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Not many people were privy to the
transformation of Goldberg the human to

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Goldberg the character.

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When you're a kid, you fantasize about
power.

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Goldberg getting the spear, that's a
power.

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You get older, you care about overcoming
adversity.

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You care about the substance of the
character that defines the man.

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What he has been through to get to where
he is.

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Goldberg in the ring is the ramped up
alter ego of Bill the person.

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Twelve years, ladies and gentlemen.

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Never thought I'd be in this ring again.

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The biggest thing that I miss is being a
superhero for the kids all

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around the world.

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If a superhero is defined ultimately by

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the obstacles he or she overcomes in the

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course of their journey,

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Goldberg's legacy should be defined by
the fact he

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overcame his biggest challenge.

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Automatic voice message system.

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Not the tone. Please record your
message.

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Hey, baby. Just letting you know I'm
going to your gauge.

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I'm doing a tone -up real quick.

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Good footage for you guys.

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I figured you might like that.

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I was born in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

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Nice Jewish kid in the middle of nowhere
in Tulsa. And father was an

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obstetrician -gynecologist. My mother
was a concert violinist and a United

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States Orchid judge.

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So how I came out of that combination is
completely beyond me.

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I had two older brothers and an older
sister.

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They're much older, 14, 16, and 18 years
older than I am.

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I was the only one at the house, the
only kid at the house growing up.

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As a kid, I was kind of a loner.

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I kind of grew up on my own.

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Myself and my best friend, which was the
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time.

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Rocky was his name.

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I went to Hebrew school. Yes, I did.

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Temple Israel.

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I was ridiculed.

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Day after day after day for being
Jewish. Not a lot of Jewish people will

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you that because we internalize it.

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We don't like to tell people about it.

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But it happened.

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And the only way that I can tell you
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movie A Christmas Story.

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When he finally jumps on the bully
outside in the snow and he's yelling

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obscenities as he's punching him with
both hands in the face.

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That was my story.

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There are many things I like about
football.

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One thing that really sets it apart from
anything else that you do is the

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feeling of competition.

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Not only does it pose one team against
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compete one -on -one with another
person.

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My love for football dates back to the
first picture I ever saw of me.

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And I had Bill Goldberg, All -American,
1989, whatever it was.

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I played nose guard.

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And I tried to inflict as much bodily
harm on every human being in front of me

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as humanly possible.

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To be able to do that without being
thrown in jail is an unbelievable

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And I think that's why I liked it so
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Welcome to Stanford Stadium, one of the
shrines of college football.

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Being able to play major college
football at the University of Georgia

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of the biggest honors I've ever been
bestowed.

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Watch number 95, Bill Goldberg. Carolina
ball is fumbled. They call Bill

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Goldberg the best defensive lineman in
the South.

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That's the most comfortable place that I
could ever be.

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I'm going to be a football player until
the day that I die. They say Bill

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Goldberg has a screw loose, but he's
wild and woolly. Goldberg with a body

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And Bill Goldberg is pushing and
shoving.

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Look at this. Looks like Foreman Cooney.

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Big hole in the middle. Lost the ball.

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Georgia and it's a 33.

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Bill Goldberg, number 95, the sophomore
from Tulsa, Oklahoma, makes the

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recovery.

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Bill Goldberg was a violent football
player.

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Extremely aggressive.

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I officiated high school football for 20
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That's how I came across Bill Goldberg.

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My football crew was officiating a game
that his high school team, the Edison

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Eagles, played in.

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And, of course, he was the talk of the
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in the state of Oklahoma.

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Okay, let's go.

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I got like 15 minutes for you to make me
cry.

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He had a nice career.

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He had some injury issues, but he had a
decent career.

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How's the knee?

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You know what, man? I'll tell you.

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This thing, it's the root of it. Think
I've been working in the yard? No

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kidding.

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This thing is bigger.

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See the size of that now?

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Yeah, it's good.

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I mean, you can never do as good as you
want to do. To give you the mindset of

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Bill Goldberg when I was drafted, I was
pissed.

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because it took until the second day of
the 11th round.

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So I took it personally, and immediately
I was like, okay, when do we report?

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I'm ready to rock.

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I played for the Rams until the last
preseason game, tore my hamstring, got

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worked the rest of the year to rehab,
get ready, got signed by the Rams again

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the offseason, got cut again.

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Did it make me start questioning myself?
Yes.

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Did it piss me off to the point where I
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that I showed them that they were wrong?

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Yes.

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I went to the Canadian League to check
it out.

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I didn't like the pay scale, nor did I
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like 30 pounds. That didn't last very
long.

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And so I signed with the World Football
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and then went straight from there.

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Three weeks later to the Atlanta
Falcons, right into their training camp.

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I never really had a backup plan. I
didn't want to face reality in that

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I didn't want to know what if.

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Needless to say, I love football.

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Good evening.

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I'm very pleased to announce that the
Carolina Panthers have been unanimously

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selected as the... For the first time
since 1976, the NFL opened its doors

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to expansion.

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When the expansion teams came to be, the
Jacksonville Jaguars and the Carolina

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Panthers, each existing NFL team put up
four people on their roster that went to

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supplemental draft.

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Carolina picked me.

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Unbeknownst to them, I had had surgery
like two weeks before, repairing my

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abdomen and reattaching it to my pelvis.

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Let's just say that my physical
condition and the trajectory of the

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Panthers were going in opposite
directions.

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It wasn't the right fit. It wasn't the
right time in my life.

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And I actually asked for my release.

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The tibia is rotated a little bit on
this foot. Yeah. So it's more posterior.

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I'll tell you what, man. When I just...
Yeah.

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That hurts really bad.

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I've hurt myself so many different times
and had so many different surgeries.

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They all kind of run together.

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But I know that one was pretty
extensive.

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Any kind of rehab that you're going to
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strenuous. It's going to be...

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monotonous, and it's going to be painful
as hell.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, you're getting close.

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Yeah, you're on it.

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When I got hurt, I thought my career was
over.

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I thought that my lifting was over. I
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what I was.

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That's the human being that I am.

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I'm a physical guy.

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I've worked my ass off for 20, 30 years,
25 years on my body.

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There has to be something I can apply it
to.

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Football had gotten him a college
education.

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Football had gotten him a cup of coffee
or two in the NFL.

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He made teams. He was on rosters.

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You know, let's cut to the chase here.

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Goldberg needed a job.

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The person that told me to give
wrestling a shot was my accountant.

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Because he called me one day and told me
to get off my ass and go do something.

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If you drew a picture of what a pro
wrestler should look like, all you got

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is clip out a photo of Bill Goldberg.

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So he looked the part, and that's a big
step in the right direction. You've got

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to look the part.

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One of the most interesting questions I
get, whether I'm on a plane and someone

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recognizes me or finds out who I am or
someone that I've known for a long time,

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I get the question, how do you get into
the wrestling business?

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The WCW Power Plant will help you reach
your potential. They'll train your body,

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work on your moves, and motivate you to
be your best. The WCW Power Plant.

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The number one wrestling facility in the
world.

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WCW in the 90s started something called
the power plant that was where they

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would train people to become wrestlers.
And usually they were pretty green.

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They had a bunch of trainers, former
wrestlers, current wrestlers, who would

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teach them all the skills they needed to
become an on -screen performer.

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Coming out of football, And then
learning

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how to become a great professional
wrestler is not an easy transition.

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Because you're having to unlearn many
aspects of what made you

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a successful football player.

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In the NFL, your intent is to go out and
hit them as hard as you possibly can.

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And then you show up at the power plant.
No, no, no, no, no.

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That's not quite what we do here.

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We kind of dance, but we just make it
look like it hurts.

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Five, six days a week, nine to five,
just busting your ass, trying to learn

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to get off the ropes, hit the ropes, how
to do flips, how to take break falls,

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how to not hurt people.

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It's a must, and it's a grind.

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Good. Excellent.

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The fact that Bill started his
professional wrestling career at 30

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the deck is stacked against you. That is
a very, very late stage in life to

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enter into professional wrestling. It
takes a long time to get good

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at professional wrestling.

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Since we first put wrestling on Turner
Network many years ago, it's been

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exciting entertainment programming for
all our viewers.

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World Championship Wrestling has always
been one of our most popular programs.

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And now WCW is about to dominate the
globe in professional wrestling.

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Ted Turner decided that he wanted to go
head -to -head and compete with WWE.

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Ted Turner said, Skidberry, head -to
-head Monday night TNT against WWE.

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The Monday night war is...

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by far the most exciting time to ever be
a pro wrestling fan.

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We've got two big wrestling companies,
WWE, which is a sort of institution, and

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WCW, which is the underdog.

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It's these two wrestling institutions
that are vying for your eyeballs.

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This is the 90s. You were physically
flipping channels with your remote

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back and forth. Every time one show goes
to commercial, you're immediately on

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the other show, so they are actively
competing in real time to keep you glued

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your TV screen.

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These two monoliths were just fighting
tooth and nail for your attention.

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But it became this sort of proxy battle,
right? It was like, who wins the

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ratings every week became the talking
point.

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That became a huge moment in time. It
was a signal that the tide had turned.

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WCW was outperforming WWE each and every
week. It wasn't even close.

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We are the champions!

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We are the champions!

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Here we go, the next bout here on WCW.

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A newcomer here in Bill Goldberg, a man
we know absolutely nothing about, but he

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is making his debut here.

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We were three months in the power plant.
If that, Bill had enough fundamentals

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that we could take him out of the power
plant and now put him out in front of a

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live crowd.

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And typically when you would bring new
talent out, sometimes they'd get into

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sometimes they wouldn't. Most of the
time they didn't care.

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Bill Gobert grabbed everybody's
attention.

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Nobody knew who he was.

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It was just a guy walking out in his
underwear that captured everybody's

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imagination.

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How about that backflip?

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And that's a lot to lift, over 300
pounds of Hugh Morris. And he did it

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ease that time. He's going to pick it up
again.

