1 00:00:10,380 --> 00:00:15,320 He looked half burned and, like, half decomposed. 2 00:00:15,740 --> 00:00:18,820 This is very bad. Like, I think I'm dying. 3 00:00:19,220 --> 00:00:20,680 My marriage is in trouble. 4 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,260 He's always angry, it seems, when he's here. 5 00:00:23,580 --> 00:00:27,580 You love your wife? I feel like something here is working against us. 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,600 Uh -oh. I think I'm really, really hurt. 7 00:00:32,980 --> 00:00:37,320 Like, I just want to walk away and just look back. 8 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,320 It's not a good situation. 9 00:00:42,900 --> 00:00:46,460 He wants everyone to just leave. He wants to be left alone. 10 00:00:49,460 --> 00:00:50,960 He wants the person dead. 11 00:00:51,300 --> 00:00:52,820 My name is Amy Allen. 12 00:00:53,500 --> 00:00:56,700 I see dead people. I saw a winged creature. 13 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,940 I speak to dead people, and they speak to me. 14 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,640 This person feels like a monster. 15 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,760 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 16 00:01:06,980 --> 00:01:10,040 They are sucking the life out of these people. 17 00:01:10,700 --> 00:01:12,220 I rely on my partner. 18 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,700 I'm Steve DeShop. I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 19 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,980 So how many bodies are we talking? And I know every person, every house has 20 00:01:20,980 --> 00:01:24,980 secrets. It's my job to reveal them. But Steve and I never speak. 21 00:01:25,180 --> 00:01:28,600 We never communicate during an investigation. Until the very end. 22 00:01:28,940 --> 00:01:30,160 You're not going to like this. 23 00:01:30,780 --> 00:01:34,680 When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay. I'm sorry. I need to take a break. 24 00:01:35,460 --> 00:01:39,280 We're timed to get out at once inside the house because I want to kill you. 25 00:01:52,020 --> 00:01:55,900 I'm here in the coastal city of Bluffton, South Carolina. It's a couple 26 00:01:55,900 --> 00:01:56,900 south of Charleston. 27 00:01:57,140 --> 00:01:59,800 I got a call from a small business owner named Michelle. 28 00:02:00,300 --> 00:02:01,680 And she sounded real upset. 29 00:02:02,140 --> 00:02:05,820 Tells me whatever's going on inside her restaurant is destroying her health and 30 00:02:05,820 --> 00:02:06,820 her marriage. 31 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,639 Desperate. My husband and I were desperate. 32 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,220 We have a lot of activity here. 33 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,020 I don't think we're going to be here very much longer. 34 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,640 My heart goes out to Michelle. And I'm hoping we can help her out so she 35 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:19,940 have to shut down her family business. 36 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,560 Oh, boy. 37 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,680 I am very anxious here. 38 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,180 It's like to the point where I'm shaking. 39 00:02:39,300 --> 00:02:43,380 I don't know why, but it's making me very upset and anxious. 40 00:02:50,460 --> 00:02:54,640 So, Michelle, when I drive up and I look at this place, I'm like, well, she's 41 00:02:54,640 --> 00:02:56,080 living the dream. She has her own restaurant. 42 00:02:56,380 --> 00:02:57,860 But you sounded pretty desperate on the phone. 43 00:02:58,200 --> 00:02:59,200 I am desperate. 44 00:02:59,530 --> 00:03:01,910 We took this place over about four years ago. 45 00:03:02,110 --> 00:03:07,510 Okay. We've been really successful here, but it's coming at a huge cost. 46 00:03:08,070 --> 00:03:09,570 My marriage is in trouble. 47 00:03:09,850 --> 00:03:11,930 The only explanation can be paranormal. 48 00:03:12,370 --> 00:03:15,870 Can you do me a favor and just give me a list of what's going on here? 49 00:03:16,190 --> 00:03:21,690 We hear voices, mood swings, mood changes. We see apparitions. 50 00:03:22,530 --> 00:03:27,170 We feel like you're constantly being watched and my health. 51 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:29,160 It's deteriorated. 52 00:03:29,740 --> 00:03:30,840 What's going on with your health? 53 00:03:31,820 --> 00:03:36,160 My health has suffered really bad. 54 00:03:36,820 --> 00:03:38,100 I had a heart attack. 55 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:39,320 I had a stroke. 56 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,980 I was recently diagnosed as a type 1 diabetic. 57 00:03:44,220 --> 00:03:45,260 I have vertigo. 58 00:03:45,660 --> 00:03:47,920 I have all over pain. 59 00:03:48,780 --> 00:03:52,480 So I got to tell you, Michelle, I can't believe this help list of issues you 60 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:53,700 have. Yeah, it's embarrassing. 61 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:55,560 Well, it's not embarrassing. 62 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,540 I mean, you think the paranormal's causing this? 63 00:03:58,260 --> 00:04:02,420 It's the only thing that makes sense to me. You said to me that the paranormal 64 00:04:02,420 --> 00:04:03,900 here is trying to wreck your marriage. 65 00:04:04,140 --> 00:04:05,980 I mean, what do you mean by that? 66 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,860 He's always angry, it seems, when he's here. 67 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,600 He thinks everyone's out to get him. 68 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:17,060 He's a little paranoid, depressed, quiet, withdrawn. 69 00:04:17,700 --> 00:04:20,980 Now, what about you? Have you had these mood changes? 70 00:04:21,399 --> 00:04:23,680 I don't get angry. I get really depressed. 71 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,140 Okay. I don't feel well when I'm here. I don't want to be here. 72 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:28,680 What do you think whatever is here wants? 73 00:04:28,980 --> 00:04:33,340 I just felt like whatever it was just didn't want us here. And it was going to 74 00:04:33,340 --> 00:04:36,920 do that just by making him miserable until he just left. 75 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:42,260 Or making me sick enough until I was dead. 76 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:45,440 I'm sorry. 77 00:04:45,460 --> 00:04:47,340 Thank you. 78 00:04:50,020 --> 00:04:54,300 Sometimes I feel like it's going to be okay, and then sometimes I feel like we 79 00:04:54,300 --> 00:04:56,020 just need to leave. 