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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:28,579 --> 00:00:30,247 Oh, come on. 2 00:01:28,392 --> 00:01:30,112 What is it? 3 00:01:30,112 --> 00:01:31,912 It's not him. 4 00:01:32,912 --> 00:01:35,632 I didn't want to text or phone to tell you but... 5 00:01:35,632 --> 00:01:38,112 I don't believe you. On my kids. 6 00:01:38,112 --> 00:01:39,672 It's true. 7 00:01:39,672 --> 00:01:41,112 No. 8 00:01:42,112 --> 00:01:45,872 You've had it confirmed it's Myers and now you're scared. 9 00:01:45,872 --> 00:01:47,832 You have to listen to me. 10 00:01:47,832 --> 00:01:51,392 Craig Myers is not Eddie J Turner. 11 00:01:52,392 --> 00:01:54,232 You're lying. 12 00:01:54,232 --> 00:01:56,072 I saw him, Anna. 13 00:01:56,072 --> 00:01:59,392 Saw who? Do you not understand what I'm telling you? 14 00:01:59,392 --> 00:02:03,632 Who did you see? We have ruined an innocent man's life! 15 00:02:03,632 --> 00:02:05,392 Who, Mo? 16 00:02:09,112 --> 00:02:10,752 I won't tell you. 17 00:02:10,752 --> 00:02:12,552 Mo! No. 18 00:02:12,552 --> 00:02:15,912 You have to tell me, for Liam's sake. 19 00:02:15,912 --> 00:02:19,112 This isn't about Liam, 20 00:02:19,112 --> 00:02:20,872 not any more. 21 00:02:21,872 --> 00:02:24,112 It's over, Anna. 22 00:02:25,112 --> 00:02:27,632 We ruined his life. 23 00:03:25,392 --> 00:03:29,632 Members of the jury, will your spokesperson please rise? 24 00:03:30,632 --> 00:03:34,032 Have you reached a verdict in respect of the accused, 25 00:03:34,032 --> 00:03:35,872 Anna Louise Dean? 26 00:03:35,872 --> 00:03:37,112 Yes. 27 00:03:37,112 --> 00:03:38,872 What is your verdict? 28 00:03:42,632 --> 00:03:44,312 Guilty. 29 00:03:45,872 --> 00:03:49,192 Are there any deletions or amendments to the charge? 30 00:03:49,192 --> 00:03:51,232 Deletion of the word murder, 31 00:03:51,232 --> 00:03:55,392 amended to assault to danger of life. 32 00:04:03,112 --> 00:04:05,392 My Lady, pending preparation of reports, 33 00:04:05,392 --> 00:04:07,392 I make an application for bail. 34 00:04:07,392 --> 00:04:11,392 Mrs Dean is part of a strong family unit, has no previous convictions 35 00:04:11,392 --> 00:04:15,392 and has adhered to the conditions of bail set at the petition hearing. 36 00:04:16,392 --> 00:04:18,632 I will continue to grant bail, 37 00:04:18,632 --> 00:04:21,392 subject to the same special conditions. 38 00:04:29,872 --> 00:04:33,712 This is Christian. Leave me a message and I'll get back to you. 39 00:04:33,712 --> 00:04:35,392 It's not him. 40 00:04:36,392 --> 00:04:39,112 Christian, it's not Craig Myers. 41 00:04:39,112 --> 00:04:41,872 The social worker meets Turner in the cafe 42 00:04:41,872 --> 00:04:44,632 but you're not looking for Craig Myers. 43 00:04:52,872 --> 00:04:54,392 OK, so... 44 00:04:55,392 --> 00:04:58,912 ..in short, they believed Anna posted the message 45 00:04:58,912 --> 00:05:02,392 and wanted Craig Myers assaulted but not that she wanted him dead. 46 00:05:03,392 --> 00:05:06,112 It's not great but it could have been a lot worse. 47 00:05:09,112 --> 00:05:12,192 So what now? Sentencing in a few weeks' time. 48 00:05:19,392 --> 00:05:20,872 I'm sorry. 49 00:05:22,112 --> 00:05:23,592 I'm so sorry. 50 00:05:23,592 --> 00:05:24,872 Oh, Mum. 51 00:06:37,112 --> 00:06:38,872 I was wrong. 52 00:06:38,872 --> 00:06:40,872 About what? 53 00:06:40,872 --> 00:06:42,992 Everything. 54 00:06:42,992 --> 00:06:44,872 Craig Myers. 55 00:06:45,872 --> 00:06:47,472 All of it. 56 00:06:49,872 --> 00:06:52,712 You were never convinced but I wouldn't listen... 57 00:06:53,712 --> 00:06:55,632 ..and now it's too late. 58 00:06:55,632 --> 00:07:00,552 Anna, are you genuinely saying you may have made a mistake? 59 00:07:02,872 --> 00:07:06,312 Does that mean you might be willing to apologise to Mr Myers? 60 00:07:07,312 --> 00:07:10,032 What does it matter? It may matter a lot. 61 00:07:10,032 --> 00:07:12,872 What are you thinking? Restorative justice. 62 00:07:12,872 --> 00:07:15,872 It's a process in which the guilty party 63 00:07:15,872 --> 00:07:17,872 meets with the victim of a crime 64 00:07:17,872 --> 00:07:21,392 and takes part in a mediated discussion about the impact of it. 65 00:07:21,392 --> 00:07:25,112 An apology isn't a strict prerequisite of the process, 66 00:07:25,112 --> 00:07:28,112 but for the purposes of the court, if it goes well, 67 00:07:28,112 --> 00:07:32,312 it may just persuade the judge to go for a community-based disposal. 68 00:07:32,312 --> 00:07:34,712 So you mean this could keep her out of prison? 