1 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,916 The Hammer men, you just don't know what's hiding 2 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,995 behind their personality or behind their demeanor. 3 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,320 And it's really apparent with Armie. 4 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,196 What's coming out publicly, about the love bombing 5 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,556 and the texting, and the controlling. 6 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,076 I'm not surprised by any of that. 7 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,876 And it weirds and scares a lot of people. 8 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,916 But for me, it's really familiar. 9 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,995 If you believe about making deals with the devil, 10 00:00:42,079 --> 00:00:45,920 the Hammers are top of the totem pole. 11 00:00:51,399 --> 00:00:55,395 After the documentary was announced and before we started filming, 12 00:00:55,479 --> 00:01:01,035 I received a text and it was a friend. She said, 13 00:01:01,119 --> 00:01:03,876 "Casey, be careful. 14 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,560 Seems to me that you are opening Pandora's box. 15 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,196 Don't go out after dark. 16 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,155 Always check to make sure you're not being followed. 17 00:01:14,239 --> 00:01:19,196 Keep your name off a mailbox, unlisted phone, 18 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,715 watch your surroundings for a stranger's face 19 00:01:21,799 --> 00:01:23,359 that appears more than once. 20 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,719 Be "aware" and "beware." 21 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,439 I have this reoccurring dream. 22 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,639 It starts with this motel sign. 23 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:34,400 But in my dream, the motel just keeps going. 24 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,159 Something worse is happening in each room. 25 00:02:43,719 --> 00:02:46,199 And I can't get the fuck out. 26 00:02:51,159 --> 00:02:52,840 And there's no way out. 27 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,319 So you have to go through the whole thing again. 28 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:06,479 The scenario with the ropes in Sedona was six days before I met his mom. 29 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,879 After that, it was horrible. 30 00:03:13,039 --> 00:03:15,115 I completely disassociated. 31 00:03:15,199 --> 00:03:17,756 I wanted to get as far away from him, 32 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,000 as far away from what had happened. 33 00:03:25,159 --> 00:03:26,719 I always keep a journal. 34 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,555 This piece is something I wrote on my way 35 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,555 to my first treatment center on October 5th. 36 00:03:35,639 --> 00:03:37,960 This was on the plane, 37 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,759 "It's 2:25 on the flight to rehab. 38 00:03:45,719 --> 00:03:48,156 Not sure why the fuck I'm going here. 39 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,156 All I know is I don't give a fuck what happens to me. 40 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,879 I don't want to die, I don't think. But I'm not trying not to. 41 00:03:56,719 --> 00:03:59,360 I don't see a way out of this one. 42 00:04:00,479 --> 00:04:03,075 I surrendered to him 100%. 43 00:04:03,159 --> 00:04:05,395 Gave him anything good I had left. 44 00:04:05,479 --> 00:04:07,515 What in the fuck is wrong with you? 45 00:04:07,599 --> 00:04:10,316 He used me in every way possible for months. 46 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,036 And I fucking let him, I feel absolutely numb 47 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,479 and small and disgusting and ugly." 48 00:04:21,639 --> 00:04:23,759 While I was in rehab, 49 00:04:25,959 --> 00:04:31,480 some idiot texted me, "Armie has a new girlfriend." 50 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,759 And I looked her up. 51 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,600 The first thing I thought, she was really young. 52 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,079 She's gorgeous. 53 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,240 But she posted a picture. It was kind of a lingerie picture. 54 00:04:56,759 --> 00:05:02,040 She had bruises all over her arms, her chest, her legs. 55 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,355 I could see the bruises, and I knew what that picture was. 56 00:05:09,439 --> 00:05:11,596 He says wear it like a badge of honor. 57 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,875 My heart fucking sank because I was like, 58 00:05:14,959 --> 00:05:17,755 he'll do this to somebody who's 22 years old. 59 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,076 What he just did to me. I was 30. 60 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,396 She's 22. I know how it is in the beginning. 61 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,875 And I just like I knew what she felt at the time. 62 00:05:26,959 --> 00:05:30,636 She looked so happy, like I was there. 63 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:35,995 He was on to the next one who's younger, maybe more naive, 64 00:05:36,079 --> 00:05:38,836 maybe more impressed with his fame. 65 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:43,555 It was, he was off to do it to her. 66 00:05:43,639 --> 00:05:46,716 I had just got out of a two-year-long relationship 67 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,355 and I moved to LA. I'd never been to LA before. 68 00:05:49,439 --> 00:05:52,156 That was my second time ever going. 69 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,476 My first impressions of him were charming, 70 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,875 he captivated the room. 71 00:05:58,959 --> 00:06:05,036 He was just full of life, loving, charismatic, kind of the person 72 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,276 that we see in the interviews and the person that we see on screen. 73 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:14,636 He really was so all consuming, and he made me feel like 74 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,276 it was a safe space, and this was normal. 75 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,795 It felt like it was going to be fun and sexy. 76 00:06:19,879 --> 00:06:25,076 He carried safety pins, Shibari rope, knives, 77 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:31,476 like a paddle, a lot of the BDSM tools. 78 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,276 He would always travel with it wherever he went 79 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,519 and whenever he came over to my home in LA. 80 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:43,519 He said he wanted to find a doctor in Los Angeles to remove my ribs. 81 00:06:46,199 --> 00:06:49,555 He wanted to eat my ribs, he wanted to smoke them. 82 00:06:49,639 --> 00:06:51,076 He's obsessed with meat. 83 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,560 I brushed it off, but I do believe that he was serious. 84 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,076 He would set up things called "high protocol nights." 85 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,555 You set up a night with strict rules and it's all built around 86 00:07:03,639 --> 00:07:08,160 inflicting pain on the submissive one in the relationship, which was me. 87 00:07:10,199 --> 00:07:14,360 I didn't know what BDSM was. So I thought that that was normal. 88 00:07:16,759 --> 00:07:19,956 To me, it's obvious that Armie Hammer chose people 89 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,435 who didn't have any experience in BDSM 90 00:07:22,519 --> 00:07:26,879 because it gives him an advantage to prey upon these people. 