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A funny thing happened
right when we broke up.
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1980 is when the format
"classic rock" hit American radio.
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So even though the band broke up,
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they kept playing our songs
all the time.
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It was like we never went away.
We were still on the radio.
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Somebody once told me
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people didn't just listen
to the Eagles.
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They did things to the Eagles.
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They went on fandangos
and drove across the country
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with three
of their high-school buddies.
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People broke up
with their girlfriends.
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People quit their jobs
or changed their lives.
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They did things to the Eagles.
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Songs from that album have even
been played in outer space.
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And they used to pipe the music
up to the space shuttle
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to wake the astronauts up
in the morning.
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Shortly after having their breakfast
of steak and eggs and toast,
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he then put on his space suit
and helmet.
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That song has really gotten around.
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There's been a lot of conjecture
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about how and why
we got back together.
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We began to realize
that we'd been away for 14 years.
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Maybe we could have that rarest
of things in American life,
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which is a second act.
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You know, a second chance.
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Thank you.
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When we stopped, I was really sad.
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Like, "What are we gonna do?"
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No!
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I was pretty devastated.
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I had only been part of it
for barely three years,
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and I'd loved it.
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We created this monster,
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and it took its toll
on all of our lives.
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Somebody was quoted as saying
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the Eagles would get back together
when hell freezes over.
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So, hell froze over.
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We're all ready.
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The gentleman in blue over there.
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After the acrimony
and the bitterness
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that marked the demise of the band,
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it must have been a long road
to reunion.
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Can you just take us through
the steps that you went through
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on the road to reunification?
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No.
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Anybody want that one?
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No, really, it's a fair question.
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From the time
that we disbanded in 1980,
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there were always offers
on the table
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for us to get back together.
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It started with the first US festival,
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and Steve Wozniak wanted
to pay us a million dollars.
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I said no.
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I needed to do something else.
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I called my first solo album
"No Fun Aloud"
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because I was having
so much fun.
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It was so liberating to know
that whatever I did
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was gonna be more fun
than what I just did
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for the last three years
on "The Long Run" album.
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I knew I wanted to have
a songwriting partner,
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so I asked my friend
Jack Tempchin
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if he wanted to write
some songs together.
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And Jack's a very bright guy
lyrically,
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and so I started working with him.
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He had become a disciplined
co-writer with Don Henley,
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and when the Eagles broke up,
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he just wanted to let go and have
some fun with music, you know?
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So we were fiddling around
with some grooves,
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and one of us said,
"You belong to the city."
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And then we're going,
"Oh, yeah, yeah. That's it."
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You just show up
and good things happen.
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Henley's solo career
was really, really successful.
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Going solo was
the scariest part of my life.
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The whole MTV thing was a difficult
transition for me to make.
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You know, the Eagles, at one point,
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had been accused by some critic
of loitering onstage.
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So it was difficult for us loiterers
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to make the transition
to the world of choreography
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and costume and acting.
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Did I benefit from MTV?
Yes, I did.
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You know, I made a couple of videos
that won some MTV awards.
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Nevertheless, I would just as soon
have skipped the whole thing
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because I considered myself,
first and foremost,
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a songwriter
and a recording artist.
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I didn't really want to be
an actor, too.
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Nice, huh?
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The guy who sold it to me
said it was a lemon.
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But I'm telling you,
it may look like a cow,
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but she runs like a stallion.
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I always like to take
a good-bye look at America.
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Just in case it's my last.
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I acted in television, in movies.
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I wasn't really thinking about getting
back together with the Eagles.
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The guy's got an attitude problem.
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Yeah, well, he listens to me.
I can help you with that.
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Cameron would call me up and say,
"Glenn, I got to find somebody
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that's not gonna take any shit
off Tom Cruise,
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and I think you're the guy."
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We have history, Dennis.
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Oh, yeah.
We got history all right, Jerry.
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No,no,no.
No,no,no.
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Dennis! Dennis! Dennis!
Don't! Don't!
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I signed Don Henley
to Geffen Records.
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Now, you might say,
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since the Eagles sued me
at Asylum Records...
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DAVID GEFFEN
FOUNDER, ASYLUM RECORDS
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...why he did come with me
at Geffen Records?
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Well, David uses
the same pickup lines
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every time he comes a-courtin'.
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"You know how much
I care about you as an artist.
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You know what a big fan I am
of yours."
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And so I bought it a second time
and I signed with him.
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And then things started
to fall apart.
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I produced several hits,
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but I could feel the support
somehow waning.
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Don got into arguments with them
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over things like budget, videos,
artwork, things like that.
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I recall Don starting
to write letters to them
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referring to them
as Nickel and Dime Records.
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When you feel like your label
is not supporting you,
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it's completely deflating.
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I used to call him "Golden throat."
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I thought he was
an incredible singer.
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But, by nature, he's a malcontent.
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He's always been a malcontent.
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And, you know, that's just life.
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So I just said one day, "I'm not
gonna record for you anymore.
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I'm leaving."
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And so he sued me
for $30 million.
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My wife has M.S.,
and they deposed her,
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dragged her all the way
from Texas to Los Angeles
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to sit her down
in front of his attorneys
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and ask her
a bunch of pointless questions,
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because she didn't know anything.
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I thought that was really low.
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I said to Irving
over the Henley contract,
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"I'd sooner die
than let you fuck me.
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You'd better win this case."
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It was settled, you know,
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and that was the end
of that relationship.
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I've realized now
that we have adult rock stars.
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You don't have to give this up
when you turn 30 or 35 or 40.
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I'll always make records
and write songs.
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I got to do them.
Otherwise, I'd go nuts.
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This is a tune that was written
with my new friend Mike Campbell
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and my old friend
John David Souther.
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When the band broke up,
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Glenn started writing songs
with Jack Tempchin.
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I guess the rift
between Henley and Frey
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probably spread
to between Frey and me.
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Glenn and I had had some
outrageously fun times together.
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And then Don and I did
for a decade or so.
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How have you changed
as musicians over the years,
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both as a group and individually?
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Well, your whole mandate
is just to improve.
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You know, life is about improvement,
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whether it's as a musician
or as a singer or as a songwriter
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or just, you know, all the other
different hats we all wear.
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So, hopefully,
we're just getting better.
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We've been doing this
quite a long time now on and off,
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and we feel like we've got it down
pretty good.
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And, in fact,
we've had five days off,
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and we're ready to go now.
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When the Eagles first broke up,
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I wasn't quite sure
what I was gonna do with myself.
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So I just hustled.
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I went just as a singer with Toto,
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I played bass for Jimmy Buffett,
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I went out with Warren Zevon
and Dan Fogelberg,
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and stuff I wouldn't have
necessarily done.
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I sang on Poison records
and Twisted Sister,
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although you'll never see my name.
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They never gave me credit.
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That was more like yelling.
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It's not all gonna be
the greatest thing in the world.
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But if you can work and support
yourself and your family,
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it's good.
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Okay, next question.
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Gentleman in the front here,
Richard.
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What position do you think
rock 'n' roll takes now about drugs?
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We came from a generation
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that experimented with all kinds
of substances, of course.
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I think our message is that
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you can be a damn good rock band
without all that stuff.
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I'd like to propose a toast
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to dedicate this song to you,
to us.
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The drinking man's musician,
Joe Walsh!
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I ended up an alcoholic.
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And very fond of cocaine.
