1 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,320 DRUM BEATS 2 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,840 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,560 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,120 5 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,840 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,480 7 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,000 8 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,800 9 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:36,760 SHE SIGHS 10 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,440 We've been very purposefully manipulated, 11 00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:44,880 very intentionally and purposefully manipulated for thousands of years. 12 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,520 This isn't something new. 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:51,160 The question is - who's keeping us down? 14 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,200 Q helped us figure that out a little bit. 15 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,400 Q said, "Start here and go wherever it leads you." 16 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,600 What if everything that we've been taught is wrong? 17 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,920 What we're living right now is going to be known 18 00:01:04,960 --> 00:01:07,880 for the rest of our history as the time of awakening. 19 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,640 What have you awakened to? 20 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,760 It's about the great awakening. 21 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,840 INDISTINCT SHOUTING SIRENS WAIL 22 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,040 We live in a time where, for some, truth no longer exists. 23 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,120 We are fighting evil! 24 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:29,920 CROWD SHOUTS IN AGREEMENT 25 00:01:29,960 --> 00:01:31,600 We are fighting cult members! 26 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,560 Conspiracy theories, fake news, claims of rigged elections, 27 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,880 and unmitigated use of social media 28 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,680 mean no-one has any idea what to believe any more. 29 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:47,440 How they persuaded billions around the world 30 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,360 to believe in their plan. 31 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,480 You were trying to... 32 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,600 In every corner of the world, people are protesting. 33 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,040 They've attacked US democracy, 34 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,600 they've battled on the streets of Britain, 35 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,320 they're fighting back - but what exactly are they fighting? 36 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,040 You're inciting violence. 37 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,240 Good lad, good lad. 38 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:11,880 I'm about to enter a world 39 00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:15,280 where I, as the mainstream media, am the enemy 40 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,480 and where the people I meet believe I'm an agent of dark forces 41 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,840 who run the world and abuse children. 42 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,680 You're liars, you are. 43 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,640 My mission is to unmask the figures 44 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,200 taking conspiracy to the heart of our political system 45 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,400 and to meet the digital soldiers 46 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,160 fighting for a supposed government insider 47 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,120 called Q. 48 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,640 I'm in Elyria, Ohio, 49 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,320 on my way to meet two of Q's most ardent followers 50 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,040 who plan to take their country back. 51 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,000 Welcome to the digital soldiers house! 52 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,000 Ha-ha-ha. 53 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,560 Dave Roberts and Amanda Quimper. 54 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,040 You're filming us for your documentary too? 55 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,200 I'm filming you because you're mainstream media. 56 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,480 I got to make sure I get you. 57 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,040 I do understand, to a degree. 58 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,880 You know, I think people don't really trust the media these days. 59 00:03:15,920 --> 00:03:19,640 That's why we're reluctant to talk to you guys sometimes. 60 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,480 How important is Q to what you're doing? 61 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,960 I think he laid the groundwork. 62 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,920 He made the exposures. 63 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,000 He opened the eyes of the people. 64 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:36,880 Whoever Q is believes in God and trying to fight 65 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,480 so that God does win in the end. 66 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:44,200 And all these paedophilias and all these trafficking rings 67 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,200 and all this structure in the government, all this evilness, 68 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:53,200 that's something that the cabal has worked for centuries 69 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,960 to keep us all asleep, 70 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,920 and they've done a very successful job of it. 71 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,920 What is the cabal? How would you describe it? 72 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:05,880 The cabal, in my opinion, is the organised elitists, 73 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,320 the 1% of the 1%, 74 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:14,320 which includes the Vatican and the monarchies. 75 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,760 People today are just now beginning to wake up. 76 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:23,160 I mean, they're just now beginning to realise something's wrong 77 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,040 and Q instigated that. 78 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,000 We would never be anywhere near where we are today 79 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,480 if it wasn't for Q. 80 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,760 So, some of what I'm about to tell you may be hard to believe, 81 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,720 but it's changed the course of politics around the world. 82 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,080 In October 2017, 83 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:50,120 a figure called Q Clearance Patriot appeared on the website 4Chan. 84 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,760 They claimed to be a government insider. 85 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,720 Q started spreading wild conspiracies - 86 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,880 satanic paedophiles ruled the world, 87 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,160 Trump was the saviour against the evil cabal - 88 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:01,920 and people believed it. 89 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,800 With every share, it became more mainstream. 90 00:05:04,840 --> 00:05:07,760 It soon became the conspiracy of everything. 91 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,160 Over the next four years, it spread to millions across the globe. 92 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,360 Followers shared, kidnapped, killed, shared some more, 93 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,200 and attacked the US Capitol, 94 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,280 all in the name of Q. 95 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,680 But then none of it came true. 96 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,640 The cabal was never exposed, 97 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,760 Trump lost the 2020 election 98 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,440 and Q stopped posting forever on December 8, 2020. 99 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,080 Millions of manipulated and radicalised people 100 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,440 around the world were left without a leader, 101 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,120 so who's filling that void now? 102 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,880 PHONE LINE RINGS OUT 103 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,320 Hello? Hey, is that Pastor Mark? 104 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,760 Who's speaking? It's Benjamin Zand. 105 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,160 Oh, yes, yes. How are you doing? I'm good, how are you? 106 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,680 Q's followers are still meeting up at events across the US, 107 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,000 with or without Trump in the White House. 108 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,280 Mainstream journalists are usually banned 109 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,480 and even forcibly removed from these events 110 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:03,880 but I'd managed to get in. 111 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,920 I'll text you the flights, 17th and the 18th, 112 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,920 and I'll make sure you get some credentials, 113 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,680 so you've got to come out for that, OK? 114 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,720 Pastor Mark Burns was a speaker at an event in California 115 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,240 and he was keen for me to cover his upcoming political campaign. 116 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:21,320 Hello. 117 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,240 Right, we've actually made it in officially. 118 00:06:26,280 --> 00:06:28,360 How are y'all doing? Good, sir, how are you? 119 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,000 Good. Thank y'all so much. 120 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,960 Hey, sir, how are you? God bless you. 121 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,280 Blessings to you, man. Thank you so much. 122 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:39,000 I love that. Thank you. God bless y'all. How you doing? Hi. 123 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,520 Hello, how are y'all doing? 124 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:43,200 We don't. 125 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:46,760 God bless y'all. 126 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,320 This was a real who's who in the world of alternate truths, 127 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,000 figures like discredited anti-vaccine doctor Andrew Wakefield 128 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:55,400 were in attendance. 129 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,760 You are never going to have another fair election 130 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,720 if we don't expose and fight what happened in 2020. 