1 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,759 ♪ Now big respect in every aspect to one massive and all the crew 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,799 ♪ Remember, there is only one ruling selectah 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,359 ♪ And it's The Bug 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,759 ♪ And this is Tippa Irie sayin' dis 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,559 ♪ A-ha! 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,639 ♪ Now I tell you! 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,599 ♪ Look on set! Boom! 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,599 ♪ So many tings dat get mi angry and 9 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,759 ♪ So many tings dat get mi mad 10 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:28,799 ♪ So many things dat get mi angry 11 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,279 ♪ And I gotta say 12 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,239 ♪ So many things dat get mi angry 13 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,759 ♪ And so many things that get mi mad. 14 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,799 ♪ So many things dat get mi angry 15 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,199 ♪ And I gotta say 16 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,239 ♪ When I think bout Bush I think bout Blair 17 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,399 ♪ Have my people livin' in fear 18 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,479 ♪ Where deh every country they interfere 19 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:48,879 ♪ And the suicide bomber dem everywhere 20 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,959 ♪ And dem mashin' up our atmosphere 21 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,199 ♪ The ozone layer, dey know it gone clear 22 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,319 ♪ The people in Africa shed a likkle tear 23 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,399 ♪ But it's funny how they just not goin' down there 24 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,439 ♪ So many tings dat get mi angry and 25 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,759 ♪ So many tings dat get mi mad 26 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,119 ♪ So many tings dat get mi angry and 27 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,359 ♪ I gotta say 28 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,399 ♪ So many tings dat get mi angry and 29 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,319 ♪ So many tings dat get mi mad... ♪ 30 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:13,919 ANNOUNCER: Politics programme one - The Distribution Of Power. 31 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,320 VT-6T-24211. 32 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,199 Take one. No, I must say, it won't be 33 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,999 as if I'm coming out to completely new territory, 34 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,639 because I remember it since I was 35 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,519 so high. You know, I used to come up sort of riding holidays 36 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,719 in the Peak District and that. The last classical occasion 37 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,919 was I had a terrible hunting accident. 38 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,719 You are chairman of all the YCs in this... 39 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,839 No, I'm just chairman of one of the branches. 40 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,999 Oh, I see. Who's the chairman of the whole lot? 41 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,999 Is he here? I don't know. 42 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,079 But he obviously is the chap to work through, isn't he? 43 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,760 That's right. Yes. 44 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,359 How old are yours? Seven, five and two. 45 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,719 TANNOY: A vote for Lyle is a vote for Labour. 46 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,759 I ask for your support on March the 31st. 47 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,839 On March the 31st, I ask you to support the Labour Party. 48 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,879 This is Pat Lyle, your Labour candidate for this division. 49 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,240 I ask for your support. 50 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,520 PHONE RINGS 51 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,759 Financial restrictions. Well, can you get him for a minute? 52 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,399 Well, it's urgent, this. I can't tell you that. 53 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,079 I'm not allowed to disclose that. 54 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:38,959 We don't deal with that sort of thing. 55 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,360 Not available. 56 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,400 Now I'm completely defenceless, where are we going? 57 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:51,480 We're going in here. 58 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:53,880 How are you, young man? 59 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:02,800 Good evening. 60 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,720 DANCE MUSIC PLAYS 61 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,359 After I had this conversation with Max, he said, 62 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,199 "What are you doing on Friday night?" I said, "I don't know." 63 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:41,319 He said, "Well, come down here 64 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,439 "and we'll go to this sort of film premiere." 65 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,439 I said, "OK, well, fine." So I came 66 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,639 down - he introduced me to this Katie Baring. 67 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,919 He said, "By the way, this is Katie Baring." 68 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,119 He said, "She's part of this banking family. 69 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,359 "We're going to sort of spread the line that you've been all over 70 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,919 "the world with her having a wild sort of passionate affair with her." 71 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,919 Um... And I was a bit stunned by all this at first. 72 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,719 I thought, "Hang on a minute." And then the next minute, 73 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,719 there it is, blasted on the front page of The Sun 74 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:05,879 that we'd been on sort of 75 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,080 exotic trips to Kenya and everything else. 76 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,559 Derek's a good example of the crossover. That's getting 77 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,839 a client involved with something which promotes them, 78 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,239 and maybe a couple of other clients at the same time. 79 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,359 Over there, we have an example of that, 80 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,519 which is a front page of The Sun, where Derek 81 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,879 was supposedly caught out at a London nightclub, 82 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,119 which I happened to be promoting at the time, 83 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,079 with a young lady, who was an aspiring actress, 84 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,439 who happened to be a distant cousin of Princess Di's. 85 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,479 The paper got their story, Derek had the publicity. 86 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,839 The club had the publicity, Katie Baring had the publicity. 87 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:44,400 So it was a three-way crossover. 88 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,879 You used... you used to make jackets for.. 89 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,119 The Prince of Wales. Yeah, Charles and all that. Charlie. 90 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,559 And you used to write obscene things in the lining. 91 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:33,879 LAUGHTER 92 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,519 Uh, I did, actually, yeah. 93 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,039 LAUGHTER 94 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:39,239 I'm in Savile Row at 95 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,199 the top of this old building with a load of old tailors. 96 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,359 And when you first go into a tailoring apprenticeship, 97 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,359 they sit you on this bench with your legs crossed like this, 98 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,199 and you get the canvas and you start padding the canvas, 99 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:51,999 which makes the jacket. You know, 100 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,479 you sort of think you're going out your mind 101 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:54,679 and you start doodling on the canvas. 102 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:55,919 You're not going to see it 103 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,679 because it's between the fabric and the lining. Right. 104 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,399 So I just started doing... It just happened to be 105 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,199 Prince Charles's jacket I was working on at the time. 106 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,879 And so I draw this big willy on it. 107 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,879 LAUGHTER 108 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,359 Like you do. Sort of like swear words all over these people's jackets. 109 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,239 And, you know, there was one word - "I am a bleep" - on his chest. 110 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,559 So he might still be wearing it now, for all we know. 111 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,039 Actually, I did see him with it the other day. 112 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,319 It's a Prince of Wales 113 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,799 check, two-piece suit with double-breasted lapels. 114 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,719 It's good that he wears Prince of Wales check, though. Isn't it? 115 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,639 It's uncanny, that. It is. 116 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,199 LAUGHTER 117 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:35,599 Just showing Grandad my multi-effects processor. 118 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,760 Korg A5. And... 119 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,600 ..here's one I made earlier. 