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If I was awake,
I was doing that stuff.
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Good morning, rock fans.
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In the very early years,
it had briefly worked.
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Wow.
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And then you chase it
when it doesn't work anymore.
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And I chased it
for years and years.
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"Could Hemingway have written
like that if he was sober,
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or could Hendrix
have played like that
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if he didn't experiment
with hallucinogenics?
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Well, probably not."
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I used that one
for years and years,
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and it never occurred to me
that all those people are dead.
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They got further and further away
from reality.
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Should I look at you
or the camera?
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Look at me.
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I ended up in bad shape.
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I had hit bottom.
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And I knew that I was done
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and that...
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...I would probably die
if I kept going.
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Joe was a mess.
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He was around a bunch of people
that were really just enablers.
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Nobody wanted to intervene.
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Nobody wanted to tell him
he had a drug problem
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or a drinking problem.
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Everybody was just
going along with Joe.
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I remember what we all did
when it was an art form, you know?
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And I'd like to fight
to get it back to that.
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And I was very, very happy
in the Eagles.
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I was just gonna say
I'm sorry we broke up,
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but we didn't break up.
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We just stopped, I think.
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We just said, you know,
"The heck with the '80s."
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Song 3, take 6.
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In 1990, we tried to get together
to refuel it.
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Everybody was in on that,
but Glenn wasn't involved yet.
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Irving got us together --
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Timothy, Joe, myself,
and Don Henley.
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Glenn was supposed to join us
in the studio,
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and he was gonna bring
some songs in,
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and we were gonna start making
another record.
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So, we started rehearsing,
the four of us,
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then we got a call,
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I think, about the third or fourth day
in the studio
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saying that Glenn had refused
to come be part of it,
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to join the party.
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So we just stopped.
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He was still, "I'm not doing this."
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Well, you know,
to tell you the truth,
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I was having a fine time
doing what I was doing.
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I mean, there's more to life
than being in the Eagles.
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The moment was always gonna be
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kind of when Glenn was ready
to do it again.
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I think Henley would have been
more willing than Glenn.
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For me, personally,
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I think that I had proved
pretty much everything
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that I needed to prove
in my solo career.
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I had won a couple of Grammys
248
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and had a few hits
and some successful tours.
249
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And I had founded
the Walden Woods Project.
250
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When you're a solo artist,
251
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you have to take responsibility
for everything --
252
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every mistake, every bad record,
every sour note.
253
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But when you're in a band,
254
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you get to share the praise
and the blame with your bandmates.
255
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So, I was okay with the notion
256
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of maybe going back
and being in a band again.
257
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The thing that sort of
turned my head
258
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was the release
of the "Common Thread" album.
259
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Irving and Don went to Nashville
260
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and they talked a bunch of people
into recording some Eagles songs
261
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with the royalties going
to the Walden Woods Project.
262
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I don't know who asked me,
but they said,
263
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"Travis Tritt's gonna do a video
of 'Take It Easy'
264
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and he wants to know if you guys
will be in the video."
265
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I said, "Well, okay."
266
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Never really talked to Travis
about whose idea it was.
267
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I think Irving probably had a hand
in that whole thing.
268
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Was I trying to put
the band back together
269
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by doing "Common Thread"?
No.
270
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Was I waiting for the moment?
Yeah.
271
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In the Travis Tritt video,
there was a little bandstand scene
272
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and we all picked up our instruments
and started playing.
273
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I was thinking, "Guys, come on."
You know?
274
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You know, it's interesting.
After years pass, you know,
275
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you really sort of remember
that you were friends first.
276
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You have a lot
of common history together
277
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and a lot of shared experiences.
278
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I remembered
mostly the good stuff.
279
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I didn't really think
about the bad stuff.
280
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I just remembered how much
we genuinely had liked each other
281
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and how much fun we'd had.
282
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We realized, after the success
of the "Common Thread" album
283
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that there were still
a lot of people out there --
284
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a whole lot of people --
who wanted to see us play again.
285
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You know, sometimes there's a little
bit of serendipity involved in this,
286
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and I think what happened
287
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is everybody's life
started to line up in a way
288
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that now it made sense
for all of us.
289
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And we discussed it.
290
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Joe and Don came up and sat in
at a benefit that I did in Aspen.
291
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We had a meeting in Aspen.
292
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I was one of the first guys
that they wanted to try it out on.
293
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You know, Joe was buzzed.
It was 1:00 in the afternoon.
294
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You know, and he would say,
"Hey, I'm there, man.
295
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I'm fine. Don't worry about me."
296
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But Don and I could both tell
that he wasn't fine,
297
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and we were worried.
298
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They said what they wanted to do.
299
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They wanted to try it,
get back together again.
300
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They didn't know what I would say,
301
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but I said, "I understand,
and, yeah, I can get sober."
302
00:20:54,378 --> 00:20:57,211
We had to get Joe
into some sort of rehab,
303
00:20:57,381 --> 00:20:59,880
and we couldn't be sure
it was gonna work.
304
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So we better have Felder.
305
00:21:00,968 --> 00:21:04,177
The Eagles reunion had better have
at least one of the two of them,
306
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and hopefully both.
307
00:21:05,598 --> 00:21:07,900
Irving called me up and said
308
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that Don and Glenn and Joe
had gotten together,
309
00:21:10,811 --> 00:21:12,893
and they were talking
about doing something,
310
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and would I be interested
in doing it?
311
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I said, "Absolutely."
312
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One thing led to another,
313
00:21:20,290 --> 00:21:23,670
and finally Irving and Don Felder
picked him up
314
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and drove him to rehab.
315
00:21:25,910 --> 00:21:30,780
I made a commitment to them
that I would clean up...
316
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...and that I would be in the band
317
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if that's what they wanted to do.
318
00:21:49,517 --> 00:21:52,976
I'm really, really grateful
to those three guys...
319
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...because I had...
320
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...a really good reason to get sober.
321
00:22:04,573 --> 00:22:10,615
And as soon as I got sober,
we started rehearsal.
322
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From that first phone call from Irving
to showing up on a rehearsal stage
323
00:22:57,877 --> 00:23:00,744
to start putting together
a show for MTV
324
00:23:00,921 --> 00:23:04,390
was only a matter of weeks,
if not a month.
325
00:23:09,597 --> 00:23:13,340
It was a little scary
rehearsing for the MTV thing.
326
00:23:13,517 --> 00:23:16,635
Normally, I think people
would have their act down
327
00:23:16,854 --> 00:23:18,265
a few weeks, at least,
328
00:23:18,439 --> 00:23:20,555
before entering
into something like that,
329
00:23:20,733 --> 00:23:24,601
but we just dove in headfirst.
330
00:23:34,790 --> 00:23:35,911
Well, even though we had
rehearsed really well,
331
00:23:36,810 --> 00:23:37,742
for the first time
to walk out on stage
332
00:23:37,917 --> 00:23:40,409
and actually play as a band
in public
333
00:23:40,586 --> 00:23:42,998
and kind of put the key
back into the ignition
334
00:23:43,172 --> 00:23:45,129
and turn it over
for the first time,
335
00:23:45,299 --> 00:23:47,461
it was really a lot of nerves.
336
00:23:48,100 --> 00:23:49,796
Are we going the right way?
337
00:23:49,970 --> 00:23:50,960
Glenn.
