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The unknown subject
we're looking for

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is a male, most likely
in his 20s,

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based on
the two victims so far.

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But before we go
any further,

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we need to be clear.

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Age is the most difficult
variable to predict.

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He could be in his 40s.

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A very fit 40s.

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So our point is,

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the profile
is a guide only.

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It's an
investigative tool,

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and we need
to stress that.

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All we have is
a series of deductions,

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but one
of those deductions

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is that the unsub knew
his victims personally.

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Which is why we're
delivering the profile
to you,

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because you also knew
the victims.

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So, our goal is not to
make you uncomfortable

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or suspicious.
Normally we wouldn't

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even give the profile
this early,

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but you are our best chance

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at discovering
the identity of--

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Yes?

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I have a question
for agent Rossi.

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Go ahead.

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Why did your last book...

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Suck so bad?

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[laughter]

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Uh...well, we're not
gonna talk about that now.

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Really? that's all
I want to talk about.

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I mean, you even consider
that Tommy Yates was a patsy?

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Look, we get it, OK?

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You have no reason
to trust us.

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We're the FBI,
and you are
the official community

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of the Roswell,
new Mexico, truthers.

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Thanks for not calling us
conspiracy theorists.

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Well, we know you
don't like that term.

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While we don't agree
with your opinions,
a lot of people do.

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Like how September 11th
was an inside job,

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or how vapor trails
from jets are poisonous,

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or how lizard people
are secretly running
the government.

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Ah-ah-ah! confirmation
from the FBI.

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You all heard it.

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No, no, see
that's specifically
not what I was...

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OK. We need your help

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to stop a killer who
is hiding in this group.

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That's why we are having
this here in this legion hall

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and not
at the police station.

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We don't want you
to feel surveilled--

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What did you put
in my pocket?!

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Gun! drop it!

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[shouting, screaming]

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Drop it!

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Prentiss: All right,
everybody calm down.

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What's your name?

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I'm Emily.

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Emily Prentiss.
It says right here.

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The reason I'm asking
is so we can have
a conversation.

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[breathing hard] Doug.

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I'm Doug.

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Great, Doug. Let's just
take a second.

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Let's think through
the logic of this.

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I--I didn't do
any of this!

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We're not saying you did,

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but you are making
things worse with that gun.

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The reason
we asked you here,

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the only reason,
is to listen. That's all.

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OK? so just listen.

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Listen. Put the gun down.

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I know a false flag
when I see one.

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You bitch!
No!

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[gunshot]

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Captioning made possible by
ABC studios, LLC and CBS, Inc.

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Garcia: "once you eliminate
the impossible,

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"whatever remains,
no matter how improbable,

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must be the truth."

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Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.

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[door opens]

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Can I go home now?

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No. We're holding
you and your friends
for 24 hours.

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You're all
persons of interest

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in a murder
investigation.

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Murder? what,
Doug killed himself.

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True. But there are
still two other victims
to account for.

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Now, normally when
there's a public suicide,

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it's because the suspect
is the serial killer

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and he's killed himself
out of guilt.

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But we can't
prove that yet,

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so, our investigation
is still open.

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He said this whole thing
was a false flag,

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which means he thought
you were trying to frame him.

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I know what a false flag is.

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The FBI doesn't frame people.

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What, not anymore?

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You know,
all of your friends
have lawyered up.

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Called us Nazis,
or both.

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But you haven't.

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So?

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So that tells me
you want to get

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to the bottom of this
just as much as we do.

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Do you know
what a podcast is?

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I do.

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Well, I have one.

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So if we're actually
gonna do this,

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you give me back my phone

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and I record
our conversation

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for my podcast,
'cause I'm not talking to you

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without documenting
everything.

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You want this
on the record?

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Of course.
I want this on the record.

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Otherwise I'm lawyering up
with all my friends.

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So what do you say?

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Prentiss: The answer's no.

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I think we should
consider it.

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No. She will control
the audio.

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She can twist your words,

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edit them to make
the bureau look bad.

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We already look bad.

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The brass is gonna
want to know

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how and why Doug killed
himself in front of us.

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Yeah, and that's my ass,

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but I'm not making
this situation worse

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than it already is.

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Garcia, have we confirmed
that this truther's even legit?

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Garcia: Of course I've
confirmed that, and she is.

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Melissa miller has a pretty
popular truther podcast,

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especially around Roswell.

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She promotes all kinds
of conspiracies,

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but her cause celebre
is staged shootings.

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So she thinks the reason
we have gun violence,

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it's been faked
by the government

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as a pretext to revoke
the second amendment.
Nice.

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It's another reason
not to do this.

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Or it's the exact reason
to do this.

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What was tonight, other
than a staged shooting,

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and why is she the only
one willing to cooperate?

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Unsubs like
to insert themselves

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into the investigation.

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Profile skews male,
but she could be a partner.

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OK, then,
if she isn't involved,

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I can get her to talk.

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I'm a forensic psychologist.

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I'm trained to outwit
and outsmart

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clinical psychopaths far
more dangerous than her.

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But if we're wrong, she's
going to post her podcast.

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Then what? then we're
the next example of fake news.

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Look, everybody,
give us a second.

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You, too, Garcia.

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We don't just have
egg on our face,

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we have blood
on our hands.

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It's not like these
conspiracy theorists

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are gonna be quiet.

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I am aware of that.
I need options.

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We're out of them.

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The profile says
it's a truther,

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and only one of them
is talking to us.

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We have to throw
a Hail Mary.

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[cell phone dings]

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Say something.
We need to make sure

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the levels are good.

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I'm Dr. Tara Lewis
of the BAU--

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No. Say something
interesting.

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Tell me how you really
feel about truthers.

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My audience
could use a sense

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of the FBI's bias
against us.

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I got my PHD.
By taking a theory,

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testing it, and then
proving my results.

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Now, proving my results means
that I take those results

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and I turn them over
to other scientists

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to see if they can
replicate them.

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And if they can't,
then my theory was wrong.

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See, that's science.
A consensus of evidence

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that we call truth.

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What you do is different.

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Oh, no, it's not.

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Yes, it is.

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Because your theories
are unprovable.

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Give me one.

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Uh, president Obama
wasn't born here.

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He was born in Kenya.

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Perfect. That's perfect.

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So, I show you his long-form
birth certificate,

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and then you would respond
that it's been faked

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because that's how deep
the conspiracy goes.

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And then that becomes
your argument

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against any evidence
that I provide.

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It's a cognitive trick
that keeps you

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from having to admit
that life is messy.

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It's random.
Not everything fits

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the easy explanation
that a conspiracy gives you.

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All right, then.
Well, let's talk
about the murders.

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When did you first
hear about them?

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Yesterday.
When we were invited in.

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Garcia: It's time to get
out our tinfoil hats,
my fine furry friends,

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because we are on our way
to Roswell, new Mexico,

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aka, ground zero
of conspiracy theorists

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because of a certain
alien crash--
I mean weather balloon.

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The sheriff there
has had two
suspicious deaths

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over the last 48 hours.

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Both victims were members
of the truther movement.

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Yes, which is a group
of conspiracy theorists

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who share their out-there
beliefs online with each other.

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No judgment here. Let's look
at our first victim Bryan Behar.

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He believed that the fluoride
they put in our drinking water

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is a mind-control agent
meant to keep us docile.

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He died by drowning.

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People drown
all the time, you say.

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I say not in
their own aquariums.

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So the MO matches
his conspiracy.

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Is that a coincidence
or a choice?

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That depends on
victim number two.

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Uh-huh. That's Carl lee.

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He's a JFK conspiracy nut

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who was shot once
in the throat.

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As anyone who saw
the Zapruder film knows,

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that's where the first
bullet struck Kennedy.

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Carl lee we can definitively
classify as a homicide,

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but the drowning death--that
could have another explanation.

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That's why
we'll be treating this

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as an equivocal
death investigation.

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Wheels up in 20.

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Back up. What was
that term you used?

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Equivocal something?

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An equivocal death
investigation.

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It's an investigation
where we consider all options.

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It could be a murder,
but it could also be a suicide

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or an accident
or even natural causes.

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Are you saying these
murders weren't murder?

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Is that the FBI's
official position?

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I'm saying we let clues
guide us to a deduction.

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We don't jump to conclusions.

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But as we were flying here,

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our technical analyst
uncovered something unusual.

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Right.
Your technical analyst.

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That would be
Penelope Garcia?

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Yeah. I looked up
your whole team
before coming in here.

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Why did you do that?

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Because I'm a naturally
suspicious person

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who wanted to get
a feel for your methods.

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Specifically the illegal
surveillance that the FBI

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is willing to resort to
to frame innocent men
and women.

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As I said, the FBI
doesn't frame anyone,

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and we certainly don't
do anything illegal.

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Well, I guess that depends
on what Garcia found

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and how she found it.

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So what did she find?

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Garcia: It looks like
our two victims

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were talking via
encrypted texts.

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It took a while to break,

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and their conversation
was short,

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but its content

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made my perfectly shaped
eyebrows go, "hmm?"

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00:10:20,387 --> 00:10:22,022
Carl says to Bryan,
"I think I'm close

254
00:10:22,055 --> 00:10:23,290
to finding out
who it is."

