1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,200 This series presents the investigation of the Aryan Brotherhood of Texas, ABT. 2 00:00:03,280 --> 00:00:06,880 Contains violence and comments racist, real and reconstituted. 3 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,200 Federal agents in Texas they arrested 12 people 4 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,320 suspected to be members of a violent and racist gang. 5 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,440 34 suspects were arrested 6 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,160 following the investigation of the Arian Brotherhood of Texas. 7 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,000 A gang accused of crimes, kidnappings and arms trafficking. 8 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:51,040 James Sampsell was the last general of ABT who had not been convicted. 9 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,760 It was very important to him we're arresting James Sampsell. 10 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:03,000 This is the story of the informants who helped arrest him. 11 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,920 I'm sure there is a price on my head 12 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,560 I was working with the police. Such a thing was unacceptable. 13 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,760 And of a woman who took a risk life to work undercover. 14 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,840 If only he knew he was working for the government, he would have killed her. 15 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,120 He told me: "I know you are informative. I know you lied to me." 16 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,440 "I will torture you for hours before I kill you." 17 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:34,880 THE OPERATION THE ARIAN BROTHERHOOD OF TEXAS 18 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,480 THE INFORMANTS 19 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,760 After the big operation since November 2012, 20 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,360 we arrested the important leaders of the Aryan Brotherhood in Texas. 21 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,680 A man made a mistake to assume the role of general. 22 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,640 His name is James "Skitz" Sampsell. 23 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,960 He was the only ABT general still at large. 24 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:17,040 We decided to focus efforts on him. 25 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:25,280 James Sampsell was a member important of ABT. 26 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,200 He was short and thin. 27 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:34,160 When he spoke, he whistled, because he had been shot in the neck 28 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,600 while working for ABT. 29 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:44,960 The area he was responsible for was formed from Midland, Odessa, 30 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:49,080 El Paso and West Texas. 31 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,000 It was a sparsely populated area. 32 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,600 There were many there oil fields. 33 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,560 Many workers worked there, 34 00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:12,840 who earned a lot of money from overtime. 35 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,840 It was an auspicious place for drug trafficking. 36 00:03:18,920 --> 00:03:25,320 James Sampsell was the main source of drugs from the Odessa region. 37 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:31,320 He was the last ABT general at liberty. 38 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,440 Skitz was one of the the most violent ABT members. 39 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,600 I knew we had to catch him. 40 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,880 Steve Lair was my eyes and ears. 41 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,440 He introduced us to everything that was happening in North Texas. 42 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:04,000 He was tasked with catching of James Sampsell. 43 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:11,440 April 5, 2007 18 months before the operation 44 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:19,120 One evening, I received a phone call from the Royal Inn motel in Dallas. 45 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:26,320 I knew the gang was active there. We went to investigate. 46 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,960 The patrolman told us that it is a scandal. 47 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,680 Those inside did not open the door. 48 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,640 There was a great noise. 49 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:03,880 I opened the door. 50 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,800 They came in like a swarm of bees. 51 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:16,720 The young women were sent in a place near the bathroom. 52 00:05:22,280 --> 00:05:28,080 I saw a lot of money and evidence that prostitution was practiced there. 53 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,800 One of the men looked agitated. 54 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:47,280 I don't know if he was on drugs, but he seemed very agitated. 55 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:54,880 His name was Michael Bianculli. He said his nickname was Crash. 56 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,920 They had a long list of facts for which they could accuse me. 57 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:09,520 I said, "We can charge you for prostitution, identity theft." 58 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:17,240 He told me he was a captain in the ABT. 59 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,640 My area of ​​influence it was in north texas, 60 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,520 from the border with Arkansas to El Paso. 61 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,880 During that time, I was dealing drugs. 62 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:36,240 We had a few houses where they consumed drugs. I also dealt with prostitution. 63 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:50,840 I told him that these are serious charges and may receive years in prison. 64 00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:56,800 They accused me of organized crime. 65 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:01,040 There were several people involved. We also had fake state bonds. 66 00:07:02,840 --> 00:07:06,560 I told him that he has an escape route. 