37,758 --> 05:35:39,286
a lot of these films,
and it was something

7102
05:35:39,310 --> 05:35:41,182
that we could always bond over.

7103
05:35:41,205 --> 05:35:43,079
And I think that "In
Search of Darkness"

7104
05:35:43,102 --> 05:35:44,700
did something really great,

7105
05:35:44,723 --> 05:35:48,000
cataloging and celebrating
all of these films.

7106
05:35:50,000 --> 05:35:51,975
They have inspired
me to go to college

7107
05:35:52,000 --> 05:35:54,492
and learn how to
write horror films.

7108
05:35:54,516 --> 05:35:55,734
I'm a future filmmaker

7109
05:35:55,758 --> 05:35:58,275
because of all the
movies I've watched.

7110
05:35:59,896 --> 05:36:01,596
And I'm thankful that I was able

7111
05:36:01,619 --> 05:36:03,481
to be a part of this community.

7112
05:36:06,275 --> 05:36:08,975
Watching horror movies
as a kid in the 80s

7113
05:36:09,000 --> 05:36:11,665
inspired me to get
into the film industry,

7114
05:36:11,688 --> 05:36:15,009
especially to make
horror movies of my own,

7115
05:36:15,033 --> 05:36:17,354
and so "In Search of
Darkness" continues

7116
05:36:17,379 --> 05:36:19,596
to be that inspiration,

7117
05:36:19,619 --> 05:36:22,388
and I hope it does the same

7118
05:36:22,413 --> 05:36:25,457
for the next wave
of horror creators,

7119
05:36:25,481 --> 05:36:26,931
for generations to come.

7120
05:36:29,896 --> 05:36:31,319
80s horror means a lot to me,

7121
05:36:31,344 --> 05:36:32,631
takes me back to
when I was a kid

7122
05:36:32,654 --> 05:36:34,457
hanging out with my
brothers and my friends,

7123
05:36:34,481 --> 05:36:36,665
staying up late, watching
movies I know I should not

7124
05:36:36,688 --> 05:36:38,113
have been watching at the time,

7125
05:36:38,136 --> 05:36:39,975
and falling in love with
stories and characters

7126
05:36:40,000 --> 05:36:42,113
created by Wes Craven,
John Carpenter,

7127
05:36:42,136 --> 05:36:44,217
George Romero, and Charles Band.

7128
05:36:44,241 --> 05:36:45,734
I will always be in their debt

7129
05:36:45,758 --> 05:36:47,562
for providing me with
hours of entertainment,

7130
05:36:47,585 --> 05:36:48,975
and with "In Search
of Darkness",

7131
05:36:49,000 --> 05:36:50,940
it has provided me
with even more hours

7132
05:36:50,965 --> 05:36:52,217
of 80s horror entertainment

7133
05:36:52,241 --> 05:36:54,802
that I will continue
to watch to this day.

7134
05:36:54,827 --> 05:36:57,965
Long live 80s horror and
"In Search of Darkness".

7135
05:37:01,619 --> 05:37:04,665
As an 80s kid, one
of my favorite memories

7136
05:37:04,688 --> 05:37:08,837
are from video stores Friday
night selecting movies.

7137
05:37:08,862 --> 05:37:11,492
The horror section always
had the best films,

7138
05:37:11,516 --> 05:37:13,344
and the most amazing cover art.

7139
05:37:14,619 --> 05:37:16,940
The 80s horror
basically has it all,

7140
05:37:16,965 --> 05:37:19,319
a great story, a good cast,

7141
05:37:19,344 --> 05:37:22,275
amazing special effects,
and a cool soundtrack.

7142
05:37:24,723 --> 05:37:27,457
These documentaries have
been life-changing for me.

7143
05:37:27,481 --> 05:37:30,009
They were films that
I had forgotten about,

7144
05:37:30,033 --> 05:37:32,251
films that I had never seen,

7145
05:37:32,275 --> 05:37:35,562
and a love for a distinct period

7146
05:37:35,585 --> 05:37:39,975
of my early life that
I oftentimes feel
disconnected from,

7147
05:37:40,000 --> 05:37:44,319
and I'm so thankful to
have found these projects,

7148
05:37:44,344 --> 05:37:46,033
and been able to
back all of them.

7149
05:37:48,344 --> 05:37:49,344
Thank you.

7150
05:37:51,793 --> 05:37:53,516
All the best parts of nostalgia

7151
05:37:55,171 --> 05:37:56,837
in a pool of blood.

7152
05:37:56,862 --> 05:37:57,862
Love it.

7153
05:37:59,758 --> 05:38:01,286
Hey, this is Jacob.

7154
05:38:01,310 --> 05:38:02,526
And Angelica.

7155
05:38:02,550 --> 05:38:04,457
We're both fans of
80s horror movies.

7156
05:38:04,481 --> 05:38:06,871
That's why we own
all three volumes

7157
05:38:06,896 --> 05:38:08,526
of "In Search of Darkness".

7158
05:38:08,550 --> 05:38:11,079
It's a dictionary, basically,
of all the greatest

7159
05:38:11,102 --> 05:38:13,251
horror movies made from the 80s

7160
05:38:13,275 --> 05:38:15,182
that we've all grown to love.

