1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:12,074 Advertise your product or brand here contact us www.SubtitleDB.org today 2 00:01:13,890 --> 00:01:19,813 After 5 or 6 years in the entertainment industry I imposed some rules on myself 3 00:01:19,896 --> 00:01:23,025 And one of them is: When I am signing a contract with a new artist 4 00:01:23,108 --> 00:01:27,195 - I have to sit down, take off my glasses, 5 00:01:27,279 --> 00:01:30,907 - Look him in the eyes and say: 6 00:01:30,991 --> 00:01:37,372 "You have to listen to me seriously. This is not a joke: " 7 00:01:37,456 --> 00:01:41,668 "If I do my job perfectly, I'm probably going to kill you." 8 00:01:52,554 --> 00:01:57,017 Shep Gordon He has been my manager for 43 years. 9 00:01:57,100 --> 00:02:02,606 If I hadn't met Shep, It would have been over after two or three years. 10 00:02:02,689 --> 00:02:07,527 I trusted Shep, absolutely. He has the King Midas touch. 11 00:02:07,736 --> 00:02:13,283 Shep is the best manager par excellence. He has been a precursor. And everyone has followed him. 12 00:02:13,367 --> 00:02:19,289 Shep Gordon is like Brian Epstein, Marshall McLuhan and Mr. Magoo would have had a son. 13 00:02:19,373 --> 00:02:24,628 I brag about him all the time. Not only because of his successes, which are many- 14 00:02:24,711 --> 00:02:28,548 -But he is also the most upright man I have ever met. 15 00:02:28,632 --> 00:02:32,386 I could talk to you about him forever. 16 00:02:32,469 --> 00:02:39,393 Shep can be compassionate. He can also be a son of a bitch. 17 00:02:41,978 --> 00:02:44,981 He has the charisma of Elvis 18 00:02:45,065 --> 00:02:49,152 - Steve Reeves's physique, the genius of Mark Twain- 19 00:02:49,236 --> 00:02:52,906 - And he's probably as well endowed as Long Dong Silver. 20 00:02:52,989 --> 00:03:00,372 From the beginning, Shep was like a professional bachelor. With women at his door while others left from behind. 21 00:03:00,455 --> 00:03:04,793 I met Shep in the 80s, in Hollywood. I don't know if you remember Carlos and Charlies... 22 00:03:04,876 --> 00:03:09,172 Hypothetically, not me, let's say you were pulling cocaine in the bathroom 23 00:03:09,256 --> 00:03:13,760 - And then they kicked you out of there, in the middle of a fight 24 00:03:13,844 --> 00:03:19,057 Shep was who you had to turn to for to be able to enter again. Purely hypothetical. 25 00:03:19,391 --> 00:03:22,936 Shep and I have smoked marijuana for years. 26 00:03:23,020 --> 00:03:26,314 We are the canaries in the mine... 27 00:03:26,398 --> 00:03:29,484 Like a young man making my way in the industry 28 00:03:29,568 --> 00:03:33,947 - They told me about the show that Shep had developed with Teddy Pendergrass-- 29 00:03:34,031 --> 00:03:38,201 -And how they had managed to open the way for the Black artists breaking the "Chitlin' circuit" 30 00:03:38,285 --> 00:03:43,790 If someone asked me, who invented celebrity chefs 31 00:03:43,874 --> 00:03:48,003 - Without a doubt, Shep Gordon. 32 00:03:48,086 --> 00:03:51,590 A "jubu" is a Jew who is also a Buddhist. 33 00:03:51,673 --> 00:03:55,677 And the Dalai Lama plays an important role in your life. 34 00:03:55,761 --> 00:04:00,349 When Shep gets angry, what he does is to go and cook for the Dalai Lama. 35 00:04:00,432 --> 00:04:03,477 I am spiritual, I am an Aries with an ascending penis. 36 00:04:03,852 --> 00:04:07,814 I have met more famous people via Shep Gordon 37 00:04:07,898 --> 00:04:10,484 - Let all my friends together. 38 00:04:10,567 --> 00:04:16,990 Before working with Shep, I did it for Ronnie Wood of the Rolling Stones. 39 00:04:17,074 --> 00:04:21,453 The first thing he said was: "Can you get access to Shep Gordon?" 40 00:04:21,912 --> 00:04:26,083 Everyone knows Shep. 41 00:04:26,166 --> 00:04:31,838 If walls could talk, Sheps' house on Maui he would never be silent. 42 00:04:32,214 --> 00:04:35,258 He does things correctly, most of the time. 43 00:04:35,342 --> 00:04:38,387 Sometimes libido controls it. 44 00:04:38,470 --> 00:04:43,934 he doesn't think necessarily with the head... 45 00:04:44,017 --> 00:04:47,521 ...but with a different part. 46 00:05:13,755 --> 00:05:16,675 Good game, Mulligan. 47 00:05:16,758 --> 00:05:21,847 We have had - by far - the most legendary relationship. 48 00:05:21,930 --> 00:05:24,808 We have never had a contract. 49 00:05:24,891 --> 00:05:32,107 I don't think we've ever taken business so seriously. like our friendship. 50 00:05:33,442 --> 00:05:39,197 It's like a good marriage 51 00:05:39,281 --> 00:05:44,369 - They would do anything to protect themselves. They love each other. - Shep and I are family. 52 00:05:44,453 --> 00:05:50,876 If something had happened to my wife and me, He would have adopted our children. And I'm happy. 53 00:05:50,959 --> 00:05:56,173 Family is important. It's where you come from, your story. It's part of who you are. 54 00:05:56,256 --> 00:05:59,843 The women in his life They have been incredibly beautiful. 55 00:05:59,926 --> 00:06:04,973 - I have always wanted to have a child. - As you get older... 56 00:06:05,057 --> 00:06:08,852 ...I hope things even out. - I love the smell of a baby. 57 00:06:08,935 --> 00:06:14,858 - I'm not saying you have to take a dog. - It's the last chance to have my family. 58 00:06:14,941 --> 00:06:18,070 I would like to see him with a good lady 59 00:06:18,153 --> 00:06:22,699 - That he gives as much as he does to others 60 00:06:22,783 --> 00:06:26,870 I'll stay a couple of years yet, to stay calm. 61 00:06:26,953 --> 00:06:31,083 We must remember that this is a man I used to use a - 62 00:06:31,166 --> 00:06:36,505 - T-shirt that said: "Without blowjob, no backstage pass. " 63 00:06:36,588 --> 00:06:41,551 You have to start from that base. 64 00:06:42,928 --> 00:06:47,307 I graduated from the University at Buffalo. They were the best days of my life 65 00:06:47,391 --> 00:06:55,023 I was an idealist and social-liberal. I wanted to save the world. 66 00:06:55,107 --> 00:07:00,696 There were few jobs for sociologists, and he wanted to save some imprisoned teenagers. 67 00:07:00,779 --> 00:07:04,866 �Nothing can be done to help to these petty criminals? 68 00:07:04,950 --> 00:07:09,830 In 1968 I tried out for the Prison Service. Probation in California. 69 00:07:09,913 --> 00:07:17,170 I set out on my white steed to the Los Padrinos juvenile prison, one hour from L.A. 70 00:07:17,254 --> 00:07:22,926 I had pretty long hair back then, and the other guards hated hippies. 71 00:07:23,009 --> 00:07:26,972 They sent me to play softball with the boys. 72 00:07:27,055 --> 00:07:33,520 The guards laughed. They just came to me and they started hitting me 73 00:07:33,603 --> 00:07:36,314 I was the ball. 74 00:07:36,398 --> 00:07:40,777 I understood that no one wanted me there, so I left. 75 00:07:40,861 --> 00:07:45,198 I drove to Los Angeles, and found a vacant motel. 76 00:07:45,282 --> 00:07:50,829 It was a two-story motel, with a swimming pool. Later I learned that it was the "Landmark" of Hollywood. 77 00:07:50,912 --> 00:07:55,876 I checked in, took some acid. 78 00:07:55,959 --> 00:07:59,504 It was what we all did at that time. 79 00:07:59,588 --> 00:08:04,634 There it was, flown like a kite, loving the world... 80 00:08:04,718 --> 00:08:08,638 ...When I heard as if they were trying to rape a girl in the pool. 81 00:08:08,722 --> 00:08:14,269 I ran to separate them, and the girl went crazy and it hit me. 82 00:08:14,353 --> 00:08:17,314 They were about to have sex, not fighting. 83 00:08:17,397 --> 00:08:22,361 I had only been to Los Angeles 24 hours and they had already hit me twice. 84 00:08:26,239 --> 00:08:30,410 When I came down in the morning, He heard the girl's voice again. 85 00:08:30,494 --> 00:08:35,082 She asked me if I was the guy she had hit yesterday. It was Janis Joplin. 86 00:08:35,165 --> 00:08:39,669 I introduced myself to the guy who was sitting next to her. It was Jimi Hendrix. 87 00:08:39,753 --> 00:08:43,882 Jimi Hendrix said to me, "Are you Jewish?" - Yes. "Then you should be a manager." 88 00:08:43,965 --> 00:08:48,136 "No problem. Whose?" "Alice Cooper." 89 00:08:49,763 --> 00:08:53,600 We went to the Landmark, we opened the door from your room 90 00:08:53,684 --> 00:08:59,106 It was impossible to see because of the smoke, and it wasn't cigarettes, precisely. 91 00:08:59,189 --> 00:09:02,150 When I could disperse the smoke 92 00:09:02,234 --> 00:09:08,657 - I saw Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison with Shep on the couch. 93 00:09:08,740 --> 00:09:16,289 The biggest names in the industry taxiing with this guy. 94 00:09:16,373 --> 00:09:20,377 They entered, and we went to the bedroom 95 00:09:20,460 --> 00:09:23,755 - I had a lot of of grass in one of the drawers. 96 00:09:23,839 --> 00:09:28,844 I gave them a heap of grass, and they said: "You will be our manager." 97 00:09:30,846 --> 00:09:35,600 The motel, the Hollywood Landmark, It was where Janis later died. 98 00:09:35,684 --> 00:09:41,648 It was popular among musicians, but it was others times, it was not a business. 99 00:09:41,732 --> 00:09:45,068 They were people fighting to survive. doing what they liked 100 00:09:45,152 --> 00:09:48,530 They weren't legends, then. 101 00:09:48,613 --> 00:09:52,242 It was a great group of friends, and we We became a kind of family. 102 00:09:54,494 --> 00:09:58,248 When I started as a manager, Alice had to play in a club called Cheetah. 103 00:09:58,331 --> 00:10:01,626 The Doors headed the bill, so there were a lot of people. 104 00:10:01,710 --> 00:10:05,505 Alice was drunk and yelled at people. 105 00:10:05,589 --> 00:10:09,885 I screamed "Nobody likes me" which is one of his songs. 106 00:10:15,599 --> 00:10:18,310 It was horrible. 107 00:10:21,229 --> 00:10:23,607 "You stink, Alice Cooper!" 108 00:10:23,690 --> 00:10:28,111 He yelled at them: "Go home!" So they did it. It remained empty. 109 00:10:28,195 --> 00:10:34,284 It was sabotage for the Doors, but I didn't care. I wasn't taking it seriously. 110 00:10:34,368 --> 00:10:37,579 I sold him drugs to the people at the motel. 111 00:10:37,662 --> 00:10:44,044 I had to pretend I was a manager, if the The police asked where he got the money from. 112 00:10:44,127 --> 00:10:50,926 Jimi told me one day that he had a group for me, room 28. "Do you have cards?" 113 00:10:51,009 --> 00:10:54,346 "Cards?" "You should have business cards." 114 00:10:54,429 --> 00:11:01,144 "What will the company be called? Jimi proposed something with V, like this." "the peace sign would appear, it would be cool." 115 00:11:01,228 --> 00:11:06,149 We go down to the reception We grab a dictionary. 116 00:11:06,233 --> 00:11:10,153 The first V word we found was: "Alive." 117 00:11:11,530 --> 00:11:16,410 My new clients were Pink Floyd. I was his manager for nine days. 118 00:11:17,786 --> 00:11:24,334 I was really overwhelmed. He was 22 years old and was Alice's manager. 