338
00:23:51,138 --> 00:23:53,254
Not having played as a group
in 14 years,
339
00:23:53,432 --> 00:23:56,845
the first night,
there was a lot of terror.
340
00:23:57,190 --> 00:23:58,635
Gentlemen, good to be with ya.
341
00:23:58,812 --> 00:24:01,224
Hope I'm with ya all night.
342
00:24:01,398 --> 00:24:03,810
- Have a good one, okay?
-Okay.
343
00:24:03,984 --> 00:24:07,352
- Showtime!
-Showtime! Showtime!
344
00:24:14,411 --> 00:24:18,279
The audience was very kind,
and they were with us.
345
00:24:18,457 --> 00:24:22,325
And that was good,
but it was rough.
346
00:25:00,207 --> 00:25:03,700
Even when we went onstage,
we were definitely a little tight.
347
00:25:03,877 --> 00:25:06,869
Until, I think,
Henley forgot the words
348
00:25:07,470 --> 00:25:09,505
to one of the new songs...
349
00:25:20,227 --> 00:25:22,639
You want to start again?
I'll tell you what.
350
00:25:22,813 --> 00:25:28,149
This is television, so we get
to do this till we're happy.
351
00:25:30,237 --> 00:25:32,604
Now, I thought you didn't remember the
third verse.
352
00:25:32,781 --> 00:25:34,317
That was only the second verse!
353
00:25:34,491 --> 00:25:36,357
I know. I know the third verse.
354
00:25:36,535 --> 00:25:37,775
That was sort of the icebreaker,
though.
355
00:25:37,953 --> 00:25:39,569
That was a good thing, ultimately.
356
00:25:39,747 --> 00:25:42,114
I feel like Tommy Smothers.
All right.
357
00:25:47,629 --> 00:25:50,747
We didn't think getting back together
was quite as legitimate
358
00:25:50,924 --> 00:25:52,460
unless we had some new material,
359
00:25:52,634 --> 00:25:55,922
so we're gonna put forth several
new songs for you this evening.
360
00:25:58,432 --> 00:26:01,940
This first one Timothy B. Schmit
is gonna sing for you.
361
00:26:01,268 --> 00:26:03,350
This is called
"Love Will Keep Us Alive."
362
00:26:42,601 --> 00:26:45,138
After selling
100 million records worldwide,
363
00:26:45,312 --> 00:26:48,475
was it real pressure on you
to write the new material
364
00:26:48,649 --> 00:26:50,640
for the "Hell Freezes Over" album?
365
00:26:52,277 --> 00:26:55,895
We didn't really look at it
as a body of new work.
366
00:26:56,730 --> 00:26:58,280
It was more of a retrospective
piece of material.
367
00:26:58,450 --> 00:27:01,363
And we look forward
to writing some new material,
368
00:27:01,537 --> 00:27:02,618
perhaps in the future.
369
00:27:02,788 --> 00:27:05,325
We can't keep recycling
this material,
370
00:27:05,499 --> 00:27:08,161
although it seems to be working
just fine.
371
00:27:11,922 --> 00:27:16,700
Don and I were trying to figure out
how to write another song,
372
00:27:16,176 --> 00:27:18,800
and, I mean, really, if we could.
373
00:27:18,178 --> 00:27:21,910
We hadn't written anything together
since, like, '78.
374
00:27:21,265 --> 00:27:24,508
So it was a little awkward at first,
just getting back into the groove.
375
00:27:24,685 --> 00:27:26,346
Yeah.
376
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:27,726
So, we go, 1...
377
00:27:27,896 --> 00:27:30,137
Okay, here we are starting out
at 1, 2...
378
00:27:30,315 --> 00:27:31,476
During "The Long Run" album,
379
00:27:31,650 --> 00:27:33,561
there were a lot of sessions
with Don and I
380
00:27:33,735 --> 00:27:34,896
where nothing got done.
381
00:27:35,700 --> 00:27:37,607
We were both a little bit reticent
to introduce our ideas
382
00:27:37,781 --> 00:27:39,522
for fear that they weren't
good enough.
383
00:27:39,700 --> 00:27:42,533
So when we sat down
to do it again in '94,
384
00:27:42,703 --> 00:27:47,380
my first worry was, "Is it gonna be
as hard as it was in 1978?"
385
00:27:49,376 --> 00:27:51,868
We were sitting around, "What are
we gonna write about?" and stuff.
386
00:27:52,450 --> 00:27:55,504
And he said, "Well, I've got
this one title, 'Get Over it."'
387
00:27:55,674 --> 00:27:57,415
And he sort of proceeded to tell me
388
00:27:57,593 --> 00:27:59,880
what it was
that was pissing him off --
389
00:28:00,530 --> 00:28:02,100
all these people
going on television
390
00:28:02,181 --> 00:28:05,344
and everything that's wrong with them
is somebody else's fault.
391
00:28:05,517 --> 00:28:07,554
"I'm just sick of all this whining,
392
00:28:07,728 --> 00:28:10,561
and so I'm gonna write a song
called 'Get Over it."'
393
00:28:10,731 --> 00:28:13,940
The intro, straight Chuck Berry.
394
00:28:14,109 --> 00:28:16,942
Never play a 7, right?
395
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,939
So, then I said, "I think maybe
a Chuck Berry riff
396
00:28:22,117 --> 00:28:24,740
would be a good way
to tell that story."
397
00:28:24,244 --> 00:28:25,405
Time out.
398
00:28:25,579 --> 00:28:27,820
Do you want to play the...?
399
00:28:27,998 --> 00:28:29,363
You want to do it on slide?
400
00:28:29,541 --> 00:28:32,249
And then Felder and I will just play
power chords low and high.
401
00:28:32,419 --> 00:28:34,581
And those guys will play
Chuck Berry low and high.
402
00:28:34,755 --> 00:28:37,543
And we can do "Get Over it".
403
00:28:37,716 --> 00:28:40,424
A couple little of them
slide answer licks is cool.
404
00:28:40,594 --> 00:28:44,929
My favorite thing is when
Don and Glenn co-write stuff.
405
00:28:45,980 --> 00:28:47,465
I like to play guitar to that.
406
00:29:06,787 --> 00:29:09,575
You want me to sing it,
or do you want to wait?
407
00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:11,455
It's 10 to 6.
408
00:29:11,625 --> 00:29:14,708
You can sing it at 10 to 6
or 5 to 6.
409
00:29:14,878 --> 00:29:17,165
- Do it again?
-Yeah, we'll do it twice.
410
00:29:17,339 --> 00:29:19,876
Yeah, you could write it in
with the mike.
411
00:29:21,900 --> 00:29:23,216
Captioned for hard of hearing.
412
00:29:29,393 --> 00:29:31,600
It was really liberating.
413
00:29:31,770 --> 00:29:33,636
We both walked out
of the session and went,
414
00:29:33,814 --> 00:29:36,602
"God, we can still do it.
I can't believe it.
415
00:29:36,775 --> 00:29:39,142
We just wrote a song together.
Maybe we can write some more."
416
00:29:44,616 --> 00:29:46,857
That was a really good feeling.
417
00:29:47,350 --> 00:29:50,118
It was a great sort of
artistic reconciliation
418
00:29:50,289 --> 00:29:52,997
for us to have been able to sit down
and write that song together.
419
00:30:25,490 --> 00:30:26,651
Get over it!
420
00:30:32,247 --> 00:30:35,456
We did "Hell Freezes Over,"
and then we went out on the road.
