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♪

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            Russell:
      YOU KNOW, IT TAKES ME

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     ABOUT 10 OR 15 MINUTES
         TO GET TO WORK.

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     WAS THERE A LITTLE LESS
          THAN AN HOUR,

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 AND I GOT A CALL FROM MY WIFE.

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     AND SHE SAID, "YOU NEED
         TO COME HOME."

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  AND I SAID, "W-WHAT'S WRONG,
    ANDREA? IS ANYONE HURT?"

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     AND SHE SAID, "YES..."

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        "...THE CHILDREN.

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          ALL OF THEM."

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                     ♪

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  Woodruff: IT SENT SHOCK WAVES
AROUND THE WORLD,

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AND THE REPERCUSSION
ARE CERTAIN TO BE FELT

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FOR YEARS TO COME.

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[ POLICE RADIO CHATTER ]

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Man: WHEN THE CHILDREN STARTED
TALKING ABOUT ROBES AND CANDLES,

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YOU COULD SEE
THAT IT HAD TO BE SATANIC.

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Man
TO EXAMINE EVIDENCE

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FOLLOWING UP ON A SUBSTANTIAL...

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Man

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AS A CRIMINAL
INSTEAD OF A VICTIM.

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Man
A SHOCKER. IT WAS STUNNING.

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Man
I HAVE SEEN AMBULANCES.

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I CANNOT TELL YOU
IF THERE HAVE BEEN ANY INJURIES.

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Man
OF TERROR.

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♪

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Stumpo: WAS EARLY MORNING,
9:00, 10:00.

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I JUST RECEIVED
A REGULAR 911 CALL,

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CHECK AN UNKNOWN-TYPE SITUATION.

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  IT WAS JUST A STANDARD CALL.

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  I NEVER THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A
LIFE-CHANGING EXPERIENCE FOR ME,

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      AND IT HAUNTS ME NOW
          TO THIS DAY.

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         [ SIREN WAILS ]

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          I GOT THERE.

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   ANOTHER UNIT WAS ALREADY ON
  THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET.

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       CLEAR LAKE, TEXAS,
    IT'S A SUBURB OF HOUSTON.

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       IT'S A MIDDLE-CLASS
          NEIGHBORHOOD.

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     A FEW PROPERTY CRIMES,

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       DOMESTIC VIOLENCE,
     THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

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AS I ENTERED THE HOUSE,

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          ANDREA YATES
    WAS SITTING ON THE COUCH,

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   AND I ASKED OFFICER KNAPP,

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      I SAID, "WHAT IS IT?
        WHAT'S GOING ON?"

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     THAT'S WHEN HE TOLD ME
        IT'S A HOMICIDE.

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     Reporter: THE CALL CAME
         FROM THIS HOUSE

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     JUST BEFORE 10:00 A.M.

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   WHEN I CAME IN LAST NIGHT,

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       THE FATHER WAS OUT
      WITH HIS 7-YEAR-OLD,

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 AND THEY WERE SHOOTING BASKETS.

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         IT LOOKED LIKE
   A NORMAL FAMILY SITUATION.

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IT WAS THE SUSPECT HERSELF
          WHO CALLED US

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  AND SAID THAT SHE REQUIRED A
 POLICE UNIT TO GO BY HER HOUSE.

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    Wark: MY SISTER CALLED ME
         AND SAID, "HEY,

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     DON'T YOU HAVE A FRIEND
          NAMED ANDREA?

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       I THINK YOUR FRIEND
        IS ON THE NEWS."

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     I SWITCHED ON THE NEWS,

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         AND I JUST GOT
        THIS SICK FEELING

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    IN THE PIT OF MY STOMACH.

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 Stumpo: SHE SHOWED NO EMOTION,
        NO FEAR, NOTHING.

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      I FIGURED SHE KILLED
HER HUSBAND OR BOYFRIEND,

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        AND I WALKED DOWN
       THIS LONG CORRIDOR.

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   AND I WAS EXPECTING TO SEE
     A BODY -- A MAN'S BODY.

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     Wark: ANDREA AND RUSTY
  WERE JUST A BEAUTIFUL COUPLE.

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     WHEN THEY GOT MARRIED,

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     I REMEMBER BEING REALLY
       DELIGHTED FOR HER.

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     FIRST HE'S AN ENGINEER.

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            HE WORKED
   FOR A CONTRACTOR FOR NASA.

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  HE WAS SUCH A NICE, NICE MAN.

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   I WAS SO HAPPY FOR ANDREA,

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      THAT HE SEEMED TO BE
SO VERY MUCH IN LOVE WITH HER.

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             Stumpo:
   AND I WALKED INTO THE ROOM.

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    THERE WAS NO BODY THERE,
    BUT I SAW A LITTLE HEAD,

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  AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A DOLL.

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          [ LAUGHTER ]

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   Wark: ANDREA TOOK MOTHERING

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          LIKE SHE TOOK
  EVERYTHING ELSE IN HER LIFE.

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    SHE WAS DETERMINED TO BE
  EXCELLENT AT BEING A MOTHER.

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 SHE WAS JUST THE SWEETEST MOM.

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        SHE WAS WONDERFUL
        WITH THOSE KIDS.

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      Stumpo: I WALKED OVER
       TO THE LITTLE HEAD

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AND AS I GOT CLOSE TO IT,

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   YOU KNOW, THE CLOSER I GOT,
      THE MORE I REALIZED,

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         "WHY, YOU KNOW,
        THIS IS A CHILD."

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   AND I TOUCHED HIS FOREHEAD.
        IT WAS ICE COLD.

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   AND I PICKED UP THE BLANKET
      WHERE THE CHILD WAS,

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          MORE CHILDREN
     STARTED TO MATERIALIZE.

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    AND THEY'RE ALL LINED UP
        ALL SIDE BY SIDE.

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     THERE WERE FOUR OF THEM
          IN THAT BED.

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   TO THIS DAY, MY MIND'S EYE
     CAN RE-CREATE THE IMAGE

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THAT I SAW.

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        I PUT THE BLANKET
  BACK ON TOP OF THE CHILDREN.

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   I TURNED INTO THE BATHROOM,

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   AND I FOUND THE OLDEST ONE
      FACEDOWN IN THE TUB.

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      HE WAS JUST FLOATING.

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     WE WERE JUST IN SHOCK.

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   WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

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 Curry: POLICE FOUND FIVE YOUNG
    CHILDREN DEAD IN A HOME,

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     AND THEY SAY THE MOTHER
 HAS CONFESSED TO KILLING THEM,

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    APPARENTLY DROWNING THEM
          IN A BATHTUB.

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             Man
ALL THE CHILDREN WERE WET.

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ONE WAS FOUND IN THE BATHTUB,

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BUT THE MEDICAL
EXAMINER'S OFFICE

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IS GONNA HAVE TO DETERMINE
THE CAUSE OF DEATH

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IT COULD HAVE BEEN
FROM SOME OTHER MEANS.

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Man
SOMETHING LIKE THIS,

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WHERE A PARENT HAS KILLED
MULTIPLE CHILDREN AT ONCE,

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IS ALMOST UNHEARD OF.

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Stump:
DURING ALL THIS TIME,

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YATES WAS SITTING THERE.

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HER CLOTHES WERE TOTALLY SOAKED.

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IT LOOKS LIKE SHE JUST
     CAME OUT OF THE SHOWER.

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    SHE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING.

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 AND THEN HER HUSBAND SHOWED UP.

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       SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER,
   HE BREACHED THE PERIMETER.

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AND SHE JUST LOOKED AT THE DOOR,
       DIDN'T SAY A WORD.

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       SHE JUST SAT THERE

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      WITH THIS GLAZED LOOK
          ON HER FACE.

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     FIVE CHILDREN MURDERED
       IN THEIR OWN HOME,

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      AND THE PRIME SUSPECT
        IS THEIR MOTHER.

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  Wark: THE ANDREA THAT I KNEW

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WOULD NEVER HAVE DONE
ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

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SOMETHING VERY WRONG
WAS GOING ON.

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THE ANDREA THAT I KNEW
WOULD NEVER HURT A FLY.

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SHE DID NOT HAVE
A MEAN BONE IN HER BODY.

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Reporter
WHAT EVERYONE WANTS TO KNOW

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IS WHAT COULD HAVE
PUSHED ANDREA YATES

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SO COMPLETELY OVER THE EDGE

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THAT SHE'S SUSPECTED
OF KILLING HER OWN CHILDREN?

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Wark: I MET ANDREA WHEN
    WE WERE IN EIGHTH GRADE.

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  SHE WAS IN MY ENGLISH CLASS.

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I WAS A MISFIT, AND SHE WAS ALSO
    A LITTLE BIT OF A MISFIT.

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      SHE DIDN'T EVER CARE
       IF SHE WAS POPULAR,

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     AND THAT WAS SOMETHING
   I ALWAYS ADMIRED ABOUT HER.

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   AND SO, WE BECAME FRIENDS.

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        HER PARENTS WERE
       WONDERFUL PARENTS.

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     THEY RAISED FIVE KIDS.
   THEY WERE FUN TO BE AROUND.

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   BUT I DO KNOW THAT ANDREA'S
PARENTS EXPECTED A LOT FROM HER.

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THEY HAD A CULTURE
         OF EXCELLENCE.

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    WE WENT TO NURSING SCHOOL
        AT UT IN HOUSTON.

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  ANDREA WAS THE MOST DILIGENT
  STUDENT YOU COULD EVER MEET.

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      WE DID HAVE ONE YEAR
      THAT WE DIDN'T TALK.

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   SHE WAS HAVING SOME ISSUES
        WITH DEPRESSION.

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     ANDREA COULD BE PRIVATE
       WITH HER EMOTIONS.

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     IF SHE DIDN'T WANT YOU
  TO KNOW, YOU WOULD NOT KNOW.

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      Owmby: I WAS AT HOME.

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  WE GOT A CALL THAT THIS CASE
WOULD LAND IN MY DIVISION.

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ALL WE KNEW WAS THAT A WOMAN
HAD KILLED HER CHILDREN.

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IT WAS SO UNUSUAL --

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FIVE CHILDREN
ALL DROWNED BY THE MOTHER.

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IT'S KIND OF SURREAL.

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Reporter
A COMMUNITY IN CRISIS.

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COULD THEIR NEIGHBOR
ANDREA YATES

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REALLY HAVE DROWNED
HER FIVE CHILDREN?

