1 00:00:59,993 --> 00:01:02,427 Should I keep the suction, in case? 2 00:01:04,097 --> 00:01:06,964 We'll wrap him up dry, okay? It's rough! 3 00:01:08,602 --> 00:01:10,229 Boy or girl? 4 00:01:11,171 --> 00:01:12,502 Boy! 5 00:01:12,673 --> 00:01:14,300 There you go! 6 00:01:20,047 --> 00:01:21,708 See his long nails? 7 00:01:25,018 --> 00:01:26,576 Hi there. 8 00:01:34,561 --> 00:01:36,256 Has it been born? 9 00:01:36,930 --> 00:01:38,591 What? 10 00:01:38,765 --> 00:01:41,757 - What is it? - A little boy! 11 00:01:41,935 --> 00:01:44,130 A boy. Okay! 12 00:01:44,304 --> 00:01:46,363 Congratulations, sweetheart. 13 00:01:57,884 --> 00:01:59,749 Black hair... 14 00:02:05,525 --> 00:02:07,390 Did you think it was a boy? 15 00:02:07,561 --> 00:02:09,825 Just before, I started to. 16 00:02:10,364 --> 00:02:11,991 Sorry, I have to go. 17 00:02:12,633 --> 00:02:16,228 I don't know, darling. I left the room when the phone rang, 18 00:02:16,403 --> 00:02:19,167 and we're not allowed to use phones here. 19 00:02:19,339 --> 00:02:22,308 So my being out here is a little... 20 00:02:22,476 --> 00:02:25,070 But I'll go back in, okay? 21 00:03:30,110 --> 00:03:32,544 First prize goes to Argentina's Martha argerich. 22 00:03:32,713 --> 00:03:34,977 Besides this prize, she has won many others, 23 00:03:35,148 --> 00:03:38,379 including for the "most Polish" mazurka performance. 24 00:03:38,552 --> 00:03:40,452 It's amazing Latin pianists 25 00:03:40,620 --> 00:03:44,147 understand chopin with such a Polish sensibility. 26 00:03:47,627 --> 00:03:50,187 Not so close to the camera, sweetheart! 27 00:03:55,001 --> 00:03:56,366 Hello? 28 00:04:02,943 --> 00:04:04,604 No, now he's confused. 29 00:04:07,647 --> 00:04:11,139 Do you remember how it was when you were pregnant? 30 00:04:12,586 --> 00:04:15,487 Do you feel like you played differently? 31 00:04:15,655 --> 00:04:17,282 A bit slower. 32 00:04:19,860 --> 00:04:21,350 It felt that way. 33 00:04:22,129 --> 00:04:23,494 Yes... 34 00:04:25,632 --> 00:04:27,327 Barely. 35 00:04:27,501 --> 00:04:30,561 Not so much... The way I usually play, you know. 36 00:04:31,905 --> 00:04:33,532 With a little bit of a forward lean. 37 00:04:33,707 --> 00:04:36,767 Instead of being very... I always lean forward. 38 00:04:36,943 --> 00:04:40,310 You know, like writing. Rushing forward. 39 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:45,213 Like writing which is like that. Instead of being... like this. 40 00:04:45,385 --> 00:04:48,047 So I usually play like this, not like this. 41 00:04:49,189 --> 00:04:52,852 And, okay, when I was pregnant, it was more like this. 42 00:04:53,727 --> 00:04:56,389 Not really like this, but like this. 43 00:04:56,563 --> 00:04:59,123 I did my ravel record, gaspard de la nuit, 44 00:04:59,900 --> 00:05:01,595 and then... 45 00:05:01,768 --> 00:05:03,326 You were in my belly. 46 00:05:04,271 --> 00:05:06,068 I think I was in the sixth month, 47 00:05:06,239 --> 00:05:08,002 or the seventh, something like that. 48 00:05:09,075 --> 00:05:10,940 And when they sent me a copy - 49 00:05:11,111 --> 00:05:14,774 it's one of my most popular records - 50 00:05:15,582 --> 00:05:18,449 but when I received it, I almost cried. 51 00:05:19,252 --> 00:05:22,551 I said, "it sounds..." 52 00:05:22,722 --> 00:05:24,883 I received it much later. You had already been born. 53 00:05:25,058 --> 00:05:28,186 I said, "it sounds like a pregnant housewife!" 54 00:05:28,895 --> 00:05:31,796 It's not remotely suggestive, and not... 55 00:05:31,965 --> 00:05:35,628 You know, that thing that's a little demonic, a little... 56 00:05:35,802 --> 00:05:38,930 I'm expecting it in that piece, 57 00:05:39,105 --> 00:05:42,632 because you don't know when scarbo is going to appear. 58 00:05:42,809 --> 00:05:46,802 He's a kind of gnome, a kind of demon, right? 59 00:05:46,980 --> 00:05:48,607 And then "ondine"... 60 00:05:48,782 --> 00:05:50,010 Is ondine. 61 00:05:50,750 --> 00:05:52,581 You know what an ondine is. 62 00:08:54,367 --> 00:08:55,994 I like that. 63 00:13:27,106 --> 00:13:28,767 It's lovely fruit, isn't it? 64 00:13:29,842 --> 00:13:31,901 But I think it's a little... 65 00:13:46,392 --> 00:13:49,725 I don't have a person for whom - 66 00:13:49,896 --> 00:13:52,330 Vitaly always said it was important - 67 00:13:52,498 --> 00:13:54,625 for whom I'm really... 68 00:13:56,169 --> 00:13:57,898 Important, you know? 69 00:14:00,206 --> 00:14:01,833 You mean a man? 70 00:14:02,008 --> 00:14:03,942 Something that's... 71 00:14:06,579 --> 00:14:08,342 Yes. 72 00:14:08,514 --> 00:14:11,312 Do you think you miss being with someone? 73 00:14:13,286 --> 00:14:15,049 My children are grown up, 74 00:14:15,221 --> 00:14:17,416 with their own lives. That's different, too. 75 00:14:17,590 --> 00:14:20,525 I'm no longer important for them, either. 76 00:14:20,693 --> 00:14:21,955 It's the same thing. 77 00:14:23,830 --> 00:14:25,127 And... 78 00:14:26,299 --> 00:14:27,926 You know. 79 00:14:32,438 --> 00:14:35,498 I work too much, and I travel too much, 80 00:14:36,309 --> 00:14:37,674 and it's a little... 81 00:14:43,549 --> 00:14:46,541 That doesn't really interest me, but I don't know... 82 00:14:46,719 --> 00:14:48,277 There's something strange. 83 00:14:49,589 --> 00:14:51,420 I think it's got to do with... 84 00:14:53,893 --> 00:14:55,622 Age, or something. 85 00:14:55,795 --> 00:14:58,696 But at the same time, I need quiet, too. 86 00:15:08,741 --> 00:15:10,299 - You look great. - I don't. 87 00:15:10,476 --> 00:15:12,774 You do, for someone who just got up. 88 00:15:12,945 --> 00:15:15,675 Nonsense, I didn't sleep well. 89 00:15:16,749 --> 00:15:18,580 I'm terribly nervous. 