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I had ambitions to set out and find...

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like a quest
to find "home" wherever it is

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I set out to find this house
that I left some time ago

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And I didn't remember exactly
Where was it, but I was on my way there

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I encountered what I encountered
On the way, this is how I imagined everything.

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I had no special ambitions
Or ambitions at all

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I was born in a very far away place
From where I was meant to be

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So I'm on my way home, you know.

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Zacki audio translation by
And there is no need for the Targum - learn English

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*--^-a good viewing-^--*

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<i>You used to dress nice,</i>

12
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<i> On a day when you feel pleasant throw a coin to beggars</i>

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<i>?Isn't that so</i>

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<i>People would say "Watch out honey, you're about to fall;
</i>

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<i>You thought they were just laughing at you</i>

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<i>You laughed about it all</i>

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<i>of all the people walking around</i>

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<i>But now you no longer speak loudly</i>

19
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<i>Now you don't look so proud</i>

20
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<i>...about the fact that you have to wait in line</i>

21
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<i>Your next meal </i>

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<i>? How does it feel</i>

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<i>How does it feel,</i>

24
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<i>being alone</i>

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<i>no direction home</i>

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<i>be completely unknown</i>

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<i>Like a rolling stone</i>

28
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<i>Time... you can try many things
make time stand still
</i>

29
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<i>But of course, nobody can do that</i>

30
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<i>When I was 10 years old then
I started playing the guitar
</i>

31
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<i>Actually I found her in the house my father bought</i>

32
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<i>I found another thing in her.
I found some kind of mystical sounds in it.</i>

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<i>There was a big mahogany radio</i>

34
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<i>When you opened the top
There was a 78.</i> turntable

35
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<i>...one day I opened it</i>

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<i>And there was a record placed there
...it was a country record
</i>

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<i>This song is called
"To drift too far from shore"</i>

38
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The sound in the song made me
....to feel like I'm someone else

39
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And it...

40
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You know, maybe not even
I was born to the right parents, or something.

41
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It looked like any American town
From the 40s or 50s

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All in all, what a rural town.
She was on her way to nowhere</i>

43
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And you probably wouldn't succeed
Find it on a map.</i>

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There were maybe three streets in one direction,
And a few blocks in the other direction...</i>

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One main street
In it were all the shops and offices</i>

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<i>...the pharmacies and
...that's about it, you know</i>

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What is happening to the town?
?After the livelihood disappears
</i>

48
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<i>Okay, it just crumbles
and fades or entertains</i>

49
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<i>That's how it is
This is the</i>process

50
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<i>Most of the land was private agricultural land</i>

51
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<i>or nationalized to the mining companies</i>

52
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<i>...very hot in the summer</i>

53
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in winter
It was really cold, you know

54
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All winters were like this...

55
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We didn't have the clothes we have today...

56
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That's why I say we used to wear
Two or three shirts, you see

57
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sleep in clothes

58
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<i>The pit (mine) was on the border at the edge of the city
Usually everyone worked there

59
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<i>.You couldn't be a rebel
It was so cold you couldn't be bad.</i>

60
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<i>The weather would equalize everything
very fast</i>

61
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<i> ...and no one was really going to pull a stick
(change something)
</i>

62
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There really was no philosophy,
...or determination

63
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An ideology that really deserves to be opposed

64
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<i>My father and his brother had one
Electrical products store

65
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<i>The first job I ever had
She was sweeping the shop

66
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And I was expected to study

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The discipline of hard work or something
,
you know..

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the benefits of employment.

69
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<i>The circuses would come.</i>

70
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<i>There were tent shows
in Midvis</i>'s rays

71
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<i>And they had proclamations</i>

72
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We have a horse with two heads here!

73
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We have a chicken with a man's face there!

74
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Come see the boy-girl!

75
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<i> So it was simply more rustic</i>

76
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This is what people did.
You could see whites there made up as blacks.;</i>

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George Washington in blackface...

78
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or Napoleon in blackface

79
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Something like strange Shakespearean characters.

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Things that didn't really make sense
at that time

81
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<i>And people had other jobs
in the Carney team
</i>

82
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<i>...I saw someone putting on makeup</i>

83
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<i>and returns back to turn the Ferris wheel </i>

84
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I thought, this is really an interesting thing

85
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These guys had,...you know
He did two actions, or something like that.. you see

86
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<i>I have a song here that I would like to play
which was very pleasant for me and the guys here.</i>

87
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<i>This is a work called.;</i>

88
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A very cold heart

89
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<i>We had to listen late at night
For other stations that will receive from other countries ...</i>

90
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<i>from other parts of the country,
Places that were very far away

91
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<i> Fifty thousand watt stations
were suddenly absorbed from the atmosphere.</i>

92
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<i>Johnny Ray.;</i>

93
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<i>He had a kind of strange incantation (spell) in his voice </i>

94
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<i>As if undergoing voodoo treatment...</i>

95
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And he sings with emotion like he's crying or something

96
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<i>And now it's time for the Grand Ole Opry.</i>

97
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<i> Another great folk music show,
Starring Webb Pierce</i>

98
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<i>It was the sound that caught me.</i>

99
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It wasn't who committed, or...

100
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That was his sound

101
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<i>This is our city, Hibbing Minnesota, USA..</i>

102
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<i>I started listening to a lot of radio,
And I started to get bored in this city.</i>

103
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I thought about going to military college...

104
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But the military college
that I imagined myself going to her...

105
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I couldn't get in...

106
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She was West Point.

107
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You know, I could always imagine myself
Killed in some heroic battle somewhere.

108
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, therefore my intention is that this area is disqualified in my opinion...

109
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disappeared

110
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<i>The first time I heard rock'n'roll on the radio</i>

111
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<i>...I felt it was quite similar to
to the country music I used to listen to.</i>

112
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I founded several bands, groups.
And..that we grew up and rehearsed and performed

113
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Where we could play.
There wasn't really a serious opportunity...

114
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To really succeed and break out of that zone

115
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<i> Robert was in my class, and that was it
The time when there was a young talent program
.</i>

116
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<i>Robert was of course the leader on stage.</i>

117
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<i>His show has started,
And it was quite surprising.</i>

118
00:11:00,773 --> 00:11:03,003
<i>I saw Robert standing there
With the piano...</i>

119
00:11:03,109 --> 00:11:05,907
<i>
And my guess was that he was
Just tried to destroy him
.
</i>

120
00:11:06,012 --> 00:11:10,381
<i>He knocked on the piano
It was the most extraordinary thing to watch.</i>

121
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<i>The manager in charge lowered the curtain on him.</i>

122
00:11:13,286 --> 00:11:17,245
<i>He said: "I don't think this music
"Suitable for the audience."

123
00:11:17,356 --> 00:11:18,880
And then he closed the screen. "</i>

124
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Nobody liked country music,
Or rock'n'roll or rhythm and blues.

125
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<i> This music was unlike any other
For what was really common at the time.</i>

126
00:11:31,838 --> 00:11:35,774
<i>The music that was popular at the time
"How much does the puppy cost in the shop window?"</i>

127
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This was our reality.
Our reality was bleak from the start.</i>

128
00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,546
<i>Our reality was fear at every moment...</i>

129
00:11:42,648 --> 00:11:46,482
<i>This black cloud will explode,
where everyone will be dead. (The nuclear threat) .</i>

130
00:11:48,788 --> 00:11:52,724
At school they would show you over and over again,
How to quickly "dive" under the table when the alarm sounds.</i>

131
00:11:52,825 --> 00:11:56,955
<i>That's how we grew up with all this
....It educated us to paranoia and fears.</i>

132
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This thing, I don't know, was probably unexpected.

133
00:12:06,806 --> 00:12:10,640
In May, 1959
,
I recorded a tape for Bob Zimmerman
.</i>

134
00:12:10,743 --> 00:12:13,041
Bob was really excited to learn
..I had a tape recorder.

135
00:12:14,447 --> 00:12:16,915
And he wanted to know
How does he sound on the recording?

136
00:12:19,986 --> 00:12:22,614
<i>I really can't say
...if the girls liked me or</i>not

137
00:12:22,722 --> 00:12:24,690
<i>
I walked around the</i>town

138
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<i>The first girl I had and loved me,
Read Gloria Story (story)</i>

139
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<i>Gloria Storey, I mean
That was her</i>real name

140
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The second company was called "Eco".
And that's really a strange thing.</i>

141
00:12:34,734 --> 00:12:36,827
<i>I've never heard of anything called "Eco"
(in Hebrew Hed)</i>

142
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<i> I serenaded her under the ladder
who went up to the window of her room
.</i>

143
00:12:44,744 --> 00:12:48,510
And these two girls, by the way,
They brought out the poet in me

144
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<i>Long after we parted ways...</i>

145
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<i>Long after we die, when the flesh of our beginning is not yet
Traveled the light years into the distance...</i>

146
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<i>It will disappear into the black void
from where we came...</i>

147
00:13:00,426 --> 00:13:04,624
<i>will be destroyed when we
We will become a burst of gas and fire.</i>

148
00:13:09,569 --> 00:13:12,231
<i>James Dean, Brando, the Savage.</i>

149
00:13:12,338 --> 00:13:14,499
It didn't kill the entire past

150
00:13:14,607 --> 00:13:17,804
It's not like they just appeared
And there's a new scene happening now.

151
00:13:17,910 --> 00:13:21,311
Time, you know. the time
as if erasing the past

152
00:13:21,414 --> 00:13:24,178
It was all around me while I was growing up

153
00:13:25,084 --> 00:13:27,211
Only time and progress, really.

154
00:13:28,154 --> 00:13:30,748
<i>?How does it feel</i>?

155
00:13:31,357 --> 00:13:35,817
<i>Oh how it feels</i>

156
00:13:37,830 --> 00:13:40,765
<i>Being alone lonely</i>

157
00:13:42,935 --> 00:13:46,837
<i>without any direction to the house</i>

158
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<i>like a complete stranger</i>

159
00:13:53,713 --> 00:13:57,513
<i>Like some stone that rolls?</i>

160
00:15:00,112 --> 00:15:02,273
He just changed completely.

161
00:15:02,381 --> 00:15:05,748
He has changed from what he was.
He is not like what he was in the beginning.

162
00:15:05,851 --> 00:15:08,046
-?You don't recognize him at all
- No.

163
00:15:08,154 --> 00:15:11,282
About a year ago I saw him
Here at Sheffield Town Hall

164
00:15:11,390 --> 00:15:13,119
And I thought he was impressive.

165
00:15:13,225 --> 00:15:15,659
You know, I thought
He just couldn't get any better if he tried.

166
00:15:15,761 --> 00:15:17,361
And then the next thing that happened was...

167
00:15:17,396 --> 00:15:19,557
It has become downright commercial,
With this band behind him.

168
00:15:19,665 --> 00:15:22,031
And I didn't like it that much.

169
00:15:22,435 --> 00:15:23,925
I don't know what he's trying to do.

170
00:15:24,036 --> 00:15:27,403
I think he just gave up
to the type of popular music.

171
00:15:27,506 --> 00:15:30,839
I think this is a bad thing.
I think he sells himself.

172
00:15:36,615 --> 00:15:41,348
I don't think the spirit of Dylan's songs
Shown here in this show..

173
00:15:41,821 --> 00:15:45,917
With this incredibly corny group behind him.

174
00:15:46,625 --> 00:15:50,959
<i>I liked his earlier songs
And the Freewheelin' permission like on the record</i>

175
00:15:51,063 --> 00:15:53,224
But this?  I just can't stay.

176
00:15:56,469 --> 00:15:57,902
I found it quite boring.

177
00:15:58,003 --> 00:16:01,666
I also found there were too many improvisations
with his poor harmonica
.

178
00:16:01,774 --> 00:16:06,643
And he also tended to lose his rhythm sometimes
on his guitar

179
00:16:06,979 --> 00:16:11,311
Hi! Mr. Tambourine Man,
play a song for me
</i>

180
00:16:11,417 --> 00:16:15,683
<i>I'm not sleepy
And there's no place I'm go</i>ing

181
00:16:18,457 --> 00:16:23,121
Hi! Mr. Tambourine Man,
play me a song</i>

182
00:16:23,262 --> 00:16:28,029
<i>In the morning the jingle
I will follow you
</i>

183
00:16:32,371 --> 00:16:35,363
<i>Indeed the empire of the evening</i>

184
00:16:35,474 --> 00:16:37,874
<i>Back to being sand again</i>

185
00:16:38,043 --> 00:16:40,136
<i>disappeared from my hand,</i>

186
00:16:40,246 --> 00:16:44,842
<i>Left me here in the blind
To stand, but not yet</i>sleep

187
00:16:47,586 --> 00:16:52,319
<i>My fatigue amazes me
I'm branded on my feet</i>

188
00:16:52,558 --> 00:16:54,617
<i>I have no one to meet with</i>

189
00:16:54,727 --> 00:16:58,686
And the ancient and empty streets
Too many dead to dream
</i>

190
00:17:02,067 --> 00:17:06,561
Hi Mister Tambourine
play me a song</i>

191
00:17:06,705 --> 00:17:11,404
<i>I'm not sleepy
And there's no place I'm go</i>ing

192
00:17:14,113 --> 00:17:18,550
Hi! Mr. Tambourine Man, play me a song,</i>

193
00:17:18,651 --> 00:17:23,281
<i> When the morning sounds are played
I will follow you </i>

194
00:17:35,601 --> 00:17:38,502
<i>You left high school
And I left the next day</i>

195
00:17:38,604 --> 00:17:42,096
<i>I advanced as far as I could
in my specific environment.</i>

196
00:17:42,408 --> 00:17:44,603
I was going to join some other band.

197
00:18:02,228 --> 00:18:05,994
<i>There was only one guy who got famous
There, and he was from Fargo</i>at all

198
00:18:06,098 --> 00:18:10,330
I actually went there to play with him
"He had a local hit called "Suzy Baby

199
00:18:10,436 --> 00:18:13,166
<i>at this point,
I just played in a trio with a piano

200
00:18:13,272 --> 00:18:17,265
I didn't have my own piano
Then they weren't ready to buy a piano

201
00:18:18,611 --> 00:18:21,136
But I still played with them
in several performances

202
00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:22,840
Not much came of it

203
00:18:26,452 --> 00:18:30,548
<i>He made sure to show people
which is supposedly Bobby V</i>'s

204
00:18:31,123 --> 00:18:34,320
<i>Bob told everyone.. including relatives, like
,
cousins and relatives</i>

205
00:18:34,426 --> 00:18:36,485
You know, he's Bobby V

206
00:18:36,595 --> 00:18:40,258
And I guess he liked that recognition
Being famous

207
00:18:40,366 --> 00:18:41,765
: Because people looked at him and said

208
00:18:41,867 --> 00:18:44,301
"Hey you got a good song... Bobby V"

209
00:18:44,403 --> 00:18:46,769
I was like a musical delegation

210
00:18:47,239 --> 00:18:51,335
I had no past, really, to speak of
,
Nothing worth going back to, no one to lean on.

211
00:18:51,443 --> 00:18:54,970
<i>I arrived at the University of Minneapolis
I didn't go to classes</i>

212
00:18:56,248 --> 00:18:57,738
...I signed up

213
00:18:58,617 --> 00:19:02,713
But I didn't go to classes

214
00:19:04,123 --> 00:19:06,182
I just didn't feel like it.

215
00:19:06,525 --> 00:19:10,586
<i>We would sing and play all night
You see, and then sleep all morning</i>

216
00:19:10,696 --> 00:19:13,062
<i>And really, I didn't really have time to study</i>

217
00:19:14,500 --> 00:19:16,229
<i>"Blessed be the man</i>

218
00:19:16,435 --> 00:19:19,461
<i>"He exists in milk, and lives in flowers</i>

219
00:19:19,972 --> 00:19:23,840
<i>"And his violin tune
Takes place in milk and creamed emptiness

220
00:19:24,243 --> 00:19:28,373
<i>"And blessed is he who...</i>

221
00:19:28,881 --> 00:19:31,816
<i>"</i>

222
00:19:31,984 --> 00:19:34,350
<i>"</i>

223
00:19:34,553 --> 00:19:38,614
<i>"</i>

224
00:19:40,526 --> 00:19:43,654
<i>I fell into this atmosphere
Influenced by Jack Kruzek (poet)</i>

225
00:19:43,762 --> 00:19:45,889
His words about the world having gone completely mad

226
00:19:45,998 --> 00:19:49,695
And the only people for him
which were interesting

227
00:19:50,469 --> 00:19:55,065
were the crazy, crazy people
The ones who were, you know, crazy to live...

228
00:19:56,542 --> 00:20:01,172
and crazy to talk, crazy to be saved,
Desires everything at once

229
00:20:01,547 --> 00:20:04,038
The ones who never yawn
All these crazy people

230
00:20:04,149 --> 00:20:06,515
And I felt that I fit into this group.

231
00:21:01,173 --> 00:21:04,939
<i>I heard folk music
Before leaving the iron range (Minosta area).</i>

232
00:21:05,044 --> 00:21:08,571
<i>I heard John Jacob Niles somewhere,
Strangely enough,</i>

233
00:21:09,748 --> 00:21:13,741
I don't know, folk music
She passed me something, you know

234
00:21:15,054 --> 00:21:19,320
What I've always felt about life
...you know...and people

235
00:21:19,525 --> 00:21:24,394
And you know, institutions and ideology...

236
00:21:25,831 --> 00:21:29,028
And it was just
You know, a way to bare it all.

237
00:22:35,834 --> 00:22:38,564
<i>She played up and down strokes
kind of rhythm
...</i>

238
00:22:38,670 --> 00:22:42,333
<i>Where you don't need the drum
It's a bit like a Tex-Mex beat.</i>

239
00:22:42,474 --> 00:22:43,805
...I heard that beat

240
00:22:43,909 --> 00:22:47,242
And I thought, well, I can use
....this rhythm for all kinds of things.

241
00:22:48,013 --> 00:22:50,675
<i>I don't even remember, you know,
Buying records</i>

242
00:22:50,782 --> 00:22:54,445
<i>I entered the booth listening to albums
And I had a quick</i>perceiving mind

243
00:22:54,853 --> 00:22:59,051
I could learn a song
Maybe in one or two hearings.

244
00:23:06,965 --> 00:23:10,560
<i>I replaced the electric guitar
For acoustic guitar</i>

245
00:23:11,069 --> 00:23:13,003
I started playing it almost immediately.

246
00:23:13,105 --> 00:23:17,007
There he is, down at the end of the bar.
Dylan! what's up

247
00:23:18,010 --> 00:23:20,638
Dylan Thomas, and he looks shocked

248
00:23:20,746 --> 00:23:21,940
There in Minnesota...

249
00:23:23,282 --> 00:23:26,046
...was a young man who was inspired

250
00:23:27,586 --> 00:23:29,781
...change his name to Dylan

251
00:23:30,355 --> 00:23:32,880
Because of the poet Dylan Thomas

252
00:23:33,592 --> 00:23:35,219
"Piousness sings

253
00:23:35,594 --> 00:23:40,258
"Innocence sweetens my last black breath

254
00:23:40,732 --> 00:23:44,896
"Modesty hides my thighs with her wings

255
00:23:46,238 --> 00:23:49,366
"And all the deadly virtues

256
00:23:51,109 --> 00:23:53,873
"!Beat my death"

257
00:23:55,614 --> 00:23:59,607
<i>Why did it become that particular name,
I really can't say</i>

258
00:24:00,686 --> 00:24:03,382
Probably some intimacy
Maybe he changes his name...

259
00:24:03,488 --> 00:24:04,785
Because of racism

260
00:24:05,624 --> 00:24:07,819
Because I later found out

261
00:24:07,926 --> 00:24:10,952
Minneapolis has had quite a history
in antisemitism

262
00:24:11,063 --> 00:24:13,190
I was not aware of her at all.

263
00:24:13,498 --> 00:24:15,159
<i>The name just popped into my head
one day</i>

264
00:24:15,267 --> 00:24:18,134
<i>But it didn't really happen
Because of what they wrote about it</i>

265
00:24:18,237 --> 00:24:21,297
I mean, I just don't feel like I had
past

266
00:24:21,406 --> 00:24:23,601
And you know, I shouldn't have
...to be privileged

267
00:24:23,709 --> 00:24:27,008
Except what I did
in the present tense

268
00:24:27,112 --> 00:24:28,977
...and I don't, you know

269
00:24:30,315 --> 00:24:33,978
I didn't care what I said
...you know. It's not yet, really

270
00:24:36,388 --> 00:24:40,688
I would say he sounds average
He wasn't the worst, he wasn't the best...

271
00:24:40,792 --> 00:24:43,488
But the repertoire was similar
...for everyone's repertoire

272
00:24:44,663 --> 00:24:46,927
Josh White, Odette, Bellefonte.

273
00:24:47,032 --> 00:24:50,661
At that time and in that place I had no purpose
Besides learning all the songs I could

274
00:25:06,418 --> 00:25:08,716
He was hungry
Hungry in many ways</i>

275
00:25:08,820 --> 00:25:11,118
<i>Not just for money
Not just for fame
.</i>

276
00:25:11,223 --> 00:25:15,421
He was hungry for experience
To break out, do it

277
00:25:15,794 --> 00:25:18,786
He looked at what was out there
And see who he can be.

278
00:25:23,368 --> 00:25:25,302
<i>...he was like a sponge in a way, like</i>

279
00:25:25,404 --> 00:25:27,804
pick up mannerisms, accents of people.

280
00:25:38,250 --> 00:25:41,310
I forgot all about Iron Rang
.where I grew up

281
00:25:41,420 --> 00:25:43,479
I completely forgot about everything

282
00:25:45,023 --> 00:25:46,650
It never even crossed my mind

283
00:25:54,809 --> 00:26:03,709
Woody Guthrie

284
00:26:05,510 --> 00:26:08,070
Woody Guthrie, he had a unique sound

285
00:26:08,580 --> 00:26:12,607
<i>And besides that he also said something
which was integrated into his</i>playing

286
00:26:13,752 --> 00:26:16,243
<i>It was very unusual, to my ears.</i>

287
00:26:33,772 --> 00:26:37,173
<i>He had deep-rooted extremist views
His songs had a radical tendency.</i>

288
00:26:37,642 --> 00:26:40,805
...I thought, "Oh," you know, like
"! This is what I want to sing"

289
00:26:41,046 --> 00:26:42,104
"I want to sing it."

290
00:26:51,189 --> 00:26:53,453
<i>I couldn't believe it
that I have never heard of this man</i>

291
00:26:53,558 --> 00:26:57,358
<i>You can hear his songs,
And actually learn how to live</i>

292
00:26:58,430 --> 00:27:01,695
<i>:One person said
"You're singing a Woody Guthrie song. "</i>

293
00:27:03,001 --> 00:27:06,198
<i>He gave me a book he wrote,
It's called Bound for Glory, and I read it.</i>

294
00:27:06,304 --> 00:27:09,205
<i> I identified with it
...with the book "Destined for Glory"...</i>

295
00:27:10,008 --> 00:27:12,602
"More than I even did with "On the way

296
00:27:13,845 --> 00:27:16,643
<i> These songs sounded like something ancient; outdated. which does not correspond to the present tense.
to most people</i>

297
00:27:17,482 --> 00:27:19,950
...I don't know
Why didn't they sound like that to me?

298
00:27:20,051 --> 00:27:23,782
They sounded like those songs
.happening to me right now

299
00:27:32,864 --> 00:27:35,230
<i>Well, I see you got it </i>

300
00:27:35,434 --> 00:27:38,870
<i>Brand new leopard skin hat</i>

301
00:27:41,306 --> 00:27:44,070
<i>Yes, I see you got </i>

302
00:27:44,476 --> 00:27:48,412
<i>Brand new leopard skin hat</i>

303
00:27:50,048 --> 00:27:52,380
<i>Well, you have to tell me, honey</i>

304
00:27:52,484 --> 00:27:56,045
<i>How does your head feel?
Under something like this</i>

305
00:27:56,221 --> 00:27:59,554
<i>under your new brand
Leopard</i>skin pillbox hat

306
00:27:59,724 --> 00:28:01,919
<i>Well, you wear it so beautifully</i>

307
00:28:02,494 --> 00:28:05,395
<i>Honey, can I jump on it sometime?</i>

308
00:28:08,266 --> 00:28:10,826
<i>Yes, I just want to see</i>

309
00:28:11,436 --> 00:28:14,530
<i>If it's really the expensive kind</i>

310
00:28:16,842 --> 00:28:19,402
<i>You know it balances on your head</i>

311
00:28:19,511 --> 00:28:22,844
Just like a balanced mattress
And a bottle of wine</i>on it

312
00:28:22,948 --> 00:28:26,111
<i>Your new leopard skin ball cap</i>

313
00:28:52,844 --> 00:28:55,904
<i>I asked the doctor if I could see you</i>

314
00:28:56,715 --> 00:28:58,205
Fantastic, very good.

315
00:28:58,316 --> 00:29:00,477
- Rank.
- Excellent.

316
00:29:01,152 --> 00:29:04,417
-It was wretched, it was pathetic.
- He was great!

317
00:29:09,361 --> 00:29:12,262
The card read
We came to see Dylan and not the band

318
00:29:12,364 --> 00:29:13,626
Not a pop band

319
00:29:19,738 --> 00:29:21,569
Special paper, now, with all the pictures.

320
00:29:36,521 --> 00:29:38,751
<i>I just learned songs
And I played them</i>

321
00:29:38,857 --> 00:29:41,382
And I tried to find out
Who was Woody Guthrie?

322
00:29:42,861 --> 00:29:45,887
Woody's records
were very difficult to obtain

323
00:29:46,298 --> 00:29:49,233
They didn't have any of his records
in record stores

324
00:29:49,801 --> 00:29:53,202
<i>Paul was a scholar of folk music.
He didn't play at all.</i>

325
00:29:53,305 --> 00:29:55,500
He had a lot of records

326
00:29:55,607 --> 00:29:58,269
which probably could not be found
Anywhere else in the Midwest

327
00:29:58,376 --> 00:30:01,743
Except at Paul's house
And he lives there with someone else

328
00:30:03,748 --> 00:30:06,979
You know, I used to listen to records
at his house

329
00:30:07,085 --> 00:30:08,848
I knew they would be gone for the weekend...

330
00:30:08,954 --> 00:30:12,219
So I went there and helped myself
Get a pile of old records.

331
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,997
About 25 records "disappeared"
Mainly the records that Dylan listened to.</i>

332
00:30:20,098 --> 00:30:23,192
And pretty quickly we understood
that he took them

333
00:30:23,301 --> 00:30:27,067
These clips were very hard to find.
like hen's teeth

334
00:30:27,906 --> 00:30:30,875
, if you encounter them
....someone like me

335
00:30:30,976 --> 00:30:33,740
"who was "a musical researcher

336
00:30:33,845 --> 00:30:37,144
You know, you have to
...invest more in it

337
00:30:37,248 --> 00:30:39,341
<i>So we started trying to locate Dylan.</i>

338
00:30:39,451 --> 00:30:42,352
<i>We tried the fraternity house at the university
Where he once</i>lived

339
00:30:42,454 --> 00:30:45,912
<i>No luck there. We have another address,
And then another one..</i>

340
00:30:46,024 --> 00:30:48,754
And they all said,
"Hey guy, that kid must be popular," you know.</i>

341
00:30:48,860 --> 00:30:52,387
<i>"You're about the tenth guy looking for him"
You know, everywhere we went.</i>

342
00:30:52,497 --> 00:30:56,763
<i>And I don't know how we finally found him,
But we had a specific apartment

343
00:30:57,168 --> 00:31:00,365
You look like a John Wayne production,
which John did

344
00:31:00,472 --> 00:31:03,407
He had bowling pins there,
And he had some kind of big cigar...

345
00:31:03,508 --> 00:31:06,841
And John was 1.90 meters or something like that.

346
00:31:09,047 --> 00:31:12,539
And he never meant to hit Dylan
With the bowling pin or something...

347
00:31:12,651 --> 00:31:14,516
But he really meant to hit him.

348
00:31:14,619 --> 00:31:18,783
<i>John just started waving the bowling pin
above his head, and only says.;</i>

349
00:31:18,890 --> 00:31:21,859
<i>""I'm going to blow the hell out of you..
?"Where are my</i>records?"

350
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,760
And Dylan was frightened and very afraid
From the direction the business is moving towards

351
00:31:25,864 --> 00:31:28,833
But he kept his cool somehow...

352
00:31:30,502 --> 00:31:33,494
And somehow it worked out
into a kind of absurd drama

353
00:31:33,605 --> 00:31:35,800
They started to mention the folk

354
00:31:36,808 --> 00:31:39,971
Dylan would say something interesting,
And John was getting interested

355
00:31:40,078 --> 00:31:43,707
And they started talking, and got tired of starting
and began to like each other a little.

356
00:31:43,815 --> 00:31:45,680
Then John remembered
What is he even doing here?

357
00:31:45,784 --> 00:31:47,911
And he started swinging the bowling again.

358
00:31:48,019 --> 00:31:50,078
And they repeated the whole scene again.

359
00:32:08,273 --> 00:32:11,800
<i>I wanted to get to the east coast
to visit Woody Guthrie.</i>

360
00:32:12,410 --> 00:32:15,470
<i>When I first heard it, I didn't know
If he is even alive or already</i>dead

361
00:32:15,580 --> 00:32:18,743
But then I found out
which is definitely alive

362
00:32:18,850 --> 00:32:21,978
And he was hospitalized

363
00:32:23,254 --> 00:32:25,313
with any disease

364
00:32:26,357 --> 00:32:28,518
So I thought it would be a nice gesture
go and visit him

365
00:32:30,462 --> 00:32:34,865
Hitchhiking was a common thing
I had a bag with a guitar</i>

366
00:32:35,366 --> 00:32:38,570
<i>...and I'm not sure
I might have had like $10</i>s

367
00:33:26,951 --> 00:33:30,079
<i>Joan Buzz, she was shocking.</i>

368
00:33:30,889 --> 00:33:33,323
<i>A bit like the beat in my world
from another angle.</i>

369
00:33:36,961 --> 00:33:39,953
She only dabbled in Falk music.

370
00:33:40,598 --> 00:33:43,863
she was great
A really great guitar player.

371
00:33:44,002 --> 00:33:47,403
When I saw her on TV,
...I thought, you know, like</i>

372
00:33:47,505 --> 00:33:50,770
<i>It seems to me that this girl
Need a partner to sing with

373
00:33:51,943 --> 00:33:55,640
I'd say she was somewhere
In my subconscious, you know.

374
00:33:56,447 --> 00:33:59,939
<i>Let these words come out
...of this time and place</i>

375
00:34:00,084 --> 00:34:02,314
<i>For friend and foe alike...</i>

376
00:34:02,487 --> 00:34:06,787
<i> Know that the torch has passed
For a new generation of Americans.</i>

377
00:34:07,792 --> 00:34:12,024
<i>Don't ask what your country can do for you.</i>

378
00:34:12,130 --> 00:34:14,496
<i>Ask what you can do for your country.</i>

379
00:34:15,834 --> 00:34:17,768
<i>I got out of the car
...on the George Washington</i>Bridge

380
00:34:17,869 --> 00:34:20,099
I took the subway to the Village

381
00:34:20,205 --> 00:34:23,834
You went to Cafe Wah
I looked at the crowd.

382
00:34:23,975 --> 00:34:25,670
I probably asked from the stage

383
00:34:25,777 --> 00:34:29,269
<i>"? Does anyone know where there are people staying overnight"</i>

384
00:34:30,615 --> 00:34:35,052
<i>It was in old Greenwich Village,
which was the housing of Bohemia in the 1920</i>s

385
00:34:35,253 --> 00:34:37,619
<i>And it had a very distinguished history.</i>

386
00:34:38,256 --> 00:34:39,917
I arrived there for the first time in 1948

387
00:34:41,259 --> 00:34:42,920
...with a red bandana around his neck

388
00:34:43,027 --> 00:34:45,621
...on the subway to go to

389
00:34:45,730 --> 00:34:48,096
...to see if I can find poets

390
00:34:48,967 --> 00:34:50,491
in greenwich village

391
00:34:50,602 --> 00:34:51,864
But there were poets.

392
00:34:51,970 --> 00:34:55,929
<i>I must have arrived in the village
Around 1952 or '53. I was a child

393
00:34:57,175 --> 00:34:59,268
<i>I lived in Queens
I didn't like it that much.</i>

394
00:34:59,377 --> 00:35:01,675
And for me it was a very sophisticated place.
I loved it

395
00:35:03,915 --> 00:35:05,280
<i>At the time I was into jazz</i>

396
00:35:05,383 --> 00:35:08,716
<i>I didn't particularly like the folk music thing
I was snobby</i>

397
00:35:08,820 --> 00:35:10,845
Across the street, was the Knicks

398
00:35:10,955 --> 00:35:12,923
<i>I actually met Tony Spargo there</i>

399
00:35:13,024 --> 00:35:15,959
who was the drummer
On the first jazz records

400
00:35:16,060 --> 00:35:20,326
with the original Dixieland Jazz Band,
in 1917.