119 00:11:24,418 --> 00:11:28,714 I thought we had made it, when Alice played at the Fillmore. 120 00:11:28,797 --> 00:11:34,428 Bill Graham was the promoter and set the trend in the country. 121 00:11:34,511 --> 00:11:37,681 Alice had to open for Ike and Tina Turner. 122 00:11:37,764 --> 00:11:41,476 I assumed Alice Cooper was a folk singer. 123 00:11:41,560 --> 00:11:46,690 we didn't do anything to change his mind. 124 00:11:46,773 --> 00:11:50,569 Alice suddenly appeared with a jacket made of dead rats. 125 00:11:50,652 --> 00:11:57,576 Bill sent his gorillas to took Alice off stage and evicted us. 126 00:11:57,659 --> 00:12:00,996 This star introduced the use of mascara for men, big deal. 127 00:12:02,289 --> 00:12:07,961 Many were arrested for possession at the motel, so I had to stop. 128 00:12:08,045 --> 00:12:12,841 I asked Alice that she would have to take your career very seriously. 129 00:12:12,924 --> 00:12:16,219 We made a pact to stay together until we become millionaires. 130 00:12:16,303 --> 00:12:19,598 I never doubted Shep. 131 00:12:19,681 --> 00:12:25,228 I just knew what it would do to us navigate through the turbulence. 132 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:32,027 We started getting other gigs, but it wasn't enough. We had to do something radical. 133 00:12:32,110 --> 00:12:36,156 Part of the charm of the bands that were at the level we aspired to - 134 00:12:36,239 --> 00:12:39,493 - It was the fact that the parents hated them. 135 00:12:39,576 --> 00:12:43,663 We knew that if parents hated us, the boys would love it. 136 00:12:43,747 --> 00:12:49,836 It occurred to me how ridiculous it was to buy clothes transparent plastic. 137 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:55,384 Alice would play naked and then I I would call for the police to arrest him 138 00:12:55,467 --> 00:13:01,890 - That would give you media coverage, to make parents hate us 139 00:13:01,973 --> 00:13:06,853 They went on stage completely naked, and the public was completely shocked. 140 00:13:06,937 --> 00:13:10,982 Then he called the police and told them that I had taken my son to this concert 141 00:13:11,066 --> 00:13:15,112 - In which the band was naked. 142 00:13:15,195 --> 00:13:22,994 When the police arrived, the clothes were already soaked, due to the heat. Nothing could be seen. 143 00:13:23,078 --> 00:13:28,083 The police looked and left again. 144 00:13:28,166 --> 00:13:33,630 Finally, we did not achieve the goal of being arrested. 145 00:13:33,714 --> 00:13:38,343 - It was time to leave the city. - We were starving at that time. 146 00:13:38,427 --> 00:13:42,764 Alice was born in Detroit, so we could count with which relatives would feed us, 147 00:13:42,848 --> 00:13:46,977 We went to Detroit and played in several clubs along the way. 148 00:13:47,060 --> 00:13:51,356 Everything that can't happen to a band It happened to us. 149 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:55,861 We never had money, so we paid the motel with bad checks. 150 00:13:55,944 --> 00:14:00,115 We wrote bad checks and We were changing to the hotel next door. 151 00:14:00,198 --> 00:14:04,244 The hotel people called the police, and we fled through the windows. 152 00:14:04,327 --> 00:14:07,998 We got into the car and we drove to the next town. 153 00:14:08,081 --> 00:14:11,293 They claimed that we had stolen our towels. 154 00:14:11,376 --> 00:14:15,797 However, this is nonsense, we never bathe. 155 00:14:15,881 --> 00:14:19,051 When we earn money, Shep came back and paid all the bills.. 156 00:14:19,134 --> 00:14:25,974 "I wrote a check without coverage. Let me do it right." That's how he is. 157 00:14:27,851 --> 00:14:33,190 MC5 is an abbreviation of Motor City 5. They are from Detroit. 158 00:14:36,026 --> 00:14:41,782 We went to the Detroit music scene, there were the MC5 and The Stooges. 159 00:14:41,865 --> 00:14:45,619 In Shep I would develop my character of Alice. 160 00:14:45,702 --> 00:14:50,707 He said: "We have to invent something that no one has ever seen before." 161 00:14:54,669 --> 00:14:58,757 I had a teacher who said "you can achieve a great cultural impact with one of three things: 162 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:04,763 - Violence, sex or rebellion." Alice would have all three. 163 00:15:04,846 --> 00:15:08,642 Shep had a lot to do with what would become the image and sound of Alice Cooper. 164 00:15:08,725 --> 00:15:12,437 We loved doing a show on stage. 165 00:15:12,521 --> 00:15:15,857 The theatrical part was what distinguished us from other bands. 166 00:15:15,941 --> 00:15:21,029 Alice is vaudeville. The idea was for people to stand up and applaud 167 00:15:21,113 --> 00:15:26,660 so we put one dollar bills on a sword, which Alice held out to the public. 168 00:15:26,743 --> 00:15:29,913 If those in the front row stood up To grab them, everyone would jump. 169 00:15:29,996 --> 00:15:33,208 It had nothing to do with the song that were playing - 170 00:15:33,291 --> 00:15:38,463 - But it made everyone stop, They would scream and just have fun. 171 00:15:38,547 --> 00:15:42,926 We needed closure, and we had pillows down in the hotel. 172 00:15:43,009 --> 00:15:48,765 - So we stole them. - We fill the stage with feathers 173 00:15:48,849 --> 00:15:53,311 It was fantastic and cost us nothing. 174 00:15:53,395 --> 00:15:57,733 We knew how to put on a good show, but we didn't know how to sell it. 175 00:15:57,816 --> 00:16:00,986 People have a certain image of who is important 176 00:16:01,069 --> 00:16:08,118 If you see someone being photographed on the street, they get curious, they ask who it is 177 00:16:08,201 --> 00:16:13,832 We often hire photographers without film in the cameras... only fired the flashes 178 00:16:13,915 --> 00:16:17,002 Because that's the expectation of what it is to "be a star." 179 00:16:17,085 --> 00:16:24,134 Even when we were starving, Shep convinced us that we were stars. 180 00:16:24,217 --> 00:16:28,722 "If you have to get drunk every night, because it's "What a star does, then do it." 181 00:16:28,805 --> 00:16:32,642 If you want to reach a much wider audience 182 00:16:32,726 --> 00:16:39,483 The most effective medium is television, so We did things that bothered people. 183 00:16:39,566 --> 00:16:42,486 "Detroit Tubeworks" strikes again 184 00:16:42,569 --> 00:16:46,156 This is where we separate teenagers from adults. 185 00:16:46,239 --> 00:16:51,661 - Introducing the always offensive Alice Cooper 186 00:16:55,082 --> 00:17:01,713 We started to have an audience in Detroit, but we were losing money. 187 00:17:05,300 --> 00:17:10,138 Then a miracle happened: I received a call from the organizer of the Toronto Rock and Roll Revival. 188 00:17:10,222 --> 00:17:14,184 It would be John Lennon's debut without the Beatles. 189 00:17:14,267 --> 00:17:18,939 "If this festival brings hope, maybe we can take it around the world" 190 00:17:19,022 --> 00:17:24,361 - They said: "could you help us organize the festival" - They offered him 30% of the profits. 191 00:17:24,444 --> 00:17:31,284 He told them: "I don't want money. I want my band play between Lennon and the Doors. In prime time." 192 00:17:31,368 --> 00:17:35,664 My choice was to give Alice the opportunity to shine. 193 00:17:35,747 --> 00:17:41,336 60,000 people. We were tearing the place down, and it was great. 194 00:17:41,420 --> 00:17:46,466 The feathers fly. I look down and I see a chicken on the stage. 195 00:17:46,550 --> 00:17:52,514 The only person who could have put it there It's Shep. Nobody brings a chicken to a concert. 196 00:17:52,597 --> 00:17:56,810 Nobody would say: "OK, I have the keys, I have the tickets, I have my chicken...". 197 00:17:56,893 --> 00:18:00,897 I thought "A chicken, that would be perfect..." "I grabbed the chicken... 198 00:18:00,981 --> 00:18:05,527 And I threw it up, thinking it was going to fly 199 00:18:05,610 --> 00:18:09,114 - But he fell into a tailspin. - They went crazy. 200 00:18:09,197 --> 00:18:12,200 - The crowd tore her to pieces. - They threw it back 201 00:18:12,284 --> 00:18:16,204 The wings, the head, the legs, flying across the stage. 202 00:18:16,288 --> 00:18:21,334 I saw blood and I had to look away when I saw her. 203 00:18:24,337 --> 00:18:28,759 The next day the newspapers wrote that Alice He had torn off his head and drank the blood 204 00:18:28,842 --> 00:18:35,182 What could have been terrible press It was what put us on the map. 205 00:18:35,265 --> 00:18:40,896 - Now we could do whatever we wanted. - We had to record a hit. 206 00:18:40,979 --> 00:18:47,903 We liked The Guess Who, who had made a great album 207 00:18:51,823 --> 00:18:56,703 We went to see the producer, Jack Richardson, and he brought a young man. Bob Ezrin. 208 00:18:56,787 --> 00:19:02,209 Bob Ezrin later produced "The Wall", Pink Floyd and "Destroyer" by Kiss. He is brilliant. 209 00:19:02,292 --> 00:19:07,964 But he had never produced an album, and I invited him to New York, to see Alice. 210 00:19:08,048 --> 00:19:13,053 Jack wanted nothing to do with it, and he sent me there. to get rid of them. 211 00:19:13,136 --> 00:19:17,849 Jack had said "under no circumstances do you accept produce the album" 212 00:19:17,933 --> 00:19:22,437 They put me at a table in front, and all the lights went out. 213 00:19:22,521 --> 00:19:29,778 The lights barely shined and I heard him sing "Sun arise / come every morning" 214 00:19:29,861 --> 00:19:34,032 When the lights came on, there was Alice Cooper's face 215 00:19:34,116 --> 00:19:38,203 - And everyone was dressed weirder than the next person 216 00:19:38,286 --> 00:19:43,041 They all wore feathers and high boots. Nobody was wearing jeans and a t-shirt... 217 00:19:43,125 --> 00:19:47,129 This wasn't rock and roll. When I went out and saw that people dressed like them 218 00:19:47,212 --> 00:19:50,757 - I realized it was the beginning of a cultural movement. 219 00:19:50,841 --> 00:19:55,637 I went to the dressing room and promised to produce the disk. I told them: "I will do it!" 220 00:19:55,721 --> 00:19:58,765 Alice signed with Frank Zappa's company. 221 00:19:58,849 --> 00:20:04,646 Zappa was a Warner artist and had negotiated for have your own label. Straight Records. 222 00:20:04,730 --> 00:20:10,694 I went to Zappa and told him we had Richardson and He went crazy, said he was the wrong guy 223 00:20:10,777 --> 00:20:14,614 "He makes pop records, we don't want him, "We don't need it, I'm not going to pay for it." 224 00:20:14,698 --> 00:20:21,872 So I went to talk to a guy from Warner and I told him we had Richardson- 225 00:20:21,955 --> 00:20:28,086 -They would do anything to work with Richardson. They said "Let us see how we fix it." 226 00:20:28,170 --> 00:20:35,427 He came back and said "we have the budget, don't tell him to nobody. We took it from the Doobie Brothers." 