1 00:00:02,416 --> 00:00:04,521 [music] 2 00:00:08,077 --> 00:00:09,216 Yes. 3 00:00:09,630 --> 00:00:13,254 We have a plethora of photo albums 4 00:00:13,358 --> 00:00:17,431 and I have 10 scrapbooks 5 00:00:17,534 --> 00:00:22,022 that are full of finished pages with no pictures 6 00:00:22,401 --> 00:00:24,783 because pictures are hard. 7 00:00:26,371 --> 00:00:28,545 There's my Christina. 8 00:00:30,168 --> 00:00:34,379 There she is, playing with her sisters. 9 00:00:36,588 --> 00:00:38,762 I've lost track of where I was going. 10 00:00:38,866 --> 00:00:42,042 It's distracting even seeing them. 11 00:00:42,490 --> 00:00:46,908 Over time, I've gone over the stages of grief. 12 00:00:47,357 --> 00:00:51,016 But I don't believe, even now, 13 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,330 that I necessarily accept her death. 14 00:00:55,572 --> 00:01:00,370 I needed to hold someone accountable for her death. 15 00:01:01,233 --> 00:01:04,857 We all knew something bad just happened to her, 16 00:01:04,961 --> 00:01:06,997 this isn't natural. 17 00:01:07,274 --> 00:01:10,484 So we investigated, bought books, 18 00:01:10,587 --> 00:01:12,796 and learned as much as we could. 19 00:01:13,142 --> 00:01:15,075 This is like a travesty of justice. 20 00:01:16,283 --> 00:01:18,940 September 29th, 2014, it just... 21 00:01:19,424 --> 00:01:21,874 Is that even a real day? I don't know. 22 00:01:22,461 --> 00:01:23,980 I think the whole day stands out. 23 00:01:24,084 --> 00:01:25,740 It just seems surreal. 24 00:01:26,983 --> 00:01:28,260 [Katrina] I just think of this on 25 00:01:28,364 --> 00:01:29,744 the day the lights went out in Georgia, 26 00:01:29,848 --> 00:01:32,126 it's like the day the lights weren't out, 27 00:01:32,230 --> 00:01:38,132 like the world stopped, September 29th, 2014. 28 00:01:38,512 --> 00:01:42,516 It halted and stayed there, and it's still there. 29 00:01:44,518 --> 00:01:49,281 I feel like the Earth jolted on its axis 30 00:01:49,385 --> 00:01:50,765 and it's just stuck. 31 00:02:00,258 --> 00:02:05,021 My name is Katrina Sharon and I am the middle sister 32 00:02:05,332 --> 00:02:06,781 to Christina Harris. 33 00:02:06,885 --> 00:02:08,335 My name's Patricia Hutchinson 34 00:02:08,438 --> 00:02:11,234 and I am the youngest sister of Christina Harris. 35 00:02:11,648 --> 00:02:13,443 [Katrina] Christina is the oldest. 36 00:02:13,547 --> 00:02:15,480 I am five years younger, 37 00:02:15,583 --> 00:02:19,760 and Patricia is eight years younger than Christy. 38 00:02:22,521 --> 00:02:25,490 We were a rowdy group of girls. 39 00:02:26,042 --> 00:02:28,907 I was roughly three years old, 40 00:02:29,010 --> 00:02:34,430 and I remember finding this really long lip gloss, 41 00:02:34,533 --> 00:02:36,984 and it was strawberry flavored. 42 00:02:37,087 --> 00:02:39,676 And so I asked Christy what it was. 43 00:02:39,883 --> 00:02:42,092 And she said to me, 44 00:02:42,196 --> 00:02:44,198 "Oh, you know what that's for? 45 00:02:44,302 --> 00:02:48,720 That's to make your feet smell like strawberries." 46 00:02:49,341 --> 00:02:51,136 So at three years old, 47 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,209 I'm rubbing this on the bottom of my bare feet, 48 00:02:55,313 --> 00:02:59,489 and come to find out that was Mom's lip gloss. 49 00:02:59,593 --> 00:03:00,594 [laughing] 50 00:03:00,697 --> 00:03:02,458 [Patricia] Hopefully she didn't use it after. 51 00:03:02,561 --> 00:03:04,114 She did is what I'm telling you. 52 00:03:04,218 --> 00:03:08,429 [Patricia] Oh. Oh. Egh, gross. 53 00:03:09,982 --> 00:03:12,675 [James] Christy was just very independent, 54 00:03:12,778 --> 00:03:13,538 very tenacious. 55 00:03:13,641 --> 00:03:14,884 When she learned to ride her bike, 56 00:03:14,987 --> 00:03:17,645 she spent the whole day, wrecking the in backyard. 57 00:03:17,749 --> 00:03:20,130 And by the end of the day, she could ride her bike. 58 00:03:20,234 --> 00:03:22,547 And, of course, her knees were all scraped and dirty, 59 00:03:22,650 --> 00:03:24,273 but she didn't seem to care. 60 00:03:24,376 --> 00:03:26,723 She had accomplished her goal. 61 00:03:29,761 --> 00:03:32,936 [Kathy] We are at one of her favorite places on Earth. 62 00:03:33,592 --> 00:03:37,217 It's Pratt Lake, Gladwin, Michigan, 63 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,496 at her grandparents' lake house 64 00:03:40,910 --> 00:03:45,052 that she spent summers when she was a child 65 00:03:45,328 --> 00:03:48,366 and occasionally when she was a grownup. 66 00:03:50,885 --> 00:03:53,716 When Christy met Jason, she was 21. 67 00:03:54,786 --> 00:03:56,546 [Patricia] When they started dating, 68 00:03:56,650 --> 00:03:58,583 he seemed to be good with Christy. 69 00:03:58,686 --> 00:04:01,758 They like similar things. They like rock music. 70 00:04:02,449 --> 00:04:04,416 [Katrina] I was Christy's maid of honor 71 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,418 for her wedding. 72 00:04:07,039 --> 00:04:11,596 It was one of Christy's most favorite days ever. 73 00:04:11,699 --> 00:04:15,462 And that's because she was the center of attention. 74 00:04:16,980 --> 00:04:20,950 Christy's always wanted to be married, have kids, 75 00:04:21,053 --> 00:04:23,263 and basically have the white picket fence, 76 00:04:23,366 --> 00:04:24,816 that whole story. 77 00:04:29,683 --> 00:04:31,961 [Kathy] When Christy got pregnant, 78 00:04:32,064 --> 00:04:34,584 she was over the moon 79 00:04:34,688 --> 00:04:38,001 because this was an experience, yeah, of her dreams. 80 00:04:38,105 --> 00:04:40,280 It was finally happening for her. 81 00:04:40,970 --> 00:04:45,699 [Katrina] Hailey was born November 1st, 2009. 82 00:04:46,389 --> 00:04:52,050 Kaliann Jay was born on May 20th, 2014. 83 00:04:53,293 --> 00:04:54,742 [Kathy] She loved it, she was happy, 84 00:04:54,846 --> 00:04:59,264 and that was worth a million bucks right there. 85 00:04:59,368 --> 00:05:01,404 Is Christy happy? Then I'm happy. 86 00:05:05,891 --> 00:05:09,274 On September 29th, I was at my desk at work, 87 00:05:09,378 --> 00:05:11,794 and I got a phone call from Jason, 88 00:05:11,897 --> 00:05:13,278 Christy's husband. 89 00:05:13,382 --> 00:05:15,315 He said, "Come to the house now." 90 00:05:15,418 --> 00:05:17,869 And I was in the next town over. 91 00:05:18,525 --> 00:05:21,459 I was concerned about finding out what was going on 92 00:05:21,873 --> 00:05:24,393 because I had seen her the day before 93 00:05:24,496 --> 00:05:26,049 and she was fine. 94 00:05:26,774 --> 00:05:31,952 I trusted that Christy and the kids were safe 95 00:05:32,055 --> 00:05:33,471 with him. 96 00:05:34,851 --> 00:05:37,785 [James] I got in the car, drove to Christy's house, 97 00:05:37,889 --> 00:05:40,167 pulled in, parked in front of the house. 98 00:05:40,270 --> 00:05:42,134 There was an ambulance in the driveway. 