131 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,360 Roger Stone. 132 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,520 I knew you had to be close. 133 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,440 I've got to figure out what I'm going to say. 134 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,360 I'm about to walk around here, man. All right. 135 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:11,920 Love you, man. All right, thanks. 136 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,440 You must fight. The way to fight the information... 137 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,000 Thousands of people had made the trip to see their heroes 138 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,600 and to uncover the next secret 139 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,080 the mainstream media didn't want them to know. 140 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:28,360 How did you find yourself in the world of Q, selling Q tops? 141 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,840 Well, I got into Q through my family. 142 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,240 My dad and my brother followed Q, um, but... 143 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:39,040 My brother is into a lot of spirituality stuff, 144 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,960 you know, and so is Q. 145 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,480 There was a real sense of community here. 146 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,520 Amidst the claims of a cabal, a planned pandemic 147 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,400 and Trump being the true president, 148 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,920 there was a home for people to be heard and to be their real selves. 149 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,760 There was also a real feeling of anger. 150 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,080 APPLAUSE 151 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:02,960 This is a full-blown world war that we are in 152 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,160 right at this very moment, ladies and gentlemen. 153 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:06,800 This is America, 154 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,440 this is an American thing, so fight with me. 155 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,040 CHEERING 156 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,640 We're in a time of warfare. 157 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,000 This is no longer a conspiracy theory, 158 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:16,600 it's a conspiracy. 159 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:17,880 CHEERING 160 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,520 One of the biggest names at these events is this guy 161 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,080 Michael Flynn. 162 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,720 He's a former three-star general 163 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,600 and was a national-security adviser to Donald Trump. 164 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,080 Q itself regularly defended Flynn 165 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,760 so many followers see him as a potential leader. 166 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,800 CHANTING: Fight like Flynn! Fight like Flynn! Fight like Flynn! 167 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,080 We are going to take this country back. 168 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,840 CHEERING 169 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,760 I'm driving to meet a man called Dustin Nemos. 170 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,800 Dustin is, like, one of the earliest adopters of Q. 171 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,240 He's quite a big name in the Q-verse. 172 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,960 He even literally wrote the book on Q. 173 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:11,640 Hello. 174 00:09:11,680 --> 00:09:14,160 Are we thinking here? Um... 175 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,000 I was just looking around. I don't know what works for you guys. 176 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,720 This is beautiful. Ah, yeah, that's interesting, isn't it? 177 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,400 Disciples like Dustin made their money and fame 178 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,160 interpreting the religion of Q. 179 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,600 But Q's disappearance created a power vacuum, 180 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,840 so what happens now? 181 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,680 Are you still a follower of Q? 182 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,120 You know, half the world is following it so... 183 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,640 Forbes had it quoted, and this is an old number, 184 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:40,200 that over 56% of the Republican party 185 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,920 had, in some level, agreement with Q. 186 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,560 Do you believe in the idea 187 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,360 that there is a satanic cabal raping kids? 188 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,160 I think that there are powerful people 189 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,280 who openly identify with Satanism. 190 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,120 I don't think that they get together in the White House every Tuesday 191 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:59,200 and, like, order, you know, $20,000 worth of pizza to be flown in 2am... 192 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,280 Wait, Obama did that, but, you know, most of the time they don't do that. 193 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:08,000 When Dustin mentions pizza here, he actually means children. 194 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,640 It's a well-known code word 195 00:10:09,680 --> 00:10:12,560 from the debunked Pizzagate conspiracy of 2016 196 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,920 that alleged top Democrats were paedophiles. 197 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,280 I believe Obama is a child molester. You think he abuses kids? 198 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:20,840 I believe that he does. 199 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,560 I don't believe those are even his kids. 200 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,400 I mean, his wife is not a woman. 201 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:25,760 You think his wife's a man? 202 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,200 Anybody got any shots of Michelle Obama pregnant? 203 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,880 Love to see it. You also believe that she's a man? 204 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,760 It's not about belief, I do facts. 205 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,880 The reality of the world is much different 206 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,440 than you've been told on fake news. 207 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,560 You think the reality of the world is that Michelle Obama has a penis 208 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,760 and Barack Obama is abusing kids in the White House? 209 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,960 That is more believable than Joe Biden won the 2020 election. 210 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:51,960 You find it not odd that we don't have shots of the first family? 211 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,160 I do believe that, 212 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,120 based on multiple videos... So why spread it? 213 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:56,360 But you need, like, evidence 214 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,360 that's kind of substantive beyond a video. 215 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,560 I believe we can make a very good case, 216 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,680 including people who are biological experts 217 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,200 who can weigh the Adam's apple, 218 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:05,920 measure the shoulders and all of that, 219 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,120 that Michelle Obama is a man. A transgender woman? 220 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,080 His wife is better hung than I am. 221 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,520 And I've seen it on YouTube, multiple videos. 222 00:11:12,560 --> 00:11:15,000 Cos that's definitely on the wilder side. 223 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:16,560 I'll ask one final question. 224 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,280 The future of Q is now the influencers like yourself? 225 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,400 We're gonna take the country back. 226 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,040 We're getting people elected into office. 227 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,240 The fake news - or, forgive me, the media - are... 228 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,920 You know, they're already writing a lot of articles about that, 229 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,360 nervous about the QAnon people running for office. 230 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,080 Um, many of them are barely connected. 231 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,040 I can't wait till I run for Congress 232 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,560 cos they're really gonna lombast me. 233 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:37,600 Are you gonna run? 234 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,880 Probably. Yeah, probably. When d'you think that'll be? 235 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,360 Er, next couple of months, maybe. 236 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,080 Oh, right, for the midterms next year? 237 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,360 Yeah, 2022. 238 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,600 Dustin's views about Michelle Obama 239 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,000 are completely ridiculous and untrue, 240 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,920 but it's a clear example of how in the world of Q 241 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,880 it's more important to pick a side 242 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:55,960 than to seek truth. 243 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,160 The question I had, though, 244 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,160 was whether Dustin could really make it in the world of politics. 245 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,320 Another alleged Q supporter, 246 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:05,840 Marjorie Taylor Greene, 247 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,960 had done exactly that in 2020. 248 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,400 America's the greatest country in the world. 249 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,760 She was elected to Congress in Georgia 250 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,480 and is one of Conservative America's 251 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:15,640 most prominent figures. 252 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,080 Q is a patriot. 253 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:19,600 We know that for sure. 254 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,760 But we do not know who Q is. 255 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,040 She's since distanced herself from the Q movement. 