227 00:20:35,510 --> 00:20:40,140 That sums up the story of the Doobies. I often laugh at her. 228 00:20:44,686 --> 00:20:50,275 We recorded the album "Love it to Death" and one of the songs was "Eighteen." 229 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,696 - I could feel it would be a success. - "He said: Yes, I like it, I can sell this." 230 00:20:54,780 --> 00:20:59,618 Straight records refused to release it, Frank thought it was too commercial. 231 00:20:59,701 --> 00:21:05,707 - So we had to promote it ourselves. - Shep was very smart to sell it. 232 00:21:05,791 --> 00:21:09,461 There was a radio station in Canada, called CKLW. 233 00:21:09,544 --> 00:21:14,216 If you placed a song on CKLW, others Stations in America would also have to play it. 234 00:21:14,299 --> 00:21:21,223 - I remembered that Canada had... ...The legislation on radio content. 235 00:21:21,306 --> 00:21:26,937 At least 30% of the content on Canadian radio stations It must be by Canadian artists. 236 00:21:27,020 --> 00:21:29,940 Alice was American. 237 00:21:30,023 --> 00:21:34,861 But fortunately we had recorded in Canada, so it was enough. 238 00:21:34,945 --> 00:21:40,367 CKLW programmed the album, because they had to. He was Canadian. 239 00:21:40,450 --> 00:21:46,373 When "eighteen" started climbing the CKLW charts, The rest of the radio stations in the country wanted the song. 240 00:21:46,456 --> 00:21:51,962 But no one knew where the disk was. Warner was inundated with calls. 241 00:21:52,045 --> 00:21:56,925 Straight had refused to publish it, Warner realized they had to do something. 242 00:21:57,009 --> 00:22:02,639 They said, "Don't tell him anything." to Straight, but we'll publish it." 243 00:22:02,723 --> 00:22:08,145 The album was released by Warner. Then Straight I sued them and they published it. 244 00:22:08,228 --> 00:22:12,024 I told them they couldn't release it on Straight, so it came back to Warner again. 245 00:22:12,107 --> 00:22:18,405 The album was released in 17 editions. Straight, Warner, Straight, Warner... 246 00:22:18,488 --> 00:22:21,700 We ended up in a seven or eight year trial. 247 00:22:21,783 --> 00:22:25,454 There were many millions of dollars. 248 00:22:25,537 --> 00:22:29,124 We never got the money, they kept it for themselves. 249 00:22:32,002 --> 00:22:35,589 We were looking for money, and the answer was England. 250 00:22:35,672 --> 00:22:40,886 I immediately booked Alice for Wembley Arena, with capacity for 10,000 seats. 251 00:22:40,969 --> 00:22:47,225 We had only sold 50 tickets. So I He asked how to make Alice known in England. 252 00:22:49,686 --> 00:22:54,566 - Warner had hired a guy named Derek Taylor. - Derek Taylor, the Beatles' publicist. 253 00:22:54,649 --> 00:23:01,615 Derek was a wonderful character, who smoked his cigarette and spoke very little. He created Beatlemania. 254 00:23:01,698 --> 00:23:06,161 - Derek, is it true that the Beatles are ending? - No, not until they die. 255 00:23:06,244 --> 00:23:10,957 When I got to Derek's office, Harry Nilsson, George Harrison were there. 256 00:23:11,041 --> 00:23:15,629 - And Carolyn Pfeiffer, our PR manager in England. 257 00:23:15,712 --> 00:23:21,259 My portfolio of clients included Barbra Streisand, Robert Redford, Liza Minelli, Mac Cartney and Wings... 258 00:23:21,343 --> 00:23:28,141 Selling Alice in England was part of the overall plan to make him a rock star. 259 00:23:28,225 --> 00:23:33,980 Derek asked me to tell him about Alice Cooper. I told him Alice was everything parents hate. 260 00:23:34,064 --> 00:23:39,111 Alice was photographed naked with a boa constrictor on his genitals. 261 00:23:39,194 --> 00:23:43,365 Derek said: photo, truck, Picadilly and we break it. 262 00:23:43,448 --> 00:23:47,077 "Parents will have to hate you." 263 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:52,708 He had the idea of mounting a giant billboard on a truck. and take it to Picadilly Circus. 264 00:23:52,791 --> 00:23:57,170 I had to drive to get there during rush hours and then get stuck. 265 00:23:57,254 --> 00:24:00,215 It is a main artery of London. 266 00:24:00,298 --> 00:24:06,054 Shep told the driver: "No matter what happens, don't move. You're going to be rewarded. "If they arrest you, we'll take care of it." 267 00:24:06,138 --> 00:24:10,267 My job as PR was to make all the press British will find out. 268 00:24:10,350 --> 00:24:14,813 So there they were, taking pictures of a man naked with a snake. 269 00:24:14,896 --> 00:24:18,233 Traffic was completely paralyzed in the center. 270 00:24:18,316 --> 00:24:23,780 - Appeared in all the media. - The next day, tickets for Wembley were sold out 271 00:24:23,864 --> 00:24:30,430 - Function. - This must be a milestone in the decline of the British Empire. 272 00:24:34,750 --> 00:24:41,089 After the concert, the single "School's Out" was number 1 in England and in the world. 273 00:24:41,173 --> 00:24:48,638 It was great to get the money, but the best thing is that it worked for us. I congratulated myself in the mirror. 274 00:24:48,722 --> 00:24:54,019 On the album "School's Out" we really gave ourselves a big jump Everything came together. 275 00:24:54,102 --> 00:24:57,314 The vocals on that album are absolutely unmatched. 276 00:24:59,399 --> 00:25:03,653 The idea for the lid was that it could be folded like the cover of a school bench. 277 00:25:03,737 --> 00:25:10,827 When you opened it you had things like a knife automatic and chewing gum. 278 00:25:10,911 --> 00:25:14,164 - And Shep said, "panties." - Panties. 279 00:25:14,247 --> 00:25:17,417 - I said "Panties?!" - Panties. 280 00:25:17,501 --> 00:25:24,716 "If you are in the seventh grade, they open the bank for you and you have a pair of panties, you're a king." 281 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:29,930 And Shep says, "Let's put the panties on the record." 282 00:25:30,013 --> 00:25:33,767 The Warner guys said, "Do you know how expensive that will be?" 283 00:25:33,850 --> 00:25:38,105 - But Shep said: Do you know how revolutionary that is? 284 00:25:38,188 --> 00:25:42,109 The album sold millions, and we started touring all over the world. 285 00:25:42,192 --> 00:25:47,030 Life on tour is difficult. You never know right where are you when you wake up. 286 00:25:47,114 --> 00:25:50,450 Alcohol and drugs were the rule. 287 00:25:50,534 --> 00:25:54,079 I could order room service at night and have a Bloody Mary on the nightstand 288 00:25:54,162 --> 00:25:57,958 - When he woke up, he looked where he was and drank. 289 00:25:58,041 --> 00:26:01,670 One of the goals was to not have to unpack 290 00:26:01,753 --> 00:26:06,133 Because this way you could wake up from a night of excess and you had nothing left in the room. 291 00:26:06,216 --> 00:26:12,222 Life in Tour was a series of lists. Is everyone here? Did everyone get into the cars? 292 00:26:12,305 --> 00:26:19,646 Did everyone arrive at the airport? Did they search all the luggage? Is everyone at the door? 293 00:26:19,730 --> 00:26:25,569 You arrived at the show location and is all the equipment there? Light operators, to the spotlights. 294 00:26:25,652 --> 00:26:30,365 Half an hour before I need my team uniformed and ready. 295 00:26:30,449 --> 00:26:33,493 Five minutes before the band is standing next from the stage. 296 00:26:33,577 --> 00:26:38,331 One minute before the light goes out and the show starts on time. 297 00:26:57,726 --> 00:27:01,813 The three main tasks of a manager: 1 - Get the money 298 00:27:01,897 --> 00:27:04,733 2 - Always remember to get the money 299 00:27:04,816 --> 00:27:09,529 - And never forget that you must remember to get the money 300 00:27:09,613 --> 00:27:14,034 And then make sure everyone comes back after the show 301 00:27:14,117 --> 00:27:19,581 - that there are no underage women, because they attract too much attention... 302 00:27:19,664 --> 00:27:23,418 - And because it's wrong. - And because it's wrong. 303 00:27:29,591 --> 00:27:33,804 The plane scene in "Almost Famous" is based on something that happened to me when I was on tour. 304 00:27:33,887 --> 00:27:39,810 We were on Alice Cooper's plane, Cameron Crowe was on to write an article about Alice. 305 00:27:39,893 --> 00:27:43,063 An engine started to burn. We thought we were going to fall. 306 00:27:43,146 --> 00:27:47,150 A roadie yelled: "We're going to die! "I have to confess something!" 307 00:27:47,234 --> 00:27:53,657 She turned to a guy whose wife was pregnant and told him "I am the real father of that baby." 308 00:27:53,740 --> 00:28:00,038 Several seconds later, the pilot apologized and He said we would land without problems. 309 00:28:00,122 --> 00:28:04,251 The next 20 minutes were very uncomfortable. 310 00:28:04,334 --> 00:28:08,004 "I haven't died!" 311 00:28:08,088 --> 00:28:12,759 They made the cover of "Billion Dollar Babies" in London. 312 00:28:12,843 --> 00:28:16,805 - I lent them my baby. -She had a very pretty daughter. Lola, who appears 313 00:28:16,810 --> 00:28:22,894 with painted eyes in Alice's arms. Her godfather was Charlie Chaplin. 314 00:28:22,978 --> 00:28:25,480 The album was very, very successful. 315 00:28:29,693 --> 00:28:34,573 We were kids and suddenly, here I was the biggest band in the world 316 00:28:34,656 --> 00:28:37,993 -With your private plane, meeting the best people exotic, in exotic places 317 00:28:38,076 --> 00:28:42,205 They were accepted as superstars. 318 00:29:10,192 --> 00:29:13,236 Most managers say "Oh no, don't do that, It's bad for your image..." 319 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,282 - But Shep was always very positive: "Do it." 320 00:29:17,366 --> 00:29:24,164 We had gotten our first baseball stadium and we were thinking of doing something impressive. 321 00:29:24,247 --> 00:29:28,085 I called Alice and told her: I got it, we're going to help you. shoot from a cannon. 322 00:29:28,168 --> 00:29:34,341 I said, "OK." I didn't tell him: "It's dangerous, maybe "We shouldn't do it." 323 00:29:34,424 --> 00:29:38,261 I would lie down in the canyon, I would come out from the side 324 00:29:38,345 --> 00:29:44,309 And while they put a doll in the cannon and fired it to a network 325 00:29:44,393 --> 00:29:49,064 I would have already arrived and would appear on the other side. That was the trick. 326 00:29:51,441 --> 00:29:56,029 They shot, there was an explosion and the doll flew less than a meter. 327 00:29:56,113 --> 00:30:01,868 - It fell just... - I've never seen anything worse. 328 00:30:01,952 --> 00:30:06,832 People were screaming with laughter, It worked as an Inspector Clouseau gag. 329 00:30:06,915 --> 00:30:11,878 We ended up selling the cannon to the Rolling Stones. 330 00:30:14,548 --> 00:30:18,844 I moved to Los Angeles for business reasons. 331 00:30:18,927 --> 00:30:24,224 In the 70s, there was too much success, too many beautiful women, too many drugs... 