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Scoot, put him down.

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I'm a lessons more guy.

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I wanted to be the Mike Tyson of
Redwood.

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Black tights, black boots, knock people
out and leave.

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Next.

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Muscles, he moves.

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Combination slam, one, two.

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The plan was to be so simple and so
devastating and so quick that people

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like, did you just see that?

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No? Well, damn.

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Got to wait another week to see it.

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Wrestling at its very core is an
interactive experience.

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It's less like a boxing match and more
like an election.

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You're standing up in front of a giant
crowd and trying to get that crowd to go

236
00:17:59,780 --> 00:18:03,200
crazy. You're trying to get them behind
you.

237
00:18:03,940 --> 00:18:07,000
To get that reaction is the game. That's
the contest.

238
00:18:08,540 --> 00:18:14,840
Bill came out, breathing fire, spitting
smoke, and the crowd just went, whoa,

239
00:18:15,260 --> 00:18:17,560
what is this?

240
00:18:18,020 --> 00:18:23,240
And we were all sitting backstage going,
whoa, look at them react.

241
00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:32,500
Bill was now going to be on a very
accelerated flight path.

242
00:18:33,620 --> 00:18:36,800
Jogging! Count him out! He wins again!

243
00:18:37,340 --> 00:18:38,560
What do you want to know?

244
00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:39,880
50! 60!

245
00:18:40,780 --> 00:18:42,040
He's my favorite!

246
00:18:42,360 --> 00:18:46,040
Put another mark in the wind column for
that man right there!

247
00:18:46,340 --> 00:18:52,260
Goldberg was a down and dirty and very
easy to figure out persona.

248
00:18:52,740 --> 00:18:53,740
Fear.

249
00:18:55,740 --> 00:18:56,740
Jackhammer.

250
00:18:57,380 --> 00:18:58,380
Ha!

251
00:18:59,180 --> 00:19:01,260
Pin audience reaction.

252
00:19:03,300 --> 00:19:04,300
Who's next?

253
00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:05,440
You're next.

254
00:19:05,540 --> 00:19:06,479
That's it.

255
00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:11,840
We saw him last night at Spring Stand
Pete, and he goes down!

256
00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,980
That's a 10 on the Richter!

257
00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,860
I want it to be something completely
different than people have ever seen

258
00:19:19,860 --> 00:19:20,860
before.

259
00:19:43,799 --> 00:19:48,140
We didn't want to put Bill in the
position that ultimately we did.

260
00:19:48,660 --> 00:19:54,900
The fear was if we're going to keep
pushing this guy this fast on this

261
00:19:54,900 --> 00:20:00,200
accelerated flight path and trajectory,
we're going to reach a point where...

262
00:20:00,780 --> 00:20:03,900
We're going to run out of guys for him
to eat.

263
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,520
And you're getting to that point now
where we're looking at Bill and going,

264
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:09,560
okay, what do we do?

265
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:20,080
Hollywood, Hulk Hogan, the WCW champion,
is contractually

266
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:26,420
obligated to be in the Georgia Dome this
coming Monday night for Nitro to defend

267
00:20:26,420 --> 00:20:29,920
the WCW heavyweight title belt.

268
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:36,940
Against what I feel is the number one
contender, Goldberg!

269
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:49,400
I remember I was

270
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:50,400
in L .A.

271
00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:58,580
And I remember exactly where I was. I
was on the 90.

272
00:20:59,070 --> 00:21:00,570
Taking an exit in the Marina Del Rey.

273
00:21:04,550 --> 00:21:05,690
My phone rang.

274
00:21:07,990 --> 00:21:10,590
It was Hulk Hogan.

275
00:21:10,810 --> 00:21:13,610
He said, brother, I got to talk to you.
I got an idea.

276
00:21:14,450 --> 00:21:16,990
And Hulk said, I know what we need to do
with Bill.

277
00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:20,350
I said, okay, I'm all ears, brother.
What do you got? He goes, he's going to

278
00:21:20,350 --> 00:21:21,350
beat me.

279
00:21:23,510 --> 00:21:25,490
I did what you're doing just right now.

280
00:21:25,710 --> 00:21:26,870
I went.

281
00:21:28,010 --> 00:21:29,010
Whoa, what?

282
00:21:29,610 --> 00:21:30,610
Listen up, brother.

283
00:21:30,770 --> 00:21:31,770
It's time.

284
00:21:31,870 --> 00:21:32,870
Hulk Hogan's here!

285
00:21:33,890 --> 00:21:36,070
Hulk Hogan is in the building!

286
00:21:36,410 --> 00:21:38,490
You're damn right he is! Go get him,
Hulkster!

287
00:21:38,710 --> 00:21:40,570
At that point, Hulk Hogan is the
institution.

288
00:21:40,910 --> 00:21:46,130
He's also seen as being kind of past his
prime, so people are happy to see him

289
00:21:46,130 --> 00:21:51,910
deposed from that spot. And for Goldberg
to take it was a natural fit based on

290
00:21:51,910 --> 00:21:52,910
the story they were telling.

291
00:21:53,070 --> 00:21:54,070
Hulk Hogan!

292
00:21:59,310 --> 00:22:03,450
I look at the sum of all the parts. So
all of a sudden, I'm looking at this

293
00:22:03,450 --> 00:22:08,230
thing of Bill Goldberg, and I feel this
crazy momentum coming.

294
00:22:09,450 --> 00:22:15,450
If I could get him as big as Hulk Hogan
was, now I got somebody to work with.

295
00:22:15,770 --> 00:22:20,270
Now I got somebody to make money with.
And I'm looking around going, hmm, how

296
00:22:20,270 --> 00:22:21,510
can I create another monster?

297
00:22:23,410 --> 00:22:25,330
Every bad guy needs a good guy.

298
00:22:26,090 --> 00:22:32,590
Hogan needed somebody, and they wanted
it to be this nice Jewish boy from

299
00:22:32,590 --> 00:22:34,010
Oklahoma, Goldberg.

300
00:22:56,750 --> 00:22:58,470
straight A's for Goldberg.

301
00:22:58,810 --> 00:23:02,810
We've talked about a home ring
advantage, but think of the pressure

302
00:23:02,810 --> 00:23:07,690
among the 40 ,000 fans on hand, former
teammates at the University of Georgia,

303
00:23:07,710 --> 00:23:09,270
as well as the Atlanta Falcons.

304
00:23:09,570 --> 00:23:13,390
Will Goldberg be able to measure up to
that? It was the best night of my

305
00:23:13,390 --> 00:23:17,350
wrestling career, my athletic career, my
life.

306
00:23:18,250 --> 00:23:24,930
And, you know, I mean, it was an
extremely emotional night in a lot of

307
00:23:24,930 --> 00:23:25,930
respects.

308
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:33,060
I was nervous to the nth degree because
I had just gotten

309
00:23:33,060 --> 00:23:34,060
in the business.

310
00:23:57,290 --> 00:23:59,790
Goldberg has passed every test to date.

311
00:24:00,670 --> 00:24:05,410
106 consecutive straight A's for
Goldberg. And am I right? There has

312
00:24:05,410 --> 00:24:08,390
a world champion undefeated. You are
right.

313
00:24:14,010 --> 00:24:17,290
That was in pretty decent shape back
there.

314
00:24:33,990 --> 00:24:35,350
Hulk Hogan was a mentor.

315
00:24:35,710 --> 00:24:36,710
There's no question.

316
00:24:37,890 --> 00:24:42,710
So I walk into Hogan's locker room prior
to the match.

317
00:24:43,870 --> 00:24:47,610
And it's commonplace to go over, you
know, the dance.

318
00:24:48,550 --> 00:24:55,170
Well, I go in there and I look at Hogan
and he looks at me and he goes, don't

319
00:24:55,170 --> 00:24:56,490
worry, kid, we'll call it in the ring.

320
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,900
The thing that fans loved about Goldberg
is he was intense.

321
00:25:16,180 --> 00:25:19,780
And I'm here to tell you, it was intense
when you're in the ring with him.

322
00:25:21,740 --> 00:25:25,280
Technical wrestling and all that gaga
doesn't mean a thing if you're not

323
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,320
out every building you're in.

324
00:25:26,620 --> 00:25:31,660
It's the biggest crowd ever to see a
televised wrestling event on cable TV,

325
00:25:31,660 --> 00:25:32,660
you're a part of it.

326
00:25:32,860 --> 00:25:39,760
And it could be the night where Goldberg
walks away with the gold from arguably

327
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:40,780
the greatest champion.

328
00:25:42,510 --> 00:25:46,070
That's Hulk frickin' Hogan right there.
And he knows what he's doing more than

329
00:25:46,070 --> 00:25:47,070
anybody in the business.

330
00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:49,310
I ain't doing shit that he doesn't call.

331
00:25:49,990 --> 00:25:52,010
So he's in control of everything.

332
00:25:58,190 --> 00:25:58,670
If

333
00:25:58,670 --> 00:26:05,930
you're

334
00:26:05,930 --> 00:26:08,590
really good at what you do, you don't
need writers.

335
00:26:08,790 --> 00:26:09,950
You don't need to rehearse.

336
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,160
All you need to know is who's going to
win or lose.

337
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:18,500
It's about creating emotion, having
people cheer and hate you, and taking

338
00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:19,700
on that rollercoaster ride.

339
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,760
There's a complete arc from beginning,
middle, to end, and you're telling an

340
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,640
amazing story that everybody
understands.

341
00:26:32,420 --> 00:26:37,440
Despite the fact that this was the story
for Goldberg, Hogan had been here for

342
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,390
so long that it just seemed impossible
that, then he would lose.

343
00:26:45,890 --> 00:26:51,650
We needed another attraction.

344
00:26:52,210 --> 00:26:54,370
We needed another Hulk Hogan.

345
00:26:56,890 --> 00:27:01,210
What better way to beat Hulk Hogan than
beating Hulk Hogan right in the middle?