7161
05:38:15,205 --> 05:38:17,205
"In Search of
Darkness", you rock.

7162
05:38:20,448 --> 05:38:22,286
The "In Search of
Darkness" documentaries

7163
05:38:22,310 --> 05:38:24,526
have allowed me to
relive, year by year,

7164
05:38:24,550 --> 05:38:26,871
a truly golden age
in horror cinema.

7165
05:38:26,896 --> 05:38:28,837
In the 80s, we had
directors like Carpenter,

7166
05:38:28,862 --> 05:38:31,423
Romero, and Cronenberg in
the peak of their career.

7167
05:38:31,448 --> 05:38:33,631
We had a new generation of
practical special effects

7168
05:38:33,654 --> 05:38:36,492
in horror cinema, and
video stores coming out

7169
05:38:36,516 --> 05:38:38,251
with a new horror
title every week.

7170
05:38:38,275 --> 05:38:40,182
The fact that we're still
talking about all these films

7171
05:38:40,205 --> 05:38:42,457
over 30 years later
just shows how durable

7172
05:38:42,481 --> 05:38:44,044
the horror genre is.

7173
05:38:44,067 --> 05:38:46,516
So please, keep those
documentaries coming.

7174
05:38:51,448 --> 05:38:52,665
Hi.

7175
05:38:52,688 --> 05:38:54,182
First of all, I
want to thank you

7176
05:38:54,205 --> 05:38:56,492
for including us
fans in so many ways,

7177
05:38:56,516 --> 05:38:58,492
and for the journey
you've been taking us

7178
05:38:58,516 --> 05:39:01,182
for the three "In Search
of Darkness" documentaries.

7179
05:39:01,205 --> 05:39:03,871
I love 80s horror so much
because of the style,

7180
05:39:03,896 --> 05:39:06,734
the creativity, and the
passion for each of the films.

7181
05:39:06,758 --> 05:39:09,217
But the most important
part for me is

7182
05:39:09,241 --> 05:39:12,148
that every single film
from this horror decade,

7183
05:39:12,171 --> 05:39:13,388
the good and the bad,

7184
05:39:13,413 --> 05:39:16,000
are so great because
of the fun they make.

7185
05:39:20,102 --> 05:39:22,182
David, Robin.

7186
05:39:22,205 --> 05:39:24,286
You've created a monster.

7187
05:39:24,310 --> 05:39:26,975
A timeless milestone
for every horror fan.

7188
05:39:27,000 --> 05:39:29,079
And I'm extremely thankful
for being featured

7189
05:39:29,102 --> 05:39:32,631
in part one of the ultimate
horror documentary experience.

7190
05:39:32,654 --> 05:39:35,251
It made me feel
like I'm 15 again.

7191
05:39:35,275 --> 05:39:38,079
So for anyone who's "In
Search of Darkness",

7192
05:39:38,102 --> 05:39:40,654
stop searching,
because we found it.

7193
05:39:43,275 --> 05:39:45,423
80s horror is so important to me

7194
05:39:45,448 --> 05:39:49,182
because it gave me ideas
to draw when I was younger,

7195
05:39:49,205 --> 05:39:51,596
and as my drawing
ability progressed,

7196
05:39:51,619 --> 05:39:53,837
today I'm a tattoo artist,

7197
05:39:53,862 --> 05:39:57,113
so I guess you could say 80s
horror helped shape my life.

7198
05:39:57,136 --> 05:39:58,734
Plus being Canadian,
I want to give

7199
05:39:58,758 --> 05:40:00,631
a special thanks
to David Cronenberg

7200
05:40:00,654 --> 05:40:03,009
for all the
inspiration he gave me.

7201
05:40:03,033 --> 05:40:05,251
"In Search of
Darkness", honestly,

7202
05:40:05,275 --> 05:40:07,975
greatest documentary
I have ever watched.

7203
05:40:08,000 --> 05:40:10,354
It brought me straight
back to some of the most

7204
05:40:10,379 --> 05:40:12,000
special times of my life.

7205
05:40:14,448 --> 05:40:16,596
As a kid in the
80s, I was constantly

7206
05:40:16,619 --> 05:40:19,286
in and out of hospitals.

7207
05:40:19,310 --> 05:40:21,975
Watching horror movies
and playing video games

7208
05:40:22,000 --> 05:40:23,171
was a release for me.

7209
05:40:24,344 --> 05:40:26,217
Basically, I'm the
kid on the box art,

7210
05:40:26,241 --> 05:40:28,000
and on the posters.

7211
05:40:29,448 --> 05:40:32,700
I'm so proud to be part
of this incredible journey

7212
05:40:32,723 --> 05:40:35,631
through 80s horror that is
the "In Search of Darkness"

7213
05:40:35,654 --> 05:40:40,310
trilogy, and I just had to
immortalize it on my body.

7214
05:40:45,481 --> 05:40:46,975
I love it that we're done.

7215
05:40:47,000 --> 05:40:48,241
I love it.

7216
05:40:49,067 --> 05:40:50,067
Love it.

7217
05:40:52,896 --> 05:40:54,413
Enough is never enough

7218
05:40:56,862 --> 05:40:57,862
of the star.

7219
05:41:00,723 --> 05:41:01,723
Mm.