80 00:04:56,260 --> 00:04:57,280 Have you thought about that? 81 00:04:57,660 --> 00:05:02,780 We have, but we've put everything we have into this place. 82 00:05:03,260 --> 00:05:05,020 We don't have really a lot of options. 83 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,960 I'm seeing a lot of dead people around me. 84 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,130 Yeah, there's a lot of... Dead here, man. 85 00:05:23,130 --> 00:05:24,730 They're coming like this? 86 00:05:26,450 --> 00:05:28,450 These are some men. 87 00:05:33,670 --> 00:05:39,410 I don't know why there's so many dead here. I don't know. It's weird. 88 00:05:40,170 --> 00:05:45,830 There are a lot of dead that are coming and going around here. 89 00:05:46,490 --> 00:05:48,030 They want to leave. 90 00:05:48,470 --> 00:05:53,570 They're mainly trying to get help, trying to get people's attention. 91 00:06:02,090 --> 00:06:03,290 What's going on in here? 92 00:06:03,730 --> 00:06:05,570 A lot happens in the bar. 93 00:06:06,090 --> 00:06:11,250 In this area in particular, you feel like you're always being watched, like 94 00:06:11,250 --> 00:06:14,050 there's always, you know, someone here. 95 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,860 It's a really uncomfortable feeling. Okay, so while we're sitting here, do 96 00:06:17,860 --> 00:06:18,759 feel this now? 97 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,380 I feel something. I don't feel the same as if I were alone. 98 00:06:23,340 --> 00:06:24,800 Okay, so anything else? 99 00:06:25,460 --> 00:06:30,780 Sometimes I'll be seated at the end of the bar, and I'll see a shadow walk from 100 00:06:30,780 --> 00:06:32,680 the kitchen to the door. 101 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:34,780 Obviously, this is a main road out here. 102 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:35,639 Mm -hmm. 103 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,160 Couldn't have been something going by on the road? 104 00:06:38,420 --> 00:06:42,880 No, because it's different. This clearly looked like a person walking on the 105 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:43,659 other side. 106 00:06:43,660 --> 00:06:45,660 Do you think you're going a little nutty? Sometimes. 107 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:56,020 I see one tall shadow figure to the left and then a 108 00:06:56,020 --> 00:06:57,340 bunch of little shadow figures. 109 00:06:58,280 --> 00:07:04,440 The two, like, adult -sized ones both do seem to be female -shaped. 110 00:07:04,740 --> 00:07:10,320 If people were to interact with them or see them, it would be mostly out here in 111 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:11,320 this area. 112 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,200 And what is it they'd see? 113 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,960 They would see shadows, all different heights. 114 00:07:18,860 --> 00:07:22,120 It's making me very upset and anxious. 115 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,500 Okay, so anything else? 116 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:33,700 Every single employee of mine, including myself, has fallen in this restaurant. 117 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:35,660 Has everybody fallen in the same place? 118 00:07:36,020 --> 00:07:40,180 Yes. There's two locations. One is right here in the bar in this area. 119 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:45,340 Okay. And the other place is going from the dining room into the hallway to the 120 00:07:45,340 --> 00:07:48,680 kitchen. So there's no liquid on the floor or anything like that causing it? 121 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,640 In the bar, two people have actually said they feel like they were pushed. 122 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:57,940 So did anybody get badly hurt? The one girl ended up going to the hospital. She 123 00:07:57,940 --> 00:07:59,080 didn't work for a few weeks. 124 00:07:59,500 --> 00:08:03,420 Are you concerned that since it's now going after employees that it may start 125 00:08:03,420 --> 00:08:04,399 going after customers? 126 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:05,560 Absolutely, yeah. 127 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,500 So with everything you're telling me, Michelle, it sounds like... 128 00:08:08,730 --> 00:08:11,770 Trying to save the business you love, the man you love. 129 00:08:12,930 --> 00:08:16,570 But it also sounds like we may be trying to save your life here because it 130 00:08:16,570 --> 00:08:17,570 sounds like you're in danger. 131 00:08:18,110 --> 00:08:20,890 And as the years go on, I feel more and more like that. 132 00:08:23,890 --> 00:08:25,750 Any idea why there are so many dead here? 133 00:08:26,290 --> 00:08:28,030 The dead just don't rest here. 134 00:08:28,490 --> 00:08:30,350 They don't move on. 135 00:08:32,690 --> 00:08:33,830 They need assistance. 136 00:08:34,510 --> 00:08:37,789 What kind of effects would all of this traffic have on a living? 137 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,860 I think they would have quite a lot of experiences. 138 00:08:42,500 --> 00:08:44,640 It would be very draining for them, I think. 139 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,760 This is just a weird thing that I've encountered. 140 00:08:51,420 --> 00:08:53,880 It's just inexplicable. It's just bizarre. 141 00:09:17,870 --> 00:09:19,690 So, Alexandra, I understand you work here. 142 00:09:19,970 --> 00:09:21,850 I do. Have you had experiences here? 143 00:09:22,090 --> 00:09:25,630 Yes. Okay, so let's talk about one of them. One night I was sitting at the bar 144 00:09:25,630 --> 00:09:27,350 with my coworkers, and I got poked. 145 00:09:28,050 --> 00:09:29,110 You got poked where? 146 00:09:29,630 --> 00:09:31,550 I got poked in the middle of my shoulder blade. 147 00:09:32,090 --> 00:09:33,090 Okay, on your back? 148 00:09:33,110 --> 00:09:35,850 Yeah. Could something have fallen from the ceiling? I mean, there's palmetto 149 00:09:35,850 --> 00:09:36,850 bugs. This is the South. 150 00:09:37,170 --> 00:09:38,330 Could anything have hit you? 151 00:09:38,650 --> 00:09:41,010 No. No, this was a poke from the back. 152 00:09:42,150 --> 00:09:43,150 Okay, so anything else? 153 00:09:43,660 --> 00:09:46,980 I see the apparition of two different women. Do me a favor and tell me about 154 00:09:46,980 --> 00:09:47,719 first one. 155 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,160 She appears to be a showgirl. 156 00:09:49,820 --> 00:09:52,740 Something you'd see in Vegas, like at a show? Yeah, it reminds me of that. 157 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,440 So now you said there was a second one. 158 00:09:54,700 --> 00:09:58,080 That is an older woman with a little girl. 159 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,080 Okay. They're around the 1800 type period. 