332 00:30:24,307 --> 00:30:29,062 Alice had alcohol problems, I spent time at the Playboy Mansion. 333 00:30:29,146 --> 00:30:36,278 The first time I left my clothes next to the jacuzzi and when I left It had disappeared, I thought it had been stolen from me. 334 00:30:36,361 --> 00:30:42,826 At the Playboy Mansion they had people who ironed you and left your clothes hanging while you bathed. 335 00:30:42,909 --> 00:30:46,621 Being in the Playboy Mansion and getting ironed while you were in the jacuzzi - 336 00:30:46,705 --> 00:30:51,084 - was a dream for any Jewish child from Rhode Island. 337 00:30:51,168 --> 00:30:54,963 Then he met Marcy Hanson, a Playboy model. We had a very intense relationship. 338 00:30:55,047 --> 00:30:58,842 We got married after a short period of time 339 00:30:58,925 --> 00:31:04,431 - But we realized it was a mistake and we managed to annul the marriage. 340 00:31:04,514 --> 00:31:07,642 Then I started earning money and bought some houses. 341 00:31:07,726 --> 00:31:14,733 One of them had a little train between the house and the pool. He also bought Alice's house. 342 00:31:14,816 --> 00:31:20,072 People kept ringing the bell and then I discovered that the house was on the "Hollywood Stars Map." 343 00:31:20,155 --> 00:31:25,160 So I made a sign: "Alice doesn't live here anymore. Come back and ask for a refund.” 344 00:31:25,243 --> 00:31:30,332 When I lived there I had a cat, called "the sensitive one" and my neighbor was Cary Grant. 345 00:31:30,415 --> 00:31:34,461 One day, the cat disappeared, Someone said he was at Cary Grant's house. 346 00:31:34,544 --> 00:31:38,965 So the next day I went to ring his doorbell, and his assistant opened it. 347 00:31:39,049 --> 00:31:44,805 Through the crack I could see Cary Grant with "the sensitive one" and I told him it was my cat. 348 00:31:44,888 --> 00:31:49,184 But his wife told me I couldn't take the cat that had given him back the joy of living. 349 00:31:49,267 --> 00:31:53,146 So we agreed to share custody. 350 00:31:56,942 --> 00:32:02,239 It is important for me in business to try to make compassionate negotiations. 351 00:32:02,322 --> 00:32:09,246 There are no losers, only winners. Much of this These are what I call "coupons." 352 00:32:09,329 --> 00:32:14,626 By this I mean pay the people who do it for you. something you don't have to do. 353 00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:18,672 I have no words to express How nice it is to have you on my show. 354 00:32:18,755 --> 00:32:22,050 Well, a little money wouldn't hurt... 355 00:32:23,260 --> 00:32:29,224 - I met Groucho through Alice. - Groucho saw us on TV and wanted to see our show. 356 00:32:29,307 --> 00:32:32,269 When he went to see it, he saw it as vaudeville. 357 00:32:32,352 --> 00:32:39,192 They became friends with Alice and she accompanied him, literally, until he fell asleep at night. They watched TV 358 00:32:39,276 --> 00:32:44,948 And Alice was telling me about Groucho's comments about all the people who came out. 359 00:32:45,032 --> 00:32:50,871 "This one is gay." "This one liked dwarves." "That guy was fucking Zeppo's girlfriend." 360 00:32:50,954 --> 00:32:57,961 -He had a story about each one. - But his finances were a disaster. 361 00:32:58,045 --> 00:33:04,760 Shep promised to look at his finances and put the things in order for Groucho. 362 00:33:04,843 --> 00:33:08,263 - So I was Groucho's manager. - And he did it for free. Every time we saw each other, he told me: 363 00:33:08,347 --> 00:33:12,351 Every time we saw each other, he told me: "Are you Shep? My manager?" 364 00:33:12,434 --> 00:33:16,063 "Funny, you don't look like a criminal." 365 00:33:16,146 --> 00:33:21,693 We investigated what things he had made money with, and A and M had made a live album. 366 00:33:21,777 --> 00:33:26,406 I heard about Jerry Moss, who was the head of A and M. He was one of the giants of the industry. 367 00:33:26,490 --> 00:33:31,953 I asked him if they could give Marx an advance against future projects. 368 00:33:32,037 --> 00:33:36,541 Jerry, being who he is, wrote a very big check for Groucho. 369 00:33:36,625 --> 00:33:41,421 "What else can I do to help?" I'm still paying the coupon back. 370 00:33:41,505 --> 00:33:47,719 I will do anything, at any time, Jerry Moss needs. That's a coupon. 371 00:33:47,803 --> 00:33:54,935 After some time with Alice and Groucho I wanted to see if my talent worked with others. 372 00:33:55,018 --> 00:33:58,855 I didn't understand Anne Murray at all. 373 00:34:01,108 --> 00:34:06,947 - She was a folk singer from Canada. -He had the purest voice... 374 00:34:07,030 --> 00:34:09,908 ...and it was the most different from Alice that could have been get. 375 00:34:09,991 --> 00:34:14,746 I was not ostentatious. She was just a really good singer. 376 00:34:14,830 --> 00:34:21,044 Very white, very clean, very half-American. More than half American, she was Canadian. 377 00:34:21,128 --> 00:34:24,923 When I was in Los Angeles recording, He lived in Shep's house. 378 00:34:25,007 --> 00:34:29,428 Not only did the refrigerator overflow with alcohol 379 00:34:29,511 --> 00:34:35,267 But also someone had posted a note: "Anne: There's a surprise for you in the drawer." 380 00:34:35,350 --> 00:34:40,939 I looked and there was a large pot with white powder. 381 00:34:45,277 --> 00:34:50,949 I didn't know that was there. I didn't know about that until I read your book... 382 00:34:54,453 --> 00:34:59,332 What I was looking for in Shep was for him to give me a boost in the industry 383 00:34:59,416 --> 00:35:03,211 - And everyone who was "someone" They were on the "Midnight Special." 384 00:35:03,295 --> 00:35:10,802 At a time when cool was everything, Midnight Special He had no interest in a proper Canadian singer. 385 00:35:10,886 --> 00:35:16,975 I had to do something to make Annie really happy. in wave. 386 00:35:17,059 --> 00:35:22,064 She would play at the Troubadour, that was very cool, but the people were totally indifferent. 387 00:35:22,147 --> 00:35:26,777 One of the techniques I use is the call "associated guilt." 388 00:35:26,860 --> 00:35:32,908 It consists of taking someone really famous and putting them to another person next to it, thus sharing its shine with another. 389 00:35:32,991 --> 00:35:35,994 Alice had a group. The Hollywood Vampires. 390 00:35:36,078 --> 00:35:41,458 The Hollywood Vampires were a group of drinkers: Harry Nilsson, Mickey Dolenz and John Lennon. 391 00:35:41,541 --> 00:35:44,920 He was going through a dark era and they rarely took photos of it. 392 00:35:45,003 --> 00:35:49,299 A photo of Lennon would be great. 393 00:35:49,383 --> 00:35:54,721 He told me: Alice, I want the Hollywood Vampires Come listen to Anne Murray. 394 00:35:54,805 --> 00:36:02,270 The goal was to get a photo of Anne with these icons, the coolest people in the world. 395 00:36:02,354 --> 00:36:06,441 - They were all conical. - They were at the Rainbow, so I went... 396 00:36:06,525 --> 00:36:09,528 ...I got on my knees and begged them. 397 00:36:09,611 --> 00:36:14,991 "Boys, I represent Anne Murray, and she's going to play at the Troubadour." 398 00:36:15,075 --> 00:36:21,748 "If I can take a photo of you with it, I will do whatever be it for you." They agreed. 399 00:36:21,832 --> 00:36:29,423 Photography became more noticeable than any other photo in my career. 400 00:36:29,506 --> 00:36:37,055 Rolling Stone wanted to interview me, suddenly I It was THE girl. For a few weeks... 401 00:36:37,139 --> 00:36:42,269 I put it on "Midnight Special." Help. 402 00:36:48,191 --> 00:36:54,740 Annie never tried to be different from herself. It didn't go to Midnight Special and become something else. 403 00:37:02,998 --> 00:37:09,338 They thought Shep was crazy for taking Anne Murray, but the truth is that he hated the Alice Cooper thing 404 00:37:09,421 --> 00:37:13,925 He liked Anne Murray's folk music and things like The Spinners. 405 00:37:14,009 --> 00:37:18,138 He would have liked Alice's music was more like The Spinners 406 00:37:18,221 --> 00:37:24,561 Soul music. That's what I like. Aretha, Etta James, Harold Melvin and The Blue Notes. 407 00:37:24,644 --> 00:37:30,400 There was a song "Wake Up Everybody" that was my anthem I listened to it every day. 408 00:37:33,820 --> 00:37:40,202 I got a call from CBS Records "We have an artist "We think it will be big and we need a good manager." 409 00:37:40,285 --> 00:37:45,290 It was Teddy Pendergrass. I had never heard of him. I went to hear it in Philadelphia. 410 00:37:45,374 --> 00:37:49,169 He played in a small club. 411 00:37:49,252 --> 00:37:56,009 The spectacle was absolutely regrettable, with a James Brown cape, with fat ballerinas. 412 00:37:56,093 --> 00:38:02,683 But he sang "Wake Up Everybody" and I realized that He was the guy from Harold Melvin and the blue notes. 413 00:38:02,766 --> 00:38:07,896 I went to wait for him in the hallway to talk to him, just like all the Jewish managers, lined up like cows. 414 00:38:07,979 --> 00:38:13,402 So I left. I never spoke to Teddy. CBS called and I asked him how it was. 415 00:38:13,485 --> 00:38:19,658 I'm not going to line up in the hallway to tell you who I am. cool guy, so we asked to meet at his house. 416 00:38:19,741 --> 00:38:24,705 Outside the building was a white Rolls-Royce that said "TEDDY" in the patent. 417 00:38:24,788 --> 00:38:30,836 I took the elevator to the penthouse and said: "It won't take up much of your time. I don't know much about life." 418 00:38:30,919 --> 00:38:35,007 "But I'll tell you what I can do: I can get more high that you..." 419 00:38:35,090 --> 00:38:39,302 "...I have women more beautiful than you, I can get drunker than you... 420 00:38:39,386 --> 00:38:43,640 "And when you collapse with your money show in your pocket..." 421 00:38:43,724 --> 00:38:47,144 "...I will be in a position to put that money safe and not stolen." 422 00:38:47,227 --> 00:38:51,481 He said, "What?" I said, "Why don't we get together?" somewhere and bring your best drugs. 423 00:38:51,565 --> 00:38:56,611 "And if you're still standing after that, don't worry." you need. If I'm standing, you need me" 424 00:38:56,695 --> 00:39:02,409 I was expecting a no, but instead he said yes. I thought "Shit, now I'll have to do it." 425 00:39:02,492 --> 00:39:06,621 I thought, now I'll need a really cool briefcase 426 00:39:06,705 --> 00:39:11,710 - And he bought me a wooden one, that you opened it and It was full of drugs. It was a pharmacy. 427 00:39:11,793 --> 00:39:15,547 We smoke weed, we do cocaine, We ate mushrooms, we drank quaaludes... 428 00:39:15,630 --> 00:39:22,220 The women came and went. We were bad. Three days later it collapsed. 