90 00:15:18,751 --> 00:15:21,117 Really? That happens when you play chopin. 91 00:15:21,287 --> 00:15:22,618 Yes, but mostly... 92 00:15:23,389 --> 00:15:26,722 That's not the problem. The problem is deeper, I think. 93 00:15:28,394 --> 00:15:30,328 - You see? - Also. 94 00:15:30,496 --> 00:15:33,329 I'm telling you my problem is a bit deeper. 95 00:15:35,334 --> 00:15:38,701 I don't know what to do about it, but it's urgent. 96 00:15:40,206 --> 00:15:41,764 It is pretty urgent. 97 00:15:43,309 --> 00:15:45,539 I'm getting sad, depressed, 98 00:15:45,711 --> 00:15:49,670 and I'm not taking pleasure in my life, you know? 99 00:15:54,420 --> 00:15:56,047 And... I don't laugh enough. 100 00:15:56,989 --> 00:15:59,514 I feel like I'm making an effort, and I don't know why. 101 00:16:00,493 --> 00:16:02,620 I mean, there isn't much reward. 102 00:16:03,529 --> 00:16:06,225 Because everything is bla, bla, bla. 103 00:16:06,399 --> 00:16:07,889 Okay, but there's something 104 00:16:08,968 --> 00:16:12,495 which is truly not right, not at all. 105 00:16:13,940 --> 00:16:15,567 And that's why... 106 00:16:19,178 --> 00:16:20,178 What are you looking for? 107 00:16:28,554 --> 00:16:30,818 One thing is for certain: When you play, you're happy. 108 00:16:30,990 --> 00:16:32,321 - That depends. - Afterward. 109 00:16:32,492 --> 00:16:35,120 It depends what I've played, and how. 110 00:16:35,294 --> 00:16:38,923 Before, it's a disaster. No, it depends what I play, and how. 111 00:16:39,098 --> 00:16:40,895 - But after the concert... - It depends. 112 00:16:41,067 --> 00:16:43,001 Even so, I've rarely seen you... 113 00:16:45,037 --> 00:16:46,717 I've always seen you happy after a concert. 114 00:16:46,839 --> 00:16:48,602 Yes, but it depends. 115 00:16:48,774 --> 00:16:50,503 Okay, leave it. Go live your life. 116 00:16:50,676 --> 00:16:52,769 "Go live your life!" 117 00:16:52,945 --> 00:16:55,539 Oh, but you are my life. 118 00:16:55,715 --> 00:16:57,706 That's not true. 119 00:16:57,884 --> 00:16:59,408 You're part of it, anyway. 120 00:16:59,952 --> 00:17:03,285 - A big part. - Really? Big? 121 00:17:03,456 --> 00:17:04,821 Yes. 122 00:26:24,583 --> 00:26:26,778 One, two, three, four... 123 00:28:17,663 --> 00:28:21,292 Often, people say it's impossible to be a mother 124 00:28:21,466 --> 00:28:25,300 and to really lead an artistic life, 125 00:28:25,470 --> 00:28:27,461 to be able to do both. 126 00:28:27,639 --> 00:28:29,903 Many people think it's impossible. 127 00:28:33,845 --> 00:28:35,107 I don't know. 128 00:28:36,381 --> 00:28:39,145 Okay, my first try at motherhood wasn't a success. 129 00:28:39,318 --> 00:28:41,411 But, I mean, at the time... 130 00:28:41,587 --> 00:28:43,851 But with Annie and you, 131 00:28:44,022 --> 00:28:45,887 I managed it, I think. 132 00:28:46,058 --> 00:28:49,789 I did have a lot of help, too. And I wasn't in a couple. 133 00:28:49,962 --> 00:28:52,931 I think that is possibly a little easier. 134 00:28:55,367 --> 00:28:57,927 Because very often, it's not... 135 00:28:58,904 --> 00:29:01,702 I'm not going to bad-mouth couples. 136 00:29:01,873 --> 00:29:04,808 But it's often not a help, you see, 137 00:29:04,977 --> 00:29:06,467 in such matters. 138 00:29:08,247 --> 00:29:11,307 There's always a kind of problem 139 00:29:11,483 --> 00:29:14,077 between her duty as an international soloist 140 00:29:14,253 --> 00:29:17,051 and her true desire to do it, you see. 141 00:29:17,222 --> 00:29:19,349 - To live her life as a woman, too. - Yes, that's it. 142 00:29:19,524 --> 00:29:23,961 But how do you manage that, because we know it's not... 143 00:29:24,129 --> 00:29:25,892 We haven't managed it yet! 144 00:29:26,064 --> 00:29:29,727 Honestly, we're still trying to manage it. 145 00:29:29,901 --> 00:29:32,335 It's not yet properly organized, actually. 146 00:29:32,504 --> 00:29:35,496 At one time, you didn't see each other much, 147 00:29:35,674 --> 00:29:38,006 with one playing in New York and the other in Tokyo. 148 00:29:38,176 --> 00:29:41,805 Especially the first two years. Now, it's better. 149 00:29:41,980 --> 00:29:45,279 We have the same manager, so he tries to organize it. 150 00:29:45,450 --> 00:29:48,385 When I'm playing not with Charles, he's free, 151 00:29:48,553 --> 00:29:51,545 and if he's conducting and I'm not playing, 152 00:29:51,723 --> 00:29:54,487 I'm free. Then we can accompany each other. 153 00:29:54,660 --> 00:29:58,061 Because concert tours aren't pleasure trips, 154 00:29:58,230 --> 00:30:00,892 and you can't combine tourism and work? 155 00:30:01,066 --> 00:30:04,035 We can't take our daughter when we're working. 156 00:30:04,202 --> 00:30:07,763 How could we stay at the hotel when we have rehearsals? 157 00:30:07,939 --> 00:30:10,908 What would she do while we worked? It's impossible. 158 00:30:11,076 --> 00:30:12,543 Three... 159 00:30:12,711 --> 00:30:13,711 Four? 160 00:30:13,879 --> 00:30:16,643 No, four. See? 161 00:31:58,850 --> 00:32:01,876 - Annie, please! - Stéphanie, be careful! 162 00:32:03,288 --> 00:32:04,915 I got burned the other day. 163 00:32:05,791 --> 00:32:09,420 Be careful, don't move like that. You'll spill the coffee! 164 00:32:09,594 --> 00:32:11,152 Enough, thank you. 165 00:32:12,531 --> 00:32:14,965 No, I don't like that! 166 00:33:17,162 --> 00:33:18,493 Not too close, dad. 167 00:33:18,663 --> 00:33:21,632 When it's too close, is that not good? 168 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,461 No, it's not good. 169 00:33:31,943 --> 00:33:34,503 What's with you and that machine? 