160 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,880 What do you think the entities that are here want? 161 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,520 I think they want to occupy the space, and I think they want to take over 162 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:08,520 anybody who's here. 163 00:10:15,430 --> 00:10:22,230 There's a woman and she's wearing this dress and it reminds me of like a 164 00:10:22,230 --> 00:10:24,670 pageant kind of dress. 165 00:10:25,570 --> 00:10:29,350 I'm seeing another woman besides the one in the pageant dress. 166 00:10:29,910 --> 00:10:34,010 She's looking very much like a bar girl out of the Old West. 167 00:10:36,870 --> 00:10:42,090 The woman in the pageant looking dress very much tried to be seen. 168 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,240 She says that she's knocking a lot. 169 00:10:45,820 --> 00:10:49,500 So I'm assuming she's knocking on the bar. 170 00:10:49,740 --> 00:10:55,020 The other thing is, is I think there's a living female who's seen this dead 171 00:10:55,020 --> 00:10:56,020 woman. 172 00:10:58,500 --> 00:11:00,320 I think she freaked out. 173 00:11:03,460 --> 00:11:10,260 This other woman, who I think was a prostitute, she does stuff in the 174 00:11:10,260 --> 00:11:11,260 bathroom. 175 00:11:12,060 --> 00:11:16,740 I think she chooses the bathroom to make people, you know, it's the most 176 00:11:16,740 --> 00:11:19,020 uncomfortable. You know, people are the most vulnerable. 177 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:21,280 Yeah. 178 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:29,680 Julio, it's good to see you. 179 00:11:29,900 --> 00:11:33,340 Congratulations on all the success of the restaurant. I hear you guys got a 180 00:11:33,340 --> 00:11:34,299 bunch of awards. 181 00:11:34,300 --> 00:11:37,520 But it sounds like it came at a price with all the paranormal stuff going on 182 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,040 here. Yes, we've been having a lot of problems. 183 00:11:41,990 --> 00:11:43,590 What's going on? What have you experienced? 184 00:11:45,990 --> 00:11:47,850 Okay, do me a favor and tell me about them. 185 00:11:50,290 --> 00:11:51,290 Really? 186 00:11:51,470 --> 00:11:56,430 So you've seen a lot of these shadow figures? 187 00:11:58,970 --> 00:12:03,890 You're surprised you haven't ran out of here? I bet you it has. 188 00:12:04,290 --> 00:12:05,290 What else is going on? 189 00:12:18,830 --> 00:12:22,210 All right, now you're sure it's not some employee messing around with you? 190 00:12:24,770 --> 00:12:25,810 Anything else? 191 00:12:30,390 --> 00:12:31,390 Okay. 192 00:12:35,170 --> 00:12:38,270 Show me what it might sound like with the dishes. Can you do that? Sure. 193 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,800 Like that. All right, so that's annoying. 194 00:12:45,180 --> 00:12:49,060 I know you have a lot of truck traffic out here. Could the truck traffic, the 195 00:12:49,060 --> 00:12:51,400 weight of the truck, make these things rattle? 196 00:12:51,820 --> 00:12:53,100 No, because they are heavy. 197 00:12:57,260 --> 00:12:58,920 I encountered a dead male. 198 00:12:59,680 --> 00:13:01,180 He's in his death state. 199 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:07,700 So he's sitting on, like, a wooden rocking chair. He looked, like, half 200 00:13:07,700 --> 00:13:10,260 and, like, half decomposed. 201 00:13:11,500 --> 00:13:16,460 He's wearing a vest and he's got a hat on. 202 00:13:16,940 --> 00:13:21,180 And I said, you know, what do you want? And he said he wants everyone to just 203 00:13:21,180 --> 00:13:22,980 leave. He wants to be left alone. 204 00:13:25,420 --> 00:13:29,180 This seems to be more where the dude in the rocking chair hangs out. 205 00:13:29,420 --> 00:13:36,320 I think he does do things in this area to try to get 206 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:37,320 people out of here. 207 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:42,360 She says he's like throwing, he's making extremely loud noises. 208 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:47,540 You know, to me it almost sounds like if you took the pots and the pans and 209 00:13:47,540 --> 00:13:51,760 you're banging them together, you know, like metal on metal, you know what I 210 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,920 mean? Like bang, bang, bang, clatter, clatter, clatter, clatter, clatter. So 211 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:55,920 that's his thing. 212 00:13:56,260 --> 00:13:57,260 That's his situation. 213 00:14:00,820 --> 00:14:01,820 Anything else? 214 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,680 I get a lot of mood changes. 215 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:05,220 Michelle told me about this. 216 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,780 Describe what kind of mood changes we're talking about. 217 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,480 Just out of the nowhere, I get really angry. 218 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:17,120 Okay. And I don't know why, but if I'm not angry, I feel kind of like 219 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,380 Okay. But just when I'm here. 220 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,680 When I talk to Michelle, she actually thinks that your marriage is in danger 221 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:27,960 with all this mood stuff going on. Yes, I've been thinking to leave everything, 222 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:32,560 to leave my wife, the restaurant, the house. I mean, I get to walk. 223 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:33,960 Do you love your wife? 224 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:34,799 Yes, I do. 225 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,420 And you don't want to leave her? 226 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:37,680 No. 227 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,640 Do you think whatever's here is putting these thoughts in your head? 228 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:42,780 I 229 00:14:42,780 --> 00:14:54,380 just 230 00:14:54,380 --> 00:15:01,080 feel really weak. 231 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,380 I feel like I can't control my legs. 232 00:15:06,830 --> 00:15:09,230 This is coming from the guy in the rocking chair. 233 00:15:09,710 --> 00:15:13,770 I don't think that this would be a very comfortable area to be in. Would the 234 00:15:13,770 --> 00:15:19,830 living have any experiences with this? You definitely feel fear, an insane 235 00:15:19,830 --> 00:15:22,930 amount of fear and anxiety. 236 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,500 So I did some digging, and it turns out Michelle and Julio's restaurant sits 237 00:15:40,500 --> 00:15:42,240 right in the middle of an old plantation. 