91 00:07:28,639 --> 00:07:33,720 They're more easily coerced because they don't know what BDSM really is. 92 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,636 I had no idea what I was getting into 93 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,920 and looking back, it's like very dangerous. 94 00:07:44,199 --> 00:07:48,956 The traditional motto of BDSM is "safe, sane and consensual." 95 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,435 Most commonly in the dom/sub relationship, 96 00:07:52,519 --> 00:07:56,795 the scenes are all centered around the sub's fantasies. 97 00:07:56,879 --> 00:07:58,916 Safety and trust are right there. 98 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,439 It's the foundation of the BDSM relationship. 99 00:08:02,639 --> 00:08:05,516 On one of these high protocol nights, I was tied up 100 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,795 and he basically looked over my body and said to me, 101 00:08:08,879 --> 00:08:11,315 "Where should I put my initials on you?" 102 00:08:11,399 --> 00:08:14,916 And then he just started to carve his initial into me 103 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,920 and I just didn't say anything. 104 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,476 It was bleeding and he was licking it, 105 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,399 drinking kind of like the blood. 106 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:27,920 Yeah. That's heavy. 107 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,675 The part that stands out is him coming to her 108 00:08:33,759 --> 00:08:36,276 and said, where should I put my initials? 109 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,075 And then he just proceeded to cut her. 110 00:08:39,159 --> 00:08:42,916 So there was no negotiations before the scene about it. 111 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:48,276 She is in a very vulnerable position because she is feeling submissive. 112 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,675 She's in a state of wanting to please him. 113 00:08:50,759 --> 00:08:52,279 She doesn't want to say no. 114 00:08:53,519 --> 00:08:56,595 I was in a weak position. He was in a position of power. 115 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,236 He knew how uncomfortable it made me, but I just never said no. 116 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,756 I think being coerced into things 117 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,315 and we don't want to say no, we don't want to be undesirable. 118 00:09:06,399 --> 00:09:08,595 It's traumatizing. 119 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,916 I was vulnerable. 120 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,200 I was groomed by him. 121 00:09:16,159 --> 00:09:20,675 Someone who's getting off on somebody else's fear, 122 00:09:20,759 --> 00:09:25,396 when that person feels uncomfortable about it, 123 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,039 is not a kinkster doing BDSM. 124 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,759 That person is an abuser. 125 00:09:35,519 --> 00:09:39,675 That's very sad to think about when you look back 126 00:09:39,759 --> 00:09:42,036 you realize it was abuse and manipulation. 127 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,475 It wasn't somebody that cared for you 128 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,840 and you fell into their trap so gracefully. 129 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,960 When the abuse allegations came out, 130 00:10:03,399 --> 00:10:06,639 it was a mixture of shocked and not shocked. 131 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,159 I had an opportunity to work with Armie Hammer. 132 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,835 What I had experienced was nothing compared to what 133 00:10:20,919 --> 00:10:22,795 they had experienced, 134 00:10:22,879 --> 00:10:25,559 but the same kind of qualities were there. 135 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,276 Basically every story I have to tell about him can be rooted in 136 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,759 I control you because you're my employee. 137 00:10:33,879 --> 00:10:36,919 Armie puts on this beautiful face to everybody. 138 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:42,036 We're trying to make a damn movie. Everybody needs to calm down. 139 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,516 You could work with him the entire movie 140 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,000 and never see through that façade. 141 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:51,799 Behind closed doors, it's different. 142 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,236 There was one instance where he told me this old friend of his 143 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,715 was coming and he wanted me to go to airport 144 00:11:00,799 --> 00:11:04,636 and hold up a sign in the airport that said, "faggot." 145 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,595 I have chills thinking about it right now. 146 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:12,636 If I said no to him about something, he'd try and find ways to shame me, 147 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,320 and this time he took a poll from everybody. 148 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,600 Should I fire him because he won't do what I told him to do? 149 00:11:22,399 --> 00:11:26,396 It was a big joke or whatever, and he kept really pushing 150 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,519 because he thought it'd be funny. 151 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,916 We ended up at a strip club once. 152 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,715 10:00 a.m. on a Tuesday. 153 00:11:34,799 --> 00:11:38,195 Me and Armie and other actors and other crew members 154 00:11:38,279 --> 00:11:42,675 and lording his position and my position over my head, 155 00:11:42,759 --> 00:11:46,236 forced me into getting a lap dance. 156 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,276 I was very against it, I didn't want to do it, 157 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,876 I felt incredibly uncomfortable, but he basically ended up again 158 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,756 saying, "I'm your superior, you need to do this." 159 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:01,080 And so he made me believe that I had no choice. 160 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,756 I could have walked away 161 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,795 but you just get scared of the stature of it all, 162 00:12:07,879 --> 00:12:11,756 the job title and the person. 163 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,555 - Do you do dangerous things? - Yeah, I like to. 164 00:12:14,639 --> 00:12:16,240 It just snowballed. 165 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,955 We would get into his car and we would do 140 miles an hour, 166 00:12:22,039 --> 00:12:25,996 like through residential streets while he was inebriated. 167 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,195 And it would scare me like crazy. 168 00:12:29,279 --> 00:12:33,236 My wife was convinced that I had what she called 169 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:38,435 a frontal lobe issue, which I guess, she says that's where you assess risk 170 00:12:38,519 --> 00:12:42,516 and danger. And she says mine is just severely underdeveloped. 171 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:47,840 It was this daredevil machismo and exerting power. 172 00:12:51,399 --> 00:12:53,955 I want to be helpful to people that need it. 173 00:12:54,039 --> 00:12:57,876 There are a lot of women that have had their lives 174 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,919 irreparably damaged by all of this. 175 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,276 It's like Dante's Inferno. 176 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,955 It's going to get worse, the deeper down you go. 177 00:13:08,039 --> 00:13:10,840 At the bottom it’s just Armie. 178 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,955 I knew Armie came from wealth. 