120 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,760 PLAYS PROCESSED NOTES 121 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,200 That's the sound I made earlier. 122 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,759 Johnny is into heavy metal. Yeah, he's into heavy metal. 123 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,359 Yes. I keep trying to pull him back from heavy metal, 124 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,679 but Christian heavy metal. Not bad-words heavy metal. 125 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,719 Johnny's group's... What's your group going to be called, 126 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,239 Johnny, when you have it? Uh, 4D - Fourth Dimension. 127 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:09,759 Do you know why it's going to...? 128 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,799 Do you know why it's going to be called Fourth Dimension? 129 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,239 No. Um, 4D. Um, Christians believe it means love, 130 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,959 basically. It's God's love, other love. 131 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,279 Fourth Dimension? Mm-hm. 132 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,999 The fourth dimension in this world is supposed to be... It's time 133 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,439 and how it's affected by space 134 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,679 and physics and all that kind of jazz. 135 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,879 It's all to do with Einstein's theory. 136 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,159 That's complicated. But basically, fourth dimension is love. 137 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:34,480 To me. 138 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,440 PLAYS PROCESSED NOTES 139 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,279 APPLAUSE 140 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,080 STEPHEN HAWKING: It involves the use of what is called imaginary time. 141 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:15,879 The idea was at an imaginary time, the universe has no boundary, 142 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,520 no beginning nor end. 143 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:23,480 It just curls round on itself, like the surface of the Earth. 144 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,599 Without boundaries, 145 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,880 the universe has no beginning and no end. 146 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,199 We don't have to explain its creation - 147 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,280 the universe simply exists. 148 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,599 The really amazing thing is not 149 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,919 that life on Earth is balanced on a knife edge, 150 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,959 but that the entire universe is balanced on a knife edge. 151 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,679 You see, even if you dismiss mankind 152 00:09:28,680 --> 00:09:32,159 as just a mere hiccup in the great scheme of things, 153 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:33,999 there's still the fact that the entire 154 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,999 universe seems unreasonably suited to the existence of life. 155 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,760 Almost contrived, we might say a put-up job. 156 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:50,039 If we nudge one of these constants just a few percent in one direction, 157 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:54,959 then stars burn out within a million years of their formation. 158 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,079 No time for evolution. 159 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:58,439 And if we nudge it just 160 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,359 a few percent in the other direction, 161 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,879 then no elements heavier than helium form. 162 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:07,239 So no carbon, no life, not even any chemistry, 163 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,359 no complexity at all. Atoms would be unstable. 164 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,199 There'd be no stars, no light, no warmth, 165 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,639 no structure at all. Just chaos. 166 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,559 Quite a lot of people take ecstasy... trips. 167 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:23,759 Uh... Speed. Speed. Whizz. 168 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,479 Charlie. 169 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,759 Like, everything. Yeah. INTERVIEWER: Say what you're on. 170 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:33,519 Um, I'm on... I'm on... I'm on speed, by the way. 171 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:37,999 I'm on speed as well. And half... half a... half a, um, 172 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,079 rhubarb and custard. And they're pretty good. 173 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,160 Pretty blinding. Yeah. Same. 174 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:44,719 Yeah. We're just having a great time. 175 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,759 It's just good. Good night out. 176 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:54,239 ♪ I know that I'd go anywhere for your smile 177 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,359 ♪ Anywhere for your smile 178 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:02,279 ♪ Everywhere I'd see 179 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,599 ♪ Would you lace my shoes? 180 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,119 ♪ Anything 181 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,199 ♪ Paint your face bright blue? 182 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,119 ♪ Anything... ♪ 183 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,279 Just relax. We'll do it all. No problems, no rush. 184 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,999 Just stand in comfort. OK. Don't give yourself a hard time, 185 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,479 no need. 186 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,559 She was no ordinary girl. 187 00:11:20,560 --> 00:11:22,839 He was no ordinary boy. 188 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,479 And this is no ordinary story. 189 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,079 Tomorrow, only in The Sun, 190 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,240 the intimate confessions of Antonia de Sancha. 191 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,240 CAMERAS SNAP 192 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,159 Yes, we are selling our story. Of course, it's a story. 193 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,759 The whole world are interested in it. 194 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,799 And we've been offered a lot of money for it. 195 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,559 We are going through 196 00:11:59,560 --> 00:12:03,560 enormous personal trauma through this story. 197 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:08,799 Because if he's making lies to the press to save his very old, 198 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:13,640 shabby face and reputation, he's going to be in very hot water. 199 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,560 VIDEO CASSETTE WHIRS 200 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,639 It's very important to me 201 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,799 that nobody judges me right now. 202 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,479 No matter what happens, at the end of the day... 203 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,519 By the time I finish making this, 204 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,520 doing my diary, no matter what happens, you don't judge me. 205 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,159 Because if you think you're judging me, 206 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:00,600 have a good look at yourself. 207 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,800 See if there's anything... If you had a camera on you... 208 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:09,320 ..at every high and low... 209 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:11,680 ..sort of a year or so... 210 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:14,639 ..just think about what would happen, 211 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,280 what would be shown in your life. 212 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,839 It's not as easy as you think it is, you know. 213 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,679 Uh-uh. 214 00:13:22,680 --> 00:13:25,040 PIANO PLAYS 215 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:31,039 M-I-R-R-O-R. 216 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:32,759 Mirror. 217 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,239 There was a time when I found they were very useful. 218 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,479 They still are, of course. I have to use them. 219 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:44,199 But it's a ghastly thing to look and see one's face, 220 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:50,159 what it is now and what you feel it should be, inside you. 221 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:51,400 Um... 222 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,119 One doesn't feel old, you know. 223 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,480 You get... I don't know what the age is... 224 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,120 ..somewhere about 30 to 40. 225 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:09,239 And from then on, inside, you don't get any older, 226 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,439 but every time you look in that confounded mirror and see 227 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:17,799 what time has done, and age has done to your features, 228 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,480 your body, your hands, everything... 229 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,280 ..that's what I dislike more than anything. 230 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,359 As a model, you're not supposed to... 231 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:34,079 Then... You're not supposed to have a voice, really. 232 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:35,520 In that kind of way. 233 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,719 But then, I don't want to choose. 234 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,119 I don't want to say I want my hair 235 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,239 like this or my make-up like this, because then it's not... 236 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,639 Then I'm not being creat... I want to become somebody else. 237 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,239 I don't want to say I want my hair like this, because then I'd be me. 238 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,559 It's nice to be able to be a canvas, to like 239 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,639 then become what they want you to become. 