256 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,040 But all this made me think of someone I'd seen in California 257 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:30,080 with Pastor Mark. 258 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:31,360 Saw your parents out there. 259 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,800 I knew you had to be close. PASTOR MARK CHUCKLES 260 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,360 That right there is Roger Stone, 261 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,760 one of the most important political figures in the US 262 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,160 over the last 30 years. 263 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,320 This is a guy who helped get presidents - 264 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,800 from Richard Nixon to Donald Trump - in office. 265 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,360 He's often called the kingmaker of Republican presidents. 266 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:52,960 Here he is with Donald Trump, 267 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,840 who pardoned him in 2020 268 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,960 after Stone was convicted of obstructing an investigation 269 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,560 that would have harmed the President. 270 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,880 And now here he was at a conference 271 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,440 attended by thousands of Q supporters. 272 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,880 Was this a clear sign of the next stage of the Q movement - 273 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,720 cementing itself at the top of global politics? 274 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:12,760 Ladies and gentlemen, 275 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,560 I am living proof that God can do anything. 276 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,640 APPLAUSE WHOOPING 277 00:13:18,680 --> 00:13:19,680 Yes, Ma'am? 278 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,120 We need a leader right now. 279 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:23,640 It should be Michael Flynn. 280 00:13:23,680 --> 00:13:25,360 Some of you will have an opportunity 281 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,560 to see General Flynn when he comes to speak. 282 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,160 You should tell him exactly what Caroline said. 283 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,160 I think he is a man of destiny, 284 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,160 I think he is a man of courage. 285 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,720 So I do think that he is potentially the leader for this movement. 286 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,960 Pastor Mark. There you go, hello! How you doing? 287 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,640 VOICEOVER: To try and find out just what Roger's plan is, 288 00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:46,320 I asked Pastor Mark to arrange an interview. 289 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,640 PASTOR MARK: Here's THE one... 290 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:53,280 ..and only Roger...Stone. Stone! CHUCKLING 291 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:54,520 My brother. Aw, man! 292 00:13:54,560 --> 00:13:56,000 Oh, man. Hey, you're losing weight. 293 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,720 Isn't this the dream team right here? 294 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,160 Good to see you, Roger. How are you, my brother? 295 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,360 You're looking good. Wow, to God be the glory. 296 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,920 We're just gonna go and do an interview with Roger Stone. 297 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,520 And right next door to us, where we've parked, 298 00:14:09,560 --> 00:14:13,000 there are two cars with QAnon memorabilia. 299 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,800 This is the unconditional pardon 300 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,280 given to me by President Trump 301 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,560 when he concluded that I did not get a fair trial 302 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,920 and I was indicted on politically motivated charges. Look at this. 303 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:28,920 Is this The Avengers? 304 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,120 You're trying to fight crime for America. THEY LAUGH 305 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:32,160 You've sorted out... 306 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:33,200 Come on, Captain America! 307 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,120 We're gonna do an interview to make sure... Captain America! THEY LAUGH 308 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,760 This is where I rip open my shirt and go... Here you go. THEY LAUGH 309 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,640 I'd like to see your initial reaction to the question of 310 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,880 what are your feelings on QAnon? 311 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,880 CHUCKLING I guess what I would say is 312 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,800 I don't know if it's real, but I sure hope it is. 313 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,000 If that person wakes up and starts watching alternative media 314 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:55,960 and isn't getting all their news from CNN, 315 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,720 if that person gets registered and votes, 316 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,400 then I think we've accomplished something. 317 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,640 I'm pretty sure that there's some truth to some of those things. 318 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,080 Donald Trump should have won the election. Yes. 319 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:07,840 I believe without question 320 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,200 there was some form of tampering that took place. 321 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,560 You could argue that the Q movement 322 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,280 is actually so beneficial to people like yourself, you know? 323 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,440 It's a movement that says Donald Trump is the saviour, 324 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:20,480 it's a movement that... 325 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,960 Michael Flynn is a messiah. Well, what you correctly say... 326 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,000 Here's what I know. 327 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,600 I love the First Amendment. Yeah. 328 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,520 I love people's right to say whatever they think is true 329 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,400 and try to defend their position. Yeah. 330 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,160 We do have a historical record here. 331 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,240 We were told Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, 332 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:36,600 but that was a lie. 333 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,080 So let's not pretend that everything 334 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:40,640 the government tells us is true. 335 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,480 Frankly, we've got a clean house in the Republican party. 336 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,400 Trump has taken us from being the party of the country club 337 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,120 to being the party of working people. 338 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:49,400 If Trump doesn't run again, 339 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,080 I notice that Michael Flynn attends a lot of these events. 340 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,520 Do you think he is a potential candidate for presidency? 341 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,200 I want to make it very clear, I'm for Donald Trump. 342 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,400 So in the event that he does not run, 343 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,240 I would certainly look to General Flynn 344 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,200 as one who might be drafted. 345 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,800 All right, gentlemen, good to see you all. 346 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,080 Can we just get some verbal consent from you? 347 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,400 Er, yes, you can use all that stuff - 348 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:12,880 even though you're obsessed with Q. 349 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,120 THEY LAUGH 350 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,800 These guys are kind of the who's who at events like this 351 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,680 that are attended by a huge amount of QAnon supporters. 352 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,600 Roger Stone is a bit of a hero in these circles. 353 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,800 They're all very good friends with Michael Flynn. 354 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:38,280 The FBI has labelled Q and its supporters a domestic terror threat, 355 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,920 but here was Roger Stone seemingly embracing the movement 356 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,440 and using it for political gain. 357 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,760 CHEERING CAR HORNS BEEP 358 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,880 The more I looked, the more I found 359 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,080 political candidates were making the assessment 360 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,040 that if they wanted to win a seat, 361 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,840 Q's conspiracy and misinformation were the way to do it. 362 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,680 I stand with President Trump. 363 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,400 I stand with Q and the team. 364 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,640 Everything that I've heard of Q... 365 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,400 ..I hope that this is real. 366 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,640 Reporting suggests almost 50 congressional candidates 367 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,000 have embraced Q in their bids for election in 2022. 368 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,880 CHEERING And that doesn't include those running for Senate. 369 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,040 One thing these candidates have in common 370 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,280 is that the vast majority are Republicans, 371 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,920 they're deeply religious and deeply Conservative. 372 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,160 Most are scared of the mainstream media, 373 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,880 but I found one who is eager for me to join her campaign. 374 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,760 My name is Kimberly Lowe. 375 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,920 I'm running for Congress in the fifth congressional district, 376 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,240 which is right here. 377 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,760 We are at war right now. 378 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,680 We have had a planned pandemic 379 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,440 to destroy this country, 380 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,840 to destroy our businesses, 381 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,920 to pull us out of church... 