429 00:39:22,304 --> 00:39:26,058 I was his manager the rest of his life. 430 00:39:26,141 --> 00:39:32,356 The best thing about Shep is his stories. Account that at an Alice Cooper concert somewhere 431 00:39:32,439 --> 00:39:38,528 When Alice returned to the dressing room there was a lot of tables with food, sandwiches, drinks 432 00:39:38,612 --> 00:39:42,783 But a month later, Teddy Pendergrass played at the same place 433 00:39:42,866 --> 00:39:45,869 and on the way back there was barely a bottle of water. 434 00:39:45,952 --> 00:39:52,626 After the show I went to ask Teddy for money promoter, but said he didn't have it and refused to pay 435 00:39:52,709 --> 00:39:58,382 I told him "If you don't pay, you won't get out of here alive." I have no family, I have nothing to lose, I don't care 436 00:39:58,465 --> 00:40:02,636 He offered me his ring, so I took it and went to Teddy's. 437 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:07,182 "How the fuck can I get 20% of this ring?" 438 00:40:07,265 --> 00:40:12,437 Then he explained to me about something that blew my mind, called the "Chitlin' circuit." 439 00:40:12,521 --> 00:40:16,817 Promoters who own radio stations, They hire the artists and play their records 440 00:40:16,900 --> 00:40:19,653 - But they don't pay them a dollar. 441 00:40:19,736 --> 00:40:25,367 The artists see that if they don't do the shows, they won't They get played on the radio and lose their recording contracts. 442 00:40:25,450 --> 00:40:32,165 This made him realize that artists were being treated in a very incorrect way. 443 00:40:32,249 --> 00:40:35,544 I said, "Fuck it, let's break the circuit." 444 00:40:35,627 --> 00:40:40,632 He said, "I don't want to scare you but you know what Did it happen to my ex manager? " 445 00:40:40,716 --> 00:40:43,802 "They shot her to death. You don't play with these guys." 446 00:40:43,885 --> 00:40:48,265 Oh shit, she was murdered? This is serious stuff 447 00:40:48,348 --> 00:40:51,768 At that time the industry was full of gangsters. 448 00:40:51,852 --> 00:40:57,274 You had to be able to try and face this type of people. 449 00:40:57,357 --> 00:41:00,777 I truly believe I had nothing to lose. He was a lonely guy... 450 00:41:00,861 --> 00:41:04,781 "Fuck it. I'll write you down in a white place and They are going to pay. "I'm not going to do that shit." 451 00:41:04,865 --> 00:41:09,745 "Then, let them kill us. I don't care." 452 00:41:09,828 --> 00:41:13,874 We booked the Roxy in L.A., which was so white which was like too white. 453 00:41:18,670 --> 00:41:22,507 But he made the most boring show that night. He stayed sitting on a floor. 454 00:41:22,591 --> 00:41:26,386 After the show he scolded him "Son of a bitch, 455 00:41:26,470 --> 00:41:29,931 "I risk my life to see how you stay sitting on a floor?" 456 00:41:30,015 --> 00:41:34,144 "All the girls in the public the only thing What they want to do is shoot you until you die..." 457 00:41:34,227 --> 00:41:37,522 "...And then you're left sitting in a chair, playing cool." 458 00:41:37,606 --> 00:41:43,111 "I'd like to be the only guy in the room when you have them that hot." 459 00:41:43,195 --> 00:41:48,492 Then I had an idea. "Wait a second. Let's do it." women-only concerts." 460 00:41:54,790 --> 00:42:00,837 There's been a lot of screaming lately in the theater Greek What causes so much excitement? Teddy Pendergrass. 461 00:42:00,921 --> 00:42:05,467 Last night's concert, sold out, It was only for women. 462 00:42:05,550 --> 00:42:10,305 Then Teddy realized it was all about about sex, and that's where the songs came from 463 00:42:10,597 --> 00:42:14,643 - What do you like about him? - Your body. 464 00:42:14,726 --> 00:42:20,107 Five platinum albums in a row. That must be a record. 465 00:42:20,190 --> 00:42:26,571 He would be the black Elvis. We said it all the time, to support him. 466 00:42:30,158 --> 00:42:34,162 I have nothing to lose, I don't have a family, I don't have kids, I don't give a shit. 467 00:42:37,833 --> 00:42:42,129 At this point in my life I was very successful, but not it meant nothing. 468 00:42:42,212 --> 00:42:49,136 I was stressed about L.A. That "what" are you culture instead of "who" you are. Everything was so superficial. 469 00:42:49,219 --> 00:42:54,766 A friend who was invited to all the parties, but I wanted a family and I didn't have one 470 00:42:54,850 --> 00:42:57,936 I didn't have time to make anyone fall in love. 471 00:42:58,020 --> 00:43:02,441 All the people I met, was damaged by fame. 472 00:43:02,524 --> 00:43:07,279 At that time, Jimi Hendrix was dead, Jim Morrison was dead, Janis Joplin... 473 00:43:07,362 --> 00:43:13,201 - And Alice was in treatment. You went up to The peak and fall would be worse. The pattern was obvious. 474 00:43:13,285 --> 00:43:16,913 It dawned on me, I was becoming one of them. 475 00:43:30,052 --> 00:43:33,305 Maui is the newest landmass on the planet. 476 00:43:33,388 --> 00:43:39,436 The island has the personality of a child. It smells sweet, like a child 477 00:43:39,519 --> 00:43:42,814 Everything that a baby has, the island has. 478 00:43:42,898 --> 00:43:46,318 There is an incredible innocence. 479 00:43:47,694 --> 00:43:51,365 I came to Maui in 1974. 480 00:43:51,448 --> 00:43:55,202 I knew immediately that I would like to stay here forever. 481 00:43:55,285 --> 00:44:00,082 I sold the house in Los Angeles and then I moved to Maui. 482 00:44:00,165 --> 00:44:04,002 My life in Hawaii revolves around my house. 483 00:44:04,086 --> 00:44:07,714 I paid probably $620,000. 484 00:44:07,798 --> 00:44:11,885 Now, the value is 15 to 20 million. 485 00:44:11,968 --> 00:44:15,055 But I don't sell.. 486 00:44:16,431 --> 00:44:22,521 I have the doors open for my friends, They can stay even if I'm not there. 487 00:44:22,604 --> 00:44:26,191 Probably because when I was a child I didn't have friends... 488 00:44:26,274 --> 00:44:30,821 ...now I'm making up for it, somehow 489 00:44:31,488 --> 00:44:35,867 Shep was born with a smile, and the smile has accompanied him since then 490 00:44:35,951 --> 00:44:40,163 I grew up in Oceanside, a small town on the outskirts of New York. 491 00:44:40,247 --> 00:44:45,711 I have had a good relationship with my father, he sacrificed a lot, but my mother ran the house. 492 00:44:45,794 --> 00:44:51,591 My mom was a tough Jewish mom. She was a very cruel lady. 493 00:44:51,675 --> 00:44:55,220 My brother, Edward, He was the star of the family. 494 00:44:55,303 --> 00:44:58,473 Shep was the black sheep of the family. 495 00:44:58,557 --> 00:45:04,813 When they gave me money for my birthday Mom made me give it to my brother Edward. 496 00:45:04,896 --> 00:45:09,860 He had a dog, who always bit me. 497 00:45:09,943 --> 00:45:15,032 So I grew up without friends to visit me. 498 00:45:15,115 --> 00:45:20,245 - I just came from the farm. - I just got back from the beach. 499 00:45:20,454 --> 00:45:24,333 Health 500 00:45:24,791 --> 00:45:30,297 - Look at this puppy. - What do you say? 501 00:45:33,425 --> 00:45:39,639 I never had interest in food. I was a spaghetti and ketchup guy. 502 00:45:39,723 --> 00:45:44,811 But one night, in Cannes, they took me to the restaurant Le Moulin de Mougins. 503 00:45:44,895 --> 00:45:50,609 All the Hollywood stars were there, and then came an elegant gentleman with white hair. 504 00:45:50,692 --> 00:45:56,740 They all turned. James Coburn and Anthony Quinn jumped out to greet him. 505 00:45:56,823 --> 00:46:00,327 I didn't know who it was, but I felt attracted to him 506 00:46:00,410 --> 00:46:04,289 I immediately decided that he was someone Who would I like to learn? 507 00:46:04,373 --> 00:46:08,960 Then they told me it was him chef Roger Verg�, 5 Michelin stars. 508 00:46:09,044 --> 00:46:12,631 The founder of nouvelle cuisine. 509 00:46:12,714 --> 00:46:18,178 I was pretty tipsy and went to the mr. Verg�, who was sitting with Picasso. 510 00:46:18,261 --> 00:46:23,975 It isn't true. Picasso actually died in 1973. Shep was very high. 511 00:46:24,059 --> 00:46:27,646 Maybe it wasn't Picasso. I was pretty high that night. 512 00:46:27,729 --> 00:46:32,109 I told him: "Sir, I would like to be your grasshopper." 513 00:46:32,192 --> 00:46:36,321 He responded in very bad English: "What does grasshopper mean?" 514 00:46:36,405 --> 00:46:39,991 He said he was a cook. 515 00:46:40,075 --> 00:46:44,037 I said I would cook for learn from him. 516 00:46:44,121 --> 00:46:47,249 Then we became friends 517 00:46:47,332 --> 00:46:52,796 - And we travel together five or six weeks a year. 518 00:46:52,879 --> 00:46:59,011 Verg� helped me realize that you can be successful and happy. 519 00:46:59,094 --> 00:47:02,597 I had only seen success and suffering 520 00:47:02,681 --> 00:47:06,435 He was the first person I saw with true success. 521 00:47:06,518 --> 00:47:12,691 Competent and respected, and he was always happy. 522 00:47:12,774 --> 00:47:17,863 His happiness came from the fact that Always put others before himself. 523 00:47:17,946 --> 00:47:20,991 Mr. Verg� taught me the art of dinner. 524 00:47:21,074 --> 00:47:27,289 Put up a sign, shells or something, announcing There is a party at his house. 525 00:47:27,372 --> 00:47:32,252 It's almost like there is no invitation. It is assumed and not discussed. 526 00:47:32,336 --> 00:47:36,673 The idea is that everyone feels so good as possible. 527 00:47:36,757 --> 00:47:42,846 One must focus completely on his guests. It's not about what YOU want. 528 00:47:42,929 --> 00:47:49,227 If you have young people, bright light. If they are old, soft lighting. 529 00:47:49,311 --> 00:47:52,814 Round tables make everyone equally important. 530 00:47:52,898 --> 00:47:58,612 If you are famous and you sit with people who look at you amazed without saying a word - 531 00:47:58,695 --> 00:48:03,784 - It can be uncomfortable. No one is going to ask you for your autograph in my house. 532 00:48:03,867 --> 00:48:07,662 I invite people who don't know each other but who maybe wants to do it. 533 00:48:07,746 --> 00:48:13,919 He introduced me to Clint Eastwood, and he told us: have fun. 534 00:48:14,002 --> 00:48:16,922 "What the fuck..." Clint thought, but he had to be with me, Shep told him. 535 00:48:17,005 --> 00:48:22,386 Shep asked me if I wanted to go to Luau on Schwarzenegger and Sly. 536 00:48:22,469 --> 00:48:27,140 I had no idea, that he was so gourmand. 537 00:48:27,224 --> 00:48:34,147 But there I was, in a big dinner with wonderful friends and acquaintances. 538 00:48:34,231 --> 00:48:40,862 There they were. Schwarzenegger, Stallone... it was like to be in Madame Tussaud�s but with a pig. 539 00:48:40,946 --> 00:48:46,118 Mr. Verg� taught me that if there was someone whom everyone would like to know - 540 00:48:46,201 --> 00:48:51,331 - had to leave an empty chair in each table, so the person can change. 541 00:48:51,415 --> 00:48:57,004 There are also those with whom no one should sit. I usually end up sitting with them. 542 00:48:57,087 --> 00:49:03,969 If I hear someone talking about business, I go straight to the table. If you start harassing someone, they will never invite you again. 