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Jump.

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This one is heavy!

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Over here.

4
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Need some help.

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Be prepared!

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And cut! Back to one.

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I'm still not entirely sure how to…

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You'll wake up very sore
tomorrow, I would say. Yeah.

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Your volume's on, you'll
be able to hear everything.

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I really want to.

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But, you know...

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You're scared.

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Anyone would be.

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Do you really think
speaking out might stop him?

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I think it's really important for
voters to have this information

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as they determine whether
he's fit to be president.

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What if he decides to sue?

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Would The New York
Times be willing to help me?

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News organizations can't
provide legal support.

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You'd be on your own.

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Hi, Rachel?

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And you're definitely going
to write about Jessica Leeds?

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Jessica is absolutely on board 100%.

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Okay.

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I'll do it. I'll go on the record
and say what he did to me.

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You will? That's great, Rachel.

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Thank you.

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Violet, no.

29
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Baby, Momma's gotta go to work.

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You're gonna stay with Daddy, okay?

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Violet. Violet.

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Mom's gonna go to work. Come
on. Let's go see your animals.

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- Come on.
- Talia, you're my hero.

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Wanna show me your elephant?

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Morning, Jodi.

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- Were you sick again?
- Yeah.

37
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It's meant to stop
after the first trimester.

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- You should probably get some sleep.
- Mmm.

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Mmm.

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I will as soon as I get a response.

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From Trump's people?

42
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What happens if they don't respond?

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They will, but we can't
publish until they do.

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- Hello?
<i>- Is this Megan Twohey?</i>

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Yes, Mr. Trump.

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<i>I do not know these
women. They are lying.</i>

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<i>And if I did something to them,
why didn't they go to the police?</i>

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Jessica Leeds and Rachel Crooks
didn't ever say that they knew you,

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just that they were chance encounters.

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<i>The New York Times has
concocted these stories,</i>

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<i>and if you publish them, I will sue.</i>

52
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What about the leaked
Access Hollywood tape?

53
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Do you do those things?

54
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<i>I don't do it.</i>

55
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<i>I don't do it. It was
locker-room talk.</i>

56
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And, Mr. Trump, Miss Utah,

57
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she claimed you forcibly
kissed her more than once

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when you owned the
Miss America pageant.

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<i>She's lying. You are disgusting.
You are a disgusting human being.</i>

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<i>Several women speaking out,</i>

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<i>accusing Donald Trump of
touching them inappropriately.</i>

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<i>Jessica Leeds and Rachel Crooks,</i>

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<i>telling The New York Times they were both
groped or kissed by Trump without consent.</i>

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<i>…for a company located in Trump Tower,</i>

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<i>claims the billionaire kissed
her on the cheeks and the mouth.</i>

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Oh, my God.

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Fuck. Rachel, I'm so sorry.

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<i>I went on the record, you published,
and this is what happened.</i>

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Yeah, I'm so sorry.

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<i>I was prepared, you
know? But not for this.</i>

71
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<i>An envelope full of shit?</i>

72
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Was there anything written on it?

73
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<i>No. What can I do?</i>

74
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<i>- I can't even leave the house.</i>
- Oh, yeah, fuck.

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Well, you need to
write everything down.

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Tape any conversations or voice mails. You
need to document any threats you get...

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- Megan Twohey?
- Yeah. That's us.

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I can't even imagine.

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Shit. Rachel, I'm sorry. I have to go.

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I'll call you back. I promise.

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Rachel?

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<i>I'm calling from Bill
O'Reilly at Fox News.</i>

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<i>Are you a feminist?</i>

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Are you fucking kidding me?

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I'm sorry. Hi. Hi.

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<i>The final push till Election Day.</i>

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<i>And as Hillary Clinton and Donald
Trump make their closing arguments…</i>

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- Bill O'Reilly's talking about you.
<i>- …the race has tightened even more.</i>

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<i>The Factor asked Miss Twohey
to appear this evening.</i>

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<i>She declined, no surprise.
This is a tough forum.</i>

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<i>She and Mr. Barbaro did appear</i>

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<i>on other cable outlets…</i>

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<i>…friendly to liberal points of view.</i>

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<i>We asked Miss Twohey
if she herself is a feminist,</i>

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<i>both on the phone and in writing.</i>

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<i>She declined to answer in both cases.</i>

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I'm gonna go get some noodles.

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Here's what she said
about the article yesterday.

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<i>You know, our story is the
experience of many women,</i>

100
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<i>going back over the years.</i>

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Hello?

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<i>I am going to rape you and murder you,</i>

103
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<i>and dump your body in the Hudson River.</i>

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<i>This night is turning
out to be a real nail-biter.</i>

105
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<i>CNN can report</i>

106
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<i>that Hillary Clinton has called
Donald Trump to concede the race.</i>

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<i>CNN projects Donald
Trump wins the presidency.</i>

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<i>Breaking news on Bill O'Reilly.
Let's go to Julia Boorstin. Julia.</i>

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<i>That's right. Fox has just
announced that Bill O'Reilly is out,</i>

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<i>saying, quote, "After a thorough
and careful review of the allegations,</i>

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<i>the company and Bill
O'Reilly have agreed</i>

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<i>that Bill O'Reilly will not be
returning to the Fox News Channel."</i>

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<i>Of course, this follows the boycott of
over 50 advertisers of The O'Reilly Factor</i>

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<i>after a New York Times report
of sexual harassment allegations</i>

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<i>and the report that Fox and O'Reilly
together spent about $13 million</i>

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<i>to settle those allegations
from five different women.</i>

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<i>So, the story…</i>

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- Job well done, Emily.
- Thanks, Dean.

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And you, Mike. Excellent reporting.

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<i>…not be returning to
his top-rated cable show.</i>

121
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Are we talking solely
corporate misuse of power?

122
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No. We're talking all workplaces

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where sexual harassment might happen.

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Also, let's look for the enablers.

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Fox kept O'Reilly on for quite
some time after our story broke.

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And for decades before that.

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The network only ousted him
when the advertisers jumped ship.

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Let's interrogate the whole system.

129
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Why is sexual harassment so
pervasive and so hard to address?

130
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Hey, do you guys have a minute?

131
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Sure.

132
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So, I spoke to Shaunna Thomas,

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the head of UltraViolet,
a feminist group.

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She said the wrongdoing in
Hollywood is overwhelming.

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She's in touch with an
actress, Rose McGowan,

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who has tweeted about
being raped by a producer.

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Thomas says it's Harvey Weinstein.

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And that McGowan is now
working on a book about it.

139
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Wasn't he charged with
something a couple years ago?

140
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Yeah. Um…

141
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Ambra Battilana
Gutierrez, an Italian model.

142
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She claimed Weinstein groped
her in a business meeting.

143
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The NYPD investigated it,
but he was never charged.

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Talk to Rose McGowan.

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Try to talk to other
actresses he's worked with.

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Yeah, and I'll try to
reach ex-employees.

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Hi. My name is Jodi Kantor.

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I'm an investigative reporter
for The New York Times.

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We're looking into sexual
harassment in the workplace.

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I believe you were an
employee at Miramax

151
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and worked for Harvey
Weinstein in the '90s.

152
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<i>Are you recording this?</i>

153
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No, absolutely not.

154
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I won't quote from this conversation
without your permission.

155
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But in your time as an assistant,
were you aware of any instances

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in which Harvey Weinstein treated women
inappropriately or crossed a line?

157
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<i>Did Harvey cross a line?</i>

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Would you like to hear her heartbeat?

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- Yeah.
- Mm-hmm.

160
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Mary, thanks so much
for calling me back.

161
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<i>Who have you talked to?</i>

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I can't tell you names, just as
I would never divulge yours,

163
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but if you wanted to share
anything that you know,

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that would be so helpful.

165
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<i>I don't think people will want to talk.</i>

166
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<i>Sorry.</i>

167
00:13:07,663 --> 00:13:10,832
Ms. Godrèche, thank you
so much for responding.

168
00:13:10,916 --> 00:13:11,959
<i>Before you continue,</i>

169
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<i>I've talked about Weinstein
in the past, but in private.</i>

170
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<i>My immigration lawyer does
not want me to be involved.</i>

171
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Involved in what?

172
00:13:26,181 --> 00:13:28,517
<i>- Hello?</i>
- Oh, hi, Rose.

173
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Um, this is Jodi Kantor
from The New York Times.

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I wrote you an email.

175
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Shaunna Thomas suggested you might be
willing to have a conversation with me

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about Hollywood, and
specifically Harvey Weinstein.

177
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<i>Are you writing about him?</i>

178
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Yes, I am.

179
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<i>Look, I don't feel that
inclined to talk to you about it.</i>

180
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Could I ask why not?

181
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<i>I've been treated quite shabbily
by your paper numerous times,</i>

182
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<i>and I believe the root of it is sexism.</i>

183
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I'm sorry that was your experience.

184
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<i>I've talked in the past,
and nothing happened.</i>

185
00:14:02,509 --> 00:14:04,761
<i>I spoke at a political
meeting recently,</i>

186
00:14:04,845 --> 00:14:08,223
<i>and The New York Times
put it in the style section.</i>

187
00:14:08,307 --> 00:14:12,227
<i>It does damage to shout,
and no one listens.</i>

188
00:14:12,311 --> 00:14:15,522
I'm investigating systemic
sexism in Hollywood.

189
00:14:15,606 --> 00:14:17,649
<i>How many pages have you got?</i>

190
00:14:17,733 --> 00:14:18,942
<i>No.</i>

191
00:14:19,026 --> 00:14:22,696
<i>I put myself on the line before,
and it made no difference.</i>

192
00:14:22,779 --> 00:14:25,908
I've written about the workplace
at Amazon, Starbucks,

193
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and Harvard Business School,
and change did happen.

194
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They reformed their policies as a
direct result of the Times articles.

195
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But if you don't wanna
talk, I understand.

196
00:14:36,919 --> 00:14:38,504
And good luck with your book.

197
00:14:38,587 --> 00:14:40,506
<i>Thank you. Goodbye.</i>

198
00:14:42,925 --> 00:14:44,301
I spoke to Dad.

199
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He sounded worse.

200
00:14:49,431 --> 00:14:51,266
I gotta go see him soon.

201
00:14:52,267 --> 00:14:55,145
Could you go for a long weekend?
You could take the girls.

202
00:14:55,229 --> 00:14:57,314
I could take Talia,
but not both of them.

203
00:15:04,029 --> 00:15:05,614
I'm having an affair…

204
00:15:07,074 --> 00:15:09,284
with a very famous actress.

205
00:15:10,953 --> 00:15:12,371
You want her number?

206
00:15:18,418 --> 00:15:20,420
She's so hot.

207
00:15:21,505 --> 00:15:23,048
This looks beautiful.

208
00:15:23,549 --> 00:15:24,967
You'd really like her.

209
00:15:26,510 --> 00:15:30,764
<i>"I am a nasty woman."</i>

210
00:15:33,517 --> 00:15:36,770
<i>"I'm not as nasty as using
little girls like Pokémon</i>

211
00:15:36,854 --> 00:15:38,856
<i>before their bodies
have even developed."</i>

212
00:15:38,939 --> 00:15:41,191
- Is that Ashley Judd?
- Yeah.

213
00:15:42,401 --> 00:15:46,280
She wrote about being sexually
harassed by a producer in the '90s.

214
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She doesn't name him,
but she describes him as

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"one of our industry's most
famous admired/reviled bosses."

216
00:15:54,329 --> 00:15:57,165
<i>…"homophobia, sexual assault,</i>

217
00:15:57,249 --> 00:16:00,127
<i>transphobia, white supremacy,</i>

218
00:16:00,210 --> 00:16:03,297
<i>misogyny, ignorance, white privilege."</i>

219
00:16:03,380 --> 00:16:05,174
- I'll go?
- I'll get her.

220
00:16:05,257 --> 00:16:06,967
Mom!

221
00:16:08,468 --> 00:16:09,970
- We'll both go.
- Yeah.

222
00:16:12,639 --> 00:16:14,683
I don't know if I can do this.

223
00:16:16,935 --> 00:16:18,478
You need to rest.

224
00:16:19,646 --> 00:16:21,732
Can you try to sleep, maybe?

225
00:16:23,650 --> 00:16:24,985
I don't wanna be…

226
00:16:27,362 --> 00:16:30,991
I just have this constant
sense of dread.

227
00:16:31,074 --> 00:16:32,534
You're tired.

228
00:16:33,118 --> 00:16:34,995
Your body's exhausted.

229
00:16:37,206 --> 00:16:39,291
I think I would know
if it was just that.

230
00:16:45,756 --> 00:16:46,757
Mom.

231
00:16:55,265 --> 00:16:56,266
Hello?

232
00:16:56,350 --> 00:16:59,061
<i>It's Rose. McGowan.</i>

233
00:16:59,144 --> 00:17:00,646
Rose, hi.

234
00:17:00,729 --> 00:17:03,524
<i>It's not just him you should be after.</i>

235
00:17:03,607 --> 00:17:06,484
<i>There's an entire machine.
A supply chain.</i>

236
00:17:06,568 --> 00:17:09,029
Of abusers in Hollywood?

237
00:17:09,112 --> 00:17:10,113
<i>Right.</i>

238
00:17:10,696 --> 00:17:14,992
<i>They're worldwide, wherever
movies are being made or sold.</i>

239
00:17:15,077 --> 00:17:18,539
<i>Each studio does the
victim-shaming and payouts.</i>

240
00:17:19,122 --> 00:17:22,084
<i>If white men could have a
playground, this would be it.</i>

241
00:17:25,087 --> 00:17:26,505
Do people know about it?

242
00:17:27,047 --> 00:17:28,715
<i>Of course.</i>

243
00:17:28,799 --> 00:17:31,218
<i>I told a lot of people
what happened to me.</i>

244
00:17:32,219 --> 00:17:34,596
At the Sundance Film Festival?

245
00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:35,848
<i>I was 23.</i>

246
00:17:35,931 --> 00:17:38,767
<i>I was doing all these
brilliant independent films.</i>

247
00:17:38,851 --> 00:17:41,353
<i>I was just incredibly hopeful.</i>

248
00:17:43,105 --> 00:17:45,399
- Hi.
<i>- And then I went to that hotel room.</i>

249
00:17:47,651 --> 00:17:49,027
Talia?

250
00:17:49,111 --> 00:17:50,404
I'm here.

251
00:17:51,154 --> 00:17:55,409
<i>He was on a sofa, talking
loudly on his phone.</i>

252
00:17:55,492 --> 00:17:56,827
<i>I waited.</i>

253
00:17:56,910 --> 00:17:59,121
<i>And then we talked about projects,</i>

254
00:17:59,204 --> 00:18:03,876
<i>and he suddenly said, "I
have a Jacuzzi in my room."</i>

255
00:18:04,918 --> 00:18:09,506
<i>I didn't know what the answer
to that was, so I just kept talking.</i>

256
00:18:11,592 --> 00:18:14,344
<i>We wrapped up, and he
said he'd walk me out.</i>

257
00:18:14,428 --> 00:18:17,556
<i>And I thought, "Well, that went well."</i>

258
00:18:17,639 --> 00:18:19,641
<i>It was my first big meeting.</i>

259
00:18:20,309 --> 00:18:22,269
<i>He walked behind me down a hallway,</i>

260
00:18:22,978 --> 00:18:26,023
<i>and then he said, "This
is the Jacuzzi room."</i>

261
00:18:26,857 --> 00:18:30,861
<i>And I looked in, and
he pushed me inside.</i>

262
00:18:31,695 --> 00:18:32,863
<i>He stripped me.</i>

263
00:18:34,531 --> 00:18:36,742
<i>And he was suddenly naked.</i>

264
00:18:37,826 --> 00:18:40,454
<i>I left my body in some way.</i>

265
00:18:41,914 --> 00:18:43,415
<i>And he raped me.</i>

266
00:18:44,917 --> 00:18:47,628
<i>I went into survival mode to get out,</i>

267
00:18:47,711 --> 00:18:49,671
<i>and I faked an orgasm.</i>

268
00:18:50,464 --> 00:18:52,007
<i>He told me to get dressed.</i>

269
00:18:52,841 --> 00:18:56,553
<i>He left me messages telling
me I was his new special friend</i>

270
00:18:56,637 --> 00:18:59,598
<i>and that he'd done a
lot for other actresses.</i>

271
00:19:00,390 --> 00:19:01,600
Did you report it?

272
00:19:02,351 --> 00:19:05,479
<i>Can you see the law
taking my side on that?</i>

273
00:19:08,357 --> 00:19:10,400
But you told other people?

274
00:19:10,484 --> 00:19:13,612
<i>I told a lot of people,
and nobody did a thing.</i>

275
00:19:14,321 --> 00:19:15,322
<i>Nothing.</i>

276
00:19:18,158 --> 00:19:20,577
Can I contact the people you told?

277
00:19:21,286 --> 00:19:23,413
<i>You told me this was private.</i>

278
00:19:24,665 --> 00:19:28,168
<i>He'll have spies watching
you now, as we speak.</i>

279
00:19:28,710 --> 00:19:30,295
<i>I hope you know that.</i>

280
00:19:53,735 --> 00:19:55,404
Shh, shh, shh…

281
00:19:56,655 --> 00:19:58,073
Hello?

282
00:19:58,156 --> 00:20:00,033
<i>Hey, Megan, this is Jodi Kantor.</i>

283
00:20:00,117 --> 00:20:01,201
<i>Is this a bad time?</i>

284
00:20:01,827 --> 00:20:04,663
Uh… Um, no. It's fine.

285
00:20:04,746 --> 00:20:06,957
<i>Oh, I hear her.</i>

286
00:20:07,666 --> 00:20:08,876
How's it all going?

287
00:20:09,626 --> 00:20:11,670
<i>Yeah, it's, um…</i>

288
00:20:11,753 --> 00:20:13,630
I just got her down.

289
00:20:15,924 --> 00:20:17,759
<i>It's the toughest part, I think.</i>

290
00:20:18,427 --> 00:20:19,761
Is it?

291
00:20:19,845 --> 00:20:21,388
<i>I found it to be so.</i>

292
00:20:22,097 --> 00:20:25,475
With my first daughter, I
had postpartum depression.

293
00:20:27,686 --> 00:20:30,772
Everyone's so excited, and it's like…

294
00:20:32,274 --> 00:20:33,525
you're just not there.

295
00:20:35,235 --> 00:20:36,236
Right.

296
00:20:39,031 --> 00:20:40,616
So, I got your email.

297
00:20:41,408 --> 00:20:42,492
How's it all going?

298
00:20:42,576 --> 00:20:44,536
<i>Yeah…</i>

299
00:20:45,162 --> 00:20:48,498
I feel like there are a
lot of women who have…

300
00:20:49,958 --> 00:20:52,336
been through something with him.

301
00:20:53,629 --> 00:20:56,590
But they find it hard to talk.

302
00:20:57,216 --> 00:21:00,552
And those who do talk to me
don't want to go on the record.

303
00:21:01,553 --> 00:21:02,971
In your previous stories,

304
00:21:04,139 --> 00:21:07,434
how did you persuade women to
tell you what had happened to them?

305
00:21:09,478 --> 00:21:10,938
Yeah, so…

306
00:21:12,314 --> 00:21:13,774
It's difficult.

307
00:21:13,857 --> 00:21:15,275
They're terrified.