99 00:05:42,583 --> 00:05:46,276 Jason was there, looking sad. 100 00:05:46,829 --> 00:05:49,314 So I went into the house, 101 00:05:49,935 --> 00:05:53,145 and Christy was laying in the bed with a blanket over her. 102 00:05:54,768 --> 00:05:57,046 And it was pretty much an out of body experience. 103 00:05:57,149 --> 00:05:58,530 It's just disbelief. 104 00:05:58,634 --> 00:06:01,326 It's literally like you're watching a movie of yourself 105 00:06:01,430 --> 00:06:04,640 and it's like, how do you react to this? 106 00:06:05,261 --> 00:06:07,332 [Kathy] I pulled up at the curb 107 00:06:07,436 --> 00:06:09,679 right across from the front door. 108 00:06:10,162 --> 00:06:14,753 And that's where Jim came out through the passenger side door 109 00:06:14,857 --> 00:06:17,929 and told me that Christy was gone. 110 00:06:21,035 --> 00:06:23,728 I got hysterical. 111 00:06:24,694 --> 00:06:27,076 I said, "This isn't true." 112 00:06:27,663 --> 00:06:31,114 And I'm like, "What is going on? What happened?" 113 00:06:31,460 --> 00:06:33,945 Jason was telling me 114 00:06:34,048 --> 00:06:38,018 that she was in bed and she didn't wake up, 115 00:06:38,363 --> 00:06:42,505 and the neighbor had found her. 116 00:06:42,816 --> 00:06:45,577 Jason was explaining to me 117 00:06:45,681 --> 00:06:47,717 that there had been some problems 118 00:06:47,821 --> 00:06:50,582 that, when breastfeeding, he didn't know 119 00:06:50,686 --> 00:06:54,724 how many times he had gotten her a glass of water 120 00:06:54,828 --> 00:06:58,176 and she would say it tasted chemically. 121 00:06:59,073 --> 00:07:01,006 At this day in time, 122 00:07:01,110 --> 00:07:04,285 what is breaking in our news, locally, 123 00:07:04,389 --> 00:07:07,047 is the Flint city water crisis. 124 00:07:08,980 --> 00:07:12,259 And I said, "Jason, you have well water, 125 00:07:12,362 --> 00:07:15,504 but you have Davison city well water. 126 00:07:15,607 --> 00:07:19,128 You do not have Flint well water. 127 00:07:19,231 --> 00:07:22,200 Your water should not be tasting chemically." 128 00:07:22,511 --> 00:07:25,375 I said, "That doesn't make sense." 129 00:07:25,479 --> 00:07:29,449 I was not buying this scenario. 130 00:07:29,932 --> 00:07:32,866 And then it hit me, what did he do? 131 00:07:36,110 --> 00:07:39,079 She's healthy, she's 36. 132 00:07:39,251 --> 00:07:40,563 She's a breastfeeding mother. 133 00:07:40,667 --> 00:07:44,049 She's been going to the doctor for nine months. 134 00:07:44,394 --> 00:07:46,535 And this isn't natural. 135 00:07:46,638 --> 00:07:49,676 This isn't natural for her not to just wake up. 136 00:07:50,746 --> 00:07:52,506 [Patricia] How did she not wake up? 137 00:07:53,231 --> 00:07:56,752 It was as though I didn't know how to process that information. 138 00:07:57,028 --> 00:07:59,409 [Katrina] My dad said, "You need to come home. 139 00:07:59,513 --> 00:08:00,963 It's Christy." 140 00:08:01,342 --> 00:08:03,241 I was in shock, driving, 141 00:08:03,344 --> 00:08:04,898 and started shaking, 142 00:08:05,001 --> 00:08:06,934 and didn't even know what to think. 143 00:08:07,452 --> 00:08:09,834 And so I called my best friend. 144 00:08:10,904 --> 00:08:14,424 [Stephany] I got a call from Katrina. 145 00:08:14,528 --> 00:08:18,946 And I just couldn't make out what she was saying at first. 146 00:08:19,568 --> 00:08:21,259 It was just, "Christy didn't wake up." 147 00:08:22,398 --> 00:08:24,055 I'm like, "What do you mean?" 148 00:08:24,158 --> 00:08:25,781 Nothing made sense. 149 00:08:26,367 --> 00:08:30,682 [Katrina] And she's like, "How the eff does that happen?" 150 00:08:30,786 --> 00:08:32,822 And that sentence 151 00:08:32,926 --> 00:08:38,759 is what got me out of my crying, emotional, 152 00:08:38,863 --> 00:08:40,520 and I was able to focus. 153 00:08:40,623 --> 00:08:43,005 And I was like, "Yeah, how does that happen?" 154 00:08:49,045 --> 00:08:52,773 [music] 155 00:08:52,877 --> 00:08:55,604 I couldn't process anything in the moment that day. 156 00:08:56,777 --> 00:08:59,539 [Katrina] I feel like, when I look back on the day, 157 00:08:59,642 --> 00:09:02,507 we weren't just a mourning family. 158 00:09:03,197 --> 00:09:07,823 We were screaming that this is not right. 159 00:09:08,375 --> 00:09:11,654 [Patricia] My mom immediately just flipped a switch 160 00:09:11,758 --> 00:09:14,381 and was like, "Okay, we gotta pursue this 161 00:09:14,484 --> 00:09:16,245 'cause this didn't happen naturally." 162 00:09:20,525 --> 00:09:24,702 I could not get the medical examiner 163 00:09:25,461 --> 00:09:28,533 to sync up with me. 164 00:09:29,051 --> 00:09:30,846 And I'm standing there, telling him, 165 00:09:30,949 --> 00:09:33,193 "She's a breastfeeding mother. She's healthy. 166 00:09:33,296 --> 00:09:36,127 I seen her yesterday. She wasn't feeling bad. 167 00:09:36,230 --> 00:09:37,404 This makes no sense. 168 00:09:37,507 --> 00:09:39,682 Why would a healthy 36-year-old 169 00:09:39,786 --> 00:09:41,926 just not wake up in the morning?" 170 00:09:42,029 --> 00:09:46,862 And Jason is standing there, listening to these conversations 171 00:09:46,965 --> 00:09:49,243 and participating with this conversation 172 00:09:49,347 --> 00:09:51,004 with the medical examiner. 173 00:09:57,355 --> 00:10:00,565 There was absolutely no doubt in my mind 174 00:10:00,669 --> 00:10:03,499 that this was not a natural cause. 175 00:10:03,603 --> 00:10:06,433 [Stephany] It was just wrong. Everything sounded wrong. 176 00:10:06,536 --> 00:10:11,093 So that's when we all headed over to Jim and Kathy's. 177 00:10:12,473 --> 00:10:16,995 [Kathy] We were all sitting here in the living room, 178 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,171 asking the questions, how could this happen? 179 00:10:21,310 --> 00:10:24,244 [Katrina] I had been trying to figure out, 180 00:10:24,347 --> 00:10:25,797 what's the cause? 181 00:10:25,901 --> 00:10:27,730 So I just said, 182 00:10:27,834 --> 00:10:30,595 "What's everybody's conspiracy theory?" 183 00:10:31,354 --> 00:10:34,426 [Kathy] I said, "Before Christy passed away, 184 00:10:34,806 --> 00:10:36,774 she called me one day 185 00:10:36,877 --> 00:10:41,192 and she said Jason was texting other women." 186 00:10:43,159 --> 00:10:47,439 She sent me a copy of the phone record. 187 00:10:47,854 --> 00:10:49,476 He transcribed all the text messages. 188 00:10:49,579 --> 00:10:50,891 I transcribed all the text messages. 189 00:10:50,995 --> 00:10:52,962 I saw the length that Jason went. 190 00:10:53,066 --> 00:10:55,516 I mean, Christy pulled phone records 191 00:10:55,620 --> 00:10:58,002 and there was thousands of texts 192 00:10:58,105 --> 00:11:00,142 between him and these other women. 193 00:11:02,869 --> 00:11:05,803 That she was worth more dead than alive. 194 00:11:08,944 --> 00:11:11,601 [Kathy] And I said, "What happens 195 00:11:11,705 --> 00:11:14,087 if he had done something?" 196 00:11:14,570 --> 00:11:16,227 There was quiet. 197 00:11:17,642 --> 00:11:20,610 [Katrina] Even knowing that the relationship was rocky, 198 00:11:20,921 --> 00:11:23,924 I did not go mentally to foul play 199 00:11:24,028 --> 00:11:25,477 like my mom had done. 200 00:11:28,377 --> 00:11:31,725 I was 16 years old when I met Jason. 