240 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,480 Even sadder. CAMERA SNAPS 241 00:14:55,483 --> 00:14:56,679 Perfect. 242 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:01,159 That whole weird thing of, like, being known by people 243 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,599 you don't know, and they know everything about you, 244 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,079 or they think they do, and you don't know the first thing about them. 245 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,920 INTERVIEWER: Isn't that rather... hard? 246 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,239 You know, that's the job. 247 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,679 That's the... You know, that's the job, is to be... 248 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,759 You know, that's... To be on, I suppose. 249 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:22,080 BIG BEN CHIMES 250 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,280 BIG BEN STRIKES 251 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:41,439 And also a very special guest, 252 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,399 someone... I want you to make yourself feel at home here. 253 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,439 The chairman of Harrods, Mohamed Al-Fayed. Has it been a good day so far? 254 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,439 Wonderful, wonderful. We hope, 255 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,799 I think we're going to make £10 million a day. 256 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,159 Phew! £10 million a day? Today, £10 million 257 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:58,999 we start, and we have £100 million of goods and fantastic bargains. 258 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,240 Yeah, they put questions House of Commons. 259 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,839 If somebody put question against me, 260 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,920 they answer these questions and put also my side of the story. 261 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,439 You fight fire with fire, I told you. 262 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,799 INTERVIEWER: Did you pay them money? Of course, of course, of course. 263 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,119 How can they do the job for me? Of course. 264 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,599 Free? No. It's the people, you know. 265 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,359 Because they're trash of the trash, right? 266 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,719 This is the problem. And this is the people who are example. 267 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,480 The people elect and put in power. 268 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,479 It's just devastating. 269 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,879 You can't just see how great country like that, 270 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,359 with great history, with great civilisation. 271 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,719 You can just go find yourself ruled by a bunch of crooks. 272 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,720 And people have no moral, have no ethics, have nothing. 273 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,599 It is a direct result of 274 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:33,159 the diminishing of power of the Member of Parliament... today, 275 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,960 compared with 20 years ago. 276 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,039 There is an attitude that recognises that, 277 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:41,359 recognises they haven't got 278 00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:44,239 the power that they used to have and says, "We've got 279 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:48,479 "to take commercial advantage and every other kind of advantage of 280 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,679 "the period that we are there." And the power's gone. 281 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:51,880 What else are you going to do? 282 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,839 How are you, darling? Nice to see you. 283 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,239 Nice to see you. You look brilliant. Look at it! 284 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:01,639 Look at the part, eh? 285 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:02,919 LAUGHTER 286 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,839 Oh, 'eck. 287 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,239 What's that? 288 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:07,839 CAMERMAN: Sideways. Oh, sorry. 289 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,399 LAUGHTER 290 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,639 Here. This way, Derek. 291 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,480 CAMERAS SNAP 292 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,519 Right round to your left, Derek. People are telling me 293 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:21,799 I'm going the other way. 294 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,599 And it's really happening here. 295 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,720 There you are. See? She comes out in a slinky sari. 296 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,880 Look at this. Watch this. This is dead dirty. 297 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,039 Look at this. Look at this. 298 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,159 LAUGHTER 299 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,319 It's amazing. 300 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,919 They always happen to travel down there. 301 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,319 And do you know when they want to censor a particular scene 302 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,239 in an Indian film, they bash two flowers together. 303 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,559 Come bash the two flowers together. 304 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,159 What? Come bash two flowers together 305 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,200 and show them how Indian censorship is done. 306 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,279 This is Indian censorship. This is when something's kissing 307 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,919 and canoodling in the bushes in an Indian film. 308 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,399 Or they show two flowers going... Two flowers going. 309 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:06,679 LAUGHTER 310 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,200 That's a kissy-pissy. 311 00:19:10,120 --> 00:19:13,799 I like a man to be sensitive. Must be romantic. 312 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,119 If he's got a brain, it helps. 313 00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:17,719 Because it's all right to go out with a man and have good sex, 314 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,439 but at some point you've got to talk. 315 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,879 Who you can have, you know, stimulating conversation with. 316 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,439 It's nice. 317 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,559 Normally, for a man, if you're into a relationship 318 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,720 and you have sex in various ways and positions... 319 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:32,599 ..you can have sex, 320 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,479 but you can also bring yourself off later on, 321 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,159 and it will feel better. 322 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,800 A man, you're talking about? A man will, yeah. For some reason. 323 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,239 Are you telling me you can go home, you can have really good sex, 324 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,719 lovely jubbly, right? Yeah. You go home, watch a dirty film, have a wank, 325 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,959 and you're cool about it? It's nice, huh? Yeah. 326 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:51,959 Right. So let's cut the bullshit. 327 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,600 Only by that much. 328 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,639 Because the man's in control of it. 329 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,479 It's not the woman in control. It's the man in control. 330 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,039 If you use our own hand, yeah. 331 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,120 Yeah. The man knows what he wants. 332 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:43,599 Now, what exactly have we got here? 333 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,280 We've got 44,000 square feet, listed Grade II star. 334 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:50,520 Ah. 335 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,799 Here was a fine room that's been divided. 336 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,439 The cornice is not cut or disturbed... 337 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,480 No... so we can take those down and restore the room to its former size. 338 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,000 So this is fine. This'll work, so far. 339 00:21:05,120 --> 00:21:06,920 So let's take a look upstairs and see if it... 340 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,960 INDISTINCT CHATTER 341 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:30,719 This is the almost inevitable result of distancing - 342 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,159 the staff on one side of the wire 343 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,239 and the patients on the other, 344 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,199 shut in a wire compound for most of the day 345 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,520 at Borocourt Mental Handicap Hospital, near Reading. 346 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,400 HE GROANS 347 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,199 Alfie's cuts and bruising are the result of neglect, 348 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,239 for these patients spend hours in this compound, 349 00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,920 left to their own devices. 350 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,240 PATIENT WAILS 351 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:27,239 Well, then, what we have to do is take the buildings here, 352 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,759 both to the right and to the left of the pond... Yeah. 353 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,759 ..together with this lot here, and try and incorporate that in 354 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,559 a planning application to demolish and relocate somewhere else 355 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,719 because the view from here has to be restored. 