67 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,400 "You want to get rid of the accusations or go to jail?" 68 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:17,720 I told him: "You are becoming an informant secret to us." 69 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,920 "You give me information about great leaders." 70 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:26,360 "You tell me names, locations, members' addresses" 71 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,080 "and criminal activities in which they are involved." 72 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,560 It was not an easy decision. 73 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,880 I had been to prison before, for theft and assault. 74 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:47,480 I was very scared then and no I wanted to go back to prison. 75 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,720 He decided to work for us, to give us information about ABT. 76 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,680 We met in different places. 77 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:29,760 We chose places that offered us privacy and security. 78 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,440 Over the next few months, we talked 79 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:45,080 He told me about his childhood. He had grown up in the area. 80 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,600 Later, he became a member of ABT. 81 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,960 Mother was someone's lover among the founders of the Brotherhood. 82 00:08:56,560 --> 00:09:01,080 Frank Roach. Pancho. He was a general. 83 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:08,000 He was the president of the organization, the head of all generals. 84 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,440 He had everything he wanted. 85 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,200 He had women, he had money. 86 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,960 He had great cars. I was attracted to his lifestyle. 87 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:34,840 It took me a while, but I started to traffic drugs. 88 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:41,840 I was selling methamphetamines. I started building a clientele. 89 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,640 I started selling crystal cocaine at a small hotel, 90 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,440 together with a prostitute. 91 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,800 I didn't think then that I would make it to earn 100,000 per week. 92 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,360 As a secret informant, he was going to get money 93 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,560 depending on the convictions obtained by the prosecution 94 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,680 for criminal activity of ABT members. 95 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,720 My goal was to get information from him 96 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,560 to think I work for them. In fact, they will work for me. 97 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,480 When I talked to Steve, 98 00:10:30,560 --> 00:10:35,560 I tried to make an impression on him that I'm a broke junkie. 99 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:41,040 But we had people picking up the money, who transported the drugs, 100 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,880 who took the girls on dates. 101 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:46,600 I was making money. 102 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,640 I put Crash in a room motel for two days 103 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:09,480 to get information and find targets for us. 104 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:20,280 I knew that in that motel many crimes are committed, 105 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,480 drug trafficking, prostitution, illegal gambling. 106 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:33,560 I saw who was coming what car was he driving 107 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,520 I gave them this information. 108 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,120 Crash pointed us out motel rooms 109 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:50,680 where the targets of our investigation they trafficked drugs, 110 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,000 methamphetamines, marijuana, cocaine. 111 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,200 They came the next day and the arrests began. 112 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,720 They were not ABT members. 113 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,920 They were not my brothers and relatives. They were just drug dealers. 114 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:17,440 And drug addicts. The agents cleaned up. 115 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,800 Crash proved his worth as a secret informant. 116 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:29,800 I made 12 arrests because of it the information received from him. 117 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,320 The brotherhood considered that we were not doing it right. 118 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,160 I was working with the police. Such a thing was unacceptable. 119 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,920 Crash took a big risk. 120 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:50,240 If ABT found out that he cooperate with us, he would have killed him. 121 00:13:03,680 --> 00:13:09,280 A few days later, I was sitting in a room in Fort Worth, Dallas. 122 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,360 As I walked through the parking lot, to my room 123 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,120 I saw a woman on the second floor. 124 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,760 She was a tall blonde, with long legs. 125 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,920 She had a nice ass. 126 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,680 She was somewhat educated. 127 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,960 She wasn't a bad junkie. 128 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,480 That was the day I met her Carol Blevins. 129 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,320 Carol Blevins has grown up in Murphy, Texas. 130 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,320 He came from a family from the middle class. 131 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,280 Both parents had jobs. 132 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:15,080 She was athletic, she had taken classes dance and ballet. 133 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,120 She was a typical high school girl. 134 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:23,360 But he dropped out of school when he was 16 years old. 135 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,400 For a while, she worked as a stripper in Dallas. 