201 00:11:32,174 --> 00:11:34,694 He was introduced to us as Jay. 202 00:11:35,487 --> 00:11:37,904 I would go hang out at Christy's house, 203 00:11:38,007 --> 00:11:40,700 so I was around him more often. 204 00:11:40,803 --> 00:11:44,013 I would go over and play games for game nights, 205 00:11:44,117 --> 00:11:46,291 and they would kiss three times, 206 00:11:46,395 --> 00:11:49,536 and she would always say, "Past, present, future." 207 00:11:50,261 --> 00:11:54,023 Jason was very much a part of the family. 208 00:11:54,506 --> 00:11:58,234 On outward, you've seen the happy family, 209 00:11:58,579 --> 00:12:01,824 but Christy let me know that there were issues. 210 00:12:01,928 --> 00:12:04,620 And I think that was the catalyst, 211 00:12:04,724 --> 00:12:07,934 subconsciously, the day she passed away, 212 00:12:08,037 --> 00:12:10,143 for how I responded. 213 00:12:12,421 --> 00:12:16,908 I remember feeling something that I never comprehended 214 00:12:17,012 --> 00:12:18,668 who goes to the police. 215 00:12:18,772 --> 00:12:20,878 How do you go to the police? 216 00:12:20,981 --> 00:12:23,604 [James] Finally, we actually went in on October... 217 00:12:24,191 --> 00:12:27,022 [Kathy] Well, speak to the police for the first time. 218 00:12:27,125 --> 00:12:28,264 Yeah. 219 00:12:35,306 --> 00:12:38,033 We went to see the Davison City Police Department 220 00:12:38,136 --> 00:12:41,208 and we said we think that there's foul play. 221 00:12:41,933 --> 00:12:44,833 We were told that they couldn't do anything 222 00:12:44,936 --> 00:12:47,214 without the autopsy results. 223 00:12:47,836 --> 00:12:50,045 [Katrina] A police officer told her 224 00:12:50,148 --> 00:12:54,670 that it could be as soon as two weeks 225 00:12:54,774 --> 00:12:56,741 or as long as 90 days 226 00:12:56,845 --> 00:12:59,433 before any answers would come, 227 00:12:59,537 --> 00:13:00,987 and that it just took time. 228 00:13:01,090 --> 00:13:05,163 But if we really felt that there was foul play, 229 00:13:05,267 --> 00:13:08,028 he said that we should start a notebook 230 00:13:08,132 --> 00:13:11,929 and we needed to keep track 231 00:13:12,032 --> 00:13:15,139 of any details that we thought of. 232 00:13:15,484 --> 00:13:19,177 Now, I don't necessarily believe that he 233 00:13:19,281 --> 00:13:22,456 realized who he was talking to. 234 00:13:27,599 --> 00:13:32,190 So this was our version of what you would call a murder book. 235 00:13:32,501 --> 00:13:36,056 This is all of the info that we pulled together. 236 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,819 So we've got in here the autopsy report, 237 00:13:40,129 --> 00:13:42,235 which came from the medical examiner's. 238 00:13:45,686 --> 00:13:47,412 About three weeks in, 239 00:13:47,516 --> 00:13:50,864 the actual autopsy results came out. 240 00:13:51,140 --> 00:13:53,349 Davison City Police Department called us up 241 00:13:53,453 --> 00:13:55,420 and said, "Come in for a meeting tomorrow 242 00:13:55,524 --> 00:13:59,355 and we'll discuss the autopsy results." 243 00:13:59,804 --> 00:14:03,981 So at 11:03, we found out the death was heroin toxicity. 244 00:14:06,121 --> 00:14:10,228 We sat there, blindsided, 245 00:14:10,332 --> 00:14:13,162 with the chief and the detective. 246 00:14:13,266 --> 00:14:14,819 [Katrina] She said, "The only thing it says 247 00:14:14,923 --> 00:14:16,890 is heroin toxicity." 248 00:14:16,994 --> 00:14:18,719 From that moment on, it was like, "Nope, 249 00:14:18,823 --> 00:14:20,860 I know for a fact she didn't do it." 250 00:14:21,446 --> 00:14:23,379 That's all I needed. 251 00:14:30,317 --> 00:14:32,078 [James] They wrote it down 252 00:14:32,181 --> 00:14:34,528 and gave us the impression 253 00:14:34,632 --> 00:14:36,427 that they were gonna be moving forward 254 00:14:36,530 --> 00:14:38,360 with the investigation. 255 00:14:38,981 --> 00:14:41,397 That was the furthest thing from the truth. 256 00:14:42,709 --> 00:14:45,160 It's like a different planet. 257 00:14:45,539 --> 00:14:47,783 So we told him without a shadow of a doubt 258 00:14:47,887 --> 00:14:51,097 this was not something Christy would do. 259 00:14:51,683 --> 00:14:53,789 It was an instant "Oh, hell, no. 260 00:14:53,893 --> 00:14:55,135 This is murder." 261 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,387 [music] 262 00:15:05,490 --> 00:15:08,459 [Katrina] The death certificate had been released 263 00:15:08,562 --> 00:15:12,290 that it was death by heroin toxicity. 264 00:15:12,497 --> 00:15:15,224 And absolutely not. 265 00:15:15,328 --> 00:15:19,263 I still stay absolutely not. That's my response to that. 266 00:15:19,677 --> 00:15:22,093 "She's breastfeeding. There is no way 267 00:15:22,197 --> 00:15:23,819 our sister did that." 268 00:15:24,130 --> 00:15:26,201 So it only leaves one person. 269 00:15:27,823 --> 00:15:28,962 [Patricia] I didn't wanna believe 270 00:15:29,066 --> 00:15:30,377 that he would do something like that. 271 00:15:30,481 --> 00:15:33,242 I mean, we're talking about a 16-year relationship. 272 00:15:33,346 --> 00:15:35,796 This isn't just some new random person. 273 00:15:35,900 --> 00:15:38,627 So how does somebody just do that? 274 00:15:40,836 --> 00:15:43,011 [Katrina] You don't wanna think that your brother-in-law 275 00:15:43,114 --> 00:15:45,392 is gonna murder your sister. 276 00:15:45,496 --> 00:15:47,947 You just don't wanna mentally go there. 277 00:15:48,844 --> 00:15:50,190 The medical examiner said 278 00:15:50,294 --> 00:15:52,054 that Christy's cause of death 279 00:15:52,158 --> 00:15:57,508 was a self-induced overdose. 280 00:15:58,095 --> 00:16:01,408 And the death certificate stated "accident", 281 00:16:01,512 --> 00:16:06,034 and it was put in a folder in a desk unworked. 282 00:16:06,137 --> 00:16:08,070 No one was taking responsibility, 283 00:16:08,174 --> 00:16:11,384 assuming it was at her own hands. 284 00:16:14,766 --> 00:16:18,287 [Kathy] The next day, I contacted Jason, 285 00:16:18,598 --> 00:16:21,187 because we also had two little girls 286 00:16:21,290 --> 00:16:22,636 that we needed to deal with, 287 00:16:22,740 --> 00:16:24,569 and one's an infant. 288 00:16:25,053 --> 00:16:27,848 I'd do anything to keep the girls close. 289 00:16:28,539 --> 00:16:33,164 Pretending with Jason is just what I had to do 290 00:16:33,751 --> 00:16:36,064 'cause I just needed to know they were okay. 291 00:16:38,273 --> 00:16:40,068 I said, if he wanted, 292 00:16:40,171 --> 00:16:42,173 we would take the baby at nights 293 00:16:42,277 --> 00:16:45,763 because Christy had been breastfeeding. 294 00:16:46,315 --> 00:16:49,801 So the agreement was Jim and I would keep the baby 295 00:16:49,905 --> 00:16:51,389 during the night 296 00:16:51,700 --> 00:16:54,289 and bring her to daycare in the morning. 