255
00:10:23,323 --> 00:10:24,725
To which Bryan says,

256
00:10:24,758 --> 00:10:25,959
"maybe we should
go to the police."

257
00:10:25,993 --> 00:10:27,995
And Carl says,
"what good would that do?"

258
00:10:28,028 --> 00:10:29,196
Well, that could be motive.

259
00:10:29,229 --> 00:10:30,430
Whatever Carl
was close to finding

260
00:10:30,463 --> 00:10:31,899
could have killed him
and Bryan.

261
00:10:31,932 --> 00:10:33,300
At first glance, yeah.

262
00:10:33,333 --> 00:10:35,368
But we're talking about
conspiracy theorists here,

263
00:10:35,402 --> 00:10:38,305
and a lot of them suffer
from association fallacy.

264
00:10:38,338 --> 00:10:40,273
Let's say you thought
Lyndon Johnson

265
00:10:40,307 --> 00:10:43,376
had JFK killed in order
to escalate the war in Vietnam.

266
00:10:43,410 --> 00:10:45,145
OK, stop right there.

267
00:10:45,178 --> 00:10:46,413
What?

268
00:10:46,446 --> 00:10:48,381
You guys have a jet?

269
00:10:48,415 --> 00:10:49,416
Yes.

270
00:10:49,449 --> 00:10:50,951
A jet.

271
00:10:50,984 --> 00:10:52,953
Yes.

272
00:10:52,986 --> 00:10:54,722
Black helicopters

273
00:10:54,755 --> 00:10:56,056
surveilling
the American people.

274
00:10:56,089 --> 00:10:57,357
No, no, that's ridiculous.

275
00:10:57,390 --> 00:10:59,793
But a little branch
of the FBI

276
00:10:59,827 --> 00:11:01,795
has its own private jet.

277
00:11:01,829 --> 00:11:04,698
OK, one, I never said
the FBI doesn't

278
00:11:04,732 --> 00:11:05,933
have black helicopters.

279
00:11:05,966 --> 00:11:08,468
And, two, when people
are being murdered,

280
00:11:08,501 --> 00:11:09,770
we have to respond
quickly.

281
00:11:09,803 --> 00:11:12,773
[scoffs] a jet.

282
00:11:12,806 --> 00:11:14,341
I can't even.

283
00:11:14,374 --> 00:11:16,243
Sorry.
Where were we?

284
00:11:16,276 --> 00:11:18,211
Let's say you thought
Lyndon Johnson

285
00:11:18,245 --> 00:11:21,782
had JFK killed
in order to escalate
the war in Vietnam.

286
00:11:21,815 --> 00:11:23,717
That's ridiculous.
Everybody knows that--

287
00:11:23,751 --> 00:11:24,785
Prentiss: No, no.

288
00:11:24,818 --> 00:11:26,920
We're not getting
into that again.

289
00:11:26,954 --> 00:11:28,688
Go ahead, Luke.

290
00:11:30,157 --> 00:11:33,160
Uh, my point is,
that if you thought

291
00:11:33,193 --> 00:11:35,028
the government
could do that,

292
00:11:35,062 --> 00:11:36,229
then you were likely
believe that they'd

293
00:11:36,263 --> 00:11:37,931
brought down
the towers on 9-11.

294
00:11:37,965 --> 00:11:39,833
Pretty soon you're
down that rabbit hole

295
00:11:39,867 --> 00:11:41,869
and you see
everything as a plot.

296
00:11:41,902 --> 00:11:43,837
So maybe these guys
weren't into anything.

297
00:11:43,871 --> 00:11:46,907
Maybe they just
talked themselves
into a group delusion.

298
00:11:46,940 --> 00:11:48,976
OK, we should investigate
that when we land.

299
00:11:49,009 --> 00:11:51,111
And since the police
are mentioned so prominently

300
00:11:51,144 --> 00:11:52,946
on the text,
they might know

301
00:11:52,980 --> 00:11:54,147
what the victims
were looking into.

302
00:11:54,181 --> 00:11:57,985
The Chicago mob, right?
Killed JFK.

303
00:11:58,018 --> 00:11:59,853
He gets it.

304
00:11:59,887 --> 00:12:01,822
No. Don't get him
started, Matt.

305
00:12:01,855 --> 00:12:05,058
Next, he'll be showing
you YouTube clips.

306
00:12:06,193 --> 00:12:07,828
So I'm sure
when you flew in,

307
00:12:07,861 --> 00:12:09,863
they showed you Carl
and Bryan's police record.

308
00:12:09,897 --> 00:12:13,000
They did. And what we saw
were 4 years of reports

309
00:12:13,033 --> 00:12:14,968
that both men were convinced
someone was watching them.

310
00:12:15,002 --> 00:12:17,004
But despite his best efforts,
sheriff bowman

311
00:12:17,037 --> 00:12:18,939
was never able to find
any evidence of stalking.

312
00:12:18,972 --> 00:12:21,274
Oh, yeah. 'cause
he tried really hard.

313
00:12:21,308 --> 00:12:22,910
You know what was
much more interesting

314
00:12:22,943 --> 00:12:26,880
was what we found when
we walked the crime scenes.

315
00:12:26,914 --> 00:12:29,850
The glass is 3/4 of an inch
thick and that's sturdy.

316
00:12:29,883 --> 00:12:31,952
If you wanted to drown
someone in an aquarium,

317
00:12:31,985 --> 00:12:33,453
that would do the trick.

318
00:12:33,486 --> 00:12:35,923
They said there was
a bleach solution
in the water,

319
00:12:35,956 --> 00:12:37,124
so he was probably
cleaning it

320
00:12:37,157 --> 00:12:38,391
and his ear buds were in.

321
00:12:38,425 --> 00:12:41,028
Make it easy
to sneak up on Bryan.

322
00:12:41,061 --> 00:12:44,865
Unsub wouldn't have
had to work too hard.

323
00:12:44,898 --> 00:12:46,566
Bryan was startled.

324
00:12:46,599 --> 00:12:48,836
He took in water
and bleach,

325
00:12:48,869 --> 00:12:52,172
and he was asphyxiated
before he knew
what was happening.

326
00:12:52,205 --> 00:12:54,975
How did the unsub
get in here?

327
00:12:55,008 --> 00:12:57,344
Hey, Matt,
a question for you.

328
00:12:57,377 --> 00:12:59,312
Any evidence of a break-in
at your crime scene?

329
00:12:59,346 --> 00:13:01,114
Hang on, JJ.
Let me check.

330
00:13:01,148 --> 00:13:02,482
Any signs
of forced entry?

331
00:13:02,515 --> 00:13:03,984
No, sir.

332
00:13:04,017 --> 00:13:05,919
No, none here either.

333
00:13:05,953 --> 00:13:09,422
What I am seeing is an unsub
who covers up his tracks.

334
00:13:09,456 --> 00:13:12,993
It looks like he shot
Carl in the throat...

335
00:13:13,026 --> 00:13:15,295
Bullet was
a through and through.

336
00:13:15,328 --> 00:13:17,497
Came out the other side
of Carl's neck

337
00:13:17,530 --> 00:13:19,032
and went in the wall.

338
00:13:19,066 --> 00:13:21,034
Dug it out,
picked up the casing,

339
00:13:21,068 --> 00:13:22,269
took the gun with him.

340
00:13:22,302 --> 00:13:24,437
So this guy knows how
to clean up after himself

341
00:13:24,471 --> 00:13:28,041
and how to get in and out
of two houses without detection.

342
00:13:30,043 --> 00:13:32,012
JJ, let me call you back.

343
00:13:40,287 --> 00:13:42,389
Looks like an RFID card.

344
00:13:42,422 --> 00:13:45,525
Mm-hmm. What's it go to?

345
00:13:45,558 --> 00:13:49,029
That's the question.

346
00:14:07,580 --> 00:14:10,250
Huh. Well, hello.

347
00:14:19,993 --> 00:14:21,328
Huh.

348
00:14:21,361 --> 00:14:23,163
That gun's missing.

349
00:14:23,196 --> 00:14:25,365
Well, it means the
unsub's no mastermind.

350
00:14:25,398 --> 00:14:28,268
It's been right under
our nose the whole time.

351
00:14:28,301 --> 00:14:30,670
So we went through
Carl's meticulous log

352
00:14:30,703 --> 00:14:33,606
of his hardware,
and the missing gun
should be here.

353
00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,475
It is a bodyguard 380.

354
00:14:35,508 --> 00:14:38,611
Now, if the unsub
found this in
a secret compartment,

355
00:14:38,645 --> 00:14:41,314
then he knows Carl,
probably very well.

356
00:14:41,348 --> 00:14:44,217
And based on the fortress
that Carl lived in,

357
00:14:44,251 --> 00:14:46,153
it'd probably be
another truther.

358
00:14:46,186 --> 00:14:48,188
No one else
could get that close.

359
00:14:48,221 --> 00:14:51,224
And that would explain why
there was no forced entry
at Bryan's either.

360
00:14:51,258 --> 00:14:53,393
So when Carl said,
"I'm close to finding out

361
00:14:53,426 --> 00:14:55,328
who it is," he wasn't
talking about
some secret cabal,

362
00:14:55,362 --> 00:14:56,964
he was talking
about a friend.

363
00:14:56,997 --> 00:14:59,366
Prentiss: Someone he was
willing to call the cops on.