69 00:07:34,712 --> 00:07:36,432 It's worth a try, isn't it? 70 00:07:36,432 --> 00:07:39,552 But Anna would have to completely accept the roles assigned 71 00:07:39,552 --> 00:07:43,112 by the court, namely that she is the criminal and he's the victim. 72 00:07:53,392 --> 00:07:54,872 Craig? 73 00:07:54,872 --> 00:07:58,112 At last! Where have you been? They've delivered the verdict. 74 00:07:58,112 --> 00:07:59,632 What happened? 75 00:08:00,632 --> 00:08:02,632 Guilty. She's guilty. 76 00:08:03,632 --> 00:08:05,472 We won, Craig. 77 00:08:05,472 --> 00:08:07,352 You won. 78 00:08:07,352 --> 00:08:08,792 Thanks. 79 00:08:10,632 --> 00:08:12,632 Can you talk to someone for me? 80 00:08:13,632 --> 00:08:15,112 About what? 81 00:08:46,872 --> 00:08:48,392 Hello? 82 00:08:52,392 --> 00:08:55,792 They found me guilty of a lesser charge 83 00:08:55,792 --> 00:08:57,392 but guilty. 84 00:08:57,392 --> 00:08:58,872 Thanks. 85 00:08:58,872 --> 00:09:01,872 She's here now, Danny. I'll pass you over. 86 00:09:03,752 --> 00:09:04,992 Ben? 87 00:09:04,992 --> 00:09:07,032 Ben's at school. 88 00:09:07,032 --> 00:09:08,592 Where are you? 89 00:09:12,232 --> 00:09:13,872 Louise?! 90 00:09:16,392 --> 00:09:19,032 What's going on with Lou and Danny? 91 00:09:22,392 --> 00:09:25,552 Was that him on the phone? What's happened? 92 00:09:25,552 --> 00:09:30,632 She's been trying to get hold of him all night. Lenny, what's going on? 93 00:09:32,392 --> 00:09:34,592 It was Danny who found Liam's body. 94 00:09:36,392 --> 00:09:38,112 No, it wasn't! 95 00:09:38,112 --> 00:09:40,112 It couldn't have been... 96 00:09:43,632 --> 00:09:45,152 Danny? 97 00:09:45,152 --> 00:09:46,992 Gerry Tythe told us. 98 00:09:46,992 --> 00:09:50,752 What? I'm so sorry I didn't tell you. He's got Ben. 99 00:09:51,752 --> 00:09:53,712 Danny's got Ben! 100 00:09:54,712 --> 00:09:56,392 Phone the school. 101 00:10:01,592 --> 00:10:03,792 You heard the verdict, boss? 102 00:10:03,792 --> 00:10:07,192 Did you go and see a William Napier in custody at Edinburgh? 103 00:10:11,112 --> 00:10:13,872 He attacked Craig Myers. Told you that, did he? 104 00:10:13,872 --> 00:10:16,152 No, because Anna Dean has a hold over him, 105 00:10:16,152 --> 00:10:19,072 but I'm going to talk to DS Harvey. No. No, you're not. 106 00:10:19,072 --> 00:10:22,712 Napier has made a complaint to his solicitor 107 00:10:22,712 --> 00:10:25,872 despite your warnings or threats. 108 00:10:25,872 --> 00:10:28,872 Boss... Not only did you ignore a direct order from me... 109 00:10:28,872 --> 00:10:32,112 Look, if we can get an admission before Anna Dean is sentenced... 110 00:10:32,112 --> 00:10:34,952 ..you interviewed a potential suspect alone and unrecorded. 111 00:10:34,952 --> 00:10:37,872 Do you really think we'd get a conviction after that? 112 00:10:39,592 --> 00:10:42,112 Well, I'm surprised you're not congratulating me. 113 00:10:42,112 --> 00:10:44,712 It means all this will go away a lot quicker, doesn't it? 114 00:10:44,712 --> 00:10:46,712 I'm suspending you from duty as of now. 115 00:10:50,392 --> 00:10:52,272 She's laughing at us, you know that? 116 00:10:52,272 --> 00:10:55,632 She's sitting there with Napier right now having a good old chuckle. 117 00:10:55,632 --> 00:10:59,112 Napier isn't chuckling with anyone. He tried to kill himself last night. 118 00:11:00,112 --> 00:11:02,112 I need your warrant card. 119 00:11:18,632 --> 00:11:20,032 Ben! 120 00:11:20,032 --> 00:11:21,632 Come here! 121 00:11:22,632 --> 00:11:23,872 Why? 122 00:11:24,872 --> 00:11:26,712 Just do as you're told, OK? 123 00:11:27,712 --> 00:11:29,872 No, no, no, you stay where you are. 124 00:11:32,392 --> 00:11:34,272 He never wanted to lie. 125 00:11:35,272 --> 00:11:37,032 What have you told him? 126 00:11:39,032 --> 00:11:41,712 The truth. And what's that? 127 00:11:43,872 --> 00:11:45,392 Why, Danny? 128 00:11:47,872 --> 00:11:49,632 The night we met... 129 00:11:50,872 --> 00:11:54,032 ..I didn't know how to talk to you, and then... 130 00:11:55,032 --> 00:11:57,832 ..you mentioned Liam, like, straight away. Why?! 131 00:12:00,392 --> 00:12:02,112 All those years... 132 00:12:03,392 --> 00:12:05,952 ..I didn't know what to do with any of it. 133 00:12:05,952 --> 00:12:09,032 I couldn't let go of it. I couldn't talk about it either. 134 00:12:11,112 --> 00:12:12,872 Then, all of a sudden... 135 00:12:13,872 --> 00:12:15,392 ..you made it... 136 00:12:16,392 --> 00:12:17,872 ..real. 137 00:12:17,872 --> 00:12:20,392 You and then Anna, you made it... 138 00:12:21,632 --> 00:12:23,032 ..normal. 139 00:12:23,032 --> 00:12:25,192 You think what you've done is normal? 