346
00:27:13,230 --> 00:27:14,230
is what we make.

347
00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:14,100
That was pretty cool.

348
00:28:25,700 --> 00:28:30,100
To have my friends, to have my family,
and to have, you know, fans that I've

349
00:28:30,100 --> 00:28:34,460
acquired in the short period of time of
me being in the business in, quote,

350
00:28:34,460 --> 00:28:37,280
unquote, my hometown at the time,
Atlanta.

351
00:28:38,060 --> 00:28:42,240
And then, oh, my God, to have my
teammates there. I mean, what a cool

352
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,240
was.

353
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,020
It was the coolest night of my wrestling
career.

354
00:28:50,660 --> 00:28:52,660
I remember it like it was yesterday.

355
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:59,000
The guys that I revered, the guys that I
looked up to, the guys that I idolized,

356
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,900
they wanted to be me that night.

357
00:29:15,630 --> 00:29:18,050
There's an old expression that I like to
use.

358
00:29:18,450 --> 00:29:19,790
What works, works.

359
00:29:20,330 --> 00:29:23,190
What doesn't, doesn't.

360
00:29:24,090 --> 00:29:30,190
Look at the footage of Goldberg spearing
Hulk Hogan in front of 40 ,000 plus

361
00:29:30,190 --> 00:29:31,530
people in the Georgia Dome.

362
00:29:31,930 --> 00:29:35,570
And then hitting the jackhammer and
pinning Hulk Hogan for the title.

363
00:29:36,650 --> 00:29:41,610
Did the audience rebel against it? Was
there a quasi -okay reaction?

364
00:29:42,460 --> 00:29:46,320
No, there were 40 ,000 people going out
of their minds.

365
00:29:47,100 --> 00:29:53,840
Why? Because Goldberg had hit. He had
become a major attraction, and the

366
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,600
audience loved him.

367
00:29:56,220 --> 00:29:59,060
I don't see what's so difficult about
that to understand.

368
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,280
Goldberg needed to rise to the top.

369
00:30:11,980 --> 00:30:13,180
Looks like a star.

370
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,720
Carries himself like a star.

371
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,380
Looks like a badass.

372
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,480
The audience thinks he's a badass.

373
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:25,480
You marry those two together, you have
an attraction in this industry.

374
00:30:28,340 --> 00:30:34,760
A lot of things go into making a
decision about who you're going to put

375
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:40,020
face of your company. And as the world
champion, you are the face of the

376
00:30:40,020 --> 00:30:41,020
company.

377
00:30:41,930 --> 00:30:45,610
Are you going to put somebody out there
that pisses themselves every time they

378
00:30:45,610 --> 00:30:48,450
have to do a live interview? Or are you
going to put somebody who's the face of

379
00:30:48,450 --> 00:30:54,810
your company that is telegenic,
charismatic, totally at ease with non

380
00:30:54,810 --> 00:30:58,570
media? And Bill Goldberg had all of
those attributes. Now, were your parents

381
00:30:58,570 --> 00:30:59,570
wrestlers?

382
00:31:02,410 --> 00:31:05,170
They were the famous Jewish tag team
from the Midwest.

383
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,020
When you're the champ, you're at least a
half inch taller.

384
00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:17,240
There's a reason why you have the belt
on you. There's a reason why you have

385
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,240
title around your waist.

386
00:31:20,940 --> 00:31:21,940
Ready to go?

387
00:31:22,180 --> 00:31:24,180
Don't get that cocaine in there. They
don't pay me.

388
00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:28,100
All right.

389
00:31:28,180 --> 00:31:29,340
We'll go for it. Okay, Bill?

390
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,360
Shoot. What is the deal?

391
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,660
I mean, what is the connection?

392
00:31:37,740 --> 00:31:39,560
with the young people in America today?

393
00:31:40,980 --> 00:31:45,580
You know, I like to think that we're
superheroes in a sense.

394
00:31:45,860 --> 00:31:48,580
We're like real -life comic book heroes.

395
00:31:50,420 --> 00:31:51,420
Nice shirt.

396
00:31:52,380 --> 00:31:53,380
Good to see you.

397
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:54,720
Bought you a picture.

398
00:31:56,060 --> 00:32:00,900
It gave me the opportunity to be the guy
that I was always planning to be in

399
00:32:00,900 --> 00:32:01,900
professional football.

400
00:32:06,090 --> 00:32:10,190
I couldn't wait to go out there and be
introduced and grab a kid and give him

401
00:32:10,190 --> 00:32:16,910
belt. I mean, I couldn't wait to do that
because I realized how big a moment

402
00:32:16,910 --> 00:32:19,250
that is to the person on the receiving
end.

403
00:32:19,470 --> 00:32:23,730
I looked up to professional football
players like, these kids do professional

404
00:32:23,730 --> 00:32:26,190
wrestlers. And I got that instantly.

405
00:32:26,610 --> 00:32:27,610
Ready?

406
00:32:33,580 --> 00:32:37,100
So you want to win this WCW t -shirt or
12 ,000 bucks?

407
00:32:37,620 --> 00:32:39,880
Well, you're going to have to take me
on.

408
00:32:40,660 --> 00:32:42,740
You, me, in the ring.

409
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:44,400
Let's go.

410
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:46,480
Yeah.

411
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:47,760
You're next.

412
00:32:47,980 --> 00:32:49,240
I'm going to ring your bell.

413
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:57,760
Bill showed up at the power plant,
punched in one morning, and 24 months

414
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,700
later, he's one of the biggest stars in
the world. You, me, in the ring.

415
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,080
Let's go.

416
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:04,920
You're next!

417
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,120
That's where it became the most
difficult.

418
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:13,720
Because at that point, Bill, as the
champion, now has to face

419
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:18,220
some of the other top stars in WCW.

420
00:33:18,500 --> 00:33:19,500
You're next!

421
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:26,500
Bill still doesn't have the skill set
that will enable him to go out there

422
00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:32,400
and have a match that will satisfy the
audience's expectations.

423
00:33:33,370 --> 00:33:35,470
of a World Heavyweight Champion at that
level.

424
00:33:36,510 --> 00:33:41,910
Meaning, he can't just go out there and
eat Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Roddy Piper,

425
00:33:42,070 --> 00:33:45,430
Ric Flair, eat them all, and then what?

426
00:33:47,210 --> 00:33:49,030
Oh, look at him with that belt!

427
00:33:50,270 --> 00:33:51,270
Perfect fit!

428
00:33:53,830 --> 00:33:55,670
It had started to turn a little bit.

429
00:33:58,530 --> 00:34:02,470
WCW had inflated his undefeated streak
along the way.

430
00:34:03,180 --> 00:34:07,320
He would mysteriously win 10 extra
matches between appearances, and the

431
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,319
got higher and higher.

432
00:34:09,820 --> 00:34:10,300
I

433
00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:18,080
have

434
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:23,659
a vivid memory of WCW cameras lingering
on a sign in the crowd by accident that

435
00:34:23,659 --> 00:34:24,960
said, this is getting Oldberg.

436
00:34:25,620 --> 00:34:29,239
When we were in the middle of the
streak, it was a really cool thing to be

437
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,239
part of.

438
00:34:31,969 --> 00:34:36,070
What people also have to understand is
that I didn't walk in there and go, hey,

439
00:34:36,170 --> 00:34:37,170
this is Goldberg.

440
00:34:37,650 --> 00:34:39,070
This is the way it's going to be.

441
00:34:39,650 --> 00:34:41,790
This is what's going to happen, and
we're going to have a streak.

442
00:34:45,389 --> 00:34:51,130
I showed up every week

443
00:34:51,130 --> 00:34:53,670
waiting for them to tell me what to do.

444
00:34:54,270 --> 00:34:58,590
It takes three, four, five, six, seven,
eight years to really develop.

445
00:34:59,190 --> 00:35:03,350
the level of skill set that you need to
be able to survive in a main event

446
00:35:03,350 --> 00:35:06,270
environment. Bill didn't have it. Who's
next?

447
00:35:06,590 --> 00:35:08,070
That's all I got to say.

448
00:35:08,310 --> 00:35:09,310
Who's next?

449
00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:15,490
So that was when the idea of Bill coming
out and just eating everybody alive in

450
00:35:15,490 --> 00:35:19,890
very short order became his trademark.

451
00:35:20,410 --> 00:35:23,290
As effective as it was, it does paint
you into a corner.

452
00:35:23,630 --> 00:35:25,130
I mean, there's a reason why.

453
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,980
Roth and Rachel didn't get together on
season one of Friends, right? Because

454
00:35:28,980 --> 00:35:32,880
that was the story that people kept
coming back for to find their resolution

455
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,120
What Goldberg had been giving us was
sort of like an artificial high. It was

456
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,120
like a sugar rush.

457
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,340
To really get behind somebody, you've
got to have the steak, you've got to

458
00:35:41,340 --> 00:35:43,240
the vegetables, you've got to have the
whole presentation.

459
00:35:44,020 --> 00:35:47,540
You've seen it enough times, it's not as
exciting as it used to be. So what are

460
00:35:47,540 --> 00:35:48,540
you going to do now?

461
00:35:48,670 --> 00:35:50,910
I'm Goldberg, and I fear no man.

462
00:35:51,250 --> 00:35:56,930
Goldberg, you can't survive my jackknife
powerbomb. Nash, get ready for the

463
00:35:56,930 --> 00:36:01,630
jackhammer. You can't survive my
jackknife powerbomb. I fear you, Nash.

464
00:36:02,950 --> 00:36:05,670
Let's get ready for the powerbomb!

465
00:36:09,250 --> 00:36:14,190
We talked about the anticipation level
for this matchup being so high. We don't

466
00:36:14,190 --> 00:36:16,190
have to anticipate anymore. It's here.

467
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,880
It stands at 173 -0.