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Wark: EVERY TIME YOU TURNED
ON THE NEWS,

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THERE WAS AN UPDATE
ABOUT ANDREA.

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Reporter
COME TO TERMS WITH THE TRAGEDY.

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I FEEL SO SORRY FOR THE CHILDREN

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AND THE FATHER THAT'S SUFFERING
RIGHT NOW WITH HIS LOSS.

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Reporter
A HUSBAND AND FATHER

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NOW LEFT TO PICK UP THE PIECES.

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Wark: I FOUND OUT THAT ANDREA
WAS SEEING RUSTY.

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SHE SENT ME
A LITTLE UPDATE OF HER LIFE.

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SHE HAD A GOOD JOB,

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AND SHE WAS
A REALLY WONDERFUL NURSE.

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SHE HAD MET THIS NICE YOUNG MAN

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WHO LIVED
    IN HER APARTMENT COMPLEX

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     AND HIS NAME WAS RUSTY.

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      EARLY THE NEXT YEAR,

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       I GOT AN INVITATION
         TO HER WEDDING.

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   SHE LOOKED JUST BEAUTIFUL,
    THIS LOVELY WHITE DRESS.

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    HER HAIR WAS PULLED BACK.
      SHE WAS SO, SO HAPPY.

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    HOW COULD MY DEAR FRIEND,
   WHOM I LOVED LIKE A SISTER,

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         HOW COULD THIS
     HAVE POSSIBLY HAPPENED?

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         Woman on radio:
     OUR QUESTION FOR TODAY

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     IS SHOULD ANDREA YATES
FACE CAPITAL MURDER CHARGES?

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    JONATHAN IN GEORGIA SAYS
            A MOTHER

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   THAT WOULD KNOWINGLY DROWN
        HER OWN CHILDREN

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  SHOULD BE SENTENCED TO DEATH.

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SO MANY ACTIONS ARE BLAMED ON...

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  Parnham: I RECALL HEARING IT
          ON THE RADIO.

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          THAT EVENING,

189
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      I RECEIVED A MESSAGE
    ON MY ANSWERING SERVICE.

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    I HESITATED TO CALL BACK
    FOR PROBABLY 30 MINUTES.

191
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 I KNEW IN MY GUT THAT THIS CASE
 WOULD HAVE A MARKED IMPRESSION

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ON MY PROFESSIONAL
       AND PERSONAL LIFE.

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                     ♪

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   Wark: I DO REMEMBER ANDREA
  CALLED ME WHEN NOAH WAS BORN.

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       I WENT TO SEE HER.

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       SHE'S SITTING THERE
        IN THE HOSPITAL,

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   LOOKING SO COMPLETELY HAPPY
         AND SATISFIED.

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    I DIDN'T SEE THAT SHE HAD
        ANY MORE ANXIETY

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         THAN ANY OTHER
       FIRST-TIME MOTHER.

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         SHE JUST WAS --
      SHE WAS FULL OF JOY.

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          ANDREA'S IDEA
THAT YOU HAVE TO BE EXCELLENT

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      AT EVERYTHING YOU DO

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      AND SHE PROBABLY PUT
    MORE PRESSURE ON HERSELF

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       THAN SHE NEEDED TO.

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         SHE BREASTFED.
   SHE USED THE CLOTH DIAPERS.

206
00:10:13,213 --> 00:10:15,580
      LATER THE NEXT YEAR,
     SHE SENT ME THE PICTURE

207
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        OF HER AND RUSTY
       AND NOAH AND JOHN,

208
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      SO THAT'S HOW I KNEW
      SHE HAD ANOTHER BABY.

209
00:10:20,387 --> 00:10:21,853
Andrea: WHERE'S NOAH?

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                    LOOK!

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          [ LAUGHTER ]

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    WHERE'S NOAH?

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  WHERE'D NOAH GO?

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BOO!

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                 [ HUMMING ]

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 Wark: I DO REMEMBER HER TELLING
   ME THAT ON HER WEDDING DAY

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       THAT SHE AND RUSTY
         WERE GONNA HAVE

218
00:10:35,469 --> 00:10:37,369
        AS MANY CHILDREN
        AS GOD GAVE THEM.

219
00:10:37,471 --> 00:10:39,971
           [ HUMMING CONTINUES ]

220
00:10:40,073 --> 00:10:42,974
    [ LAUGHING ]

221
00:10:43,076 --> 00:10:48,480
                     ♪

222
00:11:05,098 --> 00:11:07,365
             Owmby:
    WHAT STRIKES YOU THE MOST

223
00:11:07,467 --> 00:11:12,003
          IS HER RECALL
   OF THE SEQUENCE OF EVENTS.

224
00:11:12,105 --> 00:11:15,774
 ANDREA YATES WAITED TILL AFTER
 HER HUSBAND HAD LEFT THE HOUSE.

225
00:11:15,876 --> 00:11:17,509
IT SEEMED TO ME THAT HER ACTIONS

226
00:11:17,611 --> 00:11:20,779
   CARRYING OUT OF THE MURDERS
          WERE PLANNED.

227
00:11:32,993 --> 00:11:35,460
         Curry: NOW MORE
   ON THAT TRAGEDY IN HOUSTON.

228
00:11:35,562 --> 00:11:39,030
POLICE FOUND FIVE YOUNG CHILDREN
         DEAD IN A HOME,

229
00:11:39,132 --> 00:11:41,099
     AND THEY SAY THE MOTHER
 HAS CONFESSED TO KILLING THEM,

230
00:11:41,201 --> 00:11:43,635
           APPARENTLY
   DROWNING THEM IN A BATHTUB.

231
00:11:45,706 --> 00:11:48,139
            Parnham:
   I WENT DOWN TO SEE ANDREA.

232
00:11:50,110 --> 00:11:53,745
 I'LL NEVER FORGET THAT MEETING
       WITH MY NEW CLIENT.

233
00:11:55,515 --> 00:11:59,084
   ANDREA WAS BASICALLY MUTE.

234
00:12:00,387 --> 00:12:05,323
I STOOD TO LEAVE, AND SHE SAID,
 "PLEASE DON'T LEAVE ME ALONE."

235
00:12:05,425 --> 00:12:07,692
        I MADE UP MY MIND
     AT THAT MOMENT OF TIME

236
00:12:07,794 --> 00:12:11,362
  THAT I WOULD NEVER LEAVE HER.

237
00:12:11,465 --> 00:12:12,897
            Russell:
   I GOT A CALL FROM MY WIFE.

238
00:12:12,999 --> 00:12:15,467
     AND SHE SAID, "YOU NEED
         TO COME HOME."

239
00:12:15,569 --> 00:12:17,368
  AND I SAID, "W-WHAT'S WRONG,
    ANDREA? IS ANYONE HURT?"

240
00:12:17,471 --> 00:12:19,771
          AND SHE SAID,
      "YES, THE CHILDREN."

241
00:12:19,873 --> 00:12:21,306
  AND SHE SAID, "ALL OF THEM."

242
00:12:21,408 --> 00:12:24,342
 AND I JUST -- I MEAN, MY HEART
      JUST SUNK, YOU KNOW?

243
00:12:24,444 --> 00:12:26,778
Owmby: WHEN HE LEFT,
 HE THOUGHT THINGS WERE NORMAL.

244
00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,013
      HIS MOTHER WAS COMING
          TO CHECK IN.

245
00:12:29,116 --> 00:12:32,183
 SO ALL OF THIS WAS ACCOMPLISHED
           IN THE HOUR

246
00:12:32,285 --> 00:12:34,886
        BEFORE HIS MOTHER
       WAS SET TO ARRIVE.

247
00:12:36,623 --> 00:12:39,691
  WE WENT THROUGH THE EVIDENCE,

248
00:12:39,793 --> 00:12:41,292
   THE STEPS THAT SHE TOOK --

249
00:12:41,394 --> 00:12:43,361
     RUNNING THE BATHWATER,

250
00:12:43,463 --> 00:12:48,666
    TALKING TO THE CHILDREN,
   TAKING THEM ONE AT A TIME,

251
00:12:48,769 --> 00:12:52,303
 PUTTING THE CHILDREN IN THE BED
     WHEN SHE WAS COMPLETED.

252
00:12:52,405 --> 00:12:55,707
         DROWNING IS NOT
      AN EASY THING TO DO.

253
00:12:55,809 --> 00:12:58,843
IT REQUIRED CONSIDERABLE EFFORT.

254
00:12:58,945 --> 00:13:03,314
    THERE WERE SIGNS OF SOME
STRUGGLE IN THE AUTOPSY REPORTS.

255
00:13:03,416 --> 00:13:05,250
       THERE WERE BRUISES
         AND INDICATIONS

256
00:13:05,352 --> 00:13:08,887
     THAT THERE WAS A FIGHT.

257
00:13:08,989 --> 00:13:11,990
    THERE WERE WET FOOTPRINTS
          TO THE DOOR.

258
00:13:12,092 --> 00:13:15,426
 SO WE KNOW ONE OF THE CHILDREN,
   NOAH, WAS CONSCIOUS ENOUGH

259
00:13:15,529 --> 00:13:18,930
      OF WHAT WAS GOING ON
      TO ATTEMPT TO ESCAPE.

260
00:13:31,211 --> 00:13:32,610
   Stumpo: THE KID WAS TRYING

261
00:13:32,712 --> 00:13:34,813
   TO RUN AWAY FROM HIS MOTHER
            TO LIVE.

262
00:13:34,915 --> 00:13:37,749
  AND SHE EVENTUALLY CAUGHT HIM
AND KILLED HIM.

263
00:13:37,851 --> 00:13:39,117
THAT'S WHY SHE GOT SOAKING WET

264
00:13:39,219 --> 00:13:42,420
BECAUSE HE WAS FIGHTING
IN THE TUB.

265
00:13:42,522 --> 00:13:44,255
Reporter
ANDREA YATES TOLD POLICE

266
00:13:44,357 --> 00:13:47,725
SHE METHODICALLY DROWNED
HER FIVE KIDS IN THE BATHTUB,

267
00:13:47,828 --> 00:13:50,361
BUT THAT HER OLDEST SON,
NOAH, SAW WHAT WAS GOING ON

268
00:13:50,463 --> 00:13:51,896
AND WAS DRAGGED
INTO THE BATHROOM

269
00:13:51,998 --> 00:13:56,301
TO MEET THE SAME FATE
AS HIS BROTHERS AND BABY SISTER.