297 00:16:57,361 --> 00:16:59,397 [James] Kali spent her first year here. 298 00:16:59,501 --> 00:17:00,916 I'd get up in the middle of the night 299 00:17:01,020 --> 00:17:02,366 and feed her the bottle-- 300 00:17:02,883 --> 00:17:05,748 the bottle with her mother's breast milk in it, by the way. 301 00:17:06,370 --> 00:17:08,337 Jason brought over all of the breast milk 302 00:17:08,441 --> 00:17:10,236 she had in the freezer, 303 00:17:10,339 --> 00:17:13,791 literally months' worth of saved breast milk. 304 00:17:15,241 --> 00:17:18,865 Because I had been to nursing school, 305 00:17:18,968 --> 00:17:20,591 I always looked at the breast milk 306 00:17:20,694 --> 00:17:22,386 as a sample to be tested. 307 00:17:22,489 --> 00:17:26,252 Because it came from her body, it is evidence. 308 00:17:26,735 --> 00:17:29,531 That literally was the only physical evidence 309 00:17:29,634 --> 00:17:31,015 that we had 310 00:17:31,602 --> 00:17:34,018 because we didn't have blood from her. 311 00:17:34,122 --> 00:17:36,331 It wasn't like hair or anything. 312 00:17:36,434 --> 00:17:40,404 But it was a substance from her person. 313 00:17:41,025 --> 00:17:44,063 [Patricia] This wasn't a situation of pump-and-dump 314 00:17:44,166 --> 00:17:45,754 and use drugs. 315 00:17:45,857 --> 00:17:48,274 I mean, just because of the volume we had. 316 00:17:48,377 --> 00:17:49,792 And we were all confident 317 00:17:49,896 --> 00:17:52,726 that there was no heroin in Christy's breast milk. 318 00:17:52,830 --> 00:17:55,557 So we just wanted to use that as proof. 319 00:17:56,144 --> 00:17:58,456 We wanted to test the breast milk, 320 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,494 but we did not have the financial means 321 00:18:01,597 --> 00:18:04,117 to find an exterior lab, and we wanted 322 00:18:04,221 --> 00:18:07,707 to make sure that, if the breast milk was tested, 323 00:18:07,810 --> 00:18:11,711 that it was done so that it would be admissible in court. 324 00:18:12,539 --> 00:18:15,508 So we had told the police that we had that. 325 00:18:15,611 --> 00:18:18,062 They said, "I'll make note of it." 326 00:18:18,166 --> 00:18:20,168 But they never asked for it. 327 00:18:23,826 --> 00:18:25,863 I ended up with insomnia. 328 00:18:26,381 --> 00:18:29,625 And so I would lay in bed, thinking, 329 00:18:29,729 --> 00:18:31,386 how can this be reality? 330 00:18:32,041 --> 00:18:34,285 If she died of heroin, 331 00:18:34,389 --> 00:18:37,426 we need proof that he gave it to her. 332 00:18:37,771 --> 00:18:40,326 So where'd he get it? 333 00:18:42,604 --> 00:18:45,158 I was awake at odd hours. 334 00:18:45,262 --> 00:18:47,919 And so I would spend a lot of time 335 00:18:48,023 --> 00:18:50,439 on the computer. 336 00:18:51,130 --> 00:18:54,995 Technically, I do not have any investigative training, 337 00:18:55,099 --> 00:18:59,103 but I am very good at research. 338 00:18:59,724 --> 00:19:05,074 And I have no problem utilizing Google searches 339 00:19:05,178 --> 00:19:07,560 to the best of my ability. 340 00:19:10,425 --> 00:19:14,187 I knew that Jason was working at United Plastics. 341 00:19:14,636 --> 00:19:17,432 The president of the company 342 00:19:17,535 --> 00:19:20,020 worked with Narcotics Anonymous 343 00:19:20,124 --> 00:19:22,333 to hire his workforce to help 344 00:19:22,782 --> 00:19:26,165 get guys who are trying to stay clean 345 00:19:26,268 --> 00:19:28,443 a good job. 346 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,344 There's a lot of addicts working at United Plastics. 347 00:19:33,448 --> 00:19:36,451 So I knew his work environment could have been 348 00:19:36,554 --> 00:19:38,867 where the drugs had come from. 349 00:19:39,281 --> 00:19:41,870 The president of United Plastics 350 00:19:41,973 --> 00:19:43,803 was aware of all the rumors 351 00:19:43,906 --> 00:19:46,115 and knew a list of guys 352 00:19:46,219 --> 00:19:48,980 who would share information. 353 00:19:49,257 --> 00:19:51,914 So I started researching people 354 00:19:52,018 --> 00:19:53,606 and who they're friends with, 355 00:19:53,709 --> 00:19:55,608 and who their friends are friends with. 356 00:19:57,713 --> 00:19:59,888 The information that came out of that 357 00:19:59,991 --> 00:20:02,339 series of interviews we did with co-workers 358 00:20:02,442 --> 00:20:06,135 was that Jason did talk to co-workers about killing her. 359 00:20:06,239 --> 00:20:07,758 He asked about drugs. 360 00:20:08,931 --> 00:20:13,281 Jason was asking what drugs could be not tasted 361 00:20:13,384 --> 00:20:14,592 if put in water. 362 00:20:14,696 --> 00:20:16,974 The employees did not advocate that. 363 00:20:22,738 --> 00:20:25,085 [Patricia] One of my roller derby teammates, 364 00:20:25,189 --> 00:20:27,087 her brother worked with Jason. 365 00:20:27,191 --> 00:20:29,952 And my friend tells me the rumor at work 366 00:20:30,056 --> 00:20:32,783 is that he killed her for life insurance money. 367 00:20:33,887 --> 00:20:36,235 [James] Now, to us, that was the green light 368 00:20:36,338 --> 00:20:39,238 to say this thing should really start moving. 369 00:20:39,652 --> 00:20:42,344 I took that to the Davison City Police Department, 370 00:20:42,448 --> 00:20:46,590 and the sad part is it went nowhere. 371 00:20:53,459 --> 00:20:55,184 [Katrina] Christy's life insurance 372 00:20:55,288 --> 00:20:57,359 was part of a medical insurance. 373 00:20:57,463 --> 00:21:01,501 And she had changed her amount 374 00:21:01,605 --> 00:21:05,954 to be a life insurance policy of $100,000. 375 00:21:07,611 --> 00:21:11,822 The change was because the baby was born. 376 00:21:11,925 --> 00:21:15,308 Unsure who, between Jason and Christy, 377 00:21:15,412 --> 00:21:18,242 is the actual decision-maker 378 00:21:18,346 --> 00:21:22,522 on the policy being what it was. 379 00:21:22,867 --> 00:21:25,387 But even after doing it, 380 00:21:25,491 --> 00:21:28,839 Christy believed that it was in excess. 381 00:21:30,634 --> 00:21:32,567 Christy had made the comment to my mom, 382 00:21:32,670 --> 00:21:36,087 "I am worth more dead than alive to him." 383 00:21:37,848 --> 00:21:41,265 We realized that the life insurance 384 00:21:41,369 --> 00:21:43,992 could have been the major driving force 385 00:21:44,095 --> 00:21:46,960 as to why Christy was deceased. 386 00:21:53,933 --> 00:21:57,419 I look back on the day and I remember 387 00:21:57,523 --> 00:21:59,456 the viewing was on Friday. 388 00:21:59,732 --> 00:22:03,632 I had lines of people wanting to say, 389 00:22:03,736 --> 00:22:06,566 "I'm so sorry for the loss of your sister." 390 00:22:06,670 --> 00:22:09,983 It was very overwhelming. 391 00:22:10,087 --> 00:22:13,401 And I felt very a part of the community. 392 00:22:13,849 --> 00:22:18,267 But when heroin toxicity gets told, 393 00:22:18,371 --> 00:22:19,752 people didn't know. 394 00:22:19,855 --> 00:22:22,168 And we weren't talking about it 395 00:22:22,271 --> 00:22:25,861 because there's an investigation. 396 00:22:26,448 --> 00:22:28,450 And we're not gonna jeopardize an investigation 397 00:22:28,554 --> 00:22:31,557 by saying my sister died of heroin toxicity 398 00:22:31,660 --> 00:22:35,043 because he's obviously involved. 