136 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,720 Then, around age 25, started taking methamphetamines. 137 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:40,600 She became addicted, and the men of her life they took advantage of it. 138 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,880 We talked. I told him who I am and what I do. 139 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,640 I told him I was an ABT member. 140 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,920 We got along well. 141 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,760 I thought about taking it out on the product. 142 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:08,040 You have to do it differently to you put women to work for you. 143 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,680 You take a woman, make her your girlfriend, 144 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,360 then you put it on the market. 145 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,880 My goal was to put her to work. 146 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,880 Women members of ABT, called featherwood, 147 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,680 are fully controlled by them. 148 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:32,960 I am their property. I do what they say. 149 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:38,480 No discussions. Once you enter in the game, you are theirs. 150 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,000 They rate their women. 151 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,960 Look to see which one is brave and willing to do various, 152 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,000 which brings it to an end. 153 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:59,880 In difficult situations, it is necessary by a strong woman 154 00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:04,840 to go to battle with her husband. 155 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,440 A featherwood must do what her husband tells her. 156 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,680 I'll give you an example with Carol. 157 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,800 One day, he went to the store to buy cigarettes and drink. 158 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,000 when he came back 159 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:33,040 a group of men approached her. He insulted them, 160 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:37,360 it made them "crazy", he told them that her husband is going to kill them. 161 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:43,080 Of course they came after her, determined to have my way. 162 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,760 They saw me and... 163 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,360 The situation has changed. They decided to do nothing. 164 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,040 I took her into the house 165 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,120 and I beat her. 166 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,280 He learned that no matter where we are, 167 00:17:15,360 --> 00:17:18,840 if not spoken to, he must keep his mouth shut. 168 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,320 You don't want such a life. 169 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,760 It is dangerous and degrading. 170 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,280 It is violent and scary. 171 00:17:33,360 --> 00:17:38,640 All the promises made by ABT are lies. 172 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:53,720 In November 2010, Crash told me that he contacted James Sampsell. 173 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,040 It was a big deal for us. 174 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,560 I met Skitz in prison. 175 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,440 We were both released on the same day. 176 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:09,120 He found out who I was, I found out who he was. We were brothers. We talked. 177 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,760 He said we will make money. 178 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,080 Crash contacted Skitz. 179 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,960 We had the opportunity to build a case against him. 180 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:19,520 Police registration 181 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:25,200 It's December 8, 2010, 1:20 p.m. 182 00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:28,360 I'm Michael Bianculli. 183 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:33,560 I'm calling James Sampsell about it with a message received by me. 184 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,920 - Hello, brother! - What's the matter, ugly! 185 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:47,600 - My trailer caught fire. - For real? 186 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,840 That would have been the pinnacle, to die of suffocation, 187 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,520 after everything that happened to you. 188 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,440 That's right. And I don't even smoke. 189 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,560 - You don't smoke. - That's right. 190 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,960 You were shot in the head and you suffered many others. 191 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,320 I talked to Skitz about a deal with a Mexican cartel 192 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,680 who bought expensive drugs. 193 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,000 Skitz had a combination. 194 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,760 Steal pickup trucks from the US, 195 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:32,640 he was taking them to the border with Mexico and sold them to the Mexican cartels. 196 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,320 They were generally F-250 pickup trucks. 197 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,120 Skitz was earning tens of thousands of dollars from their sale, 198 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,320 and Crash got a percentage from the gain. 199 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:56,320 I decided to involve Crash in Skitz's combination. 200 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,880 I gave him $5,000, to make the transaction. 201 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,760 The plan was like Crash and other ABT members 202 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,040 to bring the trucks to Dallas, the next day. 203 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,960 It was the opportunity I needed to arrest the general. 