238 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,300 I'm heading over to meet a local author who says the place ended up literally 239 00:15:47,300 --> 00:15:48,300 going up in flames. 240 00:15:55,500 --> 00:15:58,660 So, Dr. Rowland, I appreciate you meeting with me and helping me out with 241 00:15:58,660 --> 00:16:02,280 case. So let's get down to it. Who owned this plantation that my client's 242 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,680 property is built on? The Colleton family. 243 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:10,080 They acquired it in 1718 after the Indian Wars. 244 00:16:10,420 --> 00:16:15,900 Did this Colleton family live on the plantation and oversee everything? How 245 00:16:15,900 --> 00:16:16,319 it work? 246 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:22,340 No, they lived near Charleston. They left the work to the overseer and 247 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,000 maybe 100 slaves on that plantation. 248 00:16:25,380 --> 00:16:26,580 That's a lot of slaves, though. 249 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,820 So what were the living conditions like if they didn't live there? Did they have 250 00:16:30,820 --> 00:16:33,600 a house for the overseers, or how did it work? 251 00:16:33,980 --> 00:16:38,760 Yes, they would have had a large house for the overseers and small cabins on 252 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:39,760 street for the slaves. 253 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:44,320 So, Doctor, you mentioned on the phone to me that the plantation literally went 254 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,120 up in flames. What year did that happen? 255 00:16:47,180 --> 00:16:51,380 1779. Okay, so do the Colletons still own the property when it went on fire? 256 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,980 Yes, it was owned by Louisa Carolina Colleton, and here is her portrait. 257 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,180 All right, so, Doctor, what caused the fire? 258 00:17:01,660 --> 00:17:02,660 The British Army. 259 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:08,520 on their way to Charleston in 1779, burned the houses, stole the goods, 260 00:17:08,579 --> 00:17:11,000 destroyed the crops, and laid waste to the country. 261 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,760 So, Doctor, you mentioned there was almost 100 slaves on this plantation. 262 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,560 What happened to them? Did they die in the fire? I mean, did they get taken 263 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,380 prisoner? Many would have left with the British Army. Some of those would have 264 00:17:22,380 --> 00:17:25,640 found freedom in Canada and Sierra Leone. Okay. 265 00:17:25,859 --> 00:17:27,079 And many died. 266 00:17:28,620 --> 00:17:30,360 Whatever happened to Louisa Carolina? 267 00:17:30,890 --> 00:17:36,530 Louisa Carolina died in 1823, and her son inherited the property, mostly 268 00:17:36,530 --> 00:17:39,410 destroyed, and he had to sell it off to pay debts. 269 00:17:39,650 --> 00:17:42,790 All that money the Carlton family had was for nothing. 270 00:17:42,990 --> 00:17:44,450 Pretty much disappeared, yeah. 271 00:17:48,010 --> 00:17:52,570 So I'm just hearing, oh no, there was land, land, and land. 272 00:17:53,410 --> 00:17:58,810 I'm seeing some not well -made places. 273 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,740 Like I'm just seeing wood and tiny wooden structures. 274 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:11,760 They're very small. I see like maybe a handful of these wooden 275 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:17,700 structures. Then there's something else. 276 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,140 I don't know what that is. It's a bigger structure. 277 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,740 I mean, it's better than those like shacks. 278 00:18:25,300 --> 00:18:27,140 And then I saw... 279 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,120 Some fire and everybody was scattering. 280 00:18:34,300 --> 00:18:39,300 So I just got a call from a journalist I've worked with before. 281 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:44,280 He says something happened in 1913 that put a target on every black man in 282 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,840 Bluffton. I'm heading back to Michelle and Julio's restaurant to find out 283 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:48,840 exactly what happened. 284 00:18:57,130 --> 00:19:00,310 So, Barry, thanks for meeting with me. I appreciate it. So before we get to what 285 00:19:00,310 --> 00:19:03,890 happened, what can you tell me about this town during that time period? 286 00:19:04,630 --> 00:19:09,890 Bluffton in 1913, Bluffton, South Carolina, was about 50 years out of the 287 00:19:09,890 --> 00:19:13,830 devastation of the Civil War. Okay. The black people who lived here were Gullah 288 00:19:13,830 --> 00:19:15,610 Geechee. They were from West Africa. 289 00:19:15,910 --> 00:19:21,730 They were the descendants of black slaves, and they were farmers, and they 290 00:19:21,730 --> 00:19:22,730 a lot of money doing it. 291 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,120 All right, so this had to piss a lot of people off. Absolutely. 292 00:19:25,380 --> 00:19:27,820 Racial tensions were fairly tough in the area. 293 00:19:28,120 --> 00:19:29,880 Barry, do me a favor and tell me about this unrest. 294 00:19:30,340 --> 00:19:35,040 On June 11, 1913, a white woman claimed that a black man had come into their 295 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,900 home, accosted her, put his hands around her throat. 296 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:42,700 She was able to escape and run to a neighbor's home and gave a description. 297 00:19:43,180 --> 00:19:46,760 What did she describe him as? She described him as a black man, 298 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,440 six feet tall, about 30 years old. 299 00:19:49,930 --> 00:19:53,050 All right, so, I mean, how did everybody react to what happened? 300 00:19:53,430 --> 00:19:57,330 Well, they were up in arms immediately. The white citizens from the area started 301 00:19:57,330 --> 00:20:01,470 rounding up posses, started looking for every black man in the community as a 302 00:20:01,470 --> 00:20:02,470 possible suspect. 303 00:20:02,670 --> 00:20:06,550 All right, so I take it that they're just going around picking up any black 304 00:20:06,550 --> 00:20:09,790 on the street and taking him in. That's right, and that included a black 305 00:20:09,790 --> 00:20:12,050 constable who was here with a detective, E .F. 306 00:20:12,450 --> 00:20:16,110 Hammond, from the state police. They were out looking for these suspects, and 307 00:20:16,110 --> 00:20:18,310 this black constable was... 308 00:20:18,540 --> 00:20:24,020 Basically arrested by some of these posses twice before he said, I'm out of 309 00:20:24,100 --> 00:20:24,799 I'm leaving. 