179 00:13:17,039 --> 00:13:21,675 There are stories about his connection to Armand Hammer. 180 00:13:21,759 --> 00:13:25,795 I would say, had I chosen to sort of follow the family's path 181 00:13:25,879 --> 00:13:28,840 and gone in business it'd have been more advantageous. 182 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,516 He told me about growing up in the Caymans 183 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,876 and how his father bought a mansion there 184 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,156 because he had seen The Firm. 185 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,279 That's rich people shit. 186 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:50,075 I feel like with wealthy families, there's always a dark story there. 187 00:13:50,159 --> 00:13:54,000 No one can ever be totally normal when you have that much wealth. 188 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,519 And Armie’s father is the picture-perfect example of that. 189 00:14:05,519 --> 00:14:08,555 Michael and Dru basically walked away with everything 190 00:14:08,639 --> 00:14:10,240 after my grandfather died. 191 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,156 They took control of the Hammer Foundation, 192 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,559 his estate, and millions of dollars. 193 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:29,315 There were famous rabbis at his funeral and he literally 194 00:14:29,399 --> 00:14:32,675 was supposed to have bar mitzvah the day after he died. 195 00:14:32,759 --> 00:14:36,555 Dru’s father in the middle of Armand Hammer's funeral 196 00:14:36,639 --> 00:14:40,075 declared Armand had changed his religion 197 00:14:40,159 --> 00:14:42,320 and accepted Jesus on his death bed. 198 00:14:44,879 --> 00:14:50,396 Dru's father says that before Armand died, he said, 199 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,559 "I accept Christ." 200 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:59,120 And all these people's jaws just fell open. 201 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,595 Michael Hammer had $40 million in that trust 202 00:15:08,679 --> 00:15:11,756 and he is now taking Armand's funds 203 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,200 and putting them into all of these evangelical causes, 204 00:15:17,039 --> 00:15:20,475 Christian organizations and Christian universities. 205 00:15:20,559 --> 00:15:24,276 It feels like he rewrote the script for his grandfather 206 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,955 and it just doesn't seem like things are being handled in the way 207 00:15:28,039 --> 00:15:29,840 Armand would have wanted. 208 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:36,315 Michael technically worked for Occidental for like another year. 209 00:15:36,399 --> 00:15:38,039 And then he left Oxy. 210 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,600 Michael didn’t want to carry on the name for my grandfather at all. 211 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,396 You have Michael, 212 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,715 who is the most Christian man out there to the public, 213 00:15:52,799 --> 00:15:55,036 but at the same time, behind the scenes, 214 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,879 it’s clear to me that there was some bad behavior. 215 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,675 Hang on to your hats, guys. 216 00:16:01,759 --> 00:16:05,475 The Armie Hammer article dropped and the tea is piping hot. 217 00:16:05,559 --> 00:16:08,756 Michael Hammer, Armie’s father, seems he passed down 218 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,679 some of his proclivities to his son. 219 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,116 The sex throne, I heard about a confirmed photo... 220 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,116 so, it's seven feet tall... 221 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:27,795 and there's also the Hammer insignia, their family crest on the throne. 222 00:16:27,879 --> 00:16:31,756 People claimed that Michael boasted about a sex throne or naughty chair, 223 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,475 and kept it Hammer foundation headquarters. 224 00:16:34,559 --> 00:16:36,996 It is 7 feet high and features a chair 225 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,236 with a hole in the seat and a cage underneath and a hook. 226 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,595 There's a hook, like a meat hook, 227 00:16:42,679 --> 00:16:47,276 and I... almost don't even want to imagine 228 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,396 what somebody would do with this. 229 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,876 In a photo Michael sits on it grinning 230 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,356 while holding the head of a blonde woman, 231 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,475 sitting in the cage, also smiling. 232 00:16:56,559 --> 00:16:59,916 Michael's lawyer came out and said that this was a gag gift. 233 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,996 It seems like large gag gift 234 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,316 and a customized gag gift to give. 235 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:10,160 Sex thrones most certainly do not align with a Christian image. 236 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,275 "Like father, like son." 237 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,599 It’s such a façade. 238 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,836 I think we’re all seeing the pattern. 239 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,400 It’s just generation to generation. 240 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,836 We all know Armie’s public persona. 241 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:37,160 His team and his family kind of curates this image around him. 242 00:17:41,559 --> 00:17:45,116 The Hammers are very keen on presenting themselves 243 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,675 for public consumption in a certain way. 244 00:17:47,759 --> 00:17:52,636 And so Armie Hammer used the same practices as his father, 245 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:57,715 Michael, and his great-grandfather, Armand Hammer. 246 00:17:57,799 --> 00:18:00,799 You don’t see what’s going on behind the curtain. 247 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,160 Armand Hammer had many secrets. 248 00:18:10,279 --> 00:18:13,916 When Armand Hammer died, to my surprise, 249 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,400 Julian Hammer gave me a great deal of material. 250 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,755 He gave me all his private papers. 251 00:18:24,839 --> 00:18:27,240 As well as recordings of his father. 252 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,916 I think that it was because, very simply spoken, 253 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:40,720 he hated what his father had done in cutting him out of his will. 254 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:47,279 He decided that he was going to expose his father as a criminal. 255 00:18:51,079 --> 00:18:54,556 Occidental would’ve been a small oil company 256 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,675 which we wouldn’t even know the name today, 257 00:18:57,759 --> 00:19:02,319 except Hammer was a master at bribery. 258 00:19:05,039 --> 00:19:07,799 Armand Hammer would go to a powerful person. 259 00:19:11,839 --> 00:19:16,279 He would offer them money, illegal cash bribes. 260 00:19:17,759 --> 00:19:19,680 He would deliver the money. 261 00:19:22,759 --> 00:19:27,475 And Julian would record the entire crime being committed 262 00:19:27,559 --> 00:19:29,920 so he could later blackmail the person. 263 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,396 When this thing is done, how much do we pay? 264 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,675 In total amount of money? Three million dollars. 265 00:19:36,759 --> 00:19:38,836 I guess that money talks! 