170 00:34:06,011 --> 00:34:07,808 We'll movie-kiss. 171 00:34:38,076 --> 00:34:41,739 We had a very unconventional lifestyle, 172 00:34:41,913 --> 00:34:43,278 and that was a good thing. 173 00:34:44,015 --> 00:34:45,573 But I remember 174 00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:48,913 that mom basically didn't want us to go to school. 175 00:34:49,721 --> 00:34:52,212 She'd say, "why go to school? Stay!" 176 00:34:52,390 --> 00:34:55,257 Always: "Stay!" I'd say, "no! I'm going!" 177 00:34:55,427 --> 00:34:58,225 So, rebelling was, "I'm going to school!" 178 00:34:58,396 --> 00:35:02,890 Once, I remember coming home from school with a bad test score, 179 00:35:03,068 --> 00:35:07,437 and mom had no clue about the marking system. 180 00:35:07,606 --> 00:35:10,439 I had a terrible Mark, 3 or 2, 181 00:35:10,609 --> 00:35:14,170 out of a possible 6. Or 2.5, I don't know. 182 00:35:14,346 --> 00:35:18,407 So I showed it to mom, "see, I got 2.5." 183 00:35:18,583 --> 00:35:21,347 She said, "bravo!". It was cute. 184 00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:23,146 "But that's not good." 185 00:35:26,491 --> 00:35:27,958 So, then... 186 00:35:29,861 --> 00:35:33,763 And you, for example, never went to school. 187 00:35:33,932 --> 00:35:36,594 At first, I remember, in kindergarten... 188 00:35:37,836 --> 00:35:40,703 But then you went for two weeks out of the year. 189 00:35:40,872 --> 00:35:44,035 Your teachers would always come up to me... 190 00:35:44,209 --> 00:35:47,576 He rolled over! He rolled over the first time! 191 00:35:48,747 --> 00:35:50,476 Bravo! 192 00:35:54,419 --> 00:35:57,820 So, you never went to school, and your teachers hounded me. 193 00:35:57,989 --> 00:36:01,288 I always had to write your notes, because mom... 194 00:36:01,459 --> 00:36:04,360 I was little, but I wrote them and then mom... 195 00:36:04,529 --> 00:36:08,090 Basically copied what I had written. 196 00:36:08,266 --> 00:36:10,325 "Please excuse my daughter stéphanie 197 00:36:10,502 --> 00:36:12,993 who couldn't attend today, as she isill." 198 00:36:13,171 --> 00:36:15,332 Nonsense! I wrote that! 199 00:36:15,507 --> 00:36:16,906 And, "best regards." 200 00:36:17,075 --> 00:36:19,805 I'd ask mom to write and sign it, and she would, 201 00:36:19,978 --> 00:36:22,310 and then you'd bring it to school. 202 00:38:14,392 --> 00:38:16,451 Look how lovely juanita is! 203 00:38:16,628 --> 00:38:18,255 There's not enough light here. 204 00:38:18,429 --> 00:38:22,024 How is that possible? We'll bring her to the light. 205 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,998 What do you think of the grandmother I've brought you? 206 00:38:52,130 --> 00:38:55,361 I look awful! Why are you... I look awful today. 207 00:38:55,533 --> 00:38:57,160 No, you don't. 208 00:39:47,585 --> 00:39:48,745 Do you feel anything? 209 00:39:55,193 --> 00:39:58,390 The botanic gardens. My father and I came here all the time. 210 00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:02,992 This is where we came all the time. 211 00:40:03,167 --> 00:40:06,295 All my childhood photos were taken here. 212 00:40:07,272 --> 00:40:10,139 Let's look at the plants. It's fantastic! 213 00:40:12,410 --> 00:40:14,173 Let me look at the plants. 214 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,674 Let's try to share something. 215 00:40:20,318 --> 00:40:22,809 It's very hard to film and share. 216 00:40:31,529 --> 00:40:35,522 He took me here for a walk almost every day, 217 00:40:35,700 --> 00:40:38,066 and he did magic tricks for me. 218 00:40:38,236 --> 00:40:42,229 He always made candies appear from my head, like that. 219 00:40:43,274 --> 00:40:45,265 He told me lots of stories. 220 00:40:45,443 --> 00:40:47,070 It was very amusing. 221 00:40:49,180 --> 00:40:50,977 He was always with me. 222 00:40:51,149 --> 00:40:52,912 He really loved it. 223 00:41:22,547 --> 00:41:23,673 And here? 224 00:41:23,848 --> 00:41:26,339 Why won't she let us comb her hair? 225 00:41:27,018 --> 00:41:29,885 Because it straightens out her curls! 226 00:41:30,355 --> 00:41:31,788 I didn't like it. 227 00:41:31,956 --> 00:41:35,619 She has a lot of personality, but she respects... 228 00:41:39,063 --> 00:41:42,624 The stern gaze of her dear papa. 229 00:41:43,868 --> 00:41:46,996 She is very affectionate and diplomatic. 230 00:41:48,906 --> 00:41:51,272 She says things without saying them. 231 00:41:51,442 --> 00:41:53,069 Already! 232 00:41:55,146 --> 00:41:59,105 Her mixture of mischief and naiveté 233 00:42:00,618 --> 00:42:02,381 makes her delightful. 234 00:42:02,553 --> 00:42:04,180 Very funny. 235 00:42:05,089 --> 00:42:06,750 He always took care of me. 236 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,096 I think he didn't let my mother, that's the problem. 237 00:42:13,264 --> 00:42:14,264 Look... 238 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:16,833 You look a lot like her. 239 00:42:18,603 --> 00:42:20,764 She looks like a Polish lady. 240 00:42:20,938 --> 00:42:22,963 My mother? Absolutely, right? 241 00:42:24,909 --> 00:42:26,308 All pale. 242 00:42:26,477 --> 00:42:28,570 Very elegant, very put together. 243 00:42:28,746 --> 00:42:30,043 Yes, impeccable. 244 00:42:31,049 --> 00:42:33,415 I remember that at one point, 245 00:42:33,584 --> 00:42:35,814 he wrote that you changed when you started piano. 246 00:42:35,987 --> 00:42:37,921 I don't know which photo that is. 247 00:42:38,089 --> 00:42:41,650 That my personality had changed; I had been so joyful, 248 00:42:41,826 --> 00:42:45,227 and then I became a little... 