399 00:22:36,285 --> 00:22:40,980 And I don't know who all talks to who. 400 00:22:41,083 --> 00:22:42,602 It's a small community. 401 00:22:43,189 --> 00:22:45,467 We didn't want Jason to know. 402 00:22:45,571 --> 00:22:48,574 We knew he was involved. 403 00:22:51,956 --> 00:22:55,960 Jason did not seem like a grieving widow at all. 404 00:22:56,409 --> 00:22:58,860 He was bragging about the fact 405 00:22:58,963 --> 00:23:02,450 that his refrigerator was stocked full of so much food. 406 00:23:02,967 --> 00:23:06,695 The only way I can describe it is a manic high of, 407 00:23:06,799 --> 00:23:09,215 "Look at all this stuff I'm getting." 408 00:23:09,318 --> 00:23:10,768 [Patricia] I recall Jason went up 409 00:23:10,872 --> 00:23:12,356 to one of the funeral directors 410 00:23:12,460 --> 00:23:14,462 and was asking about when the mail came. 411 00:23:14,910 --> 00:23:16,533 What, specifically, was delivered 412 00:23:16,636 --> 00:23:18,327 to the funeral home? I guess I'm not sure. 413 00:23:18,431 --> 00:23:21,434 It was the life insurance payout 414 00:23:21,745 --> 00:23:24,472 that I believe was $20,000. 415 00:23:24,575 --> 00:23:26,232 They do an instant payout, 416 00:23:26,335 --> 00:23:28,821 so he was waiting for the check 417 00:23:28,924 --> 00:23:32,825 because the funeral home would take their portion 418 00:23:33,170 --> 00:23:35,241 and he would have the remainder. 419 00:23:35,517 --> 00:23:37,001 And I remember he was very agitated 420 00:23:37,105 --> 00:23:38,831 asking about when the mail was coming. 421 00:23:38,934 --> 00:23:40,349 Yes. 422 00:23:40,453 --> 00:23:42,559 He wanted access to those funds. 423 00:23:44,284 --> 00:23:46,252 [Patricia] Jason made me feel very uncomfortable 424 00:23:46,355 --> 00:23:47,667 at the funeral. 425 00:23:47,771 --> 00:23:50,808 He cornered me in the vestibule area 426 00:23:50,912 --> 00:23:53,190 of the funeral home when we were leaving 427 00:23:53,293 --> 00:23:54,605 and basically said, 428 00:23:54,709 --> 00:23:55,744 "You're gonna have to talk to me sometime," 429 00:23:55,848 --> 00:23:57,505 and he made me hug him. 430 00:23:57,608 --> 00:24:00,197 And I just, I couldn't get out of there fast enough. 431 00:24:05,098 --> 00:24:07,446 [James] While we were doing all this investigating, 432 00:24:07,549 --> 00:24:10,276 there was one key thing that had to happen. 433 00:24:10,587 --> 00:24:12,727 Jason Harris could not know about this 434 00:24:13,244 --> 00:24:16,316 because Jason Harris had our two granddaughters. 435 00:24:17,076 --> 00:24:21,805 And we knew he was a vindictive person. 436 00:24:23,669 --> 00:24:26,223 We wanted to make sure any key parts 437 00:24:26,326 --> 00:24:27,431 were still gathered. 438 00:24:27,742 --> 00:24:32,056 So we stayed very close to Jason. 439 00:24:32,401 --> 00:24:34,162 Jason had no idea what was going on 440 00:24:34,265 --> 00:24:36,026 as far as us thinking, 441 00:24:36,129 --> 00:24:38,304 perhaps, that maybe he was involved. 442 00:24:38,407 --> 00:24:41,963 He couldn't have had any idea. 443 00:24:42,584 --> 00:24:44,759 [Katrina] I know he has a very short fuse. 444 00:24:44,862 --> 00:24:48,797 And I was more fearful of his interactions 445 00:24:48,901 --> 00:24:53,215 and was afraid of what he might do to the kids 446 00:24:53,492 --> 00:24:55,942 or myself or any of us 447 00:24:56,046 --> 00:24:57,012 if he were found 448 00:24:57,116 --> 00:24:59,498 in an environment with us alone with him. 449 00:25:02,535 --> 00:25:04,744 "Kathy commented the detective 450 00:25:04,848 --> 00:25:06,919 and the chief blew you off when you said 451 00:25:07,022 --> 00:25:09,128 that the insurance money was a motive." 452 00:25:09,231 --> 00:25:10,370 Mm-hmm. 453 00:25:10,474 --> 00:25:11,648 [James] "Jason says that he wants 454 00:25:11,751 --> 00:25:13,995 to purchase a house a couple streets over. 455 00:25:14,754 --> 00:25:18,793 And he's been on an obvious spending spree." 456 00:25:24,384 --> 00:25:28,181 [Katrina] Jason had put a down payment on a house 457 00:25:28,285 --> 00:25:30,805 about a block or so away 458 00:25:30,908 --> 00:25:33,359 from the house Christy passed away in. 459 00:25:33,462 --> 00:25:36,327 And so New Year's Eve, 460 00:25:36,431 --> 00:25:38,571 he had called and said 461 00:25:38,675 --> 00:25:43,196 that if we wanted the Coca-Cola collection 462 00:25:43,300 --> 00:25:45,095 that my mom had given Christy, 463 00:25:45,198 --> 00:25:47,615 it was at the house and we could pick it up. 464 00:25:48,616 --> 00:25:50,376 So my dad and I went to the house 465 00:25:50,479 --> 00:25:52,343 to pick up the collection. 466 00:25:53,103 --> 00:25:56,555 And we realized that he wasn't there. 467 00:25:57,935 --> 00:26:00,835 So I took advantage of the opportunity. 468 00:26:01,525 --> 00:26:04,045 - [James] There's no electricity? - [Katrina] Uh, no. 469 00:26:06,599 --> 00:26:09,947 I videotaped a tour of the house 470 00:26:10,051 --> 00:26:11,328 as it stood 471 00:26:11,431 --> 00:26:14,193 with everything in it. 472 00:26:14,538 --> 00:26:17,196 So far, I'm not finding anything 473 00:26:17,541 --> 00:26:21,718 that isn't what Christy bought. 474 00:26:22,926 --> 00:26:25,307 So pictures are still up. 475 00:26:25,653 --> 00:26:28,932 I ended up finding the check stub 476 00:26:29,035 --> 00:26:32,591 for the life insurance policy, showing where it was cashed. 477 00:26:33,764 --> 00:26:38,527 I ended up finding an itinerary for a flight. 478 00:26:38,907 --> 00:26:42,393 That was to the Massachusetts area 479 00:26:42,497 --> 00:26:45,604 for January 2015. 480 00:26:46,328 --> 00:26:48,917 And I realized the girl from Massachusetts 481 00:26:49,021 --> 00:26:50,885 was on the phone record. 482 00:26:52,127 --> 00:26:54,164 [Patricia] When we put all these pieces together, 483 00:26:54,267 --> 00:26:56,373 it just seemed like there was a lot of pre-planning. 484 00:26:58,133 --> 00:27:02,241 That's when I found a box in the basement. 485 00:27:05,313 --> 00:27:07,108 The box had "Do not open." 486 00:27:08,661 --> 00:27:10,698 I'm a bad person... 487 00:27:29,717 --> 00:27:33,513 No, I haven't seen this since the night we went there. 488 00:27:33,617 --> 00:27:34,722 [Katrina] I'm alone in the basement 489 00:27:34,825 --> 00:27:36,068 and I'm whispering to myself. 490 00:27:36,171 --> 00:27:39,934 I don't know. I'm scared of it. 491 00:27:43,385 --> 00:27:45,042 I saw white powder and that freaked me out too 492 00:27:45,146 --> 00:27:46,803 'cause it was all over the floor. 493 00:27:47,182 --> 00:27:50,772 The bags had drug paraphernalia in it. 494 00:27:50,876 --> 00:27:54,673 There was stuff on it. There's tinfoil. 