308
00:21:16,235 --> 00:21:17,569
A case I made was,

309
00:21:18,570 --> 00:21:22,199
"You know, I can't change what
happened to you in the past,

310
00:21:22,908 --> 00:21:26,411
but together, we may be
able to use your experience

311
00:21:26,495 --> 00:21:28,205
to help protect other people."

312
00:21:29,623 --> 00:21:31,542
<i>The truth, basically.</i>

313
00:21:32,376 --> 00:21:33,377
<i>But yeah.</i>

314
00:21:33,877 --> 00:21:37,798
It's hard to ask women to talk.

315
00:21:55,399 --> 00:22:00,028
<i>Then he asked me to meet
him, uh, really early.</i>

316
00:22:00,112 --> 00:22:03,031
<i>And I had been up all night
filming, and I was tired.</i>

317
00:22:03,782 --> 00:22:07,536
<i>I went over to The Peninsula
hotel, and at reception, I asked,</i>

318
00:22:07,619 --> 00:22:10,706
<i>"Is Mr. Weinstein in The Belvedere
restaurant or is he on the patio?"</i>

319
00:22:10,789 --> 00:22:13,959
<i>And they said, "Go to his room."</i>

320
00:22:15,460 --> 00:22:20,007
<i>And I went upstairs, and
Harvey was in his bathrobe.</i>

321
00:22:21,091 --> 00:22:23,635
<i>And he asked if he could
give me a massage.</i>

322
00:22:24,428 --> 00:22:26,430
<i>"No," I said.</i>

323
00:22:27,556 --> 00:22:31,602
<i>And then, um, he asked me to help
him pick out his clothes for the day.</i>

324
00:22:32,519 --> 00:22:35,939
<i>He, you know, started
asking for all these things,</i>

325
00:22:36,023 --> 00:22:39,026
<i>increasingly more sexual,
getting closer and closer.</i>

326
00:22:39,109 --> 00:22:42,154
<i>And I just said no so
many different times,</i>

327
00:22:42,237 --> 00:22:44,072
<i>and in so many different ways.</i>

328
00:22:45,115 --> 00:22:49,411
<i>And then he finally, um, asked
me to watch him take a shower.</i>

329
00:22:50,287 --> 00:22:52,456
<i>And I said, "Harvey,</i>

330
00:22:52,539 --> 00:22:55,959
<i>when I win an Academy
Award in a Miramax movie,</i>

331
00:22:57,169 --> 00:22:58,962
<i>I will give you a blow job."</i>

332
00:22:59,046 --> 00:23:00,923
<i>And I got out of there fast.</i>

333
00:23:01,590 --> 00:23:02,925
What did you do?

334
00:23:03,008 --> 00:23:05,636
<i>I told my dad, I told my agent,</i>

335
00:23:05,719 --> 00:23:08,305
<i>I told the people with whom
I was filming that night,</i>

336
00:23:08,388 --> 00:23:09,973
<i>and Harvey punished me.</i>

337
00:23:10,057 --> 00:23:12,309
<i>I mean, he blackballed my career</i>

338
00:23:12,392 --> 00:23:14,561
<i>because I had the
wherewithal to refuse him.</i>

339
00:23:14,645 --> 00:23:16,230
How do you know that?

340
00:23:16,313 --> 00:23:19,525
<i>I would be standing with other
actresses, and he would blank me.</i>

341
00:23:19,608 --> 00:23:23,028
<i>There were roles for which I was
up that I mysteriously did not get,</i>

342
00:23:23,111 --> 00:23:25,531
<i>and I know today that it was
Harvey making a phone call.</i>

343
00:23:25,614 --> 00:23:29,785
<i>You know, I did an article about
it, and nobody did anything.</i>

344
00:23:29,868 --> 00:23:32,913
You didn't identify him, but
did industry people know

345
00:23:32,996 --> 00:23:34,748
who you were talking
about in your article?

346
00:23:34,831 --> 00:23:36,250
Absolutely.

347
00:23:36,333 --> 00:23:38,961
And the abuse came raining
down on me, not on him.

348
00:23:39,545 --> 00:23:42,297
You know at the Women's March
when I did the "Nasty Woman" poem?

349
00:23:42,381 --> 00:23:44,591
I lost a huge advertising gig

350
00:23:44,675 --> 00:23:48,512
because a small group of people complained
that I was quoting the president.

351
00:23:48,595 --> 00:23:50,973
He used that language and got elected.

352
00:23:51,056 --> 00:23:53,934
I quoted him, and I got fired.

353
00:23:54,017 --> 00:23:57,020
It is decades later, and
it's still the same sexism.

354
00:23:57,104 --> 00:24:00,607
And, Jodi, I would make the
same choices all over again,

355
00:24:00,691 --> 00:24:02,317
but I also would like to work.

356
00:24:06,363 --> 00:24:08,824
Lisa Bloom, the lawyer,
she wrote to me.

357
00:24:08,907 --> 00:24:10,534
- Gloria Allred's daughter?
- Yeah.

358
00:24:10,617 --> 00:24:13,912
- Do you know her?
- No, but I assume she wants to help.

359
00:24:13,996 --> 00:24:15,539
I forwarded the email to Emily.

360
00:24:22,921 --> 00:24:24,756
Jodi? Lisa Bloom.

361
00:24:25,591 --> 00:24:26,925
"Big announcement,

362
00:24:27,009 --> 00:24:31,597
my book Suspicion Nation is being
produced by Harvey Weinstein and Jay-Z."

363
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,307
Weinstein is producing her book?

364
00:24:34,391 --> 00:24:39,313
Lisa Bloom, daughter of feminist icon,
is working with Harvey Weinstein.

365
00:24:39,396 --> 00:24:41,064
But why would she do that?

366
00:24:41,148 --> 00:24:43,233
How much do you get
paid for a miniseries?

367
00:24:43,317 --> 00:24:45,986
He's got to be behind
Lisa reaching out to you.

368
00:24:46,069 --> 00:24:48,322
So Weinstein knows what we're doing.

369
00:24:56,580 --> 00:24:57,581
Sorry.

370
00:25:01,376 --> 00:25:03,462
Do you wanna keep going with Trump?

371
00:25:04,338 --> 00:25:07,132
Or you could join Jodi and
look into Harvey Weinstein?

372
00:25:10,552 --> 00:25:12,971
I worry about whether
it makes a difference.

373
00:25:14,097 --> 00:25:17,518
These women spoke out against
Trump, and he still became president.

374
00:25:17,601 --> 00:25:20,145
But in the wake of O'Reilly,
there's possibility.

375
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,481
Sorry.

376
00:25:23,106 --> 00:25:25,526
Craig. I've been trying to reach you.

377
00:25:26,777 --> 00:25:27,986
You've gotta show up.

378
00:25:29,530 --> 00:25:30,531
How's your daughter?

379
00:25:30,614 --> 00:25:32,115
She's great.

380
00:25:34,451 --> 00:25:35,786
Oh, s... Um…

381
00:25:37,037 --> 00:25:38,580
Sorry. I, um...

382
00:25:38,664 --> 00:25:40,916
Thank you for the gift you...

383
00:25:41,458 --> 00:25:42,584
Um…

384
00:25:43,293 --> 00:25:44,795
Is anything bothering you?

385
00:25:45,504 --> 00:25:47,714
Besides no sleep and
diapers everywhere.

386
00:25:49,883 --> 00:25:50,968
Are you okay?

387
00:25:53,971 --> 00:25:55,430
I've found it quite…

388
00:25:56,849 --> 00:25:57,850
difficult.

389
00:25:59,309 --> 00:26:00,310
I'm sorry.

390
00:26:01,645 --> 00:26:02,771
Will working help?

391
00:26:03,355 --> 00:26:04,648
Yeah. Yeah.

392
00:26:05,524 --> 00:26:07,776
Absolutely. It's better now.

393
00:26:17,452 --> 00:26:19,121
- Megan.
- Hey.

394
00:26:33,844 --> 00:26:35,637
Are they all famous?

395
00:26:36,805 --> 00:26:38,515
Most of them, yes.

396
00:26:39,474 --> 00:26:43,687
I guess my question is just, like,
is this the best use of our time?

397
00:26:43,770 --> 00:26:47,691
Like, as opposed to other people
we could potentially be covering.

398
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,987
People who can't speak out.
Actresses already have a voice.

399
00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:55,490
But they could also fear being punished
by the film industry for using it.

400
00:26:56,158 --> 00:26:57,242
Sure…

401
00:26:58,035 --> 00:27:01,955
but what is it exactly that
we're looking at here?

402
00:27:02,039 --> 00:27:04,750
We're looking at extreme sexual
harassment in the workplace.

403
00:27:06,293 --> 00:27:08,921
These young women walked into
what they all had reason to believe

404
00:27:09,004 --> 00:27:12,174
were "business meetings"
with a producer, an employer.

405
00:27:12,257 --> 00:27:13,467
They were hopeful.

406
00:27:13,550 --> 00:27:17,179
They were expecting a serious conversation
about their work or a possible project.

407
00:27:17,262 --> 00:27:20,682
Instead, they say he met them
with threats and sexual demands.

408
00:27:21,266 --> 00:27:23,060
They claim assault and rape.

409
00:27:23,977 --> 00:27:28,023
If that can happen to Hollywood
actresses, who else is it happening to?

410
00:27:29,441 --> 00:27:31,527
Do you think his employees
were targeted too?

411
00:27:32,110 --> 00:27:33,111
I do.

412
00:27:36,490 --> 00:27:40,744
I could search for any police
complaints against Miramax?

413
00:27:40,827 --> 00:27:42,412
Or court records?

414
00:27:44,414 --> 00:27:45,582
Should I?

415
00:27:46,750 --> 00:27:47,835
Yes.

416
00:27:48,585 --> 00:27:52,464
I found records of a complaint
against Miramax from 2001,

417
00:27:52,548 --> 00:27:55,884
but the report was closed
out the same day it was made.

418
00:27:55,968 --> 00:27:58,637
It says, "complainant
elected court action,"

419
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,057
but then no court documents
exist, which seems inconsistent.

420
00:28:02,140 --> 00:28:04,434
Do you have any more
information on that?

421
00:28:05,060 --> 00:28:07,688
<i>No. Those records would
have been destroyed.</i>

422
00:28:08,522 --> 00:28:10,065
Really? Why?

423
00:28:10,148 --> 00:28:11,733
<i>It's agency policy.</i>

424
00:28:11,817 --> 00:28:13,986
<i>All records are destroyed
after three years.</i>

425
00:28:14,945 --> 00:28:16,113
Why is that?

426
00:28:16,738 --> 00:28:19,658
<i>As I said, it's policy.</i>

427
00:28:20,951 --> 00:28:25,247
So could you please tell me who filed
the sexual harassment complaint?

428
00:28:25,330 --> 00:28:26,957
<i>No, I cannot.</i>

429
00:28:28,083 --> 00:28:30,836
- Because?
<i>- It's policy.</i>

430
00:28:30,919 --> 00:28:33,255
<i>We are prohibited from
giving you that name.</i>

431
00:28:34,089 --> 00:28:35,507
<i>Is that everything?</i>

432
00:28:36,592 --> 00:28:38,468
This is very important.

433
00:28:38,552 --> 00:28:41,930
It's about someone who's still
very powerful in the workplace.

434
00:28:42,014 --> 00:28:44,433
Who could still be harassing someone.

435
00:28:44,516 --> 00:28:46,727
Is there any way you can help me?

436
00:28:50,522 --> 00:28:52,983
<i>You could ask me the name
of the government investigator</i>

437
00:28:53,066 --> 00:28:54,818
<i>who was assigned the case.</i>

438
00:28:54,902 --> 00:28:56,862
<i>I could give you that information.</i>

439
00:28:57,696 --> 00:28:59,531
<i>- Just a name.</i>
- Thank you.

440
00:29:01,450 --> 00:29:04,494
I've made 20 calls to
track this investigator.

441
00:29:06,246 --> 00:29:07,998
What did Lisa Bloom say?

442
00:29:08,999 --> 00:29:12,961
She just talked as though
he was kind of naughty.

443
00:29:13,045 --> 00:29:15,214
She was talking to
me kind of Jew-to-Jew

444
00:29:15,297 --> 00:29:17,591
and including Weinstein in the gang.

445
00:29:17,674 --> 00:29:18,884
Oh!

446
00:29:19,718 --> 00:29:24,056
I had a long conversation with
Lena Dunham and Jenni Konner.

447
00:29:24,139 --> 00:29:26,517
They wanna help, and they
have so many numbers.

448
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:27,726
Amazing.

449
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:29,937
Did you know them before?

450
00:29:30,020 --> 00:29:32,272
I don't know anyone.

451
00:29:32,356 --> 00:29:34,441
In April, when I started…

452
00:29:34,525 --> 00:29:35,859
…I was literally leaving...

453
00:29:35,943 --> 00:29:37,277
It's the investigator.

454
00:29:38,278 --> 00:29:40,697
Hi, this is Megan Twohey.
Thank you for getting back to me.

455
00:29:40,781 --> 00:29:42,908
<i>Sure. How can I help?</i>

456
00:29:42,991 --> 00:29:44,701
Do you remember the case?

457
00:29:44,785 --> 00:29:47,955
<i>There are hundreds of sexual
harassment cases at that agency.</i>

458
00:29:48,789 --> 00:29:52,751
This one was brought to you, and
then it was closed very quickly.

459
00:29:52,835 --> 00:29:54,461
<i>That's not unusual.</i>

460
00:29:55,420 --> 00:29:57,756
It was filed against Miramax?

461
00:29:58,715 --> 00:30:00,133
<i>What's Miramax?</i>

462
00:30:04,638 --> 00:30:06,765
<i>Harvey, I've read the thorough reports,</i>

463
00:30:06,849 --> 00:30:11,103
<i>and Rose comes across as
a disturbed, pathological liar.</i>

464
00:30:11,186 --> 00:30:15,232
<i>Clearly she must be stopped in her
ridiculous, defamatory attacks on you.</i>

465
00:30:15,983 --> 00:30:18,944
<i>She is dangerous. You
are right to be concerned.</i>

466
00:30:19,570 --> 00:30:23,031
<i>I feel equipped to help you
against the Roses of the world,</i>

467
00:30:23,115 --> 00:30:26,451
<i>because I have
represented so many of them.</i>

468
00:30:26,535 --> 00:30:29,121
<i>I'd like to meet with you to
go over this in some detail.</i>

469
00:30:29,204 --> 00:30:32,749
<i>You should be the hero
of this story, not the villain.</i>

470
00:30:32,833 --> 00:30:34,168
<i>Best. Lisa Bloom.</i>

471
00:30:36,295 --> 00:30:40,424
I'm trying to get ahold of this assistant
who worked at Miramax in her early 20s.

472
00:30:41,884 --> 00:30:43,969
One day, she just disappeared.

473
00:30:44,052 --> 00:30:46,847
All she left were her running
shoes under the table.

474
00:30:46,930 --> 00:30:50,225
I haven't been able to find her yet,
but her mother lives in Queens.

475
00:30:50,309 --> 00:30:51,810
I thought I'd just show up.

476
00:31:30,974 --> 00:31:32,809
- Hi.
- Hello.

477
00:31:33,602 --> 00:31:37,397
Hi. I was expecting your mother.

478
00:31:37,481 --> 00:31:38,982
Oh, I'll go get her.
Who should I say...

479
00:31:39,066 --> 00:31:40,692
No, it's... it's actually...

480
00:31:40,776 --> 00:31:42,444
You're the one I wanted to see.

481
00:31:43,737 --> 00:31:44,947
Excuse me?

482
00:31:45,948 --> 00:31:47,491
My name is Megan Twohey.

483
00:31:47,574 --> 00:31:50,369
I am an investigative reporter
for The New York Times.

484
00:31:51,787 --> 00:31:53,247
Would it be okay if...

485
00:31:53,330 --> 00:31:55,499
Go back upstairs. Go see Abuelita.

486
00:32:04,132 --> 00:32:06,385
Could we talk for a minute…

487
00:32:07,970 --> 00:32:09,763
about your time at Miramax?

488
00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:14,560
I can't believe you found me.

489
00:32:16,144 --> 00:32:18,522
I've been waiting
for this for 25 years.

490
00:32:21,191 --> 00:32:26,363
I would love the chance to
ask you a couple questions.

491
00:32:28,740 --> 00:32:30,242
What do you know?

492
00:32:31,660 --> 00:32:36,456
That you were at the beginning
of your career and doing well.

493
00:32:38,292 --> 00:32:40,377
And that something happened.

494
00:32:43,088 --> 00:32:44,840
And then you disappeared.

495
00:32:47,885 --> 00:32:50,220
And that your father
threatened legal action.

496
00:33:03,734 --> 00:33:05,485
All I can tell you is that…

497
00:33:07,571 --> 00:33:11,867
I had a business dispute with Miramax.

498
00:33:13,493 --> 00:33:14,912
It was resolved.

499
00:33:15,871 --> 00:33:17,122
Amicably.

500
00:33:18,415 --> 00:33:20,584
And we've agreed not to discuss it.

501
00:33:24,129 --> 00:33:25,130
I'm…

502
00:33:26,048 --> 00:33:27,424
so glad to meet you anyway.

503
00:33:32,930 --> 00:33:34,014
So…

504
00:33:35,516 --> 00:33:37,267
it was "resolved"?

505
00:33:38,519 --> 00:33:41,063
Yeah. It was.

506
00:33:49,321 --> 00:33:52,115
There are women who
have had settlements,

507
00:33:53,158 --> 00:33:54,660
and they're bound to silence,

508
00:33:55,619 --> 00:33:58,121
but we have written around them.

509
00:33:59,331 --> 00:34:01,875
There are ways to report
around that restriction.

510
00:34:01,959 --> 00:34:04,086
The source can remain anonymous.

511
00:34:09,341 --> 00:34:11,134
I should go back in.

512
00:34:15,514 --> 00:34:16,639
Look, I'm...

513
00:34:17,474 --> 00:34:20,060
Sorry. I've thrown a curveball
into your trip to see your mother,

514
00:34:20,143 --> 00:34:21,895
and I don't wanna keep
you from your family,

515
00:34:21,978 --> 00:34:25,107
but would it be okay if
I gave you my number?

516
00:34:27,775 --> 00:34:32,322
She was terrified, Jodi, but she
wants to talk. She really does.

517
00:34:32,406 --> 00:34:34,408
<i>Really? That's incredible.</i>

518
00:34:35,074 --> 00:34:37,244
<i>Listen, Gwyneth Paltrow called,</i>

519
00:34:37,327 --> 00:34:40,496
<i>and she told me about an
incident at The Peninsula hotel.</i>

520
00:34:40,581 --> 00:34:42,291
The Peninsula? What the fuck?

521
00:34:42,373 --> 00:34:44,501
Exactly. Where Ashley went to meet him.

522
00:34:44,585 --> 00:34:46,670
Shit. What happened?

523
00:34:47,713 --> 00:34:49,089
Fuck. It's her. I have to go.

524
00:34:49,630 --> 00:34:51,007
Hi.

525
00:34:51,091 --> 00:34:53,217
<i>Megan, we just spoke.</i>

526
00:34:53,302 --> 00:34:55,053
<i>I'm sorry, but it's a no.</i>

527
00:34:55,137 --> 00:34:56,889
<i>But good luck. Honestly.</i>

528
00:35:24,958 --> 00:35:28,086
So if you sign it, you don't
tell anyone about anything?