140 00:12:26,192 --> 00:12:29,352 You used me. I couldn't tell you straight off, could I? 141 00:12:30,352 --> 00:12:32,392 Ben, can you please just come here? 142 00:12:32,392 --> 00:12:35,392 He wanted to come with me, I said no. Tell Anna that. 143 00:12:35,392 --> 00:12:39,872 No, no. Don't you ever contact me or my family ever again. 144 00:12:46,632 --> 00:12:48,112 Go on, pal. 145 00:12:50,032 --> 00:12:51,392 Go on. 146 00:13:00,392 --> 00:13:01,872 And remember... 147 00:13:02,832 --> 00:13:04,072 ..OK? 148 00:13:04,072 --> 00:13:05,872 It's not my fault. 149 00:13:13,872 --> 00:13:17,632 Will you tell her that? That he wanted to come with me? 150 00:13:36,112 --> 00:13:37,632 Oh! 151 00:14:22,632 --> 00:14:24,392 I don't understand this. 152 00:14:26,032 --> 00:14:27,552 Why should he? 153 00:14:28,552 --> 00:14:30,632 That's a good question. I know. 154 00:14:31,632 --> 00:14:33,312 But what's the answer? 155 00:14:36,872 --> 00:14:38,632 She's ruined his life. 156 00:14:38,632 --> 00:14:41,392 You can refuse the meeting, Craig. 157 00:14:41,392 --> 00:14:43,472 There's no obligation. 158 00:14:44,472 --> 00:14:46,592 It's in her interests, though, isn't it? 159 00:14:46,592 --> 00:14:48,112 Not his. 160 00:14:48,112 --> 00:14:50,632 Actually, this process is all about the victim. 161 00:14:51,632 --> 00:14:54,112 The questions we ask after a crime - 162 00:14:54,112 --> 00:14:57,392 what laws have been broken, who broke them, 163 00:14:57,392 --> 00:15:00,632 what do they deserve as punishment - are about the offender, 164 00:15:00,632 --> 00:15:03,112 whereas restorative justice asks, 165 00:15:03,112 --> 00:15:04,872 who's been hurt? 166 00:15:04,872 --> 00:15:06,712 What do they need? 167 00:15:06,712 --> 00:15:09,632 And whose obligation is it to repair that damage? 168 00:15:10,632 --> 00:15:13,872 I think it's right to focus on your needs, Craig. 169 00:15:15,392 --> 00:15:18,392 This is about what you need to move forward now. 170 00:15:18,392 --> 00:15:19,872 That's all. 171 00:15:59,112 --> 00:16:01,472 I'd have come sooner if I'd known. 172 00:16:02,472 --> 00:16:04,872 But the surgery only called me today. 173 00:16:07,112 --> 00:16:11,232 Carol said you had some interesting ideas for redecorating the place. 174 00:16:18,112 --> 00:16:20,072 I'm sorry, Anna. 175 00:16:20,072 --> 00:16:22,112 I've told you before, 176 00:16:22,112 --> 00:16:24,312 you don't have to apologise to me. 177 00:16:24,312 --> 00:16:25,872 You trusted me... 178 00:16:26,872 --> 00:16:29,112 ..and I got you in trouble. 179 00:16:37,112 --> 00:16:39,952 William, tell me you didn't. 180 00:16:40,912 --> 00:16:42,392 Not you. 181 00:16:44,872 --> 00:16:47,032 I didn't mean to get you in trouble. 182 00:16:48,712 --> 00:16:51,112 Is that why you did this to yourself? 183 00:16:51,112 --> 00:16:53,392 He doesn't deserve to be free. 184 00:16:55,632 --> 00:16:57,352 I want him to die. 185 00:16:57,352 --> 00:17:00,752 I want all the sick bastards to die. 186 00:17:05,112 --> 00:17:07,272 This is my fault. 187 00:17:07,272 --> 00:17:09,632 What I did was wrong. 188 00:17:10,632 --> 00:17:12,632 I'm going to tell them it was me. 189 00:17:14,392 --> 00:17:16,392 I'm going to confess. 190 00:17:19,512 --> 00:17:21,392 He says I am a victim... 191 00:17:22,392 --> 00:17:24,032 ..but I'm not. 192 00:17:24,032 --> 00:17:25,552 No. 193 00:18:22,632 --> 00:18:24,032 Taxi's here. 194 00:18:24,032 --> 00:18:26,792 Are you sure you don't want me to drive you? 195 00:18:26,792 --> 00:18:29,112 I'll call you straight after. 196 00:18:29,112 --> 00:18:31,472 We're all proud of you, you know. 197 00:19:14,392 --> 00:19:16,632 Welcome. How was the journey? 198 00:19:20,032 --> 00:19:21,872 He's not here yet. 199 00:19:24,632 --> 00:19:26,192 It's important, 200 00:19:26,192 --> 00:19:27,792 the circle, 201 00:19:27,792 --> 00:19:29,672 because we're all connected. 202 00:19:29,672 --> 00:19:32,632 What you do affects me and vice versa. 203 00:19:44,392 --> 00:19:46,072 Welcome. 204 00:20:01,272 --> 00:20:03,392 Thank you both for coming. 205 00:20:04,392 --> 00:20:05,872 I'm Simone. 206 00:20:05,872 --> 00:20:07,832 Craig, this is Anna. 207 00:20:07,832 --> 00:20:09,512 Anna, this is Craig. 208 00:20:10,872 --> 00:20:12,872 You're both here voluntarily 209 00:20:12,872 --> 00:20:15,832 to talk about the offence Anna was recently convicted of. 210 00:20:15,832 --> 00:20:17,872 You'll both get a chance to speak 211 00:20:17,872 --> 00:20:21,912 but I'd ask you to be respectful and not to interrupt. 212 00:20:22,912 --> 00:20:25,952 Mobile phones off or on silent, please. 213 00:20:27,112 --> 00:20:30,392 Obviously, I'll be writing a report the judge will see, 214 00:20:30,392 --> 00:20:33,392 but can we agree that anything said in this room 215 00:20:33,392 --> 00:20:36,992 will remain private and confidential? 