364
00:14:59,399 --> 00:15:02,135
We should bring
all the truthers in
for questioning.

365
00:15:02,169 --> 00:15:03,536
No, no, that won't work.

366
00:15:03,570 --> 00:15:05,305
They won't cooperate
under coercion.

367
00:15:05,338 --> 00:15:08,341
Look, I say we lay
all our cards
out on the table.

368
00:15:08,375 --> 00:15:09,509
Let's deliver
our profile to them.

369
00:15:09,542 --> 00:15:11,044
Oh, that's risky.

370
00:15:11,078 --> 00:15:12,479
But worth it.
Either one of the truthers

371
00:15:12,512 --> 00:15:14,414
points us to the unsub...

372
00:15:14,447 --> 00:15:16,416
Or he shows up himself.

373
00:15:16,449 --> 00:15:18,418
And that brings us
up to tonight.

374
00:15:18,451 --> 00:15:20,653
Ballistics confirmed
that the gun that killed Carl

375
00:15:20,687 --> 00:15:22,422
was the one that Doug
used on himself.

376
00:15:22,455 --> 00:15:24,391
All the evidence points
to Doug Downey

377
00:15:24,424 --> 00:15:26,493
as our killer, except...

378
00:15:26,526 --> 00:15:28,095
Except you don't
have anything tying Doug

379
00:15:28,128 --> 00:15:30,297
to Bryan's drowning.

380
00:15:30,330 --> 00:15:33,967
Melissa, I've been as
transparent as I can
possibly be.

381
00:15:34,001 --> 00:15:37,537
Is there anything
we've missed?

382
00:15:37,570 --> 00:15:39,406
[sighs]

383
00:15:39,439 --> 00:15:41,074
One thing.

384
00:15:41,108 --> 00:15:42,375
But you didn't
miss it,

385
00:15:42,409 --> 00:15:44,544
you covered it up.

386
00:15:44,577 --> 00:15:47,214
Specifically,
that the sheriff

387
00:15:47,247 --> 00:15:50,450
made us all
walk through
a metal detector.

388
00:15:50,483 --> 00:15:52,185
What?

389
00:15:52,219 --> 00:15:54,221
Don't pretend
you didn't know that.

390
00:15:54,254 --> 00:15:55,288
And don't pretend
you don't know why.

391
00:15:55,322 --> 00:15:57,090
Someone
in law enforcement

392
00:15:57,124 --> 00:16:00,293
planted a gun on Doug.

393
00:16:00,327 --> 00:16:05,432
Because what was it
that he was saying
earlier tonight?

394
00:16:05,465 --> 00:16:08,168
What did you put
in my pocket?!

395
00:16:08,201 --> 00:16:09,569
Gun! drop it!

396
00:16:09,602 --> 00:16:11,138
[shouting]

397
00:16:11,171 --> 00:16:13,240
Melissa, that doesn't
make any sense.

398
00:16:13,273 --> 00:16:15,775
You tell me what's
more believable--

399
00:16:15,808 --> 00:16:18,545
A missing gun
in a wacky compartment

400
00:16:18,578 --> 00:16:21,281
or the police planted

401
00:16:21,314 --> 00:16:23,416
a bodyguard 380,

402
00:16:23,450 --> 00:16:27,120
a very popular firearm
in law enforcement, on Doug.

403
00:16:27,154 --> 00:16:30,323
Then, they call their friends
all the way in Quantico

404
00:16:30,357 --> 00:16:33,726
and you guys get on
your fancy jet

405
00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,364
and come out here
to make sure that
the cover-up's complete.

406
00:16:37,397 --> 00:16:40,400
That's not what happened.

407
00:16:40,433 --> 00:16:44,437
Am I your unsub?
Yes or no?

408
00:16:44,471 --> 00:16:46,473
You are a person
of interest,

409
00:16:46,506 --> 00:16:48,408
just like
every other truther

410
00:16:48,441 --> 00:16:49,509
in this building tonight.

411
00:16:49,542 --> 00:16:51,278
That's a yes.

412
00:16:51,311 --> 00:16:53,346
Which is why I'm
recording all of this,

413
00:16:53,380 --> 00:16:56,649
to show the world
exactly how far

414
00:16:56,683 --> 00:16:58,518
the FBI
is willing to go

415
00:16:58,551 --> 00:17:00,420
to cover up
the truth.

416
00:17:00,453 --> 00:17:03,256
OK. Let's take a moment.

417
00:17:03,290 --> 00:17:04,291
I think we've gotten
off track.

418
00:17:04,324 --> 00:17:05,558
No, no.
No, we're, uh,

419
00:17:05,592 --> 00:17:08,061
we're right where
we need to be.

420
00:17:08,095 --> 00:17:12,465
See, I wanted
the brilliant science
of behavioral profiling

421
00:17:12,499 --> 00:17:15,102
to provide an answer
for all this.

422
00:17:15,135 --> 00:17:16,603
I really did.

423
00:17:16,636 --> 00:17:21,441
But right now,
from where I'm sitting,

424
00:17:21,474 --> 00:17:24,411
this crazy conspiracy
theorist

425
00:17:24,444 --> 00:17:27,447
is the only one
making any sense.

426
00:17:33,686 --> 00:17:34,754
Guys, hold up.

427
00:17:34,787 --> 00:17:36,656
Can we plug this in
somewhere?

428
00:17:36,689 --> 00:17:37,724
Yes, ma'am.

429
00:17:37,757 --> 00:17:38,558
So this is
the metal detector

430
00:17:38,591 --> 00:17:40,393
mm-hmm.
You had
at the legion hall?

431
00:17:40,427 --> 00:17:42,362
And you made all
the truthers walk through it.

432
00:17:42,395 --> 00:17:44,131
Yep.
And then after that

433
00:17:44,164 --> 00:17:45,198
you brought it back here
to the police stations,

434
00:17:45,232 --> 00:17:46,433
you haven't
touched it since?

435
00:17:46,466 --> 00:17:47,567
Sheriff,
why didn't you tell us

436
00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,136
you were gonna do that?

437
00:17:49,169 --> 00:17:50,770
You told us you didn't
want to spook the truthers.

438
00:17:50,803 --> 00:17:52,872
You also told us
the killer might show up,

439
00:17:52,905 --> 00:17:54,874
so this was
for our protection.

440
00:17:54,907 --> 00:17:56,776
Can you tell me
I was wrong?

441
00:17:56,809 --> 00:17:59,112
No, sheriff,
you weren't wrong,

442
00:17:59,146 --> 00:18:00,847
but it does beg
the bigger question.

443
00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,483
How the hell did Doug get
a gun through that thing?

444
00:18:03,516 --> 00:18:04,817
I was hoping
you could answer that,

445
00:18:04,851 --> 00:18:08,121
you all being
the geniuses with
this investigation.

446
00:18:08,155 --> 00:18:10,157
JJ: No, that's not right.

447
00:18:10,190 --> 00:18:11,224
Alvez: What do you mean
it's not right?

448
00:18:11,258 --> 00:18:12,392
It says it right here.

449
00:18:12,425 --> 00:18:14,261
No, that's not
what I saw.

450
00:18:14,294 --> 00:18:15,495
Did that just--

451
00:18:15,528 --> 00:18:18,731
Lewis: Yeah. Yeah, it did.

452
00:18:18,765 --> 00:18:20,667
What is it?

453
00:18:20,700 --> 00:18:23,436
[beep]

454
00:18:23,470 --> 00:18:26,473
How in the world
could that happen?

455
00:18:26,506 --> 00:18:28,208
I think I might know.

456
00:18:28,241 --> 00:18:29,476
Melissa: Bullcrap.

457
00:18:29,509 --> 00:18:32,145
Bull crap.

458
00:18:32,179 --> 00:18:34,847
You know, I would use
stronger language,

459
00:18:34,881 --> 00:18:36,249
but I don't want
this podcast

460
00:18:36,283 --> 00:18:37,484
to get an "explicit" rating.

461
00:18:37,517 --> 00:18:38,785
Well, it's the truth.

462
00:18:38,818 --> 00:18:41,654
Metal detectors require
precise calibration.

463
00:18:41,688 --> 00:18:44,891
Otherwise, they're
susceptible to all
kinds of interference.

464
00:18:44,924 --> 00:18:47,227
Photocopiers, bluetooth,
even fluorescent lighting.

465
00:18:47,260 --> 00:18:49,362
The sheriff was
in such a hurry
to get it set up

466
00:18:49,396 --> 00:18:51,531
down at the legion hall
that he assumed

467
00:18:51,564 --> 00:18:53,166
it would work the same
way it always had,

468
00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,668
but it didn't.

469
00:18:55,702 --> 00:18:57,904
I still don't buy it.

470
00:18:57,937 --> 00:18:59,272
Do you know why?

471
00:18:59,306 --> 00:19:01,208
Why what?

472
00:19:01,241 --> 00:19:03,210
Why you don't buy it.

473
00:19:03,243 --> 00:19:05,278
I can tell you.

474
00:19:05,312 --> 00:19:08,181
[exhales]

475
00:19:08,215 --> 00:19:10,583
It's called
proportionality bias.

476
00:19:10,617 --> 00:19:12,652
You see, it's our
natural human instinct

477
00:19:12,685 --> 00:19:16,323
to assume that big events
have big causes.