310 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,060 So let me get this straight. There's a black constable working to try to figure 311 00:20:28,060 --> 00:20:29,060 out what the hell is going on. 312 00:20:29,420 --> 00:20:32,260 And even he became a suspect. And he became a suspect. That's right. 313 00:20:33,300 --> 00:20:38,420 Okay. After the black constable left town, Detective Hammond continued 314 00:20:38,420 --> 00:20:39,420 for a suspect. 315 00:20:39,500 --> 00:20:42,320 And he encountered a black man named William Jackson. 316 00:20:42,580 --> 00:20:45,560 Okay. He attempted to take Mr. Jackson into custody. 317 00:20:45,780 --> 00:20:47,280 Mr. Jackson ran away. 318 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,080 and Detective Hammond shot him in the back. 319 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,120 Okay, was this our guy? 320 00:20:52,980 --> 00:20:57,340 Absolutely was not. Not only was he not the right guy, he was 52 years old. 321 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,400 All right, so this guy's at least 20 years older than the suspect. 322 00:21:00,620 --> 00:21:01,419 That's right. 323 00:21:01,420 --> 00:21:02,840 All right, so they killed this guy for nothing. 324 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,500 Right. All right, so whatever happened to Hammond, the guy that shot William 325 00:21:06,500 --> 00:21:10,840 Jackson? His shooting was deemed justified, so nothing happened to him. 326 00:21:11,500 --> 00:21:14,400 All right, so what about this guy that did attack this woman? 327 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,160 Did they ever find him? 328 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:17,400 No. 329 00:21:17,450 --> 00:21:21,690 Do we think it was all that she made it up? It's a distinct possibility. 330 00:21:25,010 --> 00:21:29,130 So there's one male that's joining me. 331 00:21:29,390 --> 00:21:34,910 He's probably in his early 70s. 332 00:21:35,270 --> 00:21:40,970 He's a black male. He's telling me there was something going on. 333 00:21:42,810 --> 00:21:49,650 One night that was really not good. People were freaking out, and, you know, 334 00:21:49,650 --> 00:21:50,650 people were running. 335 00:21:53,490 --> 00:22:00,430 This incident was more around, like, the 1920s, and it killed two 336 00:22:00,430 --> 00:22:01,810 or three people or something. 337 00:22:03,510 --> 00:22:05,450 He is feeling guilty. 338 00:22:05,650 --> 00:22:10,770 He didn't intend for things to go that way. 339 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,700 He showed me he was back here. 340 00:22:16,740 --> 00:22:18,500 He feels he's been seen. 341 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:24,340 Like is he doing things to people to try to get them to leave? 342 00:22:34,060 --> 00:22:37,600 For more information about the show, and if you need us to investigate 343 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:42,140 unexplained activity in your home, please visit TravelChannel .com slash 344 00:22:42,140 --> 00:22:46,100 Dead Files. Click on Help Me Dead Files to submit your story, and we'll help if 345 00:22:46,100 --> 00:22:47,100 we can. 346 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,520 So far, I've got a couple who believes the paranormal is destroying their 347 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,900 marriage and their business on a property that was once a plantation 348 00:23:00,900 --> 00:23:01,900 by British soldiers. 349 00:23:02,360 --> 00:23:03,920 But I want to see if there's anything else. 350 00:23:06,580 --> 00:23:10,240 Searching through the archives, I come across the brutal murder of a local rock 351 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:15,180 star. Turns out this guy's death shocked not only the community here, but music 352 00:23:15,180 --> 00:23:16,180 fans around the world. 353 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:21,200 So I managed to track down the cop who responded to the scene. He promised to 354 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,720 give me a first -person account of what happened. Now, he tells me there are 355 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,900 still parts of this case that haunt him to this day. 356 00:23:33,540 --> 00:23:36,840 Walt, I appreciate you meeting with me and helping me out. So I understand the 357 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,020 victim in this murder case was a local celebrity? 358 00:23:40,360 --> 00:23:43,380 Yes, sir. His name was Anthony Tony Hooks. 359 00:23:43,620 --> 00:23:47,320 He was a musician, and I got a picture of him right there. 360 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,320 This is him? Yes, sir. 361 00:23:49,660 --> 00:23:52,600 I grew up in the 70s. This looks like Sly and the Family Stone. 362 00:23:52,820 --> 00:23:57,780 Is that who he played with? Yes, and George Clinton and the Ohio Players. 363 00:23:58,180 --> 00:23:59,280 This guy played with them? 364 00:23:59,540 --> 00:24:00,900 Yeah, he got around. He was pretty. 365 00:24:01,470 --> 00:24:03,350 Pretty well known. I'd say pretty famous. 366 00:24:04,170 --> 00:24:05,370 Bluffton's a pretty small town. 367 00:24:05,650 --> 00:24:06,650 Did you know Tony? 368 00:24:06,810 --> 00:24:09,810 Tony and I basically both grew up here. 369 00:24:10,390 --> 00:24:11,390 We were friends. 370 00:24:11,570 --> 00:24:13,870 Okay, let's move on to the murder. When did it happen? 371 00:24:14,070 --> 00:24:19,450 Happened in 1988, January 31st. I was working for the Bluffton Police 372 00:24:19,450 --> 00:24:22,190 Department. Okay, so take me through it. What happened? 373 00:24:22,390 --> 00:24:28,050 Okay, it was late night, early morning. I was sitting there with windows rolled 374 00:24:28,050 --> 00:24:29,050 down, beautiful night. 375 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,980 And heard a gunshot. You heard the gunshot? Heard the gunshot. Probably 1 376 00:24:32,980 --> 00:24:36,460 yards from right here when I saw a set of headlights leaving the scene, you 377 00:24:36,460 --> 00:24:37,419 know, the area. 378 00:24:37,420 --> 00:24:39,620 So I immediately turned around on the car. 379 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:45,180 And as we came up to Highway 46, I attempted a traffic stop. 380 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:46,840 The car turned. 381 00:24:47,610 --> 00:24:51,470 Went towards Savannah, Georgia. I immediately fell in behind him, told my 382 00:24:51,470 --> 00:24:55,030 dispatch, you know, basically I'd heard a gunshot and I was trying to stop this 383 00:24:55,030 --> 00:24:57,150 car. Okay, so you're assuming this guy is the shooter. 384 00:24:57,870 --> 00:25:00,430 Yes. You try to pull him over, he takes off, you give chase. 