401
00:35:21,933 --> 00:35:23,893
when i was young
It was a very calm place

402
00:35:25,169 --> 00:35:30,038
<i>We mixed with different ethnic groups
"There were many of what we call "Bohemian</i>s

403
00:35:30,141 --> 00:35:32,336
<i>Doing their art, walking with their dogs.</i>

404
00:35:38,383 --> 00:35:41,875
There was a wonderful creative climate there
Although I didn't

405
00:35:41,986 --> 00:35:45,717
I was completely unaware of it
,
But it was the center of the art world

406
00:35:45,823 --> 00:35:48,223
The Pennings, the first art movements
It would happen there

407
00:35:48,526 --> 00:35:49,788
Everything was there

408
00:35:50,295 --> 00:35:52,786
Suddenly you could
Also take off your clothes

409
00:35:53,731 --> 00:35:58,532
<i>Suddenly you were free
Of all the family</i>'s bonds

410
00:35:58,803 --> 00:36:00,430
the luggage...

411
00:36:01,406 --> 00:36:04,569
of tradition, of bad tradition.

412
00:36:05,209 --> 00:36:09,578
I was looking for freedom
But freedom did not exist in all of America.

413
00:36:09,681 --> 00:36:13,481
Freedom is basically found
here in the village, in greenwich village

414
00:36:13,584 --> 00:36:16,712
<i>"America, I gave you everything,
And now I'm nothing

415
00:36:17,355 --> 00:36:22,088
<i>America 2 dollars
and twenty-seven cents January 17, 1956</i>

416
00:36:23,161 --> 00:36:25,152
<i>"I can't stand my thoughts</i>

417
00:36:25,263 --> 00:36:28,061
<i>"?America, when will we end the human war</i>

418
00:36:28,266 --> 00:36:30,393
<i>"Go to hell with your atomic bomb</i>

419
00:36:30,501 --> 00:36:32,469
<i>"I don't feel well
don't bother me</i>

420
00:36:32,570 --> 00:36:35,698
<i>"I will not write my poem
Until I'm settled in my mind"</i>

421
00:36:35,940 --> 00:36:37,737
<i>...the big break</i>

422
00:36:37,842 --> 00:36:41,334
Was in a former LGBT bar on McDougall Street...

423
00:36:42,113 --> 00:36:45,776
Formerly the McDowell Street Bar
I think it was in 58 or 59.

424
00:36:47,318 --> 00:36:49,309
"And then he was called "the lighter

425
00:36:50,521 --> 00:36:54,787
And that was the first poetry reading
In one of these types of cafe/bars...

426
00:36:54,892 --> 00:36:57,861
Kind of a folk club/cafe/bar.

427
00:36:58,496 --> 00:37:02,557
And it was so amazing
that the newspaper had an article on page 3

428
00:37:02,667 --> 00:37:06,660
<i>A whole page in the "Daily News".;
"Poets read in the cafe"</i>

429
00:37:06,771 --> 00:37:08,705
<i>"America, when will you be angelic"</i>

430
00:37:08,806 --> 00:37:10,706
<i>"When will you take off your clothes"</i>

431
00:37:10,808 --> 00:37:13,072
<i>"When will you look at yourself?
from below</i>

432
00:37:13,177 --> 00:37:16,112
<i>"</i>

433
00:37:16,214 --> 00:37:19,240
<i>“America, why your libraries
full of tears

434
00:37:22,220 --> 00:37:23,983
<i>"I'm tired of your demands.</i>

435
00:37:24,088 --> 00:37:27,421
<i>"When can I go to the supermarket and buy?"
You're what I need just for my good looks

436
00:37:27,525 --> 00:37:29,823
Down the block here was San Remo.

437
00:37:29,927 --> 00:37:31,861
And every Saturday night
You had riot</i>s

438
00:37:31,963 --> 00:37:34,193
<i>Between the Stalinists and the Trotskyists.</i>

439
00:37:34,298 --> 00:37:36,766
flying glasses, things like that

440
00:37:38,970 --> 00:37:42,633
<i>There's an old dog upstairs
that constantly hit the floor..</i>

441
00:37:43,174 --> 00:37:45,904
Threatens to call the police
all the time

442
00:37:46,010 --> 00:37:49,571
<i>We used to be here at the well
With James Baldwin, the writer.</i>

443
00:37:50,548 --> 00:37:53,016
: And he used to blow the smoke

444
00:37:53,117 --> 00:37:56,951
"! That damn Irish music"

445
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,231
And the whole place was erupting

446
00:38:26,551 --> 00:38:29,315
In Washington Square, in the early days,
It was another place</i>

447
00:38:29,420 --> 00:38:32,753
<i>for people to hang out on Sundays
and talk and play music...</i>

448
00:38:32,890 --> 00:38:35,415
<i>Kind of showing the ability
to express themselves</i>

449
00:38:35,526 --> 00:38:39,553
<i>It was a place where you could put everything together
And someone would hear... a little </i>

450
00:38:39,664 --> 00:38:41,791
There weren't many shows in those days.

451
00:38:59,884 --> 00:39:03,479
<i>People started playing small gigs
'In those Wilig</i>cafes

452
00:39:03,588 --> 00:39:05,215
<i. We called them basket houses

453
00:39:05,323 --> 00:39:08,815
They didn't pay a penny but we were
Passing a basket of bread in the crowd

454
00:39:08,926 --> 00:39:11,258
after the set
People threw some coins into the basket

455
00:39:11,362 --> 00:39:14,229
Then we would pack up our guitars
and move on to the next club

456
00:39:26,310 --> 00:39:30,644
<i>They put the singers in between
The poets, to excite the place, actually</i>

457
00:39:30,915 --> 00:39:32,177
...then you accept

458
00:39:34,018 --> 00:39:36,179
Three songs, you can perform three songs

459
00:39:36,287 --> 00:39:37,618
...and what came out of it

460
00:39:37,722 --> 00:39:41,249
If at the end of your three songs
...someone was still sitting

461
00:39:41,359 --> 00:39:45,193
Fired from the place
Because you didn't do your job

462
00:39:45,563 --> 00:39:50,000
Needless to say, we were not fired.
We could do that

463
00:40:10,688 --> 00:40:13,179
<i>?And when we played in the city, who was the audience?
</i>

464
00:40:13,291 --> 00:40:16,055
<i>Who were the people who went?
?Up and down McDougall Street</i>

465
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:17,320
<i>There were a lot of them</i>

466
00:40:17,428 --> 00:40:21,524
Some of them were people from the suburbs
Come to see the strange scene</i>

467
00:40:21,632 --> 00:40:23,632
Some of them were from the city
who came to see the strange phenomenon
</i>

468
00:40:23,734 --> 00:40:25,065
<i>And some of them were the strange phenomenon itself</i>

469
00:40:25,436 --> 00:40:29,395
It was not clear who the audience was
And who is the singer here?

470
00:40:29,507 --> 00:40:32,670
Because maybe half the audience
If they had their own drummer

471
00:40:32,777 --> 00:40:35,974
They themselves would go up to sing on stage
It was very interesting

472
00:40:43,475 --> 00:40:50,375
Bob Dylan's first video in New York

473
00:41:03,708 --> 00:41:05,642
<i>I was ready for New York</i>

474
00:41:13,084 --> 00:41:16,110
<i>I started playing right away
And I understood very quickly</i>

475
00:41:16,220 --> 00:41:20,782
<i>I came to the right place
Because there were a lot of places to play</i>in

476
00:41:26,697 --> 00:41:30,189
<i>I played with Freddie Neal
He was a big star there</i>

477
00:41:30,334 --> 00:41:33,269
<i>I did up to about 8</i>

478
00:41:33,371 --> 00:41:35,703
<i>The place was usually packed
From 12.00 to 8.00...</i>

479
00:41:35,806 --> 00:41:38,536
<i>"in tourists and secretaries" lunch hours</i>

480
00:41:38,643 --> 00:41:42,875
And then at 20:00 the whole place opens

481
00:41:43,014 --> 00:41:45,244
With the transfer of the basket and the performances

482
00:41:45,349 --> 00:41:47,579
<i>listen listen </i>

483
00:41:47,685 --> 00:41:50,620
<i>were in the street on the sidewalk
Guys who announced the show</i>on the street

484
00:41:50,721 --> 00:41:52,712
<i>"You know, you have to come in here
"And see it</i>

485
00:41:52,823 --> 00:41:55,257
<i>"There are so many oddities here
You've never seen anything like this in your life."</i>

486
00:41:55,359 --> 00:41:57,327
<i>And always will be
People who come and go</i>

487
00:41:57,428 --> 00:41:59,658
<i>I studied at Oxford University...</i>

488
00:41:59,764 --> 00:42:02,324
<i>I did my research
...in the British Museum</i>

489
00:42:02,466 --> 00:42:05,401
<i>and matriculate at Brooklyn College.</i>

490
00:42:05,536 --> 00:42:08,027
Dust on the floor, tourist traps

491
00:42:08,205 --> 00:42:12,437
<i>Like, a poet, someone sings a song
With a parrot on his shoulder</i>

492
00:42:12,543 --> 00:42:14,374
<i>tiny characters of the Tim type.</i>

493
00:42:14,478 --> 00:42:17,345
<i></i>

494
00:42:17,748 --> 00:42:19,613
You only played them if you had to.

495
00:42:25,456 --> 00:42:28,584
<i>You had to
make an impression on someone </i>

496
00:42:28,826 --> 00:42:30,919
<i>There were a lot of singers who were
very good</i>

497
00:42:31,028 --> 00:42:33,028
<i>But they did not attract attention
from someone</i>

498
00:42:34,298 --> 00:42:36,994
They weren't really
Able to get into someone's head

499
00:42:42,606 --> 00:42:45,097
<i>You must be interesting
Fascinating </i>

500
00:42:45,376 --> 00:42:49,813
<i>I remember him because he was different
He would play Woody Guthrie</i>'s songs

501
00:42:50,448 --> 00:42:53,815
<i>He had a brimmed hat and a bracelet</i>

502
00:42:53,918 --> 00:42:57,354
You see quality and determination

503
00:42:57,455 --> 00:42:59,423
And when there is a will to some of the people

504
00:43:00,891 --> 00:43:03,883
when they do something
They really do it

505
00:43:03,994 --> 00:43:06,485
And you know that now
You have to pay attention to them

506
00:43:08,966 --> 00:43:12,458
<i>I first met Bob in the winter of 1961.</i>

507
00:43:12,636 --> 00:43:15,332
<i>We were embarrassed.
Neither of us really knew what to</i>say

508
00:43:16,507 --> 00:43:18,975
to break the ice
He pulled out this card

509
00:43:19,076 --> 00:43:22,534
And he moved his leg like that
And he just handed me the card

510
00:43:22,646 --> 00:43:25,342
and after he handed it over to me
She took a quick look

511
00:43:25,449 --> 00:43:28,179
as if continuing
Talk about Woody Guthrie

512
00:43:28,285 --> 00:43:32,881
And it was written on the card
I'm Not Dead Yet Signed Woody Guthrie

513
00:43:33,324 --> 00:43:37,954
And it was literally Woody Guthrie's handwriting
I think so, because Bob said so

514
00:43:38,396 --> 00:43:40,762
<i>Like, Woody was very important
for both of us
</i>

515
00:43:40,865 --> 00:43:43,629
<i>Bob wanted more than me to be
Like Woody Guthrie</i>'s

516
00:43:43,734 --> 00:43:46,601
<i>He managed to adopt
A kind of theatrical character about himself</i>

517
00:43:46,704 --> 00:43:50,834
In fact, the first time I met him,
He really played a role, in a sense

518
00:43:52,543 --> 00:43:55,706
And it was good because you can
Go anywhere when you're someone else

519
00:43:56,147 --> 00:44:00,083
<i>Cinderella, looks easy to get</i>

520
00:44:00,184 --> 00:44:03,745
"It only takes one to know one"
she is smiling

521
00:44:04,588 --> 00:44:08,115
<i>and puts her hands in her back pockets</i>

522
00:44:09,393 --> 00:44:12,021
<i>like Betty Davis</i>

523
00:44:12,763 --> 00:44:16,028
<i>Here enters Romeo, he groans</i>

524
00:44:16,467 --> 00:44:19,959
<i>"I believe you belong to me"</i>

525
00:44:21,005 --> 00:44:24,441
<i>and someone turns around and tells him</i>

526
00:44:24,542 --> 00:44:27,978
<i>"Hey friend, you should leave"</i>

527
00:44:29,013 --> 00:44:32,574
<i>and the only sound left</i>

528
00:44:33,617 --> 00:44:36,643
<i>after the ambulance left</i>

529
00:44:37,555 --> 00:44:41,116
<i>This is Cinderella's broom</i>

530
00:44:41,225 --> 00:44:44,456
<i>On the wilderness road</i>

531
00:44:47,465 --> 00:44:50,957
<i>Now the moon is almost entirely hidden</i>

532
00:44:52,136 --> 00:44:55,628
<i>The stars, they're just pretending to hide</i>

533
00:44:56,340 --> 00:44:59,605
<i>Fortune teller lady</i>

534
00:44:59,877 --> 00:45:03,404
<i>Has already taken all her things inside</i>

535
00:45:03,981 --> 00:45:06,779
<i>Everyone except Cain and Abel</i>

536
00:45:08,252 --> 00:45:11,710
<i>And the Hunchback of Notre Dame</i>

537
00:45:12,890 --> 00:45:16,018
<i>Everyone makes love or</i>

538
00:45:16,126 --> 00:45:19,459
<i>or expecting rain</i>

539
00:45:20,431 --> 00:45:24,060
<i>And the Good Samaritan, he dresses</i>

540
00:45:24,335 --> 00:45:28,203
<i>He is getting ready for the show</i>

541
00:45:28,706 --> 00:45:32,403
<i>He's going to the carnival tonight</i>

542
00:45:32,510 --> 00:45:35,911
<i>on the wasteland avenue</i>

543
00:45:37,248 --> 00:45:39,443
- I want to see this person right away.
- What?

544
00:45:39,550 --> 00:45:41,040
The one who wants to shoot me

545
00:45:43,254 --> 00:45:45,347
?How did you find out, Albert?

546
00:45:50,027 --> 00:45:52,359
He called reception
and said they were going to shoot me.

547
00:45:52,463 --> 00:45:53,657
?Do they do this often?

548
00:45:55,199 --> 00:45:59,067
I don't care if he gets shot, man
But I'm not keen on being found out about it.

549
00:46:01,105 --> 00:46:02,766
Man, I can't believe it.

550
00:46:02,907 --> 00:46:06,604
- Don't worry, Mickey. I will protect you
- I hope so

551
00:46:06,810 --> 00:46:07,810
.

552
00:46:11,649 --> 00:46:15,050
Don't tell me not to overdo it, man.
I'm worried I'll get shot.

553
00:46:15,152 --> 00:46:16,949
I'm not exaggerating

554
00:46:32,536 --> 00:46:35,096
<i>Obviously he called Woody Guthrie </i>

555
00:46:35,205 --> 00:46:37,799
He really channeled him
and everything related to it.

556
00:46:37,908 --> 00:46:41,139
And I think that was part of his way
find who he was in the end

557
00:46:42,379 --> 00:46:45,246
By imitating and imitating Woody Guthrie.

558
00:46:48,919 --> 00:46:53,253
So I found out where Woody Guthrie was,
And I took a bus to Morristown

559
00:46:53,357 --> 00:46:55,825
<i>Basically, I think it was an insane asylum.</i>

560
00:46:55,926 --> 00:46:59,327
<i>I thought about it later, it was a sad thing,
They put him in a mental institution

561
00:46:59,430 --> 00:47:01,295
<i>Only because he had tremors.</i>

562
00:47:07,204 --> 00:47:10,002
<i>He asked for certain songs
And I played them</i>for him

563
00:47:11,241 --> 00:47:14,699
I was young and easily influenced
And I think I must have been shocked

564
00:47:14,812 --> 00:47:17,975
in some way
find it in the condition i found it.

565
00:47:33,428 --> 00:47:36,886
<i>Brother John Sellers, he was
Master of Ceremonies at Grady Folk City.</i>

566
00:47:37,232 --> 00:47:41,032
And there was one night called
Hotnani Lila" where anyone can perform."

567
00:48:02,457 --> 00:48:04,322
<i>We used to go there every Monday evening.</i>

568
00:48:05,894 --> 00:48:09,057
Peter Lafarge, who was
Kind of an Indian cowboy.

569
00:48:09,164 --> 00:48:11,029
and Cisco Houston

570
00:48:11,132 --> 00:48:14,295
Much of Woody Guthrie's old audience
still hanging around there.

571
00:48:19,874 --> 00:48:24,538
<i>We just watched and chose
Which of the artists did it well?

572
00:48:24,646 --> 00:48:28,742
And we tried to grasp the essence
in what they did

573
00:48:29,250 --> 00:48:33,152
We were all interested to see
What is that guy doing on stage...

574
00:48:33,254 --> 00:48:35,381
because there was
Much more to learn

575
00:48:35,490 --> 00:48:38,482
Except for songs or choosing styles

576
00:48:47,635 --> 00:48:50,126
<i>Dave Van Ronk,
He had this bleak</i>thing

577
00:48:50,238 --> 00:48:54,504
<i>But he had this sweet, sensitive thing
which takes place at the very same time </i>

578
00:48:54,609 --> 00:48:56,873
<i>He was an artist who presented two sides.</i>

579
00:49:02,450 --> 00:49:04,850
<i>He can take the essence of the song...</i>

580
00:49:04,953 --> 00:49:08,047
<i>and go only after that,
"Don't go after the "decorations</i>

581
00:49:08,723 --> 00:49:11,590
Monday nights
...Bob Dylan used to go there</i>

582
00:49:11,693 --> 00:49:13,593
<i>And he's always, like...</i>

583
00:49:13,695 --> 00:49:17,096
He usually just hung out there

584
00:49:17,198 --> 00:49:20,292
"Sometimes you wanted to tell him, "Go away

585
00:49:50,498 --> 00:49:52,591
Liam was deep.

586
00:49:54,035 --> 00:49:56,469
Except for all his protest songs

587
00:49:57,372 --> 00:50:00,102
, and his acting career
He had these amazing sayings

588
00:50:00,208 --> 00:50:04,508
Like this time he told me
...after about 30 liters of Guinness

589
00:50:04,612 --> 00:50:07,547
"He said, "Remember, Bob, don't worry

590
00:50:08,149 --> 00:50:10,049
"No jealousy, no negligence."

591
00:50:11,519 --> 00:50:13,714
"I said, "Right

592
00:50:48,690 --> 00:50:52,217
<i>What I Heard on the Clancy Brothers
There was enthusiasm, rebel songs</i>

593
00:50:52,660 --> 00:50:55,151
N in scope.

594
00:50:55,763 --> 00:50:58,994
And they were like
Such</i>musketeer characters

595
00:50:59,233 --> 00:51:03,761
<i>And then on the second level you had them
... romantic ballads that are simple</i>

596
00:51:04,272 --> 00:51:09,141
<i>
The sweetness of Tommy McCam and Liam.</i>

597
00:51:09,510 --> 00:51:13,037
<i>, it was like, take a sword
...cut off your head, and then cry</i>

598
00:51:13,848 --> 00:51:16,339
<i>That was about it</i>

599
00:51:49,517 --> 00:51:52,111
<i>...all the great performers I've seen</i>

600
00:51:52,220 --> 00:51:54,916
The one I wanted to be like
The artists</i>were of this type

601
00:51:55,022 --> 00:51:56,455
<i>They all had one common denominator</i>

602
00:51:56,557 --> 00:52:01,085
It was in their eyes

603
00:52:01,496 --> 00:52:03,726
Now, there was something in their eyes
: that he would say

604
00:52:03,831 --> 00:52:07,232
"I know something you don't,"
And I wanted to be such a performing artist

605
00:52:23,384 --> 00:52:26,683
<i>I am a man of perpetual sorrow</i>

606
00:52:26,788 --> 00:52:30,588
<i>I have seen trouble all my days</i>

607
00:52:35,963 --> 00:52:39,797
<i>I say hello to Colorado</i>

608
00:52:40,201 --> 00:52:44,069
<i>Where I was born and raised </i>

609
00:53:02,790 --> 00:53:07,284
<i>through this open world
I'm definitely rambling</i>

610
00:53:07,695 --> 00:53:11,495
<i>through ice and snow, rain and hail</i>

611
00:53:16,103 --> 00:53:19,903
<i>I will probably take the train that morning</i>

612
00:53:20,007 --> 00:53:24,034
<i>I might die on that train</i>

613
00:53:44,165 --> 00:53:47,657
<i>He was playing at some party or something
And he looks like a completely different</i>guy

614
00:53:47,768 --> 00:53:49,565
You hear these stories
...about the blues people

615
00:53:49,670 --> 00:53:52,537
that go out to the intersection
...and sell their souls to the devil

616
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,699
returning,
And suddenly able to create matter

617
00:53:54,809 --> 00:53:58,040
Robert Johnson, Tommy Johnson
,
All this mythology.

618
00:53:58,145 --> 00:54:00,443
It was one of those kinds of deals, almost.

619
00:54:00,548 --> 00:54:02,914
When he left Minneapolis
He was just average</i>

620
00:54:03,017 --> 00:54:05,884
<i>There were five, six other guys
who did the same</i>thing

621
00:54:05,987 --> 00:54:07,955
<i>"When he came back he did "Woody</i>

622
00:54:08,055 --> 00:54:10,683
And he made Van Ronk
And he specialized in fingers.

623
00:54:10,791 --> 00:54:13,988
He played the harmonica
,
And it's just a matter of a few months.

624
00:54:14,095 --> 00:54:16,996
I mean, it's not that he is
Gone for a year or so.

625
00:54:17,098 --> 00:54:20,261
He disappeared for a few months
...and probably, what he got into

626
00:54:20,368 --> 00:54:24,361
He got into it so intensely
He was like a real interesting performer.

627
00:54:25,072 --> 00:54:28,200
So I went to a crossroads
And I made a big deal out of it

628
00:54:28,476 --> 00:54:30,068
...you know, like

629
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,844
One night and then
...back to Minneapolis

630
00:54:36,951 --> 00:54:39,749
?” and it was like, “Hey, where was this guy

631
00:54:40,855 --> 00:54:43,153
"You were at a crossroads."

632
00:54:57,038 --> 00:54:58,699
<i>I never saw Woody Guthrie again</i>

633
00:54:58,806 --> 00:55:00,446
<i>I still sang a lot of his songs</i>

634
00:55:00,508 --> 00:55:03,671
...but I replaced them with
A lot of the other songs.... suddenly

635
00:55:03,778 --> 00:55:06,144
<i>I actually went through Woody Guthrie
A kind of stop on the way.</i>

636
00:55:06,247 --> 00:55:08,327
<i> But I didn't really want to
Go through Woody Guthrie</i>'s

637
00:55:08,382 --> 00:55:12,045
I didn't want to feel that
There was something negligible

638
00:55:12,153 --> 00:55:15,816
<i>Hey Hey Woody Guthrie
I wrote a song</i>for you

639
00:55:18,626 --> 00:55:22,392
<i>About an old and funny world that came
and progressive</i>

640
00:55:25,166 --> 00:55:29,830
<i>Looks sick and hungry
And tired and torn</i>

641
00:55:32,073 --> 00:55:36,601
<i> It looks like he's dying </i>

642
00:55:36,711 --> 00:55:38,906
<i>and barely born</i>

643
00:55:39,146 --> 00:55:44,049
I really cared, I really wanted to
describe my gratitude towards him in some way

644
00:55:44,385 --> 00:55:48,014
<i>But I knew I wouldn't come back
More to Greystone</i>'s

645
00:55:50,257 --> 00:55:54,785
I felt I had to write the song
I didn't think of myself as a songwriter at all

646
00:55:55,129 --> 00:55:59,828
But I had to write it
And I had to sing it

647
00:56:01,035 --> 00:56:03,435
That's why I had to write it

648
00:56:03,537 --> 00:56:07,405
Because it hasn't been written yet and that's what
I had to say, I had to say it

649
00:56:07,508 --> 00:56:11,501
<i> I will mention Cisco and Sony
And you're next to the chubby one too
</i>

650
00:56:14,382 --> 00:56:18,478
And to all the good people
who traveled with you</i>

651
00:56:21,355 --> 00:56:25,086
<i>Cheer the hearts
And the people</i>'s hands

652
00:56:27,795 --> 00:56:32,323
<i>that came with the dust</i>

653
00:56:32,433 --> 00:56:34,867
<i>and others faded in the wind</i>

654
00:56:36,003 --> 00:56:37,197
<i>So this guy walked in on me</i>

655
00:56:37,304 --> 00:56:41,934
He doesn't seem too arrogant.
I don't find him too interesting

656
00:56:42,043 --> 00:56:44,204
...he doesn't look wild either

657
00:56:44,578 --> 00:56:47,342
He looks like a normal kid

658
00:56:48,182 --> 00:56:50,912
He had no commanding presence

659
00:56:51,786 --> 00:56:56,086
And he says, "Listen, I have some songs
"I wanted you to hear

660
00:56:56,223 --> 00:56:58,282
So I said, "Oh, for God's sake"
?You can come tomorrow

661
00:56:58,392 --> 00:57:01,190
I say, "Go away."
And he says, "No, I want to sing you a song

662
00:57:01,295 --> 00:57:03,559
So I let him sing the song,
And then I throw him out

663
00:57:03,664 --> 00:57:05,689
And then it comes back again and again

664
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,702
Then I started signaling to people, I said
"?Listen, see this guy in the back room"

665
00:57:09,804 --> 00:57:12,068
His name is Bob Dylan
And you must hear him

666
00:57:12,173 --> 00:57:14,053
The guy writes good songs"
"He's great

667
00:57:14,875 --> 00:57:16,809
<i>He told me he never knew
"The concept of "folk music".

668
00:57:16,911 --> 00:57:18,951
<i>...before he came to New York
What nonsense, God...</i>

669
00:57:20,581 --> 00:57:23,621
And he had never seen anyone play
on the banjo before he came to New York

670
00:57:23,651 --> 00:57:26,313
I mean, he never saw all these things
before he came to New York.

671
00:57:26,420 --> 00:57:29,048
It opened his eyes wide
Understand what folk music is

672
00:57:29,156 --> 00:57:31,556
After living on the Mississippi River
and everything

673
00:57:31,659 --> 00:57:36,221
I was born in Duluth, Minnesota, in 1941.
I moved to Gallup, New Mexico

674
00:57:36,363 --> 00:57:38,058
From then until today

675
00:57:39,266 --> 00:57:43,168
I lived in Iowa, South Dakota, Kansas
I lived in North Dakota for a while

676
00:57:43,504 --> 00:57:47,600
I started playing in carnivals
When I was 14, with a guitar and a piano

677
00:57:47,708 --> 00:57:50,142
"Erol Gray taught me blues songs...

678
00:57:50,244 --> 00:57:53,111
A blind street singer from Chicago,
About four or five years ago.

679
00:57:53,214 --> 00:57:56,980
I once knew a guy named
Mance Lipscomb, of Navasota, Texas.

680
00:57:57,084 --> 00:58:00,850
I listened to him a lot. I knew him
Through his grandson, Rock'n'Roller

681
00:58:00,955 --> 00:58:04,288
Now, I was listening to Arvella Gray in Chicago...

682
00:58:04,391 --> 00:58:06,188
Mance Lipscomb in Texas...

683
00:58:06,293 --> 00:58:08,955
I should have understood immediately
He scratches me

684
00:58:09,063 --> 00:58:11,327
And only later did I find out

685
00:58:11,665 --> 00:58:14,725
that he borrowed 400 records
From Tony Glover...

686
00:58:14,835 --> 00:58:18,134
or something like that
But still haven't returned them

687
00:58:18,239 --> 00:58:20,230
And more stories like that

688
00:58:20,708 --> 00:58:24,439
I was innocent, it was easy to deceive me
But I'm proud of it

689
00:58:24,545 --> 00:58:27,514
Because the guy generally wrote good songs.
I didn't care what he was telling me.

690
00:58:27,748 --> 00:58:29,909
<i>I saw this posted one day</i>

691
00:58:30,017 --> 00:58:32,451
<i>A river boat trip will pass close to me</i>

692
00:58:32,553 --> 00:58:34,646
<i>Come with us, please join the trip</i>

693
00:58:34,755 --> 00:58:37,485
<i>We will take you there by ship</i>

694
00:58:38,058 --> 00:58:40,390
<i>Bring the wife and children</i>

695
00:58:41,395 --> 00:58:42,760
<i>Fun for everyone</i>

696
00:58:43,964 --> 00:58:44,964
<i>yip</i>

697
00:58:46,801 --> 00:58:49,429
<i>The owner of the place
Finally gave me the stage for two weeks.</i>

698
00:58:51,205 --> 00:58:52,763
<i>He put me on as a warm-up for John Lee Hawker</i>

699
00:58:52,873 --> 00:58:55,137
<i>Well, I don't think it's that funny</i>

700
00:58:55,242 --> 00:58:58,541
<i>What are some of these people?
Going to do it for money</i>

701
00:58:58,646 --> 00:59:01,274
<i> There's a new gimmick every day</i>

702
00:59:01,382 --> 00:59:03,441
<i>Just to take someone's money </i>

703
00:59:03,551 --> 00:59:06,179
I didn't really feel it
That I take a step forward everywhere

704
00:59:06,420 --> 00:59:09,082
Things took their natural course

705
00:59:10,724 --> 00:59:12,692
<i>Now, November 4,
Bob Dylan Live</i>

706
00:59:14,195 --> 00:59:16,390
<i>And this should be a significant event</i>

707
00:59:16,497 --> 00:59:18,362
<i>Bob was born in Duluth, Minnesota...</i>

708
00:59:18,465 --> 00:59:21,161
But, Bob, you didn't grow up in Duluth,
?Where have you been?

709
00:59:21,268 --> 00:59:24,203
<i>I grew up in Gallup, New Mexico.</i>

710
00:59:24,338 --> 00:59:26,101
<i>?And take a lot of songs from there</i>

711
00:59:26,207 --> 00:59:28,607
There are a lot of cowboy songs
Indian songs

712
00:59:28,709 --> 00:59:30,973
<i>Well, I'm going to get you, Sally Gal</i>

713
00:59:31,078 --> 00:59:32,978
<i>I'll catch you, Sally Gal</i>

714
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,105
<i>I'll catch you, Sally Gal</i>

715
00:59:35,216 --> 00:59:36,979
<i>I'll catch you, Sally Gal</i>

716
00:59:37,084 --> 00:59:40,918
At first I had no ambitions
Until I started working more and more

717
00:59:41,021 --> 00:59:44,980
I was wondering how people record.
I was wondering how you manage to do that.