529
00:35:28,170 --> 00:35:30,255
Yeah. It could've been bullying,

530
00:35:30,339 --> 00:35:32,799
or sometimes it's just a big shop,

531
00:35:32,883 --> 00:35:35,636
and they don't want you
to tell their trade secrets.

532
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,054
Did you sign one?

533
00:35:37,137 --> 00:35:38,972
No.

534
00:35:39,515 --> 00:35:42,809
So, shops have secrets,
but newspapers don't?

535
00:35:47,606 --> 00:35:50,150
I think pretty much everyone
and everything has a secret.

536
00:35:50,234 --> 00:35:51,109
What's yours?

537
00:35:53,362 --> 00:35:56,156
I will tell you one day.
Do you have one?

538
00:35:56,740 --> 00:35:58,033
Of course.

539
00:36:01,578 --> 00:36:02,913
'Course I have a secret.

540
00:36:47,958 --> 00:36:49,793
- Hello?
- John Schmidt?

541
00:36:49,877 --> 00:36:52,588
My name is Megan Twohey. I'm a
reporter from The New York Times.

542
00:36:52,671 --> 00:36:54,631
Would it be possible
to speak for a moment?

543
00:36:54,715 --> 00:36:55,966
Come in.

544
00:37:01,430 --> 00:37:03,412
I can't see what you want from me.

545
00:37:03,682 --> 00:37:06,894
You were the chief financial
officer at Miramax.

546
00:37:06,977 --> 00:37:10,272
The women who received these
settlements, they can't speak out.

547
00:37:10,355 --> 00:37:12,149
They'll be sued if they do.

548
00:37:13,192 --> 00:37:16,820
But if someone could speak
freely about the payouts,

549
00:37:17,696 --> 00:37:19,698
that would be hugely helpful.

550
00:37:22,743 --> 00:37:24,453
What payouts, John?

551
00:37:32,461 --> 00:37:34,087
I'm not asking you to go on the record.

552
00:37:34,171 --> 00:37:39,092
Just to have your perspective on
what might've happened back then.

553
00:37:45,974 --> 00:37:47,559
I need to think about it.

554
00:37:49,937 --> 00:37:50,938
Okay?

555
00:37:51,772 --> 00:37:52,773
Okay.

556
00:37:54,149 --> 00:37:55,692
Sorry just to show up.

557
00:38:00,072 --> 00:38:01,573
Good night.

558
00:38:01,657 --> 00:38:02,741
Good night.

559
00:38:20,884 --> 00:38:23,178
Hi, hi. Can you hear me?

560
00:38:23,262 --> 00:38:24,388
<i>Yes.</i>

561
00:38:24,471 --> 00:38:27,391
Uh, I really appreciate you
talking to me on a Saturday.

562
00:38:27,474 --> 00:38:29,518
<i>I hope the links were useful.</i>

563
00:38:29,601 --> 00:38:32,145
They were, but I find it very strange

564
00:38:32,229 --> 00:38:35,607
that if I wanna access
certain information, I can't.

565
00:38:35,691 --> 00:38:39,403
<i>The EEOC is all about information.
What could you not find?</i>

566
00:38:39,486 --> 00:38:43,073
Well, for instance, which companies have
had the most sexual harassment complaints,

567
00:38:43,156 --> 00:38:45,367
but no one was
permitted to tell me that.

568
00:38:45,450 --> 00:38:47,870
<i>Yes, that would be
confidential information.</i>

569
00:38:48,453 --> 00:38:49,830
But do you think that's right?

570
00:38:49,913 --> 00:38:52,583
Shouldn't the Equal Employment
Opportunities Commission

571
00:38:52,666 --> 00:38:54,585
be a resource for information?

572
00:38:56,003 --> 00:38:58,005
<i>Our policies are reviewed annually.</i>

573
00:38:58,088 --> 00:39:01,842
So do you know internally which
companies have the most complaints?

574
00:39:01,925 --> 00:39:05,804
<i>Yes. We do, but we're not allowed
to disclose that information.</i>

575
00:39:07,055 --> 00:39:09,391
So any woman applying for a job

576
00:39:09,474 --> 00:39:15,063
is not allowed to check the record of
that employer in terms of harassment?

577
00:39:15,147 --> 00:39:18,942
<i>That's right. You should probably
talk to someone higher up.</i>

578
00:39:19,026 --> 00:39:21,028
I'm... I'm going to.

579
00:39:21,111 --> 00:39:24,281
I will, but don't you
think that's strange?

580
00:39:24,364 --> 00:39:26,658
That the commission is
there to protect people,

581
00:39:26,742 --> 00:39:31,330
but its policy prohibits sharing the
information needed to protect them?

582
00:39:32,372 --> 00:39:36,627
<i>Megan, I'm not the head of the
EEOC. I was just trying to help.</i>

583
00:39:37,419 --> 00:39:41,131
And you have. And it's the
weekend. I really thank you.

584
00:39:41,215 --> 00:39:42,466
<i>- Okay.</i>
- Okay.

585
00:39:42,549 --> 00:39:44,218
<i>- Goodbye.</i>
- Oh, my gosh.

586
00:39:45,802 --> 00:39:46,845
Amazing.

587
00:39:47,638 --> 00:39:48,847
Incredible.

588
00:39:49,598 --> 00:39:52,726
Mira or the Equal Employment
Opportunities Commission?

589
00:39:53,685 --> 00:39:54,686
Both.

590
00:39:56,146 --> 00:39:57,814
- Hi.
- Hi.

591
00:40:00,734 --> 00:40:02,903
- We're like reporting twins.
- Yeah.

592
00:40:02,986 --> 00:40:04,238
Should I go up and change?

593
00:40:04,321 --> 00:40:05,531
No, let's go.

594
00:40:07,449 --> 00:40:09,743
- You look nice.
- You look amazing.

595
00:40:16,834 --> 00:40:17,835
- Hi.
- Hi.

596
00:40:17,918 --> 00:40:20,337
- How was your ride?
- Yeah. It was great.

597
00:40:20,420 --> 00:40:21,421
It was good.

598
00:40:21,505 --> 00:40:23,090
I'm Helen. I'm Gwyneth's assistant.

599
00:40:23,173 --> 00:40:24,591
Gwyneth will be right with you.

600
00:40:24,675 --> 00:40:25,717
Thank you.

601
00:40:30,264 --> 00:40:32,933
So it's a total pattern.
A pattern of behavior.

602
00:40:33,016 --> 00:40:35,769
Gwyneth was invited to the hotel
room, the business meeting,

603
00:40:35,853 --> 00:40:38,689
and then threatened with losing
her job if she refused him.

604
00:40:38,772 --> 00:40:41,483
She told her agent.
No one does a thing.

605
00:40:41,567 --> 00:40:43,110
<i>Will Gwyneth go on the record?</i>

606
00:40:43,819 --> 00:40:44,820
She really wants to.

607
00:40:44,903 --> 00:40:46,530
I think she does and she doesn't.

608
00:40:46,613 --> 00:40:51,243
She is scared that it could turn into
some kind of tabloidy sex scandal.

609
00:40:51,326 --> 00:40:55,706
I mean, Gwyneth was 23. So
was Rose. They were so young.

610
00:40:55,789 --> 00:40:57,708
Tell me everything when you get in.

611
00:40:57,791 --> 00:40:59,042
Okay. Bye.

612
00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:06,633
The only way these women
are gonna go on the record…

613
00:41:06,717 --> 00:41:07,843
Is if they all jump together.

614
00:41:09,219 --> 00:41:10,220
Yeah.

615
00:41:20,772 --> 00:41:22,524
You take the lead on this.

616
00:41:22,608 --> 00:41:25,110
No, you do it. You're
less intimidating.

617
00:41:25,194 --> 00:41:27,112
You don't find me intimidating?

618
00:41:28,697 --> 00:41:31,366
I mean... No, it's
just the height thing.

619
00:41:32,159 --> 00:41:33,577
- Hi.
- Hi.

620
00:41:33,660 --> 00:41:35,704
We were just in the neighborhood.

621
00:41:35,787 --> 00:41:37,206
We're from The New York Times.

622
00:41:37,289 --> 00:41:39,708
I believe you used to work
for Harvey Weinstein?

623
00:41:46,632 --> 00:41:48,467
Think she'll go on the record?

624
00:41:49,426 --> 00:41:50,928
Okay. I'm just gonna…

625
00:41:51,011 --> 00:41:52,930
You wanna leave the note? Yeah.

626
00:42:02,523 --> 00:42:05,192
The NDAs are never
examined or questioned.

627
00:42:05,275 --> 00:42:08,445
They rarely come up in open
court. Law schools don't teach them.

628
00:42:08,529 --> 00:42:10,781
Also, the attorneys
who represent the victims

629
00:42:10,864 --> 00:42:13,116
can get up to 40% of the settlement.

630
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,285
That's a big incentive to
keep that system going.

631
00:42:15,369 --> 00:42:18,121
Most sexual harassment
cases are settled out of court.

632
00:42:18,205 --> 00:42:20,624
And most of them have
a confidentiality clause.

633
00:42:20,707 --> 00:42:24,002
And the women who sign these contracts
have to give over all of their evidence.

634
00:42:24,086 --> 00:42:26,255
Their diaries, emails, phones.

635
00:42:26,338 --> 00:42:29,800
It's cash for silence, and it enables
the perpetrators to continue.

636
00:42:29,883 --> 00:42:32,261
And these clauses
are standard practice.

637
00:42:32,344 --> 00:42:35,222
The women wanna close the
case. They need the money.

638
00:42:35,305 --> 00:42:37,975
They don't wanna be
branded as liars or flirts.

639
00:42:38,058 --> 00:42:40,978
I mean, I'm sure it often
seems like the only recourse.

640
00:42:41,061 --> 00:42:44,898
And I imagine some women see these
settlements as a confession of guilt.

641
00:42:44,982 --> 00:42:48,777
They think they've scored a
victory when it's actually a gag order.

642
00:42:48,861 --> 00:42:50,988
And if you try and take
a case like this to court,

643
00:42:51,071 --> 00:42:53,115
the sexual harassment laws are so weak.

644
00:42:53,198 --> 00:42:55,325
They're actually nonexistent
if you're a freelancer

645
00:42:55,409 --> 00:42:57,578
or if there are fewer than 15
employees in the workplace.

646
00:42:57,661 --> 00:42:59,454
Also, most lawyers prefer settlements

647
00:42:59,538 --> 00:43:01,331
'cause it's less of a
financial risk for them.

648
00:43:01,415 --> 00:43:04,710
How close are any of these
actresses to going on the record?

649
00:43:04,793 --> 00:43:06,920
We're introducing the idea.

650
00:43:07,004 --> 00:43:09,882
I'm afraid we have these
horrific hotel room accounts

651
00:43:09,965 --> 00:43:12,050
and no corroborating evidence.

652
00:43:12,134 --> 00:43:16,346
We feel they'll speak out
if they're not the only ones.

653
00:43:16,430 --> 00:43:17,681
Safety in numbers.

654
00:43:17,764 --> 00:43:18,765
And settlements?

655
00:43:19,433 --> 00:43:21,727
Three. So far.

656
00:43:21,810 --> 00:43:23,770
There is Rose McGowan.

657
00:43:23,854 --> 00:43:26,315
We're pretty sure
about Ambra Battilana.

658
00:43:26,398 --> 00:43:28,901
And I would say the same
for the ex-assistant in Queens.

659
00:43:28,984 --> 00:43:30,319
And no documents?

660
00:43:30,402 --> 00:43:32,863
We do not have a publishable story.

661
00:43:37,534 --> 00:43:38,577
Hey.

662
00:43:38,660 --> 00:43:40,245
So, look, team.

663
00:43:40,829 --> 00:43:44,333
You have to imagine that every
call you make is being recorded.

664
00:43:44,416 --> 00:43:45,876
And you're being followed.

665
00:43:46,543 --> 00:43:49,254
Don't let Weinstein talk to
you, unless it's on the record.

666
00:43:50,255 --> 00:43:53,425
I'd be interested in talking
to him even off the record.

667
00:43:53,509 --> 00:43:58,013
No, if Harvey has something to
say, he needs to say it publicly.

668
00:43:58,096 --> 00:44:00,015
I've dealt with him before.

669
00:44:00,098 --> 00:44:01,350
It's ugly.

670
00:44:03,352 --> 00:44:06,688
We're looking into the incident
with Ambra Battilana Gutierrez.

671
00:44:07,272 --> 00:44:09,566
She accused Weinstein of groping her.

672
00:44:09,650 --> 00:44:12,694
The NYPD gave her a wire,
and she met him again.

673
00:44:12,778 --> 00:44:14,404
But the DA wouldn't prosecute.

674
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,741
They claimed the recording
wasn't enough to arrest him.

675
00:44:17,824 --> 00:44:21,578
Linda Fairstein worked in the
DA's office. I've texted her.

676
00:45:58,467 --> 00:46:00,469
Linda, Megan Twohey here. How are you?

677
00:46:01,011 --> 00:46:03,138
<i>I'm good, Megan. How can I help?</i>

678
00:46:03,222 --> 00:46:06,642
Yeah, I'm looking into a police
complaint against Harvey Weinstein

679
00:46:06,725 --> 00:46:08,310
that wasn't charged. Two years ago.

680
00:46:08,393 --> 00:46:10,395
<i>When you were at the DA's office.</i>

681
00:46:10,479 --> 00:46:12,773
<i>Ambra Battilana Gutierrez.</i>

682
00:46:12,856 --> 00:46:14,816
Oh. Okay.

683
00:46:15,526 --> 00:46:17,361
<i>It seemed to go away very quickly.</i>

684
00:46:18,612 --> 00:46:20,155
There was no criminal conduct there.

685
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,283
The cops seemed pretty
confident there was.

686
00:46:24,284 --> 00:46:26,995
Do you think there was anything
irregular about how it was handled?

687
00:46:27,579 --> 00:46:30,207
I don't. Why would you say that?

688
00:46:33,001 --> 00:46:34,002
Gwyneth.

689
00:46:34,086 --> 00:46:37,965
<i>He's here. I invited a few people
over, and he turned up.</i>

690
00:46:38,674 --> 00:46:42,010
<i>I haven't seen him for years.
He must know I spoke to you.</i>

691
00:46:42,094 --> 00:46:45,013
Why are you so certain there
was no criminal conduct?

692
00:46:45,097 --> 00:46:46,306
Wasn't there a recording?

693
00:46:48,308 --> 00:46:49,935
I don't think there's
a road to go down.

694
00:46:50,561 --> 00:46:51,895
No.

695
00:46:51,979 --> 00:46:54,398
Do you feel like you're
in physical danger at all?

696
00:46:54,481 --> 00:46:56,775
<i>I'll keep people around
me till he goes.</i>

697
00:46:56,859 --> 00:46:59,111
<i>It's a shock. I know he's watching me.</i>

698
00:46:59,194 --> 00:47:00,237
<i>He's letting me know.</i>

699
00:47:01,697 --> 00:47:03,198
He can't do anything.

700
00:47:04,032 --> 00:47:06,910
Gwyneth. I'm here.
Call me if you need me.

701
00:47:07,744 --> 00:47:08,745
<i>Okay. Bye.</i>

702
00:47:11,206 --> 00:47:13,166
Linda, do you know Harvey?

703
00:47:13,876 --> 00:47:15,169
I've met him socially,

704
00:47:15,252 --> 00:47:17,379
but we've never been
to each other's homes.

705
00:47:18,088 --> 00:47:21,717
- Okay. I'm sure we'll speak soon.
- Yes.

706
00:47:22,467 --> 00:47:23,468
Goodbye.

707
00:47:29,183 --> 00:47:32,060
We got a good lead to talk to
a past executive at Miramax.

708
00:47:32,144 --> 00:47:33,729
- Great. When will that be?
- Hola.

709
00:47:33,812 --> 00:47:35,147
Jodi's talking to her tomorrow.

710
00:47:35,230 --> 00:47:37,983
I don't think she heard you.
She definitely didn't hear you.

711
00:47:38,066 --> 00:47:39,943
- Oh, my God.
- What?

712
00:47:41,820 --> 00:47:46,283
Ronan Farrow is working on an
HW piece for The New Yorker.

713
00:47:46,366 --> 00:47:48,035
What? Since when?

714
00:47:48,118 --> 00:47:49,203
- She doesn't say…
- Fuck.

715
00:47:49,286 --> 00:47:51,914
…but apparently he's spoken
to a lot of actresses already.

716
00:47:52,873 --> 00:47:53,957
Okay, ladies.

717
00:47:54,041 --> 00:47:55,667
These are the menus.

718
00:47:55,751 --> 00:47:57,085
- Thank you.
- Thank you.

719
00:47:57,961 --> 00:48:00,839
It's pressure we can do without,
but we just keep going.

720
00:48:00,923 --> 00:48:02,841
And we continue to be thorough.

721
00:48:02,925 --> 00:48:04,468
Pardon me. Excuse me. Hello.

722
00:48:04,551 --> 00:48:05,969
Hi. Hello, everyone.

723
00:48:06,053 --> 00:48:08,514
Did you see my friend
over there? He said hi.

724
00:48:08,597 --> 00:48:10,516
Could you leave us? We're talking.

725
00:48:10,599 --> 00:48:12,684
I absolutely will. I
totally understand,

726
00:48:12,768 --> 00:48:14,353
but I was thinking maybe
I could have a moment...

727
00:48:14,436 --> 00:48:16,313
We're having a conversation.
So if you could just...

728
00:48:16,396 --> 00:48:18,732
- You should be doing something else.
- Fuck you.

729
00:48:18,815 --> 00:48:22,319
- Fuck you? I would bend you over...
- Fuck you!

730
00:48:23,403 --> 00:48:25,531
Fuck you! Get the fuck out of here!

731
00:48:25,614 --> 00:48:27,157
Fuck you, man. Get the fuck out!

732
00:48:30,661 --> 00:48:33,330
- Frigid bitches.
- Frigid bitches.

733
00:48:33,413 --> 00:48:35,165
That guy's an asshole.

734
00:48:35,249 --> 00:48:37,000
- Sorry.
- Don't apologize.

735
00:48:52,850 --> 00:48:57,229
There was an incident in
Venice at the Film Festival.

736
00:48:57,312 --> 00:48:59,273
It was '98.

737
00:48:59,982 --> 00:49:01,525
What happened?

738
00:49:05,279 --> 00:49:08,782
What makes me most
angry is the silence.

739
00:49:09,408 --> 00:49:12,953
No one spoke out then, and
no one is talking about it now.

740
00:49:13,829 --> 00:49:16,832
He built the silence,
and people complied.

741
00:49:17,416 --> 00:49:19,877
He produced fear and intimidation.

742
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,462
The only alternative,
seemingly, was to quit

743
00:49:22,546 --> 00:49:25,924
and throw away everything you
worked so hard for out the door.

744
00:49:26,008 --> 00:49:28,385
You were terrified you were
gonna be the next target,

745
00:49:28,468 --> 00:49:30,053
so people looked the other way.

746
00:49:30,137 --> 00:49:31,138
Within the company?

747
00:49:31,221 --> 00:49:32,806
Yes, and outside of it.

748
00:49:33,515 --> 00:49:36,143
I mean, he played the press.
He played the agents.

749
00:49:36,226 --> 00:49:37,978
How did he play the press?