385 00:25:00,670 --> 00:25:06,750 Yep. We continued towards Savannah, so the Savannah PD set up a 386 00:25:06,750 --> 00:25:11,530 barricade. Okay. And when he came through, they got in the car, stopped 387 00:25:11,530 --> 00:25:12,349 him out. 388 00:25:12,350 --> 00:25:14,770 And he was arrested by Savannah, Georgia. 389 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,400 Lawrence went over from South Carolina. 390 00:25:17,740 --> 00:25:21,060 Okay. So where exactly did the murder take place? 391 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,500 The front porch on this house. 392 00:25:23,700 --> 00:25:24,840 This house here? Yes. 393 00:25:25,500 --> 00:25:26,800 Do we know what kind of weapon it was? 394 00:25:27,100 --> 00:25:28,100 A shotgun. 395 00:25:28,660 --> 00:25:29,660 Okay. 396 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,680 I'm seeing the murdered man in the rocking chair again. 397 00:25:37,140 --> 00:25:38,280 Uh -oh, uh -oh. 398 00:25:39,100 --> 00:25:40,920 Somebody's in front of me. 399 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,500 Totally caught off guard, you know what I mean? Was not expecting that at all. 400 00:25:45,940 --> 00:25:46,940 It's dark. 401 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:48,880 And I'm scared. 402 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,560 What the hell was that? Like, I totally, like, felt that. 403 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,680 Any idea when it was? I think this was pretty recent. 404 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,700 I'm thinking, like, I got hit. I got, like, punched in the stomach. 405 00:26:02,380 --> 00:26:06,900 And then I'm feeling very bad. 406 00:26:13,580 --> 00:26:17,000 I think I'm really, really hurt, really bad. 407 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,380 I feel like the person went that way, who did this, it's another male. 408 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,320 This is very bad. 409 00:26:24,700 --> 00:26:26,060 Like, I think I'm dying. 410 00:26:31,060 --> 00:26:34,040 All right, so this is where Tony Hooks lived and where he was murdered. Yes. 411 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,580 So now the guy that killed him, who was he? What the hell was this all about? 412 00:26:37,980 --> 00:26:39,700 The guy's name was Peter Hines. 413 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,440 He was from Hilton Head, and he was a musician over there. 414 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,300 Now, you mentioned on the phone that something about this case haunted you. 415 00:26:47,300 --> 00:26:48,300 was that all about? 416 00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:50,740 Nobody knows why. I never found out why. 417 00:26:51,060 --> 00:26:52,640 We don't have a motive. Nope. 418 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:58,400 Whether it was maybe jealousy or... Never. Never got an answer. All the 419 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,980 investigations just never came up with anything on that. 420 00:27:01,770 --> 00:27:07,370 So did he do any time? He was arrested, was tried, was found not guilty, reason 421 00:27:07,370 --> 00:27:08,370 of insanity. 422 00:27:08,750 --> 00:27:11,230 You kidding me? Tony really never got justice. 423 00:27:12,070 --> 00:27:16,510 Wow. That's so sad to hear. Still think about it. It's got to be an answer 424 00:27:16,510 --> 00:27:19,230 somewhere, and I hope someday I get to find out what. 425 00:27:26,510 --> 00:27:31,490 During my walk, I saw several disturbing things, but two concerned me the most. 426 00:27:31,740 --> 00:27:35,080 First, the group of dead people heading toward the restaurant. 427 00:27:35,460 --> 00:27:38,940 I saw 10 to 15 people. 428 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,240 The majority were men. 429 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,800 And some were like kind of following with purpose towards me. 430 00:27:46,300 --> 00:27:48,820 Next, the murdered man in the rocking chair. 431 00:27:49,020 --> 00:27:55,480 The left side of his face is kind of decomposing. The right side 432 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:56,720 looks burned. 433 00:27:57,260 --> 00:28:00,280 So he had a big, deep... 434 00:28:00,570 --> 00:28:05,070 pot with a long handle and he was banging that. 435 00:28:07,650 --> 00:28:11,110 Just make sure that his right hand looks burned. 436 00:28:15,890 --> 00:28:17,330 Amy, is this what you saw? 437 00:28:19,130 --> 00:28:20,610 Yes, that's what I saw. 438 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:46,360 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, we're ready to reveal 439 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,560 findings to each other and our clients for the first time. 440 00:28:50,780 --> 00:28:52,040 So, guys, this is Amy. 441 00:28:52,460 --> 00:28:56,000 She's going to be doing a reveal in a separate room so she can focus on your 442 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,480 case and the dead without any distractions. 443 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,780 Amy, meet the owners of this restaurant. This is Michelle and Julio. 444 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,860 Now, they are a married couple for now. 445 00:29:05,580 --> 00:29:09,040 Things are so bad that they believe their marriage and even their lives are 446 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,040 danger. 447 00:29:10,190 --> 00:29:13,470 And even though they've poured their hearts into this place, if you can't 448 00:29:13,470 --> 00:29:15,710 them, they're ready to close the place down and walk. 449 00:29:16,330 --> 00:29:19,430 So unless Amy's got some questions for you, we should close about a walk. 450 00:29:25,250 --> 00:29:31,970 Before I even came inside, there were a lot of dead people 451 00:29:31,970 --> 00:29:35,750 coming towards me. I kept hearing land, land, land. 452 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:42,800 Then I saw a few wooden structures, not well built, and 453 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:49,280 another structure that was fairly large, and it was better condition than the 454 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,220 other little wooden shack thing. 455 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,900 Then I was shown a fire. I just literally saw fire. 456 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,480 I was shown people running. 457 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,740 So Amy, you said you kept hearing land and land over and over again. I think I 458 00:30:03,740 --> 00:30:04,740 might know why. 459 00:30:14,930 --> 00:30:15,930 Now, 460 00:30:31,130 --> 00:30:33,950 you mentioned you saw fire, right? Yeah. 461 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:39,780 So in 1779, during the height of the Revolutionary War, the British came 462 00:30:39,780 --> 00:30:44,200 here on their way to Charleston. Everything in the area was looted and 463 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,159 the ground. 