356 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:40,880 PHONE RINGS 357 00:22:40,881 --> 00:22:42,040 Oh. Hello. 358 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,560 Yes. Have you got the completion date? 359 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:49,999 They've signed. 360 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,799 Completion is 28 days from today. 361 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:52,839 Oh, which one? 362 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,319 Hinwick. 363 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,079 Right, right. They've paid a full 10%. At 590? 364 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,679 And they've signed, yeah. 365 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,719 OK, thanks very much. 366 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,120 Yeah. Thank you. Bye. 367 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,040 28% above what we'd have been happy with. 368 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,159 Lot of money. Hmm. 369 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,760 Shows the way things are going. 370 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,600 AUDIO FROM PSYCHO PLAYS 371 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,080 HE WHISTLES 372 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:08,719 I just knew that he had something really special, very modern. 373 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:13,039 It was about sabotage and tradition, which is the perfect combination, 374 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,919 and beauty, violence. 375 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,639 He would do a black coat, 376 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,359 but then he'd line it with human hair and it was blood-red inside, 377 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:22,519 so it was like a body. 378 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,800 It was like the flesh with blood. 379 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,439 I don't want to vote, and the reason I don't want to vote is because 380 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,879 I don't think anybody, erm... 381 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,319 I don't think anybody can represent my viewpoint when they're 382 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,359 representing another thousand people's viewpoints, you know? 383 00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:39,559 In the end, the only person's viewpoint they're going 384 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,000 to represent is their own. 385 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,879 We have done it, we have done it, we have done it! 386 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,039 I have lived to see the Berlin Wall going down. 387 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:53,279 I have lived to see Mr Mandela released from prison, 388 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:59,759 and I have lived to see my party, my Labour Party, sweep the floor. 389 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,759 I was at the centre last night and all we kept saying was, 390 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,119 "Sweep them out, sweep them out, sweep them out, get rid of them!" 391 00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:09,640 and we have swept them out. 392 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,400 MUSIC: Whole Again by Atomic Kitten 393 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,760 ♪ If you see me walking down the street 394 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:43,719 ♪ Staring at the sky and dragging my two feet 395 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,319 ♪ You just pass me by 396 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,799 ♪ It still makes me cry 397 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,080 ♪ But you can make me whole again... ♪ 398 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,000 Come in. 399 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,799 ♪ Looking back on when we first met 400 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:03,919 ♪ I cannot escape and I cannot forget 401 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,439 ♪ Baby, you're the one 402 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,199 ♪ You still turn me on 403 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,600 ♪ You can make me whole again... ♪ 404 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,320 Come close. 405 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:24,480 Look at me. 406 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:28,999 You're not afraid of a woman 407 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,040 who has never seen the sun since you were born? 408 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:34,480 No. 409 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,280 Do you know what I touch... here? 410 00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:42,519 Your heart. 411 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:43,560 Broken. 412 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,000 I sometimes have sick fancies. 413 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,960 And I have a fancy I should like to see someone play. 414 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:56,720 Play. 415 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,080 Play. 416 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,119 I will not shrink from the tough decisions needed to deliver 417 00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:25,239 stability for long-term growth. 418 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,639 I have therefore decided to give the Bank of England 419 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,439 operational responsibility for setting interest rates, 420 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:32,960 with immediate effect. 421 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,600 WHIMSICAL, UPBEAT MUSIC 422 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,239 People come down and say, "Oh, doesn't that music drive you mad?" 423 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,439 It doesn't, for one way, I think it's cheerful, 424 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,079 but the other way is I can't really hear it. 425 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,239 I've been listening to it for four years 426 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,399 and I switch off to it. 427 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,759 The only time I remember that there's music on the ride 428 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,680 is when someone says to me, "Doesn't that drive you mad?" and I'm like... 429 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,799 It was the second day of showing and there was a queue. 430 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,719 Everybody went, scanned the model, and queued immediately to sign on. 431 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,239 And at the point of signing, you paid £25,000 deposit, 432 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,159 and it wasn't going to be completed, I don't remember now, 433 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,560 I think it was just over a year. 434 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,520 And you just saw this queue and you thought, "I want mine." 435 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,319 You know, because of the pool, the gym, the sauna, 436 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,239 the barbecue facility, floodlit tennis courts, that sort of thing. 437 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,399 It has all the yuppie connotations. 438 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,559 For hassle-free existence, 439 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:40,120 put the energies into making the money and enjoying yourself. 440 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,480 Come and live here. 441 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,120 CHATTER 442 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,719 So this is the only access, is it, up here? 443 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,039 This is the only access, which is important. 444 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,359 It has got large windows, 445 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,039 so you could sort of hoist things up with difficulty... Right. 446 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,919 ..but I don't know what size your works are. 447 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,039 Well, you see, it's quite, sort of, three-dimensional, so... 448 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,279 What are your important considerations? 449 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:43,999 A lot of stairs are a problem. 450 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,560 Here we are. 451 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,319 Ooh, lovely. 452 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,839 Here, we declare an interest - we are actually the owners. 453 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,399 We'd be, if you're interested, we'd be your landlords. 454 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,479 Right. And, er, that would be as part of our investment portfolio 455 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,559 cos it's sort of next door to our offices. Yeah. 456 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,279 But we're asking 20,000 a year for this... 457 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,319 Right. 458 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,439 ..till the building is occupied... SHE CHUCKLES 459 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,599 Yeah... which is sort of £400... a week. 460 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,559 Yeah, which is a lot of money, really, you know, for an artist. 461 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,999 A lot of artists aren't working around here cos they have been 462 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,079 shoved out cos they can't afford to be here any more. 463 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,839 Correct. That's the problem, isn't it? I mean, you know, 464 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,239 that is sort of the dynamics of economics, really. 465 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,559 They are moving further into the East End. 466 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,199 And, you know, as we go around, 467 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,799 I'll show you some opportunities out there. 468 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,839 OK. Good. It's all part of that sort of artist-culture thing, isn't it? 469 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,080 In your little garret and working away. 470 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,319 So Sinclair Trailers has definitely packed up? 471 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,599 This is not Sinclair Trailers? 472 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,039 No, not Sinclair Trailers at all. 473 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,920 Sinclair Trailers Limited went bust two years ago. Right. 474 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,399 Who is the person I'm meant to be after? 