216 00:20:38,872 --> 00:20:40,112 OK. 217 00:20:41,112 --> 00:20:45,032 Anna, can I ask you to go back to last October 218 00:20:45,032 --> 00:20:49,032 and talk about your state of mind leading up to the offence? 219 00:20:50,392 --> 00:20:53,872 It was the same as it's been since as long as I can remember. 220 00:20:55,392 --> 00:20:57,632 How much I miss my son. 221 00:20:58,632 --> 00:21:01,472 And that I can't rest until the identity of the man 222 00:21:01,472 --> 00:21:03,392 who killed him is made public. 223 00:21:06,392 --> 00:21:08,632 A few weeks before Halloween... 224 00:21:09,632 --> 00:21:12,632 ..I received information that Eddie J Turner 225 00:21:12,632 --> 00:21:16,872 was living in Port Glasgow under the name Craig Myers. 226 00:21:16,872 --> 00:21:19,392 I looked his address up online... 227 00:21:20,392 --> 00:21:23,712 ..and I saw two schools within a mile of his house. 228 00:21:25,872 --> 00:21:27,632 I felt sick. 229 00:21:29,112 --> 00:21:31,472 I needed to warn people. 230 00:21:32,472 --> 00:21:34,512 So I bought a pay-as-you-go phone... 231 00:21:35,512 --> 00:21:38,392 ..set up an account using false details 232 00:21:38,392 --> 00:21:42,632 and I posted his picture online with his name and address. 233 00:21:44,872 --> 00:21:47,912 I'm not saying I didn't know there would be consequences. 234 00:21:47,912 --> 00:21:49,632 For Craig, you mean? 235 00:21:51,392 --> 00:21:52,992 For everyone. 236 00:21:52,992 --> 00:21:56,232 And knowing there would be consequences, can you remember 237 00:21:56,232 --> 00:22:00,632 how it felt pressing that button and making the accusation public? 238 00:22:02,112 --> 00:22:03,752 It felt good... 239 00:22:04,872 --> 00:22:06,552 ..at the time. 240 00:22:07,552 --> 00:22:09,952 Why do you think that was, Anna? 241 00:22:09,952 --> 00:22:13,392 I think it was because I was doing something. 242 00:22:15,392 --> 00:22:18,872 And even if I got caught, it was still better than being so... 243 00:22:23,112 --> 00:22:25,112 ..helpless, I suppose. 244 00:22:26,112 --> 00:22:28,352 Do you remember any other feelings? 245 00:22:29,632 --> 00:22:31,192 You mean guilt? 246 00:22:32,192 --> 00:22:33,872 If you felt any. 247 00:22:38,872 --> 00:22:43,632 The only guilt I felt at the time was about lying to my family. 248 00:22:46,032 --> 00:22:47,632 I regret that. 249 00:22:50,112 --> 00:22:52,872 But the anger was bigger than the guilt. 250 00:22:53,872 --> 00:22:56,752 It always is. It's bigger than anything. 251 00:22:56,752 --> 00:22:58,832 Are you angry now? 252 00:22:58,832 --> 00:23:00,872 I'm always angry. 253 00:23:00,872 --> 00:23:02,792 It never goes away. 254 00:23:02,792 --> 00:23:04,392 It's hate. 255 00:23:04,392 --> 00:23:06,112 I hate him. 256 00:23:06,112 --> 00:23:07,872 You mean Eddie J Turner? 257 00:23:08,872 --> 00:23:11,552 Is it him you hate or what he did? 258 00:23:12,552 --> 00:23:14,952 I don't believe you can separate them. 259 00:23:16,632 --> 00:23:18,792 And I know that sometimes 260 00:23:18,792 --> 00:23:21,632 the hate can affect my judgments... 261 00:23:23,392 --> 00:23:25,592 ..but it's who I am now. 262 00:23:26,872 --> 00:23:29,392 I was never the same person after Liam died. 263 00:23:31,112 --> 00:23:33,672 I started to see the bad in people... 264 00:23:34,672 --> 00:23:36,392 ..before the good. 265 00:23:39,632 --> 00:23:41,632 And it made me harder. 266 00:23:46,632 --> 00:23:50,112 None of this is any excuse for what I've done to you. 267 00:23:51,872 --> 00:23:54,392 I thought he was you but I was wrong... 268 00:23:55,392 --> 00:23:58,392 ..and I'm sorry. I don't want your apology. 269 00:23:59,392 --> 00:24:02,392 Anna, you said you accept you were wrong 270 00:24:02,392 --> 00:24:05,392 for posting the name of the person you believed... No. 271 00:24:05,392 --> 00:24:07,872 That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying... 272 00:24:08,872 --> 00:24:12,792 ..I'm saying I was wrong to accuse him. 273 00:24:13,792 --> 00:24:16,112 So if I was him, you wouldn't be sorry? 274 00:24:19,392 --> 00:24:20,952 No. 275 00:24:20,952 --> 00:24:23,032 I wouldn't be sorry. 276 00:24:24,032 --> 00:24:27,872 I can't apologise for trying to get justice for my son. 277 00:24:27,872 --> 00:24:29,632 Not to anyone. 278 00:24:29,632 --> 00:24:32,392 And what exactly did you hope to achieve, Anna, 279 00:24:32,392 --> 00:24:34,152 by doing what you did? 280 00:24:35,632 --> 00:24:37,392 I thought, naively... 281 00:24:38,392 --> 00:24:40,872 ..that if I made him stand up in court... 