270
00:13:58,371 --> 00:14:00,471
Owmby: THE TIME THAT THIS
MUST HAVE TAKEN,

271
00:14:00,574 --> 00:14:04,075
IT ALL SEEMED SO METHODICAL.

272
00:14:04,177 --> 00:14:08,012
THIS IS NOT A PERSON
    SOMEHOW BECOMING SO ANGRY

273
00:14:08,114 --> 00:14:10,982
        AT THEIR CHILDREN
       THAT THEY SNAPPED.

274
00:14:13,186 --> 00:14:17,121
 Stumpo: WHEN YOU START DWELLING
   BACK ON THE HUMANITY OF IT

275
00:14:17,224 --> 00:14:19,457
    IS WHEN IT REALLY STARTS
         TO BOTHER YOU.

276
00:14:19,559 --> 00:14:23,661
        YOU REALIZE THAT
   THE PRECIOUSNESS OF LIFE...

277
00:14:23,763 --> 00:14:25,430
    SORRY. I HAD TO CHOKE...

278
00:14:27,167 --> 00:14:30,768
  WHAT SHE DID TO THOSE KIDS...

279
00:14:30,871 --> 00:14:33,671
   THEY TRUSTED THEIR MOTHER.

280
00:14:33,773 --> 00:14:37,008
      THE PERSON THEY TRUST
     THE MOST IN THE WORLD,

281
00:14:37,110 --> 00:14:41,079
 SHE KILLED THEM FOR NO REASON.

282
00:14:41,181 --> 00:14:45,016
All: ♪ HAPPY BIRTHDAY
            TO YOU ♪

283
00:14:45,118 --> 00:14:49,053
    ♪ HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU ♪

284
00:14:49,155 --> 00:14:53,057
  ♪ HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR NOAH ♪

285
00:14:53,159 --> 00:14:57,095
    ♪ HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU ♪

286
00:14:59,766 --> 00:15:01,099
            Russell:
  I COULDN'T SLEEP LAST NIGHT.

287
00:15:01,201 --> 00:15:02,700
      I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW,

288
00:15:02,802 --> 00:15:04,836
   "IS THERE ANYTHING I COULD
      HAVE DONE, YOU KNOW?"

289
00:15:04,938 --> 00:15:06,671
       Wark: I THINK RUSTY
     WAS IN A STATE OF SHOCK

290
00:15:06,773 --> 00:15:08,106
      AFTER THIS HAPPENED.

291
00:15:08,208 --> 00:15:10,408
     I THINK HE WAS UNDER AN
 EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF STRESS.

292
00:15:10,510 --> 00:15:14,212
  I THINK IT TOOK HIM SOME TIME
           TO PROCESS.

293
00:15:14,314 --> 00:15:16,347
MY WIFE, I'M --
I'M SUPPORTIVE OF HER, YOU KNOW,

294
00:15:16,449 --> 00:15:18,316
   IT'S HARD BECAUSE ONE HAND,

295
00:15:18,418 --> 00:15:20,351
  I KNOW SHE -- SHE KILLED OUR
       CHILDREN, YOU KNOW,

296
00:15:20,453 --> 00:15:24,355
        BUT ON THE OTHER,
 I KNOW THAT -- THAT, YOU KNOW,

297
00:15:24,457 --> 00:15:27,292
 THE WOMAN HERE IS NOT THE WOMAN
    THAT KILLED MY CHILDREN.

298
00:15:30,964 --> 00:15:36,434
 Resnick: I SAW MRS. YATES ABOUT
 THREE WEEKS AFTER THE KILLINGS.

299
00:15:36,536 --> 00:15:39,070
       THE PRIMARY PURPOSE
         OF MY INTERVIEW

300
00:15:39,172 --> 00:15:43,274
           WAS WHETHER
     SHE WAS LEGALLY INSANE.

301
00:15:54,054 --> 00:15:56,654
     MRS. YATES HAD A BELIEF

302
00:15:56,756 --> 00:15:59,324
THAT CHILDREN WERE NOT
           ACCOUNTABLE

303
00:15:59,426 --> 00:16:04,128
    FOR THEIR ACTIONS TO GOD
  UNTIL THEY WERE 10 YEARS OLD.

304
00:16:10,403 --> 00:16:13,471
          WHEN SOMEONE
 IS DEEPLY RELIGIOUS LIKE THAT,

305
00:16:13,573 --> 00:16:17,408
       I NEED TO SORT OUT
   TO WHAT EXTENT THESE IDEAS

306
00:16:17,510 --> 00:16:20,311
ARE HELD BY HER CO-RELIGIONISTS.

307
00:16:21,614 --> 00:16:24,415
 GOD IS GONNA DESTROY THIS EARTH
  AND ALL YOU WRETCHED SINNERS!

308
00:16:24,517 --> 00:16:27,251
    Owmby: RUSSELL YATES HAD
  A MENTORSHIP WITH A PREACHER

309
00:16:27,354 --> 00:16:31,389
      WHO HAD RIGID BELIEFS
  AROUND FAMILY AND FATHERHOOD

310
00:16:31,491 --> 00:16:33,424
  AND THE ROLE OF SPIRITUALITY.

311
00:16:33,526 --> 00:16:34,959
[ LAUGHING ]

312
00:16:35,061 --> 00:16:37,161
        OH, CRAZY, CRAZY!

313
00:16:37,263 --> 00:16:40,598
     NO, NO, NO, YOU CRAZY.
           YOU CRAZY.

314
00:16:41,534 --> 00:16:43,501
      Spencer: THE PREACHER
       THAT THEY FOLLOWED

315
00:16:43,603 --> 00:16:45,303
     WAS MICHAEL WORONIECKI,

316
00:16:45,405 --> 00:16:47,939
        AND RUSTY TOLD ME
         THAT WORONIECKI

317
00:16:48,041 --> 00:16:49,841
   WAS A SOFT-SPOKEN PREACHER.

318
00:16:49,943 --> 00:16:54,912
   YOU DON'T NEED TO LISTEN TO
SOMEONE TELL YOU HATEFUL THINGS.

319
00:16:55,015 --> 00:16:56,547
            Spencer:
      I WAS A BIT IN SHOCK

320
00:16:56,649 --> 00:16:58,416
             BECAUSE
   IF YOU WATCH VIDEOS OF HIM,

321
00:16:58,518 --> 00:17:00,818
     HE'S GESTURING WILDLY,

322
00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,820
AND HE'S IN WEIRD COSTUMES,

323
00:17:02,922 --> 00:17:06,090
       BASICALLY SCREAMING
     "YOU'RE GOING TO HELL."

324
00:17:06,192 --> 00:17:08,860
       WE ALL GO TO HELL!

325
00:17:08,962 --> 00:17:10,828
          YES! TO HELL!

326
00:17:16,636 --> 00:17:22,073
 Spencer: ANDREA HAD INNUMERABLE
 TAPES OF WORONIECKI'S PREACHING

327
00:17:22,175 --> 00:17:24,208
AND LISTENED TO IT ALL THE TIME.

328
00:17:24,310 --> 00:17:26,077
  Woroniecki: IT SAYS THAT THE
  WORD OF GOD IS MORE PRECIOUS

329
00:17:26,179 --> 00:17:27,578
      THAN GOLD OR SILVER.

330
00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,881
            HONESTLY,
      DO YOU BELIEVE THAT?

331
00:17:29,983 --> 00:17:32,784
  IT'S NOT UNTIL YOU IMPLEMENT
  THAT INTO LIFE IN REPENTANCE

332
00:17:32,886 --> 00:17:36,054
       THAT YOU WILL FIND
THE FAVOR OF GOD.

333
00:17:36,156 --> 00:17:37,288
             Andrea: WHO'S THAT?

334
00:17:37,390 --> 00:17:38,456
    Spencer: THE YATES FAMILY

335
00:17:38,558 --> 00:17:42,160
        WANTED TO FOLLOW
    WORONIECKI'S TEACHINGS...

336
00:17:42,262 --> 00:17:43,628
            YOU'RE ALMOST THERE.

337
00:17:43,730 --> 00:17:46,264
        SO THEY MOVED OUT
      OF THEIR FIRST HOUSE

338
00:17:46,366 --> 00:17:47,799
    THAT THEY OWNED TOGETHER

339
00:17:47,901 --> 00:17:49,834
            AND MOVED
     INTO THE TRAILER PARK.

340
00:17:49,936 --> 00:17:53,604
   [ INDISTINCT CONVERSATION ]

341
00:17:53,706 --> 00:17:57,341
         AT THAT POINT,
 ANDREA WAS A STAY-AT-HOME MOM.

342
00:17:57,444 --> 00:18:00,611
Andrea: I'LL POINT TO
AN ORANGE AND A PUMPKIN.

343
00:18:00,713 --> 00:18:02,713
    IN 1997, ANDREA FOUND OUT

344
00:18:02,816 --> 00:18:06,851
SHE WAS PREGNANT
 WITH BABY NUMBER THREE -- PAUL.

345
00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,220
       Andrea: WHAT DO YOU THINK
               OF THAT?

346
00:18:09,322 --> 00:18:11,556
                  YOU SURE?
                  COME ON.

347
00:18:11,658 --> 00:18:13,558
                    YEAH.

348
00:18:13,660 --> 00:18:18,196
    ANDREA STARTED EXCHANGING
 LETTERS WITH WORONIECKI'S WIFE,

349
00:18:18,298 --> 00:18:19,530
     AND THEY'RE BASICALLY,

350
00:18:19,632 --> 00:18:22,066
    "ANDREA, YOU'VE GOT TO BE
        A BETTER MOTHER.

351
00:18:22,168 --> 00:18:23,768
 YOU'VE GOT TO BE A BETTER WIFE.

352
00:18:23,870 --> 00:18:26,237
        YOU'RE A SINNER.
        YOU'RE A JEZEBEL.

353
00:18:26,339 --> 00:18:28,005
     YOU'RE GOING TO HELL."

354
00:18:28,108 --> 00:18:33,077
           ♪ A B C D ♪

355
00:18:33,179 --> 00:18:35,847
♪ H I J K L M ♪

356
00:18:35,949 --> 00:18:38,816
    [ SINGING INDISTINCTLY ]

357
00:18:38,918 --> 00:18:42,153
      JESUS DOES SINGLE OUT
          ONE GROUP...

358
00:18:42,255 --> 00:18:43,387
            CHILDREN.

359
00:18:43,490 --> 00:18:44,822
                 THEN WHAT?