475 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,719 Well, you really want, I suppose, Mr Sinclair, 476 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,519 but he's in Italy at the moment. 477 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,959 Did you have anything to do with Mr Sinclair? 478 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,639 No. The businesses? No. No. 479 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,120 Not really. All right. 480 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,240 What for? 481 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,080 So? 482 00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:59,680 I've been in one. 483 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,320 Why? Why should I? 484 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:05,600 Knobhead. 485 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,239 We live in Brantford, 486 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,119 a multicultural area - supposed to be - 487 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,239 and yet there are many people in Bradford 488 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,999 who don't see Bradford as their home, 489 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,000 they don't regard the United Kingdom as their home... 490 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,920 ..but they enjoy the benefits that we have to offer. 491 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,439 Now, there are many within those communities 492 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:38,279 who cannot understand why we have this feeling 493 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,479 for our royal family. 494 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:41,959 Oh, Mr Hatton. 495 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,279 Have you got one of those watches? 496 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,679 It's like a Sekonda. 497 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,639 It's extremely accurate and shock-resistant... 498 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,999 ..but it's made of solid gold and it costs six grand. 499 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,480 No, we haven't. 500 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,480 I have! 501 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,560 CHEERING 502 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,399 Like that, it's made of calfskin. 503 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,919 And then the horns, the impala horns. 504 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,279 Well, the Thomson's gazelle horns if you want to be straight. 505 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,560 Goes up like that. 506 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,439 So it's like we've cut the Thomson's gazelle in half. 507 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,919 And I don't know whether to have 'em out like that. 508 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,399 I prefer 'em like that, I think. 509 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,079 Maybe, sort of, like... 510 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,560 ..sort of, like, surrounding her head type thing. 511 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,359 And I suppose you could class this as costume, 512 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,079 but it's costume with a deadly meaning, 513 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,479 so I'd like to see anyone who wears this 514 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,920 go on a number 19 bus back to Islington. 515 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,600 MUSIC: Witch Doktor by Armand Van Helden 516 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,039 Standing by, ready to go. Yes. OK. 517 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,319 Where's Russell? 518 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,640 Is he over there? Is he getting ready? Yeah, yeah. 519 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,040 Get into line. 520 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,759 See, what they can't get over is the fact that we went over 521 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,199 and ruled their countries. 522 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,559 Oh, yeah, we were swines, 523 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,919 there's no denying that, 524 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,599 but the countries were run a damn sight better 525 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,040 than they ever have been. 526 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,479 This is my first handbag, really, designer handbag that I ever bought. 527 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:04,879 It's a Fendi one. 528 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,519 It was about 160. 529 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,479 And the scary thing is I didn't even think twice about paying £160, 530 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,799 but, hey. 531 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,199 I've got a Valentino here. 532 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,399 I got that in Portugal. I went to Portugal for the New Year. 533 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:23,439 The most expensive one, I would say, is my Prada. 534 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,359 I bought this when me and Nicola went shopping to London. 535 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,040 Erm, I think it was about... 536 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,480 ..160, 170. 537 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,439 So, now, it is that I'm being paid out of a sugar deal. 538 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:48,519 Out of a sugar deal? 539 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,320 Well, a sugar deal being done between India and China... 540 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,599 ..and there's a lot of cash involved, 541 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,199 and I'm being paid out of that. 542 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,959 And once the Italians get their money... Mm-hm... and pay me, 543 00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:01,839 I've got to pay these sugar people back. 544 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,759 Well, what's all the delay, then? And all that crap? 545 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,279 Well, the delay, you see, is if you look at the Italian deal... Mm-hm. 546 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,839 ..there's the Irish bank involved, 547 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,679 Banca Popolare involved in Italy and what have you, 548 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,199 and the Federal Reserve. 549 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,519 There's the Bank of India involved, 550 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,359 Hong Kong and Shanghai banks involved, 551 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,199 and, you know, there's fucking banks involved everywhere. 552 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,040 Mm, mm. So, just pissing me off. 553 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,039 I don't believe, I don't see the focus group 554 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,719 as some marketing tool. 555 00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:48,999 I see the focus group as a way of hearing 556 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,039 what the people have to say, 557 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,360 and I see the focus group as a way to a new form of politics. 558 00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:01,839 What the people give, the people can take away. 559 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,240 We are the servants, they are the masters now. 560 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,519 1997 was, I think, fundamentally important in that. 561 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:15,999 I think it is the end, the end of the elitist politics 562 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:21,239 that's dominated Britain for so much of the last hundred years. 563 00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:25,879 ..morality of the way of thinking that produces the contrast 564 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:30,639 between the needs of the people and the interests of profit-making 565 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,679 that we see all around us, and some of which I have mentioned... 566 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:34,799 THUNDER RUMBLES 567 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,279 ..but we can only do that, 568 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,079 we can only preach the morality of socialism... 569 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,800 THUNDER CRASHES 570 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,600 I'm just going to ask my chairman what one does at this point. 571 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,279 What shall I do? Go on. 572 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,159 Do I carry on? Yes. 573 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,839 Yes. Now, I hope you're all putting your macs on 574 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,319 and if you've got umbrellas that won't get in other people's eyes, 575 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,279 but I'm proposing to carry on, 576 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,600 but I'm in a lucky position, I'm not getting wet. 577 00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:21,799 Within our universe, there are at least 100,000 million black holes, 578 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,159 and there could be all through the universe, 579 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,559 including in this room or indeed in my head, 580 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,600 and we wouldn't know anything about them. 581 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,440 STATIC CRACKLES 582 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:35,960 Shall I turn the page? 583 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,160 Oh, sweetheart, your head keeps falling forward. Come on. 584 00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:50,080 Don't you say no to me. 585 00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:59,760 Do you want me to scan down? 586 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,040 Now? Go down? 587 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,599 Hello, mate. Hello, Gerry. Any news? Yes, I have. 588 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,519 The first tranche of money... Yeah. 589 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,679 ..is being transferred tomorrow, 590 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,279 the second tranche will be on Thursday, and the third and final 591 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,759 tranche will be on Monday the 17th. 592 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:33,919 Good. 593 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,839 And that's all been checked out this morning again. 