282 00:24:42,232 --> 00:24:44,392 ..it would all come out. 283 00:24:44,392 --> 00:24:46,392 The mask would slip. 284 00:24:47,392 --> 00:24:50,432 He'd have to face what he did. Face me. 285 00:24:53,392 --> 00:24:55,872 And I would find out why. 286 00:24:58,392 --> 00:25:01,392 The "Why?" question is a huge one for anybody 287 00:25:01,392 --> 00:25:04,392 who's been affected by crime, isn't it, Craig? 288 00:25:05,632 --> 00:25:08,872 Has what Anna's shared so far gone any way 289 00:25:08,872 --> 00:25:10,872 to answering the "Why?" for you? 290 00:25:10,872 --> 00:25:13,392 She still hasn't said where my name came from. 291 00:25:13,392 --> 00:25:15,712 I'm sorry, I can't tell anyone that. 292 00:25:15,712 --> 00:25:18,632 Or whether she sent that guy to my house. No. 293 00:25:19,632 --> 00:25:21,992 I didn't. Do you know who he was? 294 00:25:23,392 --> 00:25:25,112 All I can say 295 00:25:25,112 --> 00:25:28,712 is I truly wish it hadn't happened. 296 00:25:29,712 --> 00:25:33,392 Craig, when you woke in hospital and found out you'd been attacked 297 00:25:33,392 --> 00:25:35,672 as a result of this accusation, 298 00:25:35,672 --> 00:25:37,792 how did you feel? 299 00:25:39,392 --> 00:25:41,392 I know about anger. 300 00:25:42,392 --> 00:25:44,272 She's not the only one. 301 00:25:45,272 --> 00:25:46,872 I felt guilty. 302 00:25:46,872 --> 00:25:48,392 In the hospital? 303 00:25:48,392 --> 00:25:50,112 Guilty about what? 304 00:25:51,112 --> 00:25:53,872 That my daughter had to see me like that. 305 00:25:54,872 --> 00:25:57,992 Lying there, bleeding all over the carpet. 306 00:25:58,992 --> 00:26:01,112 That was her home. 307 00:26:01,112 --> 00:26:03,552 The one place she should feel safe. 308 00:26:04,552 --> 00:26:06,632 She thought I was dead. 309 00:26:07,872 --> 00:26:11,872 Six years old and she's defending me to the other kids at school. 310 00:26:13,392 --> 00:26:15,872 It's meant to be me protecting her. 311 00:26:16,872 --> 00:26:18,872 And you feel guilty about that? 312 00:26:19,872 --> 00:26:22,192 And that it was a relief, 313 00:26:22,192 --> 00:26:24,112 in a way, 314 00:26:24,112 --> 00:26:25,872 when they left. 315 00:26:28,872 --> 00:26:31,392 Because at least when they're nowhere near me, 316 00:26:31,392 --> 00:26:33,712 I don't have to worry about them so much. 317 00:26:41,872 --> 00:26:46,112 I'd be lying if I said I was sorry for trying to find Turner... 318 00:26:47,632 --> 00:26:49,472 ..but the last thing I wanted 319 00:26:49,472 --> 00:26:51,872 was for more innocent people to get hurt. 320 00:26:52,872 --> 00:26:54,872 I'm so sorry, Craig. 321 00:26:54,872 --> 00:26:57,352 I don't want your apology. I said that! 322 00:26:57,352 --> 00:26:59,952 You obviously find it hard to hear. 323 00:27:00,952 --> 00:27:02,592 I think I need a break. 324 00:27:02,592 --> 00:27:04,392 Will you look at me? 325 00:27:05,392 --> 00:27:06,872 Please. 326 00:27:06,872 --> 00:27:10,832 I know it's not enough but I need you to know. 327 00:27:10,832 --> 00:27:12,072 Don't! 328 00:27:12,072 --> 00:27:13,632 Don't what, Craig? 329 00:27:13,632 --> 00:27:15,232 I need a break! 330 00:27:15,232 --> 00:27:17,672 I'm so sorry for what I've done to you. 331 00:27:17,672 --> 00:27:19,392 Don't! Craig. 332 00:27:19,392 --> 00:27:21,112 Please... 333 00:27:21,112 --> 00:27:23,752 Craig... Don't. Will you look at me, please? 334 00:27:23,752 --> 00:27:26,632 Stop! OK. I'm so sorry, Craig. 335 00:27:26,632 --> 00:27:29,032 Please... I'm not Craig! 336 00:27:31,112 --> 00:27:33,312 I'm Eddie J Turner! 337 00:27:36,632 --> 00:27:38,592 That's why I'm here. 338 00:27:39,592 --> 00:27:41,872 Because there's no getting away from it. 339 00:27:41,872 --> 00:27:43,392 I'm him, he's me. 340 00:27:43,392 --> 00:27:44,832 He still is. 341 00:27:52,392 --> 00:27:54,032 Anna. 342 00:28:05,672 --> 00:28:07,112 Don't go. 343 00:28:08,632 --> 00:28:10,112 Anna! 344 00:28:33,872 --> 00:28:35,632 Which way is out? 345 00:29:00,872 --> 00:29:02,712 This is Christian. 346 00:29:02,712 --> 00:29:05,112 Leave me a message and I'll get back to you. 347 00:29:06,112 --> 00:29:08,832 Faster, please. As fast as you can. 348 00:29:27,112 --> 00:29:29,392 Answer, Christian. Please answer the phone! 349 00:29:29,392 --> 00:29:32,632 This is Christian. Leave me a message and I'll get back to you. 350 00:29:45,072 --> 00:29:46,632 Excuse me. 351 00:29:46,632 --> 00:29:48,392 Are you Christian? 352 00:29:48,392 --> 00:29:50,232 Your wife's on the phone. 353 00:30:32,072 --> 00:30:33,872 Your bell's broke. 354 00:30:33,872 --> 00:30:36,352 I took the batteries out. 355 00:30:37,352 --> 00:30:39,112 I come in peace. 356 00:30:49,632 --> 00:30:51,392 You didn't phone. 