360
00:18:44,924 --> 00:18:46,023
           [ BABBLES ]

361
00:18:46,126 --> 00:18:47,458
              -NO.
           -[ LAUGHS ]

362
00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,061
   Woroniecki: "WHOEVER CAUSES
    ONE OF THESE LITTLE ONES

363
00:18:50,163 --> 00:18:52,230
  WHO BELIEVE IN ME TO STUMBLE,

364
00:18:52,332 --> 00:18:55,766
      IT IS BETTER FOR HIM
     THAT A HEAVY MILLSTONE

365
00:18:55,869 --> 00:18:57,635
   TO BE HUNG AROUND HIS NECK

366
00:18:57,737 --> 00:18:59,504
        AND HE BE DROWNED
    IN THE DEPTH OF THE SEA."

367
00:18:59,606 --> 00:19:02,673
"I MEAN, JESUS, YOU'RE SAYING
   TO KILL YOURSELF?" "YEAH."

368
00:19:02,775 --> 00:19:07,111
     Resnick: MRS. YATES WAS
         VERY CONCERNED

369
00:19:07,213 --> 00:19:11,449
 THAT SHE HAD BEEN A BAD MOTHER.

370
00:19:16,456 --> 00:19:18,489
        WHAT THE CHILDREN
        WERE DOING WRONG

371
00:19:18,591 --> 00:19:22,527
        TURNED OUT TO BE
     ONLY VERY MINOR THINGS.

372
00:19:35,608 --> 00:19:38,442
   NOTHING THAT WOULD DESERVE

373
00:19:38,545 --> 00:19:41,779
         BEING PUNISHED
        BY KILLING THEM.

374
00:19:52,825 --> 00:19:56,627
  Spencer: AND THE WORONIECKIS
 TRAVELED ALL OVER THE COUNTRY,

375
00:19:56,729 --> 00:19:57,895
        LIVING IN A BUS.

376
00:19:57,997 --> 00:20:01,866
      RUSTY WANTED TO LIVE
  THE LIFESTYLE THAT THEY DID.

377
00:20:02,902 --> 00:20:06,671
SO HE BOUGHT THE BUS FROM THEM
     AND MOVED INTO THE BUS.

378
00:20:06,773 --> 00:20:09,907
      Andrea: THERE YOU GO.
           THANK YOU.

379
00:20:10,009 --> 00:20:11,776
       I'M GONNA GET YOU.

380
00:20:11,878 --> 00:20:15,213
          [ LAUGHING ]

381
00:20:15,315 --> 00:20:19,083
     Parnham: THE KIDS SLEPT
   IN THE LUGGAGE COMPARTMENT.

382
00:20:20,220 --> 00:20:23,521
  Spencer: IN FEBRUARY OF 1999,
         LUKE WAS BORN.

383
00:20:23,623 --> 00:20:26,757
   Andrea: GOING HOME
WITH OUR LATEST ADDITION.

384
00:20:26,859 --> 00:20:29,260
  LUKE, LUKE DAVID.

385
00:20:29,362 --> 00:20:31,696
    AND THEY'RE DRIVING BACK
      TO THE TRAILER PARK.

386
00:20:31,798 --> 00:20:35,600
   THE PARK HAD PUT UP A SIGN
     WELCOMING THE NEW BABY.

387
00:20:35,702 --> 00:20:36,734
WHAT'S THAT SAY, BOYS?

388
00:20:36,836 --> 00:20:38,736
IT SAYS, "CONGRATULATIONS,
RUSTY AND ANDREA.

389
00:20:38,838 --> 00:20:40,905
IT'S A BOY."
HA HA. SO CUTE.

390
00:20:41,007 --> 00:20:44,675
IT'S JUST AFTER THIS DAY,
EVERYTHING CHANGED.

391
00:20:44,777 --> 00:20:46,377
THAT'S SO CUTE.

392
00:20:46,479 --> 00:20:48,980
♪ Q R S T U V ♪

393
00:20:49,082 --> 00:20:52,717
♪ W X Y AND Z ♪

394
00:20:52,819 --> 00:20:56,420
♪ NOW I KNOW MY ABC's ♪

395
00:20:56,522 --> 00:20:59,724
♪ WON'T YOU COME
AND PLAY WITH ME? ♪

396
00:21:17,910 --> 00:21:22,713
♪

397
00:21:22,815 --> 00:21:24,181
Reporter
RUSSELL YATES ARRIVED

398
00:21:24,284 --> 00:21:25,650
AT HIS CHILDREN'S
MEMORIAL SERVICE

399
00:21:25,752 --> 00:21:28,552
BEARING AN INCOMPREHENSIBLE
BURDEN --

400
00:21:28,655 --> 00:21:31,322
A FATHER FORCED
TO SAY GOODBYE TO FIVE CHILDREN

401
00:21:31,424 --> 00:21:33,057
WITH THE WORLD WATCHING.

402
00:21:33,159 --> 00:21:34,859
Wark:
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL SERVICE

403
00:21:34,961 --> 00:21:37,395
AND VERY, VERY SAD.

404
00:21:37,497 --> 00:21:39,764
RUSTY GIVE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL
EULOGY FOR HIS CHILDREN.

405
00:21:39,866 --> 00:21:42,366
IT WAS JUST -- IT WAS
JUST HEART-WRENCHING.

406
00:21:42,468 --> 00:21:44,302
Reporter
NOAH WAS DESCRIBED

407
00:21:44,404 --> 00:21:46,103
AS THE INDEPENDENT FIRSTBORN.

408
00:21:46,205 --> 00:21:49,774
5-YEAR-OLD JOHN HAD
THE CONTAGIOUS FAMILY SMILE.

409
00:21:49,876 --> 00:21:52,476
3-YEAR-OLD PAUL
WAS THE PERFECT CHILD.

410
00:21:52,578 --> 00:21:55,112
  2-YEAR-OLD LUKE WAS FEARLESS,

411
00:21:55,214 --> 00:21:57,515
           EARNING HIM
    THE NICKNAME "BULLDOZER."

412
00:21:57,617 --> 00:22:01,085
   AND ABOUT 6-MONTH-OLD MARY,
    YATES SAID HE WAS STUNNED

413
00:22:01,187 --> 00:22:03,954
 THAT HE'D FINALLY BEEN BLESSED
          WITH A GIRL.

414
00:22:04,057 --> 00:22:08,759
       Wark: RUSTY HELD UP
    A CROCHETED BABY BLANKET,

415
00:22:08,861 --> 00:22:11,662
       AND HE TALKED ABOUT
         HOW MARY WOULD

416
00:22:11,764 --> 00:22:14,965
     GET HER FEET TANGLED UP
  AND POKED THROUGH THE HOLES.

417
00:22:15,068 --> 00:22:21,038
    AND THAT HAD THE FUNERAL
     GOERS ABOUT TO LOSE IT

418
00:22:21,140 --> 00:22:24,342
BECAUSE IT MADE IT REAL.

419
00:22:31,150 --> 00:22:34,251
Resnick: RELIGIOUS PEOPLE
ARE MORE LIKELY

420
00:22:34,354 --> 00:22:38,289
TO HAVE RELIGIOUS DELUSIONS
THAN NON-RELIGIOUS PEOPLE.

421
00:22:38,391 --> 00:22:42,326
AND SOME RELIGIOUS DELUSIONS
MAY LEAD TO A HOMICIDE.

422
00:22:50,069 --> 00:22:51,135
IN TEXAS, ANDREA YATES
FACES ARRAIGNMENT TODAY

423
00:22:51,237 --> 00:22:52,503
ON CAPITAL MURDER CHARGES.

424
00:22:52,605 --> 00:22:54,338
SHE IS ACCUSED OF DROWNING
HER FIVE CHILDREN

425
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:55,773
BACK IN JUNE.

426
00:22:55,875 --> 00:22:57,508
Reporter
ATTORNEY, GEORGE PARNHAM, SAYS

427
00:22:57,610 --> 00:22:59,276
HIS CLIENT WILL ENTER A PLEA
OF NOT GUILTY

428
00:22:59,379 --> 00:23:01,912
BY REASON OF INSANITY.

429
00:23:02,014 --> 00:23:04,682
Parnham: IN ORDER FOR THE
INSANITY DEFENSE TO BE CREDIBLE,

430
00:23:04,784 --> 00:23:08,285
ONE MUST BE SUFFERING
FROM A SEVERE MENTAL DISEASE.

431
00:23:08,388 --> 00:23:11,722
AND AS A RESULT THEREOF,
DOES NOT KNOW

432
00:23:11,824 --> 00:23:14,692
WHAT HE OR SHE'S DOING IS WRONG.

433
00:23:14,794 --> 00:23:17,495
IT WAS IMPORTANT TO EMPHASIZE
HER MENTAL STATE

434
00:23:17,597 --> 00:23:20,598
AT THE TIME
THAT SHE DROWNED THE KIDS.

435
00:23:20,700 --> 00:23:22,833
Reporter
IS NOTORIOUSLY STRICT

436
00:23:22,935 --> 00:23:24,935
ON ACCEPTING
THE INSANITY DEFENSE

437
00:23:25,037 --> 00:23:29,173
WITH 75% OF PLEAS
       ENDING IN FAILURE.

438
00:23:29,275 --> 00:23:32,877
 Resnick: NOT ONE OF THE EXPERTS
    WHO EVALUATED MRS. YATES

439
00:23:32,979 --> 00:23:37,415
       EVER SUGGESTED THAT
  HER ILLNESS WAS NOT GENUINE.

440
00:23:37,517 --> 00:23:41,018
  SHE HAD HAD FOUR PSYCHIATRIC
        HOSPITALIZATIONS

441
00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:44,755
 BEFORE SHE KILLED HER CHILDREN.

442
00:23:44,857 --> 00:23:47,124
        -BE JACK RABBIT.
 -YOU'RE GONNA BE A JACK RABBIT?

443
00:23:47,226 --> 00:23:50,227
    Spencer: APRIL 29, 1999,

444
00:23:50,329 --> 00:23:53,030
   THEY'RE STILL LOOKING LIKE
     A PRETTY HAPPY FAMILY.

445
00:23:53,132 --> 00:23:54,331
           Andrea: WATCH NOAH BE
              A JACK RABBIT.

446
00:23:54,434 --> 00:23:55,733
YOU CAN IMAGINE --

447
00:23:55,835 --> 00:23:59,270
          A SCHOOL BUS,
  TWO ADULTS AND FOUR CHILDREN.