204 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,920 We wanted to put in the vans tracking devices, 205 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,680 to prove that Skitz was taking them on the border with Mexico 206 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,440 and delivered them to a cartel. 207 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:53,280 I was standing at the truck stop and I was wondering where Crash was. 208 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,360 And time passed. 209 00:21:03,360 --> 00:21:07,480 I kept calling Crash. He didn't answer. 210 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,480 I could only hear the voice mail. 211 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,880 I said, "I'm Steve. I have to call one of us." 212 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,080 "Call now! We need to know where you are." 213 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,720 He didn't even answer the phone, not even messages. Something was wrong. 214 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:41,560 I called him several times on Crash. 215 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,880 I didn't know where he was, where they were the vans. I was nervous. 216 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,560 The vans didn't show up. 217 00:21:57,360 --> 00:22:00,880 Bianculli didn't come either. 218 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,280 I was scared. 219 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:16,560 I thought it was a stupid thing to do this when you work with a cartel. 220 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,480 I was afraid they would find tracking devices. 221 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:25,320 You think he would have gone after the agent my Not. He would have come after me. 222 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:33,760 We managed to locate him in Dallas, in an apartment complex. 223 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,240 We started watching him. 224 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:42,920 The door opened. 225 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,480 Carol and Crash left the apartment. 226 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,320 I followed Crash. 227 00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:23,920 I made a risky stop in traffic, guns drawn. 228 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:29,360 I knew I was done. I didn't know how bad it would be. 229 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:41,920 In the car, I found crystal cocaine, pipe and 1,000 dollars, 230 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:46,680 enough to accuse Crash for possession of narcotics. 231 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,640 I visited Crash in prison Dallas District Court. 232 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:10,560 I took them to the interrogation room and I asked him why he did that. 233 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,800 This whole thing with Steve Lair it was a struggle for me. 234 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:22,160 I was very tense, very worried 235 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,360 Bianculli was deactivated because I discovered 236 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:33,200 that he trafficked drugs with government money. 237 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:41,080 Crash made a deal with an ABT member from Odessa. 238 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:46,400 He bought drugs with the money I gave him. 239 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:53,000 I was very angry. The investigation required time and effort. 240 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,320 Many people worked, a lot of money was invested. 241 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,000 Crash ruined everything. 242 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,320 I can't tell you how angry I was. 243 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,000 His attitude and arrogance 244 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,680 they made him believe that he can control the situation, 245 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,960 that he can play on ABT fingers and law enforcement. 246 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:18,440 That he can do his own business without suffering. He was mistaken. 247 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,440 After staying three years in prison, 248 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,840 Michael "Crash" Bianculli left the Arian Brotherhood in Texas. 249 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,160 To be honest, I was amazed that Crash wasn't killed. 250 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,800 It was informative for law enforcement. 251 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,640 He gave information about ABT, 252 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,040 what it represents a death sentence. 253 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,400 I think he was lucky. 254 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,720 I'm sure there is a price on my head. 255 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,680 I am not easy to kill. I was shot three times. 256 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:01,120 I was stabbed four times, beaten and left to die. 257 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,200 And I'm still alive. 258 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,040 Crash ruined our plans to arrest Skitz. 259 00:26:14,120 --> 00:26:17,680 We had to find a new way to reach him. 260 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:22,360 I met Carol when she was staying with Crash at a motel in Carrollton. 261 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:32,560 She was Crash's wife and did not look up. 262 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,000 He only spoke if you spoke to him. 263 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,480 Crash was out of the game, and Carol was vulnerable. 264 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:48,120 She was no longer the wife of an ABT member. 265 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,360 What could he do in life? 266 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,160 We told him we want him to become secret informant for us. 267 00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:17,760 I told her she would be paid for the information 268 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,400 which helps us in the investigation ABT members. 269 00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:28,400 Carol thought for a while. 270 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,280 Then he said he does everything to help us arrest them. 271 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,840 I was amazed. 272 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,560 send me to prison then they use my woman. 