421
00:30:39,838 --> 00:30:42,000
That was the question
on everyone's mind --
422
00:30:42,215 --> 00:30:44,923
what if we got back together,
and no one showed up?
423
00:31:11,161 --> 00:31:14,199
We set it up to be
a three-month reunion.
424
00:31:14,373 --> 00:31:17,456
I went back to my wife, and I had
two young kids at the time.
425
00:31:17,626 --> 00:31:19,913
I said, "I don't know
if you're gonna recognize me.
426
00:31:20,870 --> 00:31:22,579
I don't know
what this is gonna do to me.
427
00:31:22,756 --> 00:31:25,464
But I hope I don't change too much.
428
00:31:25,634 --> 00:31:27,250
Hang in there with me."
429
00:32:00,127 --> 00:32:02,994
I was on the side of the stage
once at one of their shows
430
00:32:03,171 --> 00:32:04,787
when they first got back together,
431
00:32:04,965 --> 00:32:07,707
and Jack Nicholson was euphoric
432
00:32:07,884 --> 00:32:10,751
listening to this band play again,
you know.
433
00:32:10,929 --> 00:32:15,140
And he said...
434
00:32:15,183 --> 00:32:17,800
"Repertoire."
435
00:32:17,978 --> 00:32:19,685
What do you want to hear?
436
00:32:31,908 --> 00:32:34,445
We didn't know how many people
are gonna show up for us to reunite,
437
00:32:34,619 --> 00:32:37,327
but people came out in droves.
438
00:32:49,926 --> 00:32:51,837
We were sold out everywhere.
439
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,879
Audiences were having
a fabulous time.
440
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:56,342
We were having a good time, too.
441
00:33:31,384 --> 00:33:32,624
Heartache, baby!
442
00:33:37,849 --> 00:33:40,637
I listened to the guys,
and Joe Walsh, for example,
443
00:33:40,810 --> 00:33:42,721
is playing better and singing better
444
00:33:42,896 --> 00:33:45,354
than I've ever heard him play
in his life since I've known him.
445
00:33:53,281 --> 00:33:57,650
I didn't have time to really
sit around and miss alcohol
446
00:33:57,827 --> 00:34:01,866
or cold turkey from more cocaine
or anything.
447
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:09,583
And I had to go in front of people
and play and sing sober,
448
00:34:09,756 --> 00:34:12,714
which I hated, at first.
449
00:34:12,926 --> 00:34:14,870
Ooh, that was scary.
450
00:35:46,436 --> 00:35:50,270
When Joe first got out of rehab
and we started rehearsing,
451
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,101
he was still pretty dark.
452
00:35:52,275 --> 00:35:54,983
But over the course
of that first year getting sober,
453
00:35:55,153 --> 00:35:58,396
I think he found happiness again.
454
00:35:58,573 --> 00:36:00,985
He found a way to be happy.
455
00:36:06,706 --> 00:36:07,912
You look very pretty.
456
00:36:08,830 --> 00:36:09,619
It's okay. Once more.
457
00:36:09,793 --> 00:36:11,625
Oh, now, are you ready?
458
00:36:11,795 --> 00:36:14,200
Father, daughter, take one.
459
00:36:14,839 --> 00:36:18,207
We got that family thing
to ground us all now.
460
00:36:18,385 --> 00:36:20,968
It's really sort of
our common thread.
461
00:36:21,137 --> 00:36:22,377
We've all got kids.
462
00:36:22,555 --> 00:36:24,762
It changes your life
463
00:36:24,933 --> 00:36:27,846
and your perspective
on your work, as well.
464
00:36:39,614 --> 00:36:42,481
So, the tour was
so enormously successful
465
00:36:42,659 --> 00:36:44,320
that we sort of didn't want
to give that up, you know?
466
00:36:44,494 --> 00:36:48,158
It's like, "Okay, this is good.
I could do this for a while."
467
00:37:31,332 --> 00:37:33,390
Doing a concert
is a strange combination
468
00:37:33,209 --> 00:37:34,825
of conscious and subconscious acts.
469
00:37:35,300 --> 00:37:37,290
You're not really thinking
about what you're doing
470
00:37:37,464 --> 00:37:39,460
because you know it so well,
you're just doing it.
471
00:37:39,215 --> 00:37:41,297
On the other hand, you have to put
some emotion into it.
472
00:37:41,468 --> 00:37:43,300
When you've got a crowd
that's cheering you on,
473
00:37:43,470 --> 00:37:45,586
it doesn't matter how many times
you've sung the song.
474
00:37:45,764 --> 00:37:46,970
You just do it.
475
00:38:34,437 --> 00:38:35,848
We've played all over the world,
476
00:38:36,220 --> 00:38:37,933
and probably,
if we could write the script,
477
00:38:38,107 --> 00:38:40,189
it was probably a genius move.
478
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,772
'Cause when we come back,
it's bigger than ever.
479
00:38:42,946 --> 00:38:46,780
How much money do you expect
to gross with this European tour?
480
00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:48,657
Irving?
481
00:38:48,827 --> 00:38:50,784
I actually haven't added it up,
but I will tell you that --
482
00:38:50,954 --> 00:38:52,160
Good answer.
483
00:38:53,665 --> 00:38:55,906
One thing,
484
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,622
the cost of being a touring
rock-'n'-roll band in Europe
485
00:38:59,796 --> 00:39:02,333
are beyond our wildest imaginations,
486
00:39:02,507 --> 00:39:04,544
but this band is here in Europe
487
00:39:04,717 --> 00:39:06,674
because there was demand for us
to be here.
488
00:39:06,845 --> 00:39:10,338
And it's not nearly as lucrative
as anything we've done before.
489
00:39:12,433 --> 00:39:14,940
It isn't?
490
00:39:20,650 --> 00:39:23,108
Offers started coming in
for us to do more shows,
491
00:39:23,278 --> 00:39:24,359
and I just sort of said,
492
00:39:24,529 --> 00:39:26,736
"Well, book some more.
It doesn't have to end now.
493
00:39:26,906 --> 00:39:28,192
Book some more.
Where else can we play?"
494
00:39:28,366 --> 00:39:29,322
"Well, you haven't been in Europe."
495
00:39:29,492 --> 00:39:31,358
"Well, let's go there."
496
00:40:15,121 --> 00:40:16,782
How's it go?
497
00:40:41,481 --> 00:40:43,188
We had drawn a line in the sand
498
00:40:43,358 --> 00:40:46,726
and said, "No drugs or alcohol
during any band activities."
499
00:40:46,903 --> 00:40:48,644
And as a result,
500
00:40:48,821 --> 00:40:51,620
we're playing and singing
pretty damn good.
501
00:40:56,913 --> 00:40:59,750
I think the thing that brings them
together is the harmony.
502
00:40:59,248 --> 00:41:02,491
When they start hearing that
and how seamless and how perfect,
503
00:41:02,669 --> 00:41:05,100
they get as thrilled
as the audiences do,
504
00:41:05,171 --> 00:41:06,536
that "We can still do this."
505
00:41:29,362 --> 00:41:30,852
We can't really understand it.
506
00:41:31,300 --> 00:41:32,987
It's just the chemistry that works.
507
00:41:33,157 --> 00:41:35,273
And we gave up
trying to understand it.
508
00:41:35,451 --> 00:41:36,691
It just works.