448
00:23:59,372 --> 00:24:01,739
         IT'S A DISASTER
       WAITING TO HAPPEN.

449
00:24:01,841 --> 00:24:04,542
          [ LAUGHTER ]

450
00:24:04,644 --> 00:24:06,277
 Russell: THAT'S HOW
     YOU DO IT.

451
00:24:06,379 --> 00:24:11,015
                     ♪

452
00:24:24,163 --> 00:24:27,765
       ANDREA WAS ADMITTED
   TO A PSYCHIATRIC FACILITY.

453
00:24:27,867 --> 00:24:29,233
                  SO CUTE!

454
00:24:29,335 --> 00:24:32,470
        SHE WAS DIAGNOSED
   WITH POSTPARTUM DEPRESSION.

455
00:24:32,572 --> 00:24:37,074
 Resnick: POSTPARTUM DEPRESSION
    OCCURS IN 1 IN 10 WOMEN.

456
00:24:37,176 --> 00:24:39,109
  SOMETIMES WOMEN ARE RELUCTANT

457
00:24:39,212 --> 00:24:44,081
     TO SHARE THAT THEY ARE
HARDLY ABLE TO FUNCTION.

458
00:24:46,152 --> 00:24:47,985
  Spencer: ANDREA WAS RELEASED
        FROM THE HOSPITAL

459
00:24:48,087 --> 00:24:51,522
      AND WENT BACK TO HER
         PARENTS' HOUSE.

460
00:24:51,624 --> 00:24:52,690
        TWO WEEKS LATER,

461
00:24:52,792 --> 00:24:55,693
          RUSTY NOTICED
    THAT ANDREA WAS MISSING.

462
00:25:07,540 --> 00:25:11,375
   RUSTY CAME IN AND WRESTLED
    THE KNIFE AWAY FROM HER.

463
00:25:11,477 --> 00:25:13,777
    SHE WAS SAYING, "NO, NO,
          LET ME DO IT.

464
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,046
         LET ME DO IT."

465
00:25:16,148 --> 00:25:19,016
 AND SHE WAS HOSPITALIZED AGAIN.

466
00:25:32,431 --> 00:25:36,300
         ANDREA MET WITH
     DR. EILEEN STARBRANCH,

467
00:25:36,402 --> 00:25:38,736
 AND STARBRANCH SAID THAT ANDREA

468
00:25:38,838 --> 00:25:43,073
WAS ONE OF THE SICKEST PATIENTS
        SHE'D EVER SEEN.

469
00:25:43,175 --> 00:25:45,442
            Resnick:
    MRS. YATES WAS DIAGNOSED

470
00:25:45,545 --> 00:25:47,144
    WITH POSTPARTUM PSYCHOSIS

471
00:25:47,246 --> 00:25:49,980
  RATHER THAN DEPRESSION ALONE.

472
00:25:50,082 --> 00:25:53,651
      POSTPARTUM PSYCHOSIS
    IS MUCH, MUCH MORE RARE,

473
00:25:53,753 --> 00:25:57,688
     WHERE SOMEONE ACTUALLY
HAS DELUSIONS OR HALLUCINATIONS.

474
00:25:57,790 --> 00:26:04,428
  AND IN POSTPARTUM PSYCHOSIS,
       THERE IS A 4% RISK

475
00:26:04,530 --> 00:26:07,331
     THAT THE NEWBORN INFANT
         WILL BE KILLED.

476
00:26:07,433 --> 00:26:11,302
 Spencer: DR. STARBRANCH PUT HER
  ON HALDOL, AN ANTIPSYCHOTIC.

477
00:26:11,404 --> 00:26:14,204
IT WAS THE ONE DRUG
     THAT WORKED ON ANDREA.

478
00:26:14,307 --> 00:26:19,009
 SHE BEGAN IMPROVING AND BECAME
   MORE IN TOUCH WITH REALITY.

479
00:26:19,111 --> 00:26:22,713
              All:
    ♪ HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU ♪

480
00:26:22,815 --> 00:26:25,683
    ♪ HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU ♪

481
00:26:25,785 --> 00:26:27,418
            Spencer:
    RUSTY BOUGHT A NEW HOUSE

482
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:28,552
     IN THE CLEAR LAKE AREA.

483
00:26:28,654 --> 00:26:32,056
     IT HAD THREE BEDROOMS,
         TWO BATHROOMS.

484
00:26:32,158 --> 00:26:34,425
         IT WAS A HOME.

485
00:26:34,527 --> 00:26:36,393
ONCE SHE GOT OVER THE PSYCHOSIS,

486
00:26:36,495 --> 00:26:38,629
  ANDREA QUIT TAKING HER MEDS.

487
00:26:38,731 --> 00:26:39,797
          LIFE WENT ON.

488
00:26:39,899 --> 00:26:42,066
   Andrea: ...AROUND
THE HOUSE NOW. COME ON.

489
00:26:42,168 --> 00:26:43,968
        IT TOOK A WHILE,
 BUT SHE JUST SNAPPED OUT OF IT.

490
00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:45,803
   SHE WAS LIKE HERSELF AGAIN
        ALL OF A SUDDEN.

491
00:26:45,905 --> 00:26:47,371
       HELLO.
CAN YOU SAY "BANANA"?

492
00:26:47,473 --> 00:26:48,706
              NANA.

493
00:26:48,808 --> 00:26:52,676
   TO ME, SHE FULLY RECOVERED
   FROM THE FIRST DEPRESSION.

494
00:26:52,778 --> 00:26:58,849
                     ♪

495
00:26:58,951 --> 00:27:02,353
     Parnham: DR. STARBRANCH
          ADVISED THEM,

496
00:27:02,455 --> 00:27:06,624
     AND SPECIFICALLY RUSTY,
 NOT TO HAVE ANY MORE CHILDREN.

497
00:27:06,726 --> 00:27:10,427
        MRS. YATES WOULD
        VERY LIKELY AGAIN

498
00:27:10,529 --> 00:27:14,164
          HAVE A SEVERE
PSYCHIATRIC REACTION

499
00:27:14,266 --> 00:27:16,367
    TO HAVING ANOTHER CHILD.

500
00:27:16,469 --> 00:27:18,569
 WE HAD TALKED ABOUT NOT HAVING
  ANY MORE CHILDREN, YOU KNOW.

501
00:27:18,671 --> 00:27:22,473
 I TALKED TO ANDREA WHEN SHE WAS
  FEELING A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

502
00:27:22,575 --> 00:27:24,408
  WE HAD A GOOD TALK ABOUT THAT
         AND, YOU KNOW,

503
00:27:24,510 --> 00:27:26,910
        BOTH OF US REALLY
     WENT INTO OUR MARRIAGE,

504
00:27:27,013 --> 00:27:29,113
YOU KNOW, SAYING WE'LL JUST HAVE
   AS MANY KIDS AS CAME ALONG,

505
00:27:29,215 --> 00:27:30,714
   AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED.

506
00:27:30,816 --> 00:27:36,587
                     ♪

507
00:27:36,689 --> 00:27:38,922
      THERE'S THE PRECIOUS
          LITTLE GIRL.

508
00:27:39,025 --> 00:27:40,691
SHE LOOKS ASLEEP.

509
00:27:40,793 --> 00:27:43,260
   [ INDISTINCT CONVERSATION ]

510
00:27:43,362 --> 00:27:47,264
 Spencer: ON NOVEMBER 30, 2000,
         MARY WAS BORN,

511
00:27:47,366 --> 00:27:49,500
  THE FIRST GIRL IN THE FAMILY

512
00:27:49,602 --> 00:27:52,336
      WHEN RUSTY WAS ALWAYS
         EXPECTING BOYS,

513
00:27:52,438 --> 00:27:55,239
        SO THEY WERE ALL
     LITTLE BIT OF SHOCKED.

514
00:27:55,341 --> 00:27:58,308
    SHE'S A CUTE LITTLE BABY.

515
00:27:58,411 --> 00:28:00,244
            LOVE YOU.

516
00:28:00,346 --> 00:28:02,046
  Spencer: AFTER MARY WAS BORN,

517
00:28:02,148 --> 00:28:04,682
         ANDREA'S FATHER
    HAD BEEN IN POOR HEALTH,

518
00:28:04,784 --> 00:28:07,685
       AND HE WAS ADMITTED
        TO THE HOSPITAL.

519
00:28:11,090 --> 00:28:12,656
   ABOUT 12:30 IN THE MORNING,

520
00:28:12,758 --> 00:28:15,926
ANDREA'S FATHER DIED.

521
00:28:16,028 --> 00:28:19,863
 Ward: I KNOW THAT SHE HAD LOVED
      HER DAD SO VERY MUCH.

522
00:28:19,965 --> 00:28:22,866
       IF YOU'RE A PERSON
    WITH A FRAGILE MENTALITY

523
00:28:22,968 --> 00:28:26,036
          AND A HISTORY
    OF POSTPARTUM DEPRESSION,

524
00:28:26,138 --> 00:28:30,040
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN EXCEEDINGLY
   DIFFICULT FOR HER TO COPE.

525
00:28:31,444 --> 00:28:33,477
            Spencer:
    AFTER HER FATHER'S DEATH,

526
00:28:33,579 --> 00:28:36,180
      THE CHANGE IN ANDREA
         WAS IMMEDIATE.

527
00:28:36,282 --> 00:28:38,916
   Resnick: SHE GOT SERIOUSLY
         DEPRESSED AGAIN

528
00:28:39,018 --> 00:28:41,151
    AND WAS RE-HOSPITALIZED.

529
00:28:45,725 --> 00:28:48,959
 Spencer: RUSTY FOUND DEVEREAUX
TREATMENT NETWORK

530
00:28:49,061 --> 00:28:50,661
    THAT WAS CLOSER TO HOME.

531
00:28:50,763 --> 00:28:55,299
     DR. SAEED WAS ON STAFF
          AT DEVEREAUX.

532
00:28:55,401 --> 00:28:59,737
  Resnick: DR. SAEED WAS AWARE
   OF SOME PSYCHOTIC SYMPTOMS

533
00:28:59,839 --> 00:29:03,507
         IN MRS. YATES,
  AND THAT'S WHY HE TREATED HER

534
00:29:03,609 --> 00:29:07,344
   WITH BOTH AN ANTIPSYCHOTIC
       AND ANTIDEPRESSANT.