266 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,156 Very little shocks me, I should say. 267 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,396 But the tapes he gave me shocked me. 268 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,076 Who is the collector? 269 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:49,636 The collector has changed and is now the president's secretary. 270 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:55,240 That’s the President of Venezuela he is bribing. 271 00:19:58,559 --> 00:20:02,116 Hammer had no shame. 272 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,235 He ignored all laws. 273 00:20:04,319 --> 00:20:07,396 Armand Hammer built his own business empire 274 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,640 on a great number of great crimes. 275 00:20:11,799 --> 00:20:15,195 The extraordinary thing about the Hammer family 276 00:20:15,279 --> 00:20:20,640 is the consistency of vice over virtue. 277 00:20:31,079 --> 00:20:34,759 I shall resign the presidency, effective at noon tomorrow. 278 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,235 In the movie All the President's Men, 279 00:20:41,319 --> 00:20:44,356 which was about the Watergate scandal, 280 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,836 Deep Throat says, "Follow the money." 281 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:53,200 If they did, they would've found that it led to Armand Hammer. 282 00:20:56,839 --> 00:21:02,796 Hammer made illegal campaign contributions to politicians. 283 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:07,035 I saw it first-hand that the political establishment 284 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,640 is buyable from top to bottom. 285 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,839 This money was used to pay off the Watergate burglars. 286 00:21:18,559 --> 00:21:22,876 Hammer orchestrated a cover up where other people lied. 287 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,680 And when that collapsed, 288 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,440 Hammer had to plead guilty to a misdemeanor. 289 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,796 Today, Hammer pleaded guilty of hiding contributions 290 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,799 to the Nixon re-election campaign. 291 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,559 Having an outstanding conviction was bad for business, 292 00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:49,755 and he saw creating a relationship with Prince Charles... 293 00:21:49,839 --> 00:21:52,995 "I am indebted to Dr. Hammer." 294 00:21:53,079 --> 00:21:56,680 ...as a way of making himself respectable again. 295 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,475 He knew that everybody has a price. 296 00:22:02,559 --> 00:22:07,559 With Prince Charles he just had to discover what that price would be. 297 00:22:09,599 --> 00:22:13,275 When Prince Charles and Diana visited the United States, 298 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,995 their only unofficial non-state occasion 299 00:22:18,079 --> 00:22:20,519 was the gala that Hammer threw for them. 300 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,316 On the front pages of every newspaper, 301 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,960 every magazine their visit was the top story. 302 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:37,316 And in the end Hammer provided 40 million pounds 303 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,475 to Prince Charles's causes, which would add up 304 00:22:40,559 --> 00:22:43,076 to like a quarter of a billion today. 305 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,356 And Charles did see Hammer as a source 306 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,876 of funds for everything he cared about. 307 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:57,559 How on Earth, do they expect us to get anything done without money? 308 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,400 I will faithfully execute the office of president of the United States. 309 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:18,316 George Bush Sr. did give him a pardon over the Watergate scandal. 310 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,035 Why did Bush pardon him? 311 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,079 Hammer was a major contributor to both political parties. 312 00:23:25,319 --> 00:23:28,515 Hammer told me his private golden rule was 313 00:23:28,599 --> 00:23:31,240 the person with the gold makes the rules. 314 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,880 I had reservations about the way he presented himself. 315 00:23:40,759 --> 00:23:47,359 But it was only really from '88 that my eyes were fully open 316 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,796 to the lying on which his life was based. 317 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,955 Now the situation in the North Sea 318 00:23:55,039 --> 00:23:57,559 where an Occidental Petroleum oil rig blew up. 319 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,755 Piper Alpha was a platform owned by Occidental in the North Sea. 320 00:24:02,839 --> 00:24:06,396 It was the cornerstone of Occidental's wealth. 321 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,519 Mayday mayday. Explosion and fire on the Piper... 322 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,916 In July 1988, there was an accident on Piper Alpha, 323 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,916 which was the worst accident on an offshore platform 324 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,400 in the world, ever. 325 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:28,396 The ensuing fire was so severe, half the platform collapsed. 326 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,920 167 people died. 327 00:24:33,079 --> 00:24:37,235 Within minutes, the first London newspapers were on the phone 328 00:24:37,319 --> 00:24:40,076 calling me asking if I knew anything. 329 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:45,916 And I started to think about how I could serve Armand Hammer 330 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,480 in these circumstances. 331 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,475 I said to Hammer, be the spokesman for the corporation. 332 00:24:54,559 --> 00:24:59,119 Don't duck away. The worst thing you can do is hide. 333 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:07,035 There were hundreds of journalists, and Hammer took the stage 334 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,755 and just gave the performance of his life. 335 00:25:09,839 --> 00:25:12,275 But how do you feel personally about it? 336 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:13,720 I feel very sad. 337 00:25:15,079 --> 00:25:18,796 He was sad, he was brave, he fronted up, 338 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,955 he said the buck stops with me. 339 00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:22,955 Which was a complete falsehood. 340 00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:26,396 The press completely swallowed it. 341 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,316 There was not one skeptical question. 342 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:35,836 Nobody said to him, this platform has a deplorable safety record. 343 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,916 There’s already been one man killed in recent years, 344 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,876 there was a mass evacuation. 345 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:47,759 He got off the way he intended and in the way that I had devised. 346 00:25:51,319 --> 00:25:53,275 We went to the airport. 347 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,116 Prince Charles and Princess Diana came to the airport to meet him. 348 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,636 They came striding towards him with their faces 349 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,759 a kind of picture of sorrow and grief. 350 00:26:03,799 --> 00:26:06,755 Prince Charles had his hand out to shake Hammer's hand. 351 00:26:06,839 --> 00:26:09,799 He said, "You mustn't blame yourself." 