750
00:49:38,061 --> 00:49:42,441
By promising them access to stars in
exchange for hushing up some incident.

751
00:49:42,524 --> 00:49:43,692
What sort of incident?

752
00:49:45,110 --> 00:49:46,278
Where do I start?

753
00:49:47,237 --> 00:49:49,448
Harvey had this...
What did they call it?

754
00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:54,995
"A physical altercation" with a
male employee at a conference.

755
00:49:55,579 --> 00:49:57,122
Then they settled with the guy.

756
00:49:57,873 --> 00:49:59,291
And with women?

757
00:50:00,626 --> 00:50:01,627
He pursued them.

758
00:50:02,794 --> 00:50:03,962
Endlessly.

759
00:50:07,716 --> 00:50:09,635
What happened in Venice?

760
00:50:11,762 --> 00:50:14,556
I don't wanna be quoted. Period.

761
00:50:15,307 --> 00:50:16,475
Understood.

762
00:50:20,604 --> 00:50:22,231
We were in Harvey's suite,

763
00:50:22,314 --> 00:50:24,691
and there were a bunch
of people in there.

764
00:50:25,275 --> 00:50:29,696
And there were these two assistants,
and they were sitting there trembling.

765
00:50:30,447 --> 00:50:32,157
And Weinstein was there?

766
00:50:32,241 --> 00:50:33,283
Yes.

767
00:50:34,409 --> 00:50:36,912
He was talking film and ignoring them,

768
00:50:37,996 --> 00:50:39,998
but they were literally vibrating.

769
00:50:40,874 --> 00:50:44,211
One with fear, the other with anger.

770
00:50:46,547 --> 00:50:47,965
Can you tell me their names?

771
00:50:49,132 --> 00:50:50,217
Yes.

772
00:50:55,514 --> 00:50:58,433
And there's another
woman you should call.

773
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,771
The two assistants are Rowena
Chiu and Zelda Perkins,

774
00:51:02,855 --> 00:51:05,899
and we have a third name, Laura Madden.

775
00:51:05,983 --> 00:51:08,694
And none of them are
returning our calls.

776
00:51:08,777 --> 00:51:10,487
So? Show up in person.

777
00:51:11,071 --> 00:51:12,573
Yeah.

778
00:51:13,115 --> 00:51:17,202
They live in London,
Silicon Valley and Wales.

779
00:51:17,828 --> 00:51:19,288
Can you get on a plane?

780
00:51:26,587 --> 00:51:29,131
Let me work it out with Ron.

781
00:51:32,509 --> 00:51:34,845
But yeah, of course.

782
00:51:34,928 --> 00:51:38,432
Documents, verification.
You know what we need.

783
00:52:22,601 --> 00:52:23,602
Hi.

784
00:52:24,561 --> 00:52:27,064
Sorry to bother you.
I can see you're busy.

785
00:52:27,147 --> 00:52:29,399
I was looking for Rowena Chiu.

786
00:52:30,484 --> 00:52:31,735
Hi.

787
00:52:31,818 --> 00:52:35,197
Rowena's not here right now.
Can I give her a message?

788
00:52:35,906 --> 00:52:37,282
When will she be back?

789
00:52:37,366 --> 00:52:40,452
My wife's out of the
country for a while.

790
00:52:40,536 --> 00:52:41,537
I see.

791
00:52:42,162 --> 00:52:44,206
I did try calling her.

792
00:52:44,289 --> 00:52:45,666
This a work thing?

793
00:52:45,749 --> 00:52:46,750
No.

794
00:52:46,834 --> 00:52:49,211
You must be Andrew? Andrew Cheung?

795
00:52:49,294 --> 00:52:51,797
I'm Jodi Kantor. I'm from
The New York Times.

796
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,048
Okay.

797
00:52:53,924 --> 00:52:56,552
So, what did you wanna
talk to Rowena about?

798
00:52:57,553 --> 00:53:00,806
We're researching a
story about Miramax.

799
00:53:00,889 --> 00:53:02,891
I flew in from New York.

800
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,853
- You came all this way?
- Yeah.

801
00:53:07,479 --> 00:53:09,898
Um, could we talk for a minute?

802
00:53:10,524 --> 00:53:11,525
Sure.

803
00:53:12,192 --> 00:53:17,155
So, I've been speaking with people
who worked for Harvey Weinstein.

804
00:53:18,115 --> 00:53:20,868
You're going quite far back
with Rowena's time there.

805
00:53:21,451 --> 00:53:23,787
We're writing about
his treatment of women.

806
00:53:23,871 --> 00:53:25,080
Right.

807
00:53:25,163 --> 00:53:27,457
And Rowena fits in how?

808
00:53:29,251 --> 00:53:32,504
Your wife worked at
Miramax for some years.

809
00:53:33,338 --> 00:53:36,216
Yes. Mainly in Hong Kong.

810
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,636
I'd like to hear about her experiences
working for Weinstein.

811
00:53:40,554 --> 00:53:42,598
I'm confused why you can't
discuss it on the phone.

812
00:53:43,891 --> 00:53:47,186
I did try. It is always
better to actually meet.

813
00:53:50,230 --> 00:53:51,356
So…

814
00:53:53,066 --> 00:53:55,152
And this is off the record.

815
00:53:56,153 --> 00:53:57,487
My understanding is that...

816
00:53:58,322 --> 00:54:00,199
that Weinstein possibly
victimized your wife

817
00:54:00,282 --> 00:54:01,867
when Rowena first worked for him.

818
00:54:05,662 --> 00:54:08,749
Rowena's never mentioned
anything like that to me.

819
00:54:09,583 --> 00:54:12,628
What do you mean by "victimized"?
Can you be more specific?

820
00:54:14,254 --> 00:54:18,133
I was told that your wife may have
received a settlement from Weinstein.

821
00:54:19,009 --> 00:54:22,221
Do I look like a guy whose
wife got a settlement?

822
00:54:23,972 --> 00:54:26,433
Could you have confused
her with someone else?

823
00:54:26,517 --> 00:54:29,770
I apologize for taking
up your time. I'm...

824
00:54:30,479 --> 00:54:32,773
Would you just please
give this to Rowena?

825
00:54:33,690 --> 00:54:37,027
If you're talking to these other people,
why do you need to talk to Rowena?

826
00:54:37,653 --> 00:54:41,323
And if you turn up in my driveway,
what kind of victimization?

827
00:54:42,366 --> 00:54:43,450
It's complex.

828
00:54:43,534 --> 00:54:45,786
I'm asking you to expand on it.

829
00:54:46,370 --> 00:54:49,289
I really think it would be best…

830
00:54:50,791 --> 00:54:52,626
if you asked Rowena.

831
00:54:52,709 --> 00:54:54,127
Have a good day.

832
00:55:07,307 --> 00:55:09,226
<i>I just couldn't lie to him.</i>

833
00:55:09,309 --> 00:55:10,894
<i>And then it turns out he didn't know.</i>

834
00:55:11,645 --> 00:55:13,438
<i>What if London is a repeat of this?</i>

835
00:55:13,522 --> 00:55:14,690
It won't be.

836
00:55:15,274 --> 00:55:17,359
I spoke with an
employment lawyer in the UK

837
00:55:17,442 --> 00:55:20,821
and he told me that it
was irresponsible of me

838
00:55:20,904 --> 00:55:22,865
even to ask about breaching NDAs.

839
00:55:22,948 --> 00:55:24,408
No one does it. They would get sued.

840
00:55:24,491 --> 00:55:26,201
Fuck that guy.

841
00:55:26,285 --> 00:55:28,537
Honestly, Jodi, fuck
him. He has no idea.

842
00:55:29,371 --> 00:55:31,248
<i>I wish I smoked or something.</i>

843
00:55:32,249 --> 00:55:35,169
I'm staring at an actual brick wall

844
00:55:35,252 --> 00:55:37,296
and all I can think is, "Fuck."

845
00:55:37,379 --> 00:55:38,589
That's okay.

846
00:55:39,715 --> 00:55:40,716
Fuck.

847
00:55:41,383 --> 00:55:43,552
And documents.

848
00:55:53,145 --> 00:55:54,479
So, Laura,

849
00:55:54,563 --> 00:55:57,191
we are looking at a full mastectomy.

850
00:55:57,274 --> 00:55:59,943
And we should schedule
this as soon as possible.

851
00:56:01,195 --> 00:56:02,696
I understand.

852
00:56:12,414 --> 00:56:13,665
<i>Hello.</i>

853
00:56:13,749 --> 00:56:15,000
Hi.

854
00:56:15,083 --> 00:56:17,920
Laura, this is Jodi Kantor
from The New York Times.

855
00:56:18,003 --> 00:56:20,547
Um, I hope you've been
getting my messages.

856
00:56:20,631 --> 00:56:23,926
I'm in California right now, but
I'm coming to London tomorrow.

857
00:56:24,510 --> 00:56:25,844
Hi, Jodi.

858
00:56:26,345 --> 00:56:27,638
Hi.

859
00:56:27,721 --> 00:56:29,097
Um…

860
00:56:29,181 --> 00:56:31,934
I'm so happy to be
finally speaking with you.

861
00:56:32,017 --> 00:56:35,187
I understand that you once
worked for Harvey Weinstein

862
00:56:35,270 --> 00:56:37,147
in the London office of Miramax.

863
00:56:37,231 --> 00:56:38,482
Is that right?

864
00:56:40,234 --> 00:56:41,360
Laura?

865
00:56:48,325 --> 00:56:49,326
Laura…

866
00:56:51,620 --> 00:56:53,163
Can I do anything to help?

867
00:56:53,789 --> 00:56:56,542
<i>No. I can't talk about this right now.</i>

868
00:57:05,968 --> 00:57:07,845
We're tied. You have
the same pieces as me.

869
00:57:09,763 --> 00:57:11,515
Hey.

870
00:57:11,598 --> 00:57:13,725
Hey, my love. Come here.

871
00:57:17,187 --> 00:57:18,397
Hey, now.

872
00:57:19,898 --> 00:57:21,692
It's going to be all right.

873
00:57:22,401 --> 00:57:25,487
- It's going to be all right.
- I'm so sorry, Mum.

874
00:57:56,018 --> 00:57:57,019
Here we are.

875
00:58:00,147 --> 00:58:01,148
Tea.

876
00:58:02,316 --> 00:58:03,358
Thank you.

877
00:58:22,336 --> 00:58:24,755
You know, other people
have tried to write this story.

878
00:58:24,838 --> 00:58:26,131
He kills it every time.

879
00:58:26,215 --> 00:58:27,966
We're aware of that.

880
00:58:29,384 --> 00:58:31,512
And we're not gonna
let that happen to us.

881
00:58:35,891 --> 00:58:37,392
Are you okay, Zelda?

882
00:58:37,476 --> 00:58:38,519
Yes.

883
00:58:40,270 --> 00:58:41,271
So,

884
00:58:42,648 --> 00:58:44,566
you started working at
Miramax when you were 21?

885
00:58:44,650 --> 00:58:47,528
Yes. I was an assistant
at the London office.

886
00:58:48,195 --> 00:58:49,446
And how was it?

887
00:58:49,530 --> 00:58:50,822
It was great,

888
00:58:50,906 --> 00:58:53,242
but it would shift when
Harvey came to town.

889
00:58:53,325 --> 00:58:54,868
In what way?

890
00:58:54,952 --> 00:58:58,205
Everyone became on call to Harvey.

891
00:58:58,872 --> 00:59:00,332
And what would that entail?

892
00:59:01,458 --> 00:59:04,294
Script meetings, discussions,

893
00:59:04,378 --> 00:59:05,921
and more personal stuff.

894
00:59:06,505 --> 00:59:07,881
Like?

895
00:59:07,965 --> 00:59:12,052
For instance, I would have to go
to his hotel and wake Harvey up.

896
00:59:12,886 --> 00:59:15,973
Run a shower for him.
Get him out of bed.

897
00:59:16,056 --> 00:59:17,683
He would usually be naked.

898
00:59:17,766 --> 00:59:19,643
And he might try to pull me onto him.

899
00:59:20,352 --> 00:59:22,980
- What did you do?
- Fend him off.

900
00:59:23,063 --> 00:59:25,440
I found humor or
aggression worked best.

901
00:59:26,149 --> 00:59:29,403
Harvey was either excited or furious.

902
00:59:29,945 --> 00:59:31,572
You never knew which it would be.

903
00:59:32,614 --> 00:59:35,868
Did anyone on the team
give you advice about him?

904
00:59:35,951 --> 00:59:37,244
Yes.

905
00:59:37,327 --> 00:59:40,539
Once, one girl told me to
always wear my puffer jacket,

906
00:59:40,622 --> 00:59:43,333
and to always sit in an armchair,

907
00:59:43,417 --> 00:59:45,460
never the sofa next to him,

908
00:59:45,544 --> 00:59:46,837
which helped.

909
00:59:47,838 --> 00:59:50,799
And that's how I knew that it
wasn't only happening to me.

910
00:59:52,009 --> 00:59:53,927
What was happening exactly?

911
00:59:54,011 --> 00:59:55,012
Bullying.

912
00:59:55,929 --> 00:59:57,097
Emotional abuse.

913
00:59:58,015 --> 00:59:59,892
I was just too young to understand it.

914
01:00:01,351 --> 01:00:03,937
Harvey wanted people to submit to him.

915
01:00:04,021 --> 01:00:05,022
And if they didn't?

916
01:00:05,105 --> 01:00:07,399
Well, then he'd roar. And he'd spit.

917
01:00:08,150 --> 01:00:09,985
He could destroy someone in seconds.

918
01:00:11,570 --> 01:00:12,905
Were you scared of him?

919
01:00:13,989 --> 01:00:16,241
Yes. We all were.

920
01:00:19,411 --> 01:00:21,580
So, three years into this,

921
01:00:21,663 --> 01:00:23,749
you were at the Venice Film Festival.

922
01:00:26,877 --> 01:00:28,504
I resigned after that.

923
01:00:29,588 --> 01:00:30,631
What happened?

924
01:00:30,714 --> 01:00:32,591
I can't tell you all of it.

925
01:00:32,674 --> 01:00:34,176
What can you tell me?

926
01:00:44,144 --> 01:00:45,687
<i>There was a new assistant.</i>

927
01:00:45,771 --> 01:00:46,897
<i>She was my age.</i>

928
01:00:47,731 --> 01:00:49,691
<i>She was great. She was very smart.</i>

929
01:00:51,109 --> 01:00:55,155
<i>And she was doing Harvey's evening
script meeting alone for the first time,</i>

930
01:00:55,239 --> 01:00:57,741
<i>and I told her to call
me if he got difficult.</i>

931
01:00:59,368 --> 01:01:01,078
Was he pursuing her?

932
01:01:01,161 --> 01:01:02,663
No.

933
01:01:02,746 --> 01:01:05,791
Harvey said, "I don't like
Jewish or Asian women."

934
01:01:06,917 --> 01:01:08,418
- But that night...
- She called you.

935
01:01:08,502 --> 01:01:09,336
No.

936
01:01:10,504 --> 01:01:12,798
<i>The following morning she came to me,</i>

937
01:01:13,966 --> 01:01:15,133
<i>and she was sobbing.</i>

938
01:01:15,217 --> 01:01:16,844
<i>I mean, she was hysterical.</i>

939
01:01:16,927 --> 01:01:18,428
Rowena, what happened?

940
01:01:19,513 --> 01:01:20,514
Sit.

941
01:01:20,597 --> 01:01:22,766
<i>- And I held her.</i>
- What is it?

942
01:01:23,725 --> 01:01:26,436
Did she tell you what he did?

943
01:01:28,021 --> 01:01:29,106
Not exactly.

944
01:01:29,857 --> 01:01:31,525
Only that no one must know.

945
01:01:31,608 --> 01:01:32,693
But I knew.

946
01:01:33,235 --> 01:01:34,820
I knew that he must've…

947
01:01:36,989 --> 01:01:38,282
What?

948
01:01:38,365 --> 01:01:40,033
She was so upset.

949
01:01:40,742 --> 01:01:44,037
I knew that it had to be
the worst possible thing.

950
01:01:45,831 --> 01:01:48,292
I calmed her down, and I went
straight to confront Harvey.

951
01:01:48,876 --> 01:01:51,378
He was in a meeting with Scorsese,

952
01:01:52,129 --> 01:01:54,756
who hated him, so it was
a really big deal for Harvey.

953
01:01:55,299 --> 01:01:57,342
And I went straight up to him,

954
01:01:57,426 --> 01:02:00,996
and I said very clearly, "You
need to come with me right now."

955
01:02:01,035 --> 01:02:03,022
You went right up to
them and confronted him?

956
01:02:03,061 --> 01:02:05,267
Yeah. I was so angry.

957
01:02:05,934 --> 01:02:07,644
And in front of everyone,

958
01:02:07,728 --> 01:02:09,980
he stood up, and…

959
01:02:11,064 --> 01:02:12,649
he followed me like a lamb.

960
01:02:14,484 --> 01:02:16,904
And then I knew, then I knew he did it.

961
01:02:18,363 --> 01:02:20,199
- And then?
- He denied it.

962
01:02:20,282 --> 01:02:22,201
He said, "I swear on
my wife and kids' lives

963
01:02:22,284 --> 01:02:24,411
that I did not assault
that young woman."

964
01:02:24,995 --> 01:02:27,289
And then I knew that he was lying.

965
01:02:27,372 --> 01:02:30,417
He always used that line as a
get-out-of-jail-free card. Always.

966
01:02:31,585 --> 01:02:35,422
Did the assistant
report it to the police?

967
01:02:35,506 --> 01:02:37,591
No. She told no one.

968
01:02:39,927 --> 01:02:43,305
We came back to London.
We both resigned.

969
01:02:43,388 --> 01:02:44,890
I told my direct superior,

970
01:02:44,973 --> 01:02:48,185
who suggested we get
ourselves a good lawyer.

971
01:02:49,102 --> 01:02:50,896
I had no idea where to get one.

972
01:02:50,979 --> 01:02:53,232
I found a company close to the office.

973
01:02:53,315 --> 01:02:55,359
And then I thought it would be simple.

974
01:02:55,442 --> 01:02:56,818
Criminal proceedings.

975
01:02:56,902 --> 01:02:58,820
But our lawyer said we had no chance

976
01:02:58,904 --> 01:03:00,989
and the only thing to do was
to agree to a settlement.

977
01:03:01,073 --> 01:03:02,407
And I said categorically no,

978
01:03:02,491 --> 01:03:05,619
that no money should change hands
and that we just wanted to stop him.

979
01:03:05,702 --> 01:03:07,663
And no UK police were involved?

980
01:03:07,746 --> 01:03:09,248
We had no case.

981
01:03:09,331 --> 01:03:12,251
We had no evidence and
no police report from Venice.

982
01:03:12,334 --> 01:03:15,921
And, you see, with rape, it is impossibly
difficult to get a prosecution.

983
01:03:16,004 --> 01:03:19,341
And the lawyers kept saying damage
limitation was the only way to go.

984
01:03:19,424 --> 01:03:23,470
So I said, "All right, then. We
have our own very real demands."

985
01:03:23,554 --> 01:03:26,306
Conditions that Harvey would
have to meet if we were to sign.

986
01:03:26,390 --> 01:03:28,016
And what were those conditions?

987
01:03:28,100 --> 01:03:31,395
We demanded that if Harvey had
another settlement within two years,

988
01:03:31,478 --> 01:03:34,231
that it had to be reported to
Disney or else he would be fired.