382 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:55,960 ..to depopulate and to steal an American election. 383 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,640 Please support me. 384 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,040 Thank you, guys. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 385 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,040 Kimberly's kids don't go to mainstream school, 386 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,000 as she's worried they'll be indoctrinated. 387 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,040 COW MOOS Come on! 388 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,440 She also questions whether Covid is real. 389 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:17,840 And inevitably, 390 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,520 the topic of the coronavirus vaccine came up between us. 391 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:22,960 I've had two vaccines. 392 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,040 Oh, right! I'm so sorry. KIMBERLY LAUGHS 393 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,480 Do things stick to you like you see on TV? 394 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,200 What, like magnets? Have you tried that? 395 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,400 Shall we try it? If it sticks to me... 396 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,600 OK, so it has to go to your forehead. 397 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:35,640 Is it sticking? 398 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,320 I don't think so, I think you're good. It's not sticking. 399 00:18:38,360 --> 00:18:39,800 LAUGHING: I think you're OK! 400 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,320 Is that...? So what...? 401 00:18:41,360 --> 00:18:43,000 Does that change your opinion on...? 402 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,520 No, not at all. Why? 403 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,720 I would never get that vaccine. 404 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,760 It all comes down to trust, doesn't it? 405 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,160 It comes down to trust in higher bodies 406 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,400 and I think ultimately the issue is that you don't trust the government. 407 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:56,600 Correct. 408 00:18:58,240 --> 00:18:59,840 In her run for Congress, 409 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:03,160 Kimberly believes she has a helping hand from Q itself. 410 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,320 GUNSHOT ECHOES 411 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,600 One day I got a phone call 412 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,120 from Q followers types of individuals 413 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:13,640 and they told me that 414 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,880 I needed to stay on the path I'm on 415 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,840 and that I was being protected and I just had to continue on 416 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,840 because I was going to be part of whatever, you know, 417 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,800 future was to come here in America, 418 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,560 regarding politics, etc. 419 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,920 Trump wanted to stop this trafficking. 420 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,920 He had an entire anti-trafficking team 421 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,680 that he put in the White House. 422 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,920 They're pulling people and children out of tunnels. 423 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,080 I know one woman who was trafficked 424 00:19:42,120 --> 00:19:43,880 who grew up in a tunnel system 425 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:44,960 somewhere in the Midwest. 426 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,400 She says that there's tunnels. 427 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:47,960 Has she provided proof? 428 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,880 I haven't asked for it, so how do I know? Why not? 429 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,840 That's why I'm here. How do I know? 430 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,040 Is there anything that could disprove that for you? 431 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,520 Probably not. 432 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,120 Believing in these... 433 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,280 What some people call conspiracies or alternative truths, 434 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,880 you know, it does have actual consequences. 435 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,520 If you are saying those things without adequate evidence, 436 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,400 there is a responsibility on you. 437 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,440 What is dangerous is media dividing a country. 438 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:15,640 The election was stolen. 439 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,760 I fully believe that. I just can't roll stuff off my mouth. I need to learn it... 440 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,200 But just because you believe it, doesn't make it true. 441 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:23,880 But it doesn't make me dangerous. 442 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:32,040 But the truth is, no matter how hard it was for Kimberly to accept, 443 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,600 the conspiracies of Q 444 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,840 are pushing people further and further to the edge. 445 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,240 Some far enough they're willing to kill. 446 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,520 REPORTER: Sheriff's Deputy say 33-year-old Neely Petrie-Blanchard 447 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,760 shot and killed Christopher Hallett on Sunday. 448 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,360 Q's followers are told 449 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,040 that an elitist cabal are raping children, 450 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,600 rigging elections and depopulating the Earth. 451 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,440 And when you believe all that, 452 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,680 just how far are you willing to go to save the world? 453 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,760 REPORTER: Sheriff's Deputy say 33-year-old Neely Petrie-Blanchard 454 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,120 shot and killed Christopher Hallett on Sunday. 455 00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:16,600 Since the rise of Q, 456 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,520 around 100 people have committed crimes in its name, 457 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,160 ranging from kidnapping to weapon offenses to murder. 458 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,880 WOMAN ON PHONE: Are you in a pretty nice neighbourhood? 459 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:27,960 Yeah. 460 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,840 Well, then maybe you're here. 461 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,160 Hi. Hello, is this the right house? 462 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,120 Yes. This is the right house! Aw, amazing. 463 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,560 Get back, Rosie! And you're dirty on top of it. 464 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:38,800 You need a bath. 465 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,240 She's a cute dog you got. She's a cute dog... 466 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:43,720 Straight legs! 467 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:44,880 Hold! 468 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,400 Neely Petrie-Blanchard was a normal mother from Kentucky, 469 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,880 until she lost custody of her daughter, McKenzie. 470 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,480 From that moment on, 471 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,160 she fell down the rabbit hole. 472 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:56,960 Ever since she lost McKenzie, 473 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,560 she's struggled. 474 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,600 She was on the computer 475 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,320 all day long, 476 00:22:02,360 --> 00:22:04,440 looking at this stuff. It was... 477 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,880 Every day she thought QAnon was...President Trump. 478 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,720 She spent hours a day 479 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,360 trying to figure out who Q actually was. 480 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,680 Was Q, then, this... 481 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,280 ..way to get her kid back? 482 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,200 Mm-hmm. Yes. Was that what it was? Was that her main focus? 483 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,880 Yeah, that was her main focus. She somehow fell into this... 484 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,920 They were all involved in Satanic worshipping... Yeah. 485 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,680 She believed there was a city 486 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,800 under New York city that kept kids. 487 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,000 Through the community of Q, 488 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,520 Neely discovered Christopher Hallett. 489 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,080 He claimed to be a legal expert who knew Trump personally 490 00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:45,920 and promised to reunite her with her child. 491 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,960 For a time, Neely thought Hallett may even have been Q. 492 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,560 NEELY ON LAPTOP: People have been 493 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,560 persecuted in family courts 494 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,200 all over this nation... 495 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,080 ..for a very long time. 496 00:23:02,120 --> 00:23:03,680 "Sleepers everywhere. 497 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,200 "Think coats. 498 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,360 "Wheels in motion. Q." 499 00:23:08,360 --> 00:23:10,280 I mean, does that make sense to you? 500 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:11,320 Like, it doesn't... 501 00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:13,480 It doesn't make sense to me. 502 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,680 Looks like they haven't posted on here since December 8th 2020, 503 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,120 so I guess, erm, 504 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,080 I don't know if they've changed the website 505 00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:22,880 or where they're, you know, posting their stuff now. 506 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,920 Q has not posted since December 8th. 507 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,280 Really? 508 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:28,840 He just disappeared? 