594 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,879 Yeah. Right. It's coming from... 595 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,959 The only trouble is with it, it came from China into Hong Kong, 596 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,879 then it went into America, 597 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,519 back to Singapore, back to Hong Kong, 598 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,479 and then back to America, and across here. 599 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:53,919 Fucking hell. 600 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,719 So what he's been doing, whether they've been washing it or what, 601 00:42:56,720 --> 00:42:58,039 I don't know. Yeah. 602 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,280 But as soon as I get it, mate, I'll be on to you. 603 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,439 What was it like, going through all this all over again? 604 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,759 Horrible, especially for the other people 605 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,479 who had been there a lot longer. 606 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,519 With us, we had just gone through it. 607 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,759 We knew what was going to happen, we knew what to expect. 608 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,359 They didn't have a clue. 609 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,679 It's like a roller-coaster, one knocking on another, 610 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,280 just going down like dominoes. 611 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,319 Place has just been wound down and sold off, 612 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,079 and it's just a desolated place. 613 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,839 It's slowly sinking in that there's nothing going to be done for us. 614 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,879 It looks like there's nothing at all going to be done for us 615 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,839 and we're just on the scrapheap. 616 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,040 We're gone. 617 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,519 You get people like the head of the Bank of England. 618 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,479 Didn't he say something along the lines, 619 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,279 it's an acceptable thing that, well, a sacrifice, 620 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,799 as long as it keeps other jobs down the south 621 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,639 and it keeps the pound going, 622 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,439 you know, keeps the interest rates sorted, 623 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,159 be an acceptable sacrifice? 624 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,480 Not in my eyes, it's not. 625 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,480 DISTANT CHATTER 626 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,600 All starting to arrive, all in high spirits. 627 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,879 They're very informal people, so it's just typical Stapleford. 628 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,160 It's really good. 629 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,559 I'm feeling much better today. 630 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,640 Really relaxed, very looking forward to it. 631 00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,639 Yeah. It's such a relaxing place. 632 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,879 You come here and you feel relaxed, don't you? 633 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,520 It's all going to be nice from now on. 634 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,160 Let everybody just pamper us... 635 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:08,919 ..and make the most of it. 636 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,879 All right, I'll speak to you when you come. 637 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,279 Cheers, mate. 638 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,359 That's my mate Kevin. 639 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,639 He's just bought the only two things left on the wedding list. 640 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,799 One of them's 500 quid. "Yeah, get that." 641 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,120 HE CHUCKLES 642 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,240 STATIC AND DISTORTED SPEECH 643 00:48:31,240 --> 00:48:34,879 I understand that when you were growing up, 644 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:39,239 you believe that your father's telephone was hacked. 645 00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:41,159 Erm... 646 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,639 Well, my father was a journalist, and he... 647 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,999 I used to receive, when I was quite young, 648 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,959 phone calls from a campaigning MP called Tam Dalyell, 649 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,999 and he was looking after the sinking of the Belgrano, and the fact 650 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:57,559 that maybe Maggie ordered that to be sunk 651 00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,199 as a way to kick-start the war. 652 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,959 And, er... Yeah, I just remember my parents at the time saying, 653 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:07,639 you know, "We think our phone's being hacked," and I just... 654 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,439 What joy it was that, you know, in the '90s, 655 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:11,719 you can go to Maplin, 656 00:49:11,720 --> 00:49:14,359 spend £50 on a scanner, and hack them back. 657 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,879 And do we really want to live in a world where the only people 658 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,399 who can do the hacking are MI5 and MI6, 659 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,399 and they should target us as journalists? 660 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,119 No. For a brief period of about 20 years, 661 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:29,919 we have actually lived in a free society, where we can hack back. 662 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,959 SHE SHOUTS 663 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,000 LOUD DANCE MUSIC 664 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:50,960 CHATTER 665 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:28,679 Spirit. We're going to have a fog, a mist, 666 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:32,039 which is going to fall slowly over the entrance, 667 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:36,839 and in this white space, on the wall, are going to be messages. 668 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:41,640 In the middle of this space, a question - "How shall I live?" 669 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,439 A whole zone with just a question, "How shall I live?" 670 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,279 seems, to put it mildly, an extravagant use of space. 671 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:50,959 It's a big question, Simon. 672 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,800 LAUGHTER But it's banal. 673 00:52:52,803 --> 00:52:56,039 I think the question, "How shall I live?" is anything but banal. 674 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,279 In fact, I think it's the biggest single question, probably, 675 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,000 that's begged in the entire dome. 676 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,439 But rather than going for the iconic look, 677 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:10,719 we go for something like that, 678 00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:12,479 then there's actually no advantage 679 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:13,879 in it coming down from above. 680 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,720 We can make it floor-supported. Yeah. 681 00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:32,560 It looks like an immense book shelf. 682 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,079 Is it meant to look like a book shelf? 683 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:37,120 That's no good. 684 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,919 Oh, man, you didn't see Casualty Sunday, did you? 685 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,679 No. I'm dying to know what happened. 686 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,440 I was really getting into it last night and the tape went off. 687 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,680 And it was about a man who, erm... 688 00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,519 He was having his house repossessed... Yeah. 689 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,119 ..and he had a wife and two children, 690 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:06,479 a son of seven and a daughter of 16 months, 691 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,439 and he got a shotgun, and he decided the best way for all of 'em 692 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:11,679 was to shoot 'em all. 693 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,119 Oh! That's nice! 694 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,200 So he chased after his wife and he shot her in the shoulder. 695 00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,999 We've now got companies going out of business 696 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,999 or having equipment standing 697 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,599 and people having to be made redundant. 698 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,439 Why do you think the water companies have cut back 699 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,560 on their sewage renewal programme? 700 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:11,359 HE SIGHS 701 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:16,199 Basically to enhance their balance sheet, their accounts. 702 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,159 They may have wanted to use the... 703 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:19,599 Their profit figures, in other words. 704 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,479 Well, their profit figures, yes, and to keep the share value up. 705 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,600 It's a help in the City. 706 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,319 Has someone gone up to get the bride? 707 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:55,400 Not that I'm aware of. 708 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,600 ROMANTIC MUSIC 709 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,280 ..the promises you're about to make to each other. 710 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:27,520 Are you coping here? 711 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:29,879 You're sweating already. 