249 00:42:46,130 --> 00:42:47,927 "Sad and preoccupied", 250 00:42:48,099 --> 00:42:49,999 something like that. 251 00:42:57,809 --> 00:43:00,039 How old were you when you played that? 252 00:43:00,211 --> 00:43:03,647 I played this in public at four years old. 253 00:43:03,815 --> 00:43:05,077 And this. 254 00:43:15,393 --> 00:43:20,558 What do you remember from that unusual childhood? 255 00:43:20,731 --> 00:43:22,255 It's a combination of things, 256 00:43:26,037 --> 00:43:28,835 some very good, and some frustrating, 257 00:43:29,006 --> 00:43:31,975 because I didn't like working on the piano. 258 00:43:32,710 --> 00:43:34,678 I wanted to be a doctor. 259 00:43:35,613 --> 00:43:39,310 Did grandma go with you when you competed? 260 00:43:39,484 --> 00:43:41,111 No, I went all by myself. 261 00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:45,314 No, I really wanted to be alone. 262 00:43:46,357 --> 00:43:49,952 And when people asked me about someone I resembled - 263 00:43:51,729 --> 00:43:54,664 "what relation is he?" I would say, "that's my cousin." 264 00:43:54,832 --> 00:43:58,700 I always wanted to create confusion 265 00:44:00,037 --> 00:44:01,698 about my family matters. 266 00:44:01,873 --> 00:44:04,501 I didn't want to be the "daughter", "fiancée", 267 00:44:04,675 --> 00:44:06,734 or "girlfriend" of anyone. 268 00:44:06,911 --> 00:44:08,845 I was always trying to... 269 00:44:10,414 --> 00:44:12,678 It's weird, right? 270 00:44:14,085 --> 00:44:15,609 I didn't want that. 271 00:44:16,454 --> 00:44:18,820 She was very different. 272 00:44:18,990 --> 00:44:21,356 She was very active, in her own way. 273 00:44:21,526 --> 00:44:23,460 But she was also absent. 274 00:44:23,628 --> 00:44:27,928 She was, after all, quite an extravagant person. 275 00:44:28,699 --> 00:44:32,032 But as a mother, up close like this, 276 00:44:32,203 --> 00:44:34,967 we didn't have much physical contact. 277 00:44:35,139 --> 00:44:39,769 I might have been rejecting her, and she was very clumsy. 278 00:44:39,944 --> 00:44:43,038 Once, I remember she wanted to be affectionate 279 00:44:43,214 --> 00:44:45,580 and suddenly kissed my knee. 280 00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:48,150 Very bizarre. You see how she was? 281 00:44:48,319 --> 00:44:51,846 She was a bit strange. 282 00:44:52,657 --> 00:44:54,284 See? 283 00:44:54,458 --> 00:44:57,256 I don't remember her ever being... 284 00:44:57,428 --> 00:44:59,828 - Physical. - Right. 285 00:44:59,997 --> 00:45:02,261 But she scared me a little, too. 286 00:45:02,433 --> 00:45:07,063 I don't know if I was scared of her because you were always fighting, 287 00:45:07,238 --> 00:45:09,798 or because she really scared me. 288 00:45:09,974 --> 00:45:14,570 But I remember when grandma was coming, Annie and I weren't... 289 00:45:14,745 --> 00:45:18,613 We would hide way upstairs. We were a bit scared. 290 00:45:21,118 --> 00:45:23,382 - Because of her gaze? - I don't know. 291 00:45:26,958 --> 00:45:30,621 Don't do that! Take off your sunglasses! 292 00:45:30,795 --> 00:45:33,628 No! That's 1,000 times worse. 293 00:45:33,798 --> 00:45:35,766 - That not true! - Of course it is. 294 00:45:35,933 --> 00:45:38,868 I look like Mrs. chiang Kai-shek! 295 00:45:39,971 --> 00:45:41,632 I'm closing my eyes. 296 00:45:52,383 --> 00:45:55,409 Take as many pictures as you like, but no eyes. 297 00:46:06,364 --> 00:46:08,457 Open your eyes! 298 00:46:12,803 --> 00:46:14,737 They're so slanted, there's no way. 299 00:46:48,205 --> 00:46:52,938 Martha argerich, from Buenos Aires, won one of the top piano prizes. 300 00:47:24,675 --> 00:47:28,270 You know, it's something that's very hard to explain - 301 00:47:31,282 --> 00:47:35,582 what you feel when you leave it behind. 302 00:47:35,753 --> 00:47:37,311 It seems unreal. 303 00:47:37,488 --> 00:47:41,254 It seems like someone else did all that, not you. 304 00:47:42,226 --> 00:47:44,888 And you no longer have access 305 00:47:47,531 --> 00:47:49,829 to things to which you had access before. 306 00:47:50,901 --> 00:47:54,132 I don't know how to explain it. The relationship with the piano 307 00:47:54,305 --> 00:47:57,172 is so intimate, as you know, 308 00:47:57,341 --> 00:48:00,071 because I started playing before I turned three, 309 00:48:00,244 --> 00:48:03,702 so that makes it something that's hard to explain, 310 00:48:04,849 --> 00:48:06,714 that access to it. 311 00:48:07,885 --> 00:48:09,716 It's as though all of a sudden... 312 00:48:13,958 --> 00:48:15,619 I don't know how to explain it. 313 00:48:18,529 --> 00:48:20,360 It's like being used to running, a lot, 314 00:48:20,531 --> 00:48:24,968 and then all of a sudden, for a few years 315 00:48:25,136 --> 00:48:28,731 you don't even walk, or you can't. 316 00:48:28,906 --> 00:48:32,535 And then you start again. It's very strange. 317 00:48:39,250 --> 00:48:41,218 I felt like, at 17, 318 00:48:41,385 --> 00:48:43,717 I was living like a 40-year-old guy, 319 00:48:43,888 --> 00:48:45,515 traveling and giving concerts. 320 00:48:45,689 --> 00:48:48,556 I felt like my life didn't suit my age. 321 00:48:48,726 --> 00:48:52,594 And I was very dissatisfied with my artistic performance, 322 00:48:52,763 --> 00:48:55,527 because I wasn't working with anyone. 323 00:48:55,699 --> 00:48:57,462 I did nothing! 324 00:48:58,636 --> 00:49:02,868 I drank beer and watched late-night movies. 325 00:51:15,272 --> 00:51:18,332 Of course, my father didn't want me to play piano. 326 00:51:18,509 --> 00:51:20,909 I wanted to play piano, but he didn't want that. 327 00:51:22,046 --> 00:51:23,741 But then he said, 328 00:51:23,914 --> 00:51:27,748 "it's because you can't compete... 