535
00:29:09,615 --> 00:29:12,649
     EVEN THOUGH MRS. YATES
   STILL HAD DELUSIONAL IDEAS,

536
00:29:12,752 --> 00:29:16,820
 SHE DELIBERATELY DID NOT SHARE
     HER PSYCHOTIC THINKING

537
00:29:16,922 --> 00:29:18,555
 WITH HER TREATING PSYCHIATRIST.

538
00:29:18,657 --> 00:29:19,990
     SO WHEN SHE COMPLAINED

539
00:29:20,092 --> 00:29:23,660
OF THE SIDE EFFECTS
      OF THE ANTIPSYCHOTIC,

540
00:29:23,763 --> 00:29:27,431
     DR. SAEED DISCONTINUED
           HER HALDOL.

541
00:29:30,302 --> 00:29:33,337
     Spencer: HERE YOU HAVE
         A MENTALLY ILL,

542
00:29:33,439 --> 00:29:35,038
      PSYCHOTIC HUMAN BEING

543
00:29:35,141 --> 00:29:38,108
         BEING TAKEN OFF
      OF HER ANTIPSYCHOTIC?

544
00:29:38,210 --> 00:29:42,913
                     ♪

545
00:29:43,015 --> 00:29:46,416
    ANDREA'S LAST APPOINTMENT
         WITH DR. SAEED,

546
00:29:46,519 --> 00:29:50,454
     RUSTY ASKED THE DOCTOR
   TO PUT HER BACK ON HALDOL.

547
00:29:50,556 --> 00:29:53,190
      THIS DID NOT HAPPEN.

548
00:29:53,292 --> 00:29:59,463
    AND TWO DAYS LATER, THEIR
  FIVE CHILDREN WERE ALL DEAD.

549
00:30:02,568 --> 00:30:03,801
Curry: TODAY OPENING STATEMENTS
ARE BEING GIVEN

550
00:30:03,903 --> 00:30:05,435
IN THE MURDER TRIAL
OF ANDREA YATES.

551
00:30:05,538 --> 00:30:06,837
SHE IS THE HOUSTON MOTHER

552
00:30:06,939 --> 00:30:08,772
WHO ADMITS DROWNING HER
FIVE CHILDREN IN THE BATHTUB.

553
00:30:08,874 --> 00:30:11,742
Reporter
CRIME IS BEYOND COMPREHENSION.

554
00:30:11,844 --> 00:30:12,910
HELD UNDER THE WATER...

555
00:30:13,012 --> 00:30:14,945
Stumpo: IT WAS SENSATIONAL.

556
00:30:15,047 --> 00:30:17,681
Woman: PEOPLE KEEP LOOKING
AT THE HORROR OF WHAT HAPPENED

557
00:30:17,783 --> 00:30:21,318
Stumpo: IT WAS A MIDDLE-CLASS
WOMAN, PROFESSIONAL HUSBAND,

558
00:30:21,420 --> 00:30:24,087
WORKED FOR NASA,
VERY RELIGIOUS PEOPLE.

559
00:30:24,190 --> 00:30:26,890
YATES' RELIGIOUS BELIEFS HAVE
BECOME A FOCUS OF TESTIMONY

560
00:30:26,992 --> 00:30:28,091
JUST THIS WEEK.

561
00:30:28,194 --> 00:30:30,627
Stumpo: THE MEDIA JUST LATCHED
ON TO THIS THING

562
00:30:30,729 --> 00:30:32,830
AND TOOK OFF WITH IT
LIKE A RACEHORSE.

563
00:30:32,932 --> 00:30:35,032
Spencer: BECAUSE
OF THE ANDREA YATES TRIAL,

564
00:30:35,134 --> 00:30:36,867
PEOPLE LEARNED
ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH.

565
00:30:36,969 --> 00:30:39,803
IT BECAME, YOU KNOW,
A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION.

566
00:30:39,905 --> 00:30:41,071
IT WAS EVERYWHERE.

567
00:30:41,173 --> 00:30:42,940
Reporter
FOR HER LIFE.

568
00:30:43,042 --> 00:30:44,474
SHE FACES THE DEATH PENALTY.

569
00:30:44,577 --> 00:30:46,743
Owmby: WE DECIDED TO SEEK
THE DEATH PENALTY

570
00:30:46,846 --> 00:30:51,915
BASED ON THE MAGNITUDE
OF THIS OFFENSE.

571
00:30:52,017 --> 00:30:55,619
SHE IS PRESUMED TO BE SANE,
TO KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG.

572
00:30:55,721 --> 00:30:58,789
IN JOHN'S LITTLE FIST
IS HER HAIR.

573
00:30:59,892 --> 00:31:02,459
HE FOUGHT.
HE DIDN'T WANT TO DIE.

574
00:31:02,561 --> 00:31:04,494
Reporter
SHOWING UP AT THE COURTHOUSE.

575
00:31:04,597 --> 00:31:06,463
THIS POSITION OF GOING
FOR THE DEATH PENALTY,

576
00:31:06,565 --> 00:31:08,599
JUST BLOODTHIRSTY
IN MY OPINION.

577
00:31:08,701 --> 00:31:11,568
Man
GUILTY BY A JURY OF HER PEERS

578
00:31:11,670 --> 00:31:13,470
FOR THE CAPITAL MURDER
OF HER CHILDREN,

579
00:31:13,572 --> 00:31:15,205
THEN SHE SHOULD RECEIVE
THE DEATH PENALTY.

580
00:31:15,307 --> 00:31:17,908
Owmby: OUR STRATEGY
DURING THE TRIAL

581
00:31:18,010 --> 00:31:20,177
WAS TO RELY ON THE EVIDENCE

582
00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:22,646
TO FOCUS THE JURY
ON THE DECISIONS

583
00:31:22,748 --> 00:31:24,848
THAT ANDREA YATES MADE.

584
00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:27,651
SHE KILLED THE CHILDREN
IN THE HOUR

585
00:31:27,753 --> 00:31:31,021
FROM THE TIME DORA YATES,
HER MOTHER-IN-LAW,

586
00:31:31,123 --> 00:31:32,322
WAS EXPECTED TO ARRIVE

587
00:31:32,424 --> 00:31:34,625
AND THE TIME THAT RUSTY YATES,
          HER HUSBAND,

588
00:31:34,727 --> 00:31:38,762
        LEFT FOR WORK --
     BETWEEN 9:00 AND 10:00.

589
00:31:38,864 --> 00:31:40,964
 IT'S ABSOLUTELY NO COINCIDENCE

590
00:31:41,066 --> 00:31:42,966
        THAT ANDREA YATES
         CHOSE THE HOUR

591
00:31:43,068 --> 00:31:47,170
 WHEN HER HUSBAND WOULD BE AWAY
     TO CARRY OUT THIS ACT.

592
00:31:47,273 --> 00:31:49,306
         SHE CALLED 911.

593
00:31:49,408 --> 00:31:51,141
      THAT IS AN INDICATION
        THAT YOU BELIEVE

594
00:31:51,243 --> 00:31:52,843
   A CRIME HAS BEEN COMMITTED.

595
00:31:52,945 --> 00:31:55,646
     AND THEREFORE, SHE KNEW
  WHAT SHE WAS DOING WAS WRONG.

596
00:31:55,748 --> 00:31:57,648
      LET ME TELL YOU WHAT
       THIS CASE IS ABOUT.

597
00:31:57,750 --> 00:32:00,183
THIS CASE IS ABOUT
      THE LAW ON INSANITY.

598
00:32:00,286 --> 00:32:03,120
IT'S ABOUT WHY WE SAY THE LAW IS

599
00:32:03,222 --> 00:32:04,655
          THAT YOU HAVE
    TO KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG

600
00:32:04,757 --> 00:32:05,956
      AND WHY WE DON'T SAY

601
00:32:06,058 --> 00:32:07,958
        THAT THE PRODUCT
     OF YOUR MENTAL ILLNESS

602
00:32:08,060 --> 00:32:10,661
        IS ENOUGH FOR YOU
       TO BE FOUND INSANE.

603
00:32:10,763 --> 00:32:16,099
  Resnick: MRS. YATES KNEW THAT
IT WAS A SIN AND AGAINST THE LAW

604
00:32:16,201 --> 00:32:18,101
      TO KILL THE CHILDREN.

605
00:32:18,203 --> 00:32:19,503
      THAT WAS UNDISPUTED.

606
00:32:19,605 --> 00:32:23,173
          BUT SHE FELT
       IT WAS A LESSER SIN

607
00:32:23,275 --> 00:32:26,310
  THAN THAT THE CHILDREN WOULD
LOSE THEIR SOULS

608
00:32:26,412 --> 00:32:29,913
   AND NEVER GET INTO HEAVEN.

609
00:32:30,015 --> 00:32:32,382
            Parnham:
 TO EMPLOY THE INSANITY DEFENSE,

610
00:32:32,484 --> 00:32:34,184
 YOU HAVE TO ADMIT WHAT YOU DID,

611
00:32:34,286 --> 00:32:37,454
    BUT THEN PLAY THE DEFENSE
         OF NOT KNOWING

612
00:32:37,556 --> 00:32:41,091
   WHAT SHE'S DOING IS WRONG.

613
00:32:41,193 --> 00:32:43,627
    IT'S EXTREMELY DIFFICULT.

614
00:32:43,729 --> 00:32:46,697
   IF THIS WOMAN DOESN'T MEET
      THE TEST OF INSANITY

615
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:50,500
IN THIS STATE, THEN NOBODY DOES.

616
00:32:50,602 --> 00:32:52,135
              ZERO.

617
00:32:52,237 --> 00:32:54,071
        WE MIGHT AS WELL
     WIPE IT FROM THE BOOKS.

618
00:32:54,173 --> 00:32:58,442
      SHE WAS SO PSYCHOTIC
        ON JUNE THE 20th

619
00:32:58,544 --> 00:33:01,144
THAT SHE ABSOLUTELY BELIEVED
       WHAT SHE WAS DOING

620
00:33:01,246 --> 00:33:03,380
       WAS THE RIGHT THING
    TO DO FOR THOSE CHILDREN.

621
00:33:03,482 --> 00:33:11,021
                     ♪

622
00:33:11,123 --> 00:33:14,224
     Owmby: I MET DR. DIETZ
    FAIRLY EARLY IN THE CASE,

623
00:33:14,326 --> 00:33:15,692
   AND HE CONDUCTED SOMEWHERE

624
00:33:15,794 --> 00:33:19,997
     BETWEEN 10 AND 20 HOURS
OF INTERVIEWS WITH ANDREA YATES.