543 00:49:04,052 --> 00:49:09,349 At some point the party ends, although some do not they find out. 544 00:49:09,433 --> 00:49:13,854 You can't just throw people out, So I go to bed and leave everyone there. 545 00:49:21,278 --> 00:49:26,366 For most, living on an island like Maui It means losing contact with the world. 546 00:49:26,450 --> 00:49:30,245 But Shep Gorden is the link - 547 00:49:30,328 --> 00:49:34,207 - The meeting point of all the important people of the entire world. 548 00:49:34,291 --> 00:49:39,296 Everyone ends up in Maui, at some point and they end up in Shep's kitchen. 549 00:49:40,464 --> 00:49:44,092 Shep's house in Hawaii is like a sanctuary. 550 00:49:44,176 --> 00:49:48,263 There was a period in my life, which was very difficult for me. 551 00:49:48,347 --> 00:49:54,353 I called him and told him I wanted to stay. with him for a week. 552 00:49:54,436 --> 00:49:59,483 "I know I probably should wait for an invitation from you." 553 00:49:59,566 --> 00:50:03,904 However, he said, that the door was open, whenever he wanted. 554 00:50:03,987 --> 00:50:07,657 I stayed there for two months. 555 00:50:07,741 --> 00:50:11,578 He fed me - 556 00:50:11,661 --> 00:50:16,166 - And he took care of me, as if fuera un pajarito ca�do del nido. 557 00:50:16,249 --> 00:50:23,548 He is a protector. He keeps the wolf away. 558 00:50:23,632 --> 00:50:28,845 A problem with Hawaii, like in many places, 559 00:50:28,929 --> 00:50:33,600 - It is a good resting place for celebrities, 560 00:50:33,684 --> 00:50:38,480 But you have to live with the paparazzi. 561 00:50:38,563 --> 00:50:44,027 And not everyone wants to be seen when they are in the water, like a beached whale. 562 00:50:44,778 --> 00:50:50,951 An idiot took some photos of me without shirt the Four Seasons 563 00:50:51,034 --> 00:50:55,706 -And for two consecutive years he was there "Beached Whale" in the Enquirer. 564 00:50:55,789 --> 00:50:58,875 I stuck it on the refrigerator, as inspiration to lose weight. It didn't work. 565 00:50:58,959 --> 00:51:02,587 Shep promised to take care of the problem. 566 00:51:02,671 --> 00:51:06,842 He sounded like a gangster. "Ready" Did you kill him? 567 00:51:06,925 --> 00:51:09,970 That would be good, but he reached an agreement with him. 568 00:51:10,053 --> 00:51:14,099 - The phone rang. - Hello Derek. It's Shep. 569 00:51:14,182 --> 00:51:18,228 "Yes, Shep, that was me." "So. How do we do it?" 570 00:51:18,311 --> 00:51:22,441 - "Both of you should be happy." - It took me a while... 571 00:51:22,524 --> 00:51:26,069 ...And I only ask that you let me do some you take from time to time 572 00:51:26,153 --> 00:51:32,117 The wedding was at Shep's, and you could see it from the beach. 573 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:36,079 We didn't want to have photographs of people. 574 00:51:36,163 --> 00:51:40,751 - So I talked to Derek. - Photographed Tom Arnold's wedding, here with Shep. 575 00:51:40,834 --> 00:51:45,714 Derek walked over and took a photo, and there was no one else, no people on the beach. 576 00:51:45,797 --> 00:51:49,259 I knew who the other paparazzi was and I had a guy on the beach, 577 00:51:49,343 --> 00:51:55,057 - keeping two other photographers away and I made another guy follow him. 578 00:51:55,140 --> 00:51:59,686 I wanted to keep celebrities happy Shep happy, above all. 579 00:51:59,770 --> 00:52:03,940 Shep never talks about revenge 580 00:52:04,024 --> 00:52:07,861 - Find a way to solve things. 581 00:52:09,237 --> 00:52:15,243 Shep is not starstruck, but yes with women. 582 00:52:15,369 --> 00:52:21,917 My favorite girlfriend of Shep's, his first, was Winona The one I felt the most connection with. 583 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:26,963 I met Winona Williams in the 70s on a blind date. 584 00:52:27,047 --> 00:52:32,803 She was a model, very beautiful, she moved that night. Then came his daughter Mia. 585 00:52:32,886 --> 00:52:36,014 We lived together for three years. 586 00:52:36,098 --> 00:52:40,602 Unfortunately, we parted ways, and moved to the east coast. 587 00:52:40,686 --> 00:52:44,439 I didn't see them for 15 years. 588 00:52:44,523 --> 00:52:49,361 In 1991 my name was Winona. and said Mia was dead. 589 00:52:49,444 --> 00:52:52,906 And for the funeral I saw these four little, beautiful angels. 590 00:52:52,989 --> 00:52:56,827 I didn't know that Mia had children. 591 00:52:56,910 --> 00:53:03,750 I told Winona, I have resources, I don't know if I have emotions, but I have resources 592 00:53:03,834 --> 00:53:07,963 "If you're going to raise them for the next 18 years, I'll pay for it." 593 00:53:08,046 --> 00:53:12,509 Saw a lot of children, that were hers, 594 00:53:12,592 --> 00:53:17,472 - And he loved her so much, That motivated the decision. 595 00:53:17,556 --> 00:53:22,144 - And he loved her so much, the decision was consolidated. 596 00:53:22,227 --> 00:53:27,941 - In a few days I bought a house for them, They moved, and the journey began. 597 00:53:28,025 --> 00:53:31,194 - Here comes Chase This is our beautiful house. 598 00:53:31,278 --> 00:53:36,241 It took me a year before I met them, I was busy with my clients 599 00:53:36,324 --> 00:53:42,831 - And I was probably a little afraid. But over time I decided to visit them. 600 00:53:42,914 --> 00:53:48,211 It's a huge kiss! 601 00:53:48,712 --> 00:53:53,800 Shortly after we had met Shep, then he took us on vacation to Disney World. 602 00:53:53,884 --> 00:54:00,682 I had always wanted to go, but I had never done it as a child 603 00:54:00,766 --> 00:54:04,102 I grew up without parents. Mi mam� muri� cuando ten�a tres. 604 00:54:04,186 --> 00:54:09,232 As� que la entrada de este hombre, esta figura paterna, que nos ayud� a crecer 605 00:54:09,316 --> 00:54:13,653 - Y nos ayud� a comprender el mundo fue realmente una bendici�n. 606 00:54:13,737 --> 00:54:18,367 It was one thing to support them. y darles regalos como ni�os- 607 00:54:18,450 --> 00:54:21,495 - Pero �l estaba all� todo el tiempo. 608 00:54:21,578 --> 00:54:25,123 I met them when the children were little. 609 00:54:25,207 --> 00:54:30,545 When they went swimming, then they came to my house 610 00:54:30,629 --> 00:54:34,257 - We would bathe and they would accompany me to cook on the grill. 611 00:54:34,341 --> 00:54:37,928 I have known these children for a long time and I feel great love for them. 612 00:54:38,261 --> 00:54:44,768 - I call him Grandpa Shep. -He is a father figure and role model. 613 00:54:44,851 --> 00:54:47,771 - I love it. - We love each other. 614 00:54:47,854 --> 00:54:54,736 I always hoped to get one family, and suddenly he was there. 615 00:54:58,907 --> 00:55:01,952 Hello. 616 00:55:02,035 --> 00:55:06,456 He loves children. My sister had a baby. 617 00:55:06,540 --> 00:55:13,088 I had never seen him like this, cradling her, It's a side of Shep that I didn't know. 618 00:55:13,171 --> 00:55:20,178 He would be a great father, and I can see him have a son. 619 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,936 He has always been like this, family oriented. 620 00:55:28,020 --> 00:55:34,526 always knew that that energy, family and love They are what drives the artist. 621 00:55:34,609 --> 00:55:40,657 The word "mensch" is synonymous with Shep. (Yiddish word for someone noble and upright) 622 00:55:40,741 --> 00:55:45,787 A mensch is trustworthy, and he is always there for you- 623 00:55:45,871 --> 00:55:49,041 - In good times and bad 624 00:55:49,124 --> 00:55:56,131 Shep has helped many, They've had it pretty hard. 625 00:55:56,214 --> 00:56:00,177 Shep has taught me loyalty, because he is so loyal. 626 00:56:00,260 --> 00:56:06,475 Carolyn's daughter, Lola, died of sudden infant death syndrome. 627 00:56:06,558 --> 00:56:09,853 Carolyn called and told me that we would get together 628 00:56:09,936 --> 00:56:14,775 He wanted to get away from England. The memory of Lola seemed very painful to him. 629 00:56:14,858 --> 00:56:19,905 I welcomed Carolyn with open arms. 630 00:56:19,988 --> 00:56:25,577 She wanted to make movies, so we started making them. 631 00:56:25,661 --> 00:56:29,081 - We did "The Duellists." - Ridley Scott's first film. 632 00:56:29,164 --> 00:56:36,672 -Won at Cannes in 1977. ...Ridley Scott "The Duellists." 633 00:56:36,755 --> 00:56:42,427 - We also did "Roadie". -My clients were there: Alice and Blondie. 634 00:56:42,511 --> 00:56:46,723 Then we realized that we didn't like them. film studios 635 00:56:46,807 --> 00:56:49,518 - So we started Island Alive. 636 00:56:49,601 --> 00:56:53,772 We were pioneers of American independent cinema. 637 00:56:53,855 --> 00:56:57,567 Carolyn was the first woman president of a studio. 638 00:56:57,651 --> 00:57:01,947 Thanks to Shep, I was the The only woman who could approve movies. 639 00:57:02,072 --> 00:57:08,620 We had a very low budget, but he gave me freedom of action. 640 00:57:08,704 --> 00:57:14,042 - We made incredible movies. - The first one we bought was "Koyaanisqatsi". 641 00:57:14,126 --> 00:57:18,255 People thought we were crazy, the title was unpronounceable 642 00:57:18,338 --> 00:57:22,592 - And there were no actors, no narration, but we believed in it. 643 00:57:22,676 --> 00:57:27,723 We did "Red Headed Stranger." (film about Willie Nelson, 1975) 644 00:57:27,806 --> 00:57:31,309 I had to make the movie, and Shep could distribute it. 645 00:57:31,393 --> 00:57:34,521 I think we made 7 or 8 dollars with it. 646 00:57:34,604 --> 00:57:39,651 - "The kiss of the spider woman." -The Oscar winner is William Hurt. 647 00:57:40,027 --> 00:57:46,199 I wouldn't compare us to anything. Alive was Miramax, before Miramax 648 00:57:46,283 --> 00:57:50,829 - I think Harvey Weinstein would agree. - No way. 649 00:57:52,873 --> 00:57:56,501 Early in my career, I read a book called "Billion Dollar Baby." 650 00:57:56,585 --> 00:58:00,964 In it there was a character, Shep Gordon who managed a troop of madmen. 651 00:58:01,048 --> 00:58:07,971 I wanted to make a rock version of "Citizen Kane" with Shep: "Citizen Insane." 652 00:58:21,401 --> 00:58:27,366 The role probably wasn't for me, because Shep is fiercer than me. 653 00:58:29,534 --> 00:58:33,830 - Is that okay, Alice? - Yes, come. 654 00:58:33,914 --> 00:58:38,001 I met Shep Gordon in 1991 when we did "Wayne's World." 655 00:58:38,085 --> 00:58:42,089 Mike wanted to use "Eighteen" or "School's Out" 656 00:58:42,172 --> 00:58:46,635 - But I had an agenda. -Shep said: 657 00:58:46,718 --> 00:58:51,264 "And how about you use some of the new album?" I said, "What if not?" 658 00:58:51,348 --> 00:58:57,396 He replied: "I start filming in about two weeks. "You have no choice." 659 00:58:57,479 --> 00:59:01,483 He was in a position to take a decisive position. Reasonable, but strong. 