329 00:51:27,918 --> 00:51:30,978 "Or rather you mustn't play the same instrument as your mother." 330 00:51:31,155 --> 00:51:34,716 On some level I knew she was a pianist, 331 00:51:36,660 --> 00:51:38,855 but since we never talked about it, 332 00:51:39,029 --> 00:51:41,896 and I listened to one recording over and over... 333 00:51:43,067 --> 00:51:46,901 But that recording was my playmate. 334 00:51:47,738 --> 00:51:51,765 I'd put it on when I played with my figurines, 335 00:51:51,942 --> 00:51:53,739 my smurfs. 336 00:51:53,911 --> 00:51:56,072 I made up smurf stories 337 00:51:56,246 --> 00:51:59,215 set to prokofiev's third concerto. 338 00:51:59,383 --> 00:52:02,682 It was always like that. 339 00:52:02,853 --> 00:52:07,449 I'd play it over and over for an hour or two. 340 00:52:07,625 --> 00:52:12,426 When I met you, you were four or five, 341 00:52:12,596 --> 00:52:15,326 and Annie was 342 00:52:15,499 --> 00:52:18,832 a pre-teen with glasses. 343 00:52:19,003 --> 00:52:22,598 She was still an "ugly duckling", before she became 344 00:52:22,773 --> 00:52:26,709 the lovely swan we know today. 345 00:52:26,877 --> 00:52:28,504 Mom... 346 00:52:28,679 --> 00:52:32,308 Was a kind of... apparition, 347 00:52:33,150 --> 00:52:36,517 because this woman 348 00:52:36,687 --> 00:52:39,121 was supposed to be my mother, 349 00:52:39,289 --> 00:52:42,554 but... I don't know. It wasn't very concrete. 350 00:52:42,726 --> 00:52:46,218 The maternal aspect wasn't really there. 351 00:52:46,397 --> 00:52:48,865 I don't think she acted particularly maternal. 352 00:52:49,033 --> 00:52:53,094 She was more interested 353 00:52:54,738 --> 00:52:57,366 in me as a young adult, 354 00:52:57,541 --> 00:53:00,908 and she herself was still a young woman. 355 00:53:01,078 --> 00:53:05,947 There wasn't that much of a difference in our ages, I'd say. 356 00:53:10,888 --> 00:53:14,824 She was a friend, a confidante, with something extra. 357 00:53:17,695 --> 00:53:20,926 In any case, I had to get to know her. 358 00:53:26,637 --> 00:53:29,128 At the same time, she was a stranger. 359 00:53:30,774 --> 00:53:33,868 She was both familiar and a stranger. 360 00:53:48,759 --> 00:53:52,320 Incognito. Let's go. Do you have time for a coffee? 361 00:53:54,431 --> 00:53:57,332 I do, but I want to eat something. 362 00:53:57,501 --> 00:53:59,435 I want to go to the radio. 363 00:53:59,603 --> 00:54:01,230 To work there? Okay. 364 00:54:12,716 --> 00:54:15,048 This is rough going. 365 00:56:08,799 --> 00:56:12,428 In the situation with lyda, there was always a hindrance. 366 00:56:12,603 --> 00:56:15,663 I feel like there was... 367 00:56:16,974 --> 00:56:18,942 I didn't know how to be. 368 00:56:19,109 --> 00:56:21,236 I didn't really know what to do. 369 00:56:22,346 --> 00:56:24,610 I was always trying to get away from something 370 00:56:24,781 --> 00:56:27,375 or someone, at that time - 371 00:56:28,652 --> 00:56:30,381 the situation with my mother, 372 00:56:30,554 --> 00:56:33,921 the situation with lyda's dad, 373 00:56:34,091 --> 00:56:36,582 or the situation... It was always... 374 00:56:40,430 --> 00:56:42,261 You know. 375 00:56:42,432 --> 00:56:44,662 I don't know. It's hard to explain. 376 00:56:45,702 --> 00:56:48,432 I didn't even dare go to Geneva. 377 00:56:48,605 --> 00:56:50,664 If I got within 20 kilometers of it, 378 00:56:50,841 --> 00:56:53,036 my heart would start racing. 379 00:56:53,210 --> 00:56:55,110 I wouldn't go near it, I remember. 380 00:56:55,279 --> 00:56:57,873 So, when I started my relationship with Charlie... 381 00:56:58,048 --> 00:56:59,675 What were you afraid of? 382 00:57:02,185 --> 00:57:03,584 Something. 383 00:57:04,655 --> 00:57:06,282 I didn't want to go. 384 00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,761 But when he took her away from you in Brussels... 385 00:57:13,931 --> 00:57:16,661 I wasn't in Brussels, I was in Denmark. 386 00:57:16,833 --> 00:57:18,460 How did you... 387 00:57:23,273 --> 00:57:24,900 Very bizarre. 388 00:57:30,681 --> 00:57:33,115 She was your first child, after all. 389 00:57:33,283 --> 00:57:34,283 Yes. 390 00:57:38,221 --> 00:57:39,882 But how did you feel? 391 00:57:43,827 --> 00:57:45,454 I can't say. 392 00:57:49,433 --> 00:57:51,867 I remember I was overwhelmed, 393 00:57:52,970 --> 00:57:54,096 by everything. 394 00:57:54,271 --> 00:57:57,206 I remember one thing chen said to me. 395 00:57:58,108 --> 00:58:02,306 I had written to chen when I was in Brussels, 396 00:58:02,479 --> 00:58:06,040 saying that "I felt a little like lyda's sister," 397 00:58:07,050 --> 00:58:09,712 like I was her big sister. 398 00:58:09,886 --> 00:58:12,878 He used that against me, I think, because he thought... 399 00:58:13,957 --> 00:58:15,618 But that's how I felt. 400 00:58:15,792 --> 00:58:18,124 How can I explain it? 401 00:58:25,168 --> 00:58:28,035 I did have lyda against all odds. 402 00:58:31,541 --> 00:58:34,704 That's why I... I gave birth to lyda, I had her. 403 00:59:12,849 --> 00:59:14,476 Is it good? 404 01:00:08,038 --> 01:00:11,530 Yes, of course, I very much wanted to be like her. 405 01:00:11,708 --> 01:00:15,906 That was a different time in my life. 406 01:00:16,079 --> 01:00:18,809 I wanted to be like her, because she was beautiful, 407 01:00:18,982 --> 01:00:21,974 famous, and a genius. 408 01:00:24,154 --> 01:00:27,419 Now, I'd rather be myself. 409 01:00:27,591 --> 01:00:29,684 Does this go with the black socks? 410 01:00:29,860 --> 01:00:34,160 Or is it better without them? I like it with the socks. 