625
00:33:20,099 --> 00:33:22,265
   I LEARNED THAT HE HAD BEEN
          A CONSULTANT

626
00:33:22,368 --> 00:33:23,800
  TO THE "LAW and ORDER" SERIES.

627
00:33:23,902 --> 00:33:25,869
      HE KNEW OF AN EPISODE

628
00:33:25,971 --> 00:33:28,305
         THAT HAD AIRED
       WITH THAT SCENARIO

629
00:33:28,407 --> 00:33:31,341
         THAT THERE WAS
A FEIGNED MENTAL ILLNESS,

630
00:33:31,443 --> 00:33:33,577
 A PERSON THAT DROWNED A CHILD.

631
00:33:33,679 --> 00:33:35,746
            Parnham:
 RUSTY HAD ALREADY TOUCHED UPON

632
00:33:35,848 --> 00:33:39,016
 THAT HE AND ANDREA WOULD WATCH
         "LAW and ORDER."

633
00:33:39,118 --> 00:33:40,517
   Owmby: IT WAS A REASONABLE,

634
00:33:40,619 --> 00:33:42,953
    IF SOMEWHAT SPECULATIVE,
           CONCLUSION

635
00:33:43,055 --> 00:33:46,323
       THAT IF SHE WATCHED
     THE PROGRAM HABITUALLY

636
00:33:46,425 --> 00:33:49,793
 AND AN EPISODE LIKE THIS AIRED
  THAT SHE WOULD HAVE SEEN IT.

637
00:33:49,895 --> 00:33:52,162
     Parnham: THAT WAS USED
          BY THE STATE

638
00:33:52,264 --> 00:33:53,697
    IN THE CLOSING ARGUMENT.

639
00:33:53,799 --> 00:33:55,399
    Owmby: SHE BEGINS TO GET
VERY DEPRESSED

640
00:33:55,501 --> 00:33:56,733
    AND GOES INTO DEVEREAUX.

641
00:33:56,835 --> 00:33:58,301
   THESE THOUGHTS CAME TO HER.

642
00:33:58,404 --> 00:34:00,337
           SHE WATCHES
    "LAW and ORDER" REGULARLY.

643
00:34:00,439 --> 00:34:03,507
     SHE SEES THIS PROGRAM.

644
00:34:03,609 --> 00:34:05,742
      THERE IS A WAY OUT...

645
00:34:05,844 --> 00:34:08,178
           A WAY OUT.

646
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,415
 Parnham: WE WERE NOT MADE AWARE
OF THE EXISTENCE OF THAT EPISODE

647
00:34:11,517 --> 00:34:15,218
 UNTIL THE TESTIMONY CAME FORTH
       IN FRONT OF A JURY.

648
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,087
DR. DIETZ MADE THE DETERMINATION

649
00:34:17,189 --> 00:34:22,125
    THAT THIS WAS A BLUEPRINT
 FOR ANDREA TO DO WHAT SHE DID.

650
00:34:22,227 --> 00:34:24,961
     WHEN I FOUND OUT ABOUT
THE "LAW and ORDER" EPISODE,

651
00:34:25,064 --> 00:34:28,065
I WAS ABSOLUTELY STUNNED.

652
00:34:35,207 --> 00:34:37,908
Reporter
THE ANDREA YATES CASE IN HOUSTON

653
00:34:38,010 --> 00:34:40,644
BROUGHT NEW AND INTENSE FOCUS
TO THE INSANITY DEFENSE.

654
00:34:40,746 --> 00:34:42,679
Reporter
DRAWN NATIONAL ATTENTION

655
00:34:42,781 --> 00:34:44,848
NOT ONLY BECAUSE
OF THE NATURE OF THE CRIME,

656
00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:47,384
BUT BECAUSE IT RENEWED
LONG-STANDING QUESTIONS

657
00:34:47,486 --> 00:34:48,452
ABOUT HOW THE MENTALLY ILL

658
00:34:48,554 --> 00:34:51,021
ARE HANDLED
IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

659
00:34:51,123 --> 00:34:52,622
IT TOOK THE 12 MEMBERS
OF THE JURY

660
00:34:52,724 --> 00:34:56,226
   ONLY 3 HOURS AND 40 MINUTES
    TO REACH THEIR DECISION.

661
00:34:56,328 --> 00:34:58,161
  Judge: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,
   THE COURT HAS BEEN ADVISED

662
00:34:58,263 --> 00:35:00,030
          THAT THE JURY
      HAS REACHED A VERDICT

663
00:35:00,132 --> 00:35:03,900
     THE COURT DOES NOT KNOW
      WHAT THAT VERDICT IS.

664
00:35:04,002 --> 00:35:06,436
        Parnham: I RECALL
   HAVING A LUMP IN MY THROAT

665
00:35:06,538 --> 00:35:08,772
    WHEN THE JURY CAME BACK.

666
00:35:08,874 --> 00:35:11,875
    Judge: THE STATE OF TEXAS
      VS. ANDREA PIA YATES.

667
00:35:11,977 --> 00:35:14,644
       "WE, THE JURY, FIND
THE DEFENDANT, ANDREA PIA YATES,

668
00:35:14,746 --> 00:35:18,348
GUILTY OF CAPITAL MURDER
AS CHARGED IN THE INDICTMENT."

669
00:35:18,450 --> 00:35:20,484
Reporter
A JURY IN HOUSTON

670
00:35:20,586 --> 00:35:23,820
SENTENCED ANDREA YATES
TO LIFE IN PRISON TODAY

671
00:35:23,922 --> 00:35:26,723
FOR DROWNING HER FIVE CHILDREN
IN A BATHTUB.

672
00:35:26,825 --> 00:35:29,092
SHE COULD HAVE RECEIVED
THE DEATH PENALTY.

673
00:35:29,194 --> 00:35:31,161
Owmby: WE OBVIOUSLY
WERE SATISFIED

674
00:35:31,263 --> 00:35:34,064
THAT THEY HAD REACHED
THE RIGHT CONCLUSION.

675
00:35:34,166 --> 00:35:35,932
IN A PERFECT WORLD,
THE YATES CHILDREN

676
00:35:36,034 --> 00:35:40,270
WOULD BE ALIVE AND THRIVING
IN THE MIDST OF A LOVING FAMILY.

677
00:35:40,372 --> 00:35:41,972
  BUT IN THIS IMPERFECT WORLD,
      THE BEST WE COULD DO

678
00:35:42,074 --> 00:35:44,574
     WAS TO SEE THAT JUSTICE
        WAS DONE FOR THEM

679
00:35:44,676 --> 00:35:46,576
           AS VICTIMS
     OF A HORRENDOUS CRIME.

680
00:35:46,678 --> 00:35:48,545
 Russell: NONE OF US WANTED HER
       TO BE FOUND GUILTY.

681
00:35:48,647 --> 00:35:49,846
            IN FACT,
    MOST OF US WERE OFFENDED

682
00:35:49,948 --> 00:35:51,548
  THAT SHE WAS EVEN PROSECUTED.

683
00:35:51,650 --> 00:35:53,216
            Parnham:
    AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED,

684
00:35:53,318 --> 00:35:55,085
    THE MOST POSITIVE OUTCOME
          OF THIS CASE

685
00:35:55,187 --> 00:35:57,854
        IS THAT AMERICANS
HAVE WITNESSED FIRSTHAND

686
00:35:57,956 --> 00:36:00,490
IN A MOST EXTREME
AND PAINFUL EXAMPLE

687
00:36:00,592 --> 00:36:02,159
THE PLIGHT OF THE MENTALLY ILL.

688
00:36:02,261 --> 00:36:04,744
Reporter
HAD AN ADVANTAGE.

689
00:36:04,847 --> 00:36:07,914
THEY HAD A GENTLEMAN
BY THE NAME OF DR. PARK DIETZ,

690
00:36:08,016 --> 00:36:09,432
WHO'S TESTIFIED
IN A LOT OF CASES.

691
00:36:09,535 --> 00:36:11,568
HE WROTE A 100-PAGE REPORT.

692
00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:12,702
IT WAS VERY COMPREHENSIVE.

693
00:36:12,804 --> 00:36:14,638
THE JURY SEEM TO BELIEVE
HE WAS TRUSTWORTHY.

694
00:36:17,309 --> 00:36:20,177
Parnham: A YOUNG REPORTER
CALLED ME ASIDE

695
00:36:20,279 --> 00:36:22,679
AND QUESTIONED
THE CREDIBILITY OF DR. DIETZ.

696
00:36:22,781 --> 00:36:25,015
SHE WATCHED
EVERY EPISODE OF "LAW and ORDER,"

697
00:36:25,117 --> 00:36:29,119
AND SHE WAS NOT AWARE OF
ANY SUCH SHOW EVER EXISTING.

698
00:36:30,856 --> 00:36:32,689
Owmby: I GOT A CALL
FROM THE PRODUCER

699
00:36:32,791 --> 00:36:34,357
OF THE "LAW and ORDER" SERIES,
RANTING ABOUT

700
00:36:34,459 --> 00:36:36,259
HOW THERE
WAS NEVER SUCH A PROGRAM

701
00:36:36,361 --> 00:36:39,629
AND WONDERED WHAT THE
IMPLICATIONS OF THAT WOULD BE.

702
00:36:39,731 --> 00:36:41,264
Reporter
PARK DIETZ'S TESTIMONY?

703
00:36:41,366 --> 00:36:42,866
DOES THAT KIND OF IMPEACH
THE STATE'S CREDIBILITY?

704
00:36:42,968 --> 00:36:43,900
WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?

705
00:36:44,002 --> 00:36:45,435
Reporter
THEY SAID IT WAS A LIE.

706
00:36:45,537 --> 00:36:48,572
THEY SAID -- WELL, THEY SAID
THAT THE STATEMENT WAS NOT TRUE.

707
00:36:48,674 --> 00:36:51,441
AND THAT'S A SENSE --
IN THE ABSOLUTE SENSE --

708
00:36:51,543 --> 00:36:53,643
A LIE USUALLY IMPLIES THAT
IT WAS SOMETHING INTENTIONAL.

709
00:36:53,745 --> 00:36:55,478
HE MADE A MISTAKE.

710
00:36:55,581 --> 00:36:58,848
DR. DIETZ CONFUSED SOME EPISODES
OF "LAW and ORDER."