509 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,960 It's just disappeared, yeah. It. 510 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,000 Wow. 511 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,240 That's a shock to me. 512 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,080 That's kind of... 513 00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:37,520 SAVANNAH EXHALES I don't know how I feel about that. 514 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,040 Kind of like it was all for nothing, I guess. 515 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,360 Wow. 516 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:46,440 QUIETLY: Sorry. 517 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,320 She put so much 518 00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:51,400 and dedicated so much of her time 519 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,320 to this for so long. 520 00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:56,000 Would it have been easier if the whole conspiracy was real 521 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,680 cos then at least Neely would have done it for something? 522 00:23:58,720 --> 00:23:59,720 Yeah. 523 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,040 Yeah, absolutely. 524 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,200 Um... 525 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,720 You know, she fully believed that 526 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,800 she was doing it to protect all these children and... 527 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,000 But there wasn't really anything that we could do. 528 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,680 How do you help someone that is so far in it? 529 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,640 I mean, I think that's our biggest regret, 530 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,560 was feeling like we kind of... 531 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,440 ..pushed her away 532 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,240 and did that push her more into Q 533 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,720 and these conspiracies 534 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,720 because she didn't have anybody else? 535 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,200 BOTH: Double that. 536 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,800 Double, double this. Ooh! 537 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,000 THEY LAUGH That. OK. 538 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,680 The story ended when the onslaught of conspiracies 539 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,080 made Neely paranoid. 540 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,320 She stopped trusting Christopher Hallett. 541 00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:44,680 She became convinced he was plotting against her, 542 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,880 so she shot him dead. 543 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,040 REPORTER: 33-year-old Neely Petrie-Blanchard 544 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,600 shot and killed Christopher Hallett on Sunday. 545 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,720 Blanchard is awaiting expedition back to Marion County. 546 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,000 Neely's now awaiting trial 547 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,760 and can only talk to her family 548 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,720 from Marion County Jail in Florida. 549 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,520 Hey! KIDS: Hi! 550 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,360 Let me turn the volume up. 551 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,120 NEELY: I love you, girls! 552 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,840 Mommy misses you! 553 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:10,920 Miss you too. 554 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,200 Guess what, Mom! 555 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,960 We fed the bunnies, gave them a salad and they loved them. 556 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,640 Aw! I love your bunnies. 557 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,240 Yeah, y'all sing that. 558 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,200 KIDS: 559 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,320 560 00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:28,800 bling-bling, gone, bye. 561 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,720 Isn't that so cute? 562 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,000 I love you. 563 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,360 KIDS: Love you! Bye! 564 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,080 Can you do the other half? 565 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,880 Huggies! Hugs. 566 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,840 So how do you feel after talking to your mama? 567 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,240 Is... 568 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,680 How do you feel? Weird. 569 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:48,720 Weird? OK. 570 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,200 Why do you feel weird? 571 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,040 Because, like, we're talking to her on a phone. 572 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,560 Not, like, in person. 573 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,440 What do you know about why she's there? 574 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,680 Um, because... Yes. 575 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,000 I know. I know why. 576 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,560 Oh, you know why? 577 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,440 She made a bad choice, didn't she? 578 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:06,520 Mm-hmm. 579 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,880 Can't let our emotions get out of hand. 580 00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:17,760 Did you ever think it could get to this point? 581 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,920 That she'd be in prison off the back of shooting a man? 582 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,040 Never... 583 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,640 ..in 1 million years would we have imagined 584 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,160 that we would be in this situation. You know? 585 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,680 CHUCKLING: Don't cry. 586 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,040 Yeah, and then it all hits. Uh-huh. Um... 587 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,440 The girls, you know, 588 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,560 I wonder how it's gonna affect their lives. 589 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,040 It worries me. 590 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,440 Now they all possibly could lose their mother forever. 591 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:46,680 To this day, 592 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,680 Neely still believes Q and Donald Trump will save her. 593 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,120 Her story makes me wonder 594 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,320 just how much trauma plays a part 595 00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:56,640 in people's descent down the rabbit hole. 596 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,360 After losing her children and struggling with her life, 597 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,920 Q and conspiracy offered Neely comfort. 598 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,400 It gave her a way out. 599 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,000 All right, we're convening this meeting. 600 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,480 It's July 1st 2021. 601 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,040 I feared for Amanda and Dave, 602 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,640 the two ardent Q followers I'd met earlier. 603 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,240 They seem like good people. 604 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,240 They were convinced that 605 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,440 they had to defeat the evil of the world. 606 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,400 Can we get a photo before the storm? 607 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:21,720 VOICEOVER: But at what cost? 608 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,720 How have your family reacted to the Q? 609 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:26,760 My kids don't wanna... 610 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,680 You know, they don't wanna talk to me, they don't call me. 611 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,960 We're not close because of their feelings, what their beliefs are... 612 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,600 They don't wanna hear this. 613 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,520 When I started speaking out about all this stuff, my... 614 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:41,760 Um... 615 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,120 You know, my family all just were like, "What the heck?!" 616 00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:49,280 Cos I just was like, I wasn't gonna hold anything back and... 617 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,520 So... 618 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,760 It just came out of nowhere for them 619 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,200 and I just... 620 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,080 ..you know, threw up all over them. 621 00:27:56,120 --> 00:27:58,920 Pretty much. That's normal. AMANDA LAUGHS 622 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,280 What's it like to not be believed? 623 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,280 It is what it is and, you know, after God comes to you in a dream 624 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,480 and tells you all this crap is going on you're kind of like, 625 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,640 "Oh. This crap is going on." 626 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:11,680 So... 627 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,640 So there's nothing that could kind of prove it wrong in your mind? 628 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:16,840 Er, no. 629 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,840 No because I've seen the evil. 630 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,360 And there's a coming, OK? 631 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,480 There's a reckoning. 632 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,120 And, er, this reign of evil is over with. 633 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,800 And we're moving into a new era of time. 634 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,360 No-one I had met was willing to consider they could be wrong. 635 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,480 It was all just too important. 636 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,280 For Amanda, this was a calling from God. 637 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,520 To show me what made her first venture down the rabbit hole, 638 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,720 Amanda asked me to meet her at the place it all began - 639 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:54,760 her work. 640 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,480 LOW-PITCHED OBOE PLAYS PLUCKING STRINGS 641 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,200 Can I see the shot real quick? 642 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,720 Of course you can. Hold on. 643 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,720 You seem to be very sensitive about your appearance. 