468
00:36:24,260 --> 00:36:27,900
Was it the right time? Hell, it wasn't
the right time. It was on my frickin'

469
00:36:27,900 --> 00:36:30,580
birthday. Come on. Give me a break.

470
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,160
What is this?

471
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,900
What is he doing here?

472
00:36:38,140 --> 00:36:40,980
Was it the right time career -wise? I
don't know.

473
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,460
But I wasn't the right guy to ask that
question.

474
00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:47,180
I didn't have enough knowledge.

475
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:53,080
of the business around me. So I went
with what everybody thought.

476
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:58,140
And Bigelow, once again, uninvited. Not
supposed to be here.

477
00:36:58,340 --> 00:37:00,220
Send him to jail.

478
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:02,680
Meanwhile, it's a break.

479
00:37:04,300 --> 00:37:08,600
What was that? That's one of those
tasers the police use.

480
00:37:08,860 --> 00:37:10,080
It's like a stun gun.

481
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,080
It was my idea to use a real taser.
Absolutely.

482
00:37:14,750 --> 00:37:18,390
Because I wanted that one that would
shoot out of the gun and that would

483
00:37:18,390 --> 00:37:22,030
in you. And then they could light you up
like a Christmas tree. Because if

484
00:37:22,030 --> 00:37:24,330
Goldberg's going down, I want it to be
going down.

485
00:37:24,850 --> 00:37:26,390
And they wouldn't let me use it.

486
00:37:27,410 --> 00:37:28,410
Oh, no.

487
00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:29,550
Wait a minute.

488
00:37:30,590 --> 00:37:33,770
Oh, Jack Knight powerbombs. Look at this
fit.

489
00:37:34,770 --> 00:37:38,210
One, two, three. The streak is over.

490
00:37:38,470 --> 00:37:40,130
And we have a new world champion.

491
00:37:40,530 --> 00:37:41,650
The streak is over.

492
00:37:42,890 --> 00:37:43,890
173 -1.

493
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:48,060
And a new world champion, Kevin Nash is
crowned.

494
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,380
And basically what I'm going to be doing
is I'm going to be standing five feet

495
00:38:06,380 --> 00:38:11,080
away and I'm going to be trying to hit
this hole with each round.

496
00:38:12,170 --> 00:38:15,490
And every time it deviates, I try to
adjust.

497
00:38:16,170 --> 00:38:18,530
So you want to make the hole completely
disappear.

498
00:38:24,650 --> 00:38:27,990
We have witnessed professional wrestling
history.

499
00:38:29,290 --> 00:38:34,410
Kevin Nash will always go down as the
first man to stop the streak of

500
00:38:51,150 --> 00:38:55,470
After my first loss, I didn't really
know how to feel about the character.

501
00:38:55,770 --> 00:39:00,430
You've got a guy who's never lost
before, and now he loses for the first

502
00:39:01,130 --> 00:39:03,510
Sure, it presents a different dynamic.

503
00:39:03,970 --> 00:39:07,730
There's always a beginning and there's
always an end to anything that's good.

504
00:39:12,510 --> 00:39:14,350
The gun that Goldberg should have.

505
00:39:15,890 --> 00:39:18,950
There are a lot of ways that you can
make a loss add value to a character.

506
00:39:19,720 --> 00:39:23,200
The character they had presented of
Goldberg so far was so one -dimensional,

507
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,860
only context for Goldberg's existence
was the win streak.

508
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:35,560
The ideal of the Bill Goldberg story is
to get swept up in it.

509
00:39:37,900 --> 00:39:43,320
As soon as the shine comes off, you're
not swept up in it anymore, and you

510
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,020
asking all these questions, and you
start identifying all the blemishes.

511
00:39:50,670 --> 00:39:51,670
There we go.

512
00:39:51,770 --> 00:39:55,990
The same things that got him up there
are the reasons that we point at for

513
00:39:55,990 --> 00:39:57,390
everything that happened afterwards.

514
00:39:58,130 --> 00:40:02,690
Bret Hart, Goldberg, on December 19th at
Starcade, the two of you are going to

515
00:40:02,690 --> 00:40:06,350
be facing each other for the WCW
heavyweight title.

516
00:40:06,550 --> 00:40:10,050
However, tonight... Now we're in a
different world.

517
00:40:10,930 --> 00:40:15,510
Now we're in a world where you have to
tell a story and you have to work with

518
00:40:15,510 --> 00:40:16,930
people who are...

519
00:40:17,190 --> 00:40:21,290
at a very elevated position in the
company, and you can't go out there and

520
00:40:21,290 --> 00:40:25,970
them. The challenge that that presented
is being able to have a long enough

521
00:40:25,970 --> 00:40:32,050
match with enough layers from a
storytelling point of view that didn't

522
00:40:32,050 --> 00:40:35,050
Bill's lack of experience.

523
00:40:35,530 --> 00:40:37,530
Ladies and gentlemen, there he is!

524
00:40:38,350 --> 00:40:42,950
Bret the Hitman Hart has arrived to
Nitro!

525
00:40:43,250 --> 00:40:45,630
Bret Hart comes from a wrestling family.

526
00:40:46,970 --> 00:40:49,810
Literally born and bred to be a
professional wrestler.

527
00:40:50,390 --> 00:40:54,530
In that ring, I don't know that
anybody's ever done it better.

528
00:40:55,430 --> 00:41:00,010
He arguably was one of the best and is
still one of the best professional

529
00:41:00,010 --> 00:41:01,970
wrestlers ever in the history of the
business.

530
00:41:02,450 --> 00:41:06,410
I looked up to him exponentially when he
came down from WWE.

531
00:41:07,290 --> 00:41:13,210
I was honored to have him teach me
anything, even talk to me. I mean,

532
00:41:13,210 --> 00:41:14,210
Bret Hart.

533
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:15,640
Oh, shit.

534
00:41:16,580 --> 00:41:17,860
Bill never learned to wrestle.

535
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,160
That's the problem.

536
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,760
Bill was zero.

537
00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:23,720
Didn't have a clue.

538
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,120
He just seemed to think that I was a
practice dummy. He didn't understand. I

539
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,360
don't think anyone ever taught him that
wrestling is actually performance art.

540
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,340
Wrestling is all about trust, and it's
all about respect. Nobody said, hey, you

541
00:41:33,340 --> 00:41:37,140
can't really hurt these guys. You need
to go back to wrestling school and learn

542
00:41:37,140 --> 00:41:41,720
how to wrestle. But WCW, nobody ever
called out Bill for any of that stuff.

543
00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:42,720
one time, ever.

544
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:47,440
Wrestling is a dance.

545
00:41:48,620 --> 00:41:54,720
And the more senior person in that dance
is the one that ultimately has to make

546
00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:55,720
certain decisions.

547
00:41:57,620 --> 00:42:02,720
Guys who are as good as Bret in the
ring, part of their job every single day

548
00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:05,280
to make guys like Goldberg look good in
a match.

549
00:42:05,740 --> 00:42:07,660
Good wrestlers are tasked with this.

550
00:42:07,980 --> 00:42:09,140
Let me say one thing.

551
00:42:09,340 --> 00:42:10,980
I'm going to take any chance I get.

552
00:42:11,500 --> 00:42:14,440
become the world champion. If I've got
to go through Goldberg, and maybe I'll

553
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,380
suffer the consequences tonight, but I'm
going to show one thing, that I'm going

554
00:42:18,380 --> 00:42:21,820
to go in there, and I'm going to do my
best, and I'm going to give Bill

555
00:42:21,820 --> 00:42:24,360
a match that he's not going to forget.
He's going to know he's in for a fight.

556
00:42:24,940 --> 00:42:28,400
There's an old saying about guys like
Bret Hart, is that they can go out there

557
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,300
and have a match with a broom, and make
the broom look like a superstar.

558
00:42:33,340 --> 00:42:34,340
That was Bret Hart.

559
00:42:38,420 --> 00:42:39,980
That didn't happen that night.

560
00:42:42,390 --> 00:42:44,990
The match was all set and everything was
in order.

561
00:42:46,170 --> 00:42:48,870
And I remember I said, Bill, I said,
just remember one thing.

562
00:42:51,030 --> 00:42:52,030
Don't hurt me.

563
00:42:52,890 --> 00:42:55,610
I'm going to try to teach you. I'm going
to try to help you so much with your

564
00:42:55,610 --> 00:42:59,610
career. I'm going to teach you and help
you become the wrestler you really can

565
00:42:59,610 --> 00:43:00,610
be.

566
00:43:01,170 --> 00:43:02,170
Don't hurt me.

567
00:43:06,030 --> 00:43:08,250
He's going to soften up those legs for
that figure four.

568
00:43:08,940 --> 00:43:13,220
I had done the figure four spot on the
ropes with him, and I told him how

569
00:43:13,220 --> 00:43:16,500
important it was that when I put the
figure four on the post that he's got to

570
00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:17,399
grab my foot.

571
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:22,980
If he grabbed my foot just before I fell
back, I could do a sit -up and slowly

572
00:43:22,980 --> 00:43:24,280
lower myself to the ground.

573
00:43:24,820 --> 00:43:28,760
But if I just jump up and fall
backwards, I've got nothing to stop me.

574
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:29,760
dead weight.

575
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,740
Bill's pulling on my foot just like he's
supposed to.

576
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,520
I jump up, and as soon as I start to
fall, he lets go of my foot.

577
00:43:41,900 --> 00:43:44,980
really fuzzy, like the whole world
spinning.

578
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:53,620
I get in the ring after that with Bill,
and he calls for a kick, thrown with no

579
00:43:53,620 --> 00:43:55,740
sense about what it could do to me.

580
00:44:00,900 --> 00:44:05,280
I was concussed and totally, totally
messed up.

581
00:44:05,580 --> 00:44:07,120
I knew as soon as I hit the ground.

582
00:44:10,540 --> 00:44:16,440
I get up, and he mows me down like a car
driving me over in a parking lot.