718
00:59:45,092 --> 00:59:48,823
There have always been talent scouts
in clubs

719
00:59:48,929 --> 00:59:52,092
No one ever spoke to me directly
About recording and releasing an album

720
00:59:52,199 --> 00:59:54,224
So I just assumed they skipped me

721
00:59:59,340 --> 01:00:02,468
The new and most important vocal personality
of recent years

722
01:00:03,477 --> 01:00:08,176
<i>Johnny Mathis, recorded
At Columbia Studios he became a star

723
01:00:12,519 --> 01:00:16,114
I was always looking for songs that have them
Kind of excellence, lasting quality

724
01:00:16,223 --> 01:00:20,216
and artists who produced
Beautiful sound with their voice

725
01:00:20,394 --> 01:00:24,160
From 1953 I was head of department
in Columbia AandR</i>

726
01:00:42,816 --> 01:00:44,283
<i>That was the sound of the day.</i>

727
01:00:44,385 --> 01:00:48,287
People would like to hear
A beautiful voice singing a melodious song

728
01:00:48,455 --> 01:00:50,616
?John, are you going to play, or me?
you will

729
01:00:50,724 --> 01:00:54,160
<i>"In order. I will play "Ish of Sorrow
with the auto-rap</i>

730
01:01:07,441 --> 01:01:08,874
<i>We recorded for Folkways</i>

731
01:01:08,976 --> 01:01:12,173
We lived in the clear and pure light
"of the "anti-commercial

732
01:01:12,279 --> 01:01:14,873
Long-player records that are sold at reduced prices
For folk listeners

733
01:01:14,982 --> 01:01:18,247
I learned it from a record that came out
Down in the southern mountains

734
01:01:18,352 --> 01:01:20,149
In the late 1920s

735
01:01:20,254 --> 01:01:23,985
<i>It seems that we also represent
What an idea about.... excuse the phrase</i>

736
01:01:24,091 --> 01:01:28,027
Integrity, or support for something
authentic or real in music

737
01:01:35,536 --> 01:01:37,766
We have always been inspired by other people's music

738
01:01:37,871 --> 01:01:41,500
<i> veteran singers,
Appalachian singers, blues</i>singers

739
01:01:41,742 --> 01:01:44,302
...I think we were set up as

740
01:01:46,246 --> 01:01:47,338
The virtues page

741
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,490
In the field of folk songs
Or there were commercial</i>songs

742
01:02:02,596 --> 01:02:06,760
'which are intended for an audience like in college
Harry Belafonte, The Four Brothers

743
01:02:06,867 --> 01:02:10,894
Famous... they released records
which were in the pop charts

744
01:02:11,572 --> 01:02:14,564
And then you had the other side in Polk,
who was intellectual

745
01:02:14,675 --> 01:02:17,701
Craftsmen just sat there
...you know, I think

746
01:02:18,579 --> 01:02:22,675
and played around
that I played it

747
01:02:22,983 --> 01:02:24,416
There was none of these (commercial)

748
01:02:24,852 --> 01:02:28,754
I took it to a record company
And it is written here in my notebook

749
01:02:28,856 --> 01:02:31,324
And there they treated him like garbage.
They refused to talk to him

750
01:02:31,425 --> 01:02:33,950
And he writes, “Oh
"I think I came to the wrong place

751
01:02:34,061 --> 01:02:36,621
<i>"!Sing outside the door"
</i>

752
01:02:36,730 --> 01:02:39,858
Mo Ash, Erwin Zilber, fired him
Throw him out into the street

753
01:02:39,967 --> 01:02:42,367
And he really felt bad about it
And I felt bad about it too

754
01:02:42,469 --> 01:02:45,802
I don't get to push talents every day
I've only pushed two people in my life

755
01:02:45,906 --> 01:02:50,707
I'm taking him to Maynard Solomon
.on Vanguard records

756
01:02:51,745 --> 01:02:53,440
"And they said "No

757
01:02:53,981 --> 01:02:57,678
Many years later I asked him
"? Why did you refuse him?"

758
01:02:57,951 --> 01:03:01,409
And he said, “Well, Izzy, we don't
Freak recorders (discarded)

759
01:03:01,522 --> 01:03:04,218
"I said, "I understand. Joan Buzz, not a freak

760
01:03:04,324 --> 01:03:06,952
other people don't
"No one's a freak, only Bob Dylan

761
01:03:07,227 --> 01:03:09,422
<i>I stood in the crowd
With Maynard Solomon</i>

762
01:03:09,530 --> 01:03:12,522
?Maynard says, “What do you think of him
I said, "That's good"

763
01:03:12,900 --> 01:03:16,070
?I said, "And what do you think of him?"
He says, "It's too deep

764
01:03:55,943 --> 01:03:59,743
John discovered Billie Holiday,
Blind Boy Fuller, Lena Horne

765
01:03:59,847 --> 01:04:01,178
Kant Basie.

766
01:04:01,281 --> 01:04:05,479
Yeah, he was like a Damon Runyon character
If you can define it that way

767
01:04:05,586 --> 01:04:08,612
One of those Broadway veterans
With a buzz-cut haircut

768
01:04:08,722 --> 01:04:11,657
He was unusual in many ways
He was very enthusiastic

769
01:04:11,758 --> 01:04:14,852
<i>He had a great love for music
And it just radiated from him</i>

770
01:04:14,962 --> 01:04:17,795
<i>When I met him, at that time a review was published about me
in the New York Times</i>

771
01:04:17,898 --> 01:04:20,366
<i>Besides the performance, I also played for Gerda
the night before</i>

772
01:04:20,467 --> 01:04:23,197
<i>Hammond saw the article
...and immediately asked me there</i>

773
01:04:23,303 --> 01:04:26,170
<i>If I want to record
"in "Columbia</i>

774
01:04:26,273 --> 01:04:30,835
I thought it was almost unreal
I mean, no one will think that

775
01:04:31,979 --> 01:04:35,415
That kind of folk music...
(?) Recorded in Colombia

776
01:04:35,682 --> 01:04:38,310
John called me at my office in Columbia

777
01:04:38,418 --> 01:04:40,716
He says, "Come,
"I want you to hear something

778
01:04:40,821 --> 01:04:43,255
<i>He didn't tell me who it was or anything.
I go down</i>

779
01:04:43,357 --> 01:04:47,623
<i>There is this boy, all dressed up
With the boots and suede</i>jacket

780
01:04:47,728 --> 01:04:49,195
<i>and the harmonica was on him</i>

781
01:04:49,296 --> 01:04:52,788
And he sings
In that voice, you know, rough.</i>

782
01:04:53,300 --> 01:04:56,997
I admit I didn't see it
his greatness

783
01:04:57,104 --> 01:04:59,299
In Colombia they recorded at the time
popular hits

784
01:04:59,406 --> 01:05:02,170
of artists who usually
Sing with beautiful tones of voices

785
01:05:02,276 --> 01:05:06,610
with great preparations

786
01:05:07,981 --> 01:05:11,610
I don't know what they were thinking
On my stuff up there

787
01:05:11,718 --> 01:05:16,121
He has no voice, I mean
It does not produce a nice sound.

788
01:05:16,223 --> 01:05:20,853
I was used to discovering guys
Like Bennett and Damon and Mathis

789
01:05:20,961 --> 01:05:25,193
But when someone like John Hammond
...so confident in someone's talent

790
01:05:25,299 --> 01:05:29,429
You have to respect that
For no other reason than his experience

791
01:05:30,003 --> 01:05:32,267
I didn't tell anyone for a while

792
01:05:32,372 --> 01:05:35,671
Because I wasn't sure
It happens to me myself

793
01:05:39,279 --> 01:05:42,646
I don't think I actually told anyone
...until actually

794
01:05:44,017 --> 01:05:45,507
I started with rehearsals

795
01:05:46,386 --> 01:05:48,820
<i>I first heard it from Rick von Schmidt</i>

796
01:05:51,158 --> 01:05:53,023
<i>'He lives in Cambridge</i>

797
01:05:53,393 --> 01:05:55,918
<i>...I met him one day in</i>

798
01:05:57,197 --> 01:06:00,064
<i>The green lawns of Harvard University</i>

799
01:06:00,901 --> 01:06:04,098
<i>I have an acquired habit
Somewhere along the</i>way

800
01:06:04,271 --> 01:06:08,401
, which works well for me
...don't give up on him

801
01:06:09,643 --> 01:06:11,110
That easily, you see...

802
01:06:11,678 --> 01:06:14,203
<i>Baby, let me go with you</i>

803
01:06:15,182 --> 01:06:17,844
<i>Baby, let me go with you</i>

804
01:06:18,252 --> 01:06:21,779
<i>Well, I'll do anything
In the world of God Almighty

805
01:06:21,888 --> 01:06:24,448
<i>If you only let me go with you </i>

806
01:06:24,625 --> 01:06:26,855
When I made the first record

807
01:06:27,728 --> 01:06:32,290
I recorded songs that were new to me
I haven't performed with them much yet

808
01:06:32,633 --> 01:06:35,932
I just wanted to record stuff
It was a lot for me

809
01:06:36,036 --> 01:06:37,094
<i>and then see what happens </i>

810
01:06:37,204 --> 01:06:40,230
<i>There is a house</i>

811
01:06:40,574 --> 01:06:43,168
<i>in New Orleans</i>

812
01:06:44,678 --> 01:06:49,274
<i>"which is called "The House of the Rising Sun</i>

813
01:06:51,885 --> 01:06:55,377
<i>And he was the ruin</i>

814
01:06:55,722 --> 01:06:58,452
<i> of lots of poor girls</i>

815
01:06:59,459 --> 01:07:04,123
<i>And I, oh, Eli, I'm only one</i>

816
01:07:04,531 --> 01:07:06,556
"House of the Rising Sun"
found on this record

817
01:07:06,667 --> 01:07:07,895
I have never performed this song

818
01:07:08,001 --> 01:07:10,492
But I heard it every night
Because Van Ronk would appear with him.

819
01:07:11,071 --> 01:07:15,804
I thought he was really onto something
With this song, then I recorded it

820
01:07:16,243 --> 01:07:18,734
Bobby took the chord structure

821
01:07:20,013 --> 01:07:22,743
of the song, from me

822
01:07:24,751 --> 01:07:29,450
...It really changed the song considerably
Although the words were already there

823
01:07:30,791 --> 01:07:33,316
More or less
The lyrics of the house of the rising sun

824
01:07:33,427 --> 01:07:35,258
And so is the melody.

825
01:07:36,396 --> 01:07:39,888
And when he performed it
I think it was on his first album

826
01:07:41,535 --> 01:07:45,096
He asked me if it bothered me

827
01:07:45,205 --> 01:07:48,663
<i>that he would record my version
to the house of the rising sun

828
01:07:50,377 --> 01:07:53,835
And I already had plans to record it myself

829
01:07:53,947 --> 01:07:57,110
So I said, "Look, Bob
...I'd rather not

830
01:07:57,217 --> 01:08:00,050
"Because I'm getting ready to record it myself soon"

831
01:08:00,587 --> 01:08:02,487
And Bobby said, "Oh, oh."

832
01:08:05,459 --> 01:08:08,895
<i>The mystery of presence in the recording studio
do me something</i>

833
01:08:08,995 --> 01:08:10,587
<i>And these are the songs that came out</i>

834
01:08:10,697 --> 01:08:13,257
<i>Now, the only thing</i>

835
01:08:14,101 --> 01:08:16,569
<i>that a gambler should</i>

836
01:08:18,071 --> 01:08:22,337
<i>is a suitcase and a trunk</i>

837
01:08:24,878 --> 01:08:27,608
After Bob recorded it
I had to stop playing it

838
01:08:27,714 --> 01:08:30,080
Because people consistently

839
01:08:32,686 --> 01:08:36,144
I was accused of taking the song
From Bobby's record

840
01:08:36,823 --> 01:08:41,089
And it was a very disturbing thing

841
01:08:41,628 --> 01:08:44,620
But I couldn't blame him
And I don't

842
01:08:45,232 --> 01:08:46,927
The whole thing was a storm in a teacup

843
01:08:47,033 --> 01:08:51,902
Later, when Eric Bardon and the Animals
They took the song from Bobby

844
01:08:52,873 --> 01:08:56,036
And record it, Bob told me
that he had to give up the song

845
01:08:56,143 --> 01:08:59,806
Because everyone now blamed him
which is the one copying from Eric and the Animals

846
01:09:00,580 --> 01:09:02,775
<i>I feel strange in my mind, my God</i>

847
01:09:02,883 --> 01:09:05,044
<i>I believe I'm getting ready to die</i>

848
01:09:05,152 --> 01:09:09,213
When I got the record, I heard it
And I was very upset

849
01:09:09,456 --> 01:09:12,948
I just wanted to delete this recording
and record a new record immediately

850
01:09:13,059 --> 01:09:15,186
I thought I recorded the wrong songs

851
01:09:15,295 --> 01:09:19,129
, and since I wrote some of my own songs
...I thought maybe

852
01:09:19,232 --> 01:09:21,496
.I should have stuck to them
The first record was already behind me

853
01:09:21,601 --> 01:09:23,000
Maybe part of me said that

854
01:09:23,103 --> 01:09:26,129
that I didn't want to record the
This record, which I just recorded

855
01:09:26,239 --> 01:09:29,675
Just because I didn't want to miss it
...anything that really was

856
01:09:33,480 --> 01:09:35,141
dear to me or something

857
01:09:35,248 --> 01:09:38,684
When Bob signed in Columbia
It made a big "noise" in the</i>area

858
01:09:38,785 --> 01:09:40,582
<i>Everybody wanted it</i>

859
01:09:40,687 --> 01:09:43,986
People couldn't bring themselves to admit it

860
01:09:45,425 --> 01:09:47,893
"that they were so "hungry

861
01:09:49,296 --> 01:09:53,790
They made it a moral issue
They had to

862
01:09:54,668 --> 01:09:57,228
Because otherwise
They had to watch

863
01:09:57,337 --> 01:10:01,330
deep in themselves
And maybe they won't like what they find out

864
01:10:01,379 --> 01:10:03,279
A traitor!

865
01:10:03,380 --> 01:10:06,080
Traitor, why don't you hear yourself

866
01:10:07,581 --> 01:10:08,581
Play!

867
01:10:09,449 --> 01:10:12,748
<i>Baby, let me follow you down</i>

868
01:10:13,053 --> 01:10:15,613
<i>Baby, let me follow you down</i>

869
01:10:16,122 --> 01:10:19,614
<i>Well, I'd do anything
in this God almighty world</i>

870
01:10:19,726 --> 01:10:23,093
<i>If you just let me follow you down</i>

871
01:10:37,410 --> 01:10:40,607
<i>I'll buy you a diamond ring</i>

872
01:10:41,014 --> 01:10:43,881
<i>Yes, I'll buy you a wedding gown</i>

873
01:10:44,451 --> 01:10:48,080
<i>I'll do anything in this God almighty world</i>

874
01:10:48,188 --> 01:10:51,123
<i>If you just let me follow you down</i>

875
01:11:05,272 --> 01:11:08,503
<i>Yes, I'd do anything
in this God almighty world</i>

876
01:11:08,608 --> 01:11:11,441
<i>If you just let me follow you down</i>

877
01:11:13,847 --> 01:11:16,839
The thought of entertainment
Must be happy or funny

878
01:11:16,950 --> 01:11:19,009
It's kind of shallow

879
01:11:19,119 --> 01:11:23,385
Actually, sometimes I remember
In one of Bob's quotes

880
01:11:23,490 --> 01:11:26,823
Happy?! Everyone can be happy
What is the purpose of this?

881
01:11:28,929 --> 01:11:32,456
<i>The original Mexican name was
La Feria de las Flores</i>

882
01:11:33,667 --> 01:11:35,464
The flower festival

883
01:11:47,847 --> 01:11:51,112
The moment I met
to old songs

884
01:11:51,217 --> 01:11:53,913
I found that people all the time
change them

885
01:11:57,991 --> 01:12:02,826
Think of it as an age-old process.
This has been going on for thousands of years

886
01:12:02,929 --> 01:12:07,457
People take an old song
Change it a little

887
01:12:08,034 --> 01:12:12,494
Add a little, adapt them to new people
.
It happens in every other field

888
01:12:12,606 --> 01:12:15,336
Lawyers change old laws to suit new citizens.

889
01:12:16,109 --> 01:12:20,603
So I am one in this long chain
And so do millions of other musicians

890
01:12:21,047 --> 01:12:24,539
<i>Woody stepped into this role
He was always making up </i>versions

891
01:12:24,651 --> 01:12:27,142
<i>Poems about real life
Real people, real events</i>

892
01:12:27,253 --> 01:12:29,573
<i>The idea is that you connect
A song about something real</i>

893
01:12:30,890 --> 01:12:32,650
<i>Don't expect it to ever make money</i>

894
01:12:32,726 --> 01:12:37,288
It may only be heard at 12
People, but who knows? who knows

895
01:12:39,265 --> 01:12:41,961
And I look at all of us as Woody's children

896
01:12:42,102 --> 01:12:44,570
<i>Bob Dylan is... well, you have to be
20 years old now, I guess</i>

897
01:12:44,671 --> 01:12:47,834
<i>Yes I should be 20</i>

898
01:12:47,941 --> 01:12:50,239
?You are 20 years old
Yes, I am 20 years old.

899
01:12:50,343 --> 01:12:53,176
<i>Tell me about the songs
Q...you wrote to yourself that you sing</i>

900
01:12:53,279 --> 01:12:55,406
I don't pretend to call them a folk song
or something

901
01:12:55,515 --> 01:12:56,982
<i>I just call them contemporary songs</i>

902
01:12:57,083 --> 01:12:59,551
Come on ladies and gentlemen
A-Listen to my song

903
01:12:59,653 --> 01:13:01,746
I'll sing it to you, it's true
But you might think it isn't

904
01:13:01,855 --> 01:13:03,652
<i>Just a small glimpse of the story I will tell</i>

905
01:13:03,757 --> 01:13:06,123
About a city on the east coast
which you all know well</i>

906
01:13:06,226 --> 01:13:08,285
<i> Hard times from the country</i>

907
01:13:08,395 --> 01:13:10,260
<i>Lives in New York City</i>

908
01:13:10,363 --> 01:13:13,526
<i>Come on ladies and gentlemen
to listen to my song

909
01:13:13,633 --> 01:13:16,466
<i>The traditional songs gave us ideas</i>

910
01:13:16,569 --> 01:13:20,198
and attitudes about life
that you can take from them

911
01:13:20,306 --> 01:13:21,898
And you can build your songs on them

912
01:13:22,008 --> 01:13:25,774
<i>I will not go underground</i>

913
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:30,948
<i>Just because someone tells me to
that death is near
</i>

914
01:13:31,051 --> 01:13:32,746
<i>I wrote them wherever I was</i>

915
01:13:32,852 --> 01:13:36,686
You can write them on the subway
Or in cafes... it doesn't matter

916
01:13:37,123 --> 01:13:40,115
You can write them
while talking to someone else

917
01:13:40,326 --> 01:13:43,090
And in the meantime scribble a song

918
01:13:43,196 --> 01:13:46,563
<i>Let me die in my wake</i>

919
01:13:47,467 --> 01:13:51,096
<i>before I'm buried under the ground</i>

920
01:13:52,739 --> 01:13:56,266
I think the first time I ever saw him
Performs a topical song, he sings

921
01:13:56,376 --> 01:14:00,335
Let me die with my boots on
Before I go underground

922
01:14:00,447 --> 01:14:02,745
And it was a real feeling
in New York at the time.

923
01:14:02,849 --> 01:14:04,612
<i>People built shelters everywhere</i>

924
01:14:04,718 --> 01:14:07,687
And let's live our whole lives
on alert for this kind of nonsense

925
01:14:07,787 --> 01:14:09,914
And here we were
'In the center of Greenwich Village</i>

926
01:14:10,023 --> 01:14:12,685
Like a small infected pimple
In the middle of this huge company...

927
01:14:12,792 --> 01:14:14,589
"They say, "It must stop

928
01:14:14,694 --> 01:14:17,959
"We don't... I don't agree with that"
I'm not going to live my life like this

929
01:14:25,972 --> 01:14:30,500
<i>No more "slave selling stage" for me</i>

930
01:14:31,644 --> 01:14:35,808
I worked at "CORE"
And it was an amazing time

931
01:14:35,915 --> 01:14:38,196
A phone call would come
"And people would say, "Oh, my God

932
01:14:38,284 --> 01:14:41,720
Someone was beaten to a pulp
And so-and-so is in a hospital

933
01:14:41,821 --> 01:14:44,585
These were traumatic times to live in

934
01:14:44,691 --> 01:14:48,320
And just like I felt
It was crazy... it was crazy

935
01:14:48,428 --> 01:14:50,589
?Why does all this have to happen?

936
01:14:50,697 --> 01:14:54,656
And I'm sure Bob had the same feeling.
You just can't live and accept it

937
01:14:54,768 --> 01:14:57,532
You live in your own little world
with your interests

938
01:14:57,637 --> 01:14:59,468
But the outside world is definitely a part of it

939
01:14:59,906 --> 01:15:04,138
<i>In several ways a person must pass
</i>

940
01:15:05,145 --> 01:15:08,546
<i>?" before you call him "man</i>

941
01:15:09,716 --> 01:15:14,517
<i>and over several days
A white dove must fly
</i>

942
01:15:15,655 --> 01:15:19,022
<i>Until you find peace on earth</i>

943
01:15:20,260 --> 01:15:24,993
<i>How long will the cannon thunder -
</i>

944
01:15:26,232 --> 01:15:29,759
<i>before the world falls silent</i>

945
01:15:31,104 --> 01:15:35,734
<i>The answer my friend
Here she is, with the wind carried
</i>

946
01:15:36,409 --> 01:15:39,708
<i>The answer is carried in the wind </i>

947
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:45,078
I didn't really know if this song
Good or bad or... it felt right

948
01:15:45,518 --> 01:15:48,510
But I didn't really know

949
01:15:49,489 --> 01:15:52,424
which has some quality
be an anthem or something

950
01:15:52,659 --> 01:15:57,187
<i>Yes, how many years will the mountain survive and exist</i>

951
01:15:58,031 --> 01:16:01,057
<i>before it is washed away with the sea</i>

952
01:16:01,167 --> 01:16:03,795
I wrote the songs to perform with them

953
01:16:03,903 --> 01:16:07,839
And I had to sing, like, in this "language".

954
01:16:10,343 --> 01:16:12,834
That is a language
I didn't know until then

955
01:16:12,946 --> 01:16:17,144
<i>The answer my friend
Here she is, with the wind carried</i>

956
01:16:18,084 --> 01:16:21,747
<i>The answer is carried in the wind </i>

957
01:16:26,359 --> 01:16:28,452
<i>How dare he write</i>

958
01:16:29,429 --> 01:16:33,229
<i>How many ways must a person pass"
?" before you call him "man</i>

959
01:16:33,333 --> 01:16:35,699
This is a trauma that my father went through

960
01:16:35,802 --> 01:16:38,999
He was it
That they didn't call him human, you know.

961
01:16:40,306 --> 01:16:42,137
So where did he come from?

962
01:16:43,443 --> 01:16:45,536
<i>White people don't have hard times.</i>

963
01:16:45,645 --> 01:16:49,137
That was my thought before
Because I was young too

964
01:16:49,382 --> 01:16:52,647
...what he wrote was inspiring

965
01:16:53,086 --> 01:16:55,554
You know, they were inspirational songs

966
01:16:55,655 --> 01:16:59,682
And they inspired.
Like the inspiration of gospel songs in church

967
01:16:59,792 --> 01:17:01,316
He wrote the truth

968
01:17:01,661 --> 01:17:03,891
By the fact that he wrote good songs

969
01:17:03,997 --> 01:17:08,730
and writing about contemporary ideas
In a traditional way, I understood.

970
01:17:09,836 --> 01:17:12,600
And he wrote it as if it was written today

971
01:17:12,705 --> 01:17:15,538
But they sounded in such a way that it is also
Could have been a song 200 years ago

972
01:17:15,642 --> 01:17:18,509
It sounds current and old at the same time

973
01:17:18,912 --> 01:17:23,747
So it wasn't just like singing songs
Like Pete Seeger would sing it

974
01:17:23,850 --> 01:17:26,478
You know, because it's important
that you sing these songs

975
01:17:26,586 --> 01:17:29,783
He sang songs that influenced us

976
01:17:29,889 --> 01:17:33,689
<i>Well, there's no point in sitting
And wonder "why", baby</i>

977
01:17:35,428 --> 01:17:37,658
<i>If you didn't know by now</i>

978
01:17:38,965 --> 01:17:42,731
And there is no point in sitting
And wonder "why", baby</i>

979
01:17:44,404 --> 01:17:46,872
<i>It will never work, somehow</i>

980
01:17:47,707 --> 01:17:51,905
<i>When your rooster crows
At dawn</i>'s dawn

981
01:17:52,912 --> 01:17:56,313
<i>Look out your window and I will go</i>

982
01:17:57,083 --> 01:18:00,519
<i>You are the reason why I travel</i>

983
01:18:01,087 --> 01:18:04,147
<i>But don't think twice, it's okay</i>

984
01:18:09,395 --> 01:18:13,661
Neither of us had a permanent place of residence
We were both a bit of a bum

985
01:18:13,766 --> 01:18:18,669
So how did we have it?
This private little existence, in a sense

986
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,609
I lead a quiet life
on Lower East Broadway

987
01:18:23,710 --> 01:18:26,702
I was an American
I am an American boy

988
01:18:26,813 --> 01:18:30,909
"I read the magazine "American Boy".
And I became a boy scout in the suburbs

989
01:18:31,017 --> 01:18:35,215
<i>I thought I was Tom Sawyer,
Crawfish Catcher in the Bronx</i>River

990
01:18:35,321 --> 01:18:37,221
<i>and imagines the Mississippi</i>

991
01:18:37,323 --> 01:18:40,884
I had a baseball glove
and American Flyer bikes

992
01:18:40,994 --> 01:18:42,689
<i>Everything got mixed up at that time</i>

993
01:18:42,795 --> 01:18:46,458
...everything was like
in a mixer

994
01:18:46,566 --> 01:18:49,660
Everyone was interested
In everything that happens

995
01:18:49,769 --> 01:18:52,966
I have stayed in many people's homes
...which had poetry books in it

996
01:18:53,072 --> 01:18:54,664
and volumes of poetry

997
01:18:54,774 --> 01:18:57,868
And I read what I found

998
01:18:58,277 --> 01:19:01,405
I found songs by Verlaine or Rimbaud...

999
01:19:01,514 --> 01:19:03,744
<i>You know, "Drunk Boat", Enlightenment</i>

1000
01:19:03,850 --> 01:19:07,581
Whether it was these wild and crazy poets
...that came on stage

1001
01:19:07,687 --> 01:19:11,384
Or if it was a musician
who plays some riff in a jazz club

1002
01:19:11,491 --> 01:19:14,517
Or some guy who plays (country jazz) bluegrass,
Some old roots music

1003
01:19:15,028 --> 01:19:19,362
It concerns you, you speak them
When they are published and you play them

1004
01:19:19,465 --> 01:19:24,027
<i>We did things completely instinctively.
It was an instinctive</i>awakening

1005
01:19:24,303 --> 01:19:27,761
Lightning strikes every now and then
somewhere else

1006
01:19:28,274 --> 01:19:29,707
Nobody knows why

1007
01:19:29,809 --> 01:19:32,175
The night of the Cuban missile crisis

1008
01:19:32,412 --> 01:19:36,542
The general feeling was that the world,
about to end or something

1009
01:19:36,649 --> 01:19:37,884
<i>I mean, it's pretty serious.</i>

1010
01:19:37,950 --> 01:19:40,714
"I entered the "lighter" club
And Bob was there

1011
01:19:41,754 --> 01:19:43,779
There were only a few people listening to him sing

1012
01:19:43,890 --> 01:19:46,586
He said, "Why don't you get on stage
"We will sing some songs together

1013
01:19:46,692 --> 01:19:50,719
Let's do the old Carter family song
"You'll miss me when I'm gone"

1014
01:19:50,830 --> 01:19:54,391
I played the nice part of the Carter family,
And we sing

1015
01:19:54,500 --> 01:19:57,628
And I think
?Who will miss us when we are gone?

1016
01:19:57,737 --> 01:19:59,728
You know, we're all gone

1017
01:20:01,274 --> 01:20:02,571
"?What the hell is that?"

1018
01:20:02,875 --> 01:20:06,743
<i>Where have you been, children of all eyes</i>?

1019
01:20:09,749 --> 01:20:13,480
<i>Where have you been my beloved child</i>

1020
01:20:16,255 --> 01:20:20,453
<i>I stumbled and passed
On Twelve Misty Mountains</i>

1021
01:20:23,029 --> 01:20:27,159
<i> I walked and crawled
In six crooked roads</i>

1022
01:20:29,735 --> 01:20:33,569
<i>I walked at seven
Sad woods</i>

1023
01:20:36,409 --> 01:20:40,345
I went out to the shore of the ocean that was languishing and dying to me

1024
01:20:42,982 --> 01:20:47,442
<i>I have traveled ten thousand miles
At the entrance of a cemetery</i>

1025
01:20:49,522 --> 01:20:53,288
<i>And it's hard, it's hard, it's hard</i>

1026
01:20:55,228 --> 01:20:57,128
<i>It's heavy</i>

1027
01:20:57,230 --> 01:21:01,997
<i>And it's heavy rain that's about to fall</i>

1028
01:21:04,570 --> 01:21:08,438
When I came back from India
And I got to the west coast

1029
01:21:08,541 --> 01:21:10,668
...was a poet, Charlie Plymel

1030
01:21:12,879 --> 01:21:14,972
...at a party in Bowlins

1031
01:21:15,248 --> 01:21:18,012
He played me a record
of this young folk singer

1032
01:21:18,784 --> 01:21:20,274
And I listened

1033
01:21:22,555 --> 01:21:24,455
<i>Heavy rain", I think"</i>

1034
01:21:26,926 --> 01:21:28,154
and i cried

1035
01:21:34,467 --> 01:21:38,597
...because it seemed that

1036
01:21:40,740 --> 01:21:43,538
...the torch has been passed

1037
01:21:44,677 --> 01:21:46,440
to another generation

1038
01:21:46,546 --> 01:21:50,607
from the bohemian or early butcher

1039
01:21:51,484 --> 01:21:54,817
Enlightenment and self-empowerment

1040
01:21:56,956 --> 01:22:00,822
<i>And what will you do now, children of all eyes</i>?

1041
01:22:01,427 --> 01:22:05,090
<i>And what will you do now?
My dear</i>boy

1042
01:22:07,733 --> 01:22:11,726
<i>I go outside again
Before the rain</i>falls

1043
01:22:13,940 --> 01:22:18,172
<i>And I will go towards
From the depths of the dark forest

1044
01:22:19,946 --> 01:22:24,383
<i>Where many are the people
But their hands are empty

1045
01:22:25,318 --> 01:22:29,755
<i>Where the poison pills are
Flood their waters</i>

1046
01:22:30,990 --> 01:22:35,051
<i>And I will tell it and think about it
And I will speak and breathe it</i>

1047
01:22:37,163 --> 01:22:41,395
And display all this on the mountain
So that all souls will see it</i>

1048
01:22:43,369 --> 01:22:47,772
<i>and stand on the ocean
Until I sink</i>

1049
01:22:49,442 --> 01:22:53,811
<i> And I know Shiri well
Before I</i>sing it

1050
01:22:54,380 --> 01:22:57,543
<i>...and it's heavy, and it's heavy</i>

1051
01:22:57,650 --> 01:23:01,051
<i>...and it's heavy, and it's heavy</i>

1052
01:23:01,354 --> 01:23:06,223
<i>And it's heavy rain that's about to fall</i>

1053
01:23:09,061 --> 01:23:12,292
There is a very famous saying
among the Buddhists

1054
01:23:13,332 --> 01:23:18,031
If the student is no better
From the teacher, then the teacher is a failure

1055
01:23:18,804 --> 01:23:23,571
And I was very impressed by the language skills

1056
01:23:24,310 --> 01:23:28,269
Especially, from “I know my song well
"Before I sing it

1057
01:23:28,614 --> 01:23:30,673
And yes, all souls will be able to see it

1058
01:23:30,783 --> 01:23:33,513
, or for example, "I will stand on the mountain."
"A place where everyone could hear

1059
01:23:33,619 --> 01:23:35,348
Sounds like a biblical prophecy

1060
01:23:35,955 --> 01:23:40,016
<i>Poetry with powerful words
Hair rivets</i>

1061
01:23:40,259 --> 01:23:45,162
that you instantly recognize
as a kind of subjective truth

1062
01:23:45,264 --> 01:23:49,394
which has an objective reality
Because someone figured it out

1063
01:23:49,802 --> 01:23:51,269
"And then you define it as "poetry

1064
01:23:51,470 --> 01:23:54,200
<i>Take for example what you served
Heavy rain" that is going to fall".