711
00:36:58,951 --> 00:37:02,319
AND IN THE MOMENT HE WAS ASKED
ON CROSS-EXAMINATION,

712
00:37:02,421 --> 00:37:07,023
MISTAKENLY TESTIFIED
THAT SUCH AN EPISODE HAD AIRED.

713
00:37:07,125 --> 00:37:09,793
Parnham: I TOOK THAT
TO THE FIRST COURT OF APPEALS,

714
00:37:09,895 --> 00:37:12,996
BEING ABLE TO SHOW
THAT SUCH A SHOW NEVER EXISTED,

715
00:37:13,098 --> 00:37:16,533
AND THE COURT OF APPEALS
REVERSED THAT CASE

716
00:37:16,635 --> 00:37:19,569
ON THE FALSE TESTIMONY
OF PARK DIETZ

717
00:37:19,671 --> 00:37:21,538
UNDER OATH
ON THE WITNESS STAND.

718
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:27,010
♪

719
00:37:27,112 --> 00:37:28,945
Reporter
YATES WAS CONVICTED

720
00:37:29,047 --> 00:37:30,680
OF CAPITAL MURDER
AT HER FIRST TRIAL

721
00:37:30,782 --> 00:37:32,349
AND SENTENCED TO LIFE IN PRISON.

722
00:37:32,451 --> 00:37:33,917
Reporter
THE SECOND TRIAL

723
00:37:34,019 --> 00:37:35,952
    COULD BE A NEAR DUPLICATE
        OF THE FIRST ONE

724
00:37:36,054 --> 00:37:39,356
      WHEN A JURY REJECTED
     YATES INSANITY DEFENSE.

725
00:37:39,458 --> 00:37:41,658
      THE TRIAL COULD LAST
         ABOUT A MONTH.

726
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,193
             Stumpo:
    I WAS SICK TO MY STOMACH.

727
00:37:43,295 --> 00:37:44,761
    I MEAN, HOW MANY CHANCES
            DO YOU --

728
00:37:44,863 --> 00:37:48,064
SHE KILLED FIVE OF HER CHILDREN,

729
00:37:48,166 --> 00:37:50,066
      AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE
           A RETRIAL?

730
00:37:50,168 --> 00:37:53,603
        I MEAN, COME ON.

731
00:37:53,705 --> 00:37:55,772
            Parnham:
     THE JIST OF THIS TRIAL

732
00:37:55,874 --> 00:37:58,675
   WAS ABOUT THE MENTAL HEALTH
OF THE DEFENDANT.

733
00:37:58,777 --> 00:38:01,378
Owmby: THE PUBLIC OPINION
KIND OF CHANGED

734
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,313
FROM "HOW COULD ANYONE DO THIS
TO THESE CHILDREN?

735
00:38:03,415 --> 00:38:05,215
THEY SHOULD BE
EXECUTED IMMEDIATELY."

736
00:38:05,317 --> 00:38:07,784
TO "HOW CAN YOU PROSECUTE
SOMEONE

737
00:38:07,886 --> 00:38:10,654
WHO SUFFERS
FROM THIS MENTAL ILLNESS?"

738
00:38:10,756 --> 00:38:12,222
Reporter
YATES' SUPPORTERS SAY

739
00:38:12,324 --> 00:38:13,857
SHE SHOULD BE TREATED
FOR HER ILLNESS

740
00:38:13,959 --> 00:38:16,359
RATHER THAN PUNISHED
FOR THE CRIME.

741
00:38:16,461 --> 00:38:19,029
Wark: I WAS VERY PLEASED
THAT ANDREA HAD A SECOND TRIAL

742
00:38:19,131 --> 00:38:20,597
             BECAUSE
    SHE'S NOT AN EVIL PERSON.

743
00:38:20,699 --> 00:38:22,699
      SHE'S A CRAZY PERSON.

744
00:38:22,801 --> 00:38:24,367
ENOUGH INFORMATION HAD COME OUT.

745
00:38:24,469 --> 00:38:26,169
     SO I THINK THAT IT WAS
       ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY

746
00:38:26,271 --> 00:38:28,071
    FOR JUSTICE TO BE SERVED.

747
00:38:28,173 --> 00:38:29,706
      Woman: PEOPLE MAY BE
     MUCH MORE SYMPATHETIC.

748
00:38:29,808 --> 00:38:31,207
     BUT ON THE OTHER HAND,
         THE PROSECUTION

749
00:38:31,310 --> 00:38:33,677
   IS CERTAINLY NOT GONNA LET
         ANYBODY FORGET

750
00:38:33,779 --> 00:38:36,646
  EXACTLY WHAT MISS YATES DID.

751
00:38:36,748 --> 00:38:38,615
 Woman
UP A COUPLE OF TIMES.

752
00:38:38,717 --> 00:38:41,951
SHE WAS ABLE TO PUSH HIM DOWN
AND CONTROL HIM

753
00:38:42,054 --> 00:38:43,920
AND FORCE HIM UNDER THAT WATER

754
00:38:44,022 --> 00:38:45,455
UNTIL HE LOST CONTROL
OF HIS BODY.

755
00:38:45,557 --> 00:38:49,092
SHE HAD BEEN CONTEMPLATING
THE KILLING OF THESE CHILDREN

756
00:38:49,194 --> 00:38:51,394
FOR APPROXIMATELY TWO YEARS.

757
00:38:55,567 --> 00:38:58,568
Judge: MR. FOREMAN, HAS THE JURY
REACHED A VERDICT IN EACH CASE?

758
00:38:58,670 --> 00:38:59,803
Man

759
00:38:59,905 --> 00:39:01,738
WILL YOU PLEASE PASS THEM
TO THE BENCH, PLEASE?

760
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:02,872
"WE, THE JURY,

761
00:39:02,974 --> 00:39:04,741
FIND THE DEFENDANT,
ANDREA PIA YATES,

762
00:39:04,843 --> 00:39:08,044
           NOT GUILTY
     BY REASON OF INSANITY."

763
00:39:08,146 --> 00:39:10,914
    Wark: I REMEMBER FEELING
        RELIEVED FOR HER,

764
00:39:11,016 --> 00:39:15,118
       BEING HAPPY FOR HER
         AT THE OUTCOME.

765
00:39:15,220 --> 00:39:19,222
Parnham: MY REACTION WAS NOTHING
       SHORT BUT ECSTATIC.

766
00:39:19,324 --> 00:39:21,925
   I WAS JUST VERY EMOTIONAL.

767
00:39:24,296 --> 00:39:27,564
     Resnick: THE JURY SAID,
  "WE UNDERSTAND THAT SHE KNEW

768
00:39:27,666 --> 00:39:29,666
          WHAT SHE DID
      WAS AGAINST THE LAW,

769
00:39:29,768 --> 00:39:31,935
        BUT SHE BELIEVED
 SHE WAS DOING WHAT WAS RIGHT."

770
00:39:32,037 --> 00:39:33,770
        AND I FOUND THAT
QUITE GRATIFYING

771
00:39:33,872 --> 00:39:35,405
             BECAUSE
    THAT HAD BEEN THE ESSENCE

772
00:39:35,507 --> 00:39:38,408
             OF WHAT
  I HAD BEEN TRYING TO CONVEY.

773
00:39:38,510 --> 00:39:40,844
  WE'RE ALL, YOU KNOW, THRILLED
        WITH THE VERDICT.

774
00:39:40,946 --> 00:39:43,046
      YOU KNOW, LAST TIME,
         THE JUDGE SAID,

775
00:39:43,148 --> 00:39:45,348
         YOU KNOW, "FIND
     THE DEFENDANT GUILTY,"

776
00:39:45,450 --> 00:39:47,517
       AND WE JUST THOUGHT
  SHE LEFT OUT THE WORD "NOT."

777
00:39:47,619 --> 00:39:49,419
     YOU KNOW, AND THIS TIME
  WE HEARD IT, SO WE'RE HAPPY.

778
00:39:49,521 --> 00:39:58,928
                     ♪

779
00:39:59,030 --> 00:40:08,338
                     ♪

780
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:14,377
                     ♪

781
00:40:14,479 --> 00:40:15,779
Owmby: SHE IS CONFINED,

782
00:40:15,881 --> 00:40:19,516
IF NOT BY THE LETTER OF THE LAW,
BY THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE LAW.

783
00:40:22,487 --> 00:40:25,288
    I DON'T BELIEVE ANY JUDGE
      WHO KNOWS THE HISTORY

784
00:40:25,390 --> 00:40:29,025
        OF WHAT HAPPENED
WILL BE INCLINED TO RELEASE HER.

785
00:40:29,127 --> 00:40:31,895
   Parnham: I DECIDED TO START

786
00:40:31,997 --> 00:40:35,265
       THE YATES CHILDREN
         MEMORIAL FUND.

787
00:40:35,367 --> 00:40:37,534
      HOPEFULLY IN SOME WAY
        MAKE A DIFFERENCE

788
00:40:37,636 --> 00:40:38,868
    IN HOW WOMEN ARE TREATED

789
00:40:38,970 --> 00:40:41,805
      IN THE MENTAL HEALTH
    CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

790
00:40:45,477 --> 00:40:49,112
            Resnick:
AS A RESULT OF MRS. YATES' CASE,

791
00:40:49,214 --> 00:40:52,482
   TEXAS ACTUALLY PASSED A LAW

792
00:40:52,584 --> 00:40:56,953
 MANDATING THAT A SCREENING TEST
    FOR POSTPARTUM DEPRESSION

793
00:40:57,055 --> 00:41:01,691
  BE ADMINISTERED TO ALL WOMEN
    WHO GAVE BIRTH IN TEXAS.

794
00:41:04,212 --> 00:41:06,329
 Wark: ONE REASON I HAVEN'T BEEN
     IN TOUCH WITH ANDREA --

795
00:41:06,431 --> 00:41:10,967
 BECAUSE I'VE TREASURED MEMORIES
      OF ANDREA AS HERSELF.

796
00:41:11,069 --> 00:41:15,738
        I REMEMBER ANDREA
AS A VIBRANT, SMART, DILIGENT --

797
00:41:15,841 --> 00:41:19,843
   JUST -- JUST MOST INTEGRITY
    OF ANYONE I'VE EVER MET.

798
00:41:19,945 --> 00:41:23,980
      SHE WAS SO BEAUTIFUL,
JUST SPARKLING WITH LIFE.

799
00:41:24,082 --> 00:41:26,149
   SO THAT'S MY MEMORY OF HER.

800
00:41:26,251 --> 00:41:28,051
  IT'S SO HEARTBREAKING TO ME.