660 00:59:01,650 --> 00:59:07,072 He said, "Read the script. The band will play for only eight seconds." Nobody is going to notice. 661 00:59:07,155 --> 00:59:12,160 "If you put School's Out in the closing credits "They'll think it was that one." 662 00:59:19,167 --> 00:59:22,295 Stay here, hang out with us. 663 00:59:22,379 --> 00:59:26,883 Good vibes, yes, we can stay and hang out with you. 664 00:59:26,967 --> 00:59:30,053 With Alice Cooper... 665 00:59:31,138 --> 00:59:34,474 We are not worthy, we are not worthy. 666 00:59:34,558 --> 00:59:40,605 Since that day, at every airport we pass, We hear "I am not worthy" hundreds of times 667 00:59:40,689 --> 00:59:44,860 The red carpet was filled with some of the biggest names in the film industry. 668 00:59:44,943 --> 00:59:48,030 It's a Dior dress. Thanks for asking. 669 00:59:48,113 --> 00:59:51,324 I met Sharon Stone at the Cannes Film Festival. 670 00:59:51,408 --> 00:59:54,453 "Total Recall" came out, and I was there with - 671 00:59:54,536 --> 00:59:58,206 -Michael Douglas, Mick Jagger and Roman Polanski. 672 00:59:58,290 --> 01:00:02,419 The party was at the home Napoleon built for Josephine - 673 01:00:02,502 --> 01:00:07,049 - And that it was surrounded by water. It was absolutely wonderful. 674 01:00:07,132 --> 01:00:12,054 - Sharon entered the room. - She was incredibly beautiful. 675 01:00:12,137 --> 01:00:18,352 - She came in and introduced herself to Michael and me. - He said "Oh, what a beautiful house." 676 01:00:18,435 --> 01:00:23,023 - "Thank you," Shep responded. - "I can show you around." 677 01:00:23,106 --> 01:00:28,695 I didn't say it was mine, but I hinted at it. 678 01:00:28,779 --> 01:00:33,116 "Do you want me to show you around?" "Thank you. I would love to." 679 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,536 And I didn't see them again that day. 680 01:00:36,620 --> 01:00:44,127 Our little ballet opened. We were together for a few years. 681 01:00:45,545 --> 01:00:49,216 Sharon, like other women, attracted me first for its beauty- 682 01:00:49,299 --> 01:00:54,346 - But there is great depth in it, it is a spiritual person. 683 01:00:54,429 --> 01:00:57,891 Sharon asked me: I would like to meet the Dalai Lama. 684 01:00:57,974 --> 01:01:02,312 His holiness spoke about compassion, to love and serve others. 685 01:01:02,396 --> 01:01:06,775 It was very moving. We were allowed to go to the dressing rooms. 686 01:01:06,858 --> 01:01:14,282 When he walks in I feel like he's taken the biggest shower of my life. A return to innocence. 687 01:01:14,366 --> 01:01:20,247 When I found out I was going to Hawaii, He called his representatives 688 01:01:20,330 --> 01:01:24,668 As through Mr. Verg� he was now involved in the kitchen 689 01:01:24,751 --> 01:01:30,090 - I explained to him that I would like cook for the Dalai Lama. 690 01:01:30,173 --> 01:01:34,886 It was the beginning of Shep's incorporation in the Tibetan world. 691 01:01:34,970 --> 01:01:39,933 I researched Tibetan food to use some yak. 692 01:01:40,017 --> 01:01:45,063 I got me some yak butter and my kitchen stunk for weeks. 693 01:01:45,147 --> 01:01:50,068 Tibetans love tea with yak butter. Especially the older ones. 694 01:01:50,152 --> 01:01:53,447 They said I don't do it They must wait for a meeting. 695 01:01:53,530 --> 01:01:58,869 But at five o'clock in the morning I had to make breakfast for him. 696 01:01:58,952 --> 01:02:03,957 I was so surprised, I didn't think we were going to meet. 697 01:02:04,041 --> 01:02:10,756 I went to his apartment, and he was brushing his teeth. 698 01:02:10,839 --> 01:02:16,887 "Yak you?" "Yes," he replied proudly. 699 01:02:16,970 --> 01:02:20,557 "That's why I left Tibet." 700 01:02:23,018 --> 01:02:26,271 I traveled to New York, and I traveled with him 701 01:02:26,355 --> 01:02:31,693 I wanted to be useful to you. I had a good friend, who was the manager of "The Mark" hotel. 702 01:02:31,777 --> 01:02:35,947 I let his holiness stay there for free. 703 01:02:36,031 --> 01:02:41,620 I went from being a cook to having a seat on the Board of Directors of the Tibet Fund. 704 01:02:41,703 --> 01:02:47,209 I bought the bed in which the Dalai Lama I slept at my friend's hotel in New York. 705 01:02:47,292 --> 01:02:50,295 It's the one I use in Hawaii. He left this with his rice. 706 01:02:50,379 --> 01:02:54,758 "Make the poor rich, and happy to those who are sad... 707 01:02:54,841 --> 01:02:59,137 ...And to the desperate find hope." 708 01:02:59,221 --> 01:03:03,809 "Let the fearful stop being afraid, and the weak find strength..." 709 01:03:03,892 --> 01:03:09,272 "...And may their hearts unite in friendship. "Rice of His Holiness. 710 01:03:10,565 --> 01:03:17,322 Without sounding too arrogant, I think there is good karma. 711 01:03:17,989 --> 01:03:20,993 Teddy and I used to discuss karma. 712 01:03:21,076 --> 01:03:27,332 Our last conversation was in London, where he refused to act, with the theater sold. 713 01:03:27,416 --> 01:03:30,836 I tried to explain to him about karma. 714 01:03:30,919 --> 01:03:34,006 "Everything is already sold, Teddy." 715 01:03:34,089 --> 01:03:39,720 "They are people who work, and they have organized his life around this night." 716 01:03:39,803 --> 01:03:47,477 "They're sitting there now. You will regret it if you don't. A lot. Very soon" 717 01:03:47,561 --> 01:03:51,023 But he refused. And the following week... 718 01:03:51,106 --> 01:03:54,484 Teddy Pendergrass was seriously injured today 719 01:03:54,568 --> 01:03:59,281 -When his car collided with a couple of Trees in Philadelphia. 720 01:03:59,364 --> 01:04:05,412 The 31-year-old artist was trapped for 45 minutes before firefighters arrived. 721 01:04:05,495 --> 01:04:08,582 The doctor immediately told me - 722 01:04:08,665 --> 01:04:13,920 - I have to tell you that he will not be able to walk again. 723 01:04:14,004 --> 01:04:20,093 We walked in and he was in a frame, which rotated every ten minutes. 724 01:04:20,177 --> 01:04:25,515 I could only blink. Once for "yes" and twice for "no." 725 01:04:28,101 --> 01:04:31,646 It wasn't my favorite moment. 726 01:04:34,232 --> 01:04:38,028 It wasn't a good time. 727 01:04:38,111 --> 01:04:45,243 I think it was the beginning of the end. I stopped enjoying my work. 728 01:04:45,327 --> 01:04:51,708 It was a hard moment. I loved him and still do. 729 01:04:56,797 --> 01:05:01,259 I decided not to let anyone see Teddy. 730 01:05:01,343 --> 01:05:06,306 Everyone wanted one interview or a photo. 731 01:05:06,390 --> 01:05:12,688 If anything were to be done, it would be to tell the story he wanted to tell... 732 01:05:12,771 --> 01:05:17,442 I wasn't going to be a victim. My job was to save every ammunition - 733 01:05:17,526 --> 01:05:22,572 - To revive his career. And then Live Aid was announced. 734 01:05:22,656 --> 01:05:26,994 It is one of the largest concerts in the world in front of the largest TV audience 735 01:05:27,077 --> 01:05:30,872 one of the concerts It was going to be done in Philadelphia. 736 01:05:30,956 --> 01:05:34,793 - And no one knew what had happened to him. They hadn't seen him in three years 737 01:05:34,876 --> 01:05:39,464 I asked Ashford and Simpson, if they would put it on Live Aid. 738 01:05:39,548 --> 01:05:45,262 Teddy was afraid to sing in front of people, but finally agreed. 739 01:05:45,345 --> 01:05:49,599 When we get to the ramp leading to the stage, said: 740 01:05:49,683 --> 01:05:54,021 "I can't, Shep. I'm too scared." 741 01:05:54,104 --> 01:05:58,525 I told him: "I love you, But I'm going to take you up there." 742 01:05:58,608 --> 01:06:03,113 You don't have to sing, do what you want up there, but go up." 743 01:06:03,196 --> 01:06:07,409 Someone we love dearly... 744 01:06:07,492 --> 01:06:13,749 ...will make its first appearance for a long time: Teddy Pendergrass! 745 01:06:41,818 --> 01:06:48,033 I was nervous that it wouldn't finish. the song, but it was fantastic. 746 01:06:48,116 --> 01:06:52,913 There was no one with dry eyes. It was beautiful. 747 01:07:08,470 --> 01:07:11,598 When you are someone's manager, it never ends. 748 01:07:11,682 --> 01:07:15,477 If the album is a success, What are you going to do the next day? 749 01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:22,693 Since I learned to cook, I appreciate that When the food is finished, the food is finished. 750 01:07:24,611 --> 01:07:27,614 After traveling with him Mr. Verg� for almost a decade 751 01:07:27,698 --> 01:07:31,868 - then I asked myself if I could be your tour manager. 752 01:07:31,952 --> 01:07:34,913 He toured, like a rock star. 753 01:07:34,997 --> 01:07:39,960 His fans came, ate and then they got his autograph, they bought his book 754 01:07:40,043 --> 01:07:45,048 We went to an event that cost $2,500 per person. and I saw that he was not paid 755 01:07:45,132 --> 01:07:48,635 They didn't let me eat in the restaurant anymore. 756 01:07:48,719 --> 01:07:52,514 I told him "Mr. Verg, this is not fair, allow me help you." 757 01:07:52,597 --> 01:07:59,312 A little later, he told Wolfgang Puck and he told me that all chefs were treated like that. 758 01:07:59,396 --> 01:08:02,941 Three days later Wolfgang invited me to lunch in "Spago" 759 01:08:03,025 --> 01:08:08,322 - And when he entered, sitting there, 35 of the best chefs in the world. 760 01:08:08,405 --> 01:08:14,328 They wanted help."They don't pay us either, they treat us like shit" 761 01:08:14,411 --> 01:08:17,706 I started "Alive Culinary Resources". 762 01:08:17,789 --> 01:08:24,463 I got over myself. His thing is to make music, make movies... We don't need it here. 763 01:08:24,546 --> 01:08:27,924 In economic terms, it was not prudent. 764 01:08:28,008 --> 01:08:33,096 Artists he represented, such as Luther Vandross, they earn more in a single night 765 01:08:33,180 --> 01:08:38,518 - Than any chef in a year. They only make money cooking in a building 766 01:08:38,602 --> 01:08:43,899 - And no one knew how to make profitable and expand their talents. 767 01:08:43,982 --> 01:08:50,155 I thought: All stores are promoted by celebrities, except supermarkets. 768 01:08:50,238 --> 01:08:53,742 In the sports store there were Michael Jordan sneakers. 769 01:08:53,825 --> 01:08:57,871 While at the supermarket They used generic, fictitious "chefs." 770 01:08:57,954 --> 01:09:04,336 How do you make people see the chef as a celebrity? TV. 771 01:09:04,419 --> 01:09:09,591 We will roast this chicken, today on "The French Chef." 772 01:09:09,675 --> 01:09:14,721 At first there was only Julia Child on PBS. There was no other. 773 01:09:14,805 --> 01:09:20,227 But there was a man from CNN who was trying to throw to watch a cooking channel. 774 01:09:20,310 --> 01:09:25,649 I watched the food channel as a key to success. 775 01:09:25,732 --> 01:09:29,528 I told him: I can get you all the chefs, free 776 01:09:29,611 --> 01:09:34,282 - And he made his eyes huge, Well, television salaries are crazy. 