712 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:30,920 LAUGHTER 713 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,160 Carry on. Stay with me. 714 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,680 LAUGHTER AND CHATTER 715 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,280 OK, OK, concentrate now. 716 00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,159 Because we haven't got conviction ourselves, 717 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,999 saying, "Well, if we put the story, the literal story of Christianity 718 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,919 "along this wall, that'll keep them happy, and if we do this here, 719 00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:01,479 "that'll keep them happy..." 720 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,479 No, hold on, Michael, I'm just asking, 721 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,439 can we hear again what I said? 722 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:07,759 We have a brief. 723 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,599 Can you see the flying creatures? 724 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,519 Oh, yes. So, Derek made it in the end, did he? 725 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,040 Derek made a good... 726 00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,039 That's one zone out of 14. 727 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,039 But if that's one zone... 728 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,999 Ah, the spirit zone. 729 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:24,399 Can you get me Number 10? 730 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,240 It's the Prime Minister... OK. 731 00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,440 Hello. Guess where I am? 732 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,280 I'm in the middle of the dome. 733 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,680 Oh, it's marvellous. Absolutely marvellous. 734 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,679 Oh, no, you'll think it's incredible. Believe me. 735 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,439 There's a zone with lots of emblems of Britain in it. 736 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,839 I suddenly saw a photograph of a plate of toad in the hole. 737 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,919 I loved toad in the hole when I was little. 738 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,720 I haven't had toad in the hole since I was probably six years old. 739 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:25,520 ♪ There'll be times I find myself 740 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:35,039 ♪ Thinking of committing some dreadful crime 741 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,679 ♪ Yes, I've got many rivers to cross... ♪ 742 00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,679 Doesn't move me. Doesn't move you? 743 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:41,720 No. 744 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,999 I think it's a bit wallpapery, myself, if I'm absolutely honest. 745 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,279 Leaves me cold. Yeah, absolutely. Me too. 746 00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,319 ♪ If you're ready for me, boy 747 00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,959 ♪ You'd better push the button and let me know 748 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:58,839 ♪ Before I get the wrong idea and go 749 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,839 ♪ You're gonna miss the freak that I control 750 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,919 ♪ I'm busy showing him what he's been missing 751 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,679 ♪ I'm kind of showing off for his full attention 752 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,479 ♪ My sexy butt has got him in a new dimension 753 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,479 ♪ Ready to do something to relieve this mission 754 00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:22,079 ♪ After waiting patiently for him to come and get it 755 00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,879 ♪ He came on through and asked me if I wanted to get with him 756 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:29,599 ♪ I knew I had my mind made up from the very beginning 757 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:33,959 ♪ Won't miss this opportunity so you and me could feel it cos 758 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,919 ♪ If you're ready for me, boy 759 00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,839 ♪ You'd better push the button and let me know... ♪ 760 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:41,880 Just say no. 761 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:44,520 Just say no. 762 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:50,039 I went to Tenerife about two years ago and I actually took 14 bags, 763 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,560 one for every day, to match all my different outfits. 764 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,079 I want a Chanel bag really desperately, 765 00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,959 and I think I'll get one when I go to Milan in the summer 766 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,759 cos obviously they'll be just that bit cheaper. 767 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:05,800 The furthest I'm prepared to go to buy a handbag is New York. 768 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,959 Gucci, Gucci, Gucci, Gucci. 769 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,600 I'm going to take the lid off and let's see what's inside. 770 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,519 Very gently. 771 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:22,239 Margaret Thatcher's handbag is in this box. 772 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:23,520 There we go. 773 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,479 And here we are. 774 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,560 So, here is Margaret Thatcher's handbag. 775 01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:37,799 When the conservator opened the handbag, 776 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:43,559 it had a very strong aroma of Margaret Thatcher's perfume. 777 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,000 Come on, Brett dog. 778 01:00:58,440 --> 01:00:59,560 HE WHISTLES 779 01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:11,239 So what you want is somebody who is prepared to invest in the business. 780 01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:16,599 Yeah. Now, perhaps there is somebody with manufacturing capacity 781 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,759 who may understand the horse trailer business as well. 782 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,319 So you're saying I don't? No, I'm saying... 783 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,239 So you're saying I'm going to educate somebody else 784 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:25,519 to do it for me? 785 01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,880 I'm saying, I'm saying... Well, why not? Why not? 786 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:30,399 What? Why not? 787 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:31,520 KEITH SCOFFS 788 01:01:31,521 --> 01:01:32,640 Why? Why should I? 789 01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,559 I know you think I'm a wanker because something's gone wrong 790 01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:40,439 with the business... No, that's where you are very wrong... but I am very, very good at my job. 791 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,919 That's where you're very wrong, exceptionally wrong. 792 01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,119 If I thought you was a wanker, you wouldn't be here now. 793 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:46,639 And I wouldn't be sitting here either. 794 01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,119 Paul would not be here. Let me make that very clear. 795 01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,119 If I thought you was a wanker, I wouldn't be supporting you, 796 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:52,679 I wouldn't be trying to help you. 797 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:54,959 What you want is not realistic. 798 01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,519 No? No, it isn't. 799 01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,039 Well, I don't want much out of this world, only a bit of peace, 800 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:01,960 so I want to go home now and let me dog out. 801 01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:05,880 That was a waste of time. Yeah. 802 01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:14,639 Who can you trust? 803 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,679 When there's money involved, who can you trust? 804 01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,920 You can't, cos money rules everything. 805 01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:32,439 HE WHISTLES 806 01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,240 Brett! HE WHISTLES 807 01:02:34,243 --> 01:02:36,719 WHIMSICAL, UPBEAT MUSIC 808 01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,399 This year, I've heard bits that I've never heard before. 809 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:40,759 There's actually a little backbeat 810 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,839 to it that no-one else knows is there 811 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,639 and I sit there humming along to this backbeat, 812 01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,279 and everyone's saying, "Well, that's not the music," 813 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,039 but if you listen closely, it's actually there. 814 01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:49,759 I only found that last... 815 01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:50,999 ..this year. 816 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,359 So, that's three years of listening to it, so... 817 01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,359 But as you go around, people listen, 818 01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,879 and then they actually play it out on the area now. 819 01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,039 You know they have these little musical bins out there? 820 01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,039 They've got the Toyland music coming out there, 821 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,959 so you can't even get away from it when you go out there now. 822 01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:06,800 Er... MUSIC CONTINUES 823 01:03:06,803 --> 01:03:11,360 You know this repetitive strain, stress thing that's about now? 824 01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,799 I'll be surprised if somebody doesn't claim it for their hearing. 825 01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:16,840 HE CHUCKLES 826 01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,119 When you wake up in the middle of the night hearing the music, 827 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:21,360 it's time to pack up. 828 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:23,439 Oh... 829 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,120 MUSIC CONTINUES 830 01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,599 ♪ Some folks say he's crazy Some folks say he's mad 831 01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,159 ♪ Others say that it's the best deal that they've ever had. ♪ 832 01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:02,999 You know, the other stores in the UK think Crazy George is really crazy. 