495 00:27:54,776 --> 00:27:57,468 To us, that was like the lightbulb went off. 496 00:27:59,919 --> 00:28:03,026 Jason was using drugs in the basement 497 00:28:03,129 --> 00:28:05,373 of the house that my sister was found in. 498 00:28:07,133 --> 00:28:11,068 [Kathy] But it's information, fill in the blanks, 499 00:28:11,172 --> 00:28:14,382 that we were trying to get the authorities 500 00:28:14,485 --> 00:28:17,834 to use, to substantiate, 501 00:28:17,937 --> 00:28:21,803 to move forward, or somehow get the case 502 00:28:22,010 --> 00:28:24,185 more active than it had been. 503 00:28:24,495 --> 00:28:26,463 And the fact that the police were doing nothing 504 00:28:26,566 --> 00:28:28,016 stymied everything. 505 00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:31,192 At that point, everything with Davison Police Department 506 00:28:31,295 --> 00:28:32,883 basically just died. 507 00:28:33,539 --> 00:28:36,611 [Katrina] We were frustrated with the authorities. 508 00:28:36,715 --> 00:28:40,995 We believed that they didn't want to admit 509 00:28:41,098 --> 00:28:44,999 there not being an investigation done efficiently. 510 00:28:46,448 --> 00:28:49,693 [James] For us, this is not something that would go away. 511 00:28:50,211 --> 00:28:51,902 It's not like a year into it, 512 00:28:52,006 --> 00:28:55,216 we just go, "Ah, well, forget about it." 513 00:28:55,319 --> 00:28:56,286 We couldn't do that 514 00:28:56,389 --> 00:28:58,253 because, at the end of this, if you don't do 515 00:28:58,357 --> 00:29:02,430 everything that you can do, how are you gonna feel? 516 00:29:03,051 --> 00:29:05,778 [Katrina] And so I was continuing to research 517 00:29:05,882 --> 00:29:07,711 everyone and everything. 518 00:29:07,815 --> 00:29:10,438 And my mom was emailing, 519 00:29:10,541 --> 00:29:12,578 trying to get anyone to listen 520 00:29:12,681 --> 00:29:15,029 to see about getting movement. 521 00:29:15,684 --> 00:29:18,722 We couldn't think, for one minute, 522 00:29:18,826 --> 00:29:20,793 that he was drawing a free breath 523 00:29:21,069 --> 00:29:23,037 and Christy was dead. 524 00:29:24,210 --> 00:29:26,143 It just wasn't gonna happen. 525 00:29:26,903 --> 00:29:28,076 [Christy] Tada! 526 00:29:28,180 --> 00:29:29,457 [James] So you have to keep the faith. 527 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,425 You always have to have a hope of justice. 528 00:29:34,324 --> 00:29:38,017 During that time, Jason would use every opportunity 529 00:29:38,121 --> 00:29:39,743 he could to withhold the girls. 530 00:29:39,847 --> 00:29:41,193 That was his way of controlling us, 531 00:29:41,296 --> 00:29:44,437 so the goal here was we did not let him know anything. 532 00:29:45,335 --> 00:29:55,897 [music] 533 00:30:01,385 --> 00:30:04,906 Yes, I'm the one that gets to hook up the printers, 534 00:30:05,010 --> 00:30:06,252 and fix the printers, 535 00:30:06,356 --> 00:30:08,496 and "My computer's not working right," 536 00:30:08,599 --> 00:30:10,084 and all that good stuff. 537 00:30:10,187 --> 00:30:11,533 Whatever the new technology is, 538 00:30:11,637 --> 00:30:14,502 I like to get ahold of it and see what I can do with it. 539 00:30:16,607 --> 00:30:20,025 So approximately six months after Christy died, 540 00:30:20,128 --> 00:30:22,027 I get a message from Jason, 541 00:30:22,337 --> 00:30:24,961 telling me his laptop won't boot. 542 00:30:25,064 --> 00:30:28,067 The real thing he wanted was all the pictures off. 543 00:30:28,171 --> 00:30:30,242 Well, I took that as an opportunity 544 00:30:30,345 --> 00:30:31,933 and I said, "Well, I can take a look at it." 545 00:30:32,037 --> 00:30:34,108 I have some devices here at home 546 00:30:34,211 --> 00:30:35,834 that you basically take the hard drive out, 547 00:30:35,937 --> 00:30:38,353 and you plug in, and you can see the data, 548 00:30:38,457 --> 00:30:41,253 as long as the hard drive's not shot. 549 00:30:41,356 --> 00:30:45,222 So I was able to get access to his hard drive. 550 00:30:46,258 --> 00:30:48,639 I don't think Jason's a smart person. 551 00:30:48,743 --> 00:30:50,227 You've heard that saying, 552 00:30:50,331 --> 00:30:52,367 "Not the smartest tool in the shed"? 553 00:30:52,471 --> 00:30:53,955 He's not in the shed. 554 00:30:54,473 --> 00:30:56,406 He never even made it to the shed. 555 00:30:58,373 --> 00:31:01,445 I found a weblink where he had looked up 556 00:31:01,549 --> 00:31:04,414 how a couple of drugs reacted with each other 557 00:31:04,517 --> 00:31:07,417 with regard to if you give them to someone, 558 00:31:07,693 --> 00:31:10,661 and just some searches that were questionable. 559 00:31:10,972 --> 00:31:13,664 I knew Christy would not have any reason 560 00:31:13,768 --> 00:31:15,252 to wanna look up. 561 00:31:15,356 --> 00:31:17,599 Those just struck me as criminal. 562 00:31:18,186 --> 00:31:21,155 Started moving the pictures, and that's when I found 563 00:31:21,258 --> 00:31:23,536 a key picture that showed him in the basement 564 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,193 of his house on Bay Street 565 00:31:25,711 --> 00:31:28,817 with all kinds of drug paraphernalia in front of him. 566 00:31:29,473 --> 00:31:32,166 They're having a little drug party in the basement. 567 00:31:32,649 --> 00:31:36,101 You've got the butane lighters 568 00:31:36,204 --> 00:31:39,449 and you can see the drugs on a mirror. 569 00:31:41,692 --> 00:31:43,971 So all that did for us 570 00:31:44,074 --> 00:31:45,558 was anything he wanted to say 571 00:31:45,662 --> 00:31:47,560 about, "No, I don't do that," 572 00:31:47,664 --> 00:31:49,424 well, explain this picture then. 573 00:31:52,048 --> 00:31:54,050 [Katrina] My dad took that opportunity 574 00:31:54,153 --> 00:31:57,916 to copy the hard drive and tell the police, 575 00:31:58,019 --> 00:32:00,366 "I have this computer. It's his. 576 00:32:00,470 --> 00:32:01,781 Do you want it?" 577 00:32:01,885 --> 00:32:05,233 Police said, "Yes, we want it. Can you drop it off?" 578 00:32:05,337 --> 00:32:09,548 My parents said, "No, we want you to obtain it legally. 579 00:32:09,651 --> 00:32:11,067 You need a warrant. 580 00:32:11,170 --> 00:32:13,276 So get a warrant. We'll give you the laptop." 581 00:32:13,586 --> 00:32:15,761 At the same time, we informed the police 582 00:32:15,864 --> 00:32:17,349 that we had the breast milk. 583 00:32:17,694 --> 00:32:19,247 So they're like, "Well, we'll get the breast milk 584 00:32:19,351 --> 00:32:21,215 when we get the laptop." 585 00:32:27,255 --> 00:32:29,809 So in the spring of 2015, 586 00:32:29,913 --> 00:32:34,711 they obtained a warrant to get the laptop and the breast milk. 587 00:32:34,883 --> 00:32:37,265 They gathered both of those items, 588 00:32:37,369 --> 00:32:40,441 sent them to the Michigan State Police. 589 00:32:40,717 --> 00:32:44,065 And we, then, for the next three months, 590 00:32:44,169 --> 00:32:45,964 the Davison City Police was telling us, 591 00:32:46,067 --> 00:32:48,518 "We haven't heard anything. We haven't heard anything." 592 00:32:55,525 --> 00:32:57,941 [James] The reality is that hard drive 593 00:32:58,045 --> 00:33:00,530 was a six-month wait in purgatory 594 00:33:00,633 --> 00:33:02,773 because every time I'd go to the police department, 595 00:33:02,877 --> 00:33:03,947 "Well, we're waiting on hard drive, 596 00:33:04,051 --> 00:33:05,397 waiting on the hard drive." 