583
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:25,380
For that man to think that I

584
00:44:25,380 --> 00:44:30,120
intentionally kicked him in the head, he
has no idea who I am.

585
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:35,360
What good would it have done if I would
have dropped him with that kick?

586
00:44:36,220 --> 00:44:37,940
Because I would have been on my own.

587
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:39,600
I would have had to run the match.

588
00:44:39,820 --> 00:44:41,520
I don't know what the hell I'm doing,
right?

589
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,140
Bill made contact.

590
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,580
Okay? It's on Bill.

591
00:44:49,540 --> 00:44:53,500
It's not like Bret Hart stepped into the
ring with Bill Goldberg thinking that

592
00:44:53,500 --> 00:44:57,960
Bill Goldberg was even close to a level
of Bret Hart.

593
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:05,360
Because Bret was such a master from a
technical perspective, he knew what he

594
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:06,660
getting into the ring with.

595
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,040
and has to take a certain responsibility
for what happened in the ring as a

596
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:16,560
result. So I understand the bitterness
and the angst, but there's a certain

597
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:21,140
amount of responsibility that both
participants in a match like that have.

598
00:45:33,260 --> 00:45:37,260
History has not been very kind to
Goldberg on the Bret Hart match.

599
00:45:38,220 --> 00:45:41,540
I think if that match had happened when
Goldberg was on the rise, I don't think

600
00:45:41,540 --> 00:45:43,500
he would have gotten the reaction that
he would have gotten.

601
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:48,440
It's really easy to say, Goldberg, for
all his good stuff, never learned how to

602
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:53,080
be a wrestler in the ring, and because
of that, A to B, it's his fault that

603
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:54,160
Hart's career is over.

604
00:45:55,420 --> 00:46:00,460
When I'm coming off the ropes, I trust
you, Bill Goldberg, to kick me properly

605
00:46:00,460 --> 00:46:01,460
and not hurt me.

606
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,620
And when you do it wrong...

607
00:46:03,980 --> 00:46:08,700
You cost me four years at $3 million a
year. My career was over.

608
00:46:09,660 --> 00:46:15,340
That intensity that you saw walk through
the curtain the first time that he did

609
00:46:15,340 --> 00:46:20,320
his very first dark match, or the night
that he beat Hulk Hogan in the Georgia

610
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:26,800
Dome, or any time that you've seen Bill
Goldberg since, that's real

611
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:27,800
with Bill.

612
00:46:30,190 --> 00:46:34,130
Every professional wrestler with some
level of success begins to believe that

613
00:46:34,130 --> 00:46:37,530
they're that superhero, right? I mean,
that's part of what makes you that great

614
00:46:37,530 --> 00:46:41,390
is the fact that you buy into your own
mythos.

615
00:46:41,830 --> 00:46:43,770
You have to get caught up in it.

616
00:46:44,170 --> 00:46:45,850
It has to be you.

617
00:46:46,250 --> 00:46:48,250
You have to blur that line.

618
00:46:50,290 --> 00:46:52,410
I put my hand through a limousine
window.

619
00:46:53,170 --> 00:46:57,830
I have to become...

620
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:04,720
a completely different human being to be
that guy that people pay their money

621
00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:05,720
for.

622
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:14,020
I have to go from choir boy to damn
Godzilla within a flip of a

623
00:47:14,020 --> 00:47:15,020
switch.

624
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,080
That's not easy. And it's taxing on a
human being.

625
00:47:36,980 --> 00:47:40,880
I came within a centimeter of hitting
that main artery.

626
00:48:03,660 --> 00:48:04,660
How'd it feel last night?

627
00:48:05,340 --> 00:48:10,200
Didn't feel real good, but I felt a lot
more comfortable with this bandage on it

628
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,620
now that you put on there. Looks like
the swelling went down some.

629
00:48:12,820 --> 00:48:13,820
Yeah.

630
00:48:24,540 --> 00:48:25,860
See if you had much drainage.

631
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:27,900
A little bit, I think.

632
00:48:36,110 --> 00:48:37,110
Let's see here.

633
00:48:37,770 --> 00:48:38,770
Hold it up.

634
00:48:41,070 --> 00:48:42,070
Not bad.

635
00:48:45,730 --> 00:48:52,530
You know, this is truly an unfortunate
moment for me right now because not

636
00:48:52,530 --> 00:48:56,650
only am I not able to wrestle in the
ring, but the only bells I'll be ringing

637
00:48:56,650 --> 00:49:01,090
lately and in the near future will be
the bell at the stock exchange. So

638
00:49:01,090 --> 00:49:03,950
everybody at the Nassau Coliseum, take
warning.

639
00:49:04,590 --> 00:49:11,590
When I get back, I ain't going to be
swinging a mallet. I'm going to

640
00:49:11,590 --> 00:49:13,790
be swinging this. So everybody take
heed.

641
00:49:22,990 --> 00:49:28,870
Internet pioneer American Online
announced today it is buying big,

642
00:49:28,870 --> 00:49:32,950
Time Warner, creating the world's
largest media conglomerate.

643
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:40,020
I remember when the Time Warner AOL
merger was announced, it was, oh, this

644
00:49:40,020 --> 00:49:41,020
going to be magnificent.

645
00:49:41,460 --> 00:49:44,020
This is going to be the greatest thing
that ever happened to this company.

646
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:50,380
About two months later, someone told me
they had a lot more experience in

647
00:49:50,380 --> 00:49:52,280
corporate mergers than I did. You've got
mail.

648
00:49:52,580 --> 00:49:53,620
I'm going to be like that.

649
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,440
It'll feel like that for about six
months or a year.

650
00:49:58,480 --> 00:49:59,480
And then eventually.

651
00:50:00,110 --> 00:50:05,110
One culture is going to eat the other
culture. Many of you may already know

652
00:50:05,110 --> 00:50:07,630
WCW has new owners.

653
00:50:08,450 --> 00:50:15,430
Nobody, no one other than Ted Turner
wanted WCW within the TBS

654
00:50:15,430 --> 00:50:16,650
return broadcasting platform.

655
00:50:17,830 --> 00:50:20,310
The writing was on the wall for WCW.

656
00:50:20,590 --> 00:50:26,670
I told you I'd talk to the man, and that
man is Eric Bischoff. So shut up and

657
00:50:26,670 --> 00:50:29,330
listen. I want to make an announcement
now.

658
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:35,240
That next Monday night at Panama City,
very well, could be the last night of

659
00:50:35,240 --> 00:50:37,680
wrestling on the Turner Networks.

660
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,800
When they were looking to sell it, they
weren't looking to give away the TV time

661
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,500
slot. And the TV time slot was like most
of the value of the company.

662
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,180
Vince McMahon was able to go in and just
say, I don't care about the TV. I just

663
00:50:52,180 --> 00:50:53,660
want to own it.

664
00:50:54,580 --> 00:50:55,580
Imagine that.

665
00:50:56,180 --> 00:50:57,180
Here I am.

666
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,400
On WCW television.

667
00:51:00,500 --> 00:51:01,860
How can that happen?

668
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,200
Well, there's only one way.

669
00:51:04,500 --> 00:51:11,420
You see, it was just a matter of time
before I, Vince McMahon, bought

670
00:51:11,420 --> 00:51:12,740
my competition.

671
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,040
That's right.

672
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,080
I own WCW.

673
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,040
In 2001, the decision is made to sell
WCW.

674
00:51:42,620 --> 00:51:44,640
WWE buys all the assets.

675
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:52,900
Goldberg's contract is so lucrative,
he'd be a fool to go to WWE for lesser

676
00:51:52,900 --> 00:51:56,800
money. So he sits it out, and he gets
paid to do nothing.

677
00:51:57,500 --> 00:51:58,080
My

678
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:04,860
contract

679
00:52:04,860 --> 00:52:07,300
was guaranteed.

680
00:52:08,010 --> 00:52:11,610
I could sit at home for two and a half
years and still be paid 100 % of my

681
00:52:11,610 --> 00:52:17,830
money. Whereas 90 % of the people that
went up to WWE were paid 50 cents on the

682
00:52:17,830 --> 00:52:18,830
dollar.

683
00:52:19,670 --> 00:52:22,490
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to
figure out why I stayed home.

684
00:52:26,270 --> 00:52:32,830
As far as the day after that two and a
half years was up, I had no clue what

685
00:52:32,830 --> 00:52:33,870
I was going to do.

686
00:52:41,990 --> 00:52:46,750
I was a pro football player.

687
00:52:47,150 --> 00:52:49,310
I wasn't a wrestling fan.

688
00:52:49,510 --> 00:52:52,270
I didn't grow up aspiring to be a
professional wrestler.

689
00:52:52,510 --> 00:52:54,130
I came to see Goldberg.

690
00:52:55,850 --> 00:53:01,770
I think the way that I express myself as
a professional wrestler is just an

691
00:53:01,770 --> 00:53:07,290
alternative form of the way that my
idols express themselves as professional

692
00:53:07,290 --> 00:53:08,290
football players.

693
00:53:09,370 --> 00:53:10,370
Hey there.

694
00:53:10,570 --> 00:53:12,570
Can you turn around and take a picture
with me?

695
00:53:13,070 --> 00:53:14,350
Come over here real quick.

696
00:53:15,270 --> 00:53:18,930
If I got the ability to wear a helmet
and shoulder pads and do what I did, I

697
00:53:18,930 --> 00:53:20,290
would have done it in two seconds.

698
00:53:21,010 --> 00:53:23,450
But unfortunately, that wasn't the
situation.

699
00:53:24,110 --> 00:53:28,950
I had to run around the ring in some
BBDs and a pair of leather boots.

700
00:53:31,010 --> 00:53:33,590
I think we both accomplished the same
thing.

701
00:53:34,410 --> 00:53:36,630
While one was doing it...

702
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:43,800
with something that they loved, I did it
to replace something

703
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:44,800
that I loved.

704
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,480
That's not really him.