357 00:30:56,752 --> 00:30:58,472 Is it your day off? 358 00:31:00,632 --> 00:31:04,112 You said you'd phone and tell me what was said at the meeting. 359 00:31:04,112 --> 00:31:06,632 Were there any...admissions? 360 00:31:22,712 --> 00:31:24,632 Only mine. 361 00:32:04,192 --> 00:32:06,112 You should tell someone. 362 00:32:08,392 --> 00:32:10,112 Solomon, at least. 363 00:32:13,632 --> 00:32:15,872 And what about Louise and Lenny? 364 00:32:19,352 --> 00:32:20,872 I don't know. 365 00:32:24,632 --> 00:32:27,032 I should definitely phone them, though. 366 00:32:27,032 --> 00:32:28,872 They'll be wondering. 367 00:32:41,312 --> 00:32:43,872 He must have put this in my bag. 368 00:32:43,872 --> 00:32:46,272 What the hell was he thinking? 369 00:32:46,272 --> 00:32:48,392 Phone Solomon now. 370 00:32:55,392 --> 00:32:56,952 No, Anna. 371 00:32:56,952 --> 00:33:00,712 He's the only one that can tell us what happened. No. 372 00:33:02,392 --> 00:33:05,392 We should make him do what I just had to do. 373 00:33:05,392 --> 00:33:08,632 Make him tell the truth with no-one there to speak for him. 374 00:33:10,632 --> 00:33:12,872 I don't want to know what happened. 375 00:33:20,392 --> 00:33:22,552 So what do you want, Christian? 376 00:33:24,112 --> 00:33:26,432 Because we can't go back, can we? 377 00:33:30,112 --> 00:33:31,792 So what do you want? 378 00:34:02,672 --> 00:34:04,712 Hiya, mate. 379 00:34:10,112 --> 00:34:12,112 What are you doing here? 380 00:34:18,872 --> 00:34:21,632 Judith said you went to see her as well. 381 00:34:22,872 --> 00:34:24,952 Yeah, because I'm worried about you. 382 00:34:27,872 --> 00:34:30,072 You're not exactly reassuring me. 383 00:34:30,072 --> 00:34:32,032 Who's Judith? 384 00:34:39,392 --> 00:34:42,872 She's the woman who's looked after my case since I was released. 385 00:34:46,872 --> 00:34:48,832 I'm a liar, Bex. 386 00:34:50,632 --> 00:34:54,432 I was taught to lie. I was told my life depended on it. 387 00:35:08,112 --> 00:35:10,952 I came close to telling you so many times 388 00:35:10,952 --> 00:35:13,392 but I couldn't risk losing you both. 389 00:35:13,392 --> 00:35:17,152 You looked me in the eye and you said, "I'm not him." 390 00:35:17,152 --> 00:35:19,032 How could you do that?! 391 00:35:19,032 --> 00:35:21,392 Because I'd convinced myself that I wasn't! 392 00:35:22,392 --> 00:35:26,392 You see, I've lied to everybody, including me. 393 00:35:26,392 --> 00:35:28,392 You didn't lie to him. 394 00:35:28,392 --> 00:35:31,192 I shared a cell with Tom in jail. 395 00:35:31,192 --> 00:35:33,872 I had to tell somebody or else I would have... 396 00:35:36,032 --> 00:35:39,112 After I got out, they wanted me to move to England. 397 00:35:39,112 --> 00:35:41,872 I found out he was coming back here and... 398 00:35:43,392 --> 00:35:45,872 ..I had to be myself with someone. 399 00:35:47,392 --> 00:35:49,272 You could have told me. 400 00:35:49,272 --> 00:35:50,872 Could I? 401 00:35:54,872 --> 00:35:58,112 I'm going to have to go somewhere and start again, Bex. 402 00:35:59,392 --> 00:36:01,632 I want that to be with you. 403 00:36:04,032 --> 00:36:05,392 No. 404 00:36:05,392 --> 00:36:07,752 Leave me alone. Leave me alone. 405 00:36:07,752 --> 00:36:10,632 I want you to know who I am. You and Jess. 406 00:36:10,632 --> 00:36:12,832 Leave me alone! 407 00:36:20,192 --> 00:36:21,872 I love you. 408 00:36:55,872 --> 00:36:57,352 Hi. 409 00:36:58,392 --> 00:37:01,872 You know you don't have to talk about it until you're ready, 410 00:37:01,872 --> 00:37:04,352 but as soon as you are, then... 411 00:37:07,392 --> 00:37:09,712 I'm so lucky to have you. 412 00:37:10,712 --> 00:37:12,192 We all are. 413 00:38:15,872 --> 00:38:17,392 I'm sorry. 414 00:38:26,872 --> 00:38:28,392 I'm sorry. 415 00:38:52,392 --> 00:38:53,872 Hello. 416 00:38:53,872 --> 00:38:56,112 10am tomorrow. 417 00:38:56,112 --> 00:38:57,872 You know where. 418 00:39:03,632 --> 00:39:07,392 Come on, then. I don't want to. 419 00:39:07,392 --> 00:39:09,112 Why not? 420 00:39:09,112 --> 00:39:10,872 I'm doing this, Dad! 421 00:39:11,872 --> 00:39:15,392 They're not going anywhere. Come on. This'll be good to keep. 422 00:39:16,392 --> 00:39:18,112 OK, then. 423 00:39:19,392 --> 00:39:21,112 Right, then. 424 00:39:21,112 --> 00:39:22,632 Here we go. 425 00:39:22,632 --> 00:39:24,032 Name? 426 00:39:24,032 --> 00:39:26,392 Liam. Liam Graham. 427 00:39:26,392 --> 00:39:27,872 Age? 428 00:39:27,872 --> 00:39:29,392 Nine. 429 00:39:29,392 --> 00:39:32,112 And...OK, what else? 430 00:39:32,112 --> 00:39:34,632 What do you want to be when you grow up? 431 00:39:35,632 --> 00:39:37,032 Big. 432 00:39:37,032 --> 00:39:39,152 I want to be big. 433 00:40:21,632 --> 00:40:23,112 No. 434 00:41:24,632 --> 00:41:27,632 I used to come and lay flowers here at first. 