1065
01:23:55,841 --> 01:23:58,776
<i> regardless of what you meant
...in your feeling about atomic rain </i>

1066
01:23:58,878 --> 01:24:03,247
No, no, it's not atomic rain
There was someone else who thought so

1067
01:24:03,416 --> 01:24:05,213
<i>-This is not atomic rain
- Go on</i>

1068
01:24:05,318 --> 01:24:08,116
<i>- It's heavy rain and not atomic rain.
- Heavy rain</i>

1069
01:24:08,220 --> 01:24:12,281
All your songs are about more
something than the actual event

1070
01:24:12,391 --> 01:24:14,120
Maybe that's what caused it

1071
01:24:14,226 --> 01:24:16,421
- ?You understand what I mean
- I'm not a typical songwriter

1072
01:24:16,529 --> 01:24:21,262
<i>- So you are not a topical songwriter
- No, I don't even like that</i>word

1073
01:24:21,367 --> 01:24:24,530
I mean, it's not a song
.about a certain event

1074
01:24:24,637 --> 01:24:26,798
- Yes, it's not
- It's beyond that

1075
01:24:26,906 --> 01:24:28,601
The vernacular is so common

1076
01:24:28,708 --> 01:24:31,575
that you can take any part of it
and create a new song

1077
01:24:31,677 --> 01:24:34,009
I never thought
that I break ground in nothing

1078
01:24:34,113 --> 01:24:36,980
Overall, I worked with an existing "form".
who was already there

1079
01:24:37,083 --> 01:24:40,484
I certainly didn't make something up
who have not tried before

1080
01:24:40,586 --> 01:24:42,713
Part of the picture, you know

1081
01:24:44,610 --> 01:24:49,910
"go home"

1082
01:25:05,111 --> 01:25:08,171
<i>You must learn to control yourself
?is it on </i>

1083
01:25:10,716 --> 01:25:12,206
<i>?Testing. Richard</i>

1084
01:25:13,420 --> 01:25:15,320
"Get off the stage! bobby"

1085
01:25:15,521 --> 01:25:18,813
?The microphone is on
Richard

1086
01:25:20,499 --> 01:25:24,099
"How about "turning it off

1087
01:25:28,100 --> 01:25:30,125
<i>You step into the room</i>

1088
01:25:32,471 --> 01:25:34,530
<i>with the pencil in your hand</i>

1089
01:25:36,008 --> 01:25:38,374
<i>You see someone naked</i>

1090
01:25:40,112 --> 01:25:42,342
<i> "?You say: "Who is this man </i>

1091
01:25:44,216 --> 01:25:46,776
<i>You're trying so hard</i>

1092
01:25:48,954 --> 01:25:51,149
<i>But you don't understand</i>

1093
01:25:52,258 --> 01:25:56,922
<i>Just what you will say when you get home</i>

1094
01:25:59,365 --> 01:26:03,859
<i>Yes, because you know
Something's going on here</i>

1095
01:26:04,437 --> 01:26:07,133
<i>But you don't know what he is</i>

1096
01:26:08,707 --> 01:26:10,106
<i>Isn't it so</i>

1097
01:26:11,110 --> 01:26:14,341
<i>Mr. Jones</i>

1098
01:26:18,017 --> 01:26:20,747
<i>You have many connections</i>

1099
01:26:22,388 --> 01:26:24,549
<i>out there among the lumberjacks</i>

1100
01:26:25,925 --> 01:26:27,222
<i>bring you facts</i>

1101
01:26:27,326 --> 01:26:30,762
<i>When someone attacks your imagination</i>

1102
01:26:34,834 --> 01:26:37,428
<i>But no one has respect</i>

1103
01:26:39,071 --> 01:26:41,631
<i>Anyway, they're just waiting</i>

1104
01:26:43,409 --> 01:26:45,809
<i>that you take your check</i>

1105
01:26:45,911 --> 01:26:48,903
<i>and give it for tax deduction</i>

1106
01:26:49,148 --> 01:26:53,107
<i>charity organization </i>

1107
01:26:59,959 --> 01:27:04,555
Don't scorn me anymore! Don't scorn me
.God, this contempt, I can't stand it

1108
01:27:04,997 --> 01:27:07,659
Oh, God
It's hard to concentrate when they boo.

1109
01:27:07,766 --> 01:27:10,132
Yes, I can't concentrate at all
.when they boo

1110
01:27:10,236 --> 01:27:14,696
I don't hear anything
I don't even want to play

1111
01:27:17,610 --> 01:27:20,875
when they shout
This weird nasal tone is from here

1112
01:27:22,581 --> 01:27:26,677
Hell, you know, I don't understand
How do they manage to buy the tickets so quickly?

1113
01:27:28,087 --> 01:27:31,056
- I mean, you know. Let's turn off this light
- Turn off the light

1114
01:27:33,792 --> 01:27:36,124
<i>Bobby Dylan, CBS label
...brand new </i>

1115
01:27:36,228 --> 01:27:38,992
<i>At Caroline's Parade
is in 18</i>place

1116
01:27:39,098 --> 01:27:42,067
<i>....let's go and have a rest
Not at this time of day, of course</i>

1117
01:27:46,238 --> 01:27:50,334
<i>-</i>

1118
01:27:51,810 --> 01:27:55,576
<i>-</i>

1119
01:27:56,115 --> 01:28:00,074
<i>-</i>

1120
01:28:01,554 --> 01:28:05,354
<i>-</i>

1121
01:28:06,158 --> 01:28:10,151
<i>-</i>

1122
01:28:11,363 --> 01:28:15,094
<i>-</i>

1123
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:17,600
Bob Dylan's first record did not sell

1124
01:28:19,104 --> 01:28:22,870
<i>I don't think we sold an album to every store
in America. I think, 2,500</i>s

1125
01:28:22,975 --> 01:28:25,842
<i>Salesmen, they would say
"This is Hammond's folly."</i>

1126
01:28:25,945 --> 01:28:29,472
Because the cost to record was low
.let John accept his folly

1127
01:28:30,816 --> 01:28:33,717
On my second album, people
...suddenly they started paying attention

1128
01:28:33,819 --> 01:28:35,150
.who never noticed before

1129
01:28:35,254 --> 01:28:36,974
Grossman enters the picture
in that period

1130
01:28:37,489 --> 01:28:39,855
He was something like the character
of Colonel Tom Parker

1131
01:28:39,959 --> 01:28:43,053
He was dressed to the nines
every time you see him

1132
01:28:43,162 --> 01:28:44,424
You could smell it coming

1133
01:28:44,530 --> 01:28:47,658
Al Grossman was
...the first successful folk manager

1134
01:28:47,766 --> 01:28:50,166
He knew how to make money
from representing his singers

1135
01:28:50,269 --> 01:28:52,203
He was the owner of the recording studio

1136
01:28:52,304 --> 01:28:55,398
He owned a music production company
.and he will own Bob Dylan

1137
01:28:55,507 --> 01:28:56,940
"He was the owner of "Peter, Paul and Mary

1138
01:28:57,042 --> 01:28:59,840
He will sell Bob Dylan songs
"To" Peter, Paul and Mary

1139
01:28:59,945 --> 01:29:03,847
that they will sing in a recording in his studio
And he will get the rights

1140
01:29:03,949 --> 01:29:06,816
So he cut profits from all sides
He had a salami technique

1141
01:29:06,919 --> 01:29:10,047
He received a percentage of the activity
from six or seven different directions

1142
01:29:10,489 --> 01:29:12,787
"He created "Peter Paul and Mary

1143
01:29:12,891 --> 01:29:17,794
<i>Because he saw that people really wanted
The car is as fresh and young as this</i>

1144
01:29:17,896 --> 01:29:19,329
<i>that they could feel connected to</i>

1145
01:29:19,431 --> 01:29:23,333
"He changed Noel's name to 'Paul.'

1146
01:29:23,902 --> 01:29:27,201
for it to have a religious meaning
He was a genius

1147
01:29:27,773 --> 01:29:29,933
<i>I met Mary Travers
"of "Peter Paul and Mary</i>'s

1148
01:29:30,009 --> 01:29:33,536
<i>I knew her when she was younger
She used to sing in Washington Square Park</i>

1149
01:29:33,646 --> 01:29:36,615
And she was a nice person
And a very lively</i>girl

1150
01:29:36,715 --> 01:29:38,910
...once, in the middle of winter

1151
01:29:39,018 --> 01:29:42,317
And it was cold on McDougall Street
You know, like February

1152
01:29:43,856 --> 01:29:46,882
I saw her, and I said
"?Where have you been, Mary?"

1153
01:29:46,992 --> 01:29:49,722
She says, “I was in Florida
"...continuing

1154
01:29:49,828 --> 01:29:51,591
I can't remember if it was weeks or months

1155
01:29:51,697 --> 01:29:55,133
A man named Albert Grossman
"...hooked me up

1156
01:29:55,234 --> 01:29:57,134
with some guys
from the cafes

1157
01:29:57,236 --> 01:30:00,137
And we are trying to start a new band

1158
01:30:00,239 --> 01:30:01,536
we sing

1159
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:05,542
And I say: And you want to say that you were
!?All this time in Florida

1160
01:30:05,644 --> 01:30:08,078
?Where's your tan?
?You didn't get to go out and spend some time in the sun

1161
01:30:08,180 --> 01:30:10,614
She says, “No, Albert told me
I shouldn't go out in the sun

1162
01:30:10,716 --> 01:30:13,742
I'm supposed to perform
You are the blonde, the homebody

1163
01:30:13,852 --> 01:30:17,379
And it really creeped me out
.to say it honestly

1164
01:30:17,489 --> 01:30:21,152
Because I was shivering in New York

1165
01:30:21,260 --> 01:30:23,285
And she had a chance
go out in the sun

1166
01:30:23,395 --> 01:30:26,796
But they manipulated her
There is an image she must maintain

1167
01:30:26,899 --> 01:30:28,594
It had a look

1168
01:30:28,701 --> 01:30:31,636
I just felt it was a bad sign

1169
01:30:31,737 --> 01:30:33,864
<i>I didn't feel like Albert was manipulating Bob</i>

1170
01:30:33,972 --> 01:30:37,169
Because I think Bob
Was weirder than Albert

1171
01:30:37,276 --> 01:30:39,176
<i>So he couldn't manipulate him</i>

1172
01:30:39,278 --> 01:30:43,180
And by weird, I don't mean that in a bad way
But I mean he had enough games

1173
01:30:43,282 --> 01:30:47,082
Now, Bob was also a great opportunist

1174
01:30:47,186 --> 01:30:51,122
So if someone gave him a chance
do something, he can use it.

1175
01:30:51,223 --> 01:30:53,020
I don't know if Bob would have acted

1176
01:30:53,125 --> 01:30:55,719
I think he just knew what he wanted
And he could focus

1177
01:30:56,028 --> 01:30:57,620
<i>He was very wise</i>

1178
01:30:57,730 --> 01:31:02,258
He could have chosen someone who was
... calculate. I mean, every musician would do that

1179
01:31:02,735 --> 01:31:04,202
But he was really good at it

1180
01:31:04,603 --> 01:31:08,699
<i>Albert tells me one day he will send
A guy who came to see me named Bob Dylan</i>

1181
01:31:10,476 --> 01:31:13,604
He has a guitar, of some kind
of a device around his neck

1182
01:31:13,712 --> 01:31:16,237
so that the harmonica will be positioned in front of his mouth.

1183
01:31:16,348 --> 01:31:18,179
...Now, believe me when I tell you

1184
01:31:18,283 --> 01:31:21,878
No one has ever seen
Something like that on Broadway

1185
01:31:21,987 --> 01:31:24,182
And he starts singing to me

1186
01:31:25,290 --> 01:31:29,522
And one of the things I'm proud of
...that I think I'm one of the few

1187
01:31:29,628 --> 01:31:33,155
At the time, I might have been
...the only one in the music business

1188
01:31:33,265 --> 01:31:35,256
who listened to his words

1189
01:31:36,101 --> 01:31:37,261
And when I listened

1190
01:31:37,369 --> 01:31:41,965
How many years does a person need?
Until he can hear people crying", I turned over

1191
01:31:42,174 --> 01:31:45,234
I don't even remember what the songs were
...that he played for me that day

1192
01:31:45,344 --> 01:31:47,369
"But I said: "That's enough, I want you

1193
01:31:47,546 --> 01:31:52,483
<i>In several ways the person must pass
</i>

1194
01:31:53,552 --> 01:31:57,511
<i>"Before you call him "Adam</i>

1195
01:32:03,395 --> 01:32:07,126
The music business itself
were dominated by music publishers

1196
01:32:09,134 --> 01:32:12,626
In those days, song was important
You would pick a song and work on it

1197
01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:24,308
<i>Historically, every time you see
that Dylan is mentioned in the Scriptures

1198
01:32:24,416 --> 01:32:27,943
It will always be "John Hammond."
"Discovered Bob Dylan

1199
01:32:28,053 --> 01:32:31,489
I think the guy
.who made Dylan popular, it was me

1200
01:32:31,590 --> 01:32:33,217
If I may say so

1201
01:32:33,325 --> 01:32:36,317
I'm the one who started it
spread his songs everywhere

1202
01:32:36,428 --> 01:32:38,988
We never had any objection
within the company to him

1203
01:32:39,097 --> 01:32:42,555
My boss, the old man, Herman Starr
Get over it right away

1204
01:32:42,668 --> 01:32:45,159
Why? Because they smelled dollars, that's why

1205
01:32:46,972 --> 01:32:49,031
<i>I have to sing you something
In order to tell you something

1206
01:32:49,141 --> 01:32:52,008
<i>"It's called "Lords of War</i>

1207
01:32:56,582 --> 01:32:58,880
<i>Come here, warlords</i>

1208
01:33:00,686 --> 01:33:02,984
<i>You who build all the instruments of destruction</i>

1209
01:33:04,756 --> 01:33:07,247
<i>You who build death planes</i>

1210
01:33:09,127 --> 01:33:11,254
<i>You who build heavy bombs</i>

1211
01:33:13,298 --> 01:33:15,459
<i>You who hide behind walls</i>

1212
01:33:17,336 --> 01:33:19,327
<i>You who hide behind tables</i>

1213
01:33:21,106 --> 01:33:24,837
<i>I just want you to know
I can see through your masks
</i>

1214
01:33:27,412 --> 01:33:30,472
<i>I hope you die</i>

1215
01:33:31,116 --> 01:33:33,243
<i>and die soon</i>

1216
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:37,418
<i>I will follow your closet</i>

1217
01:33:39,024 --> 01:33:41,356
<i>All pale afternoon</i>

1218
01:33:43,362 --> 01:33:45,728
<i>And I will watch you while the coffin is taken down</i>

1219
01:33:47,165 --> 01:33:49,497
<i>until deathbed</i>

1220
01:33:51,336 --> 01:33:56,205
And I will stand on your grave
Until I make sure you are completely dead
</i>

1221
01:33:56,308 --> 01:34:00,438
<i>I organized his performance at the town hall
It may have been in 63</i>'s

1222
01:34:00,846 --> 01:34:03,178
And when the show was over

1223
01:34:03,916 --> 01:34:06,316
:Bobby happened to me and asked

1224
01:34:07,286 --> 01:34:10,187
Is anyone at the stage door"
"?waiting for me

1225
01:34:11,890 --> 01:34:16,122
<i>The fact is that I do not blame
...any artist seeking fame</i>

1226
01:34:16,228 --> 01:34:18,719
<i>."Which is, in a sense, "recognition</i>

1227
01:34:18,830 --> 01:34:21,230
you want to know
...that made the crowd happy

1228
01:34:21,333 --> 01:34:24,063
, you want to know that
.that the audience is interested in you

1229
01:34:24,603 --> 01:34:28,369
<i>He was, in his way, a vigorous operator</i>

1230
01:34:28,740 --> 01:34:32,699
, but mostly I think, that the material he created
... was really so great

1231
01:34:34,179 --> 01:34:35,976
.that everyone responded to it

1232
01:34:37,716 --> 01:34:40,810
<i>Oxford Town, Oxford Town
Everyone bows their heads</i>

1233
01:34:40,919 --> 01:34:43,046
<i>The sun does not rise above the earth</i>

1234
01:34:43,155 --> 01:34:45,646
<i>I'm not going to Oxford Town</i>

1235
01:34:45,757 --> 01:34:49,386
<i>The actual song movement
.was a product of the left</i>

1236
01:34:54,700 --> 01:34:57,191
And the left, at that time
...was Pete Seeger</i>'s

1237
01:34:57,302 --> 01:34:59,270
<i>And the Weavers, Woody Guthrie</i>

1238
01:34:59,371 --> 01:35:03,774
These people created material
which is based on current situations

1239
01:35:07,646 --> 01:35:10,479
<i>Pete Seeger, very tall
Like a haughty character</i>

1240
01:35:10,782 --> 01:35:12,443
I didn't realize he was a communist

1241
01:35:12,551 --> 01:35:15,611
To be honest, I didn't even know
What is a communist anyway?

1242
01:35:19,825 --> 01:35:23,454
And if he did, it wasn't
I don't care at all

1243
01:35:25,864 --> 01:35:28,424
I really didn't think about people
in these terms

1244
01:35:28,900 --> 01:35:31,300
Bobby was not really a political person

1245
01:35:33,005 --> 01:35:35,496
...he was kind of

1246
01:35:36,575 --> 01:35:37,906
...like

1247
01:35:39,911 --> 01:35:42,812
A political person and a leftist

1248
01:35:43,315 --> 01:35:47,979
And officially, yes, he was
But he wasn't really interested

1249
01:35:48,887 --> 01:35:52,653
In the true nature of the Soviet Union
or all that nonsense

1250
01:35:54,059 --> 01:35:56,584
We thought he was hopeless
and politically innocent

1251
01:35:56,695 --> 01:36:01,155
But in retrospect, I think maybe he was
More sophisticated than we were

1252
01:36:11,810 --> 01:36:16,474
<i>The revival of folk music was rejected
Almost 10 years by Witch Hunt</i>

1253
01:36:16,581 --> 01:36:20,813
<i>That is, when the US military publishes
...booklets on how to identify a communist</i>

1254
01:36:20,919 --> 01:36:24,548
<i>They have guidance for identifying such as
"Sometimes he will play the guitar"</i>

1255
01:36:24,656 --> 01:36:27,386
... for things like that she had

1256
01:36:28,827 --> 01:36:31,295
A very depressing and depressing effect

1257
01:36:40,939 --> 01:36:44,898
<i> "The song "Good night Irene
It was played all over the country</i>

1258
01:36:45,010 --> 01:36:46,443
<i> You couldn't "escape" him</i>

1259
01:36:46,545 --> 01:36:49,639
<i>in the US of America
In the summer of 1950</i>

1260
01:36:49,748 --> 01:36:54,082
"Just then, just as soon as "Irene
Was in the top 40

1261
01:36:54,186 --> 01:36:56,711
A bunch of blacklist authors
They probably said to themselves

1262
01:36:56,822 --> 01:37:00,349
How did we let a certain communist"
"slip through our hands

1263
01:37:00,759 --> 01:37:04,627
<i>They started to see that we
...on the blacklist, and about two years later</i>

1264
01:37:04,729 --> 01:37:07,926
Instead of singing at the Waldorf Astoria
Or in "castration" in Hollywood

1265
01:37:09,367 --> 01:37:12,666
"We sang at Duffy Beer and Grill
On the outskirts of Cleveland

1266
01:37:12,771 --> 01:37:15,569
And we decided to take a rest

1267
01:37:16,241 --> 01:37:18,471
-

1268
01:37:19,978 --> 01:37:22,776
While Senator McCarthy
I think, started to fade

1269
01:37:22,881 --> 01:37:25,281
The folk music thing
started to rise

1270
01:37:26,551 --> 01:37:30,146
I say it is in everyone's interest
...to be in the United States of America

1271
01:37:30,255 --> 01:37:33,019
Let there be some good senators
Out of Mississippi for a change

1272
01:37:33,125 --> 01:37:35,525
and you can do it,
And you will soon, I know

1273
01:38:06,158 --> 01:38:09,059
I arranged for him to go with
Pete and Theodore Bickle

1274
01:38:09,161 --> 01:38:11,288
When they both went down south

1275
01:38:11,396 --> 01:38:16,191
The day Evers hatched
He was buried because of the bullet he took

1276
01:38:17,102 --> 01:38:21,869
<i>I encouraged him to go with them
And he did so, as part of the learning</i>process

1277
01:38:22,340 --> 01:38:25,537
the civil rights movement
was in full swing

1278
01:38:25,944 --> 01:38:28,310
And there was a big field
Outside of Greenwood

1279
01:38:28,413 --> 01:38:30,040
<i>with several hundred people</i>

1280
01:38:30,448 --> 01:38:34,748
<i>I heard speeches there
That I will never forget

1281
01:38:34,853 --> 01:38:39,552
And I remember Bob singing a song
That really got people thinking

1282
01:38:40,058 --> 01:38:42,151
<i>"He is just a pawn (tool) in the game"</i>

1283
01:38:43,395 --> 01:38:46,421
He sings about the man
who killed Medgar Evers

1284
01:38:46,965 --> 01:38:50,696
in other words
Don't just think about that one man

1285
01:38:50,802 --> 01:38:54,203
who committed this murder
But think about the whole situation

1286
01:38:54,673 --> 01:38:57,233
Be on people's side
fighting for something

1287
01:38:57,342 --> 01:38:59,902
It doesn't necessarily mean
that you are political

1288
01:39:00,045 --> 01:39:03,572
<i>Oh, my name is nothing</i>

1289
01:39:03,882 --> 01:39:06,350
<i>My age is less important</i>

1290
01:39:07,352 --> 01:39:10,879
<i>The country I come from</i>

1291
01:39:10,989 --> 01:39:13,355
<i>called the Midwest</i>

1292
01:39:14,192 --> 01:39:17,958
<i>There they taught me and educated me </i>

1293
01:39:18,063 --> 01:39:20,361
<i>laws must be obeyed</i>

1294
01:39:21,433 --> 01:39:24,834
<i>And because the country I live in</i>

1295
01:39:24,936 --> 01:39:27,370
<i>God by her side</i>

1296
01:39:28,006 --> 01:39:31,032
I would say Bob was talented
And it blossomed

1297
01:39:31,142 --> 01:39:34,509
He had a great desire to change the world

1298
01:39:34,613 --> 01:39:36,547
We even talked about it

1299
01:39:36,648 --> 01:39:38,809
We thought that this separation
You won't last

1300
01:39:38,917 --> 01:39:41,317
And it was up to us
help bring it to an end

1301
01:39:41,419 --> 01:39:43,259
We really believed we would have a part in it

1302
01:39:43,321 --> 01:39:45,846
As songwriters changing the world

1303
01:39:48,941 --> 01:39:54,641
Joan Baaz

1304
01:40:04,342 --> 01:40:08,642
<i>The first time I saw Bob
It was in Georgia's Folk City
</i>

1305
01:40:08,980 --> 01:40:10,277
<i>I was told about him</i>

1306
01:40:10,682 --> 01:40:14,743
this guy is a genius
"And he writes these amazing songs

1307
01:40:14,853 --> 01:40:18,311
"And he adores Woody Guthrie,"
And all these things

1308
01:40:18,423 --> 01:40:20,789
I doubted it all, you know

1309
01:40:20,892 --> 01:40:24,225
"When people "run amok
on someone other than them

1310
01:40:24,329 --> 01:40:26,297
...but I went, and of course

1311
01:40:26,398 --> 01:40:28,389
He was everything
which they said he was

1312
01:40:28,500 --> 01:40:32,163
<i>We both had a baby face. that's what
Which I think when I look at the early pictures</i>

1313
01:40:32,270 --> 01:40:35,137
Smooth skin, baby face
We were really young

1314
01:40:35,540 --> 01:40:37,235
<i>Bob looks like a ragamuffin</i>

1315
01:40:37,342 --> 01:40:39,936
<i>It was probably one of the things
that I found so attractive</i>in him

1316
01:40:40,045 --> 01:40:41,685
<i>He will bring out the maternal instinct</i>

1317
01:40:41,780 --> 01:40:44,510
In the woman who thought
that her maternal instinct is already dead

1318
01:40:44,983 --> 01:40:49,647
<i>He went out and stayed with me
In a beautiful house, in Carmel Valley.</i>

1319
01:40:50,055 --> 01:40:51,283
<i>Bob liked to write there</i>

1320
01:40:51,389 --> 01:40:54,381
And he just stood there
Tapping on that typewriter

1321
01:40:54,492 --> 01:40:57,359
And he would say
"?What do you think about it?"</i>

1322
01:40:57,462 --> 01:41:01,023
I would not have understood anything
But I loved it

1323
01:41:02,567 --> 01:41:05,627
So I decided, "Okay, I'll try to figure it out
This" and then I read it again

1324
01:41:05,737 --> 01:41:09,696
And I gave him my interpretation
You are what I thought it was

1325
01:41:09,808 --> 01:41:11,435
"And he says "It's really good

1326
01:41:11,543 --> 01:41:13,477
He would say, "Look now
"...a few years from now

1327
01:41:13,578 --> 01:41:14,977
all these people"
"...all the jerks

1328
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:16,843
going to write..."
"For all the rubbish I write

1329
01:41:16,948 --> 01:41:19,079
I myself don't know what the hell this is about"
"I don't know what the song is about

1330
01:41:19,085 --> 01:41:23,253
"But they will write what the song is about"

1331
01:41:23,421 --> 01:41:25,286
<i>Oh, the time will come</i>

1332
01:41:25,390 --> 01:41:27,551
<i>When the wind stops reigning</i>

1333
01:41:27,659 --> 01:41:30,958
<i>And the wind will stop breathing</i>

1334
01:41:31,963 --> 01:41:34,022
<i>Like the stillness of the wind</i>

1335
01:41:34,132 --> 01:41:36,259
<i>before the hurricane hits</i>

1336
01:41:36,368 --> 01:41:39,269
<i>The time the ship comes in</i>

1337
01:41:40,438 --> 01:41:42,463
<i>And the sea will break</i>

1338
01:41:42,574 --> 01:41:44,565
<i>and the ships will touch the shore</i>

1339
01:41:44,676 --> 01:41:48,043
<i>and the sands on the coastline
will tremble</i>

1340
01:41:48,146 --> 01:41:50,614
<i>Bob was a writer
Just write and write and write</i>

1341
01:41:50,715 --> 01:41:53,479
<i>...and once, we entered a place (a hotel)</i>

1342
01:41:53,585 --> 01:41:56,986
And I was fine until then
Bare feet or not, I was famous

1343
01:41:57,889 --> 01:42:00,119
But this sloppy guy who was with me

1344
01:42:00,225 --> 01:42:02,523
And the people behind the counter
Refuse to accept it at all

1345
01:42:02,627 --> 01:42:05,221
And they said there was no room available

1346
01:42:05,997 --> 01:42:07,965
And now, of course, I was nervous

1347
01:42:08,066 --> 01:42:11,524
It took all the punch out of me
And I got him a room

1348
01:42:13,304 --> 01:42:17,172
And he wrote a song
It was just killer

1349
01:42:17,275 --> 01:42:19,004
<i> while our ship will sail and appear</i>

1350
01:42:19,110 --> 01:42:20,771
And I could see him "hanging" them all

1351
01:42:20,879 --> 01:42:25,009
He would never agree to such a thing
But that's how it seems to me

1352
01:42:25,116 --> 01:42:27,710
Works on everything he feels

1353
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:31,946
Maybe he had a feeling to vent
For not giving him a room

1354
01:42:32,056 --> 01:42:34,456
In a brilliant song, in one night

1355
01:42:34,559 --> 01:42:36,720
<i>And they will wave their hands</i>

1356
01:42:36,828 --> 01:42:38,762
<i>And they said that we will accept all your demands</i>

1357
01:42:38,863 --> 01:42:42,299
<i> A call will come out of the bow
"Your days are numbered"

1358
01:42:43,034 --> 01:42:45,093
<i>And like Pharaoh and his horsemen</i>

1359
01:42:45,203 --> 01:42:47,000
<i>They will drown in the tide</i>

1360
01:42:47,105 --> 01:42:51,804
<i>And like Goliath, they will be conquered</i>

1361
01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:10,728
<i>You had village people and city people there</i>

1362
01:43:10,829 --> 01:43:13,730
<i>We deliberately tried to mix them up in Newport</i>

1363
01:43:39,357 --> 01:43:40,847
<i>was Johnny Cash</i>

1364
01:43:45,029 --> 01:43:48,521
And then you had OG Abbott
who sang some of the ballads he knew

1365
01:43:48,633 --> 01:43:51,397
As a working young man
in the logging camps

1366
01:43:51,503 --> 01:43:52,697
right next to each other

1367
01:44:02,947 --> 01:44:06,940
There were 15,000 people
And it seems to me simply huge

1368
01:44:07,418 --> 01:44:12,082
Everyone who played folk music was there
old and young

1369
01:44:12,524 --> 01:44:14,287
Also a certain type of younger people

1370
01:44:19,998 --> 01:44:24,935
We kind of bonded, in a way,
In terms of musical intelligence

1371
01:44:25,270 --> 01:44:27,465
what we sang
And what he wrote

1372
01:44:27,805 --> 01:44:31,707
<i>ball behind the bushes</i>

1373
01:44:32,310 --> 01:44:34,574
<i>took the blood of Medgar Evers</i>

1374
01:44:36,781 --> 01:44:40,615
<i>A finger pressed the trigger and called his name</i>

1375
01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:47,020
<i>A handle was hidden in the dark</i>

1376
01:44:47,125 --> 01:44:49,184
<i>A hand ignited the spark</i>

1377
01:44:49,294 --> 01:44:51,319
<i>And two eyes chose the target</i>

1378
01:44:52,630 --> 01:44:54,928
<i>In the back of a man's mind</i>

1379
01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:58,127
<i>But you can't blame him</i>

1380
01:44:59,337 --> 01:45:03,706
<i>But he is only a pawn in their game</i>

1381
01:45:04,876 --> 01:45:08,107
<i> I was probably the only singer there
who sang the songs he composed himself

1382
01:45:08,212 --> 01:45:10,646
<i>...and most likely two years earlier</i>

1383
01:45:10,748 --> 01:45:13,649
<i>I wasn't talented enough
to enter Newport</i>

1384
01:45:14,085 --> 01:45:17,714
<i>You have more than the blacks
don't complain</i>

1385
01:45:18,723 --> 01:45:20,554
<i>You are better than them</i>

1386
01:45:20,658 --> 01:45:24,253
<i>You were born with white skin, they explain</i>

1387
01:45:25,029 --> 01:45:26,997
<i>It was quite a sensation</i>

1388
01:45:28,066 --> 01:45:31,194
He sings a lot
What they called then, protest songs

1389
01:45:31,302 --> 01:45:34,328
I always hated that title

1390
01:45:35,340 --> 01:45:38,571
...and it was very

1391
01:45:39,644 --> 01:45:41,134
in the spirit of the times

1392
01:45:41,713 --> 01:45:44,978
<i>Pete and the crowd at Boardside Magazine</i>

1393
01:45:45,083 --> 01:45:47,517
<i>Fall in love with him</i>

1394
01:45:47,619 --> 01:45:52,318
<i>The day Medgar Evers was buried
From the ball he caught</i>

1395
01:45:56,327 --> 01:45:59,819
<i>They lowered him to the ground like a king</i>

1396
01:46:02,734 --> 01:46:07,364
<i>But when the sun is the shadows
sinks on the person</i>

1397
01:46:07,472 --> 01:46:09,531
<i>who pulled the trigger</i>

1398
01:46:09,641 --> 01:46:11,871
<i>He will see in his grave</i>

1399
01:46:12,910 --> 01:46:15,208
<i>on the remaining tombstone</i>

1400
01:46:15,313 --> 01:46:17,543
<i>Herat next to his name</i>

1401
01:46:17,649 --> 01:46:20,015
<i>Simple tombstone inscription</i>

1402
01:46:20,451 --> 01:46:25,218
<i>Just a soldier in their own game</i>

1403
01:46:27,425 --> 01:46:30,292
<i>There was Woody Guthrie
And it was Pete Seeger</i>'s later

1404
01:46:30,395 --> 01:46:32,590
<i>who continued the tradition of Woody</i>

1405
01:46:32,697 --> 01:46:35,757
?And now who was supposed to continue from Pete Seeger on

1406
01:46:36,701 --> 01:46:39,465
And at this point, Bob Dylan arrived

1407
01:46:39,771 --> 01:46:43,104
<i>...then we started to recognize that Bobby</i>

1408
01:46:43,207 --> 01:46:46,699
<i>will be the continuation of that tradition</i>

1409
01:46:46,811 --> 01:46:49,541
<i>...I wrote this song. It tells a</i>story

1410
01:46:52,950 --> 01:46:54,679
<i>If you like stories</i>

1411
01:47:11,235 --> 01:47:14,602
Maybe he doesn't do anything-
Maybe it doesn't tell a story -

1412
01:47:16,541 --> 01:47:19,374
<i>...it was very, very exciting... I felt</i>

1413
01:47:20,244 --> 01:47:21,939
<i>It was like, Bob was my boyfriend</i>

1414
01:47:22,046 --> 01:47:25,812
We were involved in the same matter
And I knew he was going to be a huge star

1415
01:47:25,917 --> 01:47:27,509
And I loved it

1416
01:47:39,597 --> 01:47:40,655
let me say something

1417
01:47:41,032 --> 01:47:44,399
<i>We just need to sing one song, that's all
This is the introduction</i>

1418
01:47:47,638 --> 01:47:52,268
<i> Oh, my name is nothing</i>

1419
01:47:53,044 --> 01:47:57,413
<i>My age doesn't matter</i>

1420
01:47:58,015 --> 01:48:02,918
<i>The country I come from</i>

1421
01:48:03,154 --> 01:48:07,318
<i>called the Midwest</i>

1422
01:48:07,658 --> 01:48:12,561
<i>I studied and grew up there</i>

1423
01:48:12,797 --> 01:48:17,166
<i>The rules must be kept</i>

1424
01:48:17,268 --> 01:48:22,205
<i>And in the country where I live</i>

1425
01:48:22,306 --> 01:48:27,107
<i>There's a god on her side</i>

1426
01:48:28,646 --> 01:48:33,606
<i>Or, the history books say so</i>

1427
01:48:33,718 --> 01:48:37,449
<i>They tell it so well</i>

1428
01:48:37,855 --> 01:48:42,758
<i>The cavalry attacked</i>

1429
01:48:42,860 --> 01:48:47,354
<i>The Indians fell</i>

1430
01:48:47,465 --> 01:48:52,061
<i>The cavalry attacked</i>

1431
01:48:52,170 --> 01:48:56,698
<i>And the Indians died</i>

1432
01:48:56,808 --> 01:49:01,040
<i>Oh the country was young</i>

1433
01:49:01,512 --> 01:49:05,846
<i>with God by her side</i>

1434
01:49:07,618 --> 01:49:09,882
<i>I wrote a lot of songs
in a quick</i>period of time

1435
01:49:09,987 --> 01:49:11,579
<i>...I could do it then</i>

1436
01:49:11,823 --> 01:49:16,556
Because the process was new to me

1437
01:49:18,062 --> 01:49:19,689
...I felt like

1438
01:49:20,298 --> 01:49:23,961
I discovered something
that no one else has discovered yet

1439
01:49:24,635 --> 01:49:29,231
And I was in a kind of artistic arena
...that no one else was in it before me

1440
01:49:29,340 --> 01:49:32,173
Never, though I may be wrong about that...