509
00:41:36,869 --> 00:41:39,310
We're just gonna do one verse
the "New Kid."
510
00:41:39,205 --> 00:41:40,991
- One verse the "New Kid."
-Okay.
511
00:41:41,165 --> 00:41:42,872
- Joe's singing "Smuggler's Blues."
-Okay.
512
00:41:43,420 --> 00:41:45,204
I'll just do the beginning
of "Funk 49."
513
00:41:45,378 --> 00:41:46,743
And then I'm gonna go pee.
514
00:41:46,921 --> 00:41:48,878
- Yeah.
-Then I'll go pee.
515
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:50,630
1,2,3.
516
00:43:32,193 --> 00:43:33,979
All right, boys!
517
00:43:34,153 --> 00:43:36,360
We ended up
going all around the world
518
00:43:36,531 --> 00:43:39,444
in about two years and nine months.
519
00:43:57,426 --> 00:44:00,214
Thank you, Dublin!
520
00:44:05,810 --> 00:44:08,723
We've learned not to make
career decisions
521
00:44:08,896 --> 00:44:11,120
at the end of long tours.
522
00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:12,646
If we break up again, though,
you won't hear about it.
523
00:44:12,817 --> 00:44:14,524
We'll just go quietly.
524
00:44:14,694 --> 00:44:16,435
And we'll say we're still together.
525
00:44:16,612 --> 00:44:17,773
Yeah.
526
00:44:19,991 --> 00:44:22,574
They've laughed, cried, fought,
527
00:44:22,743 --> 00:44:25,735
but most of all,
they have beaten the odds
528
00:44:25,913 --> 00:44:27,449
and are as popular today
529
00:44:27,623 --> 00:44:31,617
as they were in that incredible
summer back in 1972.
530
00:44:31,794 --> 00:44:34,957
It is an honor and a pleasure
to introduce the Eagles.
531
00:44:40,553 --> 00:44:43,170
A lot has been talked about
and speculated about
532
00:44:43,347 --> 00:44:46,885
over the last 27 years
about whether or not we got along.
533
00:44:47,590 --> 00:44:51,519
We got along fine.
We just disagreed a lot.
534
00:44:51,689 --> 00:44:55,570
I was not in the trenches
with this particular band,
535
00:44:55,234 --> 00:44:57,601
so I'd like to thank
my predecessor, Randy Meisner,
536
00:44:57,778 --> 00:44:59,180
for being there.
537
00:44:59,197 --> 00:45:03,650
I'm glad that Randy and Bernie
got recognized.
538
00:45:03,242 --> 00:45:04,983
I think that's appropriate.
539
00:45:07,246 --> 00:45:08,611
Hey, how you doin'?
540
00:45:08,789 --> 00:45:10,154
It's a good feeling.
541
00:45:10,333 --> 00:45:13,496
Looks good on my résumé.
542
00:45:16,214 --> 00:45:19,502
I'd really like to thank Don and Glenn
for writing those songs.
543
00:45:19,675 --> 00:45:21,336
Thank you, GUYS-
544
00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:23,920
It makes my job real easy.
545
00:45:23,262 --> 00:45:25,173
Thank you!
546
00:45:27,990 --> 00:45:29,340
Charming outfit, Joe.
547
00:45:30,394 --> 00:45:33,182
I'd like to, again, thank
Don Henley and Glenn Frey
548
00:45:33,356 --> 00:45:34,846
for writing an incredible
body of work
549
00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:39,143
that's propelled this band through
20-some-odd years' worth of life.
550
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:40,310
Thank you, GUYS-
551
00:45:40,488 --> 00:45:43,446
When a kid first picks up
a guitar or a drumstick,
552
00:45:43,616 --> 00:45:45,232
it's not really to be famous.
553
00:45:45,409 --> 00:45:47,741
It's because that kid wants
to fit in somewhere
554
00:45:47,912 --> 00:45:49,528
and he wants to be accepted,
555
00:45:49,705 --> 00:45:52,618
and he wants to be
understood, even.
556
00:45:52,792 --> 00:45:56,831
And so, I like to think
of this award
557
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:58,790
as something
that is acknowledging us
558
00:45:58,965 --> 00:46:02,549
not for being famous,
but for doing the work.
559
00:46:02,718 --> 00:46:04,174
And I appreciate all the work
560
00:46:04,345 --> 00:46:06,302
that all these guys behind me
have done.
561
00:46:06,472 --> 00:46:07,962
I want to thank Irving Azoff,
562
00:46:08,140 --> 00:46:11,132
without whom
we wouldn't be here today.
563
00:46:12,645 --> 00:46:15,979
As I've said before, he may be
Satan, but he's our Satan.
564
00:46:17,984 --> 00:46:20,225
We're in a dog-eat-dog business.
565
00:46:20,403 --> 00:46:22,519
Show me anybody
that's gonna be responsible
566
00:46:22,697 --> 00:46:25,564
for guiding or managing
an artist's career
567
00:46:25,741 --> 00:46:26,856
that's made too many friends,
568
00:46:27,340 --> 00:46:29,401
and I'm gonna show you somebody
that's sold out their artist
569
00:46:29,578 --> 00:46:31,285
and done a crappy job.
570
00:46:31,455 --> 00:46:36,245
So, I was quite proud of Henley's
reference of what he said.
571
00:46:36,419 --> 00:46:39,957
It was more or less, for me,
a validation of a job well done.
572
00:46:40,172 --> 00:46:44,166
A lot of my job was trying to keep
the band from breaking up.
573
00:46:44,343 --> 00:46:45,424
In the '70s,
574
00:46:45,594 --> 00:46:47,926
we formed a corporation
called Eagles, Limited.
575
00:46:48,970 --> 00:46:50,930
And that was all-for-one
and one-for-all.
576
00:46:51,100 --> 00:46:53,467
Well, it wasn't
the three musketeers.
577
00:46:53,644 --> 00:46:55,760
As our friend J.D. Souther
used to say,
578
00:46:55,938 --> 00:46:58,646
"Time passes, things change."
579
00:46:58,816 --> 00:47:00,560
In talking with Irving
580
00:47:00,234 --> 00:47:03,101
about putting the Eagles
back together in 1994,
581
00:47:03,279 --> 00:47:05,111
I said, "Irving, I'm not gonna do it
582
00:47:05,281 --> 00:47:07,864
unless Don and I make more money
than the other guys."
583
00:47:09,368 --> 00:47:11,860
"We're the only guys who have
done anything career-wise
584
00:47:12,380 --> 00:47:13,654
in the last 14 years.
585
00:47:13,831 --> 00:47:16,949
We're the guys that have kept
the Eagles' name alive on radio,
586
00:47:17,126 --> 00:47:18,958
television, and in concert halls."
587
00:47:19,128 --> 00:47:21,850
So we came up with a deal
588
00:47:21,255 --> 00:47:24,430
that I was happy with,
and Don was happy with,
589
00:47:24,216 --> 00:47:27,129
Timothy was happy with,
Joe was happy with,
590
00:47:27,303 --> 00:47:29,440
and Don Felder was not happy with.
591
00:47:29,221 --> 00:47:31,530
And I called
Felder's representative.
592
00:47:31,223 --> 00:47:33,430
And I said, "Hello, Barry.
This is Glenn Frey.