644 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:20,520 Probably because society programs you to believe that... 645 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,480 ..you need to be pretty to be loved. 646 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:29,040 STRINGS BUILD 647 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,600 Where are we and what do you do? 648 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,000 We are at an exotic dance club. 649 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,400 This is not what you want your kid to grow up and do. 650 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,840 A lot of girls come here lost and broken 651 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:45,960 and they need help. 652 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,240 And they're hurting and... 653 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,160 And they're not here any more. 654 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,880 How did you find yourself here? 655 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,160 When I was 18 in high school, 656 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,880 all I wanted to do was become an actress, so... 657 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,480 ..I put myself through two years of college, 658 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:06,800 I come home and... 659 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,280 I live in the heart of the heroin epidemic. 660 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,080 All my friends were on heroin. 661 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,800 My best friend's no longer with us cos she died. 662 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,280 She used to work here. 663 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,000 Sorry to hear that. 664 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,280 AMANDA EXHALES 665 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,640 EERIE CHATTER ECHOES 666 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,320 I've only known you for a matter of days. 667 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:40,960 But it feels like, you know, 668 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,040 you genuinely really want 669 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,000 to do some good in the world. 670 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,160 But you're not sure 671 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:46,520 how best to do that. 672 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:50,400 I just... 673 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,160 I wanna help the lost and broken. 674 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,480 How do you do that? AMANDA EXHALES 675 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,800 I've been guided to be in this club. 676 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,240 I had a girl that... 677 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,920 ..worked with me here. 678 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,440 I remember crying out to God, like, "I'm so tired of this, I..." 679 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,160 "I just, I just want out, I'm done, I'm done, God, I'm done." 680 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,680 But everything inside of me was like, "You still need to be here." 681 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,320 DISTANT CHEERING ECHOES 682 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,880 It sounds kind of lonely. 683 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,480 Yeah. It can be a very lonely walk. 684 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,080 And no-one understands it. 685 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,880 Cos they're not walking in your shoes. 686 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,160 Amanda's story just makes me feel 687 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,240 a bit sad, to be honest. 688 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,080 It's clear why Q is so important 689 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,040 and why it's so hard to let go. 690 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,840 It makes her life worthwhile 691 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,400 and I think it also shows why 692 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,680 she's never gonna not drink the Kool-Aid. 693 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:58,960 But it's also scary 694 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,840 because when you believe something so ardently 695 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,960 and you are willing to literally die for that cause, 696 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,800 what is the end goal? 697 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,080 VIOLIN BOWS RESTLESSLY 698 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,040 CROWD CHANTING: We love Trump! We love Trump! 699 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,520 We love Trump! We love Trump! 700 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,800 RHYTHMIC CLAPPING We love Trump! We love Trump 701 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,400 I wonder what I will be proved right about next. 702 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,240 Perhaps it will be the election. 703 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,600 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE VIOLIN CRESCENDOS 704 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,760 WHISTLING We will never, ever surrender! 705 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,360 All over the world, 706 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,520 an online conspiracy movement that started in the US 707 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,280 was finding its way to the top of politics. 708 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,320 CAR HORN BEEPS Lies of a cabal 709 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,000 and fake claims of rigged elections 710 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,400 were being used in order to win votes. 711 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,160 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE In the weird world of Q, 712 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,880 Donald Trump was the saviour. 713 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,240 But as Q disappeared from public view 714 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,360 and Trump failed to win re-election, 715 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,600 new leaders had stepped into the frame. 716 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,440 Defeating these murderers! 717 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,920 Michael Flynn, along with Mike Lindell, 718 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,080 was at the top of the conspiracy tree. 719 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,760 We will get through this and get back to a place 720 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,400 that's stronger and safer than ever. 721 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,440 Flynn is a powerful figure. 722 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,120 He's a close confidante of Trump 723 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,360 and reached the very top of the US military 724 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:20,720 as a three-star general. 725 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,320 He made headlines after he filmed himself 726 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,440 doing a pledge associated with QAnon. 727 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,480 ALL: I... THEIR VOICES DROWN EACH OTHER OUT 728 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,360 ..Flynn. Do solemnly swear. 729 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,800 ALL: Do solemnly swear. 730 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,200 Where we go one, we go all. Where we go one, we go all. 731 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,240 God bless America. 732 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,760 Flynn and his family say 733 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,640 this has nothing to do with Q 734 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,880 and that it's simply a family statement of support to one another. 735 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,440 But he's a superstar amongst Q supporters. 736 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,880 Where does Michael Flynn kind of fit into it all? 737 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,800 Michael Flynn, yeah, I think he's definitely one of the biggest names. 738 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,720 I mean, I think that he has something to do with it. 739 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,920 I definitely think it's a military operation - a positive one. 740 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,880 It's just about spreading truth and exposing the corruption. 741 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:03,320 When they find out a crime was committed, i.e. election crime, 742 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,480 you put the winner back in. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 743 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,200 WHISTLING 744 00:34:09,240 --> 00:34:12,120 Mike Lindell is the owner of a $1 billion pillow brand 745 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,640 called My Pillow. 746 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,520 Mike Lindell of My Pillow, 747 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,400 boy, do you sell those pillows, it's unbelievable. 748 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,920 He also denies any connection to Q, 749 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,280 but he's become a hero to Q supporters 750 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,840 for peddling conspiracies that the US election 751 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,200 was rigged against Trump. 752 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,440 SIRENS BLARE 753 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,360 Michael Flynn's name had continually popped up 754 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,720 as a potential leader of this movement, 755 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,640 and even a future President. 756 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,320 But how did he feel about his alleged associations to Q? 757 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,640 And would he defend the conspiracies? 758 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,360 Both of the Mikes hate the mainstream media 759 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,280 and pretty much never do interviews, 760 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,560 but once again, through the help of Pastor Mark Burns, 761 00:34:58,600 --> 00:34:59,800 I'd made it in. 762 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,480 Today is quite a big day. 763 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,480 I've finally got an interview with Michael Flynn. 764 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,440 I've been trying to do this for weeks. 765 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,160 There's been a lot of false starts. 766 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,640 I didn't think it was gonna happen, to be honest, 767 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,720 and then all of a sudden I was told that if I come to Los Angeles, 768 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,680 I would be able to have some time with him. 769 00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:20,840 It's gonna be quite a challenge, 770 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,920 but it's an important day in the world of Q - 771 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,680 for me, at least. 772 00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:30,600 HORN BLARES 773 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,160 WOMAN GIGGLES Seriously. All right. 