352 00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:17,675 We got on the plane, and Hammer called to the guys 353 00:26:17,759 --> 00:26:21,680 and he said, "Let's have champagne and caviar. We've had a great day." 354 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,160 So to enlist Prince Charles, as his supporter paid off. 355 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,076 There were no direct consequences whatsoever 356 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,356 in terms of punishments for Armand Hammer 357 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,960 or the board of Occidental. 358 00:26:44,839 --> 00:26:46,359 Nothing at all. 359 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:58,356 Hammer took no interest whatsoever in the survivors 360 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,319 or their families, the families of the dead. 361 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:08,079 I go back every 10 years for the 10th anniversary 362 00:27:09,799 --> 00:27:14,680 memorial services and ceremonies around Piper Alpha. 363 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,480 And you see there... 364 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,316 children who didn't know their fathers, 365 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,559 grandchildren who didn't know their grandparents. 366 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,755 There was no moral defense for what I’d done. 367 00:27:33,839 --> 00:27:38,755 After Piper Alpha, I decided to get out of my degrading position 368 00:27:38,839 --> 00:27:41,359 with Hammer as fast as I could. 369 00:27:49,319 --> 00:27:51,556 I think he was the most satanic man 370 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,079 of the second half of the 20th century. 371 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,240 In terms of corrupting the political process, 372 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,400 in terms of controlling people and making them dance his tune, 373 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,079 there is no comparison. 374 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,275 Armand Hammer was the embodiment of sin, 375 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,559 because he was the embodiment of ruthless ego. 376 00:28:35,839 --> 00:28:41,356 After my grandfather died, I gave up my career, quit my job, 377 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,356 I came back to Los Angeles and moved in with my father. 378 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,596 My father was out of control. 379 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,596 He slowly started deteriorating. 380 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,556 He would come downstairs and he was foaming at the mouth, 381 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,720 which later I found out was meth and coke and all kinds of drugs. 382 00:29:01,599 --> 00:29:04,400 He would be carrying a loaded .357 magnum, 383 00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:10,116 he would wake me up with a gun barrel on my temple, 384 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,275 and make me open my eyes, 385 00:29:12,359 --> 00:29:16,596 and say, "I need to look in your eyes to see if you're possessed, 386 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,400 because if you're possessed, I'm pulling the trigger. 387 00:29:23,559 --> 00:29:28,396 He would have sane moments, and then totally volatile moments 388 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,079 where he was going crazy and he wasn’t getting help. 389 00:29:36,279 --> 00:29:39,116 And this went on for months. 390 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,955 I just knew that I needed to get out of there. 391 00:29:42,039 --> 00:29:44,076 And so then I moved out. 392 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,275 It was just a way to protect myself. 393 00:29:46,359 --> 00:29:49,475 - Hi, Casey! - Come on in. 394 00:29:49,559 --> 00:29:51,076 Watch your step. 395 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,515 I tried to move forward and make a name for myself. 396 00:29:54,599 --> 00:29:56,279 Welcome to my home. 397 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,796 A friend of mine was a producer for a local news station 398 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,839 and she was doing a piece called Victim No More. 399 00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:12,235 I wanted to be an actress. 400 00:30:12,319 --> 00:30:15,440 You can scream Case. Whatever you... Action. 401 00:30:16,839 --> 00:30:18,559 Someone came up from behind me. 402 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,119 Get out! Get out of the car! 403 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,035 Something visceral was happening in my body 404 00:30:29,119 --> 00:30:32,079 and I was so afraid that he was gonna kill me or hurt me. 405 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,880 Something took over inside of me and I hurt him. 406 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,839 Ah, goddamit. 407 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,359 I realized I needed help. 408 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,076 I went to a psychologist in Beverly Hills, 409 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,515 and I remember walking into his office 410 00:31:04,599 --> 00:31:06,876 and I said, "Hi, my name is Casey Hammer. 411 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,359 My grandfather was Armand Hammer, and I'm really fucked up." 412 00:31:11,839 --> 00:31:13,440 And we started... 413 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,920 and then the memories started happening when I was in therapy. 414 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,319 The floodgates opened. 415 00:31:24,599 --> 00:31:30,356 I remembered one particular incident, where there was a lot of noise 416 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:35,440 and party going on, my brother was there as well, 417 00:31:37,319 --> 00:31:41,680 my father started shooting at the walls. 418 00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:48,116 And then my father was like "Wait, I've got an idea," 419 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,876 and said to me, "Casey, hold this phone book." 420 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:58,200 And I did it thinking, "They’re not going to shoot at me." 421 00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:03,240 So the phonebook was held up right to my head. 422 00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:12,200 I dropped the phonebook. 423 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,880 I remember taking cover. 424 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:36,799 I started remembering all the abuse, being choked 425 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,400 and suffocated. 426 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,156 And I thought, "This can't be... something's weird." 427 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:52,556 I remember talking to my mom and started saying to her 428 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,916 what I was remembering and hoping she would tell me, 429 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,116 "Oh, you're just crazy." 430 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,435 But it turns out she did know about it. 431 00:33:00,519 --> 00:33:03,440 And what I was remembering was actually happening. 432 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,076 Things happened to me 433 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,680 that shouldn’t ever have happened to a child. 434 00:33:11,119 --> 00:33:14,039 Casey, was your father sexually abusing you? 435 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,836 Yes. 436 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,359 And... 437 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,759 that's all I've ever said because... 