593
00:47:33,601 --> 00:47:36,844
I'm sorry you happen to represent
the only asshole in the band,
594
00:47:37,210 --> 00:47:38,386
but let me tell you something.
595
00:47:38,564 --> 00:47:41,852
You either sign this agreement
before the sun goes down today,
596
00:47:42,260 --> 00:47:43,983
or we're replacing Don Felder.
597
00:47:44,153 --> 00:47:45,268
That's the final deal.
598
00:47:45,446 --> 00:47:48,359
He signs by sunset,
or he's out of the fucking band."
599
00:47:48,532 --> 00:47:50,739
Hung UP-
600
00:47:50,910 --> 00:47:55,655
So, he signed the deal,
and we started out on the tour.
601
00:47:55,831 --> 00:47:59,740
I didn't sense a great deal
of camaraderie.
602
00:47:59,251 --> 00:48:00,616
You hardly saw anybody
603
00:48:00,795 --> 00:48:04,254
if it wasn't walking on the plane
or walking onto the stage.
604
00:48:04,423 --> 00:48:06,664
Everyone thought,
"Well, if we don't get together,
605
00:48:06,842 --> 00:48:08,424
we won't have problems."
606
00:48:08,594 --> 00:48:11,600
And I think instead of being able
to sit down and have a beer
607
00:48:11,180 --> 00:48:14,923
and talk about stuff and renew
a relationship with everyone,
608
00:48:15,101 --> 00:48:17,559
that independent isolation
609
00:48:17,728 --> 00:48:22,268
really didn't add the comfort
necessary to make it work.
610
00:48:22,441 --> 00:48:26,776
Don Felder was
never, ever satisfied,
611
00:48:26,946 --> 00:48:28,653
never, ever happy.
612
00:48:30,950 --> 00:48:33,783
A rock band
is not a perfect democracy.
613
00:48:33,953 --> 00:48:35,409
It's more like a sports team.
614
00:48:35,579 --> 00:48:37,991
No one can do anything
without the other guys,
615
00:48:38,165 --> 00:48:41,578
but everybody doesn't get to touch
the ball all the time.
616
00:48:42,294 --> 00:48:43,830
Time went on, and time went on,
617
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,962
and Fewer became
more and more unhappy.
618
00:48:47,133 --> 00:48:49,591
Couldn't appreciate the amount
of money he was making,
619
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,594
more concerned about
how much money I was making.
620
00:48:58,310 --> 00:49:00,722
If Don Felder really thought
about it,
621
00:49:00,896 --> 00:49:03,934
it really was he wanted it to be
a"band"band
622
00:49:04,108 --> 00:49:06,145
in the purest sense of the words,
623
00:49:06,318 --> 00:49:08,184
you know, we're all gonna get
equal songwriting,
624
00:49:08,362 --> 00:49:09,978
singing, expression stuff,
625
00:49:10,156 --> 00:49:12,523
and this was not a hippie commune.
626
00:49:12,700 --> 00:49:14,236
You know, and everything for them
627
00:49:14,410 --> 00:49:16,697
really goes back
to those two words -- song power.
628
00:49:18,831 --> 00:49:21,414
We finally made the decision
629
00:49:21,584 --> 00:49:24,201
that we won't be working
with him anymore.
630
00:49:24,378 --> 00:49:25,743
It just broke my heart.
631
00:49:26,672 --> 00:49:29,130
It's not just playing with Joe.
632
00:49:29,300 --> 00:49:31,712
I missed these guys.
633
00:49:31,886 --> 00:49:35,345
But I really missed the friendship
and the music.
634
00:49:38,100 --> 00:49:39,590
Okay.
635
00:49:39,768 --> 00:49:40,599
Strong.
636
00:49:40,769 --> 00:49:42,476
Good. Good, good, good.
Good shot.
637
00:49:42,646 --> 00:49:44,933
Glenn and I, when it comes time
to make band decisions,
638
00:49:45,107 --> 00:49:46,893
usually stick together.
639
00:49:47,670 --> 00:49:50,935
It's difficult for four or five people
to have an equal say.
640
00:49:51,113 --> 00:49:54,231
Here we are 40 years later,
and we're doing okay.
641
00:49:54,450 --> 00:49:58,340
We're one of the few bands
that can say that.
642
00:49:58,204 --> 00:50:00,662
The novelty of the Eagles
being back together
643
00:50:00,831 --> 00:50:02,413
and those few new songs
that we had
644
00:50:02,583 --> 00:50:04,699
on the "Hell Freezes Over" album
is one thing.
645
00:50:04,877 --> 00:50:07,494
But we needed to make a record.
646
00:50:09,715 --> 00:50:12,628
Considering that we haven't made
a record in so long,
647
00:50:12,801 --> 00:50:17,887
we spent a good two and a half years
making "Long Road Out of Eden."
648
00:50:18,570 --> 00:50:21,220
We finally figured out that
we just needed to do what we do.
649
00:50:21,393 --> 00:50:23,634
This really goes back
to the essence of what we do best,
650
00:50:23,812 --> 00:50:25,177
which is singing and songwriting.
651
00:50:25,356 --> 00:50:27,188
A lot of harmony singing
on this album.
652
00:50:38,994 --> 00:50:42,658
Big tragedies like that
make you think, as a parent,
653
00:50:42,831 --> 00:50:44,913
what kind of world is coming up?
654
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:46,245
What's gonna happen next?
655
00:50:46,418 --> 00:50:48,785
What's the world gonna be like
when my kids are grown?
656
00:50:50,965 --> 00:50:54,754
After September 11th,
our immediate visceral reaction,
657
00:50:54,927 --> 00:50:57,840
our gut reaction,
resulted in "Hole in the World."
658
00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:07,595
The Eagles have written and sung
659
00:51:07,773 --> 00:51:09,480
plenty of love songs
over the years,
660
00:51:09,650 --> 00:51:11,106
but we've also written and sung
661
00:51:11,277 --> 00:51:14,565
songs that have to do with
what's going on in the wider world.
662
00:51:14,738 --> 00:51:16,945
We've never shied away
from social commentary.
663
00:51:17,116 --> 00:51:18,857
We think it's part
of a rich tradition
664
00:51:19,340 --> 00:51:21,116
that dates all the way
back to medieval times.
665
00:51:21,287 --> 00:51:23,995
And so we still engage in it.
666
00:51:46,645 --> 00:51:48,602
The writings and the ideas
667
00:51:48,772 --> 00:51:51,264
of Henry David Thoreau
and Ralph Waldo Emerson
668
00:51:51,442 --> 00:51:52,648
had a huge impact on me.
669
00:51:52,818 --> 00:51:55,731
They got me through
some very difficult times in my life,
670
00:51:55,904 --> 00:51:58,271
one being when my father
was stricken with heart disease,
671
00:51:58,449 --> 00:52:02,363
and provided a lot
of spiritual support for me.
672
00:52:02,536 --> 00:52:03,776
When I found out in 1980
673
00:52:03,954 --> 00:52:06,446
that part of Walden
was going to be destroyed
674
00:52:06,624 --> 00:52:07,955
by commercial development,
675
00:52:08,125 --> 00:52:11,914
I decided that was something
I needed to help fight.
676
00:52:12,870 --> 00:52:15,375
So I ended up founding
the Walden Woods Project.
677
00:52:15,549 --> 00:52:19,634
And we are in our 27th year now,
and we've accomplished a great deal.