774 00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:39,160 Am I meant to sit here? 775 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,080 I wanna get five minutes with you. Yes. The general's here now. 776 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,360 I'm looking at him. That's right. THEY LAUGH 777 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,840 I was finally in the room with two of the most powerful men 778 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,440 in the world of alternate truth. 779 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,400 It must have been about, I suppose, around 8th January and then... 780 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,560 Yeah. I was thrown off of Twitter. 781 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,000 Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. Around about 8th, 9th, yeah. 782 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,960 Are you guys ready to rock and roll? 783 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,960 Yeah. Let's do it. 784 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,240 Do you think realistically in the next few months 785 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,560 Trump might be reinstated? 786 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,200 There's no more conspiracy theory about election fraud. 787 00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:10,560 3, November 2020 in a presidential election. 788 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,960 It's no more a theory. It is a conspiracy. 789 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,240 Would I like to see a reinstatement? 790 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,280 You're damn right, I'd like to see a reinstatement of President Trump. 791 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,480 Mike, am I right in thinking that by August 792 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:21,960 Trump might be back in office? 793 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,120 Yeah, we're out by a little bit, it could be September. 794 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,680 It's worth remembering that there's zero evidence 795 00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:30,520 to support the theory the election was stolen. 796 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,360 America's Attorney General threw out 60 cases 797 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,320 and in September 2021, 798 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,480 the audit in Arizona that they're referencing 799 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,040 confirmed that Joe Biden won the election. 800 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,480 Why do you think there's such a disparity, I suppose, 801 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,440 in thinking in the States at the moment? 802 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,240 Some people would say there hasn't been evidence of election fraud. 803 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,200 A lot of these cases were thrown out. 804 00:36:49,240 --> 00:36:51,680 Donald Trump won 80 million to 68 million. 805 00:36:51,720 --> 00:36:54,240 This was massive. Every state, it happened in. 806 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,280 The evidence is clear. 807 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,240 I mean, there's been a ton of evidence. 808 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,960 All you gotta do is read it 809 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,160 and hopefully the media one of these days will... 810 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,360 honest journalists will figure it out and report it. 811 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:04,600 It's a crime that happened 812 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,120 against every citizen of the United States of America. 813 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,160 Mm-hmm. Yep. 814 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,360 One thing that is kind of hard to escape 815 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,360 is the movement around the perimeters here, QAnon. 816 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,240 What's your opinion on Q? 817 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,960 What is it? 818 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,920 You know what it is at this point. 819 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,280 A group of people that don't like paedophilia? 820 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:24,520 What's your opinion on it? 821 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,000 Is it good, is it bad? 822 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,480 I think that paedophilia is disgusting. 823 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,520 Is Q a domestic terror threat? 824 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:30,880 Is that your... 825 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,120 Is that what it is? 826 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,600 I don't know. I don't know. 827 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,840 You've become quite a central figure of it. 828 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,040 The kind of messiah of that... Really? 829 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,960 Yeah, yeah, for sure, if you look outside, some of the T-shirts. 830 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,640 What're you asking me about? I mean, get to the point. 831 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,800 That is the point. Are you happy that you're being associated with Q? 832 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,160 If there's somebody against paedophilia, I'm with them. 833 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,880 Yeah, cos I think... Cos they're against paedophilia, I mean, right? 834 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,640 So is paedophilia good or bad? 835 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:55,960 To you? Right? 836 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,360 Now, I know you won't even... Yeah, I definitely don't think paedophilia is good. 837 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:00,840 See, you won't even play that. 838 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,280 Why would I not play that? Because I know your... 839 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,200 ..organisation. See, but this is the thing... You're asking a stupid question. 840 00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:08,880 You wouldn't even ask that if you were doing an interview. 841 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,800 But why is it a stupid question? You're here to interview us. 842 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,680 This is the big life. It doesn't matter who stands behind us or doesn't... Exactly. Yeah. 843 00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:17,640 The evidence, the truth shall set you free. 844 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,600 This'll once again be one nation under God. 845 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,040 I've no idea what QAnon is, I really don't know... 846 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,960 You don't know what QAnon is? I've no idea... Are you serious? 847 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,320 I don't. But let me tell you what you need to do. You've both been asked about it multiple times. 848 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,240 You've the privilege of interviewing General Flynn and Mike Lindell... Why's it so offensive? 849 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,080 I'm just asking a question. I think the interview's over. Wasted my time. 850 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,560 Why does it need to be offensive? 851 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,560 There's people here it means a lot to... Because that's what you all are. 852 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,120 That's such a joke, what you did. OK. Thank you very much. 853 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,640 Shame on you. It's people like you that have hurt our country. 854 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,800 I'm not sure that's the truth, but thanks a lot for your time. 855 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,320 Hey, quick question - what company are you guys with? 856 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:56,560 Channel 4. Channel 4. Local? 857 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,040 No, no, it's in the UK. 858 00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,640 Oh, UK. OK. Got you. 859 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,600 All right. Do you work with Michael Flynn? 860 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,200 No. No. All right, OK. 861 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,200 I think Mark's in trouble now. 862 00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:10,160 He's led us into the world of Q 863 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,360 and we asked the questions we weren't meant to, 864 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,080 and now everyone's freaking the hell out. 865 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,760 Hey, Mark. Dude, that's bad! I thought... 866 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,880 I want to put y'all in front of people, but you can't do that, man. 867 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,360 What, ask about Q? 868 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,200 Brother. 869 00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:25,560 We asked you about Q, though. 870 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,280 Yes, but... You... HE SIGHS 871 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:29,640 Really? You can't do that. 872 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,400 We asked you about it, we asked Roger about it, no-one had an issue. 873 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,440 Courtney! I didn't realise there'd be such a... 874 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,160 If there's anything that's controversial, you may want to just 875 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,200 ask us about it and so that... Maybe it would help to understand why... 876 00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:43,440 Because I can't bring nobody else, like... We're not... 877 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,400 He's got our microphone. He's wearing our microphone. 878 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:47,920 MAN: You guys from Channel 4? 879 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,320 We are the Channel 4 dudes. I'm going to need you to go out that way. 880 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,880 OK. Thank you. We just need to get our microphone back. 881 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,040 Who are you with? Channel 4. 882 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,320 I'll go find it, give me just a second. You guys can't go there. Yeah, please. 883 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,920 Yeah, yeah. God, yeah. 884 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,880 All right, we just got kicked out. 885 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,680 What an ungraceful ending, eh? 886 00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:11,640 This is politics today, not just in the States, but in the UK, you know? 887 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,760 You ask certain questions, conversations just get 888 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,200 shut down, and there's no meeting in the middle. 889 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,360 They're probably surrounded by so many yes-men that they've 890 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,440 lost all semblance of the truth, and that's what makes them 891 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,800 so dangerous, because ultimately... 