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[dramatic music]

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HEATHER: Rockville is
a maximum security facility.

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You got a very tall fence
with razor wire,

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rows and rows of razor wire.

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There are towers, and there's
a guard that's armed

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that drives
around the perimeter.

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♪♪

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WILLARD: There's around
about 1,200 inmates there.

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Whether it was because
it was all women,

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they just didn't cause
any problems.

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[heavy breathing,
indistinct chatter]

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HEATHER:
August the 4th, 2008,

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an ordinary day.

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You just kind of wake up.

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And everybody has
their own routine.

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[faint shouting]

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WILLARD: They run at least
three visual body counts

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a day.

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You had to be on your bunk
and show skin for the count.

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[indistinct chatter]

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We got counted, and then
the count ran over...

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not abnormal.

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And they counted us again.

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And that's when you, you know...
you really start to think

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what is going on
that they can't count,

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or where would somebody be?

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OFFICER [over radio]:
The count was bad.

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We had two bad counts
to verify all the empty beds.

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WILLARD: At 4:00,
they had one missing.

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Very, very unusual.

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OFFICER [over radio]:
Try to verify

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where the offenders are,
where they should be.

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The sergeants,
the... the bigwigs,

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they come in, start counting,

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stomping around, huffy, puffy.

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Um, they were... they were mad.

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OFFICER [over radio]:
Go up to room I.

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Check around Pender's bed area

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and see if perhaps she might
be hiding in a locker.

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Then about
a half an hour goes by.

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And you can just, like, hear
the whispers across the dorm.

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PERSON: Thank you.
We're out of here.

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OFFICER [over radio]:
We're unable to locate her

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on the facility grounds.

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Somebody said,
Sarah's not in her bed.

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And I just...
[chuckles, sighs]

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Got a little twinge
of excitement in my stomach.

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And I said, she did it.

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She got out of here.

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WILLARD:
Sarah Pender just vanished.

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You know, we gotta get her back.

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She's already killed two people.

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Who knows what she's
gonna do next?

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Tonight a convicted killer
is on the loose.

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REPORTER 1:
A woman escaped

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from the Rockville
Correctional Facility.

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REPORTER 2:
A Marion County jury

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convicted Sarah Pender
in the year 2000

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in a double murder.

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REPORTER 1: Along with her
then boyfriend Richard Hull,

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she helped kill
a man and a woman

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and then stashed their bodies
in a dumpster.

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She has a Charles Manson-like
ability to manipulate people

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in committing crimes.

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PERSON: She looks like
a sweet little innocent girl.

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But within, there's a deep,
evil demon.

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Hi.

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My name is Sarah Pender.

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[laughs]

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-INTERVIEWER: Hang on.
-OK. Wait a minute.

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My name is Sarah Pender.

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People have called me a manip...

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people have called me
all sorts of names.

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They've said
that I'm a manipulator,

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that I'm psychologically...

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I'm a psychopath.

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[somber music]

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Stop looking at me.

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This is gonna be it.
People call me a...

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[whispering]
Manipulator, pathological.

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♪♪

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[dramatic music]

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♪♪

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Every inmate thinks
about escaping prison,

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especially when you have
a lot of time.

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♪♪

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I was sent to prison
for 110 years

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for two murders
that I did not commit.

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♪♪

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I knew that I was
going to die in prison.

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♪♪

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And then one day, I thought,

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I bet I can get out of here.

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[tense music]

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I knew that I would need help.

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Even if I made it past the
guards or through the fence,

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I would need someone there
to pick me up.

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♪♪

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So I definitely needed, um,
a partner to help me out.

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And then I found one.

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Once the gate was open,
I remember

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walking across the pavement
and it being so hot.

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I was so excited.

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I was never going back.

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♪♪

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This is what I've been
waiting for,

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so don't flake out now.

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♪♪

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I remember looking and seeing
cows in the pasture,

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driving through small towns,
looking at all the buildings

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and small structures,

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wondering what all those
little people

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were doing in their little lives

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and how they had no idea
what was happening.

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I felt completely refreshed.

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And I remember hitting
the dashboard and just...

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[imitates banging]
And I was like, I'm free!

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[phone ringing]

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BONNIE:
I was down in Florida.

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And I get a phone call.

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And it was Sarah.

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And then it dawned on me,
well, normally when she

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would call me from prison,
the operator comes on,

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and that didn't come on.

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And it was Sarah's voice.

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And I was like, well,
where are you calling me from?

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I'm on a cell phone,
and I'm on the road.

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And that just threw me
for a total loop.

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I was standing there
with my mouth open like,

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did she just tell me
she walked out of prison?

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♪♪

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ROLAND: I'm living
out on the West Coast.

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[phone rings]

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The phone rings, and it's
Bonnie, uh, Sarah's mom.

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And Sarah had, um... had escaped,
and she was gone.

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110 years, that's what the...
the judge sentenced Sarah to.

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Sarah was... was 21
when she was arrested.

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She had, uh, her whole life
in front of her.

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♪♪

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Growing up,
she's a joyful child,

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her and her sister, Jennifer.

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We were living in, uh,
Greenfield.

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It's a small town
east of Indianapolis.

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She was, uh,
kind and considerate,

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intelligent.

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♪♪

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BONNIE: She just amazed me
in... in how quickly

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that she'd just learn.

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It was like she was two grades
higher than what she was.

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♪♪

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ROLAND: Years later,
and, uh, you know, now

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Sarah graduated
from high school.

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And we got the news
we'd been accepted at Purdue.

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It was a joyous time.

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[people cheering]

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She went straight
into biophysics,

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biochemistry,
trigonometry, and calculus.

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♪♪

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SARAH: I was lucky that
my father was very interested

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in my education, because he
knew that education was one

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of the number one things
that would

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help create success in life.

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♪♪

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ROLAND: She hadn't even really
got started on her life.

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♪♪

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And now your daughter's
on the run from the law.

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Yeah, well, how can this be?

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It just doesn't make any sense.

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♪♪

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JAMIE: I can't believe
she's sitting next to me

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in this vehicle
and we're driving away.

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♪♪

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Things were just right,
from movements

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that particular day

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to who was on the gate that day.

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SARAH: I met Jamie
in county jail.

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What started as a sexual
relationship became

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a deep friendship between us.

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And now Jamie had
already been out of jail

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for quite some time.

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She already had this free life
that she was risking for me.

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But I trusted that...
that she would be there

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whenever I got out.

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[engine rumbling]

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One of the things that made me
fall in love with Jamie

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was, she was very defiant.

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And I admired her guts.

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Jamie was down for anything.

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She liked risks,
and she liked me.

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JAMIE: You know what?

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I'm gonna be perfectly
honest with you.

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I told her, don't look back.

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I loved her enough
to let her go.

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INTERVIEWER: You want her
to stay out, free.

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Yeah. [bleep] yeah, I do.

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INTERVIEWER: You want her
to be free forever.

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[bleep] yeah, I do.

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[chuckles]
Run, Sarah, run.