705
00:53:50,060 --> 00:53:52,140
And that's definitely not really me.

706
00:53:53,720 --> 00:54:00,700
And prayed that it filled the void of
that said love activity

707
00:54:00,700 --> 00:54:02,100
that I couldn't do anymore.

708
00:54:04,940 --> 00:54:09,500
And again, this is not a slight against
the wrestling business or the fans.

709
00:54:09,720 --> 00:54:11,500
It's just true.

710
00:54:11,860 --> 00:54:13,240
I'm a football player.

711
00:54:15,940 --> 00:54:17,900
I really didn't know what I wanted.

712
00:54:21,180 --> 00:54:23,780
We start with a story of mystery.

713
00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:25,880
You've probably seen the promo.

714
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:27,740
Months of speculation.

715
00:54:28,180 --> 00:54:29,560
Two years in exile.

716
00:54:29,860 --> 00:54:33,580
The man everyone wants to see. And now
he's back.

717
00:54:34,310 --> 00:54:38,490
Goldberg. But why has he come to the
WWE, and why now?

718
00:54:46,670 --> 00:54:51,970
I felt as though I took so much from the
business in the beginning, and I didn't

719
00:54:51,970 --> 00:54:56,290
really understand the giving back part
as much as I should have.

720
00:54:56,930 --> 00:54:59,810
But I did fully understand it when I
left.

721
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:10,620
I was appreciative of seeing kids when I
was walking down the street going, when

722
00:55:10,620 --> 00:55:12,820
are you coming back to wrestling? When
are you coming back to wrestling? When

723
00:55:12,820 --> 00:55:14,920
are you coming back to wrestling? There
you go. Number one, brother.

724
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:19,380
I always feel like I owe the fans
something, and you should as a

725
00:55:26,260 --> 00:55:28,860
That is what it's all about, guys.

726
00:55:29,180 --> 00:55:30,840
The fans, they love it.

727
00:55:31,140 --> 00:55:33,260
They love what we do. They love what
they do.

728
00:55:33,690 --> 00:55:37,870
Part of my responsibility and part of
the reason for me coming back and giving

729
00:55:37,870 --> 00:55:41,210
WWE a try was I wanted to give them what
they wanted.

730
00:55:42,790 --> 00:55:48,550
I put my feelings to the side, and I'm
like, you know what? Let's just give it

731
00:55:48,550 --> 00:55:49,550
shot.

732
00:56:18,220 --> 00:56:20,760
Bill had a tough transition coming
there.

733
00:56:22,740 --> 00:56:24,420
There's only so many main event slots.

734
00:56:25,940 --> 00:56:27,840
He's trying to take somebody's job.

735
00:56:28,900 --> 00:56:32,600
So consequently, he wasn't the most
popular guy in the locker room.

736
00:56:34,260 --> 00:56:37,900
I've always felt like I was on the
outside looking in.

737
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:44,620
And because I think I looked at it as a
business venture, then a lot of people

738
00:56:44,620 --> 00:56:45,820
resented that.

739
00:56:46,140 --> 00:56:48,780
Oh, you don't have the love for it? Then
why are you here?

740
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,220
You better have more than that, punk
ass!

741
00:56:51,620 --> 00:56:53,280
You better have more than that!

742
00:56:53,780 --> 00:56:57,160
Strike me down because I looked at it as
a businessman and I was at an

743
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:01,120
accelerated age of my career to where I
had already been a professional at

744
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:02,120
something.

745
00:57:05,240 --> 00:57:09,600
These egos are something you have to
deal with.

746
00:57:10,700 --> 00:57:11,700
They're not seasonal.

747
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:13,780
It's not the wrestling business.

748
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,000
It's every day.

749
00:57:18,570 --> 00:57:20,930
I didn't see eye to eye with a lot of
the guys.

750
00:57:26,270 --> 00:57:28,230
I only had a one -year contract.

751
00:57:30,990 --> 00:57:33,450
I had no desire to sign again.

752
00:57:36,230 --> 00:57:38,690
I wanted to get the wrestling business
over with.

753
00:57:48,890 --> 00:57:52,090
the way that we watch professional
wrestling was the rise of the internet.

754
00:57:52,970 --> 00:57:57,030
At the very beginning of Goldberg's
career, you know, maybe if you had tried

755
00:57:57,030 --> 00:58:00,670
really hard, you could have found an AOL
chat room that had some reference to

756
00:58:00,670 --> 00:58:02,390
who was coming out of the power plant or
something.

757
00:58:02,630 --> 00:58:06,990
By the time that Goldberg and Brock
Lesnar faced off at WrestleMania 20, if

758
00:58:06,990 --> 00:58:11,510
were trying at all, you knew every rumor
about what was going on backstage.

759
00:58:15,500 --> 00:58:19,900
There was already public knowledge that
Goldberg was leaving and already public

760
00:58:19,900 --> 00:58:25,280
knowledge that a very dissatisfied Brock
Lesnar wanted out of his contract and

761
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:26,800
wanted to go pursue other ventures.

762
00:58:30,660 --> 00:58:35,540
Ladies and gentlemen, we are about ready
to set the stage for the Goldberg

763
00:58:35,540 --> 00:58:41,580
-Lesnar one -on -one matchup. Special
referee Stone Cold Steve Austin, this is

764
00:58:41,580 --> 00:58:44,340
going to be no doubt a smash mouth.

765
00:58:44,910 --> 00:58:50,470
High impact matchup. And these two men,
one representing Raw, one representing

766
00:58:50,470 --> 00:58:56,790
SmackDown. Goldberg versus Brock Lesnar
is a great idea on paper. When the fans

767
00:58:56,790 --> 00:59:01,590
know that both of them are leaving the
next day, that is like what failing at

768
00:59:01,590 --> 00:59:02,590
wrestling looks like.

769
00:59:05,750 --> 00:59:10,930
Everyone knew I was leaving. They also
knew that Brock was leaving.

770
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:21,200
And how dare us go on with our lives and
leave the fans.

771
00:59:22,020 --> 00:59:26,460
There's nothing fans hate more than
feeling like something's a foregone

772
00:59:26,460 --> 00:59:27,460
conclusion.

773
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:35,020
The audience was going to hijack the
match.

774
00:59:35,620 --> 00:59:40,040
And what was going to be most memorable
about the match, the negative reaction.

775
00:59:40,810 --> 00:59:43,450
that both Goldberg and Brock Lesnar
received from the audience.

776
00:59:43,650 --> 00:59:50,510
And to this day, the audience's desire
to be remembered that way is exactly

777
00:59:50,510 --> 00:59:51,810
how that match is remembered.

778
00:59:59,750 --> 01:00:06,590
It was

779
01:00:06,590 --> 01:00:12,900
hard to watch because, again, I at least
had... a hand in building the Bill

780
01:00:12,900 --> 01:00:19,880
Goldberg character and being a part of
the team that was there when Bill got

781
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:23,900
the best seat in the house on a rocket
ship ride to the moon.

782
01:00:47,020 --> 01:00:51,320
The fans rebelled in the garden that
night at WrestleMania 20 because they

783
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,560
thought they were being deserted.

784
01:00:55,100 --> 01:00:57,600
Two of their favorites were taking a
hike.

785
01:00:58,260 --> 01:01:01,020
Mom and Daddy are getting divorced, and
we're not going to be living with either

786
01:01:01,020 --> 01:01:02,020
one of them.

787
01:01:19,069 --> 01:01:20,590
It's the worst feeling in the world.

788
01:01:21,130 --> 01:01:24,570
No matter how hard you try, you got 20
,000 hecklers live.

789
01:01:26,350 --> 01:01:32,570
And no matter what you do, how hard you
work, no matter what sacrifices you

790
01:01:32,570 --> 01:01:34,630
make, they're going to teach you a
lesson.

791
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:09,400
when that match ended, WrestleMania 20,
I would have bet everything that I owned

792
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:13,720
or ever would own that we would never
see Bill Goldberg in the wrestling ring

793
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:18,020
again. I didn't think after WrestleMania
20 I'd ever step foot in the wrestling

794
01:02:18,020 --> 01:02:19,020
ring again.

795
01:02:42,410 --> 01:02:45,230
What's up, kid? No clue who I am. I've
been watching you since... I don't care

796
01:02:45,230 --> 01:02:49,150
who you are. You're a nice -looking kid
in a nice suit. You got great style.

797
01:02:49,510 --> 01:02:53,090
Why not come over to you? You ain't any
research for your role?

798
01:02:53,850 --> 01:02:54,850
Um, no.

799
01:02:54,990 --> 01:02:59,190
No research? No, man. I've played five
years in the NFL, and I've seen you on

800
01:02:59,190 --> 01:03:01,650
the chart about 10, 15 times, so no.

801
01:03:02,450 --> 01:03:09,450
Back in 2004, I was a stuntwoman in the
movie industry, and I get a call to do

802
01:03:09,450 --> 01:03:11,190
a movie in Edmonton, Alberta.

803
01:03:12,100 --> 01:03:13,100
No problem.

804
01:03:13,260 --> 01:03:15,300
Who's in the movie? They say Goldberg.

805
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:20,940
I don't know who Goldberg is. I somehow
hear Goldblum. So I'm like, oh, it might

806
01:03:20,940 --> 01:03:22,840
be kind of cool to work with Goldblum.

807
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:24,400
I'm like, okay, I'll do this then.

808
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:29,480
So I show up in Edmonton on the movie
set, and I'm in full wardrobe, and he's

809
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,500
full wardrobe. He's dressed as Santa
Claus, of all things. So he's got a big,

810
01:03:32,500 --> 01:03:35,580
fat stomach, big, long beard, long gray
hair, pulled back.

811
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:44,820
There is a Santa Claus.

812
01:03:50,180 --> 01:03:56,880
I love chubby guys. I love Santa

813
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:58,500
Claus. I'm like, well, he's cute.

814
01:03:58,840 --> 01:03:59,920
I don't think so.