892 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,960 ..they're willing to undermine US democracy, 893 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,680 they're willing to call on people to fight. 894 00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:34,280 I've been having conversations this whole time with people who 895 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,160 feel like Q is their life. They're literally willing to die for it. 896 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,240 They're also willing to die for the likes of Michael Flynn and Mike Lindell. 897 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,280 Very sad. 898 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,640 CROWD CHANTS: Freedom! Freedom! Freedom! Freedom! 899 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,400 WOMAN: Freedom! Freedom! 900 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,640 The Q movement has spread around the world, 901 00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,480 and its digital soldiers can be found right on our doorstep. 902 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,920 This is satanic! CROWD: Yes! 903 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,160 According to our exclusive polling in partnership with YouGov, 904 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,800 58% of Brits think satanic ritual abuse of children probably 905 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,840 happens, and 10% of the British public believe 906 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,240 the UK Government need to be overthrown by force. 907 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,080 Both of these beliefs have direct links to the QAnon movement. 908 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,480 The worst case scenario is they're being sacrificed 909 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:29,160 to the devil in satanic rituals. 910 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,800 I think Trump's going to be able to save us all. I think... 911 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,560 Because there's so much corruption that's going to come across to 912 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,360 this country, that's come across from America. 913 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:40,880 Because we're part of it. 914 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,000 This is no conspiracy. 915 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,520 Most of them in there are evil, 916 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,880 and underpinning it all has been a trade for centuries 917 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,440 that is going on, and it's the trade of children. 918 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,440 Eight million children go missing every year. 919 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:56,880 Where do they go? 920 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,080 In Nazi Germany, it wasn't overnight! 921 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,280 They change the Mental Health Act, 922 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,800 they passed all the same laws 923 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,440 that are being passed now. 924 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:13,360 At the Nuremberg trials, the doctors and nurses stood trial, 925 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:14,680 and they hung! 926 00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:17,800 This is Kate Shemirani, 927 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,480 the pre-eminent figure in the world of British conspiracy at the moment. 928 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,640 That was her suggesting NHS doctors and nurses could be tried 929 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,200 and even hung for their part in the UK's vaccination programme. 930 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,960 Kate's a former nurse who was struck off. 931 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,160 She uses the NHS and her anti-vaccine 932 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,560 beliefs as a rallying cry, and has given the conspiracies 933 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,240 of satanic abusers and the deep state a uniquely British edge. 934 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,280 Hi, how are you? Hey, Kate, how you doing? Nice to meet you. 935 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,920 You too. 936 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,040 It's always good to get the initial reaction. 937 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,240 That's all right, nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. 938 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,760 I hear you're a Scouser. I am, yeah. I'm a Scouser indeed. 939 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,600 I'm just locking you in, fellas, so you can't leave. 940 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,720 No, no, no... 941 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,880 Come into my... Come into my garage food store, 942 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,200 my bikes, my gym. 943 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,560 Right now, I'm looking at what the Government is doing 944 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:20,400 and I don't want to be governed by what I see are people that are 945 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,920 completely overstepping the powers that have been bestowed upon them 946 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,360 by us, the people. 947 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:30,880 So the right channels need to be used to cease their power. 948 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,000 In real-life, Kate was friendly and hospitable, 949 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:39,440 a world away from the preacher screaming about Satan in Trafalgar Square. 950 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,680 But by alluding to NHS workers being hung, 951 00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:47,000 she had taken British conspiracy down a dark, terrifying path. 952 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:52,000 At that rally in July, in Trafalgar Square, you seemed to make a link 953 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:57,240 that the NHS workers of today should be hung for their participation. 954 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,760 It's not for me to decide the law, it's the Rome Statute, I believe. 955 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,440 I... But you can... Hang on. You can have an opinion on it... 956 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,720 No, you're not going to make me... It really got a lot of media coverage. Excellent. 957 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,400 It was pretty scary, you know? Even standing there... Excellent. 958 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,800 It seemed to be... You said at the Nuremberg trials 959 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,080 those doctors and nurses hung. You don't like me mentioning Nuremberg. 960 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,920 Why don't you want me to mention Nuremberg? 961 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,440 Does it make you uncomfortable? Because it's unbelievably incendiary. Yes, it does. 962 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,760 Does it make you uncomfortable? It's extremely incendiary 963 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,320 to say that publicly in front of tens of thousands of people... It's incendiary? That's... 964 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,680 It's incendiary? That the workers in the NHS could potentially meet that fate. 965 00:44:29,720 --> 00:44:32,400 It's incendiary? It's incendiary. OK, well, let's talk about it. 966 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,680 It's incendiary. This was in the last hundred years, 967 00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:40,640 they facilitated the death of disabled children and adults. 968 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,640 And you're saying that that's happening today with Covid? And they believed... 969 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:49,600 They believe at that time that they were doing the right thing. 970 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,440 Over the last 18 months, Kate's been speaking 971 00:44:55,480 --> 00:45:00,040 up and down the country in front of crowds of thousands of people, 972 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,120 and it appears to be working. 973 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:06,600 From our research with YouGov, 65% of Brits believe the people who have 974 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,560 the most influence and power in the UK are not our elected politicians. 975 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,280 But has this support and encouragement 976 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,120 led her to consider a move into politics? 977 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,600 Could you see yourself running for a political party? 978 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,640 I have considered and now opened that door. 979 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,280 It's not something that I've thought about and dismissed. 980 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,600 This is my camerawoman, as well. 981 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,600 She does all my filming when we're out. 982 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,520 You've encouraged me to go into politics, haven't you? Yeah. 983 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,720 We were chatting with Kate about whether she might 984 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,360 run for Prime Minister one day. Fantastic idea. 985 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,240 Would you vote for her? I would. 986 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,760 SHE CHUCKLES 987 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,000 It's hard, because everything they say has, like, a pearl of something 988 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,480 that could be reality, and they hook you on that point and say, 989 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,360 "See? See?" You know? "Do you get what I'm saying?" 990 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,520 Because of that tiny bits in this wider argument I'm making. 991 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,240 It's like, "No, no." Just because that tiny bit is true, 992 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,360 they just extrapolate everything and then they manipulate people 993 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,480 and they ask for money and they make them go out 994 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,960 and vote on the back of these things that are lies. 995 00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:15,760 The dark forces of conspiracy have deeply embedded 996 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:20,760 themselves in our political systems, and after going behind the veil, 997 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,320 it's clear that none of us are safe from their lies and misinformation. 998 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,040 Conspiracies like Q give people hope and purpose, 999 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:33,080 but the road from obscure conspiracy to undermining democracy is 1000 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,120 one paved with good intentions. 1001 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,480 Conspiracy led to the biggest assault ever on US democracy. 1002 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,720 If left unchecked, where will it lead the rest of us? 1003 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,760 Subtitles by Red Bee Media