478
00:19:16,356 --> 00:19:17,657
We don't want to believe
that a lone gunman

479
00:19:17,690 --> 00:19:20,693
killed JFK with a rifle
he bought for 19.99,

480
00:19:20,727 --> 00:19:22,962
or that hijackers
brought down 4 planes

481
00:19:22,995 --> 00:19:24,631
using only box cutters.

482
00:19:24,664 --> 00:19:26,533
I mean, there has to be
a better explanation.

483
00:19:26,566 --> 00:19:29,436
We need an answer
that's more satisfying,

484
00:19:29,469 --> 00:19:32,205
but sometimes
it just isn't.

485
00:19:32,239 --> 00:19:33,873
You know?
Machines break down.

486
00:19:33,906 --> 00:19:37,544
Systems don't work.
Life is messy.

487
00:19:37,577 --> 00:19:39,312
It's random.

488
00:19:39,346 --> 00:19:42,349
Fine. Let's just test
your version, shall we?

489
00:19:42,382 --> 00:19:43,516
Let's.

490
00:19:43,550 --> 00:19:46,319
You're saying
that Doug snuck a gun

491
00:19:46,353 --> 00:19:48,288
through a metal detector,
a metal detector

492
00:19:48,321 --> 00:19:50,257
he would have no way
of knowing was broken.

493
00:19:50,290 --> 00:19:51,591
Is that your story?

494
00:19:51,624 --> 00:19:54,661
Well, why don't you
tell me a better one.

495
00:19:54,694 --> 00:19:56,329
Not my job.

496
00:19:56,363 --> 00:19:58,565
What my audience
wants to hear, however,

497
00:19:58,598 --> 00:20:01,501
is how well your team
does yours.

498
00:20:01,534 --> 00:20:04,371
All right, well, while
agent Prentiss and I

499
00:20:04,404 --> 00:20:05,572
were figuring out
the mystery

500
00:20:05,605 --> 00:20:07,774
of the malfunctioning
metal detector,

501
00:20:07,807 --> 00:20:10,577
agents Jareau and Simmons
headed to the morgue.

502
00:20:10,610 --> 00:20:13,246
So let's presume Bryan Behar
here died of asphyxiation

503
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,249
from drowning. What I
can't explain is this.

504
00:20:16,283 --> 00:20:18,551
These chemical burns
on his face.

505
00:20:18,585 --> 00:20:19,919
Well, he was drowned
in a bleach solution.

506
00:20:19,952 --> 00:20:21,388
Would that do this?

507
00:20:21,421 --> 00:20:22,989
No. This looks like
some form

508
00:20:23,022 --> 00:20:24,657
of aerosolized toxin,

509
00:20:24,691 --> 00:20:26,993
but damned if I could
tell you what kind.

510
00:20:27,026 --> 00:20:29,296
And that's still
not the oddest thing
I've seen today.

511
00:20:29,329 --> 00:20:32,299
Mr. Carl lee,
shot in the throat,

512
00:20:32,332 --> 00:20:36,869
but covering his wound,
this doozy.

513
00:20:36,903 --> 00:20:38,605
The blood matches
Mr. Lee.

514
00:20:38,638 --> 00:20:40,940
Myoglobin on the blood
says he was alive
when it happened,

515
00:20:40,973 --> 00:20:42,942
and only his prints
are on it.

516
00:20:42,975 --> 00:20:46,346
Obviously it's from a book,
but I can't tell which one.

517
00:20:46,379 --> 00:20:47,480
We can.

518
00:20:47,514 --> 00:20:50,683
It's from "the catcher
in the rye."

519
00:20:50,717 --> 00:20:52,385
Wow.

520
00:20:52,419 --> 00:20:54,621
Does that mean
something to you?

521
00:20:54,654 --> 00:20:55,788
[scoffs]

522
00:20:55,822 --> 00:20:58,691
Of course that
means something to me.

523
00:20:58,725 --> 00:21:00,360
"the catcher in the rye"
Has been linked

524
00:21:00,393 --> 00:21:01,828
to multiple killers
since it was first published.

525
00:21:01,861 --> 00:21:04,664
And when
mark David Chapman
shot John Lennon,

526
00:21:04,697 --> 00:21:07,334
he said, "read
'catcher in the rye.'

527
00:21:07,367 --> 00:21:08,668
That's my statement."

528
00:21:08,701 --> 00:21:10,303
It was found on
john Hinckley's bookshelf

529
00:21:10,337 --> 00:21:11,404
after he shot Reagan.

530
00:21:11,438 --> 00:21:14,441
Oswald, Manson,
Robert Bardo,

531
00:21:14,474 --> 00:21:15,808
they were all
obsessed with it.

532
00:21:15,842 --> 00:21:17,544
It was the original
brainwashing tool

533
00:21:17,577 --> 00:21:19,011
of the united states
government.

534
00:21:19,045 --> 00:21:20,079
I wouldn't call it that.

535
00:21:20,112 --> 00:21:21,548
Of course you wouldn't.

536
00:21:21,581 --> 00:21:22,782
Because then
you'd have to admit

537
00:21:22,815 --> 00:21:25,017
how sophisticated
the whole-scale duping

538
00:21:25,051 --> 00:21:26,419
of this nation
has become.

539
00:21:26,453 --> 00:21:27,454
I'm not following you.

540
00:21:27,487 --> 00:21:31,958
Aurora, Orlando,
sandy hook.

541
00:21:31,991 --> 00:21:33,092
The united states government

542
00:21:33,125 --> 00:21:35,094
shot up a bunch
of empty buildings

543
00:21:35,127 --> 00:21:36,596
and then gathered
everything up

544
00:21:36,629 --> 00:21:38,331
and traded it
amongst themselves

545
00:21:38,365 --> 00:21:42,902
because that's how
plausible deniability works.

546
00:21:42,935 --> 00:21:45,438
Sandy hook was staged?

547
00:21:45,472 --> 00:21:48,575
Sandy hook was staged
the worst.

548
00:21:48,608 --> 00:21:50,510
All those actors
they threw in front
of cameras

549
00:21:50,543 --> 00:21:52,111
to be grieving parents.

550
00:21:52,144 --> 00:21:54,581
I was screaming
at my television set,

551
00:21:54,614 --> 00:21:56,516
"you're lying!"

552
00:21:56,549 --> 00:21:58,418
And if they would lie
about that,

553
00:21:58,451 --> 00:22:01,421
then they would absolutely
lie about a metal detector.

554
00:22:01,454 --> 00:22:05,525
So let me make one thing
clear moving forward.

555
00:22:05,558 --> 00:22:09,996
When I say they,
I mean you.

556
00:22:13,833 --> 00:22:17,404
Give me one second.

557
00:22:20,473 --> 00:22:24,811
[indistinct chatter]

558
00:22:36,823 --> 00:22:39,526
Son of a--
[screaming, banging]

559
00:22:39,559 --> 00:22:43,596
What the hell kind of outfit
you running here, agent?

560
00:22:50,437 --> 00:22:53,440
You want to talk
about it?

561
00:22:53,473 --> 00:22:55,442
No.

562
00:22:58,845 --> 00:23:02,449
It's OK to tap out
if you want.

563
00:23:02,482 --> 00:23:05,752
No. Emily,
I can do this.

564
00:23:05,785 --> 00:23:07,487
Has she said anything
that points

565
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,155
to her involvement
in the murders?

566
00:23:09,188 --> 00:23:12,559
Have you gotten
any answers out of her?

567
00:23:12,592 --> 00:23:15,728
Maybe it's time
to change up the strategy.

568
00:23:25,004 --> 00:23:26,673
Where's Dr. Lewis?

569
00:23:26,706 --> 00:23:29,576
I'm SSA Jareau.
I'm here to talk to you

570
00:23:29,609 --> 00:23:31,811
about your favorite book,
"catcher in the rye."

571
00:23:31,844 --> 00:23:35,482
[laughs] I get it.
You're rotating agents now,

572
00:23:35,515 --> 00:23:37,216
wearing me down
so I can't see your lies.

573
00:23:37,249 --> 00:23:38,518
Is that the game?

574
00:23:38,551 --> 00:23:40,553
I just had some
information

575
00:23:40,587 --> 00:23:42,622
agent Lewis didn't,

576
00:23:42,655 --> 00:23:44,090
but if you don't
want to hear it--

577
00:23:44,123 --> 00:23:45,525
Oh, no, I want to hear it.

578
00:23:50,930 --> 00:23:52,465
[ding]

579
00:23:52,499 --> 00:23:56,603
So after we found
such a prominent clue on Carl,

580
00:23:56,636 --> 00:23:58,871
we wanted to study
the original text,

581
00:23:58,905 --> 00:24:00,473
so we got a copy
of the book.

582
00:24:00,507 --> 00:24:02,642
Apparently,
"catcher in the rye"

583
00:24:02,675 --> 00:24:05,712
Is the local book club
selection this month.

584
00:24:05,745 --> 00:24:08,047
And did you know
that there are two actual...

585
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,649
Alvez: ...brick and mortar
bookstores in Roswell?

586
00:24:09,682 --> 00:24:11,584
But one of the owners
was happy to give me a copy.

587
00:24:11,618 --> 00:24:12,585
What page is it?

588
00:24:12,619 --> 00:24:14,587
Uh, 76. That's
what was on Carl.