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[tense music]

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♪♪

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REPORTER 1:
Now, Sarah Pender is described

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as a white female, 5'8",

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weighing about 200 pounds,

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with brown hair and blue eyes.

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REPORTER 2: Police say
they are tracking Pender,

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and she should be
considered dangerous.

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Jamie dropped me off
at the safe house

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and left to get me
clean clothes and hair dye,

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a new cell phone, my money.

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EDWIN: We are gonna use
every resource

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to hunt her down and find her.

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There were a lot out
physically looking,

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the entire
Department of Corrections,

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Homeland Security.

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We didn't know
what she was gonna do.

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It's concerning because we
don't know where this woman is.

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You know, we don't know
what she's capable of.

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PERSON: I live about
seven miles south,

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and there's woods
all around there,

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so that's... that's
always been a concern.

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WILLARD: We didn't have any
evidence of how she got out.

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She didn't breach the perimeter.

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She didn't go over
the fence or anything.

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There's only one conclusion...

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that she went out
through a gate.

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To do that, she had
to have an accomplice,

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a correctional officer.

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They reviewed a lot of tapes,
and they come up

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with a primary suspect,
Scott Spitler,

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the correctional officer,
because he

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went out about the time
that she had gotten out.

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I know this Spitler guy
has to be the one that did it.

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Said, I want to see him.

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I got him in an interview room.

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I asked him if he would
take a voice stress test.

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And he said yes.

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It's a lie detector of sorts.

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I mean, he was nervous,
he's stuttering,

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and guilt
was pouring out of him.

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And he failed it badly,
real bad.

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And, uh, finally he confessed.

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He told us everything about
how he helped her get out.

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♪♪

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SARAH: Planning my escape
took several months.

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I knew that I would need money
once I got out,

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so I began to watch
and pay attention,

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consider,
and look for opportunities.

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♪♪

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I identified Scott Spitler,
and I befriended him.

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I would pay him
to bring in contraband...

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cell phones, tobacco, Benadryl.

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I sent the money that I made
to my friend Jamie.

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Jamie held the money aside
so that I would have it

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whenever I got out.

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And at this point,
Scott saw an opportunity

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to make even more money, um,

257
00:13:43,281 --> 00:13:45,384
because he knew
how to get me out.

258
00:13:45,408 --> 00:13:49,847
He asked me for $15,000
in order for him

259
00:13:49,871 --> 00:13:52,474
to drive me to the parking lot.

260
00:13:52,498 --> 00:13:54,226
And I agreed.

261
00:13:54,250 --> 00:13:55,811
[dog barking]

262
00:13:55,835 --> 00:13:59,398
But as time went on, Scott
wanted to have sex with me.

263
00:13:59,422 --> 00:14:01,567
♪♪

264
00:14:01,591 --> 00:14:05,654
It's not like I have a choice.

265
00:14:05,678 --> 00:14:08,574
And so I did what I had to do.

266
00:14:08,598 --> 00:14:12,161
♪♪

267
00:14:12,185 --> 00:14:16,123
WILLARD: Scott Spitler
told me about utilizing a van

268
00:14:16,147 --> 00:14:18,083
and went through the back gates

269
00:14:18,107 --> 00:14:20,878
and let her out
in the front parking lot,

270
00:14:20,902 --> 00:14:25,531
where Jamie, a longtime friend
of Sarah's, picked her up.

271
00:14:27,075 --> 00:14:30,429
SARAH: I saw Scott
as a means to an end.

272
00:14:30,453 --> 00:14:35,517
Before I got out of the van,
I said, Scott, I love you,

273
00:14:35,541 --> 00:14:37,144
and I will text you later.

274
00:14:37,168 --> 00:14:38,812
And Scott said, you better.

275
00:14:38,836 --> 00:14:41,607
♪♪

276
00:14:41,631 --> 00:14:44,359
WILLARD:
She never called.

277
00:14:44,383 --> 00:14:46,236
And I told him, I said,
it looks pretty obvious

278
00:14:46,260 --> 00:14:49,364
that you... you got took.

279
00:14:49,388 --> 00:14:53,786
She had the ability
to bring people in to her.

280
00:14:53,810 --> 00:14:58,749
Uh, I've... I've never seen
an inmate like that before.

281
00:14:58,773 --> 00:15:00,709
REPORTER:
41-year-old Scott Spitler...

282
00:15:00,733 --> 00:15:03,003
he is now in jail,
facing seven charges,

283
00:15:03,027 --> 00:15:04,630
including assisting a criminal,

284
00:15:04,654 --> 00:15:07,633
official misconduct,
and sexual misconduct.

285
00:15:07,657 --> 00:15:09,176
EDWIN: I have no idea
what he was thinking,

286
00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:10,385
if he was manipulated.

287
00:15:10,409 --> 00:15:12,221
She should be
considered dangerous.

288
00:15:12,245 --> 00:15:15,224
[helicopter rotors whirring]

289
00:15:15,248 --> 00:15:17,351
♪♪

290
00:15:17,375 --> 00:15:20,145
WILLARD: When we got
Jamie's name out of Spitler,

291
00:15:20,169 --> 00:15:23,440
immediately we go
to the visitation records.

292
00:15:23,464 --> 00:15:26,777
We saw Jamie Long's name
everywhere.

293
00:15:26,801 --> 00:15:29,029
♪♪

294
00:15:29,053 --> 00:15:31,323
We looked to see how many times
she'd been there,

295
00:15:31,347 --> 00:15:36,703
what her last visit was,
what her address was.

296
00:15:36,727 --> 00:15:37,913
[siren wailing]

297
00:15:37,937 --> 00:15:40,791
So we got
an emergency response team

298
00:15:40,815 --> 00:15:41,959
to Jamie's house.

299
00:15:41,983 --> 00:15:44,711
[indistinct
police radio chatter]

300
00:15:44,735 --> 00:15:48,757
So we had a very brief,
uh, interview with Jamie,

301
00:15:48,781 --> 00:15:51,218
and she didn't give up
any information.

302
00:15:51,242 --> 00:15:52,845
[phone beeping]

303
00:15:52,869 --> 00:15:55,389
SARAH:
I looked at my phone.

304
00:15:55,413 --> 00:15:57,391
Jamie texted me.

305
00:15:57,415 --> 00:16:01,603
An officer had talked to her.

306
00:16:01,627 --> 00:16:04,565
She was afraid
to come to the house

307
00:16:04,589 --> 00:16:09,319
because she didn't want
to lead them to me.

308
00:16:09,343 --> 00:16:14,158
I needed my money to move on.

309
00:16:14,182 --> 00:16:16,243
I don't know what to do.
What do I do? What do I do?

310
00:16:16,267 --> 00:16:18,370
[siren wailing]

311
00:16:18,394 --> 00:16:21,957
WILLARD: Yeah, and, you know,
we didn't waste any time.

312
00:16:21,981 --> 00:16:26,170
And the commissioner called
US Marshals task force.

313
00:16:26,194 --> 00:16:28,797
♪♪

314
00:16:28,821 --> 00:16:30,591
She was gonna get caught.

315
00:16:30,615 --> 00:16:32,384
You're gonna come back.