435 00:41:28,632 --> 00:41:30,392 Lots of people did. 436 00:41:32,392 --> 00:41:35,392 And then I thought, what the hell are we doing? 437 00:41:36,392 --> 00:41:38,112 Anywhere but here. 438 00:41:46,112 --> 00:41:48,552 Why did you give me your number? 439 00:41:51,872 --> 00:41:54,072 We didn't really finish the meeting. 440 00:41:55,632 --> 00:41:58,672 We didn't really start it, did we? 441 00:42:52,432 --> 00:42:53,912 Well, Eddie? 442 00:42:57,632 --> 00:42:59,712 Are you sure you want to hear this? 443 00:42:59,712 --> 00:43:03,392 Don't use my feelings as an excuse to get out of this. 444 00:43:04,632 --> 00:43:06,712 I know you think I kept it from you 445 00:43:06,712 --> 00:43:09,392 and I refused to say anything out of spite, but... 446 00:43:10,392 --> 00:43:13,392 ..the truth is, I didn't even tell my best friend, 447 00:43:13,392 --> 00:43:17,352 and I'd have gotten out a lot sooner if... You got out pretty bloody quick as it was. 448 00:43:17,352 --> 00:43:19,872 You're not supposed to interrupt. Fuck you! 449 00:43:19,872 --> 00:43:22,632 All I'm saying is, I didn't keep quiet to hurt you. 450 00:43:23,632 --> 00:43:25,112 It was for... 451 00:43:27,112 --> 00:43:28,952 It was for safety. 452 00:43:34,872 --> 00:43:38,632 You have to tell me everything right now. 453 00:43:39,872 --> 00:43:43,872 The first thing he said to the last thing he saw. 454 00:43:44,872 --> 00:43:46,552 Everything. 455 00:43:55,632 --> 00:43:58,432 I was staying with this woman my dad knew. 456 00:43:59,432 --> 00:44:01,872 I hadn't been back in a couple of days but... 457 00:44:02,872 --> 00:44:07,112 ..no-one had bothered so I spent half that day here. 458 00:44:09,632 --> 00:44:13,112 I picked up a piece of glass off a broken bottle and I was just... 459 00:44:14,392 --> 00:44:16,392 ..cutting myself. 460 00:44:17,872 --> 00:44:19,952 I couldn't really feel it. 461 00:44:21,392 --> 00:44:23,392 Like I wasn't really here. 462 00:44:25,632 --> 00:44:28,392 I was looking for somewhere to be invisible. 463 00:44:29,632 --> 00:44:31,392 Not for a victim. 464 00:44:32,632 --> 00:44:34,472 I didn't choose Liam. 465 00:44:41,392 --> 00:44:44,312 So you didn't take him from the shops? 466 00:44:45,312 --> 00:44:47,392 I don't know where he came from. 467 00:44:49,112 --> 00:44:50,872 I didn't choose him. 468 00:44:54,872 --> 00:44:56,872 So he could have been anyone? 469 00:45:03,112 --> 00:45:04,632 No. 470 00:45:07,872 --> 00:45:10,112 I saw him walking there. 471 00:45:11,392 --> 00:45:14,912 He was holding something in his hand like it was treasure. 472 00:45:16,872 --> 00:45:19,872 He just stopped dead and stared straight at me. 473 00:45:21,112 --> 00:45:23,392 It was a packet of football stickers. 474 00:45:25,632 --> 00:45:28,872 He started walking towards me and he could see the blood on my arm. 475 00:45:28,872 --> 00:45:30,792 He should have run a mile! 476 00:45:30,792 --> 00:45:32,392 But he didn't. 477 00:45:34,112 --> 00:45:36,872 He just stood where you're standing now and he said, 478 00:45:36,872 --> 00:45:38,712 "Are you all right?" 479 00:45:40,392 --> 00:45:42,632 "Leave me alone!" I said. 480 00:45:44,112 --> 00:45:45,872 But he doesn't. 481 00:45:48,632 --> 00:45:50,632 He was so small. 482 00:45:53,112 --> 00:45:54,632 Vulnerable. 483 00:45:59,112 --> 00:46:01,272 "Shall I get someone?" he says. 484 00:46:02,272 --> 00:46:04,392 And I can feel it. 485 00:46:04,392 --> 00:46:06,872 The anger's starting to build up. 486 00:46:09,872 --> 00:46:12,112 "Leave me alone," I say again. 487 00:46:13,392 --> 00:46:15,392 He just moves closer... 488 00:46:18,112 --> 00:46:19,632 ..and said... 489 00:46:21,392 --> 00:46:24,392 .."My mum's a nurse. I can get her." 490 00:46:27,392 --> 00:46:29,112 He said that? 491 00:46:30,112 --> 00:46:32,472 He said you could help me. 492 00:46:35,112 --> 00:46:38,192 You have to tell me the exact words he used. 493 00:46:38,192 --> 00:46:39,872 All of them. 494 00:46:46,112 --> 00:46:48,312 He said, "My mum's a nurse. 495 00:46:48,312 --> 00:46:50,392 "She can help you. 496 00:46:50,392 --> 00:46:52,392 "She helps anyone." 497 00:47:05,112 --> 00:47:08,392 I stand up and I've still got the piece of glass in my hand. 498 00:47:10,632 --> 00:47:13,872 I shout at him then, "Fuck off, will you?!" 499 00:47:16,112 --> 00:47:17,952 But he doesn't go. 500 00:47:19,112 --> 00:47:21,112 He just looks scared. 501 00:47:23,392 --> 00:47:26,112 He says, "You won't get into trouble." 