411 01:00:34,331 --> 01:00:37,027 Of course, I want to be by her side, 412 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,397 to be inspired by her - 413 01:00:40,570 --> 01:00:44,336 less to be like her, but rather to share moments. 414 01:01:23,346 --> 01:01:25,439 My mother smoked. 415 01:01:25,615 --> 01:01:27,173 Bizarre. 416 01:01:27,350 --> 01:01:29,011 She held it like this, I think. 417 01:01:37,027 --> 01:01:40,519 You know? She held it like this. 418 01:01:46,636 --> 01:01:49,366 My mother started smoking very late, 419 01:01:49,539 --> 01:01:52,007 when she was 29. 28 or 29. 420 01:01:53,944 --> 01:01:55,571 So it was always weird. 421 01:01:57,781 --> 01:02:01,012 She wasn't really used to cigarettes. 422 01:02:01,885 --> 01:02:04,445 She didn't really have the same hands, either. 423 01:02:07,390 --> 01:02:09,017 She had big hands. 424 01:02:14,197 --> 01:02:18,531 Her greatest wish, the thing she most wanted to do - 425 01:02:18,702 --> 01:02:20,602 once I asked her about it - 426 01:02:20,770 --> 01:02:24,672 she wanted to be able to heal with her hands, 427 01:02:26,343 --> 01:02:29,540 to have the power to heal with her hands. 428 01:02:31,081 --> 01:02:33,948 That's what she told me, once. 429 01:03:41,785 --> 01:03:45,744 When I saw you in the icu after the operation... 430 01:03:45,922 --> 01:03:47,219 In Los Angeles. 431 01:03:47,390 --> 01:03:51,588 Your eyes were so full of energy. 432 01:03:53,630 --> 01:03:56,394 There were tubes and things all around you, 433 01:03:57,233 --> 01:03:58,530 but you opened your eyes, 434 01:03:58,702 --> 01:04:01,728 and there was so much strength there 435 01:04:01,905 --> 01:04:03,896 that it made me laugh. 436 01:04:04,941 --> 01:04:06,408 It lit everything up. 437 01:04:06,576 --> 01:04:10,034 You could sense such a strong will to get through it, 438 01:04:10,213 --> 01:04:12,204 and it was really... 439 01:04:15,518 --> 01:04:19,511 Dad was there too, and he laughed, but he doesn't remember that. 440 01:04:19,689 --> 01:04:21,054 But I remember 441 01:04:22,258 --> 01:04:23,885 realizing that, 442 01:04:25,128 --> 01:04:27,722 I don't know, you would be fine. 443 01:04:30,266 --> 01:04:31,893 You know? It was incredible. 444 01:06:07,697 --> 01:06:09,665 Argerich piano clip: 500 yen 445 01:06:09,833 --> 01:06:11,664 argerich chopsticks: 500 yen 446 01:06:11,835 --> 01:06:14,531 argerich cell-phone cleaning kit: 300 yen 447 01:06:21,878 --> 01:06:25,974 Cuvée argerich argerich macarons 448 01:06:26,149 --> 01:06:30,245 official programme on sale here! 449 01:07:24,607 --> 01:07:26,734 You watch everything. 450 01:07:26,910 --> 01:07:28,571 You film everything. Why? 451 01:07:29,946 --> 01:07:31,573 It's embarrassing. 452 01:07:33,983 --> 01:07:35,610 Why do you do that? 453 01:07:37,186 --> 01:07:39,780 I want to know. Why do you do it? 454 01:07:43,693 --> 01:07:46,218 You don't do this with your father, do you? 455 01:07:46,396 --> 01:07:48,023 No, he doesn't let me. 456 01:07:50,767 --> 01:07:52,758 When he's shaving, or whatever. 457 01:07:52,936 --> 01:07:54,130 No. 458 01:07:54,304 --> 01:07:55,931 He didn't let you. 459 01:07:58,841 --> 01:08:00,468 I didn't try. 460 01:08:24,734 --> 01:08:27,396 I don't know what to do. I don't want to sit. 461 01:08:28,571 --> 01:08:31,870 I don't want to mess up my clothes before I play. 462 01:08:35,178 --> 01:08:38,272 Does this look okay? Is this nice? 463 01:08:40,617 --> 01:08:42,778 I'm getting nervous. 464 01:08:51,461 --> 01:08:53,088 How should I know? 465 01:08:58,267 --> 01:08:59,894 And all this is so... 466 01:09:02,972 --> 01:09:06,203 Everything is too solemn. I don't like it! 467 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:45,627 I love schumann. 468 01:11:47,336 --> 01:11:51,568 I adore Beethoven, too, but I love schumann. I can't explain. 469 01:12:03,686 --> 01:12:07,053 There's Mozart and schubert, too, but it's different. 470 01:12:07,957 --> 01:12:10,118 I have a difficult rapport - 471 01:12:10,293 --> 01:12:14,423 not with Mozart but with schubert. But it's not... 472 01:12:15,364 --> 01:12:18,424 With schumann, it's a very direct thing. Beethoven, too. 473 01:12:18,601 --> 01:12:20,535 But schumann - very, very. 474 01:12:21,437 --> 01:12:25,066 - What is that thing? - I can't say, because it's so... 475 01:12:28,811 --> 01:12:32,372 It's so direct it touches me deeply. 476 01:12:34,183 --> 01:12:38,916 Each... movement of the soul, it's... I don't know how to explain! 477 01:12:39,088 --> 01:12:41,488 It's so spontaneous and unexpected. 478 01:12:41,657 --> 01:12:44,751 I mean, it's always... 479 01:12:49,665 --> 01:12:53,795 I don't know. You must listen. There's no use talking about music. 480 01:12:53,970 --> 01:12:55,699 It's pointless. 481 01:12:55,872 --> 01:12:57,931 Words can't express it! 482 01:12:58,107 --> 01:13:01,702 You can't explain music or what you feel. 483 01:13:02,712 --> 01:13:04,339 How could you explain? 484 01:13:05,514 --> 01:13:07,448 It's beyond words. 485 01:13:09,619 --> 01:13:12,884 But when you've played the same concerto so often, 486 01:13:13,055 --> 01:13:16,286 aren't you sometimes afraid of getting bored? 487 01:13:16,459 --> 01:13:18,086 No. 488 01:13:28,304 --> 01:13:30,704 It's the same when I listen to something. 489 01:13:30,873 --> 01:13:35,708 I always discover things, 490 01:13:35,878 --> 01:13:38,540 or new things come to mind. 491 01:13:39,949 --> 01:13:44,079 Also, when I'm working on them, I'm trying not to... 492 01:13:44,854 --> 01:13:47,755 Maybe it's wrong to try not to... 493 01:13:47,924 --> 01:13:49,551 It's complicated. 494 01:13:50,927 --> 01:13:53,327 One mustn't imitate oneself. 