589
00:24:14,621 --> 00:24:17,590
OK, here it is.
It, uh, it starts
mid-sentence.

590
00:24:17,624 --> 00:24:19,992
"don't see how he could
like a phony book like that

591
00:24:20,026 --> 00:24:22,662
and still like the one
by ring Lardner."

592
00:24:22,695 --> 00:24:24,664
No, that's not right.

593
00:24:24,697 --> 00:24:26,533
What do you mean,
it's not right?
I have it right here.

594
00:24:26,566 --> 00:24:27,667
That's not what I saw.

595
00:24:27,700 --> 00:24:29,969
Prentiss:
Did that just--

596
00:24:30,002 --> 00:24:32,639
Yeah, see, this page 76
Is different.

597
00:24:32,672 --> 00:24:34,240
The page on Carl's throat
was annotated.

598
00:24:34,273 --> 00:24:37,209
The publisher bolded
terms and phrases
for emphasis.

599
00:24:37,243 --> 00:24:39,646
Well, that would
throw the whole layout
of the book off

600
00:24:39,679 --> 00:24:41,614
and then your page 76
Wouldn't look like this one.

601
00:24:41,648 --> 00:24:44,651
OK, there are two
editions of the book.
That's common.

602
00:24:44,684 --> 00:24:47,620
But maybe it's not
the page that's important.

603
00:24:47,654 --> 00:24:49,589
Maybe it's the edition.

604
00:24:49,622 --> 00:24:51,891
The devil's in
the pitchforky
little details,

605
00:24:51,924 --> 00:24:52,925
my friends.

606
00:24:52,959 --> 00:24:55,027
I matched the formatting

607
00:24:55,061 --> 00:24:57,897
of the text
on poor doomed Carl

608
00:24:57,930 --> 00:24:59,532
to a local publisher.

609
00:24:59,566 --> 00:25:01,834
He goes by the name
of Bob Orci.

610
00:25:01,868 --> 00:25:04,571
He writes conspiracy-
Related commentary

611
00:25:04,604 --> 00:25:07,640
for books like
"behold a pale horse,"

612
00:25:07,674 --> 00:25:09,542
"protocols of
the elders of Zion,"

613
00:25:09,576 --> 00:25:10,677
"Mein Kampf."

614
00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:11,678
Books the truthers love.

615
00:25:11,711 --> 00:25:14,013
Right now we need
as much evidence
as possible

616
00:25:14,046 --> 00:25:15,648
to prove that Doug
is our unsub.

617
00:25:15,682 --> 00:25:17,684
If he bought the book
we found on Carl,

618
00:25:17,717 --> 00:25:18,618
it strengthens our case.

619
00:25:18,651 --> 00:25:20,553
Luke, you and Matt,
bring in this publisher.

620
00:25:20,587 --> 00:25:22,121
I'm on it. Garcia,
can you help me out
with an address?

621
00:25:22,154 --> 00:25:24,891
Yeah, I'm working on
the physical address
of Mr. Orci as we speak.

622
00:25:24,924 --> 00:25:26,693
The thing is,
he lives so far out there

623
00:25:26,726 --> 00:25:28,294
that it's not a place
where there are street numbers

624
00:25:28,327 --> 00:25:29,829
on the houses,
so the closest single

625
00:25:29,862 --> 00:25:31,197
physical address
I can get you is...

626
00:25:31,230 --> 00:25:32,298
Route 3, greenwood way?

627
00:25:32,331 --> 00:25:33,733
You know him?

628
00:25:33,766 --> 00:25:35,101
By reputation.
He's not a truther.

629
00:25:35,134 --> 00:25:36,268
He's an anarchist.
He's dangerous.

630
00:25:36,302 --> 00:25:37,303
How dangerous?

631
00:25:37,336 --> 00:25:40,006
He has fertilizer lining
his place as an explosive.

632
00:25:40,039 --> 00:25:41,641
Prentiss!

633
00:25:41,674 --> 00:25:43,643
Wait. That far out
in the desert,

634
00:25:43,676 --> 00:25:44,443
there's no cell service.

635
00:25:44,476 --> 00:25:46,613
You're not gonna
reach them by phone.

636
00:25:54,253 --> 00:25:58,658
[coyote howling]

637
00:25:58,691 --> 00:26:01,293
Alvez: Is that anfo, Matt?

638
00:26:01,327 --> 00:26:03,029
Yeah.

639
00:26:16,676 --> 00:26:18,845
FBI!

640
00:26:18,878 --> 00:26:20,813
Oh, my god.

641
00:26:29,656 --> 00:26:30,823
[door opens]

642
00:26:30,857 --> 00:26:33,292
What's going on?
Who are you?

643
00:26:33,325 --> 00:26:36,095
I'm SSA Emily Prentiss
of the BAU.

644
00:26:36,128 --> 00:26:38,631
Melissa, you're gonna
want to take a seat.

645
00:26:38,665 --> 00:26:40,700
Oh, god, someone died,
didn't they?

646
00:26:40,733 --> 00:26:42,401
What makes you say that?

647
00:26:42,434 --> 00:26:44,871
You guys have had me
waiting in here
for hours

648
00:26:44,904 --> 00:26:48,140
while your team
tracked down Bob Orci.
What happened?

649
00:26:48,174 --> 00:26:50,710
Are you recording this?
You should.

650
00:26:50,743 --> 00:26:52,679
[ding]

651
00:26:52,712 --> 00:26:54,914
Agents Simmons and Alvez

652
00:26:54,947 --> 00:26:57,316
landed at Bob Orci's
at 3:37 am.

653
00:26:57,349 --> 00:27:00,186
The were very surprised
by what they found.

654
00:27:00,219 --> 00:27:02,288
FBI!

655
00:27:02,321 --> 00:27:03,289
Oh, my god.

656
00:27:03,322 --> 00:27:06,826
Hey, guys, meet Bob Orci.
Weapons down, please.

657
00:27:06,859 --> 00:27:07,960
You were saying...

658
00:27:07,994 --> 00:27:10,096
Wait. So you got there
before them.

659
00:27:10,129 --> 00:27:11,097
How?

660
00:27:11,130 --> 00:27:12,865
By helicopter.

661
00:27:12,899 --> 00:27:14,233
Not the bureau's
helicopter.

662
00:27:14,266 --> 00:27:15,935
This one belongs
to the police force.

663
00:27:15,968 --> 00:27:17,737
What?

664
00:27:17,770 --> 00:27:19,138
There's been a push.

665
00:27:19,171 --> 00:27:20,740
Police forces
across the country

666
00:27:20,773 --> 00:27:22,909
have been purchasing
military-grade hardware.

667
00:27:22,942 --> 00:27:25,878
Yeah. Like grenade
launchers and tanks.

668
00:27:25,912 --> 00:27:27,446
Roswell doesn't
need a tank.

669
00:27:27,479 --> 00:27:29,849
It needs a helicopter.
People get lost
in the desert.

670
00:27:29,882 --> 00:27:31,784
Sometimes an FBI agent
like me

671
00:27:31,818 --> 00:27:33,753
needs to get to a cabin
in the middle of nowhere

672
00:27:33,786 --> 00:27:35,187
as fast as possible.

673
00:27:35,221 --> 00:27:37,356
Based on your warning,
the sheriff and I

674
00:27:37,389 --> 00:27:40,827
landed a mile away
and we came up with a plan.

675
00:27:45,431 --> 00:27:48,300
FBI! hands up, now!

676
00:27:48,334 --> 00:27:49,969
Now!

677
00:27:50,002 --> 00:27:51,771
Wh-what?!
What is--

678
00:27:51,804 --> 00:27:53,205
Hands on your head.

679
00:27:53,239 --> 00:27:55,041
Get on your knees.

680
00:27:55,074 --> 00:27:57,043
Where's the fertilizer, bob?

681
00:27:57,076 --> 00:27:59,111
The fertili--
Uh, it's--

682
00:27:59,145 --> 00:28:00,747
It's under the tarp
over there.

683
00:28:00,780 --> 00:28:02,782
Yes, sir.
Check it out.

684
00:28:02,815 --> 00:28:04,283
Uh...

685
00:28:04,316 --> 00:28:07,053
No, that's, uh, my--
My organic tomatoes

686
00:28:07,086 --> 00:28:09,922
need special soil,
and--and--

687
00:28:09,956 --> 00:28:11,423
Th-that's my vitamin
supplements

688
00:28:11,457 --> 00:28:14,193
are in those barrels.

689
00:28:14,226 --> 00:28:15,194
No, wait, wait, wait, wait.

690
00:28:15,227 --> 00:28:17,196
No, please. Please.

691
00:28:17,229 --> 00:28:19,398
I--I swear to you,
I will surrender everything.

692
00:28:19,431 --> 00:28:21,400
Just please don't kill me.

693
00:28:21,433 --> 00:28:23,135
Organic tomatoes.

694
00:28:23,169 --> 00:28:24,403
Yeah.

695
00:28:24,436 --> 00:28:26,205
Anfo stands for

696
00:28:26,238 --> 00:28:28,507
ammonium nitrate
fuel oil. Fuel oil.

697
00:28:28,540 --> 00:28:30,242
You can't grow
anything with it.

698
00:28:30,276 --> 00:28:31,477
We pointed that out
to bob.