502 00:47:28,392 --> 00:47:32,112 I don't understand why he didn't just go. 503 00:47:35,392 --> 00:47:38,392 He's looking right in my eyes but why didn't he just go? 504 00:47:38,392 --> 00:47:40,192 Why didn't he go?! 505 00:47:53,392 --> 00:47:56,032 I've waited so long to see you suffer. 506 00:48:04,872 --> 00:48:06,472 Then what? 507 00:48:08,112 --> 00:48:09,952 Then what, Eddie? 508 00:48:11,112 --> 00:48:12,872 I stabbed him. 509 00:48:17,632 --> 00:48:19,192 Where? 510 00:48:21,112 --> 00:48:23,032 In the neck. 511 00:48:26,112 --> 00:48:27,792 How many times? 512 00:48:27,792 --> 00:48:29,032 Twice. 513 00:48:30,032 --> 00:48:31,632 Three times. 514 00:48:33,872 --> 00:48:35,632 And then he just... 515 00:48:37,112 --> 00:48:38,512 ..sat down... 516 00:48:39,512 --> 00:48:41,112 ..surprised. 517 00:48:44,112 --> 00:48:47,392 He tried to say something but I just kept stabbing. 518 00:48:47,392 --> 00:48:49,672 What was he saying? 519 00:48:51,112 --> 00:48:52,792 I...I don't know. 520 00:48:52,792 --> 00:48:54,792 Yes, you do. I don't remember. 521 00:48:55,792 --> 00:48:57,432 What did he say? 522 00:48:58,432 --> 00:49:00,112 Say it! 523 00:49:01,112 --> 00:49:02,472 Say it! 524 00:49:02,472 --> 00:49:04,272 He called for you. 525 00:49:06,392 --> 00:49:08,392 And his dad too. 526 00:49:21,392 --> 00:49:24,632 I promised Liam I wouldn't cry in front of you. 527 00:49:26,872 --> 00:49:28,952 I've let him down again. 528 00:49:53,112 --> 00:49:55,112 Then what did you do? 529 00:49:57,112 --> 00:49:59,112 I didn't know what to do. 530 00:50:00,112 --> 00:50:02,032 I was covered in blood. 531 00:50:03,032 --> 00:50:04,552 So I ran. 532 00:50:05,872 --> 00:50:07,872 What? I ran. 533 00:50:10,392 --> 00:50:12,152 You left him here? 534 00:50:12,152 --> 00:50:14,192 But as I was running, I thought, 535 00:50:14,192 --> 00:50:17,032 "If I hide him properly, no-one will know." 536 00:50:17,032 --> 00:50:20,032 How long for? They said I tortured him and I didn't. 537 00:50:20,032 --> 00:50:22,632 How long?! I don't know. Ten minutes? 538 00:50:22,632 --> 00:50:26,832 But when I came back, he hadn't moved at all. He had to be dead. 539 00:50:29,632 --> 00:50:31,552 But you didn't check? 540 00:50:37,872 --> 00:50:39,632 You didn't check. 541 00:50:56,392 --> 00:50:58,592 There were other injuries. 542 00:50:58,592 --> 00:51:01,752 I had to get it off the path and down the bank. Him! 543 00:51:02,752 --> 00:51:06,112 I had to get him down the hill but he was dead. 544 00:51:08,392 --> 00:51:09,752 You... 545 00:51:10,752 --> 00:51:14,392 ..threw bricks and rubbish all over him. 546 00:51:14,392 --> 00:51:16,392 I was trying to hide it. 547 00:51:16,392 --> 00:51:17,872 Him! 548 00:51:17,872 --> 00:51:19,392 Him. 549 00:51:21,112 --> 00:51:22,632 Him. 550 00:51:25,632 --> 00:51:27,392 He was dead. 551 00:51:31,392 --> 00:51:33,152 I promise you. 552 00:51:46,752 --> 00:51:49,872 They told me I'd have to forgive myself! 553 00:51:51,872 --> 00:51:54,552 Like it's a decision I can make. 554 00:51:56,392 --> 00:51:58,112 I couldn't do it. 555 00:52:03,392 --> 00:52:06,112 But I can't live with this 556 00:52:06,112 --> 00:52:08,392 every minute of every day. 557 00:52:10,392 --> 00:52:12,112 So how do I go on? 558 00:52:17,632 --> 00:52:20,392 I know I can't ever make it right. 559 00:52:21,392 --> 00:52:23,712 I knew that straight away. 560 00:52:23,712 --> 00:52:26,392 That it would never go away. 561 00:52:26,392 --> 00:52:30,392 And every time I caught myself smiling... 562 00:52:31,872 --> 00:52:34,472 ..watching Jess in her school play, 563 00:52:34,472 --> 00:52:37,112 laughing at something on the TV, 564 00:52:37,112 --> 00:52:39,312 I'd remember what I did... 565 00:52:40,312 --> 00:52:42,872 ..and I've got no right to be happy. 566 00:52:44,872 --> 00:52:46,872 Not even for a minute. 567 00:52:51,872 --> 00:52:55,392 I asked them after the sentencing to speak to you 568 00:52:55,392 --> 00:52:58,632 so I could apologise but they said it wasn't allowed 569 00:52:58,632 --> 00:53:01,592 and you wouldn't accept it anyway. 570 00:53:02,592 --> 00:53:06,872 And after time, I realised how small it is, that word. 571 00:53:09,632 --> 00:53:11,472 It just got smaller. 572 00:53:12,472 --> 00:53:14,912 And what I did kept on getting bigger. 573 00:53:20,392 --> 00:53:24,872 There's not much that can really be said in the end, is there? 574 00:53:27,872 --> 00:53:30,032 But I am, Anna. 575 00:53:33,392 --> 00:53:36,392 I am so sorry. 576 00:53:48,112 --> 00:53:50,032 I'm Eddie. 577 00:53:51,392 --> 00:53:54,032 There was nothing that you could have done. 578 00:53:56,112 --> 00:53:58,872 I'm the only one that could have stopped it. 579 00:55:09,392 --> 00:55:11,552 He wanted to be big. 40515

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