273 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,280 They manage to do what I didn't. 274 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,760 I moved Carol at Midland, Odessa. 275 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,680 There is a group there of important members of ABT, 276 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,000 in the so-called Region 4. 277 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,240 It was a faction very violent of ABT. 278 00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:26,920 Due to the relationship with Crash, Carol knew many ABT members. 279 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,600 James "Skitz" Sampsell lived in Midland, Odessa. 280 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:39,280 We thought we had a chance to get information about him. 281 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,640 a period of time, Carol provided us with information 282 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:50,120 about ABT members with whom Skitz communicated. 283 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,640 Recording the conversation between Carol Blevins and a featherwood ABT. 284 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,560 I'm Carol. Hello! 285 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,400 what happened with your ex boyfriend? 286 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:07,800 He was arrested in Odessa. He had two grams of heroin on him. 287 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,280 They were all arrested. 288 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,880 Almost all of them ended up in prison. 289 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,320 I'm in federal prison from the Nectar district. 290 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,400 I talk to Solo almost every day. 291 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:26,160 He has a cell phone at the prison and calls me. 292 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,200 He told us names which I did not know 293 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,880 of some ABT members. 294 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,920 Two of them were Solo and Voodoo. 295 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,960 When you give information to the police about the most violent gang in the US, 296 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:49,200 the psychological pressure is huge. 297 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,440 We can only imagine how stressed she was. 298 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:03,120 She had to appear loyal to the organization 299 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,960 and at the same time to give us information about her. 300 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,840 Carol acted undercover a few months. 301 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,480 One evening, he called me. 302 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,320 He told me: "You won't believe it." 303 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,160 "See you with Skitz." 304 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,520 Carol Blevins was Skitz's girlfriend. 305 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:51,480 We had a person who could provide us information about a general ABT. 306 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,280 Carol is Skitz's wife. They lived together 307 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,680 they ate together they did everything together. 308 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,800 It was the perfect opportunity let's place Carol 309 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:13,960 at the heart of Skitz's work and build the case against him. 310 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,600 We started watching the motel where Carol and Skitz lived. 311 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,480 It was a miracle. 312 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,320 There was the man whom we wanted to arrest, 313 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,040 and Carol was next to him. 314 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,160 For several months, Carol gave me information. 315 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,160 Skitz was getting more involved in methamphetamine trafficking. 316 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,000 Skitz told you he went to the Fort Worth, at the home of a Mexican cartel, 317 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,120 to buy methamphetamines, but he was tricked. 318 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,880 Did he tell you what cartel it was? 319 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,800 He said he was dealing on a large scale 320 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,760 and that he sends money to Mexico. 321 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,120 A lot of money. 322 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,360 Large sums of money and kilograms of methamphetamine. 323 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,280 Carol was not stupid. 324 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,520 He took safety measures when he contacted us. 325 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:50,520 Phone with card, Amazon Kindle... So that she wouldn't be discovered by Skitz. 326 00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:01,960 If only ABT knew they were working as an informant for the government 327 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,760 and would have proved it, would have killed her. 328 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,240 The game has changed. 329 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,840 We started using the information provided by Carol 330 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:27,920 to stop the operation of drug trafficking of ABT. 331 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,200 But I didn't have enough evidence to accuse Sampsell. 332 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,120 It was rumored that Carol provide information 333 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,440 about Solo and Voodoo, members of ABT. 334 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,560 Skitz and Carol went to Fort Worth. 335 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,960 Skitz accused Carol that she is informative. 336 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:58,760 He took her phone, disassembled it, he put it on board and said... 337 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,560 Carol, if I find out it was you, 338 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,280 I torture you for hours before i kill you 339 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:15,640 I will do this with my hand, because you lied to me 340 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,960 Carol had to convince him on Skitz that she was not an informant, 341 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,320 that she loved him, that she was his woman. 