597 00:33:06,467 --> 00:33:07,709 [Katrina] I ended up reaching out 598 00:33:07,813 --> 00:33:10,609 to the Michigan State Police and saying, 599 00:33:11,058 --> 00:33:12,438 "What happens to the evidence? 600 00:33:12,542 --> 00:33:15,096 How long does it take to work through?" 601 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,236 I got a call from one of the head guys 602 00:33:17,340 --> 00:33:18,686 at Michigan State Police, 603 00:33:18,789 --> 00:33:20,688 saying, "We don't know what you're talking about." 604 00:33:20,791 --> 00:33:23,656 The Michigan State Police ended up communicating 605 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,762 with the Davison City Police, 606 00:33:25,865 --> 00:33:28,247 and the laptop was found, 607 00:33:28,351 --> 00:33:31,457 and the Davison City Police detective 608 00:33:31,561 --> 00:33:35,289 didn't know how to access the files in it. 609 00:33:37,981 --> 00:33:39,189 [James] There are a lot of things 610 00:33:39,293 --> 00:33:41,329 that you can do yourself. 611 00:33:41,433 --> 00:33:44,229 You can't press charges against someone. 612 00:33:44,332 --> 00:33:46,265 You can't arrest someone. 613 00:33:46,369 --> 00:33:48,302 So if you're wanting the state 614 00:33:48,405 --> 00:33:50,821 to bring charges against someone, 615 00:33:50,925 --> 00:33:52,271 you can't just go out and say, 616 00:33:52,375 --> 00:33:53,721 "I'm gonna hire a prosecutor 617 00:33:53,824 --> 00:33:55,999 and I'm gonna go after somebody." 618 00:33:56,379 --> 00:33:58,484 It's totally up to their time. 619 00:33:58,933 --> 00:34:01,280 [Katrina] The city of Davison police department 620 00:34:01,384 --> 00:34:03,248 stopped investigating 621 00:34:03,351 --> 00:34:07,148 because the death certificate stated "accident." 622 00:34:10,772 --> 00:34:14,293 [James] You cannot expect somebody else to do it. 623 00:34:14,397 --> 00:34:17,158 Even if you have a top-notch police force 624 00:34:17,262 --> 00:34:19,057 that's just all over it, 625 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,438 I don't think any of that means that you 626 00:34:21,542 --> 00:34:24,027 can just back off and let them do it. 627 00:34:24,407 --> 00:34:27,099 It's still something that you have to do 628 00:34:27,203 --> 00:34:30,068 to get the result that you're wanting at the end. 629 00:34:31,138 --> 00:34:32,242 That's one of the reasons 630 00:34:32,346 --> 00:34:34,417 why we decided to do the civil case 631 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,867 because, as we looked into it, 632 00:34:36,971 --> 00:34:39,215 we realized we do control this. 633 00:34:40,043 --> 00:34:41,838 [Katrina] We had the information 634 00:34:41,941 --> 00:34:46,014 of his communication with the other phone numbers 635 00:34:46,118 --> 00:34:49,121 up until Christy had passed. 636 00:34:49,501 --> 00:34:54,230 We had the search results from the laptop. 637 00:34:54,333 --> 00:34:57,681 We had the photograph of Jason 638 00:34:57,785 --> 00:35:00,270 having drug paraphernalia in front of him. 639 00:35:00,374 --> 00:35:04,516 And we had the video of the home, 640 00:35:04,619 --> 00:35:08,313 showing drug paraphernalia in a box in the home 641 00:35:08,416 --> 00:35:10,418 that Christy was found in. 642 00:35:10,522 --> 00:35:14,042 We had a plethora of information. 643 00:35:14,146 --> 00:35:16,114 And we had the breast milk. 644 00:35:19,393 --> 00:35:21,947 So we filed a wrongful death suit 645 00:35:22,050 --> 00:35:23,638 against Jason. 646 00:35:28,919 --> 00:35:32,406 Our main reason was not for the financial end of it, 647 00:35:32,509 --> 00:35:35,961 but to get Jason on a stand and testifying. 648 00:35:36,203 --> 00:35:37,445 We wanted him in front of somebody, 649 00:35:37,549 --> 00:35:39,067 talking about the case. 650 00:35:39,171 --> 00:35:41,829 We also... We also had tried 651 00:35:41,932 --> 00:35:45,004 the Freedom of Information Act multiple times 652 00:35:45,246 --> 00:35:46,765 to no avail. 653 00:35:46,868 --> 00:35:48,629 And it was an avenue 654 00:35:48,732 --> 00:35:50,700 to get us information. 655 00:35:50,803 --> 00:35:51,977 We wanted to make sure 656 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,152 there wasn't any additional evidence 657 00:35:54,255 --> 00:35:57,189 that was just going to end up disappearing. 658 00:35:57,638 --> 00:35:59,985 [Patricia] I think there were people along the way 659 00:36:00,088 --> 00:36:03,402 that had doubt just because of the time that passed. 660 00:36:03,747 --> 00:36:06,129 It wasn't a matter of what evidence we collected 661 00:36:06,233 --> 00:36:07,924 or what information we had. 662 00:36:08,476 --> 00:36:11,030 It was just, "Okay, well, it's been four years. 663 00:36:11,134 --> 00:36:13,792 It's not gonna happen if it hasn't happened already." 664 00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:16,415 And we just kept pushing. 665 00:36:22,387 --> 00:36:23,629 [music] 666 00:36:23,733 --> 00:36:26,287 [James] With this case, civil case, 667 00:36:26,391 --> 00:36:28,427 we were able to push it. 668 00:36:28,531 --> 00:36:30,326 We were able to use subpoena power. 669 00:36:30,429 --> 00:36:32,086 We were able to get people in 670 00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:34,157 and get them to answer a line of questions 671 00:36:34,261 --> 00:36:36,884 that we were involved with creating. 672 00:36:36,987 --> 00:36:39,197 So from that point forward, 673 00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:42,890 we actually felt like we were making progress. 674 00:36:46,721 --> 00:36:50,380 One of the depositions from a former co-worker 675 00:36:50,484 --> 00:36:52,313 at United Plastics 676 00:36:52,417 --> 00:36:55,247 was that Jason hired somebody 677 00:36:55,351 --> 00:36:57,284 to shoot Christy 678 00:36:57,629 --> 00:37:01,115 and make it look like a random drive-by. 679 00:37:02,047 --> 00:37:04,981 [James] He had asked co-workers to murder Christy. 680 00:37:05,257 --> 00:37:07,363 That is solicitation of murder. 681 00:37:07,777 --> 00:37:11,229 We listened to the deposition of Leah Miller, 682 00:37:11,332 --> 00:37:13,231 who's Jason's live-in girlfriend. 683 00:37:13,334 --> 00:37:15,405 She was saying she'd never seen Jason do drugs 684 00:37:15,509 --> 00:37:17,545 and she was not aware of Jason doing drugs. 685 00:37:17,649 --> 00:37:20,168 And in this picture, both of them are sitting there, 686 00:37:20,272 --> 00:37:21,756 and it's like drug heaven. 687 00:37:27,486 --> 00:37:29,316 [Katrina] At the end of the deposition, 688 00:37:29,419 --> 00:37:33,492 the medical examiner ultimately changed the status 689 00:37:33,596 --> 00:37:39,533 from a self-induced overdose to homicide. 690 00:37:42,260 --> 00:37:44,814 That felt like validation. 691 00:37:47,437 --> 00:37:49,784 The civil case then goes to Jason. 