777 01:09:34,366 --> 01:09:39,287 - Welcome to TV Food Network. - Emeril was the first to sign for a show. 778 01:09:39,371 --> 01:09:45,043 We have our spices, our shrimp and our vegetables. 779 01:09:45,127 --> 01:09:51,383 We change the television program for the right to have our own advertising. 780 01:09:51,466 --> 01:09:54,594 Emeril and I talked about what made his kitchen unique. 781 01:09:54,678 --> 01:09:57,431 It was... BAM, that way! 782 01:09:57,514 --> 01:10:01,351 He said people asked him about "Bam" and the spices. 783 01:10:01,435 --> 01:10:05,439 Bam, just like that! We put a couple of these on and Bam! not like that anymore! 784 01:10:05,522 --> 01:10:09,943 - And now some of these and Bam! not like that anymore! - And that's how it started with Emeril spices. 785 01:10:10,027 --> 01:10:16,199 - Spice up your roast chicken with my chicken mix. - Sales went through the roof. 786 01:10:16,283 --> 01:10:23,040 Today, they are the most popular spices of the market. This is because of Shep's vision. 787 01:10:23,123 --> 01:10:27,085 It was a way to put their products in stores 788 01:10:27,169 --> 01:10:30,672 - And now, people could achieve the same Emeril flavor. 789 01:10:30,756 --> 01:10:37,012 - That gave the idea to other chefs, like Mario Batali. - Saltimbocca...Batali style. 790 01:10:37,095 --> 01:10:43,810 And he extended it to sauce, pasta and kitchen utensils. A huge business. 791 01:10:43,894 --> 01:10:50,275 I wouldn't have a job if it weren't for Emeril. He paved the way for all famous chefs. 792 01:10:50,359 --> 01:10:55,572 I did it for free, so I wanted to have success and retire. It was a lot of work. 793 01:10:55,656 --> 01:11:00,202 I learned that I had created a new category: The Celebrity Chefs. 794 01:11:00,285 --> 01:11:03,538 So I chose to retire. 795 01:11:03,622 --> 01:11:07,334 I felt like I had used my life to live the lives of others 796 01:11:07,417 --> 01:11:12,756 - And I wanted to see what MY life was like. I could only do it by withdrawing. 797 01:11:12,839 --> 01:11:16,635 I called my clients and most were very understanding. 798 01:11:16,718 --> 01:11:21,181 But Luther was very hurt and deleted me of his autobiography. 799 01:11:21,264 --> 01:11:26,520 When Shep hired me, I was half retired. 800 01:11:26,603 --> 01:11:31,775 Sometimes I feel like we change roles: He takes care of me instead of me of him. 801 01:11:31,858 --> 01:11:38,865 I was still Alice's manager, more so A client was like a part of my body. 802 01:11:40,534 --> 01:11:47,958 One day a friend called me and told me that he had a healthy food chef to be your manager. 803 01:11:48,041 --> 01:11:53,463 I explained to him that I no longer did it and I didn't like that food 804 01:11:53,547 --> 01:12:00,762 - But I told him we could get together. The doorbell rang, and Renée entered, a beautiful sight. 805 01:12:00,846 --> 01:12:05,767 It was love at first sight. I had everything I wanted. 806 01:12:05,851 --> 01:12:11,023 I knew it was serious, when he told me "She makes this 'healthy food'"... 807 01:12:11,106 --> 01:12:17,654 He said he loved it, but I know he knows Damn, I grew up on a farm and I know it. 808 01:12:19,072 --> 01:12:25,787 I woke up thinking about her, But it has never been easy for me to say what I feel. 809 01:12:25,871 --> 01:12:29,291 Yes, it was easy for me to offer him to stay in my guest house. 810 01:12:29,374 --> 01:12:35,255 The next five nights we cooked, We walked on the beach, and we met. 811 01:12:35,339 --> 01:12:38,717 On the fifth night the relationship became more intimate - 812 01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:42,637 - On the sixth day she moved to live here. 813 01:12:44,765 --> 01:12:49,728 Two years later we got married in a beautiful ceremony in Maui. 814 01:12:49,811 --> 01:12:54,399 We had invited 65 friends and family members. 815 01:12:55,567 --> 01:13:02,699 Michael Douglas said in his speech that many have problems with a woman 30 years younger. 816 01:13:02,783 --> 01:13:08,538 "I gave Shep some advice: If she dies, she dies." 817 01:13:11,541 --> 01:13:17,422 We went on our honeymoon to Fiji, an island that only receives one guest at a time. 818 01:13:17,506 --> 01:13:22,594 When we arrived they told us that there was another couple on the island, but they wouldn't bother. 819 01:13:22,678 --> 01:13:27,516 Renee's computer wasn't working, so I went to ask for help at the reception. 820 01:13:27,599 --> 01:13:30,811 Five minutes later, they knocked on the door. 821 01:13:30,894 --> 01:13:37,442 It was Steve Jobs, the other guest. Steve Jobs fixed his equipment. 822 01:13:37,526 --> 01:13:42,030 Renée ended up cooking for him for the next five days. 823 01:13:42,114 --> 01:13:45,325 It was one of the magical moments of my life. 824 01:13:45,993 --> 01:13:49,579 When we came back, I could no longer avoid being his manager. 825 01:13:49,663 --> 01:13:53,625 She managed to publish a book, and helped her get a TV show. 826 01:13:53,709 --> 01:13:58,672 I couldn't help it, It was the only thing he knew how to do. 827 01:13:58,755 --> 01:14:03,343 I told Renee that I wanted to have children. 828 01:14:03,427 --> 01:14:09,558 We worked on it, but she she didn't get pregnant. It just didn't work. 829 01:14:09,641 --> 01:14:13,020 Some can manage without children- 830 01:14:13,103 --> 01:14:20,152 - But there are others who, in that case, we are missing something. Shep is one of them. 831 01:14:20,235 --> 01:14:23,488 I told him we should go to the doctor 832 01:14:23,572 --> 01:14:26,867 - But Renée thought which should occur naturally. 833 01:14:26,950 --> 01:14:30,829 I respected his opinion, but I didn't agree with her 834 01:14:30,912 --> 01:14:37,336 After that we grew apart, and we ended up getting divorced. 835 01:14:54,603 --> 01:14:58,690 I have no idea who I will leave this to you when I die. 836 01:14:58,774 --> 01:15:02,235 I don't know. 837 01:15:02,319 --> 01:15:05,530 I haven't taken care of that yet. 838 01:15:07,866 --> 01:15:15,040 On January 13, 2012 Shep came back after playing golf. 839 01:15:15,624 --> 01:15:22,422 I asked him how he felt. He said his stomach hurt, it was bloated. 840 01:15:22,506 --> 01:15:29,304 He usually plays nine holes, so it was not surprising that he left. 841 01:15:29,388 --> 01:15:34,267 - He left us and went home. -He went outside. 842 01:15:34,351 --> 01:15:38,313 I asked him if he wanted me to stay with him, but he told me to go home. 843 01:15:38,397 --> 01:15:42,609 I was a little worried. 844 01:15:42,693 --> 01:15:48,198 He sent me a message. "Can you come?" I went and saw that he was suffering a lot. 845 01:15:48,281 --> 01:15:51,827 I thought: I have to take him to the hospital. 846 01:15:51,910 --> 01:15:56,707 We got to the emergency room, and they put him Enough drugs to put an elephant to sleep. 847 01:15:56,790 --> 01:16:02,129 The doctor said it was like a heart attack in the small intestine. 848 01:16:02,212 --> 01:16:07,092 If they didn't operate, Shep would die. 849 01:16:07,175 --> 01:16:14,141 If he had surgery, he would have only a 20% chance of survival. 850 01:16:17,269 --> 01:16:22,107 He was isolated for four days. Nobody knew what happened. 851 01:16:22,190 --> 01:16:29,573 My phone rings constantly. Everyone wanted to know how he was. 852 01:16:29,656 --> 01:16:32,534 Not many survive an operation like that. 853 01:16:32,617 --> 01:16:36,288 I had finally achieved a good relationship with this man. 854 01:16:36,371 --> 01:16:43,045 And the possibility of him not returning was definitely something I would have to get used to. 855 01:16:43,128 --> 01:16:48,091 But I wanted to do it, I wanted him to be in my life. 856 01:16:50,594 --> 01:16:53,555 We're not going to lose someone like him. 857 01:16:55,557 --> 01:17:00,020 I wouldn't want to lose a guy like him. 858 01:17:28,715 --> 01:17:32,803 We didn't know what would happen, if we would lose it or not. 859 01:17:32,886 --> 01:17:36,515 - After the surgery, I was accompanying him next to the bed 860 01:17:36,598 --> 01:17:40,769 - When he opened his eyes, in his drowsiness, I was looking for someone else 861 01:17:40,852 --> 01:17:45,232 It was really... 862 01:17:50,612 --> 01:17:54,032 I felt very sorry for him, because the only one who was there it was me 863 01:17:54,116 --> 01:17:58,745 - Your paid assistant. 864 01:17:58,829 --> 01:18:03,291 One hopes that by going through such an experience the person who is next to you is 865 01:18:03,375 --> 01:18:08,797 ...Your life partner. But it was me. 866 01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:12,926 He must have felt so alone. 867 01:18:21,810 --> 01:18:24,813 His recovery was miraculous. 868 01:18:24,896 --> 01:18:31,987 Took the time to delve into yourself and heal yourself. 869 01:18:35,324 --> 01:18:38,327 I've spent my whole life making famous to the people. 870 01:18:38,410 --> 01:18:43,874 But I have never seen anything healthy in fame. 871 01:18:43,957 --> 01:18:49,421 It's hard to survive it and has no value in itself. 872 01:18:51,340 --> 01:18:55,594 I love what I did, I wouldn't change what I have done in my life - 873 01:18:55,677 --> 01:19:02,100 - But I should have had less artists and achieved greater intimacy. 874 01:19:02,184 --> 01:19:06,438 I was lucky to find a family late in my life 875 01:19:06,521 --> 01:19:10,025 - But he didn't develop a family. 876 01:19:10,108 --> 01:19:16,740 I was part of Alice's family life, but I didn't have my own, I didn't have time. 877 01:19:22,621 --> 01:19:28,126 I'll say it once, I don't think it's a coincidence: First it was the healthy food and then his ass exploded. 878 01:19:29,044 --> 01:19:34,091 -Shep's friends are his real family. -He is more than a friend, he is like a brother. 879 01:19:34,174 --> 01:19:37,427 I told Shep - 880 01:19:37,511 --> 01:19:42,265 - Things I haven't told anyone. Not even my wife. 881 01:19:42,683 --> 01:19:49,022 I would like to give you a big kiss on the mouth, He's a great guy 882 01:19:53,694 --> 01:19:57,531 His laugh is legendary, like getting stuck 883 01:19:57,614 --> 01:20:00,909 When he laughs he barks like a seal. 884 01:20:09,876 --> 01:20:13,755 Shep is the nicest person I have ever met. 885 01:20:13,839 --> 01:20:17,843 I have never heard him say something unkind about anyone. 886 01:20:17,926 --> 01:20:22,764 But he is not... What is the word? Bored. 887 01:20:22,973 --> 01:20:27,436 -He loves to make people happy. -He taught me to be grateful. 888 01:20:27,519 --> 01:20:33,859 And there is no need to complain so much, when in reality you're damn lucky. 889 01:20:37,863 --> 01:20:42,326 I've always wanted a baby. But I haven't given up. 890 01:20:42,409 --> 01:20:45,787 Maybe there's still a little bit left inside me. 891 01:20:46,305 --> 01:20:52,895 Please rate this subtitle in %url% Help others choose the best one