495 01:13:54,997 --> 01:13:58,125 But it's best not to get worse, either, 496 01:13:59,135 --> 01:14:01,626 and with age, I think you develop a complex 497 01:14:04,874 --> 01:14:08,275 about being less able to do certain things, maybe, 498 01:14:08,878 --> 01:14:12,541 or being less fresh, less crispy, 499 01:14:12,715 --> 01:14:15,912 or the same thing that's happening physically happen to the playing. 500 01:14:16,085 --> 01:14:18,451 You get scared sometimes. I always ask, 501 01:14:18,621 --> 01:14:22,557 "can anyone tell? Is my playing off?" 502 01:14:22,725 --> 01:14:26,559 But there's the relationship with the music, which is always new, 503 01:14:27,997 --> 01:14:29,624 a bit like love. 504 01:15:16,345 --> 01:15:18,939 So, the penne bolognese is for the gentleman. 505 01:16:31,287 --> 01:16:33,152 Do you think he's changed a lot? 506 01:16:34,623 --> 01:16:36,181 Maybe not. 507 01:16:37,526 --> 01:16:40,256 It's a combination of things, because he's someone with whom 508 01:16:40,429 --> 01:16:42,294 I feel very comfortable, 509 01:16:42,465 --> 01:16:45,491 and he has a lovely, 510 01:16:45,668 --> 01:16:47,966 harmonious voice, 511 01:16:48,137 --> 01:16:50,731 but then he can be a hedgehog, too. 512 01:16:50,906 --> 01:16:55,036 So, he has those two very different sides. 513 01:17:02,184 --> 01:17:04,118 When he plays, what do you feel? 514 01:17:04,286 --> 01:17:06,254 So many things. 515 01:17:09,258 --> 01:17:13,592 It's like embers, it's something that's very contained, 516 01:17:13,762 --> 01:17:15,491 very internal, 517 01:17:16,899 --> 01:17:18,526 but it blazes. 518 01:17:26,242 --> 01:17:28,176 A little bit of wildness, too. 519 01:17:29,478 --> 01:17:31,105 And a lot of tenderness. 520 01:17:33,048 --> 01:17:34,242 A lot of tenderness. 521 01:17:42,758 --> 01:17:44,385 I think I loved your father 522 01:17:45,861 --> 01:17:48,022 in a very internal way, too. 523 01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:27,752 So, I'm Swiss, and my father is American. 524 01:19:27,930 --> 01:19:31,161 He lives here in London. I live in Switzerland. 525 01:19:31,333 --> 01:19:35,963 We would like to complete the acknowledgement process. 526 01:19:36,538 --> 01:19:38,870 His birth certificate dated less than six months ago, 527 01:19:39,041 --> 01:19:42,738 the divorce decree, a piece of ID, "certificate of marital status"... 528 01:23:58,767 --> 01:24:02,863 To me, mom's big toe has always been something very unique. 529 01:24:03,038 --> 01:24:05,370 It's true. I remember going under the piano 530 01:24:05,541 --> 01:24:07,805 and looking at your toes, mom. 531 01:24:07,976 --> 01:24:10,945 It's true. It's: The hair and the toe. 532 01:24:11,113 --> 01:24:14,640 I think to caricature mom, it's the hair - the forelock - 533 01:24:14,816 --> 01:24:16,613 and the big toe. Right? 534 01:24:16,785 --> 01:24:19,447 Yes, the toes are a memory of mine, too. 535 01:24:19,621 --> 01:24:21,748 Even if it's more recent. 536 01:24:21,924 --> 01:24:26,054 Yes, always the feet, pampered in her own way. 537 01:24:27,996 --> 01:24:31,762 I took mom to her first professional pedicure in New York. 538 01:24:32,834 --> 01:24:36,497 It was hilarious, because she was embarrassed, 539 01:24:36,672 --> 01:24:39,266 there were people all around - 540 01:24:39,441 --> 01:24:41,739 and she didn't want her toes all the same color. 541 01:24:41,910 --> 01:24:44,538 The girls there had never seen anything like it. 542 01:24:44,713 --> 01:24:48,149 - Red for the big toe. - No, not red. 543 01:24:48,317 --> 01:24:50,581 Orange for the big toe, blue for the others. 544 01:24:50,752 --> 01:24:52,276 - No. - No? Why not? 545 01:24:52,454 --> 01:24:55,082 - Not all of them. - Okay. One blue one. 546 01:24:55,257 --> 01:24:58,021 I don't know, I'll see. Blue is okay. Green isn't. 547 01:24:58,193 --> 01:25:00,024 No, it's blue. It's here. 548 01:25:00,195 --> 01:25:02,993 I know, but I've done it once or twice. 549 01:25:03,165 --> 01:25:04,996 Yes, we can do that. 550 01:25:05,167 --> 01:25:08,034 The fourth toe, that's good. Very pretty! 551 01:25:11,173 --> 01:25:14,609 - Orange for the big toe, right? - I think so. 552 01:25:16,044 --> 01:25:18,774 - Or we do a blue big toe. - It's better to switch it up. 553 01:25:18,947 --> 01:25:21,973 Too symmetrical is bad. It's a concept, mom. 554 01:25:22,150 --> 01:25:23,742 - Make it green. - Or red. 555 01:25:23,919 --> 01:25:26,581 - Blue. - Or pink. 556 01:25:26,755 --> 01:25:29,918 Is it weird being 70, or don't you think about it? 557 01:25:30,092 --> 01:25:32,219 Yes, it's quite bizarre. 558 01:25:33,996 --> 01:25:36,464 I don't think about the number, 559 01:25:36,632 --> 01:25:38,532 that's not it, but I know... 560 01:25:38,700 --> 01:25:42,192 It feels weird. Yesterday, I thought it seemed unreal. 561 01:25:46,308 --> 01:25:49,072 Maybe I'm going to be a little bit scared. 562 01:25:52,514 --> 01:25:54,846 Don't you find that it gets easier? 563 01:25:56,318 --> 01:25:58,843 At the end of a decade, you feel aged, 564 01:25:59,021 --> 01:26:01,512 and at the start of a new one, you feel better? 565 01:26:01,690 --> 01:26:03,317 No? Oh, well. 566 01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:06,125 Okay. 567 01:26:06,294 --> 01:26:09,593 Of course, when I see pictures and footage, 568 01:26:09,765 --> 01:26:12,233 it seems like a different person. 569 01:26:12,401 --> 01:26:14,892 It's not the image I have of myself. 570 01:26:15,070 --> 01:26:18,198 I think that became fixed, I don't know at what point, 571 01:26:18,373 --> 01:26:20,341 but it's not as I am now. 572 01:26:20,509 --> 01:26:22,568 So, it's weird. 