692 00:37:49,888 --> 00:37:50,958 He has two choices. 693 00:37:51,061 --> 00:37:54,651 He can agree and sign it that he caused the issue 694 00:37:54,755 --> 00:37:59,035 or he can say, "I don't wanna sign it. 695 00:37:59,138 --> 00:38:00,243 Let's go to court," 696 00:38:00,347 --> 00:38:02,072 and he can get up in front of a jury. 697 00:38:02,176 --> 00:38:03,246 He did not do that. 698 00:38:03,350 --> 00:38:05,766 He signed that he was responsible 699 00:38:05,869 --> 00:38:06,974 for Christy's death. 700 00:38:12,462 --> 00:38:16,432 So in August, 2019, we got called 701 00:38:16,535 --> 00:38:19,124 to the state police for an update. 702 00:38:19,642 --> 00:38:22,610 It was in that meeting that we heard 703 00:38:22,714 --> 00:38:28,306 "Jason Harris has been arrested and is in custody." 704 00:38:30,515 --> 00:38:32,413 [James] The three charges that he had 705 00:38:32,517 --> 00:38:34,622 were capital murder in the first degree, 706 00:38:34,726 --> 00:38:36,624 means that he planned it. 707 00:38:36,728 --> 00:38:39,317 Second one was solicitation of murder-- 708 00:38:39,420 --> 00:38:41,664 he'd asked co-workers to murder Christy. 709 00:38:41,767 --> 00:38:45,875 And the third was murder with a controlled substance 710 00:38:45,978 --> 00:38:48,326 because it was heroin that he had given her. 711 00:38:49,603 --> 00:38:51,363 While there was some initial relief 712 00:38:51,467 --> 00:38:53,641 that he had been arrested, 713 00:38:53,952 --> 00:38:55,505 it was brief 714 00:38:55,609 --> 00:38:58,888 because the other thing that pops into your head is, 715 00:38:58,991 --> 00:39:01,062 what about our granddaughters? Where are they? 716 00:39:01,166 --> 00:39:04,065 [Patricia] Yeah, because if a jury said not guilty, 717 00:39:04,169 --> 00:39:06,136 we'd probably never see those girls again. 718 00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:07,517 [James] Yeah, yeah. 719 00:39:07,621 --> 00:39:10,106 We really weren't safe when he was arrested. 720 00:39:10,209 --> 00:39:12,039 We needed to hear guilty. 721 00:39:15,870 --> 00:39:17,493 [James] We were at the trial. 722 00:39:17,596 --> 00:39:20,012 The Genessee County prosecutor said 723 00:39:20,116 --> 00:39:21,738 that they believed that Jason 724 00:39:21,842 --> 00:39:24,258 put heroin in her cereal and fed her cereal, 725 00:39:24,362 --> 00:39:25,501 which caused her death. 726 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,296 [Katrina] The expert testified and said 727 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,437 that if it was in cereal, 728 00:39:30,678 --> 00:39:32,577 it would've been tasteless 729 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,752 because the sugar would overcompensate 730 00:39:35,856 --> 00:39:38,962 the bitter taste that heroin has. 731 00:39:39,791 --> 00:39:41,206 [Patricia] And the breast milk was evidence 732 00:39:41,309 --> 00:39:43,415 used by the prosecutor. 733 00:39:44,036 --> 00:39:46,176 Results of the breast milk came up clean. 734 00:39:46,384 --> 00:39:47,902 There was nothing in it. 735 00:39:48,627 --> 00:39:51,043 [James] And what that meant was we had proven 736 00:39:51,147 --> 00:39:53,045 Christy could not have been doing drugs. 737 00:39:59,258 --> 00:40:02,054 [Katrina] The verdict happened seven years after her death. 738 00:40:02,434 --> 00:40:04,022 When the verdict was read, 739 00:40:04,125 --> 00:40:08,889 I had Patricia to my left, my dad to my right, 740 00:40:08,992 --> 00:40:11,512 my best friend directly behind me. 741 00:40:12,064 --> 00:40:16,517 And when they said the first "guilty," 742 00:40:16,793 --> 00:40:20,107 I felt Tricia begin to cry. 743 00:40:20,694 --> 00:40:24,249 I felt my dad start shaking from tears, 744 00:40:24,352 --> 00:40:27,286 and my best friend hit me on the back. 745 00:40:27,390 --> 00:40:31,981 And with every single "guilty," she was hitting me. 746 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,399 [James] The verdict was guilty on all counts 747 00:40:36,572 --> 00:40:38,574 which was very emotional. 748 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,716 Jason Harris was sentenced to life in prison without parole. 749 00:40:43,233 --> 00:40:45,719 So that means he will die in a penitentiary. 750 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,276 [Patricia] It was validating. 751 00:40:51,379 --> 00:40:54,624 It was a rush of emotions. 752 00:40:55,211 --> 00:40:57,247 The judge said everything we thought and felt 753 00:40:57,351 --> 00:40:58,801 over the past seven years. 754 00:40:58,904 --> 00:41:00,319 He got it. 755 00:41:00,837 --> 00:41:03,599 Finally, after seven years, somebody got it. 756 00:41:04,669 --> 00:41:06,878 I feel like justice was served. 757 00:41:08,293 --> 00:41:12,055 [Katrina] There was always hope for justice. 758 00:41:12,780 --> 00:41:17,923 We never stopped investigating because the four of us, 759 00:41:18,303 --> 00:41:20,754 we have girls that need to be taken care of. 760 00:41:21,824 --> 00:41:24,033 And that is at the forefront. 761 00:41:28,727 --> 00:41:31,937 If I could say anything to Christy, 762 00:41:32,455 --> 00:41:34,664 I don't know if I would say anything. 763 00:41:35,285 --> 00:41:37,909 I'd probably just wanna sit and watch a movie. 764 00:41:40,843 --> 00:41:42,672 Just be in the presence 765 00:41:42,948 --> 00:41:45,433 'cause it's not like I have to tell her I love her 766 00:41:45,537 --> 00:41:47,056 'cause I know she knew it. 767 00:41:49,610 --> 00:41:52,786 [Kathy] Christy was a mother to me at times 768 00:41:52,889 --> 00:41:55,340 as much as she was her sisters, 769 00:41:55,547 --> 00:41:57,273 as much as she was her children. 770 00:41:57,376 --> 00:42:00,621 And she lived to be the mother of her children, 771 00:42:00,863 --> 00:42:04,867 her own children, her babies. 772 00:42:05,764 --> 00:42:08,146 [James] The biggest thing that I wanna say to her 773 00:42:08,456 --> 00:42:10,907 is how proud I was of her as a mother, 774 00:42:11,701 --> 00:42:14,083 how proud I was to be her dad. 775 00:42:15,325 --> 00:42:18,328 I miss her. I think about her all the time. 776 00:42:19,364 --> 00:42:24,231 [music] 777 00:42:25,439 --> 00:42:37,555 [music] 778 00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:58,437 Burton: There were four victims 779 00:42:58,541 --> 00:43:00,370 put in barrels out here in the woods. 780 00:43:00,474 --> 00:43:01,958 Announcer: On the next episode of 781 00:43:02,062 --> 00:43:04,651 "True Crime Story: Citizen Detective"... 782 00:43:04,754 --> 00:43:08,827 These little girls and their mother were just nameless. 783 00:43:08,931 --> 00:43:11,002 Why is nobody looking for them? 784 00:43:11,105 --> 00:43:13,832 I started searching anything that might lead 785 00:43:13,936 --> 00:43:16,421 to the identity of the victims. 786 00:43:16,524 --> 00:43:18,423 I'm like, "Oh, my God. 787 00:43:18,526 --> 00:43:22,945 Announcer: "True Crime Story: Citizen Detective."