678
00:52:19,803 --> 00:52:22,465
It's been one of the most rewarding
things that I've ever done.
679
00:52:33,250 --> 00:52:35,517
The lyrics to that song
were originally a poem
680
00:52:35,694 --> 00:52:38,982
written by a great American poet
named John Hollander.
681
00:52:55,881 --> 00:52:58,794
Don had this title,
"Long Road Out of Eden."
682
00:52:58,967 --> 00:53:01,880
Timothy goes over,
and he picks up an acoustic guitar.
683
00:53:02,540 --> 00:53:03,169
And I go over to the keyboards
684
00:53:03,347 --> 00:53:07,900
and Joe grabs a guitar
and Don goes on the drums.
685
00:53:07,267 --> 00:53:10,225
And we start making up
this sort of musical story
686
00:53:10,396 --> 00:53:12,387
called "Long Road Out of Eden,"
687
00:53:12,564 --> 00:53:15,306
a story of, really, the war in Iraq.
688
00:53:25,744 --> 00:53:27,576
And it was, like, the last resort.
689
00:53:27,746 --> 00:53:32,161
It was another opus,
another David Lean movie.
690
00:53:40,884 --> 00:53:42,249
We finally got through,
691
00:53:42,428 --> 00:53:44,419
and we finally made
"Long Road Out of Eden."
692
00:53:44,596 --> 00:53:46,553
And we didn't give it
to a record company.
693
00:53:46,724 --> 00:53:48,510
We made a deal with Walmart.
694
00:53:48,684 --> 00:53:53,190
This was the first major artist
to do a direct-to-retail release
695
00:53:53,188 --> 00:53:55,225
and bypass
the major record companies.
696
00:53:55,399 --> 00:53:56,935
It was phenomenally successful.
697
00:53:57,109 --> 00:53:58,645
The album entered at number one.
698
00:53:58,819 --> 00:54:01,260
It gave, I think,
the whole industry hope
699
00:54:01,196 --> 00:54:04,439
that it could find a new
and different way to reach its fans.
700
00:54:04,616 --> 00:54:06,720
They're becoming
a much greener company,
701
00:54:06,243 --> 00:54:07,529
and that was important to me.
702
00:54:07,703 --> 00:54:10,445
And the other good thing was that
our fans got 20 songs for 12 bucks.
703
00:54:10,622 --> 00:54:11,953
It was basically a double album,
704
00:54:12,124 --> 00:54:14,350
and they weren't charged double
for it.
705
00:54:17,296 --> 00:54:19,162
Don said,
"I got a title for a song --
706
00:54:19,339 --> 00:54:21,125
'Busy Being Fabulous."'
707
00:54:21,300 --> 00:54:23,382
And I thought,
"What a great title."
708
00:54:30,809 --> 00:54:31,890
And then Don wrote,
709
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:33,971
"'Don't wait up for me tonight,'
that was all she wrote."
710
00:54:40,152 --> 00:54:41,984
And then we were off on the story.
711
00:54:53,457 --> 00:54:54,947
"Busy Being Fabulous,"
712
00:54:55,125 --> 00:54:57,708
Don and Glenn had gotten it
to a certain state,
713
00:54:57,878 --> 00:55:00,210
and I came up with some stuff
for the bridge
714
00:55:00,380 --> 00:55:02,166
and tweaked what already existed.
715
00:55:02,341 --> 00:55:05,830
I was very involved
in the "Long Road" record.
716
00:55:05,260 --> 00:55:08,200
I've always been a lot happier
getting into the entire project,
717
00:55:08,180 --> 00:55:10,592
arranging stuff, producing the stuff,
co-writing the stuff.
718
00:55:11,475 --> 00:55:15,139
Like, "Waiting in the Weeds"
and "Business As Usual"
719
00:55:15,312 --> 00:55:18,100
were co-writes with Don.
720
00:55:18,273 --> 00:55:22,767
Getting Steuart Smith in the band
was a real shot in the arm.
721
00:55:22,945 --> 00:55:24,982
He's such a terrific musician.
722
00:55:31,370 --> 00:55:32,531
It's a great solo.
723
00:55:32,704 --> 00:55:34,570
It's like stepping
into a space suit.
724
00:55:36,166 --> 00:55:39,454
It is strange
to be playing that song.
725
00:55:39,711 --> 00:55:43,830
The reaction is terrific,
and you bask in that excitement.
726
00:55:44,700 --> 00:55:45,623
But I didn't write it.
727
00:55:51,557 --> 00:55:54,265
I'm one part hired gun,
but also one part collaborator.
728
00:55:54,434 --> 00:55:55,890
I'm one of the guitar players.
729
00:55:56,770 --> 00:55:59,637
But I'm not an Eagle.
730
00:55:59,815 --> 00:56:01,476
I don't know what it's like
to be one of those guys.
731
00:56:01,650 --> 00:56:03,561
...3, 4.
732
00:56:06,113 --> 00:56:08,605
My kids were looking
on the Internet,
733
00:56:08,782 --> 00:56:13,260
and they found this show
that the Eagles had done in 1974.
734
00:56:18,792 --> 00:56:20,408
I was in my office watching TV,
735
00:56:20,586 --> 00:56:22,953
and my kids come in and say,
"Hey, Dad, come here.
736
00:56:23,130 --> 00:56:24,746
You got to take a look
at your hair."
737
00:56:24,923 --> 00:56:27,210
And one of the songs
was "How Long."
738
00:56:43,692 --> 00:56:45,774
"How Long" was
from my first solo album.
739
00:56:45,944 --> 00:56:48,151
They found that,
'cause Cindy saw it on YouTube
740
00:56:48,322 --> 00:56:49,778
and said, "Glenn, what's this?"
741
00:56:49,948 --> 00:56:51,985
And he said,
"Oh, it's a song of J.D.'s."
742
00:56:52,159 --> 00:56:54,321
She said,
"Well, you didn't cut it, did you?"
743
00:57:06,590 --> 00:57:10,584
J.D. wanted it on his solo album,
so we never recorded it.
744
00:57:10,761 --> 00:57:13,253
My wife said, "Hey, that sounds
like a hit Eagles song."
745
00:57:46,755 --> 00:57:48,462
They are the American band.
746
00:57:48,632 --> 00:57:52,170
Yeah, they pretty much encompassed
the '70s, didn't they?
747
00:57:52,344 --> 00:57:53,675
And took it all in.
748
00:57:53,845 --> 00:57:56,837
That's a long time to still have
a musical impact,
749
00:57:57,150 --> 00:58:01,350
and it's due
to this incredibly crisp, tight,
750
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,682
extraordinarily good
record-making band
751
00:58:03,855 --> 00:58:05,812
and the presence of good songs.
752
00:58:05,983 --> 00:58:08,270
But it's also now taken on
this other thing, too,
753
00:58:08,443 --> 00:58:12,357
where it's everybody through the band
wants to remember a '70s
754
00:58:12,531 --> 00:58:14,363
that they may
or may not have had.
755
00:58:39,975 --> 00:58:42,387
This band could go play stadiums
all over the country,
756
00:58:42,561 --> 00:58:46,771
and people know these songs
so intimately.
757
00:58:51,987 --> 00:58:53,569
They last.
758
00:58:53,739 --> 00:58:55,104
The songs last.
759
00:58:56,992 --> 00:58:59,575
I have one small plaque on my wall.