464 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,020 The enslaved people ran off, hoping to find their freedom. 465 00:30:49,580 --> 00:30:53,280 So is it possible this could be what you might be running into? Yeah, that's 466 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,940 very possible, yeah. 467 00:30:55,380 --> 00:30:56,900 What do these dead people want? 468 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,240 Most of them want to leave, but they're stuck. 469 00:31:00,940 --> 00:31:04,180 I did have a sketch done of what I saw. 470 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,940 Christ, this looks like something out of a movie. 471 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,060 Oh, God. 472 00:31:19,340 --> 00:31:24,480 The way it feels. I think I imagined, like, it would be something like that. 473 00:31:26,380 --> 00:31:27,380 So, Amy. 474 00:31:27,790 --> 00:31:32,250 What would it be like for people to always be around like this many dead 475 00:31:32,710 --> 00:31:39,150 Consistent exposure to them could make you sick and could drain you pretty 476 00:31:39,150 --> 00:31:43,450 severely. So, Michelle, when we spoke, you told me you're 52, but you feel like 477 00:31:43,450 --> 00:31:44,209 you're 82. 478 00:31:44,210 --> 00:31:45,830 Tell Amy what's going on with you. 479 00:31:46,390 --> 00:31:51,810 When we were getting ready to reopen two years ago, I had a heart attack. 480 00:31:52,010 --> 00:31:53,290 I was only 50. 481 00:31:53,910 --> 00:31:55,290 I then had a stroke. 482 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:03,940 That makes sense because that's a lot of dead energy that could drain you. 483 00:32:08,540 --> 00:32:10,740 Okay, so what else? 484 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:18,860 I saw a lot of shadow figures. Two of them were female 485 00:32:18,860 --> 00:32:24,080 -shaped, and then the rest were smaller, like their children. 486 00:32:24,780 --> 00:32:27,680 So it made me very uneasy and kind of shaky. 487 00:32:28,180 --> 00:32:30,720 And I feel like people would see them. 488 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,900 I would sit at the end of the bar at the end of the night, and you would see 489 00:32:35,900 --> 00:32:37,640 this shadow. I would think it was him. 490 00:32:42,580 --> 00:32:49,500 So are 491 00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:51,960 these the same shadows that are outside, or is it different? 492 00:32:52,270 --> 00:32:56,950 There's so many dead people, so it's hard to say. 493 00:33:00,250 --> 00:33:01,630 So what else? 494 00:33:03,290 --> 00:33:09,010 The next two people I'm going to talk about quickly are two females. One woman 495 00:33:09,010 --> 00:33:13,870 looks like straight out of the 80s, like pageant circuit. 496 00:33:14,130 --> 00:33:19,970 I saw her rapping on the bar, so like making knocking noises of some type. 497 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:27,660 Second female that I encountered, she's from a long time ago, like, you know, 498 00:33:27,660 --> 00:33:33,740 late 1800s. She hangs out in the bathroom, especially the male bathroom. 499 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,640 She likes to make people feel very uncomfortable. 500 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,060 That's her thing. 501 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:45,680 Amy, their employee, Alexandra, she's actually seen both those apparitions. 502 00:33:45,940 --> 00:33:46,940 Oh, okay. 503 00:33:47,550 --> 00:33:52,130 She described the one female as like a showgirl, and the other one she said was 504 00:33:52,130 --> 00:33:54,630 older. So she saw both of them. Okay. 505 00:33:54,970 --> 00:33:59,490 Would you mention the men's rooms? We never talked about it, but have you had 506 00:33:59,490 --> 00:34:01,030 experiences back there? Oh, yeah. 507 00:34:01,330 --> 00:34:02,750 It's definitely palpable. 508 00:34:02,970 --> 00:34:06,890 Like, you know something's there with you. That sound like something this 509 00:34:06,890 --> 00:34:07,890 would do? Yeah, yeah. 510 00:34:08,050 --> 00:34:09,409 She's delightful. 511 00:34:15,170 --> 00:34:16,250 So what else, Amy? 512 00:34:17,900 --> 00:34:24,179 The last person that I'm going to talk about, he is definitely an issue. 513 00:34:24,420 --> 00:34:31,280 When I first encountered him, he showed me him sitting in an old 514 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,420 wooden rocking chair. 515 00:34:32,699 --> 00:34:39,139 I mean, probably from the late 70s, early 80s. I got that he was murdered. 516 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,940 It was extremely unexpected. 517 00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:46,040 I think I'm really, really hurt really bad. 518 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,380 I feel like the person went that way, who did this, it's another male. 519 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,080 This is very bad. Like, I think I'm dying. 520 00:34:56,340 --> 00:35:00,160 Now, Bluffton's a small town, right? Most years, they don't even have 521 00:35:00,380 --> 00:35:04,980 But what you are describing to me sounds a lot like a homicide I came across in 522 00:35:04,980 --> 00:35:09,460 research. Anthony Tony Hooks was a famous guitar player from Bluffton. 523 00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:13,160 This is the guy right here on the bottom. 524 00:35:15,259 --> 00:35:19,300 Now, he played with George Clinton, the Ohio Players, Sly and the Family Stone. 525 00:35:19,380 --> 00:35:21,640 I knew who this guy was. I never knew he got murdered. 526 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:27,180 On January 31, 1988, Hooks was in his little house right near here. So about 527 00:35:27,180 --> 00:35:30,640 o 'clock at night, a local musician named Peter Hines showed up at his door. 528 00:35:30,780 --> 00:35:34,840 Now, Hooks answered, and Hines just shot him in the chest with a shotgun. 529 00:35:35,820 --> 00:35:41,200 Hines took off and was later arrested and tried, but he was found not guilty 530 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,200 reason of insanity. 531 00:35:42,580 --> 00:35:44,080 He didn't serve a day in jail. 532 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,810 What? So I talked to the retired cop who actually helped arrest him that night. 533 00:35:48,930 --> 00:35:52,330 He says the murder still haunts him to this day because nobody to this day 534 00:35:52,330 --> 00:35:53,490 has a clue why he did it. 535 00:35:53,710 --> 00:35:54,770 What? Yeah. 536 00:35:54,990 --> 00:35:57,530 Amy, do you think Hooks could be the dead guy who's here? 537 00:35:57,850 --> 00:35:58,850 Yeah, it could be. 538 00:35:59,910 --> 00:36:02,310 You said you were very concerned about this guy. How come? 539 00:36:02,650 --> 00:36:07,750 He's pretty angry. He does not want anyone here. And I saw him, like, in the 540 00:36:07,750 --> 00:36:08,750 kitchen area. 541 00:36:09,910 --> 00:36:12,310 He's making extremely loud noises. 