989
01:03:34,857 --> 01:03:36,859
Another was that he
would go to therapy,

990
01:03:36,942 --> 01:03:40,112
with me present initially, so that
he couldn't lie to the therapist.

991
01:03:40,195 --> 01:03:44,992
We demanded that HR would put in a
system to protect the women and staff.

992
01:03:45,075 --> 01:03:48,412
And it felt like if we
could achieve all of those,

993
01:03:48,495 --> 01:03:50,497
then that's what our
silence was paying for.

994
01:03:50,581 --> 01:03:53,166
That we were paying for him to stop.

995
01:03:54,710 --> 01:03:55,961
So we signed.

996
01:03:56,670 --> 01:03:59,006
And they had their own
insane conditions for us.

997
01:03:59,715 --> 01:04:00,966
What were they?

998
01:04:02,467 --> 01:04:05,721
I tried to commit them to memory.
They wouldn't give us our own copy.

999
01:04:05,804 --> 01:04:06,930
What?

1000
01:04:07,014 --> 01:04:09,474
I was only given visitation
rights to my own settlement.

1001
01:04:09,558 --> 01:04:10,642
That's in...

1002
01:04:12,186 --> 01:04:13,353
That's incredible.

1003
01:04:13,979 --> 01:04:15,689
But you memorized them?

1004
01:04:16,940 --> 01:04:18,775
I asked for letters, too,

1005
01:04:18,859 --> 01:04:21,862
which stated some of the conditions.

1006
01:04:22,571 --> 01:04:23,697
One said,

1007
01:04:23,780 --> 01:04:29,995
"We will make best endeavors to not help
the police in a criminal or civil case."

1008
01:04:30,871 --> 01:04:34,625
We weren't allowed to talk
to our family or a doctor.

1009
01:04:36,710 --> 01:04:38,295
So finally we signed.

1010
01:04:39,379 --> 01:04:40,881
They gave us some money.

1011
01:04:42,132 --> 01:04:44,343
And I felt completely broken.

1012
01:04:52,684 --> 01:04:54,603
<i>I interviewed for other
jobs afterwards,</i>

1013
01:04:54,686 --> 01:04:57,189
<i>but everyone kept saying,
"Why did you leave Harvey?"</i>

1014
01:05:03,529 --> 01:05:05,072
<i>They all assumed that I'd…</i>

1015
01:05:06,156 --> 01:05:07,991
been with him, you know?

1016
01:05:08,075 --> 01:05:09,493
It was horrible.

1017
01:05:11,912 --> 01:05:13,247
What did you do then?

1018
01:05:13,872 --> 01:05:15,666
I went to visit a friend in Guatemala,

1019
01:05:16,291 --> 01:05:17,668
and I stayed for five years.

1020
01:05:19,044 --> 01:05:21,421
I had no chance of ever
working in film again

1021
01:05:21,505 --> 01:05:23,131
and I couldn't speak freely,

1022
01:05:24,299 --> 01:05:25,425
so I worked with horses.

1023
01:05:31,390 --> 01:05:32,724
You've lost a lot.

1024
01:05:40,524 --> 01:05:42,693
These are the original letters.

1025
01:05:44,486 --> 01:05:46,363
I had to have their permission

1026
01:05:47,072 --> 01:05:49,408
if I wanted to contact a therapist

1027
01:05:49,491 --> 01:05:50,951
or speak to an accountant.

1028
01:05:52,786 --> 01:05:58,166
I was "never to speak to any other media,
now or hereafter existing, about it."

1029
01:05:59,793 --> 01:06:00,794
Jodi,

1030
01:06:01,628 --> 01:06:03,505
this is bigger than Weinstein.

1031
01:06:04,089 --> 01:06:07,509
This is about the system
protecting abusers.

1032
01:06:09,094 --> 01:06:10,762
I want you to take these,

1033
01:06:11,847 --> 01:06:13,849
and I want you to use them.

1034
01:06:18,604 --> 01:06:19,897
I've got to go now.

1035
01:06:41,585 --> 01:06:42,794
<i>Is it dark there?</i>

1036
01:06:42,878 --> 01:06:45,255
<i>It's, like, four o'clock here.</i>

1037
01:06:45,339 --> 01:06:47,382
<i>Did you drink tea?</i>

1038
01:06:47,466 --> 01:06:49,051
A little bit.

1039
01:06:49,593 --> 01:06:51,094
<i>Who are you meeting?</i>

1040
01:06:52,054 --> 01:06:53,805
Just a few women.

1041
01:06:53,889 --> 01:06:56,892
<i>Can you find me a shell?
And a cat hat for Violet?</i>

1042
01:06:56,975 --> 01:06:58,685
I will work on that.

1043
01:06:58,769 --> 01:07:00,604
Have you been okay without me?

1044
01:07:01,104 --> 01:07:02,898
<i>Sure. You're back tomorrow.</i>

1045
01:07:02,981 --> 01:07:04,274
I am.

1046
01:07:04,358 --> 01:07:06,401
<i>Yay!</i>

1047
01:07:07,319 --> 01:07:08,320
<i>So,</i>

1048
01:07:09,071 --> 01:07:11,740
<i>what did they do, the
women you're meeting?</i>

1049
01:07:12,366 --> 01:07:14,326
We'll talk about it when you're older.

1050
01:07:15,118 --> 01:07:17,496
<i>Are they criminals? Bank robbers?</i>

1051
01:07:17,579 --> 01:07:18,622
No.

1052
01:07:19,540 --> 01:07:20,666
<i>Was it rape?</i>

1053
01:07:24,878 --> 01:07:28,340
Talia, I don't think I've ever
heard you use that word.

1054
01:07:29,383 --> 01:07:31,927
<i>Boys say it all the time. And girls.</i>

1055
01:07:32,803 --> 01:07:35,764
They shouldn't. That word
shouldn't be used casually.

1056
01:07:36,431 --> 01:07:37,474
<i>I'm sorry.</i>

1057
01:07:38,058 --> 01:07:40,185
No. You did nothing wrong.

1058
01:07:40,269 --> 01:07:41,770
<i>Are you angry with me?</i>

1059
01:07:41,854 --> 01:07:43,438
No, Talia, no.

1060
01:07:43,522 --> 01:07:47,359
I miss you. I miss you like someone
took a piece out of me.

1061
01:07:50,571 --> 01:07:53,198
I lost you, Talia. Talia!

1062
01:08:10,799 --> 01:08:12,092
Oh, God.

1063
01:08:12,176 --> 01:08:13,594
They're trying to survive,

1064
01:08:13,677 --> 01:08:17,305
and he's there 'cause
he's hosting the show.

1065
01:08:17,389 --> 01:08:19,433
And he's probably going to help them.

1066
01:08:19,515 --> 01:08:21,475
- He's going to kill them.
- Hello?

1067
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,770
- What? No.
- May I ask who's calling?

1068
01:08:23,854 --> 01:08:26,189
Probably going to help
them if they need to get in.

1069
01:08:26,273 --> 01:08:27,733
Now, who's Potts?

1070
01:08:27,816 --> 01:08:29,859
- I know, but they don't look like...
- Mum.

1071
01:08:31,569 --> 01:08:33,279
It's another call from America.

1072
01:08:33,363 --> 01:08:35,948
I told you, sweetie, just
tell any journalist, "No."

1073
01:08:36,033 --> 01:08:38,118
No, she says you worked together.

1074
01:08:39,161 --> 01:08:40,370
Pamela Lubell?

1075
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,082
Hywel wants to take his
yellow pillow to Cornwall.

1076
01:08:45,167 --> 01:08:47,127
- No, we're not taking...
- So?

1077
01:08:47,211 --> 01:08:49,046
We're not taking any pillows.

1078
01:08:49,129 --> 01:08:50,214
Why?

1079
01:08:50,296 --> 01:08:51,840
Pamela?

1080
01:08:52,549 --> 01:08:53,550
God.

1081
01:08:55,594 --> 01:08:58,805
Hi, Pamela. How are
you? It's been decades.

1082
01:08:58,889 --> 01:09:02,684
<i>I know, Laura. It's really
been a while. How's life?</i>

1083
01:09:02,768 --> 01:09:03,852
It's good.

1084
01:09:04,435 --> 01:09:06,188
<i>How's everything? How are you?</i>

1085
01:09:07,189 --> 01:09:08,649
Yeah, I'm okay.

1086
01:09:09,274 --> 01:09:10,734
<i>That's great.</i>

1087
01:09:10,817 --> 01:09:13,904
<i>Laura, have you had
any calls from reporters</i>

1088
01:09:13,987 --> 01:09:16,031
<i>trying to write stories about Harvey?</i>

1089
01:09:16,782 --> 01:09:18,700
Uh, I have, actually. Yes.

1090
01:09:18,783 --> 01:09:20,577
I didn't talk to them.

1091
01:09:21,411 --> 01:09:23,247
<i>Good. That's good to hear.</i>

1092
01:09:23,330 --> 01:09:25,249
<i>Cockroach journalists.</i>

1093
01:09:25,332 --> 01:09:27,792
<i>It was great, wasn't it? Back then?</i>

1094
01:09:27,876 --> 01:09:29,962
<i>Harvey was always very generous.</i>

1095
01:09:30,921 --> 01:09:32,589
That wasn't my experience.

1096
01:09:33,715 --> 01:09:37,010
<i>Laura, can I have your assurance
that you won't talk to anyone?</i>

1097
01:09:37,803 --> 01:09:40,096
What? What did you say?

1098
01:09:40,889 --> 01:09:43,392
<i>If you have a project,
I can take it to Harvey.</i>

1099
01:09:44,184 --> 01:09:45,185
I don't.

1100
01:09:45,894 --> 01:09:47,645
And I'll talk to who I please.

1101
01:10:02,327 --> 01:10:03,996
- Good evening.
- Good evening.

1102
01:10:04,079 --> 01:10:07,416
I need to book a flight to Cornwall
first thing in the morning.

1103
01:10:07,499 --> 01:10:08,876
Flight to Cornwall tomorrow?

1104
01:10:08,959 --> 01:10:12,004
Yes. To Newquay airport?

1105
01:10:12,087 --> 01:10:13,505
- Newquay.
- Newquay.

1106
01:10:13,589 --> 01:10:15,299
You'd normally just get a train.

1107
01:10:15,382 --> 01:10:16,592
Okay, train, then.

1108
01:10:30,522 --> 01:10:32,774
This is a nice place for a vacation.

1109
01:10:32,858 --> 01:10:33,984
- Yeah.
- Mom.

1110
01:10:34,067 --> 01:10:35,068
Hi.

1111
01:10:35,152 --> 01:10:37,237
Um, Hywel wants to play
at the rocks. Is that okay?

1112
01:10:37,321 --> 01:10:38,614
- Yeah, sure.
- Okay.

1113
01:10:40,782 --> 01:10:42,284
Is that your eldest?

1114
01:10:42,367 --> 01:10:43,702
Yes.

1115
01:10:44,995 --> 01:10:46,580
Yes. She's 13.

1116
01:10:49,041 --> 01:10:50,209
You grew up in Ireland?

1117
01:10:50,292 --> 01:10:52,211
I did, yes.

1118
01:10:53,378 --> 01:10:58,008
And your first job was
wrangling extras in '92?

1119
01:10:58,091 --> 01:11:00,177
They were shooting near us.

1120
01:11:00,260 --> 01:11:01,345
I loved it.

1121
01:11:02,221 --> 01:11:04,973
And then I heard that Miramax
were making a film nearby,

1122
01:11:05,057 --> 01:11:07,476
and I got a job as a runner on that.

1123
01:11:07,559 --> 01:11:09,478
I was ecstatic. It was great.

1124
01:11:11,396 --> 01:11:14,316
And you met Harvey Weinstein when?

1125
01:11:14,900 --> 01:11:16,318
Soon after that.

1126
01:11:16,401 --> 01:11:19,112
I was going to be
working directly for him.

1127
01:11:19,196 --> 01:11:21,323
Doing errands, answering calls.

1128
01:11:22,115 --> 01:11:24,451
I was very happy to be asked.

1129
01:11:27,037 --> 01:11:28,163
<i>He was charming.</i>

1130
01:11:28,247 --> 01:11:32,167
<i>He was saying he'd heard
how hard I worked.</i>

1131
01:11:32,251 --> 01:11:34,962
<i>And I was just excited.</i>

1132
01:11:36,046 --> 01:11:37,297
<i>I was 21, you know.</i>

1133
01:11:37,381 --> 01:11:40,217
<i>Very young, but incredibly keen.</i>

1134
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:45,639
<i>So when he said he'd give me a
permanent job at the London office,</i>

1135
01:11:45,722 --> 01:11:47,391
<i>I felt so happy.</i>

1136
01:11:48,517 --> 01:11:50,185
<i>He said that in the meeting?</i>

1137
01:11:50,269 --> 01:11:51,562
<i>Yes.</i>

1138
01:11:51,645 --> 01:11:55,065
He was in his bathrobe
when he opened the door,

1139
01:11:55,148 --> 01:11:58,777
but I thought that was
maybe very Hollywood.

1140
01:11:59,862 --> 01:12:01,780
But quite soon into talking,

1141
01:12:02,698 --> 01:12:04,950
he said would I give him a massage.

1142
01:12:07,744 --> 01:12:08,912
I said, "No."

1143
01:12:09,872 --> 01:12:13,292
He was very matter-of-fact. He
said, "It's not a romantic request."

1144
01:12:13,375 --> 01:12:15,127
Everyone does it for him.

1145
01:12:15,836 --> 01:12:17,254
It's part of the job.

1146
01:12:20,340 --> 01:12:25,304
So, I suddenly thought that I
was the problem, you know.

1147
01:12:25,387 --> 01:12:28,056
That I was the one
who was sexualizing it.

1148
01:12:28,974 --> 01:12:30,976
That I was just young and uptight.

1149
01:12:32,269 --> 01:12:33,270
So, I...

1150
01:12:34,938 --> 01:12:37,107
I put my hands on his shoulders,

1151
01:12:37,191 --> 01:12:42,029
but I couldn't actually move
them at all over his body.

1152
01:12:43,071 --> 01:12:45,824
I just stood there. My
hands wouldn't move.

1153
01:12:46,533 --> 01:12:50,787
And then he said he would
give me a massage first…

1154
01:12:51,872 --> 01:12:53,207
to relax me.

1155
01:12:56,251 --> 01:12:57,753
And he said,

1156
01:12:57,836 --> 01:13:01,507
"Look, all the girls
do it. It's just work."

1157
01:13:02,758 --> 01:13:05,177
And then he said, "Take your top off."

1158
01:13:05,761 --> 01:13:07,179
Very matter-of-fact.

1159
01:13:08,263 --> 01:13:09,848
"Take your bra off."

1160
01:13:14,978 --> 01:13:16,063
And I did.

1161
01:13:17,731 --> 01:13:21,318
I was terrified, but I just thought,

1162
01:13:21,985 --> 01:13:24,571
"Get through it. Do it."

1163
01:13:27,074 --> 01:13:28,784
<i>And then my trousers were off.</i>

1164
01:13:28,867 --> 01:13:31,954
<i>And he was standing over me…</i>

1165
01:13:33,121 --> 01:13:34,456
<i>masturbating.</i>

1166
01:13:36,124 --> 01:13:38,544
<i>I asked him to leave me alone.</i>

1167
01:13:39,419 --> 01:13:42,506
<i>But he kept asking
for different things.</i>

1168
01:13:42,589 --> 01:13:45,300
<i>And then he suggested
a shower, and I got up.</i>

1169
01:13:46,885 --> 01:13:49,263
<i>And he carried on…</i>

1170
01:13:50,389 --> 01:13:51,974
<i>masturbating.</i>

1171
01:13:52,641 --> 01:13:54,685
<i>And I kept crying.</i>

1172
01:13:54,768 --> 01:13:57,563
<i>And I was sobbing, and the
water was pouring down,</i>

1173
01:13:57,646 --> 01:14:01,650
<i>and he was still masturbating.</i>

1174
01:14:03,318 --> 01:14:04,486
<i>Then he got angry.</i>

1175
01:14:04,570 --> 01:14:07,739
<i>I think my crying was
so loud, it put him off.</i>

1176
01:14:09,032 --> 01:14:11,743
<i>And he left the bathroom,</i>

1177
01:14:11,827 --> 01:14:13,912
<i>and I locked the door.</i>

1178
01:14:14,705 --> 01:14:17,332
<i>And I could still hear him…</i>

1179
01:14:17,416 --> 01:14:18,834
<i>…on the other side.</i>

1180
01:14:19,626 --> 01:14:22,629
<i>Still the sounds of him masturbating.</i>

1181
01:14:25,174 --> 01:14:27,301
<i>Finally, I went back
into the room itself</i>

1182
01:14:27,384 --> 01:14:31,263
<i>and grabbed my clothes and
belongings, and I just ran.</i>

1183
01:14:31,346 --> 01:14:33,724
<i>I ran down the street.</i>

1184
01:14:33,807 --> 01:14:37,311
<i>I've never run that fast in my life.</i>

1185
01:14:43,650 --> 01:14:45,360
How do you feel about it now?

1186
01:14:52,117 --> 01:14:53,577
I…

1187
01:14:54,745 --> 01:14:56,079
I...

1188
01:14:56,163 --> 01:15:00,250
I feel like it dictated a certain
direction my life took.

1189
01:15:01,460 --> 01:15:05,214
That... I just felt that it was
this huge error of judgment

1190
01:15:05,297 --> 01:15:08,509
that sort of marked me
and all my decisions.

1191
01:15:09,885 --> 01:15:10,886
And...

1192
01:15:13,055 --> 01:15:15,349
I felt such shame…

1193
01:15:17,434 --> 01:15:20,521
that… I let him do that.

1194
01:15:24,024 --> 01:15:26,777
Did you think that he had
done the same to other girls?

1195
01:15:26,860 --> 01:15:28,737
I thought that he must've tried it.

1196
01:15:30,697 --> 01:15:32,950
But that they'd all s...

1197
01:15:34,868 --> 01:15:36,453
they'd all said, "No".

1198
01:15:40,791 --> 01:15:44,086
It was like he took my voice that day.

1199
01:15:46,755 --> 01:15:51,009
Just when I was about
to start finding it.

1200
01:15:59,685 --> 01:16:00,686
Yes?

1201
01:16:00,769 --> 01:16:03,313
<i>I have Harvey Weinstein
on the phone for you.</i>

1202
01:16:04,189 --> 01:16:05,524
Put him through. Thank you.

1203
01:16:08,402 --> 01:16:10,529
<i>Dean, how are you? This is Harvey.</i>

1204
01:16:10,612 --> 01:16:12,281
Hi, Harvey. What can I do for you?

1205
01:16:13,282 --> 01:16:15,617
<i>If I hadn't made movies, I
would've been a journalist.</i>

1206
01:16:17,202 --> 01:16:19,997
<i>Dean, I heard someone was
working on a story about me.</i>

1207
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:22,875
Yes. If you'd like to talk to
the reporters on the record,

1208
01:16:22,958 --> 01:16:23,959
they'd welcome that.

1209
01:16:24,042 --> 01:16:25,085
<i>I wanna talk to you, Dean.</i>

1210
01:16:25,169 --> 01:16:27,296
Well, talk to my reporters
about your concerns.