316
00:16:32,408 --> 00:16:36,054
And nobody's gonna care
about you anymore.

317
00:16:36,078 --> 00:16:40,726
♪♪

318
00:16:40,750 --> 00:16:42,019
REPORTER: Sarah Pender
was the first inmate

319
00:16:42,043 --> 00:16:44,062
to ever escape from this prison,

320
00:16:44,086 --> 00:16:45,939
and they hope she's the last.

321
00:16:45,963 --> 00:16:48,734
RYAN: Over my three years
working with US Marshals,

322
00:16:48,758 --> 00:16:51,278
I caught hundreds
of murderers...

323
00:16:51,302 --> 00:16:53,822
not dozens, hundreds.

324
00:16:53,846 --> 00:16:55,824
We're professionals.

325
00:16:55,848 --> 00:16:57,868
♪♪

326
00:16:57,892 --> 00:17:00,704
Every 24 hours,
I'd get a phone call.

327
00:17:00,728 --> 00:17:04,458
I was accustomed
to getting the next bad guy

328
00:17:04,482 --> 00:17:07,961
or the next bad girl.

329
00:17:07,985 --> 00:17:10,839
Typically we catch them
pretty quick.

330
00:17:10,863 --> 00:17:12,382
Department of Corrections,
they said

331
00:17:12,406 --> 00:17:15,719
that we had a female break out.

332
00:17:15,743 --> 00:17:19,181
It wasn't like, oh,
this is an interesting case.

333
00:17:19,205 --> 00:17:21,058
I mean, she escaped from prison.

334
00:17:21,082 --> 00:17:23,560
I don't get that, like,
emotional towards it.

335
00:17:23,584 --> 00:17:24,811
It's just another
fucking fugitive.

336
00:17:24,835 --> 00:17:26,688
REPORTER: She was driven
outside the gates

337
00:17:26,712 --> 00:17:28,690
by correctional officer
Scott Spitler.

338
00:17:28,714 --> 00:17:31,985
But also, it wasn't
that she robbed a bank.

339
00:17:32,009 --> 00:17:34,738
She killed two people
and put them in a dumpster.

340
00:17:34,762 --> 00:17:38,033
She's a risk to the public.

341
00:17:38,057 --> 00:17:39,952
Would she kill again?

342
00:17:39,976 --> 00:17:40,953
Probably.

343
00:17:40,977 --> 00:17:42,079
Would she want to go back?

344
00:17:42,103 --> 00:17:43,580
Probably not.

345
00:17:43,604 --> 00:17:46,458
It's... it's a pretty high-level,
dangerous situation.

346
00:17:46,482 --> 00:17:48,877
♪♪

347
00:17:48,901 --> 00:17:51,797
There's no better thrill
than the hunting of mankind,

348
00:17:51,821 --> 00:17:54,466
you know, the intellectual
being who can think,

349
00:17:54,490 --> 00:17:56,093
who's trying to out think you.

350
00:17:56,117 --> 00:17:57,552
Now, is that thrilling?

351
00:17:57,576 --> 00:17:59,054
You better fucking believe
it's thrilling.

352
00:17:59,078 --> 00:18:03,457
♪♪

353
00:18:07,003 --> 00:18:08,730
REPORTER: 29-year-old
Sarah Pender is still

354
00:18:08,754 --> 00:18:10,190
on the run after breaking out

355
00:18:10,214 --> 00:18:12,109
of the Rockville
Correctional Facility.

356
00:18:12,133 --> 00:18:13,860
She's certainly
a dangerous individual,

357
00:18:13,884 --> 00:18:17,281
uh, has the ability
and the capability of killing.

358
00:18:17,305 --> 00:18:19,283
The news came on, and they said

359
00:18:19,307 --> 00:18:21,785
that Sarah Pender had escaped.

360
00:18:21,809 --> 00:18:24,454
My heart sank.

361
00:18:24,478 --> 00:18:25,747
REPORTER:
In nearly eight years...

362
00:18:25,771 --> 00:18:27,249
PEGGY: The first time
I met Sarah

363
00:18:27,273 --> 00:18:29,126
was in the Marion County jail.

364
00:18:29,150 --> 00:18:33,964
She was coming in there
for a double murder.

365
00:18:33,988 --> 00:18:35,674
So I'm thinking
some crazy-looking lady

366
00:18:35,698 --> 00:18:37,217
is gonna come in.

367
00:18:37,241 --> 00:18:40,887
And she came in, and she
was just a normal person.

368
00:18:40,911 --> 00:18:42,306
She was young.

369
00:18:42,330 --> 00:18:43,640
She was really nervous.

370
00:18:43,664 --> 00:18:47,102
And I helped her,
you know, get settled in.

371
00:18:47,126 --> 00:18:48,461
She was like a daughter.

372
00:18:51,047 --> 00:18:53,525
She's a good person that...
she didn't do anything

373
00:18:53,549 --> 00:18:54,818
that she's accused of.

374
00:18:54,842 --> 00:18:58,405
[dramatic music]

375
00:18:58,429 --> 00:19:00,365
She wouldn't hurt anybody.

376
00:19:00,389 --> 00:19:03,410
♪♪

377
00:19:03,434 --> 00:19:05,454
Oh, Lord.

378
00:19:05,478 --> 00:19:08,165
She wouldn't hurt a fly.

379
00:19:08,189 --> 00:19:09,458
No.

380
00:19:09,482 --> 00:19:12,711
♪♪

381
00:19:12,735 --> 00:19:15,005
She called me.

382
00:19:15,029 --> 00:19:18,925
I just knew in my heart
that I had to help her.

383
00:19:18,949 --> 00:19:21,887
Whatever I could do,
I had to help her.

384
00:19:21,911 --> 00:19:23,930
♪♪

385
00:19:23,954 --> 00:19:26,224
SARAH: When I got
into Peggy's car,

386
00:19:26,248 --> 00:19:29,061
I think that the first thing
that she said to me was...

387
00:19:29,085 --> 00:19:34,358
Oh, my God, I can't
believe you're out.

388
00:19:34,382 --> 00:19:36,526
SARAH: I knew
that she would help me

389
00:19:36,550 --> 00:19:41,097
get the money from Jamie
to do whatever I needed to do.

390
00:19:43,265 --> 00:19:49,748
♪♪

391
00:19:49,772 --> 00:19:51,208
RYAN: When the
Department of Corrections

392
00:19:51,232 --> 00:19:53,668
shared with me that
Jamie Long had helped her,

393
00:19:53,692 --> 00:19:57,130
you know
that's a hell of a lead.

394
00:19:57,154 --> 00:20:00,550
Grab your gear
or radios or tac vest.

395
00:20:00,574 --> 00:20:02,761
I need to talk to her.

396
00:20:02,785 --> 00:20:07,391
♪♪

397
00:20:07,415 --> 00:20:10,894
Jamie was more scared
than I was.

398
00:20:10,918 --> 00:20:14,356
So she decided
to deliver the money

399
00:20:14,380 --> 00:20:16,942
undercover at a McDonald's.