699
00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:35,281
He said that must be why
his tomatoes kept dying.

700
00:28:35,314 --> 00:28:37,316
We searched
the whole compound anyway.

701
00:28:37,349 --> 00:28:38,450
There was no bomb.

702
00:28:38,484 --> 00:28:40,219
But Bob Orci

703
00:28:40,252 --> 00:28:42,188
had quite the story
to tell.

704
00:28:42,221 --> 00:28:44,523
It's all an act.
I'm no hermit.

705
00:28:44,556 --> 00:28:48,227
Yeah, I--
I tell these truthers

706
00:28:48,260 --> 00:28:50,229
that I'm some kind
of holy fool

707
00:28:50,262 --> 00:28:52,198
and they buy all my stuff.

708
00:28:52,231 --> 00:28:54,400
By "stuff,"
You mean your books?

709
00:28:54,433 --> 00:28:57,536
No, the books
are a loss-leader.

710
00:28:57,569 --> 00:28:59,772
But the vitamin
supplements, oh,

711
00:28:59,806 --> 00:29:02,441
oh, my god,
I've made so much money

712
00:29:02,474 --> 00:29:04,143
off the vitamin supplements.

713
00:29:04,176 --> 00:29:06,378
So, "catcher in the rye"
Is just the latest

714
00:29:06,412 --> 00:29:08,848
in a long line of crap.

715
00:29:08,881 --> 00:29:10,116
Well, the book itself isn't.

716
00:29:10,149 --> 00:29:12,084
And J.D. Salinger
is a genius.

717
00:29:12,118 --> 00:29:14,053
Didn't your read my commentary,

718
00:29:14,086 --> 00:29:16,555
read my notes, annotations?

719
00:29:16,588 --> 00:29:18,825
I tried. You lost me

720
00:29:18,858 --> 00:29:20,026
when you tried
to connect

721
00:29:20,059 --> 00:29:22,061
Holden Caulfield to
the Bilderberg group.

722
00:29:22,094 --> 00:29:23,362
There is no connection.

723
00:29:23,395 --> 00:29:26,532
All you gotta do
to fool these morons

724
00:29:26,565 --> 00:29:28,935
is to ask a question
that starts with,

725
00:29:28,968 --> 00:29:30,369
"isn't it interesting?"

726
00:29:30,402 --> 00:29:33,172
Like--like--
Like, isn't it interesting

727
00:29:33,205 --> 00:29:36,809
that Holden Caulfield
and Bilderberg group

728
00:29:36,843 --> 00:29:39,378
both have 15 letters.

729
00:29:39,411 --> 00:29:41,113
Yeah. And then you tag that

730
00:29:41,147 --> 00:29:43,315
with "wow! wake up, sheeple,"

731
00:29:43,349 --> 00:29:45,117
You just sold
a thousand copies.

732
00:29:45,151 --> 00:29:46,853
We think the killer
might have bought

733
00:29:46,886 --> 00:29:48,587
one of your commentaries.

734
00:29:48,620 --> 00:29:50,556
Who'd you sell to
in Roswell?

735
00:29:50,589 --> 00:29:52,424
The book group
is reading

736
00:29:52,458 --> 00:29:54,126
"catcher in the rye"
Next month,

737
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,196
so all I was
trying to do is
capitalize on that.

738
00:29:57,229 --> 00:29:59,832
And only one guy
seemed to show
any interest.

739
00:29:59,866 --> 00:30:02,468
[door bangs open]
FBI!

740
00:30:02,501 --> 00:30:03,903
Oh, my god.

741
00:30:03,936 --> 00:30:05,604
Hey, guys, meet Bob Orci.

742
00:30:05,637 --> 00:30:09,075
Weapons down, please.
You were saying...

743
00:30:09,108 --> 00:30:10,877
Carl lee.

744
00:30:10,910 --> 00:30:13,612
The guy's name was Carl lee.

745
00:30:13,645 --> 00:30:16,215
So it was Carl's copy.

746
00:30:16,248 --> 00:30:17,917
Doug didn't
bring it with him?

747
00:30:17,950 --> 00:30:20,286
Why would Doug put page
76 OVER CARL'S THROAT?

748
00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:21,387
he didn't.

749
00:30:21,420 --> 00:30:24,090
Only Carl's
fingerprints and DNA

750
00:30:24,123 --> 00:30:27,093
were on that page.
Doug never touched it.

751
00:30:27,126 --> 00:30:28,895
You've lost me.

752
00:30:28,928 --> 00:30:30,629
Ever been shot before?

753
00:30:30,662 --> 00:30:32,531
People do weird things
when they're shot.

754
00:30:32,564 --> 00:30:34,133
[gunshot]

755
00:30:34,166 --> 00:30:35,401
[groans]

756
00:30:35,434 --> 00:30:38,470
Prentiss: Carl was
slipping into shock,

757
00:30:38,504 --> 00:30:41,340
meaning he had some vague
awareness that he was gonna die

758
00:30:41,373 --> 00:30:43,442
and his brain
was short-circuiting.

759
00:30:43,475 --> 00:30:45,878
So that clue that
seemed so important
4 HOURS AGO,

760
00:30:45,912 --> 00:30:47,914
it means nothing.

761
00:30:47,947 --> 00:30:50,016
Life is messy, random.

762
00:30:50,049 --> 00:30:51,383
That's why I sent
agent Jareau

763
00:30:51,417 --> 00:30:53,019
back to the first
crime scene.

764
00:30:53,052 --> 00:30:54,586
We needed to take
a look at it again

765
00:30:54,620 --> 00:30:56,388
without any preconceptions.

766
00:30:56,422 --> 00:30:58,524
And when she saw
the cleaning supplies,

767
00:30:58,557 --> 00:31:00,092
she had an idea.

768
00:31:00,126 --> 00:31:03,362
Specifically, what happens
when you're not careful

769
00:31:03,395 --> 00:31:05,264
how you clean your aquarium?

770
00:31:05,297 --> 00:31:07,967
So she had Garcia
do some research.

771
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,468
So let's talk about
weird science.

772
00:31:09,501 --> 00:31:10,436
There are certain
types of coral

773
00:31:10,469 --> 00:31:13,305
that when they come
into contact with bleach,

774
00:31:13,339 --> 00:31:15,674
release something called
a palytoxin.

775
00:31:15,707 --> 00:31:19,145
So the coral, it, like,
emits this aerosol

776
00:31:19,178 --> 00:31:20,947
and then that aerosol
causes the throat

777
00:31:20,980 --> 00:31:23,382
and the lungs to close and
the eyes and the skin to burn.

778
00:31:23,415 --> 00:31:25,351
Well, that's the mystery
chemical weapon

779
00:31:25,384 --> 00:31:26,652
the ME Couldn't place.

780
00:31:26,685 --> 00:31:28,988
So let's play this out.

781
00:31:29,021 --> 00:31:30,222
He pours in the bleach,

782
00:31:30,256 --> 00:31:32,691
coral spits out its toxin,

783
00:31:32,724 --> 00:31:36,395
and mother nature
does the rest.

784
00:31:37,729 --> 00:31:40,599
[gasping]

785
00:31:43,970 --> 00:31:45,704
It's not murder.

786
00:31:45,737 --> 00:31:48,440
It's an accident.

787
00:31:49,541 --> 00:31:51,510
We're veering
dangerously close

788
00:31:51,543 --> 00:31:52,945
to bullcrap territory.

789
00:31:52,979 --> 00:31:55,114
We could call it murder.

790
00:31:55,147 --> 00:31:57,316
If the profile was
Charles Darwin's

791
00:31:57,349 --> 00:31:58,985
theory of natural selection,

792
00:31:59,018 --> 00:32:00,652
we could arrest
the piece of coral, I guess.

793
00:32:00,686 --> 00:32:03,956
Or, we could just accept
that life is--

794
00:32:03,990 --> 00:32:07,259
Messy, random. Yeah.

795
00:32:07,293 --> 00:32:09,161
Until it's not.

796
00:32:09,195 --> 00:32:10,429
What does that mean?

797
00:32:10,462 --> 00:32:12,999
Well, that seemingly
unimportant book,

798
00:32:13,032 --> 00:32:16,668
there was one additional
detail Bob Orci told us about

799
00:32:16,702 --> 00:32:18,304
that I forgot to mention.

800
00:32:18,337 --> 00:32:21,473
No, I--I didn't forget.

801
00:32:21,507 --> 00:32:23,742
I was holding back
for dramatic effect.

802
00:32:23,775 --> 00:32:27,379
Carl lee.
His name was Carl lee.

803
00:32:27,413 --> 00:32:30,016
And the reason
that sticks out

804
00:32:30,049 --> 00:32:32,551
is because he asked me
to write a dedication

805
00:32:32,584 --> 00:32:34,086
on the inside cover
of the book.

806
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,222
It's something I add
for an extra 20 bucks.

807
00:32:36,255 --> 00:32:39,058
You know? and sometimes
I use the wild man font

808
00:32:39,091 --> 00:32:40,659
and the truthers all go,

809
00:32:40,692 --> 00:32:43,562
"oh, wow, look, he actually
wrote stuff in my book."

810
00:32:43,595 --> 00:32:45,998
Tara,
we have something.

811
00:32:52,104 --> 00:32:53,539
Found it, Emily.