1211
01:16:27,379 --> 01:16:29,423
I'm sorry. I have work to do.

1212
01:16:29,506 --> 01:16:30,716
<i>Are you gonna hang up?</i>

1213
01:16:30,799 --> 01:16:32,634
Unless you have anything else to say?

1214
01:16:33,302 --> 01:16:34,553
<i>I love the truth.</i>

1215
01:16:35,304 --> 01:16:37,264
<i>People make up stories a lot.</i>

1216
01:16:37,806 --> 01:16:39,224
<i>Be careful with that.</i>

1217
01:16:39,308 --> 01:16:41,226
That's fine, Harvey. Goodbye.

1218
01:16:57,576 --> 01:16:59,203
- Hi, Chanel.
- Hey, Dean.

1219
01:16:59,286 --> 01:17:00,329
Hey, Tim.

1220
01:17:06,460 --> 01:17:07,961
- Matt, you got a minute?
- Yeah.

1221
01:17:09,838 --> 01:17:11,048
So, what do we have?

1222
01:17:11,131 --> 01:17:13,133
Well, the biggest
thing is the documents

1223
01:17:13,217 --> 01:17:15,469
that Jodi got from Zelda
Perkins in London.

1224
01:17:15,552 --> 01:17:17,596
Rose is still off the record,

1225
01:17:17,679 --> 01:17:20,766
but she has given us permission
to write about her settlement.

1226
01:17:20,849 --> 01:17:23,227
We're just trying to figure
out a way to confirm it.

1227
01:17:23,310 --> 01:17:27,064
Harvey offered her a million
dollars recently for her silence.

1228
01:17:27,606 --> 01:17:28,607
And?

1229
01:17:28,690 --> 01:17:31,151
Rose refused, but she doesn't
want us to quote her.

1230
01:17:31,235 --> 01:17:33,862
There are still no on-the-record
sources. NDAs are a problem.

1231
01:17:34,530 --> 01:17:35,864
Laura Madden didn't sign one.

1232
01:17:35,948 --> 01:17:39,243
She's the only ex-assistant
who is technically free to speak.

1233
01:17:39,326 --> 01:17:42,663
Ashley and Gwyneth didn't sign one either,
but they're not ready to go on the record.

1234
01:17:42,746 --> 01:17:45,832
But Laura Madden has to deal with
something very different right now.

1235
01:17:45,916 --> 01:17:48,001
She has breast cancer.
She has to go into surgery.

1236
01:17:48,085 --> 01:17:49,878
So, it's not likely.

1237
01:17:49,962 --> 01:17:52,047
I'm still leaving messages
for Rowena Chiu,

1238
01:17:52,130 --> 01:17:53,757
but there's no engagement.

1239
01:17:53,841 --> 01:17:55,717
So, no more proven settlements.

1240
01:17:55,801 --> 01:17:58,762
Ambra Battilana Gutierrez
almost certainly settled.

1241
01:17:58,846 --> 01:18:00,931
And John Schmidt confirmed
that Miramax settled

1242
01:18:01,014 --> 01:18:02,391
with the woman I visited in Queens.

1243
01:18:02,474 --> 01:18:04,768
Anything more on the article
from The New Yorker?

1244
01:18:04,852 --> 01:18:05,853
No.

1245
01:18:06,770 --> 01:18:09,815
Lanny Davis and David Boies
wanna come to talk to us.

1246
01:18:10,607 --> 01:18:11,608
What do you think?

1247
01:18:11,692 --> 01:18:15,362
Don't we wanna wait and push for an
on-the-record interview with Weinstein?

1248
01:18:15,445 --> 01:18:16,947
It's your call, Binky.

1249
01:18:17,030 --> 01:18:20,617
I'd like to talk to Lanny, at
least. See what he has to say.

1250
01:18:21,410 --> 01:18:23,120
Harvey's not always that rational.

1251
01:18:23,203 --> 01:18:26,832
The reason I'm here as his representative
is not to try to kill anything.

1252
01:18:26,915 --> 01:18:30,961
I wanna know that if you're including
something like Rose McGowan's claim,

1253
01:18:31,044 --> 01:18:32,296
then we can defend that.

1254
01:18:32,379 --> 01:18:33,422
Of course.

1255
01:18:34,173 --> 01:18:35,174
Please.

1256
01:18:38,844 --> 01:18:41,263
I know you'll be investigating
with due diligence.

1257
01:18:42,723 --> 01:18:45,392
Lanny, you'll have every
chance to respond.

1258
01:18:47,603 --> 01:18:49,605
- Uh...
- And I trust it's okay to record this?

1259
01:18:49,688 --> 01:18:50,856
Oh, of course. Sure.

1260
01:18:52,149 --> 01:18:56,069
I don't expect you to name sources,
but if it's possible for you

1261
01:18:56,153 --> 01:18:59,865
to let me know overall
what your story's about?

1262
01:18:59,948 --> 01:19:03,368
We're looking into problematic
behavior towards women by Weinstein.

1263
01:19:04,369 --> 01:19:05,370
Okay.

1264
01:19:07,164 --> 01:19:10,751
Harvey adamantly denies any
allegation of rape or assault.

1265
01:19:10,834 --> 01:19:12,085
Nothing criminal.

1266
01:19:13,045 --> 01:19:16,757
But he is aware of complaints
about his treatment of women,

1267
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:19,051
and he is working on that.

1268
01:19:20,052 --> 01:19:22,679
Powerful men of an older generation

1269
01:19:23,472 --> 01:19:26,892
are changing their understanding of
the meaning of the word "consensual."

1270
01:19:26,975 --> 01:19:31,647
Why women don't feel it's consensual
even if a man convinces himself it is.

1271
01:19:32,689 --> 01:19:34,149
Do you wanna expand on that?

1272
01:19:35,025 --> 01:19:39,947
Uh, I believe there's a story to
be told about the evolution of men,

1273
01:19:40,030 --> 01:19:42,533
and, in particular,
Harvey, on this subject.

1274
01:19:43,575 --> 01:19:45,661
Would he be willing
to talk to us about it?

1275
01:19:45,744 --> 01:19:47,079
On the record?

1276
01:19:48,789 --> 01:19:52,251
He has to deal with his wife and
children before anything else.

1277
01:19:53,502 --> 01:19:57,673
You're adamant Rose McGowan's
rape accusation is false.

1278
01:19:58,382 --> 01:19:59,383
Why is that?

1279
01:20:00,634 --> 01:20:03,637
Did she tell anybody right away?
Did she show any signs of distress?

1280
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,306
She told her manager and a lawyer.

1281
01:20:08,684 --> 01:20:11,311
Harvey was aware that there
was a problem with Rose,

1282
01:20:11,395 --> 01:20:14,481
but not that she was
accusing him of rape.

1283
01:20:14,565 --> 01:20:16,525
So I draw a bright line
on the word "rape."

1284
01:20:16,608 --> 01:20:18,110
Anything below that line,

1285
01:20:19,027 --> 01:20:21,780
uh, he was aware of feelings, concerns.

1286
01:20:22,364 --> 01:20:23,323
Of what kind?

1287
01:20:23,991 --> 01:20:24,992
I'm sorry. What...

1288
01:20:25,075 --> 01:20:28,662
If the concerns were not about
rape, what were they about?

1289
01:20:30,747 --> 01:20:32,833
The only way I can answer is, uh…

1290
01:20:35,169 --> 01:20:40,132
a sense of exploitation because
of that disparate power relationship.

1291
01:20:41,216 --> 01:20:45,262
There's mental coercion
that isn't physical coercion.

1292
01:20:45,345 --> 01:20:49,183
Lisa Bloom has been working with Harvey
to help him recognize the difference.

1293
01:20:49,266 --> 01:20:51,685
- Lisa Bloom?
- Yeah.

1294
01:20:53,145 --> 01:20:58,150
If Harvey had been made aware of
McGowan's concerns at the time,

1295
01:20:58,233 --> 01:20:59,902
how did he respond?

1296
01:21:01,403 --> 01:21:03,864
I think he had dealings
legally with her about them.

1297
01:21:04,907 --> 01:21:07,534
And how would you characterize
those legal dealings?

1298
01:21:10,162 --> 01:21:14,291
I think he became aware that she did not
regard what happened as okay with her.

1299
01:21:14,374 --> 01:21:15,584
I'm not talking about rape.

1300
01:21:15,667 --> 01:21:19,588
I'm talking about the effect
he had on Rose McGowan.

1301
01:21:20,214 --> 01:21:22,466
And that rather than fighting…

1302
01:21:23,884 --> 01:21:26,094
"Rather than fighting"? Then…

1303
01:21:27,054 --> 01:21:28,055
Then what?

1304
01:21:31,350 --> 01:21:34,019
I think he has agreed to settlements

1305
01:21:34,102 --> 01:21:36,730
rather than litigating what
might have been litigated.

1306
01:21:36,813 --> 01:21:39,483
As Harvey saw it, it
was better to settle,

1307
01:21:39,566 --> 01:21:41,443
even if you haven't
done anything wrong.

1308
01:21:42,069 --> 01:21:43,487
He preferred "to settle"?

1309
01:21:45,531 --> 01:21:49,451
Were there other cases of questionable
intimate relations with women

1310
01:21:49,535 --> 01:21:51,119
in which Weinstein settled?

1311
01:21:53,789 --> 01:21:55,040
Let's say for now,

1312
01:21:56,041 --> 01:21:57,459
even on a background basis,

1313
01:21:57,543 --> 01:21:59,962
that I need to find out
what my limits are legally.

1314
01:22:00,546 --> 01:22:04,216
Even if on background,
I'm confirming settlements.

1315
01:22:04,299 --> 01:22:07,928
But the answer is,
yes, there have been.

1316
01:22:11,056 --> 01:22:12,140
How many?

1317
01:22:14,810 --> 01:22:15,811
No.

1318
01:22:19,022 --> 01:22:22,901
To admit to settlements this
early, they're in real trouble.

1319
01:22:22,985 --> 01:22:25,988
We need to find out a number.
We need to corroborate each one.

1320
01:22:26,071 --> 01:22:27,865
I'm on it.

1321
01:22:27,948 --> 01:22:30,534
Have you guys had any
dealings with Diana Filip?

1322
01:22:31,493 --> 01:22:32,327
No.

1323
01:22:32,411 --> 01:22:34,162
I said no to speaking at
a women's conference.

1324
01:22:34,246 --> 01:22:35,539
She just keeps on calling me.

1325
01:22:35,622 --> 01:22:37,124
Did you have her checked out?

1326
01:22:37,207 --> 01:22:40,669
The security consultant says she's legit,
but who has time for these random people?

1327
01:22:54,183 --> 01:22:55,350
Hello?

1328
01:22:55,434 --> 01:22:59,229
<i>I worked at Miramax. Talk to
Irwin Reiter. He hates Weinstein.</i>

1329
01:23:10,657 --> 01:23:12,367
Hey. Are you okay?

1330
01:23:12,451 --> 01:23:13,702
<i>Did I wake you?</i>

1331
01:23:15,329 --> 01:23:17,497
Um, yeah. What's up?

1332
01:23:18,498 --> 01:23:20,501
<i>What do you know about Irwin Reiter?</i>

1333
01:23:22,336 --> 01:23:23,337
Hang on.

1334
01:23:23,879 --> 01:23:25,464
I put together a file on him.

1335
01:23:26,048 --> 01:23:28,592
I need to write a good fucking email.

1336
01:23:40,604 --> 01:23:42,814
Hi. Thanks for meeting me.

1337
01:23:43,524 --> 01:23:44,942
You wanna get me killed?

1338
01:23:52,491 --> 01:23:53,742
So, Irwin,

1339
01:23:54,618 --> 01:23:57,955
you've been an accountant
for the Weinsteins for 30 years.

1340
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:05,420
I pick up the check, and I reserve
the right to leave after five minutes.

1341
01:24:06,171 --> 01:24:07,464
So…

1342
01:24:08,382 --> 01:24:09,758
…what do you wanna know?

1343
01:24:09,842 --> 01:24:13,554
We have information on several settlements
that Weinstein made in the '90s.

1344
01:24:13,637 --> 01:24:16,431
Paid to actresses and ex-employees.

1345
01:24:17,474 --> 01:24:19,393
Could you tell me anything about that?

1346
01:24:21,854 --> 01:24:24,189
Could you confirm those settlements,

1347
01:24:24,273 --> 01:24:26,316
and how it was from your perspective?

1348
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:27,484
My "perspective"?

1349
01:24:29,027 --> 01:24:31,530
Would it be company
money that was used?

1350
01:24:32,948 --> 01:24:36,034
You wrote that we're
from the same tiny world.

1351
01:24:36,118 --> 01:24:37,160
Yeah.

1352
01:24:37,244 --> 01:24:39,454
Summers at bungalows in the Catskills.

1353
01:24:39,538 --> 01:24:42,249
Meals at Lefty's and Pop-Ins.

1354
01:24:42,332 --> 01:24:44,418
What do you remember
about those holidays?

1355
01:24:45,085 --> 01:24:47,337
Gosh, I remember so many things.

1356
01:24:48,463 --> 01:24:51,425
It's the first time I remember seeing
my grandmother's arms bare.

1357
01:24:52,509 --> 01:24:56,013
I knew those tattoos
meant something seismic.

1358
01:24:56,930 --> 01:24:58,724
Yeah, how did you know?

1359
01:24:58,807 --> 01:25:00,267
I just sensed it.

1360
01:25:01,226 --> 01:25:03,061
Did your family discuss it?

1361
01:25:07,399 --> 01:25:08,817
Who else are you talking to?

1362
01:25:09,443 --> 01:25:11,236
I can't disclose that, Irwin.

1363
01:25:14,031 --> 01:25:17,034
You know, my parents...
they couldn't go there.

1364
01:25:17,117 --> 01:25:19,119
They rarely discussed it.

1365
01:25:20,913 --> 01:25:22,706
It's so mysterious, isn't it?

1366
01:25:23,790 --> 01:25:25,876
Why some families talk.

1367
01:25:25,959 --> 01:25:27,211
Some don't.

1368
01:25:29,463 --> 01:25:34,259
The money Weinstein was
spending was, you know, crazy.

1369
01:25:34,343 --> 01:25:38,096
I tried. I tried many times to get
the board to do something about it,

1370
01:25:38,180 --> 01:25:42,559
but they just kept ignoring his
behavior and keeping him on.

1371
01:25:42,643 --> 01:25:43,977
Why is that?

1372
01:25:45,812 --> 01:25:47,314
Have you talked to LOC?

1373
01:25:49,024 --> 01:25:50,817
Or ZP?

1374
01:25:50,901 --> 01:25:52,319
Who is "LOC"?

1375
01:25:53,195 --> 01:25:54,530
There was this memo.

1376
01:25:55,697 --> 01:25:58,492
Let me ask you something,
Jodi, that's really puzzling me.

1377
01:25:59,326 --> 01:26:01,203
Why are you asking about the '90s,

1378
01:26:01,286 --> 01:26:04,831
when Weinstein has committed
so many more recent offenses?

1379
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:08,043
I gotta go.

1380
01:26:08,919 --> 01:26:10,671
- I'll give you a call.
- Irwin.

1381
01:26:44,079 --> 01:26:45,080
Mom.

1382
01:26:46,164 --> 01:26:47,374
I had a nightmare.

1383
01:26:47,457 --> 01:26:48,917
Oh, honey. Come here.

1384
01:26:54,131 --> 01:26:56,592
Shh, shh, shh, shh.

1385
01:26:56,675 --> 01:26:58,177
It's okay. It's okay.

1386
01:26:58,260 --> 01:27:02,848
I heard that Ambra Battilana Gutierrez
just got a seven-figure settlement.

1387
01:27:02,931 --> 01:27:06,351
And that Weinstein now owns
the audio of the incident?

1388
01:27:08,228 --> 01:27:10,230
These settlements, Lanny,

1389
01:27:11,440 --> 01:27:12,441
what are we talking?

1390
01:27:14,484 --> 01:27:17,404
I can't tell you that, Megan.
You know that.

1391
01:27:17,487 --> 01:27:19,531
I'm not talking about
naming you, of course.

1392
01:27:19,615 --> 01:27:22,409
It would just be great for background.

1393
01:27:23,076 --> 01:27:26,205
To know a number of
the other settlements

1394
01:27:26,288 --> 01:27:27,664
that you're aware of.

1395
01:27:28,332 --> 01:27:30,375
- I'm not a bad guy here.
- I know that.

1396
01:27:30,459 --> 01:27:35,631
My profession is to get the facts
into the hands of reporters…

1397
01:27:35,714 --> 01:27:38,217
…but, you know, I can't help.

1398
01:27:41,178 --> 01:27:43,847
I keep getting 40 in my head.

1399
01:27:45,265 --> 01:27:47,100
Which would be ridiculous, right?

1400
01:27:50,312 --> 01:27:51,396
Right?

1401
01:27:55,317 --> 01:27:56,318
It's not 40.

1402
01:27:58,987 --> 01:28:02,866
Seriously, it's, uh, less than 40.

1403
01:28:02,950 --> 01:28:04,868
Well, good. That's a relief.

1404
01:28:04,952 --> 01:28:06,203
Sure.

1405
01:28:08,205 --> 01:28:09,206
So…

1406
01:28:11,041 --> 01:28:14,795
less than half of 40, then?

1407
01:28:15,587 --> 01:28:17,381
- Check.
- Oh, and what the fuck, Lanny?

1408
01:28:17,464 --> 01:28:19,967
We heard that Ronan Farrow
is working on a story.

1409
01:28:20,050 --> 01:28:22,719
No, no. That is done. Over.

1410
01:28:25,806 --> 01:28:28,016
I don't see you as a bad guy, Lanny.

1411
01:28:29,226 --> 01:28:31,395
I don't. I never have. I respect you.

1412
01:28:31,478 --> 01:28:33,021
I respect you.

1413
01:28:38,819 --> 01:28:40,779
This is all gonna come out, Lanny.

1414
01:28:41,780 --> 01:28:43,282
Publicly.

1415
01:28:43,365 --> 01:28:44,700
Generally does.

1416
01:28:45,951 --> 01:28:48,745
Okay.

1417
01:28:52,332 --> 01:28:53,792
What am I laughing about?

1418
01:28:56,336 --> 01:28:58,547
Oh, Megan.

1419
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:00,841
Lanny.

1420
01:29:10,100 --> 01:29:11,810
I'd say eight to 12 settlements.

1421
01:29:24,948 --> 01:29:26,617
And do you think that's normal?

1422
01:29:28,035 --> 01:29:30,454
For men to make so many payoffs?

1423
01:29:35,209 --> 01:29:37,211
I do. Yeah.

1424
01:29:42,049 --> 01:29:43,759
It feels like we're so close.

1425
01:29:44,384 --> 01:29:45,636
Do you think we'll get it?

1426
01:29:45,719 --> 01:29:46,720
What if we don't?

1427
01:29:48,222 --> 01:29:49,806
I'm having nightmares about him.

1428
01:29:49,890 --> 01:29:51,266
Oh, my God. I have them too.

1429
01:29:51,350 --> 01:29:52,684
Yeah?

1430
01:29:52,768 --> 01:29:57,189
I'm terrified we know all this, and we
might go to our graves knowing it.

1431
01:29:58,065 --> 01:29:59,483
The story will run.

1432
01:29:59,566 --> 01:30:02,402
My worry is people won't care.