400
00:20:16,966 --> 00:20:19,069
♪♪

401
00:20:19,093 --> 00:20:21,196
It was a risk.

402
00:20:21,220 --> 00:20:25,450
But without that,
I knew that I was in trouble.

403
00:20:25,474 --> 00:20:28,745
♪♪

404
00:20:28,769 --> 00:20:32,207
Even though the police
were on Jamie's tail,

405
00:20:32,231 --> 00:20:35,252
we had already
committed that far.

406
00:20:35,276 --> 00:20:39,214
So what's one more step?

407
00:20:39,238 --> 00:20:44,386
♪♪

408
00:20:44,410 --> 00:20:47,514
I was hoping that the police
had not connected Peggy

409
00:20:47,538 --> 00:20:52,310
to me yet, even if they
were following Jamie.

410
00:20:52,334 --> 00:20:54,855
However, I can't just be sitting

411
00:20:54,879 --> 00:20:57,566
in the back of Peggy's car.

412
00:20:57,590 --> 00:21:00,944
[chuckles] And so I climbed
into her trunk.

413
00:21:00,968 --> 00:21:04,406
[trunk door slams, engine revs]

414
00:21:04,430 --> 00:21:06,158
♪♪

415
00:21:06,182 --> 00:21:10,245
I remember feeling jumper
cables digging into my back.

416
00:21:10,269 --> 00:21:14,499
And it was so hot and stuffy,

417
00:21:14,523 --> 00:21:18,545
but it was what I had to do.

418
00:21:18,569 --> 00:21:23,383
Having that money is essential
to the rest of the plan.

419
00:21:23,407 --> 00:21:25,135
I'm driving,
and I'm just look... you know,

420
00:21:25,159 --> 00:21:28,180
checking all my mirrors,
thinking, oh, my God,

421
00:21:28,204 --> 00:21:30,182
you know,
are the police following me?

422
00:21:30,206 --> 00:21:33,101
I could have went
back to prison.

423
00:21:33,125 --> 00:21:36,730
I was nervous.

424
00:21:36,754 --> 00:21:38,982
Told Jamie that I'd
meet her in the bathroom

425
00:21:39,006 --> 00:21:42,819
at a certain time.

426
00:21:42,843 --> 00:21:47,491
SARAH: I felt the car stop,
the engine shut off,

427
00:21:47,515 --> 00:21:50,100
the door open and close.

428
00:21:52,645 --> 00:21:54,706
I walked in,
and I looked all around,

429
00:21:54,730 --> 00:21:57,375
you know, scoping out the people

430
00:21:57,399 --> 00:21:58,585
that was in the restaurant.

431
00:21:58,609 --> 00:22:00,504
[baby crying]

432
00:22:00,528 --> 00:22:02,130
I got to the bathroom.

433
00:22:02,154 --> 00:22:04,508
I seen some feet
underneath the stall.

434
00:22:04,532 --> 00:22:07,093
♪♪

435
00:22:07,117 --> 00:22:08,386
And I said, Jamie?

436
00:22:08,410 --> 00:22:11,056
♪♪

437
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,974
She said, yeah.

438
00:22:12,998 --> 00:22:15,435
I said, OK, I'm Peggy, you know.

439
00:22:15,459 --> 00:22:17,229
So I went in the next
stall beside her.

440
00:22:17,253 --> 00:22:20,315
And she handed me the money
underneath the little

441
00:22:20,339 --> 00:22:24,027
partition wall there.

442
00:22:24,051 --> 00:22:26,655
And then when I came
out of the bathroom,

443
00:22:26,679 --> 00:22:28,949
went up to the counter.

444
00:22:28,973 --> 00:22:31,952
And then that's when I seen
Jamie come out of the bathroom

445
00:22:31,976 --> 00:22:33,370
and leave the McDonald's.

446
00:22:33,394 --> 00:22:40,418
♪♪

447
00:22:40,442 --> 00:22:44,339
SARAH:
Jamie went home.

448
00:22:44,363 --> 00:22:46,591
Peggy got in the car,

449
00:22:46,615 --> 00:22:50,554
and we backed
out of the parking space.

450
00:22:50,578 --> 00:22:52,997
[engine revs]

451
00:22:54,915 --> 00:22:59,545
PEGGY: So I took her
to the Motel 8 on Shadeland.

452
00:23:04,383 --> 00:23:06,570
When I gave Sarah the money,

453
00:23:06,594 --> 00:23:08,905
I think she was
a little bit disappointed.

454
00:23:08,929 --> 00:23:13,451
♪♪

455
00:23:13,475 --> 00:23:17,539
Jamie only gave me $350.

456
00:23:17,563 --> 00:23:22,669
I was expecting about $3,500.

457
00:23:22,693 --> 00:23:27,007
Jamie was afraid
to bring the full amount.

458
00:23:27,031 --> 00:23:30,427
She was really worried about,
you know, getting caught.

459
00:23:30,451 --> 00:23:32,262
♪♪

460
00:23:32,286 --> 00:23:37,267
And now I just had to wait,
hoping that she would

461
00:23:37,291 --> 00:23:41,104
give me the rest of the money
at a later date.

462
00:23:41,128 --> 00:23:42,439
♪♪

463
00:23:42,463 --> 00:23:46,359
But my gut emotion was fear.

464
00:23:46,383 --> 00:23:51,948
I knew that the possibility was
there for her to be arrested.

465
00:23:51,972 --> 00:23:54,934
♪♪

466
00:23:57,019 --> 00:24:00,040
[tense music]

467
00:24:00,064 --> 00:24:07,071
♪♪

468
00:24:08,238 --> 00:24:12,093
RYAN: I went straight
to Jamie's house.

469
00:24:12,117 --> 00:24:14,638
And when she came to the door,

470
00:24:14,662 --> 00:24:18,183
you could see
that she was concerned.

471
00:24:18,207 --> 00:24:21,519
[door creaks]

472
00:24:21,543 --> 00:24:24,439
I identify myself
with the US Marshals.

473
00:24:24,463 --> 00:24:27,484
She was, um,
I have nothing to say,

474
00:24:27,508 --> 00:24:28,902
basically, out of the box.

475
00:24:28,926 --> 00:24:30,028
She wasn't cooperative.

476
00:24:30,052 --> 00:24:31,905
I was very open
and honest with Jamie.

477
00:24:31,929 --> 00:24:33,573
Hey, Jamie, you know
you're in trouble.

478
00:24:33,597 --> 00:24:35,033
And you know you're gonna...
you know,

479
00:24:35,057 --> 00:24:37,160
Spitler is already arrested,
but it's gonna happen.

480
00:24:37,184 --> 00:24:39,829
You know it's gonna happen.

481
00:24:39,853 --> 00:24:44,125
But she told me... she goes,
I don't know where she's at.

482
00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:46,461
She's somewhere on
the east side of Indianapolis.

483
00:24:46,485 --> 00:24:48,421
I can call her for you.

484
00:24:48,445 --> 00:24:51,049
Did that surprise me?

485
00:24:51,073 --> 00:24:53,093
It did.
But I was rolling with it.