760
00:58:59,745 --> 00:59:01,361
It says, "Presented to the Eagles
761
00:59:01,538 --> 00:59:05,247
to commemorate the best-selling
album of the 20th century
762
00:59:05,417 --> 00:59:08,535
with sales in excess
of 26 million units."
763
00:59:08,754 --> 00:59:12,998
That century's gone,
so nobody's gonna top that.
764
00:59:15,343 --> 00:59:17,334
What's it like to be an Eagle now?
765
00:59:17,512 --> 00:59:18,923
It's just part of my life.
766
00:59:19,970 --> 01:58:39,898
I do normal things.
767
00:59:20,980 --> 00:59:21,805
I go to the market,
768
00:59:21,975 --> 00:59:25,130
and once in a while,
somebody comes up to me.
769
00:59:25,187 --> 00:59:27,394
I don't walk around being an Eagle.
770
00:59:27,564 --> 00:59:30,352
I'm an Eagle when it's time
for me to be.
771
00:59:30,567 --> 00:59:33,980
I made sure the dishes were done
before you guys came today.
772
00:59:34,154 --> 00:59:35,986
You know?
773
01:00:35,799 --> 01:00:39,800
I love everybody in the band
like a brother.
774
01:00:39,177 --> 01:00:44,593
To be part of a real band,
775
01:00:44,766 --> 01:00:45,847
a real band,
776
01:00:46,170 --> 01:00:51,729
is something that not all musicians
get to do in their life.
777
01:00:51,898 --> 01:00:57,940
And I'm real lucky to have
that chapter in my book.
778
01:01:04,286 --> 01:01:06,618
Rock 'n' roll saved my life.
779
01:01:06,788 --> 01:01:09,746
It changed my life tremendously.
780
01:01:09,916 --> 01:01:15,200
And as Mick Jagger
so famously and eloquently said,
781
01:01:15,172 --> 01:01:18,130
"it's only rock 'n' roll,
but I like it."
782
01:01:18,300 --> 01:01:19,586
I think that one of the reasons
783
01:01:19,759 --> 01:01:21,341
that Glenn and I
wanted to write songs
784
01:01:21,511 --> 01:01:24,480
is because rock 'n' roll music
got us through junior high
785
01:01:24,222 --> 01:01:25,132
and through high school
786
01:01:25,348 --> 01:01:27,214
and those difficult times
787
01:01:27,392 --> 01:01:28,632
when you're searching
for your identity
788
01:01:28,810 --> 01:01:32,474
and wondering who the heck you are,
trying to get girls to notice you,
789
01:01:32,647 --> 01:01:34,580
and wondering
why the football players
790
01:01:34,232 --> 01:01:36,348
are doing so much better
than you are.
791
01:01:36,943 --> 01:01:38,308
At the end of the day,
792
01:01:38,486 --> 01:01:42,354
it was and still is
about the music.
793
01:01:47,871 --> 01:01:50,738
I regret that I didn't handle
some of the adversity
794
01:01:50,916 --> 01:01:53,658
that the Eagles faced
in the late '70s better.
795
01:01:53,835 --> 01:01:55,200
Fortunately, for me,
796
01:01:55,378 --> 01:01:58,166
I've had another chance
to be the leader of the Eagles,
797
01:01:58,340 --> 01:02:01,583
another chance
to be Don's partner
798
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,969
and do this work again
and play this music.
799
01:02:05,138 --> 01:02:08,631
And in this second run,
I think I've done a pretty good job
800
01:02:08,808 --> 01:02:12,893
of keeping the peace
and keep the band together,
801
01:02:13,630 --> 01:02:14,849
keep everybody happy.
802
01:02:15,230 --> 01:02:18,812
So here we are, still doing it.
803
01:02:35,627 --> 01:02:37,789
Thank you.
804
01:02:43,176 --> 01:02:45,417
That's it! That's it!
805
01:02:47,305 --> 01:02:49,262
'Bye-bye.
'Bye-bye.
806
01:02:50,350 --> 01:02:52,591
We wanted longevity.
807
01:02:52,769 --> 01:02:55,136
It wasn't a hobby for us.
It wasn't a game.
808
01:02:55,313 --> 01:02:57,270
It wasn't a pleasant diversion.
809
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,351
It was a life.
810
01:02:59,526 --> 01:03:01,437
It was a calling.
It was a career.
811
01:03:01,611 --> 01:03:03,220
It was worth it.
812
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,658
We went to China last year.
813
01:03:09,828 --> 01:03:12,741
We're still breaking new ground
40 years later.
814
01:03:14,416 --> 01:03:15,497
Back in the late '70s,
815
01:03:15,667 --> 01:03:18,625
Neil Young sang a song
about the emerging punk ethic.
816
01:03:18,795 --> 01:03:20,627
And the pivotal line
in that song was:
817
01:03:20,797 --> 01:03:23,400
"it's better to burn out
than it is to rust."
818
01:03:23,174 --> 01:03:25,165
And I'm not sure
that even Neil, himself,
819
01:03:25,343 --> 01:03:26,674
subscribed to that sentiment,
820
01:03:26,845 --> 01:03:28,586
but I don't see rust as a bad thing.
821
01:03:28,763 --> 01:03:31,846
I have an old 1962
John Deere tractor
822
01:03:32,170 --> 01:03:35,635
that's covered with rust,
but it runs like a top.
823
01:03:35,812 --> 01:03:38,304
You know, the inner workings
are just fine.
824
01:03:52,746 --> 01:03:55,158
To me, that rust symbolizes
all the miles driven
825
01:03:55,332 --> 01:04:00,122
and all the good work done
and all the experiences gained.
826
01:04:21,232 --> 01:04:24,315
From where I sit,
the rust looks pretty good.
827
01:05:03,358 --> 01:05:04,848
When somebody is around 40 years,
828
01:05:05,260 --> 01:05:07,688
it means they've got something,
something that people want.
829
01:05:07,862 --> 01:05:08,567
And the Eagles have that.
830
01:05:08,738 --> 01:05:11,446
To me, the Eagles
really expressed a mood.
831
01:05:11,616 --> 01:05:13,653
California was the place of dreams.
832
01:05:13,827 --> 01:05:16,194
It was a time
of limitless possibilities.
833
01:05:16,371 --> 01:05:19,409
I think they were a defining moment
834
01:05:19,582 --> 01:05:21,368
in the rock-'n'-roll world
thatllove.
835
01:05:21,543 --> 01:05:24,100
You couldn't really love
the Eagles music
836
01:05:24,170 --> 01:05:26,753
and be an Eagles fan
and actually know them
837
01:05:26,923 --> 01:05:28,630
and not aspire
to greatness yourself.
838
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:30,461
I'm not really into legacies.
839
01:05:30,635 --> 01:05:32,376
People talk to me,
"What's your legacy?"
840
01:05:32,554 --> 01:05:33,840
I'm here now.
841
01:05:34,130 --> 01:05:36,721
I'm doing what I want to do,
842
01:05:36,891 --> 01:05:38,723
and I'm trying to make stuff happen.
843
01:05:38,893 --> 01:05:40,304
I see the Eagles in the same way.
844
01:05:40,478 --> 01:05:42,600
They're not in the '70s.
845
01:05:42,230 --> 01:05:45,598
They're in 2012 and 2013.
846
01:05:45,775 --> 01:05:49,234
And whatever they're doing now
artistically, that's what's important.
63462
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