1433
01:30:03,237 --> 01:30:05,989
And he won't even be slowed
down, let alone stopped.

1434
01:30:06,490 --> 01:30:08,867
It's like an ocean of wrongdoing.

1435
01:30:08,951 --> 01:30:11,578
I mean, can you imagine how
many Harveys there are out there?

1436
01:30:11,662 --> 01:30:12,704
Every day?

1437
01:30:14,081 --> 01:30:15,624
I sometimes wonder…

1438
01:30:18,794 --> 01:30:20,629
when I had Mira,

1439
01:30:21,380 --> 01:30:22,381
if...

1440
01:30:23,632 --> 01:30:24,842
if all the trauma,

1441
01:30:24,925 --> 01:30:29,221
not just in me, but in all
of the women I talked to,

1442
01:30:29,304 --> 01:30:30,305
if it just...

1443
01:30:31,098 --> 01:30:35,686
This darkness, this constant
violence, if it just sort of imploded?

1444
01:30:37,145 --> 01:30:41,400
Maybe that's part of the
depression that hits women.

1445
01:30:45,362 --> 01:30:47,698
Do you wish you hadn't
signed up for this story?

1446
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:51,368
Do you?

1447
01:30:53,537 --> 01:30:54,538
No.

1448
01:30:55,372 --> 01:30:56,623
No.

1449
01:31:04,131 --> 01:31:07,593
The last time we met,
you mentioned a memo?

1450
01:31:15,100 --> 01:31:18,270
It was from an ex-executive.

1451
01:31:18,353 --> 01:31:20,522
And it was extensive, scathing.

1452
01:31:20,606 --> 01:31:22,191
She sent it to the board.

1453
01:31:22,274 --> 01:31:24,651
When was this? How did they react?

1454
01:31:24,735 --> 01:31:27,946
It was a short burst of behind-doors
mayhem, and then she left.

1455
01:31:29,156 --> 01:31:31,074
What did her memo say?

1456
01:31:31,158 --> 01:31:33,243
That the company was
a toxic environment.

1457
01:31:35,746 --> 01:31:37,206
Would anyone have a copy?

1458
01:31:44,213 --> 01:31:45,214
Hey.

1459
01:31:47,174 --> 01:31:49,635
- Sorry it's so late.
- Mmm.

1460
01:31:53,555 --> 01:31:54,556
You okay?

1461
01:31:55,432 --> 01:31:58,310
Uh, Talia was up late.
Violet woke up twice.

1462
01:31:58,393 --> 01:32:02,231
I have an inbox filled with enraged
people about this insurance story

1463
01:32:02,314 --> 01:32:03,982
<i>which is going to be huge.</i>

1464
01:32:04,066 --> 01:32:07,569
<i>There's already
hundreds of emails here,</i>

1465
01:32:07,653 --> 01:32:11,448
and there is… …a hurricane
heading towards Florida.

1466
01:32:11,532 --> 01:32:13,575
So, I am going to
somehow fly down there

1467
01:32:13,659 --> 01:32:17,579
<i>and move my dad someplace else
before he is literally blown away.</i>

1468
01:32:17,663 --> 01:32:20,624
<i>And I have a slight
nervous twitch in my eye.</i>

1469
01:32:20,707 --> 01:32:21,792
Let me see.

1470
01:32:26,922 --> 01:32:28,382
Can you get the raisin?

1471
01:32:30,884 --> 01:32:34,054
Hey! Hey! Holly!

1472
01:32:35,097 --> 01:32:37,266
Slow down.

1473
01:32:37,349 --> 01:32:39,101
Here. Will you hold
Crabby for a second?

1474
01:32:39,184 --> 01:32:40,310
Least they're having fun.

1475
01:32:41,645 --> 01:32:43,438
Hi. This is Jodi Kantor.

1476
01:32:43,522 --> 01:32:46,149
<i>This is Rowena Chiu. I'm in New York.</i>

1477
01:32:46,942 --> 01:32:48,819
<i>Do you still want to meet up?</i>

1478
01:32:50,028 --> 01:32:51,280
I couldn't tell anyone.

1479
01:32:51,989 --> 01:32:54,491
Not my parents. Not even my husband.

1480
01:32:55,284 --> 01:32:56,285
Why not?

1481
01:32:58,370 --> 01:33:00,706
I grew up in an immigrant household.

1482
01:33:00,789 --> 01:33:03,333
I was taught to keep my head down,

1483
01:33:03,417 --> 01:33:06,587
work hard and not draw
attention to myself, you know?

1484
01:33:07,462 --> 01:33:11,967
In Chinese culture, I felt I had
to protect my family at all costs.

1485
01:33:12,634 --> 01:33:15,679
And I was young, scared.

1486
01:33:18,682 --> 01:33:21,351
Can you tell me anything about
what happened in Venice?

1487
01:33:24,313 --> 01:33:26,899
This is off the record, yeah?

1488
01:33:30,903 --> 01:33:32,404
I had the evening shifts,

1489
01:33:32,487 --> 01:33:34,823
going through notes on
screenplays with Harvey.

1490
01:33:35,699 --> 01:33:37,242
One night, we were working,

1491
01:33:37,326 --> 01:33:40,787
and he kept trying to touch me.

1492
01:33:41,538 --> 01:33:45,959
I didn't want to make him
angry. He's a very big man.

1493
01:33:47,127 --> 01:33:49,379
I kept trying to get back to the notes.

1494
01:33:49,463 --> 01:33:54,510
And that went on for a few
hours, just trying to avoid him.

1495
01:33:54,593 --> 01:33:56,220
How did you do that?

1496
01:33:57,846 --> 01:34:00,557
I would just fight him off.

1497
01:34:02,017 --> 01:34:06,271
I'd worn two pairs of tights to buy
me some time if I ever needed it.

1498
01:34:07,856 --> 01:34:09,775
But finally,

1499
01:34:10,692 --> 01:34:13,070
he held me down.

1500
01:34:14,112 --> 01:34:17,157
Not forcefully, but like it was a game.

1501
01:34:19,284 --> 01:34:21,995
Then he parted my legs.

1502
01:34:23,497 --> 01:34:24,748
And he said…

1503
01:34:26,792 --> 01:34:30,629
"Please, just one thrust,
and it'll all be over."

1504
01:34:34,967 --> 01:34:36,343
I got away.

1505
01:34:36,426 --> 01:34:38,178
I was traumatized.

1506
01:34:38,262 --> 01:34:41,181
I was a Christian. I was
still with my first boyfriend.

1507
01:34:42,641 --> 01:34:45,185
And you shared this with Zelda?

1508
01:34:45,269 --> 01:34:49,481
Zelda was completely enraged
and very brave in facing him.

1509
01:34:50,315 --> 01:34:51,650
We both resigned.

1510
01:34:54,027 --> 01:34:56,446
But I couldn't get a new
job after leaving Miramax.

1511
01:34:57,155 --> 01:35:00,200
Everyone kept saying if I worked
for Harvey, why would I leave?

1512
01:35:01,827 --> 01:35:04,538
The NDA that we signed,

1513
01:35:04,621 --> 01:35:08,500
it stipulated that if I ever had
trouble getting a job in film again,

1514
01:35:09,334 --> 01:35:12,838
I was to go back to Harvey or
his lawyer, Hutensky, for help.

1515
01:35:14,089 --> 01:35:17,259
I asked them for a reference,

1516
01:35:17,342 --> 01:35:21,763
and Hutensky, he kept repeating…

1517
01:35:24,099 --> 01:35:25,726
What? What was he saying?

1518
01:35:28,729 --> 01:35:30,981
How much Harvey valued me.

1519
01:35:35,652 --> 01:35:38,655
We agreed I would return to Miramax

1520
01:35:39,281 --> 01:35:41,033
under strict conditions.

1521
01:35:43,452 --> 01:35:46,288
So, I signed for Hong Kong.

1522
01:35:47,664 --> 01:35:50,334
I thought he would be far enough away.

1523
01:35:51,168 --> 01:35:52,544
I thought I'd be okay.

1524
01:35:55,631 --> 01:35:57,216
<i>But it was horrible.</i>

1525
01:35:58,592 --> 01:35:59,676
<i>I was a mess.</i>

1526
01:36:00,385 --> 01:36:03,055
<i>I felt incredibly alone.</i>

1527
01:36:04,348 --> 01:36:06,517
<i>I couldn't tell anyone about it,</i>

1528
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:10,020
<i>and the isolation just ate into me.</i>

1529
01:36:18,654 --> 01:36:20,614
<i>One day I disappeared from work.</i>

1530
01:36:23,033 --> 01:36:24,785
<i>I wanted to be dead.</i>

1531
01:36:26,537 --> 01:36:28,080
<i>I didn't know how to be,</i>

1532
01:36:28,789 --> 01:36:31,625
<i>how to keep going, living with it.</i>

1533
01:36:33,961 --> 01:36:35,671
<i>I tried to kill myself,</i>

1534
01:36:36,463 --> 01:36:39,174
<i>but I didn't know how.</i>

1535
01:36:41,176 --> 01:36:43,136
<i>I felt I failed at even that.</i>

1536
01:36:48,016 --> 01:36:49,351
I wanna give you this.

1537
01:36:51,144 --> 01:36:55,190
It's a description from an actress
you would know and recognize.

1538
01:37:10,622 --> 01:37:11,623
What?

1539
01:37:11,707 --> 01:37:15,502
This person won't go on the record.
I can't put her in the story.

1540
01:37:24,428 --> 01:37:25,804
I... I didn't...

1541
01:37:26,555 --> 01:37:29,391
I didn't know anything like this.

1542
01:37:33,228 --> 01:37:35,939
I thought it was just
extramarital bullshit.

1543
01:37:36,690 --> 01:37:37,774
It's not.

1544
01:38:04,718 --> 01:38:06,178
Do with it what you want.

1545
01:39:04,820 --> 01:39:05,821
Shit.

1546
01:39:06,405 --> 01:39:07,406
This is it.

1547
01:39:08,574 --> 01:39:09,700
This is it.

1548
01:39:17,541 --> 01:39:21,170
<i>For your records. November 3rd, 2015.</i>

1549
01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:26,425
<i>I have experienced repeated harassment
and abuse from the head of this company.</i>

1550
01:39:27,259 --> 01:39:31,180
<i>I am a 28-year-old woman trying
to make a living and a career.</i>

1551
01:39:31,847 --> 01:39:33,599
<i>I am a professional.</i>

1552
01:39:33,682 --> 01:39:36,310
<i>I am sexualized and diminished.</i>

1553
01:39:36,393 --> 01:39:38,687
<i>I have been fearful about speaking up,</i>

1554
01:39:38,770 --> 01:39:42,357
<i>but remaining silent is
causing me great distress.</i>

1555
01:39:42,441 --> 01:39:44,276
<i>He told me, "I'm a bad boy,</i>

1556
01:39:44,359 --> 01:39:47,029
<i>but what's important is
that I'm honest about it."</i>

1557
01:39:47,112 --> 01:39:50,782
<i>He said the only thing I was
good for was making babies.</i>

1558
01:39:50,866 --> 01:39:55,537
<i>An assistant told me Harvey made her
give him a massage while he was naked.</i>

1559
01:39:55,621 --> 01:39:58,916
<i>It was horrible to see her so upset.</i>

1560
01:39:58,999 --> 01:40:02,586
<i>When I complained to their
human resources executive,</i>

1561
01:40:02,669 --> 01:40:08,300
<i>the response was, "Let us know if he
hits you or crosses a line physically."</i>

1562
01:40:08,383 --> 01:40:12,971
<i>Harvey Weinstein is a
64-year-old world-famous man,</i>

1563
01:40:13,055 --> 01:40:15,349
<i>and this is his company.</i>

1564
01:40:15,432 --> 01:40:20,521
<i>The balance of power is me,
zero, Harvey Weinstein, ten.</i>

1565
01:40:30,739 --> 01:40:31,865
Go write.

1566
01:40:31,949 --> 01:40:33,075
You've got the story.

1567
01:40:33,158 --> 01:40:34,785
Once we publish, everything
else will come out.

1568
01:40:34,868 --> 01:40:37,037
- And talk to Lauren O'Connor.
- Yeah.

1569
01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:39,540
Get ahold of the Weinstein
Company board for their response.

1570
01:40:39,623 --> 01:40:41,583
Let me call Lance Maerov.

1571
01:40:41,667 --> 01:40:43,085
Write it. Let's get ready.

1572
01:40:46,755 --> 01:40:49,007
<i>My client does not want to be named.</i>

1573
01:40:49,091 --> 01:40:51,677
<i>That memo was never
for public distribution.</i>

1574
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:52,761
Lauren.

1575
01:40:53,470 --> 01:40:56,598
<i>My client is here, but
she's too upset to speak.</i>

1576
01:40:56,682 --> 01:40:59,434
Lauren, I'm sorry this
is difficult for you.

1577
01:40:59,518 --> 01:41:01,687
We're not gonna publish the whole memo.

1578
01:41:01,770 --> 01:41:04,898
And we will make it absolutely
clear you were not the source

1579
01:41:04,982 --> 01:41:06,608
and that you declined to comment.

1580
01:41:07,359 --> 01:41:10,571
But we do intend to use
your name for its credibility.

1581
01:41:11,196 --> 01:41:15,117
If you were a victim of sexual assault,
we would absolutely keep your anonymity.

1582
01:41:15,826 --> 01:41:17,661
But as a witness to what went on,

1583
01:41:17,744 --> 01:41:21,123
it would make this story
much stronger to name you.

1584
01:41:21,206 --> 01:41:24,084
Hi, Lance. This is Megan Twohey
from The New York Times.

1585
01:41:24,168 --> 01:41:27,379
We have a memo here from Lauren
O'Connor to The Weinstein Company.

1586
01:41:27,462 --> 01:41:28,881
What? Shit.

1587
01:41:28,964 --> 01:41:30,424
<i>We wanna know, what
did you do about it?</i>

1588
01:41:30,507 --> 01:41:32,259
What did the board do about it?

1589
01:41:37,723 --> 01:41:38,724
Lance?

1590
01:41:39,725 --> 01:41:43,187
We did try to change things with
the police complaint in 2015.

1591
01:41:43,270 --> 01:41:46,023
What about this memo? It was
there and then it was gone?

1592
01:41:46,106 --> 01:41:49,526
Look, we were all worried
about Harvey's behavior.

1593
01:41:49,610 --> 01:41:51,445
Can I quote you, Lance?

1594
01:41:54,489 --> 01:41:55,490
Yes.

1595
01:41:56,116 --> 01:41:57,743
Yes, you can.

1596
01:41:58,452 --> 01:42:00,120
So, Lauren's complaint?

1597
01:42:03,373 --> 01:42:06,752
It was withdrawn
days after it was sent.

1598
01:42:06,835 --> 01:42:08,045
So, yeah, I let it go.

1599
01:42:08,128 --> 01:42:10,088
Well, why do you
think it was withdrawn?

1600
01:42:10,881 --> 01:42:12,341
I really don't know why.

1601
01:42:13,592 --> 01:42:16,553
Look, are you sure that
this isn't just young women

1602
01:42:16,637 --> 01:42:19,431
who wanna sleep with a movie
producer to try to get ahead?

1603
01:42:20,682 --> 01:42:22,851
We have decades of allegations,

1604
01:42:23,435 --> 01:42:26,772
accusations of
harassment, assault, rape,

1605
01:42:26,855 --> 01:42:28,607
and multiple settlements.

1606
01:42:31,485 --> 01:42:33,320
I know you're gonna need
to speak to the board,

1607
01:42:33,403 --> 01:42:35,197
but could you wait until
after the weekend?

1608
01:42:36,823 --> 01:42:37,908
Is that possible?

1609
01:42:40,827 --> 01:42:41,828
Okay.

1610
01:42:51,129 --> 01:42:52,130
Ashley,

1611
01:42:52,798 --> 01:42:55,592
I know that ideally a lot of women
would be jumping together,

1612
01:42:55,676 --> 01:42:57,135
but that's not what's happening.

1613
01:42:58,554 --> 01:43:02,516
But we do have a series of
incidents and a predatory pattern.

1614
01:43:03,141 --> 01:43:05,018
You would be coming forward alone,

1615
01:43:05,102 --> 01:43:07,938
but you would be standing
on a mountain of evidence.

1616
01:43:11,650 --> 01:43:12,693
Ashley?

1617
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:16,530
<i>Yes. I'll think about
it very seriously, Jodi.</i>

1618
01:43:17,197 --> 01:43:18,532
<i>I promise.</i>

1619
01:43:18,615 --> 01:43:19,867
Thank you, Ashley.

1620
01:43:24,204 --> 01:43:25,747
We go with what we have.

1621
01:43:25,831 --> 01:43:28,375
I know we need to be
mindful of The New Yorker,

1622
01:43:28,458 --> 01:43:31,962
but couldn't we wait just a little
longer, just for these women to commit?

1623
01:43:32,045 --> 01:43:33,714
No. We need to publish.

1624
01:43:33,797 --> 01:43:35,632
It's nothing like the whole story.

1625
01:43:35,716 --> 01:43:38,844
This can be the first arrow. More
women will come forward afterwards.

1626
01:43:39,595 --> 01:43:41,763
It could be so much stronger, Dean.

1627
01:43:42,347 --> 01:43:43,348
It's solid.

1628
01:43:44,141 --> 01:43:45,267
We need to go.

1629
01:43:45,851 --> 01:43:49,354
How much time will we
give Weinstein to respond?

1630
01:43:49,438 --> 01:43:50,480
Twenty-four hours?

1631
01:43:50,564 --> 01:43:51,607
I'd double it.

1632
01:43:52,191 --> 01:43:54,026
Forty-eight hours. That's fair.

1633
01:43:54,109 --> 01:43:55,110
Two days?

1634
01:43:55,194 --> 01:43:57,404
How many people could
Harvey and his team talk to

1635
01:43:57,487 --> 01:43:58,655
in that amount of time?

1636
01:44:00,324 --> 01:44:01,325
David?

1637
01:44:02,242 --> 01:44:03,702
I'd go with Rebecca.

1638
01:44:03,785 --> 01:44:06,163
We want to be irreproachable
from the legal side.

1639
01:44:06,246 --> 01:44:07,831
Good. Let's call Lanny.

1640
01:44:07,915 --> 01:44:10,626
We'll ask to speak to Harvey and
his team at one o'clock tomorrow.

1641
01:44:10,709 --> 01:44:11,877
We'll tell them what we have

1642
01:44:12,461 --> 01:44:16,340
and give him, uh, two
days to respond or refute.

1643
01:44:26,892 --> 01:44:29,186
It's midnight. Go home.

1644
01:44:29,269 --> 01:44:30,646
- We will.
- Good night.

1645
01:44:49,873 --> 01:44:52,626
If just one of the women would
have gone on the record…

1646
01:44:53,126 --> 01:44:54,753
Why is he taking the tunnel?

1647
01:44:56,255 --> 01:44:58,715
We just needed one woman.

1648
01:44:58,799 --> 01:45:00,509
Jodi. Stop it.

1649
01:45:01,176 --> 01:45:02,177
Let it go.

1650
01:45:09,059 --> 01:45:11,979
Maybe if we had been able to
get them all into a room together.

1651
01:45:13,689 --> 01:45:15,524
A room would make no difference.

1652
01:45:16,859 --> 01:45:19,319
They don't wanna go on
the record by themselves.