815
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:05,500
So I have three rules in dating. I won't
date a stunt guy, a professional

816
01:04:05,500 --> 01:04:07,420
athlete, or an actor.

817
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:11,640
You see where I'm going with this,
right? Yeah.

818
01:04:13,450 --> 01:04:17,590
We meet. I'll leave out all the details.
It was basically love at first sight.

819
01:04:17,750 --> 01:04:20,990
And he asked me out for dinner. I
shocked myself and said yes.

820
01:04:21,430 --> 01:04:24,990
And we went out for dinner and three
months later we were engaged.

821
01:04:30,110 --> 01:04:36,670
Whatever I had done prior in my life, I
was rewarded

822
01:04:36,670 --> 01:04:38,110
by meeting her that night.

823
01:04:39,050 --> 01:04:40,810
It was the start of a new beginning.

824
01:04:47,810 --> 01:04:54,270
I knew right once I met her that if I
didn't ask her out and if I didn't

825
01:04:54,270 --> 01:04:57,470
eventually ask her to marry me, I would
regret it the rest of my life.

826
01:05:05,330 --> 01:05:09,690
When I met him, he was already
emotionally detached from wrestling.

827
01:05:10,990 --> 01:05:13,750
Three weeks after we met is when he
officially retired.

828
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:16,640
I had never seen him wrestle.

829
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,180
He really shut that part of his life
off.

830
01:05:21,660 --> 01:05:26,360
So everybody's wondering what we've done
for the last 12 years off TV.

831
01:05:27,380 --> 01:05:29,360
We're getting a little glimpse of him
right now.

832
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:33,160
We're living life, ladies and gentlemen,
as my goat eats my pants.

833
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,520
So I'm married to the legend.

834
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:43,480
And I hear stories, and I know he's a
big deal because when we go out in

835
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,340
everybody goes crazy.

836
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:49,000
Study hard, boys. You're very welcome.
My pleasure. Very nice to meet you guys.

837
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:53,880
And I'm like, wow, this guy's amazing,
right? This is incredible.

838
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,840
But I never, ever shared that world with
him.

839
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:03,080
Okay, don't be all goofy and everything
and try to throw the ball through me.

840
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:24,220
Has anyone found out at what age they
turn on you?

841
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,480
Anyone who's had children know that
children change your life.

842
01:06:27,900 --> 01:06:31,460
You can say they're not going to, they
just do.

843
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:37,520
And it's always for the better. You
know, we all have these little edges to

844
01:06:37,620 --> 01:06:41,820
and when you have a child, those edges
all soften, and the focus changes, and

845
01:06:41,820 --> 01:06:47,280
your world just becomes based on this
little human being and how you're going

846
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,640
mold and create them and make them this
awesome person.

847
01:06:53,900 --> 01:06:59,280
You put that baby in those big, muscly,
tattooed arms, and you watch a man turn

848
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:00,280
into a puddle?

849
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:02,100
I mean, it's magical.

850
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,980
I thought I was prepared for it, but I
wasn't.

851
01:07:07,740 --> 01:07:12,540
Changing diapers and feeding and being
up all... I'm not talking about that.

852
01:07:12,540 --> 01:07:18,040
talking about, like, everything
emotionally, and it's a different deal.

853
01:07:19,980 --> 01:07:22,720
I mean, it was a dream come true to have
my own kid.

854
01:07:23,180 --> 01:07:24,520
Swing all the way through it, bud.

855
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:25,760
Smash it.

856
01:07:26,340 --> 01:07:30,560
Possibly following my footsteps in some
way, shape, or fashion. You know, I

857
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:31,560
mean, that's pretty cool.

858
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:39,360
He started to think, I want to share all
of these memories and

859
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,200
these experiences with this child.

860
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:48,960
And in order to do that, I can't shut
out sections of my life.

861
01:07:49,260 --> 01:07:50,460
And so I think...

862
01:07:50,830 --> 01:07:55,170
In his own mind, he knew that the older
he got, the more the curiosity would

863
01:07:55,170 --> 01:07:56,170
build.

864
01:07:59,930 --> 01:08:06,550
He knew who I was when he could
understand what his name was, because

865
01:08:06,550 --> 01:08:10,450
we'd always go out, and why are all
these people coming up?

866
01:08:11,750 --> 01:08:15,230
So you have to explain it to him, and
then you have to show him a picture, and

867
01:08:15,230 --> 01:08:16,910
then he gets excited, and then you're
like, oh.

868
01:08:17,180 --> 01:08:20,660
I retired from the wrestling business. I
can't ever do this again for this kid.

869
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:22,040
And it's like, you know what?

870
01:08:22,279 --> 01:08:25,500
Just throw all this away. Let's just go
show. I'm going to show you.

871
01:08:26,140 --> 01:08:27,140
Right?

872
01:08:27,460 --> 01:08:29,359
And so you go to YouTube.

873
01:08:33,100 --> 01:08:34,700
Then he's like, that's not you.

874
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:36,279
I'm like, yeah, it really is.

875
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:44,979
Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Paul
Heyman.

876
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:51,580
Advocate for the Beast, Brock Lesnar!

877
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:59,200
We were living our quiet little life,
and then we start to hear these

878
01:08:59,960 --> 01:09:06,580
For 12 years, everyone in the WWE
universe keeps on asking the same

879
01:09:06,580 --> 01:09:12,620
question. What if, even if it's just for
one more night, we could all

880
01:09:12,620 --> 01:09:14,060
experience...

881
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:27,800
Both behind the scenes and in front of
the camera, an obvious opponent for

882
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:29,080
Lesnar would be Goldberg.

883
01:09:29,700 --> 01:09:31,840
Huge box office potential here.

884
01:09:32,319 --> 01:09:38,840
Because, as I said on television,
everyone, even Brock Lesnar, has that

885
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:40,540
but on their record.

886
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:44,040
Brock Lesnar is the baddest dude on the
planet.

887
01:09:46,260 --> 01:09:47,760
Yeah, but there's Goldberg.

888
01:09:47,979 --> 01:09:49,859
Everyone has a responsibility.

889
01:09:50,580 --> 01:09:52,060
Well, what do you think about coming
back?

890
01:09:52,460 --> 01:09:53,800
I'm like, you're kidding, right?

891
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:56,980
I don't want to come back.

892
01:09:58,460 --> 01:09:59,460
Goldberg!

893
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:05,780
You, sir, are hereby challenged to a
fight.

894
01:10:06,620 --> 01:10:10,360
Bill went through this real big
emotional rollercoaster about it. Kind

895
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,740
I left it behind. I don't want it to
come back in.

896
01:10:13,610 --> 01:10:17,950
I needed to come back in because I want
Gage to see, I want you to see being me.

897
01:10:26,030 --> 01:10:32,950
So then we talked about it, rationalized
it, and, you know, the rest is

898
01:10:32,950 --> 01:10:33,950
history.

899
01:10:42,090 --> 01:10:48,190
No one on the planet can understand what
I went through

900
01:10:48,190 --> 01:10:54,170
getting back into the business after
having such a long hiatus of being

901
01:10:54,170 --> 01:10:55,390
Goldberg.

902
01:10:57,990 --> 01:11:03,550
Being believable in that you can eat
just about any human being alive.

903
01:11:04,460 --> 01:11:08,640
is really difficult to do at 45 to 50
years old.

904
01:11:10,060 --> 01:11:16,880
When Bill has to transform into
Goldberg, it's a very serious thing for

905
01:11:17,020 --> 01:11:21,420
Yes, he's fit, and he's in incredible
condition, and he's got this amazing

906
01:11:21,420 --> 01:11:25,740
physique that he worked very, very hard
for. He's dedicated to that. But the

907
01:11:25,740 --> 01:11:30,360
cerebral part of that character, what he
puts himself through on a stress level

908
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,620
to prepare for these matches is, um...

909
01:11:33,870 --> 01:11:36,550
No one could even begin to understand.

910
01:11:39,130 --> 01:11:45,530
I wanted to walk away from the business
because everything it took to be that

911
01:11:45,530 --> 01:11:50,470
guy week after week after week was
stressful on me.

912
01:11:52,250 --> 01:11:54,290
It just takes a lot of energy.

913
01:11:55,070 --> 01:12:00,610
Sporadic bursts of fanaticism from zero
to a hundred back to zero again.

914
01:12:01,310 --> 01:12:03,130
I'm like, honey, you gotta like.

915
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,380
Take it down a notch, right? But he
can't. It's just tough.

916
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:07,720
It's stressful.

917
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:12,600
He only knows how to do it one way, and
that's 110 % every single time.

918
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:20,820
When I was in the best shape of my life,
I was not in very good shape in my

919
01:12:20,820 --> 01:12:21,820
eyes.

920
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:26,400
So imagine what putting yourself through
trying to get in shape against.

921
01:12:27,590 --> 01:12:31,730
performing in front of all these people
who haven't seen you in a long time, and

922
01:12:31,730 --> 01:12:38,670
the only time they saw you was this fire
-breathing dragon, trying to make it

923
01:12:38,670 --> 01:12:42,310
to the point where you impress your kid
after you've hyped yourself up.

924
01:12:44,390 --> 01:12:48,950
And then, most importantly, being able
to live with yourself when you look in

925
01:12:48,950 --> 01:12:52,830
the mirror and go, really, you're going
to do this? You're going to look like a

926
01:12:52,830 --> 01:12:53,830
fool.

927
01:12:55,430 --> 01:12:56,870
And that weighs a lot.

928
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:58,480
That weighs heavy on you.

929
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:18,320
Okay, ladies and gentlemen, the
Goldbergs just arrived in Denver.

930
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:24,580
Honey, your first trip in the world of
professional wrestling, what do you

931
01:13:24,580 --> 01:13:27,040
think? Two thumbs up so far.

932
01:13:28,060 --> 01:13:29,060
Gage?

933
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:30,240
Yay!