1441
01:49:32,510 --> 01:49:35,240
<i>Once upon a time a crazy dream came to me</i>

1442
01:49:35,346 --> 01:49:37,906
<i>I dreamed that I was walking into World War III</i>

1443
01:49:38,549 --> 01:49:40,949
<i>I went to the doctor the next day</i>

1444
01:49:41,052 --> 01:49:42,917
<i>to hear what words he has to say</i>

1445
01:49:43,020 --> 01:49:44,715
<i>He said it was a bad dream</i>

1446
01:49:50,361 --> 01:49:55,025
<i>I was on top of a 12-foot stand, and I had a long lens</i>

1447
01:49:55,132 --> 01:49:57,657
I looked at Bob Dylan
goes on stage

1448
01:49:57,768 --> 01:50:00,202
<i>Well, in the corner by the hot dog stand</i>

1449
01:50:00,304 --> 01:50:01,635
<i>I saw another person</i>

1450
01:50:01,739 --> 01:50:02,831
<i>" I said, "Hello, friend</i>

1451
01:50:02,940 --> 01:50:04,771
<i>"I guess just the two of us"</i>

1452
01:50:04,876 --> 01:50:07,436
<i>He screamed, and down the road he ran away</i>

1453
01:50:08,079 --> 01:50:09,774
<i>Thought I was a communist</i>

1454
01:50:12,717 --> 01:50:16,551
He was Charlie Chaplin
He was Dylan Thomas</i>

1455
01:50:17,054 --> 01:50:20,615
<i>He talked like Woody Guthrie
He moves all the time</i>

1456
01:50:22,026 --> 01:50:25,154
<i>...more time has passed and now we will see</i>

1457
01:50:25,263 --> 01:50:27,424
<i>Everyone dreams dreams</i>

1458
01:50:27,531 --> 01:50:32,161
<i>Everyone sees themselves
Walking around without anyone else</i>

1459
01:50:33,905 --> 01:50:37,534
<i>And all people can be
Partially right some of the time

1460
01:50:39,076 --> 01:50:42,011
<i>Some people can be
Some of the time</i>are right

1461
01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:45,615
<i>But all people cannot be
are right all the time</i>

1462
01:50:46,651 --> 01:50:48,448
<i>Abraham Lincoln said it</i>

1463
01:50:49,654 --> 01:50:52,316
<i>I will let you be in my dream
If I could be yours</i>

1464
01:50:52,423 --> 01:50:53,720
<i> That's what I said </i>

1465
01:50:55,192 --> 01:50:59,492
<i>In old Irish mythology
They talk about "the changelings" (who change their form)</i>

1466
01:50:59,997 --> 01:51:03,330
<i>He changed voices
He changed his appearance

1467
01:51:04,168 --> 01:51:08,195
...it was not necessary for him to be

1468
01:51:08,306 --> 01:51:10,297
אדם מובהק

1469
01:51:10,542 --> 01:51:13,039
he was an active listener (receiver)

1470
01:51:13,911 --> 01:51:15,811
He was possessed

1471
01:51:16,380 --> 01:51:19,781
...and he drafted

1472
01:51:21,185 --> 01:51:24,780
What we all wanted to say
But we couldn't say

1473
01:51:25,056 --> 01:51:29,820
<i>In several ways must man pass</i>

1474
01:51:31,963 --> 01:51:36,491
<i>"Before you call him "Adam</i>

1475
01:51:38,703 --> 01:51:43,436
<i>Over several days a dove has to sail</i>

1476
01:51:45,743 --> 01:51:50,373
<i>before you find rest on the beach</i>

1477
01:51:51,148 --> 01:51:53,514
<i>...it's almost enough to make you</i>

1478
01:51:53,617 --> 01:51:57,576
To believe in Jung's idea
"On the "collective unconscious

1479
01:51:58,756 --> 01:52:01,850
If there is an American
collective unconscious

1480
01:52:01,959 --> 01:52:04,484
if you could believe it
...in something like that

1481
01:52:04,595 --> 01:52:07,029
that Bobby somehow connected to it

1482
01:52:08,232 --> 01:52:10,427
...and always have been

1483
01:52:12,136 --> 01:52:14,730
Sometimes, subtle hints

1484
01:52:19,977 --> 01:52:22,172
By taking all the elements
that I ever knew

1485
01:52:22,279 --> 01:52:25,874
make sweeping statements
...which conveyed a feeling

1486
01:52:25,983 --> 01:52:29,384
That was the general gist
of the zeitgeist

1487
01:52:31,255 --> 01:52:33,382
I think I managed to do it

1488
01:52:33,958 --> 01:52:37,359
I thought I should press on and keep going

1489
01:52:37,762 --> 01:52:40,856
And get into it as far as I could

1490
01:52:41,332 --> 01:52:46,099
<i>Carried in the Spirit</i>

1491
01:52:57,548 --> 01:53:02,247
I mean he has his finger
On the pulse of our generation

1492
01:53:03,354 --> 01:53:04,685
<i>Bob Dylan</i>

1493
01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:12,960
There will be singing throughout the night
in the town of Newport

1494
01:53:19,028 --> 01:53:23,998
I'm looking for a place that will collect and tell
And bathe, and bring the dog back

1495
01:53:24,067 --> 01:53:29,065
"KN1-7727, cigarettes and tobacco"

1496
01:53:30,039 --> 01:53:33,076
Buy animals and birds
or sold on commission

1497
01:53:33,890 --> 01:53:36,590
I need a dog to pick up and clean the tub
and return the cigarettes

1498
01:53:37,930 --> 01:53:42,057
and give tobacco to my animals
Then give my birds a commission

1499
01:53:42,467 --> 01:53:45,164
...I'm looking for someone to sell my dog

1500
01:53:45,704 --> 01:53:48,833
Will pick up my haircut, buy my animal
And straighten my bird

1501
01:53:49,041 --> 01:53:52,533
I am looking for a place to bathe my bird

1502
01:53:52,613 --> 01:53:56,311
Will buy my dog, pick up my haircut

1503
01:53:56,450 --> 01:53:58,413
Sell me cigarettes and order my bath

1504
01:53:58,820 --> 01:54:01,245
אני מחפש מקום
who is going to collect my commission

1505
01:54:01,256 --> 01:54:04,883
sell my dog, burn my bird
and sell me for a cigarette

1506
01:54:04,994 --> 01:54:10,127
Going to horn my buy, collect my will
and wash my commission

1507
01:54:10,165 --> 01:54:13,458
אני מחפש מקום
May he bring liveliness to my soul

1508
01:54:13,569 --> 01:54:17,105
Knit my back, wash my feet
and pick up my dog

1509
01:54:17,106 --> 01:54:21,667
Make me toil to sell my animals
To bird, trim and buy my bath

1510
01:54:21,879 --> 01:54:22,876
and bring me back to cigarettes

1511
01:54:25,726 --> 01:54:29,626
London England 1966

1512
01:54:30,127 --> 01:54:36,227
? What happened to Woody Gerthry Bob?

1513
01:54:36,328 --> 01:54:39,229
Oh really, these are all protest songs

1514
01:54:42,970 --> 01:54:47,600
This is not British music
This is American music. Now, come on

1515
01:54:57,241 --> 01:55:02,636
When you are lost in the rain in Juarez

1516
01:55:02,846 --> 01:55:05,872
And in addition to all this is Easter

1517
01:55:08,987 --> 01:55:12,081
And gravity fails

1518
01:55:12,323 --> 01:55:14,986
And negativity doesn't lead you

1519
01:55:18,652 --> 01:55:21,383
Don't act arrogant

1520
01:55:22,089 --> 01:55:26,549
When you're down Rue Morgue

1521
01:55:29,498 --> 01:55:32,695
There are hungry women there

1522
01:55:32,801 --> 01:55:36,169
And they will really mess you up

1523
01:55:44,625 --> 01:55:47,525
Come on, I'm not doing this to you

1524
01:55:47,626 --> 01:55:48,185
Sweet Melinda

1525
01:55:48,829 --> 01:55:52,356
The peasants call her the goddess of sadness

1526
01:55:54,841 --> 01:55:57,741
she speaks good english

1527
01:55:58,841 --> 01:56:01,041
?Can I see the tips of your left fingers please?

1528
01:56:01,042 --> 01:56:01,742
?My left fingertips

1529
01:56:01,744 --> 01:56:03,735
Yes, let me feel them -
Unbelievable, man.

1530
01:56:03,746 --> 01:56:04,046
What

1531
01:56:04,147 --> 01:56:07,941
?Left fingertips
I wouldn't even show you my right hand

1532
01:56:08,921 --> 01:56:10,921
You don't play the guitar with your right hand

1533
01:56:12,122 --> 01:56:14,818
Collection is angelic

1534
01:56:14,925 --> 01:56:18,259
who arrived here now from the coast

1535
01:56:21,633 --> 01:56:24,467
You look so good at first

1536
01:56:25,638 --> 01:56:30,406
But left looking like a ghost

1537
01:56:33,747 --> 01:56:34,805
! Bob

1538
01:56:45,601 --> 01:56:47,001
You don't sing protest songs anymore

1539
01:56:47,101 --> 01:56:48,901
?Who said that?

1540
01:56:49,001 --> 01:56:52,101
All my songs
They are protest songs

1541
01:56:52,402 --> 01:56:55,269
....Each and every one of them, that

1542
01:56:58,042 --> 01:57:00,101
, everything I do
It's a protest

1543
01:57:02,727 --> 01:57:06,327
three years before

1544
01:57:15,828 --> 01:57:19,925
The march on Washington was not just
A moment of extreme hope

1545
01:57:20,033 --> 01:57:23,867
It was a moment of confirmation of the possibility

1546
01:57:24,371 --> 01:57:26,567
of this hope to become a reality

1547
01:57:26,674 --> 01:57:31,373
...that was the moment of realization

1548
01:57:31,546 --> 01:57:34,380
About what people can do
to change history

1549
01:57:34,717 --> 01:57:36,344
i have a dream

1550
01:57:37,253 --> 01:57:38,778
A day will come

1551
01:57:39,923 --> 01:57:42,323
And this nation will rise

1552
01:57:43,627 --> 01:57:46,119
to live the true meaning of her faith

1553
01:57:47,398 --> 01:57:50,162
We believe that these truths are self-evident

1554
01:57:50,802 --> 01:57:52,771
All men are created equal

1555
01:57:52,871 --> 01:57:55,567
I was close
When King gave this speech

1556
01:57:56,041 --> 01:57:58,839
To this day it still affects me
in a deep way

1557
01:57:59,445 --> 01:58:02,472
And now, I want to introduce
young singer

1558
01:58:03,383 --> 01:58:06,147
From New York - Bob Dylan

1559
01:58:11,091 --> 01:58:13,082
I looked at the podium
I looked out into the crowd

1560
01:58:13,194 --> 01:58:14,628
: and I remember thinking to myself

1561
01:58:14,729 --> 01:58:17,220
"Man, I've never seen a crowd this big"

1562
01:58:17,332 --> 01:58:21,770
Oh, the time will come
when the winds calm down

1563
01:58:21,871 --> 01:58:25,329
And the wind will hold its breath

1564
01:58:26,175 --> 01:58:30,510
Like the silence in the wind
before the hurricane starts

1565
01:58:30,814 --> 01:58:34,079
The time the ship will arrive

1566
01:58:34,552 --> 01:58:38,716
Free at last, free at last
Thank you almighty

1567
01:58:38,823 --> 01:58:40,290
We are finally free

1568
01:58:41,025 --> 01:58:45,122
and the wise men of the ship
You will be reminded again

1569
01:58:45,231 --> 01:58:50,135
The whole wide world is watching

1570
01:58:54,808 --> 01:58:58,540
He would take characters and insert them
A life that you can understand

1571
01:58:59,847 --> 01:59:04,182
So even if he never considered himself
.as a protest singer, he was a protest singer

1572
01:59:04,987 --> 01:59:08,252
And he saw what was happening
around him

1573
01:59:08,925 --> 01:59:11,985
And so did everyone else
...what is happening around them

1574
01:59:12,095 --> 01:59:13,858
But he was the first to voice it

1575
01:59:14,597 --> 01:59:17,863
"Heavy rain is about to fall"
Says something is going to happen

1576
01:59:22,908 --> 01:59:27,038
Where have you been, all-eyed children?

1577
01:59:30,583 --> 01:59:33,950
And where have you been my little child?

1578
01:59:38,458 --> 01:59:43,225
I got tangled up in the side of a dozen misty mountains

1579
01:59:46,367 --> 01:59:51,101
I walked and crawled on six crooked roads

1580
01:59:54,176 --> 01:59:59,114
I have stepped inside seven sad forests

1581
02:00:02,285 --> 02:00:07,189
I was at the forefront of a dozen dead oceans

1582
02:00:10,127 --> 02:00:15,088
I was ten thousand miles away
Inside the mouth of a cemetery

1583
02:00:15,901 --> 02:00:19,429
And it's hard .. and it's heavy

1584
02:00:20,306 --> 02:00:24,140
And it's heavy, and it's heavy

1585
02:00:24,510 --> 02:00:25,808
And that

1586
02:00:25,913 --> 02:00:28,404
He was shot! Oswald was shot

1587
02:00:28,549 --> 02:00:33,487
Heavy rain is about to fall...

1588
02:00:33,989 --> 02:00:38,949
We were going to change the world
to a decent and better place

1589
02:00:40,162 --> 02:00:43,757
But this loss
I think it traumatized the nation terribly

1590
02:00:50,841 --> 02:00:53,333
...the Emergency Union for Civil Liberties

1591
02:00:53,444 --> 02:00:56,675
There were people who really were
very involved

1592
02:00:56,781 --> 02:01:00,047
In progressive politics, there were idealists

1593
02:01:00,152 --> 02:01:02,916
that they had a dream of fairness and justice

1594
02:01:03,022 --> 02:01:07,289
Well, here's Bobby, he's 21 years old
Or whatever, he goes up there

1595
02:01:07,727 --> 02:01:11,959
And they give him a reward
And his discomfort was extraordinary

1596
02:01:12,899 --> 02:01:16,028
And he pointed a finger at them
and he said

1597
02:01:17,505 --> 02:01:20,269
I don't have a guitar
But I can talk

1598
02:01:20,374 --> 02:01:22,502
I want to thank you
for the Tom Paine Award

1599
02:01:22,611 --> 02:01:25,102
on behalf of everyone
who went down to Cuba

1600
02:01:25,213 --> 02:01:29,207
First of all, because they are all young
And it took me a long time to be young

1601
02:01:29,318 --> 02:01:32,253
And now I consider myself young
And I'm proud of it

1602
02:01:32,855 --> 02:01:34,551
I am proud to be young

1603
02:01:34,758 --> 02:01:37,727
And I just wish for all people
who are sitting here tonight

1604
02:01:37,828 --> 02:01:41,492
Let them not be here, and I will be able to see
A new face with hair on the head

1605
02:01:41,599 --> 02:01:44,796
And all sorts of similar things
Because everything leads to young women

1606
02:01:45,203 --> 02:01:47,933
You know, they tried to catalog me
As a typical songwriter

1607
02:01:48,039 --> 02:01:50,736
I was never a typical song writer
...in the first place

1608
02:01:50,843 --> 02:01:53,277
...for whatever reason they did it

1609
02:01:53,813 --> 02:01:57,545
...there were reasons not really
It didn't really suit me

1610
02:01:57,651 --> 02:02:00,779
Old men, when their hair falls out
They are the ones who should leave

1611
02:02:00,887 --> 02:02:03,186
I look to see who the people are
who manage me

1612
02:02:03,291 --> 02:02:06,385
And they set the rules for me
And they don't have hair on their heads

1613
02:02:06,494 --> 02:02:08,223
I am very upset about this

1614
02:02:08,329 --> 02:02:11,527
There is no more black and white for me
left and right

1615
02:02:11,900 --> 02:02:15,336
There is only up or down
And down it is very close to the ground

1616
02:02:15,671 --> 02:02:20,473
And I try to go up without thinking
About anything trivial, like politics

1617
02:02:21,644 --> 02:02:25,274
The evening where Dylan
Received the Freedom Award

1618
02:02:25,382 --> 02:02:28,044
from the Civil Emergency Organization
Freedoms Committee

1619
02:02:28,452 --> 02:02:32,389
He actually stood up, stood on his hind legs
and declared that he was not a political poet

1620
02:02:32,491 --> 02:02:35,289
And not a servant of the left

1621
02:02:35,660 --> 02:02:39,153
But a freelance traveling singer or something

1622
02:02:39,766 --> 02:02:42,234
and amazed and angered everyone

1623
02:02:42,335 --> 02:02:45,305
In that he is not a tame and nice seal

1624
02:02:45,672 --> 02:02:49,699
People expected him to give
the same thing over and over again

1625
02:02:50,210 --> 02:02:55,080
In an accurate way, and an accurate theory
Accurately, and it's getting scary

1626
02:02:55,216 --> 02:03:00,086
Because why would you have to push yourself into a tunnel that is not yours?

1627
02:03:00,189 --> 02:03:03,056
I mean, you travel
And all these roads are ahead of you

1628
02:03:03,259 --> 02:03:06,991
Why you should choose this tunnel
and enter it, and it is really a tunnel

1629
02:03:07,097 --> 02:03:09,725
?Because it is political in its theory

1630
02:03:09,900 --> 02:03:11,620
While you're out there, driving around

1631
02:03:11,702 --> 02:03:14,967
With all the other scenery going on here, that's what you bring

1632
02:03:15,072 --> 02:03:17,540
I was like an outsider anyway

1633
02:03:17,642 --> 02:03:21,272
I came to the city as an outsider
...and still, in many ways

1634
02:03:21,380 --> 02:03:24,543
I was still more out of the loop
Than I ever was, really

1635
02:03:24,850 --> 02:03:28,082
They tried to make me part of the circle
Because of some "trip" they were on

1636
02:03:28,221 --> 02:03:29,552
It didn't suit me

1637
02:03:38,766 --> 02:03:42,294
Through the crazy mystical noise

1638
02:03:42,537 --> 02:03:46,235
of the wild tearing hail

1639
02:03:46,676 --> 02:03:50,134
The sky burst into their songs

1640
02:03:50,246 --> 02:03:52,976
in open astonishment

1641
02:03:55,018 --> 02:03:58,852
When the church bells rang

1642
02:03:58,956 --> 02:04:02,620
We will ride away into the night

1643
02:04:02,727 --> 02:04:06,663
and left only lightning bells

1644
02:04:06,764 --> 02:04:09,063
and their thunders

1645
02:04:12,338 --> 02:04:15,672
Beating for the gentle

1646
02:04:16,576 --> 02:04:19,977
Hitting for the kind

1647
02:04:20,714 --> 02:04:24,014
Beating for the guards

1648
02:04:24,118 --> 02:04:27,885
and on the protectors of the soul

1649
02:04:28,257 --> 02:04:31,852
and a poet and a painter

1650
02:04:31,960 --> 02:04:36,057
The ones far from their righteous time

1651
02:04:36,332 --> 02:04:38,527
And we looked

1652
02:04:38,635 --> 02:04:41,969
in the glittering bells of liberty

1653
02:04:48,479 --> 02:04:51,972
- There was a concert in Lviv
Santa Monica Civic Auditorium

1654
02:04:52,083 --> 02:04:55,177
where he told everyone how he was
...and Wirth and they drove off

1655
02:04:55,287 --> 02:04:58,815
throughout the country and he sang the
"The Bells of Liberty"

1656
02:04:59,025 --> 02:05:00,219
And it was amazing

1657
02:05:04,064 --> 02:05:07,898
, after the show
.suddenly we found ourselves trapped

1658
02:05:08,001 --> 02:05:10,698
There was a pressure of people outside

1659
02:05:10,905 --> 02:05:14,966
We got into the car
...and then all the people came quickly

1660
02:05:15,076 --> 02:05:19,309
to the car, and slowly we started...
move the vehicle out

1661
02:05:19,548 --> 02:05:23,508
...and I turned around and saw
There was an amplifier and his guitars

1662
02:05:23,620 --> 02:05:27,716
and their luggage in the back with some
A tarp over him, and I saw the tarp move

1663
02:05:27,824 --> 02:05:30,623
Two young girls were hiding
under the tarpaulin

1664
02:05:30,728 --> 02:05:33,629
So we had to stop and gently "throw" them

1665
02:05:33,831 --> 02:05:36,265
and of course
Then all the people pressed around

1666
02:05:46,980 --> 02:05:48,106
Bobby!

1667
02:05:52,786 --> 02:05:55,414
Suddenly he became an idol

1668
02:05:55,756 --> 02:05:59,352
This was the beginning that people
They started wanting more of him

1669
02:05:59,461 --> 02:06:01,861
you know
As if the songs alone are not enough for them

1670
02:06:02,897 --> 02:06:05,594
Everyone wanted to sleep at Bobby's

1671
02:06:07,003 --> 02:06:08,493
Make out with Bobby

1672
02:06:08,604 --> 02:06:13,201
The honor went to Bobby
But it was also because of what he created

1673
02:06:13,310 --> 02:06:15,870
And everyone wanted to get close to it

1674
02:06:15,979 --> 02:06:20,679
The desire to be next to him created
A huge magnet that attracted everyone

1675
02:06:21,886 --> 02:06:23,376
young and old

1676
02:06:23,588 --> 02:06:27,616
Genius creates its own rules
And Dylan is a genius

1677
02:06:27,726 --> 02:06:31,719
Conscience sings and is a moral judge
and a preacher

1678
02:06:31,830 --> 02:06:34,732
He is also a very embarrassed young man
...now that

1679
02:06:34,834 --> 02:06:38,668
It's always awkward to sit there
When your feet are in the concrete

1680
02:06:38,772 --> 02:06:42,140
while someone compliments you
whether casually or abundantly

1681
02:06:44,278 --> 02:06:48,375
But, I read several stories
About Bob in the afternoon

1682
02:06:48,483 --> 02:06:50,474
And they are all of this type

1683
02:06:52,387 --> 02:06:54,856
Comment in "Billboard".
: the professional journal, she says

1684
02:06:54,957 --> 02:06:57,790
Dylan's poetry is born
painful awareness

1685
02:06:57,894 --> 02:07:01,626
of the underlying tragedy"
"In his current human condition

1686
02:07:01,732 --> 02:07:04,860
...Bob, do you part-sing your songs

1687
02:07:04,968 --> 02:07:07,437
and partly other people's songs
?Or where do you get your materials from?

1688
02:07:07,539 --> 02:07:10,633
- Well, they're all mine, now -
?You sing all your own material-

1689
02:07:10,742 --> 02:07:13,540
And how long have you been writing?
?Your music

1690
02:07:14,980 --> 02:07:17,471
About two years

1691
02:07:19,318 --> 02:07:23,255
He became what he is
Because there were things that needed to be said

1692
02:07:23,356 --> 02:07:26,553
And the young people were these
who wanted to say them

1693
02:07:26,860 --> 02:07:29,762
Somehow he had a listening ear
to his generation

1694
02:07:29,964 --> 02:07:33,661
I don't need to tell you
You know him, he's yours, Bob Dylan

1695
02:07:37,806 --> 02:07:40,570
I'm not looking to compete with you

1696
02:07:40,943 --> 02:07:44,710
hit, cheat or abuse you

1697
02:07:45,281 --> 02:07:49,343
To simplify you, to catalog you

1698
02:07:49,553 --> 02:07:53,683
reject, resist or crucify you

1699
02:07:53,791 --> 02:07:56,784
The thing I really want to do

1700
02:07:58,964 --> 02:08:02,127
This, baby, is to be your friend

1701
02:08:16,751 --> 02:08:17,979
I want to say thank you

1702
02:08:18,086 --> 02:08:21,351
I want to say thank you
I want to say thank you, I love you

1703
02:08:21,456 --> 02:08:25,587
Well, no use sitting around wondering why, honey

1704
02:08:27,630 --> 02:08:30,190
If you don't know by now

1705
02:08:30,467 --> 02:08:34,267
"Johnny Cash was more like a religious figure to me"

1706
02:08:35,038 --> 02:08:38,566
"And there he was "in Newport
You know, standing side by side

1707
02:08:38,943 --> 02:08:41,275
The meeting with him was a record
The thrill of life

1708
02:08:41,379 --> 02:08:44,474
And yes, just the fact
...that he sang one of my songs

1709
02:08:44,583 --> 02:08:47,916
"It was just unimaginable"

1710
02:08:48,153 --> 02:08:52,523
Johnny Cash and John Carter arrived
...after Bob voiced

1711
02:08:52,625 --> 02:08:55,321
Three songs on tape for him
on this little portable tape

1712
02:08:55,428 --> 02:08:57,555
Johnny called him out into the hall

1713
02:08:59,133 --> 02:09:03,263
And Bob came back a few minutes later
: He held the guitar and he says

1714
02:09:03,370 --> 02:09:04,997
"!! He gave me his guitar"

1715
02:09:05,106 --> 02:09:07,426
"Navirath said: 'Wow, that's an old country tradition.'"

1716
02:09:07,509 --> 02:09:10,137
If someone gives you a guitar
It's a great honor, you know

1717
02:09:10,412 --> 02:09:13,041
"It's called Hey, Mr. Tambourine Man"

1718
02:09:14,083 --> 02:09:15,983
"Please play me a song"

1719
02:09:20,324 --> 02:09:25,057
Hey, Mr. Tambourine Man, play me a song

1720
02:09:25,596 --> 02:09:30,091
I'm not sleepy, and there's nowhere I'm going

1721
02:09:31,636 --> 02:09:36,336
Hey, Mr. Tambourine Man, play me a song

1722
02:09:37,009 --> 02:09:39,705
in the morning playing

1723
02:09:39,846 --> 02:09:42,406
I will follow you

1724
02:09:47,121 --> 02:09:50,488
Although I know that the empire of the afternoon

1725
02:09:50,591 --> 02:09:52,855
Back to being sand

1726
02:09:53,829 --> 02:09:58,528
gone too
left me standing here blind

1727
02:09:58,634 --> 02:10:00,569
And I still don't sleep

1728
02:10:02,138 --> 02:10:04,971
My exhaustion amazes me

1729
02:10:05,074 --> 02:10:07,509
I am marked on my feet

1730
02:10:08,078 --> 02:10:10,376
I have no one to meet

1731
02:10:10,481 --> 02:10:15,419
and the ancient and empty street
too dead to dream

1732
02:10:16,488 --> 02:10:21,152
When Bob started ignoring topical materials
It bothered me

1733
02:10:21,427 --> 02:10:24,089
?Because he wrote such wonderful material, you know

1734
02:10:26,132 --> 02:10:29,660
And suddenly, when he stopped it
It was like he was going to disappear

1735
02:10:30,337 --> 02:10:34,330
from the political consciousness
that we felt we were all part of it

1736
02:10:34,441 --> 02:10:37,240
...it can be attributed to turning to a commercial direction

1737
02:10:38,646 --> 02:10:42,583
As a departure from that, and it bothered us

1738
02:10:43,252 --> 02:10:46,221
Then take me to disappear

1739
02:10:46,322 --> 02:10:48,950
Through the smoke rings in my mind

1740
02:10:49,359 --> 02:10:51,919
To the misty ruins of time

1741
02:10:52,662 --> 02:10:55,062
Far beyond the frozen leaves

1742
02:10:55,432 --> 02:10:58,266
The scary and fearful trees

1743
02:10:58,569 --> 02:11:00,764
Out to the windy beach

1744
02:11:00,871 --> 02:11:05,536
Away from the twisted achievement of crazy sadness

1745
02:11:06,845 --> 02:11:10,407
Yes, dancing under the diamond sky

1746
02:11:10,516 --> 02:11:12,882
with one hand waving freely

1747
02:11:12,985 --> 02:11:15,749
In silhouette in front of the sea

1748
02:11:15,855 --> 02:11:18,450
surrounded by the sands of the circus

1749
02:11:18,792 --> 02:11:21,556
With all the memory and fate

1750
02:11:21,862 --> 02:11:24,593
Rolled deep beneath the waves

1751
02:11:24,766 --> 02:11:27,633
let me forget the day

1752
02:11:27,736 --> 02:11:29,863
until tomorrow

1753
02:11:31,307 --> 02:11:34,174
An artist must be careful
Not really getting anywhere

1754
02:11:34,276 --> 02:11:35,800
where he thinks he is "in" somewhere

1755
02:11:35,911 --> 02:11:38,881
You always have to understand
that you are all the time

1756
02:11:38,982 --> 02:11:41,109
"in the state of "being
you understand

1757
02:11:42,219 --> 02:11:46,054
And as soon as you can stay in this kingdom
You'll somehow be okay

1758
02:11:47,592 --> 02:11:51,586
I can't analyze my own work
...and I wasn't ready to spoil the audience

1759
02:11:51,697 --> 02:11:55,463
Because I knew there were people who would like it
And some won't like it

1760
02:11:55,567 --> 02:11:57,501
I walked in the door
when no one was looking

1761
02:11:57,603 --> 02:12:00,732
I was there now
And there was nothing that anyone

1762
02:12:00,840 --> 02:12:03,001
from that moment on
No one could do anything about it

1763
02:12:03,309 --> 02:12:08,145
There is a time when the operation of the machine
becomes a hateful one

1764
02:12:08,949 --> 02:12:12,386
makes you so heart sick
that you cannot take part

1765
02:12:12,487 --> 02:12:16,218
You can't even take part passively
...and you must put your body

1766
02:12:16,324 --> 02:12:20,921
on the gears and the wheels
On the levers, on the whole mechanism

1767
02:12:21,030 --> 02:12:24,261
And you have to stop it
And you have to show people

1768
02:12:24,367 --> 02:12:27,235
who run it, to the people who own it
if you are not free

1769
02:12:27,337 --> 02:12:30,329
The machine will not work at all

1770
02:12:30,845 --> 02:12:34,645
Mario Savio, Freedom of Speech Movement
University of California at Berkeley

1771
02:12:35,346 --> 02:12:39,077
The police caught Mario
They pull him away

1772
02:12:40,519 --> 02:12:42,350
...The police pulled Mario and took him away

1773
02:12:42,455 --> 02:12:47,223
We all felt those people first
They didn't understand it

1774
02:12:47,461 --> 02:12:48,985
We were surrounded

1775
02:12:50,163 --> 02:12:53,496
in people who were desensitized
for the need for change

1776
02:12:54,001 --> 02:12:57,061
And that is why Peter, Paul and Mary
...and Bob Dylan, Joan Baaz

1777
02:12:57,171 --> 02:13:01,404
They were all about the same age
and were in leadership positions

1778
02:13:01,510 --> 02:13:05,537
'Because there was recognition and identification among the college students

1779
02:13:07,082 --> 02:13:08,846
I felt it all over America

1780
02:13:09,018 --> 02:13:13,216
You know, wherever you went in America
You felt something happen

1781
02:13:13,323 --> 02:13:15,053
...in an Olympic way, sort of

1782
02:13:15,326 --> 02:13:17,419
where the children were beyond the control of their parents

1783
02:13:17,528 --> 02:13:20,258
...he tried to exercise freedom of speech

1784
02:13:21,700 --> 02:13:25,534
...around that time, I was painting at Berkeley

1785
02:13:25,637 --> 02:13:28,162
And the phone rang
And I think it was in 1964

1786
02:13:28,273 --> 02:13:29,833
:The phone rang, it was Bob and he said

1787
02:13:29,942 --> 02:13:32,069
I have to do these shows"
"?Do you want to come?