438 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,796 maybe he's the only person I want to see when, 439 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,836 I don’t even think he is in heaven 440 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,640 or on the other side or whatever you believe, but... 441 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,559 and that’s how I know that it is so deep and so... 442 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,599 I don't know if I'll ever be normal, because... 443 00:33:54,079 --> 00:33:59,319 the fact that I still think he'll save me or be there for me. 444 00:34:01,079 --> 00:34:07,195 I found out what my father was doing and I never confronted him 445 00:34:07,279 --> 00:34:10,960 because I didn't want to hear him say the words. 446 00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:15,676 There's that hope that the person's going to change 447 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,679 and that they didn't mean to hurt you. 448 00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:26,239 My father ended up dying in ’96, five years after my grandfather died. 449 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,635 But... 450 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:35,435 it's still so hard because you want to share your backstory. 451 00:34:35,519 --> 00:34:39,440 You want to explain why you're fucked up, and broken. 452 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,159 The generation I grew up in, it was closed door. 453 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,559 But you know, it's a different time. 454 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:59,236 It was my sentiment with Courtney, it's incredibly brave nowadays, 455 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,760 because not only are you traumatized from what he's done, 456 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,475 but you're probably traumatized over and over and over. 457 00:35:09,559 --> 00:35:11,440 But he needs to be held accountable. 458 00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:17,239 And I hope she finds peace and whatever that means for her. 459 00:35:24,159 --> 00:35:26,075 I went to a residential rehab. 460 00:35:26,159 --> 00:35:29,995 It was based on what you were struggling with which, 461 00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:31,880 they placed me in the trauma lodge. 462 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,960 I had a specialty therapist 463 00:35:36,199 --> 00:35:38,716 she was like, "What's the last time you felt 464 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:43,320 really uncomfortable, really embarrassed, really afraid?" 465 00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:48,280 And I went into the night. 466 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,960 I remembered the music that was playing really vividly. 467 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:03,000 I remembered the feeling of the ropes on my wrist. 468 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,876 It was just very surreal. 469 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:13,199 I felt like I was back in that room, back in that moment. 470 00:36:17,679 --> 00:36:20,599 I got diagnosed with trauma and PTSD. 471 00:36:21,639 --> 00:36:26,559 My therapist said I had to repeat, I was used, abused and abandoned. 472 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,316 So you're trying to make sense of what happened. 473 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,836 And that's what she had me repeat over and over, 474 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,316 it's not your fault you feel this way. 475 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,716 It stuck with me. And it really made sense. 476 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,276 That's truly what happened, I was used abused, abandoned, 477 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,559 just discarded, after having my life turned inside out. 478 00:36:51,519 --> 00:36:54,196 Armie Hammer’s ex-girlfriend, Courtney Vucekovic" 479 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,756 "Armie Hammer’s accounts are going viral" 480 00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,236 "...has come forward with claims against her ex, Armie Hammer" 481 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,716 When this all blew up, Paige messaged me on Instagram. 482 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,155 I sent her my number and she called me. 483 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,276 First thing she said was, why didn't you tell me? 484 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,995 And then she told me her story and it's like, holy shit! 485 00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:17,475 It is a copy paste. 486 00:37:17,559 --> 00:37:22,196 The same road trip, the same motel, 487 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,435 we wore the same cowboy hat in our pictures, 488 00:37:25,519 --> 00:37:29,236 we both watched that movie, the Secretary. 489 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,916 I sent her the album that he played 490 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,676 when he was tying me up, traumatizing me. 491 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,356 She goes, he played the same album to her. 492 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,955 She was like, does he call you little thing? 493 00:37:43,039 --> 00:37:46,475 I said, yeah, perfect little thing. She was like, yeah. 494 00:37:46,559 --> 00:37:50,196 He says the same, called us the same nicknames. 495 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,236 She met his mom. She went home with him. 496 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,595 I mean, who just introduces everyone to their mom? 497 00:37:56,679 --> 00:37:59,995 They'd known each other a month. I had met her weeks prior. 498 00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:04,716 We had the same relationship, and I would almost guarantee 499 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,356 there was another one that day, he was going to do it again to. 500 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,515 And he was going to continue the cycle, 501 00:38:11,599 --> 00:38:15,960 this destructive cycle until he couldn't anymore. 502 00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:25,356 To Armie Hammer, and some good news for him involving 503 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,716 one of the allegations against him, an allegation of rape. 504 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,480 It is looking like that is not going to result in charges. 505 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,196 It’s a huge slap in the face to see something like this. 506 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,280 I am in shock, but I’m not surprised. 507 00:38:41,039 --> 00:38:46,276 I can assure you that when TMZ made that report, 508 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,115 the case had not yet been sent to the district attorney, 509 00:38:50,199 --> 00:38:51,599 let alone dropped. 510 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:57,119 TMZ never even checked with me before they ran that story. 511 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,679 It's a common PR tactic, quite frankly. 512 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,916 It's like, okay, I'm going to own up to having a problem, 513 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,880 so I'm going to try to rectify it. 514 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,676 Seems Armie Hammer has quietly hired a new PR person, hear me out. 515 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,876 This was front page on the Daily Mail this morning on snapchat, 516 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,876 that this new girl, Lisa Perejma, has turned Armie Hammer’s life around. 517 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,639 Article says, Armie is happier and healthier than I’ve seen him. 518 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:57,159 I think rehab was his steppingstone trying to rebrand his image. 