934
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:35,540
Okay. Oh, Goldberg came back so that his
son could see him in the ring.

935
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:41,060
Goldberg came back so that his son could
experience Goldberg.

936
01:13:41,740 --> 01:13:45,900
It's not the fame to see it on YouTube.
It's not the experience. It's, oh, yeah,

937
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:47,560
there's my dad when he was younger.

938
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:51,000
And look at everybody chanting his name.
But when you're in an arena full of

939
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,380
people and they passionately, intensely.

940
01:13:59,980 --> 01:14:01,060
You send her home.

941
01:14:32,970 --> 01:14:34,210
It's been a long time.

942
01:14:34,790 --> 01:14:35,910
And he didn't forget.

943
01:14:49,210 --> 01:14:51,270
Twelve years, ladies and gentlemen.

944
01:14:56,190 --> 01:14:57,690
You never say never, eh?

945
01:14:58,350 --> 01:15:01,570
Never thought I'd be in this ring again.

946
01:15:04,170 --> 01:15:07,130
So thank you for the humble return.

947
01:15:11,410 --> 01:15:18,410
What makes it so special is

948
01:15:18,410 --> 01:15:24,670
that my wife and my son are here to see
me live for the first time ever.

949
01:15:33,130 --> 01:15:34,950
As I said, it's been 12 years.

950
01:15:36,270 --> 01:15:38,470
There's a lot of things I miss in this
business.

951
01:15:38,690 --> 01:15:45,210
The biggest thing that I miss, other
than kicking ass, is

952
01:15:45,210 --> 01:15:49,450
being a superhero for the kids all
around the world.

953
01:16:03,180 --> 01:16:04,780
Lesnar challenged me to a fight.

954
01:16:07,540 --> 01:16:09,760
But he didn't have the balls to do it
himself.

955
01:16:12,860 --> 01:16:16,920
He made Paul Heyman his fat little
studes do it for him.

956
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:26,420
So, Brock Lesnar.

957
01:16:41,530 --> 01:16:44,550
Please, Brock Lesnar, you're last!

958
01:16:49,070 --> 01:16:51,990
You're thinking, okay, this is going to
be a pretty cool experience. Going back

959
01:16:51,990 --> 01:16:52,990
to wrestling.

960
01:16:53,350 --> 01:16:54,910
I've been married to him for 12 years.

961
01:16:55,250 --> 01:16:59,130
I've never seen this happen. I've never
been in a room where everybody's doing

962
01:16:59,130 --> 01:16:59,969
the chant.

963
01:16:59,970 --> 01:17:04,090
And it's my husband they're chanting
for. It's my son's father they're

964
01:17:04,090 --> 01:17:05,090
for.

965
01:17:05,670 --> 01:17:08,390
It'll be fine. It'll be fine. You know,
no big deal.

966
01:17:14,250 --> 01:17:15,550
A surreal moment.

967
01:17:15,910 --> 01:17:19,790
Goldberg heading to the ring for the
first time in 12 years.

968
01:17:23,250 --> 01:17:24,690
You can't breathe.

969
01:17:25,110 --> 01:17:31,770
Like you just can't emotionally
encompass the feeling of standing there

970
01:17:31,770 --> 01:17:32,629
hearing this.

971
01:17:32,630 --> 01:17:35,030
Two titans about to clash.

972
01:17:47,700 --> 01:17:51,020
When I came back, I was actually trying
to have a good time.

973
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:55,020
Whereas before, I hadn't even considered
having a good time.

974
01:18:13,070 --> 01:18:17,370
To see him really live in action, like I
knew he was amazing, but this is

975
01:18:17,370 --> 01:18:22,550
like... I don't think anybody expected
this sort of dominance right out of the

976
01:18:22,550 --> 01:18:23,930
gate from Goldberg.

977
01:18:24,150 --> 01:18:27,330
The beast is beyond the verge of getting
slayed.

978
01:18:28,670 --> 01:18:29,670
Goldberg again.

979
01:18:30,390 --> 01:18:33,630
He's got less than a bit of a rank.
Goldberg's looking for a jackhammer.

980
01:18:33,630 --> 01:18:34,630
looking for a jackhammer!

981
01:19:05,550 --> 01:19:10,010
I look over and Gage is tearing his
shirt off.

982
01:19:10,970 --> 01:19:16,130
He tears his shirt off. And I'm like,
oh, okay, we're just going to roll with

983
01:19:16,130 --> 01:19:19,990
it. And so he completely tears his shirt
off and then Bill comes and grabs him

984
01:19:19,990 --> 01:19:20,990
and takes him.

985
01:19:24,350 --> 01:19:28,850
You see Goldberg bringing his son Gage
into the ring to celebrate.

986
01:19:31,150 --> 01:19:33,490
Now what a moment for Goldberg and his
family.

987
01:19:38,250 --> 01:19:41,450
There's Goldberg's muse, his
inspiration, his son.

988
01:19:45,670 --> 01:19:50,950
And you can just see Gage couldn't be
prouder. This is his dad.

989
01:19:51,230 --> 01:19:54,510
Bill couldn't be prouder. This is his
son. And he's back.

990
01:20:39,690 --> 01:20:41,830
I tried to tell you about my wrestling
experience.

991
01:20:42,670 --> 01:20:43,770
You just lived it.

992
01:20:44,090 --> 01:20:45,990
Oh, my God. How was it?

993
01:20:46,250 --> 01:20:47,250
It was unbelievable.

994
01:20:47,870 --> 01:20:50,470
Other than that goofy name, it won't be
on there anymore.

995
01:20:50,730 --> 01:20:51,730
It's heavy.

996
01:20:51,810 --> 01:20:53,130
That's what a reel looks like.

997
01:20:55,210 --> 01:20:56,210
So did you have fun?

998
01:20:56,430 --> 01:20:57,750
Yeah. Sure.

999
01:21:00,050 --> 01:21:02,310
That was so awesome. Oh, my God.

1000
01:21:03,810 --> 01:21:04,810
Oh.

1001
01:21:07,230 --> 01:21:08,230
You're a big boy.

1002
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:12,780
13 years and 4 months since your daddy
has had a title.

1003
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:15,260
I wear belts all the time.

1004
01:21:15,780 --> 01:21:16,780
That's different.

1005
01:21:17,500 --> 01:21:22,800
All I know is y 'all are the reason why
I did it.

1006
01:21:51,879 --> 01:21:56,740
Well, reminiscent of my matches, ladies
and gentlemen, do not worry. This will

1007
01:21:56,740 --> 01:21:57,740
be short.

1008
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:09,600
I owe thanks to so many people. I truly
don't believe that there was ever

1009
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:14,380
a character that depended upon so many
moving parts for its success.

1010
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:19,280
He breathes smoke and fire.

1011
01:22:20,810 --> 01:22:24,890
I don't know another way to say it.
Intensity is going to be Bill's legacy.

1012
01:22:28,310 --> 01:22:32,290
Goldberg's legacy was the feeling that
you got when the music started playing.

1013
01:22:32,950 --> 01:22:37,770
That was Goldberg's legacy. It was that
feeling of anticipation and excitement.

1014
01:22:38,030 --> 01:22:39,790
That is Bill Goldberg.

1015
01:22:40,350 --> 01:22:46,330
His intensity, his power, and the
emotion that he brought to an arena,

1016
01:22:46,510 --> 01:22:49,170
it'll be hard to take that away from
him.

1017
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:56,680
I don't think Goldberg fits any cookie
cutter vision of what a hero in

1018
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:57,680
is supposed to be.

1019
01:22:58,060 --> 01:23:00,200
I think Goldberg's a very unique
character.

1020
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:02,240
I think he's a very unique persona.

1021
01:23:02,580 --> 01:23:04,100
I think he's a very unique man.

1022
01:23:05,420 --> 01:23:10,860
Wanda, me erasing my wrestling demons

1023
01:23:10,860 --> 01:23:17,720
and finding my peace in the business was
your only goal for my comeback.

1024
01:23:18,620 --> 01:23:21,800
I can safely say, as I steal a quote
from you,

1025
01:23:22,620 --> 01:23:23,760
It's all good, baby.

1026
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:31,380
Yes, I know it's hard on him. Yes, I
know he ages every single time he does a

1027
01:23:31,380 --> 01:23:34,800
match. But will I say don't do it?
Never.

1028
01:23:35,260 --> 01:23:36,500
I married Goldberg.

1029
01:23:37,780 --> 01:23:41,780
I worked my ass off because I wanted it
again.

1030
01:23:42,580 --> 01:23:44,260
It meant something to me.

1031
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:46,500
It wasn't just a job.

1032
01:23:47,700 --> 01:23:49,100
I love you people.

1033
01:23:49,420 --> 01:23:51,460
I love being that guy for you.

1034
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:58,680
He could make you believe that he's
Goldberg and that there's not a human on

1035
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:00,800
face of the planet that can stand up to
him.

1036
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:06,660
Goldberg might be like the last
superhero in pro wrestling.

1037
01:24:11,100 --> 01:24:12,580
Wrestling brings us all together.

1038
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:14,480
Never really thought it would.

1039
01:24:16,060 --> 01:24:18,260
I always wanted to follow a football
dream.

1040
01:24:22,220 --> 01:24:28,460
My inability to pursue the dream of
myself opened the door to my opportunity

1041
01:24:28,460 --> 01:24:30,460
being a superhero for others.

1042
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:39,560
My dream was of being a member of the

1043
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:45,460
NFL Hall of Fame could not have gotten
me nearly as far in being the superhero

1044
01:24:45,460 --> 01:24:50,740
for kids as being inducted into the WWE
Hall of Fame. And I realized...

1045
01:24:53,260 --> 01:24:57,500
More so than ever before, this is where
I belong.

1046
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:11,040
This has been one hell of a journey,
which leads me to my one final question.

1047
01:25:13,480 --> 01:25:14,780
Who's next?

1048
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:18,740
Thank you very much.