833 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,799 How come? Well, at Crazy George's, you can buy furnishings, 834 01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,320 appliances and home entertainments, and the right... 835 01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,680 RHYTHMIC CLAPPING 836 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:38,519 CHEERING 837 01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:42,799 Together, we have come a long way since 1997, 838 01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,720 but we have only just begun. 839 01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:50,399 We will never lose sight of that ambition we all share 840 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,999 to right wrongs, to end injustices, to meet new needs, 841 01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,199 to give life to our people's hopes, 842 01:04:56,200 --> 01:05:00,119 the millions who share with us a faith and a belief 843 01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,839 in something bigger than ourselves. 844 01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:07,639 Together, as a party, as a country, under Tony Blair's leadership, 845 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:12,079 we can build the new Great Britain of great opportunity for all. 846 01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:16,480 Join us - we have only just begun. 847 01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:44,239 PA CHIMES 848 01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,400 Housekeeper to reception, please. Housekeeper to reception. 849 01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:53,999 I wanted to go piss all the time I've been in the ambulance... 850 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,200 Yeah, I know, John, but they're going to need a sample, honestly. 851 01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,560 Yeah, well, you never know when you're going to get out of here. 852 01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,920 Been up here so many times. Heh. 853 01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:26,959 You know when you were in charge at HSBC? 854 01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:28,359 No, I've no comment to make, I'm sorry. 855 01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,279 Your bankers were helping people dodge tax. 856 01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:31,839 Why did you let them do that? 857 01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,199 As I think I've explained, I'm not prepared to make any comments 858 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:36,839 on HSBC's business, past or present. 859 01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:38,759 I'm sorry. I know, but you sort of have to because, at the time, 860 01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,839 you were on millions of pounds and yet the taxpayer was missing out 861 01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:43,759 because of things that you were allowing to happen. 862 01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:44,799 How can you defend that? 863 01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,399 I'm sorry, I'm not prepared to make any comment on HSBC. 864 01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,639 You need to talk to HSBC. I think you have to, sir. 865 01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:51,119 Let me ask you another question. 866 01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,079 After all that had gone on HSBC, 867 01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,079 you then got promoted to the Government. 868 01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:56,279 You must have been amazed. 869 01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,759 You need to talk to HSBC. I'm sorry. 870 01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,159 But do you think you, given what's happened at HSBC, 871 01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,079 are a fit and proper person to sit in the Lords? 872 01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:07,919 I'm sorry, as I said before, I think if you want to talk to HSBC 873 01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,319 about their business, you must talk to them. 874 01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:11,359 I'm not prepared, 875 01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,279 I think it's inappropriate... But you were in charge, so why will 876 01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,079 you not just tell us what you think? ..for me to make any comment about 877 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,719 the business of HSBC. But the people who watch our programme at Panorama, 878 01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,119 they pay their taxes, and if they don't, they find themselves 879 01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,479 in trouble, and your bank was helping people dodge tax. 880 01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,039 I'm sorry, I think you need to talk to HSBC about... 881 01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:27,280 One word, sir... these matters. 882 01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:29,640 Any word? 883 01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,200 Anything you can say that defends what happened? 884 01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:42,880 No word. 885 01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:07,280 HORSE GRUNTS 886 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:16,920 Come on. 887 01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:21,920 Come on. We've been here 30 years, nearly. Come on. 888 01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:25,879 Come on, come on, come on. 889 01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:27,639 Get up. Come on. 890 01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:31,359 Come on, come on, come on. 891 01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:32,820 HORSE GRUNTS 892 01:08:32,821 --> 01:08:34,280 Come on, come on. 893 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:37,319 He's not going to get up, is he? 894 01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:38,599 No, he ain't going to get up. 895 01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:40,560 He ain't going to get up with his feet there. 896 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,159 I think he's just worn out, isn't he? Yeah. 897 01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,200 HE BREATHES TEARFULLY 898 01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:53,560 Good boy, Scrubs. 899 01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:00,320 Good boy. 900 01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:07,439 I know. 901 01:09:07,440 --> 01:09:09,000 I know, I know. 902 01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:18,759 The Queen. Where? Where's the...? 903 01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:19,919 Oh, there she is. There she is. 904 01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,160 DRAMATIC MUSIC 905 01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,440 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 906 01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,079 At the time, up until at least the mid-'70s, 907 01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:35,560 really felt that we were still living under the, er... 908 01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:43,119 ..or in the guise of a single and absolute created society 909 01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:46,999 where there were known truths and known lies, 910 01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:51,319 and there was no kind of duplicity or pluralism about the things 911 01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:52,559 that we believed in. 912 01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,079 That started to break down rapidly in the '70s, 913 01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:58,719 and the idea of a duality in the way that we live, 914 01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:03,879 in there are always two, three, four, five sides to every question, 915 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:07,599 the singularity disappeared and that, I believe, 916 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,439 has produced such a medium as the internet, 917 01:13:10,440 --> 01:13:15,519 which absolutely establishes and shows us that we are living 918 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:19,239 in total fragmentation and that we have to become comfortable 919 01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,719 with the idea because it's not going to go away. 920 01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:26,359 It has been revealed that that's how we live - in chaos - 921 01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:27,719 and we have to get used to it, 922 01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:31,239 and understand it and work with it, and sort of surf it. 923 01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:34,239 I don't think we've even seen the tip of the iceberg. 924 01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:39,319 I think the potential of what the internet is going to do to society, 925 01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:42,920 both good and bad, is unimaginable. 926 01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:47,119 I think we're actually on the cusp of something 927 01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:49,240 exhilarating and terrifying. 928 01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:52,079 It's just a tool, though, isn't it? 929 01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:54,119 No, it's not. No. 930 01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:56,120 No, it's an alien life form. 931 01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:10,320 ♪ If our love song 932 01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:14,560 ♪ Can fly over mountains 933 01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,760 ♪ Can sail over heartaches 934 01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:22,360 ♪ Just like the films 935 01:15:23,440 --> 01:15:27,000 ♪ If there's reason 936 01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,280 ♪ To feel all the hard times 937 01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:35,440 ♪ To lay down the hard lines 938 01:15:36,480 --> 01:15:40,879 ♪ It's absolutely true 939 01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:44,000 ♪ Bop-bop-ba-ooo 940 01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:48,240 ♪ Bop-bop-ba-ooo 941 01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:52,320 ♪ Bop-bop-ba-ooo 942 01:15:53,480 --> 01:15:56,240 ♪ Bop-bop-ba-ooo 943 01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:16,640 ♪ Bop-bop-ba-ooo 944 01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:21,759 ♪ Bop-bop-ba-ooo 945 01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:24,680 ♪ Bop-bop-ba-ooo 946 01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:29,040 ♪ Bop-bop-ba-ooo 947 01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:32,440 ♪ Bop-bop-ba-ooo... ♪