519 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,955 The same week that Death on the Nile is coming out, 520 00:40:09,039 --> 00:40:12,236 an article saying that Armie has done so much work in rehab 521 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,719 came out, right before the movie. 522 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:47,756 Cancel culture is on peoples' tongues way more than rape culture, 523 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,356 and rape culture is a much bigger issue. 524 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,316 Cancel culture wouldn't exist 525 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,800 if rape culture wasn't such a big issue. 526 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,595 I think at the end of the day, PR will win the situation. 527 00:41:14,679 --> 00:41:17,515 Hollywood is built on money, and obviously, 528 00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:20,155 He comes from a family that was built on money. 529 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,960 So if Armie can find a way to make somebody money, 530 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,836 then why couldn't he possibly work? 531 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,555 I think that we all expect he’s not going to get in trouble. 532 00:41:31,639 --> 00:41:33,316 We all know there’s no justice 533 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,955 when it comes to people with this much power. 534 00:41:36,039 --> 00:41:37,716 I'm sure there are people, 535 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,515 especially in this town, who look at who I am or my family 536 00:41:41,599 --> 00:41:43,515 and that's why he got the part. 537 00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:45,035 Generation to generation, 538 00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:48,155 they have had a history of doing what they want 539 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,916 and getting away with it because of the power and money 540 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,236 that they have and that's pretty intimidating. 541 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,316 Every generation, every period of humanity has always dealt 542 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,995 with the same shit, we'll always deal with that. 543 00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:04,880 We just wear different clothes when we do it. 544 00:42:09,519 --> 00:42:12,676 I'm really grateful Armie and I didn't meet up. 545 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,836 By the time that we got to January and I had seen 546 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,276 he had been doing this for years, that's when I realized 547 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,079 how close to danger I really was. 548 00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:26,396 A lot of the press was just all about all of the roles he had lost. 549 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,796 And that was very frustrating to me. 550 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:33,356 My intention was to bring back 551 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:38,960 to the conversation the abuses that this person has inflicted. 552 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,039 I felt like art was the way for me to speak to this issue. 553 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:55,115 So, I decided to make art pieces from my conversations with Armie. 554 00:42:55,199 --> 00:42:58,155 Going back to the messages was something I had avoided. 555 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,356 But when I did, I did it from a place of power. 556 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,716 The first two pieces that I made painted a good picture 557 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,595 about the intersection between wealth, predation, 558 00:43:07,679 --> 00:43:09,475 and abuse of power. 559 00:43:09,559 --> 00:43:11,515 Here I posted this meme, 560 00:43:11,599 --> 00:43:15,356 about the greatest wealth transfer we've seen in history of humankind. 561 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:20,676 It says, "Trying to enjoy the weekend without fear of impending doom." 562 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,916 This was in August of 2020, 563 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,756 so this is still during the height of the pandemic. 564 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,400 I said, "Eat the rich for real, nom, nom, nom," 565 00:43:30,679 --> 00:43:36,316 and then Armie reacted to my story, slid right in, "100%," 566 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,475 which is ironic, because he comes from 567 00:43:38,559 --> 00:43:41,276 one of the wealthiest families on the planet. 568 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,716 He said, "Dibs on the glute muscles and ribs for smoking." 569 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,719 In light of everything that's come out since, 570 00:43:50,559 --> 00:43:55,995 I don't find that funny and him mirroring my frustrations 571 00:43:56,079 --> 00:43:58,876 is a way for him to say that he's just like me. 572 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,119 It's a way to gain my trust and for me to let my guard down. 573 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,876 I'm quite vocal on my Instagram about my background 574 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,079 of having grown up in foster care. 575 00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:15,515 I wouldn't be surprised if he had read that, 576 00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:17,916 and thought, "Oh, okay, she's vulnerable." 577 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,075 We spoke about my past history of abuse 578 00:44:21,159 --> 00:44:23,316 and he very openly confided 579 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,360 about almost getting into a fistfight with his father in the islands, 580 00:44:29,119 --> 00:44:34,196 and his father drinking and taking Vicodin at the same time. 581 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,159 He painted a pretty chaotic picture. 582 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,796 But it wasn't coming from a place of good intention. 583 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:45,356 It was coming from a place to manipulate and figure out 584 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,995 what tools that then he could use to keep you under control 585 00:44:49,079 --> 00:44:51,719 or use them against you in the future. 586 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,955 When I came forward about my experiences with him, 587 00:44:58,039 --> 00:45:00,196 there was a lot of online harassment. 588 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:05,756 If you're just some troll, in a dark room, just spewing hate 589 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,115 towards other people who are doing shit with their lives, 590 00:45:09,199 --> 00:45:12,320 I'm not going to let someone like that get to me. 591 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,836 I went in this not understanding the fandom 592 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,519 that was Call Me By Your Name, 593 00:45:21,159 --> 00:45:25,119 but the Charmies are essentially super fans of Armie Hammer. 594 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:31,000 The women that have come forward, they target in a very big way. 595 00:45:34,639 --> 00:45:38,475 Shame on them. If any of them would like to show their faces, 596 00:45:38,559 --> 00:45:40,519 I would love to know who you are. 597 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,239 One of the hardest times of my life was that news coming out. 598 00:45:47,159 --> 00:45:50,280 I started getting harassed by his diehard fans. 599 00:45:56,079 --> 00:45:59,035 I mean, they really hit you where it hurts. 600 00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:03,796 They have endless chatrooms about what to do to me. 601 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,876 They would text my personal phone number. 