486
00:24:53,117 --> 00:24:57,097
♪♪

487
00:24:57,121 --> 00:24:58,890
[phone ringing]

488
00:24:58,914 --> 00:25:03,937
SARAH: The phone rang,
and it was Jamie.

489
00:25:03,961 --> 00:25:06,731
She answered.

490
00:25:06,755 --> 00:25:10,860
I knew something
was off immediately.

491
00:25:10,884 --> 00:25:13,488
♪♪

492
00:25:13,512 --> 00:25:18,618
Jamie sounded panicked.

493
00:25:18,642 --> 00:25:22,622
She had a lot more
to lose than I did.

494
00:25:22,646 --> 00:25:25,667
RYAN: Now, the conversation
was not free-flowing.

495
00:25:25,691 --> 00:25:28,044
Jamie was like,
what's up, Sarah?

496
00:25:28,068 --> 00:25:30,880
How you doing?

497
00:25:30,904 --> 00:25:33,800
She said that she needed
to meet me in the parking lot

498
00:25:33,824 --> 00:25:35,510
where she dropped me off.

499
00:25:35,534 --> 00:25:37,846
I knew that she hadn't dropped
me off in the parking lot,

500
00:25:37,870 --> 00:25:42,392
so I told her, OK, well,
I'm already out at the farm.

501
00:25:42,416 --> 00:25:43,727
RYAN:
And Sarah was like,

502
00:25:43,751 --> 00:25:45,562
well, I'm waking up
at the farmhouse,

503
00:25:45,586 --> 00:25:47,647
and it's nice to have
breakfast with the farmer

504
00:25:47,671 --> 00:25:49,190
out in the country.

505
00:25:49,214 --> 00:25:50,984
It was weird stuff.

506
00:25:51,008 --> 00:25:53,319
Right away, I thought,
they're playing games.

507
00:25:53,343 --> 00:25:55,447
♪♪

508
00:25:55,471 --> 00:25:57,866
I knew that either
the police were there

509
00:25:57,890 --> 00:26:01,244
or they were listening in.

510
00:26:01,268 --> 00:26:02,746
RYAN:
But then Sarah hung up.

511
00:26:02,770 --> 00:26:05,540
[phone beeps]

512
00:26:05,564 --> 00:26:07,792
It was very quick.

513
00:26:07,816 --> 00:26:09,461
My profile of her
started to form, like,

514
00:26:09,485 --> 00:26:11,880
that she's not stupid;
she's very smart

515
00:26:11,904 --> 00:26:14,174
and that she's controlling
her communications now

516
00:26:14,198 --> 00:26:15,675
and she's not sloppy with it.

517
00:26:15,699 --> 00:26:16,801
This is gonna be a challenge.

518
00:26:16,825 --> 00:26:19,763
♪♪

519
00:26:19,787 --> 00:26:21,848
It was frustrating because,
you know, Jamie here

520
00:26:21,872 --> 00:26:24,851
was still not cooperative.

521
00:26:24,875 --> 00:26:27,604
So how do I get her
to cooperate with me?

522
00:26:27,628 --> 00:26:32,066
I want her to really grasp on
to, you know, I'm fucked.

523
00:26:32,090 --> 00:26:35,820
She had a husband with her
inside, a very old, frail man.

524
00:26:35,844 --> 00:26:38,740
His name was Larry.

525
00:26:38,764 --> 00:26:42,285
You could tell that he was
on his last weeks of life.

526
00:26:42,309 --> 00:26:43,995
And she was caring for him.

527
00:26:44,019 --> 00:26:45,789
He had oxygen
and medicines everywhere.

528
00:26:45,813 --> 00:26:50,627
But that was good,
because I knew

529
00:26:50,651 --> 00:26:52,504
that she was his caregiver.

530
00:26:52,528 --> 00:26:54,631
[respirator hissing]

531
00:26:54,655 --> 00:26:57,300
And I told him, I said,
Jamie will get charged.

532
00:26:57,324 --> 00:26:58,968
Understand that.

533
00:26:58,992 --> 00:27:00,845
But I won't lock
her up right now

534
00:27:00,869 --> 00:27:02,454
if you can get her to help me.

535
00:27:04,122 --> 00:27:05,558
And he was nervous.

536
00:27:05,582 --> 00:27:08,061
He was like, yeah,

537
00:27:08,085 --> 00:27:09,354
but she's not
gonna cooperate with you.

538
00:27:09,378 --> 00:27:10,522
I was like, well,
you need to talk

539
00:27:10,546 --> 00:27:11,689
some fucking sense into her.

540
00:27:11,713 --> 00:27:13,566
I mean, she's your caregiver.

541
00:27:13,590 --> 00:27:16,569
I mean, you don't want to lose
your caregiver, do you?

542
00:27:16,593 --> 00:27:20,657
He goes, no, and he cried.

543
00:27:20,681 --> 00:27:22,700
And then Jamie had
a different tone with me.

544
00:27:22,724 --> 00:27:24,577
♪♪

545
00:27:24,601 --> 00:27:27,330
She was very, very scared.

546
00:27:27,354 --> 00:27:30,500
She's like, follow me upstairs.

547
00:27:30,524 --> 00:27:32,126
I went upstairs in her room.

548
00:27:32,150 --> 00:27:34,838
And she gave me a shoe box.

549
00:27:34,862 --> 00:27:37,757
And the shoe box had
all the money in there

550
00:27:37,781 --> 00:27:41,344
that Sarah wanted to get.

551
00:27:41,368 --> 00:27:42,971
That was a huge thing
to give to me

552
00:27:42,995 --> 00:27:45,056
because right away,
that took... you know,

553
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,474
we took off her means.

554
00:27:46,498 --> 00:27:48,935
We got something
that she really needed.

555
00:27:48,959 --> 00:27:51,396
♪♪

556
00:27:51,420 --> 00:27:53,356
I mean, she was choked.

557
00:27:53,380 --> 00:27:54,983
Who was she gonna turn to?

558
00:27:55,007 --> 00:27:56,717
I mean, now what?

559
00:28:00,429 --> 00:28:02,448
REPORTER:
Deputy Prosecutor Larry Sells

560
00:28:02,472 --> 00:28:06,744
once called Sarah Jo Pender
the female Charles Manson.

561
00:28:06,768 --> 00:28:08,955
SARAH:
When I was in the hotel,

562
00:28:08,979 --> 00:28:10,456
I changed phones.

563
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,627
I broke the old phone
and, uh, started up the new.

564
00:28:14,651 --> 00:28:16,629
PERSON: I don't know
what happened in that house.

565
00:28:16,653 --> 00:28:18,590
Like you said,
only two people knew.

566
00:28:18,614 --> 00:28:20,091
[scissors snipping]

567
00:28:20,115 --> 00:28:26,306
SARAH: I cut my hair
significantly shorter

568
00:28:26,330 --> 00:28:32,020
and dyed it a darker color.

569
00:28:32,044 --> 00:28:33,521
And that's when
I started thinking

570
00:28:33,545 --> 00:28:35,356
about all the things that I wish

571
00:28:35,380 --> 00:28:37,108
I had done differently...