1653
01:45:21,530 --> 01:45:23,073
Would you want to?

1654
01:45:41,925 --> 01:45:42,926
Hi.

1655
01:45:45,804 --> 01:45:46,889
Yeah.

1656
01:45:47,681 --> 01:45:48,682
Hi.

1657
01:45:49,183 --> 01:45:50,184
Hi.

1658
01:45:50,267 --> 01:45:52,936
Shh, shh, shh, shh…

1659
01:45:53,020 --> 01:45:55,689
Shh, shh, shh, shh…

1660
01:46:02,529 --> 01:46:04,448
It's been two fucking hours.

1661
01:46:05,949 --> 01:46:06,950
It's a tactic,

1662
01:46:07,576 --> 01:46:10,037
but I have things to do.

1663
01:46:22,341 --> 01:46:23,342
Hello?

1664
01:46:23,425 --> 01:46:27,638
<i>Dean? I have Harvey Weinstein and
his lawyer, Charles Harder, for you.</i>

1665
01:46:28,430 --> 01:46:29,723
Okay, let's go, team.

1666
01:46:31,099 --> 01:46:32,893
- You ready?
- We're ready.

1667
01:46:34,478 --> 01:46:35,521
Put them through.

1668
01:46:39,733 --> 01:46:41,151
Harvey?

1669
01:46:41,235 --> 01:46:42,528
Charles?

1670
01:46:42,611 --> 01:46:43,612
<i>Dean.</i>

1671
01:46:44,488 --> 01:46:46,114
How do you wanna do this, Harvey?

1672
01:46:46,782 --> 01:46:48,659
<i>I don't wanna do this, is what I want.</i>

1673
01:46:48,742 --> 01:46:51,161
<i>Are they there? The reporters?</i>

1674
01:46:51,245 --> 01:46:52,538
We're all here.

1675
01:46:53,121 --> 01:46:54,498
<i>Who have you talked to?</i>

1676
01:46:55,832 --> 01:46:58,544
We've sent you who
we're covering, Harvey.

1677
01:46:58,627 --> 01:47:00,295
<i>Who have you talked to?</i>

1678
01:47:04,758 --> 01:47:05,843
Harvey, we need some...

1679
01:47:05,926 --> 01:47:07,469
<i>Are you talking to Gwyneth Paltrow?</i>

1680
01:47:07,553 --> 01:47:10,222
<i>Gwyneth's not in the story, Harvey.</i>

1681
01:47:10,305 --> 01:47:14,142
<i>Why don't you tell me who's on the
record and let me respond to that?</i>

1682
01:47:14,226 --> 01:47:15,227
Yeah.

1683
01:47:16,854 --> 01:47:20,691
Harvey, how many settlements
have you paid out over the years?

1684
01:47:21,567 --> 01:47:23,610
We were told eight to 12.

1685
01:47:23,694 --> 01:47:26,321
<i>That's you talking.
That's not me talking.</i>

1686
01:47:26,405 --> 01:47:30,325
<i>If Lanny spoke, he spoke for himself
and not on behalf of his client.</i>

1687
01:47:34,788 --> 01:47:37,332
<i>How much time are you
giving us to respond?</i>

1688
01:47:37,416 --> 01:47:38,834
<i>We need two weeks.</i>

1689
01:47:40,460 --> 01:47:42,004
You'll have two days.

1690
01:47:42,087 --> 01:47:43,755
<i>This goes back to the '90s.</i>

1691
01:47:43,839 --> 01:47:46,175
<i>If you mess up and
don't tell the truth,</i>

1692
01:47:46,258 --> 01:47:48,135
<i>how do you look yourself in the eye?</i>

1693
01:47:48,218 --> 01:47:50,762
It's been 90 minutes, Harvey,
and we're gonna wrap it up now.

1694
01:48:20,334 --> 01:48:22,836
Harvey's just disputed
Lanny's eight to 12.

1695
01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:24,171
We have to have corroboration.

1696
01:48:24,254 --> 01:48:26,423
Eight to 12 settlements
has to be backed up.

1697
01:48:27,382 --> 01:48:29,176
Who can you call at the company?

1698
01:48:29,259 --> 01:48:30,886
I'll ask David Glasser.

1699
01:48:30,969 --> 01:48:32,179
It's Ashley.

1700
01:48:34,556 --> 01:48:36,266
Pick up. Answer it.

1701
01:48:36,350 --> 01:48:37,392
I am. I am.

1702
01:48:40,229 --> 01:48:41,271
Ashley.

1703
01:48:42,648 --> 01:48:44,024
How are you?

1704
01:48:44,107 --> 01:48:46,527
<i>I'm good. Yeah. I'm good.
I just went for a run.</i>

1705
01:48:47,319 --> 01:48:49,947
That's great. That's
great. Running is good.

1706
01:48:51,448 --> 01:48:52,658
<i>I talked to my lawyer,</i>

1707
01:48:52,741 --> 01:48:55,619
<i>and I've been thinking about
what the right thing to do is.</i>

1708
01:48:55,702 --> 01:48:57,204
Yeah. Of course.

1709
01:48:57,788 --> 01:48:58,789
Of course.

1710
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:03,001
And?

1711
01:49:05,963 --> 01:49:08,757
I'm prepared to be a named
source in your investigation.

1712
01:49:10,217 --> 01:49:11,468
<i>I have to…</i>

1713
01:49:12,553 --> 01:49:14,054
as a woman and a Christian.

1714
01:49:22,187 --> 01:49:23,188
<i>Jodi?</i>

1715
01:49:24,231 --> 01:49:25,232
Yes.

1716
01:49:26,024 --> 01:49:27,150
<i>We'll speak soon.</i>

1717
01:49:29,194 --> 01:49:30,320
Yes.

1718
01:49:30,404 --> 01:49:31,822
Ashley, thank you.

1719
01:49:32,406 --> 01:49:33,490
Thank you.

1720
01:49:35,826 --> 01:49:37,703
Ashley said yes.

1721
01:49:38,287 --> 01:49:39,580
She said yes.

1722
01:49:42,124 --> 01:49:43,125
Ashley said yes.

1723
01:49:43,208 --> 01:49:45,919
She did, Jodi. She did.

1724
01:49:46,003 --> 01:49:49,381
Okay. Here we go with
the whole damn story.

1725
01:49:49,464 --> 01:49:52,176
The lede is Ashley Judd's
account of the Peninsula suite.

1726
01:49:52,259 --> 01:49:54,261
Get a good Judd quote
to end the section.

1727
01:49:54,344 --> 01:49:55,345
I'm on it.

1728
01:49:55,429 --> 01:49:57,639
We publish as soon as the
piece is in good shape.

1729
01:49:57,723 --> 01:49:59,141
Let's go.

1730
01:50:37,095 --> 01:50:38,472
<i>- Hello?</i>
- Hi, David.

1731
01:50:38,555 --> 01:50:41,141
This is Megan Twohey
from The New York Times.

1732
01:50:41,225 --> 01:50:44,228
I thought it was fair to give you, as
company president, a chance to comment.

1733
01:50:44,311 --> 01:50:45,687
Are you up to speed with everything?

1734
01:50:47,272 --> 01:50:48,440
I am.

1735
01:50:48,524 --> 01:50:51,026
The board had an emergency
conference call.

1736
01:50:51,735 --> 01:50:54,821
David, the eight to 12 settlements,
we have conflicting reports.

1737
01:50:54,905 --> 01:50:55,948
We don't need to name you,

1738
01:50:56,031 --> 01:50:58,825
but would you confirm for me
that eight to 12 is accurate?

1739
01:50:58,909 --> 01:51:00,035
How many?

1740
01:51:00,619 --> 01:51:03,372
Eight to 12. Are we
safe using that figure?

1741
01:51:06,166 --> 01:51:07,543
Eight to 12.

1742
01:51:10,796 --> 01:51:12,840
Uh, yeah. Yes. That's accurate.

1743
01:51:13,423 --> 01:51:15,300
I appreciate it, David. Thank you.

1744
01:51:38,282 --> 01:51:40,993
David Glasser says yes
to eight to 12 settlements.

1745
01:51:45,247 --> 01:51:46,331
<i>It's not enough time.</i>

1746
01:51:46,415 --> 01:51:47,791
<i>- It's not just me here.</i>
- Right. Yeah.

1747
01:51:47,875 --> 01:51:49,459
<i>- You must know that, right?</i>
- Yep.

1748
01:51:49,543 --> 01:51:51,003
I understand it's difficult.

1749
01:51:51,962 --> 01:51:53,589
What's happening? Is
Harvey on the phone?

1750
01:51:53,672 --> 01:51:56,341
It's Lanny. Weinstein is
refusing to give a response.

1751
01:51:56,425 --> 01:51:57,759
- Okay.
<i>- Right?</i>

1752
01:51:57,843 --> 01:52:00,095
Yeah. No, Lanny, I hear you.

1753
01:52:00,179 --> 01:52:02,931
<i>Listen, I can't pull a
rabbit out of a hat here.</i>

1754
01:52:03,015 --> 01:52:04,516
<i>We need more time.</i>

1755
01:52:04,600 --> 01:52:05,601
<i>Here's the thing, Megan...</i>

1756
01:52:05,684 --> 01:52:06,852
Lanny, I'm sick of this shit.

1757
01:52:06,935 --> 01:52:08,979
You've got five different
lawyers reaching out to us.

1758
01:52:09,062 --> 01:52:11,064
We're not talking to
five different lawyers.

1759
01:52:11,148 --> 01:52:14,610
Get your people in line and get
back to us with your response.

1760
01:52:21,825 --> 01:52:23,702
This is not a response.
This is a novel.

1761
01:52:23,785 --> 01:52:26,663
They call the women liars
and the journalism false.

1762
01:52:26,747 --> 01:52:28,707
It's legalistic bullying.

1763
01:52:28,790 --> 01:52:31,376
I sent back three paragraphs
to counter their 18 pages.

1764
01:52:31,460 --> 01:52:32,836
I've asked for their data.

1765
01:52:32,920 --> 01:52:35,547
- And I invite them to court.
- Let's see how long

1766
01:52:35,631 --> 01:52:37,674
before they get back to us.

1767
01:52:39,510 --> 01:52:40,677
Waiting time's up.

1768
01:52:40,761 --> 01:52:42,804
Weinstein wants to meet.
He's on his way here.

1769
01:52:43,388 --> 01:52:44,389
Do we let him in?

1770
01:52:47,684 --> 01:52:48,685
Let him in.

1771
01:52:49,478 --> 01:52:50,479
I've got this.

1772
01:53:01,198 --> 01:53:02,449
- Hi, Lisa.
- Hi.

1773
01:53:02,533 --> 01:53:03,992
- Is this everyone?
- Yep.

1774
01:53:04,076 --> 01:53:05,369
Okay, follow me.

1775
01:53:09,790 --> 01:53:12,084
- That's what you're gonna do.
- Only five. Come on. We've got folders.

1776
01:53:12,167 --> 01:53:13,752
We have the folders.
We've got evidence.

1777
01:53:13,836 --> 01:53:15,587
You're a good writer, Megan.

1778
01:53:15,671 --> 01:53:18,674
Are you really willing to stake
your reputation on this story?

1779
01:53:18,757 --> 01:53:22,052
- She's smiling. Everybody looks happy.
- Would you smile if this happened to you?

1780
01:53:22,135 --> 01:53:24,721
None of these women
are credible witnesses.

1781
01:53:24,805 --> 01:53:26,056
How's this one?

1782
01:53:26,139 --> 01:53:27,724
She's a nut.

1783
01:53:27,808 --> 01:53:29,434
She's a shakedown artist.

1784
01:53:59,840 --> 01:54:01,383
Is it there? Is it online?

1785
01:54:01,466 --> 01:54:03,468
Yes. They have it too.

1786
01:54:03,552 --> 01:54:04,595
So it's in both.

1787
01:54:06,847 --> 01:54:07,848
What happened?

1788
01:54:08,974 --> 01:54:10,601
What you'd expect.

1789
01:54:10,684 --> 01:54:12,603
Trying to discredit the actresses.

1790
01:54:12,686 --> 01:54:13,687
What's wrong?

1791
01:54:14,688 --> 01:54:17,941
Harvey and his team have spoken
to Variety and Hollywood Reporter.

1792
01:54:18,567 --> 01:54:20,652
- What?
- About us and the story.

1793
01:54:20,736 --> 01:54:23,614
He claims to be surprised by it.

1794
01:54:24,364 --> 01:54:25,741
This is bad.

1795
01:54:27,034 --> 01:54:30,120
You have to write fast.
We've just lost any privacy.

1796
01:54:31,747 --> 01:54:33,373
Let me see the lede.

1797
01:54:41,256 --> 01:54:43,842
All I think is we have
to lead with this.

1798
01:54:43,926 --> 01:54:45,719
That has to be at the
top of the paragraph.

1799
01:54:45,802 --> 01:54:48,138
- I think it's fine as two, don't you?
- I think it's right.

1800
01:54:50,265 --> 01:54:52,893
Go home. I'll check this.

1801
01:54:55,103 --> 01:54:56,104
Really?

1802
01:55:33,141 --> 01:55:35,269
<i>Why shouldn't I just do a
fucking interview right now</i>

1803
01:55:35,352 --> 01:55:38,522
<i>with The Washington Post based
on your lack of transparency?</i>

1804
01:55:38,605 --> 01:55:41,483
You want some sort of list of who
we're talking to for this story,

1805
01:55:41,567 --> 01:55:44,653
and if we don't disclose it to
you, you're threatening us?

1806
01:55:44,736 --> 01:55:46,989
<i>If you're using Gwyneth
Paltrow, tell me.</i>

1807
01:55:47,072 --> 01:55:49,032
We're not using Gwyneth Paltrow.

1808
01:55:49,116 --> 01:55:51,201
<i>Are you talking to Gwyneth Paltrow?</i>

1809
01:55:52,911 --> 01:55:54,913
Hey, Harvey. This is
Dean. Here's the deal.

1810
01:55:54,997 --> 01:55:58,000
You need to give us your statement
now. I'm about to push the button.

1811
01:55:58,083 --> 01:56:00,502
<i>Dean, let me tell you
something about intimidation.</i>

1812
01:56:00,586 --> 01:56:02,045
<i>I'll talk to The Post. I will.</i>

1813
01:56:02,129 --> 01:56:03,672
Call them. That's fine.

1814
01:56:03,755 --> 01:56:05,382
You can call The Post.

1815
01:56:05,465 --> 01:56:07,301
Harvey, I'm trying to be fair with you.

1816
01:56:07,384 --> 01:56:08,844
<i>You are intimidating me, Dean.</i>

1817
01:56:08,927 --> 01:56:11,680
No, I'm trying to get your
statement. Please, give it to us now.

1818
01:56:11,763 --> 01:56:13,765
We're about to publish.

1819
01:56:13,849 --> 01:56:16,101
<i>- I want to give it to you.</i>
- Thank you.

1820
01:56:16,185 --> 01:56:17,519
<i>Is Gwyneth in it?</i>

1821
01:56:17,603 --> 01:56:19,104
She's not in the story.

1822
01:56:19,188 --> 01:56:21,440
So here's what we need to do, Harvey.

1823
01:56:22,274 --> 01:56:24,860
We wanna give you every
word that you wanna say.

1824
01:56:25,652 --> 01:56:26,778
So say it.

1825
01:56:27,446 --> 01:56:30,199
I also have a newspaper to
put out. I'm gonna walk out.

1826
01:56:30,282 --> 01:56:32,284
Talk to my reporters. Take care.

1827
01:56:33,368 --> 01:56:34,411
Good luck.

1828
01:56:34,494 --> 01:56:37,372
<i>You have a reckless
disregard for the truth.</i>

1829
01:56:37,456 --> 01:56:41,084
<i>You want a hit story, and
these allegations are false.</i>

1830
01:56:41,168 --> 01:56:43,462
We don't want a hit story, Lisa.

1831
01:56:43,545 --> 01:56:46,757
<i>Harvey's going to take some
time off to focus on this issue.</i>

1832
01:56:48,383 --> 01:56:49,551
<i>Are you, Harvey?</i>

1833
01:56:50,344 --> 01:56:52,679
<i>Yes, I'm gonna take time off.</i>

1834
01:56:53,388 --> 01:56:54,890
From the company?

1835
01:56:55,557 --> 01:56:58,560
<i>Yes. I wanna spend some time learning.</i>

1836
01:56:58,644 --> 01:57:01,647
<i>- Learning and listening to me.</i>
- He's going to take a leave of absence.

1837
01:57:02,523 --> 01:57:04,107
Double space here.

1838
01:57:04,983 --> 01:57:06,985
And here.

1839
01:57:07,569 --> 01:57:08,654
It's Laura.

1840
01:57:11,406 --> 01:57:13,450
Hi. Laura, how are you?

1841
01:57:14,201 --> 01:57:17,287
<i>Yes, I'm okay.</i>

1842
01:57:17,371 --> 01:57:18,455
<i>Today's my surgery.</i>

1843
01:57:19,081 --> 01:57:20,707
<i>I'm about to go in.</i>

1844
01:57:20,791 --> 01:57:25,045
Um, look, I never signed any contract.

1845
01:57:25,838 --> 01:57:27,381
I'm not gagged,

1846
01:57:28,090 --> 01:57:31,552
and I want to speak out on
behalf of the women who can't.

1847
01:57:33,512 --> 01:57:34,721
I have three daughters,

1848
01:57:34,805 --> 01:57:38,600
and I don't want them to ever
accept abuse or bullying as normal.

1849
01:57:40,060 --> 01:57:42,563
<i>You can use anything I've said.</i>

1850
01:57:43,230 --> 01:57:44,439
I'll do it.

1851
01:57:45,607 --> 01:57:47,568
I'll go on the record.

1852
01:57:49,862 --> 01:57:50,988
Thank you, Laura.

1853
01:57:52,364 --> 01:57:53,365
Thank you.

1854
01:57:55,075 --> 01:57:56,702
I'll be thinking of you.

1855
01:58:07,129 --> 01:58:08,922
Oh, Laura.

1856
01:58:09,006 --> 01:58:11,049
Oh, beautiful, beautiful Laura.

1857
01:58:24,438 --> 01:58:25,898
Are you okay, Laura?

1858
01:58:25,981 --> 01:58:28,483
Yes. I'm fine.

1859
01:58:28,567 --> 01:58:29,568
Thank you.

1860
01:58:31,320 --> 01:58:32,696
I really am.

1861
01:59:49,606 --> 01:59:51,859
Their statements are
in. I'm pulling quotes.

1862
01:59:53,569 --> 01:59:54,570
Yep.

1863
01:59:59,283 --> 02:00:01,493
So, do you... Okay. You're so good.

1864
02:00:20,846 --> 02:00:23,098
- Have you pulled the quotes?
- I'm doing it now.

1865
02:00:39,323 --> 02:00:40,741
It's ready to go.

1866
02:00:40,824 --> 02:00:43,952
Let's read it together one last time.

1867
02:01:18,487 --> 02:01:19,488
Yeah.

1868
02:01:20,030 --> 02:01:21,073
One second.

1869
02:01:25,160 --> 02:01:26,286
Yeah.

1870
02:01:27,412 --> 02:01:28,413
Okay?

1871
02:01:30,415 --> 02:01:31,416
Okay?

1872
02:01:34,169 --> 02:01:35,170
- Yeah.
- Okay.