602 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:11,876 They would send me pictures of my apartment building I lived in. 603 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,000 They would send me death threats. 604 00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:18,595 I moved out of my apartment, I bought a house, 605 00:46:18,679 --> 00:46:20,559 and I put cameras all over. 606 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,276 The "charmies" made my life hell. 607 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,920 They want you to break so bad. 608 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:40,236 Fear is the weapon that keeps victims 609 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,876 emotionally paralyzed. 610 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:49,356 It's very hard, because once the victim 611 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,159 enters that dangerous world of the court of public opinion, 612 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,236 there is generally going to be some backlash 613 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:02,519 that they didn't expect how ugly it could be out there. 614 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,276 - Nice to meet you. Can I hug you? - Yes, absolutely. 615 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,356 - How are you? - I’m good, how are you? 616 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:16,719 I’m okay. 617 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,955 How are you handling everything? 618 00:47:24,039 --> 00:47:26,796 Um, it comes in waves. 619 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:32,595 I think I can say now that I'm out of it, looking back, 620 00:47:32,679 --> 00:47:35,595 I'm a lot stronger than I was. 621 00:47:35,679 --> 00:47:38,796 And I've learned a lot from what I experienced. 622 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:43,995 And I learned a lot about how to avoid people like that. 623 00:47:44,079 --> 00:47:46,396 It's one of those things where it continues 624 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,756 and until someone breaks the cycle 625 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,716 and it's so important for someone like you, 626 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:57,756 who's very intelligent, successful to let people know 627 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,396 - it can happen to anybody. - It's so common. 628 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,035 The way we grew up, it was secretive in a sense. 629 00:48:04,119 --> 00:48:09,716 And now for me with social media, like I can't even imagine 630 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,239 when I see someone like you up against this dynasty... 631 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:20,239 that have gotten away with this for so long. 632 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,356 Before the internet, it was difficult 633 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:31,155 for women who were used and abused to speak out. 634 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,119 They felt silenced and, in fact, they were silenced. 635 00:48:35,639 --> 00:48:39,800 Now with the internet, many women refuse to suffer in silence, 636 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,356 and speak out against those who have used, abused, 637 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,515 and manipulated them. 638 00:48:48,599 --> 00:48:51,356 My hope that speaking out about the abuse endured 639 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:55,075 at the hands of Armie Hammer is that he will be held accountable. 640 00:48:55,159 --> 00:48:57,876 They want their voices to be heard. 641 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,316 For many of them, they want to warn other women. 642 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:06,155 They have a feeling they can’t undo the wrong that was done to them, 643 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,236 but maybe they can protect someone else’s daughter. 644 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,679 That’s why they speak out. 645 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,880 While I say that these charmies were being horrible, 646 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,555 I had thousands of people message me, like women, 647 00:49:21,639 --> 00:49:24,679 they were like I had this exact same thing happen. 648 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,196 Everybody was relating. It gives me chills because 649 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,635 I got the saddest, most real, vulnerable messages, 650 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:37,035 of everyone being like, "It’s toxic, I’m getting out." 651 00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:40,035 I was willing to open up about it 652 00:49:40,119 --> 00:49:42,679 to help people avoid a situation like this. 653 00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:47,916 There was a thousand messages that were like okay, 654 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,079 well, something good came out of this. 655 00:49:52,199 --> 00:49:55,115 You want people to recognize these abusive patterns. 656 00:49:55,199 --> 00:49:57,035 I feel like then it changes. 657 00:49:57,119 --> 00:49:59,995 You feel good because it is for the right reasons. 658 00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:02,920 - Not because you're bitter or sad. - Absolutely. 659 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,276 So much of what Courtney echoes 660 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,836 is what I continue to struggle with. 661 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,159 And mine was a long time ago. 662 00:50:16,159 --> 00:50:19,155 I was sent a letter recently by my brother, 663 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:24,595 It says, "Dear Casey, although we haven't spoken in many years, 664 00:50:24,679 --> 00:50:28,515 I heard the untrue and hurtful things 665 00:50:28,599 --> 00:50:31,555 you've recently said about our family. 666 00:50:31,639 --> 00:50:37,840 I can no longer remain quiet and allow you to feed your thirst 667 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,435 for notoriety at the expense of our family 668 00:50:42,519 --> 00:50:45,716 and the Armand Hammer Foundation. 669 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,796 If you choose to continue pretending 670 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,555 that the stories you have invented are the truth, 671 00:50:53,639 --> 00:50:55,756 I will have no choice 672 00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:00,316 other than to pursue every legal remedy 673 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,000 to set the records straight. 674 00:51:03,119 --> 00:51:07,716 Despite all the pain your fabrications have caused, 675 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:12,876 you share the blood running through my veins, 676 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,356 you are still my family, 677 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:20,360 and I wish you nothing but the best. Very truly yours, Michael. 678 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,199 My brother thinks he can silence me. 679 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,276 The way my brother is intimidating me right now 680 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,356 through that letter and those words, 681 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,716 it's exactly what my grandfather would do. 682 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:43,239 I've let the Hammers control me so much my whole life, 683 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,639 it’s time to stop. 684 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,519 I refuse to be silenced. 685 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,719 Francesca Villa Iyuno-SDI Group