1788
02:13:32,178 --> 02:13:34,339
"I said, "Look, I draw pictures

1789
02:13:34,447 --> 02:13:38,145
"He said, "I'll buy you a leather jacket
And he said, and also all the colors you need

1790
02:13:38,252 --> 02:13:41,119
The next thing I did
was to get on the plane

1791
02:13:41,722 --> 02:13:43,486
And I flew to New York

1792
02:13:43,591 --> 02:13:47,652
...in those days, an artistic success

1793
02:13:48,730 --> 02:13:50,460
She was not motivated by money

1794
02:13:52,635 --> 02:13:55,695
...these were simpler days

1795
02:13:56,238 --> 02:14:00,039
If you had something to say
...which was

1796
02:14:00,777 --> 02:14:02,938
...mainly, the way people were ranked

1797
02:14:03,514 --> 02:14:05,812
: they would say
"Have you seen Ornette Coleman?"

1798
02:14:05,917 --> 02:14:07,384
"Does he have anything to say"

1799
02:14:07,485 --> 02:14:10,683
And it was the same thing, like
With Bob or anyone else

1800
02:14:10,789 --> 02:14:12,484
?Do they have anything to say or not?

1801
02:14:12,858 --> 02:14:16,385
Darkness at noon
Shadows even on the silver spoon

1802
02:14:16,495 --> 02:14:18,964
Handmade knife blade, child's balloon

1803
02:14:19,065 --> 02:14:23,001
A solar and lunar eclipse
Too early to understand

1804
02:14:23,102 --> 02:14:24,866
There is no point or sense in trying

1805
02:14:33,148 --> 02:14:35,639
Direct threats are scorned

1806
02:14:35,817 --> 02:14:39,049
Suicide case reports are being torn up
From the mouth of the fool's gold, a hollow beam comes out

1807
02:14:39,155 --> 02:14:42,056
utters wasted words, proves to warn

1808
02:14:42,158 --> 02:14:44,592
My name is not busy with rebirth
busy dying

1809
02:14:49,466 --> 02:14:51,331
No one had heard anything like this before

1810
02:14:51,435 --> 02:14:54,234
No one had heard anything like this before

1811
02:14:54,906 --> 02:14:57,101
It passed by word of mouth

1812
02:14:57,475 --> 02:15:00,912
And by the way, an audience of 1,200 people
...not such a big crowd

1813
02:15:01,013 --> 02:15:02,503
If you stop and think about it

1814
02:15:02,615 --> 02:15:05,049
That's about the amount of people
who are waiting for the train

1815
02:15:05,150 --> 02:15:07,176
in Sheridan Square now

1816
02:15:08,021 --> 02:15:10,319
While preachers preach about bad destinies

1817
02:15:10,423 --> 02:15:13,689
Teachers teach that knowledge awaits
Can lead to hundred dollar plates

1818
02:15:13,794 --> 02:15:17,423
The good hides behind its gates
But even the President of the United States

1819
02:15:17,531 --> 02:15:19,932
Sometimes he had to stand naked

1820
02:15:21,436 --> 02:15:24,234
About the same time he asked me
...if I want to go with him to

1821
02:15:24,339 --> 02:15:27,002
He had a meeting in Chicago

1822
02:15:27,110 --> 02:15:28,509
do i want to join

1823
02:15:28,611 --> 02:15:31,944
What amazed me was
which he was at the same time

1824
02:15:32,048 --> 02:15:34,779
Or he became identical with his soul

1825
02:15:35,853 --> 02:15:40,791
And Dylan became a spiritual being
So called, at certain moments

1826
02:15:41,359 --> 02:15:44,817
in which all the physical concentration
...and his mental was

1827
02:15:45,597 --> 02:15:50,001
That one breath that leaves his body

1828
02:15:50,469 --> 02:15:54,702
He found a way in the public
Being almost like a spiritual guide

1829
02:15:55,375 --> 02:15:58,276
with all his intelligence and awareness

1830
02:15:59,012 --> 02:16:00,877
concentrated on his breath

1831
02:16:01,215 --> 02:16:04,241
So don't be afraid if you hear

1832
02:16:05,286 --> 02:16:08,745
A foreign sound to your ear

1833
02:16:12,127 --> 02:16:14,061
It's okay, mom

1834
02:16:17,000 --> 02:16:18,558
I just sigh

1835
02:16:23,474 --> 02:16:26,534
He was more and more engaged in writing prose
I think, even at that time

1836
02:16:26,644 --> 02:16:28,509
...I think he spent more time

1837
02:16:28,612 --> 02:16:30,137
...really sits and writes things

1838
02:16:30,248 --> 02:16:31,888
that he didn't necessarily mean to sing

1839
02:16:31,917 --> 02:16:34,317
And then find out that part of it
Can also be sung

1840
02:16:34,453 --> 02:16:37,981
The truth about war and peace is simply distorted

1841
02:16:38,458 --> 02:16:41,018
The seagull glides, free but bound by lies

1842
02:16:47,468 --> 02:16:51,200
On four-legged forest clouds

1843
02:16:51,439 --> 02:16:54,237
The cowboy angel rides

1844
02:16:56,545 --> 02:16:58,342
...the ideal performance of the songs

1845
02:16:58,447 --> 02:17:00,540
Later they reached the stage
around the world

1846
02:17:01,250 --> 02:17:04,277
Very few can be found
In my albums

1847
02:17:04,688 --> 02:17:08,488
...every second, every... you know

1848
02:17:08,658 --> 02:17:11,095
reach an audience -
That's the whole story

1849
02:17:11,195 --> 02:17:15,632
"Everything, except when under the trees of Eden"

1850
02:17:22,674 --> 02:17:26,975
No veils, curtains, doors, walls

1851
02:17:27,080 --> 02:17:31,176
everything in between
...everything that "spills" from Bob's hand

1852
02:17:31,285 --> 02:17:32,684
...to the page

1853
02:17:32,787 --> 02:17:37,622
And what is found in some way
available to the hearts of the people

1854
02:17:37,725 --> 02:17:40,820
those who believe in him

1855
02:17:40,929 --> 02:17:43,557
Some people said... not interested

1856
02:17:43,665 --> 02:17:47,193
But if you are interested, let me know
which goes really, really deep

1857
02:17:49,338 --> 02:17:53,207
Stay away from my home window

1858
02:17:53,343 --> 02:17:56,744
"Leave at the pace you chose for yourself"

1859
02:17:57,014 --> 02:17:58,379
A typical evening

1860
02:17:59,083 --> 02:18:01,210
I guess there will be a sound check

1861
02:18:01,886 --> 02:18:04,980
And here I am, dealing with some kind of mood

1862
02:18:05,089 --> 02:18:06,682
Bob is going to be found

1863
02:18:06,792 --> 02:18:09,761
I already did that, you know

1864
02:18:10,462 --> 02:18:13,864
And when he was happy and full of energy
It was just amazing

1865
02:18:14,301 --> 02:18:17,031
And when he was in a gloomy mood
There was no way to reach him

1866
02:18:17,137 --> 02:18:19,469
always strong

1867
02:18:19,841 --> 02:18:23,902
Bob seemed to ignore everything that came near him

1868
02:18:24,011 --> 02:18:25,603
He was capable of it
And I saw him do it

1869
02:18:25,713 --> 02:18:28,706
...to turn his back and play a whole song
Play two songs

1870
02:18:29,318 --> 02:18:31,582
Messing with the equipment on stage

1871
02:18:31,687 --> 02:18:33,177
without looking at the public

1872
02:18:33,288 --> 02:18:36,554
And it doesn't matter as it is
its magnetic attraction

1873
02:18:37,260 --> 02:18:39,100
It's like the audience wasn't even there

1874
02:18:39,195 --> 02:18:41,926
He's just going to do what he does
And he had to make this change

1875
02:18:42,032 --> 02:18:45,695
And he must be in motion, and he must add it
And he must turn up the sound

1876
02:18:45,803 --> 02:18:49,069
If you ever work with him you will see
that he performed this song yesterday at Wells

1877
02:18:49,174 --> 02:18:52,871
Tonight he will do it in 2/4 time
Just to confuse you, you know

1878
02:18:52,978 --> 02:18:55,504
...well, with someone who behaves like that

1879
02:18:56,482 --> 02:19:00,543
I just see it now
That was very unique

1880
02:19:00,987 --> 02:19:04,549
And that's impressive, and it's a headache
If you try to work with him

1881
02:19:04,658 --> 02:19:08,059
Or it's a headache
If you expected something else from him

1882
02:19:08,161 --> 02:19:10,995
...if everyone would really listen to their conscience

1883
02:19:11,099 --> 02:19:14,398
And if everyone really worked
...according to what he thought was right and wrong

1884
02:19:14,502 --> 02:19:17,529
than being so hopelessly passive

1885
02:19:17,640 --> 02:19:19,505
Which I think almost everyone does
He is like that

1886
02:19:19,608 --> 02:19:21,473
I think this is probably the main disease

1887
02:19:21,577 --> 02:19:25,309
This is the passivity, in which we will listen
to whatever anyone else says

1888
02:19:25,415 --> 02:19:29,284
It's dad, and mom, and a school teacher
and president

1889
02:19:33,758 --> 02:19:36,284
This is the essence of the Vietnam War

1890
02:19:40,666 --> 02:19:42,429
The adults and so young

1891
02:19:44,237 --> 02:19:48,367
'The Marines burned the cottage
of this old couple

1892
02:19:48,474 --> 02:19:50,943
Because the fire was fired from here

1893
02:19:51,879 --> 02:19:55,371
The result of today's action is
You burned 150 houses

1894
02:19:55,716 --> 02:19:58,447
Injured three women, killed one baby

1895
02:19:58,920 --> 02:20:03,152
Wounded one fighter
and captured these four captives

1896
02:20:03,558 --> 02:20:07,620
Four old men who could not
answer questions asked in English

1897
02:20:38,799 --> 02:20:42,428
I felt powerful
this political appeal

1898
02:20:42,737 --> 02:20:46,299
I thought what we both could do
? act together, you understand

1899
02:20:46,541 --> 02:20:49,305
...as far as some kind of movement is concerned, and that

1900
02:20:50,245 --> 02:20:53,704
And so, we
Our tour has come to an end

1901
02:20:54,117 --> 02:20:57,644
: and Bob said something like
'Hey, we have to perform at Carnegie Hall...'"

1902
02:20:57,987 --> 02:21:00,115
"Or in such a big place"

1903
02:21:00,224 --> 02:21:02,920
: And I said
"?And what are we going to do with it?"

1904
02:21:04,995 --> 02:21:07,794
And that was a pretty cold and alienating thing to say

1905
02:21:08,133 --> 02:21:09,998
...but then we really talked about

1906
02:21:10,902 --> 02:21:14,930
that he wanted to make his own music
And I wanted to do all the other things

1907
02:21:15,041 --> 02:21:17,373
And he said he didn't want to do it
All these "other things".

1908
02:21:17,476 --> 02:21:19,410
So it was pretty obvious

1909
02:21:19,512 --> 02:21:21,310
And I was really disappointed

1910
02:21:21,415 --> 02:21:25,715
Oh, my name is nothing

1911
02:21:27,288 --> 02:21:30,883
And my age is even less important

1912
02:21:31,659 --> 02:21:35,494
I mean, up until that moment he already is
Gave us the greatest songs

1913
02:21:35,697 --> 02:21:38,666
In our repertoire for the struggle against the war
and to civil rights

1914
02:21:39,234 --> 02:21:42,898
Thirty-something years, every time I go to a protest,
and various demonstrations

1915
02:21:43,006 --> 02:21:46,737
Or to 'being-in-protest', or to 'arrest-protesting'
"?People would ask, Bob is coming

1916
02:21:47,544 --> 02:21:50,309
: And I would answer
!He never comes, idiot

1917
02:21:50,581 --> 02:21:54,574
?You know, 'When will you figure it out?
You never understood, and you probably never will

1918
02:21:56,888 --> 02:21:58,378
...and so I think he is

1919
02:21:59,024 --> 02:22:02,290
I think he couldn't write songs
Like the ones he wrote

1920
02:22:02,395 --> 02:22:06,229
If he didn't feel in general
I think, in a way, for the underdog

1921
02:22:07,366 --> 02:22:11,701
But I think he didn't want to be
The person everyone will turn to

1922
02:22:11,905 --> 02:22:14,396
I mean that the times then
Be simple and clear

1923
02:22:14,508 --> 02:22:16,704
You were either in favor of the war
or against the war

1924
02:22:16,811 --> 02:22:20,679
Or you hate black people
Or you supported Martin Luther King

1925
02:22:21,316 --> 02:22:23,342
And you had to choose a side

1926
02:22:31,828 --> 02:22:34,262
Johnny is in the basement mixing the medicine

1927
02:22:34,364 --> 02:22:36,993
I'm on the sidewalk
Thinking about the government

1928
02:22:37,101 --> 02:22:40,127
The man in the long coat
With a badge, fired

1929
02:22:40,238 --> 02:22:42,968
Says he has a bad cough
I want to be compensated for it

1930
02:22:43,074 --> 02:22:45,339
Boy beware
It's something you did

1931
02:22:45,444 --> 02:22:47,810
Only God knows when
But you do it again

1932
02:22:47,913 --> 02:22:49,608
You better duck in the alley

1933
02:22:49,715 --> 02:22:50,910
Looking for a new friend

1934
02:22:51,017 --> 02:22:53,008
The man with the fur hat
next to the big pen

1935
02:22:53,119 --> 02:22:56,088
Want $11 bills
But you only have 10

1936
02:23:01,896 --> 02:23:05,025
Maggie comes with quick steps
with a face full of black soot

1937
02:23:05,133 --> 02:23:07,499
She talks about the police pressing
Plant evidence in bed, though

1938
02:23:07,602 --> 02:23:10,127
In any case, the phone is tapped
Maggie says a lot of people say

1939
02:23:10,238 --> 02:23:12,901
They must break in early May
Instructions from the district attorney

1940
02:23:13,009 --> 02:23:15,671
Boy, be careful
No matter what you did

1941
02:23:15,778 --> 02:23:18,407
tiptoe
Do not try "no-dose" (energy pills)

1942
02:23:18,515 --> 02:23:21,313
Better to stay away from those
carrying a fire hose

1943
02:23:21,418 --> 02:23:24,046
Keep a clean nose
"Pay attention to the people" about the citizens

1944
02:23:24,154 --> 02:23:27,921
You don't need a fortune teller
To know where the wind blows

1945
02:23:28,426 --> 02:23:30,860
Words have their own meaning
Or they have different meanings

1946
02:23:30,962 --> 02:23:32,863
And words change their meaning

1947
02:23:32,965 --> 02:23:35,866
Words that had meaning 10 years ago
Don't say them now

1948
02:23:35,968 --> 02:23:37,026
Now they say something else

1949
02:23:37,136 --> 02:23:39,128
Don't steal, don't pick up
Twenty years of studies

1950
02:23:39,239 --> 02:23:40,866
And they put you on day shift

1951
02:23:40,974 --> 02:23:43,272
Be careful, kid
They keep everything a secret

1952
02:23:43,376 --> 02:23:46,369
Better to jump into a sewer
Light a candle for you

1953
02:23:46,480 --> 02:23:49,472
Do not wear sandals
Try to avoid the dangers

1954
02:23:49,584 --> 02:23:51,677
Don't want to be a bum
You better chew gum

1955
02:23:51,786 --> 02:23:54,813
The pump is not working
Because the vandals stole the handles

1956
02:23:56,658 --> 02:23:58,250
"Underground Nostalgic Blues"
...I mean

1957
02:23:58,360 --> 02:24:00,420
I don't think I would want to do that
all alone

1958
02:24:00,530 --> 02:24:05,160
I thought it would have more power
If there is a small "band" that will stand behind me

1959
02:24:05,368 --> 02:24:09,396
It was electric
...but that doesn't necessarily mean

1960
02:24:10,007 --> 02:24:13,774
which is modern
Just because of the electric guitar

1961
02:24:14,412 --> 02:24:17,381
...it was like

1962
02:24:19,017 --> 02:24:20,508
At the time, country music was also electric

1963
02:24:20,620 --> 02:24:22,713
I won't work anymore

1964
02:24:22,822 --> 02:24:25,586
At Maggie's farm

1965
02:24:26,292 --> 02:24:30,229
The process of creating the record
It was really fun because

1966
02:24:30,631 --> 02:24:34,762
It was a kind of spontaneous, telepathic experience

1967
02:24:36,137 --> 02:24:40,574
As if he is
Played a song very quickly very briefly

1968
02:24:40,708 --> 02:24:45,373
And that was all the rehearsal or preparation
that they all passed before the songs

1969
02:24:45,848 --> 02:24:50,309
They were all really good, they were all really "funky", you know

1970
02:24:50,420 --> 02:24:52,354
Everyone had a lot of fun

1971
02:24:53,423 --> 02:24:56,882
And everyone really connected to Bobby's songs
and support them

1972
02:24:57,461 --> 02:25:00,089
It was almost like
get together to improvise and jam

1973
02:25:00,197 --> 02:25:04,498
Without any instructions or notes or anything like that

1974
02:25:07,572 --> 02:25:12,237
"I rode the Mayflower
When I realized I saw some land

1975
02:25:13,179 --> 02:25:15,670
He played alone, at first

1976
02:25:15,783 --> 02:25:18,274
Then he stopped and everyone laughed

1977
02:25:18,952 --> 02:25:22,719
And two seconds after that, he started it again

1978
02:25:22,824 --> 02:25:25,850
And everyone joined in an instant, in a "boom", like a storm

1979
02:25:26,194 --> 02:25:30,529
"I rode the Mayflower
When I realized I saw some land

1980
02:25:31,033 --> 02:25:35,094
I called an Arab captain
I want you to understand

1981
02:25:35,571 --> 02:25:39,906
who came running to the deck
He said, "Guys, forget about the whale

1982
02:25:40,110 --> 02:25:44,343
Look there
Stopped the engines, changed the sail

1983
02:25:44,949 --> 02:25:48,885
"Pull on the front line"
We sang this tune

1984
02:25:48,986 --> 02:25:53,424
As all hardened sailors do
when they are far at sea

1985
02:25:54,226 --> 02:25:55,989
I mean, the whole culture
moved and changed

1986
02:25:56,095 --> 02:25:57,427
This is really what we announce

1987
02:25:57,530 --> 02:26:00,055
The whole culture, even in America
And it has changed in England too

1988
02:26:00,166 --> 02:26:02,999
There's a whole new generation growing up, all of them

1989
02:26:03,103 --> 02:26:04,731
Are people at the Museum of Modern Art

1990
02:26:04,839 --> 02:26:06,739
And the people at the Museum of Modern Art
And the Metropolitan knows about it

1991
02:26:06,841 --> 02:26:09,674
Do they know that the culture has changed
?There is a new generation

1992
02:26:09,777 --> 02:26:11,177
Well, they were at the front

1993
02:26:11,279 --> 02:26:13,372
in presenting all this new pop art themselves

1994
02:26:13,482 --> 02:26:15,916
Warhol will be there at the Albert Hall
and Warhol on the walls

1995
02:26:16,017 --> 02:26:18,885
at the Museum of Modern Art
for the past five years

1996
02:26:26,430 --> 02:26:29,627
There were signs of a new life, another generation
...who takes it upon himself

1997
02:26:29,733 --> 02:26:32,931
A revolution in consciousness
A bloodless revolution

1998
02:26:33,505 --> 02:26:36,372
You know, like the first revolution
who never shed blood

1999
02:26:36,708 --> 02:26:38,107
That was the important thing

2000
02:26:38,209 --> 02:26:40,201
...I was just "thrown" out of Cuba

2001
02:26:40,312 --> 02:26:41,779
Because after all I was talking in private

2002
02:26:41,881 --> 02:26:45,909
"On Castro's persecution of the "Guys

2003
02:26:46,019 --> 02:26:50,888
Then I went to Czechoslovakia
I was elected the monthly king on Labor Day

2004
02:26:51,258 --> 02:26:55,025
A week later I was thrown out by the Minister of Education and exiled to London

2005
02:26:55,129 --> 02:26:59,965
And then I arrived at about the time of
Dylan's performances at the Albert Hall

2006
02:27:00,402 --> 02:27:03,633
There was a very moving scene when we got back to the hotel

2007
02:27:03,972 --> 02:27:07,340
And Dylan was down the hall with the Beatles

2008
02:27:07,944 --> 02:27:11,038
Then a message came from someone
that I should go in to be there with them

2009
02:27:11,147 --> 02:27:14,345
So I entered the room and everyone was sitting there

2010
02:27:14,452 --> 02:27:17,751
Completely still, frozen, paranoid

2011
02:27:18,222 --> 02:27:20,521
And I don't really know my place, I know about Bob

2012
02:27:20,625 --> 02:27:23,958
I sat next to his armchair

2013
02:27:24,229 --> 02:27:27,825
John Lennon cheekily said
"Why don't you sit a little closer"

2014
02:27:28,801 --> 02:27:32,134
I suddenly realized that they are just so innocent
They were young

2015
02:27:32,572 --> 02:27:36,202
So basically, I rolled over laughing on John's lap

2016
02:27:37,578 --> 02:27:40,547
I looked at him and asked him
"?Have you ever read William Blake?"

2017
02:27:40,647 --> 02:27:44,550
And he replied, "I've never heard of him
"And his wife said, "Oh, John, stop lying

2018
02:27:44,752 --> 02:27:47,482
Then everyone started laughing
And all the tension seemed to dissipate

2019
02:27:47,589 --> 02:27:49,455
The ice is broken

2020
02:27:49,859 --> 02:27:53,226
I think it's a funny question
Guys at the peak of their power

2021
02:27:53,696 --> 02:27:56,928
Spiritual power, musical power, world fame

2022
02:27:57,167 --> 02:27:59,101
1965, May... June

2023
02:28:00,003 --> 02:28:02,666
were so unsure

2024
02:28:02,940 --> 02:28:05,534
of their opinion and words

2025
02:28:13,151 --> 02:28:14,948
I was only interested in watching Dylan

2026
02:28:15,053 --> 02:28:18,615
I could see somehow
...that things he did and said

2027
02:28:19,125 --> 02:28:20,717
were interesting about

2028
02:28:21,294 --> 02:28:25,755
And I didn't know why, and that's what attracted me
start making a movie

2029
02:28:25,866 --> 02:28:28,096
- You really like this song
- Yes, it's wonderful.

2030
02:28:28,202 --> 02:28:29,932
What do you like about him?
..I just-

2031
02:28:30,038 --> 02:28:32,472
I don't like any of his songs
Subterranean Homesick Blues.

2032
02:28:32,574 --> 02:28:35,475
...Oh, you're that kind of
Okay, you see, now I understand

2033
02:28:35,577 --> 02:28:39,105
When we would arrive in town, there was no sign

2034
02:28:40,016 --> 02:28:43,680
And there were people, just like that
Leaning on the stairs

2035
02:28:44,688 --> 02:28:46,519
...waiting for him that

2036
02:28:46,623 --> 02:28:49,717
And don't wait to gather around him or see him
or get a signature

2037
02:28:49,826 --> 02:28:51,317
Just waiting for him

2038
02:28:51,696 --> 02:28:56,065
And it gave you a feeling that there was something real
...that you really need

2039
02:28:56,701 --> 02:28:59,728
understand it deeply,
And you won't be able to find it out quickly

2040
02:28:59,838 --> 02:29:01,678
But you should have seen it
as they saw it

2041
02:29:02,308 --> 02:29:05,836
In the discount stores and the bus stations

2042
02:29:06,947 --> 02:29:09,381
The people talk about situations

2043
02:29:10,817 --> 02:29:13,685
Read books and quote quotes

2044
02:29:13,988 --> 02:29:17,515
Draw conclusions on the wall

2045
02:29:20,562 --> 02:29:23,292
Some talk about the future

2046
02:29:24,833 --> 02:29:27,803
My love speaks softly

2047
02:29:28,204 --> 02:29:31,298
Know that there is no success like failure

2048
02:29:31,808 --> 02:29:35,040
And failure is not success at all

2049
02:29:36,947 --> 02:29:38,938
You care about what you sing

2050
02:29:39,684 --> 02:29:42,084
How can this be answered?
If you have the courage to ask me

2051
02:29:42,187 --> 02:29:43,187
Well, then you have

2052
02:29:43,288 --> 02:29:45,916
I mean, you have guts or guts
ask me such a question

2053
02:29:46,024 --> 02:29:47,219
Did you ask the Beatles?
Such a question

2054
02:29:47,326 --> 02:29:50,727
I have to ask you this
Because you have the courage to ask if I can

2055
02:29:50,830 --> 02:29:53,891
I'm not asking you
Because I don't expect an answer from you

2056
02:29:54,001 --> 02:29:57,937
But you think someone wouldn't go to see
?Anyone, if they didn't want entertainment

2057
02:29:58,639 --> 02:30:01,939
Everything is in dollar stores and at the bus stations

2058
02:30:02,043 --> 02:30:03,567
We showed him the first rough version
of the documentary

2059
02:30:03,678 --> 02:30:07,479
What he saw must have made him see
As if he was completely exposed

2060
02:30:08,050 --> 02:30:09,881
I think it was a big market for him

2061
02:30:09,985 --> 02:30:14,047
But then he saw, I think on the second evening
He saw that it was total theater

2062
02:30:14,324 --> 02:30:15,416
It didn't change

2063
02:30:15,525 --> 02:30:19,689
He was like an actor
...and suddenly he reinvented himself

2064
02:30:19,796 --> 02:30:22,994
As an actor within this film, then it was fine

2065
02:30:23,668 --> 02:30:26,603
- That's what he's good at
Get used to the way things are

2066
02:30:26,704 --> 02:30:29,572
I mean, he understands that time changes everything

2067
02:30:29,675 --> 02:30:32,940
They did not turn on flashlights in places
They didn't have to stop filming

2068
02:30:33,045 --> 02:30:34,911
If you ran, they ran with you

2069
02:30:35,314 --> 02:30:38,181
If you entered the room, they entered the room

2070
02:30:38,451 --> 02:30:42,889
And you know, at some point
You just stopped noticing it

2071
02:31:01,644 --> 02:31:04,842
I was young and I had expectations

2072
02:31:04,948 --> 02:31:07,314
And I wanted to be where everything was happening

2073
02:31:07,417 --> 02:31:10,785
And I wasn't supposed to be there
at the same time

2074
02:31:10,888 --> 02:31:14,255
...everyone had a lot of fun and they broke everything on the way

2075
02:31:14,358 --> 02:31:17,624
"In the hotel room, and I was the "square" girl
there in my room

2076
02:31:17,730 --> 02:31:19,493
that she didn't do all these things

2077
02:31:19,598 --> 02:31:23,194
I was very critical of anyone who did it
And I wanted my time with Bob

2078
02:31:23,303 --> 02:31:27,239
Because I thought he was a special friend
But he had already moved on

2079
02:31:28,274 --> 02:31:31,676
And it was terrible
It just hurt like hell

2080
02:31:31,779 --> 02:31:35,977
I thought, I assumed, that since I summoned him to the stage
in the United States

2081
02:31:36,117 --> 02:31:39,349
that he will invite me to a concert with him
But he had no intention of doing that

2082
02:31:39,454 --> 02:31:40,751
- Bob?
- Bob?

2083
02:31:44,227 --> 02:31:47,958
He was willing to take this whole stage all to himself
That's what I would say

2084
02:31:48,064 --> 02:31:50,498
He didn't want anyone to compete with him

2085
02:31:50,901 --> 02:31:52,766
This is as close as I can get

2086
02:31:53,203 --> 02:31:56,730
, you know
It was probably a stupid thing to do

2087
02:31:58,076 --> 02:32:03,013
Don't let her play
....but you can't be smart and in love at the same time, then

2088
02:32:04,582 --> 02:32:08,019
I hope she gets the point
sooner or later

2089
02:32:08,320 --> 02:32:11,585
Bob is one of the most complex people
that I ever met

2090
02:32:12,626 --> 02:32:15,959
I think at the very beginning
I tried to understand this man. No

2091
02:32:16,997 --> 02:32:18,898
I gave it up, so I really don't know

2092
02:32:19,000 --> 02:32:22,060
I don't know what he was thinking.
All I know is what he gave us

2093
02:32:22,170 --> 02:32:26,005
The accident on the highway
threw the car into the field

2094
02:32:27,242 --> 02:32:31,042
Sob, sob, sob again

2095
02:32:31,914 --> 02:32:35,874
Four were killed while he was behind the wheel

2096
02:32:36,953 --> 02:32:41,254
Turn, turn to the rain
And to the wind

2097
02:32:43,427 --> 02:32:46,829
The vocals just pour out
And I saw him writing

2098
02:32:46,932 --> 02:32:49,423
On the typewriter or writing by hand... it's done

2099
02:32:49,568 --> 02:32:50,728
Do you remember that damn song?

2100
02:32:50,836 --> 02:32:53,499
Love is just a four letter word

2101
02:32:53,606 --> 02:32:58,066
I never finished this song, did I?
No, I never finished it-

2102
02:32:58,177 --> 02:32:59,235
Oh, what a steal

2103
02:32:59,345 --> 02:33:01,507
You finished it eight different ways -
- ?Me

2104
02:33:01,615 --> 02:33:06,018
"I stole "a four-letter word
I took it and went away with it, and I sang it

2105
02:33:06,653 --> 02:33:09,282
And I think the next time Bob heard about it
was when he heard it on the radio

2106
02:33:09,390 --> 02:33:13,349
I was with him when he heard it on the radio
: And he listened and said

2107
02:33:13,461 --> 02:33:15,327
"This is a great song"

2108
02:33:15,431 --> 02:33:17,865
"This is a great song"
He didn't even remember writing it

2109
02:33:17,967 --> 02:33:20,561
." I told him: "You wrote it yourself, stupid

2110
02:33:20,903 --> 02:33:23,505
It feels weird to be around you

2111
02:33:23,607 --> 02:33:25,973
Many years of tables being turned

2112
02:33:26,843 --> 02:33:31,144
You probably wouldn't believe me
If I were to say everything I learned

2113
02:33:32,183 --> 02:33:35,915
And it's really very, very strange

2114
02:33:37,522 --> 02:33:41,857
hearing words like "forever" and free

2115
02:33:42,028 --> 02:33:46,192
Ships run in my mind
I can't cheat

2116
02:33:47,934 --> 02:33:51,803
It's like daring to look
In front of the naked teacher

2117
02:33:53,240 --> 02:33:57,143
I can't tell you anything
But just to say again

2118
02:33:57,245 --> 02:34:00,840
what i heard

2119
02:34:01,216 --> 02:34:04,084
That love is only four letters

2120
02:34:04,186 --> 02:34:06,711
Love is only four letters

2121
02:34:06,822 --> 02:34:10,884
Love is just a four letter word

2122
02:34:16,834 --> 02:34:20,695
Hey Mr. Tambourine

2123
02:34:20,905 --> 02:34:23,568
play me a song

2124
02:34:23,976 --> 02:34:25,876
I'm not sleepy

2125
02:34:25,978 --> 02:34:30,541
And I have nowhere to go

2126
02:34:32,452 --> 02:34:35,478
A lot of my songs, they became
to hits for others

2127
02:34:35,588 --> 02:34:37,648
There were the "Birds" they had a big hit

2128
02:34:37,758 --> 02:34:40,249
A band called "The Turtles" had a hit

2129
02:34:40,628 --> 02:34:44,064
"Sonny and Cher" had a hit with my song

2130
02:34:44,166 --> 02:34:46,532
People started writing songs
So light

2131
02:34:46,635 --> 02:34:50,537
, which looks like they have something to do with me
"...you know, something like "Well, come on

2132
02:34:51,174 --> 02:34:54,735
"I Got You, Babe" - you know
It's a kind of imitation of me, something I wrote

2133
02:34:54,844 --> 02:34:57,677
Well, I don't know what exactly was taken from my songs

2134
02:34:57,780 --> 02:35:00,807
I didn't really like that sound

2135
02:35:01,919 --> 02:35:05,356
Or folk-rock, whatever it was
I didn't feel it had anything to do with me

2136
02:35:05,457 --> 02:35:08,449
It made me think of the "Billboard" parade and the songs

2137
02:35:08,560 --> 02:35:11,825
"What songs become popular"
Something I hadn't thought of before

2138
02:35:12,198 --> 02:35:14,632
Once upon a time you dressed in style

2139
02:35:14,734 --> 02:35:18,795
You would throw them a penny when you were at your peak
?Not so

2140
02:35:21,708 --> 02:35:24,939
I found myself writing this song
this story

2141
02:35:25,847 --> 02:35:30,375
This long piece, like vomit
20 pages long, and from it

2142
02:35:30,885 --> 02:35:34,754
"Like A Rolling Stone" I took the
...and I made a single out of it

2143
02:35:34,857 --> 02:35:37,121
And I've never written anything like this before

2144
02:35:37,226 --> 02:35:41,061
And suddenly I understood
which is what i have to do

2145
02:35:41,498 --> 02:35:46,401
After writing this, I was no longer interested
In writing a novel, a play or anything else

2146
02:35:46,503 --> 02:35:49,564
Like I knew I had too much inside me
I wanted to write songs

2147
02:35:49,673 --> 02:35:51,698
When you have to look for where you come from

2148
02:35:52,309 --> 02:35:57,043
your next meal

2149
02:36:07,361 --> 02:36:10,296
Mike Bloomfield said he heard
...my first record

2150
02:36:11,532 --> 02:36:14,764
and said he wanted to show me
How to play blues

2151
02:36:15,070 --> 02:36:18,005
And I didn't feel much competitiveness

2152
02:36:18,373 --> 02:36:22,970
I didn't feel competitive with him
He could play better than anyone, even then

2153
02:36:23,279 --> 02:36:25,873
?At that time, understand

2154
02:36:26,348 --> 02:36:30,376
But when it came time to bring in a guitarist
for my record

2155
02:36:30,487 --> 02:36:32,648
I couldn't think of anyone but him

2156
02:36:33,123 --> 02:36:35,752
I mean, he was just the guitarist
The best I've ever heard

2157
02:36:35,860 --> 02:36:38,624
All right, Bob. Everyone is here
...let's start one, then

2158
02:36:38,729 --> 02:36:42,097
A producer named Tom Wilson invited me
for a recording session

2159
02:36:42,401 --> 02:36:45,837
And me, who was 21 and full
with unusual ambition

2160
02:36:45,938 --> 02:36:50,569
And as a big Bob Dylan fan, I decided I was going
participate in this recording session

2161
02:36:50,777 --> 02:36:54,508
There was another guitarist who sat down and started warming up

2162
02:36:54,814 --> 02:36:57,648
And he just played at a much higher level
of my abilities

2163
02:36:58,085 --> 02:37:00,417
And it turned out to be Mike Bloomfield

2164
02:37:00,521 --> 02:37:05,186
I packed my guitar and went to the control room
The place where I really belonged

2165
02:37:05,794 --> 02:37:09,788
After the first two hours of recording
...they transferred

2166
02:37:11,968 --> 02:37:14,232
You are the piano organist

2167
02:37:17,674 --> 02:37:20,268
"And I said, "Well, here's another chance for me

2168
02:37:20,611 --> 02:37:22,806
: Then I told Tom Wilson

2169
02:37:24,115 --> 02:37:25,480
"Why don't you let me play the organ?"