542 00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:17,130 You know, to me, it almost sounds like if you took the pots and the pans and 543 00:36:17,130 --> 00:36:20,210 you're banging them together, you know, like bang, bang, bang, clatter, clatter, 544 00:36:20,330 --> 00:36:22,470 clatter, clatter, clatter. So that's his thing. 545 00:36:23,430 --> 00:36:26,510 And that I had a sketch of what I saw. 546 00:36:35,510 --> 00:36:36,510 Wow. 547 00:36:39,490 --> 00:36:41,830 I feel like somebody was there. 548 00:36:42,490 --> 00:36:48,430 I just didn't expect that it was there, like, all the time, and that I actually 549 00:36:48,430 --> 00:36:50,990 was sharing the space with him. 550 00:36:51,310 --> 00:36:54,270 You mentioned to me about hearing the plates and stuff. 551 00:36:54,530 --> 00:36:59,970 A lot of times I hear the plates moving, the doors opening and closing. 552 00:37:00,570 --> 00:37:02,190 Tell her about your stuff going missing. 553 00:37:02,590 --> 00:37:08,090 Sometimes my knife disappears, and then I look for it, like, for an hour, and 554 00:37:08,090 --> 00:37:09,910 finally when I give up. 555 00:37:10,300 --> 00:37:12,540 You know, like looking for it, it just appears. 556 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:18,880 It makes me feel like really uncomfortable and, you know, like it 557 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,380 really the creeps. 558 00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:26,240 So Amy, this guy is so physical. I'm wondering if he might be responsible for 559 00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:28,380 tripping employees in the hallway by the kitchen. 560 00:37:28,940 --> 00:37:34,920 Every single employee that we've had has tripped at least 561 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,820 once where they've gone down on the ground. 562 00:37:39,770 --> 00:37:40,870 Not good at all. 563 00:37:41,390 --> 00:37:43,970 Remember when I said these guys' marriage is in trouble? 564 00:37:44,410 --> 00:37:48,910 Michelle believes Julio has changed. He's become angry and irritated all the 565 00:37:48,910 --> 00:37:52,250 time, right? So I'm wondering if that could be the influence of this dead guy. 566 00:37:52,490 --> 00:37:54,430 Do me a favor. Tell Amy how you've changed. 567 00:37:54,970 --> 00:37:58,470 Since we got here, my personality started to change. 568 00:37:58,830 --> 00:38:03,330 I'm turning, like, really antisocial, either angry or depressed. 569 00:38:04,230 --> 00:38:08,450 He was angry all the time, and he would have these outbursts, and he would yell, 570 00:38:08,510 --> 00:38:11,730 and he would say really, you know, not nice things. 571 00:38:12,570 --> 00:38:19,190 It's highly likely that you and this dead guy are meshing with one another, 572 00:38:19,190 --> 00:38:21,530 you're taking on all of his anger. 573 00:38:24,070 --> 00:38:25,150 It makes sense. 574 00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:28,370 We have no reason to fight. 575 00:38:29,330 --> 00:38:32,690 I just want to walk away and just done. 576 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,138 Look, Bart. 577 00:38:34,140 --> 00:38:36,420 It's not a good situation. 578 00:38:54,460 --> 00:38:59,380 So, guys, the South has a lot of history, and unfortunately, it seems 579 00:38:59,380 --> 00:39:00,580 guys are still dealing with it. 580 00:39:01,130 --> 00:39:04,970 But now let's answer the big question. Can you keep this restaurant open 581 00:39:05,550 --> 00:39:07,730 And can you guys get back to a happy marriage? 582 00:39:08,790 --> 00:39:11,030 For that question, I'm going to turn it over to Amy. 583 00:39:13,710 --> 00:39:15,690 The first thing that I would recommend, 584 00:39:16,530 --> 00:39:18,890 a medium should come to the restaurant. 585 00:39:19,570 --> 00:39:26,470 This medium should be an attractive female who is 586 00:39:26,470 --> 00:39:29,930 also very firm in their approach. 587 00:39:31,130 --> 00:39:38,050 dead male will respond more favorably if this is the type of individual 588 00:39:38,050 --> 00:39:39,870 that approaches him. 589 00:39:40,130 --> 00:39:42,890 Is she going to move this person on? Yes. 590 00:39:43,750 --> 00:39:50,730 Now, while this is taking place, Julio should be at the office or 591 00:39:50,730 --> 00:39:53,270 location of a Reiki practitioner. 592 00:39:53,690 --> 00:39:59,670 Now, what this person will be doing is cutting all cords and ties. 593 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,280 with this dead male. 594 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:10,020 The second day, a few psychics and mediums should come and 595 00:40:10,020 --> 00:40:15,320 move on all the dead who want to move on. 596 00:40:16,060 --> 00:40:21,700 The third day, have the Reiki master come to the restaurant. 597 00:40:22,060 --> 00:40:28,520 Now, what she will do is cleanse the entire restaurant and then placing up 598 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:29,600 protective barriers. 599 00:40:30,230 --> 00:40:34,710 And that will keep out all the rest of these dead people. 600 00:40:38,610 --> 00:40:39,610 You look stunned. 601 00:40:39,830 --> 00:40:41,850 It's just, it's a lot to process. 602 00:40:42,110 --> 00:40:43,550 And it's just overwhelming. 603 00:40:44,070 --> 00:40:46,330 The question I always ask is, are you going to take Amy's advice? 604 00:40:48,110 --> 00:40:49,290 Absolutely. Yeah. 605 00:40:49,730 --> 00:40:50,730 Yeah. 606 00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:55,550 It feels like for the first time in a long time that, you know, there's hope. 607 00:40:56,350 --> 00:40:58,630 Don't lie to me. I wouldn't. Okay. 608 00:40:59,610 --> 00:41:03,930 I'm really happy with everything that we found out today. 609 00:41:04,650 --> 00:41:08,250 And we definitely want to do everything that Amy did. 610 00:41:08,490 --> 00:41:10,930 Okay. She's already snuggling up on you. 611 00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:12,530 He's like, oh, no. 612 00:41:14,830 --> 00:41:17,970 First time I've seen you two smile since I got here. 613 00:41:18,910 --> 00:41:20,830 I love you. There you go. 614 00:41:22,130 --> 00:41:23,830 See, now that makes me feel better. 615 00:41:27,030 --> 00:41:28,170 I really hope. 616 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:33,960 Michelle and Julio contact a medium to remove the murdered man, as well as all 617 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,640 of the other dead who are stuck inside their restaurant. 618 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:42,320 I believe once they're cleared out and Julio works with the Reiki master, their 619 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,220 relationship and their business will grow stronger than it ever was before.