342 00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:31,640 He knew I was scared. 343 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,920 He knew I was worried. 344 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,240 It is not known how, but he succeeded to remove his suspicions. 345 00:34:53,680 --> 00:35:00,120 Withstood a wave of accusations and threats. 346 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,880 She was strong. 347 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,480 I followed Skitz and Carol to a motel in Fort Worth. 348 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:19,160 I told Carol: "Maybe they're testing you. Don't give in!" 349 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,520 "If you feel you have to run, that's what you do." 350 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,560 I didn't know what was happening in the motel room. 351 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,440 Carol was not answering the phone, not even messages. 352 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,880 But I couldn't intervene, so as not to expose it. 353 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,040 Suddenly, the door opens. 354 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,320 Carol runs out. 355 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,160 He runs for his life. 356 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,640 Miss Blevins came at our office. 357 00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:51,040 I recorded the interview. 358 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,760 Carol thought that Skitz he intended to kill her. 359 00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:02,560 He looked at me and said that he knows I'm an informant, 360 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,520 that everyone knows what I did. 361 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:12,480 He talked to someone on the phone. He told him he had to get rid of me. 362 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:18,280 He said to get in the car. 363 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,000 I told him I wasn't going nowhere with him. 364 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:26,960 He said to get in the car. He was very nervous. 365 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,240 If only he hadn't left the room then, he would not be alive now. 366 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,760 Carol Blevins is one of the most brave people I know. 367 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:46,240 He did all that in exceptional conditions. 368 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,840 She could be killed at any time. 369 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,880 Carol risked her life. 370 00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,400 He paid a high price for the sacrifices he made 371 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,760 so we can put an end to it of the Arian Brotherhood of Texas. 372 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,600 Carol Blevins is hiding in a secret place. 373 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,440 Carol Blevins will not have never a normal life. 374 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:23,480 He is a person who has a goal on the back. There is a price on her head. 375 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,880 He became the target of the Arian Brotherhood of Texas. 376 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,040 I know there is a price on Carol's head. 377 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,760 I talked to people who said 378 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,600 that they will kill her where they find her. 379 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:48,760 Skitz knew she was an informant. We had to arrest him. 380 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:55,480 A few days later, he sold them drugs to an undercover agent. 381 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,240 Photos by Skitz from the police. 382 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,400 When I intervened, Skitz fled in a car. 383 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,080 The chase began. 384 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,560 During the chase, he threw methamphetamines on the window. 385 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,720 The police stopped him with a band of spikes. 386 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,640 Skitz was arrested. 387 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,880 The arrest of James "Skitz" Sampsell it was a great achievement. 388 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,440 He was the only general who hadn't been indicted until then. 389 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,840 James Sampsell was accused of organized criminal activities 390 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,240 and was convicted to 12 years in prison. 391 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,600 We managed to convict all ABT management. 392 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,880 As a result of the investigation, Arian Brotherhood of Texas 393 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,480 it wasn't even close just as strong and violent. 394 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,680 In the past 7-8 years since the end of the investigation, 395 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,600 she was not involved in any kind of violent incident. 396 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,840 Richard Boehning saw this hateful band. 397 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,600 He saw the disaster which he leaves behind 398 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,920 and wanted to stop it. 399 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:47,200 For six years, he concentrated on this mission. 400 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,040 He never gave up. 401 00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:54,640 It's remarkable. 402 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:02,400 I'm proud of the team that was with me for six years. 403 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,680 I was very successful. 404 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,120 It was important to bring them ABT members in front of the court 405 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,840 for the victims' families made by this band 406 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:27,360 such as Christy Brown and Breanna Taylor, who were killed. 407 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,480 It's a thing of which we are all proud. 408 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,760 Certainly, the difference was seen.