573 01:26:22,744 --> 01:26:26,805 When your physical appearance doesn't match your self-image, 574 01:26:27,916 --> 01:26:30,851 - you know? - So, you see yourself as younger? 575 01:26:31,019 --> 01:26:34,887 Yes, at a different time, I don't quite know which one. 576 01:26:35,057 --> 01:26:37,457 But it's a different time, not now. 577 01:26:40,996 --> 01:26:43,624 When you were little, did you feel your age? 578 01:26:43,799 --> 01:26:45,289 I didn't think about it. 579 01:26:45,467 --> 01:26:47,560 - You didn't? - You don't. 580 01:26:47,736 --> 01:26:49,499 But when you were young, 581 01:26:50,972 --> 01:26:54,135 you didn't think you were a woman, right? 582 01:26:56,778 --> 01:26:59,440 - What? It's true! - Well, I thought I was... 583 01:26:59,614 --> 01:27:02,276 - You thought you were a... - A hermaphrodite? 584 01:27:02,451 --> 01:27:04,316 I thought so, yes. 585 01:27:04,486 --> 01:27:07,819 So when did you feel you were a woman? 586 01:27:08,757 --> 01:27:10,384 I don't know. Never, 587 01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:13,819 actually. 588 01:27:13,995 --> 01:27:17,726 But, on some level, mom doesn't like to be defined. 589 01:27:17,899 --> 01:27:20,732 - No, I don't. - It lacks mystery. 590 01:27:20,902 --> 01:27:23,666 It's better to be both at once, 591 01:27:23,839 --> 01:27:26,364 - or nothing. - We are both things at once. 592 01:27:26,541 --> 01:27:28,805 We're always both things at once, and even... 593 01:27:28,977 --> 01:27:31,036 - More than that. - Maybe more. 594 01:27:31,213 --> 01:27:33,613 That's very pretty. I do like this one. 595 01:27:35,183 --> 01:27:38,152 Where do you like to be? Where's home now? 596 01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:39,753 That worries me. 597 01:27:39,921 --> 01:27:42,151 That question 598 01:27:42,324 --> 01:27:43,951 worries me. 599 01:27:46,394 --> 01:27:50,421 Is it a place or people? Oris it... where is it, for you? 600 01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:55,733 I don't know. That question is really worrying me right now, 601 01:27:55,904 --> 01:27:58,600 perhaps for a different reason. 602 01:28:03,011 --> 01:28:05,707 But do you think about it a lot? 603 01:28:05,881 --> 01:28:08,111 About escaping? Yes. 604 01:28:08,283 --> 01:28:11,582 No, that anxiety, or where you want to be. 605 01:28:17,859 --> 01:28:19,486 I think about it. 606 01:28:22,464 --> 01:28:25,092 The anxiety just comes. 607 01:28:29,838 --> 01:28:31,999 Maybe you're like a migratory bird, mom. 608 01:28:32,174 --> 01:28:34,802 I mean, why should you have to choose one place? 609 01:28:34,976 --> 01:28:38,468 Maybe you could feel good in several places. 610 01:28:39,848 --> 01:28:42,316 - You understand? - Yes. 611 01:30:11,573 --> 01:30:14,201 I'm going to bathe, miss. 612 01:30:14,376 --> 01:30:17,436 I think I'm in an awful state. 613 01:30:17,612 --> 01:30:19,978 I haven't looked in the mirror, 614 01:30:20,148 --> 01:30:23,584 but it's wrong to film me in this state, 615 01:30:24,786 --> 01:30:27,380 in an inferior condition, miss. 616 01:30:28,356 --> 01:30:32,850 A 60-year-old, an old woman, who's just got up. 617 01:30:33,862 --> 01:30:35,227 Why? 618 01:30:36,564 --> 01:30:38,225 What do you want to show? 619 01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:41,460 Nothing. I'm watching, not showing. 620 01:30:41,636 --> 01:30:44,264 Are you saying I'm lovely? 621 01:31:21,276 --> 01:31:23,437 Between you and me, for example, 622 01:31:23,611 --> 01:31:26,102 it was never really verbal. 623 01:31:27,082 --> 01:31:29,016 We didn't talk much. 624 01:31:29,184 --> 01:31:31,414 Even now, we have trouble talking, 625 01:31:31,586 --> 01:31:34,054 because that's not the thing. 626 01:31:34,889 --> 01:31:38,052 The thing is elsewhere, but I don't know where. 627 01:31:38,226 --> 01:31:40,353 I can imagine. 628 01:31:42,931 --> 01:31:45,024 But it's not really verbal. 629 01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:48,499 We may not agree on many things, 630 01:31:50,038 --> 01:31:53,337 and we may not have that many affinities. 631 01:31:53,508 --> 01:31:55,669 Maybe. I don't know. 632 01:32:00,048 --> 01:32:03,643 I'm making you yawn. It's always been like that, ever since... 633 01:32:03,818 --> 01:32:08,414 When you were with me, you were yawning or hungry. 634 01:32:10,291 --> 01:32:11,656 That's what 635 01:32:12,594 --> 01:32:15,222 we should be looking into. 636 01:32:16,965 --> 01:32:18,830 You know what I mean? 637 01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:21,560 I look at you because I love to. 638 01:32:23,505 --> 01:32:25,132 I love being near you. 639 01:32:26,374 --> 01:32:28,001 It's physical, too. 640 01:32:29,611 --> 01:32:31,238 I love looking at you. 641 01:32:32,480 --> 01:32:34,107 Sorry. 642 01:32:38,820 --> 01:32:41,687 My donkey 643 01:32:41,856 --> 01:32:44,188 my donkey 644 01:32:44,359 --> 01:32:47,760 has a painful head 645 01:32:48,763 --> 01:32:53,393 madame has made 646 01:32:53,568 --> 01:32:57,561 a hat for his head... 647 01:32:58,873 --> 01:33:01,273 For his feast 648 01:33:02,610 --> 01:33:04,942 and shoes of lilac 649 01:33:05,113 --> 01:33:08,947 and shoes of lilac 650 01:33:09,117 --> 01:33:14,919 her donkey has a headache, you see. 651 01:33:34,375 --> 01:33:36,206 Because the lady made a hat for his head, 652 01:33:36,377 --> 01:33:38,242 for his feast, 653 01:33:38,413 --> 01:33:40,108 and lilac shoes. 654 01:33:40,281 --> 01:33:42,044 The color of lilacs. 655 01:33:42,217 --> 01:33:44,242 Are these the pirates? 656 01:33:44,419 --> 01:33:46,148 The fish are sitting.