2170
02:37:25,583 --> 02:37:28,677
"I have a great piece for that"
That was a complete lie

2171
02:37:32,424 --> 02:37:36,827
"...and Tom Wilson said, "Oh, mate, you're not an organist

2172
02:37:36,929 --> 02:37:38,591
"You're a guitarist..."

2173
02:37:39,399 --> 02:37:41,924
, I said, "I have a really good piece for that
"I can play it

2174
02:37:42,035 --> 02:37:43,935
"...and he said "Al

2175
02:37:44,505 --> 02:37:47,633
And just then someone came and took him

2176
02:37:48,009 --> 02:37:50,477
to receive a phone call that came to him

2177
02:37:50,711 --> 02:37:52,373
"So actually he didn't tell me "No

2178
02:37:52,781 --> 02:37:57,150
Like a rolling stone", new version, first take"

2179
02:37:58,153 --> 02:37:59,849
?What are you doing there?

2180
02:38:00,323 --> 02:38:04,726
At this point, he really could
just stop me

2181
02:38:04,827 --> 02:38:06,989
and bring me back to the control room

2182
02:38:08,532 --> 02:38:13,368
But he was a very kind man
And so he let it go

2183
02:38:13,939 --> 02:38:15,702
And so I started playing

2184
02:38:15,907 --> 02:38:18,205
in the first versions
You can hear me come in

2185
02:38:18,310 --> 02:38:20,779
You always put an eighth note behind the band

2186
02:38:21,147 --> 02:38:23,138
To make sure I'm playing the right chord

2187
02:38:23,249 --> 02:38:26,014
The band would play... and I would play like that

2188
02:38:28,488 --> 02:38:29,546
like that

2189
02:38:29,656 --> 02:38:31,317
They started playing it back

2190
02:38:31,425 --> 02:38:34,589
: After a version or two, Bob told Tom Wilson

2191
02:38:35,096 --> 02:38:36,495
"Hey, turn up the organ"

2192
02:38:36,598 --> 02:38:40,797
: And Tom Wilson said to Bob
"Oh, mate, that man doesn't play the organ"

2193
02:38:40,903 --> 02:38:41,995
"...he's in total"

2194
02:38:42,104 --> 02:38:45,039
Then Bob said
"I don't care, turn up the organ"

2195
02:38:55,086 --> 02:38:59,750
You used to dress in style
In good times you throw a coin to a beggar

2196
02:39:01,226 --> 02:39:02,523
Isn't it?

2197
02:39:05,297 --> 02:39:08,131
People would call to say
"Careful, baby, you're about to fall"

2198
02:39:08,234 --> 02:39:11,726
You thought they were just laughing at you

2199
02:39:15,976 --> 02:39:19,468
...you used to make fun of

2200
02:39:21,015 --> 02:39:24,508
Everyone who was around you

2201
02:39:25,320 --> 02:39:28,518
Now you don't talk anymore
out loud

2202
02:39:30,159 --> 02:39:33,617
Now you don't look so proud

2203
02:39:34,764 --> 02:39:37,029
about the need to beg

2204
02:39:38,302 --> 02:39:40,736
for your next meal

2205
02:39:43,374 --> 02:39:45,274
how does it feel

2206
02:39:48,546 --> 02:39:50,105
how does it feel

2207
02:39:53,118 --> 02:39:55,177
to be homeless

2208
02:39:58,391 --> 02:40:00,518
Like someone unknown

2209
02:40:02,729 --> 02:40:05,426
like a rolling stone

2210
02:40:10,339 --> 02:40:12,773
Like a Rolling Stone
Definitely broke some ground

2211
02:40:12,874 --> 02:40:16,401
I didn't feel like the radio ever played
A song like this in the past

2212
02:40:16,812 --> 02:40:19,077
i know
I have never heard a song like this before

2213
02:40:19,182 --> 02:40:20,410
...so

2214
02:40:21,718 --> 02:40:25,155
...and everything I did until that moment led to

2215
02:40:25,456 --> 02:40:27,481
Writing a song like this, just effortless

2216
02:40:27,591 --> 02:40:31,722
Like a rolling stone" originally
If I remember correctly, something like fifty houses

2217
02:40:32,664 --> 02:40:35,394
...and people who think it's long now, you know

2218
02:40:36,101 --> 02:40:38,263
You should have seen him when he was raw

2219
02:40:38,371 --> 02:40:41,272
I think he always is
He created exactly the works he wanted to create

2220
02:40:41,374 --> 02:40:45,004
while he wanted to create them
The crowd came to Bob

2221
02:40:45,245 --> 02:40:48,339
And this is one of the reasons that make it
so unique

2222
02:40:48,448 --> 02:40:51,850
, in the history of American music...
.that the audience came to Bob Dylan

2223
02:40:51,986 --> 02:40:53,419
I've never been that kind of craftsman

2224
02:40:53,521 --> 02:40:57,389
who wants to be one of them
You know, like some of the crowd

2225
02:40:59,661 --> 02:41:01,925
I'm not trying to win affection that way

2226
02:41:02,264 --> 02:41:06,167
?Now, are artists looking for returns
Yes, and no

2227
02:41:06,803 --> 02:41:08,930
It really depends
what kind of artist are you

2228
02:41:09,038 --> 02:41:12,497
Like the Billie Holiday story, you know

2229
02:41:12,610 --> 02:41:15,909
"Strange Fruit" - when she performed the
For the first time, no one applauded

2230
02:41:16,013 --> 02:41:20,383
You can leave someone mesmerized, and as it were

2231
02:41:22,687 --> 02:41:27,148
i don't know
There are so many things going on

2232
02:41:27,260 --> 02:41:30,252
When an artist stands on stage and there is an audience in front of him

2233
02:41:47,750 --> 02:41:49,718
that weekend
I had a daughter

2234
02:41:49,819 --> 02:41:53,311
Pete Seeger recorded it, and he played the recording

2235
02:41:53,422 --> 02:41:55,342
He opened the evening on Sunday in Newport

2236
02:41:55,425 --> 02:41:57,689
And he played this little recording
of a newborn baby girl, so he said

2237
02:41:57,794 --> 02:41:59,819
Here is a first folk song
From the first voice

2238
02:41:59,930 --> 02:42:03,662
And we dedicate this festival
...this music and our goals

2239
02:42:03,768 --> 02:42:07,499
To this new girl, and to the new world
where she will grow

2240
02:42:07,772 --> 02:42:11,641
And so actually, you know
This is how the evening began

2241
02:42:12,177 --> 02:42:16,080
I walked around in the afternoon
And Albert Grossman took me aside

2242
02:42:16,182 --> 02:42:18,173
"And he said to me, "Bob is looking for you

2243
02:42:19,085 --> 02:42:23,079
And he took me to Bob, and Bob said
"I want to perform on Sunday night"

2244
02:42:23,190 --> 02:42:26,193
and try to reproduce it in a concert"
"What we did on the album

2245
02:42:27,228 --> 02:42:28,422
: And I said

2246
02:42:29,130 --> 02:42:30,722
"Ok, sounds great"

2247
02:42:31,399 --> 02:42:32,866
ladies and gentlemen

2248
02:42:34,436 --> 02:42:36,667
The person who is going up now

2249
02:42:39,275 --> 02:42:41,470
It is limited in time

2250
02:42:43,647 --> 02:42:46,878
His name is Bob Dylan

2251
02:43:10,411 --> 02:43:13,972
I'm not going to work anymore
At Maggie's farm

2252
02:43:19,755 --> 02:43:23,555
No, I won't be working on Maggie's farm anymore

2253
02:43:29,232 --> 02:43:32,930
Well, I try my best
To be exactly who I am

2254
02:43:33,070 --> 02:43:36,437
But everyone wants you to be just like them

2255
02:43:36,674 --> 02:43:39,803
They say: "sing" when you are enslaved
But I'm just bored

2256
02:43:40,345 --> 02:43:44,406
I won't work on Maggie's farm anymore

2257
02:43:51,724 --> 02:43:54,592
He sang the song
"I won't work on Maggie's farm anymore"

2258
02:43:54,695 --> 02:43:57,220
I said, "Hey, look, he's taking you
"Penny's Pharm

2259
02:43:57,331 --> 02:44:00,392
and moves it to another place
It's great

2260
02:44:00,501 --> 02:44:02,867
I thought it was interesting

2261
02:44:03,738 --> 02:44:08,301
But the volume of the band
was quite excessive

2262
02:44:08,444 --> 02:44:10,776
And you couldn't understand the words clearly

2263
02:44:11,246 --> 02:44:15,206
I won't work for Maggie's mom anymore

2264
02:44:19,456 --> 02:44:23,291
No, I won't work for
Maggie's mother more

2265
02:44:31,136 --> 02:44:35,403
Well, she talks to all the servants
About man, law and justice

2266
02:44:35,608 --> 02:44:39,169
Everyone says she is the mastermind behind the father

2267
02:44:39,278 --> 02:44:42,214
She is 72, but says she is 24

2268
02:44:43,651 --> 02:44:47,178
I won't work for Maggie's mom anymore

2269
02:44:50,558 --> 02:44:54,119
It was not possible to share the
That kind of intimacy

2270
02:44:54,229 --> 02:44:55,789
that we shared with folk music

2271
02:44:55,831 --> 02:44:58,561
When you have the electric instruments that play

2272
02:44:58,668 --> 02:45:02,605
Once you have drums there
The volume must be turned up

2273
02:45:07,978 --> 02:45:09,446
The sound was a bit jarring

2274
02:45:09,547 --> 02:45:11,640
But we thought it was really cool

2275
02:45:11,949 --> 02:45:13,644
...and what we noticed was

2276
02:45:15,019 --> 02:45:18,649
About a third of the audience booed...
Something we haven't heard before

2277
02:45:18,757 --> 02:45:20,657
Not all the time we saw

2278
02:45:20,759 --> 02:45:23,251
We have not seen such a thing
In every kind of performance we saw

2279
02:45:25,532 --> 02:45:29,594
I remember realizing that drugs are bad
And alcohol is bad

2280
02:45:29,870 --> 02:45:33,397
Rock'n'roll was bad
And sex was a bad thing

2281
02:45:33,574 --> 02:45:38,205
So I thought, “Oh, my God
"How everything is deteriorating

2282
02:45:38,313 --> 02:45:39,371
Excellent!

2283
02:45:41,016 --> 02:45:45,078
I thought someone was shouting from the crowd
"?Are you with us? Are you with us"

2284
02:45:45,421 --> 02:45:48,652
And you know, I don't know what it is
...you know, like that

2285
02:45:48,758 --> 02:45:50,226
?What was that even supposed to say?

2286
02:45:50,327 --> 02:45:52,124
I had no idea why they were booing

2287
02:45:52,229 --> 02:45:57,133
I don't think anyone is there
responded to it in the negative

2288
02:45:57,936 --> 02:45:59,130
But for the songs themselves, no

2289
02:46:00,171 --> 02:46:03,903
I mean, whatever it was
...it wasn't because

2290
02:46:04,243 --> 02:46:06,234
Nothing from what they heard

2291
02:46:06,378 --> 02:46:10,212
Well, he pulls you a coin
Gives you another small one

2292
02:46:10,784 --> 02:46:14,276
asks you with a smile
if you enjoy

2293
02:46:14,421 --> 02:46:17,254
And he punishes you every time you are
Slams the door

2294
02:46:17,925 --> 02:46:21,884
I won't work anymore
For Maggie's brother

2295
02:46:22,363 --> 02:46:24,297
You couldn't understand the words

2296
02:46:24,399 --> 02:46:27,994
And I was upset
"
I said, "Cut off that distortion chain

2297
02:46:28,103 --> 02:46:31,835
It was so rough
You couldn't understand a word

2298
02:46:32,275 --> 02:46:35,938
And I ran to the sound system and shouted
"Stop the distortion from Bob's voice"

2299
02:46:36,045 --> 02:46:38,412
"No, that's how they want it to sound"

2300
02:46:38,516 --> 02:46:41,417
I said, "It's terrible and terrible
"You can't understand anything

2301
02:46:41,519 --> 02:46:45,011
If I had an axe, I would chop
the microphone cable now

2302
02:46:45,791 --> 02:46:49,727
Oh, you went to the best school
Right, Miss Lonely

2303
02:46:49,828 --> 02:46:53,424
But you know you would just get drunk there

2304
02:46:55,301 --> 02:46:58,862
Nobody taught you how to live on the street

2305
02:46:58,971 --> 02:47:01,805
And now you have no choice but to get used to it

2306
02:47:04,711 --> 02:47:07,545
We ran backstage, and there was complete chaos

2307
02:47:07,649 --> 02:47:10,516
Pete Seeger, Theodore Bickle and the whole old guard

2308
02:47:10,618 --> 02:47:13,850
The old factions of the left, who sang protest songs

2309
02:47:13,956 --> 02:47:18,120
were shocked and thought
"It's pop music, it's not folk music"

2310
02:47:18,227 --> 02:47:21,561
And there was just a big war raging
...behind the scenes and

2311
02:47:21,665 --> 02:47:24,327
Pete... I realized that Pete Seeger had an axe

2312
02:47:24,434 --> 02:47:28,064
And he was going to go and cut the electric cables
...and had to

2313
02:47:28,306 --> 02:47:30,672
You know, restrain him

2314
02:47:30,942 --> 02:47:35,346
"!And Theodore Bickle said, "That's what the young people want

2315
02:47:35,447 --> 02:47:38,507
"We must flow with the change,
"Because that's what's happening now

2316
02:47:38,617 --> 02:47:40,209
They all argued
among themselves

2317
02:47:40,319 --> 02:47:41,981
a cigar

2318
02:47:43,323 --> 02:47:47,453
According to all reports
He was very upset about it

2319
02:47:47,561 --> 02:47:51,895
And I heard he tried to cut the wires
and got into the car

2320
02:47:51,999 --> 02:47:54,628
And didn't want to go out
After all this story

2321
02:47:54,736 --> 02:47:57,068
This is not my interpretation. you see

2322
02:47:57,405 --> 02:48:00,772
Pete's dad was there, Charlie Seeger

2323
02:48:01,142 --> 02:48:04,601
And he had a hearing aid
And Charlie was very upset

2324
02:48:04,814 --> 02:48:06,975
When he couldn't hear
the things clearly

2325
02:48:07,083 --> 02:48:09,644
And in addition all the sound that came out of the speakers

2326
02:48:09,753 --> 02:48:13,450
Charlie Seeger was very upset
And I think it affected Pete

2327
02:48:13,690 --> 02:48:16,922
You used to race in a luxury car
With a diplomat by your side

2328
02:48:17,896 --> 02:48:21,354
who carried a Siamese cat on his shoulder

2329
02:48:22,501 --> 02:48:25,299
...Isn't it hard when you find out that

2330
02:48:26,805 --> 02:48:30,298
which he actually wasn't
Where things really happened

2331
02:48:31,378 --> 02:48:33,676
After he took from you

2332
02:48:33,780 --> 02:48:36,944
All he could
to steal

2333
02:48:38,819 --> 02:48:40,844
?How does it feel?

2334
02:48:41,355 --> 02:48:45,816
Rock and roll is considered commercial music
For many folk fans

2335
02:48:45,928 --> 02:48:49,659
And this song felt like
A direct slap in the face

2336
02:48:49,765 --> 02:48:52,166
For everything that contemporary songs represent

2337
02:48:52,435 --> 02:48:56,166
"?How does it feel to be alone"
...and they took it for granted

2338
02:48:56,406 --> 02:48:58,341
extremely negative

2339
02:49:00,411 --> 02:49:01,708
you know

2340
02:49:01,812 --> 02:49:05,340
A selfish statement, actually, and it wasn't
...a foreboding statement

2341
02:49:05,750 --> 02:49:08,241
A better world is coming, you know
It wasn't like that

2342
02:49:14,961 --> 02:49:16,622
Let's go, friend. That's all

2343
02:49:17,129 --> 02:49:21,089
I thought he would come out and play
...a few other things himself and then

2344
02:49:21,535 --> 02:49:23,901
And then we'll come back and play
these three songs

2345
02:49:26,207 --> 02:49:29,370
But we just went out and played only you
...those three songs and then

2346
02:49:29,610 --> 02:49:31,077
He said, "Good night."

2347
02:49:31,379 --> 02:49:35,407
And we were there for a total of 15 minutes

2348
02:49:36,919 --> 02:49:39,388
while everyone else played for an hour

2349
02:49:40,223 --> 02:49:42,851
It was quite strange
Because he was the main show

2350
02:49:46,664 --> 02:49:48,894
?Bobby, can you play another song, please?

2351
02:49:50,601 --> 02:49:52,296
He's going to bring the guitar

2352
02:50:00,046 --> 02:50:01,172
he is coming

2353
02:50:03,783 --> 02:50:07,276
Bobby was absolutely shocked
And I ran backstage

2354
02:50:07,955 --> 02:50:10,480
"?And he said to me, "What have you done to me?

2355
02:50:10,858 --> 02:50:14,295
"...Peter Yarrow came out and said, "Okay, everybody relax

2356
02:50:14,396 --> 02:50:17,058
"Bob went to get his acoustic guitar"

2357
02:50:17,165 --> 02:50:18,427
...and everyone

2358
02:50:18,900 --> 02:50:22,132
The road is for gamblers

2359
02:50:22,505 --> 02:50:24,700
You better use logic

2360
02:50:28,979 --> 02:50:31,470
Take what you collected

2361
02:50:31,581 --> 02:50:34,517
from the coincidences

2362
02:50:38,122 --> 02:50:42,822
A poor painter
from your streets

2363
02:50:45,831 --> 02:50:48,995
Draws crazy patterns

2364
02:50:49,135 --> 02:50:50,898
on your sheets

2365
02:50:53,640 --> 02:50:57,407
Even the sky folds under you

2366
02:51:01,015 --> 02:51:04,179
...and it's all over now

2367
02:51:04,286 --> 02:51:06,277
Baby Blue

2368
02:51:11,094 --> 02:51:13,392
I heard a rumor
Pete Cigar is about to cut the cord

2369
02:51:13,496 --> 02:51:17,763
And I heard it later, you see.
And it was... it was incomprehensible to me

2370
02:51:18,102 --> 02:51:22,095
Pete Seeger, anyone
.whose music I appreciate

2371
02:51:22,206 --> 02:51:24,801
Someone I really appreciate
Going to disconnect the cable

2372
02:51:24,909 --> 02:51:27,309
...It was like, "Oh, my God." It was like

2373
02:51:28,079 --> 02:51:30,412
...It was like a stab, you know, it was

2374
02:51:30,749 --> 02:51:33,274
Just the thought of it was, you know

2375
02:51:33,986 --> 02:51:35,419
Made me go out and get drunk

2376
02:51:35,521 --> 02:51:37,922
I lit another match

2377
02:51:38,024 --> 02:51:40,788
start over

2378
02:51:42,996 --> 02:51:46,125
...and it's all over now

2379
02:51:46,334 --> 02:51:48,268
Baby Blue

2380
02:52:13,431 --> 02:52:15,831
I remember seeing Bob
later that evening

2381
02:52:15,934 --> 02:52:18,335
...looks a little down, like he's not

2382
02:52:18,437 --> 02:52:21,406
He failed to convey the message he wanted
properly

2383
02:52:21,507 --> 02:52:26,411
He didn't want to feel
Limited here or limited there

2384
02:52:26,613 --> 02:52:30,242
He wanted to do something with a band
the blues

2385
02:52:30,551 --> 02:52:32,213
And it was great

2386
02:52:32,954 --> 02:52:37,050
.every night, after the shows
The festival people would have a party

2387
02:52:37,225 --> 02:52:41,162
And Bob was sitting in the corner, I guess
.reflecting on what happened

2388
02:52:41,263 --> 02:52:45,097
"?I said, "Hey, Bob. you want to dance
: and he looked up at me and said

2389
02:52:45,702 --> 02:52:49,160
I would dance with you, Maria"
"But my hands are burning

2390
02:52:50,106 --> 02:52:54,635
And it was kind of... it was a cryptic comment
...but somehow I knew

2391
02:52:54,745 --> 02:52:58,875
"Exactly what he meant. So I said, "Okay, bro
And I just left him alone

2392
02:52:59,551 --> 02:53:03,009
We want Dylan

2393
02:53:07,060 --> 02:53:09,620
A few months later, he appeared
in Forest Hills

2394
02:53:09,729 --> 02:53:13,461
The first half of the show was acoustic
And the other half was rock and roll

2395
02:53:13,567 --> 02:53:16,866
In the electric half there was silence and boos

2396
02:53:17,104 --> 02:53:21,166
And at least 15 or 20 young people ran
to go on stage throughout the show

2397
02:53:21,276 --> 02:53:23,636
During every song, there was always someone
two or three times

2398
02:53:23,678 --> 02:53:27,615
who jumped right on stage and ran between the musicians

2399
02:53:29,318 --> 02:53:32,014
and unimaginable hostility in the audience

2400
02:53:32,121 --> 02:53:34,920
I think that was the only show
...where ever I was present that

2401
02:53:35,025 --> 02:53:39,121
that the hostility was so strong
And you even felt a little threatened

2402
02:53:39,229 --> 02:53:41,858
If you clapped during the performance
as i did

2403
02:53:42,066 --> 02:53:45,866
When we performed in Forest Hills
was number one, Like a Rolling Stone

2404
02:53:47,605 --> 02:53:49,597
And when we played the
"Like a Rolling Stone"

2405
02:53:49,708 --> 02:53:51,573
They stopped booing and sang together

2406
02:53:51,677 --> 02:53:54,202
Then, when we finished, they went back to booing

2407
02:53:54,313 --> 02:53:56,009
I thought it was great

2408
02:53:56,182 --> 02:53:58,980
...I enjoyed it. But at the party after the show

2409
02:53:59,085 --> 02:54:02,544
: Bob ran to us and gave us big hugs, he said

2410
02:54:03,157 --> 02:54:06,456
"It was amazing. It was great. It was like a carnival"

2411
02:54:06,560 --> 02:54:09,621
.it was fantastic
.He really enjoyed the show

2412
02:54:10,165 --> 02:54:14,602
The boos aren't really, you know
I had perspective on the boos

2413
02:54:15,170 --> 02:54:19,631
Because you have to understand that you can kill someone
Even with kindness

2414
02:54:26,583 --> 02:54:29,985
N

2415
02:54:56,884 --> 02:54:59,683
I went to the studio and he was there in the corner

2416
02:54:59,788 --> 02:55:01,551
I approached him and said
"Bob, I'm Bob Johnston"

2417
02:55:01,657 --> 02:55:03,457
"?He said, "How are you?
And he smiled at me

2418
02:55:03,559 --> 02:55:07,155
All I remember is this
...Shadylan did it and opened b

2419
02:55:07,630 --> 02:55:10,895
And from that moment, I really have no memory

2420
02:55:12,436 --> 02:55:13,926
There was no one to signal to Dylan when to start

2421
02:55:14,038 --> 02:55:15,972
He always did
as much as he likes

2422
02:55:16,073 --> 02:55:20,204
I always tuned the sound pretty well
And he seemed to like it

2423
02:55:20,512 --> 02:55:25,576
You enter the room
with the pencil in your hand

2424
02:55:26,886 --> 02:55:31,914
You see someone naked
"?And says, "Who is this man?

2425
02:55:32,760 --> 02:55:35,490
...I just got swept up in this storm of

2426
02:55:36,296 --> 02:55:41,234
Be connected to music
that was supposed to stay forever

2427
02:55:41,703 --> 02:55:45,833
and be a part of it
.and know that it will last forever

2428
02:55:45,941 --> 02:55:48,535
Because something is happening here

2429
02:55:48,644 --> 02:55:51,807
But you don't know what his nature is

2430
02:55:52,983 --> 02:55:56,680
The music actually changed by
"That word "freedom

2431
02:55:56,787 --> 02:55:59,848
Everything has changed
It wasn't like four songs per session

2432
02:55:59,957 --> 02:56:02,517
There was no clock
I took off all the watches

2433
02:56:02,627 --> 02:56:04,288
There was no one there with a watch

2434
02:56:04,395 --> 02:56:08,059
"Something like, "Play something
What about this thing? how about that

2435
02:56:08,167 --> 02:56:11,136
We record 86845. One number

2436
02:56:11,236 --> 02:56:14,638
Einstein, disguised as Robin Hood

2437
02:56:15,775 --> 02:56:19,575
with his cargo of memories

2438
02:56:21,549 --> 02:56:25,383
Passed this way an hour ago

2439
02:56:25,586 --> 02:56:28,988
Accompanied by his friend, a zealous monk

2440
02:56:31,126 --> 02:56:34,585
I believe credit should be given
For those who deserve it

2441
02:56:34,697 --> 02:56:36,995
I don't think Dylan had
A lot of involvement in it

2442
02:56:37,099 --> 02:56:41,331
I think God, instead of touching him on the shoulder

2443
02:56:41,438 --> 02:56:43,872
He kicked him in the back. really

2444
02:56:44,107 --> 02:56:48,100
And that's where it all came from
He can't control what he does

2445
02:56:48,346 --> 02:56:51,406
I mean, he has the Holy Spirit around him

2446
02:56:51,516 --> 02:56:53,609
You can look at it and see it

2447
02:57:03,230 --> 02:57:05,664
Well, I ride a mail train, baby

2448
02:57:06,166 --> 02:57:08,794
Can't buy any thrill

2449
02:57:09,537 --> 02:57:12,335
It takes a lot to laugh
You need a train to cry

2450
02:57:12,473 --> 02:57:15,408
.Actually, there were two versions of this passage
...the first version

2451
02:57:15,510 --> 02:57:17,570
which was released on pirated recordings
It was like a fast version

2452
02:57:17,679 --> 02:57:20,671
This was a much faster version
And much more rhythmic

2453
02:57:20,782 --> 02:57:24,219
That sounds pretty similar to other things that have been done

2454
02:57:25,855 --> 02:57:28,881
?What the hell are we doing with this song, bro?

2455
02:57:29,025 --> 02:57:31,187
It's not such a bad song to play

2456
02:57:31,295 --> 02:57:32,853
"Then he said, "Let's take a break

2457
02:57:32,963 --> 02:57:36,057
Then he sent them all away, saying it was a break
for lunch or something like that

2458
02:57:36,166 --> 02:57:38,032
The people left for an hour

2459
02:57:38,136 --> 02:57:41,105
...he stayed alone at the piano and delved into

2460
02:57:41,373 --> 02:57:44,309
Played some chords and scribbled some lyrics

2461
02:57:44,410 --> 02:57:47,038
When they returned, they recorded another version

2462
02:57:47,146 --> 02:57:50,547
When everyone came back from break, they performed a slower version
with more of a blues feel

2463
02:57:50,650 --> 02:57:53,370
This is the version that was included in the album
And she completely changed the atmosphere

2464
02:57:53,453 --> 02:57:55,533
and the feeling of the song
It was really, really beautiful

2465
02:58:04,833 --> 02:58:08,200
Well, I ride a mail train, baby

2466
02:58:09,038 --> 02:58:11,599
Can't buy a thrill

2467
02:58:15,345 --> 02:58:17,575
I would love to hear a bit about the design
of your album cover

2468
02:58:17,681 --> 02:58:19,274
...I would like to know about

2469
02:58:19,383 --> 02:58:23,479
The meaning of your picture
and the shirt with the Triumph logo

2470
02:58:24,155 --> 02:58:25,384
?What did you want to know about it?

2471
02:58:25,490 --> 02:58:27,981
Well, I would like to know if this is an equivalent image

2472
02:58:28,093 --> 02:58:30,789
.that means a lot
There is a philosophical idea here

2473
02:58:32,865 --> 02:58:35,766
, and I would like to know, visually
?What does this represent to you?

2474
02:58:35,868 --> 02:58:38,098
Because you are part of this thing

2475
02:58:43,344 --> 02:58:46,006
.I haven't looked into it too much
...I'm not really

2476
02:58:46,113 --> 02:58:48,241
I gave it a lot of thought

2477
02:58:49,017 --> 02:58:52,214
It's just a picture taken one day
When I was sitting on the steps, you know

2478
02:58:52,320 --> 02:58:55,757
I really don't remember

2479
02:58:55,858 --> 02:58:57,723
I'm not too excited about it

2480
02:58:57,827 --> 02:59:01,320
?But what about the motorcycle as photography in your songs?

2481
02:59:01,598 --> 02:59:02,792
You seem to like it

2482
02:59:02,899 --> 02:59:07,132
- We all love motorcycles to one degree or another-
- I do

2483
02:59:08,506 --> 02:59:11,475
Do you tend to prefer songs
With an indirect or overt message

2484
02:59:11,676 --> 02:59:14,646
- With what?
- ?An indirect or direct message

2485
02:59:14,747 --> 02:59:17,739
...by message, you mean like
What a song with a message

2486
02:59:17,850 --> 02:59:21,309
'Eve of Destruction' like a song
and things like that

2487
02:59:24,190 --> 02:59:26,055
?Do I prefer this to what?

2488
02:59:27,027 --> 02:59:29,895
I'm not sure, but your songs
A subtle message is supposed to be conveyed

2489
02:59:29,997 --> 02:59:32,864
? A refined message-
- Well, they're supposed to be

2490
02:59:35,804 --> 02:59:37,965
?Where did you hear that?

2491
02:59:39,641 --> 02:59:41,974
- in a magazine about movies
- Oh, God!