572
00:28:37,132 --> 00:28:40,945
[somber music]

573
00:28:40,969 --> 00:28:43,948
All the choices
that I made that I regret.

574
00:28:43,972 --> 00:28:45,617
♪♪

575
00:28:45,641 --> 00:28:48,620
[tense music]

576
00:28:48,644 --> 00:28:49,787
♪♪

577
00:28:49,811 --> 00:28:52,415
Once I went off to college,

578
00:28:52,439 --> 00:28:56,210
I did not spend enough time
on my studies,

579
00:28:56,234 --> 00:28:59,839
and, um...
and so my grades suffered.

580
00:28:59,863 --> 00:29:01,925
Um,

581
00:29:01,949 --> 00:29:07,555
I had... I had failed enough to
where I decided not to go back.

582
00:29:07,579 --> 00:29:09,849
♪♪

583
00:29:09,873 --> 00:29:15,229
I felt ashamed that I
could not complete college.

584
00:29:15,253 --> 00:29:17,649
I did not have an excuse,
because I knew

585
00:29:17,673 --> 00:29:20,109
that I was smart enough.

586
00:29:20,133 --> 00:29:25,239
But despite the fact
I was academically talented,

587
00:29:25,263 --> 00:29:29,744
I did not feel a great sense
of self-worth from it.

588
00:29:29,768 --> 00:29:35,792
My self-worth really came from
making other people happy.

589
00:29:35,816 --> 00:29:39,337
I think that started
after my mom left.

590
00:29:39,361 --> 00:29:43,591
♪♪

591
00:29:43,615 --> 00:29:46,761
When Sarah was six, Roland and I

592
00:29:46,785 --> 00:29:49,222
sat there and tried to explain

593
00:29:49,246 --> 00:29:51,182
that I wasn't going to be there.

594
00:29:51,206 --> 00:29:54,310
We were going to divorce.

595
00:29:54,334 --> 00:29:56,312
♪♪

596
00:29:56,336 --> 00:29:59,524
I didn't have anything
to offer him at the time.

597
00:29:59,548 --> 00:30:04,862
And so I let him
have the children

598
00:30:04,886 --> 00:30:08,116
until I could better myself.

599
00:30:08,140 --> 00:30:10,660
♪♪

600
00:30:10,684 --> 00:30:13,913
ROLAND: Sarah never got
in trouble growing up.

601
00:30:13,937 --> 00:30:16,040
But, um, I think
it was difficult...

602
00:30:16,064 --> 00:30:18,001
it was very difficult on her.

603
00:30:18,025 --> 00:30:20,795
Um, and there wasn't
much of anything

604
00:30:20,819 --> 00:30:24,590
available in the way
of any kind of support.

605
00:30:24,614 --> 00:30:27,927
They didn't understand
why I wasn't there.

606
00:30:27,951 --> 00:30:29,762
♪♪

607
00:30:29,786 --> 00:30:34,392
My mother leaving
created a sense of abandonment.

608
00:30:34,416 --> 00:30:36,269
♪♪

609
00:30:36,293 --> 00:30:43,109
And so by the time I was 20,
I was afraid of being alone.

610
00:30:43,133 --> 00:30:47,572
I wanted someone to be there
to help me navigate life

611
00:30:47,596 --> 00:30:49,073
and also to love me.

612
00:30:49,097 --> 00:30:51,743
♪♪

613
00:30:51,767 --> 00:30:55,913
That was certainly the case
at the time that I met Rick.

614
00:30:55,937 --> 00:30:58,374
♪♪

615
00:30:58,398 --> 00:31:00,501
REPORTER 1: Pender was serving
time for a double murder

616
00:31:00,525 --> 00:31:02,462
in Marion County back in 2000.

617
00:31:02,486 --> 00:31:03,921
REPORTER 2:
Police came to believe

618
00:31:03,945 --> 00:31:07,258
that 22-year-old Richard Hull
was the likely murderer.

619
00:31:07,282 --> 00:31:08,551
REPORTER 3:
Hull eventually was sentenced

620
00:31:08,575 --> 00:31:10,303
to 90 years in prison.

621
00:31:10,327 --> 00:31:13,890
Investigators thought she was
the brains behind the killing.

622
00:31:13,914 --> 00:31:20,772
♪♪

623
00:31:20,796 --> 00:31:23,107
If I could go back
from the very first time

624
00:31:23,131 --> 00:31:25,568
that I met Sarah,
I would just leave.

625
00:31:25,592 --> 00:31:28,988
♪♪

626
00:31:29,012 --> 00:31:32,784
I mean, it cost me my family,
being with her.

627
00:31:32,808 --> 00:31:35,161
♪♪

628
00:31:35,185 --> 00:31:38,706
So no, yeah, there's... yeah,
I would definitely leave.

629
00:31:38,730 --> 00:31:41,667
♪♪

630
00:31:41,691 --> 00:31:44,837
We could always play
the what-if game.

631
00:31:44,861 --> 00:31:47,548
What if I would have turned
left instead of turning right?

632
00:31:47,572 --> 00:31:50,927
You know, I... I... I could
do that all day

633
00:31:50,951 --> 00:31:52,970
and beat myself up all day.

634
00:31:52,994 --> 00:31:57,016
♪♪

635
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,895
But I actually...
at one point in time,

636
00:32:00,919 --> 00:32:02,730
I could say that I did love her.

637
00:32:02,754 --> 00:32:05,733
[gentle music]

638
00:32:05,757 --> 00:32:07,318
♪♪

639
00:32:07,342 --> 00:32:10,655
What attracted me to Sarah was
her personality that she had.

640
00:32:10,679 --> 00:32:11,781
She was fun.

641
00:32:11,805 --> 00:32:13,157
She... she had
a good heart then.

642
00:32:13,181 --> 00:32:16,994
I mean, we... we had
a good relationship, I guess.

643
00:32:17,018 --> 00:32:18,621
I mean, it was...

644
00:32:18,645 --> 00:32:24,710
things kind of was a blur
and happened so fast.

645
00:32:24,734 --> 00:32:31,092
SARAH: When I met Rick, he was
both manly and sensitive.

646
00:32:31,116 --> 00:32:34,053
Rick put his arm around me,
and he said,

647
00:32:34,077 --> 00:32:36,931
stick with me, kid,
and I'll take care of you.

648
00:32:36,955 --> 00:32:40,268
And it felt so good.

649
00:32:40,292 --> 00:32:43,229
[somber music]

650
00:32:43,253 --> 00:32:45,857
♪♪

651
00:32:45,881 --> 00:32:51,112
Sarah told me, well,
I have a boyfriend.

652
00:32:51,136 --> 00:32:53,489
And I said, oh?

653
00:32:53,513 --> 00:32:56,367
I said, where'd the boyfriend
come from?

654
00:32:56,391 --> 00:32:58,411
Is he from Purdue, too,
and that?

655
00:32:58,435 --> 00:32:59,745
And she goes, no.

656
00:32:59,769 --> 00:33:02,748
She told me his name
was Richard Hull.