812
00:32:53,572 --> 00:32:54,706
What does it say?

813
00:32:54,740 --> 00:33:00,112
"to my darling Melissa,
love always, Carl."

814
00:33:00,146 --> 00:33:02,114
We were dating.
That's not a crime.

815
00:33:02,148 --> 00:33:03,349
So why hide it?

816
00:33:03,382 --> 00:33:05,551
The truther
community is small,

817
00:33:05,584 --> 00:33:07,053
and we're gossipy.

818
00:33:07,086 --> 00:33:08,187
Also, we're already
convinced

819
00:33:08,220 --> 00:33:09,688
agents like you
are watching us.

820
00:33:09,721 --> 00:33:12,058
So Carl and I
covered our tracks.

821
00:33:12,091 --> 00:33:13,725
So well, in fact,
that the great
and powerful Garcia

822
00:33:13,759 --> 00:33:15,361
is not going
to find them.

823
00:33:15,394 --> 00:33:16,762
I believe you.

824
00:33:16,795 --> 00:33:18,330
Which is why
we had to rely

825
00:33:18,364 --> 00:33:19,798
on old-fashioned profiling

826
00:33:19,831 --> 00:33:21,633
to figure out this next part.

827
00:33:21,667 --> 00:33:24,736
And it started
with a question
you asked first.

828
00:33:24,770 --> 00:33:28,207
Why would Doug kill
himself for no reason?

829
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:33,112
So, we reconstructed
Doug's suicide
to see what we missed.

830
00:33:33,145 --> 00:33:34,746
So you were there
and I was here.

831
00:33:34,780 --> 00:33:35,747
Right.

832
00:33:35,781 --> 00:33:37,249
And then he was
screaming at you,

833
00:33:37,283 --> 00:33:39,551
"I know a false flag
when I see one, bitch."

834
00:33:39,585 --> 00:33:41,120
And then bang.

835
00:33:41,153 --> 00:33:42,321
No, that's not right.

836
00:33:42,354 --> 00:33:44,156
He said all those
things, but not to me.

837
00:33:44,190 --> 00:33:45,624
He was looking at you.

838
00:33:45,657 --> 00:33:48,360
No, no. If someone
made eye contact with me

839
00:33:48,394 --> 00:33:50,262
and called me a bitch,
I'd remember.

840
00:33:50,296 --> 00:33:51,463
Maybe he wasn't looking
at either of you.

841
00:33:51,497 --> 00:33:53,199
He was looking between you.

842
00:33:53,232 --> 00:33:56,168
Uh...JJ, you were
posted up over there

843
00:33:56,202 --> 00:33:57,836
yeah.
For line of sight.

844
00:33:57,869 --> 00:33:59,305
OK, there's only
one one other woman

845
00:33:59,338 --> 00:34:01,773
in the room
he would have been
talking to.

846
00:34:01,807 --> 00:34:03,742
The reason
we asked you here,

847
00:34:03,775 --> 00:34:06,478
the only reason,
is to listen.

848
00:34:06,512 --> 00:34:07,479
That's all.

849
00:34:07,513 --> 00:34:09,715
So just listen.

850
00:34:09,748 --> 00:34:12,784
Listen.
Put the gun down.

851
00:34:12,818 --> 00:34:14,553
I know a false flag
when I see one.

852
00:34:14,586 --> 00:34:16,155
You bitch!

853
00:34:16,188 --> 00:34:17,123
[gunshot]

854
00:34:17,156 --> 00:34:18,790
It all started
with Carl's text.

855
00:34:18,824 --> 00:34:20,226
"I'm close
to finding out
who it is."

856
00:34:20,259 --> 00:34:22,094
He was talking
about Melissa,

857
00:34:22,128 --> 00:34:24,096
as in, "I'm close
to finding out who
she's cheating with."

858
00:34:24,130 --> 00:34:25,797
She was cheating
with Doug?

859
00:34:25,831 --> 00:34:27,433
Yes. And when
she found out

860
00:34:27,466 --> 00:34:28,800
Carl was onto her,
she killed him.

861
00:34:28,834 --> 00:34:30,836
Whoa. Slow down there,
partner.

862
00:34:30,869 --> 00:34:32,571
Think about it.
It's the oldest
motivation in the book--

863
00:34:32,604 --> 00:34:36,175
Sex. Melissa is cunning
and manipulative,

864
00:34:36,208 --> 00:34:38,644
and she is a psychopath,
and a good one.

865
00:34:38,677 --> 00:34:41,580
I mean, she sat there
while I laid out
this entire case,

866
00:34:41,613 --> 00:34:43,249
she did not tip a thing.

867
00:34:43,282 --> 00:34:44,816
Now, Doug's prints
were on the gun
because of the suicide,

868
00:34:44,850 --> 00:34:48,554
but with Carl, Melissa
could have used gloves,
and...

869
00:34:51,157 --> 00:34:52,558
What?

870
00:34:52,591 --> 00:34:55,161
Why is everybody
staring at me?

871
00:34:55,194 --> 00:34:56,895
Tara, I want to believe that.

872
00:34:56,928 --> 00:35:00,866
An arrest would relieve
a lot of tension

873
00:35:00,899 --> 00:35:02,901
on this case, but...

874
00:35:02,934 --> 00:35:04,102
But we don't have
the evidence,

875
00:35:04,136 --> 00:35:08,140
and without the evidence, we're
no better than the truthers.

876
00:35:08,174 --> 00:35:10,676
No better than the truthers.

877
00:35:13,312 --> 00:35:16,482
Melissa...

878
00:35:16,515 --> 00:35:20,252
Thinks that sandy hook
was staged.

879
00:35:22,221 --> 00:35:24,556
I was there...

880
00:35:24,590 --> 00:35:28,194
That day, and I counseled
those parents,

881
00:35:28,227 --> 00:35:31,530
and I saw...

882
00:35:31,563 --> 00:35:34,166
I saw those kids.

883
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,837
So the day that I lose
to someone like her...

884
00:35:38,870 --> 00:35:41,673
That's the day that I quit.

885
00:35:41,707 --> 00:35:44,843
It's biased thinking,

886
00:35:44,876 --> 00:35:47,246
and if we allow it
to color our profile

887
00:35:47,279 --> 00:35:50,182
and the arrest
falls apart,

888
00:35:50,216 --> 00:35:52,551
we'll be a stain
on the bureau.

889
00:35:52,584 --> 00:35:57,823
OK, so what, we just...
We just back off on Melissa?

890
00:35:57,856 --> 00:36:00,659
No. We back up our profile.

891
00:36:00,692 --> 00:36:04,863
You have a theory, Tara.
Now prove your results.

892
00:36:04,896 --> 00:36:07,833
Now, once we're inside
Melissa's house,
what are we looking for?

893
00:36:07,866 --> 00:36:10,802
Well, maybe
she cleaned up
Carl lee's crime scene.

894
00:36:10,836 --> 00:36:13,505
The gun's accounted for,
but the missing bullet
and casing aren't.

895
00:36:13,539 --> 00:36:16,275
Great start. What else?

896
00:36:16,308 --> 00:36:19,878
I admit my bias,
out loud,

897
00:36:19,911 --> 00:36:20,846
because
I wasn't able to see

898
00:36:20,879 --> 00:36:23,415
what was right in front
of me the whole time.

899
00:36:23,449 --> 00:36:26,818
I thought anyone
who believed
in conspiracy theories

900
00:36:26,852 --> 00:36:30,722
had to be deluded.
There was no way
they could outsmart me.

901
00:36:30,756 --> 00:36:35,461
And I was wrong.
There is a conspiracy
in this case.

902
00:36:35,494 --> 00:36:38,830
And you
are at the center of it.

903
00:36:38,864 --> 00:36:44,970
So, allow me to be clear
from this point forward.

904
00:36:45,003 --> 00:36:47,473
I'm going to give you one
chance to tell the truth,

905
00:36:47,506 --> 00:36:51,277
one. Keep in mind
we are already
searching your place.

906
00:36:51,310 --> 00:36:55,013
If you lie, if you
hold back in any way,

907
00:36:55,046 --> 00:36:56,248
I will know about it,

908
00:36:56,282 --> 00:36:59,017
and I will nail you
for it,

909
00:36:59,050 --> 00:37:02,388
all the way to
a life sentence.

910
00:37:02,421 --> 00:37:04,222
Wow.

911
00:37:10,629 --> 00:37:13,565
What's the point of this?

912
00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:15,634
I guess there's just
one last thing to say

913
00:37:15,667 --> 00:37:18,937
before I invoke my right
to an attorney.

914
00:37:21,340 --> 00:37:24,242
Good luck.

915
00:37:33,519 --> 00:37:34,720
Rossi: Anything?

916
00:37:34,753 --> 00:37:36,021
Melissa's house
was spotless.

917
00:37:36,054 --> 00:37:37,456
Zero evidence
of her involvement.

918
00:37:37,489 --> 00:37:39,558
How are you guys doing?

919
00:37:39,591 --> 00:37:41,026
Yikes.

920
00:37:41,059 --> 00:37:42,394
Yeah, every time
we try to reason it out,

921
00:37:42,428 --> 00:37:44,296
we keep hitting
different walls.

922
00:37:44,330 --> 00:37:45,196
We have to make an arrest

923
00:37:45,230 --> 00:37:47,466
or release all the truthers
from custody.