2492
02:59:45,314 --> 02:59:48,614
Do you consider yourself
?More like a singer or a poet

2493
02:59:49,219 --> 02:59:52,313
I see myself more as a singer and dancer, you see

2494
02:59:54,358 --> 02:59:57,817
Mr. Dylan, I know you don't like labels
...and you are most likely right

2495
02:59:57,929 --> 03:00:00,921
...but for those of us over 30

2496
03:00:01,499 --> 03:00:05,903
Can you tag yourself?
And maybe tell us what your job is

2497
03:00:08,507 --> 03:00:11,033
Well, I label myself as under 30

2498
03:00:14,881 --> 03:00:19,342
And my job is simple
stay here as long as i can

2499
03:00:23,157 --> 03:00:25,183
...you are considered by many to

2500
03:00:25,294 --> 03:00:28,127
...a symbol of the protest movement in the country

2501
03:00:28,464 --> 03:00:29,180
for young people

2502
03:00:29,215 --> 03:00:29,897
for young people

2503
03:00:29,998 --> 03:00:31,660
...are you going to attend the

2504
03:00:31,768 --> 03:00:35,636
At the Vietnam Protest Day demonstration
In front of the Paramount Hotel this evening

2505
03:00:35,739 --> 03:00:37,230
I will be busy tonight

2506
03:00:40,411 --> 03:00:41,611
Things got out of control

2507
03:00:41,779 --> 03:00:44,681
...you know, it fell into the

2508
03:00:44,783 --> 03:00:47,183
you know
You ask me why I write surreal songs

2509
03:00:47,285 --> 03:00:51,655
or something like that
I mean that kind of activity is surreal

2510
03:00:51,758 --> 03:00:53,692
I have no answers to such questions

2511
03:00:53,793 --> 03:00:56,318
No more than any other artist, really

2512
03:00:57,163 --> 03:01:01,624
But, you know, it didn't stop

2513
03:01:01,869 --> 03:01:04,337
The press or people or whoever they were

2514
03:01:04,906 --> 03:01:08,433
ask these questions
...they, for some reason, the press thought

2515
03:01:08,543 --> 03:01:11,637
that the artists know the answers
for all these things

2516
03:01:12,314 --> 03:01:14,282
...problems in the company or in

2517
03:01:15,551 --> 03:01:17,382
...you know, like what can

2518
03:01:17,853 --> 03:01:21,620
What can be said about such a thing?
I mean, it just doesn't make sense

2519
03:01:22,526 --> 03:01:25,758
Phil Oakes wrote something in the last Broadside magazine

2520
03:01:25,863 --> 03:01:27,387
...in the sense that

2521
03:01:27,498 --> 03:01:31,195
...you've messed up so many people that he feels it's becoming a

2522
03:01:31,302 --> 03:01:35,535
becomes more and more dangerous for you
to perform publicly in front of an audience

2523
03:01:37,209 --> 03:01:40,407
Well, that's how it works, you know

2524
03:01:43,149 --> 03:01:46,277
I can't apologize, of course

2525
03:01:46,987 --> 03:01:51,117
...do you feel some of the popularity comes from identification

2526
03:01:51,425 --> 03:01:54,020
...of your audience with you or with

2527
03:01:54,129 --> 03:01:56,654
?What you say or what you wrote about

2528
03:01:56,765 --> 03:01:58,027
I have no idea

2529
03:01:58,466 --> 03:02:01,163
Mr. Dylan, you seem very unenthusiastic
...talk about the fact

2530
03:02:01,270 --> 03:02:04,262
You are a popular artist
And you are one of the most popular artists

2531
03:02:04,373 --> 03:02:07,013
What exactly do you want me to say?
...look, I just don't understand why you-

2532
03:02:07,043 --> 03:02:10,343
?Well, what do you want me to say about that?

2533
03:02:10,447 --> 03:02:13,780
You seem almost ashamed to admit it
...that you... or even talk about it

2534
03:02:13,884 --> 03:02:15,944
Well, I'm not embarrassed
...I mean, you know

2535
03:02:16,054 --> 03:02:17,954
?So what exactly do you want me to say?

2536
03:02:18,056 --> 03:02:21,048
You want me to jump up and shout 'Hallelujah'
...and I will break the cameras

2537
03:02:21,160 --> 03:02:23,958
And do something weird? tell me

2538
03:02:24,597 --> 03:02:25,757
I will flow with you

2539
03:02:25,865 --> 03:02:28,664
If I can't flow with you
I will find you someone who will go crazy with you

2540
03:02:28,768 --> 03:02:31,669
...No, but I find that
...you really have no idea

2541
03:02:31,771 --> 03:02:34,239
"Regarding "Why are you popular?
Or you have no thoughts about it at all

2542
03:02:34,341 --> 03:02:36,276
- That's what interests me
- ...I just

2543
03:02:36,377 --> 03:02:40,074
I didn't have to fight for it.
..I don't

2544
03:02:40,581 --> 03:02:42,072
?It just happened, you see

2545
03:02:43,518 --> 03:02:45,850
It happened just like other things happen

2546
03:02:46,055 --> 03:02:47,055
a week later
Los Angeles

2547
03:02:47,256 --> 03:02:49,418
Some people who work and make an effort

2548
03:02:49,525 --> 03:02:52,756
in the same musical world where
you work hard

2549
03:02:52,862 --> 03:02:54,762
?Some of them are really considered protest songs

2550
03:02:54,864 --> 03:02:59,495
That is, those who convey messages
through their music and songs

2551
03:02:59,904 --> 03:03:04,342
to protest the social situation
where we live today

2552
03:03:04,442 --> 03:03:07,878
Whether it's wars, crime
or anything else

2553
03:03:08,780 --> 03:03:10,271
How many of these are there?
yes-

2554
03:03:10,416 --> 03:03:11,940
...there are many who-

2555
03:03:12,051 --> 03:03:15,248
I think there are about 136

2556
03:03:17,024 --> 03:03:19,322
"?You mean 'about 136.'
- Yes

2557
03:03:20,827 --> 03:03:22,795
?Or you mean 136 exactly

2558
03:03:24,265 --> 03:03:27,029
It's either 136 or 142, there's nothing in between

2559
03:03:27,235 --> 03:03:31,770
At some point, it seemed to people
There was a distorted and distorted perception of me

2560
03:03:31,874 --> 03:03:35,071
for some reason
...and these people usually were

2561
03:03:35,177 --> 03:03:36,804
outside the world of music

2562
03:03:36,912 --> 03:03:38,881
"The voice that represents the generation"

2563
03:03:38,982 --> 03:03:41,849
"...the moral voice of"
This, that and everything in between

2564
03:03:41,952 --> 03:03:46,219
I couldn't connect to it
I just couldn't

2565
03:03:46,691 --> 03:03:49,626
As long as I could go on
to do what i loved to do

2566
03:03:49,727 --> 03:03:51,958
I didn't care
How did they define me?

2567
03:03:52,064 --> 03:03:56,091
, or how the media saw me
.because every night I performed in front of people

2568
03:04:03,476 --> 03:04:05,672
"I appeared in "Hollwood at the Wall".

2569
03:04:06,046 --> 03:04:08,674
After that I left the band

2570
03:04:08,916 --> 03:04:13,115
I was actually scared watching
in the tour schedule

2571
03:04:13,221 --> 03:04:15,382
When I saw we were standing
...to perform in Dallas, there

2572
03:04:15,490 --> 03:04:17,321
They just killed the president...

2573
03:04:18,159 --> 03:04:20,253
: And I thought, you know
"If they didn't like that person"

2574
03:04:20,363 --> 03:04:23,127
"What will they think of this man?"

2575
03:04:23,232 --> 03:04:25,826
And I didn't want to, you know
I didn't want to be

2576
03:04:25,936 --> 03:04:29,394
The comparison to John Connelly

2577
03:04:29,873 --> 03:04:32,239
I didn't want to be the person next to him

2578
03:04:32,542 --> 03:04:37,276
I started with Burgundy wine, but very quickly
I moved on to spicier things

2579
03:04:40,552 --> 03:04:44,181
They all said they would stand behind me

2580
03:04:44,289 --> 03:04:47,282
when the game "gets tough"

2581
03:04:48,395 --> 03:04:51,523
The guys who accompanied me on that tour
"The Band" - and later became

2582
03:04:51,631 --> 03:04:53,657
You know, we've all been through this together

2583
03:04:53,768 --> 03:04:56,259
...we put our heads straight into Harry's mouth and

2584
03:04:56,370 --> 03:04:58,770
I really appreciated them for that
that they didn't give up and stayed with me

2585
03:04:58,873 --> 03:05:02,537
Just because they did it, in my eyes they were
brave knights even

2586
03:05:02,644 --> 03:05:04,475
You know, standing behind me

2587
03:05:04,613 --> 03:05:08,072
When we got to England, it got out of hand

2588
03:05:08,551 --> 03:05:10,712
And I don't know if this is a rumor
word of mouth

2589
03:05:11,487 --> 03:05:13,682
preceded our tour

2590
03:05:17,995 --> 03:05:21,727
...but it was really revolutionary, in the fact that

2591
03:05:21,966 --> 03:05:24,400
Here was someone everyone loved

2592
03:05:25,036 --> 03:05:27,368
And they didn't like what he was doing

2593
03:05:27,806 --> 03:05:29,502
And they didn't hide it

2594
03:05:29,942 --> 03:05:32,342
These stages are made for people who go on stage

2595
03:05:32,445 --> 03:05:34,743
and read plays by Shakespeare

2596
03:05:34,847 --> 03:05:37,087
They weren't meant for that kind of music
The one we played

2597
03:05:37,150 --> 03:05:39,778
The sound was very dated, actually

2598
03:05:40,120 --> 03:05:44,421
The sound was not perfect at all
The sound quality was not at its peak

2599
03:05:44,725 --> 03:05:45,851
many years after that

2600
03:05:46,027 --> 03:05:49,191
in the first part of the show
Bob Dylan performed alone

2601
03:05:49,398 --> 03:05:51,025
with acoustic guitar and harmonica

2602
03:05:51,433 --> 03:05:55,961
When we started the second half, I mean
We really tore up the stage

2603
03:05:56,573 --> 03:05:59,872
And everyone who was there
Couldn't ignore us

2604
03:06:00,110 --> 03:06:01,805
They knew we had arrived

2605
03:06:02,078 --> 03:06:04,980
Because they were big fans of
The acoustic part

2606
03:06:05,282 --> 03:06:07,443
So when we went in and started the electrical part

2607
03:06:07,551 --> 03:06:09,610
...I heard from people in the audience the word Q

2608
03:06:10,455 --> 03:06:13,947
, that he was a traitor to folk music
.the pure music

2609
03:06:14,326 --> 03:06:17,125
.and the truth is that I have already reached a breaking point
...I'm tired of what

2610
03:06:17,230 --> 03:06:18,720
of this whole thing

2611
03:06:19,465 --> 03:06:23,526
, and I was... whether I was aware of it or not
...I searched

2612
03:06:23,636 --> 03:06:25,298
Just retire for a while

2613
03:06:26,073 --> 03:06:27,938
What about the show?
What are you fed up with?

2614
03:06:28,041 --> 03:06:29,668
And what about the musical thing, which you are tired of

2615
03:06:29,776 --> 03:06:33,235
.well, you know, people like you
People like that, you see

2616
03:06:33,348 --> 03:06:36,681
Just click

2617
03:06:36,784 --> 03:06:41,051
And they step on you, they expect you to answer questions
?You understand

2618
03:06:41,157 --> 03:06:45,151
What could I... you know, like
It was too morbid for anyone, really

2619
03:06:55,439 --> 03:06:58,898
The beard in black, don't break any mirrors

2620
03:06:59,511 --> 03:07:03,413
The dog in the black ice water
don't make tears

2621
03:07:04,416 --> 03:07:07,147
you say you love me
with what might be love

2622
03:07:08,788 --> 03:07:11,848
you don't remember we had
?Little love

2623
03:07:13,460 --> 03:07:15,587
...you have the drill, now you

2624
03:07:15,696 --> 03:07:19,326
looking for a boy
that will work for you

2625
03:07:19,434 --> 03:07:21,868
Like your heavy hammer did

2626
03:07:22,237 --> 03:07:25,297
...but I know you know you

2627
03:07:25,607 --> 03:07:27,974
...I know you find that something

2628
03:07:29,312 --> 03:07:32,770
Blows your mind

2629
03:07:36,787 --> 03:07:39,756
tell me mom

2630
03:07:41,125 --> 03:07:43,491
tell me mom

2631
03:07:45,763 --> 03:07:48,733
Tell me, mother, what's going on here

2632
03:07:50,202 --> 03:07:53,934
What's wrong with you.... this time

2633
03:08:03,351 --> 03:08:04,351
! He is cheap

2634
03:08:05,720 --> 03:08:08,747
and does half a show
Half this way, half that way

2635
03:08:08,924 --> 03:08:11,654
!Fake, hypocritical

2636
03:08:12,194 --> 03:08:13,491
It is what it is

2637
03:08:13,595 --> 03:08:15,996
...everyone is wondering when

2638
03:08:16,099 --> 03:08:19,068
Your friendship will end, though

2639
03:08:19,168 --> 03:08:22,605
Come on baby, I'm your friend

2640
03:08:22,706 --> 03:08:25,641
And I know you know I know

2641
03:08:26,543 --> 03:08:28,739
that you find out that something

2642
03:08:30,282 --> 03:08:34,514
devours your thoughts

2643
03:08:37,823 --> 03:08:39,916
nonsense -
nonsense trash -

2644
03:08:41,093 --> 03:08:42,652
- absolute garbage
- pitiful

2645
03:08:42,763 --> 03:08:44,196
silly

2646
03:08:44,431 --> 03:08:47,889
We paid to see a folk singer
And not a full band

2647
03:08:55,677 --> 03:08:57,771
?Didn't you boo last night -
- I don't

2648
03:08:57,880 --> 03:08:59,609
- Oh
- We didn't boo, Bob

2649
03:08:59,748 --> 03:09:01,511
- Please just a minute
- Good

2650
03:09:01,617 --> 03:09:04,212
I want to know the names
of everyone who shouted scorn against me

2651
03:09:04,321 --> 03:09:07,882
We didn't curse you Bob-
come back soon-

2652
03:09:08,091 --> 03:09:10,959
Well... I... I'll be back in a month or two

2653
03:09:11,062 --> 03:09:14,122
- We will wait for you
- Goodbye, take care of yourselves

2654
03:09:14,565 --> 03:09:16,499
You are such sweet and wonderful people

2655
03:09:16,600 --> 03:09:18,364
- Hello, Bob
- Goodbye, sweeties

2656
03:09:18,470 --> 03:09:21,337
, in the first half
...when everyone is so quiet, I just

2657
03:09:21,440 --> 03:09:25,241
I played a few songs, and they sat there
in complete silence

2658
03:09:25,678 --> 03:09:27,270
And suddenly ... contempt

2659
03:09:30,483 --> 03:09:32,975
"And then Albert came out on stage, and they started, "Boz

2660
03:09:33,087 --> 03:09:35,487
And I loved the description
in the paper last night

2661
03:09:35,589 --> 03:09:36,909
What they said, it was classic

2662
03:09:36,957 --> 03:09:38,858
There was no truth in the whole article

2663
03:09:38,960 --> 03:09:40,587
It was just full of lies
fantastic

2664
03:09:40,695 --> 03:09:43,163
- that they could invent
- ?From which city, bro?

2665
03:09:43,264 --> 03:09:46,723
From the last city, Edinburgh
"Another night of derogatory calls to Dylan"

2666
03:09:46,869 --> 03:09:50,327
- Oh, I didn't see that
- "Quite a few of the spectators left the hall"

2667
03:09:50,940 --> 03:09:53,705
.I saw one, bro
...you saw one newspaper that wrote

2668
03:09:53,810 --> 03:09:57,268
"?Everyone went out"-
I haven't seen this yet-

2669
03:09:57,714 --> 03:10:01,549
Everyone went out
I came across a newspaper which read: 'The whole crowd deserted

2670
03:10:01,786 --> 03:10:05,017
- In Liverpool, I saw
- They are really losing their minds

2671
03:10:08,594 --> 03:10:11,222
- totally lost it
- I'm about to go out

2672
03:10:12,431 --> 03:10:14,024
"We want the real Dylan"

2673
03:10:14,300 --> 03:10:16,165
"?Will the real Dylan get up and show up"

2674
03:10:17,804 --> 03:10:20,797
I came to the conclusion that I would just tell them
Dylan is sick

2675
03:10:20,979 --> 03:10:25,079
They said you must be the ultimate beatnik

2676
03:10:25,880 --> 03:10:28,645
?What do you think?
...only

2677
03:10:28,817 --> 03:10:30,751
I won't tell anyone what you say
?What do you think?

2678
03:10:30,852 --> 03:10:33,447
not your personal opinion-
?Yes. what do you think-

2679
03:10:34,657 --> 03:10:36,522
I have no opinion on that

2680
03:10:37,026 --> 03:10:38,186
Well, why?

2681
03:10:38,795 --> 03:10:41,128
Because the truth is
I didn't get to hear you sing

2682
03:10:41,231 --> 03:10:43,461
?You've never heard me sing

2683
03:10:43,567 --> 03:10:46,367
And here you are sitting here
And asking me all these questions

2684
03:10:46,437 --> 03:10:48,770
- Well, that's my job
- Yes, good

2685
03:10:48,915 --> 03:10:53,015
London, England

2686
03:10:54,815 --> 03:10:57,115
?Could you suck on your glasses for a moment?

2687
03:10:57,716 --> 03:11:00,549
?suck them -
- Put them in your mouth for a moment

2688
03:11:00,653 --> 03:11:03,680
.Put the edge of your glasses in your mouth
.this is it

2689
03:11:03,790 --> 03:11:05,382
Just suck the glasses

2690
03:11:08,030 --> 03:11:10,130
?You want to suck them

2691
03:11:10,631 --> 03:11:12,258
No, I don't want to suck them

2692
03:11:12,366 --> 03:11:14,357
- ?Someone here wants to suck my glasses
- Yes

2693
03:11:14,627 --> 03:11:17,727
Paris, France

2694
03:11:24,327 --> 03:11:28,327
Do you agree with the statement?
...that you should be the leader

2695
03:11:28,627 --> 03:11:30,627
?of all the singers who convey a statement and a message...

2696
03:11:31,027 --> 03:11:33,127
No, I don't know what it is

2697
03:11:33,127 --> 03:11:34,927
...You don't think your first records

2698
03:11:35,027 --> 03:11:36,627
?were much better than the ones you put out now

2699
03:11:36,728 --> 03:11:37,728
?Who said that?

2700
03:11:37,829 --> 03:11:42,357
- It's here. This man is here
- you? Ask him if he is American

2701
03:11:43,436 --> 03:11:45,563
- ?Are you American?
- I'm French

2702
03:11:47,607 --> 03:11:50,600
Well, that's probably why you're thinking
that the first albums are better

2703
03:11:50,661 --> 03:11:52,761
?Why are you singing?

2704
03:11:53,461 --> 03:11:56,361
Why? - Just because I feel like singing

2705
03:11:58,761 --> 03:12:01,461
Is there anything in particular?

2706
03:12:01,561 --> 03:12:03,261
?that you want to convey when you sing

2707
03:12:03,361 --> 03:12:05,061
No

2708
03:12:06,462 --> 03:12:08,453
...it's called

2709
03:12:09,899 --> 03:12:14,860
.It's a folk song
.I want to sing a folk song now

2710
03:12:21,779 --> 03:12:24,408
I knew it would make you happy

2711
03:12:25,317 --> 03:12:30,118
"It's called: "Yes, I see you have a new leopard skin hat

2712
03:13:34,930 --> 03:13:37,194
-Sign me
- You are so miserable

2713
03:13:37,299 --> 03:13:40,097
- ...it won't take more than
- It won't take half an hour just to sign it

2714
03:13:40,202 --> 03:13:43,434
They don't ask me, these other two people
?They don't ask me. why do you ask

2715
03:13:43,539 --> 03:13:45,564
Why don't you?
- ?You suffer so much

2716
03:13:45,675 --> 03:13:47,142
Why did we actually bother to come see you?

2717
03:13:47,243 --> 03:13:49,644
- ...because they love me, that's what they said
- We don't love you anymore

2718
03:13:49,747 --> 03:13:50,747
She called me a snooze

2719
03:13:50,848 --> 03:13:53,180
- I'll tell you why
- ?Could I have your autograph, please?

2720
03:13:53,283 --> 03:13:55,309
He'll call you a snooze if you don't sign

2721
03:13:55,420 --> 03:13:56,580
- Please Bob
- Well, please

2722
03:13:56,821 --> 03:14:00,382
You don't need my signature
If you needed it, I would give it to you

2723
03:14:00,992 --> 03:14:04,724
- ?Just give your signature, fine
- ?What's going on with him today, eh?

2724
03:14:04,864 --> 03:14:07,355
isn't it like the night

2725
03:14:07,466 --> 03:14:11,267
play tricks on him
When you try to be so quiet

2726
03:14:15,276 --> 03:14:17,710
We are stuck here

2727
03:14:18,179 --> 03:14:21,842
Although we all do our best to deny it

2728
03:14:25,320 --> 03:14:29,485
And Louise catches raindrops in her palm

2729
03:14:29,726 --> 03:14:32,854
tempts you to change his mouth

2730
03:14:35,699 --> 03:14:40,364
Lights flicker from the attic opposite

2731
03:14:41,772 --> 03:14:45,265
In this room
The heating pipes only cough

2732
03:14:47,179 --> 03:14:50,877
The country station is playing in the background
gently

2733
03:14:51,184 --> 03:14:55,120
But there is nothing
Really nothing to turn off

2734
03:15:01,028 --> 03:15:03,360
Only Louise

2735
03:15:03,998 --> 03:15:07,991
And her beloved is wrapped around her so much

2736
03:15:11,440 --> 03:15:15,604
And these visions of Johanna

2737
03:15:17,346 --> 03:15:20,748
that occupy my thoughts

2738
03:15:31,730 --> 03:15:33,698
?Hey, we've been on the road for a long time, haven't we?

2739
03:15:33,799 --> 03:15:36,165
i don't know i don't remember

2740
03:15:36,468 --> 03:15:39,199
- I guess maybe so
- We spent a lot of time on the road

2741
03:15:39,305 --> 03:15:42,866
Bro, I can't come tonight
Don't know how to hide it

2742
03:15:42,976 --> 03:15:45,206
This is something I never understood

2743
03:15:46,113 --> 03:15:49,549
There is nothing I can do about it
I just didn't have to sing

2744
03:15:51,051 --> 03:15:53,384
I think next week
I'll find me a new Bob Dylan

2745
03:15:53,488 --> 03:15:55,649
Get me a new Bob Dylan and use it

2746
03:15:57,192 --> 03:15:59,718
Use the new Bob Dylan
!See how long it will last

2747
03:16:00,163 --> 03:16:02,757
He takes pride in his suffering

2748
03:16:03,199 --> 03:16:06,397
He enjoys a dangerous life

2749
03:16:10,107 --> 03:16:12,701
And every time her name comes up

2750
03:16:13,077 --> 03:16:16,240
He tells about the goodbye kiss she gave me

2751
03:16:19,985 --> 03:16:22,852
...he has a bit of audacity

2752
03:16:25,157 --> 03:16:28,525
To be so empty and worthless...

2753
03:16:30,363 --> 03:16:34,357
Whispering empty words to the silent wall

2754
03:16:34,702 --> 03:16:37,296
While standing in the corridor

2755
03:16:41,043 --> 03:16:44,171
?Oh, how can I explain?

2756
03:16:44,279 --> 03:16:48,239
How hard it is to move on

2757
03:16:51,554 --> 03:16:55,685
And those visions of Johanna

2758
03:16:56,627 --> 03:17:01,257
They kept me up until dawn

2759
03:17:24,826 --> 03:17:27,954
i want to go home
?Do you know what a house is?

2760
03:17:28,463 --> 03:17:32,423
I don't want to go to Italy anymore
I don't want to go anywhere

2761
03:17:32,801 --> 03:17:35,099
...you end up crashing in a private plane

2762
03:17:35,204 --> 03:17:38,038
.in the mountains of Tennessee

2763
03:17:39,643 --> 03:17:40,701
or in Sicily

2764
03:17:42,879 --> 03:17:46,976
, when you stay in the United States
?I mean, when are you coming back?

2765
03:17:47,318 --> 03:17:49,479
don't know just want to go home

2766
03:17:50,727 --> 03:17:58,027
On July 29, 1966
Shortly after returning from a European tour
Bob Dylan was involved in a motorcycle accident

2767
03:18:29,528 --> 03:18:31,793
-- ?You are in control of the situation at all
- Yes

2768
03:18:31,931 --> 03:18:33,228
?How is the sound?

2769
03:18:33,466 --> 03:18:35,991
just like you
Inside a recording studio downstairs

2770
03:18:36,136 --> 03:18:38,104
This bastard sounds great here

2771
03:18:38,405 --> 03:18:41,239
The sound here is excellent
I have no idea what it will sound like

2772
03:18:41,342 --> 03:18:44,505
?Friends, can you come please?
In about two minutes

2773
03:18:45,446 --> 03:18:46,812
OK, two minutes

2774
03:18:46,915 --> 03:18:49,475
No, I meant until you get down there
It will take about two minutes

2775
03:18:49,518 --> 03:18:51,478
"No "In two minutes we start going down there

2776
03:18:53,656 --> 03:18:56,454
- Yes, two minutes
- Hey two minutes man

2777
03:19:05,336 --> 03:19:08,363
Last on the list
...but certainly no less important, ladies and gentlemen

2778
03:19:10,975 --> 03:19:13,034
Here he is, back from the grave

2779
03:19:13,579 --> 03:19:16,047
Right, straight from the grave

2780
03:19:18,625 --> 03:19:23,025
Judas! (traitor)

2781
03:19:25,726 --> 03:19:27,661
I don't believe you

2782
03:19:37,072 --> 03:19:38,300
You are a liar

2783
03:19:41,994 --> 03:19:44,694
Play it really loud

2784
03:19:57,095 --> 03:19:59,962
There were times when you would dress really nice

2785
03:20:00,065 --> 03:20:02,626
At your peak, you threw coins to beggars

2786
03:20:04,170 --> 03:20:05,865
?Not like that

2787
03:20:08,174 --> 03:20:12,134
: People would tell you
"Watch out, baby, you're going to crash"

2788
03:20:12,246 --> 03:20:14,908
You were sure they were just

2789
03:20:15,249 --> 03:20:17,047
You are being laughed at

2790
03:20:19,921 --> 03:20:22,720
 You used to laugh about it

2791
03:20:22,825 --> 03:20:28,888
   After the motorcycle accident - Bob Dylan
Continued to write and record songs

2792
03:20:29,373 --> 03:20:35,073
He didn't go on tour
for eight years

2793
03:20:36,574 --> 03:20:40,840
now you too 
You don't look so proud

2794
03:20:41,646 --> 03:20:44,946
That you need to scratch somehow

2795
03:20:45,751 --> 03:20:50,211
your next meal

2796
03:20:51,124 --> 03:20:53,786
?How does it feel?

2797
03:20:56,763 --> 03:20:58,026
how does it really feel

2798
03:21:01,435 --> 03:21:04,633
to be completely alone

2799
03:21:06,808 --> 03:21:10,209
With no direction, no home to return to

2800
03:21:12,181 --> 03:21:15,673
Like someone no one knows 

2801
03:21:17,820 --> 03:21:21,313
?Like a rolling stone

2802
03:21:33,138 --> 03:21:35,629
You went to the best school

2803
03:21:35,741 --> 03:21:39,473
No doubt, lonely lady
But you know you were there

2804
03:21:40,814 --> 03:21:43,305
Just to get drunk

2805
03:21:44,084 --> 03:21:48,613
And no one ever 
You were not taught how to live on the streets

2806
03:21:48,756 --> 03:21:50,587
but now

2807
03:21:51,325 --> 03:21:54,955
You find you have no choice but to
 get used to it

2808
03:21:56,565 --> 03:22:01,026
You said you would never compromise

2809
03:22:01,738 --> 03:22:06,402
...with the unknown tramp, but now you understand

2810
03:22:07,211 --> 03:22:11,477
that he doesn't sell you any excuses

2811
03:22:12,683 --> 03:22:16,814
While staring blankly in his eyes

2812
03:22:17,155 --> 03:22:18,816
... and says

2813
03:22:19,457 --> 03:22:24,259
"?want to make a deal"

2814
03:22:26,933 --> 03:22:30,165
? how does it feel

2815
03:22:32,272 --> 03:22:35,037
how does it really feel

2816
03:22:36,878 --> 03:22:40,507
to be completely alone

2817
03:22:42,618 --> 03:22:46,145
With no direction, no home to return to

2818
03:22:48,090 --> 03:22:51,720
Like someone no one knows

2819
03:22:53,463 --> 03:22:57,264
?Like a rolling pain

2820
03:23:29,170 --> 03:23:30,763
thank you

2821
03:23:38,382 --> 03:23:43,251
Lay down your weary tune

2822
03:23:43,553 --> 03:23:44,919
Lay down

2823
03:23:47,158 --> 03:23:50,423
Lay down the song you strum

2824
03:23:52,798 --> 03:23:55,323
And rest yourself

2825
03:23:55,434 --> 03:23:58,495
'neath the strength of strings

2826
03:24:00,240 --> 03:24:03,869
No voice can hope

2827
03:24:03,977 --> 03:24:05,605
to hum

2828
03:24:08,449 --> 03:24:12,887
Struck by the sounds before the sun

2829
03:24:15,791 --> 03:24:19,592
I knew the night had gone

2830
03:24:21,564 --> 03:24:24,192
The morning breeze

2831
03:24:24,300 --> 03:24:26,769
like a bugle blew

2832
03:24:29,106 --> 03:24:34,010
Against the drums of dawn

2833
03:24:35,814 --> 03:24:40,548
Lay down your weary tune

2834
03:24:40,653 --> 03:24:42,052
Lay down

2835
03:24:44,123 --> 03:24:48,060
Lay down the song you strum

2836
03:24:48,628 --> 03:24:51,153
And rest yourself

2837
03:24:51,264 --> 03:24:54,063
'neath the strength of strings

2838
03:24:56,070 --> 03:24:59,767
No voice can hope

2839
03:24:59,875 --> 03:25:01,172
to hum

2840
03:25:03,278 --> 03:25:06,406
The ocean wild

2841
03:25:06,515 --> 03:25:09,451
like an organ played

2842
03:25:11,421 --> 03:25:15,449
The seaweed's wove its strands

2843
03:25:16,861 --> 03:25:19,455
The crashin' waves

2844
03:25:19,563 --> 03:25:22,431
like cymbals clashed

2845
03:25:23,969 --> 03:25:27,564
Against the rocks

2846
03:25:27,673 --> 03:25:29,698
and sands

2847
03:25:30,643 --> 03:25:35,604
Lay down your weary tune

2848
03:25:35,816 --> 03:25:37,215
Lay down

2849
03:25:39,419 --> 03:25:43,322
Lay down the song you strum

2850
03:25:45,026 --> 03:25:47,517
And rest yourself

2851
03:25:47,629 --> 03:25:50,622
'neath the strength of strings

2852
03:25:52,334 --> 03:25:55,896
No voice can hope

2853
03:25:56,006 --> 03:25:57,530
to hum

2854
03:25:59,176 --> 03:26:04,012
I stood unwound beneath the skies

2855
03:26:06,083 --> 03:26:10,487
And clouds unbound by laws

2856
03:26:11,723 --> 03:26:14,283
The cryin' rain

2857
03:26:14,393 --> 03:26:17,056
like a trumpet sang

2858
03:26:19,165 --> 03:26:24,069
And asked for no applause

2859
03:26:24,839 --> 03:26:29,538
Lay down your weary tune

2860
03:26:29,643 --> 03:26:31,009
Lay down

2861
03:26:33,081 --> 03:26:36,539
Lay down the song you strum

2862
03:26:36,651 --> 03:26:38,984
And rest yourself

2863
03:26:39,088 --> 03:26:41,886
'neath the strength of strings

2864
03:26:43,693 --> 03:26:47,255
No voice can hope

2865
03:26:47,364 --> 03:26:49,229
to hum

2866
03:26:50,767 --> 03:26:55,467
The last of leave fell from the trees

2867
03:26:57,743 --> 03:27:01,975
And clung to a new love's breast

2868
03:27:03,315 --> 03:27:08,253
The branches bare like a banjo moaned

2869
03:27:10,590 --> 03:27:15,528
To the winds that listened best

2870
03:27:17,565 --> 03:27:22,469
Lay down your weary tune
Lay down

2871
03:27:24,907 --> 03:27:28,469
Lay down the song you strum

2872
03:27:28,578 --> 03:27:30,944
And rest yourself

2873
03:27:31,047 --> 03:27:33,846
'neath the strength of strings

2874
03:27:35,853 --> 03:27:40,791
No voice can hope to hum