657
00:33:02,772 --> 00:33:05,793
[tense music]

658
00:33:05,817 --> 00:33:08,546
I said, is he good to you?

659
00:33:08,570 --> 00:33:12,633
She said, yes, Mom,
and he loves me,

660
00:33:12,657 --> 00:33:14,010
and he's my protector.

661
00:33:14,034 --> 00:33:17,138
♪♪

662
00:33:17,162 --> 00:33:20,433
SARAH: In the beginning,
Rick told me that he

663
00:33:20,457 --> 00:33:24,520
worked at a carpet-cleaning
business.

664
00:33:24,544 --> 00:33:28,149
♪♪

665
00:33:28,173 --> 00:33:31,819
It wasn't long after that that
I found out that his real job

666
00:33:31,843 --> 00:33:34,697
was dealing drugs.

667
00:33:34,721 --> 00:33:37,450
When she first met me,
she knew I was into the,

668
00:33:37,474 --> 00:33:40,036
you know, business,
in the drug business.

669
00:33:40,060 --> 00:33:43,456
So it wasn't, like, a huge
surprise to her, you know.

670
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,167
I mean, that's what we were
out there doing

671
00:33:46,191 --> 00:33:48,127
was having a big old party.

672
00:33:48,151 --> 00:33:51,547
♪♪

673
00:33:51,571 --> 00:33:52,965
SARAH:
I was very smitten.

674
00:33:52,989 --> 00:33:59,138
And I felt like
it was an adventure.

675
00:33:59,162 --> 00:34:05,311
♪♪

676
00:34:05,335 --> 00:34:07,647
After a few weeks together,

677
00:34:07,671 --> 00:34:10,733
Rick told me
that his friend Drew

678
00:34:10,757 --> 00:34:12,944
and Drew's girlfriend, Trish,

679
00:34:12,968 --> 00:34:17,323
were traveling from Nevada

680
00:34:17,347 --> 00:34:22,745
and needed a place to stay
for a little while.

681
00:34:22,769 --> 00:34:25,831
Rick made it clear
that the less that I knew,

682
00:34:25,855 --> 00:34:28,501
the better off that I was.

683
00:34:28,525 --> 00:34:33,130
They looked like any two
normal hippie couple.

684
00:34:33,154 --> 00:34:35,800
♪♪

685
00:34:35,824 --> 00:34:38,844
We found a house
on South Maple Street.

686
00:34:38,868 --> 00:34:41,681
We all moved in together.

687
00:34:41,705 --> 00:34:48,020
I had no frame of reference
for what might happen.

688
00:34:48,044 --> 00:34:53,526
All I knew is that I wanted to
be loved and to stay in that...

689
00:34:53,550 --> 00:34:57,488
that loving relationship.

690
00:34:57,512 --> 00:35:01,075
I really had this vision that
we would move to the suburbs

691
00:35:01,099 --> 00:35:06,163
and get a small house,
a picket fence, a dog,

692
00:35:06,187 --> 00:35:08,666
you know, start living
the American dream

693
00:35:08,690 --> 00:35:10,960
just like anyone else.

694
00:35:10,984 --> 00:35:12,712
♪♪

695
00:35:12,736 --> 00:35:16,173
But it was like
two different worlds.

696
00:35:16,197 --> 00:35:18,759
I would party with Rick
on the weekends

697
00:35:18,783 --> 00:35:24,348
and then sober up on Sunday
and go to work on Monday.

698
00:35:24,372 --> 00:35:28,894
While I went to work
at a construction company,

699
00:35:28,918 --> 00:35:32,315
Drew and Rick would deal drugs.

700
00:35:32,339 --> 00:35:36,027
♪♪

701
00:35:36,051 --> 00:35:39,780
RICHARD: We actually used
to drive around

702
00:35:39,804 --> 00:35:42,783
Indianapolis
and throughout Noblesville.

703
00:35:42,807 --> 00:35:44,452
And if you've ever seen
that movie.

704
00:35:44,476 --> 00:35:46,996
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
with Johnny Depp,

705
00:35:47,020 --> 00:35:49,248
when they're carrying around

706
00:35:49,272 --> 00:35:51,083
a... a little suitcase
full of drug...

707
00:35:51,107 --> 00:35:54,128
you know, a briefcase
full of drugs, that was us.

708
00:35:54,152 --> 00:35:56,130
You know, I used
to tell people, man,

709
00:35:56,154 --> 00:35:58,632
we got uppers, downers, inners,
outers, and all-arounders.

710
00:35:58,656 --> 00:36:01,510
Whatever you want,
it's there, you know.

711
00:36:01,534 --> 00:36:04,597
♪♪

712
00:36:04,621 --> 00:36:07,808
BONNIE:
I didn't get good vibes.

713
00:36:07,832 --> 00:36:12,021
I thought, OK, they're...
they're dealing drugs.

714
00:36:12,045 --> 00:36:15,149
It frightened me a little.

715
00:36:15,173 --> 00:36:21,906
I just had this
tremendous urge to...

716
00:36:21,930 --> 00:36:24,283
put her in the car, take off.

717
00:36:24,307 --> 00:36:26,660
♪♪

718
00:36:26,684 --> 00:36:30,414
And you have
that overwhelming feeling...

719
00:36:30,438 --> 00:36:33,250
I need to get her out of here.

720
00:36:33,274 --> 00:36:36,337
But it didn't turn out that way.

721
00:36:36,361 --> 00:36:39,048
♪♪

722
00:36:39,072 --> 00:36:40,549
[siren wails]

723
00:36:40,573 --> 00:36:42,635
REPORTER: The victims,
a white man and a woman,

724
00:36:42,659 --> 00:36:44,637
were discovered
last night in a dumpster

725
00:36:44,661 --> 00:36:46,097
behind the Teamsters Hall

726
00:36:46,121 --> 00:36:48,349
in the 800 block
of South Meridian.

727
00:36:48,373 --> 00:36:50,851
25-year-old Andrew Cataldi...

728
00:36:50,875 --> 00:36:53,896
he and his girlfriend,
26-year-old Tricia Nordman,

729
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,107
had been shot to death.

730
00:36:56,131 --> 00:36:58,776
Investigators knew
to search their house

731
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,778
on South Michael street.

732
00:37:00,802 --> 00:37:03,888
Police think that's
where the couple died.

733
00:37:07,183 --> 00:37:08,160
REPORTER:
Two hours ago,

734
00:37:08,184 --> 00:37:09,578
a US Marshal-led task force

735
00:37:09,602 --> 00:37:12,748
apprehended Indiana's
second-most-wanted suspect,

736
00:37:12,772 --> 00:37:15,042
the alleged person
who drove the getaway car

737
00:37:15,066 --> 00:37:17,002
for a twice-convicted killer.

738
00:37:17,026 --> 00:37:20,506
Ma'am, anything you want
to say about your situation?

739
00:37:20,530 --> 00:37:23,300
Did you drive Sarah Pender
from prison?

740
00:37:23,324 --> 00:37:26,011
The marshals arrested
42-year-old Jamie Long

741
00:37:26,035 --> 00:37:27,972
on a charge of aiding an escape.