924
00:37:47,499 --> 00:37:49,301
Give me the version
that makes the most sense.

925
00:37:49,335 --> 00:37:50,936
OK, well, Doug was holding
the gun that killed Carl,

926
00:37:50,969 --> 00:37:53,004
but there is nothing
behaviorally

927
00:37:53,038 --> 00:37:54,473
that points to him
being a killer.

928
00:37:54,506 --> 00:37:56,775
And Melissa's the
undiagnosed psychopath,

929
00:37:56,808 --> 00:37:57,976
and Carl was figuring out
that she was cheating.

930
00:37:58,009 --> 00:38:01,547
And as his girlfriend,
she would know where
he hid his guns,

931
00:38:01,580 --> 00:38:04,015
and so we--
We're thinking this.

932
00:38:04,049 --> 00:38:05,951
Carl and Melissa
were fighting.

933
00:38:05,984 --> 00:38:08,454
Psychopaths aren't known
for their small egos

934
00:38:08,487 --> 00:38:10,556
or impulse control,
and so Melissa got angry

935
00:38:10,589 --> 00:38:12,624
and she waits for Carl
to turn his back,

936
00:38:12,658 --> 00:38:14,493
Carl!
And then bang.

937
00:38:17,429 --> 00:38:19,565
So she cleans up
as best as she could,

938
00:38:19,598 --> 00:38:22,401
but now she has to hide
what she did.

939
00:38:29,508 --> 00:38:32,578
So we asked the truthers
to listen to our profile,

940
00:38:32,611 --> 00:38:35,547
and she thought, "a-ha!
I'll turn this to my advantage.

941
00:38:35,581 --> 00:38:38,517
"I'll frame my boyfriend,
who is the most likely suspect

942
00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:39,685
if they put this together."

943
00:38:39,718 --> 00:38:41,487
So she slips the gun
into Doug's pocket.

944
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,589
And Doug walks through
without incident

945
00:38:43,622 --> 00:38:46,024
because the metal
detector is broken.

946
00:38:46,057 --> 00:38:47,859
He doesn't notice
the gun in his pocket

947
00:38:47,893 --> 00:38:49,795
until midway through
our profiling and he panics.

948
00:38:49,828 --> 00:38:52,731
What did you
put in my pocket?!

949
00:38:52,764 --> 00:38:54,533
Gun! drop it!

950
00:38:54,566 --> 00:38:56,101
He assumes,
like all truthers,

951
00:38:56,134 --> 00:38:57,636
that no one in the government
is gonna believe him,

952
00:38:57,669 --> 00:38:59,405
so his last words
aren't to us,

953
00:38:59,438 --> 00:39:00,439
but to Melissa.

954
00:39:00,472 --> 00:39:03,775
I know a false flag
when I see one.

955
00:39:03,809 --> 00:39:05,444
You bitch!

956
00:39:05,477 --> 00:39:06,678
[gunshot]

957
00:39:06,712 --> 00:39:09,815
That's the version
that makes the most sense.

958
00:39:09,848 --> 00:39:11,717
Even if I buy it,
a DA won't.

959
00:39:11,750 --> 00:39:13,552
We need more, guys.

960
00:39:13,585 --> 00:39:14,553
Well, the only thing
that's left

961
00:39:14,586 --> 00:39:15,921
is the bullet
and the casing.

962
00:39:15,954 --> 00:39:17,589
But she could have
dumped that anywhere.

963
00:39:17,623 --> 00:39:19,491
No, that's not
the only thing.
The podcast.

964
00:39:19,525 --> 00:39:20,926
She--she had us right
where she wanted.

965
00:39:20,959 --> 00:39:23,462
She could have
posted the audio
of our conversation

966
00:39:23,495 --> 00:39:25,564
to prove we were
trying to cover this up,

967
00:39:25,597 --> 00:39:27,466
but instead she deleted it.

968
00:39:27,499 --> 00:39:28,767
Which she only
would have done

969
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,436
if she had revealed
herself somehow.

970
00:39:30,469 --> 00:39:31,770
She didn't say anything
incriminating

971
00:39:31,803 --> 00:39:33,405
when I talked to her.

972
00:39:33,439 --> 00:39:34,640
Me neither.

973
00:39:34,673 --> 00:39:36,575
Then it was me.
She let something slip,

974
00:39:36,608 --> 00:39:38,510
something she doesn't
want me to remember.

975
00:39:38,544 --> 00:39:41,447
So, what?

976
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,116
Aurora, Orlando,
sandy hook.

977
00:39:45,150 --> 00:39:46,652
The united states government

978
00:39:46,685 --> 00:39:48,754
shot up a bunch
of empty buildings

979
00:39:48,787 --> 00:39:50,489
and then gathered
everything up

980
00:39:50,522 --> 00:39:51,957
and traded it
amongst themselves,

981
00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:55,427
because that's how
plausible deniability works.

982
00:39:55,461 --> 00:39:56,428
[exhales]

983
00:39:56,462 --> 00:39:57,496
She traded it.

984
00:39:57,529 --> 00:39:58,730
Traded what?

985
00:39:58,764 --> 00:40:00,532
The bullet
and the shell casing.

986
00:40:00,566 --> 00:40:02,033
She took the evidence and she
gave it to someone else.

987
00:40:02,067 --> 00:40:03,635
And you know this
because...

988
00:40:03,669 --> 00:40:05,937
Think about a conspiracy
theory like a pathology.

989
00:40:05,971 --> 00:40:08,740
What disgusts her,
what she fears most
in other people,

990
00:40:08,774 --> 00:40:09,908
that's the action
she'll copy

991
00:40:09,941 --> 00:40:11,810
to justify her own
belief system.

992
00:40:11,843 --> 00:40:13,545
So who has the bullet?

993
00:40:13,579 --> 00:40:15,914
Who else?

994
00:40:15,947 --> 00:40:17,449
The unsub we've
been looking for

995
00:40:17,483 --> 00:40:18,950
is Melissa miller,
and we think

996
00:40:18,984 --> 00:40:20,452
she's made one of you
an accomplice

997
00:40:20,486 --> 00:40:22,187
to her murder
of Carl lee.

998
00:40:22,220 --> 00:40:24,556
Rossi: An unwitting accomplice.

999
00:40:24,590 --> 00:40:26,625
We aren't keeping you
in custody.

1000
00:40:26,658 --> 00:40:28,226
Anyone who wants
to leave can,

1001
00:40:28,259 --> 00:40:29,961
and everyone that wanted
representation

1002
00:40:29,995 --> 00:40:31,563
has a lawyer present.

1003
00:40:31,597 --> 00:40:33,865
All we want is for you
to listen to our theory.

1004
00:40:33,899 --> 00:40:36,702
After Carl lee's murder,
Melissa approached one of you

1005
00:40:36,735 --> 00:40:38,504
and she told you
that the US government

1006
00:40:38,537 --> 00:40:40,472
was going to frame
both Bryan and Carl's murder

1007
00:40:40,506 --> 00:40:41,507
on the truthers.

1008
00:40:41,540 --> 00:40:43,809
Right on cue,
we showed up.

1009
00:40:43,842 --> 00:40:46,512
So, she gave you
a box or bag,

1010
00:40:46,545 --> 00:40:47,846
told you
not to look inside,

1011
00:40:47,879 --> 00:40:49,681
said it was all part
of our cover-up.

1012
00:40:49,715 --> 00:40:52,551
What she gave you
was material evidence

1013
00:40:52,584 --> 00:40:53,852
of Carl's murder.

1014
00:40:53,885 --> 00:40:55,754
Now, you can think
what you want of us,

1015
00:40:55,787 --> 00:40:57,923
we are not here
to frame anyone.

1016
00:40:57,956 --> 00:41:00,859
We're not the murderers.
She is.

1017
00:41:00,892 --> 00:41:05,897
Did anyone accept
something like this
from her?

1018
00:41:17,609 --> 00:41:19,678
I did.

1019
00:41:19,711 --> 00:41:22,714
It's--it's at my house.

1020
00:41:34,693 --> 00:41:37,128
You know what that is,
Melissa?

1021
00:41:39,898 --> 00:41:43,935
That is a magic bullet.

1022
00:41:47,606 --> 00:41:49,174
Stand up.

1023
00:41:50,976 --> 00:41:53,645
Melissa miller,
you are under arrest

1024
00:41:53,679 --> 00:41:55,547
for the murder
of Carl lee.

1025
00:41:55,581 --> 00:41:57,849
You have the right
to remain silent.

1026
00:41:57,883 --> 00:42:01,687
You have the right
to an attorney.

1027
00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:07,859
So we faked ourselves
on the ending *

1028
00:42:07,893 --> 00:42:13,565
And breathe in
their lies *

1029
00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:19,571
While the water
brings no cleansing *

1030
00:42:19,605 --> 00:42:24,743
Just reflects
strangers' eyes *

1031
00:42:24,776 --> 00:42:27,679
Lewis: "everyone is entitled
to his own opinion,

1032
00:42:27,713 --> 00:42:29,915
but not to his own facts."

1033
00:42:29,948 --> 00:42:31,950
Daniel Patrick Moynihan.

1034
00:42:31,983 --> 00:42:38,990
Truth was too hard
to mention *