742
00:37:27,996 --> 00:37:29,598
[tense music]

743
00:37:29,622 --> 00:37:31,600
RYAN: Jamie knew
the consequences.

744
00:37:31,624 --> 00:37:34,437
♪♪

745
00:37:34,461 --> 00:37:37,815
That loyalty and obedience
is... is... is mind-blowing,

746
00:37:37,839 --> 00:37:39,692
is bizarre.

747
00:37:39,716 --> 00:37:44,363
But she was that madly
in love with her.

748
00:37:44,387 --> 00:37:46,157
♪♪

749
00:37:46,181 --> 00:37:48,325
I'm not the first person
to say that Sarah Pender

750
00:37:48,349 --> 00:37:50,911
is a manipulator.

751
00:37:50,935 --> 00:37:52,246
There's a common theme.

752
00:37:52,270 --> 00:37:56,417
She gets people to do things
that aren't normal.

753
00:37:56,441 --> 00:38:00,629
She gets people to do things
that land them in prison.

754
00:38:00,653 --> 00:38:07,511
♪♪

755
00:38:07,535 --> 00:38:10,055
I needed intelligence.

756
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:12,099
There was one piece of evidence
that was given to me

757
00:38:12,123 --> 00:38:14,518
very early on, is,
they gave me the phone number

758
00:38:14,542 --> 00:38:17,104
of the phone that she had
while she was in prison.

759
00:38:17,128 --> 00:38:19,023
♪♪

760
00:38:19,047 --> 00:38:21,984
I got the cell phone records.

761
00:38:22,008 --> 00:38:24,862
I saw the name Peggy.

762
00:38:24,886 --> 00:38:28,324
She was up there in the top 10.

763
00:38:28,348 --> 00:38:31,577
Peggy's address came back
to the house in Indianapolis.

764
00:38:31,601 --> 00:38:36,832
♪♪

765
00:38:36,856 --> 00:38:39,001
You know, you live in
a neighborhood all your life,

766
00:38:39,025 --> 00:38:42,546
you know your neighbors.

767
00:38:42,570 --> 00:38:47,843
There was a strange truck
parked down the street.

768
00:38:47,867 --> 00:38:49,970
[engine turning over]

769
00:38:49,994 --> 00:38:53,015
And then me
and my daughter left.

770
00:38:53,039 --> 00:38:55,100
[dog barking]

771
00:38:55,124 --> 00:38:58,145
And I noticed that truck
was following us.

772
00:38:58,169 --> 00:39:03,150
♪♪

773
00:39:03,174 --> 00:39:06,695
Me and my daughter pulled up
at my sister's house.

774
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,032
The truck pulled up
behind us in the driveway.

775
00:39:10,056 --> 00:39:13,494
And then when I actually
got out of the car,

776
00:39:13,518 --> 00:39:18,290
I looked and I seen the street
was full of cop cars.

777
00:39:18,314 --> 00:39:19,959
[siren wails]
OFFICER: Freeze!

778
00:39:19,983 --> 00:39:23,504
And then the Marshal...

779
00:39:23,528 --> 00:39:25,506
they all had their guns out.

780
00:39:25,530 --> 00:39:27,299
OFFICER:
Put your hands up!

781
00:39:27,323 --> 00:39:30,219
PEGGY:
I was frightened.

782
00:39:30,243 --> 00:39:33,013
I told my daughter
to get in the house.

783
00:39:33,037 --> 00:39:34,473
Don't stop.

784
00:39:34,497 --> 00:39:36,517
And they tried... they yelled
at her, told her to stop.

785
00:39:36,541 --> 00:39:39,687
And I told her, no,
you get in the house.

786
00:39:39,711 --> 00:39:42,815
-You know what?
-That's what they pay me to do.

787
00:39:42,839 --> 00:39:44,608
You can't be a pussy
and do this...

788
00:39:44,632 --> 00:39:46,735
OFFICER:
Get on the ground!

789
00:39:46,759 --> 00:39:48,404
RYAN: Because you can't
handle these people

790
00:39:48,428 --> 00:39:49,572
with soft kid gloves.

791
00:39:49,596 --> 00:39:51,907
You can't.

792
00:39:51,931 --> 00:39:56,996
US Marshal Ryan Harmon,

793
00:39:57,020 --> 00:40:00,291
he just portrayed hisself

794
00:40:00,315 --> 00:40:06,714
to be just, like,
a big, bad guy, like, you know,

795
00:40:06,738 --> 00:40:09,258
I'm gonna get your friend
no matter what.

796
00:40:09,282 --> 00:40:11,176
♪♪

797
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:15,681
They went in and searched
upstairs and downstairs

798
00:40:15,705 --> 00:40:18,892
looking for Sarah.

799
00:40:18,916 --> 00:40:21,520
They didn't look like they
were too happy that they

800
00:40:21,544 --> 00:40:23,355
couldn't find her there.

801
00:40:23,379 --> 00:40:25,941
♪♪

802
00:40:25,965 --> 00:40:29,278
They asked me if I knew
where Sarah Pender was.

803
00:40:29,302 --> 00:40:32,072
[indistinct
police radio chatter]

804
00:40:32,096 --> 00:40:39,038
I was a nervous wreck
'cause I didn't know...

805
00:40:39,062 --> 00:40:41,373
I didn't know
what to say or really do.

806
00:40:41,397 --> 00:40:43,918
♪♪

807
00:40:43,942 --> 00:40:47,171
Peggy was a...

808
00:40:47,195 --> 00:40:53,010
a very wiry, nervous,
"oh, shit" kind of a person.

809
00:40:53,034 --> 00:40:54,803
[sighs]

810
00:40:54,827 --> 00:40:56,722
♪♪

811
00:40:56,746 --> 00:40:59,475
RYAN: Which was good.
Just do what's right.

812
00:40:59,499 --> 00:41:03,062
♪♪

813
00:41:03,086 --> 00:41:04,188
Wow.

814
00:41:04,212 --> 00:41:06,148
This brings up
a lot of memories.

815
00:41:06,172 --> 00:41:07,149
And she did.

816
00:41:07,173 --> 00:41:11,236
♪♪

817
00:41:11,260 --> 00:41:13,572
SARAH:
I was laying on the bed,

818
00:41:13,596 --> 00:41:16,241
and I was thinking that I had

819
00:41:16,265 --> 00:41:20,537
to get out of that motel room.

820
00:41:20,561 --> 00:41:22,706
Suddenly there was
a knock on the door.

821
00:41:22,730 --> 00:41:24,375
[knock at door]

822
00:41:24,399 --> 00:41:27,211
My heart dropped to the floor.

823
00:41:27,235 --> 00:41:29,546
Nobody would be knocking
on the door.

824
00:41:29,570 --> 00:41:31,215
I don't want to go back
to prison.

825
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,425
♪♪

826
00:41:33,449 --> 00:41:36,470
I thought, holy shit.

827
00:41:36,494 --> 00:41:39,473
[dramatic music]

828
00:41:39,497 --> 00:41:46,462
♪♪

